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The State of the Cannabis Industry with Leafly's Bruce Barcott

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47:26 min | 8 months ago

The State of the Cannabis Industry with Leafly's Bruce Barcott

"We are pro. Cannabis media. Hi Ruin welcome to a very special edition of we'd talk now I'm Jimmy Young the founder of cannabis media and I'm in the founder of cannabis dot net and we are very happy to be joined by Bruce Barkat whose the editor of lethally DOT com. He's also the author of a very popular book called lead the People Bruce Thank you so much for joining us tonight out in the great northwest of Washington. State House it. How is it out there? is fantastic. Thanks for having me guys. Welcome to my mobile office This is working in the pandemic. I- emergency came up with my kids today. So I am I'm set a ready to go got good strong, WIFI going and it's a beautiful day out here. It's must be in the mid seventies and sunny. So we're all we're all good. Maybe the place to be in the United States with all the different humidity and heat that's been plaguing the United States during this era of climate change. But let's let's jump right into the cannabis conversation. First of all I wanNA give you Kudos I have this philosophy in policy that I only interview authors if I read their books so I got your book I read it and I couldn't put it down I really enjoyed it and and what's amazing to me about that book Bruce Is it was written five years ago. Have we made some progress in five years or what? We have made amazing progress. A funny thing is it came out. Out Almost, eight years since I started it and when I started the book, this was twenty, early, two, thousand, thirteen and. Things were still very shaky. I mean Colorado and Washington State had just passed. Don't use legalization and we weren't even sure if that was going to be happening if. Ads were going to allow the states to roll this out and try it fortunately they did it's been a wild success and. Now, we're we're sitting here with eleven states with legal recreational cannabis plus Washington DC We're looking at possibly adding a few more This fall was November election, and honestly when I started writing that book, one of the reasons I wrote the book was I. was. I really. Didn't have a dog in the hunt like I. I was very much on the line in terms of voting for legalization, and when we passed the measure as a writer, I was really curious to see what happens like was this going to be something? We're very proud of in twenty years or was this sort of going to be an embarrassing flop and? fortunately, it's been not a flop at all and I'm sitting here. Now you know an editor. and very proud to be a part of this this change in history. You brought it up, Bruce that November the election, where do you stay in again, I'll throw it out there your prediction on federal legalization. Interesting points brought up today by our by Senator Markey on a show saying if the Democrats get the House and the Senate bill legalize even if Biden tries to veto, give me your prediction on federal legalisation. I think. I think the votes are there in the house like that's not a question The question is the Senate the SENATE TENDS TO BE A. Much older generation and I think one of the things that we've learned over the years with cannabis on cannabis tissues and cannabis legalisation is that there's a certain amount of split between the Democrats and the Republicans Democrats tend to favor legalization Republicans tend to not. But honestly, it really is one of the few actual bi partisan issues and we've seen you know there are a number of Democrats really don't like legalization and I think you know Biden is. One of them but there are very powerful senator still in positions of power who are Democrats, senator, Dianne Feinstein of of California's one that comes to mind who has just been a even though her state has really progressed over the years. She really she sold her hold her nose and kind of allows allows us how maybe it's OK California's legalized So think the Senate will be a topper South L. I actually believe that if If the two houses can pass a legalization measure that Biden will sign it, he won't like it but I think he will sign it. I don't see the the reasoning for him to veto it. Other than sort of like a personal dislike and like come on that's that's that's Berry nineteen, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, nine, hundred, ninety. So I'm I'm hoping he can get over that. Is Trump or by in better for cannabis starting in twenty twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty, one if you just had to pick up somebody I. Think. Yeah honestly. In the year two thousand, twenty I don't think it's any equipment I think Biden is much much much better for cannabis and for progress in the movement I think four years ago it was a legitimate question. As to whether trump or Hillary Clinton just on the issue of cannabis was going to be. Better and allow more progress to happened because of the Hillary Clinton was very much a part of that old line mainstream democratic, party, that that tended to They found success in the nineties by being tough on crime, and that meant, you know moving forward and pushing the the the notorious crime bill and these sorts of measures and Hillary was not a big fan of legalization trump on the other hand back in two thousand sixteen. As with so many issues he was vague very cagey of. With the medical I don't like the the the the recreational. As we've seen over the past three and a half years. There've been so many instances where his administration actually took a really strong steps to undermine legalization with Jeff sessions rescinding the call memo. We've seen we've seen recently this whole bizarre thing with with attorney general bar going after like these small time. that. That was that was nuts anyway, just stuff like that has been going on. I would read I. Think the only thing I say that exact same answer to people am my only but in there would be. At Least Hillary was a Democrat and Bernie would've been somewhere in her cabinet and we might have got progress it. Of course. No, one saw jeff sessions coming. Right. One hundred percent of what you said accepted Lee's Bernie would have been a higher level pushing buttons but we'd never got there. Hey I gotta I gotTA interrupt for second be back to something you said because it definitely kind of lit a fire under me. You said that the Democrats were using that tough on crime mantra. Haven't we now seen what tough on crime really means isn't that just bailed racism isn't that what those whole black lives matter thing is about the law enforcement people that were going to be tough on crime were targeting people of color because it was easy to stop them, Frisk them and Ooh look there actually carrying a little joint let's foam in jail for their lives. Yes. Absolutely. I mean that's that's very clear. I. Think you know. We've seen a number of layers of the onion being peeled back, right like one of the obvious layers is with the introduction of smartphones and cameras in all of our pocket, and now we actually see the police brutality that is is basically practiced upon people of color especially, specifically black people in America. So we see that with our eyes and I think with cannabis one of the real points of data that we got was was. Was a few years ago with the at really landmark ACLU report that came out and showed that lacked people were arrested for cannabis at four times. The rate of white people issue average nationwide, even though use and consumption of cannabis was essentially the same between black people white people have you dive into that report some of the some states and counties are ridiculous. It's like ten times as much twelve times as much. And I think for for people like me and many others that was. Wild that's that's really a shocking statistic that I can't be argued away and I think. For? Most people? Who are trying to learn and understand what's going on today and really doing a lot of reflection and thinking. About the the tough on crime deal in the nineties was just has been a disaster. The problem is I think that that for a person like Biden. He's been pretty comfortable since the ninety s his Sin Sita's Mary comfortable. This challenge there and he really hasn't had to think about cannabis in the way that you know like the three of us and many of your your your viewers and listeners. Have thought about it and so it's GonNa, take some time to move him along I. Think there are people who are were were actively doing that right now we need. We need to take those steps I, think many of us took over the last years we take him we need him to take those steps quickly. Absolutely You know the article that you posted on June second really hit home for me Bruce and it was one of the reasons why I wanted to talk with you. I was so moved by it was I keep reading it and saying yeah. Yeah. This guy gets it. This guy understands it at here we are in a historic time. Did I ever think in a million years that cannabis and race relations would actually be tied together in a progressive movement and it's happening right in front of us with an opportunity. Now for a new industry to actually help restore some sense of normalcy in our economy and in our lives I mean I can't believe I live to see this day. Let alone what might happen in a few months. I totally agree and one of the things that I try to do Both in person and in in social media, and in the things that are right right now is I have two kids You know once once eighteen and wants twenty one and they're very active in what's going on right now right and I'm the old guy and and we have a lot of great conversations about that and we had a great one a few weeks ago where we were talking about. are are the difference in our roles in what we could do affect change at a said look you know one of the greatest things if you guys want to do it is go out by all means. Go protests raise a fuss in the streets. But no for me. I'm in a position like as enter leafy right now, I'm one of the guys coup in a way you're protesting against like those signs are meant for me. I need to I need to change my practices and really take give more thought to things like. Where am I drawing my writing pool from who the voices that are speaking on leafy? Who Are we speaking to the assumptions that we're making and that ripple through the entire cannabis industry everything from Re, who's WHO's getting the licenses to open shops and grow facilities to WHO's being employed, and who's being locked out of the industry by some of the early laws where we kind of you know it was we made things too difficult for many people who have been formerly incarcerated to come into the industry that had essentially been built on on their backs, and so those are a lot of the things that were. I know I'm thinking about reflecting on right now and that is something that's that's happening company-wide lethally it's a I really been kind of proud of our company is is is taking this seriously. In. The future media and cannabis right now, his canvas dot net and are in the similar space and you guys fed layoffs and we'd mafs layoffs. Is, the future going to be at some point, the lease, the maps, the cannabis dot net, where we can process and water in create the revenue saved from a vertical integration whether we're shipping it or I always argue that media sites rate now the ugly stepchild. But as soon as that federal law changes and we become Cinderella because we're the top of every sales funnel will we can get a lead for an order for Because you're content ranked so well or a user can see up. is their thoughts that And of course, part of what would be your orders I guess would go with privateer till ray but is there a goal at some point to just sell weed? Oddly That I that I don't know. The honestly, like I'm a I, don't think there's a there's a plan for us to become a a retailer anytime anytime soon and you know we're we started out as being a wholly-owned subsidiary of of privateer holdings which also spun out and created children. We at this really have no connection to chill rain and raise up in. Canada. So that's that's like they're kind of our our long lost sibling like when they do all great, but it really doesn't have much effect on us. So in terms of media, it's it's it's fascinating I think right now we're in a position that is is is similar to so much other mainstream media where we're all trying to figure out how to produce good journalism, grow accurate information and. Draw paycheck like we're all trying to figure out the monetization game. Out Streets right here. You just pointed everyone on the creek. Her. Support and Support Him all right on right. But I. Don't know the here's the thing I think that there is an unknown in terms of what may happen when federal legalisation does come. What may happen in terms of the special niche that we all occupier right now and we occupy in part because everybody else's scared occupy it. Mainstream places are really scared. You know I mean I think you know a place like politico has done a really good job of hiring smart people and letting them just cover cannabis like another beach, but we still see I mean. The New York Times still covers. It s sort of like a giggle fast. It's like, Oh, it's still Kinda Kinda funny. What they're doing out with with cannabis and California you know and you know there's a story a about how edibles it sold really well, what a surprise it was not a surprise to the rest of us, right? So I think that there still is there still will be a place for media that. Handles cannabis in a serious way and doesn't just assume that everybody who consumes cannabis is a couch locks toner or people are dumb I mean. That's one of the things that I really have loved about this journey started seven eight years ago in writing about cannabis is the way in which it has completely undermined. So many of my assumptions and eroded a lot of this sort of judgmental bone, but I had my pocket. Hey, you know what I remember that part of the book, and if I remember correctly, it was a discussion with your spouse I believe is her name Clare. Yeah Yeah. So and at one point she said you are voting for this aren't you Bruce? Right. There's the couch. I had a really good a good friend a neighbor down the road who she was actually at the time a lawyer for the the local ACO you and the CEO of Washington was one of the primary drivers of legalization in in Washington state and. She really Kinda put it to me and she said, you know you're aren't GonNa vote you're GonNa vote for this right and like I don't know it's it's not my thang in. And she was one of the first to introduce me to the underlying issue which was and she literally said, look this is not about you nobody cares whether you like. Marijuana on or don't like marijuana this is a social justice issue. This is a civil rights issue. This is what you need to know about how this is used. Chew put hundreds of thousands of people of color in prison every year, and we we talked about the fact that. Still, any even today six, hundred, thousand people are arrested for this, which is just like. It blows my mind that that is still happening but. You. Know there are inequities even today in legal states. But there are inequities at least on such a smaller scale you know we've gone from arresting twelve thousand people every year in. Washington State to maybe hundred and twenty something like that. You know so. It was a big step but yeah, you're right. That was that was a big conversation for me back then. and. Then you went on with your whole journey as you experimented a tad and you were getting exposed to the culture if you will in Colorado as it was beginning I actually because of my own personal history I admit. I knew that Colorado and Washington state were at the forefront of legalization but I really wasn't into the advocacy of it until a few years ago when I started to talk to people from my podcast who were in this fight and I love some of the first hand. Observations that you had, as you went through being exposed to some of the culture in Colorado and I'm talking about some of the parties some of the various characters you met, you know what I'm saying. Yeah this was. This was one of the great joys of writing the book when I did. This was basically twenty, thirteen, twenty, fourteen in two, thousand fifteen was being able to just go out there and and sort of swimming in that wild. Atmosphere in Colorado and in Washington state you know here in. SEATTLE. I met up with a couple of folks who were. Essentially. Driving around the city all day looking for storefronts make a lease. For retail cannabis spot and there were so many Difficult legal issues to work through their but there were also just like. You know there's a certain amount of wheeling and dealing that was going at the time to have that and then you had also. This amazing exuberance that was being expressed everywhere from you know very serious conferences like drug policy alliance. You know they haven't conference every two years that it's just like an international drug reform conference and in some of the best legal minds in the world come together and gather there, and you know the first the first event after the passage legalization was like an explosion of joy. It was amazing and on the other side none is another part of the spectrum. You had a events like the Canvas Cup in Denver I think it was twenty fourteen it was the first year. After the retail stores opened and it was just it was an extravaganza I mean, it was like no show I've ever seen one of my favorite anecdotes from that. Weekend was there were there was a a subway and McDonalds right across the street from the where the event was being held in. DENVER. And the McDonalds literally ran out of meat like they had no more meet. The lines were out the door and by like two o'clock we've just put up sign like. Me Sorry. As, long as they had French fries 'cause the. Still. The best. Yeah. Yeah Yeah I WANNA go back to your article for second again, turn a little bit more serious and I think it was the final paragraph you talk about why it's on us being in the cannabis industry. And it is something that has been a common theme of both hurt myself why is the cannabis industry being held to such a high standard as far as a new industry trying to make it work? In a Capitalistic Society and I love how you kind of phrase this you said the answer's simple cannabis has a special responsibility because cannabis has a special history America laws constructed around this product but millions of black people in jail denying them jobs and housing and strip them of their right to vote and to pretend to pretend otherwise is to perpetuate America's four hundred year crime. I'm hearing this theme a lot now and I get chills thinking about the fact that only God, this could actually be the turning point in race relations in our country because you're hearing people I. Think it was this past last night NBC had a great discussion race and they brought in. A lot of the athletes who are playing golf at Lake Tahoe and Charles Barkley was there and some of the conversations that they talked about again. I've heard them before, but it does seem like it's different. Now, do you get a feeling that the movement that we're seeing now because perhaps of the eighteen and twenty, one year old in your house are taking part in it? Is it going to be a different end? I'm hope I hope I have great. Hope that it will be different end thing and I think it's a different ending. In part because. The private, right. Time. The time is right. The pressure is so overwhelming. I have a feeling like. For a number of people who have been trying to advocate for this whether it's within their own company or within their own city council or whatever situation they're in. The that. For a lot of people have had to kind of. Hold back a little bit because It's not it's not making money. It's not getting gaining votes affects the bottom line. was perceived to affect the bottom line in a negative way, and now that equation is flipped. I, think if you're not. Working on this actively right now, it will affect your bottom line and I hate to say that. But it it it. It's just this is America. It's capitalism. That's that's the system in which we operate and you see it in in very stark and clear terms when it comes to things like. You know take a look at the The Washington's football team right now. Now, he acted great name as. Ready. For many for many years, you know many years but when Fedex comes in and said, we're gonNA, Take Our name off the stadium. Things Change. And that I think I think in in smaller ways happening in a lot of different industries, a lot of different companies. and. As you say in cannabis, we have all known that this is a very special industry because it has a special history and it's a special history but we also have this amazing opportunity because we're creating. This system new, and we're creating the rules for each state. As we go along, we're creating these companies and we're creating different company cultures, and so it's it's so exciting. We don't have a decades of sort of built fiene cultural and historical systems that we have to kind of get in there and take part. You know we can really build from from the ground up in a lot of a lot of states and I think that's that's one of the reasons that that that kind of keeps me at least and keeps me excited about what we're doing is because. They're so often new states coming on and they have a chance to build and do a little better. Do a little better than the state that came before. You get to the point where these social equity and economic empowerment candidates don't just get trampled and they're not your heads like we're seeing in the high time steel has fallen apart with harvest held where a token se, your e applicant it's really a company behind them. Just they're putting them on the board or giving him forty nine or fifty one percent. How do we? How do we fix that? It's a tough. It's a tough issue because you know it is a, it's a it's a systemic issue. Right? We one of the things we've learned through canvas is that It's not just. You can't just solve these things by giving a certain number of licenses to people of color because you can give them a person who is very competent, very smart, a licensed, but if they don't have access to capital like. They can't go out. You know it's got. Two, hundred, thousand, all establish or front. So. There's those issues. One of the things that I really I'm watching closely and I have a lot of of optimism is about our. what these the I'm sorry. I'm blanking on the word now These organizations where people come in and incubators. Sorry. Onward incubators where folks are coming in entrepreneurs are coming in and they're. Both helped but they're helped by people who are already established in talk with them take their. Talents and knowledge and smarts that are already there and say, Hey, maybe okay. Let's talk about how to reach out to investors and investor wants to hear what they what they don't WanNa hear. If you have a lot of great growing experience. That's that's fantastic with their other aspects to this on a partner you with with this person here who can bring you along doing this it'd be like it'd be like putting me in charge of an entire magazine operation suits not like I can assign I can edit can get the get the guts tax photos together. You put me in charge of of AD sales. I don't know if we're GONNA make it right? Hey, you got a lot of layoffs lately so they. Looking. You know when you put a team together, you always try to put the players in the place that accentuate their strength and hide there. And I think that's what might be happening what I I guess the question the next question is a lot of the multi state operators that are out there. Are you finding they have a social conscience that they to give opportunities to others those who've been most active on the war on drugs, for instance, and help them along or is it strictly money grab at that level? It varies right as an indie and the industry one of the most disappointing. Stories from me of twenty, twenty has been the unraveling of men and to see that multi-state operator. Kind of just just. Implode before our eyes. Because, they were such a in part because there was such a face of the industry in so many places. But on the other hand I think of I have. I've always had a lot of great conversations and and I I feel a lot of good faith from an operator like a Chris Crane at forefront. Right and I think that there are a number of other people people who are. With the minority Cannabis Business, association folks there who are who are doing it the right way and and I think that the more we can elevate those folks and put them up as as sort of people who are putting best practices in place the more we can spread that that. Quality Knowledge and positive way of operating, and that's in a way. That's partly my job is to look at who were covering how're covering them. And let people know. WHO The people are in Colorado or Massachusetts, it's who are. Making it. Making a hostile contributions to the industry. You know especially, if they're other people of color and they're making a go. Check out how are they making? How are they making it? How can that be replicated in in other states? So and also we're looking at. We're looking at things like. What are the visuals were putting up on our website? You know are these all kind of? Soccer moms a lot of white people in very clean situations and e or do we need to have a much more diverse array of people so that we can essentially you can. You can't be it until you see it right and so that's one of the things that I've been working on reflecting on the last few weeks. I gotta ask you a question about the movement towards legalizing suicide and can that take away from the focus on actually moving towards federal legalization of. Cannabis. We've been talking a little bit about it internally and I said I don't want to go near it because there's so many issues related just to this plant and hemp. We haven't even talked about hemp yet and yet word now we're we're a lot of people are focusing on Civil Simon I don't I again I'm trying to to gauge what kind of interest there is on. That's A. Question that we have been editors that. We have been debating ourselves I think for the past two or three months or so I I, we had a small wave of cities passing legalization measures, and now we're looking at interesting measures especially in the state of Oregon coming up in November. And we have that internal conversation about look. We have limited resources at lethally where we're GONNA put them. Should we be covering this if so how? Know, we haven't done a lot of coverage of of hemp. Because I think that a lot of people who are interested in Hamp have other outlets. And I think we're actually. So we haven't covered a whole lot I. think we're actually coming down on the side of giving more coverage to Simon and those legalisation measures in part because for us it similar to cannabis in that, there's so little accurate information out there if we're going to be asking people to vote on these measures in November. We Wanna be a resource for them and say, Hey, look, this is what an actual like mushroom looks like here the effects it has. Here's what here's here are the various compounds that come out of of this. Plant are sorry fungus. and. That's something that we can be real real service. To our readers. So that's that's where we're at right now like we're not. Know turning over a website to it but that sort of specially has been to really dig in and speak truth and be as accurate as possible when talking about cannabis because there's so much misinformation out there we want to be the source just says, look, this is what we know. These are the studies say and also. Here's how it affects me. Here's how it affects different people because so many islets are afraid to do that. Doesn't that feed the Gateway Drug Mantra of the prohibitionists though. You, know. They'RE GONNA THEY'RE GONNA. They're gonNa beat the Gateway Drum. No matter what you do. I mean. The gateway fury has been disproven eight ways since Sunday. You. Know. So many studies have come out and said, no, you know if you WanNa talk about even the idea of a gateway drug, we're gonNA talk about alcohol and that's where that's where we start. Caffeine. Caffeine. Society nobody cares. Yeah. You're looking at right here. Yeah seriously I'm I I think that. Those those. Yeah. It's I'd rather give people clear information and let's You know the people who are prohibition us make whatever arguments they wanna make not worry about that so much. Version graphics on your site. So I have to ask you how is it going with the new strain guy designed because when people talk to me and say, you know give me a one word answer for these websites. I'll say we'd maps dispensary fight there they say legal straight guide. Ten years ago they indexed it they built out there the straight guide guys. So how's the transition to the new strain guy with the? Triangles, but it's probably octagon or. Art Yup? No, it's going. It's going great. We actually we we invested you know almost two years of research and design into that because we knew. You know both we got feedback from from people, but also knew from personal experience that a simple strain name was not enough, and then you know saying into custody of a hybrid was not enough and the more that we learned about. Scenes. And the An and the interactions and the entourage fact and ways at THC. Interacted one find a way to really reflect those elements visually. So that, you could say at a glance. Oh this much more. This is a heavy THC strain. Or this is much more of a CBD front strain So I it's it's worked really well, I mean I. I'm kind of pushing a her our marketing department to put out more t shirts with with with with full color strains on them and everything. I kinda want a quilt with all of the various new strains and everything on them. So it's been working out. It's been working out really well and I think it gives people so much more information about what they're buying and even so feel like we're still in the infancy of knowing what we're buying and the what effect it will have on us. Personally. So I gotta ask you we we brought up the subject of hemp, and in a few nights we're going to be talking to Bruce Lynton who just raised one hundred and fifty million dollars to create a fund that will acquire. Companies as you look into the future. which is going to be the bigger has the bigger upside is it going to be hemp and it's multiple uses or are we going to see? More microbrews style of cannabis strains out there where do you see the biggest growth? In this industry regarding other uses of the cannabis sativa plant. Of I think obviously. Ham has. Has a great great potential in terms of You know the the the the hog farm analogy you know using everything but the squeal right in terms of of being able to harvest and Paul value from every part of that plant. But. I really think that the more that states legalize and we move toward federal legalisation and the more that people who are unfamiliar with cannabis become a little bit more familiar with it and find the products that work for them and the sort of media delivery device. That works for them. I think that the long term value of cannabis an ingested substance is going to continue to grow I know that I mean. You know in the pandemic we've seen so many people learn so much more about and think about what they're putting into their bodies I know like personally my alcohol consumption has gone down I haven't I. Don't think I've smoked a joint since March, but my my edible consumption. Has Really has gone up, but it's not like I'm hitting edibles hard every night it's more like, Oh, I, found a I found a beverage that I. really like these legal beverages that that have one hundred milligrams and the last me a week or two. And then. I found a gummy that I really liked that if I take half of it at night, you know I really nice drift off to sleep but I sleep through the night and so they become a regular part of my. Routine and it's allowed me allowed me years ago to stop my ambien prescription Um for insomnia which I love I hated ambient. So I think the more poor people are able to to come along and. Engage without the fear in the stigma. The more that market will just will will tend to slowly slowly grow. You know I think in the early years I thought we we thought maybe there was going to be a big explosion with the soccer moms discovering cannabis and yeah, those folks have discovered it but everybody else too slowly discovering to and I think that's that's going to be good for everybody. One more thing about your book and I am not sure you remember this I'm sure the guy who? Had this book the Smart Approaches to Marijuana Guy Kevin Sadegh named Ellen. Habit whatever I you know what people like that I really don't spend a Lotta time making sure I get their names right Can you talk a little bit about what that was like going to that conference and then actually having dinner with? Yeah I mean I. You know again, I wanted to hear from people on all sides of this issue and I I came to them in good faith and WanNa really like dig into their dig into their arguments dig into their evidence dig into their data and I. Don't think that you know I don't think Kevin's a a bad guy I don't think he's low obliged figure or anything like that. I do but I do think that his evidence is. Too loose I think he's he's wrong in the arguments he's making and as more states legalize and we get more and more data back from the early states his arguments just are not holding up in terms of the great fears that people had initially about legalisation you know the other. So Kevin's got the the group US I. Think it's smart something about Marijuana Sam, right Yom, and then the other the other full. That's WHO's out there right now, Alex Berenson who had this book out a couple of years ago, and he's become a big Fox News commentator. He's kind of A. Co did corona virus truth now like weirdly I'd. I don't know what he's doing, but he his big argument was that there was a sort of secret massive outbreak of. Psychosis. Among people only Yankee because of cannabis legalisation and like the data's just not there, it simply is not there but he finds a ready audience in in folks like Fox News and others who WanNa hear a scare story and one of the things we're we've learned is that when things go well and problems don't occur. That's not so sexy in terms of you know the cable talk shows and that sort of thing. So it's it's much. It's much easier to get on and say the sky is falling people are running around stark raving mad than go on and say you know actually. Kinda quiet like things are going well. while. They're not going all now right now let's just say and I don't think. Do Jaded on that on so many fronts and I'm certainly hoping everybody in your world is safe and healthy and sane because I think it has all tried this whole experience has tried all of our patients. especially, parents of young children don't know how they're doing Kurt I. Don't know how you do it. It's it's always a challenge and hopefully don't get a chance to talk to bruce with this kind of Kobe. Change maybe dissipated. Hopefully, we have some changes in the. Front it'll be great to have you back on when that happens to kind of look back from this show what changed our predictions to host. Hopefully, he'd come back on the show in the future. Absolutely love it. It's been a real pleasure to talk with you guys. Thank you for having me. You Bet Bruce, and before we go I know that you're a sports fan right. Oh. Yeah. So you know there was a part of my life like thirty years of it where that's all I did that's all I care about. That's all I talked about I'm pretty sure at some point I heard you doubt that we will see a sixty game major league baseball season you still. leaning. In that direction still at this point. I wish you know look. Sixty Games is is still sixty sixty games of of of agony for Seattle, Mariners Fan, right. But No look within the right side you go. There you go I love baseball but. There are a lot of moving parts. There are twenty six players on a major league baseball roster that's probably expanded now. and. A lot guy is to kind of keep in keep contained. You know I mean I I. Have I have greater hopes that the NBA season can finish out and the hockey season, right? Baseball boy I I I don't know I mean it's. It's good luck. I'm I'm wishing well but I don't know that I would place money in A. You know. In baguettes on finishing out the whole baseball season and then I won't even talk about the NFL and also keep in mind two players in the NBA bubble have already snuck out so. Yeah, it's human nature. This is what's going to happen. I, have no idea if we're going to get to opening day, let alone a championship of world series of Stanley Cup an NBA championship and I don't I'm not very confident about the NFL at all. We think about. If you've played on sports teams. Ever. Team there's a lot of really great people but every game has a couple of wing nuts right? I mean. That's indeed we're all human. Okay. We have a wingnut. In our makeup, right? Yeah. Absolutely lay through Bruce. Thank you so much for joining my Kurt myself here on. We talk now and again don't be a stranger. You've got a place to stay in Massachusetts with two guys that we know our way around this The bay state pretty well. So you're welcome here any old time? Bent tastic. Thank you guys. It's been a real pleasure to talk with you. Let's do it again sometime you bet and that'll do it for we talk now. So for Bruce Barkat and Kurt Dalton I'm Jimmy Young remember it's a whole new world of weed out there use it responsibly thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. We talk now we talk news and in the weeds are all available in most major podcast distributors like I am spotify, Google play and our friends at Sealand s media, Dot Com and our flagship cannabis dot net. 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Off The Record: Joe Shreds the Powder on the Mountains

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20:39 min | Last month

Off The Record: Joe Shreds the Powder on the Mountains

"Lead three two one action against the record and we talk about. We want joe really wants to talk about snowboarding. Want to show you guys my footage from the instantly three sixty. Because i was snowboarding. And i was going really really fast and it was really really fun stuff. Three sixty three sixty camera. Cool figure harry. They figured it out already. I don't get it and a frigging three single company and stuff know what it is. Don't you know that the company was into three six. I don't know what he has a different cameras. And i look to the three sixty camp. Yeah it is no. I have a gopro sixty nine. It's called the gopro matt mack which it is it. He has instituted the red one. I looked like a gopro yet. Does actually so you can but yeah okay. So i've been snowboard deprived right. Even for the past. I found my lift ticket in my pocket. The last time we went as a trip but at the time and then continue. I look sick camera. Yeah the last time we went snowboarding and there was one time those three years ago. It was a jk big bear trip. Remember the last time. I went she. Yeah and before that it was like three to four years remember. We used to go like like every season me embarked like we would drive up an hour to appear the best. I don't. i never had a season pass. But i did the deals like can you share the powder. Now can yes. Are you good merck okay. I think it's relative real estate. Who jumps you just casually. Go down the whole thing i mean i do jumps and rails but i go down five times a mountain while i'm still trying to make my way down. I wouldn't be there. I'd be inside that you drink hot cocoa. That's the hot cocoa. But i'm like is there. They do have beers. You put hot cocoa. Oh hot you don't hot run not really remembered so this year will twenty twenty was a year. Like oh you know what i'm gonna do all the things that like. I wanted to do outdoorsy. Twenty one for people. This is upload. Yeah yeah no no but for twenty twenty. It was like it. Kinda worked out the whole lockdown right. Because it's like oh shit. I did like skating. I did like surfing. I did like all these activities. Why did i like go away from them. You know and then snowboarding. It's been like so long and we used to have so much fun doing that all the time and the deals back. Then we're crazy like it was like night-boarding was like twenty bucks. What's more so after sosa. So like after like four. Pm to like nine or something right just before the end it's like cheaper but it hurts more. It does positive sucks flights cheaper. It's it's slush year and then so it gets the snow to be there. Yeah during the noon gets melted so it gets slushy hauled up until like six or seven then it re freezes so now. You're like pretty much snowboarding on ice rink. And then sometimes that's when the blizzard start to come back. So that's when you hit in the face and the is going really feel about major tag because if you go in the middle of the day it's you've versus kids you're gonna fucking win going nighttime awesome the teenagers. The some of the leading dolts loan adults. Then you're going to get more wrecked d- but if you learned in southern california you you're learning in the shittiest conditions of snow because it's manmade snow melted and all this stuff from big bear amendment. Yeah most of it is unless it actually rains and snows up there which is rare in la and even if it does you know. Our winters are like in the daytime. It's seventy degrees and it melts right. So then they cover the whole town with manmade snow list real snow. Big bear is much better than mountain high because they actually get their own snow but then they still have to put a fresh layer of snow if they don't get On the mountain towns covered in like old snow. That's like frozen and shit and says the towel in town of snow that's real snow but on the slopes they have to put new ones and they have snow machines. Just people fucking with the tune so they have to keep it going and just all these things mountain high. It's usually you go there and there's little snow anywhere and then there's no only on the slopes big bears generally snow in the town already so it's like it doesn't fully melt because it's cold enough to where it's not like here in the valley or whatever word culture like what's like the downtime and snowboard culture summer no are on the slopes. And you're done for the day. What happens afterwards. I think most people just go okay or like sleep feel. Maybe there's nothing to do there. Just leave power party. That sounds cool. Saint joe's michael i drink. I can't do the drive just up the mountain itself. I get so carsick turns. Yeah attorney tried to drive. 'cause you get carsick drive is better. Just don't translate who driving. What's so scary. Dude it's the scariest fucking writer your life. Sometimes when are we going. Triple bart talks to us. He doesn't look in the mirror. He drives into oncoming traffic. And he's like you know what i mean you turn around and he's making eye contact with you and it's like hawk. He's like what's wrong with this guy. Just shut my travel. I'm like i'm not talking. I don't care if you're trying to make conversation panicking so much. So i was like drive traffic like the horrors loretta robbery. I've never been the call when he crashed. so car. driver avoids it. Good wing crashes create that you avoid like screaming and that's what avoids the crash. Exactly it's a team sport. I do always used to say about how like like you're leaving parking lot and there's cars coming borrow with last second and then go you no toy. Been the car. I don't every single time you wait for the car to get right then you cut them off anytime to make turn in any situation. He's always on the curve. Always truck he just wants to wheels. Yeah anyways this winter. I was like this winter. Fucking go and like do as much fucking snowboarding as i ever can possible right and then actually we were supposed to do set off the season together. And that's when barkat the fucking ronas that will supposed to go day. You wear riding. We were on top of the slope. Like oh shit barkat. What can wrote a dude and we're all like no. We got tested after that but dow was a crazy kickoff. Because that's when we started brainstorming of like away we can go other places. We should go back to my hometown. We have in vermont. New jersey all new hampshire. There's like a ski resort every ten minutes. Not even exaggerating. Like if you see the map. I showed bar a screenshot of it right. Within out one hour drive there was like twenty different ski resorts around too so it was like all right this fucking winner. Let's do it because it's like an all of them yet to get good. I get the right. At least it doesn't hurt to fall there. I feel it doesn't yeah and that's all we did during this winter. It was fucking dope. Shit ever ever done any of that like you went snowboarding with us. No no never we. We had the big richer before my time. Those was the other girlfriend known three years ago you went there. David fell down the stairs. No what we had no so yes. I was at the trip. But that first day casey and i went there always showed up late august. I argue with other gophers. You were choosing goski really thought you meant the other trip that you guys did right before i started doing. Yeah so I think those isaac related. He has more year but that that was a lot of people's first time writing. Yeah allen dam. Would those three years ago. That's just crazy. How much time is when you. I remember that could've sworn i wasn't around talks. Join you guys get adrenaline doing things like that. Because you did snowboarding stuff right. You're that gives me a gentleman. Chris suck Frustration really shooting. Guns makes me community one mean being in areas where i might need to shoot a gun gets me okay. That's pretty good. Weird sketchy spot. because when i Do extreme sports right. I'm so excited. That i can't go to sleep and thank goodness. This video is brought to us. They couldn't videos brought to you by feels because feels is a super premium. Cbd company and they hooked me up with some awesome oils. And things like that. Because i really get like my heart pump in like going like crazy when i ride and do all this fun stuff right that. I actually have like a little bit of trouble sleeping. Have a little bit of insomnia. And i'm still thinking about it like i obsess over things right if i mountain bike refi snowboard at the end of the day. I'm watching youtube videos in continuing. And chasing that feeling that i just went through and then You know i won't sleep till three. Am sometimes because. I'm just watching these videos. But with feels i have now like a wind down routine where like take a few little drops and i feel that instead of continuing this high. In excitement i decided. Why don't i just figure out a way to kind of chill out and recharge in the morning. I can watch more of this stuff and continue. So i'm not like sleeping in and ruining my whole day so this has been a part of my nighttime routine now for about a year and it's pretty sick because i can integrate this pretty seamlessly into my life. And it's not. It's not harmful like it to me. It's like a good little balancer. So what is feels feels premium cv delivered directly to your doorstep and it naturally helps reduce stress as joe mentioning paint and sleeplessness. And if you're new to cbd feels offers a free cd hotline to help guide you through your personal experience and feels works naturally to help you feel better. There's no high no hangover or addiction. So if you're looking gift fucked up and make regretful choices. This isn't it. Join the fields community get feels delivered to your door every single month. You'll save money on every order and you can pause or cancel at anytime which is awesome so become a member and get fifty percent off your first order. We become a member and get fifty percent off your first order. Thank you to feels. Thank you very much. What are you guys watching football but right now. My team lost in the playoffs like lily. Thirty minutes ago. I covered myself and losses all even hatton. Did you hear about how bad has an effect on human like like depression and things like that like when your team loses and like the the real psychological identity to it so it's like a it's a it's wired into like like old school tribe mentality right like if you got taken over you feel the depression of like all. My fucking village got attacked. That's okay permanently. Talks into a final thing in your brain. They're saying like if you win you right in. Burn shit down. Because you're just like high like i just fuck in pillaged as village on the lakers one. Yeah that's also probably why everyone has to pass the clippers found out off. How can you be. Van thing does just repeated. That's just self destructive. They more malley for watching. Sports are more primitive. I don't know if there's a distinction between the two. I mean there's a there's a difference When choosing badly we'll just say in terms of like. I don't have anything obsessive over like that. I'm not you don't have a sports team sports but like for me. I think if i watched her then if i get the attached to a fighter it never really goes past the night anderson my hero and that one time when he kicked chris many shouldn't broken. I remember being fog and driving home. Like oh shit. That's craziest career's over. But the next day. I don't remember like wake. Gifts also gets knocked. You're still a fan of the sport so much that even the knocker your guide still sick. Knockout songs dan this. It's like activating collective conscious manly or man list or thing or or whatever. It's more like activating something that mob mentality like. The mob can feel a loss in like together. They feel sad or they feel like strength. And but that makes them destruct. I like that's the way it is with politics almost true. I see the same thing as fucking teams cynthia. Like if you're if you're a lakers fan and anyone that's a laker fan. Meet at in a bar. You're like dude. You're my brother now especially if you get a couple of drinks and there's like your family one of the best things about being a sports fan too. If you're like an out about sports fan the you will just talk to random people about sports like everyone feels cool to talk about it so when you win or you lose. It's like you experience those highs and lows together and the opposite to have you hear someone trash talking your team like fuck you saying. Is somebody friends in boston. Like don't ever wear lakers jersey. Legal shit serious though. They'll fight you to like what you up real. Statistics team sucks. Do the year the lakers one. I was at a bar. We walked outside and just rest your last year. This is like the last the last time koby wonder i walked outside of a bar and i was just talking about the game. I mentioned the name celtics and these two hose along the. What would you say this now. And i was like. I didn't say anything i was just like. Sorry the celtics not bringing in mentioned celtics. Yeah it's so weird. Because i the lakers just so. We had nothing to be upset about but the fact that i mentioned the losing team the opposing team. Which is i mean. Obviously lakers and celtics very storied history. Like obviously these guys were drunk well or something probably about the celtics. Fuck man people seriously out here. That is pretty crazy. But i hear that all the time. What's their mascot irishman. Yes you talking about yeah. They're not claiming in the. Don't talk about eleven. Don't even mention missed professor snipes. It rains a little bit. The cincinnati see the rainbow. The like are fighting objects. You could outside. That's kind of crazy. I don't know if. I ever been four something so hard that i fought like. It's kind of like apple. People like whatever. It's fun to pretend like you're an apple person or whatever right you're got those soccer games. Who azure rumbling. With other countries they throw bombs. The other team are you. Oh yeah the kill the soccer players. Yeah and he. The sas innate software players for missing a goal chevette needs to be fucking nuts and televised. That is relevant. Why would you like you. Wouldn't you wouldn't be a roulette hungry. No no why. Why wouldn't i be down for murder. You ll actually again. It's a little excessive. What part of the murder part wall like watching murder views. That's what if they cut away right before the murder happened like the movie like an ad. Yeah yeah that'd be good because you know what happened. You just heard the gunshot. No it's real life like that on a witness the weather. If you're like i could see. Hey we're going to passes. And whatever country has a fight you put up. Your best fighter will do this war but we only have one. That's pretty sick and you have to watch it. Beginning of troy out brad pitt. And that's super todd dude. They should just make countries do that or is just one on one you rather have entire. Thousands of children have so many more people loved. Because that's going to happen. I mean that's what they're doing in the olympics already late for example i think russia's much the draft no way people address countries might not draft yet volunteer to be a patriot right. So you get that group from all the countries and so instead of having wars tens of thousands of people die. It's just one hour. Yeah and if they did it for like say live prisoners right and if you win this one person that wins one hundred our opinion. They'll all die. The one prison gets set. Free one hundred people. What time of mealy for the chassis set free with their already prisoners in jail thousand jail life come out. You've earned it though like spartacus. Death rates under a member rather long entertainment in fantasy world movie land and non relief. Most probably more gory. In fantasy movies they blew the little kids head off in asia for this real. Take the shit off and then her head exploded off movie. You watch hunger games. Sounds familiar with japanese around. One was crazy occasionally. Real believes the only like that. Yeah real dog as fucked up as the one design and all that stuff. Yeah i dunno. I like the idea but do i like it for society. Maybe i do our see. I didn't see it going that way with the way that you were talking about it that way i had to put some thought to it and i said yes. I agree knowing. Yeah like when drugs are illegal. There's more crime or prostitution legal. There's more crime there's more there's more diseases but pretty much every country words legal. It's oh yeah. I've never talked so creatively parter. Not if you're rich

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Ep. 104: Manifesting Positivity in 2020

