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65. The Two of Us SHORTS with Abi Palmer
"You rebels radio presents the two of US shorts with neo me Watterson Albert Frederick. High. This is naming lattice welcome to the. Shots Myself, Alba Frederick. He's talking to people across the globe about that pandemic experience. On its relationship to creativity mental health and emotional wellbeing. And as always, I'd like to trigger warning these adult shows of the themes will be complex and interesting, and maybe it sometimes be triggering. If you're over ten the disposition today, put this on pause and put market for later saw otherwise die right. I'm very excited today I always thought was saying I'm excited but I'm like really excited. So run out of adjectives to describe how excited I am about interviewing Abbie Palmer who is Artist Brighter performa. How else would you describe you? I was thinking about the introduction to the show? How much is disability in having chronic conditions Paul also outer identity. I definitely used the term disabled to describe myself is definitely something that I feel is important. So I sometimes myself as an interactive artist and writer. Or an interdisciplinary artist and writer but I do also use the ton disabled artists and writer. Maya entire practice is framed around my disability. So a few years ago I wrote an essay for the anthropology as whispers definitely say booed poets back which I think you're in too. Yeah. So I think that was the first time I came across your work now me. In in the essay I, it's cooled. Nobody to write with intrusion house a manifesto for disabled poets and I. Made the proposal that if you are. A. Disabled. Person Who Disabled Practitioner in arts? We do an awful of hiding disability or trying to opin- normative. Noble and. As a result, sometimes can't keep up with the pace of other normative people and So a good example I think about is if I'm if I'm going to an event. I I can very often be incredibly late because I'm dealing with something to do with my body or getting there on the tube will require multiple. Meanderings done looking for an accessible route and. I'm not just going in a straight line they if I'm on my mobility scooter, I can't just move forward through space and thoughts like other people because I'm always looking for cobb jobs and having to kind of move around things and so I I those moments intrusions on my day on the way. I think and on the way I create and I believed that those intrusions should be the starting point of my practice and through. On US using those moments of disruption, those moments of intrusion to develop. Walk. That doesn't that isn't just linear and no mateb it should be multi-layered a multi sensory. I'm never not thinking about the pain in my body so my work should be providing its audience with that kind of. multi-layered sentence on and I think that that is how I. So for me to answer your question about identifying as a disabled artists or how I how I would that I feel like the disability is so central to my prop tests on that would make sense to refer to myself as a disabled autism I'm thinking about the idea. Of embodied learning and embodied failing. Body the doesn't always feel good. Own Never feels good I'm when isn't bodies? It might be uncomfortable it's a it's a rail place. Sophia mm-hmm. The day of embodied, emotional and intellectual experience. Does not. Make sense to on my just talking of the top of my absolutely not feeling in our body is really really important. To to learning and understanding when I was writing my books on Torian. On at the end, I want to provide list of a reading list of where to go if you're if you're chronically ill person or person who who identifies with parts of the book and I realized that physically physically couldn't compile a reading. LEX I found it really difficult and what I ended up including in the book was a list of instagram accounts to follow because I felt that that was the most useful way to to learn about. Different types of bodies and learn about different versions of experiencing disability and different versions of experience in transgender identity or or or a being a black disabled person. Actually just by by following accounts that how? Their own story and incorporating that into my everyday experience of being on social media has actually. I feel has helped me to learn in a more organic way than sitting down with a structured reading list and actually. Incorporate that into my day to day life. You know. So so that's that's something. That's one way of of a longer term embodied learning is is literally seeing People's daily photographs of themselves and seeing people tell stories and that way. The thing that we talk about moist might disabled friends and I is everyone's gardens and how we tend our gardens and quite physically on not metaphorically but quite calm concretely. It the tenderness of finding people. I've got a friend in Germany who is growing sweet peas at the same time as me and we leave notes about our sweet peas in between navigating other things and there's a real tenderness STA would I love about gardening for me as that as a disabled person who has a little flocks in my life? I can collect a week and when I come back. A new board will have grown something. We'll have grown without me necessarily. Having to force it. And then when I turn up a maintain and tend to my garden I can see the rewards sometimes you need to move fast on Balkany to stop the pasts from from taking over and I just want to say. When I talk about the past and in the abstract contents. Context I. Suppose I'm talking about white privilege. As an example I. Can sometimes you need to move fast to to prevent. To prevent that from from from consuming the balcony. Notes I've written which goes off from garden. It's got nothing stands garden, but we might find ways to bring it back from some fantastic vertical way. Is. The experience of being sick drawing time sickness. I started worrying and Sheltering Looking. wanting to leave the house a lot sooner than than was considered appropriate and much fear of the thing that you can't see. became a huge trauma and I wasn't sleeping. I wasn't eating and I was having really bad intrusive thoughts like you thought weren't necessarily of death. But of the sensation of my sophomore gus being ripped by breathing tube and that being something that could. Provide me with lifelong. Physical suffering the the fact that I might have ten years of post viral fatigue and you know something dot all of those fears like what? What really blew me away at the beginning of lockdown. Was People's. How flabbergasted you could really see how some people. Have never faced inconvenience and park through life before. Major. Inconveniences if your body is constantly disrupting you and constantly telling you that you aren't physically capable of doing a thing when you thought you would be the day before you get very Houston navigating adopting very quickly to it. Don't you an in this scenario I think that's made us. I think that's been helpful. But. I've seen a lot of my most all like my least marginalized a community. Sort of going Oh, it's awful. How could I? My. My eyebrows looked terrible. You know really. Which is fine fine to acknowledge those inconsequential things that are important to. But it's been quite an interesting process to to realize how how good disabled people are adopting because we're so used to our bodies giving up on us. Conversations around sickness. But also what you can say as polarity very clearly in this country because we've got such a right wing government. Is the difference between the conversations around sickness around individuality. Like the idea of a mosque stunned protect to yeah. But they protects off people. So, what surprised if we both did people in win win but they added individuality. Sick Mus The disposability of certain bodies buses, the economy unconcealed it becomes say that very, very bold. It's very bold now over the idea of the sick. Both. The well body the under types bodies and I think Like there's no subtlety in tool. There's no subtlety on slap all day swings I've been aware of it's like, okay. Now I see. But it's Manetti at the end, but I do want you to read a little bit but I got one last thing on my list got so many questions we could go on for about five hours make a beat the length of your. voicemail on WHATSAPP before you raid. and. Is bitchy because it does really relate to your book. The idea of floating and sinking abstract concept on how that's become concrete known in your life and then your body. That's such. A good question the idea of. Thinking as an abstract concept, I guess. When I think about. Floating and sinking I think so much about surrender. I'm. I think when I was writing Sanatorium I started exploring this idea of wetness and the idea of my body which. Anyone who doesn't know? Everything about my body which. Sorry everyone why don't you know we'll of diagnoses. One of my conditions is Donald Syndrome. It's a college deficiency. I. Believe we may share the dollar is operatives yeah congratulations. As it's already wit condition and. I. Think that being having less Collagen makes you soften in a different way and I have always seem self was a body that. Exists batter on in water down on land and I started to think of my body as closer to wetness closer to softness, and then when I was writing on the Torian. One of the horrors was realizing that my body also had elements of hardness and I'm Pat, and that's where pain is my muscles are always have bones are always have joints I always have. Aching muscles I'm so I'm not just a water. Not just water either. I'm floating and sinking to me are both forms of surrender. The way you float isn't to hold on and my body does such a lot of holding on and when you float, you have to let go. And that's why I'm good at it because. My Body is the only space when my body doesn't have to cling to itself in order to survive and. I think one of the very peculiar. Form of Donald Syndrome is. Is that my muscles are so weak that they have to do such a lot of clinging forget to let go and that's what corner pain comes in. and. Surrender is really when I think of floating and sinking I never think of sinking as as giving off I. Think of it as a form of survival actually when you when you think. You fully surrender on it feels like a release to me. That's Learning to learning how to sink sometimes and learning to sink into my body and surrender rather than constantly. Kicking and splashing to set stay afloat. Kind of what keeps me alive? That is absolutely perfect description I can relate to so much of it the idea of. Sinking. INTO MOM's. Body, ams. The word surrender as always. Fascinating to unpick but the idea of like letting go. Not, letting go on my suppose what I'm thinking over. and. I wasn't GonNa say this because I thought Oh we. Just. Want to add one thing about breathing on sleep bit breathing. It's like a huge part of global conversation at the moment because we've got. George Floyd and saying, I count breathe, which was his message to the world. On so many people understood that and then we've got this illness around breath so I'm thinking of. This is why. I, it's a complicated thing to bring up but are idea them. I I is studying yoga. Was told that the IM- breath was a constant reminder of our first breath. I in how on the out breath is a constant reminder of death and I'm thinking the idea of floating and sinking. There's a stinking, which is the idea of surrendering to death the BAT is. Like. Trying to find peace. When there is my pace trying to let go when there is less than with degrees pace unlike you say within your body. How you can sink into your body is not resisting the pain and discomfort is allowing that. that. Made sure of sinking. So I, don't know if I'm making that clear 'cause I am bringing the. The the analogy of the first and last breath in this. In this context of breaths is very, very dominant in our global conversations. I mean I guess what I'd say as well. Yeah. Absolutely makes perfect sense and I think it's a really interesting part I guess what we've been circling this whole time. Exploring your head verse sick woman theory exploring the idea of radical conversations and change and eating top on very quickly and feeling like we can't keep up. A lot of what we've been circling and all of those types of narratives is this idea of cat as well and softness and it's So much of the global conversation around change feels very muscular mooks is quick and it's penetrating and it's like a has to happen. Now it has to be fast and that's important. But in all movements of protest, the way they survive is through mutual aid on cat and the softness of mutual aid networks isn't being discussed enough and yet it's so important the mutual aid around corona virus, the mutual aid that the fact that marginalized people are the ones who are. Sending the of same tanner wrong gofundme as you know to each other. Disabled Trans people of Color. Will have a go fund me to help them survive a period, and then they kinda pass that money on that doing. Okay and I feel like it's really interesting thing that they're all these small groups of softness and care, and that's of the this idea of. Of. Of Change having the I think it's really radical sometimes to surrender to be tender and be soft. I think that's a really important part of of a sustainable protest on a sustainable transformation and a sustainable body. You know like for me, I had to learn to be soft to myself in order to make anything happen. On it and it was hard I collapsed when I was I was seventeen. I wanted to change the world right down and then be instant immediate and be young be quick. And I'm actually having to learn to slow down and put. The. Put The needs of your own body in your space fuss -ment that I had more to give. To the world and to other people and to create. I don't know I feel like. If I if I were to talk from about my own practice when I wrote Sanatorium. I wrote a book that was. I wanted it to be physically tender to its readers. because. I know how hard it is to read a book sometimes and how hard that is. As part of my identity as a writer and a reader that sometimes, I can't finish a book and I can't hold a book you know and I wanted the experience of timing a page quickly but not necessarily having to take a huge amount of information. So some of the. Some. Of the pages have one sentence on. The and there are some blank pages and I wanted that space and that softness for the reader to kind of be able to insert themselves within that. For me that was also a former softeners for me as a writer. I one of my main obstacles, cornick campaign and I. I didn't think I'd I'd get to write the book that I'd always dreamed of writing because my hands were so restrictive and a lot of sanatorium. Is dictated. I was speaking to myself in a computer and then. My on my phone screen, I should say. Recording videos, and then those videos were transformed into transcripts and those transcripts became fragments of overbook. On, by being soft my body and kind of acknowledging the kind of intrusions of my own body, the fact I couldn't write an entire linear narrative all in one go. The. ENDED UP BEING WOVEN AND A slightly different way on I guess what I'm trying to say is that In my own practice acknowledging those limitations in my body. Being kind and generous to myself has created a book. I. Think did did what I needed to do in a slightly different way and I think that that is. A practice that and I feel is really necessary and the global conversation we're having now about being allowing yourself those those moments of intrusion and that that sense of softness and and tenderness to yourself walked a lot of changes happening if it just feels really important. I don't know if any of that made sense it does make sense i. think that does go. To this floating on sinking? Sometimes the sinking. Komo must be like a masterful softness because. A, lot of people will be having very traumatized response. There's a lot of people. Shot responses I talk about. The People's responses because I don't know there's just long. Lot and the sinking on having a space to sink I think. So the thinking on the softness and I think when I read. Sanatorium. That's how it was like can read. It's not my mind brain. It's just finding it really hard to read big trump's of texts that are I conduct possess To breath again, this written round. So I didn't feel like. You know. Didn't feel like this Oh invasion of words and ideas I. let it sort of settle into my bang on that note. Kaddish something. Yeah okay. So we've because we've gone onto we've talked about tending gardens and we've talked about floating. I can do a bit on either one of those themes. Do you have a preference? To be most appropriate. Lists mice appropriate and under the. Yeah I the. Yes, good question. I The I guess. The IDEA. I quite like lemon tree about my balcony which actually if I were to read it properly at talks about water as well. All Yeah. Sorry. This is really unhelpful. Isn't that? All or I can talk about I think I can talk about wetness. Nestle Garden. So a flip a coin coin. Pattern coin. Yeah that means coin. Looking for a coin. I'm going to flip this much books. If it lands? Spoke side up. It will be open site up as gardens and bottom side up is what? London side how useful okay. As London with inside up did I'd say that was wetness. That was wetness by this is professional isn't that I felt like what a professional thing to have done? The. Whole time the whole thing now, it's not like some terrible Rodman agenda they have a series of matchbooks as if only. Imagine. One day in the bath tub I, find a way to leave my body. I feel it's so deep with water I cannot see my own shoulders. I forget to balance against the wall, but the volume of water holds it. It is hot. I leaned back and spread my legs over the inflatable rim. I tell my head buck without meaning to I find myself elevated I. AM three feet above the floor before I realized that I'm still conscious. One day I leave the bottom running and overflows. Up Fast I do not see the water only the absence of anything dry. Water. Floods the bathroom piling up around the toilet and the pedal Ben in the corner. My small pile of clothes are soaked through. I leave the bathroom naked. Water follows me spreading out over the whole. At what's The floorboards? My entire home is failing with a slow seeping shine I, slip and fail myself fooling. Under the kitchen table I see no distinction between Polish water glistening floor. My head hops. Eileen, my cheek to the floor. As, soon, as the side of my Russia's the surface, the reflection begins to make more sense tepid water than hard polished would. I focus on the line between soft water and hard floor trying to understand how the liquid has followed me. My tongue falls out tasting diluted shampoo and Sawdust. I haven't been aware of the dips in my living room floor previously but here I am lying sideways in a hollow. I think again of how liquid Ben's to the shape of the container in which it has held. I bend. My face spread my wet nostrils anex Hale into the water. My tongue hangs loose had trails over me and dump strands my eyes on focus I become as flaccid as I possibly can. Still I feel floor resisting. Subtle Arches of Woodland Push My. I become aware of my own stiffness my firm buttocks a spiking knee. Attempting to become water has highlighted. No matter how much my flesh ripples underneath I am all angles the thought horrifies me if I could I would let my eyeballs fall out of my soft skull, plop into puddles on the floor. Slum to fool. I remember reading at the time. It seems to sum up have we've talks about. And it's Just. For anybody is a really wonderful book and thank you. The sense of the body and associate strong answer May. Felt really Here's the people all time but it it felt affirming for me to read their because. The idea of feeling very dislocates it unfailing but there's nobody else haven't experienced and therefore is valid. Experienced doesn't even exist experience if it's It just in my head I got to go terribly terribly wrong. And so It was very affirming but for people who don't have experience, it's still. A great insight and it's wonderfully written so. As, being so nice to have. Feedback from both chronically ill people are not clinically people. Able people. They've got completely different things from from the book and. Put formed. Performed a completely different function and for me actually it's really interesting because I thought when I was writing it the same thing that you're thinking is it is. Describing. Real things. Is this a real experience and it's been wonderful to have other people chronically ill people contact me and say, Oh, I know what you're I know what you mean for me to think well, maybe not you know because you're always because. We've been talking about flux this whole time everyone I think everyone knows who has some kind of change in condition is constantly asking themselves is this real? Did I imagine yesterday on my imagining today on I? Think we need a lot more representation. Yeah. So thank you. Thank you so much reading and thank you for interviewing me already appreciator. Absolutely amazing. It's just been nice. Average child is. Having a chop for. So long I know it's really really high finding it would be great and. It's a really nice experience to be able to. solve. Pant around things about. Let they let the Info Malady of conversations between two people. Lead. The Way and that's always the hope for my interviews. I don't just have a list of questions and you know people doing exam exams. My asked him a question they own, and then I discussed with my next one though I want to have this much more gentle insurrection. So has been very fluid, which is the. I was thinking of two. Brilliant. Thank you so much. Yeah. Thank you. Really appreciate it. Thank you so much. The ones music you can have as by Gavin Brian. If you like this show please subscribe, there's plenty of episodes listen to impossible good news stable.
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"Okay. So I know is not the day before but I know it's not the but I would like to take the time to personally think the people that motel six for the Pataudi during stay and partly housekeeping. Service. And You know the after they get what they need housekeeping almost every day that they were here. And I know because I, was brought of. China Steve Only ready for one day when I was ready to take the garbage out but. nope. They were in action housekeeping here. Definitely in action some places are doing it someplace not the motel six on the Lindell whether doing housekeeping until guess Lee you know just checked out. And then they clean. For the, next gas but here in. Hazelwood no, it was an full force ready to rock and roll. And I also like to thank the front desk staff for. Getting whatever I needed. Well, I didn't have the Mike Way but still. In an money on. July. Why not forcing the US UBER'S Waiting to. I get my unemployment into my car and until I put more Uber than for. The, next day because I don't WanNa go by bus because. Nobody know how to catch the bus off. Her. Ridiculous but nonetheless. Nonetheless. Though. Dom waiting for unemployment to come in and then put the money in after I. Get some I have to read because I gotta get up on ungodly hour on the night to get to the bus by seven thirty. But I gotTA. Check in. To our. Two hours early because I'm taking I'm putting the bag on the bus the problem is putting a bag on the bus. and Yeah. I'm putting it back onto the bus and You know carrying a couple base you know will want to have. And apple juice and so at least I have something to drink Clinton I get back to the former palace while I'm. In the middle packing and not gonNA, try not to go home food when I am. In the middle of getting ready to. Back. You know and I need it so. I. Got Some. Food I haven't even. Used before I left on this trip. Though but yeah but it's about Motel says both the I love this is going to be this is like my favorite motel six ever. Okay. I kind of wish I took the picture of it today but I was like so tired and like. Out of it put in a good way out of it in a good way because this is like you'll -CCOMPLISH something kind of tired You know there's lots of tires that I. Felt. Tired that the press kind of tired. The tired being disappointed kind of being. This kind of tired. That was. I. Accomplished Finally Accomplished something kinda tired. Even though to do do. But. I was able to get rest. Wifi stayed on while the air was also on. And I had no problems. And all that good stuff. So. Money Wells that laws Ben Tomba Tomba that saved my big hit again. Comma death my big hit again. Even. If I was forced to go with lamb beef, the Gatien I'll always taught to look for a motel six. If I can. But problem in you know I gotta find were words were closer to a bus stop that's the thing. I mean on the one that's having to go to. have. Other people help me to get somewhere wild low cruising. In all the freedom, they don't want to say that then hey. I know what to say. I can't help you there. But Now seriously. just a public Public airing a my testimony while staying at a motel says. One was very clean and. Other than the fact, that does the very small refrigerator. And couldn't even keep all my sodas. Are Cold and I am keeping the one. Then I'm taking on the bus and now I don't Mina buying Sony. But when I get on a bus, I already helped on. Our they have I think could probably might be able to pay whoever's going to Take me to the Second Palace stopping at logging thought think might be able to do that. Yeah because I do have to stop by welling pick package. from you haul when I when I get back. To place that don't know freedom. So. And as far. As. Mass. Requirements. Concern. You know they wasn't to strict with the Mafraq the thankfully as I thought the airline. and. Some of the Uber People. But thankfully, you know thankfully. Well, maybe because they had the glass ceiling and everything like that, and it's tough to hear still but You know go figure that one I. I. Hope to learn a new language learn how to talk the middle learn how to speak mascot mass to ingly. And then I can't even hear what people are thinking behind the glass keep out today what, what? But nonetheless. the they got what I I needed And it helped me out a great deal so. You know I mean. Yeah. So I was able to rest peacefully comfortably. L. quite windy too, and then when I need to watch my video that was able to. It's just when I have a lot of my mind I get so excited like. Wow And other things they want to get the President I, get to press light. Belly, can you stop the pain? Is. A SMORGASBORD thing when it's Or. Something on my mind but. Here the calmed down a little bit. In all from the the statement of everything. I was able to conduct. My business calls getting ready to tainting over when I can accept for food stamp that want me to wait until I actually moved into move to the new place. Why I don't know when everybody else's letting me. Than everybody. Else's let me Yes. On everything else with let me move to my new address. got a call blunt pension maybe they might be bad to. Offer Dot. About. But Blind Pech, I'll probably wait till tomorrow how forgot about the number but The, sure that I get it. But he said it so fast. Balili anyway. Oh. Yeah so Yes that's it Till now, when I get back to the second palace. The next stage of Operation Getting Ready to move will be back faith but it won't begin immediately because like did I gotta get ready to be ungodly hour. And it's not going to be pretty though. But at least I'll have a drink me. My Land Lamb land. So As really going to be something is really going be something fell. Hopefully. Hopefully. Everything will go off without a hitch. And hopefully. 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SIU finding in death of Regis Korchinski-Paquet
"Hi, I'm anesthesia abuse I. Am a two time Olympic speedskater my whole life I have been surrounded by athletes and every one of them has a story that a scoreboard will never capture. Not. An easy thing to be with an athlete that don't understand why they're making fun of me because I like to figure escape players on voices all about the person inside the performance when you're so in it I think perhaps we're the people that understand the least subscribe now wherever you get your podcasts. This is a CBC, podcast. How can call for assistance? Turn into a loss of life in May inskeep pocket fell to her death from an apartment building. Toronto Police have been called to the scene just twenty six minutes earlier yesterday Ontario's Special Investigations Unit which investigates the police released its report concluding no criminal charges should be laid against police in the case. Were allegations in the wake Msci because death that she was pushed off the Balkany by the police. The evidence establishes this. This did not occur. Instead evidence indicates that no one other than Mr Cheap. The cat was on the balcony which he scaled really in attempted attempted to sidestep along our ledge or to her neighbors softening lost their ballots in bell. That is sl you director Joseph Martino. In a recorded video statement about the investigation, a decision recommending against criminal charges has been praised by some criticized by others among those with concerns Serang Gebreselassie she is a trial lawyer and a former mayoral candidate in Toronto Good Morning. Good Morning Catherine. What are those concerns about the SL US assessment? You know Catherine it's been a long history. You know that I've seen with the. And so I didn't you know I wasn't surprised in the least with this decision. I knew that this decision was going to happen regardless like from the very first instance and it's not just regis. There are so many examples there's the Andre. Trimming. Car Be essentially local. There's just stole many Canadian examples of where we see the same result from the. Sau. So it's really no surprise at all. In fact you know for me anyway You know the SL you. Has a long history of clearing police officers and it's been going on for years. Nia saying the lawyer for the family yesterday did say that the report was thorough though he raised several concerns I'm one of them. The. Duty of care. The police officers have in a situation like this. I wonder how you think that's part of the discussion. Yeah, and you know the family and community has been drawing attention to mental health. and and in relation to duty of care and what's and and how mental health issues you know is it really appropriate to have police responding to Mental Health Concerns in situations and the Center for addiction and mental health actually released an announcement calling basically type of cease and desist announcement that they had executed calling. For a moratorium on police intervention in mental health institutions, mental health crises and so you know that's a common debbie seen in. So many other cases like the Ondre Campbell is another great example of that where his history and we have called for the same thing around the concerns around police engagement in mental health crises ask police are not trained to manage of mental a mental health crisis, but we do have professionals that are trained in that area and so you know it really it's It's really sort of pattern. It's the same story over and over and over again and. you know if we don't see the changes that the community is demanding, I can assure you that this is just going to recycle and it'll like I I would give it another year at most before we see another fatality. I wonder, you are not new to this discussion about for instance, changing the way police are funded something that you raised when you ran for the mayor's job. In Toronto, what was the reaction at the time? Yes at that time it was definitely not a popular. Call, it was not mainstream at all, but I did come out very strongly calling for defunding the police. I re purposing the police by jets and investing those resources and Housing Employment, economic, development, and you know the way I. I I see this Katherine is is it's not this is not just an issue affecting. My community or one community. This is now so well beyond that. And we have to understand the climate and the and the bigger picture we have to pandemics raging. So we have a racial you know crisis in the United States and we feel the effects here in Canada, and then we also have. Kobe nineteen pandemic that just the impact is something that we've never seen before in a generation and so if you know to me, it's a no brainer I just commonsense and and and so you know allocating over one billion dollars to the police budget. That's more than libraries arts culture economic development housing paramedic services combined in the midst of a nineteen pandemic in the midst of a financial crisis that has You know that has been forecasted by multiple experts in our city. Your commonsense as you acknowledge, the conversation has really changed right recently I. Mean I cover federal politics prime minister talking about the need for multifaceted way to address the many issues that this raises in the city of Toronto as well. Conversations about. It let's say adjustments to policing. One of the things that people seem to have seized on the politicians seem to seize on is the question of body cameras thirty, four, million dollars I believe that the Toronto Police Services going to spend over five years, body cameras, and we there are two officers now who started wearing them on Monday to what extent do you think that could be part of the solution? I think it's missing the mark and it's missing the moment. So you know the thirty, four million dollars spent on body cameras plus last week there are made an announcement for an additional twenty, five million dollars to hire an additional two hundred. Officers. I think it's just. It's I I. Don't think this is going to be This isn't the grant solution I'm looking for I. Think the solution is clear it's been I don't think it's rocket science It's been You know we have countless reports year after year after year and and and it's not going to be effective That's not the direction that civil society has called for I. Know You're listening to our conversation in the first half of this show about what's happening in Wisconsin right now and I wonder what your reaction to that has been. You know when this first happened on the first day, I was lamenting to myself saying it's such a shame I can't. Go go to Wisconsin and and and you know be and you know Dean Observer Send Solidarity with the my community, the community that's there, and then I heard what is. and mark, and you have to say and coupled with the toothpaste holidays that happened on the second day of protests and it was really a rude awakening you know for myself and I wonder for others as well that. You know I can't believe. You know I I'm beside myself just hearing what to say what happened on the ground I didn't occur to me that in attending or when I you know wanted to attend it because of obvious reasons with the pandemic I didn't occur to me that it would be. So dangerous you know And it's funny because my parents actually come from a conflict zone and I was talking to them last night about this dinner and they were saying. You know. This this is watching. This looks like a conflict zone. This is reminding us so much of what you know we've seen and. Just to hear that analogy was so. Just. Really just took just full taken a Bob Dylan. We only have a moment. Serang Lousy. But do you feel that this is a moment where change is coming? Katherine ever going to happen. It's going to be in this climate and that's You know this is. With everything going on not you know not just. you know the policing issue I the culture is changing I. Absolutely believe it's possible and and yeah, and I and I look forward to a future without police violence. Thank you for taking the time to talk to us about this today. By Kevin. Thrown gebreselassie is a trial lawyer in Toronto. For more CBC PODCASTS GO TO CBC DOT CA slash podcasts.
