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"balkan" Discussed on Revolutions
"The fear of looking weak the fear of letting down their allies absolutely saturated europe the dawn of nineteen fourteen next week. We will merge these foreign storylines with the domestic storylines back in russia. It was not just fears on the international front that worried czar nicholas and his ministers but also they had fears at home. They were living in this post. Nineteen o five world that involved things like newspapers and speeches and public opinion and gross things like that national opinion makers were getting very frustrated by the government's willingness to endure humiliation after humiliation on the global stage. Leaving for example the noble serves out to dry from the russo. Japanese war on this czarist regime had clearly proven itself to be an impediment to the true potential of russian national greatness. Foreign policy failures had become a stick for critics to beat the government with meanwhile down on the ground the window of social and labour peace was starting to give way to more militant action strikes protests and labor unrest. Were picking up again by nineteen twelve after a few years of dormancy liberal critics in the press upset over foreign policy debacles combining with angry working classes upset over wages and conditions were the revolutionary coalition of nineteen. O five and. They are starting to come back together. So when the july crisis comms in nineteen fourteen the czar was less concerned. That going to war might lead to revolution and far more concerned that if he did not go to there would be a revolution and in fact going to war would be the very thing that ended all revolutions forever but before we go today. Please remember to go. Preorder hero of two worlds Somebody on twitter noted that there were ten thousand eight hundred registered booksellers in the united states. And i think it would be very cool in great if the book was ordered from each and every one of them i should also mention that a few people took my threat to quit podcasting. If we didn't get to ten thousand preorders a bit too seriously. That was playfully tongue in cheek. Not actually going to quit podcasting if get ten thousand preorders which i thought would have been obvious but for some people. It wasn't my dry sense of humor does get me into trouble sometimes. The last time. I got a bunch of irate emails over something i said in the show was that time. Dead pan said that ancient aliens were the cause of the neolithic agricultural revolution. Which i also don't believe archaeologists. Were mad at me about that one but anyway preorder the book. And i'll see you next week. As our nicholas convinces himself that he's going to save his regime by going to war..
"balkan" Discussed on Revolutions
"Russia was still not ready to fight another war. their military experts predicted. They would not be ready until at least nine hundred seventeen though they certainly welcomed an aggressive slavic uprising the austrians meanwhile we're caught flat-footed couldn't mobilize quick enough to get troops into the field to defend their interests and by that i mean stop serbia from getting any bigger but even if they had been able to get into the war. It's not clear they would have since that would have surely brought in the russians whether they were ready for war or not. and this time crucially. The germans indicated to the austrians that there was no support in germany for a war in the balkans so if austria started fighting they would bite alone. This left austria mighty at their allies and germany. Who weren't supporting them as they tried to contain a grave an unstable threat on their border. Germany walked away. Well there that austria was miffed at them. And since germany's main interest was not being isolated and left to stand alone against france and russia. They resolved that in the future. They would be far more vocal about standing by austria. If for no other reason than to prove to austria that austria should stand beside germany at the resulting peace conference in london. In the spring of nineteen thirteen to redraw the map of the balkans yet again the bulgarians felt like they were about to be denied. They believed was rightfully theirs. They also happen to believe that they were bigger and stronger than the rest of the balkan league combined and declared war on their erstwhile allies in june nineteen thirteen to get a better deal at the conference table but this turned out to be a serious miscalculation the rest of the balkan league quickly defeated the bulgarians in this second balkan war and the serb armies advanced all the way to the adriatic sea and the kingdom of serbia with a port on. The adriatic was intolerable to the austrian..
"balkan" Discussed on Revolutions
"Crisis. The annexation of bosnia put russia in a very tight spot and co Way out on a limb that could not support him there. Long time clients the serbs howled in protest and demanded. Russia defend their interests against the austrians. But there is little the russians could do. They were in no position politically or militarily or financially to get drawn into a war against austria in the balkans and the military did start preliminary war mobilization but then germany stepped in and issued a blunt ultimatum to russia that they better accept the annexation or face war with austria and germany. Meanwhile alcee had created just enough scandalous evidence that he had agreed to sell out the serbs that he was more or less blackmailed into not protesting the annexation even though russia now received basically nothing in return so russia accepted the annexation of bosnia and made no further protests and rattled. Not there's there's are was personally furious at how everyone around him had behave especially because they now made russia look so duplicitous and week is false. Key was soon enough removed from his position as foreign minister and demoted to being a mere and bass eter again but critically. They made him ambassador to france where he spent every waking moment in paris promoting the russian and french alliance against the germanic central powers who had betrayed and humiliated him on a personal level in nineteen. Oh eight these things to help star wars the serbs were not content to sit back. And just let all this happen. Though and in response hardcore serb nationalists formed a new underground group called unification or death that basically grew organically from the same group who had staged the murderous coup in nineteen oh three casually referred to as the black hand their goal using any and all means necessary including violence in assassination to achieve the dream of greater serbia..
"balkan" Discussed on Revolutions
"Please their russian allies anti up the austrians in the balkans. The french were happy to provide loans to the government and munitions to their army now the austrian concern about serbian agitation in bosnia was never just about the serbs or just about bosnia. They never considered it in the narrow context of the fate of a few. small principalities. On the periphery of their empire. It was always discussed in the wider context of the fate of the whole hungarian empire. If the serbs succeeded in peeling off bosnia and forging regionally. Powerful kingdom of serbia. It would be the green light for every other subject nationality to do the same checks poles slovaks. They would all try to follow suit. The habsburg empire had only barely survived eighteen. Forty eight and then they had gone and lost their italian possessions. So checking serbia was. Never just about checking serbia. They were well on their way down the road to a domino theory where allowing serbia to get their way would collapse the entire empire in nineteen. Oh eight. Austria received what they to be an unexpected gift from the russians. Banks do some diplomatic freelancing by the new russian foreign minister alexander is foschi career. Diplomat is false ski had taken over the foreign office ride alongside newly appointed. Prime minister pyotr stolypin. Who was his political ally. They were part of a new team. That was supposed to get russia out of its deeply troubling and humiliating waters. That had recently swamped them. Thanks to the russo japanese war and the revolution of nineteen o five both leaping and his volsky knew that russia was a precarious place internationally their army and navy was in shambles. The reputation was in severe. Decline is volsky undertook reorienting. Russia towards britain who had for decades been on the opposite side of russia on the eastern question but in one thousand nine hundred seven britain and russia signed a convention that mutually settled some of their disputes in central asia and open the vague possibility that britain down the road might change their policies regarding the russian claim to the turkish straits in constantinople. At least that's what the russians hoped. In the meantime the convention of nineteen o. Seven brought britain france and russia into a very rough and general alignment is volsky however envisioned a quick advance down the turkish straits and he secretly approached austria about a deal if austria decided to officially annexed bosnia and herzegovina and thus crushed the serbian dream of national unification and greater. Serbia is foschi said the russians would not protest in exchange. Austria must support the russian claim to the turkish straits. Now this is a huge promise. is making the russian supporting the serbs had been policy for ages and really the only thing stopping the austrians from annexing. Bosnia and herzegovina was the possibility russian intervention. So what is ski is saying here is that he's willing to sell the serbs in exchange for the turkish straits the austrian foreign minister indicated that he would go along with this mostly because he believed austrian support for the russians wouldn't make a bit of difference because france and britain would never agree to giving the russians exclusive run of the turkish straits in a million years is vol ski though. He had time to line up support for his plan with the french. And the british. And then the austrians and russians would jointly announced the deal that they had secretly struck but then suddenly in october nineteen hundred eight without any warning at all. The austrian unilaterally announced the annexation of bosnia and herzegovina. This announcement shocked the rest of europe and double triple quadruple shocked. Alcee who believed the austrians had stabbed him in the back..
"balkan" Discussed on Revolutions
"Did not feel respected. Felt like the other powers considered slobs only good to be ruled by superior races. The congress of berlin may have settled things temporarily but it all but ensured things would not be settled permanently. All it did was moved the pieces on the board into the rough position that would create a succession of crises. Thirty years later that would lead directly to world war. One to add a wrinkle. To all of this all the slavic nationalities in the balkans were able to look to the incredibly recent examples of the unification of germany and italy to follow as their model. These were events. They did not read in history books. These were events they read in the newspaper and in both of those cases unification came when a strong military power did the unifying in germany. That role was played obviously by prussia and in italy remember. It was played by the kingdom of piedmont sardinia. But the question was who is going to play the role of prussia and piedmont in the balkans and just over simplify things a bit here. It's either going to be serbia or bulgaria and both fancy themselves for the job after their independence was recognised at the congress of berlin. Serbia themselves to the dignity of being called the kingdom of serbia in eighteen eighty to a few years later bulgaria annexed their southern compatriots made up second principality that they had been placed in by the congress of berlin specifically to prevent the unification of the bulgarians. This led to a little war between serbia and bulgaria in eighteen. Eighty five which bulgaria one and for the moment really started themselves as the pressure of the balkans but events in serbia will wind up playing a much bigger role in our story. So we're gonna stick with them after independence. They were ruled by a dynasty. That was very friendly with the habsburgs but nationalistic elements among the serbian political elite and in the officer corps of the army believed that leaving their dream of greater serbia. That is uniting. All the serbs together into a single polity meant including the large contingent of serbs living in bosnia and herzegovina which remember was still provinces of the turks but defacto provinces of the austrians. It's good and confusing times in the balkans all the time now. The kingdom of serbia seizing. Bosnia and herzegovina is obviously going to mean breaking it away from the habsburgs which almost certainly required help from the russians to accomplish in one thousand nine hundred. Three a powerful.
"balkan" Discussed on Revolutions
"New thing called italy and bohemians hashim's and rhinelanders join together in a new thing called germany for such pan slavic idealists. The debate came down to whether or not they would be unified under the greatest slavic power of them all russia or whether they would merely look to the russians as the great power who would help them achieve their dreams in the mid eighteen seventies. All of this came together in a succession of simultaneous explosions. We call the eastern crisis smelling autumn and blood in the water most of the christian communities under ottoman rule but is the serbs and the bulgarians. Romanians rose up separately and simultaneously. Over the course of eighteen. Seventy five in eighteen. Seventy six eighteen seventy seven. These uprisings the wobbly ottomans as well off balance and the russians happily took advantage entering the war on behalf of the balkan insurrectionist in eighteen seventy seven the russian army wound up marching practically to the gates of constantinople before the suddenly alarm british sent to navy down to fly the colors and warned the russians not to get any crazy ideas in their head about conquering constantinople. The subsequent congress of berlin in eighteen seventy eight drew up treaties ending all of these conflicts but much to the frustration of the russians and the various balkan groups the other great powers in europe seem primarily interested in limiting russian gains and short-circuiting any hope that pan-slavic unification was a possibility instead of allowing a unified and independent slavic state to emerge the other powers. Well balkanized the balkans. Bulgarians were divided into two separate principalities and though defacto independent would still be considered technically ottoman possessions. The principalities of serbia and montenegro and romania were recognized as independent states. No longer the subjects of any great power but they were kept as small as possible and abutting the austro-hungarian empire they were clearly meant to be client satellites of the habsburgs. Finally the provinces of bosnia and herzegovina to the northwest of serbia would still be considered the sovereign possessions of the autumn and but under a military and administrative occupation by the austrians which would be recognized under international law. If all that didn't make a whole lot of sense. Don't worry it didn't make a whole lot of sense to anybody. The upshot of the congress of berlin was wary satisfaction from the other european powers. That maybe this new map would hold the region together but this was matched by intense dissatisfaction among the various balkan groups and the russians who all felt that they had been kind of screwed over and denied their rightful spoils of victory. Why was unification and national dignity. Cool for germans and italians but not for us. The russians wondered why the british and french ray will to spread their tentacles across the whole world but if russia decided to advance even a little bit it was somehow the end of the world it led to increase resentment among the slavs who thought that the other nationalities of europe did not really see them as possessing equal dignity or stature..