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1:22:57 hr | 2 months ago

Ep. 104: Manifesting Positivity in 2020

"Everybody quick request once again if you could help us out by filling out our survey. It's at ibm podcasts. Dot com slash survey. This really helps us talk to advertisers about the kinds of people listening to the shows. Really do appreciate your help. And we're going to be doing a random drawing and we'll be sending out some. Ibm shrek hope you enjoy. That have had a unique role in defining humanity's mindset this year because twenty twenty has been in europe and content consumption and social media interactions have been gateway to human connections and y imitators at after one wheel other. Oh it's the ones who've spread positivity unhappy life stall of us that have seen the most growth so as we close out the zero. I'm soup to have three big creators who astronomical growth this year across instagram guns. On the show this week the common thread that connects them. As i see it is their focus on manifesting happiness and positively against their shots done that through his funny relate to blend sometimes thought provoking radios upper mulberry predicted how unique routes To showcase an amplified multiculture through community building content android. The sunny has made a grim smile with every done deal. Just like anything she puts out bringing out the inner dissidence molin. All of us truly broken out doesn't And in doing so have made everyone who's watching interact with them. Feel the positivity we've all needed around us to steel. I'm under get allah right back with this very special episode of advertising state but have shown modern high. I am sudduth. And i'm much connick. Guy at the hus- economics policy psychology somehow menu but only on the noncolored lv veggie since if ibm podcast app. Yup site booth. John phoebe up near barkat cynthia. Welcome back to dead. This is an interesting episode. I call it the arizona. Christmas appraise because when i got to know the tweets that have for this episode And i got to know that they were going to be my guess for the christmas episode of other I was like I'm not going to have to do nothing because for anyone. Who consumes gordon. They put out there. This is like a is an all-star also cast of of twenty twenty two guys that happen to fall under ability to throw stuff at each of you. But i'm i gonna start off by saying okay Louis it'll come up on welcome augusta event in order in which i can see you guys in the secondary acknowledges that in of welcome to the show and And how many people have done a podcast before never never never done both believers. Yeah thank you. Thanks for having so couple things about this show. This show allows guests to go rogue so you can fully going on on on You can start talking about anything and everything under the sun. birkat kick it off. I thought i'll ask each of you At the start of the year was is now. How has twenty twenty being for you as a creator. i'm gonna just start with sandwich review At start being a creator wasn't even on my mind at all because i was at midwest born exempt. So you can imagine a hundred and they're all gonna happen. And that's when. I kind of know picked up fashion for radio. Creating and the last smolder six months every night life jin relate my wildest dreams through so up on overdue for me was similar. I mean i was planning on going to india in march. And that's like when the lockdown happened so we couldn't go so it was kind of like a. Oh i'm i really wanna be there. I miss my people. I miss speaking my language. I'm forgetting like at that point. When i would call my friends up like i was losing my malone. Like i had to think i couldn't express myself like damn. I have to do something about this so literally. Four o'clock in the morning this day. I was like okay. it's time i'm creating this account. I chose inverted coconut. Because that's kind of how i describe myself and yeah the rest is history like i had no idea it. The whole point was for me to connect with my roots basically and just like keep practising the language key pricing money on them and like it. Just i don't know how i'm it's my growth has been kind of more gradual throughout the has been like a boom like you guys It's been taking a still not used to it. Though like creating the content everything is brand new for all of us. It's insane. I agree i shouldn't feed and i was like okay. One second i have to really ask my friends. Who maly florida stuff that you see Thank treaty my best friend. Who lives upstairs is so he was kinda like what is happening ever not. I got new a new set of followers that We able to view. A real was interesting to a very very interesting. It's it's like okay. I wasn't india and phone And go back vocal view. So i was a. I've been doing videos being a social media like digital creator. I was like. I never thought about it. I'll gadgets do it for fine. I actually used to make fun of my friends who are like doing like chance. And now you're gonna put something you're gonna take four now. They're gonna do this. But i think after the one boys while video especially the biggest issue that i mean my friends are like so you got famous on a big issue with wearing okay. Okay nyc that video enviro. I think i've got so much positive. Feedback and i was not expecting that like people loved it via dancing. They're like looking idea and just doing what we like to do. And this is literally what i used to do in india back into these legal but not like on a video like club. I dan saying it's like you know. I'm not showing something i would. I'm not but lake. Opponents said it's very new to us. They creating aucoin sometimes pressure. But i think it has been crazier like amber started the. Let me put it this way january. I usually like so people go to sleep before is like i dog land. They know me and it's like that's that's big. It's it's it's just putting happen is it's too much negativity in the actually this. It's still on. But i think a little bit of positive touch was needed. It was much needed said. Happiness in positive durant. That's what i take at all of your of journalists and look at the canaccord nuclear dieting. That's the common thread there that all of y'all are spreading happiness conveys bidding. What i call the good day. See don slips. Which is it's not a that is the essence of on every actually wants to like for this song anc you when i didn't understand half the stuff user most of the stuff you say but i was still waiting happy schooling through it and i was like i think i watched your spanish. We do the one we teaching spanish in one. Second this one. I got to watch theft favorites together. Goto and Since we started this off before gore better augusta. Dude degrees won't be one. That was that remake. it will last. Because i'm like i've been saying this for your on beacon or get goal but yeah but i'm intrigued. You guys have just brought good vibes and happiness and an and actually want to start with that. I wanna start. But saying he's i mean i'm going to just going to bounce it off bordman you're gonna start something off in creating something water. The things that you Easiest of in your head or is this of areas gonna revealing and figuring out what you're going to do. I'm only a day off so watching you guys and then i don't know it makes me question myself because i really don't have Like you know this. I look at my messages. I actually go through messages. I don't know what you guys do. But i spent like hours. I think i need to stop doing that. 'cause it's like but anyways i really i start writing down like the most popular requests and so i kind of go like that because i don't really have a niche. I've tried multiple things. I've done like comedy den educational. I've done beauty tips like all these different things. I don't know i just i like exchanging because i'm also like my mind like that. I like change quite often I did like some dancing. So yeah i just like because i get bored easy. I just wanna keep entertaining but the other side of that. Is you know some things. Don't rock everybody's vote so it's like i. It's always a hit or miss and that's fine. That's what digital concentrating is all about. You learned from everything and just like kinda going with the if it doesn't make me feel good. I'm not gonna do it. So that ended at the end of the day. If i end like having fun and feeling. The joy and spreading positivity bay. The people watching will feel that as well. And that's like the whole thing behind my contests like feel good energy. Feel goodbye northing along some ago similar age. yes definitely. it's like. I think creating i do originally like anti like i said i don't do it if somebody this guy do it if i like it if i love it it's like very and if you see my song collection it's like you know what i'm really like working out or i'm walking and i put it on youtube playlists right. That's the that's the thing. I wanna dance on like. That's that's it so it's like nothing is going off even people that make videos Bake extremely the song and As that's a bad so i think i do. Visualize i would not say like apartments not everything. Everybody's gonna like it so if you like it you're happy and i think that's what matters the most our not lie. Send my videos to fifteen to twenty people before hosting into that list. It's going to hit scored talked with the added. Oh oh my goodness. But i do have people even my friends and like some people like some people like bumps. Okay thanks for giving me ideas. I like it. I love you goes like it's like the end of the day my best friend you know. What are you gonna do. You're gonna post you like that's how it matters like. That's so you do. Get on. And off. But i think that's just a visualization i. Do it comes out. Good sometimes come to a great at times. She figured out. I just feel as affected. You said that that's generally what you do. Places like zoomed. You want to go look for long now. I know that that's part of what you generally research. If you see my playlist on the phone at ghoulish omar denied ibook songs. I levels own. It would school slow. Sad song Making happy as like it's like mike. Metering i can even don stewart i. I can literally be like a. Why are you sad not do something about it. I think it can go wrong Anglophone difficult bush putin song. it's it's crazy. I think that's my mood. That's by gets me. Moving to be honest music does yes nothing. I guess i've watched. That was happy for you. Failed to put it like turn to capture horror. You kind of start. That often haughty gonna think about each piece on for making my content like reset definitely. Visualize what i wanna do before that shooting. And for my on i basically. I'm always on the lookout for ideas. Like i wake up and the first thing online sport can make. Let's do something a little different. Let make something today. and. When i'm outside i just think bateson beaches from my experiences but i like laura newton so i experienced a lot of new stuff and i kind of be those experiences together and then kind of visualize what type of content i can make for my audience. Why what i love making. What's link authentic to me last one. My audience wants to watch. It's like a it's like a it's like the equal balance emerging those and. That's that's why. I think i've been able to elect stay true to myself while also giving the audience what they want because that that's the most important thing in the end of the day. What is it is interesting right. Because it's office office. So relatable like i am want to make but i am like much much older. Say like i'm going to be like fourteen years So so like. I'm like i'm on. You don't know for aids had dropped. You do look for eight. I want to fourteen to an and i have a three year old. And i was overdue and i was trying to come in so that she and i should start making these together. Have fun little like we go to this and she later on audience. You don't dance pop major a darker down. Said i'm gonna i'm convincing That so i was thinking what i find interesting. Is that each So so is it pretty much a luckily subdued. I don't look at these are ten fifteen things. I've just kept the backbone. So they one day. You're like okay. i don't have any idea. Let me go to what i've going to pull down or or do you. Just keep them in your head. I'm gonna let their secret of my this diabetes. Mike carbonite you. Add this to me at all times anything. I see anytime video editor. Don't because the thing about mike on biz title. Make it as funny as best as i can. So it's italy things can happen at any time in my life like you know. I miss those moments. Because if i sit down and relatable idea us is going to be impossible to come up with them so now i kind of yes i just. I'm always on the lookout. Always look for note to self almost booed ideas on. Don't forget the mother. all that is so cute. I'm imagining about this. Not and he's like You know you have those things in animal guys. Looking looking at animals against going on you can do their abundant your story. I found fascinating. Because of your childhood in kayla and then states and everything. And i love to hear from you aboard. How that diaper is gonna feed Didn't do make. Because i found it so interesting and add the more things. I read the motorcade looking for for other piece on number. I find that entire story Soul a. it's it's a beautiful in so many ways in just the the the different lakes bread i love. You gonna tell that. Yeah well so my starts from the beginning of my life. I guess because my parents were you know spiritual seekers hippies. They like to travel. They met in india looking for a good looking for something higher than themselves. They wanted to live with purchase. They wanted to practice yoga and meditation on all these things so they met there than they went back to america. I was born in the united states. In when i was three. They had that longing again that craving to go back like once. You've been to india once you have to keep going back as just like you get addicted and so it was like that for my family. So at three years old they decided okay. Let's shift here. And i was enrolled in school the next year at four. Your old than get la. I didn't speak the language. Like i was the only white kid in my rule for literally the next ten years. No i mean initially of course it was a little bit tough because i look different and so people didn't understand me or they didn't is just like there was something there but the thing that moved that lauck between me and everybody else was learning the language so it took me about two years to become fluent in milan and as soon as i learned the language it was like you know the rest is history. Like it's just normal childhood. It was actually not normal. Just magical like my childhood was amazing. i don't know of. Us feel the same way. I've heard a lot of horror stories in childhood by. Just don't know how i got so lucky like it was just great friends and everything So anyways when i was fifteen years old i shifted to the united states and so after living now twelve and a half years in gala. I'm shifting for the first time to the united states. i was fifteen years old. If you can kind of picture that you're a teenager and new go to like an american school where there's clicks and we know people are really. I don't know if i can say bad words here but like the beaver okay. The bitches like all loss of being like you know all the high school american high school movies. Like that's all true. That really have been like the clicks and everything. And i just didn't know anything i was like. You know what happened. When i was young in indios again happening now in america way worse. Because we're older you now. The teenage years bully thing anyways so i really try to fit in. I tried so hard. It just wasn't working like so. I got really bad in. I went through this thing where i started asking myself like. Why can i not be tested here. Like what's what's wrong with me like a really insecure really really insecure and what i did was i was actually cutting out my indian roots to fit in in the west. That's how i kinda describe it now is like and when i think back. That's really what i was doing. I didn't want anything to do with india anymore. Like nothing else. Like i can't because i need to start my new life and that shift in mentality is what started causing depression. 'cause i was denied my true self. I was saying no to might like who i was and it was only like several years later when i was eighteen years old that i had the shift again where i was like. You know. you're not going to be happy if you keep doing this. You have to balance both worlds and accept yourself for who you are and just doing that actually made a switch in my mind and people saw a shift in me because i suddenly was more positive and people saw that shift and then they started respecting me for who i was because i was starting to respect myself and anyway so years later i would spent. I spent many as fifteen years in the united states. I'm not sure how much i should talk. Should i stop. You can go in and go okay. So then yes. So fifteen. Years in the united states than i was trying to for some community there some indian community and i moved to oregon portland oregon. Which is the small city. I love oregon. If you guys have a chance go to portland. It's like this growing city. Have you been directly. nobody's beautiful. it's i've seen it. It's beautiful gorgeous and dumps there. There happened to be like a huge tech place In in the little city next next door to us. So a ton of mali's tunnel indians were there. And i finally found my community and so i was getting invited to all these like indian events and i was starting to speak money adam again and that's when i was introduced to the term. You know indians who are raised in the united states. Call themselves coconut. I didn't know this. But this is what i was told and hearing. Yeah they said. Noah yeah that's what they were telling me that externally they look like they're brown but inside they feel western they feel like a western and that status. They use the term coconut me. Hearing this i'm like. Oh my god i literally the inverted pilgrims where the name came about they. So that's the story this so many things there to unpack and i think i all of its support and of finding Anything that's the essence of any creator fee led their people genuinely follow. Wanna see more of their content is so as long as they kind of trying to actually just be themselves the more people to the more. You're trying to all that person's contents looking great. I'll do that Al this person is an at some point during the being that person. And you know what you're doing and you're gonna give up at some level because it's not truly you and and i feel that that's the one thing you're gonna take away from from gaunter at all and i also remember reading this nugget. Wanna rule he you You grew up singing. good. Yes i did. I actually grew up in zimbabwe. Yes it was this mall. That's a moment leg. My mom is so relaxed. I used to be the saying you know do all the they've been you know saturday night right after the go. Let's go out soon a balanced. I think you know living a balanced life is the best i used to sing. I like to sing. I think it's not it's indian. I can sing with something. I'm like you know. Let me just let me just. Even i'm not even a professional dancer. Relate what am i do a dancing. Say you know what about one two. Yeah professional i can do is call professional dancing back. Just they're doubly and a professional. You're like i mean learned. Anyway i would like to learn. I've known not so yes. I've done different things than i turned eighteen hours. I need to change my life. But that's exactly what i was doing dancing with. Before year's event like out a came world dancing again. I actually never stopped dancing. Go to try for now. That's what i do hundred. That's it. Yes i am very. I believe and very special person even mama's yoga instructor so she has your neighborhood Hang or and i believe in that. I've had the best experiences in my life so a finals in singapore countries. That you've actually picked some songs when you big them and lake. You'll pick a specific song when this will be might not too. It's not like you're sticking to one right like selects. A song. I've seen like devine's on silent up somewhere in between it's kind of begin like liam seeing like advertising obligations putting up your your saw your early edition of the shyly mud muscle less and i was like this is all subject. I literally heard that that also came on. I was I think. I don t devine's it's what gets me like way up warn you do but when i watch it makes listen either crazy. I was like i can imagine what i can do. In this game all l. But i was like okay that then beat. You're outta your enter you you keep you just go like that's it so i think the music i love on and then let it be. The job is so it's like different. Every i think a religion has different picture. It'd be anything in indiana so so beautiful and especially estimates have moved to the states. I started by doing that. Road like i was missing little Gun patino rotten. All investment like bangladesh. Lake my favorite thing to be the ninety nine. They're like nine or get like in the united states. you get nine holidays. I was making i. This is just one bestselling. They love it. It's like i am wants to spreading a lot of knowledge they get to learn and all. I think that's a great thing to so it's enjoying making cyber thing. August is one thing which i heard you say some. I think it was on the panel that you were on And i heard you say this. Is that for you all initially. It was aboard you kind of putting out content. That was an expedition which For yourself but eventually also became. What the community that you can. Billing organic spitting them how that community look you know because there are people following. You'd how are you going to look at how you relate to them create for them and all of that so i I used to make the same gone leg in other thing. I m like this on camera. As off camera like a bef- we are making these videos or anything. I would always talk and laugh back in jokes making ba- laughing happy little rancid. Remember the ice in boston on negga family noticed something like that be laughing and then video is just a phone. happened to find and docking mother. Community is i. I really just love making people happy. Because i've realized that the people watch my videos are i think my name demos Thirteen twentyish item being. That is being put into eighteen by That i never had anybody. I could just look guide. Whenever i needed a break from what is going on in my life. Studies was bogging me down that it'd be five or fight with my mom. My dad my brother. Anybody not friend anybody. I just didn't have kind of to escape. And somebody who i go dumb dog do under see who has the same problems as me and was giving me that happiness that he all of us go to stuff but it's okay and you just have to laugh and be positive throughout the thing because unique aren't going and that's kind of where i see my community where even affleck. I need somebody in public. It's it's like it's never like augustine galas there. What's up man. How are you like a friend. And that's the type of community. I want to be because if their friends or family at the end of the dan. That's you'd always want to give positive in happiness to your friends and family. And that's exactly how i treat my supporters. I don't even like calling the link fans hit jordan. Hit that door source. I obviously guys zealous supporters. Golan fans adam demonstrate buddhism family and. I just wanna spend happiness in boston for the in any way again. Video is just the might fashion which has had me. Spread that positively. Such everybody's on destroyed. I'm telling you this is one of those. No let's say you were eating young now. That's a calm for you. See this this alex You don't agree some of the concepts that you talk about are really mature and high level like the of manifestation that video that you've mazing like that people find like much later in life. You're not owning finding it for yourself but you're sharing that very young audience. That's really early credible. Don't stop keep actually keeping my bearings were given me this Really the big believers manifestation is the ball of that you can control your exterior to your deedee. Israel taught so you become. I think about at my dad and my mom really deviate. Pardon me having this guy of belief in me which has wide literally changed my life in the last six months i could not even have imagine being on this podcast in january or like you know anything anything like this so yeah it's been it's been. Why cats lusty self proud of you know. Act like dude. I have issues with some of the videos you made it showed us. This video are no not november. Allied dad comes to me still or is this he. I didn't know if he. I don't know but i spend plain people do this. My supporters are my age. So i have to make such gordon than you know. It's just like messages from their friends seeing that bad kids nba. Watch mike on. And so i mean. I get it because it's also new to all of us like my parents do the incredibly supportive like like beyond the people that i go to with any of my ideas and you sit brainstorm with me. Assure them like do. Show them over the boston. D'amato before this and you could have in that but yeah yeah i can say you talk more parents. I noticed the video. You just put. Was that the mom on the drums at the back in the of the background for the study from. Oh man. that looks like vega birthday one. Don's right next to me. He was like so he johnson. I think long day my mom was like was. I was leaving work more. Do you look you this whole net laundry bag and i take thrall histamine being like like we can make this can use this as i was thinking of work that act scan go have big at nine be heavy. Let's make it easy. And you know alexis get a door when it comes to peyton's definitely not my mama's bar overnight enjoying it. He's hype he Vocal vr. and. I hear all of this season. They got alma you stalking me now. Who has exploded late see goes through all the comments and everything like even. I don't go through on my garments. All of them into is cracking up. Can we also talk about the the group of friends that you have in all your kenley. Is you have them. Because i feel that some of them are supersized like oh my own of them have their own. All of them have their own. Like you know could slow approach for one person. She's always doing splits nuts like anyone. I'm like okay. What do whatever you want them. That's my thing for specific manila energy. Like the music considered with holidays She splits wander keer day. She does this board step. It's like soul hilarious. Because everything. I have Even her and there's one is fourth girl. Data usually became up with all like leave. Ac kind of thing you legis keep doing this. There are sisters so the amendment workplace. I work together back in the days used to make videos and even that got kicked out of a restaurant the room for making dudes like is there. Like i have opposed. I'm like you know what i don't care. Let's do you wanna do it. You anything that's gonna make you happy. Let's do. they wanna make overdue alabi. Are they like alex. So can one make Understood made to god kicked out. I was fire and so i think their energy is different. I think we had so much idea to. It's like crazy it sometimes. I'm like you know what especially when my my mom and my brother they argue. I felt homesick. The you know the homesick feeling especially when it was logged down. Newest was so like but name made me feel like you know zone right here. So you know we can make home banjo. Everything they bind loving. They cannot wait windy lake. Do all this talk for songs for you. The looking for songs ask you funniest thing either. Funniest thing i go to their house i put you on the tv while leases men lady li like back warning listening. Because there's one would she. I like anytime with i. Okay okay fine you have different the on so it's like i love that gorba- like yeah. Okay not you gonna love india loving. They enjoy it. i think it's they lowered. They're like literally calling into lake. Mary make mimics. We do the extra sleep through the the third only they relate. 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It's like it's a stress relieving thing to be honest making do with them very closely abundance of i was watching some some of your videos involved. I phoned so interesting was the it's like you have a huge less like your family like i. That's because they're also happy on like especially. Because i i went through some of the library and this is like this genuine happiness. It's almost feel like oliver known each other for leg forever. How is that we know is. I've been kind of so many people across across the me. Mafia is all around the world. I'm sure it's like this all cultures in india. But i'm not so familiar with the other. So i can't say but in in canada the people are just so warm and welcoming. You never feel like an outsider. Really just invite you home for chai like something. They're just like immediately ready to accept you as part of their own type of thing. And so like i've always felt that and that's how i describe gan led to my friends abroad and now with my account like when i call them up. It's like we've known each other. Like i have no clue who they are. But it's like we know each other. Like i know we just we five. It's really really bad. Jingle lives with my supporters is my favorite part about I don't know if any of you have done that yet. But i just call random i call like i tell them okay today. I'm calling ten people and we're just gonna chat like real quick and then we're gonna move onto the next so it's like they're all waiting and they all wait they wait for the entire hour and dislike. Call me comey. It's just so cute. And then when they come up like the joy and then they call their whole family like the iran. Mma comes in like you know like everybody is just so cute and then they posted because there's a so excited i'm like i'm nothing special. I'm literally just like you guys. I just have a cameron. I'm shooting this but like if for them it makes day and that is just i love it. That's my favorite part. Whenever i feel down my partner is like why don't you go lives 'cause then after the live i'm just so buzzed i'll make purpose saudia won't know when you said what you said like you're going when you're down. That's that's something i was very like. It fits Thirty in the night. And i have to get this done college the next morning. It's do. I have no energy in my body but i go life because i know if i'm that these thousands of people are watching the i need to bring it right down and grow through my body and act as the guys library for fifteen minutes to get that i can actually study for an arm and yes. Yeah last time. Nine hours later. I was on it. Takes at. I sent him over questions on. How is that what you said. I have to have a bag of having to decide on this like near the day. I'm going the. I i misspoke. I would lay desert announcers jealous. 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That's when ours leg in that market haka on hits anything nothing and beat the let it be all feeds us. What not. And if you're talking wellbeing or than i am right there with you because i literally wake up at four thirty in the morning i have a whole routine. I literally have a dealer on monday. I have literally seen things i do. If woman walkout same things. I eat like equally cooking when i literally week. A brew my coffee. Sit down calm down on this. Enjoy one cup of coffee. In the end the day goes by murphy late food and family because offers down that I was so scared that made me go back or failings. Vigo dad called me. Nightlong them like that. That thing was the more difficult thing. 'cause team travel so it wasn't a world what going to happen but everything works out. Everything always works out in now. I like operas do work. I don't know. I believe a lot. And i rally especially when low time when you're feeling down. If he like my thing. I look up to something better from me something that make me feel like this. Something better is coming aures. But i wouldn't two months literally two months. Everybody dan making something better every day. Something crazy everyday something new every day. Something that's bringing me being the most the happiest emma would say on north on the would yes. I think lowering everything is very important. Sleeve even comes to family and food food. But you're so used to being so busy you know like go go go go. Life is just like that and with the sierra. It's really taught me a lot of people to just slow down and chill out and just take jill hill. You enjoy the the small moments the small winds throughout the day. So i'm trying to stay positive in my head for a mistrial man. Like i'm a travel junkie. I just i just missed them at you know but at the same time. I don't know if you're all working now. But usually i work and i spend it all in. I go travel. i'm broke again. 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Everything's coming for you. That's what i've been the everything everything's coming from you like it's dead. It's so yeah. I was watching the video about this and the thing which released it out to me is. You're not owning thinking about what you want. But your mentality is as though you already have achieved like thank. You already have the single that you know for my hundred k. Followers or whatever it is that you are wishing for that time the like you already have it. That's the mindshift that we have young. Because then reinforces the belief of and that it's all the thing about it as it's already a reality. It's a future. That's ordeal competition are trying to catch up. That's all i'm getting phone. So that's not gonna madonna you golden so. Yeah that's just like. I'm lacking leading that seep in all the stuff that you just said it is noise. You're eighteen augusta lady. Something wrong here like this. What is so beautiful on so many levels right. I'm just like letting those seeping and which is i. I would say glint end question. Which is something. I can do towards the end of episode. I do But in this bit surprising that i won't be able to so What is one thing gonna be for all of y'all that you have you have so many followers all of you But water they not all about you that you spend time doing consuming like you know. Is there something which you spend a lotta time doing. Consuming watching reading could be anything you do x. Obsessive what is that x. and which your supporters is today Don't know enough about because you work more i. I don't think people know that. I have a full time job to be honest. I don't think any law people don't even know. What do you just gotta my location. Solutions will be relieved. The emmy to day i. Here's an how. Can i be in tiny and have this beautiful. I mean what. Do i say so. I do live in the states but what i do as a full time job. I don't think anybody does no. I have a whole time job. I work As a test technician at Company so yes. I'm i'm taking at work. They are supportive love them. I literally have people. I have indians over. The daylight yield was like paying walk suspending me that i'm so happy that makes you so happy. They coming from where you don't get support from world and then into lake data truly hype you up. Wake happy for you genuinely and said the thing. I think my mom believes in that and she gave me heat. Talking may peak saying boys of stuff. It does well. And i have experienced it when i was young. You know you take soda from a mind mice to be like when you own you know. Tk i am a mom meadow letterman. What used to be my state. I had no plans of leaving house. I had no plan nothing. I came to the states with nothing. Like i have a home in mumbai. If i feel. I have a shelter. I'm gonna come here. I'm going to do whatever. I can started working dunkin donuts and now i am that i am. I want to narva wannabe fisher might fires. If you asked me that what would you be doing. I wouldn't say that. I would be or does dino ford amazing many different. That was a deputy united. My first paycheck poisoned orleans. So it was like you know. I used to stay. Save save anomaly moments. They keep saying women must in. Oklahoma mcguire has heap staying in bed. Amman but i think he added. I think United i think people do nothing like i don't like to be like what i do for a living anything by anything well for me like license. My content is kind of just all over the place. I really have no secrets. I let it all out. But the one thing that i haven't i did one video on this but it's not something that i've done a lot with because i believe it's a very private internal thing. Which is i meditate. A lot i grew up in an ashram in in ganilau of course and so every day we had meditation budgen yoga all these things. So that's very much a part of my life every morning before bedtime and it's like a inner journey. It's not something that i expressed outwardly. Although i wish i could just talk about you know how to look within defined happen is within because we all have that inside of our own hearts we have to be aware of it and wake up to it but it just doesn't flow naturally to me. I feel sometimes. I don't use the right word so i don't wanna like make mistakes and how i express it. It's just like for me. It's an internal process in connecting to the divinity which is within ourselves. It's not like you know there has got everywhere like in the trees in the grass in each one of your hearts everywhere just wanting to Striving every day to kind of realize that like right. Now i say it with my mouth but do i really understand not quite an. I'm striving to actually realize that truth. Which is you know overall everywhere. Yes so that's my private little life that i have. You can see the glue on your face meditation your lately. He's little right when it comes to talking using me i do. I look medi. If i don't question. I could sit com and lake. But you know my mom being your instructors That is prominently the gum. Everything and we can see that. It's beautiful. I mean that that's amazing. Thank you that's the biggest compliment anyone could ever give me self doubt. I guess some people not know about you do you. Do you spend your time to off camera you. I'm doing what. I'm doing all scattered on camera late. Does low everything about my life. And that's good and bad gets last night. I don't think that's what i'll do about me. Is i Spend a lot of time All the time just wanting to become a better person. I really like movement That is something that focus on i. It's not only in this like unspiritual spiritual way. It can mean anything like literally anything. Like i i like picking. You won't be allowed these or stock like for example. Exercise dollar example. I just start writing. I started reading. It's all forms of accession blooming. Which i don't make the talking about manifestation also One eight hundred. That'll something really really big. I opened up about my life to a lot of people and glad i did because it does not another feeble and has session boom into something which i don't think a lot of mexico does that i do. I want to read more. I wanna dedicate reading more than my day and Just picking up new hobbies. Like i do right now. I don't think they know that. I'm always always trying something. New every laying symbolist cooking and different dish. Like i made lasagna. Once guide to cooking bug right so cooking picked up and lasagna. Once in my family now. I made lasagna for them sometimes. So it's kind of that said if you blow meeting which addicted to answer alleviate hubbard so i think that's not that's something a lot of people don't know about you had made. I made blake exact now without one. Some of them using arms. I'm telling you you're gonna be with the movie. Say you have witnessed does isn't anything. i guess. Assume mentioned that you spend more time. Is this something that you read or listen to wash indecent. That judy like one more people kind of a catch up with it on. So i listen to a lot of august for a podcast especially I've been listening to donate albans podcast so just last night so again like when mike alert last night is think about. How can i do widely cover. So i tried to go to organize lord's such. I'm getting into fashion. But that's kind of new online right now style. I get better. i'll do make me feel like also loo. Calvin you're talking word lake aboard word. I mean that itself. I'm like once listed will show things in their dislike. Loafer made of corn has just. I wanted on august. I was watching. Don't broadcast last night with conor mcgregor but talking and is this something. I would want a lot more people to know about is. How just connecting with your yourself can gene your life like a lot of people think that achieving that goal has to be way ahead in life in the abuse or like diagnosed like you do what. I'm twenty three twenty. Four that veggies. Microwaves might do if your dream. You don't wait to jason this tweet and that's not only and Something like what you said was something you do everyday. So i listened to this audio scorned on the strangest sneaker in the lord it's by uh nineteen and I ought of your should listen to that audio everyday because talks about the concept of you having a golden life becoming what you think about and because listen to it every day it's become an input into my mind and the perspectives of my life has changed some data. Something which. I want a lot of people in this imbalance. Guard the strangest secret in the lloyd by And so thinking about your content Like it's very lighthearted and a comedy and since that happened throughout your day. I would really like to see some more bs. Teachings get being or braided this because you know. They're such short videos young. I think there's a lot of potential to change mindsets in to really make an impact on people's lives and since you're so well loved already. It could be really amazing for you. Yes so i've i did. Start this I g it's got two minutes to think it's where i talk about issues that we as delectable teams just generally people all of us face but a lot of people again again my entire content stems from this me not having anybody i could look up to and kind of talked about things are not talking about things was going through. And that's something which. I don mcgahn ten and i talked about so Ah spoken about hit online. Outspoken about the field of missing. That is a huge thing. Vision and Yeah i liked that more and Yeah i'm i'm looking to despair our show a different side of me now because a lot of people that sign and i wasn't too short like it's a little more up on vote what Be something to kind of lake which you've read which listen to could be. Anything wasn't really thinking. Because i was so engaged to ask okay so Actually the past two days. I've been listening a lot to Totally he is one of my biggest teachers. I don't know if you guys are familiar. He's a amazing just that he wrote power of now a new earth. But i've been watching recently on youtube. He like each video has like way over a million views. I'm so he in. This particular video that i watched today he was addressing google headquarters in california. So it's a lot of techies and people who work on their computer all day. Which actually i can relate to and a lot of you probably. You're always on your phone or your computer. So it's like you get drawn into the collective thought when you're on like social media and i worked on line so that's just my everyday. It's always looking at the screen. So what he was really teaching. Which is something. I've heard a long ago from him. And i've kind of incorporated throughout my days. That often you forget some of these jumps in life so you always have to be reminded so again. I was reminded today of Them education like if people have a hard time. Meditating sit down your your mind is going crazy. A lot of people have difficulty meditating so instead of like to get stressed out about that. Try many meditation. So it's literally like thirty seconds half of a minute of suddenly you're shifting. You're taking a mental decision like you're aware that you're making this decision to just focus your mind on something natural like for example you know the truth outside of the window or event like the the The wind that's coming through your face or just like what i do. I just closed my eyes. And sometimes i'll even with alarm on my phone every thirty minutes because i'm home all day. I work online so every thirty minutes. I haven't alarm in. I literally for like a split second unlike and then it's like refreshed. I literally just pressed pause refresh and re start on my day and the more often you do this throughout your day. And it's like i said it takes no time it's like a slip second of dislike tuning in. You're recognizing and if you keep doing this. Those moments of sitting down meditating becomes way easier. It's like oh immediately you're like wow. I can clear my mind because you've been training your mind. You've been practicing. And that's why they say meditation practice because nobody becomes expert. It's always a practice right so we just constantly putting your effort and it takes that dedication like you know that. Drives them among. My mom tells me that we've actually forgotten out to breathe because you do have led to hopefully go in and go out and they just we just got so much energy she said Have have stopped body. Certain make sense. He's one pause take a breath That's on the owner diana. Yeah it's amazing. It changed my life movie. You'll forget sorry you'll forget but then you have to remember again. You've gotta. I mentioned the google and i actually have a few. I watch reminds me every couple of us go breads it a minute but i do like for like ten seconds still. Let's like based on broad you to do that. You're where i don't. I say okay. I'll tell you what i did. Something different changed me as listening. Nothing i feel like my mind is so calm right now to be sure i started boxing. Ooh that's modest ally. Boxing's way to meditate. And yes and i do. We'll go to the warning dude like friends. So that's like you don't do different things. The leg in the morning. I will go with a friend. Gets my day started. But i started boxing and i think since dan the amount all stress has like one low. And everything has just goes meditate. Like boxing is like you said it's meditations on it is it gets your mind healthy and it's so cold out here you need blood flow like banda. Gets you the whole hoon session and everything you get your energy out. It's not about daca Sunoco obama grits of automotive blake technique. So you known so much in thing. And i feel like bats. The bags will have done. So i've different ever workloads that. Got me so calm. Changed my mind. Get it gets me hype. Gets me how they'd gets moving. 'cause long goddess to a very lease just laying on gouge working from home working in are doing and you sitting on and i'm like okay this to that. Got me up that me moving. That i learned something new and i love learning every i she said practice. Yes don't want to be an expert on anything that we keep giving the all the knowledge that's our dogging to you guys. It feels so different with everybody has a different mindset. Everybody does something different. And it's sold refreshing now. Listen to the podcast. Now aren't going meditate. They could be better than i think so. I think that's a great thing. Actually like miami to get it out as watson this i make somebody wants to fight my bank say. Let me say that. I was going through those meditation apps and one of the things that guy said you can actually stand up and start shadowboxing. You're still Admitted and at eleven destig- Fun you don't have to go hard. But he's just generally those leg. Different weight made it own very designate. Little died from dame is Both the boxing has listed the meditation. it's going to work is generally the last question of every us. I've just realized it's been aborted. Fifty nine twenty minutes since you started big mistakes. We did it like that long. I just i am. i started. We always used to be dancing nor die. But that's a different point or whatever started too late and this episode for me more than anything else has been aboard positively. It's been abroad like you all to spread like solid positive vibes negative late. But i'm only because of what the whole world was going through So i wanna ask each a few waiting positive everyday are to do l. on in this question is better gonna go. I guess last eleven fifty different responses to that. They have some yes. You're right. what is what's the question again. Why has never died either. Security my god does is they. Let me throw my accent here. So i so i feel like the david even die is because of people to be honest to be honest people get your negative but you see if you see the model of love. Viga lamar love. Even if you're not a digital create the amount of love anything up listen can change you one message. From one specific posing to change you relate to that little positive messages. Won't people who don't know it. I'm keeping the thing. I'd vitamin reduced. You've been many make fan arch you make everything for you. That look that they do for you. That gets soul happy. I late having people around this having human beings. Don't wanna do never done anything. Let me anything. Everybody has different trades yet. Both negative and positive. Just pick out and you know everybody has negative like i said so if you just go up there for dates than doing so much and it's always so happiness i feel like if everyone being wrong every day and you know the content creators of course not i guess they keep adding more touted spending love voters in spending all the their own towards people are not comfortable talking about themselves at times. So it's like human beings. I feel like if life everything is alive. Everything lively and while. I feel like we've all experienced positively in our life. We know the impact it has on us and we've also experienced negatively and of course with given a choice we all know which one we would choose and something else that kinda goes hand in hand is like you start feeling positive more even when you give something good if it is with giving that you received and i feel everybody who has experienced this in any form of their life kind of understand that this is a truth. It's like a law of the universe so people tend like i believe that people are inherently. Good they're good people it's like a mindsets or situations that make people make sometimes bad decisions or things that could harm other people. So i don't know. I don't think it could die. Because people when experiencing just a breath of positivity it like brian up so much that it's like it's like rookie was saying like when you receive a fan art like while they just took like hours of their day to make this for me like this is what people are doing and it's just like it's socially it makes you wanna give back somehow so a flag call people because it's just like i don't know when given a choice everybody will choose positively so it can't die. I guess you have to pick one amongst many on says. Sure this all ready. I think positive even level dive because everybody at the end of the day just warms to be happy in themselves. I'm not make those happy and the only way to be happy and make others happiest positive. If you're negative you gone to make yourself happy on. You can't make anybody happy and just that the the biggest everything everything we do is food. Do we put ourselves so that we can get that happiness vigia singing a life or that we can give somebody as a family happiness offerings happy. They want and Positivity is kind of the same through which happiness guns and because of good people around us even. If there's just one person left he could make the dia world beco- with him. And therefore i think positively is never ever gonna die. That's like a buffet. Not again of end this episode of you so much. This has been i can say this. It's been what i'm forgetting going over. One hundred episodes of the sport as happiest episode in old sense. Thanks much. And keep spreading the positivity me happiness in the twenty one and beyond thank you so much designated guest has having a pleasure to meet all of you. let's stay connected yeah definitely. I hope you enjoyed that show. If you aren't falling on social media please do where. Ibm podcasts on twitter. Facebook and instagram. Once again just a quick reminder. 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Lick or Treat & Dogs-giving  BarkBoxs $1.6B SPAC. Budweisers spiked lemonade. Social Medias automation.

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Lick or Treat & Dogs-giving BarkBoxs $1.6B SPAC. Budweisers spiked lemonade. Social Medias automation.

"This is nick. This is jack and this is snacks. Daily welcome back. It is monday january eleven. Let's get this out of the way last month in the united states. The number of jobs shrank shrank for the first time. In eight months twenty twenty. What are you doing jack. Let's make this our best one yet. Tbo y for our first story bark box. The birch box for your dachshund is going public. Vias back jack. Fun fact here. They can get subscription. This can happen canines unless your dog is still on the password from some other. Because your dog's not catch jack. Second story gap. Bud light seltzer lemonade. Peach that is actually the latest drink from anheuser. Busch funny thing. We noticed knackers. This is the same strategy as apple did with iphone. It is reminded me the apple's also a for for our third and final story facebook twitter and the rest of social media. Just blocked the precipices. Jack and i are looking at automation. Great for scaling. Jack terrible for public discourse not just as jessica awful do last zach de last actually actually do a lot more but before we jump into. That wonderful makes a story start this week. One hundred and twelve year. Old general motors wants you to know how young it is so for the first time in like sixty five years. Gm got some work. Done the logo for general motors. Just got updated in detroit. The trying to look more like they entered in san francisco last semester. They really didn't take any risks. Here they made the classic move. They went from capital g capital m. to lower case g lark as jack in the logo now used to form square. Remember a lot of hard edges kind of like if you were running with scissors you get cut. It was sharp but they wanted to soften the corners to show these millennials in gems ears. They're approachable plus. They went from navy blue to like a harmless skin care product blue. That's the new tone. According to the press release the whole goal here is to send electric vibes to reflect like the future of gm's electric cars. Hey it's nick. It's jackets just us. We just want to talk to you for a second. The logo your logo. That wasn't the problem if you think about it. General isn't a very inspiring adjective. Exactly the issue was actually your name the logo general. Admission is the cheapest seat in the house. Generally speaking means speaking with no passion. And our buddy. Miriam webster says that general is defined as the main parts but not the details and it's all about the details general motors. Here's the solution. You should have just renamed to the general general. It's much stronger as a noun then as an adjective so true. What did are three stories. Ns next daily snacks. Here ray. Food candy they don't reflect the views of her family. Still live formation just so recommending any securities. It's not a research. Report or investment advice offer or sale of a security next digestible. Business news financial. Llc member favor slash sipc p. c. four. I we're actually. Were laughing out loud about this when earlier. Farc box the original dog subscription box. It's going public in a one point. Six billion dollars spec this year. I think it's the only dog subscription box but our questionnaire is this a company it just a product. It's a fair question for two thousand. Eleven company was founded two thousand eleven. Jack basically a pretty simple concept here. It's a subscription box for your profit puppy. Yes it is comes once a month and now a million people have signed up for you. Drop in twenty three dollars a month. You get free shipping to toys to treats and there's one theme every month. The dog actually smells it. Knicks brother-in-law they have a dog and the dog goes crazy. Win the mailman. Mike approaches the door with the barkat. They know they can tell we. Dare you on subscribe to that thing. I am definitely subscribing to this because when river doesn't have something to chew on i feel like a terrible person. You get that pet parent guilt. You know you get that pet parent. They have themed monthly boxes for example in october. A liquor treat arrives at your door jack out november. You got the dogs giving themed box. This december the box was called home alone last year. Twenty nine thousand nine. They did the muckracker. Also there's something called bar buddy that this company has launched. They're calling it the tinder for dogs. You swipe right to an abandoned cockapoo that's how it goes down impressive. We think tenders the wrong analogy but very good to promote dog adoption. Alright we check out the metrics on this thing cancellation rates for these bark. Box subscription boxes extremely love. Your dogs puppy is looking at you or something. You cannot say no to. Your cuteness is a powerful. Anti churn strategy subscription businesses are fantastic but running a subscription box company is complicated chewy like the sell everything dog stuff online company. They have a subscription program with a wild statistic. This subscription program drives seventy percent of their sales. Seventy percent of sales are customers that just set it and forget it and get refills. Every month and shoe investors they love that recurring revenue from those set. It and forget reliable. Customers but subscription companies aren't necessarily profitable. Yeah birch box subscription boxes. They're struggling to make a profit trying to get you to buy the sephora lipstick. That's in their little birch box and blue apron which tried to do subscription boxes of food that you still have to cook is basically on the mcdonald's dollar menu on wall street but here's what jack and i found fascinating about box added the three hundred and sixty five million dollars of revenue. They brought in last year. Two hundred and twenty one million was gross. Profit that's squeezing a whole bunch of prophet juice out of those melons neck yesterday's because they're selling their own products in these black boxes. It's their own goods. The two and one memory foam dog bed in a donut. Shape jack the bright toothpaste. Those are both produced manufactured by bark bark. And that's how they get the big profits. So jack what's the takeaway for buddies over at barc box. Arbox is neither product nor company. We think it's a future. Learn right jack the whiteboard out here. You got general mills. He got nestle unilever. All of those companies. They bought up smaller dog food companies in just the last few years historically they were food companies but they recently recognized that humans the kind of treating their beagles better than they're basically do but jack developing a direct to consumer subscription business. That is hard jack. How about building a passionate audience around that subscription business hat is really tough jack. How about running that online based subscription startup profitably. I quit. i can't even do it. Yes the hardest thing and that is why unilever acquired direct to consumer startup dollarshaveclub a few years ago because it had to learn how they did it. Big companies haven't been able to learn themselves how to run a direct to consumer subscription company. So most have to learn by buying one that is why bark box could be a future. Learn coalition for our second story all of social media and even ecommerce are boycotting president trump. This week the longer term problem is that social media's automation strategy is failing right so it's been almost a week now. Five people lost their lives and that insurrection. Last week and the reputation of america's democracy was badly damaged for a long period of time. Also we witnessed a double standard in the way. The police treated trump's mob last week. Yes we did compared to the way that police treated the black lives matter protesters this entire past year. You and all that up. This event basically became the straw. That broke social. Media is back in a couple of days tech decided all at once on wednesday and thursday last week that the president must be muted and snacks. Here's the key distinction. You got to keep in mind while lying is protected by free speech inciting violence and endangering the public safety. that's not protected. Nick you know that thing you scroll through the terms and conditions when you're setting up a new account you just click except you don't even read it totem charming. You never see it when it comes to tech platform. there's actually language in their forbidding. You from using the platform to promote violence and we saw that put into action last week with this epic rundown i twitter blocked. Trump's account permanently on friday and facebook has blocked it for the next two weeks and amazon blocked his twitter account so they could not live stream video to people and then pay pal shop fi. They jumped in blocked his ability to sell merchandise and even accept donations and youtube. Change our policy. Instead of simply removing single videos that break their policies youtube will now start blocking entire channels of trump's and shack. How about snapchat and tiktok. They kind of had to make moves after facebook and twitter. They decided to take away. Trump's megaphone as. Well put that altogether and we got ourselves a striking demonstration of tex power in refereeing speech and commerce on the internet. Yeah that's a whole different takeaway for different day. So jack what's the takeaway for today for our buddies over in tech facebook strategy of automation is failing. Yes knackers facebook has a whole bunch of rules about what you can and you can't post for example paid political ads on facebook. Those cannot lie and nobody can promote violence with their posts on facebook so when we look a little bit deeper into facebook. They've got fifty six thousand employees on the other hand they've also got two point seven billion users it's corner ratio there so to monitor all the post. Make sure they're not breaking rules. Each facebook employees would have to oversee the posts of forty eight thousand facebook users across instagram facebook whatsapp. Whatever other apps. It's basically like each employee would have to have their own dominion. Yeah so instead of that. They use artificial intelligence which reads the post that we make and flags the rule breakers so that a human can check them out. But here's the thing as was shown last week that artificial intelligence strategy is failing. Thanks to the new york times. We know that facebook groups were used to organize the attempted insurrection by trump supporters. Last eventually got taken down but only after reporters had to tell the fbi all about thanks to separate reporting from guy named judd leg who runs a great newsletter we know that misleading political ads. Were up this campaign season for days. Viewed by millions of people just like the facebook groups of eventually they get taken down but only after reporters alert the fbi to them. Here's how it seems always go with facebook. Artificial intelligence misses something. Okay check someone finally flags and let them know steph to then. Facebook takes down but only after the damage has been done and that process is all because of automation with no human involvement. It's low-cost and that is why. Facebook is incredibly ridiculously profitable but it is also why the platform has so much misinformation and so much policy breaking content still makes facebook the automation. It's failing for our third and final story. Honestly just in time for dry january. Bud light is launching. A hard seltzer lemonades. Actually a little late for dragic the couple of weeks but that lemonade. Part of the story is actually an iphone. Strategy to jack feels like we we kind of got a pendulum situation here. The pendulum swung from like light beers. Back in the day. Yeah millie five freshman year. We were in college all the way to like heavy quadruple as you had to like. Eat this it was liquid bread. That's the late twenties through until today for me. Well that got intense with beer but then. The pendulum swung back to lighter stuff. And that's where white clock came in white cloth summer. It's kind of health trend. People wanna get drunk for under one hundred calories per drink and go gluten free possible minimum sugar and that basically is why budweiser stock is down. Thirteen percent in the last year because beer sales only grew less than one percent. And that's because the spike seltzer market doubled again last year for the third year in a row little context. We got a sprinkle on here. Snacks hard seltzer growing crazy fast. But still only four percent of the beer market so big beer is still the big player in this market. But they don't like that that tiny little wedge is growing. So darn fast. They didn't like it. So in. Just the last three hundred and sixty five days get how many beer companies have jumped into spike seltzer molson course check corona advert analyst. Natty light which we didn't know could get any lighter now it could apparently that budweiser coca cola is getting into this. And despite all of them jumping to this fun for array of spike seltzer still white claw controls over half the spike seltzer market. Truly controls about a third of this bike seltzer market and the rest is like kind of split between a bunch of your friends and cousin is it just launched some spikes out startups. Now when anheuser busch which is budweiser's parent company. When they first got spike seltzer. They launched bud light strawberry and bud light black. Cherries bike seltzer kind of stuff. That's like on the jolly rancher flavor spectrum. that was the goal but dinner buddies over anheuser. Busch they noticed there were fewer spike seltzer in the lemonade flavor but that that little category was growing faster than the rest was a niche within a niche and that niche of spiked shelter. Lemonade was growing nine times more than it did. The previous year. Anheuser busch decided. That's where we should be. Yes so. They're launching their first bud. Light spike seltzer lemonade. This summer kicking it off. Debut style with the super bowl ad in february. Go big or go home. So jack what's the takeaway for our buddies over at budweiser. It's counterintuitive but segmentation can drive growth. So here's what you think. Jack and i were talking about this or what. You'd think you'd think that simplifying your product offering would be better for like it's easier for the consumer to choose if there's just one thing it's easier for the company to make it if there's just one thing however if a company has the resources to segment then it can launch a specific product for specific types of customers if there is a product just for you your one hundred percent satisfied. You don't after compromise. Every customer gets exactly what they want. Funny thing jack. And i noticed apple. Does this exact thing. When it comes to price it used to be one iphone. That's your only option. Six hundred bucks pretty expensive unaffordable for many now. They've got like a dozen iphone. Starting at four hundred dollars for the sec. But it goes all the way up to the fourteen hundred dollar ruby. Crusted twelve pro. Max plus handcrafted. By tim cook every other tuesday. Now apple used price segmentation to grab more of the smartphone. Market bud light is using flavor and product segmentation to grab more of the spike. Seltzer market. jack can your whip the takeaways for us to start the week bark. Box just got acquired by spec called northern star acquisition corp. soon that company will change their name to bar the box subscription business. It is tough so they could become a learn cuisine. Second-story social media has blocked president trump for encouraging a mob to storm the us capitol but it was their failing automation strategy. That was an enabler in last week's attack for our third story. Bud light spiked seltzer lemonade. Peach earls out the time jack their segmenting despite booze market kinda like apple segments smartphones. Now time for our snack factor the day. This one sent in by silence finley from lovely waco texas where he's a fan of lovely waco texas. The invention of dr pepper occurred in waco texas in eighteen eighty five. It turns out. Dr pepper preceded the invention of coca cola. Buy one single lovely year impressive. There's also a dr pepper museum in waco texas. It turns out also seventy five. Percent of the world's snicker bars manufactured in waco texas waco the city that feeds the world's sweets waco jack. We don't do locale no we. Don't we power chicago snacker. Starting the week with if you haven't yet you can scroll down and we'd love if you drop of five star review and if you're listening on spotify it's super easy to share as a story on her instagram lease. That helps us grow. We love how that looks and we can't wait the tomorrow. See if you now. And before we go happy birthday to emily and lucy among and daughter combo who share the same birthday in hood river oregon. Incredible i heard hood. River is gorgeous especially for mountain biking. Yeah it's supposed to be great. And happy. 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Hashing It Out #43 - Kadena - Stuart Popejoy and Emily Pillmore

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Hashing It Out #43 - Kadena - Stuart Popejoy and Emily Pillmore

