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"bally doyle" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"The moment, my overarching feeling is the derby runners overall are much of a muchness, and they're looking like an average bunch at this time of the year. That's not to say that something can't step forward and put a seal on the race, but you'd have to say, certainly, obviously I'm a ratings man, I'm a figures man, I tend to look at things through the lens of ratings and speed figures, and certainly rather dispassionately. At this moment in time, I'd say we're looking at a slightly below average renewal of the derby, and just hoping that something can step forward in the day and really set a seal on it. Yeah, I would agree with that. And it's through that prism that I want to get your ideas of where you're currently standing in the derby picture. So we kind of had this conversation last week a little bit, Sam, but we wanted to see how things were going to unfold with the Dante, and we got the race that we got. Who is your current pick for Epsom? Yeah, for me, I think given his links to Adyar, he's already ahead of him at a similar stage in their career. I am tentatively leaning towards military order, and I can almost hear the booze ringing in as I, I don't know if I'm quite tipping up a favourite here, but I think how he was running on the surface didn't suit in that Lingfield Derby trial, the track didn't suit, the horses can get all sort of tangled up, can't they? Coming down that hill, going around that tight bend, and as we spoke about before, the Godolphin horses are big dudes, aren't they? They've got big girths, big bodies, big legs, big everything. I won't elaborate too much more on that, but I just think he's... Should we start playing the bow chicka wow wow music in the background as well? Proceed. But for me, oh man, I mean, 3 to 172, would I be taking this price as a single? No, would I chuck him in some sort of fourfold potentially and see how it plays out? It's not a race that I'm absolutely gagging to have a bet in at the moment. For me, he's ticking a lot of the boxes without too many of the question marks arising. Aidan O 'Brien was so adamant, wasn't he, that August Rodin was still going to be his horse at the Derby after it all went wrong in the Guineas at Newmarket. Like you said, his price is all over the place. But of course, what that flop did was just present the doubts. And some people might disagree if they study miniature orders, runs in more detail than I have, perhaps. I've had a look at them, but for me, I don't see too much there where I'm like, oh, that could be a big issue at Epsom or that might trip him up. He seems really, really rock solid to me. But looking at the Dante, I know Andrew Boulding, like I said, is really desperate to have that Derby title. I think he'll get the foxes back in perfect shape for the race, hopefully. He did it with Caldean after he got rid of Frankie and then came back and was really impressive, wasn't he? So I think he's got his horses in really good fettle at the moment. Yeah, I think there are a few things that might concern him, like I said, about the weight loss and stuff. But the horse, you know, the horse has got a lot going for him. But I would probably just go with military order. Sorry. Sorry. I know. Boring choice. I like it. I like the fact that you're coming in with an open view that it's not a final selection. But as things stand, it's military order. And I can absolutely see why. I think the Frankel angle is going to be very important because we're now in an era where the Galileo's are limited. And they don't make him like that anymore. We've got a dominant Galileo for the Oaks, but we don't have one really for the Derby. And so you've got to look to who is going to step up in his absence, who's going to be the next big superstar. And it's clearly Frankel at the moment. And he's got two in military order and the other is a rest. And I'd favor a rest right now. I really like that performance of Chester with soft ground, which would make you a little bit hesitant. It's Frankie, his last ever Derby. He's bound to be well supported. He could be an awful lot shorter than he is now at nine to two, five to one. I don't have any doubt about the Fox's staying, funnily enough. I know that there's an element from some about the Churchill angle. Will he really get the trip? But his siblings are one over a mile six, a mile four, mixtures of Raven's past, Churchill's, Teofilio's. I don't think there's much of an issue there. His full brother stayed a mile four for Aidan O 'Brien. So I think he will stay. I just don't know if I want to pack him at that price anymore. The more I've looked at this race, the more I feel this is going to be a Wings of Eagles, Massar, Serpentine, Adair style of race. They're the most recent winners who've come out at shock prices. Like Wings of Eagles was 2017, Massar winning it in 2018 at 16 to one, Serpentine. How did he win a Derby? 