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04:34 min | Last month

"bari weiss" Discussed on The Fifth Column

"Is like the one that is like so rich to me lately is like when they were trying to go after. Alison Roman for shopping at the hotties in using spices. Like Horita was her why not? You didn't see this. Hold on standby wait. This was like a real humid. People wasn't just shopping centers. Everyone in the neighborhood shops if we if you live when you shop holidays because it's a how does in sunset park now this is and it's even open depend. Yes Ye- oh yeah let's go. Yeah I'M GONNA go. Yeah exactly drove by today since I was in sunset park today with the car. It's all in here. This was the article that was shared by like cultural critic. Set Your in the New Yorker and all the stuff and I just read the sub head no studio awakening the name of this piece on eater in this the age of the Global Pantry the global pantry global pandemic in this the age of the global pantry ingredients like Turmeric Tahini. And I'm going to mispronounce Gautier. John is that right. Maybe have finally shaken off their hitherto exotic status. Don't say hitherto say exotic status you asshole but it's white cooking personalities like Alison Roman and many of the bond petite test kitchen stars who had viral success using them. Are You fucking kidding me? Why Eighty why are you using those? How did appropriate are spices? Oh my God so Michael. Just scroll down to the paragraph as the culinary has become a marker and just read like a section of that or the whole one. That is really crazy that piece happened. I don't know you do. I think I that cloudflare kicked you future. Did you say that. Come through the subway. Yeah Moynihan just read the sub so he can just pick it up from there. Well I can pick it up really apply all the by all our no no. It's absolute nonsense. Not only is it. Nonsense sort of the concept of the entire piece. But it's written in that really bad academic style which is Shitty postmodernism but like filtered through eater as the culinary has become a marker of contemporary culture occupying much of the space much monopolist monopolized by music fashion food media and social media. Have fused to create a supercharged forum of aspirational desire within this mode of desire however idea of using new hitherto exotic ingredients only seems to become aspirational when those ingredients appear in the pages of prominent tastes making magazines perhaps more relevantly on instagram or espoused by white taste makers that is fucking that era. Go of Bullshit in by the way you could do that and seven. Where's Barry Weiss was editor of The Wall Street Journal in the economy of words? That women was very good at nine hundred twenty. Th We gave she could get ed complicated concept down to nine hundred in nineteen that I presented in one thousand nine hundred. That sentence should have been white. People are using spices that they didn't know about these Hadi's racing. They got address it at all. All the jargon. Why is the white people? Do using the spices sentenced dad. The white people use the spices. Go back to the right. I want you to do yourself a favor Stoke your rage at some point. Go put that you are l. into twitter and see the Joe Known Nevada. Well we've talked for two hours. And we've we've gotten into Karen's in Aaron's and mostly Karen's and there's the Cold War with China that I know Camille wanted to talk like have berry slides into the host role..

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"bari weiss" Discussed on The Fifth Column

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02:20 min | Last month

"bari weiss" Discussed on The Fifth Column

"Poor behavior good behavior by government. It's just that they want to be the ones with the club. You do have an analysis. Actually they they believe people who are concerned about. They believed that people who are concerned about censorship or freedom of speech context like this or even Who have any sort of civil liberties concerns related to the pandemic and the sort of restrictions the government might be placing on people have a a disastrous and immature freedom fetish? That they think that the government is more interested in them than it actually is that they have this fear of tyranny rising when we all know that it's not going to happen and they're concerned for what they call freedom and this is b b voicing someone else's opinion here is one getting killed with respect to the pandemic and to destroying democracy with respect to either the various malevolent actors who are leveraging social media to pollute our society or the malevolent actors censoring particular kinds of speech online unless we empower some entity to stop them from doing it And I I don't think people imagine that they could be wrong about this that the government could do bad things because they they perceive that you know the moral arc is bending towards justice injustices what they've concluded it is And therefore they have nothing to be concerned about. They just need to use power or guests. So I don't know lately to meet the word for this. Like internal contradictions of the leftist worldview clashing against each other in just such an incredible waste. It's like with racism construct and yet racist the only thing that matters big tickets evil and yet a we. WanNa do is give big tech more power white people shouldn't gentrify neighborhoods and yet white people that fled those neighborhoods during the pandemic are Bro. It's like which one is. There's a calm in that Barry. Yeah now there's I can give you nine more examples to if you're looking for material my.

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"bari weiss" Discussed on The Fifth Column

The Fifth Column

06:59 min | Last month

"bari weiss" Discussed on The Fifth Column

"Ban in picked it out. And I'm like that's holding. Nellie BOSE'S LESBIAN TOMMY. Chong was a painting the side like a half moon mission. I Try Holy Shit her in a very fun time you guys should be back in Massachusetts. That was a that was the good place to be right. Why are you back in the Senate? Now York and then we're like maybe maybe going to mask up into California mask on San Francisco right right or maybe we can. I mean if you bought a house in invited us. I'm trying it takes a while. Everyone's fucking slow unbelievable. They WANNA make money they should. You're telling me that the entire public conversation around twitter is based on eroneous understanding of the section to thirty and holly Ted Cruz are just capitalizing on that direction and And also that there is increasingly in our politics on the right and left in this country and abroad A sense of treating politics not as something to inaudible the right of the individual regardless of whether where he or she comes from but to protect our side and punish our enemies. It's it's explicit the whole like new conservative. Move which saw Sohrab Rummy. Whenever I can't do it can't do it. I can't do it so I can't do middle sense now. Not like it's that. That was the his fight with David. French is like yeah. But we'RE GONNA win. When are we going to fight? They've French is like you know what and this is. You know go google it kids but like I have been fighting rights-based Legal arguments to make sure that a mostly conservatives Christians in this country can Have their space to express themselves freely without the state telling them that they can't for a long time and I also on college campuses He was a part of fire the foundation for individual rights in education for a long time. I done all these things and like Sohrab Finning And there's this whole pent-up frustration on the populist right. And even lopping frankly and we've talked about this a bit with the Adrian Ver- Mules of the world like they have these fantasies about using power like a club. And it's really curious to see the extent to which people who indulge in such fantasies. Live in places like New York City. Like what do you think is going to happen when you reduce the amount of constraints on government power in the city that you actually live is work out for you Mr Conservative? I kinda thing to build a blasios. Not Going to be the guarantor of your rights in a very particularly effective way. I and and this is. This is part of it. There's a sense of there's a populist anti media sense in general antitax sense in general and it always wins. Because the media's always bad against people there's a horseshoe area being a anti-media that we've seen for many decades prior you know like Ralph Nader would talk about or a Bernie Sanders to talk about the media in ways. That are pretty similar to what trump bites. There's just sort of differences on the margins. Well now those ideas those those concepts which previously were fringe are now becoming more and more mainstream and you know senators. Don't act and we were talking earlier about senators having power. I kind of dispute that they don't really do anything there isn't legislation the Senate Majority Leader has power. Maybe the minority leader does. The speaker of the House has power and but most members of Congress don't do anything ever they just get elected in the APP. They don't pass bills they don't do anything So what do you do if you're Josh? Holly you want to be the person who has talked about when we talk about post trumpism and you will do it by going quickest to indulging in the sheep Jack Anti media sentiments AMT Anti Tech sentiment. And it doesn't matter that you get the facts wrong along the way since. What does that matter? Have we seen? Who is the President United States? I mean regardless of whether we think that the you know the twitter is being self evidently ridiculous and elevating fact. Checking some kind of clarity which it absolutely isn't in most places in the journalism ecosphere the talked about their back. Checking with a couple of notable exceptions are crap or at least are really self-indulgence. We're just care about the facts. Like listening to fucking Andrew Cuomo at every one of his press conferences about data. Fuck you regardless of any of that. They are going into this. Knowing which way the wind is blowing it is blowing in this direction. They don't care that their facts are wrong about it and so they're going to use populous sentiment to try to achieve and consolidate power. That's IT and so the question for the rest of us is how much are we going to indulge ourselves and how much we're going to pay attention to the things that allowed us to create all of this wealth and conversation. Yes the vast majority of which is super annoying at all times just like ninety nine percent of all tapes that your friends bands gave you in college back when there college tapes. A nine thousand eight hundred sucked right. Ninety percent of everything is terrible. Ninety percent of social media is also terrible. But that doesn't mean that we should change the law to expose people to the government having more prosecutorial ability to punish people. They don't like I one final thing on the trump fact checking is that I think twitter is making a huge mistake here for a couple of reasons but the most important one is that that you a number of people in their own universe people. They know friends of theirs. Blue checkmark say you really have to put the true facts next to Donald Trump's conspiracy theory about Joe Scarborough killing a woman? No you don't and the reason you down because it's so self-evidently stupid and crazy that we don't have to fact check those things because if you look at the cost benefit here. Essentially twitter is going out to do this to other public. Figures typically right so sort of member of parliament from henley-on-thames which used to be Boris Johnson. Saying they I've said something about some of the issue and it is wrong. I mean this is essentially. What politicians do they lie to constantly? And.

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"bari weiss" Discussed on The Fifth Column

