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How Watergate Set the Stage for the Trump Impeachment Inquiry
"The conversation you just heard between Richard Nixon and his former Attorney General John Mitchell in one thousand nine hundred ninety three was later used news to convict Mitchell on charges related to the Watergate cover up and to send him to prison Mitchell was one of several officials who wound up in prison after after Watergate less than there is that while trump may consider himself to be invincible thanks to that can't indict memo at the DOJ history suggests the people surrounding the president are not always safe. It was the release of these secret tapes that ultimately brought Nixon down but like trump Nixon fought to keep keep those tapes secret he did not admit to his crimes out in the open trump. Meanwhile not only admits to his crime because sometimes commits them on the White House lawn likewise China should start an investigation into the by because what happened in China is just about as bad as what it happened with with Ukraine so I would say that presidents Alinsky if it were me I would recommend that they start it into devices because nobody has any doubt that they weren't crooked. This really should come as no surprise because Donald Trump has repeatedly welcomed and even solicited foreign Kim's Hain help and he has a history of admitting his misdeeds on camera Russia if you listening I hope you're able to find the thirty thousand emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded. Mightily by our press regardless of recommendation I was going to fire. Call me knowing there was no good time to and in fact when I decided to you just do it. I said to myself. I said you know this rusher. Thing with trump and Russia is a made up story. You Might WanNA listen. I don't there's nothing wrong was listening. If somebody called from a country Norway we have information on your Oh. I think I'd want to hear you're like Nixon. Trump has managed to induce lots and lots of government officials from his vice president to the secretary of state diverse White House officials and diplomats to his is George Mitchell Attorney General William Bar to join in trump has already landed people in prison those who committed crimes to please or to help trump along with many others who were indicted and Robert Muller's Russia probe so the question for trump's people the people ladies corrupted as part of his own immensely corrupt government. Is that a dirty they willing going to get an are they risking sharing the fate of people like Mitchell in Flint and Michael Cohen Paul Manafort join now's Elizabeth Holtzman author of the case for impeaching in trump former assistant watergate special prosecutor Jill wine banks. MSNBC legal analyst my widely MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR BARBARA mcquade and Korean jean-pierre appear chief public affairs officer at move on Dot Org. Thank you all for being here. I'M GONNA go right down the middle of my interesting here and go right to Joe Wide Banks because let let me play you. This is congressman. This is actually a Republican congressman back in nineteen seventy three actually calling Nixon's impeachment take a listen to this after having read and reread and sifted and tested this massive information which came before us. I've come to the conclusion that Richard M Nixon Nixon has beyond a reasonable doubt committed impeachable offenses which in my judgment are of such sufficient magnitude egg the Tude that he should be removed from office. That's his name is representative Lawrence Hogan and I believe he is the father of the current governor of Maryland Larry Hogan. If I'm not wrong long so it is possible when people see the evidence they come to the conclusion that the president is committed high crimes and misdemeanors. That's high crimes and misdemeanors but what I want to ask you about jail is the people around Richard Nixon because not not a few of them went to prison. Can you just remind folks who around Nixon wound up not impeachment truck but on the going to jail truck well it was a big group of people who went to jail. It was his White House counsel John Dean who also cooperated with US and was I'm waiting for the John Dean of this scandal to come forward and it may already be the whistle blower it could be Mister Taylor from the State Department in addition his Attorney General John Mitchell went to jail his chief of staff went to jail Mr Haldeman even his chief domestic adviser. Mr Ehrlichman went to jail. There were a big cast of characters that went to jail because they committed crimes James and they did it because he set a tone that it was all okay I m above the law and whatever I do cannot be criminal. We have clear evidence that Donald Trump abetted by William bar is in exactly the same position of I'm invincible. I can do anything he has publicly stated dated that I have total authority to do whatever I want and that was the auditioned memo that attorney general by wrote to get the job so we're in really a the big fix here because the government has become completely lawless and they must be held accountable that is essential and I believe like Acre Representative Hogan that facts matter and I believe that even the most loyal Republicans who are now standing silent they may not be coming out for impeachment different but they aren't defending this terrible threat to national security in fact to world security because by not giving the equipment that was necessary to protect checked Ukraine. They are leaving Ukraine vulnerable to Russian further incursions and that's a terrible thing I mean even Mitt Romney Mitt Romney who who Korean I will remind folks. He did that humiliating auditions where he sat for dinner with Donald Trump to try to become secretary state the irony being had had he actually gotten the job. The likelihood is that Mitt Romney wouldn't have done what might pump pay does it wouldn't have been willing to go around selling these crazy conspiracy theories to prove approve Russia innocent and wouldn't have been willing to ignore subpoenas e but he'd be much more likely to do the right thing. This is what he wrote on twitter. He said when the only American citizen trump single singles out for China's investigations political opponent in the midst of the Democratic nomination process it's strains credulity to suggest it is anything politically motivated so at least there is the chance that there are awesome other Lawrence Hogan's. Maybe yeah I think that's right. I think Republicans a Senate Republicans in particular because we know that lawns who the Republicans who support Donald Trump up in the house. They're all like diehards. They're the ones who out out there. It's the Senate Republicans that we really kind of have to key in on and they've been pretty quiet right. They've been hiding except for four Ben Sasse and as you mentioned Mitt Romney and I think that's probably why Mitt Romney didn't become secretary of state. Donald Trump knew that because what does Donald Trump want right. He wants loyalty which is why he's getting from Pompeo you know where he's getting from pants and it's a one way street with Donald Trump. He will throw all them under the bus as he tried to pence for doing that. Press press press reading where he was just kind of like you should go look at pences phone Oh yeah and threw him under the bus so this is where we are and we're pumpkins have to really think about this. They have to think. Are they really going to really grab onto this wagon this unstable wagon that trump has having now who is a one you know kind of doing this this this this kind of war room on his his own hell bent on doing it and it's a twitter deck and it's really that's it and watching Cable News TV and this is where we are right now. Republicans really have to step up here and the other thing too is. We don't know how this is going to end up. We've never been in this place before impeachment on national security so we we just this is unchartered territory. Yeah absolutely and Barbara WanNA come back because you're so between what green is it which wine banks has said there are a number of people who are allowing themselves to be corrupted along with Donald Trump and the Nixon example is that Nixon didn't go to prison but a whole lot of people around him who you just heard Jill wine banks mentioned went to prison because people willing to commit the crime for him. There are willing to help him to do what he wanted done and once you've done it he may not have liability under that. Doj Memo but you might and I wonder if when you look at the fact that the Attorney General of the United States is flying around the world attempting to prove this conspiracy theory that it was Ukraine Russia that it attack our election when you have the State Department the head of the state our Secretary of State participating on the call lying to the American people about being on the call in which Donald Trump is pressuring a foreign government to help him with an election in which he's committing a crime for which apparently he can't be prosecuted right now where you have senior White House officials hiding hiding the evidence of transcript of Donald Trump's calls in a place that they're not supposed to be in a high security server when you have foreign diplomats pressuring Ukraine essentially trying to strong arm them to help Donald Trump with this conspiracy theory investigations in exchange for aid by could go on and on and on the number of people who are participating participating do any of those people Barbara face potential legal liability. Can any of these people pretend as the vice president and the secretary of state are pretending they don't have to listen to subpoenas but they like trump are above the law no joy any one of these people could be charged with a crime as we saw as Jill explained in the Watergate scandal. You know whenever you've got a public corruption investigation even at the just the garden variety the kind of cases that I was involved evolved with when you approach people you often tell them look you can be a witness or you're going to be a defendant in this case. The choice is yours and already I think we're seeing people people making that. Calculus Kurt Volker resigning abruptly last Friday and agreeing to come testify in bring those text messages which are incredibly Lee Damning. I have seen cases charged on far less where they are talking about the scheme and the scandal. I think Gordon Sunlen has extreme exposure exposure based on what is said in those I think Bill Taylor is someone at the State Department who looks like somebody who wanted to do the right thing.
Where are we on impeachment?