"balkan" Discussed on Revolutions
"Ten point fifty three the balkans. last time. We walked through everything we already knew about the deep background of world. War one from stuff. We've already talked about in the podcast this week. We are going to combine that old information with a bunch of new information regarding the infamously fractious and complicated balkan peninsula and why crisis there could possibly trigger a great power war that would consume the entire world. The big picture setting for all of this is the eastern question and the eastern question is what is going to happen now that the ottoman empire is clearly in collapse. Imperial power games are very zero sum. If one empire recedes another empire advances. That's how it works. By the late. Nineteenth century britain france austria hungary germany and russia all believed that they could take advantage of the situation for the russians advancing. It automated. Expense was a centuries old game since the time of peter. The great the russians had steadily advanced south fighting nearly a dozen different wars with the turks in the process. Their grand overarching dream was to one day. Maybe control the entire black sea basin and sees the dardanelles the sea of marmara and the bosphorus what were collectively called the turkish straits so that they would have direct access to the mediterranean this dream of course included expelling the turks from constantinople. There were many things fuelling. This grand ambition militarily it would give russian fleets direct access from the black sea out into the mediterranean and defend against any enemy power from ever getting in economically. They would be tapping the entire mediterranean basin for trade commerce in new markets. An ideologically the russians ours had always considered themselves the premier defenders of orthodox christianity and ending five hundred years of muslim occupation and returning constantinople to its rightful or docs would be the work of god. All of that combined. Then fed into an emotional yearning for that nebulous defined concept we call prestige. If the russians controlled constant nopal it would be very prestigious by the late nineteenth century. Russia was tantalizingly close to realizing this dream. They had extended their empire deep into the black sea basin enveloping the east coast and controlling principalities at the mouth of the danube on the west coast which meant that the russian empire now directly abutted the balkans projecting an overarching hegemonic authority over the balkan peninsula in essence replacing the ottoman presence. There would be essential to protecting the western flanks. When russia made their final thrust south and claimed constantinople beyond territorial economic and political motivations though russia wielding power and influence in the balkans fit squarely in with the longstanding ideological belief that the czars were the defenders and patrons of all orthodox christians everywhere many of the ethnic groups in the balkans were orthodox christians. Who were seen by the russians as oppressed cousins who needed to be liberated from the cruel yoke of muslim despotism. Russia's longstanding support for orthodox communities living under muslim rule merged with the new strain of nationalism that had grown up in the nineteenth century especially during and after the revolutions of eighteen. Forty eight serbs. Croats bulgarians romanians and bainian all develop their own dreams of national unification and self determination independence even before eighteen forty eight for example both the serbs and the bulgarians had both achieved. Something like autonomous home rule. But still inside the ottoman empire. These were a result of nationalistic revolutionary. Uprisings against the turks and as we talked about a bit during the revolutions of eighteen forty eight. These individual national aspirations merged with a larger pants slavic movement to unify all slavic peoples into a single nation by the eighteen seventies. They had direct models to look to for inspiration as florentines venetians and romans had all recently joined together..
"balkan" Discussed on Revolutions
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President Biden Recognizes Massacre of Armenians as Genocide
"Talking about international reaction from From around the world has specifically from from turkey about prisoner biden statement earlier today the hundred six anniversary in what's known as genocide day. The president said quote each year on this day. We remember the lives of all those who died in the ottoman era armenian genocide and recommit ourselves to preventing such an atrocity from ever occurring again beginning on april twenty four nine hundred fifteen with the arrest of armenian intellectuals and community leaders in constantinople by ottoman authorities. One million armenians were deported massacred remarks to their deaths campaign to extermination than he. He goes on important thing. Is he says armenian genocide and the turks almost immediately. The turkish foreign ministry almost immediately reacted. The president actually had a phone call with president earlier. This week. I don't recall the readout of it. But the g word wasn't in there and it really has gotten to the point for the turks. The are the last people in the room stomping around and that it. It really doesn't matter what they do. They're not the reason we tread softly for the last sixty years with. Because turkey was a key cornerstone there in the balkans in nato. We pre position nuclear weapons on on turkey. We had our first generation of ballistic missile nuclear nuclear missiles in turkey at the time the cuban missile crisis. They were key and they were they were key goud right up until the dissolving of the soviet union and then we. We've seen this rise in turkish nationalism. And here's sort of the problem. Is that the. Turks are fiercely fiercely fiercely proud of their own history and they're turkishness but but denying that. This actually was a campaign that the turks portrays ono no no. It was a civil war. And you know things happen. It was
Birth Control In Times Of Crisis
"We're in the maternity waiting room at hospitals university. Tarot asthma has meals the main public hospital in gupta columbia's biggest border city with venezuela it's before the pandemic and there are some fifteen pregnant women sitting in the green towel hallway it's heart and the fans are buzzing the women's quietly in tank tops and flip. Flops they robbed their prominent bellies. One woman's she's wearing a pink will be squished between two older book. Your women she looks fragile in her hospital gown. She holds an ivy back in her left. Hand her name is excellently. So long deal thing will make a yankee. Lima nipples in the balkan kunz online exhibition traveled alone more than seven hundred miles from so i think her hometown in northeastern as well. She was afraid of giving birth in her home country because hospitals have no resources and she couldn't afford a private clinic and clearly she wasn't the only one more than half of the women in the waiting room. Arvin as well to see my conversation with axial ends abruptly just having really painful contractions and a nurse sticks her way into the delivery room at twenty years old. She's about to give birth to her second child. None of her pregnancies where
Syrian who fled to Germany 5 years ago runs for parliament
"Derek otherwise who five years ago crossed the Mediterranean and trekked north through the Balkans tools Germany fleeing the civil war in his homeland Syria is now running for national parliament since arriving along with little German found a steady job and launched a campaign to run for a seat in parliament in September he's told the Associated Press at a rally in support of asylum seekers outside the Reichstag building in Berlin where parliament seats but as the first refugee from Syria to aim for such a political appointment he wants to give a voice to refugees and migrants in Germany and five full of diverse unfair society or otherwise joined the Green Party last year and he's running as the candidate in a west German parliamentary constituency I'm Charles the last month
Reconstructing a Cretaceous Flora
"But you know they. Scientific metal is the same as a paleo balkans. What are the questions we want answered. My number one thing about being available botanist is fuel work. The most fascinating part. Now i could tell you stories all day collecting also but that is what is so exciting is beginning to feel and all these things and splitting that you know that to me is what is ultimately when i split iraq is the first human to see these lead for the first time you know by breathe again or like you know that that to me is is might not be one thing but then of course the research questions and the papers golden Outreach and mentoring students come with so i was really cumulated in all. It took me years to learn about kony for city although seat plants but the question is why do we have this diversity today. What happened to all these groups of plans that when stink Why did they stink. And ultimately how can use fossils ones that have been working from goalie. I grew relationship between seed plants. So that's one of the major questions that we're trying to answer these projects and once again. It's a lucky to be at a place where no one has ever been before. And now when i was invited to be part of this project computer collected several samples and some fossils that are so strange that years literally to figure it out wear and we were like know what it is. A spot of the party is also challenging. You know when you find something new when we still have many fossils from golden Grits specimens
Balkans feel abandoned as vaccinations kick off in Europe
"As tens of thousands of people across the European Union begin rolling up their sleeves to get a corona virus vaccination shot one corner of the continent he's left behind feeling isolated and abandoned the Balkans the nations such as Bosnia and Serbia have struggled to get access to cable nineteen vaccines for multiple companies and programs most of the nation's on Europe's southeastern periphery still waiting for the first vaccines to arrive with no firm timeline for the start of the national inoculation drives one expert has told regional TV network twenty four the rich have grabbed all the available life boats leaving the less fortunate behind I'm Charles de Ledesma
Serbia opens pipeline for Russian gas, ignores US opposition
"Vooch. It's has resided or the ceremonial opening of the Serbian section of the Russian lead. Balkan stream natural gas pipelines extremist controversial the U. S secretary of state Mike Pompeo, causing a Kremlin tool, he says it makes your more beholden to Russia for its gas on it deprives Ukraine of revenue from transit pipelines. In some respects. It replicates the former South Stream project that the West abandoned in response to Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean peninsula six years ago. President Alexander Footage said the pipeline would attract investors to Serbia once the domestic network was extended. Russia's Ambassador Alexander but Sam Hart Jenko called it the best New year's gift to ensure service stability. All the time military commander
Contemporary public art: who is it for?
"Louisa. When i look back over the newspaper dot com archive in in relation to christoph boucle. What i found was a lot of fierce debates mentioned in the articles about him often involving authorities as well as art world people. He wants to create this kind of control. He doesn't need so so tell us about this latest controversy. Why is it such conservancy. It starts off by the venice biennale in two thousand nine hundred nineteen when we will all of us walking through the arsenal and that was a vast rusting boat on the key side. Not in water. That's not an unusual thing to see. It looked kind of weirdly home amongst the other sort of naval paraphernalia around in the snarly but then of course there was no notice nothing to identify it. If diligent you look up in the catalog but unite was very mysterious but of course word of mouth soon came through this was indeed a work and art not a piece of rusting boatlift over by the navy it was balkan nostra it was cooled and it was actually the very boat which had been leaving libya for its louis laden with excess. Don't know how many of the thousands immigrants trying to get it collided with portuguese freighter. Got into trouble and sunk killing everybody. Pretty much on board. I mean it was an absolute atrocity slash disaster. The boat was then taken by the italian navy to sicily where there was an incredible detailed forensic investigation on all of the bodies of the victims many of whom were trapped in the hall of the boat. They'd be impacting. It was it was a trafficking boats. It was a horrific horrific scenario There was a forensic detailed investigations to who the identity of these people were many of their families traced and so they learn to the terrible fate of relatives now. I didn't quite know how this happened. But then time passes from two thousand fifteen. Somehow a deal is struck with the sicilian town of augusta where this both ended up in the naval base to bring it to the venice biennale as an exhibit. Christopher cal had signed a contract with the town of augusta that he could borrow the boat for yeah it would be exhibited has been and then he would return it a year later so the boats there everybody feels extremely conflicted about some people said it was a brilliant idea that shows how decadent the art world is how decadent our world is how uncaring we are. It was kind of appalling. I felt the boat was parked right by the cafe. So you start swinging europe roles and your and your cappuccinos. Perhaps not knowing there was in effect the site of mass atrocity a mass grave. Right beside you. So was it makes us think about our place. In the world on carrying thought about crises unfolding very close to us or was it. An exploitative opportunistic attention seeking Profile raising artwork by christopher. Koop and as you say he does have form in this respect. He's done other things. He's crushed landed a mosque in venice inside the catholic church for another being all for the icelandic pavilion. Several years ago he also set up community centers on controversial other things in tasmania. We'll probably talk about in a minute. So but this was a big one and yes it's very raw and the debate in the controversy still rages but the latest part of. This debate is a year on from the being ali. The boat is still. There is a dispute between the being early organization and bianco and he's gallery well absolutely yes. Because as i said he signed a deal with the city in town of augusta. Maybe you know. Maybe money exchanged hands. I don't know but anyway but the deal was that the boat would then come back to augusta where apparently it was intended to be the centerpiece for memorial park with the consent of the relatives. Also in all kinds of rumblings around the time in the been on it was stated apparently the families had given their permission for this boats to be used or some families are given their permission. I mean gardeners specific. But that will talk of permission. But now there's the boat the biennale a now say they have been hassling buco since november last year to bring this boat back to honor his agreement to honor the contract with cillian town of august. Gustave saying they want the boat back as well now sources close to buco say that because he never talks to the press which is another thing we can talk about minute They say apparently the boat was damaged in transit coming venice so it's going to be impossible until the cradle support is fixed for it to come back again to augusta so buco is now trying to get insurance to pay for this either from the benaroya. Who said no go away or probably problem rudely or indeed from the shipping company. But i mean. I would say that you know only ethics about whether you actually share bin ali or not. I felt squeamish. I think we're dead. People are concerned it starts to get very problematic. Any put all those ethics to one side. You honor the agreement to the families you on the agreement to the place from whence you lent it and if and if the cradle got caught up and pay for it or you make your gary who house involved not show for penny or two to cough up and pay for it you know. I draw lines more lines in the sand. Whatever want feels about artworks raising profile of terrible crises. Apparently there's talk about taking the boat to brussels to show how come the the eu have been ignoring the immigration crisis. I mean lofty motives. But you know this is a place where over thousand people died.