We DONT need to talk about ghosts: Episode 29 - Strange Deaths
"From a girl we don't. Talk our goals with Kevin Usta. Greetings listeners of the podcast I told foreign greetings listeners of the podcast. Greetings earthling readings, Raffling, it is I Kevin Killer, and Becky Inc Ula, and we all here to give you A. We don't need to talk about cows, but we do need to talk about A. We want you WANNA move your feet so it can also put them up. So, it's of course, we don't need to talk about ghosts. It's Wednesday it your one. We don't talk about one. Extra episode her as the start of the one x rapid per week as opposed to do. Because next week of course on this day we will release a dog the. COUSY! Thaw, that was. Doing a doc episode Oh maitre and Of! Cool realize what needs to do this week as well a need to forgive you all know. I need to prerecord this week's episode. Yes. She did not have to do that very soon. Because we're going to be away on twitter. Scotland. Though. I don't do accents of where we're going. The MY Hanson. You can be forgiven for getting. People might also probably go into Scotland giving me into Scottish. Jackson the very trick. Nearly going to Scotland nearly go north. WE'RE STILL NOT GONNA go into Scott Go, no life is peaceful. We're going to like district. Yes just south of the Lake district south of Okay, Yes, Beatrix Potter countries, so we can look at. The potteries, and all the Beatrix. Me To be nice to actually go somewhere WANNA. Do also might explode. Some we obviously the neighbors informed up coincidentally that we can. Somebody's looking at the the cock. Down to someone they apparently to make sure that it's OK. Whilst going away as well, believe coincidentally. Walkmans what a coincidence! So what we talk about Becca what we what? We shots the cooled. What choose the code as cousy to? About strange deaths. Reaction Up. If it was like Shane's down. Let me. Like Strange deaths. That's okay. No, give me better. Alright strange are to interact. 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Interestingly. LAUDI nine. To Ninety Four. Things just? Okay. So hers I strings. But McHugh of this backer with a be. Ready get. A man who was taking his rooster to cockfight in India was killed. The bed slashed his throat with a blade attached to its claw. Sutter poly chauvinist of frigging out. Is His name is southern poly. Jonah Ben Koch Wadham Ryo. Selah poly fifty was declared dead on arrival at a hospital in the southern state of under para dish. The cockfight went ahead even though the sport was outlawed in India in the sixties. Won't make you of not into that. People make animals fight. She okay with his death. Kind. What about the poor family of? Sada, polly. Gem Ben cuts US Schwab. I don't know if this would be a next. Aspect is not that strange, but didn't someone recently again get killed like a rhino hunter got killed by the rhinos killing so it with. It's like Diane move it just go to. Now and I can't really pleased about Oh, yeah. So sorry setup poly. 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Why are people so all people in the telling you honestly? At least forty percents of the human race who I would absolutely not bat an eyelid, if deal wiped out, and I'm not saying not just due to pandemic reasons, there's some people bring nothing to the F., but obsolete tormented horror. And they don't have breath. I think how do you like harms? Innocent creatures like foot for entertainment for instance. Okay Strength to. Form a gas fitter. James, Petit little guy he's not. James Petit sixty three was found dead under a mountain of rubbish at his home in Addington Birmingham. Police broke into the property after being elected by neighbors, but Mr Petit's body could not be recovered until council workers are taken away free flatbed trucks of material. Another Story another staircase behind the from does seem to be overflowing with paper balls. Babies, bottles and rubbish cheese before his death. Mr D. had chipped on the Clinton staff and fallen through the glass stole. In quotations now it's was ten times worse upstairs, said worker. The police said it was too dangerous safe to move the body. Mr Potato lifted the proxy for forty years. A neighbor called seeing the hoarder always well turned out and said he'd been seeing getting into Bentley a few weeks before his death. is quote the strange thing is that the always always appeared well dressed, said one neighbor. You'd seen walking down the street with his dry cleaning. That always struck me that if we get close dry-cleaned back into that flats island in twenty five years ago, and there was no room to move another resident remarked he was fitted quiet man, but he had a good job. He would get taxis everywhere. So Foam Augusta James Petit. Getting. I'm naturally a horror galaxies. Everyone is out luck Dasa not. Wanting to drink. Okay and I. Don't get sexy water I am Hollywood literally. I struggled to throw an NFL to the point where we go to box for the, do they? On it's still under the stays and now. 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And if you NFL in the your wash them but I end up doing the dishes allied. There's nothing I hate more than washing plastic tops the so greasy. All the time and impossible to walk should not impossible for the. Soon just. Waste is the problem so like I went through. I draw enough. Throw anything away and everything. I think just in case just in case might need. That's at the times when we want you know what we could do. With I've like pulled out the bugs on three random away that works for the for the toxic, and it's very very few, and far between the. Obviously, it's like the only thing that can come in useful for is if we start our own Amazon service or over the Chinese restaurants. and. Not The jars I'm keeping. What about the Jewish? Now after just said when something that. Fits in. The. Front you to have the thing and then get the jaw. While I I am an actual. Win Win. Everything with the was starting to people were hauled in. I was thinking. I would not the space like if we had to garbage, I would naturally already about. A stockpile of food, and because I'm just so naturally. I took me down to the ground looking preface. To remember when the see well starts at a new. Way To make sure we have suitable amounts of all souls. Upset. middle-class holding obsessed with the olives. It just all I'm you'll see? We're going to be blamed if we. Get Somalians sundried tomato. Pasta we'll appointment all. That was ridiculous anyway. Strange stuff? No, the three, not resigning. Yeah, small one got the next one. something. that. You're still in your own phone number because need bouncing like. The. Defensive. Although two. Thousand. People who say. No way you hate to add so much I don't know. I hate takes reminds me warm personal abuse to work with. He was the source of Dick. Yet you stick with me. and. He was associate that like. You know like a it didn't have any of these things, but you know what you mean you'd have like. A flower squared Baltar and his lapel, all like a dickie bow that would rotate and lighter. Cloud of the because something like he said, forget an actual. That's what you mean. He wasn't an actual Kanzi I mean nobody beats? He thought that these things were genuinely funny or like Oh as the actor Shittu Bishop ooh. Tried to do blame on Tundra and it just wasn't. dupleix, you say double. Andrea Double Entendre. Notably? I've no idea because I think it's. So that's what we think about Banta. Death number three mother of two ECHINACEA Nifikorov, twenty seven of crasner discuss Siberia was killed by Alexey as Ed trow thirty five, who slashed her throat, and then cocktail lungs and heart and his kitchen. He called his landlady to tell her walkie done, and when the mets arrives at the flats, he said the Hawk cooking on the stove. On the questioning, you said, throw said I, told her I would eat their heart, so I did. Not to show that the fits of the strain stats, that's just. Starting. Out Mode and that Kinda, but you each. Of Entertainment that one is, it is just some nobody's been killed by of Would you be to a human being? Even if you like dependent on. was actually going to die. Yes, probably like the thing I think it's think anyone who says no. I think it's one of the things that the survival instinct is so strong I think when you in the situation. Newmont no matter what seems volunteer two year now. When you like listed state, I think people actually consultant do anything. I agree with that. Did you ever see that German program? I didn't see the program. There was a gentleman program where the host. At. Somebody else's deep perform cannibalism on the tally, so we agree to a piece of include the on the coke that Asia. TV Progress. Story no genuinely was. I think she'll go fit well divorce because it's not legal so feeling. It wasn't the CV program. There was anyway you can restore for the starts at the bottom their EDESSA. Story about the name. 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No, no, so you want the stream where? She literally got to the point of saying I'm the baby insult anyone. Looks at a and she looks at him and he just went out shoe pity. She went. She didn't she listed what to do and he just went. She's pregnant. This no way out. It's just GonNa, so we all knew early. You're not there think. Rings a Bell Civil We all knew. This story say that's why doesn't make up. Didn't go with him. So. the Kyle. Need we gave soon felt. Like. You has it seems thinking that sounds familiar. To its. Own, almost whose name bull, Greco Odessa. Carey says he's IX Just, legitimate, just going over just a cave thises identically named Moulder with a mallet and Christopher ahead with Cisco. She then visited a friends allotments where she took the head of a carry a Bach and kissed it. The friends reaction is not recorded. The body of Edessa Kerry senior seventy nine was found at her house in Ashington Northumberland ahead respond under the sink another house. Where does was hiding in the loft? She was found on fit to stand trial. Damage to think she was fixed on trial for the U. K.. And local moons you. Isn't it because all these talking, but you don't make the news. These all taken from newspapers. But what newspapers taking from now? Save him from all the show remain. Shame on fourteen times, and I love to send them a lesson and say listen please stop. Using about newspaper. Well? Your role the Echo. Jimmy's pits best one of the best ones reasonable anti. What good shots could way to? Pooh Pooh the rest of the show. What do you mean? The best one. Well no I was just as Jordan shoes out with the remaining ones not in order. Because you've been well, you will wind well. Okay. Late One thousand, nine, thousand nine, engineer autumn. Late nineteen, you said. Some back to the. Elite Ten to fifteen. Fairly sure US twenty nine hundred prisoners tenting patriots. Ten. Nineteen. Save this time in late nineteen fifty. Engineer thirty one fell to his death from a washing line pro while trying to entertain friends and relatives, Ot at the women live longer. The month he had climbed up a ten foot, pole, his balance, and fell onto the concrete patio, first or among the family gathering with his fiancee, Williams twenty-seven, the couple which use to get my agent January. He fell right in front of me. My friends and my family was William Solo Corner. He was just trying to make people laugh. A verdict of accidental death was recorded. A Dea. So trying to climb the kind of attempt for washing line poll anymore. and. Control off on Oh although deeming landed on his head though. That's what it sounds like. It's her family's while because she says in front of me, my friends and my family much. His in front of all is foaming. I don't think that's. Relevant here. I think it will be I think. You're fine foods. Melissa witnessed. That wouldn't happen. It's kind of like saying that much. It's like me. 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The shooting occurred in the village of yellow yellow in the raison region about two hundred kilometers southeast of Moscow juice to the coronavirus pandemic, the areas on the lockdown. An argument broke out of the Moung, complained to the form and one woman from his Balkany after which earned some PM. He started shooting at with hunting rifle. All five died of their injuries at the scene a mole. With. One Hell of a shelf Janney really only five of them as well like the be. If by the sounds of it if they were on their Balkany or even just south. Yet knowing must be one hell of a shock because. Based on the. East shot one of them the other fall Ron and he's still able to. Do this. Hey mayor he made he was doing no on piano lovers. Only. Jesus. Russians. Chew Sisters in different countries both died from brain hemorrhages within twenty four hours each la butts interested among the Williams fifty four KLOPP's. She prepared to travel from Leicester home to ingles dots. Germany, to be with us. If sufficient fifty-seven, who was gravely ill with bleed on the brain and I'm doing took come under the auspices, but she died there on the seventh, September a day after a sister Pasta in Germany, the held health joint funeral for the pair and Lester, bucks, interested with the twins say sisters three years past. Well General. Do you know me now and grounded you to live indefinitely? They? Don't almost continue. at the end of the road is Rhode. Cold Wallace Avenue Right. Wallace Avenue once featured in the strange deaths impossibility and times. You know why because there was a couple who lived in not road. who had been together since like Sin Second Bubble? The both got married at eighteen. and. Died within ten minutes of each other in different locations like he was in hospital. And you died. And ten minutes later, she died. It was I. Think the title of the thing there was like. Broken. Wasn't if she's nobody? No it's an excellent point. Of got it wrong a bit, but do definitely present the. Am One by late March nearly three hundred people dies are more than thousand made L. Across the room after drinking methanol, believing it could cure coronavirus drinking alcohol of course is bound to me as long public. On those who do have to rely on bootleggers. Tammy? That's the pedals of alcohol. Methanol well. You dunks like alcohol. move me some alcohol nominal meal. That's you. Isn't it different well? Yeah, I mean just because I haven't drank for six months doesn't mean that everyone drinks evil i. know fall from it I think I'm GonNa get back on a tune in a big way. Awesome. Yeah, you don't know when. This feed like just one so like in general in general. Focus for breakfast. OF OTHER NORTH OF A. PENANCE and swimming. You saying I don't know. If I know flicked time away from Ah. Don't if you. Like. You say in. Of I'm sick of it on I. I don't know you still. Look sick of not drink and what it means though I think. Of Tangibly had enough time off the alcohol. So get back on it. Took a car flonase. Do you don't need to be if you to? My opinion of you'll drink is very much do what you want. To Crawley's Buell life. Okay I will thank you for joining me with a strange deaths scenarios here. You of course needs to stick around. We're going to add a little patriot extra to. That's then If you'd like to Senator Patriot, you can hear whatever we're going to talk about next. We haven't decided yet. Then you can go to patron dot com for slash. We need to talk about ghosts in the meantime and in between time. Are we talking talk about your new leggings? The. Trucks Payton's. You suggested the jetsons is what the? The gene tight leggings, but you don't like the word check INS do. You think it's conduct. Yeah yeah whatever. Okay Gosh if you want to hear about that I'm more interesting. Things of Coast Guard Patrol in the meantime we shall see you on the weekend for a standard episode. 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How Algerians Ousted Bouteflika
"From foreign policy. I'm Sarah wild Mun. And this is first person this week upheaval Algieria. The north African country of ALgeria has received far less attention in recent years than its neighbors, Libyan to mesia that's mainly because for the last two decades, the country has been relatively stable under the leadership of Abdelaziz Bouteflika all that change earlier this year and February Elgin's took to the streets demanding leadership. What if we could now in his eighties had served four terms and was up for fifth peace ever to stroke several years ago and had barely been seen in public since. In the meantime, Algierians had grown tired of the click that runs the country a mix of military officers business, eat and the ruling National Liberation Front. Party known as the F L N the winter protests continued well into the spring remaining peaceful throughout that was deliberate. Algerians had lived remastered civil war in the nineteen nineties in which some two hundred thousand lost their lives. They call it. The black decade what came to be known as Jerry is black decade began in one thousand nine hundred ninety two with a military coup which prevented the opposition. Islam acceleration front from winning second round of what was meant to be the country's first democratic election. The war that British brought some change delta area on April. Second Budi flick agreed to step down for the future remains uncertain is the departure of beautifully Kerr enough. To satisfy Jerry ins a lot of demonstrators signaled that don't just want him out. They want to overhaul the entire power structure Dalia Ghanem yazbek is a resident scholar at the Carnegie Middle East center Beirut. She grew up in jury during the black decade and returned her country earlier this year to take part in the protests. She's our guest this week. Dahlia thank you for making the time today to speak. We'll get into the reason protests and the decision for Abdelaziz flick to leave office. But before we do I watch I wanna go back a little bit. And I wanna talk a bit about the decade that I'll call the black decade. Why was a called the when it was called the block decayed, but some people also call it, the red the decayed in the sense that it is red as the blood that has been shed. So it is one of the most violent pages of Julian history of modern Algieria. So basically in nineteen Ninety-one, you know, Julia was on the bring in the sense that Islam is party that was called the back, then reform Islamic said, which is in English, the salvation Islamic Front was on the verge of winning the legisla. Of elections and the military interrupted the electoral process and the first calls for Jihadism between quotes, and for violence have been launched and then the circle of violence started the Jihadist groups mushroomed in the country with the most prominent one being the armed Islamic group of the GI, and the entire society was witnessing adorable circle of violence. They started with intellectuals they started killing intellectuals journalists prophecies teachers, and then they continued with a civil servants my father being the co director of a very famous company in geria- estate company has been threatened several times. My mother was very, you know, sick ler woman. She wasn't wearing the veil. She never did. As a matter of fact, and she was the owner. More of an art gallery. And in the conception of these extremists art was forbidden haram. So my mother was also targeted we had to move civil time. So it was very very difficult times for us. You know, I've seen people dying in front of me. I lost friends at university because university bus exploded fumigators from university. So it was really a terrible time. It was a civil war Algierians were killing Algerians the security forces also made terrible mistakes at the beginning of the conflict because the indiscriminate violence of the security forces led to violent radicalization of many people people who had nothing to do with Islamist. As a matter of fact, so talk to me about the powerful sense of fear that there was in the street. Yes. Well, that's the exact sense of terrorism. It tear. Terrorize you to the extent that you are terrorized to leave. You don't know whether you are going to live or no, I remember my father used to wake up get in the car and look at us and say, well, as far which means see you in the evening, but we were never sure because I always had this Luke that maybe he would never come back. And it was actually the fact for us as well. Because when we started I was back then at high school, and they were also targeting young students in high school because they weren't wearing a veil. Fortunately, we were leaving in a pretty good Gillian suburb kind of gated community. If I may say even gated communities were not protected and everybody was targeted. You know, we in there is we wear this kind of intelligence francophone intelligence. We were cultural threat, we were an economic threat. And this is how they. Actually on tigon is the Algierian society, and they divided it. So you know, it is what we call in sociology the other uttering process. So there is the asks the pure community, the good Muslims, the good believers, the people who want the Islamic state, and there is them, and I belong to them with my entire family, which was a glee and dirty and wasn't Muslim enough. Actually, the entire society was seen as a who'd community, which means an impious community and actually the GI excommunicated the entire Algerian community by nineteen Ninety-six nineteen ninety-five and remind us the J stands for aja stands for a group. Islam ick army, which means in English the armed Islamic group. It was one of the most prominent group back then actually even I s talked about it in one of its magazine called the, Debbie. And they said I a- said about the where the jury in brothers failed. We are not going to fail because actually the J did back then what I will do twenty years later, meaning they liberated sorry between coats entire villages and cities by liberated. I mean, they, you know, they took power in these cities they had their own logistic. They had their own court. They had everything it was like a parallel of state and people follow them at the beginning. Because either they were scared or because they had no choice or because they believed in the cause. So entire villages in the coastal area of Assyria followed the group because they believed in the but also because they were fed up with corruption with how the state was running things. So they've seen the GI as. The savior and tell me we're their protests in the street of secularists of the intelligentsia's, you call yourselves were there protests against the transition the country was going through. Yes. Of course. And I remember my mother used to take me at the beginning to these protests. You know, when we would find everyone, you know, stickler is feminist Burberry's before and they were all together they took up to the street saying notaries have meaning no tutors. We don't want Assyria to be governed by these extremists. But then the Jihadist group started to target protests by putting bombs into public space and Benny actually people died during the protest, we still have, you know, archives about that. So I remember even back, then my mother stopped going to these protests because it became you know, very unders to do. So the government is perceived to have won this. A war. But at enormous cost two hundred thousand civilians were killed thousands went missing. And then there was an amnesty for Islamic militants in two thousand five pack that actually was created under put flick, what do utterance feel about the pack of amnesty? Well to be very clear with flip is seen as the architect of face. It's stupid. He didn't initiate the process. It is actually presently means well who initiated the peace process in nineteen ninety four nineteen ninety five when he come up with this idea, cordless Lacombe, code Seville, which means the Seville concord in which he offered an amnesty to some Jihadist against of course, them laying down their their weapons and under certain conditions. And of course, when delays put car came into power in nineteen ninety nine he continued the process and then in two thousand five the charter for national reconciliation was voted in the refer. Ryndam however, back then there was a big chunk of society compose, notably by the victims of terrorism and the victims of the families of these appeared who said no to this charter for them, the charter was totally unfair for several reasons, but the first reason because within the charter there was a category created that was called the category of victims of terrorism and within this category. The state put the victims of terrorism, but also the Jihadist themselves as being victims of terrorism. So for the families of victims of terrorism, it was a shame for them to be put in the same categories as those of the perpetrators. So they didn't like this idea. Many people said no, we pay the hefty prize. We are not going to be okay with this idea of forgiving everyone. But to be perfectly. Objective. I think back then the Algierian state was put in a terrible position. And after ten years of civil war. The only solution was to have, you know, a reconciliation process. And you know, it was also a way to have transitional Justice in. Fortunately, there was no transitional Justice, and the sense that, you know, for instance, in Rwanda after the genocide they put in place, what they call the Gaza, which was like local trip panels in which the perpetrators and the victims sit together and talk to each other. I think Algierian many Algerian wanted to have truth. What happened to our kids? What happened to our son's where they are? Tell us the truth. We want to talk to the perpetrators we want to know them. What visions what did they do that? And there were no such thing. So it was a clean slate and many people refused that idea however on the ground according to. Official numbers. Of course, you know, fifteen Townsend jihadists where we have billeted within the jury in society and all these people laid down their weapon reintegrated society. And as I keep saying, you know as an analyst as appear in political science it works also for today. You know, you cannot say to all those jihadis who laid down their weapon, we are just going to put you in jail, and you are going to rot there, you need to find ways to rehabilitate them in their society, you need to find way, maybe not to forgive them entirely. But to offer them different opportunities. So they want to go back to that path. Again, it is not a perfect reconciliation. But I think it had many positive impacts in. Andrea Diallo energy, leave L geria- and why I left Julian two thousand five I want. To pursue a PHD before that master, and then appear in political science in France. And then I lived few years in Peres where pursued my PHD in political science, then I leave the year in Massachusetts at Williams College when I was teaching, and then you know, I wanted to come back to geria- but life decided that it will be different for me. And I joined Carnegie right after my PHD defense, and I've been with the Carnegie Middle East center in Beirut since two thousand thirteen let's bring us to the present. So beginning in February Dreyer's undergone waves of protests, and you there how do these participant? Well, to be perfectly honest when they began in February twenty-second, I think the same night I was invited by Hans van cut to analyze the situation. And I have to say that back then I didn't think that it is going to be that big. And I remember saying to. Myself once a how okay maybe this time, it's different and on the twenty third eyeball my ticket. And I went to Algiers I was there on the twenty fourth. And once I marched with the student on the twenty six I felt that. Yes, this is different. This is a different energy. This is a unique sequence of event that we are witnessing. And then I thought this is only the student. Let us wait for the big Friday March, and it was much I and I can tell you I participated to the demonstration as an analyst as an observer, but also with my heart, and my identity as an Julian citizen, and there was so much emotion on March first there was so much intensity. I remember, you know, when we met the first police Bereket people standing up face to face with the police rising up their arms and starting chant. Sylvia's in mea, which means peaceful peaceful. And then they started chanting yellow police Madisha, which means all police do not hit me do not do bad our wrong with me. And I remember there was a minute when there was tousands of people in the street. I don't know how they reached a point where they all chanted customer, which is the national anthem and people just broken tears and even so policemen just removing their helmet and starting crying actually, one of them cried in the arms of my own mother. And she was telling him, it's okay, we'll be fine. So there was such an intensity. I think this is the first time since the nineties that we haven't seen juries that United. There was no rejoin Eliza there wasn't. I am habile and your up or I women, and you are men. No it w-. Was we are all Julian's, and we took to the streets because we want our dignity back and tell me what was the original demand. And were was it very clear at the outset. What that demand was? Yes. It was actually the very first demand was very clear and focused. It was not to the fifth term of President Bush flicker would flicker has been in power for twenty years. He has been, you know, debilitated by a stroke in two thousand thirteen and it has been six years that he hasn't been able to address his own people. The demand was cleared. No to this fifth term will do not want you as a president anymore. You need to step down and actually they succeeded in removing their president without one drop of blood being shed. So this is really an immense victory. But of course, the road is very long in the New York Times op Ed recently you described how peaceful those demonstration. Were paint is a bit of a picture of what it felt like to be in that crowd. It was beautiful. It was you know, very well organized. I have to point out something this movement is leaderless and yet it has been super well organized people. You know, go out every Friday, they do it after Friday prayer. They even established local committees, which are responsible of cleaning the streets. There are people volunteers who are actually cleaning up the street while people are marching so by the end of the demonstration, I can tell you the streets of Algiers were super clean, and that was amazing. They organize security comedies. These people were wearing orange vests and record see from them that they were there to make sure that everyone was safe especially women. But also to make sure that all protesters were safe in the sense that you know, the regime tried to. To dispatch some hitch man some but Aghia in order you now to provoke demonstrators. Fortunately, this committees have been very good at avoiding this kind of provocation and the solidarity. I have to talk about the solidarity of Algerians we had people giving us bottles of water for free. We had people throwing bottles of waters from their Balkany. We had people giving us food for free. We had hot tea. We had couscous we had donuts. Everybody was there to contribute in his way. And of course, that created a very beautiful moment of solidarity and of safety. I have a picture that was very moving for me in which we see a mother a woman holding a baby in her in her arms. The baby is in a deep sleep and she is carrying him with the Algierian flag tight on her neck, and my first reaction was. Because I am a mother too. And if my daughter was there, I would have taken her because I felt so safe, and I felt also proud when I asked this mother. She said we bring them because they are the future. They are our legacy. We are doing that for a bitter. Julia for a bitter future for our kids. So while this is a baby specifically jury is actually incredibly young country. How much of this? Do you feel like is run by those who were not born during the ninety s and the last wave of protests? Well, fifty four or fifty five percent of the jury in population is under age thirty and this is a huge. And when I marched with the student on the twenty six I talked to many of them, and they were super young they were twenty twenty one years old. So this is a different generation from mine. But I ask them about the black decayed and believe me these people didn't leave join the black decay yet. They have a pretty clear memory. You know, the memory of violence is still there. And when I asked them, how do you know that it is not really written in our history books because their fathers and their mothers and their brothers and sister talk about the black decayed because they told them this is what happened to us. We kill each other almost two hundred thousand people died fifteen thousand disappeared twenty billion dollars of material damage the country was almost ruined. And they have this memory. They don't want violence, and I think this contributed greatly to the Sylvia to the fact to the peaceful nature of these protests are Julian's do not want violence adjourns want change. But they don't want change at any price. They've really pay the hefty price. Dahlia do you think we're in a new era of spring now with what we're seeing Andrea? And what we've? Seen an uprising in in Sudan as well. Are we seeing a secondary spring? But, you know, juries don't like the analogy with the Arab spring because of all what happened after the Arab spring, you know, violent extremism dies, and so many other things so they don't like this analogy, and they would tell you that actually. Julia lived it's our spring. It's joins spring, and it is true in October fifth nineteen eighty eight Algierian Soukup to the street by millions five hundred people among them, many youth have been killed by the military because back then in eighty eight the military shoot at the people so followed, of course, the plaque decayed. So for Algierians they've already went there. And I think Julia is a bellwether for trends in the main region. You know, it's war of independence was a precursor for the war of independence for the. Arab world and in Africa. And Julia was one of the first and then the Assyrian spring happened and twenty years after that, you know, the Arab spring happened in two thousand eleven and our board. So I think what we are witnessing right now. My show us the future trends in them in orgin. This might happen in two three four five maybe seven years, but something like that is going also to happen again in those countries that witness the Arab spring in two thousand eleven meaning Tunisia Marocco to a certain extent, Libya and so forth. Dia. So in the last weeks with all these waves of protests pootie flick has agreed not to stand for another term. But in fact, the pouvoir the ruling group of algebra is still there. What do you think will be the future for JIRA? Well, you know, this is the complexity of the situation the jury in regime is a very complex and OPEC regime. It is composed by different stratas and circles of powers it is like a pyramid at the top of this permit. There is the military institution with some very charisma -tic and power for military leaders gates is one of them, for instance. And then you have the FLN which is the National Liberation Front ruling party Apache, and then you have business tycoons and all the circles of power have a great interaction because they have great and high political and economic interests and what Simmons? Their relationship is these interest. But of course, allegiances are very fluid. We so with this last week's when for instance, a business tycoon like either had dead defected from the boot flea clan. And he's been arrested lady so allegiances are fluid, and it is very difficult to see who is doing who with whom. And this is why we GM has been, you know, very hard to understand to allies, but also very hard to move. It's a regime that has been able to whether so many storms October nineteen eighty eight the black decayed nineteen Ninety-one two thousand one two thousand one the riots in Kabilia two thousand eleven the spring two thousand fourteen the drop in oil prices. The question is whether it is going to whether again, the two thousand nineteen protests. The question is an open question. I can't answer. But where I can tell you is that the deep stay. Eight is. So deeply rooted, you know, that it will be very hard to uproot. However, I believe that juries are determined for a change with it is going to be a real change, a deep change or just a cosmetic one, I think we will know that in the upcoming weeks and may be months before you leave DeVille hopeful than I do. I do I want to be domestic I feel that change is going to happen. However, however, the question of the deep state will remain the question of the involvement of the military in politics is a very crucial question. You know, the military are the real locus of power in Algiers. They haven't been governing that they have been ruling the country. And I believe that this is going to continue. And there is also the question of the damages for twenty years that cultural. Economic social economic and political damages that has been made by the regime are deep so it will be very hard to reconstruct the country, and I believe that the way to democracy might be a bit longer than what we expect. But if I have one piece of advice is for my fellow Julian to remain, peaceful civilized and to be passionate bet to be patient about the challenge. Thank you so much for joining us today. You're welcome. It was my pleasure. That was Dolly Agawam. Yells back residents guard Carnegie Middle East center in Beirut and the time since we spoke Muhammed's Ma he took over the National Liberation Front. The ruling party elections will be held in Algiers on July fourth. Meanwhile, protesters aren't satisfied their demanding more democracy and transparency first person is produced by me, sir, Wildman with Benjamin's alway our editors rob Sachs and our executive editor for news impasse is Dan Ephron. We'll be back next Friday. Thanks for listening.
Parker Inside the (Rob) Parker - Cubs' Addison Russell media overreach; Vlad Guerrero, Jr. debut; Guests: Gary Sheffield and HOF Writer Tom Gage
"Do you like talking about fierce women who changed history because I like talking about fierce women who changed history. Join us live in New York City. This Friday may third for a preview of Tribeca film festival. An iheartradio. First joint original podcast. Fierce fierce is a storytelling adventure about the women left out of our history books and the women today who are carrying on their legacies. You can get your free tickets now on the Tribeca film festival website Tribeca, film dot com. From the berkshires to the sound from wherever you live in MLB America, this he's inside the Parker. You give us twenty two minutes in. We'll give you the scoop on major league baseball. Now. Here's baseball hall of fame voter number. What three rob Parker? Welcome in into inside. The parker. Your weekly baseball podcasts. I'm your host. Rob Parker hall of fame voter number one zero three and what a show we have for you today. We have Gary Sheffield the man with over five hundred home runs who should be in the hall of fame. We'll talk with him also hall of fame baseball writer, Tom gage. The latter reported the my friend, but a lot of your asked. We'll talk with Tom plus, but I it's time for getting rob my take on it three hottest stories in baseball. Leadoff. It's getting rough and keep them up. Rob's hot. Take the three biggest stories in major league baseball. Number one. Does Chicago Cubs are out of bounds foul when it comes to this whole idea that they wanna baby Addison Russell and they won't kid gloves. When he makes his return to the cubs. This coming Friday after a forty game suspension for violating the league's domestic violence policy. And I get it. They don't want people to pile on him when he comes back. He's been through a traumatic moment is situated. This was a fine. Young player who was a star going to be a staunch icago before this incident happened. But the bottom line is reporters have to do their jobs. This is what Addison Russell has to deal with when he comes back is it forever. No. It's not forever. There was a story out there this week that the cubs PR threatening media members who are critical of him. Stop stop this goals with the territory if you get the cheers when you hit the game winning home runs and make the big plays to win game for the cub, you're gonna get this. When you get suspended and people have a right to write about him talk about him. Ask him questions about it. And yes, there's a big redemption story that's going to be out there for Addison Russell, and I get that. But before you can write that store, you still have to cover the fire. That's what reporters do there's no playing favorites and kid gloves for certain guys Addison Russell will be able to get back. And and the change the narrative by first addressing an acknowledging what he did wrong level Porter's white that they'll get that out of their system. And then it can go back to him playing baseball and the things that we knew before this whole situation. So the cubs back off the reporters allowed them to do. Their jobs, and you know, what Addison Russell will be just fine. Number two earlier this week. Angels slugger Albert pools bass earlier this week angels slugger Albert pools pass Barry Bonds for third on the MLB career RBI lists soon, he'll officially become just the third player in history to knock in more than two thousand career RBI. Is it foul or is it fair to call our poo host the greatest hitter of this century, and we're talking two thousand and later, and I don't think it's unfair. I think for some reason our pool holes actually gets dissed because of some of the bad years in Anaheim with the angels and people look at him now as an old, man. Kids. Lord. His numbers are beyond reproach. They just saw. I mean at one time people were saying that Miguel Cabrera was the best white handed hitter in the history of baseball. And I think they forgot about Albert pool. Holes in the years, he put in Saint Louis and what he's done in his long career, go Google his stats. They're through the roof. They're unbelievable. When you think about all the guys who have played major league baseball. And you're telling me that only three players have knocked in more than two thousand career RBI how in the world could you not look at our pool halls. Hey, Garin and a rod those are the guys those are the only people who have ever done it in this game Alber pools is without question. The greatest right handed hitter of this century, the greatest hitter of this century for that matter and maybe the greatest hitter period when you talk about a right hand hitter. When you look at all of his numbers, stop poo, Albert our pool halls number three Vlad Guerrero, junior made his long anticipated major league debut. What a scene it was my goodness. He also wound up getting a hit a double and his first game. But a lot of people were talking about the patient factor. Was it bigger than anybody else's because there have been some players that we have been looking forward to seeing. There was Ken Griffey junior much anticipated. There was a rod Alex Rodriguez people were dying to see a rod when he came up in Seattle. And what about Bryce Harper? He was another guy. We remember him the Vegas kid with a homerun sports. Illustrated cover, but I gotta say this. Vlad juniors might have been the biggest his game was nationally televised with the social media stuff. It was big. It was all over. And then you had his dad Vlad senior in box. Sweet watching his son will cut aways to him. It was as big as it gets. And there's been other players who've had their son's debut win in the major leagues. But I gotta say given the social media aspect and the notoriety and and what he had done in the minor leagues. And how people were anticipating his arrival and it happened in Canada where he was born. It was so big that even the Canadian Prime Minister mentioned him in his debut. That's how big it was it spent two countries the United States and Canada. So I'm going to give it that flag. Guerrero juniors day. Byu was the biggest ever. Hey, I'm Andy if you don't know me, it's probably because I'm not famous, but I did start a men's grooming company called Harry's. The idea for Harry's came out of a frustrating experience, I had buying razor blades. Most brands were overpriced over designed and outta touch. At harry's. Our approach is simple. Here's our secret. 