The Fifth Column

05:24 min | Last month

"bari weiss" Discussed on The Fifth Column

"There's no one more powerful in America. These companies are run by a handful of individuals. Making THE DECISIONS. I totally agree. More powerful than a senator. The crowd learn i. I actually think no the only thing that I thought was weird about. It was that they target the if he was doing matt. Deliver die thing was applied to the Wall Street Journal. The New York Times even Breitbart or something. I would say okay. But it's usually some website with four mouth breathing. Nazis face tattoos. No they're really not influencing anybody but the other knuckle draggers down the corner. So I think the inflated sense of importance was where they apply it because they totally confident flooding at that going back to the Ted Cruz. Thing of saying what did he say? Big Is the single biggest threat facing our democracy. Yeah I think. That's it's patently absurd. I don't disagree with the sentiment that they are the most powerful people in the country. I don't think that any tech EXEC is generally more powerful than a senator. Senator is actually have the force of law. They have guns people to do things. Okay could force people to do things tech. Ceo's like Mark Zuckerberg facebook algorithm people dislike it. People logoff. I'm not compelled to use facebook. I'm not compelled to use twitter. Use them because I are weird I could be. I have any of Super Quilliam friends. That's not ten minutes nearly. That's not nearly the same thing as a law being passed that requires you to do something or not and I think one senator needs a lot of other senators to ruin your life okay tech. Ceo on his own can do. Can't they have shareholders. No they can't? That's not how that works. That's not how that works. They have shareholders. They have employee's revolt if they do certain things and they customers customers Kamerhe Rouge. I mean they could. They have shareholders. They have employees. Generally speaking there is a consensus about taking this kind of action. A place like twitter as you. Just establish Mark Zuckerberg may want to do plenty of things. What he actually can do is limited and constrained in various important ways as a senator. But again no matter. What Mark Zuckerberg decides to do Mark Zuckerberg? Ain't got guns. It can't force people to do things right and in competitiveness can come and eat his lunch. Any has many competitors weather. We acknowledge it or not question back. Magen not not my space but twitter is a facebook competitive friends. Straight Lincoln is increasingly more of a facebook facebook competitor. And at some point yes someone else could arise and could compete with facebook but facebook. There is so powerful that they got out of the news business because it became politically inconvenient for them. They're so power. They've had to capitulate with respect to the way that they talk about like election interference and concede a point that I think is patently. Ridiculous that they somehow influenced the outcome of the election with the Russian noggins fifty thousand dollars on facebook ads. It is absolutely absurd but they are powerless. Interestingly the do anything about the pervasiveness of this nonsense narrative and instead had to concede the point operators if it's the truth and have transformed their business to the point where they say maybe we should stop doing political ads altogether. Who has the power in that relationship where we so facebook investment I think is the wrong example? We talked about this a couple of weeks ago and we were talking about two guys that were doctors from Bakersfield California and. I think both Camille and I disagreed with these guys and said it. Just don't make a lot of sense. The wrong on the Science for X Y and Z reason their doctors. We're not but we're smarter than them. So we were right and they weren't take enough. You've taken off Youtube Youtube. Of course being like it's not it's own company obviously article in this part of Google and I don't think there's going to be a shareholder revolt because of the innocence of Muslims video. You remember that thing. That kind of supposedly precipitated the whole. Benghazi affair didn't but that these two guys in Bakersfield when you start doing those things one at a time you're not gonna get a shareholder revolt. It hasn't happened yet. I can't imagine anyone saying a damn thing about the four five examples that I can think of. That are actually quite chilling. What when when Dr Jack Very nearly just got fired at twitter worth mentioning? Well that's more. Because he's like a complete Wu loving back from a silent retreat with fucking nose ring. I'm just saying you should not be. You should not be the CEO of Fucking compooter company at this point much less twitter. I do all his tricks I got at now. They got to be one in a relationship because the other ones shaking their heads like what the fuck she's here and she's like hanging upside.

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"bari weiss" Discussed on The Fifth Column

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06:33 min | Last month

"bari weiss" Discussed on The Fifth Column

"Them? We don't tweet concentrating here. Well I don't know if we I don't know if you'll be able to tweet anymore. We we need to talk about this because there are some concern amongst amongst the political leadership of this country. Thank you very much Particularly the president of the United States is very angry at twitter and social media giants general over the last couple of days. The president was tweeting. Things he tweeted something about mail in ballots which apparently he does not like because there is no way zero with an exclamation point. percent chance that mail-in ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent. And this tweet. About mail-in ballots received some unusual treatment for twitter. They essentially instituted some kind of new fact check bug which appears underneath the president's tweet and says get the facts about mail in balloting click. Said bug you will be taken to a litany of articles one which comes from the hated the president standpoint CNN among other publications all telling you that what the president said is a lie. president is outraged by this and today there is talk of there being some executive order draft draft being drafted. Do not know the details about what's in this executive order but the president has pledged to take action is going to put a stop to social media. Companies essentially not giving sufficient voice to conservative publications as he sees in God and he also refers to this bug as an interference in the election. It is worth mentioning that just this evening. I did notice. We talked about Ice Cube earlier. And what he was saying about the police involved death. That's taken place earlier this week. Ice Cube posted a photo that has been making the rounds of the officer. Who was kneeling on? Georgia's neck and who killed him next to another picture of a man Mary wearing a hat that says make white make whites great again It is the case that people are suggesting that these are the same people. That's not the same people and what's interesting is. Twitter is also flagged Ice Cubes Post and now underneath. His Post says manipulated media. And if you do you will actually get details about how this photo is. Super Fun fake because it is that is not actually. The COP who was involved in that particular arrests. It's just some asshole who has a facebook page. Who kind of looks like him. Who Does in fact appear to have a make whites great again hat which I don't know what that means exactly at any rate here. I think it's a reference what's at stake in the fact check right. Is His twitter. Moving away from being wooded is always claimed his been there for sort of protecting itself from accusations of libel and obligations all sorts of things that publishers have in is it becoming a publisher by Sha rating and commenting on its users statements and by the way of all the things to fact check trump on that one. He actually has an argument for like. It's a weird to me. That was weird to choose that rather than like the cold blooded psycho Joe Scarborough who know that actually seemly a all into a fact check over the past forty eight hours. Why not? But it's because of that but it's because of that that you have this right. Yeah may be coming next. So what do you guys like? This is something where I feel like you confident that the three people speaking to have much stronger viewpoints than may twitter helpless Scher or platform section. Two thirty in the was the Telecommunications Act Nineteen ninety-six Nas to nursing nerdy start section two-thirty. Want to learn about the. It's like the shit. It's what people are. No I'm I'm not that guy like Camille and Michael. Know more about this. But they're like busy swallowing in their their drinks delicious drank. But that's what people are going after this is just to tonight. We're recording this on Wednesday so when you hear it next Tuesday. You should know that it's Wednesday trump's supposed to do the Executive Order. Thursday's the latest. It's something to do with social media so Ted Cruz who I want to give a shout out to my own political judgment when I first saw him for the first time I want to say it's like two thousand eight at some You Know Damn Conservative freedomworks type of club for growth type of events in in Orange County. California people are like. Oh this Guy Ted Cruz watch him. He's great and it was him and I think Mike Lee and Mike. Leo's like a pretty good. Ted Cruz is like Oh my 'cause Charlatan faulk tonight. Big Tech is the single biggest threat facing our democracy. Yes that's obviously true. Ted grits we know in two thousand Sixteen Social Media. Companies had an outsized role in influencing our presidential election. Day He did that does not know what he sounds like there. With another presidential election months away we need to take action now to curtail that influence. He's been the biggest person him Josh Halley. On the right to go after section two thirty in the in the Telecommunications Act Ninety six what that is and that's what people talk about the difference between platform and publisher That was not spelled out at didn't come up in that section to section to thirty basically says that the comments on Vice News and New York Times and free think and reason and the fifth column for that matter and John. Whatever on facebook all those comments we are not legally liable for. That's basically what it is. The user generated content on those platforms. On the individual companies that hosted or facilitated themselves legally liable. They are legally liable for whatever fact. Check to.

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06:45 min | Last month

"bari weiss" Discussed on The Fifth Column

"Of people. Well I think one one one. That's what I was well. Before he takes he takes another drink. The spotify of drink the thing about the question that you're asking barriers that we can't ignore the fact that Rogin just got one hundred million dollars spotify deal and it's a publicly traded company spotify an institution. They're willing to take this gamble. They didn't get invented yesterday. They've been around since two thousand six. Rogin created his own platform but he was gobbled up by a massive company that is looking to attract an audience and they were willing to take hers. They fifteen years. He made himself a hundred million dollar man. We don't we don't know how many offers he turned down in the interim to bring his show places it is certainly the truth that there aren't a lot of Rogan's on the landscape but he is not completely alone. There's gentleman on. Hbo That has a show that is oftentimes somewhat heterodox and he's typed air but he turned while he was on. Hbo He became Yes because he was he was politically incorrect before he used to say some daring. That was different that make fun of that show for being the least politically incorrect show on and then and then they started fighting. You know that was the politically stopped to know that was politically incorrect. The one that was on. Abc or CBS. But Yeah No. I still think it's absolutely true that I mean it's not about Rogan. It's about people because what you do and I've mentioned this before. Is that when another publisher hits with Harry Potter? You try to find your around. You try to find lemony snick it. Then nobody's doing that. No one's doing their own versions of Joe Rogan in saying. Oh let's expand with this guy who's kind of Rogan like. But you know he's not the same thing but you know how many Matt knows. How many bands that looked and sounded like the Beatles from nine hundred sixty three hundred sixty five the knickerbockers great single called lies by the way? That sounds exactly like a beautiful but yeah nobody was doing that. Nobody was doing that. Because it's like just boggles the mind. The number of these big media organizations that have a lot of capital behind them venture capital. They have rich guys that have started them. Funded them whatever did are going. After the smaller sliver of the population remember Mike Dot com literally. Nine is that was stuff that was written by sub literate just from college in the most insane versions of the worst editorials in the college newspaper for a huge audience with venture capital behind it. But you got be fucking kidding me. No one out there things like this. No one cares about it and if they do that. I don't want to read about the ship. They already believe it's challenging in it. It's not like reading like Francois. If you're a when you were like in the nineteen seventies or jean-francois reveal like God is incredible way of looking. It's not it's just like there's white supremacy and everybody's socks and you know this you know the same narratives that you get all the time learning anything that somebody saw film but it used to be like that was the easiest thing to right right. Ex- doesn't have why representation ex should have written the movie that I wanted them to write but didn't write the one that I wanted them to write. So therefore I've written a fucking story about it. It's not a Goddamn Story. That's something you annoy your friends with until they tell you to shut up. It's not something that you actually write down in submit to an editor in venture capitalists back and pay for in you know what all those places to borrow a phrase from the British went tits up. They don't do well. No one wants that garbage. You can feel it. Lefty woke you go broke. I've just heard that expression last week but I think it's right. I don't know that there's a lot of successful locations are there. They're still polishing David famous before that right that. That's that's the real question because you know tacking to the left is winning a lot of readers for a lot of mainstream public. Hasn't technically to the left is fine. I think a lot of lefty stuff is great. I'm interested I want in the time of Donald trump like lefty perspectives. On this. I want a time. When there is populism of left and right and Bernie Sanders is doing great. No I wanna read that not. That's not about like partisan talking about the thing we are talking about which is precedence story. There ain't crazy people. Yeah that's where I think I don't think Berry that that they're gaining huge new readerships. I think Salon Dot Com was more successful in one thousand nine hundred eight. When David Horowitz was a columnist Camille pompous? Yeah Columnists And when their founding editors who were San Francisco lefties but that would they David Talbot Yeah all these guys who are who are interesting Guys and gals again gals who are seen thinkers wanted to set themselves apart from the boring political orthodoxies of the May area of of the mid nineteen nineties. You know and they. They were pretty successful. Granted that weren't a lot of online magazines back in one thousand nine hundred six and seven but now they have an IPO. Oh they had a term of art as a Dutch right so is a way of saying like. Oh anyone can join this. Ipo You don't have stockbroker or actually any money at Yeah they they're always going to just like just like Dick. Cheney was going to you know Or done show was going to turn the corner in six months in Iraq. There are always the next quarter is going to be their first profitable quarter but they went nine just they went from being a place and I wrote for them. Fifteen years ago on occasion they went from a place. Where if you saw something particularly when they were covering parties or ideologies. That weren't their own. Or what you associated with use. Aol What have what they're going to say about mean Jake. Tapper was a salon DOT COM correspondent. A lot of people who had some Quality might bitch about some some individual things that they've done but some good thinkers and writers worked there and also you didn't know where they were going to Land Dan. Savage was writing for the For a while and you went from there to now everything you've seen for the last eight years or so has just been all woke. It's really rare when you when you get to arrive at a.

