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Warren's Organization Faces Second Test In New Hampshire

AM Joy

09:59 min | 3 years ago

Warren's Organization Faces Second Test In New Hampshire

"This is not a time to you. Say the lucid. This is a time to step up and when we see a big problem offer a big solution. I shouldn't have to fight for it. I'm not running a race that has been shaped by a bunch of consultants. I'm not offering a bunch of proposals that have been carefully designed not to offend big donors. I pass at stop sign a long time ago. Good morning we're incredible answer but we are just forty eight. Our primary those comments by Senator Elizabeth Warren which appear to be directed at people to judge underscore the frustration that many democratic women you are feeling at the sheer dismissal of Warren and the other women candidates by people who are getting pulled by some voters and yes by much of the media. I mean she does have a point because when you look at. The field of candidates took to the stage in New Hampshire this week. It's really hard to argue that the two strongest candidates representing the moderate and the progressive wings of the Party. You weren't the two women who shared the New York Times endorsement for President which was also weird namely Senators Warrant and eight which are so. Why is it that the female candidates hates who come to the table with experience? Actual plans are not gaining as much traction as their male counterparts. CNN poll leading up to the debate underscores the point all all three women candidates who remain in the Race Elizabeth Warren Amy Klobuchar and Tulsa Gabbard our polling below ten percent among New Hampshire voters. We're now learning from the Boston Globe. WBZ tracking poll. That is the only female candidate who benefited with a three point. Bump from Friday night's debate and that apparent excitement helped her. The campaign raised two point. Five million dollars since the debate. No Word Yet from the Warren campaign of any fundraising updates with New Hampshire almost in the rear view mirror. What does that mean if anything as Democrats headed to more diverse states like Nevada and South Carolina at the end of the month have Democrats writ large decided that they try to woman candidate and and it didn't work and so now it's a man only game or is gender just not a factor in how Democratic voters are choosing their candidate? Joining me now. Is James pendle political reporter for the Boston Globe. Kimberly Atkins MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR and senior Washington correspondent for Wvu are and Beth who's MSNBC senior politics editor the senior politics editor. Thank you guys for being here. James Start with you. It does seem like women are doing well in terms of presenting plans branding themselves. They can do candidates but not doing well in the polls what. What can we read into that here in New Hampshire well clearly right now is on on the upswing after that debate performance when it comes to Elizabeth Warren her fall remember? She had a huge rise. She was leading in Iowa and New Hampshire for about two months in in the fall. It's not like it didn't happen. Her her fall has been confounding. A lot of people want to tie it to the Medicare for all there may be something else going on. What is very interesting to me all week? It's been looking at this question of gender because in New Hampshire more than any other state probably in the country it has a tradition of electing women. The office it was the first state in United States history that had a full female delegation to Washington. Is You know the senior senator from this state. Jeanne Shaheen choose the first woman in American history to serve both as a female as governor Senator and the second is the other senator from the name of Your magazine and so I've been curious where is is gender going to play. I talked to a lot of women. Here who really really want a woman nominee and they were confused about where exactly they should go Warren was not that obvious. Choice in the end this campaign and I think that probably is a factor in if I played this game but it is a factor any any Cobra Shar for example. Clarity Iowa she was clearly the story. She was clearly out of the race because she wasn't Warren. Obviously I do think would be doing a lot better here in Nisa the thinking that a lot of people have this. I'm going to go to cut three just for my producers that this is this is what a lot of women here would hear men talking about women candidates in general. This is our colleague. Donny Deutsch sharking on morning. Joe About warned on Friday. Take it with her. Is it certain. There's a certain strident to her. That do we want to invite her in to our bedrooms in our living rooms every day for four years. I think she has the same issue burning as I don't think it's a gender issue. I think it's a likeability issue and you know I think we have to be careful. I think an amazing woman would be a great antidote to John's point earlier a different definition of strength. If you weld strength the strength but in a different way but I I don't think Elizabeth Warren problem has been that. She's a would the likable thing. Right I don't get it because she actually reminds reminds me of all the other soccer MOMS on ice to soccer mom. She actually seemed quite likable to me. I don't get that but that is the thing that's hung on her. It's very gendered critique because Bernie Sanders and she if you compare them which one is sort of more invite him to dinner. I don't know but I'm not sure that she loses that fight but she is losing the fight for the to being the lead in the progressive wing the messaging of it is hurting her. Absolutely if you talk to Democrats they say that they like Elizabeth Warren. She's not unlikable. That doesn't bear out when you speak to voters and it doesn't bear out in the police now. Some of them say well. I like her a lot. I'm not sure she's my first choice. That's a different things. Yeah that's not the thing that's being hung on her. What is happening is just you have a structured race and she'd have to pull from other people and so far the other candidates that she might pull from someone like Joe Biden