Serbia, Montenegro expel each other's ambassadors
"Neighboring countries expelling each other's ambassadors is not normally the prelude to anything good so montenegro. Booting out serbia's ambassador. On saturday with belgrade responding in kind raised alarm bells in the balkans which is the way of alarm bells in the balkans raised alarm bells elsewhere but serbia has now decided against declaring montenegro ambassador persona non grata amid much talk of goodwill between neighbors. So what is behind this spat and is serbia's man in pod. Grits still packing his bags. Well let's get the latest from our man in the balkans delaunay guy. Montenegro kicked this off by throwing out. Serbia's ambassador so let's start there. What had serbia's ambassador done to upset them. He said what they thought the provocative things about the notion of the montenigrin state. And he's like saying they sort of things and he said them once too often it would seem his most recent touch rent so this is a guy called vladimir bolshevik. Choose serbia's man. In montenegro he described this is the raw the flowery way that they not oppressive poverty. That the decision by montenegro authorities in one thousand nine hundred thousand nine to unify with serbia was a liberation and a free expression of people's will to unite with fraternal serbia Now the one thousand nine hundred union of montenegro with the what was then the kingdom of serbs croats and slovenes clue. There's no space for montenegro. In the name of that particular state Has not ever gone down. Well in history with a certain section of people montenegro Least of all those who say that we are an independent state became independent and twenty six and are larger neighbours. Should stop meddling in our as i mean. This is not terrifically. Diplomatic behavior from an ambassador. Was he going anywhere with this. Or was this the consequence of having perhaps over enjoyed one or two receptions. I couldn't possibly say on this. There's a lot of very undiplomatic behavior in this neighborhood. The those one diplomat in in he used to boast about spearheading a digital diplomacy initiative and this digital diplomacy initiative seem to entirely consist of insulting serbia on twitter. So that's that's the level of things. Here and keen. Listeners may have noted that in the past year relations between serbia and montenegro have been a little bit more tense than the normal in large part because of the montenegrin presidents decision to to launch an attack on the serbian orthodox church montenegro. He lived to regret this decision when his party. Then lost the parliamentary election in august. But this this rows being going on all year and the being little pokes and nichols and needles Going backwards and forwards between the two sides. Serbia as i read it has now currently given the montenigrin representative in belgrade. A reprieve at which point. I think we do need to give it up for the montenegrin ambassadors name. How can you refuse. A man called tarzan milosevic willing to in any religion be wrong. Any relation to any relation to either taza and milosevic is what i'm asking. I didn't think so. And this is not unusual. Balkan name by the way so. He's got very unusual parents. All these parents who thought that their son would go on to do unusual things which in some ways he has. I mean serving is montenegro. Ambassador to belgrade is something that wouldn't have been on their minds. Perhaps when taunton was A came into the world as some sixty years ago say but anyway He's got his reprieve. It would seem launch because of serbia's president alexandrovich There was a press conference in belgrade on sunday evening. At which prime minister. John boehner delivered. The word from the president's office said he decided the some things are more important than diplomatic protocol and he would extend the hand of fraternal friendship To montenegro which bearing on everything that's gone before was a little bit ironic. So is this actually going anywhere. This wanna are poised for a new era of rancor between serbia and montenegro or is this more one of your teacup the storms. There's actually something going on behind the scenes. Which is we're bound to have. A new government installed in montenegro. So i mentioned the election in august. We the government hasn't been installed yet. It's due to be installed tomorrow and this new government is fairly serbia friendly. It's it's a funny old coalition. The largest party of which is very friendly towards serbia and russia and they've accused the outgoing administration which is dominated by miller djukanovic. Even though he's the president and not the prime minister of stirring the pump basically they're saying the trying to increase divisions within montenegro society between ethnic serbs and montenegrins and with neighboring serbia before they got booted out of government formerly Tomorrow and i think that's quite a reasonable analysis. Delaunay thanks as always joining us. That was monaco's balkans correspondent god alone
Kosovo's president resigns to face war crimes charges
"The president of Kosovo. Hashim Thaci has resigned after saying that a special Kosovo tribunal in the Hague had confirmed his indictment on war crimes charges. Here's our Balkans correspondent Guide alone E. Mr Thatcher told a news conference he was stepping down so that he wouldn't face trial while serving as president. He said his resignation would protect the integrity of Kosovo and called on people to remain calm. Kosovo specialist Chambers has yet to respond to. Mr Thatcher's statement earlier this year, had confirmed that prosecutors had issued an indictment but said an investigating judge still had the option to confirm or dismiss charges. Quarter's investigating allegations that former leaders of the Kosovo Liberation Army committed war crimes and crimes against humanity in the late 19
PJ ORourke and the search for the centre ground
"These last five years or so have been rough going for a lot of people. Among, them have been those who think of themselves as occupants more or less of the middle of the road, the zealous, the bipartisan the consider as of arguments on their own merits compromises count we all just get along is. So. Polarizing have these times being that even some of those who might in less crazed and Febrile Times have been considered ideological out lawyers appear suddenly reasonable. Special. Guest this week is PJ O'Rourke, the journalist foreign correspondent and satirist who made his name as a conservative contrarian in the nineteen eighty, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety s gleefully winding up the liberal subscribers of rolling stone and writing bestselling books including Republican, Party reptile give war a chance and peace kills a rock became if possibly despite himself, the favorite conservative of American liberals being about as much a liberal as American conservatives could stand. His latest book a cry from the farm middle dispatches from the divided land fines rourke. If not exactly standing afford history yelling stop. Then at least flailing gamely at the on rushing tide of dogmatic foolishness with the broom of measured reason and not once does he mangle metaphor nearly as grotesquely that this is the last episode of this program which will be broadcast before a rox fellow Americans make a fairly fundamental decision about what their politics is going to look like from here on can the centre-ground be retaken and is anyone still there? This is the foreign desk. The anarchistic Listrik point of view that is common at the end of the teens in the beginning of the twenties and on for those of us who matured very late. Reality shake you out of that I mean anybody who tells me are an anarchist I'll invite them to revisit Mogadishu with me. Let me show you what anarchy really means. Now non nealer hand is sort of like armed nitwit trump supporters. Maybe should have had a little goal at Northern Ireland back in the eighties. Where that road leads, if you WANNA take that road all the way down to the end of that road Belfast was. Enlightening experience as we're the Balkans and so and saw that light goes to mitigate. Once absolutism and certainly once anarchism knowle's. Page or you welcome to the foreign desk this episode may end up appearing as either the last signal before the ship sinks or the fanfare perhaps of some new door and we need to frame our conversation accordingly indeed find a middle ground which I think is appropriate to certainly the theme of Your New Book the title a cry from the Far Middle Does seem to book in Republican Party. Reptile from Nineteen eighty-seven to an extent. But the question is can the middle ground be made to sound atl sexy and exciting? No. I'm Sir Short Answer. Thank you for joining us. PJ. House that was a quick interview of Frank Answer and a One one been looking for a certain amount of honesty in politics. I just saw something the other day I saw the first honest yard sign that I have seen over here in the states this election campaign, it said settle for Biden. If it weren't for the pandemic I would've gone knocked on their door and give them the big. Hug. But is there a way you think that centrism can be made to sound at all exciting could there be a centrist party reptile. Yeah, it would be very tough, but you know it really I just want to go back to US fighting in our usual way I don't want to put an end to our quarrels with some sort of sweet and mushy kiss on both cheeks wall befriends from now on and forever no I want to go back to a good strong fight between the left and the right. Trouble is to fight has gotten away from the issues. You know the coral it's one of those things like a good old family feud. Coming from an enormous Irish family I am plenty familiar with us. A good family feud where the cause of the the anger is long forgotten and people are just screaming and yelling at each other and threatening each other and misbehaving. In general we want a period where the left and right really had to confront themselves. They had to confront the failure of communism, which is leftism taken to its greatest extreme. The left had to confront the failure of that Ed to confront the failure of their socialist economies in western Europe in in the UK and so on. The right had to then confront the fact that it was much less fund should be empower under Reagan and Thatcher. Then it was to be standing outside pressing your face against window making grievances and obscene gestures and turned out that the free market. Lovely thing though it is, it doesn't solve all our problems magically either so we had to fight that album. It's now been. So long ago since we had those substantive fights that we've forgotten how to argue. So my comparison I don't think actually put this in the book, but missing about sense is that. Are Put aglow arguments have ceased to be real political arguments about real issues as say, no, do we increase the scope of the national health improve its funding and operation or do we modify? It means tested? Give a little larger scope to the private sector Blah Blah. Blah Instead. It's one of those things and anybody who's been in a marriage or partnership it starts out with shall We re Slip Cover the SOFA and it ends up with, and then there was a woman you were flirting with that party in Nineteen ninety-one to which the other half of the partnership response I hate your mother I'd never settled out but I hate your mother, you know. And here we are
"balkan" Discussed on Dark Secret Place
"If. You're thinking that we're on the verge of a civil war. I cleaned up the mess left in from a civil war for year my life in Bosnia. Cape were not near that. I wasn't around eighteen sixty. But. One of my experiences in life was cleaning up the mess of a civil war and that not only means the feelings of the various warring sides. But I'm talking literally about mass graves about exhuming mass graves. Full of kids adults old people even one that had the family pet senate. Really Weird. And so I've seen what civil war can do, and that was an ethnic civil war but a civil war nevertheless. and. I'm telling you that you're racing to a conclusion that no evidence supports whether you're far left and you say trump's not gonNA leave the White House. It from a practical standpoint if he loses the election. He's GonNa leave the White House The Washington. Post had a story today about a pro Bono attorneys are gonNA make themselves available? because. If you're not aware of this, there's going to be fairly significant national guard active call up prior to the election. there's going to be considerable federal law enforcement. Resources moved to Washington DC and all think it's. If you can't figure it out. November is GONNA be as show leading up to the election, and there's not gonna be a winner on the night of Tuesday November third. So it's going to be an show possibly for several weeks as as dribs and drabs of envelopes from states that have never had mail it elections are trying to make trying to. D F. This first time ever here we have to enforce We have a lot of male inexperience and Dean Logan. The county registrar knows exactly where to find enough ballots to get whatever tax increase to pass. Secondly. We're not in play. This state doesn't matter spoiler alert Biden Wins California they're gay but. I want you vote yes and proximity to and vote vote anyway I'm so anyway. You may not see it here. But in some of the swing states where they don't have a lot of male and experience it's to be an s show and there are some people who are going to say that they're stealing the election on both sides. You understand this if there are shot and by the way in Denver tonight, don't tell you about this. A pro Patriot rally a versus and ANTIFA rally happened and a pro Patriot guy was shot and killed. Turns out by a security contractor working for a TV. Outlet. Tell you about that. I have a really depressing sad feeling about this now as I say I've seen the aftermath of civil wars were not close to what set that one off. But we have loads and loads, loads of individuals who think that they're in a life or death moment and that they're being called upon as Patriots. I would just say this don't contact me because my next phone call will be to the FBI there. I've saved you some brief backward after this WHAT HAPPENED IN DENVER? I'll give you that what we know. The latest that we know in just a second Kfi am six, forty s e darcy replace live everywhere on the iheartradio APP..
"balkan" Discussed on Dark Secret Place
"And One little ones that the by Giannis had early success with and here's the deal. This is what's called a loitering weapon. You launch it ten kilometers away from your your the suspected target area. Artillery's coming from this one grid square. Five, kilometers away you launch several of these drones and the operators fly them individually give him an area to go to. Then they begin scanning with the optics and they discover some Armenian t seventy two's that are in dugout revenue mints that from the ground, you wouldn't be able to see. But. The drone is circling above at about sixty miles an hour just making circles a two thousand feet nobody down there can hear it. And the operator. The Azerbaijani operator then designates a target and then guides that that drawn down onto the t seventy two and if it doesn't destroy, it outright immobilizes it and this has been a devastating weapon unveiled by the as. Roma. Janis which many of us have known about for years. One, of the earliest ones was made in. Monrovia at Arab firemen. Monrovia slash seamy valley or the test them and stuff the Chinese have done very very well with this kind of weapon because very quietly the people supplying them with weapon are Israel Aircraft Industries Because I. Has Made The sky striker a drone for. Nearly a decade now. Many people operate them. The Israelis upright them as by John operates them. The Israelis have been on the ground and observation since the late nineties one when I was in Baku interviewing for Radio Free Europe Voice of America the hotel I was in was with US special forces and Israeli guys Israeli civilians. They for for Israel by John is a strategic allies because I. If I remind you how the map works as a by John, has a lengthy southern border with the northern border of Iran and in any future Israeli strike on rainy nuclear forces the search and rescue on the part of the Israelis downed pilots would originate in Azerbaijan. Worst. Kept secret about the future strike the future joint Israeli strike on Iran. So, Iran not a big fan of by John which might confuse you at this point because wait aren't they all Muslims well, they'll play that card when it's convenient. In this case, Azerbaijan has made it crystal clear. They're not too tight with Iran's flavor of Islam, and the Iranians therefore have declared that the other by Janis are of course heretics. And even even worse there apostates. Way But they're not they're they're in bed with the Jews and so the enmity between Azerbaijan and Ron. Can't be adequately expressed. So where the strange bedfellows come in? Iran also shares a border with Armenia and if you don't know this Armenia..