25 to one and Adair was a 16 to one shot who was a significantly bigger price before the race started. He was a gamble that morning. And it just, even from what Mark was saying as well, but this just looks right now like there isn't a standout star. We all know who that star could be. It could be August Rodin. And again, there's a narrative amongst certain journalists that Aidan O 'Brien's comments in recent days tell you this is the main one for Bally Doyle. Can we just look at this logically? Obviously he's the number one for Bally Doyle. They don't have anything else. Not this season they don't. If Continuous had come out and won, he's automatically supplemented for the race. But the fact that he was beaten means maybe they go to France with him or maybe they'll just wait for Roy Lasker. San Antonio, they were very quick to downplay him after he won at Chester. And they've taken out the horses that we told you were injured a couple of weeks ago. and In Alexandropolis Victoria Road. They're now officially out of the race. So there's just not a whole lot there. It's all about August Rodin. And even that question that he was asked at the media day just after Cheltenham. Is there a triple crown horse in the yard? Well, of course he's going to say August Rodin because you couldn't say Victoria Road. Because Victoria Road might have been good enough to win a Guineas had he run. Could have stayed a mile four, but he's not going to stay a mile six. So it's some of these comments that are being made about August Rodin are very leading. And it's just like it's almost trying to hype a horse up when I don't think they're trying to do that at all. I don't think it's not as though Aiden is saying, no, it's going to be an impossible task and we can't win. But you're asking to turn around a 22 length defeat in a classic in the space of 28 days while also being asked to take four to one. And I'm saying that as someone who has him at 16s, I just can't see it. If he does it, amazing. I can still see him being a huge player in the arc later this year. And maybe the fact that it's such an open derby, maybe that really does mean this fella can come along and win it. But it's training performance of all training performances if Aiden manages to get August Rodin to win. So I'm looking for something at a price. And right now it's Dubai Mile is up there. I really like Paddington, but he's going to go to France and he hasn't gone over 10 furlongs yet. Never mind a mile four. The other is Aldar. I know he got beaten at Chester, but so was Wings of Eagles. Maybe something like him at a wild price could come along and be very much in the mix.
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"bally doyle" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"Interesting year. And it'll be something to look forward to over the summer. Very much so. Very, very much so. And the final race we're going to talk about is the Derby trial in Ireland. It used to be the Darren stone star Derby trial. It's a little bit worrying that a race of this prestige doesn't have a sponsor, but anyway, the Derby trial goes to Jessica Harrington's beats up and under. So the form looks good because he had won the bally Sachs or what used to be the ballet sacks on his apologies. He was placed in that. His second in the belly sacks. And you've got a group on winning two year old and proud and regal back in third. Jessica is obviously had some tough battles personally in recent times and it's great to see her doing so well. But it's also fantastic. So you're doing so well on the track and they've got a right one for epson with this fellow. Yeah, it's been traditionally it's been a very solid yard stick as a trial for nips and Jeremy and he looked and impressive for us today. The only thing they say is he's never hasn't ran on good ground yet as he has been always with an easing of the children bother him and he looks to be an improving horse. So it would be great to see great to see Jessica Barrington of modern great to see you have a bit of a more real chance. The second horse open under, he came home well and you could imagine him going for the Irish therapy wouldn't you? Yeah. What's the best name of the country and I was here? I hope you are trying to mind a handicap. If that fella appears in someone's list of dark horses to follow, it's like there's a spoofer if you've ever seen one. Because yeah, he's an absolute solid moral to God when he's doing his maiden. John Joseph Murphy must be loving life with white perch. I don't know what the reason was for him not turning off, but they can be pretty excited about him. I know he's in the Dante. Maybe they're going to run them there. But it's a significant boost to his form. Yeah, I'd imagine that. Yeah, so it's great to see different stables having contenders. It makes it more interesting. It's great to see Jessica and shaman John work be having courses that can go with the look forward to one of the two therapies, if not both of the derbies with a realistic chance of winning. It will be interesting. It very much so I said this a couple of weeks ago on the show, I don't think that Darren stone is the trial it was for bally Doyle anymore. And I kind of mentioned it earlier on the show as well. I think ever since Kieran Fallon came in, Aiden's mindset was turned to focusing the preps for horses instead of the old days of Galileo high Chaparral and yeats who was favorite for the Derby and had won the belly sacks and the berenstein and then was a very late withdrawal from epsom since those days and Kieran Fallon's involvement. They've become much more focused on Chester, the 2000 guineas and link field. And I think they're the key trials. That's where you'll see the bally dog horses emerge, which is probably a good thing, because the horses they run today were pretty underwhelming. I thought londoner would really step forward from his run in France. He's run okay, but he's been blown away really by just going to tourists and his son Joseph's and Tower of London didn't come forward at all from last season. Yeah. So yeah, I know they have as you said being sending their better hopes now towards Chester. The declaration. So I suppose they kind of think if they can act around Chester than the actor and episode, isn't it?