"It is a very very dangerous time and there's really no oversight that can fix it. There's no judicial the I didn't know judicial means to stop and the only way is through impeachment and I think this report just puts puts the onus really front and center in front of the House of Representatives to take it goes articles up that was former Justice Department spokesperson Matt Miller on the Rachel Maddow show with meat last night making clear that of all the potential impeachable offenses offenses against Donald Trump. It really doesn't get any worse than what was revealed by a national security whistleblower this week trump not just for the whistleblower but also according to his own attorney. Rudy Giuliani is literally doing the same thing. The Muller reports says he did with Russia soliciting help for his reelection from a foreign country in this case Ukraine a country that has part of its territory under Russian occupation right now as we speak in an op Ed for the Washington Post former acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal and George Conway lawyer and husband of White House Counselor Kellyanne Conway wrote that if trump did that it would be the ultimate ultimate impeachable act unlike the allegations of conspiracy with Russia before the two thousand sixteen election these concerns these concerns trump's actions as president president not as a private citizen and his exercise of presidential powers over foreign policy with Ukraine moreover with Russia at least there was an attempt to to get the facts through the Mueller investigation here. The White House is trying to shut down the entire inquiry from the start depriving not just the American people but even congressional intelligence committees of necessary information and yet on Friday when House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was confronted with all the outrage surrounding trump and the whistleblower complaint that his administration continues to withhold from Congress in violation of law by the way she still didn't budge you're describing ving potential acts of law breaking and many people here that and say if Congress does not pursue impeachment. Does it forever change the standard of what is acceptable behavior by any president. I don't know about lawbreaking said we don't have the information. I don't want to suggest that I said that because we we don't have the information while others may speculate. I have to go on the basis of the law and the facts and that's we're decisions will be made so why even with people's heads literally exploding that trump is now committing same collusion Robert Muller investigators found but this time as president why why won't Democratic Leadership Support Impeachment now as I've said before on this show it comes down to the numbers to the question of whether Pelosi has the democratic votes to to get an impeachment through the house and the fact that the speakers clear sole concern is keeping the House majority in democratic hands and that means her only focus this is those conservative leaning House Democrats who won in trump district and whether they will give her the votes even now with trump define congress defying the law and in the position to meet out retribution to this whistle blower through his conciliatory and the Justice Department Attorney General William Barr now we on the show reached reached out to a number of conservative. Democrats some of them are on the record of posing impeachment and some who are not either way to see if they would come to the show today come on the air and answer the question of whether on this issue that is about national security which presumably is important to them and their right of center senator constituents whether they would now give their party the votes on impeachment they all declined to come on the show and by the way any moderate or conservative Democrat who's willing to explain Blaine to our viewers why they don't support the House Judiciary Committee's impeachment inquiry in the face of alarms about our national security raised about the president of the United States from from within the intelligence community. They are always welcome to come on this show and explain their opposition they can actually call right now because the question is if if national security is not compelling enough to garner enough democratic votes for impeachment of the President if defying Congress and defying the law are not enough within within what is joining me now political contributor Timothy l O'Brien Tar Dell Dell President of the Teradata del Group. MSNBC contributor in former US attorney Barbara mcquade Jeff houser founder and director of the revolving door project MSNBC contributor and former US attorney Joyce Vance and Jill wine banks former assistant Watergate special the prosecutor.
"barbara mcquade" Discussed on The Oath with Chuck Rosenberg
"Blower. What happens next George Karachi had been a whistle blower, once before. So he knew how to go about filing a key Tam lawsuit. He found a lawyer very good Relations Council who came to the US attorney's office and met with the chief of our civil affirmative litigation unit and agents of the FBI, and HHS, health and human services and he shared with them. The story of what had been happening that was on a Friday afternoon. And I remember getting a call from the CEO say Peter Kaplan, wonderful lawyer, who immediately recognized, you're the US attorney now, you're, you're the boss. Yes. And Peter immediately recognized that if what he is saying is true, then people are being injured every day that Dr Fata is in practice, and what he said, and what I believe, is, you know, these cases can be really hard to prove because the spectrum of what is reasonable medical care is, is quite large. And so, even if the doctor is being very aggressive. It's. Probably not beyond what is medically reasonable. But just in case we probably ought to treat it as if it's true, and I agreed with him. And so if agents HHS agents in USA's worked around the clock for the next several days over the weekend to try to confirm whether this was true they were able to access records through the Medicare system and hired an expert to look at these records and out of the Representative sampling. And she looked at twelve patient records, they went twelve or twelve people have been diagnosed with cancer who did not have cancer, these types of cases can take months if not years to prove, and you had a team of agents and prosecutors who in seventy to ninety six hours, establish probable cause the believe the doctor Fata was committing a crime. I don't know that people will appreciate how fast and how well they did their work. I agree. It was incredibly fast in part of it is because they immerse themselves in all weekend and worked on it, they did get. That confirmation from the expert. In knew what they had. They spent all day Monday putting together a search warrant affidavit search warrants a complaint for an arrest a plan for executing all of those search warrants. They searched every one of his locations seven plus his home in an arrest warrant. And so all of that materials dump at the other thing, they did Chuck that was so impressive is thinking through patient care because if they were to take down his practice on that Tuesday morning as they intended that meant patients scheduled to have chemotherapy treatments that day would be turned away. And so one of the other things that we had a wonderful victim, witness coordinator name sandy Palaiseau. She worked with her team to put together a list of alternative cancer providers in the area and a protocol for patients to get their patient files which they would need to take to a doctor to get care while the agents and prosecutors and civil attorneys were working on the plan to arrest. And search Dr Fatah's home and. Premises. The victim witness folks were working on a plan to take care of the patients. I'm so glad you mentioned the victim witness folks, because when I was in the Sistan US attorney we had several in our office, and they were magicians. They do anything immediately to take care of people and their level of commitment and passionate dedication was, I think unrivalled, it's a part of the us attorney's office that I think lots of folks don't know about I think we don't see it. But it's so incredibly important when we had victims who were testifying in court involving loved ones who were murdered. Or when we had children who were testifying cases of child exploitation or sex trafficking. The victim witness coordinators, were, they're making all the arrangements, but also sometimes sitting in court and holding somebody's hand or escorting them around the courthouse. And so they really do wonderful work. I wanted to share with you. Bob very brief story about a case I worked on as a junior junior prosecutor. We had a doctor in the eastern. District of Virginia cease Jacobson, who was a fertility specialist and committed to different types of fraud on his patients one is he was inseminating patients with his own sperm, and the women who was treating the families. He was trying to help have a child didn't know that and second and just isn't Citius. He was injecting his patients with massive amounts of h g union on it out atropine the hormone that woman's body would produce if she were actually pregnant, such that their bodies were mimicking pregnancy. And then after eighteen or twenty or twenty two weeks he would tell them falsely that their fetus had died that they lost their child all that was a fraud. And again, as with Dr Fata, it was just unfathomable that a medical professional do that to patients, I think perhaps, for the same reasons, money and power is incredibly shocking, when you were working on that case. Check. How did you deal with? Victims in that case. Well, again, I was the junior junior prosecutor was led by a very talented a USA name, Randy bellows, who's now at a state judge in Virginia. And so I basically did a lot of research and whatever Randy needed me to do. But when you mentioned victim witness specialists again, here's a place where we use them, because we had to figure out even how to approach people to let them know what had happened to them and some care deeply and some didn't want to know. And so we needed the expertise of ethicists and victim witness specialists, and other doctors to help us understand how we could approach the victims of Dr Jacobson's fraud. And what did you end up doing? I'm not sure I would know whether I it's better to tell people about this or to, to not tell them is. That is at less cruel, as I recall, we sent out a letter to those who had been victims of the insemination fraud and told them that we might have information that might be. Important to them, and they could avail themselves, if they wished and many didn't some did not. We were counselled to give, as much choice to the victims as possible and not to just drop a bombshell on their front doorstep out of the blue. I think that's one of the things probably the public doesn't see a whole lot is the care with which people who are victim, witness coordinators spend a lot of time, thinking about how best to treat victims of crime also lucky bar, because I learned from Randy bellows, and his cO council, Dave Barger, who were consummate professionals about how to handle not just a complex case. But a case that was fraught with a motion. Whatever happened to Dr Fata in your case eventually entered a guilty play the evidence is really quite overwhelming against him. It was really irrefutable medical records that could prove his guilt. And so ultimately he pleaded guilty. He was sentenced to forty five years. And, you know, for a man who is about fifty years old at the time of sentencing. That is essentially a life center. Since into some of his victims wanted more more time or even the death penalty, which was not eligible in a case like this. But, you know, I thought it was a substantial sentence in an appropriate under the circumstances and paroles not available federal system. Yeah. That's right. So he'll serve close to forty five years if you behave yourself in prison, you do get some modest credit from the time, but he will serve a substantial sentence. And I think when you think about all the reasons that we have sentencing deterrence and protecting the public promoting respect for the law, and all of those things, and even just due punishment. The sentence was appropriate case like this remarkable how somebody's interested in money and affection for power could hurt so many people, there are other doctors to who really horrified by this behavior, because, as we know most doctors are attracted to medicine, because they want to help people overwhelmingly, so absolutely. And so, I think that's why it was just so unthinkable that Dr Fata would view patients, not as. You know someone that he wanted to heal, but a prospect for profit, a remember talking to some other doctors during the Cecil, Jacobson investigation, and I think horrified is the right word. They could not begin to understand how a member of their profession could do this to people, and in many ways, I think it caused patients to accept advice that they might otherwise have been skeptical about. And so, you know, the.