"balkan" Discussed on Dark Secret Place
"Thirty six speaker sound system in the Cadillac. Escalade provides three hundred, sixty degrees sound not just here we're heap but everywhere. The twenty twenty, one, Cadillac Escalade never stop arriving this sausage is perfection. Activities Coming Bryan suits. On KFI. Nearby complete radio transmitter will actually broadcast from Cape before the shot. I would bomb. Out of them. got. Dark secret place with Brian Suits Archaic. I am. Six Forty Five everywhere on the IHEART radio APP it is dark secret weekly look at the world melting down and a lot of lot of melted all over the world. We'll give you the latest on the What they're calling a ceasefire in the Caucasus between the Armenian enclave of. Karabakh or Awestruck is perhaps you've learned to say. And the surrounding country other Biljon A whole lot of local Tien obviously with several hundred thousand. Ethnic Armenians in southern California alone nearly a million in California including a former governor. Dukmajian so a lot of people. Very interested with the connections and let me just say. A to all of you in the Armenian community who reached out to me giving me direct sources. Thank you very much. I actually have more than I need and and so I've been in direct contact with with a lot of people in the capital of. Nagorno. Karabakh Stepanakert. Is is your phrase pays on that one and in none of here's the thing they don't want US voices on the air but I've got a lot of information, direct first hand information, and so thanks to all of you who've helped me with that and and thanks to some of my old sources here on. Olive. Avenue. By the way for for direct phone numbers to their brothers in the like. That are there. There's there's a certain there's a certain style or a certain store that specializes in a certain product up and down all of avenue and and if many of them are Syrian Christians but then many others are Armenians including Armenians from nagorno-karabakh. So we'll get to that also. North Korea with a very, very unusual. Military prayed today honoring the seventy fifth anniversary of the formation of.
Travel to Zagreb
"Let's start with a look at a European capital that's often overlooked by the beach crowd who enjoy Croatia's crystal clear coastline. But miss out on the scene in its capital city. It has a distinctively modern take on old world charm and it's just a few hours inland. To tell us about saga we're joined now by local guide Darya goateed. She's joined by Ben Curtis who writes about the Balkan regions elaborate history and thinks that Croatia's best period may be now Darya in Ben Welcome my pleasure. Same. Thank you for having. US Doria. You're from Zagreb your guide in Zagreb, a lot of Americans no Dubrovnik. Venice and a lot of Americans know the Anna Zagreb is right there in the middle. What should we know about Zagreb? Nanna. Saga is I would say the mix of. All these big capitals around and all these much better known cities around from historical perspective It was influenced by different cities and countries. So we have a little bit of all of that. What's an example? How is it a little bit of? How is it a little bit of Italy says it a little bit of the Slavic World So? obas part of the hops Burke monarchy later austro-hungary for few hundred. Years. And then architecture in town is very much what we would call out through nor Central European. So the mixture of Hungarian hungarian-austrian. We don't have much Dubrovnik textures that. Is Zog. Is completely different about the cuisine that scene is also very influenced by Austria but not only that we do eat struggles and. A lot of meat and potatoes and then on the other hand we also eat. A lot of Pasta beat some. We are very sensitive on coughing, and then we also have the Turkish influence because arguable also for few centuries, just about forty, five, fifty miles Sir north from the Ottoman Empire boarder okay. It's a crossroads release across through the s the Ben Curtis here in American who has a fascination and a deep interest in this part of Europe how would you say Zagreb is unique Zagreb is unique for being this gem of a central European capital. So everybody can measure saying they know Budapest, Vienna, they know Prague, but here's this. Gym of a historical city that hardly any American visits right and even though Zagreb stars rising on the Tourism Front these days but you can go there and it's not gonna be jammed with busloads of tourists from all over the place you're not gonNA hear a lot of other North American accents and you're going to be able to experience the city where the fabric of locals you're going to be sitting in a cafe with mostly other people from Zagreb, and that's great and it's hard to find that in Dubrovnik are in Vienna these days a year. Exactly. So if you had two nights in in one Danes, is there enough to keep you busy. Yeah. For sure I think, what would you do if you're gonNA show me around for a day the it's a great kind of one day stop if you're coming in and out for some of the coast. So Zagreb surprisingly has some of I think are the best museums of its kind in Europe now they're quirky right? You don't. Go desire grab for the Louvre or something like that. But you go to Zagreb for these unusual small museums like the Museum of naive art, which is great sort of not formally trained perhaps painters but really characteristic art with peasant themes. The famous one which is kind of made headlines around the world is a museum of broken relationships which is filled with these stories of couples who have broken up the objects that they have Meant something to them and they've given it this museum and so it's just a really interesting kind of poignant sometimes hilarious trip through people's relationships. So when we think of this naive art, I love this idea because you go to most art galleries in Europe Bennett, the opposite of naive arted this refined fully embraced high-society art but naive art is by definition just unschooled hasn't Sir Working People that just had a passion for painting. Exactly but are often very, very talented even if they didn't train at the academy or something like that but they're expressing the lives and cultures and artistic visions of people from the rural areas and it's genius really an undiscovered genius that happen to come out of the farm community or something absolutely. I love that museum by the way that that's really one of the unique things in Europe and it is in the capital of Croatia Zagreb.
Interview with Khalil Zahar, Founder of FightCamp
"Guys that's Martin from shape. We're here right now in San Francisco Studio and unconnected to aid today on with the founder of fights cab Saha. Could you why don't you deduce yourself? It'll. Yeah. Awesome. First of all, thanks a lot for receiving me on the PODCAST. Martin. So my name is Lil- I'm the CO founder, CEO Camp and weekly started Fi Kim about a year and a half ago. So. If I is an interactive corn boxing gym, it comes with everything you need to start boxing and actually follow videos that are built by the best trainers of all the west coast they all fighters they all have obviously a tremendous fight expands but they're also great fitness instructor general for the listener on on our show that has never seen. It's what should be should be mentioned punching back and a pair of gloves. So what be? Yes. So it comes with a free standing bag. The best standing back on the market with a pair of didn't win leather gloves made an approved by fighters with a workout Matt, a pair of with be called quick grabs and the special sauce is who? Motion trackers that you put into quick wraps Ma and detract your hands a thousand times per second trek speed and my my punches. How many punches I'm doing per minute of what should I expect? Yes they tracked the type of country throw the measured the speed of the bunches basically build your output profile from one round to the other. What about impact? Not The impact is really the velocity. Okay. The of your hand and which actually throwing and how does like the coaching look like you were mentioning that you have coaches of all over the place and should I imagine like watching them like on my TV or iphone ourselves for me? Yes. So it comes with an APP you can the. Myriad on a large screen TV or you can watch the workouts on an IPAD whatever you prefer, and then from there, it's Kinda like all you can eat buffet. Really. So if you're advanced, you can jump straight into the advanced workouts right away we go and deep into the complex combinations. We'd practice footwork and the workouts very intense. Otherwise, it can literally start at the very first time. You've you're you're throwing your first punch. So we have what we call the prospect where it takes you from zero boxing experience teaches you to six inches and then at the end of the prospect path which. is about a four weeks program you actually know how to six months probably you know how to stand you know the basics Balkan it's mostly regular boxing the offer classes for a time boxing mma Nelson actually were focusing on boxing at the moment but we're having a lot of internal conversations around providing kickboxing as well as a kickboxing in multi, really as a as a an expansion and so so who's like you you're right now is it really like what you just mentioned on the beginners or is it like somebody that's been into boxing all their life or hundred, seventy, four for you Guys. Yeah, it's really seventy five percent beginners, but it's actually very interesting to see like a lot of them are now not beginners anymore So you know we kind of took a bunch of them. You know through the program you get to see videos online and on the social media and they're getting very proper form on have the basics of boxing. Of course, they don't have the in ring experience right visit steely it's a home virtual experience. Yeah. You can't really compete against somebody else right right. So Yeah, you actually can compete but on up put and precision you can't compete on. Actual defense offense. Of course, you're not going to get him. You know and does like a class look like, is it one on one coaching tailored to me or is it like a big class like pedal tone style or yet is really a group class? So it's you'll have usually the video stream will be divided into not that it's divided on the screen per se but vary between having the camera centered on the coach, and then you're getting bureau that is very dynamic. The camera moves around in the class and focuses on the participants taking the class live at our studio in Newport beach. For for me, you know like me having like an iphone like my supposed to put up my iphone like somewhere like on a on a counter, and then look at it while I'm like punching out on my back or how should I mention it? Yeah. That's a very good question like there's not a lot of people use it only with the with the iphone unless they're traveling aren't as they're actually using it in a gym gym or their apartment Jim the vending most people digging each day my cable upload, the Stream directly on on a big screen. TV. Your accent. Yeah. Oh we have a portion of our users. We actually are doing it on the night pat about Apple TV, that works as well Yeah. You can mirror exactly. You can use apple TV to mirror the the stream directly on a big screen TV as well. That's definitely the best experience you're getting very loud sounds and music. You hear the voice really really properly, the nose of the bag doesn't supplant the voice of the trainer lifts. Your stats are displayed very big for you. So like you're really into it, you feel like you're you're being tracked in. Really part of a group experience and it's both IOS and android os mostly s right now. Saying. It's only on ISLA, its and so why are people doing it Do they just WanNa, get a workout and they are not happy with you know like an experience like Peleton or maybe the half a pedal tone and want to supplement it with something else or do they actually want to get into boxing learn those skills forward let's say self defense. Yeah it's interesting. So. Like calm, we have two types of customers. The first type of customers really just will always intrigued boxing They want to do it because it's a work of that Jesse get something out of it even though you would stop working out after a year like you would still acquire the skills and those are self defense skills. You know a lot of people are mystified by you know. How to actually throw a punch and Hudson do properly. So that was one of our customers the other portion of because there is actually coming from the idea that boxing is the best workout to get in shape and the discovered the fundamentals and techniques through fight Cam. So the first reason they joined is for fitness purposes really assuming that boxing is the best workout out there the. Other portion come straight because they want boxing, but they can't attend to have a busy lifestyle. Their young parents hitting the gym is increasingly harder would a busy schedule? so that's the other proposition that they really resonate with and
Serbia says it will move Israeli embassy to Jerusalem, Kosovo to recognize Israel as part of US-brokered talks
"Sutherland US broker talks, leading to two more diplomatic breakthroughs for President Trump, Serbia and Kosovo, agreeing to normalize economic ties over a decade after their bloody split. In addition, Kosovo agreeing to recognize Israel and Serbia will know Of its Israeli Embassy to Jerusalem leaders from both Balkan countries visiting the White
Pompeo: Chinese threat may be worse than a 'Cold War 2.0'
