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GSMC Basketball Podcast Episode 550: Legendary 2020 Hall of Fame Class

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GSMC Basketball Podcast Episode 550: Legendary 2020 Hall of Fame Class

"Get your ears wrapped around the golden state media concepts basketball. Podcast all the scoop. You need to know from college basketball to the nba and even march madness. Zoos of your rising stars topics on and off the hard work. This is the golden state media concepts basketball podcast. Thank you for tuning into the gmc basketball. Podcast brought to you by the gmc podcast network. I'm your host steven melendez. And i'm gonna be bringing you the latest and greatest in basketball news from around the nba. Welcome back everyone to your favorite basketball podcast. We've got a lot to get into the playoffs right around the corner. We had a legendary hall of fame. Class get inducted into the naismith hall of fame and it's exciting stuff going on right now. Man i mean i. I'm just like. I got the goosebumps coming up man just thinking about these playoffs. The playing tournament all the exciting match ups that we got. We still got some games juggling around where we're gonna be talking about that as well to to decide seedings. There's a lot going on in the nba with still only two games remaining. Some teams only have one and that's one of the things i love the most about the nba. It never ceases to give you suspense. And that's what we got right now. We've got a lot of teams still fighting for where they're going to be in the playoffs. Which teams are going to be taking on in the first round which side of the bracket or they're going to be on. There's a lot of jostling going around. Even miami heat are at the moment on the milwaukee bucks. Try to hold onto a fifth seed but it doesn't look too good they don't even have jimmy butler planes and the box have brought on the full force to try to take on the heat and play them in the first round. So we'll see how that goes but let's just get right into what we're going to be discussing in today's show kind of talked about a little bit but in the first segment we're gonna be talking about the legendary twenty twenty hall of fame class. Kobe bean bryant tim. The fundamental dunkin kevin big ticket garnett and many many more. We're gonna get into all of those inductees of the legendary twenty twenty hall of fame class in that first segment the nba play internment. I'm going to be giving you my predictions for that plane tournament in the second segment we got a lot of very interesting ups. Of course all these teams fought very hard to make into this exclusive terminal exclusive. But you know what i mean like. They're the ones that made their or enough to get there for some for sure and third segment. We'll talk biggest games before the playoffs. Like there's still a lot like i said man. There's still a lot of games that are being played that can decide. Who even who's gonna make it in the plane. So it's a lot of games going on. I wanna talk about each of those. You know what they mean for each team you know whether they got win lose like like you know what they would prefer in those games. And that's we're to be talking among the third segment and then the fourth segment. I know i did something pretty much. Just like this about two episodes ago. But i'm going to be doing a top ten teams heading into the playoffs. Because i feel like there's a lot of teams that are really gearing up and playing their best basketball right now and i want to do something like i don't wanna talk about like just a normal power rankings. List the top ten teams in the nba this season. That's not what i'm doing. I'm talking about which have really been turning it up over the last week two weeks before the playoffs start. And that's what. I'm gonna be talking about that last segment so without further ado. Let's get started with the legendary twenty twenty hall of fame class. I mean the names on this list and of course. I'm not you know huge on college basketball. So i'm not. I didn't know much about coaches like kim mulkey barbara stevens eddie. Sautin patrick baumann of the fiba fiba executive. I didn't know much about him. But of course my research one of to look up to see you know. Why are these people in the hall of fame and man. It is a mega class of course headlined by the the big three of kobe. Bryant tim duncan and kevin garnett and of course cannot forget the legendary to mika catching as well of the wnba making into the hall of fame as well You also got tom. Jonah vich player coach executive. You got a little bit of everything there. He's had a legendary korean the nba. And we're gonna be talking about all these players. I was kinda wondering like am. I going to start off with the big heavy hitters. And then i'll just trickle down and talk about the other ones are not too familiar with and you know what. Yeah let's do it. I mean number one. I want to talk about. Is kobe. bean brian. Of course tragic. You know him being taken away from everyone way too soon. He had so much more to give after basketball. We were seeing a lot of it. Even in those two years he was retired. We were already seen what kobe bryant was going to bring to the world after basketball. I mean the man is a legend one of the best players of all time. And it's only right to put him into the hall of fame already like he deserves the eighteen time all star two times scoring champion five time. Nba champion fifteen time all mba. Twelve time all defense and it just goes on and on with his accolades even the mvp award in two thousand seven two thousand eight. You know many say that. That's not enough for a guy of kobe kobe. Bryant's caliber which. I absolutely agree. I mean the man is one of the best players of all time. Is you know the face of the nba post michael jordan era. And it's just. He brought so much to the games brought so much to a lot of young players. You know watching him and and looking up to him as as they were growing up in a lot of those players in the nba. Today and talk about guys. Like kyrie irving damian lillard lebron james of course all can you pretty much every single player in the nba. Right now. we're in some way or form inspired by kobe bryant because of his work ethic his will to want to win it just always so evident single time. He stepped out on that court. And like i said man it. Just it just hurts. You know you know it. Obviously her when it happened and it took a while for things to just kind of you know. Get a relatively back to normal. Even though i'm i'm a miami heat fan not even a los angeles lakers fan but all in all i am a basketball fan and when you lose someone as big as obviously doesn't matter of course you you. You know the tragic deaths of everybody that was there but you know of course like kobe. Bryant touched all of our hearts throughout his. What twenty. well how. How long would it be playing. Hurry not gonna tell me here. He's gonna make me count. No no twenty years there. You go okay. I sought to in twenty years that he played in the nba. He touched everyone's hearts in some way shape or form whether it was us bashing him for being a ball log or eventually people obviously gushing over him and his incredible ability to do whatever you needed on the court and it's just he was so much fun to watch obviously super annoying to watch also because he was just so good. And i remember those years when d- way was finally considered one of the best players in the nba. I mean happened kinda early. Third year in the nba already won a championship. But you know he was considered in that upper echelon and there were so many times in coby would have some really good battles but most of the time. Kobe will come out on top. Because i know when i talk about all time shooting guards lists. I never put debate over coding. I'm just. I'm not that blinded to think that kobe is worse than the wing. Wait it's. I'm just not fun to watch those two battle of out time and time again. Kobe that buzzer beater in los angeles off that glass into the three point. I'm sure everyone knows that when over d. wade and wade even tribute to him you know after he made that kind of same type of shot against the warriors In i believe it was a second to last season or his last season. One of those and i. It's just it's hard to really put into words how much kobe bryant means to the game of basketball to everybody who's associated with it because i mean it's just he's that good man the black mamba and he was that great of a competitor and you know and that's how he touched so many players just hearts he he was always competing always trying his hardest and that earned him the respect of so many guys and of course going out there and showing it as well i mean. What can we talk about some of his ridiculous that lines. I mean thirty five points a game in two thousand five. Two thousand six season played eighty games. Thirty five points a game absolutely re. I don't think anybody's no-one has averaged that many points per game since you got and then follow that up with thirty one point. Six point per game season right after that didn't average less than twenty five points a game the next six seasons and was just a monster. I mean obviously after that he had some the achilles problem and And then of course the sixty point game he had at the end to just kinda cap off his career. The only way. Kobe bryant ken And just in all in all new appreciate everything that he brought to the game you know and just you just gotta send you respect man the guy. The guy was baller one of the best players of all time i. I'm like borderline putting them top. Ten things are so many great players out there. Maybe i'll do something like that later on another episode but He's borderline like he might make it into my top ten tenth or ninth. He's like right there. Because i mean yeah. The guy was just that good so kobe bryant finally hall of famer well-deserved and rest in peace men. Next we got. Tim duncan the big fundamental. I mean this guy was just as consistent as they come. I mean nobody. And i mean nobody. I don't care who you put up there. Nobody was as consistently successful as tim. Duncan over hill over their entire careers. Tim duncan won three one championships. In three separate decades three separate decades. He became an all star even in his second to last season. He was an all star in his rookie season. The man was just always a baller and something that i didn't realize about him. Not only. is he a fifteen time all star five time. Nba champion fifteen time all nba. But how forget that. This man was also a ridiculous fifteen time all defensive team how did i forget that on top of two time. Mvp three-time finals mvp. I mean it's the the the stats. The accolades are absolutely ridiculous. And i actually recently saw an article that talked about tim. Duncan's case for the greatest player of all time. Now when i was looking at that i was like. I don't know about greatest of all time but when you really think about it like when i said what i said just now that nobody has had the same sustained success over this kind of period of time this man play eighteen nineteen seasons. Nobody was a successful throughout their entire career. As tim. duncan was nobody so there is a case there because i mean not only was he successful but he was wanna be main. He was the key piece to that. Success i mean there is no other way to put an end to win five championships. Make your up there with the greats. And not only was he one of the most sound players in the post offensively but fifteen time all defensive team. He led those spurs teams to some of the best defensive seasons that probably will ever see and the fact that he also played all eighteen seats. Nine thousand nine seasons with the same team. Same kobe bryant. It was obviously huge as well to play. And he literally launched the spurs into a different stratosphere. They are now considered one of the best organizations in basketball and a lot of that has to do with. What tim duncan was consistently giving them season in season out. Obviously you've got to give the organization credit for keeping them there and keeping him there with that big three of tony parker and monitor nobly. That was huge bringing quiet leonard after making it like a semi big four and then winning that title over the heat which they really really wanted which you can. Of course i mean. They're that good. They were that good so even and honestly even later in his career. The man was still balling man. He was almost averaging a double double every single season. Of course as i was at one end this i guess for thirteen seasons this man average double double and then he obviously started going down a bit. I mean we started getting up there in age. Thirty four thirty five and and he started going. You know the the stats are going down a bit thirteen points and nine rebounds but it was still like right there and he had that one season that was just like i still remember that twenty twelve twenty thirteen season when he when he kind of looked. He was on the downslide. People are like. Is this the end of tim. Duncan he comes out and puts up eighteen points. A game almost ten just under ten rebounds three assists and two point seven blocks in sixty nine games that year. I mean like like my mind was absolutely bologne. When i saw that that year because it was that was his. What thirty six age season thirty six. And at that point he was already you know. His last two seasons were thirteen points. A game and fifteen points a game on nine rebounds a game under two blocks game. So you're figuring out this man that's it. It's the reign of tim. Duncan is over no surgery. He's got a low memorial the tank and he brought it out in that season. I mean it's just absolutely crazy. The best man was able to do that. And i mean. I remember those battles. He had those back to back years against miami he and it was. It was tough man. It was very tough. You know always at the edge of my seat because that team was so good and tim donkey was so incredibly sound and would always cause problems for chris. bosh. I remember like chris bosh had nothing on. Tim duncan absolutely nothing. It was it was endgame from the minute. The tip off happened and you know obviously you. You wished chris bosh would have been able to do a little bit more in that two thousand fourteen finals but at the same time you cannot deny the greatness that is tim duncan one of the best players of all time one of the top two three power forwards of all time. I don't know what i'm thinking. Go case it's like man. You're putting them up there against guys like michael jordan labron james and short like i mean if we're talking obviously full career which you know of course you are. He has a case he certainly has a case. It's just may dude. What a career for him to have to to even be in that discussion man. Because there's not a lot of big that are in that discussion to be one of the best players of all time. You know shaq had some thought but he you know he kind of took a little dip once once. He left the lakers even though he was still great player but it just tim duncan man so much respect the tim duncan love his hairstyle. Now with the don't know what you've got. The braids dreads are whatever you call it. But i'm absolutely loving that style. Lucky keep it forever. Tim duncan you look great so tim duncan everybody hall of famer next. We got kevin garnett the big ticket. I mean this guy changed. The league forbids the handles his guard like skills at the size that he was six eleven. The man was faster than some guards. More athletic than pretty much. Anybody in the league when he was playing one of the first players to come out as a from high school and and man what a career he had fifteen time all star four time rebounding champion won the championship in in two thousand eight with the celtics. He with nine time all nba player twelve time. All defensive team He when the defensive player of the year two thousand eight and the mvp in two thousand three two thousand four for the minnesota timberwolves. And that's we was for was with for most of his career. I mean the guy was absolutely killing it. His last four years in minnesota averaging twenty three points a game and like thirteen rebounds which is just absolutely ridiculous to go with about five assists. He was doing a little bit of everything he's really like. You're kind of like the player that i'm expecting bam out of bio turn into that. Do it all center that can handle like a guard but be as athletic as needed to cover one through five. That's kevin garnett was he was that dominant of a player. And then when an also it's that attitude not only did he have the skill but he had that attitude to like. I guess i should say there are all the way around like he had that crazy mentality to just you know he wanted to beat you and make you look bad doing and obviously when you have that kind of personality you need to have the skill to back it up. Obviously he had the skill but it was so much fun watching him do all those little things that he does to get people just so upset i like there was one move specifically that i that i remember watching them do so many times against miami heat. I'm trying was doing that. against everybody. wanna player gets like up in his body to like. Make sure that he doesn't get anywhere you know. Just playing tight. Defense kevin garnett with his hands down to his side and then lift them up in order to put his hands up in the air but as they're going up he made sure that it would hit the other player in the face. Just like oh. I'm not doing anything. I'm having my hands up man. What a crafty sly guy that he was so much fun to watch. And then averaging what once over one steal one block game almost pretty much almost two boxing game almost every other season so it's and the guy was just such a monster and then when he joined that boston celtics team each he was even though paul pierce was obviously the leader. Kind of like james came to the heat. Everyone knew it was still de. Wade's team because he's been that miami guy but so so. Obviously paul pierce. Was that boston. Celtics legend but kevin garnett came in and you automatically knew he was the best player on that team. There was no doubts about it. Poll paul pierce was great but he was not kevin garnett and that's ultimately what really elevated his career when he was able to join that celtics team in stride win the championship in that first season. Obviously they weren't able to win it again. I feel like they certainly could have but of course at that at that point. They're already on the wrong side of thirty but he was still great. Man i mean. He has his stats. Went down a bit. Because he had to share the load you know. But but that first season he was nineteen points nine rebounds over a steel over a block a game. Three point four six. the guy was still consistently very solid. Of course any went to brooklyn and then got traded a minnesota for his last few years which was kind of a great round circle thing where he kind of came back to the team that drafted him and it was just a legendary career. Kevin garnett a pain in my side whenever he would go against my miami heat and all those showdowns. They had with the boston celtics and was i. I just really wish that. I would have been like you know a big fan in his earlier years. Like two thousand to two thousand one two thousand and two thousand three two thousand six like he was still a crazy monster and you know. I just wasn't watching all of the nba that time. I was pretty much just primarily a miami heat fan. So i'd watch you know my occasional miami heat game and be like. Oh maybe he. But i was never a full on. Nba fan. Like i am now. I'm watching all the players and keeping track of. How are they doing this season. I wish i could have been like that back then because i would have been able to. Witness some greatness some hall of fame talent absolutely deserved and he caps off that big three of this hall of fame class but there are still some absolutely incredible talents throughout this Inductee list We got to meco catching from the wnba. She was an. Mvp ten time all star. She was also four time olympic gold. Medalist i mean. She had a great career averaged. What was it. Sixteen points seven rebounds. Three point three assistant game and she to make a catching man. I mean she was. I remembered like there. Were i not them nba. I just wanna put that out there. I'm sure you guys can kind of tell by my first couple sentences here about tom. Meek catching how ever. When i would listen about the nba. Which was brief. But every now and then kind of you know seeing what's going on over there one of the names that always stuck out with me. There was one. There was one lisa leslie. Wino- is like a crazy star. She's i think she's the hall of fame already. i'd be. i'd be super surprise. If she wasn't there was also diana to rossi. Those are two. But then another one to make a catches and i know that there are a lot that were that are better than to meek catching. There's a lot of legendary. wnba players that. i did not name there but to make a catching. Who's just one of those. That i always listen to and i mean she had a heck of a career was third overall pick that two thousand one draft legendary two thousand and one draft for the wnba should say mice. I should say as well Who had let me. Just go to a real quick People like lauren jackson. Who was i should say. One of the only international player in the wnba to win a an. Mvp one four. Those i would say pretty sure she went four. You also have ruth riley hunter in that draft fifth overall. I like that okay. Who wasn't there someone else in here. That was there there was someone else. I was sure of it. But i guess i cannot remember who it was but you had an incredible draft there and to make catching one of the best players on that draft played fifteen years in the nba had the highest shares in that draft as well and just had an incredible career. She absolutely deserves to be in the in the in the hall of fame. The basketball as myth hall of fame next we have rudy tomjanovich. Who had both a great career but also you know as a player but as a coach was absolutely incredible. I mean joined the houston rockets as an assistant coach for what seven or eight years nine years and then became the head coach. How did the first season. Because he was kind of added in mid way of the season when sixteen fourteen in his thirty games but then went fifty five and twenty seven the year after and then after that he went back to back championships. Let off course king the dream. You got Who was on that team. I wanna say oldest. I'm not big on those old teams. But i'm pretty sure i'm right on that oldest thorpe. You had a sam cosell. You had kenny smith. Come on like you got yet clyde drexler yet. Some great players but rudy tomjanovich certainly helped this team. Make it big in in those two seasons. And win back to back championships. I mean he had a heck of a career man. nine hundred forty. Three games coached five hundred. Twenty seven wins four hundred sixteen losses for a very solid win percentage of five of five fifty nine very solid career and also very solid playoff record to thirty nine for five sixty seven win percentage just consistently very good and then. He became the lakers coach for one year and then after that he retired. was inducted as a coach. Nati player but still as a player averaged seventeen points a game eight rebounds in the eighties and seventies and was just a very solid player so definitely deserves as well for rudy tomjonovich. Now we're going to go to some of those college coaches which i just wanna make sure you guys know. I've not very big on college. But i'm going to get into it anyways. So i we do have bowman who was a fiba executive helped grow the game internationally. So many different ways he served as a secretary general of fiba the basketball world governing body and then from two thousand three until we suffered of course that tragic heart attack at the youth olympics. One itis in twenty eighteen. He had his. I believe it was kids. Kind of being there is represents a as representatives and he did a lot for the game international. And you know. that's that's a big part of it. I mean it's a big reason why the mba has so many international players in the league. Right now bomb and had a big part in that and of course he began in europe. We were playing the game. He loved and any shared that love of the sport with the entire world so You gotta give it to battery bowman. The the the love of the game was obviously there and that's why he deserves to be in the naismith hall of fame next. We have kim. Mulkey who has had a ridiculous career at baylor. Three national championships are combined. Twenty one big twelve regular season and tournament titles she also achieved six hundred career. wins faster. what's going on here on. Just oh boy. I just took away. Kim mulkey own boy so she also reach. Apparently she reached the six hundred wins quicker than what anybody is that was saying. Yeah career win faster than any other division one men's or women's coach and the pinnacle of individual basketball honors of course named to the knees memorial basketball hall of fame class. Now i mean to make it to six hundred career wins faster than any other division one. Men's or women's coach. that's an. That's ridiculous honor. Aside from all of her crazy accomplishments of titles and regular season titles. I mean just all gets put together into her being one of the best coaches in college basketball and pretty sure anybody would say the same. So kim moltke in the hall of fame as well. We also have a division to coach in barbara stevens. Gotta give it to barbara stevens. The stick in the vision to and become only sick. One of only six coaches to amass at least a thousand career victories. A ridiculous group that that includes pat summitt. Tara van devere gino auriemma sylvia hatural in the one thousand wind club. I mean Just ridiculous look at this record in four. in a forty. Three years that she was coaching she had a thousand fifty eight wins and two hundred and ninety one losses that success. If i've ever seen it. And i mean to to just continuously be in division two and you know not kinda like seek to kind of go any higher like that that just show someone who is happy with what they're doing. And just does i level so Barbara stevens i mean. You also look at at what she did in the two thousand fourteen. What her twenty. Eight bentley team. Capped off a perfect season. Thirty five zero with a come from behind seventy three sixty five win over west. Texas am for the programs first ever emptied aa division two national championship. Ridiculous honor. i mean incredible career for barbara stevens and certainly deserves to be in the naismith hall of fame. And lastly we got was eddie sutton a man who had eight hundred and six wins and three final four appearances Any sutton now entering the hall of fame much deserved Ranks ninth all time with those eight hundred six victories. He's an eight time conference coach of the year and a two time recipient of the associated press national coach of the year award both in seventy eight and eighty six and now he is part of both the college basketball hall of fame and the naismith hall of fame certainly deserved an coach. Thirty seven seasons of division one coaching one. Seventeen regular conference regular season and tournament championships. And i just absolutely incredible Lead oklahoma state to a combined. Twenty six and twa tournament appearances in the thirty seven seasons. That's not easy to do in oklahoma city oklahoma state. Yes it's a big school but it's not one that is like guarantee to always make it to the tournament. Like those big programs like kentucky duke What's another one on nothing again. I'm terrible with college basketball. But regardless like those are the two that pop the kansas. I guess would be another one but still for sutton to be able to do that over. His years of coaching obviously shows that this man what he was doing and did at a high level for so many years thirty seven seasons to be exact so absolutely deserves to be in that twenty twenty hall of fame class Like i said legendary hall of fame class. That's so hats off to everyone that was inducted. In how great was it before. I sign off here for the segment. How beautiful was it for. Michael jordan people to be the one to present kobe bryant at the hall of fame and then for his daughter vanessa to wear his jacket and be on that stage with all those great You know just legends. It was it was a very beautiful moment. one i'll always remember and Yeah that's gonna wrap it up for the segment so make sure you stick around because when i come back on be talking about the nba play in tournament making my predictions which teams are going to end up in what scenes. Let's talk about that right after this. Are you looking for the very best. Nfl and college. Football podcast then check out the gsm see football. Podcast get the latest football news. Both on and off the field from the nfl draft to treats to the rumor mill to the nfl combines. They got you covered. That's gsm see. Podcasts dot com back slash football dash. Podcasts get updates. i'm college. Rivalries key insights and much much more. It's football talk the way you want it. This show and sleeps and breathes football. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on. Twitter visit. Yes. mc podcasts dot com for more info. Welcome back to the gsm basketball podcast. If you missed the last segment we talked about the legendary twenty twenty hall of fame class. i mean guys like kobe bryant kevin. Garnett tim duncan among other legends of the game that all contributed in major ways. I talked about all of them in the last segment. If you guys want to check that out please go ahead and do so. But now we're gonna be talking about the play in tournament. I might even a couple of predictions. If i am feeling it because yes i know i said that in the beginning because the now looking at the standings like man this thing can change in so many different ways and there are some games that i'm gonna be talking about in the next segment. That have a lot to do with that. So i looked talk about this plane. Like do you guys even like this new format of only the top six seeds being guaranteed and after that the seven through ten into this tournament to decide who's going to be the seventh and eighth seed and the way that it will like for me. I kinda like it. Because i like the fact that it makes teams have to push like normally a team like the bulls who were eleventh or ten. I think there were eleven or twelve for a while and they normally would not have had a chance to make that push for the eight seed but instead now all have they had to do was make a push for the seed and that made them trade for any code. Savage made things interesting. of course it didn't work out. They still eliminated from the playoffs and didn't do what they had to do. Down the stretch but now we know in the eastern conference. You got boston celtic charlotte. Hornets washington wizards and the indiana pacers. All locked into that play in tournament. Now we still don't know who's going to be seated there. I just i loved the competition part of it. The fact that all these teams were trying extremely hard to try to get in and even now teams like the la lakers are doing their hardest to try to not be in it to get one of those guaranteed spots. They're they're literally tied with the portland. Trailblazers have the same record but it. They are going to need a little bit of help important. They gotta lose a game because portland has a tiebreaker over. the lakers. so for me. I enjoy it. I enjoy just the the atmosphere of it just that you know that little bit that added towards the end because normally around this time either. We already know who's going to be in the playoffs. Or there's like one or two games that need to decide who's going to be the eighth seed or the even the seven seat but this year it change a lot of things now. It's like who's going to jostle for the eighth or ninth spot so that you know. The difference between eight and nine is huge. Which is what. We're seeing right now with the memphis grizzlies. And the golden state warriors if golden state right now is ninth which i absolutely hate. Because we want lakers vs golden state warriors. We want that that. That's tax that i don't know what you're talking about. You don't know what you're talking about. Just straight up because that would be incredible. Lebron james versus steph curry. And let me tell you. One game one game steph. Curry can absolutely go off and end the lakers. Chance for a back to back. Titles in the plane tournament it can absolutely happen but if the memphis grizzlies vote against the lakers. It's game over. I give the memphis grizzlies. Absolutely no chance but again. We're getting too far ahead of ourselves. I'm just. I'm just trying to feel out this play in tournament and and talk about it a little bit because you know it's still. This is new this brand new and it might be a thing that stays around for awhile because something that i heard. Recently in one of those nationally televised games where would be stats go. Where would these planes that's going to be postseason stats isn't going to be regular season stats in the end. It's going to be neither it's going to have its own separate stats over plan i ever playing stats with. Reggie miller made a pretty decent comment saying that might mean that they're going to keep this thing for the foreseeable future. At least maybe going into next season. Which i'm hoping they do because it will make everything that much more. Enticing makes those final play in those final playoff spots. That much more enticing. It's not just all okay who's gonna be seventh and eighth to to lose two one and two. I mean especially this year. You got some big teams in that seventh and eighth spot at least seven the ninth right now. In the western conference in the lakers and the warriors who you can Would you honestly be surprised. If either one of those teams upset the utah. Jazz with the phoenix suns. I mean i wouldn't be surprised at the lakers. Do it would be a bit surprised if the if the warriors were to do it but it just adds that little bit extra of the that extra storyline which is all you want which is all the. Nba wants to adds intrigued so now. Let's talk about what is going to be happening in this tournament. So at first i thought what would have been the smarter way to do. It would be seven goes against ten eight goes against nine and then whoever wins those two games goes up against each other for the seven seat in eighth seed but what the way they're doing it is seven and eight go up against each other to the side the seventeen and then eight goes down to nine goes up goes up against weber one between nine and ten to decide the eighth seed i mean i guess either way is fine but for me i would have preferred that seven gadsby luxury for for being seventh you get the luxury of taking on ten because obviously ten is going to be much much worse which it is in this situation i mean you've got the spurs holy. Obviously they were. They've already clinched it but but they were just barely holding on it. Thirty three and thirty eight. Which by the way. The same record is all is eight nine and ten in the eastern conference. Oh you know. I mean we already know that. Eastern conference is so weak compared to west to the west. But still you've got the spurs there number at thirty three and thirty eight. He got golden state warriors at thirty eight and thirty three same as memphis. And then you got. The lakers are forty one and thirty so right. Now you looking at that. And you're thinking okay. So the lakers have to take on either the warriors or the grizzlies and easily lose that game against the warriors. Because of course they got steph curry and our. They don't have anybody that can guard steph curry. You know. And i know they don't have klay thompson. That's obvious but i still like i. I look at that on a. It's a definite possibility that the lakers could lose that. I don't expect them to lose to even spurs of the grizzlies whichever one where to make it out of the nine tenth spot but still it. Just there's a little bit more risk for the seven seat at and i know that again adds the storyline ads the intrigue. It adds the suspense. But i just It's a little bit of a little part of me just doesn't like it because i feel like it. It creates a little bit of an unfair advantage or an unfair disadvantage for the seven seed of each conference. They they should be taking on the weaker team. I know for them. Warton for for the seventh. Technically the seventh and eighth seed are pretty much the same seat you can look at it that way because now they're just taking on each other to see who goes on for the seventy but the lakers right. Now have a three gap a three-game gap between them and the memphis grizzlies. For the seventeen. Seven seventy spot. So the lakers have played their way into that seven seat. But that doesn't mean anything because all that that puts them in his still play in tournament to leave them into one game to still try to hold onto that seven seed that they have fought to keep. And that's that's where. I'm a little bit like against it. Just the format of it. Not the plane tournament itself just the way that they're going about it. That's seven and eight goal begins each other nine and ten go against each other. I understand nine and ten need to win. Two games to guarantee themselves a playoff spot. So i get it. Nine and ten are at a disadvantage in need to win to. They're literally both games to make it into the playoffs understood but still the seven seed in doesn't get any sort of advantage over the eight seat here at all. They're a better team for. I mean in the east. Yeah even they're like the celtics literally the same thing. They have a three game gap over the charlotte hornets but boston. Celtics have not been playing. Well charlotte can win that game. It's not out of the realm of possibility. And then you put the boston celtics against either washington or indiana. Which in my opinion. i'm. I'm putting my money on washington and ross west russell westbrook and bradley beal who can absolutely win one game against the celtics so a team that has fought its way to a seven seed. Who again they've come not fought their way. The kind of slid their way down to a seven seed now has to try to beat the charlotte hornets. And i guess. Maybe the washington wizards to make it into the playoffs. I just i feel like if you put them against the indiana pacers again. Not not easy game that they can. You know for sure. They're going to win that game but still gives them a little bit more of an advantage over what they're getting right now so i guess what. I'm what i'm trying to say here is. I wanted to see a little bit more of a gap in terms of advantage for the seventh compared to the eight seat. But there isn't so. That's my gripes with the play in tournament every other than that. I love everything else. I just. I love the competitiveness of it. What it adds to pretty much the whole season and Yeah so now. Let's talk about the predictions. What teams are going to end up. Where and what teams are going to make it into the seventh and eighth seed so. Let's start off with east conferences. That is obviously the weaker conference. Not the best competition here. You got the boston celtics. Who are the seven seat at thirty six and thirty five. They've obviously playing ho. This of late have not had any sort of good basketball on top of that. They're dealing with injuries. Jalen brown out for the year. And they're gonna have to go up against either the charlotte hornets washington wizards or indiana pacers. Because all three of those teams are tied at thirty three and thirty eight. So anything can happen. They're literally anything. Indiana can end up the eighth seed and have to take on boston. It's crazy i it's that tight down the stretch all three have the same record. So in my opinion. I think the washington woods is going to end up with the agency and then they're going to end up going up against boston celtics now once that happens and of course i got. I look at who they play. Play the charlotte hornets. That's so funny. We believe the charlotte hornets. And who indiana play. Indiana plays the toronto raptors. So i mean even toronto can win that game. But i feel like washington will win that game against charlotte. I just i just do. I mean of course it depends if they're fully healthy. I don't think they have gordon hayward back yet. I'm pretty sure there without gordon hayward right now and it's it's going gonna be tough for them to come out on top there because washington playing absolutely incredible in the second half of the season russell. Westbrook has been on legendary tear. And i feel like that's going to be a tough game for for charlotte. They don't have the defenders on the perimeter to really stick with either a beal or russell. Westbrook and i feel like in the end. That's going to cause problems and then even when you talk about down low. I mean they'd like there is no presence down low for the charlotte hornets which will allow russell westbrook to live down. There and that will cost problems as well. So in the end. I think washington will make it into the eighth seed and take on the boston celtics now. What will happen there. Honestly i feel like the washington wizards will then take the seven seed. I really do i just. I do not like the way. Boston is playing right now. Even though kemba has looked a lot better. I i'll give it to him there but i just don't see the boston celtics jason. Tatum needs to go off what she can't in one game. I mean he literally put up sixty against the spurs recently in a huge comeback and he can certainly lead them to win in that plane tournament. To get to the seventy which then your reward will be the brooklyn nets so you know i. It's like it's a lose lose their i guess. So but the end. I really do feel like the washington wizards will somehow ended up with a seven seat from a nine hundred. Seventy three games behind again. That's what i'm talking about. That's what i'm talking about where it's like. How can the washington wizards go from ninth. Three games behind the boston. Celtics to seven after winning. Just two games winning two games. It just doesn't make any sense. And i just really me but again. That's the way they're going to do it this year and i see i see it happening. I see the boston celtics. Losing that first game and then going up against the charlotte or in the ana and of course. It depends on the health of charlotte. But i actually concede indiana winning that game. I it would suck for charlotte. Who had a very solid start to. The season obviously fell off a little bit with lamelo ball and gordon hayward out with injuries lamelo ball came back recently. Gordon hayward is still not back but it will be certainly a sting no pun intended for that franchise as As they will be the odd man out in that term in so the charlotte hornets will not be there. the indiana pacers. We'll be moving on taking on the boston. Celtics for that eight seat and to see who will take on the philadelphia. Seventy sixers in the first round of the playoffs. And you look at that in. I like the matchup for indiana. Like in the ns got a lot of great all around players. You got a very solid from court malls turner. the bonus. Who in my opinion can bully. Even though robert williams has been low key very solid this year a very good up incoming player. I just don't think this will be the year that he has that kind of impact for the boston. Celtics i don't think he's going to be able to stop especially if he's guarding. The league might put a guy like they might put on a guy. Like the montessori bonus who prefers to play more inside compared to a miles turner and then who knows who they on on miles. Turn around the outside. Maybe they like to play small prediction tatum on them. But then miles turn and can go inside and kinda gobble up those rebounds so i actually feel it's close. It's close. I think as i can't go against the boston celtics here. It's just it's so close. But i think it's going to be the boston celtics. Who get that. Even though i'm like right there it's like by by the skin of my teeth from like i. I love the matchup. That indiana has against the boston celtics especially with no jaylen brown. That's gotta be set. Not jalen brown for the boston celtics. That is a huge loss. That's their second best player. He an all and honestly for a lot of the season he was their best player. More efficient tougher player. He's obviously not as was versatile on the offensive end. but he's still gives. Its you every single night. And i really feel like that loss is gonna make the boston celtics. Just barely make it into the playoffs. But i do believe they will make it in so for my predictions. I see the washington wizards as the seven seed and be boston. Celtics making it as the eighth seed with charlotte and indiana being the odd teams out. And that's the way that eastern conference playing tournament is gonna go in my opinion. Of course we still need to wait. And see how these how this final game of the season goes for charlotte washington and indiana. Because you know we gotta see how that jostles in the standings. But i do believe washington will be will beat charlotte. Which again. I'll get into more detail on my next segment and yeah so now. Let's move on to the western conference where it gets real exciting. So you got the l. a. Lakers forty one thirty looking very solid. They're they're finally getting healthy. Got lebron. James davis drumond. Dennis schroder mantras herrell ridiculous. I'm crazy amount of town. One of the best seven seats of all time if we can honest if we can be honest and they will have to go up against the memphis grizzlies or the golden state warriors. Oddly enough the memphis grizzlies take on the golden state warriors for this final for this final game. I don't wanna talk much about it. I really don't but just for these predictions. I will just go off what i'm looking at right as if you know it's lakers emphasis eddie. Golden state nine spurs at ten. Now like i said lakers are geared up for another championship run. There is no way no way that lebron james will allow his lakers to lose the first game of the tournament. They will not. They're going to win. And on august on top of that. They're trying to even afford the plane tournament tied with the portland trailblazers at forty one and thirty they. The trailblazers have a game against the denver nuggets on sunday. Which again i'm gonna talk about in the next segment. Don't wanna get too much detail here. So it's even possible to the lakers won't even be in this seven seat. They could possibly be in the sixteen. Who do the lakers take on. They take on the pelicans. So they got and the public have been resting zion on so that looks like an easy win for the lakers because there are obviously going to be try to win that game to give them the best chance of being the sixty to take on the denver nuggets now now. Let's talk about it. Lakers vs memphis grizzlies. No contest you got the lakers. With lebron james anthony davis to the best players in the nba. Haven't been playing. So i understand a little bit of ross has to be taken off. But i mean the great the other day i mean it was yesterday or two days ago. Lebron look absolutely incredible for the lakers. Not a single rust incredible thirty six years. Old guy still looks like he did five years ago. Guy's a monster. So they're going to win that game. Be the seven seat if they are in that plane tournament and now golden state and san antonio now i love with san antonio's done louis jacob kind of becoming a decent starter for them obviously rose and have any solid season. John murray coming into his own looking very nice guys like lani walker. What's this other kid's name There was one other player on their team that i was very impressed with Let me see Devon vessel very three point shooter gorging. Gordon dang gives them a good Gives them some good What is it depth on the center. Position kelvin johnson. That's the one. I really am impressed with. kelvin johnson. The way he looks he also got derek. Whyte is he injured though. I think he's injured from not mistaken. Doesn't expect derek whyte back this season. Yeah so yeah. He's not even there so that is a big loss for them. He's one of their best players But then you also got rudy gay. Got some you've got some. What does it veteran. Presence is on this team. So i i do feel like the san antonio spurs are not e- you know the the odd man they're not gonna win especially so for me lead to have looked bad over the last ten games or to win eight in their last ten games so certainly do not look good right. Now however you look at the golden state warriors. The her going to win this game. It's not even a question. Steph curry saying way james would not allow this lakers team to lose in the tournament steph. Curry is not going to let that happen. Steph curry draymond. Green was the andrew wiggins. Kelly you braid. They're not gonna let it happen. They're going to win this game. So now all left with memphis and the golden state warriors and in my opinion which. I'm sure plenty of other people are going to have this same opinion. Golden state is going to win that game. Now it's going to be close because golden state are without James winston watt. James weisman came as winston. Why am i thinking james what. Okay sorry people but yeah james wiseman not without without james wiseman who in my opinion is still wouldn't have made as big of an impact against a guy like jonas balance who has been killing the season and i feel like that's the only way memphis can really win this game if jonas balanced eunice absolutely tears it up do they even have jaren jackson back did even play the season. I don't even think he played this year. Let me let me look at that real quick. Let me see jaren whereas he aj jaren jackson junior all says he's ready to go sunday. Oh he did he has been playing a little bit here and there look pretty decent so we have plane is was that his first game of the season now. He's been these playing a little bit. I decided to paying attention to any of the memphis grizzlies games because i care less but yeah he. He came back. What was april april. Twenty second so he's been playing for almost about us almost a month now so he's got a little bit of his legs under him but he's still only playing twenty three minutes a game. Fourteen points five rebounds. It's obviously not the jaren jackson. Junior that we've seen in the past two seasons but still memphis is on a five game win streak seven and three in their last ten games looking pretty solid grayson. Allen is kinda come into his own this year. formed a little bit of a of a role for himself. The anthony mountain is an excellent player off the bench for them. Of course jon moran is there. Superstar should say just a star. He hasn't really taken that leap yet. Count anderson very solid forward for them brandon. Clark you know livewire very good sparkplug off the bench. Justice winslow gives them that defensive wing. Can you can kinda put on whoever you really want. He can guard one through five in my opinion. He's very solid. Dillon brooks can't stand dillon brooks as a player super inefficient. Buddy does average seventeen points a game on third in thirty minutes but look to assist just under three rebounds. I mean he does kinda nothing else. But again dillon. Brooks is one of those Scoring threats on this team and then who else you got That's about it of course to join jonzon. Shooter already talked about happening credible year. Seventeen points a game twelve and a half rebounds and i'm pretty sure he's averaging like to. How many blocks game whereas a okay. Now it's under a block a game so not much in rim protection but certainly in rebounding and interior finishing he gives a lot there. And that's one of the weaknesses for the golden state warriors. This year outing. The a drain on green can really do much against jonas. Vowel height differences ridiculous. Even though dream on green certainly has the strength to hold off jonas. valentinus. I do not think that he has the size. It's just it's not really gonna work out there. So that is the one chance memphis has to really move on this tournament. But i think they got steph curry they got steph friggin kirk. And they're going to win that game in the end they're gonna win that game but so they might not even have to because there is a big game this sunday. That could decide whether they're even have to play that game and we can get one of the best teams ever with the play in tournament with the seven eighteen in the western conference. Getting the los angeles lakers golden state warriors. Only if the golden state warriors can beat the memphis grizzlies on sunday. We're gonna be talking about that next on the gmc basketball podcast. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. 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We have all thirty two teams facing off sixteen games and there are some big ones here a lot of implications on seeding and word beginning into every single one of those now in this segment. I i want to talk about those early games. We've got indiana pacers vs toronto raptors. There is some talk there. There is something going on there because. Indiana pacers are now tied with the washington wizards in the charlotte hornets. Four that eight seed and at the indiana pacers win and charlotte or actually right now. The best they can get the nine because charlotte and the washington wizards play as well at one o'clock. So i guess there really isn't much further indiana to play with their. Because i i mean i guess going for that ninth seed but what does that really do for you. Because there's no difference between nine and ten in the plane tournament. You still got to win. Two games to get into the playoffs. So in the end the indiana pacers game won't really do much. They're boston celtics versus the new york. Knicks that's a big one because for boston. it doesn't really matter they're still. they're locked into that. Seven seat ever knicks. Now that the heat. Who didn't have jimmy butler tonight. Or bamn or tyler herro. Yes they had bam tyler. But they didn't play at all they sucked. It was terrible. I'm pissed and now the knicks. All you gotta do is win. And they lock up. I believe the fourth seat because they have the tiebreaker over the atlanta hawks but they don't have the tiebreaker over the heat so they need to win that game to lock up that fourth seat. If they don't anything had happened they can even fall all the way down to six. And take on the milwaukee bucks. Which i'm sure nobody wants to do. Because that is the same side of the bracket the brooklyn nets and that means a very very very very very tough path all the way to the nba finals. Because that means you're taking on if you're the sixth seed you're likely going to obviously you're gonna take on well. It's either the bucks or the nets because still the bucks could technically still make it to the second seed. But it's gonna be the box or the nets and then the second round you're taking on the bucks or the nets so either way you're taking on both of those teams and then in the conference finals. If you make it back far you have to take on the philadelphia. Seventy sixers or. Let's say whoever you know if another team upsets them and that would be incredible. But you'd have you'd have to have a very very tough path. The four five path is much easier because you could avoid one of those two three seeds. Let them go out and and eliminate one. You know one of them. And you gotta deal with the philadelphia seventy sixers but for me as a heat fan much any team much easier path and to have to go through all three of the toughest teams in the eastern conference so definitely a lot on the line for the new york knicks in this game. It's in madison square garden. They're going to be looking to get this. W and i'm pretty sure they can get it. Though the celtics look good in their last game they beat them was the minnesota timberwolves. Beat them one. Twenty four to one eight though. The celtics have not looked good of late. Only four and six in the last ten games loss jaylen brown recently for the season so that certainly is a gut punch for them. And they're gonna be relying heavily on jayson. Tatum even kemba walker was out and he's out both games. All my god kemba walker is not even playing on sunday. that hurts. that really really hurts. So they're going to be without two of their their two of their best three scoring options. They do still have their best scoring option and jayson tatum. But he's going to have to carry a massive load to be able to beat this team. They're going to be leaning heavily. Marcus smart tristan. Thompsons going to have to give them. Good minutes Evan bourne is going to have to play out of his mind as he has re you know since that very poor star to boston celtics career and they could win the game but i. I'm i'm leaning towards the knicks heavily because the knicks have been playing great there four last ten games one two in a row. They just finished being the charlotte. Hornets in overtime They beaten the hawks. The raptors the bulls. What else I think i went too far back. So b- their last four games. They beaten the clippers the spurs. They lost to the lakers by two. They did lose to the nuggets and the sons but Yeah man. I mean they've they've been dominating the season their defense is incredible. They got a star now. Julius randle they got an up and coming player in rj. Bird playing very well this season normal the well as taking in that his taken that mitchell robinson role in stride. Obviously he's no mitchell robinson but he's still a very solid defensive center and can provide that down low But it's going to be very hard for boston to go into madison square garden and win this game even though it is possible. I don't see it happening. The knicks winning that game and locking up. I'm pretty sure would be the fourth seat now. Yep it would the fourth seat if they win so now we keep on going and we got the hornets versus the wizards. And that is a big because the hornets and the wizards are tied for the same record. Hornets have the tiebreaker. So they're in the eighth seed. The washington wizards during the ninth seed. Washington have been playing extremely. Well since i i wanna say the second had pretty much the whole second half of the season they really turned it around and have gotten into this play in tournament. They were like i was talking about them like she's like a little bit about them possibly making you into the tournament but i'm actually think they were going to have that big of a you know you know hot streak in the second half of the season to actually make it there but they made it all the way there and even made it into the night seats so can they beat the charlotte hornets. One hundred percent absolutely charlotte. Hornets have not been playing well. They've lost four in a row. Three and seven in the last ten games they're dealing with injuries guys like Let me see. Let me let me go to that game and see what what. Their injury report is looking like. They they got gordon hayward still out doesn't look like he's going to be coming back for the plane. Yes says he's out likely for the plan so they're not gonna have him either. That's going to be a big miss while the washington wizards bradley beal's a game time decision. Russell westbrook's playing pretty sure. Your it says. Broadly bill could return on sunday. Which would be a huge get. 'cause that's big for the man that gives them two games that they can. You know the they can possibly win to you. Know to get into the tournaments. It's no longer. They need to win. Two games the ninth. So this is a big game for both of these teams. It's a home game for the wizards. So gives them an even bigger advantage. And i certainly see the wizards coming away with the victory here. I would be extremely surprised if the hornets win this game you know. Obviously they're lean they lean heavily on lonzo ball non lamelo ball. I mean sorry. Get them confused. Sometimes and miles bridges had a very solid season. Terry rozier has been very very good. Pj washington's been solid Even devante grams being given them a lot but their best to players were gordon hayward and lamelo ball terry rozier has been right there as like you know that that other really good player. He's been right there with two of them but low lamelo ball has been solid. I mean what is the last last couple of games. If he's been if he's been tearing it up yeah he's been. He hasn't had that same magic. Like at least 'specially over the last two games. Even though he did have an eighteen point six rebounds seven assists to steal game against the clippers. He had he had an eight point. Three rebound force game against the new york knicks in his last game out. It's i mean he just obviously. It's going to be difficult with that injury. He also couldn't play the second half of the game against the knicks. so so obviously that kind of hurts his stats a little bit there. But i just don't see the charlotte hornets. Even if you know lamelo balls playing great. They need big games from rozier. Graham bridges like everyone needs to contribute here and the main thing is that they don't have much down low. The wizards don't either but the wizards have a guy in russell. Westbrook who lives inside. The paint is an absolute monster. And he's got a twenty nine point five p. e. r. this season averaging twenty two points a game almost twelve assists and almost twelve rebounds. Absolutely incredible on adam. Forty four percent from the field. I mean that's great. But you know like on average but that's like slightly below average but i mean compared to what he's done previous seasons it's not it's not terrible. He's got a high usage rate. So you know. He has the ball on his hands. A lot of the time. Thirty seven triple doubles. This season became the all time leader in triple doubles in the history of basketball. So he's got something to prove that he can you know. Obviously he's one of the greatest point guards ever but you know he's he's got to prove that he can win it. When it matters. And i think russell westbrook's gonna show up in a big way. He's gonna have his star. You know in bradley beal their next one real we have you more has been very solid this season as well. He's going to be playing there. And i really do feel that the washington is going to play themselves into that. Eighth seed and gold begins the celtics in the play in tournament. Like i said in the last segment. I feel like the washington wizards will end up with that. Seven seed with the way. The celtics are playing and especially now that kemba walker is out nothing to give you anything defensively but he at least gave you a bit offensively that you can. Then keep up with the washington wizards who have been a very good offensive team this season averaging one hundred sixteen points a game. Their defense or defenses atrocious. And i they're going to need a little bit of that but against the charlotte hornets. Who have not been a good offensive team this season. It won't be an issue. So i really do feel that the wizards are going to win this game. And move on into the eighth seed. What else we have here. Phoenix suns versus the spurs as up. Do anything here. phoenix suns. Yes i mean. Technically i mean i don't know if the phoenix suns have the tiebreaker over the jazz do they let me see to have. They beaten the they beat the jazz. There's that's one win at another win so took enough quickly. My have the tiebreaker over the jazz. Wow why f three win so they have the tiebreaker over the jazz so they have a lot to go into their as well spurs they don't. They're locked into that tennessee. But the sons have a lot. You know t to play for their get the first seed in the number one overall seed in the entire playoffs which would be huge for them. I would be an incredible incredible story. Money williams in my opinion would have himself locked into that coach of the year award. I know some people were talking top dibitetto which yeah i. I understand the knicks with julius. Randle kinda you know. Become an incredible player this year. We're going to win. Most improved got rj barrett. Doing great things timetables done a great job there. But i just think monty williams even even with the second seat i mean. Do the guy. They've separated themselves in that upper echelon of the nba the second best record in the nba. The season fighting in that western conference. That is not easy to do to win. Fifty games in a seventy two game season that is not an easy thing to do and they can easily win a fifty one a fifty first game but they need the utah jazz to what is to lose touch. Actually have two games left all yet because they play to is. Do they play today. Let me see well. They beat the thunder yesterday. So yeah they only have one game left against the kings. I don't know why i'm so confused easier. Because they're fifty one twenty yet so yeah it's yeah they need the utah jazz to lose and they need to win so obviously they need to have You know that they need to be playing well in this game and win which. I do expect them to do that. Because i'm sure they're going to be the number one seat so there's going to be all hands on deck for the phoenix suns. So expect a win there for the sons he got the memphis grizzlies versus the golden state warriors. That is another big game between the eighth and ninth. Seeds in their respective conference sets up a huge story. Line which team is gonna play themselves into the abc to play the lakers man. We're all we're all hoping that the golden state warriors bowl teams are playing the exactly the same over the last ten games. Seventy three bolt on a five game win streak playing very well. They they even have the same goal. The differential the net differential owner memphis plus one point two golden state warriors are plus plus point nine playing a little bit worse. Defensively a little bit. Better offensively than the memphis grizzlies. But they got a weapon. There that the memphis grizzlies do not not steph curry. But at the same time memphis. Grizzlies have that size down. Low jaren jackson juniors back. They got joan his balance having an incredible season and it. It's going to be a tight game. But i do expect the golden state warriors to win this game more like i'm putting that out into the universe. 'cause who does not want to see the lakers versus the golden state warriors in the first game of playing tournament to see who makes the seven seat. I sure do an it would be really crazy to see the lakers as an eight seed. Lebron a d. drummond mantras herald and schroeder. That would be the already said about the seventy best seven seat of all time but obviously that means the best eighth seed of all time. I mean that would be incredible to see that. But there's a lot on the line there in that game between memphis and golden state. Those team that's going to be one probably gonna wanna watch as it has a lot of seating implications in that game philadelphia versus orlando. Nothing much going there you gotta philadelphia's already locked up that number one seed so they are pretty much sit all their starters probably gonna you know coast with just their role players and coast into the playoffs. Brooklyn nets versus the cavaliers are still a little bit to be playing for their brooklyn. That's still fighting for that number. Two seed of they want that to to not have to go up against either a miami heat or a knicks or hawks. So you know. i mean. We're not afraid of any team. They're they're the championship so any team that they wanna face. They're going to face them but they need to win this game in order to guarantee themselves a spot in the number two seed because right now the milwaukee bucks are only one game behind them so if a win for the bucks and a loss for the nets says makes the bucks the two seed and the nets the three seed so nets need to win that game it is a decent one against the cavs however if we do remember earlier this season when the brooklyn nets had their big three the cavs beat them twice in a row. I'm sure the nets are going to be thinking about that. Want that revenge before the end of the season so next. We have the atlanta hawks vs the rockets another game. The has some playoff eating locations there. The atlanta hawks in a fight with the heat and the The new york knicks for the four five and six seats right now. Their fifth the knicks do a tiebreaker over them. The heat now. A thirty two losses need a lot of help from the atlanta hawks. And the knicks need both those teams to lose for them to have a chance at the foreseen or even the fifth seed. One of those teams need to lose. Because they don't have. They don't have a tiebreaker over the hawks but they do have the tiebreaker over the next so they do need the knicks order. Get a chance again to that fit seat. But the atlanta hawks had been playing well under nate mcmillan. They've been playing like one of the best teams in basketball over the last couple of weeks. And i feel like they're gonna come into this game with all especially against the houston rockets with the worst record in the nba. I wanna say by far by for their seventeen and fifty four detroit pistons right behind them are twenty and fifty one so. I expect the hawks to win that game. Especially with a guy like bohdan bogdonovich playing out of his mind of late. I mean the guy is just playing absolutely ridiculous. shows why the bucks wanted him. I mean man if they if the box would have gone him andrew holiday who that would have been scary him. Instead of dante devon. Chen's oh my god. Like i just saw down on this game tonight against the heat. He did not look that good like he's the doesn't hit a lot of threes little hesitant on offense gives you a little bit defensively but bogdonovich is a monster on the offensive end. He's showing that he can literally run a team. Another ball handler. That can play make score off the dribble spot up which would be perfect for a guy like john just thinking about that just makes me shiver because that would have been crazy but luckily it didn't happen and now he's with the atlanta hawks playing very well and they have a chance to lock up the fourth seed if they win and the new york knicks lose But they need to take care of business. I stay in that fifth seed. At least so i do see them playing extremely hard in that game and locking up after seats so next we have the denver nuggets versus the portland trailblazers another game. That has a lot of seating implications denver nuggets trying to lock up that third seed. They need to get that win. They have tiebreaker of the la clippers. Both teams have the same record. And and and also for the portland trailblazers. They have the same record as the la lakers. They need to win that game so this is going to be. Both teams are really going to want to win. It's going to be a very exciting game to watch. And if the portland trailblazers lose. That gives the lakers a prime-time chance of making it out of the playing in tournament and grabbing that succeed which would also mean that. The denver nuggets will keep that third seed. And you'd see denver versus the lakers in the first round. But how nice would it be if the clippers like. How would it happen. If the clipper somehow go into the third seed so do the lakers and then you get a l. Labor is la first round matchup. That would be exciting to watch So honestly either way works for me. But i wanna see. Golden state versus the lakers in the plane tournament. I'm sorry i just do. I wanna see steph. Curry light up the lakers. And drop them down to an eighth seed. I would love to see that but Regardless it's going to be a very very begin between denver and portland both teams. You know needing a win to hold onto their seating and So so that's going to be very tight Next we have the lakers versus the pelicans again. Like i've been saying lakers need to get the win here. If they want any chance of getting out of the plane tournaments so they're going to be trying their hardest. Why also seen the pelicans not really putting in their top players. In the last game they played against the golden state warriors. They rested zion. What will he had an injury. But there was no zion No stephen adams. Even though i feel pretty sure adams has been has been out for awhile. He's only been playing him. What eight minutes. Play one minute. Two minutes i guess. He's been injured all not snow. Asked him what. Why did it click. I'm clicking stephen apps. Yeah he's injured with a toe injury and he's out for the finale so he's not going to be playing that game Zion williamson plane. Yup his sophomore season's over he's not going to be playing brandon. Ingram also done for the year. Yeah they're not gonna be playing any of these guys out sunday every all these top players from the pelicans are out which gives the lakers. Primetime chance of winning this game which they likely will and you know i. It'll be all left to the portland trailblazers and also great thing is both. Those games are at the same time. So we're gonna find out who's the sixty seven seat at pretty much the same time you also get the bucks versus the bulls are both eliminated with the bucks. Still have a chance at that number two seed so they will be playing hard to try to get their Let's see the clippers. Thunder clippers may be trying to get that seat so they're going to be trying to win that game against oklahoma city thunder. No doubt you got you know. Paul george and kawhi leonard really wanting to write there. The wrongs and and get over those demons after what happened last year against denver nuggets in the semifinal of the playoffs. Losing in seven games after being three one in the in the series. So it's going to be a big game for them and and a big postseason for them as well Utah jazz versus the sacramento kings and utah jazz. One lock that number one seed. They're going to be playing the sacramento kings who have not been good over the last couple games or that six and four in the last ten games but they have lost two in a row. One to memphis really close game. One seven one. Six both games to memphis so Yeah it's not not the best way to end the season for them but still the jazz are going to be looking to win. This game to lockup that number one seed so expect the win there for them. And then you've got the dallas mavericks. Who are taking on the timber wolves for them. I guess it doesn't i. I guess it does. Because if the portland trailblazers. I'm not sure if the dallas mavericks have the tiebreaker over them. I guess i can find out right now for y'all let's see Mavericks were we got. We got the mavericks so they won one lost one or is that other game and then they won. Do they have a four. Th game against them do they. Have they do not so the portland trailblazers do have the tiebreaker over. The dallas mavericks so of portland important wins in dallas loses. Poor the move all the way up to fifth so which honest. I don't know if they want to make us. It all depends if denver is a third of the fourth seeds. And i'm sure they would prefer to take on denver over the clippers. Because i feel like the clippers matchup much better against against portland than denver does. And yeah it'll be it'll be very very interesting to see how all these games play out man. And then of course my miami heat take on the detroit pistons at eight o'clock they economy looks like they're locked into that six seed They need a lot of help from the knicks. And the hawks they need. They need at least one of those teams team. One of those teams to lose Most like actually it would have to be the knicks to lose because there's no chance for them to get the fourth seed now. They had to win their last two games. But they lost the bucks today with no jimmy butler and the knicks lose and the heat win. They still got a chance of that. Fifth seed which would be much more preferred so that they can avoid that brooklyn nets and bucks bracket and they can take on the seventy sixers in that second round and they just punched him in the mouth alaska a couple of days ago and they look wind to to to do another historic. Run in the postseason. I would love to see the miami heat. Really make some noise and upset some people here but it's just consistencies the season. I do expect miami to win. But like i said they need help from those other teams to move anywhere. Pass six. so that's going to wrap it up for the segment. A lot of interesting games in this past in the this last sunday of the regular season. This is what you hope for man of teams vying for for for seeding. The last game of the season means a lot to a lot of different teams. So makes you guys keep an eye on all of those but that's gonna wrap it up for this segment. Make sure you guys stick around. 'cause when i come back i'm going to be talking about the top ten teams heading into the nba playoffs right after this. This is your ultimate stopper. Everything sports the golden state media concepts sports podcast. Should i say more from the nfl. Mlb the nba mma. All in here. Golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen welcome back to the gmc basketball podcast. If you missed the last segment we talked about the biggest games of this final sunday of the regular season. A lot of seeding implications going on in pretty much every single game so if you guys want to hear about all that all the scenarios please go and check that out but now we're gonna be talking about the top ten teams heading into the playoffs or we're talking about the teams that have been playing the best in this month of may you know which teams of taking advantage of their chances and pretty much solidified their seeds or which ones have faltered a bit towards the end and haven't really done it. You're going to see you know. Couple of question marks in this power because it's not a power rankings of which teams are the best in the lead. This is just my opinion on which teams are looking the best heading into the playoffs and number ten. I have a tie between the miami heat and the new york knicks. Now both these teams are fighting for a fifth seed fifth forty. Obviously right now the heat can no longer get the fourth seed. But actually i'm not hundred percent. Sure on on on tiebreakers and all that. There's a lot of things that go into it. But i'm pretty sure that he'd arc right now eliminated from the fourth seat after losing to milwaukee. The knicks. have a chance at that. Fits at that fourth seed because they had just continue to play extremely good basketball. You know they're they're in pretty much every single game. They rarely get blown out. You know they They just beat the hornets and over time. They beat the spurs by four. They lost to the lakers by two. They beat the clippers. They did lose two games in a row to the nuggets and suns by in in big big fashion. Those were away games and they have not been good away which is why they're probably eyeing that foresee they want. You know their first playoff series since since what twenty thirteen to be home to being you know homecourt advantage. Msg and the new york. Knicks have done very well to get there they are only what was it a no five and three in may so it's not incredible which is why they're tenth not any higher but they are still playing extremely good basketball. You got julius randle playing some of his best basketball over his last couple of games against charlotte hornets. Yeah triple double thirty three points. Ten rebounds thirteen assists. I nick to have a thirty point. Triple double since carmelo back in twenty thirteen and against the spurs literally his last two games. He's got he had. What was it. Twenty five points. Nine rebounds and nine assists rj barrett also contributing in. So you know you're getting some great basketball from your star players and then when you talk about the miami heat they're eight and two or our i guess now it'll be seven and three in their last. Ten names have been playing very well. They were on a four game. Win streak before this loss to the bucks without jimmy butler. I should say and one thing. I didn't know about the heat. And jimmy butler should say is that they didn't played. They played the brooklyn nets in the milwaukee bucks. Six different times this season jimmy butler did not play in a single one of those games. Know if that's an advantage for the heat or not. But i think that the heat will have a huge huge run in these playoffs. I'm not just saying it as a heat as a heat fan. I mean maybe partially. But i just feel like the heat have the recipe to beat some of these big teams like the bucks. I think they can beat the bucks. Obviously they need to have jimmy butler they need. Have bamboo not playing like like a panzi. It you know what i mean like. He did in this game today. But i think the miami heat can certainly make some noise in the playoffs. They come in at number ten tied with the next. Because i just feel like they're playing that well and number nine. We have the denver nuggets. Who have been absolutely you know just shocking people by playing as well as they have without jamal murray. You shouldn't be that surprised. I mean joke which is an mvp. He is the mvp of the season. But you also got michael porter jr. stepping up in such a big way for them over the power since he's been out with injury since jamal murray went out. He's averaging nineteen points a game seven rebounds on fifty four percent from the field and forty four percent from three killing absolutely killing it. I love mike. Reporters game recently. Saw highlight reel of him. The kid can absolutely make buckets. He can also defend the big. He's super long very agile. He's quick he's athletic. He's got a lot of good things to his game. And that's what the only thing is. I can't put them any higher than nine. Because they're missing their second best player. Michael junior playing this well and you had jamal murray and nikola jokic. Mvp denver nuggets would be title contenders this season but right now it only puts them at number nine. Because there's a team ahead of that has just been killing in the month of may and that is the atlanta hawks. They come in at number eight. They have been so good since. Nate mcmillan has come in. I mean turned around their season. Absolutely i mean they are what they're six and one in the month of may with that only loss being against the pacers Tough loss to the pacers there. But still you got bogdonovich playing absolutely out of his mind over the past few weeks. You add that to trae young john collins. All that can happen. You know averaged twenty five points. Kevin hurt or playing. Greg gallon nari. Lou williams having been adding very solid production off the bench and the fact that they still don't have the andre hunter says a lot it says a lot i mean. He just played he. He's been playing. What six he played. The last two games hasn't really done much. She's what four for fourteen over those two games. it's you know. There's obviously a little bit of rust. They can afford that because they're playing very well but they're going to need his defense and to at and scoring abilities in the playoffs but they are. They are a threat. I do believe they. Will you know they could possibly make it out for frown man. They are a good team. The only thing is that they're not that great defensively they allow hunt one hundred eleven point game which is still like avidan. That's like what middle of the pack. If i believe that's like middle of the pack which isn't terrible but their offense can certainly score one hundred thirteen points per game that gives them a plus to net differential and and they're very dangerous team so i certainly think they have a chance in any series i even think against the philadelphia seventy sixers. They can give them a run for their money. Don't expect them to beat them. Obviously but still. The hawks are a dangerous team. that's why they come in at number eight and number seven we have. The los angeles lakers and the lakers. Obviously they finally got lebron james back. You'd looked great in his first game. Back against the indiana pacers. Anthony davis has been doing some incredible things. He had a forty two point game recently against. Who was it wasn't against the knicks. Was it against the sun's was against the sun's. Yeah he put up forty two points. Twelve rebounds five assists three steals and three blocks. Anthony davis officially back. Lebron james is looking back. I just can't put them any higher than seven because those are the only two in my opinion that really give this team a chance to win. Like i like schroder a bit. He's very solid very solid point. Guard their starter. He you know he's a good point guard. What is the average has either start now. I'm sure he's there or is it coming off the bench He didn't play that game but he's definitely the starter he's averaging fifteen points a game. This season six assists three and a half rebounds but not on very solid averages a forty four just under forty four percent from the field thirty three percent from three one point two steals so he's solid two way player very crafty player. But i just think the lakers they will live and die by what lebron and a d does for them and obviously you also gotta look at contagious call. Pope does a bit for them as well on drums. Going to be a big piece wesley. Matthews caruso coups. Ma obviously is going to be big off the bench I just. I just think that there's a little bit too many inconsistencies with this team. And obviously lebron james i guess he greatness. I game back. But he's gonna need a little bit of time to get back into that regular lebron james rhythm so That's why haven't at seven heading into the playoffs. Normally they'd be top five for sure. May maybe top four but right now having met number seven number six. We have the la clippers now. The clippers have been a very good team. This season very very good. You know they gotta what plus six point three net rating which is second best in the entire western conference. They've looked very very good but in the month of may they have dropped a couple of games that make you kinda. Scratch your head a bit. Big game against the nuggets with seating implications both coup. Why am paul. George play and you had paul george put up with no yet quite leonard. Put up sixteen points on only twelve attempts like just not playing the way you would expect them to. Rondo has been a very solid addition but tuned didn't play well that game demarcus cousins been a good addition to that team and so so they got depth and they got the stars. But there's just sometimes. I feel like they're just not producing when they need to the. Obviously they lost the rockets recently. That's a bad loss. Obviously it was without quite leonard. And paul george. So so you know. You can't really blame them too much. They have patrick. Beverley jackson playing so they had a lot of their guys out but demarcus cousins or josh baca was playing. You know luke. Canard was playing very well. What does this scrub jay scrub with. Having data decent game. Twenty three points to lead the team. Even rondo had a very good game thirteen assists three turnovers looking very solid heading into the playoffs. So yes the clippers are one of the more you know one of the best depth teams. They have the best death in my opinion or not the best step but they have a very good complement a role players throughout that team. And then they got the stars in paul george and kawhi leonard now can they put it all together in a seven game series. That's what we're going to have to wait and see right now. They're the fourth seed could possibly be the three seat at the end of the season after sunday. We'll have to wait. And see. But i have the brooklyn. The la clippers at number six but a number five or just spoiled it just bed. We got the brooklyn nets and some people are probably thinking. What are you talking about. How are the brooklyn. Nets behind t. v. Beyond the couple teams. I just feel like there's a couple teams there. That have just been a little bit better than they have in. The month of may just just kind of gearing up for those playoffs. They've the brooklyn nets only four and three in the playoffs. They lost two games in a row. To the milwaukee bucks though the both of them were away anywhere. Close games i one. They lost one seventeen to one fourteen. The other one one twenty four to one eighteen. They also lost the game to the mavericks they beat. They beat the bulls twice. Beat the nuggets. And they beat the spurs. Not a lot of great wins there. The nuggets one is a solid win but the bulls and the spurs. That's not a big they do take on the cavaliers and the last game of the season but i just you know. It's just been a little bit of inconsistencies. And yes they do. Have their guys back. I'm pretty sure Kevin durant james harden. Ankara irving are all playing. But james harden does have to get a little bit of rushed off but still there are an incredible incredibly talented team blake griffin starting for them now and got nicholas claxton getting minutes. The the the odd man. Out i believe is the andre jordan. He has not been getting minutes for a while. He is out of the starting lineup. And even out of the rotation. Which is what i was hoping for because nicholas claxton is much better than the andre jordan is right now which he showed that last game against the bulls. He had ten points. Eight rebounds was three blocks even and three blocks so he gives you that interior presence that they need and some solid scoring and rebounding so the brooklyn nets come in a number five very solid team but just a couple inconsistencies. That i've seen in the month of may number four. We have the milwaukee bucks and the milwaukee bucks despite not being the number one seed are definitely a better team this season. The addition of drew holiday has really transformed them. It's allowed them to do a lot of different things offensively. It's given them a juggernaut. Defensively a guy that you can really put on any of the team's best perimeter player and he will come down. That's how good he is. He's going to be all defensive player this year. They're eight and two in their last ten games they just finish. Finish the feeding the miami heat. They beat the pacers. The magic the wizards rockets the nets twice in this month. That makes them now. Seven and one in the month of may they take on the both for the last season to make them eight and one heading into the playoffs so just very very solid. Play from the bucks me. They're looking very scary heading into the playoffs. No wants to be that succeed right now. Right now it's looking like the heat. And i'm not happy about that. But yeah it's the milwaukee bucks very very dangerous team and that's why they come in number four genus. Khris middleton jrue holiday. Brook lopez has been very solid. Bobby portis off. The bench has been very very good. bryce was it Bryan forbes has been good. Dante stephen channels been solid as well and pat connotation they all got they got some pretty good depth. But i feel like in the end. It's all going to come down to. Chris middleton genus andrew holiday. Those are the guys that need to perform at high level especially genus kubo for them to really realize their dreams in the playoffs and make it to the finals And that's why they come in at number four number three. We have the phoenix suns now. The phoenix suns have also been playing. Great down the stretch. Seventy three in their last ten games They recently took on the spurs defeated. Them one forty two one or three really. Put a beating on them especially those three games before that tight win over the trail. Blazers one eighteen one seventeen but then two losses in a row wants of the warriors. Once the lakers and they've been giving up a lot of points recently. They also have a loss of the hawks when he lost one. Thirty five to one. Oh three they have not been playing great defense over. The last couple of games are pretty much in the month of march. I would say because even in some of their wins they beat the cavaliers one thirty four but they gave up one eighteen the thunder they scored one twenty three on them but the allowed one twenty so there are. There are some defensive problems. That i'm seeing from the phoenix suns. That we haven't seen all season long. I'm afraid we're gonna see that in the playoffs. That's why they're just a notch behind this team ahead of them still a great team. Great offensively great leadership on that team. Great young talent at great wing defenders great wing a wing three d. player so I think the phoenix suns are well-equipped. Heading into the playoffs. But there's just been a bit of inconsistencies from them in may that makes drop them to three and number two we have the philadelphia seventy sixers. Yes they recently. Lost to the miami heat and looked very bad matt game. They also lost to the pacers but they are still a very very good team. You gotta remember joel. Embiid has not been playing at the level that you would have expected of him. He's kind of taking his foot off the gas pedal towards the pack. Back end of the season. He really has a you look over like i haven't looked over his last couple games but me. I mean actually do that right now. Joel embiid over his past couple games. He's put up thirteen points six points. Those are last two games. Have thirteen and eleven rebounds against orlando at six two against miami and he only had nine field goal attempts in those two games he also only had thirteen field goal attempts against the detroit pistons in the game before that he made eleven of them. But still you know. He's just not being as aggressive. He's kinda coasting heading into the playoffs. Which you can't blame them. You know he he. He wants to be fit. He wants to be healthy heading into the playoffs. Which he you know has been a very very big question. Mark for joel embiid. But in the end the philadelphia. Seventy six of the philadelphia. Seventy sixers are very good defensive team. They can scorn bunches they got an mvp candidate. Joel embiid and that does a lot. I mean they got a defensive player of the year candidate and ben simmons. They got a lot of options on team device. Tobias harris has been huge for them. You got great Shooting around those stars. In in. Seth curry danny green shake. Milton's been very solid this season. Matisse stibal gives you that defensive stalwart that off the bench. Dwight howard gives you another big body. They can put inside. I don't know if Therese maxi is going to get minutes in the in the playoffs. But he's been very solid as well but they will want to see george hill. George the guy that i think is going to make the biggest difference for the philadelphia. Seventy sixers team a point guard. You can bring off the bench that can just settle things down for that second unit in playoff basketball. You need those types of players. The miami he thrived with goran dragic being a very level headed player. And that's one of the main me main reasons why they made it to the nba finals. So george hill. We'll have to play a big role for this philadelphia. Seventy sixers team. I think he will. They got all the tools they got. All the personnel. That's why they come in at number two however at number one we got the utah jazz and the reason. I have the utah jazz number. One is because despite not having Was a donovan mitchell. They have been able to continue to play well and stick with the number one overall seed. You gotta give a lot of credit to jordan clarkson of course. Joe ingles as well mike. Conley rigo bear royce. O neil bogdonovich. All those guys are playing extremely well to keep the team afloat. But it's it's impressive that this team in it's an overall team that really carries it so now you add donovan mitchell to that all. This is going to be very hard out in the playoffs. Homecourt advantage for the entire playoffs. And i feel like this is going to be dangerous. So watch off for the utah jazz. Their number one for a reason. And i think they're going to be extremely tough to beat in the playoffs so as always thank you for listening to the gmc basketball. Podcast brought to you by the gmc podcast network. I would like to ask that you. Please remember to subscribe to the show and wrote a nice review. That really helps us. Also if you can please follow us. Facebook twitter and instagram. I would really appreciate it. Thank you and have a great night. You've been listening to the golden state media concepts basketball. Podcast part of the golden state media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like it at www dot jesus mc podcast dot com download. 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NBA Apr. 16 | What You Need To Know

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Twitter linked in whatever's clever. Don't just say it. Make a statement with clear. Flawless texts that sure to impress. No matter what you're writing pet to grammar dot com slash no dunks and sign up today to get twenty percent off. That's twenty percents off bramley premium and g. r. a. m. a. r. l. y. dot com slash. No ducks say what you really mean with. Bramley premium on today show is aldridge shocked the world by announcing his retirement after fifteen seasons. The list of presenters at this year's hall of fame ceremony were announced and boston's jalen. Brown did something that hasn't been done since the nba merger. I just wanted to say merger. Hey i'm tass melles and this is what you need to know in the nba. For friday april sixteen. Hey what's up. Everybody good morning. Let's jump right in because there was some shocking news. On thursday lamarcus aldridge announced his retirement. The seven time all star five time all nba had experienced irregular heartbeat during his final game with the nets on april tenth and it got worse after the game and since then he had been dealing with medical or he had been getting medical advice. Excuse me it's something. He's dealt with his entire career since he was diagnosed in his rookie. Year and aldridge made the decision for his family putting his crew first before basketball and the potential to get a ring with the nets. This season six eleven aldridge came into the league in two thousand six with the reliable jumper because he worked at it. And this is a neat story so go through it here. He heard his hip during his first year at texas and that knocked him out for the season but even though he was in all sorts of pain and couldn't stand he sat on a chair and refined his release point on the shot. He went up higher and higher and higher and he came back with a higher release. Point the patented release point. We've seen for fifteen years in the nba. Now there may be some romance that story sure. But there's also some romance now that we're celebrating his career so let's just get into it but it was a bit of a complicated career throughout his years in portland. In a no six alongside brandon. Roy and brandon. Roy always got a little bit more of the shine there in portland and aldridge at all throughout his career. Lots of reports about aldridge not being entirely happy. Then there was a greg oden draft and he he also felt that there in portland. Despite being an incredible player as i said a seven time all star five time. All mbare then damian lillard came a law and became the number one guy on the team even in two thousand fourteen when lamarcus aldridge had those incredible two games against the houston rockets to start that series where he was a beast forty plus points. In the first two games damian lillard kind of took the spotlight at the end of the series in twenty fourteen against the rockets by hitting the series ending shot so the next year. Mark soldiered said. I'm out of here. He had had enough. The departure was amicable on on both sides. But he got out of there. There was that story about him leaving memphis on his own getting his own flight. If you remember that in two thousand fifteen he went to san antonio we found more peace they're playing with. Tim duncan and then leonard where he found his playoff success as well. They went to the western conference finals. If you remember twenty seventeen that was his first western conference finals. Appearance game one. They're up twenty plus points in the second half as pachulia step under kawhi leonard and that was the end of the spurs run that season. Everybody celebrating aldridge's career a lot of people discussing if he'll be a hall of famer. We'll discuss that on. Today's no dunks daily. Show here on friday. Speaking of the hall of fame. The list of presenters for this year's may fifteenth enshrinement were announced and credible class. This year includes kobe bryant. Tim duncan kevin garnett to make a catching patrick. Bam eddie sutton rudy. Tomjanovich barbara stevens and kim mulkey. Michael jordan will be presenting. Kobe bryant not to speak for the deceased but i assume kobe is smiling somewhere. Hearing that news congressional. Kobe bryant family david robinson will present. Tim duncan isaiah thomas. The original will present kevin garnett alonzo mourning and dawn. Staley will present to make a catch ings. I love to make a catch Got to talk to once. She is great speaking of the hall of fame two time. Mvp yanni's gumbo returned after missing. Six games yeah. I'm going there with left. Knee soreness and it had been bugging him even before those six games that he said he played twenty. Five minutes had a quiet night by his standards as he eased back into the action. But the bucks. Handle the hawks easily so it really didn't matter it was a nice bounce attack for the bucks. Just like coach. Bud likes it. Pj tucker had eight points as he's getting acclimated with his new team to threes and a hook shot. Pj tucker hit a hook shot. you know. it's a good night when pj's in the lane thing. I hated about this game. There were fans in the building in atlanta. But it was louder when there weren't fans and there are piping in the sound it was just so quiet in there because they decided fans of the pipe in the sound it's like the pendulum has swung the other direction. As a hit. My mike you're the pendulum. Bangs the mic. Sorry jd piped in sound with renault fans and now the other direction. It's south so quiet to find bouncier. Bogdan bogdonovich twenty eight points. Six threes on the night. He stays trae. Young was off returning after missing. Two games with a calf injury. Three of seventeen. The hawks are sixteen and six. Since named mcmillan took over as head coach. But they've struggled with playoff teams of those sixteen wins only three against current playoff teams and those team has had injuries. Miami was missing. Jimmy butler lakers. Anthony davis. lebron got hurt in that game. The hornets were without gordon hayward or lamelo ball. It'd beat some teams. On the periphery of the playoffs. Like the spurs worries and pelicans but can they upset a good team in the postseason. They gotta get better if they're gonna do that here over the last twenty ish games. Speaking of the hall of fame steph curry and the warriors took care of cleveland. Easily steph at thirty three. He scored over thirty for his ninth consecutive game. The first time he's done that in his career they're relying on staff now especially with the news. James wiseman season is officially done after undergoing right knee surgery the warriors have won four in a row. Speaking of the hall of fame lakers coach. Frank vogel says. Anthony davis has been cleared to return to encore activity with his official return to the lineup to be determined. Yeah i'm going. I'm going there with everybody. Everybody's making the hall of fame. Looks like anthony. Davis will be back next week because he has defeated his achilles tendon and cafe. Jews the lakers continue to show some fight without anthony. Davis lebron treading water. But they could have used. Anthony davis rim presence against on thursday. Jalen brown was a pleasure to watch. He had a forty point night for boston. Seventeen of twenty shooting. He was getting the ball. And the move got going downhill and no problem with any laker around the hoop. It was fun to watch jaylen brown. Nice setups from brad stevens. Getting him moving around picks and screens getting him down hill again where his athleticism took over. Forty points nine rebounds. Seventeen of twenty shooting. He is the first celtic forty point game on eighty five percent shooting since the nba merger. Thanks to stat muse for that stat. The bulls zach levine. Will miss several games. After entering the nba's health and safety protocols according to espn's atrial. Adrian wojnarowski. I'm not going not going with the hall of fame. Talk for sakhalin. Sorry can't do it. And the sons moved to forty and fifteen in a win over the sacramento kings. What are here for the phoenix suns. Forty and fifteen to start the season. Fantastic news join us for a fantastic show on friday. The drop coming at you from no dunks. I'll be back on monday to give you the news as fast as i possibly can. We'll talk to you then.

