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"Could be somebody that purposefully did so it could be somebody that Isa out in the street, shooting heroin and has overdosed and gets fentanyl. That's the bulk of it. The other the other large segment about it is Polly used, meaning somebody's using opiates plus than those of today as the pain's, like Xanax or something like that, or alcohol. That's common alcohol and heroin. So it's the aggregate of all of those things. I've told the story before, and I'll keep it brief, just for the For the sake of our conversation, so I venture to open heart surgeries myself. In 2009 and 2012. In between those I I had an infected hematoma in my side. I say that because during those those course of those three or four years and during those instances, you know, I was put on You know, on prescription pain, medication and going through the second open heart surgery, and towards the end of that I became very I became close to addicted getting the prescription pain medication to the point where when I actually was running out. Of of the pain medication. I never had felt that way in my life, and it was the most unnerve ing feeling I ever had not having those drugs anymore access to those drugs. Even over a short period of time to the point where I just felt like I could never be happy again. And you know, over the course of a few weeks that changed, But it opened my eyes to individuals who self medicate whether it's alcohol or whether his drug abuse is And how nefarious and how seductive it is, even to an individual who's not looking to self medicate. I was looking at pain management. My body just became accustomed to it. Your during a pandemic, and when you're scared, A lot of people are self medicating. And that's that's essentially what we're talking about with this right individuals that are seeking some sort of some sort of relief from the the day today news that they were experiencing Well, yeah, we've never quarantined the healthy that this is something that you and and it's sort of strange, really worldwide. Um and ah, when you take healthy people, otherwise healthy people, you know, they might have a drug problem, but there otherwise healthy and then you sequester them and and they can't work. So you're basically your mission in life. Your structure is altered completely. And you like getting high, You know, there's a certain amount people get high because they do have a preference for and you know that that sort of combination in our culture is problematic and other cultures believe it or not. They don't equate stress or anxiety or depression with drug use, so they don't have the problem. And we dio we have Ah, very recovery centered culture, so because of the way we see and view drugs That's the unintended consequences increased use when we add stress loneliness. A lack of income, those sorts of things we do self medicate, but again, other cultures that don't believe in self medication Don't and so as a researcher. I think it's important to say that But we can choose this even in a pandemic one way or the other. The book is the model of her addictions, escaped the treatment in recovery, track or trap and we're talking with Marc Charron double back just for a second. I wanna go down this road for a minute talk about the differences in the cultures. Ah, and how they treat that that that idea of self of self medicating cause this is the This is one of the first times I've ever heard that that that Our use of of alcohol or recreational drugs and correct me if I'm if I'm misinterpreting this is viewed differently than it isn't in other countries. Can you go down that road just for a moment? Oh, sure, sure. Yeah. Most people don't know that. I'll give you a small example in Italy or France. They drink more per capita at a younger age. And yet they don't have the problems. We have. Same genetics, you know, because we're predominantly Ah, our genes come from Europe. And yet they don't. They don't have the incidence rate of violent method. Violence, depression, They don't have any of it. And yet per capita they drink younger and more. Um And there's many cultures like that. Then you have the Irish and the Germans who drink about the famous US and they have a similar problem. The only difference is an invisible boundary, right? And so what happens is the view of the culture is what drives addiction. It's how we frame a physical high and Ah, and it's the belief that drive it and that's what the whole freedom modeled it talks about and how to move on from those Sort of beliefs. Those constructs that we've developed in our culture. Tell me there's a correlation here in her AA number of years ago doing this show talking about there was there was some studies done of I believe it was college age drinking and the The allowing of younger people to drink in an earlier age and de stigmatizing alcohol at an earlier age was actually having a positive impact on the future. Is this the kind of thing that we're that we're talking about? That's exactly it. That's exactly it again. We can point to Europe where they're they're drinking norms are kids. They're taught to drink in social settings with adults, Andi, even though they drink a lot, And even though they're drunk, they don't behave poorly. Um, and then you have our college culture where we have what in research circles is called the license to misbehave. So we can act crazy, right? We can have the frat party and go nuts because culturally, that's what we believe Alcohol does to us. Even though really? It's just a perspective on how we color a physical buzz. Um, yeah, So our cultural views are what died, whether there's an addiction or whether there isn't And and it has almost nothing to do with genetics. As it's not a disease. It really is. The way we view it. Talking with Marc Charron again. The Freedom model for Addiction is his book. Let's Spin this back around to covert. I'm curious. From your angle on your perspective in having written this this book, and you also cofounded the other Baldwin Research Institute on Deacon Get into that, too, in talking about the 12 step programs and models for drug and alcohol problems here in America, But I'd like to just get sort of your perspective when the pandemic started. And we began the lock down measures. Was was there anything was Was there a viewpoint on urine from your perspective and your expertise where you were watching what was happening and sort of mentally reading the tea leaves with a level of concern about what could happen and how much of that may have come to fruition. Yeah, well, let me just say that one of the things that my skill set is that I'm able to see trends when they when they happen, and ah I knew because because addiction is so centered in our culture around strapped And the relief of it this belief that that it actually pharmacologically relieves stress relieves anxiety and.