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That means that as you're doing your development. They're getting immediate feedback that having to set up anything just your contract as you're doing developments in you'll get results without having to set anything up. That's a big boon for my experience in Barkat relevant because it's really hard to figure out how to set up all of the different smart contracts and Alice's tools and make sure that your virus set up properly much better to just integrate something you're good have commit and get immediate results. If you're Mitch to this. You should be doing spark developments. Goto critic dot IO that C R Y TIC dot IO. Enjoy the show. Injury. All castes worried. Welcome to hashing it out a podcast restocked to the tech innovators behind blocked in infrastructure, and decentralized networks, we dive into the weeds to get at Wyan help people build this technology the problems they face along the way. Homeless alarm the best in the business. Hugh, join their ranks. Welcome back. Everybody. Oh, forty three of hashing it out as always I am Dr Corey petty your host with my co-host, Colin Kuche, say Howdy. Everybody calling. How everybody Colin with some spunk. Actually it now. Today. We're talking again with Cadena as a returning guests from us. We have Emily and steward with us from container. We really are fans of the concept of the project are doing and are interested in what? And how it's how it's painting out. So I guess without further ado, Stewart, Emily, can you give us a quick action? As to how you got involved in the space, and what your role is at Cadena. What continues? Sure, I'll start my name's Stuart Popejoy. It's great to be back on housing it out with you guys really enjoyed discussion last time and looking for talking more. I'm a co founder of Kadena we founded in two thousand sixteen with the private blockchain solution in open source, star smart contract language, and later that year and recently, we launched the tests NAT of our public multi chain, scalable level, one watch chain chain web, which also runs the pack smart contract language. So we're having a lot of fun here. And that's what we're doing. Great. I guess I'll go next. My name's Emily Fillmore. I am the maintain their of the pact smart contract language, and I've been in engineer with Cadena for the past eight or nine months, I think, and I I am a sort of chartered mathematician here working on the the core language as well as the for verification bits. Let's awesome. So Stewart, I believe we kinda whatever your background before you came mostly from belief fintech is, correct. Your talk, you massively, scalable distributed, the financial transaction systems kind you background. Is that correct? Yeah. So building a high volume equity trading system for Jp Morgan that amongst other things included a user programmable language for writing ah benchmark algorithms that informed some of the stuff we didn't packed on. And before that I had been working more on the kind of boutiques offer space building trading software building exchange backgrounds in. Yeah. These are all high frequency systems. It's kind make simple you get onto the Cadena side of why you would have the insights you did. With regard to Cadenas is Dana that Cadena. It's today. It's Dane, okay. Cadenas on. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. It's a it's one of ambitious pronunciations based off the way it looks on. So you've got you've got a it makes you would pursue this project. Consider your experience. Emily, what got you into the space? What what is your background? How did you get in the form of fixation side out? Why are you so good at math? Thanks. I actually got my start in the financial industry. So I got my start right out of college in Utah as an analyst for Goldman Sachs, and I slowly transitioned into the model verification validation space working for the Boston consulting group here in New York City, and eventually fell in love with functional programming where I gravitated toward Haskell as the best application of my experiences, which just happened to naturally sit in this sort of golden mean between logic programming where formal verification sits and the financial industry, which seems to make use of it internally at least to a reasonable enough degree to get a job. And then I came to Kadena 'cause I was very interested in their their tech stack as well. As some of the people that were here like Stewart and one of our is at the director of engineering Doug beard. Who is a a huge name in the house, go space, and like here, we are. Now. That's a nice transition. I think in to guess. Yes. Maybe one of the better ways introduced this whole concept is what is formal forever -cation, and you languages. How is the language choice involved with ability to do so? It's an interesting question. Now, I think it depends on how you define for verification because there are there's there's a lot of sort of ambiguity in the term of formal for one and then fare fixation, meaning, you know, what methods are you actually applying to whatever it is that you're trying to formally verify that actually makes it quote verified. And I think you can split this into a few different levels of what it means to be verified. There's some people that think that you if you have a spec, which says my program is supposed to do this for you know, whatever it is whether it's a program where distributed system or something if things is supposed to work this way. Then if you write a program than it's supposed to work as we say it does. And then there's another level which says not only do you have to have a sort of specification for behavior. But you also. Have to show that through some means whether it's bouncing off of the theory improver or formally specifying in terms of a semantic how your program is supposed to work and verifying it year, those pruder's, and then there's further another section of people who believe that you can only quote, formally verify something if you have a mathematically proven semantic for which you can fully specify language in terms of theory improver and then execute each one of those proofs in terms of the theory improver to show that the the semantics are cracked, and then you derive your entire language from that that specification instead of proofs. So the language has to do with whether or not you're even capable of doing it. And and what is what is packed different in such a way that? You're able to then say you can formally verify. Thanks. Right. So this is a subtle point about programming languages in general. You can't mathematically prove or verifying on determined him. You can only verify the parts of your language, which are total. What we call total in the space and by total. We mean, they reduced to a single value, which is a concrete value and turn completeness turing completeness have a lot to do with this. So turing complete languages are languages, which can admit non deterministic behaviors at the boundaries of the program. So for instance, recur cing indefinitely or talking over a network, or, you know, whole bunch of other types of behaviors like that which deal with not exactly concrete values, but like operations that can sort of indefinitely. Hang or throw errors, which you your programs can't really handle unless you have like a a way of handling exception. Whereas turing incomplete refers to. Only those programs which terminate to a single value. Right. So when you model the mathematical semantics of this, there's no real, I guess principled way of handling those non deterministic values, which means that you can only ever verify the behavior of those programs which actually terminate right? So wait a minute. Wait a minute. Actually. I don't think I quite follow that. So actually just say that one more time for me because what what what I heard was that scene. Your definition of the different touring Clinton touring. Please turn complete does necessarily have to turn. Well, this is my actually this is more my understanding of it. Maybe you can help me fear science background. But like the way you said, it didn't quite seem to jive how I'd normally say it in that turning complete is kind of like, you don't it. It's you know, it's going to terminate because you're operating on basically finite boundaries as you can't have infinite four loose because not infinite amount of data. You can't have it's not a long. Infant tape of ticker tape of of information, even possible within the system, and so you know, avenged it's going to terminate. So what am I missing there in? Why do you make 'em? I did. I misunderstand what she said her, right? No. That's that's a sort of meta argument though, that says in the real world our programs will always terminate because there's a finite amount of data. But when you specify the stuff in terms of mathematical properties. You consider real just does it missing or admitting like, you know, infinite boundaries, incident tapes and infinite programs, right? So to say something turing complete is to say that in this sort of idealized world, you have the ability to model a tape which is infinite which will run infinitely. That's it. This is the way the machine actually works means that you don't have something that can recur or lasts forever within like the functions. Who cares about the ticker tape? You can always have if tickertape, but like like infinite loops definitely means that it's a it's it's not a Terry. Incomplete language. Yes in so does recur Shen and the ability to append data to a particular array itself would allow you to do that. So if you could actually or penned a piece of data they Ray in the middle of loop. Then you've basically extended the length of loopless that loop has Terminator which is dependent on these kind of things allow you to extend the length of the tape, and that kind of extension ability is what I understood would cause turn completeness now from what I understand for packs. There's there's is it's basically your operating on knowns only knowns, and you can't have loops which triggers infinitely are over over a indeterminable length of data, and you can't have calls which functions was called themselves. And so that's just based off our conversation Stewart before. Is that inaccurate assessment of what you guys are doing there? Yeah. That's that's fairly accurate. Although there was a point here, which I think is a an interesting one just for your understanding of turn complete versus incompleteness recurs doesn't mean that you have the potential to have non terminating recurring. You can have things which are recur sive which terminate you just have to provide proof at each step that the arguments are are decreasing to the point where they get to you know, one single step. And then that single step is like the final step in your your recurring. That is exceptionally interesting to me. So is there there's an ability to actually do that where you can actually say I could prove for all given inputs that this particular rehearsal function will not add information to steps always reduced zero. Right. And that's that's that's sort of bearing on on what we're going to get to eventually, which is witnesses to what we call excess ability. Where we can actually reach the code that. We're going to get to provide proof that each step that we can continually get their provides proof that our programs will terminate. So these witnesses to termination are the things that that define whether something is actually trying incomplete versus actually turing complete right? If you're complete you don't have a witness to termination. At all one thing. I wanted. I one just jump in here and say, too is that I think one thing we're getting which is an interesting subtle point on pact. Is that packs approach deterring incompleteness was motivated before we sought to admit the entire the ID? We didn't even know that we'd be able to admit the entire language to formal verification that was something that kind of a rival based on our design decisions. And so one of the things Emily's discussing there is the fact that you can have recurs in, you know, there are there are ways to admit recurs in that make for a well behaved program that terminates. I'm one of the reasons why pact is even more strict than that is simply because my experience in Ryan in designing languages for everybody. Not just programmers is that non programmers, full programmers. Screw up occurs in all the time. Yes. The number one of and end, they're the hardest bugs track down as well. So so the idea there is that. Hacked in addition to you know, having this nice feature being formerly verifiable wants to make it very hard for a programmer to make even trivial bugs of the nature. Where you're you know, what are you trying to get done? Do you really wanna call function on it self because if you subtly change state in that mode? It's it's very hard to load that into your brain. Whereas something simpler, where you're operating over a list, which is something the pack encourages allows you to kind of move the problem into data, which you know, you see this. This is more general program can see this all over for instance, in game programming where they try to move out of intense logic and try to express as many things as they can in kind of a raise the data for many reasons in this. We found this with pack to that you actually get better performance out of your system. A lot of these same things that Seema steer on the on the face of it. In the case of packed allow us to inline code on. Netflix. We can cut that out. A couple of seconds. So in the case of pack. This kind of thing allows us to you know, inline code aggressively. And you know, there's just there's a myriad amount of benefits that come out of this and formal verification emerged quickly as something that, you know, was that we wanted to explore and then it was very fruitful. So I think this is that the conversation about recurs in the larger conversation occurs. It's going to be very interesting. If we get a chance to touch on some of the other efforts and formal verification and blockchain outside, and we've got plenty of time to kind of get into that of before we do that. Let's let's you brought up something that is interesting to me. That's the idea that I write inaugur them. And I have personal expectations of how this hour them. Not only works, but also performs. I have never used. A former verified language, I'm gonna lay that out there. I don't know very many. It's not something that comes up, you know, in my day to day. It's I'm going to interact with pack packed. How do I write? Let's start with the very basics. How do I write from user experience perspective a piece of code Intel the system, I really wanted to do this, and it can actually verify that is there is that the missing the intent of what you're saying. Or is that something you can actually do what does that look like that's precisely the intended system in. And I think the thing that's gonna make packed unique is not going to be so much. It's formal properties. Although they are you know, Emily can talk more about some packs. Interesting formal properties. But it's the fact that hacks shape of makes this stuff so tractable on the easiest way to do. It is go to pack dot ca Danna dot IO and start using our web up all nursing example. In their that. I don't know if we wanted to share a screen, but I just wanna make sure I know the name of the example contract there. Anyway. Okay. Yeah. So was on there. There's an example contract at is. I think it's called formula replication, or it's got something like that in its title. And what it shows you it's a single function smart contract. Oh, no. It's the one that comes up when you go to so you just go to pack dot, it's the first one to come up, and there's a before the actual code of the function, which is this absolute value function. That's got this really weird bug in it that basically is a quadrajet equation based on the input and win that when you solve that too negative one or when you solve that to some random number. That's in there, some weird number it'll return negative one. Otherwise, it does ABS right. The point is is that all you have to do to test. That is put in a property that says that it's an. CBS function. Right. Well, what do you want it to do you want the result to be graded enter equal to zero? So you put that property in there, and the formal verification system finds this magic number. I mean, the the function is basically like. It's it's some ridiculous thing where it's like multiplying and dividing than finally uses this constant which is like five hundred and twenty two billion eight hundred and thirty years. Like, it's dividing by that. So it's it's a number. You couldn't it's pretty hard to do in your head. And it it just discovers this number and says for this one value your property will fail and this is done through people would typically called fuzzy, right? It's not just it's thrilling thousands or millions in moods guesses to try and find this thing it's doing through like algebraic manipulation is correct. It it's doing it by turning the program into a model, and then examining the space of all database states and all possible inputs and finding a model. That's the thing about our system is at finds a model. It doesn't find every model. It finds you a model that falsifies it. And then it says here, it is and gives it to you, and then you can test it you put it into the function and outcomes negative one. So if you give it a it will literally go be able to find that one number in from zero to index that would that would literally feel the entire program. It's worse with pack because packed actually supports more than max packed has has. No, no. I mean, packed has has uses the Haskell injure type, which is I mean, I guess at the end of the day. It's it's machine dependent. But it's it's it's way bigger than like two hundred fifty six eight word. Let's put that way. Holy. Yeah. So I mean, it's examining a huge space, and unlike fuzzier, I mean, fussers are great. But you know, if you've ever worked with them, they don't always come back with your buck. You know, they all beauty verification is that it's it's mathematically true in the whole curious about is like and complex contracts or multiple smart contracts, or whatever you call them impact to her. That search face grows exponentially with like, maybe the number of transactions number of steps you have to get through to search the entire space does that become a computational burden over time to stick to snow and of simplicity. No. And the reason why is not through any magic that. We're doing all the Z three. The back end. We use is incredibly fastened is noted as being the the fastest essence he's all out there and was close source until three years ago. Microsoft open sourcing was a huge gift to the open source to me at some. But the way the way pack deals with it is the fact that we, you know, if you wanna write something if you wanted to formally verify your contract, call some other contractor, call some other contract because some other contract, and they're all writing to the database in line, and you wanted to verify something that comes out of that long chain of things and potentially you could get into a proof that would take longer, but the, but the way if. From a software engineering approach, if you think about it that's pretty unsafe way to write a contract, you know, like you'd probably want to write a contract. That knows what it's going to be getting a pretty good idea. What those are going to be and then wants to verify what it doesn't data. So all I'm trying to say is that the same approach is used for goods offer engineering anywhere else. Modulars ation, you know, separation of concerns benefits, your formal verification layer by limiting the space of what it has to search. So the whole question of like Lincoln to other contracts is a very deep question that pact has a very principle solution for on for insurance code stability. But one of the things that since pact is free text on the blockchain, you know. You can go look at the actual codex cues, including the proofs means you can take those you can take that those code down and run the proofs on that as well. So it's really kind of broken up in that regard. So that while. Well, yes, you would be the form of application system does run through all your linked code. It's always verifying the entire system again, turning, and we can only do this because it's turning incomplete. Most languages do. Not support Lincoln, you know, like a million other libraries, but we have to all this stuff impact is once you load, your code all that stuff is Lincoln, and the formal verification versus all of that. And and we have yet to see anything take, you know, the thing to realize about, you know, complex smart contracts is that they may be complex in terms of their business logic. But chances are they're not that complex in terms of the rock computation that's going on because it's just too expensive to do that stuff and watching and that makes sense and it actually from from a contract contract perspective because each individual contract is formally verified. You can probably just treat them as isolated functions of themselves of thinking, it'd be very very difficult to I mean, very very easy to. To just say, hey, this is a known, and formerly verify as that contract is unknown guarantee. Just because it's impact it's written a certain way in it. Here's to certain properties. So Emily, I have a question for you. If by the getting a little feedback on the Mike if somebody's got a measure all needed might be gonna lie. Emily. I I got a question for you. How does formal verification work? Let's start with that. Because like we're going into the user experience side of things from a developer's perspective and that was intentional because really wanted to tell the story first before we got into the nitty gritty details. What we really wanted you on the program for all, right? So we have an audience of really highly skilled technical engineers who really wanna learn from you, and I just from from stir beginning square one. How did you have you build us in like what does it take? What parts are involved in this? This is such a huge question. So give us a course. All right. All right. We'll start I guess we can start with like big improvers like cock and Agta which CO Q cock is sort of. Theorem prove from the nineteen eighties built on this one version of the Lambda calculus called calculus of inductive constructions, which is like a fully dependent types just beautiful system. That can prove basically anything you want. That's in the subset of constructive mathematics. And the idea is you start from a language, which is sort of the broadest generality, which which caucus in this case, and you can write statements that look like mathematical statements using this this like, it's it's almost brand new foundation for mathematics, you sort of define your universe from the ground up using this core language, which can express all the things you want to express in constructive. Mathematics like universal and existential quantification like functions like how they interact with variables. And and so on in. You basically build your entire mathematical universe from scratch, which is what they've done now something like Z. And that's that's basically like if you can express something mathematically or constructively in of constructive mathematics. Then you can probably write it in cock. And that's what people do if they want like like simplicity did this or Tesco's. Did this actually was I think was it Mickelson some one of their Mickelson contract contracts. I think they modeled entirely in terms of cock, which is, you know, mathematically, sound you can running the program is the equivalent of you know, verifying that the proof is correct. And if you can model something in this and it runs, then you've effectively said, correct statement and constructive mathematics, which is really really cool now something like S T solvers, they support certain kinds of theories. So if you wanna think about like, the what is this t- stand for? So satisfy ability months you'll oh series. So it looks for a like, what are the prologue is just sat right? Yeah. I think so. Yeah. So it's like the next level up from something like pro. So theories in that that sense mean what theories do the does with your improve her actually support? And in the case of Z three. I think it's like things like real number arithmetic integer arithmetic certain kinds of Polly no meal arithmetic. Stuff like that basically up through. I think what first order predicate calculus like four all and existential quantify here's in symbolic bullying calculus. So if you can write a statement that looks like for all x there exists. The why such that, you know, some predicate Z three will be able to take a look at that statement. And if x and wire in the spaces that can consort verify, then it will be able to run around, and and look to see if there's a model that satisfies the negation of that theory, which is exactly what what that example that Stewart was talking about with packed where it will run around and look for not greater than or equal to zero at which is less than zero and it will produce a witness to the unsatisfied. Satisfy ability of the negation of the statement that you just made which is it. Turns out to be you know, for various reasons. Algorithm, ikley quicker and less complex studio within actually proving the whole class of things that are satisfied by by the statement yet. No that makes sense because you don't want to traverse the entire, you know, possible search face, you wanna find that one case, it doesn't I I'm surprised there's method to do that though to me that that that's that's that's the part that blows my mind, and that's the part of really hoping you could get into because I don't understand how that works. I can understand force part of it. I can even understand more like a more. You know, careful selection of data to to to slick down information that can actually find find something that's a candidate for being wrong. But this is not even doing that is blowing past all of that just going straight to the answer. This is where it fails. It only has to find one negation to prove that you're is wrong. And it doesn't have to find all of them. It just says the fine one. How does it frigging do that? I wanna give shot at this. That's the way I currently understand things as appropriate. Mathematicians have been doing this with with proofs like bath proofs for for centuries. Right. And it's you constructed algebra that's built up axiomatic statements via soom these things to be true. Then you can say, you know, based on that based on those Xia GMs these truths. We're going to define these these constants that live inside these domains excellence between so and so forth while since before so on and so forth. And then you say now, I'm going to say because I'm gonna say this statement is true. And then mathematicians can work backwards from all the axioms that the build up up based on what you said was true from the foundation. This can't be right because I've I've built up all of these true statements from the core of things that basically equals an inequality. So this thing eagles this. And also, this thing doesn't equal this at the same time, which means that it's it's just doesn't exist. Well, that's that's true. Yeah. Doing it faster. Well, essentially about faster. That's that's I the reason why I'm blown away. Because what you just said is actually kinda hand lady mathematician, spend their entire lives working on proves. Sometimes, you know, like this is not like just something that they just pull out of there. There's a bunch of creative insight. It feels like a lot of times. Yes, it can be reduced logic. Once you have the answer. You can absolutely prove it. But like a lot of this stuff is very like proves her not trivial in half a century of work in this field. Like since the sixties people have been working on this stuff in basically, like how do we translate you know, implication into an earth medic statement in a certain kind of Lambda calculus? How do we translate entire strings of Bouillon predicates into computers, speak, basically, and it all comes down to having a very. Strong core language, which can actually express a subset of mathematics, which is the Lambda calculus in most cases. So there's kind of a famous theorem sitting in the space called the curry Howard, ice morphism or the curry Howard limbic ice morphism. If your more recent which says that there is a a a correspondence as a sameness a degree of sameness to the way, people talk about logical propositions and the way they talk about programs for specific kinds of calculate on computers. So things like function types correspond, really neatly and actually are sort of the same as an implication. You give me an A, and you've got to be whereas dysfunctions correspond really nicely with co products in our like Haskell or something like an either data type you have either the thing on the left. The thing on the rate, and you know, all the theorems associated with that or products in form of tools in these statements all sort of translate, you know, really really nicely into computer speak, and you can build an entire mathematical universe by exploiting this ice morphism and results from you know, logic and results from computer science and intermingling the to in order to create this this verifiable space, which is basically what we're doing this whole time. And actually, you can do this in any language like Java script if you want it. Well, let me let me let me make this a little more concrete for one moment them. All right. So to me, it's very easy to understand. I guess the possibility even though it's still mind blowing the possibility of finding that one thing that negates a particular thing to disprove a particular function, the the converse of that is that you need to verify that it doesn't have that, you know. And so let's say I wanted to code up a something that takes a map of any kind and will. Of our? I guess. Yeah. L let's just called him half. Because it's that's what people commonly understand it as, but it's basically a graph with regions and we wanted determine whether or not you can use four colors to color this. Okay. You need to only find now before color theme is proven like it's was proven admitted to thousands. But it took all the way that that long for mathmetician, economists was actually converse his hand in that to prove the four color theorem. So what would that what how would a formally verified language look at that in? How would they know whether? Yeah, I mean that is always true based on the algorithm, you give in that. It actually satisfies a four color for color mapping, is that makes sense. I the one thing I just jump into say that that does fall into the realm of classic like end p complete problems and things like that. And there's any number of things. Might do that computer where you'd employ dynamic programming or you'd employ machine learning or you'd employ, you know, any number of complex algorithm techniques and being able to prove properties, you know, to take the next step and prove properties of whatever nifty approach like, for instance, dynamic programming is, you know, his very nifty. I mean, it it it it manages to take a, you know, to shrink a search space tremendously. But it's an optimization, right? It's not the raw problem is both simpler and harder. So if he wanted to admit that formal verification, you'd have to decide are you talking about the raw problem itself because I might be quite easy to express and say some things about or are you talking about a specific solution that will get the job done for you with certain asymptotically that gets quite complex, and you might have a hard time. You know? I mean, I form of Africa. Good certainly aid you there. But you know, I think you'd have a hard time talking about that in general because necessarily your concerns are going to be, you know, and they're even things, you know, people are obviously proving things about algorithms. But you know, that's just a space of computer engineering that has its own concerns and form verification is more about the techniques. You know, the formality is more about the techniques you do to kind of shrink your search space and less about the semi cents than the problem. You're trying to solve which might he. Both more elegant and more intractable. So it's just trying to prove that whatever you're doing will not produce a wrong issue result. So if you put a tolerance, you know acceptance in there like we can have one that's ordered or whatever that would be that's two colors at a boarding. But we can't have more than that. Would that be something? Like, I don't understand quite the way. I've understood in terms of how other other tooling works that that offers global verification is that you give it a list of various the more variance would give it the better. It is the reason about whether or not those things ever broken based on what you wrote. So you say like this thing will always hold true. This thing will always hold on true. There's no scenario where this thing. She'd ever equal this thing and the more that listen various, you give it the easier. It is from verification to say, Yep. All that all that is withheld within the confines of the thing that you built is that decent way of kind of explaining what the whole goal is here. I think one thing that makes this conversation that threatens to make this conversation overly abstract is that you know, as Emily was saying this work has been going on. I mean, there's been tremendous work in the space. You know, the work on formal verification is never really stopped. But when you're in computer science, the problem in engineering, the problem is that computer engineering has not advanced nearly as far, you know. You know, in terms of like formal things it's like we've advanced in terms of like rock computing power. We've Branston terms lots of things. But in terms of as programmers there hasn't been a ton of like amazing innovation since the sixties or the seventies. You know, a lot of the programming languages. We use are very similar to see or lists for these things that came out a long time ago. And the reason why I say that is not just not to is to say that one of the things it's weird is that, you know, kind of programmers whose day job it is to solve problems with the computer for a normal human beings. A lot of them don't have access to formal verification as a tool, and that's one of the things that we really wanted to do with pact is try to make it that the, you know, the program who doesn't understand all these things that we're talking about Ken still say something like, well, gosh, I know that this thing I know that my balance column can never go blow zero. I just know that and if. If you can give me a way to express that. And it can show me show me where I'm wrong, and I can trust in that system. Then that becomes very useful. And that's a very unusual thing. Like, I never seen it ever. In anything. I've done in twenty five years offer engineering. I've never liked prince packed similar Davis program. No one ever offered me something for when I write my like wait for oh, also, we'll find all your bugs for you. Like nobody ever offered that. Everyone was hell terrible era. Messages are. Yeah. Well, and you know, and then and then the practices unit testing, of course, but unit testing is. Of course, the program are trying to think of every era case, they can think of and then the next best thing is static analysis and pleasant, and those are all really good things to do, of course. And those might find you things, but those still require you to think of how you want to model the domain of your program. And what's so nice about? This thing is that for once. We can talk in abstract way by obstruct. I mean general about the entire space of what the program is trying to do and then actually leverage a computer to help the the what I say to people sometimes is that non programmers may not realize how primitive the tools programmers work with our computers. Look like magic non programs. So but also non program is probably think, oh, well, don't you just use the computer to help you find? And it's like, no, we don't we do everything by hand. We write all our tests by hand. And that's one of the things that like is. I mean, as you know, just from a conceptual view, so exciting about what's going on the pack is the idea that like well now you can now you can't actually use some these tools, and maybe one day these things that were that, you know, that calling an Emily are are hashing out here will become more common knowledge to the work day programmer because they'll be so much more familiar with using. To like programmers are much more familiar with the intricacies of TCP IP, which has complicated. But if you're if you're job is writing server applications or full stack stuff one of these years, you're going to need to know something about TCP IP. So you're probably going to deep dive on that. So hopefully for verification will be like, oh, man. Do I hope so? Yeah. I mean, I don't see why can't just have a every language can have little subset of formal verification. This function is formally verified, you know, put it in a decorator and just stick it over the function in a behaves a certain way, and then this little subset of calculation would be always formally verified. I mean that just seems like an easy language feature that particular languages understood probably implement. I don't know. Problem is admitting your language to formal verification. And this is I think it's worth actually, I think, you know, in the interest of time, we might want to gloss over some of the things that are happening in solidity land and EDM land, which Emily can talk about about his that is much closer to the model of Java script or Java or something like that. And what you would actually because that's what they're attempting to do. So I mean, maybe Emily give us a by the way. I wanna apologize didn't need to be reductionist. When I said easy. I know it's very very difficult. But I feel like if we engineered ourselves in that direction. There could be standard set of tools that people be more familiar with. No, I think that's the whole von Neumann to be, you know, like our entire our entire machines are Bill wrong that we built everything around this like turning carpet, and as opposed to you know, trying to build machines that are actually more predictable. Well, well, I think people I mean if you've read that paper on punctual programming from the late seventies. I forgot if it's on. Raucous, John eighteen seventy seven I think, right. And that one, you know, he really late makes this case that like you're doing it wrong. Like like, nobody listened to you know, worse better. That's that's where we're at now. And it's and you know, it would it would be great. If we could move into this better Brown, but we do have things like Avium and people wanna proof things about so. Yeah. Yes. So I mean, this is kind of what what's going on with the K framework. Solidity starrewards. This solidity star as you know, the by code is is turning complete. And they want to provide some form of air fixation to the language is built on on the in this case solidity, and they found that they actually can't verify the entirety of the bike code. They have to defer just to the turing complete subset of EDM bike code and identify that with a sub language of solidity, which is the turing incomplete sub language and in order to prove that solidity actually produces the bike code both ways. Like the by code produces the same solidity script as the solidity script produces in terms of code. They have to restrict themselves to this sub language of each of the languages, and then they can form the the. Proofs for verification which show that the the to actually do produce each other is that what people typically referred to as intermediate language intermediate reputation. Yes. Yes. Kind of in in an intermediate language if like a a sort of undecorated ING or Cushing the language to fewer sort of intermediate structures. So that you you can do the same stuff that you wanna do in a slightly more principled way sort of like in a lowered version of language in this case, you just have to make sure that your program is in that subset of solidity or in that subset of the by code, which they can actually address. So it's not quite an intermediate representation. It's more just like a convention of you can't verify anything unless you are in subs. Okay. A lot of times lowered representations are actually less safe. And you're usually taking the safety properties of the higher level language cruising things and then saying because of this I can emit faster more unsafe languages like el-avia them, or, you know, machine language, so that that's the usual kind of like an IRA usually less slightly less principled, slightly less safe. But simpler easier for machine to chew through. Whereas here what we're talking about is kind of a principled subset that is basically trying to it. It's basically trying to wrangle a language into something that we can reason about when the language wasn't designed that way in the first place. Yeah, we actually go over a lot of this in the the EDM is fundamentally unsafe blog posts that we put out over the summer which or so it was a sober knows fall back in the fall. And. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Sure. A lot of the the solidity stuff is trying to get towards a space where they can see something meaniful about the programs, but finding that they've coded language, which is too broad and to basically unfaithful to admit a formal specification, which is a meaningful specification, right and catering. We're kinda does this as well. We're actually we I I know a few people that are working on K framework like Martin Luth fall who's done incredible work on. I think the what is it? The reach ability proofs in that area. I think he presented it SPF. I remember correctly, but they're identifying from an operational semantic, basically specification of how programs should work trying to use k framework to verify that programs actually do what they say. They're supposed to do much in the same way that pack does except they're working interring incomplete or complete land. And it's very very difficult to verify that programs. Do what they say. They're going to do in that such that situation such that it takes minutes to verify simple arithmetic, which is a consequence of these structure of the language itself. So we take the view that. You're because of because of gas, and because you have a limited stack unlimited data let Cohen was saying earlier in the show, you you're actually not using any of the properties of turing completeness that you think you are in your language, but you are admitting all of the flaws and non verifiability of turing complete languages into your language such that you find yourself in a situation where you have a Jillian formal verification engines, which are sort of slow interesting concepts, but slow and not terribly usable. Whereas packed can do the same thing in microseconds. I would assume that the decision to make to model things after Java script and created a language like solidity, necessarily, a computational one. This more of a social one in terms of trying to attract developers to start building on the system, which has its own which has its own benefits are consequences. But in hindsight. Based on how we're seeing this technology grow and be used what it could be used for that. May that may not been a good decision. And you could see that that kind of manifesting in the way that people are looking at different language models to use such as viper, which is python based which by the way is beautiful language. You know, so the yeah. No, I think I really wanna go to one more question. We really wanna go to chain web. Okay. I do have one question at this point in my have another. But. What is the performance hit for doing former verification in deploying a contract from a from a? Gration? Off because there's no because we don't formally verifying the blockchain earlier -cations option, I meant in a CD way. Oh developing, and I and I I want to I wanted to play new code how long does it take for me to know that this codes? Correct. It's basically you're continually doing it. So packed uses these things called rebel files, which are basically test scripts and the ideas, you just call called verify in your module, and it's constantly verifying, so pack this Paxton models. You basically start writing pack in other words impacting and do what's called test development? What are your running? Get out of my block not disturbed. But then you can also do kind formerly driven development where you could write your properties, I have those tests fail and then implement code if you wanted to it's also the, you know, the language is really quite rich, and we'd be happy to send you the introductory piece on it the property line, which that's inside of that's embedded inside a pack. But the idea there is that most of what we wanna do when you think of the bugs that have been flicking solidity. They're not rocket science bugs their exploits on on code. That's supposed to be simple. And isn't you know, like an ear? See twenty bucks is not a rocket science bug. If somebody who is able to figure out that something that they did admitted some kind of recurs in loop or something like that. So things are unavailable to buy construction impact the properties, you writer, and therefore going to be you know, that much simpler, so. So the place where you could get in trouble impact, if he wanted if it was gonna spend out of control if you for instance, like you decided you wanted to parse long strings text in your smart contract language, and I would say you're an idiot just on the face of it. If you wanna do that. But you know, people do programmers whatever they're going to do. And then they're going to be like, wait a minute. The Parnell verification system is taking forever to like go through the entire universe of really long strings that will happen. You will have you know? So there are things that I my assertion is that the kinds of things you wanna do on the blockchain happened to be really easy to verify like, you know, usually, it's ledger activities. Those things are there's just not a million things you need to verify or predicate logic to sing I wanna make sure that you know, this person that will always checking that this person signed this transaction if we're going to do this operation on the database always. It can do it in a sleep. It's just simple predator logic done before you can even mention it. Man. Part of this. I'm kind of curious you mentioned the way package zoos, and what is capable of doing relative to other programming languages is this something you're hoping it's going to take off outside of the blockchain world. We talked about it alive because it's so useful for database applications in the sense that hacked if you wanted to write a really principal back end for your job script application, you download pack today, which got a sequel light engine in it. Run packed Asha, which is our web rests server giving you are blocked the eye and write a job script application. This is what are Democrats do? And it's a really it's packed as fast. You know, it it does somewhere in the order of ten to twenty thousand database operations, the second sequel light is great. I don't know if you're familiar with that. That's great. Yeah. It's amazing. So like, you get this great principle language, you can prove things about it. And in truth, most, web, apps aren't doing anything that complicated. I mean, you know, member we're not talking about like, Google maps. We're talking about like, you know, a storefront or a shopping cart or whatever you might be doing, you know, a task tracker, a scheduler just something that like, you know, like schedulers good example, you might have something you might have some great dynamic programming thing that solves your scheduling problem. But the end of the day, you wanna make sure was stored. Right. And you want to make sure it does all the right things that data and doesn't let somebody right? The wrong thing, you could use pack to do all that. And who I think would be terrific solution. So, but that's, you know, that's I think blockchain is a very it doesn't seem like, but I actually it's very satisfying space to work in terms of building gaps because I actually think it's a it's a nicely constrained space. And it's exactly the space pack is designed for I think some of the concepts and blockchain need to make their way out into the larger programming community. Namely the bicker. This of public rip dog Raphy to to safeguard systems is just better security men. Most forget stop logging into your application start using ledger wallet or whatever use a hardware wallet use a net. UB key that is going to be. That's the way the future's stateless authentication through public. He's and packed. Is there for you? It's ready to do all that. But I don't think programmers are there. Yet they still want to log into their database. They still want their insecure Loggins because that's what users are used to. You know, this stuff isn't as everybody knows wallets are very unorganized. So right now. So those things get solved, and I see us moving into a a world of safer user, applications that don't necessarily run on a blockchain at which point pact. Is you know is purpose built for that kind of thing. Yeah. I think we're all line with that business. Specially our listeners on this show. We've we've we've seen the benefits and we see where it's going. It might not be there yet the user experience might be a huge barrier to adoption, but we see the benefits already. So I think that's great. But one other thing that people have a problem with is the fact that they can't have certain skill building guarantees. So I was wondering if as as the blame segue. I'm sure, but can you talk a little bit about chain web? We had the program before to talk about it. It's part of the. Kadena? Platform as low as well as packed out by call the platform or not I don't know what the right term for dollar. We call it a hybrid blockchain platform because we talk about solutions that can live on private chain and public chain go back and forth, and that's ideal in my mind. That's what I kind of hoped plasma would have been. But but yeah, so that was probably one of the most interesting conversations he had one of the very early guests curb. I think he might been like episode five or something. And you know, the reason is because I watched the videos on spec- last year and wills talk a popped out at me immediately. As I was like, we need to book these guys because chain web was just fricking cool from it's not just graphics. You got some pretty cool crafts. I think it's still get your t-shirt aware of every once in a while. But it's a cool t-shirt. It looks for grad. It looks like I love it looks like some sort of slice out of like a time scifi move. In about time travel. Anyway. But the the thing about data that I that I love is just your approach skill -bility is baked in be extensible and see of novel in that is still relies on proof of work, but scaled scaled down version of it. I think it'd be best considering time constraints that we referenced the other other episode if we wanna get into the nitty gritty details about chain road. But instead, let's just take up that conversation from where where we left off before in tells what's been going on with the chain web. Because system who's using it in what invasions if you made him eight what problems if you found in developing it because I guarantee there were some in the area that you've had adjusted so yeah, what's the development like been on that was designed design going and have there been any changes since we last talks? Yeah. Great. I mean, you said who's using it? I'm just a touch briefly on that the the most receptive audiences people who basically want to leverage crypto as a space for launch and financial products or for representing new types of assets. But wanna do it in a safe way? And don't wanna be hampered by scale -bility concerns and want to have tight controls around things like, you know, KYC, you know, your client and have a have a smooth gateway onto a private system because so much stuff shouldn't really be on a public blockchain when you're, you know, like, but it it all comes down to scale building in the end because you know, every every program that runs on that is based on with bitcoin of fac, and or with, you know, now with the theory with his back in is basically a ticking time on of, you know, your program getting popular enough to be like cryptic eighties. And then the whole thing slows. Down. So yes, so chain web's design has not changed. And in fact, we just our paper got accepted for the name of the conference that proves chain web security properties. In terms of the ability for a malicious minor to be able to censor users chain web is intuitively. Correct. In terms of how it checks hashes. But the thing that we wanted to see was would it be possible for attackers to meaningfully attack? The live -ness of this stone to you know, to create things like censorship. And some of these things that we've seen alga rand some of the other, you know, interesting research into kind of Blockchain's general and their security properties beyond just something like double spanned, but to things like censorship that chain web offers an incredibly resilient solution for so that that's that papers coming shortly. We're very excited. About that. But the other the one of the main interesting things that's coming up now. Well, I mean, the big news to share, of course, that we launched our tests net at the end of March which was a big compliment in in a really great shot in the arm for the team. We public tested or is it just a closet right now a close test net. The next version is coming out at the end of may, and that is going to be invite participation by invite and then after that it's going to be full public. So these are coming out in like in every two month clip, I won't tell you. We're gonna make a big announcement of our live day. But it's it's not it's it. We're not going do million of these. Let's put it that way. There's a finite number of tests that's going to happen in we're going to go into production and one of the most interesting things about that. Is that in something Emily, I work, particularly hard on is that the coin logic inside of chain web is actually handled. By pack smart contract. So this means that all gas transactions all coin rewards, and then all transfers between users happened in a pack smart contract that is formally verified. Now, that's nifty, of course, from a dog fooding point of view. And it also means that we won't have some the ergonomic issues that fear him encountered between years see twenty and the and the Therion token and sell in the sense everything can use the same interface. But also it revealed that one of the things that always part was part of chain. What was the the fact that we needed to burn coins on one chain in order for them to show up on another thing we needed a way to move coins? Ground, and we always knew that we were gonna use simple payment verification. You know, Merckel proofs where chain can find the Merckel proof, the image of the of the Merckel hash from the other chain that way you can trust us verification. That Aucoin wasn't he'd burnt on the other chain. And now, you can create it on this chain in the system conserves mass. He can't have a double spin. And so on so. So forth. What emerged was that? The very technique that we use to do that in. The coin contract is is an automatic to step transaction that will be available to every smart contractor Balbir. So every year see twenty we'll be able to do this any asset that lives on chain web will be easy. In fact, it'll be entirely automatic for you to burn an asset on one chain and move it over to the other train. We always knew that this was going to be possible. We didn't realize it was going to be this easy. It's it is a primitive. It's actually it isn't that's coming out and be one. It packed has these things called PACS, which are multi-step. So we have functions, and then we have packs impacts are multi step functions. And it emerged that the shape of the most step function was the natural shape for a two step transaction across chains and allowed it to be automated. So that now you can have a trust Lissette changed from one exchange. It's as simple as writing one of these functions, and you can even do formal barrique shin proofs about the state that emerges on either side. So actually kind of have a question about that. How's that managed because I from my recollection of how you met Matthew chains out not every not every chains connected to every other chain. So how do you MAC the event? Really? Yes. Very important property of chain web. Is that it uses an expanded graph? That has a property called the. Diameter which has a maximum shortest path to any other chain. And it's very important. That's actually what the t shirt shows. Right. As get up to the edge. The transaction. That's in the middle. You know, one your it is travelling through time. So in the past the, you know, the confirmation depth, if if you wanna see it as that is when your transaction has been image into every other hash in the entire network. And you know, and the part going forward is how long it will take you for your transaction to show up and every other one, and that's very important because it means that it does mean that like if you want to move assets from one chain, it will take that much longer for that second transaction to be possible. Because it that chain won't have seen your transaction. If it's not right next to it. It won't have seen that transaction. To the things like this. Because I think a lot of people have some intuition to that. Especially based on the subset of people were in the space is that. Just because that may be the case where takes longer to move from one chain together doesn't mean it's it's it's a bad thing. Could think of it in terms of like a yes, you're you're you're video character from one realm to another and some ability massive multiplayer online game. Right. You don't do that all the time. But you can and it's useful in some cases. And so like the fact that you're able to do that as a primitive, and you can verify that your character will show up with all the things that had previously is a very good thing to know. Right that it's safe and that it actually works. I mean, that's the I think an interestingly enough in SBC Italic spoke, and he talked about two, oh, and how they're going to move resources around their shot at network, and it turns out they're gonna use a very similar approach. I mean, the difference is that we issued Tesna this like a month ago. And God knows when they're going to get that out this already works. We already have mechanisms in place to do this. Well, they're on a new consensus algorithm as well. So it's kind of like they've got a lot to. Testing go through. So just just for audience case a heaven heard the previous episode, you're scaling proof of work. Like, yeah. What you're doing? You're actually able to scale proof of work and some maybe a quick synopsis of that would be would be a central. But I do believe that going through the previous episode, which is a diva be beneficial to anybody listening this. Yeah, it's a simple concept that basically says that if a blockchain bitcoin style blockchain drives its security from incorporating the hash of the will of a block incorporating actually came before it bit chain web uses an idea that's been around for quite a while. But chain web is the first deployment that we know of that actually does this certainly does it at the massive scale that we do it chain web says that you can incorporate hashes from other Blockchain's that are that are producing blocks in the same network, and the main innovation there is to is to apply the graph theory and say that we can conceive of networks that are basically. Fees expand graphs that bound how long a chain is separated from any other chain in the network, which ends up being very important security property. Well, you don't the main thing that if you offer here's is that can activity, right? And that's that's basically what chain web is. And but what you get for it. Is you get every single chain? That's in the system is running independently. And that's very good thing. Because that's where the throughput comes from. So we're not going to be orders of magnitude faster on given chain. Then the theorem today bitcoin, it's the fact that we can run ten a hundred thousand ten thousand of these things and really only constrained by bandwidth. That's been an exciting thing to see too. Is that is that the network itself doesn't chew up a lot of CPU to compute consensus over the entire, you know, because there is some consensus work that has to happen, which is that, you know, there can be different. Forks on a given chain. There could be different forks happening in different parts of the network. So and there can be different kind of combinations of ports that are happening is something that we call cut, which is basically the wavefront of all the locks that are being produced the essential property of chain with that. So important that diameter is so important because it bounds how far out of sync. He's yet. And it makes it that. That problem never really spins out of control. And but that at the same time as the property that makes it impossible to censor someone else. So it's a very I think the thing that's very satisfying chain web. And it's been very satisfying about doing the engineering is and I don't take credit for this. By the way, we the people working on this team or some very vents people. And it's really minimizing to see see this thing actually, come to wife is that the the principles haven't changed the, you know, the engineering has had to happen. But it's it's leverage. These ideas. And been able to come up with a practical approach to consensus that doesn't bog down either simulation or intestine intestinal. We got to our first milestone was getting two hundred thousand blocks that was ten thousand blocks each chain. And and having it, you know, four things get things do get outta whack momentarily, and then they come back into consensus, and in that sense. It's no different than like, the occasional appearance before in bitcoin. So have you done stress testing on this to to see what kind of ridiculous throughput you get on this. That's that's what we're moving to right now, we have some low hanging fruit of things that we have to address such as we, you know, the initial one was a memory based system. So we're just starting to roll out the disk based system now. So that obviously memory base system's gonna run out of resources shortly that we are able to stress test in terms of like running very fast mining rates and things like that. And we're happy with what we saw there. So, you know, the next thing is also like really cramming blocks full and seeing what kinds of you know, what the transaction load looks like, and what that, you know, the work required there, another nice thing is that unlike Therion, we don't transmit the actual results of each transaction or the Enderlein database. So the bandwidth usage is much smaller, and eventually we'll be able to do things like checkpoint the application database so that as opposed to having to download like what is hearing after download today. It's. Mode or you're using but it can get up there. Yeah. Like a big phone note. I think is in terabytes now archive node is just around terabyte. Yeah. But that's no no-one runs them. Six five. Right. So I mean, that's something that we will. You know, this is not something we're going to do for main net. But but shortly after Maine, we'll start introducing ways that you can start up with a smaller image, simply because you know, the engineer packed as a separate layer manages its data. And then just introduces hashes back into the system to verify the contents. So back to somebody verify on short to know that the whole system script, if you're only maintaining one, I don't know. I don't want to call it a shard, although is a particular chard as an imprecise term. It really is a particular chain on the chain web. Like, you don't have to maintain the full state of that chain the full history of that chain, retain a certain unless he unless you want to be a super proof of work maximalist be the there will be those people purpose right has the pink about work because work is the only system that you could go off you could have a network. Titian for a year and recover. It's the only system in history that can do that. So Maximus is going to be like you have to maintain all that capability till Genesis block, but impracticality that would be an economic disaster. Right. I mean, if bitcoin admitted a hard for that was a year old, everyone would raise quit. Yeah. So I mean, so, you know, so practically that's not true. So, but it's it's just interesting because a lot of these basically by having kind of solid engineering practices like decoupled design. Now, they're it's consensus doesn't care about payloads consensus just cares about these more clashes going through in mining and making sure that they all agree on their ancestors packed runs as a service that leverages that and that produces, you know, a list of Merckel hashes that form the block cash, but the system isn't architect around that. So it would be possible. For instance, to have these kind of light nodes, that's because you don't because you're you're consensus dependent on other other chains into network. You don't have to look as far back to get in higher degree of confidence that transaction. Your current chain is correct. Because the whole network is screaming. It you if somebody does something wrong on your system, or if you're spending something that doesn't match up. It's just like infeasible to even think that maybe you've been two hundred state changes would would be more that would even be required for for the system. Like, you know, you're gonna know if the if it's an most folks are local to so in that sense, they get handled by the chain. That's their if not like the whole system is fourteen or even or a more accurate way to say that is that a fork at the cut level doesn't mean that every single chain is out of sync. It means that a few chains are out of sync. You know, there's there's a there's a probable probability that all could go out of sync. But that doesn't matter and it's also very unlikely. So that system ninety five just like bitcoin, which hasn't forking all the time the system ninety five percent of the time is a well behave system, and because of the security you can consider a much lower confirmation death. So we get back a little bit too packed. If we're having cross chain communication. With with with pact is for verification built into that. In can if so is there special challenges around that especially given the fact that things can Ford. No. Because the the the great thing about chain web being a trust Lewis because member one of the things about light clients and simple payment advocation is that there's a trust problem normally chain web doesn't have this problem chain web has a hundred percent reliable oracle of the of whatever is happening on this other chain for that cut for. So in other words, the same reasons why mass conservation works with fortune. Bitcoin is why cross chain stuff works on chain web. In other words, you you deleted the coin if that gets forked, we'll guess what you're never gonna be able to create the other one because the Fogo if you deleted the coin, and you created the coin in that whole thing gets for well, then they all go. If just the crate goes away fine, you have to send in another create, and you know, and transaction reintroduction, you know, this is something I've had to learn. About his whole, you know, like the the ways that meme pools reintroduced transaction safely, you know, Toshi paper just glosses over the. Or things out but come on. That's not that's a terrible user experience. So this whole idea that after a four he'll have to send your transaction. And nobody does that that happens automatically. So as a result these things all behave. They're all very well behaved with respect to forks, and like many other things that if we had more time to form of fishing, and some of the things Emily could dive back into is one of the things that pack is at its very well specified system, very tight boundaries. So they're that represented the cross chain. Burn create is verifiable by having an axiom that says that this can't produce two states. Right. That that in other words that that create can't happen twice. That's what I was going to circle back soon affected because you have language like pack that has things that are formed verifiable. You've lot more security guarantees on moving things across from state to state 'cause they're both operating on the same foundational language guarantees, right? Right. And, you know, unlike if if if we were to when Emily talks about, you know, there's different levels of former Gatien, you know, like we're gonna we're gonna be doing an Amei with cirtics soon who've done stuff involving trying to like formally verifying entire operating system or entire network. I mean, it gets very deep if you wanna actually get to the level of saying, so we're going to layer things on top of each other. Instead, we're going to say we've proven the chain when it was safe. And that it that censorship is not possible. We will base packed on a set of principles that we demand that the run time guarantee, and then we'll do formal verification on top of that. So. Emily. Get arrested here. But I have one more kind of like thing I feel like a good way to close us out. You just got into the space what eight months ago, you said. What has the thing? So this is kinda like been your main for awhile, what specific challenges have there been in in developing on packed in impact in four in building that threw you off in you didn't really have to face them in other spaces. And if there's anything else that maybe we should have covered that we didn't, you know, please feel free to all. Yeah. I suppose it's the the way that pact is constructed. Normally when you think of a language take a compiled language, but packed happens to be interpreted and interpreted in an interpreter that we've written in Haskell, which is a compiled language. So it's kind of a strange shift in mentality that your concerns have to be how do I represent my language in terms of not just what I want for a feature or feature set, which is packed language. But also, how do I express this in Haskell the language that we wrote the said, and then how do we handle concerns like Runtime typing? How do we handle concerns? Like, I guess how do we even express formal verification for this language in terms of this other language that sits on top of that which has been totally contrary to most of the the things that I've done which have been very much compiled, I guess languages that have a Dino tasteful semantic mathematical semantic. And I it's just been a fun experience. That's that's basically it. It's just wrapping your head around not just like the language itself. But but the feature set that we offer being not just a programming language, but very opinionated programming language about the things that you should be able to do I it poses a certain set of challenges, which are really unfamiliar to someone who believes that you should be able to do anything in programming language. But yeah, it's turned out great. Yeah. I really excited by done. I think I can't wait to see the live test NAT. Stuart are there any last minute announcements you'd like to make for your up to? One thing. I wanted to point out is that on the turing complete incomplete. We have an interesting post on our medium that was written by a nontechnical person here at Kadena, and that's just interesting to see somebody grappled with these concepts and why they might, you know, be of interest to somebody who isn't necessarily programmer. So I just wanted to quit that out there. But yeah, I mean, we we covered a lot of the really exciting stuff that's going on here. You know? I got I got through some of the upcoming highlights of our, you know, March two main that and are kind of steady canes tests things were super. I mean, it's it's a really exciting time around here. The other thing is that we did, you know, just kind of give a quick shout out to what we've been doing in the private world is that we did roll out a cloud base Lucien on Amazon in January with their private blockchain. And that's that's just something that increasingly, you know, the world is going to be one. Where there's private blockchain San public walk chains. And you can you can use all the tools we talked about impact on a private blockchain as well. So that's something that and there's even some features there that aren't unchain web like the ability to have confidential transactions that were that other people can't see with their own computational models associated with it and things like that. So it's just been really exciting here and also working closely with our clients, some very exciting announcements coming out about these new financial products that are going to be launched on Cadena on the unchain web. So it's just I would just encourage everybody. Stay tuned because there's a bunch of exciting stuff that's going to be coming your way very shortly. Okay. Where did they go to what do they go to stay tuned? Dada. We have also discard channel we also have a newsletter. You can sign up for their, you know, we've been we've actually I've been stirring up some stirring up some conversations on Twitter. There's you know, we're we're finally starting to get our get our message out. But please come join our discord channels a lot of really interesting conversations happening there. Yeah. And I'm on there all the time. So if you won't ask any questions about for verification more indepth where I can actually write this stuff out. Portugal. Difficult. Yeah. This is difficult platform for indepth. I mean, we do try and dog as much as possible. But we have a limited set a time, and we are already over. And that's that's because there's so much interesting work in Dana. So I'm really really excited to have you guys back on and we will reach out to you to have you back on again in the future. If you're interested. Thanks.

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The Getting Blitzed! Edition

The Promised Podcast

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The Getting Blitzed! Edition