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"bally doyle" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"The real story was Frankie. So. Hopefully the look forward to a good season, anywhere watching him. Well, this is something that racing has to and I know people are going to get tired of it very quickly. It's like, oh God, it's Frankie's last royal Alaska that's Frankie's last year. Frankie's last breeder's cope. Boss, it's a terrific marketing tool, because what you said earlier on about who are the jockeys who transcend the sport, you are right. It's Rachel blackmoore and Frankie the Tory. There isn't like for all that we love Rhine Moore and he's an incredible talent. Just doesn't have the charisma. They're not booking him to go on grey Norton's show. Whereas Frankie would be on that. So yeah, I think racing has to properly milk this for all it's worth. And another jockey has got a terrific personality. A Sheen Murphy. Big friend of the show. And winning a classic went very close on a 120 5 to one shot the day before. Got a great tune out of that horse for Kevin Ryan. And then goes and wins the big one on Marge at a 9 to one shot in the end for side winter royal. That is side bin Soros first British group one win for ten years. hard to imagine that I hear him saying after I take a 191 group renders of group one winners I think he said something huge, but it's hard to imagine that he is he went back long, like obviously in the meantime charity up will be has gone from strength to strength. Well, apologies Dennis apologies. I've engaged in Russian disinformation and fake news. I gave you an accurate stat. It's not ten years since I've been through Rosetta. Sorry, no, no. I've been confused by my new producer for goodness sakes. It's his first British classic for 14 years and his first British group one for ten years. So we were correct. No Russian disinformation here. But yeah, he has been eclipsed by Charlie athlete. But when you consider 2003, 2004, 5, when he and Aiden O'Brien were going to war, and it was the height of godolphin versus kilmore, bally Doyle versus godolphin, you wouldn't have imagined that it would be ten years before he'd win another British group one for said. It has been a long time in the doldrums. Yeah, it's incredible for someone that I'm so huge success as you said back in those days and it was when he had all those good horses and they were going ahead to head
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"bally doyle" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"On whether they have a if they have another horse that they would think of and if they don't I would be if they don't have anything else strong like I think they will still try to aim for the therapy with them. They'll definitely aim for it. It's just whether or not he can actually realistically win it now. I firmly believe he's a group one performer and I'm somebody who has the horseback to 16 to one, not for a huge money. He's in a multiple bet that's turned out to be a complete disaster that I got badly wrong, but I do have him in a single as well. I won't be retiring from it. And I won't be going on a 5 star holiday, but we'll get a nice weekend away somewhere. I don't think it's going to happen though. I think he will win a group on this season. I think epsom might be a little bit too fast. And we'll talk about the Derby trial in Ireland in the second, the two horses that I didn't run there ended up getting blown away. But even those races I don't think are as important to ballet doll as they once were. Really, the Derby trial for bally Doyle is the 2000 guineas Chester and lingfield. They're the key ones where their main contenders would prep. Yeah, but of course Chester this week, this time next week, it'll be a lot clearer. Yes, very much so. And my big fancy for the Brian yard for the Derby doesn't even have an entry for the race yet. Let's continue it, but I'm sure we'll talk about him. Later in the week, in terms of royal Scotsman, I did hear some people saying perhaps he could drop back in trip. So it was very intrigued to hear you saying about going up because I would be more of your mindset. I think why not try them over a little bit further. Yeah. He does, I suppose on pedigree, his siblings are Myers and some foreign horses. Do you envisage a scenario where he could turn things around with chaldean in the Saint James's palace stakes? Were they to clash there? Or is it just a case of child in his beat him twice now? Fair and square, and he's just the better horse. Every race is individual, but he would
