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OITNB Episode 26: "Battle of Ohio" (Feat. Quincy Carrier)

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43:43 min | 11 months ago

OITNB Episode 26: "Battle of Ohio" (Feat. Quincy Carrier)

"Welcome to the Orange is the new black podcast. I'm your host as Boogie. My Co host them who they is here as well as they don't say what's up. How's it going people and we have a special guest on today? I was so glad that we were able to get him on as you guys know. I'm at new sitting on Youtube. I had to bring all my man quincy of worst. Take give us a browns inside of I love hearing do talk about the browns. We've been on several rows. Hey was before each other so it was only right quincy let them know where they can find yourself man. What is up guys? Thank you for having early on You'd find my stuff on Youtube. Just search quincy carrier you. I see why C. A. R. A. are on Youtube Search Bar. You'll see a bunch of videos. I've put up You'll see a picture of me looking surprise hit described by next to that great content for Browns fans but also just a fan. NFL Football and talk about a lot of just general NFL. Football is well we do it all. We have fun And I think I've put out a good product occur taken up. Yeah definitely check it out but then I know we're bringing him all of the browns week so go ahead and ask this man some questions about the Cleveland browns. Yeah well well well Mr Brown here we are. I WanNa thank you again for coming on the show. Everybody are you where they can Find that whether it be on twitter I went to the plug that again. Just people you know miss that You can follow me on Instagram at worst underscore take on twitter. I know it's all supposed to be uniform but I forgot to do it. on twitter. You can follow me at Quincy K. W. E. N. underscores e In Youtube again this actual actual name Quincy carrier. It's the best way to find me on there 'cause some name B. Cells who covers the NBA also has a serious call worth taking these more popular than we so take time. Today we will level we will overtake the guy that I've never heard of. So this is the start of this. I wanted to say that before. We even beginning before the season when I was pretty much I wasn't on the Super Bowl Grocery and I'm still on the brand strain because of one guy named Baker Baker Baker Mayfield so this day I still stand behind Baker Mayfield as we are at this point in the season. How do you feel about Baker Mayfield because to me? It all starts with the quarterback you feel. Like that's a big proponent of winning or how you feel about I am overall overall I feel like Baker Mayfield is playing like somebody who's going to be a good quarterback and NFL. He's just in his second year. I'm Ed I think one of the mistakes that the browns made and I think a lot of people made including myself is that we thought that Baker Mayfield was going to be ready to make this Patrick mahomes level jump or this Lamar Jackson level jump in year. Two and he hasn't been able to do ooh that they giving them more responsibility. They've put a lot of stuff in his hands and you know he's not ready or at that point in his career where he can overcome on some of the things that he's had to overcome in order to be great in that way You know so in that way yes. He has has disappointed but like onto but then it gets to a level with a lot of people where they WANNA go and call him a bust or say say all kind of like wild things about him and I just don't think that's true on that and either I think acres going to be very good quarterback. He's all I think he's GonNa be you know anywhere from Top Ten to top five kind of friends do in the League And I think he's going to have a very long good career. NFL does he have some problems. That I worry about. Of course. He can be streaky with his accuracy. Like when he's on his freakishly accurate but sometimes he can just be head-scratching Lee off target and that drives you a little nuts sometimes. Yeah his decision making. He's GONNA be risky. But you knew that when you draft it Baker Mayfield draft. Somebody gets compared to breast SARS in expect him Throw check downs all the time. So I don't get back criticism of him but you know the one thing. I will say with Baker that I have noticed route his career and even in his early Parson. NFL career do feel like it's going to become a bigger storyline next year in the years upcoming when he's playing better football with better teams and bigger moments is I have noticed in. This is speaking browns fan that even at Oklahoma Oh Mama He has not been that dude in the final. Dry like Shawn Watson or even like Andrew Luck has and I I do worry about that sufficiency getting in the way As he continues on you know now. There are a lot of great quarterbacks who are really known for those great moments. But you know those. Are we do decide a lot about what you know. What's the difference between how we look at Philip rivers and Eli Manning in some people's is a hall of fame level winning and losing for sure? Yeah and that. That is something that I do worry about and I do worry that it's going to become a legitimate talking point with Baker Mayfield in the future but I do think he's going to be around. It'd be a topic in this league for the next ten fifteen years for sure standpoint. I guess I'm I'm looking at it from the outside and coming from where you guys were in a certain Baker Mayfield into now. I think the expectation levels are grown into a whole new level in thick for me. I'm a little bit more pay with the quarterback position in that regard especially early on so to me. He's all right where in line where thought he'd probably be. I thought you would probably get more production for some of the the key spots around him. Maybe maybe we speak on that. Do you feel like there could possibly be utilizing obese day. You think they properly utilized one thing that they don't talk about to the injury in joke with his demi. Yeah Yeah nobody brings that up right Hispanic David Joseph Number one tight end in the guy who was supposed to be. You know I did a video in the off. off-season saying that there were two things that could hold this offense back offenses line in David and joking not developing into a top. I Dan I thought those were the two things that we're going to hold this offense back and those are the two things that have helped this offense back If you look at what. Kansas City does and how they overwhelm folks when they had Sammy Watkins and and and I can't believe I'm blanking on his name. But he's one of the best receivers. Nfl Oh tie retail but you know when they had the private Chelsea was a huge part met. Why wouldn't you ever you watch teams games Eh? Patrick Malls is never going into tight window. Because that is the thing that puts the offense in over the tipping point and you know David Joke who has not been out there and I think that has been a huge thing. Because he's the only dude that's big enough also in that wide receiving corps when you have Jarvis Landry and Odell. How's your main two receivers? They're not big guys. Who can you know muscle immense zone incomplete? Some of these guys get some of these tough I mountains you know like the heat. It's all the little stuff there that's really been hurt and just awful. 'cause yeah and it's like if you look at the big stuff like the big picture overall like like we can say how bad Odell Beckham is but it's really a testament to how good his profolio is is that this is going to break two thousand yards. This season and people are going to talk about him. Like He. Just like like Randy Moss and and Like you know and it's like what we didn't where we talk about. Oh we don't talk about some of the things that he brings just by being down That helps the offense Jarvis. Landry is going to have a career year this year. He's already at nine hundred. Nineteen yards five touchdowns You know he's finally getting recognized as one of the better. Why receivers in the League? Well he's not finally but he's getting more respect is one of the receivers in the League of and that's all because they'll get him more open than it used to be these last sure. That wasn't the case with Jarvis and then also you'd have to look at like let's say on. Mars leaves doing the New York now without the presence of Odell Beckham. He's average sixty yards per game on the Russian game. Now he's injured. Some people are blaming his offenses live which is wild. Because they won't give that excuse to the Cleveland Browns even though we traded assume our best offenses line. But that's a whole another topic for another day. Bring up a lot is that they feel like you traded off a line to go with talent obese. And that's Kinda. Let me that question to say like okay with that being stores are you properly utilizing lovie Jay because pets him getting three faith. Otherwise I think it's really important. Do you think there are probably utilizing them with the scheme. If you're on a trade often the land that is important to the opens originally see. I don't think trading Kevin Zeitler was as big as those people want it to be 'cause like yeah the problem with the browns offenses line and sure our replacement for Kevin Zeitler is not great But our real problem has been. We just haven't been able to have consistent tackle play at the right tackle position more than it has been with the right guard like if you watch the browns. A lot of what you see is past Russia's blowing past asper right tackle and sandwiches in them. Baker Mayfield's forcing him is a custom field in half and runs was right or left Or having some Russia throw in it gets tipped at the line of scrimmage and like intercepted or something like that those are the things that are killing the browns honestly and you know like cheap Kevin Zeitler like sure would have made a smaller difference. Yeah but like you know how much of a difference could make running back has over twelve thousand almost twelve hundred yards on the season in week. Fourteen you know like that's really what Kevin Zeitler was really good at. Was the run game run blocking and it's it's not really affected that. OJ Kinda takes a lot of attention and make it impossible to stack the boss. Especially Jarvis Landry on this. I saw like that. That's really what I area this game would be affected the most. And you know no Kevin Zeiler. Being there has not been impact has suspended tackles John John. Dorsey didn't value that position. Nothing's free agency to put some money there. Ask somebody and that's what's Nice this whole season and moving moving forward. I feel like that's one of the things that might hinder some of the progression along with the actual I looked at. I do paid cincy because if you going to a new direction which kind of leads me to my next question. Is this kitchen or any of the coordinators out than Baker will be on the sport. Oh coordinator are those. Things aren't taking into account but overall like when ace contacted me last week and we talked to on the show and we had Discussion about it. He walked away from this saying yeah. They're also the line is fast and that was. That was the number one thing that he said to me and so moving forward. It's hard to pay these guys guys that you guys have aids to fix the line at the same time. Yeah Yeah I just I think They need leaping probably just draft. Some Lyman I think that'd be like the short term solution. Like oh you bet you better hit right right in there. Let's whoa looking crazy like I totally. We will what Quincy and Sando about compiler. 'cause it's almost crazy because like then we come from like a similar situation where we kind of had the same issue right like we federal boy. A He had John Ralston. All of these guys like everybody says because it was only got. Aj Green John. Joe Big Fan like tyler hyper. Who's stuff these guys? And who ended up stopping the offensive line and I completely agree with Quincy about lately like I remember a lot of our fans being like. Oh should've never let wit and Zeitler go. I definitely felt the width thing. I didn't feel designer thing. Because they're like the officer line was still bad that last year Taylor was was there or whatever because right next to him with cedric. Oh boy he so. I can definitely sympathize with quincy because technical brady was complete garbage so it didn't matter whether Kevin Butler with next to him or not like those the ends like you say we're just killing him over the edge every single place so I think yeah I think when they traded Kevin Zeitler. I didn't I didn't think that that was bad for them. 'cause I think like you say issues are tackles and the reason that I said that that at the offense facet exactly what he said. I was watching that Pittsburgh game. Is We put some money on the browns. I'm like all right. I'm going to put the money on the browns here and man. I just saw like that dealer. They'll steelers defensive ends and pass rusher like Buzzer pre and TJ. Yeah no no no I have to get on. Their product is still definitely got better on defense but I saw it exactly were constantly saying because I was like man. I'm just sitting there waiting for Becker to like take over the Auberge to take over. 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How we got here and what the future might look like? The entire first season is out. Now find out more and binging on apple podcasts. Or your favorite podcast ask that. Yeah if you whenever they give Baker time now like even in the Pittsburgh game like when they gave hey from time he was able to set his feet make throat he was actually pretty good in that game. It just is. There's so many times you got fleshed out. Yeah yeah forced out or there's so much someone's ban offense of line play better tackling thought lovers all over the were right now. Because I'm GonNa tell you this you can say that you just find yourself. I'm just giving you a mental note right now. You've still staying at a gear. You got a problem. That was a thing where I was saying that to making it like. I'm just telling you what I thought. But then he got shot. Sales shot two years later. He's saying those and he's stuttering feet. You know how you're saying like if he comes up they're accurate that's exactly the dollar general and gets the puff he's thinking stuff is there is overthrow and destroy mainly undergoing but he goes through these different motions. But it didn't happen to to a couple of years the battle for the line early on the edge off of the line Baker ahead of online last year as well and I. That's why I said what. What do you think somebody's GonNa have to go? I think moving forward. Somebody's not going to be there. Because Free Agency will often reminds me based on the last five years thing they will saying. I don't have any faith in the draft or online because it's almost like a lost art owning as college teams get to spread offices when they get to the NFL. It's really hard. The guys just writing your face like Mike mcglinchey so so you gotta go get that money spending and that's the that's one of the biggest detriment to the bengals in the last year that they were cheating the free agency. It ain't no allow any is really really high on their own even last year with the first round draft pick billy price and they didn't hit. It says she back insane that we're sitting here with all of these weapons. I would argue that. We have more weapons than you if you combine all of these guys but I mean thing because you got a quarterback but now you gotta offers a line that is below average Yeah how good I know you're gonna before wonder some things that you think standing out that you think can improve. Do you think that you have sat. Maybe outside sat because I do think you guys do have the chance to handle business coming up this sentence but did you think you have any outside and they can play off in thin for if you don't make the playoffs if you are. Gm you on the clock. What is your plan? B Like SORTA playoffs are possibility to their technically. Not what kind of how I rotate role with that. But like I think you know winning in Pittsburgh last week would've gave the browns to had you know small opportunity to have after destiny in their own hand like essentially would just have to win every game. There would have been tough but that would have been you know a very tangible role for the play offs. Now you gotta hope for other things to happen in order for you to get in different tiebreakers and becomes it becomes almost impossible to project at this point if you're the browns there's really no point in losing at this point so you know it's pretty much just keep winning In England next year. Yeah finish nine and seven and see where you are at the end of the day That gets she went to. The playoffs is great. You know trying to win on a win. Are we getting that line here on the on the podcast. That Quincy and saying that you'RE GONNA to win out. I don't know man I. I don't trust this. I don't trust this coaches staff yet. to be the ravens at four Raven Raven because we beat them week. Four in Baltimore like they wasn't wasn't for like this was going like they are going now but I don't know they. They could slow down by week. Sixteen like I think I think the Ravens gotTa have hit some kind of peak some point like they'd be good teams like fifty like I don't know how much better football you played in that but you know it's gotta be gotta be a game where they're having bad weather and and it got in which they just had gotta be a bad weather game where you didn't now you're limited images running and then you gotta you gotta be able to do something like hurt over what special teams time of possession. Their control that every single game that they have so. When you're off as out there you cannot go three and out with the Ravens that the one thing that you can not just yeah and I think I think the one like the browns beat them early? I think one thing you can't take away from that is one like like having a myles Garrett type do probably helps And we'RE NOT GONNA have my care for the game but also Like I waited in the mall. Good I'm not doing. I'm so I gotta I gotTa hear some of that as like. I was so mad me as I had episode one on this crazy rate because I was so angry that the narrative on the game was now's Gary Right and then there it is on that game that has dominated the steelers. So when I go to sleep when I'm waking up I'm thinking that everybody's saying tillerson chest but always talking about is the they'll get over to this day. I'm like why is it still is the narrative is like something that had nothing to do with the game but crazy right. Did you see that drove me insane. It's crazy right. How would it still is lose? Nobody like the steelers guys. Thank control the media. That's somebody that drove me nuts. What was that like before that game? I be Waking Brown pants thing we kill. It's a travesty. He could've killed somebody. It's like okay going there all right but he wasn't they kill somebody back involved like that. Yeah Rudolph all those killed both wide receivers in that game legitimately he. You throw a ball that guy. Somebody hit so hard. That blood bleeding that ear. It's it's like it's crazy. How like you know before that game people were like? Oh my God like you guys heard on hype about the steelers. Ethan's they got to defensive player of the year candidates on defense right ornate defensive player of the year candidates even though the San Francisco Forty niners might be the best defense I've seen in the last decade. They only one defensive player of the year candidate. Got Though on Pittsburgh. Okay They those is three touchdowns no interceptions. Everybody told me that. It's Patrick t day while we're GONNA get all this still all this crap instill fans thing and it. Did it happen. And nobody talks about it. And then what they do they go well we the steelers are good like you talk to the player of the year. Two Thousand Vamos PEACEMAS would be. They win the one game at home in Pittsburgh and then they're like she say more browse like I'll still split the series baby you six range like okay. Let's talk about the game just a little bit eight. What do you have What do you think are some things that we could Highlight Prokofiev's bars like your expectations. Sunday who do you think that the brand should be worried worried about. Is there anybody from the Brown that you think that the bengals just don't have an answer for Oh man I think if we if we start off looking at the browns I've been a huge Jarvis Landry fan before he was he was even in Cleveland I think he's GonNa be a problem for our linebackers He's definitely a guy that I looked for Or as a threat I think you also talk about the emergence of Kareem Hunt coming back now with nick chose great running back obviously our weaknesses linebacker Saying if we can actually stop those guys is GonNa be you know monumental I think Outside of that I think them lose them out. Gary is done both well for us especially with US having Glenn Beck John lost. I think it's GonNa be a problem A lot of people kind of forgot out about John Rouse but like he was really exploded earlier in the year until he had his chest injury and fortunately in the red rifle is back as we know and him having John. Ross him having audience say in Tyler Board. I think a lot of people kind of overlooked the bengals receiving record because we don't have a great but it's talented land. That's the strongpoint like I didn't say is like crazy. Like circus catching Russian dude or whatever you combine that with John Ross. I think they'll have to worry about that. Joe Mixing. He's kind of find his way here. Like obviously the often the line is just kind of hurt us but like I said going back that Kinda helps us. I think that this is like if you were to ask me to go. I would. I would have told you that the browns we're GONNA sweep but once they decided to make the decision to bench. Ri- family throw back in there and the fact that they've made some adjustments especially the defensive coordinator Lou who in a room move. I think that We're going to actually be a little bit better. And I think that the browns are also watch out for defensive line. That's finally starting to pick up some. I'm staying here. The last three weeks Khasan is coming back with. That's been huge and I'm kicking myself in the face because I was criticizing Karloff earlier. This year on the pocket he Just murdering people right now. Carlos Dunlap is coming up with a three-set game leading meshes in the last three games. Yeah this defense. Are you living pressures just last week. I think that's this. This bows this both for us. And then the the x factor. I think really just from watching the Pittsburgh and Browse House game but then I noticed that Baker had injury where you know one or two steelers guys his town that. I'm not sure like what that's going to do. Like if somebody ends up stacking them my hurting ahead. I don't know what that means for the Brown so I think from that standpoint. It just seems to me like when I was watching that game on the last like the last Drive the steelers hair right to me. The browser still anyway. But like they've panther like the sideline and it Kinda show Baker Mayfield and the guys and and they didn't even seem like correct me if I'm wrong quincy but it didn't seem like they had that interview. That was like we're going to go out and win. It just kind of seemed like they were kind of frustrated so I I don't know what that means that they have innocent not not necessarily giving up. But it's like I wanted to see that energy from no and I didn't see it and like if I compare compare energies between what's the Bengals last week because I've seen that energy before we've seen it plenty to see them being oh and eleven but it seems like the energy that Kinda switched As well so I think that that could bode well for us. But I don't know that if I had if I had to say right now I think I'd have these next two guys between the bengals. Listen to browse. I would say that it was it would be split whereas if you would ask me. Two weeks ago I would have said the browns windswept. Yeah Yeah I think it's closest to that I I think The browns have the same issues offensive line which they shouldn't 'cause I don't even know they're getting Greg Robinson back this week because he concussion protocol so you might be just the same Mess on line and I think you talked about how they don't office look depleted depleted or on the sideline. Let me let me tell you why because they was watching that defensive. Line get absolutely zero penetration gracious last week and there's no excuse why they were in that terrible against the steelers offense of line last week browse have. What back in two tackles for loss last week? That's like a normal nick bolster day like whole defense. Everybody in the whole season they were just getting pushed around. And it's like that. That stuff's the flame when you can give to somebody and you're allowing somebody like huck. They have a decent day because your defensive line is just in apt like they and they they should it because they have sheldon Richardson they have Olivier Vernon like like. I know miles. Gary isn't there. But you know Larry Oaken show. Those are three guys. Were supposed to be decent. And it's just like their plan in all like complete scrubs out there Half the game. They didn't even have half the starters. Why don't even have to starters defensive line and it was just it was? It was mind boggling. How that game slowdowns? 'cause I you know one of the things. I think happens a lot with like twitter. Is like thirty certain things become like hate on and like you know it's like oh it's funny to like make jokes about whatever. I'm pretty sure like you saw this with the mangoes like people thought it was funny money to like mess up the bengals and not really look at the situation fairly just like just trash things tomatoes or whatever any of those because it's cool the hey on that and it's like right now it's cool to hate on. Baker is cool to hate on Freddie Kitchens and I get where both of those things come from because they both does vase. That make you go like you. Don't make it easy on yourself especially with Baker less with Freddie Freddie because he's southern fat which is stupid to me but ah you know like with Baker if Baker paker gifts in their replies so as mentioned as on twitter like Baker you know he kinda gets he kind of gets back to the same energy he puts out sometimes that that is what it is but yeah the press conference is like you know he he'd be out there or sometimes you just gotTa live with that. We have Marcus Peters. You'll team but they like coming up this week though Greg Robinson. Isn't there it it that that is a problem. I think you're gonNA see as you brought up the running game in this whole thing is. The browns are watching anything else that we watched the last three weeks when tease rent to the middle of the field which I think the brands kind of real. They're running off. Tackle people in between the tackles. The doesn't vote well because as you know is a genus accurate to our hefty little. That is hard hard to do it. The way to beat the bengals go outside right boundaries. Plays they go to the boundaries. The linebacking core the Bengals do not have an answer at all and one thing that I have other also from the browns this past week as I duNNo Wilkes his coaching corners. To do this but greedy not look like what I thought he what. He wasn't college in detail is it. He's like I'm those coaching almost like. He's telling you to you play this. They're the Jersey number and not play the ball so they were really really late on a lot of those plays getting their head around when the ball is there. If that happens all the the kings of throwing it when he sees your head is not turn. He's seen pattern for it is I think is probably one of the most foaling plays in the NFL. Like it's just there's one thing where he just catches into this thing. Where does it Your linebacker has their heads third or whatever and he's been going through it right there. I was going over top of on the table over top. Love Green did it for them. They're decade so those are the two things that I will watch sports They've played up all they can pick off. They can have success. There's a lot of different things that you can exploit from the bengals but I will tell you that the defense of Flint has been playing a whole lot better and they are going. They're fully healthy in their ferocious. So so you're saying Good Robertson's concussion protocol and there's one thing I would check out and I look for because there's been on tear and he's actually been named the Esi player Eh fast that'd be interesting As far as like with the browns around Games You say you don't the the boundaries of your weak spot run game. Yep that's the only place that the browns run the ball with make up so that might be a problem this week. 'cause they don't cause the browser. Yeah 'cause browns. Because I I I hear this from browns fans they like I don't be running up the middle more but if you watch a lot of make up and I don't know you might have some a lot of Georgia. He's his past asks when he's able to go and then cut downfield and in for him running up the middle. It's really not what he's GonNa do but our coaching staff might decide. This is the a week. Run up the middle for no reason. But let's do this. Let's get our final sports together. I WANNA question. What do you got coming up Sunday? One o'clock what's the score Brown's tangles who win. That's here I think it's GonNa be a shootout. Oh yeah okay. I think both teams are going to put up good amount of points. That think. I'm trying to make sure to score makes sense. This is the first floor that just popped up in my head. Thirty six thirty one in a way I would. I would love to take thirty once a month I would. I would run run. I would love taking twenty four. 'cause we haven't been in this we what else right now but we do that core and one thing that you were saying earlier that caught my thing is a lot of browns fans. They're gonNA look into defense. visit they give up points or whatever but if they're not giving up more than seventeen points. I'm going to be looking at the office like why don't you give me twenty one. Twenty four tallow hasn't happened yet. So we're waiting for the ACE WITCHY DOT man Like I said we haven't scored twenty four points this Ho season But the X. Factor I think could be done. I think the last time we've actually put up. Some points has been because of him I'M GONNA Dennis stay based off. I'm thinking that I'm going to probably bank on Baker Mayfield's being an issue in this game because for me I I feel like it can be one Carlos Dunlap sack off at the end. That could possibly have them sit game. I think though that this game was going to be close so I'm GonNa go with I'm GonNa go with Bengals twenty seven Brown's twenty four. Okay I'm not GonNa really close to that too. I'm GonNa say Brown twenty four angle seventeen were taking for borough. It'd be in class. And so we got a law. Not Saying that's actually Steph. Where Baker Mayfield that in my last question for? We're not. Yeah not we. We have to do it on this one. Okay you come from a standpoint where you guys is Passed on a quarterback right in twenty seventeen you just miles gear overtaking the quarterback right now obviously kind of it kind of worked out for you guys because you were only in sixteen and that basically the next thing you got the number one pick may feel we. We come from the school of thought that the Bengals aren't going to go the only sixteen because somehow figure out how to go like seven and nine six whatever so we will have a shot that next year if we do take chase you on to get that quarterback but but if you were in the bengals shoes let you come from a similar standpoint right. You really think like it's obvious that the Bengals quarterback do you. You really think that picking chae-jong over quarterback that they need that could be something that can do what Baker has enough for you guys. The you think that that's ask the right. Pick Joe Berle if you think. Joe Berle is going to be the franchise quarterback and you're convinced you gotTa Take Joe Borough like I think was a franchise. quarterback is just like when you draft bad. Yeah I do like I've seen the BROWNS DRA- foods that like nobody was so like half the front office was sold on like if the bankers are sold on Jonesboro. So then they gotta draft Joe Borough or they're sold on tour to was hurt but if they're sold on anybody they got it do it as that point you you gotta pull the trigger on that. That's why I am like that was twenty seventeen. The browns did that you know and like this while not as critical about when teams. Miss quarterback quarterback is other people are is because like you know if the browns were the draft to China Watson like half the front office into believing Shawn Watson so like the what with the browns of guy you know like you need to really be able to commit like the reason the Texas are doing what they can do with this washes. They traded up with the Browns at twelve to get this out wise. And you know the chiefs traded up to get their die in Patrick Mahomes and you know sometimes it works workshop. You make you take that bet on the right guy. Sometimes it does but you gotta take the full and you gotta have everybody behind it Now the year myles Garrett went number one the browns at that You know at that point when the browns did that you have to remember that year there was no like clear cut number one or the first quarter about today. It was what was it. Mitch Mitchell trubisky in every Saturday right now and this this me say Jones on the classroom. Yeah I'd be talking to change that Joe not that I think about this. Whatever somebody tries to tell you that they know exactly what a quarterback school would be great? The future Mitchell trubisky went through in that draft Patrick Mahomes at the shots after him. Yeah and it wasn't uneven big deal at the moment but nobody saw that one coming I honestly I would have been okay. If they would've picked china-watcher number one one overall that year I was on Trae. Yeah I thought the Shawn Watson was bad dude at the Washington cleansing and I don't even like Clinton football but I liked to China John Watson baller. Yeah resume that was weird for me because his resume was like impeccable like due to the championship. Two years in a row bought out suit for five hundred yards against Alabama two years in a row I mean. NFL basically a NFL. Junior defence. That's me I was kind of scratching my ahead there. I'M GONNA do one of these days like I ain't got to say it but if you know what I'm talking about you're gonna not talking about any crazy Trevor Lawrence on the Alabama once and they already talked about Bottomley's a number one overall pick but look the record right got picked twelve right. I gotta say not to that. We all know what. That's the question everybody where they find you at thank you so much time in Orange is the new black podcast but let them you know what's GonNa find you out again they'll probably You guys can finally all you to cross the carrier to you. INC why they are. I are twitter coin tatum. ESPN underscore see finally on instagram. At worst underscores take You know there are just just kinda football kind of goof around sometimes you know Like the like the do the whole thing during the season. Got A new video out this week about how we're how the media's Kinda terrible like a valuation quarterbacks check it out is an NFL team friendly all this stuff there Everybody thank you all for having me on Eh check it out. Yeah right yeah closing March where we found out today or does the new lack podcast not at all. Let's get it who they who they.

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Cleveland Chaos: Baker Mayfield, OBJ and the Failing Browns

ESPN Daily

16:51 min | 1 year ago

Cleveland Chaos: Baker Mayfield, OBJ and the Failing Browns

"Twenty four nineteen your bottle. Score the broncos get the win over the BROWNS and look for Cleveland move it forward your two and six or where do you go for. It wasn't supposed to be like this. The Cleveland browns started the season as perhaps the most hyped team in the NFL and predictions of Baker. Mayfield throwing O B J in the Super Bowl or rampant but now the browns are two and six with no sign of turning things around and anytime soon today what went wrong in Cleveland and I somehow responsible I mean it's Tuesday November knbr fifth this is espn daily presented by Dell Small Business. I'm looking at two pictures. That circulate eight on the Internet. One is Baker Mayfield wearing what appears to be a trench coat of sorts at his post-game Presser. After the browns lost to the broncos this photo has been memed a lot bakers been compared to the robbers and home alone amongst other things. The other photo is a picture of Baker Mayfield from this summer he he is also wearing a trenchcoat but he looks happy and vibrant niece striding confidently behind a pack of dogs it is a cover of ESPN the magazine and it says Baker Mayfield and the browns have a new leash on life. The author of that cover story is me Jake as the browns reporter. I feel well I have to ask you. Did I curse this team. No they ended in the playoffs in seventeen years. I haven't won the division in thirty years. Jake Trotter reports on the Cleveland. BROWNS IS FOR ESPN thirty quarterback since coming back to the NFL in one thousand nine hundred nine. Of course art modell took the team to Baltimore. You are not the curse of the browns. The browns are already cursed. I wonder the same thing at times like my the reason. This team is where it's at. But it's not. It's not my fault. It's not your fault. The browns accursed. I don't really you have any other explanation for this season. What was the scene like on Sunday in the locker room after the loss to Denver? Yeah it was bizarre so I'm on deadline. After the game I'm not paying attention to Germain Whitehead's tweets. Obviously he was the player in the game that had two crucial missed tackles including one that led to a seventy five yard touchdown. No offense breaking teach. That's a tall effort there by warhead. So by the time I get the locker room hearing about these tweets that Whitehead ascending lean-to of all people a person who appears on the browns radio flagship. Post game show. He responded to criticism on twitter with a series of profanity laced and threatening tweets and of course few hours later he was waived from the team had been a big part of their secondary all year. So you had that going on. And then you had of course. Baker Baker Mayfield true detective season. Four at his post-game podium he had shaved twice inexplicably shaved once before taking the field and then shaved again. I guess after the game because he didn't want to be sporting to Fu Manchu mustache that he wore on the field after such a demoralizing lost. I think part of the reason why the memes have taken off so much. Is the expectations for this esteem. Were so high going into this season. Well you got the sense from the browns themselves that they thought that they were going to be really good. You know there's a lot of bravado. Hello there were two G. Q.. Cover stories between Baker and Odell. You mentioned your cover story with Baker on. ESPN the magazine. Lot of chatter from and Baker whether it was talking about Johnson and get on the train there. Either on this train or not that it's moving You can get out the way you can join us or Daniel Jones. I can't believe they drafted after him. If you're looking for trash talk right now the place to find it as Cleveland a lot of bluster from the Brown which is fine if you back it up but when you you don't back it up and you talk as much as the bronze have receives come. Do one thing that's been really curious about. This is Baker Mayfield's performance because his last season down the stretch after Freddie Kitchens came in took over as offensive coordinator he was excellent. I mean he was stopped by many to be a front runner for offensive rookie of the year which ultimately went to Saquon Barkley. Why do you think is play is regressed so much? It's hard to explain Baker. I think they EGAS took more bets on Baker to win this year than any other player in the NFL which shows what people were thinking about. Baker comes off that rookie season. I mean I think it's a combination Asian of things and he doesn't look decisive. You'll see him double clutch a lot. That's not the baker That I used to see in you know having covered him all the way back when he was at Texas attack. He's not accurate with the football. He is dead last in the NFL right now in in completion rate which is sort of inconceivable when you think about Baker Mayfield's track record and and you know I I don't know what is going to fix it or what is going to turn it around. Baker is not the same player that we are accustomed to watch him. Certainly not the player Claire we saw last year. You mentioned you've covered him since college. So Jake you are aware of his persona. How he self identifies as an underdog underdog? Going into this season finally seemed like he was no longer the underdog he was actually the favorite. How has he handled this level of adversity? I don't think he's handled it. Great you go back to last week. When he had the dust up with Tony Grossi the reporter in Cleveland where Baker Baker stormed out of his availability? You want to give them the ball back. No you don't play you don't know that's just plain and simple was happy with the drive. No we didn't score points. It's the dumbest question you could ask. Jesus Dacre in engrossing tense relationship. Going back to when Baker was going through his pre-draft process us Grossi went on the radio in Cleveland and said that Baker demanded first class airfare which turned into a whole thing. Like you know who knows what what what happened. There and then compared baker to Johnny Manziel which is not exactly fair comparison. I think given Janis issues off-the-field going back to Texas. AM in Baker is held it against Tony ever since and anytime Tony asked question. Baker either dismisses it you know answers. Is it sarcastically or with a little bit of an S. so I understand. Baker is coming from but nobody else is going to have that context. Ask that situation and so it just makes Baker look bad and he's got to understand that you know when you're losing people are not going to have a lot of tolerance for you acting like that after the break how the seeds of the browns struggles were sewn this off season AT ESPN daily. Were covering the greatest sports stories history. We know what makes the Dream Team. And when you're hiring for your business you we need the recruits. That will become champions. That's why you need indeed for Your Business indeed will help you find the best playmakers for your business with tools like online skills. Those tests that help candidates show the perfect hire for you post your next job at indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily and try skills. Tests for free. That's indeed D dot Com slash. ESPN daily terms conditions and exclusions apply. Franklins was a bit of an unusual choice for head coach. He had never been an offensive coordinator before last season Jake. He told me that he had never even interviewed for a job as offensive coordinator before last season suddenly he's thrust into this role as head coach of the hottest team in football. How did that happen? Well I think first of all Freddie is very likable as a person. I'm sure you will agree. Having met him I think that was appealing to the. Has the owners of the team To to John Dorsey. The general manager in probably most importantly vol Baker Mayfield Baker and Freddie really hit it off and there was this synergy that was kind of magical. Oh for Cleveland last year and you look at the split between the first half of the two thousand eighteen season in the last half when Freddie took over as offensive coordinator and like their staggeringly during we different. You know how much better the browns were at the end of the year. I mean Baker. Statistically and probably in reality it was one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL week nine on last year and so they felt like okay. We found something. Let's build around it. Let's go get Odell Beckham. And let's let's turn this over to Freddie who who seems to have this this magical connection Baker Mayfield and it's been anything but magical the sheer. Obviously but that's what they envisioned when they decided to to Gamble Baloney Guy. Who again you know had never been a play collar at any level at football nevermind a head coach before? What mistakes has kitchens made? It's across the board start with the penalties and turnovers. That's a reflection of the head coach. I mean baron. I'd you know. Questionable play calling questionable questionable clock management. He's thrown a bunch of challenge flags this year that had no chance of being overturned. And then you just squander a timeout go back to the rams game. That was a game. They had a chance to win. They call a draw on fourth in nine to nick job. They were the first team in years to run a draw on a fourth nine or longer situation and it got stuffed robbing them of a scoring opportunity and then at the end of the game after all of that they still have a chance is to win they had the ball at the rams inside the rams five yard line and they call four straight passing plays out of empty shotgun and they were the only team up to that point this season to run into shotgun once never mind four times. Didn't get the ball back. Didn't hand the ball off the nick job and they lose the game a and I don't know that it's any one specific thing when you look at Freddie Kitchens and man. I can't believe he did that. It's just the the totality of it. All the draw on four within nine still haunts me to this day. It was a very haunting moment for Cleveland browns. You mentioned Odell and he hasn't got the ball in key situations nations as of Monday. He ranked eighteenth in receiving yards. He has just one touchdown. What's going on there? This is the most damning statistic on Dell this year red zone targets this season in the NFL. Julian Edelman is number one with eighteen. Jarvis Landry is number eight with eleven in Tonio Calloway. Browns wide receiver missed the first four games the year sixty I with five Odell Beckham all the way down at number one twenty six. NFL has three red zone. Target targets not catches targets this year. You would think that if the Patriots can get the ball to Julian Edelman eighteen times in the red zone that the browns would be able to do at least half of that with with Odell Beckham. Like why did you trade for him the fact that they have him that they acquired him this off season. One of the reasons why expectations were so high. Right I mean the browns were the super bowl champions on paper. Do you think John Dorsey the GM deserves any of the blame for all this. I I think he definitely deserves some of the blame number one. He's the one who hired Freddie Kitchen. So if you have a problem the way. Freddie Kitchens has coach Dorsey deserves part of the blame because he made. Hey that hire you know. I think the other part of the two is you'll Dorsey went out and got some star power but stars don't make team and the glaring weaknesses that they have. Their stars have not been able to overcome them two weeks ago. Dorsey said I believe the foundation of an offense as the offensive offensive line and yet did not do anything this off season to address it. There's a lot of moves that once you look at Freddy. The offensive line and the way Baker is played that John Dorsey who looked like an absolute genius just a few months ago. I think the question some of what has happened. Do you think it's possible. Bull that they do move on from kitchens either during the season or afterwards I get the sense that they are not going to make a move during the season that being instead they go. You know they don't win again then then that certainly is going to be on the table you know. I think they really want Freddie to succeed. You know this isn't a situation. Where the general? The manager hopes the coach fail so he can go higher his own guy. Freddie is John Dorsey is guy and before the season Freddie was really popular with the the fans I I think he's still popular for the most part with the players including Baker in Odell but at the end of the day. If if you're underperforming and you have a team with this much talent. There's not really a strong case to be made that you should be given another shot. Take browns fans have been through a a lot a lot of pain a lot of hardship a lot of dark seasons. How are they handling this one? Well the good news is they're used as to this the they're not used to teen having expectations in losing but they are used to the losing so that that's I guess that's a positive positive a silver lining on curious to see what that stadium is going to be like on Sunday when the buffalo bills come to town a stadium that they've nicknamed year the factory. Three of sadness which I think that nickname old true this year as well I think they're bundled and the worst part is it's November in Cleveland. Winner's getting ready. Did I mean the cavs. Don't have Lebron James Anymore. Cleveland has its sports teams. That's what these people identify with and when your sports teams are did laughing stock in the NFL. It's it's not a great feeling to have well. I imagine winner lose bakers probably not gonNA wear another trench coat. No I think. That's it's less than we'll see that. Look thanks Jake thanks. Thanks for ruining the Entire Brown season. I'll be back in a moment with one. More Story Dell celebrates your small business season with the Black Friday sneak peek. Our biggest black Friday ever starts right now save up to forty five percent on windows. Ten computers with Intel core processors before windows seven support ends January Fourteenth Two thousand twenty save on servers plus a huge selection of the late electric's all with free shipping. Call eight seven seven seven by Dell to talk to a Dell Small Business Technology Advisor. Who can help you find? Just the right tech- that's 877-buy-dell or visit Dell dot com slash business deals. That was a story. You need to know the here's one. I want you to know tonight for the first time. Nearly thirty thirty years the top four college basketball teams in the country. According to the people are playing on the same day in the State Farm Champions Classic. That's Duke Kansas Mantis Kentucky and the number one team Michigan State Michigan State is ranked number one heading into the season for the first time ever under coach. Tom Izzo. And here's what I find interesting interesting since two thousand ten no team ranked number one at the beginning of the season has gone on to win the national title. It's almost like massive. Expectations are bad for performance. which is something? I've tried to tell my parents for years but that's neither here nor there now looking back over the last decade there are a number of reasons why it's played out this way. Every sport has elements of randomness. College basketball is uniquely unpredictable. Robin talking about players who have barely played together meeting in a single elimination tournament. And and of course a litany of injuries can strike between now and March. But if there's a team that seems bill to defy randomest it's Michigan state which not only has a legendary coach. Tom Tom Izzo but also brings back experienced talent like senior. All American caches Winston as well as exciting young freshman rocket. Watts a repeat. His name is rocket watts. Plus on top of that team is apparently agreed to stay off twitter season which raises the question. If you a

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Dr. Floyd Voicemail #02 - The Radio Adventures of Dr. Floyd

The Radio Adventures of Dr. Floyd

05:13 min | 1 year ago

Dr. Floyd Voicemail #02 - The Radio Adventures of Dr. Floyd

"What? Hello there friends. It's evil mastermind Dr Steve here, and you are about to hear a classic voicemail episode of the radio adventures of Dr Floyd. Now, we recorded these episodes back in the day when our voicemail line was up and operational. It's not anymore. So please don't call it it won't work. But we hope you enjoy this. Classic voicemail episode nonetheless. Ooh, that's fun to say nonetheless, nonetheless, nonetheless, none his the episode. Hey, everybody, this is Dr grant from the radio ventures of Dr Floyd. And this is Dr Floyd from the radio adventures of Dr grant, and we know Dr Floyd, it's Dr Floyd the radio ventures have Dr Floyd. It's all about you or that trait. Anyway, you know, last time we came on here. We talked to you about this voicemail that we set up. Yeah. I remember that we were listening to him. That's right and the phone number. You can call leave us a voice message is eight one eight three three two three zero five three. Oh, that's a good number easy to memorize. That's right. And we have some new messages would you like to hear him Dr Floyd? Yeah. This notion to him. Okay. Here's the first one. I that why you have a small. Hey boy. Yeah. All boys. Right. Doug grant. Now. Listen, first of all I do not like to be referred to having a small head. I preferred to be referred to as having as being a cranial each changed. And chicken of all the next flight? Like don't blow your top folks, please when you call in. Let's try not to insult the size of Dr Floyd's head. All right next message. Just floyd. You always have to be so sensitive in situations and about your small head. Do I really should screen. These calls before we put them on the air. I am not judging. Okay. Let's go onto the next next. Call eight Dr Floyd with I actually had a question for you in episode one eight when you introduce the super sharp super soggy sugar flakes, I thought I heard the mothers a this will cost me on my drinking money now. I love your show, and everything awesome. It's hilarious and to Stoorikhel. But one episode maybe have a little bit of doubt. If you could explain why all the way all my doubts. Thank you very much. Gee, that's a great question. Dr grant, let me feel dish one. If I may. Okay. Go for it. I think that if we were to. Oh, okay. We here at the radio adventures of Dr Floyd do not condone excessive drinking since super Jogi sugar flakes represents an evil corporation. We feel that the type of person who might purchase super soggy sugar flakes might also be the type to drink excessively prepared by Arthur p Tirchet JR. Is Claire attorney don't don't read that part. Oh, who was that guy? I don't know. But it certainly wasn't a lawyer. All right. Let's move on to our next call Dr fly. My name is Andrew I'm a big fan of your show. I just have a couple of questions for you one. Gene, you give us any photos of what some of the other characters such as time and space worms. Look like. I'm really interested to know what they kinda look like and to do any of you have first names. Thank you. Get by polite. Little boy, he those were great questions. Andrew as far as pictures of the other people on the show, you I did try to take some pictures of the time and space firms. Dr floyd. Yeah. I remember in. I think they believe that if you took their picture took part of their soul with it. Yeah. So we always respect other cultures wishes, and I didn't take any photos. Yeah. And how about respecting the wishes of those of us who are cranial challenged. Dr Phil dot to fly. Let's move on to the second question. The second question is do we have first names? Yeah. I do. Don't you? I have a first name too. Yeah. We do. Okay. Well, let's go on to our last call doc, you if you were to travel back into time with your time and space travel device and meet yourself before you built the time and space travel device and prevent yourself from building. It would the two of you. Then be time and space pair of docs. Did you like that joke? Doctor flight. Yeah. What yoke the paradox joke? Oh, no. I was just having because he did a funny voice. Oh, you didn't get the paradox joke. Yeah. I got it. In fact, I love the way he said pair of ducks. Instead a paradox. Like it's supposed to be really sold it. All right. Well, they gentleman. That's it for our voicemail for this week. If you want to call and leave us a voicemail, you can call eight one eight three three two three zero five three and ask us a question or make a comment, and we'll be glad to answer it on the air. There's been a lot of fun Dr grand, but I'm going to get back to my CB radio. But easy, I'm going to talk to him now. Okay. By Dr Floyd one nine for the hogwash. As you you here. Here. Baker Baker one nine for the hogwash. She. You got that? Right. Good, buddy. Hey, I got a new job for you. I just wrote it these guys are doctors. And if you go into time space team. Mm-hmm.

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94 - Former Sex Ed Teacher ANI BAKER Joins Us!

The Valleycast

1:23:15 hr | 1 year ago

94 - Former Sex Ed Teacher ANI BAKER Joins Us!