"barbara mcquade" Discussed on The Oath with Chuck Rosenberg
"Take the oath, and serving as an assistant, US attorney is a powerful responsibility. And so Steve Murphy, who is now a district court judge. Fellow is and I don't know where he got this idea, but he began doing something different which was when we had new assays joined the office, he would convene a hearing before the chief, judge in open court and invite family members of that USA and invite the whole office to come because he recognised how important the oath was, and it was a tradition that I continued, because again, it's important to the person coming in, we wanted to impress with that person, just how serious this oath was that we meant it that it was something we wanted to be reminded of. And I think it was just as important for the people hearing it, again, the colleagues who surrounded that person as it was for the new. And so it has become a tradition in the eastern district of Michigan to do it that way that continues to this day. Bob, you mentioned the many different types of cases, you handled as an USA, one case who handled involve Iraqi spies, and I thought that was worth describing further for our listeners fascinating case. So after nine eleven our office set up a national security unit, and I became part. In that unit and handled a number of different kinds of cases, one series of cases, we handled was so interesting after the US invaded Iraq in two thousand three one of the things that happen was the US army went to the Iraqi intelligence service, which is sort of their version of the CIA and grabbed all of the files that were in that building. And then exploited them as the word they use. They had translators experts go through those files, they were in Arabic, but to determine what they were in what they said and a few years later, when you say exploited you mean for US intelligence purposes, correct? And so there are a number of reasons that those documents would be used but one of them was referral for criminal prosecution, and there were files that were found that were source files for people living in the United States, and those files got sent to the FBI offices around the country where those people were living. And three of them were in Detroit. There were three. Living in metro Detroit. They didn't work together. I don't know whether they knew each other or worked with each other. But there were files that showed their travel into and out of Iraq. They met with handlers. They shared information, and they were reporting on ready dissidents living in the United States who were speaking out against Saddam, Hussein, they would attend their speeches and bring back recordings and newspaper articles at a time when it was illegal to travel to Iraq timber goods into Iraq. And so these dissidents had family and Iraq, they could be in grave danger, based on the work of these Iraqi spies that really is what I think, makes their work so significant not only were, they sharing information with a foreign adversary, but they were sharing information about residents of arrack, who certainly were at risk, what happened and all of those cases, the defendants were convicted one of them went to trial. Two of them pleaded guilty. But the cases were really quite strong. We had a interpreter com, interpret what was in the files themselves? So the files were really some of the most powerful evidence, but we. Also had a witness who came and testified, who is a former Iraqi intelligence officer who had been captured and was cooperating. And he testified that he remembered that source information he was the head of the Americas desk for the Iraqi intelligence service, and he was aware of that source reporting, and actually had taken action in response to information provided by that particular source. And so I think that brought home that these were genuine documents that it was utilized by the Iraqi intelligence service, and that they perceive that the information had value, that's amazing witness to have it really was, and one of the most interesting things about it is, in addition to testifying, he testified under light disguise, which is something I teach in my national security class. It's not without controversy. So you said you teach light the skies near criminal procedure class. What are the issues arise, the defendant, of course? Has a right under the confrontation clause to confront witnesses against them part of that is allowing him. And the jury to see facial expressions hearing persons. Tone and body language is important to assessing credibility. And so the jury is entitled to see those things. So disguise is permitted by the court, but as you know, the independent arbiter there in the court, and making sure that everything is done fairly the judge wants to make sure that the jury can see those things, and so it might involve facial hair, it might involve changing hairpiece, it might even be some sort of prosthetic facial feature but it is subtle. So that is our clear mouth is clear facial expression is clear. So it strikes Aballah nst between protecting the witness and affording defendant, the right to confront that witness pursuant to the constitution. Absolutely. So the witnesses identity was what was kept secret his name, and what he looks like, because any, the court, of course, is open to the public, and anyone could come in and see what he looks like, but the defendant also has a right to confront him and to ensure that he is exposing the jury to any potential biases and so that the jury can read any of that. Body language that might be indicative of credibility. How many years did you spend, as in the system, US attorney, I was an assistant attorney for twelve years, roughly five in the general crimes unit, and then another seven doing national security cases, and then you became the United States attorney in the very district in which you had grown up as a prosecutor, how did that happen? So in two thousand nine I was nominated to become the US attorney in the eastern district of Michigan and incredible. Honor, working with wonderful colleagues honor of a lifetime. I enjoyed both of those jobs, a total of nineteen years in the eastern district of Michigan while you were the US attorney, barb, you had some fascinating cases in your district as reading about one of them that I would love few to talk about. You had a doctor by the name of Farid Fata, who was a self professed cancer specialist, who had committed a massive fraud on his patients. Can you talk about him and what he did? And what you found. Yes. So read fodder was very successful on. Colleges cancer. Doctor in metro Detroit, he had seven offices and really thriving practice what he was convicted of was lying to patients telling them that they had cancer when they did not in the world would anyone do that. He did it so that he could administer expensive chemotherapy treatments for which he could Bill. Medicare and receive reimbursements in. We believe he profited by about seventeen million dollars by doing it. Undo know how many patients he lied to in that way. We were able to account for five hundred fifty that we were able to document, we believe they're probably more. But those were the ones that were the clean cases that we could present in court and make a provable case. It's a stunning that a doctor and doctors also take oaths right to care for their patients and do no harm would actually lie to them about cancer. And then treat them for disease, they didn't have it really was stunning. And in fact, at first, it was difficult for patients to believe that he had done this. They defended him in the early going, I think until the evidence came out in court. Because they were just so horrified that anyone could do that. And, you know, even though those patients while they were relieved to learn that they didn't actually have cancer. That was great news. Many of them had endured chemotherapy for many years or many had spouses who had endured chemotherapy for years, and we're now deceased and some of them had suffered permanent injuries to organs and nerves some had lost their teeth. And so they were very angry. But one of the things that was really interesting because that's something I wrestled with quite a bit too, is, how could anyone be so monstrous to do this to someone greed is one answer, but at his guilty plea when the judge asked him why he had done this. He told the judge he did it out of greed and also for power. He seemed to enjoy having power over people's lives. I mean for many of them, he ultimately was able to tell them that they were in remission, or he had cured them. Perhaps that was some of the power that he enjoyed as well. Astonishing answer Bob the way this came to light as also a fascinating story. One of the patients who had been treated for cancer, and who did not have cancer was woman named Connie flag. Tell us what happened to Connie flag and how this case how this crime came to the attention of the men and women in your office. Flag was a fifty one year old woman who was in good health. She had a blood test that showed a high level debt caused her primary care physician to have some concerns that perhaps you ought to see an uncommon gist. And so, she saw Dr Fata, we have heard later that most doctors would have done additional testing. Or maybe monitored her situation, he told her falsely that she had cancer and that she needed to begin chemotherapy treatments right away. So after her first chemotherapy treatment, she was home and, you know, distraught thinking about her diagnosis, and she had an unpacked suitcase suitcase. She was in the process of unpacking on the floor, and she was home it began raining, so she ran upstairs to close a window and as she turned around, she tripped over that suitcase. She was in the process of unpacking and broker leg and thought. How well have just gone from bad to worse and went into the hospital with broken leg. It was over the July fourth weekend. So Dr Fata was out of town and not available to tend to her two thousand thirteen. So a different doctor part of Dr Fatah's practice was making the rounds instead and checked on her doctors so manga who worked for Dr Fata? Yeah. And who already had some suspicions about his irregular practices. And in fact, had given notice to leave that practice the following month, but was still finishing up his, his work with Dr Fata enduring his rounds checked on her coincidentally, coincidentally, while she was at the hospital looked at her file looked at her injury and Astor who told you, you had cancer, and she told him doctor Farid Fata. And this confirm some of Dr Monga as concerns about Dr Fatah's practice of medicine. Yes. And so he discovered in her files that she did not have cancer. He looked at her patient records, and he told her. Urged her to get a second opinion. The she did in found out that she did not have cancer. So what the doctor Mongla do with this must must've been very disturbing to see that. His colleague had begun treating MS flag for cancer. When, in fact, she was cancer free. He was. He said he was distraught about it. He went back and he spoke to the office manager at Dr Fatah's practice a man named George Karachi and told him what he had discovered and George Karachay also had his suspicions about Dr Fata from having been the office manager. He wasn't a doctor. He wasn't a medical professional, but he had heard from nurses, and others who had left, working there after short, periods of time because of suspicions that something was amiss, and he had had the experience of serving as a Relator in a key, Tam case previously. Now that's a case, where there is a fraud against the government, a litigant a private litigant may come to the government and share this information about fraud against the government. So. The government can file a lawsuit to recover the fraud laws and the person who comes forward would be the Relator the technical terms, relate or sometimes referred to them, as a whistle blower, oftentimes, it's an insider like that. And their incentive is that they get a share of the recovery that the government is able to earn from the lawsuit you used another term key. Tam. What does that mean it's a Latin phrase, I think it means something like he who sues on behalf of the king. And the idea is that this person has come in and can file his own lawsuit in also join in the recovery that the government receives as a result of this lawsuit wouldn't have known about it, otherwise. But now the government is able to sue for losses that it incurred as a result of this wrongdoers misconduct. So the office manager Karachi believes that the government is being defraud by Dr Fata and Karachay brings a key Tam lawsuit in, which he is the Relator, those are all the technical terms, but as you said, so eloquently, and so simply essentially, he's a whistle..
'Multiple Crimes' by Trump in Obstructing Justice, Says McQuade
"Former US, attorney Barbara mcquade claims. The mother report shows beyond a reasonable doubt that President Trump broke the law mcquaid testify before the House Judiciary committee yesterday which continues to investigate the two thousand sixteen election conduct described in the report constitutes multiple crimes of obstruction of Justice. And I'm confident that if anyone other than a sitting president committed this conduct that person would be charged with crimes, the former US attorney for the eastern district of Michigan, claiming the conduct described in the report created a national security risk, and was designed to prevent investigators from learning all the facts about Russia's involvement in the election.