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Offseason and NBA Playoffs

Debate Amongst Friends With Doc & Prof

27:35 min | 4 months ago

Offseason and NBA Playoffs

"Welcome back welcome back. Welcome back welcome bad. Welcome to the friends season six. Thank if you haven't recognized the sound of. I d john. This is dr wednesday night him so because duck has a new nickname for this. Wow as he has traveled a lance with through the great plains down to the state of texas he arrived back to the great state of north carolina and has now been dubbed. Doc the kid renegadee regulators mount up. Wow dr kim. hey i'll embrace it. And i will become dr kid. Profit is so good to be back. What and off season but before we jump into that we got a brand new website. Do w and it is alive. They debunks friends. Com dot com. So make sure you all tune into that check out. All of our old shows We're going to have some shirts on. They're for purchase. It's going to be all good and speaking of all good in things. That are new. We have a new the right way to represent a fake and new for a day format. Yes you did not hear incorrectly. Folks monday through friday. You'll be able to listen to the beta bunks friends. A new episode will be is four. Pm eastern standard time. Exactly and i know it's been tough waiting every thursday through monday till way for debate amongst friends to drop again. That's what we say. You know what. Let's give the fans something to really tune into every day. We're going to catch you with the news that takes and the re yes and without phrase with the tier antara. We're gonna give you what you want. Exactly now in honor of j cole dropping his album which is going to be legendary the off season. That's where we figured we would start this segment prop. We had the draft. Actually let's go back. We ended the season with the bucks winning the super bowl needed. And i'm still rat in high is rotten. Heiser wasn't i i was. I cannot start out this season in the line. Lying to the people i will i. It was really blow. You watch the games you know. They were up and down. It's all we want. we want. We discussed this off and on definitely we did. We did a lot of the off season the tampa bay buccaneers as Nears answering defeated the kansas city chiefs in the super bowl which was a great defensive effort so of course i was happy because i'm all about the defense of course But after that we had the draft we did. We had vice launching the dark side. Not only dark side of the ring new season but now the dark side of football. Yes which is also awesome. Something that we're going to make sure we touch on a new show because they're really really good episodes Don't have a lot of sprinkles of wrestling biographies. it was just a lot of sprinkled wrestling. Biographies fell dub w was putting them out. I mean we were just engulfed in biographies online announced a quick plug. You check them out. Checkout wrestling byles on youtube his he basement incredible stuff ball too so it's marches to talk about dark side of the ring inasmuch go to talk about the age of irony and the other stuff that the read legends out wrestling. Bios as well. We would make sure he gets his props for absolutely and of course we're still playing games. We're still doing everything that we normally do. We're going to talk about the game that we just that real quick so we ran the division one back. We said let's run it back at right. Let's get on but he doesn't t shirt on. That's all good. Let's run it back. We played it the first time we knew it was great. We had a great ton of first time. But this time. I said hey. Let's try and really dive deep into this game. Let's get all the phone recordings. let's get all the echoes. Let's get all the missing agents. Let's try and touch every crevice of this map with the exception of that blasted doc zone. Where all the cheese irs lead. That's right. I said it those cheeses out there just waiting for us at the interest. Snipe us as we are loading in scumbag scumbag of the folks. Don't we should actually make a scumbag counter. But we'll definitely cat for like four hundred exactly divisions Since we went back the division. We did everything we leveled up. We decided you know what let's kick the tires some borderlands three and we're back and having a great time absolutely glad that you're enjoying it brother. Oh yeah got me away from l. madame. Just a definite the efl. I've tinkered with matt and not too much but the acid definitely vfl definitely lies solely on the newest madden. Maybe next one will be better. I'm with that. Let's take a quick break and let's get to our main subject of the day or back ladies and gentlemen and b. a. Playoffs will begin tomorrow. But doc the final games of the season concluded the other day on sunday shout to the nba youtube channel for doing a score tracker of all the games so for those that was unable to watch the game. You can at least keep track of the score. They also provide some stats on respond to so if you didn't really have anything to do that was a perfect place. Today dot com. Let's start on the east because we got to play a games happening tomorrow and again. Our thoughts began to provide our predictions for these quickly. While i'm really happy about some of the things that are in the east especially to play in games. And i think this is the main point of this system. You got teams. That really wouldn't be here. You know in indiana in charlotte. They would be out completely. So i like the fact especially a hungry charlotte teen. They're on the cusp of turning it around. So i'm pretty happy. And i believe that because they've been hungry and believe that they're better show win this game. I'm gonna go with us. Well to dave been rolling. I don't think they want their game yesterday. Addicted actually Which of course again. I didn't watch the georgia chatterbox. Gwynn's at at like ten o'clock said no you're you're you're apps. Go with you as well too. I think about indiana has a pretty. I mean remarkable season despite the fact a good team like the half a good team. But they're missing something. But i think charlotte with a lot of people's rookie year of moon in. I mean i feel like they can pull the upset but i do like the format. I think this will give us that little march madness type five well to charlotte excellent and just to let you know here. The pacers did win yesterday. Charlotte actually lost one. The one of the next teams which is the washington wizards who did beat the hornets. The pacers beat the raptors and the celtics lost to the The new york knicks but the second game washington. I'm not sure boston. I have no idea. What is going on their decline is astronomical. It's so big. But i feel like they should win. I obviously got mr triple double on the other side. The new king of triple double to slap them on a triple double wiper. I guess i don't know But they got him in. I'm not sure who's going to win this game. I'm gonna assume that boston would win. But it just depends on if they show. I'm going to go to washington. Boston still has a lot of injuries. Issues i don't think they're like we know that a lot of teams are looking into the playoffs but like this is reevy playoffs and i think the road to the championship. The boston ends in the plan tournament. Kern sold then. We have the rest of the seating bhagat obviously the seventy sixers are the number one seed. They get that little. I guess we're gonna call this a little by mini by. I mini by. Because it's weird starting at the same. All the seeding games are all happening at same time. There's an extra game for teams between seven to ten. That's all i'm okay with it. I'm really happy with it. So you had the sixers one brooklyn still even though they had multiple injuries wound up getting number two seed which is awesome at number three. We have the milwaukee bucks quietly. Just working their way into the playoffs. Have a lot of armor less pressure though For them 'cause obviously last season they were number one and they got knocked out pretty early so i was kinda like not a boom but a bust. Then you have the new york knicks at number four the atlanta. Oh there you go. The atlanta hawks at number five and the miami heat finishing up here at number six bay also felt like they stumbled into the playoffs a little bit as well obviously mentioned out the podcast that they lost victory depot So i don't know how. I don't know how great they're going to be. But against milwaukee they're going to have to step it up to another level to get back to where they were last season. Absolutely i don't know i don't know they'll they'll have that run all right now on a wednesday. We're going to have the west playing games between the memphis. Grizzlies versus the san antonio spurs and the lakers versus the warriors. Boil another team again. Young some experienced players in the mix. Obviously you got pop. You know you don't wanna give pop that extra chance. 'cause i mean. Can you imagine running it from ten. That's going to be such a mad like that would capture that. Nc double a cinderella story which is in attendance. Oh my goodness that would be magical but obviously as much as like pop and pop. Don't get angry complementary msci you china show for his agenda. I did watch it. It was good. I think memphis can take yeah. Jamaran is planning on believable. And i actually really really like somebody other players that they have that. I don't think it's get enough credit But yeah much publicity. That's true and we've talked about that. Actually give the second game yeah true. Oh without question. Now i will say this about the second game is very is interesting. Obviously the mean went around. that said. Hey lebron wanted this last year announced this year. He's against it Just complaining just for the sake of planning. The actually. Don't have a problem with this. I thought this was a brilliant idea number. One if you're seven to ten and you were always on the brink a one game away from being eliminated. So i felt like this was a great opportunity for that. Those last four teams to battle it out. I thought this is a phenomenal idea. And i'm happy that they implemented it in the lakers get eliminated. That's fine with me. Unfortunately they're not going to get eliminated because now they have coming back. Man listen lebron back because he know that this is a listen. Listen here this out. He's coming back because he knows that steph who just one scoring kaido will destroy his team singlehandedly. If of course because he's done that lebron is to be on the floor so that he could even if even lebron on the floor they have the respect. It i don't think. Anthony davis go win it with the guys against staff and his guys. Even though they're not at full strength. I still think golden state will push the lakers to the end of this game. I want the state to win it. But i know the like is going to win. Of course he s now the storylines going to be left laurent wings title coming from the seventeen year. That's the perfect way to call him the that you ain't know how much i hate that. I hate the fact that all the talk about all these conversations than people coming back from three one in a championship game more people having their come from like the seven c to win it all to be called the goat. Like i thought it was all about you. Know dominating your particular air but it's so tell me this 'cause this is the part that really came on deputation. I mean either way. The state of california will win here guam. I didn't get this part here. Which is the winner of nine and ten obviously goes against the guess the winner. Yeah okay so the winner nine ten becomes the eight. Yes and the winner of the seven eight becomes the seven. I wouldn't wanna go play. Phoenix dole wants to go place phoenix. So if i'm i mean if i'm the lakers it stinks because you can't i mean obviously you can't lose because you're out By i would still rather be at the top in the eighth or ninth attempt spots. I can play utah. I'd rather play. Utah phoenix yes. So so if you win the nine ten game they face off against. I looks like you face off against the one. That's saying this picture so weird. Yeah i think it's So it's supposed to be like a double elimination for nine ten so if you win the first one to face off against the winner of nine ten that becomes the eight seed and the winner of debt becomes the sexy jansher so either way you're in it just that's just so you had to play two games. Then you get seated into got it okay when seven eight. You're good you're the number seven c data so hero. I wouldn't wanna play against phoenix. I would do anything. I could to get to play utah if i'm coming out of that california But since we are talking about here number one we have the utah jazz. Who have been balling a season. They do have some injuries. I would still attack. If i'm any of those teams Number two mvp mvp candidate. Chris paul plan outstanding basketball. Repeat ballots may which is hey. Hey we're going to give him the award. We'll maybe we'll have our own. Awards may have our own awards about that lear. The second week yeah we will have our own award so let me at number three denver always a scrappy team. Obviously has some additions during the trade deadline is awesome jamal. murray injuried hurt them dea. Big-time joke itches. Hands down. mvp this and that's why. I have. Michael boorda Up aaron gordon. They have they have some really talented pieces there. You got the clippers. They been kind of hanging around trying to play low key. I feel like this season is last season. They really slapped out last season. Everyone was over hyped. Skin help a. That's why. I said about brooklyn brooklyn taken a number to my milwaukee taking a number three takes that pressure off and puts it smack dab on philly yet. So it's kinda perfect So number five. We have the dallas mavericks. Who luca i mean throughout most of the season played like an. Mvp i just don't think they built a team around him to be successful just yet the team. It's not him it's the embodiment of the team. And i'm not buying kristaps porzingis yet. I think the knicks got a steel. Getting rid of him. Honestly hindsight hindsight of course twenty twenty. But i don't think porzingas. I think getting rid of housing if it was a really really great idea for the knicks again. I think getting rid of people in the front office was just as good if you really think about it because once they were gone the kp trade s when we started to make baby steps instead of trying to make leaps imbalance. But i do agree him on dallas's no pretty good. I think they just the it's just channel find a way to click honestly really think about it. I personally don't agree. I think that he's i dunno. I thought he is a liability. And it's time to trade him. It would have been this past day trade deadline. But i know you've been on an on and off. The injured list saw hard but nonetheless the number five seed number six. We got portland. Who always make the playoffs. Exciting at least they just don't win you know like they don't win. Think it's getting towards the town where they need to break the band up. Yeah and i know that there are a couple of coaches on the hot seat. Obviously we talked about after podcast. But on the podcast. This is a guy here. stocks is. It's it's that's going to be on the hot seat. Obviously in milwaukee we didn't talk about mike wouldn't holder being on the hot seat. It this is one of those times where you have to either. We're going to just say each or get off the pot in portland as broken. My rockets hearts many times just to lose in the next round. So you know we get the by dame occasionally they get sent home the next week Typically so it's like it's always that next game like you think thereby to take that next step and then they get back down And then obviously we got seven to ten. But it's going to be an interesting play-off nonetheless. i love the new format. I'm really looking forward to playing games. But let's take a quick break. We'll come back with more debate amongst rennes right after the We're going to start with the unfortunate passing of our music icon. Earl simmons d. m. x. We definitely quoted him many times growing up. And i don't hood so we definitely wanted to catch up with you all and just take a quick second and honor the mx. Thank you And with that we want to bring up and uplift. We mentioned earlier. Tim duncan speech at the hall of fame ceremony. This past week What a great rate speech by the way But let's go over. Some of these are hall of famers from twenty twenty class boil. I mean let's get straight to. I mean anything is possible. I feel like people only recognised just for net quote. But we're talking about one of the most Hard working contended players. That you ever see. I mean i always enjoy watching cagey play. My place didn't reflect it. Always enjoy the way that he incorporated both the physical aspect of the game have mental aspect of the game and the psychological aspect of the game in the fact that he tech-rich have his banner put into teams minnesota in boston without question. And i think honestly. I love what tim duncan said about him and coby pushing him really really that that class that this class really made basketball fun. I'll say that The utmost confidence and one of my favorite coaches really t- getting in and actually saying that he hit me check right in stating out loud for the public here. That robert ory should be next. Oh he's not to hold. I know he did. Yeah yeah yeah. But i feel like it was a really really good event Obviously it would have been great if kobe would have been there. At obviously to give the speech south of it s a bryant bodily of who speech like almost drove me to tears like and it keeps going back to what we keep talking. We always talk about the street and off the stream about why people don't appreciate these. Public figures will be hat though and it's always postmortem as when they really want to try to appreciate all. They had contributed to the game basketball. I feel like that's a disservice. I just feel like it. It just puts things into perspective. I guess for life and we're going to end on a high note. It puts things into perspective. Especially when you look at the likes of to be Excuse me to meek catching and barbara stevens You know an kim mulkey actually It just puts things into perspective that you know. It's going to be any of them. And these these guys are larger than life to to most of us we see them work on and off the court and when somebody loses their lives so early and he was an early loss. You know It just hurt so bad. And i definitely wish that he would have been there to actually give his own speech. Of course his daughter as well in the stands. We know they were looking down applauding from heaven there. And lastly and this is a high note. Because i mean i feel like this guy's been doing this forever marv albert their mauve alba calling it a career in said i'm done saying and one and the foul. I'm not gonna do this anymore. i'm legend. i'm already a legend at it is no need for me to be out here anymore. Mike breen bang takeover and people have been saying danglot. He really a good job. He does i mean he he doesn't the most opportune time in and i think that's something that's missing from these other commentators and analysts like they tried to do the cash but they don't have the right timing you know like timing is everything but yeah albert decided to call it a career. He will finish his career at the eastern conference finals. Last time we'll hear and the foul and fallas conic and really drove nineties basketball. Like when you heard that. I'm how it was so perfect but definitely drove the am one. Yes yes But with that ladies. Thank you ladies home guinness. I'm thinking platform all ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much for tuning into today's episode of debate amongst france. We are back and better than ever and we will be back tomorrow. You'll hear this at or pm. Monday through friday tune in tomorrow now next week tomorrow for more news. More analysis and the reas- recipes grandma.

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Hour 3: Early Thanksgiving

Izzy and Spain

33:54 min | 3 years ago

Hour 3: Early Thanksgiving

"Spain and Fitz Spain Vits on ESPN radio the ESPN app. Siriusxm channel eighty Sarah. Spain Jason Fitz. Got all sorts of MBA drama to get you into. Yeah. Before that, I have to interrupt you. I say, please. So if you calling the last segment we were talking about how the new cardinals head coach Steve Wilks has been flying under the radar, and I said, and you agreed that we wouldn't really recognize most people wouldn't recognize de Wilton tonight's that. I'd be more likely to recognize Steve wilko's the former security guard for the Jerry Springer show who now has his own show. And then I said do they look like wouldn't that be amazing? And then I googled them. And no, no because Steve wilko's is bald white man with bright lies as Steve Wilks is African American and has plenty of hair. So the answer is well p-. And and if you needed any proof that he was flying under the radar. I think that's it. Well, you know, either way Wilkes wilko's I'd send them both flowers. ESPN radio presented by progressive insurance. Your thoughts on the one eight hundred flowers dot com Twitter feed. Yeah. That's that's alarming side-by-side difference between the two. Google them. Dan, laboratory for making me feel free to announce that I did not know Steve Wilks, look like. Announces midshow. Does anyone know who coaches the nets? To just admit it. I'll be honest. I knew he was the defensive coordinator and Carolina before I got the job. That's all I knew about him. So basically wilko's to well, I hoped hope the word I wanted their Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio sarahspain Jason Fitz and look before we before we get to some of the drama going on in the NBA, obviously injury has been a conversation, and the cares Vert dislocated ankle, which before we even get into the actual play amazing that it's only a dislocated angle ankle. And that he will be able to come back because it obviously was horrific. But a reasons the question, you know, I had friends in life that will look at you. And you see their eyes get big with their phone, and that, you know, they speed walk over to with the all my God, you've got to see this. It means that you absolutely don't wanna see whatever it is you don't want. So are you like a horrific injury got to see it or no. Oh, this is a good question. Actually, I'm curious what other people will have to ask the listeners to I'll put up a poll. I I will do it on the one eight hundred flowers terrific. I'm an absolute no, I especially can't stand ankle injuries because I've had many of them. So watching someone suffer a bad ankle injury is an absolute no for me. Also after I tore my achilles. I became very sensitive to that particular injury and not long ago. I made the mistake of watching a female trainer who was doing box jumps. And she had her camera set up to focus just on the backs of her legs as she did box jumps and her achilles ruptured while she did it, and it was in slow MO. Yeah. It was so awful and the PTSD lasted for like a week every time it popped back into my. It was like so no person that if someone says oh my God. This is a horrific injury. Don't watch it. I'm like, okay, cool. No, I will not never seen. What's his face from Louisville? Ever watched that one. In fact, this tells you how much I I work in sports and for the entirety of my life. I avoided seeing the Joe thighs -ment injury. Really the entirety of my life. I managed to avoid in fact at my old job at Fox Sports net way back when they would try to follow me around in the room and trick me into seeing it. They would be like, hey, check this out. And I'd be like, no, I'm onto you. You're going to get me to watch the thighs, man. And then I'm sitting in the movie theater, and I'm watching the movie the blind side. And I did not know what was coming. The reason I finally had to watch that terrible horrible gruesome injury was that. I went to watch some darn movie with Sandra Bullock that is awful, man. That is I feel for you, sir. Like you made it that far it so long. God. I I don't even know God how you managed to miss it that long as it is the worst of the worst. There's no doubt. It is. I've always been the guy that avoids all of them. I mean, I don't want anything to do with any any sort of injury. Kevin ware. That's the guy and thinking of from Louisville. There was a there was a raiders player years ago. Napoleon McCallum that was injured and they had to airlift him out of the stadium to save his leg. And it went the wrong way. And I remember they continually showed the replay over and over and over again. And at the time, I was still young. And I watched it and ever since it was like, no, I'm completely out on injury place. So whenever like, even when you're looking at just the shock video shock and all of the general like guy jumping off of his roof the whole time. I'm like, I don't want to. I never watched those. No, I don't wanna see people get gravely injured. I don't even wanna see people rack their junk on a skateboard video which that's too much for me. And I can admit my own hypocrisy that I love watching horror movies. So you would think like, oh, I'm in for anything gruesome, I like calculated grotesque snus, I'm fine with. But if it's an actual like injury sufferer again, when you hear somebody just let out the blood curdling scream during a game, and you know. No, it's serious. I'm done. I'm out completely. Yeah. I'm sorry. I don't wanna watch someone suffered by choice. Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio fights, by the way, because I don't watch fights either. No, I'll watch like a UFC fight. But I won't like two people fighting on the thing though, like on world star hip hop. Like, you know, you know, I do not wanna see people punching each other and break each other's faces and possibly suffering serious injury. I have to point out are fantastic production team on this team on the show do great work in. Vince. His is realized that November eighteenth nineteen eighty-five was the thighs -ment injury. Never twentieth. Two thousand nine when the blindside was released. So you got through twenty four years before you were blindsided. Well done. Thank you. I can't. Well, we played can't really take credit Ford. It's all Vince Spain and Fitz Sarah since we're going to get back in a few minutes. Do you want to do a little bit of listen live radio workshop here? Do you want to go a little bit to the non to the pod you on? Let's do it. Let's do a little nod to the pod, and we like to do this usually most Thursdays, and it's a little sneak peek at my podcast for the week to hopefully, get people inspired to go head over to the SPN app, or I tunes wherever you get your podcast and listen to that's what she said was Sarah Spain, and this is a really good one. So Brian Koppelman who is one of the creators and writers of billions on Showtime, some are arguing that it's the best show on television right now is avid, Twitter user and sports fan. And so when he started following me in that long ago when I started following him and what his career's been about. They gotta get him on the pod. So one of the things that we talked about which I found really intriguing was that he was music. An argh I in fact, helped discover Eddie Murphy, and Tracy Chapman and done. Production for them really early on when he was still in high school and college was having a successful career. And then around thirty was like, you know, what I want to be a writer. I want to work in TV and film and had to make that pivot and decide that it was worth, you know, fighting the fears of of of what might come in the reviews that might follow. And here's a little snippet from that's what she said. Here's this week's nut to the pod. Very two of us around credibly there came out in time and Newsweek and time and Newsweek where basically in every home in America, and they were on the news fans six days before any other reviews. There was some snapper where they reviewed it a week early. And they both killed the movie and killed us. And it was our first movie, and I really thought career was over. And I. I went into my parents house that we get with my wife at our young kids at the time and sought at review, and I just like went into my old kids room where I grew up and I like went into the fetal position on the floor. Then the next morning I woke up, and I realized. And I thought that has no power over me. I can just go right now to the computer, and I can write something I can still think the fame thought for more proof subscribe to that's what she said with Sarah Spain on the ESPN app apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. And he was talking about his first movie rounders which. Ended up having much critical acclaim it and more cult status among its viewers than anything else. But the idea that you at thirty something with a kid and family and people depending on you decide to try something new and your very first effort with your friend who's been a friend for years, and is now you're writing partner gets panned on in his reaction to it. I thought was huge fits. And it reminded me of something. I believe it was Tina Fey wrote in her book, never take a no from someone who can't give you a. Yes. Meaning if this person's not standing between you and what you want, and they're not able to give you any push towards what you want. Then why would you let their no slow you down? And I wondered as I was as I was listening to that. Again. If you've had if you had a failure early in music, or or even in your attempts to switch over to sports that you found a way not to take to heart and didn't allow to stop you. Yeah. You know? And it's funny because I think you know, failures sort of just part of what what you have to learn to deal with and it's funny mentioned review 'cause I so distinctly remember the first time I've. Ever played on a project that was reviewed, and I ran and got the newspaper the next day. And they just trashed me. I mean, just destroyed me. It was so hard. We're bad known. Another just said, I was worried about running around like a barren a bike and not not playing very well bear on the pike. It was the actual quote. I'll never forget you did to work on your stage presence get well. Yeah. Because it was just a little too over the top form. But you shocking. Yeah. I know you're so excited in that moment coma. God they reviewed the show. And then you look at it you find out it's terrible. But, but when I think specifically to fill, you know, I'm always the first to admit, my my podcast that got me why did very well for for a long time. But ultimately, the end it didn't. I mean, there were some transition points for it. And it just sort of died on the vine and the the pod was doing well. And and at the time I signed a deal with somebody. And and then all of a sudden there were a lot of screw ups on on everybody's parts. And there was a real part for me where I had to sit down. And I was like man, I don't I don't know if I'm ever going to get that opportunity. And I'd was even floundering trying to figure out what was going to go on with the SPN. I'd I'd met with some people. But nobody was really there wasn't really a home for anything. And I was sitting there thinking men I've worked really hard on this. But I don't know that I even know how to bridge through this gap. And that was the moment. I just sat down and said, well, it doesn't really matter if my subscribers don't where I need them to be in the successes that where I'm going to make it. I'm just gonna keep. Doing shows. And I'm going to hope that at some point somebody listens to it. And that was about three months before I got the call from ESPN. So it's funny that my podcast was at its worse than it ever was when I actually got the launching pad to go to ESPN. Yeah, it's interesting when I was talking to him because he was able to make that switch and do the thing he loved most. He talked a lot about the book the artist's way, and that's been powerful and important to creative types artists for a long time. But the idea of being a shadow artists where you put yourself near the thing that you want to do, but you don't believe in yourself enough to do it. And I sometimes feel like I'm doing that. With my podcast. I'm always inviting on comedians, Saturday Night Live cast members musicians people who do the jobs that I wanted to do growing up, and then I moved to L A and gave it a shot, but not a real shot. When I when I transitioned and found my way to doing some sports stuff and realized that it was smoother and easier and felt more natural and more in my wheelhouse. Because of my history, I just kind of made the leap, and I love it. And I love what I'm doing. There's always a part of me when I'm around people doing that thing that I always dreamed of that makes me think of what if I'd stuck around a little longer when I had done the work instead of worrying about whether the work would be good enough. Because you you can't be a writer unless you right? Can't be an actor unless you act, you know, the way you said you just kept doing the thing. And then that's how it got discovered. You know, I've said before the the there was a period for my podcast, right? I had an episode, and I think it was Peter King and fall out boy came on the same episode, and I had like twelve thousand listens out of the gate. And I was like man this is like I'm crushing it for a guy that had. No backing like I was doing really well. And the next week the next episode. I had no guests because I was like man, I got all these people listened last. We've come in. And I went from two thousand twelve it was under one hundred listen episodes, and I looked around like what in the heck am I doing in those are the moments where I just I I I didn't even know how to climb the next wall. And it becomes really easy. I think when you when you become consumed with this is what I wanna do you become so consumed with how do I do it? Instead of hey, I'm just going to do. And that was yeah. That was the biggest key for me. You know, even even when he has PM finally did call one of the things that that really impressed. Everybody is that through the hordes schedule. I'd had for the last several years touring. I did a podcast every week. And some of them had good listens. And some of them didn't. But it was just the, hey, I've been here, and I've shown the body of work in the dedication to it. And you never know. I always tell people you never know what song somebody's gonna decide to listen to you never know what podcast. Somebody's gonna listen to his your demo. And that was the case for me. I had no idea that the show that was being listened to was being listened to and it helped change my life. So there is some element of you just got to get out there and fearlessly. Do it and not worry about the result. But that's also incredibly easy to say an incredibly hard to do Sarah Spain and Jason Fitz Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio and ESPN app. And you know, my interview with Brian Koppelman who before I did the interview I didn't realize that he'd had this incredible history and other jobs, but there were so many aspects of it that I found really inspiring one of them was at forty years old. He decided to try his hand at stand up comedy. He wanted to get out of his comfort zone. He wanted to do something that scared him, but that he'd always been interested in and then near the end, if you listen to the podcast, he talks about how if you choose to define your day than you get to define whether it was sesser not so instead of letting others decide or being let down you can rewrite what failure and success are. So if you decide for your day today fits I wanna do a radio show a Spain and X Y. And then you do all those things then that can be a success for you. And I think making it more realistic and attainable is a huge step to like taking this. Steps toward where you wanna be instead of thinking big picture, but I have to be the best. It's a great point. But it's just hard to say, hey, I'm just going to put out a song. It'd be happy with it. There's always that. But the songs got to go to number one other total failure. But a lot of people wait for perfection, and they don't do it at all Spain and Fitz where did try this again with our buddy, Nick free. Del best of the best now covering the warriors out there. We've got a lot of drama not only because the Draymond game suspension and the alleged beef going on between him and Durant about Durant's contracts at us, but also Steph curry to miss at least the next ten days because of his strained, right? Groin before. He'll even be reevaluated so out at least the next four games in Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio at the espionage and Sirius XM channel eighty Sarah Spain and Jason Fitz, and let's get back to the shell Pennzoil performance line presumably onto a different room or a different phone. Let's get back to Nick free del. No, more digital roaming. None of these weird plans. You're on. Let's step. It up buddy. We're at the world by later. Here. Tell us your take because the concern here is that this is not a problem that can be easily smoothed over this will haunt them all season long. If having Durant's contract is in question. At this point, the only the only thing they can beat the warriors are the warriors himself, and I like a lot of people right after the incident in LA you talking to guys in the locker room, you're thinking that'll blow over and then it comes out that they suspend Raymonde, and you're gonna you know, he ain't Kevin gotten into it before still picking a blow over and I've listened to Kevin last night. Kevin Durant is not happy yet. He is really upset with. I think a lot of stuff that came out, of course, that game in unless Raymonde and come in tomorrow morning and quash it in the media and then behind closed doors quash what's going on with the Andrey mon- or she moved. He Kevin get it together. I do think this thing could link winger, but this team is so talented so talented that if. Stay healthy. I still don't think it would derail them this year. But of course, the caveat is is Kevin Durant. Gonna wanna stay long term and Golden State if he doesn't get along well with everybody else Nick to that end. Do you believe that the team that conspiracy theory of the team has to really take to rance back back in this employment dream on in some ways to make sure that the Katy knows moving forward. They've always got his back. Absolutely. It's absolutely. You're the warriors. You're taking every step that you have to right now. To make sure the Kevin Durant knows that they are there for him. And they wanna make it as comfortable for him as they can possibly do it because let's face it. If the choice is cheap. Kevin Durant long-term and keep him happy or teach dream on long-term pay him a massive extension in the next few years and keep him and keep him abbey. You picking Durant every single time. I mean Durant in this guys is like a super size of broad in in what we saw last summer in. What we've seen the last few times he's gone through free agency because Kevin rain just turned thirty. If he stays healthy. He will be the new king of the league moving forward. He's going to surpass lavar because he has that much talent. So there's no question that Golden State as an organization they're doing everything they possibly can. To make sure that Kevin Durant knows that we push comes to shove they have his back will be enough long-term. We're gonna see talking to Nick free. Dial on the shell Pennzoil performance line at Spain and fits so, you know, fits just kind of alluded to this. But let's take it one step farther. Even if everyone on the team wants Katie to stick around. They understand his talent they are apart of trying to woo him to stick around and Golden State. There is still a difficulty of being on a team knowing that someone is being coddled knowing that it might be at your expense that the team decides to placate that person to make them feel good about themselves dream on might even feel that way about this suspension. How does that look going forward if the other guys in the team feel like they're getting slighted in order for the slobbering all over Katie to happen? Good question in the only way that everything that you just laid out can get these detention within the locker room at the moment is dream on and Katie sit down and work through it. And then everybody went Kevin comes back in the locker whipped Ray mind that they talk it out. And it's so interesting to me because I just talked to dream on about a week you're half ago about how she keeps. Kevin Durant and check and Kevin Durant keeps him at check. There is a balance there between those two guys because they get a motion and they badly want to win and had speak. They both understand what their planes for this year in trying to go back back back and make that history. So there there are so many layers here to this. But there is no question if everybody needs to get on the same page and wants to continue. The happiness that comes with winning. It will be up to Durant and to Dray my city together and make it work. And I would add is guys I think is very telling Steph curry was not on that trip when they were at Staples the other night, and and he's not gonna play for at least a couple more weeks here, but he's coming on this Texas trip and Steph is the middle. Glue keeps this this thing moving when these kind of episodes happened between these two guys. So I think that having Steph here in Texas is really going to ease. What's going on in the moment? So Nick if order is never restored between the two guys this year. Do they still win the NBA championship? Absolutely. I mean. These guys when they're healthy. Nobody is going to touch them. And I know the the conspiracy theories are out there. All can they can they make it work after everything that's happened. Yes. They I've talked to both of them about their own relationship. And obviously this is before the incident LA, but they know how how much they will be revered and looked upon in history. If they go back to back to back. So there might be drama all up and down the season. If they can't get this thing together in the next couple of weeks here. It does not matter to me. There is way too much talent on top of the fact that they're going to get boogie cousins some point here next month to think that this episode in whatever comes next is going to derail them to the point where they won't win. Another title talking to the SPN NBA reporter Nick free now on the shell Pennzoil performance line. You can follow him on Twitter at Nick free. Dow, so let's say this year is it. Even to talented, whatever the cracks star they'll find a way to win. Again. It's starting to feel more and more likely than it's also a given that Durant's gone. We've got a guy on that team. Who according to the Atlantic's Marcus Thompson told him he's as good as gone already. So if that's the case is the focus then of this year half as much about winning now as it is about how to keep it together going forward. Yeah. You have to win too. Because if you don't win now, whatever may happen when whatever may come in the summer, you, you know, you're never sure of of exactly how it's going to unfold them in the Mets why I feel so strongly even after this episode that they will find a way, and it wasn't the guys. It wasn't like before they didn't think that how to a good chance to leave in the summer. One of the things remind told me he said, you don't think we hear all Kevin's horse. We hear it. But we are totally invested in what we need to do this season. And I think what happened the other night was they had worked so hard to get back in that clippers game. And obviously Katie was upset very much. Did you give them the fall and dream on was upset that Kevin been one with him down? The floor 'em in some frustration comes out, but they have to win this year to cover up. Anything may happen. I think this is been something that is hovered around the organization for the last couple of months they've tried to downplay it at every turn. But it's there now it's come out if you win this season everything else will take care of itself. Moving forward in that the word is still feel confident guys that even if the ramp were to lease if he leaves this summer, they still have what they need in order to try and win it yet. And they'd still probably be the savor it depending on where Kevin where to go. But in the short term, if you sold this on what you need to do, and you take care of business and soon everything else will fall into place. However, it goes and their place in history will be secure. It's good stuff. Nick. I have to ask you before. We let you go. When you hear that there's a gruesome injury, and it's not dare grows or someone else that you're covering do you actively seek out to watch it or do you avoid it? Oh, come on. Now, you're talking to a guy who wants senior night in school guys like broken in half. I one of heart of looking at any of those injuries, my idiot friends in high school when I was coming out of the hospital used to replay all the videos on my computer because they thought it was funny. So that's my context. I forgot about that. I had a ride, but in my leg. Don't have one. Nope. Mardell any any of that gruesome this that I feel awful for anybody has to go through it? I agree. And now, we know I didn't make it to the NFL dream. Hey, we love you, Nick. Thanks. Thanks for figuring out. Your phone, buddy. Spain and fits best of us have thanksgiving next week. And it's an early one this year twenty-second, but an extra early Turkey day for my buddy fits who never stops working and always finds time to fill in for others. So they can enjoy the holidays, which means his thanksgiving is tomorrow. It's pain in bits on ESPN radio, the espionage and Sirius XM channel eighty Sarah Spain and Jason Fitz with you. And this is not the first time you have picked an arbitrary Thursday for thanksgiving. No, I do it all the time. I mean, especially for all the years of touring music. You're you're busy November December busy times for Christmas tours, and you have a lot of obligations for press stuff. A lot of times with the ward shows and everything around thanksgiving. So you're always slammed at thanksgiving. So for as long as I can remember I've had to pick an arbitrary Thursday in do fake thanksgiving. That is impressive dedication to continuing the tradition versus just saying, well, I guess it miss it. And we'll have Turkey at Christmas or. Something right. Everybody else else out more than a bums me. Usually like, if you're you've just gone on thanksgiving. I is some gives everybody the tends. Plus means the people like people in Tennessee are going to get to thanksgiving you giving sign me up. That's why we do a Friendsgiving because then you get two meals. One of them has more booze figure out which one it probably depends on what your family's like more people. See you drink, right? We'll talk a little more about his thanksgiving. Tomorrow all encourage everybody to tweet him happy thanksgiving tomorrow. So that fits feels like he's, you know, really connected to the holiday, but since you're eating cornucopia of foods buffet, a smorgasbord, a wide array a myriad. That's the number of words. I can think of right now tomorrow, we're going to do a little sports buffet and want to start with an incredible milestone last night and c Vivian stringer. Rutgers coach gets hurt one thousand career win and the build up to it was. Great. You know, she comes in all business, but everybody in the stands has t shirts handmade signs in larger than life photos of her kind of, you know, an anticipating this incredible milestone, and it was really cool to watch and to see her being mobbed by reporters. And and have the fans going nuts for her. This is a very exclusive club fits in division one women's basketball. It's just Pat summitt at Tennessee, Tara VanDerveer at Stanford, Gino, Auriemma, Connecticut and Sylvia hatchet, North Carolina, one division to coach Barbara Stevens has done it on the men's side. Just coach K that's crazy to think of it. Look, I can I can obviously having lived in Tennessee for longtime speak to the impact that Pat summitt has had still has to this tendency and to sports fans around Tennessee when you have a special coaches like this. It's really incredible. They get it by beating the blue devil Seventy-three forty four. But I thought it was interesting that even when she was being asked about it leading up to her only concern was. I want to get it over with. So the players aren't burdened with it. And it's just. Right. Yeah. It's such a coach's mentality. And it was cool. They had after the win. She got a bunch of confetti dumped on her, and they take her over to a chair under the basket and had a bunch of video tributes from Kobe Bryant and David Stern, Billie. Jean king? Whoopi goldberg. The inside the NBA crew all the other coaches in the one thousand wind club. They did it right for an congrats the c Vivian stringer. That's a heck of a milestone, and we transition seamlessly in our buffet from the Turkey to actually know coming up next. It's clearly the Turkey. It's Mike Leach who gives us great soundbites about tracking a raccoon in his backyard or why he hopes that aliens exist and Bigfoot and this time he was asked if there was a brawl between all the coaches in the Pac twelve all the football coaches who would win this is what he had to say well based on their players. Call would be I mean, those guys hitches ours. Anybody in the conference? Let's see some good shape. Okay. Kevin. Kevin. Erm Edwards is in great shape. When we think of as Emma missing anybody, and I don't really care if they get ticked off because actually privately I think I would. But we're going to be more modest than that. I'm going to say Cuyler her for sure Cuyler harm. Both in shave for why simple this age if you're in shape, you got a chance they're both in great shape. You know, you look I mean, they're both shape. They both exercise five Kamaruddin, Chris, Oregon. You don't wanna get tied up with him. You don't wanna you know, wanna let him hands on because he has big and he's got long levers. You don't want to get those things on. He would be dangerous. So there's no question formidable for sure now. Now. Coach would you lease fear? I can't say that. No, no, no. We already went down that hole too far. All right. I love it. And I love how he entertains the question. So I'm putting you on the spot fits ESPN daily radio schedule. Who is the most formidable foe? And who is the easiest I will remind you. We've got go Joe we've got Mike Golic senior. We've got Trey wingo. Dan lebatardshow? Stugatz. Stephen A will Cain you and me, and Freddie and the infant Simmons. I could take to guts easily. So that one you pick on someone your own side. Oh, yeah. No straight for Stu gods. The most of all though, trade trays trays up there to like trees, not a fight and chase you Stu guts. But he was a football player portray trae at this stage. Does tonight's he's placing withdrawal? He's a lot of golf. He's too. He's too passive to have that level of argument and would play dirty. Yeah. That's what he would have Schiff hidden somewhere. But I'm still gonna say Stu is the easiest. Oh, wow. Beat gets clipped off. I'm us. I'm scared of Steven A before the brawl starts because he's gonna talk me. He's gonna timid eight me, but you know, sneak and I think, you know, my golick senior seniors, the most formidable I mean, he's he got he's still does the orange theory thing. Yeah. I mean, he can he can just destroy me. Juniors. A close second will came third. And then Stephen. Wow. So Freddie and Fitz Simons, don't even deserve a mention. No, I mean fit fits I'll just hug fits to that. So like, I got that. I'm Freddie might be the nicest person at all of ESPN. So I think like, even if you were punching, Freddie, Freddie, be like, you know, what like if this makes you feel better. Like, I'm that's okay, buddy. I I love you like I could see that, Freddie. He's so nice. I agree with a lot of what you said. But I'm going younger golick. I realized that senior is in great shape, but that old man strength is I think a little overrated when compared to someone in their twenties string not long ago was I forgive because Mike. I mean, it's really annoying line. Really, by the way, congrats on that thirty under thirty thing. Young up Spain infants here Spain and j it's giving you a buffet of sports as we get ready for fits as early thanksgiving celebration tomorrow, I asked you on Twitter, I asked you guys if you are given the option do you watch or avoid watching when you hear the athlete has suffered a horrific gruesome injury, a thighs meant a Kevin ware as we recently saw liver and fifty eight percent of you said avoid it forty percent of you said watch it Dan Garza five one to said watch while eating. Oh, damn. What's wrong with you? But fifty eight percent going on the right side of that on a Twitter poll. We got good listeners bands. Good follow. I I don't have good followers. I don't know what I'm saying. But they showed a spark of brightness. They're really quickly. Also wanted to mention that the Mets Jacob degrom and the raise Blake's now take home Cy Young awards, the Graham ten and nine and MLB low one seventy ERA he got all, but one of the first place votes beating out sherzer and Aaron knoll and one of the funniest things is that the guy giving him the ward said he got a lot more support from the baseball writers that his teammates this year. Oh my God. I just love seeing ten and nine with a woman. Seventy eight twenty one in five with a one eighty nine. If that tells you anything about the Mets God to grandma nation as they said on the MLB handle. Hey, thanks for listening fits enjoy Turkey day tomorrow. I know you YouTube to the parade from death. I got nineteen Eighty-four is Macy's day parade ready for your such a weirdo. And I love it so much.

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Celtics Beat Wolves, Hornets or Wizards in Play In Tournament, Kevin Garnett HOF

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Celtics Beat Wolves, Hornets or Wizards in Play In Tournament, Kevin Garnett HOF

"Okay? Want to tell you about one of our sponsors, BetOnline, our exclusive wagering partner, BetOnline of course, where you get all your actual NFL football, NBA basketball, and BetOnline, AG is the place you want to go home, more options to wager than anywhere else online. So mine today, take advantage of all the great mid-season bonuses offers and content that online. Your online Sportsbook experts, use the code clns 50, when you go to bed online. Once again, betonline.ag code CLS, 53 to get you 50% off your initial deposit. Hey, welcome in South next. Timberwolves game 71. We're almost a Tuesday there for looking cast here with Nick. Gelso smoke bone, in his face off against the rage, your seeming, even on a win-win. Do you believe the Celtics blew out the Timberwolves? Today, I was watching on the go, I came back and watched the second half years. In the house and I just couldn't believe it's the lead. Got bigger and bigger as many as twenty one. In this one, the Timberwolves never made that rally know the young guys and Tatum and Fournier just took place in Minnesota. I know there has been down on Minnesota. All year. He hates that team. So probably wasn't a surprise in the him but he like, here's the thing. I don't hate the team. I just hate the way that they called them. Really, that doesn't mean I hate him and that doesn't mean I'm wrong. I mean when you when you play as pathetic as they do, I think you've earned the moniker of being referred to as a g League team that digs I hate him. I love Anthony Edwards, cat. I think it's just kind of coasting, I mean, I think you can get you 20 and 10 without batting an eyelash and D'Angelo is just a shot chucker. I'm sorry I can do without yeah, but Karl Anthony towns. He's, I mean, he's got some spice to him or something. I just want to know. I wanted to go somewhere. I want cat to go somewhere and start over because I think he's a good dog. Claire I just don't think he's motivated so and engage to be an amazingly awesome player, which I think is Talent. Frankly is aligned with and Anthony Edwards. I love him. Well oh yeah, he's he's off. He's been I just wrote about him and police report this week and again just talking with different Scouts about him and just how he has. Frankly, he's off their franchise. Hope that if they move on from cat, they've got a very clear and undeniable face of the franchise type player that they can lean on and they can frankly be that guy and if you watch them play off like Miss Smith is a great Energy. Great hustle guy, he had nothing for Anthony, I mean Anthony got wherever he wanted to when he wanted to and there was nothing that needs me for any of the other cells could do. I didn't think Anthony wage all that engaged in this game either and he still had a pretty pretty good performance and he did enough things to remind us just how special player he is, and he should be the Rookie of the Year in my I was going to ask. Yeah. Well, mellow is the favorite right now. I think he's missed too many games. Yeah, same thing. Yeah, it's not about his ability cuz if, if both of those guys played the same amount of games this year, I would lean towards the middle but he missed the significant portion of the season and to me both of them play on teams that aren't very good. So I can't use the whole success ratio to justify one guy over the other Charles a little bit better situation in Minnesota obviously, but it's not like Minnesota is the worst team in Charlotte is like top four top-five charlot is barely in the whole postseason conversation off. Either maybe the maybe the knives C depending on what happens, you know, in your last game. But Minnesota this was this for the Celtics. This was a A much-needed Victory, it showed what they could do when they lay the hammer down on bad teams. But the problem with that is, I'm not sold as a teams that they will see in the first, and then play a game are bad, George Washington. I think is bad, just because they don't have Bill Charlotte, they won't have Gordon Hayward, but I still think they got enough pieces to give the Celtics legitimate threat. The one thing I wanted to ask you guys was just come up here today. You got school with it. Now, I know when you saw the ankle impingement that one up here on the injury list again, I thought he was going to be out, but I might have had in played and I was I was almost preparing myself for that to earlier in the day because he's chasing that all NBA. He's doing whatever that that's what drives me couldn't. Hear them about the money. I don't care about the money million. Dude, I get it but you still, you play every game, right? And then you make the 30 million, but yep. And he's not all of a sudden going to get all NBA because he played today. But anything I don't give it to him because he played today. I'd be like this guy's patents. Sadly for a 20-second 1170. The voters are going to own number. This one, twenty six and eleven against Minnesota. That was and that was my you are going to put up numbers against a bad team. Yeah, that's not going to get it done. That you've gotta do what guys like Julius Randle is doing and put up big numbers and big games to give your team a little bit more of a cushion when playoffs standpoint to me I think that's when you look at them they teams. I think that what that last spot you're going to see guys like Tatum Julius Randle. I think are going to be two of the guys that are going to be buying for one of those last spots and I think a strong case can be made for Jewish Randall based upon his team. Success based upon the role that he plays in his team's success and based upon what he's been able to do. Now Tatum can certainly image Like that narrative in the final game cuz I do believe he will play. I wouldn't play him. But I my my gut tells me he's going to convince Brad to let him play, whether it's going to be 26 minutes. Like it was today that remains to be seen, but I do believe you'll be out there. I don't think he's going to be out there tomorrow. You have the rest. You can't play a back-to-back, two days before you're playing a win-or-go-home? Well, yes he can. He's going to play in the Olympics. He played in the All-Star Game and he know. But we're talking about three games and I know we're days at this point. So I think, at that point, the medical staffs gotta come in and be like nope. But when it comes to that all NBA race that first teams a lock it's jokic, it's m b. I don't know how you feel about that. Nick that they're going to put two centers on that all NBA 16 this year to do it. Yah de yah Luca and Steph Curry on that first team second-team. You're probably looking at feel maybe a dog. Is the nearest scoring champion, you know, Randall's, probably on that 13 tried. So he's definitely far from a lock at this point on this list. You're looking at lured. You looking at Chris Palmer you looking at Kauai this was that you know, Paul George is going to be in that conversation too. And we don't even mention this guy named LeBron James. Yeah, what about him? I think I am Davis. They don't deserve it. I I agree. I agree. They don't deserve it. But let's be honest. I mean would you be shocked if LeBron is like second or third-team? I wouldn't Thursday on in there too. Right, here's an easier one to go to push off to the side because it's team, they they suck. And their, their talents does not align with the with the team. They should be better than they are. I know they've had issues and they've had injuries but they should be about Tatum is going to have a hard time making that third all NBA teams. It's going to be tight. See on this list. I'm looking at, I don't see George and I would bow Georgia. I think George has been one of the best, very nice. Excuse me, the very fact that fans or media are questioning Tatum playing today to get on first teamer. All NBA is so indicative of the selfishness on this team, I don't blame them, I want Thirty million too, but like, when you go to the All-Star Game and like that's meaningless and you're going to go to the Olympics and I hate to even say that cuz you're playing for a country. Like, come on dude. All you did all year was sale tires. You are like, come on, really? Isn't on here is just on the walls of my life probably gets. Say when you say sure, I said, it's amazing. How energized Thirty million can make you? I I well, I would be very fired up. If there was Thirty million on the table, that required me to do what I've am but she wouldn't have been fired up all season. Like if you were going to be all NBA would have already been in the bag by now. On a plane seemed the last game of the second last game of the season against a kshitij. Wolves team right before the playoffs, would you? I mean, yeah, I would approach the season where Jaylen Brown did, I mean, Jalen Rose his bag and he went out and justify why he got his bag? That's how I would do. He hit that games from it, you get that games allotments, they asked Danny on the radio. Yes, they couldn't. You just given it to him and Angels, like no way, you can maybe take it back. I renege on that contract and get sued. Like, man, this next verse next question. One for more owner power off. Now, he's pushing for, no, contracts, and pushing for his even breaking the contract power. Not more not owners. Having more not players have now your question to break the contract. Netcong. Come on, dude. It's like, putting like it's like putting like I don't know like who's opposing player on a suck-ass seen that would have been all NBA. I mean this seems that really disappointing. I'll tell you. They're so there you go right? And I mean Nikola vucevic as well Georgia Rich. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the South be wearing great this year, they really weren't even good but they've going to be in the playoffs now, which gets you something. In terms that all NBA race I just you're right, you're right or bronze. Going to be on there and Dave is going to be on there just because the status. And this is the tricky thing about all NBA to is you have these media members who I want to say there, behold in the LeBron, but you have a mouse there, behold still apply down, there are members, who are beholding to ignore, which is a big man seen. It's a huge problem. We had more what we have seen all season long and that doesn't promise me significant damage to the point where you're going to. It's crazy because they will use the argument to not vote for lamelo ball because he hasn't played enough games and it'll be completely oblivious to them that the same rules should apply to LeBron James wage. All India too and being in that area. So he's pretty much only eliminated because of his games played. So right, what you gotta be consistent across the board doctor on anybody under the bus and I won't do it by name. I'll just say the entire Cleveland media as a whole charade. You were there his last game they gave him a standing fucking Ovation. I mean, they really happen. I've heard yesterday that I spoke to me are, can we, must have tried to get you tried? Must have tried to get everybody in the media. He called me Christian Arcane, cuz I tweeted it, and I had to give the whole story. Again, he must have tried to get her off to be his last choice. You know what I'm saying? He called me and get on the radio with them because it was so Wackadoo, like I do see if he he was retiring maybe but like he was leaving screw in the bulb. Yeah, I mean, you know Standing Ovation and the Press Box like it was it was it was really loud. Did we just see that song? Was. It was really. Yeah. It was just like did that really just happen. Did that really happen? Like I don't know where note, there's no doubt about that but the the adulation and admiration gets a bit over the topic and when she goes to accolades, if there ever was a year for those who are anti LeBron to have some ground to stand on this this year, he was great when he was healthy, but that's the problem. He wasn't healthy enough and when he came back, he had to go back on the bench because he wasn't able to physically go through what he needed the oil in order to be great. Now that has put the clip page Lakers in the position where they're really have the hardest roles and the Celtics and Lakers Both we were, you know, there was a long shot that they could potentially meet in the finals, come up. And then I get a game, playoffs, the other LeBron moment. I, you know, taking the the, the decision out of it too. Thought you were there, trying, I'm sure you were there in 2010, right? That was your first year. No. Ya 10 a.m. yeah, the game game, six against Cleveland, like the Celtics had no business going on there. Run to the finals that you remember. They were barely 500. The end of the season. LeBron had elbow phone number. The crowd was chanting MSG, remember that? You are all thinking. He was going to the Knicks. You were to go to Miami the whole time. That was probably, I think that was LeBron's on the, the lowest moment, because he pretty much threw in the towel that game that series, I mean, by the time games, six or seven rolled around, that was six. I think they didn't have home court advantage. He, he just barely showed up, he was breaking free, phone number. Who's in the garden, got home. Yeah, I mean he clearly just this is not a season guys, and I'm not going to fight it. I'm not going to. I I spilled the Winds of Change is coming and I'm just going to roll with them. I'm not trying to push against that and you don't, you don't. I think that was premeditated. I mean, why else did he change his jersey number? Yeah. Well, with the best one shot, she can't wear number 23, the whole league, should retire it. Well, Miami did, then he puts on six, he wears do Russell and dr. Jays jersey number, but he can't wear Jordans right song. Come On, Come On Lebron. I like LeBron as he's gotten older. I think he's mellowed a lot. And I like, when he goes off the court. Yeah, I mean, he's great off the court. But off, I'll be honest with you. I feel like we've talked about LeBron way too much, really? Yeah, all over your face, but I've also never heard you say your dog. You think he gets over a little bit of like on the Celtics post game show here, Rob Williams on here. I've already talked about Luke Cornett, thoughts about Cornett. So find that while we're still on the topic of this game here comes out as far as again. Rico you know look at that today. I'm actually going crazy for Bobby. He has, you know, he was a cornet, had a good game for more blocks 11 blocks and the last six games. Every time he's out there, he plays well off this. It's pretty much just I've been saying all season. Sure. I'd I'm not saying he's an option in the frontcourt. I'm not saying he's an impact player here. But if you're looking at your third string, Center spot for next year and as to come down to Grant Williams, six, six on a good day, undersized, not the best shot in the world has an impact of the team. A really improved all that much this year at all or Luke Combs. Over 7 feet. Great Lengths. Shot-blocker shot comes and goes probably about the same as Grant and a great decision-maker. In the high post with the ball. If you have to choose between those two coming in the next year. I said this yesterday I might feed that one, two million on Grand and go with corenet for about the same price. Well, that and that to me is, is part of the, the conversation is the price tag. Are you getting enough? Bang for your buck from, you know, Grant and cornet. And the one thing he does and and we've seen this, he really does help space the floor because when you get the floor, you have to account for the fact that he can knock down threes and that does. If you've got guys who can attack the rim and and and look to get in the paint, cornet can be that that kind of unspoken this guy, helping you do that. But to me guys like little Cornett, you gotta, you gotta parcel them out a little bit here, a little bit there. Like when we talk off, Grant Williams. We don't let Grant play more than like 10-15 minutes. Lucas kind of in that same boat. If I, if he's giving me like 5-10 minutes, that's pretty much as good as it's going to get from him. If I'm trying to get more than that out of him. We're we're doomed. We're going to suck. Things are not going to go. Well, we're going to go downhill real quick. Would you like them as your insurance option at Centre? Rob, goes down next year. Thompson. Misses, a few games. You like him step into that backup role in that situation. My third guy. Yeah, I do. I do. Cuz cuz to me, when you are that far down the bench, you better do one thing exceptionally. Well, there has to be something about you. That if you can play up to whatever your strength is, you can really help our team. And with him, it's not going down threes seven-footers, bought a 17-2. You can lift up a couple shop walking. There's a handful attributes say that you like yeah but it's just it's the shooting that is really his kind of breading but those other things are nice little add-on off. And things that can augment his game. But the shooting is would really frankly. That's why he's in the NBA. If you took that out of the pack, you can take some of those other things and downgrade them and each still being in Beijing because of his shot, make you take away the shot, the ability to make shots. He's not even, he's not even at the end of your been, she's, you know, in some country that I can pronounce that has about seven or eight syllables to. It making probably a fraction of what he's making now. So going to keep, we're going to keep Luke in the US in the NBA and people are going to be your roommate. Now, you're more, I heard you're moving to Jersey City with corenet. That is what Bobby was just bring the whole quartet family and all of them. Yes, I agree. Bring bring his sister, his mom, right? His mom has been a good Christmas season journalist. She is a news media person. I think the real news, not us exactly that. Real stuff I have to say birth. Bobbing you're right about Cornett. It's just that like, I don't care apology, camphor cornet. I mean, the fact of the matter is that, I never heard of him, I couldn't even spell his name to look up, highlights on on YouTube. What else can I apologize for picking on Bobby all season. I apologize for that. But mainly Cornett, you were right there Bobbie, I'll give it to you. There's your apology, I'm sorry go. You've only been on a handful of shows all year and you've done that, I've done it all and shambro I'm glad you all season in the chatroom Bobby. I'm just saying your willingness to use the apology cam so impressive, cuz John's not going to do. It has never apologized in his life for anything else. Do you really think John went this whole season? And we know it's no but I just want to answer. The question is John gone the entire season not saying anything wrong. In John's mind or in real life, in real life, in reality in real life. Know he said he'd John's biggest wrong is when he agrees with you, but then in the same sentence as it differently and makes it, his dad is a Johnson is 101. He does this to me on the rag. Like I'll be like wait a minute. No, I said that, you know, you didn't. I didn't know what those boys. He's brilliant repurpose points. Yeah, I'm going to take your point repack to put in a different box. It's something is John's. This is now. Wow, he'll never give you an apology cam though because you know, the next game, get the way that you want to take it back sometimes. Like cornet May well the careful one, the camber one with him is really, oh, yes, to do it. Yeah, he always a big time cuz him and Jimmy were together. They were saying log, Where they like that. Both teams play hard hand-in-hand. Your name is League version of yourself and the best president sell both his play. Pac-Man both teams play hard. Oh God bless ya. The chemical plant pots coming. Let's get onto the game. That's going to happen tomorrow. So the pace is off today, if you're watching scores around the NBA, the Hornets lost to the next that sets up a tie between the all three teams actually right now. But Indiana doesn't have the tiebreaker. So they're eliminated for eight thousand Wizards and Hornets play tomorrow and a game that's going to decide who's coming to Boston. So, I last Sherrod. Who do you want to see for excitement purposes? And who do you want to see when it comes to Boston's best chance of moving on to that first round these two teams for excitement it's definitely Charlotte. Lamelo is a dynamic player, seeing tear Jose in a postseason off. I wanted position. I'm curious to see what that looks like in Charlotte. Even though they got a couple, they got a few guys you know, bang them. I just think that they're they're one of those teams is not going to go away. The Celtics were going to have to beat them. To Charlotte is not going to necessarily beat themselves at this point in the season. So that's the one from an excitement standpoint, I want to see but as far as winning so it's got to be the Wizards. I know they got some W's now. It's some people want to call them the Wizards and I still feel that. They're there is. There's if you don't have Bradley Bill, you're not going to beat the Boston Celtics without Bradley Beal. I know Russell is having another otherworldly type of run of late with those double-doubles, hi double those. I think he says like seven straight games with 15 or more assists, something like that. Which I don't think it's been since John stock and I think was the last one that did that song. Talking about the short short short era the last time somebody was bawling like that but I just I can't I've seen Washington play a couple of times and Russia is putting that to him on his back I juice Don't think that the Celtics which should be arrested Tatum, which should be arrested, Marcus Smart. Maybe you'll get a little bit out of time. Lord. And the way that 48 is playing. Now, I just think the cells found many weapons that Washington can't. Frankly, we weren't scared of Russell Westbrook. I'm not, I'm not afraid of Russell Westbrook know me personally. Cuz here's the thing about you, look at the his career trajectory. He's put a big numbers, pretty much every year. He's been in a league and yet in the biggest moments, he's not that guy, he's not that guy. That puts the team with his back in, carriage in the victory. What he's doing in a regular season of latest is great and he definitely deserves credit and props for that. But in the postseason, no, I'm not. I'm keeping my chips in my pocket. If you ask me to put them on brush day of 1016 or 21, they have to be the best team in the NBA. This is going to be, actually more on excuse me, but I think Russell Westbrook is, is, is one of the best dog. In an NBA history, but he does somehow doesn't make his teammates better. Like, I mean, he's just see, I disagree drop them off. I mean, you make them better on the court facilitating, cuz he's everything triple-doubles. But something in the back of my house is like, never it always seems disconnected with him. Well, we're worries me about him is French time cuz he wants to take that shot and we know he is not even a good shooter at this point in his career. I mean teams want him to take that big three that they pull up jumper down the stretch. And if he's on the same team as Duran and always on the same team as Bradley Beal, sometimes it's in his hand. Side of that other guy shot, who's the real deal? Closer, score, or shooter in that situation. I'm looking forward to the Wizards here too. And I think Westbrook would probably go out and just rip this game out of Charlotte's hands and get washing into that 8 seed game. So that's what I'm expecting. And we saw a great duel between Bradley Beal between Jayson Tatum at the Garden earlier this year. Obviously, you guys watch the matinees disaster between these two teams and then took Taco Fall feed them in the first game, so wash and change quite a bit even since that most recent game, but I do think when it comes to their awful defense and when it comes to what Tatum's wife able to do against a perimeter players, that's how you probably want to see here. You worry about Charlotte just because of how that last game between them. And the fact that will know a ball is coming back, who Boston hasn't seen yet this year and off, obviously could carve up their defense quite a bit with this passing. Yeah, yeah. And and that's what makes me nervous because again, he, he has the ability to impact the game without making a single shot. Spray is getting other guys. The ball and you're talking about playing a Celtics team. That defensively has been bad this year. I mean, right before coming into this, this this game today, own know, right? 18th and defensive rating? That's the lowest they if the season ended at that point, that would be the lowest offensive rating. They've had under Brad Stevens, so this is for Celtics for Steve home. Which seems this has been unprecedented and how crappy they have been at that end of the floor. And when you're playing a team, who arguably one of their best players, his his strength is getting the ball to be guys who can make shots and your defense is bad. That's a bad cocktail. That's a bad cocktail. If you're this is interesting, I said all last week and Nick agree with me he wasn't on the show but I guarantee that the Celtics are going to get into the playoffs and get this tournament. Dial a great, go ahead. Okay? The odds are saying for if, if you think that Boston is not going to make the playoffs, you can get plus 400 odds on life which I don't mind. Which electricity. Which would tend to say that the oddsmakers think that Boston is a locked again in the playoffs. Now, the Lakers are much stronger, walk. I think this - 8,000 to get in or something ridiculous like that. But like the Celtics win if they like out, of course, you probably probably bet two hundred bucks and get a quarterback. I actually have to pull that up. I don't think it was that dramatic but it was dramatic. So the oddsmakers, think the Celtics and Lakers are getting in, they get two shots and, you know, they aren't playing the best competition in the world here. They they should get it. I mean there's no doubt if you're if someone puts a gun to your head and say you gotta pick what's going to happen then yeah you should take them to get in what you're doing that job based in large part on frankly their history. The fact that you the idea of LeBron coming back even if he's not a hundred percent shouldn't be enough for them to get into the playoffs. The fact that you're going to have a most likely arrested Jack Tatum, you're going to get Marcus Smart back. We should be a little bit you know arrested Rob Williams you. Hopefully a couple more days will allow that that turf toe to feel a little bit better so you can get a little bit, something out of him and 5:48, who we talked about before Kimberly Walker, is there are so many positives that you've since the Celtics can benefit. But there's that part of your brain. That's like, but damn, oh yeah, we got it all these Trends before and then they go out there and they get their asses kicked by a team that you know, I know and they know they're better than yesterday. I'm from Manhattan. So here, I think this, this guarded optimism that they can get put it together again. I was going to ask you guys like, okay, so if the Celtics went they get in the playoff, Are all bets off. Are we back at zero zero? Do we start from scratch with his bronze out. That's yeah, yeah but you weren't that way when Hayward was out but you put Hayward off the missing pieces season as well. Now hayward's out and right. So Andrew real pleased with Hayward, please guy and he stopped and you're playing the Nets or the Seventy Sixers, which is a daunting task. The Sixers you'd rather cuz we've at the Celtics have had their number over the years, there's some headspace issues with the Sixers that they have with the Celtics there's a little off. The green team has looting was real estate between the ears up there. Two years old was telling love it on paper, that should not be a series, it should go maybe five games in Philly, should win it off. But if they matched up with any of us, seriously, be surprised if that thing when six or seven games or boss amount of winning it, I would just cuz the Celtics don't have the standards right now, Thompson's hair in. Rob's got the job. Tell you don't even have a body that you can put in front of him, beat at this point. I can't I can't fully that changes. Yeah, sure, I'd all right. I don't think so. Either square one. When it comes to the classes, I think if beautiful nails and you come out of Steel game, one against really, oh I think all of a sudden that for sale signs, it's no longer for sale. What they ownership is already as returned, the owners are back in the building. See, I've watched them all year and their defense impresses me greatly. It's great, it's unbelievable. They surged offensive coach the stickers. I'm Gilliam. He's at the freezer first is dilip all-new been tree. Bring his normal bench. I think I've got most of his normal guys who stayed in l, e, but rather go after whatever cuz. Sounded defensive coach, really, right? We've seen when Thibodeau left, we saw drop off in the defense. Yeah. And right now under Brad, Stevens wage might be Shrewsbury who was Defensive dies sleeve, and we've seen a drop off as well. So that, if I'm the Celtics that's, I mean, again, ask for the also. You have a m, a d, a girl U have Sam Cassell. You have Dan Burke so he brought in my name's when it came to that assistant staff there in Philly, Popeye Jones is on his bench, Popeye Jones, took a hell of a hockey player. Yeah. Oh yeah. Wow, yeah. So who our coaches? Who because dark dark would get killed by Brad. I don't even think it's a kosher thing. I just I just suck. Philly has great depth, they have shooting and they're defending in the world last year. I mean really, there's so much 7:25 if you remember about your, right? So that was a dead end. That's a guy I think has guarded hate him better than anyone in the NBA so far through their writers. You're right. So I think the Celtics you just get suffocated by that defense and it'd be a quick sweep off. So then on a good position to still an outside chance that they could see the box, but the Nets are playing the Cavs tomorrow. So that's probably out the window. So you're going to see the Nets of books here and or the Nets and Sixers there. And I think it's going to be the Nets. The only positive about seeing the Nets is that you can go small and just take the centers off, the court altogether, but the Sooners are very good. Arie will have to play know, granted. It will not be a packed house but it will be a 25% or 30%. Boston Garden. Kyrie has to show up for the whole entire will show up and Kyrie will really so season. Yeah, particularly wanted to defensive end of the floor which has been mind-blowing watching how he defends. Now it's it works package. Did that for moments in Boston, which is what we're doing, a pretty much all season premier GMC, I'm really, really good. Defense me and I thought I'd never say that about Irish it at. Yeah, but but, but he has been consistently. Always had the ability to be good, I just because I always. Yeah. So here, those numbers here, those numbers. I was reading off Lakers to not make the playoffs - 2000 if you want. Us are no plus 1000 if they make the playoffs - 2000 Celtics - 5:50 no playoffs plus 400 off. Warriors is 160. 1:30 Grizzlies. 200 250, so they think Grizzlies probably not getting through that playing tournament. Then the Spurs are a long shot to get into that tournament at 4:50 a.m. again Vegas. Still loves the Celtics again in the playoffs at the very least and so do I when it comes to playing these teams on Tuesday of the mountain 5, no matter who they play. Dead sleep, mhm. Yeah they've had no heart. They're gutless all season. I saw, they just they're just playing Amazing teams. I mean you look at the 76ers and the Nets. Those are teams that could win a championship this year and in fact I like the Nets all year long. I think now that you look at the seating, the Sixers probably have the best shot to get out of the East. They're going to pay you guys that the Sixers win. They're going to get the wizard South. The Hornets round one. They're going to get the Hawks or next round you. Yeah. And they don't even have to think about the bucks or Nets until the East finals. And that is a huge Advantage dead. Yeah, it's it's it's it's a huge advantage and it's it's a reminder of why the regular season matters despite what some players might say. It doesn't it does. I mean that that's why that's why Philadelphia is in position. Whereas you pointed out Bobby they have the most clear Runway to get to the to the NBA finals of any team in the Eastern Edge. And that's the privilege of getting that top seed. That's the privilege that comes with being the best team throughout the regular season. And you go back and you look into a lot of those games at the Sixers play. They play with a great sense of urgency on a lot of nights. And so it's not so much that doesn't mean you always win those games. But if you're not playing hard, then you're hardly playing. And if you're hardly playing, you're setting yourself up to ask with which we've seen and do a lot of. I mean, I, I never had a season, we're even in the really bad years. Maybe you'll 6, then like that but I've never had a dog. Where I've gone into games, like, like when Cleveland like you were like, this is a lot, they gotta win this game. I didn't feel that way at all this year, like, in the second half of season about anybody. No team. Like, people would ask, you know, they do it all the time. Do you guys? I'm sure who do you. Who do you think? Do you think of Celtics tonight? You knew anybody they played in the past they could compete because they they had effort wage passion, right? And they did the unlikely this year. I've been, like, I don't know, like, I really don't know, I don't think anyone knows wasn't know when they did or when they did bad things this year, you were surprised. But you weren't shocked. And when they lost the Thunder you weren't sure Barbie game to you guys yelled at me cuz I said this team has no grit. I'll keep saying it. I'm pull that tape and I'm not wanting to say I told you. So you guys minimized and made fun of me. So bad until Washburn come out with that article. Well, thank you very much about this year. They they couldn't even lay a finger on the net worth. That was the Nets team with no Martin. Yeah. And they just run off the court. Kyrie came back into the garden and let them up too. Cool for school. Like man, it was like, there was no big deal. Yeah, and time in and time out, they had an opportunity in the last game to just go against Kyrie. There was no Durant. There was no heart in and they still and Kyrie didn't even play. Well, in that game and they still got destroyed, which was so disappointing to me. I will see you match up. Well, with that team perimeter players guards, all that, I release it as a short on the channel here on the YouTube channel but God Gary was on suck, XB this past week and I'll tell you what, you know, I'm a Danny guy. Like he does no wrong. You guys know that and but he really does give a good one minute on. Why should you know be any shares? A lot of the blame and all this and I'm not going to give it away just Washburn was electric on that. He's not a couple, had a couple in Cecil engineer so he can write a book about the bubble bath. That guy, I'm excited for that because Jerry, a hell of a lot. Larry has questions. He's had a great year, just always does this is you say all the time, like this is a very positive beat. He's been the guy really showing them to see what we did last year too. And, you know, you look at that, you don't want people to be trolling, but it's our job to ask difficult questions were not cheerleading. Actually, there's actually a good pug Celtic speed came out. Yesterday, I wrote a loan article about the episode, the greatest Washburn says shake up the front office job. Ya know more tomorrow change, no more like that. And your information of Zaire and goes right? I mean, come on. I'm just obviously there must cease fire district office and not die. Like, sarin sarin. A lot. That's my greatest. I think it's so interesting because they have nailed the pics that have mattered Tatum that stuff off. But the middle ones, they have really missed on some recently. And they decided, they decided as a team, that we're going to build this roster on young players after Kyrie left. After I left, we're going to go see him and stuff to say about that to Gary was great, man, Indigo this, we're going to go cheaper, we're going to go younger. So normally if you miss a draft pick there at the bottom of the roster and you just say whatever, let them figure it out. These guys were what relied upon his backups. So every time someone got injured the last two years these guys were coming in Grant Williams Romeo length or at least type of guys selling those minutes and it has not gone well and that's where I am. You look at the decision makers here and say, if these are the guys who were going to lean on for your depth and they aren't ready for this league at all, that looks really bad on the decision-makers, hear it does it does. And you know, Gary I don't think he's necessarily talking about how you know Danny needs to just kind of throw, you know, a grenade into the front office and pull it all up. I think he's talking about, they need to add. They need to add voices to the mix and he's running. Know he called them out by name sharod. It was great. You gotta watch this shit. I was like Jerry, like, he also, he also advocated for Paul, Peirce to join the front office. Yeah, I do too. I advocate for that too because you know what, like they that tough first of all, we get great Instagram videos but that toughness and Paul had it, you know, and he's got he can relate to age players, they're going to listen to them a little bit, you know. That was this point I interrupted Sherrod? I wanted to hear what he had a good. Yeah, you because he did name names. You gotta listen to that. I couldn't believe it. It was, it was Good job. Speaking of Paul Peirce, I do want to give you guys this before, we head over to locker room and I guess I might as well. Plug locker-room Johnstown, real quick here downloaded downloaded on Apple is on Android on the neck. So yeah, everyone can join us. American jumped on both Android and Apple before 6, which is glitchy. ER I think the Andrew little bit glitch here. Yeah, the issue I had with Android, I couldn't join the chat on Android like I couldn't like the people are saying stuff. I couldn't like respond or say anything in the comments section on Android. You know what that's been happening on on iOS to yeah. Yeah. Matter of fact, the last time I hosted for you guys the entire screen went white and the channel just closed and we had like a hundred eighty people and they're like, kind of a bitch, you know, but it just shut down. You were on that one. It was me. You and Jimmy, I think, are you and just you, you mean? Just, wait. Maybe where is your sway tonight? Am enjoying this Saturday 70°. I, I went and got some stuff done early this afternoon. So I went on a long walk. I exercised Bobby today. Wow, I went and I watch them play basketball in the park over here. Watch them. We got here about we got here about next form of basketball game and unlock her room. But also, if you want to pick who you want to see, wizards Hornets. Took ahead on this next topic, we're about to get a kg wrap. This up, Kevin Garnett going into the Hall of Fame today said in his press conference. He wishes he came the boss. Sooner. And he said, stuff like this before, but I always wondered is Garnett going to make his Timberwolves experience, more Central to his Hall of Fame entry, or is it going to? He's going to go in as a Celtic, and it's pretty clear, especially with, especially, with some of the ownership believes that he's had with Minnesota in recent years. He's going to be the same though, he's going to be remembered as a split like he loves what if I wanted to Thursday, but again I still think slap to the face almost a little bit to have a rod owning that team. Now over Kevin Garnett which magic say to him. Magic had a I just saw the headline. I'm not going to one of those guys who's like given the news based on headlines, but I guess magic Edward for a rod. I didn't want to look it up. It's just Democrats might I didn't know the point that Bob making do it 4 kg. It's just like seriously you have to try to own this damn team forever and a day and now you want to sell it. Why is that? That they they're just don't and then they want, they haven't retired his number yet. I mean, like why is there since beef there? I don't, I don't get it because, I mean he's the most iconic player. Your organization has ever had. He is Far and Away the best thing that could have ever happened to your organization and you would think that they would treat him with a little bit more respect and a little bit more admiration and adulation then they do. And if I'm Kevin Garnett and and absolutely flipping in the middle finger as I go into the Hall of Fame. If they heard that he wanted to be run that team shortly after his career ended. He obviously played his last season's there and then he had to happen. Besides what we know basically, well, something just stinks there. I know we open this changed. I know we've opened the show, talk about it, but just how towns early career is gone. The fact that they've been one of the worst teams in the league with that kind of talent adding Russell's within the last year, they still just continue to flounder at the bottom and they're going to get another Top Dog. This year. So you going to have towns. You have Russell, you're not Edwards and then another, you know, unless that pick ends up going to Golden State, they fall out of that top for they're going to have another top down and coming in here. So the fact that Garnett was in position out there to be a mentor, some of these young guys towns especially and now they're just cast them away. It's terrible work and it doesn't give the face as much as I would think. It would make sense, know it really it really doesn't. I am curious to see what efforts if any are the Celtics trying to make to get kg in the mix here. I will make sure they are. I don't know what specifically they want to do, but I would basically say Kevin tell me what the hell you want to do with us. And we want to do that. And we'll give you a quality because exactly how much we need a break off for you. Ownership wise to make you feel good. How much influence do it right? Do you see them doing this? That you need to have inside the locker room on the bench in the front office? Do you want because wage He's that good good. He's that big a Difference Maker. You know what? You're right. He enters the building. He can now you cannot even be in the same part of the Arenas him. But you know he's there like a bird number would come back once every ten years, you know, he was there kg. Would they do it? Probably I I think they would but I don't know. I mean like you think which is is only owns a fraction of that of that ten really? When you look at it you the majority owner but there's a million owners I would say, right? There's a bunch of owners as an ownership group so they would have to come to a consensus for, why not your, your stock is going down, go up immediately. If you bring Kevin Garnett, he's an asset, he's a line item on ESPN, social media marketing expenses, they just he's that powerful with with his wife, what he said, you're right and if you're a free agent and let's say the Celtics aren't offer you top dollar compared to some other teams but you know that Kevin Garnett is part of that organization. Well that's that's key off. Then he doesn't have to be in Boston. All year long. Like he was an assistant coach or something. I'm going to be a consultant. That's the best job cuz that that means you can be you can be as Hands-On long as you want to be, but everyone will know that you have a role that you have in a place with the organization so now you want. So let's say that. Yeah, I will say, excuse me, one sec, I will say this and I don't feel bad saying it with you guys. I don't Jimmy in John where I might get killed, but The Lakers the Lakers have done a good job of keeping their alumni involved in in in the the team, right? And you see it. There's a lot of camaraderie there and I think that's a product of the fact that the Lakers Legends are like, bird and Max and mikhail's age, right? But the Celtics are all dying because their fifties and sixties nineteen-fifties nineteen-sixties. I think nothing would be better for this franchise and to bring back guys like Pierce perk kg. I'm not saying bring them back and like you'll make it all of them. Ray Allen would be a problem. Have you refrain so here problem? Yeah. Have you do follow him on Instagram? Tried, I use this. Okay, so you know, so anyway, as stories are like dead, but anyway, back to what I was saying, I wouldn't want them to be on posters in a showcase, but I think that mentality is what if Brad could get someone in some people in there with that meant? Yep. It's fixed cuz it's an intangible problem, right? We know there's a talent problem but still they should have been way better than they were this year. Given the talent they do have on the the starting side of the roster month. So you know, mentality is intangible, you can't teach it, it's got to be a culture and grow until there's no such thing. It's culture. Well, this is what I gauge and even just listening to Tatum on that podcast yesterday. And let's say in a brown all year, you open the show talking about selfishness. I don't sense it from them, I really don't. Especially, when I hear Tatum talk, I hear a desire to learn to grow up here, really cuz I hear I, I think Brown is more of a, we we hear Tatum just wage is always nice to hear people talk like that about me, right? There's not a much of the office in the we, you know, and It doesn't mean I'm right. It's just my observation box looking at your family. No, no. Like I hear that but I hear it coming from a place of. I gotta get better to figure this out. I gotta work on my passing, I gotta do this, I gotta do that way. It's a, it's a mentality that he can figure this out which is honestly how he's played this year. Like I'm just going to do a ton of stuff to try to fix this and it hasn't worked. And that's what he's going to have to learn is that you got to empower the others around you, and you got to make sure that many people, right? And that's where he has fallen short this year, to be honest with you, the inability to empower strengthen up, liquid makeup, guys around him better, he doesn't do that enough and that to me is, is what's going to take him to that next level? Not only as a player but has a leader name is Jaclyn Talbot with this. Dude is unquestioned there's absolutely no. When you start looking at just the mile markers then he's hitting as a Celtic. I mean, you know, he's like the first to do this then the other damage to every month. They're month of the Season. He's the first Celtic to do some awesome amazing scoring feet or or shooting seat or something like that. He's been that incredible as an individual player. But when he makes that leap to making guys better, that's when he becomes a superstar and he's not there yet and I think he will get there, but I don't have a feel for whether that's going to be quick or not, and would not talk about Jalen. Jalen is a grinder. I mean, she just, he's one of the unusually high draft picks, who is frankly, his, his DNA is more about the grinding a glory. Yeah, and that's again. I think that an amazing quality for someone. So young in the game, who is very accomplished when you talk about being in office, are you talk about? You know, Conference Finals, three out of four years. That is the kind of stuff that if you are talking about building York or you want that as a big chunk of your core now dead. Tuesday, be the face of the franchise, probably not. Because his grind is hard and the grind of those around him, not even close, but they need to take a little bit of jail and and inject that into their system choice because he is what you want for the role players for the bench, guys. For the guys who the for the Luke coordinates with the 15th man. One day starting the next, you want to be like Jalen and that is take advantage of opportunities and play hard play with a grind. Jalen does not play with an edge. He plays with a grind and there is a difference. I think about our conversation with Max about just, you know, I'm not getting any more space like that, that's not what he does. But I do think at some point, you need to get someone in the building. Who does you need a Kendrick Perkins type, you need a Ben Wallace types of, Thursday. That right? You need someone that has a physical presence about them. That if things start getting a little squirrelly in a game, you got that one guy that is going to regulate and it shouldn't be mark. Smart Marcus. Does he does I think as good a job as you can expect from a point card slash shooting guard position right now. But you, you need someone who are that tough job is part of their strong DNA. Like when you talk about Kendrick Perkins, you don't think about scoring you don't think about rebound. You think about toughness and defense, that's what he does. And he did that at a girl, I level when he was in the league, you need to have guys with that type of ill about them on your roster and they don't have that now. Yeah. I mean it's the same story over and over and over, right? We keep saying, same exact thing that is exactly what it is. I mean, they need a Draymond Green. They don't need him, but they need a tough guy. They need a bastard. They need to, they need a, a Marcus Smart bulb. Maybe Marcus has run his course a little, I don't know. But they they do. They need that toughness and I don't know if Tatum are brown ever have it. I think Brown more has it in his DNA than Tatum. I just am not like Tatum is a finesse player. I love Tatum's game. I don't love his mentality that you know, but I'm, I am, I am at a dumb guy like I would trade Brown over over, paid him, probably for Bo. If that was nice on a good men but really, I gave it was a total and then your thing about Goodman is Bobby to, you're not to your point, but against your point is early on. I don't know who the player was. I think it was an Atlanta Hawk cuz we were right around the Hawks. And that often honest NBA player told Goodman known in a league series those guys, because they don't make their teammates better. Remember, no, no, no, of course, I'd never seen anybody steal this from Max. It never seen anybody score, more hollow points than take them and Dole out more Hollow assists. Like at the end of the game, when I want to go look at the box score and I see at six seven assists I'm like where when when did that happen? You know because they just I don't know I don't know how else to say it they're just points, it just happened but don't make impact unless there's sixty in your coming back from 40 down. Yeah well I mean are you blanking on me? Well he has the defense to raise the team's level as well. And I do think one day he's going to have the passing that will raise this neat. Well I'm actually working on a video right now. Breaking down his playmaking from the season. It has to get better because they even powered they've put the ball in his hands to the degree that he's going to have to make teammates better than have to empower. There's an ultimately, as more people end up leaving this team in coming years and he gets an even greater share of responsibility. There's going to be more young players around him and growing young players in terms of A role as like portrayed in these Smith who he's going to have to connect with. And honestly it's amazing that well we pitcher can do it cuz he can dribble and he can get his own but maybe less than ten years. Nesmith need a guy to get him, the ball, took it needed a guy to get him a bone, good positions, the tricky balance your looking at with players like that. Is our those guys good enough to take advantage of Tatum or whoever's playmaking or do Tatum and those types need to get them more involved than better. Looks I think it's obviously both things, right? But that's where. That's where the the criticism of Danny coming to play cuz Tatum needs better Talent around him better, you know, Rob. Brown and can burn exactly who you want a ton off the ball, but in terms of attention to people should be getting easy shots, right? And and that's that's part of the problem. I mean, I'm sure that that fruit that top-tier Talent around guys like like Jalen Kimba, they're going to be all right. Whatever Tatum does there cuz they're they're Pros. They can figure it out. I'm talking about elevating the pleasure of those end of the bench guys who are going to have moments, where you're going to need them to deliver. They need to be confident that they can do that. I don't think it was a coincidence, that Jimmy Butler was pumping of Tyler hero, all season long, and it wasn't until the gays truly mattered in the playoffs, or Tyler hero was a different kind of player. He he played with the kind of confidence that you're not going. Do it on your own. You're going to get that by someone infusing, that in you who has that type of confidence in themselves and thus they have that in you Tatum I don't think does that he has tremendous Confidence Game. So and he should he's that. Damn good. I don't if I'm Grant Williams, if I'm, you know, carsen Edwards. He's not really making me feel that. He's that often enemy. He's confident me because we're on the same team and he has and he has to play that role. But is he really going out of his way? To give me opportunities to not? Just take shot me place, but actually encouraging me to take shots, encouraging me to make plays doing those type of things that you've gotta do. When you got young boys, young guys who don't play with, the kind of conflict. They should. I mean, at one point before nice just started going off. Jalen talked about how, you know, he's telling me, you know, just play hard and that was the first and only time I heard anyone off this team say that they talked to Nesmith about one, wait a minute and this was before you started playing just 30 minutes. This was before he it was like he had one game and then he was like damn P or limited phone number Maybe two or three games after that, but Jaylynn made a point of telling a young fellow to play hard and it may not seem like that big a deal. But when you look at how nice Smith has grown over the course of season, you start trying to when you start looking at the tea leaves and that's a big fat one, they need more than any more. I mean, I agree, a hundred percent. I think that's that's a and you know what? You haven't heard them, talk about their teammates and I'm encouraging fashion very much at all. And I really think and this will be my all head over to lock room that you guys finish, but I have two things. First one is, I think that and I know I've been saying this all year, but I think that that fans are going to make a huge difference next year. I think that no restrictions on the roads are going to make a huge impact next year. And I think. And when I say that, I mean, You have no practice and you can't leave your hotel room. How do you get to know your teammates? Like you hear these stories about players that would you know, have different type activities when they weren't playing wrong and you don't see that now and you can't blame them for that, they're not allowed to do it. So I think next year and that would be why and I know that you're going to fall over Valley but that would be why I would most definitely give everyone a mulligan this year. For the most part, you know, I think you have seen some some alterations for sure, and I think Brad would acknowledge that even a brad Stevens home as much as I've been frustrated with them in the past. I mean, he deserves a mulligan, so fucked up. I mean, like for us, it has been imagine them. Well, if you look back at twenty twenty, I was just thinking about this yesterday. Couldn't you have imagined everything falling apart after 2019, with what they lost and what they went through office. But then they bounced back in 2020. And they had a job at a succeeds. And they made these finals, they were healthier and that's the same cast. It was brown, it was Tatum it was Brad. Hayward foreign language. Thank you, Dad words and actions at home during the regular season, he did. He helped them get where they ultimately got everything else. If I inadvertently, he caused more drama than it. Not purposely. But I think there was well, yeah, just because of what he wage. Yeah. What do you do in the process of bringing him back into the force? Which came at the expense of guys, like Marcus Morris calling brown, or Jaylen Brown. And, you know, those guys practicing with him. And let's be honest, Gordon wasn't a hundred percent in, so they're probably kicking his ass, pretty regularly and practice. And so, if you're doing that, and then you're a really good point. He's pretty 25 minutes, and I'm off. 20. That's a really good point and so and again, it's no, it's not gorgeous fall. If the plan it makes it. The only way he was going to get back was you had to put him out there? Playing minutes and jumping came up slowly. But surely, but the the frankly, the collateral damage, that that causes is it makes guys, who is better position to play and help, you have to take a step back and have the sacrifice. And there's only some sacrifice that ball is in the NBA are willing to take and I get it. I mean, I, I put it like this. If I were to sell things, I would have probably done it the same way. I would have ratchet up. Gorgeous, rather slowly but surely wouldn't played Marcus Morris as many minutes as he probably deserves. He started him. Remember birth Again, Begin the year and then he got business with ground. That's where it started. That's where the melting started. Yeah, it was the same time, and it wasn't that they, they wage. Happy with Gordon. They like Gordon. They just didn't like the fact that we are being told not to. We're not starting or we're not playing Major minutes over guy, who shouldn't be if you bring him up a Conference Finals. Yeah I mean it would make so much more sense if you're trying to bring them on. Gradually to do that coming off the bench. That was a no-win scenario. Because do you do, you completely turn destroy hayward's confidence and knowledge of this confidence. So it was a no-win scenario. You have a team that has all these young players like truly, who would have thought they would have got to the Eastern game, seven of the 1/4 away from the finals without Kyrie and Hayward, and maybe, or detriment in the end. I don't, I was just, you know, just crazy about the lobby before you react, cuz I'm going to let you guys go. But what you just said, Bobby is the same roster and what they did. Ber 19th disaster. 220 coming back through covet through the bubble that was mental toughness and effort, I guess only Shrugged, but it was. And I remember going into that six-year Series going. They're not mentally tough. Remember me saying that over and over and over Bobby. They're not Tough Enough. Not in the brain, the Celtics are the Sixers are not and the Celtics home. So, the point is something happened between the but that, that Miami fight that Washburn covered, right? Then in the bubble, the one was smart, screaming and yelling. Oh, opening night, cuz I don't think they've been the same since that game. Hm, right. I'm you know, I'm going to get out of your guys, but I do this. This is my last appearance of the Season. Thanks to everybody. There's a lot of fun and I as a spectator have never been more entertained by a post game show more than a game. There were a multitude of games. I didn't watch guys, but I tuned in to the post game show, so Kick-Ass and the listeners to in the viewers and the Chatters. Thank you. I'll see you in La Crosse. Go talk to Nick, unlock or room and yeah, I'll pinch or something. I'll make it entertaining Thanksgiving and some people in over there. You know, today's kg poem. Sure, I'd I want to keep that conversation going. Obviously, we'll hit more on who they're going to play on Tuesday and that kind of stuff tomorrow. Kg I was listening to the radio shack in a grand. Yeah, I was listening the Max and what I found. So I, I wasn't obviously covering the team back then. I was, let's see. Ten years old when kg arrived in Boston. I didn't, I wasn't a credentialed involving. I did not. I was no Shams starting at at 12 or whatever he did. I found the craziest thing about that time, they've obviously done a documentary and this and that about that error people didn't weren't necessarily sure if they wanted Garnett, you had Tommy heinsohn. Now it's saying that if Al Jefferson was traded he was going to quit. You had Max Steel in a similar way and quite a few people in the city. It seems like weren't sure if they want to trade, Al Jefferson for Garnet, which seems crazy to me now, I remember Jefferson, especially once he got the Charlotte and it had probably the best season of his career in Charlotte. Probably the last best post play season that we've seen in the NBA off before it officially died. So, Jefferson was a great player and he ended up having a great career. But when you think about what kg brought the boss, then the fact that that was even a conversations crazy to think about. Now I I just whenever I heard anyone say that, you know, Maybe we should keep Mister Jefferson and not pursue. I just immediately it became White Noise in my ears because it just, I wasn't trying to hear that it made. Absolutely no sense in the world wage Kevin Garnett at that point in his career was a transformative player that I mean I have in my own head that there are certain NBA players that fall into foul call the five-tool talent category, guys who can score rebound defend pass and make their teammates better. Kevin Garnett was at the top tier in all those categories year. After year after year after year. And when you have a chance to add a player with that multifaceted of skill sets to your organization, may not even talking about the culture Dynamic that he brings to the table. We're talking about, just the sheer on the floor impact, it is a no-brainer every single day off. And and again I out and that's no shade on Al Jefferson who was a kind of very good solid NBA career but he wasn't changing the game. The way Kevin Garnett was he was an elevating. The play of not just those players around you but the community around you, you think about his impact off the court in Minneapolis, which was great. You think his impact in Boston? Boston, freaking Boston was just as great that to me, all you had all that up and say you have a player that if you don't pull the trigger on getting him, you're going to spend the rest of your life playing the what if game and I give Daddy age a lot of credit cuz they it wasn't as if they didn't give birth of much they gave him a bunch of players. Good players. I was I was surprised that Minneapolis didn't want Rondo or that they didn't push as hard to have Ron, dog. Included among those players. Cuz to me, he was the one guy that had a certain skill set that could potentially be transformational for your organization. He couldn't score as well as some of these other guys that were included in the deal, but he was a hell of a better passer, amazing Court vision. And the fact that Danny Ainge was able to keep him out of that deal to me, there's getting kgs the one a top-tier victory, right behind that was keeping Rondo. Out of the deal. Huge. Yeah. You kept a starting lineup intact Frac. When you think about Perkins, even as a prospect back then, having him down the middle with so important after you lose Jefferson and then you get a facilitator, bring it all together and Rhonda and those two guys were very young back then, but I'm I'm fitting in with those veterans, the way that they did ended up becoming all the more important once they got into the playoffs and everything else, what they were able to do with no. Playoff experience was very impressive. Especially I mean like you know Alan hadn't had a Deep Run either, Garnett it only been out of the first round. Once the fact that they were able to put it together the way they did first year with some tough opponents in front of them and land, they given them Detroit. It was a tough path to that finals and even the Lakers Lakers were favorites and that Championship coming into it. So it was, it was hard for that group from day one. I love what you say about, not giving up Rondo, not giving up Perkins or some of the other pieces that they had at that time as they possibly could. And it looks like they ultimately did get a steal, there was what they gave up and gave us back. Jefferson, got hurt that probably could have gone a little bit better for Minnesota if he was healthy. But it makes me think and now because there's this talk of brown for Beal, this is talk of what you can get for groundbreaking up that core a trade. Like this is why I say you figure out a different way to do it. Seven, first, I know people laugh when I say that but Rob I know they don't have great pieces right now. But ultimately, if you can even get a nice Prospect in this year's draft and continues to build Nesmith and put you in some of these other guys up, maybe that gets you to a package one day where you can ultimately add a third piece to Tatum and brown especially as kembo eventually walks out of here. In the next two years, I'm going to be tempting to try to do that now. And try to speed it up but I think you just kind of have to be patient and wait for this to manifest in a position where you can make that Garnett style move. Now the Garnett style move is Anthony Davis off cuz you okay with Davis brings to the game to the table and what he did in L A Year One. That's Kevin Garnett. There's not going to be another Kevin Garnett anytime soon or even Anthony Davis. Anytime soon that makes the Kyrie era and even bigger second. Guess because ultimately, you wanted Dead Davis here in Boston but a Beale. I know you've talked about towns. Those kind of guys, they could serve as a legitimate baked three cakes there with them. Well, here's here's my concern about Bill. And, and really this, it's a recent concern just because as Washington was making its run, they were, you were saying more and more interviews and conversations with Bill and and Westbrook about their chemistry and things like that. And I was listening to Bill talk about just a balancing act that him and Westbrook. Having how Westbrook is kind of like the fiery fire guy and I'm just kind of cool. Mellow mr. Ice and then it got me thinking the Celtics already have a really good player who's mr. Cool. Mister mellow, mr. Ice his name's Jason Tatum To have two guys who are kind of in that cool mode and not have a legitimate fire-breathing Hellraiser, the kg types of the world, the Jimmy Butler's of the guys back to our their intensity and their anger are all wrapped up into this amazing body of work, that helps you win games. That's what you're looking for. And that's why the more I think about Bill and Tatum the less. I like that as a combination. But so you if it comes at the expense of a Jaylen Brown, which I just I think Jalen has done enough to where they're not going to move him. His contract is really one of the better context when you talk about all star players on the on their second contract and and he's a guy that has shown the ability to get better. Every single month has been an NBA. The last like that aren't traded unless you're getting a top-five and he's twenty and he's twenty-four which is 62. You mentioned the personality type dog? To join them. I almost look at it as a position. Do you need a big man Larger than Life Force? Because that's ultimately Garnett his size. His impact on the defense for because of that size is what transformed the team overnight Davis? Same deal going to La just a 7-footer who can move and do a bunch of different things for you while. Also anchoring your defense month still seems critical to this day. Now obviously, it's a different type of big in today's game, but we talked about this a couple of shows ago, the best players in the NBA right now, even though it's become more of a perimeter oriented League, Nikola, jokic Joell embiid and then somewhere up there as well. Anthony Davis Davis was the guy who drove the championship last year. Fairway, I know LeBron's LeBron, but Davis, and many choices, the most valuable player on that team to me. Now, you look around the league and there aren't many left. I guess towns. Could possibly become something like that one day, but we've seen him in the league for so many years. At this point that you wonder wage Ceiling ultimately is there, but I almost wonder if you do, like, I'm not saying you need a shack. You need a big man, you need a centerpiece big on your team, but I wonder if you almost need someone with great guys, who can be an overwhelming force on the league because of that size, no matter what they're doing position, like this to Rance, almost that way to like he brings perimeter skills to the game. But at the end of the day, he's a seven footer and that brings his impact to that next level. So when you're talking about who you can add to the Celtics, yeah it's nice. If you could get Beyond have three, brilliant perimeter players but if you don't have that overwhelming size an impact player that seems to be with delivers a championship you all. It's, it's certainly. What is positioning you at a minimum? Yeah, to do that. When you look at Milwaukee and the success, they have a regular season wage has has a lot to do with it. They have a, you know, basically 610 hybrid guy that can jump out the gym can do everything, but knock down threes, and he started to do that this year, which is kind of scary for the rest of the league, but yep. I mean, having a versatile, big who can both be in inside and perimeter threat. That is ideally what you want, but I still think that if you don't have a guy that has those specific skills and is a tough guy, get someone can do a little bit of those things. And as someone whose DNA is about toughness and I've mentioned this name before 6 because I think with this team could use on the floor, he could provide. And that's PJ Tucker Milwaukee. I PJ's an older player. So you don't have necessarily those concerns about him. You know, took four numbers. He's one of the few guys. That is a, a gritty guy who you feel pretty. Confident is about winning. You feel pretty confident that he's looking to be in situations where he can help you win and not necessarily rack up big money and big stats in the process. They need those type of players I when I think about Tatum who is a very talented, but much more of a finesse guy than Force guy wage, You've gotta have something to balance that out and and again, I think you do, you do benefit from having a physical guy who can play both inside and out but at the end of the day you need toughness page and it can be in your small forward, it could be in your Center but you need to have guys we're tough. Making tough players and inhale it. Tough situations is part of their narrative and they just don't have guys at right now. So I was going to keep this conversation going to ride but if you turn on your TV right now, Kevin Garnett is about to make his Hall of Fame speed. So we're going to hop on La Cruz. We're going to listen to that live as a happens and we're going to talk with all you questions. You have takes you have this season starts to wind down. We have the Hornets and wizards tomorrow that's going to be the game. You keep an eye on you. I really want to watch Celtics Knicks and join us after that, here. I think it's a 1:00 tip tomorrow. Is it 3:00 tomorrow? Believe is 1. All right, so this one web another afternoon show here, but Garnett is about to enter the Hall of Fame which is crazy to think about his career wrapped up. A few years ago, I met this obviously, got the way from last year, Kobe going in today as well. Make green, and his bank is going like him. Who else? Who else is going in today? Is that it, we've got no choice to coach. Last name is Stevens from Bentley College. Who's going into the Hall of Fame in maths, right? Yeah, I think I think she's from Bentley. Yeah. She coached the Bentley team. Yeah. Yeah. There's a rolls of the Barbara Stevens. I believe is her name. Yeah. Barbara Stevens from Bentley. Yeah, yeah. Kevin is talking right now. So I I'm going to jump into locker room now. All right, we will see you over there. We will see you tomorrow, and then on Tuesday for the playing game, which will be decided tomorrow as well. She's doing everyone, I'll see you dead.