"Oh on these the gas to clapper really good good clap anyway goodness closed. Thanks Gary Account. Oh Man I got so angry. I was going to throw this beer. You know like ooh control control guys. Welcome to the valley cast. That song came from hunting. Aren't at home love. That was very good. Great Nice today. We have a special guest on the valley. I cast my friend onny Baker Baker no referring to me. I put my full name on on like projects but I think that's excessive to uh require people to say all three names and I don't know I mean I guess it depends on who if you're a good person I will say your full name. That's what you want. What what what is it on the eastern Baker on eastern bigger cool name? Yeah it looks better on projects or like on pieces of writing but I think in in life I typically use on eastern sounds the one thousand nine hundred eighty s synth pop so yeah on Houston's poster on by Mary Baker Family Right so now I also just like super religious music changed after on. I know each other through Hollywood. And it's deviousness. What does that mean as well as its yes As well as its reward. That's so true because we are. We are a group of people who I feel. Blessed to be in a group of friends ends with cannibals cannibals survived so far. So Yeah we've been chosen on because we had Because you know Whitney more and more as a good friend also and She best friend even shit. She's everyone's best friend Ashi is the world's best friend she's a great best friend. I like always hesitate to use that term. 'cause I knew how to be a best friend. She doesn't hesitate to use it and she knows podcast is brought to you by Whitney more sprint but she She and I on this podcast talked about Being buried in a friend grave which is a place. Where if you want all of your friends can be buried in the same spot under a big beautiful tree or or something and it can be ashes? It could be bodies it could be whatever you want. I thought you were talking about metaphorically so that last well then we went a step further. Talked about how you could also put a piece of your face or an arm on the tree. Fell Frankel to go and give well-wishes you're making a piece of your face. Your face molded into the tree is a taxidermy face I don't know the sentiment was really sweet and I feel I feel bad that I'm creeping you know. Is this real. I need to know winning. I been talking about having a friend plot that we can all all be buried in together when we are all dead at different times he does have a friend plot to make a friend plot. Yeah we should call you. Write a movie called the friend plot and it's all about like an all and it's all individual stories about when the friend dies and then his added to the friend plot it's gotTa have subtitle in parentheses rather than plights. It's a double meaning friend plot double meaning double Anyway but yeah invited into yeah. That's what I was GONNA say. I say I was GonNa say that I feel alike. You're probably unofficially already a part of it if you'd like to be as you feel. You weren't unofficially. Okay in some Christian graveyard somewhere. Probably Arc Someone shoots arrows does add from the shore and you and you get burnt in the dubs to attack Ryan. christian-based shut up Joe for watching so Omni is a good friend and so I'm having on the podcast because I know you're releasing a movie. You're trying to have a movie. You're in post production now. We're like almost we're honestly adding. I think the last edits on Saturday. Yeah I feel like it's GonNa meet Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Gun Gun all about it okay I made a documentary It's a short because we'll we're pitching it as a pilot pilots. I would love for it to be turned into a DOCU series. But it's about the need for better sex said in the school system the public school system. Yeah 'cause I was a public school teacher for twelve years and There were like a lot of things about the system. That really really bothered me and truly like crippled me from being able to do my job. Well it's it's a very very broken system like I honor it. I'm grateful for it. It's free education great but also. Oh it's infuriating affiliating liquid. We don't teach kids hoops. You gotTa jump through the standards that you have to regulations the parents that don't want you saying certain things to them little during their hands. Joe Joe does not allow his kids. Don't talk to Mike. Here's what I tell. Every teacher ask questions. Don't talk to. My child knows daddy's home. Yeah Yeah I remember being in Catholic school remember the sex. Ed was pretty abysmal. Tell me please because that's so The questions I think I'm most curious about and the questions I've been asking people across the board What was your sex ed like? Also when did you become interested in sex and then how were you educated because kids become interested in sex at age five six and then they're not educated at all and also told like that topic. I know it's like exciting to you but you're never allowed to talk about it. which like amps it up even more beautiful music while we talk about this when when I first heard about sex ed I remember? I was a young boy Catholic school. I can't remember what great it was really. That's probably important information that I could share with Huma Brando works so well I would say it was at a ballpark out of ballpark. Yeah you know. I don't know man I'm going to have to say something like fourth grade. Maybe that's what I remember that sound about right. V could've been V also. Mrs Tingstroem was my fifth grade teacher. Great teacher name a a lot of nuns in my school on teachers that were nuns and remember being they were set. They separated the separated the boys and girls for sex at that in my public school as well. Yeah so And I remember a great way to be like. We're going to give you guys some information we're going to give the other guys the other side of the information but don't talk about it too well that way the chaperone thing where it's like thinking that this is forbidden thing and then it just actually gives them something to talk about together right. I I don't know because I would deprive is because we have no idea. Sorry go ahead. No I don't have much to say about it other than I just remember it being really weird and I didn't get it and I wasn't into it and and I remember that there was this book that was like trying to it was like a Christian early a Catholic leaning book about sex Ed and it was like robots what's and it was like it was robots and they were like little cartoony robots and the male robot had like this lake springy penis looking thing and then the female robot had like a like a whole for the spring to go into you and I remember it's showing you like sex with these like weird cartoon robot is pop out when it went how the busy years when it when it took. Its top off. Do you think there's any way you could find my question to like man. I wish I could let me see. Maybe Google searches just regular human liquids or robot liquids would make the other one short circuit so it had to have been like a like tinman oil. I remember being bill. You're thinking the robot about sex grocer than the no no it was just like a male body. Here's the theme of the robot. But I I remember this spring having like I remember this spring being like nod Iraq and then the spring was erect. Do you have a weird robot kink now absolutely. It's so hot you you know what's interesting. I actually do talk about. How if the robot was incredibly convincing? I couldn't tell the difference between the person and the robot but the robot was like a sex robot. I would have sex with that. Rogue was there Robo tessies in in the diagram. I don't remember remember the spring. I remember. Remember being really weirded out by this spring and being like what is this I think. Hold on let me ask you a question okay. So you have this robot that you can't tell as a robot and you're saying you would have sex with a person the an extension of that question would be. Is it sex. If it's with a robot or is it just masturbation and the robot is a sex toy I mean I guess it depends on capable of. This is probably a question for the I was thinking I think it's semantics semantics Mantis. Because you're having sex with I mean it's like well the closest thing I can think like a real doll right so Which is actually latex? Creepy don't judge and have you ever like looked up videos of like a man for instance having sex with absolutely okay so with those dolls calls. Yeah with the corpse totally but it is a human body and so there is a whiff sort of situation Ani's an understanding person and she's very she can see both sides. I mean that's very true things you've noticed but she's not gonNA judge about how we it is she's just going GonNa be like I can see how that would work for. That person is also you can have sex with another human being and it just be like mutual masturbation because you guys are just way way too far uncomfortable Russell. Everything's Fine I ask you about that. That's so wild to me is that there was a group. A team of professional adults being paid to make that curriculum. And they're so afraid of the human body that they couldn't show it and they were like next best thing and and this was years ago. Robots were even like what we're robots to the world at that nine hundred vary acids totally so we'll just show them with robots. Why Canana nothing? It's like someone in some Catholic curriculum. was like this'll do because it's not exactly actual or whatever it's not exactly a vagina. Yeah which is not but I think like you know. They really were doing their best. Weren't they from like from. I mean look balch go. You could go deep into the whole controversy of like the mind control of religion and all this stuff but lowering but truthfully truthfully when you get down to it it's just it's just like parents wanting to to to have their children learn this in a way. That's you know it's just not. It's not specific. I think you went to a school. That was actually run by robots from the future lowly. We're we're pictures of yes was it. A robot was everything robots there was some kind of mentoring candidate right now is a robot back back to what was going on. I think ever heard you say anything positive about the Catholic Church Tireless. Louis spent nine years in that institution and I saw the good and the bad of it and I just saw something. That wasn't for me. More than any other robot plug themselves into the wall at night and all the kids. Let's be honest. If I saw that I would have loved it. There's some fucking sci-fi N- urged urged. I mean me and my friend. Jeff used to pretend that like under the church there was like a catacombs with like evil. Satan Shit Shit and we had to protect the whole town from like evil under the church. My Church that was a mega church and it was a ten thousand seat. Auditorium Gem stomach right exactly. That's why I was watching the show and then the school the private school. That was a part of it used to it was like a historic landmark. That originally was a nursing home used to be apartments row people and so when they built the church they built this tunnel under ground between the two and you could access the tunnel from different areas of this like super like nineteen twenties unease building about sex Tanta. And you go down in there and there would be these huge vaulted doors was always cool into see and then down. The street was was another church. That had an pasture nearby and there was like a shed and me and my buddy in high school went into that Shit and there was another tunnel that led from that shed to a different area area sexual not sexual went in there. There was all this stuff spray paint and about Satan and six six. What and we went in and there was water up to like our shins and and they were gonNA walk all the way across and go through the tunnels like nope not ideal and And then we heard some kind of crazy sound and ran out but I think it was his sounds scaring us but yeah it so weird man. There's Gender Shit I've seen too many underground. Yeah why is there underground. Tunnels in a fucking megachurches. It's I don't remember which I know there's an answer that sounds like it's like Jonestown. Shit like the size of the tunnel in the megachurches I like the size of the circumference of this room. The whole like so full grown adults could walk straight through ruined since when they like disappear and then they show up behind the crowd like David David Copperfield. I think they did use it for that. We've got it. I love that detail though because there is like shit going on in the underbelly. The belly of a church major literally at ten will it shows all ray super religious. No I the one that was not a I was a heathen Catholic public Christian fundamentalist Christian Biblical literalist dinosaurs. Didn't exist because they're not in the Bible though there manmade preaching the Joe Robots sexiest dinosaurs existed. How how is that? Lie Flatter Thir- type stuff or more parents You know my parents are remarried. I'd say they have the chance fine. It's nice patterns. Imagine every more but also they're all yeah like I'm supporters flatter Thursday. Now you're making Elliot uncomfortable. I'm just kidding I was just flatter. It's a joke one way too far So you grew up in the super religious religious thing to house. Sit for you so I also in fifth grade had the one day where they separate the girls and the boys and I think I I'm saying I think there was the video because my mom wouldn't allow me to participate to watch so she signed a little waiver are sent a note and I went and sat in the cafeteria alone like every other kid was allowed to watch this stupid had masturbating James Cusick. They called him that. Because he's a good fisherman. Sure So do you think I mean I started to make we think about that idea of like not letting your kid go to school on sex Ed Day because you're afraid of how sex ED will be portrayed to that person listen to your child and makes me wonder. Is that something that you should have the right to do. You think totally. especially it's a scientific thing that you're being taught and as like Karen Yeah Lake as a parent. You have ultimate authority Shropshire kids out of things like I've thought about 'cause like this project for me is attached to Oh teaming up with organizations which have already started to do which I'm very grateful for. We talked about that to get better. Laws passed to get better curriculum. That's more comprehensive in schools Now coming from a really fundamental cushioned background like I know a lot of parents are like. Don't save anything about the human body around my child and we have to defer to them like thank you know. They're in no way. Can we like force information down. Yeah that's just not but for me. I feel like the best way to go about. It is is to do kind of like a really comprehensive program. That's kind of like dare that goes from school to school and for like a week called truth or dare and I mean that's nice. They don't call it truth and then you'll get her would typically be turned off by this would be very anything called truth-ler that hurts my brain. What if there was an APP called truth-ler it probably? Yeah Yeah there must be right now be on those lists. I don't WanNa be on someone's log by the second. I searched for that Who when you not to deal too much but when you were a teacher Do you miss what. And what was like the slow process of deciding. You're going to do it anymore anymore. We're all of a sudden. Oh jeeze slow. Yeah so like the first five years I would say I was like. Don't talk to me about the politics of this like I'm not going to be one. Those teachers that goes to the staff meetings and complain about the system here for the kids. I love the kids. That's why I do what I do like not GonNa get caught up in all of the pitfalls and That lasted for a while and I was also very focused. You know like I. I also taught students with special needs mild to moderate so a lot of behavior issues Autism speech and language judge So it's a very challenging job so every day you know. It's like this puzzle that you have to solve and and I just poured all of my energy into doing well for my students and then I think after like five ish years I started to be like so. This is harder because I don't have curriculum for all of the grade levels of the kids in my classroom wipe don't have curriculum then like asking the principal like how come. I don't have all the books that I need like. You know you start to know your rights you know and start to pay attention and then That yes slowly got harder and harder like they're specifically kids with special needs in the school system are really really discriminated against and then there was this other thing of like I am spending all of my energy teaching these kids about stuff that they're too young to comprehend. We're not teaching them how to be alive. Like we don't teach them about their feelings or their motions or like anxiety or communication or like just like basic practical cool tools of Lake Mead alive and being happy you know and that really started to bother me because I wasn't raised with any of that either and I was such a sad. The anxious depressed kid into into being a teenager. I just wanted to die all the time. I couldn't understand like even if I didn't own the concept of of quote unquote. Mindfulness as a kid would have helped so much to just be like. Oh am having these feelings and feeling imagine yeah. Yeah I mean that's insane. I've read certain things about them trying to kind of incorporate that into schools now but yeah it. I'm sure it's all it's still experimental. Oh two and then parents get freaked out by it because nobody dad with two kids. uh-huh what's your what's your shame on you shame on you what's your what's your experience with this with sex ed in kind of like feeling twelve. So she's just kind of getting into that realm. I've talked about it before I've had some small conversations with her but what I find is that when I tried talked about emotionality and her feelings and stuff like that even at twelve. They're going through so many changes and I would say she's not the most open right now about her feelings in in trying to communicate that she can be. It's still a hard and I consider myself a pretty open guy and and and been very open about my feelings with her but it's still it takes time. It takes work for somebody to to do that. So My expectations when I get frustrated. Sometimes where AM I. I want you to be able to talk to me about when you're scared or when you're hurting and all that but she doesn't have the tools as yet and I feel like the only way that can help further that along as to keep asking is to keep showing her my side like talk about when I'm angry or sad. Her frustrated gamble give an example but I also know that my tools only go so far so there's a realm where I wish there was something that was really easy like a program. Graham that was easy to jump into whether it's as a family or the school or whatever because when you were talking about the sex Ed the question that I was GonNa ask you. That was the would that I would imagine. It would be frustrating. strating is they teach science. You split it up the girls and the guys and you sit there and you're like You're about to have your period and that's about to start your body's GonNa Change like I didn't know what a fucking period talk about sex a little bit scientific level. They don't touch if enough. I remember correctly and they didn't with my daughter when she went through it. They don't touch on the emotional side head of it they don't either like yes. You might make a baby yes you might get. STD's danger danger danger. Here's consequences but they don't talk about the beauty of it in the connection danger danger danger robot size so yeah I mean that was one of my biggest points is like how is it that when we're talking to new kids about this this very emotional topic that leg releases a bunch of emotions that you've no fucking idea how to handle. Why is there no warning or conversation station about that? So when you know danger when you Kinda fell off or got Disinterested in the teaching stuff were beaten down allows. You found a lot of wall like you hit a lot of walls with wanting to teach your kids and not getting permission to teach them and we are currently in a society where being a teacher. It's not something that's being cherished in imagined that so tough to deal with kids and they were like love. Your Teachers Gers and teachers are like superheroes and remember that being such a big thing and I remember respecting teachers and and letting them have the benefit of the doubt because they were humans trying to get their shit done to understand. Why just fall? Yeah I'll say this. I had really good relationships with My students and their families. I always felt very you like cherished in my classroom in Lake in what what I did But the system really crippled me from being able to just for instance I had kinder- first second and and third graders in my class and I was expected to all of them a complete education every year. Impossible can't do it so I have like teaching assistance. Who like adult employees in the class class and I have delayed break kids up based on ability but I can only teach one group at a time and these adults have to have no qualifications so I would walk by and catch my teaching teaching assistant teaching kindergarteners the wrong math? How to read incorrectly like our now to do math step off? Yeah like really bad just I really really bad. And there's no or maybe they. It's people aren't but you know the so the year before I started team teaching it all cleaned that a second My principal we were going to adopt this program. I'm called Renaissance. And it like I don't know if you guys had that like in middle school headed it's basically an extracurricular program teaches social responsibility so I would love that. Yeah so I'm principles like. Oh we're adopting renaissance in the district. She said I'm going to give it to you. You can do whatever you want with it. Because I know you've been wanting to create this extra curricular programme teach mindfulness and stuff. So she'd let me and I got to do that and it was for Gen. Ed Kids Fifth Graders your pick and choose what kids could be a part of it and it was before school every other Friday so for like an hour and it wasn't that long but we got to talk about mindfulness. I would like teach them yoga. We would just like start to identify. What our feelings are you talk about? Whatever just like morality and and there's people who get angry about that there's people that are like I don't want my kids learning that shit that's like that that's a soft shit that's GonNa make them not rough enough for the real world it also also makes it harder to To control your kids. He F- They start thinking for themselves. That's absolutely correct. Yeah I remember my brother having a struggle on whether he even wanted to teach his kids about Santa. I wasn't allowed to believe in Santa. So all your friends. Yeah well I would little Brat who would go to school and I'd be like guess what it's your parents like. Compare the handwriting. And that's my ma. CUT It out cut it. I get angry phone calls like can you please tell your daughter to stop ruining Christmas. Probably so sad to be like not on allowed to like pretend with all your friends I still Christmas is still living in the world to me but I never got to have that. I am sad. 'cause like how fucking magical to believe that this guy is gonna fly all. Would you got no idea. It's awesome but I mean but but the point the reason why I bring it up is because my brother was was like I don't know whether to teach my kids about San because it's so close to like you know the whole religious thing and it's so funny and then I have to do that. It's like do I want to do that. And and then it's like like you know Cassandra is kind of like God light right like religion light in a way or at least it's like hey can I would probably follow a little bit more religion if as promised presents. It's all time but the presence promised bringing back to religion but we are now. That's what I'm saying. Joe That's the idea. Is that the the idea of Santa is very close to the idea of. If you behave your reward is the present Behavior Award is heaven. And it's a scientist with coal if you don't right right warning friend Cole. He's a real. Did you have to listen to his Do some cold whole homes long poem episode to a good boy down the road. I should've been better boy. Gravelly at my toes I walked down the road. There's two hours of this But now it's like you know it's very close stuff but it's all about that idea of like Joe the reason why I even brought it up is because you were like letting your children go to something where you get to explore your feelings and explorer. You know social ideas could lead to your kid getting like too smart for my house you know and like and defying these rules that you've established in your mouth potentially the potentially unfair Environment Hayden. It's okay this is real. Listen to this but no I mean it's it's calm complex stuff because like as a parent. 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That's you know. nutrisweet does not teach forever. And I had to like really take growing tackling all the right decisions when you're seventeen. He's done. Yeah you can't grow. Yeah and and to like believe in my own ideas and believe in my own voice and stuff. That took a lot of like really intentional. Work and then I met one of my favorite Everett. Filmmakers Sean Don. I was a fan of his and then he went to a screening of his and when told him afterwards films meant to me and we became friends he became a mentor of Sorts. And then one of my documentary ideas was this and we were talking about it over skype and He was just like that's a great idea. If you make that Alexander produce it Ooh something like oh well the mark of approval of like literally my hero. Maybe this is something I can do so I decided to teach so that I could have two days a week to work on this and then I taught in the classroom three days a week and there was this woman shirl Watkins who was about to retire but she wasn't fully ready to retire so it worked for both of us And that was great but then at the end of that year she did retire and then I had to make choices. Scrap all the Progress I had made over the past year and go back to teaching full time or actually leave. Because I couldn't find anyone else who wanted to teach and that was really really difficult but I had already been lamenting the school system so much. I also like made no money and had such high student loan payments every month that like my friends who worked in bars always made more money than I did and lived like more like I wasn't able to like really live a life outside of the classroom which in bother me for the longest time that was my calling. And that's what I did with my time and energy But after a while it's like I'm working so fucking hard I heard like it's such a taxing. I loved it but as a taxing job and I just wasn't able to like have a life outside of it so sort of like all of these things combined signed especially with not being able like having to go back to full time teaching in scrap the Progress I had made. It just felt wrong. You sound like all of the interviews of those horribly sad bad like exit and reviews from teachers from Oklahoma this year that they like their school system dislike was falling apart no taxes going to the teachers. The pay was horrible and they were all like. This was my calling rolling but I can barely eat and there's books in the only reason they're supplies in the classroom is because we're paying. Yes hundreds of dollars every out of your own page. Yes so like in Oklahoma they all. I'll just we're ended up. There's like a massive shortage because they were like we can't live this way. I love my kids and I hate that. It might calling isn't going to be something that I get to follow right. Yeah but my friends at a bar make like more money man. How do we fix this shit because that sucks real bag and I know it's been a problem for a really long time and it's not a new thing to ask how to fix that but but nobody's thinking about it really because there's so much other shit going on but really the change of this world begins with kids for sure? I think if we ignore the problems will fix yeah. They'll be transferred gone Johnny you had to make a very tough decision Um but you decided to shift your focus on help still helping yeah. I wanted to try to help improve the school system from the outside. 'cause I really didn't have any any power from within I. I tried to change a lot of things about it. Change a lot of things but I tried to like improve things. Even I tried to create a website so that special ed teachers could share Ideas they came in their classroom in the district. Shut it down. They were like you could upload anything on this website Noida regulate it just like. Wow what does that even that motivated by you. Think not to get a two into the saying no. Oh because school districts in litigation with tons of families as adult types especially for kids with special needs like they all every kid with special needs has a legal document called the and like they are being sued left and Ryan and there there's so much fear of litigation that they so I that was a risk for them to allow a tenured teacher feature to create a website for other teachers to use in the district. Because I could technically upload nudes and then it would they come back on them. You know what I mean. They just they the other thing on top of all the other shit. They're dealing so stupid so anyway I was like I'm going to try to make this and build a platform and just try to connect with people who are doing in this work and help with it and basically the film that I finished. I pointed to that like the film is on that camera. I don't know what that's part of the whole rest of it is on awards over one card and we've seen sorry that didn't hold back. Is it cold. Yeah so you decided to attack it from the outside. Yeah so what so. That's what this whole thing is kind of just like shine light on an on an area of education that is seldom. Yeah Joan what would you say is the. What's the overall thesis Lisa Statement of the film? So what I ended up doing with this. It's the third iteration of this project. Originally I wanted to talk to lake current and former products the school system. I wanted to talk to kids and young adults and I did get access to some of them but getting them to open up about this on camera tricky. I didn't have like I didn't have everything I needed to make get what I wanted it to be. What I ended up doing is this film is called Hoosier teacher and I talk to six adult film stars about okay? Let me back up. I read an article article in my research for this project because I just had google alerts for sex ED laws and American stuff by a French film star named Nikita Baluchi. And she's. He's live it in this article. She's like I get messages from young people all the time asking me like. Why does my body do this? What does this mean I want to do this? And how do I do it. And she's like. I'm not an educator educator. I'm a porn star parents. Teachers do your fucking job. These questions should be coming to me. And just that really stood out to me. I found that very compelling I save article a thought about it a lot and so the the this film is talking to adult film stars about the messages. They received from young people and how they've been thrust into the role of pseudo educator because because there's a dearth of education and of Education God. We'll be right back pots. In fact this episode is brought to you by quiz. Look the gross out. Good was so fucking. The eighty percent of the real estate in that restaurant was a big Ole oven. They had some fucking steak sandwich. Take that sausage steak as those sauces. Mama Mia searches. Yeah yeah yeah quizzes still around. I mean maybe not around here. No I don't think I also love to their commercials with those little weird. Yeah I loved I loved it it was almost like they were what if it was the Mandela fact and it never existed and we all like remember it but we can't what a day where the Berendsen bears stain Joe so will bear stains. That's so interesting. So do you think that that's the the issue with Litigation against School districts bricks. And things like that. Do you think that that's that's the that's the number one problem with getting new curriculum. No it's that we live in a Christian nation and especially especially like the school system government or hug government organization. Like all out of here and I'm going to pray. Pray pray for you. You're obviously sick all over our like it's a it's a Christian career like for the most part like it attracts certain types of people and I think people higher up like creating education for for this country like I think typically they're conservative people And we are. I say we with this like trying to roll out a better more comprehensive curriculum were up against just conservativism. Yeah I think that that's the main hurdle because people are so afraid of sex. Why because the Bible says it's bat in these ways it's literally goes back to that? That's that's why I was raised thinking it was so wrong. It's a sin you know. Have you seen the big mouth episode on sex ED. I just started watching. I haven't started three episodes. Aren't that all of them. kind of like. What do you mean one specific episode? Where coach Steve Plays is the sex Ed teacher and he quickly realizes that the students know more about it than he does? And then there's a number of musical numbers that sort of explained different ideas about Steve Indeed about sexual orientation and all that stuff and It's very good. Yeah if you get a chance to check it out but then at the very end they do make a joke where nick rolls his like. And lastly we wanted to say thank you to the liberal agenda for allowing us. Make these jokes even though we didn't really want to. But you asked us to. We're going to so you tweet sued by. Its own the fact that they were basically trying to be educational this episode while going. We're going to get so much traffic. It's very fun you I think you would enjoy. You know everything. You're saying. People recommend big math to me. Lots typically because of this project and I've only watched three episodes at the end of my story. Do you feel like So if you're battling more or less a conservative ideals do you feel like having porn stars. Be kind of like your voice. This is kind of a taboo yet a little naughty. Okay so this is. This is my goal with the with this dome. I want this to get the attention of I. Don't know whatever producers like anyone that would want to help me make this into a series and the series I want to explore sex ED laws across the country and have it more be more family oriented and stuff this I wanNA use as a door opener and a way to connect to people and hopefully you know it's good enough. I think it's good and the feedback I've received is that it's good and it's moving and stuff i. I hope that it's titillating enough and interesting enough that other adults with resources. I don't have a want to team up with me. And then I'll make something more palatable for the thanks to hook unless it's about totally sex interesting perspective to to kind of go to the adult. The adult film industry in the sense that it's like like you know that industry is here to stay. It's not going anywhere and their sex workers and they're providing a service that is you know let's face it. It's a service that is that works works necessary in that industry to has gone from with the Internet becoming the most popular thing in the world. The connection that the viewer has the to the porn star is now stronger than it was back in long ago. So that means people when they do have a question are more going to be more likely to be like. Oh I know Oh this person is. I'm going to ask them this question and it's a safe environment. They know I know they experienced there clearly. Okay talking about how twitter account where they talk about this stomachs fast Madison as afraid. They're not afraid it's almost like going to a source in a way what's interesting too is that I wanted to talk to teachers administrators. It was hard for me as a teacher to get other teachers to WanNa talk to me about this on camera. The when I finally went to the porn stars that was when I all of a sudden got a bunch of yeses I even had to go to the porn stars get bigger also lose their job real quick if parents find out based sad. Yeah it's so sad because it's like our and I haven't seen I don't need to keep saying I say this in the documentary but like it is such a fun. It's just our humanity like it becomes sexuality later but these things that start to like pop up these like these curiosities or like feelings or whatever. It's just human. There's nothing shameful about it. What is shameful as if we don't educate and we allow those feelings and desires to become weaponized which they kind of naturally do you know like one of the things things I said at the screening is there was a kid a Gen Ed kid at the school I taught at who was Suspended because in fifth grade for shouting to a girl on on the playground. Your thighs are thick like my big juicy. Dick Holy Shit I. Google didn't like not like he presumably made that. I apologize that that was that was awful so but like so. He's joking looking right keeping but he's already weaponising this deeply personal and possibly problematic and can be very destructive topic you know And and that comes so naturally also with like when I was in fifth grade we had a thing at my school an unofficial holiday if you will called Friday flip update update if you wore a skirt on Friday. You're going to skirt fucking flipped up. 'cause that's what it is and the boys are going to do it so you know shit. You don't wear a skirt on Friday but I remember one time. I've forgotten a worse skirt on Friday and I like came to school and I went with. Oh no like it's ready for daylight. Everyone's GonNa see my underwear recess and I just spent the day feeling like so insecure and scared and then just had. I do allow it to happen because I should have known Dan. We're in a skirt and got my asshole. If you don't participate and I never never crossed my mind because I wasn't educated about this topic like my body and my space and boundaries and consent wasn't a thing I knew about I was just like getting flipped up the other in the flip burgers and the all flippers and flip. The none of them were taught about it. I mean you know are you. Are you optimistic in the pro. Like following having made this thing. Are you optimistic about where the the direction going or or is it sort of like defcon uphill battle. You know I'll say I think I'm pretty realistic. With tinge of optimism I you know like the the mindset that I'm up against a used to be up against it. I was raised by it so I feel sort of like trained to deal with it a so I'm not afraid But already like the film isn't even out and I've partnered with this company called bloom that makes they used to just make like cosmetics the only period products for women and now they've really expanded and they are. They are launching twenty twenty campaign to get better curriculum. The school district so like I'm one of their partners and they put me on their website. And they're going to help me. I'm GONNA help help them. They also make conversation cards that you can buy for your kids start conversations and help you just bridge these topics you know. So you're so what would your looting to a little bit is. You can't save everybody but there are options. And if you feel like cure parent that struggling with how to teach their child about these things there are options and there are ways to kind of navigate. This you know not to not to lake villain is this conservative ideal but it but in a sense it's like you know that's that's the whole thing. We all have our idea of how things should go. And how how we should teach your children and how we should be more open about sexuality because in the long run we think it would be a better thing to do but there are a lot of people that believe that. That's not the way to do it. And I don't think that's ever GonNa Change. I would also add that. I'm not a parent so I don't know the sense or the fear that comes with wonder what people are going to tell your kid that you have no control and it's terrifying. Yeah yeah so I can understand it as a knee jerk reaction to an extent but I think what happens is the villain izing like everyone seems to be coming at it from what you're saying saying from from this angle like with a very good heart of like actually being like no. This is like okay like we can actually talk about this. And like you know normalize a little bit and it just sucks it gets so vitriolic in them and I think that's how that changes if that can change is just by implementing new curriculum and people by word of mouth would ever seen that. It's helping anything. Worse is fascinating that there's the the angle of the adult film world being an answer to do for for young people to to come to them to ask questions because it's interesting because you know obviously with the Internet pornography is such an easy anything to access and our children. Really tell me more will joe. There's this place right. WWW DOT dot com all right But it's it's so fascinating to me that of course there would be people going to porn stars. Of course there would be because these are those people that are like so open that they're showing parts of their body that you didn't even know you could show on Rose sensually and these people are so comfortable with their bodies and with the function of their uh of their reproductive organs and such and it's it's it's so fascinating then. Of course that would be a place for Sir more questions like how to maybe start a small business and opened up a corporation through Delaware. Feel like if this open about sex the great question right back the any PR classes well. It's one thing I realized when doing this project is like we've all turned to. We are having sex. Because we've seen people in porn have sex like imagine how different the type of sex you would be. If you hadn't watched touched people have sex. Robots imaginative robot literally interacting. That way which is wild to me like all doing what we've seen important all yeah totally t to some degree in to to the detriment of those receiving receive on the receiving end of young. I just wanted to make sure what is the normal right is it. Except if we're doing with the Porn Stars do because we've seen them do that means. According to the multi-purpose theory there is a universe versus where the porn stars are all watching us. And the funny born Yeah and they're watching our lives. Yeah be hindered by not being there their sexuality there was a porn star whose only information was based on what he'd see me do I watch him. and I write a Sitcom L. A.. World where Porn Porn Stars and the sex world is is the number one open public like industry and the porn warns ours are watching people live their lives in a supine on unsettling open way and they're like look at those people struggling with that shit because they don't just yeah. I love that. That's the point kind of what you're what you're saying with your thing here right like with your with your document I ask. What is the thing that you learned learned? The most from making your movie was the thing that opened your eyes or the biggest surprise way. Can I play the music while you say jarver walters show Bro Job I'm just real wide onto play. I'm not say Barbara Baretta original bread. I feel like for the most part. My concerns and assumptions about the topic were verified just that. No one gets the information that they need and we all are struggling with like everyone. I spoke to sort of like became interested in sex at a really young age wasn't allowed to know about it. It became weaponized. Got Really Weird. I heard They were formally educated about it years and years later but barely and led to the detriment of their lives. Like all of that was Confirmed and I think I don't know my I think my biggest takeaway is like. This is so necessary. It's it's actually unbelievable and totally unacceptable that it doesn't already exist and I started this project before me to like a year before me too. Yeah and then metoo started and I was like this. This is fucking it. Yes of course actually fucking monsters because nobody's training us not to were avoiding this topic and now it's like it is A It's a problem. Yeah like in a in a way that wasn't on the surface before that not everybody was -ticipant total as a as a society right. which makes you worry about future things that we're not currently not worrying about but this is something that has definitely come to a head and is going to be a very very major bad problem if we don't figure exactly out of it feels very timely And so I feel I feel like aligned with Lake I I feel personally aligned on this project because of when I started it in sort of what has happened since year. There's a book I read called. Oh how creative creative clifford goes. It's called the creative planned. Parenthood and can't get through the door but they still helped him and It was beautiful but it's Yeah it's about how when people are considered it quote unquote genius or they're considered successful. It's when they're doing a project that has a unique quality to it that is in line with the culture culture at the time but there's no way way to plan on the Culture Park because you don't know GonNa like you're saying a line so it's cool that that's happening because it's a nice confirming like you know it's it's a good shot to get something up and going Lincoln get you momentum. What if you weren't I mean you're talking about like this sort of having like a hook to it and they're being a follow up or something in the future that's like different is their stuff? You've just in other areas period that you I mean if you were wanting to be a documentary filmmaker other just like what else would you love to explore or I like started and stopped. It's all just about having the resources to do stuff and also having the experience I mean. This is the thing that made I was teacher. You know I was going to make a short about what's it called when you have sensitivity to electron ix golfing. Yeah they touch on that It's it's it's An acronym I I was in the airport like two weeks ago and I was at a bar and this guy was talking on his cell phone next to me and then this woman who was sitting at a table directly behind just because excuse me sir. Excuse me Sir. Can you not choose. What can you not have your cell phone around me? I I'm allergic allergic to the radioactivity. And he didn't hear it all and I was GonNa get and then he turns around she. She like Sir. Please turn away from me or get off your cell phone Salaam. He was like Oh okay. Sure and then everyone is. The Bar was just like I don't know I don't know exactly what happened here but I I mean I don't know anything about I witnessed that. Yeah wow a woman straight up you have to get off your cell. He was like right and he was. He had no idea he was living. Being a little irresponsible just willy nilly going into public without some sort of lake. You're if you're going to be in a public place where we're going to be on there. I mean it's I mean. I know nothing about my my assumptions. There's always some kind of either. It's a psychosomatic. Go semantic thing or it's an actual thing I don't want to hold I'm about to be fascinating. EHS electromagnetic hypersensitivity. Yes so here's what I I think about it so basically I had a production partner and we were going to make it so I did a bunch of research about unlike plan that out and then what I have noticed Since leaving teaching in starting projects is that they all fall through for like. Oh let's do this and then they back out at the last minute. That's happened to me so many times. it's fine. You know I'll keep going going but I think it's just a thing it could be. Both you know it could be like a little bit psychosomatic. Maybe for some people. It isn't for other people. It's legit I just think technologies analogies to new for us to be like there's no scientific evidence to say that it's real it's like we'll just maybe not yet like. I don't think that anyone is putting a lot of money into determining this is Israeli. Not In the story is I've read. They sound legit. I mean like to the point where somebody who has will somebody with a phone can walk in the room. and they'll truly vomit. Yeah I'm a big believer in the The unconscious manifesting physical. Things are real like it's not like I think you're lying. I lean on the side of it'd be like I'm very curious what you have going on science links mental disorders as ICAL attribute. Like you know there. There is a connection between mental and physical pain being connected with like anxiety. Or what have you so hard to talk about because you know I. The truth is what is happening. There's just so many things you don't understand about how and we all have unique perceptions of everything and we all have unique experiences and we just have to be somehow more mindful of that because we all we all like to tell each other like how each other feels heels based on our own experience like I've never experienced that and I haven't heard of anyone experiencing that must not be real and it's like you know one of our friends has lime disease in so she's been dealing with this for the past year which is just like you will be in Lake Sweetie. You're fine and she's like On my left side of my body is going on. I can't think straight I'm forgetting the name of basic objects have no energy. I'm not fine like something's going on So I think comparable actually lime disease address. What is this that you brought with you? Oh my God so this. Was this the best time I know I I remember those times. Would you take you know I we were talking about this the other day. Actually we were like. Can we remember what we brought to show Intel. And I'm pretty sure I I would just bring my ghostbusters toy like if I had like a new ghostbusters toy dizzy got yeah. Cool's bank man. He's pretty cool because he's a scientist. And when you put his hand down his head pops up and his tongue comes out so because WanNa see it at recess the best I I love kids so this is my thing. I made it fidgeting pockets in what was that four the psychology behind show and tells it just to give people time for their interests and stuff and and also just yeah expressing yourself and sharing I mean like Dope Shit those are all stories like the Dope Shit they have but you know how it feels so go remember how fun felt good. It'd be able to nourish stuff like that where kids get to express themselves and with that expression connect to other kids and sort of like build these bonds based on common interests. I used to make sketches with my brother. We made like weird muppet show. Puppet sketches and then we did like like all that type sketches sketches together and with our friends and stuff and my teacher love them so much they she let me play them in class. Sometimes a good teacher an emmy a gave me you like a little bit of it. It helped me prepare for like an audience and that kind of big showing off my creativity and being proud of my thing and you know it's always fun to show someone on something that you worked really hard on and then you get to show a whole audience I got I got a taste of that as a kid because of some pretty cool teachers shout out to. What's her Ms Burke Ms Berg and she was an artist? She's an art teacher through and through but she taught us like regular stuff because it was a Catholic school so it was like whatever the curriculum is when you're like in in fifth or sixth grade or something or sixth grade. I guess yeah maybe even third ship anyway okay so anyway. This is a compilation of love. Okay so some teachers will handle the sex Ed topic by like creating a question box of the kids. Don't have to ask the questions out loud and be embarrassed Actually the interviewed a teacher. Who did it that way? This was given to me This this is a compilation of questions from a fifth grade. Inner City class just about sex and We Woo who gave this to. I'm sorry so Our friend Carlos has its friends. I guess with the teacher who made this. And there's a tumbler called. I think it's called. What do you sack doc? Or what do you think that was one of the questions And he printed it out and when he knows making projects like here like my contributes say read some of them in the documentary. By kinda just want one of you to go through. What if we let you? Okay so those closer is Donald just read music or is this should this be on. Its Own Mola let live on. Its own alright. So here's my p I'll read a couple of pass it on So this is fifth grade fifth grade or girls or both okay. So I'll read a couple of this page that I stopped off. Yeah give me some music. Okay sure what kind of music you look like this like that nice stuff goes. Okay hold on hold on. I'm getting some nice stuff for Joe I S. A.. Love all of that that printing the handwriting's great some of them are very good. Sir Good yeah the misspellings or so perfect. This is from unabridged. Why does the mouth enter the penis? I think we've used this here. We go read this book. uh-huh out loud but we're we're being respectful moved by what part of woman's body gets horny. It's a great question. I don't even know the answer to that. Do it right so hold thank old big. Yeah you're right. Are there any metal dildos. Yes yes are there wouldn buildouts yes. Dod Let's that's Dell does Dow does that's it no. There's so many no but that was oh those are all questions. What's the difference between Lena? Virgin an abstinence if a girl has her period and she has sex what happens to her. That's a great question. These are questions question. Yeah that's on the anthem. It must be burned at the state. Women's heretic do they get Gore creek haired. Oh when to women's do this. Such a good one listened to women's do sex. Do they get pregnant. Both why or why. Not let pregnant spelled P. R. I C. N. I. C. Britain pregnant. He'll get you prick we. That's such a great question. Good good because they're smart. Patty for information critical thinkers so much such a good point. Yeah there's so much asking them out then they're ready for it. Please make a slow jam for me. Just a slow jam sex song all in one nineteen ninety S. R&B COLUMN ON. Get you prick all right. Here's one why does some people have twins why how can and women this is during sex of course and how could a woman have six babies. Why I like the why? Why Here's my favorite. What is your favorite mall? And why I say ball when a other person has I do sex with that person Jason. How does it pass to the other person? That's a great question. How spoke to him out? They give me this. Give me this boo fine. My question was in there would have been. I'm really afraid of going. PP The in women during sex. How do I do that? Why do people has to kiss? Oh Oh that's really sweet. Why do people kiss? And why do we have to decide. Deep Music feels creepy. Now the exchange did change. Hang on let me see. You think that's too sexual music. Okay Bruton we'll get your pragmatic why girl like the sperm. I mean that's the question isn't it. Clifford adventure one. If your sister or brother tease you what do you do. I think that's beat. Additionally there's a question in there it says. Do you like being punished. Why do girls Skram when they have sex scrim? Skram make use grams grams from like the eighties. Why is the penis so big when they do sex? Does the girls hair gets stuck in the boys. Peanut that's enough class today. Yes yes how many. I think it's a drawing of a sperm. How many sperm of this thing go into a girl body? Wow so this is wonderful I will. I WanNa read this whole thing and it brings back weird memories of like. Yeah now you have no idea can misdee- does the woman get all their spur in her and or just one. Pick your favorite. Why does as people get horny? That's a great question. Why does sex is important for people? Yeah someone's someone's excited about is a condom bad word. Wow I remember getting in trouble for saying Pussy how old I forty five church. It was my last birthday. I don't know I was pretty young. Though harsh words I was a kid I remember i. I hate that word condoms. Just a thing so I think we'll look more but condom is like. Why do you know that why you know the word condom? Where did did you hear it? So taboo the the way. We all grew up. I would say if I were to go out and buy them today. They're still be a part of me when I put them down I would feel a little weird. I would eventually get to the part where I'm like. I'm a big boy and I'm an onus and I feel good in my hands are on my hips and I'm happy. Look at me by calm but I know I still like that. I would still getting Zaidi. It feels like I'm like twenty two again but I kind of I don't mind that either where it's like. Yeah Oh you think I'm like really like this is crazy crazy. This man is a very boring. Act Listen to this one. You know those Angelina billboards you see all over Hollywood with that woman showing her breasts. What's she trying to sell? I did not remember. Maybe I did. So Oh well it must be a woman Angelina Lane. And she's just there you know I'm sure I will recognize is if the dude ask grace about it. Yeah I'm thinking about you. Know Angelina is a Hollywood. Like land. Wonderful clinical with the Pink Corvette Pink Corvette. Oh Okay Yeah. So so. She's not selling and it's not like an adult. She's in her own image. She's still she's like she's basically like like an instagram higher. Doing appear now say that she may be did sex work back in the day one now. She's just kind of like a little celebrity seventy but she's also tight-lip so like nobody can do an interview with her. She doesn't people talk to her. She went back to. It's not know if that's an actual fact. You Guys WanNa hear some more before we close out there. Let's have you read some. There are so many bestiality reality ones so I hope I got the beast Ya'll one there's one that says If you have sex with a cow and the cow virgin does the cows scream and and then there's one about having sex with a dog Away Oh that says e why does the girl like to eat the sperm. What is this about a dog? I see doll okay. Okay Kata Kit off of eleven of eleven years old could do sex with a nineteen years old girled or could a boy do sex with the dog. Here's one of them he's like what am I feel like. You just asked me seventy working at Cole go rhino in proximity to a dog and a nineteen year rolled. And who's Blake. which way should I go for the nineteen year old girl or the scene? The thing that's like sorry to be two tangent essential but just really quick. You know drew. Barrymore's olive the other reindeer. He has heard about that Jubran. Judy blume Barry Moore wrote of Children's book called all live the other reindeer take on the song. Aw Love the there a So it's about this other reindeer amongst the Rudolf crew and it's like a kid story. What if we did coal about the guy that the coal hole for Christmas is based off of and his name is Cole? And he's grumpy guy and he's the reason why you get coal for Christmas. Just give it away. Secre guy who's sitting on the set of questions are like directly from the kids to the teachers and this one just says in block letters your breast star bag also this row from the second row on your left to the fifth chair straight up like he's like pointing. Yeah I sat at. Yeah I know this is what works this one says. Why did the boys get more? Power was the same the teacher. You must be a dog. 'cause I'm whole there's another dog this says why do the boys get more power to do the same. WHOA that's that's some woke kid? Yeah the says how to dogs do it. What is the hair for on the Jonah and the penis? How big is the vagina whole Kenny? p. out the sperm Berg. What is there for the China and the pianist do we keep bacteria away? It's supposed to be like kind of like your eyelashes supposed to keep they care debris it's it down whatever you want to house bacteria and keep it out of the private arriving. Just keep it all right there. Yeah bacter- don't touch my hair. It's all bacteria and display bacteria. It's like Baleen but instead of the real like yes Steve. John's love. Does it feel good when they suck your penis. I mean I can answer that look. Why do a woman's vagina smell? Yeah yeah good question. It is what it be. Mrs Smell to buddy. Yeah can we get some equality up. Yeah here On anyway what a lovely podcast. Very great I I love Being able to talk more with you about your passions and learn more about you. You're a wonderful person that I love having in my life. You're a great friend and on IAN I. We had a shared experience with a neighbor who was having a panic attack who came to my door and was like I'm having a panic attack. Can you help me and can you tell. Can you have my friends phone number. Just in case something happens to me and it was really my all have sex with dog. Thank God you were there. It was scary moment and I was like of course man let me know if you need anything and I was like breathing your nose out through your mouth and he was a gay and then he like he he's like thank you and then he laughed and I came back in and we're with some friends at my place and straight up like is everything. Okay is that person okay and I was like. I think he's having a panic attack and she's like let's go so let's take care of this guy now and so we went out and we knocked on his door and he opened it and then we sat out in the Hall of my apartment complex where this guy lived and we just like talk talk to him and let him breathe into paperback I. You gave them a paper bag and you're like breathing to this and regulate your breathing and really pay attention. You're breathing and then we just like talked to him man and you're such a big helper in that you just like. Let's talk to this guy. Let's let him talk about. And then you start talking about his his likes and his and he started talking about his things that he's interested in and it really got his mind off of like the panic attack. which is really what you have to do you kind of have to distract yourself? That's that's that's the quickest way. I've found to kind kind of break out of a panic attack. It's hard but you know it's one. It's a tactic if you but yeah but I'm sorry I I mean there was no real point to the story other than you're such a wonderful person and I'm thankful to have you in my life and thank you for that moment. It was a wonderful moment. Thank you thank you. I have a podcast pitch for you. We made a like. We had fun on reading this and it was But I think it's a big deal. These are these questions are real for a bunch of young kids looking for answers. PODCAST pitch is called big questions big penis and some of your friends and and sitting down and doing five or six of these questions as crazy as a question could be as normal as a question could be in. It's it's aimed at the kids that are that are looking for answers on these stuff and it's an educational podcast. A podcast questions and I will incorporate accessible accessible. Yeah I had a CO host names Tasr. She's a brilliant woman We've been in the works for a while. We were planning on launching the beginning of next year. Nice slowly want want a platform to be able to talk about this and She's like a really brilliant woman of color there's diversity I'm also very aware of not placing myself in the middle of a conversation. That's it's not about me like being a white person in America right now and stuff so I just want to like bring other voices in and that is brilliant and we will have that breezy absolutely. Yeah because there are. There's every kid that asked. I asked one of these questions as crazy as they are. Aren't the only kid right and it's going fusing for a lot of them We'll onny thank you for incoming and thank you for talking to us and we love to have you come back and talk more about your film when it's done and say the website please okay can I have a trailer on the website. The website is who's your teacher project DOT COM And there is there are three links below. There's an instagram that I update. And then there's a go fund me link if you'd like to donate we. We still enjoys a little bit of money and then the third link is just if you WanNa stay updated so like when I'm able to release the film or whatever sort of news I get you can like be on the mailing list and you'll stay updated because unfortunately I can't the movie right now if you look on it. Yeah thank you for sitting with us you know wonderful time. Please come back and thank you guys for listening and we we We appreciate your continued support. And if you're interested in supporting Auni please check out all of her stuff. And what's your instagram for people that they want to check My personal instagram is nimble will and that's sort of where I funnel most things through in their links to the documentary on there but it's an im B.. L. E. W. I l. l.. Also definitely follow. We're on instagram. If you want a semi regular daily dose of Inspirational things and and just shout outs to good people that you should be following in listening to in getting information from a lovely place to feel better about yourself. I'd like to say I could And one we're going to ended up with a shoutout to jared Lombardo embardo from our patriot. He's one of the people at a tier where we do shots for their work. He wants to know why does the mouth he said I would love if you guys could chat out my thesis film in the link below its unlisted video for now but we'll have it listed in the description you can click on it and watch it He wants to submit it to film. Festivals was and whatnot and It's it's super public. Could get disqualified. So don't share the link ago Watch it He says I worked really hard on it. And honestly just want people to see it because it's Ah All that getting a degree in film is good for. It's not a comedy and couldn't be further from your content but maybe after I make people sad they'll go back to your content to feel the joy once again So go check it out. I watched it. It's really it is. It is not a comedy but the actors in it are very good and He did a great job on the most of the stuff. We like tends to be not like the stuff that we because it's nice to see we see this shit all day. It's nice to see something. So shout out jared go check out is working. Leave him some nice calm all the patrons patrons who have signed backup we were sending messages very sweet for those of you who wanted to refund because of our timing before We're working with pay. That all figured out. I don't think that we're not seeing that. And we love you and thank. Thank you and we're going to have as we end this year and I'd like to end on select by saying where's the CAT uh-huh.

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"What's going on everybody? I'm molly cameras and you're listening to the first take podcast when I'm hosting game night. which is often? I always go with Tyson. Any ties irs chicken snacks. They're made with all white meat chicken. They've got bold flavors like honey barbecue and Buffalo Bites. That are sure to please your entire crowd. Even if they're picky. Why settle for chips and dip when you can serve something in your guests will really love next time? You're shopping for your tailgate food. Make sure to stock your freezer with Tyson. Any ties irs. What's going on? I take fan. Make sure weekdays ten name eastern on. ESPN lock to discuss today. How bad is the cheating scandal for baseball? And what's next and leuke calls it a career at age twenty eight should the NFL be concerned about about stars exiting the game early plus Cowboy Surani joins US ahead of his big. UFC fight against Conor McGregor. Back in the octagon after a year the boy. Do we have a lot to unpack here. What's going on everybody? Welcome into I take. Thank you for hanging with us. Mollica M. Rose Kellerman NYC. Hello morning how are are we Steven A.. On the road. How we doing? So what's up. Good Morning Good Morning Guys. Let's get after the big story. We start with more bad adnew coming from Major League Baseball. Here's the deal Alex. Cora is out as the manager of the Boston. Red Sox in a statement. The team said that both they incur mutually agreed to part ways and MLB investigation named core. Who is the Astros? Bench coach is being instrumental in the two thousand seventeen signed stealing scandal. Core was manager of the two thousand eighteen. Red Sox world series team that also prompted. And then they'll be investigation for using video room to steal signs so baseball has levied stiff penalties against the astros throws walls. One year suspensions for both manager. Aj hinch GM. Jeff Liu now both hinch Lou now were subsequently fired by the team Max. I'll start with you here. What are your thoughts on the firing Alex? Cora had to happen as I said yesterday. I'm a Yankees Fan and the Astros Champs. Seventeen the red sox in eighteen the Yankees played them. Both in the playoffs had Leeds on them both and especially against against Houston only lost at Houston. And you heard CICI's about the echo that sentiment his frustration that he could have had one too. Yeah I hear dodgers fans really upset on the Yankees Fan on at least as upset as dodgers fans and those are the two that really got hurt and by the Way New York Los Angeles world series. You would think think that's also good for the business. A major league baseball. I want to be very clear why this is a scandal. Unlike some other cheating scandals you you know I mentioned yesterday. Stephen A. that steroids and human growth hormone the difference between that and amphetamines. Or whatever else is that. They fundamentally change inch players into things they were not they could double the home run at that ratio of a thirty five year. Old loonies supposed to be in decline of tournament to power hitter. He never was as great as bond Sosa and mcgwire wire were obviously cheating changed them. You brought up the counterpoint. But Max everyone had access to it and and a lot of the major leagues. We're doing here is what the issue is with signs dealing in this case Stephen. It's not simply that they're stealing signs if you're trying to peek getting catch the catcher side and he tips and he doesn't do a good enough job covering it that's on him good for you. It's that your home ballpark. You're using technology technology that only you have access to and against which the other team has no defense. There's nothing you can do to counteract what they're doing and only we have the access to it. It is reasonable and highly likely to that you would think that that actually gives them an advantage in the game that decides decides games. That's what's egregious about this core ahead to go astros personnel had to go you know manager. GM and if this spreads anywhere else where it spreads the anyone any other party that was doing this also is going to have to go. There's nothing about this in terms of what you just said that I would refute in any way what I would tell us that my mind is in a different place and but I mean by. That is clearly Alex Cora had to go. Oh but I wanna stay on national television. He should be ashamed of himself. He really really should Obviously the general manager is gone off the Houston and Aj hinch manager is gone as well But Alex Cora if you talk to anybody in baseball which I obviously have Max they will tell you. He's is a baseball. Lifer this guy has been around baseball all his life he loved game. He's incredibly familiar with tradition with the traditions that come along with the game. He repeatedly talked about what he owed the game. What the game has done for him etc and obviously no one guy like him who has so many friends throughout Major League Baseball? You know good and damn well where you crossing the line and clearly in this particular instance his willingness willingness to do so is just so egregious because you cheat in the competition and that's really what it comes down to Alex Cora somebody today there should have to listen to the Tabatha is of the world who alluded to or flat out spoke about knowing that he had an opportunity at a championship late in his career. You're talking about legacies doubt. Oh that that were compromised Dollars additional dollars that would be in people's pockets walking around like a champion knowing that you've earned it and Alex Alex Cora appears to have gone against all of that you know in terms of implementing the scheme and having subordinates work under him to really tip off hitters and one of the other things I wanted to mention this this we talked about a man to manages of lost their job. A general manager has lost their job. I want to know what kind of ramifications nations the players are going to suffer from clearly they were complicit in this because guess what if you hear that banging on the trash can as a player you knew what it meant. You know listening to Tim. Kirk get up an hour. Go what did he say Max he said. Guys like CAL ripken junior guys like Tony Gwynn and others. They the one at age they didn't WanNa know about an edge. They didn't want anybody coming to them with assistance from technology. Talking about what was noticed. Or what have you that. Could off ultimately elevate their chances at success they want to know parts of that. It's me against you. Let's get it on. I'm the one up at bat right now and I'M GONNA go down swinging figuratively literally and otherwise. That's what I'm going to do. Clearly the Houston Astros. Were not a team rife with individuals that had that Katamon Katamon talented. They will willing to benefit off of it. Which is why they smacked an exorbitant? Amount of home runs when they were admitted made parks which is why they scored eighteen Russia. Twenty six minutes with its own runs over a span of two games against an Ace Los Angeles dodgers squad when that two game stretch they clearly he didn't mind. When are we going to hear about these players suffering some consequences? I sincerely hope that we do. Because they were clearly complicit they they are not innocent in all of this stop here and the shame is like the red sox maybe could have beaten the Yankees without cheating in eighteen. Maybe I don't know but the tarnishes like I throw that out now. I don't think the Astros would have I think the astro certainly lose that series without cheating seventeen yep and then also marked share that on get up. I don't know if you guys heard that Carlos Beltran is the one that needs to go next of course being involved in this Max let me ask you this. We have the PD scandal in now. Now we have this. How bad is this baseball? This is actually good for baseball. Molly how well number one and I can tell you as a boxing fan. You know Baseball's in the national news you say but not for this. That's right not for this. Were baseball to have mishandled the situation. But if you look at the how quickly quickly the reaction came down and how horseshoe. I've heard a lot of people talk about. It wasn't harsh enough. The astros their manager and GM are both gone. You could say well. That's an internal decision. They've lost their first and second round draft picks in two thousand twenty and twenty one and baseball is once upon a time. Something you'd find deals later in the draft. It's much much harder nowadays. They have they have it down much better. Now when you lose your first and second draft picks four potential franchise level players or real solid contributing. Could be eating starters. In the near future to a franchise especially an analytics driven franchise like the Astros that look at all the young talent. They drafted in recent recent years. That could be devastating. And I think that you you love baseball on the brain and even though well that these teams were cheating it's a bad thing but they're looking at the response and thinking okay. I'm thinking about baseball and I see they're not playing games in the major leagues. You mess around. It's GONNA come fast. It's talking to investigation for ten years with some slap on the wrist. It's going to be fast. And it's GonNa be harsh Stephen well well. In in terms of love is a league. Who looks better or worse? You GotTa Give Props Major League Baseball. Because they look like. They're handling their business which somewhat challenge the NFL on without question question. But I'm not going to sit up. The say. Baseball looks good today. Hell no they look incredibly bad. Because here's why Max. We're talking about America's national past Tom. We're talking about the one league that had antitrust laws and its favors for decades. We're talking about a league. That used that cachet that they they had with politicians and beyond since the nineteen twenties and used it to shield themselves from the shrapnel of criticism and in an skepticism that every other league had to subject had to be subjected to over several decades. It was baseball that had that steroid scandal if it were not for baseball the NFL and and lay commissioner David Stern or the NBA would never have had to go up to Capitol Hill to address issues choosing defend themselves. It was baseball with the amphetamines crisis. It's baseball compromise. Its own history with numbers. It's baseball that had a powerful players. As Union to shield the players from a level of scrutiny. They may have deserve that allowed them to get away with stuff. No other league could get away with and it's baseball. They should have had the eye of the storm on them. Instead of leagues that are predominantly black by the way like to like the National Football League and the National Basketball Association with the level of scrutiny. That they were subjected to and baseball got away with it and subtly when it stops real quick. Here we go again Fonda yet another mechanism that they use is to cheat in ways that would never be tolerated from other leagues. Went to talk about this. I think we need to talk about more about this later in the show Steven because I think you bring up a great join when you compare it to the NFL and the way the NFL has reacted to cheating. Controversies no question what's going on everybody. I'm only care Rosie. You're listening to the first take podcast. Everybody has taxes to do right and they are so annoying and yet not. Everybody feels comfortable doing their own taxes. which doesn't even seem right especially when you consider all the amazing things? The same people accomplish every day of their lives. Turbo tax believes that with the right tools and encouragement. People can be good at anything thank yes even taxes you can do it and to help people feel more comfortable at the tax process. Turbo tax gives you personal access to experience. 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OC Kevin Stefanski appears to be all in on Baker Mayfield. Stephen should he be hell. No that's number one number two. Let me say this. And it's very very important. I say this Kevin's too fancy. had a pretty good reputation. I've never seen a person person on verge of ruining it so easily within the span of a few days because the last time we saw him on the field his offense was as predictable as it came against against San Francisco. They had no answer the Minnesota Vikings they had no answer for the San Francisco. Forty nine is it was. It was predictable. It was very transparent. There was no surprises. Arises and Kirk cousins was left out there to hang out and dry. That's this past Saturday by the way but that's just one game and certainly should not be You know I it should should be tarnished too much because of how they look but you come. And you get the Cleveland Browns job. And you're talking about Baker Mayfield and the word you use. It's accurate Baker Baker Mayfield. I have the numbers right in front of me. Fifty nine point four percent. Completion percentage twenty two touchdowns. Twenty one interceptions exceptions okay and accused of forty nine would Odell Beckham Julia. Joey and Jarvis Landry as as your primary targets and the words you use with. Nick Chop a hundred bacteria and the word you used accuracy. I'm looking at Kevin before looking at this because I don't really know the God but at least he was coordinator pro to glad he got the job. Nobody Black got a head coaching job. Your even even a coordinator's job for that position of the hires that are taking place. But that's neither here nor there. I'm looking at this guy then. I'm like really accuracy. Is the word you use. I've lost faith the ready ready words because I I've seen Baker Mayfield accurate. I've seen them at first of all Eksi said he's accurate as they cannot say that after the season Stevens right right exposing come. I didn't see it wasn't accurate. He's acting accurate is a cop. You're you're both wrong first of all the most accurate quarterback so the quarterbacks throwing to the widest open receivers right so what offensive scheme schemes. The Lincoln Riley there are lots. It's of open receivers. He was super accurate in college. Receivers Holly I swear to you. I you can debate me if you like your put me on. Put Molly the only good either to throw to. But let's talk about that. You want to talk about the receivers. I I tend to lean your direction on Max is he was. He has been inaccurate. This season for parts of the season. But if you go back to completion. Completion percentage is that we use to speak to accuracy. But I don't think it necessarily Brings it into the full picture but to be fair. I think they're right. It's hard to say that he's been accurate after this this season but his his his season before that he was very accurate towards the end of season in the big the the big kind of credit coming out of college is his accuracy in his ball. Placements so I think you can't just write him off his accuracy for what he's had this season I think a lot of other issues took place in Cleveland other than that. I will be all in on them because you don't have a choice. That's your choice not let let me just get back to what I was saying that. I'm sorry Max go ahead go ahead. No no go ahead Steve Good. I would just say the Dominique Nick come on man. Listen you know damn well we talk about the season we just had. We want to go. Listen do you know. Do you know Oh that went. Baker Mayfield was at Oklahoma. My hair law was about to vote. You can't do that. Aaron Rodgers. This season has not had a great season. No one would argue with that. But we're not going to say back right so you can't take one to defined insane addresses this. I'm not saying Baker Mayfield is a bad quarterback. I'm just saying fresh offer. Fifty nine percent completion. You sit up the estate accurate back L. for me for a while I would love put molly and me the other two screen. I'm begging three volley about that. Molly I put you on. The screen is first of all Baker. Mayfield was super super accurate in college. Because Lincoln Riley got an open receivers then the next then. When you get to the pros what happened? Hugh Jackson's the head coach. He had to thread thread the needle which he frequently did but the numbers reflected a guy who wasn't thrown to open receivers. Then Hugh Jackson was gone. Greg Williams was there but kitchens was as offensive offensive coordinator once again he was throwing to open receivers and he was very accurate again in the second half of that season the problem with elevating kitchens to the head coach is he couldn't function in the executive capacity. Greg Williams could function as an executive in that capacity as a head coach when he had that structure with an offensive offensive coordinator. Got Him open receivers. He was excellent. That's not what he was dealing with this year. If the BROWNS can put a guy with the executive capacity the to lead a team and Organiz team and then put an offensive coordinator. That gets guys like own del Beckham. Junior and Jarvis Landry Open. Baker Mayfield field should be very accurate. I think you're right about that. And most recently Kevin Stansky in Minnesota they run in that zone scheme. That's like descendant of Mike Shanahan and it works a lot because it takes a ton of pressure off the quarterback it takes the pressure off the offensive line to do kind of traditional. Drop back passing so I think that in a system it it does matter. You're right the WHO the coordinator matters if he keeps with this scheme in brings in someone similar Gary Kubiak which he's not gonNA still him as office coordinator but someone like that. I think Baker will we'll prevail in his system and you're right. Stephen Focusing on his accuracy is probably the wrong thing to do given last season but as the question is should S- defense key all in on Baker. If that's the question we're asking absolutely. He should because Baker has the athleticism and potentially the other skills needed to succeed in this system. That takes pressure off of them. The way they departed problem last year. They put a lot of pressure on Baker. And he wasn't ready for you but my direct response to what you just said. This defense key himself having accepted the job and having bosses to answer to I can understand him saying he would be all in all Baker. What I would tell you however about the browns is? That's not necessarily the case. Look Baker arrived. You gave him the keys to the franchise. Then you got rid of Greg. Williams and Todd Haley and Hugh Jackson right and then you bring in Freddie Kitchen. Who was his choice? Okay that didn't work out enough of the honeymoon now you in a big big boy territory. Now A man's game no more pacifying Ryan. We drafted you number one. We gave you your money. You been the starting quarterback for at least a season and a half and these results now you have have to go out there and earn it like everybody else. Maybe the fence is not the one who should be saying that but at least oh shoot. Well I'll tell you one of the reasons you take a head coaching job. Look if it's available a lot of times you just have to take it but another reason especially ward Nader. Who feels like he may get other offers? Is You have to identify which franchise has a quarterback that I believe in. I understand why someone would believing Baker Mayfield. I also understand why someone would have reservations. I'm not saying what you're saying. Things off the wall Stephen a but a football mind who has an eye for this. I get why he looks at Baker Mayfield goes nope he's way better than you think he is right now. Now I mean the the question is if you're going to be all in what's what's your alternative. Who are you going to be all in? You don't have anybody else on that roster so at least for this season you're all in if he's still terrible by the end of this season as in maybe you can make some decision to move on. You might be high enough in the draft to make a decision now or make a decision and my right. Now you're all in on Baker Mayfield because Baker Mayfield is your best hope. He's the best quarterback they have on that roster and had the potential. If you take the pressure off of them to be one of the more productive quarterbacks in the league I think if you drop them in San Francisco he could likely do similar things to Jimmy Garoppolo I. I don't see why he or kirk cousins. If you could do that comes had a great year in defense key system. But I'm asking the exercise. Different philosophy for the loss of fee is veering away from pacification pacified. To do I'm saying what you need to do. Now is reminder. We got the man's got more progressive commercials than wins. Then a stand stand that he's got more I didn't say commercial I didn't just say commercials. I progressive like literally one company has given a more commercials. Yup You gotTA show ever produced. If only he could get some talent around of now. Maybe you can make things happen. Hollywood you admit that my argument one. There's only one way to play this game. Since I was a little kid is play fast and play physical and play strong and at this point. I don't know if I'm able to do that anymore. And that's the part that is the most difficult is I still WANNA play. But I don't think it's the right decision. You just heard a very emotional keithly retiring at the age of twenty eight clearly before he wants to early retirements Bennett Tran. We saw Andrew Luck Stun. NFL fans walking walking away from the game. In his prime twenty nine years old for chronic pain and injury one of the greatest tight ends to ever play the Game Rob Gronkowski walking away from dynasty hanging up his cleats at twenty nine nearly in tears when explaining his decision. And now we lose another great in keithly Dominic Foxworth still here with us. Max How bad is this for the NFL. This is good for the NFL. It's not bad for the NFL. It's good it's very good for the NFL the NFL's never been about the individual stars that's the NBA The NBA took a beating. When Michael Jordan retired? Because that's that's the nature of the sport and choices choices were made based on the nature of sport no helmets fewer people on the court smaller arenas more intimate experience more control over the course of the game by a couple of guys so you know once upon a time David Stern looking said we're GONNA market the individuals the NFL the opposite choice for good reason more impersonal many more people on the field bigger arenas helmets on. It's really much more about the shield about the brand both of the League and of the team the players are largely largely interchangeable it survived Brett farve in Joe Montana leaving. It'll survives. Tom Brady and whoever else new guys will replace them. Even when there there was the strike and you had the scabs playing football the ratings only went down like fifteen or twenty percent. Something like that wasn't even that big hit because they're interchangeable changeable is like a huge hit them. Anyway it is but you would think but my point is we're not one real in the league is playing. It should go down to like twenty five percent. It went down on eighty percents. My point is this given those set of facts. What are we really looking at here? We're looking at a dangerous full contact sport. We're too many players play too long and therefore suffer physical consequences including a specially importantly cvt. There's an enormous backlash against that that I believe is the bigger threat to the game than anything in terms of marginalising. The game players making the choice because they're paying so well. They can retire with their money and their marbles bowls by the way. Some of the best ever Patrick Willis Gronk. You mentioned Andrew Lock Calvin Johnson walking away the other. They can't really walk anymore when they get older or think when they get older as rich famous healthy players that in the long run is going to be good for the league and in the short run and Calvin Johnson goes here comes Julio Jones. They'll be fine. I'll let you go first but I'll tell you why you're wrong. I let me you go first. Because you've got to play dominic so you should go last on this but I'm gonNa tell you Max Kellerman think you're wrong and I think he's being a bit short sided with all of this and I think you missed it because if you really really made the biggest point that I was trying to make it's about the shield and that's the problem because the shield is GonNa be fun. Shield going to get money to shield is going to get paid. No no question about it. The television contracts beyond and the players are going to get this ship but at the end of the day when you look at a Bevy of individuals that are retiring before the age age of thirty. CTE's one issue spinal issues at another lacerated kidneys bad knees etc etc.. Somehow some way the fact that the NFL continues to go on gives fodder to those critics and cynics out there that point to the NFL's history of being somewhat negligent when it came to address the concerns about these players and their lives beyond the game of football. So when you see this kind of stuff transpiring transpiring it does give you course to pause. It does make you say all right. Nfl What exactly are you doing for them. Roger Goodell once went out publicly EH EH projected there by the year twenty twenty five the NFL would be bringing in twenty five billion annually. Okay it's not just about the players share it's about L. former players. And how well they're being taken care of. It's about making sure that when you hear about lawsuits what level of credits and substance gets attached to it when you hear about these things. I don't think we think enough dominic for example about the actual field. Yeah you can get your chest caved in. Yeah a helmet to helmet it hit. It's not good and all this other stuff but most of the Times I see guys really really suffering is when they go to that turf because that turf is so hard that they're I heard that the head is ricocheting off the turf and you've got to wonder what level of damage that could potentially do couldn't the NFL do a better job in terms of their field and how they take care of it too. Could they do a better job with helmets. Even though they swear up and down that they tried to an all the research and fairness to them shows that they are really making strenuous. Join US effort to address. Those concerns my only point. And I'll close by saying this Max is when you talk about the shield the more you talk about the shield and how the shield benefits benefits the worst the. NFL looks. Because where's the motivation for real change. Not Lip Service but real change if we always showing showing how to leak benefits but not the place so max point about stars is a is a point that was well may but not completely true I think the league does marketed rocketed stars. It just happens to be the quarterback Andrew Luck if you're going to say that's just an anomaly and it won't happen with any other quarterbacks then I'll grant you that but if the quarterback start dropping out it matters as we tune in at higher numbers when we have star quarterbacks whose names that we know so him dropping out I think is a big deal because he was going to be one of these guys in line with Patrick Mahomes Lamar Jackson and Deck Deck Prescott. It'd be deleting four. I'm saying that Andrew Luck himself doesn't hurt the league but if it becomes a trend. That happens the quarterbacks it matters but I'll put that aside and say the Andrew Luck allom nominally but I will say that no matter who the players are it changes the perception of the game itself so football is a very complex. Game is hard to understand in part of the reason why our country loves it. So much is because it's something that's played everywhere and people watch it and understand it so I think that if you put out there the idea that guys are retiring because of head injuries or retired because of games too violent. That's something that per Maitha culture. It makes it less likely for young people in their parents aren't to play the game which then makes it less a part of their life so if you grew I grew up playing football I grew up with football being important to everyone in my community if we get to a point and it's not just. NFL Football we get to a point where it has has less of a hold on people at community. You don't come into football at twenty two when starting to figure it out and start to mental disagreement here. I have a fundamental disagreement. Both with you dominique. Let me start with you. I think that the role models the examples like when Muhammad Ali had health problems later in his career everyone was very aware of the dangers dangers of boxing. What you would like is Ali not to have had the last half dozen fights in his career and maybe the damage wouldn't have been as bad? I think is much less on the consciousness snus in terms of the dangers of football if players are playing too long and winding up with health issues if instead people recognize. Wait a minute. It's a full contact sport. The the length of the careers. Don't have to be that long Stephen. A you talk about it also I agree with you. That's a great point but it also means you don't have to play it like if I if I were coming got now. I'm not sure that my parents would let me play football so I would not like football lovable understand football because football's Senator Ron Soccer Basketball Hockey Lacrosse. They're all the same game complicated. So in order to understand football it has to be kind of a trade off. I WANNA get Stephen. I want to address what you said but let me quickly. We say you're going to have to make a trade off. Football is dangerous. If you want to avoid its marginalisation eventually you have to come to terms with that. And there's a trade off to be made the trade off I'm saying is you're right. Maybe understanding of the sport decreases a little video games and everything mad but but the long term threat to the sport is key and things like that. So Stephen Okay. You're thing about real change in baseball. Now there are pitch counts and all this stuff and it's kind of ruining the game in a way because it seems to be the attitude is these players should play as long as they possibly can. Who says who says you shouldn't two hundred fifty innings and maybe your career is half as long but you're a better player and it's better for the teams that signed you out obviously to tens of millions of dollars to give them everything you have so I think and this could affect the and all that stuff maybe rookie deals are unfair? Because in fact you're not gonNA sign much pasture rookie deal in the long run. Maybe those wave players are paid and how fast they're paid needs to change but the fact is instead of just assuming these guys should play for ten or fifteen eighteen years maybe even the stars Jolie played for six or eight one reason why they're walking away check it right but the reason is sleeping. I know you know what I was going to say to you. Is that the issue Max is. You're not giving them the choice. See in baseball. You have choice because from a health perspective. It's really not that big concern. Obviously it's a different. Sport was significantly less violence football being violent sport that it is if you are a league. You can't do it like like they're doing. We know what they're doing now to address the issues of and beyond they should have been doing years earlier. Everybody knows that Dominique knows that you across the negotiating table from from them. You know they're better than most of the point is that there are things that they could do max that they neglected to do. Knowing how violent this sport is knowing knowing what the consequences of it was they didn't do. They were negligent banned from hand. Look in ball is bad for your health. It's like smoking cigarettes sooner. You quit the better for your health. But what we love football we WANNA play whatever. The answer is play shorter career every every time that Luke keithly has to announce an emotional apology it reminds the people that football terrible for them and is dangerous and it makes it so you brought baseball. BASEBALL IS A. They're also making more money Trudeau. Not a factor understand Bait but you brought up baseball. Baseball is not nearly as possible as popular as it once was in part because no one's planning it it may not be for the same reasons as football but if you grow up playing baseball you grow up taking taking your kids to baseball practice. You grow up just being in a house where it sticks to the three same thing could happen and Dominic and let's be honest. The best thing you can do for. Health is play a shorter career. You're going to have to make a trade off. Do you have a better suggestion than playing a short career in terms of not marginalizing the sport in the long run. Because if things like no well then that's the trade off the reason. Why the Caribbean shorter? But it's not taking part but it's not a good thing if we have to watch leuke Luke Keith. Crying on the field sports when he was crying his retirement thing about the time got knocked out the said we're reminded of that look equally in which is different than the other guys. He didn't play seven games. We know because of concussions. Those were the seven that was reported. So we're talking head. TRAUMAS serious injury in Stephen brought up a really interesting point earlier. We were talking about baseball leading those harsh punishments. We haven't seen anything from the N._F._l.. Regarding the Patriots. It's been a minute. We're waiting on that with their reported scandal so also not a great look for the N._F._l.. There we will leave it on that note.