"barbara mcquade" Discussed on Newsradio 950 WWJ
"Attorney for Michigan. Barbara mcquade opinion. President Trump obstructed Justice multiple times. She testified before the House Judiciary committee today on her reading of the Muller report mcquaid, who is now a university of Michigan. Professor says it posed a risk to national security mcquaid believes the obstruction was designed to prevent investigators from learning all the facts about an attack at our country by hostile foreign adversary. This just in the university of California Los Angeles, says one of its former employees has been arrested for alleged misconduct. According to the Associated Press the employees was the school gynecologist. They're accused of sexually abusing patients. We're working the story. We'll have more as soon as it becomes available. The Detroit man suspected of being a serial killer and rapist now being link. Two, two other sex assaults wing county prosecutor's office today, charged thirty four year old Dangelo Martin with attempted murder and criminal sexual conduct related to an attack last month this afternoon. Police chief James Craig said there was another woman who survived an attack last week. If we hadn't gotten him as quickly, I think he would have struck again. And clearly when you look at today's we're talking about a June third date. And this was after we put information out and this is on a survivor. So what at what if we have not arrested him with the additional victims Martin was taken into custody as a person of interest on Friday chief Craig says the investigation into the murders linked to Martin his ongoing. Meantime, it was a violent weekend in Detroit with three deadly shootings fourteen others, wounded chief Craig says those who were killed were shot outside of bars. Six arguments. One narcotic of the fourteen seven unknown of the fatal shootings woman was related to domestic violence, a one connected to a vehicle road, rage, and of the three fatal shooting instances, three arguments that occur outside of bars says the number of homicides down by eight compared to a year ago, the number of non fatal shootings up by three anyone with information on any shooting should call crime, stoppers at one eight hundred speak up a massive search under way for an automotive journalist who's been missing for nearly a week. It. Rugged area of northern California. WW J auto beat reporter Jeff Gilbert explains. It's a deepening mystery forty four year old David Johnson contributed a car, and driver taking a motorcycle on a trip through California, and Nevada is girlfriend writer Jacqueline trop till CBS this morning. Johnson hasn't been heard from since Wednesday, he texted a friend of his to say that he was sitting in the creek at the rest stop just enjoying himself. Johnson's motorcycles been found so have most of his belongings other than his wallet. Emergency cruisers centering their search on an area of California's remote Sonora pass. Jeff Gilbert, w w j go nine fifty American Airlines is pushing back the plan return of its Boeing seven thirty-seven max jets till early September two weeks longer than the airline had previously expected company over the weekend removed. It's twenty four max jets from the flight schedule through September third plane has been. Grounded around the world. Since mid-march after the second of two crashes.
Why did Manafort judge throw guidelines out the window?
"We'll pull Manafort have more time tacked onto the forty seven months that he got in the northern Virginia case. Yes, he will the DC case is very different case. And here's why the sentencing guidelines for Manafort in DC are way above even the statutory maximum. And when that happens, the sentencing guidelines automatically become the statutory maximum in DC, that's two counts. Five years each you, add those up you get ten years. So that's the recommended guidelines right out of the gate for the judge is that ten year maximum that doesn't mean that she'll sentenced him to the full ten years. She might still go below the guidelines based on aggravating or mitigate or really mitigating factors not aggravating factors. So she she. Could go below those guidelines, but she will certainly be thinking about the sentence that Paul Manafort received whether she speaks about it or so so Danny let me ask you given the length of time that Paul Manafort created are engaged in these crimes and given the fact that he did it at the highest levels of government, and given that actually could be argued that it damaged American democracy of how in the world could this judge go so far below guidelines. The simple answer is because he can the sentencing guidelines for well. Over a decade now have been advisory only. And that means that judges can go below the sentencing guidelines as long as they shocked that he did. Yes, I was. And in fact, it's on the record. I did believe the judge would go below the sentencing guidelines, but I was thinking more on the order of ten. In years to fifteen years not for the not in the five year range. But if you look at the statistics, if you look at all defendants are almost all defendants sixty nine years of age or older who are sentenced in the federal system. Most of them get in about the five year range and most fraud and similar cases get much lower sentences. Remember, the guidelines are not a representation or an empirical study of how recent sentences have gone, they are prominently gated by the sentencing commission, and in fact, often you see that courts, go below and they can go above the guidelines because they legally can do so and have been able to do. So for many years now, Barbara mcquade, I would ask you how you feel about the sense given. But I know how you feel because you're on the top of the fold here in the New York Times a quote from you calling the sentence atrociously low and absurd. I'll ask you to explain that. There's also another element of this prosecutor said in coach. It yesterday effectively. Yes, we talked about Paul Manafort for fifty hours. We got nothing value for him. In fact, we know now that he lied to us. Yeah. I think that this sentence is atrocious. Low forty seven months out of a range of nineteen to twenty four years. And actually, this is something you see quite a bit in white collar cases as Danny said even out of the gate. He was expecting a sentence of ten to fifteen years. And I think it is Joe described the evidence of two America's we see this very frequently in white collar crime cases, where defendants get a huge break on their sentencing guidelines. They say things just like Paul Manafort said that I feel shame. I feel like I've already been punished because of the embarrassment. I feel among my peers, well, tell that to the indigent defendant who doesn't have prominent people to write letters for them to vote for them all of their good works to say that he has led and otherwise blameless life is like the old joke about other than that. How was the play MRs Lincoln he committed fifty five million dollars in infra? God over an extensive period of time failed to pay six million dollars in taxes. It's a serious crime. And you got a slap on the wrist. And I think for that people should be outraged.
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"Thousand which means we'll be adding a second. News update bonus episode for patrons starting this week. So look for that Wednesday night. There's a morning Pacific time any final thoughts. You guys. To each other. Yeah. Be nice and twenty nineteen don't beat like twenty eighteen. Yeah. I wanted to comment on an Email. We got to someone expressed discontent with us talking about our personal lives for two minutes in the beginning of our episodes. And I just wanted to say while we welcome feedback. Thank you, very feedback. It's like as human decency thing, I think, obviously, we know it's not related to the news. But it's like mister Rogers neighborhood kind of you know, we're nice to each other. We check in on each other. We can see how doing yeah, we're community here. Whole health health, health and wellness, also OBGYN doctor. But. Yeah. Anyway, if anyone else was bothered by that, I'm sorry. I don't think we should stop doing that though. No humanizing. I think it reminds me that we're not just robots reading the news. You know, where people we're engaging citizens, and I think it's all relevant. Yeah. That was a weird Email. I saw that. And I've never gotten one like that before. She's like, I can't even believe it that you talked about your vacations and what you did for the holidays. And what you know. What gifts you got people? I'm here for the news. Like, I've never heard this before my latest podcast like maybe she should listen to it like in double seat. Yeah. Just straight to the head street to just the fact that's true. You can always skip through stuff. You don't like we post Timestamps go back to the other like in the pack locks, but yeah, I post them. So they can check it out and jump around. Yeah. Starting recently. That's what that's what you're doing Julius, basically if anyone's interested if you go to the episode description, there's time stamps in there. So you can jump forward to the interview here, you can jump to just the facts, if that's all you want to hear you don't have to listen what the fuck we got each other, exactly. Exactly. Yes. Just on the topic of being kind to each other just being kind positive so much negativity. But yeah, I love our fans though. I love our. We're bitching about it. Yeah. I mean, she is still a listener. She's she's a very interesting accession. I think it was it was a rare. I mean. Yeah. But some people still also Commodore like, I don't wanna hear your personal banter say that stuff. Yeah. You're giggling, or whatever, I guess, I'm just saying we're humans and thank you for bearing with our humanity. That's the best way to put it. Yeah. So it's terrible have to be like, thanks for bearing with our humanity. Right. There's planning podcasts that get straight to the facts the daily, you know, like, there's all these places they can go if they really want that. But I think part of our brand is that we're we're just women were just, you know, we're doing I think. Yeah. And kindness real chill nece. Yes. Go forward. Go forth with it in twenty nineteen do. Well. Yeah. Do nice things for people. Be kind vote democrat g. Like, I said hit hard in the primaries for whoever you want. Don't take down other Democrats just be like, I'm not into their ideas. Right. That's not. I think this person has better issues in on the platform. Don't be like don't fall for the Russian propaganda. An I say that because I have so. Yeah, you know, just be careful and be kind, and I think that would be good. I've been AG. I've been Lisa Johnson. I've been Coburn. And this is Miller. She wrote..
"barbara mcquade" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"Yeah. Not makes a lot of sense. And now, you know, as we know Nancy Pelosi took the gals this week for the for the house, the Dem's took the house in the midterm election. And she named Adam Schiff head of the Intel committee, and Jerry Nadler think as the presumptive. Of person who's going to be sharing? Did you dish a committee? And he's said and others have said that, you know, if this gets somehow blocked they could just subpoena or not subpoena, but ask Bob more to come in and answer questions in in testimony public or otherwise. And I was wondering if these kinds of things, you know, situations like that. How do you think the Democrats taking the house might impact the Muller probe going forward in these in these scenarios? Well, I think it certainly advance investigation. I don't know that they Vance Robert Muller's investigation specifically, you know, he is continuing to work quietly before the grand jury which opinion is the most effective way to work because it's free of the political process that you can hearings hearings. You have members of congress who are trying to stand her political points in ask questions in a very limited period of time, which is not very effective for follow up questions. But nonetheless, I. I think that a difference in meter ship can matter in terms of their own investigations, we saw the house intelligence committee for sample into leadership of Devon news. I think really just completely Pontus investigation into Russia closing their estimation before hearing from a number of witnesses. I know Adam Schiff who's now taking charge of that committee has said one of the first things he wants to do is to subpoena. The phone records that indicate the Donald Trump junior talked to someone on a block number as he was negotiating the meeting at Trump Tower where he was going to talk with Russians about dirt on Hillary Clinton. How anyone could let that go and not want to know who Donald tempting you may have been talking to. I think begs the question what what was the gender of the Cryer leadership of the house intelligence committee. And so I am hopeful that new leadership will be interested in a quest for the truth rather than in Ebeling cover up. And so I do think that that kind. Of rigor could bring light to the Russia investigation, not necessarily Muller's specific probe. But the bigger picture of the truth about what happened with our election. Yeah. Exactly. I tend to agree with you on that. And one last thing before I let you go. Can you tell me how you see this sort of playing out this year with Muller and his reports, and how you see that kind of getting either to the public or or not do you have any kind of predictions on on how it might end? Well, I think that there's some work to be done before complete with all of his work. There's you know this disclosure by Jerome Corsi, the conservative writer who shared with the public plea offer that he received from Robert Mueller's team for lying about his advance. Now, it's open Wiki leaks disclosures of DNC emails. No prosecutor makes a plea off from us. He's prepared to back it up if that offer is rejected..