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Always good talking to you, man. How you doing? I'm doing gray. No doubt about it. Chef I just wanna get right to it and talk about you and your career, and you know, as you know, I do vote for you every year for the baseball hall of fame. How do you? Do you feel like you got a shot of getting in? No, you're not going to get into tell me your thoughts on on you. Because you have the numbers man you hit over five hundred home runs in your career. You played a long time. You did a lot of good stuff or a lot of good teams. I looked at it. I'll put in my work. I know I'm hall of Famer they know all the famous so it just a matter of technicality. What what was going on with baseball and everybody has their opinions, but everybody don't have facts. And then the bottom line is that I can live with my tax. And I did it the right way. I play clean all my life. I, you know, and I got told him and I'd say you can test me free. But blood for a hundred years if you want to I I don't care. But I like I say, I just know I'm easy to put negatively towards because when you're out smoking person, it depend anything going you. And then then most people believe. Yeah. This that's the problem. I have doing that era of we had a test from everybody who played during that era. Maybe I would look differently and you never even tested positive. I mean, I just I don't understand where guys decide to be judge. In jury. And I said I look at some of the gods. When you see other guys who get in, Gary whose names have been linked. What do you think when you see Pudge in Piazza and guys who's, you know, names have been linked to steroid use Wapping probably like every other player that thinks about it. You know, it it. It's a political game. They let in who they want and they draw them narrative. I won't baseball to be presented, and I was crystal clear net when I was eighteen nineteen years old. So it ain't changed. Now. It just that. I'm not gonna make a fuss about it. It is what it is. If I'm in great if I'm not that's fine too. Don't change my life one bit. Well, you got my vote as long as you on the ballot to ninety two batting average to almost twenty seven hundred hits five hundred nine or be is and six sixteen hundred seventy six RBI solid career a hall of fame career. What was your best? Stop you obviously played for. A number of teams was it winning the World Series in ninety seven with Florida. Or was it somewhere else? Yeah. It was a Florida Marlins. You know, I I even go to show you how this game is. I even called the Florida Marlins. You know to make sure that that was my my team that I so she ate myself with and I brought them their first championship. And I was the first franchise player that they ever bought their that to be a franchise player and to bring a championship there and the called him back my in two thousand nine and two thousand ten season just of signed a one day contract to retire there, and to no avail, you know. So so, you know, I still have love for the fans there, and I'm still going to shake myself there because of them, right? And whenever you want to championship is hard to not remember those moments in those days and the things that happened. Exactly. When you see today who who's a player that jumps out? Now, you do work for TBS post game baseball pregame postgame stuff when you look at. Players today who jumps out. Will you say this kid is either already there star was going to be a big storm baseball. I looked at dot teeth. I known kid when he was a little baby. And and I and I and I used to watch this kid we're around his dad, and and and everybody and we saw glad new year, and he jumps out like a sore. Thumb back in the day like French field. The was he was coming around. And you see them swing the bat, and you say some day these kids going to be up here. But it is a kid. I saw him. I saw him catching grounders and I saw him hitting. And I said I guarantee this kid going to be a short stop in the big league someday. And I thought his dad had tried to play long enough to play with it. But it didn't work out that way. Well, you got a couple of boys who are playing ball, right or the eleven and twelve me about those of you wanna see them in the big leagues. Well, I can tell you my twelve year old today. He he my wife said when he he was a baby any time. We would have a game seven year old and my sixteen year old they wouldn't go down in the tunnel as baby and wanna play in the playhouse. But my my middle son. He always sat up through the whole game with his mom and watch me play. And he mimic everything I did. And and now when you when you Sam is like what my wife said, I thought it would get better as you get older everywhere. I go he wants to be there. You know? He's like on my hip pocket. So so tell you as a love for the game. And that's the most important thing. If you love something enough, you you're going to be determined enough to make it. So that's that's what no doubt no doubt about it. When you see at one point it looked like collusion was going on and players wore being signed this past spring. And then all of a sudden, they baseball owners have opened up the checkbooks. What did you see money, and you see what? Trout got one hundred thirty million in price. Harper three hundred thirty million and Manny Machado three hundred million. You know, and you make good money and your day you made a lot of money. Well, what did you see these contract? What do you think to yourself? You know, I've always always good act that question, and my answer is always the same the same the same way. People look at these contract is the same way. They looked at mine when I was hitting highest paid baseball brand. Maybe baseball pollen history of sports when I signed my first big deal and everybody looked at me the same way. Like, how could you be worth all his money? How much he'll fresh people when you and what year was that? It was it was only seventy two million dollars. It'd be old. Look, I know on what they make it now. So I don't trust me. That's a lot of money. But what what is it the fact that they're making so much now, but that was seventy two million dollars. And everybody looked at me like how could you be worked on his money? And I was like saying the same thing. But it, but at the same time, you know, we didn't play for the you know, we didn't play for that. And that we played for the dream, you know, and and the money com. That's that's why we looked at it. As as we go on. We got about thirty seconds baseball baseball. I think is in a good place because you got a lot of younger stars coming along. You know, maybe you need some more African American. We saw Kyla Murray who turned down the baseball right with the as and instead became the number one overall pick in the NFL does baseball needs some young black stars as well to keep coming up. You know, the thing is about that is, and I'll tell you we're dealing with that we dealing with that right now, you know, when my sixteen year old and a high school, and where the problem starts people have their opinion about why licensed in the game it starts at high school. And I'll tell you these coaches play these kids that shouldn't be playing and he black kids and sitting on the bench and not playing when their better players better athlete, and it's the political game. If the pay to play if I paying the play on travel ball team, then they you know, they're not lend some kids come out for the high school team. I had to go speak on the behalf of a friend of mine that hit they wouldn't let us come to trial because he didn't play on the coaches travel Balkany. And that's the problem. That is not what baseball's should be about Gary Sheffield, my man, thanks so much joining the podcast. And again, you have my baseball hall of fame vote as. Long as you're on the ballot. Appreciate you, man. And and and and and continue success, but. It's time for the pocket protector. Centrum the analytic numbers you need to know. Well, maybe f s one's Anthony math Thurston is his name and Bs analytics is game. What you got for me? Anthony all right today. We're getting some welcome to the pitchers specifically the ones who rack the strikeouts and keep the ball in the ballpark. There's a stack called stip or fielding independent pitching that works just like ERA. But as explained the name, it takes a pitcher defense out of the equation dip, it gives you a great real pitchers performance of what they can control strikeouts walks it by pitches and home runs while not penalizing them for poor defense behind them. But the ERA doesn't do. Now, the wartimes of batter puts the ball in play the west control pitcher has on the outcome of that at that. So a pitcher with a high strikeout profile is going to fare much better when it comes to fifth now, it's no surprise the last year. The Mets Jacob degrom led the league in fifth with one point nine nine Mark, actually. Higher than Ziara last year one point seven zero. He was ridiculous, but he had a common thread with the rest of the leaderboard the top five stip last year. All struck out more than ten batters through nine innings walked fewer than three per nine innings and allowed west than a home run per game. It was two grand Trevor Bauer Patrick Corbin. Max Scherzer and Garrett Cole not bad company. Right by the way, top sixteen in fifth last year. One ninety plus games, lower your fifth increase your winds. Rob. All right. There we go. Thanks, anthony. Maybe do you like talking about fear swimming, hit changed history because I like talking about fierce women he changed history. Join us live in New York City. This Friday may third for a preview of Tribeca film festival in iheartradio's. First joint original podcast. Fierce fierce is a storytelling adventure about the women left out of our history books and the women today who are carrying on their legacies. You can get your free tickets now on the Tribeca film festival website. Tribeca film dot com. What rob was the newspaper columnist? He lived by this motto, if I'm writing I'm Rippin, let's bring in a writer of broadcaster. Older new. We now woke him in baseball hall of fame writer, Tom gauge, my colleague at the Detroit News for a number of years. Some of the best times covering baseball, Tom. How you doing? I'm doing great RAB. How you doing man? Wonderful. Great to have you on the podcast. Let's just get right to it Miguel Cabrera is back with the Tigers. But his bat isn't what has happened to MiG Itam. That you know, that's a good way of putting it rob his bat isn't back. He is back. And he's you know, it's kind of sad to watch because he's trying so hard. He knows the team to depends on him. And you know, the impact just isn't there anymore? He's sitting he's got ten Rb is he hasn't. He hasn't had even in his rookie season. I mean, he this is a guy who's had five APRIL's of more than twenty RBI's and one home run, and he just kinda didn't dunk that into the first row at in Chicago the other day to to right few. He doesn't pull the ball. He's got thirty strikeouts. Robin ninety nine at bats. That's not the Miguel Cabrera you remember not at all. And Tom at one point you remember when he won the triple crown people were talking about he's the best right handed hitter in the history of baseball to remember that talk. Oh, absolutely. And he's still a good hitter. Because he he's such a smart hitter. But he's not the impact hitter. He was I mean, one Rb one home run Ken be icy sitting weighty three and his and is slugging average is in the mid threes. And that's just you know, he he's more like six spot hitter instead of three or four now. Now, I they they can change it can come back, but he missed most of last season would would that bicep problem and it now, and he's and he's older. Now, he's in his mid thirties. And it just doesn't come back automatically. This is a guy to whom the tag is still over a hundred million dollars. Speaking of that the Tigers in ohling and where they are. Now, how people accepted what's going on because it was a missed window there, Tom where they went to the World Series twice a very good team and Monaco's of winning a championship. It didn't happen. How have house Detroit responded to this? Tiger team. So I think Detroit's responded remarkably well. Well, and and what's remarkable patients? I don't know how long patients lasts after after good team. I mean, the the Red Wings are going through that too because they not made the playoffs three years. After after being, you know, the darlings of Detroit. But I I don't see that initially. The Tigers the fans could blame read awesome. It's because they didn't really care for Brad. But now, I think they all like Gardenhire and he does a fine job. But the team's not good. I mean, it got off to a decent start. And it has some certainly had some some pitching and the pitching prospects. Casey Mayes who the number one draft choice went to AA last night and his and his doubled aid. It did you Raby if it should no hitter. And so I I think he's I don't think they'll give them a shot this year or maybe September. I don't know. But that's a name certainly to keep track for the future. But. This is a this is a no name team except for Cabrera Kester Yano. She's after slow start and he's hired Scott boy. So you know, what that means that probably means that he's going to be elsewhere. And it's just a I don't know. It's it's they don't score runs. We don't give up many runs, but they don't score mini. Tom. Would this buffet? I wanted to answer. Yes. Or no. Did Dave Dombrowski costs. The Tigers are championship by never fixing the bullpen. Yes. I would say that's not fair. I think they they're they're more reasons you can give credited Umbro's t for helping the Tigers turn into what they did it then assigned him blame. But at the same time. How did they not win a World Series? You know, if you don't win os six you got to win twelve and then with that thirteen team. How do you not even get to the World Series? This was a premier not just franchise but on the field. I mean, they had that window. They should have won a World Series while they were that good. But they did not last thirty seconds. You wrote day book. You're right working on another book. Tell us about the book you wrote and the one that's coming up. Well, I stopped covering the Tigers as a beat writer two thousand fifteen I've written three books since one general book about the Tigers best moments in best players one on Alan Trammell that real with the Tigers last year and one with Mickey Lola turn the sixty eight World Series, I glove to write a book about Lou Whitaker because he might meet next up for the hall of fame. And I don't think even after all these years RAB that Detroit really knows Lou Whittaker one hundred percent, and I can't wait for that book. His name is Tom gage hall of fame baseball writer and Tom thanks for joining. The podcast. Thank you. Good talking with you. Fasten your seatbelt. Here comes Parker's top-three MLB teams this week number three the Los Angeles. Dodgers they continue to hit the ball out of the ballpark. Second in the National League with home runs with forty nine. And I with a four sixty seven slugging percentage, Cody Bellinger leading the way tied a major league record with his fourteenth home run on Sunday. He joined an exclusive club only three others had hit that many home runs before may first number two. I know the Tampa Bay rays. I'm giving them respect. I know they got swept by the Red Sox. And people said always what was me here it comes. But even during their rough patch when they went four and five over nine game period. The bullpen has gotten better. And I still believe the rays have great starting pitching. They are number two number one. It's the Yankees. Again. I know the stars aren't there yet? They haven't shown up, but they continue to win. They went to San Francisco. They swept the hitting the ball out of the park. It has been an unbelievable surgeon resurgence by the Yankees despite the injuries. They remain number one. Favor. It's time for trash talk. 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Born into riches - the staggering extent of the Royal purse
"And brings me great sadness than it has. Come to this decision that I made for my wife I to step back is not one. I made likely it was sir. Many months of talks of so many years of challenges. My British friend said to me. I'm sure he's great. Because the British tabloids will destroy your life we intend to step back a senior members of the royal family. There statement said we now plan to balance our time between the United Kingdom and North America. Harry is pushing the royals. But don't worry he won't be broke. He's estimated to be booth sixty million New Zealand dollars. Thanks to money from his mother and his great grandmother and he gets more from his father. We're talking millions more. That's inspite of him saying he wants to be financially independent dont what's more British. Taxpayers will be forking out even more to fund has lifestyle massive bill which would be facing auditor paying more for high now that we did before Qaeda. I'm Sharon Break Kellyanne today on the details on talking to Norman Baker a former Liberal Democrat administer. He's risen all about the royal fortune and a new book called. And what do you do. What the Royal Family don't want us to know what he reveals as a highly secretive uber? Rich text avoiding business savvy family otherwise called the film and Harry still going to get a cut. He's not really leaving the royals he's keeping his. HR H title. He's nothing to be using it. It's officially that he's keeping not significant because it means he will access to the security guards which comes royals to free travel to support from African Palace and the like so All those elements will still remain in place. Furthermore in terms of the ancient he receives ninety five percents has come from Prince Charles and five percent from the sovereign grant. which is the the money the queen receives? He will be really in practical terms no worse off at indeed. The taxpayer will be worse off because it costs US security. We'll go through the roof okay. Well let's first of all look because he's quite a few things there. Can you explain to me. What is the sovereign grand and unbought? Does he get from that every year. The sovereign grant is a is a terrible construction which should never be allowed which was created by Joe. Joe's phone phone but Chancellor of the Exchequer in about twenty eleven twenty twelve. What happened and I have to go back in the history here? There was a deal with that in seventeen sixty whereby the royal lands which are called the crisis stage were handed over to The government to the public at an attorney the the kingdom has given an annual salary if you like civilised salary to meet his basic expenditure and the government then took responsibility for those matches not just the king of Prussia looks after they lay the army and so on that system lost it until twenty two thousand twelve when a new system was called the silver and grounds under that arrangement as essentially was taken at fifty percents of the profits for the states would not go to the Quaid. It was wholly wrong to to to link the monarch with those lands. There was no legal connection. By view between those lines. And and the clings duties. The consequences of that however has has been to leap the queen receives to effectively the the profits per property company property companies buying large perform better than normal inflation. Now this has been a massive increase in expenditure from suspect to the monarch since twenty eleven twenty twelve. Just because you're a figure it's a devastating this the civilised which acquired received the money from foreign from taxpayer in twenty ten or seven point nine million last year? Yeah the new arrangement produced for the Queen. AC Two point eight million at the time of a stereotype tightening belts over here. They should attend for increase in India. Bunch of receive did people and general know about this and why well because of afraid the media don't do their job properly. The media are obsessed by Trivia as to whether Prince George life life camels or horses or something All they're obsessed chest by nineteen fifties values whether Kate's dress looks right or whether it's just you touch her bumper Jews practice at all sorts of things. which are those highly intrusive in completely irrelevant? Actually journalists have been equating. Megan's misdemeanors with. I'm Druze Forum editor of the Son. Dominic Mohan said last week. It's been an annus originally for the royal family whether you're talking about Prince Andrew or Harry and Meghan that's right. It's been terrible year for the royals whether you're talking about Prince and Sandra hanging out with a convicted paedophile Meghan wearing jeans. To Wimbledon doesn't ever focus on the rule batches which all the financial arrangements between the mother and her family and the taxpayer and also the other Little tricks which so you have to sort themselves. I think should have changed now. would not get a interest in wider aspect to the royal family which is partly Down Dan to Andrew and Harry from rocking the boat and hopefully partly in a small way. Don't you to my book when people are asking about role finances to me and the way they weren't doing a year ago. So what are people saying that Harry showed just walk away and in for himself. Well on the Harry Issue I mean there's a a general view from the public I think that's You're either in the royal family or you're not you're either. They're on the bulk of the palace with the fly over the the planes Waving to the crowd I can turning out Rhodes. UC's all your whole family. I think that's what people believe Harry should be. And there's lots of support for Harry in a sense that he's quite well liked and people feel that you want to go crazy zone arrangements outside the family. That's fine. I feel that way too but people did feel which account temps both camps. Well it appears he doesn't in some ways but as I said to you under the surface she still doesn't seventy support he's going to receive receive so he's still going to get money From the sovereign grant. No you don't get the five percents The percents of income. I'm from disorganizer disappearing. What he's still GonNa get ninety? Five percents comes Prince Charles. No that's not as I understand that coming from Prince Charles Private Money Prince Charles wasn't one hundred billion patents but it's not coming from that. No I think what's going to happen is based on previous experience is it Prince Charles Will Fund Harry So something which need more obscure because there's actually coble of the Duchy of Coal Bowl. It's legal status is uncertain the Duchy Coleman is a uniquely British institution providing the personal income for every Prince of Wales for the last seven hundred years. I'm starting to think about how I will inherit the Duchy. One day is give me lots. Think about Prince William will inherit a business worth nearly a billion pounds sounds. It currently generates over twenty one million in yearly prophets. Thank you to pay your rent. Every Prince Charles insists. This is a private private estates in this. She's personal property effectively. I would argue and many other people aren't you. It actually should below the state and He is taking money from that particular. A dictator amalgamation property which really ought to go threat to the sex pair. The product from the touch of Komal is a prophet of around around twenty two million pounds a year which challenges this book money I think he should have paid. Harry actors the profits of the DOT com. And that's very difficult. Because he will then use that to say he has incurred an expense he will then say at the expense of Jesus his tax liability not love set against tax tax. Payer lose out because they will receive less in tax from Charleston. They should do because he's classifying. Harry's money as an expense I was actually reading what you wrote about the Duchy of Cornwall. But one of the properties as the Oval Cricket Ground and south London Yes I've been cutting to the state and as I which All sorts of cricket on extra cover for the prince while he hits the taxpayers mistakes. I mean some of it doesn't mean very much. Something means quite a lot. I mean he's got for example the rights to middle deposits. Well they're also very missiles under the ground in court. Well he's in the cleanable those yes. That's personal money for him. He Park on the park. The beach had to go to Africa. And KOMO's you're paying him for the call POC. There's all sorts of bits and pieces which it save money for so Harry will continue to get as as roundabout ten million New Zealand dollars. I think has five million pounds per year from tiles through the Duchy of Cornwall. Well it's quite clear what he should get because Charles number quite declares much giving Harry but we know it's billions right. Okay okay so. We don't even know that but he will continue to get that yes what else from accessed because so she retains as John Rights title. Officially he will get the travel to and from Canada. He'll get security detail which within there are at at least probably six of them over there at the moment offices. This is called four scenarios travel. It's all travel full police officers and all the costs of the all round the clock coverage in Canada and not simply Harry coverage for making covered for all of you who've been different places at different times. This is absolute the massive bill which Going to be facing and say we'RE GONNA end up paying more for high right now than we did. Before and takes payers will be paying that the security costs they will pay the travel and they'll pay in a sense indirectly by Charles declaring this isn't expense and reduce your tax liability. What do you think about the speculation that well? She's already got work with Disney. And that Harry might through his sports boots links sign up with potential sponsors. Well look I think if people want to lease it. All families should be allowed to do so because it shouldn't be held there in kind of chains and handcuffs for the rest of their life. Don't want to be there. That's perfectly fine and they wanted to do something else. I for one I've objection to that and indeed I think how and making more in some ways a breath of fresh air and the way they were dealt with in some of these fools to marriage they're all strong independent minded women in in particular. Look at how they treat the data they think women should be there to be simpering. Bother husband inside Behaving like some sort of nineteen fifty four world suggestions. I mean it really is very antiquated way of women I think making biggest dependent minded person has found that very difficult question defensively. It's it's not about her being a woman of color now it's about her being a woman of Color Progressive American divorced and having some opinion precipitated with Harry and Meghan wanted to leave but I think in terms of what they do now they've got to carve far lovie like wherever the mentioned forest and of course I could involve activities which are ones which you wouldn't normally expect members of the family to be engaging but they must go and do things which are not not exploiting royal leaks. We've seen it in the British papers also. Today's I've been who hall about Pizza Phillips the Southern Princess on who has gene appetizing milk of all things in China and Russia pedo Phillips Jackson United by Jim's it's annual bills royal pizza shoes on Cintron. This is what I drink. That's totally inappropriate appropriate. Vyas niece has been selling milk as well as they're gonNA competitor in China into love milk appetizing. My view is undo. Disney overdose has reportedly signed a voiceover deal with Disney in exchange for a donation to wildlife charity the elephants without Borders according to multiple reports. Object to that I I would have checked to if she was building role family or she would do over dubs on something related to a royal matter equally of how he wants to go and become a chief executive charity helping kids in Africa. That would be fantastic. Yeah I was told that what he can do is have a brand for. Sussex Roiled which sells products with the royal audience and makes money for himself they they trademarks the Grind Sussex royal which could include hundreds of items some clothing charitable fundraising than education. There's something called the Royal Danish team in the Cabinet Office which approves to reach the Royal. So the Cabinet Office Odinga's decision about the royal and they should be intervening to stop this nonsense. They haven't done the positive positive somebody else. But quite clear who deposit to and the reason why we're talking about illness financial stuff as because of with your latest book which is pretty controversial. Why did you write this book if it's controversial is controversial because it's accurate this tells people what the facts are and that's controvercial? Apparently because a lot of things are hidden. Why don't write shit because the royal family? The monarchy's is an important part of the constitution. We know a great deal about other parts of accurately Colvin's Lords and so on and the civil service and the judges and so we parlance for the truce. Those people were donating. People didn't know what the truth which is a monkey. The monarchy has gotten facade of benign benevolence and involving society which is wholly positive. And they're all possibilities of course but there's also a great deal of budding grabbing underneath the surface and that's what people aren't aware of nothing improper APPROPR- that people should be aware that the roles are enriching themselves from the public. Purse should agree with this in mind. Fuelling sensible that the her special treatments in law which enable them even to veto legislation affects them personally. Cleveland Prince Charles Ability and that they've exempted themselves effectively from the freedom of information. Act So people can find out the fact people should do all those things and and so how did you find out about it. I mean how difficult was it to get the information. Then what am I mean. I've I've been collecting material. Really by-in-large on and off for about twenty years. I became an MP seven the summer to research. I mean. I went down to the archives belittle through the Times but in what my bouquets. It's just pulling together All my parliamentary activities and all the bits and pieces from the press being published over the years the royal archives. What exactly is where they keep? There's been a council on on again like most into the role property. The insist the private you know vying for you is that his family is a history of Britain. As is you have to go special commission schooling there even be Privy Council apply. They couldn't reach. I got exposed giving my status but I got in there As a tiny room which seats I think about six six researchers at one time you have to ask the things and I hope that you strike lucky. We'll distraught lucky because I asked for for the two which. I'm not sure anybody has asked for. So I find that quite a lot from the archives and that sort of the book from what you know. How much is has the queen with today well cleans must billions? I mean I'd actually by somebody called Philip Hall it about nine Hundred Ninety fifty five Gold Oil folks but he went into the finances in huge detail and concluded that she was the most richest person in the country. We know that in nineteen fifty two Winston Churchill was prime minister decided to give the new Queen I lift up the financial ladder those wine but he decides to do do that and he exempted the que- points from any tax. It's all on her. Investment incomes that was reversed in nineteen ninety-three but the calculation elation made by those who are able to these matters suggests that the queen benefited from not taxes except the tax exemption the loan the two nine hundred billion pounds. Wow that's just a tax. You should have paid. Didn't pay is not really clear. How much the queen pays in Texas on her own investments these days one report says she pays nine thousand pounds annually in council Texas on her properties like Sandringham Estate? But what we do know is how much the royal family cost taxpayers. His last year it was a staggering. Sixty seven million pounds. I don't talk with that. Nobody should go for investments. And everything else you've got drunk Colo- from for most people to to mend fences in her stating whatever happens to be your new multi-billion pounding over that over the Rhine and a little interesting piece in in your story about that. Who Stamp Collection alone is with a hundred million pounds? Yes little stems. The is standing in on an example of the misspending. You're saying that Buckingham Palace refurbishing it. It was quoted at ten million pounds in two thousand eighteen. That's gone up to three hundred sixty nine million. Yeah three fifty nine. I think it was three six to nine. But here's the rub apart from massive cost which is gold thousand goal whistles all the way through the palace? Here's the RUB. Because the rains Windsor. Integrate fire where it order for the for the clean to be able to pay the cost of refurbishing and repairing Windsor Castle she would introduce public access to Buckingham Palace? They were Charles quite for the tickets for the money for the tickets would go towards repairing Windsor Castle. I did it but the thing is by nine a All the money from Buckingham Palace. It'd be insufficient sort of pair Windsor Castle but what happened in isolation nine. They kept collecting the money. People still paying for the doors. Come into Buckingham Palace. Where's the money going acquaintance taking it? So we're paying three billion pounds palace. She's keeping the money from the tickets that you sell the door doc and apart from you Norman. A people kicking up much of a fuss. Not Enough again sir. I mean the kicking up a fuss about some of the thus about Andrew in Jeffrey Epstein and they think about Harry something sensitive whether he should be supported from the public purse. But but these are all kind of little spotlights. Volt Lights Picking up on you know whether we'll stops people don't like it and they say that's that's not right but people aren't doing I think can I have done. I hope is to look at the whole picture. Veteran say this whole thing is a benefit needs to be sorted out helicopter vision that people have yet got which I'm trying to sets attached so they understand how connected and what do you think should happen. Well I mean what do you think should happen is that should be. I mean vast semi-desert all family. which would become you come from a European monkey? We lost imperial monarchy the French the Germans the Russians the Austrians. We'll go over to the imperial real monkeys on monthly the cover of book. There's a picture of Buckingham Palace Balcony. There are false you for them on that Balkany. What are the doing the Swedish no which is for your fool? People delivering all the necessary royal duties in these countries. That's how it should be so. They should be slim right down the first thing that you happen. Second thing that should be you're paying taxes properly and openly which said not and thirdly. We should've potted freedom of information accident to find what's what's going on in the fishery. What are the chances of us? Bliss happening though Norman. Well I don't know I mean you know apparently role something came down We don't whether this is this is what's happening now is a catalyst for the change. Or whether it's just I mean certainly the papers have been much more hostile. So they're all in last six months naturally remember. I didn't sign for twenty five years. People don't want to be into the clean people. Think the cleanest. Good job that she's a good person and people don't want to to upset her when she doesn t three. So I think wouldn't wouldn't the queen dies that would be. That would be the crucial point. Join just whether or not people think hanging enough of this to queen was lovely. But you know we don't really want Charles the royals and the properties and the castles some whatnot A.. As so valuable to really aren't they they draw lots and lots of tourists. Will he do think we should base our constitutional almost tourism tourism to notes. But you can still have the Buckingham Palace. You could still have the changing the guard. One reopen dominant bears games only because Silica Nestled the families of liberty. That's the detail for today. I'm Sharon Break Kelly. The detail is brought to you by newsroom. Dot Co dot inside made possible possible by Irene said and Near hit the subscribe button to stay across the detail every day. And if you're able please leave a rating as it helps other listeners. Find signed us. This episode was engineered by Jeremy Ansell in produced by Alexia Russell and thanks to Norman Baker Calcutta.
49. The Psychology of Anthony Berkeley
"The right to serve detective stories can be as much of a mystery as the plots they create. During the Nineteen Twenties and thirties. This attitude was especially prevalent. Sam. Grudgingly not. Accepted the publicity GT's talk to go with literary. Success. Dorothy l says with had day job in advertising was even quite good at generating column inches when she wanted to. But others activity hit from the limelight refusing to supply photographs for book jackets and Publishing strictly guarded pseudonyms. Antony balch was one such author. He had an outsized influence on this period of crime writing. He was the founder of Detection Club, as well as an innovative novelist fascinated by the who-done-its potential for psychological development and the way it could reflect real life murder cases. But during his lifetime, he was reluctant to court attention. And since his death in nineteen seventy one, there has been far less revival or adaptation of his work than other lonely golden age authors like Agatha. Christie, say on Marsh let's get to know him a little better. Shall We? Welcome to she done it. I'm Caroline Crompton. Before we start today, I want to tell you about new feature I'm adding members of the she done it book club, the Membership Scheme that keeps the lights on for the show earlier on this year during the period of strict lockdown in the UK I ransom weekly livestream while we watch. TV adaptation detective novels. Together. I'm not bringing back as a regular monthly date. So that on the last Sunday of every month, we can get together to watch something mystery adjacent. The first one will be on the twenty fifth of Dover and appropriately enough we'll be watching suspicion. And hit film based on Antony Barclay. Novel If, you'd like to enjoy that with me and other members as well as getting access to all the other benefits of the club including. Advertising extended versions of interviews and the Monthly Book Club Discussion. Sign up now by visiting, she done it book club Dot com slash join or by calling the link in the description of this episode. Anthony Barclay Cox was born in Eighteen, ninety three. He was one of those unlucky people born into a family of overachievers. His father was a doctor who was involved in pioneering early x Ray Research. His mother had been one of the first women to study at Oxford University in came from an aristocratic family with connections to the monmouth although Antony was educated at private school and Oxford he managed only third in classics. While his younger brother dazzled everyone at Cambridge with his mathematical. Brilliance. And his younger sister goto doctorate in music from the Investi of London. Antony grew up in comfortable even grand upper middle class house. But. was perhaps always aware that he wasn't the star of the family. Why does this matter? Well as a writer Barclay on explored characters with inferiority complex of one kind or another he even wrote one book nineteen, thirty nine as for the woman. In, which the put upon protagonist is outshone by younger brother, who is Cambridge scholar? And a younger musicians sister. Barclay. Might have been secretive about his personal life when it came to publicity or biographies but he put at least some of his feelings on display in his fiction. Antony Barclay volunteered to fight in the first World War graduating from university in fourteen and going straight into the army. He didn't have a good war if there is such thing. He was gas while on the front in France and had to be invalided home to recover with his health it to be the same again. A series of desk jobs followed and in nineteen seventeen, he married his first wife. Margaret. Upon leaving the army off to the ominous in nineteen eighteen. He helped to manage the family's finances and try out various business benches although nothing really stuck alone. He began to get into writing contributing humorous sketches to punch me alongside his brother Stephen. And then in nineteen twenty five, he published his first crime novel the Layton Court mystery which was dedicated to his father. This somewhat immature story is nevertheless crucial to understanding him better writer. Both because it introduces his regular amateur sleuth were declaring him and also because it was published entirely anonymously. For this I work Barkley didn't even come up with a pseudonym on the cover of the first edition literally says the Leighton, court mystery by. Question Mark. From the very beginning, then he was private an coast off about his literary endeavors. I'll just give you a brief idea of how Barclays first novel fits into what else was going on in detective fiction at the time. Nineteen thirty five also saw the publication of Agatha Christie's fifth novel, the secret of chimneys. And she'd published one short story collection as well. The Freeman Wills crofts was also already five novels into his prolific writing career. Dorothy I'll say has had published her own first effort whose body in nineteen, twenty three. And would follow it up with clouds of witness in Nineteen Twenty Six nineteen twenty five was also the year that John Road Ronald Knox and husband and wife Writing Team G. D. H. and Margaret Cole had their first length detective novels published. Barkley was joining a movement very near its beginning. Following year, he followed this first novel up with the witch food poisoning case again an outing for. Roger. Sheringham. This is a much more original plot than the first book. It actually draws some aspects from the real life may brick poisoning case that I've covered on the podcast before? With the central character Mrs Bentley being arrested after her husband's death because there's just too much awesome everywhere for her to be innocent. Roger Sheringham however is convinced that the evidence against her is two convenient the overwhelming and sets out to find another explanation explanation for the crime. Also published anonymously this book is notable because of how sharing his character develops. He becomes unlike the Sherlock Holmes archetype a human and fallible sleuth. Who sometimes gets over excited and jumps to incorrect conclusions? I think in this plot, we also start to see Barclays keen interest in psychology began to surface. Indeed the which poisoning case is sometimes credited as being the first psychological crime novel. Even at this early stage when the crime writers were delivering, Candy Plots that satiated the public's endless demand for puzzles. Barkley was interested in exploring the Y of a murder mystery as well as the how and the WHO while Barkley. Certainly isn't everybody's Cup of tea. He does have one rather notable fan to whom I'd like to introduce you now. I'm a great at Mar of Barclay. Because I think he's always successful because I think he wrote. A number talks very all. In various different way. These very interesting is Nina. Is. I'm vicious and rights, and indeed unusual things and sometimes did embarrassing are well. I think writers who show ambition with a work evenings Thi- turnover succeed. Not, something to be mad as well as enjoyed and there's lots admire and honestly Barclays, as always will shrink to Shady Hata. That's Martin. Edwards President of the Detection Club very experienced crime writer in his own right. He's written a biographical study of bought that his woven through his nonfiction account of Nineteen Twenties and thirties crime fiction. The golden age of murder. One of the things that Martin highlights in that book is the way that Barkley drew inspiration from real life cases. The particular case from eighteen eighty, nine that the witch would poisoning case draws on also indicated a future preoccupation for Barclay. In that one a woman was tried for murder that nobody could prove she had done. And then still imprisoned for it after a barely legal trial issues of justice and morality engrossed him especially when the murder cases were augmented by issues of adultery and divorce. The execution of Edith, Thompson in nineteen, twenty three and the death of Alma Raton in nineteen, thirty, five who both accused of murders they said, they hadn't done but also pivotal moments in the development of Barclays thoughts on how the law treated women who tested the boundaries of marriage at the time. Again, we can look incident Zimbabwe's personal life to partly explain this obsession with doomed love triangles and marriages that didn't conform to contemporary norms. He and his first wife Margaret divorced in Nineteen thirty one. At a time when ending a marriage in public still wasn't a particularly common or respectable thing to do. She shortly after married the man cited as a lover or correspondent in the proceedings Barclay and his ex wife seemed to have remained on good terms though with Barclays Biographer Malcolm Turnbull recording that the author left Margaret Two thousand pounds in his will. The following year Barclay married Helen Peters. The former wife of his own agent having daringly named some of his character, his in his nineteen twenty seven novel Roger Sheringham in the vein mystery after the protagonist in this real life love triangle. Or maybe if you include Margaret to it was a squad. Barkley had other less accessible passions as well. He was very keen on his brother's wife Hillary for awhile. And he also had a very intense French with the novelist em della field who shared his interest in the Edith Thompson case. Data field even Merton novel about Herself Nineteen Twenty fours methylene of the suburbs. Data field, of course, married an engineer who became a land agent Devon. and has semi fictionalized account of her life there as the provincial lady is perhaps what she is best remembered for today. Judging by what he shared in his writing I've always thought about he is quite a gloomy personality with somewhat twisted sense of humor. There is certainly a slightly dark aside to the way he threads hints about Gender Sex and sexuality into his books. The witch had poisoning case stands out in my mind mostly for Roger. Sheringham's misogynist roundabout women as the weakest ex. At one point he says, quote women are fundamentally incapable of reason, and they're one idea in life is to appear attractive to men. This book also includes several spanking scenes whenever the eighteen year old flapper character Sheila gets a bit above herself. Her older male relatives publicly spanker seemingly with the full approval of her parents. Roger Sheringham even swaps over the magazine himself at one point. I think these scenes would have raised the eyebrows of in Nineteen ninety-six. After all it's not like Agatha Christie Dorothy l say as we're including such things in their books. And to the modern I, they are truly strange and distasteful interludes dudes defined in a detective novel and this unsettling effect isn't just confined to this one book. You'll find it wherever you dive into the Buck Buchanan Martin. Says I think the? Office one of those writers they will always be a bit of a mom I brush just as of marmite individual I think and. Also, you don't really get him. Thing think that was probably shooting. The first is certainly true now but I think if you're interested in Ingenuity Klatt ride as a touch of darkness, 'cause the survey assaulted darkness in his personality. Comes through books I. Hope You can begin to see from what we've said so far that Barkley is complex difficult figure in detective fiction. I think sometimes today the stories from the Nineteen Twenties and early thirties get a reputation for being vintage and wholesome. But that most certainly isn't true of his work. Do I really think that this is an impression that justified more broadly either. But absolutely not when it comes to Antony Barclay who's also the author of the titillating me titled the Silk Stocking Murders. In his book, the Golden Age of murder Martin Edwards. Reveals a tantalizing clue to the cause of Barclays reticence about being more of a public figure. He quotes from biographical note that bought he writes about his detective Roger Sheringham, who's also an author. It says that quote privately, he had quite a poor opinion of his own books. Combined with the horror of ever becoming like some of the people with whom his new work brought him into contact authors who take their own work with such deadly seriousness talk about it all the time and consider themselves geniuses. I don't know who these self aggrandizing writers were. It's hard not to read. This sentiment is coming straight from Barclay himself rather than just being something he invented for his detective to say. Distant as he was, Balkany had already found that crime fiction in the late nineteen twenties was a far more lucrative endeavor than the comic sketches, his writing earlier in his postwar career. And in nineteen twenty nine, he published a book that many was his crowning achievement. The one that cemented his status among the greats. After. The break the poison chocolates case. This episode is brought to you by best fee. It's a really casual mobile puzzle game that anyone Compla- and you can play as much or little as you like instant. Enjoy it. I'm still devoted to this game and right before recording this I beat level six hundred to two something I'm incredibly proud of the game gets updated every month with new levels. So it's always evolving and adding new puzzles fire exciting side quests. As you progress through each level, you collect new characters and add them to your team few challenges. And now I'm longtime player. I'm pretty proud of this go defense that I've got to throw at each new level. I think any she done at listeners who loves solving puzzles. We'll get a lot out of this game. You can engage your brain with fun puzzles and collect tons of cute characters while also enjoying the brightly colored visuals. Trust me with over one hundred, million downloads. This five star rated mobile puzzle game is a must play. You can download best fiends free on the apple APP store or Google play. That's friends without the. Best fiends. The poisoned chocolates case is a masterpiece. There's no two ways about it. Once again as Roger Sheringham, but he's far from the only sleuth we see in action in this plot. Sharing him here is the president of the crime circle a group of half a dozen amateur sleuths he liked to meet and talk about cases over dinner. The book opens with such an evening and the guest of honor is Scotland Yard Inspector. And he gives them the particulars of a high society poisoning case that has the official detectives completely stumped. The crime circle members decide that they will each investigate separately and then take it in turns to reveal the solutions one evening at a time and see if any of them can succeed whether police have failed. What you get in essence is a whodunit with six different solutions. Each detective works from the same initial information and then goes out to investigate for themselves, following their own chosen methodology and pet theories. Each solution that they arrive at demonstrates the benefits and limitations of a different approach to detection as well as the character's personality and prejudices. In a way balked making fun of the murder mysteries conventions at the same time that he's pushing them to their limits. If the fundamental question, Rebecca cried, this is who done it. Then the answer here is this person know that one no somebody else and so on. It's a great book for those who liked to try and beat the detective to the solution themselves to. I don't mind telling you that the first time I read it, I was feeling very smug through solutions one to four. Only to have my version appear as number five, not number six, they've been two more possible solutions added since Barkley published this book by the way in Nineteen, seventy-nine Cristiana brand published another one and in two thousand sixteen, Martin? Edwards. Added his own for the British library reprint. Barkley, wasn't the first to write a who done it with multiple solutions But he certainly brought wider attention to the idea that there could be more to a crime story than just murder investigation. Then you more he really was very influential. The coffee detaches store in many ways is poisoned chocolates case with multiple solutions. Multiple solutions which used law by John Dixon Car Christian brand other artists Balk, at very brilliantly, and that was a book of Wisdom. I, it inspired many other rights, but he also wrote the book which as far as I now stumped corrected was the first murder mystery novel where the identity of a Cole says deliberately withheld from the Raid Elec snowed the Detectives Association. Additional puzzle but who was demand And DC that idea used successfully even in very recent times, we see fi way. OFF ELEMENTS THAT STORY AS NOT JUST A. Mystery bats. So that was an innovation when she's not how much credit for. A also, quite significant. The poisoned chocolates case and Barclays innovation in the genre more generally. And him the admiration of his peers even if as a person, he wasn't always the most friendly why think a crime rides? He was huge MoD I think. Is Detective novels and she was big found. Those Al size to in the early days allow I. also think that that personal relationship at a few fat box during the Nineteen Thirty S. Is Different custom. Dorothy off of the easiest either. had. A. A slightly makes time as frats, but I think generally is a huge amounts of critical admiration for his were around the time that the poisoned chocolates case was published in nineteen twenty nine Barclay also began to work on bringing one aspect of that story into being. In. The book his sleuth is part of a crime circle and clearly derives great pleasure from having colleagues. And so in life, Barkley began to bring together crime writers. Fitness could talk shop make friends and otherwise share their enthusiasm for own aspects of detection. By nineteen thirty these gatherings had become formalized and the group became known as the Detection Club with Barclay is one of the prime movers. I covered this much more detail on a previous episode in which Martin? Who is the president of the Present Day Detection Club. talked us through that history. So do go back and listen to that if you haven't already. Around the same time that the club was getting started Barkley was also at work on a new literary project he had ideas about how the detective novel could incorporate more psychological tension. And how the reader's sympathies could be manipulated to blur the boundary between good and bad guilty and innocent. The to being so black and white in the genre to date in nineteen thirty one he published a novel that embodied his ideas on this malice aforethought. But for at least a year afterwards, nobody knew that it had been written by Barclay. He had gone digging back through his mother's aristocratic family tree and found an ancestor called Francis, eyles ah black sheep and a smuggler. That was the name he chose for the author of this novel, and the identity of aisles was a secret. He kept very closely victim glance his publisher smartly leapt aisles was the pen name of an already well known writer. which through literary London into a frenzy of guessing. According to Barclays Biographer Malcolm, Tumble Popular choices included Ian Foster H. HD wells Aldous Huxley Em Della field, and rose MacAulay. Although it seems that at least some critics had worked out sooner. It wasn't until his nonfiction book England was published in Nineteen thirty four that Buckley confirmed that Francis Iles AB Cox and Barclay World the same writer. Malice aforethought stands out among the Plethora of detective novels published in the Early Thirties. Because of the way, it turns the by now familiar conventions of the genre on the head. It's narrated by the murderer who reveals his identity to the re day in the novel's opening line. Barclays great achievement with this book is making it compulsive reading despite the fact that you know who did it right from the start? He even makes you root for the murderer at times as the as with ideas of blame and guilt alongside the unraveling of crime. Franz his follow up book nineteen. Thirty two's before the fact simile confound expectations we have for murder mystery story. Albeit in a different way in that one, you never really find out who did it after all The remarkable thing about Anthony Buckley is that he only wrote crime novels for about fifteen years. His first came out in ninety, twenty five and his last in one, thousand, nine, hundred nine, which compared to the careers of Christie Marsh Allingham and Mitchell that spanned decades Israeli an extremely short period of time. He lived until nineteen, seventy-one to. But something stopped him in his tracks to the onset of the Second World War I think probably a mix of reasons he said he wasn't making enough money from the crime fiction on flying skeptical balancing excuse I think he lost his stat Iran Alaska in the. Late. Sixties to arrive George Bellas is often Poston Push Library service and the effect Tobel auto loans the Gosto believe me goes a thing that that came from La I think he just lost is infused asam designed the energy that the him wyking very phonetically almost in the center of. The nineteen thirties when he did a lot of books and then I suspect mainly because of issues discuss ally just lost that Zach. and. Maybe half an extreme. Case of writer's block that's been suggested to me by family. Remember that was the impression i. It's hard to tell because he was quite secretive but I think that. Enough in ILLESCAS enthusiasm for writing fiction. He continued to enjoy reading Buckley continued to review crime fiction. I'm by no means abandoned his interest in the genre. He just didn't publish any more stories of his own. Part of that was personal doubt but Martin also thinks that the fading fortunes of the Golden. Age. Detective novel had something to do with it to the second world. War Did change everything on the phone fame as a day was that the books of the previous the green enormously fashionable were no longer of such interest much less appeal to the critics locate the new writers like Josh Is. A Jalen Simmons. And Vassal tops lesson just publishes. So that were a number of golden age time rises not we stood united. States is simply to get the books published a troll crystals is an exception to every rule. Nilesh was high profile advice successful but golden age alot books of that time continue to be read and Gospel there continue to get. Another the golden age as a pair of burning tencent in innovation seems to me to come to then with wool. Was a key part of that innovation his passion for true crime. He's interest in pulling psychology into the puzzle plot. And his insistence that every book should push the genre in new and different way should mean that there's no appreciation of crime fiction in the Nineteen Twenties and thirties that excludes him. About, his personal reticence and the darker aspects of his personality, make him a difficult writer to love in his entirety. There's absolutely nothing cozy about Anthony Barclay. But his work is still fascinating in all its bleak dark parity. Nights joy and you can do worse than to delve into the pages of Antony bought the book I'm plumbed the depths of his mind. This episode done it was written. By Me Caroline Hampton and edited by you and Michalis find show notes at cheat on it show dot com slash Antony Barclay whether it will also be links to the sources for this episode and further reading suggestions on the topics covered. I provide transcripts for every episode of the podcast them at she done it show dot com slash transcripts. If you become paying sports or of the broadcast, you'll get early access to every episode of the podcast with no advertising. As well as the chance to join the excellent she done it book club. Community. Joy Now she done it book club Dot com slash join. 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875 Kurt Hegetschweiler: Building Industry