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 180: Week 4 start em or sit em (9-27-19)

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 180: Week 4 start em or sit em (9-27-19)

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I am your host taste. This episode is brought to you by SMC podcast network today. We're GONNA talk about that. Tanit vow fantasy football and who you should start a set but we're GONNA kick things off by talking in about the Thursday night game in which most times you lookin' at the Thursday night games I tend to say when it comes the fantasy football. I prefer to stay away from a lot of times playing a lot of players on a Thursday night game because of the fact that you have a short week less time to heal up less time to prepare but this game actually performed and just put out an amazing game Philadelphia Eagles beat Green Bay thirty four to twenty eighty seven eagles coming into lambeau field in going into Green Bay and actually pulling out the win and which Green Bay being a three zero team this looked like a much tougher situation for Philadelphia but in the end in Philadelphia turned out to be a much the stronger tougher tame as a whole when the great things about this game for someone who actually drafted Aaron Rodgers is that we actually had an Aaron Rodgers citing for the starter two year start right now against playing against Chicago and then go in and play in Minnesota play against the the number of tough defenses and Rogers had not looked very strong and you are starting to wonder is is Aaron Rodgers still a top ten play and fantasy football aw well Thursday night he proved that he's still is a top performer going thirty four for fifty three what four hundred twenty two yards passing two touchdowns one crucial interception at the end of the game Davante Adams really perform pudding and ten ten receptions for one hundred and eighty yards when you look at on the other side when you look at the Egos Carson went still had an amazing day. Lohan yard is a hundred sixty yards passing but three crucial touchdowns Jordan Howard an impressive oppressive day fifteen carries on eighty seven yards two touchdowns these got if you had Jordan Howard Carson Wentz or Aaron Rodgers. You had a good day we even had Jimmy Graham citing lean. Jimmy Graham was deathly has become a part of the offense and when you start looking at as an opportunity as of of a tight end pick up off of waivers or to make a move for Jimmy. Graham looks like he is going to become a part of the Green Bay. The packers offense Jordan Howard is just looking strong as possible and a great pickup. Carson Wentz of course is going to be a factor but Aaron Rodgers. The big thing is Aaron Rodgers prove that he is a top ten quarterback and I think you're going to see that that is that Aaron Rodgers is going to be a player as far as an every week starter going. Ford depending on who you've drafted on your team but Aaron Rodgers is someone that you definitely are going to no longer have to worry about. Are you going to stay away from from when you look at the schedule coming up. He has a lot of favourable matchups. This could be a situation where Aaron Rodgers finally starts to show that that the first three weeks of the season wasn't was not the norm but is definitely he is definitely player to play now when when we started to go rolled into who we should start who eats it set and going to take a look at the list here of who I have who she she started set would've stopped was research talked about Aaron Rodgers and we also talked about Carson Wentz. Both those guys if you had both of those guys right now. Those are all great starts the big games that I'm going to start looking at though and who you should start who she's he's not not start. The first person that comes to mind is should you start. Dan Daniel Jones for the giants watching the game with Daniel Jones for his first start. One of the things that we found doubt is the fact that not only is he a great passer but he is very viable because of the fact that he can do all the things that you lie man and can do but he's way more athletic version of ally so you have a a situation where it looks like you're going to get a lot of passing yards but you're also. GonNa get some rushing yards from him when you look at the giants and the fact that they do not have a very strong team as a whole as far as an offense goes a lot of players players aren't. He doesn't have all his weapons right. Now Dan you Jones is going to be passing a lot. He is someone that is if you haven't pick them up. He is deathly worth picking up this week redskins. The redskins are not a tough Defense Daniel. Daniel Jones of the of the of the New York giants is deathly one of my stardom another guy that I think his stardom also is Kayla Murray. The cardinals are going to be playing the Seattle seahawks. This is a situation where Seattle has been prone to quarterbacks who have the ability to run. I think there's is GonNa be a lot of room for him for Keller Murray to be able to move the ball by running and passing. He is a definite pickup for week four a guy that I do not like whatsoever to start. This week is Baker Baker Mayfield Baker Mayfield first off with all the weapons that the browns sounds have one of the things they the play calling Freddie Kitchens has not shown to be very effective. The penalties is for the browns have not been great. The fact that Baker Mayfield has not had the protection and then you rolled into a situation relation where you have the Baltimore Ravens top-flight defense an a situation where you have you have an offense which is the Baltimore Ravens which is a definite ball control. Tama obssession type offense is gonNA keep Baker Mayfield net offense off the floor off the court or the field and and so with that Baker Mayfield is definitely someone that I am going to avoid another. Another player that I'm going to avoid is Josh Allen with Buffalo. This is a big game buffalo verses New England. I am actually taking buffalo to win. This game. New England's going into buffalo but one of the things is the reason why I don't like Josh Allen is the fact that is there any team that scheme and prepare better for quarterback the New England and the fact that New England is not giving up touchdowns whatsoever. This is a game which I think is going to be a very close close but very low scoring game. I do not like Josh Allen Whatsoever and so I am definitely staying away from him. I do like Matt Ryan Against Tennessee an interesting game and one of the marquee matchups is definitely start. Dak Prescott versus New Orleans Saints The saints one of the the toughest defenses in the NFL but Dallas with their weapons the fact that you're going to get a lot of action with Ezekiel Oh Elliott which is going to open up a lot of the play action pass if Dallas gets out to a fast start and running game it was it's working debt. Prescott could have a very big day because if the cowboys are get to lead and they can use the run play play action pass is going to be there. It's GonNa make it very tough for New Orleans Saints One team. I'M GONNA. Let's say this every week. Anyone who was playing the Miami Dolphins that starting quarterback I am starting pardon and Philip rivers is no difference. The Los Angeles chargers are going in and plan Miami at I am deathly starting anyone that is playing against the Miami Dolphins. The defense is just to I mean it's they're. They're taking this year just flat out. They're not looking to win and I say if you got a quarterback back matter of fact if I could I would go through each week and play whoever is playing against the dolphins. That's who I'm starting a couple of other players that I am not liking. I do not like Kurt cousins this week and I do not like Jameis Winston this week. Kirk cousins the Defense of the bears is just GonNa be too much. I just there's too much the pressure that's going to be applied to kirk cousins. I do not like him and the same goes with Jameis Winston against the rams. I am not not going for those two now. We're GONNA take a quick break when we come back. We're GONNA talk about starting to set him. As far as with someone running backs stay tune and we'll be right back. It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing when you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind it's pain and it's getting in between you and a life you want to live. CD medic targets your pain at its source. 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NFL and college football podcast then check out the GMC football podcast get the latest football moves both on and off the field from the NFL draft treats to the rumor mill to the NFL combines. They got you covered that's GMC PODCAST DOT COM backslash footfall. Dash podcasts get updates on college rivalries key insights and much much more. It's football talk the way you want it. This show it sleeps and breathes football don't for till like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Yes MC PODCAST DOT COM for more info all right we are back and we're this about starter set him as far as quarterbacks and I talked about a couple of guys. I did not like Baker Mayfield mm-hmm. Dot Allen her cousin James Winston quarterbacks. I thought you should start Daniel Jones Kyle Murray Matt Ryan Dak Prescott and anyone plan the Miami Dolphins this luck this this person this Lucky Week Goes Philip rivers and now we're gonNA touch on the starmer set him for running backs this week now one running back the ominous. Tardelli were right out the gate that I do not like this week and that is Sony Michelle of New England New England is going to play against the Buffalo Bills Buffalo as has a very tough run. Defense Buffalo is very tough tough. I like Jones white better than Sony Michelle this week when you look at the when you look at this game I think is going to be a very tough game. I got buffalo win in it. I still got New England winning division. Don't I think I'm going crazy or anything but I got buffalo winning this game and so I have I'm saying avoid Sony Michelle devante Freeman. I'm skipping him against the Tennessee Titans Duke Johnson against the Carolina Panthers. I'm avoiding him and I am deathly avoiding Frank Gore with book. He's you know playing against New England. New England is going to have its. I think that New England game is going to be very close very low scoring affair and that does not Rupe way well for Frank Gore couple running backs that is is running backs that I do like though when you look at James Connor with the Pittsburgh steelers has not started started out well. I could see him getting very healthy against the Cincinnati bengals. This is one of those situations where Cincinnati's defense has been allowing the most fantasy points when it comes to running backs. This is a great opportunity for James Connor to get better letter to to get back on and his winning ways. I like Pittsburgh to win this game and I like connor to have a very the big day. I like Josh Jacobs for the raiders against the colts. The coats are giving up like five and a half yards per game. per per rush twenty six points a game against two running backs. This is the perfect game game for just Jacobs. I have a big game. I am definitely start and Ham. Let's see who else am. I carry on Johnson of Detroit Detroit Lions. I am starting him against Kansas City. Kansas City's offense is is just amazing they're doing. It's they're doing things I've never seen as the most it's the most high powered offense. I ever seen but I really like Detroit in this game as far as keeping it close and I do expect Becht Kerryon Johnson to have a big game against the week Kansas City defense. I Have Chris Carson having a big game as well so those are my running backs that I say are going to have a game that goes with James Connor Josh Jacobs Marlin Mac Kerryon Johnson at I really don't like Sony Michelle. I don't like Frank Gore Duke Johnson Johnson Devante Freeman those guys avoid we're gonNA move on over wide receivers and some of the wide receivers is that I like and don't like here. I don't like Emmanuel Sanders this week but it all comes down to is Jalen Ramsey going to be playing if he's playing this is a bad match up and I wanna stay away from it. Jalen is a motivated. He's very motivated right now. He's been in the and the press a lot. What and he wants to show that he is still shut that he's he's the top corner. NFL and it makes bad bad matchup for were Jalen Ramsey me for Emmanuel Sanders. Give me their Jarvis Landry Against Baltimore. Baltimore is a TAM physician type offense. That's going to eat up a lot of time plus with the defense the fact that the browns have too many penalties. Baker Mayfield does not get enough time the plays that the Ford that the browns are shown our plan. There's they're they're going to many deep routes which Jarvis Landry they need to be doing one more slide rows right run with him. It is not working out right now. I am staying away from Jarvis Landry until further notice. I'm not saying a cut Jarvis Landry but it is definitely a situation where until further notice. I am not starting Jarvis Landry at all John Brown. I'm I'm starting him against New England because I do think Buffalo's GonNa win this game and he could have a decent you know a decent game but New England does not. She's allow a lot of points. I it's a tough one where you think about John Brown this. This one's tough one one thinking about it. I'M GONNA go back on that. I'm GONNA stay actually. Stay away from the receivers on Buffalo so I'm GonNa stay set John Brown. Originally I was thinking about him have because of the fact that I do think Buffalo's GonNa win this. Those points have to go somewhere is just hard especially with the defensive backs that that New England has. I'm GonNa stay away right now. So that means who am I gonNA. Who am I going going to start this week. Tighter locking your plan Arizona a very soft defense offense. I like his chances. SEATTLE IS GONNA win this game and I expect a big game from him. Pittsburgh's defense has also been very weak tyler boyd going to have a big game Larry Larry Fitzgerald the as this wonder. I'm expected him to have a big game would. Dj More Four. I got him having a decent game and Sterling Shepherd with Daniel Jones there the fact that he can move the ball sterling shepherd now has life. He's someone that you can deathly move in to that third receiver position in your lineup. I'm definitely we started Daniel Daniel Jones and sterling shepherd so the guys that I am starting that I say they start Tyler Lockett Tyler boy Larry Fitzgerald Sterling Shepard. Those are my guys. I'm starting and then I look around at some tight end Jimmy Graham who had a great game going forward Jimmy. Jimmy Graham is now someone that I am definitely considering starting going forward. tight ends that. I'm looking at This is a tough one Mark Andrews for the Cleveland Browns Ming. I now against the Cleveland Browns. Cleveland's defense is just too weak. They've made a Lotta mistakes. There's a lot there's been there's been too many penalties. I expect the Ravens have a big game against Cleveland and I am starting Mark Andrews Delaney Walker. I'm starting him against the against the Atlanta Falcons. Let's see who else I am. Not Starting Jerry Cook this week. I'm not starting. Oj Howard either both of those guys are having a tough situation also cow Rudolph. I'm staying away from him as well. as far as tight ends go and then as far as defenses go as far as starters percents. I'm I'm starting the. There's the three teams. I'm looking at that you. You should always there. I'm like I'm starting. I'm starting the chargers against the dolphins wins. I'm starting any defense that is playing the dolphins. I'm starting them and until further notice the way the browns plan plan. I'm starting most defenses against the browns right now so I'm taking the Ravens. I'm also taken Raven's to win. The rams defense against Tampa Bay Tampa Bay has not shown me that they cannot turn the ball over. Jameis Winston is vulnerable for saks defense. The defense main office line line does not protect him. I could see a number of sex coming in for the rams. I'm starting. I'm starting the rams defense. I'm starting Jacksonville's defense as well. I am staying absolutely away from Dallas and New Orleans Saints Defense. I'm staying away from the browns defense of course Kansas the city. I'm still pretty much unless they get Jalen Ramsey. I'm staying away from Kansas City's defense. They're going to win a lot of Shah the shootouts this year so I'm staying away from them as well with that that gives us Canada overview of teams and who were trying list who were starting or setting. 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Full Show (Baker Mayfield/Richard Sherman incident, Week 6 Power Rankings, Oklahoma vs. Texas preview, Rich Paul  + AD)

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Full Show (Baker Mayfield/Richard Sherman incident, Week 6 Power Rankings, Oklahoma vs. Texas preview, Rich Paul + AD)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host Jerry Taft this podcast is the full show from today's soda undisputed from start to finish they've got a busy slate so skip Shannon let's get to it just muted we are live from Los Angeles. I'm Jenny tapped thirty one to three win on Sunday Sherman claim that Baker refused to shake hands pre-game and called it Bush League yesterday video was released that shows that Baker did shake hands with Sherman before the coin toss but did run away following the toss avoiding a second handshake okay we got the video shannon do you feel l. differently after seeing this do skip out Baker and apology because based on the information that I had yesterday and some of the folks and then the it's out of the way we have to get to this morning is a huge contract actually a bad thing for Dak Prescott which QB would you take if you had one game when we're GONNA get there we go important but we have some developments guys with Richard Sherman and Baker Mayfield after the forty nine Monday maybe a little busy so this is the moment okay we did I call heads here's deals we want the ball you want to defer I'll defer which do you want to defend okay Abra I get the you put your back to an end zone I'll put my back to the end zone since I'm the visitor there officials say okay this is had this tale you will call it call it in the air a Shurmur had had Sharma's also right also but our when apology because I thought that he refused even at the beginning I feel has been disrespectful not only to the League which some of the players in the League and you can see by the handshake he really doesn't care for a Baker Baker can says skip you're the home team on the business we walked to the center of the field we shake hands hey how you doing how you doing the referee will say okay guys turn around everybody else shake hands tap each the bang Richard Sherman shakes his hand Baker sticks his hand up okay Sherman there's no lopes firm doesn't like him for some of his behavior to shake Tau came across I came across squash shake his hand and it didn't happen that way skill allow me to take the people inside the how the coin toss a coin toss and they said well they want they're kicking the ball up that means I'm going to get the ball now a Lotta Times I didn't bring my helmet out there I got I got to go find my hill the fire on that situation yeah once he did it the first time I'm cool with it but let me tell you what happened was it a crooked this Richard Sherman believed that Baker Ah I gotta go get ready to no eight bragging I'm going got that's how I would have done so I'm not holding Baker a coin toss the browns he's a baker was about to be on offense Baker did not have his helmet so he had to Bolt and plus you gotta get Baker Census do don't like me well okay no sense to me being fake okay we try to show low back I'll say but I am going to do what sure does not like him so baker makes no effort to like because everybody else doubt they hold a broad topic on the back he hugged killed I do I hear protocol shake hands we're gonNA keep it moving I think that's the gist of it right there in Sharm Dan lobb because at the end the second time around we'll booboo we go okay let's give what would you do boom boom boom boom a second time it depends now if I'm not if I had for the show I always do it as I observed very grudgingly especially Monday when you have you know last you want me to tell them you want to the middle of the field at the beginning and you don't shake a guy that's bs there but that's not how it happened what I believe this is the way it played church showed after the game in my estimation because the the only quote we had to go off yesterday we sort of a prisoner of this quote of the moment apology but this comes down simply skill sherm Bill Baker Mayfield has been very disrespectful to some of the procedures of how the NFL operate he has not so I believe that is what took place okay so it is big of you to apologize you were showing a lot more class than I was Richard's quote to Michael Silver thing what's amazing and annoying was him not shaking hands at the beginning or did peeled in Roy but I'm not gonNA hold that against him skip sometimes guys do that especially if you're going to receive the ball 'cause my helmet was back at it so now I got one because what set Baker off at Kansas two years ago was that the Jayhawks captains refused to shake his extended Hamrick and then he went off so then wait a second we'd have role reversal to the point that Baker would would refuse shaking extended hand from Richard Sherman too I just found that impossible to that's what we knew yesterday it was just that quote right and I immediately told you pan is just hard for me to believe that Baker wouldn't even shake his hand right or motion than others but for me Richard Sherman accused Baker Mayfield a Bush league flat out lied about Baker not shaking hands because he did shake his hand and he shook everybody's hands some more a little more than ooh yeah but in this case at at the very best case in the best case Richard was exaggerated conventionally grabbed his crotch on the other side line to signal them that's what I think a you guy right correct and it was all about not shaking his hand bricks doc skip because after we see the video we see that he did shake him saying at the beginning he didn't do it at the Tail Lynn but there's Times you normally at the beginning in one in what happened because yes baker did bolt and I don't know maybe you could and by the way as he bolted Richard Wave by June right so so Richard taking it personally but I think Richard wanted he wanted to latch onto something to condemn Baker before the game to motivate himself right in right away org over Baker Mayfield considering how he's conducted himself through some of these occasions but luckily we were able to find the video and see not sure the benefit of the doubt and had we not been able to find and locate this video we're going to have to take probably more times than not eighty five ninety percent of the people are GonNa Take Sherman League wide reputation by saying he refused to shake my hand especially skip given some of the things that Baker has done a lot of times people are not going to be willing to give Baker distance was going on psychologically with Richard Sherman on Monday night remember since two thousand sixteen he is slowly fallen out of the spotlight and out millfield because I had to go through my routine so I got a routine I gotta go through so I would think quarterback would have at least as big routine as yet days and his grave is a cornerback on pro football focus has dropped each of his last five full season this year he has moved back up to seventeenth ranked cornerback through five Games last year he finished fiftieth but the point was Monday night as he is faced his so to speak football all of a sudden on Monday night football right out of the box he picks off Baker Mayfield and they had a resounding win and I think they open some eyes bure in me but what Richard did after the game was Bush League because that's just that's low to try to impugn this man's art loudmouthed quarterback a lesson and to exaggerate the lesson he needed to go to he wouldn't shake my hand right and again that's a low blow to me in the first series it's a pig and then he's off to the races that night and it continued into the pre-game but very worst he but then he was so full of himself he got up before the assembled media and he lectured the media and taunted the me if we could hear him go off he was really feeling himself game so he wanted the narrative to be through Mike Silver of NFL DOT com. I taught this up star that's what but I remember the politics get the way it came cross yesterday that's what he flat out said he didn't share I thought at the beginning of it because I'm like hold on wait a minute of relevant two thousand sixteen was the last year Richard Sherman made a pro bowl and that was his fourth pro bowl through his big Seattle Legion boom run and then he tore his Achilles nationally and he knew it and then he was talking to Lisa saulters on the sideline at the end of the game and ESPN went to them because it was such a blow out and he's going back and forth Lisa winded whoever wins the coin toss especially if you know somebody if you got a holiday at the end of the game good luck stay healthy boom going to do it like that so I owe Baker ready to what the play call what are we gonNa do baby nothing he might want to get two or three last minute throwing eighty to get his arms so therefore stay healthy you know hey good luck but if I gotta run back skip I gotta get my Helmet Yup a lot of times I was even late getting to the and she was making the point they laughed between each other about well I covered you all these Games you've never had an interception he finally had an interception with Lisa drayer so I mean there's there's no harm in that Richard the Narratives Neil could have been skip Richard like you know what we played have you know a lot of times John was throwing cabinet officials to call them captive cabinet and then Giancarlo okay he go he's go he's running onto the field and a lot of quarter Taliban I'm sure in the back of his mind at age thirty one he's thought occasionally man is this it for me will ever be a star cornerback again we'll ever be that guy run Seattle and accomplished nothing and let that be a lesson to that young man doesn't even have to call his name everybody knows it's GonNa be talking about getting let that be cautionary tale this game will humble you take this game into those that play this game that came before him that will come after him he thinks he's bigger than the game he thinks he's a superstar although he stick with that position hold it don't don't try to give credit now don't try to give credit now just stick if you had US ranked twenty five kilos ranked twenty five if you had us going home early if you had us go on three harding who is superior to you so when did we first hear of Richard Sherman we have to go back to twenty twelve Seattle at Seattle upset the Patriots Tom Brady did eight. It's proper respect Baker's cyst that sherm did not like him his body language give him you'll see Baker Bacon and move it wasn't so here's the greatest irony to Monday night to me how did Richard Sherman put himself on the map initially in the National Football League bill because we felt we need to teach a certain gentlemen on the other side a lesson because we don't feel that he's paid the proper respect me good naturedly about no I'm better than I don't think I'd go that far but but still one of the tweets found this morning was back from drill before he even really knew Asian the situation should change well we think this team is not going to be very good but all of a sudden he start playing like okay this team was better than I thought maybe I need to reevaluate in three whatever whatever you know what I mean and they stick by you work because I want you to sound like an idiot up in okay maybe they all will sound like idiots but let's Ah insurance been at this a long time skill sometimes guys do you know like I said if I know if I'm if I'm not getting the ball see what happens they gotta play the Rams a couple times I got played the Seahawks a couple of times I don't know they gotta play Keiler let's just see how it plays out where we'll be right you refuse to humble yourself he didn't need to say the guy didn't shake his hand now you kill the guy didn't shake his hand the second time but by doing a lot of the same things Baker Mayfield has which is be outrageously outspoken to the point of irreverent having little respect for no versus just wants to talk football so I was completely blindsided because right out of the box he's attacking me personally and to this day I have no idea what's back on and and do it on I take in the to our show and we couldn't get him come back on and then we've asked him to be on his show multiple times and he has not come on you know him I'm a patio shake your hand and petro the back 'cause a lot of time w shake Abrar what's up you more you you saw his game too low you guys are out there Arctic exempt once again I felt like well at least I'm in good company because he's attacking all these stars put himself on the map and we ask them to anybody heard that would've assumed he meant the first time racked because a lot of people don't know that there is a second handshake after the coin tomes exactly and have a great game that day and what Richard after the game he taunted Tom Brady on the field do you remember this as mad bro who and that was don't come in my face would that foolishness and then he started to go after drill Rivas via twitter at that Point Rivas Twenty twelve was the preeminent Richard was and he said this dude steady putting my name in his mouth to get notoriety yup that's exactly what's happening then he started going after Roddy wide who would for in him early right but they're not exactly the same guy but the baker's not trying to talk his way into notoriety I think just the let's do this they'll throw into the last minute until the officials said captain I need to captain then we got it out so what do I believe my two cents now. Tom Doesn't have the greatest infatuation or love for coach Bela Chick yes but publicly he's there's all these glowing things with Richard in which is people want him to come on our show on ESPN it was actually at that point in the afternoon thirty minute show just to talk off season Football Bloomberg yes so maybe at some point he will come and we can have discussions y'all this because I would love to talk about all of the above with him but the point was that he had a lot of bacon talking you'd think the wide receivers adidas we think corn of trash talk there are certain positions that you like okay except that but when you see a quarterback to the game you won't be cell but when you want them to hold their position a whole year like don't don't flip flip flop with us like you said we weren't GonNa make it you said we were some way early on we're back with him and the more roddy white fired back the more put Richard on the map then I told you yesterday about the incident I had in two thousand thirteen in March his people made it clear he's been some controversies with Brady and rebus and a routing white and he no he does yeah I'm in no rush to get back to the sidelines because the defense is going to be up there so I can say you know a deputy guys up again April I'm GonNa get at your game. Ab that was his coming out party as the I I really knew of German thing for me skip I never liked that look you can have your pizza from but don't get in someone's fe because the it doesn't really understand the rules of the game he's just wants to play on his terms there's certain skip Tom Brady look big about it he i Think d yup no matter what's been said about Tom Brady Tom Always says oh that's a great team they play hard the coach he's always going to be pc he's always going to be politically correct really good what are they gonNA thing is with athletes and a lot of athletes have been filled like Richard feel like if they don't get the credit they deserve at the beginning Yep skip as you get new reiner and most people that he but but again I thought rebus was at least the second greatest corner ever beyond right right Durrell used to go out with I love Baker Ginny Loves Baker neither of US liked the shot he took it Daniel Jones gratuitous it was just off the necessary I think he thought it was okay bad look bad idea in the shots he continues to take it Sam Etlinger now has to play history though he's built right he just goes after any everybody a lot of it has to do skip you know there are certain positions that we think comes along with trashed even though he's seething inside he understands you can be good at any game if you understand how to play the game understand the rules of the game right now off the record conversation across the dinner table right boom he looks up at the monitor and sees on ESPN giants took Daniel right what are they thinking right the back bay no matter what happens outside the guide is going to be calm everything's okay how you doing no matter what say Xanten he's built up toward Baker on Saturday and you will be there to see you remember the NFC Championship Game Michael Crabtree and he showed his mouth and I'm sure he'll speak today I assume after practice but also knowing that he did shake his hand didn't really have a lot to offend and I'm sure he school football in Texas Shannon it's everything now Baker obviously no longer plays for the University of Oklahoma and they have to deal with Sam L. Anger and all of of all the not a good look for him I if you the quarterback right that we expect a wide receiver DB to do crazy outlandish things like that but not the quarterback obviously in assume that video would surface this Baker's up against this what and this should give him say you know what I might need to change the way I say things and how things you got a guy like Nick Bosa this I don't talk he's got guys going out of their character going out of their way to get at him he does you know that you have Thursday night football yeah that's right Thursday night football has returned to prime video for a third season the cool thing is you can catch all he did not move back step forward he stuck his hand out and I was a little surprised we didn't hear a peep out of Baker yesterday via social going out of their way to try and get you because they don't feel years playing the proper respect right what's the answer this you just got back it up I've never been the quarterback I would never been the player yeah that I have become had it not been for him she became because ince become I'll be defame to himself but he's always say the right thing publicly I don't believe any of a quarterback would have handled the situation Hugh Jackson the way Baker handled it is just feature you can access next Gen stats play history and team information and now it's available on Ios android fire tablets and fire TV oh Baker Mayfield as I don't believe Baker Mayfield and Richard Sherman has never had any interaction I just think the way Richard Sherman believed that is already upset now guy swing on you now you're going to be married to my what what what come on number one the game you WanNa get your locker room you can say all you want to say that all the action on your TV on the web or on your mobile device anywhere in the world and the experience is next level with prime videos extra so that's what you're up again that's what you create it you know that's a good point nick boasted never acted like that you know said he'd been waiting for two years also available on Fox and NFL network NFL network simulcasts subject to change Thursday night football is presented by Bud Light Platinum Prescott and the cowboys continue to negotiate an extension and according to one anonymous NFL executive when DOC does sign way bakers conducted Adrift Anybody's young man this place yeah and sold that's how that started is you know you got okay bakers been in the second year in the League play the rival high schools there's Austin stuff you deal it will come with extra scrutiny the executives kirk cousins as an example how new deal can bring added expectations and he continued with how much they make are the guys that won the Super Bowl allied notwithstanding is debris is debris even though Brady doesn't make a ton of money yeah Russell Wilson's cle- want to experience the future football tune in this Thursday coverage begins at seven PM Eastern Kickoff is at eight twenty pm eastern media we didn't is because he got his butt kicked yes he threw for one hundred number case keenum with that Prescott unless he wins a super bowl people will think he's overpaid people automatically assume skill if you're ready to hear a new take on the game you can switch over to sport broadcast Legends Hannah Storm and Andrea Kremer for the play by play so if you don't have cable or or you overpaid people ask him Matt Ryan Making how much he went nothing matthews never make it how much hey winning anything I believe Sern shoreham knocks to pass away it gets intercepted Erin Andrews air a Fox gain abuse them after what happened where they tried me with a sorry receiver honey best one hundred thousand dollars for a car you better be calling notre obey to get a job first thing in the morning when you pay top dollar for a suit or luggage by saying that tax should take cousin situation as a quote warning Sir Shannon do you agree with that premise do I'll give them Minnesota Vikings went into this situation they knew kirk cousins was not a top five quarterback he might not even be top seven top eight maybe not even top ten but they believe given what they had defensively in the skill position that they had around him he was a better option and can take the father super bowl around that's how that works out I'm sorry there's no way around it okay that's just that's just the way that's just the way it is in the game of football the whole get my money skill bayless absolutely this is absolutely correct skipped really if you really think about it only the guys that don't get criticized the Ben Rothlisberger everybody else people think that what you paid him thirty million dollars for hearing one nothing so is he the Super Bowl you either win and you get paid and we'll get to the next question and just a couple of minutes here but this is another one when i read this concept last night that I l. o. l. I'd Dan for John he had a Qbr of one scale zero to one more than me so he took his lumps in you say you make me sick you know you could be right now and Baker Baker Baker eight Baker alcohol you want Shannon Shock Talk Jansher back up Mazzi fans are you an Amazon prime member did really laughed out loud because the premise is that when that gets his money look out he'll turn into kirk cousins the premise well that's that's what I'd Even in that first year and as soon as Minnesota gave him that money that day sitting right here I said this is the worst deal by far in the history of it will go to that if he's unable to win a super bowl absolutely this league and kirk cousins has just become the most over paid player by far in the history of this league eighty four million dollars I guaranteed go completely teed over three years the only silver lining to it it's only three years so you only have one that's all okay well that's how I am reading this so now it forces me to go back to what I started telling you from Literally Day One on undisputed back on September sixth of twenty sixteen kirk cousins is an undercover overachiever. How many times did I say that Rodman receivers that's the result you're GONNA get yeah okay so you know it's contentious meal to leave a Michael Crabtree you know is contentious even and he went one and six and I always looked forward to playing kirk cousins because I just knew that at some moment in one of his where you hope it don't care you know three years you hope he ruined the franchise young so this question is that how you read it yes that's that's because the pressure will crush him in he'll turn into the most overpaid quarterback in pro football aw I'm sorry but we're dealing with two questions in this block of our show that I'm having a hard time taking seriously I'm seeing it through the prism of being a Dallas Cowboy Fan and all I know is seven times kirk cousins faced my cowboys as a redskin one game Dak went four and oh against him in one of the great battles we've ever had on the show came the Friday I was after we'll guess what you need to pour in my head also he wasn't super bowl so absolutely that criticism is going to come with that the kirk cousins type criticism skip and one and a half more years to go jenny but thank you what they said well you know what you gotTa do you gotTa drink poison but you only get the drink it for three years eh your quarterback most importantly he's the most valuable player you can't do anything without a what he told me that you play that guy that kind of money skip bayless Shannon Sharpe Good Morning Good morning known I have never ever refused to this with you the biggest games of the year because his style Washington that he would throw us the football or do something stupid that would allow us to win the game and the one giving right because on Thanksgiving Dallas pulled off a thirty one to twenty six win and you loved a lot of what Kirk cousins did I certainly respect it because he for four forty nine that day he threw fifty three passes and completed forty one? That's that's pretty good yeah we're forty nine three touchdowns and no interceptions but in the contingent on a lot of things but when you pay a quarterback because get better a having it in my head as a matter of fact he drilled them jail the he one of these seven was against the current offensive coordinator the Dallas cowboys and more right so that's it took that took killing more for him to win especially for that position nobody's expecting to receive with ODA made his money nobody thought it was gonna be able to lead the giants to the Super Bowl Ah like make the you know say anything he's like Oh come on show me something we try hard to do so you're going to get guys that zone you heard two of five and back in the red zone where at four four four and made all the big throws even though DAX totals for the game whatever what have you pay thirty five million dollars for a quarterback you what the hell you expect you to deliver me a super bowl super bowl I like playing against Baker did he there's no you know it's Hobo Baker was a redshirt uh-huh well end up in Washington with a grand total record of twenty six thirty and one so he was four games under five hundred so Dak right now hundred ninety five yards passing one touchdown no interceptions but he made plays with his legs in the Red Zone and they won the game so he goes to four no and Kirk TV commercials just heat pressure on your shoulder pads you know your weight of carrying this franchise your America's team quarterback in Dallas Texas it's hard no point in time was Washington team player for play better than the cowboys never okay I'll buy that so now the cowboys were very young at that its own kirk cousins look if they have a choice do you actually that was the only choice they have they just knew case keenum wasn't the answer he was a free Oh over the last two football seasons he's had a dozen or so national TV commercial kirk cousins has had zero I don't know of any he might have some locals the whole idea of Dok will crumble under the pressure the weight of whatever he's GonNa make thirty million dollars but as we've talked about often on this show bet money and see the difference between debt in an cousins is that Dag has everything he has a top Che's of earliest yes but the redskins themselves could never commit the skill when Kirk cousins was in Washington is not have that offensively a lot of these guys you got to deliver so getting that kind of money you could see the the I took it as the pressure his losses which is pretty good okay it's GonNa Brady ask aging gable bobby all right that's that's pretty great so here's here's my other problem with the premise it's hot seat that you're sitting on skill for me I gathered is that what is going to feel is that once you get you get what so you see what comes along with that they say dad you making thirty five million you got all of that Russell Wilson does not have that Tom Brady bad for you he got an offensive line any Heaven Defense Minnesota's defense is better than Dallas okay just is so far I hope that changes but at this moment I gotta give it Washington on the same team and flip the situations do you believe that going forward in Washington against cousins in Dallas I do I do not running back has arguably one of the best offensive lines in football he cousins in Washington or even if you look at Washington Minnesota Minnesota's defense is yes yes and what Alvin Cook it'll legit yes dealing and digs are legit granted but when you look at that and and this is why the pressures don't cousins doc for four no with a pretty young football team but so the question is if I took cousins and put him on Dallas and took back and in comes with a free agent free agency is not about being good about being free we see every year skipped guys get overpaid I got it kirk cousins would give you flat the apple I don't know probably four I don't watch much TV IN MINNESOTA AL find out I've seen on social media right so all those take that today here have similar situation he got coop he got Gallup he got Jason he got a Maher Mar excuse me he got Vicky why he's getting killed because of what he has just mentioned feeling Digs Hulu position Dalvin Cook a defense now dollars that's a whole different tax bracket okay that's a whole different level of expectations that people that ownership places on you what comes along skip is a different ballgame making two billion dollars making eight hundred thousand dollars that's one thing you start making thirty million thirty five that could change the culture dax a leader in auto leader Mitch Daniels Not in Bruce Allin but not withstanding but that's the way I took it I'm not sure they'd be all that much higher than his on this kid and again this kid Dak Prescott is simply the most under appreciated over criticized quarterback hypothetic that's going to happen I've already gone on record plural I'm Laurel Super Bowl before uh-huh and you're making thirty five million and you lose after you've already beaten that team in their building they would have crushed that Eh twenty six years of age does but that's what I'm saying when you pay a guy that type of money the level of expectations that comes along with that super bowl ring I write my legs were hurt league he did change life changed life twenty five Adele Coaches execs and scouts were asked one simple question which quarterback do you want if you have one game it's up where you guys were shedding Kirk and Dak both endorse sleep number beds so he does have an endorsement and it is your Holmes was the runner up with seven votes one coach called Mahomes quoting the most talented guy in the league he'd been talking to that Guy Shannon Gen a witch all the time and without that super bowl I got not possible in Terrell Davis career was unfortunately not long enough but that's that burst in there you really skipped yeah they want a doctor with his rookie year let's give you four hundred thousand dollars but let's just say for the sake of argument you go thirteen and three you have home field throughout the player it to win fourteen of the twenty five voters picked Tom Brady citing that he is one of the best ever at mid game adjustments and can always find a way to win Patrick what did they put division this I'm trying to figure out because a little while on the show we're going to have a guest named Terrell Davis actually carried you your first mhm right now as we sit here no quarterback is playing currently better than Patrick Mahomes now Russell Wilson is close but he goes on to the trophy case he's won the division two of its for three years is that pretty good start I wanted to visit a couple of times and I've never seen division trophy playoff games that's not that's not what we're talking about today today is right now how they're playing right now in right now Patrick Mahomes is playing better in gotTa have you gotTa win a game right now that means today I'm taking Patrick Mahomes you look at Tom Brady. Tom Brady has not looked like the Tom Brady that we grilled teams but if you don't win titles you don't get bought of his being I think what I think I ninety eight team went down as being the fifteenth or the Twentieth Best Team but if I need someone to win me a game today I'm taking Patrick Mahomes what deeply troubles me about your answer is if in fact hypothetically you did quest Tom Brady and what he's a he's accomplished that he won those six super bowl he has all those game when he drives gives one twenty eight thirty ever talked about on your phone okay I'll tell these Roger Staubach well I mean but he keeps living up and on an NFL scouting director really is really give me the give me the goat and who is all time who don't believe never see that again we might not ever see that so sometimes that can add before we move on something kind of ironic I looked at I believe if I gotTa have gang and I got to win a mobile home because there's not throw he can make that throw the he threw four touchdown Tom Brady can never ever the Johann forgiven I gotta get my homeboy I gotta take them home with get I know most people are GonNa Take Tom Brady for what he's accomplished but they say right now if you Loyd Pudding Whoa to star Holo I thought you know for Lombardi's when what are you GonNa get them Lombardo Win I got it six Super Bowl rings with six game winning drives you can't question his all time clutch knows but even if we're doing it right here right now that was down it's too starting safeties and down various Leonard Who's one of the best linebackers if not the best linebacker in pro football those three could not play Britt what did I see just Sunday night I just saw Patrick Mahomes lose at home My homeboy at all to an Indianapolis team a few months back to that Same Stadium Arrowhead Stadium you had a few games there overtime. AFC Championship game what happened could we his best day at Twenty one twenty five at thirty one he could have never made that throat that's true I give you that role that he made on the sideline dropped it in the budget from about thirty five Tom Brady when love give us as he's twenty second completion percentage he's fourteenth and yard for a temp he's ninth and Qbr Mahomes is second in qbr second in yards per attempt in life quarterback remember I didn't use when you win the hand eye Lombardi's accord I've just trying to figure I'm going to have I'm going to have an all I'm GonNa have starting a pro bowl player all pro wide receiver and a very good widely Sammy Watkins skill I mean look and he lost at home one game for your life but no but I'm but I'm assuming that I'm GonNa Have Eric Fisher I'm GonNa have tyreek Hill Have Sammy Watkins go along with that so got to get rid of that bad yeah seriously what's wrong you have all those sleepless nights lost guests when he almost didn't know he did so my answer is exactly the answer that one of the anonymous quotes here says I'm not Tom Brady Tom Brady Tom Brady is great but Tom Brady. This you skip Tom Brady is not play like the first second third or fourth quarterback in the NFL so if we just go back Audrey Association with them be always stays Kirk Zoli local no I think it's National Ooh research guys paid attention mayor who remember that you've got to tell you think by Jack Abby hold that to me about halftime I'll be right here would you know that old Abyan halftime because he'd be like Roger Roger Head that thanks Game Not Brady he sees everything in the moment that's what separates him Patrick Mahomes is still a baby in NFL years for three fifteen one touchdown we saw Tom Brady go for fifty yep no touchdown intercession so we've seen Tom you're an opponent just know he's going to win they just do I want that guy one game for my life and then get a little more technical another I think this was did that and then we're going third and ten again to Gronk right to walk out white he converted three straight third and ten in the AFC championship game in the cold fire under pressure in the biggest game of the year they think Tom Brady is going to pull this off right there's there's nothing like having a guideline other AFC exact says smart swag you're right now wait a minute just two weeks ago pro football focus hey Tom Brady ranked number one in leagues through I three games see those plays just to refresh everybody's memory third and ten is the first one any throws it too element that was really good thrown well he doesn't look old to me there all non ass- obviously but one NFC scout said there's just a level of confidence he gives every round one around him in those moments he does every Patriot in that huddle under flatten against Miami we're gonNA find out right because they play Miami actually okay that's fine it won't change my opinion because I love these quotes in here used to do it I want the guy who just one last year super how the Patriots do a great do the best job that I've seen maybe ever at end game adjustments at his worse look horrible skip I mean you look at individuals who play he played Miami we we're going to see what Patrick mahomes numbers Eh general manager said his ability to process information during the game adjusting and applying it is like no other most players and coaches have to wait until they see the film after he can't see it feel it anticipate it the way Brady camp so if your life is on the line in one game I want the guy who's done it and done it and continue is both offense and defense they do a great job and that's normally true skip normally the best adjustments normally complaints take place after seeing the film Oh that's what they were doing that's to cover a one on the coin toss believe whom ever got the ball was going to win the game Tom Brady he no longer have any respect for bell checks defense you next one with a second third and ten it was forever ago that's Dataman Oh there's another one I arrowhead did redecorating suddenly Ralph today months although if you had to get a win the game right now which quarterback should and they raised down skip in when they get downstairs 'cause Mike was very good at that can we get downstairs we got into the locker room the Reynoso has just fallen off the proverbial cliff. I don't know okay somebody push them okay live I dunno Sunday with Patrick mahomes worst game he okay that's the defense they're running okay that's okay they will get into that was running a weak zone but that's not what they do they got great coaches upstairs they charge everything aim has he won so far helped me out what none I mean show me one signature game where you say he pulled that off now again it's hard to beat this guy do it all he can throw cannon shots from eighty yards on a on a rope gear you can't get all that but help me out what big don't make that throw in the throw it could never throw it out of the stadium if in fact he didn't he needed the one that he threw early in the Game Travis Kelsey where he gives you got to is something to be said but in that game that you're talking about homeboy had two hundred thirty yards in the second half and three touchdowns which game the AFC championship game I believe that Qb would you take come on be honest honestly Your Day God through Yeah God through the cuts edit that Patrick Mahomes is like a one man globetrotter show at quarterback I get it that he can throw it behind his back through his legs left handed underhanded he can that figure coach Belichick out at that time and there's no stopping him just like in the second half of the game in Foxboro he had figured it out and breaking out they I don't know who they have up there I guess code villagers they don't have analytics guy but they have gathered I guess they got some really really smart football guys and they chart that information what already have plays brought up on the board okay this is what they're doing to this this is going to be counter this is what they're doing to that this is going to be account so that raided this will happen to get the ball last gift Gostkowski and field goal range eighty four in the fourth quarter of the game at Foxboro against mahomes hundred eighty two yards twelve it's just hard to beat so he had two shots last year and he's still a baby but he didn't beat him twice is it all his fault didn't have the Defense Blah Blah Blah but when it was one game for your life and you took Patrick Mahomes I'd have to look for another partner don't sure NFL wins really Mahal on potential. I'll bet my life on what I think he could do no I know what I know what you would do you would another super bowl well what happened after the Mario to game he went on to win the super did yeah and he went on to convert three third and ten in overtime against now that guy is playing better than the guy that has six super bowl that's all right now one guy is undefeated and the guy lost at home to Indianapolis a fourth quarter that was just last year just last year and help me out homeboy down oh okay Mahal for like almost five hundred skill I right through me the right now are now and I throw it back at you that's all I know but days ago okay well Mahal boy the outcome different opping so I think so yeah you don't WanNa get that L. check defense last year it had some low moment no and it's still finish look scale that sometimes when a guy gets hot like that you know so we baseball player could be the best pitcher to leave but you get a guy swinging back and look you've natick Tom Brady would never even think about throwing it left me I'm not here to can't get him out and at that point in time as like Brady figures has figured so many people like defensive depends defensive coordinators out mahomes fell to ninth skip after loss to the packers not appearing in the top ten were the eagles who came in at number eleven following back to back wins the guy is mvp favorite where's your luster Jacoby perset at home really foles you'll Guy Lost Markus Marin Shannon what's your biggest problem with this list but I know my problem is too high don't yes you do the cowboys oh it is yes how the cowboys there behind the cowboys interesting in what universe what galaxy does that make sense We got the same record. ooh Your quarterback now here by quarterback don't turn the ball over my quarterback is so Kevin with the football your quarterback has nick picks he's throwing at least one and force Craig yes four but go ahead in a way no dad had six interceptions winter lambeau and beat the packers cowboys just lost to the packers and some how the exact same record the cowboys flickering will you've predicted this last year when it goes out it's done butte pro football talks we both three into the team just beat you on Sunday thirty four loan you we beat them in their building steelhead I'm confused okay you want me to clarify here would you please please I'm GonNa Bring you back my galaxy my universe because sometimes I Goethe Martinus last does another bill check disaster figure Marcus Mario in my guy just one the boys are nine and eagles are level with the exact same record and after the eagles on a short week six power rankings still have the patriots at the top the chiefs dropped from second to fifth though after their loss to the Colts Shannon the cowboys also around who lives they did he did he did he changed John Elway's look each way we abuse Lord we had some think I don't live in the same you don't universe you live in but here's my universe so this is actually pretty simple math to me so is in Ville CJ troy deal as Miami it still finished top five in points allowed remember points not yards that when you tired very game my Guy Walking tour have to skip his you know this is a travesty they ought to be ashamed at eleven they are and they lost at home to the team ranked twelfth yeah okay that's fine the lines are ranked twelfth there now to one in front of Eagles skip explained that if the eagles have played the cowboys schedule they'd be four one also so I just WanNa make sure I'm hearing things correctly the team that the Tom Skill Essay last you do see the AFC championship game did you know that the other guy was six this right now and right and one and they get a big shot Monday night lambofield we'll see how that plays out right see how good they are I don't know maybe they're really good and the Eagles lost to the twenty seventh rank the Atlanta Falcons now one in four with coach on hot seat yeah so so the eagles lost to the teams cowboys or ninth and they've lost two games to the team ranked second and the team ranked fourth okay got that got it two games shame and losing to two and right here right now nine lost a two and four lose I get that you shame loosened a to Luneau and it was at two it was oh boy lost two at home by giving a thirty four points the eagles went on the road on a short week and beat that team in their building does that's why Tom Brady's only have ample of that not not that Maine Hands Free Times he's finished outside the top teams you bet your life on a kid who has no signal dwarf your nine right yeah so we beat a team of rank four I'm out I'm talking okay my bad so the eagles are still wallowing down well I would have got it converted to fourteen but I ain't talking about here Hogan wisdom sue both now woody windows give me light nobody it's just a matter of time and below them at twelve and twenty seven the cowboys lost to the teams above them at two and I was pretty simple man hold on first of all WS L. Right yeah okay so they lost a twelve and twenty seven they deserve to be eleven noted Janka we beat you guys at their building what about Galore Yeah Walk Walker to hit him in the hands did he not what happens you restaurant that what happened time to have is an shine the brightest well shown the brightest prayer halls asking defenses and Tom Brady has bob sudden called the hip defenses he threw for three twenty nine in the second half I think I'd make an exception for him though he got to save private room bottle service kind of performance right football game they lost to the Atlanta Falcons moving one in four I'm just stating the facts that you always throw back at me it's a ballot eighty nine against the jets at home that good that's what you used to accuse dock of a game break two hundred right hello if you don't mind me asking it wasn't as see you to try to do Jimmy time at the time y'all played y'all were ranked above them you lost why you rate below bills get Betas and you know Sam Darnold Agata just just coming back out the having model for more tired you get from your exhaust shockingly Blah the last couple of games and again what did the Eagles get they got Luke Falk at home my team to go to New York to play the jets against you've had him as you're right you don't skip bayless I have not had him as my mvp this year although he IOS also lost to the team I gotta get prints out into a whole nother sheet oh I gotta go down down where are these oh here they are twenty seven yeah go yeah they tried they knocked on the door you're maitre d' said sorry use sharp says no you came in in the rankings ranked the head Adak in the MVP but Dak is number one in Qbr Carson winces pretty good he's fifth versus v The gas well they did win but again Joe guy must be about everybody around him his team is lifting your sixty three you'll guys who for okay what about my homeboy now you can yards passing per game is fourth in the League yes Carson Winston twenty-first so I don't know Carson Wentz has been ars by himself then the jets have every team let that sink in for just a second let Luke Falk sink in for just to say hello Sam Darnold d Olympic Carson Wentz so the last two games at Green Bay against the jets at home he threw for one sixty at Lambeau and one off mononucleosis would you say that with a straight face you already dope the Christian McCaffrey has more like it should be discounted to the point where you just don't get a win from it hold on hold on if you don't mind me asking when you guys Lake Washington who started start a few games my correct yeah okay so one got a million Christian McCaffrey runs. EMC has more yards going into the draft better than Baker Mayfield did okay let's get out I have to deal with what they have to do with anything back with this comeback performance of the year eggs day say hey I gotta give it up to you got limited to a good pair okay but he did and that's part of winning busies see you try to Orient for Dak Prescott Fiddle sessions he hasn't picking Arnold Sam Darnold cab would go run Russia they know down roughshod they're struggling right now they've lost their flow their confidence level I want to have the energy right there I listen with number twelve I have boundless energy does he go by the split when you guys you guys played Miami Yep who started this magic and then who is dangerous man he said some of the most who started yet case keenum right yeah okay and when you guys play keenum who pulled off the Minnesota miracle stay off win the Logie Minneapolis reckless runs last year first game of the year would it fits magic do at New Orleans against drew brees unbelievable it's dangerous they care but says I knew cowboy would become I stayed open late certain now do you want with that guy audio we're no cheese Luke Falk I think the scales go like this Luke Falk is not very good you Sam and what Sam Darnold Okay Okay you liked him pitcher your team walk into got Luke Falk my team data go on the Road Sam Darnold you'll see Sam I four sixty three now and call would he came to my restaurant and it just so happened on Sunday you know normally that's a worship day Janey normally open on Sundays Egging did oh I thought it was Monou like resting up thirty five and eighteen as a regular season starter I'd like to believe he's GonNa go win at the jets on Sunday so that would make him thirty six and eighteen so he would double the jets so you know what a Luke Falk Start Averick at the eagles the eagles shouldn't count in the standings talk to be a bad day it'll be it'll be bad yeah they should just shut down the cowboys then no no another game how over cow skills the cow he has moments he has moments but and it's Magic Josh Rosen which will win and when he played had another big had like two hundred yard to four hundred yards as back to back and then what happened the moment you had expectation coup now again you need to stop this trying to say look this this'll sound all you can eat so carson wentz guess what he's ranked twenty first in the national football league in yards passing per game that good twenty-first in this game and then we can have this conversation the follow walkers yeah but walk tombs got a walk to Minneapolis I eighteen okay I'll tell you what I'd you digest and fourteen I'm betting against my team sorry but you let you like Okay Shannon what does this tell you about Brady before I get into my my point you notice. Tom Says he's the quarterback the quarterback does not make personnel decisions Brady also reflected on how the decision impacted him personally take a listen pretty tough you know another offensive weapon and Tom Brady isn't too happy about it when veteran tight end Ben Watson was let go earlier this week Brady said that he is only Ryan and you know a missing right next to me and for his great is a player he was he was ten times better person what we took off last year the first time we've played the eagles and then the second time we played the eagles we just went into hyperspace so so you will take off again yeah one thing claim record as your quarterback who's putting up these godly numbers against you lost the Lions at home okay relevant let's just see what happens a week from plus the fact you lost two straight Okay okay we have one right back but I pretty tough it's tough for a lot of guys I played with a lot of guys over the years and you know Ben spent a great player just she's been a great player for this team just the highest integrity and You know I can't say enough good things about Ben what he's meant to mean my family our team so we're missile the teams Incredible career and you know hopefully he he can keep playing and I know he was looking forward to radio a hard time Carson Winston do at Buffalo Good Yeah right heel toe for like one thousand nine for more than fifty really gather Tampa no but Tammy's pretty good on defense would it Tampa what did they just done to the rams would j golf new to the rail okay well and went video honey that's what we're GONNA have to call him this honey as in that's what he does for a honey hunting he's a great guy and you know skip the difference between players in the locker room and coaches is that the players in the locker room police sheriff that's the downside of this business because you do build such great relationships and it affects you but you know the one person it's the gamblers are sort of citing a little bit with Philly Philly's Billy Billy Gilman starting to run okay 'cause I know Gary Kubiak I know I know all the offense code over by himself I'm okay with us the cowboys you're not in front of the Eagle I'm sorry hold on you know what they lose ascertained and then the eagles five and two here we go through barrhead patriots released if you bite think he likes you there will come a time no matter how great you are you'll get traded or you'll get released so he doesn't have that attachment skip I'll go somewhere else you say he's saying he stayed out of personnel so in other words like you said the beginning Richard Sherman lie in other words Tom Brady just on the lot so he if you do Rick Dennison dolphins coach Brad periodic tidy and cold yeah they're going to run the ball okay I three straight road games for the industry they got to go to buffalo no cake walk there ngop guys but you understand that there's a cruel part of this business it means that sometimes friends very close friends will get traded or coach Belichick understands it makes his decision tougher there's a reason why the military there's no Fratton is it how ups you general you'll colonel the kids going to replace it the coach is going to say I'm going with Jimmy do you stay out of personnel you stay out a person Oh so you say okay with these guys on a daily basis you become very close to a lot of these guys skill and a lot of times like in Games you know after game your family come in leaves is taking another not so subtle shot at him making his degree of difficulty higher and higher because you lost he stays out of personnel decisions when it comes to Jimmy G. and then he goes upstairs and talk to his day what do you say that a person you don't eventually outta personnel that players have with each other because we mingle day-to-day different we're in the locker room when meetings were laughing joking joking on the plane owned the bus stop the new home and I'm sure that will hurt Tom to some degree because I think he was holding out hope that maybe rob would rejoin him in November Komo by his stance you don't get that from no I think he was taking another subtle shot at his head coach whom he themselves in this position coach bill will never have that problem code will get rid of a guy you're early as opposed to a year late evil Tom Brady even mceal Harry got hurt in the preseason and he's gone for the first eight gain so all of a sudden you replaced Rob Gronkowski with right but the point is bell check did draft Nikiel hairy and that was the first wide receiver he's taken since he's been the new England comb and Tom Brady yeah so so I understand Tom Tom I believe Thomas sincerely genuinely hurt because of your round been Watson for more than a minute your understand yeah you lost to New Orleans owned row oh that's just shameful trade Tom Ridge water yeah what do you do Tampa last Tampa so tell you so matlock costs on his fifteen and Ryan Izzo a former seventh round draft choice Bella chat that's it that's all you got and at least been Watson would give you a viable trustable veteran receiver who knows you and that you have trust and rapport we and degree of difficulty so tom went from the greatest new toy. You could ever have Antonio Brown right to losing been Watson to wait a minute I got ABC Gronkowski congratulations to him. He's now working for Fox I don't know if he will go back to Tom Brady I thought he would but made now maybe he's what Tom Brady's talking about Yup so my interpretation of of all this outpouring from Tom Brady and that was rare for him on that got that this never affects there's coach Belichick because he never gets close coach Bela check understood for a very long time that no matter how great a player you are or no matter how reaching code doesn't get that he thought there when we're laughing and joking if you notice gift he's twirling whistle he's doing that will gather building relationship because down with Kim let me get a point why you keep interrupting me just to bring you track been Watson I know been Watson Person The dire circumstance that they're in even Philip Dorset pulled up lame the other day so now it's element and James White and that's about it right yeah that's hard when you were they've seen enough they're gonNA move on but they've these guys given him them no indication that moving forward they're going to be any tinted windows so bored because it makes the job tougher because they're the thing called you might have to go to war if you love like a subordinate or you got I had a relationship with ally managed it cloud his judgment it made a decision that should have been made years ago it made it tough on him now he there's a lot of guys they shot introduce you to my mom let me introduce you to my wife my fiance Hey Sean my little boy so you get close give you developed relate costume Brian Izzo knew something was up because the moment normally when guys come off a situation you're suspended for two games four games whatever it is teams we're deploying yes leave suspended for four games and you kept making the point a they do get been watson respect from what you could do to help right yes favor you might not wanna put him in harm's way yeah coach Bela check is look if I like this guy's GonNa make my decision cost the giants because John in Watson because usually it's next man up to move forward love been but but now we gotta work hard with Ryan Matt right you know he would be on being more than just serviceable right so I consider Tom Brady the greatest leader in sports today and Tom Brady I know would never have said what he said about come on those data personnel alleged personnel as you come to the point yes wait a second the next day we're on to Cincinnati right in that way he's a reflection of his head coach right well when you gush like this you're showing this this kid they really broke the game wide open this struggle in buffalo they gotta go in late in Washington Tom is like we need and the big one I'll carson's I don't know what the exact right in the heart Ryan is hitting you where you live because you're starting to fear you just don't have enough weapons get home and he says like so bottom line from Tom Brady he said I mean I'm the quarterback so I don't make those decisions and that hit me hard last night because I had just finished a Tom Brady said Oh those guys tried they they're really worried but he made a clear point I know been was looking for we need to show more consistency offender because they've struggled with except for the first game skill if you look at Miami it was those two pick sixes story on ESPN DOT COM about the Anthony Davis trade to the Laker okay and it pointed out through quotes from Anthony Davis that every move rob Pelinka together with with the scout with the development development squad everybody you're not quotes too but gathered to really close to skip that you really know you laugh you immediately activate that guy once he wouldn't immediately activated like the one on something something something not on the up and up and it's not like these guys they had twins maybe twenty he got seven kids now so he and Tom can talk about a lot of different things yup and like he called a d. and Lebron you good you you like this guy can you work with this guy can you get along with guy so they co-signed on every aide post-trade all the editions which I think are really good to the bottom of the roster as he scrambled to make up because they were waiting for number twos ready every move he originally drafted by the Patriots mid six years with the Patriots won a super bowl with the patriots so tom million with been watson right and in your face get superstars way differently in basketball they do football so I'm not surprised Tom Brady doesn't get a call because Tom Brady could be. Tom Unskilled a lot of times they don't gather blowing away this guy's going couple of three or four touchdowns in the first two or three games or have over one hundred yards and in the first two or three games like you talk about we need to get more consistent to do with what I mean they were down seven or nothing at Washington and it was still a game at half right then he wound up through them for three forty two and it sort of broke move rob Pelinka may well that's kind of the flip side of New England right because this guy you kill it is not like them maybe muddy go out much Lacoste is oh make like four dollars an hour exactly exactly and it was talking to Donald with the quarterback and I do not believe Tom Brady ever has quite gotten over the Malcolm Butler decision not to play him at the Minneapolis Super Bowl right at American Joe with me gets released history different as opposed to a guy like you see Mariah a man what's up you know go like been Watson you know he that Kinda Guy He's a great guy he's great in the Community Yep Talk to him about anything Guinea topic of family guy got a thank you welcome the seventh kid in that game and they lost what was the forty one to thirty three and Malcolm Butler was doghouse the whole game didn't play on defense but still skip out too who man to act like it's no big deal every single day I mean we apple we will move on without you okay are an interesting dynamic is he deserves Charles Could've won twelve super bowl ticket and calling tom read anything by him because then you would have to share some credit or this decision they might give you a a courtesy call one guy maybe it's a receiver what do you think about this guy but as far as like deciding defensive guy or d lyman okay glidden that works that way he keeps everybody it'll level playing field nobody thinks they're better than anybody else because if you do he hello I'm not getting over you try to get rid of me he did at the end of the day skill you tried to get rid of me November but Tom Thor's for five Oh five game of the week heisman hopeful Jalen hurts leads at number six Oklahoma against number eleven Texas in one of the best rivalries in all of college football remind you very quickly yeah just like you know mercy weeks start Saturday strong with the big news ever showdown but I'll start with the big kickoff pregame show at ten am eastern on Fox and Fox sports APP so in that Game Jalen will surely alright love the confidence we're now joined by Fox College football analyst Joel Klatt we will be there on Saturday one of our favorites said that mold it it gives personal skill especially we are like I said when you know a guy when you win because there are a lot of time I mean the strength of three guys in the locker room maybe the organization he said I plead the fifth that's crazy and they asked they asked him about Tom he always says we got a lot of good anyway he's only making two billion dollars Tom will help you only gave me eight me cut a B because you didn't want to give them all all whatever that read the one being the only make it to what the hell watched Oklahoma and Jalen hurts destroy Houston on Sunday night of Labor Day weekend on the Solo National Stage I came in and said he's going to win is it Jalen hurts I believe will put on a heisman show on Saturday and Youtube we'll get to enjoy it he will do so with sometimes you skip I'm going to start with you here because Oklahoma you know your team how important is this game for Jalen heisman chances as soon as and I believe he's going to have to put on a heisman show because he's going to have to score forty five points because I believe Oklahoma will allow looking to have his heisman moment when asked about the Red River rivalry game hurt said quote I played in the Iron Bowl I've played in big games I think I'll be Zama longer to score forty something and you're going to have the same game that you had with Hyler Murray and elegant last year which was forty eight to forty five Texas what you think about that but in basketball oh you best believe if the mets bring someone in they talk of the Cavalry K. D. obviously you would expect that for soup in the big twelve is not quite what it used to be even though there are five teams in the top twenty six on I don't know how you feel about the conference but TCU is what it is can only use third straight heisman but this is it this is for all the heisman marbles because Oh you schedule disfigured Komo's fascinate as as -CCOMPLISH as that yeah yeah I mean you know you work it you work at a say apple or Google you come up with these patents you you came up with are as well as his legs because he is throwing the heck out of the football under Lincoln Riley he is leading the nation in Q. B. R. Alan Hurts signed with the University of Oklahoma I told that man across from me I give only a good shot to win its third straight heisman trophy wow you discover the iphone and you came up with this APP it everybody's use it and it's like you know what we won't this guy this under you we're going to give him your job you know in Texas this year and he did it throw him for four hundred seventy one yards and four touchdowns tax in Austin and that was joe borough from LSU totally transformed Lsu by the way and one hundred thirty seven yards rushing and Stefan Robinson junior caught one hundred thirty one yards of balls five catches for one hundred thirty one and I'm saying I'm in the Middle Decent Kansas state in quite what it used to be Oklahoma state's okay but not great West Virginia's down a little bit from will greer so we can just keep going so this so much different than last year 'cause 'cause cuyler and Tula last year had separated themselves a bit even to this point in the season we were just talking about those two in this game obviously cuyler got revenge the big twelve ship game but silly me I thought that Alex grinch would be the grinch who stole six I I don't know about this defense because it starting to look like last year's defense so it's a great stage it's a Fox national game here Lsu and that's why I actually think this game from a heisman perspective is so big for Jalen hurts as we've already seen a guy that I would put in the top three in the discussion for Heisman for the seven and nothing touchdown and I'm like hiding my is thinking here we go again hookah Williams junior for the Kansas Jayhawks totally different team they're the number one scoring offense in the country by the way right now thirty one of thirty nine that night he was he was sensational and and we spoke with Tom Urban yes all the Christmas mornings that all the offense had against Oklahoma last year he came from the Ohio state where he was the CO defensive coordinator Greg and got he's GonNa Change Life then I watched the Kansas game last Saturday in Kansas with its first drive of the game went ninety nine and a half yards why this is so important for Jalen hurts not only is he playing another guy who could be in the discussion exam etlinger could and should be in this the discussion we've got such deep field Auburn and possibly George Lauder heroes the godly puts up two or three touchdowns per game they win how do you overcome season game yeah it's it's interesting you bring up a lot of good points in this game is obviously very important to the two teams but just in the heisman discussion he's in I don't think that that opportunity is GonNa be afforded Jalen so when it comes to the heisman trophy either of these guys have to win this game on Saturday in that cotton bowl they in Tom Urban said that was the best quarterback has played against the team that he was coaching since he can remember Just give you a sense of what Joe Borough did so that's you go and I think he can have his heisman moment and then put up a lot of big numbers the rest of the way but you're going to have to beat Sam Etlinger I in a regular that if you play your way out at this point in the season I don't know if there's going to be an opportunity to get back in right that discussion there was that opportunity for Kyle Murray last year he took advantage late in the you look at it for me he has to play well they have a chance but what who has worked in his favor Texas Lsu last year he was hurt that killed and he would he would he didn't play through two passes all fourth quarter all last year well he's playing you know what I'm trying to win this game I'm in the game and I walk into the sideline and I see coach Belichick I just caught my eye 'cause I'm walking towards Josh mcdaniels Komo Trae me tried to get rid of me that is correct that's exactly what you would think and he probably thinks that might flash through his head this afternoon Alan hurt so if he's throwing the ball or running the ball he is leading the country in yards per action play it's over twelve yards that's insane you got a lot of players you about brains we got a real good quarterback Tommy Tommy is really good he's a good quarter I mean it wouldn't be that hard but we got a lot of good what I mean a lot of people couldn't deal with that a lot of people can deal with Tom goes through because you got at some point you got pat me on my back sure in three straight games for two I'm telling you the class of heisman candidates this year is a lot like the class of national championship candidates this year when you look at the heisman trophy you start thinking about who's the most valuable for their team who's the best player in college football you know what do they do with the ball in their hands did you know that on an action play for used to that environment because you've been there in that game split at the fifty it's the most unique environment in college football here's one thing I will give Jalen is that in my estimation this guy is second in the country in rushing yards per attempt he's I in the country in passing yards per attempt you can go down the list has been sensational five touchdown in the fourth quarter this year for the simple fact and he doesn't have the injuries have decimated the depth of their deep news right so you got a lot of true freshman playing and so he's having to report three ball game yeah this might be fifty forty five ballgame both yeah what are you going to say then Oh to today what are they gave you then he's playing phenomenal he's twenty three and twenty three tubs zero pitch who took over the fourth quarter the SEC championship game I'm just asking that's GonNa be tough you talked about a number four Lsu you probably going to be talking about number three Georgia a number five and he's what if he fades down the stretch the way he did last contenders this year it's deep this is as deep as good of a field at the top in college football guys as we've had in a long time ago Tito ah I understand but even Madonna viggo Saturday good boy you gotta give you something to go Jim Gray ask Tom do you feel appreciated not the case this year guys there's a deep field candidate here Wisconsin Jonathan Taylor Justin fields at Ohio state you can bring up Joe Borough there's might be the first time 'cause normally Alabama LSU is a Shutout Alabama Sheldon twenty now this year or or twenty and what happens this year when Lsu and Alabama play their forty eight forty five game where people are going to say hey where to what defense go but you get one of those every game if a big a big title I don't think it's bigger but it is it is unique and I think that he's going to have to have at least a sense to get remember all of the and the that receiving coordination hand unbelievable nobody can touch that would you got judy who wanted to believe in a couple of war who might be second or third best receiver now you go where you go at rugs two thirds and Devante swing the game winner who just might have three in the first round they might be I'm not doing this quite always were you what makes you more nervous watching your cowboys or watching your sooners cowboys really I'd be nervous I'm just saying what you thought it was you go to Alabama those that defend the SEC always talk about the defense and then they get on the big twelve for games like forty eight forty five last year in the Red River game trend third down offense efficiency and third down defense efficiency so they're all they're much better team on defense than you're giving melander go nine of twelve on the replay his nose is where the ball is true in their defenses awful how do I palm I would disagree with you actually I think Oklahoma's defense has made drastic improvement in college football team that has provided more first round defensive players that Ohio state with eight and they're going to have a few more should be ashamed of themselves and not have more was one hundred eighteenth in third down defense one hundred eighteenth guess what they are this year V v they're the only team in the country in the top five in the called it Bush League yesterday video was released that shows that maker did shake hands with Sherman before the coin toss but did run away following the toss avoiding a second view some sense I think the biggest thing that you can do on Defense Shannon you know this from San on the sidelines get off the field whether it's via turnover third-down Oklahoma after the forty niners thirty one to three win on Sunday Richard Sherman claimed that Baker Mayfield refused to shake hands pre-game and call Oklahoma's one player on defense I consider one of the best players in all of college okay like a top five is linebacker Murray and he's like an handshake we're now joined by NFL network analysts mall of Famer but most importantly a former welcome shad dave six hundred good we go to pose yeah junior by the way I don't play for the University of Oklahoma so I'm not under you know body was tensed because of what he brought to the locker room he gave everybody a nickname and if you didn't like the nickname you're going to be in trouble you remember your Lincoln Riley's rules so are we lost the camera here so but I I gotta do all the bad look look bad the locker room because I would I would get up early go to lock them because that's what the fun part was you know that's where everybody was talking about each other He was a fashion police so that I tell people I said this is what Shannon was like he was the glue to the locker room he was he was the fun guy he was the guy that kept everything light we never were you know we got big games it is true I don't know I'm feeling about that one and to your credit minis only two and a half point favorite home so the odds makers or the B twelve and there's a reason why you want to deal with a guy when teams didn't the mall teams in the NFL when they won't defensive guys what conference do they go if you have if you have your stuff right you'll get it from him but I want them to the Locker Room in two thousand and remembering like this place is dead you know he wasn't there you didn't have the same energy than have the same environment and we're talking about you talk about the locker rooms and they say listen the Camaraderie and the energy you might it's incredible everybody jumping jalen hurts when he said well I played in the Iron Bowl whatever not to read where do the do start to national title game the Red River Robin Answer the question what was he likes as a team may you guys are getting a full view of what was live every day in our locker in those two I trust Oklahoma More organized on that Oh thank you you in a couple of days eight over he's pretty good well Oklahoma's go by eighty Texas is one twenty six pass deep out of a hundred and thirty and got three defensive starters out in the second you go to the big twelve quarterbacks where they go Ohio state big autobahn within the last four years. There's I like Oh door Thanksgiving you'll see it takes the fight at Har what if he can't even be Jill borough there's going to be it's going to be your it is and I'm not going to say so he was that guy but you know when you left in two thousand I remembered like going traumatize them what they gotta play for more today with all them rounded they got and do what figured you'd say that I just have one last question for Joel Klatt let's see the chemistry that's talking about having a player like that not only in the locker room but again on a field as you know he was really good or shedding a few times in the offseason you see the way he is right now I remember thinking going to Atlanta two weeks we're GONNA have a great tire get to this House stated for two weeks uh reason maybe it's because he doesn't feel that he's paid the NFL to respect or some of the players the respect that it reserves so he had this in his mind. Okay Addison Right Baker Mayfield I get it people don't like him because he's a very confident young man but that can only take you so far on this level he hasn't done anything yet I get that this was conjured up this to me was something that was preconceived the locker room they don't like Baker for a number of reasons nick the handshake and say that I don't like him because he didn't shake my hand and then come back and say well he didn't he didn't shake my hand a second time I remember go out there and doing at that and I thought it was funny Terrell what do you make of what Sherman is saying his comments all right so when I said it doesn't like him because of the thing he did on his field Ohio state I get all that but just make up something before the Baker Mayfield consists that because you notice Baker Mayfield extended and everybody else except sure yeah he's doing back like up but if you make it up but you can't take it public right and say he didn't shake my hand before the coin toss when clearly the video shows that before the game and guys typically yeah they'll shake your hand before the the coin taller but then after that guys just take off my I caught my ear he says I don't normally talk but it was hill and that's what bakers created for himself by doing all this talking even ask for him to conjure that up and maybe that's what he got the forty niners where it needed to beat it worked it worked but what I will tell you this Nick Bosa says something that there's somebody saves some mcfaul shattered the team route up well that's what this was this was this is fake motivation for Baker Mayfield because they don't like him for whatever reason listen you don't have to make it do it a second time you're making this this kind of energy for your team because a lot of times you know when you locker room and it's quiet and we used to call it false aw that's what I'm going basketball when I see it I'm like okay shook his hand but what this goes back to td touchstone it Richard Sherman does not like Baker Mayfield for whatever warpaint Oh you put the black on the is everybody like Nah we we'd winners warlike mentality the analogy we is us against you audits I liked hearing that good stories she ended nothing's changed dictate fashion police are all right. Let's go back to handshake gate which Shanna off the field but they hated him on the football field so now he was getting all the attention which meant that I was getting the attention which I didn't like this is what Baker Mayfield e look at me type of thing you are attracting a lot of the unwanted attention and what comes with that a lot of pressure a lot of expectations at this level skill but I just walked in the door you got something that deep inside to make you go that extra step needs to be careful so this game is hard enough you can't do it and that's what I and that was my thing and that was the notion that what I got from what I gathered he didn't shake his hand period there because it made I think they have they don't have any relationship but you syncing body language with the body language and he can tell you what we had a lot of it and it's hard to perform this game is tough enough already so just play this game especially as a young player coming in you the week and we had to cheat and chiefly hey jeeze but we are the coin toss we will shake it up but I'm just so you know but mechanical hit the town do as you man well he owes you because you carried him to what I would you know I'm trying to keep expectations low Shannon is over there talking to everybody so he's wrong people love he is he was the Baker Mayfield in terms of people they call guys to go out of their way to try to get at him now he needs all that chip on your shoulder everybody got a chip on the shoulder to get to this level because you don't just take off I took off like I shook your hand once I don't need to shake your hand a second right so to say that to come back about Oh no no he did he did it the first time I want everybody to have the same Energy Richard had post Game Ryan attacking Baker unfairly in criticizing that's created Yup and you guys were talking about earlier about kirk cousins and Dak in terms of like you know expectations I was thinking my mind owners were planned the chiefs I'm helping the Guy Nice little run