"US Secretary of state might compare has bill named middle of Oprah this week you warning that the threat from China good welby worse than that posed by the Soviet Union at the height of the cold. War Mr Pompeo's visits is taking in the Czech Republic Austria, Poland, and Slovenia. This is what he said yesterday. The contrast between free and unfree society has never been clear. Free nations must work together to confront authoritarian threats. Chief among those threats is the Chinese Communist Party and its drive to control people and information at our economies. When a Balkans correspondent guided Loni has been following his journey. Welcome back to the program guy good to have you with us. I wipe out the with Slovenia with no disrespect obviously to the nation itself. I think far enough I mean it's only two million people live here. So it's not exactly huge, but it is a NATO member and there is a family connection of course, Emma and Mr. Pompeo made that point in his opening remarks saying that he brought greetings for Melania trump who is noticeably absent from her homeland. She was born in San Nitsa as Melania canals and she doesn't come back here very often. But Mr Pompey's said she was very envious about him visiting nurse Levin in particular Lake bled where he was doing his news conference but. The rather factors as well. So Slovenia is at at the moment and this is I wouldn't say was out of character, but it's just a matter of where how the political winds blowing here at the moment at the moment in the Prime Minister's office you've got somebody who thinks Mr trump is rather smashing fallow where prime, minister. Yannis Yansha uses twitter almost as enthusiastically as MR trump and spends quite a lot of that time. Enthusiastically, retweeting Mr Trump's tweets. So if you're going to have a friendly audience in Europe at the moment of your representative of the trump administration then Slovenia's an office place to stop off so more than simply passing on greetings from floaters and enjoying a slap up lunch at Lake bled we've just heard there a clip from Secretary of State Pompeo. Making China the real focus of his visit. He really did, and you only speak for about three or four minutes yesterday bend and I think at least two and a half of those minutes were spent really having a good old dig on against China before that. He was speaking about well, he was actually signing a declaration with the Foreign Minister of Slovenia about five G. Security, and this is all part of pushing what the trump administration calls. They're clean network program, and this is an attack on Chinese. Telecom. Companies Chinese tech companies hallway in particular Zeti threatening for the Balkan they've both been very high profile targets of the trump administration and leave you signing up to this five of this clean network program. You'll basically making a commitment, you'll knocking to use any untrustworthy. Vendors in your five G. Systems and the United States is saying it wouldn't have any of these vendors anywhere near any of its embassies went allowed anywhere near any of this State Department. Systems. A lot of come countries, of course are not signing up to this, but Slovenia has and it's got its five G. Network installed by. As of last month, take that way well has replied China Chinese commentators of wounded central and eastern Europe shouldn't be fooled. What would describes Mike pompeo embracing an entirely entirely cold war mindset it is. It is a dangerous thing. Isn't it when you start going into the likes of the Czech, Republic and Poland and Slovenia, and START TALKING ABOUT IDEOLOGICAL THREATS Yes I'm you know he really has gone the full evil empire on? Am You when you talk about Cold War rhetoric either way that he's he's talking really as I mean, as you heard in the clip there, it sounds like something from the nineteen eighties a talks again chief among these threats as the. Chinese. Communist. Party. It's drive to control people and. Information and our economies, and it's it's again talking about freedom loving people and becoming a five G. Clean country as Slovenia has done today as solidifies staff position. In this fight, the tide is turning against the Chinese Communist Party in its efforts to restrict freedom for all of us and I think what's interesting guys of course he's not saying China he's specifically saying. The Chinese Communist, party so he's criticizing the the system of government and control rather than country and the people itself, and that's I suppose the GATT out card But this is the way that the trump administration is going I recommend everyone to have a a good read of the clean network program just to see what they're saying in that and. Quite apart from anything else it does make it clear and not that it's part of the trump administration's drive and it's very interesting phrasing not the United States, not the State Department but the trump administration. So a spot of electioneering perhaps
Muscling up to China and 25 years since Srebrenica
"Tom Switzer, he and welcome to another episode off between the lines now today on the program will be commemorating the twenty fifth anniversary of Europe's worst massacre since the Holocaust in ninety, ninety, five more than eight thousand people died in Shrimp Nitsa. The town was supposed to be a U N protected safe haven in the vicious civil war that tore Yugoslav apart instead the civilians ended up being massacred by Bosnian Serbs. Were lightning fast with their superior weapons. They easily overran the lightly. I'm Bosnian government troops and the token full civilian peacekeepers. The UN's Valley to protect the civilians inspired Washington to launch unilateral action against Serbia and end the civil war. Would things be the same today now? That's later in the program, but first defense. Last week the Morrison. Government launched a defence strategy and force structure review now the move signals a major shift away from the strategy outlined in the last defence white paper. Remember that just four years ago in two thousand sixteen. It plotted out Australia's strategic costs for the next decade. But that White Paper has as we know been rapidly overtaken by Vince covert China or that now the new review has promised two hundred and seventy billion dollars over the next decade to enhance Australia's defence capabilities with renewed focus on areas like Saba and spice capabilities and the possible development of hop sonic weapons will be fitting aircraft with long-range anti-ship missiles, increasing underwater surveillance and boosting fuel ammunitions reserves. Now, underscoring the seriousness of the shift, the Prime Minister even drew comparisons to the nineteen thirties and the lead up to world. War Two that period of the nineteen thirties. Is Been Something I've been revisiting on a very regular basis and when you connect by the economic challenges and the global uncertainty. It can be very haunting, but is the money too much or not enough is going to all the right places, and we'll do enough to safeguard Australia from China's increasing assertiveness and is rapidly growing military capabilities. What's the role of Australia's diplomacy? And all of this will joining me to discuss this at three distinguished guests. By skill is professor of Asia Pacific Security Studies at Macquarie University Holiday Bites. Thank you good to be here Melissa Conley. Tar is a research fellow at the Asia Institute at the University of Melbourne. Hi There Melissa could to speak again Tom. And Pay. The Jennings is executive director of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute. Tom No. Can you talk us through the top of scenarios and potential conflicts that the defense review is preparing us for the scenario that the review is focusing on is one involving a high end conventional conflict, so I've gone to the days of stabilization operations in t more Counterterrorism operations in Afghanistan This document is preparing foresight on onsite conflict. Involving countries that have sophisticated military forces. And, of course, the document doesn't say. I don't think it would be reasonable to expect it to say. That China is the problem. But let me tell you China is the problem that is the now neoplasia competitive that way of thinking about when we think about what's adequate in terms of the topic of military capability we need to have. and to does reflect to change. From past years Tom I recall when I started by defense career, we were thinking much more about the risks presented by Indonesia, and the so called low level in cushions in the northwest. Of course, that's no longer features in anyone's strategic thinking. Really it's about China and the risks that the People's Republic is presenting to all of its neighbors in abroad since in the Indo Pacific region and beyond I cabinet crudely putting it some sites laying the groundwork for fortress Australia US sign. This is preparing us to join a potential use LID. Containment slash war against China for example to protect Taiwan Peter Jennings. I think that is it covers a spectrum of possibilities. One possibility which I think is Epson you were in terms of language of the document is that we might conceivably end up having to face military conflict without being able to rely on the direct combat support of the United States, and that's what leads to discussions around extra stockpiling munitions and fuel insightful. But I think in general terms. Yes, the expectation is that Australia. Through its history has been a country that forms coalitions usually have like minded partners, the share the same types of objectives. And the the plan will design the Defense Force. Really gives us the capacity to do that with Rachel Ellis lecture, example, Japan but also with our traditional ally the United States okay bates skill. You've recently completed a review of China's defense capabilities and its recent military modernization, specifically looking at the implications for Australia Wind you expect the Peo- The People's Liberation Army and its navy. When do you expect them to have the capability to project power as far as Australia annual Pacific knives, well in many respects Tom, they already can I mean they have the long range missile capabilities to do that? Know as a from a standoff position launched from their own from their own homeland against hours. But what I think, the the new strategy is looking at is really the development of capability over the next ten fifteen twenty years, and that's by the Chinese own own acknowledged calendar that they would be able to by that time of mass, a large enough capability, both in terms of its long range strike, you know striking from their own homeland, but also bill to project. Project Power passed the so-called first and second island change and being a position to more directly threatened through those platforms Australian security. So you know we're talking ten or fifteen year window here and I think given the time it does take to try and respond to develop the the deterrent and defense capabilities for Australia. That's that's you know that's in some ways a short window. for Australia to be mobilizing in reaction Melissa Tali. What's the role of a strong diplomacy and all these well I think it needs to be growl. And one of the concerns when we look at the deteriorating strategic environment is we think all that's a defense problem? And so when the prime minister launches the strategic update with those comparisons with the nineteen thirties. It pushes US toward seeing in purely military terms but we don't just want to say things in that security lands, we want to think about all of the parts about national power projection, so that's diplomacy and development as well as defense I think if if people thought about it I think what we invest in all three strongly, but that's not where it is if you look at federal budget fifty. Fifty nine billion to defense and less than seven billion to diplomacy and development together the lowest point with ahead in our history and I think we missing that opportunity. If we don't take US seriously, the way that diplomacy and development can shape things in the world so I was struck. Today was a defendant looking at the latest poll on what are the major concerns that Australians have at the moment of the top threats in the world and the first five, a role nontraditional that drought, environment, disaster, climate change, pandemics, and downtown, global economy, and those places where you know military spending isn't going to help shape that environment. So we need to have an effect on those. We need to be thinking much more about what we can do in the diplomacy and development to mind Peter Jennings. What would you say in to Melissa's observations? Because they reflect a certain mindset that that perhaps we should be focused more on non state actors rather than say China for instance well, I think all of these you know threats that have to be taken seriously. I'm and simply because we're living in the middle of a pandemic for example, doesn't the climate change is gone away in this no longer going to present a problem to us. I guess what I'd say. Is that the you know the five things Melissa listed? That were in the featured in the low e Poland terms of popular concerns. Are also the things which could. In different ways late to the risks of conflict escalating in the Indo Pacific region generally so You know my my view, please while I would like to see spending on diplomacy increased. While I. Say Development Assistance is being something which is effectively the United soft in of Australian power, and the military is the hot end of Australian power. I think. The message against all of these areas is that we have just been underinvesting for decades underinvesting for decades, so we're we're all. High fiving ourselves at just reaching about two percent of gross national product, being spent on defense, but that is compared to what we spending in cold or years, which was sometimes between three and a half percent in four percent of rustic product. So what we have grown used to Tom I would say is. Free written on the United. States code tiles of security for for decades. We've dramatically under. Invested in the things that we need to do to strengthen Australia's position, not just militarily, but also diplomat. A now. We're rather surprised to hear the news that Gosh the bill is a lot more expensive than we really thought. It was only if you've got that confidence in the US. and. In fact, the whole trump stories, the story of the Americans really big being fed up with the rest of the world, thinking that the US can fund the bill for their security, so we're going to have to do more and I think we're going to have to do it against multiplicity of areas not. Justin sought the defense organization. We'll some scholars such as you want and James Current from the University of Sydney. They say that this document sounds a lot like an acknowledgement that the US might not always be there to help us out. By are we starting to plan for more independent Australian defense posture I think it would be a wise move to keep that option open when you think of the capabilities that the Chinese developing in which do have a direct pose a direct threat to Australia or could do so. In many respects, the I think the types of threats that you might not expect an immediate or even timely response on the part of the United States what I'm thinking here. Cyber capabilities is a huge priority for the Chinese. We already know what they see the sort of capability. They can wield against Australia and that's not the sort of thing you can expect a kind of cavalry to. Lead the charge from from Washington to come to Australia's defence slowly long range strike capability on the part of the Chinese capability. They already have in which are going to continue to develop. which could threaten Australia down the road now? These are capabilities that I think that Australia's going to have to develop their own defenses for. They can certainly do that with United States, but again it's not necessarily the sort of threat that we would expect some sort of traditional ally joint response not to make it well. Some of are in listeners will email me and they'll say that if Uncle Sam struggles to police. It's own