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"bally doyle" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"And the 5 to one is a carrot that I'm finding it difficult to get away from. But there is another horse in this race that I'm quite keen on. But of the two bally Doyle horses, I mean, from a price perspective, it's pretty simple. You go a little big bear, but price form, racings, speed, how do you assess the whole thing between the two? Ryan rarely gets it wrong, but Frankie Tory has ridden the 1000 guineas winner of raiden O'Brien a number of years. He's Ryan's been on the wrong one a couple of times. He went to America to join mendelsohn when donor Brian won on Magna graecia, Danica was on board Saxon warrior. How do you split those two and which one would you favor? Yeah, I think you kind of suddenly are quite succinctly there. I think if we're looking purely on what they achieved as two year olds, then little big bear had the better form. He was time for him's top rated two year old last season. His performance in that Phoenix stakes at the courier was absolutely sensational. There's obviously the doubt as to why we didn't see him after that, presumably. And read too much about this. Did he have a setback? He had a setback, yeah, but Aiden was at pains to stress that it wasn't serious. Like his career, it wasn't a blackbeard situation. His career was never in jeopardy. And he said on this show that it was actually a blessing in disguise because he'd had a pretty hard campaign up till then. And they would have kept going with him. He was capable of continuing to raise. But that the break would actually probably do him some good. Yeah, I think he'll be fresh like you say, well, he worked. For fitness. And it must have been a difficult decision for him without a doubt. For me, if you choosing between the two from a betting point of view, then you have to side with little big bear at the prices because he's got the best form. We think he'll probably stay. And August wrote and maybe is
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"bally doyle" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"Guineas. For the first time in 70 years, a monarch will be crowned in the UK with the coronation of King Charles, but the big question for us is who's going to be crowned the winners of the 2001 thousand guineas at newmarket. The first classics of the season are upon us and Aidan O'Brien is sure to have a big say, no trainer in the history of racing has won more British classics than the master of bally Doyle 39 British classics to his name already and is he going to be able to land some more he's won ten 2000 guineas more than any other trainer in history 7 1000 guineas and he's done the double four times as you just heard footsteps in the sand and Virginia waters in 2005, Camilla and homecoming queen in 2012 Churchill and winter in 2017, Magna graecia and hermosa in 2019. He's got August Rodin and little big bear to go to war with in the 2000 guineas and the breeders cup and royal ascot heroin meditate and never ending story winner of the Irish 1000 guineas trial at leopardstown on her season reappearance. It is going to be a cracking weekend to break it all down. I'm a Kennedy joined as always on Thursdays by Tom forms Mark Milligan, mark as you look at the 2000 Guinea picture and it's difficult to assess how good these horses can be when this is their first race of the season. But what is the feel, given the fact that you've an extensive background as a two year old handicapper and for time forum, what's your overall feel for the class of this year's two classics beginning with the 2000 guineas? Yeah, I think the overall feel that I get is that we're looking at a potentially above average group of three year olds this year, which hasn't always been the case, has it over the last couple of years. Obviously, the Bali doil hate machine has gone into overdrive about August rodan and his potential
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"bally doyle" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"Next day, sweltering heat and hoping that there's no spies from asking around so that I can take the jacket and the hat off because the second you do that, excuse me, sir, would you please leave without making a fuss? It's tremendous. Very excited for babies. It's also in the tussle skull cup in Ireland on the end of May so that might be an option after we make a decision about where we go next weekend. Yeah, because that's going to be a heart race. We know that that's, well, we know that Luxembourg will be going for the pre Ghana. Along with the Dani. So if he goes there, that's going to be hot. And Aidan has intimated that it's the goal cup for Luxembourg. So potentially taking him on twice. But by the Senate, we'll talk a little bit more about Luxembourg later on, but the sounds of things, at least from what Aiden has said early in the season and we'll talk to him next week. Please guard. It's sounding like a Dylan Thomas duke of marmalade kind of campaign. At least that's what's initially being mapped out for him. So that's going to be interesting, but in terms of your, it's great that by the way, and James Wigan have kept him in training because he could be so, so good this year as a 5 year old. Back as a 5 year old, the mirror at chili park. Her form reads particularly well from sandin, where she