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"You did. All right, guys. Welcome back. It's time for the interview. And this week. I had the distinct honor of speaking to one of my favorite MSNBC contributors barred mcquaid, let's have listen. So today for the interview we have a very special guest. I'm very excited. She's a law professor at university of Michigan. Which is my football rival. I am the Ohio State. But that's okay. We love her. She's a former US attorney in the eastern district of Michigan and an MSNBC contributor. It's barred mcquaid. Barb welcome to Muller. She wrote. Thanks. He be here. Awesome. I'm glad I hope. I hope our football rivalry doesn't interfere with our ability to chat about Muller. I wrote you my best to overlook your book. I nece Q, and I'll do my best to overlook your wolverine ass-. So both Nancy Pelosi and Jerry Nadler have come out this week saying that the president being able to be indicted is still an unanswered question. Right. But the common theory is that Muller will follow the department of Justice legal counsel guideline memos saying that a sitting president can't be indicted and. I was wondering where you came down on this issue. And if the statements of Pelosi at Nadler make any kind of difference. Yeah. Interesting. I think number one absolutely correct. That is far from resolved question. Whether a president can't be indicted, and I think even far from clear as to whether the DOJ position is at st- in stone. You know, a lot of scholars have written about this. And they pointed out that there are a number of different memos. I think the ones we hear the most about our memo written by the office of legal counsel in nineteen seventy three during Watergate and again in two thousand during the Clinton administration. But there's also some memos that were filed in litigation in the US versus Nixon case, litigating the tapes, some things written by wore ski that really makes it kind of less than clear, whether the president can be dated, and guess it all really comes down to what Robert Muller does with this guidance. You know on the one hand, I think he's very much the company, man. Toes line would follow all the OJ policy as he is obligated to do under the reds, but we have worst. He said something interesting when he submitted a document to the supreme court in litigating the Nixon tapes, and he talked about that it would be a real shirking of duty to decide that the president is not eligible for indictment is somehow immune from indictment and could set a dangerous precedent damaging to the rule of law. And so on the one hand while I think Robert Mueller is someone who follows the most. I also see you miss someone who not sure 'cause responsibility. And so at the end of the day, maybe he decides that the indictment is what's appropriate and what his duty calls for. Yeah. That's really true. I'm glad you brought that up. I I remember reading an article about his master's thesis, where it wasn't just about the process in the courts, and general, you know, rules, but it was also about Justice as a big picture. So that's really fascinating that you. Bring that up. And and also also the Joe war-scape issue because I had a question about about that recently won a juror skis roadmap, quote, unquote for releasing criminal information to the House Judiciary committee from the grand jury came to light. It was unsealed her. I think it I think it was under seal for four decades before, but then it came to light. And that road map, basically allows the the secrecy of the grand jury information to be or it sets a precedent that says it can be released to the House Judiciary..
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"I'm gonna go with Mangione. Okay. God, she sucks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think we've just been going to circle heavily. We have to do. Trump org. They can still get stuff, right? Yep. You can pick an entity Trump org. Goodwin. I'm going Ackson. Erickson I forgot about them of all teen in the bees visa, guess is doesn't have to be. He's not the let me funny if it were way around though 'cause she's evil. I mean, he him too. Yeah. I'm just going to have a Rando now. Okay. All right. And anyone where I'm I'm gonna go with Burr. I know it's flow farfetched Bill Burr. No, we'll oh Wilbur Ross. I shortened his first. Bill Burr going with Ross celebrity now that Leo. He's not a target though. They made sure to say that he wasn't a target helping out because he's rich white. Okay. I'm gonna go Rando Rando. All right. We got him. So I have stone junior. Boy, Arken Manji on Rando jalousie. Of course, he Kush. Rando trump. Oregon Burr will for us. And you have Jordan Assange, Ivanka Manafort, superseding, indictments, Ericsson and Arango. That's a good team. Yeah. Love that. And you can you guys can pick whoever you want. You don't have to a couple thousand of you playing. So although there might be a couple thousand people that could be indicted. That's true. I wanted to bring that up. So you guys ready for sabotage. Yes..
"barbara mcquade" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"One of the most interesting parts is that he used that Ciprian Bank account as an intermediary and many months ago and fusion GPS transcripts that congress made public we learned that there were notes taken by Manafort on manafort's phone from the June twenty sixteen Trump Tower meeting that said used Cyprus as an intermediary. That's right. So perhaps this is how they got Russian money to the Trump inaugural, right? Through the Cyprus. Cyprus intermediary using cutouts in the US like patent in trader vessel Bergh and Cohen just rivers of money from all different forces. But what does it have to do with the Trump Tower meeting that Don jR, lied about? Well, we know that Manafort and clinic and patent were associates, and that they used Ciprian accounts to move money, and we also know that patent lobbied against or excuse me lobby to US congress on behalf of chicken, which no doubt included in Aurora Bacher a known Russian sympathizer who just lost his reelection bid in the Blue Wave. Thank you. Finally, we know of visited sky, presented her Magnitsky brief to Rohrabacher and at the Trump Tower meetings. So that's a lot of dots to connect speaks volumes. As to why this filing for sentencing update for Muller may have been made under seal instead of available to the public like Flynn and manafort's updates. So keep an eye on the patent case. He is the first person Muller's charged with upping foreign money into the Trump inaugural and don't forget who ran the inaugural fund. Tom Barack that's the guy who helped men for it. Get the job as Trump's campaign chairman in the first place. Wow. AG nice. Yeah. That's crazy. I love what you've done just a little bit that we know from that's already so many connections and Muller knows way more than that. Like, he's got home. I got there done. Yeah. When we know two percent. Yeah. But the the going with Huber's. That's crazy. You know? Hey, connect the dots. Their real real real beans. I just feel like it's crazy that we from the public information. We have so many connections. Yeah. Yeah. Like you said it's only the tiny tiny tip of the iceberg. So are you guys ready for the fantasy indictment league? Yes..
"barbara mcquade" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"So the court knows and can consider that cooperation during any upcoming sentencing hearings. So let me tell you a little bit about Sam patent. Sam Patten is GOP lobbyist. He's a Manafort associate Cambridge, Analytica employees. So this guy chase could be ration- gold mine. Yeah. Super hor for the trumps gold mine for Muller's team. Right. He admitted in his charging documents that he helped foreign donors give money to Donald Trump's inaugural fund. It was this is like the first evidence that we had of that. Sam patent worked the same pro-putin Ukrainian faction that Paul Manafort worked for like, I said it was called the opposition bloc. And he was allegedly the boss of constant Kalinic and Kalinic is the other guy named in the Manafort indictment parts of them. There's so many he was the go between for Manafort and Russian oligarch that Manafort owed money to all all the gara- Pasqua. We've we we all know this der Pasqua sanctioned, aluminum magnate, and he certainly is sanctioned the, but here's the thing. The US treasury department under Trump is now working to lift though sanctions by allowing him to divest controlling share in his aluminum company. Roussel the problem is he selling those shares back to the Kremlin through. So the good news, though, is that we found out on Friday from the New York Times that congress is examining the treasury's decision to lift sanctions on der Pasca, and it looks like the Dem's and congress are laying the groundwork to block the lifting of sanctions beginning with Schumer filing, a resolution to disapprove of the sanctions disapprove of the move by Trump Trump's. Treasury department to lift those sanctions Mnuchin is the guy who is in charge of the treasury. It's also of note that we learned this week that boy Arken as we talked about before the ex Russian spy that told time magazine Manafort had had paid back in nineteen million dollar debt to der Pasqua Meg giving him private briefings on the Trump campaign one of which was caught on video by sex coach nasty ribka who is now in a Thai prison if you remember still, Yep. Wow. She's gotta hearing coming up this month. Okay. That's where she is Sam Patten and Kalinic started their own lobbying firm in twenty fifteen and were paid a total of over a million smackers for lobbying for Yanukovych is chief of staff. Let's see lawyer watch can live can paid both metaphor an patent for lobbying for him and Unika vich and Yanukovych is the pro-putin Ukrainian candidate Paul Manafort helped Elec Elec. Kushtia through tactics. Eerily similar to those used in the Trump campaign, including a smear tactic against his opponent Timoshenko, encouraging people to lock her up that whole thing started. They were successful in that one. Yep. They lost eventually, and he was overthrown. He fled to Russia. But. Got that far on a wheelchair. Yeah. She was really sick so patent basically, lobbied lobbied, the US congress on behalf of live auction without registering under fair, but most importantly is what patented in relation to Trump's inaugural fund. Right. It's widely known that there were excessive amounts of money in Trump's inaugural. And there's no way his Scott Baeau high school marching band. Ted Nugent, amateur talent show of an inaugural costs more than Obama's. There's just no way Obama had beyond say, you know, like in here, you know, here. He's got like, you know, I don't even remember people that you've never heard of. Houten is this whole thing is some of the strongest evidence of foreign money was funneled into the inaugural fund because he used a cut out to transfer fifty thousand dollars of Russian money into the Trump inaugural fund by purchasing quote, unquote, inaugural tickets for himself Kalinic, live Avakian and another Ukrainian patent used the lobbying firm. He started with Kalinic to purchase the tickets through a cut out. And then the firm was reimbursed by fifty thousand dollar wire from the Ukrainian oligarch Ciprian Bank account. That's bizarre. Yeah. That's how they were getting Russian money into. And this is just one example and his whole sentencing update is now filed under seal, and we know Trump's inaugural is being investigated pretty heavily pretty hardcore. So all very interesting..