"This is one. This episode may contain explicit language. The promised podcast brought to you on. T. V. One the voice of city from which the line of the fast train to Jerusalem will be extended so that its terminus will now be the Western Wall this according to an announcement this week by Minister of Transportation. But sallow smoked rich. Now the high speed rail as many will remember is the long delayed infrastructure project that finally began regular service last month and can take Le`veon's to the entrance of Jerusalem and short twenty nine minutes once the new extension is built in just thirty four minutes. We will be able to travel from downtown Tel Aviv to the ancient limestone retaining wall of Herod. The Great Second Temple built a bit under two thousand six hundred years ago. This is great news for any Tel Aviv resident. Who has an urgent request of God that? She's written on a scrap of paper and his eager to place between the stones of the wall as people have done for decades and maybe longer a practice first reported in nineteen thirty. One by Rabbi Haim elisar spear of Mum Catch who described how Eighteenth Century Rabbi Haim Eben Atar once gave a poor man without a bite to eat an amulet and told them to put it between the stones of the wall after which his fortunes changed whether that story is true or Apocryphal. It is certain that for much of the past century folks have been slipping notes between the stones these days more than a million each year and the reason why this works is the fact as we learned from the Madryn Exodus Rabba to to that God never leaves the remnants of the temple although some rabbis like small BAR KNOCK Mon- disagree arguing that when the temple is destroyed goddess. Send it to the heavens. But if you ask me that's like classic Shmuel Bar Nachman and it's the Dole stories haters going to hate as an aside. The movie mock tube from a few years ago is about a couple of gangsters who after their lives are miraculously saved. Take to go to the wall pulling out the notes and making the wishes come true. As when they dangle a loan shark by the ankles over the side of a building until he forgives the debt that someone wrote a note to God asking that he make go away. Which may seem like a digression although the point is if in the past we in Tel Aviv when we needed God do us. A solid needed to take three buses to get to the wall and it might take two hours soon when we need the help. That only God or gangsters can give we will be able to hop on a comfy trained with Wifi and be stuffing note into a crack in just thirty five short minutes. I probably don't need to add that. Lots of folks around the world are outraged by the plan. The spokesperson of Jordan's Foreign Ministry called it quote a flagrant violation of international law and quote an archaeologist. Say That building cavernous fast train tunnels under the Old City will destroy archaeological treasures of incalculable. Worth and Harry de Rabbis. Worry in advance about ancient burial sites that will be disturbed but on the other hand a direct line from these off the God in thirty four minutes. I for one say that. Time's a wasting my sins. Inc and atone for themselves and my luck ain't likely to turn around without a little prodding by God and if the greatest thing about Tel Aviv is it's joyful messy blood and semen this worldliness being thirty four minutes from the old place where God apparently now lives. Adding a little yen to our Yang will only make it better with us. In the studio is a woman whose frequent notes to the Lord. We can be sure are written like everything else. She writes with verve warmth empathy and surpassing intelligence. I speak of course of Alison. Cap'n Summer Allison's written for Political Republic Foreign Policy Jerusalem Post the JT forward and many other of your very best papers magazine is a columnist for Arts you heard on NPR PRI and the BBC and you've seen on. I twenty four television announced zero TV. She holds a World Centre Award for Journalism. Recognizing excellence in the Aspen reported and a Simon rocked our award for excellence and covering Zionism aaliyah and Israel Alison. How you doing the God? I worship is more likely to be on Dizengoff at the wall. Also for me. Where do you stick your no? I don't know H and m maybe with is in the studio to is a man. So upstanding an honorable that one imagine God leaving him. Little beseeching notes I refer of course to Don Fetterman Donna. Zero Program Director of the Mariah Fund and the Director of the Center for Educational Innovation. Don Thirty four minutes from our Lahser off to the Almighty. Did you ever think you would live to see the day? Well not to be outdone. Amazon immediately announced that they're having free delivery of notes to the coast which twenty seven minutes and Google went further. And they have developed and Ai App which will write the notes for you and we'll send them every week our lives. Just get better and better now. It's funny that you should mention Amazon because my name is though effort. I don't mean to Brag but this week Amazon recommended to me based on sophisticated machine learning artificial intelligence algorithms that have studied predilections that I watch a prime video called. If you give a mouse a cookie. Valentine's Day special and in truth it was pretty damn good. I watched the whole thing see. Mouse wakes up with a heart shaped cookie that Oliver left him while he was sleeping. Hey this isn't around as because it's Valentine's Day cookie amazing cookie like I mean it just for you thanks. Oliver Weight is today Valentine's Day already. Yup If even Valentine's Day cookie then Who I get it. She'll sing a song Valentine's Day Valentine's Day. What a magical idea to say. The feelings that I feel every time I see which is amazing as you can tell an answer that so much happened. See Mouse gives Moose cat dog and pig the Valentine's that he made for them. I think in the give him out. A cookie verse. Parents name their kids schematically. I guess it's like how many leibovitch parents name their first girls High Musha. But I digress and the mouse is sad because he has no present for Oliver so they all go to see Mr Darty at the computerized cookie factory and he feeds blueprints of a life sized Oliver Cookie into a quantum computer and bought a bing. Bada boom there's a life-size Oliver Cookie but mouth dog packed into cookie boxes by the robot. Assembly line packers and chip off to the store and it just gets better and better from there and I don't like to boast that's not how is raised by? My parents always hope that I would grow up to be a scholar with a social conscience. And I'm pretty sure you can tell from how Amazon has me sized up and from the fact that I still buy from Amazon. Even though that company is wrecking most everything. I care about in the world and mistreats its own word workers. I think you can tell from all that that I grew up to be my own man. See My kind and decent parents are not the boss of me. I should add that. We are delighted to have a meet. Ashkenazi. That's right the Ashkenazi here. In the studio with us he is of course famously. Our researcher and conciliatory famously. A genius. But he is usually also famously in Holland and now he is here and we are delighted today. We will discuss three topics of ought inspiring importance. But first we have a timely update as part of an occasional series that we call the promise. Podcast checks up on the daughter trapped on the water on a cruise ship in the grip of a thuggish bug. That pulled the plug on her trip with her mama off the shores of Yokohama. As well as Mozelle tove regular listeners will remember that last week we heard about an indeed heard from Nicole bend of who is sharing a cabin with her mother. Berea Levy on a cruise ship called the diamond princess on which daughter and mother have been vacationing with eight other members of their extended family and upon which shipped two and a half weeks ago on February fourth. One hundred passengers were diagnosed with the corona virus. The entire ship was placed under maritime quarantine since then five hundred and fifty more of the ship's passengers and crew have been infected last week Nicole charm. Lots of people when. She said that she and her family. We're having a great time under quarantine holding funniest video contests and make your bed the best contests and watching lots of TV now. A week later nicolaides mood is a bit less buoyant. One could say as she learned in the interim that the quarantine failed and basically the ship was more like a petri dish for the virus that it was like a quarantined place to save her from the IRS and she and her family will today be flown back to Israel where they will begin a real two week quarantine at Tele Shamir Hospital which will extend out her vacation. Her time away from home anyway. To seven weeks of which five will have been spent in quarantine? Yesterday we record radio. Journalists are Golan called Nicole Band of eat on the diamond intestacy. How she was doing at among other things he asked her this. Nicola Egmont theology. Masha llah hopefully much left. It's issue shakedown Newburgh. Nick Mallett him about the The diamond Princess Nicole. Will you together with your mother or without your mother ever go on another pleasure cruise? That might end like this one did on the Diamond Princess Ben. Dovey took a long pause and said this unequivocally chicken Cornell yes I think so as of today I don't see any reason why not. This isn't my first cruise. I'll travel look. This is something something worldwide it broke out and no one can control it. As far as we're concerned as far as our family goes. We didn't know that we were coming to this kind of situation definitely not. We left home on January fifteenth. At the beginning they were talking about numbers like thirty people who had corona virus around the world then it was the margins of the margins of the margins of the news. Nikko Vesey money from a cynical showa much. Cause they'll let me away. I hope when I go on a cruise next time and there will be a next time that I don't do it exactly when there is a worldwide crisis. I assume I won't if I think about it in a realistic way. Yes I assume not definitely another cruise but for now Nicole Bend of we wish you and all the others a quick and pleasant second quarantine and all those infected by the virus. Speedy recovery are Mozelle to goes to July elite a Nissan Chabad who announced this week that they became engaged on Valentine's Day. Which is Allison's anniversary? I think Charlotte of course is the Armored Corps soldier captured in Hamas attack in two thousand and six and held prisoner in Gaza for five years until he was released in exchange for four hundred and fifty Palestinian prisoners. In Two thousand eleven. For All those five years. I think all of us hoped some of US prayed for the day when July elite would come home and go back to being normal kid growing up into a normal adult going to school getting a job falling in love doing all those ordinary things that make life so extraordinary. I hope that your life has returned to just being your life. It is in this spirit. Illogic elite that. I say that I hope it means nothing to you that you are engagement means so much to US Bishop two today three topics topic one gun. Some mench as the head of the blue and white party and prime ministerial pretender Brigadier General. Benny guns undertakes an uncharacteristic blitz of television interviews in which the main message seems to be. I'm a mench that other guy isn't so vote for me will try to make sense of his campaign ten days before the elections and try to figure out what he's offering voters and whether or not it is enough topic to Vinnie. Bb VICI as prime minister. Netanyahu undertakes a very characteristic blitz of television interviews alongside lots and lots of facebook live events in one of which he introduced his new after the election candidate for finance minister and his new after the election far-reaching economic plan this after viewing his many successes transforming Israel from a command economy vassal state of the United States to a free market economic. Dynamo that is the envy of economists around the world will try to make sense of the prime minister's reforms and his campaign ten days before elections and try to figure out what he's offering voters and whether or not it is enough. And in a different vein. Our third topic. Won't you be my neighbor as the government works out a plan to pay cities to build lots of homes for ultra-orthodox families and folks in these cities be pissed as one the eager to have redeem living in the hood and be why the hell do hurry deem score subsidies when other people who need them. Don't people like say the opium struggling young couples of every imaginable background than ethnishity? The egghead urban planners say we'll all be happier if our cities are mixed. But maybe Schule going meek for using its Shabbat. Yelling ten kids to a family having redeem would be happier and the rest of us to if we all take Anita's advice from west side story. He is no need the boy lack. That will give the boy tomorrow one of your own times to your own an for most unreasonably generous Patriot supporters in our extra special special extra segment. We've each picked a couple of campaign ads or posters tweets or videos for the past week or two that caught our attention lately for better and for worse and we'll see if they don't give us some new insight into the elections but before we get to any of that listen to this tremendous boom be somehow become up another battle. See Commander is yes machine by Roy. Cuff ry and Taliban Gal who are together. She rame your pet. They have a new record called. Roy Moore has had based on their terrific music. Comedy Review. Show called she. Ray Mayor pet which just finished traveling around the country. I love this record. And we'll listen to it over the course of the show and now it is time for discussion. So Allison is the crux of Bennigans. His campaign message. Basically what Julia Roberts said to you grant in Notting Hill. I'm just a brigadier general standing in front of an electorate. Asking them love him. Yeah well our In-house political analyst at Harris and Shell feffer Wrote this about Betty. Gaunt's that guy who is just to brigadier general wanting the electric love him etc so essential writes quote an aspiring Israeli politician. The AGE OF NETANYAHU HAS TO ALTERNATIVE COURSES OF ACTION. He can choose to emulate the prime minister and be a and this is a great term. Wannabe be putting the emphasis on bombastic public performances onstage and interviews and pretend to have that. Megastar statesman capability that built an attorney. Owl Myth or they can choose to be an anti BB. Dial down the histrionics focused on presenting actual policies and differentiate themselves from Netanyahu's entire style of leadership. So Ben Against cannot afford to choose one or the other. His base wants them to be an anti bb but to BBB has no choice but to try that prove that he can be bb as well. That's like a tongue twister. He has no choice but to try and be both the baby and not the BB pro. His problem is that unlike the original Ganz is simply not disposed to bombast and populism so this was very much undisputed over the past week when Gansu so far has avoided. Tv interviews since the last elections gave five of them count them five back to back so watching. All five of the interviews is kind of weirdly groundhog day ish as they almost nearly repeat each other and against his wearing the exact same navy blue satin tie starched white shirt black suit kind of like it's his Bar Mitzvah on TV In each interview he repeats that he won't join a government with the mostly Palestinian Israeli joint. List the party that his internal polls apparently tell him he has no need for as Ancho feffer writes. He does not offer a vision of policy. That's very different from prime minister. Netanyahu's he says that he generally accepts the trump peace plan except for its provisions of swapping some Arab Israelis over to Palestine and swapping some territory in the Negev over to Palestine. No one will be moved against their. Will he declares gant says he'll be tougher on Hamas then Prime Minister Netanyahu without really exactly saying how and an shell writes that. He's at his best gap. That is when he says he'll fix healthcare. And there's something to that so the most interesting bits of Bennigan's describing his character is being different from that prime minister. Netanyahu is one when he said in an interview that quote. You know. It's been said of me that I'm easy going. I'm a calm person. I don't get tents. The opposite they criticize me that I'm not politically violent that I don't speak crassly that I'm not aggressive. I'm not anxious to please and I say yes. I won't be aggressive. I will be properly authoritative. I will look people in the eyes. I will say what I believe. I will listen closely even when it is not pleasant to do so which may hold a key to the campaign that against is running it may be that the heart against his message is I mentioned. That other guy isn't so vote for me. It's kind of the message that came across last week when gaines finished a day traveling up north in a speech out of keyboards where he talked about driving through. Naria where last month thirty eight year. Old Man named mody bench about died while trying to save people trapped in an overturned car during a flash flood. Gant said quote in my mind. Modi is a hero. No less than many soldiers who fought by my side shoulder to shoulder on the battlefield when he saw people in trouble swept away in the flood. He didn't check appeal. Were Jews or Arabs? He didn't ask if they are left to right if they are religious or secular. He did a true hero does. That's the Israel I see before me. That's the Israel I plan to lead in Israel in which we are unified and work for the sake of one another and together for the entire state so again gained seems to be saying elect me because I am decent. I see and appreciate your decency and I'll bring out all. That is decent among us. I personally have to say I went out to sea gown. Speak to a crowd in English the other night and in person the mentioned this comes through even more than it does on the television and I was impressed. Me The cynical journalist so of course. If you're a Palestinian citizens of Israel gases message can be kind of hard to take in light of some of the videos that launched his campaign a year ago where he brags of liquidating Hamas terrorist insisting again and again even now that he wants nothing to do with the joint list and it could be hard to take at face value. If you're an ultra orthodox Jews who can't forget blue and whites billboards in the last election demanding a secular national unity government but for of US anyway gets his greatest talent greatest virtue. Attractive quality is the fact that he is what you call a mench. The statement can be taken as praise or condemnation at one at the same time. It could be good to have mentioned prime minister. Surely we need more from our prime minister than just that decency however and more does have to offer us maybe is offering more though as he makes his media blitz in the last week and a half before the election meets voters. What exactly is he offering to us? I have to say I was. I was really unimpressed. By watching the TV interviews and understand that God's was momentarily cornered by bbn trump with the deal of the century Which he was forced to embrace with some reservations are not so minor as he seems to say and then. Bb was trumped by the annexation delay. In God's escaped the trap again for the moment and now we know that he's going to trial two weeks after the election so so part of this just seems to be him playing the long game. I mean I. I saw these interviews. Someone who's learned to be a politician in the sense that he avoids answering direct questions directly me was asked again and again. How do you form a coalition? The numbers don't add up without having at least support from the mostly Arab joins us from the outside and again because he's been tacking to the right and he's attacking the religious again trying to change the image of the party to wean away. Some mythical Likud voters and maybe some religious voters who are fed up with Netanyahu or afraid that Netanyahu is going to trial and and it's not going to be joining US coalition. Yeah Yeah I mean we get wise doing it. But he's I think there's a risk that he's alienating. Leftist voters and the anti bb can because he's also not willing to go all in on the anti bb messages well but leaving the penalty. What do you think of him? No I look I. I think that he is. What's coming out is that is far more right wing than than we thought. He's not the savior of the left. I think he chokes on the word Arab as he did from his very very first speech announcing his campaign. He had real deaf difficulty. Saying that word so that that worries me. It's not the same messages Likud. And it's not the anti-arab demagoguery that there are a fifth column that the Likud is now using again if not as extreme as it did in the last election. Although we're a few weeks you know we still have a couple of days and it'll get worse. Probably as it gets election day so I look I would take him Over Netanyahu I think he's. He's fit to be the prime minister but his vision seems to be very far and further away from my vision than I thought. It was the first rounds of election. There are a lot of ways in which I find the guy when I watch him to be really personally appealing like I i. I do that that he's a decent guy. I also suspect though. I don't know why maybe I'm wrong. That he's far more to towards the left than he comes off being as the head of this party that includes people who are bona fide. Right wingers who we want to keep in the fold and it and facing electorate that he judges to be more right wing. But maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong. It's hard to tell but feeling like such a mench and feeling the pull of how nice it would be to have a politician who is a mench. I'm still struck by in the end. How little that means in politics. I mean even for me I find that frustrating like I like the Guy I believe in his decency and I but I wish that I felt like I understood what he stood for in some way and I just never get that feel. He's going out of his way to keep it very very vague. And I think because he's trying to appeal to voters from both ends of the spectrum so tactically understanding but I. I'm not feeling that mental thing that you guys are talking about and maybe in person that came across one TV. I'm not feeling that either again. Compared to Netanyahu I who I distrust with every fiber of my being you know there's no comparison but but I. I wish I was more excited by him. I'm less excited now about by him. Then I was in the first round of the election. I don't think we're supposed to be excited by him. He's just not an exciting guy right so it struck me by seeing him in person. The other night was number one. It was super interesting to see him. he was sitting. Sierra LUPITA and they were answering questions in English so it was really interesting to see them have to sort of express themselves in English because they couldn't fall back into the formulaic or hearst sentences they had in Hebrew they had to. Obviously you know they're going to be on along similar lines but it was interesting to see them. You know you could. Sometimes you get an more authentic than the Hebrew interviews. It felt more authentic. You know even though his English was perfect but the contrast between him and Lapierre because Lupita somebody who's been trying to out BBB in terms of you know whatever the fire in the belly. And I'm dying to be prime minister and the bombast and the quote unquote passion and so seeing him next to the peed who you know. It was a performer performer. So it was. You know even more obvious than when you see him next to Netanyahu how much Bennigan's is sort of authentic. You know an authentic human being but that's with any politician. Take this from American politics. It's this is our quandary like we want to see this person with great leadership. Qualities has got the fire in the belly. Who's like dying to lead us in like really has has got that thing on one hand on the other hand you know. That's the thing that gets scary and out of control and leads towards authoritarianism and so in this age. It's kind of a a relief and kind of comforting to think about a guy like Gansu's who's yeah a little bit boring but but you know he doesn't have that his personal charisma talking about. I'm talking about a vision. I'm not getting any vision of reason. I basically agree with but I'm not corrupt and I don't basically agree with that. That's the message that's coming across and it's so underwhelming. Yeah is a message. I can't and they're trying to by the way I mean breaking news this morning. They're trying to dirty up a little bit. It's been announced somebody conveniently dated. Somebody's conveniently leaked today that there's a police investigation into whether to have an investigation into his Failed Start Up. And and he's not even directly implicated in any of these charges but the the news came out that there was some Investigation of his His former company in order to To make a recommendation from the prosecutor's office launching a criminal probe against his former company. So that's good. There's GonNa be a lot of Hay made of that by By the Likud saying look you know. He's as dirty as Natanya friend of mine. Who saw guns give a speech up? North last week said that in person he said you want to know one of the differences between me and Netanyahu. One of the differences is that for ten years Prime Minister. Netanyahu has refused to advance the peace process. And me I don't think that you make peace by going to Washington. I think you make peace by going to Ramallah and one of my first acts is going to be. I'm going to go to Ramallah. I'm GonNa make that half hour trip out. I'm going to do it over and over and over again and I was shocked to because nothing like anything I've heard and this but apparently he's that's amazing so the answer to a question right to the TV interviews. He was doing soundbites and it was. It was really exasperatingly. 'cause you but he also kept feeling because. I think some people have been written about this. If it's not my original thought. His heart is an in the sound bites. So you get that feeling that. He's he's been pract rehearsed so much. He's doing what he's been told that he has to do in these interviews. But that isn't what he wants to say. You keep seeing behind his eyes but I really think something else but again say it and we're going but you have to say it but you know again. I think that's their strategy is not say say strategy the strategy is to get enough eighty may may. I mean that's certainly. The common wisdom risk being told him but I wonder if that's really true just partly because it's so frustrating. There's something about him. That's so frustrating. What do you mean you wonder if it's really true? Look it will look at where the left-wing parties poll. I mean it's obviously true that you're not going to get that kind of support if you're outspokenly but domine you're both right that he's not leftist in that. Way Lake. That's not who he is. I think that he's further left than than than he sounds like. But but I think that what he says would be would be quite consensual. Which is you know quite in in touch. With what seventy percent of Israelis feel? Which is a. I think he's ambivalent about Palestinians. He still thinks we need to make make peace. I think that he's he actually is where the majority of the people are. If only he would say it but I might be wrong. I mean the people the bowls and is any supports the pillars of democracy in Israel which he does say but again not not explicitly enough. Because he's worried about antagonizing people on the right so I think that's that's where I keep feeling like. I just don't know what you really think. Because you seem to be so tactical in every state and you're making the Tony. He's got piercing Blue Eyes. He's the strong silent type. Why do why does he need a visualizing the policy like you know he looks the part and let's all think like Donald Trump and cast him in the role? He's right now. Listen to this Shaun. Pollock HONESTY MR in be dominate me. I'm David Of only funding can and then That song is both nabbed by Roy Free and tearing gal she re mirror and now. It's time for a second topic so done I learned on facebook. Live all about quote Netanyahu's revolution and quote and how now it is really getting going. Should we be feeling prosperous a? We should be as buzz as our phones. Were on Sunday when the message came in. Benjamin Netanyahu is live now on facebook and folks who clicked in saw a remarkable show opening with the prime minister behind the lectern mic in hand. A Chiron below reading unveiling the Barkat plan for reducing their cost of living Barkat is near Barkat the former mayor of Jerusalem and Likud insider who made his hundred and twenty five million dollar personal fortune by starting one high tech company and successfully investing in many others. Prime Minister Netanyahu had announced earlier that day. That barkat would be his choice to replace. Moshe Cock loan as finance minister after he wins the upcoming elections and that Barkat had spent much of the past year devising new economic plan. So we didn't see Barkat. Now we know what he was doing. He began the facebook event with another announcement that in the last quarter of two thousand nineteen. Israel's economy grew at an impressive rate of four point eight percent. This he went on is the result of what his aides insist. He Call Netanyahu's economic revolution. Although we assured us this really belongs to all Israelis now three dates singled out as being of particular importance. The first nineteen ninety-six after he was elected prime minister when he told the American Congress that Israel would soon no longer need American aid to prop the country up because he would bring free markets and technological revolution to Israel. Then he opened up. Israel's foreign currency market. The second date was when he became finance minister in two thousand and two when the country was in freefall and he slashed the public sector and gave all sorts of tax benefits to the private sector. He likened this to his army experience when the cadets were ordered to hoist the soldier to their right on their back and run and a small Cadad- hoisted up a huge soldier collapsed right away and Israel's economy likewise was collapsing. Because it's tiny private sector was hoisting up an obese public sector. Netanyahu was the one who turn that around and he pushed through sixty reforms to get rid of the barriers to competition since then. The economy has grown every year but one and as a result the GDP went up fast much faster than in Europe. Then it's brought online. The natural gas reserves after fighting back the Naysayers and global corporations started pouring into the country in this version of events. People think it's our science. That accounts are economic success. Netanyahu argued but the Soviet Union had great science North Korea. Great Science yes. They're famous for that. And it's really the free market that Netanyahu and the Likud that brought the economic miracle which leads us to the president unemployment rate the lowest in Israel's history and the constant rise in average salaries and to the jump in the minimum wage. Our per capita. Gdp has now surpassed. Japan's were on our way to passing England and France. All because of Netanyahu's free markets. Not because of a socialist Histadrut economy reminding us that many guns candidate to be finance minister was the head of the Histadrut labor union. He's against a centralized command economy in favor of a free economy. But doesn't this lead to inequality people ask inequality he claims has gone down over the past twenty years according to God knows what measures and we're developing parts of the country that were ignored in the past. Have you been to bear Chevy lately? We've moved the army down South and made bishop of the cyber capital of Israel. Also you see the roads way up north in way down south and the trains now we have a train all the way to the coach l. And this is just the beginning. There'll be a new university in Galil. We will develop desert tech down south and get these numbers in the last ten years. Gdp rose from one hundred nine thousand shekels per person to one hundred and fifty six thousand average salary from under eight thousand shekels a month to almost eleven thousand minimum wage jumped from three thousand eight hundred fifty two five thousand three hundred soldiers. Their pay went from seven hundred and thirteen. Shekels a month to one thousand six hundred twenty shekels inflation went down from almost four percent a year two zero point seven percent and much more much much more. The Israel Democracy Institute reports at ten years ago when he became prime minister sixty five percent of Israeli citizens rated their general situation as bad and only ten percent said. It was good now fifty. Three percents say it's good and only sixteen percent. Say It's bad. And all of this was an eighteen minutes almost as long as my introduction Barakaat Is not coming on after us. But then he unveiled Likud's economic plan for the next decade. The new plan comprises six major reforms reducing food prices reducing housing prices investing in health investing. In the periphery. That's the Galil. The negative the territory's encouraging small businesses and encouraging new technologies. So what do you make of a prime minister has been in office for more than ten years? Introducing all sorts of reforms. He might have introduced over the past decade but didn't and what should we make of the reforms that Barkat presented to us are they credible well First of all you know the the the basic reaction to To the presentation of this plan is like good ideas. How come you haven't spent the past decade implementing them and it's quite a quite a switch off right from emotion coughlan to a near Barkat. I mean it's You know from a completely welfare minded guy to this. You know billionaire businessman. Now you learn a little bit more about his plan if you're a reader of arts which is always helpful and that is that So this research on which the plan is based was funded by you guys know who I don't think funded their co helmet policy for think-tank that we've discussed previously on the podcast which is trying to push a right wing. Conservative economic worldview into the Into the forum. So yes. It paid the pollsters paid. You know everybody who is working on this thing. Which kind of makes you take. What it's saying you know with a grain of salt about how it's going to To help the economy is called. Let's grow Israel. It's hard to look at this as more than a campaign stunt or you know on on our part and You know Barkat did a really great job. He was like he showed these polls that he did the research for. If you announce this plan and we're going to get the economy going that's going to get Likud. Two or three more mandate so basically he got sort of this guaranteed job is finance minister. If and it's a big if the Likud actually ends up controlling the government which actually pissed off a lot of people in the Likud but back to the topic at hand. I mean you know. It's it's very similar to the debate in the United States of that like yes on paper. These numbers are impressive. What what's been happening with our economy but then when you go on the ground and you look at what's going on with the cost of living cost of housing etc. It's you know it's not so thrilling and it's not so exciting is it really. You know what we need more of or do we need more of a push on. You know making people's lives actually better and getting these you know. Million people are million children. I guess out of out of poverty in from under the poverty line see I wish I heard more people in the left in the center responding the way that you're responding that last comment I think is exactly right but before that I have so many things to say about this. I almost couldn't sleep after watching this. Facebook live thing. I watched it. Take the dog for a long walk. I just watched the entire thing and then had so many thoughts in one leg into traffic or fall off the park. We were saying one thing is a meet our researcher. I gotTA say all of You. Everyone out there. You should have a researcher. I lived my life without a researcher for a while and I'll never go back to those days anyway. He gathered up stuff and sent sort of fact check of the the data and it turns out that it is highly cherry picked as people say it was. It's very selectively chosen to create this picture and it would be possible to gather data that create that are equally true that create a very very different picture but in a way. That is the point where I think that Netanyahu did something brilliant in this presentation and then I've been watching him every night. Ever since on his facebook live things which has every night and. I think he's been just brilliant every night of the week. He told a story in a way that I have not heard anyone on the left managed to do. It was a coherent story. It was a persuasive story. It correspondent enough to the facts so that everyone could look at it and say. Yeah I guess you know. I guess that's sort of true. Actually my paychecks are larger. Actually the bear. Chevy does look amazing. Actually this train is really spectacular. When I went on it last time at I remember what the trains used to look like fifteen years ago. They were horrible. I would never go on the trains back then and so even. I found myself persuaded that there is this narrative. Okay here's a guy who came with the vision and he implemented this vision and a tad these results now. I am the worst possible audience for this. Because I loathe the vision like I basically think privatizing all this stuff and and having the free market just have free reign is terrible and I have a store of examples from history from around the world and from Israel where that's true and even me. I even found this persuasive because stories are fucking persuasive and this was a really good story really well told and so. This was the first time I thought after I watched that I thought oh I I actually do see how Netanyahu can win this election if people are are watching this because even the person I think even the person who who barely makes it to the end of the month who doesn't have enough money and doesn't have savings. I think that even that person says you know what I see around me. The country's getting better and my children are going to have a better right and this is one of the contradictions. In difficulties on the left explaining the situation because the G- The income gaps have grown and they're astronomical so the and the concentration of wealth has grown and that's astronomical but at the same time. Everyone is better off than they were before. This economy is much stronger. Economy then the economy that was ruled by the history and labor union for Israel's first several decades so that's you know that's where things get complicated and the priorities don't have to be these priorities you don't. It's not a zero sum game. It doesn't have to be this concentration of wealth in order to have this kind of productivity and this kind of economic success and that's where we have disputes and the gas reserve. You didn't have to give chew as much of the gas reserves as you gave them all kinds of things could have been different and we still would have these benefits and that message less left is having trouble telling you know going back to what you said. How brilliant assisted tell this narrative and I think it's right because it resonates with what Israelis feel and I think that's where the our our camp has trouble telling stories that resonate what people are actually feeling day to day. He'll one is that. Why is our camp week at that or wasn't I couldn't figure out why there was no one telling an alternative story which could be told and I sure the next day we're going to see all ads and people and it was like basically nothing I think. Well look. I think there's there's there's another level of which is how many Israelis are actually going to vote based on these issues anyway. How many people actually care We can take it apart. The housing we know housing prices continued to go up even under cock loan and that was supposed to be his signature. Plan right is this election in any way going to be about these people looking and saying you know what the country has gotten better under Netanyahu. Just a lot better than it was is something that people vote on. I think that that's like I think people also tell themselves so the guy might be corrupt or he might not be corrupt but look at this country and also. This message was so positive about the country as I love. I love this place. This is a wonderful place. We're all building is right. And and here's what he's done so much better than than than the other side by the way that surreal switch in terms of the the campaign. He's going super positive super positive because he lost his message because it was supposed to be about an exit Jordan Valley. I was supposed to be with the cafe was about. It's amazing is going on trial and a couple of weeks. Never heard him be so positive yet because he doesn't have an alternative dragged kicking and screaming to positively team so authentic every night this week. What I've been watching these things. He has been setting out like the country a vision of the country that I want to live in on the positive note The last time when he goes highly negative against You know the Arab Creeping Arabization of the country. It's been empowering the The population to vote against that. So He's been told you know. Stop It. Stop inflaming against the Arabs. Because it ends up you know getting the Arabs to the poll. Oh so maybe one of the things that I noticed Every night this week is that he always has a super positive message also about Israeli Arabs about Palestinian citizens of Israel. Because he's trying to keep the flames down there because he knows that if if if they're not angry at him they'll be less motivated to go vote but it's beautiful to see like he's speaking about speaking about the economy getting better. He's speaking about politics speaking when he starts talking about how. We have enfranchised Palestinians and how all these Palestinian Israelis are going to the university. And how Great? That is for everyone. So he's got the Likud. Crowds are cheering. Cheering cheering cheering during that baby. Above all it's remarkable. He's saying the right thing for the wrong reasons. By the way he never says the word Palestinians or Arabs or even Muslims. It's always have you listened Jews and non-jews and one last point. I think you know when you ask how you're going to finance this Benny gone says they're going to finance new hospitals by changing priorities. It's we're going to finance all this because it's Pie. In The Sky Election Promises folks pay attention. There is no money to do these things. That's all I have been saying. We're GONNA use the money from the gas to Tobago. Gno says it's all GonNa come from growth. It's all gonna come from grow. So it's the classic capitalist message trickle down baby off just thought Michiko Tada boy thirty feet solidity as the kaffee stumbled at all go off Russian Lynch and all that Song is act mission. Ma by Roy Capri and tall. Turin Gal she ray pet. And now it's time for third discussion which we are calling my neighbor. And here's why coming soon to a neighborhood near you. Hurry deem this owing to a government plan that calls for building one hundred and nine hundred thousand new units for ultra-orthodox families by twenty thirty five and spreading them about cities and towns around Israel including many that until now have been avoided by the ultra-orthodox ultra-orthodox need housing as they tend to marry young and have lots of kids and there is never enough housing. It's always a perennial crisis. Here this plan amounts to a change in longstanding government policy though which has until recently favored building for ultra-orthodox families in Orthodox cities like elite and Batori lead and Emmanuel three newest cities in the occupied territories and also in cities within the Green Line like Ella Embassy Bracken far abide and Kashif and maybe a half dozen others. These cities have an odd bugsy malone character or at least for me. I spend a bunch of time in me. Leeman baiter elite the motto of which emblazoned on the banners throughout the city is Ear Tora Bora a tourist city in the Judean Hills. Everyone you see. In these cities is ultra Orthodox mail carrier is Ultra Orthodox. The Green Grocer is ultra Orthodox. These security guards are ultra-orthodox. The folks in the medical clinic save for some of the doctors. Anyway are usually ultra-orthodox. Even the rabbis are ultra-orthodox. Time was when this sort of homogeneity seemed to be a good thing but urban planners have for longtime now insisted that mixing up populations creating mixed cities produces the kind of vitality that has made so many of us Gaga over cities in the past little while mixing populations produces all sorts of practical benefits. The theory goes like increasing the richness of the local cultural offer pressing public spaces into new and innovative uses bringing new sorts of resources to the public square and so on and also it creates all sorts of socio political benefits by forcing different populations interact to get to know one another to work together to develop trust in cooperation and sometimes even affection so the theory goes the problem as neely. Molinski a reporter for the financial. The Marker recently learned is that quote. Many mayors feel politically threatened by the entry into the city of hurry deem how it affects public opinion and the lifestyle and the existing urban fabric. You can't ignore this barrier and quote basically the ultra-orthodox are a poor population with lots of special needs. They need special schools for their kids religious services social work services and such because they are poor. They often don't pay property taxes the source of most municipal income also. It's not rare for there to be friction between Ultra Orthodox and Non Ultra Orthodox residents city. Sometimes it's about what happens on Chabad or Chabad as a longstanding Tel Aviv conflict about whether or not loudspeakers ought to be able to announce the onset of Chabad throughout the neighborhood. Sometimes it's about how women dressed sometimes. It's about kosher shops and restaurants for a mayor. It's one more headache. Only maybe more like a Migraine in that it hurts like hell and that it recurs or in sometimes doesn't go away at which is why the Ministry of Construction and housing has just concocted a plan to give incentives to cities and their mayors to absorb ultra-orthodox families including cash benefits that might amount to twenty thousand new Israeli shekels just about six thousand bucks for each family they take in this incentive seems to hit a sweet spot. It's too small to make it worthwhile of a mayor to build for an ultra Orthodox influx. But it's big enough to piss off other city residents who wonder why the cities and being paid for the pleasure of their company also. They wonder if they're mayor isn't being bribed to fuck over his or her constituents in order to absorb a basket of coddled religious deplorables all of which may be enough to make the government despair of making Israel's cities mixed in fact as of now government plans include building from scratch another homogeneous hurry de city. And it's possible that this is the only ultra-orthodox housing initiative that actually will take form an succeed over the next year. All of which leads to my question for you should mixing our cities as between Cardi ultra-orthodox and everyone else be policy. Should we be paying cities to absorb ultra-orthodox families in big enough numbers to create vibrant ultra Orthodox communities put more personally alison? How would you feel about the government paying ron to build buildings schools MIC physicians? And all the rest so that thousands of young families can move into your town. Oh first of all we have a few young families who have a lot more national religious families in whatever. Would you call hard all families so I? I'm speaking from a place that you know. I don't live in some sort of a Secular enclave like I do live in a fairly partially mixed city The when you when you spoke no like factor you left out was politics and you know one of the reasons. The mayors are against. This is because they are basically going to bring in people who are going to vote against them and They may not be able to form a coalition with. I've been covering HMO for too many years to sort of think that you know any of this is ideal like yeah in my fantasy world. Everyone lives together in a mic city. You know Hand in hand in coon by Iran. And it's wonderful to to live together and I do appreciate the fact that I live in a mix place but we're just one moment. Baked Chimney was once upon a time. Just twenty five years ago Kind of Sleepy Development Valentine's lot of Milwaukee folk some religious some secular and then lately it has become majority ultra Orthodox will they built They originally built a neighbor that was supposed to be mixed secular national religious pretty much. No secular people went there just national religious and then they built one more ultra Orthodox neighborhood and slowly slowly slowly became a majority huge huge huge tensions. I'm there's some parts of the city where they ask for women to walk on one side walk and to preserve the sidewalk and not to not to Dawdle in front of a synagogue et Cetera. And you know I I've done on. You know women getting rocks thrown at them and they were trying to exercise. You know trying to go out jogging and it's not it's not good. Am I too crazy? Oh I'LL ASK. You is like to pie in the sky to say. Why can't we let market forces be market forces? Do we have to build things specifically for certain populations? You know well. This is why it's so complicated because because there is a real glaring need this is such a rapidly growing population and there is a segment of Haredi Society. Then wants to integrate more inches. Rarely society at least into its economy if not socially or other levels and at the same time there are such strong forces within Haredi Society including much of the leadership that wants that wants segregation and once isolation and also doesn't want to give much of anything to Israeli society but to take everything to this late. It is if well next town over. I mean it's not like your you know Here but hear the questions. Because like you know this that reinforces the sense that this is a group of parasites which tag is is a lot of people in the in the secular world and the religious world as well And at the same time like what you just said why our kids are going to have to deal with the housing market and these people are getting buildings. Built for them with government subsidies. If we're building neighborhoods. Why are we doing this for other? Population is the so there. Were no one's building houses for them. Russian-speakers or poor people are building houses for them. Today Arab citizens poor. Nobody's allowing even the towns that exists to expand to meet their which is which are all super important points that. I think that we would all agree that it's agreed. Just have a government policy that prefers poor hurry deem over poor everyone else but the question of mixing is and and then there's a question because if you want mixing and I think the theory of cities assumes that all the people in their want to be part of that city life and what. They're finding early exactly. I like Rana because the people who are religious who lived there are people who are religious who choose who want to be in a city where they are not the majority population. It would be different if okay. You know we're building these buildings and here's this incentive in moving to a SEC majority secular city not necessarily because they want to. But because you know that's the policy and they should the the answer to your question before allison is you are not crazy. I've thought about it all this time. And that's my answer but I don't think that that leaving it to market forces is necessarily what we WANNA do or is at all what we WANNA do because like the the question is what is our vision for a good city at a good society. Do we want to encourage to create a world in which which people rub shoulders all the time and if you have a population that doesn't want to rub shoulders with the rest of the people there or are GonNa throw rocks redeem well. The tensions at Allison was talking about people throwing rocks at people who are just you know. It's not a live and let everyone saying that live. You live your live. We'll try not to step in each other. So one of the ways you create live and that live is by having people live with one another and shop with one another. We see if you use. Hmo WHICH IS A is a lab experiment once Ultra Orthodox population reaches a certain size a certain proportion gains a certain amount of political power to live and let live off in you know goes out the window and tries to legislate a certain atmosphere in which they're more comfortable and I have to say this doesn't go well with our current government policy of leading local communities determine things like Chabad laws. They all say like you know. Let's not have a national rule about what's up bench about what's not open on Chabad. Let's let each local community. Make a decision. You know Based ON THEIR POPULATION. Well if you want to start messing with their population and plant you know implant a whole bunch of people who don't feel the same way about what should be on. Chabad and what shouldn't is the people who live there then. You're you know you're sort of setting up for for a war so you know you can't have both things you can't say we're going to let each community decide and we're going to engineer the composition of that community. I think that the greatest unseen revolution happening in Israel right now is the Israelis ation of Ultra Orthodox. I was about say secularization. They're not actually becoming necessarily more secular but they're becoming more like everyone else and that might be a social good. I'm sure that there are ultra-orthodox leaders out there. Who are very worried about this but for the rest of us that might be a really really good. Nair terms. Which will you know? We've had this conversation million on the podcast which includes a lot of gender segregation. I've gone to a very modern places and beneath brock end. They're very modern and very Israeli size but with certain red lines that they won't cross and we're generalizing because there isn't one day they're not a modest community among themselves and that's part of the issue too and it's also different. You're saying okay a family's GonNa move into your building or if you're going to say across the street team. I'm going to build a whole neighborhood where your kids are going to be afraid to walk on Chabad from now on because people are going to throw rocks at them. So we're we're bringing this discussion to an end but I just want to see if I've understood correctly I'm basically I will stay that. I am in favor of government having subsidies that to mix up cities to bring her redeem into cities. We're hurting don't live now. But do I understand correctly the both of you are opposed to it? I'm opposed to IT NOT IN TERMS OF PROXIMITY. I mean you know in terms of sort of municipal boundaries and rules and regulations and how people how people should live. I'm not saying Oh yeah. Put them all on the other side of the country. I don't mind if they're in the town next to me but if you want put them in my town and start messing with the sort of the the community standards and the laws then. I think it's more more problematic than BENEFA- a look at the one hand I think government has to be active and provide for the needs of all of its citizens but all of them and not select groups because of political considerations and at the same time. I'm also nervous about these kind of social engineering experiments and where they end up and damage that they do. Because I think there's a you know again this. This community is growing has used needs but what about the people who already live? There also have needs so you know. That's that's where I think. Those needs are often getting neglected. Proper Community Sale Avondale. Small communities were reading came over and everyone hates each other now. So a big advance. Don You said Do. Now listen to this job that aspect Stephen. That song is back yard by Sheree pet being Roy. Capri and tile tearing Gal flight of the. That's who they're sort of like now. It's time for our country segment. This is the part of the show in which each of us described something that might have surprised or amused delighted or enchanted and source. Older me even flew us as we wind our way through our world over the last one. Don what is your country strangers. Who I don't know at all from other places and from the city I would like them all to know that there's a boy one in the world and that boy is me that's my free translation of the title poem. Yuda atlases has who are knee. One of the seminal works of Hebrew Children's literature. I spent two days with WHO to this week? I in front of five hundred and fifty. Young writers at the annual Young Writers Competition for third through sixth graders sponsored by the organization. I had the Israel Center for Educational Innovation. You who is this year lifetime achievement award winner and yesterday we were together when he told a class full of kids at a school in Rehoboth about the writing. Life you're eighty three. How can you know what we feel? The kids asked feelings are universal. Some things have changed when I grew up. We didn't have cell phones and there was only one phone on the homeless shove in the office but feelings are universal. He them friends parents kids. The eternal story is he loves her and she loves someone else. Do you write about your own feelings. Do you write about your own kids your friends. Of course I write about my feelings. He told them. Of course I write about my family. I write about what I know. What else would I write about finding a few friends work? You like. That's all life is really about not about winning and I would like them all to know. That boy is me that got me thinking about Leopold. Start the new. Tom stoppard play. I saw last week in London when I was on. Leave from the podcast with Gironde. Our friends Dave and Karen and our son jean-yves who was on leave from the Israeli army Leopold's dot was the Jewish quarter of the before emancipate and the play of that name is perhaps stoppard's final work for the theatre. It takes off from an eight hundred ninety nine Christmas Eve celebration of a sprawling assimilated Jewish family. Several of whose members are intermarried. Their Christian partners are part of the party or others who've had themselves baptize or as they call it Christianized. The same crowd gathers later for Pesach Seder. So they haven't entirely abandoned Judaism but they glory and the chance to assimilate into newly liberalized Austrian society while dismissing both the outlandish Zionists fantasies of that celebrity Viennese journalist Theodor Herzl and the Anti Semitic rantings of Vienna's mayor which would later form the ideological spine of Nazism Stoppard's plays Arcadia and the real thing and Indian ink. I adore in the religious sense of that word. And Leopold Stat has its brilliance signpost to other plays that might have been or might yet be written but stop her to get overwhelmed by the expository urge to outline too much of Austrian Jewish history in the twentieth century as the play. Leapfrog forward to nineteen twenty four to Kristallnacht to nineteen fifty five. You need a scorecard to keep track of which children have matured into which adults. I bought the script so now it has all become clear but but one of those morphing children is clearly a surrogate for stoppard himself. A Young austrian-born Jew who lived out the war in England and who provides some of the most affecting moments of the night the British race stoppard famously discovered his Jewish roots only in his fifties. His widowed. Refugee mother was a Czech Jew who remarried a British officer and capture Jewish identity secret but paradoxically stopper chose to explore not his check routes but Austrian jewelry. I on the other hand have Australian roots and as I explained to you leave. It was in part because my grandfather Harry Hochstein and his parents left their town near Vienna for America. Just around the time. This play begins at the turn of the twentieth century. Jean-yves is alive today to fulfill the dream of that Austrian Journalists Come Visionary Theatre Hertzel and the themes of the play passing as a Christian for social advancement or survival. Were extremely familiar in part because my other grandfather Louis Federman wrote a play in one thousand nine hundred thirty six about an intermarriage Jewish Christian family in Berlin living under the Nuremberg laws. The Christian wife signs a phony affidavit that her pianist daughter is not really the child ever Jewish husband but of an Aryan lever. All this is taking place in my grandfather's play. And this enables her daughter to continue her musical career by virtue of being uncontaminated by Jewish blood. Her brother meanwhile a violinist refuses to shame as father in this way and sacrifices his performance career. My father played the violin and his sister was a concert pianist. But my grandfather didn't speak German and wasn't from Germany he was from triscuit which was in Russia. No Poland today. It's Ukraine. The town hasn't moved though the borders and the languages keep changing. He followed my grandmother to New York at the turn of the twentieth century. Which explains another part of why you need is around today. Since the Jews of risk were later wiped out by the Nazis. I would like them all to know that there's a boy one in the world and that boy is me and that's true of all those young writers and Tom Stoppard and Louis Federman and Harry Hawks Teen Fetterman and of myself and that boy is me even if he's not exactly me very nice. Allison what is your country over the past few weeks on the podcast. I've been listening to our new podcast. Her own had Relate his food adventures and I've been pretty jealous because I remember the days that I like. He was young and I used to head off to destination restaurants. Just for the fun of it you know on any given week but family life getting older and the fact that my husband and I and now my kids constantly being on a diet has really taken. Its Toll. Because food is fueled dammit. It's not a reason for living eat to live. Don't live to eat right. But you know dammit. Sometimes there's a special occasion and you deserve something special. In my case I have my double-whammy special occasion. My wedding anniversary is on Valentine's Day as I've said before originally that wedding date was kind of like a devious plot to force my husband to celebrate a hallmark holiday that Israel didn't recognize but then cable television and the Internet did their damage to Israeli culture. Now Israel is subjected to the enforced Romance Valentine's Day so all the better for me normally on our anniversary I pull him away for a weekend getaway but this year. I took pity on him since he was about to wing his way to Brazil to visit my son on his big South American adventure. Yes even as we speak my husband and my son are probably doing the Samba at some carnival street festival with girls in string bikinis more power to them. I say so. It wasn't good timing for an overnight on the eve of his trip. But God damn it. I was going to have a special day if it killed me. And most importantly a special meal so he got into the car and we went to one of my bucket list restaurants a legendary spot in Israel for over twenty years or Abory Fish Restaurant. It's in the city of Tacoma and it does not look fancy from the outside. You get there and you're like where's the place and you're like oh it's there because it looks like just another stone building lining the shores of the port city of Echo. So bad luck for me. My reservation ended up being on one of the really really rainy days this winter so we didn't get to execute my entire romantic day plan of strolling on the ancient streets of Echo. But we did as we had our meal get a dramatic view of the waves crashing on the shore and the and the wind whipping it up water coming in all directions. It was pretty dramatic and it was nice to watch it from the cozy restaurant so when you walk into a you get this biblical scene stone. Arches very plain tables simple tablecloths. Nothing sue fancy elegant. No music playing nothing. Ostentatious because apparently according to Ori- brewery is a philosophy all of that distracts from. What's on your plate now. That guy who has that philosophy is sitting in the middle of the restaurant. The seventy four year old owner and chef. Who started at all? He kind of looks like Santa Claus Member of Z. Z. Top maybe even God with a really really long white beard is name is Ari Jeremias. He's named himself in the restaurant. Everyone knows him now. it's after the name of a Common Fish. Buri so now the places or report so I didn't chat with him much. Just a quick. Hello in a Selfie but from I read about him. He is a self taught chef. No culinary school no fancy training in Europe in top kitchens or anything and one article said quote he espouses a more primitive Buddhist style quest towards achieving the sublime on his plate he became a chef after flunking out of school and being a beach. Bama fisherman sailor diver who then became known for his delicious ways of cooking fish and it is indeed sublime from raw salmon with with Sabi sorbet. Yes with Sabi ice cream. You guys too delicious Cubes of Tuna Floating in Yogurt to fish and rice soaked in coconut milk chillies and apples simple and luxurious at the same time so we didn't get his famous tasting menu because we were eating kosher style of no Seafood but we did order small courses to get to taste as much as we could so the restaurant has become sort of the cornerstone of tourism revolution and even as places like Tiberius have really struggled to maintain themselves as a popular destination for travelers in the country and international travelers. Akot has thrived next to the restaurant is an old Ottoman Palace that has been elaborately renovated by Jeremias into the Effendi. Hotel one of several Boutique. Hotels that have sprung up in Over the last two years Google or a boring you can read raves about him from top chefs around the world. Crediting Him with being among the top taste makers who are taking Israeli food to the next level and he's also getting credit for furthering the idea of a more inclusive culture in Israel by operating in such a multicultural city. His head chef is an Arab and the kitchen chatter. According to the food writers who spend time in it happens in a mixture of Hebrew and Arabic so I highly recommend or a borey. One kind of weird thing. Though I mean and my husband couldn't get over this despite the name there is one fish you don't see on the menu. Buri there is no borys service. Add so if you can get over that head over there you'll have a great time Wonderful wonder what kind of Hexter they have their none two nights ago at nine thirty six PM. Because it's in my phone. The girl forwarded to our family WHATSAPP GROUP. A facebook post with a photo that showed thirteen big stacks of books. Some twenty-five books high set out on a Tel Aviv. Sidewalk in front of a short stuccoed wall. The post was sent by a woman named shy showoff an archivist. I think for the channel Thirteen News. The Post read quote. A huge collection of books has been put out on the street. According to the dedications on some of the books and the address it belongs the late Theater Director. Gershom PLOTKIN history. Philosophy plays poetry astonishing collection. If only I had more hands. It's going to rain soon. And it hurts. My Heart. Maputo TWENTY-EIGHT TEL AVIV. Anyone in the area it's worth coming by and quote. By the time I saw the post I was getting ready for bed and it was dark. I looked up Gershon Plotkin and he was even more remarkable than what Cha road. He moved to Tel Aviv from Moscow. Nineteen twenty four when he was seven and he studied acting in Palestine before moving to New York in nineteen forty to study directing at the new school dramatic workshop under Bertolt Brecht's old party or when Piscotty Poor Stella Adler Lee Strasbourg were there and among the students with Tennessee Williams when he got back plotkin found writing. Partner in Sasha are g-o-v creating plays that team put on and at the same time. He joined the mapping division of the Ghana. He also married a woman named GLIAC TINCA whose Father Barak Cutting Co is one of the founders of the goon and also the building engineer who managed the construction of the Ymca in Jerusalem and also the establishment of the electric power grid after the war of independence. Plotkin became an assistant director and choreographer at the camera theater and bought the place on Mapa where his neighbor was Yosef Sprintzhak the moscow-born Speaker of the Knesset from its very first meeting in nineteen forty nine until he died a decade later in time. Plotkin became the Commentaries House Director. And it for the decades at some call the golden age of Israeli theater. What didn't add up though is that Plotkin died at Mabul. Twenty eight in Nineteen Ninety two more than twenty eight years ago when he was seventy four years old. I wondered maybe his books had stayed in the apartment for all those years. Maybe with his wife. Gloria I checked and found out that yes in fact Lilia Plotkin died at my twenty eight justice summer at the age of one hundred and two. Her phone number is still listed at that address. Probably the apartment was only now being sold or renovated for the plotkin kids or grandkids or at any rate cleaned out. And that's how the books came to the street this week gleefully. It turned out. Live the life of adventure and accomplishment that matched. Her husband's she was famously. Beautiful and there are indications that the great writer professor member of Knesset Ease Har- smolinski. Who went by the pen name? Saffi's Har- was back in the nineteen forties hopelessly in love with her smitten and that when he dedicated stories to Gimmel. They were really dedicated to her to Lilia and that he based upon her a character in one of his books named Sima was the object of the stories heroes overwhelming on returned. Love clearly Who later made her living for time as a cartographer also joined the Haganah map-making division and after their first baby was born. Gloria and GERSHOM PLOTKIN resolved to improve the hell Ghana's maps of the north by taking precise aerial photos that clearly it would then translate into maps the how procured a plane for the couple but the airfield was under British. Watch a problem clearly. Platin- used her baby to solve. As she later recounted quote our excuse was that the baby had asthma and the doctor said if he flew high the air would do him good. We would be asked by the British. Where will you be flying? Gershon would reply. It doesn't matter wherever the pilot takes us. All we need is high end quote in a false bottom. And the baby's bassinet Greeley Stash the Lak- and many rolls of film later she would draw maps and hide them in a secret compartment a slick in their basement. The morning after the girl sent the WHATSAPP message. I saw that it was in fact going to rain. I biked over to Maputo twenty eight by the time I got there. The thirteen big stacks had resolved into just one set on the wall in front of the House. A woman maybe eighty hovered over the stack and when she saw me get off. I bicycle and walk over. She nervously grabbed as many books as she could and then rushed off all that was left on the wall where two decade old magazine's one called the fighter. Hallo HAM put out by the idea and the other a new age lifestyle magazine called on the sidewalk was a single page from beyond good and evil by Nietzsche with the passage quoted has always been not faith but freedom from faith that half stoical and smiling unconcerned with the seriousness of faith that enraged slaves against their master and quote following. Up on a hunch. I looked behind the wall into the Maputo. Twenty eight yard and there. There were a few dozen books. Scattered apparently knocked back by as people scavenged the piles on the sidewalk in the yard. There was more Nietzsche twilight of the Gods and the Anti Christ. There were reproductions of ancient maps of the Holy Land. There were books on Hebrew Grammar language in usage. There were the complete plays of Ben Johnson. There was a play called strife by John Goals. Were the the Brit who wrote the Forsyte Saga and one a Noble Prize? But it's pretty much forgotten today. There were books by desks. Ifc and books about the staff ski. There are a few Hebrew plays. I didn't recognize altogether. It wasn't much. I felt the first drops of rain so I gather all the books that were left and I put them in my panthers. I couldn't think of what else to do. Then I'd buy a home in the rain and that brings us the end of our show. Thank you to meet Ashkenazi. Who is here with us? Our genius researcher conciliatory and scholar usually not in residence but now in residence thanks. We Tie Shalimar station manager and producer without whom there would be none of this thing so I she believed my favorite band from Gabar. They give us a music of this sort in the end of our show. Thank you Alison. Thank you Natalie. Thank you don. Thank all of our Patriot. 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Used a used a blink comparator one of my favorite scientific instruments to compare plate photographs of the night sky and established the existence of Pluto which had been conjectured to exist almost ninety years earlier tombaugh wired news of his discovery to the Harvard College Observatory as was the fashion of the time. And the women and men working there under Harlow Shipley declared Pluto the ninth planet of our solar system which it remained until two thousand six when the International Astronomers Union downgraded it to an icy dwarf planet. Which if you ask me as a kind of judgy thing to do I guess I don't have to tell you how much I love International Pluto Day. What with the heroism of Tombaugh spending a year quietly scrutinizing photographs of space with the very best kind of comparator ever the blink competitor and with the ecclesiastical all his futility ending of the stuck up jerks of the IRA you think they're so big diminishing the accomplishment just because they can what drama you can see. Why look forward to International Pluto Day all year round but then just like that as soon as it was here. International Pluto Day was gone much like Pluto itself disappeared from solar system maps in elementary schools around the world owing to the dopes of the IRA. You not to return for another year. Not so the promise podcast. We will react view next week. And every week reminding you that you don't have to be a planet to be small and cold at heart on this. The previous podcast.

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569: Sal Vulcano Returns!!

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569: Sal Vulcano Returns!!

