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Wall Street fears volatility long after election day
"Let's start with election chaos kate I'll start with you is. That the thing that would cause markets to bulk like there has been this this increasing conversation about expectations of volatility. If there is a contested election, what does it mean for among other things the economy? Well. You know as I think a lot of us who cover the economy like to point out the stock market isn't the economy, but it's a really important. Part of it is important signals that it sends and right now I think that what we're hearing and seeing and a number of different ways is that Yeah Wall Street is getting nervous I. I. Remember a few weeks ago getting an analyst note from a research firm here in DC laying out all the various scenarios of what might happen and what kind of chaos it could trigger and it just seemed kind of surreal reading it and I asked one of the authors and he said we're just getting so many questions from our investor clients about this issue, they want to know what is going to happen. They WANNA be prepared. You know typically in history. We've had one one of two scenarios either Republican Windsor a Democrat wins in this time it's not clear or you know may we might might not be clear who the winner is for some time maybe the president could challenge legitimacy of the election. There's there's a lot that could happen in Wall Street does not like uncertainty. Yeah Gino what does it mean? If Wall Street starts to get nervous not that I think Wall Street's GonNa Swoop into the rescue here but you know what could that lead to? You know I think it's interesting because this isn't a scenario in which it's really easy to just come up with an immediate solution given enough pressure. You know it is probably the case that we are not going to happen immediate conclusion to the vote count where we're likely not going to know who won on election day, and that's not really a changeable fact. So some some period of uncertainty lies ahead of us I think the real question is whether this election ends up being contested I. think that's clearly the thing that makes investors most nervous right now and I I just don't know what happens in that. Instance because you don't see situation where it would really be in anybody's interest you know there's there's no, it's it's not obvious that a real plummet in stock prices would be the thing that would prompt president trump not to contest this election. Since you know presumably he he would only be contesting if he had already lost and so I think there's there's really opened brushes some real reasons for legal to be nervous in it. That's why you are seeing what keep mench in which is just you know investors increasingly kind of scratching their heads and and looking toward the future with a lot of a lot of uncertainty. Right. Well, the other thing that's happening with all of this uncertainty exacerbated by of course, the Supreme Court fight is is that Congress has I. Think has been pretty effectively taken off the ball with respect to relief, right? Kate. What happens if if literally no more help comes from Congress on top of everything else. That's right I mean it seems like there's a there's perhaps a bigger risk from that scenario for the economy right You know there might be some turbulence around or after the election we don't know what that looks like or how long stock market turbulence. But for the for the fundamentals of the economy we are right now in this period seems really critical. People are trying to figure out what is happening right now what what are we going to see in the data because of course in? The end of July these enhanced unemployment insurance benefits expired and I think that a lot of people who had been receiving those maybe they'd managed to save up some money. They were drying down savings. We didn't see an immediate drop off from the expiration of those benefits, but there are definitely signs that things are slowing and You know we've heard from a number of economists on. We heard it again from Fetterman Jay Powell this week that you know eventually with Out. More fiscal support we're probably going to start to see the negative effects from some of that relief and it's not just uninsured and empl unemployment insurance. It's you know extending credit for small businesses. It might be you know around another round of stimulus checks just to help give people a little more of a cushion. So those are things that both sides want but there are some bigger issues that are kind of keeping them from coming together on this effort DOES THIRTY SECONDS LEFT GINA? Where do you think whereas the urgency? What's IT GONNA. Take. Yeah I mean I think it is a really interesting question what we have seen some sort of centrist Democrats in moderate Democrats really starting to get a little bit nervous in maybe push for some sort of compromise which I think is probably the best hope for compromise before the election I've not heard that we're GonNa get there an instance that we don't. You know there are real risks for the economy ahead. If we do not as as Keith mentioned if we do not have some more spending here I think it's one thing that's worth noting. I think a lot of people are taking comfort in pretty solid economic data right now but. A lot of American households build up solid savings buffers off the spending that happened earlier, and now that is kind of getting worn down in. So at some point in time that they will get through that. Kate Davidson at the Wall Street Journal and Genus smiling at the New York. Times. Thanks so much you too. Thank you. Thanks smelly.
Rooftop terrace unveiled atop Chicago's Old Post Office
"The growth of the old post office in Chicago has opened up. It's 3.5 acre deck to what tenants there are left. It is 3.5 acres atop what used to be Chicago's main post office. America's largest private roof deck features a basketball court Cora Mile running track heated paddle ball courts and 40,000 plus plants. Israel is an undulating prairie open on ly to building tenants a big draw in the age of Cove it when there may be more office space than anyone needs. Scott Kerensky is the executive vice president Bear construction. He oversaw the building That's really been trending the last 10 years with office buildings downtown, doing these amount of these features to attract tenants to the buildings in the first place, And now that in the the age age of of Cove Cove it it this this is is a a great great way way to to attract attract people people back back to to the the building's building's among among the the tenant's tenant's already already onboard onboard uber, uber, Pepsico Pepsico and and Walgreens. Walgreens.
US Supreme Court: The possible nominees to fill vacancy
"Of you paid attention to who the possible nominees are. People are talking about Amy Kuney Barrett and Barbara Lago do you know but these judges and can you tell us anything about them? Sure I mean there. It's almost certain to be Amy Coney Barrett. Just because trump has generally deferred to actually others throughout his four years especially when it comes to the higher court, the Circuit Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court, and there's really a pretty big consensus around amy. Barrett, there some talk that like trump would be helped in Florida if he went the other way. But I'll be I'll be very shocked if it's not her now she is you know a a more or less. Predictable right wing jurist. I think her her confirmation. We'll have enormous effects just because I think it's clear. She's a reliable vote to overturn Roe v Wade where. Probably, in her absence, they would just continue cutting the meaning of that precedent down. You know because even as of today it's it's been made so hard to get an abortion in the south that weather would wanNA speak of. A meaningful federal right to abortion is already open to question in in many other areas. She'll just confirm that drift to the supreme, court in this liberal direction, which actually some of the Democrats on on the panel have have kind of colluded and in taking it toward in recent decades. So the addition of one person is rarely like catalytic or transformative. Maybe on this one issue of abortion, it would actually lead five of the justices without chief justice, Roberts to overturn Roe v Wade, which might not happen otherwise and I'm not suggesting that's not a big deal. It is, but probably in most other areas of law, it would just be like the same more of the same except more. So so so what are the different ways that you see this playing out Let's say this happened than Biden is elected He then gets to replace I assume the next soon to retire Justice Briar I believe, right? I mean. We. Assume that Clarence Thomas would try to outlast Joe Biden in the same way that Ruth Ginsburg tried to outlast Donald. Anything could happen right and you happen and of course, we should probably talk about interesting relationship between Biden and Clarence Thomas. How much of a? Let's go there. How much did Biden in neighb- ball Clarence Thomas is Supreme Court. Or empower him as a sitting Supreme Court justice while he was instrumental as as the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, I mean you know we can get personal. But in we've all seen, you know whatever the you know the Netflix's reenactment of this level. But you know the truth is that Biden you know maybe like all of us only more so again has been a prisoner of his time all the way along and at that moment The He he responded you know as part of the like con, the comedy of the Senate required. You know he hung out with these other white men and they decided that this wasn't a big enough deal and there was deference even in a democratically controlled Senate to the you know right of the president to nominate a supreme. Court justice when a seat is vacant we've totally given up those those norm sense really as a country, but you know within the Senate to. You know I definitely think he sh- his treatment of Anita Hill is part of the record that we ought to think seriously about it's mainly testament to changing norms in the country about gender and about sexual violence and so I but I. so but I would kind of broaden out to less about his own limitations which may be substantial and more about you know. Where we've come why really starting with Robert bork before through the Clarence Thomas Nomination, and through our time we've we've really converted national politics into like these psycho dramas around filling supreme court seats, and again, the reason is not having to do with any of these individuals Biden Thomas. it's more with what's at stake, which is policy making authority over all Americans and it it is. It's. It's hard to argue that this particular institution auto habit
Amazon announces new gadgets at big hardware event
"Amazon's latest hardware in such today, Alexa Let's learn Mohr, Cnet's Jason Heiner is on the line. Hi, Jason. Hey, they haven't. So what else does Amazon want us to make room for in our homes now? Well, they changed a couple of things that introduced a new things. This is their fall hardware event that happened yesterday. There's always some surprises, and they didn't they didn't disappoint. This year There were a number of new things that will be announced a new cloud gaining scrimmage, so Using a controller that will connect directly to the cloud back to your any device, you'll be able to play on your fire TV and some other devices. They also announced a ring flying robot drone camera that will go around your house. And if there was anything you were gone, and you've got an alert from an alarm system or a call from a neighbor that something was going on, you could fly this little drug control with your phone and and check things out. Make sure nothing bad was happening. That was interesting. They also announced bring to the company that did the camp of the part of the Amazon that did. The flying camera also announced a new car alarm and a dash cam. So if you get pulled over by the police, you can say, you know, elect side being pulled over and it'll automatically start a camera so that if there was anything that happened with law enforcement That was inappropriate. It would be recorded so on and even a little mailbox said There's something small in that they announced yet today. Well, that's going to be this little center that will let you know when you've got mail or if someone you know is reaching into your mailbox when they shouldn't lots of new self of unexpected things and obviously knew stuff they updated their Amazon echo devices. They know what big cylinders that Sit on here, a little park that sits on your counter or bedside table. But now they are kind of little orbs here. A little balls were more future Look.
LSU faces unique challenges this season
"When you look at Lsu spots. I mean they've lost fifteen starters from lessees and Joe Borough first overall pick quarterback gone to March as their star wide out opted out he's gone the offensive and defensive coordinators are both gone having taken other jobs and just last week at ordure on said that most of the team had tested positive for covid and have apparently since recovered, not all herbal most of our players of it. So I think that hopefully, they don't catch it again and open enough a game. I just want to know when you watch Eddie order on on the sideline this season. Like what do you think you're gonna see what kind of Lsu experience are you going to get? It's going to be I think a rebuilding year that LSU'S GONNA be able to tolerate because one I. Don't think that they're going to backtrack entirely from a lot of the changes that made them. So successful last year Joe. quickfire chase has across the Middle Brits attack with the forty five baby gets to the far sideline twenty, fifty, ten high cut style taggers. College football is very in a lot of ways more scheme dependent. I think than even pro ball because everybody needs a relatively simple system that they can pick up pretty quickly and use interchangeable talent on. However this is my favorite thing when you go okay well, how many how much talent did they lose and I'm like, what did you see cloud Edwards the layer do for the chiefs he's reckon business town. Touchstone. Chance City what a night for the rookie clad layer upgrade. And you go. Oh, man where he was he was a Lsu and you go. Okay. Well, look the bengals almost one which is like a victory for any other team. And who was behind that? Well, Joe Borough as rookie turns out dude's pretty good for a time. Downfield Kat at the to by US. And he runs into the end zone for burroughs first NFL touchdown. You Go. Well that came from somewhere. Didn't it? Oh Yeah. It came from Lsu second be a step down. Yeah. It's absolutely going to be a step down. That is the best Lsu team that has ever played in Baton Rouge with their best quarterback and what I what I believe was their best running back and I don't think you're going to get anything close to that. However even if we come down a standard deviation, you still want me talking to nine or ten thirteen. You're just not going to get that kind of excelsior performance. You're just gonNA fall to like. acceptably excellent and probably lose to Alabama.