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06:25 min | Last month

"bari weiss" Discussed on The Fifth Column

"How long did it take for the new republic to go from being edited by a Soviet agent? My I think it was Michael Straight in the forties and then to becoming this even the new republic type liberal publication then being taken over by people who worked to Gawker or something. It's a very very long time. And it doesn't happen quickly so getting institutions like a back. I shouldn't say back. I think that's wrong because I think a lot of those magazines and do great great work but I think they could do a lot better and I think they limit the work. Some really really good stuff. I'm excited for instance to to to read the Lionel Shriver Profile Air Levy wrote it. And she's somebody who's lefty she's crying she's she's like a leftist feminist and a great writer. I don't give a shit about her politics. I give a shit about about the profile. If it's good and I don't care like if she was a right wing or left I just don't care but it's it is you do measure it that way these days because it's always going to be like here we go the number times. I say that readings here we go going to be that digression into like telling the readers that you're a good person and that you don't believe that you you hit your privilege. Whatever it is but you know these publications can. They're not GONNA get out of this anytime soon because the feeders these publications with the institutions that have to change too. I mean they're all people coming from Yale and these are places. Where is the last person at is still alive at Harvard? I know he's still alive. Stephen and Abigail Thurnstrum. I think both of them we we have like there's like root wife. There's really wanted like in. It's not even you know. I remember in college for a minute. I was like I think I'm a conservative and I realized I wasn't a conservative. I just wasn't one of them. I just thought that you had to be a conservative and I was so happy to find out that I wasn't because I was like I don't care about anything wrong back. I'm seventy years old back then like to be a conservative was a little more socially conservative than I wanted it to be and I was not acting in a conservative manner. My own life conservative. Now ask that's your question in an optimistic. I'm eternally optimistic about a media development because of long histories of of personal and professional failure but It's to say that. Yes there's going to be more Rogan's yes can be more you know Jesse single and Katie Herzog. Starting whatever the hell of they're gonNA do it's GonNa be Great. There's going to be all these and they're already is. Is your article made clear this all all this sort of individualized niche that can be made to pay but there is also going to be there has to be new institutions there has to be new media institutions new collectives of people who share that ethic and. That ethic isn't politics. The ethic is much more I D G af that what the kids say you. Just don't give a fuck about anything that you want to be able to talk with people regardless of where where you're coming from and you're not going to be cowed by this. You're going to actively push back against whatever walls are closing in and there's an attraction there and Michael is pointed out for a long time specifically with Rogan. On on this podcast in a bunch of different settings like it's amazing to see how few people in media `gate-keeping a rolls have at hough. He's doing something that's interesting wonder what that is wonder if we could just like experiment with that even at three o'clock in the morning if it's a TV show or some little like side column at our paper this it doesn't happen right. It just doesn't reason for that. Disagreeable troublemakers are not hired by. Or if they are cannot last inside of institution because the people at the death next you will not tolerate especially especially now thirty minutes of any episode. He would say ever in literally pick any thirty minutes there would be something that would get him a call from the HR department at any of the places. We weren't like it's just and it's not it's not worth it and when I worked at the La Times it gave me an. I tried hard to change the opinion section where I was to make just like cosmetic. Let's bring the the page from the Twentieth Century of the twenty first century on various things. Can we run letters to the editor online? That are extra than the ones that went into like seriously. That was an eighteen month so these institutions many of which were a monopolies made monopoly like profits of like twenty percent of profit margins are more for decades. Newark's a little bit different because it actually as a competitive newspaper market but even so people made a lot of money They the when you make a lot of money and or you build up a lot of prestige. Whatever your capital is doing it this way regardless of how that amount of money is is shrinking and being challenged which it certainly is almost everywhere. There's a mindset in the mindset is totally one of literally `gate-keeping like we are the guardians of the way that things should be and you can't change that mindset from within you can change some margins you can make this a publication more vibrant and interesting for a while and maybe this section of a publication. I'm not a defeatist about this. But if you want like just to have a place where it's normal for people to be weird and funny and to right at their own conclusions and you don't know exactly where they're going to get where they are going to get in that process. You have to start from scratch right now. And what is striking about? The media landscape right now is that there hasn't yet this week yet. Bend the creation of that space. I have the strong from Nisshin that there will be sooner rather than later. And it's going to have an amount of success that is going to exceed the imaginations of a lot of people. Well I think one one one. That's what I was well. Before he takes he.

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06:08 min | Last month

"bari weiss" Discussed on The Fifth Column

"All have failed. Is the California's really the problem? California by the Connecticut. You the national like. They've all ron his been law. Since I was a student in college who can I can? I just make one point this just going back they. You was a perfect example. This clan parenthood pushing out. I believe her name is Leeann and was a perfect example of this. It's over and over and over again. And would I have to end with doing the Rogan story? Hunting AAs myself as like what is driving the fear. The fear that me and winning him feel. Let's say being inside of these institutions is. We're still inside of that. We are playing a kind of the rebel end of it. We want to maintain or institutional standing. That's really what steak 'cause I don't actually think you're truly scared of being canceled with scared of is losing the institutional member in Good Standing Union card central. I'm and I'm also along with mine along with You know and the result you're likely to you. Don't actually win win. A lot of those people don't but there's a certain amount of gas lighting that goes on and just kind of subterranean way. It's not deliberate and the way that people do that to just make you feel like you're gone totally mad but I used to sit there and think of myself as I don't not only do. I not have any of US thinker crazy or weird or out of step with the average American. I think maybe the average American doesn't even doesn't think about some of the views that I hold and maybe they would hold them if they cared about know stuff that was probably resolved during the Cold War. But I don't I just don't believe that I have any views that are reactionary. That are out of the mainstream that are weird but like I am being governed job and to talk about in general in the culture in journalism on twitter and the rest of it by people who have opinions that one percent of the population. Five percent of the population most holds in the entire lives are to tell me that I shouldn't be allowed into polite society. 'cause I don't hold views. That should be allowed in Polite Society. Despite the fact that society shares those views of me and not with them. And it's very very strange thing so they may at the gas lighting. That happens is like wait. Do I have these horrible horrible I but if you are the skunk in the cafeteria or whatever and you're surrounded every single day by people that genuinely believe you are retrograde or whatever you start to like infects you. And that's who is really. I find like one of the things. That's so important is to is to find ways to guard against that infection than kind of like self doubt that forces so powerful that you do the sense one not you. One does the censorship for them. Because you know what the consequences are. So it's like why would I write an op? Ed that touches I duNno trends professional transgender athletes. Like you think to yourself. Preemptively is on the hill. I WanNa die on and then you kind of leader yourself to safer ground. And that's just terrible for the culture was there is e berry appeared. I think in a Oblique. Way And the best. Snl sketch of the past five years. The dinner party kind of thing bringing up. Whoa WHOA WHOA. That is way beyond the journalism class. Utah to normal people and I made a joke about this in the Patriot on the other day. When I said you know I once did a fake accent that was like you know co from taxi had it was not a real accent in the person I was with was like. Hey Buddy and I'm like no no. It's not country. Get Mad at it because I'm not making fun of a real a group of people. It could be Canadian. And they're like WHOA. Whoa because it's just the instinct to go is so strong say wait. I've been trained in this way. Because let's not court controversy in that is not just the thing that journalists do. It is really. It's it's set up that way too and there's a reason when somebody realized too. Magin that day when somebody realized that toxicity of those charges in what they could do for you in a moment when you wanted to win an argument or wanted to pin your opponent against the wall you know in the in the rambles wants to call the cops and she wants to tell the cops these blacks. She wants to do that. Because that's the highest card. She knows how to play. Just a fuck with somebody because she wants to win in that instinct being applied to journalism and being applied to public life in general is like. I'M GONNA CHARGING HIM. I'm going to drop it on them. And he doesn't matter if it's true closer true but you know what Google is going to be honeycomb forever with all these references to the debate in your name and the debate. Oh God you want to go work at that hedge fund like that lady got fired from after you journalism google. Your name is a bunch of debates about whether or not you're racist who that's a good one I'm Gonna I'm GonNa roll that grenade into the tent. You can't lose right. There's no sanction for making a false charge like this. Yeah so why not do it do it? And if it works it works great. The person you hate is destroyed. It doesn't fucking walk away and do something else. They'll get a macho. So seeking speaking for the wires matty can ask questions like can do you think that the you the institution let's just take whatever. Aclu New Yorker. Whatever can be reclaimed and fulfill kind of their mission again. The better road to basically go the Rogan route. Start Your own thing. You're free to be wild west. Yes I think this is a second. The second one is true. If you can change these institutions is going to take many many generations I mean..

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"bari weiss" Discussed on The Fifth Column

The Fifth Column

02:06 min | Last month

"bari weiss" Discussed on The Fifth Column

"Cycle. The people that make it casually ourselves. I'm Camile foster. I do things at free. Think we. Yeah we're still. We're still around that still a thing despite all of them the craziness the Kovic Mellstrom. I I think I mentioned that. I do a lot of important things. They're usually I do. I'm generally kind of vague about this but whatever I am delighted to be with you also joined by some remarkable human beings and I want to just say that I respect and admire them and buy them. I'm referring to Matt Welsh editor at large reason. Magazine a dear friend. Who's WHO's made it. I'm grateful for you being here. Michael Moynahan who is somewhere night. It's weird to always know where people are. You see them on camera and you can just let of those facts. Hello Michael Moynihan vicence. I told you at the beginning that it's absolutely none of your business. Then none of wow. I've made I made a couple of references to the indigo girls to Subaru outback. Two WNBA and you're like what are you talking good research? Welcome to ensure Camille headed in speaking of which and we do have a guest today. A guest who was here. Who is here to apologize for for besmirching? Her most favorite podcasts. She wants to apologize to us. And All of you realize ladies gentlemen of The New York Times columnist fan favorite friend of the fifth as they say. Berry not best friend of the fifth. Maybe one day ratings. Have a place in her heart queens. Eric Weinstein's hotel or red scare. Maybe one day. We'll be as good as day. I couldn't I couldn't. I couldn't remember what we believe you. We.