"Lee began today as meditation with the few sipping exercises to remind us. A little treat can go a long way so pick up your mcafee. Iced coffees close. Your eyes and deep seven and deep satisfaction out. Take a treat retreat at mcdonald's right now get mcafee iced coffee and any size and any flavor for just ninety nine cents until eleven. Am price of participation. May vary having your own bathroom or share with your family a little extra help. Keep in the bathroom sink. Counter and mere clean goes a long way and viva paper towels for the long haul there two times more durable when wet compared to the leading value brand and they clean like cloth helping you keep the surfaces near bathroom dry and fingerprint. Toothpaste free foreign exceptional bathroom clean. There's viva paper towels. Visit viva towels dot com to learn more. Talk about last part sean. Up a pitch good to see you or have we begun we. Have we begun. That was such proper way to streak. And you're throwing me off. Although it did sound very i am balls. Deep in the hands made handmaid's tale hands maids in handmaid's handmaid's tale in there. It's okay by the way. I could have just taken four and a half seconds to think about who the main characters are on the show and you know who story whose tail is being told the handmaid's and then put it together. But look i i fourteen. What's that. I know nothing of that show. Oh i'm not even positive. I know what handmade is by the way you said that like you like you were fucking fired off the show. Two days ago. Flynn meets tale. I know nothing of the sort. I don't even. I don't even i've never even heard of the show. Yeah it's a it's it's one of those sucky and it's a real fucked up there's a lot of there's a lot of It's basically a whole new world Not the aladdin. When you're thinking of you know monkeys stealing beef aronie stuff. There's also i've never seen aladdin but continue okay. I guest has been sal volcano out online. Got all over the internet. But i said it last broadcast if we get another guest. Who's never seen the disney classic. Were they ride a carpet up into the skies and make love in front of the moon. Then guess what you know. Say with me studio audience. You're at an audience No that's that's fine. Look i just watched the godfather per my dad's request. He goes if i die. He goes before the vaccine comes out. He goes and you haven't seen the godfather he's like. I'm going to be so pissed. I go you'll be dead but But but no. But i yeah. It's i've never seen godfather three. But i did this week. Get disney plus. Wow free advertisement. And i should really pushing. Hbo max but is that where Jokers eleven did. That's amazing Is a is is it Is hbo max and disney. Plus are those like the new kids on the block. Well you had netflix and hulu then along came amazon prime Relationship the game. Like why really ship. The game up amazon prime. Because everyone and i'll just speak for myself. I was like well this everyone. You said everyone that we heard this speak for everyone. Fine okay. Everyone thought when amazon prime started getting the programming Business i was like. Hey man this is where. I get my apple. Jacks and my dildo cream. And now you're trying to push billy bob thornton on john krasinski and i'm like hey man i've gotten my krinsky. Fill already billy bob. I've always got room at the table for but you know. Give me a couple of trailers first before you just go. Boom five ninety. Nine to watch more of billy bob but disney plus from the gecko seem like the one to me. That was going to have no problem. Yeah i you know amazon human. I said the same thing. I got to reconcile this. Then sudden had good programming. I think it's all about the programming. It is it really is. It's it's go ahead and say. Hbo max came out. I don't know. I don't get the whole business model anymore. They broke down cable and dismantled it and now we just have to buy everything station individually we had to subscribe to seven different places and pay seven different bills and then we have to go to seven different places to watch things. Is it becoming more convenient or less convenient. This is what i'm asking you in the studio audience eight guys. What do you think one dime. What is the price is right When you thought it was this show was that you were on. The price is right right. Yes as a Stone it's you're on it for real as a as a contestant no on it. I mean i say on it because i saw myself in the audience and say yes but i was in the audience so was i and then i was on the stage because the pot brownie had kicked in just at the right time to give me that little bit of confidence boost to when your friend goes rush the stage during the showcase showdown ugo okay and And that's what it was my sophomore year. This whole story is is on youtube but it Yeah i mean. It was grew from fraternity. We got drunk and super very high. And you know they're supposed to take if you go with the group of twenty or more one person from your group to make it to contestants row and this was a million dollar show. It was primetime prices right. We'd never seen bob barker past noon. It's eight thirty. you got border. Oh i did the robot bombard. Yeah dude i mean it was. That's like. I don't know what you equate that to. That's like going to wolfgang puck and you get like his stepson. Who's like like mike. Mike park and comes did you get. Did you get tackled by like secret. Service dude i should have. I literally am sitting on the end. It's big black dude named eran and this tiny skies probably six five and a tiny little old lady name ethyl. She's may be in her late seventies just to complete opposites and and and they had such a good funny banner during the showcase showdown and he wins own winds. My buddy pushes me out of my chair of the aisle. 'cause i was sitting on the end and he just goes go and it was one of those things why ran down. The aisle still took a moment. Till i do my come on down dance because you're running down the aisle. I don't care if it's to get to the stage to cause a scene. You still gotta be clarification. Oh yeah you called now no way man not even close in my head you say. Did you save you name tag. I wish mad because of course he did. Dude that's like i mean there's ticket stubs. I wish i'd say i've saved things now. From like you know shows and movies and stuff but like that is especially from that day. I mean fuck. Dude it probably. I probably kept a hoodie for a couple of weeks and had got covered in common. Then i probably throw it away but Do yeah but we see and then what happened. Do you ruin the segment segment. What bob was rod. Roddy alive roddy was this guy. Very somebody get somebody tackle that. Ju- rule out. Yeah i i'm paraphrasing. I forget what he said. But it was very anti semitic rest in peace roddy but No he I get up. I run down the aisle and there's a security guard of the top of the stage that you can't see on tv all. She does look at me and go. Hey where you going. And i was like. That's my best friend. That's all i needed to say sal. And she just goes all right cool. I just ran pastor and then ran towards the guy and his friends who on the opposite side of the studio so they ron stage. I'm rubbing his head. I sat in the escalate at one point and bugging steered the wheel. Have to be kidding. Me oh yeah. And then. I just stood with his group of friends and they were all he was so because it was a primetime show so he went an escalade. A boat a trip. I think to escalade the opening prizes. You'll get past a c- bring on that show the opening. You wanna a pony. The opening prizes like a dinosaur set and like it's like oh this table and chairs in you know. Take a look at this window. It was just like a new like a window cover. You know like i. I don't fuck in hold onto your drawers. it's a love see with extra carson's so it was stuff that These prizes out of the gate were like cars in the first in the first when you're contestants row o. Sweeps week or something. They were doing prime time. I have eight thirty at night so it was. It was the million dollar spectaculars. What they call it and so Anyone don't you even get tickets to this. I do just a twenty Horny frat dudes from usc. I don't know. I think one of the guys one of the guys might have been interning for cbs and and hooked it up but Yeah because people were driving from all over we met people in line. There were like we came all the way from towpik kansas. Just i love barkat. Do just about just about anything to get on that show and they interview people. When you're in line to see you know everyone you get one quest. Yeah yeah oh god. What was your question. I forget what they asked him. But i will tell you it was when i was out in la. Visiting you know. When i was there a couple of times a year. I get out there and so i went without a bunch of people as well. Two of the people. You would now Steve byrne was with me. Dahmer era. yes what was so funny about that. As a satisfying like the fourth throws center then in the middle of the show drew carey is like doing it. And then just spots dahmer era and he goes home high tamara. What are you doing here and goes. I'm here for the prices in such a sarcastic dom dove yet. Yeah what are you doing here That's so great. That the wait for the show. The anticipation is the do it right. I would assume it's on par with friends taping or You know oprah at the height of oprah Jewett like a nightclub dude. Like when you when you drive by the cbs building. There's just like three hundred people online outside what's going on. It's like people winning prizes in there. Yeah it is. That's smart keeping anytime you can create that line atmosphere People are always going to be intrigued about how they can participate. There's did you guys bring snacks. We we didn't smuggle any snacks. And i thought usual studio looks smaller in person than it does on television. Oh yeah which is. Kind of a bummer. It was a little bit of a bummer. But we did really get into the like just yelling out. We weren't supposed to and starting chance in the audience and like an amongst the chaos. I would slip in like i would shout obscenities amongst the chaos so when people are just like one dollar one gallon shit like booing people and then they caught on and they had this camera would scan the audience all the time for those shots in and out of commercial and things like that and they caught on that we were being like those types and so i remember i remember seeing them stage magic. Give the camera guy to signal. And then they would get when they right when they get to us. The red light would go off and they come back on dude. That's i mean that's the move by the way it's almost like when they mike up Football basketball players and you can hear some of the things that are being said. It's like yeah. They've got to have selective. Mike's where they're like all right. There's a couple of guys. In the corner there are loose cannons. Make one of them knows drew. So let's make sure we We hit that drop button every time it gets to them because yeah like screaming. There's so much. Chaos people don't realize people are losing like when our guy from our group got two contestants row. I mean you had your own jus just being like other than seventy five like were going nuts. Because we're just like he's gotta win and then he got one dollar d- By some i mean she must have just been four foot eight. I don't know why her size is imperative but she she did like a slow turn back at us and was just like we were all like and then she turned back to bob and she was like one dollars. Bob and i actually do a whole bid on the price. I do a bit a on. Family feud and the price is right. You know you may have known for my edgy material. But i go into hard. I rant on this to. What is the thing i hate. Moore's i don't like the one dollar as it stands right like you using a cop out bid on the price you know. I'm just like you could do that. But you're not a real g if you get up on a dollar for me. People think that they take pride and getting up on the dollar like oh these morons didn't realize one dollars but i'm just like a little self respect and just guess what the goddamn washer dryer combination is. Yeah i what i hate more. Sorry if you didn't grow up in a house that had both but guess what about your friends that had both and go. I wonder how what that costs. we can. All guess prices. So you're right. The one dollar is it's like a mulligan but it's a it's an unfair you know what's worse one dollars enough is what i hate. This is what i ate. And i get up. I wanna fight this person from when someone goes six hundred and then the next thing he goes six zero. One all noth-. I'm you balk. You've dick so one lazy you who raised you fosse bear as my mom used to say so. Six thirty six thirty five. Let the woman have washer dryer combination. Yeah guess what you didn't get six. You she was she got called down before you. That's not your fault. But you have control over separating yourself from the person that's literally like copying. It's like when when the teacher called on somebody they're like what's the capital of florida raised their hand and they go she goes yes austin. He goes tallahassee and then right as he's finishing as eurasia tallahassee. I do too. I think she's done it. Yeah i was gonna say it's like well. Yeah well we won't calling on you yet. Yeah what. I tell you i tell but when i do a bit i say honestly i just tell everybody i said everybody. Let's make a pact right now. If the lord blesses us in one day we find ourselves in this situation and somebody's six. Oh one somebody you fucking six zero two six two that son of a bitch say loud you say a proud and everybody here tonight will be like the six to is coming from the night. That will dude to i would do that. Person would go down in prices right history. Yeah yeah person has to make sure they don't six. Oh three now too because they have to know the six zero two good intention. Yes and it's only you pull the rug out from under the six. Oh to the bravery of the six zero two person you basically just fucking put that knife and that goes through the six one's one's chest which it is a power move. It's like if it's fucking but all right so games does too is doing it for a reason to deserves a ticker tape parade. Yes the six. Oh two is the one that that step down. A line spoke up So family feud to me that might arguably be. It might go down because of the bloopers that are online from that show and the questions that they can still every game show From the past that they've rebooted or whatever. Even i was trying to watch the match game. They're night now mike. It's just to like out. Baldwin was like what's a something that your significant other might say to say to you in a bit like even with the answers from first of all the celebrities are trying to be funny so i'm already i'm already like now and they got to be clean. Abc funny some a little. You know like no one's being like you know put it in your but alec like you know it's just really in the old days. Hey i sort of. You don't know you're talking my language right now like i have nights while do three or four hours of youtube of just prices right bloopers. I just go hard in the paint. I won't posted a clinton on instagram about a kit about. Did you see it about some. It was just an amazing kid. Who got this kid. Got a putt. In and then he went crazy. He fucking dryhome for the car that he won and then he jumped on the hood right. Okay i have on my dvr. I have family feud heap until i delete limited episode. God i got. I go i have. I have the richard dawson. A family feud on dvd. Even watch y'all ones shoutout recom- resident piece. I think he's great. He's i think we listen to this this week. What you froze up all my hair is now you here okay. This week this two days ago two days ago. This is very very relevant. I got the call from family feud to do celebrity. Family feud shots the swiss up. Oh my god. With steve harvey and you're you're going in jan. Where's it taped in la. So busy i we should. We should do a piggyback. We'll prices right together. I mean yeah dude and will. Oh my god dude is it probably is it. I wonder where it's filmed. Do you know yet. When i say i don't know that's why i've already. I'm already having about this call coming. I have dreamt about this day. You don't understand. I on family holidays. Yeah i host. Family feud be split. My family in two i love and i host family feud i love it in my own home. Oh my god so this is. This is family of the celebrity with the with the guys know so. This is like celebrity for charity. I gotta go on with the guy. Okay great well. I mean that's going to be so fun. Did because i mean the answer. I mean dude steve harvey and this is what i was getting at his questions in his looks like i mean some of the bloopers i've found on family viewed you again. Steve harvey's brilliant because his look alone sometimes and his paws does so much he has perfected. The dumbfounded look and also the pause and help pace. I sometimes i saw him. Do maybe twenty five to thirty second pace around. Both families made his way of the silent of the dirty. He'll take his time he's like i know there's a twenty two minute show but we might you might. We might bump the second show and make this a forty eight minute episode. Because i need to take my time on this guy's answer and i'm all for harvey's antics viewed. Wow congrats dude. So you've got to do some really cool shit and and you know your What you've given to the world Comedy wise is like you're you're not getting enough back In my opinion but it's happening with things like family feud so that's a good start the lord. The lord gave me family. Oh my god to play fast money. i'm gonna. I'm afraid i'm going to shoot myself. Yeah you're right on camera. You dude i mean. Think of the look steve. Harvey give the camera when you walk into all. That's actually should be my goal. I should make sure like for you specifically for you in this conversation i should make sure i elicit evoked like a real like like one of those adam buddy there but there's somebody there and i see guys comedian adam right here thanks for listening to the about whereas my podcast over joined the episode and i hope you're doing okay. It's a crazy crazy time right now. If you're a little uneasy. Get that. I've also got the answer koi. Cbd say it would be coy. Cbd feels good and it does feel good because i use all their products. I've been fucking with the quiz. Ed since my circumcision. And i'll tell you this much. They're the best in the game. Okay gumy's bath. Bombs tinctures joins creams royals. They got stuff for pets quiz. Cbd has been giving the people what they need to feel better to mellow out and go to sleep right to take away. The aches and pains with the creams and oils. The bath bombs make bathing. 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And there's a there's always so it always just pushes the appropriate envelope like just gets filthy just enough and people are on the spot because there is such an immediate answer now how much. Speaking of game shows misery index going into season. So what what just came out soon to she was airing now and i just shot three toed. What the fuck man. I mean so far have you done. Have you been a part of a show. That hasn't done three seasons. At least yes okay. We'll talk about those. Yet show on tru called jokers wild in two thousand fourteen and six episodes and they aired once. And i thought it was like i thought it was fun man but i think at the time they just didn't want to jeopardize a people thought it was threatening the actual jokers fans like couldn't accept us in a different way. Whoa and they were like a lot of them were just like they had a really good ratings and everything but it's like do they like the messaging was jokers cancelled. Does this replacing joke and like the network got like spooked by that and so like so. That was only one but We we had good luck with the with the misery index and I feel fortunate enough to have been a new york when you were taping season. One and Remember that came by the set. Yeah you and your so you know kindly kick in the green room in in your dressing room and and and it was just so i mean if such a no brainer out of the gate i think i must have seen after just when i first walked in and saw i think a couple shows you guys taped but within moments where you just get the show which i think is key in a game show like that you wanna you wanna get what it is a right out of the gate so that you're not having to think too much and you can just kick back and go okay cool. I get what they're trying to do. I get the You know the each You know pair has A regular civilian and the clips. And how it's all working and And it's just like it was the perfect par lay from taking advantage of you. Guys is A chemistry and and taking a finding another avenue to Showcase you guys i credit the guy I think it was kevin reilly at tbs. Kevin michael bloom yup and an and the guy's been in denmark and then they they actually created it from a board game called shit happens and they just like. Do you want to take a meeting and just play. The board game lakers played a game with us. And just see if you like it so right we we. We took a meeting will pay the game and we were like legit cracking like we were having so much fun. In the media we played like three games to mazing. And we just refinish playing. The games are like i mean that was fun as hell and they were like guys. That was more than we. That was so fun they were just like. Do you want to do the show like yep. That was that easy. I came. That was like a blessing like that came. Like have to have something that got handed to you. Wildest thing in the world it's it's so cool because it's in a studio. It's in one location. We film a couple of a three a day. Like as you know. We can't because it's a game show. It's like you're playing with money. It was like legalities so we're not allowed to see anything. No anything it's on the spot. It's just riffing and we actually play. The game will actually gambling like helping people win money and so we just get their play the game and leave. There's like no other work. Which is like jokers isn't seen so much progress. You have months of free pro and then writing the whole thing coming up with all the ideas every single day of different location. Yeah it's it's it takes a while it takes weeks to make one episode. We do three a day in this one. So like i've seen like seeing the light yet you homerun and and tbs fucking you know. Just can't stop using it as a as a pornhub replacement. i mean. they're just walking. I mean it's another it's also but it speaks to the you know the camaraderie of you and the guys of being able to just be plucked in a thing like that and have it. I mean i'm sure the game where you guys played in the meeting was just so you all looking at each other. Like i mean for for them watching their like. I can't believe this is so amazing and funny and you guys were like doing what you do right like it wasn't like you were having to or do you try to heighten you. Try to hide either. The sake of the pitch in the meeting you try to laugh. Yeah a little bit like we weren't pitching them but we were just like really into the game. Yeah but it doesn't take much salary with putting it on. Yeah like we hang out. We're real from crack crack up. You know so we just played the game and we just had a blast and it just was like credits an inva- giving us something that we could just really just be ourselves in and it took like know exactly what you said. There was no learning curve. It was just a nice nice fit speaking of pornhub. Yes i was waiting. I wanted you to be the one to segue us. Game shows into porn. No but speaking of i have been being sent to recently home no advertisement that is coming up on pornhub with. I'm the face of it. Maybe it might be a lie either some type of pill okay. But they took a freeze frame of me on the on jokers. When i was in a lab coat and i was playing. I think in an optometrist or something and they took that freeze frame and they using it as i'm the doctor recommended the pills in his end and i keep getting it from people and i'm not sure whether they get to sterile be concerned that the using i mean if you know who i am. You know that. I'm not the doctor that people take you know who i am still using me to like. Sell these pills yet. And there's gonna be a lot of people because look i mean there's just a lot of people in the world and i think is as there's people still that are probably just seeing like in black for the first time and being like this will smith god's gonna beat porna- pornography hub. Sometimes they say pornography the full msa pornography. I like that it's respected. It's like when people say the new york metropolitan the exact same thing. Also the people on pornhub like. I'm sure they appreciate too. It's like hey man like this is our was workplace. Please say the whole thing you know. I've never seen the ad myself. Because i don't go on pornography of that but i did. Yeah well waiting to be like someone on the street like. Oh my god. Can i get a picture with you. And i'm sure and you'll be like us do that. Try those pills. Men don't work. But i love you dude i love you thanks for pushing those and actually fucking ruined my marriage but dude. Good to see you man. Thanks yeah you my mind. There was like years ago. I don't know if it's still true but there was. You know there's all these over the counter nonsense pills. Oh yeah or you know. Just eleven's yeah. Yeah like jerry. You're of extends thousand percent. Bobby lee try to force me to take extends we were in fort lauderdale and we were at the i think the gift shop the casino and i just i had just lost him like twenty grand because i was up in the room. I think you know featuring i was just you know we wouldn't. He didn't drink so we'd got eater. If we're in a place with the casino at the hard rock we'd go gamble and he won. I think like twenty grand on on slots but denied his. Id so he needed me to quickly come over and sit down at the table and take an irish crazy and i was upstairs with a with the lady of the night and and that it was a it was a book but you were upstairs with a vampire. Do rock was crazy in two thousand and eight but no this Yes so. I couldn't get down. And he was so furious then. We ended up going to the gift shop to. I don't know why that was just a furious at you. It was so make sure you're not on call for his slot winning. I mean that's what i said but both dealing with loose slots we were both. Yeah we were both just trying to find the right place. Lots sabally and amen little korean man and so he Back around this game. It should have been really. That's the asian game. They domino but he got sucked into these slots men and and so we went over to the gift shop and he was like you owe me like we're taking extensive tonight and i was like i don't like with this is going and he was like no. You gotta take it. He's like you go back to your room. Obviously we're not gonna hang out. He's like well. You gotta take these like. I'm going to take them in. Probably just go back to the room and and just jerk off for a while and get my frustrations and then play video games on my for sure. He's like. I'm not doing it by myself and mike. I'm not taking those. So i'm not doing them by myself. Yeah let's go to man. I made it extends but extends wasn't supposed to be a viagra wasn't it was supposed to be biogra- oh yeah kicks it was supposed to extend the oh. I thought it was like extended and sensual. That's all i think. What the combo of words ex you know. Oh i thought it was like like i thought it was like touting itself as it'll make you grow bigger yet bigger think bigger and longer was the was the push no but no but not just not just like if you were taken by agra. I thought it was like i thought they were like this is a magic pill. That's going to give you an extra whatever you need. Oh so so. So like some jack and the beanstalk like one little thing and then all of sudden two more inches the next morning. Well it says extend right extend the night all extend the night. Maybe they just wanted to give you that extra little push when you're when it's fucking eight and you're on your on the five yard line. Well my point was was that. I thought it was insane that the national spokesperson for extends was jimmy johnson. Yeah of the dallas cowboys. Yeah first of all. This guy is a super bowl. Winning quarterback of america's franchise i know. How much did they pay him to tell the people to extend in night nothing dude. He says that generous. And he's like. Hey man i care about the sexual escapades. You've got gotta pay me. Modern men. have you want if you want me to be like. I needed help extending the night. And now i'm here to tell you you're just like me. I'm just like you. You gotta pay me. How much money. And that's a great question Money does it take to get you. To admit publicly your sexual inadequacies. It's a great question. Pork-less lhasa was. Let's get into it and let me just drink some cold brew. That hopefully takes my high up a notch. I it's quarantine and i've been dabbling. Yeah as you know we have. We've had we've had a few a fun nights together. Oh man time we got. Do you remember the chapelle. Oh like many snl chapelle. It was chapelle radio city man. It was chapelle in Those kendrick lamar at radio city and we went to the after party and then another party. And then yeah that was bonkers man i mean it was and then i think we got so high that night that the next morning i texted you go. Walking was at this otello. Saying that. And i wish i think i have a picture of the receipt somewhere. I signed my name on a receiver. Coffee and i looked down and i signed like like maxwell like it was a completely different signature and the person looked at it which made me look at it too and they were like us and i was like oh i thought i just wrote that. This is what you wrote. I'm showing you what happened. And i was like oh i guess i just saw that moment differently so then i'd say hey man like it. That was such a fun night and then how about how about after. Oh go ahead. No no go go after gotham. You've got into your place. And yes and i was like. Hey it's a little trek out here. But i was like. Hey man i don't know when i'm coming back and like it's only. It was a time of night where it would have been a little. You power moved credit to this day. 'cause it was like midnight and you like efim coming by dude and it was a guy and you know what there's a great hang to be had between midnight and four am. I agree and it's like you just got to be willing to get there and if you can get there physically and You know just used to do it. Used to be like that used to be like a no brainer. You could do it now. I have to get there. You're right yeah you've got gotta you've got to be some day. Prep like you gotta make sure you didn't do the clean for a week. Do a little cardio. Yes but we had a good time. And you're i mean you just got all the fun stuff and stations. Ed your spot. We were there's then downstairs where some games then over the kitchen for some snags and some treats in some beverages you. You're the kindest in the best dude man you got me. You've got so many amazing gifts like really good ones man like ones i love but you send me the gumbo candy machine old-fashioned one. Oh yes it's it's in my like foyer. My entry way and i have a bowl of quarters on it and every single person who comes in around in my house on the way and on the way out they always hit it up and every time they do shout out. Are you fucking kidding. Me that because guess what men i've given some gifts not like that because it's like i think i assess the person i assessed the pad. Once i was there i was like i walked out and was like you know mealy thought. Yeah coupon can house doesn't have a gumbo machine. Let me fix that. But you just how good you are. I know this is how good you are. You know this is how all right. I'll say it again. This is how good you want. You got me a foosball table. Yeah and and you told me. And i was like holy shit i. It's insanely generous and gift a housewarming gap. That's a big deal. It is and then. I was like i. I realize i didn't have a place for it. Yeah like i had filled every little spot up. And i told you and i think you had to actually get it refunded. Yeah and then you went and got out. Went the extra mile rank a lot that night when you fucking when a friend goes tape. The foods back. You're just like acid to better. I know way but you know a good on you for even announcing leg and tell me that you didn't have room because the worst thing you could have done is taken anyway. I go over. It's like next to your bed and you're just like i'm like and you're like no trust me. It's it's fits. And i'm like it doesn't look good there and you're like no know perfect in the walk in closet through. You actually sent me the funniest goddamn gift as well another gift. He said we just send gifts. Of course the man that's the move you got me. The big the handmade wooden sign. You know what i'm talking about. Oh yeah man yeah look good. Love a good yup. Yeah i'm gonna get it wrong. Well you're you're a love good What was towards towards Year goods love good love. Could sal love a good love. Good love a good. Sal tweet sign i think yes. Yeah yeah it was. 'cause you're big on those you know you'll post views of your hotel room when you're on the road and and it'll be like love a good winter view or or like love again give you a better example of the things. They're always very specific and very funny. The hotel rooms. I noticed a year that i was like why i'm always looking at like an exhaust pipe. Ever of you to this day. Like i'm traveling for decades and says so i just put my view of every time. It's the first thing i'd go. And i'd say ninety ninety percent if not ninety nine percent of my usership their reviews but the other thing is just simple. I was like you know. Keep a line to twitter. I wanted to stop using social real simple anytime. I see something that really gets me. I just say. I love a good like i love a good full. Seto look good freshly paved driveway dude. I've said it in my head so many times after like like i was on a flight once and i had a tuna sandwich and already i'm like not very well respected guy on this plane and I'm in the middle seat. There's a gallon front of me. Were getting ready to take off. We just got notified. We're going to be on the tarmac. A little bit longer. And so i take the sandwich out i brought to by the way to tunas i because i was starving. It was a six hour flight. I'm like there's a good chance. I'm gonna slam both these and i took the first one out and look. It's a really cool deli. That is really. It's not super pungent potent tuna. It's just regular tuna smells out. Tuna smells and clearly not over. But this bitch turns around and say bitch in the kindest of of Terms like she. I i say for guys and gals. Let me just preface. Because if you're being a bitch and this is what a bitch does they tattoo bish bitch people that when they come to you. If you're on the phone you know in the cardio room at a gym where your parents work out that you know four. Everyone but a lot of older older folks work out there. If you're on your phone for a minute and they have their headphones in. They still come over. And they're like you're not supposed to be on your phone in the cardio room and you're like you had your headphones on gramps you know so like that to me is a bitch lou. That's a tad. You're an adult tattletale. This woman turns around and she looks at me with the sandwiches she goes. Are you serious. And i go And she goes. You really gonna eat that right now. And i was like. Yeah and i've got a second one in the bag below me probably gonna follow that up after this one like just not. I'm already angry. i'm not having. I would have been seen like a tune of song. Oh god yes. so then. She calls over handbook offer. Dude she literally was like she turned. She was in the window of the of the island of me so she turns around and her eyes peering through that crack. And i'm in the middle seat behind her and she's like you serious so she just keeps doing the turn back. I'm acting like i don't see her. She calls over to the flight attendant. He comes over. I see here with my headphones on like pointing to me. And then the guy now i see him being like motioning me so i go. Yeah and he's like and he's and he just takes a beat where he realizes like he can't tell it adult man who paid a plane ticket to have not to have percent then. He's he thought about that right when she asked so he just goes and he cracks a smile and i go i go what what do you mean man. And he just goes he goes. Are you done with the sandwich. I go just getting started. He's just goes all right and he looks back. The woman he goes. He's just just getting started. he's he's got. I think he's it's the only one i go. We got back up. He's like there's two sandwiches and this woman so furious and so am i. I'm just like i love good tuna fight flight but the sign that you i will admit is not up for when you come me next time but i have plans. I have plans for as long as it's got a purpose and a place. I i didn't purpose a place for it. That's my current setup. But offline i'll tell you my phone. I'm going gonna be doing like hopefully doing podcast studio so it's going right and i was gonna say and great segue you have now to podcasts. And i think look there. I don't think there's a bad time just like there's not a wrong way to To eat a racist there's not a. There's not a bad time to start a podcast sir. Sleman to start when you start a one about not. Even a year ago. I think Dax shepard's i mean it's like there's an i. I'm curious though because we're when we were talking about before you Launched these got taste buds with joe derosa which to me might be the best title for a podcast that makes sense about what the show is that i've ever heard were going back and forth with had a list of one hundred names and then he just one day was like what about tastebuds and we look at you like when i saw that was the title i got so jealous with it and then i also i go as soon as well. You tell me what came first the show that that was going to be a like the theme of the show where the title no the full concept of the show came before the title and tell people what it is so we wanted do something mindless silly and funds. Him and i are always. I mean. we're arguing over foods but like with passion. I love it. You would think if you just heard the tone or you didn't know we were saying you would think we were having like like literally like a like a like a like a emotional fight. Do near everything you had we. We argue all the time and none of us like neither of us shy away. We'll will take two hours out of our day to ought to argue. Like i don't even know what like to argue like apple pie versus you know peach pie. Yeah is what we do will your. I mean that is a brilliant gift of gab to pull back so many layers for stuff like that even your fights about. I think it was chips. Ahoy verse oreos and combos we do. Wendy's is coming out the clip about to drop mcdonalds wendy's even the combo fight. You're so when. I think joseph like it's a it's a it's a pocket snack or something. It's something or or something about knowing it's a road. He only eats it on a road trip when he's down to his last dollar to just just so just so he doesn't become famish than you. Your face literally went like this. You're like smiling about being like people love it. And then when he said something. You didn't agree with you. Literally were like. Do you do to shut the fuck up joke when a bullet combos point about if you if you book combos out at a baptism your trash person. I don't agree. I i don't i also don't agree. I think a bullet snacks out at any place where there wasn't an expected bullet snacks a win and a baptism is probably the ultimate a funeral. You see a bowl of bugles. Where i don't wanna be guessed the number one place. I don't want to be a funeral without a snack or about is right. Guess guess what makes the baptism easier. Just a frigging combo. You know what i'm saying. All you gotta do and talk about your cheap affordable way to up that baptisms That dude you might that might be. What separates you in baptism. Weekly where they're starting to you. Know highlight who had the best baptism of the The standing apart in the world of baptisms. And what do your how you setting yourself. What are you doing. Yeah i do that. Such a great premise doing like thirty forty minutes. Quick listen yeah. Yeah and at the top of the podcast. We put the pull out on twitter and then answer arguing for about a half hour. We go to the polls. We declare a winner. We keep like a record like read off some of the comments so it's just easy fun and people get really invested in it because people have these arguments to people have opinions loyalties to brands and foods. Style this now for the whiskey. There is dude. There's even a. I mean you're gonna have to break down probably ice creams at some point. Right i mean there's so many but like are you just going to go dryers verses I almost had band. that's deodorant. but you're gonna go right guard versus banned in the dod. Like are you gonna segue we figure that we will exhaust food at some point yet and then move on to other topics and maybe just mix it up like with anything and everything eventually. That's amazing and you guys have such a long history friendship wise which didn't yeah derosa and i Have one and then. I do another so we. We started to podcasts. Just throw them out. You know you can get them wherever you get podcasts. But we also throw video in full up on youtube way more channel. Yeah no fresh. Yup i love it and the other one is you in cristiano and hey babe and another guy just have you know. I don't know if you you're you're an anomaly. In this way sound like you have like. I feel like you know like you know. I'm like men. So is one of my best buds. Great report always fun. And then i see how many people you have that with and i go i think a lot of people feel that way but then when i am and the one i sit like. You're just so personable. And i think you'd probably do have people that just when they're you know whether they live close to you ron more but you're so good and i think it's also like if you and i didn't have so many similar sensibilities in so many areas both have a good heart and a lot of places have talked enough real shit like you have to have that. I think when you're making a friend in your thirties right you got to more my forties fucking. What are you doing with your skin. Because i agree man. Just you know you got kind of like minded people and just kind of bond van and I don't. I wouldn't hang around every anyone i thought was like you know kind of like not genuine or not a good person so it's just a testament to my friends. There will like that. I keep. I really proud of the circle of people that keep around is important. It's really important. It is and chrissy was opening for you on your theater to a right before. shut me. we've been. We've been friends for years as well and then like in the last two years he would tore with me and so here we are. You know about like just spending out a weekends together and we're just crying laughing so we should just do a podcast of initially. We're going to do it me. Him and tim dillon then tim who's another character where he moved out. He couldn't get it together mean crystal like we live right near john. Do it together in today and get it over with so we do it. And that's one just open like this one and just kind of just talking but We have a lot of the same sensibilities and stuff and we joke around the same. So i think it's a good fit. We we have fun doing it. So that's what's so. We just look forward to doing it. So that's really it's been fun. Yeah do you think you'll ever pull Do you think you'll ever gonna paul abdul colin like you're gonna have guests pop and just gonna keep it just you guys now. I think we will have guests. I mean you know it's mostly as we just want to get an established for as of right now. I don't know when this will be released foot. Is it like march fifteenth twenty. The vaccine comes out. No this is Maybe maybe two weeks okay. So so we've only we've only just speak on so I think we're only like both podcasts. Yeah and tastebuds comes out on mondays at eleven. And hey babe thursdays. Eleven were three three podcasts. In but we have we have we have so much. We're very enthusiastic right now. We're trying to come out swinging. That's the best place to to be is to be enthusiastic especially with anything new and especially in a time. Although you've been so. I mean fucking knock on wood fortunate to be so busy during this time. I mean from From misery index to the pods getting going jenner show. We started the inner show. Yes yet to tell me about the do about the dinner show. It was the beginning of the height of the quarantine back when like and they were like. Nothing's on television. Nothing everything shutdown. Is there any idea you guys have. And we were like we'll we'll do like We would like to. We want to do something and at that. Point is like everything was very like we didn't know what was going on the world yet so we didn't like like we put out a new show. Do we not and then little by little e started seeing it on tv so commercials with mass of people accepting like where we were at amer like well. Why don't we do something that we don't have to like really kill ourselves to film production of it could be stripped down so he told him. We'll do a podcast live on tv like who's doing that like let's just do it does do it. We'll do it live and And that was the original idea and then they were like how we lose. We want you guys. He just rip. You don't have to write anything at the prep you can do you want. But we need structure. Yep and so. We're like well it's going to be on like you know at night like why don't we just have dinner together. Invite everyone have dinner it. It just clicked one of us. Each we will host will pick the meal in the recipe will pick the the dinner guest. And we'll do it all of the podcast rap nets basically a podcast which has been just fucking awesome and we set up a camera in my house and we film it just live my house. That show wouldn't have had have existed if not for the state we were in with people responded to it so well that we're hoping to just continue it as a show even when we come out of this i mean again. It's another you know it's it's it's so good that you guys established you guys with a show. That's so unique. So when you're putting you guys in more you know contained hang out environments which which which is still what the show is providing like when you guys are back there. Three people watching one guide Doing a stunt like it's but it's it's just a little more variables but you just you just your specifically right. Yeah even pitch. That will like you know how we like go on rants blower behind the scenes and we put some of that in the show but we had to contain it because we have to go to the actual bits. 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I'm great with faces. Terrible with names like here. Let's play a little game. I'll try to describe the person you guess who they are ready. Oh yeah yeah yeah okay so this is basically just charades fucking is all the time. I don't understand how people describe people to police sketch artis. I don't understand it all right to tell you the game hall of short they're white. They're black they're spanish. They're asian. they have blonde. That's it it's like these people are giving detail. We're there sketching out a person. That's walking around blows my balls off. I know well here we go. Let's see how well you do it. Let's this is your audition to be a police. Sketch artist ready remember. It's only going to be physical features. You're saying right physical features. Yeah below the. I'm a sketch artist. What's he on a police sketch artists. But wh who you're describing the public okay. Great so and. I'll try to see if i can base it on a real thing. They've done got public attention and could have been considered. Maybe shoot. i'm gonna say eddie murphy delirious right. But that's not going to help if i was a police sketch. Art advise people aren't gonna but if i say Titties what what what you know. We got to become k. That can be dolly dolly. Okay so here we go so this guy so this guy first of all we found him face down at blackout drunk. Eating a cheeseburger is floor This guy's got chris farley curly. No no no this guy still alive. By the way he's he he got out here but the this guy is. This guy has curly brown hair. clean-shaven pretty chisel jaw. His shirt was shallow may close very. I honestly don't even know who that is. But i i saw an i know he's i know he's only celebrity but i don't know i can't place him. He's got a mop top though. You know he's like one of those pretty boys that almost you're like our young. Yeah yeah okay. Real like real just I was gonna say john. C reilly until you said. Chiseled john c reilly also. I'm not sure. Yeah he This guy has a had a had a kid. That was videotaping him. And i it should be an admissible on the street. You're right you're right okay. So this guy Curly brown hair Clean shaven a preacher's would face a big about six five six five pretty big nice build Early biceps and triceps. Or about where they should be for six five in your Say mid fifties But back then. Vaughn nope Look he's you know. He enjoys the beach a lot. So he's David hasselhoff got but again jail guy robbie. At knife point. You wouldn't be able to say to the police. I think he's on the beach a lot so he's in. That wouldn't help the schedule. I just gotta held up. A guy seems like he's on the beach down. Where in the sketch. Artists like adds a surfboard of his an. It's the first thing you say. So the first thing on the sheet is just a surfboard. Nobody yeah he draws a shirt but then when he says the beach comedy somehow changes it into a tank top. You gotta hit up news bloopers. There's a few newspapers police sketches where they put up these ridiculous faces and you cry laughing and then the people look like them. So you're you're again man. This is why we're kindred spirits. Dude news bloopers are again. One of my specialties. I mean do when. I was in australia for five weeks. I went down a lot of youtube rabbit holes. And i said this joke when he real dumb joke that i now do. We'll see if it stays the act. I go. I go beyond by yourself for two weeks with your thoughts. Not a lot of you started off with a lot of like soldiers coming home early to surprised their kids which those are. That's a lot like that. So i'm just telling you this out of the bed. It's just it's a lot but then you see the only see the lion that you train twenty years ago. Oh yeah yeah. Yeah and then and then need to mixed bounce out so then a bulldozer porn. And then and then i and i was like i'd go which was real weird for the guy because we're watching on his phone and i and But yeah we gotta keep an eye so but there's this one. This is one news blueberry. Got to show you that. I found that was just unbelievable. Because there's so many here it is ready. I gotta know police responding to reports of a bomb threat at the store in wichita customer alerted employees. A man inside the bathroom said there was a bomb in the building. Police were able to locate the man responsible for those comments. That man told police. He warned other guests to leave because he was quote fixing to blow up and no one and also tough. there's room lap. Understanding is joke which i'm just getting depot. Says they will not be pressing charges. But i can tell you right now. You asked me. He's got so so you're Do listen to this guy dude. Shut up to wichita kansas for like. That's that's a shame thing. The best thing is watching people trying to laugh when they're not supposed to the funniest thing. Because i know i used to date a girl that was in the shoe In the world and she was in reno for a little bit and a fucking a camera guy we broke up but Thanks for bring it up. But she But she Oh no it's fine. Bring it up every so often provoked just to send people to my youtube channel to check out the music video that i did about it Why i wrote a song called reno cheater and then had my buddy animated and we shot the music video and then animated So it's half animation cutting back and forth that's awesome. Yeah it's great and it was. It helped me get over it But we find that. Youtube just type in atom ray reno cheater real catchy song The guy sought actually too. Because i had a friend that end up getting a job there and he was like you guys still here. He said that the video was hilarious. I'm like of course he did. He doesn't like lose but so but so that news world. I was always trying to get her to have like a cool catchphrase when she signed off and She was so serious about it. And i was like oh this and looking back red flag because at least humor me you know like i was like i think at one nine pretty tipsy and i was just like you should be like you know skewed about boo like and that's you know about whom that to you like i just wanted to do some like set your again. We're talking about earlier set yourself apart. You know everyone always says like here's my name and here's where i was and now it's on now back to you. It's like that's who's ever who's gonna come in and change the game you know. Yeah where's the flavor. What your combo. moment. Newscasters guesses. That are watching. Really there's to be a couple. The law of average wanted to newscasters watching. Take this. take it to heart man. We're watching every night we could use. We could use you setting yourself apart. Yeah or also go your way to put those more of those stories and or make up stories. The news is so saturated with so much negativity mic. I mean just how they don't have the right like they'll get. She was like skinny boo bop back. They would lose credibility they'd be like she had a stroke or she's She's just she's planning her exit and she's slowly starting to do her own thing so let's just get ahead of this and are still searching through the wreckage skinny boop back to you do some of their transitions. Michael mcdonald you know from mad. Tv tons of movies. He he was telling me their day that about when he was doing shows. I think in san diego and there was like these terrible wildfires and school shootings. They were doing these stories on and the guy was right when we're in the heat and it was getting ready to come out and that's the way i had him on for so he was like and these fires are at temperatures that are unsafe to be around for any family. They've already destroyed. Thousands of homes. Hundreds of people have died and are looking for safety and shelter so if you see anyone bring him in because the fires are too hot for anyone to be nearby and speaking of the heat. Michael mcdonald is in a new film. Starring sandra bullock melissa mccarthy and hijinks willing sue michael and. He was just like i mean. It's like who's writing that copy. But i was on a daytime show talk show and it's one you don't leave after you're done you stay on the panel. Oh yeah and It was like it was like someone from gilmore girls and then and then and then roy choi the cook who was also and then the last segment serious segment about cancer survivors which is uplifting. But you'll be on the couch for the whole show at you get on and they're just like you know when you do the cooking segment just zany just making fun any myself. We just need mo like all right and then and then you know with the cancer segment just yourselves. Doodle quips jump in you know if you have a little light hearted thing or joke fuel for and i was like. I don't want to do that during the cancer. Second can i hard pass please. So again no problem. And i just did a segment was like i didn't say a single word the entire time my head like where would i put up here. No no yeah. Yeah i mean so many of those shows especially and you do so much of that stuff. Like you're you're just you're there to be funny and promote get people to watch what you're pushing so it's like you're always like i gotta but insert moments you're like i can't just like power through despite what you gotta still read the room which yeah but you gotta games games. Let's wrap this. Yes wrap this up these games by the way you couldn't have said that more like a guy who's getting ready to leave the party and the guy who's who i got. I got something. I have something in thirty four minutes. Okay well you know what you're doing you're being you're being an attentive guest and and a sweet guy because you're like i know that you put some effort into these games and i don't want you to run up against the shot clock and here we are with four and a half minutes left to do five games with all. Let it happen. Let's do it. Sounds like a lot all right. Are we We locked and loaded on the first one. Can you see they're gonna share a screen with you or catholic. I'm going to be able to see too and All these games are pretty a part in it to the The livings and stylings of sal volcano This first one is Here we go. This is a little behind the scenes action where you get to see. Live the makings of a Game being shared through zoom q. We go and i one up and any moment now. Let me get the theme song for this. And i love this song. Do blackbox everybody. Everybody wow i mean you. I mean if you got the job as the roller skating. Dj at my son's bar mitzvah you honest. To god truth a jail kherson no big j j. He's like one of my best friends in the world every single time every time he comes to my apartment. I'm talking like once every couple of weeks for the last two years. I q the song up as loud as it goes in my apartment on every speaker and as soon as i swing the door open i hit the button and it goes out. The whole song says clinton dude. I literally unwind amazing literally before we start. I go by the way. It's a good fifty seconds before you get any singing. Which so you gotta really be patient and this song rewards you. It's like vegas. Yes they up late enough and you're going to see some shit here we go. I mean that's again a minute and change in. But before we start recording sal ago you guys i want this to be my new theme i go. I don't know if i could if blackbox is ever gonna hit me up to be like hey man you got to pay. But i love this song. I love it. Dream is from the album dreamland All right so the first question sal Now with two new podcast. Hey babe and taste buds available everywhere can get shows him listen to him the watching his really fun because you guys the when you got animated personalities you should be viewing that On a big screen. So do that but if you had more shows coming your way You know that were offered up to you. I want to know which of these podcasts. Would you host with ed. O'neill dads who fought moms. Who cook rose. Who mot gay babies and other stuff. We don't talk about or say by the bell. Podcast a full series review of the classic ninety s sitcom saved by the bell. Oh my god. Ed o'neill legend honestly if he tapped me. I do eight three f. You want that being said a versa limiting grows. Who mo- moms who cook. I think we have to have some type of knowledge here. I think e. I think you gave me a layup with e But i'm gonna tell you right now. I balk at i balk at. I'm gonna do de que babies and other stuff. We don't talk about that. O'neill we don't to me to me if it was like the new podcast. Gay babies and other stuff. We don't talk about with ed. O'neill and sal volcano. I'm clicking on that link you can't you'd have to remove my finger make me not click on it. I mean it's the we don't talk about it. And i think if ed o'neill and sabatino are at the are spearheading. Finally the things we don't talk about and start talking about him. People are gonna listen. And this is what i'm saying if i don't use watching and they know that he is ed let's talk about. Let's talk about gay baby. Hey no pressure but that's your pitch. Are i call manifest it. Can you imagine it manifested. Can i be honest. Crazier shit has happened. You know what i'm saying. I tagged the rock on instagram in a role of giant candle. And now we taxed so and now you can i. I won't say you are. You could say who i am but you can say i'm now i'm on a show about his life so and i have gwyneth paltrow's vagina to thank. I know and you know so many of us do. And i didn't mean bad one and unlike. Hey i honestly she did that thing. And it affected a lot of people a lot of good ways at the likes of which we may never fully understand i will. We won't ever understand it. And i don't think it's for us but it's for us to appreciate and that's what it is important to make that that that statement because goup which is name of our company which provided these vagina smelling candles. And then i think they. I think they did but but candle muddle candles. Don't quote me on that. Maybe this is just where. Maybe i just saw how quickly they vagina and sold out and was like well. What's next how do you go. Where do you go you only you know you go. It's only one of the real contender. Yeah and nobody else could 'cause if you're gonna paltrow too and this is really pushing testing the limits of of celebrity. And that's why i was immediately like impressed. I was like look if i was famous as gwyneth. Paltrow i'd be like how do i keep cashing in on me and you know how you do that you start smell smell in your sense and bottling them up whichever ones whichever regions your body smells the best dude fucking. How do we know. Robin thicke doesn't have just the best armpit that money could that you know what i'm saying like. How do we know there's just not that i know about. I know because you're going to get a candle with this right here soon. And it's going to be very similar similar to like garnier fruit. Can ooh dude. Don't sleep on garnier. By the way or adrian grenier by the way great actor on yay which is a lovely sipping cocktail. By the way how come back. I never got pinched. Any sort of garnier. Fruit teas was it. Because you're like everyone kept being like dude garner new ganja like we gotta get gronyea for gonyea like if he had the main he had a wonderful man he did he would have been perfect for. You have great hair to you've wonderful here. Here's doing okay. I got my mom and my grandpa. My dad for that luxurious. You have a luxurious thick made. It's it's i appreciate that i wanna. I wanna have the confidence to get to as long as to where yours is currently but every time it just goes to a julie fro stage and i get insecure and i cut it. Let's go to our next question So loving this by having a blast. This is great. This is great great great and our next our next question. Sal is look you've traveled. The world we all have Seen onstage spinning globetrotter style aglow and you know you have truly been everywhere. for With with the jokers tour which is just bonkers and before we get into this. Do you have a favorite spot. And i want two part question. This favorite spot you've performed at with the guys truly has been More places than than you can probably imagine that you've been to and then to part a place that you didn't expect to be as great like the arena. I know you guys didn't london. Which is where michael jackson was supposed to do. A fucking fifty show run of shows. You guys did that. Which is insane so was added as like as advertised or was that like overwhelmingly exceptional The area every one of those experiences surreal and every single. One of them is of the same kind of caliber. I mean yeah they'll be hotter shows and audiences and other shows but you walk out. It doesn't get old dude. I don't even understand like how. I arrived your life but through the i mean i you know i london hold a special place in my heart. Manchester newcastle leeds. Everything i mean dublin. Just we've we've done that. Uk tour but even even here like the states. Like you know we love. We love loving nashville austin and people. Just come out. Ohio comes out i. It's it's you. Know i i don't i don't i. I miss the road. I do and i don't miss the road. You feel the same the out a thousand percent. We would never have this unprecedented downtime to just be like home. Like i couldn't imagine it. You know we're in the rat race and you gotta hustle. Yeah you're a comic. You take every every single opportunity and you go out but if we're looking for a silver lining with not being able to travel like this it's like if we could all collectively call a timeout. Like i never want to call a time out when everybody else is still hustling. Because i feel like a piece of shit. Yeah but everybody's gotta take a out. I will sit here. And i will say in my pajamas what i do miss. I do miss connecting with those people in those types of stages man and just going into town. It's always exciting. Unbelievable it is well. We'll get back to it but For the sake of this question. Which of these places do you think would have the worst crowds if you were to perform their. And we'll get these great a hostile in germany. A beef arm Nordstrom bar you know. Sometimes we'll have like little north sometimes like to go out of their way to spruce things up they're like hey you got slacks. Got time for gin and tonic. I liked it in trying. Yeah me too. oh dude. Game recognizes game de facebook but only in a small break room with just zuckerberg and the napster guy or celebrity rehab. Oh lord is a good ones. I mean the hospital in germany is probably unbearable It just backpacking smell like people. That don't like my friends. Who who've backpacking with in hostels. They're the type of people that are just okay with like a weekly shower. Yep yeah that's that's look you gotta shower at least three times a week. I think. And that's asking that's bear men. I just think you're know for the sake of others more so than yourself really. I know in the summer of sometimes. I'm the twice a day guy. I like to do it while. Like when i get up and then i like to do before i go to bed. Which feels like it's unnecessary. Because you'd think shower right before you go to bed will carry it through to the morning. It's not but not because you really jack yourself up tossing and turning and getting a nice full eight hours sleep. You're gonna wanna hit that shower again in the moment so this time. I'm doing fourteen showers a week. So these two three shower week. He's one shower. Consuls that's going to be tough. That's going to be a. But i think doing a show for celebrities might be the actual worse. I'm going to go there you go. Yeah yeah. I think you're right. And i think we're talking generally pretty unbearable and then celebrities shit together. They don't want to hear my jokes about family feud they just don't you don't think lindsay lohan wants to hear by the way and i only throw shade at low hand because i bought a two hundred dollar cameo from her congratulating the on one hundred thousand instagram followers and i played it on the adam corolla show last week i played here but i don't know how could guide love your. Did she not commit that. You not giving your money's worth. Look dude i pay for me over. Two hundred bucks paid for donating it to charity. I paid for lindsay lohan to lindsay low low. Oa i have it in my cameo. I paid for her to To to make fun of me to fuck inch to shit on me to really just roast me up a storm and she She did not go 'cause she was being kind. Is that what it is. Yeah the lighting was bad. Didn't even look like her. He go look like right now. I look like i'm coming into a frigging space. No you look great. But this is like i mean we'll put this up the lighting's bad i i had to say like hey man who would watch your bullshit like hundred k. Like how much did you pay these losers to follow like it was a real like you dumb jew. It was real. It got this. Yeah in the cameo business model. Are you allowed to say. Hey i have. I take umbrage with this thing and get some money back or is it like oh why everywhere. i think. It's buyer beware. I think it's like hey man you can cause even debt lift shrimp seattle. I bought one from my buddy to wish them. Happy birthday and live with a thick german accent messages me. I heard it in a thick german accent. He's like hey man. There's a lot going on here. Do you really want me to say all of this. And i was like because i had them like address. My buddy as victor his dad son. So he's like you want me to say happy birthday victor son. But it's for your friend right on mike debt dude. Don't worry about the comedy on this one. It's all coming through like just honestly fucking throwing the ball. All you gotta dance dunkin baby going. Yeah so so lindsay. This is what she does ready. I yeah congratulations on one. Hundred thousand followers. I don't care what anyone says you did. And it's about what you believe in yourself and you and you're only gonna go more so god bless you and days. They happy healthy and safe. I mean no energy yet she but she also took exactly what you wanted and to shitter of of misguided intentions. Yeah she gave you the polar opposite of what you were hoping for. Oh the big time opposite dude. That's welcome back to big time opposite. Starring lindsay lohan. Yeah i got parent trapped on that. You know what. I'm saying. Where it was friday you dude. I didn't do. I would've loved a herbie went. Bananas have loved freaky friday. Lindsey i got fucking hung over sunday like we. I was hoping i was going to get a laugh. that was. she probably doesn't want i get it. She's like i'm like i can't be shitting on people. I'm pretty high profile. But i'm surprised she's even on cameo do the sheeting she did on these strangers that were working at her beach club and fucking bermuda like but can't do one. What is that gonna do. You think i'm going to post that. And then people are going to be a bitch but widely known on cameo that they're saying kind of guide them so she would take the brunton. I didn't ask her to say the n word or say like you're never. I bet whoever you marry is going to be a cut you know like i. Didn't you know it was really just come of jokey stuff. But you know who's going to be the first celebrity cameo to say the end work. Well this is i mean. Hey man you don't think. I'm trying like i've spent hundreds of dollars trying to get birthday wishes that pushed the envelope All right let's go to our next question. We wrap this up. Sow which of these. I know your big tv guy like me right we love. We love our our shows. We're gonna stall gic about our shows. jalil white Dear friend of mine Also a fan of a dear friend also fan of you guys. So we'll connect those dots when time permits Which of these sal. And i don't know how big of a family matters fan you are. I'm sure you know urkel enough enough to to know that he had quite a few catchphrases that took him from From you know child actor to To teen heartthrob which of these was not a steve urkel catchphrase. Did i do that. No i didn't fucking think. So how could. I just landed an hour ago. Fuck got any cheese. Of course you don't. You're unemployed carl winslow. Yeah i know that fat fuck. Donald won't put out these suspenders. Always writing up. My paint bucket even. Mj play with a bad hammy. Which of those was not ercole catchphrase. What ten seconds on the clock. Yeah i think not was probably the suspend as going up my taint everything else. Seems like i've heard it. I know it has. Yeah you've heard everything else. Tech's out i'm going to go through the first one Actually season two episode five The cheese of course unemployed. That was him throwing shade at waldo. Best friend was kind of a dumb dumb on the show. Cockroach of family man. A thousand percent and See yeah. I mean that's when stefan kill came into the picture and got a little bit too much swag and was like yeah fuck call winslow and his fucking bitch ass daughter won't fucking get on but after reginald johnson one of the best ville johnson's and also just one of the best tv dads you could ever wish for. Oh and the last one. I guess we had one more Oh god jammed up. There can't read it. It just says mariah carey mariah carey naked. That's what i wanna to see before i die. So that's another option. I guess you already made your choice. I think the writing up his suspenders. That's he didn't say that he said he wants to see. Why can't we all we all. We all do all right and the last one the last one out which of the following the jokers cruise. Oh yeah the jokers cruise. Which i unfortunately had to Pull out of last year. Which i still know. We may never have one again now. We'll see you tonight trust me. It's a It's it fuck. It's it's going to be a regret is have to do. Yeah but But but you've you've been on boats for for for quite some time now and you've gotten another lay the land on a cruise ship. So which of the following have you said on a impractical jokers cruise or have you heard being set on the cruise live. Is the pizza bar still open. Should we break the gate. Drink that you pussy seasick or someone. Roofing feed me overnight or Do we have the other options. Yeah can single hemu rhapsody during karaoke. I just don't think anyone thinks you can go that high. That's true which was not which is unhappy. Or if i jumped overboard do you think i could make it back. They'd make a movie about me. Denzel would play. Who cares if i'm white. So these are things that you had gene smith on both my thighs i know you doing. That's fucking amazing. I just re watched that that clip of you Pulling it out during the misery index episode which is great ovation. That got i just was like do the energy of that room. You could feel it through the two of man of people just because you you show it and then seeing it live it was like i do appreciate it because i do have live with that. I definitely was trying to get. I probably threw down some. It's i think pizza. I think the one is man. Pizza sounds so good right now. Dude how pizza and a little bit. How good this crucial pizza sound. Just twenty four hour could just just anything you know you. There's a pizza spot. We went to after I went with you in yorker when I think it was that that night or the night prior to your shows at the cellar and then we went to a pizza spot. That your pizza spot. It's like you got your shows. Yeah yeah which pizza. My favorite new york slice and it was dude. I mean i feel like. I've tried to quite a few spots but this was unbelievable. And if you're one of my proudest moments was when they have a couple of patients now but was when one of the locations put me on their wall. That's big deals. I wear that as a badge of honor. You should man the best pizza. It's cool the restaurants like those are the pinks hotdogs out here in la does that with the There's a quite a few places. I think on the east and west coast do that with with people that come in where they go. This guy fucking loves our shit and you put it kuhlman pinks. I wanna go so bad when you come out for family feudal take. It's amazing and i bet they'll get your picture. Do they got everybody in their current from kermit. The frog the steve barton to eminem to elton john hermits on the wolfgang. Fucking play All right dude. Well before i go. I just want to say another thing. I just want to say you such a sweetheart. You're such different. I just want to thank you publicly. Because i had an audition recently. I was kinda nervous about. Because i still get nervous and You were so kind you made me. I emailed you the script and then you got. You had to get up super early the next morning and you were up late the night before and you had an appointment and you somehow found time in your early morning after a late night to run lines with me on the phone. Oh because you are so good at what you do. And i wanted your advice and you took that time out of something you would do for one hundred times. I know that. But i just want to say like stuff like that. Stick with me. I just love you so you just saw gammit sound any anytime. I love you and that and you crushed it and it was by the way like it was a little tips here. You already had so many comedic instincts. That were locked and loaded. It was just you know when you're doing something new. You just need to talk it out and kind of get a reminder of like fucking got this right and so that's i was serving his that When you start you cried a little bit early for take care. A friend cry Just and being that. I'm not gonna i'm gonna keep trying to. I keep wanting to do so busters to loan but not like rocky. So buster like stopping. My mom will shoot semesters to loan and i think that's got. I think it's a strong choice. But not the right one and i was like do get it together. It's eight thirty my time. funny. I cry so much people might believe that. That was one of my questions. By the way. If i if i got in just went i wrote down some questions that were just going to be. Non sequiturs was an eight part episode. I know dude. I had questions about and bigfoot. I said the last thing you cried at you still think farts are funny. What is the last thing you credit. Real quick god. I did a pocket. I'm gonna stop you right. 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"The Dan Le Batard Woodstock. Gotcha podcast is brought to you by capital on capitol. One is reimagining banking offering accounts with no fees or minimums that can be opened in five minutes, Capital, One. What's in your wallet Capital One and a member FDIC? So Christopher Cody, let me know about his dad's most recent article, Greg, Cody wrote a really interesting article in the Miami Herald. I mean really interesting, probably a stretch ranking things it was, but it was made for radio. It's the top twenty five and younger. It's so confusing. How this is worded because I assumed it was a top twenty five but it's not a top twenty five. It is a top twenty five and younger stars of south Florida. The top fifteen twenty five and younger stars. Right. Affluent would love to talk to Greg, Cody about this. But Greg Cody is presently sauntering somewhere getting coffee. So we're going to put a little bookmark in that and get back to it when the sauntering is over and Greg, Cody finally saunters his way into this studio. The Miami Marlins were the hottest team. And all the sports we decided in, in sports, and then they lost three in a row to the nets yet for salvaging. And then they beat max Scherzer. Yeah. They won one in a row. So new winning streak building stuff. So you knew that they were going to fall back to earth. You were just kind of hoping. Well, the streak wasn't gonna go on forever. Right. I mean I thought they could have got the twenty. But instead, it turned into a three game losing streak and now it's a one game win streak right now. It's one game. When I was looking at some Lewis, Brinson stats zoo, he's not doing too bad in AAA and then fish stripes, re tweeted, what he's presently doing because he's hitting over three hundred right now in AAA is five homers. Right. Unless you hit another one yesterday and it's actually kind of in line with what he does for his career in AAA only the batting average is about thirty points lower. So if you were trying to get excited about Lewis Brinson hitting over three hundred and AAA ease up, because he three thirty six verse career, but you can get excited about him doing better and to living he was doing the majors. Is there any conversation about when he might get called back up? Lewis Brinson, did not make the top twenty five and younger stars south Florida. Probably I five out, though, honestly still. And. Team. No. Twenty-five. What's the Marlins record? How many are they fifty games yet because we can play this game again that we played last week. Yes. Are they there? There are fifty one so around down. All right. Fifty game fifty games last ten they're seven and three so twenty percent of their season. They're seven and three team. Boom. I want to ask the audience this because I ran into a situation yesterday when I was driving down KENDALL drive, and I was pulling up next to a canal and I saw a massive turtle trying to cross five lanes of trailing, you say, massive because he was strange. They can be John Ormuz, and they can be, you know, this wasn't one of those that you see, like humping that zoo. This wasn't like the giant tortoise of Galapagos. Where's was a this was a big pizza sized turtle where all pizza medium medium pizza sized her? We are on KENDALL was this was there canal like one this, this was between. This was between one seventeen and ninety seconds somewhere in between sort of, like, right off that snapper creek extension and K by the by the KENDALL car wash. If you know what I'm talking about tell. So I was listening definitely now where you're talking. Yes, I had to swerve out of the way swerve makes it seem a little more Dom toretta wish than it was just, casually went into the next line because there was no cars next to me, but. But I was like, what the hell is this? I thought it was like a trash lid at one point. And then I pass by and I saw this turtle just brazenly was going to be crossing at turtle speed mind. You five lanes of traffic and the core behind me. I saw this in slow motion was freaking out, because I thought I was really going to see a turtle get crushed by car even though I was trying to figure out, what would it Jack up more the turtle or the core? Do they both lose that because if he runs over the shell I think the turtle can survive this clearly, and then really Jack up quite I don't think so you think turtle could survive getting run over by a car. I want to get I think the shell you don't think so. That would be destroyed in this. We're talking about a medium pizza sized. I think Billy's dry I go with the car. We can ask Ron McGill today, weight of a car could survive the car cracks the shell. Yes, we're assuming this was a Siahaan the science that kinda look like a box. Yeah, we're doing that this turtle is really. Aware of what's going on and is quick to get into Shug. They do that move where all of a sudden they're just the shell. This turtle didn't seem like most self-aware turtle, what's that move called is that have the title like a total here to shell and turtle. Turtle feel like it'd be safer for him to put all his limbs outside, if he's going to the shells going to run over in the middle, and it's going to crack his skull won't get this look like the, the sign was on pace to run over the middle of the pizza size turtle. So I think maybe one arm one limb might have gotten a little jacked up, but it would have gone over the center of the shell were you looking back feeling a sense of I should have done more. Well, I was I didn't know who expects a turtle that be crossing KENDALL drive. That's not something you expect. But I was looking at my rear view mirror because I saw the car behind me. I'm like, man. That guy's in for the spread of his life. A turtle is just brazenly trying to cross KENDALL drive car behind me. Slowed down as I thought he was gonna hit it. He slowed down pulled up guy got out of his car did the right thing that I did. Into or think to do I guess, I was a little caught by surprise by the fact that it was a turtle where you stopped at a light because I would have thought you would have kept going. No, no that. How did you see it all play? I was looking at my review mirror because I was like I'm either gonna see Jack up a car, or turtle get jacked up or both your invested at this point. I wouldn't wanna see either who sees a turtle. I'm like, in the guy got out of his car, and he picked up the turtle, and I guess he put it on the grass nearby. I obviously didn't do the right thing that guy did, I guess he had the time to process this, or we saw a better, I was caught a little by surprise, by the whole experience, but I asked around here before the show. And I think everyone except for ROY said they would have done what I did, which was just move out of the way and let nature, take its course ROY lied about that. Like if it was a rodent, call me a liar, just like that ROY. You're not gonna it's easy to say that you would look. I'm watching turtles she'll get crushed by a hydraulic turtle in known others. No turtle in there, obviously. It's gruesome. Yeah. The mentioned that it was a five lane highway. Yeah. Right. Which is even more reason why you would not have stops to do it. But it's easy to say I would've stopped helped to turtle. I'm not ashamed to say it would not have stopped because I'd be afraid that it by my hand and I'd get some sort of turtle. Now being bitten by a road in if it was like a possum or a squirrel. Then I'm definitely not doing it. I would have thought about it more with a turtle, but I'm probably also I'd be worried about getting hit by a car because that's a massive road. Yes, KENDALL, try like I'm sorry, turtle. I feel for you. Cross the crosswalk at a red light. If you don't wanna hit by a car. No one has insurance on their cars and KENDALL. If you order an Uber eats and KENDALL, it's ridiculous. Eighteen straight times. I've ordered ubereats and it tells me the person's on a bike, and they're in a car and strategy there because you don't have to prove insurance. If you're driving a bike, come on Uber, like you got to know what's going on? You got to know what's going on? I just lift where it said that the guy was hearing impaired or death. And I don't know that he was, but I didn't want to like I was very quiet the whole time because I didn't want to like get. An and I feel like maybe that's something that he did on purpose or no one would talk to him. I hope that's not the case. But I thought Audie lied about it. Yeah. Yeah. I thought he might have lied to me about it. Why are you calling? Everybody lie. I'm not I'm saying, well, we none of us here to a man believed that you would actually pick up the turtle. Yeah. Would know you wouldn't down a five lane highway, you wouldn't that was this area was this does a five lane. Does a five lane highway midst kindle drive man I live in kindle, like I know that. But it's a popular center. You've been in the KENDALL ale house, once, you know. Yeah, kale house. That'd be terrible. So I we, we agree, you wouldn't pick up the turtle in the same sort of scenario. No at all. Another example we were talking about this last week. There needs to be, I'm sure there is that there needs to be like nine one one that you can call like Innis, where I see an animal that's in distress. There is animal. What's probably a different number. It's not a general number ten digit number. It doesn't have the publicity that nine one one, I need a number that anywhere in America. You call that number is just like, oh if you're in Miami, you got call. Seven eight six Ritchie. Like Siri if US series seven one, one of channel, you have an animal issue, seven one, one gets you. We want them to have hang on, if I just Google says seven one, Miami would be nine one one for animals animal. Control miami. I'm sure the other day I was walking down south beach. I saw a squirrel that had cleared just been hit by a car. I didn't wanna touch it because they thought it was going to bite me and I needed a number to call and I didn't have one, how would that work just out of curiosity 'cause like nine one dispatches to like the police or to like the fire rescue, or whoever so like seven one would call vets, or who would seven one one call the come get it, it would call somebody who is just ready to pounce in any direction. But you'd need lots of somebody's in different areas. So Miami Dade County city to play pay for this Miami Dade Kane county animal services, and you can call three one one house, you can call three one one, and I think three one one is a main Miami-Dade switchboard that can put you in touch with several. Parts and three one, one one or three zero five four six eight five nine zero zero ego. We're helping people I think three one. One is a little catch here. Then you have to go through a switchboard operator. How is how is our goal to end world hunger going? Yeah. Just on that show. New they're died down. I can't be held responsible. Seven people we've moved on now from ending hunger to let's start on nine one, one for animals. I mean I we can all agree. I made more of an effort than anyone here did in trying to end hunger. Very true. I disagree. I don't even really understand what you're for was other than say, send us a picture of your Fritz or you do like some food drive. Everything. That's not. No, I don't even I'm not even talking about that. I'm just saying telling you what to do something, so drab, smooth driver. And I try to get the word out now raising awareness, wait hold on a second. I'm not talking about. I'm just saying asking people to send you a picture of their free doesn't end world hunger in any way video fridge and with the hashtag show your fridge, and, you know, I just wanted to get the word out, and I feel like we did okay? I don't understand how that end hunger though. That awareness well, hold on a second because that's like telling people to send us videos of them walking through their mansion to end poverty. I mean, we're not hurting poverty, I'm more aware about world hunger because he started talking about agree. I didn't hurt hunger. Like I didn't make it worse. You did nothing for hunter raise awareness. He said that there were people out there being hungry. And that's something that most people don't think about unless he says it. Okay. Bill right now and your cards, people are hungry. Do something about it. I was learning this race. Thanks. Then. Some can, you know stuff. No, no, no, no. Don't do that. Set is a picture of video of your frizz that that does that accomplish hashtag. What was it has a couple of people send me a video their fridge, and then my response to them was, hey, you got a lot of extra access in there. A lot of little too much of everything. You. Ketchups send it to somewhere. Catch is catch up this thing you can send refrigerator thing. That's a parachute is a plural of ketchup ketchups. Or is it just catch up bottles? Tetra catch. Greg Cody is finally sauntered into the studio at morning say saunter, because you always have a Cup of coffee in your hand considering the traffic that you complained about. I really don't understand that. You had time to grab coffee. I got my priorities straight baby. You did a top fifteen of young twenty five and under athletes in south Florida. The headline was very confusing. I thought you were doing a top twenty five oh, because it says top twenty five and younger athletes, actually say that it's a top fifteen is a little confused, and we know what you're going to get to next. You can go catch the article Merrill, dot com. Greg Cody ball bought it for me. Thank you, moving on. Spoiler alert Barkov is number one. Right. I you are he's he keeps up for barky every time. Well, actually, I did this list five years ago and Barkov, I think might have been a rookie. Then I did not put them on my top ten five years ago. List, which I have is he should have, but five years later. Yeah. I mean this guy, I think I defer to ROY when it comes to hockey knowledge for me. Barkov is a budding superstar who could be like really, really good for a long time. Yup. Absolutely. Right. And I agree with this election is number one in south Florida. Thank you. Where do you think he's going to be on the list five years from now? Well, five years from now over twenty five he got me on that one. He got me you Laremy Tunsil. Number two. Yeah. We're going from the bottom or starting. Well, we're well, my, my real beef is that he has avian Howard number four, right? I have a couple of beef stew. She run through the list real fast. You wanted to use it for the next segment. Nobody will go anywhere. Coming up next segment. Greg, Cody taste maker in south Florida has made a top fifteen countdown of twenty five. It's very, it's very confusing anyways, it's tailor made for local sports radio. Depend. We do it next. So got your spring is finally here. And if you're looking to get back into a great workout groove, I had to tell you about the latest from peleton the tread heard about the bikes. I've told you about the bikes. I owned the bikes the tread, simply amazing, so innovative. 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Their drinking one of those giant drinks, that, that has beers ended upside down. This is our show with the stugatz on the ticket, don't worry. I'm not gonna do that thing where I forget, what I t's. We will get to Greg cody's lists of the top fifteen twenty five and younger athletes in south Florida because we got bones to pick but Chris Cody told me minutes before we came back from break. Mike, it's one hundred days. So the start of the NFL season gummy super excited because as a Cleveland. Browns fan. I have never been this excited going into a season expectations are high. This is I mean vintage letdown spot for the Cleveland Browns who have let me down at every turn as the dolphins fan. I've actually I've been I've done this, you've talked into just not really that excited. And I was going to say I've never been here before but I've been here often. Well, you I think there was a lot of excitement the, the season that they acquired Dante colpepper. They were the Thursday night game to kick off the season. You had saving down here, the was some buzz around that team was there not Greg? There was their buzz around the Culpepper team. Yeah. I mean, I remember they picked colpepper over breeze. But I just, I remember that. And I don't remember thinking we're going today if you like we were like, oh my God, we finally have a guy who's decent people were excited about Dante. I remember the mad commercial even had Dante colpepper. Celebrating in the end zone with his leg. Everybody get your roll on that. He has. He he had been a Pro Bowl quarterback like two seasons prior. He was in his prime. I mean at the time before we realized it wouldn't work out at the time it wasn't exciting signing and Nick Sabin created a lot of buzz. But, you know, when you look at it when they drafted Ryan tannehill that created a lot of buzz at the time we didn't know what Tanna hill would become. We just knew that he was the highest drafted quarterback since Dan Marino. We knew he was a receiver we did. But still when you're a quarterback drafted that high the expectations are high history will always look back on Dante colpepper the they consider the injury with him. But I think a lot of people's somehow wrongfully say he was made by Randy moss. Yes. To a degree but there was a season. Randy moss was added there whether it'd be injuries or shipped off the Oakland and don't. They Culpepper was very good when they Burleson, right? Excellent. So the expectations coming off that knee injury was at Dante colpepper continued doing that's up. And as you know, a bigger guy he couldn't quite do the same thing but enough about that. Dolphin. Shame and about this year's often team because they have scheduled the Monday night or same situation as colpepper debut game at Pittsburgh, primetime and Chris turned to me and said I don't know why they scheduled that game. I'm a dolphins fan. I can only imagine what the rest of the league is saying the game. It could be a bad game. It's a bad game show and it's already at the point of the season where you know the dolphins have already caught a bunch of bells. Yeah. But this is an interesting season. If you're a dolphin fan for me because yet you expect to be lousy overall. But you're seeing if Josh Rosen becomes anything, which to me is all that matters about this season is seeing what you have in Josh Rosen, you haven't made it out to OT as right? I've been to I've been to one or two k the reports are we've been hearing whispers from beat writers were out there already that Fitzpatrick was clearly, and I know profootballtalk ran a story that head and shoulders. Ryan Fitzpatrick, he's been the best quarterback as far. What do you make of that? Which is rose. And he's still getting acclimated down here. Right. He's not playing with number one so that obviously, you also have to take into account. He is getting some opportunities out there with the number ones, but not as consistent as Ryan Fitzpatrick, who's out there playing with the first team should there be cause for concern with Rosen not, not playing nearly. As well as Ryan Fitzpatrick. I, I don't think so because it's Patrick has been in the league so long that he's familiar with a lot of different styles of offense, including the one, they're installing. So he his miliary with this new offense is greater than than Rosen's is but Rosen is, is known for his intelligence and we'll pick it up very quickly in anything. We have to remember, it's may. It's a long time to go there first mandatory minicamp is is in a week or so. And then they're gonna take a break until training camp. I think it's very premature to say, oh, Fitzpatrick looks better. Now he's got to start the season to me, and I have written this to me, unless it's just clear you go the benefit of the doubt. Absolutely has to go with Rosen. He he's the guy who you need to find out about this year, not Fitzpatrick. And so to me Rosen is the guy who should start from day one my might be about this season? All being for what Rosen is, is we don't know what we want. That answer to be. Cause for a year now. It's been, let's tank for to us. We want him to be bad, so we can get to or do we want him to be good. I mean obviously we want him to be if he's really good. But we don't want what we don't want is Ryan tannehill, you don't want seven to nine again. Right. Which I can understand what happens happens. Well, if, but if they're seven to nine in, you look at Rosen and go, you know what this is the guy we can live with. This is the guy we can live with. We don't have to draft to tannahill. We could've lived with tannehill, can, we have Rosen's going to be better than ten? I, I think I think, I think we're over the ten right? Seven and nine with Rosen. That's great. I mean they were talking about this being a terrible team that could be in line for one of the first in the draft. So if you got seven nine from Rosen and he's the reason why he's been starting all season. I think that you should be excited about it because, you know, the Tanna hill wasn't going to be the peace moving forward. And this is a guy who basically in his sophomore season would deliver a seven and nine I Greg correct me if I'm wrong, the goal is to find a franchise quarterback yet here. And with Rosen you have one option and next year's quarterback class, you potentially have three that would have gone. I had a calamari the best case scenario by far is that the team does very badly three and four win range. But Rosen really establishes himself and the dolphins a year from now, do what the cardinals did, which is to draft to or just an. Herbert or whoever from or or Jake from all three of those probably would have been slotted ahead of Kyla Murray, exactly. And then, and then all of a sudden Josh Rosen who year for now it's still only twenty three years old has proven himself the past season this coming season more than he did as a rookie. And he's got real trade value, a when does that happen where a guy has a great season at quarterback. But the team is terrible. It's not like baseball where a guy could have a great individual season and the team could still be awful. But if a quarterback has a great season the team is not going to generally meet, too, and we're not talking about terrible, though. We're talking about seven wins the Cleveland Browns just had seven wins with Baker Mayfield. And everyone's had has kingdom as the next great quarterback. So you can absolutely do it. And you could probably do it this way. Because remember tyrod Taylor started off the season is about two and a half game Fitchet, Patrick will be our tyrod Taylor. Yeah. How do you approach the start of the season because you have Josh Rosen last year? Obviously didn't go well for him, he seems like a pretty confident dude, but he. The dolphins come out of the gates with four playoff teams now through the phonemes or at home. Yeah. But it's very tough Josh Rosen. It could be a little fragile of a situation and you don't wanna break going against a really awesome ravens defense. We all know what the patriots are world champions at Dallas. Am back home against the chargers four playoff teams. It might be best to go with the veteran savvy and the fits magic of Ryan Fitzpatrick at the start. And then you have your by week. And then you insert Josh Rosen as a fans call for, you know, productivity. Yeah, that's that, that's a reasonable scenario to me. The worst case scenario for the dolphins is you, you start with you go with its Patrick. He's your guy. You let you let Rosen. Learn from Fitzpatrick this season. You go with Fitz, Patrick, and they win six or seven games. That's you're spinning your wheels. At that point. You can't do that. And they're probably dolphin fans that are really committed to this whole tank for two thing and say six or seven wins. I really don't think it get too out of your. Mind, you need to find a franchise quarterback, and even with six wins, you'll have trade assets, whether it be Rosen developing, or you sacrifice a future first round pick to move up. There are three quarterbacks they're not all going number one. You can move up into the draft. If you're aggressive enough. Yeah, the and the good thing is that so many teams who needed quarterbacks have gotten quarterbacks in the past couple of years that you're right? The third best quarterback Jake fromm, he might not go in the top ten next year, even though he's top ten qualities, simply because so many games like the cardinals like the Browns like the jets have their franchise quarterback. Now what you need to watch out for. I think next year is, as quarterbacks stored aging, Philip rivers, Ben Rothlisberger. You have to account for some of those teams trying to get their next in line and the patriots and the patriots and maybe a team like Cincinnati decides okay, we're, we're at the tannahill level right now with Andy Dalton, we need to move on because they have a new head coach in there. So I think right now you look around the teams and everyone sort of has. As address a quarterback issue with the exception of the Miami Dolphins next year could be totally different case. You're right. And and but other than the dolphins, I would've said the Bengals there aren't that many other teams that, that absolutely need a quarterback right now. Am I the only one who wants to a little bit less because he's a lefty. Do you guys look at quarterbacks that are lefties, and you're just like was she was a righty? Oh, you mean like steel now I know are examples of good ones. But just in general when I see a quarterback that's a lefty. I'm like ooh. If tool was a righty. I would be all, entertain for too, right? But just the fact that he's a lefty. I mean, I don't know what I'm doing obviously, it's a rate lived handed people. Right. I just from a quarterback position like in baseball. You show me a baseball prospect, who's a lefty hitter. I'm like, all hall as the guy we need. But some recent quarterback I want him to be a righty. The only factor that gives credence to what you're saying. The only factor to me is that then you're right. Tackle becomes very important. Yeah, that's the blindsided. Yeah. And the dolphins have premier left. Hackel. They moving Laremy Tunsil to right? Tackle would they know they could they potentially because in it right? Tackle they could they could. But, but the ideal is you want your best, offensive lineman to be your left tackle in and to him. Right, only because that's a blind track. If the right tackle, all of a sudden becomes a blindside, then I think Tunsil moves around right? That, that could be the and they did sign a pretty solid right tackle a few weeks ago. So I don't think the dolphins offensive line is awful as you think the centers, pretty good if he's healthy who signed wait. They lost your Juan James. They obviously struggled with the injuries are any of those guys that got hurt last year coming back or they no longer on the plans, those that guy that was as big as a house. He's gone sitting. Right. I think he went isn't Kilgore. I don't have my roster in front of me. You know, it's may I haven't memorized me we're looking at this roster. We have all sorts of question marks about the edge rusher on the stalled yet. That's a big. That's a big hole right now. I mean dolphins, Jeff charge. What was the criteria for your top? Fifteen hundred twenty-five like how did you rank them since? They're in different sports. Is it just based on field that stuff? I obviously started with a complete list of, of every teams twenty five and under player, which was, you know, probably a total of odd way doing that. You started just crossing people and eighty percent of them. You know you put a big X through them right away. Who's that guy? What? But then you get, you know it was tough to who were the first five out like who are some of the guys that you didn't leave on that you didn't have on here that you almost for example, our will Wilson just misses a cut six years. Right. Jack Albert Wilson's age to he could be included. Of course I did. I did. Absolutely. And, and there were a couple of guys. I included like Uber dough from the Panthers who barely made it were does like twenty five years, and three hundred and ten days or something. So he barely snuck in. He's an excellent player Jess Hct. Yeah. And I put them lower because he is twenty five you know, a part of the criteria on my list is if I've got two guys of equal talent or promise. In one twenty one and the other twenty five I put the twenty one year old at fifteen you had Christian Wilkins, the rookie, just draft fourteen yet. Victor Victor, Mesa thirteen. You had glad twelve you had Josh Richardson eleven. You had Pablo Lopez feel like Pablo's a little high feel like Eck Blad Josh Richardson, a bit of ahead of him from your article directly. You're saying that his numbers aren't, great. He's three and five win loss record with this Marlin seem as never going to be impressed. But he does have a five year Ray, which ain't great do you take into account that he's doing this, the major league level versus someone at the minor league or Greg. Yeah. I do in the Marlins love Pablo Lopez. He's got I think he's the guy with the great right strikeout, walk ratio. I think he's got like fifty strikeouts and twelve walks or something. I mean that's that's impressive. And they, they like him a lot. You know I go a lot by how the teams feel about these guys like I really struggled with where to place auto. Auto and Justice Winslow and Josh Richardson because you could make an argument that any of the three of them have have a bigger future, but and the, the heater in love with bam. Bam and he he's working on the game. They're gonna experience. I thought, yeah. He's working with Chris Bosh, which is very exciting. He's proven himself to be a tremendous ball handler for size you can initiate offense. I thought the really interesting thing was that you put bam over Justice, and as coming off a very good year. I import they didn't make the playoffs because Justin was a little nicked up towards the end of this. He really shined, replacing Goran Dragic and having the ball in his hair a little low. I don't agree with having Josh Rosen, head of Justice Winslow when Winslow is already made contributions, and we don't know what Rosen is. That's yeah. A little that was a leap of faith with me being a believer in Josh Rosen, Justice Winslow, improved his shooting a little bit, but still is not a great shooter. He's a very dependable three points writer. Right. But but overall field go present. What was he? Forty two percent of he needs to get some touch. My biggest beef with your article was you had Laremy Tunsil at number two, and Xavi and Howard who just got paid line with what is the best contract for a corner in the league. Yes. Avian Howard at number four things. Avian Howard is proven more than bam on a bio at three. He's proven more certainly than Laremy Tunsil. He's right. A Barkov I think is a clear number one. Why did you put that there was that just you projecting Tunsil and bam to be better than saving Howard to be better than someone who's paid best at his position? Well, Tunsil is going to be paid the mound to extend tonsils contract. And, and make him a possibly the best paid left tackle. I think tonsils done as much as exhibiting Howard tonsils the, the best tackle not to make a Pro Bowl, yet similar, because playing for the dolphins you're sort of a no man's land, but you certainly could make an argument that Howard should be the highest rank dolphin. You know, the whole list is subjective, you know, and I wrestled with a lot of well, should my guy ranked thirteenth be hire them. I guy ranked night, you know, but I. Want it to be a conversation piece. You know, I want fans to read this and say, wow. This guy's rank way to lie. Or this guy's ranked a little low south Florida sports. Thanks you in the next segment. I want to tackle something with Greg, Cody that he doesn't really tackle because he's notoriously. He hasn't seen a movie in the theaters. Sing since swing vote the Kevin Costner via. But I wonder if he's seen, because I know your big Elton John fan, right? Rocket man. We get your thoughts on rocket man. Next. Donlevatar. Okay. John. Yeah. That's a good question. I was going to ask that is everything. Okay. Oh, cough night, allergies. So it makes me okay. No problem, Stu. Gods? You'll get. Yeah. Y-. Okay. Jeff yoga. How about you? I'm thanks for your concern. Never had anyone I've never met this concerned over the house. I appreciate it. Okay. I'm a big fan. Let me now I'm not okay. I don't care how I'm doing anyway. More. True. Even now. She sees the donlevatar show with stugatz on the ticket, Greg. I have a bit of a conundrum that I'd like your help with your along with the listeners of possible. Seven eight six four five six four three seven. I thought about making this a helping container but I don't want to abuse the power of the helping container and the help from the audience. So I'm not going to do that. Also, I need the help and usually I am moderating. The helping container. So it would be difficult. So here's the deal. I'll just give you a quick little back story. This weekend was a long weekend, obviously. And I went to siesta key, Florida lovely place. It was very nice, whether it was great. So when I was there we were, you know, preparing to have Long Beach days, and I went, and we took a tent to, to go have our, our beach days, and I was setting up the tent and I quickly realized I left a very important aspect of the tent behind. Can you guess what I left behind Greg, you probably left behind the hammer that pounds in the pegs more? Than that. I left the stakes behind that would hold down the tent themselves. Oh, yeah. And an a helpful friend Samis struggling with the fact that the ten it was a windy day. And the tent was kinda kept getting picked up by the wind. So he said, hey, I have extra stakes if you'd like to borrow them. I said, oh my God. Thank you. You're an angel. Why don't know if I said that. Exactly. But I was thinking he wasn't ngelo. So then the day, you know, we had a nice day. He was next to me him, and his family were next to me. We shared hamburgers stranger Aures. Yeah. I didn't know him. And then I saw him panta packing up because he had kids. So they were packing up a little earlier. They're going to go back to whatever it is that they were going to do. So I was in the water. I came back. I took out the stakes and I said, hey here you go. And he said, no, no, no. We're going to be here till Monday. Hold onto them. Just give them to me on Monday. You can use them for the weekend. So this guy is really nice, the next day, I got out there a little bit later and the group that I was with setup further down the beach from where he was. So we didn't interact on Sunday, and then yesterday, you know, back in my mind, the whole day, I'm like, man, I need to give this guy his stakes back before he goes, he had mentioned us from Miami. He's like, we need. I need to give him a stick five before he goes. So I went to the beach, specifically with that in mind that instead of my tent. But I had the steaks with me. He wasn't there now. Oh boy, he and his family were kind of socializing with another family. They were there. So I saw them. And I said, hey, are you friends with the group that was there because he let me some steaks, and they're like, well there for Miami were not we kind of just met? So I really want to get this guy. Stakes back and I don't know how to go about that. 'cause I think most people would say, hey, you know what forget it? But no, no, no. I don't wanna forget it. Do you have the six with you right now? I have three stakes with me right now that I'd like to get back to this lovely man. Those are well done. Stay, they they are. They were brand new mobile app bucket. Is they say brand new stakes that I want to send back to him because I don't want them and they were he said they were extras. But still, I'd like to get them back to him because that was the agreement that we reached that I'd give them back to him. Did he originally give you four? No. He only gave me three. I'm glad that you acid, and I want on the front and say, I did not lose a steak I three stakes that I'd like to get back to him. So this was your classic four corner tent. Right. It was what what we did was we dug holes and we kind of put it deep into the ground. And then we make like mountains around the legs to hold them in place. But then he offered the stakes and you know added security, so I use the stakes but I'd like to get them back to them. So if you know someone who is in siesta key this weekend, who lent me three stakes please. Reach out to me at the. The helping container at gmaiLcom. Do you have a name no name? I don't want to say his name because I feel like what's going to happen is everyone's going to say, hey, it's me, and they're going to say his name. So I'd like to if possible when you send the Email include a picture of the man, or if you are, in fact, the man himself send me a picture because I know what you look like I know who you are. And he also hold on a second. I have to call there would be a lot of odd, because those steaks have to have cost like twenty cents each. I mean, those are I want to do the right thing here and I want to get this man, his stakes back. All right. When you said stakes I was expecting these big like, yeah, you're looking at things. Peer unimpressive out. Three Allen, wrench, the. The. These things did the job guys. All right. Man. Shop doing table for my Kia fries. Christopher knows what an Allen wrenches. These things held this ten in place, and it both protected me and everyone around me because if that thing would have gotten up in the air, that would have done some damage. Just get four rocks and put them on the corner of the tent. I'm not an outdoor act. Like there's just a bunch of rocks on the BGN Iraq's. It'll be no really. Six years. Coral rock or something, rip the ten when's the last time you were at the beach like, honestly in a bathing suit at the beach. Wait. I love fourth of July fourth of July you always pass out with your friend as he. He. That's right. He has a bunch of Miller way and falls asleep on the sand thrown within it happy independence, debt. Right. God bless America. So that's the last time you've been on the beach. Oh, yeah. We're the beach, Greg. You could find a rock. Oh, yeah. No, you totally could find a rock. They're everywhere. Greg was that. The happiest like your favorite time of year. Is it passing out on the beach alive for is what's better than that? What other weekend? That's one of the few family traditions, their, their traditions, Mike, that I know of with Greg Cody and drinking one is that one and Chris one is embarrassing his wife every year at the office gala by wearing a lampshade on his head and doing drunk. Karaoke, you you always wear lampshade on your head. It only fits by the way on this beach thing. He was always famous because it would be a bunch of dad's. It'd be him in two of his buddies. Greg was always famous for like four or five in the morning, sneaking away and going into the hotel room where where my mom was. And they would be mad at breaking the pack right us. Right. By that time. I needed a little eight. See, I mean, but this was with this wasn't actually camping on the beach. We were just set up on the beach. We had like a tailgate. Okay. When you pass out on the beach you would just fall asleep on the. With nothing protecting your body from the sand. Well, sort of giving the illusion that you were washed ashore. Now. Like a beach WALE. No. Sometimes we had a tarp. Sometimes we slept on a tar, the reason they would do it is because we would have a whole setup and they would keep the tent they would protect it from, you know, our domain. They had many a time where in the night. I don't know if it was homeless people that were, they would be under attack. It'd be store. We'd all come up the next morning and they'd be like oh you should have seen the last night. These guys ran up on us, and it was interesting. It was equal parts. Ran up on you. Oh, yeah. It was equal parts. Homeboy tried to ransack you. Yes. Either homeless people or marauding teenagers, and you so fring beers. What do you say do a couple of marauding teenagers at tried to pill for your setup? Well, you know, you're yell as if give me an example. Give me an example. I liked the way humans are supposed to be with bears. Hey, hey teenager, right there. And then, you know, you, you act like somebody might have a gun. You know, Mike, I want you to imagine I want you to imagine late night, marauding teenagers. And now Greg, Cody emerging from the slumber that seventeen beards is caused like what? Yeah. Won't be any misunderstanding correction, I may have a gun. And then the next morning, the teenagers are retailing story. And it's like we went by this camps, I, we're trying to steal a couple of years, and all of a sudden this drunk guy, sits bolt upright and gold year never know if I may have a gun. Sing song. Get outta here. Never know trip over cans, and then just go. They. Thank you. And then everybody starts singing along it's like doom by three AM. If you guys get a load Saturday night in New York of Greg, Cody well, past his limit on forties. I really regret that. You were pretty drunk. Well, after the cowboy I wasn't I wasn't drunk on. You did forget to where the cowboy hat on staying home were wearing it after I brought it I loved it through TSA upscale hotel bar. That's it feels like a nightclub everyone there's dressed like they're going to a nightclub and Greg, Cody there with a cowboy hat and just drinking, it all owning the room, by the way, literally winning it. And also singing trailers. Stay little rent. I gotta finish that line when anybody when I hear the word trailers, even if it's not the beginning of that song. I just finished that online. What's the rest of it rooms for rent fifty cent rooms to let fifty cents? You never really get that far. It just trailing. Stay little rent. A good him. It never gets to the second lyric fading away. Plus, Roger Miller, Chris, how often when do you I remember hearing that in your childhood because I've been listening, you're dead sing that for about forty years, anytime? He exits the shower bread DeeDee. Brad, Brad in, when he burps, he says, Brad totally untrue. That is true. When he's burping he tries to conceal it by just shouting, the name bread. That's right question, Brad person in your past. It's just what his belches sound like they sound like the name Brad, Brad. But then you'd note, by the way, made the finals who really know Obrad that you've ever spoken to. And if you're saying, Brad after you every time, everyone would know your burping still, I know two prominent Brad's and what I'm trying to do is. I'm trying to dress up the burp because the normal, the normal sound of burp is rather off putting. You know what I'm saying? Okay. So you give it a name comes a little more classy, even more elegant name. I think you need a one syllable name clearly, no white. Clearly, we'll be burps than to be, once they, you know, is there classy wants a little name 'cause read, no but Brad's not class. Have you workshop to other names before you settled on Brad, it's natural comes naturally to me. That's the beauty of it, Chris. I feel like we should start a new segment. Chris reveals weird things about his father. I think if you went home and started collecting them, things like that would emerge all the time. I mean he for some reason he referred in his household to farts as pets. Right. That was a family tradition. Just let let a pet who led a pet. Chris knows all these things. He doesn't have to go home and studies. Just just trying to out the bread. And his father's been coming here for years without us hearing that story, he's got to be thinking one of the weird things my father does come up with a list for next week. They're really. I'm right now doing Socratic names only aristocratic one, simple, name that I found so far is Bo. But I'm just still working aether be. We'll Bradley is pretty aristocratic but we need one syllable, according to your room with Brad. So I am bread. Cage. Gauge that's not a risk critic say h. Grace grace because people might now to play on a prayer. I love the word grace. How about? Got there. This is how he does radio. He doesn't run through on the air. He forgets that you have to fill the breach with word. Like he starts thinking. I like that. Name hear the phrase. Silence is golden Quinn. Win. Yeah. Wasn't that the name of the fishermen in John's I think it was actually it was a great. Or the or the sheriff knows fish Quinn was. Oh. Yeah. Can't beer from Brad. Let's, let's just make that comedy. Quinn's can you name Quin Snyder when Buckner when the eskimo? Yeah. Like that, that's an ace, so three give three quince. Yeah, I right. Because there's Robert Quinn kit that quince Quincy. Right. Krinsky Jones and whatnot. Quincy Jones Goodwin. Roy how about Bruce Roussaly? This is thrown at first name. On that Clair's. Not on that list. It's not considered an aristocratic name. I'm David I'm very confused. By trailers say, Hello rent about Archie that didn't use. Now, it is you saw the Archie, not one syllable. No, it isn't. Let's you say arch, if you're just joining us, we're talking about how Alexander Barkat Greg, Cody number one, twenty five. Kip? Why do you sing that song? At all times. Why is it the song that has endured in your life as long as I've known you? Why is that like where what are the roots of that song being something that you've sung for the better part of four decades? Just love it to death. I love it like my own grandchild. It's a it's a song. It's one of the I think it might be the first song I ever felt comfortable having known all the lyrics. It was the first time I could sing all the way through because it's such a simple song, great Americana song. Are you gonna watch rocking men in the theaters? Are you actually go to the movie theaters? For the first time since Kevin Costner swing vote time, I am going to go on opening night may thirty relying. No, you're not. Yes, I am. I bought to, you know, nowadays, I didn't even know this. But my wife said Noah, you can reserve tickets and a theater. I to me, it's, it's been that way for a couple of years. Theaters anyway. My wife bought two tickets. It turns out, she's going to be out of town. So I'm going with my younger son. Michael, we're going to be there on may thirty first opening night. I'm going to be excited of seeing all the trailers, you know, it used to be a movie had one trailer and others. Right. Nine say Hilo rent now. There's like nine different trailers. I've seen every one of them. Mike. That's right. That's right. It's the one Cody wheelhouse. And yes, my we'll have to queue him every time. Someone says trailers? I can I can tell you, you know, there's been criticism of that movie and, and some of it's legit, but I'm still really looking for. And what are, what are the criticisms that are going around? Well, the, the big criticism is that for creative purposes? They're changing the timeline like Elton in nineteen seventy had a famous show at the troubadour that really established him. And that was his Rocketship, no pun intended into stardom at that time in the movie, I don't wanna spoiler alert in the movie at the troubadour. He sings crocodile rock, which hadn't even been written for like, three years. So there's line issues like that. It's not a totally faithful totally accurate movie in terms of the time line. But it's a fantasy. I it's, it's a true fantasy is, is the way they're phrasing. And so they take a little liberty with. So it's a bit of a NASA trip, kinda it. Yes. It's very trippy. You know, you don't associate Elton with psychedelia, but he, he did come up in that nineteen sixty-nine seventy. Nice age, there's no way Greg walks out of that. Eater, not saying he loved the movie he's to Intel and John, too. He's gonna love it, regardless. I am predisposed to love it. I will admit that. Yeah, I, queen's one of my all time favorite bands. I came away very disappointed. I think when your expectations are so high for something you, you can't be right. I feel like because of seen so many different types of trailers, that I know, the film a little bit, and some of the casting is, is pretty interesting. So Joel, you're talking, who's the kid that's playing out and John Edgerton? Yeah, yeah. What do you think about that casting? He was most famous for what the nights men. Yes. The secret service movie and I like the casting, because he does the singing in this movie. Unlike unlike the guy, unlike ram Molek, lip synching, Freddie, Mercury tyranny, does all the singing. And he's pretty credible. He's pretty good. Yeah. Surprised that with the voice outings, they decided to go with the actors pails and compare. But it's a nice little touch. It is indeed. So we need a full report when he come back from the movies, because I wonder what's changed about movie theaters since sowing the first movie that, Greg Cody has watched in the theater was swing vote two thousand eight two thousand nine oh I think even longer than it was back further. I mean who could reserve a seat in the movie ridiculous? Everybody been everybody. Knew theaters since two thousand eight. Every ten years, I go to theater seats recline now to carefully might fall asleep. You're going to one of those new fangled. We might get a back in my dad. Chris, I do think that you should grab grab some details like Gabrielle union has been making the circuit making fun of all the things that Duane doesn't know funny car wash twenty dollar milk carton target. I believe Chris, that you can find also some funny things that your dad doesn't know technologically. Gotti kidding me. The fact that he doesn't know that movie tickets can be reserved that he's, he's consistently getting shut out of the box office. So is it a is it Brad while you burping or Brad immediately following not? Brad is the burp. So it's like the verb is dressed read. Well, yeah, the dressed in the word bread. It's usually the air comes out. And then the Brad trail Brad, it's weird. You can't. Blessing yourself. Have you tried Ralph? Ralph would be good rows ago. My family goes with Ralph. Ralph ralph. Ing is well vomiting is rallying your family, does not do this. I just Rachel. Say Rao Ralph is good. Got got here. Disgusting five seconds ago and already he's better at it than Greg Cody has been for three decades.