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They roll average teams Mike Tyson did that if you were average passer prime, Abi fighter man, you look at Tyson you're like he destroyed the greatest fighters of all time. But when you put Lennox Lewis in the ring with him, he was outclassed when you put Evander Holyfield two times in the ring with him a great technical fighter I guy with a Chin Mike Tyson. Look lost. That's what the steelers are. We knew. The steelers, we're going to beat a new head coach. Do you understand the last decade the Pittsburgh steelers against the BROWNS and bengals bad organizations Are Thirty three, six and one. But what are they against the Ravens in the Patriots Decade? Ten and eighteen. and. Those are the teams you gotTa beat to get to the land where the steelers feel. Is, there's super bowls. That's that's what Pittsburgh is about. This is not the New York mets this is not the jags. This is not you know the Milwaukee Bucks. The Pittsburgh steelers, this is looking for the fifth ring. You know one for the thumb is this is the Pittsburgh steelers, right? Even last year, they were eight and two on their third string quarterback, a guy named duck. And when you're the steelers and you have great ownership and a great GM and hall of Fame Quarterback, and they always have great weapon always have great wide receivers and a good offensive line and linebackers that can run over the field but you have cotton new woody. You're GONNA beat half the teams on your schedule just because you're not a dumpster fire and they never our Last night was classic. Pittsburgh Whoa I think they're a super bowl team dominated yeah. Because they're. Buttoned up in terms of organizationally they draft well, they develop players, they do a great job. But then they run into those elite teams and those elite quarterbacks. And you do get in two, thousand, twenty, the AFC runs through Andy Reid Hall of Famer Patrick Mom's going to be a hall of Famer Lamar Jackson. world-class John Harbaugh probably gets into the hall of fame. Giants are not what you've got to get through the New York giants new head coach new coordinator, new system second year quarterback, and Daniel Jones. Pittsburgh's been beaten up on that for the last decade. That's not the issue. The giants are a lot closer to the browns and the bengals than they are to the Ravens and the chiefs today the giants are a mess. I know what I get from. Pittsburgh. When they face teams like that. Again just having their front office in their ownership and Big Ben in continuity which they almost always have. That's going to a solid head coach and a solid quarterback. You'RE GONNA win a bunch of games in the NFL just because you've got your, you know what? Together? But but the steelers nine and seven and out in the first round ten, six second in the division wild car out in the first round. That's not what the steelers were about. Their standards are much much higher. Their standards are the ravens standards and you know the packer standards and the Patriots. Standards. That's their standards here and last night last night. My. Takeaways. The new. York giants stink. And number two it's big band back. This good big Ben back I'm having to see Big Ben. Fan of duck hodges, but good to have big Ben back and all those receivers and the steelers and the winning it's Monday night. But Tomlin. He knows the truth about this season and he knows the truth about last night. Thought, they showed their mettle. Today were. Physically tough. Mentally Tough but we gotta we gotta do some things better in You know we knew we weren't going to be perfect tonight We talked about that openly last night in preparation for this opportunity. But, but there's more meat on the bone appre. Appreciate the efforts we search for a higher ceiling in terms of quality of play. At. least the coach knows that's the good news he knows what he saw. He knows what they have to be to get back to a steeler level not beating a lousy giants team Brown's and Bingles, and all that NFL nonsense. Okay. So nobody likes criticism. Let's be honest about it. I don't like it. You don't like it even constructive criticism from people. We respect we don't sleep well that night. Tom Brady got ripped by his coach, the wording. Was a little loose for my taste bruce. Arians. Criticizing Tom, Brady. The wording at the end of this is not real precise. Here we go. I mean he looked like Tom Brady in practice all the time. So it was kind of unusual to see that in the ball game because they didn't do the things that we didn't get ready for everything they did we thought we were ready for he knew he didn't play very well and It's not what he expects from self nor do we expect so I wouldn't have testified him to have little more Grit Lamar determination this week. The excuse me? Tom Brady wasn't determined enough. I don't know if your television sets been working for twenty years. Tom's got issues. Not The greatest athlete. But the determination thing I'm GonNa go with Tom's good on that secret practices helicopters hovering at high schools Tampa. You gotta be careful here. Bruce Arians has loose. His lips are loose. His teams are loose. Last year led the NFL and penalties the first week nine penalties punt blocked. That's Tampa. That's Bruce Arians. By the way Arians admitted after looking at the film. Oh wait that first interception that was on Mike. Evans. That was not on Tom Brady. It's not a small thing. Arians. Reminds me a little bit Brett Farve. talented. Gunslinger. Details. kind of a go with a gut. Guy. I like Arians. I. Liked Farve. But you're dealing with Tom Brady. The greatest his position ever and Brady is the opposite of Farve. He is the opposite of Aryans. He is absurdly buttoned-up absurdly detailed. Ridiculously committed. Beyond obsessed. I'd be careful about questioning the determination thing. This was always my concern Tampa. You had this almost mit Harvard, level commitment and attention to detail. You just work you sleep at the facility. And in Tampa. That's not what they are. It's loose. It's fun. It's Tequila five thirty. I'm not even talking directly to air it's just the organisation I used to cover it. It's not aspirational. It's not buttoned up. Hey, there's always tomorrow we lost a playoff game. Oh, wait. They don't get to the playoffs longest NFC drought in the playoffs longer than Detroit. Jimmy Johnson said this yesterday. The greater the quarterback the more careful you have to be with the public criticism. Anytime, you call out one of your players publicly. Especially, a quarterback with their egos You'RE GONNA, call some teaching there and I think it's tension that you don't really need. But you know sometimes all of us you know. Reporters asking questions you know right off the cuff, you want to give them the right answer lot of times you shouldn't give them the right answer. Got It best. owned a Cincinnati. And so Yeah I don't think it's good to publicly criticize your quarterback listen Arians Bay basically came out and said, listen they didn't show US anything. We didn't expect translation I. got it. Right? He didn't. Mama my game plan was great wasn't. It's got to be careful listen. The other thing is people who are driven and goal oriented and tough on themselves. Tom Knows his mistakes the people you have to get after are the ones like Baker Mayfield who play average football and think they're great and have no humility Joe Borough came out this weekend play darn. Well, he's like I I was bad i. have to worry about job rural I have to worry about Brady. I don't have to worry about Russell Wilson I have to worry about Lamar Jackson those guys are great. And they're beam their be plus efforts there like is lousy gotta worry about the people who play average and think they're great. Brady knows he wasn't ideal. Brady knows of his mistakes. He's buttoned up Tampa historically not just be careful what I say here. It's a long season. Coming up next Denver Tennessee, I know it was a shanking kicks. It was a mass late into the night but. Patience. Is Really. Important. And that game doesn't mean much. 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Just noticed matches are set. That's amazing. This is my my my Pittsburgh I'm black and yellow. You do that. You're very good but it doesn't. so listen. Tennessee Beats Denver, and all of us sportscaster today could just crush VIC Fangio who didn't use his time outs as Tennessee was driving down the field, you know eighty yards, twelve plays you're thinking to yourself call some timeout calls some time outs. It's always it's kind of you know ballot check sometimes let's other teams member the Super Bowl where I didn't call a timeout and he let the seahawks and Pete. Carroll Freak out. Like. There's a lot of different ways to do this. Some coaches are like, no, this is hard Ryan Tanna hills average I'm a good defensive coordinator I'm not GONNA call timeouts I'm going to see if you can figure out how to get down the field I could I could beat up on. Vic. Fangio a lot of coaches see the world differently Bella Check has been one of these guys historically is your quarterbacks not great. I'm not, GONNA use my timeouts. You see if you can go down the field seventy yards whatever I'm not going to bang on Vic Fangio I would have called timeouts but but there's a lot of different ways in the NFL at the end of games to use your time out. I don't think you should be saving them I'll say that. But that that game's not about. Those timeouts. This is about drew lock. We are seeing all these great young quarterbacks in the League. We saw another one joe looks potentially very good. That's what this leagues all about right now. Do you have? A kingmaker. Do you have playmaker to you? Let's like cuyler Murray's that Guy We got Patrick Mahomes that Guy Lamar's that Guy Russell's that Guy Aaron Rodgers, still that guy. That's what this league is about. Drouot. That game's not about losing last night. It's about being patient because Denver's got a really good young tight end. And two good running backs and it looks like a potential. Star. Wide Receiver. Don't go crazy on last night. Some teams are looking to win the super bowl this year you know who they are the ravens chief Seattle Green, Bay, San Francisco The saints. This team's not a super bowl team that is not their goal. Their goal is to find a franchise quarterback since John elway retired years and years and years and years and decades ago the can't find one the had to rent one and Peyton manning old and had four neck surgeries by the time he got the Denver. Okay Denver has a new head coach. Don't don't go crazy on this. They got a new offensive coordinator there. Number one receiver was out there. Number two receiver is a rookie their tight end a second year tight end drew locks got six starts. In Tennessee's been around a while there are good nine and seventeen. There are a playoff team don't get into the minutia with Fangio. I would've called the time outs, but last night is about more than that. A. Lot of teams seven, eight, nine, ten, they think they can win the Super Bowl Denver does, but they can't that's were they're at they're not in that space. This is a really good franchise. They can't get the quarterback, right? I think they have a chance if they're patient was Vic Fangio, the right guy. Would drew lock I don't know. You don't have to have an offensive coach. I mean is John Harbaugh offensive coach. He's been great for Lamar Jackson is Sean McDermott in Buffalo offensive coach. nope. He's been great for Josh Allen Pete. Carroll's a defensive coach Russell Wilson's got to Super Bowl trips in one title. You don't have to be an offensive coach. It would be great if everybody had Kyle Shanahan but Jimmy Garoppolo has kyle Shanahan and sometimes you're not sure if they get along John Gruden's offense offensive guy and he's brutally harsh on Derek Carr sometimes, the offensive coach is demanding. Is a perfectionist and as his own system and worldview and it doesn't work with the quarterback. I. Don't know Vic. FANGIO'S THE GUYS I would've used timeouts last night but the fascinating team is the team that won last night. Tennessee's Got Ryan Tannehill in the AFC. Ceiling low next issue. They'll nine and seven because they always do rape a very good coach. They can run the ball they're tough. You know they'll be fine. The Stories Denver. Can they find the next elway now? This is an elway. You don't need an Elway to win the Super Bowl. You got to be patient as far as the time outs. Vic Fangio. Is He the future I don't know little old out of touch sometimes but here's his explanation. Well. TWOFOLD THEIR ONE, they're fearful kicker obviously been having problems. So I didn't want to extend the drive to where they could get closer number one and number two. You know we would've used the time out, but we got the running back out of bounds. We would use the second time out that they threw an incompletion. which would have given us one last when we got the ball back so. That was part of the same in they're. Not, GonNa crush him for that I would used them. Who I respect who have super bowls not use them. Any reads a great coach. His time management is always been the one thing he not for. So you know I would've used them, but I think the fascinating thing is sometimes the team that wins is not the story the drew lock with fant and Melvin Gordon and Judy, and I'm telling you Denver, skill people were young and they may not be on your fantasy team they got a lot of talent they have drafted. John Elway, you're going to have your critics of him, but they are ready. If drew lock is the Guy Watch out because they are stacked offensively at the skill positions joy with the news. The News, this is the heard line news. Well, the other big story. Last night's as just mentioned kicker Stephen Gostkowski at. Night Game Hausky. Titans debut. Last night he missed three field goals in an extra point leaving ten points on the board. But with seventeen seconds remaining he redeemed himself. Sort of and hit the game winning field goal. Get his team, the sixteen fourteen win over the broncos. What have you done for me lately? That's what this league is. Yes. We're not gonNA. I don't know. Do you forget that he even that much I A pretty substantial most classic ballot check cut the Hall of fame kicker and he suddenly can't kick. Bella Chaco is just gets rid of a guide Josh everybody else everybody paid pulver paid for like Malcolm Butler and Dion Lewis and he just builds into the league everyone run leaky foam for every single time. I checked muscle love that well look at fourteen seasons New England's three super. Bowl rings four pro bowl kicker. He's a hall of Famer p left the. All time leading scorer. He is a hall of Famer. It's just rough that was that was. That was something. It's painful to what you know. What's funny about that is that Nobody really ages well in the NFL. The difference is like a punter. He shanks a couple and he just disappears into the ether. Right when a kicked her age is poorly it's like you know the cameras right on him it usually is crucial. Sympathy for. You're not doing anything during OTA's trained least athletic slayer hang out with other kickers if you're in the shade and you just come in, but then all the pressures on you, right? We don't see or hear from you until you got to save the game. We've never done a kicker segment until today and that tells you. We don't talk about we never talk about the kid in. Baltimore. been is one of the great figures in the history. Yeah. We never talk about him. We only talk about we only talk offensive linemen and kickers. When you screw up is the only time we talk about entering the game he'd never missed three field goals in a game and forty to forty seven and had A. Forty four yard attempts blocked and he is now missed an extra point attempt in four consecutive games. So it's over, it's when it went down quickly. So beca didn't shine the way star receiver should on Sunday three receptions, twenty, two yards against the Ravens albeit of pretty rough game for the browns all around. He did have a Game-high ten targets though and Kevin Spacey is hoping maker can get the ball to their star receiver even more going forward. I think we've got a pretty good feel for Danone his skill set I mean he's a talented football players. So it's our job to put him in position to make plays were mindful of all of our players in terms of how they're touching and there was opportunities early where the coverage took it away or somebody else's open those type of things. But he's a good football player so I don't think it's Newsworthy that he's a focal point of our. Further? Record. Thursday night football. This week bengals Brown's Baker against. Borough. I'll tell you this is we we said yesterday. This is where the NFL is different than every sport in America you and I would never watch bad anything college football hockey. Bengals browns could end up not being good. I cannot wait I'm told a house. Party. Thursday I cannot wait for Baker versus borough dogs. Yes. Sure. They'll be as jazzed. For. Borough and Baker they were for Brady and brees. Listen everyone was jazz for. Brady and brees best best rating since the Super Bowl but it's a game. It's a real game. This is something and it could go very badly. The bengals have nothing to lose if they lose as expected what the browns after Pittsburgh looked pretty good last night now. By the Ravens Boy It. This it sounds overly dramatic. This game for Cleveland on Thursday is massive. You cannot go to and if the steelers and the Ravens to know. Can't go do I sound ridiculous saying net. They just lost the Division, Game You've division opponent on Thursday the steelers just one. Absolutely, this is a massive for Moscow for. Graphics Thursday I will say though. Man Like I'm not ready to give up on Odell. So can we just we just get him out of? Like I. Don't WanNA. Hear that but. It doesn't fit perfectly. It's not working and I understand that Odell was hurt last year most of the year but like and I don't overreact week one. You. Only have a couple games to to prove me wrong with that statement like this guy, you gotta get him going. This is a huge piece to your offense whether he necessarily is or not. His name alone demands that he does be that he has to be a big part of your offense. Otherwise he's got to be a piece I just think he's a star and I just feel like he is he's lost in Cleveland. He's done an amazing job of buying into everything Cleveland's doing. So I don't think that it's his faults and I think it's baseball I just think it's not working something's some relationships don't work. Finally. Following their disappointing exit in the playoffs fucks ownership is showing on his they're committed to building championship team. Jon Us apparently met with the owner Mark Lazarie for three hours last week to discuss the future of the team. And lies reassured him that they are willing to spend into the luxury tax write off season in order to build a stronger supporting cast three hours is a long meeting that is along the effort for that's a long meeting I. Mean I love my wife but we're not drinking wine I haven't sat and talked for three hours. That's intense. The also stopped following some of the box on followed the team and his teammates twitter and instagram after they were eliminated in the postseason he stopped following him. Yeah. Okay. What does that mean? Well, what does that mean? I don't know so. It's something like it can't be nothing. You cannot tell me I'm GONNA I'm no longer follow any of my coworkers and that there's not som- unless you started that way unless you're beyond saying you only follow. One person or you don't follow Baker. Are used to only. Okay. So you've expanded now. Yeah. So unless you that's just what you do and you don't follow anybody. That's fine but you can't have follow them and then unfold them and then say Thank you. That doesn't work I mean even if you don't. Let's say you like Oh like I. Don't use anymore just look at it. You don't need to follow it. You know it sends a message. Thank you. So I don't I don't know that I buy into this. I'm not saying that they're not going to try to spend more money but honest does decide to stay in Milwaukee and I know that there is a certain section of MBA Phantom and obviously Milwaukee fans that hope that he does that I am not one of them. The East is not going to look like this next year I keep telling you this. Kevin. Durant is coming back. He's going to be in Brooklyn you better bring something. It's not going to look the same here going to get better Boston it's GonNa, get better Toronto can make moves at any time as we know they've already done it. So if you're going to spend I suggest you'd be aggressive joy with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping. Heard lie and I will say this I've never a three hour meeting in my life that lasted that long right didn't yell at somebody. I've had a million means it's too long. Three s three hours. We had a disagreement or we'd been been Outta here in ninety minutes three we meet for three hours every day. To and it's mostly because we gave breaks though where we don't have to talk. It's something went on in that meeting that wasn't ideal have. Okay. So vanda rash good linebacker for the cowboys surgery collarbone out now for probably six to eight weeks jar when the tight end out for the season. Okay. This is what happened to the La Rams when you got seven or eight massive contracts. You have less depth and one or two injuries. ooh and the season goes downhill last year the rams we're going to be good, right? They just got to the Super Bowl. Then they have a center and then they lose then they lose a guy on free agency and they have a couple of injuries and all of a sudden you're like rams can't protect Goff and the see Todd Gurley. Okay. When you have a top heavy roster. You're going to have to steal from somewhere else you can't pay everybody and be deep. And the steelers and the Patriots have always been very good at this the packers to. That they don't pay a lot of people and we complain I don't pay enough people but they've got a little more depth than they can lose one player and be okay in Green Bay and they can lose last year the steelers lost. A quarterback and then a second and they were still eight nate and New England loses people at its next man up the problem is who's your man? And so the rams are top heavy. They paid girly too much too early. They paid brandin cooks too much. They Jalen. Ramsey. I like him. But they're paying him about thirty percent more than the market bears and the rams. Now they've been healthy so far. But we saw it last year Philadelphia Eagles this weekend they pay went to ton Fletcher talks? A ton lane Johnson, a ton Brandon Brooks, a ton alshon, jeffery a ton. Elaine's hurt their disintegrate against Washington. This is what happens in this league. That's why I always say I'm not against players getting paid. Pay, infrequently, you pay a handful of stars big money and then you don't, and then you make tough decisions by the way. Kansas City. is becoming this a little bit. Chris Jones a lot a mahomes get a lot and then Sammy Watkins, allot you better restructure that and Travis Kelsey Allot and all of a sudden you look up one day and you're like, you're a honey badger injury away or Mitchell Schwartz injury away from it can't protect mahomes you're playing from behind. He's throwing too much. So this is my knock on Dallas Dallas the rams and the eagles have a lot of big paychecks and a lot of stars and it's great when they're healthy but dialysis now one more injury away Tyron Smith left tackle. He's an older he's great, but he's not built to play sixteen games anymore. So now they've lost Gerald McCoy defensive tackle out for the year. Tied in out for the year, Senator Gone, retired Tyron Smith keep your fingers crossed. Vanish. Out For two months, they are a Tyron Smith injury at left tackle from being in some real chaos in Dallas. So this is this. Just paid back it's like this is why the franchise tag was built like you better get that quarterback contract right you better get it right In as much as I like Kansas City. Chris Jones goes down. Now you don't have the pass rush now Patrick Mahomes is in shootouts. So you know I'm not anti paying players. I'm not. I am for paying. Your hit makers and your stars. But this is this is fairly predictable with Dallas. There one more injury away from. The season's unraveling. All right. Doug Gottlieb is around the corner top of the hour the herd hierarchy I put so much into this and I'm so into it I don't know why the top ten teams in the League is so interesting to me, but it is an you hate me every Tuesday and I love doing it and we have that in Doug Gottlieb's coming up next a lot of different topics. Be Sure to catch live editions of the heard Weekdays at noon eastern nine am Pacific heard hierarchy top of next hour. It is so nice. So we got a great Sunday. and. Then we get Monday night football. TONIGHT WE HAVE THE CLIPPERS GAME AGAINST DENVER game seven by the way this just in this just leaked Brett mcmurphy a reporter. The big ten is set to announce that they're going to resume play. We talked about this last week I heard this last Wednesday I was told last Wednesday by a guy up the chain. They were GONNA play mid. October. It's been finalized October seventeenth the big ten will play the reason the story got out. Nebraska's athletic director on a hot. Mike. Didn't know it was on the Mike, let it slip. Net Nebraska president my bad. Sorry. The was fine. It's the goofy president in a bow tie that screwed up. So the president for Nebraska on a hot Mike boom and got in trouble. But this is what we talked about last Wednesday I was hearing from two sources up the food chain of the big ten they were going to resume play PAC twelve off sleeping whatevs not a shock but the big ten's coming back I feel good for Ohio state I'm happy for Ohio state everybody in their states playing except the Buckeyes I totally get the frustration. I'm I'm very happy for Ohio State. There are a national championship team deserve to play. They want to play kids do coaches do parents do all right let's bring in. Doug Gottlieb. Brought to you by Mercedes Benz the best or nothing. So my take away the steelers last night was I know that beat the giants? There was the crappy teams but did you see a team that's got next level potential? That's the question for me always with Pittsburgh. I look I we cy relatively healthy Ben Rothlisberger I think that was the big question right I. Mean it's a lot like the Cam Newton? Thing Cam. Newton, was healthy. We still don't know if he can throw the football downfield or take a beating the rest of the season, but I look Ben obviously looked far healthier than he had last year when he had that big grizzly beard and looked about fifty pounds overweight. So it look they did what? They were supposed to do. I was disappointed in Joe, judge. punting on the steelers forty yard lines first year you get a pass if you didn't get it, he was super super conservative but I I have no sense for the top of the food, the Ravens and the chiefs went the Kansas City chiefs will look like I just know that Ben Rothlisberger for now appears to be healthy and if he's healthy combined with a talent defense, they should have a shot. By the way drew lock I'm not sure what he is I think they've surrounded him with some really compelling parts. What was your torture grade what your takeaway on you see from the young kid? Well look I do think he's talented. He is athletic and they're using the right way rolling him out remember they didn't have Portland Sahni didn't play last drive and. And Melvin Gordon suddenly become a big fumble or at least against the Tennessee titans going back to his his charger days they've given him weapons. The line is better than it's been but we also have to remember that the score was not really indicative of the Game Gay. Yes. Jerry. Judy big drop which changed the game yesterday didn't have Portland sudden but if Gostkowski can make any of those field goals, it's not close late Wright changed the. Complete tenor of the game that here a norm- normally a very good great kicker can't make a forty yard field goal which in the NFL is like an eighty, five, ninety percent shot. So especially in Denver so look do I like him yes. Do I think they have the quarterback of the present? Yes. Is the the long term solution it feels that way. But again, let's kind of take a breath and realize that the titans should've won by. Six, to nine points that they could simply make fuel Gore next point listen we all know when you're an athlete you criticized we get it. It's part of it, but it is interesting when you're the greatest player ever and a very loose operator is telling you I think you'll be determined next week like Brady's got issues determinations never been one of them. I'm on the Jimmy Johnson side I not a huge fan. Of going after Brady Aryan backtracked a little I like Bruce Arians but Doug I always feel he's a little loose I. Think you take a deep breath I didn't love the criticism o'brady publicly your thoughts. Well, the big part is publicly right all that stuff he said behind closed doors I don't think Brady has a problem with I'm not sure Brady actually has a problem with it publicly it's just the idea of this was. One of the reasons that we were told Giselle was ticked at Bill Belichick was he he treated him just like he was anybody else not like a superstar quarterback courses a supermodel she's used to being treated like somebody else. So how Brady reacts and I don't think anybody thinks that Brady played well, especially Brady the part that bothered me was the arrogant. There's nothing that they did that we didn't prepare for. Yeah, I think. That's the it's not me. It's you when you're supposed to do this Sean mcvay have you ever seen a Sean mcvay press conference? Yeah. Everyone looks exactly the same. The players are great. Went wrong. It's on me. We gotta figure it out and then I'm sure behind closed doors is the exact opposite. Do this was coming. It was odd but if you ask people in Tampa, this is kind of how he rolls right calls his left. Calls out his quarterback doesn't really care. I'm I'm intrigued to see how this marriage the second marriage for Brady goes because they do run loose ship they do commit penalties that they didn't commit in New England they do you know you do have coach who calls you out in in a public setting like a like a press conference? It is kind of Loosey Goosey, and it isn't the same culture he's used to, and there's a lot of reasons that only thirty three percent the free agents hit like you asking people to say one third of reagents hit the you overpay for free agents it'll be interesting to see at this is a hit or this is amiss he has forty-three. He looked forty three. He missed some throws that he should miss and he's playing in the perfect conditions the perfect conditions of dome. What happens when those conditions change and what happens when now the sun he gets criticism when he doesn't have the equity like, Bill. Belichick, criticize you because Bill Belichick has six rings. Bill Belichick has done it with you can do it without you. He Win ten games with Matt Cassel. So I I'll be really interested to see how this marriage proceeds. All right. You're a basketball guide to I. WANNA I WANNA get to game seven tonight clippers and Denver. So I you know one of the things I'll talk about later is takeout dynasties takeout MJ takeout Golden State durant. A lot of series go deep nine in the last twelve. NBA Champs have gone seven-game somewhere in the playoffs. Are we just overreacting in realizing nobody ever said the clippers were great we think they're the best team in a year of bunch of good teams and that game seven doesn't con. There's No big conclusion that they've been a disappointment. WHOA. Others. There's look there's a lot to what makes this different? Okay. It's not that they forced a game seven rice I like the ad to go to Denver you played in the altitude and hit every three. But you're up what sixteen nineteen back to back games and wasn't just they're up nineteen in game six because the rest of the world was watching the NFL or maybe the US Open and tennis like they went from up nineteen to get blown out by the scores fourteen they they got boat raced in the second half. There's something wrong there, and I don't know whether it's you know they got bubble fever. Where you got you know Lou Williams wants to get out and get on the town Paul George has said it's it's hurt his mental health. I don't think they have a point guard. I think it's really hard to have a leader who's relatively mute coli Leonard. You and you have no culture of winning their the clippers have literally never been past the second round. So you're telling people about something that there's never been accomplished with that name across the front of your chest, which I do think is something. But the juxtaposition of the Lakers who smell blood with the Houston Rockets and stop them out and said you have no shot yeah. To the clippers who have allowed the nuggets to hang around. By the way, this sounds ridiculous but Brown's Bengals feel so important for Cleveland, on Thursday night. You got a minute left like we're not crazy like that feels like a huge game for Baker Mayfield in. Cleveland Right. Correct correct look. The bengals are a little bit better than you think remember they get Joe Mixon who was injured some last year back Aj Green is back. The defense has been rebuilt but Cleveland personnel wise like if you're doing a pickup game Out of the twenty, two guys in the field generally you're GONNA take about eighteen Cleveland browns nineteen and Baker Baker looks in the mirror and thinks he's Russell Wilson and he's got to be drew brees and he's not this is the type of game you lose on Thursday night and all of a sudden it becomes a dumpster fire because Oh Dell's not happy the defense isn't competing well and Baker Mayfield gets the blame remember the the coaches the first ago that's gone. Then the GM next thing goes the players specifically, the quarterback Thursday night is massive in Ohio good stuff, Doug, Gottlieb, W, foxborough sports radio after our show. Good talking to you bud. Great to catch up nice beard. Thank you. It really is actually you know that's the great thing about shortened season I you and I have talked about this I. Think the NBA should be about sixty eight games long why every matters like when I was a kid? Van Halen was big. That was that was a rock band van Halen came to Seattle once that's it. You got him like every every third year Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth came into town we had to go. If. It's van. Halen showed up four times a summer and did some Lollapalooza thing and their. Scarcity equals intensity equals urgency. You go down your own to if you're Cleveland the Ravens, look like the best team ever created Pittsburgh schedule Pittsburgh schedule this morning it is a lot of fluff. It has a lot of home. Games. Against chaotic teams, they get the AFC east this year. You go onto and borough. Bu. We got a major problem in the Baker Mayfield Cap. Now I do think to Doug's point. This is one of these. If you're on a football field and could just you're picking the teams is about three guys from Cincinnati I'd take I'd take the rest of the browns roster bull. 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Baker Mayfield, NBA Trade Deadline, And The XFL

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Baker Mayfield, NBA Trade Deadline, And The XFL