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"bari weiss" Discussed on Green Eggs and Dan

Green Eggs and Dan

04:29 min | 4 months ago

"bari weiss" Discussed on Green Eggs and Dan

"Oscar nausea recipes and hipster refine them. He had bacon wrapped. Matza balls. Oh I heard about that. Such a mind fuck and so beautiful and was delicious. He had beef braised beef ribs that he breezed Manischewitz. Which is genius. Because you want like Cherie Yeah I mean. That sounds he. It was such a cool restaurant it was so bumped before its time but Yeah I think I think Jewish food is having a little bit of a revival and I love. Well I think that like Russ dot like all that stuff love. But if someone's going to try and convince me that like Koogle is one of like or Chore Lint or like Great Moments in Jewish cuisine. I'm going to say go to a Persian or Mizrahi family for Chabad dinner. You guys do just does not compare and all that stuff. It's just like it's just peasant. Food do naming at its peasant. Food could be great but I don't know that stuff doesn't number on my stomach honestly of all the things that I eat pretty much everything. What's interesting is that I feel like what Jews have done. Wherever they have settled is take the local cuisine and Jewish at a little bit like in Persian cuisine there. There's differences between Persian Muslim cuisine and Persian Jewish cuisine like Persian Muslim. You use butter a lot and and we'll use olive oil because of the milk and meat thing we have our version of a Matzah ball soup called. Gundi like there's there's very like interesting regional Jewish foods. Yeah Persian cuisine. And it's funny in this world like in the world of cultural appropriation and all that it's very hard for people to pin down like Israeli food because there's so many different cultures there and you can literally just borrow from and by the way I think that's one place where cultural appropriation fucking kills. Me Is when it comes to food. Like you've hosted that's the fun thing about. It is like your borrowing from other cultures to to have fun with it like all these like I don't know they were like these stories of these like Taco places that like girls San Fran had a Taco place and they got shut down and they were like cooking amazing food apparently like that shit destroys me because I think food should be the one place where it's like every culture should be able to borrow from any other culture and that's what makes it fun will you just don't even have quit linked. That's if you go to the roots of this. It's like there wouldn't have ever be food without cultural mix. It absolutely wouldn't be anything. I was recently now that we're talking about Jewish food. I was at Mike Solomon Restaurant the harvest. Probably one of my favorite restaurants in and it was so special because Philadelphia. He's a Pittsburgh her and he faced time in to say hi to me and my parents are various friends. Were there which was really fun and it was just. It was so good. It was such a good. It was a deal. I think Michael Salamov is like the best. He's the best ambassador of the Jewish people literally about to say the best embassador for Jews. Living my could write for the New York Times worse out later. I really think so. I think I think that he the he's got like five restaurants now all in Philly King Philly but he's got like an Israeli one. He's got an Ashkenazi Bakery. That takes like old school. Like Ju like Bach like like Like Rugova and hipster fis the Mike the things that he does and then he's got like a soup kitchen where he liked donates the food soup that he makes he's constantly and he's and he's doing them. I don't remember her name. But a collaboration with this Palestinian chef. They're constantly working together. He's amazing and the restaurants amazing and I. I just really liked for me a lot of a reason. Sometimes that I like a restaurant is the energy. Catlin one of my go. To's on the upper west side is cafe Luxembourg and it's like the food is fine. It's good school very old school right. Yeah Yeah it's been there for a long time. I just love the atmosphere and I love the waiters and like like I live above this Greek restaurant. And it's like my cheers. I'm going in there like three or four times a week even to just get a glass of wine or Schmooze with the people and that often is what makes a restaurant absolutely absolutely and I think that's part of the reason why the spider pig faltered is because they they'd lost that vibe to it. Yes more from Berry in a minute but first. Mcdonald's is delicious but not kosher. Unless YOU'RE IN ISRAEL. The only country in the world that serves kosher. Mickey D's along with the obvious adjustments like not serving pork or meat and milk in the same dish they have some regional dishes that you can only get in the Holy Land like.

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"bari weiss" Discussed on Green Eggs and Dan

Green Eggs and Dan

10:21 min | 4 months ago

"bari weiss" Discussed on Green Eggs and Dan

"Know Doda. We fixed DOT COM to learn more. That's we fix money. Dot Com. See Website for details. Terms and conditions may apply back to Barry Weiss. So you and I went to a dinner party though while we were dating. Do you remember that Dinner Party? We went to a dance in Your House. Only got fouled. Aw Oh yes. That was the relevant Pie. I was thinking about spotted pig shop because they yes. This was an awesome dinner party. I you probably go to a lot more of these than I do. Know what it was like their these fun dinner parties that like powerful people throw where they just like have collections of interesting people. They bring together. And you have this kind of Ceylon and it was. It was like dude who plays chess with Kasporov credible and there was like all the Foutah cast. They're the only thing that's relevant fear. Listeners is that Leo you're the Star of Outta and visa car off. Who writes it with him? Also cool but Lee or who I think is like one of the sexiest man alive Was there his amazing Beautiful Wife. All of their beautiful there but he just was completely star. Struck freaking out. It was very cool and they hired a chef from US spotted pig which is closed. Now did you know that it closed? I just went there for the first time like three weeks ago. Well there was. There was a little bit of Metoo and I know that I know that I was actually once in a very lesbian party in the controversial room. They hold the rape room is funny because I used to I used to intern there as a in the summer. I was like a chef intern. We did. I was not me too. But I saw weirdness like I just saw weirdness from Mary Batali like he'd be there late night and just be gross. How gross just girls would come by who are fans of his and he would inevitably crab parts of them. You know. There was an article that you wrote. That was one of my favorites of yours about separating the art from the You know from the person artists from the criminal. Yeah exactly and you were talking about like well. The museums would be empty. If we judge the art based on who painted and stuff like that. I feel that way with Batali I have. I have such a tough time because he was so grossing and so many gross things but he was literally the person who got me into becoming a Foodie and into food. And it's it's problematic thing I mean I like. I know that he's he's not a part of his restaurants anymore and I love going there. I still go to babble once in a while but it's like it's one of those things of he's I don't know I don't know how to think about it but you can just I mean in the same way that you said I mean I don't know I don't i. I love his restaurants. I mean the food. That's the thing the food is fantastic. I honestly there been so many huge two stories that I've really followed that. The Mario Batali one was kind of a secondary one for me. I don't even remember the details of it. At this point it was pretty gross. On the scale of you know gross on certain. Yeah I believe there is the the the spider pig one is. That was. That was pretty gross. We can yes. I don't WanNa say yeah. He was he was he was getting. He was like asking for gross texts from his employees. It's just man. I loved that it was like I lived a block away from. It was my joint when I went there. It was really the other night. Yeah probably because it was closed. T- I know not three weeks. It was like two months ago. I think people saw the writing on the wall. Yeah it's a sad one good but it wasn't great would you? Would you order? I had the burger like their classic. Yeah Yeah so the Burger there. Can I tell you what I like? Oh sorry please. Then are the Burger is just a very plain burger. It's a it's just a like a beef hockey puck with Rockford. She's on top and the Bun actually is from black cat bakery. Which is fantastic. I love the stuff. I made that fucking Burger. Here's the shoestring fries. Did you like shoestring fries. There are two things that I'll say this shoestring string for. I love shoestring fry but these were so thin that they almost hurt to eat like it was almost the visual. It seemed like a meal built for a picture. It looks like a huge bird's nest. Yes yes which I love like. Look it when it came out. I was like laughing so delightful but then the actual experience of eating the FRY. It was like this isn't worth the calories and then the thing that really annoyed me although there were perfectly lovely I asked for. Manny's they did not have mayonnaise in the rest of the they will not give him enemies. Yeah me is bullshit. Like I'm sorry like I'm paying you. Twenty five dollars whatever. It is for a burger. Yeah you'RE A pub. Yeah Y'all have men as oh I know the have a little ailey not only have homemade man is. That's in the back. They have a bunch of they refuse to bring it and then this struck up. See the thing that was funding. Probably fucking hated. You know they did. It doesn't make sense that they know who you were. No you think I'm more known than I am just walked through the recording in the WNYC NPR offices. You're GONNA Stink No. You weren't getting probably I was. I'm sure that I was but I just got an is by one. We there was one One engineer in the Hallway. Who was like? Oh what are you interested in this? Well the thing I did like about that restaurant I of I love the atmosphere very likes hosie in would all but then we struck up a conversation. I was with one of my best friends. Benji with the table next to us and they were not happy with their meal they had ordered like the lamb chops or something and they said it was really bad and they were not like pretentious or snobby. I think that I think that anytime. There's a little bit of like there's two there's teams and there's people that aren't all in sync something goes awry and I think that that's what's happening there. It's impossible to work there without without addressing the elephant in the room and I think that it probably weighed on the chefs. You know whether they thought about it or not and I think that probably I don't even think April Bloomfield. Who's like the genius who open that place is even vested in it anymore? I did not know your you really know about this. I have a food podcast. I know press. I always forget that like you. You're kind of an expert in this thing. Okay here's what I mean. You have hobbies that you're really good at. I don't have hobbies so for me. I'm always astonished when someone like. This is not your profession talking about food. I mean I guess now it is part of it but cooking right like you've never made a dime from cooking. Just love it. Yeah I guess aside from being an Internet this restaurant I. It's just amazing to me like I'm always like when people are like what are your hobbies. I'm like I don't have anything I'm so boring. You earn your you enjoy food though you love your very fun to eat with because you're still abusive with your praise way. You're you're like that with the staff with that. We we went to. We went to house in L. A. Oh my God. That was so dan sing. Usually you only vive so let me. Yeah come on the only person who's more Georgia than me as Nelly I really. She's the most she's she's that's why you guys are. You guys are fantastic to eat with together. You're both Joie de vivre. We love it because it's like it's fun. I am your what what was the there was a term you use for me. I'm your third. I'm your love is something we both love you. We love you too. Thank if if we could have like a thank you day like yeah. I got the MAGS. Maga's gluten free. Oh I'm so sorry it's okay is that that's fake though. No it's real with her. I thought it was fake too. And I I. I'm just GonNa make me sound very like a like an abusive boyfriend but I had a controlling abusive boyfriend. I like what she's yeah. But this is GonNa really solidified. I seek out a gastroenterologist that 'cause she went to all these hippy doctors and L. A. And yes they're just saying that. I need to rub sage on my belly like no we're going to fuck an MD. And seek out my. I asked my buddy who's like a gastroenterologist at UCLA. He got me like the specialist. And I was like Maggie. You gotta go to the skies. Let's get a handle on this because it's just like she wasn't always gluten free and she. She hates it so she went. She did all the tests and stuff like no. No you've got CEAC disease. Okay so I was GonNa say unless you have seal Yak or you're an Ashkenazi Jew with like colitis and all that stuff by the gluten free thing is just another way of saying. I'm a woman who wants to be skinny and look hot. Oh Yeah Diet. Well that's the fatal flaw. Of Maggie's gluten freeness is that she is a skinny beautiful exactly so when you say. She's gluten free. I'm like no no I just as she her way of being like. Yeah I'm dying. I feel bad for her but I definitely have. It's it's an issue. I have a tough time with it. But I'm I've we are all in mourning for you damn Hashtag now Berry yes you you plant your flag on anti-semitism. Let's moment that is something that you were talking a lot do you think? Anti-semitism is acceptable when it comes to Jewish food because I think I am antisemitic when it comes to a lot I will say that. They're so two of my friends are in the business of sort of like reviving Ashkenazi Jewish food and trying to make it cool again They had this company. Gha Filter Ria. They're wonderful they will great cookbook. Oh tell me about it. It's cool. You should actually should have them on. Yeah no I actually one of my favorite cuisines hipster of fide old school Jewish food. You mean like lay Straw me. No yes but I like it. When like there's a restaurant l. a. That my buddy John Hall had and it was like the first restaurant that was like taking old school. Oscar nausea recipes and hipster refine them. He had bacon wrapped. Matza balls. Oh I heard about that. Such a mind fuck and so beautiful and was delicious. He had beef braised beef ribs that he breezed Manischewitz. Which is genius. Because you want like Cherie.