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216 - John Haigh "The Acid Bath Murderer"

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216 - John Haigh "The Acid Bath Murderer"

"I'd like to share an important safety announcement from the fine folks at nitsa. The national highway traffic safety administration. If you're ever stopped at a railroad crossing and the signals are flashing and you don't see the train or appears to be moving slow and you're thinking maybe you could get across the tracks before the train comes. Think about this. Even if the engineer sees you and applies emergency brakes right away. It can take a train over a mile to stop over a mile to stop by that time it's too late. And the resulting crash will be deadly. Stop trains can't you don't get a nickname like the acid bath murderer for being a nice guy between nine hundred forty four nine hundred and forty-nine john the acid bath murderer. Hey definite bad guy killed between six and nine people and several of them were good friends of his. And that fact didn't cost him to hesitate shooting them or beating them to death in order to put their money into his pockets gruesome way he disposed of his victim's bodies after he killed him shocked. Nineteen forties england led to his nickname after his murders. He would dump bodies into a tub of sulfuric acid that turned the remains into human sludge which he then proceeded to literally dumped down the drain or toss out in the yard. His acid bass took place in what. He called his workshops where he claimed the outside world to be working on various inventions. But he didn't invent anything not even a new way to dispose of bodies a french murderer before him actually inspired him to dabble in the acid another detail of his crimes that disturbed the londoners reading about his horrible horrible crimes in the tabloid was an alleged post. Kill vampiric ritual. He may have engaged in after his arrest. Hey claimed to have drunk the blood of his victims immediately after murdering them vampire sacramento richard chase probably giving him a high five and hell right now. Unlike some of the other killers we've covered growing up. Hey did not seem destined to become a murderer. It wasn't setting fires wasn't torture small animals. It was harbouring. Murderous fantasies seemed like a nice kid. Actually but then when he grew up he quickly grew disillusioned with working for a living. He wanted fancy clothes and expensive cars and he didn't want to wait for any of that. After getting in trouble for stealing at work he dove into a life of scam based crimes. A life to lead to tossing some folks into some acid in order to in his mind reduces chances of getting caught and going back to prison. Hey killed for money definitely and maybe also to get his hands on some of those blood cocktails in expensive hotels driving fancy cars. Eating gourmet meals was more important to him than letting those around him continue to keep breathing then in the end when he was apprehended. He blamed all of his crimes on his strict religious upbringing. That's why killed. Mom and dad didn't spare the rod spoil the child in. That was how he turned out like. Did he claimed that. His parents fire and brimstone lectures and frequent punishment. Kosin have crazy dreams about bleeding trees and other weird shit and these dreams made. He wants to drink the blood of his victims. Those dreams led to murder. It was the dreams fault that he killed now. It was no one's fault. But john george hayes the religious sect. He was brought up indefinitely. Sounds a little bit insane though. Sounds like he was definitely raised. An atmosphere of fear and paranoia and very little fun. We'll explore the sect the plymouth brethren in some depth today excited to hop across the pond for a bloody bangers and mash. 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Enough heartwarming good. feels motherfuckers. I just checked my watch now. Murderer o'clock true crime. Come hopping to steal acid tub and set up with the acid bath murderer. England has had more than its fair share of bizarre and disturbing murder cases. Over the years. We've covered a few of them here. Before jack the ripper dr death harold shipman and our killer kids suck was loaded with a lot of young murderous british killers Since over eighty percent of british kids. If you don't know under the age of eighteen do murder an average of one point four people based on stats. That i may have just made up in my head. England like any nation with the large population in a long recorded. History has of course a long history with murder. We're fairly murderous species. An england's murderers have gotten more press than most over the past century or to due to the case thriving tabloid newspaper industry and today's englishman got a lot of press after he was apprehended in london. Nineteen forty nine. Alana was fascinated with this dirtbag and he wasn't especially deranged fascinating british killer. John hey stereotypically. British in some ways charming well dressed handsome seemingly seemingly respectable Dude with with great well quaffed hair capable of speaking in a posh accent and presented impeccable madness. He looked like had he lived a little longer. Like he could have been considered for the role of james bond. Hey came across. The man of high tastes amana culture. Maybe guy you'd wanna party with royal albert hall or enjoy a pint with your local pub underneath that carefully constructed and contrived facade. He was a cold hearted murderer and psychopath. Who had no qualms about turning people into chemical stew. In addition to being labeled the acid bath murderer he would also be called vampire by the british tabloids perhaps rightfully so another vampire. Will he be as vampire. Because richard chase vampire sacramento will. You will soon find out what motivated. Hey to not only kill people but maybe also drink their blood and dissolve the remains in a vat of acid haywood claim to authorities at the upbringing. He received from strict religious. Parents really fucked him up after hearing about it. I think he might be right. I don't think it's fair to blame murder on his childhood. But i do think it fucked him up and i think had he been raised differently he probably would have never turned out the way he did. And maybe not became a or have become a killer plenty of people live do shitty childhoods and turn out just fine or at least don't become serial killers but as childhood certainly seemed to have at least pushed him towards making some terrible choices. Hey also blamed his parents in the way. They raised him for giving him a specific recurring nightmare. That he'd have for most of his life. He said i saw before me a forest of crucifixes which gradually turned into trees. At first there appeared to be do or dripping from the branches. But as i approached i realized it was blood. A man went to each tree. Catching the blood. When the cup was full he approached me drink. He said but was unable to move weird. Is this dream. Haywood later confessed to police. That made him believe he needed blood. In order to live others blood into that blood. He said he needed to kill. I don't know did a dream him to murder. I've hard time buying that premise. Maybe did i guess or maybe he just felt like blaming a dream a dream he may not have even had. This guy was a huge liar. Instead of taking responsibility for his heinous actions more the dream may have had some effect if he had it on his actions. The fact that he was most definitely a sociopath for sure had an effect on his actions he was able to do what he did in large part because like so many other killers we've covered like almost all of them. He just seemed to have zero empathy to tell hayes tale where we're gonna. I lay down a little bit of context regarding the atmosphere of london in general in the nineteen forties backdrop for his killings. The vibe of london and early and mid forties was for several years one of confusion. Chaos due to germany's massive. London world war two bombing campaign and the destruction left behind. Then for exploring the scope of the damage caused by germany's bombing raids will dig into hayes. Odd religious background before jumping into today's horrific crime loaded time timely. So let us begin. Soon after world war two broke out. The british government knew germany would be targeting london in there bombing rates. They knew the nazi's would want to blast their capital out of action. How badly that would hinder the allied war effort. The nazis knew how you know Months of bombing could devastate in national morale and on september seventh nineteen forty. The bombings began and it was every bit as terrible as the british government expected. Maybe more so three hundred. German bombers blanketed this guy's above london in the first of fifty seven consecutive nights of bombing. Holy fifty seven consecutive nights. Fire in the fucking sky this bombing blitzkrieg or lightning. War would continue all the way until may of nineteen forty one and then later. V one flying bombs v. two rocket attacks in one thousand nine hundred four would cause further damage over four years of intermittent bombing. It is Estimated that more than twelve thousand metric tons of bombs were dropped on london. Not thirty thousand civilians killed by enemy action. The worst hip plays tended to be the poorer districts like the east end but all londoners were affected by german air raids to varying degrees. No one felt safe for several years. No one felt safe lenders. Never knew when the bombs be coming back if they might become for them the next time a modern bomb census recently attempted to pinpoint the location of each and every bomb dropped on london during the blitz and the visualization of the data makes it clear how thoroughly the loop vodka The nazi air force saturated the city with crippling explosions. The air raid damage was widespread in a man hospitals clubs churches museums residential and shopping streets. Hotels public houses theater schools monuments newspaper offices embassies. Nothing was safe or sacred. Even the london zoo was bombed the zoo. Those assholes bombed a fucking zoo incredibly. No animals died in the explosions but zebra did apparently escaped for a while and make it all the way to camden town. The nazi blitzkrieg changed the landscape of the city. Many famous famous landmarks were hit like buckingham palace. The houses of parliament tower of london. The imperial war museum some areas so badly damaged. They had to be almost entirely rebuilt after the war so insane. The covid pandemic has been weird for sure to live through but it has nothing on this. Imagine if your city or town was being bombed for six straight months then bombed again later imagine living under the that level of stress. They have today constant conversations of so. Did you hear that lenny's pub gotbaum last night. That bomb drought this morning. Yeah the southern half of our blocks totally gone day after day week after week month after month. Never knowing if the next set of bombs will be coming for you and your family or maybe your neighbors crazy. Lot of western front allied military stage. He went on in london as well beginning in. Nineteen forty. Two american servicemen flooded the city We'll never properly invaded by the nazis. London was very much a part of the second world war. It was a busy transport hub a popular destination for troops on leave when the war ended at least for europe. In the spring of nineteen forty-five london was the focus of celebrations four celebrations thousands of people waiting to see the royal family on the balcony of ham palace for prime minister winston churchill to appear at whitehall on your victory in europe day may eighth nineteen forty five. Saint paul's cathedral and the national gallery were floodlit. Their celebratory bonfires and the city's parks. The nazis had been defeated the war in london over and now the city was in desperate need of large scale rebuilding as always after a period of great destruction architects and planners see the opportunity to remodel city. Make it better more modern players such as patrick. Abercrombie came up with proposals to reconstruct the capital with the balance between housing industrial development and open spaces abercrombie's county of london plan included a refining of the greenbelt a strip of land encircling. London has made a parks farmland and recreation grounds and subject to strict regulations concerning building development. Further out abercrombie proposed to construct a satellite towns around the outer country ring. In fact many londoners moved out to the eight new towns such as stevenage harlow after the war towns. That are doing very well right now. In a patrick is related to the david evercrack who founded abercrombie and fitch and new york city in eighteen. Ninety two a clothing company headquartered in albany ohio other relations distant. Not sure if anyone was anyone animals cares about that. I had to third for myself. I was like the fucking abercrombie and fitch guy no second. I heard that name. I thought is he connected to the clothing store. It was so popular when i graduated college. The store whose employees all seem to be a models. No he's not While patrick was rebuilding london. John hey was melting people in fucking acid tubs. Things are crazy in london in the forties. Before we get into haste timeline Let's take a few minutes now to learn about the religious sect. He was raised his parents belonged to seemingly joyless group of of faith minded people notice the plymouth brethren their purest anticlerical. Still are still very much around. I'm guessing there are some members handing out pamphlets on a london street corners at this very moment the plymouth. brethren when hey was. A young lad considered all Almost all forms of casual entertainment music carnivals magazines newspapers etc to be sinful and of the devil. Only stories from the bible considered worth reading on a book to read. There's your book the only book you can use all of the books for kindling. Throw those devil words in the fire. John george strict antiphon guilt based childhood. So weird right that that would lead to a serial killer who would have guessed it. It's almost like the needless and massive repression of joy is a bad thing almost like forbidding people to be human to participate in the culture that surrounds it might be psychologically damaging or something the origins of the brethren trace back to dublin ireland where several groups of christians met informally to celebrate the lord's supper together in eighteen twenty seven and eighteen twenty eight early members. Were like outside of worshiping. The lord. Dr you hate everything as i do. Yes you say. To the every activity that doesn't directly involve active godly worship me to do also want women to bare foot and pregnant and to stay inside the house and nothing for themselves and only just barely literate enough to read. The good book may to gus. Dang oh my heck. I would hug you if i didn't think physical affection was also the devil that starts new church and bring more people into a small minded paranoid misogynistic modern world fearing fold believers in this new movement. Felt that the established church england had abandoned or distorted many the ancient traditions. If christian dumb they want to get back to basics less fun more rules central figures to the founding of this movement were anthony norris groves a dentist studying theology at trinity college in dublin. Edward cronin a man studying medicine john nelson darby a curate or member of the clergy in nearby county wicklow ireland and john gifford belet lawyer brought them all together following their first official meeting in plymouth england in december of eighteen thirty one The movement spread throughout the united kingdom. And soon the assembly and just plymouth alone had more than a thousand people in fellowship and all these new believers became known as the brethren from plymouth and then the plymouth brethren. This group has fractured quite a bit. Over the years as protestant christian groups tend to do terminology gets a little confusing trying to differentiate between all the different brethren now there's the exclusive brethren and the open brethren the closed brethren and more and none of the british brethren are to be confused with the. Us colt found. In the early seventies. By jim roberts also called the brethren so many flipping brethren gusting The biggest branch still seems to be the plymouth. brethren as group seems to Continue to emphasize as they've been doing since eighteen thirty one. Solis era a term for the belief that the bible is the supreme authority for church doctrine and practice over and above any other source of authority. According to the bible is above the quote mir tradition of men which means brethren. Don't believe they need some pastor or reverend priests telling them what god's words when they read it for themselves a policy that has made their leadership hierarchy confusing and it means a biblical interpretation can a little wonky from one group of brethren to the next not a lot of consistency somehow this poorly structured group of believers have managed to build an awesome website. And stay around for a long time in print pamphlets they still handout etc even though they have no real church leader other structures so loose brethren generally see themselves not as denomination but as a network of like minded independent churches. They believe that. All christians ordained by god to serve and therefore all our ministers and by all dudes easy ladies basically. Everyone is every geise pope. It's pump gang which we super sweet if they all wore cool. Pats pulled up to the church and pope melville's so much pope Brethren assemblies are led by local church elders within any given fellowship led by committee essentially in theory but of course leaders continue emerge in various brethren communities and early in the group's history. The study of prophecy was a major focal point. So that's that's fun. Whatever christian sects continues are or. You know folks. Excuse me on prophecy. It seems like they do it mostly for one reason. Predicting magadan win. Will god return and destroy this wicked shitty world rebuild it in a way that doesn't allow for carnal pleasure or other kinds of fun. We're sick of fun god. Please get rid of the fund So young hey grew up around a bunch of people who are waiting hoping for the world to end people who hated fun and so they keep harping on this thing about the hatred of fun and having provided a lot of evidence. I should probably do that now. go through some of their teachings to show why keeps saying that according to their website and this is their beliefs now There's there's about. Fifty thousand current members across australia new zealand europe in america's in uk and until two thousand five these members were forbidden from owning or using cell phones computers or even fax machines. Can't risk satan taking over your fax machine. Fax them evil pictures of his red devil or something The relaxed a bit on these rules. After two thousand five i'm guessing because they realize their entire movement would probably soon ended. They kept up that kind of tech band. Hard to find new people willing to say no to cell phones not a great recruitment policy. The brethren do continued to be pretty strict about technology. Do continue to be cautious and embracing technologies brought about through the electron engage concerned about how these technologies can can harm their their believers Believe were strictly forbidden from purchasing or probably even borrowing sex spots you know guessing Tv and radio still not permitted to this day except when used in an educational setting a school due to the fact that it's very difficult to filter out devil content sinful devilish conduct Mash gunsmoke and seinfeld reruns. Bizarrely members are only permitted to marry on tuesdays. Okay why have some big fun weekend celebration to kick off. Start a new life together with the person you adore most in the world dancing and drinking when you can have a very subdued in solomon sober tuesday wedding instead when we can stand around and worry about salvation instead of listening to good music and enjoying yourself and trying to get late. Brethren members are expected to attend church literally every day and on sunday many members attend church three times cult cult cult. Don't do anything outside of us. Don't do anything So much when it comes to family. Life brethren men expected to work while married. Women expected to stay at home under his. I may the lord open blessed be the fruit. Sorry sorry i do start. Hearing about mandated traditional generals. Like this i immediately. Think of the handmaid's tale Women mary early then. Don't work outside the home. Although exceptions can be made if they're working in their husbands business if he has one. Yes of glen. You can work the cash register but only your husband's store and only if you are a formless dress it doesn't showcase any your sinful devil curves specials biggest devil titties. I hate the way they make me feel my groin area. Also you can only work a man job. If you don't wear makeup aka sex paint and you can never be alone in the store with a man who's in your husband for even the briefest of moments also this important. If uneven walks into the store wearing a graphic tee shirt or hood your backpack et cetera has sexual imagery or profanity on it. Run home immediately locked the door. You'll just want approach for puppets and he will eat your eternal soul brethren also encouraged to set up their own businesses. It's the only way you can guarantee you don't end up in the sinful heading straight to hell employees of a non brethren like I don't know me and rhythm. Children are strongly encouraged to attend brethren. Only schools called focus schools. Tho- kinda fucking focus devils off to your left to right got fucking focus. And it's hard to ten these schools because there's not many of them because there's not that many members in this shit show Critics of plymouth brethren Accused of being colts. You know which i think is fair. Because he was all these controlling aspects to control their members lives They seem very cold like Like check out the the the two very colty primary forms of discipline in this religion. Shutting up and withdrawing from shutting up is a temporary measure where the offending brethren member is punished for sinning by being ostracized from their community. They're putting a big boy. You're bigger timeout. They're not allowed to have contact with any other members. Except for occasional visits from designated elders. Who will show up to quizzes them about their sin. Tell them what they need to do to get right. And then Assess whether they have repented sufficiently and should be allowed to return to the folder. Not so they don't have leader. Do have some sort of committee system. Like i said before this committee can wreak havoc on your life. If you choose to be part of all this silly bullshit So said some people feel like they need to put up with this kinda shit not to be punished by an angry sky. Daddy i would love one of these designated ehlers try and come into my house and quiz me about sin like how great that is if they just showed up at the wrong house and they seemed i was a member which i know is absurd. It would never happen but please allow me to have this fantasy. I like to think about how much fun i would have grabbing some pretentious old holy roller shit. And then just fucking punch stomach. Throw him over my knee. And then i'd give them a goal old school spanking right to spank him on this. You do not get to tell me shit will beat your purpose. S with the fucking built next time. And then i was given atomic wedgie fucking rip is underway until the elastic ripped off. They'll have lindsey kids. Who will be watching On open the front door and then literally throw that sakashita on the front porch. Just just go with. God get off my lawn. Dick wipe. I'll spank your ass again. I need to fantasy is tremendously satisfying today about how to love me. A righteous vengeance fancy anyway Now for the other more severe punishment. A person who is withdrawn from is cut off from all family contact and regarded as a pariah. They are exiled. It's like it's like the scientology suppressive person. I can't remember the terminology from last week. next cold. similar but their exiled from the brethren face totally abandoned you know just like he wanted cult cult cult. So that's who the brethren are and according to john hayes telling of his childhood expert and that's how the are recently so you can imagine how much worse it would have been a century ago. And according to john hayes telling of the child experiences you know you didn't have the best time grown up in that environment. Weird sounds like john problem. Let me get this straight buddy. You're saying it wasn't fun. Not being allowed to do anything. Your friends were doing instead. Have group lunatics talking about hell all the time john privately departed from the teachings of the brethren early on. He decided a lot of their teachings. Were bullshit and on that front Angry you know they're they're always telling. The god was always watching. That the church would know johnson and then he figured out when he started doing some bad shit noggin cut that they didn't know what he was up to. You know he suffered no consequences and he interpreted this as either god not paying attention to him or god not existing at all and then he went to this place in his head. Where if the main reason to be a good person and not be a center is to avoid god's wrath but then you find out that god either doesn't exist or dish out this wrath or just give a shit Then there's no reason to be a good person terrible way to look at it all in my opinion. But i do get on some level where he was coming from how he got there like from his perspective. The church early on taught him to externalize to outsource his morality to a big invisible guy in the sky instead of internalizing it in the sky no longer felt real when sky daddy disappeared. John's moral compass disappeared with him. And now john hey felt morally unbound free from guilt and fear free to do whatever horrible monstrous shed. He wanted to do while he wasn't doing any real horrible shit yet. I have to imagine at some point in his upbringing. He was who's thinking about it. Okay now that we've laid nice foundational coda background information paint on london and the plymouth brethren. Let's jump into the real reason we're here today. So let's examine. John's fucked up life in this week's time. Suck timeline read after some awesome sponsored deals. Are you organized time suckers. Could you be more organized. 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Village or a mining village was only a small settlement until nineteen seventy s when construction of new houses. 'cause it to grow and merge with neighbouring settlements such as rent rent thorpe and stanley is possibly the settlement of outward or as possible that the settlement of would gets earliest literary mentioned way. Back and fourteen hundred ce in the lateral gest of robyn hoed transcribed from at least a of robin hood and published in print form century. Later in fifteen hundred the prominent work features a mention of the name or phrase outwit John senior possibly mechanical engineer. Maybe a mining engineer some sources say. He was in like tradition. Something in the minds as i mentioned earlier. Both john georgia's parents members of the plymouth. brethren Called the peculiar people by some john senior especially was a religious fanatic sources. Don't say it. But i feel like he was probably one of the elders who came to senators hopes to see if they were begging god for forgiveness with the proper amount of of one of the guys. I would would've wanted to give a good spanking to before sending them out onto the lawn still love the fantasy The family was deeply entrenched in their faith. John senior built a seven to ten foot wall around his property. To keep out sinful heathens. There were his neighbors. He believed the entire world was filled with evil and the only way to protect himself and his family was through isolation. I didn't. I didn't work out too well for He sounds awesome. Sounds like a really cool dad. John senior sounds like he really made the most of his trips around the sun In actuality. I actually don't mind the big fence move. I want to look at my neighbors. either. When i'm out in the yard privacy I just don't like why he did it. I don't like the motivation. You wanna put up a big fans because you're private person maybe an introvert and you just wanna turn your backyard into your own little oasis week and high from the world. Fine i get good. Feel you wanna put a fence up because your neighbors aren't fellow plymouth brethren and therefore you think they're evil sinners you worry about them corrupting your family and dragging your souls into hell and you're fucking crazy references to the lord. We're used frequently to remind the young. Hey that he was always watching. It was always watching you. And he was always disapproving. He's an angry santa and he has his eye on you at all times. Young john's only friends were few pets. Kids weren't allowed to come over. Sometimes you cared for the neighbor's dog. Dad probably kept a close eye on that dog. Make sure it's not one of satan's hell hounds. John's parents such fanatics that all forms of entertainment that normal people enjoyed. Were strictly off limits. That meant no sports. God hates football and rugby and cricket. No bats show touch assigned balls for funsies so say at the lord god No carnivals go hates trying to pop a balloons with dot com. No social clubs go to hate the friendship up now having friends to hang out with or visit the house. Gold hates the visitors Little johnny georgia's even allowed to read magazines or newspapers. Because god's despises journalism are expected. John's child who is extremely lonely. Which is what god wants. He wants to be lonely and unfamiliar with the world. God made for them makes so much sense on your flatter The only entertainment. He was allowed where things are. He can do at home like listening to stories from the bible. Poor kid Also played the piano. He was allowed to do that and got pretty good at the piano. You can. You can play your songs. Little johnny georgie. But nothing secular. Okay or nothing okay. Few secular songs but nothing. You know edgy. No no love nest or anything else by that. Wicked john steele. Hear the sin coming off that hot. Nineteen twenty tracks so big. Yeah that's just. G j iceberg playing john stealing all the best new nineteen sinful sound. Okay i'm back John parents john's parents tried to terrify stories. About god's on this punishment when he was young boy keep him scared to deviate from straight narrow to really scare their son. John senior had a blue blemish. That was run down the center of his forehead which he'd most likely gotten from some type of electrical accidents but he told little john that it was the mark of a sinner and he got it do to him misbehaving youth. He made get believe this and now everyone would know. He was once a wicked man johnson. Your once told us on. I have sindh and satan has punished me. If you ever sin satan will mark you with the blue black pencil. Likewise what's weird quote blue pencil. Fuck be afraid of satan's pence or little johnny as one might expect a blue mark She did scare a little johnny. He don't wanna be giving the same mark. Who would john would later. Say gave a great deal of anxiety to kit and the thing about his dad's words led him to being plagued by terrifying nightmares featuring trees. That bled things like that. How many serial killers have been created at least partially created largely by an overly religious childhood full of fear based messages of angry. Got we think fifty percent seventy. I'm guessing at least half a. John said his dad john senior also made him believe that his mom. Emily was literal angel. That's why she didn't have the mark because she was perfect. That to me is almost a crazier message than the blue mark. Trying to visit your kids that you're their mom is an actual angel getaway to have them end up thinking that religion is nonsense. I just picture little johnny. Like hair like a trumpet. Like blast coming out of the kitchen. They runs in smell something rotten. What it angel mom. Just let one rip. That doesn't seem like something in angel would do. Angels aren't supposed to smell like rotten eggs and vinegar Earlier hayes only company aside from his acquaintances at school and his parents were as pets. I'll talk about what young. Hey did to these creatures. I gave them up the pets and shower them with love. Not getting it seems to treat it his pets very well contrary to the common serial killer narrative. Hey was never cruel to animals. At least not until you spent time in prison later and it wasn't so nicest in mice. We'll talk about that a bit but not as a kid wasn't nine cats together by their tails wasn't light on fire wasn't holding dogs underwater anything. It wasn't putting gerbils and sox swing them around like a helicopter. Blade slammed him to wall or some zero signs the act of cruelty or demonstrated the aggression. He would use on his fellow man later in life. And i've never heard of anyone doing that. Gerbil helicopter thing by the way by. I bet it's happened you know. What has what we think. That's like that But seriously though to new john georgia's youth little johnny g. Remember that he was a sensitive kid. He was kind to animals. He was kind of people as a kid. Makes me again wonder how differently. His life could have turned out had he been raised differently overall. John george hey was lonely but well behaved as a kid Fearful that satan markham is a center and then young. John did get into trouble which was rare his mom. Emily would spank him with a hairbrush. As angels are want to do angels fucking love to be kids with hairbrushes. Anyone who's ever met an angel knows that they play harps and they dish out hairbrush s. Wilkins john claimed that the bristles of the brush would cause him to bleed and then he would somehow lick himself clean so he must have been pretty flexible. claims experience with a trigger for his desire to drink blood and later years and school. John was considered a bright student by teachers after school He would allegedly. This is so funny to be terrible sad but also funny he. He would literally run home as soon as the final bell rang per the instructions of his parents in order to quote keep the evil of his classmates from destroying him. Wow imagine that is your childhood. Imagine having parents who are telling you to literally run home from school to keep your evil godless classmates from destroying your soul and sending you into satan's fucking buttle were terrible thing to do the kids brains Little john george was also a real intelligent kid. makes a childhood even saturday. Me must have known from an early age that his parents were a couple of nutters. He also to his piano playing developed quite the fondness for classical music. Probably only shit. He was allowed to listen to church music. He was allowed to listen to stop by. Like you know. Sebastian bach and antonio vivaldi tchaikovsky as a teenager on the sly hey finally began to get a little bit of social life. He let his wicked devil classmates corrupt. Emily started indulgent indulging in activities. He knew his parents and god would not be cool with lying to his parents about what he was up to like. Sometimes sneaking out to me with friend who were not always members of the same sex is put his soul in great peril. Begun list of fina. Take your gorgeous body that feels so good to touch and to be touched. A carnal body build with pleasurable nurse center designed for ecstasy and throw a garbage bag over yourself. Go praying corner again when out and behave like a normal teenager. Nothin happened God pungwe guy. Didn't give him a mark Satan didn't take his magic blue pencil drawn his forehead. He didn't even get smited like a tiny bit. His parents almost never caught and doing anything. Not even mom. She didn't beat him with their heaven. Hairbrush it's almost like his childhood was a web of needless lies and again knowing he could get away with things was an important turning point in his behavior so he would say later spite the childhood isolation despite the strict fear based religious ideals john did become a good communicator with his fellow. Man somehow shelley became a real smooth talker. Actually you figured out how to always seem to say the right thing to say to get himself out of trouble. Probably had to learn that i guess as a kid like just it was so strict save himself. Some hairbrush beats at learn how to manipulate others And he did learn that he was real good at manipulating others into doing what he wanted to do. And that ability would soon lead to a con artist career His intelligence would also help him pull off his cons during his late teen years. He won several scholarships on one to queen elizabeth wakefield grammar school one another to wakefield cathedral where it became a choirboy by the time he made it to wakefield he was also an accomplished peanuts organist. He was a student who consistently received high marks. John left school age seventeen. He was apprenticed to a motor engineer where he could follow an interest he had at the time in fast cars however while he did love fast cars he soon realized he hated. Get his hands dirty so after about a year he left the garage and look for a job where he could dress sharp and stay clean and ended up working at the wakefield education community as a clerk. They decided that job wasn't really well suited for his taste. Either and before long he was onto the next thing. July twenty fourth nineteen twenty nine. John turned twenty. You gotta third job working as an underwriter insurance and advertising firm. He was a briefly successful and fascinated by the money that could be made. The wealth wealthy was attached the insurance and advertising industries and he and he did well enough to buy himself a bright red alpha male and then six months later and early nineteen thirty at the age of only twenty. He was dismissed from the firm after being suspected of stealing from cashbox. Whoops got a little impatient with his wealth building goals Better ourselves alfa romeo. And i'm not a huge anti cargo but the nineteen twenty nine six seventeen fifty supersport pre smoothing gar. Never looked it up before I've inspired by this episode. Didn't alpha males ribbon around that for back They've been making cars in italy since one thousand nine hundred anyway. Okay i know it has nothing to do with our narrative a four years later nine hundred thousand four. John's life really begins to change. It stops going to his parents. Church he marries. Beatrice betty hammer twenty one year. Old woman barely knew despite having been impressed by hayes manners charm. She would later say. She was uncertain from the start about his character but still went ahead with the marriage. The two were wed on. July sixth nineteen thirty four. Some sources describe betis being high-spirited and an independent young woman doesn't sound like a lady plymouth brethren would approve of and then she got some serious glares mold. John senior emily but john senior satan blemish slash electrical scar slash. Maybe it's varicose vein. Or big normal vein or something on his forehead was bullshit thought the john junior a charming and gifted liar snappy dresser may have tricked betty into thinking he was wealthy. He wasn't truth was he. Didn't even have enough money to pay apartment rent. So young couple moved into john's parents home. Which i'm guessing was a huge bummer. For everyone involved shortly after moving back in with his folks john aside and he didn't wanna work for another boss again so we started up his own business for some may have been a great idea but for john is a terrible idea. His new business conceptualize while living under the roof of to plymouth brethren was focused around forging documents for vehicles so less of a business more of a criminal racket in october of nineteen thirty four now twenty. Five year old john gets caught by the authorities for the first and far from the last time ends up. Getting sent to prison for fraud was been fifteen months behind bars after being sentenced by leads. Xaus look court at the time the very next month only about four months after the couple got married. Betty does not stand by her and smartly files for divorce sadly while john was incarcerated before he left him he'd gotten betty pregnant and then betty gave birth to a baby daughter who she put for adoption. Our sean may have been okay with. He actually may have been the one to push away. Hey would say later that. He saw her once after he was imprisoned and we asked we entered visit him then during their brief visit allied to her claiming they were never officially wed because he already had a wife at the time so she was free to go a good riddance. But there's no evidence he did have another wife so maybe he that was just his way of just you know having her galway Whether it was mostly his choice for mostly hers. Betty did move away in hopes. She would never see john again. In january of nineteen thirty six. John returns to his parents. Home after getting out of prison Sure they were embarrassed at all. Sure the brethren friends weren't talking crazy shit about them behind their backs. Twenty-six-year-old john now partners up with someone upon returning home sources. Don't give a name and start to dry cleaning business much better plan than forging documents and for a while it does well. He likes the businesses. I it's accessible. He's making real money in a legal way. He's wearing dry cleaned. Fancy clothes things are looking good. He's looking good but then a tragic motorcycle accident takes the life business partner and the business collapse and this is obviously very disappointing for him and the experience leaves him extremely bitter just when it seemed like he was getting ahead everything falls apart and this is one of those major pivotal moments. You often come across in the biography of some dirtbag got another way. You wonder if their life would have a bent away from the direction of murder and mayhem permanently. Like had john georgia's business partner. Lived or if the business could have been saved after his partner's death would john george johnny g johnny georgia. Portia pudding pie would have still gone down the path to murder for money years later in john's mind was apparently the last straw in his mind. He had tried to make it as a legit businessmen and failed so obviously the good god amway maker of quality extreme men hair. Potty in affordable unisex anti dandruff shampoo had decreed that he turned to a life of crime hail the good god amway just hopped on this crazy suck train for the first time. Today you're thoroughly confused. the amway. God's silliness has to last week The age twenty six. John has to Has now done. Excuse me a stint in prison. He's been divorced. He's had a baby. He's never met put up for adoption. He's had his business dialogue with his business partner and his parents think he's on the past to eternal damnation. So things are going pretty well and then things get better. John's parents are aren't actually convinced that he is going to hell. And just he They think he's so bad that he's going to bring their souls down to hell with him. Young hey has raised too many our eyebrows and the brethren community for too long so his parents do at all good ethical parents do and they cut their son out of their lives forever. They banish him. he is withdrawn from. He's a pariah. The elder brethren have decreed it in god's name Thank god for giving me the strength to throw away my relationship with my only child with my only son uday plymouth brethren gory to your nippert cruel family hating fuck head of a god later. Nineteen thirty six year. The pariah moves to london with no income. No connections family. Lean on on desperate hunt for employment superfund during the global economic depression of the nineteen thirties. He quickly comes across an ad to be a chauffeur at a local amusement park. You read that you heard that right. You didn't read it. I read it. Amusement park chauffeur. Somehow that was the thing. We're weird job title so fun for me to try and picture. Got to pick up those high rollers at the train depot. Get them to the tilted world. vip style. I actually picture him being a bumper car chauffeur Driver be bricky batty fang. These capital abbas that start some kalish angles that old time. Uk slang was legit by the way John applied for this weird job and thanks to his to bullshit. Hurry he's hired on the spot by the owner of the park amend name william mic swan. John probably does not as close his lengthy criminal record during the interview process and back. Then it's not like anyone can just go run quick digital background check. The job would go beyond that of simple chauffeur's since john had a bit of mechanical background. He's tasked with repairs and maintenance of the park machinery and equipment. Despite the boss employee relationship the two men become good friends. they have similar interests. They both like wearing fancy clothes driving. Sports cars william likes john so much. He soon introduces him to his parents. Donald and amy mic swan in. This would years later proved to be a fatal mistake for all three of them Donald amy also take a liking to john. I think he's a good worker. They're happy there son. Such good employees and early on john was a good employee. He was great and he'd soon be promoted to the of manager but because john was unreasonably ambitious and impatient. This promotion not enough. You don't wanna be the manager. I wanted to be the owner but that was obviously for any rational person not a promotion. Was going to give since that would mean he would have to leave the company. He had no interest in selling so after just year of working from swan he decides to leave moves towards what he thought were bigger and better opportunities. He decided to return to a life of crime limit. Swan sorry to see him go if only he would stay gone forever his neck idea to make some cash is to set up an office and present himself as a solicitor. A type of british lawyer. A lawyer who can deal with more minor le- legal dealings not the lawyer. represents our clients in court still has to wear a wig and gown That's a barrister it. Hey somehow sneak off and get some type of legal training real quick. No of course not zo scam. He uses the name of another well regarded company steal some of their clients yet. We actually pulled this off. He received a bunch of payments from these new clients caches their checks and then instead of providing any of the legal services they just paid for he just fucking bounces and to try and avoid getting caught. He moves to a different part of london and then sets up another similar shop under a different name and does the whole thing all over again and then he just keeps repeating this the balls on this guy i guess he just crossed his fingers hoped he would never come across a growing number of people he was really funny from. Oh hey thomas so happy to see you know. No i did not. Just take your money and run. What that's absurd. Did you not get my letter. The one i sent you the one. I sent you a letter. That i was still of course handling your case. There's of course. But i had moved to a new office. Change the name of my firm drastically changed. My appearance changed my name. And as you can see by the moving boxes around me well. Let's get ready to change. Everything wants more a move. I of course would soon be notifying you about and yet another latte out. Now if you'll excuse me chap known about and run down the street and hide from you. Reports of johnny giorgis fraudulent behavior started a pile up and the police tracked him down pretty quickly and less than a year. He was arrested in nineteen thirty seven crazy. That's camden workout. And this time after being found guilty of being a fake ass lawyer. Taking a lot of people's money he's a sent to prison for four years by the surrey assizes court and he will serve the full term upon his release from prison in august of nineteen forty one now. Thirty two year old. Hey focuses on being locked up again as soon as humanly possible. I don't know if that was his actual focus per se. But that's what happened within a year. He's back inside now. Twenty one months for theft by the time he was released again in may of nineteen forty-three. It's plain to see that. The thirty four year old former plymouth brethren choirboy is never going to lead an honest life. You're in his most recent trip to the clink. You come up with a plan that would temporarily change his life for the better and change the lives of at least half a dozen others For the worst like as in the most worse as in their lives will be changed. The most you can change your life which is to end it. John came up with what he thought was the perfect crime. He convinced himself that. If no one could find a corpse to bury the no one can prove a murder or any other crime had taken place which was actually not how that works. This misconception is my favorite part of this story. the english legal system didn't quite see it the same way. No country's legal code to my knowledge sees it that way. No one has a if you can thoroughly disposable body then you don't get to be arrested you can never be arrested if the body is gone then no crime. You can't be caught. No one has that kind of loophole. If sell a sophisticated serial killer with an incinerator in their home would be very hard to arrest. Be very hard to keep from continually killing weird officer. That is crazy. You're telling me the last time over two hundred people were seeing was when they walk into my house over the past. Five years Extra weird that. My neighbors keep reporting seeing that my incinerator smokestack is kicking out burnt flesh and films all night every night kooky on him. You're welcome to inspect incinerator. I just had it thoroughly cleaned in bleached again as i do every day. It's pretty cool. Actually huge step inside. I can show you the whole thing works John's new million dollar crime plan is simple go. after rich. older women gain access to their money. Kill them your bodies disappear. He's built for this. He knew could be a charming dude. You knew how to dress. Sharpen sale right things. His fake lawyer scam taught him how to talk to people with money he felt like older women widows unmarried women who are desperate and lonely could be easily manipulated by a younger dapper man like himself and he had to kill. It was the cleanest way to make the most money. He thought about how he married them once. He drained their accounts. They be furious and they'd be hard to get rid of no bueno. They complicate his attempts at moving onto the next scam victim could be angry. Family members to deal with a divorce could be messy lawyers. Want some of the money. It could all be such a big hassle but if he can quickly kill them to make their bodies disappear then he would never get in trouble since there's evidence and he can just you know just make all this money. Virtually risk free. This actually is a basic summary of what his crazy ass thought about. All this The prison he just been released from had metal shop and it was where he and his fellow prisoners could learn skills towards the trae To make themselves more economically viable upon their release and this is where john developed his body disposal skills. This is where he learned about sulfuric acid one of the chemicals. He and the other workers regularly would use in this metal shop and john. That is acid would absolutely completely disintegrate human body and it does not very close it almost but not quite so furic. Acid highly corrosive used to be known as the oil of vitriol. Light yellow or clear in color. Sometimes dark brown dye added so that it's recognized easily as the hazard so uric acid soluble in water. Regardless of the strength of its concentration. The higher the concentration the more destructive it is one of the most common uses uric. Acid is drain cleaning agents also used extensively in a variety of industries including fertilizer production Oil refinery mineral processing wastewater processing this acid decomposes lipids and proteins when it comes into contact with flesh and skin the waterfront. Acid solution causes reaction. Went fats and proteins in the body. These are broken down into a sludge of fatty and amino acids the acid causes a catalyst with the high drugs. A appetite found bones reducing them to a solution of phosphate and calcium. But although sulfuric acid can be successful in breaking down most human tissue and most of our bones it never seems to completely destroy the entire body. Not quite there always seems to be some parts left behind even if only a microscopic level bone fragments gallstones dentures. Parts of the body. also Harder to break down his easily. Can fat Will require a much higher. Concentration of sulfuric acid will hey was inspired to try and use this. Acid dissolve further murder victims or jimmy. Future isn't killed anybody yet. Future murder victims by another killer. He'd recently heard about a george or georgia seret confined his name actually said but anyway. This was an italian born french. Criminal whose guillotine for a double murder in april of nineteen thirty four. He killed at least two people then. Use acid to dissolve their bodies and when john heard about these murders he thought that's a great idea. He's inspired and he begins to practice dissolving flesh in the prison metal shop Nord apparently the threat story that ends with him literally getting his head fucking chopped off He working on trying to figure out the right ratio. The right measurements. Do the job correctly with the help. Fellow prisoners prisoners who bring him mice to experiment on he literally practices disposing dissolving. Flesh and acid glass jars. When the kitchen he would study the effects of the acid on mice figuring out the length of time it would take for each mouse to dissolve without a trace later. He said it only took about thirty minutes to completely dissolve mouse. Once he had the recipe figured out. And then john then calculated what he thought was the right amount of acid needed for humans. You read books on asses in the prison library He listened other criminals. Talk about their crimes. He literally studied on how to commit what he thought would be the perfect murder. He studied up on british law. Which would have worked out better for him if you'd have actually been a real solicitor not a fake one before because he misunderstood of very simple legal term. His studies the inspired all of this as a reference earlier. Hey believed that. If there was no evidence of a corpse there was no crime to be charged with and he thought this due to a gross misunderstanding of the latin legal expression corpus delicti which actually refers to the body of crime not an actual body not an actual corpse would corpus delicti. Means is that a crime must be proved to have before a person can be convicted of committing said crime. For example person can't be tried for larceny unless it can be proven. The property has been stolen but you can prove the properties been stolen without finding the stolen goods. This is the part of this. He misses is harder but it can be done. And another example in order for a person to be tried for arson has to be proven that that a criminal act resulted in the burning of properties occurred. Black's law dictionary. Six edition defines corpus. The fact of a crime having been actually committed makes sense. Can't charge one someone with crime if there is no evidence that a crime has been committed but with murder. Just because you can't find a body that doesn't mean that other evidence can't put you in prison for murder that has improved that you know. Someone hasn't been murdered and his will later. See all this actually end up being moot anyway because John will get lazy and leave enough evidence of crimes being committed to to be charged with those crimes but in his mind is plan is foolproof. Nobody no prison that simple. He's needs to be released back into society to put his stupid plan into action back to may of nineteen forty three now so he gets released. He's thirty three years old and he doesn't get right to kill him. He needs time to hone in on his first victims to find some with money. The who can get close enough to to access their money to access their assets. Its job as an accountant for engineering business. Which i'm guessing He got because he managed bullshit his way into having them think he had an accounting background. When you didn't. I smart enough to pull this off for a little while manages to stay out of trouble for a little bit. Then he takes a new job as a salesman probably easier for from to fake You know i have to fake. He can be a salesman with without having some kind of You know business background. I also land girlfriend meets young woman named barbara stevens who despite their twenty year age gap. She's only fifteen. He's thirty four coming up on thirty five. falls in love with john. Back in the days when 34-year-olds sex with fifteen year olds didn't result immediately going to prison. If you're caught he even lives. Barbara stained with stevens family. I'm sure there were pumped and she will remain with him until his next and final arrest and even afterwards she'll visit him in jail in mid nineteen forty four still thirty four year old. Hey involved in a car. Accident suffers a wound to his head. The causes him To bleed into his mouth he later refers to this event as the reason for a recurrence of his blood soaked. Weird nightmares from childhood shortly. afterwards basement. Apartment at seventy nine gloucester road where he sets up his first body disposal workshop. Hard to set that up in your girlfriend's parents. Place mr missile stevens. How would you feel about me. Setting up some giant containers in the basement and filling them sulfuric acid absolutely not. That's that's that's quite fair in this workshop. Hey claim to be working on inventions but the room was actually a death trap where he lured unsuspecting victims and late summer of nineteen forty four while at a public house aka bar and kensington an affluent district of west central london. Hey runs into an old friend and former employer amusement park owner william mix swan poor bastard the catch up with a drink or two in the local pub and i highly doubt john tells will that he's you know spent most of the time since they lost last saw each other in prison or that. He's been working on a body disposal workshop. Really m how. Have you been a bloody good to see you arizona. The old amusement park. How your mom and dad i'll brilliant. What have i been up to prison. Mostly not as easy as i once thought to be a fake solicitor and hide from people who have money from Well living land won't be making that mistake again. I have a new scam. I've set up an acid based body disposal laboratory in the basement of my new flats. And i'm very excited to get to some risk free kitten. Say what might play. Some snuck up william happy to see they'll even insisted that. Hey go and visit his parents who has turned out. Were also happy to see. Hey sucks for all them During the encounter that makes tell john about a handful of recent investments they've made on some properties and bingo bango. John has his first victims picked out. He puts his plan into motion. This family isn't the elderly widow he initially planned on targeting but he thinks they'll do just fine. We and john now socialize for the for the summer and the whole time. Hey just waiting for the right time to strike how utterly harmless dues hanging out. Having drinks laugh and create memories with people he plans on murdering in the near future. People who've been nothing but kind and helpful to him he's hanging out with the man who gave him a job gave promotion. Who still a big fan. After john quit and took off pretty sure the plymouth brethren would not be pleased any of this september nineteen forty four. John meets up with william local pub called d. goat on kensington high street as pumps at the top his His flat at the time. This is still there. Been there since sixteen ninety five actually sadly though according to some recent trip advisor reviews. It appears that. Kobe has just shutdown just as as of a few weeks ago after three centuries of continual operation fuck and twenty twenty. Hope a new pub comes back to life there wilson back to ninety four with london's still dealing with You know bombs being dropped john. Georgy porgy invites william to come down to his murder workshop to check out the space. I bet you can guess what happens next when the to make it to the bottom of the stairs and william and main attention john for a moment john picks up one of the many blunt objects about the room and bashes his friend in the fucking head and killed him in his diary john later right that he had a sudden hunger for blood so he slit his buddy and former employers throat filled. A mug with the man's blood is drained out of his neck then drank it while it was still warm and somehow did not immediately throw it up so disgusting. What do you do after you just knocked back a pint. Your buddies blood d- let satisfied belch the assays empty like ooh delicious. Brilliant bloody good blood. John then places williams corpse into a forty gallon drum fills it with the concentrated sulfuric acid the toxic fumes almost immediately. Knock him out. He feels sick. They force him out of the room. At the fumes clear. John goes back in put a lid on top of the drum and then goes to sleep that night again. According to his diary he's supposedly suffers from more blood-filled nightmares. next day. He returns to see what sort of progress the acid is made and he fucking pumped. It's worked all that is left of. William is a lumpy liquid sludge so gross that he simply then pours down the drain. He would later say that. The success of this first perfect murder filled him with euphoria picks the shuman gremlin a fucked up. Little victory dance maybe not a happy little squeal. Hey had gotten away with murder for the time being. What about getting rich. Well that's in motion that's coming Williams death only step one of that plan ways. Parents are next targets and while he waits to kill them for their money he begins to liquidate their sons assets. He quickly visits williams parents. Tell them the william has gone into hiding. He's gone into hiding so he won't be called up for military duty and hey then spent a full year. Sending items and writing letters that were supposedly written by william who supposedly in scotland to williams parents and during this year by four gene variants documents. That old fake law degree coming in handy. John is able to obtain all of williams assets including four thousand pounds in cash properties in raynes park wimbledon park Beckenham park now. He is the amusement park owner. He was hoping become years earlier. Got that promotion after all is said to kill for it. According to a police report during this time just before his plan move on the surviving mic swans. Hey may have also murdered a middle aged woman from hammersmith will never know for sure how many bodies ended up in his workshop acid bass in early nineteen forty five. He upgrades is murder shop. It's the equipment including stir pump a face masks to protect him from fumes. Even a bathtub made of steel paints it to make it more resistant to corrosion. Now he's got an actual bath. Tub situation put bodies in and dissolve them on july second. Nineteen forty five. Hey visits is dead. Friends elderly parents for the last time soon after stepping inside their home without any warning or hesitation he beats both of them to death. He incapacitates them with blunt force. Trauma to the head slits their throats later. He'd say that he again filled a mug with their combined blood and drank. It is apparently his kill ritual now then transports their bodies back to his body melting garage. Where a forty gallon drum filled with acid awaits them both like before they melt into sludge and he pours them down the drain. It is again. It's just so crazy to me. He's literally pouring people down the drain once again feels like he's committed the perfect crime and he gets back to work taking over their assets. Now he goes to the landlady tells her that the couple has gone on a trip to america forms that he will be taking care of their mail and it should be all forwarded to him because he's a handsome fellow. She agrees bump on any this. John now seeks and gets power of attorney over the swans money and property by presenting himself to the court as missing and murdered son. William he's been perfecting. William signature is documents that only williams should have. He's already been collecting williams pension checks. All this works. He's able to forge a property. Deed that had been owned by mrs mic swan and by filing under his new false identity. He's able to make another thousand pounds selling its then. He sells the family securities possessions and properties. Investigators later estimated. Hey made another six thousand pounds off of williams parents might not sound like much that translates to around two hundred sixty one thousand pounds today about three hundred and forty thousand dollars. Maybe not the biggest pay day he dreamed of back in prison. But not exactly chump change now. John has a bunch of cash and the pleasure of knowing. He's beaten the system three times. His plan is worked but his taste for luxury and in a in a new gambling habit mean that he will soon need more money and to get it. More people will have to die. He moves his murderer operations to a different workshop. It to leopold road in the town of crawley sussex to ensure he won't get caught he also while he waits for his next victim runs an old scam similar to his previous fake lawyer racket. He now presents himself as liaison officer. That deals with patents. He sets up fake branches of this fake business and several towns ribs people off then closes shop and moves locations to a confession he made later. It was somewhere around this time. That he kills and dispose of a young man. A max from kensington. There are many details regarding the murder. But it's assumed if he did commit murder that he pulled the same routine blow to the head slit the throats governing blood desecrates and dissolves the remains in acid and then dumps to human sludge. Hey didn't get near the amount of money he wanted from max. That's he claimed. He decides to now scout for wealthy victims at the george hotel inexpensive localish mint where the wealthy often gathered and he's counts out possible murder victims in june nineteen forty seven. He likely committed a different kind of murder. Hey claimed that his car along gotta or a law gone luganda. God luganda kind of british. Luxury car was stolen but soon after he made his claimed correspond smashed at the bottom of cliff and then and unin dot an unidentified body is found near the wreckage. The police decided that. The two incidents were unrelated. But were they were. They really hate denied having anything to do with his body even after his arrest. I guess it could be coincidence. That a random dead body is found near the wreckage of the car of a serial killer but it sure seems suspicious. Hey told his girlfriend barbara that he wrecked the car on purpose hoping to collect insurance money even took her to the spot where the luganda had plunged off the cliff. I didn't say anything to her about the body. But why would he in. August of nineteen forty seven. Hey mate meets his next victims. Dr bald henderson. Fifty two years old and henson's wife roads. Who was forty-one hey met the well-traveled couple when they were selling their home. You approach them asked him about their financial situation. Promised him he could offer them more than the house was worth. Act like a perspective buyer like the swans. The couple are impressed in charm by. Hey the new friends bondo remedial interest in classical music and eventually the couple Tells hey about where they you know sat financially hayes disappointed. The henderson henderson's didn't have as much money as he thought not as much as the mc swans but he still felt like they were worth killing and he spent the next several months developing a plan to liquidate them in both literal and figurative sense at one point as he's planning their murders. He steals a revolver from the hendersons house so when he goes to kill them they're not gonna be able to shoot them or shoot him. You know if that's how it works out. Or he want some poetic way to kill them later. He also wrote in his diary about how you wanted to separate the two in order to make the task of bludgeoned him easier. If that's Murder method chose. He decided to go. After archibald i on february twelfth nineteen forty eight. John invites dr henderson to his workshop under the pretense of checking out one of his inventions archibald. What you doing this evening no chip. I'd love you to swing by workshop and take a gander my latest venture. You can make it splendid. I couldn't be more excited to put on a private demonstration. What is my invention. It's a bit of a surprise. But let me just say that. It's definitely not a steel tub. I will furic acid to then. Don't be able into bashing your head slitting your throat and drinking your won't blood it's not it's not that's nossa she'll you does most definitely not away from me to dissolve your remains into an unpleasant sludge will then pour into the drain thus removing you from the planet before pursuing your wife do then treat to the same doc fate not that attack. I would be bloodied. Thiru wouldn't it so don't worry about any of that. Unpleasant sorted business See tomorrow man. On the twelfth john and archibald drive from the metropole hotel in brighton metropole hotel in brighton. Where the hendersons live to hayes. Murder cave as soon as they arrive at the workshop. Hey takes out dr henderson's own gun and shoots him with it. Just need said a few words before he pulled the trigger. I mean i don't think you steal a man's gun hide it. Then invite him over and kill him with it and not share some dramatic words. You just feel so plant if if so dramatic like colby and quietly bludgeon the guy. You don't bother stealing his gun and then using on him at your own place knock knock. Archibald what's that john it's a knock knock jokes. They long jonah. Who's there your gun. What my gun. Yes archibald your gun now play along say your gun who find john but this feels like a terrible joke your gun who your gun just shot your john of makes no sense. I don't like this. it's not funny no. I'm not finished with the punchline bang. And now i'm laughing. All the way to your bank archibald do you get now. I don't know maybe he did something like that. Just trying to say it's unclear whether or not hey drink dr anderson's blood but dr anderson's body does for sure end up dumped into the acid drum and now hey prepares to kill archibald wife rose he drives back to the metropole hotel tells rose The doctor hasn't gotten sick. Oh his knock knock joke that she needs to come back with. Hey his place immediately and all that is true except for the knock knock part Rose accepts offer a ride to go back to the workshop where she meets of course the same fate as knock knock rose. What's his about his there. The man who you think is your friend would really as the man who will drink your blood after shooting you with your husband's gun and slitting your throat the man who just killed your husband and drink his blood the man who dumped his body into a tub of acid turning him into a sludge the man who do the same to you before dumping you're down the drain and taking your money. What a pity the. I've i've heard this joke before. What ads impossible. It's so specific to this highly unusual situation. Yes i've heard it. My nephew told me i think so. Let me get destroy every and then say who. And then you say something stupid and should be right really. What are the odds that you did hear that. It's just so dreadfully disappointing. Go home rose. You've ruined my evening. I didn't want to shoot you now. They don't want to spoil everything. And i'm quite sad. Came back now. I know that was ridiculous. Of course he kills her as soon as she enters the building. Hey shoots her in the head drains enough for blood to fill a mug drinks. It dumps her body into an acid vet but this time the remains don't dissolve entirely already getting a little bit sloppy. He doesn't completely destroyed. The remains of rose henderson when he comes back later to pour her down the drain her foot. One of her feet is still mostly intact. And hey for some reason i. It doesn't feel like you know putting some more acid on. It doesn't feel like given the foot the acid treatment instead. He dumps the sludge. That was once the henderson's and the intact foot in the corner of the yard or the foot just sits there. He's strange he makes no attempt to conceal the evidence. It's almost like a guy who drinks cups of his murders victims. Blood doesn't have all this shit together. with the sights. Now set on their assets. He goes back to the hendersons hotel. Pay their bill to make. It seem like they've moved out and then steals literally everything they owned and sells it all. Well almost all of it. He's a total of eight thousand pounds over two hundred thousand pounds or three hundred eighty two thousand dollars in today's money and then a weird flex decide to keep their car and their dog and then he treats the dog very well. Man meets ex. How does some of us end up like this was such a weird species. Like he had with william. Hey gives off the impression that the hendersons are still alive. By writing letters to rose's brother berlin in these letters he writes. Dr henderson had performed an abortion illegally. Authorities were looking for in an effort to skirt. The law the two had moved to south africa and keeps us lineup for weeks. At one point. Berlin is ready to go to the police but the abortion story keeps them from doing. So if it's true. He doesn't want to rat out his sister and brother-in-law little does he know you know both of them are dead. Hey also gives his girlfriend barbara. Some of mr henderson's close to where some for coats jewelry. It's speculated that he Told her that he bought them making. It seem like you you know. He's a he's fucking kicking ass making the same to his young girlfriend like he's crushing it. Let's pause here on hayes murder time line and discussed the pathology of serial killers and gift-giving well known to anyone who's in a true crime that serial killers keep trophies from their victims according to john. Douglas one of the fbi profile is one of the original profiles. We covered him in the f. b. i. b. s. you suck Keeping some memento lock of hair jewelry newspaper clips of the crime helps prolong even nourish the fantasy of the crime. I wen- ted. Bundy was asked why he took polaroid photos of his victims. He said so disturbing. He said when you hard to do something right you don't wanna forget it. That's unbelievably cold shit to say and it says so much about the mind of a serial killer. Killing people is nothing more than a game. Nothing more than a sport when you play a good game and you play sport when you do well. You want that trophy. Dennis rader btk killer. He wants sucked kept locked treasure chest trophies in the basement of his home which helped him to prolong in heightened his auto erotic fantasy life as he recalled each of the victims Special agent. Douglas also had this to say about all this. What's interesting is that. The often give the souvenir particularly jewelry to a family. Member or significant other the recipient could be the wife or girlfriend who was causing the subject grief for the time of the crime or was involved in a confrontation with him. While the subject goes out commits the crime and like the cat who catches the mouse brings it back and drops it on the doorstep present his wife or mother with a piece of jewelry and say look. I found it on the street. I want to give it to you. When he sees his person who is part of his life wearing the item it becomes part of the game he looks at it and fantasizes about the victim he raped or murdered and it's like his own little secret if only she knew what she's wearing right now came from one of my victims both and gary clean ridgway. The green river killer gave their trophies. Usually jewelry to family members and intimate partners ridgway also returned a mass burial sites. He had for victims buried them a few places in their corpses became his trophies to. He wants it after his arrest there my possession so i have feelings of only. I know where they're at is my property. I miss him. It felt like they were taking something of mine that i put there. He said that when the bodies were covered how weird for the wives and girlfriends of mothers etc these dudes when they find out where these gifts came from right flashing back and all the people you showed that ring to flashing back to moments of you admiring the jewelry thinking about how good it made you feel to have it now. You can't think about that with also thinking about without also thinking about you know people getting murder. The okay back to john to february of nineteen forty-nine hey continues to gamble burn through his murder money on luxury pastimes like gourmet food great clothes. Fast cars. fancy hotels. He's spending money like it's his probably because it isn't and he gets into some financial trouble he's quickly burned through all of his acid basso and he takes out some loans and then he doesn't make loan payments so now he's overdrawn overdrawn at the bank and then the manager of the oslo court hotel where. He's still staying presses him for rent rent money that he does. He needs more money now to pay his hotel bills. Pale these loans. He needs it fast on his devious mind. Of course more people have to die because he truly has fucks to give about almost anyone other than himself starts heartlessly planning on murdering the mother of former schoolfriend. A school friend that had recently died whom he had spotted in the obituary section of a local newspaper. Hey plans to kill her dispose of the grieving mothers remain by dump it on the down the drain and obtaining an selling. Her possessions ruined his plan by dying before he can kill her. The nerve this lady so he quickly has to move on set-asides elsewhere he'd been living at the oslo court hotel in south kensington for a few years now and he met several other long term residents including mrs durand deacon who is sixty nine years old the widow of a solicitor the late. John durand deacon and you know john hey of course knew how to talk the solicitor game because he had once been fake solicitor. Who took people's money in the moved across town Mrs de durand. Deacon lived in hotel for six years and she and hey had had many brief polite conversations as their paths crossed during mealtimes around the halls and hey hit always noted that you seem to have no shortage of for coats inexpensive jewelry. I joked about hey telling all of he was a solicitor like her deceased husband. Not sure he actually told that. Lie he did lie until her. He was an engineer and inventor and that lie would lead her right into a trap because one day all of brought an idea to. Hey the inventor said. She wanted to create an create artificial fingernails. Something incredibly popular today. A smart lady. She hoped it hey could help her develop his idea and get it to the market and he told her of course that he could absolutely do that. Splendid that's no problem whatsoever. Olive meet me at my workshops cited midnight. Tell no one you'll coming. We can't be too careful. London is absolutely loaded with industrial spies. Right now who will stop at nothing to steal your intellectual property and any no riches that come from it made me my workshop. Come on we'll get right to putting a lucrative plan motion or joy. You a nice hot bath to soften you'll cuticle before. I use your nails to make a proper mold and after you've soaked for a bit i'll wash you down the fucking drain because you're nothing but sludge course. He didn't say that he did tell her he can help her. Though on every time. I l like that i imagine other people in this building just thinking like what the fuck eighteen nineteen forty nine thirty nine year old. Hey does invite all to his workshop. does come alone to her. He tells her is in working on her fake nails idea and she's excited to come check out the progress as she enters the workshop. He handerson paper to look at a paper. He said that he could use to make the fake nails. Then while she's looking at the paper he obviously tells her a knock knock joke knock knock all if that's fine who they're drawn acid baths for you and i'm about to turn you into old lady sludge and i will dump into a giant metal drama and sell all your jewelry all right. I'll play long. John acid bath. You want to turn you or ladies larger Sorry what was the rest of it. Can i just say who and let you finish. The job is terribly confusing. Know all of you have to say the whole thing. It's no matter now though you've ruined eth you've ruined what i was going to be very fun moment for me. I'll never get it back. I'm sorry my dear. I in the beginning because i know this one. I've heard it. I've heard it before. I just can't remember all the right. You've never heard this. How unbelievable what are the odds. It's not a real joke. It's just some nonsense. Forget it just hold. Still i shoot you. John of course doesn't do that. Act bullshit but he does her shooter in the back of the head. She dies instantly then he goes through. His car gets glass and a penknife he starts. He uses the pen knife to cut her. Fills the glass with blood. Drink to down. Hayden takes valuable jewelry strips off for persian lamb. Coat submerges her corpse into a steel bathtub filled with acid. Hey then sells jewelry in the coats. But he doesn't make much of a prophet. The money covers his hotel bill and some expenses. But he's already looking for his next victim. He misjudge how valuable what she was wearing was. He didn't take time with murder he was rushed. Didn't figure out you know how to get her to sign all of her possessions over him or anything a bit sloppy unbeknownst to hey two days after all the disappearance her friend constance lane reporter is missing olives. Apparently quite popular at on court many wondered where she'd gone. Hey then approaches constant. Ask her if she knows anything about his whereabouts trying to make. It seem like he has no idea where she could be He says Do you know anything about missa. Mr on deaconess she. It'll do you know what she is and conferences response shocks replies. Don't you know what he is our sorry where she is. I understood from her that you wanted to take it to your factory so whoops awkward. You quickly tries to distract constant from this line of questioning by launch into a knock. Knock joke come on. Play along. Knock knock constants. Who's there someone who has killing his all. You'll remains quickly for you know too much. Let's an absolutely trade for knock. Knock job jonathan. They've heard it before god. Damnit how many knock knock joke tellers running around london these days. That of course never happened. What he did do was quickly. Try and recover hate telling constants that he had not met with all of the workshop because he wasn't ready to show her the invention she must have been mistaken. Talked about it. It was suspicious but it was the best you come up with on the fly the next day. Hey ask. Constants of anything has turned up. She says nothing has and that she plans on going to the police to make a report. Hey at this point Has to know he's going to be included in that report so seen an opportunity to prevent her from pointing the police and his direction. Hey volunteers to drive concepts to the police station. Help her make that report. He thinks if he's there he and constance together will now be the least likely suspects and this will backfire horribly at the police station. An officer named sergeant lambourn is immediately skeptical of. Hey she and her colleagues start looking into his background later that same day. Meanwhile rose henderson's brother causing problems for hey. A death in their family has occurred another death in after trying to inform rose and receiving no reply berlin insists. The police must locate his missing sister on february twenty. First police contact scotland yard as part of the investigation into all death and request information on. Hey hey meanwhile busy dumping olives remained into the same places the hendersons out in the yard as one does. He's also selling more belongings including undertaking a trip to nearby horsham where he has appraisals done of nicest jewelry. He signed a transaction for these Regardless appraisals as j mclean much surprise when he returns to the hotel the police are waiting for him when they questioned him he tells them the same story he told constance that he had an appointment with all of that. She missed it. The cops seemed satisfied for the time being or at least pretend to Realized after work a little harder to bust him. They return a few days later for another round of questioning during the second interrogation. Hey tells the same basic story but adds more new details. Which creates you know more john hey skeptics within law enforcement. A changing story never speaks innocence on february twenty. Six police show up john's workshop and smashed down his door inside. They find empty and half full cowboys. Which are ten gallon glass bottles with narrow necks use to contain sulfuric acid. They find rubber apron. A gas mask. If all of this is not incriminated enough they find thirty eight enfield revolver that appears to have been fired recently. Then in john's attache case they find a dry cleaning receipt for a black persian coat made of lambskin the very same coat they knew all of it owned thanks to report in the press about olives appearance. The owner of that jewelry store. John visited in horsham. Mr bill becomes suspicious of his client. J mclean and files a report with the police. Investigators take jewelry from the shop. Bring it to a relative of olives who identifies it as definitely being hers then. The joel jeweler's shop assistant identifies john. Hey is the man who had brought those jewels in the man who had signed. His name is jay. Mclean things not looking. Good for mr. Hey two days later. On february twenty eighth detective inspector albert web goes to find. Hey it also court. A detective web invites. Hey back to the police station to help them with their investigation once again. Hey denies any involvement with disappearance. But this time the police keep him in custody while they take a look at his hotel room and workshop. Three days later on march. First dr keith. Simpson gets on the case. Dr simpson is a pathologist with the home office. Which is the. Uk's lead government department for immigration and passports drug policy crime fire counterterrorism and police and he conducts a thorough investigation of hayes workshop. Dr simpson notices blood stains on the walls he was a sloppy boy he inspects dramas finds a hat. Pin at the bottom of one of them then wall inspecting the yard. He finds the gross liquid. He finds the dissolve remains of several meets acts in the sludge. He sees what he thinks. A human gallstone. This confirms the suspicion he had. The sludge might be partially dissolved in flesh. He has the sludge taken to a police lab to be analyzed in the sludge lab techs. Find the most damning and most disgusting evidence against john. Hey investigators find three gallstones twenty eight pounds of human fat eighteen pieces of human bone a decent portion of mrs henderson's foot a pair of upper and lower dentures. A lipstick container a red plastic bag handle and they also recovered two vertebral vertebral discs a handbag book as well as the hat pin from before so random to me. How the vertebral discs all of them but to resolved like. Why are those two discs. Still there i guess he must not have used enough. Acid also impressed that the lab was able to pull this kind of analysis off back in nineteen forty-nine the dentures are examined by all of dentist who determines that they did indeed belong to all of the bone fragments from a foot or put back together and they match one of rose henderson shoes perfectly most disgusting recreation of cinderella ever in hayes hotel room investigators find paperwork for property belonging to the mix swans and the hendersons all very incriminating police. Now of course assume that john hey has not just murdered olive but also others Detective inspector web tries to interrogate. Hey and hey response by immediately asking if anyone ever gets released from broadmoor a high security psychiatric hospital not exactly subtle here clearly scheming about some sort of insanity plea he needs to use it as comment will come back to haunt him immensely at his later. Murder trial are detective web. Says he can't speak to that. Hey replies that have hey told the detective the truth. You wouldn't believe him then. Hey does telling the truth. Confesses to killing olives and confesses to killing william mixed one Mixed williams parents and the hendersons six murders hey also confesses to three additional murders that the police don't know anything about was that young man named max i briefly mentioned earlier was the woman from hammersmith and the third was a young girl named mary from eastbourne. Seems odd right that john would be so forthcoming all these murders when he had previously put so much effort into getting away with everything. We'll check this out. The only reason. John tells the detective all this because he still thinks that the police don't have an actual body. He can't be charged. He actually still think to this point. He's going to walk out of the police station possibly despite overwhelming evidence present in his workshop the murder confessions. He's convinced investigators still can't legally tie him but the crimes. Yeah sure it might go to court. Maybe but then he'll be let off. Okay john. i guess you'll free to go official. I've been working scotland yard for thirty years. And you're the smartest criminal. I've come across ever. You did it old chap you found. A loophole begged the prime minister who pushed legislation to close this loophole but he assured me that no criminal could possibly ever be so sophisticated to figure out how to so thoroughly dispose of a body. We'll be watching. You see you again soon. I'm sure very welding inspector. But before i go care for little joke. Sure i'll tell you your game knock knock inspect out. Who's they're the smartest criminal. All of london. A man who will continue to kill and take and kale and take and get away with it. Time and time again things to magnificent laboratory my evil genius lehrer might. Hey i'm going to have to stop you right there. Why is that. I was just really getting going. I i really felt like. I was falling into a nice flow. There s sorry. It's just demonstrate. i've heard this before. Bloody hell how has everyone heard these absurd stream of conscious. Dry diatribes baffling. It's very frustrating. Bacteria the investigator made it clear to john. He can for sure go to jail for murder if he if the body is never found and he's like oh shit. I'm sort of known that before the murders Switches strategy back towards convincing authority. He's insane and therefore not criminally responsible for his misdeeds. John tells the detective. He has an insatiable desire to drink human blood when talking about the elderly swans. He says that the only reason he even killed mrs mix one was because her husband's body had provided enough blood to satisfy him shitty old man. Blood would have just been a little thicker. Had a little more veins. Would've to the lady was ridiculous as far as three unknown murders. Hey can't provide the same level of details. You can the other killings and his involvement. These murderers is never proven in something. They never happened. So why would he confess to murder. she didn't commit. Perhaps he thought that the more murders would make for a stronger insanity plea some investigators speculated that hey wanted to prove. He did not kill for personal financial. Gain that adding other made up. Murders would help him in that regard again. Maybe beefing up his insanity defense Hey continues to make long statements about his fondness for blood in each case. He says. I had my glass of blood after i killed them and the press has a field day with these type of quotes. No newspaper gives the story more sensational coverage than the london. Daily mirror shocking londoners. Who thought he'd already read about all the carnage. They could handle during world war two the next day on march second john. Hey charged with the murder of mrs durand deacon and then he is removed to louis prison and the court will soon add five additional murder charges on march third. London's daily mirror starts running a series of macabre stories about all of his murder the begin with the headline hunt for the vampire at. I don't mention hey by name. They wanna milk this out the next day march fourth daily mirror publishes this line to its fifteen million readers. The vampire killer will never strike again. You safely behind bars powerless to has victims to a hideous death stories emblazoned with the headline another one Vampire man held British legal system is appalled by irresponsible coverage so much so that the daily mirror is fine. Ten thousand pounds and its editor sylvester. Boom is given a three month jail term for contempt of court He's found contempt because he had previously been warned by scotland yard not to publish details of this case before trial and then ironically a is sent to the very same prison that held. Hey why don't. They shared a meal Besides hayes besides hayes parents the person who is most profoundly affected by the uncovering of hayes double life is barbara. Stevens is girlfriend who some sources now referred to as a fiance barbara visits him regularly in prison asked him questions about his crimes. Trying to figure out what motivated man she loved to kill. She wanted to know if he ever intended to kill her. He said he never once thought of it. He seems so genuine. Barbara wanted to believe him stayed with him Later after his killed she would say that she knew That had he not been arrested. There may have come a day when hay saw her as an inconvenience and that he would have gotten rid of her. On saturday march nineteenth. A handbag is found outside the crawley workshop that matches the handle pulled intact from the acid. Sludge it is the bag other saw all of randy and carrying on february eighteenth insider items identified as items belonging to alef more evidence against. Hey that's that's even necessary now on july. Eighteenth nineteen forty nine. Four thousand people crowd into the small town of louis hoping to get a seat at the court for hayes trial. It's big news. High-drama justice humphries presides over the case the prosecute The prosecution consists of eric. Newby gerald howard and the attorney. General sir hartley shawcross. That is a very british name. So hotly shawcross i will send this bloodthirsty madman to the gallows for the glory of the crown on hayes. Defense is maxwell or the team his defense team. Maxwell five g r f morris and david navy. Eric navy son. It's going to be awkward. Daddy please don't find john guilty if we're beat to the great detriment to my burgeoning legal career. He ends up paying for his attorneys in the most unusual way. He has no money to pay for his defense. So he makes deal with stafford somerfield. The news of the world will pay for his counsel in exchange for him providing them with exclusive rights to his life story as obsessed as we are true here in the states right now not sure that would play out well in the court of public opinion like the los angeles times or the chicago tribune. Or some other major publication paid for the defense of some ghoulish murderer in exchange for the rights to their story. Ted bundy is why am i doing british. Sorry we're american now. Ted bundy is being represented by an excellent defense team paid for by the tallahassee democrat throughout the trial hey comes off confident. Making light banter. Is the court moves through its proceedings. It's unclear if part of his attempt to seem insane or if he thought his insanity defense was so foolproof that he didn't need to bother being on his best behavior. If you do a google image search this guy in almost every picture related to his trial. He has his big shit eaten based on the photos alone. It seemed like he. He was loving this like he loved. The attention look could be now mum. Tell the plymouth brethren hayes trial does not take long he pleads not guilty to the murders of the prosecution calls thirty three witnesses with the intention of proving that the killings were premeditated and four financial gain. The prosecution takes the court on a time line of six different murders. Showing how hayes. Rational decisions are not the actions of someone with diminish diminished mental capacities in total four psychiatrists examined. Hey on behalf of the prosecution who set out to shoot down his planned. Insanity defense the doctors psychologists speak the defendant's claims of having a need to drink blood. Such a compulsion is true form they argue would be part of a sexual deviation that would mean got stimulation from violence drinking blood however these doctors and psychologists State that hey seems to have to have little interest in sex in general and suffers from no such disorder. They speculate he may have made up stories about blood. Drinking the psychologist agree that although hey might suffer. From some type of mental health issues he is not criminally insane. He'd been perfectly aware that murdering people is wrong but went through with the murders anyway because he wanted the money that came from their desks and he took meticulous steps to plan these killing so we could get away with them. Hayes defense counsel strategy folks is entirely unproven. That hey is in fact insane. Describe for the court how his mental illness would have affected his ability to understand morality or the lack of thereof of morality of his acts psychiatrists. They used just one doctor. Henry yellow lease comes up with different result and his colleagues who testified on behalf of the prosecution. Dr yellow lease believes it. Hey is mentally ill He thinks he is clinically paranoid. However not even. He would conclusively diagnosed with a mental illness that would prevent him from understanding the nature of actions thereby absolving him of criminal liability yellow interviews. Hey three times. he examines hayes. Two confessions thoroughly as well as looking over other documents related to the case t as it is obvious that hey at the very least has a paranoid constitution according to mental health descriptions for the nineteen forties when psychiatric medicine. So long way to go to get to its present form. It was thought that such a condition resulted partly from genetics partly from environment in particular early upbringing in other words both nature and nurture played a role and it was thought that having a paranoid constitution was a step towards a more serious mental illness which they called the paranoid insanity based in part on what he had said about his childhood and upbringing. Yoli's explained how his childhood warped his mind. He had been sheltered in a fanatical and paranoid religion. Raised by a mom gave a lot of to dreams as tools of divination gillies mentioned. Hey told How his parents did weird shit to him. Like make him think he'd been divinely. Guided by an interpretation of adversity old testament to drink his own urine and he claimed to a followed that instruction quite regularly saying he basically drank. Is this all the time kid. That's what god wanted. I don't remember p drinking from sunday school. maybe. I didn't go long enough This belief is not isolated. This case comes from proverbs. Proverbs five fifteen which says drink water from your own cistern and running water from your own well and this verse gets interpreted in lots of different ways. It seems based on a variety of christian scriptural interpretation websites that most pastors think the focus of this passage is on sexual purity and integrity in marriage. Don't stray from the path of chased virtue or flirt with the alluring lust of the roving eye or the beckoning tights of our fallen. Fleshy nature diverse about king solomon comparing monogamy to a well flow in water or instructions to drink on piss or that. That's what much smaller group of pastors seemed to think. Go forth and drinking piss. Vote is the purest payson. All of them land Yet more evidence that the plymouth brethren earned saying hey yalies believes has most likely developed a paranoid personality to escape his parents suffocating universe. Yoli's had also mentioned that the recurring dream hayes has been having You know since he was a teenager about the bloody christ saying all along. It was the question of blood that was troubling. Him then goes on to say that a person formula paranoid personality develops a certain amount of secrecy which hey surely did they develop a private mystic life which they treasure because it is a part from the cruel outside world the result was that hey had an acute sense of omnipotence and believed he was above the law or in yellow lease words that he suffered from the most rare and terrible type of paranoid personalities. The one of the egocentric paranoia sometimes referred to as ambitious or mystical paranoia. And that all although hey was aware that killing people was against the law. He thought he was fulfilling part of his destiny. I think said the doctor that the absolute callous cheerful bland and the almost friendly indifference of the accused of the crimes which he freely admits having committed is unique in my experience. That being said even yoli's didn't think that hey was always telling the truth. He also believed hey suffered from You know basically being like a pathological liar that he may have made up the drapes any thought that while he had tasted blood doubtful. He drank claimed to do so. This half diagnosis is apparently constitution. There was the best defense team came up with as far as an insanity defense and it wasn't good the only doctor they could find who thought hey was a little bit insane. Still didn't think he was insane enough to avoid legal punishment he was a liar. He was a manipulator manipulator shady childhood but he was not out of his mind. And hey it really doesn't seem like he was crazy just very manipulative With none of the lawyers or investigators on the prosecution or the defense or any of the doctors knew was that this would come after the trial. Hey had years earlier. Developed a friendship with an employee of sussex psychiatric hospital and is shown a great deal of interest in mental illness. He learned all about behavioral patterns traits and habits of various disorders This is a guy who posed as a lawyer as an engineer and now because of what he learned he was posing someone suffering from mental illness. Put some serious effort to make people think he was crazy Before the trial he drank his own urine and made sure guards were watching him at his dedication to an insanity but complete a. for effort but the efforts you know weren't enough because the efforts couldn't rewrite that huge initial mistake. He made when it came to his insanity defense when immediately after he been apprehended he asked the detective about broadmoor when asked if anyone ever got released from a high security psychiatric hospital and the prosecution presented that information to the court and if fucked him. The jury was asked to decide whether mere paranoia could be considered a mental disease or defect. It took them only fifteen minutes to come to a conclusion. No hey knew what he was doing. He was guilty of murder. The judge asked hey then if he had anything to save for himself haycock his head and said nothing at all. Gigs up The judge sentenced him to be hanged until dead at the ominous and infamous wandsworth prison. Let's talk about this place. Just a moment. Between the years of eighteen seventy eight and nineteen sixty one wandsworth. Prison was the site of one hundred and thirty five. London executions opened in eighteen fifty one located in the wadsworth area of london. The prison is still around. Has the capacity to hold one thousand eight hundred seventy seven inmates making it one of the largest prisons in the uk. one famous ex inmate is charles bronson Charles bronson not the actor born michael gordon. Peterson is a man still in prison. In the uk ta sixty seven and he's been referred to by british tabloids as the most violent prisoner in britain and britain's most notorious prisoner. Tom hardy portrayed him in the two thousand eight film bronson great movie and we may have to suck bronson someday very interesting character anyway. Wandsworth prison built eighteen. Forty nine as he surrey house of correction and was intended for those serving shorter senses. Initially and then it became you know basically the prison for the worst prisoners. It was designed by D r hill birmingham to hold a thousand prisoners and the first male prisoners were mid eighteen. Fifty one first female prisoners a year later. When one's worth prison took over executions they had to build an execution chamber and that would become known as the cold meat shed and that is a scary ass. Name warning code me. She d boy no side to knoxville pizza. Code me chid. This original chamber gals consisted of beams were positioned eleven feet above trapdoors beneath the trapdoors was a pit twelve feet deep line with bricks and into this pit haywood drop in the days leading up to his execution. Hey gave his life story to the newspaper that it paid for trial. So i guess he followed through on that deal He also wrote letters to his girlfriend. Barbara and to his parents who never did see him before he died not surprised. Hey told barbara. He believed in reincarnation and that he would come back later to complete his mission as creepy and weird not sure what he thought he. His mission was to kill more people for money. Drink more blood. Drink more piss. I don't know hayes last few days. Were spent making sure he wouldn't soon be forgotten. Had his barbara come to the prison to cut his hair just a little bit. Before his execution sharp he welcomed a representative of madame. Toussaud's or madame toussaud's the famous wax museum in london into his cell on the afternoon before his execution they took a three hours making a life mask for the wax model. They would put up the day after his death. A model even wearing clothes specially chosen and donated by himself meticulous in his eye for detail to the end. He asked the prison governor if he might meet the hangman the check and make sure that he got his weight right explained that his sprightly walk suggested a man of less weight than he was then. That should be taken into account when calculating the drop on the gallows this fucking guy just trying to control the people around him right up until the end of the governor assured him that mr perry point a very experienced executioner would provision for this without having to meet him Hey put more preparation to his own execution than he did into his murders on august tenth forty-nine hey is hanged at one's worth prison by chief executioner albert pierrepoint pierpoint. The executioner got the weight right after all. John dropped hard enough on the gallows to die shitting himself. Same steady hey did accomplish his goal of not being soon forgotten. Obviously i'm talking about him. You're listening and also if you live in london or you find yourself in london and wanna take a further. Look into the deeds of the acid bath murderer. There's a special john. Hey exhibition at the museum of london. Where a collection of grizzly relics are open to public view on loan. From new scotland yard's infamous black museum. The gloves and apron. Hey used to protect himself from burns from the acid or on show along with mrs durand deacons gallstones so weird and dentures also weird and the revolver and a book of a knock knock jokes wrote. He never did that. Let's hop on out of this blood-soaked time suck timeline. Good job shoulder. you've made it back. Well now you know. The story of the acid bath murderer aka john. George hey you committed between six and nine murders all them for profit. Many of them are friends people. He met with for for months and months as he planned the murders after killing with a blunt. Object or a gun you know. He said he was littered throats and drink their blood and then he tossed their bodies into a vat of acid. He learned about sulfuric acid imprisoned during one of the one of the many jail terms he for running fraudulent businesses. He claimed to have been fucked up by a strict religious champion clinton terrifying nightmares. Were result of that of that upbringing. And that they drove him to insanity and bloodlust childhood. You know it does sound horrifying religious parents wall around the house. No one talked to accept as crazy as parents in some pets. No-one her dad constantly saying that he had the mark of the is for head. If john wasn't cal careful he'd get it too but did that. Upbringing pushed john. Hey towards murder. Some of the doctors you know did believe he Had you know likely develop some type of paranoid personality to develop or to escape. Skews me as parents suffocating. Universe universe in order to relieve himself emotional pain but also a clear to all the doctors who examined him and to the judge and to the world at large the john hay had planned his murders meticulously and methodically wasn't saying he was not criminally insane. He knew what he was doing. Once he left his parents suffocating church turned his back on his religion. He seemed to turn his back on morality in general. It got the crazy ideas head that he couldn't be charged for murder. If there was no body thousand come up with a perfect way to murder and never get cop but he didn't in one last strange twist to the story. Justice humphries the judge who presided over. His trial took up residence in the very same hotel that hey olive durand. Deacon had lived in years earlier. What a weird story now. Let's look at some of the highlights and learn something new. Knock knock. who's there. Today's top five takeaways. I take away number one john. Hey kill between six. And nine people between nineteen forty four and nineteen forty-nine beginning with william swan his friend and former employer and then maybe drink his blood and they certainly dumped his body in a vast about innovative acid and after the acids thing he dumped his human sludge down the drain and if you would have dumped all nine of his earth six to nine of his victims down the drain. He likely have kept killing for much longer than he did number two john. Hey believed he discovered the perfect murder for money. Setup there was nobody. There was no crime. A dumb misinterpretation of the latin legal expression corpus delicti which actually refers to the body of crime. There's no punishment if there is no crime but you can prove a murder occurred without a body number three john. Hey blamed his religious upbringing for messing him up to the point of murder the plymouth brethren and john's parents did ban interactions with anyone outside the church. They did build a wall outside their house. They did tell john. God knew about all. His sinful behaviors was ready to punish him at any moment. I don't think they created a murderer necessarily but the they weren't good parents. Maybe maybe we shouldn't tell kids shit like that number. Four perhaps one of the saddest casualties and all of this is a young hayes. Young girlfriend barbara stevens. She stuck by him for five years fully intending to eventually marry this guy like many other serial killers hey managed to compartmentalize his life to such an extent that she had no idea she was with a murderer. This double life was probably a thrilling for but it ended up being so sad for barbara. When she realized that basically their entire relationship was ally. She admitted later in life that had she ever found out he was killing people. He probably would have just killed her to number five something. New john was not the only infamous englishman to rebel strongly against strict teachings of the plymouth brethren alister crowley the black magician known as the great beasts subject of an episode of time suck was brought up by wealthy parents who belong to the same sect and similar to john. Hey he spent his adult life deliberately breaking social rules seeking hedonistic pleasures Strongly forbidden by his former faith. Crowley just focus more on literally fucking people than killing and fucking people time takeaway knock knock. Who's there john. Hey john hey who john. Hey the acid bath murderer. And he has been sucked. Hope found. That story is interesting as i did. I doubt you enjoy the knocked on. Gag as much as i did. I don't know working on Thank you to the bad magic productions team for all the help make time suck queen anne mcqueen bad magic i cannot fucking speak today. So annoying like it feels like every four or five episodes. It's happened i get my allergies are like no. 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Space is playing time so trivia game on the time gap. Excuse me bailey. Ninety-six curly in the lead with six thousand. One hundred twenty points. Looks like she may win. Round four new round round five starts the day this episode drops at three. Pm pacific time next week on time. Suck in time for veterans day. Very different kind of topic traveling back. In time to investigate some of the best code breaking nazi slain math nerds of world war two. it's a historical sucks centered around ground. Baking groundbreaking i swear to god. I can't fuck health my sinuses like now. Man fuck all your words Senator on a ground breaking nazi device called the 'nigma machine and the efforts that went into keeping it from helping the nazis take over the world. The machines highly advanced codes baffled. A linguistics based codebreakers of the era and the code generator were deemed unbreakable by all the experts. Consider the nazis aggressive intention. 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My mom's always been kind of almost always too trusting of others intentions thankfully. That's all my sister needed to get out. Finally amway nearly tore apart the family of my dear friend a couple years ago but it fizzled out almost entirely because my friend's little sister and brother-in-law couldn't pay their bills. My friend's little sister is kind but dogmatic naive and any sales person can smell it a mile away in a hilarious twist. Her sister went overboard the beginning with networking on facebook which included sending a private message to my mother-in-law because they had one mutual friend. My friend Talk about barking up. The wrong tree doesn't shock me a bit to hear that. Colt de programmers are seen more. Mlm victims at the risk of virtue. Signaling i find. Mlm's especially disgusting during this dumpster. Fire of two thousand twenty. Keep forgetting to thank who responded to one of my very first messages when i was new to the podcast. Panicking about the state of the world. Responded very kindly told me to have a good evening and stay calm and honestly the longer. Listen the calmer i feel. That's very nice. I appreciate anytime you're team respond to my rambles. Especially appreciate that response. Because i was especially obnoxious now. One keep on sucking hope ever. Your family makes a speedy recovery katie. Well thank you katie We're doing. Well yes i said earlier. I'm hundred percent back. I think mostly hundred percent back. Because i'm genetically superior to reverend dr joe paisley jk. I always got lucky. Truly lindsay is eighty percent back which is surprising because she's polish. I didn't even think she could get human disease No but she's She's still worn out. She still has a brain fog But that it's hard to say what's disease. What's being post you know. The kids are good. Kate and logan her on demand We do feel very fortunate to have escaped. Have been much much worse so anyone affected more by cova than us. Yeah my heart. Goes out to you. And i think you're right. Twenty twenty isn't especially should he time for. Mlm's to prey on people in his currently economically fragile landscape. So thank you for your story Always good to hear how these subjects effect time. suckers lives. Glad you're calm. Hope you continue to be hillis. Athena now spaces are chase. Top-shelf sack has another amway experienced. Share he writes my experience with amway. I learned a lesson a few years ago. Don't accept friend requests from strangers on the internet or they will try to get you into their mlm slash colt to pres- i usually will accept strangers if we have at least a few mutual friends or school slash workplace stuff in common with gabe. I had no idea who he was but he lived a few hours away by all accounts appeared not to be a fake slash body count on facebook a few months pass and this guy calls me via facebook talking about a business opportunity. Jesus had just had my first space. Newt i say okay fine. Tell me more. He gives me some details. Believe out the amway name. Although i didn't know anything about them at the time and the actual business model a few days later he calls again asked. If i'd like to attend a business meeting into the demo area still not knowing important details about the company. I say sure i find out you're supposed to pay to get into the conference. But gabe nice guy has paid fee and he had a great amway energy drink from drink. Holy shit This was a fairly small conference room with the people put on. the show. Wanted to feel like you were attending a rock show after the intro. The mid level colt boss comes out and starts talking about ninety percent of the staff. You mentioned in the next next suck pertaining to. Mlm's we're going to make so much money you know. We had to put our heart and soul into our businesses The funny thing is mentioned. The amway name mentioned people will tell you. It's a scam. But i'm here to tell you they just don't want you to succeed. You need to stay away from people like that people who wanna hold you back limit your potential etc etc. Basically all the cults shit. The says. Don't listen to the people that love you and care about you. At one point. I get called on a raise my hand when they asked Who was a first timer. And i'm asked what my financial dream is a fairly person. So i say something like i just wanna make sure my kids always have everything they need and some of the things that they want and the guy looked me dead in the eye and says you're dreaming too small son. You can get that from a nine to five. You are willing to fight tooth and nail to reach the sky. Then you probably won't make it in this business. He was right after i got home. I do my research. I knew was not for me. It made me sick after the research how they build people up and convince them to dump every penny into their business and then when nothing pans out they blame them for not doing enough not trying hard enough etc to meet their goal. One guy. I read about in greece. I think blue his savings and what his parents and siblings stop buying Slash supporting him because he He just throw it away and his amway business. He destroyed his grandma's life savings as well. I doubt this will make it to the air but just wanted to share my personal experience with mlm slash amway because they are one of the most vile and disgusting practices. You've mentioned on time. Suck and i say that after listening to cheekily in the toy box killer sucks we think about how many people have lost everything to these scumbags. How many lives. They've destroyed selling lies. It is gut wrenching anyways. I love all the time. Suck stands for and i hope that we can grow our cult of critical thinking large enough to wipe these shitty businesses out. Nal jim rod. Thank you spaces or chase fucking love chase. He's doing a very sweet sweet man. Thank you for sharing that story with an awesome dad by the way too. Yeah i didn't really touch on. How many people sometimes wipe out their life savings by put money into like marketing creating websites cetera for eminem's like amway because you can think like what's the harm you know people to their website. Yeah but they're gonna encourage you to set up your website. They're going to spend money and promotional materials etc etc and it can be devastating Hope you're non amway work. Life is working out great. I love the the you put an emphasis in this measure. Critical thinking We definitely trying to get out on the show. You know hopefully weed out some bullshit artists these fucking clowns fuck that glengarry glen ross character you met at that conference and keep on sucking now for a non amway message from speak good or sucker stephen roggensack who writes you have to be fucking with us. That's a great subject line. Dan oh king of the sake please. Pardon my transjet transgression. But you have to be fucking kidding or fucking with us. you know. it's not my old. It's misled if you are fucking with this bravo if you are not however how how the fucking fuck is nobody ever corrected. That love you man. Glad to hear you beat the covid. Hope everyone on your end gets through it. Asep well This is awkward. Stephen but i can only say that. I wish i was joking. I always thought that word was modeled. I thought i thought misled was mayes. Lt until literally until you send that message. So i'm gonna show myself out in all seriousness. Thank you for sending that message. So i don't continue to bring shame upon myself and my family. I'm all bring shame in other ways Next up marvelous. Meet sack generally monday. I haven't seen You're you're in the message did say janati I never seen that. I hope that's not jennifer in a in a typo. I liked any if any anyway jen rights or jenny. Hey there i was listening to the hollow earth theory episode and i thought you might get a laugh out of this story. You mentioned the unfortunate name of richard johnson. Aka dick johnson. Well my ex's dad. And grandad were both named richard johnson and his granddad in fact did go by dick. Dick johnson ahead of feeling. My relationship with my ex wasn't last upon realizing that if we indeed had a baby like we talked about early in the relationship and name that baby after our grandad's that poor son of a gun would be named wait for it. Harry dick johnson. She's christ four. We didn't wind up having any kids before splitting up. Love the show. Thanks for everything you do. Oh my god so your grandpa's name is harry. His grandpa name is dick and you almost went through having a baby who could have been named harry. Dick johnson selfishly. I wish you would've would have ended up on every shitty name list on the web. That made me laugh. So hard praised bojangles. Okay another amway message. Now related to the nexium colts saw coming in from super sucker kent hinman. Ken writes haycock soccer bach. And i mean cocker. Soccer is a term of endearment none other patron. I just wanted to let you know why. The jokes about amway don't land in grand rapids. Gr has basically funded by j financial and rich devos. these two men amway founders have poured millions into the area funding construction of hospitals research centres. Rina's bringing in minor league hockey and major concerts theaters for arts and more. There's a lot of love for those families in the area and we'll all of michigan was struggling during the great recession grand rapids. Did okay not amazing compared to the rest of the state the best just wanting to give you some context as to why the audience might not respond. I doubt they're all amway distributors but maybe also besides the products amway makes themselves. And i didn't know this. They also happen to make swamp products employees ton of manufacturing jobs as well sorry for the perfect length. Email can't Thank you get that that makes sense. I mean i will say when i first went to grand rapids. I was like holy shit. This place on fire like just places kicking off like so many nice new buildings and then shortly after i went there not long after like the two thousand eight recession. I had some shows at colleges in place. Like flint's other places that were not doing nearly as well. You know like places like around detroit. And i and i was like why is grand rapids kicking ass in the midst of all these places that are not kicking ass and this makes makes a lot of sense The good god amway maker of quality cookware featuring multi ply construction without layers of stainless steel and a carbon steel aluminum core for even distribution. Sometimes take if sometimes giveth amway. I never get tired of that now. For a covert update from brainy sucker. Amy amy rights. Hello master sucker. Spaces are amy here. I work in the healthcare industry. Part of my job is to keep tabs on the latest research on covert. I'm just reading into let you guys know that the blood clot issue with covert is actually true. Kind of it's not a blood clot. Disease per se wall was initially labeled a respiratory disease. Yeah back when i did. The initial episode We now know that cova can affect numerous other body systems such as the neurological gastrointestinal and cardiovascular systems probably the most prevalent non respiratory symptoms that people experience affects the cardiovascular system irregular heart rates. Blood clots yikes Myo myocarditis monica. Morrow okay or ok. Jesus christ myocardial cardis. Okay i need a degree for that one condition that disrupts out the heart pumps blood have an and that was with. I know you put your pronunciation guide in there but still mike. What fucking what is that word in a practice. Run for that one Anyways condition how the heart pumps blood have been observed significant number of patients. Some of these heart conditions can last after the person has recovered. I've listened to my sources below as we say in the science biz citations or it didn't happen. I love that destroy guys. Glad to hear you. Joe or doing better he'll nimrod and of course keep ensembles. Thank you for sending in that message. Amy so curious. We'll we're going to know about this strange virus like five ten years now. The lingering symptoms are so unsettling it seems so different from the normal flu. Such an odd pathogen. Can we for you healthcare professionals to figure all this shit out and kick the shit out of it hail nimrod and now last message from creative sucker josh full and who writes. Hey man you're kkk suck and the question of what kind of fucking psychopath calls himself a wizard. If they can't cast any spells sparked me making a film that has won a comedy award in played a bunch of festivals. Thought you space might enjoy it. and then. There's the link josh josh congrats. I watched to wizards one staff. Great title and so good so clever so funny say very poignant and touching moments. You accomplished a lot a very small amount of time. There's a link in the show notes if any you listeners. Want to listen to this now. You can download the time. 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Ep 37: Tim Tebow