"Here's what's next on the nice guys on bist daring port monster things back to leadership. Is you need to see self as the process too, many people out there in any industry. See they clients as the pros unite the costs got some money in the hands. Let's do whatever they say, I John also how hot and it's now broadcasting from the hatchback of seventy two Ford Pinto broadcasting from a secret bunker underneath fort mckenry broadcasting from the abandoned food court to the white Flint mall broadcasting live from their mother's basement broadcasting from no closer than one hundred dollars from their court mandated distance from Tim Ferriss fraud casting from the back room of ILD polio. Llermanos it's Los Chico's day needs a porn Negocios need an education on how to grow your business. The nice guys are here to help. Learn about great customer service networking, and how just being nice can help you prosper now. Hero your host, Doug Sandler and Strickland. Bonner? All right. So somebody played a challenging joke. They thought hey, let's give the guy. That's got the most challenging last name to actually pronounce on the show for me today, and, you know, eight hundred ninety some odd episodes later, Kirk Hegi Schweiler, it looks nothing. Like, it sounds the spelling, but it kind of maybe looks like it. But this dude, he's legit. So check this out. So he's a fourteen year building industry business coach he's known as the millionaire maker so and I'm gonna challenge I'm going to challenge them a little bit. And give them some pushback today's. So we can see if there's somebody in our nice guy community that can actually become a millionaire using Kurtz methods and his methodology is helped builders and building contractors run more profitable businesses. But if that's not you stay here because it's not just for building contractors and builders, it's for really anyone that wants to build a seven figure business, and he's helped some of these businesses achieved a seven figure net profit within three years. He's the. Founder of builders coach and the author of million dollar biller and international bestselling book in three business categories in five countries Faulk, I haven't even done it in like I thought I thought I was like a big deal. Now actually have a big deal in the show. So Kurt welcome to the nice guys on business podcasts. Thanks ready at you have me, I'm happy to have you here. And I'm so glad that that bestseller publishing put us in touch with each other. So I wanna start here. So when did you know that what you do is actually your your your genius? Because what's interesting about it is, and I know nice guy can going to be you don't know Kurt. And I've only had a chance just to do, you know the last couple of weeks since he's been booked to do some research on it. But when was it that you actually knew how good you actually were doing what you do? Man. That's a good question. I mean, I've been doing this for forty years. You had to pinpoint when at all stood a clicked authentic. Look, it was when off started generating big result small clot. So the name of books called million dollar builder and I'm based on for adding a million dollars to a building about two other niche businesses as well nation is crucial in terms of penetration and getting specific results getting real cut through in particular industry better. It was when Stargate eighty dollars results a seven figure results clients, and then the money was coming full myself as while a realize look onto something here. And this is how to do things then you get the a lot of different points. Points of reference help you God people that days as a point when all that comes together, and you can provide gardens whilst in the flow. So while things happening it's not so much by numbers. It's very very individualized process. And it's sorta hard to put your finger on but also posit elyssa tossing with the ten thousand dollars is a certain point way. You just not you can see things that most people called, and then the results come from the so how much of is is it that it's on a business plan kind of outlined. This is the way that we're going to go in. This is the the track that we're gonna go down, and how much of it is just understanding how how creativity ebbs and flows as things are happening in your business. You have to learn to change be adjustable MB willing to be willing to not necessarily stay on the same path that you stayed on. Like, we got into this podcast space originally to promote my book. Would ultimately happened was our six-figure idea came out of us just doing our podcast long enough. Some people said y-, you gotta teach us how to do what you've done with your podcast, some how much of it is following that business plan when you first get involved versus understanding what the importance is to be able to like kinda shift on a dime. Man. Look, I'll think it comes down to they certain things that are going to shift in China, Tom, and you want to you want to be moving quickly. The other thing is they change it. If they'd any certainty is that things are gonna change more rapidly. All it's on. So it comes down to value is no you're values helps Mike decision biking easy. Knowing your next you've got a disloyal McNish, and then but in terms of a business plan. I mean, you don't own a plan more than three months ahead. It's good to know your endgame while you in business what he went. Join a built a stink to sell it or a brilliant forever business. But in business plan, we we will on three months twelve weeks. And then things things can change very quickly. They're going be allocated China bandits into such probably more. It's probably seventy thirty. I think by study percent, you can send a lock it in. And then the rest is you've got to you got to think on your feet and recognize the opportunities that that on front of you in law. With what's important, you evaluates locking down the valleys nine what you want endgame guy Watson's is helps what do you think? What do you think are some of the common errors that people? Make when they're when they're thinking about okay, I've been I've been doing my own thing. Now, I can't seem to get out of this the same groove spending more time being busy and not enough time being productive or I'm spending so much time working, you know, in my business that I don't have any time to work on my business. What are some of the common mistakes that people generally make when they're when they're getting underway? Okay. So look, this is what I'll see you, right? Got strong people trying to figure it out for themselves. So that might be working in the business. Too much hitting doll ceiling that making money, but what can why to hog dunno? Dunno which software program, should they use next house less structured who should employ next? So there's a lot of uncertainty in the not very clear, but they will so very stressed, and they managing the energy well in that sort of way to turn its melt that defeat in terms of that next step really that will look into on someone who has already done with. I wanna do United sound so common sense than it is man quick story. Sure. Shade this on an interview lost Wiki sandy ago. There was a new draw that picked me up the not before mine to the Susan San Diego at this guy was business owner and had the successful businesses. 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She know people personally said pied them, if you have to ask them to help you already had the onces so get get a conscious of mental out a lot of all Japan is farm that difficult because I you know, they that's not employable. It's while they won't show preneurs that very independent that do that and saying so some funded difficult to put the hand up and also help really is the single most intelligent thing. You can do you got that from tiny Rowland's now on what you wanna do. Success these clues. And that's what I'll do. I've young people come into me now, and I'll just Karimi ost they competitive luck in literally get into seven figures net profit off the why ges Yang. I'm talking about twenty nine year old people in a flying pulse. Gaza in the light fifties. And doing it within three years three the less. And what do you think the reason why they have because they have found someone that has done what they wanted to do. And just kind of said, okay. I'm just going to be willing to to follow. The the advice that this guy is given me he's made seven figure showing may. As well. Follow the seven figure guy tricked hundred percent. I mean to that is complicated. And that's impo luck. Here's a guy that it's already done. What a wanna do? It doesn't mean. It's going to be on. Is going to be just recap. Exactly what it is. It doesn't work that why they still everyone's different everyone different aspirations in galls in different business. So these little nuances in the one percent is which someone from the outside looking in can help with but rarely most of its day ID percent of its they it's already being done is no need to reinvent the wheel. I go back to I go back to this review that I got an, you know, I if you if you have any kind of backbone which most of the time, I don't just a little I'm a little Wimpy. So I I'm the guy that tends to focus on some of the negative stuff as opposed to some of the positive stuff. I've had something like one hundred plus five star reviews of my book on Amazon, and then I get this two star review. And it's like the review was done. You know, there's like nothing new no business principles here in this book. And it's like, maybe this is a book for beginners or maybe. And I'm thinking is soon as I can get everybody to return. My phone calls return. My emails to tell the truth not to over promise and under deliver the on time for the meetings. I'm going to keep talking preaching it because the. Problem is that most people don't return my phone calls in not just me specifically, but don't return phone calls at all and at any kind of timely fashion. It's like when when can you get away from the basics? You never can get nice guy community. You can never get away from the basics. What courtesy hang is. Listen, you want to be a millionaire find a millionaire and get them to teach you what they've done. Why does it have to be any more difficult than that M A? I know him a little emotional about it. But am I am I far off target Kerr? Now, he's fought on. I mean, that's I mean, that's all that's all audited to get to a I m I looked at what? And you look you can take from different industries. You can find people who've done something similar to what you wanna do. You can trust Paula night from a sister nighboring industry, and that, and that's that's all that anyone who's the cheap significant success on this planet has evidently he's nothing new under the sun probably heard that Roth. It's up DS from what's a ready after look what's out there. Swap and deploy and. And what's your thought about just curious what you thought about franchises? I know that I know that there isn't you know, those are systems that are in place. Now, a franchise like McDonald's franchise, you'll make a lot of money, but it will also cost you a lot of money up front. Do you believe in franchises? Or is that something that you kind of shy away from now believe in franchises? I'll a franchisee myself early on I experienced my parents were any business. I was completely green did the research hood, the statue ninety percent found the first five years then that twenty percent that gets through EDI. File you got one hundred on south border. That must intelligent thing. You can do is buy a franchise loss. If you're brand new DHS business, if you not the reality is you need to know, you're gonna outgrow the franchise at some point which happens to be as well. Right. So if you can access mentor coach, you can help you build your own saying if you'd rather go business experience that outside got on that coffee to completely green you want to offset the risk, which is really important business route offsetting risk than buff ranchos. What's the what's the first thing that you do when somebody comes into your gets on your client list? And you say, okay, here's what we did. I mean, I I know that everybody is is unique in they have their own skill set. And they have their own things that are there their blocks in their life. But what typically is something that you would do in those early stages when you were meeting with somebody to determine, you know, what their what their next their next move or with their path is going to be. Lou at the end of the dry, the success in business end with begins ends with the lead. It's all about leadership and a hallmark leadership's decision by Consol. I'm looking at the individual leader of the business of what's up animal? Emma, dealing with you because they modest successful business on his staff. They are on that resilient that go carry that Donald a personal developments. I'm that feel us it off season. Everything on the spectrum seen GAAS at off when we looked at them and said, look, I don't think he cut out for business. You just have to Mike Harmon frost decisions you gotta get chewed up spat. If you got it yet, if you got the reality is these people eat the young everyday of the week in the business world. So I'll look at them. I look at the thinking the decision by making ability and get into to two on the positive sum puzzle element. If they not ready and thinking big as well. Because is your business will never have grow your leadership. Wow. Yeah. That's a that's John Maxwell to the degree your business will. Yeah. Totally one hundred percent right in it is so true. You have to think it before. It's actually going to happen. I'm not saying that in a in a in a hoity toity. Woo kind of way, the reality of it is you gotta you gotta think it into reality. And without that, it's just not going to happen. It will net your business will never outgrow your thinking at all. Curate ain't gonna think it with conviction. So that's where that feels snus comes in your think big as well. Whatever goals you've got Mike and look small 10x electron on talks about that's the great concept. Expand your thinking by most people have these living self confined, these limitations of the Chrysler himself. This little cage living real limits are y beyond you'll potential is white white beyond am any goals that you set this all sides. It's about expanding thinking doing it with conviction grinding pay grow some bowls and have bear in mind is the most successful you become the more. You're gonna get habit. Especially in the with a win us Hamid heights. People criticize you got to allocate your FOX's, all as importantly, what I've enjoyed so much about Kurtz website is is blog. He's got a whole bunch of of of posts that he's written over the last several years, you know, just some of the titles, the, you know, your break even point should be. Should you be charging for your? Quotes that was a really good one. As a matter of fact, that would be the probably the first one that I if you're in any kind of high ticket item, and I think it doesn't necessarily apply if you have easy items to quote, like something that's just a a commodity, and but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you feel the same way about this. But a high ticket items where you're spending a lot of time quoting are you charging for your quotes things like your price is too high million dollar builder marketing replay? I mean, all when do you need to fire yourself? I mean, these are really really gold. These articles definitely worth a worth a peek, and you can just go to builders, coach dot com forward slash blog. And check out all of these posts. I wanna talk just for a moment just about about one or two of these. If I could can I can I fire. I I know I'm probably hitting you out of left field with a euro is your this blog two years ago on on on word seventeen years is it. Okay. If I just ask you a question or two about your blogs nugget? Awesome. Awesome. While one of the things that you have in here. I want I want to start with the one that I was just recommending should you be charged. For your quotes, a lot of people would say, you know, it's just the nature of the business. I live in a bid business. I live in a I live in the the only way I'm going to get it is if I bid it now, you're telling me Doug that I need to charge for my quotes. I don't know how my market is going to respond to that. What do you say something like that? I guess the first thing there is if you're gonna if you're gonna do what everyone else does then you're gonna get the same results as everyone else. Did you want to be a million dollar, whatever you gotta need to do things differently suburbs? Losers about adding value. You're gonna charge for crutch lucky conscious turn up as a contract, for example. And so I'm going to charge you for everyone else is doing it for free. The person's gonna tell you to get stuff you've got a package that you've got to sign a people, and and you've got to educate them or oughta the best form of marketing need is he's education by small cutting educate people on the reason why I should buy for a quote, unless you you for as it relates to the benefit today. So yeah. In the building industry must people must Bill doing frequents. Some God saw that puzzled while to for what reason are nine miles doesn't any industry. But what what happens is. It kills the trust in industry because most crawl Don for free a crack addict percent of on a with the pipe that I written on and must allow people unaware of this. I'd be educate them on the allows. Aw, it's must be shuttered. Fifteen hundred bucks to get a quote that is done according to process, but some of the best estimate is in the country. There's a bit of quantities is the definite breakout Anonciata percents all of accuracy so package the value show them why it's Enam best interest to do it. And then people don't have a problem. Oh, I love that. I love and I agree with you. I mean, I I find myself sometimes wanting to to say I'm gonna charge you for the quote and oftentimes more times than not I find myself providing the quote thinking, I it's it's that small mentality. It's the mentality. That says I need the business rather than the mentality says, I'm independently wealthy and don't need the business. Sometimes it's it's a little bit frightening to do it. I mean, it sounds great. It's just a scary thing to do in a world that is full of people just quoting and you're right. I could spend thirty or forty five minutes, or maybe even our putting together a quote, and I'm thinking this is pulling time away from actually some money making activities that I could be doing right now. So I do. I agree with you. I just have a hard time sometimes putting into action into action. I think that that's oftentimes why somebody needs a coach to help them through that through that process is at that. Sound right? Yeah. Hundred percent looking if you fearful of losing the job lick because you probably don't have enough enquiries coming through. Well, then you'll get a marketing problem because really what you wanna have is an other flying pop lawn of quantity inquiries, coming straight way. You you have to sign other people you have to call yesterday. If you don't have been trickling story. Let's marketing problem yellow daring port monster things has gone back to leadership is you need to see a self as the process too, many people out there in any industry. See they clients as the pros. Unite the cost got some money in the hands. Let's do whatever the eyesight John also how hot it needs to be around. You see a self as the president needs to be era Ghent about it. But recognize the belly that you add an if you know, if you can't see that you don't adding value since then you've got an issue this. A trailing of everything we do is about the pursuit of excellence and rising standards. And when you got it on that pause. And you keep doing that you keep adding Batty you keep getting better you'll wake up one day. He'll be out in that blue ocean be out on your own, and you'll have a whiting this the people, you know, people ready to pry you holding the puzzles that's beautiful, and what's really interesting about. It is the beginning at the at the start of our conversation. I did say I was going to challenge you to make sure that that your that your words, and the and the, and I guess the steps the process the path that you're going to lead people down is not necessarily just a path that builders will be able to go down. Nice guy community old Kurt responsible for for this. And hold them. Hold them accountable for for making sure that that what he is doing through coaching actually will work as you have heard it for the last thirty minutes, it will actually work in any business. It really does not need to be the the building business. So ultimately, if somebody came to you, what would be like an ideal environment for you too. To to step into or, you know, where where do you want people to be in business before they approach it would seem like it might be a challenge of some was brand new and business, but maybe not. So who ultimately would be the ideal client for you? Audio Claude someone with. Huge desire, and this is it's quick and easy for me to tell a good. You've got a lot of Embiid. You've got a strong strong desire to want to add value, and to rice standards in particular industry. And you've got that just that knowing you can speak to someone that you can just see this goes on a mission in the this woman's on a mission that got that Bernie desire to to have a crack at something. It doesn't matter if it's early on will allied in the peso, that's probably the single most important thing in business business can be cruel and Kanji. Now, what has seventy on a heart's on? You gotta get you gonna take a few knocks. If you've got burning desire, you'll be able to push through and achieved significant results. So that would be the the other autumn factor NFL site. Yeah. Seconds to that would be the the openness and willingness to Bryce marketing marketing hunting ground business in this night of the mentioned before it's education buys Balkany. But really beyond that, it's becoming a marketing influence, you gotta put yourself out there. You gotta be kind with. Getting the would senior self as the prize and letting people know that you all good at what you do this. It's gonna hardawy, someway, you never going to be successful. So you've got a again, the sent it that Kabul as looking for so nice guy community once again, make sure you check out a Kurtz website at builders coach dot com, regardless of the industry that you're in whether you are a builder or someone that is just trying to build a business and that actually would be a good. Yeah. It's still even if even though you focus or you had focused in the past a lot on builders. I mean I- builders coach I mean, it's it's like you are building your building their business don't necessarily have to be listed. If you can do it in the building business shit with as much competition in that business. It would seem like it'd be easy to do it in any other business as well. A hundred percent if we had beauty salons couches. Well, tribes college him, we work with plumbers electricians anyone out there. Who would? I mean, if someone wants to get involved in coaching business wants to rice stands in the industry, we all do to talking to to them about how we can show them the right methods still context context might happen. And that's a seven figure business Woking from Hawn helping people which is you know, that is that. It's a great fulfillment opportunity. Mike, you very very happy doing that. That's what a work. But yes, if someone just wants to make seven figures, regardless of the the industry happened. It's okay today, and you can tell them this community would not be a challenge to be able to sit on the on the phone or or zoom with Kurt. Just listening to his voice for seventy five minutes or ninety minutes at a time. I'm I'm sure you'll get a lot of lady inquiries from my for my you're okay. With with women calling. You right. One hundred percent. Yeah. I'm not a I'm not a sexist. That's awesome. So once again, the the site is builders, coach dot com. And and I'm sure he's got I'm pretty sure I didn't check it out on your website. But I'm sure you have maybe contact me page or something like that. So that people can get to that. And see see a little bit more for you. Absolutely. Very easy. Contact us Scott the contact us by an Email. I'll end up being touch Welker. I I really appreciate your message. Thanks for rolling with the punches and thanks for for actually rising to the occasion meeting the challenge in actually, you know, being that coach that could could could, you know, help anybody to that seven figure income regardless of the industry, and I'm looking forward to getting some positive results from our community. I want to know that first person that signs up with you. I want to know because I wanted I want to track them. I'd be happy to do a a case study. So nice guy community anybody that's in the community that that decides to hire her to do what he does week. And we'll we will follow you using our using our show will get you back on the show. We'll get Kurt back on the show, and he'll. Walk you through walk us through what he has done to to help you which again will we'll help promote other people doing the same thing. So Kurt thanks again. For your message today. You can thank you that that is brilliant. Matt anyone out there wants to make a million bucks? The next three years contact me. Let's make it happen. Let's get on the shell a guy in and talk about how he did it. It's going to it's going to hurt a little in the beginning. Because I'm you know, me I'm gonna make fun of you in the beginning. But that'll be fine. Because what you'll put me to shame. When you're showing me the first seven figure year, and I am happy to I'm happy to eat my words as you do it. So nice guy community. Never underestimate the power of nice again special. Thanks to Kurt for being on the show today all his information, including access to his website, which is builders. Coach dot com will be directly in the show notes. Click the shown on to get all of his information again builders, coach dot com. Steve O'Brien, go ahead and take us out of here. For the nice guys on business. I'm Steve O'Brien. Philip your week with the nice guys. Well, there's always money in the banana stand.
The Relationship Series (Part 1)
"Welcome acquired these sporting that is pock is podcasts at challenges through clever narrative original and really sad tired of the audience fair push them towards their own personal. This is by no means admission to more passed on but instead occurs showcase tips perspective they might not have to showcase our mind is not a joke and if a person control their mind and ultimately able to control their life. I WanNa talk about friendship and support because I feel like people don't support you. You get on especially sometimes in our community. They now support you into like you made it or you get up there but when you start from the bottom the people of barely there or I don't need nobody. All I need is need bread is all I need inside of but welcome welcome back. This is the first part of a four part series. We're talking about relationships with this talking about friendships today. This is again a relationship series part one the main reas- you need friends. Maybe not that many blessaun this rationing after like came from you know just sitting in my car one day email like I do and I was trying to get energy to get out the car. 'cause I know have energy to get out the car for whatever reason some hit me said you you didn't thought about friendships as far as relationship goals so I'd say you know what let's do and these myself. Sam Rationing came from an episode that I did actually did episodes in the first season about friendships saying that you know you all you hang around with then we come from different perspective so I have to guess today. We're going to start lifting go left tuition name where you from my name's Tammy and nails the right camera military do all right the nerdy dis floral all right so star left GonNa lift up when you hear the word friendship was the what come see my work okay working with them different ones. I thought that our so the synonyms for friendship include Brotherhood causing this fellowship according to a leak daily Dot Com article titled The size of Friendship. It said if life is ward they friends are best allies. They're the ones we call him as a battle ahead and we're going to need some help they're the ones who come in where we get coast to defeat. They're the ones who've been there supporting us through our numerous losses and gains okay now after reading that sound like some off the days. Do you have any friends that have been therefore you through thick and thin my friend Arianna. I met her output Sakala Jackson State. I met her Jackson so two thousand later Okra mcgrew live some caucus. We know of some a s to give. I like that Yeah Lacey Navien. You got friends like that. You have a few. I'm not magnum because you know you have to drop names sheet persons. I Yeah I do my friends recent rainfall of whoever you all because I don't know cause Arianna Guerande right. That's the same way Oh from the okay gashing guided guy all right so is a poor system that need that is necessary to our sovereignty interesting perspective is the thing about it every day. Powell be nothing without allies Strength Independent on the strength of our friendship so I like how kind of comes with that angle like you know. You can't do it on your own and I I do agree with that because society makes the same. All we need is ourselves in. I just feel like that's not. That's a toxic mindset because you can't do everything you know. You don't know everything that's why that France the balance where you like your friends can pick up exactly so life has has way showing into. I thought that I'd need nobody are needed any hill ninety two in life to everything headway in I needed help in you made me lightweight good mega yet so candidates by myself then he asked his personality is just. I didn't mean to do something so they know me this. Have you feel like you know the difference between a friend and somebody just cordial with associate could you have those people like you are not really friends but if he wanted to the girls on Friday by girl come on girls yea baton y'all who but you might not be there. Fraying you have rains Ohio is like you. You have certain people that you could do certain things but I feel like my braids. I can do everything with you but I have those people that I can do sedentary. Three and not because we're not really France <unk> a family life time and you know what this one of the day I WanNa talk about friendship and support because I feel like people don't support you feel like you get on especially sometimes in our community community. They don't support you until like you made it or you get up there but when you start from the bottom of stuff people barely there or less support support for me like site Francis. If you have something you don't say even the right okay you should be supporting your stuff and we talked about this on the laws episode belie. 'cause you being loyal to your friends brand like even if you don't have a shirt maybe you don't have the money maybe <unk> feel like by on at the moment I'm going to be reposting Uber Liar every promotion everything I think red meat support like it really goes of a long way like it takes five seconds Jacobs to repose tag mentioned my in it takes like just so little time in when you don't participate in that it speaks volumes for me like so you don't mess me the way I thought you does offer you but this sounds so say like sanity shoreline now by the shape. Some people don't realize just posted support saw flight as a conversation of the habit job ran on what that looks like for them because like I say that me reposted me is doing something even if I don't buy the product whatever it view at the moment but not everybody some people feel like you're not supporting spending money but that's a conversation day needs to take place between those two things because a lot of people don't realize that friendships require just as much work in communication is regular relationship with your partner. I think once that once that gets understood in one shot a foundation I feel comfortable enough with saying okay. Hey Yeah you re posted but I kind of need you to buy something in seriously. Please race in the then you give me give me how you feel about it. Yeah and we come to some type of mutual understanding in it's just honestly it's that simple because when communication communication and understanding is there the we should be able to come to <music>. You're I grew to like. I said I mean me personally like if you just repulsed myself I'm good. You can't buy them from the year but you know better than me but I just feel like it's a network irritates me when people support everybody else but you so. Are you telling me so you saw me. Let me the rebrand be my friends. They be repulsed and everybody else boone was yours. Rely Klatches moree examiner free shipping might even need to be friends because at this point if you only need to check cloudy you can't support me we got on the same page the fact that you said so you get on and they'd be this hobby but you ain't giving me like forget any pitcher. No likey don't do people could say oh. I didn't see we used to all live. I'll be sitting around just be scrolling out. Watch people look at myself and scroll right pets and not likely to not be like in. I'll take my finger right baking lanky. Let me show you what she's supposed to be. Maybe some people don't have are so this is my list. I feel like of friendship. Doing I'm leaving. You know room for your air too so again. We talk about support. I have your back on somebody clowning. You like you gotta come. Tell me what they say. These suggests clown them back just showdown at South Street. Don't let us as for example so y'all he cannot attend issue. My friend like white and you know what some people say that but some people don't care 'cause I've watched people. Come talk to me about somebody. No I'm close with my very best friend in does not care so some people don't care the same scenario. How tammy was fun? If I laugh at it or <hes> anything other than saying you can't talk about my free to me like you can have that conversation somebody else. Some type of shutdown needs to take place if you are able to laugh or comment on what the person just said now we have a problem. I really care about the person that personnel my they have whatever but you you different now I will say this now. If somebody say something if it's fun it doesn't have any. I'm the type person all right now uh-huh now card decline. I can't say that a hard time. He just got wrong number over are so I I say listen to your friends problems. I have sometimes I say sometimes because I've had experience with people were just extremely negative and you don't want to deal with <unk>. Point is going away down on you. It's not a problem over. Never I had to learn like okay look I. I can't listen to this and if you say something there is like somebody might try to say oh you not being a good friend but at this age you have to understand you millennial age so even at that age you have. You know which I can't do that learning early to 'cause. I didn't learn to like last year to have a fan shaped like she knows is certain topics. I'm like night interesting because we keep having the same conversation over never gaining keep doing the same thing with the same results so you figure it out until you're tired of it. I don't WANNA keep. Talk Nutty mine is relationships. We talking about the same do that. You've been dealing with over her changing. I nothing to sit here on fell in in talk to you about it especially when you just stay in like it my biggest problem when it comes to relationships in women I'm in constantly sandy's Ukraine want something better in you say he wants bitter and yet you not doing what it takes to get something better in the negative energy in your space in not allowing something positive come along. I don't WanNa talk about it by now for me. I'm we all know. I like heights of have a good time but at the same time I feel like you should have friends of people in your circle. That's down to build an empire. You know let's stop always going out like I mean is it's cheesy. What is true? You Got Twenty Years Attorney with but you don't a three of them to talk about business in what you're doing with your future like. I feel like that should be a conversation at this point now at the same time. I feel like you can work with everybody. You circuited everybody. Everybody don't have the same type of visas mindset that you have don't have the same type of US online that you have in when it comes to building a business and building a bring on I go see dedication. You might be dedicated slack off in picking a ball out of the way project that one person doing. Everything's just following by local you said education is the Knicks coastline ally budgets lifestyle wrapping. It seems okay Lisi Bush. Did it all right now. I'll have over the next one I say tell the truth no matter how it hurts now if you if your friend cannot tell you the truth then that's not your free or you just don't know which was to be. Maybe a little more. I had to learn that my delivery because it was a mob ahead. It was gene they mean at the Bible night. Everybody could take how I talk so as to learn talk to certain friends can't talk to them are the same with this. This might be able to take my bluntness. How can people be diva? Is it the same way or become people giving life not receiving if I know my friend like if I know rainbows. If I know like I know easy. He talks shape but he I know he don't mean Armand. You know what I'm saying. I know my colleague delivery analysts not they're not being like Eagle contingent behind but some has a more sinister Diam so I had to learn how they are allowed to them. You have friends you can tell the truth to you. Don't really I mean I have some of course but got those that couple where it ain't even can't tell the truth. Do I just don't see I feel like a lot of people have that maybe like one a lot. We all have a mutual person in nobody tells the truth to everybody parades around so our our because they can take they can take and I think there's a line between you know. Tell somebody the truth and not hurting somebody's feelings in Ave. Nobody reading wants to just extremely light cross that line in not not care. I don't care about your feelings before I care about telling me. The truth. Dishes me though because I don't I don't WanNa do anything to hurt you or make you cry. I let me get something <unk>. That'd be <unk> agree with that. They Eh Debbie looking crazy just on the B._M._i.. Delivery I guess I just well you know we talked about on your show which is coming out soon. You talked about writing a little in elbow to your mother do you that you could write a letter to a friend like lead like sixty. Some people might take ochre you remember I used to right from Hong. Give it to her. She'll go really like with our friends will Hamas putting a letter in the meal if I tend to regard people marina how they wanna read it in they already like being sensitive behind you telling them it's just the worst what that's not even how is coming up from like for me yeah but they they ran interpreted because they already sensitive for a better word for me. I have a sense. The humor can't be around the people you gotTa Know How to Laugh Light. I can't be around people just like you can't see my face but I'm making this face cast. It began that what I did. I miss on the list of jobs so that you a friendship should do shouldn't shouldn't later but should do like okay miscommunication definitely communication and then because like if if my friend tells me something in I'd do full type away to communicate like hey this heim zeal even that wasn't attention like just to have a conversation about it because you never wanNA listen to build up in your friend and it's just the same relationship list of the job dude that so that your boyfriend does keep sliding in the opposite you blow on echoes views and I pus- be mad as our I so. So <hes> I went to psychology today friend allergy signs of friendship <unk> blog and the lady who did her name is Suzanne Days White so she said that friendships have themes she said Friendships Arkansas exist when pleasure taken in the company of another when being with someone becomes a duty rather than a preference friendship begins begins to become Wayne Okay so what's your gracefully say is for those that don't get it is your friendship relationships should be a piece piece. It shouldn't have to go around you. GotTa go hang sauce. They do listen to this person. I talked on the phone with some people they just is just not crossing nursery. Go all right so they get every hour so it's the stroke of friendship implies that you know the whole give and take this is not the sense of immediate even exchange rather than supporters expect the flow both ways in east arrived from either parties again what you given what you won't realize what you should give so. We got her claiming where everybody don't do them. Do you do that for them. Do you do what you want to feel you. Can I say everybody might have yet to and that's when we go into the whole cordial and then friend me mean cordial. Okay I mean. I don't think that makes you not friends because if I've Kimber by X._Y._Z. but this is not pray and they can't provide that doesn't make them Lis- offering yeah like us like you just have to know your friend in Mama hundred or seen is not her one hundred percent. It's not one hundred percent you cannot expect everybody to be able to bring which you brain and that's what makes you generally Fran because you know that this is who they are and I said anyway right. It's a level of friendship commitment vary of a lifetime depending on the energy required. How many however many people believe that when crisis strikes true I can be counted on office support regardless of any inconvenience challenges? They may face race to do so. I can say it'd be the people that need arise places. They rising failed all the more they had to stay in. My House. Driving ends up driving winning cool because a lot of my friends at car now so we good on that but it's been cases where people have to stay in my house times we live you know I'm not GonNa say say I'll know <hes>. I just got kicked out. I'm here. I'm straying for these days man. That's crazy crazy person. No come you you hit me with the desk crazy alpha show doing the wire face vase robe was like yeah I mean you were there okay. I I don't know I guess that's a whole nother conversation. At what point do you stop giving or poor being there or you know by. Have you stopped letting people stay. Jimmy stopped giving giving rise. Do you feel like that because of the people who are stop. Let me call you. You call people easy another thing like have you actually been in the position where you have to call on somebody. Somebody had to show with me once before it doesn't happen often but I have before I don't I don't often and I think because I us scared for lack of a better word that under the plane me so you rather not even ask where they can't not be there yeah. I think that's my reasoning admin positions. Were Guil- somebody to show 'cause. I'm like in like I said earlier I haven't been in that position and then life got me in. I start calling Muslim people but at the same time I have friends that upbeat over members Ford done the most for in the moment where I was is depressed stress in going through stuff. I can call on him and the type of rain I was to them in that moment. Kinda change because of where I was in life instead of them you know understanding. We're allies they did you know put it in my head of we're not friends and we never really were because at this point you really showing me who you are. Now you are now. This ain't got nothing to do. 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I saw them like I'm at these me my lights a job and if you were our so then he says models of friendship show that there are two main categories are factors that influence our choice in pursuit of potential friendships that individual factors in environmental factors are individual factors approachability disability social skills self disclosure similarity closeness and it says environmental factors include geography activities in life veins so I guess with that it kind of goes back to what you said earlier when you have friends for different occasions in France that you know every frank can't do everything and I don't mean Alicia friend but like I said if you have individual factors such as y'all similar yeah got maybe the same approach you know you can approach Sam the other ones who you know y'all they do activities or Y'all live in the same area. That's why you offerings that you have friends like Gucci grew up with John Live in the same city which is still closed so I guess it kind of go back to what you say early Kgo showers our way we oh we're at the point where now a baby euro us. You just edge you remember baby showers. We a day shower have one or go to one game. She got she got him. I don't want her to not be there for her plan. She not to get pregnant without me telling the car you know what not to do. They oppose <unk> officials seen it is my Mama when she told me that I could no because if my frames pregnant abby I mean like if I was pregnant for Alvin ideal in his life I can't control you know to in that case Lucy all right so things free should never do from life hack dot org gossip behind your back talked about that earlier resorts a personal attacks into like I understand navy looking back friends and you know what there is going on. A noisy episode is the person who even if you fall out is the person who talk the most chic look worse because you but you will say all this stuff about them in some people say will use to protect him back but I feel like they more stupid for saying stuff about you than Uber Cool but more about the person that went out in actually did all talk year because I don't feel our people in I say nothing even when the information will next meet at this <unk> is still not gone talk bad about you because I'm not that type of person 'cause I like you say I'm GonNa let you the full view. 'cause we pay. We be involved our right. It says that they don't discourage personal rose or GIG quite. I'm end this orgy quietly why we broke up your personal gold people trying to stop this this what we'll talk again come on a day early. Piece is hard to have those friends at the understand your let love like about this year and N._S.. What you gotTA learn to help? You can't talk about this of not <hes> they won't look down from your past than what you gave the past they wanna banning on social situations okay. I I actually do this. I will bring to place in just kind of walk off leaving. It has to be understanding. You just type person you know. Everybody's GonNa go speed and like that but that's just you. I don't think that's bad I do the same thing people like people's People's People's but I feel like even like what you brought needs today kickback night even though on people are still social. I'll have you not like I have to eat it especially when I like further reverse crossover in and I would let Oklahoma party in the less they like Belle harbor me as the valley but even now like my friend is down here and I'm thinking common edition edition because I know a lot of people out Priscilla thousands show might be just be sociable. Everybody is cool like everybody loves to talk to you regardless whether they are not none of that come up to you and you want. They know what my name's Jim how you doing all night. I don't even know Jim our so they said friends shouldn't be Josie your success they should to try to judge or try to fix you yeah. I don't want that mark because if I can make you better or ed to you then I feel like I'm being your friend view. After that way to me I wonder if she was come from Angola of just lie being but again as a thin line between being judgmental in rule <unk>. It's kind of like the whole critic thing is one thing if you've been critical just speak negatively if you're trying to help him fix something different so again you kind of go back to problem solution so just be playing out issues become better right. The most people are not well. I'm just telling you maybe you could find a way to big dogs. Come with A. How are you so they in for tips on my college? Students just real simple as first of all every free you make will not be there forever in college. I don't tell you that the people you meet in college via French Berbere is not that much to like people are in your life or seem to be okay. Let S cub. It's just ideology pass. It is not reason that's has passed in our young balkany growing. That isn't me you're GONNA brought ear charges crawling on different paths basically everything. Every friend needs bet you making these organizations Nacho frank you will make good friends if you open to it. Don't go to college line again with the mindset of I don't need. Nobody all I need is need. Bread is all I need doesn't inside of but you know get into their legs and underside people different cliques a different organization <unk> acquire this whatever your major is okay. It doesn't mean you <unk> like year social. That's the one thing you learn college known learn. The meals says I don't care if you cheated your whole way through college. You can't cheat network. Yes that's a skill that you I've known people who didn't do nothing to college out here making millions on networker so okay that's all. She really shouldn't know she's networking because she needs that means of this you know she took all different. People in different areas open number mouth bill that on the now they got relationship and I can call right salts all right so in the WHO play game time and actual a few questions about friends y'all living. Somebody's throw you off this so uh-huh do you. Is that the handle this hanging Keith. I'M GONNA call the prime so do you have more than five reference now now. Do did you make River College yes. Do you have any childhood friends yes. Do you plan on making any more new friends. Yes I plan only. Do you have more offerings that you can turn up with it. You talk about this week yes. Do you have any friends that you feel you. Secretly K Truss yes but I also think that's just not under fair enough. Yeah <unk> being put in a category interesting in that category. If you were to be stranded right now you back acquires they are they. Do you will see our question. Do you feel as though if you strain the right now that you feeling costs by company will they can get you up. It wasn't that much uh-huh. I'm not no. I really think that you would I wouldn't call because people call you but I feel like you know we will hate you hate them. I don't even answer the phone. He'll be like all U._S._O.. NAP is my guts grinding giddy. We know all right so the question child. Usually I really challenge saw but I want to really sit down. Analyzer friends year analyzer for is made simply. If you have some friends that are good just text inside. I love 'cause I need to know that they're appreciated. Keiko Verena's Geico our carefully reclosed remarks of anything I WANNA flow outside know who your friends are in what you can expect from him and if they numbered expectation you can't get sick you can cut off and communicate expectations because they did not know to expect as a friend. Dan Pilots plus meet the expectation exactly etymologists be make sure that you're being person you one of the people that have been eye garlic regardless of if you know if they're getting exactly act we want this continue to be that person exactly like when you kind of stray off what path that you are you start to block in Michel homeless and the blesses our so thank you all for coming down you gotta come back. I will be time family in blockers okay. Can we do this episode. I alright so thanks to the homeless for the first part of of this four part series job the next four weeks to be crazy. 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Amazon, Real Estate, & Tech Sector