beat grand damn, therefore still went on to be third in a group one afterwards behind Neil callan source. How is she winter? Yeah, she's went to really well. She's going to, we think we might start her group to it mile at stand down next Friday. Which we won with another cheaply park Philly call rights on last year, got an exceptional ride from Ryan Moore that day, I must say, so that's where she'll start. She liked sand down, the ground should be nice and then I mean, we sent her over to Ireland last year and she just didn't perform at all. So we'll have to be careful where we where we choose to run, but I would think I would think that next week in the group to mar and then maybe back to epson where she runs so well last year, Derby day. There will be an early season options, but she's got a group to win her, I think, personally, and she's a progressive Philly and she's training really well. It's a tip in itself that she's still in training and chili Parker very sporting in that regard. Just on the fact that she bombed out in Ireland. That's something we see happen quite a bit. Obviously not exclusive to your yard. It's a thing that happens with every stable. There are certain horses who just don't travel. But can you put your finger on why? Well, it's just completely out of routine. Listen, you know, you don't ask them to do it very often. So it doesn't become it doesn't become a habit to them. I mean, I think you'll see, let's just take David o'meara say. He sent his sprinters over to the current of to France a couple of times a year. So they're well able to handle it. So it's just something like that was the first time she'd done it and we just think maybe it was just something else to think the horses it's only after they run you see if they've traveled well. They can eat up and they can drink and they can train well while they're on the trip. But a trip like R in where you're going through the night, they get exercise the next morning and then they run the day after. It's not like you're going to America for ten days and you just given a few days to settle in and acclimatize. It's very much in and do it and some horses just can't just can't do it. I mean, I've taken a horse I've taken horses like an old favorite of ours linga to Munich when we he had a ten hour box trip to cologne stopped overnight at a ten hour box stripped down to Munich and won a group one very easily and came back and you could around a week after it's just individually how they take it and how they maybe stress about it or just settle in. It's very much an individual thing Emmett and Aiden's horses are well used to traveling. They fly into the UK or they box down to generally box when they're at the Chester may meeting. They're very much used to traveling even these two year olds, you know? So in the longer term as three and four year olds, it's just another day out for them. Yeah, he will do things like at the start of the season, bring them for an away day to the kura. And even it's different for Aiden because they have the ability to be able to do this with the cool more might, but I'm fascinated by the fact that all of Aiden O'Brien's runners at Roy lasker wake up at bally Doyle that morning and go to bed at belly door that night, and so does Aiden. It's remarkable. It's remarkable. It's just the most professional outfit. I mean, it's second to none headed by pat Keaton and it's just a firm that you look at them and everyone admires them. You know, they're just the way they do it. There's a massive amount of work goes into what they're doing rightfully so they get the results. Yeah, it's such a well oiled machine that you can't be anything but admiring of it. And one of the things that fascinates me about Aiden is each season I talk to him. There's a change. You would imagine that when you have that level of success, literally the record holder for classic winners in British racing. Aiden O'Brien, first classic in 1998. And he has that record already, who knows how what that record will end that by the time he gives up his career. But a word you could never use a word you could never use with a Brian and team palliative complacency. You would think he sets the record. He beats Bobby front in the late great Bobby frankel's record for group and grade one winners in a season. And he still evolves and is trying to tinker and change and make things better. It's he doesn't want to stand still. They want to be even better the next year. It's quite frightening, but you can't be anything, but admiring others. Just finally on horses traveling. I remember getting word from cheltenham that beef or salmon was not drinking was not eating on one of his many trips to Sheldon, but this was the year he was the four to one favorite for the gold cup. It was the year war of attrition one. And you will hear racecourse rumors and sometimes they're absolute nonsense and sometimes there is facts to them. When a horse doesn't travel, particularly well, doesn't take that in.