Off The Meatrack Chainz New York Podcast

1:16:46 hr | 3 months ago

Ep 37: Tim Tebow

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Don't forget to share the show with your friends with your stream plants which i will go over at the show so here we go Also if you like to be a guest whether you are a rapper singer dj Music producer video director radio personality talk as host. Let myself A black owned translator. That has a business. And if you have you need advice on anything from a chain letter that you will like to have read on air all you gotta do is go here of the meat rat change. Ny podcast edgy dot com. That's often meet rat chains and why podcast at gmo dot com now. I'm actually gonna be the one home. The fort unfortunately half macos night here. So so i'm just gonna be person to hold it down so so here we go Let's go to a first segment which is called a first segment of today is chatting old ejaz. Basically in order jazz is basically about the topics that catches a interest. Each week that we cover and and also let's give runner for us for a milestone of thirty seven episodes being in the books of course. Of course i like to do this jazz and stuff. So just bear with me here. First topic of the day has to do with a woman in jacksonville. A women in jacksonville decides to do something very stupid. Which i'm glad a court this on the breakfast club's donkey go today. Regarding this woman who decides to rob a bank. And i see movies when it goes to people. Robbing banks and they usually have getaway cars but in this story about talk about as to do woman who didn't have a car but the size to but decides to do it with a wheelchair. A wheelchair at all beings is not considered a getaway vehicle as not a getaway car. That is the slowest motorist electric wheelchair that she could actually think of. Let's go to the story. Showery all right. So according to msn dot com article goes like this. When you think when you think of getaway vehicle action packed heist in fast cars. Likely come to mind. But a jacksonville woman had a different idea entirely. Recently after police say she robbed a regions bank downtown and fled in electric wheelchair. According to the jacksonville sheriff's office the woman at the center of the headline grabbing crime is yada gordon. In a newly obtained report tuesday. Police say gordon thirty eight thirty nine as regions bank on west bay street and ask a tailored to assist her in adding overdraft protection to her account. After the teller completed requests gordon den asked to withdraw money to which she was told the transaction could not be completed. That is when officers. Say gordon because agitated screening profanity's at tesla and demanding money. The taylor provided one hundred dollars to the suspect who then fled from the building in her wheelchair after receiving buying if mation for regions bank offices located gordon Three hundred block of first street west wearing the same clothing and using the same wheelchair as in the robbery. In addition to the stolen cash a crack pipe was also found on ongoing at the time of her arrest. According to a report. Gordon is charged with strong arm robbery and use possession with intent to use drug paraphernalia. Yes shorts on at the incident. A patrol car located the suspect Eastward east first street and north liberty street where she was taken into custody without incident early morning around eleven. The am jacksonville. Sheriff's office responded to a bank robbery on bay street and lower street. Officers are looking for an adult female. Thirty nine years of age with short blond hair Seo said she came into the bank to talk about an account. She has an while she was there became upset in threatened the taylor she uses an alleged wheelchair. Which is the dumbest thing i've ever heard how. Oh me oh my goodness to get around. And was last seen wearing a silver and black faced. Mas- of man sees has a red blanket Around her legs and read a red purse at this time. The woman does not appear to have a weapon in north on lower street. She got away with cash and no one was hurt. Okay my thoughts on this. This is like the dumbest dumbest stupidest thing that ever heard life. So you mean it sell me. You can't find a getaway car. Is there you decide to use liking afflicting electric wheelchair which is not fasted car by the way. That's crazy to me crazy to meet man. Sorry but this is the dumbest story that every heard life now i'm watch a lot of bank heist movies and stuff like you have bank heist. Movies like takers. The town you don't see him using a wheelchair in the movie because that's not fast enough. Not if you're gonna do something do something like that what it is for role moving stuff like that we show you have a getaway car and i'm going. I'm gonna wrap this topic up with a different topic so let's go to the next one. Let's go to the next one So has been a discrimination against vaccinated people at camp which which. I can't really understand why. So this is just Oh my gosh. why why man. Why the us discrimination against people who are vaccinated was wrong with acclimated people at all things. And i'm just gonna say this is like another. Let me just read the article here. So according to my win tears dot com near governor. Andrew cuomo has proposed legislation aimed at stopping discrimination against those vaccinated against covid nineteen any southern quote. We can't be in a situation where we were full. Throated encouraging people to get a vaccine and then have people saying if you get the vaccine. You can't participate in this activity. The governor Reference a report in the jewish telegraphic agency and other media outlets of the sullivan county. Some can't for authors. Jewish boys can't hikone who said they would not accept any campers or staff who had been vaccinated for covid nineteen dot the fallacy. Mass may be seasonal after the pandemic. I understand the anti vaccine argument. He said quote in my opinion. There's no sars to it. there's no science to it. You can have it theory. You can have a belief but you can't use that to make public policy without science. And without data the governor did not lay out any time line four when legislation could be presented to state legislatures during the covid nineteen pandemic. The governor supported legislation. That prevented discrimination against those who wore amass. New york's mask mandate has been in place since april seat. Twenty twenty discrimination related to the corona virus under the new york state human rights law and goes like this public places such as hotels restaurants transportation services and retail stores cannot deny you entry or access goes excuse me access to goods or services based on a perception that your national origin race or disability indicates possible exposure to the corona for hours. Your employer cannot fire you send you home or tell you not to come home to come to work. Because they think you may have been exposed to the coronavirus. Based solely on your race national origin or disability it is an unlawful discriminatory practice to terminate an employee or prevent them from working based on speculation that the employees raised national or disability indicate possible exposure to the virus. If your employer terminates you send you home. Based on what is later. Found to be a discrimi- discriminatory policy your employer could be full year. Miss way if you are wearing a mask as a precaution. You are still protected against discrimination. The h. r. l. prohibits discrimination based on a perceived connection between race national origin or disability. Impossible exposure to the coronavirus. Where face masks does not change this if you have been harassed or threatened because someone thinks you have the coronavirus cohen. Niwa one income contact law enforcement to report the incident immediately threats and harassment based on race. National origin may be considered hate crimes. You may bring this to the attention of the near state. Hate crimes taskforce by calling one eight eight eight three nine two three six four. That's one eight three nine two three six four four. The new york state division of human rights says dole's who feel if as if they've been discriminated against due to covid nineteen can contact human rights law at one. Eight eight eight Excuse me. I just read that on monday. The governor also reported that. The new york's overnight seen positivity rate is one point forty three percent in debt. Sixteen million eight hundred twenty six thousand four hundred seventy nine total doses of the cobra. Nineteen vaccine have been administered statewide. The governor also announced that all sunni cuning stirrings will need to be vaccinated to attend in person. Classes is for Okay Am a little torn. I am a on about this. Actually i mean at first. I thought this was supposed to be a personal choice for people to get vaccinated but to actually implicate that into schools by colleges in high schools. And stuff i mean. I don't know if that's going to really solve anything. But i highly doubt that that's going to really solve anything but it's gonna make people feel way. You know what i'm saying. And i'm just going to do this. I mean your attention are in the right place at the same token you gotta understand people's people's on personal decisions in personal choices and when I do Ah do like the idea. The he wants to put something into place to stop the discrimination. As far as people who give actioning which is gone too far which. I can attest to that but the same token like i said. I don't people feel way but saint tom. You know you can't please everybody And basically that's just my take on it though mean if you wanna if you wanna give vaccinated extra choice if you don't you don't national on you. So let's move onto the next topic out according to news break dot com This is basically talking about the high accident rates to to based we decrease speed reduction As you could see ya Some accidents related to cars him predestines. So let's reduce so corner to news break new york mayor bill de blasio announced recently Six queen's road with high crash rates will have their speed limits reduced in an attempt to improve the safety the streets which totalled tony five point. Seven miles will each have their speed limits reduced by five miles per hour. The speed reduction coincides with a week long new york police department traffic enforcement. Crackdown from may ten. To may sixteenth deny the nypd will deploy additional traffic patrol units with a focus on areas with a high rate of pedestrian any cyclist injuries telling drivers to slow down and working closely with the nypd. To hold dangerous. Drivers accountable will save lives and make our city safer said the blasi impress released roads that will be subject to the speed limit. Reduction include woodhaven boulevard franck to rockaway boulevard thirty miles per hour to twenty five miles per hour cross bay boulevard from rockaway believe to the cross bay north boulevard bridge thirty to forty miles per hour to twenty five to thirty five miles per hour van. We service road east to west from a hundred thirty fifth avenue to queens boulevard thirty miles per hour to twenty five miles per hour a story boulevard from one hundred eleven street to eighth street thirty miles per hour to twenty five miles per hour. South can do it. Avenue from Avenue tucson rice highway thirty five miles per hour to thirty miles per hour. North can do it avenue avenue to rice highway thirty five miles per hour to thirty miles per hour. All right Okay take on this half mall take on this has to do with okay now. I do get the idea that you wanna that you want to reduce speeds of of cars but you have kale drivers who don't really care about pedestrians crossing the street like i seen. I seen this a couple of times when i'm crossing the street. Ocuntry country road to get the antoni four. You have crazy. Drivers run the red life when no single care in the world. And you know. That's why i take my child to cross the street because i don't want to be the person to get now as far as queens. I find that. I find it very interesting. That kunis has the highest rate of late Accidents related to rene in cars where people on bikes. What is people on. You know the street it's pretty. It's pretty clear that some action has to be taken I i believe that this has to happen. And speaking of what's going to happen Let's go to. Our next. Topic has to do with kobe bryant so kobe bryant was officially inducted to The hall the hold on a second guys so kobe. Bryant was officially inducted to the nasty nas smith memorial hall of fame as part of the class of tony. Tony assiting night blah blah blah so Basically bryant's wife vanessa bryant. I wish my husband was here to accept this incredible award. Bryant's wife vanessa. Brian said at the ceremony as she was joined onstage by basketball legend michael jordan. He angie desert to be here to witness this. Judy would be so proud to watch her. Daddy get Enshrined into the basketball hall of fame. Legend was post humorously elected into hall last april in his final year of eligibility. Just months. after. Brian is thirteen year old daughter. Gianna and seven other people were killed in the helicopter cracks. There will never be anyone like hobie. Vanessa o'brien said toby was warns was one of the car he was special. He was humble off the court the bigger than life she concluded. Congratulations baby all your hard work. And sacrifices paid off you. Did you are in the hall of fame that your true champ. You're not just an mp mvp your in all time great. I'm so proud of you. I love you forever in always Among the nine in the saturday former minnesota symbol lose and boston. Celtics forward kevin garnett and san antonio spurs forward. Tim ducking who reminisce on playing against his hall of fame. Classmates garnett and brian You're you're at your best. When you face the best dunkin said i want to say thank you to the late. Great koby bryant to keiji. You guys demanded the best adamy and brought the best out of me. Thank you guys. So w as any other fever legend to make a catching was also dot. This saturday. Basketball shows me catching said enoch Lanky introverted tomboy born with a hearing disability a speech impediment and a will to overcome obstacles dream big to change the world. We all have dreams and goals catching at it and whether you are young born with a disability or have been told the things you can't accomplish tonight. I should say worse that my parents said with me with its list. If anyone can do it you can't shoot for the stars work hard and cast your dream among the others inducted. Were coats kim mulkey barbara stevens eddie. Sudden and rudy. Tom john Switch basketball executive. Patrick bowman was post humorously indicted by the international committee. One of the industry's Hardest hit by the covert nineteen. Pandemic was the service industry once All right across the country good samaritan who have been stepping up as supporting their local restaurants in any way they can sign about the cars. Folks i can't do nothing about that Here are some here are a few stories of patriots that are making a difference in their communities. One tip at a time Okay so that's pretty much That's pretty much on. Let me see wait is more. Yeah is this is about it. Lemme go to So this is just about it So the last topic has to do with Has to do with Ten tibo Now according to to the bleacher report on hold at three now according to the bleacher report signed a team tibo signed a one year One hundred twenty thousand thousand dollar contract with the jacksonville. Jaguars on friday per n rappaport. Nfl network per rappaport. There is no guarantee money in tables deal which also includes an injury split the former. Nfl quarterback who has not played in a regular season since twenty twelve will be attempted to make the team as a tight end on. Tibo may be a veteran minimum contract but the quarterback has made well over ten million from his professional sports contract not including any other career earnings for endorsements is time as espn college. Football announces an analyst. Excuse me in any other opportunities tibo cash in with the denver broncos who's led the two thousand heisman trophy winner end to taunt nc double champion twenty fifth overall in the twenty ten nfl draft Espn part espn. He will inc a five year. Eleven point twenty five million contract. Eight point seven million dollars guaranteed at the time. The contrary had a max value of thirty three million with bonuses and or sensitives although that figure was never realized tibo only played in denver for two years before the broncos traded him to the new york jets gangrene reported agreed to pay will a two point fifty three million salary events as part of the parameters of trade per. Espn's adam sceptre. The jets released table. After the season he learned on new england patriots. Anfield if you're eagles practice squad in twenty thirteen and twenty fifteen respectfully but did not make the final roster T soon tried his hand at professional baseball plane. In new york. Mets minor league system from twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen. The mets gave him a one. Hundred thousand One hundred million will wait hundred thousand signing bonus. When he landed with the teen now tiba will be looking to make an improbable. Nfo combat switching positions non us at the last step in foot on the field. The thirty four year old is reuniting with ex floor. The current jags head coach urban mayor. Okay right might say on this thing. Hol that thought limit. Let me do this. Okay know what everybody's thinking. So tim teague will when you contract while khan academy doesn't get doesn't get get it. But here's the thing about that radioman farm years right. It's been a long overdue right now. So it kinda is kinda kinda kinda come too late to wait to. It's too late anyway. yes he did. Take a stand for police brutality. That we we know that the day he had people are why jazy the others who helped try to help get back in the nfl I remember an interview as door did years ago when he was on a show with on undisputed with skip and shannon who basically originally talked about how how He basically said that That he couldn't do both. He couldn't do both as far as being an activist praying football by well not too many people really think at this very kindly but you know it seems like certain athletes are able to do both. I mean it really see why not. But what shannon was talking about was the was the girl offering That called the the football team is asian slave. His now now is it is it. Relief is really far of a stretch. Yes it is a far stretch now now even if even if carbon captaining decides to play again he's not going to be saying player as he was years ago we played And i say this because of the fact pet you know when athletes athletes Go through changes as far as a not just age but in their body goes through changes. I mean you're going to have going to have injuries and you're going to have all this other stuff that's going to happen. I mean is it is cooled to say that he has his own is a his. His is his his way to to be creative. Yeah i wouldn't mind him being creative on side especially if you making a documentary about yourself In terms of your story you been through so so depending on which dream platform is going to be. I'm much looking forward into actually checking in checking out so so we'll see what happens. This is a long wait and see So they see. Let me see if i could cover this one. More story Almost story. I wanna do story. I wanna do is regarding a water main break in brooklyn so so let's see let's see So intriguing news. Of course there has been a water main break saw collapses in brooklyn Near city workers responded to award main break in brooklyn on wednesday morning which is today part. Walk on east side of four favor. New near saint marks place on barnhill collapsed video from sky. Fox shows gushing brown water flooding apart of a roadway which was. Shut down in a bar pizzeria. A dry cleaner inconven- store authorities evacuated several buildings on block because of flood basements in a power outage the f. d. n. y. Said the utility companies have been notified. The part the department said a crew from the department of environmental protection which manages the city's water supply was on the scene to investigate the break in. Stop the water flow Wow so this is crazy. This is very very crazy in no never As me living in new york. I have even heard of of a water. Main break aim wanted five boroughs until now not my take on. This was my take on this. You ask. I would like to actually say that you know. Hopefully they'll be able to do something about this So there's All right so. I actually let me see so drill punch Seventy two inch water. Main in brooklyn course for industries in disrupting stories. May rupture around new sent water gushing all the full Warren street in the bar hill section crews worked for hours to try to stop it even trying to In a minute even trying to goodness gracious even trying to Get into a permanent close To get source underneath. Five addresses are affected. The buildings were evacuated a few business owners. Day are dealing flooded basements with about two to four inches of water. They also don't have power. I'm feeling very. I'm feeling very bad. I feel like fry. Don't own a rosette Chowdry said my basement. Every place has full water. I have a lot of material are damaged a half. Ooh water m my basement. No electric no hot water. No gas in my building. No injuries have been reported. Asked a result. Full fare is probably close between warren street and saint marks place and some residents could see little or reduce pressure news. Copter seven was overseen to survey the situation in the damage to be one of three bus which runs on warfare. New has been. We routed the department of environmental protection is on the scene and said the initial investigation revealed that the contract to operate rigged Main was hired by a private firm currently is noble war for area but there may be disruptions in an water as repairs contain some also see discolored tat water though it's not harmful a should not be consumed crews are working to flush the discolored water from the system anyone experiencing on water is advised to fill at three one one form. What type of repair will be necessary in. How long will it take. It would take to complete will be determined west waters off. Engineers can assess the damage in the area can be anticipated for several days rates I do want. I do want to touch on something Let me see. let me see. The baby's entourage. Arise arrested k. So lucy we are going to right right Okay so the baby entourage. Rapper wisdom arrested for attempted murder in miami shooting. The rat a rapper named wisden. Who cops say is a part of the babies entourage has been arrested for attempted murder with a deadly weapon and aggravated assault with a firearm. Police docs obtained by teams. E. say Wisdom was a part of a group of males. Who got in an argument with the alleged victim outside of a miami restaurant. Cops say the trotz run by wisden fired at least one shot striking one of the victims in the leg. Another man christopher irina was also arrested on a series of charges including attempted murder. Cops say you rena was seen shooting one of the victims in the back. That man is still hospitalized. In critical condition is said to be paralyzed. Yes this is terrible. This is terrible terrible. News here The rappers attorney drew finding tells teams the missed Has been released by the police. No criminal charges have been filed against the baby is being questioned by mammy. Police following the shooting late monday night. That left two people injured one critically team as he has learned law enforcement tells us cops interviewed rapper as part of their investigation into the incident which were went down near several popular miami beach restaurants just before midnight told detectives are actively following leads in the shooting and know. Several people were initially detained so far. No arrests have been made anyone with possible. Infils urge content miami day crime stoppers at three zero five. Four one tips. Our sources say wanted to shooting victims has been treated at the hospital and released but the other remain hospitalized in is listed in critical condition earlier this year teams was the first to report that the baby was arrested in beverly hills for allegedly carrying a load of farm. We've reached out to the rapids team. No war back yet boy This is just beyond. This is unbelievable man. This is unbelievable. I'm gonna get my thoughts together on this Okay you know how this people who who do careless things. You have people who have unauthorized who decides to to do something very very crazy as as an attempt to in an attempted murder to some to someone is just beyond beyond ridiculous. Why you do that on those beyond me The issue is Not to take Not to take with winning. He said earlier as far as the baby sometimes getting into trouble with stuff. But you know she's right by me towers. The baby have been troubled. Allegedly how many times. He's always been in trouble then having people back him up and stuff. But there's gonna be a point in time that you know people to basically you know. Turn turn back over him because they don't want to be a part of that mess so So let me just say. Let me. Just say this stuff. If you're gonna go to miami florida for an event and an you wanna have. You wanna have a good sign. Sure you check Your partners Apartments bag so so he or or another person. Don't even think about bringing a weapon to cause a rocky so right In you know what that's going into what hold on. That's gonna do it for this episode. I like to say I like to say even though even though my is not here i am doing the best. I came to actually gathered things up as far as anything goes with their situation on. I will try to reach back to see what's going on with them. But but it but in any any particular case right here there is notice. There isn't another story. I want to do actually hung on for conclude this so i can actually figure something up with the Actually there's let me see our home on folks. Just bear with me spirit. War hip news today airy Let's see Let me see me. See this is. This is quite interesting. all right so hip hop dx so timberlake affronts swiss beats over justin timberlake black culture comments timorous beasts kicked off their verses rematch over memorial day weekend andy iconic produces lived. Up to the hype. One of the most talked about moments came with swizz. Beatz called out justin for his lack of support culture. Swiss's comments about justin taking from black culture and not giving back has been a topic of discussion since the pop singer drop his debut solo album justified in two thousand two. Now timbale is coming to. The defense of jt confronted swiss about his connoisseur. A post show last drain with hip hop in more. You did A little heart on my brother. Jt doug tim lewis said of the touchy situation. From sunday night. You went to hard man. swiss took the a pain with stride and explained tim Fans that he had to call adjusted. Look man i had to go are switched Did you hear how dem songs were sounding on that stage you it was like. Jt was in the building. I was like man. Although he felt he had to aggressively let jt. No the verses audience was waiting swizz. Made sure to explain. It's all love at the end of the day. I don't got no problem with jt. Swiss added don't got no problem with nobody. Shout out to j t. We can't wait to get you on stage having fun. 'cause you deserve to justin timberlake's possible involvement with verses began back in january when tim miller revealed during an interview on. Espn jalen and jacoby. That drake wants to him. Go up against usher. it's so funny. Drake hit me up to about it. He said we gotta make that happen on my soon soon to come soon come tim. Lynn said well at did not really see any while. Okay my point about this. Even though i may have missed i have missed it. Actually so i didn't get a chance to it per se but as far as him burst. Forest swizz beatz Hard jt about the black culture stuff. Look let man sometimes time and a place for everything in this one right here to basically go harder at adjusting tim the way we we know that he's white. We know we know the basics of what's been was w- the discussion. We know that. But i do wanna do want to say this though. You can't really forced to change a person's mind just because just because of of you know in no such and such and such Dispute i mean if you really want to think about it though man i mean doesn't temporarily was was on tim lewis protege for crummy crummy reveal. And i do remember this. Because i do remember the from you river video years ago when it came out it was but it was. It was actually. It was actually pretty good though But you know what the. Liz wrap this up here. that's gonna do it for Off the meat red. Change your podcast. 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NBA Play-In Recap & Are The Lakers In Trouble?

Bob Ryan & Jeff Goodman NBA Podcast

47:45 min | 4 months ago

NBA Play-In Recap & Are The Lakers In Trouble?

"Going to take it. Jus Legends in basketball analysis with over 70 years, combined experience. This is the bar Brian and Jeff Goodman podcast, NBA some college little bit of everything. You know, what can I say? But it wasn't going to happen here with him. I was wrong with it because it wasn't about talent. I didn't think. All right, let's get right to our, welcome into another episode of be riding Goodman podcast. He's Bob Ryan, I'm Jeff Goodman and we got a lot to talk about a lot to talk about. We're going to run the gamut here, NBA playoffs. If you can call it that, I don't know if we can call it that with the plane, I do. I know it's the play in and took a different category with nonsense. It's it's it's the extended playoffs. You are, I know and it's just, this isn't it just about this? Yeah. More money talks about ultimately, it's about dining table. Maintaining interest. I mean like I was against it but it's worked out the way they hoped. Yeah, I mean listen it worked when you get LeBron and Steph, it's crazy. I'm an area around right like, right. So can argue with that, I'm not going to fight it but anyway, it's still the stupid credit on the idea that they're going to have like a record book of playing them to send me on a mimeograph all of us. We know the Tatum holds the record. Now you know that he does, we'll get to that in a minute Tatum's fifty in a minute which I was off. Let's start with step and looks fine. And last night and listen early on it looked ugly. But you knew listen, you knew LeBron wasn't going to be rusty for long and he comes back and and wills them to to Victory hitting a shot where he shot three ribs Bob, you believe number my number one, takeaway job, Is the game was won in the last one. Lost in the third quarter and the 3rd. When they turned it over, immediately they put Schrader on the line for for gimme Fritos. Thursday 8:13 to 9 single-digits metal metal barrier, you know, crust. And then they start turning it over now whether they turned it over because they're just sloppy, which historically they have been even when they were great or the Lakers turned up today, more likely, It's a combination of the both and certainly Golden State didn't respond to the challenge. That was the case and and gave gave up the easy basket and put like and then they came back after that. They actually took the lead, one possession and and the War years went extended, it back out and had gained control the game again, I that's number one. So that's my number one thing. They lost in the third quarter of which historically, the way they play, they've been sloppy and they and, and at times And it cost him. So again the part that I'm annoyed about with the planes is like, okay, you know what, it should be if she want to do something, just do the eight, nine just through the eight, nine, and in the winters in and loser goes home, that's that's step. Shouldn't get another shot here. Like, that's it, you should be home now. I'm like, that's the part that I know the four teams in it. I don't know, came up with that one. I mean, I'm not going to paraphrase. I'm not going to channel my inner LeBron and anything on that regard to the nature of this thing. But I don't know who how they came up with this format. It's, it's a little fakakta format as far as I'm concerned, you know. So you know like that, huh? So haven't used that one a while. Anyway. Yeah. I hear that very often but you know, I'm an old guy we're going to do but anyway, you're right. I agree with that. Okay. Oh, by the way, let the record show that LeBron was standing on the are dead. Of the word Center as in Staples Center where he launched that shot, which is officially, by the way, on the map, if you look it up, that's called curryland. Yeah. Sure. He shot them and an average shooter at Best in his career. And so, are you buying well, first of all, how good of an actor is LeBron when he took my dream on like how good are you believing? She you don't think he was looking at 3 a.m. instead he chose to go on? I think as you get older Bob I think as you get older you tend not to exaggerate a little bit. I take the our powers of our mutual powers of logic, are tend to lead us in a direction that there was some lesbianism going on? Yes, now, the younger and more naive. Members of the audience might take LeBron at face value, but hey, who it is. It's it's not, it doesn't work that way, you know, and and not, it just doesn't work that way. If you really couldn't see, you couldn't eat didn't know that he saw, I'm sorry. What? Fine, I don't care. There's a lucky shot shot. Shot clock is going down. He throws up. You would go to. It was it was a shot-clock team that could have happened on any shot clock went wind down in the game. What happened to be in a propitious moment, then? Anybody can anybody can luckily make a shot? Now? I know now I say that it. I'm sure if we annotate will find out that he said, one of the sheriff, a big baskets of at the end of clocks are near end of game. In in this time and and but you know it isn't his thing necessarily it is stepstick Stephanie, want to end of the half which was a great. Yeah. And that one, he had when he hits it. You're like, yeah, he meant to do that. Like, like, like if scripted whatever when LeBron hits you, and you're like creating some space for his eyes open? You know, that's what you say when the bride had fun pack, but the fact that it was the great one player and not, you know, no offense, not Kentavious and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, you know, fine. Now, it was the game wasn't over with 58,000 two seconds. A lot of basketball to be played. So the Warriors had two chances. Hi, I'm going to get to my event. Good, one of my age-old theories. Is that every referee at every level of basketball? Starting with youth when you should have to pass a tooth, a one question pass-fail quiz before he or she is allowed to to do officiate Thursday. And that question is, why am I here? Why am I here? And and my answer to that question, is that I am here to adjudicate the smooth flow of the game? I am not here to prove to you. I know every, in the rule book and that I will apply the rule book uniformly, no matter what the circumstance of the game, I will be a strict constructionist showing you. How damn smart I am that. I read and memorized, the rulebook. Okay. So, what am I getting at? You don't make that call on Draymond Green for a rushing little setting that it off at the moment. If you're making the first quarter, I'm upset if you make it in the fourth quarter forth. Whatever I am livid. That's not a call. You make, that's a national BS call. Let it go. You know, when to send yeah I don't like to when people are like well a call in the first quarter to call on the phone that's something else. Stand the game, I'm serious. I don't care in the fourth quarter. It's not true, you've got to officiate differently. Yeah. And fish ate with like, a basic constants off in the comments at that is. I'll never, I'll never forget, I thought about it immediately last night. In nineteen seventy-nine, I am covering the Spurs and deadbolts a great seven-game series and in game seven, and the Cap Center in the last minute of play of a one-point game or so, they called that made that call on the Whopper off Billy paultz. And I remember after the game it rings in my ear forty-two years later, he'd been around a long time. At that point, he said, I've been around a long time. I know enough. Not to even create the impression of contact on that play. Sure. And they made that call. Well, I thought of Billy paultz last night, I hope he was watching. Yeah, Bruno Bruno call. Now, what was it? The game, but it affected the game absolutes. And he came home and wash at the last shot. And they can they can get no. Did it matter to you now. I mean, the Lakers get Phoenix instead of Utah, is that a big deal to you or or or anything else? I was thinking about this today is it in my judgment? I haven't we discussed this already. How good are Phoenix and Utah we really don't know. No, no nice regular season, a great and I applaud and I'm a defender of the regular season. Having once cover the team that one sixty-eight games and did not win the championship due to an injury, but you don't tell me the name Murray state provided for those of us who watch them play. Weren't, it's still here Forty-Eight years later. Okay, 47. All right, so they had great seasons and they deserve to be commended for their Seasons but this dog New ball game and we don't know. So no. It's your question is that's the funny part about this, assuming Golden State wins against Memphis. Not a not a given but who am, but if it's Memphis fine, but Golden State, we're talking about that specifically because they lost this game last night if they beat Memphis and they're going to play Utah. Designed make any damn differences of whether they had one last night. I'm playing Phoenix Emily. No, no, I think when my father play Utah, know, I mean, if you're you feel bad that like Chris Paul who, you know, hasn't won a title and gets criticized for life for even being hurt in the postseason or not getting it done. He gets his boy laprade. Now, in the first round after their season and it'll be a listen. They're both going to be grateful matchups, have golden state gets past, Memphis and plays Utah. Now like those are Wars now. No, sir, the Western Conference has some great match-ups, not bad. Part, of course, four or five years. A lot of steak and forth, but those kids got got things going on, you know, that can't believe the Clippers have been, this average mediocre all year. But but what I will say to that page is does Kawhi in his mind just Pace himself now is he that type of guy that just kind of works up to the postseason at this point. After seeing what happened a couple of years? He's got two two of them to show for it and and, you know, I I wouldn't put it past them. He's he's smart. He's calculating, you know, his intelligence is a major part of his office stick member. He's six six, he's not, he's not, he's not Anthony Davis, he's not LeBron, he's a different, physical be in order to accomplish what he accomplishes, you know, this got to have a full mental physical package, and he's very smart in this game. So, now by possibly, but they, if he interested have a lot of stake in a whole franchise, has a lot at stake, you know? And yep. Sawdust Dallas, you know, with with this Too Young Turks and and and you know this expectation. So you might there's a lot of all over the map on the west is going to be awesome thousand and three, six. Come on, you know, who knows who I went through Denver and Portland, I pay to see that all of them. All four of them, I'd love to cover. I mean, I look at it from a standpoint of, you know, if I were going to do seven games as a writer man, there's a lot of serious. I'd be very happy to cover, which one would you pick about that? If you had to pick a series in the west that you got to cover for seven games wage actually? Which one are you? Picking well, you'll get stuck up. Yes, you are? Yes, you are. I'm afraid it would that would be that I'm a jokic guy and you haven't seen him in person could ever remember. And a congress cuz when I first heard about him you know anyway I'm a convert and you know who told me about him the first person to tell me about him that raved about him was easy at Pinckney. He really miss then. Yeah, he was he was an assistant in in Denver at the time and he said to me were talking before game on the road somewhere. I can't remember what arena we were in and he said to me, you gotta watch this kid, it was his rookie year. Yeah. And Eddie obviously, is working with a big every day. He said, this kids going to be a stud and I'm like, him really? And boy was he right? The riding Goodman podcast brought to you by betonline.ag BetOnline the fastest and easiest, I bet on all your Sports Action, football might be over, but NBA can be NHL are in full swing, but I'm not even covers Awards, TV shows and reality. T V real time, updated odds. Option. Almost anything you can imagine, but online has you covered, for all the news scoresandodds. It's the best way to place your bets, and it's free to sign up ahead of the website, or use your mobile device. To sign up and receive your 50%. Welcome bonus on your first deposit. That's been online your online Sportsbook, experts. What is your confidence level? With the Lakers now. Coming out of that game watching, LeBron physically, a these got a chance to certainly shake off some Rust against Phoenix and going forward. Are they still your clear favorites or no, well, I never had a clear favorite necessarily but I think I still have to I hate betting against the run and and and assuming that these eyes are fine and now he's going to get better and better off. Trusting about the eyes are fun. He's going to get better and better, you know, last year they had the next Factor was Rondell last night, you know is is Caruso. Going to play that role. He dead. Without him last night and they don't win without him. And and he remains the most improbably the Muslim probable useful player in the league on a physical basis, right? And wrong he's useful and he never went without him but they they're going to have that rotating Third, Man up, you know, kind of thing. Whether it's going to be Pope or God knows Christmas possible and you never know, you know? And if that's possible, okay, may I ask you this interest, if I had, if you had put the proverbial Luger only because of LeBron and who he is. All right. I'll go with them. But when I'm not, I'm just curious. What do we expect from Drummond and do they have a have? They figured out exactly what they have? No, no I don't think they figured out yet cuz 7 play together. Long enough. Right, you know, no Andre Drummond is You know, he'll rebound, he'll fight in there. He'll score a couple buckets. He's not a guy, you can run anything through Thursdays. You know, he's big, he's strong. You don't know what you're going to get from every night on the offensive end, but I think he listened, he helps him cuz he's a veteran. Who's better than anything? They've yeah, well, it's all soft. And he doesn't play any one, right? It's also nightly gampy. Now I have a question. What's with Harold? Was he hurting? I didn't know what he was hurt, right? Just become a month for practically. Yeah, you know, well, he's an energy big, but ultimately, you can't really score, you know, can't really score. And some people want to compare him to like pay him at a bio, you know? Because again, they're both energy Biggs. But, you know, bands, just so good defensively, you know. Also cuz Trader who wage The end of the season, you gotta give him the benefit of the doubt that he will play better. I like him. I think he will. And I think he's fearless and tough and he's what they need, he can be there. Rhonda. Well, that's it. He's got that's always been asking is going to. He's been slotted into. Yeah, no question and he he's, you know, he can hit you with twenty any given night get you with 25, you know. So we'll see how long that number just jumped out at half time they were for 428. LeBron Davis and Schrader were for 428 and you're only down, thirteen, and then only because boss Stephen, you know, with the monster shot at the buzzer and anyway it that got so much more good basketball ahead of them. I think, you know, they, they kind of dodged the bullet in that sense to pull it off last night. And and yet the same thing I say, we said about it didn't ultimately matter, they don't give a damn O'Day play, you know? Yeah. Oh, no, not not. Like the teams in the East that. Damn, that have a name. I'm going to do what they do and then they think it's going to be a help in the soonest. Going to be enough. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. So what been to the Eastern Conference playing and and I went I took my wife to the Wizards Celtics game and you know, it's funny. I was going to go media. I was going to go cuz, you know, have to pay Why Pay, but it was such a nice night out and tickets weren't much at all. I mean, they were it almost is that indicative? I wonder of the lack of of interest in this sucks team right now, you know, we will be, you know, because it's such a profound cynicism about this group, they they've they've, you know, squandered any Goodwill that they had coming out of last year or even the last couple of years this year, maybe, like, piss people off frankly. And yeah. And again, then you take Jaylen Brown out of the equation and people don't pay for going. All right, so they won the game. I've got 5829 the rest of them at thirty-eight, I think it was fine and I'm you know, it was very why it is fifty. I've seen maybe in my life pop it was just such a quiet, you know, cuz that's how kind of Tatum operates right. He's smooth. He doesn't talk trash, he's not yelling and screaming Agony bucket. He makes he started slow and you really did write. He had 17-point third-quarter that sort of what I liked about it was the nature of it was the fact that the incline a 17 free throws, which, of course you made them all, but it was a balanced. Offensive degree, punch shepherd. He had he did a little bit of everything that showcases full repertoire. He hit some threes, you some difficult, it's a beautiful midrange post up turn around and he went to which, you know, has always been able to do beautifully. But he bounced everything out to get those fifty and and I like that that's the way he can't log. I wanted to play and people always ask him to play, not fall in love but one thing or the other but, you know, balance it out and it, it, it might, it seemed very casual and comfortable and it wasn't piggy. I've seen a piggy, you know, everything's 2000, he wasn't shot hunting. Like, it wasn't like he was, he was forcing it. And I actually came away saying, like, I don't even think it was long as a game. I honestly, I really don't think it was a game and he had fifty points. So I don't know what to I, you know, find they want, I'm glad they want. I think that faith is really if you were total dead, neutral you and I said the following was this game worried about the Celtics of the Wizards. Yeah, the Wizards just don't, you know, barreling down the stretch 17 and sixty, they were dead in the water, and they got in Westbrook's magnificent. Every night off. Bill wasn't himself, we we no good move. You can see at times describing his hamstring and Westbrook would have needed a superhuman effort to pull them through. You know, what it was to, you know, what, thought, a big key was, I don't know how many I can look back as we're talking, but rui hachimura Picked up four or five files, as quick as I've seen a player pick up, he played. Let's see, he played 16 minutes and picked up five miles, but I'm telling you, he had three thousand, five minutes that's good. Yeah. And they don't have anybody else. Then they had to put deal on Tatum and Bill isn't healthy. And he's given up five or you know, five inches 6 inches, 6 inches. Yeah. I mean Tatum, that's when Tatum starting to get going is Bill. Couldn't you know, on switches couldn't get out on Tatum and Cave had far more space to operate within the third quarter. So I still listen, I'm still watching Bradley Beal saying to myself, man, you are put him with Campbell third-quarter Kemba and put him with this Jason Tatum. I just felt like early in your watching video and he just makes the right read. Way more than Jaylen Brown. Does that that I ultimately it's just dead. Coming down to the fit, the fit. And I keep saying to myself when I watched Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum play, it looks like they were thrown in the playground together for the first time. A lot of times, it looks like they've never played ball together where I think Bill and and Tatum they obviously have cuz they'll hang out all the time. Not to mention. I got the they got the package and ship thing, they got dressed and you know yeah. I mean that's yeah, no question people. That's a big part of it. All right. So what what chances do you give the Jaylen Brown less? Boston Celtics against the big three e k, dikha RI in in James Harden and how, you know, how much is it going to piss you off to watch? Kyrie, run roughshod on the Celtics. My goal is win, one game, salvage, some dignity. And I think that the, the bet is that they'll sweep. The Celtics get a game mind. You know, I'll be happy anything over. That is totally off. Money and and and, you know, I know people hate that phrase so I love it and I, they're playing to me the whole thing's house money now. So yeah, we're game be great. But 50/50 they can win a game at best. I think that's about it. They were being crushed, them notified her season. And I I don't see any evidence that that's going to change dramatically and in the playoffs. Yeah, person I'm with you there. And and you know, to me again it's about if Tatum can be a star in the center and what else you're getting sick without, you know, for me it's it's honestly more about the Brooklyn team and how they're going to look and how they're going to use this series. Honestly get prepared for the next one. Yeah. No kidding. They're still working progress in terms of disunity thing. There's no question about it. Everyone knows that that, that this is their opportunity so, and and they're probably, they're very fortunate that the, you know, the Celtics at full strength would wage They were better than but now Celtics without brown with Robert Williams, Robin Williams, who knows, just heard, always hurt all the time, I mean, the other night wasn't his fault. He had the classic he came down on, he came down on Tim's foot. Is that what it was? I couldn't tell him first. The classic I saw that we play a game like that. This is like, any you met. Anybody play a pick-up basketball. This is an injury as always waiting to happen. Yeah, I know. So yeah, it's one thing after the other would have hip and this investment, you know, and how reliable is you're going to be, which is why I still say, I know something happens, a lot of them, he's got all the talent in the world, all the upside in the world, but you know, what? Upside doesn't win the games know, unless you're on the court. Yeah, I don't know, I think if I'm Danny Ainge, I'm absolutely dangling. Robert Williams in the off-season and seeing what I can get for him in a package. With, again, off to me, I would, I would do Jaylen Brown and Robert Williams for Bradley Beal. That's me, that's me. I know people think I'm nuts and I wouldn't start there. I'd start with just straight up now, with that first-round pick. But if I had to do it, if I had, if it was the only thing I could do to get Bradley Beal, I would do that trick. I would All right, we've established that we have established that. What about Philly? And and you know my theory on them is I mean Philly's going not going to Cakewalk E. I mean listen whether they play Washington with a with a banged-up Bradley Beal or they're going to play Indiana and we don't know if they're going to have Caris LeVert, I mean, they're going to heavy easiest series of anybody in a ba. Yeah. So it's it's a matter of down the road silly. It seems to me that there was a good marriage of a group of guys who needed another boss and needed another voice step and a coach, you needed another set of years and they found each other. I mean, hundred percent. Listen, I love Brett Brown of them but like he was brought in to lose games. He was, he made it, he made it much longer than anybody thought he would make it. And I think ultimately he was putting in an impossible situation wage. When you're, when you're brought in to lose games, like he was by Sam hinkie and Beads there from the beginning. And, and again, I was said, part of the problem was Ben Simmons, one. Happy necessarily would be kid, gloves treatment of Joel embiid. That's what I was told. By sources is, you could call his shots when he wanted to practice, when he couldn't, he was the franchise and he was coming off two years of being hurt. Yeah, so they had to they had a kind of play them that way but you know I just think it was one of those things where they just needed a change of scenery as much as anything, they need a new voice and nobody better again at establishing relationships and connecting people than one Glen Rivers. Yeah, no faith or some, like, you know, happy for him, always, and then, but it worked out really, really well. It has worked out well, so far, so. So anyway, you're right. They're going to Breeze through the first round, whatever it is. And, and then, and then fund wage. Right. If I must start another series, I'm very curious about this, the 360 and, and because, you know, Miami are playing well, yeah, yeah, who knows? And that one off and and, you know, they have confidence against this particular fellow. That's a different team to a holiday is there is not Bledsoe and all understand that. But nonetheless, I think Miami will enter this thing with it in a very good about its chances. So, all right, let's move on to you went to Something in person. I went to the Hall of Fame weekend with my daughter and we had a very, very nice time. And did you say both? May be there. Both nights. We have Friday night for they Curt Gowdy award presentation and and the many Jackson spirit, human Spirit award and they've added two New Media Awards this year. And she can't forget one has to do with the word insight. And now it's given to Jim Gray. And, and of course, the media Awards, the Curt Gowdy the print was Michael wilbon, where people, you know, only know, and now for television but it was dead. Work with Washington place, ready for 30 years covered, a ton of basketball and and my queen. And you know who could I could you not like Mike Green. So that was the Curt Gowdy of broadcast winner and then they, they have an award that's been instituted for about four or five years ago by many Jackson who was the former owner of the Globetrotters and many who had amazingly life history. By the way, his went off once living in a boxcar, talk about upward Mobility. Well, many checks and literally, he has an autobiography, tell you about living in a box part, but he put his name on The War called the main Jackson, Human Spirit award, and it was shared by three people three, NBA Titans. If you will to MBA Titans in one Collegiate type, Wayne Embry, great Wayne. Embry Bill Russell, you may hurt him and George raveling, Who seems to show up everywhere and George George raveling. So now, is that night? It was very nice night. Got the smooth with a lot of people. Yeah. So explain to people what the nightclub. Like again, I saw some of the and I went years ago. I was going to go this year. Invited my dad and he wasn't comfortable going and then was thinking of bringing my daughter, thought they wanted to go, but I thought you'd be bored. So, you know, you just you have a dinner and then we and a couple of speeches there and then we took it over to the ceremony and and the ceremony is it was in the arena, the Mohegan Sun Arena, the home of the Connecticut sun and you know, isn't any mistakes and you have nine thousand people, but there's no, there's no presenting speech. So, you know, it's not one of those deals where you have the introduction. And then so it's, you know, it's really eighteen stitches and you're here until 3 in the morning. No. Choice of all televised and slowed. There's two and half hour window and it and and I think even needed to stretch the end. So that was, that was good. So you have nine people, the presenters are just one month Just symbolic. Everyone has to be presented accompanied by a Hall of Famer. So one Hall of Famer serve double-duty. Michael Jordan was not only to present her for Kobe but was a presenter for Barbara Stevens. The head coach of the former head coach just retired was retired and Bentley University thousand game-winner and and and won national championship 2014. So we were real proud of her and greater Boston. I don't know what the connection wage, but that Michael was was her presenter. So, so the big, the big, the big guns. Yeah. The big guys, the three cheese for me. Can I tell you what? I thought I was really, really surprised by Kevin Garnett speech. It was very tame thanked. Everybody, I wanted to hear more stories, but I think kg just kind of got up there and was almost like wage like, I don't know. It's like I think it hit him it just you can see, it hit him. The magnitude of, oh my God, like I was a high school kid coming out of Chicago and now I'm a I'm here in front of looking down in front and seeing Michael Jordan and all these guys magic in the front row. He was very, very, very tame, not only Chicago, South Carolina, but, you know, he's really a South Carolina. Okay. Here's what I loved about, what he did. The first words out of his mouth, know a and done nothing first word, total bill Willoughby. Yes boxes down jackets, Moses Malone and Spencer Haywood and thank them for setting a table, right? For his, his willingness, and his job is to come out after twenty years when nobody had done it at, that could be it. Got the right, the other three guys that did it. That were back in the seventies, that came out of high school and went right to the NBA. People forget about Goldberg. Willoughby. But, you know, he was one of them who bought a way. I'll have to make one of the great blocks, the history of basketball. We'll talk about that in a minute anyway, kg paid immediate reverence virtual homage to those guys got me one me over with that, right away. And you're right. He was, he was very, very tame. It was very, very heartfelt was very good. Yeah. Tim Duncan. Well, Tim Duncan, first of all, when since we last saw him and his I didn't see him as he was coaching with the Spurs. So since maybe since the last time, many of you saw him as a player and he after the 20 years of looking at him his close-cropped head, he's got the dreads going to go. He's gone back to the island roots and the only person who a did not wear a tie rod, but did the open look, Ted Williams look and be the only person who didn't speech work. Work of speech, from a prompter but who Winged It Off. He did he winged it and it was it was I love that, I don't know, it takes listen, I'm I admire it and thinking of all people you didn't know what he was going to say, you know, we didn't really want to be there, seriously, even never liked the media. You never like, dealing with the media, even now to the minute, he walked up up the stairs. He was sitting there and he had his family and little girl was playing dead. And, and, and, you know, and I know some because look like, well, I like, all right, I guess I gotta do this. That's the lucky head up there and he was terrific, but he's gone back to the island. Got the dreads, and the guy. He looked so cash, you know. But his speech was fine naturally. Of course, we all know the background Hurricane, Hugo you there. But, you know, we have some great clips of video clips of him as a swimmer, a thirteen-year-old. Yeah. So you mean so it was fine, but how much was Kobe missed? Because I'm not, I'm not going to lie to you like I think if khong Had been there. I would have, went I do, I think part of it for me was seeing Kobe's. Like, I didn't think Duncan would be all that entertaining. Yeah, I think it's been muted at this had taken place in June or May of two thousand twenty three months, four months after the fact. After this, when we're still in shock, still in disbelief. And I mean we I mean, everybody follows basketball not to mention the people who are in that room and and you know that that those specifically that that you know, that had a relationship and for whom you know he met so much money would have been heavier would have been different. Would have been a tougher night for all concerned would have been Certainly a problem in a sense, unfair problems with Garnett and and Duncan specifically, you know, but it's a year removed it's you know, how long, I think I made a difference in the in the atmosphere and there wasn't as heavy as it would have been. Okay. Rudy T steals the show, does he who knew it Rudy take off each it when what was you know a conventional you know when you got to do it's like the Oscars you you think everybody you ever met you know nobody the world record for thanks was Ellen Tyrus who thank God in fact a trillion people. All right. I was so fine. Okay, he gave us tradition. It was a traditional speech and humble and find every day. And then as he's rounding, third and heading back home to mix metaphors and make Sports here. And why would he belongs in this Hall of Fame? And why weren't worried should be here and whoever Dory should be stated, and he's doing it. And this is with Ted Williams dead. 56, but a Negro League players, you know? But yeah, sort of comment Rudy T like the bat for Robert Horry and it was like a moment. Well well, it was going off. That was cool. All right, so so my question to you, Robert Horry. Does he belong? now, if I will arrange Bob 7, 7 is another I I I I and I wasn't as if he was in. This is difficult, contributor. We know we know of at least, one anomaly important shot. Probably with at least two or three, right off. We know the one, you know, and yeah, without him making some of those baskets they don't win plus do. But I don't think it's the whole thing player. I don't either, I don't either, but I'm leaving, you know, it's funny. It's funny is this, the it was presented with how many years ago, we might be the person. That that was the, the trivia question of the question. Was this whose career, would you rather have Robert Horry with Charles Barkley month? And, you know, the next question was posed eight. Ten years ago, you know? And, and you know, we see where you're going with this, right? And, you know, to me, I still would rather be Berkeley. I would, oh, yeah. I'd rather be or Millie. I'd Rather Be by Clean. I know how good they are know, like, listen all the attention and all that. That's great for. Like, but if you look at it from the core of, I guess, what you you want to say, you should say Robert Horry. Now, again, if you're going through both careers, you're saying I'm the guy right on Berkeley. I'm the guy and everything like that but man, dead. Yeah, winning. But winning should be the most important thing, what with? But he wasn't, he was very important. And we'd I said they don't without him, but he wasn't the reason they want. Nope, no bus the theories and there's never a divorce and so, he wasn't as important as the guy. It wasn't like Berkeley was on bad teams. He wasn't one great shot. He only had one great shot. Now, isn't that was 93 and, and yell, and that six-game series including a trip, a long time. And, and Phoenix, they had a shot, they had a shot, you know, and they didn't get it done. And that's when Michael was out to prove, you know, there were every time they said somebody up my car was going out through them, you know, was a quiet Drexler home. It was, I don't know, was it was someone else? Oh, Marley, and Marley was sitting at two of them on a, on a son, Steve might be in Berkeley by the way, in reference to an environment or anything who's sitting out there fifty feet or less than fond of Rudy, when he's doing this Charles Barkley. And then the first thing I went through my mind is Rudy's up here is advocating and stopping for, for ory. And the guy there was a part be in a of the of the what-if question was sitting here, but yep. Oh no, I enjoyed it the time cuz it's great to get to see people naturally. And you know and and and I'm going to go next year next year. I'm going to get all take my dad you know part of it too long. If I'm taking my daughter that means I can't go play Blackjack probably at night. I hope they keep it in mind. You can son neither going back to Springfield. They are, it's, it's September 10th. Seventh just went up to the quick turnaround. Yeah, this is massive. Twenty twenty. Now we have class of Twenty One growing your business takes more than offering a popular product or service. It's essential, right? People in place to ensure your company operate smoothly and has the potential to expand LinkedIn jobs. Helps you find the best candidates for free. 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Yeah, Chris Bosh better but no better career nineteen point. I just don't think is Chris, Bosh is a home. Pamer. Okay, that's fine. And that's the way the voting goes people toward the panel, hi. Paul. Peirce is no brainer. Don't know. And this, although I still say, Paul Pierce Without Kevin Garnett. I'm not sure like like a I don't know I might get checked me. Yeah, it was interesting. I mean they didn't win with him but Paul Peirce was a losing player, Kevin Garnett came along and now it was kind of I mean, the three of them was totally. Yes. Yeah. Who's the fourth one? I forget, I'm player was home for Claire. Jay Wright, made it for college. I know. I want to go to my podcast jest, of course. Yep. Yeah, I was happy too and I tweeted it ten years ago. Think about that. J. Right. Ten years ago. I'm talking about, losing his job. Yeah. And what else we got here? Player, come on and drive me crazy. We've got to look it up. I got it. Ben Wallace Wallace. Now, there's an interesting one that's really interesting, wartime, defensive player to Europe. I never would have thought about him. And whenever it was presented to me and I said, oh really the fact that matter is, you know, birth This year's class. It's rather underwhelming, you think. Wow, you know, no offense but come on. It's just we had this was the most decorated class ever. Like, I mean, I gave you the numbers last time at 2526 first team all-nba. As you know, I mean, that coin is ridiculous, but this next class is, you know, who I am not who. But, you know, saying we have different Play-Doh. We go happy for Jay, right? Yeah. Me too me, too. Are you wanting to you? Want to call us before? We did this, I want to hear. I want to know, you know, give me your phone know what year your Cliff Notes version, but I don't understand a violation. It's not that I care. But, what's this violation about grad, assistants? I don't let, let's first, let's set up with what happened. All right guys, you know, God will have no idea what happened. Basically, Chris Mack hired Dino gaudio about three years ago when he took over Louisville. They've been friends forever. Okay, do you know ghatiya was assistant underscores. Prosser when skip died, he took over as the head coach at wake. Three years went to the tournament, two of the three years and then was fired. Okay, so he knows a little flammable. Okay, so often easiest guy to get along with when I've talked to people that have worked with him, okay? He's strong opinions. Whatever Chris Mack fires, do you offer audio and Luke Murray Bill Murray's, son, about two months ago and it kind of came out of nowhere a little bit but Louisville didn't make the tournament this year. The staff was not very cohesive or I will say that according to my sources and they didn't get along great together. So something needed to be done. So he fires the, you know, got you, You know, gaudio goes ballistic, goes absolutely nuts. And basically says, unless you pay me for the next eighteen months, I'm going to go to the media and tell him about all the illegal violations. You've done now, Chris Mack was smart enough to record it. He recorded who bought a smart move. And here's why smart move because, Dino gaudio wasn't going to move forward with anything after that. Because he knew it was all on Thursday. So so he had to basically say I didn't mean it, but I didn't mean any of that, right? They was heated the moment. I didn't mean it. Now, if if Chris Mack didn't have it on audio, do you know? God might have continued to try to extort which was the word you used, right? So anyway, so Chris Mack. You know, gaudio the violations, what are the alleged violations? Their level three violations. So one of them was like a grad assistant practicing with the team. Well, I guess, if you're at assistant you have to certain grad. Assistants can practice certain ones. Can I don't know the rules. It's the dumbest thing. What is it? Who would even put a rule like that in? If the answer is a point, no point, no point. It's a level three violation. That that is irrelevant who cares, right? Right. The other one is when kids come on campus life, you know, everybody makes like a recruiting video for the kids when they visit or I guess even maybe a resume you do it now over the last year, I don't know when this happened but might have been a couple of years ago when they were coming on campus. You can't personalize the videos. Like, you can't put Ryan. If you're coming to campus, they can't put like Ryan on the back of a Jersey. It's gotta be. So that's the other, the other it in a horrible. The dumbest things ever horrible thing. Oh my God. I'm so the worst part is like, a lot of media people off like killing this, and it again. It's an embarrassment for a little, it should have never gotten to this point because ultimately the FBI got involved. And if I'm Louisville I'm saying like no, I don't want the FBI involved. Like we're dropping this and if I'm Dino gaudio I'm saying like I want this dropped to like so both sides should have agreed but I guess once it gets to a certain point five kids, they're only involved. But like why would the FBI even it was a disgruntled employee? Now, he's pissed off and said some things that he might have met, but once he was on tape in his mind, he didn't meet him anymore. But meanwhile, you should set yourself. You presented yourself to the World At Large in the world that you're trying to work in as a, as a distrustful person as a, you know, as a bad guy. I mean who wants to hire somebody? Who's going to turn around and say that he's done anyway. He was going to retire. He was going to retire from what I was told after next year. So he wanted to get paid and then be able to retire at sixty-five probably be this is burning that bridge. I mean to me it's done yeah he's done and he was out when he got fired at wake he did ESPN a lot of years we would ask for about ten years and Chris back being really wrong with him hired him on and I remember telling that guy was like why are you like he's not going to get you players he's sixteen you know sixty years old, he's been out for a while, he's not going to get you Players Club. So anyway, yeah. That thing. All right, good. I wanted that one of the error that out, interesting. I mean, certainly interesting. And again, Louisville people are, you know, they suck the blood of anybody's joke because they've had to extortions you know, in in ten years or so, whatever. It's been when Pitino got extorted by by the woman, so yeah, I'm not pretty, all right. Well listen, appreciate everybody joining us as usual. Riding Jimmy podcast, will be back next week and the real playoffs NBA off will be underway next week Bob. So, we'll have a lot more to talk about and we'll see how these these series is again, Western Conference. I actually think most of the conference's, most of the series is even the Eastern Conference to be intriguing, so can't wait to get going here once we get through the playing around and get to the real deal.