"On today's part of my take we have our good friend. Baker Mayfield. We do a little. Pr One zero one for what the browns season was we figure out our strategy going foreword we also have. NBA Trade deadline a bunch of moves. Maybe the craziest trade deadline ever this league will jinx jinx primary coke We have fire fest. We have. XFL preview we have FAQ's a packed. Friday show for you and we were brought to you by the cash APP part might take always brought brought to you by the cash APP. Not only is it the easiest place to send money to your friends. But it's also the place where you can buy fractional shares of stock with as little as one dollar Hank are you gonNA put some money in the stock market share. What all the markets off just the which was off mark is market steel you steal market offer oil yet gold always good to buy gold what about WWE Hogs sure do aero- hogson. Yeah well they're going to do you can do it with the cash at brokerage services are provided by cash up investing a subsidiary of square member. SIPC and of course when you download the cash cash entered the referral code Barstool. You'll receive ten dollars. Go Buy yourself a beer a couple beers and the cash apple Nelson ten dollars to the ASPCA download the cash from the APP store. Google play store. Let's go on. Look sure the report of my take is enterprise the cash go down right now. Parsley get ten dollars. Free you ten dollars to a SPCA today is Friday February seventh and we had the NBA trade deadline. Huge News. Massive breaking news. Miami Miami Heat Getting stronger Andre Goodall Finesse. King of the world somehow sat out for half the year in his now getting paid more. You got two years years. Thirty million aged thirty six and to live in Miami and to live in Miami that is cj mccomb recurring guests actually said it perfectly. He was like like my my guy got to promote his book. Spend time with his family get his mind right and then gets to move to Miami. Gets A shitload of money. Well what is great is he was in Memphis right so he was getting paid under the Tennessee tax which is no state income tax. Right now. He's going to Florida. Also no state income tax and Miami heat are improving global global warming. Now are you not worried about. Losing Justice winslow not worried about that. All he was never one of your favorite. No no listen justice was he's a carpetbagger right. He was Zehr. You never felt like he was part of that core group like Jay. But so I'm feeling good about moving forward but I do think that the clippers got a lot better. Oh yeah and I hope that they keep is eight Thomas. I'm hearing that they might just let him go which is a very NBA thing. Get somebody like actually no no. Yeah so the Clippers got Marcus Morris which is going to be awesome when go against Lebron. I feel like he's one of those guys in the League who there's no Lebron stopper. But he's one of the guys who can make him and he wants to he right he wants right welcomes the challenge. He wants that he wants to Annoy Lebron to no end and he's got that toughness to them that Oh man. He's like what to Shawn Stevenson wishes he was. I'm excited. I'm excited I. I actually am excited to see if the clippers and Lakers played in the western conference finals. That would be actually also so i. I like Moore's out there. I like keeping Isaiah because he is also also a Lebron stopper in a much different way. So Morris is a guy that can bully Lebron and Isaiah. Thomas is a guy that Lebron sucks at bullying but he still loves to bully right. So like Lebron's brain will be trapped in a tornado of just like who do I go after who's annoy me more at this time and I feel like that's a that's a good asset to have on your team if you need to get inside his head in the Western Conference finals. The other big trade was the timber. Walls traded four de Ngelo Russell. They traded away Andrew Wiggins who. How do you think Andrew Wiggins says? He's not that old right. He's like twenty eight twenty seven. He's twenty four. Oh Shit yes I. When I saw that it was a what he's going to be twenty five in a few weeks but still he's the classic guy where you could just Andrew Wiggins I feel like might might be a new age Jeff Green where he will get traded now this will start like the process of him being traded a million different ways better than that but a million different teams and everyone will? Oh keep saying well. He's only twenty six. Well he's only twenty seven. Yeah he's got all the upside but more importantly this was a classic. NBA Trade where the timber. Wolves are like like we have a franchise Guy Karl Anthony towns. Who is very very unhappy? I think the timber wolves have lost thirteen in a row. So let's just treat for his best friend and that's what they torso is his best friend. They traded for him. They now are thinking everyone's talking. About how Devon Booker. WHO's like? It's his new age big three best friend group that that wants to all be together. Sons fans are freaking out. I put the monopoly pieces together. Chill Okeafor is now the most important trade chip in the NBA. Because if the Pelicans trade him to the grizzlies the grizzlies now have the two Thousand Fifteen Duke Blue Devils who won national national championship that was completely erroneous. Dion waiters now too well so they they would have justice. Winslow ties Jones Grayson Allen and Jalil okafor or for the Tim Rules Trade for Jalil Okafor and they would then have the first three picks in the two thousand fifteen NBA draft. which I don't things he's ever happened and even if they stink you could say well? We had picked one two and three. How're we bat? Yeah I mean that would be. Darren reveal perfect wet dream right. They'd have those three guys on the the same team I hope that he goes Memphis. That'd be great. That'd be even better because I always say like if you if you look at a lot of the great College basketball teams like that too. Could they beat the shittiest. NBA team. Let him get a little bit older and see now would actually get to see And Agile and agile rat. WHO's fucking awesome with the with the Karl Anthony towns and and wiggins think sorry? I'm sick right now. Our poll podcast is dealing with fighting trying not to get sick. I think. Think Corona virus right now but wiggins guy that he I will always think that he could be good on whatever the team that he's on. Yeah these like Trent Richardson duties. Twenty four like. He's he's young. Osman College Twenty Four. Just keep waiting for him to get in the right. Says take screen shots of him absolutely fucking everything up on the court Scott getting the right sixth right system. That's that's all we need Jew. He's twenty four just keeps saying that he's twenty three. He's he's the BOP A of basketball right news twenty four. It's so so so young. I'll put one one and twitter's your whole real quick because bombs which was dominating the trade deadline Shams got put off to the side a little bit. I feel like I hate it when twitter does the chronological thing during times. Like this in a bomb. That's like five minutes old pops up and I get mad at twitter. Mike Fuck you. I already read this four minutes ago. This is old news right right. No it definitely fucks you up whenever you pop on there like what's going on here this is. Why do they do that? Twitter just they just get bored and they just just try to figure out ways to to keep themselves on board by making things shitty and then and then try to fix the shitty. Yeah that's inside Jack. From twitter's own brain rights during elections. It's actually awesome. Because they'll like old tweets that will predict a state going one way will pop up and it'll be completely wrong twelve hours late right. So what other news we have. We Have Ben Simmons and Joel embiid officially do hate each other so there was a report that Off The court. They do hate each other. Which I think we kinda all SUMED when he called? Benjamin said the team is soft. Oft- I don't know what the sixers are going to do. that seems I- Horford Locker Room Cancer. This now feels like the process. They gotta start it all over again train both and get a bunch of pex get all of them out of their album. I mean he was a part of the Celtics last year. They were a locker room. Zanu Surrey nerd locker room disaster. What's the common denominator the most? Yeah the last one would suspect to be a locker room cancer out. Who are you could also say that? It's like teams the year after j but leaves yet to they implode because they miss him so very deeply. Maybe although the Tim unrolls kind of imploded with Jay but a little bit but more of the year after the Bulls are always employment with more the year after seeing red they. Everyone just hates being in Chicago. It's the worst thanks Lou. Laurie wants not to be there anymore. Zach Levine doesn't WANNA be there Jim Boylan is a shoutout. Ricky O'Donnell had the great phrase. Jim Boylan is a meat. Shield old for John Paxson. That's all he is a coach literally just a meat. sheely stands in front of the Front office serving say idiot idiot sitting up there at least bulls fans can hold onto. Those Anthony Davis comments until the summer shrew true. Absolutely the whole thing your best hope. Is that every team every player that comes into town during during all star weekend just get shitty and employed by being in Chicago. Yeah there we go. Maybe it's just a joke but either way than we had Andre Drummond to the cavs which poor Tristan Thompson Kevin Love. They were like we really want to be traded from the cavs and the cavs did the opposite and traded for drumming. And we're like we're going to. We're going to get over this flush the baby the cavs all in is this. Is this the window for the Cleveland. Cavaliers nothing better than the team. That just like we're all in for the seat I mean the the T.. Wolves are probably going to be better than now but because they've lost so much they're going to be going all in for an eight. I mean it would be great if the cavs made it to the playoffs and won a couple of series just like got a sheer dumb luck because then you could get the. It's the theory that we came up with for when Bryce Harper left Nashville's a team that gets better after their star player leaves and goes elsewhere that we invented holy totally invent Cleveland. Right now hated sells you anything. No nothing how you feel about that. All right okay. All right and there's the Celtics. Let's talk from Hank. These deals all right. He doesn't they stayed put no no. He didn't know he did not say he doesn't want them. Israel's all right I didn't want them to trade Smart or hayward so I was I'm not I'm happy that they didn't feel all right. All right. What do you want you want action? You want action on the deadline. Day like you WanNa go towards and see that your team did something but you run the risk of it being like what the fuck. What did you guys do right? So that's all right. Yeah sorry I think war is the worst thing to happen to. NBA Front offices as if he's not tweeting about your team team all your fans like what the fuck. We're not trying to win. That's like the barometer this league on your like the Bulls we Zach. Levine is so important to this French that's right. Can't trade him for anything. Less time tweeted about the bulls. I mean ninety percent of his tweets by Chicago or like weird contract delineations harassed and this this league under under jumping just tweeted. If there's one thing I learned about the NBA there's no friends or loyalty while giving my heart and soul of the Pistons into how this happened with no heads up makes me realize even more that this is just a business business He gave his heart and soul of the Pistons and when he says that he means he gave twenty twenty intending losing effort I mean what what is he. Does Andre Drummond that. He's he's a player in the league. The Drummond Jump Man Song that they made for him when he was turning it into all star drum jumps out sick free. Blake now by the way we're in full free blake mode because it clearly the Boston get them out anywhere back to la officially out for the entire year. He's been out. He's been outfitted entire. He officially like even for the tyrod of the playoffs yet. Yeah I don't think they're gonNA make the playoffs but yeah I know I know Detroit's not I'm I just think he's some because sometimes when you get out of Detroit you feel a lot better hypothetic. Yeah I mean how about drumming going from Detroit. DETROIT CLEVELAND. Yeah that's a nice up. Lateral upgrade lateral move. That's a little farther south lateral move. I gotTa Casino Still. There's a really nice b-dubs they're both Detroit. and Cleveland. I sit here and be like I could sell myself on either. Like you know what they're caught on the up and up. Is there a city in America that you would not live in for twenty five million dollars a year New York New York City. Yeah probably honestly the on on charter. Oh Yeah I would absolutely live Oxford for twenty five. I live anywhere between you. Be King the the hometown of the corona virus. What's it called Yuan? Yeah it's not the United States but well. Yeah but you sit off. I live in Alaska to Juneau off. Heads if it's this summer winter the thing about Alaska's it's filled with people that are getting away from their problems. It's filled with people who are laying low so you never know really who to trust right right All right so that. Is this league any any other trade deadline situations that we need to discuss. I Dunno it's I'm in full college basketball mode. I gotTA admit I've been just watching nonstop college basketball but NBA about to start picking up right right. Right is the the all-star game comes. It feels like okay now. We're going. Yeah football's over. We're ready to go ready. Get into it Before we do Baker Mayfield to our fire fest on this side and then we'll do segments on the other son Baker. Mayfield Hank your fire fest. My Fire Fest. I have a couple I one was was our actual. We hosted a fire fest Last Friday Yep careful are rough and right now is a great time. It wasn't free. No one had to pay. That's true. What was Jerusalem Slogan it was like it's not fraud it was just like we intentionally misled. Yeah we actually didn't do any of that the weather now whether it was fire fest because of the weather but the there was like a tornado. Hurricane combination explosion at our venue and so far Marshall came. Shut it down. Everyone had to try and leave during a hurricane so no one could say the venue. It was pouring rain tornado going outside and we'll have to try and leave so that was a fire festival itself just trying to get you bring it home. My other one is that I hurt my back bench pressing. Yes the not even actually bench pressing. That's what I've been telling people if I really heard it playing ping pong so so much so much worse till like tell someone what about Mukhi. mookie that's my brothers fire fest. He lives in San Diego and so he was like. We predicted to this or upset. He told me that he's more upset. That now he's going to have to explain to people for years and years and years that he's not an dodgers fan. He named his dog Mukhi when he he was on the Red Sox which is actually doubly bad. Because it's a puppy right So mookie signs in extension that puppy everyone will look and be like. Oh you're puppies hobbies only only a year old and you mustn't name to Mookie the minute they traded for him and if he signs a long extension a lot of dogs in La area. Oh yeah who. He is a Greek name. Who Raking wikileak read great? We'll get a dog is it. So that's like a lab. Just tell them to change aimed snoopy I. It's the same consonants. It's the dog won't know I send that suggestion. He said I don't think he could pull off snoopy. Oh Wow doesn't have a lot of faith zone dog Why changes name to Brady? You'll never leave not about oil to Lsu. Honestly deal. Don't do that. Do you have any thoughts on the mookie Betts Street. I mean it's it makes no sense to me honestly like the Red Sox seems like what they did what they got for. It is at best a monkey bat. It's kind of like the raiders trade. Ah when they tried to Khalil Matt treating assets that they hope will eventually turn into a player the caliber of Mucci Bets Right Event Extremely Lucky mookie Betts Chug is. That probably can't even bowl or they'll try to sign someone when it's all when they like you'll sign someone like bats but no one is as good as Mickey bats except for trout. So it's like what what are you doing. Has the core of a team ever imploded as quickly as as those are the marlins. Yeah but that was intentionally. That was more of a fire is really just went for it and just fuck it were done and now the dodgers I mean how many all INS can the dodgers the dodgers can break the record for the most wins this decade. This is like you're on all you gotTa win one day no it just. This is so pathetic who knew the suckle got cheated. Did of course but I'm just saying they every year they're like dodgers are all in looked. Just make a big trade dodge role in you. The succsssful right Clayton. This sucks for Clayton. Kershaw whoa no actually. It's great for no because now it's like if he chokes again. This is like is the Cherry ontong they treated for bigger choker and David Price. He's got to run. He got over that Hill Clayton. Can I mean the chances are David price will probably choke before. They're probably they're going to be choking each other right. We some real kinky kinky shifts. So that was mookie Betts. Okay fifty five my fire fest. The week is that the MLS had a bunch of celebrities he's announcing their New Jersey's the New Jersey's and you know who they got to do. The Dallas team who dude perfect await. There were missing one of them. They're missing cody. Oh no code troubling. I Dunno trouble in paradise. That's not a fire fest. No I no. I don't I don't WanNa see those guys break-up wake up anymore what what because we've established ourselves as you get you get verified and now you're ruined for dude perfect no trust. Trust me I don't like dude perfect but I want them to be broken up at at are doing well it is are doing are we. We can take credit for. Yeah we we talk about okay. Cody wasn't wasn't there. Because he's pissed off at the twins and the guy with the beard forgetting too much camera Thomason in fifty years when one of them passes away and I'm saying live a long life not saying anything thing else not saying anything else. I'll take credit when they die. Yeah you'll you'll have murdered them. No years I said that's a long light it was so funny full life grandkids everything. Everything was so funny to watch them. Do the catwalk with uniforms on. Because the guy with the beard is clearly their leader and they don't ease jerk. That's a group that doesn't really need a leader whatsoever. No and they get to the end of the catwalk and they do this little. Turn this little cross-legged turn and the beard guy goes. One two three directs. Everybody he even takes control troll on the runway so happy to see that you should check it out pretty sweet video so I'll change that thoughts and prayers to dude perfect My my firefly's I got two one is Stephen. A Smith is trying to get Patrick. Mahomes plan the celebrity all star Game NBA All star weekend in Chicago. So he'll probably win the MVP and everyone may joke about that. I don't think so because there was that video of him playing after the season last year and then it was like they had to shut. I think the chiefs like said like you're not allowed to play but if Patrick mahomes plays in a celebrity all star game in Chicago he will win. MVP In everyone make a joke but but if he tweaked his hamstring or something like that then you won the draft did you see him Chug and beers. He was having a good time he was awesome. I mean he looks genuinely like he was having the best time of his life and I know that sounds like no DA. Everyone would but you can tell some people were there and they're like I just want to the club and then some people are there like I. I actually WANNA enjoy this with the fan. Oh he was soaking in. That's that's actually. The reason I think that Aaron Rodgers doesn't want to win the Super Bowl is because he'd have to chug beard furniture smile on of large crowds. Yeah that's not his thing and smile got any Scotch My other firefighters. Everyone sick and I'm yet to be sick but I'm basically I actually think trying to not not get sick is worse than being sick because it's the inevitable doom. Yeah I've just been taking NYQUIL and I'm not sick but I'm like I have to do something and I know however the timeline works. I'll get sick at the end and ever will be healthy and we'll be mad at you like what the hell like. We've been good for a week so I'm the good news is I'm already starting to feel better. Okay so I sound awful but I'm starting to feel a little bit better. I start to get sick. Yesterday went home. He just puked blood on himself up. I four hundred hours. I'm fine. I'm totally fine. Here's the good news about this. Whatever I'm dealing with it stayed above the equator because Bubbas Abbas said that he was not here? I've got zero bud issues all of a sudden. He's got some all types of shocked. I would say that my but is is in better shape than is like after a nice big cheese tray. Yeah it's like after like a cheese tray washed down like apple juice and perfect prunes good to go All right we got Baker Mayfield on the show so we figure out where we're going to go with the Baker Mayfield Fan club before we do that. Valentine's tip number one not all rose bouquets or created equal. So if you're looking for roses that are guaranteed to impress head to my friends at one. Eight hundred flowers DOT COM one. Eight hundred flowers has some of the freshest top-quality roses for prices. You won't believe we've take care of all. 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You're on the list all this stuff off or should we fall back for a minute. Wait for next year to start and then pounds I think you continue what we talked about. You fight fight back up when I can't you know right now. Yup I'm GonNa let die down a little bit. I'm let you guys be on the front line for me. Okay and then a Susan as soon as the season starts I'll be back when I told Colin Coward that he can suck my Dick from the back. You were okay with that for me to say well do you want me to. Do you want me to be that aggressive because I can even go one. Stop for right. It's like the shock on my bowl. Yeah Yeah right right back from underneath. You don't have to you have the reply to that because we'll just just you know we got. I get it right so in all seriousness. Obviously this year didn't go very well. overall we were with you. Training Camp You dear finishes. Are you like right back in the gym right back in. Let's get this figured out or did you take a little time to chill out and be like all right that sucked. I've taken a little time away Definitely kind of got my mind back together a little bit got the body feeling feeling as good as it probably could right now now about to hit run. Okay Okay Yeah I. I noticed that you did take some time off because I saw a picture of you know it was you you Alex Ogle Tree Saquon. I forget who else actually have the picture right here. Yup because it's such your screensaver. Such a good one. Yeah Oh and and it's you guys in the Bahamas together now in this picture everyone is in great shape and then there's you in shape. I'm in right there. Look at your vacation. That is dad. Bod`ed shape it's that's bloating from travel airplane actually is true. Yes your your body bloats. We there was the first day okay. That was right off the bat. Laugh out loud picture because these guys have like nine packs look like Yeah No. You don't need to look good. That's not how that's what those are popcorn muscles. Let's write out heroes. Yeah we're about results. Exactly right some of them have results but yeah yeah yeah. That's exactly right. Whatever that'd be forget that you're hitting the reset button? Some time off getting mentally Salih refreshed at the end of the season. I got imagine like it was a tough year. You know like you probably didn't really enjoy the last couple of months of the season absolutely not. Yeah yeah that was the first time I'd say I really wasn't having fun playing football right so for me. It's getting back to square one of I love the game of football. I'm GonNa make it fun and that's how I play my best so with an edge but having you know a clear head at the same time and when you hit the reset button I mean credits you you're not like you're out out and about like I saw the conor McGregor fight like myles. Garrett was there an Eugene go yeah that's great so a lot of people there. It looked like it would have been fun breaking news. I it was first pick overall myles Garrett was there yeah and there was a guy next to him with a weird hat but yeah that was behind did you did. Did you get your phone. Get blown up when that happened. Yeah that was I mean Johnson. Ex Omar's yeah. That's a nice guy. Yeah Yeah and then they caught her ask you take your hat off off because blocking the view No Okay Yeah. He's probably intimidate. You appreciate it. Yeah it was a good hat. It was like almost like a Charlie Whitehurst type of thing but it wasn't big enough. That's the problem. That's why you didn't get noticed on the camera. He wasn't big enough to ferrall hat. Daddy war to the grammys or whatever I mean really. That's why I were trying to get noticed. Just trying to make that step back into reality of and you did a good move by being with myles Garrett being like hey we still got each other's back because I know that you got unnecessary Surrey's Shit for after that whole incident. You did the interview right after. I thought everything you said was completely correct. It was like that was crazy. Thing can happen when you get back in the locker room Rome was like Myles Garrett just sitting there like whoops yeah kind of I mean he was He's he's quiet regardless he's he's always sticks to himself and so to see him and you know he's he can't really express his sorrow for that but you could tell right and so it was just about. The whole locker room was kind of in a frenzy at that point and so I mean regardless I had myles back no matter what but in the game of football. It's everybody knows that can happen right. He knows that. And that's why you address it. And he's he's he's moved on and I've talked to him since and he's he's in a good place right now so he's ready to come back. It was crazy that you got any hate that I think that was just the blinded Baker. Mayfield's takes you you basically like yeah. You can't hit the opponent in the head with your helmet bakers dice. I guess it isn't in book that you can't do that might be. They had the foresight to do. That is by. Don't take your home at all. Don't take your opponents home it off and hit him. I think if it's your own helmet it's better the fact that it was. His helmet was almost like you have made it a little bit more. Disrespect right. Chris you for not going on the field you wouldn't have been suspended ending the NBA smart. How close was it on the sideline because when all that goes down it's like it's a full on brawl at that point? Are there people that are trying to run on the field like how close to that become. I'm to being like trying to run on the field because it was also like less than ten seconds left in the game so the clock I think was almost done. I think they let it run but I should have been. I think it was fourth down. Yes we're supposed to go out there and take a knee right after. But they were like screw that everybody off the field right and we we were about to record word and the only reason we didn't start recording was that I'm a degenerate loser and I was like I have the second half line so we got to see how this ends and then it happened and we're like well good thing. We didn't record because that changes everything a little bit. It was a wild moment while moment. Got a question about Odell for you Has He ever handed out. Cash the locker room after you guys have a big win. We had a guy named Damon. She he jeopardy and the preseason he was he was kind of a hero. Yeah Guy that slept outside the gym the kick returner. Yes yeah so. He returned to kick in. He got a nice to grant in his pocket. I love that Odell does. That's such a great guy. That is such a great move when you saw him doing that where you're like. Oh No oh no no which one do after the LSU game It was to you know the seniors legal correct although we don't know if it was fake or not yet right Joe monopoly money. Yes we got in the headlines with Odell because we interview joe the day after like at seven. AM and might muddy the water so that was our full house bar. Big Time All right so I. This is a weird question but I've always wondered this. So January comes along. It's playoff football. was there ever a moment where you contacted your pr people your agent and like hey can we stop running the progressive adds no never okay. There you go the AFC playoffs like Baker. Still living in the in the stadium. Am and then it's like you know it's AFC championship. Game Up Baker still living there so living there still live there. Yeah yeah the commercials at all. I feel like there should be commercial commercial insurance though like you know you should be able to say. Let's delay this if you're in the news for like not so great reason to the season's going tough you should be able to say. Hey can we only replay these commercials after wins. No we would have played more if we would one. There's more there's more keeping them in the Po- deleted always keep one in the holster Easter. I like that so now that swagger junior is the new dog who I think is undefeated at home. You've got some more ads ready to go for like writing that good luck. Way that we're coming out fully loaded do you notice a difference between swagger junior and swagger senior just a little more pep in his step but that comes with a younger age. Yeah right he's in the new age. which is the new Brown's the representative like that front button Have you been able to talk to Kevin Stefanski. I have few times haven't met him in person yet but he's been pretty busy putting together the staff so excited where it's headed General impression of him. I think he's too attractive to be a good head coach. But he's he's got that JAL line I don't know what do you think I don't think the Jawline has anything to do with it okay. He's very well put together You know he's a guy that wants you talk to them Um you realize. He's extremely sharp he. There's a reason that you know. He went through the interview process for the Browns last year. And then he he just got the job Because I think you know he just handles awesome self. Well Yeah. He's bringing in fullback too. Yeah that's kind of cool. We didn't have a full back. Yeah it's nice to have one of those. Two teams will have fullbacks do the math browns from Baker Mayfield. I didn't say that you're all coach. Freddie kitchens on the giants now and you guys play the giants. You already knew that. Yeah well I mean that games at metlife in New York and there's a reason for that it's going to be the homecoming for Number Thirteen O. That's right so we got a double revenge game going on. Yeah I ready. I wouldn't say Freddy's is a double revenge against Freddie it's your revenge game against Freddie and then no Dell's against the giants and also Freddy and Freddy to Jarvis Landry cricket game. It's everyone you guys are like an m night shyamalan right now. This it's GonNa be the greatest game of all time were you. When Odell Jarvis after games would go and ask for the opposing team to come get them? It was weird. That was perfectly phrase question or anything. No I don't get caught up in the When he handed the goat hairclips to Tom Brady? Who had been in the wrong place at the wrong time off? Aw that's suck my disappointment. This is one of my favorite parts about sitting down interview. Is You laugh but you know better. Better than to laugh. into the microphones leaned back. You're smart uncle so if you're just listening to this show you might think that Baker absolutely hates us now gone on some of that. Yeah we'll put track. Every time he stopped talking. It's just a laugh track meritous. It's perfect Are You mad at me. You probably don't even know and I said this but I'm going to back this up. Oklahoma deserves a one year ban from the college football playoffs their performances differences. I'm sick of it. What are performance against Georgia? When bad yeah I know you were the last yes? Your performance against Georgia was very very good in the now. If we have another performance like that again I could get on okay. Here's what I'm really sick of every year halfway through the season Oklahoma lose a game everyone says Oklahoma sinks thanks and then they come back and you look at the right time right and then they start playing defense. Everyone's like Oklahoma's defense. Not that bad not not true. They are still bad. The offense never been the problem. You think it's fair we haven't shown up at the right times okay all right so you take accountability got ability. That rose bowl game was fantastic. All Time game we We played Clemson that first year in the playoffs. They're pretty good too. Yeah they knocked both running backs Out and so then pass him so they were you guys are a victim of bad scheduling timing being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Yes yeah yeah. I've had a few of those in my life. Seems to follow me like just being in the big twelve. I think blaming yeah right yeah blamable home wrong place wrong time. I'm blaming the the NC double A.. For Seating Oklahoma against the juggernauts. Every time it's almost like they have an ax to grind against Oklahoma right. Yeah right it's been pulling the victim card out right now. Listen listen if if you are a supporter of Big Time College football team you have to have somebody to lash out because there's a conspiracy every team so now it's like directly you guys against the NC AA and he used to be Georgia. You actually took that mantle from Georgia now. Yeah we're under dog mentality. So yeah we'll take it now. I know let's say you're going on. Get up tomorrow morning tomorrow morning. Yeah a lot of people really like me. Yeah so especially Rex Ryan on get up tomorrow tomorrow. How do you think he's GonNa Wear Orange Brown? He probably will to try to defuse the situation but don't fall for that. Don't fall for it. Can I give you like some things that you can. News would love to hear your a quick guys. I'm sure that you've you're going to be prepared going into it. If he starts talking about your season say I'd say that you really put your foot in your mouth but you'd probably enjoy that. Got Him boom roasted. I don't think come back from that. No if you say that it's over you can just walk off and one mix tape shows over. That's a good one more. Not that was my best best material. You're not even the best coach in your family. Yeah Rob is a better a better looking guy. He's got better hair. Yeah absolutely the better. You can also do the casual. Hey Rex. It looks like you lost weight knowing he didn't so it's like what the hell like. I'm still really fat. Yeah that's a great one. That always always hurt my feelings when people say that to me and I haven't lost a good though thank you. That hurt my feelings off. I'm dealing with a bad picture right now of my right breast that has been going around the Internet. Whatever it's you know bad timing shadows Lee everything like it's a whole lighting? Yeah and he'd get off a plane like two days ago so again. The buildings right right I have a real question Do you off season this year. Will you do maybe less media coverage coverage everything knowing how like last off season. Everyone got so. I mean that's obviously kind of out of your hands. Yeah I was about to say. I don't think it's my choice. We went six and ten so I don't think I'm going to be asked to nearly nearly as much. Yeah yeah if just being honest. That's the thing that sucks so you guys had all the hype. It's not really your fault. It's Kinda you know. There's excitement about the browns. They'll always be excited. What about the browns when you guys seem to be putting together? Yeah and then. That's really what it comes down to like if you go into the season people aren't expecting to be great. That's when you can surprise them so the browns are going to stick next year. I don't WanNa say that because bigger looks like he's ready to kill me. No no no no. This is how we do it. I'M GONNA say is behind your back. You guys might not win a game bold strategy. He's getting ready. I don't mind talking trash about the browns to amphicar up but I'm not going to say a word of shit about swagger junior that's fair yeah that's fair truly fair so you win every home game. You'll go eight next year. He came out but no road here. Not a single row game not the one in metlife the revenge de give him nine seventy people revenge or whatever it is. Are you gonNA stare down Freddie. I remember a couple years ago when he went to the bengals. And you guys weren't happy about him or you're going to like give them any looks. Or what's the handshake going to be like. Nah Freddie and are good okay yeah not like a huge situation now. It's a little different. Yeah I always wondered about that clip. That came out a couple of years ago. I guess your rookie year when Freddie was talking on the sidelines and he walked away. And you go man. That guy's an idiot and everyone was like. Oh that's so funny. They get along they can rib each other a little bit. I thought that you actually did. Maybe think that Freddie had idiotic tendency no he. He's not like him still turn. We are on good terms became close to this family so it was. You know kind of tough for me to deal with. Yeah Yeah I mean we just some of the things. We put together behind the scenes. It just didn't work out so we didn't have a chance to go heart but it's the greatest comeback ever the next year. I can't wait for you to go crazy next year and have weren't GonNa win a game. No now that was this. Is US Talking Lions Liars. I can't wait for you to go crazy next year and we're going to dunk on everyone like if I could dunk I would do we will dunk on everyone. The haters are. I'M GONNA be sick and we're GONNA make them sick by your play we physically. We're not GONNA do anything but you will. And then we will reap all the benefits uh-huh. Yeah that's how this works relationships street right. Get all the credit. That's why you guys are GonNa be on the front line where yeah then in the season comes around xactly. Yes yeah exactly Do you think that is kind of look at me move It's the swaggie shirt. I like it but it's just rip a couple of Bandanas apartment golf. Yeah stitch together. It's nice how many different colors do you have on their read. Every part of the shirt is a shirt. That's a Miami shirt. Put it that way. You cannot wear that. Sure in Cleveland. no no Florida. That thing comes on absolutely I actually. My last question is going to be about that necklace. It's the seekie question. Put in Seeking Zeki get Promo Ten dollars off if you WANNA go to a browns game next year. Ten dollars off to knows they're going to be expensive tickets because you don't win so many games put in Promo Code. Take that chain How much is that chain worth? Can we have it. How much do you want? Forecast Combined Quest UVS. Vive I just learned what V. One literally two hours ago. Yes keep it right here in case I forget my Jersey number. No that's a cool chain. I liked that AH chain. That's cool move. I wish I had Jersey number that I could wear chain lake done. How much art? I didn't get it. Oh your wife got it for you. That's that's a great presence. Okay okay. How much was it enough enough enough enough? I have one real question in for you. So you've switched coordinators swift. You've had like different playbook different terminology I would imagine yes some different stuff going on for us that's like we switched from wordpress to who different blogging platform over the summer and I just refused to change over. Still Tick Tock yes. I'm still using the old. I'm still on wordpress. Are you going going to like. Do you have any resistance that you can't just use the same play calls. No I I'm pretty much at this point. Just asking for at least one solid year of the same playbook yes that'd be nice. Some sort of consistency for me would be good. Does that have a big impact in your off season because you have to spend so much time not working on like the physical stuff but just like learning new words judge. Yeah there's definitely the learning curve for it and you know for everybody else in the offense as well you know because we're not nobody's GonNa have the same things going on so it's new for everybody but it definitely airfleet takes time away from you know building on what you have okay We're still on team Baker. I think we might might be just us in your family really. That's okay that's fine. We're team Baker through somewhere. The people out there who are going at you have their day. Also thank you for beating the Ravens Week Three. It was their last loss to the most recent right Kazakh. Made me think they're frauds and then I got a lot of Shit for saying they're frauds then they lost in the the playoffs and look who was on the right side of history. That's right so you did that you did that. You made me look good but yet this is going to be a great year. I'm excited we're Gone Dongguan. Everyone I can't wait. I have a list checking it twice on Colin clown her Yup. That's his new name now. It just came up with that. Feel free to use You might be the first person to ever say that ever say that countered clown Ooh God up got him All Right Baker. Thank you so much appreciate appreciate it. Pests luck next year. Hopefully we talk to you beforehand. But you are. It's coming back. I WANNA look Cameron. It's coming home. Guys fucked DOC. We're GONNA fuck you up on this. I'm good luck on. Look out for that line the foot in the mouth one. That's going to be a homerun game time out. Probably like two weeks okay. So disregard if turtles up and just let screening dominate him like the Alpha Male L.. He is when you gotTa Watch out for his Green. He's a sneaky Alpha. I can't wait to see what Marcus Spears does. Oh there we go big day coming tomorrow. Yeah all right we got your back. 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Dot Com enter Promo Code take for twenty five percent off your first order drink. Hydrogen Dot Com Promo Code. Take Okay let's get some segments before do that. Though we have the conclusion collusion to the Baker Mayfield story t telling him he should completely Duncan Rex. Ryan on get up. I thought it was a pretty sneaky way to kind of get in there and you know seemed like he was apologizing but still Baker Baker so he went on get up apologies to Greenie that this happened under your watch but we gotta stick up for a Guy Baker Ker so here it is. What did you learn about the dynamics of the NFL that you couldn't translate that kind of Imo from in college? It's a home experience. I mean this is be honest. I put my foot in my mouth. A Lot. This past this year And I'm going to internalize that and I think that's the way I need to handle it. I mean recipes Kobe. That's the way he did it. He motivated himself. He didn't talk a lot. He talked to his teammates. Drove them the better people better men and so that's the way I need to handle it. Respond to things that don't matter the things that don't help us win. Put My mouth law this first year. Love it what do you think he knew right away. No Baker didn't end. What was funny was after that interview? Schefter and a lot of other other. NFL reporters were like quoting that interview. Including my Internet data Uncle Mike florio saying is this a sign that Baker Mayfield has matured love and The Cleveland Media was like I love it Baker Sane and doing all the right things bakers gonNA Baker Baker Baker. Be Big you don't you. Don't tell a cage bird not to sink correct all right. Let's do some segments first. We have a way to stay relevant handball. So handballs mad at us. I can't believe we're here. I can't believe this was when we had Jay Cutler on I thought maybe someone in Chicago media would get mad or maybe Mike Martz or like any number of things turns out the only fall from Jay Cutler being on the show was the world. Handball is very upset that he would imply he could be a gold medal. handballers Tulsa handballers handball. Oh handball list right. This is the Olympics for handball is not actually the Olympics. It's responding to everybody that says that USA could dominate in the Olympics. If we put our other athletes in Hanoi that is that is their time to shine every four years. And they're not. They're not mad just disappointed with Jay for saying that but I I still think it's Kinda true I mean it's one hundred percent true. I no offense to hand bonus. I'm sure you're very nice people but you play a sport that if if we decided to stop playing all the other sports there would be a lot of guys better than what you're doing right. I'm sorry I apologize for absolutely nothing. I'll put it this way if I'll put it this way if we were to take our best. NFL players and put them in rugby uniforms. Right and Lamar Jackson was a fly half and and we had guys like Hello de Nada. Dhamma can sue and all these big motherfuckers out there people over. We would be much much better at rugby if they were to grow up playing the sport right and it's not like we joke about the soccer thing I think. Soccer is a little different. I don't think that we could just be like hey. Our best players in the in basketball could go play soccer at a high level. That's clearly that's A. That's a world class sport. A high level sport handball handballs photo class. It's recess play recess. Listen David kind of are a little bit Olympics there is some strategy you can do as a human is get a gold medal on the Olympics is in if you play Maybe and if you play handball then you can do that. Listen I've I've looked up the rules of handball. Football not an Olympics. It's not easy. I'm sure it would take at least three months for our guys to get acclimated to it but you just put them in a training camp actually really easy. It looks Super Easy Willis. Okay okay two and a half months of training and again. I'm not saying that I would be a gold medal. handballers I'd be we. We are pro. We are saying that we'd be on the team. Jay Cutler was like there's only thirty two. NFL starting quarterbacks his his arm is better than any handballs arm is crazy. Let's let's put together a just using recurring guests from part of my take a hypothetical starting. How many players play at six because eight? It seems like a lot of names right now. They're playing a game that you invent to like kill time at your office okay. Part part of it like Paul. Yeah you're like hey look at this little soccer ball that I picked up when I went through an MLS game for free you can almost do just using guests from birthday week. This is ridiculous to due finer. Danny woodhead dude. This is hand bomb. Sorry it looks like a really really fun sport. I will say that like give. We had the ability lead to play handball. If there's a handball court I it looks like a very very fun sport to play but other than that. Nah Nah like you could have handball. List play in the. NFL could have. Handball is played in in major league. Baseball come on this is crazy okay. Let's compile that team though just it. Just based WHO Cutter Yeah Jay Cutler. Kyle Wong Kau Long Phil Hughes Probably Phil Hughes Gassner. You're seeing Sam. Dekker goal I mean he would would stop everything. Both Blake's we have both Blake's maybe even carry. UCF The coach perfect. We'll just be on. The bench will be team. Morale Samuel Jackson. The coach would be pretty good too I'm trying to think who else we could have on that. I don't know if he would be able as a coach now. Probably not. You're right like again. Heli jump a little bit though. He's like not only might not be the only reason I said Delis because he probably grew up playing some handball right. He probably I played basketball. Handball didn't work out all. QB's was jared. Blake Mahomes cutty. They're bigger than everyone. I'm watching play handball all right. Oh put Danny woodhead on their handball. Let's go to another spilling football. Football could actually be Olympia. HAMBLE players Let's talk some XFL daily preview XFL preview Okay so I don't know what the teams are. I'm looking right now. Okay do you WANNA do too well so I got the dragons I've got. Here's here's what I'll tell you. Got The team over under so you wanted to team over under for the year. Sure or do you want to do a weekend preview things are there yeah. How many teams are there there? There are one two three four five six seven eight teams too many too many. That's already two teams. Give me fourteen for all right. So we're going to have random games names that I can give a over on Tampa Bay vipers there so you take the over seven and a half like them. I like their local. I'm looking at right now. You know. who their coaches? Their logo looks like a vagina China. You know their coaches who trust mark all right I think the under yeah exactly China thing I don't know whether coming up with these seven point. Five over. Dallas renegades games of their their ten games so they're anticipating that Marc trestman going to go to an eight hundred record. Yeah Marchesi you know what. I'll take the the over on the vipers. I want Marc Trestman do well. I'm rooting Marc. Trestman is good in leagues. That don't really matter yet right. Oh you put it yet in there because it go takeover got it got it. Yeah I'll take the over Marc trestman. I'm rooting okay. I want are you really. Yes no I am a dagger twist in your heart if he was the best. XFL coach of all time because Mark Trestman is like one of those blips on the radar. Where you just have to have enough time go by where like you know what it wasn't you? It was us like the pair. Suck D'Amato this matter who's their quarterback Aaron Murray so I think that's where the seven point five. They're like oh he was good. Yeah Jordan one point Next team will go to Dallas renegades. Leads they're over under a six. WHO's a quarterback Their quarterback is Landry Jones if healthy but he had some sort of issue. I think six so it might not be Landry Jones. I'll take the over either coaches Bob stoops which out six you either. I'm taking the over for the renegades as well if it's not Landry Jones it would be either. Pj Nelson or Eric Dungy quarterback. So I don't know those real people Philip Nelson. I think I might. I just invented the vacuum. PJ is a better quarterback than than Phil knows. Okay saw the over there. We'll take the over there. Houston roughnecks six six there. There are coaches Jim Jones Ball. Excuse me obviously like Hawaii. Show Jones in there if he wears salut les. Then I've taken the over. Yes I'M GONNA take the over regardless because alson went from Minnesota to Rucker's to East Carolina. Collect them Aw. What a journey? What did you Minnesota Rutgers? Ecu Yes what a journey verse at. Yeah okay okay. What's what's the last one? I was going to give the last team. Total as defenders instead of them. We'll go with The Seattle dragons like them or culturally. Yeah over Coltrane say no more okay. So they're over under nine hundred only three and a half. Oh so we're taking this act. ACT DISRESPECTING GYMS Zoran regimes orange so yeah this weekend has actually a revenge game for Jim's coming back to DC how are they like I would imagine the XFL like the flying on unlike South West. Don't well yeah. Obviously if it's Seattle that's everyone but that's no. I'm saying that's a far trip. These teams are far far. Well you know this is going to be a lot of mileage up here. This is cool. They'll have their own planes right when it's The dragons it's the Seattle dragons but they're abbreviated as the sea dragons agents sea dragons which is nice little touch there. I'm taking the over on them as well okay. So that's our XFL preview we have thoughts and prayers the NFL because they're getting sued for having to erotic of a halftime show during the Super Bowl. Yeah so what's exactly going on. Does the guy that suing the NFL because he got got to Horny during the halftime show as a Christian Lordy Yeah we'll literally Lordy because it made him. Mike will made him violate his Christian beliefs so he's suing the NFL NFL. Like hundreds of millions of dollars. Mike wants mad that everyone is making fun of Lordy. Fuck it. I'm GONNA sue him. He should be honestly. He should just be suing his own penis. Because obviously he's doing this just to get attention right. I actually thinking might have case a class action lawsuit could join that was a very roddick halftime. Show listen XFL. You need to just say you need to plant stories that people are suing you because you're halftime shows are too erotic. Yes if you want viewers I listen this guy I would like to see it. Go through route court because I think he might have a case your honor the butts. There were two pots at the same time on stage doing something with their tongue and they eject and and my wife's gusting got angry. And I got an erection your honor. It was awful last before gets Faq sabermetrics so you you have this. PF t-there's Big Guinness Book of World Records Missing Drama. peak-time trump does drama on the streets. Right now Finley. The Golden Retriever set Guinness Book World Records Record for fitting six tennis balls in his mouth. That wants it for some reason. I thought Finley did like fifteen. Six is a lot of ball I know it is. How many calls have you ever had in your mouth? I've had four. Yeah you have you ever. I've had four. Yes I'm like that. Yeah but yes. He had six tennis balls south. That's a lot for golden retriever. But the bigwigs at Guinness won't recognize it because they said that it's owners didn't submit the right paperwork which is ridiculous. We can't Finley. Just do it again. I don't know I don't know the whole process for it. I think you have to get like somebody from Guinness to fly. You probably have to pay them To fly somebody into your town. This is where it gets all convoluted and it's really frankly quite out of date the Guiness Beer company is in charge of of record keeping ice of love that book though. It was like the late nineties that was basically the Internet. But the more I going through it and we'd all these weird records some more I think about the more of a racket it becomes uh-huh yeah clearly have to pay Guinness to send a representative to like hang out with the four day. Then they're like. Yeah whatever okay off dumb record yes Finley the golden retriever for is getting screwed by the red tape of it. So hashtag justice for Finley. Yeah let's get Finley the record. This is bullsh- six balls. Six Paul's I for some reason is now is like a dozen balls things a lot. A dozen wood JR killed. But I don't know that should be the bigger go home. Listen Dude perfect if if you want your next trick shot just jam. Twelve balls into cody's mouth if he's still alive we haven't seen him. But that's what I'm say it'd be good way to hypothetically this nowhere. Cody is off. Cody Cody Parkey Co.. I bet you one of them listens probably because we bash though the ginger beard. Yeah and they're like this is awesome twins ending up for the twins wins definitely text each other. And they're like hey they they got him. F- accuse sub pandemic FT in big corona if the corona virus pandemic somehow somehow turn into a Zombie apocalypse. What location would you try to reach for the best possibility of survival I would go. Adam Morrison's bunker the atom Morrison's bunker East River. What's that zombies uncle and water? No that's never been a really big Zombie Guy. ZOMBIES don't go and water is that roots Gremlins. No No. I think zombies can't swim. I don't know I'm again. I've I've never been his on. I haven't either. It's weird. zombies became like a thing that talked about right right the gibbons one in God but the movies and stuff I remember Shauna the dead like this. Maybe we'll do that for Barstool gold. Zombie Land Oh yeah by the way parceled carsoup dot com slash. PMT We should do that. We should interview someone who's just really into Samis. We're also also working on a handball expert. ooh That's huge. I feel like Zombie. Guys are are the same like Internet people as epic Bacon Guys. Yeah like ooh. I love zombies and Bacon Saracho. Yeah they they definitely brew their own beer to my identity. They got their yeah. They brew their own beer in their in their basement my Samba Hey dad cat and PF T- Kaku Satour. was that a thing cut his that I think is a UC caucus. It's a total okay caucus cost sky. I've been listening to the show for Awhile and recently gone both a mom and dad to listen to the show they love it in our full. AWOL'S WE'RE WATCHING SUPER BOWL media day video at my mom had an idea for next year. Ask all aws address up as pecan Pie. If you can get through security and listed in podcast swarm again this is like the where's Waldo Waldo who that is we should absolutely we should do a emt com birthday party no PMT Kaga an hour before media day right outside media and we'll all get dressed up. Yeah we'll have a boatload of fake credentials ready to go and then we won't even go in. Yeah we totally won't go in. You're right we're not going to go and we won't but other people will hey slim commentary in short cat was wondering if it's okay to skip a quiz class of already. Failed failed twice to go to a concert on a Tuesday night. Mr Cadmus commentary tax. You waste also show it. Was We easy as a class. It's like a five question Russian quiz or something. One of those are hard quiz so this is a class that he's failed twice. Nobody said the quiz failed twice. If it's okay to skip a quiz in the class of artificial right probably shouldn't I'm beginning to see pattern of maybe why you feel this class twice. Yeah go forego. I know you would learn earlier today from Baker Mayfield. Yeah just be you you. Guinness Book of World Records of most times failed to the same class. Go for it just cheat why. Why haven't you cheated yet? The second time you went through that class class you should have cheated. Yeah we'll this finally be the year. We can get a mount rushmore of airports. Who probably not no definitely a- sure we do we? Are we do talk about doing airport views. More of them on the rake. We were going to do anyway. Ones we talked about it. Flash mob. Airport Review New Orleans airport was excellent. I can't even remember. It's a lot better than it used to be boom reviewed I last one. What's up guys? I've been battling with the case of a sore throat and stuffy nose all week all corona Donovan Jokes all corona virus choke side. I'm trying to decide whether I should play my intermural three on three basketball game if plan do well on the legend like joins flu game. If I plan land do poorly my friends will hate me. Give me some guidance. Please don't be the asshole to get everyone else sick. But don't be the absolute team intramural championship. He's their best player doesn't say is he might have subs out their best player. Do they have subs on the same. That's that's a big question three. If you're one might be the only sub okay. So if you're three basketball The faulk intermural through and three basketball big three. I say do it. Yeah go ahead and do I say do it. Just drink a lot of gatorade beforehand. Bring that ice thing that Jordan put on the back of his nagy do it do it back. Yeah and then if you don't win just so you're not sick so wait till the end if you win be like. Hey guess what guys. I'm really really sick if you don't win just like I'm fine and then watchdog. It's also good news is you're GONNA get your opponents sick so if they beat you true you get the last laugh. Cough on 'em maybe wear a mask while playing Dow will be actually very nine games. Mind Games all right. We'll see everyone on Monday. Enjoy your weekend Football's back football is back and Lovie just scored his seven hundredth goal. There you go again. I'm predicting I'm GonNa be at the game or Saturday night. I'm GONNA seem score two more goals and now APP wrap now. He's officially better than Wayne. Gretzky perfect love egos uh-huh They also awesome Aw Uh Doc It it's pardon. My take presented by Bar Stool Sports.

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With the voice of big s your host rj bow. Aw. pre-game show America has always wanted. Views. From the Vegas Strip. EARS, are J.. RJ, live on Friday live in Las Vegas live on two hundred, twenty, five FSR stations across this great great nation why so great football's part of it baby what a day it's a distillation. Yes. Of the entire week we got an hour to jam in the Best Info. We've got sports bettors. It's going to be about the money sports fans. It'll be about knowing more than your body. We're going to deliver on both of those St. Fabric. In Studio we gotTa crossfire later you're on one side I'm on the other I think I'm favor. Yeah you think. So I think. So baby. Listen. As a handicapper I I'm lucky if I'm as good as you in a given spot maybe nfl maybe but hardly anywhere else but is a debater age so we'll see. We'll let Jones decide he'll be the judge speaking joan is he's Joe but my favorite Joe in Los Angeles Jonas knocks always good to be here are John Yes on a day in which we've got the Friday before all the week to action in the NFL we've got the Western Conference finals tipping off tonight in Orlando What is the Vegas lead here on this Friday I think he's gotta be Baker Baker touchdown maker and ironically The Battle of Ohio last night Thursday night football the kickoff to week two of the twenty season and it saw the Cleveland browns a thirty five to thirty. Win Over the Cross state rival Cincinnati Bengals. Okay. We are a betting show I, and even if you don't bat, the Info from a better perspective is very well, it's different. Let's be honest St. Fezzet. You are a professional batter you watch the game. Would did you take away from that game that was most important to you? Cleveland dominated the game particularly at the Line of Scrimmage Cleveland ran all over my bengals you cash tickets with shove and hunt they both went over at the Cleveland running backs how Cincinnati Cover Rj what miraculous performance by borough who converted get this five of five fourth downs that got the bengals in the back door a little bit of misleading final Cleveland dominated. Okay. So if you would have missed, one of those chances are they don't cover. Oh, absolutely. Oh man this is a tough businessman. Is it a tie? I mean imagine having the browns. All Right Is that a surprise because the bangles? Were what the worst or second worst team behind Jacksonville on wintel. Carolina. Through started worse. Okay. So right at the bottom and the browns were eight and a half. Yes. So browns were around Twelfth Thirteenth. Musso. That's supposed to be competitive is it feels like because the browns look so bad and week one, there's like maybe the browns or as bad as anyone except they got pro, you know all pro level guys at many positions no doubt and so in a way you saying Oh browns are better wasn't a foregone conclusion and what I'm saying is maybe that first game skewed our perspective that much. Because the browns were not just better. They were significantly better to the tune if these teams played again. The spread on this game close six and I really think that the spread should have been more like a the browns to did you have a monster best bet on the browns? No. Why not? Because I didn't know the browns are going to dominate like. What I'm saying is that I think this is. What we're GonNa talk about all the show for the entire weekend games is. The first week of this season might be the most important week when it comes to What did we learn of any week in the NFL history Because this is so unusual with covid and that's what we want houses so much. But don't overreact even though it's so important. It's probably not as important as the average batter. It out. There's just no way the browns could have been so bad. With the players they have on their team right and against a bang goals. They didn't need. Baker to be anything more than what game manager you say I mean was he any more than a game manage state game edge in his success came from play action when he did throw the ball because the bengals knew they couldn't stop the run Jonas same question to you from the Fan's perspective number one takeaway. To one of those games to where I come away from it and I feel good. If I'm both sides for different reasons if I'm Cleveland okay. You can run the ball and if you can run the ball even though your defense did not look good and his not look good all season long especially in the secondary at least you'll keep them off the field and you won't have Baker Mayfield who's going to be. Out there trying to steer the ship and he's already shown that he's not capable of that at this point in his career and if you're cincinnati although we got battered around a little bit Joe Boroughs got a little something and he's played much better than I think some people thought he would with no preseason no wraps no real off season as a rookie in this league on a rebuilding franchise. I, think they've got. Feel pretty good about it would do you see him borough what is it about him on the NFL field obviously an amazing college career where did you see last Night Jones? He's an ultra competitor. You can tell he was pissed off after the game he talked about it. It said it's the first time. He's lost consecutive games I think maybe ever in his entire football life and so when you see that you just Go back to all the stories from him at Lsu about getting in a fight in practice is first day they got a fight with somebody on the defense and that was a big talking point and his teammates just love the Guy Aj Green who's had a bunch of different quarterbacks in Cincinnati talked about how they've got a good one that there's something about this guy they really like his teammates have really rallied around him. But wouldn't you say Baker Mayfield had the same bravado And I'm not saying they're the same I'm saying, would you see different and borough than Baker because Baker Seems Brash and. Confident also more vocal from Baker I, think he chirp Chirp Chirp right away. He came in just running his mouth right away and it was for Joe, burrow he came in wanted to learn is going out there is trying to play and compete and you don't see any of the same stuff from Baker Mayfield or from Joe Borough that you did for Mayfield. I think Baker. Is a little off putting to some people and if it's off putting to people in the media, can you imagine what it's like for guys who play against him when they see the things that he's done throughout the course of his career so the look ahead line in this game, and this is a tool we use they put out a week early. So the only thing it changes its potential injuries but the game in between the one game a week one. SO CLEVELAND WAS MINUS A in this look headline before week one Cincinnati pushed. So it wasn't really on Cincinnati changing. It was Cleveland looking so bad moves game from eight to six. But Somehow Fez doesn't fire fighters. Let me ask you this. How did YOU AJ? Green Progreso I lost wait a minute. You had over how many yards over fifty five okay. Joe Borough had sixty one pass attempts the second most ever for a rookie quarterback ever in the history of this game. And you lost. He's he. He targeted AJ green thirteen times and AJ green somehow only caught three balls for twenty nine yards and I gotta tell you AJ Green looks step slow to me. I gotTa tell you. It's almost incomprehensible if someone over fifty five years of the number one receiver, how many borough throw four he threw four sixteen. Th, I mean. How thank God for RJ, bow how I would say. To know for me so easy. Yeah. They usually are easy. Let's now it seems like lay lead it does. Heads fifty only at halftime and anyone who bet shove over knew they were going to win because just. Fifteen more yards ago right? seventy six. But the bottom line was It was clear that the Bengals D. line was just getting worn down completely at that point. That's. Loser Sign Rj Bell Team winners last night straight out of Asia. So it's a winner. It's a winning naive for you. And let's be on more on my stuff at this point two phases. Hey, we like we said it's GonNa be fascinating crossfire. You Got Arezzo Anna. I've got Washington calling cowherds world premiere pick number six bottom of the hour six thirty we're going over every game in between I. Mean Waza. Okay. Couple last thoughts. Do we adjust San. Diego. Because the reality is baked or borough looked fine but the bengals got outclassed. And the chargers could barely win that game. Do we doubt is a theme in week two? We see the results a week to, and then we look back we one and reevaluate do we downgrade the chargers downgrade, the chargers offense, but we the chargers defense because they completely kept borough in check. So I think you make to adjustments. That's interesting. Good Point. There is a wise guy point. I'M GONNA make one more point. I. Yes. The La Charges Not San Diego. Yes. Thank you so much. Okay. Is that right? Last thing for me and I really believe this I haven't heard it anywhere. The people the watch, the film say Baker's problem is he gets fold where the the complex defenses are. Foreign Ham. I believe Cincinnati has the worst coaching staff in the NFL. So, if there was any staff that he might be able to play into his strength, Baker it would be against a you know bad coach bad coaching staff that won't be able to trick him that forget ballot check way an average staff or a harbaugh staff so I'm not sure who the browns play next week but. If. It's a pretty good coach host. Dallas to Washington. Okay. Well, Rivera that's interesting. He's Nice Scheme Guy. But in general, let's keep an eye on baker because when Baker is. When he's against a really a tactician I think he struggled that's a great point and even his interception last night was a bad interception where he got full threw it into coverage and there was no question it was going to get intercept and the reality is, is the bank I mean do you even debate worse? Coaching Staff Bangles? No, and they just don't have the pedigree and they haven't shown us anything really now listen they know more football than me on the field now Dow. But compared to the other thirty one disadvantage. Browns get to win Baker. Mark. Let's do this. We'll take our break when we come back I mean this is hard to believe. We're going to go through this hour every freaking game in the NFL except my name because we're going over that Monday. When we come back, that's coming up next. But first straight OUTTA VEGAS is brought to you by auto zone autozone as more ways to get. 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So the Typical Vegas minus one tan he lays one. Oh, three with me. And we're betting one hundred game. So literally, seven hundred, I risk a week, feds gets his seven. So when we run down these games, he's going to jump in with his picks for all each of the seven. So this should be exciting every week and he'll give his tip or whatever I'm thinking when he gets down like five units start to really crumble that you think maybe I know when I get up five I'm GONNA start to showboat and hot dog in Grand Slam history says yes on that. Right. Now, you can listen to this show. If you miss any of it on the podcast, just search Rj Bell Straight, Outta Vegas. We're skipping all the other stuff. It's One oh three in Vegas Jones. Yes it's hot. Let's keep it hot with the picks. That's right. Rj Let's get started, and for that, we go to Philadelphia where the rams are at the Eagles and. Right now on pregame.com phillies a one point favorite N-. Okay. So this baby's going to be my best bat. So we'll do that. We'll do that at the end of the show, and so from there, we go to the NFC south where Tampa Bay is an eight and a half point favorite look into come off that loss at New Orleans against the Carolina Panthers at home. That you just said is exactly the point which is because of the idea that everyone thinks tamp is going to win. Tampa's going to win because he got a rebound, they got a rebound. I. Wonder If this team understands how that works meaning who except for Tom Brady on this team has ever lost game and next week was favored by over touchdown in knew how to handle it. It takes a real professional team to do that I'm not sure the Tampa Bay has that not even professional. I'm not sure Tampa. Bay has that. That confidence that swaggered say we're GONNA make a statement. So my big question is actually motivation with Tampa Bay I. Think they're going to try but are they going to be super focused I'm not sure two teams that played on. Monday. Night or the broncos at the steelers in Pittsburgh right now on pregame.com seven point favorite. To be with the steelers, the question is this. With Tomlin. Awful. Win like that. In front of the world, they tend to be flat especially as a bigger favour. Denver I would love them except the injuries as I mean is injured one of the three or four injure teams when you said, von? Miller. Aj boy a very injured. So to me in general I, don't WanNA play Pittsburgh here. But I don't WANNA play Denver because of the injury. This is wonderful. I'm on the steelers minus seven. It's all about big van. I liked what I saw for man with a big Ben at quarterback. The steelers have an above average offense and an elite defense. Of course. Everyone knows that, but you just think they're underrated. Yeah I'm only laying seven at home against Denver. Really, hurting with all these injuries. I. You know I actually mentioned that I don't think you're in a good spot with Tomlin there. All right. So Rj from there we go to the Jerry Dome where the cowboys are hosting the Atlanta. Falcons Dallas a four point favorite. I'd Dallas to me the shocker here is the line. Now. Think about this homefield is to. And the line is four. So you're saying Dallas and Atlanta on a neutral field is Dallas to wait a minute. Dallas was just a three point favor mid week at La Rams, which implied they were let's think about this three five points better than the rent. So they're fi points better than the rams. But two points better than the Falcons. Now. I know they lost the game but they WANNA game. This is the overreaction. No Way. Can you play any team but Dallas here? No George kiddle that was announced a short time ago. The San Francisco Forty niners are on the road a seven point favorite at the jets. One thing here line move is this baby opened up four at four. I would love San Fran it's up to Savon. It's tough Baker Mayfield obviously not getting a lot of love and I, think rightfully so fast you like the under on this I know it's not one of your pigs because they're all sides. I. Agree with them, their jets can stop the run San Fran is too thin on D.. Or check. That San Fran is too thin at receiver. I think this is a low scoring game. Yeah I'm on the seven with the jets and you nailed at RJ without Samuel Without Kiddo who's been ruled out now Sanford is GonNa have to run the ball. The one thing that New York jets do well is stop the run number two rated d last year football outsiders. A good point. So second pick jets, he's making seven of them next up on pregame.com, the bills or a five and a half point favorite at the dolphins and our I'll say this talk about the humidity in Denver. Early in we talk about the altitude and Denver early in the season, the humidity in Miami and Jacksonville early in the season is always discussed as well to buffalo five and a half points. Favored at Miami. Ya I think it's a good point especially, the uniforms the sun first half second half. There's all kinds of talk about that to me. I trust the bills to being shaped but this is ovid. So I think Jones is making a really good point that it's a discussion worth having. Here's what strikes me is the idea of playing a team post bill belichick meaning last week Miami Played New England. Tend to attack a team perfectly, the best you can attack it, which is a blueprint for the next team in the last twenty years the week after. New England teams have covered forty eight percent of the time not seem small, but there's over three hundred games. It's a clear disadvantage to play New England the week before especially against the bills coach who is mighty mighty good to. Teams matchup in Indianapolis the colts are three point favorite hosting the Vikings Okay Phase I wanna hear you gotTa pick on this one I want to hear your take i. All right I'm on the Vikings Plus Three. This is all about in. Zimmer. We Trust Zimmer has been a great against the spread coach historically but when he's off a loss, that's his very best role seventy, six percent against the spread Minnesota is when they play off a loss, I will go to the bank with that trend. I actually liked that early in the week I'm leaning more towards indie now and here's why all the film guys say you Really Watch. Game against the jags Jackson look as good as a thought. You'd look at it the score even maybe even the stats and it was a couple of plays. Or the coach could have won that game I know well, winning games no big deal baroque thinking they got beat by the Jags that causes a big downgrade they did. I don't know if it was warranted win, which makes me think colds might be a little under rated how much you downgrade the coats off that lost one point. Oh, which was almost every team not. He did not overrated. The lions packers play to close games. This time Green Bay is a six point favorite hosting. Detroit. This is one of the ones imagine if the game had gone a different way very easily, Detroit could have won that game. In fact, I think they were up twenty three to six at one point with about four minutes left in the third quarter twenty minutes of the game they're dominating. If they win that game thirty to ten, thirty, two, thirteen, I guess babies even more likely would this line be? So you have Aaron Rodgers who looked great. Oh my God the best ever MVP. Detroit looked horrible my God they got beat by Mitch Trubisky. This is where there's overreaction I would certainly lean towards the lines. Oh. Here we go. shocker on the lions plus the six and a half, and you stole a little of my thunder in the fourth quarter lines little you're done. Let's at one sense on the game. The lions have the lead throughout the second half they were up ten and driving with six minutes to play, and somehow they lost value on the lions. He sees these are submitted beforehand. But okay the giants on a short week with a rookie head coach go on the road there at the bears and Chicago's a five and a half point favorite. You making a good point rookie head coaches last year or last week and three straight up only three against the spread. Now, we had another spread loss on Thursday night rookie head coach. So now oh, and four. I actually lean giants here and the reason being their defense actually looked pretty good night game. If you look closely big band played really well, giants didn't look bad and Chicago's the flip side of the lines lines. People are to sour on Home Chicago people are too excited about a team that had six points with only a quarter and change laughed lean giants. jags at the titans. Tennis is seven and a half point favorite on pregame.com. We've talked about the Jags we thought they might be tanking, but we found out hey, they're not tanking at minimum. But Tennessee? Fatigue team and might be the worst spot we've seen in years. Think about it one when it comes to perception, they could if they lost one more game at the end of last season, they wouldn't have made the playoffs instead they went to playoff games. Everyone says, Oh, look at them Tanna Hill give them fifty sixty, seventy million. Oh, look at the running back he so henry strong. Okay. Then go in front of the world on Monday night and win a tough. Sounds Great. But it's a leg Monday early game Sunday they played at altitude in a covert year and you've got Jacksonville that you knows GonNa, play hard and hey, if Tennessee's a little flat hey, there over touchdown favor no big deal. I like the Jags here on xtra arrest. The Houston Texans are at home hosting the Baltimore Ravens but it's Baltimore seven and a half point favorites and we're going to have that Washington Arizona's crossfire. Baby, you know I think the thing about Baltimore you need to realize is just how complex it is to stop this running game, and if you actually look at Houston Lamar Jackson not good so i. think it was it's almost like an option team in college. If you have a team that played one option team last year, how they did tells you a lot of how they're going to do this year against an option team. Well Houston there's no one like, Lamar. Jackson and Baltimore Houston's played them and did not play. Wow. Baltimore's looking for margin as much as you think, oh my gosh. What a great quarterback plus seven at home I can't bet against Baltimore that she'd Sir aid half point favorites at the chargers. We got a downgrade, the chargers off of what we saw last night Cincinnati is just not good. One of the worst teams charges barely. While they push, they barely win they push out game last week tyrod Taylor. He had a pretty good history when he plays. Multiple Games in the year. Below average now could be just want you know maybe the guys finally to old those mobile quarterback sometimes even what is Taylor like thirty I think He's in that range maybe just lost a half a step I don't know, but I have nothing to recommend. The chargers and you might say, well, Kansas City that big of a favorite blah blah blah. In Division and whatever the flat spots are going to be it's probably not going to be in division I lead lean? Kansas City and finally we go to Sunday night football fezzes feature game it's the Patriots at the seahawks Seattle a four point favorite yes. So Fez I'll let you take the first crack at this one and Well we'll double up on this Seattle is completely changed their Mo apparently, they threw the ball almost two thirds of the time in week one despite having a big league against Atlanta this Seattle team could be really dangerous with two good wide receivers if they keep doing this all year long see Fez makes a great point. What you have to know is amongst the analytics community. One of the great refrains is Oh my God you can't run on I I. And it's mathematically, the right and Seattle seemed to be the oldest school of the old school running running running. Now it seems interesting. The Seattle started throwing a bunch early downs and after the game I found this fascinating is Seattle's coach says, Hey, we're going to get back to the run P.. Carroll says we're going back to the run next week. Why would he say that I think we're GONNA see more passing from them that's a dodge. Point. Is and it's unfortunate bill belichick mother passed away. How much do you? I think it was Monday, how much you account for that? I, was on Fox sports radio, in Boston at the sports hub today, they told me when his father died his father died like mid week he didn't even tell the team it didn't somehow the press didn't know, and after the game he told the team and his father died four days. So if that's any indication, it's probably going to be a distraction but boy with anyone else you'd have to think huge distraction. We gotTA crossfire coming. Up. An crossfire coming up is actually in the desert. It is the cardinals hosting the Washington football team Arizona a seven point favorite on. pregame.com. Jones I don't WanNa. Give as any edge. So here's what I'm GONNA. Do I'm GonNa take a breath and then crossfire because listen no edges for fads be sure to catch live editions of straight. Outta Vegas Weekdays at six PM, eastern three, pm Pacific the shop near you. Better. Get Mako straight out of Vegas here on Fox sports radio you can check out the show on the iheartradio App I'm Jonas knocks. Voice of you the fan he is the Voice Vegas Rj. Bell. Okay phases music means it's a battle. You GO I. I'm on Arizona minus the seven. This is all about betting against the Washington football teams offense. Yes Washington scored twenty seven points last week but it was all turnover driven only two hundred and thirty nine yards last in the NFL in yards for Washington and they did not move the ball was all about Washington's defense getting after Carson Wentz who had four linemen out. So because of that I don't see Washington being able to put the points up to hang with Arizona I'm fading Washington Arizona Seven let me ask Joan is to stand in for the JOE's here. Okay now, what team do you feel like I was on with Colin and we're GonNa have is six next I was on with him. I said, it looks like you broke up with. Sam Darnold Four. I mean the funny thing is I haven't heard were Sam Darnold word out of him and then say, oh, but we got collar Murray now and he's calling said this week I'm one of the five people in the world watches every Arizona Game They're talking about MVP for him now. So you got a quarterback, they're talking MVP, they beat San Francisco the Super Bowl number two. And this isn't the squares play of the week. Like Housewares Ariza let me ask you this. What do you think the bat splits are on that game Seventy, five twenty five yeah. Let's pull the Mackenzie pool pregame.com. You can look at the bat splits. So you Barney Freddie fanny pack and Jonas are all in Arizona. But somehow you think that's the right side. How could that be sometimes it's hip to be square RJ I mean it's not. I mean if it's Huey. Lewis you could make the case. Right let's changed songs. But. It's not. Right now oh my God. Eighty six percent of the cash is on Arizona. In the same percentage of tickets Oh God, so you. And that's just me and that guy with the greed is shades that walks with a hop right now and I will say beyond just you're so square on this side is one more thing. We had the stat. Of the week last week, San Francisco struggles against Arizona last year, there was over five hundred offenses that play defenses. So each in each game to right offense against defense twice. Okay. So. The tent best performance of all five hundred plus Games was Arizona over San Fran and the eleventh best performance somehow was Arizona against San Fran you remember that stat right. Yes. Oh, whatever they look like they looked extra good against friend wouldn't you say? Yes. Now in just Tampa Bay doesn't know how to bounce back as a big favor. How does when's the last time Arizona has been this big of a favor I think we're going to have to go back deepen the database. Maybe, maybe this team hasn't been. Yeah. Right with Bruce Arians had some good teams. So to me, if feels like the Classic Letdown Scott The squares of the square. And somehow you're smiling like you got the right side I, don't get it Jones who do you like in this game? I like Washington get by God. Throws maybe he'll squares dog they've they've got hands down the best defensive front and football. It's not even close their terrifying and I think they're going to be in a lot of games this year and that feels like a lot of points for a team. That's been bad for a long time. That's exactly right. He touched on they're not used to being in they're celebrating their celebrating and thinking I'll we got Washington covered? You know what Washington didn't play great but the momentum it's. Or coach has cancer we just one. Let's go. So, we've got a three. What are we got? We got three hundred dollars on this game, right? Yes. All Right Jonasson me baby you and everybody else I. When we come back Collins pick number six. My best bet is coming up that's coming up next he's RJ Bell I'm Jonas Knox is the pre-game show you've always wanted it's money-making time next here on Fox. Sports radio. Fox. Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation catch all of our shows at Fox sports, radio, DOT com, and within the iheartradio APP search F. S. are to listen live I'm RJ bell. We Are Straight Outta Vegas you know Jonas. I don't know if you know today is the start of our third year on the show Oh wow. Yeah. Yeah. Was the yeah. So. I'm so excited about the quality everything we're doing and you know the team we've got we just put out a video today Lebron. We talked about it yesterday compared to Karl Malone, and you might take no way. At, Rj Vegas. It's already got over ten thousand views. They'll go and create these broad people go crazy. I Oh will get to my best bat calling cowherd. Every week gives us exclusive world premiere on his pick number six is the next game he likes after his Blazin Five. Let's listen. It's Bonus pick only for RJ bell pick. Number. Six. Minus six and a half is Washington. Any good or didn't Philadelphia. Have massive cluster injuries on the online and they just couldn't get out of their own way in the second half. Meanwhile, we know this about defensive lines in in Kinda Murray, he gives the forty niners fits. So if they can't get their clutches on or Murray? Arizona's aligns not great, but it actually outperformed expectations last year and I think it'll be better this year I'd probably swallow the six and a half here with Arizona my bonus pick not my blazing five your thoughts. On this one I disagree with a lot Besnik, who's on straight Outta Vegas with me he actually likes the cardinals and we're going to do a crossfire today on it where we battle here's why I don't like it. Oh Line for Arizona's not great. That's a May twenty fifth in the League and US. I think that Washington D. Line is GONNA be effective I. Don't think it's the. Collar Murray's elusiveness. It's the problem with San Fran. It's dramatic in this was an amazing stat. I. Think we talked about this last week the idea that. Had the tenth and Eleventh Best Offensive Performance. The entire year of all teams against San Fran last year in that scheme edge happened again but he doesn't have that necessarily against Washington and finally if you look at. Washington winning a game maybe they shouldn't have I think with not there's a losing team, the momentum, the site the sense of here we go is more important and exactly like you did right I think correctly in these other games where you took when against the team that had the big statement win. Arizona I. This is the coming out party. In fact, I mean from what I hear just listening to the show is you broke up with Sam Darnold, and now you're with Collar Maria displayed I, will say this scene growth whereas with Darnold I'm not true enough and I agree you have I think this might be you got a little shine form and I like the underdog here though there's wise guys on the other side with you. So fast now we know it's you call in eighty five percent of the people. Me and Jonas on the other side have no confidence especially because Arizona's center isn't GonNa play against that Washington D. Line ouch. The game. Play that loses competent shown RJ. We've got a best bet coming up here and it is from you the Voice Vegas, and for that, we go to Philadelphia where the eagles or a one point favorite on pregame.com hosting the LA. Rams okay I got to give credit on this when he helped me see this because my thought was Oh, line was bad it's going to be bad this week now lane Johnson's coming back. And it's like well, lane, Johnson come on he was border. You Know Oh let's say this not an elite player anymore but then I look deeper and it was I guess I said the fourth Lineman. What was his driscoll was out for a big chunk of the game because of cramps so assuming he's back assuming lane Johnson's back now you got two of the four back now what did Philly do so well, phillies Played well against Washington said, the stats were good for the phillies defense. So for me, I'm thinking okay. I. The line on this was philly favored by four not that long ago and I played it a plus one. Now it's been steamed up. Imagine that what is it now? phillies managed to even yeah. So this is a situation where I think that a chunk of the line value has gone but I still think the rams listen the rams were considered to a team that should be a home dog of three mid week against Dallas. So now, all of a sudden, they're a road favorite against Philli. Wait a minute I thought. PHILLY IN DALLAS. Where about teams so let's account for the fact that phillies a little banged up now but not near as banged up his last week. So to me. Is is another example don't overreact to what you see Everyone saw the rams good. They're saying Gimme ramps I'm saying now I'll take the other side everyone said Dallas looks bad I'm going the other way there. But the pick the official pick is Philadelphia over the rams. That's my feds. You got this one of your picks two. Yeah I joined live. We know time. Monday you've got your seventh pick and we'll talk about it. Then straight out of Vegas is brought to you by autozone autozone as more ways to get what you need when you need it with. Their free same day pickup he can play shorter online grab what you need today more than fifty seven, hundred autozone locations in store curbside visit autozone dot com today to start your job fast kittens zone autozone a preview of every single game in the nfl you can find on the podcasts were back on Monday six PM eastern time right here on FSR.