"This portion of pianolas brought to you by Pimco active fixed income solutions that aim to give investors and edge all investments contain risk and may lose value investing in the market is subject to risks consult your investment professional prior to making an investment decision. Welcome to the Bloomberg podcast you investing in the bond market is subject to risks consult your investment professional prior to making an investment decision cloud computing service sector of Amazon that was also a disappointment and arguably as you're making the argument this morning a more significant and secondly it looks as though they are taking a bit of a hit on the marching for Amazon Web services the hugely successful cloud operations thing that's happening both when it comes to e commerce and cloud and therefore warrants opening the the the checkbook a little bit the aws prophets are still disproportionately cute. You know they account for two thirds of the overall prophet of of the business on Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts as well as at Bloomberg Dot com well Amazon reported earnings after the bell yesterday showing the first drop algae columnist for Bloomberg opinion joining from London so Alex we've been talking about all morning Amazon shares falling does seem though that they are still it's still is the biggest player in that space by quite some some distance and the sort of expenditure you need to to get a challenge in in essentially over a year since early twenty seventeen in their earnings and the longer that investors have to digest this the more investors are like you know why we actually kind of like Amazon disappointment than the increased spend and I'm wondering why people seem to be shrugging that off I think maybe the hops the arguments so the Russian all that for that slight decline are merging might be we don't really know but we might be that as we said at ease about defending market share and and more actually a little bit lower discount shares of comeback I one point down more than eight percent now down two point six percent joining us now to discuss Alex Webb we see any meaningful shift not dial then I think people can be very confident in in the Amazon trajectory so let's talk about aws the company that's kind of dialed up expenses dialed down expenses kind of depending upon maybe either kind of what what they need to invest in maybe we'll kind of profits they wanna show so perhaps Google and Alibaba I and you know if you're defending market share than its defensible to maybe sacrifice a little bit of profitability so Alex you know what this is oh the street are we do you get the sense of maybe getting into a phase of higher expenses I think it certainly looks as though the competitive challenges increased but the motivation for that might be about defending its market shad that by by cutting prices they're fending off the incursions of the likes of Microsoft in particular we all yet to see whether really the pushes from the likes of Walmart and target can make real incursion into this ecommerce space I think that the stock something like e commerce accounts for ten percent of all retail in the US and Amazon's about fifty percent of that so they until Aaron generate returns On the one hand we've gotten spending money on on improved deliveries in in acceleration the peso which prime on orders get delivered able is saying why do you think I mean I think that usually when I was in spends money it goes away which just win nature centers is significant These chips Server chips from Intel cost of ten twelve thousand dollars a pop and if you go hundreds of the Nazis doubtless it was once you have a competitive advantage there it is quite hard to displace nonetheless the competitors in the space all very well capitalized and not to be trifled with and is but as long as I was and continues to throw cash and be happy to reinvest it then then you know I it's it's by means a sort of a still a very healthy business so how about one of the businesses that may not be as healthy that's the grocery business I remember them buying I mean generally the push from Amazon into into bricks and mortar is a play which I'm yet to see fully a whole foods or something a year or two ago did they disclose much about their grocery business is that something that they think is going to be a growth driver future they might go online and buy things nonetheless I think it seems terribly compelling a story to tell investors thank you so much for being with US Alex Webb the I end go on the Bloomberg terminal or Bloomberg Dot com slash opinion if you go to the web blamed in in quite how the demolish and profile of that will hold up but you know the the numbers they've disclosed for from whole foods we know that it does seem to have declined in the most recent quarter I think physical stores urine you're growth excluding currency fell by about one percent now that's not a trend and for all of your commentary throughout the morning Alex whip is a Bloomberg opinion technology communist Credo his columns as well as all the other fantastic work put out on opie thanks so much for joining us let's start with the risk arbitrage part of the market give us a sense of how vibrant that is what kind of returns are riskier eight a bit of deal activity not only in traditional merger arbitrage which again you know investors can expect kind of a four percent gross return depending on when deals close people are looking for people will be happy to see but you know the Amazon arguing will be well it's you don't necessarily to be making the sales in the stores they are kind of pops a loss leader where you go out people see it and of the market I feel like we don't talk about it enough but I think we can change that a little bit right now you off Sharon is a portfolio manager for three house capital management in Chicago joins us on the phone so call it three point six percent as of quarter end there's been in the middle part of this decade quite a boom in obviously traditional merger arbitrage activity a mid single digits potentially upper single digits rate of return annualise but we're also seeing a bunch of non traditional quote unquote event or deal activity in the most recent quarter that has died down partly because of the global economic uncertainty geopolitical tensions etc but what we're seeing is still quite traders getting these days sure thanks for having me on you know at a holistic level today annual spreads or I guess grow spreads are sitting out of just under four percents even equity valuations but has been a driving force of late but specifically for risk we really have seen a bifurcation where the quote unquote safe spreads which is also driving the the Avenger of investing landscape. How easy is it to get it right what you're dealing with this at a time of such bifurcated salsa fan sure yeah that's a great question it's something that we've spent a lot of time focusing on really the bifurcation not only in in risk are but in other parts of the market is well credited I'm just like we're seeing in in yield there's there's a flight to quality people are trying to hide out in in these safe spreads ones the ones that don't have either you know contentious the overall deal universe is still trading around ninety five percent implied probability which is somewhat in line with historical range but there's a whole slew deals Asian or regulatory Overhang or cross-border concerns getting tied up in government Tit for tat if you will those spreads the purposes are sitting essentially a coin flip so if you think about it in in implied probability standpoint the really safe spreads are trading in the upper ninety percent imply just chatting with Lisa affair and saying you know we haven't we don't really talk that much about risk arbitrage trading around deals that used to be such a big part angle digits range for a gross rate return so then what you're left with is a handful or a slew of deals that again for regulatory purposes or Gio Politic are sitting essentially a coin flip so fifty percents implied probabilities again. These are deals that are either need Chinese approval deals that need or are being under compressed in in overly tight and then you have this air pocket in the middle of the risk arbitrage spectrum where there aren't very many deals that live in the mid to sing up bifurcation and obviously you know you nailed it on the head getting getting the ones right is is significant and obviously drives returns but just as importantly avoiding the a new FTC guideline particularly in the healthcare space where there's a lot of concern as to what the rules of the game are so that's that's really what's been driving a lot of attention but really you know any sort of corporate actions of recapitalisations refinancings pushing out maturity wall understanding either side a big investment banks had big risk our trading desk and that was kind of the really cool place to be who's investing and WHO's playing in the risk arb- market it's been awhile since there's been a big blow up but avoiding those is equally if not more important than getting the ones right so you have when I started on Wall Street in the mid eighties all these days I think you still have dedicated fund to risk arb- both in in the liquid space and obviously the peace base I think what's what's evolved over time his a broader spectrum if you will a catalyst spectrum for events space investing so event driven investing anything from obviously activism gets makeshifts in industries or regulatory concern so I I think the the investor base and the number of strategies that one is able to utilize his really broadened out so it's strategy approach and one of the things that really allows us to take advantage of dislocations and shifts in the market is that's when that creates new opportunity for us and we're able to you know the we work situation hoover declines etc what do you make of the recent IPO is that have either fizzled in post a quarter where you know Q. Three had the lowest deal activity both from number and value in the last five years going back to Q. Four of twenty four teams so in Arb- in terms of volumes but it's really going to be driven by a few key deals what we're seeing is that there's less breadth in the activity and in smaller it's not just you know the traditional merger are levered play that was prevalent as you referenced in the Eighties and Nineties today you know we employ on our fun to a multi incapabilities we participate in a lot of financing deals in particularly in the healthcare space that also is a good harbinger of capital markets a quarter like that where there's no deal activity you still have plenty of other pockets to invest along the capital Kevin Kelly spectrum excuse me so you know that's sorry go ahead loess is really what's important and obviously you know at the beginning of two thousand eighteen with an XP qualcomm there was a lot of carnage in the space that kind of reset spreads a little wider and now it appetite in in people's willingness to to fund in Lund obviously when you have a few situations that unfold that that hurt hurt investors there's from Balkany activity which is actually something that we're seeing in merger arbitrage as well this year's going to end up being a you know again quote unquote a good year or a healthier for for merger goes to help handle the pressure through decades of expansions and recessions and changing interest rates clients have turned to Pimco to help them stay on course no matter large. IPO's I broadly are there's less kind of the traditional traditional ones that are going but obviously the the few large ones have accounted in this era of ultra low interest rates. Is it still good to not so you know I think We watch the IPO's very closely because I think they're they're good forecaster of general capital markets exposure and finance investing in the bond market is subject to risks consult your investment professional prior to making an investment decision feels perform perform well obviously you want to be able to tap capital markets in the future so you try and price these appropriately and so that they perform well this year has been driven by a few management coming to us from Chicago interesting to hear about avoiding the blowups asymmetrical returns I think they call it when they blows up boys what course markets take Pimco active fixed income solutions that aim to give investors an edge all investments contain risk in May lose value. I know you wanted to get into something that you said earlier which is avoiding blowups and when you think when I think of avoiding blow ups I think of Soft Bank and I think that's big yeah well I think that asymmetrical returns are something that some analysts over at Softbank are focusing on period of kind of licking the wounds and resetting of not only expectations but resetting of of risk risk appetite and in merger arbitrage space while you'll see that I po trading or that failed to get off the ground you know I think this year has been an interesting your Ip O.'s because it's been somewhat of a hit or miss year traditionally in a particular pocket of the market where you know again if the implied probabilities ninety five percent of the time ninety five percent of the time you're going to be right five percent you're going to be wrong the math dictate up in the prices of real estate around the nation particularly in coastal cities how much more upside at this point is there left I'd say here is kind of spreads will widen out people will reassess people will require a higher rate of return which is not surprising in a investment vehicle or Kinsey Perspective occupancies over ninety six percent that's the highest since two thousand that's nineteen years and rents are growing three to four percent sometime seven eight percent depending on the sunbelt offers a great quality of life has deep job will more affordable and this is where millennials WANNA be driving real estate so this has been a still a lot left and by that I say that because of the fundamentals that you see in real estate some you think about apartments for example having one of its strongest on record from breath and today's volatile markets investors need resilient portfolio invest in real estate joining us now Melissa Reagan Head of research for new V real estate joining us in our Bloomberg interactive brokers studios. Melissa we've seen already such a big run always heard that I guess yeah so is it still regional play it is absolutely I mean it depends on the property type but I would say in general yeah the Sunbelt is really strong right you've got the arquette urine so the fundamentals are there to support pricing so is this still a big regional play as relates to apartments again you mentioned a Sunbelt I've kind of we've this is a great this is a great business those about the please absolutely so in this we have a healthcare technology theme for real estate investing why because it's generated higher risk adjusted returns in the last decade and we think that's true going forward given the strong tailwinds behind technology driven right but there's certainly cities that aren't when you talk about healthcare properties you can think about hospital chains that have been overbuilt and over bedded and need to get you know cut down and are for healthcare real estate but when I think about healthcare real estate we look at it from a life science perspective which is driven a lot by biotech vc funding which is not going anywhere drugs heated such as kind of the coastal areas like you know again the northeast the west coast are those two highly price that you can't generate the returns you like absolutely great question really hard to answer right because if you think about how real estate works right location location team for a while it's a talk about some of the other investments that Nhuvien has been making such as Cell Towers billboards and healthcare relief of the Seoul Tower business you have to put in what is your initial yield going into these markets and to your point if it's really low you're not going to get no matter how good the fundamentals are you're just not going to get the growth even if the right and so that that is where you've seen a lot of operators in that space struggle with their margins and not be able to turn a profit you dad has been a huge struggle area higher risk adjusted see here's what I'm thinking about as you talk how do you avoid the blowups as you were talking about earlier in the show because when you talk about apartments sure the sunbelt might be doing wien have their debt restructured so where are the potholes here that you're avoiding absolutely so that's a great point when you talk about healthcare and you think about something like skilled nurse yes that's how we think about avoiding the potholes but yes there are many of them those are the sectors you really like do you avoid markets that may be over so what we've done is we have built a relative value model for every Metro and buy property type and so what that says to us all right driven sectors are the ones that are gonNA continue to generate higher risk adjusted returns relative to your your traditional role still going to give you that solid income but strong in migration coming from millennials right they're starting to form families and they're thinking about where where where am I want to do I want to live right and the sun belt that when you're wrong it's going to hurt more than when you're right that's why it's so important to avoid the blow of you'll have Sharon thank you so much for being with us your portfolio manager dry house captain yeah eight the tenants in that space they make drugs that's not going anywhere and then we also look at it from a medical office perspective where you're not it's not a direct play on the hospital detect earnings we welcome David Garrity chief market strategist for laidlaw and companies also a partner at bt block joining us live here Bloomberg Interactive Brokers Studio so David Let's start the hospital you're buying the medical set may be campus adjacent or even off campus but his strong demand right from baby boomers aging meeting new hips new knees occasion and so there are macro plays certainly said he's we would want to not put as much capital into but real estate you have to remember the end of the not great robust demographic fundamentals Reagan you'll have to come back and elaborate ahead of research for new real estate thank you for being with us very much micro location location location so that's a heart you can't you coon just black line an entire city but if you could would you invest in the the cities that are not on their Saint Louis on Detroit's not on there really tiny cities Birmingham's on there why these are places that are losing population I wouldn't just here we go again back into investment spend what do you make an Amazon numbers last night well I think in terms of what we're seeing not bad numbers if we look it can be data center cell towers just billboards depending on how you want to categorize it not look at when you drive down the highway talked about that that's not what very strong and so we've built model so we can tell you on the fly does markets a better value because you get the growth but the initial yield is higher industry-wide retail increase in the fourth quarter but obviously Amazon's getting going to do a multiple of that just given how how much they've strengthen themselves and given their investment and so we're trying to we're doing that on the fly dynamically so we know kind of any given day quarter month where to place the capital is there one city you absolutely would not mind shooting numbers they're saying they're doing eleven point two billion which would make them look larger but even if you disaggregated the Microsoft numbers just focused on Azure alone azures in terms of some of the high growth areas for the company I e round cloud Computing Amazon web services numbers there were up fairly solid thirty five percent a year every year people who are inclined well we're just starting to get some earnings from the technology companies we had some disappointing numbers as some of the semiconductor named pick nits might say well that was a deceleration from the year over year growth of thirty seven percent the quarter before but thirty five or thirty seven you still got a fairly robust number especially against Masan let last night kind of the mist on earnings guidance on the profitability side again a little bit light I guess raising concerns for some investors like in particular cloud computing with respect to aws because that was a big disappointment as well and it's amazing how significant a portion of the prophets of Amazon come from trying to think that there are some electron better much more technology focused but either way so so yes so how we see the world is that these are the sectors technology healthcare growth rate in the third quarter with sixty five percent year over year which arguably is well ahead of thirty five percents so it looks as if Amazon is developing competition these are set up right now going into the fourth quarter of the US consumer looks to be relevant okay we're in unemployment levels are so you know I think broader numbers are for four percent Awa us really so what happened there in terms of aws you certainly you're seeing greater competition coming in from Microsoft as your service now also in terms of looking at cloud computing we don't have the numbers now we will have them from Google after the close on Monday as the how they've been doing in terms of their own cloud offering so one might argue how these companies put their numbers together as they report them in terms look at aws the revenue number was nine billion if you look at Microsoft's cloud a his performance and be this is signal that big US tech is really under a new microscope by the US regulators well may not necessarily be tech widely but it certainly is facebook specifically argue that the speech that Zuckerberg this week we had a facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg appear before Congress for most of the day kind of quite a grilling wonder what you thought about clearly not necessarily aws Amazon web services game right now they may still be the market leader but they have others who are intent on catching up earlier is it has to be observed in terms of the truthfulness from a factual standpoint of the content that's being represented and to the extent that Zuckerberg refuses to draw a line so I think that there's still some skepticism that could be applied buying it you don't think that they actually have increased their user base that much it's entirely possible that they may not and the is to step away from a position that has people saying that facebook really is disinformation for profit as a business model did you know that facts we were supposed to be doing faxes had given prior to the Capitol Hill testimony the speech he gave at Georgetown University where he was trying to say that facebook in terms of what's being advertised mall in Jersey probably listen there's a great it's a great it's a great point right and when you think about our thirty five tomorrow cities which you could go online and look at it's in the quarter to strengthen their prime offering to deliver goods but then one day and also the fact that they staffed up here ahead of the holiday quarter let's talk about the clouds decline and I'm just wondering how bad you thought the results were given the fact that they're proving that they can actually increase their user base which had been question for I have to meet so from that standpoint time to time to get them out of the sandbox and put them into the pool with everybody else David Garrity thank you so much as in percents not a bad return but still you know a company that arguably going forward faces greater headwinds the not the same would apply relative to twitter during the week we had Amazon last night disappointing numbers that's down as much as seven or eight percent it's only down one point three percent here is the market rally get a sense of kind of what we should be looking forward to nine on making sure that either a there's factual truth in the political advertising that's being put onto its platform or be just decides to stay away from all political advertising entirely because it's not really a very large part of their business so I sacrifice their integrity to
Gil Dudkiewicz- The Perennial Entrepreneur
"This podcast is part of the C.. Suite Radio Network turning the volume off on business the hello and welcome to the plugged in todd cast where we talk with founders and CEO's in order to bring you the real stories of failures and triumphs highs and lows. They've experienced on their the journey toward success. We will go in-depth with our guests to give you insights into how they have taken an idea from concept to realization. Making those spurs key hires into building building the right team scaling revenues how they overcame obstacles and much more as we learn how they achieved success. This podcast you want to subscribe to you if you want to learn and how to succeed. Another episode of plugged in after a few months for the summer and for the Jewish holidays. I am back. My name is Ellie Mandelbaum industry veteran who decided to do more than just listen to podcasts. But actually start one in which people much smarter than me this episode. We were speaking with the guild dude cabbage. CEO and Co founder of startup which in short blood solutions for APP developers out the monetize advertising every did in their APPs it has been at the forefront of the mobile Ad Tech Community for at least eighteen years. If you as long as I've known him there enabling APPs to Ed blockchain technology now and and are one of the largest C. S. decays out to behind I think is and correct me later on Google and Apple Gill. Welcome to the show. I hope covered everything from the blanks on your background. The first question I wanted to ask is how do you get started in your career in the southern company. The things that we've made more than twenty years ago but one of the balance sheet most people mustn't Lupin Oakland bound Only seventy line and the seventh full of fields that make you know. They'll do lives in the balance sheet wild thing which is usually excess. So I'm trying to fully also both says the the reason with will be deleted amount of money with such and the second one is that you need the right before the the rights of just depends only decided looking for. You need to make sure the right people can go with you and do it with two days. Notice dealing with the right people in and you didn't really sell what some to make sure that it's no was it's not the spills and who is the most expensive cheap is actually the right provide you that and the show. Is there any that you that you know. Really Challenge at early or failed that debt bottle better love. Let's go to your first startup right. You know again. It was a really difficult time than bubble was really you know it was great few years and then all of a sudden thousand game and things started in van you know. What did you learn from it? You know the from the failure of of that first startup and actually the celtics will always but zander's you don't really learn from federal these like you know you need to be the field. The Delilah said from federal didn't ones. I'm very thankful me I notice. It's a set of experiences. Stuck in my head is started a gold medal. The generally says two thousand the other thing the gloves in March two thousand and the money made thousands and some of the decided to sell the company together and I was like Willie coffee from built in the ninety escape. You know the monks stalking although deny the steak and work and raise the mind wants to miss the enjoyment. You and I was on solid won't be believed to be successful and then another teenage to get up and I was actually ready to give the money to invest. Yes those are built in Beijing. Visiting both does only one of US willing to commit so it's not due to decide Out Due to decide if you want to continue Komo and luckily visited industrial the Japanese and Bush shit honesty ended in. You know having fooled and said go into into money sedate Daniel and become kinison so things of stuff gopnik. Thanks can look too late. We can cross the fills the inability nothing thing is. This is better so you should stop focusing too. That's a good story. I mean you you know that's something that you don't know usually when you know you raise the money and even the craft it's the fan and is is very that you find someone that goes back to the investing. You know what this is on your sign. You know in starring I take you. Don't you don't have to do that no you really you really did. I mean that takes a lot of maturity from from yours. I don't know what are we going to start up now so you know. How did you come up with the idea? And again official people in startup is probably one of the largest the largest estimate outside of Google and facebook so bid thousand ten I. I was after founding them sending in mighty view the deals. We sold out the building and I tend to India. Ya'll seat of would just ask the general. They'll be half to kind of financing a Dan midday do next without really any any south gentlemen commitment and I was visiting betting today. Go to see off and and was able to the audience and men financially which is better. But eventually Ashley Wade comes to get things at the same time one of them is a really wanted mighty name the company it's one of the most distinct to do is to change. DNA of the company and as of the naked the title being so then maybe decided. They won't Stop Band Company and second being. I am seventy thousand the daily adoption of over two thousand. It wasn't Israel and and it's not you know in two thousand this being the second wave and this beaver even bigger and I think that's one of the only industries that the oxygen better than all the diamonds and other actions in. Ah Them Up is going through so we wanted to be going to be national. Both of them says something to to and South Dakota any any states should show you know when you started the company right so do is it even a better question when is accompanied the same painted as it was when you start no so when you started the company what was the initial idea a four starter. But it's not a set of they swimming. You always need to that. We do the same. For a give. Companies occurred it's Besson's relatively. It is the same from the get-go he wanted to do. Advertising started out of the chicken and egg wanted in passing and we still do today to send more by. This is the same. But there's a danger biking. Vikings very big portion of the deputies will be deleted company guy. And so. When did you start? Start seeing traction with you know in you. Launch Your twenty ten You know the product. Incentives sauce in Italy collapsed in moving guest. We started the company the sentences of two thousand ten and and make up. No you think that's awesome. The biggest challenge is to find that they won't walk with and even voted with the fuss as possible because if to be the Wanted to go to is known in March. Two thousand eleven months after we started yet is less. We've booked I think it was playing five hundred thousand users Delaware any months Bhagat Molin fact out thousand fuses. which was insanely until you you show to show the audience? The user was the APP developers or the use of my learning without. You know making sure that we like accessible depends on. But we'll sell in Mandalay and other twenty one hundred dollars budget that you had you were able to get five hundred thousand users in three months. What did you like overwhelm like this? She scaling did you have a lot of people. Don't think okay. Ten Thousand Fifteen Twenty Maybach fifty thousand in England and scale you get the five hundred thousand such as retirement and were you prepared for it and so we always arguments that I thought. Oh my team that. The risk risk of not being ready is highlighted. The risks of paying too much for something is actually happening for the little infomer- The central so much ability but thousands thousands many. Everything's been able to you know. Just stuff quietly anfield spoiler southern wounds inviting only I in and we all said a challenge any without gets full which the end the business side. Ah will have some funding with weeks of this festival. Me Just above the company. I was unveiled. You know enviable and so you know. I want to touch on something that you know that you mentioned was. I did a lot of entrepreneurs and a lot of people you know. It's always a debate right. Do you focus on your product product product. And wait till it's perfect worked or do you just get the product that market and iteration as it goes along so you're actually able to see what the market is telling you what to do and you know for you guys seem into Work Ryan but why do you get pushback from your co founder. What was the faucet on is better the gushing basil deported? If it's blight say we've really got into healthy with the other thing is some second injecting huddled. Dines would take a picture if you've got a devout cowed. It does not safe. It's new to Austin did was put in the fire full semi conductor early to make sure that this is an ongoing basis will living in the world so we've continued Development Continues Diploma as as Candy the daily. How many bills hit full indicate it seemed to Howard's of thousands of different bills domino of the week? It's the we've got the motivations of love phones different nation of Other nations and other conventions and other things that this is a lot of inefficient way without having it way too late and we used in full dustin game you could be ruled out. Doesn't really will we go into the number so that it will be the died. And so you know I want to attribute upon the acquisition mountain he had to get the five thousand developers early on and even posted and then also the regime out of all of this early stage of the company. So what was your aquisition. Might just trying to digest people on your team reach out the Dan did you just you mass marketed to users other and will really believing in leading the science and out of an awesome day one we have added that his ended uh-huh views from different fills. It's a folly but we knew how cool feeling Developing we did little anymore than other different conferences. The newly just meeting the small southern shows fun a-block just this week a problem one of the walk with instead of just looking up. You're from Poland doesn't really since it's only the whole and also Kennedy beginning with unique is willing to take the risk we we measure what we believe. You know other show us should be an wasn't willing to make up for today amount of money we should bigoted pretty good and fomented hidden often. Thanks fold hey this is going to get you know. And so what are you offering guarantees to them. I said so committed to revenue but you were based on the numbers that you're able to really say okay. This is how many us they have. This is any better. Everything go for the negotiation that you see today. This is part of developing the use of this. I love this is how much you're willing to pay weekend up for the number. This is how she made billions copy. Since confided is simple people sizable livable. The does though for me that would get Muslim to question is did. Did you find that your projections on the projection. Long touted so again with another gentleman in the general did should APP. Developers must have been. This is fantastic. That was that was the best form of marketing. That does the most innovative rich Walden. Thousands of developers ended and additional people integrating not as simple minded and moving inside Michael. Michael Plus Rush Medication Crave and then even a for developers have in production cycle. You know was an Iowan San. Andreas was it android for us. We had both attained still. It's easy to talk to eats Washington integral again and again a chance with mobile phones. Mobile dumbing it but those will if not dot inside me. Are you still do the the mountain with upward developers today democracy vote but also this closely hip today Glenn. He doesn't of US up to go whips at down the Again go live Zimmerman Division. So the busing Wilson's got his nose from the actual model company in revenue in central. You know what you said the DNA right so you want to to build a DNA heavier influence on it right so you know when you started your first hires right and so what are you looking for and again I hired Jones critical again. Yeah and actually take people and business from the get-go we'll go through them and I think the fell can be. It will walk into pass so on the business side. It will sound it was made in the end it was here. The scene all wins conceal alwin. GM dozen. Jim Duggan was then. Many of the jokes in and the deals won't be salon would make partners Company so low people would be people that view from the get-go General sticking even today about seventy percents exploded fellows of events. We saw both Beth for us. We always liked by book engineering again. Business and it. It wasn't the only eight just always unbalanced company. 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We do give up meetings with won't get Sending out they wanted us to this is is that we sent beautiful offices set people from offices. Nationwide you can have all the people in seventeen and so you know. How did you come up with that right? So you as you're building as you're hiring more people and your Eh. Did you come back. Implementing those strategies to train people in their locations. Well being an in here. I mean did you. Are you hire sending. You're the supervisor of each division. We actually bring people on board icily train and follow up to maintain that type of education for for those for the different offices and employers flew over one of the biggest challenges have and that actually love song. Well often it'd be before slotched. I love building thinking McCain southern based on looking you do okay so I think it's important for someone to know only one David Chen the Senate bumping so we look at what was later on. Focus Malls syfy position to the head. But they do usually him anything individual sending people convinced running internationally. People will many so you know it gets expensive right so this this is a segue into the next part. You guys not reach a lot of fun. You're you're pretty much ready to finance which is for the for the size of the U. R. and freighter growth is not an easy thing to do. Why did you decide to take the little outside investment so I will be? We did this for the North and south is more money would be much easier building in Albany whenever Ed to denote win and found self sufficient and used to solve all of them just online online people into it instead of facing really is and so I didn't believe live and also the league needs. Some deficient of the day is only popular dishes. Visit Business clutched his cell phone and they can actually benefit from this. Most people don't really realize the But generally include because the nurse shooting both make money back and show Shaw with that with being lean and really this reinvesting the reading I mean have you had years where you like. Okay wasn't as great as we thought we'd have to really keep a little bit more down your growth slow to Nannu able to pick up later on and whether it happened that you guys is you. Are you worried were you like saying. Maybe something's broken thing Inevitable won't Bobby. As an honest deal other understand understands the Senate is the centerpiece models devices. Most of them. Don't let it one time and on just planted. Then another option still unity finished movie has it was a setup you know necessarily even into raising itself of gay just near the defendant to will get to make it so and you're the Bush ending awarded contented and this was luck. It was also the money station so it wasn't the Oh God and so give us just so people understand how big you are a range of of revenue. Not Looking for I mean did you. Are you triple digits. I mean this was happening. You are now I mean so this is something where even before we get any points today. The company okay. Hello muscled company which is also different than some people. Same may more from how people four hundred people shouldn't get nearly before say that they wanted to business lies in. What's they love to give people that they need more than the amount of you need a different view on this both my Butler and luckily we stick by dusty by if you need to change changing bit weird offices in different places? They have emily. Emily officers have to the. US between China. Now one in India running gear so nice and one hundred employees throughout. You've you've got and you know so. And how many you know as you have at the moment I mean we don't use in people who are faced with one and two I mean what's the how are you guys so now. Oh Intel down will we have seven out of thousands. Thousands depending registered does. Doesn't they'll see life nations. Don't get more than sixty four monthly and we have more than two billion dollars for again you'll note and with medium ticketed dot will wide and you know what are some of the bigger ones that are integrated so people understand like what. Slow the big about this really makes us unique is up to the the on sell nukes. Obviously the biggest biggest along the side we get field. But that's really gonNA face very well with real. Food needs establish themselves invented got an so. How many many apps you on the basis though twenty twenty and so you know I want to go back a a second on to pursue as well and we did touch on that what? What was your differences that you saw from swam to start at so I think for name in Sweden that was a red hot Copley five employees of those a New Zealand? You brought up a offer in the break off of me and the difference is if you avenue. That's what they learned from this fate agenda between the people who have all the table get deal to wake people but the gender of the company to an investment David Griffin. I wanted to take place. And does no good recipe full flo buildings bidding to deal to make sure they actually found for my investment. The Mason guys this folks you know. We're not facility to five hundred companies Bill de the film business and this is your belief so I appreciate and want to move on to to you. I think you guys in one acquisition so far I mean we did one musicians the ugliest and did some investment to notice at and when I did keep a mobile was the what was what was your impetus to say. Okay PAL now. Let's bring him more. That's really for the I do. And he talked about being a applied to win it with it in other mindset that says she wants to be a long and then they can accommodate this so kimble central to some of your flowing look into it and saw the vision logging into said focused into the jets is about a fully. I know that we want to manage anyway. For mobile nails was very bored. Lived dozen wasn't necessarily full. You the direction you want so we still sell On New Year's for they want to spoil it was successively anything. But that's really came from the Google Google data. Some people bring the idea. Is that you you encourage you and do promote from within. I like lateral within within the company. Are You yes actually moving. More than one thing. You should option there accelerate but generally a Komo a lot of people in house. The many into doing position came as student and get out of the building manage basic deal. They come aw today. And she's in. Both of the management was a student Isakov. Manageable G. Jon. The loyalty factor is higher. It's not the system potent develop is both it's impolite actually. If you're good you will walk in. Would you have a home. And so in terms of management decisions to make you know it started that to be the. Oh yeah one of the last long and I love the the best and I think you hit imagined innovating. Let's spend the what and Wolton alternate thinks is amazing but we supported financially supported enough engulfed attention and it was built to make a decision to manage. Just up and just commits especially. You've bought the day ideals not wanted to Albany wise invasion in an investment. It was done for today. And those those little to choose which which and and we're people in the company upset that you get push back from it or you're just like decided you know. Just pull the plug after that time and this recruit recruit double down on what year. Keep your focus on on on your court so as signs. It's not one size. Fits all upset of suspicious especially with all the budget and and people with lows in high out of bed and you know manageable. Then we need so you know what is some of the managers schools that are effective for you but you that you you know our constant you know saying okay this key for me. So I'm I'm and stuff differently. I'm into company. You'll sit in the field. The Dutch has just been otherwise. You can hear music throughout the day. Sometimes you can see for the villages people you know no. This doesn't really see to what they do. And you know maybe different. You don't feel looking in a way that the many adult basis and make sure Clinton made their own communicate as possible and it's not you know that that's a that's a sure that communication is always a challenge. Did you ever mentor. Or some of the device throughout the years so ahead mental in the beginning now I finally molded Lafayette said FOUND BILLS IN SEAL incivility. It's a very low position and in a way else along bay adult of April your balance because too many decisions without. Don't you want to build the being in the same got understood GONNA wind down. You know it now. So what do you when you're fifteen. We're going towards the direction F- then kind of the same just an illegal. Nobody does around. Diane's with dual dealers feltus. They want to go to got it got it. Was your one of your parents and business. Did you know that the another sharpened by all before file walk in Mumbles Manager High School. Oh my brothers. Both of those divisionals always friendly but wasn't not business was totally got it. Is there something that a habit or so that you wanNA deal that keeps you focused. The keeps your game I it was still goes to the South West spoke because wrote me. You know the stuff out boxing or into kickboxing today. 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Hour 4: Chris Doering and a wrap around the CFB