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"bari weiss" Discussed on Green Eggs and Dan

Green Eggs and Dan

04:21 min | 4 months ago

"bari weiss" Discussed on Green Eggs and Dan

"Part of our ability to do that. Means we need a big audience. It may not seem like it but rating and reviewing the show will help more people find us thanks. Chicken and golf on both vegetables roasted garlic campaign. Cool Keeney Beautiful Oud. Welcome to green eggs and Dan the show where I interview amazing humans with amazing minds but all I care about is what is in their fridge. You hear chewing in the background by my guess. Today's I'm so sorry. Who is someone whose work I respected immensely way before we became bff's and we dated to take Berry. Waste is an opinion writer for the New York Times and before that she was a book reviewer at the Wall Street Journal. She has become a bestselling author as well and her how to fight. Anti-semitism is just a fantastic light. Summer read take it to the beach or yourself some Rosie and read about why people hate the Jews so much. Barry wise welcome to the show and so happy to be here. I'm so excited to have you here although I am ashamed because we are doing a food podcast and I should've walked in with some kind of sheikh snack instead. I've walked in with McDonald's which anyone who knows me knows that it's actually my favorite thing in the world I i. It's a power move because we're also going to dinner in an hour. Appetite is insane right now and I don't know what's going on. Appetizer is chicken. Tenders four piece instead of the six piece which for me was like very restrained. Are you so it brings up an interesting question? Chicken tenders versus chicken mcnuggets. Not a question for me. It is tender but as they like to say you can get finger fucked when you are ordering chicken fingers off a menu blindly because at McDonald's I know it's going to be across the board quality if you're at a restaurant though and it's just chicken fingers on the menu you really don't know what you're GonNa get it could be like I like it like the more industrial the more consistent like crazy failures of fried breading. That's great I met a fancy place though and there's chicken fingers on the menu. I know it's going to be some like handmade bullshit gluten free. It's not gonNA deliver in the way of delivery for rain chicken. Make fingers at a fancy. Ching here's our favorite. Is that true? Is that your when like one very romantic thing? That happened to me with regards to chicken. Fingers is I had been on the road for like many days and I was getting to this hotel. La and my flight was like five hours delayed. I was getting there at two in the morning. I walked into the room and a few minutes later. They rang the doorbell to the room and a guy comes in and he delivered chicken fingers from my girlfriend and it just said I love you from Nellie and it was just chicken fingers and at that moment I was like this is more meaningful to me than most gifts because I felt so scene. Because she's so healthy so for her gifting me the thing that I really want. Which is the fritter all circumstances which you would never no not at all. No no you felt. Seeing you heard felt so wait so. We're going to go into your fridge before we talk more about your McDonald's because I no one's ever come into green eggs and Dan with McDonald's it's a power move. Had they come in with other caught me off guard no but people usually try to like impress me with their food? Things like oh. I just want to French laundry now. Barry White Alhelm. I've gone to a lot of the fancy restaurants. Yes they're fun. They're great. We can talk about them. But like I'm kind of over the fancy food thing I also fan. I have I have fine dining fatigue. I like to call it. Well you will. I mean you really go to town in a way that most people I know. Don't you're you're at the far end of the spectrum? Pecan I tell you something on my walk over here. I'm slightly hung over from last night. We we are. We shot an episode of the new Kevin James Sitcom the crew on net flicks plug coming out soon and after the after. We shoot an episode. We'll hang out together and smoke cigars and drinks so much fun. It's so much fun but you know my little brain is a new stall that Scotch and Cigar and supposedly hung over and.

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"bari weiss" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience

The Joe Rogan Experience

12:14 min | 6 months ago

"bari weiss" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience

"Deeply xenophobic politician in France. whose father was profoundly anti Semitic? She claims that he's that that she's not But she's someone that you know you say her name in any Jewish community shoes president of the National Front. Just that name National Front sounds. I was like storm front. It's really not praying and parine French. Politician and lawyer serving as President National Rally Political Party since two thousand eleven with with a brief interruption. Two thousand seventeen has been the member of the national. Doesn't say what she does doesn't say Karl Anyway. So go back to her and or Juzar I I mean just like I don't know I see Z.. Ideas getting expressed like there. There are people that Tucker Carlson has had on his show. Who are like avowed white nationalist? Recently can you google that Jamie. There was a guy that he had on the other day. Or even even these whistles rate of like. There's a way to criticize. Did you find it sorry. There's a way to criticize. I lost my train of thought. Oh north there's a certain here goes lists Tucker Carlson guests who have links to white nationalism. But he agreed with these. The people has argued against their ideas. Roger Stone on Roger Stone's The white nationalist now his links to white nationalism. There was something more recently. Wasn't the first white nationalist. Carlson as was okay. That was Susan Eighteen. Anyway I don't know I mean. Are you not alarmed by the turn that you see in the Republican party toward sort of like the trump cult. Well I think one thing. The Republican Party has done. That's wise if you want to keep a solidified team is that they haven't come out against him and they've supported him and there's very little dissent and this is. This is a good idea if you want your team to win right. And there was a lot of people who were kind of never trumpers who softened their stance once. They realized the power of his presidency. That he's really there's sometimes trump sometimes trumpers. Yeah Yeah I'm alarmed. I'm alarmed by a people. I'm alarmed whenever there's not there's outward there's an outward lack of compassion and when there's an outward disdain for the other because essentially this country is all the other the whole thing and that's all we have is the other I mean. That's that's the whole thing. Well in the whole thing that yeah yeah I mean there's just trump has just beyond the sort of like. He said various things that are like you speak speaking to a Jewish group and he talked about your prime minister. I mean he said so. Many things that are are ridiculous but the big big thing that he's guilty of is he's like dismantled the guardrails of the keep society eighty decent and civil and normal. And like once you dismantle those things like it's very easy to reverse not very easy but you can reverse policies with much harder to reverse is a culture and he has just been gleefully making war on what I think of is very very important. Certain cultural norms like like not attacking the weakest people in our culture like not attacking gold star families. Like I mean he is attacked he has denigrated like the most heroic and the weakest people at our culture at every possible. Turn the Gold Star family thing was very disturbing and weird it just kind of went away. I mean it didn't that was I remember that moment member when he people forget this when he said about Judge Alonzo Curiel who was born in this country entry that he couldn't give a fair hearing trump university because he was born in Mexico in America. Yes this was years ago. It was during candidacy really wasn't yeah we just confer. Jesus Christ they say something about loyal Jews Democrats well Oh yeah that the Jews Jews are disloyal sloyal because they don't vote Republican because look at all the great things he's done for Israel that if you're a loyal jude Israel you would vote Republican. Yeah or that the Jews who don't vote for him or disloyal. I mean yeah that was. That was a high point but I mean just the main like I feel like uh having given you a satisfying answer about anti-semitism itself. I think could remember this too. Jarring to read Indiana born federal judge who President Donald Trump wants. It could not be impartial because he was Mexican cleared a major obstacle standing in the way of trump's long promised border wall with Mexico so I hear that and I'm like Oh that's yeah yeah crazy. It's all feeding this idea that there are some people who are more American than others that are more belonging than others and I think if that idea is despicable reinforces his tribe right and that's one thing that Donald Trump has clearly done as calculate cultivate rather tribe. You know here's a tribe fucking hat right. They have a slogan. And it's a weird slogan because it seems so positive make America great again. That seems positive. But it's not like if you if you look people punch you if you have that hat on so crazy crazy. We've gotten to a point society that something that's a positive statement like make America. Great again is so polarizing that people we'll be violent towards you and feel like they need to. They feel like they need to let your the enemy. This is again when it comes to the the idea of the tribe you know there's there's positive aspects of tribalism right this positive aspects of community this positive acts aspects of people supporting each other and then there's negative aspects. The tribalism that we're experiencing in this country. Politically is very. It's very toxic. And we all we're all aware of it and the tribalism that we're experiencing ideologically very toxic where there is no nuance and you're not you know you're either with us or against us and I think there's some parallels to antisemitism there's some yeah yeah no. I was going to say that like that is a culture. The whole whole culture you just described is one that's deeply unhealthy for Jews or any difference really and I. It's just not coincidental it just seems. Raising percentage of Jewish people also that that that club that tribe or other. It's me even though there's millions of Jews there's hundreds of millions of non Jews. Yes but it's also word. Tried that anyone like I said you can join us. Yes a lot of work though. Sure but joy. What's the catch? You can join the Mormons like you declare the faith you put on the undergarments. Your Mormon joined the Muslims. They're allowed to kill you if you leave. Yes apostasy yeah. Yeah that's the work I mean it isn't I met this amazing guy last night. Who who We were talking about. He grew up in Egypt. Hussein Abu Walkers his name he's really incredible grew up in Egypt and was you know he was like I was swimming anti-semitism. I just didn't even know it wasn't normal like the Moscow went to the school I went to it was like the Jews were the super villain and the whole message was like become a superhero in going going killing defeat. The Jews and I went to a normal moss normal school. This is what I was taught. And I never met a Jew in my life and he gets arrested during the Arab spring because he starts learning Hebrew online. He's really curious about who the Jews are and he gets arrested. I think they're suspicious. That he's Zionist spy anyway. He ends up getting adding asylum. He lives here in. LA got arrested for learning Hebrew. Oh Yeah Whoa. Oh Yeah you think I can just go visit each to know. I know these are so if you want to visit the pyramids you'd be fucked. I Dunno well specifically be fucked because I have a public profile as Jill all right. You don't WanNa go looking online for my name in some of these forums. It's really scary but You look at it. No no there. There are people who look at it for me and tell me what I need to be aware of and you know like every sentence every synagogue I speak to. It's like people don't realize it. I went to a synagogue Friday night in La. Like there's armed guards at every synagogue and Jewish function. That I go to now it's like going through. Tsa To go to like. Imagine that. If most I America's had to do that when they went into church like we think that's insane but that is the state of affairs for Jews and Jews that I know hide evidence of their identity everywhere everywhere they go i. There was a woman who wrote me. Who was reading my book on the subway in New York and was like I'm nervous to be seen reading a book with this title in public and like hit it but I understand why because it's it's become so regular and everyone else just is living their normal life and we're like sounding the alarm here because if there's one thing that Jews have gotten really good at it's like we have an instinct for danger like that is something that we have cultivated over years of being discriminated against persecuted against nearly wiped off the map in Europe? Like we understand. And we smell danger injure sometimes before other people. Do you think that antisemitism is more prominent on the east coast and the West Coast. I think that's a good question. There are just more Jews on the East East Coast West. There are yeah there are. I don't know I don't live out here so I'm not sure failed to think it's different right like they're different kinds. Signs of anti-semitism seems like their kind that we've talked about. That comes on the far right expresses itself one way and there's also anti-semitism that comes smuggled smuggled into the mainstream through the political left that comes cloaked in language that is very seductive like the language of social justice in progress and if if the right claims that the Jews are you know fake white people. The far left claims that the Jews are handmaidens to white supremacy. So whiteness plays like a really really key role in the way that anti-semitism functions right. Here let me explain it. This way. anti-semitism is a sheep shifting conspiracy AC- theory except that right and that is how under Nazism Jews are the race contaminators. How under communism we are the arch capitalist list right how under the idea of white supremacy we are these fake white people right? We appear to be white people. But we're actually doing the bidding of these groups who white supremacist view to be lesser than Black People Brown people Muslims immigrants and how on the far left the Jews are seen as sort. You've the great. What is the greatest evil right now to the far left Whiteness in white privilege and Jews are seen as sort of handmaidens to that? Why because of our success because many of us are of eastern European descent eighty five percent of American Jews are of oshkosh nausea which is of eastern European descent? So we pass as white so we have white privilege bridge and so in the intersectional view of the World Right which reverses the caste system that. We've been living in until now where you have. Someone like Jon Hamm at the very top up and black transgender disabled people. The very bottom will the intersectional worldview comes.