"barbara mcquade" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"Sorry jackson. You're cool on throw it on the wall. Kelly also goes on to say that he got Trump did not pull troops out of Afghantistan, which we also learn about in detail in Woodward's fear highly recommend, well, I guess they had highly recommend that book. I recommend for the insights not so much for the sensical nature of it hard to follow. But again, I. He might have on that on purpose to just illiterate. When it's like to have to deal with Trump. Yeah. There's really good insights in there. Like, you said if that's not what happened to you Pulitzer prize winning motherfucker, he's getting older. I'm just kidding. It's great. It's obviously great amazing reporting. He gets people like John Kelly, obviously contributed to the book Rex Tillerson, probably enter. Yeah. Bannon order for sure yes. Weird players interview. Yeah. Yeah. But regarding pulling troops out of Afghanistan it now still looks like Trump is going to do. So anyway, but no military higher ups have confirmed that that's what's happening so far. So who knows Kelly also tried to separate himself from the family separation policy? He said that sessions did it basically he says, quote, what happened was stripped session. What happened? Woodhead down tell you story. What happened was I h your hamster what? It's a cat me. Sorry. What I was like, wait. Say to me. So what happened was is his quote was Jeff Sessions. He was the one that instituted zero tolerance process on the border that resulted in both people being detained and the family separation. Kelly said, quote, he surprised us and quote, Supra surprising at all. Fucking that makes it sound like fun. Just wasn't. Yeah. So yeah. Basically in the interview just confirms that deed. Probably did not have a great time doing things like accomplishing things in that position. Spent most of his time mitigating things that Trump was trying to do. And when we think about that anonymous op-ed that came out months ago that everyone was trying to figure out who wrote it, you know, it was very much in that same vein. Yeah. He was one of the guys that was there trying to keep him in check just running interference. Basically. Exactly. Yeah. Guys are gone now. They've pulled the goalie so to speak. Yeah. And Kelly winds of getting asked why he stayed so long eighteen months in the White House, despite such huge policy differences, all of those clashes of personalities the just daunting task of being around him constantly, dealing with Trump's maniacal ignorance, he said, simply duty military people. He said don't walk away duty. Mm always gonna laugh at duty. Good. We do that in the military. I was a thing. You got digit night duty laugh when you can. Thank you for that. Interesting. Wow. So he's gone by. Yup. But everyone's leaving. Did you see someone else from the Pentagon is leaving like the Pentagon chief of staff is leaving or something God? Yeah. Probably leaving. I I figured after Mattis left a bunch of high up officials in the Pentagon would go with them. I'm not sticking around for this shit that Titanic moment when like they're on the lifeboats already. And it's about to just go up and then come down like last part of the we're in that. All Turkish ship. Yes. But yes, here's a gift for that. I just can't describe it. Well, I know what you're talking about that after breaks in half and standing up on its hardy broken half, and you have to kind of jump ship at that point. Because it's there's nowhere to stay on. Yeah, metaphor. Yes. The factory Kevin Sweeney. Pentagon chief of staff resigns. I mean, not nice nice remembered Pentagon chief of staff, all right, guys. So four months ago on August thirty first Samuel patent pleaded guilty to violating the foreign agents. Registration act also known as faira by not registering as a foreign lobbyist for the opposition block. That's a pro Putin party in Ukraine where he worked for the chief of staff to victory Eneco vich. We we. We we covered this extensively when it happened and four months after he pleaded guilty and began cooperating with special counsel Robert Muller's team. Sam Patten is in the news. Again, Muller has filed a status report to the court under seal, which is a little unusual considering these sorts of filings for folks like Flynn and Cohen were not filed under seal they were filed publicly just redacted updates like this usually consist of how much and in what ways a witnesses cooperating..
"barbara mcquade" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"Glad you did. All right. Welcome back. Hot notes. All right. So today for hot notes Jordan has a story about outgoing chief-of-staff. John Kelly's thoughts on Trump. But first Jalil you have a story about House Republicans facing the Dem's taking control. I do. This is super hot notes really quick article, so axios publish this on Thursday, and it's called House Republicans new reality, which is a really big title. But basically what they're saying is that the House Republicans are lawyering up, and we already know or knew that the Democrats were hiring lawyers. Now, the House Judiciary committee posted on a popular Capitol Hill jobs board, they're also seeking and investigative counsel jobs board like Craigslist. Hey, I want to check it out. I wanna find that post. This new president on there. Let's make it. That's great. We need hackers. So specifically they're looking for quote and attorney with several years of investigative or litigation experience. And according to source on the hill specific request for litigation experience hints that the house GOP tipping the possibility of impeachment proceedings just ads like anyone anyone anyone do lawyer stuff. Please who helped who can anyone take anyone? And is the most general terms requirement looking for.
"barbara mcquade" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"I didn't know what came from stolen shit. Sorry. They're seizing all assets for the movie I'll proceed sorry. Proceeds assets. Well, they are I guess assets. Jostling to Capri owes proceeds no the movie made money. Right. So they're taking the hell do they even do that logistically that's like 'cause it goes to so many different people in places. Yeah. I don't take what they can. I guess. Yeah. Like any other kind of what do you call it when they repo us, take whatever they can get I guess. Like seize royalties from this point moving forward that wouldn't be too hard. But are they like going back and taking people's money? I doubt that okay? I doubt that they're probably just if there's any kind of. You know net profits from the movie, they seize those because it was funded with laundered money, right? But wolf of Wall Street. Yeah. What Meyer you right? Take the movie is a documentary now. And it kinda was and the food is involved and Leo weird. Crazy. He was a weird guy is an interesting clicking cares about the environment. Weird sort of way. Impressed. Also, Cambridge Analytica popped up in the news Friday, we with an update to the story about our US State Department, awarding the parent company of Cambridge Analytica called SEAL a no bid five hundred thousand dollar contract to counter ISIS terrorist propaganda. That means they awarded this contract without opening bidding to the public. They just gave it to them are US State Department under Trump. So we'll keep our eyes on that story for you. And what we're Republicans calling big news this week. A video of Alexandria, Qaiseer Cortez surfaced, showing her dancing when she was in college and Republicans lost their minds aerial. I cannot let this dance happen. Ren McCormack made a lot of people stop and think I object to that kind of music. I think you know, why? Because people fork eight two so Republicans hate dancing, and this is a scandal to them the video shows AOC doing a dance challenge where people would reenact dances for movies, and she chose to do the breakfast club weed smoking dance, which is actually a better scandal. But Republicans aren't cool enough to know that they were all stoned in that scene. So they had all my dupage. So let's see if I have this straight. Rod dogging porn stars. While your wife is a home with your new baby. Paying a woman one point six million dollars to get an abortion grabbing people by the pussy, all cool, but dancing, dancing is bad. God there dancing. We are going up to my room right now by Dr shook house. Take me play. I don't know guys. This is right up there with that tan suit grey Poupon the war on Christmas. Hillary's emails. It's it's mustard mustard. It's so sad to watch. And try to fabricate scandals out of FinnAir, apparently all we have to do to trigger Trump supporters as dance..