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REShow: Jackie MacMullan  - Hour 1 (05-14-21)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Jackie MacMullan - Hour 1 (05-14-21)

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Hey everybody welcome to this edition of the rich eisen show. I am your humble host I am in a cardigan. I m emmy nominated info vaccinated happy friday every got tom coming on the air on nbc sports on peacock this rich eisen show radio. Affiliate terrestrial siriusxm channel to eleven. Odyssey is a way for you to stream for free As well in your ear gates here for your gate were all about peacock. We are all about our friends at p. Kaku peacock tv dot com to get us every single day and see the beauty. See the magic at richeisenshow. Facebook twitter instagram youtube. Dot com slash. Rich eisen show. I want to hear from you. Eight four four two zero. Four rich is the number to dial. Everybody's had their schedules and their hands of their favorite teams for twenty four. Forty eight hours. We're up we're up for well. It's really about forty eight hours for those who leaked it about twenty four plus for those who actually got it so So for everybody else. End jim nance who got just twenty four hours ago Check it all out. We know that. Jim nance has it might not have every should check that video out. Its you could see it at richeisenshow as well. I posted it. Because i posted it during the During the actual Schedule released show. And the only way i can do it on. My phone is through the rich eisen show at any rate long story. Short We have the schedules. Were all over them. We're going to talk about it with louis riddick and mike florio today of espn monday night. Football and pro football talk As well and Part of the reason that we're having mike florio on is because didn't i tell you that it was awfully quiet in the city of houston. There was an awful quiet. Calm about shawn watson. His lawyer and the lawyers The for The accusers of deshaun watson and it had been awfully quiet. I said i'm reading the tea leaves to say there's been some sort of settlement talk. That's gotta be a settlement talk going because the lawyer for the The accusers shawn watson. is Is somebody just takes to instagram posts. A lot like he's a sixteen year old in in high school and Sure enough there's a new post today from From lawyer tony busby saying that the concept that he was the one to approach to shawn watson for a settlement is Is off target or a used. Mike del tufo vernacular. Actually the last words of his post was my ass so or unless he watched unless you watch. Jbs move on the show yesterday. Talk about one of his infamous curb your enthusiasm scenes. So there's now arguing back and forth between whether they were settlement talks and if there were who approached who and who wants to stay quiet and who doesn't and i'm not going to get into the whole back and forth. That's why we're gonna have the lawyer. And mike florio onto actually describe what is going on here because to me. This is the crux as to whether to shawn watson can either be a viable quarterback in the nfl or is this thing going to get turned over to criminal charges or not like as a civil case what is it what is going on here and if the shawn watson can play football if he is going to be maybe a suspended player in the nfl for a quarter of a season. What if it's this year. And if that's the case then the drafting of davis mills. He's on the clock and this shawn watson. come back and play the final twelve months for the techs twelve weeks for the texans or does he want out anyway. Does he get out the summer. This is an important for assuming a viable quarterback in the nfl is going to actually have something going on in two thousand twenty one. Which is what. I believe is going to wind up being the case unless of course to shawn watson winds up facing serious criminal charges. Then that's a whole different ball of wax but that's part of the reason why we're having floreal on this program Jack jackie macmullan is i. She wrote an incredible piece In advance of this weekend's pro that's the football. I on me basketball hall of fame ceremonies. That are going down this weekend. Kobe bryant goes into the hall of fame Dunkin goes into the hall of fame. What a what a group garnet correct. Christopher guy goes into the hall of fame the big time class a. We already had mike breen on earlier this well. It's it's it's last year's class and this year's class finally getting its induction ceremony. This is what we're going to see this summer At the pro football hall of fame and the speeches started yesterday to make sure they all get in for the pro football hall of fame For baseball hall of fame. The i i think what are they just on duct anybody right. The just nobody gets in because they're voting process. Sorry sorry nobody gets in right only only one shilling sockets in so at any rate the basketball hall of fame ceremonies are this weekend and she wrote a remarkable piece about about a text that jordan received from kobe. The last text received from kobe. Because michael jordan is the one who's inducting koby bryan into the hall posthumously. This weekend and we'll talk about what's going on in the association with jackie macmullan as well Tell you what you know. I go back and forth on whether i like this Whether i like this plan game or not. Oh yeah. I do because right. Now i'd love to basically say with all due respect to the memphis grizzlies and san antonio spurs you know. I'd rather have your seven seed be lebron and your eight seed. Be golden state right now. The conversation if there was no plan would be can the grizzlies in the warriors. You know what would that be. Who will be eight or nine going into the final weekend that would be the drama essentially but with the plane tournament. Thanks to the play in tournament. There's now a drama at five six and seven as well. Mavericks are right now. Forty one and twenty nine half game in front of the blazers who are now a half game in front of the lakers. But the mavericks are one up in the loss. And you don't wanna fall down a seven because then you play in and the blazers last night had a great comeback on the sons in the fourth quarter and the officials. Blow the whistle on portland is devon booker's out of control in the lane an and it was an Looked me like a nice bailout call from my perspective. And it certainly was from the perspective of damian lillard who chose his words very carefully in the post game press conference only to re tweet somebody who did the carping of the officials on his behalf with the s m f. H retweet coughing. Find for just he could basically say he but he but he but tweeted that. Because it's just four letters you know so. That's up for grabs right now. We're talking about that. As opposed to just an eight nine red. Also what's up for grabs is the top seed in the west phoenix with that win last night. Just one behind utah. So there's that and you know. The clippers are kind of battling it out with the nuggets potentially for three four. I mean the entire seatings of nba western conference. Could be totally jumbled by all the activity in the final three days of the regular season. Sunday is a full day. Everybody's out there and we'll see who plays who and who plays who ran and so we don't see any tanking kind of like what the nfl in the last regular season game where they reconfigure the times to make sure that whoever needs to know a scoreboard. Watch we'll know what the result is before their games or doesn't and things of that nature. So i go back and forth whether i like this playing game because i'd love to see the warriors and i'm sure they're memphis grizzlies like we got the same record as the as the the the warriors so. We should be there as well. But you don't have steph curry to us. Yeah draymond green sprays and then in the east. You've got the first seat up for grabs as well. Sixers losing to the heat last night terribly. I mean that was a big egg. That was laid in south florida by the philadelphia. Seventy sixers in that game was highly entertaining for the fact that you don't as hassle them comes back for the first time. All season gets a standing ovation by the way that when they when they showed the graphic on the tnt coverage last night when they show the graphic on the tnt coverage. eighteen years. With the team. I was like wow. That was a number that was way. Above what i thought. It seems like twenty five to be honest and he comes back and you know immediately. Two and a half minutes into his them standing ovation. First quarter's over second quarter starts. He gets in the grill dwight howard and puts his finger in his face and then gets injected so glad to see a back. The only way a magic miami heat could disappear faster in a in. A home game is to wear the jersey we're wearing and then stand in the paint again. I don't like sounding like a fifty one year old man about these uniforms. Where the knicks a wearing their home whites on the core on the floor against the lakers. And then last night against the spurs wearing some weird blue collar at home to see that last night that wearing like they're kind of road uniform. It's different color of blue and it's just like what the hell are we doing to it and the heat wearing the same color scheme as the paint. And how how i mean. How can you tell whether somebody's been in the paint for three seconds because they disappear. It's that's my mba analysis is. I'm saying you said you don't want to sound like the fifty. No i don't. But i don't care because this is stupid stupid. I'd rather sound old railing against something stupid. Then look young and be silent about something stupid. I'm wearing a cardigan vaccinated but emmy nominated the four five. Six seeds are up for grabs. The hawks heat knicks separately. Just a half game all have thirty one losses. So it's i mean if you want avoid the sixers or the nets right which you probably do in the second round. That's what the next level stuff because you don't have to worry about facing the sixers in the nets in the first round because that's a plan tournament which i'll be honest with you on monday. I love to see russell. Westbrook played more basketball because of how he's plan but celtics hornets pacers wizards with all due respect. You said you're not feeling it but the way you just described. Everything sounds pretty cool. No i'm not feeling it. 'cause i wanna make sure that lebron and and steph curry go through okay. I mean in my telling them he tells nothing i mean. Do they deserve it. Yeah they do why. Because they're lebron steph. And i wanna watch him and so does the rest of the country and abc an nba. Need them to play. Yeah that's a fact. I'm spitting truth here. Man i'm spitting truth and i'll say this i will say this. I will say this everybody. Uh you know everybody got got a taste hearing loss angolese to use the old Vanrell right way of saying this. Sunday's everybody here in this town old taste as did the rest of the country. What the mba and lakers will look like one eventually. The bronze steps out spotlight ok. Everybody loves to hate on them. A lot of people do not everybody. A lot of people love to hate on lebron. I'm staring at one of them right now. You christopher brockman. Everybody loves to hate on him and guy the guy up you know motor on pico boulevard. Who makes a killing more than me. He probably has a fifth floor on his. What manhattan beach marina condo. You'd have to skip bayless. Walk around town mike. I've seen him in his car. Okay very good shirts very nice car. Yes he has made aac killing hating on this man. If the lakers get bounced if the lakers just because of what happens and it won't be all. My god lakers get bounced. That's the story between may eighteenth and may twenty first. What the hell else is gonna talk about between twenty first and the middle of june the rest of be a play off shore but no the ron. Oh okay so yeah. The plan tournament after a shortened regular season that could potentially wind out with lebron getting the gate. And you could say he doesn't deserve it but at least you get if he makes it ten days of a first round game against chris paul and the sun's come on. Now let me ask now. Maybe you'd better get him through. Maybe this a better question for jackie. To if there's the lakers seventeen and they lose to the seed and they lose to the nine ten winter and our out. Do you think the playing is one and done. No i think they love this. I think the league loves even if lebron james now and laying no aren't in the plano because this is making sure people don't tank even though some are tanking to not make the play in tournament that's at least better than people tanking from nine downright. You know you're not and you're also seeing some teams for five and six trying their hardest to not get into this tournament. You're seeing more action towards the end of the season for sure. I think they like that. I think they liked that a lot. But i think owners like mark doesn't like it. You think he likes sitting here. Sweating this thing out right. We haven't heard him say anything about it in a while. I'm sure he doesn't like sweating it out at all so and i'm sure the league is maybe made it known that could have that permissive. Could've pierced the shark tank. Hey let's let's Let's tamp down on that but as you know he's he still. He's still guy that worked at dairy queen at one time which was funny. It was. Let's take a break right here. Oh by the way christina hendricks on this program as well from nbc's good girls season four of that and we are all big huge mad men. Fen a madman fans and certainly fans of her zoomed with christina hendricks yesterday and the contents of that conversation is an hour number three a delightful conversation Louis riddick mike floor but coming up next to talk about the nba and the induction ceremony coming up in springfield massachusetts this very weekend. Jackie macmullan with some great. Kobe stories in great jordan stories. And some great insight as to. What's going on if you will around the horn in the nba. Jackie macmullan here. Next on the rich eisen show. Let's talk about some putting people. Let's talk about the white hot. Og family line of putters. 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When i spoke to genie. She said that she would have you do anything. You'd like for the lakers franchise as you communicated that a pay. She had a even a rumor that you might consider even maybe coming out of retirement to play one. More time for the lakers right. I see you're laughing. There's nothing to that right. There's about a zero percent. Chance that i come back and play so not even like a nothing zero. You're toast finished as a player. That's it did last year at any point with you going through your first season playing basketball and ever not wants to do that is for us. Athletes is really hard to transition. And i was really personal about it. My dear basketball. That is the true challenge of finding what comes next and find something that you love to do every bit as much as you love your first passion. That is a challenge for us. And i think unfortunately for his athletes been pigeonholed into thinking that we can only be one thing so when i retired everybody saying case a competitive. He's not going to know what to do with himself. He's going to have to come back. I took that as a personal challenge of them. I'm this one dimensional person. All i knows how to dribble ball shoot the ball and play basketball and compete at that level to as a personal challenge. I will never come back to the game ever. I'm here to show people that we can do much more than that and creating this business winning an oscar anne. Those are things that are showing other half mathur dono. There's more to this thing. So i would never not even thought the goal. Or e got you want the grammy beyond the challenge became. How do i take lessons. That i learned through the game of basketball. Translate them into building the studio right. Which is things that i can take from the discipline the commitment team community. How do you get the best each other. How do i take those lessons and move those here. That is a challenge. How do we do great work uncompromising great work looking at the bottom line focused on the product for. Is this the best thing that we can possibly make no matter what having that sharp focus something that i got from the game. Hours a special interview for me. Personally guy while i'm met In a Espn commercial break room with him. Buying snacks from machine for sportscenter commercial. All stuart scott. And i sat there and said everything is doing was like jordan. I was the construct of the commercial. Then of course my wife got to meet him covering him here in southern california during the shack. Kobe era cannot believe that he has gone. Just can't believe that he has gone. He's going into the basketball hall of fame this weekend. Were back urine. Our radio show and we just showed an interview that i conducted with kobe bryant in august of two thousand eighteen and again you know like i said Got to know him a little bit better through my wife. Who is covering the lakers. And the Shack kobe fill era. Quite a bit madam again. Kobe bryant on a set of a an espn sportscenter commercial and the construct of that commercial was he was buying chips or snack at one of those vending machines. You know that spins out the snack and you pick it up you know through the slot and stuart scott and i are there just murmuring yourselves break room like whispering how everything he's doing is just like kobe putting the money in like kobe eating chips like jordan these eating chips like jordan and now michael jordan is the one who's going to posthumously. Induct him into the hall of famous weekend and it a beautiful piece on this very subject matter by espn senior writer. Jackie macmullan called the last communication between michael jordan and kobe bryant and jackie kind enough to join us right here on this edition of the rich eisen show. How are you jackie. Been awhile it has been more than there's a lot of people who say that Because it's true. And and i. I appreciate that she. She sends her best to youtube. Jackie so I'll give you the floor on people who may not have seen apiece it is beautiful and it strikes at the heart of the the The sadness but also i guess a commemoration. This weekend is for kobe bryant. I'll give you the floor on on this story about jordan and the the final communication between he and coby. Well i i think rich. Those of us close to the game knew how much kobe reached out. Michael but i'm not sure that jemele fans did And particularly near the end of his career. Kobe was talking to jordan all the time calling them at all hours a day and night and you know michael was the first job at times. It was kind of annoying even because he had made the famous automation. Hey if you ever need anything give me a call and boy. Did kobe call again and again and again and again and so. That's how this relationship became so strong michael's very different From kobe in one way. And you around michael notice. He wasn't big on letting everybody in on what he was up to. He very much kept to himself. He didn't court Journalists the way. Kobe kobe was brilliant at it. I remember when kobe past. How many of my colleagues like well. I was really close with them. Everybody felt like he was kobe. Had that gift to make you feel like you're on the inside right. He was good at that jordan. Much more private so. I think that's why we didn't know the depth of this relationship. I get a one of the final pieces. I did on. Kobe was examining aldborough models. That he had all the people that he looked to to become the best that he could be including michael jackson. You know he was. He was tapping into michael jackson and asking him. You know he went up to never land and asked him about How he learned to you know do smooth criminal and michael. Jackson showed him films of fred stare. And he said you've got to learn from all the greats learn them all the great and so that's what that's kobe did. He called larry bird on the golf course. Very famously went down and spent a weekend with the chemo lajoie and so he could learn out of play out of the post. He hit up dr j. And of course magic and jerry west and all the great Lakers that he was around as a young player and And of course he hit up jordan. And i think Jordan to him with we want it to be. You wanted to be better than jordan. And jordan crane view him as his little brother. And i thought the most piece that i did the other day. The thing that i thought was most interesting. While the final texas heartbreaking for all of us right thing that i that jumped out at me. That michael said was i think. Kobe was mentally tougher than me. How many people can say that and jordan. I don't imagine he'd say about anybody else. And i said well what do you mean by that. And he said listen he wanted to be me all. My fans disliked him for it. They said stop trying to copy the greatest of all time. You're never gonna get there. And he didn't listen he just put his head and continue to do that anyway. Because they're games were so similar. And so that to me was quite an admission from the great michael jordan. Who who obviously is gonna be here this weekend. And we'll stand up on stage with. Vanessa got kobe into the hall of fame. Jackie macmullan here on the rich eisen show again. That pieces is on. Espn plus The last communication between jordan and bryant you know and It did hit me. Just the fact that he's saving this right he just won't and and it was sent in december while i mean people in your life. Jackie i'll i'll share with you since you brought that up. I was literally sitting here. Thinking do i shared. I still have the last. I love the last voicemail that my dad sent me on my phone and You know. I wanna race that you know and and and and so Y just walk me through. You know jordan's thought process of keeping it is obviously we all have that and it was sent to december right the december four. He passed yet. December eight th. The holidays and jordan got texted It was right around noontime about twelve. Eighteen and kobe said something like others. Tequila is awesome. Because you know jordan had started. That's the coral label with Actually with jeanie buss of the lakers and wick prospect of the celtics and west edens of the box. They had all kind of combined to do this This great tequila and he had sent koby bottle of at the launch and he said oh thank you good sure family good. Yep yep everybody's good and jordan just got a real kick out of the fact that. Kobe was coaching gee-gee. He just thought that was wonderful and like anything. Kobe does had thrown himself into it so we decided to have a little fun. You know as you said so. We'll catch you know happy holidays. And what's what's this about coach. Kobe said you know you know man and he said. I'm sitting here on the bench right now. We're blown them out. Forty five to eight. And that was the last communication between them and as as jordan said the reason i saved. It's just typical kobe. Just the competitive of him and how much. Kobe had really wrapped himself up family in his retirement. You know it's funny when it's not funny. But when kobe path i was skiing actually with my family my my daughter lives in colorado and literally stranger came up to me on the mound to tell me i didn't know i had my phone in my my ski jacket but i was looking at. It was on vacation and when he told me of course i went inside my blown up so i left him out. Went home to write. And i started calling around and so many of the people that i would guess koby sorta close to said you know i was close to him but really he had thrown himself into family circle with small. It was very very small. And i remember. I texted michael that day. And i said look. I know. this is really hard. what are you thinking. They said to devastated. I have no words because he was part of that inner circle. It's kind of crazy to jackie though. I just remember because that was part of the last dance of kobe and madison square garden. You know waving. Karl malone off the blocks at that all star game right and and and moment but it. It was and how you know at the time that the brashness of kobe at the beginning. And you're you're kind of pulling back the curtain. A bit about how he was reaching out to a bunch of people including jordan. But you know at the time it it it was kind of like you know. He was crashing away. You know in a goat party you know. And now he's getting into the hall this weekend with jordan posthumously. Inducting him. And i'm i'm wondering what you think colby would would think of the class going that he's going in with you know. Obviously not the mayor. But what do you think he would think of this best. You can tell. Jackie well. I think i think he would be very pleased to go in with someone who's intensity was off the charge much much like colby was and then someone like. Tim duncan who had a sort of wise mr the way he played the game evolved over time into a different player. Which is something kobe did. I think he would have had great respect for that. I would argue. This is the most star-studded hall of fame class ever with those three in it and So i think he would have enjoyed his place in it. I think kobe have stolen the show. Even though he's not here he's gonna still show. That brass michigan talked about. I really turns some guys off in the beginning riches urine call including shack shocking. To begin with like young. Hey young fell away to turn. My team had shot filming very famously. Told me a story wants that. Kobe was going out shooting. Hot dogging and del harris was the coach and pull them out and sam down the end of the bench and one of Jerry buses friends came out of stanton said quote him back in. I mean that's the kind of stuff they were dealing with. You know it was Jordan right you mentioned in the piece that you referenced that people forget. It didn't happen all right away for. Kobe was not rookie of the year. Averaging thirty minutes a game. That's not how it went. You had the way turn. He had you know he played limited minutes. He had to earn it and he did and he did it all on his and eighteen year old kid on a team with guys that were savvier more mature and and like to have some fun at his expense at times. You know he was a kid. And so when you think about that in jordan. The word jordan used with self-made. I think it just makes you admire what he was able to accomplish on the basketball coast. Jackie macmullan here on the rich eisen show. Espn senior writer and And also we see Jackie on so many. Espn shows right here on the rich eisen show. What do you think jordan speech is going to be like. What do you think well you know. I'm not sure in the end. But michael is going to be the one doing the talking There's been talk now. That perhaps the is gonna do the actual talking and I think jordan will probably have some little bit of sadness but also released. He was very concerned about Containing his emotions as as everyone remembers at the staples center memorial. You know jordan didn't couldn't contain as emotions didn't even try Website through the whole thing. And i would imagine it would be similar here this weekend. so he may not end up. Being the person that speaks on behalf of kobe. Maybe that his wife vanessa decides to do that but either way you know i just i just got here a little while ago and it's all anyone is talking about. Is kobe. the emotions of someone dying so young and you know the tragedy of that helicopter crash with so many people died so young not just koby not just g g know there were other teenagers young parents on that flight. The you know the pilot was. I don't think even fifty years old a lot of people died young in that during that tragedy and that was like to mention the other people that lost their lives day because their lives are no less important than kobe's there and i think coby and g would be the first to say that we'll said jackie macmullan well said And then you know that that will obviously be quite a remarkable moment And i'm assuming who else is gonna be there. Who else are we hearing. That's going to be there for because this is also Two classes combined and so many people who want to be there and Good cd's change. You know made made their ruling on thursday. That may be more and more people might be more comfortable coming now. I don't know last minute. I'm just throwing all this together. I don't yeah i don't. I don't think that's possible rich. This thing has been planned for so long and I you know i've been doubly vaccinated for months but i had to still present a negative test when i checked in here today. Masks on everywhere You know this is one of the most coveted tickets. Probably in hall of fame history in some regards and because the cove they moved it out of springfield to mohegan sun where they can socially distance a little more effectively. One of the great events of enshrinement weekend is they always have this pre-ceremony cocktail party which is just. It's my favourite weekend. Because you know you. You bump into sam jones and oscar robertson and You know whoever else All you know spencer hayward who's a regular hair and just a terrific guy. You always happy to see him and And those those creamy ceremony receptions are going to be split up into six different restaurants. You can't even have everybody all in the same place so it's gonna be a very different feel to it But you know when. I when the actual enshrinement ceremony happens on saturday. Everybody's going to be under one roof. And it's it's i'm really looking forward to it and i'm going to be there as a spectator on saturday. Not as journalists. I'm going to be there is What and seeing three guys that i covered closely rudy tomjanovich accords boy while You know covered extensively on so happy for him to get in the great to make a catching sustaining. And then someone that people should know more about her name is barbara stevens week. Decarlo party stephen. She was the bentley college coach in West in waltham mass. Not at all from where. I grew up actually actually recruited my sister when she was at clark university in worcester so i've been following. Barbara's career for many years. Very well deserved she's got over. One thousand career wins. She's probably the named people don't know but should know from this class to. She's well deserved to be part of this. You know really elite group. It's it's going to be fantastic. I'm i'm really looking forward. I'm glad you giving me that perspective. Jackie i just I'll be honest. I just got really emotional. Hearing you mentioned to me catching for some reason and that is also just haptic right but the fact is that you know kobe. Bean a girl dad and and what what what what. Women's and girl's basketball meant to him as well certainly in the final years of his life. I think he would be like over the moon that he's going in with bad is because the covert because this. This ceremony had to be delayed. It's normally in september. You know the nba and full throttle here. So for instance. And i haven't talked to dock so i don't know doc rivers has a game today and then has a game on sunday. Is he gonna try to you. Know to in here to be here cagey is it even possible. Does it make any sense. 'cause you know doc would love to be here. I don't know if i've ever talked to. Doc rivers about cagey without him choking up. That's how much he of course seriously they just you know he knows the g. was the heart and soul of that two thousand championship team. And then now. You've dug gregg popovich and i haven't looked at their schedule. But greg pop you can. Tim duncan where synonymous with one. Another probably similar to tom. Brady and bill belichick. And there's a very good chance i'm guessing. He can't possibly get his team. I'm looking at. I'm looking at saturday schedule. And phoenix's at san antonio. That's pretty we're not gonna have significant team in the western conference standings and then that's the way that's the only shame of it. You know it normally. This event is held when the nba is idle right. And it's a shame. Because i think more players you know. Current players have loved to have been here so many of them revered kobe. So much you know from i mean. Name 'em kevin durant kyrie irving all those guys. They've spoken eloquently. How much Kobe men to them jamal. Murray i did a store. Jamal murray earlier in the year and he was talking about being invited to kobe camp and it was just a life changing experience for him. So i think many of those guys Chris paul a lot another one if they could be there they would but they can't you know. This is the final weekend of really bizarre. Nba season. we're playing games Matter and almost no team hardly any teams out of it and so it's You know won't be quite the same help you out on this one. There's just too sixers home games wrapped around the ceremony. And if if protocols can right if protocols can be followed maybe doc we'll do it and it's interesting on boston at minnesota. So to cagey franchises that he is synonymous with will. They're playing each other before. I let you go. Gimme i mean dunkin speeches an over under like less than five minutes. You got that for me. Don't you know it's going to be the most hilarious one of all. What are you gonna wear. I mean he's not gonna wear tuxedo right. You're gonna wear a suit and tie. Is he gonna button up. I one time. I don't know i i can't wait. I mean to me endlessly fascinating because he's so tremendously talented but also just because he was just such a quiet superstar and never really get to do in my opinion because he the greatest power ford of all talk. You can make that case the big fundamental here so you know and then Last one k. G. speech i that one i i need to you know. Find out if. I can see that one live so right that you shouldn't get close to it because like you might get the fiddle only does things fast and furious. That's the only way he knows how to go about things. So i think it'll all be. It's all going to be great. Jackie i appreciate the inside again. A beautiful piece that you wrote about kobe jordan and let's I'd love to have you back on during the playoffs. Let's let's talk some hoops with thank. You enjoy the weekend. Jackie macmullan here senior writer and contributor in common tater for espn analyst. Right here. I don't know why to make catching she just hearing her name. Got me really emotional. Because i know what what How the world had kind of opened up for kobe's a girl dead and what was going on his world when When it came to a stunning awful and and garnett going in dunkin straight there will be great it really and it's something i'm also interested in because this is the first hall of fame ceremony back in person to yeah. You know actually rich you said that was combined. I think this is just the twenty twenty class. And they're going to do the twenty one later. this call. Is that right. Because i thought the twenty twenty one is wilpon or their bulletin names starting the week out for twenty twenty one but the official announcement is supposed to be until monday for the twenty. Oh okay yeah great. Well we'll bounce can be there 'cause he's going in with bring awesome new broadcasting eight four four two or for rich two. Oh four rich number to dial we're gonna have an nfl fame conversation based on who's birthdays today in our poll questions about that eight four four two four riches the number if you want to have a chat with us too. I wanna play celebrity. True false with you terry. Crews were some stuff from some previous interviews of yours in an on. Imdb pages and stuff. I want to know what's true. And what's not true or false terry. Crews your first job was as a sketch artist for a local news station in the eighties. True or false that is true. I started sketching the station. And they put me on the worst murder case in flint michigan history. I was in the courtroom. I did the courtroom sketches. Did you see the sketch. Artists that From the deflategate case with tom brady read. Oh my god no come on now. You've probably was hungry angry Another one you worked on bodyguard for cube before he cast you on friday after next true but the bodyguard sal sexy a security guard like i had a t shirt with flashlight bodyguard south and all that. No no it was. I was like watching a car. You may make sure my car stays. And i have my battery the but this thing i made sure all my little polo shirts were really tied up. Good the on medium all medium shirts and they were like look so amazing and then he you put you in then. He put me in friday after next. What was your role in training day. Oh i was credited gang member that was it i was walked on the set to washington's at work and director antoine for quasi hey man opportunities me down. I was like okay okay. So he's take your shirt off my shirt off. And i was the guy on the roof. That was Pigeons and the whole thing denzel came down just walked on the set. Denzel were a friend who was like location guy by doing security. Yeah and he was. I mean you wanna watch tonight see this is the thing lot of your success just comes from proximity you know what i mean you can be broke anywhere. I decided to be broken. La a lot of great things. I was fine man. By the way. I think myles garrett had the same look browns colors in that no and that also that yoked up look in his velvet suit that he was wearing just like terry crews right. There bust out of that thing though is fun. We're gonna have a celebrity true or false with christina hendricks big time stuff with her Mike florio will be joining us in about fourteen minutes. Time louis riddick in the middle of number two. He already tweeted up about a big day for him that he's upgraded audio visual equipment in his home. And it's very very excited about it. So he got rid of the disc man is upgraded from to date. Jets is a good one man bay memorex it live or memorex could entail. Tell by the tape. Now we're back here on the rich eisen show with our radio audiences. Well girls five ever is a new show. That's right here. Peacock original with a fantastic cast. Lots of fun right here streaming right now on peacock so many different new shows originals movies. Tv force our live channel. Nbc sports on peacock. i follow dan. Patrick show every single day. Check it all out on peacock. Tv dot com get peacock. Who a free right here on the rich eisen show okay. Christina hendricks in our number three. She's on good girls. I have a a A good Fund zoom time chat with her going to tune in for that. We'll play celebratory false and more poll question. Christopher involves a birthday today involving somebody that you like to talk about and not in a very Flattering waco for chris. I don't know if that's an appropriate way to frame this okay It's frank gore thirty eighth birthday today. Tj what prop. What better way. Should i frame it. I don't know how what did i say. That was an improper way of setting things. I honestly don't know that you could have done better gestures based upon what we know about chris and his feelings towards stance or convenient truth. I don't like to talk about frank gore. Because i only like to talk about hall of famers so what am i saying. I mean that's all okay crisco fort. Which player most deserves to make the pro football hall of fame now. All of these players were recently retired. Frank gore as an officially retired. But he is a free agent at the moment at age. Thirty eight at age thirty his running in college right now. University of pittsburgh frank gore the basic frank gore. Eli manning philip rivers. Julian edelman moses eighty. He's a lot of people who think all of them should be and none of them should be in one of them should be two of them should be in ally allies one twice be. I'm wondering this about allies hall of fame candidacy. Will it be potentially tom. Brady's ultimate revenge in the fact that the two times that ally has beaten tom. That used to be the metric. By which you're in hall. You've won twice quarterback. You've won twice as a quarterback that gets you in the hall of fame and if it hasn't been you know it is only a matter of time right. Okay that used to be the metric by which you get was now now because brady is one so damn many of them seven. Does that now raise the bar. That gotta win three to get no brady's own planet. He's in a nominal. it's now now now. Forward right now doesn't even get now two-dozen even get you one third of the way to the most of anybody. That's one to used to be half to us to be halfway. That's why it was like a metric by which you're in the hall of fame you've won twice. You are in the hall of fame. Kurt went three times one once in his three times that he played in the super bowl. He was the most prolific single game passer in super bowl history. The second most and the third most until tom brady knocked him out of the top two spots of that in a couple of his appearances in recent memory not second goal not in the second goal round pushing forty in an over. Forty is what he's done. So i'm just saying that or that's one son making the case for eli manning. Because i think he should be okay so but you know and i say this because my my my opinion has evolved on. Eli oh my buddy. Doug robinson who's not i think he's on the east coast normally. He's driving around here and he's listening to me. And he's a dead diehard giant fan and one even he does not think eli first ballot hall of famer and i used to say first ballot. I don't think about is going to be first balanced. Don't think so either. I don't think so. I don't think at demanding brothers bus will be talking to each other forevermore at some point yes but i'm making the case for ally here in the same way that i said brady's one so many that it's going to mess with the concept of twos usually the metric the resume builder for you to get in the hall and can the facto. The brady's so many does that make that less than or he. The fact that so many and that allies beaten him twice preventing him potentially from approaching double digits and the perfect season. I mean here's my. Does that put you in that regard that he was able to beat brady in this game that he's won seven times twice. Does that mean nick. Foles has a better candidacy as well down the road pizza pie. Okay my my slices okay. Brady has shown pie. he's good. He gets two slices of the pie. That's a lot for the pie in a sense. If you have multiple people yet truly two slices of a pizza high is the third one is the gluttonous exactly the third one when you go in for a speaking to the rest of america here outside of the new york city metropolitan area. We're talking about new york slices exact. We're not talking about these slices that you get in the mid west that literally you could. You could fit in half of your hand okay. We're not talking about that. We're talking about big huge as new york city slices people go for your third one. Yeah it is. it's a choice. Yes it's a choice choice so two slices the stats here. Just throw out some stats. There's a frank gore at sixteen thousand. Exactly career rushing yards as third on the head. It's not sixteen thousand and one thousand. Exactly he has eighty one career rushing touchdowns which is nineteenth all time everyone ahead of him except for four in the hall of fame. He's a five time pro bore. Eli there's only two other human beings in front of him on the all time rushing list. Correct eighth all time passing yards ninth in passing touchdowns philip his fifth in passing yards and passing touchdowns. And he's going to be like i the case for him me. Well dan fouts and he should be in right. You know because that's the the you know super bowl appearances. Xactly just all those yards for like all the yards all the touchdowns playoff appearances elman's claim to fame of course as postseason three times. You both champ. Second time career playoff receptions and yards. Have you posted this. Because i will hit. I have posted it all right. I will hit it right now. I'm on the show patriot here soft to do my phone the break here and then add another Poll questions roberts max's birthday to defame director. What your favorites. America's movie back to the future. Roger who framed roger rabbit forrest gump castaway. Okay like it. It's bronx birthdays. It really grown squirming election. My gosh yeah brock's thirty two today. He's thirty two hurts. He's thirty two. That's it right. He made the hall of fame essentially before he was thirty. S he did unbelievable and then it came back and won. Louis riddick. We're gonna be all of i. I'll ask both of these guys. The poll question whether they figures most deserving enshrinement. I think they're going to choose it running back my friend. You think he'll finish last. I think he's gonna finish. He'll probably finish. I people like him out on mike. Florio louis riddick and you eight four four two zero four rich our to but but again my argument against frank gore and stats compilers. What you're saying but just take him off of this list you can. You can't tell the story of the nfl. Without the other. Three guys got a point. But frank gore. I know you're saying that. You have frank gore never existed. Oh come on nothing. Nothing about the nfl changes if the other three guys don't exist the nfl's a lot different. How does something from today. Rivers phone in that category. What does what does he do that. That changed the nfl before yes. That's your argument then. then what. How can philip rivers even being this conversation. Put a playoff game with no. Acl's frankel ran for a hundred yards and a score in a super bowl. They were one play away like nobody remembers that. Except you to remember for the lights going out. That's actually true. Philip never played in a super bowl. And you're like saying. He had a great playoff game against my team. That's why you remember it. It's not what i said but that's why you'll remember it though. That's not what i said. All right you remember. Because he has no ac on me and he had an incredible game against your patriots. You're both right here philp. They could you could tell the story without but the problem is that i want to have this conversation because it is so negative because they don't like is and so it should not be the merit off. Make it so. It's kind of a moot point. I don't know julianne hough. We wanna take a futures bet on it. I'll take all action aside. Bet with brockman against you guys down the road. He's one of those guys in on the veterans committee to make swanson want just like come on swan. I mean lynn swann. Had i think some regular season numbers that eclipse adamant almonds. I'm not but in houston because of ataman and story they. They don't make lynn swann. Had two of the greatest catches of all time in the same half of a super bowl ad and what was going to use that as a metro. No he's just kind of like it opens the door for a little bit now is just pointing out that lynn. Swann statistics regular season off the top of my head mashed pedestrian. They weren't payton. jump off. Florio is coming up next to talk about what the world's going on with shawn watson lawyer and the lawyers houston and all sorts of stuff. 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Creative Ideas to Bring Basketball Back and Even More Mailbag Questions | The Mismatch

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Creative Ideas to Bring Basketball Back and Even More Mailbag Questions | The Mismatch

"Hey Kelly and welcome to the ringer podcast network. We hope the ringer can provide you entertainment and companionship. During this time so as always feel free to check out the ring dot com where. We're still covering the latest in sports. Pop Culture. Tech and media and the ringers YouTube channel can provide endless amounts of entertainment. You can find that at youtube dot com slash the ringer welcome to the ringer. Nba Show Chris Vernon Jordan. Macey does every Tuesday from the ringer dot com. It's Kevin O'Connor AK Kevin Obamacare. Kevin Climber Kevin Oh candy. Land Kevin O. Concert Kevin O. Conflict Kevin O. Controversy Kevin O. Camera Kevin Bird Out. Did you see one of our listeners? Made A mockup t shirt. I David t shirt with all one of our listeners. Did send does In the mail bag a t shirt that had all of the Kevin owes on there and there were some of them. I had forgotten That we had used. I mean we've been doing it three or four years. I used many of them several times. But there are some that I even forget Over the years so it was nice to revisit some of those I should have thrown them in today. Oh No I know right should just read that one verbatim. I think it was name was hunter. I'm not sure that was the name of the company or his name. But thank you hunter for semi knows. It was really cool to see those. Hopefully we could get we get those made. I don't know we haven't had a a lot of news happened since we last spoke on Friday but there were a few things the first of which was I dunno of you tuned into it at all but I did tune in on Friday night. I just happened to be the channels that. Espn was doing that to K- tournament and the only thing that came out. I don't even know who ended up winning thing but I did watch for a little bit what it was De'andre Eytan and Zach Levine. Playing against each other and then as the days went on Devon Booker was evolved. Dude tell me. You've seen the clip of Devon Booker when I can't remember. His opponent was called him out for not playing with the Suns. Needs LIKE YOU'RE NOT GONNA. He's like you're not. GonNa play with the Suns Endeavor. Booker's like no. I didn't see that he was facing Michael Porter. Drew I'm trying to win away and I'm pretty sure Booker chose the bucks. Yeah but when I was watching eight and versus Levin there was at one point I think it was. I think it was eight in. That said it. Forgive me if it was Levin but it the moment is what I remember so auto subs on and Chris Silva came in for the Heaton a eight and was like who is Silva. Actually this is Kinda why. I've got this thing tuned in I want it to these guys are going to say. There's no there's nothing worse than another. Nba Player. Not knowing that you exist. Who's good I haven't watched? I've just seen the clips online. I I'll I care about. Is the trash talk. I WANNA see Patrick. Beverley doing what he's been doing just talking costs and trash 'cause that was me when I played video games online. I'm just constantly talking. I would tone it down nowadays but back in the day. That's all I love to do so I I like to see players talking trash but who's actually good at. I don't know I honestly don't know and I wouldn't be able to watch it and tell you who's really good. I texted my buddy. Who's who plays all the time and I'm like are these guys really good. And he's I am well. Aren't they also playing on rookie mode? I don't know if they're all right. So the shots get made easier. That may be so juice ball. You know game over the weekend also report that the NBA is talking to several high profile players about putting together some kind of a horse tournament or guy and look. I don't know how this plays out. I don't know how they even pull it off but at this point any programming. If you told me it's on I'll watch it. I think I speak for a lot of people out there right if you told me there's GONNA BE A. Nba Sang Jin Horse Tournament. Going on and it's going to be on at seven o'clock tonight I would. I would certainly at the very least set it up the record. I'd probably be in front of my TV to watch it. Whatever it was so I'm in favor of anything short. Anything that we get will be awesome however I do hope that the players are encouraged to do tricky shots. Exciting shots fund shots rather than what we saw in the Horse Tournament at All Star Weekend and Oh nine and ten that those years it was a snooze fest wrongdoing durant just taken threes from the top of the key to determine the winner. I understand there was a rush because they're running out of time for that but it just wasn't fun to watch and hopefully players make this fun because the the shots that they take is going to determine how exciting it is from a viewer in for themselves for that matter too yep and then regarding sports and when it could possibly resume there was there's a big story in baseball the Bro from Jeff Passan about the possibility of Major League Baseball and the Major League Baseball Players Association putting a plan together that's backed by federal health officials that would basically have players in training camps by May and then Games soon thereafter now. Mlb put out a statement this morning saying nothing's been decided on and Yada Yada Yada but will becomes of interest then is Adam. Silver had spoken Last night in an interview with Ernie Johnson and some of the things he said was Did he know where things stand now? any better than he did when the NBA shut down and he said the short answer is no He said the minimum would be may first before they could really know that would be when anything could possibly even be thought about Starting he said no decisions have been made whether they're gonNA play regular season games or not. If the season resumes he said in an ideal world There would be some regular season games. And he said they've looked a lot that playing games without fans And then he also talked a little bit about the the meeting that they had with President trump and then he talked about you know the thing that was keeping him up at night. Is that fifty five thousand jobs. The League creates including all of its Game Day workers that those those people are going without right now Now a lot of these teams have taken care of them. But look the we're we're about to be where the season would be ending and we're about a week from that where the season would be ending in the playoffs. Be Starting and so it feels like you know in one sense with that. Mlb story the same we'll go for the NBA and the same go for every other sport. And that is the advent of rapid testing and that is the only thing that matters in all of this is the ability to test and the ability to not have the appearance or rather the the reality of a bunch of professional athletes getting preferential treatment when people around the CO the country Don't have access to test. And so hopefully you know the sooner the better but the sooner you get rapid testing the sooner more things become a possibility right. I mean rapid testing is going to be one of the keys are reported last month that forget any games to resume in the NBA. They would need to have players coaches other team personnel executives trainers whoever it may be regularly. I mean that might be two or three times a week your having the full tests. Which is what's going to give you one hundred percent definitive results. The rapid tests is something that you would do like maybe each day and that's a lot of tests for for a lot of people that are necessities and to be there in this bubble and whatever they theoretically want to build It's this is a lot to ask for baseball. It's a lot to ask for basketball. Who knows a forget to that point? And that's what. Mlb said this morning in their statement. That's what Adam. Silver said last night that they are not in a position right now to make any decisions they can only plan ahead and any anything that comes isn't going to happen until we have more clarity next month than the month after that in one of the notes and Jeff Passan's call him and his reporting about an lbs. He noted that for Baseball. They could build this quote UNQUOTE BUBBLE IN ARIZONA. All thirty teams there and all the other personnel for three to four weeks of training camp and if all worked out after those three to four weeks then they would approve the play of games and I would assume based off my conversations with people around the League is that a similar thing would happen in the NBA. You would get players together in whatever city or cities that game action would happen for their training camp part two and if all is well in terms of testing in terms of their be that there's no community spread within teams and players. Then you can approved games. That's taking it one step at a time and even though Jeff Passan's reporting it made it made it out made it sound like things are a bit more definitive like this is what's going to happen. It's actually just a plan. They they can only look so far ahead. And that's also what we're GONNA find out in the coming weeks maybe months with the NBA as well one step at a time. Yup One other thing. Congratulations I I guess. It's probably that he wasn't expressed it right. Now it's probably chicago-sun-times fault but they're out of nowhere as I'm scanning through news articles. Yesterday I read this thing about Lauri. Markkanen wants out of Chicago. Nice timing like nothing is going on. There's no season going on the Chicago sometimes. Put out this story about how he's one unhappy Camper and before the NBA suspended. It's easy because of the corona virus outbreak. The report said so much that if the direction of the organization was GONNA stay unchanged he'd rather be elsewhere and I was like what in this is just bizarre. You know I had heard the I heard the I had heard the inverse Chris back in November or December. I had heard that it was the bulls. Coaching Staff Taoist. Souring bit on Lauri Markkanen ingesting. So if you're putting these two things together maybe there's just some disagreement from the coaches and the executives and lowery. What his role should be and look. Lowry is a talented prospect. Talented offensive player. He's also had until recently when games last played he was really struggling but he's also hurt too and he's always been hurt. You know throughout his career so for the Bulls and lowery. It's very possible that they're just not a fit together. Based off the way Boylan or perhaps the Bulls Front office wants to build this thing out. And if that's the case that's the case for lowery there's better fits out there better. Opportunities out there for the Bulls may be whatever they could potentially get in return for him makes more sense for their vision of the team. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing that lowery might also see that because I think the team does too. It's just surprising that had happened to leak at this time. Last thing that we want to get to is the basketball hall of fame it did announce their class and what a class it is going to be with Kobe Bryant. Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett headlining. The group also four time national coach of the year from Oklahoma State. Eddie Sutton and Eddie has been in poor health and so I'm I'm very glad that Eddie Sutton is getting into the basketball hall of fame. And hopefully he'll be able to enjoy that on a hall of fame weekend also our all star weekend when they honor everybody Two time NBA champion Rudy Tomjanovich. Also a ten time. Wnba ALL-STAR Olympic gold medalist to make a catch ings. Kim Mulkey from Baylor Got in Barbara Stevens and longtime phoebe executive Patrick Baumann so The headliners Garnett Koby. And Duncan I mean they clearly marked time in NBA history and to have those three guys who are through the greatest players of all time. It is obviously so sad. That Koby won't be there For the ceremony But that's a that's an unbelievable class and especially for so many people Spanning from my age to your age that grew up on those guys I mean think about this class for the NBA. Right you have Kevin Garnett. Kobe Bryant Tim Duncan these are probably three of the ten twelve fifteen greatest players of all time going into the same hall of fame class. It's remarkable and you know I. I think about whatever that ceremony is going to happen. I mean that's scheduled for August. Who knows if we'll if the world will be in a position where you can have groups of people in a room together at that point but whenever the ceremony happens it's definitely going to be emotionally charged day and I am? I look forward to hearing Cagey speak. I look forward to seeing Tim. Duncan open up a guy that has been so quiet over the years. I just sad that we won't get to hear from Kobe though I look forward to hearing the tributes in the words from others on that day whenever that day comes and I look forward to that day man. The mail bag has continued to be truly unbelievable We have gotten questions from all over the world and we have gone through some the last couple of weeks. We still have more to get to that. We have widow through Today Isaac Lee makes a triumphant on believable. Thought you were done with us forever only up an international a world pandemic bring you back to the back as it's good to be back. It's good to fill in for Bobby. Who's the exceptional job since I left the show and honestly I'm looking at these mailbag questions and men? Your listeners are smart man yet. Listeners know what exactly what makes good content? That really happened since bobby took over though listeners. Zero for the two years I've put in the show we we dealt with a bunch of dummies during your time but now we got Mensa members everywhere. We've got people from the London chapter of Mensa that are sending. Us question the cutoff to listen to this. Podcast you're you're accu has two hundred thirty and higher. I don't even I don't even what is a good? How don't even I don't even? I'm just saying okay. Good three three describing. I Q yes. All of us are dumb. All three of them. Yes all right so what we got this week. Let's start with the question from Ben if the MBA were to expand thirty two teams. What two cities would each of you choose? And why with an addendum of from jared and a few of the people is there a world that the sod are back in the next three to five years? Oh I think there's probably a world where that exists I don't know you know. I worry that if they expand that it is going to be something more more global right. They've been doing these things and Mexico City they've talked to Adam Silver's obviously Got His sights set on expanding. Maybe outside of the continental United States Within the United States of my head I would say Seattle for sure. Seattle one hundred. Yes I mean. That's a rich rich history. You Know Maybe Vegas you know. They've already got a foothold in their hell. They may end up completing the whole season out there Summer Leagues become a big deal out there and they already got an NFL team so like the whole wall towards having professional sports. There's been kind of broken down Kansas City you know is a big market. That doesn't have one and it's in the Mid West team And I know that there's a lot of people Kansas City that would really like to have over. Yeah I mean look. They had one once upon a time And Yeah it's a huge huge city. Seattle's obviously the look especially with all the money and all the tech. That's gone on there You you certainly. You've got enough insanely wealthy people to pull that one off and build their own arena. And that's not even a a mess anymore I kinda think did they might not expand within the states and you also have to wonder about the long term viability of of of the teams. Anybody that's in a small market is always at some level of risk whether you're Charlotte Memphis any anybody right for from I'm talking long term Unless you have you know I I will just speak to this because obviously I've been covering Memphis for such such a long time. You know when you have ironclad leases and when the city pays for and funds in arena than in those contracts you get to have right of first refusal and in a city like this. You would never lose your team because the rich people in the town would step up and make sure you keep the team. But that's part of you know that's that's part of the the Yin and Yang of of of signing. These deals right like if you if you decide that it is going to be taxpayer. Funded to build an arena than the one of the bonuses up. That is that somebody can't come near. Move the move it out. You know you've got twenty year leases twenty five year leases and the NBA. Doesn't want to set that precedent because they let teams leave because of no public funding Because they set the precedent that hey you know you'll publicly funded then you're going to be able to get a team because this other market won't and so anybody that's like you know the smaller markets as always at risk but in terms of expansion. I Dunno Kev. I kinda worried that if we get expansion in the NBA probably wouldn't be within the continental United States. But maybe I'm wrong. I mean I don't worry about that. I think they could end up being a good thing. If you have a team in Mexico City I think that could be really great for the League and it would not be shocking if that's part of their long-term vision it's like we talked about with planning ahead on the schedule with zooming games by having G. League team in Mexico City. It's trying to foster a fan base. That's creating a place where neutral site games could potentially be played and maybe in the distant future ten years from now if expanses expansion is back on the table again then Mexico City could potentially be a more appealing option. Otherwise as you mentioned. There's there's so many other Seattle is a no brainer. Vegas of course could be an option as well Vancouver you could think about Louisville Kansas City. There's a handful of cities out there that makes some sense but to answer the original question. Seattle for shore Ben And the second one I would choose. I like to see a team in Vancouver two more teams on the West Coast. I think Vegas is best for neutral site games and I would say the same from Mexico City at least for now but we'll see how that changes over this decade. Well before we move on let me just give a quick shout out to the sonic boom. Podcasts podcast that are produced along with a few others here at the ringer last year about the Seattle Supersonics in how the moved from Seattle to Oklahoma. And how you know. There's a possibly that they'll come back to just you know. Check that out. If you can't what else are you GONNA do That's unbelievable Promo in fact anybody that is promoting some level of entertainment attack. Line should be. What else are you going to do? We're ready for the next question but first we have to hear from today's sponsor today's episode of the mismatch is brought to you by Ziprecruiter. Right now we cannot be overwhelmed. Behalf the work to keep our loved one safe and protect our communities. We have to work to stay strong. Stay connected to stay focused. We have to work to inspire to innovate build new solutions. But for all of this to work we have to work together at Ziprecruiter. 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Imagine if he didn't have to miss one out of every four games I guess it's co- I mean we don't know if he does it just to amp up for the play offs or is it necessary. You know because it's not like we're going to get any kind of information like what? What is the world like that is played every single game? We don't know but the short answer. I mean the Brian is a freak. Oh he could. You guys played one hundred games for the last fifty years until he shows that he's unable to do that. And I also think that like I also sense and I'm sure Kawais this way too but don't use sense that Lebron James is going to be the guy that comes back bigger and more ripped up and in the best shape of his light like some of these guys are GonNa get lazy and not do all that much. I feel like Lebron. James has used this time probably as an offseason to just get into peak condition though. Lebron did say recently that this is the time of year where he starts really ramp up for the play offs and not getting to do that. It's going to. It's going to change things for him. So who knows what happens with Lebron? Obviously he's GonNa be in peak condition to his false abilities when I read. That question are heard that question. I was thinking well. How were they helped? I mean how is help from other players on his team getting healthy Lou Williams recently had was dinged up a little bit. Eighty obviously has the the arm injury. So these guys you know indirectly help Lebron and Kawhi respect the all by getting healthy over time this would also say it's not just. The whole clipper team. I mean you can speak to this. As a Clipper Fan Isaac. It wasn't until recently I mean I was watching a game a couple of weeks ago and they said it was the first game this year. They had their entire roster healthy. Yeah like yes sham. It and everybody and they've used more starting lineups than any team in the league. So it's them the them they. They've been injured all year. Yes something that a phrase that's been thrown out within clips fan circles. Is that the only consistency. This year has been inconsistency and to actually have a healthy squad and they were really ramping up before the whole pandemic and of course. Nbs suspended just when the Clippers are hitting their stride thing is look at Bob. Dole hasn't been the beacon health either. Yeah I'm getting all this time off to. I mean you got. It's both of them. I mean the same path. Same it loo- will. Yeah but I mean like the ad and Lebron have been way healthier than George and Kunai this year. You know who this could potentially help most though in the West Houston. James Harden typically gets tired towards the playoffs because he's carrying a heavy load towards the end of the season. Same Russell Westbrook to those guys. Carry such a load over the full year and now they're getting some time off but before games could potentially resume. I wonder if this injects more energy in them for that. Short and season short and playoff run. Whatever it ends up being. I look at a guy like that had a heavy heavy workload over. The course of the year could help them out to PG Tucker not to mention PJ Tucker playing center you know all those minutes getting banged down in the post like is definitely gonNA help for him to get a break while he's also the kind of guy that is susceptible to coming in twenty pounds heavier than what he was. Pj puts on weight quick now. He gets into shape as the season goes on. There's going to be guys that come back. That are just not in shape at all. Trust me you see it every year and now I mean it's hard right now you have to be severely self-motivated wait. When's the last time? Pj Tucker came in overweight. Two years ago member it was a huge thing on our show. I told you I saw them in the preseason huge then two months later he was leaned out. I don't remember the argument but I I it was because I call I called. Pj Tucker Fat. I just seen him mini boobs. The whole nine months four months two months later he was leaned out. I love PJ Tucker. I love him. But I mean he. He was not in shape. I feel like if we are if you said that on the podcasts ability. I would've disagreed with you. Probably turned into an argument with me saying no. Pg attackers and shape you're wrong is sub body shaming the argument. Is that from two sixty two to forty you know or whatever I mean. The guy's a truck anyways next question aright from Peter de top five teams to never win a title with the addendum from jared. What is the greatest finals? Losing Team of the twenty first century so two questions there all right well. You're learning the grit and Grind Grizzlies. Let me let me do this because I am going to switch this up. Okay look I am aware of the history of the NBA. Jerry West went to the finals. Thousand Times lost them all I. I'm sure you know those teams. There are many teams throughout the fifty sixty seventy s That could be on the list to me. I'm not going to speak with authority on some of these teams. That obviously video footage is sparse and I would be going on the historical chronicles of others right like to me. That's not necessarily fair what I can't speak to is teams that I have seen over the years and the first one that you know. What's funny when you said that? I'm not going to give you a five. I can't list you five but I'll tell you the first one that came to my mind your four you get four. We can only count the four. Oh no that I loved. That immediately came to my mind. Were the kings teams with Weber pasia. Yes Bibi a you know Doug Christie. The they've got their heart on my mind too. I think their heart redoubt and a team that you know look history. There's GonNa be a book that people can go read Jack McCallum seven seconds or less But that's unseen with the Mari and and Steve Nash and and Mary in that whole group the one that you know the suspension against the Spurs. If that doesn't happen. Is that a different story. I mean look you gotta remember Amare. Stoudamire was getting like she's thirty and twenty against him. Don't get in playoff games. Like this guy was he was. He was as good as anybody in the entire. Mba at the highest level against the best guy and so they had. They had the juice and they had obviously the MVP Playing Point Guard. But those were the first to that. I think I can speak to with authority and saying those teams in another dimension are NBA championship caliber teams. I'll give you two more so we can get to four the early twenty tens Oklahoma City thunder with Kevin Durant Russell Westbrook James Harden That trio of MVP's Bay. They were a great team. They're young team but they were a great team. Won Sixty Games in two thousand twelve two thousand thirteen thousand a championship. Caliber team Losing today but they were young. There's young just young but still one of the greatest teams didn't win a title though when you think about three hall of famers on the same team remarkable and then another team from this past decade the twenty eleven twenty twelve Chicago Bulls come to mind when Derrick rose tore his acl in the first round and they lost the sixers that might not qualify as greatest team. That's ever won a title. But I do think about that year. For Derrick rose and how he was producing it in the port of having great players in the postseason. They're a team. That would have went a lot further than they ended up going because of that injury. Yeah I mean look the easiest one the greatest. I think if it's not the greatest team ever certainly they would be people could argue. But it's at fifteen sixteen warriors team of core individual team. Either seventy three and nine. Yep You know an and they law so that team's gotta be up there. When I was a kid the Sonics team I thought of of the Bulls opponents that Sonic's team with Gary Payton and And Shawn Kemp that group was. I mean they had a bunch of guys. Nate McMillan was on that team Kendall Gill Sam Perkins that shrimp also that Son's team with Barclay and and K J and the Jazz Utah. Utah Jazz got knocked off too so I mean the early nineties Knicks to you know. The ewing led teams those teams. There's some great great knicks teams in that group. That you know were no gain. Sometimes a shot away from a whole different story being written about them. So that would be the we. We got the certainly over five And most remember those fun teams. We liked right like the the kings the sons the warriors those teams were all fun to watch to know philosophy clippers. All right. It's fine. Oh one one more. That just came to mind because I was on my mind gets. Kevin are not getting inducted into the hall of fame. Celtics obviously won the finals in. Oh wait but that Oh eight oh nine. Celtics team was better until Cagey got hurt in the postseason. Yeah we probably would have had a Celtics Lakers trilogy in the Finals Yup Right Perkins. Turning into certain ten. Okay here after. So but you know we probably would have had a celtics-lakers trilogy had cagey not gone her. That Celtics team in Oneida was ridiculous. So that's another team that comes to mind from from recent years all right next question. This is from Megan. Where's the first place you want to visit after? Cova nineteen is over is Makino my answer. It's Boone by Shelia in Los Angeles California is again took me there for the first time last. March in twenty nineteen and is really a life changing experience for me in terms of broadening. My my taste buds enjoying enjoying communal dining eating with friends and enjoying a dish together. And I just. I've brought friends there over the past year. Many Times I've Gone Solo many times and that's a place that I truly love. It's it's it's it's three thousand miles across the country away from my home in Brockton Massachusetts but with L. A. Being my new home that that makes me feel at home just going in there and enjoying food with friends and loved ones so I look forward to the day. When restaurants open back up and people able to dine together with family and friends and and have that experience I look for. I look forward to going with with you. Isaac next time we get to go to spoon the two the two things I would say inner Rena with fans. I miss that so greatly I did. I love going to games. I love it and I've missed. I've missed it greatly On a personal level like outside it's going on like a a family vacation like and probably to the beach or something like that to just get away Because our like I had a whole my whole spring break thing This all hit that same week as my kids. Spring break from school and so it ruined the trip. And we weren't able to do it. We had a whole trip planned a waterpark. And the whole nine and we weren't able to do it I've got another. I mean there's one that's already booked in June and I'm hoping that by that time I don't know I guess I'm going to have to make a decision soon on whether or not to cancel the reservation because I think it's like forty five days out or something Because it's hard to know if by June right I mean I've rented a house in Florida or whatever With a couple other friends of mine and their families and so we rented this this house out there. So I'm I've been so looking forward to that and hoping that can play out. I would just say yeah getting something like a vacation that we didn't get we didn't get to go anywhere for spring break when that was all planned out and then obviously right about now would be towards the end of the NBA SEASON. And so when this is all said and done and you can travel I haven't I haven't gone anywhere Cents I think Last maybe a year ago I guess you know I went last summer. I went to Chicago now that I haven't been out of town other Nadan. Wow anywhere so everything was just manage. I look forward to those to those shared experiences again. I mean I think about first time what it's GonNa feel like going out to eat. I think about what it's GonNa be like a game with a with a full packed crowd. I think about what it would be like a concert or like Coachella next year Coachella IF IT gets cancelled in October after being postponed. What's that music festival going to be like For people just releasing emotion getting out for the first time maybe we hope and many many months with a large group of people. It's going to be an emotional experience. Whenever that happens all relative to what your own own interests are even something like going to the movie theater man this past month or so about last two months after my dad passed away. My mom and I are like looking forward to go into movies together on Tuesdays because you get a cheap ticket see some movies together because we let something. We've always loved doing Over the years and you know not able to go to the movies now. It's it's it's you know for any any person is a moviegoer Being in a full theater on opening night or something like that. That's a fun experience. I just look forward to when those days are back and as I always say crystal take. Don't take Lebron James for granted. I'm not gonNA take any of that for granted once it's back that's for sure. I next question. This is from Duke. If you're honest does the sides leave next year. Where would be the best destination for them? All I don't even want to entertain this. I mean look I. I am rooting for him to stay in Milwaukee for career and I hope that because I've lived through this entire NBA covering life. I mean like every time any of the players went to a big market from. Oj Mayor Rudy Gay to mark Asada. Mike Conley everyone was going to leave for La and New York and somewhere other than where they were. And so I've got a soft spot for Milwaukee and having to deal with this all the time my short answer would also be. It doesn't matter it doesn't matter where he would go. The frigging honest meet. He would make any team exponentially better in. That's why you'd look. You can look at the options. People talk about Toronto right the connection whereas with Messiah Jiri for with Basketball Without Borders. You can look at Golden State. The connection with Steph Curry and Steph subtly recruiting Yannis. But if he went to golden state it'd be the same thing with K. D. He'd be joining a favorite Kaz goal. And say it's going to be great next year the team that does best for us if he leaves which I hope he does it but if he leaves to answer the question is New York. It's the Knicks. It's the Knicks. Be This Abeer if yes if he's the savior of the Knicks. I know it's big barker. Bias your is choosing a big market team. Yeah but I'm not choosing the Knicks because they're a big market team choosing the Knicks. Because THEY SUCK. We've done that for every star though but every star. We've said that we've said eventually there's going to be one. It was awesome. It was Anthony Davis. It was it was obviously Carmelo. Went there you know Atlanta? They're not like like every big star. That has come up. It's like Oh what about the Knicks? Right it was Katie and Kyri just recently and no one ever does it. I mean it's been now fifteen twenty years. Nobody pulls the trigger Knicks. And that's why I'm saying you know the best destination for him. Is the next best. Destination is Milwaukee and just stay on. It leaves if he leaves. Don't leave. Don't leave Janas Donaldson to thank you for the question Duke. All right I think we can finish on a on a silly question here. This is from Evan Kev. Who would you cast as Verno in a movie about Verno and Verno? Who would you cast as boy you go first here Chris? That dude played mclovin. Come on name. I should have Brad Pitt playing me. Christopher Christopher Mint permits. He's in super bad right so I know the answer but I want I want you to say why why why Christopher Mintz and why love and specifically I think you guys think you guys can grow a beard like me. I have probably up. And he's got a big beard now. I don't know what he's done. I don't know what he's done recently. Well I was GonNa Choose Jack. Nicholson for you tag natural. Look at this look. He does have facial hair even if you go to is wikipedia and you guys aren't far off age wise. It's a little bit a little stuff on his chin and he's a good looking guy now he's got a little Jamal Marianas chimney patching this there daughter in a minute. Promise you that sometimes you this is all. I'm saying so you're thinking you're thinking of him from that movie Super Bad. I know that's fair. No Real mclovin have any kind of MC love any. I know that's okay but anyway for you Jack. Nicholson because why Johnny's old we have de aging technology. Now we have deep faith technology taken super. Alums that ask you. Can you sit in sautes? Finally finally I finally broke down last week. I said enough is enough I am now I am putting. I have like a folder of I get more. You look like this person or any. It's it's it's girls it's kids. It's good looking dude. In people were paying like anything any anything like they could like ninety percent of them honestly. I'm not kidding. Look I look at them and they look nothing like me every once in a while there will be one but I get I get one of these like no lie three to five times a week and I'm now just creating a folder of these. 'cause they're outrageous anyway with Jack. Nicholson the reason why choose. That is because as an actor. He is terrific playing sentimental character but he's also the best at playing angry character. And you get very angry so I think Jack Nicholson has the range as an actor to accurately portray the man Chris Vernon I almost responded. There's a guy that sent us the other day and he says you know. I'm listening to these PODCASTS. I'm doing a little catch up and his Kevin O'Connor really liked that impersonate. If so he's a hall of fame good guy and I have it in my drafts where I was going to respond to the guy. You've got it all wrong. He's an absolute scumbag. But I didn't do it because I thought maybe you would get upset and of mine. I I've gotta make you feel good. I'll I'll switch yours too. Paul Rudd you can be Paul Ryan Area Bassett. Sexiest man alive wasn't he was he. I think he's one sexiest man alive. Let's see really. I think he is wrong about that right now. I think he did. He was one of people magazine's sexiest man alive. I don't think he was named sexiest man alive. Oh He's just he was on. He was on the list. Yes he yes. He got an honorable mention Isaac next coming back to the show. Of course he was being back. Thank you Isaac. Thanks Kevin O'Connor everybody have a good week. We will be back on. Friday predict what your hand gets rating view on. I two five stars. Five stars really helped we will talk to you.

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"Tonight on ESPN two celebration of MLS twenty fifth season. We will relieve some of the most unforgettable matches in league history starting six eastern the first. Mls Cut from ninety six and the two thousand one cup play just a few weeks after the nine eleven attacks followed by David debut with the La Galaxy in two thousand seven. We wrap it up twist last year's MLS Cup all that more on ESPN two and the ESPN APP. Meanwhile one of my favorite things from over the weekend one of Tom. Brady's new teammates and receivers had the following tweet this weekend. He tweeted Hamas. Was that damn good? Let me bring Dan and Marcus into this. I've thoughts one. This seems to be Tom. Brady's doing too. I thoroughly agree except I already knew. Hamas is one of my absolute favorite things in the world. Marc Spears agree or disagree disagree. That is one of my favorite things in the world but it is good the roasted red pepper. I'll give from Zoe's kitchen. This bar came. Wait till it open backup g Danny. That's why I love my guy so I can literally my favorite thing to go to. Zoe's is the roasted red pepper. Hamas you get some of the pita chips pita bread. He snack on a Green Green. Got A dad joke about almost for you. Let me hear it. My ex girlfriend. My ex girlfriend tried to steal my Hamas once. I told that chick piece all right. Thank you for ruining the program as we have known it. That's that's sweat group. We're busy all morning long. It is time to a little bit of took me a second to get it. It's time to get up with America's framework game. Today's an important day and we'll tell you what then we're two weeks away. Time to put the pieces in place for the NFL draft and we have all of the insight and then it may very well be the greatest hall of fame class ever. Don't Miss Charles. Barkley live and a half hour on Kobe. Bryant and company Twenty Twenty class for the hall of fame all that aimed more as we get up and go right now with sources telling out Adam Shepherd but over the weekend high level officials from multiple. Nfl teams are preparing to conduct. The draft from home and not at their facilities. Drab begins two weeks from Thursday elsewhere. Ufc Two forty nine still scheduled for April eighteenth now appears the UFC is very close to securing a new venue for the event likely on the West Coast. The current plan is for Tony Ferguson. To fight just engaging and that would be the headline elsewhere. I've just mentioned the Twenty Twenty Basketball Hall of fame. Class was announced all eight. Finalists were selected. It is one of the great classes of all time top to bottom but of course the headline is Kobe. Bryant tragically. We'll go in posthumously and he'll be joined with. Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett. You'll be hard pressed to find more decorated trio of players to be enshrined in a single year the three combined for forty all-star appearances eleven titles and four. Mvp's elsewhere speaking on a conference call with Major League Sports Commissioners Saturday President. Trump said he believes the. Nfl season should start on time in September. He also said he hopes to have fans back by August and September. California Governor Gavin newsom later said quote. I'm not anticipating that happening in the state. Of course all of this remains to be seen but we can tell you is that as of today plans are being disrupted shefty tweeting. This morning today would have been the start of off season workouts for teams of new head coach. Mike McCarthy in Dallas Kevin's defence. Gained CLEVELAND. Joe Judge in New York ruling Carolina Ron Rivera in Washington but only virtual off season word. Now this is obviously frivolous in the scheme of things. But we're sports show and so we'll talk about the impact of all of this on sports and we will maintain the position that we have from the beginning. It costs US. Nothing to be optimistic. We will not be unrealistic with you here but we will be optimistic and hope for the best and with that thought in mind. Dan are asking. What is your feeling as now some of the teams that would be on the field? Getting working are missing that we work our way towards the draft and we hope for the best. Come this fall. It's really hope for the best plan for the worst greeny and that's this is an opportunity for the NFL. Really from the top down. Roger Goodell all the way down to display its leadership because there's the reality of the. Nfl starts on time. That's going to be easy for them but the NFL again. All of its leaders need to have multiple plans in place for the NFL disturbed at this time or to look a little bit differently. No fans or reduce the amount of time or later date so when that opportunity presents itself the leadership is ready for Greenie and I am like you. I will remain optimistic but as we sit here on April sixth listen if we get any form of football in September I'll be thankful for because what it would represent is. We're in a better place at that moment. Then we are right now and I'm going to be super thankful for that so I'll remain optimistic every single day as we move towards that Marcus we were all looking for whatever information we could get out of the president's conversation with all of the various sports commission is what are your thoughts today g. me internalize this a little bit man. I remember my eighth year going into Dallas. Didn't know if I would be released. Make the team be traded or what there were mumblings going on around and as a player. I had to have a central focus on getting myself ready to play the season. The one thing that I couldn't do was afford to get caught off guard. And that's the thing these players don't know if the season is going to start we could find out information. Obviously being optimistic we find out in a week or two that. We're starting to flatten this curve. And things are starting to get back to some normalcy with seeing the data supports that we may be getting back to sports. You have to be ready to play football season. That's the that's my kind of note to all of the players and these guys are professionals and they understand that but you have to approach this off season regardless of the changes in the differences. Like you're going to play football so it encompasses everything you can do individually to get ready to play football season. I think that's really well said all right. We will continue to cover all of that sort of news for you here. And that's my promise to you. We will be optimistic but not unrealistic. Meanwhile there is news of through the more comparatively on the field variety and it begins with Cam. Newton was of course still on the market as we get closer and closer to the draft Friday. Warren Moon was with the guys on. I ache explaining why he thinks cam is GonNa have a hard time catching on if it is going to be a backup role. Here's what Warren Moon set. He's not a guy. I don't see going somewhere where he can be a backup he. He's still brings a lot to the table if he's healthy The thing that concerns me is is his. You know his personality. He's a big time. Personality brings a lot to the table when he comes to a team. And there's some teams that probably could deal with that and there are other teams. That don't want their leader to be that type of personality. So that's where he's GonNa find the problem in trying to find another home. I have a few different topics I want to start with that one on the clock. Sixty seconds on the clock. Orlovsky do you agree with Warren Moon? I disagree that that's a big hurdle for him to jump over. Greenie the biggest hurdle for Cam to jump over his him proving to the teams that are options that he is in a healthy option for them and if he's healthy option what are Cam. Newton's expectations there needs to be a great deal of communication between him and the team and then the team to him and if they can figure out a group of teams that see at the same way as Cam Newton. He's going to be on a team at some point but the expectations need to be seen the same way between him and those teams so I go is personality. A problem. Personality is not a problem for the teams willing to bring him new near what will be a problem team. That's asking him to be a backup. Remember agreeing really. Go back to College Cam. Newton transfer from Florida went to Auburn. They won the Heisman and the National Championship. There is not one that is going to tell Cam Newton if he's healthy enough but he's GonNa play back in the NFL. Yeah all right so we'll keep an eye on that situation. I'm GonNa give you sixty seconds on another one on Friday. Houston Texans general manager and coach Bill. O'brien address the de'andre Hopkins Trade for the first time. He said the deal was quote in the best interest of our team he added. That Hopkins has three years left on his deal and wanted a raise. Sixty seconds on the clock. Marcus your face is already telling us the answer. What do you think of this explanation? Hell no in the best interest of the team. The best player on you just live outside of the show Watson and look receive. I asking for contracts early because of a new CBA. Bill O'Brien obviously G. You know this whole tray rugby the wrong way. I'm still not recovered permit. Obviously by the way that I'm talking but the fact that Bill O'Brien would say that that was in the best interest of the Houston Texas. He'll tell me number. One is on the Houston. Texans the deal I agree with you. Bro Listen No quarterback. Wide Receiver duo has more touchdown connections in the last three years. Then Hopkins and Watson and so you're gonNa tell me the second place team would be Davante Adams and Aaron Rodgers We're GONNA come out and say we had to move Davante Adams because it was best for us or Cooper Cup and Jared. Goff what we gotTa Move Cooper Cup. Because it's best froze bill. O'brien Texans. This was best for you and your job is to do. What's best to the Texans and you failed to do that. It does feel as though the conflict that existed between the two of them played some role in this. And we'll leave it at that. I've one more for you. Guys Bears General Manager Ryan Pace in their head coach. Matt Nagy confirmed there will be an open competition for the starting quarterback job between Mitch. Trubisky and Nick Foles Dan. Orlovsky sixty seconds on the clock. Is that the right way to approach this in Chicago. It is the right way. I'm a little surprised that he came out and said it. Now but I will give Ryan Pace and Matt Nagy Shout. I love their transparency at Mitchell trubisky. I'm GonNa go find that go. Phelps and Chad look lost the South African swimmer in the Olympics when Lacrosse peaking over at Michael. Phelps Phelps is just hyper focused on his goal and that's who Mitchell trubisky needs to become. He needs to be hyper focused on his goal. Do not see Nicole's because you cannot have an off day Mitch. Trubisky if you have an off day Nickelsville jumpy hyper focus on every single day and show that you are mentally ready to take over that organization. Marcus do I look shocked to look that all? I told you from the beginning that this was what this was about. Oh the word today is optimism. We can be optimistic that Mr Bisky is make this jump and make the Chicago Brad. Bear happy but that ain't what they plan and they brought in Nick foles to start. I'm telling you I'm GonNa let it go word. I WANNA keep talking about this finish. That thought you believe they brought Nick. Foles there to be the starter absolutely. Listen g you don't break first of all. I'll tell you guys this all the time and Dan Former quarterback obviously we argue on this point. Nobody is mum on. When you have a starting quarterback in the building no-one mitts his words. No one says well. There's a possibility just like when tempers said about him. We'll wait for the physical to come back to see. Nobody has monet. When you bring in Nick foles all of the things revolving around Mitch Trubisky. The hope is that Nick Foles Beats Mitch trubisky out and becomes the starter and the bears have a quarterback to compensate but is the that is the hope. You're that Dan. I would totally disagree with that in Ryan Pace it Matt. Nagy were to sit down and go. What is the best thing for US long term? That's what everyone gets into this business for long term. The best thing for them is not for Nick. Foles to win that job. It's for Nick. Foles to put push mister trubisky so much. That trubisky becomes their starting quarterback for ten years. And then they're the general manager and head coach there for ten years so I disagree. They want Mitchell trubisky to win this job and Nick foles is there to push him and be safety net just in case. I sort of agree with that part of it. I don't know that he will but I think that's what they would like in a perfect world. Anyway we'll talk about it as we go man. We'll also talk about Aaron Rodgers. He was drafted by Green Bay to replace a legend. You'll hear why the packers need to think about Rogers air in this draft. We'll talk about that and of course this Kobe Bryant. Tim Duncan they each five titles. They were announced as members of the Basketball Hall of fame class this weekend. Is it the best class ever Charles Barkley and Jalen join us to talk about that and more next get up on? 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Forty niners Greenie. If you look at Jalen Hurts. All he's done is develop as a passer. Okay and so we take the San Francisco Forty niners who are run dominant football team in the head coach. Who looks at players says? Tell me what he can be not what he isn't and he would take. Jalen hurts and use them in this run game to develop as a runner but also shoots Chilton plex game. It's a great fit all right. How about Jordan love? What's the best bit for him now? Jordan love needs to be on the Patrick Mahomes plan so I put him at the Green Bay packers Jordan love. Is this guy that has this freakish kind of talent. But he needs to learn how to play quarterback. And you're talking about Matt Leflore Guy Totally understand that position and how you tie in your feet and progressions with where the football should go to and so you're going to have the opportunity to sit him and have no pressure to play right away underneath Aaron Rodgers but develop as a quarterback and it's an ideal place for him to be on. The mahomes plan is so much about that. I WanNa talk to you about it and we will but let's get to the next one. What's the best fit for Justin? Herbert Okay Justin. Herbert is a player is intellectual right. He can look at the defensive. Okay here comes the pressure control. Line of scrimmage. He's smart enough to understand that stuff but he needs a coat that is ongoing to unlock his ability to be aggressive and Josh mcdaniels. Is this creative? Play caller that is willing to do things a little bit on ordinary or Unorthodox and put the football downfield when it presents itself in just in. Herbert needs a coat to give them that. New England would be that place all right and finally about to the Miami Dolphins first of all they have a Guy Ryan Fitzpatrick. That's going to be their starters. You don't need to rush to onto the field second of all. They have a general manager and coach. That aren't really fighting for their jobs. They don't need to win right now to save their jobs. There's going to be the pressure to to to go and sit and learn and be a part of a long term plan that builds this roster inside out but he remains the most compelling figure in this draft or to no one's surprise mcshea projects that Joe Bora. We'll go number one overall to the bengals and then he has to going five to Miami. Surprisingly he has Jordan love. Justin Herbert both in the top. Ten after that. He doesn't see another quarterback going until Jacob in the second round meanwhile back to Rex Ryan was here on Friday. He had these thoughts on the Bama. Qb I think this is the biggest gamble in the history of the NFL draft. And the reason I say that as you can't get your doctors don't get their hands on them all that Kinda stuff one thing we know. This young man is absolutely an amazing quarterback however everybody knows about the three operations. He's had really well. I've heard he's had five operation so if I only have one first round pick. I think it's too risky. I think if I multiple picks Like the dolphins do they can probably take that gamble and I think they will but not package that move up. That's what he said. Marcus Spears is to a ton of Iowa the biggest gamble in draft history when you talk about risk reward g but I thought Jalen Smith when Dallas drafted him was the biggest gamble because he had nerve damage in his knee and no one knew if he would ever play football again and let me contextualized this from a position standpoint from what tool could possibly be for your franchise absolutely is the biggest gamble boom. We're just talking about medical the fact that they can't see too and the fact that they were able to see. Jaylen Smith and steal saw the damage. A lot of teams went away. Dallas decided to drop turned out to be one of the best linebackers in the NFL to me. That was the biggest gamble. Even though you're able to see the medicals risk reward and you talk about what could be is to our rewrote. How about you Dan? I got a lot of issues with all this first of all. Greenie risk comes from not knowing what you're doing all right and so we talk about to a right now in absolutes and we talk about everybody else optimism. But we talk about to like he's GonNa get hurt and he's going to be a failure as a pick and we talk about everybody else with optimistic kind of I'd glasses on like okay. Justin Herbert's GONNA play for fifteen years at pro bowl level. And I don't think that's fair to do it. Here's the reality to was going to get drafted and you know what's more important to where to it. Gets drafted is what you do when you draft so the team. Don't rush to on the field and know what you're doing team. Support Him with the coaching staff. That understands what he does really. Well know what you're doing draft really well with the offensive line. Put good skilled people around him. Because if you do that then this risk that we keep talking about isn't as big as we make it all out to be like. We talked about this about two men first time. He steps on the field. He's GonNa get hurt like if he's the third pick like last year. Clinton Williams was quite a Winston jets. Got Thirty two million dollars right. That was the risk financially if two is the third pick this year. It's going to be something like that. What's more risky? Let's riskier drafting to a third this year. Or giving a guy like I don't know Jimmy G. Seventy five million dollars a Ryan tannehill ninety one million dollars guaranteed or Kirk Carson. Sixty six million dollars. What do we deem as more risky doing that? Were taking third and giving him thirty. Million Dollars Guaranteed. It's an interesting way to look at it. You know Marcus and this isn't the time for this conversation. But in the new. Nfl where the best thing to have a quarterback who's still on his rookie contract. I think the pressure for these guys to start playing earlier exists and I think that's one of the things you have working against you. In the case of too many people believe still despite what his people are saying that needs to be a medical redshirt. No doubt and I think people getting misconstrued. I think my my partner in crime right here is getting true. It's not about the injuries. It's about the fear of durability that's the issue like everybody is of the same vein that too has recovered or is recovering very well from his hip injury. He obviously had the anguish brains covering him. When he was Alabama the issue is. Will he be durable enough? That's what everybody is trying to figure out the HIP. I think everybody can get answers about their even without this process happening. Soda Durability is the issue everybody is afraid though we will start to get the answers two weeks from Thursday you will see all three days of the NFL draft live on ESPN. Starting April twenty third rule have the coverage here the College Game Day. We'll have their presentation of the draft on ABC. You can also follow the draft on. Espn deported there's an ESPN radio and the ESPN APP and NFL network will have draft coverage as well so we will have this covered for you from every direction cutting up. This year's May just be the greatest basketball hall of fame class. Ever but Charles Barkley and Jalen thing. We'll ask them next dead up. Espn no one likes to feel stuck especially by your cloud but the IBM cloud is the most open insecure public cloud for business. It can manage all your apps and data anywhere smart. Loves problems. Ibm Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm DOT com slash. Flexible back on get up. Today is day twenty six of the NBA Hiatus as the US continues to battle the spread of the corona virus could delete the NBA be preparing for the season to be completely cancelled. Brian Windhorst was on in our last hour discussed. What the League's next steps could look like. I'm going to say this. Very clearly testing testing testing forget about fans in arenas forget about bubbles. The only way this is happening is with mass testing that is available political. Free where you don't have to worry about taking it away from somebody who needs it and you could get quick results intil. There's testing everything that we're talking about. Here is pie in the sky. That's the reality that is shown us in Asia. That's the reality the has. I'll make the point again. We are going to be optimistic but not unrealistic as we approach all of this but right now we're going to have a lot of fun because you can see them on my screen. Jalen rose in the hall of Famer. Charles Barkley our live with us here fellas. It is great to see you and I want to talk about the hall of Famers. But let's get a quick thought. Charles. We've not spoken to you in quite some time. What are your overall thoughts as and what are you hearing from people as we all hope that the NBA is able to come back and resume their season at some point? I think right now. They got to wait to the in April befitted before they have anymore. Compensation resume of the season that the the month of April is wash. I think we're going to reconvene at the end of April. I didn't make a decision going forward but the other one thing that concerns me I think owners got votes on whether they got to pay the players out. They gotTA beat first paycheck. They Miss April fifteen. I think that's what this whole thing going to start to get really really really interesting. In what way Charles. H- what do you expect the players to do? What do you expect the reaction to be if that does happen? Which is expected? Well you know. We always talk about the elite players in the NBA much majority of the players. It's kind of like the NFL. I didn't realize that six percent of the NFL players made the minimum today was talking about the CPA last month is probably similar to that in the NBA the NBA a salary structure was really really top heavy so those guys are not gonna be affected by not getting paid. We're GONNA have a lot of players who are not get paid with our struggle financially if they if they don't get paid can be interesting to see where that goes Jalen. What are your thoughts as you wake up on this Monday morning agree with Wendy about making sure that testing was available? We would hope over the next thirty to sixty days. Did that actually happens. Not only with enough masks for people across the country but enough ventilators and enough testing. We didn't necessarily handle this right. Initially but not as it is here I would hope that at that point over the next sixty days we will be able to test the NBA players and find a way to resume a season. And it shouldn't be a reason to panic. And I know that football is GonNa Start September but if the NBA was able to play basketball in July or August. That's fine go into September. I don't mind seeing playoff basketball between Lebron James and leaner. I'm still GonNa Watch. Tom Brady and drew brees on Sunday. But I still WANNA see Greek freak and I believe that level of enjoyment is something that society would really be deserving of at that period of time. Now you've you've been steadfast in that through the beginning of this all right guys what I really wanted to talk about. Today is the hall of fame class from the weekend because it is one of the genuinely great classes of all time. The eight players and coaches want to combine seventeen titles Kobe. Dunkin leading the way five. Each Kim Mulkey is one three as Baylor's head coach they combined with more than sixty three hundred games on the players side. Tim Duncan won eleven hundred fifty eight games on his own head coach Barbara Stevens also eclipsed the one thousand win mark and this classes of course headlined by the trio of Koby and and Garnett they combined for forty eight all star selections by far the most combined all stars by any trio to retire within a single season so you guys play against all three of them and I just thought the fans would enjoy hearing you guys tell some stories Charles. We'll we'll start with you. Jalen has legendary games against Kobe. We all know about those. What are your recollections of playing against a young Kobe Bryant in your career well Kobe? Bryant is the Best Basketball Player. I've seen compared to Michael Jordan. Michael is the greatest I've ever seen and played against but only gas said I've always said this. Kobe Bryant is closer. I've ever seen I didn't get to play against Kareem and his prime or with a Bill Russell Lebron's but I'm telling you Kobe. Bryant's the best player I've ever seen other than Michael Joy Tim Duncan disrespected Kevin McHale. It's the greatest power forward ever chemicals. The best player I ever played against. And I'll tell you this. Kindergarten is one of my favorite players with the exception Russell. Westbrook I've never seen to. Nba players play. His heart is kindergarten at a Russell. Wet Westbrook night in night out where? There's a lot of great players a lot of Great Hall Hall of Famers but Russell Westbrook. Who's GonNa be in the hall of fame more day kindergarten at the two hardest working players? I've ever saying and played against. Let's do they meet you individually for moment so Jalen if I asked you and there's a lot to choose from here. What is the single most significant member you have played against Kobe? Bryant watched the first one. You choose actually was during the two thousand. Nba Finals when he had his coming out party. See A lot of people a celebrate the successes but they underestimate diversity. A lot of these guys overcome in the perseverance. In order to become great players Hall of famous like Charles Barkley Kobe Bryant a couple years prior GREENIE AGAINST UTAH. He shall I four airballs at the end of the game and in that finals. It was to one Lakers playing at Indiana. We had a chance to tie the series in the big diesel file. Dow and all of a sudden they give the basketball to Kobe. Bryant any takes over he puts on his show late in the game. He looks over at his Bitch. He looks over his shag entails. Feel get down or lay down. He points his hands to the floor. And I know you have to see Lebron James doing right now but Kobe was doing it back then. We're not a rocket an Afro. We had a chance to tie that series chuck. I will be wearing a ring. Imagine the world would be much different. Colby had four the late great. I had one but that coming out party stopped it from happening as you know Charles. Go ahead what Charles is you mentioned. How similar he is to Jordan and Jordan had that same thing late in the game and you obviously saw this up close and personal lot late in the game. Put The ball on my hands. He wanted to take that shot. What is that quality? Those two guys had green is kind of like a closer. You Go back to that Michael Jordan commercially. Talking about all the shots he missed a. Lotta guys and Taylor knows this allowed guys. Don't have a self esteem confidence bravado to never were about fairly a lot of guys like they missed one shot they're not gonNA take another game winning shot but for the next two weeks unless everything's going great for them. Michael Jordan. Kobe Bryant them guys always wanted to ball. They're not worried about fairly. No data talk about huge airball. Hey I don't want to break up into name but we've seen guys who missed big shots and never recover. We've seen that in all sports but cover Bryan. Even she knows airballs in Utah. That man was what he was obsessed with winning. He would then worry about his teammates feelings. And listen when you say that. Other Athletes Greatest Abba. We said he would fight with. His teammates. Didn't get along with all of his teammates but he was GonNa win at all costs. We both said that about two guys in NBA History Michael Jordan and Kobe. Bryant only guys and I've been doing a great job a teaser that documentary. Everybody can't wait to see Mike and say I just wanted to win at all costs listen. Kobe Bryant wanted to win at all. Because that's what separates those guys. Let's give Dunkin a moment here Jalen because there's probably never been an all time great who has little fanfare and asked for his little fanfare as he did. What was it like being on the floor with them so for Kobe? Bryant and Keiji came straight out of high school and we're phenomenons as they grew into their NBA game. Tim Duncan was a season. College player plays four years at wake forest. Got a chance as a young player to learn alongside David Robinson who was able to nurture him. Pop became the head coach. He's the most he's the most stable great player in the history of the NBA. On and off the floor. You won't see another guy played twenty straight years for the same team and make the playoffs each year and all three of these guys and chocolate. Appreciate this back in the day. Usually your best player. It wasn't just a guy who led the team scorn. You had to bring it on both ends and that's all all three of these guys led by K. G. and Tim Duncan did Tim. Duncan was the best defensive player. Also were rebound the basketball and also for seven full guy because touch his fifty eight hundred foot bank shot facing up playing against smaller guys energies. Larger guys usually seven full Guy Greenie dominated. You bought dunks. Tim Duncan dominated by skill. And that's what helped make him be an all time. Great did he talk at all on the floor either. Chuck did he say anything. Well we'd never talk but I want to piggyback on some Jalen said one reason I really admire Tim. Duncan GREENIE IS I. I'm trying to think. Has there ever been a superstar? The greatest player this position. Who was able to relinquish and let other guys? When he was cast as prime or one of the greatest he was he led to nobly and Parker take over and then say a word. I mean that's really hard for got 'cause we all got egos before gotta be the greatest power for whatever and have a smooth transition into getting older and said I'm right with Parker nobly even Leonard. Also Egypt wanted to win and win more championships. Bet something to be said for that. 'cause a Lotta guys. When they get older they still want to be treated like the man no doubt about it a Jalen a moment for Kevin Garnett here. What what was it like on the floor against that incredibly intense K. G. Y. K. Front I can't. I hate it when he guarding me. Because this do embody playing position as basketball and a lot of what you see in a lot of that is what cagey was doing straight out of high school. He could guard a center. He could guard a plane. Gar and Chuck talked about his toughness in his intangibles in his intensity the guys always thumping his chest hitting his head on the backstop. Always spitting always just bringing a level of intangibles. That don't show up in the box score. He was one of those guys that always played against in which he was my teammate Charles. The final word on Cagey well. I used to hate that dude. Because you claiming game twenty six in the season you play 'em in game like fifty two in game like eighty two. He's playing like they were all game. Seventy young fellow calm down. We got eighty two game the back of the status earlier. I been an MBA for four close to forty years now. Russell Westbrook in cable net. Play harder to any two players I've ever seen in the NBA in my opinion greed. Guys I agree. I love both for doing this. Thank you so much. Both of you. Stay healthy and safe and we'll see you soon. Thank you very much. Thanks for having bad. Hey keep up the great work on knows tub but keep it up. We're doing great. Thank you Charles Taylor. I'll talk to you soon. Thank you both guys. And we have more hall of fame. Talk With Stephen. A on the way as we continue here on get up. 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I actually would have thought it was sharp but Shannon Sharpe but the answer. He hates him bow. Go on he got one hundred and three passes in the year. Two thousand seven. Nick was not on that team but he was mason teammate. Later on all right well done dominic Foxworth. Let's talk about a guy who if he wants up in Baltimore might catch a lot of passes? And that's free agent wide receiver Antonio Brown who was working out with Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson and Baltimore White Out Hollywood Brown yesterday. Abc posted video of the workout to instagram story. And Hollywood posted a photo of the three of them together. You can see the picture there. And they certainly look if they're having a good time and it working out together and so does bring up sort of an interesting possibility. Antonio Brown is a guy and we believe wants to play in is looking for a place to go We originally thought maybe Tampa. The buccaneers a completely closed. The door on that. Should it be open here? Let Me Remind Tanenbaum Ryan Clark into this conversation. Our see I will start with you. If you're the ravens. Are you giving serious consideration to bringing Antonio Brown? I think the first thing if I'm the ravens more concerned that they took a picture hugging. I mean Merav giving air high fives in my house. So that's probably the first thing Secondly I don't know I just don't think you bring Antonio Brown into what's going on in Baltimore. I was actually talking to someone from their organization yesterday about some upcoming guys in his draft and they were saying he kept saying you know. This is the only place I've been. I'm so lucky I'm so blessed they know how to do it here. They know how to build a program. They have a culture. And I don't think Tony Arou- fits into that culture right now. You have a young quarterback that can be erratic throwing the ball. We've seen Antonio Brown and the way he starts to behave well. He's getting his targets or he is getting his catches A. I don't necessarily know if that's something you WanNa bring into your young. Mvp's career when he's at the precipice at the point where he can actually sin to be one of the top tier quarterbacks in his league year after year after year. I think you have a good foundation. Now you look to get a guy in his draft to add on the outside but bringing Antonio Brown in shouldn't be something that coach Hobo and his team is thinking about right now. Mike Tannenbaum what do you think I absolutely signed for two reasons number one from a football standpoint and he's the perfect that when you go back from two thousand thirteen to twenty eighteen. He's had more exclusive touchdowns than anybody else's twenty yards or more. And when you look at guys like Nick Boil Mark Andrews good tight ends. He's a great complement to death in terms of being then when you talk about off the field to RC's concern. You have Hollywood Brown. Lamar Jackson worked out with him every single day. And that's the sort of infrastructure and support. You'll need from a teammate standpoint. To put him in the best position to be successful so I think it works on the field and more importantly works off the field. Can you follow up on that? Thought because you said that in our meeting this morning and it struck me. I mean to Lamar Jackson who Lebron's still very young players. So you're not necessarily talking about guys who are like a Tom Brady. We talked about last year. That maybe that's the kind of veteran leadership team would have to have here. He seems to have be to younger guys on the team. Take me through that thinking there right now. What we're missing and football is when the relationships are formed in terms of the off season program. Not as they're actually doing that down here in south or they're working out every day and that's when you really Form meaningful relationships and coach. Harbaugh is excellent at putting out problems and creating the correct culture so I think you bring him in. You have those guys around him that they've already form these relationships and bring it on a one year deal we saw the Alden Smith signing boomer bus signing very little downside and I would structure that contract where I protect Antonio Brown's upside but we had any bump in the road I would cut him. I would come before opening day if necessary. Because Lamar Jackson is the future. But in the right structure Greenie this could be a very opportunistic contract and a great opportunity for them because again. His explosiveness is a great compliment to what they really have. Really quick are just as far as what he actually does on the field. Do you like the fit with what they're doing that unique offense in Baltimore. Hey Tony Brown. I like the fit offensively on the grass anywhere. He's one of the most dominant receivers of all time not just of his era historically and so yes. If at Tonio Brown is the guy that can get along in your locker room and you absolutely want him on your team. It's why Tom Brady wanted him on the team. But I think so much more goes in to having Antonio Brown or your team and I want to see him play. I miss seeing him out there doing what he does best. But when you have a young guy like Lamar Jackson you have a Hollywood Brown who someone who knows Antonio Brown who could be influenced by him. I think you had to be very careful about what you're doing to your culture when you're bringing new pieces in all right guys. Stay with me here as continue our day on. Espn coming up next. It is I shake. That'll be followed by a two hour sportscenter then. Nfl Live Sport Center's back at five with the PTI guys corners bunch of joining the show. And then we'll cap today sportscenter. Scott Van Pelt Eleven Eastern. We're here with you all day on. Espn and as we were just discussing could be in Baltimore. Be a possibility. I take coming up in just a few minutes. We'll talk about the move. The cowboys have been making all that and more as we continue. I ache is ten minutes from now right here on. Espn WE are back on. Get up and of course crusade is falling just a few minutes in one of the topics discussed is the one that we were just discussing this as a photo posted by Hollywood Brown of himself with his quarterback Lamar Jackson and Free Agent Wide Receiver Antonio Brown who've been working out together and does raise the interesting possibility. Antonio Brown is looking for a team. Might Baltimore Make Sense. Let's find out what Stephen A SMITH JOINS. Us live again. Just a few minutes away from I take Stephen. A what do you think of the idea. Do you like the concept of Antonio Brown to Baltimore. Hell no absolutely not and we all know why it's because of his mentality. Let's be very clear about something. There's nothing to discuss about. Antonio Brown's game he's all world one of the greatest receivers we've ever seen in NFL history. There is nothing to debate about his skill set. And what a definite big time acquisition it would be for the Baltimore Ravens from a talent perspective but he is the reality of the situation. When you've got a guy like Lamar Jackson who's obviously a stud runner as a quarterback but still is evolving as a passer. Can you trust the patients of Antonio Brown? No and I keep bringing up the issue of trust when it comes to the Baltimore Ravens. Let's look at this defensively. This is one of the top three defenses in the national football league. They were fifth against a rush. They were. I'm sorry they were. They were six to get the rush. I believe fifth against the pass. And you had a situation where there was like fourth in total yards. Allowed something along those laws. They had the number one offense in football. The number one running attack in football they struggled as passes with twenty seven. Anchoring was twenty seven so we understand that Antonio Brown would being upgrade. Here's the problem. You still have a quarterback that's relatively young and he could be influenced in a negative fashion meaning. Being frustrated. Antonio Brown cannot be trusted. That's the issue with him. This guy no matter where he's been. He's throwing my tom another the bus. He's Big Ben Rothlisberger under the bus. He's thrown Juju Smith Schuster under the bus. He Insulted Mike. Mayock the General Manager for the Oakland Raiders. He stood up Jon Gruden and when his own aged tried to get him on a conference. Call with Jon Gruden. He taped the damn compensation so much. Soda Drew Rosenhaus as I told you the other day when he decided to let them go greedy. What did he do? He said? I gotTa let the world know because this guy. I don't know what he'll projects in the world because he might be secretly taping me for crying out loud. This is the Antonio Brown's you're talking about you cannot have a relatively young squad and a young locker room and bring somebody in there who can't be trusted. The first order businessman Antonio Brown is to prove that he could be trusted. That's the issue right now. You don't mess with him if you're gonNA have a hard time proving it. I have to let you go. But just what do you think? Antonio Brown assuming we have football and all that normal this year do you think he plays? I think is in grave jeopardy. There's always somebody that bring a talent like that. All we understand that but when it comes to issues of trust that's where people run away from you. People don't trust Antonio Brown right now. That is his issue. I Agree Steven. A. Again just about three minutes away from I eight. Great to see you my friend. Thank you so much. Let you get ready for that. And I'll finish up with my guy last you the same question Dominique. Do you believe we. We talked about the fit in Baltimore. We could talk about the fit and a lot of different places when all is said and done. Do you think someone takes a shot on him? I don't think so I think obviously the fit. He fits everywhere but I don't think anyone wants to take a chance on them because we still sure if you can even play the start of the season that there could be a suspension. How about you are saying. Yeah I feel the same way I think. His time has passed opportunity with the Patriots. That was the team. Everyone thought he can make it on and he couldn't even do it there and there's been more erotic behavior ever since and so for me. I don't think a team takes Antonio Brian I think he's realized that they're going to play football without me. There are also significant. Legal issues that have to be resolved in the. Nfl has to make its own decision that the reality is before he can play the NFL will have to make a decision on whether he's going to be suspended or not in that. Obviously we'll get taken into account here as well. It's sort of period new paragraph and move on to something much more pleasant to finish with these been obviously unusual times and circumstances for all of us and we are here every single day the family that is the group that put together the show every single day trying to just take your mind off. What's going on here as best? We can for two hours in the morning and so we are trying to also bring our families together so neak. I'm told you have a few special guests who might be able to join us here for a break from Home School. Come on and gas. My wife is teaching them and they've been excited about this. Might be my oldest. My second my son declan and my youngest little girl Emerson right here. 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Honoring A Legend Part 2: C.V.S. 1K