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"bari weiss" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience

The Joe Rogan Experience

12:41 min | 6 months ago

"bari weiss" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience

"It's just doing so in this chaotic virtue signaling very obviously I'm sort of manufactured way I hope you're right I think I am but but the thing that's strange again about this particular pathology. Is that some of the most antisemitic. Countries in the world are countries with no Jews. Right like Egypt has less than twenty Jews twenty. Do you know them. No one in Afghanistan. Jesus one person get out one. Who are you June Afghantistan Bro? He's there there not until recently and of course they weren't talking to each other Pontiac. Fuck and make your way with them. But the point is like Egypt's one of the most antisemitic countries in the world and there are no juice there. How do you explain? That doesn't make any sense. Jews Jewish people are very unusual in that they are a culture a race this into religion and people people who tribe yes lake larded hotter. gorey's don't fit modern modernity so confusing about us. Yes right like we presaged all of those categories that you just laid out which is what makes us so hard to categorize the only thing that mirrors mirrors it in some in some way. Is Muslims in in some way Muslims. They vary wildly wildly in terms of how they look in terms of what part of the world. They're from but they think of themselves as Muslims and Christians think of themselves as Christian. Yes but it's not as tribal liable. It's a minor. It's the a lot not a lot of difference but enough difference that you could categorize it in a different way but the difference is you can't be an atheist Christian Christian atheism Muslim rite aid that there's a million of my best friends. Are you fears an atheist you. It's it's a strange range group and do you think that because of that because when when people are so loyal to their own people with just one thing that I actually admire higher by Jewish people. I think it's it's be nice if more people were like that that they are profoundly pro. Jewish there's not a lot of apathetic pathetic Jews towards Judaism or towards the tribe. I should say well. There's a reason for that. There's like when you ask the nor an average American. How many Jews? They thinker or in America in the world like this enormous number two percent of the population in America. And there's something like thirteen million of us in the entire world less than two percent. Yes isn't that the same as transgender people. I don't know on that you know. I don't know about about up crazy stories in the news whenever a guy wants his balls waxed and has a bill. Business closed down because of it but just the this. Do you think that that might have something to do. Do with it that this now the people for whatever reason when they see someone who is in this sort of I mean I don't WanNa use the word isolated because they're not really. The Jewish folks in America are not really isolated unless maybe like acidic you could say. They're very in very established community in Brooklyn and in other parts of the country but that maybe people look at this community this trump and they think they don't give a fuck about us. They only care about Jewish folks. They might think think that. And that would be an anti-semitic idea in the same like there's this really strange idea that people think that Jews 'cause anti-semitism all right like when the evil man who walked into the Walmart in El Paso talked about a Hispanic invasion and then went into that Walmart and killed upwards of twenty people. No one thought. Maybe he's right. Maybe there is a Hispanic invasion. Maybe that was like somehow how justified because he saw them as insular isolated or looking out for each other. Do you know what I mean. That would be a crazy idea and yet when it comes comes to the Jews people are like well you know. They wear their funny hats. Well you know these seem to be looking out for one another I mean like what do you think there were that kind of rationalizations after the tree of life horrific massacre. Do you think people were saying that. Like hey they were funny hats they look people just looked at it like this is horrible does yes gusting in that case. Yes but not in the case of what's been going on in Brooklyn there we keep hearing things like this is the result of communal friction as if disputes over over zoning laws cause someone to pick up a machete the size of a broomstick walk into a Rabbi's House and hack people up that was emailed you about. Yeah it's just. Do you see what I'm saying. So like the case of tree of life. Let's take that that's like a very what that's a clean case in. The sense of these are innocent. Percents mostly elderly to two of the brothers who I knew who were killed or mentally disabled okay. It was the people that show up to services on time which is a certain kind of person person and you have this white supremacist. Who says all Jews must die? He's totally unequivocal about it. He and he goes in and he tries to do so. You have just a case of someone who any reasonable person seizes evil. Which is the Neo Nazi and people who any reasonable persons? He is totally innocent sent. which is you know Jews in prayer was the guy the shooter killed? No he's he's standing trial. Yeah and there were an embodied this thing. Sorry I stopped no just what the question was like would do they when they have someone like that. Do they extensively interview him and try to figure out what the fuck brought him to that. I mean is he schizophrenic is he a lot of the people like the guy. In the Muncie. A case that we're GONNA talk about the machete guy. He showed signs of mental illness. I think that Robert Bowers in Pittsburgh also did but you know but then so did dylann roof the guy that that killed. However many people he killed at the BLACKSHIRTS church in Charleston South Carolina but he was also white supremacist? It's like these hateful ideologies. He's often they draw. People that are deranged or young or some how on the fringes of society the with the guy in Pittsburgh he was deep into to this replacement theory ideology the reason that he selected tree of life as his synagogue is because tree of life. The previous weekend had participated in this. This program called National Refugee Chabad or Sabbath. It was celebrating the idea of welcoming the stranger. which is a fundamental Jewish value? Do not oppress stranger because you were strangers in the land of Egypt and he said specifically that you know High S. The group that was organizing the National Refugee Chabad it stands for Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society Society it started in the eighteen. Hundreds as a way of resettling eastern European Jews who were fleeing pogroms in eastern Europe now works to resettle refugees including Jews all over the world and he specifically selected tree of life because of that because he said the Jews are bringing in the dirty immigrants into the society so he was like kind of the perfect perfect embodiment of white supremacists replacement theory ideas in Brooklyn. It's much harder cases because it's much harder for people to talk about. Because how do you talk about the fact that in many of these cases and a lot of them have been caught on TV. You know that it's a young black man attacking talking on a Hasidic Guy Walking down the street and WHO's visibly Jewish. It's much harder to talk about when someone is someone who we talk about as being being rightly as being a from a group that is himself victimized a poor black kid in Brooklyn is then going on to victimize another minority group. It's just much harder order when the attacker is not a white supremacist to talk about it that Dan is a strange one. The acidic one is a strange one but in some ways. I think it's easier for ignorant people to look look at them as the other because the way they clearly distinctly dress they dress so much different. It's almost like if you had amish. People move in. And they stuck to themselves and they lived in one sort of community. I think they would probably experience similar level of hatred but then you add into it the sort of acceptance of antisemitism and a lot of communities. It's like it's ramped up but there's this Smith at the Jewish communities of Brooklyn are interlopers. They've been there for more than a hundred years. They've been in Crown Heights in borough park than before caribbeans before lots of other communities unity's the mythology like mythology. Yeah the interloper. The cultural vulture the evil landlord like these are themselves expressions of the antisemitic Semitic idea and people don't even realize it but I think there's also a genuine jealousy in the accomplishments and achievements of Jewish people. You know now I mean if you look at Nobel Prize winners from from Europe in particular I mean how many of them are European Jews. It's fucking stunning. It's stunning when you look at the amount of lawyers. I mean when we just joke around about my Jewish lawyer I mean. It's it's like a standard thing you think. Doctors and how many successful and educated people apple are Jewish. And that's one of the things you actually touch touch on in in your book you you were talking about. I mean it's how then accessible Jewish people have become in this country and there's got to be some sort of a resentment for that as well especially by again. We're talking about mentally deranged. People people with like severe. Some of them are mentally deranged but some of them are young some of them are. That's what's really difficult impressionable. Yeah Yeah it's like the the diseases sort of like unleashed its like Dylann. Roof was mentally ill but he chose a black church coach. He didn't choose a White Mormon Church. It's like the guy in Muncie. He was mentally ill by all accounts but he googled like why did did Hitler hate the Jews and he google various synagogues. Yeah I mean the really an you know. Last time I was on here the COVINGTON video. Remember the COVINGTON. The kids that had just come out. Do you remember in the video. There were those two or three black men who were members of this sect the black Hebrew Israelites. Yeah the Hebrew Israelites and everyone kind of laughed. them off is like ha ha. They're just this obnoxious weird sect well. They their ideology right. The idea that the Jews are not the real Jews were pretenders to the faith that the Jews are behind the slave trade that the Jews are subhuman vermin that was the ideology. She then informed this recent attack in Jersey City. I don't know if you've followed that one. That was the one where it was a couple and they were driving they. They wanted to target police officers and Jews and they targeted his officers and Ju- Yes yes they hated pigs in the hated Jews. That's what they were diary entries in Google searches and think I mean sounds horrible to say but they I. I went the next day to Jersey City to see to see the aftermath of it and they had targeted targeted specifically. This kosher grocery store ended up killing. I think four people but literally the right above the grocery store to the left. It's a grocery store and in a synagogue and above the synagogue is a school where there were like fifty young children and thank God. They weren't murdered. Then they comes to light if you feel like a week ago Oh that they had a bomb in the U.. Haul that had the range of five football fields that they wanted to deploy mean and everyone was laughing like look at these crazy people that believe this crazy ideology will. This crazy ideology is moving people to do very very violent things and there are things that haven't even made the news. You know like if we believe this idea right that the that this was going on in Brooklyn as the result of communal friction. Well how does that explain my friends father-in-law author in law who's walking on the upper east side wearing a yarmulke on his head and gets the shit kicked out of him. How does that explain my friend of Rum? Who is a progressive JU- wears a rainbow in bio yarmulke is on the subway and he has? He's had several interactions with this group. Who Scream at him? Hold one of them. Held up a picture of Louis. Farrakhan saying you're not auto real Jew you're a faggot all of these horrible things this is like creeping in everywhere at a friend on the lower east side that was visibly Jewish now wearing a black hat not worrying a Yarmulke but looked like you were me got punched..