Why Buyers Behave The Way They Do
"Happy to be back with part three of college purchasing portfolio Matrix. If you've been following along then hopefully you have a high-level understanding of the framework wage. If not, don't worry check back on tips 6 or 1 and 6 or wait to get caught up for today's tip. We move to leverage items where items have a high profitability but a low risk factor buyers possess the balance of power in the relationship and leverage the strengths to obtain great value for their organizations. Myers just love to operate and leverage market for two reasons one. This is typically a commoditized market with an abundance of suppliers. So there is no risk for bias at all off to these items have a high Financial impact. So it's a great opportunity to show the added value that buyers have a typical example of this is Road transportation for a fast-moving consumer company. There are hundreds of suppliers of logistic services and typically transport represents a large chunk of their spent. as a result, you'll find buyers run requests for quotations or auctions to get the best prices in the market and in all fairness buyers can get away with this because if you don't play ball with someone else will so what does this mean for you as a sales professional? How do you deal with buyers in a leveraged Market fundamentally? There are two options here option one you focus on your own cost competitiveness. This means you accept the market you're in and you're looking for ways to be cheaper than your competitors by doing. So you would have the best chance of winning business option to walk you make your product or service unique by differentiating from your competitors you provide a product or service that nobody else can this way a buyer has to work with you because they say you have no other options. Be creative with what you can do, since it is never an easy step to take it might require a significant change in your proposition. That's it for understanding leverage markets offer. Happy negotiations everyone for more about
New York Yankees Fall As Toronto Blue Jays Clinch 1st Playoff Spot Since 2016
"Bluejays seeking to clinch a playoff spot with a win over the Yankees. Buffalo pitch. Is on the line. That's a fair ball of the left field line. Bridget turns the corner of third. He'll come into score hitting the bag. They're gonna try to score Guerrero. Here's the relay to the plate. The tag is down 19 time. Not in time. Guerrero slides in safely and the Blue Jays have a four day lead on a two run double. 100. Ward's net. 5 90, the fan of the Blue Jays into beating the Yankees, 4 to 1 clinch a playoff spot Indians
Amazon update: An indoor security drone! Round Echos!
"The show. Hey, it's Graham. You're listening to talking tech I, WanNa, fill you in on all those new products that Amazon introduced today, and unlike some of the other companies that come out with some new stuff and you say, like, how's it different? I don't understand. Well Gosh. Some of the stuff is pretty radical. Let's start with the ECHO speaker, which is now all-round. It looks totally different. There's a three new ones and they're all in the shape of the ball. You all know the ring video doorbell. Now there's GonNa be a ring security camera in your car. It's going to cost two hundred dollars. It will send you alerts via the ring APP. It senses a tempted break-ins drivers can get alive you and check in on the vehicle and surrounding areas. There's also a cheaper version without a camera selling for sixty dollars that will monitor for impacts, break INS, toes, and more but the ring product that I'm really intrigued about is called the always home cam it's an indoor drone. It flies all over the house to see what's going on. Okay Great I've flown a drone inside the house in it ain't easy. This drones GONNA fly automatically without. Presumably a controller it's going to sell for two hundred, fifty dollars. I can't wait to see how this one works. I am extremely sceptical, but if they pull it off great. All. The new ring products coming in twenty twenty one. Okay. Keeping with the radical there's a new echo show echo show of course, is the ECHO unit with a video display. This year is the ECHO show ten. You will come out later this year and it rotates it's on a rotating base as you use it for video calls, it will rotate with you as you move around the room that sounds kind of fun or it
Stolen Moments With Harold Sherrick
"Recoup here on the imbalance history of rock and roll Marcus how you doing not bad. How about yourself today? Well I'm doing good but I'm a little nervous because we're trying something different. Today we're going to combine an episode of five favorites with a studio gas well, not in the studio on zoom? Resuming. With Harold Cherokee, he's got a great book called stolen moments. How many years Herald were in La is a seem to time I was born in La so in La for sixty three years. Only been back here for three years moved back here three years ago. where. Were you living before? While I was living in the San Fernando Valley in Sherman Oaks. Dan Is area that you. which is just just over the hill to Hollywood, which is about fifteen minutes from where I live great place to be mad that close you know was wonderful. As a kid growing up there, where did you live and how did you first start plugging into the whole strip in the scene and everything that was going on there? I was born in L. A. Downtown La but then as a kid. Moved to Glendale California which is just right. Next door. They're nice sleepy little town and I basically grew up there went to high school there the whole bit and was there up until like nine hundred ninety and that I but I moved to the valley when I got married a second time and Just. been there all my life and. I was well connected when I was a kid started going to concerts when I was twelve. I concert was the Beatles. Hollywood ball no. That was all I. I went to the last la which was August. Twenty nineteen, sixty six and that was the Beatles Esta left. Day before the last one, which was candlestick. But that was my first concert. That right in the second row air right there. Six dollars? Ticket dollars can you actually hear the Beatles because? I HAVE THEM IN DC and said, the girls were screaming so loud that she couldn't hear the Beatles from where she was sitting in the stadium Yakking you know here and there it wasn't obviously crystal clear. You did have screamed grounding out of most of the time, but you could hear your somewhat mind blown dude, that's all I wanNA say or I'll deal mind-blowing. Well, that'll be a great entry into rock and roll life for anyone. And Talk to us a little bit about the book you were taking pictures around the L. A. Seen for quite a number of years in have some stunning captures in this book in all, it was going to concerts as a kid I used to play around with little Brownie camera when I was nine and ten years old and so eventually when I was able to graduate up to actually getting a decent camera which was. Like nineteen, Seventy, eight, seventy, nine, eighty at one. I really started pushing myself into the into the scene as best I could. It's all proven yourself in the beginning paying your dues you know you're not getting paid when you start out, it wasn't the solely for the money was the for the love of the whole thing. I always had a visual of capturing a great moment. You know whether it was in concert or meeting. Somebody in a hotel room that's what I started doing. Did you build a black and white dark room in your house? My father had a black and white dark room. Yeah. I didn't my house. I had a friend that helped me out a lot a couple of friends that end our rooms and I would bring my films as soon as I shot it the next morning I was there almost at the crack of dawn. We gotta get this process you know right away. That's awesome. You know would do the proof sheets and then big out of print I'd have sometimes I'd have to send something out right away most of the time in the beginning, it was just doing it and getting it done. So I could actually look at what I shot. That's all part of the beginning anyway trial and error is how you learn from a day to day thing you know 'cause I'm self taught I didn't go to school for it and I just I always wanted to do that. You know just take pictures because my father. Was, a newspaper man you were for hearst for the Herald, examiner in La A., and that's how I of got into it. When I was a kid was he would always take me down to the office I used to look at all the photos and the photo room with saga offers, and then I go to the pressroom and watch the paper roll off the presses at night with the greatest greatest experience you know the newspaper game sets how I got into want shoot black and white for falls. What was the first concert? You Shot Elvis Presley Whoa. Seventy six year before he died he he never he didn't come to L. A. and seventy-six closes. He came Long Beach Arena and I had tickets through a friend who is very well connected into Elvis and getting good tickets. So we had some really good seats and that time I think I'd be twenty five bucks to see John a few pictures. They didn't really come out that well. So that's why nothing has really been seen on that because I nothing came out that good at all.
Times Square New Year’s Eve organizers say event will go virtual, no crowd on scene
"No one will be allowed into Times Square on New Year's Eve to watch the ball drop this year. Yep, it's another casualty of the ongoing pandemic organizers of the annual event planning and virtually in hand celebration. Times Square Alliance is a very small group of in person. Honorees, who are social distance will be the on ly ones to witness the ball drop in person. More details about the virtual event will be released his December 31st draws closer.
New York Times Square New Year’s Eve Ball Drop Will Be Virtual
"Like a lot of other things in our lives. The iconic New Year's Eve celebration in New York City is going to look a little different this year. AP correspondent Oscar Wills Gabriel has thiss Details are still sketchy at this point, but organizers say the annual Times Square ball drop on New Year's Eve will have both really life and virtual elements like everything else. Since the Corona virus hit US shores. The year an event will be scaled down and socially distanced, a news release from organizer says there will be what they call an extremely limited group of people. Being honored in the usually packed stretch of midtown Manhattan. The event will honor essential workers and others who have made such a big difference fighting the pandemic this year.
New Year's Eve in Times Square incorporates virtual elements
"But plans for new year's eve officials in New York City certainly do but they likely won't include you details are still sketchy at this point but organizers say the annual Times Square ball drop on new year's eve we'll have both real life and virtual elements like everything else since the coronavirus hit U. S. shores the year end event will be scaled down and socially distance a news release from organizer says there will be what they call an extremely limited group of people being honored in the usually packed stretch of midtown Manhattan the event will honor a central workers and others who have made such a big difference fighting the pandemic this year I'm Oscar wells Gabriel
Times Square New Year’s Eve organizers say event will go virtual, no crowd on scene
"To the Big Apple New Year's Eve in Times Square is going to be a little different this year, organizers were gearing up for a celebration that will have to be scaled down and socially distanced in response to covert 19. People from all over the world converge on Times Square in the final moments of the year for this But like so much else due to Corona virus, this year's will be virtual. Officials say the ball will still drop. But for the first time in 114 years, there will be no crowds to cheer on the ball drop. They say Live entertainment will take place. But those plans are still being worked out.
New Year's Eve in Times Square to be scaled down
"Like the billboards won't be the only thing Digital in Times Square, this New Year's Eve. Times Square Alliance announced today that this year's ball drop will be a virtually enhanced version that will bring times square to you, no matter where you are, but it won't be completely virtual, The alliance says. There will be some live elements. They'll just be scaled back and socially distanced. There will also be an extremely limited group of in person honorees.
Shannon Sharpe reacts to Lakers GM 3 loss to Nuggets in Western Conference Finals
"III LOVES SIGHT THAT LOSS. From the Lakers and how about we break it down right now guys Lebron. What is third triple-double this postseason, but it wasn't enough against the nuggets. Last Night Denver led by twenty as late as the fourth quarter Lebron Ford in thirteen points in a last-ditch comeback at. Albury, finished with a team I twenty, eight, ten of which came in the fourth defend off Lebron the Lakers and hold on for the one fourteen to one. Oh, six Windsor Shannon. What is the biggest reason? The Lakers lost this one. They came out they came out and look like a team was to oh, and they just thought you know we don't come on here and do what we do and and not play hard and you could tell early on the nuggets were getting whatever they want. They drive laid up in the paint they you'll get to his dominant hand his right hand. Kiva phenomenal player. He's GonNa make shot skip that shot that he hit with the clock winding down on the right foot. I note most guys right handed shoot that shot Dirk Nowitzki made famous what he shot off his left leg I've never seen right hand guy shoot that shot up the up the wrong foot. I mean, 'cause we shoes tonight expected to go in everybody that's a bad shot clock winding up I expected to go in but I did not expect the Lakers to look this flat. We've haven't seen them even even against a Portland skip the first game even against the rockets the first game they didn't look this flat they I'm like broad do realize the western conference finals. you mentioned it a D. Two rebounds and they came in the last five minutes of the Game Hey deeply forty-three minutes. Avail one rebound white one rebuilt. If you tell me skill that the nuggets will out rebounded again by nineteen. If you tell me, they're going to turn the ball over the Lakers. I'm going to say the nuggets going to win the series, but I don't believe that I believe Lebron ad will play better I. Believe Lebron will be more aggressive because I thought the second the second in the third quarter. Eighty go it and it seemed like Lebron was designed to say you know what you gotta go hey, we're gonNA keep going. But skipped ahead, given up so much ground they had dug themselves. So much of a whole maybe if they don't allow get a eighteen twenty, maybe ten twelve now they can complete the comeback but I thought the Lakers played like a team that was looked. Like they didn't have they had a away game and if through this game away but what are the process what you've done if that you giving these guys confidence because now they think they can beat you they do they feel like Murray for sure thinks he can be yes and he's talking like He. SHOULD BE UP TWO GAMES TO ONE IS I've seen story before the thing is with this guy when he gets hot and. Those lash those last second shot because I saw him in game seven you remember the clock out of both have and he throwing up three's from twenty five from thirty feet and he switching. So he has confidence in their gaining companies but the problem that also has get, you can't have every guy that played for the nuggets with the exception of to a temp equal to or more free throws they Lebron James that tells. Me He's not getting he's not driving the ball. He's not aggressive enough or they're not calling it. So for me, that was the different. They just lacked intensity. They came out like a team that was too low and had the game to throw away I. Expect I know for certain and I'm going I, don't care I. don't care what the line he'll. I won't do on it right now you do I won't do right now.