Around the Rim

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Honoring A Legend Part 2: C.V.S. 1K

"Great news. There's a quick way. You can save money. Switch to Geico. Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price. And it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Go to Geico dot com today and see how much you could save. Around the ram with let China Robinson. Hello basketball fans. It is your favorite time of the week. That's right. If they brand spanking new episode of your ESPN w women's basketball podcast around the rim. I'm your health. China Robinson joined by my fantastic and fabulous producer to Rica foster brasow be and we're excited because something very special is going to happen on this podcast. And actually there's going to be a lot of magic magic that. I had nothing to do with to Rica in our host fleecy hall Allen put together a fantastic tribute. To the newest addition to the one K club coach c Vivian stringer. Congratulations to coach stringer. We are here to celebrate you on this two part podcast. And this is part two. If you miss part one you're going to want to hear that two part two. We will talk. To John chainey one of the mentors of coach stringer. She talks a lot about just how he added so much value to her coaching career. They were both at Cheney stay together. You know when coach stringer got started. There weren't a lot of African American women. Coaching college basketball? So she relied on John Thomson and Nolan Richardson, and John chainey is someone that just she has the closest of relationships with. We will also hear from Joel that law. Current assistant coach at the university of South Carolina played for coach stringer Iowa and was an assistant coach stringer at Rutgers during their run to the final four Marianne Stanley who we've had on our show before will join us. She was also an assistant at Rutgers during their final four run. And then Dr Christine grant who wasn't administrator at the university of Iowa who took a chance on one young c Vivian stringer. Of course, she had already had success at shady stated ostrich of a chance that was, but, you know, bringing an African American women to Iowa where they were averaging two hundred fans at the time, and I believe once reach twenty two thousand just an incredible story. So that's going to be part two. If you miss part one, please go back and check it out. We have Matija von essence Carson who played on title four teams at Rutgers Cappon Dexter the two time champion Karen pie. Drawn who was a starting point guard at Cheney state and Katie Abramson Henderson who is the current coach at head coach at UCF who played for coach stringer at Iowa. I often reflect on co stringers time at Iowa because I remember story. Someone told me about how they were recruited by Iowa. And you got to think of this African American woman head coach, which there weren't a lot around at the time. She started in nineteen seventy two. At Cheney state. There was a little slippery rock before then. But you know, there weren't any a lot of African Americans at all in Iowa it here it was coach stringer arrives the head coach Dr grant will select a little bit on that decision. But and then had to recruit other African American women to come and play in Iowa. I mean magic going on your visit and just from a cultural standpoint what that was like and then coach stringer also talks about how when she got to Iowa. There were probably one hundred fans in the stains. And I believe she quoted twenty two thousand at one point at a game in Iowa. So she's well known for what she did there. But anyway, we're going to be celebrating coach stringer on this podcast. She's the head coach at Rutgers currently, but as I mentioned previous stops at Cheney state in Iowa, she became the fifth division one head coach and women's bass college basketball history to reach one K winds. Joining Pat summitt, Tara VanDerveer, Gino Auriemma, Sylvia, Hatchimal if you. Have not heard those episodes where we gave some love to those coaches for their one K, please do so we also interviewed division to Barbara Stevens who hit one K last season as head coach Ed bitty university. So you could pull up one K if you're feeling fruity if you were watching the game the one K game on the big ten network last night. What a time it was. I mean, the victory again came against central Connecticut at the rack, but it was just a job. Well, done by everyone on the pro and the broadcast production crew administrators at Rutgers. The crowd was full of so many people that love co stringer her family dawn Staley was there. Don, obviously, one of the only two African American women to win a. National championship at the division one level college women's basketball doing and Carolyn peck. Teresa Edwards was in the crowd. Carol stiff of ESPN mean, Daniel Donahue, so many faces and so many people in lives that coach stringer touched. They had paintings and giveaways and videos of Kobe Bryant giving love to coach stringer Whoopi Goldberg, the NBA TNT crew, those guys gave coach trigger some love. So it was just a well done shot out to the administrators at Rutgers everyone who had something to do with putting that celebration together very well done. But I think the thing that sticks with me personally. Oh, yeah. Let me just say this. She did get a tweet from Hillary Clinton as well. I don't know if you saw mass Rica. That. Tweet Hillary Clinton. But the one thing that stands out to me personally is just that coach stringer started coaching forty six years ago in what she's done for African American women, and she was very good friends with Pat summitt, and that someone who she speaks very highly of in terms of her as a mentor as a friend just how close they were. But you know, you think about what these women sacrificed and how they were the first and how they push in. How they pioneered for us to have everything we have for the sport of basketball right now. But for me, just Vivian coach, Vivian Stringer's life was not easy. Just the amount of adversity that she had to face almost seems unfair. You probably know about the death of her husband, Mr. Bill stringer who was near and dear to her who was a driving force in her life. You know, her daughter fell ill, and, you know, just tremendous hurdles to overcome with her care, and in those kind of things it just the number of things she's had to. To persevere through our tremendous. And you'll just hear the impact on this podcast that that strength hat on. So many people across the board. She's just inspired me so much. I get emotional just thinking about it three guy. I don't know what you would say she meant to you. But to me, she is one of the most impactful figures of our time. I think that to me she embodies what it means to be a strong African American woman in times where that strength isn't always recognized by everyone what sticks out most to me is remembering what happened in the two thousand eight two thousand sorry, two thousand seven two thousand eight season win her teen was publicly ridiculed by radio host in the way that she was able to stand up and stand for her team. And basically say, you know, to the world where I should be celebrating something that I've been working almost thirty years to have. I'm here having to defend the honor of my team, and I'm willing to do that because we're worth it. And you know, just being able to to see her go to bat for her not only her team, but for all of us for every young black girl who's ever been in a situation. In where you know, they were stereotype or looked at less than what they were. I think she embodied what that what it means to be able to to stare to stare not necessarily danger. But just to be able to look amongst the crowd and say this is who we are. This is what we're about. And this is what we're going to do. And whether you like it or not we're here, and I love that. Absolutely loved it. I mean, it it's it's. When you have you responsible for a nation of women, right because she is impacted not just players, but people. It's just widespread. I could just think about Oprah. You know, she was on Oprah Oprah say about her Oprah with an all of her like her impact has been tremendous. But then the personal tragedy, the the rejection, you know, she talks about not making the cheerleading team or first time trying out, you know, I it just so many things that happened in in in even especially during those times in the sixties and seventies civil rights and title nine or coaching before title nine even a came into play. So we, you know to reconized aren't going to spoil the greats of this podcast. But we just wanted to thank Felicia hall, Allen, first and foremost, who is one of the great orders in my opinion of our game. I mean, if you've never heard her speak. She just she's magic. That's really the way. I describe or right that she's technically the presidency. Oh, fleecy hall. Allen associates. She played for coach stringer from eighty seven to ninety one. But polices impact on the game is widespread from her work. Coaches from a step up, which is a assisted in head coach training program that she has every may where she just pours into the future of our game. She worked once worked at Nike this growing that aspect of the game for women's basketball. She is a lawyer would I always wanted to be a lawyer both least as much more than I am. But she's a coach is agent. She just touches our game. So many ways we hope you please check out part one and two. But now, let's please celebrate coach c Vivian stringer. Hi, my name is Felicia ho Ellen own my closest friends. Call me and sodas coach I'm at coach stringer when I was just. A young woman with a dream. And when I'm at co-starring during and she talked to me about her dream. Of winning national championships. And she said to me, she said sleaziest if you buy into measuring nothing will prevent me from buying into yours, and I will do everything humanly possible to help make your dreams. Come true. And she said in my home, and our hold is it I said I wanted to be maternity. Co-starring? They're made sure that that happened. I had to do the work, but she made a phone call to the law school and said, look, I have a student wing who has well over three point O GPA. She's been active and student life on campus and on the homecoming cooler and in a sorority, and she wants to be an attorney. What do we need to do to make that happen? When I got my job at Nike co. Starring there was the one who talk to Levin at nineteen and Howard white at Nike about me being a part of the staff after best bass left to go onto the executive director of the WBZ. A and after six years, I got the job co-starring pushed all the way. And then when I got to run a WNBA teen, she lose my biggest cheerleader that was my dream job. And then when I met my husband, Johnny she said to me that I had found my complimented life, and that Johnny reminded her a lot of Mr. stringer and everything great that happened in my life for my graduation schools to being there on my wedding day. Not just being there for the graduation from law school, but hosting a party at her home. And then I remember when my grandmother passed away who had been the most successful. Get seeking life that morning. I get a. A phone call from straighter too. She's more than coach to me. Coach stringer in everything that I've always wanted to be and then some. And feel grateful that it has been her honor and privilege to be a stepping stone and to be someone who elevates of. So that their dreams can come true. She I I would say that it would be selfish that the you know, that it's all about a national championship. But I think that coast during their. Her wins far exceed what she's done on the basketball court because for every young woman that she's coached from Cheney to Iowa to Rutgers. She won and all of our lives, but not just our lives. But in the lives of the people that we all have gone on to touch. And so we always say three teen one family one CBS family, and when she was inducted into the Naismith hall of fame, we had a three teams one family gun abrasion to honor her and she bought the Naismith trophy. And she had everybody to come in touch the trophy. And she said that a piece of it belong to all of because we all made that happen. Her husband Bill stringer made me believe that there were men in the universe. Who could love a strong black woman, a strong woman with a vision in a dream and clarity. And who could lead. Her children have been selfless and her family, her brothers and sisters and nieces and nephews are all part of the extended CVS basketball family Br grunting injure hired her at record. Dr Christine grant, higher toured Iowa. I'm not sure who hired her Cheney. But what I do know that all of them positioned her on her sinement because coaching has been more than just a game. It's changed a lot of people's lives and baby stringer changed the trajectory of my life. And that's why when let China called and to Rica, and I would moderate this park. Was honored. So I hope that the story and the message is that everyone has an opportunity to hear about coast trainer and coach Raymond my shell that we're and can't be pundits. Who considered herself a feature before? It was a challenge that we would even get to see her as a future. I mean, camping and tasha Polaner, Linda mounds, and there's so many names that could be called if an Schuler and. So Newton one of her favorites. And I've been just so many co-starring Rica's touched so many lives court, mocking her and. Andrea Harmon and. I mean, there's just so many people we all consider ourselves sisters, and though coach is not our mother. I would say that we all proud to call her coach. So I know Dr grant that you had been a hero. She row. Just. Your work what title nine and all of the things that you've done to open doors and create opportunities and elevate others. So that they might be at their absolute best. There's no one. Yeah. I mean, second-to-none you and my opinion. Have been one of four mothers. To advance women's participation in sports. I'm grateful that I am a product of the university of Iowa. But I wouldn't want to have been at Iowa had you not fired see baby than stringer as the head coach there. I wanna know that during a time when there were very few women of color outside of at Bates, basically use or historically black colleges that were fortunate enough to serve and that head coaching. Whoa. What was it about coach stringer that made you believe that not only what she ready for this moment? But that she had what it took to be a national champion and to change the perception of what people at predominantly white institution thought about hiring, an African American female coach. Well, thank you. For your kind words. I'm let me tell me what happened. When I knew I had a vacancy. I had a friend who was in graduate school with me when I was doing my PHD, and she was a basketball coach name was an griffis, and she was the basketball coach at slippery rock, and that was where Vivian hide had undergraduate work done and where she played basketball. And so when I had the agency I phone dead. And I said, do you know of any up and coming coaches that you would recommend and she maybe recommended Vivian, and I was fascinated by the story. And so I thought the Rian and asked if I could meet her to talk about the position. And so she eventually said, yes, she wasn't wasn't keen to talk to me. I can tell you. But at kind of persisted, and I said I would fly to Philadelphia to meet her which I did. And I meet I met both the end Bill. Her husband. And we talked about the position and. After I had told her something about Iwa. She said well, first of all, I'm not interested in leaving Cheney state. And she said if I worked to leave Cheney state, it would not be to go to Isla, and my heart sank, I can tell you. But Bill stringer winked at me. And I thought maybe I've got an ally in Bill and after talking to them for quite a long time. I persuaded them just to come. I wa for that. No commitment. No, nothing just come through. Visit. And I think one of the things that really sold. Both an end Bill on Isla was a medical staff because as you know, Meena require the best medical attention. She could possibly get and one of the first things that I arranged a meeting with some key people in the field of medicine to talk about what I could offer to her daughter. And I think that trust the fact that Iowa had made a commitment to equal opportunity. We we had a great president. And we had great faculty reps and all of them really believed any cool opportunity for women. And so I I was in a wonderful position to be able to relay that to both the antidoto and. She didn't immediately jump when I also do the job. But I think eventually after she and Bill had talked extensively about the pros and cons. She decided to come. And I think that was the best recruiting job I have ever done in my life. That is an outstanding story. So, but you know, one of the other things coast during are used to talk to us when we were student athletes about being ambassadors for the state of Iowa, you know, there there's no professional sports there. And so she was really intentional about helping us to understand what an incredible honor. It was to represent the state, and she was she was very into that. She really was really into that. And then I thought about not only does she get to understand what it was to carry that mantle. But she got the people of Iowa to really buy in. Can you talk about what it was like that sell out crowd that you helped to orchestrate and facilitate as an athletic administrator? How did that come about? And what was the magic of that moment? Well, I have to say that a lot of the magic revolved around Vivian how successful she will. But it wasn't just the wins and losses. It was. It was her philosophy of sport that I think really connected with the people of Iowa she used to say that a co a good coach doesn't just teach basketball, skills and strategies what a good cook. Really good coach does is use the sport the teach people about life. So when young people graduate, the well prepared to deal with the ups and downs of life and ready to contribute, positively in a society and very meaningful way. And it was that message. I think that really resonated with the people of Iowa. And so when we say to try to break the NCAA record. We we had tremendous help from bump Elliott, you'll remember men's director and also George Raveling was a men's basketball coach at that time as I'm sure you remember and George did a TV commercial for us and a few days later after the commercial had run. Hayden fry looked into my office and said how come you never asked me to do a commercial? And I said I would love you to do a commercial. So Hayden did a commercial as well. And then damn Gable? Bit a commercial for us. So we had the help. But everybody's the men's department to try to break this record. But I'll tell you it was it was something. I'll never ever forget. I arrived at the arena nine o'clock Sunday morning. I think the game was one of two. I don't remember there were people lined up at the every no when I arrived at nine o'clock in the. Morning. And I was blown away. And by about eleven that morning every seat in the arena was filled. And I knew I had a problem because the the cars would lightened up bumper to bumper all the way from the arena to the interstate. And so I had to get on the radio. Plead with people to turn around and go back home because they Reno had been filled, but they can't coming and and created a problem because I started of people to close the doors, but we didn't lie to lock them because I would have been a a safety hazard. So people were pulling the doors to get in. And and since we have that huge concourse as you will remember there were a lot of people were filling that cone curse. Unfortunately, they were all very very well behaved. So we didn't have anything wrong it, except I go to very strong letter of reprimand from the university, which I. But it was a memorable. They really really memorable day and Vivian still has tears is when she talks about. So on that day. What was that date that you remember the date? Yes. It was February third. And how many people feel Carver Hawkeye arena for women's basketball games? Twenty two thousand one hundred and fifty seven. And this was not a final four. This was not a now. This was a regular big ten game against Ohio State and Tara Vandermeer was the coach Hus at that time. And it was it was wonderful. It really was it was it was very special. And I think that those are the kind of moment that every young woman deserve an opportunity to play in front of a passionate group of fans, and that was kind of entertainment that Vivian stringer. Brought to the basketball court where people understood that they were buying more than just a ticket. They run into the vision of a young woman having the same kind of athletic experience at a young man could and and reaching the heights of competitive basketball. So Dr grant thank you so much for being a part of the journey, and it is because you are that Vivian stringer was the head coach at the university of Iowa. So thank you for believing. Well, thank you. And you don't know how much pleasure. It has. Brought me to see all the young women who have come through our probe. Graham, young woman like you who have gone on become successful contributors to society. And I'm so proud of you. Thank you, Dr grant. Coach Cheney I played basketball for coach stringer at Iowa ball. My god. Then you. Somebody special because she had left me going because she thought to I wanted to go to treat. All right. You know that that that's so far from the truth. I think she said that there was never a finer coach, then John chainey, and even at Iowa we heard the stories of the legendary John chainey, especially when she got mad at us. She would say John would say a coach Cheney with say, and we would like almost shaking our boot she lost. She lost to way. See, you know, what I'm just so excited about the opportunity to talk with you when let China Robinson and Tarik called and said, hey, you wanna do this podcast or ESPN? I said if we don't get anybody else, we have to have John chainey because coach Cheney is the person who coach during or probably most admired in the coaching profession when she got started. And so she often talks about how much of her a loss of the early on came from you. And I just wondered when you first met her because she said, she Bolland tier to coach volleyball, softball and basketball. What did you think of this little lady who had decided not only she wanted to coach? But she wanted to share a gym space with you as well. Your first impression of giving stringer. Well, you know, you talk about in those days trying to remember it was it was doing the time. When when there was no NCAA for women. It was w or something of that nature. I don't think I think I'm not sure what that was. But trying to remember it was Imaculada, delta state and Tennessee, maybe and maybe a few other that we were confronted with fine. Remember, it was it was at a time. When would would women were fighting for equality at the highest level? They found themselves going into hotels, but foreign five or going to move one five or ten kids in the room or whatever no money for food travelling distances on home bus from money that they had to gather up the w eight did not cover expenses. I remember Imaculada playing Cheney state at a time. When when I was division too. And she was playing the top notch colleges in the country with women. I mean, traveling and we were running around asking for money in for help. In fact, one year that I can remember when she went to the final four from Cheney. Before they got there. They win the region was somewhere in the scope just before the the the national championship. And when she won a gate. I don't know what to take what team it was. But you can look that up everybody. Everybody was filled up reaching feel would just may. There's gotta be joyous and happy everybody. Only officials were running around saying how are we going to get there? There was no money. Only and Vivian, and I wanna run asking students for money when asking the student government for money, I can teachers sororities and and for these we will begging then they had to travel on the bus. Forget there at a time when there was no time nine so when jeez celebrating or talking about me think about the fight double women practicing in a gym with min re practice in the gym Whitman. We had a critic the first grilling male and female current with Chuck Daly, hell Greer, a major elite news all famous feel about him team song green and one major news. Also. Hall of fame from New Yorker can't take her name. But that was considering that consist of a group of people who are concern about women who could soon about equality. And coach stringer stood tall. She rented. Call some lot of difficulty hearing there because from here to now doing it became sick or stricken. What would Minhaj Itis? Her husband died in Iowa in a snowstorm where they could not get help. And now at Rutgers. She ran the causes situated one of sons ended up in a coma from automobile accident. So she's going through a lot. I'm quite sure when she stands and she thinks about this great v. Did she -ccomplish? She's gonna have memories memories of people. Members of MIM memories of of students. Memories of our students limits of Cheney students, she's the long list of students at Rutgers. But those wins and losses. Is a tribute to her and understanding going fighting for issues the greatest issues that we offered odd opposition to was kind of nine and but before it cut on it was hard. It was very hard for women, and they'll fight represents that. So the memories that she thinks about doing this, great feat and accomplishment is going to be just memories. 'cause Cheney when you were talking one of the things that I thought about was so stringer used to tell us to be right or wrong. But be something we always had to have an avoid have a Boyce and having opinion, she say black or white. But it's never great. You always have to have a thought you have to stand for something or you'll fall for anything. And as you were talking about memories, what will be your Fundus memory of Bibi and stringer a friend a coach. All they're both not just a friend would someone who would who work. Sticker nose into in the making better for others when you own on Rutgers campus right now, there's a great there's a great legend name by the name of Robinson who has a library on that on that campus and his name was Paul Robinson. This name of Vivian stringer is something that I will daily in my heart for my life because I can remember so many heartfelt cheering movements. Not for wins and losses, but because of the mini mini troubles that we had we saw, you know, small school at the time. And we saw it out. To seek some kind of solution. Right now, it's so freeing because of of mishandling of funds and everything else, and it's reduced itself to just food or students. I'm quite sure she feels badly. Millions students Miniver players will be there for she accomplish this feat. I want to tell them that. I remember them. I love them all in a little code string of very very much coach Cheney I'd like to thank you so much for your time today that will mean the world to her and these words will live forever. So thank you for your heartfelt sentiments. And we wish you think absolute best. Thank you so much. This long attached to minutes people the intimacy supported and goddess amount Nixon these around with people that really grieve is the it that I've been with this year, and I'm grateful and truly grateful. I feel fortunate that I wonder why. Appreciate that. Anyone would take the time? At epi case faces they came on it. So many of my Kobe's that that I was part of it. Damon from Iowa City and players it came to Iowa City, a recognize oh, my sisters and other the chain. So everywhere I had a player that flew from Hawaii. If they I mean. We notice, you know, maybe I'm doing something like people cared enough to want to wanna flour. And celebrate temp survey four, and I appreciate that that they did that. I can't believe it that Philip brought his little brother on our mission into orbit. How long until we get there alone. Get there. I'll get there. No. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with gyco. What's this button? What's this button? Do what's best button? This. I believe that could save you fifteen. Percent or more on car insurance. So I I just wanna say we have on the phone with those coach Marianne Stanley. And Joe let law to co stringers favorite people and two ladies that she was proud to have sit on the sidelines with her as a distant coaches, Joe letter former player and coach daily a longtime friend, so I'll start with coach daily bird and ask you today. Only. You had a chance to know coach stringer as a coach at Cheney at Iowa and at Rutgers can you tell us a little bit about how you saw her a ball as a woman and as a coach during each of those time frames and her life. Well, first of all, I'm delighted to have an opportunity to talk with you leads. So one of my friends, and of course, just a coaching legend in coasting. And so I'm thrilled to have a chance to just reminiscing. And and shares that's I'll tell you what that's question. Always here. There's so much that say about they've in string theory that the edge gives you know, they just aren't enough adjectives to describe her. But I have haven't been for a long long time. Actually, I was thinking about this. I went to scold Imaculada colon. A lotta kinda like tobacco do occur. Only miles apart. I didn't realize that clover or close by. But I went to school a time when the was first starting at team, and you know, I can tell you this from the day step foot on that campus to today for teams of always been prepare played. Fearless competing against whoever was in front of him. And nothing score. There's been lots of judgments to the other things, but you could always count on teams to be well coached very disciplined playing hearts for each other and for her, and, you know, just so many like I said, so many great things you say about how they played and hurting him that all the young women that plays. Joe elected speak to that. Because you'll let as you know, you. At iowa. But yeah, they should. Chance continued into the first was in the first NC double A's final four with Cheney state, which was actually interested that. At Old Dominion in nineteen eighty two. So she didn't waste much time making her more. I love that. You know, what I really love about the fact that she was in that birth intake championship is that it was she was coaching historically black college. And now in the NCAA tournament as it relates to feeding historically black colleges and universities at their sixteen feet and each region there number fifteen or sixteen and it's amazing how when you look at how we be bald HBU that gone from being a number one overall the to the bottom seen and that to me the travesty, and I'm still so disappointed about it. Because there's so many student athletes who are competing and playing hearts out. But just don't always get the recognition that they deserve even when they play a tough schedule, but Cochrane or change some of that during her time, and Joe let an IRA lucky that she found her way to I and co Stanley you enjoy let both. Oh that come stringer gold all out in her recruiting that and one of her best stories in how she convinced Joel at law to leave Florence, South Carolina. Go to the university of Iowa to play basketball when every school in the Carolinas with recruiting her Joe let you wanna tell us a little bit about the lengths that co-starring will go to get a kid to come to play for her. About during your home. This business. I mean, she'll do whatever it takes. And she did a great job when she came into my home, and she channels my dad at the she taught for two hours, Eva presentation and my dad called her out on a you know, it's a living. That was great. But there's something that you said in there that I definitely want to challenge you on. And she said, okay. What's that? And she's he said what you said that I can receive everyone of her or gains on this radio station. That's in. I was the I. My dad got up to the kitchen grab the radio plugged it up. She said you can get Jolo my door. You get that radio station on this radio right here right now, you can take daughter with you. And at that time. I was like, oh my God is raining outside. I'm not gonna be able to go. But she spent about an hour fifteen twenty minutes working at working at a radio. And finally, she got it. And when she came on welcome to w Jones live from I was she smacked ran on the on the kitchen table, I guess I got your door. So she very good recruiting good about you know, what she's all about. And she just great person. 'cause that's me to Lisa Carolina to go the university of Iowa. That was big. And so she started out recruiting you. And then you start at recruiting with co stringer, and you all were able to land a couple of number one, and the Mason recruiting classes, can you talk a little bit about what it was like selling coach stringer two parents and two young student athletes. We know she so do and thank God. But WHO, but what was it that you would say to young person into their parents about coach stringer that you'd think resonated with them and made them wanna know more. I mean, just from my heart in my experience. It's like, my my my testimony. I mean, everything she's sold me on, you know, the coming in the -versity of Iowa she did that and more. So it was just you know, speaking truth and being able to tell these young ladies f you know, if you're looking for so long it's going to, you know, have your back. Good bad or different who's gonna push you to be one of the best not just on the basketball court, but just you know, off about off the court will teach life lessons. She's the one for you. I mean, she always tells us every day about you know, you only get one chance. You know, and she always talked about being the dream. If you believe, you know, turn those drains into reality. Then people I would just tell them sweet foods and speak on my experiences that I had it university of Iowa and she would come in. And and seal the deal. This is what I do. This is why and this is what I can do for you. So it would extend a well for me because you know, it was it was a living testimony for me. And I just think every young woman in the country should have opportunity to you know, because co string. One of the things that I would love to know coach Stanley. Did you go to the final co stringer? Yes. One of the things that I think is remarkable Vivian is that you know, she's been to final four several times. She that. That's I AA von floor and championship game against the tech in nineteen eighty two. And then you guys went at our. Eighty three right? She went to the one eighty three and it was. Ninety three when I had thinking that. Yeah. It was in the nineties early nineties. She went Joe latte. You remember the air? She went. Ninety three ninety three. Yeah. Ninety three town you boss ter- was there who's at all American cold time. So t a Jackson Andrea Harmon virgin sailing ham, Laurie era, and they were all on that team. Tying the names. You're pulling out are, you know, national players to let with the national there. In his a great job of mentoring. Some of the finest talent, that's it's come out into college game. And you know, Rutgers went to the final four what twice in two thousand and then again in two thousand. So, you know, she's had multiple opportunities to coach your team in the final four, and you know, not too many people had that opportunity taking different programs. You know, it's hard Klein is hard. You know, takes everything that you've got and all the energy that you can kind to do it at. Three different places. Unbelievable. Really? You know, what Tokes daily I think there's only one other coaches on that. I think that might be required. I think he did it at three different places and coach during or did it at three different places, and I would have to say that that would have to be a part of her legacy and becoming a hall of fame. Coach one with the women's basketball coaches hall of fame and to the Naismith hall of fame. Joe let I think you were there both times she led her team to the final four at records. Right. Yeah. I was and she did it twice in the last time. We got to the national championship game and lots of Tennessee. But each time I was there with her. I got you know, what Joel I thought about how we were student athletes at Iowa, you're always so good at remembering the stuff that coats said, and you could mimic. Anybody? I mean, you we would just like have you mimicking coach bringing mine and how she was when she pledged in college and how she would show up at the party and coach trainer house. She would walk into the locker room and driving, and you got any famous our favorite little quotes or sayings. You wanna give out the little snippet of what a stringer might sound like maybe? She was just always say, you know, when I was a, you know, a player, she's, you know, hold the rope. You know, what you know, you guys, you know, you gotta get you know, yeller team. Make sure you hold the road. And she was like the matter you get through this needle all the whole team thirteen to get through. And she's many many different quotes. You always saying I never this story about you know, she's the tell she was a great storyteller. I just always liked to listen to every word you say, and she just always make us believe that we can move out, you know, by the end of the her pep talk, but invert per talk, you think you can just dunk and play Texas, and they just go like six seven. She was jumping. And I was like at the coastal gave her a talk about, you know, Trump board that the war was black and clearly greed. But by the end of that story, I thought what was really really blood? But it was great shamisen feel like you move mountains, you can conquer anything. And you know, and as a coach, you know, when I worked for her famous quote to me was like Gillette don't bring me a problem on a solution. And that just, you know, resume would be like I can't bring problems if there's a problem. I just put it on her desk. She made me think and shouldn't be outside of the box. And maybe think about what I would do in these situations. And you know, she just kinda kept pushing me and kept telling us don't take prisoners. She did that when I was a player, and as a coach, you know, we're not gonna go always want not coming through the back door was always walk into in in the front door, and our other fables like, you know, we're not going to settle for cry. Uh-huh. You know, we're we're not. That's not what we're all about. So there's so many different things. And so many different stories I could tell but one that I hold onto each and every day that, you know, keep working don't find a way to get it done. And you know, if there's a problem they grew out, and he working are. Joel ad when you were saying that all I could do my thought about how she's a we gotta make them Don eliminate make make no Nate outta lemons make lemonade, and then she would always say how you know. She said in practice, we would be going so hard. We'd be going at it. And you know, we'd be hitting shots we executing. We're working hard. And then she would say the one thing. I don't want. You to do is make me feel like you're ready like you're prepared. And then instead of taking the out to find stakeouts like Krista one week, actually, Donald. I did I need for you to be predictable. Who you are always. So you are in practice. Let that person show up in the game. I mean like see with little and stuff, and you'd be like, what don't run me the drive through at McDonalds, and we would all just like look at each other. And we would die die laughing, but knew how to energize she knew how to energize a practice. You know, what what what are you all think what what what got kids to buy in Cochrane, your is not easy by any stretch of the imagination and her practices can be some marathon type mental exercises. So. What what what either of you say about her practices are hurt game preparation, which is far exceeds the norm. There yet. I'll let you. I'll tell you what you know in coaching preparation means a great deal to ultimate outcome, and I can sit there is never never catch her leaving a stone unturned, you know, or an answer like fill. It saw at the problem. Finding every adjustment. Everything that could happen any game. And I think the Vivians credit. She wanted to know that her players were well prepared. Over prepared. You know, in the sense that no matter what someone threw at them. They were ready, and I'll tell you this. I'm assistant with the Washington mystics now working WNBA save a lot of pro players and the the Rutgers players to a player or people that are less they compete. They don't shy away from hard work, you know, shy with. And that's all the daily preparation that you see in Vivian strand practice. There's no short shrift on things. There's no skipping over the details. And you know, that can it at times, it can be tough, you know, practices at times can be on. But you never come away. Having a sense that oh, we forgot to cover. This all we're not prepared for that never a chance of that happening. When you said that about how she's always as mall things are small, but they're major. Yeah. And. I still say those they Volvo Badri, and I'm going to speak on this say about the players by buying into prepared. You know, as, you know, an assistant coast peparation, you know, now, I mean, we were you can, you know, about this new are Scott enforce the almost sixty pages 'cause you afraid that you know, you had one detail, and it wasn't there your whole port. She wasn't going to look at. So there was a cut. But I knew that was just an option that, you know, just a read I had to put that on that Scott report because you did not want to come up that she was watching film, and she saw it and it wasn't on that report. So, you know, paying attention to detail in heaven our players to be prepared. It also carries over, you know, now that I'm a assistant coach, I, you know, overdue. My Scott report sometimes. How many players does she have and WNBA coach Stanley mentioned something about cleared WNBA. She's had quite a number of layers the WNBA too. I think one WNBA championship. I think healthy move a championship with the tackle a monarch and Tammie Brown won a championship with the Indiana fever, and as Carson, I think is one think happy pundits on. On. Essence Carson, you know, in in the kind of like, I said is that tangible? I thought about ten. Schill edward. When you know. What's obey for her time as a national player eared, Iowa when there was no WNBA? And then those players I, oh, I remember Yulon Delaney, and they talked about pie, and they talked about their former and you remember Lisa long and meet the Beker at Iowa Joola absolutely is all insider. I mean Brandt the price with an all American. It was just so many enjo- let even got it dug it into the hall of fame in Iowa and went on the plate for the Globetrotters. So co stringer has had some really really good player Tricia watt played at Iowa. She's now executive with bad bad than beyond people just have gone on to do some amazing things. But Joe I wanted to ask what's your funniest maybe a string of story. Got one in your back pocket. Oh my God. There's so many. I know we used to always we have our visits and official visits and go to our house, and we will always play not really life to just at light with deacons and our pastor and play the piano, and just, you know, seeing and desserts are things the moment that it was done in the mall that will do it using coast do that law, which you get the Mike and get on the piano like because you play the piano, but it was his stories that were recruiting this. You know, I was there and the piano the piano player, and we all start, you know, doing sermon, and we will last attacks the other day, I laugh sometimes when some of the things that were, you know, working together. That is awesome. I wanted to ask you both co stringers won a lot of games and tonight or November thirteen. They'll have an opportunity to. Hopefully, pull out their one thousand victory if they were going to hang up banner. In the Raffard at Rutgers, and it had the name seed, Bibi and stringer on it. What else should appear on that banner with her name? I'd like for each of you to respond that they're hanging banner and the Rafter it will read and big letters c Vivian stringer. What other words should appear on that banner? And piracy living legend. Leger? She's probably she's the one of the best ever. Did this? Wow. I don't know. I think it's bad or. But I would say. Class. Wow. Plan living legend one of the best to ever coach this game. Though, the word that I think would make anybody's heart jumped and those are words. That anyone would be proud to have shared with their name. And so ladies. I'd like to thank you for your time. After new is there anything else that you would want to say, you know, maybe I didn't pose a question that would allow you to say it so just like to offer you an open mic to. If there's anything that we might have missed or you want to say that you didn't have an opportunity to say. I'll just say that I'm truly truly grateful and last to have opportunity to not only play for her work and with her. And I just wanna thank her for just giving me that opportunity to do both that oh, you know, forever being dead it to her for something in the small rural South Carolina in believing in me in porn everything. She had into me. So everything my successes that I've had or I've cheesed playing and coaching credit her I give God the glory. But I give co-starring love as well. Because she pushed me she saw something needed. I really didn't see myself. So I'm truly truly honored that she's getting this award lasted I had opportunity to play for her job. Get some of these winds and coach beside her for her to get those winds. But I I'm I'm humbled. I'm honored grateful. I'm blessed and just wanna learn that I love her, and I'll be forever. Tour. Joe Larry, we, oh, we oh really a Hatcher bouquet of flowers because she was the one she was that France's Marianne, and she was the one who Toko stringer about two and hotel to is also that thousand win clubs. So great miss knows greatness. And I am really excited that coach hatch will Saul something special in you and was willing to pass it on when she was at a division two school and felt like you were bigger than her team. But she wanted to make sure that you will with a friend. And so that's really special. Kodaly? They what would you say? Money. Tell them so excited and thrilled for her this uh credible night tonight. There are a lot of people that will share the evening with our physically there and many many anymore who will not be able to be there. But I wanna think they'd be in for her friendship over the years. One time friend of mine, and she's been so much more than just a colleague and coaching buddy buddy as very supportive of me real my career. And I'm just so real that on this night. She's going to elevate herself into that very elite group of five or six of one thousand games and in the process, so it's been enriched so many lives players young women and also staff people, and and people connected to universities that she's represented. Isn't a classier person out there? And I'm so thrilled for her and just wish her well. Thank you so much coach family. I noticed those words will mean a lot to coach. And thank you. Joe let we are pre. She ate both of you ladies but sharing a little bit of your reflections about coach stringer with. I hope you vote have a fantastic thing. We just want to send a huge. Thank you to Felici hall, Alan and all of the guests who have made this podcast so special. We hope the fans enjoyed it. We hope you now have a better idea of the impact of coach c Vivian stringer. Congratulations to coach stringer on one k good luck to Rutgers through the rest of the season. And we hope that you will continue to download and listen to around the rim podcast. You can find us on the ESPN app or whatever podcasts Accu used as go in search around the rim. You can find us on Twitter at around the rim. Pied you can Email us at around the rim podcast at D mail dot com on Twitter. I am at let China Robinson to Rica is at she knows sports underscore. So he does up with comments ideas thoughts suggestions shares. But thank you so much. But before we go you've been hearing snippets of an interview that coach stringer had and then we're gonna finish off this pod. Cast with the rest of that interview. We are grateful to coach stringer for the sharing, and we hope that you pick up even more nuggets than you already have throughout this podcast. So we hope you enjoyed the interview we will see next week. 'cause during this is a Torika foster from ESPN radio, you mentioned not too long ago that obviously winning thousand games means playing a lot of games. What advice or words of encouragement, would you offer to young coach right now who maybe struggling in your coaching career or thinks that you know, it's going to take a while to get to where you are what kind of advice, would you get them to motivate them to continue coaching in continue on the road that they're on. The big thing is really another with all your heart. All the because he love it. You know, I don't know to this day. What me as my heart beats Whitley me. Get suicide about this opportunity. Just want to gate where they can't wait until I get a hamburger the mowing down the road. And we're gonna see concede in Maryland place or workers. I mean, this is. Westwood have is here today is as soon as they have that loving. There's so many elements. Taking leaf. It hurts in the near in talking about takeaway from. It's the things that they could lead to. If it's the parents, sometimes involves one coach's car coaches of integrity, and what they're doing healthy. To help the players their progress. You know in toward. Also bandit. Yeah. It's a game. And I know that I know that I know that I know that I think it's all the days. About helping them to grow with women. Young women. You don't reach into form. Two point of this affable like I'm trying to talk to lady. He's gonna be a great. But I wanna make sure she's aware either reach out to the people help people to to to make things happen. I want people to be responsive. And so I have so lucky that when I look at this and thinking. We we are women at ESPN. You're getting chance to ask me questions about that. You know, we have an opportunity to have help young women to get their degree. Who knows what he's doing? Because that's the weight that there's one unearned and so the young don't be discouraged but make one one you've got to have an athletic director. Gotta have a president of the university of leaking do. What I say. Because if you don't. Listening to. 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The 25th Season Is Underway

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The 25th Season Is Underway

"The with let china robinson fans and welcome to a brand new episode our first episode of wnba season. Twenty twenty one of your espn w around the rim podcast. My name's china robinson. I'm your host join as always by my fantastic and fabulous producer to rica foster bradsby and season. Twenty five is here. That one's for the haters. Everyone that said the wnba wouldn't last. And how long is this going to be around in. Our women really playing basketball. Yes been there done. That in the league is stronger than ever. So you want to get on board you want. Subscribe to this podcast. You wanna be a part of this magical season because we have one hundred and forty four. Maybe a few less this year of the best the best women's basketball players in the world into rican. I will be bringing you all the action special guests in lots to talk about during this twenty fifth season of the wnba. And today's show we will cut recap the first weekend of wnba coverage are opening weekend with our espn analyst. Carter the new york. Liberty are off to a three star so we bring in the one and only edeka. I ala to give us the scoop on. What's going on with sabrina. Ness goo who messed around and got triple double already only six games into her wnba career and then we will also have a special guest in alexis robinson someone who has been a key contributor to the growth of the game when the wnba particular what she's done with the league pass to make sure that people can watch games. You know what i'm saying because this is about to be fire season is already like already so you have not had an opportunity to catch it. The league passers important. Because you play all the games that okay. I mean you need to be able to go back and watch the wall to wall action because this weekend was very interesting as we start season number twenty five. But we'll recap that with andrea we do want to point out a couple of things You can join us in the hashtag. Wnba twitter conversation. So if you have a twitter account and you wanna talk about the wnba use the hashtag. Wnba twitter shutout twitter folks. Who are doing an amazing job in promoting the league we already mentioned the league pass Lots of announcements this year. That will get into our future episodes like the commissioner cup but player movement. Definitely the headline. Tina charles and dc. Can't parker in chicago chelsea gray and vegas welcoming players back that set out last year. There's so much to cover and we will do that As this season rolls on sending a special shoutout though to number one to make a catching who was inducted into the women's basketball hall of fame this past weekend catch. We love you proud of you. You embody tenacity and humility. Like no one. I have ever met in my entire life You are the go the best two way player to ever play in the wnba and we are so happy for you. Congratulations also to kim. Mulkey amd barbara stevens. Who both went in from the women's side into rica. they announced the twenty twenty one hall of fame. Right who we got a did we are going to see enshrined this year alana griffin a made hello sacramento monarchs pledging took them to a championship. Two thousand five. She's also a seven time all star in a two time olympic medalist. We're going to see the ozzy great lauren jackson. How awesome is that. And you know we're still at a high that she joined our twitter space like a month ago so we really don't act now that we can say we had famer on twitter. Space will learn jackson's going in and she's a austar three times negate any p. championships with the seattle storm. Two thousand four in two thousand ten. I mean what hasn't lauren jackson done. Amazing and also. We're going to see our good friend of the podcast. Val ackerman I the first wnba president commissioner of the big east. She's just a trailblazer as an executive as a person a former player. So valid at deserving of this honor. We're excited to see all three of them. Get this opportunity to to be recognized in honored as legends of our game. Yeah i mean it's a special time when you look at you know the women that were starting to see go into the hall of fame the contributors to our game the people that have been backbone for our sport and have really built it to what it is and we also want to say a special special shout out to our own friend at espn. Who will be recognized as part of the twenty twenty one class and that is none other than the carol stiff. We've talked about her on several times at our podcast. And just how. She has been a trailblazer in the coverage of not just wnba women's basketball but of women's sports. In general carol stiff will be the recipient of the john w baughman on lifetime achievement award. She will be honored at the hall of fame weekend which is scheduled to be capped with the enshrinement ceremony on september eleventh. So congratulations to all of our friends around the podcast. Also congrats to simona gusts. Hopefully you have listened to our one on one. Our exclusive one on one with simone if not check it out The future hall of famer announced that she is retiring from basketball after three. Final fours at lsu after four wnba championships with the minnesota lynx. After three olympic gold medals. She's done it all and now she is going to be assistant coach with the la sparks. Moving over a seat. So congrats simone and as one of the best storytellers in one of the most interesting minds to listen to you will want to go back and tap into that around the rim podcast episode with augusta's. I think that's it. Challenges tina charles. She scored her six other career point. Moving up the scoring list. She is still looking for that championship in washington. That's one of the storylines this year But yeah lots to get into and i up with us is a new face to our espn wnba coverage but not a new face to espn. And not one to the women's basketball world we are excited to recap the season so far with the one and only espn analyst andrea carter. Welcome to the show andrea you so much for having me. I can't believe i'm covering this league. And i love what you said about the energy of the ncaa tournament just feeding right into this wnba season. It has been so much fun right from the jump out. That's so awesome for us to hear from you today because you were a part of insead aa coverage as an analyst and now you're with us on wnba. I just feel like those of us think it's a cover women's basketball year round like we get the best of all worlds right. We get to watch these players as they get through their college years. And then into the league and into their all-star they hope or championship. Whatever it is they do with the next level. It's really awesome to see their careers. Go full circle so with that being said if you have been asleep somewhere or a whole it is the twenty fifth season of the wnba and everyone is super super excited to talk about this league. It's resilience all the history that has been made over time. I know andrea when you and monica were in the studio you guys were having conversations about this twenty fifth season and you've heard so many things. What excites you most. What was one of your takeaways about this. Twenty fifth special year after covering opening weekend. Oh gosh you know. I just think that the the way that the players came out and even some of the teams that are still missing their key. Pieces came out in just had so much energy in fight in toughness. Absolutely love seeing. Sabrina comeback love seeing tasha clouds. Come back and i say the magazine didn't play very much All last season so it's been really fun to watch the pieces start to fit together. I've covered ncaa and that's such a wide you know. There's so many teams in there so many players but for the wnba. It's like an exclusive club in so when someone misses last season in comes back their impact of such a small group. Such an exclusive club is so fun to watch to see all the movement right so candidates playing with the sky and chelsea. Gray playing with the aces. It's such an exclusive. Every little detail has an effect on the game on the team and just seeing that from the very beginning. It's been a lot of fun in the games have been good. We've had last second shots. Last-second threes from sabrina unesco who people call the baby goat from diana taurasi who people call the goat in. It's just top to bottom from the veterans to the rookies to people that have been on a team for eight years to the people who are just their first year with the team. Everybody's come into play. Yeah it's been a lot of excitement in great play but to your point you know i think opening weekend has one hundred percent been defined by what the new configuration of these teams. Look like right whether you are a vegas fan and you're wondering kin. Liz cambay squeezed back into this lineup. With an mvp as the wilson and how does chelsea gray fit john jones into wanna bonner off to a great start. Connecticut's three you know without a list of thomas Those players finding their chemistry. But it's also about a washington team that is without elena delle donne. That is without. Myisha hines allen. That is without a leash clark in finds themselves. Oh in two to start the year. So it's definitely what teams have what they don't the new pieces candace. Parker looked fantastic and her first game with the chicago sky. did not play in atlanta due to an ankle injury but i i have a feeling that this will continue to be a storyline. And we'll talk about some of those teams as we go through. So let's look back at the standings maybe surprising to some. I know definitely for me. Well i guess considering some of the players that are missing. I have seen this happening but connecticut sun is three. You know they did most of that. Work without jasmine thomas who was back now but the teasha hide him. Indefinitely stepped up New york liberty is three. You know Again we'll talk a little bit more about new york liberty later on as we have liberty expert. Erica yala joining us to talk a little bit more about sabrina. What's happening in brooklyn Chicago sky is to know. But maybe in a different way. The we expected Khalil copper has put her name on the way too early. Mvp list and has been just amazing. For james wade's group group. That's more focused on the defensive end. What did you see from chicago in the early going that stood out to you. That isn't been really impressive with khalil copper because you know last season with lord of her breakout season especially when diamond wasn't able to play in the world when she left the bubble and so then i heard people talking about how maybe she would be sixth man of the year. Maybe she would come off the bench. And how would she adjusted that new role and she's like no absolutely not. I'm here i'm ready to go and i love that. Just her play their played their links on the defensive event. When you've got kaliachawk you've got diamond. Deshields candice in the first game. I thought had a really big defensive impact as well And then the second game the grid in the toughness in the ability to get that win in in atlanta environment. Because i was there where that whole crowd was fueling atlanta for that comeback right. They played nugget. You bug chicago. Had to hold it down in. Get the win and i think that they look together. They look like they're on the same page. I really liked the point that you made in the game win when cancels playing that that is a sort of a pressure. Release for courtney vandersloot and she is a little bit more freedom with candice on the floor. And so i think just the way that the pieces fit together for chicago in the way that clear copper has continued to step up in. Continue to rise. They are definitely a strong team from the start. Yes to the atlanta dream crowd. Because you and our both in the building and rene has got that thing. I mean from my chicken tenders to knock if you buck like. At l. is back in full effect ethics gateway center arena. That's gonna be a great place to watch games but the dreamer down twenty three points and five back but absolutely felt those moments. Winkler copper wasn't on the floor when you look numbers to start the season. What twenty three points against a at atlanta nineteen points and eight rebounds against washington. These are two road games so when we thought we were gonna come in and talk about candidates and diamond according vandersloot shoot even as ray stevens who is still alpert is going to be a welcome back to the like. There's so many allie quickly. We're talking about copper and make no mistake. She's not a player. That's going to blow you away with just the most fancy jump shot or the skilled move. She is an athlete that has added skill to what she could do on the court in all of her effort bottom line like she is going to bust it down the court. She'll be an every possession she'll be in every play So it's really cool to see her getting some early this season. Okay moving onto the dallas wings who've only played one game but it was against the la sparks at la and they won. I thought vicki. Johnson's young group looked good. I thought i saw you mentioned something about the transition. Game of dallas did anything stand out to you with them and that win they are so fast. The dallas wings are the fax team in the wnba. In my opinion. I don't think team is faster than that right. You ever regained goma. While you have a leash agreed. Got maria jefferson. Who's back the speed that they play with and get up and down the court. I thought it was fantastic. They didn't run out of gas either. They had that speed the entire game. When i really liked to. Was there post players. Charlie call your also has speed in length in mobility isabelle harrison has speed in length in mobility and so. I thought that the pace that they laid with now. La didn't do anything really to slow them down. So i think the question for the dallas wings are team is able to slow them down. How does that speed transition to the half court because you know sometimes when you start playing too fast in the half court gain it can lead to turnover as it can lead to just sloppy play or people running into each others interested to see when the game is slow down if you can slow them down what it looks like but what i think it could look like is a controlled speed. Changing speeds from all those players in the dribble drives in spacing especially with the ball in their hands from those guards if they can control that speed when a team does put them in the half court game and get on the hips of defenders in attack. In charlie collier's making cuts in getting the ball. And i just think that the dallas wings could really put something nice together with the speedy and tempo that they play with their youth is an advantage. I think we're gonna see that some throughout the season the wnba. where yes. You want veterans on your team but as we saw last season with even the washington mystics. And the dow's wings being those two teams that were vying for that playoff spot. Their youth wasn't advantage. You know the schedule. Last year was grueling. They were playing every other day. And some of these young cats were like bringing on like we got the legs. We're you know we're out here to run but a leash gray quietly. I thought she had a her sophomore season. Second season in the wnba was a rather quiet one for after being league rookie of the year. But she is not getting. I don't think the respect that she's do with how she's played the last couple of years. Playing at a high level in the bubble was was hard for anyone and i thought she did that and i know she's battled some injuries over time but with her our rica and hopefully them getting what they need from their their young interior. This could be a really fun team to watch all right moving on the seattle storm. The storm had to play vegas twice twice in their first two games. I don't know that any coach in this league wanted the schedule that they had coming out of the gates because you know people are still moving pieces around and their roster spots are still in flux and so for these two teams that we expect to buy for a championship to have to play this earliest kind of crazy Seattle came out of opening weekend to one. They did lose their second match up to vegas. Baiju lloyd looked like. She is d to me. She's often the piece of seattle success. That is a little bit underrated Looking at her numbers to start the season dray. She's avenue twenty one points per game She's got she shooting forty eight percent from the field. Forty two from three like just looks like she's in a zone and very comfortable. Where did you see what stood out to you about jewel to start. I know that her offense in her scoring is fantastic. She is scored through in true her elevation. You know. I remember it all too well. Because i've seen it just first hand right in front of me. Her ability to elevate in get her shot off in the quickness of her first. Step to just blow by you. It's extremely frustrating as a defender to have to guard. Jewell loyd Something i remember all too well but you know. I'm going to talk about her defense. Because her lateral movements in her defensive stance on the perimeter. I was so impressed. I didn't see very often. Jewell loyd get blown by low. She's in stand. She is moving side to side. I think you know. Dan hughes talk to us actually about her wanting to be a complete player he mentioned something coming out on some article that came out. That said she wasn't as much of a complete player as expected to be. And i think that was like a trigger for her and she was like no. I am going to be a complete player. So i think that the defensive side of the game all her energy being focused on that side it allows the offense to just flow freely. Because you know when you're thinking about offense and maybe this is just me. When i was a player when your mind is on offense it puts pressure on the offensive. Then when you lock it on the defensive end the offense then can just flow in. It's all just reading in reacting. And she's so good on that end of the court the now she's putting it together on both ends of the floor. I like her. Shot selection elevations her ability to score Just an all around. She has come in really put a stamp on the start of the season for seattle. We knew coming in drain. This is a point that you made is well. That seattle is gonna need some help on the defense event without clark and tasha howard so Going to need some players to definitely step up and it's great to see jewel become that complete player. Okay phoenix to in wine. I was impressed with the mercury They had a tough schedule. They play three road games to start and not only that they played three road games and five days You know their one loss was to a very good connecticut. Sun team in connecticut britney griner fouled out of that game Keeping in mind that you know phoenix is a team that is still trying to get their rhythm with kia nurse who i thought played much better in their in their third game of that stretch against the washington mystics. But they gonna take a little bit of time for all those pieces to jail The biggest factors bg. And i know you. And i both feel the way in terms of what what kind of mindset. Bg is in and she can dominate the game. If she wants to win she wants to so. That's venus phoenix. This story The big three. And i thought they had a nice stretch in considering they're scheduled to open las vegas aces It's back chelsea. Gray is back. And that would be noted in the twenty three assists per game average by las vegas. Any concerns early with them dra. I was very concerned after game one because game one against seattle. They didn't look like they were on the same page on the offense event or the defense event i know i ran a couple of clips showing seattle's but for vegas there was one where and this is telling you know. Two players kelsey plum analysts can beige were pointing to chelsea gray expecting her to help in. She didn't help. They scored in so they were just little signs than in on. The offense have been liz. Be going to screen someone and then turning around. Because maybe that wasn't where she was supposed to go or to players cutting to the same spot right. There were just little signs in game one on both ends of the floor rows like wait a minute either. Someone something is going on and not everybody is on the same page. I don't know what flipped with them for game two but my concerns were pushed back at bay because game two against seattle. All those things looked way better defensive energy getting to the free throw line offense of flow. They look more intentional. So i do think that it's just putting the pieces together. And maybe one thing that the team was confused about got settled in got communicated and explained in. I think from that second game against seattle they just build from there and players get in more game shape and they just play together even more defensive energy. I think they can do a lot of really good things while. I was eager to see what vegas would look like. They haven't had a ton of time with chelsea gray necessarily but also. My question was what is going to happen now. That angel mccoughtry has gone the margin for error. Got a little bit smaller without angel. Mccoughtry right She is out with an acl. We send our thoughts and prayers to angel. But what does that mean at the guard spot. I mean listen dear. Hamby is probably going to have to play more three. Obviously they have requested williams. Kelsey plum's going to miss them time three on threes. And there'll be some moving pieces. But jackie young showed us what she was capable of right like the double double points and rebounds you know there was a lot of questions just she had gone number one overall. You know when she came out of of notre dame. I remember sue bird telling me that year that she would pick jackie young first overall over. Sabrina unesco now unesco did have another year of school and jackie decided to leave early. But i think people see a lot of promise and jackie young and so much of it has to do with her versatility. Her strength how powerful she is with the game. I mean if she can refine her offensive skill. Look out because she's got a lot of other pieces and she may be the player that has to step and mccoughtry absence. Okay the la sparks. We've only played one game so we might have to take it easy on the sparks to start right like they are obviously adjusting to live without candace parker and chelsea gray christie. Tolliver lavars back in the lineup. That's a new piece. Erica wheeler lupis. I mean they've got today goo mckay back. So i'm gonna take it easy on the sparks star but some of those numbers put up by the dallas wings and that loss ninety five point nine. Four points Dallas scored they also shot fifty three percent from the field. They also shot forty seven percent from three point range. So defense is probably going to be on the top of the list for derek fisher group but definitely a team that is still getting their legs up under them all right so moving along atlanta dream stands out there steals sixteen steals per game active on defense but boy. They need some help on the glass and they have got to finish better. What did you see as you were sitting in the arena watching atlanta from kennedy carter in this rather small quick and explosive back cord that is trying to wreak some defensive habit The havoc dra. Why did like their fight in their energy because a team that is small and is getting dominated on the boards and is in a big deficit could easily fold and you know with me being from atlanta. I think that's not what atlanta does right. We don't fold we fight. And i think atlanta's spirit fuels through kennedy carter in courtney williams in tiffany hayes in all of those players and so i think that their athleticism there fight their ability to get steals on the defensive end makes them tough on but on the offensive end. There's gonna be a little bit more just gelling together in for me. We have to talk about courtney williams though because ten for nineteen twenty four points ability to score she knocks down three threes in just fuels that comeback i think between her in kennedy carter in tiffany hayes at least having those three guards their energy in their ability to score the basketball could really put some things together for atlanta. I think just like the way we talked about dallas. This is going to have to be a team. At speeds up. The game that uses their youth that uses that quickness. But there's gotta be some discipline. And i think that's the hardest thing sometimes when you want to press the seem does want to press on. They do want to play high risk high reward defense. Can you do it with discipline. Foul trouble has already been an issue for them early in this young season You know just knowing your positions on help like if you're going to play that kind of style there's gotta be some disciplined to go along with it but definitely a lot of potential in a team. That's going to be exciting if nothing else to watch as the season goes on all right. So rounding out the standings after the atlanta dream bingo we got the washington mystics. We already talked about the missing pieces. I think ariel atkins has got to be the player that kind of steps in and takes control in. Hey bottom line is washington miss a lot of makeable shots leilani mitchell. And you know to resupply as aunts. They got open. Looks got a nail him because you know it was a little dismal but as far as the shooting percentage to start the year minnesota lynx. Oh in three but they are still without a visa collier. Not sure to cheryl reeve is settled in. What she's doing at the point guard spot we saw aerial powers filling in at that point guard spot but dre they had a lead over seattle a nicely and then they let the storm back in. What do you see happening in minnesota dry. I do think that the jailing piece is really important on. We talked about that with multiple teams. But i think it was telling that they had a nineteen point lead against seattle. They came out of the gate. Strong they're really just had that fourth quarter. It was almost like i don't know where they gassed. Or they just unsure of planes. Gather in those tight situations you know when you haven't played with the team and you've got new pieces you've got aerial powers you've got kayla mcbride and you're kinda like who who does step up in these situations. Who do we go to in these situations. That's the piece that's missing because seattle. They know all right. We're we're getting a comeback. Here amr gonna drool and we're gonna get sue bird and we're going to get reinstated and they know they have that just connection in they have that fuel in that sense for each other like all right. There's my teammate. There she is. That's her spot to get her the ball right there. In especially with sue bird you talked about. Maybe there being some not confusion but not decisions made from the point guard position. You need a point guard to withstand a comeback. You need a point guard that is set in knows exactly what is going on to when you haven't scored in five possessions to get the right shot and so i think it's just those pieces come together. Playing together in a physical is going to be a huge addition on her civility. Her ability to score For the minnesota lynx while we will keep our eyes on minnesota the last group is the indiana fever. They are in three. The fever have a young team. Another group that. I thought did some some unique things in in terms of their roster and adding experience like towel. Lavender and daniel robinson. That'll help them. Because i felt like they needed some vets that can kind of get them settled in. But we'll keep an eye on in indiana as the season goes on as well the one thing i do want to know as we look at points per game so far in this young wnba season one of my takeaways youth movement. And i said this last year the top scorers right now in the league are benign delaney. Alicia gray breanna. Stewart khalil copper. Sabrina s q. Three out of five of those players are just really spiting their stride. I would say i with copper in there as well. Though she's not a young player in st we. We know what she could do. But laney gray unesco like they're these young players are really out for their like they respectively. But they're here to win so I i think that's going to be one of the funnest parts as watching kind of how. These new faces taken troll of their teams. You know keeping in mind that the cba and didn't allow for a bunch of vets to exist on anyone roster so it seemed like phoenix for example is going to be top heavy with experience. But then they're going to need to sophie cunningham's and You know the a lot of smith to come off the bench which they did in washington and do things so That's something that i. I'm really excited about looking forward to and andrea. We appreciate your time with us. You are so buttoned up so knowledgeable. I mean we are beyond delighted to have you on our wnba coverage. I believe this is your second appearance on around the rim. But you'll be a regular this summer so fans. You could follow andrea on twitter. Tell them where they can find. You dre my twitter is andrea underscore carter. Because there's actually two accounts. My old one got hat so andrea underscore. Carter is my twitter in. That's my instagram You can follow me there. I've done two appearances in the studio the wnba two appearances on around the rim podcast in one hundred percent looking forward to more because both of these things that have done just this week are so much fun with china. I love working with you. Love talking to you. Thank you for having me. We are so excited to follow you. Dray you are a star honey. I am so proud of you. Keep going shadow to rising media stars but yes fans stick with us we have more wnba coverage after this so wnba fans if you have been paying attention to what's happening in the league great if not we're here to get you caught up and one of the big story lives to start is when you go to wnba dot com. You should fairly often so check out what's happening in the league. You know what's going on with new other than listening to around the rim. You would see that the new york liberty are three and oh to start the season. Connecticut sun is three. Oh still undefeated newark. Liberty and chicago is to an ode the three undefeated teams to start the two thousand twenty. One wnba shocker. I know too many of us. But maybe not a shock to those that cover the new york liberty. We'll find out because we have with us right now. Someone that we absolutely love and adore and enjoy having aren't around the podcast who does a fantastic job and everything. She covers from the wnba to hockey to just being a dope woman of color. Please join us in welcoming edeka. I ala to the show. Welcome edeka grass. Yes jain okay with the pronunciation. I see you do you do but did you get the role that this morning house like china mexico for a vacation and now she like she. You know how to speak spanish. I saw the house like okay but way act came home and literally was saying olot to everybody i was like oh la and i was like what no hey like i am and i don't know if my spanish got any better that entire time i was there i definitely tried to use it but Yeah no promises there. I did have a nice a nice little break though. Okay so edeka. We are excited to hear about the new york liberty. We're gonna take some steps back before. We talk about sabrina before we talk about what this team has done. So far on the season. Let's take a look at the roster right so they added michaela onion wet a in the draft. They added the richards They added sami whitcomb from seattle. Along with the tasha howard who hasn't even touched the court. Correct that is. You're still waiting on tasha howard to arrived the liberty were entering a the offseason with the number one pick they again won the lottery And rethinking all right a another number one pick but they traded that to get howard and But we haven't even seen her yet so they're already three no without their big free agency. Piece would argue that benign aleni actually has really stepped up. And that's another move That that the new york liberty made and benign has made a huge difference british team. Yeah it's incredible to see the level of confidence that laney is playing with. We we talked. We talked to andrea. Carter on this podcast as well and you were mentioning Khalil copper and how. She's way too early mvp candidate. We've got to put laney in that conversation as well to rutgers products but she's averaging twenty three points per game shooting the ball at fifty three percent from the field fifty seven percent from three point. Line just. I mean incredible. And she's got a complete game she can do it all and i don't want her to get lost in the headlines. Because we are gonna talk about sabrina unesco in a moment because she has just been fantastic. Start the season but we will not overlook benign gellani. And what she is doing in her contribution so she was as you mentioned another changed the roster but the liberty are also expected to get rebecca allen Back in the mix and back in the flow. She is on the roster and i think she has played now in two games so she's got to get her feet wet but a player that i really enjoy watching And then also Liana odom has not played. What is the latest on her erica. Because she was what. I enjoyed watching expecting her to come back at some point here so naoto In injury she has a bit of a tweak to her left achilles which is actually already an injury that the new york liberty have had to adjust to as jocelyn willoughby full tear on his not available for the new york roster and so last update. We got from head. Coach wall hopkins. They're trying to take it Very careful they want they wanna make sure name has time to rest and they want to try to prevent as much as possible. Anything like what they saw with jocelyn. So it's really just kind of touching go with you. See her on the bench but she is in a boot right now. So we kinda survey the landscape here right of the new york liberty. Sabrina s limited last season because of injury only played. What three games. So we didn't have a large sample size of what she could do. I mean there's a lot of youth on this team right not just youth in terms of experience but you in terms of like you know but nigel laney. She was not until last season ever expected to carry a team so she doesn't have experience of being necessarily that goto player she stepping into a different role. But i really just love the pieces whether it's jasmine jones. That plays extremely hard. Sami wickham. that's coming from a championship pedigree. What have you seen collectively as a team from the liberty to start. That's impressed you. Well that's just it. It is a collective team. It's the sum of all the parts that has gotten the new york liberty to where they are. And you know number that you mentioned one part in lieu york city aka renewable connection without mentioning highly Now some full slept on kylie shook last season but i saw a lot of potential in her. I think she ever work out some nerves. I mean the i know you. Don't use the start of general. I must say okay was a little tough for a lot of people but especially rookies especially for a new york. Liberty team that alongside dallas is one of the youngest in the league but kylie shook has made huge strides for this team has stepped up with no natasha howard with Also kia stokes arriving late. Congress has been absorbing those starting minutes and doing a fantastic job if anything while hopkins going to have to figure out a once. Howard does come into the lineup. How he utilizes shook because unesco and shook and laney have been a fantastic trio for the new york liberty early on alongside semi wickham. Will hopkins has mentioned time over time that her experience on a championship caliber team is making the difference. Yeah yup i'm sorry. Go ahead no you finish. I was just gonna say You know but wickham is another player. Like laney leg rebecca allen even like a kia stokes that have not been expected to carry a team but again the complete pieces the sum of all of the parts make for a really nice new york liberty team and they're gelling very well and there's even more to come or so it would appear and you know everyone's kind of having to adjust this season But i'm very surprised by how quickly things and and granted listen small sample size. They beat indiana twice. Which expected to the indiana extreme at least from the outside looking in Minnesota team that is not quite yet at full strength. But i will say that Beating minnesota ever because of how good they are defensively. A how good they've been over the years and it always you know a tip of the hat for that but you lose kia nurse. Laser clarendon which we'll get to that in a moment Was released by the new york liberty. So that's a change. I'm jocelyn willoughby as we mentioned earlier is not playing this year due to a torn achilles in asia. You know we don't know when she will return as she is still recovering from kovac walker as well. So there's been talk of changes on this roster but the one thing i know. Everyone was looking forward to. Was sabrina unesco and we must. We must pay our respects because not only has she already had a game winner in this young season but she has already messed around. Got a triple double against the minnesota lynx. Twenty six points ten rebounds twelve assists the first wnba triple double in only her six game so she recorded her first career. Triple double faster than anyone in the history of this league. She's only the second player. Wnba record a twenty point triple double that other player was lisa leslie back in two thousand and four okay. She's twenty three years old and the next youngest player to record a triple double was deanna. Tweety who was twenty five years old. Her twelve assists in triple-double are the third most in a triple double in wnba history and she is just all out balling case. You don't know sabrina. s q the number one overall. Pick in the twenty. Twenty draft played three games last season. This is only the ninth. Triple double in wnba. His that really jumped out at me in this twenty five years of the league. So this is a special. And the first. In new york liberty franchise. So i have already seen. The queen of new york. People are calling her. The baby goat. Like what i mean. Wh what is it like right now around the sabrina fandom it there's so many ways you can go with this but what i'll say is someone who we are able to return to the arena. The excitements of new york liberty. Basketball game Maybe unbiased are going to madison square garden. But there is something special about that and the new york. Liberty fan base did their absolute best to recreate that in westchester county sensor while they were there for two years in between ownership from dolan to now joe and clara. But you're seeing that. Even with limited capacity people spread out it sounds like a full arena because of what this new york liberty team is doing and led by Just the theatrics of that. Come with a player like sabrina. Unesco i think another thing that's fantastic to watches and you and i to talk about this ahead of Sabrina draft that she's going to be a great wnba player. It was a matter of whether the new york liberty was going to be able to build a solid team around a great player. Because i don't know if you noticed. But i was asking tina charleston questions because dina charles could have been that player for new york but it never manifested and for whatever reason those rosters just were never able to give tina charles the support and i think you know early on with so many injuries. Tina's kind of playing that same role with washington. But with sabrina and the way that wall hopkins has built this roster. It is coming together sooner than i expected and more surprising ways that i suspect Than i expected sobrino. You know what you're going to get out of sabrina. But what. I think goes underrated about her game. And you actually. China might have mentioned. This is that she is really great teammates involved and her teammates and the coaching staff and everyone is buying into what the new york liberty style of basketball is an honestly as someone who covers the game as someone who grew up playing. The game has always been a fan of the wnba and new york. Is my home team. It's exciting to watch on sony levels. Yeah i mean it is incredible to see a team this young really under the bright lights and big stage. I don't know if there's another franchise where fans are more deserving and more desperate of a championship in a just a successful team overall. You mentioned the tina charles years which did not go as expected You know and new york is is a place where basketball is the mecca and people understand and appreciate me. I don't think. Sabrina could have landed a better spot But at the same time. I think people need to taper their expectations as well And allow her to mature. You know exit into the player that she wants to be because as great as she has been to star. I think people sometimes get carried away with the narrative And allow her to enjoy the experience of being a young player. I mean she's six games in to her. Wnba career so On the bego talk and the rasa that stuff like you know yeah good observations and the thing that i also absolutely love about. Sabrina is that she at least she conveys that she's unaffected. She's very much insular. She focuses on her game and if anything. Her injury has really made her hampered down on that She said to us before the first game to media. Actually i believe the a really great question and was asking how. Sabrina was handling. Those expectations and sabrina said listen. I had to let go of being focused on being who i was. I need to focus on being better. And if anyone is listening and they follow the kobe bryant philosophy. A lot of people call it. The mamba mentality. you hear kobe bryant. He would talk about the excitement. The excitement of coming back from an injury and revolutionizing and evolving his game. And that's kind of the the feeling that i got from what sabrina unesco is saying. She's blessed to be back on the court. She's excited and when she hit that three pointer to get the game winner. If you look at the tape she said i'm back. I'm a ha this kept repeating. I'm getting chills. Just thinking about it like that is a player not to be trifled with what i will also say though is i respect and appreciate that. This new york liberty team is willing to make the proper adjustments they got just dominated on the boards by indiana and in the paint by indiana in that first game they cleaned it up for the second game and they really focused on team defense when they played sylvia fowles because sylvia was sweet sale. You not going do too much you know. When it comes to fill in the paint. But kylie shook again was composed. I think she played the best defense on sylvia fowles and she did something that unfortunately i have not seen in new york liberty a lot. She boxed out. I know it sounds simple. But she was balling out making sure to body up sylvia. And that's why players like sabrina. Rescue able to get i think. She had eleven rebounds in that game against minnesota semi wickham coming in getting rebounds and that is buying in and the adjustments that they've made in only three games and even the adjustments that they make in game or something that i don't think a lot of people are talking about because of the sabrina. But if you watch new york liberty team. They are absorbing they're sponges. I think they're going to continue to make mistakes. And they did run up against a minnesota team than as you mentioned let. China has a lot of moving parts. They lost natalie trauma also. She's dealing with an injury. So i'm i'm excited to see what they do against. Maybe like a seattle team We saw seattle. Come back just to you know as we're talking last night from from deficit and this is the type of Poise that you have. When you're a franchise that has a championship pedigree. New york liberty unfortunately doesn't have that and has not been in the finals For quite some time. So that's where when they play teams that have been under that pressure when they have those players that can really rise up in neat and match. What a young. Sabrina unesco can do but has fifteen sixteen years in the league doing it. That's where the test is gonna come for this new york. Liberty team is going to be so fun watching the york. Liberty and eric guy will be giving us all the scoop before we let you go. Obviously a shocker. Too many of us. Hearing the clarendon Was wave from the new york liberty. What do you know about that situation. Oh wow another one of those. Where do you even start. If we're being honest it wasn't surprising. A lay clocked less than four minutes in the the first three games of the season when when leader clarendon was signed. I had some questions on as to whether she was the right type of veteran going back to again. We see with rebecca allen or even a benign delaney time in the league but not necessarily time Where they were the go-to player and then we had bradenton florida. Where leisure did everything that was needed. And more for that team on and off the court not just for the new york liberty but for the wnba and so in the context of all of that in some ways this makes sense. It's hard to say but this does make sense. You have to make space for natasha howard. Salary cap all of those things in on the other hand. It's a hard one to take. And that's why there's been including leisure. Asia themselves tweeted about it being and there not being enough spaces and then a week or so later ends up being on on the other side of it. But that's why the conversation around expansion even if it's just roster expansion like giving a teams in extra player to even that would really change what's the wnba and what teams can do leading up to their run to hopefully The playoffs and a championship. Laser is a very capable player In obviously has been a tremendous leader in the league. So it was. It was a tough pill to swallow and very surprising that the new york liberty. You couldn't find space or role for her on that roster now i haven't looked close at their cap She does have to wait. Forty eight hours now to clear waivers to be picked up by another team. The challenge is going to be what roster has a vet minimum at least that they can pay her when rosters so tight but it does raise a lot of questions in terms of just what what was training camp like you know. Did she play well in training camp You know what kind of what was good. Her performance look like was that a factor. I don't know But hopefully we you know we send obviously our love to laser Again i think the world of her on and off the court in Hopefully she will find the right fit. But i know that you Yeah it's been covering the liberty for years you know just some of the departure whether it's -tino or kia or you know different things that have happened over time Have been interesting to see. So you hope that this new york liberty young york liberty team can carry the load and that They actually find their winning ways in their stride because It we have to start digging up the history. There are some very interesting developments. That have happened over the years. But if you can prove that. It's made this franchise a winning franchise which i don't think. Three games allows you do that. Then we may be having a different conversation but long story. Short liberty are three and not start the year shot to show p one of my favorite wnba coaches. She is the bomb dot com and. I'm sure she's having a great time in new york right now eddie guy. Where can our fans fine. You can follow you this season. Well first and foremost. I just wanna thank you china and you to rica. Y'all are using and are definitely just Guiding lights for a lot of us coming up in the game so thank you but as far as me. You can find me on most active on twitter. That's at lindsay zero eight in d. s. a. y. zero eight. all right. you got it there. Make sure you go and follow right now. Eddie got on twitter and thank you so much for joining us for your time and we will be keeping our eyes on the new york liberty as the season goes on and hopefully having you back on at sounds great. I would love to be back basketball fan so this season. We are trying some new things on around the rim podcast and that includes some new segments and this particular segment. It's called how it started how it's going. And the point of this particular segment is to show some love and highlight some people around women's basketball. Who are really doing some amazing things that may have starting with a small effort but has really turned a huge impact so our next guest is really somebody you need to know. Because what she's been doing for the past few years has really started a movement. I call her the mother of the movement if you have seen. Wnba league passes being gifted around social media our next guest as the person you can thank for giving that off the ground. And so i like to introduce to you. All the founder of one brand agency alexis robinson. Hey alexis how. Am so excited to be here. Thank you so much for joining us. So just kind of tell are a little bit about who you are. Give us more information on one brand in what you're doing in the sports space. Yeah so a little bit about me. Born racing las vegas. I always like to put that out there. There's not that many of some super proud of where i came from Surprisingly where sports were big sports city. A lot of sports do come from here. People just don't know it So i grew up in basketball family. Dad brother uncle cousins all professional. Mba collegiate players. So i kind of thought that was my realm. But i ended up being a tennis player. which i had my uncle was actually an mba player and A tennis player along with my grandma. So i kinda just pick that up and ended up going to school to play tennis and loved it and figured out a this is this is going to be my life like sports in some capacity is going to be my life. Fun fun fact. I majored in sports broadcasting because the tennis tournament that my former doubles partner was playing. In kerry champion was actually still at the tennis network before she blown up on. Espn everything else. It was before novak djokovic was the number one player. And i. I remember sitting there. Watching her interview novak djokovic palm springs. I think i was like eighteen. And i was like. That's what i can do like if if the tennis thing doesn't work out so i majored in sports broadcasting realize i was terrified of public speaking but i love the element of it so once i finished school i was like i should do. I should help. Bridge the gap between athletes in media and brand partners. And things like that so it started with some of the some of the guys i went to school with in oklahoma and some of my family members who are still you know coaching and playing in the league and stuff like that. So that's where. I got my start and it was really just my like ability to connect things and and network and meet people and not be afraid to be like. Hey i have this idea. I think you would go well with it. Lets you know. Make it happen. So it's you know it's been like that for the on my own now for i think five years since Fool fiber six. We're coming up on six. And i have two full time employees now Yeah we have influencers. We have reality. Television music basketball football. Wnba like So we kind of just like to make sure where part of any space where we know. We can accomplish something whether it be on the marketing branding digital influencing pr side so we just went from there. We have a lot of small businesses. We do social floor. I've been able to do social media for a lot of companies that unlike rivals that everyone is familiar with and things like that. We have two big basketball tournaments in vegas recruiting tournaments that i'm the marketing director of You know i'm sure. Everyone saw lebron the layup line or with his son and stuff like that's our tournament so You know it's really cool. And we've now added this this this element of women's basketball and girls basketball into our tournaments. And that's been the funnest part so own. Yeah we kinda just dabble in everything in make things shake. That's a super awesome here. I mean we are in an era right now where uplifting. Black women in entrepreneurship is so important. So for you to be the lead in the founder of this into really good. This going means a lot and especially your interest in your platform in bringing more attention to women's sports right. It's just one of the things that i think. All of us who are former athletes. Just kind of feel like you know. We know what it's like to be a position of you know people to support us. People need to see us. You need to know what we're doing And you've been able to do that through many avenues but the one thing that stood out to me obviously is how over the last couple of years. You've been gifting out of your pocket. Wnba leak passes just to give everyone the bad story. I know that like i'd be getting a lot of love in credit on social media stuff for the league pass but y'all alexis is the mother of the moment she started. It was her tweet that led me to say. I wanted to continue to do this. And have some fun with it and get it biggest. Can please tell us why this was important to you how it started. How did you come up with the idea of wanting to do this. I think it started with my little. My little sister is a college basketball player. And my mom you know my my little sister. And i are ten years apart so and the rest of us are all older so my mom has had the most time to spend into heard her basketball career and their love of fast they go the final four their season ticket holders for the aces all of that stuff so it was her love of basketball and then windy erica in the aces moved here. Dearica hamby and i we. We're just friends. And she was like come out to a game. I went out. And i loved it. Like i was like. Wow you know and my my mom like i said. My mom's district went to every game. And i never really was like Like if i make it. I make it but i went with as the erica's guests. One time in. I had a blast. I was like okay. It's lit so when This was obviously two years ago. Now 'cause cova. So two years ago. I was like whenever there's ace's game and there are people in town. I want people to see like one women's basketball into sports in vegas because they're not until recently besides our hockey team. They were only professional sports. So that was like big for me. So i would always give someone tickets in and be like come with me to a game and if i couldn't make it i'd still be like hey go to a game just started doing that when cove it hit last year and i was at the eric is house and she was like yeah. We're going like we're having a season. I was like this is the pivotal year for people to become a fan of the sport because if it doesn't work in the Who knows what will happen so i. I'm just trying to get as many people to to watch it as possible. So i just went on twitter. I started gifting and weak passing. I you know it wasn't anything big last last season because the level was so short in everything. But you know the ace's ended up going far in. That's honestly what it was like being friends with liz. Working with the erica. I was just like. I want people to see them because i sat there game at not as a person who's in the sport of basketball coup comes from a basketball family. I went to her game as a friend. And i was like this is lit if people just give it a chance they will love it so it started last season. And then i was like you know what. Let's keep it going. So every time i've you know an invoice gets paid or you know a bonus comes in or something. I dislike hop on twitter. I'm like who wants who wants. And i try not to try not to check to see how many it you know the map of math in i'll be like oh no but It's just awesome. Because i love that people are people are one giving the sport a chance and to like developing like fan favorites. And things like that. Like if you if you get e- pass you have the opportunity to see every team and then you can decide who you wanna be a fan of so that makes total sense that first of all i feel. I want everyone to know that. We're to interview at ten fifty a m eastern time. So i made alexis get up at seven thirty in the morning. That's love right there but But what you doing and what you started is so monumental and helping to grow the game because talk about growing the game all the time and there's so many people talk about it and talk about it but you actually put action behind it and because you were so passionate and so genuine in your gifty it caught on and so young street tweeted pay it forward and someone else retweeted pay for and then Age has got to a point. Where all over twitter. I'm seeing different organizations. That are now giving away. Lee passes or now seeing different Athletes themselves who are hosting contests giveaway league passes and just the way that you know what you've done. What you started has really taken off to really help. Put some push behind this league in its twenty fifth year. That i think is really special. How do you feel knowing that. You've impacted the game in this way. I mean if feels good especially just in the sense where i have my opinions on the league. I have my opinions on how things as someone who's just works in the sports and stuff like that. So i and i have competitive opinions. I try like. I was talking to liz the other day when we were when i was discussing how i've been doing this and i was like i try and push people to the aces because i love y'all in. I want to be like other sports where you have a favorite and it's you know it's not like oh. Let's support this league in total because we need to do it. It's like no pick a team that you love and rock with them. The competitive car is what drives other. Sports is success. Oh let's be fuel that. So i always have my opinions and i feel like sometimes not exactly know fan favorite opinions or whatever so but i but i knew that at the end of the day if i could do something that would help draw attention to something that it's not like i'm full fully into it like i sat added game and was like Every chance i get. I'm sad because missing the home opener tonight. Like it's actually worth it so pushing something in making others fan of something that i truly like deep down and like it's not about. We need to support this. Because of this is in this. It's really just like you'll love it so being able to kind of push that initiative more so than making it like a cause was really important to me so i love that you know you and others have been able to one recognize and to latch on engro it because i think i mean shoot. It's not that expensive so there were actually some people who reached out about the gift it why and then was like you know what would i realized. It was only sixteen ninety nine. It's like i can just give it to somebody else. I didn't need it. And i thought it was much more. And so kind of recognizing that. Choose something that i think. We've brought attention to. Because i don't think people realize like it's only seventeen bucks like you have done far more with seventeen dollars than you know you could It away i've spent seventeen dollars a tgi. Fridays okay. so like you know what i mean so it definitely is something that you know if people understood that it it really isn't that much That may but then again you know you think about. Hey we're pandemic seventeen. Dollars is a lot for people in for those people who really do want to have a bigger option of watching all the gains which is honestly can't afford it or it's just not in our budget right now. What you've been doing. What other people who have caught on have been doing is just simply amazing. So i wanted to take time to say. Thank you for your contribution to limits basketball. It is awesome. I love seeing a started out of passion. How it's going hundreds of people winning now and it's amazing like i said every time Even i have. I have a vision of now especially my assistance like well. Now that you're doing all this you need like take it a step forward because she knows like like i said like digital marketing and sponsorships and all that stuff is my forte. She's like you know what you should make a full movement And really you know. Get in to the grime of this. Because it's something that you're that you love. It's something that you know. I have fun with. And like i said it's not it's not. It's not a problem for me. I don't feel. I don't ever feel weird about giving away my money when it's something that i know one that i love in two other people will love helping you know. I'm i'm happy to help. I hope it grows. I'm gonna keep it up and probably do you can't stop so probably just doing it forever. Yesterday against the canadians for the first that was my first experience. Candidate doesn't have like not said yes you are. I understand your your plight more than other people believe me i was like i don't have cash app away. We got my. I just appreciate everything that you've been doing and we will definitely continue to follow you and support you here at around arraignment. Thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you and i love your show. Just want to say that and go aces well basketball. Fans that concludes our show for today. When a send a big. Thank you to andrea carter eric ayla and alexis robinson for joining us today. It's been fun. And we're very happy to be back with china. And i are always around so please make sure you give us a follow on social media. You can find a china at china robinson you can find me at. She no sports no underscore anymore. I grew up over the last couple of months. So it's just at. 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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 639: Wrestlemania, Basketball Hall of Fame, and Dabo Swinney

GSMC Sports Podcast

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 639: Wrestlemania, Basketball Hall of Fame, and Dabo Swinney