"barbara mcquade" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"But basically what it says is at some point our democracy will be hanging by a thread during a constitutional crisis and a Mormon will come riding on a shiny white horse out of the west to Washington DC, and we'll save the country from certain demise. What we're saying is that if if Mitt Romney we were saying that if Mitt Romney won his Senate seat in Utah. He could go to DC and recruit enough Republican senators to reach the sixty seven votes needed to remove him from office if he's impeached in the house so Romney would need to. To win the Senate seat. He's done that. And now with this op Ed he's made clear he doesn't like Trump calling December one of his worst months for Trump. And basically, he's shit president. So his opinion is clear there's been a lot of folks saying we shouldn't praise Romney he's an a hole, and we're not we're simply saying the white horse prophecy still stands. Yeah. And didn't he recently say that he likes supports the wall after he put out the op-ed? Yeah. He's what's the deal with Romney? I feel like he could still save us and support the wall. But I mean what an a hole it's not a giant fan of that article. 'cause there's just like championing all of these quote unquote wins that are super GOP oriented wins that generally really fucking suck. But because he's like put troops sucks. People are like. Yeah. Romney. And he's he's still a Republican. You're disagree with everything that he stands forever in the history of the universe. My enemy's enemy though. Right. Well, I mean if anyone can get any senators to turn on him on Trump. It would be Romney. That's what we've been saying. Yeah, they need someone on their side for it to work. I'm just wary of people supporting him because of him taking down Trump or something. And then he's because he'll probably run for president. And then if he wins, then it's just going to be more honestly of like the same policy not the same policy but same same GOP policy. Yeah. But he he was correct about Trump being a piece of shit. You're right. I don't agree with his politics. Don't ask me, but could convince enough Republicans to Trump if it comes to that you can read the op Ed in a link will send out in the newsletter for for patrons this week. And speaking of Jordan, you just finished uploading all the past newsletters to the patron page, so you have access to those now. Yeah. If you're not a patron, and you wanna see every single article we've ever reference on this show in the last year, then become a patron, it's pretty cheap as our at our lowest level, and it's all listed there for you. Yup. All sorts of stuff. Let's see Thursday. Day Muller filed a motion in concord management case. This is one of the entities that was indicted by Muller, one of the Russian entities, and they've been fighting a battle to to send Muller's discovery back to Russia and in this filing Muller asks to file its opposition to concord management's motion to compel under seal because the government's opposition discusses a matter that's occurring before the grand jury. So it's secret. We'll keep you posted on this case, you can put beans on Muller winning all of his motions against concord management. We'll have a photo of that filing in the photos, we sent out in the newsletter. So check out that it's just a paragraph that says we wanna file this under motion 'cause there's some secrets shit going down. Yeah. Thanks Bob Mueller. If we had a fantasy league for Muller's motions it wouldn't be fair because he would always win predictable. I'm gonna put all of his motions on my team. And I will win everything. What is under motion mean legal legal, jargon wise under seal under seal under motion means under seal. No, I did I say under motion. Yes. Oh motion under seal. Got it. Aunts to file the motion under civil under motion. He's never heard that before. Eighties dance..
"barbara mcquade" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"We we reported this back in June of this year when we learned that Kush purchased four floors in the New York Times headquarters building and got seventy four million dollars more than he paid for the property now Kush at that time was head of the company Kush, real estate, whatever it is. And he said he failed to report the loans on his financial disclosures because he didn't have an obligation to pay it back. So therefore, he didn't have to report it as little alone as we all know, don't Deutsche Bank has been fined several times on a variety of legal issues, including seven point two billion dollar fine for mortgage abuse and a four hundred twenty five million dollar fine related to money laundering in twenty. Sixteen in two thousand seventeen respectively. So it's important to note that these investigations are separate from Muller's investigation. But it's known that special counsel is investigating Kushner's business dealings as well. So there's probably some overlap. There's a van diagram. Hell, yeah. Then the Saudis get involved in so many angles there to the cutter he's got a lot of money from a lot of people Also Sunday John Kelly painted a dim portrait of Trump in the Los Angeles Times interview, he did and Jordan we'll have that for us in hot notes. Then Monday Muller filed a sealed update in the Samuel patent case. And I'll go over that later in the show because this is really important, and it sort of slipped under the radar Also Monday, Elizabeth Warren announced her bid for the presidency in twenty twenty nine surprise. Yep. She's going to get a committee together and see if it's a feasible thing for her. How do you guys feel about that just off the top? I mean, if I get a free you DNA test out of it on cool. We all get twenty. Twenty-three? Liz Blackie will have the same experience on their always back to the same thing. I think it's great. I want to see a giant huge diverse field in in the election. Like the candidates in the primary, and like I said, and I've said this a million times fight like hell for your candidate. But then whoever wins vote for that person. Exactly. Exactly. Just do that. Yeah. I agree throughout the feelers and all different kinds of people. See what sticks what we need to do to take over the White House. Everybody's generally a pretty cool person. You're going to be running on the democratic ticket. We don't have any giant holes. Yeah. Not not right now. I guess some people would base differ. Wieners, gone the bars. Pretty low though Frank was the last democrat. No, you have to do is is better than Trump. That's true. That's true bars low, it is also the Daily Beast spoke to a person familiar with Trump's legal teams strategy for fighting the Muller report on Monday, saying they intend to cite executive privilege, particularly in the obstruction case, we all -ssume that the mole report will be in part about obstruction of Justice and could involve testimony from White House staff who heard Trump talk about why he fired Komi such as Don Mcgann Arinze Priebus mall, but according to Giuliani, Trump can claim executive privilege and bar Muller from sharing that testimony with anyone outside the executive branch, reminding us that he can only give his report to the attorney general and only the attorney general can decide if that report moves forward to congress. However, we now have the ski report roadmap that was recent released from the Watergate case setting precedent that grand jury findings can be submitted directly to the House Judiciary committee, which is now chaired by Jerry, Nadler, democrat, so put some beans on that. And later on in the show, I'm gonna talk to bar mcquaid about that that kind of path that aims way forward. She so good. Then Tuesday Mitt Romney wrote a scathing op Ed in the Washington Post about Trump being giant piece of shit, basically. And that falls right into line with a scenario. We've been talking about for over a year. Now, we call it the or not the Komi twenty. Sorry, we call it the Romney twenty. It was the Komi six. Yeah. The Romney twenty Mormons referred to this as the white horse prophecy. We were we were notified by one of our Mormon listeners. This prophecy has been repudiated by the church of LDS..
"barbara mcquade" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"Guests, including former US attorney from the eastern district of Michigan and one of my favorite MSNBC contributors, Barbara mcquade, and we have a very special appearance from MARCY Wheeler of empty wheel. I'm so excited. She's joining us. We've been I've been wanting to come on and talk to us for a while. Now in hot notes today. Jordan's gonna tell us about John Kelly's parting words on Trump in L A times interview. Je Lisa has a story about House Republicans looking for a lawyer, and I'm gonna talk about a secret Muller filing in the Sam patent case. So guys, how was your New Year's would you do? It was great. I feel like I'm having deja vu. We didn't talk about New Year's we talked about Christmas last time. Right. I did the same thing. Netflix. Yeah. I watched a bird box. Oh, jalek it. I heard. It was amazing. Yeah. I hosted a near show at madhouse, which was really fun. But it was kind of weird because every year the New Year's crowds actually are kind of shitty. Yeah. One of our waitresses. She described it, really. Well, she's like I think it's just because it's a bunch of people that wanna party, but they wanna sit down. This is your by the. Yeah, they just over pretty tight. But it was fun. Yeah. New Year's crowds are tight. Yeah. They're pretty tight. How's yours? Good. Did a show at the palace. Oh, yeah. They were loose. Af. Oh, good must be attorney Mace that they weren't sitting in their chairs. It was really fun. It was sold out. And we had the whole countdown and everything it was nice. Well, we have a few corrections for this week. First of all, I called Chuck Schumer. Chuck Grassley, I've done this a lot of times. I get my old white checks mixed up. Sorry about that. Amber wanted to remind us that the flu is very serious, and we seemingly dismissed it as something that could easily be detected in cured. And we spoke about the Guatemalan boy who died in border patrol custody last week. So thank you, amber. Well, reminded the flu is very serious. It's the elite eight in the NCAA tournament. So thanks to our sports fans for pointing that out civilian federal workers received a one point nine percent pay raise last year, not two point four percent. Which is what the military got. So thanks for reminding me, I got that raise. I should have known that. It was that. We don't we won't get anything this year. But you know, that's how the cookie crumbles. I guess a lot of people aren't even getting their paychecks. So that's a whole other story. Yeah. In back pay right? Like, some people aren't getting that at all. Yeah. Contractors who work for the government won't get anything. That's crazy. Yeah. It's ridiculous. Let's see. I said Steve king instead of Peter King. Who said that you know will only two kids have died member when you pointed that out, Jordan. Yeah. It was Peter King. Not Steve king, both assholes. But this was the Peter kind. It's been pointed out to me by someone in the know that it's pronounced German con not Herman Kahn. That's the father-in-law of vendors won- who was indicted by Muller's team. And he's also one of the guys at Alfa bank's. Thanks good. Looking out. We didn't really have a story about German con last week. But somebody's was felt that went down mentioned that because I always think of Herman Cain when I hear Herman Kahn. So this is better. Better German German caught on that's how he wishes name was pronounced. It. Sounds more regal. Yeah. Just hey, let us know outta you know, send us an Email. Hello, moe. She wrote if you've got any corrections or anything you want to talk about or you can tweet us mother. She wrote or go to our website Moshi rep dot com click contact and let us know about corrections. You may have all that being said we've a lot of news to get to this week. So let's kick it off with just the facts. All right, all the way back to Sunday guys. The Washington Post reported that federal prosecutors in New York have requested records from Deutsche Bank related to two hundred eighty five million dollar real estate loan. They gave Kushner and his family one month prior to the two thousand sixteen election..