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"bally doyle" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"At I've never taken a fall off a horse called not pleasant. If I was a rather take a fall off a horse in December or January then in April or May, you know, on the ground is like a road. Yeah, you'd rather fall in. Exactly. Yeah, I don't think you're going to see him writing again. But hey, I've been wrong before. To wrap things up on a brighter note, the flat is back. We are talking about jumps racing and we've got a lot of jumps content to come, but classic thoughts. So 2001 thousand guineas, Derby, the oaks, Lucy Russ. Have you had a bet on the classics yet, or are you currently working out your shortlist? Yeah, I'm still working on it. I haven't had any bets, certainly. We'll be waiting until nearer the time, but obviously August the road and looks like the horse to be, well, the sort of flagship horse this season, doesn't he? And probably more of a diary prospect than 2000 guineas. But meditate obviously in the 1000 guineas, I think she has a really strong chance I thought lizzo well for the race becket team. Because she's one of the track in the past, so handles new market well. But overall, I'm looking forward to seeing all the rest of the road in the most this season. Which do you think is going to be better for Willie taking both? Is he more of a Guinea source or is he more of a Derby horse in your mind? He's more of a Derby horse in my mind, but I mean, he just looks fantastic, doesn't he? He just looks like the next best thing in flat racing. And obviously he won the group one last season. The infinity of one miles. So yeah, I mean, I think the guineas and then the Derby, hopefully those two targets will accomplish. It's a strange one, Barry, because this is going to be a bally Doyle with a waning influence on Galileo, like Galileo was so important as a stallion and obviously an incredibly influential one, but they're now moving away from him because we simply don't have enough of his stock anymore. And so deep impact and no name ever is coming to the fore and deep impact was huge with August roden and obviously his stock. There's not many of these. They don't make them like this anymore, unfortunately. So he is going to be hugely important because cool more are investing more and more in Japanese stallions. They're obviously supporting their own American stallions justify as one that they're a huge fan of and I think we'll see big things from him this season. No they never. They've invested an enormous amount on that was hugely successful last year. But in terms of August rodent do you see him as a potential Guinea's winner or like Lucy and myself for the record, is he more of a Derby type in your mind? I'd still like to see him once more this year and my probably be more of a diabetes I'd say, but he's very, very short. I think 5 to two for the therapy. And I have another if it was the pull up a couple 8 in the brain did a bit of give a good match to a horse called terror of
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"bally doyle" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"Scene, and then all of a sudden they were sending over multiple runners for the Dante meeting, multiple runners to Chester, the lingfield Darby trial became a huge one for them as well. And those trials, the 2000 guineas. Yeah, because am I right in thinking that Chester had never really been on their radar until Kieran Fallon got the job. I don't think it was. Listen, if I'm wrong about this, please do correct me. Tweets was at radio Emerson at Mark Milligan and let us know you idiot you moron Kennedy do you not remember that he tore that place apart in 2003? Why did I do an American voice? I have no idea. But Kieran joined in 2005 and I don't think Aiden had been really targeting Chester. He had runners in the Dante, but I don't think it was like any, I would say that the horses he was if he was sending horses to Chester and he was sending them to the Dante meeting. They were almost the scissors to try to understand and get a feel for how good the British talent is compared to their talent. And if you think that's not something they do, good for you. I'm pretty damn certain they do do that. And I think this has fallen a fair way down the pecking order. This race. And the example of that is their staring you in the face. Look at the last ten year results. Just look at the results of this for 8 O'Brien since Fallon came on board. In 2005. They've all gone to Chester to the 2000 guineas to the link field arbitral to the Dante and to a certain extent to the Terence town, but even the Darren's town wouldn't be as strong anymore as it used to be for rayden. I think running a horse in the classic, running a horse in the 2000 guineas going for a Chester Javier trial going for lingfield. That's much more on the agenda for them now. That's much more of their priority. I would say 2000 guineas, any one of the Chester Derby trials and lingfield