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"bari weiss" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience

The Joe Rogan Experience

14:29 min | 6 months ago

"bari weiss" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience

"Was the great thing about Bernie during the Two Thousand Sixteen election rules transgressed. Let's see those transcripts looking at Larry. David strange like I only see. Larry Larry David doesn't fuck it amazing job as the Meld. It's very weird like I was watching the the the weekly episode of when the Times endorsed the candidates are the two women and it was like. I'm it was very strange. I was like thinking that I'm literally looking at Larry. But him as a human being when I was hanging out with him I believe in him I like him. I like him a lot. I know that the most scandalous thing about in the Daily Mail just like doc was like Bernie Sanders. He requests his junior suites in his hotels to be sixty five degrees. And he asks his staff to collect honey honey packets like this is like for his key. who like? That's all they got them. Yeah I mean the thing to get on him on is like you know his apologetic for Soviet Union for Nicaragua. I mean as foreign policy stuff disaster and that's what the that is. What trump will crush on me? Trump wants Bernie to be the candidate using so you don't think he wants Warren. I mean Warren would be great rate to because then he has pocahontas like but I love the fact. They said that it's racist when he calls her Pocahontas. It's racist Mike. It's a Fuss Disney movie off a lot of people. Yeah but also I mean the moment that I you know gave up on Elizabeth Warren's political judgment is when she decided to publicly we go through the the twenty three and me or whatever it was to prove that she was in fact partially native American. Just dude back off. She thank you she had to. Trump is going to tack on forever now on forever no matter what but now at least it's off the table. She showed the slightest sliver of of native American. Joe It's not off the table. You think that if Elizabeth Warren's not the candidate that's not going to be what he hits her with every single time for sure but it would be more on the table able if she had never taken the DNA test he would be. Oh for sure. Yes yes because it would be this hidden thing. No no no. He knows he knows. I'm lying about my ancestry. It's a big thing to lie about because if you look if you lie about being Dutch okay it's like you know it's Kinda cooled ethnicity but it's not that but you lie being native American. It's different because like they're one of the most maligned and repressed peoples ever in in recorded history history. I mean they were wiped off the face of the map and stuck into these little pockets of land. That don't have strong natural resources. I mean I've a been. I'm on my fifth book in the last three months on native Americans. Wow Yeah I became obsessed empire the summer moon okay. It's a a book on the cheese and it is fucking incredible. It's incredible when you realize that this was going on in this country just two hundred and fifty years ago and that for hundreds of years. The Comanche is just dominated the west they dominated the planes and until they invented a gun. That could shoot more than one bullet the the white men were fucked the comanche just dominate them because it could shoot Arrow after Arrow and they were just a ferocious people that know artwork work. No beadwork they just they just made teepees like eight really they weren't they didn't have like a lustrous like works of art and beautiful. What what commanches were a war people they they raided? They wanted the eight mostly meet. All they ate was meet they bear. They didn't farm arm. They didn't do any farming. They just roamed around killed buffalo and just dominated the entire western half of this country for hundreds and hundreds of years because they were the first ones wants to figure out how to ride horses. They're the first ones to not just figure out how to ride horses but to to raise. Horses animal husbandry. They they figured out how to you accumulate large stables of horses and ride them better than anybody could. I need to read this fucking amazing. It's amazing so good good. It's such a good book and horrific. Do you see the woman out there. That's on the wall. Did outside the native American woman. That's breastfeeding woman a baby. You're taking a real real not an a painting. There's a No. It's a photograph of Cynthia. Ann Parker since the end Parker was she was abducted by the Comanche when she was nine years old and then became accepted as is a part of the tribe and then went on to be the wife of the major chief one of the major comanche chiefs and then was kidnapped back by the United. It states when she was thirty but she didn't want to be in the United States because her whole but whatever the pioneers whatever the fuck they would call them. The Americans are right there. That's the photographs of her. How did you get in like what started your interest in this? Read a book by my friend. Stephen Rinella Called the American Buffalo. And it's the the history of the Bison in the United States in the native Americans that would travel with the Bison all these different tribes that would basically coexisted with the bison just moving with the bison as they migrated and hunting the bison and I was just like what strange thing that these people live in the stone age but fantastic way with all these myths and legends and stories and so much magic in their life and then all that's gone all that's gone and now we just like Elizabeth Warren piece of Meta so when Elizabeth Warren lies about being that. Yeah that's a big deal because they're one of the most mythical cultures one of the most magical cultures in a Lotta ways because look. They did horrific things to each other. There's no doubt about the comanche. Where fucking talking ruthless to each other to other native American tribes they? They went on war constantly that were rating each other constantly kidnapping abducting murdering there was this. There's no the idea of native Americans being peaceable Haas Porsche it one hundred percent horse shit. That's not how they lived. But the way they lived I was gonNA say admirable but fascinating fascinating and powerful and and they had had there very strict rules and codes of operating that were very unlike the Western world and they were invaded they were invaded faded and dominate and killed off by disease. And then ultimately I mean they were shooting buffalo just to starve the Indians out. There's a lot of crazy shit that went down. So when she he comes out and says you know I grew up native American. The fuck you did the fuck you did. And the more books I read now on Black Elk speaks which is my favorite so far because black elk speaks is an actual man named blackout. Who is a a Glut Sioux medicine? Man A LAKOTA medicine man who in the Nineteen Thirties told his story so he was alive when he was there. When custer was murdered he was he was there when the Su were forced into reservations? He's telling the whole story of them going from living this nomadic life to being forced these reservation reservations and starving and alcoholism gaullism and all the chaos that came with it. So and this one is the this one's the best because it's literally his words so you get a direct translation. He's talking to his son. His son is talking to the author and the book was written in the Nineteen Thirties. You spend any time reservation. I have and other than Indian casinos. WHO KNOWS DOING STANDUP I? We're working with them. I mean well. We're working on that right now. We're reaching out to a couple of different native American groups to try to find a good representative representative to comment and talk about their grandparents. taught the stories that they had heard. Yeah it's it's a crazy subject and it's it's to me look pretending you're anything is not good but pretending you're native American to me is like Whoa. That's because because that's one where it's like a spirituality aspect native Americans. It's implied like you say you're native American people like Oh look fucking knows things. You're you're allowed to have feathers. You can have an ironic dream catcher on your wall. No it's different. It's different one thing that like cost play as. Yeah yeah totally. Yeah it's it's it's a weird one you know and you know. Maybe someone lied to her. People people get the wrong information all the time from their great grandparents and you know people so they get and also the thing about Cynthia. Ann Parker Right. Cynthia Ann Parker was zero percent native American but she was one hundred percent Indian. She Still L. was a native American because she's a abducted when she was nine and lived their life. She wanted to go back. I mean that's she threw in her lot with them. Yes made made her them was. She didn't like the Western war when she was forced to live in cities and towns and she fucking hated it. And you get her words you know when when when she's describing the difference like the comanche world was filled with magic and God's the water was God. The Sky was a god. Everything was there was magic. Like you'd there. There was rituals that would do to protect themselves in combat and all these things made life fantastic this the hunting of the buffalo and the nomadic way of life if and then all of a sudden the be locked into these buildings and wearing these clothes and stuck within these rituals that the white men would would live. She didn't want to have any part of that. So even though like you know if someone was Cynthia Ann Parker if she had sex with a white man and made a white baby that is not a native American baby but it kind of is you know I mean in terms of culture. She's she was one hundred percent all in Comanche when they eventually abducted her back. uh-huh amazing stuff so Fuck Elizabeth Warren. Fuck fuck fuck that crazy on native American talk me again again. No disrespect to Mr Moore. Maybe someone lied to her. Maybe someone maybe. She didn't know she was one two thousandth native American. I don't know I also just think I don't know she's she's an expert and she's clearly manipulative. I was GONNA say really smart and has like she knows what she's talking about. I just don't think I just don't think that she sells the American people in this moment. I just don't I don't see it. Yeah yeah I really don't pull Bernie which you saying that. He had pulled her aside in private and said a woman can never be president. Okay you tell me how you saw that moment well the CNN moment was very interesting right when she walked up to him in this very public way. Instead I think you just call me a liar and he was like Oh. Do you want to get into this video where someone put the curb your enthusiasm my God. It's like home. How's tires and it's like the interim music to curb it's incredible? It's it's funny because Tom Sawyer. Standing there like yeah. I don't think I think it was a ploy. I don't buy it. He's been her ally forever and to me. It shows a sign of great disloyalty and great dishonesty like the way she did it she did. It's a ploy like ideally her and him could be allies and she could be. The only person can win right. But maybe she wins and he's her running mate like like some that is one hundred percent possible right so if you're on the DNC together you should be allies right. He's a powerful force in the Democratic Party. She's a powerful force in the Democratic Party. Yeah why attack each other and why attack each other with some bullshit story from like many years ago where he said that a woman's never going to win. I think what I I. I don't know this is one thing where I can give them both a generous read. I think it's very possible that they had the kind of conversation that people like you and I have all the time which is can a woman win. The president of the United States and I think Bernie gave an answer that probably let a lot of people giving those conversations which is maybe not maybe maybe the American people are due sexist to elect a woman. That's possible and she you know and he meant that in an observational way not at any judgment on who she is or the capability of a woman to be president and she heard it in the negative way of women can be president. Yes generous as possible. That is possible. I I agree that she that this was absolutely Strategy hurt part that backfired. That's why it's not a question. But I. I also think that you know I have those conversations every day. Can a woman be precedent people really misogynistic shore. Well they have these ideas about what a president is. The president is an older male. Who is you know well-spoken and educated? Who understands yeah? There's many factors. Yeah that's why people to judge stretch too short and a lot of other. There's a lot of other things. What was it also a fucking mayor right now? And aren't you working. Gang is like are you saying. No Governor Lake lack of government experienced saying. Oh no no no no. He has a job that he's not doing great and he's out there. Running for President like Andrew is not. He's not mayor somewhere whereas ignoring his constituents. He's not ignoring a city. South Bend Indiana. They're freaking out. What the fuck are you doing man? You're supposed to be the mayor. Well that's New Yorkers felt about bill de Blasio which is like our feckless mayor is now running for president. 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"bari weiss" Discussed on Real Time with Bill Maher