CDs. Melissa. How on Earth Can Uncle Sam Police? The Asia Pacific region in the face of a rising China. What's your sense about us staying power in the next decade or two in look? It's difficult One of the things that strategic update looks at is more threats to the global rules order, and unfortunately the you know, the US is part of that. the US is not along with the strategies interest on things like global trading system, and a number of international issues like global health where we would say you need to be supporting. A Global Response that said I don't think the strategic update will be read negatively in. Washington, it's my guess. it very clearly couched in terms that I think the US will lock about Australia contributing more and having more self. that could be seen as a statement that we think that the US might not have outback, but can also be seen as something that the US has been for for a long time. I particularly liked a few elements of the update things like making sure that we have. You know material ammunition You know that aren't going to be disrupted. Buckle supply trying having more capability eight industrial cut suffering capability here antiques fuel reserves, which is not as long sane as an issue for us, so I mean those are things that are worth investing in. Regardless of US resolve because as we've seen from COVID, we know that supply chain can be disrupted very quickly and easily, and it's worth having eligibilities. Cepeda Jennings bite skill and Melissa Conley Toilet and Melissa. The Pacific step up last year. That realigned Australia's development budget to deal with some of the strategic challenges posed by China in the Pacific Do you think it goes far enough? The step up was followed recently by strategies new International Development Policy Partnerships for recovery, and that's made it very clear that strategies focus should be on the Pacific and also southeast. Asia including. Indonesia and team August. I think that has a very clear statement about what we want. In the region of being entrusted trusted development partner and influencing those societies that we think positive for four region. Again you're going to. You're going to say you. Hear this from me all the time, but again the problem is that we not really making much invasive lunch, so partnerships for recovery head no new money it talked about the massive challenges that covered as as creating for for the for the Pacific, and for for our region broadly, and the only funding announcement was that we're going to repurpose the money. We would have spent on sending Australian. Volunteers in scholarship holders. And we're GONNA use that so I I suppose I. Feel a little bit with all the areas, not actually include district update in that as well that what we've seen through the foreign policy, White Paper and International Development Policy through to to the defense. Strategic Updike is. We talk about how. how? What a time! These these frosty leaving a contested difficult awful environment that we've now got to leave in and the Dow L. Easy Times over, and then we say, and we're not gonNA. Give any new money so I mean the defense announcement is essentially just that we're going to continue to you know, extrapolate out the money that was planned to be spent in the twenty twenty six, and we're going to extrapolate that out to twenty thirty terabytes skill. Do we risk getting into a bidding war for influence in the Pacific? I don't know if it's a risk. If it is a risk worth worth taking. I mean obviously the Pacific region is so extremely important Australia's future. Both for for defense reasons for regional engagement for diplomatic reasons, developing reasons and the like. so It's quite possible that we're entering in a more competitive phase with China in this. SITES WRIST BYTES I'm talking about more the budgetary concerns he because in the wake of the Corona Virus Crosses. There'll be serious limits on how we can spend on these things scholley. Yes, there is and party left to be be developed for that, but you know when you're talking about your own backyard. I mean I I. I don't think it's the kind of country that can simply. Pretended it's by itself getting back pay to Jennings to the region, generally in the rise of what. Angus Campbell is of the Defence Force he's talked about the rise of political warfare, the idea of grey zone warfare things like cyber attacks, economic coercion influence operations that fall below the traditional threshold of war. He says we need a whole of government response to it. I, you seeing that whole of government approach happening in Campbell, or is this Manley focus on defense and the spy agency so far Peter Jennings. It probably is focused on the national security agency's Tom. That's not too surprising because you'd expect them to sort of pick up on the risks I. But General Campbell is right. It does need to be all government is. There's a whole lot of things happening there that simply cannot and should not be done by defense organizations. and. I think that realization is slowly dawning. Along as both of the speakers have said that actually ladyship comes with cost of infrastructure is going to play that role, but you know, give you a small example of this we. We have lost the ability to broadcast into the South Pacific and Southeast Asia. In a way that we used to very successfully over over decades to give us the capacity to do that. We're probably talking about you know that. He million a year forty million a year, which sounds a lot of defend. It's nothing if you're in the Defense Department. Let me tell you. But you need to be able to do things like that. To be the truth teller in the region to actually tell the region that there are alternatives to Chinese Communist Party authoritarianism I think that's what's needed with responding to this grey zone on threat. Is Actually to be the truth teller. In this part of the will and getting our system in Cambridge used to that reality to understanding what needs to be done. To starting at different type of conversation with our region. With our own people for that matter that that is a sort of a psychological change which I can see happening, but we're not quite yet. There's a bit of work still to be done to get to that point Melissa. Conley Tyler. Is, just responding on that. I agree entirely with what pitcher saying on on broadcasting. It's a small investment, such a an increasing influence. It should be Brian and I hope that did that's being seen. I think having defense voices. I will help a lot in a banks, seriously I'm but just went. When you ask Tom Balaton host government and what's happening there? There are some really good examples, so for example win. This Pacific step pop started an office of the Pacific was established in that apartment and tried and each job. He's to be that coordinating body, and it's bringing together the. The defense, the development and the diplomacy in a way that he's gone to maximize our influence. and I've noticed this a lot more discussion about that that three. How do you bring defense development diplomacy communities together? I'm involved in initiate the Pacific. Four Day and I think a lot of people not talking about what more we can do for that that joined up coordination to make the most about national instruments by skill. You're an expert on China. The elephant in the room of course is China doing need to be careful not to overestimate China's military strength. What about the weaknesses? Exactly right I mean you have to know your enemy's weakness as well as their strengths in the case of China, they are undertaking enormous reforming organization effort. They're pouring billions of dollars into new capabilities, but there's a lot of things we need to recognize I. Mean One is that the Chinese have not fought a shooting war and more than forty years. They are have no. They have zero experience in high end combat against a serious. Adversary, scenario, so that's not to downplay them, but to understand that they've got enormous obstacles to overcome that day. Themselves acknowledge that they themselves. No, they have to overcome, and that's why we had this window that we've been talking about. A fifteen to twenty years. to try and develop capabilities to get in front of the kinds of things that the Chinese want to bring to bear around. Around, twenty thirty or twenty, thirty, five, twenty, forty, paid-up Melissa to be continued. Thanks so much for being on our in. Thank you, tell my pleasure. Thank you, Tom. That was paid jennings. He's executive director of the Australian strategic pulsing suit by skill professor of Asia Pacific Security Studies at Macquarie University and Melissa Commonly Tyler. She's a research fellow at the Asia Institute at the University of Melbourne. These between the lines with Tom Switzer. Coming next, we're going to replay a version of a segment from between the lines. I 'cause commemorating the massacre of Bosnian Muslims at shredded Nitsa on the eleventh of July nodding ninety. Five twenty five years ago this week. More than eight thousand people were killed by Serb forces. It was the worst massacre. Europe had seen since the Holocaust. Serve softening up Trevor Nature for the army's final push into the town. Town of course was supposed to be a safe haven protected by the United Nations, but the civilians ended up being sitting ducks as I woke Larry. Hollingsworth Remembers I. Myself Feel Devastated and ashamed I was there with them? When we told them that it was a safe haven I watched. Many of these people walk in with the minimal possessions into shreds, knowing that it was a safe haven, and now they're fleeing out because we've let them down, let them down to the extent that within dies. About Twenty three thousand women and children were deported, and about eight thousand Muslim men and boys left behind where executed and buried in mass graves. Now, reports from the time described, frightening scenes stiffen overawed from medicines on frontier. Speaking he. Loading some of the children and women into buses, but there's no indication as to where it was buses, going with seen some horrifying streaming, going on women and children going into the buses being taken away from their family This was going on with a lot of crying a lot of panicking. The slaughter had been planned carefully and executed with precision. All the wall Dutch. Pace is literally stood by, and did nothing indeed even when the Serb assault on Srebrenica was imminent. in-command is still rejected Kohl's racetracks. Positions. Pope John Paul. The second declared ribbon Nitsa a defeat for civilization as media reports begins to reveal the scale of the unfolding tragedy. The UN says nine hundred thousand people are still unaccounted for. About some became clear as government soldiers emerging from the forest in central Bosnia, told of horrific massacres at the hands of the Serbs one young. People executing them on spot, but this didn't come out of the blue. By the time this massacre took place the civil war that tore the former Yugoslavia. Repot was heading into its fourth year. More than a million people have been displaced, and the world became familiar with a new term ethnic cleansing. So? Who is to blame for these well? Let's start with the United. Nations from ninety two to ninety, five shrivel Nitsa was the world's first union declared civilian syphon. It was supposed to to her aggression. It was supposed to aggression and set the scene for political negotiations to end hostilities between the Bosnian Serbs, and Muslims, but the UN soldiers in the SIPHONS. They were bedeviled by problems. If you declare an area safe haven in the name of the United Nations. Nations if you tell the people if they are safe in the name of the United Nations you have got to put the troops on the ground, and it's no good for politicians say yes, we go for safe havens, but we're not gonNA put the troops meanwhile the Europeans vacillated and equivocated failing miserably to cope with across at its own back door. America was also reluctant to get involved as then President George Bush senior explained in Nani Nani to. I? Something because I learned something from Vietnam. I am not going to commit US forces until I know what the mission is to the military. Tell me that it can be completed until I know how they can come out. You have ancient rivalries that have cropped up as as Yugoslavia's dissolved or getting dissolved, and it isn't going to be solved by sending in the eighty second airborne, and although on the campaign trail that Ye Bill Clinton pledged to reverse the appeasement of that bushes of Belgrade as President Clinton allowed the Balkans to bleed for three more years. French President Jacques Chirac was moved to declare quote, the position of the leader of the free world vacant. Trinite Sur changed all that having done nothing the before during the mass killings in Rwanda Clinton was galvanized into action, and crucially he cut the United Nations out of the Decision Chine on August thirty Washington led a night bombing campaign against the Serbs the NATO action began early this morning. The harsh light of fires and explosions coloring the night sky. Some people watched the bombardment from their houses, but after more than ten thousand deaths here in the last three years, most Sarajevans had given up any hope of outside intervention. Last night it came on a scale which could yet change the course of this war by the end of not ninety five sixty thousand nine hundred troops, including twenty thousand Americans were on the ground in Bosnia. Pace was declared. The BOEKEN's wars ended only because the US finally acted. He's President Clinton in November ninety five my fellow Americans in this new era there are still times when America and America alone can and should make the difference for peace. The terrible war in Bosnia is such a case nowhere. Today is the need for American leadership. More stark are more immediate than in. In Bosnia in the years since the Mexica Europe inaction was heavily criticised, and the US was held up for its global leadership in particular for its unilateral humanitarian intervention. This is when the US secretary. Of State. Madeleine Albright said America was the indispensable nation, and that idea would fade into the justification of the Iraq invasion in two thousand and three as a war of liberation, but he's a question with the US intervene. If the shrivel Nitsa massacre happened today from the standpoint of twenty twenty, we might ask if the era of US unilateral humanitarian intervention is well and truly over. Well, that's it for this week. Show remember if you'd like to hear the episode again or download segments since two thousand fourteen. Just go to ABC. Dot Net dot US slash aren and follow the prompts to between the lines, or you can listen via the ABC. Listen APP, or wherever you get your podcast. You can even subscribe, so you never miss an episode. I'm Tom Switzer continue next week.