"They even though fans can attend this year's masters. The tournament is using the flexibility of a hybrid cloud to scale their capabilities. Now everyone can be a patron and ibm dot com slash. Masters cried passion than patron tree of college. Football leaves here. The paul finebaum. Show our four podcast. We welcome you back to the final hour. We appreciate you being here. And how about starting with robert in spartanburg south carolina and robert researcher. Doug moco How much longer do you think south carolina. she keep will much champ. And ray tanner on his his by so big that it would be worth suffering with him through another year a broader. Thanks for the call of the box. Thirteen million dollars. So it's a good question. And i think in the end of the season is going to dictate really where south carolina goes. Thank you very much for the call. Let me welcome in chris during our regular friday night treasure trove and chris. We normally go up and down the seven. Sec games this is going to be a little bit different tonight. So before we get to some of the games Just your reactions this week which we all know has seen four postponements and and a lot of confusion and uncertainty about the rest of the season. Yeah i'll be honest with you paul. After the last couple of weeks of scheduled by games and shortened by weeks and shorten schedules. I was looking forward to getting a full slate back Seven games and then to hear the news. Come out monday and slowly. Have more news about other games being postponed. It's troubling obviously. It's disappointing for this immediate week Only having three games to watch but at the same time started to see this logjam of how we get games that are scheduled played at some point in time. I did like the sec's announcement today. That they're going to have some flexibility in the way they're gonna move some games around So i think the one thing that we have to be reminded of we talked about it. A lot in the preseason. The best ability during this pandemic affected season is flexibility and the sec has shown the leadership from all the way back in march through where we are today and ability to be flexible in relation. To what you said. I wouldn't call it flex scheduling. I mean they only have. They can only redo which on the calendar. But where do you see the priorities there. In relation to how the games are are recalibrated. Obviously i think it's first and foremost let's get as many as we can played in the immediately. I think that's what you have to look at. Which ones can we get played now. And we'll worry about how the other ones fall the road. I think all of us could appreciate the fact that it was going to be a disappointing season. If we didn't get a chance to to watch alabama lsu play against one another even though lsu's down. It's a great rivalry. And i think that Finding a way to to protect those games as important. But i think at the end of the day it's just about getting as many of them Played as you possibly can The bottom line is this is. This is for the kids. I mean this is for the players and the players come to these schools. They've gone through all the off season stuff that they were able to to get a chance to play so let's maximize those opportunities and worry about next week as they come. I mean the thing that i thought was the most. You can't do that if we get to the twelfth. And we gotta figure out a way. Because florida still has lsu alabama has always you would you. Would you guess the lsu alabama game is going to take precedence. Alabama and florida likely will be locked up on the on the nineteenth disagreements from a lot of fan bases. If we're prioritizing alabama lsu having to play on the twelfth and florida place somebody else or or even worse for them not playing at all on the twelfth. I mean so. How do you balance getting a lot of these rivalry games played. How do you balance getting as many games. You can possibly get in and at the same time having some equity for those teams. That are playing in the sec championship. So either i think was one of the greatest things about the flexible scheduling. We saw early in the year with with georgia and florida. Both having scheduled buys the week before they met last week But ultimately having to move some things around it worked out well where they were both playing the week before so. I think that's one of the things that the conference has to be. The most cognizant of is trying to protect the fairness of of those teams that are going to be playing in atlanta december nineteenth and. Yeah and then we get we get a and i know we're getting a hit. The conference announced two other games would be played on that day. And and there's a lot of people who think that's great that you know players play stats. Get to be padded. But there's also an underside of that is teams. Who were doing terribly you. I'm sure in the nfl. You may have played on bad teams. I know you didn't in college but how difficult is that. I can tell you from playing in the nfl on some bad teams that it's very difficult as you get to the end and everybody's looking forward to packing up and get some time off and and getting out of this Stressful routine they'd been in this year more so than ever But at the same time as players were always talking about. Hey let's put our best effort on tape. Lots of people are going to be watching whether it's it's Coaches around the conference or coaches throughout the college football in general even scouts and general managers and coaches at the nfl level. So you never want to not put your best foot forward when you're going out to play but the thing that i'm seeing paul that i'm worried about this week. The good thing the number of players that are deciding to opt out in the middle of the season Mississippi state Vanderbilt losing a couple players this week That's the thing. That's most troubling to me. And i know that's their option But i can't help but feel like there's some guys that are taking off not because they're necessarily scared of of getting the cobra nineteen virus right now but more so because their their seasons loss. They're not enjoying how much playing time they're getting. They're not getting along with their coaches. And i think that is the precedent that i worry about being set going forward in future seasons that aren't affected by the pandemic in terms of this contact tracing which has been the rage of the week. A lotta coaches are getting very frustrated. With what do you hear from friends around the league. And is there any way out for the league to to alter this yeah. I think we're all very frustrated by the idea that a player can test positive for it and they'd be out of quarantine ten days later but somebody who's deemed in a very subjective manner to have had close contact is out for fourteen days and no ability to test out to me is a little ridiculous now. We heard commissioner. Thank you talk about this week. It's not necessarily a school rule or a guideline of the conference. There's going to have to be some higher up guidelines that are changed. And that would be from the cdc and and local government throughout the different states and the sec. That there's much hope of anything changing now. But i do know it's frustrating won t to have guys that again very well may not ever come down with the virus having to sit out for fourteen days and in some cases guys having to do it multiple times throughout the season so i i do think there is something that needs to be addressed. I know the priority is not necessarily football. But i think all of us very frustrated with what it's done to the numbers particular. Would you look around in places like texas where you have to positive tests but yet you have so many guys in quarantine because a close contact that you're not able to field a team to play this week christie. You'd mentioned it earlier about about dealing with kobe. The you're an adult. You've been through it all and i wouldn't want to do it and i'm sure at some points in the whole world will but what's it like for a nineteen year old. Have to suddenly shut himself out from everyone he knows. Yeah i think that was one of the things we talked about in the offseason paul was was what the structure that that is brought to these. These players you know the routine is brought to players keeping them. I could tell you myself after having played in college. I'm grateful for football and having the structure of practice and having accountability. I mean i could probably go on out every night. I probably would have failed out and and wouldn't have had nearly the academic success that i did so i do think the socialization aspect is the thing. That's maybe the most difficult on these kids when they're not able to be a part of of the team environment From an experienced tearing my achilles tendon. When i played for the denver broncos not being a part of the daily activity in routine of being a member of that team having to go rehab on my own and even worse for these guys. They're having to be an isolation for fourteen days or for ten days if they tested. Positive that in another self in a world where. There's so much connective. These days to be isolated. Like that is. I got to be not only frustrating for these kids but i think it could be psychologically damaging as well talk about Some of the games tomorrow. You're obviously There are not many to choose from but in terms of what you see. Let's start with florida. They are coming up the biggest win a long time in gainesville. They take on a really hot or arkansas team in philippi french paul. How ironic is that. We're talking about maybe the best game of this weekend. There's only three but probably the most challenging and difficult game on florida's remaining schedule being arkansas beginning of the year you know when they announced this back in late july early august This was a game that everybody was a sure win. And i think florida's certainly has the advantage. But i i think there's a lot of dynamics at that exists here that make this a very difficult potentially let down opportunity for flora coming off. That big emotional win over. Georgia is human nature to to after. You have a big win like that. Feel like you've made it a lot of people around gainesville talking about sec championship. And i think this is a spot where they don't necessarily know just how good arkansas is or at least it was a lot of fans that don't know how good arkansas how well they're playing how motivated they are. And i think if you go back and look at the tape. I is a lot of time. We'll talk about some of this tonight on. Sec now there's a lot of deficiencies on florida's defense. That are still showing up. They may not have been taken advantage of by missouri. Georgia certainly wasn't able to do their quarterbacks and receivers but if you go back and look there were five or six different times that georgia had a receiver running wide open in the secondary that that wasn't hit for whatever reason go back to missouri jalen knox's behind the defensive backfield drops a pass. That would've probably been seventy five yard touchdown. Those are things that the quarterbacks and receivers of missouri and georgia did not take advantage of. But i can promise you this philippi. Franks has the arm to do so. He's got the receiver core on on the other side of it to do so and he's got the motivation to do so returning to the swamp this week where he was a starting quarterback for a number of years. And i'm interested to see what the reaction is of those that are intended to flee pay making his return to gainesville kentucky and danner belt to schools who have endured a lot of difficulty this year. Certainly a lot of tragedy on the kentucky side. This week it may have played a role in of their inadequacies vanderbilt. I'll leave it to you to try to describe what kind of season they they're having all actually had a little bit of a positive feeling watching vanderbilt last week. That second half battle. They put together conceals threw for three hundred thirty six yards back weeks for over three hundred yards passing for him You saw henry brooks run effectively. He had the. I think the highest rushing total of anybody in the conference last week. And that's a good mississippi state defense. So i think there's some things to build on if you're vanderbilt at this point i know the numbers are down again and we're talking about barely being at the minimum scholarship player number that you need to be able to have to play But i do think there was some things that i turn the tape on and feel good about. Vanderbilt's improvement on the other side. And this is the game itself for kentucky is probably fairly quizzical at this point in time after they went through what they've gone through this week with coach slaughtermen passing away. You go back. look at. What a motivating factor. He's been for the last couple seasons What he meant to the team and they're winning knoxville a couple of weeks ago and subsequently his absence against missouri and how that team looked in general specifically on the offense of a defensive lines so i don't know what you're going to get for them. I would hope that you'd see a highly motivated kentucky team. Come out play for their coach and probably do what what he has told them to do. All the way Throughout the last couple years. he's gone through chemo. And that's focused on the job at hand and take care of your business. So i imagine that's what we'll see from kentucky but at the same time i'm not so sure where their mind is at this point in the other game Ole miss the records are very good. They they've been in a lot of games South carolina has seemingly gone the wrong way. What happens here. I was shocked to see today that to win. Ole miss team is a double digit favorite over south carolina. But i think it's about matchups right. I mean you you look at ole miss. What they've done running the football this year. The number one team in the conference when it comes to two rushing yards going up against a south carolina defense that quite frankly and surprisingly has been terrible against the run i mean. Lsu put up two hundred seventy six yards rushing against them and they're one of the worst teams in the off in the conference when it comes to rushing the football so i think that's a big mismatch. They keep our eye on this week. I do believe that macaroni had learned from that six interception game a couple of weeks ago against arkansas. I expect them to lean heavily running the football and then on the other side for for south carolina. Who's gonna be the quarterback. Who's the guy that's gonna take the bulk of the snaps. It is it alinsky. Does he get his opportunity. Does not get a chance or is hill back in there. Obviously we'll must have talked about getting sporkin. They certainly need that. But i'm just shocked because three weeks ago after they beat auburn i was i was convinced that this was an ascending team that they were putting things together on offense that they were figuring things out defense and it's just fallen apart and been in a downward spiral sense and and how they fix it at this point in time. This'll be a big challenge for them facing that offense that can put up a lot of points. Chris many thanks always good to have you on friday night chats. We'll talk to you next week. Be well and we are heading into the break here and much more to do on the program including your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five pedal everybody. You're looking live at fans ville a college football. Utopia with the rivers flow with ice cold dr pepper. Where every day. Saturday and everyone's a fan even babies and the seasons never change because the only season is college football season. Get a taste of fans. 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Been on the schedule. Auburn next week is is a game. That's already up in the air because of auburn's covert issues so he may have caught a little bit of a break. I doubt that will matter though fans already have a pretty bad impression. Avoid done this year. I k- a little bit of information. Now found out today. You may know some of the media might know that they Ministration had asked assistance assistant coaches to take a cut in pay. An eight album refused. Yeah i did. I read there. Blake blake cotton top meyer from knoxville. Sentinel wrote that story. And in every in every business people who've been asked including mind to take a pay cut and most people have right kmart and joe graham only so like a fake right now. We're we're we're not we're only talking about. We're talking about assistant coaches here. If i read that story curricular that does not involve pruitt appreciate it. Thank you and by the way i mean. This is pretty standard. You know the company. I work for asked a number of people including myself Back in in march to do it. Athletic departments have have moved that throughout the summer summer. Asking now. it's it's a real issue. Many many businesses are under severe pressure. So if you make x. Number of dollars in an or asked to take a fifteen or twenty percent pay-cut the majority of people have willingly said yes. The article in knoxville said that eight assistant coaches said. No let's get to the calls and check in with jim who is in florida. Hey jim you're on the air. Go right ahead jam. You're on air. Hey how you doing off. We are much discussed the the covid nineteen situation. I just wanted to if you knew and if you do your opinion regarding vanderbilt permitting students in but not the parents or the players. Yeah i have heard that I think that's too bad. Considering how few people wanna see vanderbilt play. This year i would. I would i would let the parents. In is assessing students perhaps more responsible than the parents of the players. Yeah i don't understand the decision. But i think i think all parents should be allowed to see their children play college football this year. I don't understand it So wasn't prediction for florida. Andy when winter they planning. I guess is the question a week from saturday. Okay and. And i say that but you heard chris during allude vanderbilt is very close to to its number and they lost a couple of players this week so every every week with vanderbilt right. Now it's going to be as commissioner sankey said the other day one of those hold your breath moments but i don't think vanderbilt i think vanderbilt had its best shot last week at waiting. I was watching that game and they really played hard but they're also playing a team. That was not quite as poor as them. But at least in the same zip code. Let's check in with richard next in mississippi. Hey richard go right ahead and hey paul appreciate you taking my call. I've called you a couple of real quick comment. I just wanted to know we really. I'm a drummer out here. Up and down the interstate. I told you that before and really appreciate your show. Thank you really good to listen to. It means Twenty twenty s a weird year. You know here. We are watching the masters in november. That says enough and then we college football. That's about as unpredictable about. Who's gonna play. I guess till about ten o'clock tomorrow morning we won't really know although we we. We think we do anyway. Let me ask you a quick question. oh miss south carolina. I know miss record is not not very good. I'm a big fan. I'm elaine kippen band and as up told you before. I'm a big hugh freeze fan In the event that that that oh this takes care of business tomorrow. I just don't think you'd be very long. Before carolina picks up the phone starts calling you freeze. I want to get your thoughts on that. Yeah i think hugh freeze will be offered jobs at the end of the season. The one thing that i don't know and i don't think anyone knows how many changes will be made. I don't think there'll be many because of the The obvious financial pressures but some some programs are just going to tell their administration. We've had enough and you know. South carolina is getting dangerously. Close to that place i think tomorrow night is critical for will muschamp because he is losing support with every law sir. Conversely i think lanes done a really good job. The record is not indicated. But that game against ole miss with the almost alabama game was a masterpiece. He nearly and maybe should have beaten auburn. He's come close if you other times there've been one or two bad games. Obviously but i like what he's doing. And i think when he can get defense short up a little bit and bringing more more of his players. I think all mrs back in business. Yeah i agree with you. I think that You know the record is not very good this year. S quite obvious. But i think you hit on it perfectly you next couple of years. Hopefully just next to you say improvement on the other side of the ball. I think about the way. I think durken's defensive coordinator lane took some heat for hiring him but he got. He's got a quality dc there. I will say that the egg bowl. It's always important. But i think if if all miss can get a win there it's going to carry lane into the offseason significantly so watch that. Hey thank you for the call appreciate it. We are heading to yet another break here. We seem to have a few of those tonight. Mortar com more of your phone calls. Eight five five two four two seven two eight five when we come back. We'll complete are build up to basketball conversation with the head coach at mississippi state. ben howland. You're listening to the paul finebaum show. Podcast we continue the sec. Networks build up to the basketball season and we have had some fantastic s but really looking forward to our next guest. He has three straight twenty win seasons. Everyone knows Historic history appeared in. ucla coach. it's always a pleasure to welcome you back to the program. Been paul thank you doing. Well i know sometimes. These questions become so pedestrian with the way the last season ended. I know we're all trying to get past some issues that are we are. We're all dealing with right now. But but how has the buildup gone for you and your program trying to stay safe but also trying to get ready for the ultimate season which is just around the corner. It was really tough to not be able to finish last year question for everybody. But i'm incredibly excited that we're gonna have a chance to play basketball this year. Where twelve days away from opening up or season. We opened against clemson in a tournament. Now in marathon florida it was gonna be cancun. Mexico and purdue and liberty urology show in there. But i'm just super thrilled to be working with our players on the floor every day. We're getting tested three times a week. Now so our guys have been a good job with the virus in terms of really trying to stay safe. And that's keyboards moving forward coach. You mentioned the travel and it seems like Every time somebody gets on a plane gets on a bus. You definitely enter. Harm's way i. I know you have to take risks. I mean this is. This is real life but how how. How are you going to go about that. I'm less concerned about being on a plane. I've been on a plane a number of times since we had the virus and they really do a great job circulating the air on a plane. A bus is more worrisome. But we're kind in our own bubble from the standpoint that we're just around our team members. Everybody's getting tested three times a week. We're we're trying to be incredibly safe and yet it's all around us. I understand that. But i think we're doing an incredible job. Art ministration our medical people here at mississippi state. So i think everybody in our league. Yes i mean when you look at the conference complex. Spent fifty million dollars to pay to make sure base tested in every sport in this league. So we're doing everything possible to number one. Keep the player shape. The staff the coaches and everybody involved in the program and you know i think that You know things are going to work out that we're doing a really good job is as a program. Anna's league coach janitor the season. I believe i saw somewhere. Where you're you're one game. Shy of hundred wins. That's a lot of wins. I know it's not about you. It's about your program but you think when that happens Or have you already had a chance to reflect back on what's been a pretty extraordinary career excited about Ca- gillian my career. I've had a lot of lessons in life. Coach really good players. Guys that have gone on to the pros back. We're going to have to players from our program from last year. Reggie perry and robert water. That will both be drafted here on this coming wednesday. And you look at the sec basketball. This'll be the third straight year that we have the most players in many league in the country. They will be drafted out of a conference or league is really been good. It's such credit to all the fine coaches in this league and the outstanding players at these institutions are able to recruit so. I'm just thrilled to be coaching coaching. Your mississippi state. I think we've got a very good team again. that's young. We lost four leading scorer from last year. So people really have a little lower than that. We're going to be. But i bought a minus for jackson. Nothing you go out and prove it. So we're looking forward to getting started and once we start playing games in twelve days. It's like it never stops. We play eight games in about twenty eight days so it's game after game after game and wave a break before we come back. We opened up league right. After christmas coach. You mentioned the beginning of the season. And i know because we started a little bit late a scheduled to be altered. It's kind of football. They're flexing schedules right now. How how much did you have to go in there and redo the schedule you know. We really fortunate for us. Haven't had to redo much of it. Rea- dropped the first four games on the schedule. We had one other game that we changed We're supposed to open up a series at minnesota this year and has been pushed back a year or they'll come here next year and then returned the following year but overall we've been pretty fortunate in that respect and that most games schedule we've been able to keep As you you mentioned it's always different every year Especially when you lose so many great players. I know you have but you know looking at at your team and getting obviously you know them very well. What how do you. How do you work through what you have and your expectations under your expectations are always high. But what do you think this bunch is capable of. but i'll tell you we have a returning starter. Dj stewart is going to be a really good player. Nick you'll be one of the best players in our conference this year. A six five wing. Seven foot wingspan. Whereas real point guard skills you can play three positions very good defender. Young man iverson molinar originally from panama will be a sophomore. Very good player is made a big jump. Usually the biggest jump in a player's career in colleges is between their freshman and sophomore year. He's made the biggest jump of any player. I've coached since russell. Westbrook when i was at. Ucla he's improved that much. He's going to really be a super player forest this year as sophomore. We had a young man sitting out. It was a transfer total smith mississippi kid who six eleven to forty five. He'll start to power for position. He's been very consistent. Every day in. Our practices are leading rebounder. Return have dual. Do who started force. Last year's senator position one of the best defenders in the sec. I think leading offensive rebound or in the conference last year. Second block shots and conference games. So those four guys are really going to be the stalwart guys. We are going to count on being the leaders of this team coach before you go as you look forward to this season we mentioned your success. And you know you've been successful everywhere. This looked like a serious challenge When you when you when you measure this versus other stops along the way i had how would you. What would you attribute to you've been able to accomplish. I know you've gotten some great players air which is always the key. But i'm really curious. The secrets of the sauce. Mississippi state is had good basketball tradition. You look at the previous quarter century between richer williams who won a regular season. Sec championship took mississippi state to the final four back in nineteen ninety six and then rick. Stein is very had unbelievable. run year. Fourteen years nikki went to the tournament. Seven times won a bunch of western division championships back when the league is divided. So they love basketball. Mississippi state in our women's burgum said unprecedented success. Last six. seven years of the fans are great. We have a great homecourt. We've had really good success getting some good players in state and i have a really good staff. We have continuity in our assistant coaches with george brooks ernie ziglar in mcrae all been together now going into your six and that really helps as well and i think. I have the best coach in the country and colin crane. So you know having the people around us key to being success. And i'll add. That steph. Also has a great boston and ben howland. Who is one of the best coach. Thanks for making time. It's always good to say it all pleasure to be with you. Hope see you soon. Thank you very much coach. Pleasure to have the head coach at mississippi state on here. One of the most accomplished coaches in the country. Appreciate you being a part of the show. We will see you on monday. Thank you for listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast the paul finebaum. Show airs weekdays on the sec network beginning at three eastern.
Punch-Out!! Final Part World Circuit and More
"This is the nostalgia brothers far cast and we are going to play review in rate all the Games on the any S intendo switch online platform I mark and Pat and we are on par three the final probably part of punch out. Hopefully hopefully we're GONNA get there. It's been fun. We are minor champions. We are major champions in. We are GONNA fight the world and I just found something. Which is why I wanted to start? This real. Quick is going through some information apparently in the minor circuit. If you get up on an even number you get extra health beck who gets knocked down in the minor circuit anyways major circuit get up on seven eight or nine you get extra health or full health if you're finding hippo anything on the world in the World War circuit which were about the plane review in coming. I finished at once. I probably can't finish it cleared in it. I did technically I did technically did the. I got the newspaper article at the end of the game debut of Riot World Circuit you did but apparently there's another world circuit yeah. I don't know that will get anywhere in the world circuit. Get up on nine. You get the extra health or full help on Mister Sandman or Mr Macho man. If you get on eight though you actually get less so beware. He's got a function of championship at night. The timing thing must be fighting wingnut Mike Tyson get up nine. You will usually get full held except for your third time doing this. You'll still get more than normal though T._K._o.. This time maybe <unk> different round. We're GonNa Continue Code and get into the world circuit. The first opponent of the World Circuit is Heston Honda. He is our second time returning the fight this guy he is twenty six and two he used to be twenty six one. He is from where Tokyo Japan at age twenty eight unwise like that a weight of one seventy four kilograms. I don't make him like four hundred so basically right now we are the major minor title titleholder Piersonhonda wants might tell you know what we want the world tighter title so he is just a steppingstone Piston Honda. You're about to get your ass. Kicked is ranked number five right <unk> number six gay ready. We're do the single we'll tell you more one. One of us are going to beat them. Three Star. We just played in defeated Piston Honda Heff of US beat around on one. You Got Lucky in that one. He didn't get backed up to speed up around three. He was for starting off the world though wasn't too difficult now have the same same tells you know we he was the first minor enter champion right. I believe so yeah so we played them. I yes yes we played them. I in the miners and this one so wasn't that hard I he got a couple different goofy things where he did like instead of just going down for the upper coty. SORTA did the s goal and then he came back up. He knocked me out once are not gonNA be down once but I slipped so then I got back up but there was it were <hes> that is I think I'll say about Pinson Honda that the I don't even remember what he was doing the eyeball thing fucking the he he was eyebrow yeah yeah so basically I didn't really you get to see him as much as he did. 'cause I only song for for a few area down for down. Get going on this long some stressing about this dude having just my problems he had to clean it screen for the next person because the next person causes actually we both of us. I find most people most I would assume most people one hundred percent of people in the room right now. Even the cameraman knows that the next player causes us rockets the whole world thing like I'm GonNa probably have a hard time of his next guy and then beat everyone after him including the final guy probably well after that gets easier more. We fighting now Soda Soda Soda Pop Soda Pop in Ski for Moscow the U._S._S._R.. This guy is punch drunk age of Thirty Five C. Would you like to give them the tail the tape now at at the age of thirty five. Oh wait up to thirty seven in a reach of something a ranked number four rick number four. We are ranked number five. We are still the major minor title holders. We have DOC Louis. Doc Brown's not eaten chocolate. We have DOC Lewis heading us on the shoulder saying it's GonNa be okay. You can take sort of Popinski. He's a goofy one. Does he balk when he knocks assists down. I have a feeling that you usually on these things. I usually on these things post the winning scene. I have a feeling that I'm on the Swan so we only have to play up the strong since video. What the over the right let's go? Oh my God. I'm tired duck hanging there MAC join to go direct to prefer to fight. I'm very applaud your Russia yeah. I can't do take sues Patrick to prepare fight tonight on the head. I can't accents somberly dead bitch going around three three. Can you lose your loss. We can still talk about the talking after you'll lose all drink to your Hof Hall Hall haw Russian Aw Round Three Nice so let's talk about soda pop this time I feel like the base because half of us lost at first time it took me what a month month and a half. He's a tough one on soda pop comes out he does his. He's laughing at you. He's he's a pink look. In Weirdo old guy gets me about on. He does two different kinds of opera. He's the first South Pole right. I think he's the first left E.. L. is moves. Come from the opposite side that we're used to it might be he might through use went three rounds yeah. I don't remember I this is timing seems to throw the off with his weight. I think he's the first left-handed are as Booker T. would say W._W._e.. Because he gets confused the first right handed South Paul doesn't make sense flair because he didn't know southpaws left handed but he comes down really with two different uppercuts and I find myself dodging you try to get timing down and so I'll find myself dodging <unk> dodging too early to keep <unk> throws. I don't feel like I feel like this is the first guy that we've you face in punch out where he doesn't really have a towel busy now. I'd like there's it's really just a timing thing like he goes down for a second but you can see you could say common bones. UPPERCUT has a slightly different timing so depending on where he goes. I always tend to do twirling. That's my biggest downfall which you do it wants us. Keep doing it in done too. I got knocked out by sort of Popinski. He made it a knit and <hes> usually dollar way round but it is so i WanNa see if I I can get to see if I saved my safe state for bill so we can play together this. Give me to thank you. I lost while I save stated. I guess last time to Bob Goal which makes actually I am nine one with nine Cao's. I'm so the major minor titleholder Arizona World Circuit this a world circuit rematch again our second rematch and we are fighting who bud ball just the bald all nine in all your nine. I'm now. I've done Cao's so do i. I'm little Mac I own. I'm rick number four so am I but I have zero losses that anyway bowl bowl once again from instanbul Turkey militate says says he's thirty six years old a year older than soda pop while it's a good memory soda pop thirty five years thirty five when I said Balboa Bill Murray yes the last video I put up a thing of Bill Murray. I'm not sure they look the same but for some reason had bob ability but Murray Outta why way to to ninety eight. We're GONNA see what's different. We beat them. Once the first time around you beat him because he does Zabol charge that we not come down right in the Tummy said it's technical term right in the tummy falls before we help us do aw well. He finished your own one and tired Doc Mask C met watches bowl charge stand up to him on a charge right or that. You're Turkish apparently might says he a Mac. Maybe suction throw you towel dig. Nick he hasn't bull charge. Me here comes so much easier than I know because he has the bowl charge was exciting fulfilling last this time around this next guy gave me a proud. No we have to recap. Yes we have to talk about because basically was probably going to happen as like full he's from in Sun Bowl above that but bull. He's the bull bull from instable. That's what the end made different we beat ball bowled all right. There's differences first of all. He's a little bit more aggressive like he's ever at the beginning. He's doing the role <unk> wheels on the bus thing in throwing his jabs but he's not he's like throwing his Jadwin few to counter while you're counter. He stole another one so we stoning quick another deference is you can't not come down until will use starpower them. What do you mean can go all day Long Co.? ILA loses power but you need that starpower to knock down. He really won't fall without you all down really right so that's why he gives you. The free come down with that sat down with US star. We're not going to check this. We are telling you cannot bulb bill down unless you have a star or unless bauble goes the bull charge and then you can time it you can fact check that because I said something 'cause I try not from down. You did try to knock down in the middle of this thing out and I was like what do you mean estar disfigured. You'd use guy you need a star. Let's fantastic because I always had a star because he gives. That's not a difference as he gives you. The freeze like COMMUNICA got yet. You got us to knock them down so yes. Let's fantastic. I never knew that the first bubbly don't have to now in the first time I mean both of them. He's GonNa bowl charge. You and you have to knock down might be my favorite finisher. What do you call move? I hit hit by a yet this whole series in the first time I've got the timing downright every time maybe once but yeah no. I didn't it this time yeah. That's what I said. I don't remember the other one it all. I didn't notice it this time but I remember my. I play through this game on the Second Ball Bowl. His bowl charged only goes like halfway back again both times. I just did it now. He goes all the way back. I WANNA remember that there's a one where he takes a couple of steps back and then he bowl charges from a from a different well this one 'cause I think the second time I gotta I was pink. I think goes Ali back thousand you move but I go halfway. I believe all so when he does it again than does again. I was paint a tour three times than you get. UNPAYING also the second ones he does it at a derived angle were different. That's awesome Limor meme. My memory says serves me rate taste ball ball. We're not GONNA fuck out. We're ranked up to number three Don Fomenko on flaw another Don Flamingo. This make us ranked number two. How is he ranked number two in the world circuit when we kicked his versed in the major circuit? There's some some crazy politics going on here. I don't understand it any is thirteen years younger than although it is crazy like he definitely doesn't look twenty three. He's he's got a little widows Pico seasonal which Kaime have gone now so I gotta fix my hair yeah so you're like twenty three there. You go perfect. Can't it looks like a m sandler. Oh my God full Michael's Adam Sandler kill on rank number three. We're GONNA keep going here in the world thing. Can I have a feeling rocking have a problem with there's going to be as easy as the first one. I have your way to victory. This was going to be a little tougher but he said it'd be easy. I think this one might be the B B any. I think there is a thing to keep going like eight B._B.. Eight be way I duNno try to for one thing. I decided I never knew there was a pattern to about will find out it makes sense that there that'd be antenna know what area ten NOCCO all right. Oh Mako took me duffle Meco took us to through wrong one. We're going in around too so far the different doing before guy that Donald Winco the so far there's alantic differences between Fomenko one. I don't find them too hard. Even though the almost knocked me down on getting on there are probably should hit a slight by now but wait for somebody around three so far the gimmick of the B. A. B. A. Left right. Thing isn't working out. That's gone any comes out. Allow more aggressive like right off the bat like I wasn't expecting it was yeah now quick jab into an upper hit both for me to twice and then from there. I know you said you thought there was different on pattern. I tried everything I try. After right. Gripe left left right I I don't quite see a pattern. Don't know that there is one I suppose we wikipedia for word is GONNA keep fighting through it and doing on her own so <hes> Maya Doc Louis the same put him away it might doubtful Mingo be in Spanish saying WACO move off FLAMENCO strikes back return of Don. My Mac says dancing like a fly by like mosquito Mike Don size people like my hair. Don't must my hat. It's pretty Spanish. It's sort of similar to your Russian and your Turkish Castle Kalian to do the first time nothing done. You're not done yet. Is there a zillion. What do Adam Sandler dammit? We're any redeemers. I just lost to banker mango aw it turns out. We don't know for sure but one hundred percent of the times it's happened to us. If it comes down to a decision second time happened to me MAC loses the letter what he not Flamenco Down Aka Adam Sandler down twice and third range round including the third heard Ronald cannot mainstream once I got. I don't know if I even got knocked down who landed more punches me obviously yeah this. This division is messed up first of all he should not be ranked higher than US second of all there is no no reason the judges judges have now we talk we talked about a lot of the differences downpl Winco and the first of all of the second time he looks like Adam Sandler and he continues beat my assets the big difference his could fails to you can do it but what now he does that want you to head on until all your stars were errol. Your hearts run out. Yeah turns pink his uppercut or cut timings a little different at that point this time it was different. I Dont Flamenco Guy. He deserves is his spot there than next up on the list. I don't know but this guy does who's next on the list for the May the world championship Mister Sandman at ranked number one. We have a tale of the tape from Philadelphia P. A. M. At age thirty one two eighty four is a big boy. Yes I'm not going to have any screens well. I WANNA try to play. This is the farther south God. I haven't been salmon yeah so if you you see it gonNa be today. He looks made not so I could be done. FLAMENCO barrier is made it to round two of Mister Sandman doc have to say cheer you up join the Nintendo Fan Club today Mac they'll get you to the ED yeah Mister Sandman. Welcome come to Dreamland Baby Philadelphia next their Philadelphia boy. Welcome the dream baby that was different from sleep. No and my friends was punched out so we went to the rest of the characters so here we go Mr Salmon. What do you have to say about him since I didn't have the joy of beating them this summer if you at the time in done these map ad I made him to what onto almost story come down twice <hes> so he gets tangled down? It's not bad path. I just can't time now with that so low after Mister Sandman which number beat so I don't know that optel while I have been him and after Mister Sandman if my memory serves me correctly is Super Macho Man oh yeah that's who I think so. We're going to go up against Super Macho man. Okay tell us all bottom has made multiple video game appearance appearance has his first appearance was as W v B A world champion in the arcade version of Super Punchout nineteen eighty four funny that was called Super. KNBR punchout wasn't called Super Punchout again once they added superheavy title Super Nintendo correct. I like that <hes> later he become he became the very last boxer to fight against in Japan only limited edition so basically Super Macho man is the end Nintendo quickly on yeah so in Mike Tyson I mean we're playing where reviewing the any as switch versions but the original Mike Tyson's punchout was Mike Tyson after saint manner. Did he replace them. I believe <unk> now Mike Tyson replay era Mr your dream replaced Mike Tyson. Oh so basically Mike Tyson's like the super guys we went to plane. We just played <unk> San Mad now right so let's repeat Salmon. We would've went to Mr Dream them or it was Mike Tyson it would have been on e._R.. It's GonNa sir or so so confused so after dream is Super Macho man in Super Macho Macho man the champion so once you become the champion you have the luxury of either fighting Mike Tyson. If you're playing the old any s car or in our nintendo switch rats <music> online version you will fight Mr Dream so had gotcha. I never made it that far. M.'s going by. I guess refused but yes you are cracked so the San man is the finisher so you beat the San Man. No is not the furniture furniture will. He's the finisher because once you beat the San man you go to superman which is a champion. Oh yeah that's right once. You beat the same dass lunch you beat the Sandman. Macho man is the champion and he's just another tough. Donald Gunn <unk> doesn't really another guy. They don't really have any tells or anything like that. It's all about the timing and probably a little bit of luck in. I'm sure I've video in here somewhere where I'll be able to say where I beat them and we have a code on here. That has probably a different difficulties. You wanted to try a loss at least to get some videos in here. We're GONNA put put in a cohere. I never played them so that's Super Macho. Man Zero Wins Zero losses so hopefully that's an easy super macho man so we'll we'll see what happens but before we do that basically the way this runs at Super Macho man and then the game finishes off with Mr Dream which we can. We'll talk about it after we finish the okay. We'll talk about that after we're trying to do macho man what's the here Oh scary well. I don't know what that did but we got Super Macho man champion. I'm right. Let's do it major. We're still the major minor titleholder at thirteen thirteen zero thirteen Kale's we have knocked out as everybody I am little Mac. We are ranked number one and we are facing who Super Macho Man <music> from Mali what California way in a two hundred forty two pounds the age of twenty seven is super. Macho Man Will <music> obscure bowl. What's Al's I don't always cows who is tax the second time he twists body and all he does? The twisty thing just keeps going around and around like five times very hard hard and yeah I am. I ever played them Kayode I got T._K._O.. Super Macho man he doesn't he does a few pretty the exciting things he hits really hard. He doesn't think he looks like he's coming out. Like Soda. Pop inskeep said a Balkany just like dances Pek Sacha dog but he has a special where he does like spinning Upper Wu. He's spending in spinning <hes> I. I don't know hurts every time not donny hathaway after Super Macho man. You got one more match. It's a dream match and on the nintendo switch. IT IS MR dream. If you're planning on November S car. It's going to be Mike Tyson now this some of a gun. It's it's just like it's it's a special after you beat Mr after you beat Macho man. You're the champ. It doesn't even matter the next matches exhibition in this story. I'm sticking to because he thinks I haven't beaten the game because I can't beat the very last guy however after I be dream I get all the fun credits and the kid everyone's throwing babies in the air. You never have super macho man yeah to Super Macho Man. I am. Everyone's so happy I'm so happy out my name's in the paper for new world champion little <unk> mark I curse Mac as me champion of all the punch outs there is however after Super Macho man Mr Drain there is Mr Dream slots play Mr we can't try. We do have a code for that. He is a one punch Nago Guy. 'cause I know because I got there by myself once. Try never even if he jabs you. You're on the ground visit now. We're going into this something. I didn't know because I saw going into this. Basically I've never been the beat the Mr Dream which is really matters Nice addition but from what we've warned that there's a whole <unk> another like hard plus mode where you get the fight a whole bunch of people overhead. It's called another world circuit and other world number of fires nine nine fighters. I and you'll get one chance to fight. These guys got there but let's just roll through real quick. Your first opponent will be King Hippo next one will be we'll do every other won't go tiger. Thera on will be Piston Honda Fourth One will be not soda pop again. It's basically the same that's weird. It's basically the world circuits basically they seize the exact same order again that we already played except probably harder than ball bowl sandman. Nah You missed all that Don Mango Adam Sandler from winco mister sandman Mr Zaman finishing up again with Super Macho man and then you get the white again Mike Tyson slash Mr Dream and Mike Tyson's versions. The champion is strangely labeled as another MIC champion champion whilst Mr Dream is label another champion Mc champion like like M._C._i.. Champion like mcrib aren't McMahon or McDonald's well. Let's put this out and put the sin. We're GONNA finish appear. We're GONNA say what game we're GONNA play next who were fighting. I'm Kinda scared away. It looks like mystery is name. He is entering bad ass looking mother fucker so since we got here we might as well talk about it all right so we putting the code this time I mean I'm sure I'll have some videos in feeds in here where Komo my own once before in the past but basically at this point we are listed as a world major minor title all there. We are everything which doesn't make sense because we're all until it we're we're technically Owen to in code so the Games <unk> yeah you're here but you deserve to be year but dozen legendary Mr Dream at ninety nine wins zero Lhasa's from Dreamland is reminder real place dome not just as re-lane hip land was a real place or hippo island at the age of question question but he looks about Elton Twenty nine twenty nine going on sexy years dreaming John Cena these group cut either against John Cena right here so right now the do go against John CENA sledge Mr Dream one two longest go definitely Johnson and other hit you once GonNa why you can't I'm down doesn't Stack Alastair Journal you you have him. I'm out again. He's a possible. He's possibly says that the point in Kit will yeah. That's why he's like dispense why he's like the special so guy I came hit them. I'll be happy if I did a month or digest said it's GONNA timing thing. SORTA got his feet dancing there T._K._o.. So wrote this surgery has tell his feet dance illegal dancing thing retire. You get one year one chance for him so like what we said was that after Mr Dream Name there's a whole nother series where the play like the world again we will never see that now ever ever in our lives we will heal it is possible. It's it's impossible so we'LL NEVER BE MR dream unless we literally saved stated after every punch. Oh I got him state. I gotTA GET SAFE state. There's streams. I like to watch the play old. Nintendo staff sounds brothers Youtube yeah another yeah but they play <unk> lately. They've been playing punch out. Oh if I may real quick yes since I am adamant that I beaten the game. Even though I can't be Mr Dream I just saw the credit roll. It says has after all the characters with special guests mister dream off an exhibition. It doesn't really count towards the rankings but it's the same thing Mike Tyson. It's Mike Tyson's punch out now but something's bunch of yeah if you can't beat Mike Tyson. Do you really beat the game. Is anyone really beat Mike Tyson no maybe in court I duNno I was saying I think yeah yeah. They don't get Mr Green so I don't know who's the stream I watch. I'll the stream you watch. I there's another stream who's playing games. They couldn't even get as far as we got. This ladies and gentlemen has been our punch out review on the and yes intendo switch online platform her the next game plan playing reviewing in rating what we said rating so technically right now on our scientific rating scale punchout is number one punch out is the best game game we review so far but on the scale from one to ten. What do you give punch out? Oh I'm diversion. We just play obviously I many version I made that that relation of the switch online is is great Israel like I it's it's fantastic they do a really good job is a great systems grew to your old games in hit. Your Nostalgia Punchout is one one of the greatest games ever. I been playing for mine so your life so I am. Can you ever rain a game rate a game perfect. I said we're GONNA Rayton Review. Yes wait revealed played. We did re view. We've played said we'RE GONNA rank easier to rank a game in comparison to other Games. We're going to be playing to give it a number. Rating is tough because it's close to a perfect any s game like it literally as replay value that lasts forever if you never get past the minor circuit like if you were to pick this game up every day for the rest of in your life in play the minor circuit. You're going to have a good time. Do are like this game. It's literally the epitome of Video Games. It's not one the four games come out per month and I saw on job static. It was great. Thank you now oh by internal switch because why not pay three hundred dollars punchout plus a monthly fee. I doing a number underrated. We are doing a number anything. Correct mood fuck you. Would you ray without me right now I would do. I think I would do in eight eight nine ten so now throw so would be perfect game. I know well at the C.. I is there a perfect game okay so we're guess we're going to our first any S. I'm laying game is punch out. We're going to do a ten point scale because pat so we can do mine and then you can do yours can average together in applying to stay. Everything's ten his still uh <unk> but you're going to be the number guy that he's not pollinate so in my mind in aid is perfect aid is very very good. It's near perfect yeah in on a five point scale. It's like got four hundred five which almost sounds even say four point eight or out of five yeah yeah. We're getting there so it's it's good as variously value. It's fun and it's not a two player game but I mean we still both played together in sort of race through characters so you can add bond with more than one person playing this game. It could be couch coop. Keep taking turns on rounds. Keep taking turns on Fighters Punch out out on the tennis. Which online is amazing plant our next game that we're GONNA play? I'm calling it. Would you say you're calling it. I know I'm calling it but I don't see what you say because I have the final decision. I think you know what I WANNA. I think I think we even side episodes. The game itching to play it was never released. It was a Japan name of America and it's GonNa be excite bike versus the are gonna a play really talk about that. We and it's kind of rain yeah excite by versus. I am more excited for this than pretty much any release ever in the witcher it sure is coming out on the Nintendo switch and you know what I'm GonNa do. I'M GONNA play excite bike versus. This has been the nostalgia brothers podcast. You can follow us on tiny dot com slash T. N.. B. facebook support us as pretty cool stuff on tiny euro would stand for weight tiny expertise euro dot com slash P._N._B.. Stands for the sales brothers easy to remember the T. 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Ill-Fitting Intimates? After 2 Years of Research, CUUP Definitely Has Your Size.