Psychic vs. David C. Smalley
"Please join me in welcoming Michael Bodine. PODCAST Michael Jordan Myth Hey how you guys doing nice to hear you. We're doing all right as as good as twenty twenty will allow right now. Anyway. No. Kidding. It's been a weird year. Why didn't you guys worn us about this horsh did well I'm you know there are some people that did the psychics? Every psychic is different. You know like some psychics do world events and some people find your keys and you know some people. Talk to your dead relatives and and you know some people talked to. Your pets you know they all have different weird stuff and like there's the few you some of these world event people they were just like buzzing. You know they were. They were but still those are the kind of people hiding a basement with aluminum foil her don't get out much because they're so afraid of everything. So they're not the most communicative people in the planet but but they you know they they sit around and feel stuff. Let's GONNA come up. Next I would hate that I would just I would say that I have. For years you know people talked about twenty twenty, they talk about Oh. It's the end of the you know Mayan calendar and the ex you know it was kind of it was similar to the year two thousand except there wasn't the big tech freak out. Right? It was. The end of the world twenty twenty is this other thing and I think even. some I think Sylvia Brown even wrote something in her book about Twenty Twenty there being some sort of pandemic and. I thought that was really interesting because I never took her seriously but it's hard to take seriously but you know. She had a good magic eight ball I think. but everybody talked about it being this crazy thing and of course, you know skeptics like myself and a lot of people it was like, of course, that's nonsense. Of course there's nothing happening, and then right at the top of twenty twenty, we literally global pandemic and then it's just being after thing after thing, and now there's apparently an asteroid. Heading, right for us. It's going to pass. It's going to suck him earth. It might bounce off the Atlantic Ocean or something like. Jesus decided to skip rocks from heaven or something things. And, and it's going to happen. The day after election day or something and I'm depending on who wins I might welcome that damn thing. So. Yeah I mean at this point at this point I'm like, what else can twenty twenty do? I probably shouldn't say that out loud but Jeez, it's been crazy. It has been it has been crazy but you know the cool thing about it is that they're it's you know when when the whole darkness thing comes, it's it supposed to. Show the light you know it's supposed to show the light on people people supposed to shine stronger and the people that are supposed to come into play do because they're they're forced to do it. It's I. Mean I know it sucks in a lot of ways but a lot of people are doing things that they wouldn't have normally done because they're being forced to do it because they're they're being pushed. You know like the. Dark stuff is just saying, no, no, no, and they're fighting back not all of them but most of them, a lot of people are fighting back and they're they're of stand up for himself. So it's Kinda it's Kinda good in a way, but it's for a psychic sucks because the whole vibe of the country you can just feel it. You know you can feel it all the time and people are Kinda just they're just kinda. Down or they're anxious or there. There's this weird vibe and I live. Pretty close to. Where George Floyd got killed and so there's a lot of energy around here about all that stuff and. It's just it's just it's just an odd thing. But ever since I was a kid I grew up around psychics grew up around people that were trying to figure this stuff out and there's always there's always gonna be a year where that was it yesterday's news and I think there's been like five of them since I was a kid where that year we were all going to die and when I was a kid I kind of got scared but then you know after the second or third or fourth time and nothing happened just. Don't. Let it bother me like I used to because I don't really. I don't see an end at times. I'll die someday but I think I think it's really about learning how to overcome all of it as opposed to. As opposed to just giving in into it
AP-NORC poll: Views of economy stabilize as election nears
"Americans view the nation's economic situation is bleak, according to Ah, An Associated Press public. There's a new poll out this morning from AP that finds a rising percentage also see signs of stability. Speaker Pelosi since it's obviously not the story, hang on a second. Here's that Associated Press story. Most Americans still think the corona virus pandemic is crippling the US economy. But arising percentage also sees signs of stability. A recent survey by the Associated Press and a Marcy Center finds fewer Americans expect the economy to get worse in the next year. And so I see Bradley with them, not spastic. I would line it's not the way it was. It's getting better watch in March, a selection day fastly approaches partisan politics is driving different views of the economy, the new poll found. About two thirds of Republicans called the Economy good compared with just 16% of Democrats, but those balls Direction. I don't think we should We should fix the ball, and I think that's something that film is the best possible person close who pushes through I think I'll buy just loves to go along that was pardoned and make the other party look that's possibly I don't see that was our problems. But you can't live in fear land and say that we want to open the entire country. And that will be fine. So I'm I'm falling on the side of the Democrats as say. We've got to sell this following first and then open the country and then Allow those owners of businesses to open because they know that they keep their employees say. And the patients and customers say if Trump to win. I don't have any any confidence at all that anything will happen for years. If Biden wins, I have more think he'll step up. Oh, certainly Trust Machi, Redfield burgers and others that are in the know and follow the recommendations. Nathan Algren Associated Press. It
Is Drew Brees no longer the elite quarterback of the past
"Think it's time to sound the alarms on drew brees who was uncharacteristically erratic with his accuracy yesterday on top of of the week one game where he couldn't move the ball it's definitely too bad back to back weeks for drew brees. But I think this week them not having Michael Thomas out there I mean Alvin Kamara he's still look good but obviously, they need more than just him. He can't just be the Alvin Kamara show out there. So drew brees I. Think. Yeah. You have to be a little concerned at this that we're not seeing what we should be seeing out of him because Derek Carr put up the numbers that drew brees should have last night. It's another game where you know you look at breeze his average depth target is just over five yards, the vast majority, and this was obviously true with Michael Thomas to the vast majority of yardage that he's gaining is coming after the catch it's a different type of quarterback that they have to play around. Like Luke are my son, it became a saints fan a year ago, and my concern was like, well, you kind of jumped on this one a little late in the game had you been born earlier that might have been more profitable for you but he asked last night like is drew brees look so sad and I thought like like on a micro right like on a micro level it's because you're losing to the raiders on Monday night football and you're frustrated but like on a Matra level like the something in the is a breeze. Through me down the stretch like you can kind of get in the is well, you've seen this with Peyton manning to like in that last year and. First of all small sample size. Let's see what happens the true breeze but there are concerning distressing signals out there were seen it on the field and I thought that there was a look in the eyes of drew brees last night that sort of new something's changed here. It's not the end, but something's changed and heap maybe shares a little bit of the concern that we share because he had. You did and he. Does face. It makes me think about retirement. Remember he almost consider retirement. And players always say like once you think about it you're you're already you're already there. What did you see colleen last night? No. The same thing that's US did there was one shot in particular of through breezes face that he just you could see it was written all over his face. It was just pure dejection I. Guess to like He. He looked so sad in the moment time for that Viking funeral just put him on the wooden rafts now and push them out into the Gulf of Mexico start firing those arrows Taylor swift. They've got Winston. I Love Patras tweet where he said, we're like four weeks away from breeze coming down with a mysterious injury and Winston getting a little bit of a test drive. I mean listen that would be wild and I. Think our boy that boy wolf the number one saints fan on. Twitter pointed out that Winston had killer training camp, and and you know we also have, of course chastened Tatum Hill the twenty one, million dollar man who really has not been involved the offense too much through two weeks. Sean Payton is a guy that is if they continue to struggle you imagine it's going to be hard for him not to think about mixing things up or perhaps making a big change, but it still thinks I still feels a little premature especially the Michael Thomas. Out. Emmanuel Sanders had had a bad game yesterday. He's obviously not his straight he's in the. Chakwal Smith. IS THEIR NUMBER ONE RECEIVER So a lot of the states have a lot of work to do both in strategy and play and discipline. And now they got the packers. So that's going to be a games. Look forward to
"ball" Discussed on Red Ball
"So we have Adam in his friend. Adam says he sitting in the car because he knew something was going to go down and he said that his friend went inside side. The Dunkin donuts. Well it turns out that the friend used to date are eyewitness and moreover he was never in her story all those years before she said that no one was in the store. When Kramer confronted her about this in the eighties she tried to say the same gene thing then? They showed her a lineup of pictures. And we got these pictures you know. There are some people look from there. She always said the other guys that are autobiography narrowed it down to like six or twelve pictures. WanNa be one. Being Hoochie dated nope she had known about it. And what about him while he was in there right before I left then I said why are you just telling us it now because they were involved with some take time dope dealers and I was afraid that killed me. I mean those are pretty much our exact words as far as I know. She never retracted her statement about the two men near here the railroad tracks and she still stands by that story today. But it's strange right here. You have this Guy Adam who were expecting to kind of just right off because his story sounds so far fetched but then someone else connected to the case corroborates it even when a dozen do them any good to do so but what if there was no bearded guy and no clean-shaven guy would. This wasn't a robbery gone. Bad Kramer kept working the lead. You gotta work. Until they're dead ends now. Adam says he wasn't involved he just knew what was going to happen. So Kramer. Sm who was it that was involved and what happened. Adam names to guys but who he names is super super strange. Now it's the policy of the Indiana state police to never name persons of interest or suspects which is why we haven't named anyone so far so for the purposes of our episode. We're going to call the two guys that Adam named Tom and Jerry. And here's why it's so strange. that he he named them. Tom had been missing for six months by November. Nineteen seventy eight at the time. Tom and his girlfriend were last. Seen in June of nineteen seventy eight almost a year to the day after they were seen his girlfriend's body was discovered in a fifty five gallon drum outside Mooresville Indiana which is farther south and West than both Johnson County or speedway that. We've been talking about so far. Tom's body auty has never been discovered in the early days. They thought perhaps Tom Killed his girlfriend. But in present day without even a blip of Tom Tom ever on anyone's radar it's assumed he died too and his body has never been discovered. So why is he showing up. In this case people at the time who ran the same circles knew he was missing. It's a weird suspect. Two point two. But it wasn't just Adam who pointed to him Kramer or had heard his name come up years before Adam had come into the picture according to Kramer shortly after the murders a couple of girls who knew Jane Free Three said they'd seen Tom around specifically at Dairy Queen in Abe on one of the girls said that she remembered exactly when because she had just moved and signed a new lease now. This was way back when they didn't know if tom was dead or just skipping town so Kramer remembered this because he thought he could make an arrest. Ask for someone who had a warrant now. He wasn't able to locate tom dead but a year. Later in nineteen seventy nine. When Tom's girlfriend's body was miscount he went back to that same girl and she told me the story? Her version was last time I saw was I was is moving from one place to another. You know I was at the dairy queen that evening. Been Move and mocked up stuck his head in the winter I knew he was on the run run from police sometime but he told her I got a good hideout down south. Nobody's ever going to find. We took her drawing native and but it looked just like his mug picture. She said he used to cure knife in his boot. All the time and people keep saying he was just such a bad guy. Been in a lot of drywall. The He'd have been arrest rest by now. You don't have been arrested twice three times. The odds are probably dead but I went to the apartment complex that she talked about. I am now now. Everybody says it is dead and Jan.. When she was dead the day she move signed her lace was November fourth? Seventy two weeks worth Berge with. So what does this mean. The thing is I don't know I said before People's memories are a faulty. You're more likely to remember stuff if it happened during a big event in your life like moving. But we can't say for sure what I can say for sure for is that. Tom Never surfaced again on police's radar if he was hiding he found a damn good spot. Adam story is that Tom and Jerry loaded the kids into a van and they all drove off together so much changed in Adam story over the years but he consistently put himself close by and said that it was van that they all got loaded into a van. Shir made more sense than a Vega Kramer. Did you try to talk to the other person. Adam name the man that we're calling Jerry. I talked to him for ten fifteen minutes. I'm basically accused him of four murders. I dislike no the answer answer during the unmanned man he never said one word get inside and he didn't say you're wrong kid inside. They are Alabama some. Say a single word.