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Novak Djokovic and the Adria Tour Antics
"Everyone John Wartime here is this week's sports illustrated tennis podcast hope everyone is well healthy wearing a mask not at a Belgrade disco topless, which I suppose is where we ought to start Jamie I'm glad you're you're with me today. How's everything in your world? It is good I. AM also not in a Belgrade club dancing around in close quarters. Shouting. Indoors So, that's a win I. You know I had wanted to do A. Normal podcast. We're going to talk to Donald Dell longtime agent. He had some very interesting thoughts about how to merge the ATP and the WPA we were GonNA talk about. The plan for the US Open and tennis getting back in there some events this week. We were talking about the Patrick. marauded lose event, and the Charleston ended in of course everything blew up metaphorically and I. Guess You could say in a sense literally with news from from the Balkans this weekend which we probably timestamped us, we are speaking on. What is today Wednesday morning the right as cracked. So we are seventy two hours into this Kindly, call it a narrative I spoken a lot about this. I've written about this I will say before we can talk. Specifics I'm very surprised at the stem, and this is really world news. I mean I was getting calls. From Aljazeera the BBC and then I just Mary. Carillo is on MSNBC Today. Mean is really become much more than tennis story. For better worse I would argue worse, but this really has been. The kind of story had ripples beyond the the sport and beyond sports period I think a lot of people are. Sort of trying to figure out how we eat back to normal I think we're trying to see I think we're starting to see some real. Sort of disparities in countries, and even here in the United States with how this is not only being managed, and not only with the data says, but just in terms of philosophy, so I think this is the story of really found its way into into a much broader story, and this has become absolutely world news. I mean this is as big as a ten stories we've had since there's been a match and I guess what why don't we just start there? I, mean Jamie. Let's start with. Top Line Impressions of the Adria Tour Novak Djokovic in the last seventy two hours. Yeah you're right to say that tennis exhibitions don't normally get this much press. I think it's always a funny thing with antennas. When people you know who aren't as familiar with the sport, they see results from from an Axa, whether it's early in the year late in the year, and you know somebody, beat, someone, and most people just sort of shrug it off, but it's as you said really interesting to see how much this has really gone across the world. World and everyone is talking about it and rightfully, so because this is a big issue in I think it was from the Gecko, when we started to see the photos and the videos of everything that was happening between the hugging and everything that was happening on the court, and then of course everything that was happening all off the court. All of those images in those photos are really going to be the mark of this event of this tournament. And jovovich whether or not he deserves all of the blame or not will also be the face of this issue for a long time coming he is the organizer of this event of course, and also the oldest in terms of the players that was there and for me. That was something that you know. He really needed to use his his advantage, and the the younger players thereof and born Cora and others even Dmitrov for what it's worth. You know are are younger than him. They look up to him and for him to invite these players to come to this tournament in for him to organize this in the way that he did end to have the results that we had is just It's not great, and I wish that the best tennis player you know the number one in the world right now had thought a little bit more about how he was exposing all these people. It's unsafe conditions and took a little bit more time to think about how what the results and the repercussions of this could have been. Yeah I mean I think no-one covered themselves in glory. I mean there's already been a lot of finger. Pointing joke of its father have having moved on from from fettered. Baby is now pointing fingers at Dmitrov as the culprit, I mean this is just ugly stuff I. Mean I think we ought to pause here in and say we do hope everyone makes. A speedy and easy recovery as as nick, curious I wrote. Nick curious turned into the the Wiseman of tennis Munich. curios thoughts on all of this have been. A lot more reasonable and responsible than anyone else's and the nick curious very rightly says this virus is not a joke, so. Go further. Let's be clear. We hope everybody makes a a quick recovery from virus that we know you know. Six figures over is can be fatal. having said all that I think I mean it's sort of interesting in the grand scheme of things, people who are casual fans or not even sports fans at all. This is hubris recklessness, and here's this athlete who somehow has been living in. Sick enough bubble so that he doesn't realize it. You can pass this on other people and hey. Viruses are really contagious and things like masks really work
The Gabrovo Museum of Humor, Bulgaria
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"balkan" Discussed on FT World Weekly
"I'm getting Rochman today, we're looking at the Balkans, an area that dominated international attention twenty years ago after the wars in Bosnia and Kossovo. But it slipped from the headlines in recent years. Joining me to discuss the region, and at some certain prospects are the T euro penatta, Ben home, an Fokin correspondent, Valerie Hopkins. Ben the F T this morning described the Balkans as the most volatile region in Europe. Why would he say that? Because historically, it has been a region that has been full tired of by competing power blocks. You know, the ultimate empire the Austro-Hungarian empire the Russian empire and that has left kind of overlapping, national, and ethnic and religious divisions. And we are still living with the legacy of that, and sort of overlaid by an incomplete transition to democracy and the rule of law after communism and. Then probably on top of all of that you have corruption. It's deeply rooted. So Ben before we continue. Let's just define the region. How big is it? And how significant so we're talking about the western Balkans region roughly twenty million people about the population of the Netherlands, but with a really tiny economy, about the size of Slovakia's. And we're talking about Serbia Montenegro Bosnia Herzegovina Albania, north Macedonia, and Kosovo, of course. So it's a pretty small number of people with a pretty small combined GDP. It's not significant, but it's always been a source of instability as we've known for the last century. Valerie, Ben referred to this as a kind of incomplete process and some of the countries in the regions, maybe all of them have hurt. The delta Modeste nation will be joining the EU I'm thinking, particularly of north Macedonian Albanian, but they're finding very hard. Yes. Well, that's true. They've been hoping to join but also the e u has been hoping for them to join I mean for the first time this was articulated in two thousand three in there. I e you some. In Thessaloniki, all of the countries of the western Balkans were promised a credible path to accession we're given unequivocal support from the Member States and one year ago after north miss Adonia and underwent quite comprehensive changes north Macedonia, to its name, and two other reforms and L Bainian committing to a very onerous judicial reform were promised that they would get a green light this year. And as we saw yesterday that decision was punted again, for a couple of months, at least until October and from their point of view, how much of a disastrous. Well, it's quite a big disaster. I mean, enormous Adonia which recently changed its name in order to end a decades long conflict with Greece over their name, which Athens believed implied territorial desire over the Greek region of the same name, the whole public support for the agreement and public support for the government is riding on the guarantees towards progress towards the EU that are written into that. So north Macedonia, has moved forward in terms of its NATO membership. Several countries, I think, have already ratified the NATO accession protocol for them. But, you know, the European Union membership is what the public really wants and at a certain point, it may become untenable for the leaders of the country to stay in power if they can't deliver on what was promised them, and that would be a disaster for them. And for Europe. Yeah. Mean Ben you've been pretty critical of the youth decision. What's the argument for saying the eaves being sources that it had a unique? Novo paternity to put these two countries move firmly on the path of judgement. EU rules values and sort of binding them into the EU orbit, we have to remember that sort of enlargement process. If you just put aside the various problems that we've experienced over the is in the grand sweep of history. It's been a remarkable success for the EU it stabilized the region, it's brought prosperity and it's dissolved the division between eastern western Europe and the argument just to recap for those who don't totally recall took the EU from what fifteen countries to now. Twenty eight to twenty eight. Yeah. And so, in argument is probably the most effective European Union foreign policy, and it has helped put countries on the right path, and stabilize democracy and promote reform and promote the rule of law. But perhaps there are now plenty of people in the EU think we've reached the end of that process and the legacy problems from previous enlargements have come back to haunt the EU. Maybe the enlargement the accession process was not rigorous. Enough. And so now there are plenty of people who are having second thoughts about it. Yeah. And I mean just to play devil's advocate, I suppose if you are European politician, you will say, well, sure the future of these countries matters, but as he was saying Elliott's twenty million people in the, you have the rise of populists across Europe and places like France, the Netherlands, Britain's voted for Brexit. And it doesn't appear that accession to countries like, oh, near is popular. So perhaps that wise, not to do it quite possibly. But I mean, I think the calculation has to be how long can you keep these countries on the path to accession without ever actually giving them accession at the end of the day? And that solvency something that the EU has tried with Turkey and it's backfired arguably spectacularly, although you could also blame premise, Erta one, perhaps originally topper one for the kind of backsliding in democracy, and the sort of drift away from the European mainstream, in Turkey, but I mean that is clearly the calculation it would be good for Europe if. If Albany could be put on the path to membership even if it never actually meets the criteria to join fully, and you mentioned Obama. Valerie back from there. Give us a description of where the country is in terms of its economy, and its politics because when I was growing up out, mania was like the most isolated place. It was North Korea Europe. And the idea that it might even be close to joining the paean union in some ways, seems miraculous. Well, indeed, it is. And it's quite far off. But I think, you know, to build on what Ben said many Member States have grown tired of the process and have learned that they need to impose further and further restrictions. We see that many of the countries that have joined in recent decades still have problems with their judicial systems. So we're talking countries like Romania Bulgaria, yes, Hungary. If I may say, so the conditions and the demands that Brussels and the Member States have made on countries, which are hoping to join have actually become much more onerous Albania, my story that I did while I was in Toronto was about the extremely onerous. Writing process that all judges, and prosecutors are being subjected to which has left. The country's supreme court with only two judges. One of them I think is being vetted this week. So it may have only one judge so far, only one judge survived because the two tional court, I believe, has only one judge, which is actually quite stabilizing, on the political. See now as the parliament has moved to impeach the president for calling early elections. And no one in the court can judge on this. I don't wanna get too deep into their politics. But I would like to say to that Albanian has also accepted to host the first FrontEx mission FrontEx being the US Border police agency because during the two thousand fifteen migrant crisis, the EU sort of realized woke up and remembered that actually all of these countries in the Balkan route are inside of Europe that if you have weak states week, police weakens to, to Sion's at that will have consequences for the security and safety of the rest of the block. So there should be more interest in improving those institutions and the best way to do it all. Of the academic work that's been done in the Balkans shows that the carrot of enlargement, and of a real credible accession path is the best way to inspire reforms, but how is the economy doing? And how connected is opening to the rest of Europe, now compared to those days of isolation. I mean silly, anecdote but, you know, I come across our Bainian in London now buildings around the corner. So to some extent, they seem to have been integrated little bit. Well, absolutely. I mean, quite a significant portion of Albanians left the country in the nineties jobs, better opportunities. And I think it's rare to meet now lenient who doesn't speak at least two or three languages. But now, people are coming back business ties between mania and especially Italy, Switzerland UK are very strong and the economy's growing, I think actually in the Balkans. The economies are growing much faster than the EU average about four five percent. They still have a long way to go to catch up, but there's quite a lot of vitality and what about this issue of organized crime, which is thrown at all the countries in the Balkans. But I think particularly. Albania for those sitting in Brussels or elsewhere, saying, do we really want country in that condition inside the EU, how serious is the problem? Well, it is a serious problem. And it you know, it also goes to show that again you can't separate the Balkans. Even with the Albania or north as Donio, anyone not being inside of the EU criminals will always find a way to engage in their activity. It seems to me in some of my discussions with police dodges prosecutors that sometimes this threat is overblown. For instance, the Dutch parliament, several weeks ago passed a Bill asking their government to withdraw visa-free travel for all Baynes, dude organised crime. And then when you go and inject a Dutch officials, they say actually, this is not necessarily for violent crime. A lot of people are trying to get on both. Maybe they're trying to come to the UK but actually they're not necessarily being arrested for trafficking in drugs, or persons Ben turning to the other country. We were talking about north Macedonia that I suppose, makes the point that this is also still an issue. To some extent, war and peace. I mean they had extremely tense relations with Greece for sometime. Yes. They have done over the dispute over the name after the collapse of the former Yugoslavia. And that, of course, has prevented Macedonia, north Macedonia is now 'cause integration into the Atlantic community, the NATO. So I mean, it really was a huge that Ford when Zorn's Iovan Alexis, it press the Greek premier achieve this deal, and it still highly contentious in Greece. And we have a general election next month in Greece, where you are likely to see the return of a center, right? New democracy led government and new democracy has been very, very critical of the naming deal with north Macedonia. It remains to be seen whether they will actually go as far as to block their entry, but I suspect Athens will be a lot less accommodating in the future than it has been over the last couple of years. And if I recall correctly at the time, there was some evidence, which the Cyprus government acted on the Russian espionage Intel. Emergence agencies trying to stoke up opposition to the north Macedonia settlement does that raise. Also, I suppose a subsidiary issue, but crucial one which affects Europe's judgment, which is that to the extent that this area is not integrated with the rest of the EU becomes the sort of floating space..
"balkan" Discussed on MonsterTalk
"Carpathian mountains and all the including cities like Vulcan sees like clues ri- live Mata mortis Radja and Braun in that area goes up the Carpathians. So this area didn't become part of Romania until after one this was part of various Habsburg empires, and it was very much fought over. So yes, it does. Yes. Pretty much all the land. There has fought over to the very day in varying degrees. But yes, so does exist the southern part of the Laci. That's where Dracula was from two quick more stories, if it's okay. Yeah. To real quick ones. So you have in your Russian live Russian influences. You have your baba yoga, which is your version of a witch like creatures you brought up, and so you know, she is both good and evil. She's like a kind of like something out of a Grimm's fairytale almost. She is neither good nor evil, but she's can be indifferent. She'll eat you or can help you. It all really depends. And then you have if you know of American gods. You have charter bog audience story. Yep. So charter bog is a Slavic being a black God in in Russian. It is still there. Turn a bogus. So you have the black God supposedly, he fought his brother the white God. And was wear your day and night came from and your winter. And your summer and they battled each other through the year. And so yes, this is where with American gods. He gets the tradition of China. Bog nice. Yeah. That's a that's a great book from Neil Gaiman lens into western Balkan tradition. He's all you'll hear people still talk down parts of like Madore Macedonian Serbian people talk about the black God as like a curse, you know. So Bobby yoga as a as a folklore figure? What what how would you describe her role? Does she have any sort of counterpart in western Europe? That are we're kind of figure is she sees a forest spirit almost she is a witch like creature. She's not human. She is a spirit of the woods. She's now the good, Noor evil sees assisting. She can help you or hinder U eight you or helping bringing great wealth. But she is like it almost seems like something Grimm's fairytales when he read the stories about Bobby yoga, but she'll walk around in like a bird like creature, you know, mechanical like wooden like creature moves to the forest. So you hear various different tales about her. It can be very vigorous yet, we talked. She has like she's a human with. She has bird feet, right? Excuse me. Yes. You can exactly on the version. We were talking about moth man with Richard Hatem. He mentioned. Some actual sort of criticize will logical sightings of people with bird legs, which I thought was right. Really interesting. Right. I'm wondering, you know. I think she also has her house moves around. It reminds me of the house in house moving castle in. Absolutely. Yeah. I assumed that that was related has some I've I'm sure it'd probably does I don't know for certain. But I'm sure there's probably some connection. But if anyone has seen it watches such a fantastic movie. Oh, golly. Yeah. Yeah. It sure is. Yeah. That one is often general all the studios you've stuff is. You know like that one in prisons mono- gnocchi, Chris not nothing to do with Europe. But it is very cool movie, actually, polka Roseau, pork rose. It was about the Adriatic Italy in deals with the Balkans and former Yugoslavia so I recommend during the kingdom of Yugoslavia times and fascist Italy. If you want for people who haven't seen, pork rose, I highly recommend it. If best cartoons about aviation pigs. Pigs takes fly. Yes. Well, they do. Increase. We have the final question that we wanna ask you that we like to ask all of against. What's your favorite monster? Uh-huh. One of my favorites. I love you guys in this. So for me, I like the more at home Lor actually getting away from the Balkans here. So being from the the mid-atlantic area. We have the Snell Augusta snug ice. Yes. Quick the quick ghost. It is born out of your German immigrants to move to western Maryland, western Pennsylvania in West Virginia and Virginia, and they talked about this odd creature that will lift people up at nights like bird, like a pterodactyl ish short creature with a we're off to plus like tongue and it will people from their homes at night and kidnap them..