"This is your ultimate staffer. Everything sports the Golden state media concepts or podcast. Should I say more from the NFL MLB THE NBA MMA? It's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen Down Ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the sports podcast brought to you by the GMC. Podcasting that work in here. I am once again in a small cubicle. This time it's not really cool. It's more of an editing bay that we have here at my work at a news station news station. So the coup six or kind of off. I apologize greatly politics with that but we have a show. I'm job strickland by the way. I'm not sure if I said my name we have actually. We have a pretty good show today. We have some interesting things talk about such as the NBA Basketball Hall of fame announced their duck. Dis. There there are some updates on the moby could do with the upcoming season. Jake degrom speaks out about Cam Newton. John discussed why Why Jake delomez relevant at all in the Camden News Story And then we'll talk about some recent comments that Clemson head coach Dabo Sweeney made about About playing football in the fall which apparently a lot of people took a very bad way. I whether we'll discuss that and of course continue with our countdown of the athletics. Top One hundred movies. Now be in the last topic there. So let's get into it. What are we talking about in the first topic? Well As you know. The Corona virus has a high sort every topic. Sorry I mentioned on Thursday show but as the corona virus has takeout sports. One Who one thing has kept going in. That is professional wrestling now. Whether or not you believe that is a sport or not. That is not what works. Cussing right now But sports entertainment as the WWE would like to call it. Wrestling has still continued. They've been wrestling at their performance center in Tampa in Tampa Florida which the performance center is just kind of where they train their new wrestlers and where they host in where they used to have an X. T. or they still have exte- Which is their developmental program. So basically it's the Meyer Lakes for. Wwe Now so they have been doing Monday night raw. They'd be doing Friday night smackdown. They've been doing all their shows. So far at the performance centre with no fans and things have gotten weird. They've done they've been. They've been experimenting with a lot of different things if experimenting with different camera angles and different Well they they're able to edit shows now so they're the story lines can now storylines that take place in the rain or around the ring. Now include editing sopher instance. There was there was a moment. Where two wrestlers were fighting on a scaffold or something or forklift or whatever One of them got knocked down. And you see a very prominent cameras cut back to the guy who knocked the other guy down into the guy who got knocked down to come back to him. And he's laying flowers back and you're looking at it and you're just like. Oh that would've killed someone if he fell from that height so the magic of video. Editing is kind of helping it out. It's very mine jarring. It's very jarring to watch it. Especially I group Wrestling Fan. I grew up is wwe fans on kind of used to weird things. 'cause the WWE is in no way shape or form normal. Just no way normal. But it's very interesting to see how they're being kind of creative about everything so I bring that up because this weekend is Russell Mania Wrestlemainia as you probably know is one of the largest events not just in wrestling but in sports in general if you don't wrestlemanias the largest event it's close. I wouldn't say it's up there with the Super Bowl and of course the super bowl's on his Stratosphere but it is the largest event in wrestling and it is one of the larger events and sports just in general I I I would argue. Bigger it gets more viewers than a world series gets probably get more viewers than the Stanley Cup playoff finals. So it is a legitimate large. Thou originally they were going to have it in Tampa Bay in the Tampa Bay buccaneers stadium with the pirate ship and they have a pirate themed going on with their logo up the logo for this year so they have all that going on but because of the corona virus. We can't have that. That's not a thing that's going to happen So they moved into the performance center as I mentioned before they moved everything into the performance center. They moved there and now they're just kind of their the the cut the cut wrestlemainia into two separate nights. It's too big for two nights according to the WWE which of course they're gonNA try to market it and make it sound better than what we already know what happened is you can't have a huge stadium in most. Your wrestlers are afraid of travelling and stuff like that so you kind of have to cut it into two nights night. One happened last night. Saturday night I watched night one and I don't regularly watch wwe. Now I did as a kid I did in high school guide there. There's a there's a point in highschool where fully back involved in like I was sold on it again but now I've fallen out of it reasons that I might discuss Monday. Because I'll do like I might do a full wrestlemainia recap on Monday. Night to tonight but So I kind of fell out of it again so I don't really watch it except Wrestlemainia and that's why wrestlemanias one of those big events is just even if if you've ever watched wrestling before you kinda are interested in Wrestlemainia no matter how long it's been since you've actually watched a wrestling event or WWe event. So it is very bizarre because wrestlemainia is is really cool. I think last year the when they when they play when they rustle in these large football stadiums is usually hundred thousand people from all over the world. Which is another reason why you couldn't have it like that. A lot of people were saying that this would be cancelled because it's literally their biggest event. Why not just postpone it and and just have a different time or replace it with some or slammed just have wrestlemainia summer saying like put together if we are able to have mass gatherings by then but they decided to go with it anyways and it was weird. I mean you got these guys wrestling in nobody which I mean. Most of them started their careers doing that. So they're probably I mean they're probably like a stall jake about it. I don't know but most of the All the matches are in front of nobody. And then you had the weird undertaker versus AJ styles match. I guess is I'm using quotations hard quotations. I'm not really sure if you count it as a match per se but it was called a bone yard match or something like that and it started out with this cinematic opening with a hurst driving into a cemetery. These druids come out. They they take a casket out. Eighty styles comes out of the casket ends laughing then all of a sudden. You have undertaker if you've ever if you watch. Wwe and early two thousands of American bad ass undertaker. Who wrote on the motorcycle time? Well that's the undertaker came and they did this whole cinematic match which has done been done before it's been done in. Ta And then with Matt Hardy and stuff like that. They've done that before I just never thought W we would go this all out and it was entertaining. I wouldn't say it's good. It would have been better than regular undertaker match especially now that I mean he Jiji's retire but it's at least better than regular undertaker match. Would've been but it was but czar to just watch that happened. If you don't know what I'm talking about you could probably look it up. You could probably at least see clips of it. It was completely cinematic movie like it was like twenty five minutes long movie like different stuff going on effects going on which is another and the undertaker is known for his magic his mystique and this format really homes to that because in this format you can have the undertaker You can have the undertaker in one spot. And then he could tell to another spot because you can just edit it that way you knew. Camera cuts is like that so it really added to the undertaker's Mystique it. I think it really worked out in undertaker's favor more because it wasn't a real wrestling match so we didn't have to watch. It was more of a brawl than things we have to watch. Undertaker tried to do a wrestling match at sixty years old or whatever. How however oldies but it was so overall the event night to is tonight like I said they have like seven more matches or whatever which I don't know how they're going to fit all that in one night but you know to each his own but they of night to tonight I will be watching it. It will still be bizarre to me. It is strange to watch wrestling without a crab because wrestling needs a crowd. But enough of that when we come back we'll talk about the basketball hall of fame inductees. Some obvious ones and others that nobody's really talking. Abou shed some light on that when we come back. Are you looking for the very best? Nfl and college football podcast then check out the GMC football podcast get the latest football move both on and off the field from the NFL draft to treats to the rumor mill to the NFL. Combines they got you covered that's GSM? See podcasts dot com slash football dash? Podcasts get updates. I'm college. Rivalries kindy insights and much much more. It's football talk the way you want it. This show sleeps and breathes football. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Tsmc PODCASTS DOT COM for more INFO. So why did he got leaked? Saturday got announced. We now have our induct. These twenty twenty or we have we. Now have our vigilant in the twenty twenty all fame and some of them very obvious through their first year balance And then the rest probably not as obvious but we will talk about them as well. So course The way that the New York Times puts it is four players would find basketball. The century make up one of the most anticipated player classes. Ever so of course you have. Tim Duncan who's currently the coach for the Santos? I played for the Spurs for his entire career. He's one two or three out. I actually don't know how many Taiwan two or three titles with Spurs at least And then you have Kevin Garnett who played for the timber wolves than play. The Celtics won that championship with the Celtics. He was a big reason that that was the original big three as people put it when he went to the Celtics Paul Pierce and And then of course you have the late great. Kobe Bryant the tragedy. I mean some people Seamlessly getting inducted. Of course the tragedy shook the entire sports world And it's kind of crazy to say now that's not even I mean it's crazy to say this but honestly is not the biggest sports story of the year and we're in April The biggest four story of course sports not being thing but That's literally just because in encapsulates every single sport. I mean not not to not to Belittle the death of Kobe Bryant. But I'm just saying I. It's just crazy how this year's been going so far but so of course Ryan died helicopter crash. He was chosen for the induction with Tim. Duncan and Kevin Garnett All three of these stars played in the same era shape. One another's legacies and were among the signature faces of the League as it transitioned out of the Michael Jordan era because it was the early two thousands late nineties. Early two thousands They will be joined as well with a couple of other people To Make It catching Patrick Baumann Kim monkey or Stevens Eddie Sutton and Rudy Tom Doubt God Tom which So there will be joined by to make a catching name rookie of the year in two thousand two with the Indiana fever and never looked back becoming one of the best players in WNBA history over fifteen seasons She transformed the WNBA as well. She was a integral part of the WNBA. Getting a little. Bit more popular Kobe Bryant of course biggest international basketball star in the world because he was business savvy winter mimic Jordan game more than anybody else did and he was pretty much towards heir-apparent for much of his career. Gordon it. Paved the way for. Bryant's entry into the League ninety six the year before Brian's rookie season Garnett became the first. Nba Player drafted out of high school in two decades and then of course Kobe. Bryant drafted right out of high school. Right after that Garnett WHO's Lanky Roaches? Nineteen year old made immediate impact. It would go on become one of the most gifted big men in NBA history. Then Tim Duncan of course never flashy as Kobe or guard net. He embodied the spurs organizational ethos of stability with a stoic demeanor and consistency year. Any route so basically The best way I can describe it to. Anybody doesn't really pay attention to basketball. Tim Duncan is basically Tom Brady. He embodies the organization the organization's values and and everything they stand for over there in San Antonio So during an era where big men who lived in the paint still reigns Supreme Dunkin and Gar network relentless compared to each other in particular because they were both exceptional defensive players competing in the Western Conference Duncan to MVP's Garnett and Brian One. Each one one then at the same time in women's basketball catching 's was becoming a champion at every level. She wanted to Aa Championship with the Tennessee. Volunteers a wnba championship with a fever in two thousand twelve and most impressively catching also won four Olympic gold medals with the US women's basketball team. She's among career leaders in several categories for the WNBA including points which is third assist. She's eight she's third steals she's number one instills right now. She is known as one of the best defensive players in league. History and as a five-time defensive player of the year. Other people who were inducted of course coaches Eddie Sutton. Who was the head of Oklahoma state's men's team from ninety one? Two thousand six Kim Mulkey which sudden by the way he made. He was coach of the year four times. I believe he's won four National Championships. Well he'd made the final four three times so that that takes that out but he he's won four coach of the year awards. He's he's a big. He's a big time. Coach there Kim Mulkey who led Baylor's women's team to three championships Rudy hard name to say coach. The Houston Rockets two championships in the nineties. Barbara Stevens of Bentley University whose women's team won a division two championship in two thousand fourteen. Patrick bomb a longtime FIBA. Executive also was chosen has contributed to health things. Turn International Committee So I kind of liked the fact that just a general basketball hall of fame. There's not one it's not just the NBA Hall of fame or anything like that. It's pretty cool that you get to see all these different people from different avenues in there all putting the basketball hall of fame so of course. It's a big story because Kobe. Bryant is getting inducted in the hall of fame because tragedy. That happened just over two months ago. Which is still like I said earlier. Still crazy to me because so much has happened since then that it's just insane to me. That so much has happened since Kobe. Bryant's death that I mean. That was something that shook me for a solid week or two and now I'm not even like it's not even on my radar at the moment for for stuff that has happened so far because the past couple of weeks have been a little rough for not only in the country but me personally of course But I mean it's been a rough year so far as you all probably know but he deserves being in the hall of fame. I don't think anyone disputes Kobe. Bryant getting things especially on the first ballot is going to be interesting. Who's going to accept a foreign whether it be his wife? Or maybe someone that was close to Phil. Jackson could be one Jordan. Could accept it for him as well But then you add in to Dunkin and Kevin Garnett both of them. I mean like like I mentioned before they were. They were game. Changers They were they. Were dominant big men when big men were still the main main thing in the NBA. As you've seen in the past couple of years we've had a shift from big men to Sharpshooters long-range guys So Tim Duncan Kevin Garnett. They were kind of actually. You know they're kind of at the end of the big man era. I guess you can say big men are always important but not at the this is the point of the NBA where they are the least important. So those those guys make sense nobody. Nobody can dispute that Some some of the other names down here. You Kinda can't dispute catching 's cheese of course a big time player in the WNBA also for Tennessee. Volunteers when she played there. So she She's deserved she's deserving of it Some of the names like I said Eddie Sudden. He's had some demons past but at the end of the day he's been to three final four and he's He won coach of the year. Four Times something like that So his pass is definitely been brought up in stuff that I've seen so far about him because I didn't really know who he was to be honest. But you do see. Some people complain about that mostly in common sanctions and stuff like that But this is going to be very emotional. Very Emotional Hall of fame ceremony. Probably I mean I would actually hate to be Tim. Duncan or Kevin Garnett because like there's a huge cloud over the day like over one of the most important days of your of your career These something you've been training up and there's going to be huge cloud over it. There's nothing they can do about it but it's going to be a very emotional ceremony in. I'm I mean it's Kinda must watch television especially. We don't have sports by the time we get to it. It's going to be much watch. Must Watch television but there you have. That is the basketball hall of fame. Inductees for twenty twenty when we come back. We'll talk about the season. What they plan on doing for the upcoming season one rule. Are we still going to have a season stuff like that when we return? Check out the show. That's built on the m a from. Ufc Two extreme cage fighting. They got the fights covered. Check out the GSM C. M. Eighty. Podcast get the latest news on past or upcoming fights. Join us as we talked to about some of the biggest names in 'em past president future when it's the fight game. There's just one show checkout. Gsm See podcasts. Dot Com backslash. Mame Dash podcast. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Tsmc PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. So the be has the same issue as everybody else they were supposed to open just over a week ago about ten days ago now they were supposed to have opening day. Someone mentioned Friday was supposed to be the Atlanta Braves home opener. Which made me sad. But they had these same issues as the NBA The NHL. The NFL might have this issue as well. What do we do? What do we do when we have to eventually start back? These seasons because It's we need to make these. Tv money people need sports to kind of get rid of. I feel like I mean I understand getting rich. Ford was the smart move because you can't have these large gatherings of people. You don't want the players endangering themselves and stuff like that and as you. I mean we don't want that of course but I feel like a lot of this would not seem as bad as it is if sports was still around. I think I think the main reason why people woke up to this because the NBA completely shut down their season. Rubio bear a lot of people are making fun of him because of the stuff he did in Him. Getting -ffected and stuff like that A lot of people are very aggressive towards him as well but he is kind of a savior because he kind of brought attention to how serious this is so the NBA shutdown after he tested positive the NBA. Completely shut down. Their season suspended their season and then people started to actually kind of open their eyes and realized this is. This is a serious thing like we need to take seriously and tried to try to curb it flat and the curve. Whatever you WANNA call it but at the end of the day we need to figure out logistics because How're hours how's baseball going to Work House Basketball? GonNa work eventually come back. How's football going to work if we have football We'll discuss that later later on Later on the show when we talk about Davos weaning his comments but so the main the main issue right now MBA GEL. They are currently in their seasons. The Major League baseball they have. They've kind of advantage because they haven't started yet so they can do pretty much whatever they want. Once they do eventually come back they can shorten season. They can Shortage season. They just changed the season schedule but the big logistical thing about changing schedule. Of course is how does that affect next season? Like if you start playing in October would first off your cash playing baseball in October for most of those northern cities like New York and Boston and stuff like that because nobody gets really cold by the time playoffs. Roll around and moving. The regular season like that But anyways premier league in soccer discussing quarantining is teams in one part of England and completing its season with televised games from anti stadiums the NBA reportedly exploring a similar concept which would stages entire postseason in Las Vegas. Inland will be is prioritizing public health as exams all possibilities the season at least initially could be played in Florida or more likely Arizona where spring training parks or more concentrated but the logistics of quarantine thirty teams in one area would be extremely complex and potentially controversial requiring local state federal government cooperation and resources. That might be necessary to fight the corona virus pandemic baseball's a secondary concern at a time with thousands of the US are dying from cove in nineteen. Of course the possibility of the sport returning this summer in stadiums opened fans appears increasingly remote But if the season could be played safely empty parks without disrupting efforts to save lives. The sport could play a restorative role for the country as it did during World War. Two as did after nine eleven and stuff like that so a Britain's website called the independent Touched on the possibility of primarily serving a similar purpose in England saying that entertainment aspect has drawn increased government backing to as they liked the idea of the population in gross in the national sport especially in the event that lockdown measure Titan or extended which makes sense because sports is always a huge distraction. No matter what's going on in your life if I mean I'm assuming if you listen to this you like sports so You Watch sports to get away from it all of course if you have a bad day but your team wins and makes it a little bit better. So people are looking for in a distraction especially now of all times so the athletic reported Thursday that the plan to play the Premier League's remaining ninety two games at a World Cup style base might be unworkable in reality signing compromise the integrity of competition because the team's losing home games and the difficulty of guaranteeing the health workers the latter concern would be the most significant for baseball to play under quarantine the sport when need to protect the health of not only the players in other club personnel but also umpires those producing the television broadcasts plus hotel workers bus drivers anyone else that could possibly be involved with the players in gangs. Your margin of error is so small when baseball officials set as an example. The official cited the possibility of a hotel worker going home catching the virus and bringing it back into the baseball environment. The next day the effect might be similar to what occurs on a cruise ship infections with spread rapidly and the sport again when need to shut down so diverting resources from healthcare would be another concern baseball with needed conduct wide ranging testing for the virus. Isolated anyone who gets sick and provide proper medical attention. Such an effort would require outside assistance. The kind of resources. The League could not justify drawing away from the general population in the middle of a public health crisis. Imagine that if we if we just put all of our efforts into trying to baseball back. That would be absurd So moment on March twelfth when Commissioner Rob Manfred announced started season would be delayed. Baseball said that public health concerns governance decisions. President trump has accepted self distancing guidelines ripple thirtieth centers for Disease Control Prevention the. Cdc has recommended against gatherings a fifty more people through at least may tenth as the death toll from the virus mounts is difficult to manage the CDC approving the opening of major sporting venues to spectators anytime soon so playing an empty parks would be better than not playing from. Tv's for perspective we talked about TV revenue couple weeks ago but still would create a shortfall for baseball's generating a record a record ten point seven billion in revenue last season according to Forbes. These fort were collect revenue from its local and national television partners in advanced media ventures but not from fans who buy tickets pay for parking impetus concessions so the players who already have agreed to pro rated salaries of the twenty twenty season is shorten almost certainly would be asked to accept further reductions pay the owners meanwhile might need to consider sharing local television revenue to balance the disparity between bigger and smaller markets. On a short term basis. Such compromise might be necessary of the alternative baseball with. No fans was no baseball at all. Won League officials said says he is not particularly worried about the economic issues Playing an empty parks would present calling them. Math problems Keeping fans players and others healthy would be far greater challenge. One that at least short-term cannot necessarily be solved for now. Baseball continues do model various options trying to determine how each would work. The landscape might change if better treatments for cove. Nineteen emerge in the coming months but in the nation's current state the quarantine plan might be baseball's best chance for returning as quickly as possible. That plan might not viable at all. So Baseball. Wants to come back. People want sports back. Of course 'cause I'm washing marble raises and I'm watching wrestling again and I watched the voice all last week. I literally watched the entire up to the I watched the entire season up to this point of the voice last week and then I watched a blind in love or whatever. It's called as well so please help me. But of course the the public safety of the workers safety of the players and stuff like that that takes precedence. That takes that will take bigger concern than just playing baseball. So there's a lot of issues I would not want to be the person trying to figure this out. I'm glad I'm just a person that reads about it. And just Kinda like figures out. What kind of ways? We could figure something out. The quarantine plan is a good idea in theory. But you're telling a bunch of baseball players just say in one city or one state for a long period of time and then the testing. You're going to have to test them like every day which we don't have the means to do that at this moment as some people are going without getting tested right now. It's a. It's a concern. We don't we don't know what we don't know what what we could do to curb this baseball. Come back have sports come back in general but we'll just have to wait and see just everybody. I mean. Try to fly in the curve as much as we can and hopefully we can get back to normal and have sports up and running again but it is very interesting to see thought process all these sports leagues. I know a lot of them are probably working. Most of them are probably working together right now. Trying to figure out a good way to figure everything out but it continues to be very interesting watching all on when we come back. We'll talk about JD. Loan he speaks on Camden situation. And I'll explain to you why that matters when we return. Are you looking for help for your fantasy football team check out the GMC fantasy football podcast? Get today's best advice on who to start who to sit even who. You should draft from sleeper picks. A Red Hot LINEUPS. They got it all covered for you. That's GSM see podcasts. Dot Com back slash. Fantasy Dash Football Dash podcasts. We'll cover traditionally dynasty few PR. Even I DP leagues when you need fantasy help. There's just one show to hit up. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Gs MC PODCAST DOT COM for more info so one of the biggest stories of free agency and biggest stories of the past year or so since he last got injured. Is the New Situation Cam? Newton and of course former quarterback of the Carolina Panthers. He was a he's an he's two thousand fifteen. Mvp He was considered one of the best quarterbacks in the league and then he got a shoulder injury that he came back and got a foot injury and then Carolina Panthers decided to cut him instead of trying to trade him or the trade value of him. Completely tank the the the controversy between him and how the panthers treated him was completely completely one of the biggest stories in NFL. Free Agency So besides the dehydrate hopkin strain. Of course I have to mention bill. Brian Idiot every episode. Pretty much now but I found it interesting article on the Charlotte Observer where they interviewed. Jake Delone. Jake degrom another former quarterback for the Carolina Panthers who is a quarterback from two thousand three two thousand ten and they the title of the Article Pretty Much framed. It as Jake degrom went through the same thing cam. Newton went through. So he's the best person to talk about this and see why everything fell out where everything goes south in the Camden situation. So the reason jake to Lome relevant is because it kind of happened to him the same way. Although Jake loan was a lot more understanding from the the team standpoint Gigolo had like he threw like four picks in the playoff game in two thousand nine and then twenty ten season he had like he was doing picks out left and right for half the season on the bench dome and then yet they cut him. So it's completely different situation. Actually but the the Charlotte Observer decided to interview him. He's also the current radio broadcaster for the Charlotte Verdict Carolina Panthers. So I guess he's a good person to ask so first question they asked. Where did it go south for Cam Newton with the panthers and he answered? I think it all started in Pittsburgh and twenty eighteen after we started six to where candies and took a huge hit throwing shoulder in that game with TJ. What you saw everything. Take a turn for the worse after that and obviously the shoulder there you go with the word obviously again That's part of the answer. I took this out there a couple of questions before this. Whatever he he's continues with. I watched camera camps the next year or two days against Buffalo In August two thousand nineteen though and I thought his arm was just fine. The first two games he struggled somewhat belonged that was due to transferring of the weight to his injured left foot while throwing but there is no doubt walking out the stadium this past season after the week two loss against Tampa US new. There's something wrong with camp. He had run the ball only five times in two games. And that's correct. I mean he had that lingering foot issue pretty much a he got it I think in in the I think he got it in one of the preseason games and then he he just continued having and it was just bothering issue. And I did notice that as well He didn't really run the ball a lot. He only ran at five times. Two Games as JAKE'S MOM said which is a huge red alert for Camden. When acute part of his game is being run? And I'm not saying. He's like more mobile quarterback but I mean he gets out of situation sticky situations. He's also built like a linebacker so I mean needs to run someone over on his best plays or him running people over while running the ball. I mean that's just the fact of the matter you can deal with the weaker throwing arm which that's some people's main concern with them they. They're saying he can't throw six yard or something like that. You can deal with the weak throwing arm if you have that run if you are able to run and make plays extend plays and stuff like that. So those are valid concerns of course with the Carolina Panthers so you knew something was wrong because the foot thing of course so next question is you're ending at Carolina wasn't what you wanted. You said at the time the panthers this is in this is to Jake along about him. Lee His ending Carolina. You said at the time the panthers released you in two thousand ten. That he felt blindsided happened much. Same Way with Steve Beuerlein with the panthers in March has won two as well camp players rarely get the ending. They want with that said. What do you foresee next for cans career? Jake Delone mentioned that I've tried to think of. Which team would work for him next? This is my opinion. I don't think he can go where there is in Sabah starter. And he's a backup a just in case player. That's not him. When Cam walks into the locker room you know the personality has the presidency brings. That's a starter. This is a different individual. This is not a toe the line backup. Kinda guy this guy who's got something to him and all those guys on the team will look at him. If you're struggling to say. Put Him in do something. He completely does not answer the question that was asked by the way or the first the first question but Goes into where he thinks Camden could go? And he he brings up He eat mentioned something that I've been saying on the show for the longest time is kind of difficult to find a spot for Cam noon. Especially after the recent Free agent signings. There's Kinda difficult place to put him there. So he mentioned that Cincinnati. They've gotten opening. But Joe Borough Miami. They seem Kinda tied Ryan Fitzpatrick also. They could drive to a tunnel or they could trade up to get you a borough which is a story that might happen. New England sometimes but they brought back Brian. Hoyer they have jeered stint as well to the biggest possibilities of course the Los Angeles chargers. They currently have tyrod Taylor as their quarterback which in my opinion I think Cam Newton Party and upgrade over that. I don't think that's a very controversial opinion there but Camden for the chargers would be cool. He mentioned Jacksonville. Jacksonville they have They have garments you which I think. Trading Nick foles kind of puts confident in Minzu but if you're Jacksonville and chanting Camden Camden can be better than Gardner. Menchu which no guardmen show love him but he is not better than Camden so this I just thought it was. I thought it was article is interesting. Because like I mentioned before Jake degrom. He was kind of blind sighted and the panthers have a history kind of blindsiding players especially popular players. They they they have a very huge history of line sign players. I mentioned before that the best quarterback for the Carolina Panthers in history the Carolina Panthers. It's between Jake Delong or Cam Newton. There's no denying that both of them lead them to a super bowl. Jake degrom one. Five playoff games came in one. Three stuff like that So this is the big. So your two biggest quarterbacks you kinda just cast it away and like I mentioned the Jake degrom. Getting rid of him was a little bit more digestible than getting rid of Camden Just came new news injury issues but he kind of understood why you have to get rid of. Amino missed a cure and a half pretty much a season a half pretty much. So it's kind of understandable to get rid of the quarterback at that point 'cause I mean he's kind of breaking down Jake degrom he had interception issues washed up by the Time Carolina Panthers got rid of them but they they have a history of just kind of not having the best way to get of guys. You've seen it with Jews peppers too as well. Steve Smith and something about the Carolina. Panthers is just not very good at getting rid of people or lightly gently laying it down. Hey we don't need you anymore. Can you please leave but Camden Still WanNA biggest door is free agency as we continue on here as he saw a sign with anybody? He's posting videos of him working out saying that he they think. I'm washed up but I'm but you'll show while you can't really show anybody if you're not on a team there bucko sorry. I think the raiders could still be an option. 'cause I mean you have car there but you've had friction between Derek Carr and and Jon Gruden there and has been rumored that they're gonNA get rid of de Derek Carr the long time but they also got just got Marcus Mariota so that might might Dispel that and then of course James wisden still on the market Yeah I mean most teams that usually have quarterback issues like the bills. They have Josh Allen Josh Allens. Pretty good Broncos they drew locked. They seem pretty pretty locked on on. Drew drew lock no pun intended. the jets. They have Sam Darnold. They seemed to be continuing. Sam darnold the giants. I mean they seem okay with their current quarterback It's really going to be interesting. Where came goes you've probably GONNA have to take a backup role as Brown enjoy that? But that's the only way I could see him getting on. Nfl roster coming up in the season unless the chargers finally make a move or the Jaguars make a surprising move when we return. We'll talk about Dabo Sweeney. 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Here's another terrible segue unbound quote a virus canceling all sports that you probably sick and tired of hearing me say because I say it every segment and seems like but football is the main concern of a lot of people especially below the Mason Dixon line in these southern states the SCC country as you may like there's a huge concern about whether or not football player not now one of the biggest coaches in the nation. These he's one of the only coaches with multiple national championships under his belt. I think the other one is nick. Sabin actually that our current coaches as you that so- Dabble Sweeney. He got interviewed. He had like a sixty five minute video conference with press. The was supposed to be constant spring game so it makes sense that he decided to give a quick update on everything. That's going on related to Clemson football related to him And he was of course asked about the NCWA extending its dead period in recruiting through thirty first and and whether or not the NCAA is. Football would happen because cove in nineteen so. Here's some of the answers that he gave. He said my preference is to. Let's get to work it. Let's go play. That's the best case scenario thing. That's what's going to happen. He said this is America man. We've store in the beaches of Normandy. Loose sent a car and drove around on Mars. We've walked on the moon. This is the greatest country in the great people. In the history of the planet we create an iphone can send a message. I can sit here and talk to all you people in these different places. We got the smartest people in the world. Listen WE'RE GOING TO RISE UP and kick this thing right in the teeth and we'll get back to our lives. That's the only mindset. We've got all the rest of that stuff I'll let all the smart people figure out all the doomsday scenarios. I'VE GOT ONE SCENARIO. And that is running down the hill and kicking off in Death Valley. So this made a lot of people angry and I always made a lot of people angry So I'm not sure if it's just because my twitter feed because I follow mostly people in. They're probably they're probably just retweeting all the bad stuff and I'm just getting filtered in the bathroom. Because they're they're getting they're talking about but I've seen. This is a national thing. I've seen on read it I've seen on twitter. People are just bashing Dabo Sweeney for being optimistic and basically the only way I can. I can boil down to is that people. Just don't like him for whatever reason I mean. That's fine I guess. But he's literally always said he even said in his comment that all the rest of that stuff I'll let all the smart people figure out all the doomsday scenarios. He said that it's not like he's saying. Oh we're GONNA have football that I have officially decreed that I've seen some people say that it's like Oh Dabo said it. So now we're going to have a football season now. He's just being positive. He's saying that we're going to get through this and we're GonNa have a football season. That's always said but I see all this Hoopla on twitter I see all this Hoopla and read it Someone made made like that Davos Sweetie. He took a plane a private jet to Florida. The Florida like a month ago for Spring Break. I would like to reiterate a month ago. I I know people are. I've seen people up in arms about that. It's like data's being reckless Davos Davos Being a terrible example to people To to people to fan base that Yada Yada Yada you. Why should we care about low? Daboh if he's fine private beaches and stuff and get it. Not Practicing social distancing. Well I just remind you. It's a month ago so spring break. Clemson was a month ago. It was early March as you recall. All the stuff wasn't like this in early March. It was kind of the beginning of it. But you can't really because for instance if if you had the NBA canceled on March ninth. Which I know it's not it was it was like March twelfth or something like that but if you had to be canceled Thursday but you have a trip to a beach that weekend. Are you going to cancel that plan? Are you gonNA cancel your vacation with your state? Non Of this took off. I'm just saying I mean people are just bashing DAB over being positive. They're bashing him for going on vacation before this all kind of blew up and sports got cancelled. I mean in my opinion in in my humble opinion. Of course it's my opinion. You can disagree with it and you might think homer for you know backing up my coach or whatever because I am a Clinton Grad Concentration. I I used to work for. The football programs have had interactions with Daboh. So you might see homer but this is my personal opinion. I would say this no matter who it was. I don't care about orange around the freaking Haiti during this if it happened anything past five days after the NBA shutdown. I give leeway. Yes this whole thing. Yes the coronavirus is an issue. Yes all that. It's been an issue for months. Now has been an issue since it first started up in China and China had their huge outbreak. Of course. But you can't really blame people for not taking it seriously until the NBA shutdown in sport shutdown. I mentioned earlier. That Rio was a Kinda saved everybody because they he lightened everybody into how serious this issue is. I'm sticking with that but you can't blame people for not taking it seriously until sports got shut down because at the it was kind of like always just that is just that disease that came from China and You know some people in America have it but it is. It's fine whatever I mean I agree that Donald Trump saying it's a hoax was a terrible move. We're not gonNA make this political though but you can't really blame people for that but I all I see is people I mean. He's just trying to be optimistic. And I see people bashing Cam and the only thing really think of is that they're just bashing him because they don't like him for whatever reason a lot of people don't like the all shocks me persona that he that he has accumulated himself which he's from Alabama. I mean like that's not. That's not like a rich place. He's from Alabama. He moved to Clemson. Clones is not a very rich place that is now because of the football program that he built but when he first got here in two thousand three football so I was not a not a big time place you know so i. It's just mind boggling to me that all these people are so against it. I mean he's nothing. He said. Raise any red flags for me. Nothing he said. Raise any red flags. I'm just saying. Now he did take a jab in Alabama because Alabama is now doing doing work workouts. All the players working from home they gave gave him all apple watches. Which is which people thinking incident violation. Which of course Alabama of all schools will will check in with the Zeolite? Make sure it's okay. Did add a million. These unforeseen times. It's probably perfectly fine to do that. So gave them all. Apple watches to keep track of their workouts. Daboh said our guys that put in work. I don't need nap. Watch track them. They're put in work now. That is one thing I can see. People NOT LIKING ABOUT DAVOS DAB petty. I will say that data was one petty person I can. I can tell you that does based off Just Take Dade Dorian of NC state. Dave Dorian said some mean things about data ballet three years ago now mercy's mercilessly beating. Nc STATE ANY CHANCE THEY GET ANYTIME. Close up places these days. It is a merciless beating. And and Dabuma does things that kind of throw it in. You can tell that he does not like we'll must champ any destroy South Carolina anytime they play and stuff like that. I mean. He's a petty guy. I tell you that right now. He's a petty guy. I mean so. He's going to call out other schools and do stuff like that so I can understand if you don't like him because of that stuff but at the end of the day these comments. There's nothing to take our these comments that is inherently back. Nothing about these comments are back. The only thing he said was. I'M GONNA leave it to the doctors believe it to the experts and I'm going to focus on playing football win football season rolls around whether or not we do it or not so I mean that's not bad. That's not a bad thing to say so I don't know I'm a home or whatever it doesn't matter but I mean this is not a this is not based off homer homer thing It's just I'm just confused. Why people are so down on someone. Trying to bring positivity and optimism into this I mean. I'm an optimistic person. I I've had friends that literally. Just bring it up every day and I'm kind of like look man. I have talked about this like I work at a new station. I have to look at it. I do pot a sport podcast. I have to talk about at every show because it's all news is there's nothing else talk about. I'm tired of talking about it. You gave her something like that but anyways When we return we'll continue with our list of continue moving down the list of the athletics. Top One hundred sports movies when we were turned out. This show built around the women amendment of the UFC INVICTA F C Bell Tour Championship. We got the fights cover. It's the golden state media concepts women and they may podcast the latest news coming flights discussions of previous matches joining us as we talk to in about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future when it's the women's fight game you know to listen to the Golden State media concept's women's MMA podcast. Folks we are. We're doing seventy seven seven nine seven year on the athletic top one hundred sports movies and I just want you to know Sort of this. What Georgia's Monday I think last last Tuesday I mean I am not watched any of the movies I said GonNa Watch time like I said. Times have been hard. I'm working extra hours Because you know just gotTa Make Money Man. GotTa live so. I'm working extra hours of the news stations. I don't have a lot of time to watch movies except for on the weekends so I mean maybe I'll watch something later But rewatch cool runnings now so. I mean maybe that's not completely true for me not having time but I always watch reruns cool runnings. But let's continue going at seventy nine which is race which is twenty sixteen average rating seventy five races. Of course it is a biopic about Jesse Owens meticulous most notably the high drama at the nineteen thirty six Berlin Olympics. Jason Plays Larry Snyder Owens. College coach one caveat though kept envisioning today in his role as Joe Biden on sorry alive when rewatching scenes from this movie. So it's about Jesse Owens. I haven't seen this movie. I've heard it's really really well. Made is very meticulous as got a lot of attention to detail about Jesse Owens life and everything that happened Olympics at the nineteen thirty six Berlin Olympics and it does seem like something I needed. Watch I feel like most because Jesse Owens was once may the man in track and field and I just need to. I need to learn more about him. Because I I really don't know much about Jesse Owens so alert more about him. Figure something out about that. But that's seventy nine move on seventy eight which is pumping iron. Nine hundred seventy seven Would averaging seventy five point twelve? The world of competitive bodybuilding was all but in the dark until nine hundred seventy seven documentary pumping iron. Shed light on the strangely fascinating sport. The fly on the wall style truly gives us a feeling of seeing something rarely seen by the public. Centering on the one thousand nine seventy five bb Mister Universe and nineteen seventy five Mr Olympia competition and the competitive rivalry between order Schwarzenegger and Lou rig no the personalities of these larger than life athletes really shine through. In fact it made both men household paints was sworn Egger Essentially becoming the biggest action movie star of all time and then eventually the governor of California. Vong it's really so I've seen clips of this actually because you know arnold but I have no desire watching it. 'cause bodybuilding kind of freaks. Me Out freaks me out what they do to their bodies and like how they dehydrate themselves and all that just the just the everything they do just freaks me out just just the methods. That training stuff like that It just kind of freaks me out and I don't really WanNa watch a documentary about it but I can't. I can't say with a with full heart that I'm going to watch this at all. I mean it's an interesting premise. I guess but yeah. I don't think I'm GonNa Watch. I'm just not that interesting. Bodybuilding Seventy Seven McFarland USA twenty fifteen average rating. Seventy five point twenty three. This is Disney film but Director Nikki. Carro rarely let's this based on a true story movie dip too far into sports movie hall of Famer Kevin Costner Builds. A high school cross country team made a poor kids of migrant farm working families but because of the work. The runners put in a at school in the fields. The team's success at the end feels earned of something preordained by Hollywood to seen. Stand out. Where one where? Kostner works the field to get an idea of why some kids missed practice and he barely makes it through the day without collapsing and the other being the team's trip to the ocean for the first time which is Emotional inspiring but I have not seen. I actually didn't know this movie existed. Kevin Costner was in track and field cross country movie. Kevin I thought about it every Kevin Costner movie but now I have to add one every Kevin Costner. Sports movie but now the ad once my list where he is a track coach Cross country coach. Sorry but haven't seen that one. It's interesting interesting concepts Kevin Costner and sports movie. Which as you know that automatically means it's good or at least decent so reforming. Usa held. Check that out. Probably maybe who knows Rudy? Seventy six nineteen ninety-three average rating seventy five point. Eight three we all know rudy is Some people think Rudy's too corny. I think it's near perfection. The story of a scrawny walk on who finally gets shot would not have resonated like he did it. Involved any other school than Notre Dame spilled on heroes in Thalji. The final actors as powerful emotional sport drama gets one of the reasons. Notre Dame is still one of the biggest colleges college programs in in the world. I mean you had the four horsemen early on then. Of course you had knute rockne and all that stuff but rudy kind of cemented at Notre Dame. I mean when you watch baseball movie. Most of the time it's either GONNA be the Red Sox dodgers looming Yankees when you watch a college football movie. Notre Dame's GonNa be in some way or some form and Rudy is one of the reasons. I'll I know a lot of people. Who like new Notre Dame or their parents like Notre Dame because Rudy? I'm not joking because of Rudy. So this movie is influential on the College football landscape. Because you know. A lot of people Like Notre Dame because of Rudy and I just want to mention he was all sides. Okay Okay Number. Seventy five endless summer. Nineteen Sixty six movie Averaging seventy five point nine one more of a travelogue buddy flick the national sports films but the endless summer beautifully explained surf culture to a generation of people who were only familiar with through Frankie and Annette movies or the dulcet sounds of Jan and dean and the Beach Boys. So this is a surfing movie. from nine hundred sixty six makes it a little difficult for me to have been able to watch it. I don't know what it is So it might be might be too too early for me I liked the poster of it or the book cover or no. Yes the poster poster of it's pretty I would actually like that poster room but I don't know what it is number seventy four backup two thousand two avid rating. Seventy six point. Three six came in the perfect time. Post nine hundred ninety nine World Cup to throw fuel on the fires of total soccer obsession at ingests journey to find her own identity. In the extreme sub textual queasiness between her and Jules newgate perfect formative movie for generation. So I am not seen this one either. I feel like I've only seen like five of them so far but it is a soccer movie. I've heard it's pretty good I mean is a soccer movie next? We have seventy three TALLADEGA nights. The ballot of Ricky Bobby. Two thousand six average rating of seventy six point four one mock NASCAR culture at its peak but it did so such affection that is loved by racing fans in haters like will ferrell an advocate. Make better movies. Sure but it's a shame that this doesn't top our list because if you ate I well. You're probably last. So Ricky Bobby is one of my favorite movies of all time is what is just fantastic comedy. Just general It's it's just funny I mean I I'm not I haven't seen in a couple years on pressure. All the jokes still hold up. It's just an incredibly movie. Just back to back to back to back. You're just getting hit with jokes. All over the place so Talladega Nights. I have watched that highly recommended. If you haven't watched it. Yes it deals with NASCAR and stuff like that and racing. But that's not the main I mean is the main focus they don't they don't go like in. Depth is incredible movie. Incredible sports story in my opinion Sunny to invictus two thousand nine avid reading seventy seven point two four. It's a rebuttal to the stick to sports goons invictus shows how sports in politics are often intertwined and that grace and forgiveness are way better than pay-back typical under guard. Underdog wins the title story but the squad. South Africa's rugby team pulls a nation together along the way and Morgan Freeman is Nelson Mandela. So I've seen his movies very fantastic movie and seen in a while. I haven't seen it since like high school. Probably so very good movie though it does touch on the issues are going on in South Africa at the time so it's very good. Movie does have rugby. And so if you don't like Gregory sorry. Dumber seventy one dot ball the underdog story two thousand four rating seventy seven point. Three one another one of my favorites. Apparently my favorites are all in the seventies. Actually saw dodgeball in the theater. Twice was that funny Vince. Vaughn and Ben Stiller headliners most memorable performance came from a couple of small jokes small roles Jason Bateman as a dodgeball color analyst and Lance Armstrong as himself pre doping scandal. There's not much more I can add to this. I mean dot will just fantastic story. I mean is fantastic. Movie The true underdog story as in the title. It's got a pirate. I recommend it number seventy seabiscuit. Two thousand three average rating seventy seven point three five against seabiscuit. A higher score of eighty nine in part because it scored a best picture nomination but also in part because the tremendous performances from Jeff Bridges and Chris Cooper while I didn't think the film was as good as the book by Laura Hillenbrand. It's still captured by imagination and transported me to a time when horse racing was one of the biggest sports in the United States for Cooper from the athletic. I've never watched seabiscuit. Never been interested in sea biscuit so sorry But anyways that is the show will cover sixty nine hundred sixty when we come back on. Tuesday that is the show ladies and gentlemen if you like podcast and subscribe to us where we podcast and you can follow me on twitter. Astra Glamour's thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen for listening to this show and I'll see y'all on Tuesday you been listening to the Golden State media concepts sports podcast part of the Golden State media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like him at www dot. 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Honoring A Legend Part 1: C.V.S. 1K

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Honoring A Legend Part 1: C.V.S. 1K

"Great news. There's a quick way. You can save money. Switch to Geico. Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price. And it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Go to Geico dot com today and see how much you could save these around the ram with let China Robinson basketball fans. It is your favorite time of the week. It's a new episode of your ESPN w women's basketball podcast around the rim. I am your host let China Robinson joined by my fabulous fantastic. Producer to Rica foster Bradsby and to Rica are so excited number one. Let me just say this every bit of magic that you will feel on this podcast. I had absolutely nothing to do with to Rica. On me and our hosts who will talk a little bit about a minute fleecy hall Allen. I can't even just say enough about the job. They did in putting together the special episode. It's special because we are celebrating one thousand career coaching victories for c Vivian stringer. That's right coach stringer joined the one K club on Tuesday night. And this is actually a two part podcast. So right now, you're listening to part one which features players of coach stringer. We've got Matija von played at Rutgers and a final four essence Carson who played at Rutgers in the final four Cappon dex to Tom WNBA champion keirin pie. Drawn who actually was a starting point guard for coach stringer at Cheney state and Katie Abramson Henderson who's the current head coach at UCF but also played for coach stringer at Iowa. So this is part one. But we have two parts the other part of our. Podcast is going to feature. John chainey who is one of the mentors for coach Vivian stringer when she was at Cheney state. He was the head coach there for a long time. Joe let law says the coach at Rutgers when they went to the final four is now at South Carolina, but also played for coach stringer in Iowa Marianne Stanley who has been a guest on our show who was an assistant at Rutgers as well when they went to the final four, and then Dr Christine grant, who is a legend. Especially round advocacy for title nine who was a longtime administrator at Iowa in hired coach Vivian stringer. Lots of stories to tell lots of things to share in particular. You know, I I often reflect on coach Stringer's time at Iowa. Because I remember story. Someone told me about how they were recruited by Iowa. And you got to think of this African American woman head coach, which there weren't a lot around at the time. She started in nineteen seventy two at Cheney state. There was a little slippery rock before then. But you know, there weren't any a lot of African Americans at all in Iowa. And here it was coach stringer Araj the head coach. Dr grant bull flecked a little bit on that decision. But and then had to recruit other African American women to come and play in Iowa. I mean magic going on your visit and just from a cultural standpoint what that was like and then coach stringer also talks about how when she got to Iowa. There were probably a hundred fans in the stains. And I believe she quoted twenty two thousand at one point at a game in Iowa. So she's well known for what she did there. But anyway, we're going to be celebrating coach stringer on this podcast. She's the head coach at Rutgers currently, but as I mentioned previous stops at Cheney state in Iowa, she became the fifth division one head coach and women's bass college basketball history to reach one K winds joining Pat summitt tar Vander veer, Gino Oriana, Sylvia Hatchimal. If you have not heard those episodes where we gave some love to those coaches for their one K, please do so we also interviewed division to Barbara Stevens who hit one K last season as head coach Ed Bill university. So you can pull up one K if you're feeling fruity if you were watching the game the one K game on the big ten network last night. What a time it was. I mean, the victory again came against central Connecticut at. The rack, but it was just a job. Well done by everyone on the broadcast. Production crew administrators at Rutgers. The crowd was full of so many people that love co stringer her family dawn Staley was there. Don, obviously, one of only two African American women to win a. National championship at the division one level college women's basketball. Joining Carolyn peck, Teresa Edwards was in the crowd. Carol stiff of ESPN, Daniel Donahue, so many faces and so many people in lives that coach stringer touched. They had paintings and giveaways and videos of Kobe Bryant giving love to coach stringer Whoopi Goldberg, the NBA TNT crew, those guys gave coast trigger some love. So it was just a well done shot out to the administrators at Rutgers everyone who had something to do with putting that celebration together very well done. But I think the thing that sticks with me personally, let me just say this. She did get a tweet from Hillary Clinton as well. I don't know if you saw Rica that. That. Tweet Hillary Clinton. But the one thing that stands out to me personally is just that coach stringer started coaching forty six years ago in what she's done for African American women, and she was very good friends with Pat summitt, and at someone who she speaks very highly of in terms of her as a mentor as a friend just how close they were. But you know, you think about what these women sacrificed, and how they were the first and how they push and how they pioneered for us to have everything we have for the sport of basketball right now. But for me, just Vivian coach, Vivian Stringer's life was not easy. Just the amount of adversity that she had to face almost seems unfair. You probably know about the death of her husband, Mr. Bill stringer who was near and dear to her who was a driving force in her life. You know, her daughter fell ill, and, you know, just tremendous hurdles to overcome with her care in those kind of things it just the number of things she's had to. To persevere through our tremendous. And you'll just hear the impact on this podcast that that strength hat on. So many people across the board. She's just inspired me so much. I get emotional just thinking about it. I don't know what you would say she meant to you. But to me, she is one of the most impactful figures of our time. I think that to me she embodies what it means to be a strong African American woman in times where that strength isn't always recognized by everyone what sticks out most to me is remembering what happened in the two thousand eight thousand sorry, the two thousand seven two thousand eight these in win her teen was publicly ridiculed by a radio host in the way that she was able to stand up and stand for her team. And basically say, you know, to the world where I should be celebrating something that I've been working almost thirty years to have. I'm here having to defend the honor of my team, and I'm willing to do that because we're worth it. And you know, just being able to to see her go to bat for her not only her team, but for all of us for every young black girl who's ever been in a situation where? You know, they were stereotyped or looked at less than what they were. I think she embodied what that what it means to be able to to stare to stare not necessarily danger. But just to be able to look amongst the crowd and say this is who we are. This is what we're about. And this is what we're gonna do. And whether you like it or not we're here, and I love that. Absolutely loved it. I mean, it it's it's. When you have you responsible for a nation of women, right because she is impacted not just her players, but people it's just widespread. I could just think about Oprah. You know, she was on Oprah Oprah say about her Oprah with an offer like her impact has been tremendous. But then the personal tragedy, the the rejection, you know, she talks about not making the cheerleading team or first time trying out, you know, I it just so many things that happened in in even especially during those times in the sixties and seventies civil rights and title nine coaching before title nine even a came into play. So we, you know to reconized aren't going to spoil the greats of this podcast. But we just wanted to thankfully, hall, Allen, first and foremost food is one of the great orders in my opinion of our game. I mean, if you've never heard her speak. She just she's magic that's really the way. I describe her that she's technic-. The presidency. Oh, fleecy hall. Allen associates. He played for coach stringer from eighty seven to ninety one. But polices impact on the game is widespread from her work with coaches from a step up, which is a assisted in head coach training program that she has every may where she just pours into the future of our game. She worked once worked at Nike this growing that aspect of the game for women's basketball. She is a lawyer would I always wanted to be a lawyer both least is much smaller than smarter than I am. But she's a coach is agent. She just touches our game, so many ways, but I just want to reconized are going to do more of is let more people have a voice on this podcast. Like, I love being the host. And I wanna talk to connect with our fans. It's Rica does as well. But it was just fitting for police having played for coach stringer having known her. So well for her to be the voice of this podcast and the hosted and we're going to do more of that we actually are looking at having some WNBA players come in wholesome around. The rim during college season and possibly direct and help with content. So we want more people to be involved with with what this podcast looks like. And how shaped so I'll shut up now because the was going to say I'm talking too much for an intro. We hope you please check out part one and two. But now, let's please celebrate coach c Vivian stringer. Hi, my name is Felicia ho Ellen only my closest friends. Call me and sodas coach. Co stringer when I was just. A young woman with a dream. And when I'm at co-starring, and she talked to me about her dream. Of winning national championships. And she said to me, she said is if you buy into monitoring. Nothing will prevent me from going into yours, and I will do everything humanly possible to help. Make your dream. Come true. When she said in my home, or hold is it I said I wanted to be attorney and co-starring or made sure that that happened. I had to do the work, but she made a phone call to the law school and said, look, I have a student athlete who has well over three point O GPA. She's been active and student life on campus and on the homecoming cooler than in a sorority, and she wants to be an attorney. What do we need to do to make that happen? When I got my job at Nike coast during there was the one who talk to Levin at nineteen and our twice at Nike about me being a part of the staff after that fast left to go on to be the executive director of the WBZ. A and after six years, I got the job co-starring pushed all the way. And then when I got to run a WNBA teen. She was my biggest cheerleader that was my dream job. And then when I met my husband, Johnny she said to me that I had found my complimented life that Johnny reminded her a lot of Mr. stringer and for everything great that happened in my life. For my graduation of all schools to being there on my wedding day. Not just being there for the graduation from law school, but hosting a party at her home. And I remember when my grandmother passed away who had been the most significant seeking life that morning, I get a phone call from co straighter too. She's more than a coach to me. Coach stringer in everything that I've always wanted to be and then some. And feel grateful that it has been her honor and privilege to be a stepping stone and to be someone who elevates of. So that their dreams can come true. She I I would say that it would be selfish that the the you know, that it's all about a national championship. But I think that coast during their. Her win sparring feed what she's done on the basketball court because for every young woman that she's coached from Cheney to Iowa to Rutgers. She won and all of our lives, but not just our lives. But in the lives of the people that we all have gone on to touch. And so we always say three teen one family one CBS family, and when she was inducted into the Naismith hall of fame, we had a three teams one family calibration to honor her and she bought the Naismith trophy and she had everybody to come in touch the trophy. And she said that a piece of it belong to all of because we all made that happen. Her husband Bill stringers made me believe that there were men in the universe. Who could love a strong black woman a strong woman with a vision in a dream. In clarity. And who could lead. Her children have been selfless and her family, her brothers and sisters and nieces and nephews are all part of the extended CVS basketball family Br grunting jour- hired her at record. Dr Christine grant, higher toured Iowa. I'm not sure who hired her Cheney. But what I do know that all of them positioned her on her sinement because coaching has been more than just a game. It's changed a lot of people's lives, and maybe in stringer changed the trajectory of my life. And that's why when let China called and to Rica, and I would moderate this park. I was honored. So I hope that the stories and the message is that everyone has an opportunity to hear about co stringer and coach Raymond my shell that we're and can't be pundits. Who considered herself feature before it was a change that we would even get to see her as a future? I mean, camping and tasha porno, Linda mounds, and there's so many names that could be called if any Schuler. So Newton one of her favorites. And I've been just so looney co-starring is touch so many lives court date, locking Herber and Andrea harm and. I mean, there's just so many people we all consider ourselves sisters, and though coach is not our mother. I would say that we all proud to call her coach. I'm really excited to share that we have matere on on the phone WNBA player. He has played with the Washington mystics, and what the Atlanta dream. And who knows I could be missing the team. But what I do know is that wherever she was playing. She was competing because competing is what co- stringer always required and Matiz one of the most talented players that ever come out of the state of New Jersey. And I know that coach was really excited. Joe let with recruiting coach wall was recruiting Matiu and not help lead Rutgers too. I think final four right? Correct. And in essence shit. And the national championship game. So. My good job Martinez. You know, what I would want to know from you. This is kind of a fun question. Okay. Based on what you know about co stringer. If Costa here was a superhero fantasy superhero, and she has superpower. What she in terms of superhero in what superpowers do you think she would have? I thought she would. Okay. What tell me about this superhero that you know, and the superpower that she has. I think she's wonder woman. I think she's every superhero, superman, male or female. She's that amazing Cochrane, then a little. Person. And I think a lot of our careers when it comes to, you know, competing, and, you know, being a pro she thought of that at an early thing, they're not saying something that follows the brokers girl. Fact, I would agree with you completely. And so I remember when you guys went to the final four in Cleveland, and we had that situation went down. I'm as an Oprah Winfrey. I remember coach being Oprah. And at the end of the interview with Oprah Winfrey over say Toco stringer Vivian, you make me proud to call myself W O eight and I was like you better say Oprah. But it was a like you said that was a big moment and co-starring or gave you guys a boy, she gave you ladies of wouldn't you think coaching Todd you all in that moment about Joe boy. Had the same. She said never settled for from never let anyone, you know, make you feel mediocre. Never undermine. Yeah. So always feel as if your it. And when you think, oh, shrink or walk. She walks like, she she talks like she's it. And she. Yeah. She you know, she's kinda pet that down to the players and as young females. So she was a, you know, a great role model for myself. She helped me into the first nine AM today will love to give back and also never do anything without it being a hundred percent so emperor. Sure, never better phone. So I definitely gotta thank Australia for that whole myself high center. I absolutely love that. And I think you're right. She forces us all to live at a higher standard. I think that my Angelo and her poem. Phenomenal woman says she walks like she has gold mine pumping in her bed yard. You you're absolutely right about that. How what was it about coach stringer that major want to stay home and play at Rutgers? I think she would that hearing, you know, even get girls that didn't work from New Jersey. You know, they always family family atmosphere. She's like our second mom, and you know, even though she will run us to death. She always cared. And I think that's what brings to the table is what, you know, Rutgers straight. So I'm proud to say, I'm the scarlet Knight. I love that. What is your favorite? Scarlet Knight moment, like your favorite moment as a starlit night. What what was that day? What was that moment? It's been many. But I think the one that are really remember was when we beat it was tournament time. And oh seven when we we beat a Duke, we'd be Duke and great North Carolina. We were to Greenville reason. And I remember do beating us about forty earlier that season December that season. I was coming from a major injury and that Tom Cochrane too. She was probably I mean, we were probably the worst thing she ever coach in her life and. From. Going to laugh over in. We couldn't do anything and. You know, it's about forty and then come in during the incidental as when it was one of the most important games of our lives at the moment and beating them by one off of misery with like, you know, that was like one of the most memorable moments of my life. That was probably one of the biggest kinda rials that they had ever seen. And they probably had it was a setup a setup a failure considering how badly the team lost in the way that you all came back, and that was actually the elite eight that was the game. That took you out to the final four. I think. Yeah. Yeah. Man. No. It was on that would be what's that was that this week sixteen that was the I believe that was a Sweet Sixteen but it doesn't wound tournament though that set the tone. We we knew because we got over them at forty point men. Nobody was touching. Whoa. That is. So like that that that's just so special. That's so special. I think my next question for you. Let's see what the 'cause you are one of the modern players and in terms of this scene, Vivian stringer era. My question what being coaches had a lot of players to play in the WNBA. Why do you think you all have been so successful in the WNBA having played for co stringer? Oh, 'cause I meant to Tokyo, we know how to withstand whatever obstacle comes with. You know, we think that, you know, I'm situation, for example, where it was probably one of the most important women's about odds and to have that very important moment taking away from us. We couldn't you know, we couldn't. It was something that couldn't be taken away from us. So you know, we just had the moving from it. And you know, the, hey professionals at a young age, and you know, that's what I said. That's what coach Ryan big Nakada in the us. And and mental toughness is one of those things that she instilled she demanded, and I feel you know, I still whether in life right now, we still. Are able to withstand situation as matter. Talk a little bit about the whole team anything that's something that she's carried from Cheney to Iowa and Rutgers. What does team unity mean to you? I mean, everything because at the end of the day, you know, this is visited the woman you're spending most time with you're going through battles. You know? We'll see everyone at their ups and downs. It's a sisterhood. So 'cause we're always that's that to us, and we embrace it at at a even during that fun. What we embrace it took a lot of world politics. So realize that that's the only way we would win. And once she was able to get that to to us or we believe in it. There was no going back. So. Everything and Cochrane, you know, she did a great job making that disarming. What? I love that. I also would say that Justin and David and Nina made a lot of sacrifices for us with their mom and sharing their mom with a if you could say anything to just to Dave it just and Anina from her players. What would you want to say to them? Man. For one thing God for creating a special woman like coach friend, you know, they have a very they have angel and she will forever be remembered that that into the game of basketball, and to, you know, the young women that she made a different in their. So, you know, all I can tell you their mom their mom is phenomenal enough said your mom is phenomenal. And I'm like you. I think God that we were fortunate enough to be able to say that she was not only our coach. But she was like a second mom to a and I wanna thank you for your time today and for your insight about who co stringer has been to you and for you. So you take care of yourself, sweetie. And I hope to see you soon. Thank you. Thanks for having. We have with the Karen pie drawn to played on coach Stringer's team at Cheney state university. We've talked to several players but pie is one of co stringers players who got to know her when coach was just a few years older than the players that she was actually coaching. So coach has gotten heard legs under her. She's figured the coaching thing out, and she's the head coach at Cheney state top ten program when you come in and your group those to the final four twice you play in the first in a national championship game. Tell us a little bit about Bibi stringer the coach maybe in stringer the mentor talked to. Us about who. She was. So pumping recruited, you know, spending countless number of hours been recruited talking to the phone and stuff like that. And at that time, I believe David think they was born like especially like she highschool and she's being being created. So we pretty much came up with Justin. I'm David Nina. And and of course, Mr. saying, so she's very thin on still is. But in terms of coaching in at that time, I believe she was teaching as well as Mr. stringer. Yeah. Let's just say that I've stayed away from their clashes because I didn't change they were they did between the two of them talk really really bad and really in. According to some of the players that did have to take classes that'd be prepared. When she walked in. Would it be classroom city indoor on the basketball court show? I stayed on the basketball court, and that was it. But she was very. Thanks. That was my real close school understanding of how to breakdown basketball in terms of not necessarily watching video anything like that. But as a point guard ships eating lead in you would have what we call classroom shedding and stuff like that in depending upon number of plays. He will respond to before you had your breakdown every position not by just talking. But you also have demonstrate that five-way, oh, you know, throw on each play on what the options worries don't like that show you had to understand. And know what she wanted to get out, you know, each plan. So that's that's when she was. You know, what I really like about what you just said is that in order to be an effective coach you have to be an effective teacher. And it sounds like teaching was at the core of her coaching philosophy. Yeah. And on the needed students. I mean, you know, that they're not in in some regards. I mean once you point your finger, just okay? And this is what she's trying to get coffee. Yeah. You know? I think what I love is that in addition to teaching us plays. She told us so many other things just about just so many other things about how to be a woman if you wanted to get an idea of what it looked like to be a wife and a mother, and what it looked like to be a sister, and a friend. I mean, she was always teaching so many lessons. What what was the moment? You knew that having coach stringer as your coach was going to change your life. It wasn't necessarily a particular moment. But it was really then cooling process. You know, we wanted somebody to sort of like hope you be away from home love the game that you play in. But it was a will fit for me in terms of size of the school. But because you were leaving your family, you went to family, and once you have a family, they helped shape and mold you. So when she was recruited me and wasn't always about basketball, and to be honest with you, it was not really about about basketball at all. I mean religious, call just talk, and so developing real close friendship, and you just feel comfortable, and that's how I mean. That's why I wanted to go. And and it was only little thing. Whether she was, you know, putting together a table and student whatever. About on songs that were installation relation to host just talking about hosting brains. And when she went to school just watching her relationship with Mr. strenuous show on in her family, so she made us opponent. And she hoped moves in the better people. I would agree with the, you know, Cheney is where coach started slippery walk and Cheney kinda where she got her start. What is it that you think you and your teammates would? Would want us to know about the time spent at Cheney because you owe overcame a lunch. To with out that experience at Cheney and all of the hurdles that she had to jump. I think that. That's the coach that we would have today would be, you know, very different. But I think that those experiences early on. I had a lot to do with. The perseverance that we see today. What do you think about going higher agree that that, you know, you tune, you know, overcome obstacles, but everything is relative? So what they have seen impossible back. Then you're within your current time playing you looking at any deal with it. And you carry you on things from the past into the teacher into the president, and he learned to to to change in the debt. So her only teaching she bought some of those to us. But at the same time, it was current state, and that's what we've had to deal with and so on so you don't get the past. But you take a little bit. You mean move forward? And that's absolutely what she has done in this strength that she has shown and all of that. I thought it was so beautiful last night. So Cheney state alumni and the players were there, and it looked like, you know, where about twenty Strom or twenty beep and just smiles on everybody say it felt like they should have been playing in the background. I don't know if it's an OJ who it is that things that Li reunion because it really felt like a family reunion with three teen and one family, and she took the time to have the players from each of those respective teams. She brought out front last night after the game. And she spoke to each group of people. And then we all took a picture together kind of bringing together the thing. Three teen one CVS family wanted that mean to you to be connected with so many. Any exceptional women who coach had an opportunity to touch even those that you don't know like you, and I don't know each other. But I always feel connected to you. When I see you. I think it's it's it's sort of like a family trade. So have the person to mentor, and you have to the Twee foods that are you know, of that tree, and we'll all from one person and it's the game of basketball game of life. And each time. She may bring somebody back from one school or a pass play over the talk to that struggle kids trying to get to someplace better ways than you know, you know, canyon. No, no, don't give up each one teach one, and I always reached out to the point guards because that was my position. And just last night. I talked to a point guard was I had heard of play that chain y got exchange. Phone numbers with her last night because she lives in Connecticut that I'm going to call go have lunch, then I reached out to tasha and seeing television while talk about both in remember being treated me being there, especially at Rutgers and going over and having lunch mccone in talking about what she was going to experience. And then each and every time I did see her place. I would have a little conversation with her not necessarily about basketball behind you doing. And so when stick together, and I think that we coach each other. I think that's what to strenuous trying to get each one of us to do not that one team it's better than any other. But it's this game of basketball is just games. And we just wanna share you know, what we can in other from chain. You know, that's interesting too because the Cheney players called her mystery ner and then by the time she gets to Iowa we were calling coach stringer. So even that wasn't evolution in. Time. I think I'm I'm kind of consumed with with this person with this woman with this coach with this teacher and one of the things that in watching in taking everything in last night. What was your takeaway from that entire experience? Her capturing her one thousand win and the confetti all over the place and southlands of people in the building you said you got home around two thirty this morning. And I think I got back to South Carolina little bit after three this morning, and I woke up with this incredible feeling I'm just being consumed with lows and gratefulness. What was it that you walked away from last night? Sara Mony and experienced feeling. Well, it was somewhat opens only because I all you got to come together with former players from all these schools, whether you played with them or not introduced have everybody. They're ready to celebrate this one help guide us college student game with basketball at Bolton through life. You only need to see the bachelor her. She only wants the best for lunch. So the fact that we can get there. Sure. A couple of stories I wrote down with to to alumni from uh Chaney to guys who wanted to also experiences that when and so it wasn't just about the players. But it was about the community that she's involved with wanting to see her just well in. And I often tell them things about a think about the championship game that we did lose. And it's only be plays back in mind. If I'd only done this. You know, did that case might be. She probably would have got you at one thousand probably the day. What case might be? So you sort of think about those kinds of things and you just want the best for her. And it was a a wonderful feeling again just to see everybody there. You're looking saying, hey, that's close in place, but had school whatever that's going such because she tells the one stories about the different players that system. Yeah. I mean, he put it all well, this person did that or whatever. It anybody. But you hear the different stories. I don't know how she does it. But she does. I don't know how she does it either. In one of the things she always would say to us at the end of a game. If we lost the game. It was never really about. Whether we wanna loss, but how we played the game. She always focused on how we played the game. And how that was a standard that we had to hold ourselves of two. And it was just so special to see so many people who have who made the choice to whole themselves to a different standard and who were fortunate enough to have an opportunity to call the Vivian stringer coat, and that was really special pension see a coach in the video the tribute video that I know that she has been really fortunate and blessed to have had an opportunity to work with at Cheney say, and that was coach John Chaney and anything you like to say about their relationship. Oh my God. Just wanting again again by call the two guys last night. We're talking about that. And king j Keith Johnson. He was one of coach fees players using also coach and back. Then what we did was we would all the men and women's team would actually practice different drills together. And of course, you know, they would oftentimes cook bullish. So their relationship was found. I'm I'm thinking possibly that between the two of them. Probably just talking exiting olds all over the place. Strategize and stuff like that. But the fact that we were practiced together. Was phenomenal. And. It was just amazing because what you had were too great coaches, but the ability to speak in the storytelling, you just sit there and be mesmerized into. Okay. I can I can find little to train. I can't I cannot know. That's what you got on a day-to-day basis working with the two of them. And when they got together to scaly a beautiful thing. So it was great. And I think I read I really like about that is how co stringer is a very strong woman in her own, right. But I really love that we had an opportunity to witness her demonstrating respect for for men. She demonstrated a tremendous amount of respect for John chainey. But the respect she had adoration and love displayed for her husband, Mr. William Bill stringer is something that I will always cherish for the rest of my entire life. I don't know if there's. Another husband to a college basketball coach to was so at peace and supporting and loving and elevating his wife. So I'm I'm excited that you got to see Mr. stringer and co stringer on the front end of their relationship. And I got to see it on the back end. And it just was confirmation of what love really is. So I wanna thank you Karen pie. John for your time. And all of the ladies that Cheney state university who got this thing started along with the ladies at slippery rock, and I'm grateful for the lady said I played with at Iowa. And those who were there it was all guys and for the ladies from workers university coats, it at her one thousand wins or combination of the hard work that. We all put in. And so we are all grateful and bliss to have been witnesses and to be participants experience and the journey to one thousand wins. I hope that you all have a fantastic day. And thank you for enjoying and being a part of this podcast. Thank you very much. Was fortunate at the time that I was coaching where the mindset of the NCAA is was if you wanna be this. You have to play the best is fittingly. They were no the business. You can play division between three hundred snoozing this one and truly resume Cheney. Who was we're effort as we had what the two thousand business and playing you know, Tennessee and Verron 'cause they all the rest of because what we knew is it really isn't that where you come from it. It is where you know, you're going to do with what you have. And all they have got five and they've got a ball out there. That officials. Play. I can't believe it. Let Philip brought his little brother on our mission into orbit. How long until we get there alone till we get there. I'll get there. No. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with Geico. What's this button downs? What's this? What's this button? Do this. Gyco. Goodson you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. I am excited to have Kathy conduct's there who was the self proclaimed future of the WNBA while she was still in high school in Chicago at Marsh. Oh, playing for a hall of fame coach in her own, right? Dorothy Gators, it's with me now and essence Carson who is a native of the state the Garden State of New Jersey and decided who stay home and create help to ensure shore up from the bait that Rutgers would remain a topic, our and women's basketball, so essence happy thank you so much for joining us. Both are WNBA all stars in their own, right and competed and won WNBA championship. So thank you all for. For being here to record sinus. So thank you. And also found out that both are residing in Los Angeles, though, LA is lucky to have two of the best to ever play the game calling at home still lady. My first question her you is. When co string or came to recruit you. What was it that made you decide that this should be the coach that you should send your talent invest your talents with in New Brunswick? What made you decide that? This was the coach that I should spend the next four years playing for in pursuit of NCAA championships and big east championships. For me. It was you know, it gave up the whole family atmosphere. You know, it was she was very family oriented, not I like that little workers wasn't too far from home. But at the same time, I was going to be heading into new phase of life, and you know, do much walking in to a totally new family. You know, what it was the team and I needed to feel comfortable, especially at that time where I was just super introverted and didn't really a lot. I just needed to be around people and around someone that can totally trust, you know, outside of basketball. And then, you know, on the court, she was you know, at that point. She was already one of the greatest ever, you know, coast again with basketball. So I need that. I can get the best outta my game. If I went there, you know, I can learn the most you know, from her. Thank you essence, Kathy. Same question. I mean, you know, like for me, my experience is so unique because like I was considered a high school fee nom coming out of Chicago back, then you know, like, I was heavily recruited by Yukon. So in my mind, that's what we're always going. And then my bench are at the time tasha pointer, she had decided to go to Rutgers which turned into me meeting coach LA because you know, I was around tasha every evening playing basketball. So when I met coach laws like young, she's like, she's so cool. You know, and then after that happened, and I had experienced USA basketball. All of a sudden Rutgers is in a picture now, you know, and it's and it's and it was truly because the coach stringer, you know, her infectious of energy and vibe that I got from her just from the the moment. I got on the phone where the moment that I saw her at my high school games, my Ayu games to her taking a home. Visit. I was just like, you know, what like this this woman, especially no don't even have to say many words, you feel her energy you feel her love her gene was spirit right away. And I think from that moment, you know, I just knew that that's where I was meant to be to be under her arms to be taught by her because my mom is the same way. And it just resonated. I just like it's the perfect place to be, you know, no questions about it. You know, a lot of people gave me a lot of backlash to not going to calm. But I think at the end of the day and this moment of time. They're the guy report me to go to Rutgers. And how special or is? Cathy. I think that you cutting out of set it better when coach stringer walks into a room for anyone important walks into a room there or consumed that space, and you know, that they are important than so I wouldn't even read what you completely. So you know, based on what you all both just shared. What do you think is co string or strongest personal quality because both of you talked about things that she has shared with you things you've learned from her. But when you think about her until tally. What do you think is strong as personal quality? Wow. I mean, ability the person there's definitely for strongest in my life. You know, she's been through so many things throughout their entire life. That you would think a woman a woman, and her profession would probably step away from the game on the shelf some time, and you know, except with me being completely, but she actually use each of those events that happen, you know, throughout her lifetime to to motivate her and just dressed her even further into greatness, you know, whether it's battling cancer and nothing worried about it. But still showing about practice showing up the games, you know, you know, right after driving a couple of hours to the daily for treatment. And what you know, you know, you know, usually someone asks you step away from the game and. Take time all you know, so undergo treatment, she's staying with it, you know. And then also with the death of her husband at all, you know, we should point career. That, you know, her daughter. There's so many things that you can you know. Talk about the guards spender that you you just look at it like, wow, it's women's definitely decide to persevere she made it through and she still managed to be, you know, a bright lights shining light and world that sometimes sees the guard, and you know, she's definitely motivate. You know, people wanted to do the same didn't give up and no matter what situation you come from or situation. You're in. That's awesome. Her ability to persevere, she is absolutely resilient essence. That's so well said, Cathy, what is co stringer strong as personal quality from your point of view. I think it's kinda tough to pinpoint one, you know, essence made a great point of her perseverance. But for me, I think I think she was just born the birth of nation of young women. I think she was born to do that. Because the type of women that come into her life that she raised from eighteen to twenty one. I mean, it's just we've all turned into something special. And I think God has given her that purpose specifically designed for her, and nobody would be able to handle the girls that she's handled and still managed to being their lives after fifteen twenty years, not even planning more. So for me that's been quality and just her ability to to raise him women. You know on last night they had the ceremony for coach stringer following the one thousand victories and the video included the the guys from TNT shack. Kenny Smith Charles Barkley, Ernie Johnson. And then the coaches who are already in the one thousand win club. Kobe Bryant pops up Whoopie Goldberg hub, the you know, the governor of the state of New Jersey. Is there the former, you know, athletic directors Bob McKay who made her a million dollars coach is there. It was just an unbelievable moment. Best bands. The former executive director of the WBZ a was there and Daniel Donahue from the WBZ a and care of different ESPN Rene around from the WNBA. It was done Staley and her staff was. There. Former coaches like Gillette law and Marianne Freeman. And it was absolutely incredible Angie Lee from Iowa just one of the most beautiful sites that one could see and Kathy you NS and folks have alluded to it. But for coach it's always been about more than just a win. And you could see the relationships and the people who treasure her than she treasures them. What are you all treasure most about your your relationship with co stringer like when people say, hey, that's my coach what makes that relationship with her? So special more than that just the basketball coach, can you help people to kind of see the essence of who she is. And what she means to you. Maybe there's a story you have the share about your relation. Ship. And when you knew that, it was truly an authentic relationships. That would withstand the test of time. Man. Wow. I mean, we all you know to go to. Talking a notch traditional route with the she love music. I was trained. And. What she did was. She said, you know, I come there if she learned how to play like the first movement of like, my Tanada, and I'm thinking that that's no way. Like, it's never gonna happen travel so much no time if something that you sit down. At once. I I went on my ficials. Visit she. Here. No. And she asked me play personal, and I was just ladies series. So she's dedicated once she religion or something. She you know, she she comes through. She threw with a word, and that myself that many realize that someone could trust and from that point on I knew that she would always have my back. I was about my grandparents, and you know, they both have passed on and going on. And you know, she made sure she was there at both homegrown going services. Even after I had already never program, and you know, well into my w NBA career, you know, she always leads that connection family connection. I really appreciate that about her because she's like mother, and you know, I think a lot more athletes need that in their lives. It's not only by the game of basketball. But it is about the game lifetime love that. Thank you essence capi. What are you most treasure? And is there a story or something related that keeps you connected to her? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I think about my junior year on my cousin was murdered in Chicago. And I was very devastated, you know, because he was like a brother to me, and I didn't I didn't know how to function in life after that for a long period of time. And I was gonna dark space. You know, I didn't care about school. I didn't care about basketball. I was just totally confused on why you know, such a great person was murdered and. I got kicked out of school because of stop doing my schoolwork and coach stringer. I I was literally going back to go back to Chicago and probably do nothing. No. Because I was I was that. I was I was especially in the dark place at a young age and just remember co stringer calling my mom, Kathy is not coming home. Happy going to get a job cap was going to be reinstated back in school. And I'm gonna make sure it happened. You know, my mind, I'm not thinking, I'm I'm being you know, young teenagers. I mean, a young adult at this time. And I'm just like no coach like, I really don't care, you know, like, I don't even care anymore and just her love that she poured only for the next month in combat all never ever forget. 'cause it was a moment where my mom wasn't able to be there for me because she living in Chicago. So. Not just remember the people that she constantly put around me to make sure that I was focused on getting back into school. And I just remember. Just her checking in when the every single day making sure I was okay. Make sure I got some food. Make sure I was working out this prepare myself to come back in school. And I just remember that being like when I came back. I remember it was so cool filling because we worked so hard in the short period of time that I was there that we were able to make us assessable end of the season going into the final four or whatever, you know, opposition wasn't NC double A tournament. But I just remember her just shooting me with so much love, you know, the love that the kinda love that. I need it from my mom, but it was hurt. Wow. Camping. I'm almost in tears listening. Here's talking about it all the time. That is like incredible. I have a picture on my wall. Of a guy a painting of a guy reaching over the wall. Like a hand pulling up another person. And you can't see faith is all you can see a hand. I think the United way also has like the thing that says people aren't asking looking for a handout just a hand. But the title of this pitcher the caption it says he ain't heavy like Gilbert young. And for me that's kind of what co stringer has represented. She's been pulling all of us up. And what's crazy is it's not just one of us. She's pulling up, but if all of and that's all that we have not been too heavy for her to give all of herself to us. And she says day after day. You know, she ain't having we ain't happy. You're not heavy. I got you. And I think we all love her so much for that. What do you think about at the end of the national championship game? They SPN interview or regain on Goma wa and she said if you wanna come to Notre Dame you wanna win championships come to Notre Dame. If you wanna win championship, you know, if you if you go to play for co stringer. What are you win? What do you gain? What are you earn? So much. You know, just you know, what I earlier just the the tangles like, you know, what it goes fast ball. Of course, we all love again back in about it one thing that has all the that life is bigger than sport that what you're gonna do for the next year. Birth. Exit. So if you wanna learn Bill characters learn how to win in life dental and life at. To be whether it's being above what we know. Sister'd on the you know. She definitely gets you. How to do that in another way? And and not only that. But also be able to export your town. Thanks on that. Doc any other program in the country at all it just you know, it's just a little bit of hey likely points that you know, we aren't that ball basketball players. You know, we play basketball. But that's not what we are doing. I, you know. And I think that we especially in a state that we are in at decided is very intricate. I mean, it's very, you know, important for us to learn how to be better who'd be and I love that. I love that. I love that. I'm thinking that you know, basketball is not a basketball is not a game. It's life. Let me show you the way let me show you how to play because I think with everything that coaches done. She's shown us how to not just play the game of life. But how to win at it? They kathy. This is the question like you. To answer. And then and then we'll wrap up, but I would love to know, maybe both of you. 'cause you're in the entertainer in that LA face last question, if there was a movie written about coach, or a film, if Oprah Tyler Perry did a movie about Stringer's life, who do you think should play the starring role of the Vivian stringer, and what might be things on? Oh, that's that's hard. That's too bad. You know, one answer either one who might play her starring role in essence in the music. So essence, you might tell me who what might be the things on. So Cathy, my place even being stringer in a movie. I probably have to go with y'all y'all right now because she's like young. And you know, she she's respecting the coaster in terms of like if you just I looking at her. So I would say, yeah. Yeah. Some of t-. She's she was on top model, but then she moved into the space of x acting. So now, I I would definitely go with her. But they music I let essence acid that. But I mean, I don't know. I think if she was have a movie about her life. It would it would definitely change so many people live. It was inspired so many people, and I think I'm glad we put that in the air because she deserves it. That thinks so too, and I see Angela Bassett playing her and her kind of later years, and I can't even imagine who would be able to get it done in those early years with so many people out there. Hey, what what you think what would be our things on? Well, one of his favorite song and dance dining McLaughlin. I've been dented probably finish out the movie beginning Roby, we thinking about like a soundtrack, you know, like some Stevie Wonder like his earlier days because those are things are, and you know, artists that she that she loves, and I like you said, I'm glad that we're putting into the air and into the universe and hopefully with the manifest some good energy, and it actually happens. But yeah, I'm gonna have to go with Johnny mclagan for things, but she his life that and then with her book the baby stringer the book about her life story. It's called standing tall, and it still available on Amazon and in any place where you can buy a book like Barnes and nobles. And so that that would be that would be great. I like that stand and. I agree with you both. It would be a story that would be well told and have been your careers have been willfully, and I know that co-starring stringer loves you both dearly and that just want to thank you for your time for your love. And for your dedication and commitment to the game. You both have been incredible role models. And I love you. Thank you. Katie Abraham Henderson at someone that I had an opportunity to play with my freshman year, and I and payday had transferred back in from the university of Georgia. She's home grown from the state of Iowa. And because of that you can understand why she would want to get away from the snow, but I am really grateful that payday the side of the come back, and it's funny. She didn't just get away from this. No now living in Orlando, Florida with Mickey and Minnie and coaching at the university of central Florida. But today, I want to ask you, Katie when you beside it to leave Georgia, you could have gone anywhere in the country that you wanted to go you were just that. Well, thought of and highly sought after as a player what made you decide to come back home and play because stringer. The university of Iowa. Yeah. I mean, it's such a, you know, the recruiting processes is it's a lot. And so at the time, you know, I thought in my head of the person that I wanted to leave home and actually coach stringer head just got the job on the tail end of me making my college decision. So I didn't know a whole lot about her. And I as a young person, I thought I wanna get away from home, you know, and that was what I really thought. And then I left home. And then I realize when my heart and my family and everything, and and so I spent you know, some really good years at Georgia to George had a lot of client experience, but it was more. So I was just so far from my family that was really big. And so having Bill coach stringer and Marianna Freeman was is coach there, and and knowing my family was closed and no one string. There was a family person. And you know, obviously, she had the the program had built up after two years, and it was still. A great program. And so, you know, I was very very lucky that coach during was willing to take me back and we actually had played into AA tournament. Georgia play the NC double A tournament Iowa. They're there at a different playing in the in a different game. So all the I coaches, so again, and you know, everybody was just awesome. So after that year, I decided no maybe I wanted to go back home until very grateful that coach during her and her coaches took me back. Katie. I also ask you that. I felt like there were so many lessons that we learned along the way, and you're not both had the pleasure of playing what Michelle Edwards when she was the national player of the year. And there were some core lessons that coach stringer. I think the pot make you know, deposited into a I'm not sure. But is there anything that you have taken from your experience as a player with her that you now attempt to transfer or make deposits into your own players at central Florida as well. And you know, all any or southeast Missouri today you've been at this for a while. But what is it that? You've carried with you. Yeah. I think there are you know, I've I've been very less to play for two hall of fame coaches and work with some hall of fame coaches to and I feel like I've taken some from everyone and from coach stringer. I think two of the. Biggest things for me that I still in still in my players here at UCF in Albany. And you know, wherever I've been is family. I I mean that was something that was coach stringer, and that's not our family. That's basketball failure the athletic department family. You know, our our teammates are sisterhood coaches everything. I mean, that's family thing. I mean, I have family up on my wall. You're my office that UCF I have family with one of our pillars for the programs Macree, ding. So I think that's I think the second biggest one is coach during uses different words, but mine is empowering young with it. I mean, and that she doesn't want her women to feel less and on the basketball court, but also in the life that is one of her biggest thing she's just coach stringer just does not want any woman to feel like they're less in the world. And so she really instilled that in me, she still. Instill doesn't news all of our players that no basketball is to end. And so when you prepare yourself for life. I don't want you to feel less got empower themselves. We got empower you as strong young women to go out in the world and be great be great. And whatever you choose to do. And I think that word in use power all the time. I think that's something that she really instilled in b and she really instilled in everybody else. I like that. If you had to make the team unity thing was really big for us as players, and we didn't just say the words, we live those words and even till today. I think that we all know that if we needed each other we count on one another what would you say in your opinion will be co string legacy now as a coach as a very successful coach who you have let your team to conference championships, you wanna WN IT championship. And you understand and you get it that winning is important. But I think he said a moment ago. It's not everything. What do you think? In your opinion will be co stringers legacy to the game. I think a great leader, great room mater, great fighter for women score. It's a great fighter for diversity in in in close in women scores. I mean holy smoke. I mean, all the things over the years. I mean, she started out coaching at chaining where we get paid. And for women. They are offer. There's an offer everything. And then she came to Iowa those fought for us and everything we did and being that role model, energy or minute you watching their feet washing. Her be watching wife and be watching mother he watching her going through struggles. But still staying long and never letting your failures define her just, you know, tough times never loud, but tough Goud that with her and so such a great role model in our is watching her. And so when we saw her, you know, some struggles, and she didn't really bring it to us that much. But we saw it would made us strong made us wanna fight for her. You know? And I think she's done that Iraq was to all the things that that she's been there. And there's other things she's been through that. She probably didn't tell a lot of us, but she's such a fighter, and she's such a strong young strong strong human being that I think as young women of every race every nationality every up in the city that you look to somebody like that as a role model 'cause women don't have a lot of strong role models in the world today. And so that's what I look at her as like a really strong role model, and you can you could be any race nationality, ethnicity, whatever, and you can find something about her that she you wanna be like her because there's just so many positive, and she's just so strong. She's you know, anybody woman, but she's just so at least I like wrong, I never it'd be. We got never saw her. Down. I never saw her when he of those things, and so she was such a great role model to all of us and still is still is when here speak. You just you just you just get him feel empowered. Because as a woman you wanna be that in life and not let anybody make you feel less. I think that is an incredible or sponsor that is a really good which bonds, you talk about coaching or being a fighter and not wanting us to always even know what she was dealing with when she was battling breast cancer while head coach at Rutgers her staff even know she was leaving the state to go and get her treatment. And they just thought she changed her hairstyle like black women. Do we kind of transformed into all of these different people based on our hair? But I love I think India are- had phone. I am not my hair and stringer Pugh proved that even though she's very genteel and very professional and very classy and very lady like then I'm thinking like hair whatnot defined her or her look because her look and her beauty always resonated from the inside out, and I just like the choice of the word. Biter because she's a survivor and Katie you've been surviving as well. And I'm just so proud, and I know that co-starring or proud of the job that you're doing and that you chose to enter the profession that she made her life assignment. Thank you for taking time away from practice. Is there anything else you would want to say that maybe we didn't capture? Yeah. I mean, I think there's there's not a lot of because I'm the head coach and his business, and there's not a lot of people left that is that are gonna reach a thousand wins. I mean, that's crazy. That's a remarkable feat. And I don't think in this business anymore. That coaches are going to be have that staying power. I mean, she has big time staying power because he knows what she's doing. But more importantly, she has a lot of staying power because you really is fighting for women and equality for women in in in the sport in in in an. I think that a thousand wins. I mean, that's that's a hall of fame coach that that's very hard to come by. I don't even know what mine is maybe four hundred. I will definitely might make it thousand that's a long way away. No, I'm getting older. So what she's done is remarkable all the places she's been to be able to get two thousand. That's that's just amazing. I would agree with they lack in Kurt. I could occur. Babe. You on your way to at least get into five hundred and the next two years. So now that all of your devious sisters are rooting you on that. I love you. You have a great day at practice. So thank you. Love it too. We just wanna send a huge thank you to Felici hall. Alan in all of the guests who have made this podcast so special. We hope the fans enjoyed it. We hope you now have a better idea of the impact of coach c Vivian stringer. Congratulations to coach stringer on one k good luck to Rutgers do the rest of the season. And we hope that you will continue to download listen to around the rim podcast. You can find us on the ESPN app or whenever podcast at you used just go in search around the rim. You can find us on Twitter at around the rim. Pied you can Email us at around the rim podcast at g mail dot com. On twitter. I am at la-. China Robinson to Rica is at she knows sports underscore. So he does up with comments ideas thoughts suggestions shares. But thank you so much. But before we go you've been hearing snippets of an interview that coach finger head with our J hem of ESPN, and we're gonna finish off this podcast with the rest of that interview. We are grateful today into coach stringer for the sharing. And we hope that you pick up even more nuggets than you already have throughout this podcast. So we hope you enjoyed the interview we will see next week. General night on ESPN radio. I'm Jay Reynolds. Joined now by coach c Vivian stringer who picked up career win number one thousand earlier tonight, as you know, becoming just the fifth coach in women's basketball history. Six d one night overall coach what does this achievement mean to you? Well, it means that that I've lived them of had two minutes people that into ministry, supportive and goddess allows me to be surrounded with people that really believe in the visit that I've been it was this year, and I'm grateful. I'm truly grateful. You're talking about the people who have been supportive there were there was some note worthy people in the stands tonight. The governor South Carolina coached on Staley. What does that say to you? Well, you know, what I I feel fortunate. I wonder while you know, they appreciate that. Anyone would take the time as that'd be the thing that came out. So many of of my coaches that that I was a part of that came in from Iowa City and players that came from Iowa City recognize on my sisters and brothers came from everywhere. I had a player that flew in from Hawaii. It's like, oh, I mean, that's me know that you know, maybe I'm doing some things. Right. People cared enough to to wanna smile and celebrate it I am so four, and I appreciate that that they did that. And you know, sometimes, you know, they say, well, you can never know what you need until something happens. But I'm grateful that everybody says they their love and who to what they think of me now, and I can never thank you. And all the people who've get me that that three benefits as. Mutters beating central Connecticut state earlier tonight giving coach c Vivian stringer win number one thousand we mentioned there's not a lot of coaches who have come in their win total. What do you remember about win number one? Anybody asked me, and I really honest to goodness cannot tell you because I don't know. I really don't I was still excited. I was so if I did fortunate, but but I honestly never win number one. If I had known that we were gonna be dismissed, and then I would have to it end point of difference. You know, what when you think about this whole incident, you know, I, but I really didn't know we have never schools play. But I think that as you know, with a fortunate at the time that I was coaching where the mindset of the NCAA is was if you wanna be this. You have to play the best is certainly it wouldn't know the business you can play division. You can be three hundred Susan for this one and truly. I mean Cheney who was where I I saw it as we had but two three thousand students and playing you know, Tennessee, and Maryland and Penn State and all the rest of because what we knew is it really getting that where you come from it. It is where you know, we're going what you do with what you have. And as long as they have five we've got five and they've got a ball every fficials display, and that's been on this been a mindset, and you know, as long as we can continue. You too for some people like that. What got same mindset and not mine about, you know, money's anything equipment nothing. That's just play that. I feel very fortunate to do because of game that I love so much truly has progressed in developed over the course of the years, but you mentioned the mindset of the players and and giving their age, they're human beings. How is coaching a game like this where there's a milestone outside pressure. How does coaching change for you and keeping the players focused. Well, you know, there are a lot of a lot more things that have on television war attraction that is of tribe's player. It's the play the next level. There's parents that are involved in life. You know, take children to training camps and helping them become more specialised than and what they do with an eye toward playing at the next level. I like it better when you just play for sake appoint it's all pray for the sake of plane. That's it. 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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 640: Will Football Be Ready By September, NBA H-O-R-S-E Tournament, & Will The Dolphins Trade For #1 Pick?