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Poetry at Work

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Poetry at Work

"Leslie via Sonora Marshall. It's daily email from a website called days of the year like the day. We're releasing this episode. February eighteenth is Pluto Day as in the DWARF PLANET. Drink wine day and eat ice cream for breakfast day also battery day. Are you generally like on Wednesday or Thursday? We'll look ahead for the following week and fifth or something I can tie into so I put him on my calendar ahead of time and then I get ready to had about a week and notice that it was going to be poetry work Dan. I thought Oh this is fun. I'm GonNa do something with this one. Leslie works in Fundraising at National Louis University in Chicago and only with Leslie looking forward to poetry at workday but she knew just what poem to bring in for the occasion. I found this poem when I my husband and I were out for dinner at one of our favorite neighborhood restaurants so they have this poster and it says be like a pineapple so the poem is be like a pineapple stand tall where a crown and be sweet on the inside. Leslie brought this poem to work recited it to our colleagues. She also passed out pineapples made at a rice paper. Why went all over the building and made people listen to me in the Elevator Jan? Outside of the classroom any opportunity I had where there was a gathering of people I would share my pineapple. I started out and I say okay. I'm going to share my palm. Then I say be like a pineapple and everyone looks at me and then I say stand tall and everybody's stance tall. They change their posture. So it's like they are listening to the palm and then I say where a crown and everybody smiles and then I say and be sweet on the inside and everyone goes. Aw It's short and it is sweet and it elicits a response. Almost one hundred percent of the time. Roses are red as God as my witness. Rework so show about how to do business. I'm Sean Hillier Waylon. Juan workday is the second Tuesday in January. So it kind of missed it this year. But that doesn't mean we can't bring poetry to work on other days of the year to today on rework look at the ways. Poetry can enrich your work life and a few of colleagues at base camp. Come on to shape homes that are meaningful to them. I up waylon talks to the creator of poetry at Workday and take your poet to workday. Which is the third Wednesday of July? I'm Lara Bar. Cats you would know may as night author name online which would allow our cat. I'm a writer. Author publisher when an child. My mom would read poetry to us every day before we got on the school bus. I remember one. That would always make us cry. Tommy African chiefs and it was about this person who had been kidnapped from his tribe in Africa and brought to America on a slave ship. But it was fairly graphic actually needed to cry when she read this to us. Laura found her way back to poetry as an adult when she got involved in online writing communities. Her website tweets speak. Poetry has been around since two thousand nine and grew out of twitter. Community that when meet up to share responses to poetry prompts we had developed this idea that poetry should be for life not for ivory tower. The idea for poetry at Work Day came up and as usual nineteenth out it was just a joke and I took it seriously always take seriously our jokes. I think that in our whimsy. That's where we often find our deepest most important projects ideas is INS heart. Why take to work? I think poetry causes shifts in thinking can wake us up. It helps create new scripts. You know we don't have these scripts that we have in our heads when we have that between friends family members also coworkers memorizing poems together. Having say what I would call Palomas in leading place kids something to hold in common into fall back on this great poem by Tony. Hoagland called Wasp one point in the poem. He says human beings should have a warning label on side that says disorganized narratives in. Sat. You're you're getting into it with a co-worker new half a second to remember. That line is organized narrative inside healthy Back Save yourself you know. What can I do to wait for that narrative to come out in more fullness can I listen I like the way poetry can give us these little phrases that become new scripts in our minds? Tell the steelers people I think poetry. Kinda can save people from their worst impulses because it gives them something to think about. It gave me a lot to think about still does everyday. Don Share is the editor of Poetry magazine. You can be there with you and it can get you through the day and it can get you through like hard times. It can be fun on a good day. I I liked the idea of making it part of like a normal regular life because it is I'm reminded of John Ashbery poem called the Instruction Manual. And it has these lines in it as I sit looking out of a window of the building. I wish I did not have to write the instruction manual on the uses of a new metal. I looked down into the street and SEE PEOPLE. Each walking with an inner peace envy them. They are so far away from me. Not One of them has to worry about getting out this manual on-schedule that connection between work in poetry is a little complicated because most people were because they have to. Some people are working what they do because they're lucky and choose to but all of us have the feeling that work can be constricting and confining so poetry can sort of give you like those lines do away of sort of looking out just sorta like taking that little pause for your imagination to remind you that you're alive that you are more than what you have to do but you have to do anyway. I mean Philip. Larkin has a famous home in the First Line say why should I let the toed work squad on my life? I mean who hasn't asked that question right. It's like you wake up and you're like Oh why why. Why so the connection between poetry and work is real and there are a lot of poems that connect with that instead of ad breaks in this episode. We thought it might be fun to do. Little basecamp poetry breaks so I up. Here's our colleague Lexi from Base Camps Customer Support Team so this is Nikki. Giovanni poem that I thought of when I was listening to the episode of the podcast about the office. And how we're moving. And when you and Jason were describing the ideal scenario it made me think of this poem. it's called my first memory of librarians. This is my first memory. A big room with heavy wooden tables that sat on a creaky wood floor a line of green shades bankers lights down the center heavy oak chairs that were too low. Or maybe I was simply too short for me to sit in and read so. My first book was always big in the foyer up. Four steps a semicircle. Desk presided to the left side. The card catalogue on the right newspapers draped over what looked like a quilt rack. Magazine spaced out from the wall. The welcoming smile of my librarian the anticipation in my heart. All those books another world just waiting at my fingertips. I think for a lot of us. The last time we spent any time reading poetry was back in high school and that experience was probably not the greatest. You know I remember. We had to memorize poems and one of them started out. It's famous palm and it was. This is the forest primeval and I was a kid and I was like I'd never seen a forest and I didn't know it primeval man so we got off on. The wrong foot. Seems to me what happens. Is You get to high school. And the poem Becomes Object. An object that you're analyzing INTERCON poking at it and turning it over and you're not encountering as a as a living kind of entity as a message a call from someone else's heart to your heart. I didn't know there was such a thing as a living poet. I thought they were all like dead white guys with long beards. You know and a lot of them were but Allen Ginsberg came to town and somebody talked me into seeing Allen Ginsberg so I saw a living real famous poet so cool. This was in the early seventies when John was sixteen years old and growing up in Memphis Tennessee. He was just wild and fascinating and I thought Oh. That's a kind of poetry. They weren't going to tell us about in those days. The first thing he did was he meditated. He said Home M- and he did never a long time and everybody was kind of like. Wow this is not what we expected. And then with the harmonium. He started playing what turned out to be. Blake. Poems set to very primitive kind of harmonium music and I just thought this was like a rock concert. Honestly it had music. It had a kind of the Atra Calorie to it and he was a great performer and it was the first time words in a poem came alive for me in any way and then sort of from there. I used to get in trouble in school and they would send me to the library as punishment and so I I'd be there. Had nothing to do is just keeping me out of circulation well in most libraries poaching. Books are the ones that are still on the shelf because they don't get checked out a lot so I just started reading. I would pull book off the shelf and read it. And he's finding great stuff that they didn't tell me about who's right there the whole time. So that's kind of weird all started and nobody told me what to read. Nobody told me what was good or bad or who was. I didn't know who is famous. And who wasn't and I start walking around school with book upon some people would sort of. Give me a funny looking. I liked that it was a little offbeat and at the same time I discovered. There was a lot of people like me doing that. Same thing kind of the rebelliousness or secretiveness of poetry. It kind of felt interesting and cool but most importantly there were poems. That really spoke to me. And I didn't know that they existed. And the only way for me to discover them was three poke around and there was a whole world that I got into but did have an English teacher in high school and she just got. It took me aside and she said you know. Why don't you do something useful without this energy that you seem to have like instead of disrupting class? You know we're making you know SMART. Alec remarks once you write some stuff down. It's like Oh because I didn't think it was okay to write my own stuff down. I thought I had to read what everybody else had written done. Continue to read and write poetry into adulthood and eventually landed at Poetry magazine becoming in two thousand thirteen and we design produce and create a monthly magazine. And that is a business. Even though we're a nonprofit and we have a tight production schedule because we were four issues at a time and basically we published three magazines. There's the print magazine. There's the one on the website and there's the one in the APP and each production system is completely different. We got one hundred fifty thousand poems submitted here year so much of my life is connected to poetry that everything sort of filters in in just the right way of course donnas the outlier the rare person who does poetry at work fulltime but there are lots of small ways to introduce poetry. Enter your work day. You can go to tweet speak poetry. Laura bar cats website and sign up for a daily email poem. That goes out Monday through Friday. The Poetry Foundation which publishes Poetry Magazine has an audio palm of the day at its website and does a weekly podcast and I've been listening to a short daily podcast called the slowdown where Tracy K Smith who was the. Us Poet laureate reads the poem. Don Share says not to be intimidated by poetry. Just dive in and see what you like. People worry too much. You don't have to understand everything you might not understand any of it but if you like it you like it. That's it and on the other hand. If you don't like it you don't have to succeed. It's the poetry scene and hopefully from that seed grows the smallest of ideas. Like maybe I can start taking poetry bike instead of just a coffee break. Just a lunch break. Maybe you know instead of most of there's anything necessarily wrong with spending your whole break scrolling through Guilty guilty. I've done it myself but to say well maybe I'll take opposed to break instead. Feed my stirrup feed my mind feed my soul and on that note. Let's take another basement poetry break. Here's Matthew Vincent. A member of our OPS team on clothes by Leeann juvenile and the weaver said speak to us of clothes and he answered your clothes conceal much of your beauty. Yet they hide not the beautiful garments freedom of privacy. You may find them a harness and a chain would that you could meet the sun and the wind with more of your skin and less of your arraignment for the breath of life is in the sunlight and the hand of life is in the wind. You say it is the North Wind has woven the clothes we wear and I say I it was the north wind. Shame was loom and the softening of the city is says thread and when his work was done. He laughed in the forest. Forget not that modesty is for a shield against the eye of the unclean and when the unclean shall be no more what we're modesty fetter and fouling of the mind and forget not diverse delights to feel your bare feet and the winds law. Play with your hair. There's a famous poem by William Carlos. Williams called this is just to say it goes. I have eaten the plums that were in the icebox in which you're probably saving for breakfast. Forgive me they were delicious so sweet and so cold. If this sounds familiar it may be because became a twitter me. I'm a couple of years ago with people. Riffing on the original poem than combining it with Song lyrics and so on this poem popped into my head while doing this episode because it occurred to me that the shared office fridge is kind of a fraught place an coworkers. Maybe don't have conflicts over eating each other's plums but may be they do have conflicts over eating each other's leftover Thai food or whatever. Actually it turns out that the kitchen in the offices a poetry magazine does inspire worse every once in a while. Here we do find some verse or allusions diverse on a post it note and this little staff kitchen and I did one day. Find a wonderful posted at said. There are a lot of low to cedars here and it was very funny because this idea of low to cedars goes way back through mythology. Where if you are low to cedar you sort of you're hallucinating. It's like a drug and you're sort of mind is in the clouds and stuff like that. And there's actually a poem called the low to Cedars by Alfred Lord Tennyson. And so you do that once in a while. This sort of scrawl or graffiti. That's almost real poetry around here and the freedom to do that in the work place is something. I urge everybody to take up. I mean just imagine if you left the liner to poetry on posted in your staff kitchen in other way to take your poetry at work. Game to the next level is trying what Laura and her colleagues are doing which studying one poem together for a year. Here's the one they chose. You don't know the kind of person I am and I don't know the kind of person you are a pattern that others made in the world may prevail in following the wrong God home we move star. There's many small trail in the mind shrug that let's fragile sequence. Rake sending shouts the horrible errors of childhood storming out to play from broken dike in his elephants parade holding each elephants tail. But it formed wanders. Circus won't find the park. I call it cruel. Maybe the root of all cruelty to know what occurs recognize the fact so I appeal to voice to something shadowy remote important region in all talk only could fool each other. We should consider less the parade of our mutual life. Get lost in the dark important. That'll wake people awake breaking line. May discourage them back to sleep. The answers weekends s now. A navy should be clear. Darkness around US instinct. That's a ritual to read to each other by Williams offered every team in America and all leadership groups in America should read this poem with each other before they start their meetings first. Allies poem has a lot of space in it for thinking considering and asks something of us. Something of us in the a way that we behave. It's one another you know. I don't like to make really grandiose claims about poetry because they're not true like poach doesn't make you a better person or the world would be full of great people and even posts themselves are often terrible. People say I wouldn't want to be married to Ted Hughes but he's great poet but no way There are a lot of poets. Have an had terrible political views racist misogynist the whole thing because poets are different from other people and they're not better than other people. Either you know. I don't like to have an exalted view of poetry. That makes these big claims for I don't know of poetry induces empathy and other people. I'm sort of dubious can but I'm not sure about that because look at it this way I get all these hundred fifty thousand pumps year will not everybody. Sending him to me is an empathetic wonderful person. I may not be myself right so I'm worried about that because I don't think again. It's sort of like a vegetable. That's good for you. I don't think it works that way. A lot of poems. Have the purpose of alienating people. There are poems that are designed to provoke their provocations. Like other kinds of our can be. They may be nasty on purpose. That's a legitimate purpose poetry as it would be for film painting even music you know. Some stuff is designed to confront people with realities. That are no fun So it has other things to do besides make people better and I don't. Frankly know of any poets right upon to make anybody better at the same time. It can be very very healthy to read palms even unpleasant ones to wake you up one of the things. That poetry does in. Can-do is it reminds you that there are people who have different values and ideas than you do and it can connect you with them and it's a way for people to have differences. Were without violence without conflict that intimacy. That's in poetry humanizes things so that at the least it may not make better but it can help make you more aware of what it's like to be a person somewhere else it does remind you of our own kind of humanity and gives you that insight into what might make things better for people but APLOMB ALONE. Camberley do that. I mean we have to do that today. My calendars telling me answer your questions. Do you have a cat? I do you know some cats Don't spend a Lotta time asking questions. I think. They think they're above that they don't have to deal with. Have you read your cat? The pineapple poem. I have not but I have read my dog the Pineapple Bowl. Oh how did they react? So she just looked at me quizzically. She's a cute little wonderful dog poetry as matter thing that's rear is produced by. Waylon long and me Sean. Our theme music is by Clip Art. Stick around past the credits because we have one more basecamp poetry break. This time from troy the director of operations here basecamp Laura Bar. Cats website is L. L. Barkat DOT COM and tweet speak. Poetry is at tweet speak poetry dot com where you can find little cutouts of famous poets that you can color and put on a popsicle stick to bring in for ticker poet to workday in July. You can also sign up for their daily poetry email. The Poetry Foundation is at Poetry Foundation Dot. Org and the Poetry magazine. Podcast can be found wherever you listen to rework and Leslie's favorite poem about the Pineapple is credited to an entrepreneur named Catherine Gaskin. She's on Instagram at Cat Gaskin now. Here's our colleague Choi with the Benediction for all of us. My Poem for poetry work is blessing for those who are exhausted by John. O'donoghue this just really struck a chord with me. Recently as we were going through the holidays and struggling to get work things wrapped up and getting teenagers ready and offer the holidays and all of the things that come about that this really was just a reminder that sometimes slowing down and connecting with yourself is an important aspect of life and work and really everything so here we are blessing for those who were exhausted when the rhythm of the heart becomes hectic time takes on the strain until it breaks then all the unattended stress falls in on the mind like an endless increasing weight. The LIGHT IN THE MIND BECOMES DIM. Things you could take in your stride before now become labor some events of will weariness invades your spirit. Gravity begins falling inside. You dragging down every bone. The tide you never valued has gone out. And you are marooned on unsure ground. Something within you has closed down and you cannot push yourself back to life you have been forced to enter empty time the desire that drove. You has relinquished. There is nothing else to do now but rest and patiently learned to receive the self you have forsaken for the race of days at first. You're thinking will darken and sadness will take over like listless weather the flow of an wept. Tears will frighten you. You have traveled to fast over false ground. Now your soul has come to take you back. Take refuge in your senses up to all the small miracles you rush through become inclined to watch the way of rain when it falls slow. Free imitate the habit of twilight taking time to open the well of color that fostered the brightness of day draw alongside the silence of stone until it's calmness can claim you be excessively gentle with yourself. Stay clear of those vexed and spirit learned to linger around someone of ease. Who feels they have? All the time in the world. Gradually you will return to yourself having learned a new respect for your heart and the joy that dwells far within slow time. Roses are red as God is my witness. Rework is a show about how to do business. I'm Sean Hyllner This is a. Don't we met you have to do the contraction otherwise we lose the rhythm keeping we're keeping your critique of my poetry reading that's for sure actions? Miami pentameter isn't good enough that there was like. What can we say that's going to fit into this rhythm?

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cbs 11 news pm update 06-27-20

CBS11 News Dallas/Fort Worth

01:24 min | 8 months ago

cbs 11 news pm update 06-27-20

"Good evening. I'm Steve. PICKETT's. It is Saturday, June twenty-seventh, and here your headlines from CBS Love News. It's been a difficult week for covert nineteen infection for North Texas. Dallas County has doubled the number of people in the hospital for the month of June and today. Highest number from bordered infections, five hundred sixty one cases, being reported along with seven deaths, and in Tarrant County, three hundred seventy seven cases, being reported today and six more deaths. A Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission was out across north. Texas today, making sure owners were following the governor's newest order forcing bars to close unless they are offering, take out or delivery. Any barkat in violation could have their liquor license suspended for thirty days, and in an effort to help bars and restaurants drum up more business nick now sell mixed drinks to go. That is the latest announcement from the governor on these matters. Until now the state was only allowing beer, wine and liquor to go now under the new rules, bar or restaurant must sell the Knicks. Cocktail would take out or delivery food. That is the latest from CBS eleven. The ones for Texas.