"ball" Discussed on Red Ball
"Around the same time of this press conference of a vigil was held for the family and friends of Mark. Jane Ruth and Danny some wonderful and caring citizens raised money to have a memorial erected for them in Leonard Park four trees one for each of them and a marble bench in the center commemorating their lives before going to the memorial. Sergeant Dalton thought it would be important and for me to actually see the places we've been talking about for the last week. The Burger Chef restaurant. The Dunkin donuts wear jeans car was found. It's important to the case. He said all of this tells us something about our suspects we. I went to the spot where Jane's car was found right off of Leonard Park in front of this little White House. I think it's despite when I hear. It was facing this way. Right her curse or the neighbors had poked her head up and had heard the car door slam and then but didn't realize the vehicle parked the If they recognize the bigger the neighborhood avai kid out of Vegas so so so the either this neighbor said when she heard the door slam she was watching the Johnny Carson show according to the Wiki page for the late show starring Johnny Carson. It was on from eleven thirty to one o'clock in the morning which fits into our known window but it doesn't offer much in the way of helping narrow down timeline. Dolton keeps driving as we discuss in more detail which path the driver would have taken from the restaurant to get to this spot. This would be the way. They're likely Jane's car was facing West. Meaning the most likely the route they would have taken would be turned right out of the restaurant parking lot. This is also the easiest as going left would require that you do a u-turn. Two more rights gets gets the car to exactly where police found it. which again is right by the park which is right by the police station? It seems unlikely that someone was incredibly for Miller with the area or parking. The car there doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And that's Mitch. If you're not familiar with an area always go the waking up with no shortcuts and things are not going to when you enter a movie theater it when it comes to everybody has to evacuate everybody will say so. We drove back to the Burger Chef restaurant and where at Dunkin donuts used to be and I was struck by two things up to this point. I'd only ever seen the scene from the street and aerial views on Google maps. I found it hard to I. Believe that the witnesses outside Dunkin donuts could see so much so clearly turn to us. That's the discount tobacco. My God so close so I'm kind of shocked at how much people matt like. I totally different views of two things. I thought the Dunkin donuts was really hard and I also Surprised at how are we drove for. Her car was left without their places to leave it in between here like there and they get it goes back a two why he asked why. And there's only so many different reasons. Why the one? You're you're taking to another car brought it back which I don't think I can. That's really so you wonder how you're going to see him. Talking on the hill we walked around the restaurant. And as we did for Sergeant Dalton points out the railroad tracks behind the restaurant where the two men were said to have come from and he takes me on the loop that the two witnesses would have walked looking for the clock. I keep coming back to Jane's car as we're walking and it's probably probably getting old to him by now but it's a piece of the puzzle that my mind just can't wrap around. Why take her car and not? Danny's Dolan says Thou Lindsey easy. Danny's car was on the side of the restaurant next to the Dunkin donuts. There were people inside. The store was still open. There were cars in the lot they would have been seen. James Car was blocked by the restaurant so they could get in it and drive away without anyone noticing. It makes sense to me but I just keep wondering why why we know that there are four young adults working we assume there's at least two assailants. That would be really hard to squeeze into a small Chevy Vega and I get if you arrived on foot and needed a getaway car when things are moving going fast. Things went wrong but they ditched it. Almost immediately. There had to be another vehicle that took took them all down to Johnson County. So where did the car fit in. We had to cut our walk around the scene. In short it was time to make our way over to the memorial. Family members of some of the victims came in from all over from the back of the crowd out. I just observed the small ceremony that they had and I was amazed at the range of emotions. And how each person had dealt with this tragedy in their own way. Some were still very angry. Some had found peace and ways to heal even in the face of knowing that they may never see answers or justice and N. others many were still just so very sad. It wasn't just family. Who came to the memorial? Though friends of the Victims Old Burger Chef Co workers even detectives who'd previously worked this case showed up to. I stood near Dalton in the back as he reconnected with a retired detective who I was introduced to his Jim. Cramer Cramer worked the case from nineteen seventy eight on through the eighties. He wasn't the first on the scene but he was is brought into the investigation very early on and he was one who talked with many of the suspects and witnesses and family members he knew what a beast this case was when it was fresh and when it was his full-time job along with a dozen others when Dole told him to this case was his now Kramer said something that's been stuck in my head for over for a year. He said they gave you a full time job and handed you a box of snakes to manage and it was the truth old as it was is this case is ever changing constantly moving. You can't work on it in a vacuum. It's being juggled constantly with active cases new tips jobs and the big problems that come with big cases. So where do you go when you've been given a full time job and a box of snakes to manage which you go to all the men. They came before. That's next time on Red Ball..
"ball" Discussed on Red Ball
"To see Sergeant Bill Dalton thank you. That was me making my first trip up to visit First Sergeant Bill Dalton at Indiana State police over a year ago to say I fell into. This story is will accurate but if feels like an understatement and I've been volunteering with crime stoppers Central Indiana for years now and begging them to give me one case any case to cover on a podcast. I wasn't looking for the biggest I or the oldest. I'm just as passionate about the ones. No one's heard of I used my first show crime junkie as a case. Study not to say that I'm capable of solving anything. I'M GONNA leave that it to the professionals but to show them that I can tell stories. That are hard to tell and I can get people to care about cases and victims. That might be long forgotten. Because is the public you listening right. Now you're powerful. Your interest in cases is what keeps stories alive. And it's what puts pressure on those who committed those those crimes. So they know you haven't gotten away with it. It is not over now. I didn't get a lot of traction in the first couple of years. I don't know if you know this this but the relationship between law enforcement and the media can be lucky and I was asking for something that had never been done at the time before this show. I was easy to criticize police for not working with media. Why not try something new? I'm pretty sure I could have literally been quoted as saying you know it's been forty years ears at this point. What do you have to lose but telling you the story now over a year later I get why the relationship is so strained and navigating those waters autres between police and the public and the media has become as much of a journey as covering the investigation of this case back in two thousand eighteen gene? I'd almost given up on the idea of working with the police completely. I had tried to start a lot smaller. I asked if I could just get an interview for a single episode of my other show crime junkie rather than doing a whole podcast together and I didn't hear anything right away so I thought it was a no until one day in April and it's one of of those memories that's seared into my brain feels like a just happened yesterday. I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing. I was riding along a busy road on the east side of Indianapolis when I got a call from an unknown number and I never answer unknown number so I'm not sure. Why did that day? But I pick up the phone. And and I heard the stern voice of an Indiana state police investigator and listen. I don't care how much you work with the police. Or what a perfect cookie. You might be in life if the police call all you unexpectedly in the middle of the day you automatically start trying to figure out what it is that you did wrong. But I was in the clear and to make a long story short art and mostly because I was so excited that I blacked out a little and I probably couldn't recount this to you in detail if I wanted to. The Indiana state police had recently promoted a new first sergeant in charge of Investigations Bill Dalton in addition to managing their active caseload and overseeing all of the detectives for the Indiana State Police Indianapolis List. He would also be managing cold cases and that year was the fortieth anniversary of Indianapolis as most notorious cold-case the burger chef murders. First Sergeant Dalton was going to be looking into the case again and the state police wanted to work with me to bring attention back to to the story. The story of what happened to four kids back in nineteen seventy eight after they were taken from their jobs at Burger Chef restaurant driven in about forty minutes away and killed in a rural area of Johnson County in many law enforcement agencies. They have a name for cases like this. The cases uses that rock a community and require all hands on deck the ones that will cause a media frenzy and often only leave fear and grief in their wake. They call all it a red ball over the next four episodes. I'm going to tell you the story of the Burger chef murders and what happened to ruth. Shelton Danny Davis Mark Flynn's and Jane freed in hopes that someone somewhere listening to this. podcast might hold the single piece of information needed needed to reinvigorate this case. But I WANNA be clear upfront on what you're going to get. I'M NOT GONNA dive deep into all the nitty gritty details or theories or named suspects vex. Those stories have been told. This story is about Ruth. Danny Merkin Jane but along with telling their story I'm also going to take you alongside inside the investigation a place. We Armchair detectives. Don't often get to see to show you the people who haven't given up on this cold case and what they're doing to try. Try and solve it. And what obstacles get in the way when detectives try to take a new approach at solving forty-one-year-old cold-case this this is right ball.