Real Time with Bill Maher

13:40 min | 10 months ago

"bari weiss" Discussed on Real Time with Bill Maher

"I appreciate that you raise this issue of anti-semitism and how so it has gotten to a level but I don't think anyone. Our Age would have imagined right. My son had to stay on a pre school. Because there were bomb threats there was graffiti on walls Cetera but what concerns me is this whole conversation focused on some comments that were off color from a few freshmen members of Congress. When we have an entire entire all right online violinist on my synagogue my synagogue competition aren't they both take white supremacy serious but you make the equivalent thing. I don't see how you can. I don't think there are two very different kinds of anti-semitism and maybe let me make them really clear to your very clear. In my book one announces itself bluntly. It's the guy that walks into the synagogue as he did. In Pittsburgh where I was Mitzvah. Instead all Jews must must die. There is consensus in this room in this country about that kind of anti-semitism right. Everyone knows that that's evil. The difference on the left is that it smuggles itself into the mainstream in language that is a siren song to progressive ears the language of anti-racism the language of social justice that is what happened in the Labor Party and while it may not be visit physically violent if someone's GONNA walk in here and kill us. They're going to be white supremacists. Hold on hold on someone's GonNa come in here and kill us. They're going to be a white supremacist one hundred percent. Yes not a question about that but I am here to sound the alarm on something that could be coming but also I'm here. My job is to tell not necessarily just the white supremacy what this is your main because since nine eleven just read this since nine since September eleventh two thousand one almost the exact same number of people think one hundred and four hundred and five have been killed oh by Islamic jihadists or white supremacist now if you start the count on September tenth two thousand and one. It's a very different count so I'm just saying I guess there's there's bad on both sides competition over which is worse. They're both bad. Let's hate them. Invite them what this fight is embarrassing yeah but they're very different kinds of address. I don't think that everyone who's in Palestine is an angel. I don't think everyone associated with the movement is is an angel but I think you're right to say that. There is a danger in the conversation. That's going on in the left now. Because for the first time there is a real focus yes on the human rights of Palestinians and unacceptable apartheid state that exists now which is not so we don't hear is danger for the status yeah. This is the first time stack the movement is not about human rights Palestinians. I support human rights for Palestinians aw supports human rights for Palestinians by also caring about the half a million Palestinians living in Lebanon confined twelve refugee camps where they are denied work in if something like a dozen fields no one talks about that sometimes it's only when Israelis are in the mix that we care there are million wieger skin Shaina China yes limbs in concentration and percents on how the claims to care so much about Palestinian lives and Muslim lives. Don't talk about that you talk about the workers and I know really go to leave in particular has been critical of the Saudis as well are great friends for Saudis either husband inconsistency there the human rights peace Israel and Israel's Israel's our great democratic arable a lot of the audience saying who the fuck to the weaker. We only have a couple one minute left and used up all the. I just wanted to say eighteen years since nine eleven. I think we should say thanks and I never do this. Kinda Shit. You know me I am. I'm not an ASS kisser but it's not about that. It's real the CIA FBI and local police. You know a lot of people did a lot of work. A lot of stick feeds from you know who so what if it happens again does Elizabeth Warren have a plan for that. I mean you know they always have that saying in the like an Afghanistan you the talking about the American soldiers you of the watches we have the time eighteen years is a blip of time to jihadis so the fact that it hasn't happened doesn't mean it's not going to happen again. What if it happened between right now and the election of the Democrats planning for that. What is their response? I don't think they are I think they're flat-footed. We see it in their reaction to impeachment. What should have been a slam doc case. After the report was turned over you see the not really having a cohesive message and I'm afraid for the same set of circumstances. They're not governing in any way in the congress as if they we had the majority I think that sort of martial law scenario that you describe is a plausibility and with this president who has shown. He's willing to do anything earlier this week. What did he say you've been saying along. He joked about it but he wasn't joking. He's not I'm not going anywhere going. He said it talent. GotTa believe right no well. That's that's already laying itself out there for sure. I mean there are a lot of people around town kind of joke about how but they know that there's a level of serious about it but I think to your point about the nine eleven experience in this country despite trump and I agree that there's been a lot of breakdown with with our intelligence community ready they are doing an incredible job the stuff that they stop bill the stuff that has not occurred now here about you don't hear about it despite trump trump in spite of trump and the frustration that a lot of those civil servants have to do their job right now they still get it done and thank. God Yes okay okay. Thank you panel it's time for they're all stop telling me that my choice for a new security password. I'm creating is week. I'm doing the best I can. I don't need attitude it from you. Besides this isn't even my account of warning people that kissing chicken might put you at risk for contracting Salmonella. CDC must mind its own Goddamn business. The life of rural farmers unfulfilling mm fulfilling enough you throwing a wet blanket on the fourth light new rule assure the Shiite Muslim holy day they were pilgrims flagellate and cut themselves with swords must be sponsored by Neo Sporran. That's right Rum's neo sport and when you're Imam says but you don't have a festering wound you can say exactly the new rule the Florida teenager who used her parents. ATM Card to get money to hire someone to kill her. Parents should be ashamed of herself. She had all summer to get a job and use your own money to hire a hitman no. She expects everything to be done for her. If I were parents I would be furious new rule. You don't need to write. I love coffee on a coffee mug. We get that from the Mug itself because you filled it with coffee. It's like writing. I have a small Dick on your Harare and finally Noorul. Someone has to tell me. When did America decide to redesign. Its entire economy based on everyone rating everyone else. Every interaction doesn't have to be followed by survey. Let's bring back. I give you money. You give me light bulbs. I mean both go on with our lives enough with the was it good for you to look just WanNa fuck. I don't want to talk about your good qualities and where you can improve because you're not my girlfriend rutter snake. My Drain and move on Amazon doesn't need to do a follow up every purchase. How'd you like that shower curtain great. It blew my mind when they asked. Would you be willing to share your experience. Yes let me get right on that. I was GONNA screw the wife after but let me sit down and type out of three hundred word George story but how much I liked your fucking cookie. How many times when you're on hold had they asked you to stay on the line after the call to answer survey. Why would I wanNA stay on the line after the call when I can't get someone on the line during it. Would you write your customer satisfaction. Oh definitely a four as in four Fuck Fox sake. Leave me alone. When did American business get so insecure. I was even asked recently to rate my experience in the airport bathroom which was poor. I did not meet a single the Republican Congress. I look come on. It's an airport bathroom. What do you want me to say of all the urinal cakes I've ever pissed off. Laguardia's are the finance. Why does Denny's needs to be on Yelp. He's already away to tell Denny's sucks. Is it sign out front that says Danny this. Everything have to be reviewed. People reviews salt cat says five stars ars. I use daily with some food about this. If you didn't like the way a company conducted its business. Stop using it this team to work for the first million years of commerce. Hamas the practice of rewarding company with repeat business or going somewhere else and if enough customers did that it would shut down and become a Halloween lean store. People's jobs shouldn't depend on some rando judging them and I don't want to NARC on hardworking people in Shitty jobs. millennials might be into that because they love to judge account me out. If the waiter forgets my salad I get over it and whip out my phone. It's you're going down food. It stopped raining me. I don't WanNa be on all the time when I get into an Uber. I just WANNA chill out and enjoy the Armenian disco music. I would give ten stars for just one honest Uber Ride Hi. I'm your Uber Dan. I hate my life. I'm your ride bill. I'm hungover so shut the fuck up. It's not a good mental space to be in to constantly the be asked to rate each other. We're supposed to be the freedom people we're always being watched and tracked and rated run camera traffic lights and ringing ringing doorbells at the ATM were being watched. The gas stations in elevators in parking. Lots married people complain. They can't cheat anymore because cell phones in cars are now tracking devices impossible to have an affair because zero can't keep fucking mountain the I don't want to become China where they have a social credit system where you get Brownie points or demerits. It's for your behavior as it is observed by cameras and by your fellow citizens almost like a financial credit score except it's on you a human. I'm being who sometimes has a bad day became ever have one now. Let's go there which is why I have created. A new site called rottner tomatoes. Tos You could review the reviews of other reviewers. It came up with that when I was stoned and I'm going to give that. We'd a nice reviews. 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"bari weiss" Discussed on Real Time with Bill Maher

Real Time with Bill Maher

03:27 min | 10 months ago

"bari weiss" Discussed on Real Time with Bill Maher

"He's talking to the Social Democrats of Europe. I believe that there should be a system where people are taking care of that. There's there's a safety net if you fall between a crack crack and he tried to enable a lot of problems in Europe France is always a mess. No one's working. Everyone's everyone's pissed on strike in Italy and it's a million lire for a dollar and we've heard this stuff all our life. It's the only side of the story is if you get sick. In Italy you can see a doctor decide ins in this country who came here because they do not like European social when they came because they wanted to go to Disneyland Glib answer they wind commerical America but they would never they never want to risk whether it comes to whether they enhance those countries they went to school for free this. I heard you say this. I don't feel that rise as high as they can and that's you cannot deny that I mean that's the good part of America. You can rise ir but to the people who are the losers. We say good. Luck sucks to be you right. What what we I think we both want it. Somehow come to a place where we're regardless of the title what we call. Alex capitalism sold capitalism plus. Whatever we do agree that this particular system is cruel where where the ninety nine percent work at the behest of the one percent is that is that is something where you know you shouldn't the one percent how much they own how much of the wealth they have and the other ninety nine percent of the fight for these crumbs you you don't like that? I don't like that what we need is a change so it's not just getting rid of trump. I don't know if you agree with all the polls that we've seen there's at least four or five of the candidates that show in every poll they would be trump if put up against trump and intra squad games now. We haven't faced the real this this is like your watch training camp with okay no you don't you walk that general and HBO. I love it. You know what the Bachelorette too so. I don't take how much of value with the quarterback wears a red shirt. They're playing in shorts. This is optic campaign. We're going to be fighting against Donald trump right so it kind of doesn't matter right. You're afraid eight. You're freed that some of these candidates if they say that there should there should be a medicare for all or the college should be whatever that this is going to hurt us. It's not going to hurt us because the American a public booth. This is the thing that's really. I wanted to talk to US yeah. That's who is the US right the American Williams both you and I have fought for years to to get the country where it is now. The majority that you talked about climate change twenty years ago you talked about so many things that legalizing marijuana the fact that that's just happening putting one st after another no you were head of the curve for so many years flock for these things. No we fought for these things the table. Bill Maher believes in with minimum wage seven twenty virus list should be paid this loop drop right but let's not the country where Bill Maher and make them more why pullback now bill because there because I'm sorry you're lumping a lot of vague shit together. The country is for raising the minimum wage of course the country is not for Medicare for all as soon as you ask. The question get rid of private health insurance. I mean Barack Obama said. If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.

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Vox's The Weeds talk about the Intellectual Dark Web

Vox's The Weeds

02:00 min | 2 years ago

Vox's The Weeds talk about the Intellectual Dark Web

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