"This is American fashion podcast. I'm Charles Beckwith your with Kathy Shampoos I everyone and Dr Guests in the studio are co founders of a company called Cup. See You you he. And they're making undergarments abby. Morgan is here your habit. High and Kiernan. Oh Oh Maloney Maloney. Hey Charles Hi hi. My job is to get the guests names wrong. That's that's my entire job on okay. Abby also have two other CO founders. Yes we we do. We have a Lauren Harris Cohen. Who is Essentially kind of leading all things as quickly from brand vision perspective. You've so you can really see her aesthetic across all social product. Everything like that. And then we have kristen. Ferrara Ferrari Who essentially leads all things products? So is responsible for creating our assortment planning and kind of really looking at AH different innovations in product in tech sorry fabric technology and things like that. What are your jobs? What how'd you divide up? Your responsibilities wants abilities. So I'm chief marketing officer so I essentially lead all communication strategies and figure out kind of what you know. What is our story? And how are we going to tell that effectively and I'm the I'm the CEO. So I I keep the lights on in the wheels turning turning so anything to do with it a finance operations and planning and Supply chain in factories and whatnot. So tell me a little bit about the company different in the space so we set out to start cop with one thing that I think is really a special about the team is everyone. We've got this team of cross functional experts and everybody really came in with a kind of a neat curiosity around whatever it was That kind of lead them to the brand essentially cup. We wanted to set out because we couldn't find a Bra that women didn't have to compromise with meaning. You can find a Bra. Aw that maybe fits you. Although that's pretty limited on we'll go into that or you can find a Bra that might support you but it chances are it doesn't look good good and essentially you have to compromise between one of those things so we set out. How can we create a product that is you never have to? Compromise is between fit function and style but then also with looking at the current Zeitgeist of where we are from a brand perspective Tiv- and UNHU women want to identify as and how we want to identify in terms of our sensuality. And what we're looking for from an intimate brand so we just saw a really big opportunity from a product perspective from a building a community perspective and then like a brand position perspective as well. What's what's behind the that compromise that's existed for? I'm guessing a pretty long time. Wh Why is there a compromise in most into these products. This is a very interesting space in category. That has a lot of issues. I think some of our quite apparent to consumers and some are not. I think I think a lot of the brand positioning of some of the large market place. Incumbents is very apparent to customers and the consumers in terms of being out of sync with the current guys. I think there's some other issues that are not such as how bras designed and manufactured factored that have led to some real structural issues that will translate into a pretty underwhelming customer experience. And so for for us. It was trying to fix the thesis of what we wanted to do on. Paper sounds quite easy right. Great looking product. That works is supportive. Would've with a brand story. Well told executed well. Direct to consumer to executed is really hard and a lot of those issues. Do Emanate from the supply. Chain in how bras are designed and built. These are very complex to make there. Are there's multiple parts in ABROA- and you're solving for fit. Where are you really trying to solve for perfection right in terms of if you go to white t shirt it can be fit forgiving? You can have perfectly mold to your body. Where a bra you dealing with an infinite amount of body shapes and sizes and to really have a good customer experience and he's a fit really well? It'll look good and that's really hard to do. They're very technical technical. And so that was sort of the interesting thing to try to figure out how to unlock and it's very challenging to do so. We have forty sizes and we're kind of scratching the surface and I think that says everything versus shoes right just in terms of the dozens of the multitude of different body shapes and sizes is if you want a service. The market appropriately. You need to have a real breadth in sizes and that's hard and I think you see that in a lot of brands today Eh. especially new Lebron's but a lot of also the old incumbent brands have a real narrowness in sizing because it's hard to do and that leads to unfortunately Louis again a pretty underwhelming experience for customers when you can't find a Bra that looks good in your size. So it's Kintu shoes in terms of you need lots of sizes you just need infinitely more and on the there's also one of the things we saw to kind of unpack like style. Aesthetic in shaping trend as well and support is like. We're we're changing in terms of how we want our shape to be position changing in terms of close where there's a big kind of trend. That's maybe moving a little bit like norm core in some kind of industries and fashion but but also like in Bras like we're as women embracing our natural shape and feeling really great about that and that's kind of the uptick you've seen in the brawl at trend and it's something that the structural thing is abroad let over what's abrupt. Uh sorry so a Bra let is essentially a bra of a piece of fabric. That's a lot more technical than the traditional Braga Armitt Traditionally without under wire and it set to kind of minimize and really started a trend that was allowing to be shown underclothes and be kind of like an accessory three to your outfit versus something. That's just supportive and kind of hidden which was traditionally the Bra prior to that. So essentially. We're seeing this trend umbrella and women to embrace their natural shape and not be squeezed or pushed up and an essentially that. The BRA doesn't support over decoupled larger. Just functionally he doesn't work for women in those who who have bigger breasts so essentially Being able to create something that fits on that trend and allows to kind of embrace that natural shape actually supports work with something that we really cared about as well looking for older episodes of American fashion podcast while we actually ran out of space in our feed so we have archived them and you can find the archive at American fashioned Ashen. PODCAST DOT COM archive is in the main menu. And that'll take you over to a platform where you can subscribe to the archive and support the shop. That's American confession. PODCAST DOT COM for past episodes. So I think that most women think that the natural shape won't give them support. Yeah so so. But that's not true. No not at all and I think that really comes down to kind of you know it was one thing that we at COP. I mean we did eighteen months of RND prior to even launching launching the brand and it really was. How can we allow women of all different sizes to have this similar experience? Where a thirty four B. Embracing your natural shape is very very similar to a thirty eight G And and the materials we're not adding extra excess padding or or material where keeping this minimize but very supportive shape and that was through you know our our co founder Krizan the team really looking into like where the innovations of fabric Abrek and we have one called power. And how can we make sure that it super supportive but also really lightweight and not restrictive. So you you've okay so I have two of them now and I feel like you've solved a multitude of problems but I also read that you did all of this in two two years time right. There was two years preparation. So is that true. I think I read that in his magazine so I think there's a lot you know. This is almost like a case study and I want to talk more about the product But the fact is you. It seems as if you came out of the box I mean. I went to your Showroom or salon however referred or at and had An incredible experience because you also hired a complete expert because this young girl worked for Linda the brawl eighty which everyone knows her. Been New York. She's famous You know and then the fit is right. The Bra you don't even feel like you have it on by the end of the day and it absolutely doesn't move and it looks you know subtly sexy and the colors like are absolutely beautiful and don't show through clothing on top of which you ship in a beautiful box and I have to say nobody's paying me say this But I mean part of what you know so you you mentioned it before for you. Hit It from every angle. You know product performance marketing. Branding like how did you. How did you do that in two years? I I think we came. We came we came at this with a thesis about what we wanted this to be You know and and for Abbey's Abe's comment earlier. This is one of those industries where you know you really are well-served by putting a lot of kind of smart talented people. In the room that are addressing different things and at its halt we wanted to have great product. Great brand storytelling and strong execution In a direct consumer Model I think we could have. We could have spent years tinkering with product because because it is so hard to do well and what we were aspiring to to to execute against in product. We felt was pretty high. Why and I think you know we've two years a lot? I think we spend more time on it and I think I think what we're learning now is we're making you know we're never. We're never never tied with what we have. I think we're constantly making small tweaks in adjusting based on what we hear from customers you know. We launched launched Auburn in one of our silhouettes which is called the scoop. We heard from customers very early on that. In a thirty banned for example they needed more adjustability on the strap. It's a small for example. But it's something where you hear that and so take that in make that adjustment and like and and move forward and so at some point you have to like launch But we spend we spend an infinite amount of time on really get any sort of force other wets right and we only did four silhouettes because we felt it was the right curation ration- to have every bra you need in your drawer but it also allowed us to lean into sizes and to be able to launch with forty sizes sizes which is really important and I think a lot of a lot of new brands in the category and I think for the most part of thirty two overly critical you know whether for short on products and at product and sizing and launching with fifteen sizes. Just doesn't cut it and so we wanted to spend the time and make sure that we got them right in every size so we felt it was a long time. I think I think a lot of brands. He's spent a lot less than that and also also having a also having a manufacturing manufacturing partner where we just have real agility. We could turn a sample around twenty four hours where I think it probably takes you eight weeks if you don't have that relationship allowed L.. Allowed us to kind of compress the timeframe accordingly even just changing your product. And take you you know another year so actually I mean having worked with some emerging designers China. Two years is really fast. But I mean is is is fast. Yeah you're manufacturing locally. No we're we're manufacturing in manufacturing in Asia but we're able to we we're one of our partner manufacturing partner. Has We have our own. Sample room are earn technical design and so we can turn a sample in twenty for hours puppet in the mail and ship it over there overseas for the very small the ship and so having having that agility being able to move quickly is really really important and again if we're for constantly looking to make the product better having that mentality of just being racist about an always thinking that you can do better with it is so important and and how we want to be thinking about product and it really allowed us to challenge kind of the RND R&D for product meaning. Most people are allowed are able to do about twelve to eighteen fittings in order to change their product and we did close to eighty and we were are also able to most people or most competitors will essentially fit on one body size that's kind of the medium of of and then essentially what they call grade so scale the product up and down based off of this one fit and we were essentially able to fit like ten different sizes and kind of scale. AOL Inbetween though sizes because because of this manufacturing relationship it's actually a really important point. This is one of those topics you can go down a rabbit hole for hours but it is actually the John Locke in this category when you really when when you when you sort of step back and understand what the pain points. All this is actually super important. What happens is most brands sized a thirty four B. and that's actually not the medium size? At all two-thirds of years women are decoupled higher and they will size in a thirty four B. and then grade on a linear line like ten different measurements on what is curved body. And what often happens with that is manifest that bigger sizes you get excess coverage on Abroa- breath at so if you're buying a silhouette and into a brand and that that brand point of view and you see an image on a thirty four B. and when you're buying a thirty four F four thirty eight Asia you buying a fundamentally different product because the proportions are out and you know we sort of think it's lazy manufacturing. You have to do the work and Taylor the sizes Taylor the proportions on every size and as painful to do you have to do. We did eighty one hundred fittings to get it right But we we liked that. We did that because we you know we we see it in in the testimonials from customers. They're really happy with you. Know with product in their sized. They're getting that that is proportionate to them and not this thirty four beat. It's been graded up in his. Could've you know out of proportion Outta wack with their size. I think it's great that you're giving depth and size because I think another pain point is just too much of a of an assortment whether it's online or you walk into a store and how the decision you know what I mean so oh I think I think the focus is great. I mean that we wanted to go in with extremely edited assortment and really focus on the silhouettes And focus focus on very specific kind of editorial color drops and just just have a really strong perspective on both Silhouette and style and then also caller in different things versus like just adding more skews and kind of not being consistent. So yeah if we can keep the bras consistent and the experience on the product looking the same from thirty four B to a thirty eight J. like that's kind of Manga so how how is the. How does the video chat work? And how is that working from a conversion standpoint so so you can get fit in person in our office You can get fit on the phone. We do live video chat which you can schedule on our site? It's really effective. I think we have a ninety. Five percent. CONVERSION RATE OF PEOPLE GET FIT. It's pretty extraordinary. And I think there's a there's a bunch of reasons for that You have to have really good fitters. They are experts in their field. They come at it from a come at it with real empathy I think a L. Anecdote what we hear from. We'll we'll have done about a thousand fittings. Sit in our live video or sort of in our in our fitting room and Ad for the most part you know there's women have fit before the law. Sunday got fit was when they took him to Victoria secret in their teens. At it's you know it can be a deeply emotive experience. And it's and I think it can be quite quite unusual experience and add so and that's coupled with I think the vast majority of women who get fit are wearing the wrong size it is a truism that eighty percent of women all wearing the wrong size we see it and so it's tremendously effective because I think you know what we hear her. Is You know when you when you when you put a customer in the right size and you've got great products and great bras. That is a great experience. And that's why we're converting thinks so highly on it. I mean it's intimates for a reason right it's one of the most intimate conversations and experiences. You can have so to kind of emphasize what Kiernan saying about like leading with empathy and emotion like there we call our fit experts fit therapists because it is. It's a sense of therapy. Be and people go in and it's it's such a it's hard to befit by another woman on also told kind of like you're wearing a sized generally that's bigger than you think that your actual sizes right generally you're caught bigger and essentially like there's a lot of size stigma and a lot of different different things emotionally that are attached to that so I think kind of leaning into this and carrying that through the brand narrative and just like really anchoring emotion is a big thing that we're focusing on a cop. How do you deal with people who aren't symmetrical physically? That is so essentially our are fit. Therapist has been doing this. She did it. She was a fit therapist journal. She's been doing this for fifteen years or so and essentially and she will size to the best for ability and then if there's different things that she might recommend it's very specific and personal to the person we put together four Solo wets to address different neckline preferences and also different body shapes and not every woman awful silhouettes initially work for a person You know sometimes you know. Sometimes it's sort of three or four or two out of four different silhouettes do work differently with different uh-huh and do fit differently with different body shapes and sizes and so I think we have. We have customers that are now we have the Balkany the plunge the Damian the scoop off fifth we dismantle the triangle. We have you know we we have a woman that y you know. The plunge is there bra. And they're they're they're there plunged woman We have like bulky woman with and there's plenty that that sort of shop across the wets but I think that's one that's one of the manifestations of said asymmetry different from body shapes is different silhouettes do differently or better for you or or not as well for you. So you're having good conversion online but you're also obviously which which she says like ninety five percent you're probably having one hundred percents conversion with the By appointment so you're mentioning fit experts are. Is there our plan to have more of them. You know and start to do that in some other way across the country or can you talk about it or what yet. So there's definitely definitely a lot of interest in terms of how we can utilize it educational platform which we call body talk which is about a conversation around things that are inherently female and things that feel very intimate. How can we leverage that as a activation for fit and kind of tap into a community whether it's like grass roots approach whether it's kind of combining with social communities and activation say like a glossy has done and some of the other brands brands and then actually bringing on kind of like a force in different metropolitans like a salesforce of type that are fit therapists coupled with kind of like field managers or brand activators to really kind of like ignite local interest for Cup your we we've done a lot of We tried as many fittings as possible. It's a good thing for the brand we've really believe in our product. The experience is is fantastic for for customers whenever we get feedback on it and so we try we try and acted fittings wherever we can so we do a lot of office pop up. So we'll take our team will go into glossier or a vogue. Or how bizarre goop will pump in their office. We'll do it around happy hour often with pre schedule thirty fittings. We often get thirty. Be customers out of it and it's a great way for us to kind of get a brand out for people to kind of touch and feel product and we really believe in it And so I think you know this is a this is a category where advocacy matters And so yeah that having that human element is really important and so you know we join US stores at this. This is a category. We're having stores in the future makes perfect sense. We need the big. The massive theater of Victoria secret store. But uh having a a place where you can have tactile experience with product and get fit is really interesting to us at some point but I think any any opportunity we can have to to sort of activate physical fittings in mortgage in New York. We've we've flown the team out to L. A. and activated events in L. A.. And we've done a bunch of events out out there and I think we'll continue to do that. We really believe in it. It's it's good for the brand it makes sense and again advocacy in this category. Really does matter so having those people convert convert to kind of Cuff Cup customers. They'd until we we'd like that and we call. Our kind of tagline are marching. Orders is we support e both figuratively and on literally. And so we're supporting withdraw. How can we kind of take that and expand With this community as well as exciting. It's really exciting. So some you talked a little little bit about Before about supply chain and you know there was a traditional way of making things But something you had said that I also read was was that you had to get some people you know you uncovered a lot of issues and then you really get some manufacturers to break the rules like what did they do. That was so different and what I mentioned before where you know. There's a reason brands fit on thirty four being grade because it's easier for manufacturers. Any factor is so if you're sitting on a size and then you taking several measurements tanner. Twelve measurements ad is a line. You know so if a thirty four B. The mathematical equation to get to thirty. Four D is X.. Based on these sort of ten different measurements. It's easy for a manufacturer to sit up their their manufacturing base in the supply chain. When you have those simple rules to break those rules you have to change grading and that's hard and so you know it's an unless you really big as a brand getting manufacturers to sort of acquiesce to those changes is impossible unless you have unless you have like a sort of unique relationship with with with one of those supply chain partners we have that it's one of our biggest investors and so they were commercial enough enough to sort of understand that breaking rules would would allow us to create a differentiated product and brand positioning? And so that's sort of an example of breaking rules is really changing house. How we size and grey different sizes and don't start on the thirty four be starting up thought in a thirty six e Anna thirty four beat the same time come at it with a philosophy of how do we make these two? How do we make these? Two Bras is identical to those customers from an experience perspective proportionately. No no unnecessary slings or double panning or wings or whatnot. Don't think about that customers. There's an awful thought. Start with that person as as as a starting point and also breaking the rules again with with fabric. It's just you know the the manufacturers factors weren't used to work in factories weren't used to working with these types of materials like traditionally we have lace and we have padded bras and and what we and memory foam and we really wanted to look at power meshes and different things that we're not traditionally used for bras and that's a big message. I mean for people you know. It's also oh you don't as far as the grading there's like industry standards and then as far as what women wear it's like. I think we've just accepted what's out there at this point totally So it's like letting people know that you don't have to have certain things that not only one way for support is really important yeah and redefining kind in how we think about those materials as understanding how supportive they can actually be yet still lightweight and minimal. That's a really big amok for us. So these sir performance fabrics more. Yes yes we. It was really important to us too. We really wanted to nail online lightweight high-performance and pipe foams meaning it supportive. It fits well. You don't know you wearing it's doing. Its job right and it's sort of interesting I think if you look at Victoria's secret back back in the early eighties. It was primarily unlined but they were kind of capped out at sizes because the fabric didn't do its job and there's been a lot of innovation and progression progression with the technical attributes fabrics since then but the honest padded bras or just more forgiving as a as a brand or manufacturer. They more foot forgiving. Giving you can be in the wrong size. And it's okay unlined bras are are just less forgiving. But we we think they're they're a fog better enriching experience for a customer when he just when you don't know that you wearing when you have less stuff on but it still works So that's what that's what took the most time was to really kind of nail fit with online. It's just harder. It's something we. We had a lot of curiosity around. It's something got just as as a team. You Know Abby Lauren Krizan. It's sort of what what they wanted for themselves. And so we wanted to solve that. So none of your products are patented none. Uh Kathy you went and experienced the defending procedure. How did it go? What what was your experience? Hey so first of all. I'm very visual. So the office is is like Dreamy. Okay I mean the exactly the way these bras are designed and the colors that are offering like they're they're saying performance fabric and that might make you think of something I don't know kind of clinical but there you go thanks exactly so the presentation over all of the Bras. It's I guess there's a there's like a seeming or taping outlining the bra that is just a slight different shade than the actual color of the Bra. I don't know if that makes sense. I'm going off into a tangent but in any case so the product excel is the first piece of the appointment that's amazing and and then Tanya Name Yep She just started asking me questions and she saw what I was wearing and just pulled out some bras and put them on and it was. You know I've gone through this before so for people that are listening. I do not have you know I wear a very very small. Brass is so I'm small and then I think three years ago I went into Victoria secret and they actually put me into a teacup and the only way for me to be in a cup would be if I filled it with. I don't know what no it was crazy and I actually insane. No I know it's insane. It's insane side and do you don't want to have any of your skin. If if you not perfectly toned some of your skin can roll over. So they went to the next cup to get the width on the side. I think and I'm not usually easily intimidated Eh. I came home with these things and I. I look like a crazy person so so Tanya is you know the experience it was a very ashort appointment but she was lovely knew what she was doing and I left with these beautiful bras and the office I mean the whole environment is right. I mean I I think this is what It's things like this are the experiences that are solving a problem. You know that are great from the beginning to the end that that makes you make a purchase and the price. I don't think I said that it's under one hundred dollars. whiches I think is brilliant? That's great yeah I really you hearing or hearing this we do. I think that end to end consumer experience just thinking about like every single key jason meticulous detail that goes into the packaging and the products of talked about the experience of being fit like really anchoring it all in kind kind of emotion of what we want from a modern day brand that that was really kind of we're constantly challenging every single aspect of it like emails digital everything and just making sure that it really feels cohesive to that kind of like overall message. So what do you wish you knew about this industry going into it that you didn't know what do you wish. Now that you know I wish I think it's been really from the get-go we've had so many experiences talking to our customer and really involved our customers in kind of the the the brand narrative whether it was friends and finding out what it felt like to take off a thirty eight G. and how it felt matronly on the floor and exactly the experience that they were looking for two friends that just just fell might be small band bigger cop which was my experience and just felt completely ignored and always just to kind kind of compromise them whether it was like actual fit or actual support because there is just not options out there I think like having more of those conversations faster Mr would have been really really helpful at the beginning because it just didn't have the bandwidth or the tools to be able to have that two way conversation And I think that like as our our social expands and are at digital channels but then also just like manpower in terms of customer service and all of this I think like You know just that kind of like rnd loop just trying to figure out how we can incorporate feedback fasters. Think I wish I had thought about you. I mean I for me Obviously is a guy. It's as sort of personal experience but I I suspected this coming in. And that's being kind of overwhelming sandwiches it is a deeply emotive category. And when you have you know we we opened up fitting room in our offices and that's not the most efficient thing to do but it was really important to hear and speak to customers and I think you know we came. We came at this with a thesis that we weren't this wasn't a motive of category and we liked that. Because if you do a good job you can create resonance bull relationships build loyalty and I think just the sort of magnitude or that is being you know pretty impactful for me like we're you know nothing. N- is a feeling then when someone comes in and also to speak to Tania in your off the woods and Tania Tania's in tears because she's had an amazing fit experience with someone is someone's walked off with a bra that they couldn't find before and that part is the most awarding for for all of us. Because you know when Abby said feeling ignored I think there are just you know there's sort of swaths of the population that just don't have great experiences or options and always been looking for that arm lined plunge bra in excise and being able to deliver that And we've lost forty sizes and again. I think we know we certainly have the intend. Intend to expand that you know we. It's a lot out of the gate and we want to do more of and so there's there's plenty of not fulfilling right now with sizes is that we're very acutely sensitive to we hear from them And we want us to address that but I think I think just that that level of the kind of emotiveness in this category is pretty eye opening and pretty rewarding And just just I think just instills a motivation to do more to do better. I mean it's it's amazing that people are looking for like we're in a time where we're looking for so much substance from both products. We buy and identify with our brands. And I think to be able to deliver on that is like really really exciting so The website is Shop Cup. Dot Com C.. You Up Cup a and if people want to go and get fitted they can do that. Yes please come in. We can offer Video Fittings online go to the website. You can book an appointment. If you WANNA come into the showroom in Soho and and we'd love to fit everybody wonderful great fun talking about you. 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"From NPR and WBZ. I'm young. I'm Jeremy Hobson. It's here and now China. Today reported more than two hundred forty new deaths from Kovic nineteen and who bay province where the corona virus breaks started. It has now spread to more than twenty countries and having worldwide impact. Spain cancelled the world's top mobile trade fair the World Mobile Conference scheduled for later this month because of fears about the virus joining us now is Howard. Jiang who's head of the BBC's China Service? He's following this from London. Howard first of all explain the big jump in numbers more than two hundred and forty new deaths in just one day yes I think overnight two things happened. One is the the highest in-command in the province of Bay. Which is the epicenter of this corona virus or now the Kobe? Nineteen Epidemic was replaced and At the same time I think the local government. Now change the Counting methods how they count confirmed cases and death whether it was death from this particular cause or something else. Da was the main reason for people to see all of a sudden the Spike. In all the monitoring charts. We'll explain what you mean by that. How is the way that they count the cases changing One expert we interviewed this morning explaining that for Longtime for the past few weeks. They've been counting anyone who's been to a hospital and tested and confirmed to have contracted or got infected with this virus to be a firm case and then if you died from that then that was affirmed death from Corona virus. Anyone else was not made it into the hospital because there are so many cases so many people falling ill many of them are many say the majority of them just could not make it into the hospital and the one Recovering patient told us the ordeal. She waited ten days before she was even allowed into one of those Patient rooms so was the reason. Why the number before? Many say was Artificially low and what about the news? Today of the change in leadership there has been a fear all along that The information that we are getting in the outside world from China may not be entirely accurate. D- Does the leadership change mean that we can be more trustful of the information. That's coming out of China about the virus to a certain degree but the current new leader shifted in two Hu Bei were also from the weather. What I what most people call the law and order faction so Their main mission. You can from their past experiences still there to make sure the population stays relatively order. And so that's a strong signal to make sure however much anger there is in the population and these people they they have the experience to keep it quiet The death toll in China is now above hundred with more than fifty thousand cases. Lacrosse China does. This appear to be out of control at this point. Or how do you see having looked at it and watched it over the last couple of weeks on depending on who you talk to? If you talk to experts outside China many say many of those people carrying the viruses cook the everywhere but at the same time within China There's always a school thought saying okay. We've rained off most of the main cities so They're saying eventually this will blow over. You know with that and people with a infection. Either you recover you die so that that's the type of Depending on who you talk to you do get different pictures. One more thing I want to ask you about because as we've been following a covert nineteen one of the stories that keeps popping up. Are these cruise ships that are filled with passengers and in many cases there might be a few cases and there are more cases but there are thousands of people who are quarantined. On these ships. There was one ship stranded at sea for two weeks and today we learned has finally been allowed to dock in Cambodia. What are you watching in terms of the cruise ships? That are out there. Yes up besides that ship. The luckier luckily finally got Docked we also have the Saga of that Princess Diamond of the shore of Japan near Yokohama. Bay and Last week we had the lucky ship near Hong Kong. Where finally the majority of people cleared? And we're allowed to leave so all these Things relate to how the delay in reporting cases really really affect and You know people's livelihood life or death issue essentially it's not even livelihood it's life or death and cruise ships is a perfect incubator for especially those people who were unfortunately Pain slightly lower prices staying in on the inside of the cruise ship without the Balkany alcs access. They have no chance of getting fresh air so they have more of a chance getting the stale air from within the ship that is Howard Jiang. Who is the head of the BBC's Chinese Service Howard thank you? Thank you well attorney. General William Bar has agreed to testify in front of the House Judiciary Committee next month to explain his intervention. In the case of President Trump's longtime associate roger stone stone was convicted of lying to Congress obstruction and witness tampering. In Special Counsel Robert Muller's Russia investigation. President Trump tweeted out that the sentence recommendation made by prosecutors. Seven to nine years was horrible and very unfair. Shortly after that Justice Department leadership intervene to seek a lower sentence in a press conference today speaker of the House. Nancy Pelosi characterize the entire affair. This way this is an abuse of power that the president is again trying to manipulate federal law enforcement to serve his political interest. Npr Justice correspondent. Ryan Lucas has been following all of this High Ryan. Other and to review the four prosecutors resigned from the Roger Stone case after the Justice Department. Intervene recommend that lower sentence. We can assume that this was a decision made at the highest level at the DOJ. How unusual is it? Four and attorney general to intervene like this. Well it's it's common in big cases for The US Attorney's Office There are tons of them across the country but for for a US attorney's office to communicate with main justice here in Washington DC. About a case decisions made on that case But it is very unusual. I'm told by a former prosecutors people who have a lot of experience with the criminal justice system DOJ and how it works. It's highly unusual for a senior Justice Department leadership to weigh in on a case and overrule the line. Prosecutors have handled a case when it comes to a sentencing recommendation. That is highly unusual. And that's partly why we have seen so much blowback to this. We'll justice department officials say they were not reacting to the president's initial tweet but then he tweeted out again congratulating. William Bar on intervening. So what do we know about the actual sequence of events? Will this all stems from the sentencing? Memos that the that the prosecutor submitted on Monday evening which is a regular part of the sentencing process stone is due to be sentenced next Thursday so prosecutors submitted their memo on Monday evening where they recommended a sentence of seven to nine years for stone then on Tuesday morning the president tweeted that he thought that this recommendation was horribly unfair. And that you know this this what he called. A miscarriage of justice can't be allowed to happen and then around midday on Tuesday Senior Justice Department official Said that the department was shocked by this recommendation. By the by the career line prosecutors And said that they would clarify the Justice Department's position so a few hours after that A supplemental sentencing memo was submitted to the court. In which the Justice Department essentially said that stone committed serious offenses. He should spend some time behind bars. But that They feel that the amount of time that he spends behind bars should be far less than the seventy nine years. It was originally recommended originally recommended And they left the ultimate decision. On how much time of course to the judge in the case so all of this time line despite the fact that the Justice Department has said That the decision to push back on this initial recommendation was made on Monday evening. The timeline of the president's tweets and how the Justice Department then intervened in. This case is certainly a fueled all of these questions about potential political interference. Why the Justice Department was weighing in like this and I have certainly heard from sources of mine former federal prosecutors people who Who Know the Justice System Concerns about how this may tarnish The integrity of the justice system and and potentially Raise questions about Even-handedness of the Justice Department itself will you mentioned the judge on twitter. The president attacked the judge. In the case Amy Berman Jackson. How unusual is that and you've been in the courtroom with her about her We have seen president trump. Go after judges in cases that he's been paying attention to So in the case of president trump. It's not unusual for him to target a judge in this way on twitter as far as As Judge Amy Berman Jackson. She is the judge who oversaw the case against Paul Manafort here in Washington DC That's president trump's former campaign manager against manafort's Deputy Rick Gates Against stone and then also against someone else in a case that kind of spun off of the Muller Investigation. That's Great Craig. And she has been very even-handed in court. I think a lot of people would would say She certainly gave Manafort and Gates Pardon me Manafort and stone time to kind of correct for what we're viewed as mistakes that they made during the course of the lead up to trial ultimately she ended up putting Manafort Remanded into custody because of witness tampering during the case In stone she eventually put a gag order on so she has when needed to be brought a strong hand to the case But she has shown a lot of patients in this When it came to Manafort sentence she manafort sentencing. She actually ended up giving basically a forty five minute speech as she spelled out exactly why she came down the way that she did on the final sense. Okay we're going to follow the story throughout today as we continue to get reaction as we said. House Speaker Nancy. Pelosi is called the incident and abuse of power of but Republicans are weighing in as well. We'll hear throughout the day. Npr Justice correspondent. Ryan Lucas. Thank you thank you. Some of the greatest artists in music have played behind. Npr music tiny desk. Could you be next? Entered the tiny does contest by submitting a video of you playing original song behind a desk. If you win you'll get to play a tiny desk concert learn more at NPR dot org slash tiny desk contest. I have been accused of acting out of partisan political motives. Those who say that. Do Not Know Me. I am an independent person and I am. No one's pawn that Christine Bossie four testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee about her allegations of sexual assault. Against now Supreme Court Justice Brad Kavanagh back in September. Two thousand eighteen was the country witnessed those hearings. Many were inspired to action and are here now resident chef Kathy guns to was inspired to bake. She's just written a new book with Catherine Gulford titled Rage. Baking the transformative power of flour fury and women's voices and Kathy joins me now to talk about it. Hi Cathy great to talk to you. Jeremy thing and what was it about those hearings that made you want to bake with rage? Well it snuck up on me. I had NPR. On kind of obsessively. I was listening to the hearings and it didn't take long before I realized that nobody was really listening to her. I felt like this woman was so brave that she was risking her safety her family her career and yet I felt like they were just pretending to listen and after the first night of the hearings I went into my kitchen and I started to bake and it wasn't like a normal baking session. I would bake a pie a cake and cookies and I wasn't aware at the time of why I was doing what I was doing like. Why was I- baking and why was I- baking obsessively? I'm a good Baker. But my other cookbooks have all been primarily about savory food and in retrospect. I mean you know me. I'm not that woman that follows the rules and you know kind of a little outside of the envelope but baking was all about following rules and each night during those hearings as I felt more and more enraged. I found myself somewhat grounded by knowing if I measured my flower if I measured the Sugar. The results would be sweet oddly. It wasn't even that I wanted to eat it all. It was not rage. Eating which is a whole other thing was really about following Lee's rules and getting a result and so did baking stop the rage. No Hell No. It's not. This book is not about stopping rage. it helped me feel. I guess a sense of energy to go on the next day and kind of fight the good fight because it became really clear to me that women and men. We're going to have to really get serious about finding truth and voting and speaking their minds and it helped me redirect that way you know Kathy. There are going to be a lot of listeners to this show who here you all the time. Talk about food and think. We'll wait a minute. Kathy is the one part of here now. That's not political. And now here she is talking about how driven she is by the politics that she's seeing to bake. What do you say to those people? I'm really glad you brought that up because I feel like this is a book whose primary goal is to open conversation. This is not just a cookbook. There are essays. There are interviews. There's old photography and new photography and it's really a collective of over forty women's voices. Everyone from musician on a Franco to writers like Rebecca. Trae stor Cecile Richards. Who ran planned? Parenthood and the goal is not to inflame more anger. The goal is to try to create conversations and there is no better way to create conversation than to sit at a table with food and baking unlike savory food is truly about sharing. I mean if you make a sandwich it's for one but if you make a cake or a pie you have to cut it into many pieces and you share it with people. So you're baking for community and I think the goal of this book more than anything was to create a sense of community in these deeply polarizing times. Well I'm glad you mentioned Rebecca Trace Ter- because our producer Emiko has put together some of the dishes that are in this because of course as you say it's not just about the politics it's also about the baking that you are doing and Rebecca's recipe in here so good is a Zucchini almond bread. Correct Rebecca trae stir wrote good and mad and we have a small essay in the book but also she wrote and she's like sure I'll use the SA. But how about. I send you a recipe and we were completely thrilled. What I love about this recipe. Is that you ground up a cup of almonds and it gives Zucchini bread a really wonderful nutty flavor and texture. And you know it's one of these breads that takes like twenty twenty five minutes and then it bakes and you have this beautiful loaf of bread that you can toast. You can add eating right now. I will say it's got a nice kick to it right. Yeah lots of Nice cinnamon but It's those ground almonds. You do have an essay in this book from Charlotte Druckman. Who isn't so sure that she believes in the idea of rage. Baking why was it important to include that essay in this book? Well this is a great story Charlotte is a food writer that I really admire and I reached out to her and said. Would you be interested in writing an essay for this new book? We're putting together called rage baking and the prompt that I gave the writers was. What does rage mean to you? And what does the phrase rage baking main and Charlotte immediately wrote back? This very long email explaining why she didn't want to be in the book that reached baking really didn't make sense to her that she didn't bake out of rage that that's what writing was about for her and I read the email and immediately I knew that's our. Sa This is the journalist side of Kathy guns. Which is you always want to hear from all sides right Kathy and even in is your was important. She asks really great questions in that essay. What is reach baking mean? Will it really change anything? Will it change who we vote for? Will it change? Who ends up with money in their political party and these are really important questions to ask. Rage baking is not a solution for all the ills and the anxiety that we feel as a nation right now but it is away as I said to build community and to kind of it can becoming. I mean there's nothing like you spend twenty minutes at your kitchenaid and you put together a beautiful cake. You put it in the oven and then for an hour you wait. So you have this lesson in patience and that's why we wanted to include essays. We imagined as the cakes were baking. You would sit down and read some of these essays from these women and feel inspired. This is another really important part of this book when I started it listening to the Cavin hearings I started from a place of sadness and rage and by the time we were done and I had heard from these women from all over the country from all walks of life. I really felt a sense of hope. You know it's good that you brought up the idea of waiting for something to be done in the oven because maybe that prepares you to wait for the Iowa caucus results come out takes a while these days there chocolate chip cookies here Tahini chocolate chip cookies. Which are your recipe. I'm GonNa try one as you tell me why you decided to include these. I love these cookies more than any other cookies in the whole world right now. I don't like peanut butter. Which many people find that shocking? I only like an unsavory food but I adored Tahini which is ground sesame seeds and I love the Nutty creamy richness. It adds to a chocolate chip cookie sprinkled with white sesame seeds and then when they're still warm you sprinkled with coarse salt so you get sweet savory salty it hits it all the salty part really does make them stand out. You've also got a list in this book of some tips for Baker's making things as simple as cookies including many that I didn't realize like don't crack all the eggs in there at one time. We gotta do them one at a time. Yeah this is a serious baking book. As well is a book filled with inspiring interviews and essays. I learned so much speaking like I mean I just baked baked for months and yet it turns out if you put the eggs in one at a time. It gives the batter a chance to absorb eggs and it builds volume lightness. One of the most important things that I learned baking was to do what the French call Meson. Plus which is getting all the ingredients ready and anybody out. There probably had the same experience. I did where you're halfway through the recipe. The phone rings you get taxed the Ping goes off. And you're like wait. Did I add the Baking Soda? But if you put all your ingredients out on a sheet of Parchment Paper. I'll look it's right there actually. I didn't add it so there are a lot of tips in there that we wanted to give people because baking is about patients. It's unlike savory food where you can kind of shoot from the hip and hard to screw up but peaking requires some patients and slowing down. Kathy this is what number book for. You Sixteen Sixteen. I've got a couple of the other ones that you've written. I occasionally will look into them and do a recipe. I just did your chicken tortilla soup from Ucla but this book in particular it seems is one that you have more passion about than the others. Is that fair to say I would say that. It was the most fulfilling project of my life working with my co author. Catherine offered who's been a friend for ten years and it was like creative sparks flying every day. These women that we reached out to responded we would send an email saying hey. We're working on a project called rage baking and within minutes in many cases we got back a hell yes from people that we admire so much so also for me. I'm a writer. I love to write this book. Combines my passion for food for baking for writing and for editing that is Kathy? Guns are resident chef. Who's new book is called rage? Baking the transformative power of flour fury and women's voices. She wrote it with Catherine offered can thank you so much. Thanks Jeremy. The