GSMC Sports Podcast

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 640: Will Football Be Ready By September, NBA H-O-R-S-E Tournament, & Will The Dolphins Trade For #1 Pick?

"This is your ultimate staffer. Everything sports the Golden state media concepts or podcast. Should I say more from the NFL MLB THE NBA MMA? It's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen now had s MC podcast. Now Look we listening as always taking the times out of your days. Whatever it is that you're doing to get through this Quarantine at the time. Thank you thank you for taking time to listen minding Kris blades. And before you start here today when Michelle remind you guys as always to the to subscribe to the podcast. If you have not ready we should never miss episode. Also if you please gives a foster radio president of you very appreciate very helpful to language you dislike see the ways we can improve all that fun stuff and also you social media. We are SOC MUSICA finest. They are twitter. Instagram facebook. Talk we chat and Kim Debate. We can discuss. And Yeah we can get through this trying time as sports fans together and speaking of discussions The president who has had an obviously had many discussions revolving around or involving the corona virus. Kobe nineteen he had a big one with the Commissioner of major of a lot of the major sports leagues this weekend which I thought was interesting. in a conference call with major sports leagues with maters. Was You commissioner on Saturday The president said he believes the. Nfl season should start on time in September sources. Familiar with the call. Today's And was the joint article right on. Espn but I'll tell you. Look this up anywhere. But yes so. Trump also said he hopes to have fans back and stadiums and arenas by August and September sources said although it is clear the currently on certain medical experts. Find that to be realistic timetable. Which again reasonable. Which is reasonable because this is molly unpredictable and and whether or not you want to believe everything coming out of China is fair. But what sounds like they may be getting this second wave which many Health experts have caution. Could very well happen. And that's probably because again until you have a vaccine for it as we talked about a little bit on the last episode. It's hard to Ever since offered to just go away completely doesn't even when the cases are now you've been under control than it could still pop up 'cause again there's no necessarily there's no cure for it and people working on that which again. I give credit to all those people ladder in charge of and on top doing that just because they are doing work. That could very well help save lives. We're not very well will end up saving. Lives down the road but like until that time. We don't have a curious that we gotta be cautious Moving and grooving out there but if we're not careful then again we could even get control. There could be secondly that pops up though hopefully by then hospitals will be better prepared to handle it and then that will lead to ofi less casualties but due to the fact that virus and and in Bacon Mutate in develop differently over time We don't really know how it's GonNa work so it'd be as cautious possible He talked the president talks about one van back in arenas obviously like went safe and stuff but he wanted fan back Marina Like you said mentioned on the fans they WANNA see basketball. They WANNA see baseball. They WANNA see football. They WANNA see hockey. They WANNA see sports. It wouldn't be able to go out to golf courses and enjoy just like I said just go well which people are doing anyway but nothing in there. I'm going outside and enjoy fresh and being able to be around people and not have to worry about this kind of thing and not have to worry about going to the store and like getting sicker or Ama- France and getting sick or just going out anywhere being anywhere in house you can still get sick inside your house because again if somebody brings it in there. So yeah it's it's a whole. It's a whole mets. But the interesting thing. Kind of that stemmed from that discussion to me is just the way in which different governors and late word. I guess ninety ended but The way in which different governors have discussed the possibility of football being back on just sports in general coming back In in regards to that I WANNA know the California Governor Gavin newsom addressed whether he believed that. Nfl season would open in August or September with eighty thousand fans telling reporters Saturday Ananta spitting. That is happening in this state. It's interesting I have a lot of friends that work in Major League baseball in the NFL. Even asking me in fact it won't on happy just asked me football player. If he expects to come back said our move. Very cautiously in that expectation was the whole point. Is You're not going to try to second guess anyone but it's argued determine this far out It doesn't happen in obviously. California is not as bad as New York is in terms like the cases and everything though. I know they were having Michigan like proper tests stuck. I know the other governors had a couple of weeks back. They got some tests but they were faulty. So again that's cool while the numbers aren't aren't as high just because protests properly though and again this is not necessarily a sports thing but I was just thinking about this New York is the only major city that like everyone's main made main mode of transportation. Is Po traditionally you most other well hyphen cities that you think of Like Alpha like La Atlanta's the Chicago's different cities like in Florida. Like any major city. You can really fair it. Many have that have the poppies that you can think of most drive while you're it's like we're not be buying a car is a different thing. But they usually just say they'd take Uber's or they take Job themselves as well so much traffic on the roads and are not. There isn't traffic in. New York's people do still dry but As you with the New York System Insurance Pella CASSIE system has developed a lot of issues. But just as big as it is makes it makes us that more more feasible and then because you're in close confined space with everybody and you're all right touching the same things every day in. Saint. Mary's reading the same air. So it makes sense why more cases just because everyone so normally so closely packed together at all times where for whatever reason. I have to do more research on this as to why this is but Most other cities there aren't really. They don't have them on. I've been to La mostly throughout like walking there. You're you're taking Uber's everywhere. Whatever no one's or I mean some people that I know that there's a train system in la. I took one but it's not like the main mode temptation like most people in New York. You that he neuberger taken like the the subway or become from Jersey take nj transit like no one's Nevada people driving into the city now obviously very few because there are people do but most people aren't driving to the city and jogging around within the city every day and then driving back home wherever you are also men because the parking New Yorkers can very tough so just instinct Thought on why. New York's numbers are higher than everyone else. But I said back to the back to the sports He mentioned the like. I said the governor of California which he isn't really expect that to happen Governor Cuomo of New York said that he would love to have sports back tough with the cabin fever but this is not about hopes and dreams aspirations in what we would like to see so And I mean that's a fair point you don't want everyone wants sports back. That's obviously that goes without saying no one. Here is happy that there are no sports to watch at the moment but at the same time you want to make sure you're putting everyone in the best case. Scenario IS THE HEALTH Y. You don't want people like you say you don't want to open things back up too early for now. You expose thousands and thousands millions of people across the country with the disease and now too big not too big issue. You don't WanNa have to deal with that but in the SOS you would run if you open The The country back up too soon. And that's that's kind of the issue. Is that you kinda known. No one everything's GonNa be quieted down when everything's going to be under control and until it happens or until we have an idea of what happens hard to say for certain what is and what isn't going to happen this year in terms of sports wise. And obviously you think all right offices what we're in being April so that's like three four months away on September three or four months away. So you would think are we should people should be. We should not distancing thing should have worked the quarantine you should have worked though flat curfew to flat and we should be good but again with not all states adhering to the administering a stay at home. Mandate for state. It's hard to say for certain where where are in what parts of the country would be better off than others. So it's hard to say for certain. What states can be ready if any at all like? I said there's no guarantee that anything will be ready to nine name talking about the fans as we go because that's the Alabama's GonNa Happen even if we've units is football played island is GonNa be fancier it'd be too. It'd be too hard to maintain packages like I'm saying all it takes is one person at one game of the virus in the stands and there's bring them to any big eight of Jerry World Metlife Stadium and all right you want that person affect thousands. Wami could in turn end up affecting infecting thousands of people because all you he touches one service costs on one service and one person touches it then. They bring to thread neighbor to be a whole mess. So you don't want them saying you don't want back so that's I don't even think even sports do come back this year. There's not going to be with Ann's it doesn't make any sense also. Nba Commissioner Adam Silver. Tole told those on the call that the leagues were the first that leaves with I is shutdown and that they would love to lead the that the NBA was one for a season shutdown. Obviously or was he I in Arco. Shut DOWN. He would love to lead the way in restarting the economy wants. There's an all clear from public health officials so then that's an important distinction just because you don't want As much as people would like for things their start up and I guess we're closing on a month year because the NBA Spending by March eleventh so it is now you are hearing this on Monday. So it's April sixth so it's been almost a month. Which is crazy. Feel a lot longer but See they up to be the first star backup on. That seems reasonable. Makes Sense for us to shut down for his star back but again? You can't do anything before stuff is ready. So yeah the The commissioners on the call and top executives on the call were from you had an NFL NBA Major League baseball NHL MLS WNBA wwe. Which at Ted Wrestlemainia Sunday Weird because again you would think another was the one big match where the one was A. Wwe Twenty four seven championship. Bowden is like there's like thirty people are not not say thirty. It like a bunch of people in that match the whole also distancing thing and even like I said with the match themselves like the nasty retailer not really the mandate like six feet apart those like even if you don't have fancy though kind of weird whatever missing man so the show must go on. I understand She had me. Pga Tour LPGA. You have seen NASCAR INDYCAR and Breeders Cup. According to the White House report and like the president said in understanding so all of them wants to be back and they're trying to find a way to get back and we're all waiting for them to come back but it's hard to say for serving when and if that will happen also against notably the National Women's Soccer League commissioner said they weren't included on the call. So that's unfortunate for them. Because you would think I mean the I mean in a statement the the League put out the their the actually leader and one of the fractional sports in for soccer in this country so you would y yeah you'd want if you include. Wnba include the LPGA Tour Year including women's leagues or just weird that they wouldn't include out one of all these not conclude but on non-target meetings. We should unfortunate for them. They were included on the call. Hopefully they can be included in future call so again they are. They are just as much a part of the sports situation as every as everyone else. So I said that's unfortunate for them but yes those interesting. I didn't not something I expected to be reading about over the weekend. Was that The president is going to be meeting with not meeting obviously but talking with all the commission's about one to expect or went to hope for things to come back but I said for right now I'm not getting my hopes up. I would advise none of you guys. Get your hopes up. Too Too much Just hope that by June July is June five a little optimistic say say by July We can at least be a go outside more regularly than other until like the grocery store and stuff. That's that's happening in all right. I believe sports are happening at some time at this point this year. That's if we're if Ryan June and there's no end in sight for this I would pretty much Pack up any chance of US having sources here again. We'll see how that goes but I'm not too optimistic yet. Hopefully Us as Americans will give them more reason to be optimistic Future in terms of adhering to different things are governors putting different things in place in order to make sure that the the spread of the curve is flattened Kasese. Many people thought this this upcoming weeks and months where you're going to be the worst of it in. Hopefully I mean not not say that. That's a good thing that is going to be a lot of people catching the virus. But apparently it should go down from here for do things right. Which don't we know we have been but we can be hopeful of that and if that happens in are looking more towards our when I come back right now is I. Just say safe say healthy. We'll get sports. Women Get sports which is hopefully at some point this year. Because I don't know I don't know I think this country agrees with with almost with I. Guess what nine months of no sports? If there's blood into twenty twenty one. I think the country will crazy so but as what we're looking at so you gotta live with which you can live with. Hopefully we can get something going at some point later this year but on positive side or on a more positive note there was another announcement this week. And and that was the hall of fame. Inductees for the Basketball Hall of fame. So talk about who made it An awesome stuff. 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Tsmc PODCAST DOT COM for more info and the ES broadcast so this new incoming offing class on paper Mugabe argue may be one of INNOVA- Mostar said it Class ever enter the names? The naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of fame and all eight finalists led by the lake. We burn rb Tim Duncan and Kevin. Garnett were selected. Saturday for enshrinement and will be inducted. August twenty ninth in Springfield Massachusetts Bryan Duncan and Garnett will be joined by ten time. Wnba ALL-STAR TO MIKA catching. Excuse me Coach Kim Mulkey of three-time women's NCA champion champion Baylor Five. I'm division to go to the year Barbara Stevens of Bentley University four-time NCA coach year. Eddie Sutton and former rockets coach Rudy Tomjanovich. A two-time title win. In addition the final to the finalists longtime feeble executive. Patrick Baumann was like as inductee bringing the class of twenty twenty two nine six three four five six yet. So I'm from the moment on this. Get on the ESPN article but For the moment They are eligible was assured Dunkin Garner and Brian would entering the hall of fame but a Pale was cast over. What should have been a Salvatori moment? Obviously as we know because of the passing of Kobe Bryant that should have been celebrate and a time are in the induction of two of the greatest player that their positions in terms of Tim Duncan I guess depending on what? You were the Colin Powell for our center. I mean you could. Argue is the best other Olympic. He's a lot of people. Miss POWERFUL IS HE GONNA be the best power forever. And you've Kobe Bryant. Who's arguing greatest to guard in? What the well defined arginine wool. My generation like the post Jordan generation. New US at an easily The the greatest the greatest Two out of our time am I guess? Only other countries to Rahab was delayed and delayed but I was a little better That in that's not to disrespect Kevin Garnett and in his own right because again though he's not Tim Duncan and he's not Kobe Brian he's still one of the easy one fifty greatest players to planning on played The play in the NBA Carry team for a while with symbols and Ozzy when Became one of the modern the first modern error super team few ause though they were a little bit older With the ball southland. One Jam ship with them and then and then like I said at them players. Don't get to to me catching who was a great wnba player. I'm just a great bass with overall but not in One of the best W W play over time. A A coach in face. Kemoko's one through won three national championships. While at Baylor which I mean most most verify coaches that on on either side that have one multinational James Shifts let alone three and now she lets you ever let me talk about the even the lower the quote unquote lower tier coaches. When you have like a person's one coachee to five times like that's that's amazing. You have a four hundred a year. And then also you have. The guy went back to back with rockets. Who obviously he's been waiting around a little bit longer to get inducted but again it's still got his time and like I said like the the the top of the class is elite. And as you go through the rest of the lead so I said it's unfortunate that it comes in I mean I guess because there's all this time just because of by the passing of time due to to wait this mission like then you how many years until you can officially induct so. It's a shame that comes during this time in which thanks kkob won't be there to give his speech because if I would have been a great one but It's still great. Honor Slow game moment and and Yeah it was just unfortunate. Also I guess. Nordisk is announced during the During during safe-space during final four weekend which. I guess he would have been this weekend I guess early April I've completely on the whole. The whole quarantine is dummy. And I- nonperishable Allan this but What was that my all my days and stuff which is hard to keep track of what anything is because it's all kind of run together seeing as most is pretty similar other guys if you're if you're working you're not working on the weekends so Saturday Sunday unless unless your job we work on the weekends. Wasn't your home the time it's like they all kind of feels the same so. I completely like even I knew it was like being able to complete forgotten that normally like we should have been getting ready for the National Championship. I guess what maybe would've would've been today tomorrow when our quest but today for you can you can guess it could have been would have been today national championships. Like I'm saying 'cause no sports my whole set. The time is thrown off. Because I don't really know when and where things should should or shouldn't be happening. Be So nice and so even though the the Ding wasn't announced the normal way was announced in a little bit of tragedy. Do the fact. Kobe Bryant is no longer with us with us Accolades of allies players are superb to say the least Imagine Tim Duncan five-time champion two time. Mvp fifteen time all star all NBA selection is nineteen years and I said one of the greatest spur ever One of the best players if not the best part is position so I mean he's these elite amounts easily. This wasn't hall of fame but I said that's there's not. Many people can stack up with his accolades. You Got Cagey who WanNa title won. Mvp and was on the All Star Team fifteen times nighttime all NBA Honoree issue concerns the word so you said another another all time great during his time period where she once again. If you have to be pretty good I wanted to go back. I would send the NBA basketball. Not The basketball hall of fame is the easiest Hoffy at into just because if you get a certain number of all star Game appearances you pretty much. Almost a lock to get in and not to say. That's a bad thing because there are a lot of good players that you've never made me more line have gotten in but I'm saying you look at these guys. These guys were all. I said. Elite elite top top players their positions during their careers. We're not anybody can make. That claim has gotten into the hall of fame lease and the Bass walloping so the AGR has accolades announcing benefit rundown Kobe's accolades but Duster reiterate them. He's a five time champion won. Mvp should one more but it's hard like his era was tough to VP's house when you got you got you got in Donkin UK g you got even ask you want a couple of shack Then you got you gotta deal with Lebron Hours one MVP. And they're just like there. There was going to get people. Don't want guy it's hard. It's hard to do now. Cosponsored The D. Way Aetna AIDS indeed rose Katie's so the world is is he wasn't get those like during the previous career is going up against shack on his own team. Tim Duncan in his own conference K. Gene is on God's for Awhile Steve Nash his own conference for a while. Dirk Won. Mvp In there too. It's like I mean years like all those all. Those guys are all time great players so it's laziness horror instant there's only so many MVP's to go out so again. He should have had more these to get the one eighteen time all star fifteen time all. Nba Selection twenty years. Not much more to say many people. I mean nothing. Matters is the greatest laker which again worth the debate. But you could argue that. There are two two out of the three argue argue. All three are the best player in the history of a franchise going in to offer sheet. Which is again is not something all. Nba Every Hoffman class inside. You got like ozzy tip. Dunk with the Spurs Cagey with the wolves. I don't you can. I don't know what other player House you win. Much there acedemic. No but it was haven't had that much because Six hundred twelve players migrate players coming through there so on until I guess until like cat or somebody else Come through and takes that thrown from him cages. The best buy my opinion. I'd have to think about it. Maybe a little bit more but for my money. He's the best guy the Nazi of Kobe. Who IS THE LAKERS? Have a long history of players extending back into the sixties may even before then but yeah I mean you could. Argue is the greatest. Laker and very few people would fight you on some people. Would some the older people would say? When does that happen? Where three of the best players. In the history of the franchise all enter. The Hoffman. Saint links have been you get down to two key to Miki catching 's who ranks first in the NBA. Wmba history steals Barium points and rebounds. You also won a national title at Tennessee in ninety eight to go along with like I said You. Ten time all star now thinking they kind of a incomes. Everything you've done in the history of your basketball weather collagen professional anarchists overseas get investment that on basketball hall of fame. Which again why. It makes it a little bit easier. You don't have to be. They don't really have a separation of the two of cocking pro but again she was a great great player Great Wnba player seems like an easy choice. There in addition Winning multi titles like. I said we can walk. She also won six hundred games or had twenty years at Baron wants Levin to a perfect forty no season in two thousand thirteen. I said easy easy choice. One of the one of the better. Wbz WNBA college women's NCA coaches of all time. Easy choice Is it even if you go into division two with Stevens won over a thousand games one championship in two thousand fourteen across forty years in Massachusetts? I mean not much argue there even like even even Sutton who is one out of ten division one coaches to win eight hundred games made a final four three times and was coach. Lead four different schools defined four CREIGHTON versus coach to lead foreign screen affordable schools to NCAA tournament and not the final sense of life forms of NCA tormenting Creighton. Arkansas Kentucky. Animal mistake so again like even though the top of his glasses vary is very very heavy. Even even as you get through the rest of the class. I mean against hall of fame. Should not be that impressed. But I'm using some of the best people that they are different. Fresh royals as a player coach. Now we're talking about inducted into this year's hall of fame which is not again kind of rare in and also exhibited Tommy John which was a good player in a five time all star as a as a plan and then one back to bacterium. She saw a lot of people say no Jordan Fair but I mean who at least that they didn't have Dennis Rodman on. Who's GONNA stop talking argue? Who's GonNa Stop Join? But I mean they had guys try to throw again. Who says that those those I think little chance that you could burn out or attack would happen with Brian just like I'm not saying he's not nothing. Amd as a freak athlete because you have his but Lebron rotate take time off throughout the season just to be able to maintain an plastic a high level during the files because it takes a lot out here to be in the finals every single year for what was eight or nine years. Was It from twenty eleven to lash last season with first year. He wasn't innocence since he wanted the heat. So that was what four years there? For years and years eight years straight gone through violence. Every single season playing almost eighty two games every single season as our. Do not that. They didn't do because he did did six times. So very impressed with again those that year engagement in baseball. I'm not wasn't doing anything but you give them a little break. So yeah you could argue that. See saying if you look at the the names are GonNa draw the headlines Are Koby. Tim Duncan and Cagey but if you look through this entire hall of fame class I mean it's top to bottom. That's great so greg rising all those guys into their families Abusing to see how they do it because again. Can you initially have gatherings of more than ten people? So how's that GonNa work because Ozzy Hall of Fame Index? Samways have more than that so no. It's not the August but if we're still not at the point where we can have this kind of gatherings cows. GonNa go is GonNa take place is going to be virtual. That'd be that'd be interesting to see how they would plant seeds way out and I'm thinking about it too much now but I am curious how that would go down if it were to go just going to go down but how would go down if it did when it does. Do the fact that it's not it's not gonna be that simple if we're still doing the current Ovalles's tuition but again shower told his players Arpey Kobe once again But yeah shower to those guys in this. This is one of the army. One of the better classes you e- You could say that basketball famous Adan years. Now get to knock him by his gotten in recently because everybody that got in is a great player coacher executive or what have you in their own right. So do they deserve it? You look at the names in the compliments of these guys. It's it's hard to argue against any of them getting Saddam into this hall of fame. Where some of the class? You could make an argument for guys this classes. There's no arguments made for literally any of them so grass all of them so when we come back we're GONNA discuss as we talked about the NBA wants to be at the forefront of trying to revitalize things or key contact flowing during this quarantine time and they come with a brand new idea for things that they could shoot with different players. So we're talking about in. That will be safe. So we'll talk about that Who could potentially be involved? How may work off on stuff right after break? So stay to check out the show that's built on the MMA from UFC. Two extreme cage fighting. 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And an be PA and ESPN about a competition of all among several players in isolation presumably using Houghton at home gyms that would include them competing shot for shot in additional plague in the traditional playground. Games said details Details including scheduled player involvement are still to finalise Odyssey and the lease shut down for a while. So they're trying to find different things and do different things in order to Keep fans interested which is outside. We talked about with the Touquet tournament that's gone down. We can though. There are a lot of blow outs. show that part of it was kind of interesting though not surprising because again. There's a lot of these guys. Just don't just have a lot of time to spend video games and such but said you see a lot in also with not not that. I was going to go into that too too much. But there's a lot of people taking them and not be picking the Lakers clippers picking the box picking the nats which is kind of what I've wondered what they do but also is not a surprise. And if you have if you've ever played if you're a big Gamer guy. New play a lot of like online. Whether it's like man touquet whoever most people pick the best teams and sash or the best players. Sino back in the early stages like this man. I used to use the ravens just because I like to use a quarterback scrambled house his season when a Long March. Two good It was I. It's kind of unfair when clearly there are none of those rules and this tournament because normally you're like all right like if you were playing back in dating like if you pick the warriors the heat back in the day no one knows playing issue just like why like. I'm not wasting my time playing. You know. In the video games things things can and will cheat begins to him. I guess everyone has no prior to be like. Hey look if you. This team's going to pick this team. And then you see kind of how. It's led to some blows. Could you have guys like Yonge of Gaza? Give Davis when Bron who can be on south on those greater that Greasy Pornchai. Can you drive at all times? If you mass guy. Right here. Masood's staffer Klay Thompson released. Whatever you get sixty points easy just because They're the three point. Shot is amazing. I'm sixty points you so Jade likes to the NBA. I give them credit for this. The fact that they've been willing to try and do different things in order to get fans in to keep fans interest Involved again like read. The fans are looking for something to watch something to do something to keep them entertained during this time or were there is not as there's there's there are things to watch if you want to go back and watch like just regular. Tv shows and stuff like in terms of sports. Now wait a whole lot going on when she watching a bunch of old games which is cool but steam allows forces that you don't know the ending. Yunos can happen same thing when you're watching TV show. You'll know what's going to happen. People are intrigued to do it. Why going back watching old shows like we re watching movies and stuff like that can be cool but again you know what happens so it may not be paying the third fourth fifth time Biden. Lot Sports is such a big thing. And KINDA was keeping Kim hunting companies. Afloat still is the fact. That people are still intrigued by the the aspect of uncertainty is the. I don't know how this game I think do but I don't so then that's why I wanNA watch to see how see how it goes plus actually betting and stuff Involved with that one but yeah so this is this is another idea. I thought it was interesting. Just because I am curious to see what players we wanted to get. Involved in like. Basically Katie was the highest profile guy. He evolved into K. Thing like it's not a lot younger guys. You got I'm the oldest the pilot Patrick. Beverley maybe book at number. He's been around for a little bit but probably like Patrick Beverley. Mostly guys like you know maybe Katyusha yelling. Trae young a younger guy. Devon Booker Deandre and even out of John was not that old. He's like only like mid twenties. I think was kind of nuts Bonuses and that Old Margaret Puerto Juniors not allow. These guys are younger. Guys said okay. It makes sense that they'd be involved in a in a two can video game Tournament you will but when you're talking about now are more horse which is more bachelor which I mean anybody can do image to see who they could get involved. Kinda thought thought it's all summer floating around. They're trying to get lake. So price could be like crispell. Ross and like some other guys though. You'll be my exit for. I want to see but it's interesting to see who would want to get involved with a lot of this a lot of issues allow. These things is the people. Don't want to embarrassed. So you'RE GONNA be out there again. Their Games are nationally televised on on televised and people and see them in ridicule and when they do bad which is what social media shoes for the situation. Situation like this Having to be willing to go out there and potentially get exposed. We'll get embarrassed into in a competition like this because we all know at the end of day. Athletes are competitive. I mean a lot of people are competitive but I was. Ethics are different kinds of level. So many people just be willing to be idea. Nam. I'm cool with Risk losing in front of how many people tuned into washes. I mean that's the reason why now exactly the same but also the reason why I don't think Lebron's ever done dot com. That's because it just feels good too much pressure for him to be the greatest thing ever the now if he doesn't live up to that or he loses now could be staying on his legacy whatever's because he could've done only younger and no one would care but after he reached rb best player in. League status are now you kinda risking now? It's almost too hard to get involved. So that's why he's never done. We am censured to see Who would do it? Though I know people I wanNA see evolved. I'd want to see if I get involved in that. I would want to say how work lag. Adjust IS ADJUST JUMPERS IS. The dunks came can dunks being all like they like. What is I think that matters because if you have a guy say like exactly for example who was in through point on disappear but nause could very easily been dot com this heat? I can shoot. I mean Ozzy. He's in is e staffer. Trae young or Dane necessary now. That was a good three point. Shooter was shooting like high thirty percent this year. So you get nine terrible shooter. But he has no. He's an elite elite dunker and not even just in Game Two K. Cornerman These in Dunker. Yeah I'm trying to think of what is what is three pointer was this year. Thirty eight percents again. Thirty seven point thirty seven point five percent for I three thousand five for his career again. Not a bad three point zero but like. I said we mentioned you. Delete docker so somebody like him. While you know Norman Horse like you said not shots and stuff but just came up like is there any rule disallowing him from breaking out some of his dunk contest? Stuff in the now he could eat again. You know the horses not like you have to do something new. Every time the he didn't each competition you could bring out the same down so he knows he can do. Most people can and he would win like that. So just see what the condos stipulation or if there would be any solution in terms of that or we're just going to do whatever but I'm saying that's case and I would wanna see guys like him or maybe pick him to win. Well if you take him about jump shooting and kind of dribble moves stuff that involved. Now you're thinking about like I've Steph be involved. Assuming he's healthy now I'd WanNa see like a tight won't even I would. What does he carry though? I don't know if he's healthy at the moment on Wednesday. That could trae young. I want to see maybe even a dame Guys in that realm does because those guys are guys that are great shooters goes set is like I mean. I wouldn't wanNA see no him. I WANNA see Klay Thompson. Because he's a great like catch Shugaba. He's not as good. He's not a good not that he's a bad off the dribble shooter. But like these guys are used to taking making tough off the dribble shots. And that's not really Klay Thompson game so that's GonNa see because that's how would provide for more. Entertainment is seeing guys. Do like these weird awkward fadeaways or different types of shots off the dribble potentially in which again is not really Klay Thompson game. So even though he's a great shooter somebody I would want to be involved in horse competition personal not necessarily up to me but see. I'm talking about I WANNA see. Steffi's healthy carry five not going to be healthy so don't involve him give me trae young. Give me give. It sounds a little aggressive but like to see you dame and then even with that I could see I can tell you I fall on their again. He's the three the three point staff and that staff is no but he's a guy that can that has has has has made a living making ready awkward shots announced. He's not that big so we have to be able to shoot over. Things issued a weird angles difficult angles nor to get a shot to go over a bigger guys. I won't be mad. The the Russ One. That's all rumor floating down on Zeros. Unless unless you'RE GONNA BE DUNKIN. Hold on like what? He's dumped shout. Not Maybe it's better when Nolan's gardening in pressure but his jump shot and I like that releasing the Games for me to be like. Yeah not only nothing pass so yeah. I'm just so far we're GONNA do off the Bat. Not I guess because like us going to be one horse going to do is going to be as it gonNA be like two K. Thing where it's like. Continue a big twin. We've have you get eight? Ten twelve guys. How many I guess I guess would get eight sixteen a lot. Ziegler e guys would you break it down like that or the just like us gifts before guys livestream at the one time and then like. Is it done when you get like inaugural before interesting to see? I'm curious how that would work but again Housi- if they were to go through with this the more detail we'd find more details from there but I mean why things us up I watch it. I wanted I only had one of those in like Ba flicked the pre the pre league. Nba All star. Saturday stuff. I could just want your horse back in the day in back in the day I mean like four or five years ago now like in the nineties just wanted to have one of those like in the early two thousand ten. I couldn't I could be making it but somebody I feel that was a thing and I didn't just like dream night. They've done it before now. It's everybody who's played basketball is played horse at some point in their life so I mentioned ago but yeah I mean most anything if if it's if it's on TV to wash on the two K. thing though love was gonna blow out so then washed all things but I always tune in for a little bit soc- and hopefully as the competition continues on the game to get mad because people will be better but we'll see how echoes me like. I said it's sports. If it's televised people will not be ops. He's not going to be the numbers that the playoff games would be doing or would be getting ready to do at this time. But it's content. It's it's basketball. People will be tuned in and we'll watch no matter what so understood to see how that goes off. And if they do go through fat Norfolk just like I said he could just be a rumor that the just kind of floated out there. But I want to see if they got through with that but yeah so Coming up next. We're going to transition over shoe the NFL side of things and talk about a certain player. Who's draft stock? I mentioned could take a hit due to his whole Rauner situation and may very well be doing that. And I mean you might have an idea who it is but We'll talk about who this person is in why I think it's happening and I think it should or should not be acting so we'll discuss all that after this break right there. Are you looking for help for your fantasy football team check out the GSM see fantasy football podcast? Get today's best advice on who to start who to sit even who. You should draft from sleeper picks. A RED HOT LINEUPS. They got it all covered for you that GMC PODCAST DOT COM backslash. Fantasy Dash Football Dash podcasts. We'll cover traditional leagues dynasty few PR even IBP. When you need fantasy help? There's just one showed up. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Gs MC PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. The S so much to lower was a player who could have been hurt the most due to this pandemic due to the fact that he can't really show teams how healthy he is. I mean he can he can talk with them via skype or facetime. Whatever mode of communication at US he can run through drills and things but they can't have he can even get like check by his own doctor but they can have their own team do their again. You can go to one doctor. They described prescription. Get a second opinion and then and then after they see your feels different. So it's not every doctor seizing the same which is got interesting but National Swimming Nothing. That happens so because of that. Teams may be worrisome of drafting him and that appears to be what is happening To talk about Losses Clean Europos would again IGA. If you Google you can find this anywhere. But to a tongue in Jaffa could take a hit with sports at a standstill metal report that multiple teams now for just Herbert because of injuries in the unknown according to NFL draft in this Matt Miller the unknowns Miller is referencing pertained to twenty two year. Old Tunnel was health and long-term durability the Auburn quarterback entered the twenty seasons. Front wanted to be on the number one overall pick but suffering devastating hip injury against Mississippi State Sixteenth. That knocked him out of the season. Optum out for the season and finished with a little under three thousand passing yards three touchdowns three and a half One point four percent to nine games organs Herbert finished with three all almost thirty. Five hundred yards thirty. Two thousand six interceptions and a sixty six point. Increase percentage in including the bull by fourteen. Fifteen games around there. Don't be surprised if Jesse Hubbard is quarterback picked because there are no questions about injuries when it comes to the valuation. Mother sat on Monday near Tongue by Lower Noel L. S. Your job participated in combine drills. Borough means the On impeachable number one peg whom making that pick? We'll discuss And segment or to Meaning people won't pick with no serious injury concerns to smerch his record tying while I did receive overwhelmingly positive reports from teams who were able to evaluate his medical staff at the NFL. Combine and look impressively strong in via's posted to social media here. Clamor shook his. He hit skills improve improvement for scouts. As Pro Day on April ninth which I mean. Parliament may stuff a workout. But I don't think the Prodi's GonNa happen understand now with measures. Being taken to enforce urgency teams will have to make a decision on without assessing him in person before the draft is coming month. And normally you. You could honestly make argument to it. Should be the number two overall pick. Maybe even number one high level team executive told Miller on Sunday but because you're taking their word for when it comes to his medicals at this point in time team hesitant or just going to be hesitant. Basically and Herbert is often without fault at Into Season Miller noted some concerns about his mental illness for twenty nine year old who may lack the presence and gregarious nature necessary for franchise quarterback in the present era worried by leadership in in me being acquired guy. Herbert said back in January. But I would say I'm not too quiet. Talk you're off so there are things I want to be transparent with and give a good presentation of myself. So yeah that is interesting because there is not. There are very few people if any at all who would say for certain that on the field to Is Worse than her house. This from another article is from Saturday. Down South Again using Matt Millers Memo's analysis he said Nice of you already talked about. He could potentially be Eventually the third taking I mean apparently on some boys he has them speed model down at the AG Q. Before I step behind Jordan love but that's eight which is even more absurd and I think all has to do a very some things and not all injuries. One teams source explained that they have not to a for an award supporting cast. That often saved him when plays broke down. Another mentioned poor interviews aboard work during Johnny Combine meetings which again is whatever tubes accuracy vision exceptional very good prospect started trades. But it's worth noting that no one ever not. Everyone sees him as a lock to send quarterback drafted. I mean but also to be fair Matt Mood also say that he From ahead of two in April nineteen so that's not true at all and no one would believe that but yeah it's just one of those things where it's just like. Are you take the better player with injury history or the guy who probably at least a little bit worse bought is healthy and again that's healthy in college people? A lot of people are healthy in college and get to the League and then they have different injuries and a lot of people also got injured in college. Also get injured in the League so he had disliked injuries again. As I've discussed on podcasts are unpredictable in my opinion there. There's there's very few things having time to injury as we very few evening. For God's Quantico Injury Prone visit me he's GonNa get injured in the exact same way all the time or guests like I said if he does. And that's what referred to the injured product for guys just give nicked up in different ways lots of times. I wouldn't miss it. Argues injury opponent? Argue he's unlucky as he ended up being in some people get hit a certain way and they get injured. Something we hit an exact same way and they're perfectly fine. You see that all the time throughout Dame's you'll see you guys take a nasty hit or what s hitter. They be hit wrong and get rolled up on or plant that lay. It looks bad and then they walk off the field. That'd be fine or maybe not even necessarily finally sears injury. They might have something that you can deal within a couple weeks as opposed to having a season ending injury some Santa's all it's all relative in all kinds of luck says the things they do if I'm GM do I do. I risk taking the quote unquote worst prospect. Because I'm concerned about health as fair question asked and I said that's what I thought was going to be an issue with the no in person with the with the Rono situation just because people wouldn't be able to answer questions in person and very who teams going to rest inverview executives. Gm's are going to risk their job over. God whose medical evaluation aid there has to get from a third party which I again as the side down South Oracle mentioned and that's fair that that part is a fair point. You WanNA see your team. Doctors look at him not the team doctors from a different from different team literally. You'll want that. You want to have your own guys because these guys that are gonna be dealing with them so you want you want them to have an idea of what to expect they say now. I don't think this is gonNA ever be right. Then you know touch my now. It's like I said different. Everybody Jack Warden looks a little bit different year. There's different factors. I go in different medicals. Go into some people who maybe medical right flag. Somebody's board may not be medical different versus ward. And that's how they end up different payers end up on different teams but yes just the issue that are worried about with two and like I said it's you could make a legitimate argument that he should go number one if he wasn't half if he wasn't hurt but again he is so that you can't you can't take that away and that's kind of issue though. I will say I guess back to the Europe. First article from guesses a few days ago but the supporting cast situation while fair. You could also apply to Joe Borough so is again madman. Good players around. You can elevate an article right to a good quarterback. Yes but at the same time you have to make all those allies. You'RE GONNA say if you didn't as a person of watched more Oregon. Football Interpol showed of this season Gordon receivers not good their office. Not really all that dynamic in creative in my opinion like they're passing in the running game is is excellent clambered into law that they're passing game was like pretty in this me just walked in the game lousy. I don't watch like twenty two or their coaches home or whatever is watching. The Games didn't seem too much creativity and they seemed may times to be willing to take the ball out of her hands. Make make sympathizers does was letting him go out there and try to win the game which is an interesting thing. Come in college they have. His team wasn't even ruling to risk having him lose the game. 'cause they were just like there's GonNa run the ball and make sure throws or not be aggressively in the Games. That seems like it would be indictment at least a little bit on the quarterback. No maybe just incompetent coaching from their aspect. But you could also argue that it's it's It has something to say about the quarterback in him. Not being a guy who's Being God who they could handle having the entire thing on shoulders though obscene you wash rose bowl game they. You are the more running in the normally. Have but again. He's had his throughout the season he had there. Throughout his career you think last year Stanford Games good example of that where they had a big lead and they blew it because they got the two conservative and a part of that was because they didn't they didn't want to have justin her Raton while whatever reason that is not the coach. But I'm saying that should say something about that not so that's not a thing with two percent though again. They have better receiver saw. I'm saying it's hard to sort of generally how does a guy what disappointing gases toogood versus? Foreign guests isn't good enough many quarterback that play on teams whose forecast going to be what they're going to have the NFL level we are. You could also argue that the two headed Alabama was not going to be good as wherever he goes eventually obviously if he goes to the chargers. Thank you now to Mike Williams up there with what he had in Jerry. Judy of Rog. Zang Waddell DEVANTE SMITH LIKE. That's up there with them but again if you has sent him to the dolphins all about Parker so they said environments and circumstances and situations matter so like I wouldn't be shocked if he's the second quarterback but also be shocked the fee of you in the right scenario say like San Diego Oh Wow San Diego. La My bad charges. That may be listening to this If he's in L. A. With key non with Mike Wounds with this out of bringing another The chuttha find third receiver with Hunter Henry when he's healthy Allston Echo. Who's a great running back out of the Backfield They have weapons. Which are gonna be that much worse than what to add at Alabama. So maybe it'll be fine there but again if he goes through the dolphins than they really just want. Parkin over running my drafting. Everybody usually chemically. I think four pixels draft so soon matter but I I would be worrisome of taking a lesser quarterback just because of injuries. They may correct itself. I know you guys like Matt. Stafford was injured a lot earlier career then up until this year had gone to many games never got hurt or hang her ears. See you know you may be injury prone early there just may just you may get lucky from there and then you don't get injuries because I mean both of they know yet some ankles and me but that hip raindrops a real freak thing and that's not commenting that happens. I guess hip normally popping out of place or whatever. So what I'd be worried. Yes would that info four hundred taken inferior potentially inferior player on if I go that far but again I'm not a GM so he zone though again not every damn nails every pick so But Yeah No. That's just my opinion. I don't know I know for certain. In my opinion I would take two or doesn't Herbert Office Zeke. One Hundred Times at one hundred but all things are equal so. I'm not surprised that people are afraid to now. La doesn't ladies episode. I don't know how you good unless you think you have the greatest coaching staff and quarterback Oceana world to coach him up because again he's Prospect I know some people try to compare with them homes. I mean mahomes but he got crazy numbers at Texas tech even though again. He wasn't winning them. Games with the numbers were absurd During levels not doing that so. I don't know if I'd go that for with comparison but I mean we'll see we will see That if that doesn't happen if it does all right more motivation for two. I guess whenever he gets back out there but like I said I might taking the inferior player if all things are equal but again most. Gm So hard for me to judge the Yesalis you'd have to To shame hopefully can say out the guy's career again in college. He was great. Tau should be very town on the NFL. If can stay healthy but again he recipe is available you so we'll see about that and seeing avail the availability. There's a big time for agent or one of the big reasons that the market still out there as discussed now a new team that competitive me potentially be in pursuit of his talents. So talk about nine again. That player in who this new mystery non misery team but this new team is like a common charter soup him at the last moment and how it may work so you talk about where after this break stay tuned. 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You're only free agent but so many times your career so you want to try and make them in your and NFL while Sanitary National Football League also plans for not for long so when he as much money as you can while you're still healthy and able to play it off and stuff so with that being said it makes sense as to why remember award for the most money. I can't get such of I've been in the league. What kind of leave five years now? So this was all the franchise tag lashes. So here's what I'm taking a big drop off money but you also has to make sure he can still get signed by someone and that's kind of been his issue now with number may have well been too high. That's kind of why he stuck in a moment but does meat in the souders and there is a new suitor that is looking for his services and that is none other than the Cleveland browns. Apparently they are collecting everybody. I mean because I worked so well for them last year. Unfortunately maybe this'll be. Maybe it'll be a little bit better Me As a per is being Jamie fouls from CBS sports The browns have shown interesting. Cloudy and some people around the league. Believe CLEVELAND DOT closer with cloudy than the other suitors whether this give Cleveland's attract to laying services remains to be seen but the Brown certainly checked in on the defensive ends asking price. Obviously Cleveland already has myles Garrett and it'd be very defensive and inside agent cleared one to two year deal earlier this week so. The browns acting need of a pass rusher. Garrett had ten cents an impressive before he got suspended for six games Damato nineteen season but Vernon only had three point five and twenty five pressure. Ten Games and Kimmy can't group and can be cut to create fifteen point five million casper. He's a newest. I knew his contract from the Johns was big. I didn't know the save. That more space for him. So in theory just got him. He's not GonNa pay that much for a guy to bench to cut him embracing cloudy. Who's younger and better? So there is that though again sack numbers low out of that numbers are. There's any as thirty six over the course of his career and seeing all using the League. Sixty thousand five six seasons equal. Beckett's two hundred fifty two pressures in three time. Pro Bowler is also created out exceptionally well via pro football focus. Few follow stuff. There are little iffy depending on. What the talk about so I understand that not. Everybody is a big supporter of the all the analytical stuff unprofitable foggy but I mean they they nest generally speaking they do good work and people pay attention to their grades himself to a degree In his past season he's while especially over the last two years with them. He finished with thirty. One tackles three sacks four forced. Fumbles thirteen records. And forty-seven I in thirteen games. This past season rose hampered with from Georgia to you at the core muscle injury which could explain why second was below. He's also had some injuries career. So that's another reason. Why people a little bit worrisome? Perry had surgery on the injury not apparent. He had surgery on the injury. Alrighty so which affect him for twenty twenty season soon we even have it but if we do it should be fine Carney reportedly lowered his asking price from north of twenty million per season to seventeen eighteen million dollar range which may have been lie on. Gluhwein now is entered the mix. Titans seahawks are also interested in cloudy. His is believed even though Seattle after maneuver in Casper's around 'cause they currently only have a little under fifteen million per over the cap so you could just structure it where he's not getting paid that much this this coming season but I don't know what to see how talented workout leaving most in the NFL veteran who knows most Caspian fell. Fourteen million and camera create much more by parting ways with Ozzy as we have mentioned so sounding society. Cloudy isn't really a big issue and we'll have to see if they get the job done is to not have to look that up Because I didn't know that WOMAN OSCE. They haven't really spent that much in free agency so that would make sense by November them. The most left Canada de Novo the funny thing the chiefs that she's they alike will before they restrict they did some restructuring or whatever they had they had like what was it like a one hundred seventy seven dollars nine hundred seven thousand three hundred seventy seven dollars which is kind of absurd then. We've that was true. You now was I just. I just saw the tweet from field. Yates we gotTA fight His Agassi's true. Now I did not know that. Okay I see so. They guess is March theories. This from a couple of weeks is a little while ago. So maybe missing adjustments made but Houston was at one with almost with little over forty. Nine million jets were to a forty five. Though I notice on Perelman's since March thirtieth thank or somewhere around that time. So maybe it's the dipped up damages against from field. Yates and Cleveland was third. Forty three point seven. So maybe have the most. Now but yeah. I mean even with even if the domino's it's only atop the league's has the caste based so again. The money's not the issue but us into interesting fit for them because obviously being outs outside of Miles Alpha myles Garrett should help out cloudy and Ozzy would have should have their pass rush. What was eight of the same thing about being opt to? Jj Watt though again J. D. wobbles in the line of last couple of years do injured or when they played. It's not numbers. Have Been Amazing when they've been together. I mean I know we've talked about this in the past. I think the most he's ever had in the season was I think it was only like nine and things that double digit sacks in the season we will. I will double check this regard because again. Try to accurate as possible on these things be. Yeah so this is high. Career high was in twenty seventeen and he had nine and a half sacks so again and what twenty seventeen? I'm Jay I think he was still. Did he blow up that much? He don't see his name so that could probably be the issue so yeah so the one on Olympic. Update your was. Let's see one. He was actually planning reas our noses. He's never had w decides playing opposite. Oh you're twenty sixteen in two thousand seventeen completed a combined games so in twenty eight sixteen cardiac number nine does not bad radio now. Twenty Million Dollars Worth Twenty fifteen. He Played Sixteen Games. Two Thousand Fourteen Sixteen Games and in those two seasons he had twenty point five hundred. Seventeen point five collectively. I mean respectively while again clowney had in two thousand fifteen twenty sixteen. He had all of four and a half and six so I granted if one guys get note. Saxar for in touch with. We'll be by W Saxon the same team. But I mean I guess you would think he's getting mostly jaywalks getting attention. So as much as the idea playing airing him with county sounds intrigue. Should be like. Oh this should work really well together. seeing as he didn't he hasn't put big numbers opposite. Jj Watt whose argue with the best. The Edge rusher of his generation him and von Miller real. You're probably the two best of their time period. Then it's hard and so he he'll be great at anybody and I'll see as we saw with Vernon though again I think better than Louis Vernon but Verno at three and a half sacks opposite Garret this past year through ten games I think about them. I've only seasonally young people ten games. Gary didn't really have a great year opposite him so again. If you have guys going all the pressure is not not like adoptive. Our situation where Donald Fowler was on the same line is Aaron. Donald and for he was great. Lastly trading for him in twenty eighteen in the House has passed year. He was he had seen again. I think had a career high in sacks so all right cool you have long again. All the attention of the guy should be able to to eat and Connie hasn't eating it so I mean again the give the browns credit for being willing to trust although this different Group there are thing. Yeah burs with the Eagles Asher and I know they were trying to trade for Clowney side. I don't imagine you would like them. Especially if if the if if it was reported. The Eagles were in trading for him. Though we don't know exactly how in they were but that is to be believed then it would make sense that the browns would then try to trade for army tried to sign him because again we have people that were from the step for an office. So That's interesting decided. Lisa's see if that goes through overexcited about the fit. Just because again. Parliamentary Bene- good. Great Pass rusher. Doug and you can move Ronald. But he's not indefinite defense worse improvement over Vernon so just that alone is good and they can save all that money that they're spending on him and give it a taxi ride on lose all that much terms of cap space not stuff but at the same time. It's not like again it's not. You're not paying twenty million dollars to guy who's never had doubted Saxon skurdal. Insects aren't the be all and all his mortar is more defense than just sacks like quarterback had scored by pressures. How how will you stop the Ronald Stuff? So I know he's good at those other things but again I would like to see my guys get home at least a little bit because walkway records in pressures and hurries can affect the quarterback. Obviously very few if you sack accord after there was some sort of seen. I know these numbers I know usually when you talk quarterback on drive that drives typically doesn't really go that well for the for the opposite again once you sack that that that puts the Like five between five and ten years post office way behind April so maybe better than pressure guy maybe is maybe a guy he misses throws a pass or isn't able to get the ball out there so they don't lose any other gaining yards. But if you've got now you move them back. And then when they have the punt now they're now you can get better for your position so. I am curious to see the different effects of that kind of thing but like I said of would be an upgrade for the browns so soon after like I would be wary some of paying a guy to dollars. That's never as twenty million a year on average this narrow had wd. Zack's person but again I guess unless analogy in these guys are more than welcome. Do what they want. I said I'm surprised. Sa- say as jobs shocked and surprised at the same time but I'm surprised that he hasn't been signed yet and I think it's coming soon but this one was the rush off disappointing. Why would we if I'm him? Or if I'm the teams I would. I be INNOVA CARI TO SIGN. Because he has not going anywhere unless you just wearily afraid that someone else will go out and ghetto which again you could have been before the end. It's been a free agency started so you think that we've got to deal done already? And no one has so interested as to why. But Hey maybe it'll be coming this week. We shall see. Ya after this last break. We're GONNA come back and discuss As we talked about the dolphins have a lot of graphics and with the Japanese they stay put nor regular thing vic people selected on where they're slotted. I should say or they can make a drastic move and trade up. And there's rumblings out there rooms out they killed that there that could very well be the plan at the bengals oblige. So we'll talk about that talk about if the move makes sense and also talked about if a track for the males. Wong's tack all sides of this or after the break stay right there checkout still build around the women who have see Invicta F. C. n. One Championship. We got the fights covered. It's the Golden State media concept's women's MMA podcast. The latest news of upcoming flights discussions of previous matches join us as we talked to in about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future when it's the women's fight game you know where to listen to the golden state media concepts women's M may podcast so the dolphins. They are team with like. I said I believe fourteen draft picks in this draft alone. Okay so mrs from my from Dolphins website as of March eleventh. They have three. I two seconds. A third of fourth three fifths. Six and three sevens. This year said his three four seven eight nine. Ten Thirteen says fourteen so three to five six seven ten. Yes forty miles Fourteen picks in this draft alone now. Is it realistic? They will make all selections probably not because that's just a lot to have to a lot to after the bachelor picks to make by wanting fourteen less. You'RE NOT GONNA add fourteen guys here at fourteen rookie studio. Let's just that's unrealistic more. But that doesn't mean that they can't use them for other purposes was purposes. Could be the trade up. I mean nine. Eleven rumors floating around that they may try to three the lines at twitter to get because I know charges may potentially be nothing in quarterback though they have said a menu for occasions toddler given tyrod Taylor a chance again school. Could we may very well that they may not be lying in that they may be given Taranto James. That doesn't mean they may not bring some competition for. We haven't signed like a real other backup. I believe they drafted ear the draft or signed as a free agent Eastern. Stick from North Dakota state last year So they have. I think they think he saw roster signing team people going outside km wherever they haven't done it yet so that means that they're probably gonNA bring another quarterback at some point in that quarter of May very well be in the first round the draft so people have talked about the dolphins trading up to three to get ahead of the charters because two out of watching trading back into. Because I mean you're not gonNA pass the chance to take Jason. I believe was he. What happens to draft is crazy We used to pretend to stand up to three to worry about because you charge two three or four. Whom pants attractive three or four to get To our in Harvard. Whatever quarterback on his left after burroughs eventually again assuming the bengals take Joe Borough but along with that if they didn't want to do that then they could or if they want if they wanted to trade up for like three he's not going to cut it because we want to borrow like after doing that evaluation on who occupy may be hurt by the medicals and dolphins may view that the same way at the urban adding of this guy's worth treating up for. Maybe there'd be willing to Try to see big a trade up to number one for for Jober now I'm not saying that the the bengals agree with that but I mean when you have three first round picks and two second round picks it makes things more interesting in terms of potentially being able to do that the first next year two along with their own. So they have been. I think they might have had in my nature. Second Round pick to abate. They have other ammunition to use if they so choose the not mean for. That's wrong but it did the first graphic yikes. I forgot about that no running. I know we discuss bill. O'brien and is interesting history of treves. But I forgot that they gave him the second round. Pick to goodness Okay so yes and then we have to I into connection. That's to add to whatever other Pixar. They may not however they may not get between now and then. So if I'm the bengals. Do I risk missing out on my potential quarterback of the ends at the quarterback position to fill the holes on my team because they have other holes on their team? The felt they needed their receiver? Which could very well be a first segments. Even again they brought. Aj Greenback Sanchis Tag. But he's been injured. Missed all this vast season. He's going back on if he's on saves one year deal. You don't really know how much longer is going to be there. Things don't go well this year. Things don't look to improve. He may very well be on the way out. I mean they have to have a board but you need somebody else. John Ross while he looked good around the year got hurt again which is not uncommon for him unfortunately got figure out that they need to tighten can get to make improvements on our offer line Nantucket defense at almost every level except for safety. Jessie Bates I believe is name. And I think a little corner William Jackson the third I believe so outside of those two they bob. We need help at all three levels in terms of even at the line the lake you Atkins is getting older. And I've seen a car cost on. That was so there. He's been on the Bengals for he's still there but he's getting older. He's thirty one NEGOTI. begins in older Who's GonNa have Carl Lawson? I believe the on baggage. If he's still there he's younger guy but it only had five sacks last year so again not exactly sacks beyond endel but again you like you're GONNA have one. We only played in twelve games only started two of them. So it's not. He's necessarily an answer for the team. I mean they're they're a team as a whole kind of struggled from defensive aspect They're the most sacks anybody had was caused on locker at nine and Sam Hubbard at a eight and a half. Pm They need to pass rush out From a tackling standpoint They had like the nick vigil. The base was in the Nick. Visual played a lot. He's our he's all right. Germain Pratt played a lot. He was all right Yearly new need help with the linebacker position need help on secondary as I said The only Darius Guide embarrassed Phillips and use it for picks but outside of that they had debates at three and everyone else had worn narrowly allegra. Great Pass defense dissipates Up At eight this guy again at seven. He was good Oh Jackson in the third season as I thought he did. So maybe Darius Phillips GonNa be answer there for the bengals interesting did not know that we assayed. They've got any help the core mission. Nice then you have a busy all three levels. I mean the other Safety Shaun Williams I know he was. He was off for them this past year but again he's another getting a little bit older. That was that's the thing they because they have from the old they Marvin Lewis regime. They had a bunch of older guys. He's on I mean twenty dollars off that old but again it's getting a little bit older. You look to the future as they need to give some old guy and then get to begin to find replacements for like the dunlap's digital Atkins of the world the John Williams of the world would probably getting a third linebacker or maybe even the second line back because again. Most juicy won't be too long beds at this point Probably another corner depend on. If they're the stairs felt God Phillips Causes. The answer but you might be maybe get some competition for Jackson Williams. Ask as I said I thought he would better than he did. This past year At least I terms of this over LEX. Pf for grades or something like that were yet so they need help there so they could their team that could use with the multiple. They could use extra X. Sound like if I'm them do you do you take the number five eighteen. Maybe their second cleave by one three and I four picks this year on that. You're going to get all three. I probably a lot. You say you get there. I have two seconds so the first the five eighteen Or the other numbers. Let me go back so five. Eighteen year five eighteen renowned fifty-six probably thirty. I am thirty nine because you have twenty six. The dolphins would one allegra. I were a second next year. Won The Texans the extra first or second lecture so four picks a trade up. Maybe you might might have more Media would you do that if you're the Bangles? I don't I guess we're tricky because you say that the correlation is the hardest to fund. And is he is kind of the ones that computer team. So you think that that'd be the one you'd want to adapt. You can kind of figure things out from there but It's just risky. Because you look at the teams traded back in recent history suggests the last couple of years already threes. So you have the the Rams and Eagles Twenty Sixteen lurambi up their first two seconds and third in two thousand sixteen along with the first and third and twenty seventeenth. Titans who sent back and forth in a six grand. Jared Goff I mean Ozzy took. It took the titans a few years to find their place in that quarterback Ezell. Dan Mariota didn't work out with him had to go to Tannehill. The Eagles surrendered eight. Seventy seven and one hundred was the first round pick in two thousand seventeen in second round. Pick in twenty eighteen to the browns to guard once. The winds added ammunition even added twenty seventeen criminal fifth. See how it worked out From It worked out to a degree for US. Because as he did win the super will be at the position and the browns still trying to figure things out mostly. God they picked during that time on even really on the team or they're all human every as good So there is that north of they took Baker who you probably say at this point in time right now carson's rather than Baker so maybe it wasn't worth it Look at in twenty seventeen year the Texans involvement three team trade graduates. They traded for the The A I don't know 'cause it's something problem treating shape I was involved in the Browns Eagles. Pick trade from the year before the regards they traded up game. I and I the twenty first and twenty eighteen for or against this offers and then a first eighteen for to get watson the chiefs surrendered to I like the one in two thousand seventeen swap in wanting twenty eighteen as those third round. Pick to move up to ten to grab homes. Obviously that paid off paid off for both of those teams and then the bills in twenty twenty seventeen and also Michigan risky. The the bear traded up. Give the third third the to ramble picks one twenty eight hundred four hundred section to move up one spot which is kind of absurd and then you have the year after that the Ravens traded of Second Fourth along with the twenty second to get the thirty second overall pick from the eagles to draft the Mar- DAX network mangled cars. Give fifteen seventy nine and one. Fifty two to the Oakland Raiders for the ten selection draft. Josh Rosen. The bill sent their own twenty eighteen. I to move up seven tenths over also giving them to second round picks and getting like the last big draft in the bucks. The jets sent six three seven four nine posted. Twenty thousand second round or two the colts for the third. So I think colds like Quinn Nelson epoch. So that wouldn't work everyone wants. You could say the team the train back. Deanery get all that much out of trading back the US drive the Dow Scouter who paired with Urge you can say is the best tight end tandem in the league. But I'm saying it's from recent history trading back doesn't seem to be. That worthwhile to me seems a tree by. Don't get like Billy Guy Good Hall. They don't like mostly teams are bad for reasons. They may not maybe they. Don't you pick the right people? The fits Armata whatever whatever so usually the trade backs. Don't normally workout sitting treating a quarterback so I mean gerege office will. He was not that good this past year we went to Super Bowl. Eagles want us to bowl and partly because Carson wentz Shawn Watson has been great Mahomes obviously we're in. That GOES WITHOUT SAYING MR RISKY. Very shaky clearly So there's that drawdown of the bills get to the playoffs. Marjasin heavy rose now on the garden so that was a mistake and then Sam Darnold was awesome. You have capacity. Be Take us out to the whole model situation. Threw him off. But if you look at the hit rate on the guys trade up as both teams that trade back has been a lot higher so from the dolphins doing this but from the bengals. That's my guy. Especially when most of the other teams didn't need a quarterback when they were in these files he didn't really like they had a quarterback they from the browns. They said they didn't think want's GonNa be goods that art. We'll we don't want himself and that may or may not have been but they didn't want him to say all right. Okay which way back but generally speaking the team don't WanNA core bayswater trading back while the Bengals in very unsound they don't want to. They want to move off me and you dawn. So you need a quarterback. It would make any sense if I'm the bengals even if you get you. Get three of the dolphins top four picks plus a fresh round next year and again moving back to five. So you Dick. A Soviet quarterback there at five. If you don't mind if these ray if the if all otherwise pretty close in the top three or four quarterbacks for you but if you're if you want Joe Borough then just take him. That's kind of hours of you. If you have a quarterback that you like do whatever Nelson and off effective for file you want Joe Back. The also would train as many pictures as was necessary. Because again. If you have a great quarterback Deccan Kinda cover up in many cases the other holes you may have especially when you have a quarterback on a rookie deal for four to five years while get me Sonoma. Three thirty lead Muslims. So for for three years. You have a rookie quarterback and you can go out and sign be named or trade for big names or whatever if you have the caps as to do it because you're not paying your quarterback that much off the dolphins only having issues with cafes for them so yes like. Hey if I'm dolphins I would do whatever trade up on the bengals. I wouldn't trade back again if I need a quarterback. I'm taking the quarterback. I'm not being like oh I'll just take two or doesn't Herbert whoever's available at five now that's a bad idea. Allegra quarterback get them. I mean Take him and the same safe. Dolphins quarterback trade out do whatever you trade off form so I mentioned to see how that will play out because from both sides I can see why the banks backers who adopt one trade up. I could see why also to want to stay. Put 'cause they need a quarterback as discussed MRS from Fan. Sided this article. I'm from last year before like opposite Colin Murray and draft. What were you see what those added include any traits that which? I don't remember if there were on top of my head with it could have been we have so this is just from three par to that so you see have for the team that have traded up there. They've been more sesame team that traded back in terms of overall success. Like warm in the US about this may traded back but like the Oakland. I really box acetate tactical inside. Tom Brady but The took them a couple of years. James Coastguard Wayne Nelson. So that that's been hit for them so no no. She's there with them with the tree back than jets. The niners got bogaerts Salmon. Thomas hasn't risen. Wasn't the reason why it's just put it that way. And then the bills traded back on the next year but I mean passionate homes could have been better could have been worse. We don't really know how much of it is just amateurs Andy Retail and then at whatever trade involving the browns. The Dolphins for Deshaun Watson. Happy I don't know if it was. I think it was like I said I've been the eagles picked that the browns traded back Traded to the Texans would investigate and I mean again they already at the picking Baker Mayfield next year. The Oakland So there is that because I take the shot over Baker But yes I was looking at it the team that trade up if I had more success and then I'm like even going back to the Rams Titans'll through the times just now found their record record featuring tannahill low opposite. We don't really have the full slate of A full six game slate View and on the rams went through Super Bowl. Now Jared Goff good this year now but they're able to super bowl so the team that trade up have if they won they found Gorman they've had a lot of success and that's my few fabric whereby you like go and get them by any means so dumb dolphins trae whatever many patients have to do to get them. If I'm the bengals and you like Joe. Oberlin don't trade the pick. So we'll see what happens in the meantime between time but I just how I would view it. So we'll see if they're able to move or maybe. The dolphins have settled retriever up for two three to make sure they don't get jumped by the chargers but like they're going to trade for one potentially again rumored but if that is true. I discussed how I would do it. And why would do it? And if I'm the bengals and I liked her burrow. Don't do it at all. Get Your quarterback your regret it because then it's like. What are you doing quarterback? Now you're now you're GonNa just hurt. It doesn't hurt over to Joe Borough but again now the GM as I've said many titles podcast not GM. My next on on the line. If I'm wrong about these evaluations so we'll see what happens with all that but let's do it for me here today on GS emcees fourth. Podcast blend my G. S. M. C. Podcast network onto as always. Thank you for listening. 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Far as windows world is sports. The podcast concern. Bring out that message while ripping folks in sports and talking about those sports in praising votes in sports to giving his opinion about what's happening currently in the world of sports is all about windows. Roll the sports with yours truly window. Wallace a lotta things that i want to get into today in the world sports the nfl news the urban meyer. Can i ask you a question man. Exactly what are you doing. Where are you going what happened. What what. What is this. If i'm a member of the jacksonville. Jaguars the current member of the jacksonville. Jaguars i'm questioning another move. As a head scratcher by new head coach of the jaguars urban meyer striking again. The signing of tim tibo at first reported by the nfl network thirty-three-year-old is expected to sign a one year. Deal with the team in the next week will try to make the roster as tied in of course the question is all the question is why he's never played titans speaking tibo. He's never played titan before in football life with the exception of a handful of the snaps when he was with the new york jets in two thousand twelve. He's never played tied in a real football game for the most part ever high-school college not previous three years and he fell he's never caught a pass in the nfl. He's never had the opportunity he's never been asked block linebackers or defensive ends. He's never opened up whole running backs he's never been able to ask. He's ever been asked to pick up a blitzing situation as far as blocking concern. He's never fought off the linebacker getting to the open space to catch a pass and do some things. He's never done anything so after being away from the nfl for eight year after trying for baseball the failing of that to come back and try to become a football player when he's trying at a position that he's never played before. Welcome to privilege. Welcome to knowing somebody who will give you an opportunity but again what. I'm going to be talking about it in the next segment concerning this nonsenses. Is there anybody there in the jacksonville. Jaguars organization that could explain to urban. Meyer how bad of an idea. This is when i go ahead and talk about this. I'm sick and tired. I am sick and tired of people always starting off their criticism of tim tebow with. He's a nice guy he's a great guy. I've met two t-bone he's awesome. He's a great role model. He's a god fearing wonderful guy. This is not what it's all about all right. I'm not talking about ten tibo. The human being. I mean hell of tim tebow wanted to go ahead and say hello to my goddaughter city. City davis be like hell. Yeah let's go go go looking guy seems to be a really nice guy and all those types of things. So that's not what i'm talking about. We're not talking about nice guy. We're not talking about the tim. Tebow has great moral character and fiber. We're not talking about tim. Tebow being a wonderful human being. We're not talking about whether people should have his face painting on the side of a mountain. We're not talking about all that we're talking about tim tibo once again coming back trying to get a job and another position that he'd never played before l. ridiculous. It is. Excuse me how ridiculous it is and how it shouldn't be happening and if collin cabinet can't get an opportunity but tim tebow ken. There's something wrong with the owners in the nfl league right now still. That's what went. That's what we're talking about so my criticism of temple. The football player is that of the football player of of trying to come back to play and really the criticism is going to be urban meyer. Who thinks that's a good idea to let him do this. Why are they doing this. This chance of making the team slim to none. What did they say the. Take pressure in attention off. Trevor lawrence the sell tickets the jacksonville community excited disintegrate example of leadership and commitment to his teammates. I don't get it. I don't understand. So i'll be speaking about that today on the podcasts also want to get to some nba news the boston celtics. We know the nba playoffs are right around the corner. The boston celtics all star. Jaylen brown is out for the remainder of the season. The all star guard has torn ligaments in his right in his left wrist. Immel mr remainder of the season. This is what the team said on monday. He was diagnosed. Brown was diagnosed with the injury over the weekend and expected to have surgery sometime this week. So you know basically. What are we talking about here. As far as the celtics playoff chances after that embarrassing loss the other night to the cleveland cavaliers. They've now lost eight of their last eleven. Their free falling into the playoffs plaguing game. They basically they've situated themselves is guaranteed that they'll be in the playing especially the way that miami's whooping the philadelphia right now. But you know what what's going to be the expectations going into the playoffs. Before the news about brown and now what are they. What are going to be their expectations. What's gonna be the situation. If for instance the celtics flameout and even don't make the playoffs. They go ahead and lose right now to the indiana pacers. You hold the number eight seed in the eastern conference. If the celtics lose to indiana and then they lose in the the the the loser of the winner of the nine tennessee. Let's say they lose to the washington wizards so they're out of the playoffs altogether. Where the blame gonna come down again. Is the seat going to get hotter for brad. Stevens the kodjo. The celtics and let's say the celtics are able to make the playoffs. Which team had the better chances to surviving. A season ending injury to their star player. Is it boston. Overcoming the loss of jalen brown his injury or as denver overcoming the injury to their star. Jamal murray so i'll get in. I'll talk about that quickly. Manley major league baseball here on windows world and sports park. Cath wou what is going on with. The los angeles dodgers man as of tuesday. I know they won the other night against seattle but as of tuesday. La is eighteen seventeen losers eight of the last ten while falling from first place to third place in the national league west behind the san francisco giants and the san diego charge. That charges will also the padres. The padres are charging past the los angeles dodgers for second place in the national league west. So my question here is man. How much damage did the dodgers sustain after. Going up against the san diego padres because if you think about it. First series against san diego was on the road from april sixteenth to the eighteenth came into that series was an eleven two record before winning two of three. And the that wouldn't be prognosticator. Started talking about this has now. This team has a chance to win. One hundred sixteen games like the seattle mariners and this team has a chance to be dominated as the nineteen ninety eight new york yankees who one hundred fourteen games. This team has a chance to be one of the all. Great pitching staff is unbelievable. They're hitters are second to none except for kenley. Jansen in the bullpen weakness at all concerning the los angeles dodgers. I mean we could be looking at a team like the nineteen eighty-four detroit tigers. Who started off the season. Thirty five and five. And then you know hold ass won the world series over the padres. And they were platitudes. Going toward the angeles dodgers among that level after that first series against the padres then the second series against san diego at home at the chevette ravine which was april. Twenty second to the twenty fifth. They came into that series with the fourteen two five record and then they lost three or four games including the series finale. Espn sunday night baseball. A game that lasted. I dunno seeing endless. Fifteen years Eight two seven in extra innings. Fernando task teach. Junior has an opening. I'm a mvp taliban caliber type performance. Very less series. The second of home runs in consecutive game shooting off consecutive cy young winners taking clayton kershaw deep. And all of those things and it was like. Wow wait a minute men. In fact i had a podcast. Speaking about men after that series with the los angeles dodgers. The the major league baseball has themselves the superstar here is for nando. Tat teeth were going to do to capitalize on this. I mean he was at that level after that series against the dodgers chevette ravine well after that series ended. Now going back to the dodgers. They've gone three and ten. They lost five two second series for the first time since the stretch run of the twenty seven twenty seventeen season gone five fifteen for the first time since the early portion of the twenty eighteen regular season. Man what what is going on here now. Of course we're only speaking about you. Know may were speaking about late april. So yeah. I'm not talking about all of dave roberts needs to get fired. They need to make some changes in. It should be any time in la. I think this is a situation where they're now prisoners of what people's thought process was concerning. How great this los angeles dodgers was supposed to be worth supposed to be the season. I mean in terms of concern. Are you concerned argue annoyed. Are you home. Are you big deal that we know when september rolls around. I mean exactly. We're always here with the los angeles dodgers after the swoon situation. Where in lost a series or this situation where they're in sort of a mini type of. I mean we're speaking about thirteen. Fourteen fifteen games now in one hundred fifty two but but still are. We started the season patterns here. Are we starting to see some. Maybe roadblocks download down the road. Here ck don't think that the san francisco giants have the juice to stay in first place in the al west. Don't think san diego padres especially down with a tat. Tease contracting the covid disease or the covid virus. We don't know exactly how he's going to recover from that. We don't know how long it's gonna take for him to get back to the fernando tat teas that lit up the new that lit up the los angeles dodgers a couple of a series ago. So i think in all actuality. I think when everything will the dust is settled to use cliche. I think that the dodgers are gonna be fine and be a first place. But i think this is a situation where all of a sudden the dodgers go from being one of the greatest teams. Who's ever going to be playing major league baseball to one. That just went five fifteen for the first time since the early portion of the two thousand eighteen season and has gone three and ten in their last thirteen games. so now i think They're constantly the fans are genuinely concerned. I think it's based on the expectations that los angeles would challenge the seattle mariners for the most wins in a season. At one hundred sixteen. Orc challenge the dominance of the nineteen ninety eight new york yankees when they won one hundred fourteen games in crews onto winning the world series so the the dodgers have the best major league. They have may have a major league leading ten games by what they was trying to say here. God damnit basically been squeaky kinda shaky in one run games over the last couple of games. They'll be fixing that neighbor. Run differential of thirty two. Which is i in the national league. So i'm not going to be sitting up here. I'm not going to be panicking about the los angeles dodgers. They should be fine but at least something early in this regular season is something. Maybe you should look at wendell's world and sports. I'm your host wallace oakland. You could be with us boxing. The pound for pound king twist to be the undisputed super middleweight champion. Champion continues saul canelo alvarez. Stop billy joe. Saunders at the end of the eighth round the win the wb. Oh super biblically. Belt and give. Sandra has saw his first loss in his career. While i don't know man basically bracing breaking the guy's face with an uppercut in around seven competitive fight interesting fight. It was a electric. It was awesome but Soldiers fought pretty. Well i think if it was another opponent in another venue that the scorecards would have been more reflective of how close i thought the fight was i thought Saunders one more rounds than with some of the judges gave him credit for. But when you're speaking about a bunch of mexicans down near the yeah mexican border as jerry world and a situation like this. An was connecticut being the champion being the pound for pound king. It's going to take a little bit. More for billie joe doing what he was doing to impress the judges in that environment but It was awesome to see that fight in. The fight was in front of what over seventy three thousand breaking all the covert nineteen protocol rules and health requirements at gerry world at texas stadium. Not too many mask wearing folks at that event not too many folks Six feet apart for nilo. We're breaking the rules for canal. Oh we're getting kobe from cannella. We're putting our health on the line. Baby that's the value. You didn't go take a flying flip when it comes to wear masks in being responsible and making sure there's a little bit of distance so that bullshit is over. It has been over a year of them folks down in texas. Where like we're watching. Kinetico fight tonight and jerry world. So damn that nonsense. We are going going going so seventy. Three thousand people wouldn't in wash their fight when canal at the when he was starting to us take control at the end around and he it waving the crowd on and everything like that. The sound of the crowd man. I missed that after watching sports for over a year now and not having the crowd. Really get into it and everything man. It was nice. Man that was sweet manner was electric. Manna got my juices flowing. Men got even more excited to hear that crowd roar in approval and roar in. It's excitement in roar in the bloodlust knowing that Cannella was about the hurt. This cat and hurt billie joe pretty badly so it was awesome man. The fight broke the attendance record for the largest indoor tennis for a boxing event. In america the previous mark was sixty. Three thousand three hundred fifty after louisiana superdome for the leon spinks muhammad ali rematch in nineteen. Seventy eight and. What many but people thought would be at least last fight so thirty seven year old muhammad or thirty six year old mohammed ali after sleepwalking through the first fight against the aspects the guy who had only seventy five or something like that claim to fame when him and his brother michael medaled at the nineteen seventy six olympics but allie was old speaks came to fight out of shape and too much in from the guarantee or the amount of money he going to be making at the rematch so it was bowling fight ali. Of course the end punching hold punching hold punch and hold and hang on so compared to this fight as far as to nilo versus billie joe was concerned a much better much much better. So the seventy three thousand was apropos in terms of if you do break that record at least for now you do it. The environment was awesome. And you do it with the best fighter in the world right now so it was sweet. It was wonderful than again man. It was awesome to hear that roar of the crowd down there. So what's next for alvarez. Where are we going here. what are we talking about. His goal is winning all four belts in the one hundred and sixty eight pound division becoming the first undisputed champion in the modern era. I math mexican to achieve such a feat. That would put him at a place. Where chevenez and salvador sanchez and all the other great Boxing legends of many cornhole descent could go. But that's really wants to do so. Next in line became a plant. That is the. Ibm super middleweight. Champion so plant. Who's in american from tennessee. Undefeated twenty one and over twelve chaos. So this will be a really good Fight to make you can keep it over here. dueling september. Have it over at allegiance stadium in vegas another outdoor stadium Left bela's. let's get it together. And as far as you know the tv contracts and lose fighting who would who fights wear and all this other stuff man. Let me tell you. Some canelo. Alvarez runs boxing canal alvarez is kake the walk shall we say an for kayla plant who again super middleweight. Champion undefeated fantastic. He doesn't have charlotte canal. oh avarice doesn't have a shot. But i tell you what you go ahead and you do this. You fight this guy. You're gonna make more money than you'll ever make in your entire boxing career. So i have no idea i would have no explanation. I would have no reasonable thought why kayla. Clint wouldn't say yeah. Man was go ahead and do this now. It might be a situation where look once could never beat the shit out of my earning power might be diminished. A little bit. Because i'll no longer be undefeated. I'll no longer be a champion. So somehow someway. Y'all got to compensate me a little bit more than probably what you want to compensate me for nello. Of course being the champion camello. Of course being the headliner can no. Of course being the guy who's going to drive the tickets and drive pay per view and whereas on disown drive subscriptions to disown the fact that he's becoming or he's trying to become a four-time champion in a weight division. That's a good story line that we can go with so everything is going to be centered around canal. So of course alvarez is good and make the most of most of the money for this fight but yeah method came a plant. I'm a champion to. And i deserve a little bit more money than what joe look. Give me so there. We go so that that would be the logical choice right. But if plant is more concerned about his belt and his long term health then fighting alvarez and cashing in that make catching in that lottery ticket camel has other avenues. He can go to effect probably more lucrative and a more Interesting fight for cannella will be the third fight against triple. Gee that's that's easy money. He would make more money have an easier time and enhanced his legacy even more by vanquishing one of the better fighters of his generation. Go offline so canal because of the four that paycheck. I'm quite sure he would move. Move up the one. Sixty eight to tell us cabello. But you're speaking about triple jesus thirty seven thirty eight years old. Don't don't think would happen. Don't think that that would be much of a fight. But the interest would be there the pay per view numbers or disown or wherever they show that bad boy it would be there. Camilla will make a boatload of bunny from the fight because triple g is more known commodity than kayla plant. So if i'm triple. Gee if i'm canal alvarez came you want to sit there and bullshit or not take this lottery ticket. It perceived by it's going to be followed by the weapon that to be given fun. You go ahead and do that. There's much more many more avenues for me to make a boatload of money than for you. So that's what's gonna be talked about on the podcast today. We've got nfl we've got a nba. We've got some boxing talk about. We got a lot of good things to talk about. We've got this under one roof under one nation under a groove under one nation speaking about sports under one nation. Getting down and do what we need to do. The maintenance and entertaining compelling thought provoking a unique podcast. Sports talk podcast. You've never heard a podcast like this. Before you've never heard of sports talk podcast before you never heard anything as far as going to be given to you with the amount of passion with the amount of energy with the amount of them going to be giving a two year so as i go ahead get myself ready as i go ahead and we start this podcast. Let's get down. It looks bogey. One nation under this group go. When does the sports. I'm your host when the wall of glad you could be with us. A lot of things get down on discussed today in the world of sports is. I'd mentioned before the first segment will be given to a little tim tebow again. The jacksonville jaguars are expected to sign. We call tim tebow. What the the might lyndale tony robbins. Joel osteen kim kardashian of of the of the sporting world of the nfl. Tim tebow age thirty three expected to sign a one year contract later this week. Or next week to play titan. Hopefully for the jacksonville jaguars now a source confirmed. Espn a source confirmed the espn. The tied in is the position. He has never played in high school college or previous three years of the nfl yet. Played football speaking tibo. Filthy thousand fifteen preseason. He spent the past six years working as a broadcaster on the sec network and working on his professional baseball career. How did that work. Of course the chances of making the team they tied in them slim to none the five other tight ends on the roster who have played the position in college in the nfl. So if we're speaking about tibo making the team he would have to outperform. Not just one maybe. Two of the titans to make it to the roster. Now we're we're not speaking about prime years to weaken dollars antonio gates when we're not we're not speaking about killing. Winslow will definitely not speaking about his son. Jesus so we're not speaking about a hall of fame tight end room when we're speaking about tax Jacksonville Their titans been elephant is has one career catch. Tyler davis has played in eight games played in eight games last season for the jaguars after they selected him in the sixth round of last year's draft luke feral with the team's fifth round draft. Pick this season so the titans on the roster besides those three with the most. Nfl experience we're talking about james Who caught lewis thought. Eighty eight passes in his six. Nfl seasons he caught twenty eight passes for two hundred and sixty two yards. Last season and chris manhertz. Six seasons in the league with carolina has eight passes total in his career. He's mainly use as a guy who's going to block so even though again we're not we're not speaking about the kremlin la creme of titans the fact that you have a guy who's thirty three years old the etan play professional football and six years The coming changes switch to a position that he has never played except for a handful of snaps for the new york. Jets is foolhardy is ridiculous in terms of. Why would he even get an opportunity to go ahead and do that now. There's been other examples brock lesser. I gotta try out with the minnesota. Vikings couple of years ago when he was at the lyric prime so tvos both not breaking any new ground. I mean there was a long time ago. I remember what was i quite sure. Same bolt wanted to go ahead and try out at wide receiver and get invited to an nfl camp that nfl teams during that time would have gone ahead and see what they can do to try to bring him in to see what they do. Make them some type of wide receiver to make him a threat or that type of deal. So t boz not breaking any new ground on this listener played football. I believe in high school but he never played football in college. Never play football in the nfl. Never had a tryout in the nfl listener was a guy who was a russell champion while he was in college and then he went onto the wwf now known as the wwe before making a move over to mixed martial arts. And i think. I think that was in between i think after he left. Wwi he tried to Do the nfl thing When that didn't work he when ahead and had a brief but spectacular w a ufc career. But i mean this is a situation again where you know tibo gonna go ahead and try to do this so again. Why urban meyer. Even considering this why is he. Why is urban meyer. Even bringing the sin bringing bringing him in the sell more tickets to get more traction attention for the team. The jaguars are already have a nice increase in a big boost in the ticket department. Thanks to the hiring of meyer and then with the addition trevor lawrence in the first overall pick you know a transcendental. Pick this supposed to be as great as trevor lawrence. You know that. The jerseys are going to be flying off the shelves. So you know he's going to be near number one if not number one as far jersey. Sales is concerned companies up because of his reputation because of what he didn't college because of its known commodity of what he did when he was playing football as a university of clemson urban. Meyer like him love him. Whatever especially if you're speaking in the jacksonville area has a tremendous following has a tremendous Popularity with the team. So you know. That's not a problem brain into tim tebow without going to You know all of a sudden motivate these fan base to all of a sudden buy season tickets in even before the draft. The sales office had eight times. The number of new deposits compared to the previous several seasons and the team said that more than fifty percent of those deposits are from people who had never previously bought a ticket of any time with jaguar. So just the hiring of urban. Meyer had resuscitated some of the interest within the jacksonville community concerning professional football team. So bringing and tim tebow. What's that gonna do. Especially when the chances of tibo making the team are slim what you're gonna do you charge for people to see him during training camp in even if he doesn't make the team all of a sudden now tibo played tight end is supposed to be the of supposed to be the diffused. Gonna light the the ignition for this huge fan support in the jacksonville area concerning this team. Men get outta here. So i i. I don't believe that bullshit. I don't believe that nonsense. In terms of this is just a a a media ploy this is just a ploy by the jaguars to garner some attention. And the governor's fan base in garner new interest and the football team. So i don't believe that at all. There was an argument made and making