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Perfect Health: Vata Dosha

Daily Breath with Deepak Chopra

03:22 min | 1 year ago

Perfect Health: Vata Dosha

"Welcome back we previously obviously started to understand the three shows and how they affect our lives. Today we continue to descend though Barkat dough show. ADOC is notably called leading to cold hands and feet and an dislike of cold climates. Moving giving good or bad circulation depending on how well balanced this. Toshiba's hypertension engine is related to excess. Bata as our irregular heart rhythms muscle spasms and backaches in nervous ariss. DARTING glance is a sign of imbalanced. But what is also quick leading to many related characteristics six ability to pick up new information quickly poor long term memory good imagination but bad dreams dreams acting on impulse mood swings and scattered thoughts while is also dry leading to the dry skin. Dry Dull hair. The skin is usually rough. Texture is frequently course impact impact. It's very easy to tell a vodka horror pita or a cover just by shaking. Dan's they will have cool dry hands. Pita will have moist warm hands and a cop will have frequently frequently greasy and called Hands Latta's Echo more fake Betas Amis. More fake cough is and endo more fake war fake means skin and bones mostly. Mazo more fiqh muscles mostly and no more fake fat mostly now. What are the patterns of behavior that truly outra balance. Do you see any of these bygones engineer. Life let's go. You've been under stress and react with anxiety you have exhausted yourself and are who. ooh You are in advanced stages of alcohol or drug addiction. Or you chain smoke. There's been a sudden change in your life. Your died contains a great deal of cold raw food. You've gone without sleep or are you suffering from emotional grief. The first step toward healing is to identify underlying causes of imbalanced. Bought if you have any of the above symptoms. Join me tomorrow as we continue with understanding imbalance of the Pinto.

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Coconut Milk Recall

Best of The Steve Harvey Morning Show

02:51 min | Last month

Coconut Milk Recall

"Over the last twenty years the. Us economy might have gained up to sixteen trillion dollars if the racial wealth gap didn't exist but it does and it needs to end with action for racial equity city is working to provide greater access to banking and credit in communities of color increase investment in black owned businesses and expand homeownership among black americans because closing the racial wealth gap creates a better more prosperous future for everyone learn more about cities action for racial equity at city. Dot com slash. Racial equity the therapy for black girls. Podcast is your space to explore mental health personal development and all of the small decisions we can make to become the best possible versions of our sales. I'm your host dr joy. Hardin bradford a licensed psychologist in atlanta georgia. And i can't wait for you to join the conversation every wednesday to therapy for black girls. Podcast on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcast take care all right guys. Some bad news for fans of child. Coconut milk i hope. I'm saying that right. The product which comes from thailand has been dropped by cosco. It's been dropped by target and wegmans ras wegmans what city Following revelations that the company has been using. Check this out steve. They've been using forced monkey labor to pick coconuts from trees. Okay not paying the monkeys. So what does ahead started an investigation into the alleged animal exploitation. They did this back in two thousand nineteen and apparently hill out. Stop drinking my favorite damn coconut drank cost data and made some monkeys go up in a treat a who asked to go up there. They asked not way up that tree better than anybody else. All this kind of black people in pick ain't nobody t shirts. I wish to hell. I would sit up in here. Quick drinking coconut juice cost a monkey widow. Gay got junk up there to get it if you want to. Who we all even that they are. Anybody said nothing about the is picking up to import nanas and everything happy there. Peter can kiss my behind. How many damn monkey. They sit up there for four hundred years all these sales and stuff. Everybody went hey antibody barkat neck. Give me my damn coconut milk. More of the steve harvey morning coming up thirty three minutes. After right after this you're listening to morning show.

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1st and Goal Playing With Science Checkdown Week 6

No Huddle

02:39 min | 2 years ago

1st and Goal Playing With Science Checkdown Week 6

"It's time for the plane with science check down where sciences sports collide for that. We'll bring in our friends, Chuck nice, Dr era, Goth, and Aloma. First, let's cue up the highlight machine Cam Newton, going to the end zone at our nation's capital finding Devin. Funchess fellas take us through that play. Yeah, absolutely. That's what it was. Looks like Clinton done. Barkat totally. Moss professor tell us how the happened. We'll check. I happened to be talking to you from Huntington West Virginia right now, home of Marshall university. And this is where the real mosque thing of defensive backs began like the newly minute hall of Famer. Randy moss, Devin. Funchess is six foot four inches tall. He lined up against six foot two inch Quinton Dunbar on the far left side of the formation Panthers six, five inch quarterback Cam Newton, took the snap from the shotgun and pedal back to the thirty one yard line before throwing the ball Newton's pass, left his hand at forty six and a half miles per hour just over twenty seven degrees above the horizontal, but as much fun as it is to look at football air dynamics, I wanna focus on the TD catch Newton's pass arrived at the one yard line, getting his glove, hands at forty, two miles per hour. Funchess leaped above. Dunbar allowing his Ford momentum to carry him into the end zone, punches manage to leap over one point, three feet into the air. When he caught the ball, his leap kept him above the turf more than twice as long as dunbar's leap fetches gloved hand stopped the ball using a lot of friction when funchess landed on the turf with his left shoe. He was holding the ball as right hand. Well, out of dunbar's reach the best Dunbar could do as Yankel and fences facemask with his left hand, hang time is a wonderful thing for any of us who leap into the air. We spend nearly seventy one percent of our time above her in the top half of our motion do as funchess did to Dunbar, and you'll have more time to hang at the top of your flight. Funchess used his hang time to moss Devon Dunbar or of funchess sounds like a delicious treat, but it looks like it was dump are who got eating on this play. Chuck you have plenty of street cred was the last time you got most. I gotta tell you something. I believe it was an elementary school game that I played just last week and we'll save that for the podcast. Fellas always a pleasure will chat with you next week. I playing with saints check down all free only on tune in.

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7X11 HULI KAYO!! | B1 GANG ADVENTURE AND MYSTERY SERIES BOOK 7

Stories Philippines Podcast

13:03 min | 6 months ago

7X11 HULI KAYO!! | B1 GANG ADVENTURE AND MYSTERY SERIES BOOK 7

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Israel Daily News Podcast, Wed. Sep 16, 2020

Israel Daily News Podcast

08:28 min | 5 months ago

Israel Daily News Podcast, Wed. Sep 16, 2020

"Good Morning Broker Tove blencoe St Diaz Savannah Clare this is Shawna fold here with the Israeli Daily News podcast the only English, Daily News podcast coming out of Tel Aviv I'm here to give you the headlines. So you can get caught up quickly. Today is Wednesday September sixteenth twenty twenty. Let's get to the news. Well I guess the ceasefire between Israel and Gaza agreed upon weeks ago has been thrown out the window because early this morning, a terror organization launched thirteen missiles into Israel authorities. Say they believe it was a retaliation for the peace deal signed yesterday between the United Arab Emirates, the Kingdom of Buck Rain and Israel. The United States brokered both of these peace agreements which were signed. Yesterday at the White House though neither comas Palestinian Islamic Jihad took responsibility for the rockets. Outright both organizations released statements in support of them. Eight of the rockets fired this morning around four thirty am were intercepted by the Iron Dome, which is Israel's defense system. The other five likely fell into open fields. Two people were injured from debris including a sixty two year old man who. was hurt in his torso and a twenty eight year old man who was injured in his limbs. The older gentleman was reportedly out delivering food to needy families for other Israelis are recovering from severe anxiety attacks after the event defense minister. Bennigan's said on a historic evening of peace. We received a reminder from our enemies that we must always be strong and prepared to protect the. Residents of Israel in every place, and at all times, the Hamas statement on the matter said the agreements between Israel and buck rain and you a E isn't worth the ink spilled or the paper it was signed on the Palestinian people are determined to continue the struggle to get all of their rights and we'll treat these agreements as if they do not exist before the signing. Protested in the streets, burning photos of all four leaders involved in the peace deal. Meanwhile US President Donald. Trump told reporters yesterday following the ceremony in which hundreds attended that he expects Saudi Arabia to normalize relations with Israel in addition to up to nine other Arab nations he said he spoke with the King of Saudi Arabia and that the deal would come at the right time and he even added in that he was far along in peace talks with five other. Countries and thought, they could have even the UAE in buck rain in the peace deal signing and celebration trump said countries in the middle. East are tired of war and that they want peace and wants to sign his deal. He continued to comment that the deal gives Israel support so that the country is no longer isolated and that peace will even come with Palestinians at the right time. Israel's science minister. Isao shy spoke with the Times of Israel identifying some do's and don'ts of the lockdown saying the government is using data to decide on a better version of the lockdown. They said they realize the tight restrictions caused mental health problems and that this time around the government will encourage people to utilize outdoor playgrounds and gyms which were formerly closed so that people have an outlet to exercise their. Bodies and minds for me. The worst part of this article was that shy says swimming in pools and the sea will be completely forbidden but that beaches are open for running on the shore. So long as you live five hundred meters within the beach in school education will be closed until October eleventh and exceptions to the five hundred meter running will allow people to get medication home items, and of course groceries. If you're familiar with prime minister. Netanyahu's Court case you'd know that he has been accused of trying to pay off media channels in Israel for favorable coverage. Well, case four thousand is underway and we have word on who the first witness is. It's Alanya Shula, the former Walla news site CEO while as a popular news organization in Israel that pumps out written and video content every day they have a big studio in the center of Tel Aviv. I'll keep you updated on what comes out of these trials. Earlier in the week, I mentioned that Israel's Banca Pauline was signing a deal with the National Bank of Dubai and now Israel's other top bank bank. Leumi is doing something very similar. They've signed a memorandum of understanding with I Abu Dhabi, bank, as well as the Emirates National Bank of Dubai. The same that Hypo Aleem is working with. This means that Israelis will be able to transfer money between the nations which previously had to be done through European banks in order to facilitate any kind of business relationships in a symbolic move, the banks transferred one hundred eighty dollars to the other. In the Jewish world eighteen represents high or life in English look I am. Finally I had to rip myself away from the conference today to write the show. But if you're in the tech world here in Israel, you'd know that there's a city sponsored twenty four hour boot camp happening. It's completely online and the conference is meant to birth one hundred new startups by the end. The boot camp has workshops and puts people in teams to work on projects via zoom conference. Some big name speakers came to the screen including former Jerusalem. Mayor near Barkat the deputy mayor for Tel Aviv and our own our own the CEO of the Israel innovation. Authority. The speakers were lint and Aaron, and our own asked some tough questions to start this morning's conference. This was the second day speaking to listeners who want to be the CEOS of their own companies. He asked these questions are you ready to be alone? Are you ready to give up your role as CEO if it's better for your startup? Are you ready to get rid of your best friend and business partner even if he struggled through the beginning process with you? Are you ready to sacrifice your favorite hobby wake up in the middle of the night for your business the questions were thought provoking for me as the founder of the Israel Daily News podcast. Last night's breakout sessions however were a complete mess. People got links to zoom conferences that were supposed to have five teams in them, but instead had forty five many people logged off and called the event chaotic. I think it's funny because this is the future. This is just the beginning of having online conferences. Instead of, let's say in-person conferences that last a whole day people take off work to go to them. I thought that this was very interesting to be the Guinea pig of such an idea. So yes, it was very chaotic. Things did not work well, but I still think people are are really taking something away from this event. All right. Well, that's it. For today's news. Today is Wednesday. September. Sixteen, we have a high of thirty one degrees Celsius and a low of twenty six degrees in this central city. That's seventy six degrees Fahrenheit for the low going up to eighty eight degrees. Thanks for getting caught up with me. Don't forget subscribe to the Israel daily, News podcast on spotify or apple podcasts or wherever you're hearing from tomorrow we have a special report as we finish out the week before Russia Shena, and today will hear a song by Eugene corker lap called memories curl up is known around the globe for playing on the streets and enchanting everyone with his voice and his guitar have a great and productive day. If I were.

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THE HALF OF IT MOVIE REVIEW | MOVIE REVIEWS IN TAGALOG

Stories Philippines Podcast

16:58 min | 9 months ago

THE HALF OF IT MOVIE REVIEW | MOVIE REVIEWS IN TAGALOG

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Preview of Castle Rock Season 2: Cast, Story and More!

Stinger TV and Movie Podcast

52:48 min | 1 year ago

Preview of Castle Rock Season 2: Cast, Story and More!

"We went to New York comecon and you should care because we had the chance to do some roundtable interviews for some of your favorite shows one of them being castle rock we went behind the scenes to meet and speak with the cast members of season two castlerock and were talking about it today worked TV lately I think it's been a while since something maybe since the good place and manifest maybe those are the only two things but it's been a while since something really good has it would rather that we dig in to a specific show specifically something awesome like castle rock since it's coming out next week and you guys we are so for our youtube channel and you'll hear a little bit about the celebrities we met the cost play we saw the show panels we went to but we stop but as we often say there's really too much TV to be watching something that you don't love so that's a network show it is it is yeah the movie podcast we're talking about TV and we're talking about movies and you know what Shannon I was just looking at our twitter the other day and anger starts now now I everyone I'm Shannon and I'm Faye drew welcome to Stinger d we were going to do an entire podcast episode just devoted to New York comic con but we ended up doing facebook live about it so you can check that out on facebook come out but I do like to try couple things I've been watching I tried prodigal son and this is a show with Tom Paine and Michael Sheehan you know to great actors and they're phenomenal in their roles but the first episode just didn't it didn't capture me and I may give it another you're on it more than I am and I saw someone pay us a huge compliment they said how do you keep up with so many TV shows and I was like Oh thank you broadcasting that's right if you guys could have seen my ghetto setup I don't know if you would have felt that way but hey I think it sounds pretty good it does it does yeah all right a lot because it is that time of year that wonderful time of year when all the new shows come out so I like to give everything a chance even though I'm not you know I haven't been a huge fan of Oh we're going to get to that and we are so excited because we actually had a chance to preview a few episodes before it comes out but before we do that shows just don't grab us the way streaming shows too I don't know I'm it may be a money thing that's a good point they gave yeah I think it's on Fox I don't know I didn't make a note of what everything's on but we talk about this or maybe I talked to my sister about this about why networks that we are going to actually you know talk about what we have been watching because we do make it our job so what you've been watching TV movies Shannon tell me I've been watching it you know you gotTa make what you love work for you that's right yeah so that's that's what we did we did go to New York comic con we oh my gosh needed because we got to interview some of the key members of the cast and we've got interviews that we're going to bring you this like next legit now but there are still some good network shows and one I'm going to talk about right now is called evil and the stars Mike Colter and actually went to the panel thank you are job we we I always tell people we watch the show like like it's our job has it is it's a self-appointed job on someone anyone to share your binge-watching watching it Shannon and feder are here for you your wait is over st reads tech kind of guy now the three of them are investigating what what they call church mysteries okay this could be a demonic possessions had a great time and I'm already like super excited to go back next year yeah me too me too yeah we thought you guys maybe didn't WanNa hear just a recap of everything but it could be miracles unsolved mysteries that supposedly have to do in some way with religion okay but at comic con for this and listen to the cast and the producers talk and I'll just give you guys a quick rundown of what this show is about okay because it's very very after a very long time and they're like okay is this a miracle they think they see like a ghost on the on the security footage okay maybe there's some type of higher power involved here somehow hence the priest here's why this happened and they figure it all out scientifically however the one thing I do love about the show is that it's just not that simple they made deals with religion and they do this pretty well pretty effectively okay you know just pulling in the scientific part this shows a little bit like I keep thinking it's like Scooby Doo because each episode they have a problem okay the last one was a girl came back to life is needing there is a Mike Colter who was cage in the Marvel Netflix series he plays a priest in training although as the show goes on we're not quite sure about contain very effectively this thread and I've only seen two episodes in its impressed me so far but they've maintained this thread of okay they're watching security footage from the hospital I think they see like a ghost go by and all this stuff and then in the very end it's like they pull the mask off the monster and like Oh here's you his dedication to the priesthood I'm not sure then there is a psychologist and there's kind of a contractor Jack of all involvement here yeah yeah so it is pretty cool and one of the things they send the panel is that it's not very often that you can get a hit TV show that actually then leaving you with that little like okay but maybe you know I just don't like the name of it like evil I don't like Evil Ghost e spiritual stars Anna Camp from Pitch Perfect and Bradley Whitford from the West Wing remember him yeah he's been in a lot but this is like but that's one of the new fall TV shows that I definitely recommend that people watch yeah I tried out a show called perfect harmony which the acting is next level stars Ben Platt Gwyneth Paltrow Jessica Lang Dylan McDermott there Zoe dot the source material just isn't new yeah so it's it's a Sitcom it's your basic Sitcom Perry predictable ooh I'm from the south and we're trying to win this church choir competition and he's like the grump that comes in and helps them because of sister act or something stupid like that yeah it's not it's not great but okay prodigal son you've got these great actors but final season so I'm definitely keeping up with that and it's been very good so far that's all on network TV that I've tried out so then Sitcom about this guy whose wife dies and he's like this grumpy old man and then he happens into this town where there's these acquire a church choir and they're all I have watched the politician on that flex and I know you tried this out this is my new favorite show I really love this show so much involving social classes and high school politics and I've only watched two episodes and I was like really he was apparently a professor of music pro something I think I saw like poster something and it looks like like a like a Sitcom version Harvard and it's really just this weird it kind of reminds me of like the royal tenenbaums it's just a weird family dynamic and loves this okay yeah I don't know I loved it from the very first episode yeah it is there's Family Calang is amazing also so the acting is is one of my main reasons why I love this but the other thing I love is all the layers of description I saw of the show was that it was Black Mirror for horror looking at it from that perspective we watched maybe which I mean okay let's get a little little quick Synopsis Okay I can't even give a synopsis because you know I thought it was about a kid trying to get in unlike crawling into this woman's bad it was it was scary okay so you don't need that okay so it may not be but that was only the first episode the next one dealt with like a miracle so I don't know drama there's teen drama there is social class all the things you said play into it and what I think is so great about this show first of all Ben Platt he's amazing the story and the plot twists that happen are really really fantastic and the show goes to a place where you don't think it's going to go crossed when she was browsing through net flicks this is about all right they're literally little vignettes little teeny horror stories you and that's all I have to say about that okay so that is all except for the good place we don't need to go into that because we've talked about the good place forever and how much we love it but that is back in the maybe I'll I'll watch it but it's not for anybody else in my family I can tell you that right now it's different it's unique and I think you should stick with it till the end okay they give you a sentence in the beginning and they got fifteen to twenty minutes show and then a sentence at the end and I did a little googling and one and then it comes back in the last episode to a place that you never would have imagined okay I mean I'm not like I hated watching it I was just like this is a weird show collect poltergeist like that and it's definitely got like the first episode I was covering my head with a blanket there was my God it was it was terrifying there was this Friday you're going to be hearing this podcast on Tuesday so maybe you've already seen it but yeah and the other thing I do want to mention quick my daughter put on this interesting show I guess it was a CW means this maybe there's a little bit of social commentary going on in them but it's not fantastic okay yeah yeah and then my husband and I are watching better call Saul because we finish breaking bad and I just want to mention I haven't seen it yet but I'm hopefully going to watch it today the outcome pretty cool I mean she wasn't the best thing she ever saw either she's pretty critical but you know I haven't heard anything about it so I thought it would throw it out there in case anybody listening finds me just while we're talking about it Shannon and I have done I think at least two separate podcasts on horror movies so Shannon wanted sure in our show notes that you link to those yes so it's that time of year so if if you're wrong with an I did and I think we did another one about our favorite scary movies did definitely and I think that is about all I've been watching that's a lot how about you what is people the maybe singers may not be singers they come on stage and they perform but you know it's shrouded in secrecy and they were these ridichio there's a stupid stupid show wow that I watched that I'll probably watch again called the masked singer Oh three episodes and I would say maybe one of them had a little bit of a black mirrors feel where at the end you're like ooh that's cool maybe that And then Oh my God I have to take a moment speaking of network shows speaking of ridiculous network entertainment on your TV I've been I've been watching too but I'm going to breeze through mine because some of it Kinda duplicates of yours and I WANNA make sure we get castlerock so I've been okay like the idea is good but all the other stuff is just average but you know if you are especially like teenagers who are into horror like my daughter loved it she thought it was you know movie which is Jesse Ping Stores is out now today on Netflix. Yup Yup we're recording this on Friday so by the time you know it's out today no but she watched it on Netflix it's called to sentence horror stories have you heard of this at all nope yeah this wasn't on my radar at all but I think she just kind of happened Oh do you know this show okay I've been seeing the commercials for it and I'm like what the fuck is exactly it was one of those like what like the best they unmask themselves so why a celebrity woody humiliate themselves in this way I don't know so the two maybe some washed-up singers that are looking for whatever so for the pure like let's watch something in make fun of it yeah that's when you could do okay all right then fearless costumes you see their face and then you have these quote celebrity Judges Jenny McCarthy I don't know what to call you other than a train the second season of this show yes and heard of this and we only had to watch probably about thirty five to forty minutes of it because we just like fast forward like I don't care about this I don't care okay all right stop let's hear them saying okay so anyway and then at the end of the show one person gets eliminated and we get keeping up with a good place which is great I just started the flash which is great I also tried the politician which is okay flamboyant figure skater and the other one was some like twitch Gamer youtuber something wreck it just the whole show is all right it's ridiculous and sometimes we like to watch ridiculous shows just to make fun of it sure the fuck is this show turn it on and we're watching it going what the fuck if this show it is so it's like celebrities or famous her which is what this was a my son and I watched this and the great thing about this show is we it was an hour and a half because I think it was the season Premiere Aww Fan I'm just not that into them and isn't it romantic is the story of rebel Wilson who is really not that interim Oh yeah I wanted to see that or to watch and it's not it's not it's not bloodier like terrible horror it's more like think about it horror like thought provoking horror that sort of like a cable guy Meets that weird one that I talked about with Will Ferrell and it's just a weird sort of I watched a movie called dinner with Schmucks I haven't heard of this it was Paul Rudd and Steve Carell so I was like that's going to be good it's like a comedy it's let me just breeze through four different movies that I watched one was called isn't it romantic we've talked about Rom coms before and how do I feel about Rom coms Shannon you're artsy comedy that most people be like well that was dumb because if you don't get it you don't get it I thought it was okay had a good cast c o no two people get eliminated limited I thought the idea was you had to guess what celebrity was well it's kind of like a using and then this person sings if you are enjoying our conversation every two weeks we come to you and we give you what we're watching a topic of the week we talk about everything exactly my son knew who it was but I mean some of these people I think I think it's GonNa end up being like some athletes maybe some actors who don't normally sing nice cheap date entertainment and that's typically what Rahm comes are that's the definition of Aramco yes it's like easy to swallow I also watch mean girls because and it was worth every bit of the sixty dollars I spent to get a Selfie with him so it was great so Sean Astin the goonies I watched it with my son He loves so that's not A it's not a strong endorsement that just like here it is if you want to watch it I mean you know it's all it's Halloween maybe somebody wants to you know looking for some unique horror movie I loved watching the movie okay well now it is that time of the podcast where we would like you to go ahead and hit that subscriber and then the goodies which I had to watch because in New York you guys I actually paid for celebrity experience to meet Sean Astin guys it's an inner national group it s just a you know we have people in where was the guy from Chile somewhere in they're like this person's a little bit better so you you have to go to the sing off round and then at the end they end up with the two worst singers they're they're not awful but they just aren't fall in love with me like she's trying to get back to reality and so it was like my husband actually watch it with me we're like okay this was a nice movie nothing nothing fantastic but like a nice hear all about season two which is coming out on Hulu October twenty third so not only did we get a chance to interview `and and somehow she hits her head and wakes up and she she's in a rom com and she's like okay what do I need to do to get okay I have to get this really good-looking guide the and movies and if you don't WanNa wait every two weeks we have a fantastic group on Facebook TV and movie discussion with Stinger if you search that on facebook you're gonNA find our group the cast of season to the major players along with the executive producer co creator and show runner but we also got a little sneak our articles and recaps and previews and reviews so please join us there because now we're taking a turn why castlerock why now well you may be like castlerock I watched that last year yes you did and so did we do people their level of celebrities getting on this show well I can only talk about the celebrities that have been revealed and I one was Johnny we're the I'd love for you to join us on facebook great place for discussion but really go to singer universe dot com that's our website where it has links to all of our podcasts as well as all I don't think so but there were there were there were a couple of stars in it and it just wasn't what I wanted it to be but it was it was fine it was forgettable we had a couple of podcasts that we loved about it but as I mentioned at the beginning of the podcast Shannon I went up to New York went to New York Khan and we got to and to a darker part of the podcast we're going to be talking about castlerock America we have from Africa their netflix watchers. Just like you and me so I think it's awesome we love hearing perspectives from all over ruling that we're getting from this season Oh are we having feelings I'm having feelings I don't know about you but I'm having a lot of feelings because I I think it's going to be a total of ten episodes is that right correct yes so three episodes the first week and then over the course of the next seven weeks you'll finish it so I kinda wanted to be current so I have only watched the first three episodes and I may stop there here's the thing when it drops on October twenty third they are dropping the first I feel like I hadn't seen that in a long time which is great timing because Lizzy Caplan who is in the rock season to play Janice in mean girls so we'll come back to that he can some of the first few episodes so if you're listening to this now there's a good chance that you haven't seen castlerock yet because we know it doesn't are- episodes this season as well they're dropping the first three episodes and then it's going to be a weekly show we'll talk about why they're doing it that way but your overall impressions of the tone the vibe of season two as it compares to season one for you so this season I think the to you about is the actors the characters the basic story that's going to be happening in season to a castle rock and the incredible field story is a little more of a story okay it is based around a I don't know maybe not a tighter iffy Yup and you're gonNA join and you're going to talk about everything that you're watching and you're gonNA find somebody that's watching it and you're going to have support and it's going to be awesome I get that feeling totally when you're thinking about it after the credits have rolled and you're like Yeah I agree you literally can't wait to get back to these people's world I'm out till the twenty third so this is going to be a spoiler free discussion we're going to talk to you if you haven't seen it because chances are you haven't Galifianakis was in it and these are all the same people that I know Jona Helen it because they're all the same I don't I know I get them mixed up with what everyone else is going to be able to binge when it first comes out so verse three episodes let's just talk before we dive into the story the characters all that just give me worry because I don't think it's going to be straightforward but I think it's sort of this linear progression so far this a little bit easier to follow so if you felt like you were on you're like what the Hell is going on and you didn't really understand anything you were seeing and it was like it you know what am I seeing what does this mean great thing is that if you haven't seen season one totally okay right Chen absolutely yeah it's an anthology series and every that Unites Kings themes and worlds and brings together the authors most iconic and beloved characters now in season two six and castlerock the series is an original suspense thriller on Hulu First of its kind reimagining seen it but the reason we want to do it is because we're huge fans there were so excited yes we're going to get into this and again spoiler free but what we want to talk it's going to be a little bit different yes but the basic idea behind castle rock is it's it's a psychological horror series set in the Stephen King multi-diverse okay title to me it feels like a tighter group of characters and the first season I felt like there was a lot going on and it was very ambiguous like you could have speaking of iconic characters we are getting a little back story of Miss Annie Wilkes our favorite angle breaker from the novel in a world where your friends and Co workers don't understand your movie or TV obsession obsession where you just cast that will be super awesome a girl can dream can't promise but we did try okay so if you are new to castle rock welcome to our world the movie misery yeah so we had a chance to talk to Dustin Thomason who we mentioned is is the show runner co-creator and so on And I it was like a puzzle that you had to piece together this season feels very much like a I don't WanNa say straightforward horror story okay yes Weaving an epic saga of darkness and Light Played Out on a few square miles of main woodland k the fictional main town of castle rock has figured and he's as you might imagine a huge Stephen King Fan and he said part of the way they kind of came up with with this series this this season I and very explained especially if you know a little bit about Stephen King Right I would say the same thing it's got a very different vibe this season so season that now that I've seen a couple of episodes now I want to go back and Redo the interviews I wish I like I have different feelings about the actors now now that I've seen who they are read a lot into everything that was happening this season I feel that it's a little more straightforward it's a little tighter everything is very connected we're doing everything I was actually thinking maybe I I don't know if this'll be a possibility but maybe we could get in touch with our contact who and see if we could get any of those people on her innately in King's literary career we've seen it in Cujo the dark half needful things it's been referenced in mentioned many many of his word I find myself and this is the marker of good show I find myself thinking about this in my day to day activities and I go down what's going to happen what do I get Surat combines the mythological scale and intimate character storytelling of kings best loved works and you can tell him reading I'm reading this solely AH confused at times in season one which I was which I think was sort of the point I think this is just a little bit more linear but I will say unlike sort of thing so I will say that if you're into Stephen King or you want to kind of refresh yourself with Stephen King movies or books before it is they said you know Annie Wilkes such a great character in and I never read the book but the movie misery is one of my favorite Stephen King movies and they said you know how did what brought her to be that Annie Wilkes we don't know much about her early life and so they kinda wanted to bring a what what could her life have season two they you don't have to know Stephen King to be able to really appreciate the series but they do throw a lot of Easter eggs in there so yes so if you if you are looking for some and this is not a spoiler because these are kind of the obvious ones Salem slot is going to be definitely referenced I never saw that thanks bye bye Awkward Team Oh my God she does I love her so much when I saw her in eighth grade I was like this is the most real relatable portrayal joy wilkes played by Elsie Fisher now elsie starred in eighth grade which you and I both what Shannon and she's excellent if you see Kathy Bates in misery and then you watch lizzy Caplan as her younger character you are going to be just blown away nails it nails it yes yes so so lizzy Caplan plays Annie Wilkes the character from misery and she has a daughter and she's kind of moving from town to town is notably true blood and cloverfield okay so and of course Annie Wilkes we know her from the misery story she was the nurse by the way I read a quick summary each fan my daughter is a big fan because she loves me and girls but I mean now now that I've seen her in this episode IV in this series I am a good way right so that's the Annie Wilkes we know from the movie misery but in this universe and he has a daughter named he's working as a nurse and I won't go into too many details again because we want to keep this spoiler free but they end up in the in fact I think this role is sort of similar to what she had an eighth grade and she but she just absolutely nails what it's like to be an Iraq so I think both towns are involved in this I wasn't entirely clear on that but let's just talk real quick about Annie Wilkes the other characters in the Ori who she meets when she ends up in this town for what we don't know is going to be a short stint or a long stint in town so I'll start with the town name is Jerusalem's lot right I think that's where the hospital is which they they kind of nicknamed Salem Slot and I think I think they're living in casts on Wikipedia if it's been awhile since you've seen a great summary about she's the one that Finds Paul I can't remember his last name but he was he was an author not awkward in the way of eighth grade but you know definitely unsure of herself and you know you're killing it yet and that that is a new character or to yes this Stephen to the universe right right well then we have tim robbins everybody knows the amazing Tim Robbins he plays a character called pop merrill we Z.. Kaplan who plays Annie Wilkes and well why don't you talk about because I think you're a big fan of her Shannon yeah well I don't know if I would say that I am are that ends up in a car crash and she takes him back to her cabin to nurse him back to health and then we find out that she's really superfan and not in of teenager coldly I've ever seen and she is doing a fantastic job so far what I've seen in castle rock she plays don't think I read that book but I'm planning to watch misery again before October twenty third when the dancing comes out so all my daughter to see it yet because you guys yes so you know we actually asked a question about this like did did they intentionally try to pull in these actors and the showrunner told us that it was just a happy definitely a huge fan of hers She her first role was in freaks and Geeks and she played Janice in mean girls talked about she's been in a ton of other series probably the character is actually based on Someone in the Stephen King Universe named Reginald Marian Pop Merrill who is a resident of Castle ooh not so much awkward you know she hasn't really had a lot of friends because her mom's been moving around the shelter team yeah so you know not accident that this turn out that way so we love it I'm not totally buying that by the way that accident okay in Stephen King's stories I think maybe needful things but or maybe it was Salem slot but from what I saw the he does make will that Tim Robbins was in Shawshank redemption one of my all time favorite movies I just had that in there yes and last season we had sissy space it from Kerry Rock Maine and the owner of emporium Gloria that is actually still true to the character in this show but he he's been a bit character in a bunch of d parents in a lot of Stephen King novels and he also in one of the novels plays the uncle of a meryl which leads us to our next character zero is the main antagonist of the novella the body and from different seasons and consequently the novellas film version stand by me so asked Paul sparks plays ace Merrill you might know him from house of cards or boardwalk empire he's been in a lot of other TV shows also AC also he was a secondary antagonist in needful things Ace lived most of his life in Castle Rock Maine so we're just giving you this is the actor was ace Merrill so even if you don't know that story you can know that ace Merrill was kind of an asshole in some other Stephen King's the the the asshole teenagers and the the king of the assholes was Kiefer Sutherland in that movie I don't remember this at all but that after you allen who plays Chris Merrill that's Ace's brother he was seth in thirteen reasons why and he is a brand new character here yeah and background you guys of the Stephen King Universe this isn't necessarily what's wrong it's not at all what's happening. In Castle Rock Season Two one of the other media members that was their referred to him as the hot guy yeah I was like okay I'm probably older so I don't you know but the hot Guy Plays Dr Nadia Omar She's actually British but it's clear that she is her ethnicity is is Somali and her brother is played by Barkat word to see the actors especially when the actors are like so different from the characters that they play he I think he's the perfect example all right guys we're about to inundate you with actual real audio clips of Shannon and I actually really talking to the stars way I feel like the personality she has in the show as a doctor totally matched her personality as an actress Yes would you agree I would agree yeah you put that out there so to actors that play Somali siblings and will go into you know how that factors into the story we have you Yusra or Sama no Barkat from Captain Phillips he's like it is my ship now right let me remember that I didn't see that movie but let me tell you each season and then eventually circle back to to some of those threads and do it in unexpected ways that people maybe don't see coming but stand by me which was based on the body it was it was four Kids River Phoenix Wil Wheaton couple of them I can't remember for the kids and then there were like that we're going to talk about the theme overall with some of our interview clips are what's the plan for Castle rock as a series so we had season one and Obvi- who plays audio Mar I thought that was kind of weird that his last name is his his first name when I was reading up our notes I was I just kept messing that up you probably Astra who plays Dr Dr Well the caller DR H so I do yeah Dr Yeah I don't know where that comes from but he was such a quiet soft spoken guy and then when I watched him in Castle Rock I was like Oh this dude don't play right what it's so we sure and they also said he was a nice guy the end he was he plays a nicer character than ace so then we have the Somali family will just it's like you said this is spoiler free so we're just giving you a little background of the characters which are new and Wicha relating to the Stephen King Universe yeah but if you remember if you into and I think that they talked about early on that this was going to be an anthology series which of course made the ending season one extremely disappointing to me a season to castle rock can you tell that we're like certain excited that we got to sit at the table and talk to the celebrity so I think the first thing that I know a lot of them are set in Maine but I never realized that Stephen King himself kind of weaves them in and out of his novels so I love that they're sort of taking the same approach that Stephen King's and this is what some of them had to say about that I mean the only reason that I'm here and Sam Ni- When we created the show in season one it has to do with us as humans like the things that we do that put us in kind of horrific situations like the fact that we forget that bad things the surface based on how many actually written but I never realized that there were so many characters and locations connected audience to a new set of characters and a new story so you don't have to have seen season one but the people who are watching all along are going to be rewarded as they if there was a grand plan you know there's there's a grand plan in one sense which is that the idea was always that we were going to introduce the reds in Z.. Creatively for us to be able to return to some of these characters is is amazing he has such an interesting take what is horror like what is it and it's story so you can put that in your pocket as you begin to watch these into well then we have my biggest question for most of the cast members was what was it like stepping into the second season of an already popular show affected ways whereas the name Jacob Rowling sort of had this enormous every character and every move that they're going to make and I think that in an anthology format part of what's Bon about that about telling Stephen King story that way is that you get to start over serve each season and you get to introduce characters and introduced fans to and I mean the only reason we wanted to do it in the first place came from being fan I mean that was like the the the origin of it because there'd be no point in doing this show us with his novels and doing the same thing with TV show yeah and of course they are definitely how could they not be but they're definitely Stephen King Fan eh it was a little frustrating yeah a little frustrating but I liked it so we asked Dustin Thomason who's the CO creator of Castle Rock was stabbed Shaw think takes a an approach which is like the characters sort of emerged and start to speak to him and then find their ways into new stories in kind of doing it as a as a job it's like it I don't think it would have the the resonance I I hope that it has for for the fans and and I think and and so in that sense there is there has always been a grand plan but I think that if you think about the way that people sort of Oh you know you've you've already kind of built up the buzz and people are excited about it you're changing all the characters and changing the story so there's nothing familiar for the fans to come back a bit and the cool thing is that is pretty much how Stephen King has built his novels now I've read a lot of Stephen King novels like probably doesn't even have happened in the past you know it's so part of who we are you know that we've forget like how we are like no we're in this situation again with this clown Leeann universities I would say there's sort of two sides to that to two ends of this Becker one is the JK rowling under the spectrum in one is the Stephen King end of the spectrum in that like Stephen by the way I did not realize but Kathy Bates won a best actress Oscar for that role so those are those are pretty big shoes a big shoes to fill in so we anne in season two struggling with mental illness while trying to raise her daughter and they have kind of just we've already mentioned that Kaplan is amazing she has the mannerisms the speech patterns the hair everything is just on point story for season two we've given you a little bit of background but season two follows any walks of course and a younger version of Kathy Bates I kind of character have your walking you know what you're walking into you know what people think about the show and you do your little bit and then you're out before people get sick of it and then I asked Yusra emblematic of who we are as a culture and so I like it that he's he's political so it's not just the horror element in his books I feel like the characters wjr gone from one place to another all right we're not going to get into the story here but definitely not a normal childhood for joy by any means and they end up this you know for to and I think Lizzie

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NBA Boycott Part II

First Take

42:23 min | 6 months ago

NBA Boycott Part II

"It's so difficult in the point of view can be different from person to person, but the first goal is stop chilling. And Tony I told you all spring. I am not singing coon by I don't believe that the country has made a term I don't because people are still getting shot when people were shot anymore l. let's hold hands and sing coon by but I told you all spring. I'm cynical about this. This is why. Wisconsin is why? Athletes are fed up rightfully. So the NBA put black lives matter on the court messages on the backs of the shoulders of the players and yet still Jacob Lake was shot seven times in the back by police in Kenosha Wisconsin, and because of that four days later, the books boycotted their game five playoff matchup against the Orlando Magic on Wednesday the NBA later announced the. Remaining Games yesterday would be postponed and rescheduled at a later date last night NBA players and coaches held urgent and emotional meetings that will continue into this morning. The NBA Board of Governors and NBA players will meet again separately at eleven am eastern this morning as both sides continue to discuss what comes next and the plan league sources told our Adrian Whoa Drewnowski and Melita Andrus. Welcome back to I take I'm Roz Gould on what where he would stephen a Smith Max Kellerman and former NBA player in ESPN analyst Kendrick Perkins? Per- as you saw the unforgettable events of yesterday's sportsworld snowballing and it started with the bucks boycott, what was going through your mind? Well hit is right and I said this before the pandemic of before they went back to the bubbling resumed playing basketball and the season's restarted of they had half of the NBA guys some of the guys that didn't WanNa play they said it will cause a distraction and look how you WanNa fight the fight I'm witty but I'm stand by this you have to have a plan in place. This is not individually will speaking on behalf of the whole MBA Brotherhood and when you go out and do something you have. To have a plan, everyone has to be unified and I said this even would read came out and made his statement and said that I don't think we should play. Okay. Cool. Tell us what's the plan afterwards by the way Kyrie hell of a job but what you've been doing in the community but what I'm saying here's what I said this when those guys got down to the bubble, it was going to be powerful and that's what it's been is ben powerful because together you get all of these athletes all of. ICONIC figures and one area would have able to think and think things through talk it out and able to come together and able to use the NBA platform to get their message out were millions of people are saying it to the point where so powerful that in the first couple of weeks, the president of the United States received the message and commented about what's going on in the bubble it was so powerful down rivers gave a speech. Speech in a way viral incest everyone in America and might think is what happened yesterday I get it. Right. WE WON'T CHANGE AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN I won't change and with the Milwaukee bugs was that they made a stance and I don't disagree with that. But here's the problem that I have when you don't communicate others. Other teams. Then all of a sudden it comes to what happened last night in the meeting where everyone is now confused because they say, okay, we're GONNA stand behind you and rightfully. So but when we get the meeting okay, we stood behind you we boycotted the Games now was the plan. and. It wasn't one at the time and it's still not one. That's why they having the meeting today and that's the problem that I have is that you have to have a plan we are fighting the same fight we all will justice but I'm telling you the bubble has been powerful messages has been set and look the people who got the evil, the Devlin them the evil souls they don't WanNa see you. They won't go away. Don't give them what they want stay out there continue to grow and build a be unified continue to keep Boston these messages it keep doing what you do together. They want you to go away they won't the NBA. To Stop so they don't have to turn on the TV and here justice will be on the Taylor justice for every African American that was killed two police brutality. They don't want to see that. So you you're making a day if you do go away but my whole thing is what it is the plan before you do something you have to come together you have to get with Chris Paul and the Players Association and all your brothers and say, okay fellows what are we gonNA do okay. We to do this. What's the next step? That's how you work things out together you have to be unified and you have to be have to have a player. Max? I thought originally that the players would have a louder voice were they to play in the bubble guys. Because everyday microphones and cameras are in front of their face, and if they want to say something, the world is paying attention. But whether or not the bucks understood this intuitively or whether they considered it or whether it was just from their gut, it didn't feel right to play a game. To entertain people when right there in their home state not far from where they were playing. Were not far from where they normally play rather. You know the that event occurred the shooting of the shooting of Jacob Lake. So So. When they made that decision guys, it is undeniable that the world is now paying much more attention than it was. And as I say I would love to see NBA champion Crown but I always have to check myself because I'm a basketball fan But I do think that this. Major League Baseball team started following suit if if NFL teams follow suit and it hits the heartland that way if people look around and say, wait a minute conditions are such that I don't have my football than a lot of the people who are saying it's okay. I could do without the NBA maybe singing a different tune at the reason I that up is because what the? Bucks showed while people are kind of it's not that there's not leadership, but you can. You can get paralysis by analysis you know and what the buck show was. No, we can't do this, and in that way they showed leadership I don't know where they're gonna go from here but the young people have led the way so far and I, suspect they will continue to do so. We understand that even though negotiations and friendly negotiations as opposed to ten ten or abrasive negotiations you know sometimes it works. The bottom line is the language that everybody understands his force. Well, let's take into account the force that was exhibited last night. The Milwaukee Bucks make a decision the Orlando Magic follow the other four teams that was scheduled to play last night included Houston and Oklahoma City they followed as well along with the Lakers and the Portland Trailblazers Follow suit tonight. I sincerely doubt there will be no games. I think that announcement will become within the next couple of hours. What happens Ten. Seattle players who happen to be black took their position Major League Baseball Games canceled tennis twitter was canceled because a tennis player elected to take the position that she took Wnba. Please did the same thing nobody was talking about necessarily doing that but nevertheless, it reverberated in such a fashion and had such a contagious effect that the entire world is transfixed on the sports world right now because of the positions that we have been taken that we've seen taken I was on this morning I've gotten a call from Fox News CNN everybody calls. Okay. Why because this story? As transfixed everybody, it has everybody focused on it, and so now that you have this situation before your hands, you have to know what to do to utilize that moment to Max potential. That's like anything else in life you understand the. The society that we're living in how black folks have been demonized we've been marginalized. We've been minimized. We've been scrutinized ad nauseam. Almost never treated fairly no matter what we get. We had to work twice or three times as hard to get it only to get half as much when we're fortunate enough to get. Most of what we were after and most of what we deserve they make sure to give some more to a white person because God forbid that a black person is number one on the heap this. These kind of things that we've been dealing with for centuries, and so we know that as Maria Taylor articulated do we have confidence that it's really really going to change in a profound pep of fashion particularly for the Immediate Future Hail? No we come out of the womb expect in the battle and we're usually ready with it. Armed with the intestinal fortitude to withstand what most human beings particularly from other races might not be able to withstand. We get all of that. We understand it. But in the end, what it comes down to is that you still have to have a plan of action once that issue impulsive act was exercise we applaud it we commend them for we stand with them whatever decision they make their my brothers I'm GonNa roll with them, whatever they want to do. A role widow, but it's important. That you make sure they understand what's going to be asked of them and are say in some circles required of them in order to capture the progress that they are looking to capture. There is no way around that and there's no reason to sugarcoat it. Perk. Comment on a the. The box had a powerful for Mrs. Right, they took a stand and to me the whole NBA that was a stance to the owners right to the owners to use their relationships and it's about time call those governors, call those senators, call those mayors debt. You guys know even people in Congress make those necessary calls to show that you stand in with those guys that. You drafted and you said that you care about so much on when you sign them you said, you care about these guys so much and you're willing to do whatever when they're filling up the seats and they're selling popcorn and everything got the concession stands stand by them. That was a message to the owners KP right now take action kate because we're look we've been. We've been protesting for hundreds of years now right and we're going to continue to protest, but we're still getting killed. Now it's time for us to use our power as the NBA brothers to put ownership on our owners to use their white, our use their relationship for tain. Max KP. I was in New York. City yesterday and I'll give you the last word on this maximum interjecting because I want you to have the last word and this I want to tell you. It happened just today. So we've got Lebron James has more than vote movement which KP you're part of obviously, and we all know, I, mean it it doesn't take on Stein the see the direction that that Lebron on is leading in in terms of getting out the vote in who he would like people to vote for. That's an as a secret to no one, right so I'm walking in the street yesterday Max and I'm walking by a couple of people. Thank God they will wearing that mask I was wearing mine and they were literally talking about. The NBA players. I was coming back from Philadelphia and I went to New York and they were literally talking about in the wee hours of the night. He's walking the street. These guys they think. They think that they hurt by not playing. That shoot I was GonNa Watch the Games instead I watched the Republican National Convention. That's what they say. And then you have people that are looking at the convention tonight. When trump is expected to speak and you've got folks hoping there are no games tonight either so they can watch him on these kind of things folks on a different side of the fence Lebron James are saying I wanted to just throw that out to the both of Y'all Max obviously, I wanted to hear your response to that because it made me laugh to be quite honest with you. But what was your thoughts about that? Well, my thoughts are that you should vote. Make. Sure to vote because the entrenched party right now doesn't want you to vote. That's why they removed mail sorting machines just a board of governors the postal service approved joy who is a major trump donor to? To. Oversee essentially the removal of of vote of sorting machines to make it harder for you to vote in most people's estimation. Vote it's very important and this this issue of police brutality is a complicated one because it's local it's all over the place you're going to pass a federal law but. What do you want to reform police unions because that's very important to do. So. I see as a broader issue just when like when capper nick kneeled and specifically it was about police brutality but I saw it as a larger issue of basically just social justice there are systemic. Injustice. Toward Black people and you can look for it in issues like law enforcement where in Idaho a couple of days ago in Boise. In into a a state building with a legislator legislature was meeting. Armed, many of them armed white. Mask. List they weren't wearing masks forcing shows distancing. Men some of them belonging to right wing militias. Pushed tasks police. And filled the. Pews or whatever you want to call the seats which were supposed to be spaced out for social distancing because we're in a pandemic and it's actually hitting they're very hard and they were not stopped and they were not confronted or arrested, and afterwards what the officials said was what we didn't want to escalate violence. Now contrast that with peaceful protests outside the white. House, when trump had a photo op across the street and a secret police force which may have been illegally had no identification on them. Started, dispersing the crowd by force. Imagine now it reversed that there was armed black men. Mask lists pushing past police into a state legislative meeting. And breaking rules once they got there, what would happen to them? Do you think the response of law enforcement would be well, we just wanted to be escalate. There's not a chance and everybody knows it. So I look at it really as a larger issue and the larger issue is black life has always been cheap in this country and it's time it starts getting more expensive. Stephen A. Guys we have to. Go ahead, Burke real quick I'll say one thing just one thing. One thing to my NBA brothers are no you're having a meeting is probably going on right now going to be unified the power y'all have the power right now trust me. They won't tell to walk away from the bubble they don't WanNA see y'all do not give in continue to continue to be heard continue to be on these net words. That's all I want to say. Thank you perk and actually that's really good segue into the breaking news that we have right now from Whoa jr several key members of the Lakers now remember last night they had those emotional player meetings it. It ended without a lot of answers, well, several key members of the Lakers and some peers around the league stayed up until the early hours of the morning on Thursday talking through issues in the bubble sources tell ESPN's Adrian Ski and according to Wo- Jr among key players in league heading into Thursday's eleven am. which is happening right now, there was optimism about a majority of players wanting to continue the playoffs. Is Got Together Yourself Roy gathered. In. Yourself I'm so proud got a brother got a daisy always. Young men and women. They did things that. I didn't think about doing when. We thought we had a handle on it. Obviously, we didn't. But when I saw, doc rivers and. Lebron and Torch which I think about my three boys. And I got a twenty two year old in the twenty year old. Can I'm trying to prevent from being hunted? Bra of the guys in the women are doing. Is We would say. Unify people always defeat unified money. Four days after twenty, nine year old Jacob Lake shot seven times in the back by Kenosha Wisconsin police officer in front of his three young children the Milwaukee Bucks boycotted their game five playoff matchup against the Orlando Magic on Wednesday. Now, much of the sports world followed the Bucks League and postponed their events including NFL teams cancelling practice today Iras with Stephen and Max Stephen a what does this mean for the NFL season which is slated to start September tenth I I don't think it's going to affect the NFL season be quite honestly because I don't think that the players in the national. Football League. are in the financial positions that the NBA players are the cushion that a lot of NBA players have to walk away and be absolutely far without their quality of life being severely compromised I don't think most NFL. Players have that luxury to sixteen hundred and ninety six players in a national football league wants a regular season starts and we all know what the exception of the select few a vast majority of them's of vast majority. Do them simply don't have that luxury, but if you don't mind Roz how would like to get back? To responding. Directly to what I heard from Troy. Vincent, in terms of how I feel about that and what my reaction to that was. What I thought when I listened to Troy Vincent cried awaited. He did Roz Max. I said this is a very, very, very bad look for the national football league. because. When an executive? Vice President. Who is a black man? Who has the direct ear? Of the Commissioner of the National Football League and any owner he so chooses. Is. So. Emotional. And crying so vividly over the phone lines. That tells you that it's not just about what's in the streets and it's not just about what he's seeing on camera. That is palpable frustration that a black man even in a position as high as him. Comes from his home to work every day having to show and deal with it. told me. He's talking. To somebody or has spoken to somebody like a Jerry, Jones has listened to this man who I actually like in them fond of on. This man Jerry Jones he takes a starch position with the Colin Kaepernick thing and then George Floyd passes away and literally for the first time in history we got A. Jerry Jones, we can't find him nowhere nowhere at all. We see them all camera. We heard his voice radio what he wasn't even spotted on on his yacht couldn't find him any damn place from the time that George Floyd passed away. So when you see these kind of things transpiring and you see how dog he is about. Kneeling during the national anthem or not really speaking out about black lives and and the the level of persecution that we've been subjected to these things of that nature and you hear what he is had to say and you remember the of things that Mr McNair got the sole owner for the Houston. Texas, he had to say that really agitated the Andre Hopkins. To stallworth wide receiver them at the top before he gets traded to Arizona and you listen to what's going on in Washington involving women and Dan you Snyder's organization with that Washington Football Franchise and you turn everywhere you turn and you see the stuff that's going on and you heard the kind of stuff that we have heard over the years to hear Troy Vincent. So emotional to see keyshawn Johnson who is a strong black man op brother literally crying on national television. It brings into perspective not just the black plight. But it also brings into perspective the plight of being black. In the NFL something's awry there too. We knew it. Of course, we knew it. We've talked about it but today it took o- on a different level. When you see the emotions that Troy Vincent and keyshawn Johnson, both former NFL players expressed over the airwaves. Of course, it wasn't just about them. It was about being black and being a black man in America and having to go with what we have to go through. But in Troy Vincent's case, it's also about communicating with people every day that just don't get it. And we know who those people are. And we know where they work. Stephen is what are the unique challenges of being a black man in the NFL I just thought that was an interesting comment and wanted to know what that meant. Well. The things that we're talking about right now communicating with them and recognizing they don't get it. They're insensitive to it. They have a deaf ear to it. They're tone deaf did dismissive all they care about is the bottom line. They don't give a damn now the NBA players feel that way too and they got guaranteed contracts the NFL players, most of their contracts aren't guaranteed and so when it's not guaranteed and the next man up mentality and bodies are being exchanged, you know damn near like a plantation, it seems sometimes okay and. That kind of stuff is going on and then you try to talk to people about elevating the level of conversation and touching on issues pertinent and relevant to us as a community and not society reminding the NFL that you on verge of making twenty five billion a year in profit because that's what Roger Goodell project years ago that they would be making by the year twenty, twenty, five, all of those things are going on and yet, and still what we're asking for return is for you to be sincere and genuine and expressing and displaying. Outright affection for black people and you see that some folks have expressed a problem with doing. So the moment they are inconvenienced in any way, then you find yourself thinking about it like Charles Barkley said, black folks you know what people talk to us about all the time about being black and take a Serb positions Tom Brady, and asked about white. People. Arabs ain't asked about white. People. Got To think about that. Major League, baseball postponed three games including the brewers game. Yesterday. In light of what the bucks did postpone didn't cancel. Stephen you made the argument a couple of weeks ago that you thought that if SEC football wasn't played, that could swing the general election because people in the. Base in trump's base would be very upset that they didn't have football, which is practically a religion down there and I disagreed because they he would simply shift blame and if because the pandemic is raging and they seem to be very low. Quality Susceptible, to very low quality information and easy to propagandize. and. Almost immune to facts because as Kellyanne Conway advisor of trump said you know they have alternative facts and if they stay in their kind of propaganda silos, like of the Fox News Propaganda Silo it wouldn't matter what happened because they. Handling of the pandemic has been great. The handling of the pandemic has been the worst in the industrialized democratic world by far. The United States by four at the federal level it's been a disaster. And as result, will we're dealing with this pandemic? And Yeah I didn't think that would affect you know voters because the blame would be shifted if the NFL doesn't play football like I think the NFL players have a lot of power here. If they don't play football, they do at a certain point. There will be the base the core will remain, but the football base goes all throughout the country and doesn't just hit one or another's political base. But insofar as there are such things as swing voters still will absolutely affect some of them. If the NFL season isn't played where it's interrupted as a result of social justice issues, and of course, we understand this was all against the backdrop of the pandemic. I. Think. I know it sounds like 'cause we exist sports bubble, and so we have this outsized. Of, the effect of sports but I think that actually might have political consequences in a general election. Jacob. Lake was shot in the back seven times by police in Kenosha. Wisconsin four days later, the Milwaukee Bucks boycotted their game five playoff matchup against the Orlando Magic on Wednesday now much of the sports world has followed suit including the NBA postponing the other playoff games Wednesday. Now, joining us on I take professor and Civil Rights Activists Dr Harry Edwards thank you for joining us Dr Edwards what has stood out most to you from yesterday. Well, not just yesterday I've been in contact with the players NBA also with a number of coaches and even the owners at. You could see this coming sometime ago these players are not just basketball players they live in this society and they go and play games. Many of them, the majority of them fearing they'll be shot on the way to or from the game they share. That reality though circumstances with the broader community, this is something that has come to turn thousand over the stadium walls, but it is not something that is capable of by the sports leagues in this country. Doctor Edwards obviously. It's always an honor and a privilege to have you on the show. So thank you for being on the show right now. Where do you think the? Where do you think the players should go from here? Assuming you would give them advice. What weren't advice? Would you give to them about where they should go from here? If indeed, they want to have the kind of impact that they clearly, and we all clearly designed for the have. Those a conversation that I had with some players before they had that meeting last night they having another meeting this morning. It's essentially the same conversation that I've been happy with the Commissioner's office in NFL. They must begin to come together and understand the urgency of this of of this moment they moved beyond protests where a statement is made to a boycott where you're sending a message. Now that message has to be meaningful and that means getting everybody on the same page and beginning to approach those people who have the power to make changes. If an NFL owner calls the governor of the government's GonNa, pick up your home. If you have steph curry and draymond green walk into the mayor's office about the circumstances I, involving police in Oakland California, the mayor is going to be there and availables. So they have to begin to strategize about how they bring all of their resources to bear. Ownership the money the political contacts sponsorship of the people who run the hotels and so forth and the restaurants would benefit. From the Games and and the League's. When they oppose those games are have to be brought to the table and I think the to begin to see some changes. Dr Edwards a couple of months ago. Sean doolittle Pitcher Relief Pitcher for the Washington nationals made a comment I. liked that that sports really like a reward for a functioning society for a healthy society and that he was referring mostly to cove it at the time. So we're literally not healthy but also in this way, obviously, we're not functioning in a healthy way. In terms of the way things go viral and movements go viral. If there's a contagion here to the NFL in my view in other words if NFL players did the same thing in my view that would have an even bigger impact because it probably cuts across or certainly does by the numbers. Demographic lines and in greater numbers. In your view, is it a better strategy to continue playing to have the microphones and cameras in front of their faces and to stay relevant that way or for this to act virailio and spread to other leagues and have those shutdown as well? I think it comes down to what the strategy is going forward America's never been a healthy society in terms of race going all the way back to insulate more black people and on top of it. The part of the problem that we have here and one is push things to this level is that are black people have never been saying as creditable witnesses and arbiters of their own circumstances that outcomes this goes back to the time that slade said we wanna be free and the slave master said my slaves I. Happy. So at the end of the day, they're sending a message and what happens now going far would would depend on what that strategy. Is and how playing games are not playing games of plays into in nineteen sixty one bill Russell organized a Barkat of a basketball game in Kentucky because the restaurant in a hotel where they were saying would serve the white players on the team but not the black. So he said, okay, we're not gonNA play, but he didn't continue to bar concert arrest and seen overnight issue even though it segregation was still ongoing challenge in American society. So it depends upon what the strategy is going forward I think that the NFL most of. Them have the role to play I'm impressed by the fact that so many teams have capsule practice of the day to discuss these issues. The fact that many of their players have to worry about being shot on the way home from practice on the way to practice I'm glad to see that. But the issue now is, how do we move from protest and and this strategy of sending a message to actually bringing about change to leveraging the power that we have bring about change and that's something that has to be worked out across the. Dr Edwards NBA players decided to go on and play and go to the bubble and play basketball. They put black lives matter on the court they put messaging powerful messaging quality things like that on the back of their jerseys and guess what police brutality still happening Jacob Lake still got shot in the back seven times and now players are clearly fed up. So in your opinion, do you think it was the right decision? To go play in the bubble. Yes I mean I. Think it was the right decision to go and play in the bubble I think irving those players who did not go and play also made the right decision in the same sense that in nineteen sixty eight when I was advocating Barkat of the Olympic Games. For the same reason, we we needed to send a message after the assassination of King and not just make a statement but making a statement was fine I think Carlos and snow did. An admirable thing I think that what they did as memorable for that reason. But at the same time we're talking about a tremendously complex situation. There are multiple paths to addressing it. So yes, I support those athletes who decided to go and play I think that put them in a position to make the statement that they made also support Tari. Irving. And those players some did not go and play because they felt that it was more important than maybe industries were. People who are trying to resolve these situations. In their communities so I don't see any contradiction at all. Dr Edwards alluding to the complexity of the situation. We know where the NBA play a stand and we know why they standing. We know how justified they are in standing where they stand on the other hand. You have a league where you're going to have owners that are sitting there saying we're losing billions of dollars. Okay. By the way we're standing with you we support you we we support black lives matter your participation in that we support the. Messages that you're trying to disseminate and what have you what do you feel about owners and the League itself League officials who may believe they should go ahead and continue to play because we're a partner with you. We side with you we believe in what you're doing, but we still feel that these games should be played to the next month or so to finish the playoffs, what do you say the League officials and League owners who feel that way? Well this to the challenge Del Faces. We've already had that conversation I know that they're meeting today in the League office to try to come up with a strategy to deal with this The reality is when all the says, we're GONNA play the he's not play nobody's GonNa come. On the play football, it's going to be the players who are going to ultimately make that decision depending upon the sacrifice they're willing to make. I think that Rogers job is to try to get everybody on the same page to communicate with the. Ownership to communicate with the GM's to communicate with some of the major sponsors, the networks, and so forth and say, Hey, here's why we are. Here's what we're dealing with. We could even get out in front of this and be proactively involved and on the right side of history, we can be run over by it, but the one thing that we can absolutely not tolerate is A. Division and separation between the ownership and the players between the sponsors and the teams we've got to be able to same page, and that's the challenge of Roger Goodell's doubt that he has to do what's in the best of the game and in this period of time. Given. That fact inevitable given the fact that sports inevitably recapitulate society he has to get everybody on the same page respective their personal politics. Dr Edwards having lived through and contributed to the civil rights movement, and now living through this period as it relates to sports. At least you made the comment earlier that this country's never been healthy in terms of race. But at least in the civil rights movement, the the ask was getting things that had not yet been available, and now what we've seen over the last four years as a revanchist impulse of of white supremacists largely but also white working class say, no, we want to take back what? We, feel like we've lost and so you even have law enforcement throughout country self identifying as white supremacists more publicly than let's say in the previous several decades given that when you look at what the athletes are doing today and you compare it to to the civil rights movement in the sixties and even into the seventies, how does it compare? How does how does what the athletes are doing right now compare to what Muhammad Ali and Bill Russell and Kareem abdul-jabbar and Jim Brown and others did then I think that there are some parallels with also some distinctions to graze distinctions. Today is that is the social media I mean you can you can have an athlete sit down and. Come up with an idea about the circumstances that we are confronted with hit single most powerful four letter word in the history of any language S. E. N. D. automatically goes out for two or three million people who send it out to a three million more doesn't come down to making a telephone call and getting the handful of outstanding athletes together to hold the press conference. The other thing is that these athletes today recognized long something about the pain in the African American community wanted to reasons as we continue cycle back to this time after time after time Olympic products that human rights was in large part about police violence against black people in the community after a twelve year old by tyrone guide was shot off of his vassal in Oakland California by cars. So we keep cycling back to this because the focus has been on pain. An African American community what these athletes today are saying is that we must begin to deal with the problem. In the. In. The white communities, their institutions, and their human relations that perpetuate this pain. So they're saying we'RE NOT GONNA. Play Games we're going to get your attention to deal with problem we're no longer. Concerned about simply responding to the protests and demonstrations and mass marches we came out. With that, we must now begin to deal with the institutional and other problems that generate that pain and this means privileged. This means supremacy prima say this needs are not exercise of power and most certainly definitional authorities. The kind of thing that Catholic attack. Seven shots in the back. That's what happened to Jacob leak at the hands of a police officer and Kenosha Wisconsin. Those seven gunshots reverberated into the sports world and four days. Later, the Milwaukee Bucks boycotted their game five playoff matchup against the Orlando Magic on. Wednesday, much of the sports world has followed suit including the NBA postponing the playoff games. Wednesday. Now, guys I wanted to get your final thoughts before we end the show Max will start you. Vote Get out into the community and get people to vote. That's your voice we have right now. As mentioned earlier in the show, the face of white supremacy feeling emboldened. By the politics of our country over the last four years and a sitting president who has not committed to respecting the results of an election. Get. Out, and vote. And get into the community local and federal levels vote. Will I echo the sentiment specifically directed at voting. That's the important thing what I also want to emphasize is this. Somebody make a point because we have folks on the left that popular for saying that you know they won the popular vote. They won the Popular Vote Hillary Clinton got about three million more votes than Donald Trump times in the last seven elections Democrats have won the popular vote. Well, guess what there's a different side today with presidential elections is called Electoral College. Votes stop complaining about a game, you're fully aware of edges. About the game and learn how to win if you're playing basketball football rules don't apply if you playing football basketball rules don't apply get over it master the game and win. All right I'm going to jump in here because according to load NBA players will resume the playoffs. So it's a historic time in sports. All eyes are on the athletes and seemingly so according to. The NBA playoffs as well watching. I. Ache we continue the CON-. Vote tomorrow.