What Michael Cohen’s Plea Deal Means for David Pecker
"We have more breaking news now this from the Wall Street Journal, confirming question just raised before we went to this commercial break. The Wall Street Journal is reporting tonight that David pecker the chairman of American media Inc which publishes the National Enquirer provided prosecutors with details about payments. Mr. Cohen, arranged with women who alleged sexual encounters with President Trump, including Mr. Trump's knowledge of the deals joining our discussion now, Barbara mcquade a former federal prosecutor. She's a professor of law at the university of Michigan and MSNBC legal contributor, Harry Lipman former federal prosecutor and deputy assistant attorney general under President Clinton. And Ron Klein is with us former senior aide to President Obama and a former chief counsel to the Senate Judiciary committee. I saw David Kay Johnston there, but someone left him out of my little teleprompter here. David Johnston Pulitzer prize. Is winning reporter who is running the organization DC report dot org, which studies the Trump investigation Barbara mcquade I to you this information just reported by the Wall Street Journal that David Packer who was clearly identified in yesterday's proceeding of Michael Collins. Guilty plea is now it's confirmed by the Wall Street Journal. He is already cooperating with the prosecutor and had already cooperated with the prosecutor before they even made that presentation yesterday, which seems to make sense when you read every part of that presentation. This is very significant news. I think because I think one of the scepticisms of what Michael Cohen had to say is just. You know, he's talking out of his own self interest. You would need to corroborate what he's saying with other witnesses and now to have David pecker someone who is speaking against his own self interest to have provided that information I think is strongly corroborative. And if as you said he implicates President Trump as well. This is really a huge development is not just Michael Cohen with an ax to grind trying to save his skin. It's now corroborated by two witnesses, and chances are they've got documentation that supports that as well. So very significant piece of news there claim the president today telling Fox News, something kind of about his knowledge of the payments when he was asked about, did you know about the payments? He said later later we have no idea what that was supposed to mean. But here's David pecker according to the Wall Street Journal saying that President Trump was part of arranging the payments and that the President Trump had knowledge of the deals and knowledge of the deals being arraigned. That's right. Lawrence. I think your introduction made such important point, which is we know so much more about this today than we did yesterday, but to paraphrase Bill pops on, but not half as much as we're gonna know tomorrow. I mean. Robert Muller knows a lot of things. We don't know yet thousands, tens of thousands of pages for Michael Cohen's office months of investigation. It's starting to come to light. Now, the scope of it is is really quite stunning, but but there's still a lot here. We don't know. All we do know is it's going to point a very bad direction for the president. He clearly lied to the American people. He clearly lied anyone who he talked to about it and and you know, we don't have to witnesses crops and the fact they directed people to commit a crime. That's very serious piece of business with a lot of unknown stuff. Still out there. David, Kate Johnston, you've been falling following Donald Trump and his circle for longer than any of us. I think the easiest prediction you could have made for us tonight is that of course, David pecker is going to cooperate with federal prosecutors Wall Street Journal has beat us to even making it as a prediction. They've got it as already underway. Well, in other people are going to step forward. Now, Donald always been able to beat back law enforcement, beat back grand. Jury's compromise people get people to corrupt things in the government to advance his interests. And now all these other people, understanding Donald Trump is only loyal to Donald are going to start abandoning him. And this is a dangerous time for our country because Donald's Radic behavior is likely to become much much more erratic. He's going to have a lot of internal conflict over this because remember in his delusional mind, he is greater than all of us where idiots were stupid..
U.S. to rest its case against Manafort with Chicago bank
"Prosecutors in the Paul Manafort trial plan to rest their case tomorrow. But there's one part of the case. The prosecution has been slowly sort of strangely building that we now know is apparently going to be the finale it's about a little Bank in Chicago called the federal savings Bank in two thousand sixteen in two thousand seventeen that Bank loaned Paul Manafort sixteen million dollars. This is the guy in charge of that Bank and ultimately responsible for those Manafort metaphor loans. His name is Steven coke right around the time that he was loaning away a huge portion of his little Bank to Paul Manafort Mr Kok was reportedly seeking to become secretary of the US army, including calling the Pentagon to ask for briefings to prepare himself for a possible job. None of this ever really made any sense until this week in court when prosecutors in the Manafort trial produced as evidence and Email from Paul Manafort telling gates that basically expected this Bank guy to be considered for army secretary. So. Drinking writes, the chairman of a presidential campaign appearing to be selling the process, the promise of a job to run the US army in exchange for money. Fascinating. Lurid. But why is this part of the special counsels case against Paul Manafort? I mean, yesterday the prosecutors updated the list of evidence they plan to present to include what appears to be more evidence about this offer. Now, we're told to former employees of that Bank are going to give testimony tomorrow testimony for which they were granted immunity on top of that late today, the government added yet another name to their witness list for their last day, and it is a third employee from that same Bank as far as we can tell. Paul Manafort is not on trial for his relationship with this Bank president. So why is the government so interested in putting this on the record? And why are they doing this in what is literally going to be the final hour of their case? Joining us now is Barbara mcquade, former US turn in Michigan who's been sitting in the courtroom everyday, watching the proceedings. It's great to see you. Thank you for being here. No, thanks Rachel. It's been a fun adventure. Do you have any insight into how this is going to wrap up and how this secretary of the army small Bank in Chicago stuff. Might fit into it? Well, it is part of the Bank fraud scheme in the indictment. You know, there's kind of two big categories of of charges here. One is the tax fraud where the under reported is income, and the other is all of these Bank frauds. Today. We saw some of the evidence in the other Bank for us. It's really been quite dry, very methodically. Going through lots of records, showing inconsistencies in submissions that he overstated his income and understated his debt in order to get these loans. But what's interesting is tomorrow, it seems like they could probably do the same thing. If you look at the indictment, it says that the federal savings Bank loan was obtained by submitting a false profit and loss report, and so seems easy enough to show that on the documents. And so I think it'll be really intriguing to hear from these witnesses. Two of whom as you pointed out have received immunity, we dig it just a little taste of this during the testimony of Rick gates who did testify a little bit about this aspect of the case. And so I guess we'll. Get a little more of it tomorrow. If I were the prosecutor, I would do everything in my power to keep Trump's name out of this
"barbara mcquade" Discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe
"Muller in February, agreeing to cooperate in exchange for a guilty plea on reduced charges of conspiracy and lying to the FBI charges against gates carry a possible ten year sentence, but prosecutors could recommend less time than that. Join us. Now to experts who've been watching the Manafort trial from inside. The courtroom former US attorney and MSNBC contributor, Barbara mcquade and from outside the courthouse in Alexandria, Virginia, NBC news, intelligence and national security reporter can Delaney and Barbara. Let me start with you. First of all, just the vibe, the atmosphere in the courtroom as you had these two men who work so closely together for so many years. One turning on the other. Yeah, there was definitely a buzz in the courtroom when the government called Rick gates to come in. He came to the stand. He seemed to me visibly-nervous. He spoke very quickly. He did not make contact with Paul Manafort as you said. There were several sidebars during his testimony, and he was sort of just sort of sit awkwardly, look, straight ahead. Whereas Paul Manafort look directly at Rick gates during the testimony came out that their dynamic was maybe a little different than I hit appreciated before he described it as much employer employee relationship gates had met Paul Manafort when he was an intern and he said they never socialized together. The only time he went to Paul manafort's house was when he reported there to do work for him. So definitely some tension between the two, but nonetheless he is getting his story out so can do the prosecution get what it wanted yesterday out of Rick gates that he presents stories that he present evidence that would incriminate all metaphor..
Opioids Caused 1 in 5 Deaths of Young People in the US in 2016
"Self driving vehicles while education will create a checklist that companies need to check off it'll be mandatory to make sure that they are addressing a number of safety issues including cybersecurity which is a number another very important issue when you're talking about connected cars peter says that legislation now headed to the full senate floor looking to raise awareness about opioid addiction among the employers was the goal of a discussion of on yesterday's agenda up at the mackinac island policy conference keynoting the forum was barbara mcquade the former us attorney for the eastern district of michigan who's now a law professor at u of m becoming addicted to opioids strikes every demographic group many people get started because they were prescribed opioids after surgery or injury or dental work even and we need to invest in that kind of treatment we need employers to invest in that kind of treatment by giving people the time off they need to get either the treatment they need or to help family members get the treatment that they need mcquaid says opioid addiction cost an estimated one trillion dollars annually in treatment and enforcement costs as well as lost productivity couple of rain delays for the tigers last night down a commerical park as they took on the angels in that four game series we'll check sports next doubledouble genie's time three fourteen i'm at walgreens because spring is in the.
"barbara mcquade" Discussed on WJR 760
"Talk with one of their experts learn more at americanmetalroofscom i'm mark mitchell wgn traffic and weather first on the fives from the jr weather center mostly cloudy skies force here today if you flurries even a couple of light snow showers possible high's mid forties better chance of snow overnight into early friday one to three inches of accumulation possible from the weather channel i'm your allergies ken boone on news talk seven sixty wjr the frank beckmann show news talk seven sixty wjr are former us attorney for the eastern district of michigan barbara mcquade now professor barbara mcquade at the university of michigan with us to shed some light on the law and i mean what better better research could we have that a law professor to help keep our audience the best informed i ask you and and next topic i want to switch over here and shift gears away from posse comitatus in the national guard and and talk about special prosecutor special counsel robert muller who apparently no longer considers or dozen consider president trump as a target of his investigation but only a subject some say this is a bombshell that it that it shows that that the president is not under investigation for anything to do with collusion with russia others are saying not so fast can you sort of translate all of this legalese forest place.