"ball" Discussed on Odd Ball
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"ball" Discussed on Odd Ball
"To make sense of all these rabbit holes I reached. He's talked to a couple of guys who also recently did a deep dive into the bets. Mysteries fear Scottsville Brook. Okay Lindsey starting to record session here and Forrest Burgess. I have our show script notes punched up in case you know. There's a question that I have to say. HOSA podcast astonishing legends. I thought it would be helpful to sort of compare notes. Talk through some of what I'm stuck on on their podcast. They basically look into stuff. They're interested in the paranormal weird. Science ought historical stories. Just we consider sitter everything every possibility going in but try not to settle on one before going in and discounting the others which you see a lot of times Especially official with people who studied this kind of thing. It's like well it can't be this you know it can't be this phanom. Yeah we roll it out. But on conversely with people who are open to while they're explanations we also don't rule out mundane explanations and sometimes we do an investigation and at the end of it. It seems like maybe it was much more mundane than the legends in the lower around. It would have you believe other times. We do investigation and at the end of it. It seems like it's the craziest thing I've ever heard in your life. They had this interview with an anonymous woman who they say is a member of the Betts family family although not Jerry and the source even says she was there when her family member found the ball having at first hand account. That's a lot of times we don't get a chance at getting thing because we're often talking about things that are hundreds of years old and everybody's dead so it's nice to. It's nice to be able to actually talk to somebody. Who was there? She backs up a lot of what we've heard before. Plus the Betts family knows where the ball is but no one in the family. Has it at their house. Because they've entrusted a third party with it for safekeeping being. She tells the story of Terri. The Guy who found the ball being flown home in separated from the ball she says the actually rolled up hill in front of a crowd and in all the footage was confiscated. She even says Dr Hynick told. The family of the ball was flown. It would have to be kept in a special cage so wouldn't interfere with a plane Nan. Lien told me this too. And she talked about those dead trees in the area where the ball was found saying what it was is. The tops were twisted and broken but most likely from a storm she says people who worked at the paper mill told her family. They'd never seen the ball like the bet says but there are also a few things she says. That are different that the ball stopped rolling rolling around an active weird after it came back from the UFO conference which is before Hind it came to the House Solo but she says when he came to the house. Jerry didn't give them permission mission. Take the ball into his room but rather she got up and Cottam with it doing tests. This person says the outside of the ball had very specific markings and that those are still on it so the ball may have not been switched but maybe it'd been tampered with or cut open at some point and again she says the new X.. Rays didn't match watch. Jerry thought finding has something to do with all this although I have him on tape saying the ball was just pretty ordinary perfectly normal metal fear but this source is saying after he spent time with the ball he told the family it was amazing and that he did think it may have been extraterrestrial. She said he took shavings from the ball and the atomic number. Did it make sense. She said he had his sights set on the ball. I ran the spy Clark the UFO expert new hynick and he says hynick. Just wasn't that strategic nick and then Hynix Son Paul your dad never publicly said it was extraterrestrial however the family founded ball said to them you know in private private very much did believe it was something more than that do you know. If does that sound like ham is up possible certainly possible. I think what what I heard my father say was always you know it's hard for someone to speak in definite terms. This is extraterrestrial for example I think it'd be more inclined line to say this is quite mysterious or I have. I've had a metallurgical analysis done of this and we can't place its origin things things like that So I don't know what he said but I can imagine that he would be a little bit looser and his verbiage with the you the people that are reported it then in public sure. This anonymous family member says her family new scientists Heineken. Harder very well. She's as maybe the ball with something dangerous from the military that was deactivated. But the family just wanted to know what it was and still does. Did you try to get your hands on the sphere and did did you find it weird if you did that. You weren't able to or that. They don't really want to tell anyone where it is. I mean that would kind of solve it right if we could get it and then calf someone examine it today. I don't know that it would solve any mysteries because and I don't think they necessarily are either at this point because it could have been swapped and New Orleans it could have even been swapped in the initial after the initial x Ray when it went to the navy. Although the family members were relatively convinced that if it was it it was nearly identical. It had all the same abrasions. The source said things just got really crazy with people showing up wanting to buy the ball. Nan had told me people were camping. On the bestest property this source said Jerry found out. Her phones had been tapped. The astonishing legends host. Both said they don't know what the ball is. Although they have have theories like maybe it was in development for some sort of military use and the project was never fully realized. Maybe it had a purpose when attached to other machinery like. Why would it's only function? Be Rolling around weirdly. You just can't say for sure because we don't have enough information about what's inside the ball but they don't believe if it was from the paper mill. I don't know if I can accept that theory either. It's still so weird to me that the ball was never or at least not publicly side-by-side compared to a ball all from the paper mill or with the sculptors metal balls. So I can't jump to those conclusions and as a reporter. I don't want to speculate. So what Louis do with this. Everybody wants to be able to wrap up in a package this assessment of the players. And the what they're saying and how it relates to the story. And you just don't always get to do that because it's it's sometimes it's just so complicated and so great and there's so many overlapping grey areas. That all you can do is just look at all the information. And then as forced likes to say sometimes live with the question.
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"The end says the family knows where the ball is. It's still around. They still have the ball that she feels like is not the ball but she doesn't know who has it. Someone close to Jerry who asked to remain anonymous tells me today. She isn't sure if it was swapped opt out or tampered with but the ball was never the same after all these investigators had their hands on it. We don't have proof. Hynick took the ball or tampered with it. And I WANNA make that clear bullets talk about how likely that could have been because if it was true it would make more sense as to why people may have been after it if it was something that says maybe shouldn't have had there's also this weird new detail. One of Hynix sons. Recently as in this here was quoted in his hometown newspaper saying growing up his family had a metal ball from Florida. UFO Case Quick Refresh Hynick was contracted by the Air Force to figure out explanations for UFO sightings after his work with the government he founded the center for Ufo studies or Macos near where he lived in Evanston Illinois. It's still around today. And it's not that old radio interview tape so Jerry Clark the UFO expert was on the centers board very small world the CFO community. What was hynick like? Oh he was he he was a wonderful bad. The always had a twinkle in his eye and a pipe in his mouth and he would just fun he. He was extremely smart and he was just sort of overwhelmed. Every living moment with you know scientific curiosity you said you knew him fairly while. I'm just trying to gauge. How much time you spent with him? Oh Man I don't know maybe seeing once every week or two okay Sometimes you know we were at as by we. I mean I and fellow Kufo officers or sometimes just myself Eddie's housing Evanston and I know his wife bombed same organization the same goal. I WanNa hear Clark things about these rumors that the sphere was different after hynick left the bet says or sometime around the national enquirer. UFO Conference. I've heard and read both and that Hynix Hynix supposedly had a similar ball in his home. The sphere apparently wasn't the same after word so they didn't know if tampered with it or switched it out or so. So do you know if he ever would you know swipe artifacts that he was interested in or ric try to recreate them or anything like that. Well L. Let me let me answer it this way. One thing that Allen really want want to push validation that he really hold before he died that he would have the proof that you have those exist this was really important to because he had taken a real hit from his colleagues he had been a prominent and respected astronomer until he went to the dark side and so it was very important morality. Find validation so he wasn't above above quietly grabbing document of the official files which he's going to be burnt or otherwise lies discarded. You know I don't mean highly classified documents Ellen had high security classification and he took it very seriously but there was a lot of stuff that was would have been interesting to somebody researching Ya foes that to the people around Allen when he was working being in an official capacity. which just junk? And if there was this fear in the house which I never saw I was in that house on a number of cajuns and was is never mentioned to me and I never saw anything like that but it would have been in in the context of just picking up something that otherwise otherwise would have been discarded. He didn't even necessarily have to think that it was important in the context of documenting. The business of your foes. It's he did think that there is something to the sphere that you would have no not yes yes I think would have been known to us at Kufo in a little bit and important item. He said the center published a Scientific Journal and he believes is Hynix. Had this fear it would have been handed over to their scientists and that never happened. I reached out to the center myself and heard back from its current director. He said the best fear was ultimately found to not be anything alien or paranormal and he attached the nightcap report. We dived into last episode which concludes the thing is probably from the paper mill. I also reached out to a woman named Jimmy's Admin one of Hynix old colleagues and close friends. She emailed me that. She's not familiar with the Bali described either. So what was hynix son talking about growing up with a metal sphere from a Florida. UFO Case Or. Here's what I know about that after. The break oddball is made possible possible by supporters of W. J. C. 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And what it was like growing up with a dad really into UFO's and this is the very last quote the story I found out recently. That a big silver sphere we had was from some famous UFO case in Florida. We just kick it around on the floor because we didn't know what it was. What's so get him on the phone and rather than lead with the alleged ball theft? I asked him. What was your dad like people park about him? You know changing from being a sceptic to a believer. I don't think believers really a good word for science. I think he became an accept her That he accepted that there was a phenomenon He felt very strongly that you should keep your eyes. Open your mind open when confronted with. That's what maybe a new phenomenon but then also to not close your mind to quickly just availing yourself of the best answer that you have handy because the answer may be more difficult and you need to be comfortable with questions that you can't answer which is a large part of science? So you no. He became convinced Within a few years that there was something going on because he and the air force couldn't explain all these cases and if you look at Project Blue Book's officials stats or some twelve thousand cases that they investigated and over seven hundred. They couldn't explain. And this is with a clear mandate as As we see in the show to explain them all the way and yet they still couldn't do his work with the air force. It seemed your dad. Maybe disagreed with some of their public conclusions. About the the cases my father felt that the air force has job isn't science it's national security. But while he was there yes it was there was friction. I and frustration. He said Project Blue Book turned into more of a public relations. Exercise to tamp down hysteria but he felt that his ability to help collect the information mation and guide how it's collected and recorded was very valuable for his later analysis and discussion. Okay okay. I won't keep you waiting anymore. What about this this Florida Ball in his house? Well here's what I know about that I spoke On a panel at Alien Con in Pasadena Last year in the summer and a woman came up to me after the panel and showed me a newspaper clipping with a picture of a sphere and said. Do you know anything about this case and I said you know I. I haven't heard about this case. But we had a big metallic sphere in our basement for years and my brother and I had no idea where it came from and we were just sort of kick it around the floor. It was like it was larger than a basketball and it was this big metallic sphere and we had no idea where it came from. And so I've mentioned this to the woman and then ten minutes later. After googling on our phone she came back and she said I think your father took possession of that spirit So I can't confirm or deny if this fear we saw was from that case but I do know that that woman who's very excited and that we had as we were in our house and you didn't say where it was from ever no okay because we we had so many anything that It was just sort of became normal. I you know we had a a this artistic rendering of Travis Walton being zapped by UFO Afoul On the wall laundry room as you SORTA come plays for us yeah as one does and Christmas ornaments that were. UFO's on the tree and things rough. Well Yeah I so. I've read that you said that. A recent article in their comments. Like maybe it's the bets fear and And then I also also know that in the show there is a plot point where your dad takes one of the artifacts and I was like is that based on a real occurrence. Yes are you. Are you insinuating Lindsey the Mesh. UH-HUH KLEPTOMANIAC I. Not necessarily but yes that is so. There's a cult.