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D.J. Moore Top 5 WR  + 2020 PPR Wide Receiver Rankings

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D.J. Moore Top 5 WR + 2020 PPR Wide Receiver Rankings

"Now. You are now locked in to the dodgers podcast. WASHBOARD. o'clock, dodgers podcast. I'm your host Neal Malig. No. With me as always as JC Crocker what Josh. Man Not much man how much of course with also is the other F- F guy but not on this podcast is Adam Kahlil what's up? Adam. I like how I'm known on the podcast as my birth name. Yes we. Also known that in a real life. You know that's pretty good. That's pretty good I'm glad you're not known as the other guy at work our inland decks w weird super says good. All right. Guys listen. We got a podcast here to get through last week we did are running back ranking episode top twenty four was it this week? We're doing why receivers this I I enjoy these enjoying this little. You know change of pace for the show's obviously before we get into that. Don't only real big news happening I would say right now in will at least in the football world is college football it's you know going crazy all these different divisions postponed until next year someplace in the fall. I mean I don't know what's really happening right now. Do you guys have a I don't I'll put this out there I don't Wash College football a ton right? So it's not really my thing So I know that some people were really upset about this. Obviously, some players are really upset about this do either one of you ever really good handle on what's happening right now in college will. Have a great handle. I'm in from what I understand so far the PAC twelve announced that they're postponing till next year I'm in without trying to get political in any sort of way I think really stage that we're at right now is. The majority of colleges are more concerned with just trying to figure out if they can have students on campus this year. So athletics are kind of taking a back seat to that. Personally I don't think we're getting college football this year, we might get like the SEC. Or One conference that decides to you now, still play and I'll be I'll be really surprised if we actually get college football this year honestly man I I don't even know it screws things up so much over you know. So many of these kids what happens for the NFL draft next year are they eligible to enter this count as League Year for college all? There's so many questions that it raises so. Hopefully they figure something out but I'm far from optimistic. Yeah. I did see something where the NCAA I believe said that they would give an extension for everyone who ops out in college Doodoo Krona. Like. You said I mean for what for at least for our listeners sake with they about his how is this going to affect fantasy I and like? How many guys will not go to the draft and only would go or how many guys are gonNA forego their their you're all altogether and just like start preparing for the draft. This super weird man, and again, we could sit here and try to predict or look at the future and do all these things like no one knows what's going to happen like this is never happened before so. There's no way to say you know solid this is what's going to happen and it is what it is like we don't know Kinda gotTa Watch out all. unfolds. And just keep adjusting what makes you fantasy and? Maybe. Stay flexible congested and just see how how it all comes together. We'll say my son is in college. Now his team isn't practicing like every single day and they haven't stopped practicing so. At least this division I guess they their expectation is a play. They dacoven s one player got. Kobe. That's it. So I mean I don't know how you know all the different divisions are GonNa go but his team's practicing night normal. They haven't adjusted in any way canceled it or anything like that. So Yeah Yeah Safety. So, we'll see how. It. Art Right. I mean, that's the goal. We'll see what happens. But he said he said I ask a hundred and sixty something kids only one pop for us so. We'll see what happens man. We'll see what happens. Sixty kids in one. Area Yeah I don't know what the Hell is going on, and that's a lot of kids are eight, hundred, six, hundred, thirty something like that. I don't know what happens. I don't know I. Don't Know How college teams are set up like that but yeah won't you tested positive but these show goes on. So he's been burgers and every single week. So I don't know if that division thing is like the Sun Division or something I don't know if they plan on just rolling or what but we'll see man I think these things just keep gradually change in adjusted and alter in. Hell knows what happens man but other than that I don't think there's any other really big football news like what we're talk about here on the show already I don't think there's any other big news we need to get to. So I'm down to just jump straight into these rankings. If you guys are ready, we'll do it as I. Do this We'll start with trust issues. We have a couple here, and then we'll jump into We what we switch it up a little bit this week as last week we did a Wrangham within the rank episode and I wanted to sit up a little bit. So we're GONNA do it a little bit different challenge each other a little differently, and we have a few listener questions that we got to that I really WanNa hit up because people hit. Some, really good ones will do fowler. No foul that good stuff. Well, this John with trust issues I and the first one we have here is the browns produced two top twenty, four receivers. Do we trust trusted? We have trust issues Josh you want to start I trust and I think that it's going to happen I. Had A rough season and so did the browns and the thing about him is that he is still he's so much volume that it's hard to any Indian properly for it and it's even harder to bet against charges rendering. WHO's just? An like he's just an unstoppable like he's GonNa give, you may not be up five or top eight wider receiver. Let's see. On the on the touch way Ben. I also feel like he's going to just. Fall. Apart at all. Part of every incidentally. I, it's browns improved their often at all I think that they will have to. For. Yeah and I'm quickly looking at our rankings here at at some point, we're going to have all the rankings up on the site. People can go there and kind of what we're doing but just for this conversation sake I see both of you have Jared Lange in your top twenty four do not I I guess my answer would here would be I have trust issues with an obviously, but I'm twenty four but in in in theory I get it like I don't think it's absurd that he would be there is just not at mytalk twenty four but you do have him and have him you're twenty four. So you both you obviously, we're stronger than I do but it is like if you're trying to create a case against it like it's pretty hard I mean like I said the evidence as you showed that he belongs there Adam. What do you think it would take for him not to be there. Is it. Is it would it be his fault or everyone else's involved really funny that I've how lead into this by saying both a do have both in my top twenty four and then be asking me to hypothetically propose how that would not happen because literally right before the podcast and I were talking about this exact question how I have both ranked in the top four and how I do not believe that's going to happen. Okay. So is one of those weird situations where it's like I, kind of need to adjust my rankings but at the same time it's kind of wear rankings aren't always necessarily indicative, of projections. Really by concerns around Cleveland lie at the feet of Baker Mayfield it's really a giant question of is what we've seen in the past two years what he's going to be in the NFL I mean from a usage standpoint as far as passing valium goes I'm in he we saw his efficiency drop off last year from his rookie season is completion percentage drought interceptions way up. His touchdowns went down. So my concern is. What's going to happen with Baker? Is he going to be able to write this ship and even support to top twenty four wide receivers? That's really my concern with the offense. Honestly, I'm probably going to need to adjust some things in my rankings to be more realistic for how I truly feel 'cause. My honest gut feeling here is Baker's not going to get that much better. He's going to be a little bit better than what he was touchdowns probably going to go closer to twenty five range and he'll probably right around four thousand yards again. That to me doesn't support. Twenty four wide receivers if if do ask me who I think's more likely to finish in the top twenty, four Baker, Mayfield team where he Isn't that productive? It's going to be Jarvis Landry every time. I, think just volume alone. I. Think Landry sees a larger target share in that offense and ultimately I think Landry is probably the guy who's been more consistent. Even sense you know moving onto Cleveland so. For me. I'm proudly more in favor of Landry over Beckham if I had one of the to finish in the top one four interesting. So I mean. So right now just so people listen to know you have Becca met what's nate seventeen? Yeah Seventeen and I had landed twenty three and really what it comes down to. Is Hard historical numbers go. Back throughout his career, it's really difficult to deny and I've been drafting a ton already I've done like roughly fifty best ball brass because of that I'm really familiar with ADP. So lot of my rakings are often based around eight. So. For instance, having Beckham at wide receiver seventeen it's more indicative to me saying I'm probably not going to draft him but if he falls to the point where he is a value, that's probably where I'm gonNA. Start getting exposure in vessel because I draft. So many drafts a lot of times I don't want to. Completely avoid players I want to figure out where they become an ADP value if they are. You know what other people think they're going to be I still going to get some exposure to that. So that's oftentimes it might process how my rankings play out and how they might be a little bit different than what I actually would necessarily project based on the situation. Yeah I think it makes sense. I mean for me I think you know bakers one of those guys were like at some point we need Baker to be like a difference maker. Like that team is talented is loaded Baker's really just the guy like the has to turn it on the switch at this point like are you GonNa be the guy? Are you gonNa be the quarterback who put the team on his back and can win games and can? Do special things or are you just another out here playing quarterback mean. So that's what's GonNa separate to me whether Beckham and Landry hit the numbers we wanna see them hit or whether they fall short them what we want because. We don't really know if bakers just another dude or not. Internet you mean. So he'll be one of the more interesting quarterbacks washes year because there are some people who are like super high on him unlike like Bang for him have this huge rebound some people just don't trust the dude at all so. We'll see how much of a difference he can make in making these two special and making these guys bolts. Things about the coaching staff and Baker. Fans in. Right go I think that. I think. He has old good performances out of players, Lake, keenum who maybe are just. A little more coaching defender maybe they just need a little bit pat on the air and. I think I think. He can or Baker Baker. In turn can support need wider fever although oil I would I would rather place bets on a day because. He's more. And More dependent on. Their down more down warriors. Were were going to later were Adele can have a big game that makes a or play day. One I. Can. Make stuff for the think he's downstairs and. Aggressor had entry. You know I do want to say one thing in regards to that, which is landry actually from a prepared and per reception standpoint. Last year had a greater yards retarded yards per perception than Odell. I honestly think the as Landry's career goes on. The scheme that he's in is going to be way more indicative of his you know overall. Than Him as a player, I think that Lane G. can run the whole route tree. I think we've seen that I think that the way he was utilized in the past made him seem like this? You know taking drop off short yardage guy who's just going to get a ton of run after catch. But what we saw from last year was not that at all and the fact that he out target last year be it slightly. And the year prior makes me feel like that's probably GonNa be where they're at this year and he has a better historical catch rate as well. So I think for Landry from me from a projection standpoint, it's probably going to eke out Odell slightly is far as toll target's goes it's probably going to eke out a does slightly and catch rate. And as far as yards per reception, which should be big difference maker I. Think Lane is going to be closer than a lot of people would think. So for meat they're really close. I think it's interesting because even though I have Odell. Five six spots higher in my rankings. I have landry a lot higher than US going and drafts. So I own a ton more landry and this is why think rankings are such an interesting process because for me the more indicative how drafts are going and how I want to adjust Senate draft than they are specifically this guy's going to outperform this guy. Yeah Yeah. Yeah rankings. Are you know unique in their fact that everyone Kinda doesn't differently you know what I mean some people were just going strictly off ADP. Some people are you know going off of who they prefer draft in you know in those places like it just depends on how you set it up you know so and you'll see that you know throughout. This episode throughout the ranking member says that we do that we all kind of do these different and obviously we were going to one set number. It'd be more closer than the are as far as how we rank these guys sounds like as far as trust issue goes we all trust that these guys could technically have to twenty four guys dot twenty four guys but. There's obviously a lot of factors at play in the favor with you know what Baker and the head coach in offense and just everything has to kind of click in a certain way. But then we trust those two receivers the you know they're capable of basically. which is good. All right. Let's go onto the next one we have here we have a Juju is a top fifteen wide receiver. Adam Yuka sorry this one. have some feelings on Jeju. On, I'm so. I think that from a career trajectory standpoint, he looks pretty similar to Julio Jones the difference with Julio Wednesday Julio. Himself got injured with Juju beyond injury to Big Ben which you know for a lot of wide receivers shouldn't hold them back to that degree It is definitely a little bit worrisome that you wasn't able to produce without fans. The quarterback that being said then should be the starter again to begin the season and I think judy is really -sition to take off in that offense I'd I don't think really anybody threatens him for that. I wide receiver role and a lot of people are big vantage volante Johnson in offense. To me, personally I think, judy walks into the lead role in that offense and I think from what we've seen from him. When he's on the Field Big Ben, he's a top ten wide receiver and that's basically what the space on the somebody who I think. Had A really poor year, but he's really young wide receiver who I think could rebound from that strong and I think with a healthy van, he's he's going to be really. You know a real tough thing for defense deal with right and so everyone is aware here with Juju this, we had them listen you have him in nine atom. Met Fourteen which I thought you know I think generally speaking is higher on just the general rankings across the board and all the sites and everything and then Josh I mean I'm kind of jealous I'm not GonNa lie everyone knows I'm not a big. Fan Right like I said, he would have a bad year last year he did obviously, I could predict. And all the reasons why but I did feel like he was gonna take a hit Ab there and You know he dropped significantly Josh has him. At twenty. Four. And I'm Super Jealous that see I'm deontay Johnson van. So that's why I don't have as much faith Jew but I'm curious how you know Josh has made this happened in his mind. Because Everyone would be skeptical where Josh ranked him. I think more than any US. So Josh, what has Juju at Twenty Four for you? You know I would have fire in dynasty in redraft just what they're gonNa do this year I have to ask which guy one and. I definitely want out of dealing. You Know Orleans threatening I I feel like you have to in the Nada Her Doodoo? He's dealt. What's The word or back Gercy in for better. You know art ever. Garbage Landry both the headed Doodoo. So, basically, the volume getting is you just don't believe in the steelers much as far as just an offense right in comparison to all these other guys. Other players on the steelers food outperforms Doodoo under the same set of circumstances. And maybe do not healthy and we don't know that You know that that would that would definitely impact my opinion of him. Right, now I've got eight. Eight Hilton reduced you. I've got an Acre durant wider Caesar's. A just I just can't the trigger on Juju L. While we're. Super Interesting. Obviously, you have trust issues with him in the top fifteen. I will say ten times out of ten. I Have Johnson not do I will not have an alien there's just no chance when ranking them just tried to be fair implemented place right? Feel like you know if he gets a targets if begins back if everyone's health if do worked on his game, all those kind of things I feel like you know putting him near the fifteen spot is fair. And I've seen a lot of people who've had a much higher. Joshes a from our our respect. I respect the low job Adam do you hate it? No I think you just did exactly what I with Adele as you put Juju at a spot low enough near rankings that you're probably not going to draft him. But at a spot that if everyone else in your draft is also avoiding him do kind of have this baked in equity where you're like I'm not the smartest person in the world I could be wrong I'm gonNA draft him at this point because at this point even if I'm right. At least baked in enough eighty p value that I can make up for it elsewhere whereas Josh's more from raking standpoint putting guys in a position where he's just like I'm not touching and how I don't really care I. Don't think that he's going to get anywhere near top twenty production I'm just he's not going to be on any of my hands and I, think that's a little bit. You know the difference as far as ranking styles and I'm eating my words here after this is over but I just saw jujubes and Alpha Man. I don't think he's an Alpha. There's a lot of wide receivers they're now and Yati Johnson they drafted Chase Klay Pool. They got James Washington. There's just a lot of guys there and I don't know man I after a be left I was concerned that he wanted to be the lead dog and I just don't know if I feel they say they're going to put him in the slot right? Did you guys see that? That is yeah that is what I've read as well, which I think could be really nice for him for no other reason than he will. Lead that team yards. Yeah. So it'd be it'd be fun to watch this plays out since we're all kind of space out on him but yeah, I respect jokes. The sand that end earlier ground has given everybody reason to doubt him. Doubt Him. He really was maybe the greatest thing in wider Iverson's Jerry right like. A. Normal. there. And do out to share mobile and I don't think that. May, do do but. Do not suffer loss of Noli. Ground but their quarterback yeah, I mean I, agree with the summit but the fact that you just ignored Randy Moss for that. Stretch of time just offends my ego. Won't won't move how about how about this before we move on if Antonio Brown came back into the league and he wasn't spend our draft him a redo matter where he goes periods senator discussion. So that's how little I cared about Judy really honestly but I just Oh, I can hold you to abm your top fifteen if he lands on TV he onto him. Yeah. Yeah you know he's suspended for the first Games. Right? That's I. said if he wasn't suspended drop out. Sure. unfettered out of any wide receiver is having the season half a season or run hot Antonio Brown can give you half the season started week nine. Yeah probably better than Judy. Let's move on. What we get for Juju, his eleven. Or something. de'andre. Hopkins. Finishes. Top Five Trouser Trust, issues this is a this is a good one because he's the big wide receiver who changed teams and I know some people feel very strongly about changing teams especially now with the world ing pure chaos and people not able to create this chemistry that we would like them to at this point This is a fun one he he goes to the to the cardinals. Tyler Murray. It's just a whole bunch of craziness Josh. Trust Trust issues at deandre hopkins can finish off top five. I trust issues with it because I just think that the change of teams and everything you already said I think it matters. But I, also, I also have this impulse to take him to edit that because. Has Gone from Bill Brian. Let's run while run the ball, run the ball to live Kingsbury and cuyler Murray. Era Offense and it know like the Andrea can. Finally get realized he is but. I think it's next year just just like Odell and garbage didn't really take off your one in Cleveland at the. Options might need that here. Okay. So now I will not questioned deandre hopkins finish off I totally trust it Adam. Do not mention WHO's above his ranking of deandre Hopkins yet. Because we're gonNA use that later. Said, you mentioned who he has ranked abode under Hans. However. You have a WHO I know but he's not in your top five. So this is interesting. Yeah. Well, you're you're super confident. He'll finish out five, but you will not drive no issue. Could he gets he gets end up five I have to be full disclosure six but you know I got at least take some permits somewhere because this is I mean this one's Kinda it's a little silly. You guys both have on its six I haven't five like it wouldn't be doing here. At the end of the day I think De'andre Hopkins his transition should make anybody nervous that being said for me at least after the top four wide receivers which I mean we'll probably get. In a minute here could kneels pressing to not about anyone who's higher than us? So we'll get to that but my top four basically locked in, and then from five to like thirty something, it's weird. I honestly think that there is a lot of variability from at least in my personal rankings from five to oh essay about like thirty four so like I wouldn't be shocked if Marquees Brown finishes his the top five this year, I wouldn't be shocked. Brandin cooks ends up being the best wide receiver. In Houston. It's finishing top five like those guys that have. Outside of my top thirty and I would not be shocked if they finished out five, I think that obviously the Andre Hopkins I'm way more confident in than those guys. But might overall point is there's a lot of parity at the wide receiver position and I think that while the Andrea Hopkins. I would say I I do trust to finish top five. There's a lot. There's GonNa be a lot of variation there. I think that you draft him where he is because of the confidence you have him returning you know top twelve value but specifically top-five obviously he's going to be harder every year it varies so greatly yeah. Yeah. No Yeah I know we all have him practically five right so like like you mentioned so I think we all could technically trusted apply practically here is not out of the possibility to anybody. But yeah. No, I didn't mention who josh had above him because I want him in our next segment here. Want. Josh to defend that. But just it's different than both of ours however yeah. We I think we all trust that he could finish. I, think the only concern is that he changed teams right I mean we all know what he's done I? Don't see. You know I see no reason why they would have to form of they weren't gonNA use him a ton. But. You never know things get weird sometimes but I am fully on board him like if he comes to me. I have no issue with it like I'm not going to buy I. Don't know I don't trust him. You know this new situation like I'm not GonNa have that conversation with myself like she's not going to happen So yeah, I I very confidently pick him above everyone else that I have on. Will I no question I'll go. Well, you know this other guy, my pass it I don't care about that like I I feel good where I had him that the only people concern me the ones that have. Above So I'm not worried about the people behind him. So Yeah. All right. So deandre Hopkins, you know it's it's a it's the story. You know he's a new place and people were interested to see how he plays out in a new home with you know this weird offseason. So all right. Let's move on from trust issues then I wanted to do something a little different here today no rank. In this episode I wanted you a little segue call it ten toes down right and anyone who knows. You stand your ground on something. You know you you. You're standing on both feet fully fully in on something right? You're you're standing your ground. You're not shaking in not swayed by nothing. You're just your farm on it so I wanted to do this but I wanted to take it where we all stand our ground on one of our receivers Adam you did. Mention that we should choose the water receiver that the other person has to stand their ground on ten Tinto's down on. So I think that's a good twist and they to go way to do it. So let's do one for you. I Adam, Josh, do you have a player mind that you feel really strongly that we should make Adam stand his ground Tinto's on. I would like to see Adam stand his ground on Chris God will be the wide studer six. All right. All right. Adam. Being, called out my man he's got he. He wants to hear what you have to say. About why you have Chris six I'd so just I though Neil gets no input whatsoever. What? Or is NEO GONNA pick a player after this because. Has Chris Cot when in his top five, which is be higher Ed. I'm not going to be. I'm not going to be you don't define. Chris. Chris, Godwin to Josh, and then you know what Neil if you want, you pick somebody else in now defend them to earn. So to start Chris God so. From what we saw last year, the offense that we saw in twenty nineteen is going to be drastically different in my opinion, the offense let me see in twenty twenty for Tampa. Bay that being said, one of the few consistent things in that offense that I see moving forward is going to be Chris Godwin. The main reason is just because he plays out slot. I think that the offense that Bruce. Arians runs historically and that. Tom, Brady has thrived in historically have been offenses that utilize slot as a way to move the ball downfield consistently They essentially are two offenses that are literally designed around utilizing that player in a very similar way to most teams utilizing. They constantly target them in these quick short field passes that allow them to move the ball downfield. What we've seen from Bruce Areas the. Entire career I mean he made Larry Fitzgerald this insane slot while. I do not think that that's going to be any different for Chris. God and for what we've seen from Brady, it doesn't matter who in the slot for him. He makes that player a stock I mean he did that with West Welker in Julian settlement these guys that are nowhere near the talent level Chris Scotland. I think it's insane to think that. Literally, anyone else on that offense is going to benefit from Tom Brady coming there Tom Brady is a forty three year old wide receiver. He's going to not be able to push the ball downfield is much has in the past. So I think you're going to see as far as shift from Chris Godwin is you're probably gonna see his yards per. Targeted yards perception drop down but I honestly think you could be one of the most targeted players in the NFL this year and as crazy as it might sound, I think that you could surpasses country and twenty targets from last year and do by quite a good margin I. Honestly didn't probably going to see upwards of one, hundred, hundred, sixty, six year. I with you man I'm with you. I'M NOT GONNA argue I'm not gonNA keep looking other player but Josh do you have anything you want to say to that or are you happy with Adams Answer? I am not happy with the idea that Tom. Brady going to. Decide argued to the extent that Chris has that kind of upside he he had. One hundred nineteen last year in his breakout year with which is fine. But he seemed greatly outperformed is volume in terms of touchdowns third in total touchdowns, and at I'm twenty seven scenarios. and. I didn't know that he keeps I just don't think that he keeps up that same. level. I think my given. Is GonNa enjoy or an Iguana believes. I'm going to jump in here to thank Chris go into you know. So Julia had his best career year last year. He's oldest shit to right and. Godwin's the best wide receiver radio ever played with besides her any Moss so He I. Think he's in a ball out I. don't I don't see where he how he doesn't ball out So I have no issue I have him in my top five, right so I love Chris I've always loved Chris Cowan I don't see how Tom Brady. Any worse of a situation they're gonNA use him in the slot like crazy. He's just man he's the man. He's the man in Tampa to me I, know we all like Mike Evans sue but I have him a little lower. There's no way for me. Chris Cowan has a bad season or goes backwards or anything for me. I'm totally confident going. So I'm not gonNA argue about Adam. I mean you heard it here. First Chris Godwin is better than oneal Brown now. Yet, them for one de for a day. Don't even count. But yeah. So yeah, Chris Godwin is better than Rob Gronkowski. Receiver. Well. Council. Yes. All right. So I. I need to see so many hip thrusts Outta Chris Godwin before I'm. Just, man, he gave Tom. Brady of the number everything Matt's all happened is all coming together that that was when he gave him that number he was like you give me one, hundred, fifty targets I appreciate a man. All right I think he defended it pretty well Josh he defended He. He kept Tinto's down now. Do you want me to go next or Josh Gio necks and I honestly still want you to do one for me because I know what you want to challenge Josh on and that's not what I watch. Allen Shot. Really. WanNa challenge on different sides. Wish it did to each I think it'll make it interesting it'll. It'll be fog. Let's see what I don't out there that you think I really should not be be ranking where they are from. China who tool. Okay. Okay. Okay. See who really off with you on I'm Gonna I'm GonNa Challenge. You here I wanna see you hold this down and I think Josh on this with you. Then we just make sure Yeah, he is. Okay. So the have different than both you as AJ Brown. All right man that's actually a really good one because Aj browns somewhat I literally just moved up in my rankings This is one of those situations where disclosure. I listen to someone think smarter than me at this speak about Aj Brown and what he didn't store play in his rookie season and it made me move him up quite a bit my ranking such a nice complimentary to give Josh yeah it it's not. The Godfather of zero running back and stuff Sean Siegel. I listen to him out podcast recently just talked about what Aj Brown did as a rookie. And ultimately just when you look at historical breakouts, he projects to be absorbed breakout, and so I put him in what I consider my historical breakouts here. I mean I have him ranked right next to Calvin Ridley and Cooper. Even Adams Zealand. I think have the potential to finish five now granted from what I just said earlier about how deep that layer goes. There are so many is that I think do have that upside I mean it might take some credence way from that. But I think for me the main things. Aj browner ultimately. As a rookie, he showed this ability to be an Alpha receiver in the NFL Ultimately, I do not see anyone threatening his target share on that all fence even though the obviously going to be a very heavy run offense. He's so going to be the guy who needs that team in targets and for me I still have them right outside my tops well, because ultimately might concern with Aj. Brown is a valium concern Personally, I think to be a topped while riding you bring the NFL you're probably going to have to maintain about one hundred and fifty plus targets I think Aj Brown's probably realistic to see you like in hundred, twenty, two, hundred, forty range. So that's what kind of asses ceiling. All right. So no no. Seriously though. So you see him jumping from like I think yet under eighty-five targets last year. So you see jump in from the eighty plus eighty to eighty, range, two, hundred, and twenty. Plus Arias. Constantly. But this I mean is something you see from rookies in their setting you're quite often I mean. To see him as one, hundred, fifty target jump or jump to one hundred, fifty targets like that. That's me would be a pre gigantic reach but. I think one hundred twentieth realistic I think the upside of one, hundred, thirty, eight, hundred, forty targets possible. But yeah. He started the season as a rookie. He got into the role that he finished season only in his like last seven, six seven games or so based on like his game logs. So ultimately. I, think that. What he projected to do towards the end of the second half of last season is probably what he's going to have moving forward. And I just think that to me. Projects to be a player that has the potential for a lead upside while still ultimately having sealing cap a little bit by volume. Yeah. I mean I understand where you're coming from with it. I had twenty. So it's not like I have absurdly low but it's just an he is a one of those guys whereas I think we all want him to break out and we all think he should do better than you know he did last year But also when you have Derrick Henry is just hard to you know then you obviously have people who are skeptic. To Ryan. Tannehill. Right. They just don't believe that this guy can do it again because they've never seen him do it before last year and you know so it's an I know Josh is a big Fan Aj Brown to use a fan last year and I will say I under appreciated him going into ash is not going to nothing I didn't draft him in Dynasty Ali Titans forget it I want to of this do but I mean it it is an important point. There is no other know threat there unless you Corey Davis is going to have a revival. There's no reason to believe that he has threatened. You know it's just it's just you know he's he has a clear path to those charges. Are we referring to if he gets them so I I respect your stance there man I'm your stance, right? So defended Aj Brown you defending Chris God win Let's let's Josh. That's what Joshua the fire a little bit here man. I'll let you pick Josh for guy that you want to big on. Okay Yeah. This. This one is the opposite direction that both you guys went I don't know how you have Davante Adams Eight He's basically a consensus wide receiver two-three going off draft boards in the first round. Most of the time essentially having a wide c-grade means you're not gonNA draft him. So why aren't you draft? Before Josh talks if you if you're an Aaron Rodgers, Fan just like the next five minutes hedge. I just I think that the devante add. allure is go large will have on the mythology of Aaron Rodgers. And think that era is. That you know. Over. Last year. That's. Game he's his own around hundred yards a game but at fatigue behind several guys do hind the under-. Hopkins team behind. Behind even guys like Odell Allen Robinson. So he is not only a much more you I be. Relied speaker. And I also. I. Think that the we've seen. Aaron Rodgers at Lee Year's good end. and. No longer is entitled. This Huge share. Air Joe. Aj. Deal. Any other player on the packers didn't. That We're giving won't that and for not. Good. Wow. Adam I. This guy standing ten does down he didn't he didn't waiver. Please tell me spots. I mean. The touchdown arguments interesting one. All right Allie start there because we now see in three seasons of this. subpar. Aaron. Rodgers that isn't the thirty plus touchdown guy that we knew basically for the majority of career you know the last two seasons is twenty five and twenty success down so The idea that there's a little trepidation around how many touchdowns Davante. Adams. Sinn store. I kinda get. That being said Aaron Jones was second in the NFL in rushing touchdowns. Last year I don't think that that's going to be nearly as I think that those numbers are going to shift a little bit. And you could easily Sierra Rogers get closer to thirty this year around thirty. The biggest factor is simply Its usage I mean I to me. I don't know how you look at those areas and have the conversation where you'll like Oh, there were a couple of guys where ahead of him so he's not going to be close to that. He played twelve games and he was banged up and he was still six in the NFL actually. I'm sorry Josh. He was fourth NFL in yards so. The the two guys that you listed I mean there were super close Odell Alli Robinson but they were actually just behind him in air yards per game. That being said I mean those guys roll neck and neck ultimately though I think that from a volume standpoint, Davante Adams is going to be one of the top five most targeted receivers in the NFL. Now, you have Devon punches not playing this year, which takes away one of the only targets that were on that. All fence that you know Aaron, Rodgers kind of new seem like you might ever with. So you've got another situation another year once again where Aaron Rodgers is basically going to be throwing atoms the ball hundred and eighty times and Obviously. From me just on Bible that makes him a huge activity, top five receiver and just what he's shown he can do historically was going touchdowns and thimble make big plays and and just be a guy who is the focal point of that offense. That for me makes him somebody want and I'd like to add in here to like every year. There's some other wide receiver in the packers everyone tries to get on board with like never pans out. So like obviously a lot of people like Allen, lazard this year the MVSA. Jay Kumar Oh had his his office is a his his off season or whatever it was people love them for a little bit like preseason everyone every all all these guys have had their time in the summer was a it's this guy's year or this is the other packer wide receiver that I like and like allison was there last year like these guys never really do anything and the tight ends are usually very underwhelming and so I don't see how you can argue against atoms but I mean now again, we're being you know. Being kind of picky here he obviously is more than up ten, but it's more about how low he hasn't been that top ten compared to you know the consensus everyone else mostly has like you said the top three at least But yeah, I'm so tired of people telling me Otherwi- receivers in Ingraham Bay I know Allen has a big big following right now he's the Guy but I've he I hear that every single season and nobody ever endangers Davante Adams. So Yeah. I. I'M NOT GONNA put him down there but josh Amine mean do you have any counter to Adam before we find another gang your list year? I. Don't believe I just don't believe in to haunt Adam. We need to. Be. Based fantasy analysis let's go to the next say say. Say That one more time. So I could turn into a clip. Josh. What was that I believe in Davante Adams he does not believe in Davante Adams. Okay. All right. That will be a clip Let's see the other guy I wanted to have. You kinda defend here and it's not that I don't like the guy is just how high you? Have the guy you kind of swapped him in Davante Adams and feels like and as Dj more. So you have these more higher than all of his on again. I have you know I'm big Fan I think Adam. Respects his game but you haven't higher than both of us and so I'm just curious how you've got him into your top four. I like Bj more because Dj Moore has checked all the boxes all along the way. Every step of his career is done exactly what? To do even given Shitty quarterback way and when you. Him To other historic parables. He is just as likely to continue to sin as he is to have kind of step back and that's just not true of a lot of are other. It's been repeating wide receiver once you know I'M I'm also a believer that Teddy Bridgewater can just distribute wall to these sort of low area retarget high yard after the catch type of players that that kind of make your own make their own way in the NFL. I think that Dj more is one of those players I. I am out on Devante I am I am in on Deejay were I think he's on the way up I think he's a safe bet and I think he had on everything along the way to. Support Beverly's Okay I. Mean a amongst everyone that we've talked about so far I would say he has or obviously Chris Cowan has Mike Evans but like I mean, he has some competition right I. mean some people aren't concerned about him. Yeah. Samuel you gotTa they signed Rob Anderson, they have the new quarterback Anouk fence none of that concerns you. I'd just see Robbie Anderson in Curtis Samuel both as playing a wool willfuller role to his dre Hawkins where the you know not necessarily similar layers. But D- D Day more is going to soak up more of the volume and Robbie Anderson Curtis Samuel will play more of the the splash ray is this the week or isn't it? When I scored seventy yard touchdown and I, I want the DJ more side that. Adam, do you do you see a big issue with him and number four I? Know you know you've made a point in this episode to say like you know you can see anybody basically fall into the top five at this point wide receiver Markey's Brown all these guys I guess. So you know it. So There's there's much fluctuation there for you that you see happen and I think we all. When we do these rankings, we see that will wire seaver more than probably any position that is that kind of position But do you have a tough time if you were to try to justify more your top four that difficult? Yeah I mean I see her josh is coming from I think the biggest concern for me with DJ Moore's touchdowns I mean the guy who scored six US I seasons combined. That's That's. That's where's the Julio Bud. That's like I mean Julio's a mean for how little he scored touchdowns and Dj more should be that mean I'm in my big concern ultimately is that offense is gonna live by Teddy Bridgewater and not a huge fan of ten as far as like a quarterback goes I think he's basically one of the best stories in the NFL and it's sad that he doesn't get talked about more is what he did after that injury to come back and now be starting for an NFL franchise is phenomenal. But speaking from a fantasy perspective I'm concerned with how he's GonNa do an offense and how he's going to support like a true Alpha number one wide receiver at being said, he did a good job with Michael Thomas? So there's obviously some ability for that. And on that offense, you also have another all fence that you know with the Saint States throw to their rimac sworn any other team in the NFL. So the transition Christian McCaffrey isn't at traumatic so I can see it from that standpoint. My biggest concerns ultimately are just going to be the overall efficiency of that offense I'm really personally I was discussing the Josh Voice Recording. A lot of analysis, a top down analysis when I look at that decision. I think Carolina's the worst team in that division. I'm it's going to be close between them in Atlanta but I don't think of them are close to the saints of the box. So for me personally I think you know. Dj More might allow late in volume, but as far as my biggest concern for him, which is touchdowns. That's my biggest concern the offense as well. So they go hand in hand he still in my top twelve still a guy drafting but ultimately, like that's to me what cap ceiling if he comes out and says touchdowns yeah, he's got he's got finished. So I, think that for Josh, it's religious having a positive touchdown regression. I, just don't necessarily see because I don't see the often translated that. And be fair. There are some people who are who are really really really big fans of that offense and like what he can do so I mean there's a lot of you know it's GonNa be a fun storyline I. Mean we all agree with that McCaffrey, which we all know what he's capable of, and that's the one sure thing for sure and dd more is really good. But I mean, we're GONNA see a new quarterback a coach coming from college to run the team who has an are big time offense in college, and so it's GonNa be a lot of different things here to kind of watch, and this is their first time moving on from Tam and like. Didn't play last year really but this is the you know the big big story line here you know camps a Patriot, and then panthers are a different team at this one pretty much as far as quarterback all these things go so. It's going to be a fun fun team to watch you know they're one of the storylines for sure to keep an eye on. All right. You both have stood attend to ten toes down I I. That has done a really good job I. Think we've all done a good job call out certain players here who stand out according to our list and we've all defended them pretty well, it's my turn. I don't know who you guys are going to go with here. I'm in line with a of you guys on certain things and then there's some guys that stand out on. So hit me. Let's see. We got. Josh wanted to go first so you go or it All. Right. So my one, eight I mean we're not drastically far off, but you've Odell Beckham in your top twelve and I'm I'm really curious about how you how you get them. There is obviously, as I stated, before my ranking of him at eighteen is more just indicative of me saying I'm probably not going to be drafting this guy when in reality as I went through, I think landry outs for him. So for you, what has Odell have that top twelve? All right. So I, know we touched on these guys earlier so It's kind of repetitive a little bit in that sense like, yeah I think the history that you mentioned on his you know his his statistical history just says that he's capable of it I play. That's super important right? Like if someone's done something once I feel like there's there's reasonably they can do it again. Obviously, he was on new team The team hasn't been so great in the past and the whole team struggled. So I do feel that that team is in line for a upswing. We've been kinda waiting for the browns to to do what we thought they could do, and so I feel like I really believe in the coach in this year I feel like. Between Baker and Odell. And Jarvis Landry these these are like passionate fiery guys with big reputations being egos and I feel like they feel the heat, right like these guys actually feel it coming down and like everyone's judge everyone shitting on them. No one's giving them love and for good reason, rightly, they just haven't been that great or at least we'll be all had these high expectations. For. So everything coming out of like this crazy season weird stuff that's been going on as far as how everyone's been preparing for this season but everything is really really good for the browns like the coach the players Baker Mayfield talked a lot as far as his shape, his condition, his mental state Odell Beckham promise in you know big numbers and obviously I expect. These guys to do that But when I pair all of those things where I see the team in proven as offense improvement from a coaching standpoint and I just feel these guys all have chips on their shoulders. I I believe in for a big year because we haven't talked about Odell in a while as far as he knew, he was in New York. You is like the star of the League, in a sense as far as he was disclosed there too as well. But like he wishes in the headlines, all the time we talked about him, I feel like you know he wants his dues man like he wants his respect and the only thing that I I am concerned about is you're Jarvis Landry right like this. For A guy who his history says, he's always going to hit this certain mark only matter how little we Believe in the guy for some reason He's my only real threat to Beckham but I feel like he doesn't have the upside. The Beckham has like. He'll. He'll cut you hundred timeshares landry, but but beckon will blow your head off. That makes sense. So like I love Beckham's upside and what I've seen him do in the past I believe he's at a point where he's in a repeat. History as far as not his best years ever but he's going to be up there where I feel confident putting them there and I want some upside there man. So that's why I pushed him up there because some of the other guys don't necessarily excite me because if we're looking at other guys that you guys have their like Brown and these. Guys, there's not there's not that funding me man like on born offenses I don't fight. They're going to be you know how heavily relied on and for the browser release succeed I feel like Beckham has to do great and I I. There's not much in the way slowing him down for me they got they added good tight. They're good tight end. I just feel really positive for the browns moving forward offensively and I feel like Becca will be a big part of that going back to a place that he played at a level that he played out before. Yeah so A lot of the things that you say about O'Donnell's talent like I. I'm in Lockstep with for me might challenge with putting him where you have them or rejecting him to finish up. Well. Is really a volume concern based on historical catch rate. From what we've seen from Odell is cut-rate Sixty one point five percent, and that's inflated on a seventy percent rookie year. Every year after that, he's been sixty two percent or lower and last year he only had a five percent catch reason I bring that up is volume is huge for him and from what we've seen in this offense, Jarvis Landry is more likely to dominate the volume, and even if he doesn't the split going to be closer than it ever was with him in anybody with the giants so for him to be able to. Produce, like he had in the past he's GonNa be needing to see the hundred and sixty plus targets than you saw in his second and third season in the NFL. I just don't think you can get that value. So for me, it's not talent. Concern is just a volume concern but ultimately what you see him like from a talent standpoint and from upside standpoint I get an on the off chance that like Landry. Or something. He does have that huge ceiling. Right, he does not also mention that he was hurt last year to get a corey injury he was dealing with, which is obviously difficult receiver. So if he's fully healthy, which you know he says he is man everything just one hundred percent Odell Beckham. If he had if he's had a chance to really improve on the chemistry, which I know has been tough like I said with this kind of weird offseason stuff but I just feel like many super hungry. We hit his his statistics, he can do it. And if he's fully healthy and him and Baker on a better page and his team, just generally offensively bitter direction I feel like I feel confident in his upside and his potential. So I feel good putting him there I'm not too concerned about it but I understand like there's there is some things like right like some people are just free his attitude want they shouldn't be at twenty twenty season all this kind of stuff like you're concerned about. The attitude side of things but I feel like the player man like, I trust them. I WANNA call me crazy. If he's healthy Johnson. Josh such a mouth back there man. I I need no. I need to know I von tape artery at wide receiver eight. Okay. This guy here I. Seven. Glad. Because that was the one I was debating between listen you guys and it's and it's seventy even more region. So. First of all, I have them here, Shirley respect first of all He bawled out last year. Right? You're one of you deny that he had a good year. Now okay. So we're all gonna be in that. He had seventy receptions, twelve, hundred yards almost ten touchdowns. We all agree that he had a really good year. No one could argue that fact great. So no one could argue that devante Parker looked like the devante Parker that this team thought they drafted. In two thousand fifteen. He played. I mean, he he played I. Think he did he miss a game last year I think he came out of the game once or twice battle. You may have. Played Sixty okay. Got He was. So he had the hundred and twenty plus targets the Adam. So you know expects AG Brown to have. He had the numbers, the production with those targets already. He, has a quarterback who's return in that. Got Him those numbers. And a young rookie who who may end up taking the guy's job at some point in the season but he's super talented and healthy. So unless a switch out, you know Fitzpatrick for the rookie just because they're losing something obviously that can change things if to a dozen, you know start off hot or leave off where as crazy as it is the treasury does But the only thing that you guys are going tell me is pressing Williams. That's it. Right? That's the only argument you're going to have the park or you just don't believe what he did before. What what what what is your? What is your big knock? Yeah I I mean there's only one big knock into Parker, and that's four and a half seasons of historical productions. I mean literally you like a guy because what he did essentially in eight games last year I mean. He before pressing Williams. Injury wasn't even the targeted guy offense so that only transitioned after injury in Africa quarterback change a quarterback change that very likely could change again this seats. So for me mean the. One we never see breakouts menaces totally weird anomaly broke out in his fifth year in the NFL Super Weird. Secondly, he broke out with quarterback that came in mid year who most likely he's GonNa see another quarterback transition did your this year? I. Don't know if it's related to Ryan it's Africa's visual I. Don't know they just have particular chemistry. I don't know what the offense is going to look like this year. So for me, the concerns are harder are really just. To be excited about him is literally to be excited about in extremely small sample size. So for me that just that's never gonNA work in my process right now you gotta be fair to Monte Parker had a lot of injury issues all those years he had a crappy coach. A lot of excuses I hear you I mean. But if you ignore the excuses I don't understand that. They're legit. He he was injury prone. He had a tons of issues. He had a quarterback who is known to ruin players ruin offenses, and he was perceived as a bus like he overcame that the fact that he overcame the emotional, the physical the I mean I understand how you could hate this dude like I just don't get it like. It's just crazy to me to root against this guy or not believe in this guy like after what he's overcome, it's like is crazy man. I don't get it back. They do was a bee's last year. You guys who understand this right? Like he dominated when he played and had great fantastic games and looked elite out there when he when he had these breakout games on dolphins team bro on the dolphins like who didn't have a lot of great things happening like. Man It's so frustrating when you got josh, what's your knock on Parker? Is it the same exact thing? He's never done it before. So now I, just can't believe it happened again. Now. Archer is that there are guys. that. I would rather on you know Calvin Ridley Inan Allen Aga Brown. Came back. These are all that's by her dude it. I mean that's fine. That's fine. Me Everyone has their guys I. Just we're. We're we're too quick to denounce guys like they don't come out shut out rookie year on fire or are in a perfect situation for everything to come together like we're just some of these guys which is young dudes man who are like bad offense or what injuries or just aren't fully developed in their skills and like we like coming out, people knew what he was capable of just because he didn't come out doors on fire. It's supposed to be never possible to beat at. which is fair man so like so. I mean other this won't convince you 'cause you don't believe in numbers but run a numbers standpoint just everything that he did was in holly I mean honest season he had sixteen point seven yards per reception. Outside of anything to be done historically shortly, prior to that, his average was to twelve point nine. Per Game. Perceived yards per session on seasons are. As far as catch Reagan's is the I of course, catch under sixty percent. The only way he is going to be productive in the NFL species insane `bout last year he saw nearly a hundred and thirty targets if you think that he sees that again this year. Then in order to have a fancy production that he had last year on top of that is going to have to maintain an unsustainable yards perception and he's GonNa. Have to score probably done digital touchdowns scored nine last year. So for me, there's just so many things that I expect to come down or stay where they've been at historically that for me. I. Just I can't make those numbers work may you'd hate where I asked him because i? Had Him outside I top thirty six bro, do listen listen I'm just GONNA. Say this before we end this segment here. He has the talented tight end on his team. He has a better running back corps. Then he's had in the past. He has a QB who believes in him right now right as long as fire history is the guy he believed him he will throw that Bhattarai Devante and give him a chance at a ball that other quarterbacks had not in the past because they didn't trust him for whatever the reason was the as a a new coaching staff right who believed in him I gave him that opportunity fresh start a new contract or whatever it was reworked contract. They did it I just feel like this guy is reborn man like he's healthy everything is coming into. Play everything is is is working in his favor to be the guy that people thought he was coming out. He was drafted where he was for reason I'm a believer in the rebirth of of his reputation and his skill set as a billion. The NFL and whether you guys are too afraid to believe that because the numbers don't work for you, I get it as fine play that game but I'm a big Fan I'm not going to be way last ten toes down. devante. Parker here. So I'm not going to buy it. I stand by it and yeah. So good about and and I don't even have him crazy high like it's not ridiculous like where he's. He's hop followed in me and like I got him a deep spa I feel like if you can say Aj is good. Just because he did it one year at all whatever like I think I think departure be I. Don't think it's any much of a chance for me when this guy had eighty targets or something like a receptions targets whatever was last year. I don't know man I I have no problem by the Burger and we'll see we'll see next year if he remains healthy who's right or wrong here but I I have no issue standing on it. I have no issue man. Top Top top twenty from man. Top Twenty You have it. So you have it. FELLAS. That you have that was that was fun. I kinda like ten toes down guys. I think we should do this for every. Every ranking group we do for sure those laws we rename it high love Tinto down, your hater Let's we WANNA listener questions. We got some good ones here, and then we will go to our new fouls are to wrap up the show listener questions. The first one is from at David owner scored DFA's shots David I like David. David is cool. Do Dave is in a league with those? David cards from recently I've known David Forever I'm he says how an I say that because I hate your question David I'm because it's disrespectful to my raiders. How many weeks until Mariota takes over I will not answer this question because I think it's zero weeks ever but I know you two are very adamant or at least Adam is very adamant that this is going to happen So Adam, you go ahead and take this question I and Josh. If you have anything you want time in my chime in is that Derek Carr will hold a position all year. But Adam go ahead and attack Derek Art Yeah I'm going hot to. Do I'm sorry but you're raiders horrible schedule. I. Don't know if you've looked at it you probably. Don't need anything or your mind that's this negative but they against the panthers that's winnable. That is winnable for the raiders. The raiders could start year one and go get excited. About to get rough from there, they gotta play the saints than the Patriots than the bills than the chiefs than the box. So they're going to be one in five to start the year, and that might be that might be car right there. I highly doubt it because I don't think they. Brought in Marietta is like this guy that they think's GonNa take over but. It. Very well could be it there from there. They have a little bit of hope they play the browns to play the chargers they play the broncos things get a little bit easier. But then. It's really for me a question of if he can withstand that horrible start the year because the raiders schedule isn't bad overall there. second-half schedules actually really nice. If the exception of the chiefs, there's a lot of winnable games in their. Problem is they're gonNA start the year in a giant hole and I don't know how that shifts sets him for me. I personally have Mariota at about four game starting right now. In fact TJ Hernandez just put out a tweet today regarding player prop on David car for a passing yards thirty, three, hundred and David carbon storage is thrown over thirty nine, hundred yards almost every season. So it's a very low number and really what that's indicative of is him not starting at full season? So for me you really just like that Vegas Line I think four games is probably right about the right number for what Mariota's should be projected to start looking at the schedule Oh man I'd be really I really concerned. Yeah I'm glad you pointed out the NFL conspiracy against the raiders to always doom their season one way or the other in star Knit. You know that rough out the gate was a perfect way to ruin that you know Vegas I mean you season so I'm glad you point out that conspiracy and you are conspiracy guy so you respect them. I. Appreciate that. But Josh are you with this guy that Marietta Stars four games or are you with me that Carter's the guy? Man. I don't really. Marcus Mariota offers a whole lot besides rushing on top of what Derek Carr can do. So I think that taking Marcus Mariota Desert Games Games's. Dares Eric to get hurt. And I I'm just not I'm just not that. Eight. Sixteen. Easily, the group is wide receiver core I think he might. Be a little better. See. You don't think if they're out of the playoff on the day at least see what they have in married ODA while. Spring. Mary in it all. Injuries. So he's just is just a backup to to me. He's he's like what Tannahill ended up being Tennessee ironically taking you know. The job there. That to me screams more of what Oakland could do if they you know have a big lost deficit obviously I think realistically, it happens much later in the year But Yeah I don't know I think that's interesting to think the Mariota's simply a backup especially Josh coming from you who I think at one point in time had Mariota's like a top ten dynasty quarterback but you know we're. Planning evaluation. Speaking move on. To be fair to your point there. It is for Marcus Mariota would make my my dynasty teams. Very good. Yeah you did you did trade me a first round pick for him. Jesus yeah. I forgot about that. Yeah. You did that was last year two last year. He trained me a first round pick for them and then tried to get the first pick back. The entire year we let him be on a fantasy football podcast. The opinion that plex starting quarterback is I is not worth the. But his ears. Game. He's not but okay. Yeah. So I I will say this. I. Actually Think Mariota is good for car like this is the first legitimate quarterback who could play in a win football game behind Eric. Car. So I think this I think Marietta is part of Derek cars energy that he has right now like I'm tired of being disrespected this and that like I think this is great for Derek Carr like defeat all that heat like for once like, Hey, they gotta quarterback behind you who? was like actually supposed to be a good quarterback and like isn't that bad and it would plays he actually isn't too too bad at the game. So I think this is all good for the raiders this upside to me. So and I remember the season where Derek Carr got hurt and the season was complete over after a great season all year. So I have no issue with him being our backup and that's all he is Yeah I'm good with it. David thanks for. This raider slander that you brought to the pod today I really learned for Marcus Mariota. Bet. On, young quarterbacks and dynasty to stop. The old guys. But you weren't the only one I mean that was like a player profile at the time wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah they were pumping. Is. He does some things that make him appealing but it it not work out. All right, let's move on next question. We have here from the from our good Buddy Josh from the show at generally underscore aware. I'm against a few questions here. What kind of just jump through them really quick. He says Keenan Allen or decay decaffeinated either one of you feel really strongly about that I think we all ha- decay. Make Cav ranked higher I believe her recall. Did. Anyone getting out above him. Okay. So yeah. We I think we all felt decays better Josh hub-bub into right. Feel like, yeah, I. So I have a Ad Wide Receiver Tanning Ken Allen Wide Receiver Twelve or pretty close. Just not talk about Joshua's crazy rankings. Receiver ten that's so bold. I actually like get a lot but that's sobel especially above lock it. Uh so while I do. It justice rankings are so much more fun than mine in meals. Rookie Year hugger targets Ricky your hundred targets that is is very good signal for future success. He had nearly thirteen hundred yards in his rookie year and comparing that to Keenan's superior fifteen hundred. But. He's going tyrod. There's a snare I'm willing to give. The nod for doing it, you're one. Yeah. d.c As everything AG Brown Fans Brandon. He's already here you had those charges Adam predicts So we'll see but I, I do like decay over q noun, this year and. Say 'cause I do like a lot. I just don't trust the quarterback situation there and I don't know how that thing is shake out but I think you now to safe bit. As he always is, but as the upside of decay and what he can do and offense can do so i. don't know he's just more fun player draft but the I think we all kind of decay above him. Okay article and the other question you had here was what team will have to I receivers in the top twelve. Liking he said Can Gowan Evans do it? We're Brady I think we've mentioned that earlier that we all agree that he they they can do it. They'll we don't. Know now I'm GonNa. Disagree. And actually I love this question. I'm really glad that draft proposed this because typically there's at least one team every year that as two guys in the top twelve. So I think there's a couple teams that at the time to do that this year for me though my favorite is probably Atlanta, I think what Calvin Ridley is shown in that offense is that he is a dominant force and the biggest thing that I see coming from. That offense is the ship with Losing Austin Uber. I don't think hated nurses is going to be someone who can fill that target share at all. So I think that that's going to cause start shift back to the wide receivers more, and ultimately that's GonNa follow more targets to Julio and more targets to Ridley, and I think that puts those two in the best position to finish top twelve for me that would stem just slightly above Tampa Bay. I mean obviously still like their chances just a spot talent alone. But my concerns are ultimately with Brady and his sport too I think in a Bruce Arians offense it's probably likely that he can at least support Suu but my concerns are more out either them you know faltering from eighty a little bit and honestly the sneaky Josh already brought it up a little bit with this. You know really bulger decay metcalf, but if if they. Ever decide to open up that all fence Russell Wilson can support to top twenty four wider secrets. He definitely can especially because I mean I love will d'isly but they're not gonNA utilize the tight end to a large degree. It's GonNa be followed through those two wide receivers and if they open it up at all lacking a metcalf or good enough to be top wall. So my number one pick would be Atlanta but my number two sneakier picket Seattle. As Fair I mean Yeah I. Think those are the two obvious ones. SEATTLE. Is a wildcard. Know will mean Josh do you is there any other team a UC that can do this or are you in line with him here? Or I think that I think it's Seattle and A. There aren't runners. You. Is is in. And I think that. Dallas can do it. I. Make. A WITH At A. And I repeat the land. In early. In Gallup could could make a run. For clarity though you're saying top twenty four for those I just WanNa. Make sure the initial question was stopped. A deal. But that does definitely make a distinction because I think those are great tops twenty four picks like Dallas. For instance, I'd be hard pressed to see them to talk well. The. Ride. The yeah. Both of those are interesting top war. Seattle man it's hard to deny Mr Unlimited I mean his potential is just Man I didn't Ever. Be An athlete made me like Henry Pseudo, but he's doing. A deep world in a UFC. See guys. Awfully hopefully rescue got that. The next question. At US Austin underscore g underscore H. against out the Austin for always You know hitting his up participate in showing love sending questions he acts in we've talked about the browns a lot today I'm he hasn't browns question you said, was Kevin fancies run first game script a product of his own design or was it is only option he said, what are the chances to savannah ski runs a more pass Friendly Games group? We talking about these guys all day basically so Are of US inclined to say that they're going to have some a really pass friendly offense even though they have these good running backs and. Yes. So I think I've spoken about this before but I think that. Game script is indicative to avoid offense does it has to do with the individual game so When you're looking at these. Play callers and you want to say this is a guy who is a run I play caller. Yeah. If the situation dictates input if they're down by seventeen, they're not running the football. So the BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MINNESOTA IN CLEVELAND IS MINNESOTA had one of the best defense in the league had a phenomenal offensive line and were able to build a team that structurally was built around the run. Now, you have a team in Cleveland that looks like they're trying to build Kinda similarly, they've been working on the offensive line they have to extremely dynamic running back so. I could see them being a little bit more run focus but as far as the overall run volume that's only going to have to do with the offense efficiency it's only gonNa have to do them winning games and being in the late in games, and it's really going to have to do with Baker not turning the ball over like he was doing last year and being able to be a little bit more of a game manager which I think is probably the direction that that offense goes more which the same reason that honestly it's so funny. I'll just say over the course of this. I'M GONNA go back down. Further. I'm sorry I just did it because at the end of the day I'm not gonNA draft I am not and ultimately Mike concerns around that offense are still there and I think that from you know play calling standpoint. I I. Don't Know How many games they're going to win. So the probably going to be a little bit more past I've been people are gonNA Expect Anima. Loves to adjust those rankings on the fly live on the air. As we. As the one of us, that is constantly drafting. I'm constantly adjusting by rankings don't you try to down as boy don't try to knock down. A Yeah I think these fancy question like I think it is just kind of. Run thing may be his bread and butter maybe what he wants to do, but obviously, the teams that he's had has also been just the best option you know and so and that's a lot of offense right? Like if you have a good run game is should be like your first option and should be part of the game strip in a major way and he's had that you know that luxury in the past. So he's going to have it again in Cleveland I mean we'll see. How how shakes out but I think that I think this offense could be passed friendly for sure with these obviously with these wide receivers but there there's definitely if they're in the lead, you know that defense can hold up at all in Cleveland and there's definitely games where these guys can run wild and There's no way like I think like you said, it's a game to game type of thing and how it's how it's playing out for them but it's a good question though Josh and adds that was the next question. Sure did things number one, a pass friendly offense is unfriendly offense because a team that can pass the ball efficient efficiently benefited running backs and number two I want myles Garrett back in the NFL and I want him to get to put some kind of like Mason Rudolph sticker on his helmet. Of the World War Two bombers used to put like the like I kill as many people. Like like I, drop any bombs I like a Mason Rudolph with across through it while. I think it's fair that we all hate the guy. So my mom's Gerry. Gary just signed a big contract to right so. Yeah. He's on affect contract I. Think it was like two hundred, twenty, five mil or something was beautiful So yeah, he is. Shows goes to sell you all that suspension stuff wasn't no Biggie The last we have here is from at CD piglet He's in Josh kind of answered this a little bit on twitter Josh can't help himself to take these show questions and jump right in Hey, send us questions for the show me. We're GONNA ask for them on twitter Explain to him how Gallup has an ADP in the seventy to eighty range dynasty considering his numbers year to end the offense he's in jot eligible first since you or so anxious on twitter. I. So go ahead and and there's no you think and we'll see what Adam thinks and go from there. By Gallup, already finished as the number twenty, four wide receiver in twenty nine. And his numbers were pretty much at that level across the board. I don't really see a lot of reason to to expect worked wide receiver to come in and I might want our subjugated. Day We've seen that. Amari Cooper is. Able you know vital crabtree who has Just Journeyman wide receiver managed to maintain dominance and I think by Gallup is underway. I will say that I have Amari Cooper I think I had him at ten. On my rankings and I hated every second of it because you. Guys Know Worry Cooper Fan I wanted to knock Juju off this damn list completely if I could, but it just wouldn't be justifiable but I hated every second of it I never will draft Cooper will only unless you put a gun to my head and I'm not a fan of the dude at all I. Know he has some skills great route running Augusta I just think is a champ on the field I don't like him and so I have no. I would not be surprised if you know Gallup. Still gets a lot of love and CD lamb makes a big impact and rookie season. I know it's hard for you to believe like right like they drafted CD lamb like this guy can't go ignored and so like Josh he kind of made it sound kind of like you know you're not sure how much he's actually GonNa get out of I'm kind of curious. Do you have a lot of this. Very now in this offense or do you think that he can't surpass any of these guys at all year one? CD lambs, crazy talented. As far as how he can call in this offense, I mean, it'll be interesting to see ovens. Weird factor in that is we're going to have an unprecedented offseason. So who knows how different rookies will just that teams are going to address utilization? Ricky's so for me this being a dynasty question. Is A good observation. His eighty is egregious dynasty I. Mean you're looking at player who just had a year to break out To been players that Abba your to break out and storage. Our guys that are going to be consistent long-term. With Gallo are more revolving around is cash rate and what I think he's going to moving forward in that offense. So last year, he saw hundred thirteen targets I think drops, I? Think he probably sees under a hundred targets this year and ultimately is catch rate. Last year was under sixty percent I don't know he's GonNa be a player that ever is above sixty percent catch rate. So if you're talking about a guy who droughts to under one hundred targets at a six percent country, well, you know he only had sixty six perception last year. So obviously because he's kind of a big play downfield receiver, he does have that central still have like thousand yard season based on those numbers. But ultimately, I think that's more his ceiling on his floor. So for me is a guy who In the short term concerned about as far as like his ceiling goes but all it takes an injury in that all Benson, he's shown these talented enough to handle value. So the second volume goes out I mean he's GonNa. Sees it. So he's still a guy there really like drafting it's just really a cost evaluation. I. Think it dynasty. It's definitely worth the cost because he has tom long term value. Yeah, and that's a dementia. New Contract hundred million. So he's not going anywhere. CD lamb just got drafted high draft capital. It's it's an explosive offense. You know one of the best offenses lead one of the top quarterbacks in the League you know. So no doubt can all three these guys contribute I think that ADP is definitely. Totally related to the fact that they have Amari Cooper distracted see lamb, and that's what all the excitement is at and You know people were probably hard pressed to put him above CD lamb right in dynasty. So or Bomar Cooper even so I mean, while thought justify he's probably agreed value at this point That's the only thing that can really make sense of it I mean you're all the weapons that are there at an you know high round receivers. As it's just kind of he's just kind of a victim of the situation I mean. There's nothing he really did that makes them. That low is probably just the excitement for CD lamb at how much they love Amari Cooper says what it is, but he's a great value for anybody then because of that so good question, good observation and thank you first question for the show. So we appreciate that let's over to fowler no foul and begin to wrap this show of this has been A. Contents failed episode man wire see represents on fire. Fowler no foul have three of them. For you guys I. One Josh Jacobs will have sixty receptions this upcoming season foul or no foul. Foul. All right. Moving on. Excellent. I mean come on this is just ridiculous. I. Mean Yes. His receptions you're going to go up yet you could have forty receptions he's not having sixty receptions like I mean Why why? Why you even start the number it's doesn't make sense I want his reception single. But like we got to be realistic about what he do in his second year and that all fence and I think for me, a realistic projection ended closer to forty. Maybe fifty sixty would be like US ceiling production. But this is the guy who in his rookie year had twenty seven targets and twenty receptions. So unless you think that his targets are going to quadruple, I, don't really know how you. See Him catching sixty balls but yes, see and for anyone interested he the reason I'm this is even on here is he was speaking to the press today and he did say that he's he is equipped from him. I kind of established aspect my game I feel like I want to improve that even more but also blocking I, WanNa put some of that on film also in I, want to catch least sixty balls this year I worked on a lot of things that receivers do not necessarily. Just running back routes whether it's getting off the line or how to stack on top when she give vertical and things like that I've been working all technical things I receivers do and just trying to implement that into my own style bring to the table. So he clearly has a personal desire for that. It's his goal whether the raiders make that happen. Obviously no one believes this point because that's everyone's be as knock on Josh. Jacobs but I mean I think we all should at least. Be Happy that he says he's working on it. We know the raiders have keep saying that he's GonNa get a lot of work at in that capacity So while most doubt it like you're like you're down to dissuade Adam I think there you know we should all these positive that you know there's a space there for an uptake hopefully, like you said in receptions because even just you know twenty more sanctions or fifty more receptions, importers, Josh Jacobs Gays and my vein so I think it's Something, not overlook while people think sixty is ridiculous. So That makes its Josh accents. And You're my sense check to check my sense with you. I feel like I'm up for that role I'm here. Since. He's full of nonsense. After Leonard, Burnett I have more faith in a running back being able to greatly increase in number perceptions in a game. But I still feel like it's more likely that Jaylen rashard onto. Gotcha Gotcha and again Lynn bound juniors they drafted him this year. He's a joker now hope possibly as what they say. So it's GonNa be you know fun game here going and the wide receivers dramatically improved if everything plays out as you will hope they expect Next. One. Renting out the last blockbuster on earth for a night would be amazing. Fowler. Novell. Ax airbnb this on the Internet, airbnb is actually renting out the last blockbuster earth really yeah. And I'm surprised. It's not at John Josh's town, but isn't a super lameck McClellan even have videos in there. It's in Oregon they made like this little bed like setup area. and. I. Think there are like tapes on the wall and I don't know if they're legit or whatever. But yeah, I, seen it on the Internet I thought this was interested in these one blockbuster left man airbnb is like, Hey, let's rent this shit out. So. Is it terrible geysers it amazing. Is like Webster I'm not GonNa lie, but renting it out and. Our people was her fan. You know. Isn't it? Funny that blockbuster didn't believe Netflix, was going to happen. That's like a a big one. That's one of those business example stories that people tell. Because like blockbuster. Oh this netflixing like fuck that shit ain't gonNA happen we're not. Getting. into. Blame blockbuster but I blame red box and I'm still angry that people buy from red this is me to it's so Anna quick. I hate red rocks he walks up that might. Sheen of movies when movies exist on the Internet, I don't understand. It just seems so silly. Yeah, those are going to be like the payphones of our day. Like when you really yeah, he is crazy that somebody came up with that as a business model Merz. Worked is they're still out there. Man People are still John. We have doing this man you know Josh uses it like the Stop doing that because we're making them uncomfortable it's. I. Read part but. I think people forget. It works. August. and. Then red box out and then Netflix. Of The you know what this is. This is my podcasts made for I gotTa look up the years that Netflix's started in comparison to the year that red box started because I almost guarantee Netflix's first and they were doing their mail subscription prior to any existence of breadbox. Definitely. Thing. Yeah. I don't feel like they had a market share of they definitely did. I'm looking I'm looking at the numbers we can move on I. Come back to this. I have one other found without and I'm just curious what you guys think. No question that Halloween will be cancelled this year due to Kobe founder of L.. And how God man what a bummer. I mean I. Guess you can wear a mass, but like it's GonNa get canceled their canceling everything, you can wear a mask under the mask. Yeah I mean the ask why don't we all just act like cove patients Halloween like Crazy. Like it's not like. His crazy man having us. Are you curious just how wrong you're? There is A. Meter gap in even the existence of the company's sorry. We're going back to Netflix's for. I. N Anti Thing at Netflix was there I'm just saying that red box had its moment in the sun and it was like a transition. I it was like it was like. Trying to take blockbuster customers off the nipple. Like if they weren't, if they weren't all the way adjusted to this new technology of getting, you know videos in the mail or you know movies in the mail, they had that little red box OAC retune like still feel like it's a tangible thing probably. and. Then they got weaned off and then I oh shit, I, watch all this stuff from my TV. Great. Awesome. Even. Now, when I think about it like getting movies in the mail, is Kinda strange man it's really weird a here. We're GonNa Watch that new movie like in four days when he gets here whatever like s kind of Weird Strange a strange game technology technology is moving. All right. So We're not renting the blockbuster out you guys don't believe Josh Jacobs get sixty receptions. And you guys feel like it said Halloween may not happen but we could run double masks and make this work. But who wants candy and people and? Person House has. Like is done dude that's not going to happen. Cowen. I think I think I'm still trick or treating own Oklahoma Bud. You've been just doing whatever you want the whole time we know it him and his. History neighbor for stuff guys. So we have invested in net flicks when red box started or you know I don't even like two thousand and ten you'd be rich. You'd be so rich it's insane. So, guys just because this. This is now a staff podcast in two, thousand and ten. You could buy Netflix's for ten dollars. It is currently trading almost five hundred. It is truly trading it over five hundred dollars and that's fifty times fifty times holy. Man. Who've? Right. Good. Times guys. Good Times but you guys using netflixing thousand of pretty sure. I was already feel dumb. I don't think. NETFLIX train Intel. Probably. Two Thousand Thirteen Yeah I. Mean you might be right. It might have been later like that but. Man I just remember having it prior to any online streaming just having the mail and service so. You had some of that Netflix stock your bank account right now would feel unlimited. That's all I. That's all I know. Let's get out of here. Guys show until the raptors bad way up hopefully you guys brought something to the table. We are going to share with you guys something that we love some that we want you to use a thought that we want to have whatever it is also at off Jeroen Experience Episode One, Thousand Five Hundred Twenty one which Josh I don't stupid and Jason Flom hope in. Their names right but they talked about like wrongful conviction cases and innocence project all these things I thought it was interesting. Obviously, it's a big issue in this country, and so you should listen just to educate yourself on it but I thought it was interesting because now you're vice president potentially Kamala Harris was talked about on the show and how she screwed allow people over and it was really. Dark weird stuff that she did and was a part of and it's important to note that they did say this is again this was before she was picked but they did say that if she was picked even with all these horrible things, they would still vote for her and Biden over trump That's that was their take So I mean you know it's as bad as you want to be I guess and depending on what's on the other side but yeah, I, just think it's a really important for you to listen to to know what's going on in this country educate themselves on it see how maybe they can help or contribute and just to kind of know how People work man that may be running this country. So again, not knocking anybody I'm just telling you to educate yourselves again it's episode one, thousand, five, hundred, twenty, one of the. Experience, Josh. I'm GONNA interrupt justice. Yours really quick there and I apologize to interrupt but that is nominal. Actually, I really appreciate you bring that up because we'd had a little bit of the discussion, the chat about the VP lacked and everything regarding that subject and that I cast does touch a lot of the things that I think are. Important to know about the the person who just got nominated vice president. So I think that that that August is fantastic as well. So having that was recommendation but debt Josh go right ahead. told me this the other day and it just kind of blew my mind? And is in mind is with a needs to and and order, and all the other case were outing assisting in this I heard was at of all. Rape. Were out there what what? Does people do you think to? The answer is to percents. I've heard some pretty historic like. Crazy statistics around that as well just involving sex fans because the vast majority go unreported in the ones that do doe reported gone convicted. The numbers are pretty staggering in. I. Don't I don't know this is this like. I I'm sure yourself. With two percent to get like drug into court or charged with something for maybe arrested but you're like the next. Emperor and were just telling yourselves like she's got an agenda or os probably consensual like. To. Cash Tag. fucked bobby right By the way for those who know you know? So listen we just we just hit two really important educational. Real Life Show Intel telecity. Adam. Are you going to pull a TRIFECTA here or you'RE GONNA change the Okay I. Figure James The Bible little bit I mean gotTa talk a little bit about the UFC giant event this weekend. So you have to fifty two's this weekend. It's literally going to be Daniel Formulas final fight for all intents and purposes. It's rubber mask for the heavyweight title. debuted beaten each other steep as the has the most wins as the heavyweight champion in the history of UFC Daniel cormier his only loss to St Bay as a heavyweight. So there's a lot of interesting dynamics. I think it's a huge fight. It's something that I've been excited for all year and one thing that I think it's just really been the case for me and I'll be interested to see if the case once football starts I'm always been a huge fan UFC. But I feel like sense the quarantine in the lockdown everything having the UFC. Stop for only stop for a really short period of time has for me personally helped by sanity through all this sports really big for me as far as like having consistency having something to look forward to in life is something that's really important to me in having events something that's really important to me. So I like having things like this where I know like this weekend, I'm going to watch fights basically all day unfortunately, not as much light to stupid sister had to have earth of. But like I'll still watch most of the heights. Ultimately Yeah I'm excited Baio seats fifty two but more than anything I'm just excited about. The. Idea of sports in having something to look forward to and how right now there's just so little of that without being able to go to any form events like I'm someone who into summer is those go to music festivals to concerts I live in Chicago and half the can't even go outside. So the Sunday, you're you want to constantly be doing things soon, not be able to do anything. Has Been Super Depressing. So one of the few things that has really brought to light to this overall depressing time has been events for me and the only advanced I've really had had been to you of C.. So I mean for a lot of ways this is something I. Really Look Forward To and You know anytime I can watch Sean o'malley fight I'm pretty excited as well. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah so a couple of things here Josh first of All Saints himself out during this pandemic man using. All wrong. So you don't even understand what you're talking about. Like man, you haven't seen anybody drop-off. Yeah you're not doing anything in the mean streets Oklahoma City Question. Who Do you have your money on though St? Bayer. Our, boy over there. Oh Man. Yeah I've been going back and forth on it I I know you're going to bet on right so now I might not Oh, I'm definitely going to bet on the fights might not on that specific fight I'm leaving steeper but I hate it I want me to win but. based. On that second fight being more indicative of what I think this is GonNa look like. I don't know most of the time when. high-level. Fighters Fight and. Fight a second time. The Guy who won the first time in the woman who won the first. oftentimes wins that second fight for to swung in the opposite direction makes me wonder if there was just stuff going on for that I fight that had been on a sharp or maybe the ball just at phenomenal and it literally can change. The blink of an eye. I don't know I think it's an extremely close fight, but improbably tation CPA but my heart wants Dan to win. He's so good for the sport and for him to win and go out like that would be phenomenal is tough because both people champs Siemian like Daniel Cormier as dude is good. Dewey looks like a regular guy and you got St, Bays another humble regular do and also firefighters. These are just two guys everyone roots for so Yeah. I understand it's tough. which way that thing goes you know how you feel about it. All, right that's all we have man. That's it s today show that was pretty long episode actually. Longest one of our longest late. 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NFL Coaching Changes, Fantasy Impact + Top Rookie Picks