is getting those votes if they are being pulled their pulled? Oh by people to judge I think that is the known factor that that wasn't anticipated. I think right now we also have to remember. I know we talked about this. A Lot. More here in New Hampshire Iowa New Hampshire or a tiny part of the electorate it right now the name of the game. It's having enough money to stay in this for the next several contests a month from now. This race will look entirely different as it moves onto Nevada and South Carolina Super Tuesday. And so. That's what the Amy Klobuchar fundraising number was so important. If she can stay in it. Yeah you don't know what comes after Biden can only go up. Big Question is what happens to warns. Yeah absolutely and do they have to keep going supposed to Super Tuesday. Has Like one hundred thousand states in California. Don't Walsh Pals at my pal wrote a piece in the nation about the ratio worn and she writes the following from the moment cable network switched from her caucus night. Rally speech to Biden's Warren has been virtually erased as the fight for first replace continues into Thursday. I've watched Cable News and Cable News Channels mentioned Warren only in passing if at all MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell had been one exception featuring during an interview with Warren Wednesday night and Thursday. She was hosted by Chris. So there is a meeting it back to the other side of that. Media factor is advertising. So whenever I go to a city you you know in these elections. I watch a lot of local news and there are a lot of advertising in from Tulsi Gabbard. Who all over TV? I didn't see a lot of advertising Elizabeth Warren. So she's not getting the free we media out of cable news coverage and she's not getting paid media a lot of it at least from what I saw in New Hampshire so far. So is this a media problem as much as it is messaging problem. You know what I think about when I'm here in New Hampshire is in two thousand eight. When Barack Obama came out of Iowa with this huge head of steam and he seemed to be steamrollering to the nomination? We've got to New Hampshire. They headed debate. That was what Barack Obama said to Hillary. Clinton you're likable enough. Hillary speaking of likeable and two days later she shocked everyone including including the media and beat him in New Hampshire and set off that cage match to the very end with Iraq Obama. was you know one for the history books. So the whole issue of women and likeability has played out here in very very prominent ways. And we're seeing at once again in New Hampshire on the question that Johnny brought up that you addressed. So here's the thing. Is it an issue of ability polity. We're just an issue in New Hampshire and everywhere else of people being terrified to nominate the wrong candidate. Everyone wants to be president trump. They're looking at this field. They're not sure who the right candidate is do that. That's why we've seen this kind of muddled factor and Elizabeth Warren probably there is a fear that because Hillary Clinton Twenty sixteen did not beat president trump even though everybody expected affected her to was it. A factor of gender and is it wrong is not the best idea to a nominate a woman. That's a woman did not beat him last time. I think that is one of those things that people. We're trying to consider when you're looking at this large field. Everyone's being a pundit New Hampshire two thousand eight race because that was also raised a talked about how you lose being able to be how you win because remember on the one hand for Hillary Clinton. She had that moment where she teared up the day before Mary she's likable again. Sort of acting. Additionally Women Leeway but Barack Doc Obama's yes we can speech was his losing speech in New Hampshire it ended up rocketing him forward because yes we can then became the defacto theme of the campaign so it it could be that one of the people who is an also ran in New Hampshire. Can you almost lose to win. That's right that's saying I mean the role that Particularly the role that women play in the state and the crying thing from Hillary was about gender was about how do everyday as a woman how you get up as a woman. It was a huge moment for her obviously led to that major comeback. One thing. That's interesting about these comebacks. Is that this with Warren is set up for one. She set up for when here but she's not even talking about that and she's not out there. Earning it and nor is by the way Joe Biden right out there earning at the same time we talk about Joe Biden because he's an in an awkward position where he's he's pulling you the third or fourth and he really needs to win but I want to get to before he could tell you. WanNa talk to amy because she you know the audience that we had that was in studio for us or in Studio and what we call or studio the other part of this building that was watching it was pretty unanimous that she had the best debate does she had the strongest performance.

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The debate Democrats have waited for: Joe Biden vs. Elizabeth Warren

Monocle 24: The Globalist

00:47 sec | 3 years ago

The debate Democrats have waited for: Joe Biden vs. Elizabeth Warren

"I think that a lot of people are looking forward to watching joe biden and elizabeth warren on the same stage that hasn't happened yet of all the sort of major candidates <hes> that one particular matchup has not and they have two very different visions. I think of the future of the democratic party and the pitch they're making voters. Joe biden really have kind of a almost a reset back to sort of a nostalgic campaign in a sense he talks a lot about being vice president to barack. Doc obama talks a lot about his experience in politics for forty years whereas elizabeth warren really has this pitch of a big shakeup structural change and so these are two really competing impeding visions and we haven't seen them go toe to toe with each other just yet so. I think that we're all very interesting to see if there are direct criticisms or challenges if people don't oh you know exchange jabs that is apparent that we haven't yet seen

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