would be way ahead. Of this. That being said, in a price got a whole lot of talent for the Derby, and he's got to divide them up song Ho. So what we do scenario here isn't that sorry. Do you think alexandropolis could run in this and then taking one of those are the trials as well? Give him some more experience. Possibly, but you would imagine if he's going here the plan would be running here, then go Darren Sten. But you could break tradition and go win a bally Sachs if he does that and then go and now let's bring him over to England and let him prep in Chester. Or let's prep him in linfield, which would be a complete about turn. It would be a change in scenario, but it would benefit the horse in that he would learn about and away day and what it's like to travel over to England and come back. And they do all of that that should quantify this. Broom obviously won the Dubai gold cup and I'm still going how the hell did that happen? But Aiden does send these sources over to the foreign jurisdictions much earlier than he used to. I mentioned that last week with the breeders cup, it was a huge success for him. And he's trained to win in Dubai on the back of that as well. But for England, they literally fly out that late morning and they flow back that night. So all of not only does all of Aidan O'Brien's runners at royal ascot, wake up in ballet oil and go to sleep in belly toil, so does it in a brine. He literally flies back and forth every single day. He's not staying in some plush 5 star hotel. Living it up. Now he's right back to bally Doyle and then back again. It's extraordinary attention to detail. But you're mentioning potentially backing him each way for the Derby. Personally, I wouldn't do that. I'm not, I don't want to talk anybody out of a bet. If you like Alex, if you like alexandropolis, then back him. Don't let me talk you out of it. But he's a best price 16 to one with beta for the Derby right now. Alfred munnings is another horse I've heard positive vibes about. Who we haven't seen since Roy Alaska. He's out to 33s. You've got the favorite in August Rodin. So where does alexandropolis currently rank? Well, very prominently in the antifa bedding. Probably second pick in the anti prospecting market. But then not far behind them is Denmark. You've got gulu gong, who won the other day. Greenland, who are mentioned, Gulf of Mexico, custom ups to fortune has been disappointing. Hands Anderson is 50s. We'll see him in the 2000 Guinea trial. There's Luxembourg's brother, hiawatha, who you and I hold in very high regard. It didn't quite happen for him last season, but I think we'll see a different horse this year, 66s. He is, he's clearly very prominent and if he wins, then he's going to be 6 to one. Victoria rode the British couple and there was a 25 shot. What's it going to be? 6s, 5s, if you wins this. Yeah, there'll be single figures. Particularly if it wins impressively. Do you think you'll win? I do, yes. Are you going to back him for the Darby before this race? I think I probably will. I think that will be the best way to play this because I think you'll go off a short price favorite on Sunday.
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"bally doyle" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"The flight who's an aggregate account, isn't he? Yeah, that's right, yeah. So the point to make there is this has been done before. A flash horse has come into the jumps game, made his debut in this race and gone on to win. She'll get the little bit of an allowance. Is she going to be your pick? No, she's not simply because I just think there's just a little bit too much guesswork involved for me there for all. I think she's quite a big price. I think it's about ten to one when I was looking earlier. I was impressed by rare Middleton's debut, even though he only won by three pounds of the limb and the race itself, the bare form at tonton is nothing to write home about. He just strikes me as potentially a very, very big improver in here. And I think it's interesting. Speaking of Zach under and Paul Nichols, I think it's interesting that he's decided to go for this race with rare Middleton off the back of what was on the face of it an ordinary enough maiden hurdle win. So look, scriptwriters clearly don't want to be set to high standard on the form that we've already seen, but I'm going to plump for rare Middleton. He's one of those horses who has got the time form large P attached to his rating. We don't give these out Willy nilly at the organization. And they're only reserved for horses that we think will improve markedly on what they've already achieved. So with that in mind, rare Middleton will do for me. Well, I'm very pleased to hear you say that. Because rare Middleton is my pick as well. Only raised twice on the flash finishing second in a current aid and last September on debut. And then winning a ten for a long maiden at leopard stand in October for Andy Oliver before Brian drew and dinah wheatley forked out 215,000 of the