mcclatchy newspaper chain announced today that it is filing for bankruptcy protection. Mcclatchy currently operates. Thirty newsrooms around the country including the Miami Herald the Kansas City Star the Charlotte Observer and the Fort Worth Star. Let's bring in Alabama she. Msnbc ANCHOR and economics correspondent Halle Germany. So mcclatchy is a one hundred and sixty three year. Old Family owned business. The second largest newspaper publisher in the country. What HAPPENED LISTENS. The sign of the times and of what newspapers have been going through But it's writ large a couple of problems. First of all in two thousand and six mcclatchy bought its much larger competitor Knight Ridder for four and a half billion dollars. Some of it was cash. Some of it was stocked but they assumed two billion dollars in debt and that sort of coincided with a decline in revenue if you look at that period between two thousand six and two thousand eighteen the advertising revenues which is what a newspaper survives on fell by eighty percent daily print. Newspaper circulation fell by fifty nine percent. So they made this purchase. It looked like it was going to be benefiting from the the scale of having these two newspaper companies and then the bottom fell out of the industry now. The chapter eleven filing is going to eliminate about sixty percent of mcclatchy seven hundred million dollars in debt but it will allow the company to keep its thirty newspapers afloat. Apparently what what? What else is in the agreement? Well it's going to transfer ownership basically of the company to a New Jersey based Hedge Fund. Which also by the way owns the national enquirer. It's got a bunch of things in it. That are going to allow for restructuring. A Course got a approved this the biggest issue that they're going to have a problem with is that a lot of the debt is pensions. They argue that they they have. Pensions worker supporting Ten pensions so the pension benefit guaranty corporation. Which a lot of people don't know about are going to is going to have to take over the administration of the company's pension plan that's basically what the big problem is right now they do have some new financing. So there's a possibility that the company will continue to operate while in bankruptcy but going into bankruptcy to get rid of debt is always a tricky situation doesn't always result in what the company wants and is there a billionaire at the end of the Rainbow by this newspaper company as has happened with the course the Washington Post the Boston Globe and others There are some people circling this post media. Which is the largest newspaper chain in? Canada seems to be interested in this whole thing. Chatham has controlling stake in American media and Post Media. Post media tends to be a little bit more of a conservative outlet in in Canada and doesn't have the best reputation of preserving journalism mcclatchy sort of enjoyed a stronger reputation amongst print journalists in the United States. But they're speculation that this hedge fund will eventually by a lot of stuff that will allow it to sort of control the distribution network for newspapers. And so that's this is sort of a multi media play that we're looking and big picture alley. Is there any hope for these local newspapers that have been going out of business left and right to make a comeback? Well I mean since two thousand and four the newspaper sector shed forty seven percent of its jobs They're seventy two hundred remaining American newspapers about a thousand of which are called Ghost newspapers and that they don't really have staffs that do original reporting they're part of a larger organization. I will say that the New York Times and the Washington Post have done relatively well in the era of trump. Because it's sort of given them new relevance and they've seen increased Numbers but this is not looking like the world's best investment right now that is highly bell she msnbc anchor and economics correspondent Ali. Thanks always leisure sidling. America's got talent champions Shin. Lynn is the Canadian. Born American raised magician who stunned viewers on I the US. America's got talent show than the international competition where his sleight of hand beat out fifty other winners from around the world including singer. Susan Boyle it was a windfall. He took the million dollar prize. Validation magic is cool and a springboard to the stint. He starts today two month run at the Mirage in Las Vegas. The twenty nine year old son of Singapore born parents was a budding classical pianist in Massachusetts. He still incorporates. A PIANO INTO HIS DRAMATIC ACT. I was nineteen when I first developed CARPAL TUNNEL. And both of my wrists. He turned to his hobby. Magic the kind were playing cards appear and disappear and before I knew it had ignited and cards burst into flames. Limb Wowed Penn and teller stunned Ellen DeGeneres. We'll have incredible video that here now dot Org. Watch as we sit down with Shin Lim. How did it start? How did you get into cards? Sixteen years old. I just kind of open on the computer. And there's just a plethora of magic tutorials and we know that you were also playing piano at the time. Was there something that cross referenced totally. I think what really kind of excited me about sleight of hand or you know. Close Up Card Magic. Was ill so much like the piano because the piano is very raw and it's all about technique and it's all about skill and that's what magic about you know it's so different from stage illusions like easing David Copperfield. Stuff coming out of hats. Yeah or like cutting girl and ask stuff like that for me. I'm more of a pure sleight of hand so like color changing of a card or or changing the value of a card making vanish from my hand. And I found it fascinating. There is sort of a few to it. It feels. It's there's something around your hands. Your hands are lovely and I think we almost meant to look at your hands. Sometimes like a distraction. It's it's close. Magic race was looking really really closely. And so we're actually performing on stage. We have a high Def camera. That's really really zoomed in on the hands and so it's almost hypnotic. Sometimes it's like a Bali of just the hands and the cards almost like a ballerina when they're doing their routine and there's times almost like a finger almost seems to point me away my. I will follow the finger and then I realize darn I looked. Yeah well that's the misdirection court but it's also usually performed to music and so I kind of have it always flow according to the music so I guess it's my way of still playing the piano indirectly. Yeah Yeah Penn and teller saw you on Youtube and said wait a second. Can this guy do something that that tricks us and you did? What did you do enact? I called the Dream Act. It's actually my very first. I've ever created and it was also like one of the first acts that I did it all to music. You know for for especially close up magic non really ever did it silently. Everyone's always talking making jokes. That's part of the distraction big-time misdirection and also to tell a story. And if you don't talk then you can't do any of those early. That's what they told told everyone when they're teaching class and so for me to had not talked been silent and then just do it. All to music was very different. Some say it was pretty controversial. I thought that there was a whole set of things that have been handed down over years. Yeah it's interesting. How how magicians learn. And you're right. It is handed down from generation to generation in this kind of mysterious and kind of unique way. They are techniques but they're also secrets to right now. They're being handed down by Youtube. That's how the Hans feel about that because you've mentioned that one of your idols was David Blaine and a dear friend of some of us who recently passed away with another idol of many Ricky Jay's really looked up to as you know the Ricky Jay was adamant no revealing any secrets. Sure I mean for me. I have more younger outlook on it for me. I'm fine I don't really care. I think information should be free. You happy to share it. Oh totally because I mean that's kind of the only way magic can grow. Okay so so. How did you put your card inside your shirt when you were doing magic with Ellen and what had been on the car suddenly it's imprinted on your chest and there's nothing on the card. You can probably find out how to do that on Youtube really you. Can you can but the thing you know so the thing is even though you figure out how to do it on. Youtube they'll teach it. I'm sure there's so many tutorials out there but it's you won't be able to performance or at least not right away it's tough it's not easy and so. I think that's why I'm not worried because it's hard you can know how it works but you may not be able to stage magic illusions and stuff like that one. I think probably should be kept a secret because once you know how that stuff works you can do to. It's it's pretty easy because you just need money to buy the problem. Yeah with sleight of hand it's different. It's like the piano so like I'm sure. There's a tutorial on Youtube teaching how to play Moonlight Sonata Movement. Number Three by Beethoven right but It's also really hard to before we talked about your idols. Why was David Blaine? Your idol ricky. John David Blaine was actually the. Og original idle for me. I he he. He was doing a lot of close up street. Magic on Youtube can be a quarter now. People change the consistency of metal. What what what. He was like my source for learning cartridge. So you would have like the David Blaine tricks in underneath. It will be like how to David. Blaine do all these tricks and I would click on. Kinda learn how he did it but not just that David. Blaine was also kind of the first magician. That made it cool. You know because Back then magic was it still is kind of cheesy. But he made it cool. And so that's why you say it's cheesy. I don't know that's just what everyone said at the time. I mean it's how they it's their take on magic like Ricky Jay. He's super well-spoken very mysterious. The way each magician tells a story with magic. 'cause FOR PIANO. I saw a lot of PIANOSA and the way they play the piano Didn't see that same type of character trait as magic when they're trying to just make it so unique to them. Do you feel. We're talking about them. You them now. I don't know maybe no ask her. I'm still the same guy that goes on youtube and admires other Michigan. I still do that right now. Casey Casey come on in here. Your your bride closely followed your wedding and Hawaii. Casey Thomas on national and International Television people have squealed out. Oh my God the sexiest magician alive. His hair is a mess. He's got glasses on. He looks kind of like a math whiz. He seems to be in a completely different person on stage he is. There's like two different characters. I guess he has like a stage character where he's that like sixty and mysterious magician and then he gets off stage and he's just an any loves magic and he loves watching movies and music so yeah. It's very different. How have your lives changed now? Masking Yutian Limb. Not just winning. America's got talent but winning the international competition all fifty past winners. I don't know how I one I really don't. Because Darcy Lens pretty amazing and Susan Susan Boil. Why do you think you want? I think a lot of winners were Were were singers right in the past seasons so it was just magic different. Do you think it's gotten a new hip nece. I don't know maybe magic's just kind of changed its direction so a lot of it used to be you know the illusion with Copperfield. Copperfield really changed the game when it came to illusions but it's now focused more close up because of television YouTube Everything yeah because we used to think well maybe there was a trap door or maybe the now. We're seeing it right on the candidates and their excuse any okay. Can you share? Maybe like how did you get? You folded up a card and put it in a young woman's mouth and then you fold it up another one. Put it in your mouth. She's not working with you and then her cards in your mouth in your at her mouth. How did you do a some good old sleight of hand while I'll give you this hint? The tricks done already before. Put the car in her mouth. As much as I'll give I made it I kind of constructor my magic so even though you are looking at the secret you still can't see the secret so good luck trying to find sidland. Thank you so much. Thank you so magician Chin limb. We spoke at our cousins station W. G. B. H. Boston. He's currently in a run of the Mirage in Las Vegas be prepared to be. There is a draft. Executive Order reportedly being circulated inside the White House titled Making Federal Buildings. Beautiful again that would require most new federal buildings to be classical in style emulating the architecture of Ancient Greece and Rome. This order would rewrite principles for federal architecture that had been in place since the early nineteen sixties and it has been roundly condemned by people who care about architecture and design including our next guest Blair Cayman who's the Pulitzer Prize winning architecture critic at the Chicago Tribune Blair welcome back to here and now thank you. German could to be with you. So why do you think that this draft executive order is such a bad idea? I think it's a bad idea because it is profoundly undemocratic in that it would impose classical and traditional architecture on communities that are now free to choose the style of buildings that suits them best. Where does it come from? Who came up with this draft executive order? This is being spearheaded by a small nonprofit group out of Washington. Dc call the National Civic Art Society and they are dedicated to the proposition that all modernist architecture is created poorly and that the the public hates it. They are dedicated to restoring America to a classical architectural tradition and they obviously have some allies in the trump White House because they were able to at least get this draft executive order under consideration. What about in the architecture community more? Broadly do they have support? Are there a lot of people out there who say we should only be building classical architecture? Buildings may not a lot of support. The American Institute of Architects came out against this the national trust for historic preservation came out against it as did other groups including the society of architectural historians. Here in Chicago. They say that They remain convinced. That the dictation of style any style is not the path excellence in civic architecture. Well in fact the principles that are already in place for a federal buildings which were drawn up during the Kennedy Administration. By the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan. He wrote The development of an official style must be avoided and that design must flow from the architectural profession to the government and not vice versa. Exactly and that's really a reflection of the Cold War era. The notion was that a America. Unlike totalitarian regimes that dictated an official style would allow different styles of architecture that were suitable for different regions of the country so the principals have been very effective in terms of guiding loosely. How Federal Architecture should be designed when you think about the federal buildings that have been built since the sixties one stands out to you what what are some examples of different kinds of architecture that you think is a good thing that a policy like the draft executive order was not in place in the last many decades? Well the one that I'm most familiar with is right here in Chicago and that's the Chicago Federal Center designed by Mies van der Rohe one of the great architects of the twentieth century. It is not a fake Roman temple. It consists of a high-rise courts building a high-rise office building in a low rise post office and they pin wheel around a beautiful Urban Plaza That is decorated by a Red Flamingo. Sculpture by Alexander. Calder this ensemble in its black tie. Elegance is kind of like a clearing in the urban forest In other words a classical building a dome building would sit in the middle of An Urban Block. In contrast the federal center here creates an opening for open space and farmer's markets and other civic activities in the middle of that block the draft executive order essentially a mix it really difficult to build anything outside of a classical or traditional style. In addition a building like that resembled say the National Museum of African American history and culture in Washington which is based on African architectural. Presidents would not be allowed so what we're talking about here is really an attack on architectural and cultural diversity. Now Jeremy I wanna be clear that I am not opposed to classical buildings. No style has a monopoly on quality. The point is the imposition of the classical style and the restriction of choice. That's the key. That's the step toward authoritarianism. That is truly troubling about this proposal. Step toward authoritarianism. You think Just from from the architecture of our federal buildings because taxpayers pay for these. And it's their money it's their community they should be free to Be Able to choose. The country is more diverse culturally demographically architecturally and our building should really reflect that they should not be decided by bureaucrats or the stroke of a pen From the occupant of the White House that is Blair came in the Pulitzer Prize winning architecture critic at the Chicago Tribune Blair always great to talk to you. Thank you talk with you. Jeremy Thank you. You're in as a production of NPR and WBZ in association with the BBC World Service. I'm Jeremy Hobson unraveling is here now. Two years ago Max. Sch ACTORS. Fourteen year old son. Alex was killed in the Parkland school shooting. We Miss Him. And we love 'em and I would give everything up for for a second just to have one more minute with my little boy. Schachter now runs a foundation committed to school safety. We'll talk with him next time on here now.
Trade Deadline Special
"Baseball tonight the PODCAST. This is the trade deadline special July thirty first two thousand nineteen gene. It's about five twenty three about an hour and a half since the end of the trade deadline and I'm still trying to catch my breath and buster only choice farkas here producing and Dave Hey Sean field is with me in studio. Hi Dave good afternoon. Buster and Sarah Lang's with us on the phone. How You Doing Sarah Foster thanks for grabbed me sure I gotta tell you? My head is spinning like it's just <hes> you know I think it was Bob Nightingale our friend from U._S._C. Day who tweeted out right at the trade trade deadline. It's the dullest trade deadline ever and then he tweeted out five minutes later well that change in hurry brought back that line for Anchorman right that escalated Nouri sorry 'cause after the trade deadline passed four o'clock then we start to hear about the cubs getting Castalanos the the astros getting Aaron Sanchez Jobe Jeanie of course the headliner Zach Cranky going to the Astros and guys I texted a member of the Astros who I know and I basically said holy bleep and and he goes back holy bleep is right at the end of the day when we talk about winners and losers. I think it's pretty easy the Houston Astros Dave Yeah Yeah no doubt it. It's so fun I was up in newsroom with our baseball editors and they were writing their headlines Ace's don't get traded and then Yeah Boom Zach cranky the astros now with Ver- Lander Colin Cranky three of arguably the top eight pitchers in baseball yeah and they also get earlier in the day they get Martine Maldonado Maldonado catcher who they wanted to signed her in the off season but he was too expensive he signed with Kansas City and meanders his way through the cubs onto the astros. I mentioned they also get Aaron Sanchez. WHO's a perfect science experiment for the great pitching lab that is the Houston Astros and jobe genie to help out their bullpen Sarah? What did you think yeah I mean I thought they were already on their way to potentially winning this? Even before we saw the breaking news you know I saw that Aaron Sanchez named Cross a few minutes before and he struck Tuck me immediately as the kind of guy that they can help fix whatever you want to say whatever they did for Garrett Cole who was already a great pitcher and maize him so much better I think Aaron Sanchez is a very similar kind of guy in their numbers will help put him on another level and then they got Zakrzewski they have two of the most experienced pitchers in the majors right now now in just in Berlin Cranky and to me that's going to pay dividends for them in the postseason and almost everyone on this team is so experienced now that it's just so hard to see them doing anything anything other than marching to that world series right exactly Sarah. I'll start with you on this very specifically about grinky. What do you think the Astros are getting in him? At this stage in his career he just goes out there and puts out such a great effort every single day. You know I think when he first went to Arizona there were some concerns was he overpaid was he no longer that cranky the way he was his first year in Arizona was not great and that was on the heels of that one point six E._R._A.. Season where he somehow didn't win the CY young a young he goes out. He's a four thirty seven E._R._A.. In Two Thousand Sixteen and there were definitely concerns but since then he's just been so consistent and it's been on a whole other level this year and he he has that curve which is so much fun to watch and I'm just imagining him marching into that clubhouse and I know he's not a chatty guy but I feel like we're gonNA see these astros pitchers pitchers with these crazy pitches by the end of the month or next month plus. These guys are going to feed off each other. Don't you think cluster. I mean grank inky. I'm with you Sarah. Maybe one of the most enjoyable pitchers to watch because he doesn't thrive off a ninety eight mile an hour fastball like so many guys today just changes speeds hits spots hits coroner's throws in that defense pitch he so good I mean he's thirty thirty five now and basically as good as ever. He's healthy you know if you get to the world series you get help you at the plate if you you know when he bats just what a I've actually said this earlier he's one of the best athletes oh he's a good hitter at thirty five. He was shortstop of course he came through and <hes> there was some debate whether or not he would have been better at that than it pitching and and look jeff flu now did a Luneau the the answers general manager did a great job but you can't make a deal like this without getting Jim Crane support again in two thousand seventeen. He stepped up in ports. The verlinden Orlando deal across the line on the thirty first of August and given that grank he was owed something in the range of eighty to eighty five million dollars left on his contract. I I have not seen the final details on how that split split up but I mean Jim Crane has to be the one to say yes. I'm willing to trade the prospects packs into deal the money so you give it typically up to him as well and he kept his top to prospects and Kyle Tucker Enforce Whitley I know Whitley's had a lost season is in the area over ten but you know still to premium prospects. He kept those two guys and yeah the diamondbacks get four interesting players in return and could be a great deal for them in the long run but just what a deal for Houston two thousand seventeen with a very lander and now this deal Jeff Liu now I mean pain. He took his G._M.'s behind the woodshed yeah and Wade Miley who's had a terrific year for them is now. They're number four started. He might be the number one story if he was on the Yankees. We'll get to them in a second. Betray was going to tell you I asked you earlier in the podcast. We taped on Wednesday morning you know should we do a power ten and you're like yeah. We have to do one in the morning. I think the power ten is chain. Now you've got the dodgers it number one and we get the Astros at one a. and then we have the rest of the team starting at number five taking back these one as things. This is not how we do it. It's one and two but the Astros I really like what they did today. Oh one hundred percents go ahead of our power ranks. You should have one in one zero with the rest of the team. Now works breaking the rule is making up your own rules again. This is not allowed. I A hundred percent is a lot it's my podcast and you're at the end of the year and you're probably tired so just be quiet back there. I'll tell me Michael there you go <hes> so the Astros the winners the day and I thought to myself someone who worked in newspapers for a lot of years that my God is the second-guessers delight moving forward with two of the a powerhouse teams with the New York Yankees and I've been saying for months they need a starting pitcher. They gotta get a starting pitcher and then last week they get beat up by the rockies and then the twins aliens and then the red sox which reinforces yes they need a starting pitcher and they get to the deadline and they didn't get a starting pitcher because I know that the Yankees and I talked to folks there on Tuesday evening. They're skeptical about whether or not they would add a starting pitcher and they didn't get that guy and on the other hand. You have the dodgers who we talked doll summer. They gotta get a reliever. They gotta get a seventh and eighth inning guy. They got the they have to get a guy like a flip a Vasquez or brad hand or somebody like that and I know I know they've had very narrow focus in recent weeks and trying to get that guy but we got to the deadline and they didn't and look part of the reason why the Yankees dodgers are where they are is because the general managers have been really disciplined and to give credit to Brian Cashman and Andrew Friedman but my God if the Yankees he's rotation gets beats up in October in the playoffs and they get knocked out or if the dodgers lose in the seventh or eighth inning of a game and they wind up losing that series Andrew Friedman Brian Brian Cashman. You're going to have a bunch of idiots like me coming at them with all that narrative about how they didn't get it On twitter here on deadline day we can see the reaction from Yankee fans and dodgers fans and they are not happy today. You know it's it's tough being a fan of a big market team right when your team you expect them to make all the necessary moves that look that Yankee Rotation Sarah. I know you know this has been in a freefall. All since April April been worse every month since then terrible in July. Look I get it Tanaka Paxton. You know if if you get severino bag you might still have a good rotation in the playoffs and you have a deep bullpen but it just feels like they needed at others. Go ahead Sir Yeah and and I mean we were talking for our son in baseball broadcast this week in Boston. We looked at the top three starting pitchers on a bunch of teams that you would anticipate being in the playoffs often we compared the Yankees and the Astros and the Indians and the dodgers and the nationals I believe and the Astros were already far and away by the best and the Yankees were far and away the worst and that was before a couple more of these starting pitcher issues even J. happ pitched like okay yesterday but not great he gave up three runs but he gave up runs in the first inning and you know it just doesn't feel like they're in that echelon of competing on the pitching side and I I have to say Sam surprised I mean if you just look at recent history and obviously there was a change in you know I mean it's still Brian Cashman but certainly a change in ownership now going back a while ago for the Yankees accused with George Steinbrenner everything but you just expect them to make the move you know we've just gotten to the point where they're one of those teams and I would put the dodgers in the same boat where the past few years when they're in this kind of situation we just expect that to happen and you know I mean getting James Paxton this off season. You know everyone thought they were gonNA sign. Patrick Corbin they don't don't sign him but they go out and they get Paxton and Lo and behold they've made the move we anticipated and with the fact that there's no more moves after today that are going to pay pay off for the postseason are put anyone on the postseason roster. I was very surprised and I think there's going to be a lot a lot of second guessing as you said buster laude and I kind of liked it the nobody can change right. These are the teams <hes> you might be able to get a waiver claim or something like that but <hes> it's not going to be like it wasn't a pass in terms of getting big moves the Astros get the headlines I think people and we talked on Wednesday mornings podcast about the Indians and I call ravitch and I talked about how much we liked that deal for the Indians and what they added but in the second tier of winners no-doubt for me the Atlanta Braves in Washington nationals they closed the gap in my eyes guys between themselves in clearly clearly the class of National League Los Angeles Days Yeah. I think what the brave's did a little more than the National Shane Greenies at a very good year one point one eight e._R._A.. Maybe not that good these giving up six unearned runs which kinda hides you know his real overall effectiveness but for a bullpen their bullpens really they struggled in July. He's I don't know if he's going to be there closer or setup guide Luke Jackson. We'll see how that plays out Chris. Martin actually has the best strikeout-to-walk ratio true of any pitcher in baseball this year of at least third innings so too good arms the nationals little Mark Melanson who has absolutely throwing great yeah. I got a text from someone in the giants organization saying they're getting him right at the right time. I think what is last eight and two thirds innings runs allowed one walk nine strikeouts yeah in you know the national is a little more of a hodgepodge what trio that they pick. Daniel Hudson and <hes> it's better but the bottom line is at least say they made moves when I was in the nationals clubhouse a couple of weeks ago mad players. They're saying yeah. We'll we'll pick up a couple of guys and Mike Rizzo to his credit was able to do that. What do you thank sir. Yeah I mean the thing that was baseball is so poetic to me. Always I feel like I say that a lot and wall. These reports were coming in of these moves at the braves. were making their bullpen was blowing a game against the now like that's what was going on. They gave up runs in the ninth. Nationals tied it then then the Astros Astros go. I'm sorry not the answer is I'm sorry the braves go Josh Donaldson and hits a home run in the tenth inning off of Sean doolittle so you kind of get both teams bullpen issues news crystallized in one honestly like inning span total innings span. Maybe two innings and I think that I definitely like what the brave's did a little bit more. I think that they got the guys who are having better. Seasons are having more prominent seasons and probably fit a little bit more what what they're trying to do to your point about Shane Green Dave. He actually was the three seventy fifth so <hes> you know you wouldn't necessarily pinpoint the Tigers have had such a strong defense to have helped him out there so so it's probably a couple of different things up and whatever else but you know that's obviously something to keep an eye on you. Envision the first time he gives up a run. The world will end on twitter or something like that but I think they set themselves up really well and I just starting pitching has been so good and hopefully they can find some ways to give some of the young guys arrest grassed. Obviously freed was hurt for a little bit which sort of helped give him a rest and you. WanNa make sure that Sarah's not getting tired because they're gonNA want him on October Fifteenth and ideally early October twenty ninth but I really like what they did and I think the nationals did enough to keep themselves relevant in there. I think that you know I at this point. It feels feels like they're more in the wild card position but they definitely did something to keep themselves. They're not trotting out those same guys with that astronomical Balkany era yeah. It'll be interesting to see which team in the National League is the greatest threat to the dodgers. I felt coming. Today was probably the nationals. They helped their bullpen. I think the braves is made up some ground. I gotta say that generally speaking over the course of the trade deadline action I I mean there's no question the cubs front office tried yet. They signed Craig Kimbrel. They trade for Castalanos. They trade for Tony Kemp. They add Derek Holland. They add Dave Phelps. When we heard from Theo Epstein during the course of the wintertime they didn't have a a ton of payroll flexibility but they made moves and they've been frustrated because they feel like that. There have been so inconsistent so to me. It's kind of on the players now Sarah era yeah. I think so I mean I. We've talked so many times about the cubs about how we keep expecting them to run away with this. This division and I mean right now. They're not even in first right. They're a game behind the cardinals but the cardinal's didn't do anything they made one trade that was a player out for the year for another player out for the year. Tony Guardian Jet Jerko so that obviously has no real net impact on this year but the cubs are sitting here with a plus seventy run differential in second place behind the cardinals who have built something up there at plus twenty any obviously I think run differential is a pretty good reflection on what ends up happening at least in terms of making the postseason but I think that the cubs just did enough enough to sort of spice it up. Get some different guys in that lineup. Get some different people in that bullpen that has definitely struggled and I feel like maybe now they can run on away with it. I I it's going to be really interesting to see if the cardinals can continue to subsist with this exact same roster and I'm just I'm just not sure if that's the case yet the thing with the cubs jobs that put the front office kind of tough position. They don't really have any bad players so you're only all they could really do is incremental upgrades. The rotations -tations been good. It's been healthy yeah. The bullpen has not been clutch in fact I don't want to I'm GonNa Steal this because one of our writers is working on this piece so I apologized Aja to Jesse Rogers but the cubs they lead the majors and I hope I get this stat right in when the first reliever enters the game with a win probability of seventy five percent or higher they've lost eight Games which is the most of any team in the major so the pen has definitely not. Not Been Clutch so they start winning some those games they start playing up to their run differential yeah. I I think the front office is made. The moves and I'm sure the message you're going to go down to the folks in the clubhouse. Okay we did our work now. You guys need to step up an interesting creature. Inhabits the flat arid plains many an automobile dashboard the bobblehead it's most agreeable and will not along to anything despite having no brain function but when the bottle of had his how gyco not only saves people money but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone not even more vigorously because he knows you should switch because yes switching to. GEICO is a no brainer. Glad easy can get whiplash. I think the strangest deadline of the day for me without a doubt the San Francisco giants France where you come in to the whole trade period and you're wondering okay are they going to go all in or all out and saying all in I mean you're keeping Madison Bumgarner and you keep in the bullpen together and all these tradable relief pieces and maybe you get a couple of modest upgrades position players and maybe at the back end of the rotation or you just just become sellers and it's like draining bathtub. You pull bumgarner out you deal him. You deal a bunch of relievers. You trade it in for value. They really tried to thread read the needle and I don't know if wild about what they did. They wind up keeping Bumgarner for the rest of the year so you can say to your clubhouse in your future hall of Famer a manager. Hey we kept mad bum the guy everybody loves but you traded their hottest reliever in milan-san and you traded dyson and a couple other relievers you did it gets scooter. Jeanette and on the on the base on the trade deadline special we did with Mark Teixeira basically gave voice to what I was thinking as I was watching watching that if you're in the giants clubhouse and you're a player and you've been playing great and you're hoping the front office believes in you what what Farhan Zaidi just did was like yeah. I don't know if I really do believe in you guys day which was appropriate. I guess that's kind of what we expected. I I'm just speculating here. You know L.. I expected to go all in or just sell you know. I'm sure you know now. He doesn't have the emotional tie to bumgarner since it's his first year championships the whole thing intellectually. I'm sure he probably wanted to trade everybody because this is the oldest lineup in the National League. Yeah they've had this unbelievable hot run. What six six point two percent chance still only to make the playoffs? It's not likely but I know you've said this buster. I agree you owe it to the players. They've put themselves. I was in a position to at least have a shot so give it a shot and I'm with you. Keep everybody. None of these trades are likely to you know what more ratio Autobahn I like. I'm he's probably a utility infielder. He's not going to turn around the future of the San Francisco giants so keep everybody and see what happens. Yeah I was surprised. How about you sir yeah I I was watching all of this play out and just trying to figure out what the what the plan was and you know it's just interesting to see the a-team kind of make a couple moves on either side of the ball right like make a couple moves of overselling but also a couple of moves of nowhere buying and it just really feels like that seventeen and thirty stretch just like through the entire plan you know into into the trash can right four hundred eighty was he was the clubhouse guy provided right in the meal like it's okay dinner served guys put down a bunch of celery? We give give him some down in the off season and see what he really wanted to go. I interrupted Sir. Go ahead no. I I agree with you. I'd love to know but I will say that you know I think that the the little if you really look at these moves they're pretty pretty much. What we I would expect from him right like he got the braves to pay all the money and that milan-san deal which I don't think anyone would have expected and yes milan-san hasn't been there hottest reliever of as you said but overall for the Susan he has not been great and I don't think anyone evaluating the giants would have thought they would be able to trade him contract and even for drew Pomeranz who has been really good as early ver- for four games but has been really good as a reliever but was really bad as the starter this year when he got to bond who is not a top prospect at this point or anything but certainly not cash considerations certainly not nothing so I would say that you know hopefully that giants fan base can at least take a step back here. They're probably in a good mood because bumgarner there wasn't traded and they can say you know what we really do need to sit back and see what the offseason brings from Farhadi because if that is a little window into what he's going to be doing doing I think he's going to make some really good moves for this team down over the next however many years which is whatever unexpected when they came to that deal with him. I got a question for you. Are you surprised that no team just gave some unbelievable offer from for Bumgarner that they couldn't refuse knowing I know two thousand fourteen thirteen five years ago but knowing his postseason history or are the new wave G._M.'s just to they won't do this annotate rentals yeah. They don't WanNa overpay for the rentals. There's no question about it and I'm sure that's the Yankees. I'm sure had that opportunity to talk about it. Other teams have the opportunity to talk about it but you know for two months is perhaps the days when Zack Wheeler is being traded for Carlos Beltran. Remember at one point that those days are gone. <hes> Troy stayed up past his bedtime. This it's five forty five. He wants to jump in here with some bleacher tweet. Today wanted to take the first one yeah. We got a quick tweet here from Brian Zero. Interesting question who says another not exciting trade deadline has passed. What do you think the M._l._B. needs to do to have more trades actually really happened at the deadline. I think he probably sent that lead you tweet and at the same time. Bob Nightingale sent out his tweets. I I actually thought it was okay Dave Yeah. I think that's fine fact act. I don't have the list in front of me but I looked at earlier. All the trades made on July thirty first last few years to six in two thousand and sixteen. They're only three significant trades. The next year therefore there are a lot more last year so I think overall yeah. I know Bumgarner didn't go. We learned in go but I think overall pretty good traded line day all right next question. Are you got this one all right. This one comes from Chris at Burgh fans years or four with the nationals bolstering their bullpen. Does this help them. MM separate themselves in the wild card race invite for the title. I you know I was saying before. I still think that the braves win this division but I do think it helps them. Separate separate themselves from the phillies. I think that there's a clear difference to me between those teams at this point the Philly's got corey dickerson. They did a couple of things but to me. The nationals had more promise entering the year and I think that it gives them a much. Better shot now listers or hurt. I don't know maybe maybe I need to back that up up but assuming that Scherzer's injury doesn't continue to linger which of course is a big concern. I think they at least separate themselves within the wild card race. Final tweet comes from Terry Haden at Hannah. This is for you buster. I'm curious. How does a three team trade go down yeah and the way that that it happens. I think is that <hes> the teams might agree on some elements two teams would agree on some elements of it but one team would say you know what you don't really have that guy. We're looking looking for an I don't know I haven't asked Chris Antonetti this question. My guess is is that they agreed generally that of the concept of Bauer going to the reds but the Indians probably said look. You don't don't have the young control outfielder that we're looking for since you're not gonNA trade as Nixon Zell. Why can you go and get a somebody and so then the phone call goes to the padres. And that's how fragile ray has comes into it. That's generally how it goes where one G._M.. Says the other G._M.. Hey can you go and find this type of guy. We're looking for and then and maybe the the reds called back and said we're talking to the padres and race available and it goes from there. Okay thank you for sending us to trade deadline questions. Use the Hashtag state which we do. We got about seven minutes to go and just a couple of quick ones Sarah because they're your favorite team. Can you believe that we got to the deadline and the mets turned out to be buyers because they sold nothing. They didn't trade syndergaard. They didn't Trae Zack Wheeler that in trade todd frazier. I guess they traded Jason Vargas yes but still the mets basically were buyers before the deadline. I don't get it Sarah. I don't get it and honestly even though people people were somewhat high on the mets entering this year. I don't think I even would have believed that if you told me that on March first hey we're going to get to the trade deadline. The mets are just GonNa get Marcus Stroman. Okay get rid of Jason Burs like I never I never would have believed that. I was pretty surprised I feel like they had some players that you know teams would've wanted. I think I even saw a rumor or about Luis avalon on twitter last night. I forget who it was saying. That teams are interested. I mean I don't understand necessarily not not doing those things and it's it's. It's just interesting. I mean now they're in this interesting situation with Zack Wheeler where I don't know that they're really even in the position where they would want to pay him the qualifying offer and if they if he does take it and if he doesn't then I'm sure they're not going to be in a position to really negotiate with what he's going to want. So that's an odd one one and I don't know I feel like they're just so many moves out there that can be made and one thing that we saw today is a lot of those kind of August I two thirty thirty first deals sort of happen today because they can't happen you know moving forward with the new way that it has this year like that Corey Dickerson trade to me seemed like a waiver kind of trade trade that we might see on August fifteenth and a previous year and is interesting with the mets didn't even attempt something like that. I mean one name that stuck out to me was John Ryan Murphy who is going going to the braves. I feel like you know he would probably be appreciably better for the mess right now. Then Wilson Ramos or Tomas Nido even if he were in a backup role you know maybe NATO's role and it was interesting to me that they didn't even come through on a on a move like that because if you are kind of claiming to go all in and then I would expect more on that side at the the very least so it's it's really an odd one to make one move and have it be like the big splash got this all going and then that's basically it. I would love to be the agent for Marcus Marcus Stroman right now because you talk about emotional leverage that he has on the mets during the wintertime. If you were to say you know what I'm looking for a contract and try to bully them into doing something because that deal was sort of the centerpiece of their whole summer kind of like Brodie van wagon in did last summer on behalf of Jacob degrom. He bullied the mets into an extension cave. I'm I'm GonNa give you four teams. You can take any one of them at some thoughts on one of the twins brewers phillies Arizona for the best day or whatever whatever ever thought of like what Arizona did actually I mean grey contract to get avalanche eighth. That's huge for that kind of organization. That doesn't can have a big payroll or big attendance. The weirdest rate of the day was the challenge prospect trade or what's that gallons mid in the majors now for Jazz Chisholm who entered the years Arizona's top prospect. He's having a terrible year in Aa very young but gallon. He's looked really good through. Seven starts dominated the miners plus. They got Mike leak that rotation. They kept Robbie Ray so I like we're there are sitting. Maybe for two thousand twenty I would agree. I agree with you Sarah. You WanNa take one of those. Three remaining tweens teams is like a game show you take the twins or you can take the brewers you can take the phillies. I'll take the twins you know I. I think that part of me wonders obviously I have no actual information about this but I wonder the twins approach changed at all with what the Indians did yesterday because I think heading into yesterday I think that the twins were seems like maybe they should be a little nervous with the Indians breathing down their back and the fact that they did get rid of Bauer and we don't know exactly exactly when Kluber is going to be back but they seem to be relying on that and maybe the twin sort of maintained an advantage a bit in the pitching. I mean not in terms of stars here I necessarily but in terms of what's going on on right now and give them a chance to maybe why did not gap a little bit before whenever it is that Kluber does come back because the only move that the twins made was getting Sam dyson right I mean unless I'm forgetting something or something that didn't happen today and they can definitely use a bull pin arm but they had a bunch of bullpen arms who they've fade or released within in the last three weeks or so who all already have major league jobs so it's not like they had a bad bullpen. I mean they had guys to spare so we've seen that offense as we've seen that high homerun teams don't really go on to win the world series none of the top ten in baseball history and home runs ever have but I don't know I just expected a little more from them and I'll take the phillies just mentioned it feels like that since Andrew mccutchen got hurt that that was like a crossroad and their season their offense has just not been the same maybe Corey Kori dickerson coming from the pirates will help to augment that group will just have to wait and see last one for both you guys <hes> Davey go first on this one now that we're here now now that the trade deadline happened the Cement July thirty first trade deadline no deals in August. You like it. Don't like it want to move it. I like it. I don't like when you can get a very lander like the astros did in two thousand seventeen and he plays one month for that team makes five starts and becomes the dominant figure of a postseason so at least now you got at least play two months with the team before that can happen so I like it. Sarah like it don't like it one a move. I absolutely love it. I just feel like anytime we add a ticking clock to something it gets so much better right like we saw that with the with the homerun Derby when the format change in two thousand fifteen obviously this is very different but my point is that when people people are looking back looking at a number looking at a date time whatever it is and that's it and that's final and you cannot do anything after that it just gets so much more gets to be so much more refund I think and I I know that people were I mean obviously as a four o'clock on the dot. Maybe a little concern that we didn't quite get the same kinds of moves but I honestly think that we did once as we saw everything else that happened and I also think that those those waiver deals are interesting and seeing how those play out earlier in the season when teams certain teams are less advocate than they would be a month later is going to be really interesting some of the things that we won't even really be able to evaluate for a while like the fact that the cubs got Tony Kemp. Obviously that was a bigger deal but that's the kind of guy who often gets acquired in August and he's the kind of guy you could see like stealing the crucial base in the world series right so it's cool to think that all this is happening in this time crunch to me. I would agree with both you. I love it because starting tomorrow. I'm GONNA get sleep. I don't WanNa talk especially especially you troy. I'm jealous exactly guys. Thanks for doing this. I know it's been a busy day my head spinning your guys head-spinning and I'll talk to you next sweet. Thank you thanks bye. Thank you so much and thanks for listening. Everybody have a great Thursday. That's what's the deal no no podcasts on Thursday because this is this <hes> podcast will stand for Thursday's podcasts and then you get to sleep all day tomorrow and go to Yoga Okay there you go you go double sessions and then on Friday. We'll be back back on board of the regular pod can't wait. Thanks for listening everybody. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing fantasy baseball don't forget to solution to the fantasy focus podcast checkout