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56:15 min | 1 year ago

NFL Coaching Changes, Fantasy Impact + Top Rookie Picks

"Hi, this is Kyle Rudolph. And you're listening to the fantasy football podcast. Well to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from pristine option dot com studios with your hose, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike, right? Welcome in. Another fabulous show about to begin fabulous. In important, as you know, look some of these offer announced. Well, pronounced Jason. Thank you important. Yeah. Today shows very very important as far as the season the elongated preseason shows go I would say this is up near the top near the pentacle. I disagree. We're going to go over all the coaching changes from this past off season. And we've seen the impact that one change at the top either in the offensive coordinator position or the recently and the head coaching position Chicago with Matt Nagy two years ago. Sean McVeigh it makes a humongous difference. You see players that were completely fantasy irrelevant. You remember the off season of what happened to tie girly is another Trent Richardson those words came out of people's mouths now. Look McVay gets a lot of credit. And of course, rightly so if Jeff Fisher just leaves that Rams team, and they are on coat. They're just there's nobody there. There's no head coach just how far between fishers Rams and McVeigh's they actually end up right in the middle. So what you're saying? Is if you're a perspective head coach candidate you want to look into place. I don't know like Zach Taylor going into Cincinnati. Yes. With the the shadow of Marvin Lewis and all those years there 'cause the disparity how good you look like, for example, Steve welk's in Arizona. He had to replace Bruce Arians. It didn't go. Well, didn't go well because the gap. I mean, you only went backwards very backward. Three wins replaced. Two thousand or something like that who just got another job. So we're gonna talk through all of them on the show today and breakdown how we see things playing out for twenty nineteen what it will mean for some of the players on each of these rosters, and you can find us on Twitter at the F F ballers follow Mike at f- f hitman. Oh, do it. See you should Jason is at Jason f do it. I was I was telling Jason he needs to follow me. Oh, never going to happen. You're verified now. So that's good. It's me for sure Andy Holloway. You can follow me the website the fantasy football dot com. We'll be updating a lot of stuff this off season getting new rankings up there. And that's where you can find the ultimate draft kit. You can subscribe to this podcast on apple podcast. You can listen ad freon Sicher premium you can listen on Spotify. Are I heart radio or you could watch it? That's really the best way to do it, certainly. And that is YouTube dot com slash the fantasy footballers. Subscribe click the bell, you'll know in new livestream. Things are happening. We're always here where a year round fantasy football podcast getting ready. If you missed the last episode, and you're a Commissioner, I encourage you to go back and listen there were five Commissioner tips at the end of that show. Got a lot of great feedback on them part of our job here is to help you have a better league. So you enjoy fantasy football more. Yes. And it's why we got into this. And to give you hot musical drops. Jason how just inflamed inflamed of were your mentions after all the b- boxing went. Yeah. I had like two people that were like, yes. The beat boxing was great. So I normally lit. I'm relive pretty lit you. I don't know if you want your I don't know if you want your your mentions inflamed or not I just. Don't you? Because you don't know anything. For that. Don't you know, that's engorged? I don't know. I know it's not. All right. Quick question of the day. All Dr Mike got a bold disk on my now. Time line. Brooks. If you need to leave I understand. All right. Okay. Thank you. If there's a door real close to you need to take off one day. I get it. All right post, combine quick question. Who is the one oh one right now in a dynasty rookie draft. No the draft hasn't happened. The NFL teams haven't selected anybody. But Mike you mentioned on the show Tuesday that you've bought maybe the first three or four picks. We're going to be wide. Do you think the number one pick is as of right now to me, it's an Akil, Harry and. I think that surprises people we talked about Metcalf on the combine show because he was the big story of a man who's literally they're all his body is made out of of muscles. He has actually no skeleton frame just muscle. His skeleton is made out of more muscles. They're making new textbooks based on this. This is how strong years he ran a four three three except he his agility drills wore close to catastrophic for especially compared to the the forty that. He just ran his production profile is down. He's actually a pretty raw receiver. He still going go very high in the first round Nikiel, Harry is if Metcalf weren't around Nicole, Harry would be the talk of the combine to me. And I think he'll end up at a at a good spot in is a little bit more well rounded wide receiver at this point. So I would take him with the first pick. But this this rookie class is very interesting. Thing because I feel like the last few years you knew who the first pick. Well, they didn't matter what you knew it was going to be saquon Barkley you knew a couple years ago. It's going to be Zeke. It doesn't matter where he goes, you know, who's going to be Leonard fournette too. Yeah. It was I would say it was pretty much assumed it was going to be him. But always knew what the top tier was this year. I we need to see how things she after the NFL draft. It could literally be one of six or seven different. They fall into the right spot. And they look best. I'm with Mike. I actually liked Nikki, Harry, the most he would be my one on one at the key is a good enough route runner so great yards after the catching go deep. He can box people out. He looks like a red zone. Perfect body type and target on those catas- it catches. So since we don't know where they're going. I'm gonna I'm gonna lean Nikial. And it's it's so ironic because the Magai yes, but I think decay Metcalf ago ahead of him in dynasty drafts. Because I think he'll be drafted that fairly, you know, probably ten or fifteen picks ahead and Aqeel, Harry, and the NFL I think so I wouldn't disagree and based on that fact, alone I think between combine hype and being higher the higher drafted wide receiver. I think that'll be enough to get him to that one to one spot, but we will see. You know, you put into keel in the right place or Akeem Butler or another one of these wide receivers and things change pretty quick. So big time news. All right. We ran the alternate draft kit pre-sale giveaway and that ended on March first now, you can still preorder the ultimate draft. In fact, you still get preorder bonuses bonus by ordering the ultimate draft kit, including bonuses on Shabaab dot com. Fantasy champ dot com, and it's still the lowest possible price, and you can get that ultimate draftking dot com. What is over with was your chance to preorder and enter to win the very first listener league spot. We also gave away to jerseys from fancy chance dot com, and we gave away a studio tour in sit in on the show. And I have those winners for you. You guys ready for can't wait to find out the jersey winners, David. Oh, man. Jason why don't you handle this? Oh, David Merrick call. It's thank you. Thanks borat. He became he went from what at the beginning of the name was American and then at the end of the name. He was certainly not. All right. And then you have. Michael Bailey, won another one of the jerseys and the studio tour, Oscar Florez, congratulations. Congratulations. And the big winner, the listener leak first entry, although all three of us are hey or century, or if you're listening right now, I just want you to know. I hope it's you listening at home right now. I hope you're the winner excited. It is gonna be you. John Kinser, John cancer. Congratulations. John welcome in. Now. We will let you know a little bit later in the off season when we will open up the interest spot the fifth spot and through through twelve and you guys can send in different stuff every year fourteen. It's a fourteen team at that's what I meant through fourteen though, we open it to twelve. And then eventually, we'll get thirteen fourteen. I've I follow you. I'm with you. Okay. All right. You've confused me. That's that's really what you've done there. But we will let you know how you can enter to win. Congrats to John and every other winter preordered the ultimate draft care right now. Alternate draft kit dot com, very excited working on the app working on custom scoring and all the great stuff, you know, and love from the ultimate draft kit will be in. Let's get into the news. News and notes from around the league presented by sleeper. Now. I mean, the headline news again we won another flag football game. Who that they call that a winning strengths two games in a row? Okay. I want to say extremely impressive. I believe I I came to the sideline after the game. And Jason's wife was able to come and watch watch Jason play. And she said to me, and I quote, you didn't suck. So and now I felt very calm that felt real good. That felt real good. And I did no look pass to Jason. Did he tell you this? Homes. Did he Mahomes Jason caught it went into the end zone. And then did a full on jet plane arms out sailing jet plink. I kind of I flew right through the the other guys on the other team. And the referee said excessive. Celebrate celebrate. Jim you got flag. No. He didn't flag just said that's excessive and I said it was still flying like an airplane is accessible I flew for a long time. I really long was circle in that it was on the other team overseas. This was a it was first class. My I told the referee to let them off the hook because he's thirty six years old. Yeah. So the funny part about it is my boy had football practice yesterday. And he busted off a huge touchdown run. He also turned into the airplane. He really I wonder where it gets it from on the I guess, we'll talk some. Hey, so that was for an extra point real quick. How many points did we win? By one nice that extra point that you score. All right. Antonio Brown the sweepstakes. They're heating up. It's heating up whatever you wanna say about Antonio Brown. The Steelers have begun telling teams that it's moving quickly and to give them their best offers. And the report we have as of now is that the jets and cardinals are out, and it could be wrapped up as soon as Friday the lack by the time. You're listening to this probably done I'll be done. But in the even newer report is is it's now a one team race allegedly. That's what's coming out the raiders in the raiders sounds. What's the latest debt? It's we're down to the one team. What team the rate while it's not being reported. It's that's not even I mean, that's not even a, wink. That's not good for the Steelers compensation. No, a one Toray or can run as slow as you want and win at a run one team race favorite kind of racist. Look, it's I think it's more of just that perhaps the. Deal is essentially done. They're just working out on finalizing a couple of things, but huge implicate aims. Like, he'll be a raider everybody that owns Antonio. Brandon dynasty or keeper league. You're waiting to hear what team it is. And this is huge. This is huge for the Steelers offense. I say what you will about blonde mustaches and strange videos in all the peripheral on the field. Antonio Brown's the difference maker for fantasy football owners. Yes. And so we will have a lot to talk about if this breaks before or you know, before this show was released. We'll talk about it on the next show. Yeah. It's we'll break it all down in the raiders is it's not my favorite landing spot. 'cause I dare car is. But Derek Carr has sustained higher level fantasy wider series. If you. Yeah, he ain't we're just a couple of years removed from IKEA Crabtree. Being great for your fans and Derek Carr being an MVP candidate. Yes. Through the beginning of the season, hyper target one person. Yes. He O'neil Brown. Could get hyper Tarya, he will request it. He will meet man you start to look at the teams with younger quarterbacks. And you just wonder do even want him in the locker room. Do you? Would you want Antonio Brown going into the New York Jets locker room year to Sam darnold and saying obviously it helps him darnold from a like on the field. You would think it would help him. But you had situations early in the career of Tony Romo where you know. It's like te'o every play once the ball, and it's just an interesting decision for GM. Yes. It is. All right. The chiefs are discussing record-setting deal with contract year wide receiver tyreek hill tyreek hill earned it. That's what I will say he did. And how does this make you feel about tyreek and dynasty? Easy implications for Mahomes. I mean, you've got to feel great, right? Yeah. He's a top five guy for me. All right. I know thoughts. Jason no same scraped news for every Kansas City chief player their dynasty outlook, all of that little bit of news as well about the colts Sposato in strong pursuit of tyrel Williams. I've seen Tiro Williams attached to the raiders as well. Yeah. You if they get Brown. I don't I wouldn't think they're gonna go after tyrel ice. I spoke to exist. It's I'm gonna awfully let's do this. Let's predict right here right now on the show where we think Antonio Brown's going if it's the raiders that's fine with it. I'm either leaders you're going raiders you Jay's want the Niners. I think the raiders I believe it'll be Tennessee. Nice. I think it'll be the Tennessee titans. Interesting. Yeah. I have not heard that at all. I heard a little bit. Yeah. So that was today's news and notes, look if you hate your fantasy app got a solution for you. Download the best one the best free fantasy app on IOS and Android. The sleeper app. You get those news reports you find out where Antonio Brown is a essay p he gets ready to talk about some coaches. Yes. Coaching carousel. Yeah. Other the nice part about that is there's actually somebody in the room today. Who knows that Omar's? Unlike the uncultured swine who sit before me, you're correct. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to think about it. But I will say it wasn't quite the beat boxing boxing experience. We had yesterday. But that's a good thing. All right last year. I don't know. I've heard a lot of chatter. For commits tips. Seven coaches were on the carousel last year this year seven head coaches once again making making their way to the top of the ladder. Let's start in Arizona. Let's talk about cliff Kingsbury replaces Steve Welk, Steve Wilks got a one year. Try Mike McCoy bad higher and higher. They fired a mid season seems like a big part of Steve Wilks undoing. Let's talk a little bit about cliff kingsborough you've had this trend in the NFL. We're gonna talk about Zack Taylor in Cincinnati. Some of these younger coaches, maybe they've been quarterback coaches. Maybe they've been in the Sean McVay tree cliff Kingsbury comes from college. It's a surprising higher. I glance got fired from his college al-madhur and took an offense coordinator job at USC, which he then quit to get a head coaching gig in the NFL. Yeah. And some things you need. To know about cliff Kingsbury, he's a younger coach he was somebody that coached Pat Mahomes during his time at Texas tax. We as experienced, and you know, you're going to hear the air raid. Offense a lot, and I'm going to just summarize what you need to know about the air raid offense as fast as I possibly can you understand? So when we talk about this for the next five years as the NFL tries to perpetuate the collegian game in the NFL you understand it a little bit. And really this came out of the the most historical example is Mike Leach ran the air raid and a lot of the coaches underneath him including cliff Kingsbury run the air raid. It's it's it's long considered an offense in college that doesn't work in the pros. But in recent years you've seen success from quarterbacks like Baker Mayfield. Case keenum ran a air raid offense, by the way, cliff Kingsbury was an assistant coach on a Houston team. The case keenum ran that offense in Nick foles ran in. An air raid offense and won a Super Bowl a couple years ago. So it's essentially it's an offense as predicated on passing the ball ton. There's a lot of simplicity about it. And a lot of the question marks around running that type of offense in the pros has to do with. Hey in college. You don't have as many elite athletes that can react quickly. You put people in a position to run four verticals up the field. And normally somebody finds a way to be open and another thing that happens in college. He might not realize is the hash marks are much farther apart. Right. So we're the ball gets spotted on the left or the right side. There's a lot more room in college. The hash marks are tighter in the NFL. And so there's some question is can this work in the NFL game. We're seeing teams moved to this to the more exotic exciting non smashmouth pass. Heavy coach rule changes in the NFL Lynn themselves to protecting the the quarterback position. Right. I really want someone to get hired and they labor. Will their offense. Coach explain how d- run things I run a non smashmouth. That's right. Non smashmouth ovens and posted Jason with the fidora, which is very very very Menashe rouse different kind of smash mouth, but different kinds walking on the. This is this is good news for fantasy obvious. Great news for David John's. That's the player that I wanted to bring up. This David Johnson didn't lose anything last year. He looked great on film. He clocked in fast. He was just constantly running right up the middle. He wasn't involved in the screen game nearly enough. Specially the first half of the season while Mike McCoy was there under clicky lost. A lot of fans when you say it didn't lose anything. I think he lost a lot of football. Phase certainly lost a lot of fantasy football fans a lot of belief in the fantasy community, but he didn't lose anything from his skill set his athleticism yet he still only twenty seven years old. So he should be fine. But under cliff Kingsbury since two thousand four in his air raid system, the running back receiving game has been really really important. I've seen some reports saying, oh, you know, here's the the main running back. He wasn't used that much in the passing him. And that's just that's just inaccurate the sixth most targets, the six months, receptions. Fifth most receiving yards and six most first downs in college in NC double A under since two thousand fourteen hundred cliff Kingsbury. Yeah. And a lot of why people look at the air aid, and they they worry about or or maybe you look at his history. His record right at Texas Tech, six seven six five and seven six and seven five and seven before he was fired. Look as is sucked. Exactly nance. My point a lot of times air rate is looked at as, hey, here's a chance for two teams to go up against each other. And the game seventy to fifty five, you know, it's these high scoring games if you put a person like oh. That's fair. That's fair. But if you put them in a position where they brought in Vance Joseph in Arizona. The hope is you go up on the offense of side you improve the defense over what it was last. You put Patrick Peterson Chandler Jones in a good position. This is the Raham stretch. It is the ranson. Everyone wants to be the Rams and have McVeigh. It's just hard to replicate. Although you did see last year big improvements on the offensive side for Maggie more. Innovative offenses are coming and other things you want to add there. I mean, what if Carla marines up in Arizona? I mean that is the the rumored. If Cuyler Moore is up in Arizona Cuyler Murray specifically for his value fantasy value. It would be enormous for Cuyler Cuyler would be a rock star for fantasy football because Cuyler needs a certain system that can utilize his skill set period and not every coach in the NFL can do that. But cliff Kingsbury could he literally tried to recruit him out of high school into the college ranks, and they're they're they've got a good relationship. So I think that would be huge for Cuyler. I don't know that that would be really an improvement for there FitzGerald for FitzGerald and the passing weapons or not. But but Cuyler would get used the right way. Are there any concerns that you would see a situation where he comes in the offensive line's not strengthened enough, and you have kind of the Lamar Jackson impact on the passing game? He's a better pass within the as a better passer. All right. Zach Taylor taking over the Cincinnati Bengals job. Finally, someone replaces Marvin Lewis Zach Taylor. The quarterback at university of Nebraska in two thousand five and two thousand six long coaching history. Quarterbacks coach in Miami quarterbacks. Coach in Los Angeles last year comes from the McVeigh lying, many edge and the age, he's he's a young lad. Yeah. What thirty six years old thirty five years old? He's thirty. He'll be thirty six in may. So. What are we looking for? When you talk about. Andy Dalton assuming he remains the quarterback AJ Green's return tie the Boyd, and then Joel mix in his evolution his growth as a as a young fantasy star. Again, I would lean to the running back as the biggest winner because you've got a guy in Joe mixon who could catch the ball. So well that was one of his largest strengths coming out of college who was used a little bit in the passing game. But can be used so much more essentially exactly what you saw from Todd Gurley going from the forty reception count to the sixty reception count. When you brought in a more often of mine a guy getting your best player the ball and space. Yes. So I think that it's it's huge news in the positive for Joe mix. And who's got every chance to be a top ten top five back and fantasy this. It'll be interesting to see just how much does he take away from his time with Sean McVeigh because if you look at the Rams, they don't have an alpha number one wide receiver. They have an excellent core. And all of those guys are useful robber woods Cooper Cup. I mean, these guys are useful for Brandin cooks. Of course. But for fantasy purposes none of them are elite level wide receiver ones like AJ green. So for me, it's hopefully solidify solidifying the fact that Tyler Boyd is going to be usable off of his breakout. He's not I'm not on boy to wide receiver one. But they spread the ball out enough that that these other guys these these exhilarate guy. Is pass catchers for the Bengals it'll be used the used more than they have in the past. Well, maybe I mean, something good for John Ross. And I think you kind of had you have out here in Cincinnati. If there's anything we've learned about that organization is they are willing to be patient sixteen years without a playoff win under Marvin Lewis Zack Taylor will have time. Now, the the question is whether he can transition any Dalton into his future. He's only thirty one years old or whether they're going to struggle this season. And then you'll look at more of the rebuild reconfigure aged green might not be a part of that future. Andy Dalton might not be a part of that future. We'll have to see what happens last year. Joe mixon of the more consistent runners over the last ten games of the season. Zack Taylor again can only help. I think in this situation to have a fresh mind and mixon's ability to catch the ball bodes. Well. All right. Freddie kitchens is officially taking over for Hugh Jackson. Greg Williams that combination last season. Freddie kitchens took over after week eight as the offense coordinator in Cleveland. And look the the match was a good one between Freddie, kitchens and Baker Mayfield. Yeah. It was. It was great. Baker really flourished under that system over the final eight games bakers pass attempts actually went down. But as passing yards went up and he went up a full touchdown a game. Now again that he's he's a rookie. So maybe we're just seeing the natural progression of him as the season goes along. But there was a big shift for the Cleveland Browns. Offense wants Freddie, kitchens took over obviously, they've they liked what they saw enough to give him the head coaching job. They talked with Baker about do. We wanna bring Freddie kitchens in Baker signed off your franchise quarterback was good with it thing. This is is great news for the Cleveland Browns. Yeah. I I would expect to see more of the same of what you saw the second half of last year, which was great great for the running back scrape for Baker Baker is gonna take a huge step forward this season going into year two. I think you can you can like the Browns all the way across the board. Even drivers Landry. Yeah. I mean, I think one of the things you're going to see them do is add to the wide receiver a big way they need help at the wide receiver position. I doubt Persad pyramids back. He was a bit part player. Antonio Calloway has plenty of the up and down problems and this Jarvis Landry. And I think you're gonna add a big name. I don't know who that'll be. I saw the Drammen harm in saying that they needed more smoke in the engine for the Baker smokey John Brown. Wow. Wow. Okay. Wait Harmon wit with that joke. I believe it was. Yes, that's very authority and one hundred percent man, Harman's fault that joke because what we're saying. I love as a great show as a great joke. Oh, okay. So you're giving him credit? And that's why he's in. That's a dead joke. Ted Mahnken was the offensive coordinator in Tampa Bay takes over as the offensive coordinator under Freddie kitchens. The last two years and Tampa third most pass attempts fourth most pants attention. There are questions here yards area. Shirt Baker thumbs up. But does that hurt somebody like Nick shop? If the office becomes more pass attempt. Heavy somebody like cream home. Once he comes off, the I don't think it'll be past attempts heavy, I don't I don't think we'll skew too much like I said baker's attempts went down. I know that Mahnken is they had to throw the ball a lot. I think that's more. A that was a result of Tampa Bay's defense that was their defense and their and they didn't they personnel. And did they have to run the ball? Now, you've got two great running backs on the same roster. Not really not that the Browns have some great defense. All right. Anything else? You wanna add on note on there? All right, Vic Fangio taking over as the. Denver head coach for placing Vance. Joseph Vance Joseph now the defensive coordinator in Arizona, Vic Fangio along coaching career. He he had a very nice season as the defensive coordinator in San Francisco, actually, really three really strong years between twenty eleven in two thousand thirteen and then last year absolutely dominant as the DC in Chicago with Cleal MAC number one in points against number one in rushing against the run, and they were number three against the total yards given up what does the impact event Vic Fangio taking over in Denver mean for the offense. And and what is the variable of new head coach mean for players with low draft capital like Philip Lindsey. So for Philip Lindsey in particular. It's you just have to be on watch. You you have to assume he will get the starting job one. He had it last year. So they've they do have film on him film. Lindsey had a complete. Uphill battle through training camp was able to beat out third round Royce Freeman. So theoretically, you would think that he is the guy, but you have to at least have some pause for concern that the like the total work low the total work share the timeshare. We'll be split up a little bit heavier in favor of Royce from it. So that's that's the biggest concern. What's nice for Denver is with the o sea change made? It's it's Kyle Shanahan zone. Run system and Kyle Shanahan system. Turns schmucks in two thousand yard rushers. So you gotta feel very bullish about the the Denver Broncos running game. It's gotta figure out how how much is Phil boons are going to be used as you're going to be worth that third round pick that he's probably going to cost and fantasy drafts. Yeah. I think that's the question. He's somebody that you're making a bet on you can either trade him at the value. He's established himself on in like a dynasty league. Or you buy into the Shanahan system. You buy into the fact that John Elway is absolutely in love with this kid in wants to make both film. Lindsey an Royce Freeman the crux of that offense. Throw them the ball out of the backfield both of them. So it just kind of depends on which way you're looking. This via defensive team. They got Joe flacco behind center now as well. Yeah. I mean, look, it's it's weird. Because usually when you have a head coaching change, they they break, the mold, you know, if if you had a real players coach, you know, you get more of a of a hard line, man. Right. If you've got a defensive coach, go offense offense defense, you know, this is kind of like just slightly tried to upgrade like like this defensive coach, I want someone with a little bit more experience. But there's not much experience on the offensive side of the ball. And I worry that there's not much talent on offense of side of the ball specifically behind the center, and that's my worry way. My my worry is that the quarterback offense of coordinator, you know, the run also behind the center, technically. But when you add them with the quarterback, and then I would say call the the guy that shoots the ball out of his, but yes, censor guy. Yes. That is why son called me. Yes. Last night's game. Because I am the guy that shoots the ball out of his butt. Yeah. We got in the car after the game and my seven year olds asking the positions. I'm the quarterback in Jason's the guy that shoots the ball at his but. Yeah. Pass back half Grech what shooters my God. Oh, that's just my my my my my ten year old my ten year old instead of saying center, you go he's very, you know, correcting the seven that's the snapper. That's the snapper. Though. So the but snapper near the butts Napper. I think I think I'm going to stick with the guy that shoots the ball out of his butt. That's my position. But my whole point here that I was actually making is that I do have worries for the Broncos offense as a whole what they can't be any worse than last year because the toseh- now, I know, but whenever you get a change just excited for change. And I'm saying, I don't think the changes are good here. Good enough to make these pieces really value. Emmanuel Sanders saying around helps is long as if he sure that goes for all players. It's just as well not all players are coming off of late in their career. Achilles tears. You don't think I mean? But it wouldn't it wouldn't re reopen. Right. I mean, they wouldn't keep them there. They'd cut him. Well, I didn't believe he was going to be fine leave he's paying for no reason. But he's not fine yet. So the canton, no. All right. Matt leflore is replacing Mike McCarthy in Green Bay. This is the off season of. I don't know. I I guess change the off season of what has been with the old in with the new and what has been for for a long time. The the patients ran out, right? Matt Lefort, by the way, thirty nine years old was the offensive coordinator for Tennessee. Lot of excuses made for that offense over the last couple of years on the fact that look Marcus mariota banged up almost constantly on the floors. Got a little bit of that McVay dust on his shoulders to does he still he still there? And so he'll take over in Green Bay Nathaniel Hackett moves over at offense coordinator, what are they? How does this guy? Keep getting jobs. I don't know. It's ridiculous. The or what are you doing Nathaniel Hackett was the offense coordinator in the in Jacksonville? Blake bortles. Number five overall offense told a points. I mean, that's that's his resume. And there's a history there between those two guys too. So what are you looking at from Atla floor is this a season where Aaron Rodgers at thirty five years old, by the way, just four years younger than Matla floor is this a season where he's going to be undervalued underrated and outperformer expectations because he's wanted to be liberated from the Mike McCarthy playcalling he's wanted to be put in a position where he can, you know, go out and do what he does from from a projection standpoint, I'm pretty much leaving Aaron Rodgers where he's been. I know there's a lot of changes. But we can't anticipate exactly what those are. I just have to believe he's a hall of fame caliber quarterback his rookie wide receivers will be better. I actually think they're going to bring someone in in free agency at the position as well. So I, you know, I think you have to go status quo. Now is he a value? He could he could. Still be value because he's not going to be the first quarterback taken off the board. So he will inherently drop a little bit from last year. I'm not drafting him because you put way too much capital in a onesie position. Where you only need one guy. The the thing this is kind of similar to some of these other teams the one area where I think there's a huge improvement is the running game Hackett and the floor have consistently had teams that are higher ranked in rushing attempts. They want to get that part of the game going Green Bay was dead last in rushing attempts last season lowest in their franchise history. So when it comes to now, they're going to use a committee. Yeah. They've he's already talked about fifty fifty right? And that's fine. Because if you I mean, if you look at the split last year, it was a committee last year as well. And now you're gonna probably add one hundred carries total on the season. So I- into I'm sorry. Go ahead. I think someone like Aaron Jones is going to be a value this year. And you've mentioned that before and you could be right. I don't necessarily buy into the historical assessment of Daniel Hackett and the rushing attempts. The teams that he was the office coordinator four didn't have Aaron Rodgers or anything close to it. This the necessity of avoiding like, you don't bring in a guy to be the new head coach of Aaron Rodgers and turn them into a running football team. No Rogers won't accept that. Sure. But look look at win leflore was with the falcons win. Matt Ryan was having the MVP season went to the Super Bowl. They were still a very balanced team. Devante Freeman and Tevin Coleman got a lot of carries. That's more of the model that I see here versus what we saw in Tennessee. Does that concern you at all? Then for rhyming. You're saying Rogers is a value. But the reason why Rogers was not the fantasy superstar last year came down completely to red zone. Attempts. And are you concerned that they get in the red zone? Maybe they're going to try and call in some runs a little bit more. I you know, it's it's hard to say the red zone attempt number being low isn't just because they it's certainly not because they ran the ball in the red zone. It's because they weren't in the red zone as often as usual. So if they can move the ball between the twenty s a little bit better start down number can go up. And and I don't think Aaron Rodgers is a value in a draft at all. Because I think he's a terrible pick. That's the opposite of a value. But I think he is going to be more value than he usually is for those people out there that draft Aaron Rodgers every now you shop to like when you're target something's value or like your wife. Grabs a shirt twenty-five. Terrible pick yet. You're darn right. It's worth noting that Matlock floor is calling place. It's not Nathaniel Hackett. It'll be Matt the full calling plays. Was office coordinator in Los Angeles two years ago, Tennessee last year, number one in points during his his time in Los Angeles with McVeigh. All right, Brian where he was calling plays where he wasn't gonna reckless. Yes. Brian Flores, replacing Adam gays Miami has a new head coach. Not to be whole, hopefully. He was the linebackers coach head of twenty sixteen for the patriot. And this is a whole patriots squad now down in Miami. As the bridge, the big news of this is not Flora's because he's the defense of mine is the new newest OC Chatto shea who was the patriots wide receiver coach for a very long time. And if you research it all for O'Shea, he is at least join Ataman gives them the credit of turning Eto in from a cornerback or quarterback into the wide receiver that he is today. So it's very interesting to see what what Ochej is going to do. I really like how he talks about fitting his system to what his players can actually do. So that speaks very much to you're not be whole comment where you have these coaches like, it's my way if you don't like you get out you go at you maximize. Your players can do and just what the patriot system then that's what he is bringing down. He's talked about that the patriots passing system Albert Wilson. Very interesting. Very interesting to me as a later round guy. If if he in fact can become the focal point of this offense. It's funny. You mentioned the building an offense run your players strengths or vice versa. Because I feel like a lot of the coaches they got fired where ones that failed to after their player strengths because dumb. Why? I mean the pattern Peterson defense in Arizona. All good. What Steve Wilks did? This is my system you're gonna run to my way, it's going to work instead of hey, let's let's accentuate the greatest players on our roster. Yep. So hopefully, oh, shaking get that done. Okay. So just gonna need some great players on us roster that that does feel like the problem. Like, okay. So our system is we're gonna suck. Sorry. Dolphins fins up. You're going to get. Some hate online. No. But the fact that Albert Wilson who flashed last year? Yeah. We'll also severely hurt got himself her and he is a good player. We ain't enough. And devante Parker should be out the door. And we don't know who the quarterback is going to be or the running back K them Balazs Kenyan Drake somebody else. So there I feel like is. It's kinda putting the car before the horse to speculate on that offense because they do need to fill a lot of holes on the offensive side of the ball. No more Ryan tannehill. So. Yeah. I mean, it's going I it's probably a transition in Miami. It's a little scary that you're you're taking. Yeah. Mike, Mike, you're taking multiple ski. Oh, no. No, no. Yeah. Don't come around with this. Can we get a ruling from the judge cronk sickie? The last thing you want to do as associate gronk with somebody right now the way that he performed for you. But you know, Florez has been a longtime linebackers coach you've got a longtime wide receivers coach. And I realized they got a little bit more experienced last year. But this is really like a I don't know, you know, inexperienced at the top. They're not used to running or organization, and then it's like, okay, you're calling plays your craft in everything you're doing it all and you don't have the best group players to do it. With just seems like a difficult situation to be in for these guys. All right, Adam gays, you're still job. He heads to New York to take over as the head coach of the jets replaced Todd Bowles they go from defensive-minded head coach to offensive minded head coach somebody to come in. And by my estimation. This is all about bringing in somebody to mold and form and build Sam darnold into a next level quarter. Yes, if you wanna know how good Peyton Manning was you just look at the hiring in two thousand eighteen nineteen of Adam gays coming into mold your quarterback because Adam gays was really really good. When he had Peyton Manning. He has not had a top twenty oftens cincy had Peyton Manning. Third seventeen twenty pita giving them jobs. I don't know. But here's what I do know Dowell loggains the office of coordinator who's coming alongside. I I think Adam gates looks really smart next Dowell loggains who is terrible everywhere. He's. Sean. I mean, you're talking Tennessee, Chicago, Miami always been a bottom half offense. It's tough. It's tough in the streets here. I if you listen to Adam gays during his very peculiar press conference. He talks a lot about the fact that you know. They struggled metrics wise because they had to do what they needed to do to win games. Now, you can look as opposed to as opposed to running as many plays or stretching out the offense or putting up more yards. That's the argument. He's may is because he did find. Here's the thing. That's in his corner. He won more games than I thought. He'd win with that roster. One hundred he made the playoffs with the Miami Dolphins and Ryan tannehill flash. Who is ten hills backup rock NAT more that more the yes, ma'am. And so he want he found a way to win game credit is due there. And if you're Miami or a New York Jets fan that's good that that's coming. I right. You he has a team. You wanna win not just put up stats but for fantasy, and that's all I care about. I worry, you know, he hasn't produced a lot of good offense of metrics. And yeah, yeah. Without Peyton Manning ever. Well, he's talked already about making Quincy noon while a more of a giving him more opportunity in the offense. You've got Robbie Anderson likely to be back. Sam darnold evolving. He he flash last year. And so you do have some optimism with an offensive minded head coach and a lot of cap room that this offense could improve and take a step for. And it's interesting because it's kind of like Miami sends Adam gays to New York in their division. Brian Flora's comes from New England and lands in Miami in the division. This rotation of teams competing to be second to the patriots is very interesting, right? Yeah. Bruce Arians is back. Oh, bruce. Use Nikki snook replaces Dirk cutter siring, you know, as a cardinal fan who had to endure last season this really hurts. Yeah. Last Palmer's retiring metoo last season is why he retired Carson Palmer's coming back. He's a new quarterback for the Tampa Bay. Buccaneers. Look. He's got a great situation here. Bruce Arians goes to a team with a ton of weapons. Bruce Arians on talent, great offense of mind, who I believe is going to absolutely get the most out of Janus Winston. I think he's a better coach than Dirk cutter. All the way across the board both offense of Lii and as a head coach as a players coach players really love him. I remember watching the hard knocks and seeing the relationship between Dirk cutter and James Winston and just going like, yeah. It didn't it didn't look like we had years in Arizona with Bruce Arians where you watched the relationship that Bruce has with his players where he could tell them the hard stuff. He needs tell them. But that's because you know, the love is there and the support is there Tampa is going to be very happy with Bruce Arians. And I think fantasy players are going to be super happy with Chris Godwin with Mike Evans with the entire passing attack. Bruce Arians has had a top fifteen top fifteen passing offense every year since two thousand nine he is he is completely unafraid to take the reins off the talent he has and Chuck it up there. Look, I you know, he's going to do what he does. And it's been very good for fantasy players. Right. Very interested to see who gets this starting running back job. Yeah. It's going to it's going to matter a lot. Yeah. Donald Jones get another opportunity might you shouldn't is going to be really really tough really tough for Ronald Jones to get out there. Did you say he shouldn't correct? Because I don't think he's good. Man. I'm not saying like the human doesn't want a ten twenty three attempts in the NFL on team mostly. Well, look on a disaster of an office. Twenty-three attempts lock it up. It's is is over. He's a smaller back similar to Bruce Ellington, right or Andre Ellington. Andre Ellington was very successful with but Ellington can pass exa- and even more important to catch the ball. He was a great back for that system. I I don't I don't see that. In the skill set of Ronald Jones so far in his career from high school on. Okay. All right. I won't linger. All right team offense, coordinator changes. I'm going to mention them. All you guys jump in with the most significant important ones in your mind dirt Qatar taking over the office coordinator job was the offensive coordinator in Atlanta. Now, he returns and takes over that job takes it away from Steve Sarkissian, Greg Roman. Now the new offense coordinator in Baltimore Kellen Moore taking over in Dallas. That's a pretty surprising move Daryl Bevill taking over in Detroit. Formerly with the Seahawks Curio on. And John de Filippo. Jacksonville. Yup. His taking a shot. Kevin Stefanski registered I laugh because the guy who got fired midseason is taking over for Nathaniel Hackett who should not have another job. It's just it's just rotating years rotations. It's garbage Arthur Smith taking over in Tennessee, Kevin O'Connell in Washington. Arthur. I've got a plan. Yeah. We'll see our more times. I mean, Dirk koetter is kind of the most interesting one because you know, this is a team that had success under him multiple years s great news for Matt Ryan because we've seen inconsistencies win. These changes have happened for Matt Ryan, this is a a change. But it's one where it's not as abrasive. Yeah. They're they're used to working with each other. Most of the players on this team were there. In fact, I would say if anything the team is slightly better as they've upgraded, you know, with Zanu and Calvin Ridley giving them a little bit better passing options. So I liked that one of the names. I wanted to bring up was Greg Roman. Yep. Greg roman. Look he has gotten the most out of his rush out of out of the running game year after year after year as an offense coordinator with San Francisco as an. He had tyrod. And that's the thing is his team rushing. Attempts were unbelievable because he is good with Russia quarterbacks. And now he's going to a team with Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson is going to get a lot of work on the ground. I mean, that's no surprise. But he has an offensive coordinator who and they talked about rebuilding this offense four Lamar Jackson. And I think they brought in a good coach with experience with you know, rushing quarterbacks specifically talented Russian quarterbacks that they're going to succeed. I I really think this is a good a good higher ingred in this. Usually like, I don't even Jackson. Yeah. Definitely for the standpoint of his fantasy points and the standpoint of winning games in Baltimore. Good higher. I still don't I like, Jordan. Lastly, and and you know, maybe the passing game can take a step up in your to. But my belief is not. Strong there at all Philly. We're waiting last year for that big. Lamar Jackson explosion game. We never gone. It. Never got through the area mean. Did just enough fantasy points. I mean, just production-wise. You never really had a big game. He never had a thirty plus point game. You never as consistently a top quarterback twelve. So he was a QB one. But yeah, ever exploded didn't have the Josh Allen games where it was insane. Yeah. I, you know, one of the games where he runs like he always runs but then throws two touchdowns. It just never happened. Kellyn more takes over Dallas gets back Jason Witten. Dak Prescott gets a chance to again. This is a very young offense coordinator replaces Scotland, a this is I mean the way that I see this is Brian Byron left, which this is the head coach taking a player and saying I'm gonna give you experience and he's going to get it for a year. And when this whole coaching staff is replaced at the end of next year. Kelham more will have had some experience. In the meantime for twenty nineteen. I mean, it is really surprising to throw him into the office of coordinator role. I don't think he'll be doing the play calling not even thirty years old. Yeah. It's so I mean. Usually I look at stuff like this. And I think it's gonna go poorly. But these are the type of moves we'll say, and I I think that now more is a winner j I know you like winners, I do like winners. I is a win the last name more. I mean that's two for two. How do you not like this guy? No, I do like L Amore pets enough. Darrelle babble you mentioned what that Abbas to run establish the run. It's comedic, right? But it's not because it wins games. At one games in Seattle. Last year. Darrell Belleville comes into Detroit. And you you mentioned carry on Johnson's name. There's an opportunity there for a healthy carry on Johnson to really take advantage of wasn't a system. Bevo was Seattle a couple years ago back when they had marshawn Lynch, and he was Minnesota with Peter and through two thousand seventeen year right now season but last season, Brian it were Heyman and did the same thing. Yes. It's just funny to we'll see I think carry on's going to get a lot of work. Yeah. When when he was with Seattle, and the thing is I fully see the fact that carry on will be part of a committee, but he will be a much bigger part. And there's going to be such a large pie of rushing attempts here in Detroit this year, the carry-on will be great. I know they're gonna sign someone or draft someone they're going to bring him in and people will be. Frade not this guy carrying will be great. Keep trade cut pie cake cookies. Oh, sweet mercy. You know, what I'm keeping the cookies. Yeah. Fresh chocolate cookie. And it's just it's so portable like agonists can grab him go. Yeah. I'm it's a cake. Now, are you? Are you a cookies with milk? I don't have. I don't have to you. Don't have nobody has to about living your best life. Would you prefer it? Yes. Okay. Yeah. I would write their rich. I need something to cleanse my ally. Drew, Mike, I'm going to keep the cookies, and even though I really better than pi pi think, we'll have more trade value. So I'm gonna end up having a cake and trade pie cakes have the widest range of outcomes. I feel like because you can get real you can get a dry cake. You can get a cake with too much of the cake too little the icing or bad frosting that out outta here. Bad fuzz thing cake. I mean, like the warm cakes. They have. Cold. Thanks. I love cakes. I took it. It's more of a key show me look at me. It's more of a keep keep keep things. No. But but but pies, I guess pumpkin pies a coal pie. I was thinking of the fruit pies when they're cold. They're not good banana cream pie. Do you like the fruit pies? I'm not a big fruit pie. Lemon meringue. I'll do like keep keep keep. I'll do an apple here. Keep came. Yeah. All right. We're moving on. Oh, you saints fans out there. Listen to this yesterday on per Steen auction dot com. Michael Thomas, signed New Orleans, Saints jersey, a Beckett witnessed authentic autographed. Jersey sixty four dollars fifty one cents. Ladies and gentlemen. Look pristine auction. The got hundreds of new things up every single day. Now is the time people because the public mind is awful football right now, you're getting great deals. Michael Thomas, signed jersey for sixty four bucks that is truly insane. When when he read it I had not seen that. And my eyes went that. That's crazy. That's a typo or something. And this is the part of the show or Iran's listening start crying. 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Baker Mayfield, NCAAFB, LeBron James, and NFL chances