king's finest sovereigns for him. I should say Guinea's because it's 5% extra, isn't it? For each Guinea. So you're just squeezing a bit more out of the buyers. That was a modest hurdling contest, a tone. There's no question about that. And he did, he jumped right slightly. Which won't be a problem here because now we're going back right under again. And he did get in close to the last. But Harry Cobb never touched him. It was hands and heels all the way to the line, and he just looked like he could have exploded through that race if they wanted him to. I was really impressed with him there. And so was Paul Nichols because this is what he said afterwards. Rare Middleton is a very smart horse. Credit this quote is coming from the racing post when it works. Rare Middleton is a very smart horse. There's loads more to come from them. You only started schooling 6 weeks ago and I don't like running them that soon. I was concerned about the first time on this ground and whether he get the trip, but he's a nice horse and you will hear a lot more about him. Immediately the Adonis hurdle was named as the target, and Paul Nichols has won this race three times in the last ten years, and if we were to go back even further, bringing in star country that would look even better. But let's just go with the ten year figures. In the last ten years, Paul Nichols form figures in this race with his first string and he's only got the one runner today reads. First, third, second first, no runner, second, fourth, first, third, and then last year, one bummed out 8. But ignored last year, really, really solid record in this race. He's got a terrific record at the track as well. And they talk a big game with this fellow. And I'm not so sure about script writer anymore. I didn't like the run at cheltenham the last day. I mean, I was a big fan of this horse early in the season. You were? Did I put him up a shelter? I might have. I think I did. Yeah, I think you did. I still don't fully understand what the ride was, and I don't want to be overly critical of paddy Brennan, but it did look as though something had gone wrong with the tack, and then it turned out there was no Lydia hill upper saying that on racing TV as well. Turned out there wasn't an issue with the tack. Milton Harris came out and said that he doesn't like being in front too soon and paddy said he doesn't like being hit with the whip, which is great considering the current circumstances. Anyway, moving on, moving on. But he's giving 5 pounds away here. And I just didn't like the way he went through that race. I thought he would fight in the finish and Milton Harris said that he was an ex lead horse at bally Doyle. And that was almost insinuating that they were forcing him, like the Seabiscuit film. Seabiscuit being forced to have other rained back to have other horses go past him. That's not what they do at belly do it. So I don't buy into that at all. I think it was just an excuse on the day for all that I admire Milton Harris a great deal. These great trainer. But it just seemed as though they were trying to pluck excuses from the air. And I have a question mark about him now. Nose red is exciting. And I still think that was a good run behind it was a very impressive run on debut in the context of things. It wasn't a horrible run behind lassie mav, considering how good she is. The day against blood destiny is a little bit harder to explain. Why didn't he get somewhat closer there? And the fact that he hasn't had a breathing operation, but he's wearing a tongue. I would concern me. I've got a bit of a theory here. Do you think that I think the ground was more testing at fairy house last time? Then it was at leopardstown. Yeah, it was soft. It made a couple of mistakes, and I just wonder when you look at this flat pedigree. Whether he just struggled to jump out of that ground for me. I think it would be much better suited to a decent surface at kempton. It's good ground officially at the moment. He's got a flat pedigree by golden hall. I think the conditions of this race will suit him much better. I think we'll see him jump better. I'm going to play the reverse forecast here. Rare Middleton and Israel, because if that comes off, it'll pay very well. A script writer is going to make the market. If script writer wins, then that roar, I let out when live on air, I discovered with Mark that he had just won on the old weather as 11 to one. You will hear again. So I'd be delighted if he does go and win. I like paddy Brennan. I like Milton Harris, and I like the horse, but I'm with you rare Middleton. We'll move on to the pendle, novices chase two 25. I wonder we'll rare middles and make it into the bed deck multiple at the end of the show. I suspect it will. 50 grid with winning is going to the injured jockeys fund. So far, they've had no threat of getting that money, but this is the weekend. Let me turn it around. All right, the pendle novices chase great to boot hill as the 7 to four favorite for Harry fry and Jonathan Burke.