"balkan" Discussed on MonsterTalk
"Your essence, they'll drink your blood. They'll come after their family members, they'll tack their villages. It really depends. And so, of course, I think we should talk about of course. The Dracula the most famous vampire of them all who was not really a vampire so loud drunk willia-. The named Rockwood means little dragon or little devil, depending on context to Druk the took the name from his father who was also by the name of drug who'll drop who basically meaning drag nor devil, and it comes from the old holy Roman empire. And it was the order given to him because he was protecting Christendom. I Europe from those evil Ottoman empire Turks and so. Who bringing Islam through the region in? So Dracula was raised as necessary or Janice Harrison will say it has Jaanus area and the Turkish and Balkan and it's basically in the beginning. It was a feared group of Christian boys who are kidnapped from their homes across the region and brought to what is now eastern booed, then called Constantinople fun fact eastern bul on the side means to the city in Greek. So basically, he went back to Valencia. This is before there's ever Romania the name remained. He doesn't come back until around the eighteen fifties. So he comes back, and he defends his small kingdom, and he later dies in battle. And yes, he was very well feared you'll hear a lot of folklore tales of people who will tell you. Yes. He would leave a gold chalice out in the streets, and people would never touch it because they're afraid they basically be sent to death because of the touched this child's there was to be. Fear in the land, essentially, you know, no one would ever do anything, you know, malevolent to each other. So this is the beginning of a lot of your will become later, your modern dictatorships in the region is this is what they call avoid as your Princess. And so dropped hula, basically. Yes, he was the Impaler and the term in Romanians chip pests, and but this became his monitor particularly in the old older. I'm an empire. This is where you'll see the image of him drinking blood and is where see him feasting before the corpses. He didn't drink blood in short. He was ruthless as they all were back, then and he did impale people, particularly those who broke the laws raise of reasons and your autumn in Turks, and he repelled Sutan Meraj from entering into. What is now Romania and into central Europe into the gates of the holy Roman empire of the time. So he was. A major protector. The story start coming about laters him being a no street way a vampire because he was decapitated and supposedly came back from the grave with that. But you'll find in a lot of your Romanian lore that a vampire can be defeated. Basically by decapitating ahead. Running a stake through the heart boiling, the heart in somebody's afflicted drinking it, and this is where maybe sound familiar like with the mercy Brown case law. This got reshuffled in and into western European tradition. Well, how do all this get into that? Well, a lot of comes back from live your western Europeans in the seventeen hundreds in your eighteen hundreds making trips into the region, and they would hear, you know, their translators, or, you know, or whatnot these stories, and so you have these famous cases like conserve you of the pale. Poverty of basically, a high Duke is a marauder this bandit who dies and unpleasant death. And he comes back to attack a village in Ottoman Serbia. And so you have your holy Roman slash Austrian empire coming through their troops in their starting to push through this area. So they're bringing their ideas of what they've heard mixing in with what they're hearing or ports that they're hearing in this starts to get this weird blended vampire story, we're going from the ugly vampire that is coming from the grave as a corpse or a spirit of some sorts tacking, your essence, attacking, you know, your life too. Well, they start becoming very attractive. Start meeting. Your Camilla's being written your Byron start writing about vampires at time. And of course, Chris Brown's Stoker tonight seven and taking various different bits in law. He's hearing about an Austrian Archduchess you have your tale Roosevelt battery or Elizabeth bathroom as non Hungarian would say the vampire, clean vs. He had quite the skin regimen..
"balkan" Discussed on MonsterTalk
"I don't know. Because a lot of times we rely on the news stories to come out. If the news stories are being suppressed by unfair unfree or government controlled media. Who knows? So what what's your take on that? I mean like it was the region fairly stable during Soviet control. Are we were just ignorant of the conflict cook question? So I would say I'll start from this is that people go back, and I understand I used to think this to people go back to it's still some conflict ridden, I would say for the last decade. It is the most stable time in the Balkans history right now, and while there are ethnic tensions, and unfortunately conflict could arise is become far less likely in part because of law diplomatic efforts in part because of the European Union in part because of regional integration is growing. It's it's very very thankful though. There are still hot spots for Europe's time at European Union in general in Europe in general, it is still the least, you know, cohesive part of your. And so that does driveway some business, and unfortunately does continue some of the tensions and you'll particularly find that right now your biggest tensions are countries like Bosnia-Herzegovina, which is very ethnically. Religiously and store and politically divided north Macedonia in Greece still with the name issue and regional issues. And of course, the issue with Kosovo in Serbia, which continues to this very day where Serbia still recognizes coastal as part of it, even though close to a half of the world would say Kosovo is an independent country. And because of the genocide in I would argue in maybe without offending any Serbian viewers or listeners Costa, VO went through massive genocide. And it cannot be piece together back with survey like that so Kosovo is an independent country, and it should be given this system too needs for that. But in general in terms of conflict, basically, a lot of your major conflicts for this region. Go back to the. Eighteen seventies through eighteen nineties in early. Nineteen hundreds Albanian was the last to be created in nineteen twelve lawyer originals like Romania in Bulgaria formed in eighteen seventies. Basically as the Russians the British the French start seeing weaknesses with the Ottomans to lesser degree with the Russians after the Crimean war of the fifty Dan roller one comes about, and you have your Balkan wars before that nineteen twelve nineteen thirteen and then you have nineteen thirties and forties with over two and the region, basically can thirty eight is sold off to the Germans, basically after Munich, and the Germans in detail. Ian, basically take full advantage and basically create into colonies or puppet states in this way. See a lot of your ethnic conflicts occur. There's areas of genocide that occurred during this time, this is where he have master partition of Jews holocaust from this region. Elliott Zell, you know, the name a news deported. He was from Romania in inclusion where I used to go to school, and he was deported from that area, and you had completing competing different regimes competing for different. Territories. And with the Soviet Union is it's very easy to look at a book from the time. I was fascinated with this looking back in high school in highschool. You'll see pictures of the Cold War, and you have east and west. It was not this simple. The Soviet Union itself was incredibly divided built on in old czarist Russian system. That was a prison house of nations, and you had competing different groups within competing ethnic groups all being torn apart enthroned ground with each other. And so basically the Soviets Wedneday moved into what is now the Balkans region and a lot of central Europe. They basically put that system in place. So they took a bunch of all monarchies and week republics in dictatorships and just replace them with their versions of dictatorship. And a lot of them were very shaky from the beginning and didn't already start to seal up until the nineteen sixties and seventies. By this point, the world is changing around them. And so by the nineteen eighties and early nineties all these systems basic collapsed. And this is where he started seeing a lot of issues with Yugoslavia Romania nearly burst a pieces because it is actually very ethnically diverse as well. And he's all minor strife in Bulgaria Albania went into a civil war in the nineteen Ninety-seven time over money and a pyramid schemes..
"balkan" Discussed on MonsterTalk
"But ideally would love to move back to Europe again. So that's my main focuses particularly on the and he goes, so so so you were basing miles that's going to say, well, there's that are you saying that you basically were a vampire hundred for the State Department is that. Tonight. To mazdas. There's something wrong with the nobody could serve two masters. I read that in the bible. Right. Exactly. Well, I'm also looking at maybe doing a PHD. So particularly again, it'll be on eastern Europe. I just can't seem to get away from the area. So this is probably a stereotypical of Americans. But you know, a lot of this may not know much about the Balkan regions. I mean outside of the, you know, I remember some news stories about some kind of conflict or something. But the. What is the Balkan region because that's not really a country. What what is that the bogans is a great question to start with? I always try to explain to people think of where Italy is if you can picture Italy as the boot. And if he can try think for greases it's in that area. So you're talking about a Mediterranean culture with the Adriatic around eight Adriatic Sea in the union sees so it's also rounded by the Black Sea. And he can think of maybe rush on a map, the actual Balkan location. Technically is in Bulgaria and very very extreme eastern Serbia. It's where the Balkan mountain ranges where the name comes from a regionally lauded this area goes back to well, really the Roman empire. There was about seventeen different Roman emperors from the Balkans region, including mostly from what else Serbia, and you had a particularly focused in the time of the Byzantines, even though they would never call themselves that they would call themselves eastern Roman empire. And they were battled. The Sarah's battle. Back and forth and tossed around because it had a lot flat paintings, and it has a lot of not really high mountains don't think of like the Alps or the Rockies. These are pretty mountains. Look apper easy to get over and this area stretches through what used to be the former Yugoslavia this area stretches towards out Romania Bulgaria, and it gets really big euless because some clued Hungary in that area include Greece in this area include Turkey in this area. But for the general history overall is that up until about the later seventeen hundreds this area was known as a Turkey in Europe. Because a lot of air is part of the Ottoman empire. The Habsburg empire and the Rahmonov empires, and it Dan by eighteen hundreds name Balkan came about because a lot of your western explorers. Like George Byron. And what else not started going there and writing down that stories they've heard or this area has this. And this group is there, and you get all these various different democ. Traffic tater, that's really some good and some pretty terrible that team back, and it became part of the western beliefs and by Wilbur one right before one, and then, of course, into the nineties, everyone thinks of the implosion of Yugoslavia, and unfortunate Balkans is become a very negative term. So I prefer to say southeastern Europe. But for general audience, I will say the Balkans. Does this include? Did you say Romania? Yes. So I'll give you the countries of generally where let's say big is the Balkans. Are let's just give you country. Let's much as pecan. So you got the former Yugoslavia which includes Slovenia Croatia, Bosnia Herzegovina Montenegro Serbia Kosova slash pulsa Vode, pending on who you ask and Macedonia renaming itself north Macedonia. Yeah. It's usually. Yeah. Exactly. Which is fascinating case in itself, and you have Albanian which always been independent since nineteen twelve then yet Greece then you have both. Guerrier Romania and some include Hungary in there some include Moldova, but I try not to because you could also attend including Ukraine in there because part of it Judson to the area but Ukraine Moldova because they're not into European Union as some of these other countries in the western Balkans. Are I clued as more is eastern Europe in turkeys and big US because we're east on bul is that is technically in Europe but Turkey straddles across into Asia's, well as name Asia, Minor Anatolia, and I'm looking at work, and I'm looking at Cambridge actually do my PHD and I'm looking at their programs..
"balkan" Discussed on KQED Radio
"To the village were seeing things we never saw before in a way that could make us believe that this anger from god on the village in its people muhammed says fishermen here have to go further and further route to catch big fish he's he just be worth of water is brown for a few hundred feet before turns gloom that's where the c covered what used to be there earth hamad's says last year the winds were so strong boats were tossed from the water up onto the road he says he doesn't know of climate changes to plain i can only tell you what i see says the reality i'm living it jana raff npr news on the nile delta you may not see tied eyes and bellbottoms there but the locals call it the woodstock of serbia hundreds of thousands come each year to celebrate balkan rasmi is a at the good chuck trumpet festival this is the brass band of boy on restage his orchestra one best orchestra at last year's festival they'll be onstage tonight as other trumpet masters compete in a musical balkan battle we got an audio diary of the festivities from a go vata's she's an american musician her parents play traditional greek folk music and she grew up going every summer to a balkan music camp in california this year she's made her first pilgrimage to go chappell gooch has kind of a small town there's a river that runs directly straight up and down it's a pretty dirty river it's filled with trash and then there's mountains it's like a big bowl their mouths all around big green mountain's and then gooch has just a small little town right in the middle the bowl fake pretty we walked through the whole town on the first night on the left side his guide rows and rows of cafes little kiosks where he can bite beer restaurants for crepe sin whatever street food told the same though meet in to pretty much all you can find here there's drunk folks climbing on statues romani brass bands must be on the street trying to make the buck all the bands were performing our parading through the streets one after the other all folding little size of what village there from from my end is hard to even hear the difference to distinguish who's playing whiten.