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"After talking to Jerry Clark and all these scientists I'd adopted this attitude too and this is my mindset said as I go into a next chat with Nan the magazine editor who profile Jerry Bats a couple years ago she had been talking with Jerry. She said she'd ask her again on my behalf. If there's anyway should consider talking for this podcast injuries. Most recent email to Nan. She was really short. It was just a couple of sentences and then she ended it with. I wish you and your family the the best man says she feels Jerry's kind of blowing her off. It does sound like that so when I talked in the end she was racking my brain thinking. Say something wrong do something to to upset her and she even followed up with an apology. Jerry I took that for what it seemed to be with his. You know I'm just not really interested in engaging I don't I don't blame her. I and one of respect your privacy and away like I feel like her last. Email is definitely Her trying to establish a boundary from our previous exchanges. And so. Yeah I just wanted to kind of let it settle wrote a while. And then mulling over and I do. I want to see you know what's up to just speak with her again Yeah no it's a bummer. For sure and al I feel like I blew it. No I called on her cell instead of having your swing by the studio for better quality sound because I thought this would be the extent of our conversation. Just just a little check in but we end up talking for forty five minutes. I filler in about a lot of my research and conversations with Leo sprinkle the scientists on the UFO panel. Who doesn't remember the sphere at all that kind of like pleading the fifth or something in the conversation I had with UFO expert? Clark where he basically says no one in the UFO community. Did he cared about this ball. It was nothing special. Nan says yeah but the government does all kinds of secret stuff and think about who jerry is. There is no me for her to kind of create this fiction around this object. You know This is something Yeah I personally only think with the family something happened during that time period. That scared warmly interested in just like that. I'm back again. Not sure what to believe remembering Nance conversations with Jerry and all these weird things that happened with the ball some. I haven't even shared with you yet until now the second person who has a direct relationship with Jerry to tell me Allen Hynek from the UFO panel came to Jerry's house to examine the ball yes so Hynek reached out. He wanted them to come to Chicago. She said no you. You know if you want to see this. Fear not to come to us. So he came and she said that he was just a delightful people person. They enjoyed their time together. I'm use only there for a couple of days He asked if he could If if he could you know bring the spiritus his bedroom overnight And she didn't really see any harm in that She trusted him. He was a government scientist. You know With a you know very I don reputation and I think Jerry just wanted to know what it was like. That was her whole mission behind. All of this was just to find out what this thing was so he spent the night with fit and then he left the next day. She said that he came carrying a what she described as like an old fashioned doctor's bag So like one of those leather large arch leather sacks. I think she assumed it was full of tools or closer whatever Then he left sometime after this neon says is Jerry told her she took the ball to be x-rayed again because the ball had stopped rolling around in vibrating. At this point I think she felt like there was something different about it and and she wanted to be sure And she she was really surprised when the x rays came back doc and they were different from the original ones that she had Had done prior to Dr High Net coming and did you did. She say what was different about She did she said that they were. They were seems they were actual seems on the spear where in the original xrays. There awareness seems of the Australian side. She didn't okay typically serve different. Yeah I found an article in which Jerry actually addresses this the the data cut off. But it's definitely later on. She explains a lot of people are after the bomb she had to have a guy ordered off her property. Some firm offered her seven hundred and fifty grand the ball. Then she says she had the ball x-rayed again and these did not match the navy's xrays. The vets fear had three little balls inside to look perfectly quickly round and the third is bigger and not so round. There's a little line coming from it which she calls an antenna she says. That ball was now pulverized. I can't even prove now. It's the same one we originally had. She said she was just furious. And then she. I think that that anger change changed to kind of the revelation that whatever the sphere was the government did not want her to find out the not want her to know Oh and she decided in that moment to burn those xrays she did not feel comfortable with any sort of proof of that information.
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"This is Nan the editor who profiled Jerry Gary and I post magazine so you talk to Jerry on Monday Dad I call. I tracked down her info and gave her a call and I forgot forgot. I forgot what a wonderful eloquent woman she is. You know. She's just remarkable and she was really happy to to hear from me She really enjoyed the article. I hadn't spoken to her since we did. Article in two thousand sixteen. Nan mentioned Jerry. This fear had come up a recent news article and Jerry just started talking and for thirty minutes just totally went back in time and just recalled all these details from that that period of time including including the ball being taken to this blue ribbon panel of UFO investigators somewhere in that window of time. Someone who's organizing the panel told her son and that his mother I've been calling and needed him to return home so he called her and tried to get a hold of her but could not The bets it's his phone has been ringing off the hook for for weeks since this whole thing kind of blew right. The national enquirer flew them. There's a plane weaning for them and flew you them back to Florida while they arrive at a private plane and when they arrived. Jerry was like what are you guys doing here. And they're like thank you. You know they said that you were trying to get a hold of us. And she's like no Nanan Dick's versions are slightly different. Man was under the impression Terry went directly to New Orleans but Dick in the newspapers say he was first flown to south Florida. And that's where he separated from the ball but either way allegedly terry is separated from the ball which winds up in New Orleans at this panel. That part of the story lanes up they go back and they request copies of everything they've done and all the whatever information about what they've been doing doing to the spirit in that window of time they were gone. Scientists were not willing to share any of that so in the middle of this panel. Terry Bats just a stands up. Takes the sphere walks out and leaves. It's his car and takes off back to Florida and Cherry was like I don't think any of them were expecting acting him to do that. It was very abrupt that she share if they ever got to the bottom of who was behind this weird sick call now. I mean she felt like it was someone I was someone involved with that panel of the five panelists. The majority have passed away. Paul W. J. C. T. This is lindsay but I was able to get in touch with Leo sprinkle the psychologist I enjoyed my work on the panel. But what I really enjoyed Loyd was getting to meet so many interesting people who had described their experiences. He says the panel is active between one thousand. Nine hundred seventy two and seventy nine fine. And probably the reason it existed was to increase sales of national enquirer papers but he and his colleagues were real scientists and did real work looking into lots of claims teams at the time the price for anyone who could prove extraterrestrial existence would win a fifty grand. The buttons didn't want any cash it was nineteen seventy four four in the panel looked at the vets. Fear and New Orleans. Do you have any recollection of that specific. Object I'm sorry I don't I'm sure it was important at the time but my memory is fault is I don't I don't recall. Can you tell me a little bit more was it was a large urge sphere or a hand held or so. It was a metal while the navy sided with stainless steel. They had looked at it before the panel and it was told him about the vibrating. braiding the rolling and even more out there allegations like Terry allegedly being separated from the ball. And it's rolling up hill just before heading to the conference. I mean does any of that ring. A bell is a beautiful case and I'm sorry that I can't contribute anything to. He repeatedly tells me his memory. Just isn't isn't what it used to be that this doesn't mean the ball didn't do anything remarkable but no he doesn't remember it. Forty five years was a longtime ago. Do you think he's had rolled up hill in this way that that that's something you would have remembered I I would think okay you know I used to pride myself on memory to and I. I'm sorry I just don't recall about the experience.
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It's also recorded live in front of an audience. There are fascinating Lee Macabre and sometimes funny tales performed by a stock doc. Company of gifted voice actors an improvised musical score. Rich sound design songs sung by some of the best talent around and other surprises waiting for you with each exciting episode. Find fireside mystery theater on your favorite podcast player and be sure to mind the shadows at the time I'm the sphere was discovered the early seventies the government was taking UFO claims vary seriously has reports of sightings were pouring in from across the country. They come from another world spawned in the light years of space unleashed to take over the bodies and souls of the people of our planet bringing this sweetheart she married. The man she had loved was merely the hollow Shell for the invaders from outer space. I have a reputation as you know a calm and reasoned sophisticated. Invoice Sunday's controversial contentious subject. Jerry Clark knows a lot about this. Because he's written three editions of a multi volume UFO encyclopaedia kind of considered the definitive reference work on the subject and wanted number of awards. You know there's there's a background noise of if you are for reports just goes on and on and every once in a while a roped into what we call a wave and then the wave actually makes it into the Eh not just the local press but the national even international press and then interest goes up I would say that in terms supposed interest the fifties sixties where the height popular interest the height of scientific interest was probably the the nineteenth seventies. These was it your life work to be researching this or did you also have another career kind of ended up taking over my life. They would just through just not by design. But that's what happened. The only time that I I I is drawing an actual paycheck for an extended. Period of time was worked for fate magazine in Chicago and that was kind of a paranormal or normal monthly pulp magazine. And I was associate editor senior editor the magazine for between the mid seventy seventies in the end of the nineteen eighties. And so I'm I'm living testimony that there's no money in your foes the jury says the modern UFO phenomenon really started the summer of nineteen forty seven after a pilot reported seeing a group of disc shaped objects flying in the sky at high speed other citing soon followed in just a few months after the airforce started an official program called project sign line looking into the claims and project sign was the one time that the air force was actually co at least on on the love on the level of of the investigators say the lieutenants and captains and staff sergeants. who were looking into the sightings? They became convinced that these things weren't ours. They weren't Soviet in origin so they must be from another planet and In about September timber nineteen forty eight. They sent From project sign which was located at Wright field in Dayton Ohio. They sent a estimate of the situation up to the joint chiefs that said that the best explanation was visitors from outer space race coming to Earth. And that's what was behind these flying disc reports. The joint chiefs shot that down immediately and demanded that all copies of the estimate be burned so that there was no reference to any possibility that for a second the US the US government had to consider the possibility of extraterrestrial visitation possibility and in fact for years afterwards the air force even denied that this this estimate situation ever existed but it did exist and event city air force had to admit it project sign eventually turned into project grudge which turned into project blue book the most well known of the three the goal of them quickly evolved into attaching logical explanations chance to UFO sightings. I'm here to discuss the so-called flying saucers airforce interest in this problem due to our feeling of an obligation to identify and analyze the best of our ability. Anything in the air that may have the possibility of threat or menace to the United States. This is from a news conference in Nineteen Fifty Two air force intelligence director Major General. Donald John Sanford is talking. We have received an analyze between one and two thousand reports that come to us from all kinds of sources. aww It's great massive reports we have been able adequately to explain the great book of them. Explain the scientific consulted. They Hired to do that. Explaining was J Allen Hynek a professor of astronomy and UFO skeptic. He was the guy that was brought on early on like in the late forties to look at reports that might have an astronomical explanation and he he was the nearest astronomer to Dayton Ohio Ohio he was at Ohio State University at the time and And then high net got sucked into it in for for for pretty much much the next decade and a half pretty much. He echoed here force line even though privately he was having growing doubts that this was a productive approach and but sometimes voice them privately or even publicly but he didn't come out as a as an actual active UFO proponent until the mid nineteen sixties and then he immediately became the most famous UFO proponent in the World Project Blue Book closed down in nineteen. sixty-nine behind it went on to start the center for UFO studies to keep investigating claims including the bath sphere. See this all ties in the national enquirer had assembled a team of five scientists a blue ribbon panel of UFO investigators. It was offering a cash prize to anyone who produced a UFO. The panel happened to be meeting at a New Orleans conference in late April of seventy four the best ball I made headlines in mid-april so naturally they went ahead and took a look at it. The panelists were hynick an astronomer. Robert Creggan professor of Philosophy Leo sprinkle psychologist. Frank Salisbury a plant physiologist in James Harder order a civil engineer. Six days after the ball's initial headlines A south Florida newspaper reported that Jerry said her son Terry who found the ball with picked up by private plane and taken to the national enquirers offices in Lantana Florida. A pit. Stop before heading to New Orleans for the conference. The following day at Tampa newspaper published a story about the balls time at the headquarters their employees nicknamed the ball Edward and kept it in a safe then on a table on the national enquirers lawn. The ball rolled on its own slowly around a table. That was not quite level even rolling over the uphill portion with no apparent de the article. States this no attribution. So it's not clear if the reporter witnessed it or if they were told about it and remember according according to that Guy Dick Jerry's I spoke to an episode. One things got even weirder here. Jury sent Terry and Robin Her. Two sons the fly down there with it and they were going to fly back with it well after a day or so. The people sent the two boys back. I kept the ball and That I don't think that was the way it was supposed to work with us. What happened but they finally got the ball back? We had that conversation in two thousand seventeen in two years later On on me find my notes because remember.