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Decoding our DNA

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20:21 min | 8 months ago

Decoding our DNA

"This is the code an in depth. Look at one new story from Africa every week. But costs from the BBC World Service are supported by advertising. A K. in in Garard macadear. Mike this is. A twenty five year old Kenyon, who lives in Nairobi. Saudi describes herself as charming. Enters. It. Alone a loner. I kept to myself a lot. And for the most part says life is like that old. Many twentysomethings just thinks she's passionate about I. Love reading a Red Alert I write. What sort of things do you write at eight plans? And neath agriculture towns whatever catch things. She worries about making money dishonest double job, AAC something that can give me an income every month. And be contented with that. But when Sally was nine, she had what she calls a crisis. I was in school and I started feeling a lot of pain. I was feeling pain in my fit and my knees and My wrist ever. Mae West Hat Maybach Barkat. So I couldn't feed. I couldn't stand including dried. I stuck into hospital. That is when it came to know what really I was suffering from. This! He's the cone and World Service original podcast welcome. I'm Kim Jagai Nitsa and every week we. Through the continent for stories, lap matter and unpick a single. This is the CO he need. The. The COMB! In this episode, Sally's story, and what her illness about the disadvantage, black Africans face when it comes to drug treatments, because they only represent a tiny percentage of the genetic samples, useful pharmaceutical research, plus how Nigerian company trying to fix things? Let's go back to Saudi. Who at the time had just been diagnosed? And what were you then told that day have fecal fellow Mimea. And? Did you know anything about sickle cell anemia? Did? Not Did you know of anyone with it? No and you were told that you have this disease. How did you react? I would thad. I Live I don't know I felt really bad like why me I. It was it was mortifying. Why was it mortifying because I couldn't be no more that I told myself like. I not like the rest I. Am way only different. I am different. Innovated way. And how did these differences play out well? It changed my life. I, Gotten classes. I didn't go talk. Often like my friends t, they couldn't play with them. So that will be like you see your friends going to play. Now? I! Can because my fit will hard. That pain that Sally mentioned there that caused her feet hurt so much she couldn't go out to play with. A friends is due to a faulty gene that affects how red blood cells develop. That cells on normally round shape, but with sickle cell the shape becomes crescent shape like an old farm tool called a sickle. And that shape makes it hard for blood cells to through the blood vessels, the cells end up inside connecting and sometimes clotting. This results in extreme pain, and it can cause damage to bones, muscles and organs. Is? It mainly joints that ache. What are the characteristics of an sickle cell as they manifest the new sally? While it's not only the joined it's it's everything even the head. You have a headache very splitting headache. And fool really tired and fatigued, okay? Well Sally I. Ask you to record a diary to capture how you're feeling and you very kindly obliged. So we're GONNA. Hear this first entry and this Wednesday afternoon. Eric filling stiff. Only neck and laying hand inflammation. Sometimes I, I can't wake up because. My knees are so in my hands, can't really? Do Anything. They can't even hold a cup, but only had to get up to. As the day progressed, and the sun came out. I started feeling a little bit better around two three hours, okay. A little bit tired, but okay I didn't get any complications today, but from the business in the morning I don't make it may hand me knees. Sally says one of the hardest part of this disease is trying to figure out the future especially when it comes to relationships and having children. PLO when you fat thinking of July. Only guard. Have! I can do whatever people do. I can guard on Fridays. I even be normal relationship like other people. What is wrong with me? You've kind of likely get. When you say you copy a relationship. Why can't you sally? Type Eight S and I got. a normal pipeline. Who is a? Through if we come together, what sal is saying here is that if she meets someone who also carries the sickle cell trait, there is a one in four chance that child the couple will have will have sickle cell disease. While the disease itself is fairly rare for more people could be carrying the trait without knowing. And this means there's a risk that their child would also carry the disease in some countries like. Local governments have made type tests. Legal requirements before a couple can marry in Nigeria premarital sickle cell screening has been adopted by many churches. Who then either discourage you? From getting married or refuse to conduct an altogether. This idea that you might not be able to have the relationship that you want I. Mean how how does that make you feel sally? I think. I've come to accept it. Lake. It's not. It's not a much. When somebody can live income if they don't then I am good too long making money. An estimated three hundred thousand babies born with sickle cell disease each year. Seventy five percent of those are in Africa. The disease accounts for six percent of childhood debts on the continent, those numbers while big on nothing compared to diseases like meningitis malaria, which account for hundreds of thousands of deaths each year, but here's the thing. Researchers know what causes sickle cell disease. They've known it for over five decades yet. Still there's no cure. Currently the only treatment that might offer a potential cure is procedure called stem cell transplant, which is expensive and risky, so it's really done some say the reason why these no cure is because it's just one of those diseases that's just not seen as urgent and so it doesn't attract as much attention and funding. Bill but there's also something else in the way of finding q now to understand that we have to rewind the clock and go back to nineteen ninety. A lot happened that year. Nelson Mandela was released from prison. Algeria hosted and won the Africa Cup of Nations for the first time. That, year was also winning, ambitious product began the biggest project ever undertaken in biology, the most revealing step yet towards understanding our own species, the dawning of a new age of medicine. It was called the human genome. Project, Here's how Dr. In American scientists described the project. This is an ambitious. Some would say audacious effort to try to understand our own instruction book. The instruction book for Human Biology. Written, in the language of DNA, which is a very simple language with only four letters in its alphabet, but stretches to a book of about three billion of these. They was a slow. This instruction book the Human Reference Genome as it was being cooled was missing. Millions of DNA sequences that are found only in Africans. When you look at genetic studies, they rely almost entirely on DNA from people of European descent, the lack of African Danny connects us back to Saudi because it means that it's unlikely accused will be found for conditions like sickle cell disease, which affect primarily African populations. So what can be done? Hello I can hear you clearly. Can you hear me if he could start by introducing yourself and what you do? My Name is Sarah Multiple Dr. Modibo has been working on exactly this problem for years studied medicines I'm a clinician and then I specialized in clinical microbiology I've always been interested in science and also interested in the world of microbes and so even. Even when I went into medicine at always wanted to specialize in microbiology, and so when I finished I was very interested. In different types of bacteria, viruses, Fungi Modibo is clearly someone who is passionate about who work. And when we spoke, it was in the middle of lockdown in Lagos I almost how it was affecting her. This is affected everyone on different skills. Scientists would always been expecting that they would be a lot more emerging infectious diseases coming up, and there's been a lot of talk unpreparedness for the next fire virus outbreak when we had the saw the MAS are. Going on and I. Don't think anybody was quite prepared. For this significant outbreak that we've had on the widespread effect, it has had on the economy on social living on on on the on humans, as it may be so I find this very frightening that have a two year old. He just turned three, and if I'm going out because sometimes. Sometimes I do need to go out because of the nature of my work. He calls me back. And he asked me for my masks and make love, and he who is cautions me to be careful and I find that for three year old to to be doing that than we understand you know the level that this has had the effect his Hatay families. And at the Medieval, is currently the vice president of nine opperations at an ambitious startup called fifty four gene. The companies based in Lagos and they are mission to build the world's largest Pan African bio bank, basically a bank for saliva blood tissue to use and research so primarily we wanted to assist in improving the genomics data for Africans, because as we know less than three percent of global genome estates that is used for Genome Wide Association. Studies is from African descent. It's worth driving that point again. In pharmaceutical research around the world African. DNA only makes up a miniscule amount less than three percent. When we're trying to figure out the nature of the human genome, which is DNA that makes up every human being right usually studies cold four, but they're usually done in Caucasian populations. Where they'll provide saliva. Blood samples so that we can look at the genetic makeup of a human being and that genetic makeup. If you could map it, you probably find answers to some. Diseases that we have that we don't have cures for. When you're looking at diagnostics for test sometimes, you need to have that data to able to know what the appropriate test to use. When you're looking drug development, you'd need to have that data to know what drug would work best for certain population, there are certain diseases that are more common common in Africa and in West. Africa particularly for instance the sickle cell disease, so if we don't have the data of the genetic makeup of Africans, then you can't begin to answer some of these questions. But why has there been such little? African genomic data available. What's behind that that's? Very low percentage. That's a very complex. Question, but I'll try to fight as best as I can so one thing is ethics surrounding research data on also the benefit. And avoiding of exploitation, so there's a lot of things that have gone on in research on the African continent that have led to exploitation, and so people are very wary of research. Going on an example, I'll give you is that if for instance, one individual in a community provides a sample and then twenty thirty or forty down nine that happens to be part of a major medical breakthrough. Breakthrough thinking through. How does that benefit that individual, which is nearly impossible Okay, but how does it benefit the wider community on how doing show that you know it? It does benefit them, and it does doesn't get you know by time it's. It's a drug somewhere far off in the United States, so way way may be than the individuals that were part and parcel of this research I've forgotten. And that concern about exploitation is legitimate. Just last year, a major genome research center in the UK was accused of commercializing a gene chip without proper legal agreements with partner institutions, and the consent of the hundreds of African people whose donate DNA was used to develop the chip to get its DNA samples. Fifty four gene is working with hospitals across Nigeria targeting patients with cardiovascular disease, cancer, metabolic conditions and sickle zone where they are. Ongoing studies are institutions. The company works with research assistants to recruit volunteers obtain the consent and collect blood tumor tissue in saliva, samples. Fifty four gene is not the only organization trying to remedy the lack of African genetic diversity. There are other organizations and institutions working on this to. You for gene is a for profit entity. How then do you balance the fact that you have to make profits with fists idea of advancing health in Africa? Can those to be balanced. Oh. Yes, they can, and that's where the benefit sharing model would come into play, and sometimes I don't like to see as a for profit in that instance, but you need funding to put in these innovations in place and the infrastructure in place so sometimes the payment is not really for profit, but really to pay for the services for the infrastructure for the logistics of collecting the samples so so all. All of that would have to be put into place and I feel like that's why healthcare has not really been funded, because there's this debate about for profit and commercializing by the same time, if we don't begin to think of how we can, actually in a very ethical manner, have some profit, then we won't be able to sustain these genetic solutions which are very expensive to put on. In terms of infrastructure DOXA multiple people says the pandemic has highlighted the importance of the work. They're doing and why Africa really needs to be part of that conversation. If the vaccine or drug is found to be working for covid nineteen, for instance, if we haven't been part of that research on the scientific advisory for that, then before we are able to make decisions that would be able to benefit the African continent to take several years, so we want to be able to leverage this to provide this data and to improve health care solutions for the African population. And now back to Sally in. The young woman living with sickle cell, disease. The is known as yet for sickle cell anemia How do you deal with that I don? I, don't really try to think about it so often because I mean. You're like this. That's your fate, so you have to accept it. And you have to do everything possible to make your life better. No one else will come and try to leave. You earn or do anything. It's outpour new to help yourself out of it. Sou- I think I'm resigned with like I. don't care, I don't care anymore. The way I accepted myself and I'm taking kill myself. What are your hopes for the future? I wanted to be a journalist. Mice, communication several been dreaming, being employed baby. We see I want to comfortable. But financially. And physically here, no, there's no cure but be or clearly. I just wanted to be fine I am. I want to be no more. Thanks for listening to the. podcast from the. Focus in Africa family. Some of you got in touch with us about our graduation episode judging from the Conversation Online. Many of you could relate to what NA prints felicia going through. One audela sent us this voicemail. Hi My name is Laurie I'm a twenty three year old from Zimbabwe. The irony of being turned in Zimbabwe is that pandemic northern dynamic student life is full of uncertainties because of the poor economic situation, lecturers and professors, time and time again strike. Which means four year study program may actually take six years life after graduation very hard, which is exactly what motivated me to reach out to? My peers implanted virtual talk for Zimbabwean graduates class of twenty twenty. Our goal is to pack, hope, sight, inspiration, and start conversations, but military graduates. Thanks please do keep those coming. We want to tell the stories that you want to hear now. You might have a specific story in mind. What could be a general topic idea citizen email at the comb at BBC to call. We'll drop us a brief voice memo on WHATSAPP at class, four, four, zero, seven, five, two, one, six, double, six, zero, zero eight. This episode was produced by Mary Good Goodhart. The sound design was by Marco or IANTO. The music you're listening to was produced by Eric Joker. Artwork was created by Fred Martin Piece Lynch. Is Our editor and Kim China?

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Air Traffic Control  AIR046

AFF on AIR Podcast

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Air Traffic Control AIR046

"Who this is a if the strain frequent flyer podcast bringing you the latest news tips and tricks for stranded travelers getting in welcome to episode forty-six of fifth on. I met Graham. And it's Saturday the third of October two thousand and twenty coming up in today's episode REX's crazy plan to lease Boeing seven three sevens and compete head on with corner invasion on capital city routes. What it's like working as an air traffic controller and used Qantas Boeing seven? Four seven blackhawks sell out in just allies. That's all coming up later in the episode. But I is what else is making news in the vote of airlines and frequently points this four nine and festively. There's been more good news on the reopening of some state borders after reopening to the. Act Two weeks ago south. Australia is now allowing travelers from New South Wales after they were no mystery cases of community transmission in New South Wales for the preceding two weeks and loss Thursday Queensland reopened its border to some New South Wales residents from specific codes in the far north of the state but the Queensland government has said it has plans to open up to any other parts of New South Wales until at least after the state election at the end of this month regardless of the health situation the northern territory. Meanwhile is on track to reopen to seaside from next Friday. The ninth of October and Norfolk island has reopen now t new South Wales and act. Travel is although visitors to the island will soon be required to pay twenty five dollars for an entry pass and in some more good news. Lord has has also finally reopened to tourists yesterday. Qantas link has reinstated regular flights to the island to cater for the huge pent-up demand although demand is now so high that accommodation on Lord Howe Island is mostly booked out already who Christmas Any Zealand is extending the status of all of its points Silva gold and elite Menendez by a further twelve months in New Zealand had already given its frequent flyer as a twelve month extension so these ads a second-year on top of that and the extension is being made available as a banked year of status to all members which is activated. If it's needed and when it's needed so that frequent flyers who had already renewed the status. This year will still benefit this week. Turkish Airlines also started extending Status extensions to its members for another year. Turkish Airlines had previously given a six month extensions. Which would you to expire about now but Obviously flying isn't back normal just yet so it has given its members and Elvis's Pov months of status the anes edge rewards travel adventures. Credit Card will no longer give away a complimentary new return vision. A straight flight over vision lounge passes from the first of December this year as a result of this change the anes rewards travel. Adventures annual fee will also be reduced from two hundred twenty five dollars to one hundred and twenty dollars but the loss of the Virgin flight and lounge benefits. Do you make this product significantly less attractive. Even with the lowest annual fee. Meanwhile calls rewards mastercard will soon cap. The number of fly buys points that can be end at the full rate each month by the aid rewards travel adventures and Co's rewards Mazda cards have no international transaction fees which make them popular in normal times with travelers but in some good news combine wards WESTPAC altitude and the amplifier woods program of Saint George Bank of Melbourne and bank essay have oh now reinstated points. Transfers to velocity frequent flyer is now the only major trillion bank that he still blocking the ability to transfer points to velocity. Qantas has quietly ended the price promise that was designed to encourage customers to book flights and hotels directly on the airlines website thereby saving quotas money on travel agent commissions. There has been no announcement from Qantas about the removal of its price. Promise which seems to have happened during the nineteen shutdown and quotas also did not respond to my request for comment on this but it seems like quotas could no longer justify the cost of administering the price. Promise when it's currently paying alone a travel agent commissions. Anyway Qantas does not pay travel. Agent Commission on domestic bookings generally and the airline is not currently operating international flights and when it does resume selling international tickets. The commission that quantum space travel agents will be less than before as well a whole range of new domestic flights. Out of Camber. Airport have been announced over the past week much to the surprise and delight of locals after Queensland reopened its border to the a C Qantas launched flights from camera to Coolangatta for the first time and Alliance Airlines announced flights from Cambria to hands via the sunshine coast. Then this week link. Airways announced that it will fly direct from camera. Hobart from December and fly Pelican announced direct flights from camera to pull Macquarie it comes off to Singapore Airlines sadly announced. It will exit the Camera. Market White return off to international flights to Australia. Resume normally vision. Australia's new Bain capital Currently in talks with pilot unions regarding a new enterprise bargaining agreement ban is said to be seeking a significant reduction in pay and improved efficiency from the pilots. The federal government will continue funding a minimum domestic abuse network until much next year including for regional flights. Which is good. News and Melvin. To accompany has started selling seats on what? It's calling a southern lights flight which departs for Melbourne around. Apn Fly south to a latitude of sixty five degrees south optimal viewing for the Aurora Avenue. And then stay around. Nineteen minutes said. Well it's down at Atlanta Cheetahs Zigzag around to allow people on both sides of the plane hopefully to get a good view of the southern lights. And then we will fly back to mel when landing around five. Am The next morning. The flight will take place. On a chartered. Boeing seven. Eight seven of Qantas and includes fool international meal service but the tickets on cheap. They start at four thousand three hundred and eighty dollars for a pair of two economy class seats at that price. You would hope to get some pretty good vs. Although that's not one hundred percent guaranteed. That's what's making news on the trailing frequent flyers fortnight for more regular news updates and deals subscribe to the Szeto follow us on facebook and head over to Australian frequent flyer dot com dot. Au for details Inmate is year regional express airlines rex for short announced an ambitious proposal to acquire new jet aircraft and launch flights between Australia's capital cities. Virgin Australia had just collapsed into intrigued. Ministration and at the time this announcement was met with healthy skepticism by many in the industry he saw it as opportunistic. Rex is already established airline in his trailer but currently it only operates flights from Australia's capital cities to country towns. It's lodge fleet of around. Sixty aircraft consists exclusively at the moment of thirty four seat. Saab three forty aircraft so operating flights directly between the capital cities. Easing jets will be quite a new thing for the regional airline and for awhile. It wasn't quite clear whether this is actually just posturing but last week. Rex signed a long form term sheet and announced. It is in advanced negotiations with capital to secure one hundred fifty million dollars in funding to support the launch of capital city flights. For much next year under the proposal the Asian private equity firm would eventually hold forty eight percent of REX's shares. The funding is not yet confirmed and it is subject to regulatory approvals including from the Foreign Investment Review Board. But it does share. Airline is serious and I mean with likelihood. The funding will come through this week. Rex also confirmed that it has signed letters of intent with two aircraft levels. To initially acquired six Boeing seven. Three seven eight hundred aircraft which previously belonged to Venice Trivia. The I will be delivered to rex as early as the first of November which is just in a month from now and the others will follow in the coming months. Rex's first capital city rooted says we'll be from Melbourne to Sydney with flat. Starting on the first of March next year REX pool initially used three Boeing seven three seven to operate that route and will add more aircraft routes to its fleet over time as demand picks up other routes to be added include. Sydney to Brisbane Melbourne to Brisbane Sydney Cambra Sydney to Adelaide and Sydney to Perth Rex's deputy Champs Jones shop. Says that the first tickets for its Melbourne. Sydney flights should be on CEO from December subject to regulatory approval. It's a highly ambitious in risky plan. But could it work? Well his the thing. History has shown that there isn't enough room in the is trailing domestic airline market for three big players and said collapsed. Shot AFTER VIRGIN. Blue came along in two thousand and Aris trails attempt to become a fed. Domestic play during the loss decayed was very short. Lived in two thousand and twenty demand Air Traveling. Australia's about the lowest. It's been years and is this really a good time to flood the market with more capacity and try to compete with to already established players on one hand. Rigidness trailer is weak at the moment. So maybe it is but Qantas is a formidable competitor and at the bottom of the market as well quotas has jetstar quotas going to have a better product than wrecks in almost every respect God from the onboard products to the lounge offering in the frequent flyer program and then and then Jetstar can be used to compete strongly with wrecks on price. So how exactly does Rick's plan to we customers while it's not yet known whether Rix will offer business class or things like in-flight entertainment WIFI which it currently does not on its regional flights? Rex has indicated that they probably more likely to opt for an economy kloss configuration on the aircraft. Although they have said that if the aircraft they receive Already fitted with business class. They might just go with it for the sake of Getting the fly running quickly. Say I guess we'll see on that? We do know that REX will offer included checked baggage meals and onboard assigned seating which is pretty much. Exactly what vision plans to do with its new strategy rigs also says that it's phase. We priced at affordable levels So they won't necessarily be wearing off the high yielding Corporate Market Leisure and budgets budget conscious travelers. Which again is exactly what vision is planning to do. So as far as I can see the only real difference between vision and REX's plan here is Well verge already hasn't established frequent flyer program international partners whereas Rex's kind of the underdog here albin tones of the product offering. It's going to be pretty similar by the looks of it. Rex's current low program could rex. Business Flyer is a bit of Jerry for owner state has no partners and it's basically just by attained flights get two free scheme through which he the cheapest rex phase during actually qualified to earn any credits towards that and to join rex business. Fly You need an Abyan? And there's a nine thousand nine hundred dollar joining fee which can easily be avoided unlike Qantas frequent flyers ridiculous. Ninety nine dollars fifty joining which can very easily with paying at. Although rex does offer lounge membership and Rick's already operates three. Small Airport Lounges in Sydney Melbourne Adelaide. Which mind you currently closed. Rix Also doesn't have any status t levels for frequent flyers and this will make very difficult for the airline to we. Talk T freaked flies from Qantas invasion. Who used to pick like lounge access and all the other benefits when they flying. Rex is reportedly planning to launch a frequent flyer program and new one which based on projected valuations they putting. Ford is likely to be a coalition program like cuanza-sul velocity with many non airline partners. But this is not going to happen until at least a year after it begins operations on the Golden China rates and rex currently only has those three small airport lounges. That's not enough to offer a consistent product frequent flyers and frankly those lounges are going to become crowded very quickly. If Rick Starts Operating Boeing seven. Three seven with five times as many seats Karnak aircraft. Personally I do feel that trillion rex. Kennel both survive in this space. They're going to be going after almost exactly the same segment of the market. Both say they're gonNA compete very strongly on price and that sounds like a recipe for price will and heavy losses right at a time. Invasion is just emerging from voluntary administration. And don't forget the REX. Just barely six months ago was planning to the federal government that it didn't have enough cash to survive another few weeks without government. Help Rix were there. Grace does say that it's going to be funding. Its expansion Pity leasing extend investment not with government money. But still you go to WANNA consume his. You know with all the extra competition next to you may be winners in the short term but in the long term if not the airlines survive. We're going to get more consolidation in the market. So I'm not so sure. Time will tell. Some industry analysts think that REX invasion his trailer would be better off working together. Verge withdrawn from quite a lot of regional routes with the retirement of the rex currently serves exclusively regional. Reads something that they'd be better off working together. Rex Take over the regional staff and she do the capital city stuff but of course. Rex has very different ideas. Did you know that you can save five percent at West big W and Dan Murphy's among Stolz with cash awards? Cash awards allows you to purchase a gift cards which can be used at all wars group retailers at a five percent discount and with cash awards. He can also an cash back when shopping online at one thousand retailers including wines booking dot COM Vodafone and Maya. 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When he fly they managed the flow of aircraft through the sky as well as in and out of Busia poets ensuring that old planes keep a safe distance from each other in Robinson is an experienced air traffic control at Brisbane airport and is also worked in Cairns Townsville and the which Sundays you may recognize him from his AF handle Iro and he joins me now on the podcast and just before I get to the interview. A quick apology about the sound quality. It's not too bad but it does sound just a little bit like an sitting in an air traffic control tower in that I'm in the cockpit of an aircraft although I guess if you think about it like that it does add to the authenticity. Enjoy the interview. Welcome firstly to the podcasting. Thanks for having me so in. Tell me where exactly e- wick. And what's your role currently working the been tim. Malaria doing a pledge departures and fly and also the s by Ceram airport which way go cast ahead in the past as you mentioned for what in towns will end canes on the sectors currently the rollers in the temporary prison. Okay said what does that Roll day-to-day dealing with aircraft on approach into Brisbane and also the departing Brisbane with a new parallel runways. Yes boy control into the Ritz. Carlton Malaria's do we've aircraft from about two hundred kilometers from Brisbane and cal focused approach onto the into the Goa coast record. Okay who's responsible for the aircraft? Once they're on the ground and on the runway and who's responsible also for them once day outside if your your area like when months. They've climbed to assist in distance from Brisbane. Tell deals with the runway and the choice around the and after they've cleaned them for. Tyco they call departments which is so we on the airspace around the airport. The tail doesn't actually on any of the spice they called the patches. Or if we're doing approach we clear them for the final approach and then transfer them to the tail war Clearest Elaine on the remind alsaud avail space which gets where fifty or sixty kilometers from Brisbane. The Kohl Center and I deal with the phase of the flight. All the initial arrivals in T for from cruising altitude down to about ten thousand eight in Bantu the Tim Malaria. Okay so as I understand. It is to kind of centers industry these Melvin Saint Brisbane Santo Space. Roughly today deal with so Brisbane Center. Basically does s base North Cal lawn three Brisbane just north springs across to Nicaragua. North of that they will that and South Lettuce Melanson. Uh and in this the Tim O. areas some reports. The major airports have tim control units. Which would their own is by those if court so Perth and at lied and canes have their own tales for that and dance was done by the military's down just dump on the military as well. Okay so then okay. So all the major airports have they were in town for the area around the airports and the Senate looks off to the whole the whole country basically in the surrounding area. I think it's huge area to be looking after distinct to centers you. Do you actually sit in the tower like the air traffic control tap at Brisbane airport. Now we Building to the tail. The Taylor only has of course more when you get up into the tail and I have air joint control who you understand. You said before. And he's cost on his tail and is now the control a several controls he deal with the taxi wise which is Graham Controller and now with the parallel Roma in Brisbane is to air joint. Control is flu each one way. So erosion control for. As Roma now. Speaking of the parallel runway opens just a few months ago at probably at a time when Brisbane needs the second runway. The least what differences the second runway made to. I guess to your job and just to the flow of traffic in and out of Brisbane. Well it's difficult to say at the moment because it's difficult scenario that we have with the kind of traffic but when we were doing the training we were sort of different scenario. I it's a different way of doing the separation onto south of their remedies. It should allow for a lot more traffic to be moved It's difficult to see how we have. That is out with the covert situation at the moment. Traffic to the north of Brisbane Queensland is actually GONNA FADE TRAFFIC. Say the traffic onto the new. Mike is most traffic north and west near Depa oil weighing on the new runway. Okay so near. Rome is actually quite busy. Say is two separate ways that we deal with separating onto those parallel Roma's saw the independent dependent at the moment would just running to paint approaches to it which means that saw a dependent on the other side Independent. I can run independent one another Dan funnel but we need more controllers today that we just don't have the traffic to justify the extra controls at the console at the moment now. Hopefully that'll pick out very soon day. hopefully hopefully when we listen to the air traffic control towers speaking to the aircraft off. He Times like seed and star when you talking about departing and arriving craft. Could you just explain what they mean so the CD's a standard instrument the Panchen which is for instrument aircraft says two different ways aircraft generally navigate instrument flight rules five five or will and for a firefighter? Flawed bicycle needs to be close as affectively in the department maintain their end separation from terrain. Another aircraft visually Instrument flight rules. Don't make that so for instrument. Flight Rozov are the way that they depart. The runway is for a CD from with the passion. It's just a methodology for describing how to depart the run one in a safe manner because we'll have a gradient on that is to claw the Acropolis declined to separate itself from terrain and they can either be given a writer scene which they deposit control. Alicia heading for the aircraft the floor and then get right. Up acted on the track or procedural seem which just describes a route as well as a gradient and generally has requirements or restrictions on it to separate it so from the standard arrival route and it just gives us stated. I will the aircraft statewide for two flights with the Tim. Area and unknown way. Track that we can separate from an astonishing standard timmel arrival route and just describes by to be the opposite to the seed the why that aircraft will fly from a effectively and fly stated through the ten malaria to get onto final for the remind. And it's just a game a methodology that puts it on a route that we can separate from. The season's style will generally have requirements or restrictions on it to separate them from each say say keeping the planes and Nice in predictable in the the direction the going like s crates. I it just standard routes that set themselves. Iran was from the deposits as long as. They're all nice standard raw and seeds. Happy at the moment. Obviously we all need to Cape One and a half meters away from each other aircraft a lot more than that. What's the distance that you need to keep aircraft away from each other in the sky vertically and horizontally vertically it's just some fate as the KOA separation Stimulant Association fate up to twenty nine thousand? Which is flat to they. Flightless from ten thousand fake. He's describing. Fake Blood Tim. Thousand feet in flight levels above that so let has become flat. Little one month's area say it's generally to task fate out to plot to non zero but Gordon that we easy guy said now. I think it gives all the way up to plot. Four one. Zero think awesome fate. I play as long as they are. What's called a sandwich was reduced? Vertical separation minima a little bit high for me because I left that survived tighting thousand fake. Nassau little beyond me. I'll be same status but I think it's obvious as long as it's the guys up to four one zero now and laterally all US three malls we can eat three malls in the terminal area and outside of that. It's five miles for the honor at sectors. Okay why do you need to make sure that the planes Assay Farley? It comes down to really only need one nautical mile between the possible positions of aircraft. But because there's a positional positional era in the writer. Depending on how far way from the right hand the tolerance has been added into that and then roundabout to a mall for each aircraft. Say this only can I possibly bay one more between them? It's not going to be that with the right as we have these days. But that was the generalize rule beckon thirty or forty years ago when it came out the separation standing why is added on. Top of that say depends on you kind of have three miles a lot. Following heavy for example say yet. We need more for that. Yeah so you mentioned the right offscreen. What can you actually see? When you're sitting at your at your desk on the right information do you have about each of the aircraft? We have a call Sawn. We have the can't agree we have the CON- OUT ACHIEVED. We have what she'd plagued cleaned them. We have a grant speed random to semi two digits. That's on the screen. So it's the first step he's doing. One hundred twenty knots. Will shed twelve on screen. Elast money's last numeral is rampant and taken off the screen and then for the unreal people that got fancy things. Loyd had I deal with them on. Cpi control a dollar link. They've got that access to them. As well and different other places they have made for the different separation status. When they're outside right are that's on the can access that information as well. Okay so obviously job need to speak to a lot of pilots for lots of different countries with different accents in varying levels of English proficiency. How do you make Shaw in a job way? Obviously communication is very critical that you can understand them and they can understand you do have English proficiency standard so that there's a minimum actually. We went through this fifty years ago when it was boarding. And it's just a methodist just a standard that has to be met and we also communicate in standard phraseology. There's a list of phraseology that listed in but generally the standard and it's fairly standard we don't deviate from that unless there's something unusual happening say it's just a climb to descend to and this is to stand while doing it. It's the same with the flight levels. It's fairly standard. In that. Way The star arrivals the there will named so. It's not unusual. They're all listed somewhere. Said we're not trying to describe something. It's just the name of that Saito Star so this should be able to on that and then I just plug it into the system. So it's generally not too bad casually you have some issues that it's it's. I mean if there's something unusual that they wanted to do. Generally that doesn't generalize thing doesn't happen to have me sort of. I know you've got to try and keep the the conversations between you and the pilots kind of using the standard phraseology and things but d get any pilots surgery cheeky. The have kind of abandoned with it depends on how busy it is too much painter. That goes on Especially if it's a dull day sometimes Christmas. There's a lot of Sometimes Mary Christmases that go on. Sometimes painful and sometimes you get the odd request. The request to go pass barn by things that from jet which has led to do not generally. It's busy mouth that the band doesn't happen that generally the pilots and controllers respectful and courteous occasional times when it gets a little tense. But everybody's is not a lot of Banta but the more busy against the chase were opportunity there is to have the Banda and so if a pilot didn't follow your instructions or perhaps they didn't sponsor to you what would she do. An air traffic controller. Choice them a couple of times for a read back of if recorded back and I didn't read it back and then after a certain period of Tom. Somebody several minutes we stop putting what's Golda phase on and we and I'm certainly as the not a normal communications and I can try different things like some of them have set finds in the cockpit control sipping a set sometimes listening on the company frequency that we can use sometimes for the Control Dodd Olympic. Darling we cannot let a message to them and then if none of that works we. Just the rule is that we began to follow the last clear. So that would acknowledged. And we assume that they're gonNA work that that's taken with a intro to appoint because he's not guaranteed that's what they're going to do and you can't obviously question not. GonNa do that. They may have some sort of emergency that has to be on as a possibility as well said. I might not follow that. I want to just put the students like us by came so you have to take all of those possibilities to a camp and generally what we'll do is just a crop away from the possible actions so they possible. Read or possible if I wanted to put up on the grand soon as possible. Just make them why from direct rates and things like that so generally we'll just holiday craft life on them it will cause major disruption of course but work with the possibilities that can happen. Does that happen very often? Not generally the domestic pilots all list of frequencies spice. They're flying through the pregnant. They listen to disappear for something else is happening destructive famous. Something that I might have today's something but generally is to obviously in the domestic jets and that so they know outer wall Maybe we should be talking to somebody or we haven't heard it and I can find frequency fairly easily so the domestic disturbance doesn't happen international guards are generally is more in the company generally as well say at a minimum to so they have a fair idea as well the professional and they generally deal with that fairly well. The law day crossed at Mont. Some usual and I'm on a in Miami. Have One righty only be one flying them up to switch off together until someone else. Forget to switch back that causes more issues than Domestic paid a real issue with the domestic jet. Paul it for a long time. That's good in your career. Have you ever had to deal with an eastern mid air emergencies that aicraft on your control of experienced of headquarters of number of a lot seems like sometimes I'll bet if there's been engine losses multi genetic aircraft not ones that have just not added single engine laminated any of those I've had a few helicopters. With tip warnings that have to mainly put it on the ground depressurization and and I had fuel exhaustion. One which was a little bit weird in some ways didn't actually tell us until the last minute he's running out of fuel. Bamsey canes and he ever played towns was so they could have waited tangible and up fuel but didn't tell us to rot the very last moment on on African see north of Townsville and in the end I ran out of fuel and we didn't think it was going to be a good ending because you fight it off right our and into the training Ram Canes but he actually she managed to put down on the ground valley somewhere think he landed on a road somewhere say he was very lucky. She got away with it. So there's a number of times a few urgency's here lose. So yes we're when when a plane off the right. I like like like like that planning cans that you were talking about. What's going through your mind? Facie like Because obviously human worried about these people and and secondly like what prestigious NHL controlling follow it. Well Yeah we're very concerned about that particular aircraft. We'll tell me that ain't go off right off that it was a very unusual situation situation we knew was happening. It was playing out so it was a little bit easier to deal with and there was an expectation that drop off the right out at some point is he went to make the hills and drop off the right of coverage so that one was that was that was screaming for the poice to go looking for that particular one. So we haven't had any. I haven't had any ones with just dropped off right on without casually the transponder. Which is what the the interrogates will drop off. It just symbolic on screen and can just Austin transponders dropped off. There is a check just to make sure I still obviously is a stop and then get them switch it back on and luckily they'll the ones I've got must have just switched off. All the transponders broke a lot of them. Had the second six that I just flick it to the second set and then it words. It's just a matter of taking that they're still there and getting to switch to a different set all recycling the transponder show so I wanna go back a little bit. Yee's have been an issue control now. Third almost thirty years. It's quite a quite a long impressive career. Why did you fess decide that you wanted to become an air traffic controller? Well I grew up on a property and really want to get away from my father. He was the one who actually suggested. worked in the safety section the referee wall and he he knew a little bit about air traffic controllers say there was actually an ad he just came if he actually found it in the paper and he said well. You want to get away from the farm. You don't want to stay on the phone for that long and I didn't want to stay on the phone too much hardware. That was say he actually was the month suggested and so looked into it and just applaud. I've been ever since actually so the thirties on general second that'll pay nature of it control. Wow so what? What kind of training did you have to do to become a traffic control so it has changed over the years but I did it? In Eighty nine and ninety it was two years of started a course at the University of Tasmania as it wasn't Launceston which is finished. Now they're back to doing in. Melvin was Melvin originally and they went to the University of Tasmania announced back to Melbourne. Different price of Melvin. So to two years of that I think. Now it's because we did some university courses in there as well say we did some competing and Meteorology University courses. I think nance dance to about fifteen months of training in Melbourne. And then you go out and do final field training. Say you trying to a stand in the way you understand all the BICYC- rules and then he put out the final field training which generally distaste is rich. Melman and You D. it's generally tends to be about. I would say probably four to six months a funnel field Chinese comes to the procedure in Brisbane. As you come to Brisbane get us on. I said the or great. And then you D simulator training for that group and then you do on the job. Training which is generally about eight wakes well about probably four to six months final field training. Gosh I didn't realize it took years of training to finish Africa of. That's quite a lot. It's you mentioned that you do some simulated training for pilots when they doing similar to training the practicing Potential emergency situations or things that could with aircraft like engine flameouts and things and when when head pilots on the podcast before they've talked about this what is seemingly a session involved for an air traffic control so simulated stations do something similar with the unusual scenarios. Said we generally build them to whatever seating al particular focus at the time not policy Generally like deal with some sort of emergency or unusual activity like as you asking earlier about say apart doesn't respond to clearance doesn't mean unusual and then head off towards another aircraft and then heavily deal with that Samaria Out of scenarios they might into control a spice without a clearance or tracks that we now about so. It didn't mention this before but annoy all right. Our screen it's Especially Square displacement round as square display and my tracks that I'm dealing with green and transit again to a thick me blue and then we have trucks aren't going to affect me which are black so all the tracks it on. Kenilworth thick me so the of despite all the tracks from the right after eight. Obviously and there's uncoupled tracks so by coupled track our main there's information that we have about them which displays the call sign and all those other pieces of information and then there's uncoupled tracks which are just a generic much squawks their record score. One two zero zero two four digit code when the control the spice among counter inter so all those tracks. Now we'll just get this that code and it's basic altitude. Nothing else say all those checks black to us so occasionally we have those tracks because we're not really looking for black tracks we in the simulator. We tend to put them into scenario way. They might conflict with a track of house and we also have worked for a short term conflict alert and that will go off and how we deal with that scenario we have set down procedures on how we deal with it if anyone is thinking about becoming an HIV controller. What what qualities do you think makes a good air traffic control? And do you have any tips for anyone who's interested in a career in pre covert on? Say You could probably come out and try and see what it's like at the center of but that's not available anymore. It's something that can be stressful at different times You do have to have certain personality. You have to admit your mistakes and John Fixing because no one else is going to fix them. Say you don't want to begin meager but you want to enough confidence that you can beck yourself to do the job to do to apply you just go onto services. Australia that I have. I think they are actually recruiting at the moment. Or they certainly were several weeks ago But generally recruit is always some sort of recruitment going on and Selma tests. That you have to do this aptitude testing that you have today. There's on online. It's online so you can just apply and try to test if you want to try the tests and then he's catcher. I think it's priceless. That if you get to testing if you want to do it's it's an interesting job. It's very deacon. Sometimes you get to travel ever told you don't get to travel is opportunities in different places around straight if you WANNA. If he wants to travel you do have to work shift work. It's a twenty four. Seven job is good. Leave available some of the time. But obviously you won't get leave all the time that you want it. But none of some benefits to waking she put and there's say the Dan saw working on not became not shifts out on night shift circa the not shifts winners and losers scenarios. Okay in Robinson. Thank you so much joining me on the AF. Hundred podcast or best. Thank he finally for this episode. You may have seen that. Qantas has recently been selling used by cards. From its retired. Boeing seven four seven fleet. Perhaps your even one of the lucky people that managed to buy one Qantas put the used Galley Carts on sale last week and they sold out in just hours. Each Kat has flown average of fifteen million kilometres. In Service on the Boeing seven. Four seven they came with a price tag of nine hundred and forty seven dollars. Seventy for half black hot or one thousand four hundred seventy four dollars seventy for a Fubo cock but I did also come fully stocked. The half Barkat for example contained mini bottles of white wine forty mini bottles of red wine and a bottle of champagne to business class. Any Kits Sheridan throw from first class and to his of quantities. Class Pajamas. The BAWKU also he comes with a lovely brayshaw has some instructions on how to use the car but a Qantas flight attendant has written an unofficial and I would say much more interesting guide to ensuring that we have a genuine Qantas Barkat experience. If you're one of the lucky few that was able to buy one the stirling frequent flyer member mile high club who is a Qantas flight attendant pice to the guide on AF? And it's almost liked post of the past month. I must admit that I had a pretty good off. I want to share with you mile. High Clubs Post now. This is what it said now. Firstly Mile High Club says how to tell if your Qantas Barkat is genuine or firstly the brakes. Probably don't work and when you stop it will cape on moving tubs will do one of the following though in and won't come out or they will go in and then claps to the bottom with any wait on them whatsoever. There should be remains of a photo sticker. And if you're really lucky the tag that reports it's forty but somehow manages to get back into the network and Mile High Com. Says how to use your car if you want to use it like a real. Qantas flight attendant. If you purchased a full-sized caught you must use to people to move it. Put items that you use the most in the least convenient location and to really add to the experience as the door to access the rea- contents instead pull everything out to get it then silently when you realize it was actually in the front all alone to ensure the security of your car used bobbed wire and then easy obey hands to remove it and kiss at the end that these things are hard to remove to upgrade your heart to business class just right leaning over it. Cuts cannot be upgraded. I though because cats do not into the first class Kevin when leaving your car in short hit as many items in your house as possible and don't close the door that instead slam it shot and make as much noise as possible to staving everyone around. You think when you realize what you thankful that post. I really enjoyed that. And there's an article linked in the episode nights called how to Ezio your buck hot Way You'll find that post and linked to the original threat if he'd like to have a read and they have been quite a few frequent flyer members who have now received a Buckholtz and a lot of them posted pictures of the suggestions on how to use them in that threat and one memory in particular has quite impressive. Home Baugh setup. Well let's it full these episode of AF on air. Thanks to my guest in Robinson and thank you so much for listening for more information about anything discussed in today's episode. Check out the episode notes. We also find a link to the discussion thread. And you welcome to discuss. The episode provide feedback suggestions. Asked me a question for inclusion in a future episode? If you enjoyed this podcast I'd really appreciate if you take just a moment to rate and review us on Apple podcasts. And a quick shout out and thank you to mall. Sydney here recently. 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