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"I started reporting the story and also just within the last few months other podcasters youtubers and bloggers have published their own research and thoughts about the Beth's VR but one in particular by the podcast. Astonishing legends came out during the peak. He could my research which led to sort of a mid series crisis. Okay I think it was Friday. It was put on my radar. Different podcast Basically did the same story. I'm working on which is a major major Gut Punch and I know I mentioned to you earlier in the week but I was definitely considering just dropping it but I don't know do you think that still should be something to consider or do you think that we're kind of making enough headway. Where this is GonNa be good on its own? I think I think we should go. Go with it. I I totally feel like we should go with it. I just feel like the the way that is going. That'd be presented is going to be great. Yeah not even think. I know it's weird to listen back to this because I was so close to quitting this project. All I needed was a nudge in that direction. Now I definitely don't feel that way but I couldn't ignore this other podcast so I instead called up the host who are super cool and nice and I talked to them about their our findings which I'll have a little later but one interesting tidbit. I gathered from the research is relevant to what I'm about to get into an anonymous source. WHO said she's a bets family member? Although not Jerry told us podcast hosts a more exact location of where the ball was found. We really only knew it was found somewhere in the woods on the buses acres and acres of property. Assuming she's telling the truth. That's helpful information because it pertains to the most prolific theory said to totally debunk the mystery of the ball that rolled off the roof of a man's VW bus. A Volkswagen is a nice station. Wagon have around the house. It'll see your whole family comfortably. Average each twenty three miles to a gallon of regular and hold on a guy named James Stirling Jones who was an artist and hotel manager and towels New Mexico had acquired a bunch of metal balls. WHO's planning to use in a sculpture of a giant clock? One of those balls was sitting outside the hotel a couple of weeks after the news broke of the best discovery. The Coca Cola man saw and freaked out because it looked so similar James Stirling Jones told the Florida Times Union. He was actually driving through Jacksonville around Easter of Nineteen seventy-one. That's almost exactly three years. Before the bets ball was found the bus was crammed full so he stuck fears up in a luggage carrier on his roof and he lost last three or four them while driving through the south. One article is even paired with the cartoon of a man driving a Volkswagen. Bus Balls flying out of it and his speech bubble reading. If if I can spread a few more of these things around the state I can make wells war of the worlds look like a tea party. So is this the best explanation. Brian Dunning. who host the skept toyed podcast different than the podcast? I just spoke about thought so when I talked to him a couple of years ago his podcast looks different theories and legends people believe and Where there's more interesting science behind? What's actually going on and that can be anything like a a paranormal phenomenon? A An alternative medicine awesome belief a conspiracy theory the whole spectrum of weird things that people believe is just incredibly wealthy and twenty twelve if he released an episode on the Beth's fear when I heard about this initially my thought was oh. Well that sounds like a like a bladder tank from spacecraft because occasionally those do fall out of the sky and people in strange places. Find this weird metal sphere and they don't know what it is. He he ruled that out because the type of Tinky was thinking of would be larger habitats for valves So I had a couple of possible explanations in my mind like that but then you go and you read about what was reported all of these strange properties that the ball had and I've done enough stories like this to know that Reports sports are not always accurate that these stories tends to grow over time substantially and. That's exactly what happened in this case as well. His main method of research who Newspaper reports largely For for doing what I do when you're trying to go back. So far. In history and in some cases hundreds of years a a contemporary newspaper reports are often one of the best most reliable sources Because those reports usually came from the day that had happened. There hasn't been any chances yet for anyone to magnify the story. He thinks that magnification is what's happened with this ball story. Most of the more recent blog posts in youtube youtube videos focused on the more outrageous claims like that. The Spirit Self played organ music when according to Sandy's article the weird stuff of the house predated the ball or that the scientists found the ball with made out of elements heavier than anything known to science which I found the sourcing on that to be somewhat questionable. And we're going to get really deep into the science a little later but I'm saying this now to point out I get. Brian is coming from he points to the Navy's findings that the ball was made out of stainless steel. Four thirty one. That's a common industrial steel bill. And it's probably not likely to be something that aliens would use so we can be pretty sure metallurgically that it's something from from some industrial plant right here on earth. And he wasn't too fixated on the witnesses claims of the ball's rolling things like this. They're they're anecdotes Which means evidence that we can't test or verify it's an elvis sighting? You know when you when you hear of an Elvis sighting. We don't conclude that. Oh therefore someone reported seeing Elvis therefore Elvis's definitely still alive and this person actually saw them. There's no other possible explanation. Well no it's far more likely that this person was simply mistaken. So this when you hear an anecdote about the ball was rolling around on its own and people who went there said Oh they're floor was really uneven. Even anything you put on it's GonNa roll around. There's these places called mystery spots these little tourist attractions all around the world where balls seemed to roll uphill. Cars has seemed to drive up the hill by themselves. Things stick to the wall and those are simply optical illusions and it's perfectly reasonable because the number of people who go through those little tourist attractions and come out convinced that the best family could have been equally mistaken about the reason. The ball was rolling around even though the floor look flat to them which brings us back to. The theory settled on this ball full from artists. James Durling Jones's V. W. bus. It was an industrial ball valve ball. Check south that is made of stainless steel four. Thirty one. Exactly like the bets mystery sphere and it is known to have been and deposited in the area some years before the Betts family found it so once we have all those little strings tied together I'm satisfied that It's the best explanation anyone's put forward and I. I think it should be the default theory the no hypothesis The artist wouldn't confirm the origin of the balls to reporters back in the day. Because they were maybe sort of kind of stolen he said. I can't tell you where I got them because I'd get in trouble but I'll tell you this they're not from outer space. said the balls were perfect. Otherwise they'd be worth several thousand dollars to the company about meet them and if you told reporters the company they'd want him back then he said they weren't stolen but that it would cost us friends job he did see. The spheres were intended as part of an industrial valve. Like the kind used high pressure transmission lines some reports. Say the Beth sphere had the small smoothed over plug in its side and this artist described his fears having welded over plugs. Which I assume just means patched up holes? He told her reporter. Those plugs were an attempt to smooth a surface left flawed by the sphere grinder. So I ran this by that higher up. This fear manufacturing company. I spoke with earlier. And he said normally if there's a defect ball like a flat spot or something they wouldn't try to fix fix it and then sell that ball and actually talked to a few different engineers who work with metal balls for a living about why one might have a whole leader welded closed and none new a reason for it but one guy said he actually sees balls come from China with single holes in them and sometimes customers will ask his company to well them smooth but most of the engineers said metabolic bets is could be used in factories to stopping allow fluids which happens with industrial valves like the kind. The artist says his ball was intended attended for. I was able to track down the artists through his daughter Sabrina. She's actually pictured in Santa Fe newspaper article kneeling alongside or Dad. Each of from touching a sphere. She looks about three or four years old but when I spoke in February she said her dad is really private and wouldn't give me his contact information and unfortunately we did not respond to my many many emails. She said she ran by him even after he just e mailed me responses and center questions to relate to him nothing I wanted to know. Where did you get these balls from? What area of Jacksonville were you driving through? Did your spheres ever follow people around. How could a twenty the pound metal ball? Just fly off your boss. Why didn't you stop and retrieve them? And did you ever get around to making that giant clock.
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"WJC Public Media This is episode two of oddball. I'm Lindsay kilbride. One of my listeners. Called up you said Ron. Have you heard about this thing that they found said okay. Well I'll check it out the they weren't sitting on a glass top table and the ball rolled from the center of the table. All the way to do you have any theories as to what the wiping I take that really do you remember dot saying that he personally witnessed yes author and they weren't sure they got the right ballpark people will say you're crazy or this or that which she has not. I left off talking with pets. Family Friend Dick Burnett and his living room. which is the bottom jaw of a woolly? Mammoth right here about his memories of the oddball and is more recent conversations with Jerry Matriarch of the bets household. Dick skimmed over some weird details about several UFO investigators looking at the ball and the Navy's involvement. The navy investigated the ball just days after a made headlines in April nineteen seventy four. I haven't had any luck. Getting the official official report but newspaper say they had two weeks to investigate the ball and determined it was from Earth because it was made of super common stainless steel. And that's despite the witnesses and families account of its odd behavior vibrating and seeming to move around of its own volition. Jerry says something mysterious was going on with the officer in charge Asia for turning the ball and he wanted to take it back but she said No. I have to say going into this. I personally find it highly. Unlikely the balls anything magical cool or extraterrestrial and I totally believe a life beyond earth as possible even likely but I'm still coming into this really skeptical if this was something truly astounding. What are the navy have just said it was government property something classified you not give Jerry the option of taking it back? I don't know but everyone I've spoken to. Who knows Jerry? Says she's smart. Well respected in honest so I wanted wanted to know more about that. Who is Jerry? is she the kind of person who had either makeup where things about the ball or imagine them. She's a pretty extraordinary woman who has an amazing history. That people probably don't know you. Okay Man. Cavanaugh is the former editor of First Coast magazine. Zine which profiled Jerry Butts and twenty sixteen it took me a long time to track her down I think after the bets Sphere she and her family family the over the past few decades they've just been an undated with UFO enthusiasts trying to track them down that the kind of gone into hiding in a way. So Tommy about your journey getting in touch with her and how she came on your radar as someone you wanted to interview. There was a gentleman who lived on the north side of Jacksonville. All who fancied himself as a kind of local hobby historian and he He's the type of guy who writes letters to the newspaper all the time really long long intense letters and so we're familiar with. I was familiar with him so he would. Just call me Me Like every I dunno three months every six six months with like some story ideas I had asked him when one of our conversations. You know we're doing you know doing October issue. We like to focus on the supernatural. Well do you have any good stories. And that's when he said. Oh you should do something et sphere. So then I went into the archive of the Times Union And found around the file and the stories on it and googled it online. I was like wow. This is a supernatural occurrence. That people are still really like fixated on and cancels like this is great And then like okay. Well let's try to find the Betts family and so I began that process and it was more challenging than I expected. Because Jerry Had such prominent you know she was a prominent figure In the seventies and Sixty S seventy S. She's not kidding. Remember how he said. The newspaper had this thick archive of articles related to the sphere. That same folder includes twenty four articles. Just on Jerry. Most of them predating the balls discovery. People around here knew who she was. It also includes a stack of photos photos of Jerry. She's petite with Brunette hair cut short or pulled back when she sat for portraits. My favorite photo of her is this one where she looks really young long. Her hair is pulled back in a low ponytail and she's got some Frizzy flyaways because Florida but she's candidly laughing. While trying to composer self for the portrait. I just like business. Owner their family are large landowners in the area. She was very active. You've in local politics. Lots of coverage is about her fighting the city over. Its buying a private bus company. She argued it would obligate the city to high cost without voters. Having say she led an effort collecting signatures to have the city council members removed who supported the purchase. Then she was a plaintiff's Tiffany State Supreme Court case over the matter. One article spotlighted Jerry for refusing to answer questions posed by city lawyers about her research into the private bus companies finances says saying she would not disclose her source even if it meant jail other articles alleged city council members may have been retaliating against her over the matter. Then there's her run for soil and Water Board her demonstrating for higher pay for police and her run for a State House seat although she didn't win so I was kind of surprised when I started trying to find them through just normal means of searches That I was unable to really find Find any real information contact information like no social media accounts nothing that could really see an eventually track them down through tax records. got a hold of one of her nieces. Who when I uncalled Hershey Ms Very suspicious of about me calling and I quickly realized is that if I was going to ask the family anything about the bat sphere was not going to get anywhere with the family so realizing through my research. Jerry's a person as we'll shift gears early. There's a nature preserve name for them and the other four. George area is the large piece of land that they donated the bats tiger point preserve and they've done it in a lot of land to the state for preservation. One of the magazine were trying to do. Is that kind of highlight unknown and untold histories. So it's like you know what people go to this. Go to this park all the time. They use the ramp probably annoyed. You the family is so let's do a story on Jerry and celebrate the work she did and When amazing business person she was to acquire that land and the vision she had in her choice to preserve it so that was the story that I pitched the family and that was the story that they finally? We're like okay. Okay like we'll share Jerry's phone number with you reporter Karen Burmeister wrote that story in twenty sixteen titled Gutsy in gifted the Amazing Jerry. Betsy Jackson the deal a story about Jerry's life and work no mention of the ball allowed. She's she's truly a self made aide woman because she grew up in such poverty and on a farm in south Georgia and she was one of fourteen children. Her parents her mom died first and then her father died. I think a few years later she was quite young. I want to say maybe around ten eleven twelve when they died and so a she took care of her younger siblings. And you know. They had no electricity. No running water they had to bring in. Pails of water are from a well. That was somewhere on the property and She was born with a talent for taking care the people and helping people. She has a big heart. It sounds like she's pretty resourceful to sort of working with what she had. Oh my gosh yeah. She got married early. Eighty and I think the it wasn't a really successful marriage and the husband was falling behind in his payments for this truck with a trailer behind it and was about to go into default. I think she saw that. That could be developed into a successful business in nineteen sixty five. Her business success was featured in the newspaper Jacksonville. Mother of six built trucking line from one repossession. She was thirty two at the time. I'm thirty two raising six kids. It describes her as an attractive Brunette with dark hair. Glamour White Teeth and I cannot believe. I'm saying this the figure of a schoolgirl leader when she ran for a State House along with lots of other women in Nineteen seventy-two that headline was. If these women candidates are elected how will they achey palce. Yikes anyway this article says she took over payments of the nearly new tractor trailer from a young man she had tried to help by signing his bank loan not specifying it was her soon to be ex husband. Whoever it came from she tried to sell it but with offers to low she instead found use for it hiring driver scoring twice Sui grout to Miami hauling.
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"Dick says the Navy tried to keep the bets ball. That's not what was reported. This was the navy was able to take an x ray with a more powerful powerful machine and according to lots of news reports this is what it found. The ball was about twenty two pounds and eight inches diameter. The Navy couldn't determine exactly where the the ball came from but concluded it was made out of common stainless steel four thirty one indefinitely made on earth the tiny beads of material rolling around inside probably early from the manufacturing process. And though the Navy spokesman said there certainly something odd about it and that it did move the house he also said I believe leaf. It's because of the construction of the house it's old it has uneven floors. He said the ball is so balanced it takes just an indentation to make it move or change direction. So that's the official explanation and pretty much. The end of the story right of course not her son. Another family member drove it. This panel of scientists in New Orleans enjoyed work on the panel. I professor hynick every turn yesterday from New Orleans after sharing observations with colleagues regarding the so called mystery sphere. The you consider this now extra-terrestrial or earth manufactured so you are you insinuating Lindsey the Mesh it Kinda UFO KLEPTOMANIAC tonight. We're trying to find back here. Somewhere House.
"ball" Discussed on Odd Ball
"Do you have a personal hypothesis of what the ball is over the years there have been other things that have come from UFO investigations. Che's that indicate that they alien people have a way of making these Thomas Devices that can go out it in gathering information and then return in deposit any information somewhere else and I believe that the ball was one of those kinds of devices. The people would think well. You're you've been into this but since you were a kid you've written scripts like you love this stuff. Does that influence sort of you know this. Assist me nervously. Asking Ron if his interest in UFO's and Saifi means he's biased towards believing this fear is a UFO sort of been torn that. Yeah Ah Yeah. I agree with their argument. I don't agree. That is true but I agree with argument coming from. What would your response be to you? Were there. That's the biggest thing I can say you weren't there. You didn't talk to these people you could sit back in your overstuffed chair and surmise. All you want to that. Have you ever seen one. I WANNA point out here. He's not saying. The buses believed the ball was extra-terrestrial but he said his attitude on all of this goes back to when he was a kid. Living in Rural Indiana and you'd be in feeds tour nude here the the farmers talking. Well well did you hear what happened last night. Did you see these things that were in the sky Wednesday night. You know stuff like this and I knew most of those people and they were the kind of people who were going to make up stories. They wanted to know what the hell is going on. Ron believes he's pretty good that detecting bs because of the type of radio show. He had he said people would call in with made up stories and he could tell but he didn't get that vibe from Jerry. Very bats are her family when they told him about this year strange behaviour. I never got the feeling that they were being untruthful or that they were trying to pull my leg or anything like that. I never got the feeling that they weren't telling me the honest truth.
"ball" Discussed on Odd Ball
"Of April nineteen. Seventy four huddling started popping up in newspapers. All over the country about this heavy silver sphere. A Jacksonville man found in the woods. It was about the size of a bowling ball and would roll around seemingly with a mind of its own today. There's still no consensus as after. What the ball was where it came from or even who has it today and it's not easy to get some of those answers because the family has been mostly silent over the last few the decades? So why was it never did and where did it come from. Can we put this mystery to rest. I'm going to try these as you're just some photographs. This is a photograph of the volume itself. Admits Spear I think. That's I start talking to Ron Who photographed the ball shortly after it was found? So he's pulling out lots of pictures of the ball from this Manila folder. He brought and this is your with fit raw news to have some very on trend long sideburns but most of these photos are close ups of the sphere. It's a metal wall covered in scratches touches a little smaller than a standard bowling ball by about a half inch. The has the ball set up on this mini pedestal against a backdrop of what looks like Red Velvet. Elbit where did you Set this up at their house. Property in seventy for Ron was hosting a local radio show which was called tales of strange things and we talked about. UFO's talked about ghosts in flying saucers is and all kinds of things like that and periodically. Some of my listeners would call in and say oh Ron have you seen this or have you heard about this and they give me a tip on something. I'd go out and investigate it one of my listeners. called up Said Ron have you heard about this thing that they found in he. Was this kind of thing you know. Is this big ball of some kind and I said okay. Well you know I'll check it out. A lot was reported about this fear in a really short amount the time. I'm not sure if the family reached out to reporters I but somehow word got out. There's a weird ball in town. The local newspaper the Florida Times Union has a folder older full of articles about this ball. Like a really thick folder the earliest story I could find in their archive is dated April eleventh headlined bazaars fear is castles elitist mystery happening castle because family not found the sphere lived in a really big house the photo accompanying the story of twelve year. Old Wayne Bats one of the family members. Here's his cupping his hand around the side of the sphere. kind of like it's a crystal ball or something this is what's in those I reports. What ron new before? Checking it out. Terry Matthews is credited with finding the ball. He was a twenty one year. Old premed student was shoulder length. Dark hair and a mustache. Curling down on the sides of his lips depending on the article was late March or early April when he went on a walk and found the sphere lying on the ground in the woods on his family's property in the Fort Torch Island area of Jacksonville a place surrounded by the Saint John's river. Some creeks and Elisi beach nearby pretty isolated area today even more so back fan family owned lots of land around there. So Terry brought it inside and didn't think much of it. Then some days after their appeared to be more to the sphere. Terry's MOM Jerry bets ends up being the family spokesperson. And all this being the person who reporters interview. She's the matriarch of the Beth's family family six kids and her husband Antoine a Marine Engineer Jerry tells reporters. The ball started vibrating. Some days after her son brought it inside and when the ball is placed on a table it would roll around the edges and wind up in the middle was rolling in a straight line with suddenly veer. If someone rolled the ball would stop in return toward the person only to stop a short distance from them and vibrate once while a television crew was at the house. Jerry said the families toy poodle was is placed next to the ball to indicate its size and the dog started whimpering and covering her ears with her paws. Then somehow the navy became interested in the ball and decided decided to examine it. If you're not familiar with Jacksonville it's a pretty big military town but this seems like a really big deal that the military would be concerned with the ball which is one recent. I'm so interested in this story. I don't know how it got on the Navy's radar my best guesses all these news reports then the same several UFO investigators got their hands on the ball to still no one was able to. I D it other than saying maybe it was a piece of industrial machinery. Uh At least twenty-six unique stories about the ball were published across the country between April nineteen. Seventy four in October nineteen seventy five. So it's not surprising. Ron That radio host also wanted to live here so there's photographs of it in those photographs of UFO's. I took out over the beach. Burn Dina's if that was difficult got to understand he also brought along photos of some orbs in the sky. Okay so ron is really into this stuff. UFO's fantasy SCIFI. He wrote to science fiction. Tim Books the warrior King being his latest and even co wrote the Nineteen seventy-one movie that one of the most incredible stories of modern tar mine sat invasion of the walking catfish that was filmed partly in Green Cove Springs Florida on the trailer on Youtube. And it's pretty amazing entire town Sir rampage death and the file anyway. After Ron caught word of the ball from one of his callers he contacted Jerry about wanting to take pictures of it and she said all right come over the ball oh sitting on a glass top table And with no air joining the glass was a sheer cut. Piece of glass and I was really surprised like to see as many scratches on it I was expecting this pristine looking. You know thing like you see in the science fiction movies but it looked like it was well used and so we talked about it and you know how they found it what you know all of those things and I said well you know I'd like to get some pictures of it and said well you know. Let's go outside where we got plenty good sunlight and we'll find a place out there so we we all got up and started to go outside and I was the last one out in his eye was going out. The ball rolled from the center of the table. Able all the way to the edge and stopped it. Was that the first time you had seen it do anything. She didn't do anything and it was almost like. Hey don't forget me. So we picked it up and took it outside with us. I heard about it moving. Your they told me that it moved across the carpet. And things like that but to think that it actually did that all by itself and the fact that they didn't roll off of the edge of the table you know somebody would have pushed it or nudged into something like that It would have gone all the way off so when you held the ball. What were some characteristics that you personally experienced first of all the ball was was heavy? And when you when you held if you tilted just a little bit one way or the you could hear very slight light tinkle coming from inside the ball. If you've ever picked up a broken glass like you break a glass in the kitchen. You're picking up the pieces and you're thrown back into the singer some you hear that little tinkle. The glass makes. That's what it sounded like. You sounded like this. Little tinkling sound was coming through inside and the ball. That feel like anything was moving in there. I do not feel any move.
"ball" Discussed on Ball Girl Magic
"I am commitment to the i don't know the nigerian union bank hey listen we got this cut the wall country because this is crazy oh my god speaking to nigeria the pi no okay i was going to say when i first met you when i first met yvonne i should have known than you were you were destined for greatness we that if it wasn't when i first much of it we did the photo shoot and we just wanted to have a photo shoot to launch ball girl and you have seen the photos of us like in q outfits holding the basketball i got will address on she got a pansudan or something and we're sitting in the bleachers were pretending to hold the ball from each other stuff like that all those photos were dull by we haven't fun it's a great day that yvonne is like yvonne is like hey you wanna do the pictures on the top of the rail of the fair i was like no are we gotta do over the shot everything i do for the furthest shot you know and so i'm like an mind you we climbs like two to three flights of stairs i'm looking down like if you fall you can easily break something wasn't that i am i being exaggerate the we needed health insurance that day we definitely needed health insurance any vaunted not like we were on the rail for we were standing on the real yvan is like doing a cartwheel on the rail i'm just kinda clinging to the rail because we're not even standing would would support were hanging onto the rail trying to do something dramatic other bodies run and i'm sitting there first of all you know i'm hot i'm sweaty.