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

1:54:12 hr | 1 year ago

Baker Mayfield, NCAAFB, LeBron James, and NFL chances

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Joel Klatt and I will argue about the college. Football Ball committees newest top four. I agree with it. I'm sure he won't joy Taylor joining me joy. How are you today in great? Bring your from in Pittsburgh tomorrow the steelers who have once again proven culture matters in the NFL right. No big band. No lay beyond no A. B. and they are a playoff op team today against Cleveland which has been a mess and I want to start with that because it has been now. I counted this morning seven straight weeks. That there's been a mini controversy or a distraction during a browns game and it's almost always them talking about last week's game as the steelers are coming up their rival Avalon a short week on Thursday. Now I'll get. I'll get to the bites by Baker Mayfield which he should not talk about it but we'll get to that in a second but it's funny about the NFL. It changes really fast really really fast. I want you to think about this ten games ago end of last year Baker Mayfield Afield mania hit the NFL because of two big games against Awful Cincinnati where he had seven touchdowns and no pets and I kept saying he's short. He's not getting taller. He's not athletically dynamic. That's not going to change. And he's cocky and I don't think that's what the best quarterbacks of my life are slowdown. Everybody he's GonNa face much better teams and coaches next year. Ten Games later from Baker Mania Lamar Jackson's clearly not the most dynamic quarterback in the class and may end up getting many many. MVP votes cuyler. Murray you're not watching them in. Arizona is a dynamic democ much better athlete than Baker much better accurate thrower than Baker and doing amazing things with far less talent than Baker Baker's now going to be on his fourth head coach in two years according to reports Freddie Kitchens in trouble his accuracy his eroded. We have two of the greatest this quarterback prospect they say you know in a decade coming into the NFL next year. Forget Joe Borough and just in Herbert who are six borkum throw it the following year. You're going to have justin fields at Ohio state and Trevor Lawrence. Who In my opinion that's elway Marino? Those are two absolute. Can't fail home runs and this morning. Baker ten games removed from Baker. Mania is just a guy thirty second in passer rating thirtieth completion percentage second interceptions. That's with an elite running back in elite receiving core. He's just a guy a five eleven and a half guy who's too cocky. Accuracy eroded and not dynamic athletically as the quarterback position changes to more dynamic athletically. This year Baker. Mayfield wasn't even the most interesting quarterback in the AFC with a moustache. That was Gardner. Menchu Cleveland's now closer to the Miami dolphins than the Pittsburgh steelers without without Big Ben the. NFL what do they say and F. L.. Not For long this is why do fifteen commercials this is why it come in humble will this is why you come in hungry. This is why you don't make bold predictions. The interest now in Baker is simply about the disaster known as Baker. This league's got to a common. We're two years away from Justin fields a trevor Lawrence Common. We've got Kylie's here and better we got Lamar's ars here and he's dynamic. Baker is this morning just a guy and my least favorite thing he does is that he. There's an old bill belichick line when you ask him about something goes on to Cincinnati. It's like the running joke in the league. Look do not live in the rear view mirror so here are the browns this week facing their rival short week. Red Hot steelers national TV and bakers talking about the crowd noise Ag- against Buffalo last week. Usually I wasn't that it was just the fact we're an offense. We needed to be quiet. You might have ruffled some feathers. That's once again. That's okay but when we're on offense in a critical down We need to be able to have silence in her home stadium. It's got to be an advantage manage for us. And then when they get the ball. It's gotta be really well. Let's just face football. You're not wrong except for the fact you're talking once again about last week and not the biggest game of the year ten games removed. He's just a guy he doesn't look anything. Close to Lamar. You're not watching Arizona. I am. I'm paid to watch him. He Ain't close to cuyler. Murray he not going to be close to two Trevor Lawrence Justin fields. Hell Sam Darnold last week. Look really good Eric. Mangini on first things first this morning about Baker's comments about the crowd against buffalo just take capac and focus on the Pittsburgh steelers not not the fans not your facial hair not your sneakers and whatever design the have not at the one hundred thousand dollar watching have. Can't we please focus on the task. And as opposed to everything else. The browns just find a way to not to create more problems than distracts themselves. Just guy ten games removed from Baker Mania. The league big changes fast at humbles. You quickly ask the rams that was the future everybody was copying the rams a year ago. Ten Games Games ago the League was copying the rams now have a crisis at running back offensive line and salary cap all right. Let me shift to this. I college football. What do you want me to pay attention to okay? So when I look at college football I consider recruiting what players going into your conference. I look at the NFL the draft. What kind of players are coming out of your conference and I can say unequivocally without an argument for the last ten to fifteen years the? SEC is the best conference so yesterday the committee came out and had Lsu want Ohio state to Georgia and Clemson Iran and Bama five so what they are saying is three of the top five teams are from the SEC and people are all worked up about it clearly. The committee wants that's two. SCC teams in. I don't have a problem with it. Ohio state CLEMSON INTO SEC teams. I watched the SEC. Every Saturday bigger occur stronger faster. I watched the recruiting rankings every year. I'm kind of Dork every year six. SEC teams in the top. Ten to twelve by the way Oregon faced Auburn Auburn had a freshman quarterback starting his first game neutral field. Oregon has a quarterback many believe is the first or second best in college football and three offensive linemen and the NFL returning their entire offense and Auburn One and Georgia beat Notre Dame and Lsu beat beat Texas. What do you want to count? I look at the recruiting. Sec's got better players. The mock draft. I looked up to mock drafts this morning. Four of the top five players. SEC half of the first round is SEC players and not supposed to look at that they got better players coming in they they got better players going out half the first round SEC Lsu. Texas Auburn with First Year quarterback Beats Oregon. With a Stud quarterback. Back I got Georgia beat Notre Dame the committee saying we want to SEC teams in the final poll. I agree with that. Give Me Ohio State Clemson and then let the guys down south sorted out. But I don't know what people get worked up over Oregon's Oregon didn't win the PAC twelve. They could not beat the SEC's all save fourth-best team Auburn something. They're worse than Florida. Maybe the fifth if best team with a true freshman quarterback so I try to pay attention to this stuff. I Watch Games watch recruiting. I watched mock drafts. I'm a nerd. I spent time on it. I keep getting the same answer. SEC's got more good teams more good players more NFL bodies. How do I not consider that? Because this is all subjective right. I I mean the schedules don't work for a team that you gotTa Win. These September Games Oregon. That's why you schedule because you WANNA make a statement and you. Have you have a junior senior superstar superstar quarterback Auburn's gotTa Freshman Auburn beat you. We outplayed them for the entire game. That makes it worse. Can you imagine if Auburn outplayed. You for the entire game that had beaten by twenty. You outplayed them and still lost. So I look at recruiting. I look September Games. I look at the mock drafts. I look at the speed of the Games. LSU Alabama Ma. No other conference gives you game like that. I mean Utah Play Oregon. They're both very good. It will look like that we'll have twenty-five NFL guys on the field. So I don't have a problem committee saying listen. We liked Clemson. We like Ohio State. We like the SEC. That's my that's what. Oh my is telling me too. I like Oregon Utah Oklahoma but that conference down south got good players every year coming into the conference and leaving the conference. I'm okay the Committee and show you want me to pay attention to have some attention deficit disorder issues shoes in my life but I can pay attention to see simple stuff like recruiting rankings in mock drafts. And what my is telling me on Saturday. LSU Bama played. That didn't look like any other conference that that game didn't look like any other conference. Sounds like you joke level lot talking about today. He's going to try to sell me. Kansas state or something. I'M NOT GONNA coming up next an and I'm listening. You don't have to like Lebron you're going to be blown away by this th that you're going to be. You're going to be shocked by this Nick Right here today. Mercedes Lewis Joel. Klatt all coming up around the corner be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am Pacific on Fox sports radio F S One and and the iheartradio APP. This just in. It's officially fall. And that means a lot of things to a lot of people. The leaves are changing color. 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Haywood Calvin Murphy team in watching the NBA. Since I was like eight years old. Lebron is the Swiss army knife. There's never been a player in fact there's nobody ever been close to Lebron. He is great rated more things than any player ever. Michael was better your score. Kobe was more artistic Kareem. Had the unstoppable shot Bill Russell that better defender Lebron's the greatest greatest player at multiple things and fivethirtyeight so website And they were talking about this this morning his move to point guard first of all he was a power player for years then he decided I gotta shoot threes in the last three years. He is a top five three point shooter which again for a six nine forwards remarkable and then this is like I'm going to play point. Well statistically you'd now the NBA's best point guard so it'd be it backs up. What I believe is he? He is one easy to the first or second best player. My the three best players to me and I don't count centres You know Jordan Magic Lebron Centers. A little bit. I mean come on your seven two. You should score lot. Nothing against big guys. But it's magic. Who's always been better than we think? Michael the greatest score most relentless player mind control. Michael and then lebrons Lebron's graded everything so everybody's trying to sell me parody this year in the NBA. And I. There are a lot of teams. I Like I think Utah's really good Denver's good Milwaukee's good. The sixers are good. Portland's interesting not good yet But to me I don't buy it because the NBA's never been about parody. It's about the best players joining forces and the best team in the NBA. To me is the clippers clippers and the second best team has Lebron and the question. This year is the question every year except last year. which is WHO's guarding Lebron? May because that's been the NBA for eight straight years. A healthy Lebron is made the finals eight straight years. So the question is who stopping Lebron and for four years ears about four and a half we had an answer golden state because they had a bunch of great shooters hitting threes and they threw a bunch of guys at him draymond a little an iggy Lil and a clay okay. So now that's imploded. So the question is who who stop in the Bronx because now he's the best point point guard in the NBA. Who Stop in the Bronx? And I believe the answer is the clippers because they have guys who can hit threes Paul George Lou Williams and they also have a bunch of guys in fact I could make an argument. They have the three best guys in the League to stop. Lebron Paul George Colli Leonard Heard and frankly Patrick Beverley who loves guarding him and his a pain in the rump. And so you know we we talk about all this stuff about the NBA. And and this story fivethirtyeight comes out Lebron once again I mean as much as you love Michael Jordan. He was never the best point guard in the league. He was never a great rebound or a great passer but I come down to your semi parody and I'm like if Lebron's healthy late April may June who stopping him. ONE TEAM NOT NOT UTAH NOT DENVER. Not Milwaukee Not Boston not the sixers not Portland. Not Houston the clippers joy with the news. You turn on the news. This is the headline news so the cowboys had a tough time stopping the run against the Vikings on Sunday Nights Minnesota sorta rushed for one hundred and fifty three yards and a touchdown and when asked how he would describe his team's four run Defense Jerry Jones gave a very interesting analogy jello. And about the time that you stop it from coming out the middle finger by the forefinger at the time you start it over there then starts coming out of the size. And that's what makes this game so great. That's what makes the challenge so great and and you think you've got it figured out and two games later. The defense you face will have had it figured out for you. We'll he's right so weird analogy but he is is right. The game changes really fast. WHO's ever tried to hold handfuls? Ajello not me ever but you know it's a you know he's getting older and there is. He's getting older. Maybe he's eating more Jello it with my hands. He is so intricate in his description analogy As if he's been eating Jello. Two hands just paints a picture with the words you remember that analogy. He did about the the severing your hands. Like driver car wrecks in your hand it was almost severed off. Yeah she didn't understand your data me. And then he went through that whole thing and then in two thousand seventeen he said. We're going to have to burn some wagons. Implode the Mississippi with some of the second talking about these are Texas metaphors. We don't get I don't know but they're very descriptive. And he's right that that's like was what it looked like like what they were trying to cook. Yes against the Vikings. I mean when I think of the issues with the cowboys though I my initial thought does not go to defense and Like the Vikings played a better game at the end of the day than the cowboys did. And I don't think it was a bad loss for the cowboys. I I think you and I agree on this. I would. What's their offense of identity? I think I have the pieces uses. I don't think they're coaching staff knows what they're off. I'd offensive identity is we'll to me. They're offensive identity. Is that what. That's what I think. But that but when I act to be okay when I said that I said if you if you put Nick Chub behind Dak this team is not less but if you put Baker in instead of back now with Zeke the teams of Mass Dax the identity and secondly is the offensive line. If tyron Smith Healthy Travis Frederick healthy they move the football. I don't think I never thought it was Zeke. I've never thought it was from how Great Zeke is. Right is top running back up one or two running back in the league by the way Cleveland's identity is is Nick Chubb because Bakers Limited Dax not as limited. He's a bigger better athlete. More of a leader. He's a more mobile so in on that team. Nick Chubb is the identity and should be. I I'm kind of I'm growing exhausted with with trying to Pitch Dot Prescott. I feel like you know I feel like you and I talks agents. Listen all the speculation was fine after Sunday. People need to acknowledge that Dak.. You know this you and I had some questions about two and both you and I were like he throws the one side of the field He gets hurt a lot. And then I watched him against Lsu. And I'm like okay. He's two weeks weeks off the surgery table. And that's the best I've ever seen. Hey you can't really can't poke holes in it too and now and now I got prototypes in the League. That looked like to and I'm like okay. Two is the number one picked. Like I personally am still leaning towards Joe Borough but I'm not I'm not. I don't have the things I do that about about two. That's exactly how I feel you. You WanNa see how you play at the highest level with the highest competent. Shula was better Saturday than I've ever seen against a real team a real defensive coordinator and I was like okay. He's number one. Okay that's all. My doubts are gone by the way you know. It's funny out. Nineteen years old people get better at stuff. Remarkable how it works. Do you approve and hopefully Josh Josh Gordon made his debut with the seahawks on Monday nights. Seattle is the third team. He's played for in his career at the browns and the Patriots and when he was asked about his transition from the quarterback carousel and Cleveland. Tom Brady now. Russell Wilson this season he said seems like in this part of my career. I'm trending upwards in quarterback ooh shot at TV. Russell is better than Tom Right now right so I don't think that was mean-spirited. I just think he was talking. Yeah no I don't think he's I don't think he met for it. Sounds like a jab at Tom. It's just it just sounds like a great for the record. Let's let's make sure everybody knows. How's this Josh Gordon at two huge catches and by the way when the Patriots? Let Josh Gordon go my sources. Tell me that didn't play well in the New England Locker Room. I don't know how it would was something really going on there. which didn't seem like it was it was? It was kind of a shocking move. You have an offense that could really use some Dynamic nine amick players on I mean. It's a huge get. When we got pushed out of New England? That didn't sit well with players. Like New England knows Gronk left threat. So the Josh Gordon thing he had a relapse issue. I'm not discounting that. But he was a factor on Monday. Night a big factor right and. I don't think he doesn't barely taking a shot at Tom Brady. But I'm also not ready to say that. Russell Wilson is I mean. He's having an. He's having a better season than Tom. Brady UH is better than Tom Brady today. Yes absolutely yes. He's better than Tom Brady. Yes of course he is. I like Tom Tom. Tom Tom Brady is an excellent young man. He's now he's not young all right speaking of the Patriots and their loss to the Ravens. They were down by seventeen points. In the second quarter England was never able to dig themselves. out early hall and Julian Edelman says it being better to start the game this week with the main focus and preparing for the eagles. He said the team like Baltimore. You can't get behind because they're so dynamic it keeping the ball away from you so starting fast getting back on that program being able to come out and start passing. Get a rhythm. Establish a lot of this was more about self scouts and we're just kind of working on us on all the things things that we have to do. Better kind of out. We feel about the cowboys they need to start a little faster This is this is again. This is why the Josh Gordon Moore was interesting to me because if this this is the case like you WanNa keep you going to score every time you're getting the ball we're paying a lot of attention to Lamar gave the Patriots trouble right right. Why aren't we paying attention to the other thing? That Baltimore's good. Not Great Defense gave the Patriots trouble like this is not just a lamar pain in the bod New England's stat. I went and looked at them. This morning they're sixteenth in the League and everything against bad teams except Baltimore there. This is not like an outlier new. England's offense is a pop hop gun offense. There's no deep threat. There's no tight end. Third left tackle third kicker. And I'm a New England guy and yet still I fear them the most. Wow that's Miami. Pittsburgh been conditioned. I'm like Michael rapaport yesterday. I've given up. There's some things sometimes. You just gotTa give up giving up joy Taylor with the news. Well that's the news thanks for stopping got some NFL things. I WanNa talk to nick right about but I do want to address an offensive thing because I know he is Giddy this morning that Lebron and he was the first to really get into this lebrons now. Point Guard always the best in the league at it till via the cower our global satellite network. I cannot deny this I said this. In the last eight years Lebron been healthy. He ends up in the finals. Golden State's the only thing that gives them an issue. You and I do think the clippers have some golden state components a little bit wing defender shoot threes. But you are. You are loving this whole thing aren't you. Yeah Yeah I mean this whole thing you mean. The last seventeen years is a pretty great. I would agree Being able to sit here have a front row seat to watching the greatest most durable most versatile athlete in human history. Continue to reinvent himself and continue to be the top profession. It's been amazing. I would and by the way you're takes this morning. have been shockingly spot on. I just heard about the Patriots. I welcome you to reality on their offense. I'm glad you finally got here but on the Brown is surprising to me because people don't know this about Colin. You're a student of history much like myself if I can't count how many times you've called me to discuss the committee Crimean War. Pardon me and many of those things but your history is a little off when it comes to. Oh Lebron because I heard you say what has stopped. Lebron aside from the injury over the last four years was the warriors through all these wing defenders at him. And and so I'm GonNa do this in my head off the top of my head but so just tell me the year those wing defenders because that is what the clippers have they have all these wing defenders is that the wing defender slowdown the brand because there was the first year of the finals where he went thirty six thirteen and nine and the guy who held him to that one finals. NBN Andrea with dollars in the second year of the finals where he had the greatest three game stretch in the history of the sport and coming back from from three one down the third year in the finals where he averaged a thirty four point triple double and there's the fourth year of the finals against the warriors were he the open the finals with a fifty one nine nine and then played the rest of the finals with a broken hand because Jr Smith forgot the score. So I would say those waves wave of wing defender. They threw it. Didn't do Neria thing. Golden State beat them because they could outscore them. I don't know that the clippers can outscore the Lakers. The thing that actually is giving Lebron trouble offensively the only thing in his career aside for maybe at times having to play for Luke Walton it is big Minh is rim-protector. Once upon a time there was a giant named Roy Hibbert who gave Lebron legitimate trouble. You live live in La. WHO's the clippers? Big Guy is six foot seven mantras Harrell or is it zoo botch. That's GONNA give Lebron trouble. I don't know but I'm I'm yet to see that person exist for that basketball. These are all fairly reasonable arguments. I'm going to move to football. Give you win on that one give you W on that one. So let's move to football ball. I am seen as very critical of Baker Mayfield but I said ten games ago. It was Baker Mania today. He's not close to Lamar. Nobody's watching but he's not close to Kyle Murray to is coming into the league to Shawn's now a star Dax getting better. He is now not even the most interesting mustache stash in the AFC. Am I too critical of Baker. Is He plays tomorrow or was I right on this. Well I you know I have a deep unwavering commitment to take integrity and if I say something I need to be pulled off it by hurricane force winds but the more Baker plays and the more Baker talks the more right you appear to be it's frustrating. It's disappointing I I still think one day. My Baker Mayfield stock is going to be worse something right now. It's trading on the same exchange blockbuster and ain't ain't great. I hate the you said something that I had never thought about a few weeks ago. And it's when you were talking about his judgment and you were talking about that. The the the moments you knew it would be a problem and you brought up the moment in college with the cops and what you said that I hadn't even thought of was the moment he ran from the cops. He wasn't even the one in trouble and before before I became the man I am today. I don't mind admitting this I might have been someone who ran from the cops a few times every damn time I was in trouble. It was the right right decision. I had to go to go but his instinct was I gotta go and his instincts are bad. You were right his instinct this this week when he wrote me as more turnovers than anyone in football except for I think Jared Goff Jameis Winston to start lecturing the fans on proper etiquette. Kit Is Abysmal. And if you if you were to be thirty minutes late twice a week to your own show and the ratings fall apart and then you say well you know what our gaffer guy is really blowing it for me. The lack of accountability is unacceptable so maybe Baker will mature but that is the very very long way of me saying this appears to be where Colin was right and it really is frustrating. Thank you I gave you a w on the first ran I get a W. on the second. One I I'm at Russell Wilson. When he was very very young college and I turn to my producer at the time at the other network? And I said he'll be commissioner by forty five. I said I don't know what it is. But he is different and that was before he had he had just beaten out Matt. Flynn and I watched the Monday night his stats. He doesn't care about stats he. He's a remarkable human being after interceptions. He's over it in less than a second. He is the most optimistic that his Alpha his leadership leadership I every receiver works for him. I don't even know who these guys are from the Pacific. Northwest t you I. I wasn't on the Russell stuff early some of that maybe because of where I grew up and my sister sports and then he made her like football. But what did you make of Monday with Russell. I I made a Monday with Russell. Even though it was far and away not his best game of the year one of the only two games all year where. He's made a legitimate mistake. The other being in Baltimore and Marcus Peters that it further reinforces everything everything. He's been since the moment he walked into the NFL which is a future first ballot hall of Famer who does nothing but produce the history is on impeachable and I can do it very quickly. His rookie year his rookie year. They're down fourteen nothing in the first round of the playoffs he brings them back their down. Twenty to nothing nothing in the second round of the playoffs he brings them all the way back to where they have a lead over Atlanta. Twenty eight twenty seven with seconds remaining for Matt Bryant wins the game second year wins the superbowl third year comes within a game of the Super Bowl over the next four years one year leads the league in passer rating one year leads the league touchdown passes never misses a game. Never is is below five hundred win. They're rebuilding they make the playoffs and this year is going to win the MVP but the thing you said about your sister is interesting because he does is listen. Russell Wilson is a true believer and I don't say this with any judgment. I don't say this tongue in cheek. He he talks if he believes he has been touched by God God and whether or not you are inclined to believe that he makes his teammates believe it. He makes his teammates believe leave things. They otherwise wouldn't and that is that extra five percent that separates the great quarterbacks from the greatest quarterbacks ever and through eight years Russell. Wilson is in route to being one of the greatest quarterbacks ever for a long time. People argued luck over Wilson Wilson. Or this shiny new toy over Wilson. He's always been that dude from. NC State Wisconsin to win. He took over for format. Flynn days aftermath. Flynn was given forty million bucks and I'm glad he's GonNa win the MVP this year because he damn well deserves it. Finally I didn't give out my. I do you my Wednesday super bowl bubble and it's just so much fun here we do bubble music and stuff and And I have my bubble this week and I'm not gonNA unveil it yet but Kansas City is the one and really good team with Dallas Out Dallas's out because the coach and the identity I don't know what their offensive identity is. I don't think they know. Or they wouldn't give the ball to Zeke late. That let Dak do it in Kansas City. So I know you're from there but I'm Gonna I'm GonNa just throw this out there you can tell me how great you are. I need to see you be great. Lebron Lebron is great. Michael was great of the eight biggest games in mahomes his career. He's one in seven. They don't win enough. Yeah yeah they don't win enough for me go ahead. Yeah so the the the one seven I again. You've done this once before Patrick mahomes which is e you go to what I assume. Is the Colin Coward. Big Game Index look runs loss and you circle them and say okay. Well they lost. It must be a big game. Oh well dammit. He did win that one playoff game so I guess I have to include it. I'm not certain where you got that stat that but I'd like to dig into the numbers on it. Here's what I know. Can't cities a flawed team. There's no doubt about it. There's no question they're not as good as I thought they were before the year one thing. You can't argue is against their ceiling. They Lamar Jackson is thirteen and four in his career. Half those losses else's to that Guy Right there Patrick mahomes and the Kansas City chiefs your Golden God. Tom Brady has played bathrooms twice in the last twelve months since both of those games Patrick Mahomes led the chiefs back to take a lead in the fourth quarter. One game they were done in by a coin flip one game. They were done in by their defense defense. Now what's problematic for Kansas City while they can beat anybody they also have proven they can lose to anybody but I don't know what your super bowl bubbles is is going to be but I'll tell you what it should be Green Bay New Orleans Baltimore Seattle New England San Francisco Kansas City there are seven teams teams. That can win the Super Bowl Philly Minnesota. Houston you're out those seven teams. They are in. That is that is the. What's the Nick Right Super Bowl bubble that I he just stole from you and I might turn into a television show tomorrow? Pretend you never came up right by the way new haircut boy. He looks really good. Today doesn't last week. He had kind of a sweeping thing. It was unkept today. You look just to read. I don't really know man I'll be honest with you. Colin Lebron moved to the West Coast. I get about an hour and a half asleep. I I sleep before I talk to you and I wake up and sometimes I even fixed my hair today I did. That's the only difference. Good seeing you buddy nick. Graham man one of my favorite favorite spots every week coming up next the Super Bowl bubble all deliver it to you. Refer Fascinating Story on the bears and two guys didn't want want Mitch Trubisky and the bears would listen to them and they were sort of important guys it fascinating story Chicago now doesn't have a first round pick and doesn't never quarterback they like sort of a big deal in the NFL. Be Sure to catch live editions of the heard Weekdays at noon eastern nine am Pacific. Hi everybody it's it's the heard Thanksgiving's couple of weeks away that's it and if you haven't signed up for butcher box already hurry up. Don't miss out on one of their great offers. Ever you sign up now. 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That can take you a decade or more to burrow out but think about this we all make thousands of decisions a day but let's boil wrote down to about twelve decision today. You know cutting and traffic. Maybe I shouldn't talk to your boss opened a door twelve decisions day. That's as little as you could do. Twelve decision vision today. Seven days a week is what eighty four eighty four times four weeks in a month at three sixty three sixty time twelve months a year is about four thousand decisions a year. There's probably that many maiden a week but I'll say a year by the time you're forty five you have made millions of decisions people that make better better decisions end up in a better place by forty five. I'm not saying at twenty two. You can overcome a bad childhood or even thirty to mid forties. Get it together. Most of the people running the NFL in their mid forties. You deserve to be where you're at in the NFL. Don't blame officials. I don't want to hear about the officials I don't I wanNA hear about anything. Pittsburgh and Cleveland have the same topography weather and division ones. Great one stinks always. There's a reason the Rooney's are smarter. The GM is smarter. Mike Tomlin smarter. There's a reason Pittsburgh in Cleveland. There's no reason Pittsburgh have any topography geography or economic advantage. They do so I was thinking about. There's a story out today that John Fox former bears coach and the quarterback coach the bears did not want Mitch Trubisky. They were like no no no no so. We want to Shawn Watson because they're in the same conference into shuns way better which me just a radio. TV Moron said before the draft. Everybody here is my witness. How do you draft Mitch? Trubisky who I did not see really as a starting. NFL quarterback front leg throw a ball. Dies is marginally athletic over Shawn Watson. They played in the same conference. What are you doing nick? Saban twice six weeks. Couldn't stop the Sean. What are you doing Dabo Sweeney? I know it's I know it's bias but sometimes biases right dabbles. When he's like he's Michael Jordan? I'm just a college coach. But that's Michael Jordan. Okay so Cleveland. One is passed on thinking about this. Cleveland passed onto Shawn Watson Patrick Mahomes and Carson Wentz for five eleven and a half two time lock on Cocky Guy. Chicago navigated gave picks to move up. Not Take Mahomes. Not Take the Shawn Watson Mitch Trubisky Okay. Cincinnati you've always been Cincinnati to is available if you don't pick him that's why you're Cincinnati. Joe Boroughs good to Trent. Dilfer doesn't eleven eleven camp bucky Brooks and and Trent had been doing that for years. They have both told me on the record enough to was the best prospect they have ever seen this. Was Trent dilfer on my show. This week I think to a single best prospect aspect. I have ever studied in my years of doing it He is so uniquely gifted in so many ways that I think he is head head and shoulders better than borough and Herbert to talk. Tired of LOA has a chance to be a generational type talent in the NFL on. Go down as one of the better quarterbacks ever played in the NFL he was two weeks off the surgery table and nearly flawless against Lsu. He's completing seventy one percents Santa's throws with a conservative defensive-minded head coach thirty-one td's three picks well Alabama Alabama. Doesn't run the kind of offense that highlights quarterbacks they I play it safe. And now you have Russell Wilson Cuyler Murray who are really giving you the prototype form. There's no excuse like Lamar Jackson. I can get people going. I haven't seen anything like Lamar since Michael Vick. And that was like fifteen years ago you got two guys in the NFL. Right now. Flourishing play like tour Russell Wilson on Monday night and Kyla Marine Arizona. You're not watching their games. He is too but probably not as good so again you deserve in the NFL NFL. To be where you're at and there's a reason Cleveland could have had all these guys carson went. And there's a reason Cleveland Cleveland. And there's a reason Chicago Chicago which is mostly outside of very brief run with Mike Ditka. Chicago's been dysfunctional. Good for a year bad good bad mostly bad mostly mediocre to was out there go. Oh get him because by the way join I both a year ago. I was like he gets hurt. He tends to be kind of a one side of the field thrower. He has gotten better honor for him to play at seventy five percent two weeks surgery table. Be that accurate and that good Gary Danielson said I saw him on Friday. He doesn't look right well. I saw him on Saturday her day. Look really right when you have multiple people who've seen him since high school saying no. No no no no no no no this is this is the best ever and so I mean you can like the other guys I get it but I think this kid is getting better. His numbers are insane and we got he. He's a left left handed. Russell Wilson which I always been as prototype but now that keiler Murray then and caters for the record I believe is over. Six feet. Tall let to is not hot hot. He's six one okay. So He's taller the Russell Wilson. He's much taller than cuyler. He's six one two is not that small all right good stuff super bowl bubble coming up. Mercedes Lewis Joel Klatt stops by SEC. Three of the top five teams doesn't bother me at all. My Dad was not Thomas. I have good vision the SEC's he's better. Joel Klatt argue. That's all coming up next on our two one more heard the heard streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio APP. Search her to listen live or on demand. Whenever you like it was not an accident it was not a car? A burglary gone bad. It was an assassination. 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Always eight eight teams in my Super Bowl Bubba. What is but his mom's just bubble sound effects the super bowl bubble okay so we super bowl? That's long John. Not Interested in another box have bubbles. They have a dentist. Not the kind of the kids are watching this show. That's legal in California but we got nine hundred dollar a gallon gas out here so crazy town. Let's go for the non again. That kind of sounds like a bomb to me but great could be like a boiling cauldron. Okay so here my super bowl teams these these can win the Super Bowl. My eight teams New England Baltimore Houston Green Bay Minnesota. I've wedged them in. After beating the cowboys. Boys Kirk cousins managed the game. Well Seattle San Francisco Saints. Dallas and Kansas City are out I like Dallas a lot my question becomes and what's their offensive identity. I don't know it. It should be back. I don't think they know it and I say that because I watched the play calling late in the game. They don't know what they are. Seattle knows is what they are. Russell Wilson take the game over. Lsu knew what they were. Joe Borough take the game over. Minnesota knew what they were Sunday night. Dalvin Cook screens take the the game over and Kansas City. The other team that I've moved out of the bubble. I love the coach. I love quarterback but you gotTa Win More Games so nick right made fun of my big game index checks but I was thinking this morning the eight biggest games in Patrick mahomes career. AFC Championship lost AFC division round. One Monday night football against the Rams Ramsgate moved from Mexico lost against New England Sunday night football lost in Seattle Sunday night. Football lost that Thursday night game against the chargers with playoff implications lost lost this year. mahomes against the Shawn Watson. That was the game we were like the game of the weekend lost and Sunday night football against the colts when we were shocked. Jacoby we'll be percent one in their ball-control lost one in seven in your eight biggest games. Yes you blow out bad teams. Yes you're unbeaten in September. Yes you can throw the ball Paul and not look I get it. I need you to win more games against TV Games. We always roller is at kirk cousins. And we all know. mahomes is better than Kirk cousins. But you gotTa Start Winning those Sunday games Thursday games and the stand alone games and the pressure game got start winning those games. Kansas City doesn't win those enough enough and so they're out of my super bowl. was that that was one bubble. Would even that wasn't even a series of bubbles that we only we only have one super bo-bottle. What do you mean multiple bubbles? You're very particular about your bubble sounds. We've got kids watching. I prefer K kids. Love bubbles. All right it was Mercedes around here. Okay I got something else but I'm going to hold off. Let's we had him on a couple of weeks ago and he's nice enough you went to Ucla. He decided. I'm I'm in town. I'm coming on the heard. Let's bring him on fourteen years in the NFL Mercedes. Lois bye week for the packers. Bye Week for the packer. How are you my friend? First of all by weeks or nice right fourteen years in the league. Do you just go out to eat. Chicken Parm Hang. HANG OUT PASTA. Drink wine what are you doing. You're like I would just be like. Oh I'm just GONNA be just hang out and have a good time. Yeah well I think it all depends on when you're standing is one of my we comes up If you're on a team that you're not doing so well I think you you absolutely try to get away from football as as fast as possible but you know in our case where eighty two We're doing really well right now. I think you know mentally Is All about ball ball still and right now. We're starting to get my body right so we can get ready for the second interesting moment. I think Green Bay's a good team. I do worry about teams. Have at the point of Attack Philadelphia. I thought kind of pushed him around a little bit. And I think I've seen twice this year right where I thought offensive line's pushed him back. They do have a running game. The defense is better. It was interesting chargers with the other team that I thought at the point of attack gave them trouble Erin had a very interesting vita this. This is funny a very interesting bite about coming out to La and not focus. Let's run the bite here by Aaron. We're going to be honest with our in our routine and this is we made the last forty eight hours and make sure that Our heads in the right place. The next time we come on on a big road trip Aaron was as brutally honest as you can be. We got a young team. Some of the guys went out to Hollywood. Came home late. Is that what he was saying. I mean you're a veteran. You you live here you're not in. La was there a flight when you flew home. was there a sense that we just weren't ready to play I. It's one of those things where obviously we have good leadership on our team but for the most part we're still pretty young team right and so you know when you go on to west coast trips you know normally relieve Friday instead of Saturday and we have curfews does not allow you can just be out in the club but you know it's a big part of it is actually stand off your feet you know as well Eh just staying out of trouble so when you get the young is you know being out and being in La for the first time like that. Stand off your feet is not gonNa. Yeah I totally get it but for you. You're you live it. You had a house here you went to Ucla over in Belair so for you. It's no but you come out here to business business trends and Aaron by the way he's got a place out here for sure so you know Aaron does get me and he gets pushed back and stuff but you are again. You're a veteran run. Smart player went to a very heavy academic school. I would think you and Erin connect I would think it to good relations. We have a really good relationship and You I started you know even being there from last year it was something that just wasn't forced to just kind of happened We respect each other very much. It was a situation. You know being Jacksonville the entire time my whole career You know I was always even as a young one like I was always like the leader. You know coming over the Green Bay A.. And getting a chance to you know bear around Guy Kinda like myself as far as not a raw raw leader just lead by example Prom you you know I just a good pro and You know for the things that he's accomplished. MVP Super Bowl. All of that. I want I wanted to be a part of that and You know we we kinda. I shared the same ideas as far as we should lead You know being older guys in the locker room and you know he kinda balances ideas off me so it works really well. You have played in the two smallest. NFL Cities Jacksonville and Green Bay. It's not like you get in trouble anyway. But it's different. I mean just take our audience down. So you're a big city kid right. And then you go to Jacksonville. which makes is sleepy bye? Sleepy standards for and then you go to Green Bay where they got a hotel. It's it's different right like you guys know in Green Bay. It is not the rest of American pro sport in Like I thought that when I I was in Jacksonville I remember when I got there in. Jacksonville is a rookie. I was like is this is what the NFL is like. This is not like while we were at the rookie symposium and they're telling us to watch out for all these things coming our way and all these different obstacles. We'll have to watch out for it. 'cause Jacksonville definitely didn't provide any of that a lot of old people who golf. Yeah Yeah and then when I got the Green Bay say K Jacksonville but twenty five degrees so Honestly been blessed to to be in two spots where I can just totally focused on ball in Pay Dividends for me. I'm in my fourteen year and I'm instill ascending and still learning and getting better so Definitely blessed I have to take me to It's an interesting team. Where even Davante Adams is a kid? But he's been out meaning errands going to have to deal with some young receivers so take me in our audience sort of inside practice a week of practice you you got a big game against Dallas and Aaron teaching young players. What's what's it like? Well obviously Devante in you know amazing. He's a dope guy and you know what he does on the football field. I mean I. I haven't seen that. You know his releases off the line and you know he's he's just a technician and everything isn't he. Yeah he's just a technician as far as his rows. Great Hands So when he went down it was just like okay. Obviously it was a blow But throughout the whole entire process you know Aaron is grooming guys just in case something like this. What do you mean grooming you know? Aaron is one of those those guys that like if if he if he notices that you care about it and you really love what you're doing you love to be in a building and you. You know you're practicing. You're doing everything you're supposed to be doing to prepare to be a pro. He's GonNa take to you more could he. He's not listen. You gotTA show him. You're into it you have have to and if you don't then you're you're here for the wrong reason so you know fortunate. We're fortunate enough to have young guys that you know Kinda take the bull by the horns and understanding that when you're on this offense is so intricate is simple but intricate. And what I mean by that. Is You know we. We have like our passes. Were we'll for the most part matchup at least from outside with our trump lays right so we'll go to the line and have a certain set of place that we can run from the line and then you have Aaron and you have errands place okay. So if Aaron gets to the line and he doesn't like what he sees you a check out and get us into the best. Let's play possible. And so from having those two things and then Aaron has signs and signals for at least three for every pass right let me signals. He look at you and do if you looked up and he would give you know give you the cross. Yeah so he'll he'll look at you he'll give you a signal and for depending on what play he wants. He has three Denver signals for one. Play right so defenses. Can't get beat on what it is when when will Erin ever say like people say he ad libs allot. Does he ever practice ad libs. I always watch Russell Wilson and Aaron and I'm like I keep practice that Aaron is We practice off schedule place. You practice them. Yeah so obviously. We'll have our set plays or whatever and then you know sometimes Aaron will whatever no matter what the play is he'll just start he'll start scrambling and expect you to be in certain spots when he scrambling and Aaron has the ability to he can throw the ball anywhere on the field from anywhere in the pocket. You know so you always have to be alert. You always have to be doing exactly what you're supposed to be doing in spot that you're supposed to be in and he does know looks so it's kind of like this. Always gotta be like on your toes because you can get hit in the face with the ball. Yeah any moment it by the way. Is You know. Aaron can be errands very confident. He looks like a movie star. He's always in commercials and stuff and he is the the biggest star in Green Bay. I mean we have this. You know this great looking legend in the smallest city right like his life can't always would be easy. He's even dating a celebrity like he can't go to the grocery store I I don't think I asked him the last year like Bro. How do you go to the grocery store? He was like you know I wear. Where my sweats and you know? I don't I don't waste time. I just get in you out. I'm like okay. I'm pretty sure you'll get mugged soon as you walk. GOSAR imagine going to a grocery store in Green Bay and you grabbing lettuce and that's Aaron Rodgers next year. Wouldn't it be different. I'm trying to figure out why Aaron has a prince voice he just burgers. So how do you feel when you look at your team. I'll say to you. What do you think the strength strength is that you really like and is there any little thing? You're a little concerned about you feel. You need to get better at. I think as a team where we are a resilient I think that if you take a look at our schedule and go back to the gains that we won we won them in every way possible. Did you can win them in from injuries to you know having to come back to win games to count on young guys to help you win game play easy schedule. No you got. Offense is struggling a little bit at the beginning. The defense it was right there right defense struggling you know in the mid in offenses right there. So I think that Sean different ways to ways to win and I think our resiliency is would you know has us in this position that we're in right now. What worries you a little or you have to get better at We we have to always remember to eat crumbs and what I mean. By that estate humble you know is not always about the big mill focus on the details And everything else will fall in bliss. Goulet message for you out there. Always looking for the big hit weren't ready when asked for bubbles. Today did wrong water see we got hit producer over there. That's a good one worry worry about the crumbs in life. That's a great show. Where did you get that I was fortunate enough to Meet Gus Bradley when he was coaching in Jacksonville. And you know obviously he. He helped me become a better football player at that time but just a man. In general in the psychological part of it was was huge and he was one of those guys that you know from a peak. Carol tree is all about being on Energie bus and focusing on the process. And you know it's not always about the end result you know we're not focusing on wins and losses. We're focusing on being the best that you can be that day and you always attaining like your personal letsion. Whatever that is is going to help the team? Wow they ain't great having him on the show. You should be a broadcast or when you're done when it. When are you going to hang this little side job when you got to get rid of it? Yeah I mean I I still love it when I wake up. I'm still in really good shape. You love going to practice. Yeah I love the process. I love better. I love the competition. 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It all starts at seven thirty eastern four thirty Pacific on Fox NFL network and streaming on prime video. I can't even tell you how excited I am for that game. Pittsburgh's front seven is so young and the San Francisco Forty niners in the steelers. Those teams have just loaded the box up with with unvbelievable young talent. Now it's Patrick comes over fits right. In Cold and Flu Season Tribe vixenish nasal spray starts working within seconds and works up to twelve Hours Joy Taylor with the news turn on the news. This is the heard line news. Adam Gates is only two and seven in his first year with the jets but the team is not thinking about jumping ship. Jets CEO Chris. Johnson said today that Adam Gates will not be fired. Now thank you or are at the end of the season. Thank you jets. Organization trust gays and they are committed to him as their coach. Moving forward now Greg Williams defensive coordinator I hear they. Don't get along long Gibson Ham that I'd change. You have a right to change snakes staff chain. Yeah I mean if you don't get along you don't get along but I do think that Greg Williams has had success in this league. Is I mean so old school so barring I mean yes I agree with all those things. It sounds weird and you. You probably couldn't do it. I bring you couldn't do it. I'd bring Todd Bowles back as defensive coordinator. He's at. I think Todd Bowles is. I think Todd Bowles is the best young defensive offensive mind. He and Brian Floors in the sport. But you couldn't do it because he used to. Coach the is is a little too soon but the jets are last in the NFL and total yards per game and fifteen in the NFL and total yards allowed per game. They haven't had a great season as we know. That is in part to the fact that Sam Darnold was out for several weeks also with mono and they don't have a number one receiver and they had major injuries. Their offense blinds awful. Yeah there's no imme- Pittsburgh and Dallas have great ole lines. Everybody else's are okay. The jets is awful. I mean it's disappointing. Season for the jets is. He wanted to see what Sam Darnold was going to be able to do levy on this year he wanted to see them. Take a step up and development hasn't happened limit. I don't believe in firing midseason and I don't think that they should fire gays after the these neither. Let me throw this out to you. Joy So Cleveland is disappointing. Because if you came out before the season and didn't say Cleveland was a playoff team team. You got pushback. When I came out and said I think the jets have a chance to be eight and eight? I got pushback. So if the jets roll off four wins here in the next six six weeks and end up six ten seven nine with with missing Donald for a month you would. You would look back and fire gays if they end up going seven and nine which by the way they're scheduled tells you they can win four or five of their next game. They're not that much worse than what we thought they'd be in June. Cleveland is much worse. Well you say it all the time what what creates problems is expectations. If you don't have high expectations then you can only overachieved boy wait. We all think Brian Floors has great. They've won two games. We were very happy with cliff Kingsbury. They've won three because aspect. There are no expectations. So what were the jets expectations. -tations we came out and I said I think they can go eight nate and people like Whoa you're darnold homer Chevron and nine is what they are. They're bad at corner there ban on the offensive line. They don't have a number one. That's not a good team right. So what are you really saying like the only thing I wanted to see from this year is Sam. Darnold take a step up and development. Regret Regret Levy on bell into the system. That's all you can ask for. This is the marathon not a sprint when it comes to teams like this and specifically the jets so I'm glad they're not moving off him. The bears traded up to the number two spots in the two thousand seventeen draft. Trubisky as we know he was the first quarterback taken with Patrick mahomes shots and still available. And now it's being reported that John Fox walks. Who was the bears? Head coach at the time was not on board with the trubisky. Pick and actually wanted the Shawn Watson as his quarterback. I'm with you. I never saw it. What's your risk Steve I didn't get it at the time and you know whatever we're not. Scouts are talent evaluators. Just what we do and we say what we think was gonna it happens sometimes right sometimes. We're very wrong but I will say in this situation and this is what it always comes down to for me really in any sport not just the NFL. If the head coach and the Front in office aren't aligned on who the guy is going to be the guy not only do not have the guy because it's very easy for everyone to be on the page with the same page with the Doug Guy. You're not going to be successful because you're going to have to fire that coach. 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA get rid of the front office right. In most cases because otherwise the coach would have enough power the veto with the front office as saying like say Bill Belichick or Pete Carroll. So you guys aren't aligns. You're going to pick someone that one part of the organization doesn't is an agree on and unless that person then ridiculously over achieves and then everyone can say oh well you know. I played some part in it. It's going to be a disaster. So the what's happened with Mitch. Trubisky is not surprising when you find out that this well obviously Fox hasn't confirmed this but this is the report. which is you know not difficult to believe? How's he going to develop alip if the coach didn't want it it? It's like that's not a position. You can be unsure about you you know. I always tried to be fair because There are guys. I thought Lamar Jackson was a second round pick. who was a project? And he's been very good and Josh Allen who I did say I thought could be the bust of it has been you know. I was right on the baker thing. I was riding Josh Allen. Wrong on them The Mar- I think Sam darnold unproven. And yet Josh Rosen. I'm wrong on he. Although it's not easy it is not easy to pick a quarterback. Nobody thought mahomes would be this right. It's almost like Kobe Bryant. He was good he didn't DB. Kobe Bryant is white in the top. Five or Steph curry but it's easy to spot trouble. It's not always easy to spot. Great trubisky excuse. The trouble was really easy to spot. He didn't have a lot of starts. He couldn't beat out a non. NFL Guy Junior year he was a front leg thrower. I mean like it was the Bisky. There's no excuse it was. I want to Greg Cosell at Camp and I said Greg I don't get trubisky and he goes. Yeah it's not gonNA work. I think sometimes uh-huh also what happens is guys fall in love with the personality. The personality of your franchise quarterback it is and the leadership factors are important but at the end of the day you also have to have talent. I have it right arm and so I think what happens is a lot of times through the interview process. You see you know you fall in love with the guy and then you start ignoring worrying all the things that all of the ball people are telling you. And because it's not my job to evaluate and pick franchise quarterback but what I do know. Is Anytime disaster. Disaster happens and then all of the stories start to leak out about who picked to the front office and the coach Aren't aligned. It never works. There's always some fallout and people we'll get fired and they ended up having to move on because he wasn't the guy and the development wasn't there because he didn't believe in the first place finally Ohio state won't be without their star defensive end for much longer longer chase young will be reinstated next week after a two game suspension. He will miss this weekend's match up with rutgers but will be available for the last two games of the season which which are huge against number nine Penn state's and Number Fifteen Michigan. Yeah no and now play in the playoffs so I think I think I just talked to somebody yesterday and they. Hey think he's GonNa go number four in the draft because Since he's taken to dolphins are GonNa take borough role or Justin Herbert and then Who's WHO's crappy also up there? There's another lousy team that needs a quarterback. Somebody's GONNA move up to get a quarterback and then chase Chesham. We'll go to you know if the jets win he'd go to the jets who they need. Yeah he'll be the first non quarterback by the way I will say this. He'll be the first non quarterback taken. That's great check out the left. Tackle Georgia just that kid is the closest thing to Tyron Smith of the cowboys. I have seen since Tyron Smith came into the League watch. The kid is really good was trying to convince us that the Bengals to take him back the best prospect. I told him after though. Like you're giving me so much anxiety. You gotTa take a quarterback if you are the bengals you can't go with the best take chase young and Cincinnati. You're the bears okay. Great you'll have a corner that's just a gift to everyone else. Thinks in having a gift of the steelers for thirty years with the news. Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by to her. We were talking about this the NFL talking about Baker her about how you know ten games ago Baker Mania now. He's not even the best guy with the mustache in the AFC playing quarterback just think about this and there's really there's no rhyme or reason why it happens it's just unlike the NBA. Where you you know? Anthony Davis and Lebron play together for the next three years in her mostly healthy. They're gonNA Bunch of Games Choline. Paul George GonNa win a bunch of games I can look at Utah's roster. They're going to be good for the next four or five years same with Denver Milwaukee Boston you can see. It doesn't work that way in the NFL. Just think about about this thinking about these three teams how easy it is in the NFL to fall into crisis mode La chargers last year number one seed in the FC. Philip rivers had a great year. Now they're in third place Philip rivers. They're ready to draft another quarterback. Melvin Gordon contract not great little bit of a so sore issue battle line not gonNA make the playoffs. Suddenly don't look nearly as captivating as the raiders. Let's go to other Chicago bears. We don't have a first round. Pick in a year of good quarterbacks and we don't have a quarterback you don't look nearly as talented as Minnesota and Aaron Rodgers now as a running game in a defense man overboard rams people were copying the rams in the off season there were copying them if you had lunch with Sean mcvay. Hey you got a job. They are now crisis on the offensive line crisis. Would Todd Gurley. I still believe in Jared Goff. I think that's offensive of line issues very top heavy and you continued. Ask yourself how are they gonNA pay for all these people like the rams were being copied. We were saying on this show last year. The chargers have the best Rostro in the league and the Chicago. Bears look like Oh oh Aaron Rodgers is just going to slowly disappear into the NFL ether and three teams bears airs chargers. Rams crisis happens really really fast in the NFL. Appreciate what you you have rams have multiple crises on their hands. Line running back. I am Nick Right. Talked about this on first things first this morning the rams went from the the hottest item out there to something. That's going to be left on the shelves for years to come. I fear because they they got the biggest cabinet and football for running back next year the biggest cap it in football for any player next turn golf. They've got the second-biggest cap it for any player in football in Aaron Donald they just traded traded for Jalen like they have a team that is built to win right now and they don't show the ability to do it. Yeah it's they are way way top-heavy all right around the corner. SEC's got three of the top. Five teams Lsu Bama Georgia. I don't have a problem with it. I'm sure sure the store will will argue about that coming up next. Be Sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern not. Am Pacific when it comes to sports. 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Calls Perfection Code Her twenty percents off. I'm pretty fast reading that stuff. It's called a professional. How are you good to see you? And what's going on. Well you guys give me notes and and so you know the notes this week are all making crazy statements so let me start your off the rails okay. Okay first of all go and this is was just my theory and I made this theory. Last week is that I watched the draft. And I watch mock drafts. And I watch recruiting and I watched the Games. No other conference can give me. I don't think. Lsu Bama it just looks different guys come out and they go LSU won. I got I got Georgia. Four got Bama Five. They're telling me that I don't have a problem. This committee San kind of like to set it up. Yep So we can get to SEC teams in here. Maybe I think that they you know they clearly value that conference. They've got the the the top undefeated team. The top one loss team in fact back to the top one loss teams at the top two loss team so they clearly value the SEC. You have a problem with that. Hi I'm not not in the sense that I think that the top five teams in the SEC. You see a really good. They're all top. Fifteen programs in the country. Auburn could be five. They beat Oregon. Yeah I mean listen. They're really good at the top. And I think the hard part and this and this is not a knock against the committee because I think it's a really tough job in particular. This instance Colin. There was not a great way to to slot four through ten four or through nine right. There really wasn't a lot of easy answers. The frustration comes in for people that aren't in the south or sec country or art sec people. The problem is is that you can see them us. One rationale in one spot and then it's not afforded other teams not specific on the specifically. They clearly value the fact. That Georgia has really quality wins. Right should matter. Okay should matter They also lost to South Carolina and by the committee's own admission the second best win of any team in the top. Ten is Minnesota over Penn State. So why isn't that honored. So that's why Penn Penn State. Maybe they don't think is highly of them but they do because they rated them ninth great number all it's better than Auburn's number right so so you're telling me that like oh Georgia carried the day with great wins. And I'm not disputing the fact they do have a really quality wins but to suggest. Minnesota's win over Penn State is not more quality eighty or at a higher capacity. Is Flat wrong. Factually based on the rankings that them the committee themselves gave us all right. So that's the only okay so we got to go number one in the draft. Come down fall into this camp. Jonesboro throws a couple nice screen passes. Now you've got Tom Brady coupling we got him a couple of throws down field those athletes and suddenly the heat. This guy is going to change the league. Listen you want everything to be definitive right like you want everything to be. This is not definitive most of is no. It's not actually. This is going to be incredibly fluid in fact the top. Three maybe four five quarterbacks I think teams all over the NFL are going to have them slotted very differently Jonesboro very might well end up being the number one pick in the draft to might end up being the number one pick in the draft. Herbert might end up being the number one pick in the draft. There is not going to be a consensus around these quarterbacks. They all have strengths. They all have some weaknesses. I think that the most well rounded of those three in particular is actually Joe Borough. Oh and what he's proven out. How come how states they get out of here? Urban Meyer is pretty smart and get out of here. Dwayne Haskins was pretty special. He broke drew raises single season records in almost every single category so they had two guys that were clearly special. quarterbacks one of them was younger Dwayne Haskins and they actually thought he was going to be around for longer. They thought they were going to get more here. Settled Wayne Haskins there with him. Joe Borough then was afforded the opportunity you see. You've not like about borough. That's not what I don't like about. You could have a room full of models when the supermodel walks in. You're like Oh. She's a supermodel to is Russell. Wilson left handed. He doesn't even look the same as me and I love to I love 'em came off the surgery table. An hour later aren't of the issue with two. Is that when you look at his splits and watch his games when he faces his toughest competition and the level of his play goes down we should. They're better teams well. Then why does Joe Boroughs go up. Well why did Baker Mayfield's go up. Why did cuyler Murray's go up like there are other quarterbacks that played better statistically against their better competition in one of the other things that too is going to have to at least show is that he can be healthy? Remember in a a lot of these games against tough competition. He hasn't been health now. That's fair that that joint. I both said this so he. He's wonderful call. I'm with you like he might be the number one pick. There's no doubt to say it's concrete. Definitive at this point is short-sighted at best all right not a shot at me cheap shot right I try to make this thing work. I try to be a professional Albert guys throwing arrows at me every fifty trying to be definitive in November worse. Look I want you to live the way chase young might get sick selected number one. God don't even go well. He's the best prospect. There's no doubt draft seriously. Don't even go there is he. Not If the Cincinnati bengals they may they may not. I'm just telling you I would be I will. I will demand this network. Take the Bengals logo off all of our cards you will. You're going to demand go up stairs. Shanks they don't exist interested franchise interesting so if they take the best overall player that's what you'll say he's not Khalil Mack not worth a point in an NFL. Okay okay. That's fine. Aaron Rodgers is worth eleven. You gotta take the quarterback. I don't listen I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying that. None of those quarterbacks are the level of prospects that chase youngest. I believe that there's only one guy a draft where you can be like. That's a hall of fame. Talent and chase young is is that guy you can see him with a gold jacket. There's no doubt and by the way the second most I would say advantageous aspect of any team has the ability to rush the passer. You gotta get like Bill. Walsh said you get a lead and then what do you do you. You got to rush the highest totally disagree with that premise. The first thing. Is You get the house. The quarterback seconding is you get insurance for it offensive line. There's not there's not a bad team in this league with the good old line Pittsburgh Pittsburgh Radio Line Dallas grow line rams have all sorts of you know wide receivers and Aaron Donald so I downed. You're telling me that definitively you know see I know chase young. It's GonNa work out in the NFL. I know these quarterbacks. I'm not sure I'm not sure you get a lead. Listen guys listen so you guys time. That's why I'm just telling you the best prospect in the draft the NFL talent. Or excuse me the the only one with hall of fame mm projection talent is chase young. They're going to select the CORTEX. Someone's going to select a quarterback number one as they probably should because you can't win anything without a corvette I'm telling you there's not a consensus consensus number one quarterback in this draft gone fifteen seconds without cheap shot won't take on before segment on. Let's go so I said this again. This is it's outrageous. How marginalized I just said Mart? Savings Sixty eight okay. TV offers out there too is leaving best player. He's ever had the position. The game now unfortunately unfortunately is not moving toward him away from six weeks to prepare. He can't stop top quarterbacks he's losing really good assistant that Peak Caroline Mack Brown out and urban and a Florida oh by the way. Transfer portal a control freak guys thing leave early signing period. It's you can't. You can't go to Georgia Georgia House. And I think nick thinks about retirement. I think he thinks about it more driving to work listening to this show which he always does he thinks about it. Am I nuts on that closer zinc. I'm sure everybody at that age and at that point in their career at least thinks about it. I'm not telling you wrong. I'm just going to tell you. I don't think that the game has passed jumped off of that cliff with you. A couple of years ago is not going to jump on me. I didn't really. I feel like you like we both kind of jumped off there. It was like being on. You know you you pushed me. I was I was headfirst. Sabin is still. I think the the elite coach in college denying now by has been the best coach of this generation. I'm sure that at some points he thinks about. Hey when is it going to be my time to pass this off to somebody but the hard part is that you had urban Meyer with a succession plan with Ryan Day. You had bob stoops with a succession plan with a Lincoln Riley Knicks problem. Well it's not but it but it's also it's hard word to think about. What is this program going to be when you lose that? Many assistant coach Knicks problem. I'm not saying that it is it should about nick. Do you want to step away knowing that. There's not a succession plan. Hey I always said when I leave here I hope my time slot plummets. How you think? That's so good. You think I want to leave here in the ratings go. Well you're a level four liter. Then you've read Jim Collins Book this network someday and literally early all these guys upstairs like shut. Turn the lights off so okay. That's your one of these guys worries about the next guy. Sure because I worry about the health of the thing that's bigger than me but that's all right. The narcissism aside again achieved leader your level for leader level five leaders build an organization take to have success after their four leaders. Enjoy the success while there and then it plummets. After they're gone. NARCISSIST is strong. Yeah I'm just. I'm rooting against against this timeslot. The day I retire it's like a sprinkle of all had his he just said actively I'm rooting against this. And you know about the spring sprinkled cookie I this is not the sugar on the. That's the doughnut. Itself suffered shady. Hay Hay bales will be one hundred eight rooting for him. Whitlock will be ninety eight rooting for him this time slot down in flames okay. I'll take over this time over and it's GonNa go through the only honest one. Hey Okay one thing there. We're not going to your ridiculous upset of the week. This a very interesting weekend Lou. Holtz wants told me personally as he said you never get the same nineteen year old back to back weeks college. Sure girlfriend midterm agree. We got upsets happening. This weekend. by the way watch out for IOWA OVER MINNESOTA MINNESOTA SODA had that they won the super bowl last year last week. Right on the road to Iowa number two years ago how been beat Penn State in that epoch game was saquon Barkley and J. T. Barrett. What happened the very next week? Both Law Ohio state goes to Iowa and got their doors okay. Lsu Watch out and by the way LSU goes to Ole miss back to back road games LSU won their super bowl last week. I could see that being a little bit of a tangle late in the game people like what's wrong with. Lsu those are vying the first time a real upset I think LSU could lose this weekend. I really do. I wouldn't be shocked. I'll just say that they're much better. Obviously sleep an old miss but again the Lou Holtz theory. You don't get kids you don't same on back to that we all right Only at Walmart Michelin Endurance. Xt Silicone wiper blades. They clear out the windshield. So you can see college football takes clearly can see your sprinkle of narcissism there and then it wipes it away again. It just it's a series of shots. What's -joy I was just saying what joy said? It's the heard be sure to catch live editions of the heard. Weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am Pacific on Fox. Sports Warts radio APP S. one and the iheartradio APP discover dot com slash travel. They have the discovery miles card. Use It new card members. They gotta deal all your numbers all your. You're miles first year get double thirty-five could be seventy thousand I've been scheduling a Lotta offseason travel this week and and I saw in the season football season Nj get some Fridays off initiative Bon vivants. We're going all over the place craziness England's England that's right my mom's home country go over there. I'm very popular. What be cold there you ago? Yeah it's always cold August is called it'll be it'll be wet and rainy All right so I go to. PF DOT com. And what I love about it if you're a fantasy football player and there's a lot of you that play fantasy football if you're a gambler I think the information Is is great and I love. They brought in Bruce Grad cousy. WHO's a former? NFL quarterback for over a decade in a league. So so he can watch film. They can give you the analytics. Let's go to Bruce via the cower global satellite network. So let's start what we don't have to get into the data and rankings. Let's just start though. PF upgrades every quarterback every guard in every tackle. But what I like what you guys doing. You're grading system. Interception isn't always the quarterbacks fault there are throws rose then there are tough throws you watch every place so based on your rankings. All in what's your top five at. PF well right now calling especially coming off this last week. Right our top quarterbacks look at it trubisky is Ta. He's number two This past week so a lot of things got wow this past weekend in the NFL but overall look Russell Wilson Number One. He's our guy he's our man. twenty-seven big time throws this year. The only six turnover worthy plays two hundred two hundred perceptions on the year. I mean as can be as lowest total he's embarking on the guys played out of this World World Lamar Jackson coming in at number two. We see what he's doing with his legs with his arms command. The how what he's bringing to the Baltimore Ravens Carson. Wentz is even up there number three and this is talking overall all year so for Aaron Rodgers and then it rounds out the top five drew brees and as we know drew brees that you know the that shore level passing game. Just how accurate he is. That's why he grace so well for us because his accuracy is just so much better than than we we see. Now I thought Dak Prescott played his best game as a cowboy thought. He moved. Well I thought he was accurate. You know it's funny Bruce. I don't feel Oh. He's a natural thrower. He often feels like a pitcher. Who doesn't get good until the fifth or sixth inning? I think he ends up throwing his best balls later in the game. He gets into a motion. I don't think he's a natural literal. Throw or like an Aaron Rodgers way. What are you see not only with the analytics? What you see on film with decked alike and make concern you see the thing I love the most about deck right now is his poise? His confidence his commanded the offense. You seem out there. Audible ing to his is offense. LIOTTA's wide receivers getting the offense into the right plate correct time and the right down a distance third down these executing. Well you know this past last week he he played he plays so well this whole year. That we've graded so far for Dak in a clean pocket. The Dude is playing out of this world. So he's very good from McLean pocket. I have some concerns late in the ballgame that fourth down at five. He took his match up with Zeke running back on a linebacker. We'd like that matchup. Not Quite sure though Zeke. He's not the the best pass catcher type receiver where he had Randall Cobb in the slot. He could work work on that fort down at five. That situational football those are big plays a key moments. I want to continue to elevate his game in those moments. But I'll tell you what a clean pocket playing well in the best thing I love about like. I said his poise his composure. His command of the offense. I love of seeing his growth. Now Cowboy Games are on nationally every week Arizona's or not the kid. I'm watching that. I've been really blown away with rookie. Head coach below average offensive. Line is Tyler Murray again. What are you seeing when you look at the twenty two film in the game? What are you seeing? I love his competitiveness. Look we'd like Collor Murray coming out of college. PFM High we knew he'd be playing basically the way he's playing mouse. We're not surprised but the thing I love about Colin Murray. I think he's game is more sustainable than a Lamar Jackson. You see how accurate he is with the football bowl the way he can add limit make place when he's running the football he looks like Barry Sanders out there. He's not taking these nasty hits his body. And I I love the competitiveness every game Kala Murray's in it's going to be a close game. Yeah he's always playing from behind. You seem in that two minute office so I think he's doing a terrific the job. So do I and I think this this needs to be said. He's playing from behind a lot. It's much tougher for these quarterbacks Lamar when he had to play behind against Cleveland did not looked. Looked like the same quarterback. So I I agree with you. I think I think keiler is not getting the love because he plays for the fourth best team in his division. I WanNa talk about Lamar because I do think he adds a dynamic I don't think GM's look at that and go get me Lamar. I don't think he exists on the market. I do think to a is. Tyler is Russell Wilson. I've seen that Lamar's just unique. I don't think there's I don't think there's another Lamar on the market. Are there things you like and are there things you don't love. I'll tell you what Lamar Jackson had me sewed in Seattle the game. He played not because of the statistics. You no he can run for third down. He can make those plays but his competitiveness. I watch him out there when he went to John. Harbaugh aside Ceylon fourth down and say let's let's go forward when I saw him be competitive out there trying to get first downs. He crosses the defense on Third Dow's when he dropped back to pass. Nothing's nothing there. He takes off to get the first down. The Guy I'm seeing a make plays to from the pocket. He's been accurate with the football. Can he come from behind win. Some big games throughout throughout their stress. Save some tough games that they're going to play the rest of the season. How can you come from behind it? Play well Lamar. I love what he's doing but more importantly what John Hardball On that Coaching Staff is doing is very impressive to me. It makes me realize there are coaches out there. That put their egos to the side and say look so. Let's build the offense around players. We have the talent we have in this building. And that's what the Baltimore Ravens are doing. And that's why they're playing so well. I think the surprise of the League Bruce Grad Caskey over a decade in the NFL PF DOT COM by the way go there a premium analysis the Promo Code Qb twenty-five Twenty uh-huh five percent off. I go there I love it. The raiders have shocked me and Derek Carr who I always feel is the COMP is. He's a little Tony Romo. Oh good on his feet lively arm not a great arm. Little bit of a playmaker with his feet It willing to take some risks throws the ball downfield but not ideal size not the ideal deal cannon. But I'm not sure if Derek Carr leads this team you look at the film Bruce who does you. You have to look at the quarterback position I dare cars leading. PF in a clean pocket series. Play very well. He's making the necessary place he has to. I think Jon Bruno do a great job with this scheme. Their cars hitting the big time throws down here when he's getting them. But you have to look at Josh. Jacobs what he's doing highest greater rookie so for for this year. He's explosive he's efficient. He has great vision and his balance. When he gets hit to break tackles is praise second We have right now. outbreaking tackles so you have to look at that offense and not just their car. But what Josh Jacobs. A young rookie has really brought to this Oakland Raiders. There's football team. Yeah it's funny Bruce. I watched the raiders thus Thursday night and all three running backs. They're they're all a little Josh Jacobs. He's the best of them they're very they're small their the power they bounce off. It's so Jon Gruden who you know. Well it such a gruden running back position now I WANNA shift to this. I've said this before I watch New England. I lived in Connecticut for a decade and its efficiency. There's no question but they have no vertical threat. Ab and Josh Gordon. I'm gone they don't really have a tight end threat. They're on their third left. Tackle and their third kicker that I'm not trying to be hyperbolic after losing to Baltimore Two more but Bruce I do not see in this league right now. The kind of offensive players that forced defensive coordinators to make choices choices. I think they're an easier team to defend the red zone. Numbers show it. I don't buy New England's offense it doesn't feel like a super bowl winning offense to me. What are the numbers say? What's the tape? Say to you well call. And you're right. They don't have the weapons that are used to round Tom. Brady I love the addition edition of Muhammed Sununu. I played with him in Cincinnati. I feel like deck is Brady a big target in the middle of the field that he can work. They don't have tied that can win and make plays like rock did I. I look at Mohammed so new Julian Edelman of the tight end versions of a wide receiver. Let them work the middle of the field. Let them bring you. The plays is that they can make. But you have to look at the defense and what Bill Belichick does every week there's a little nuance to the defense. And how to stop teams. They're very talented. Defensively I believe so for that. That's why they could possibly make a super bowl. Run in you know Josh mcdaniels and Tom Brady go find a way they always do. But I'm very very eager to watch what happens. Could you write. Call it with the weapons around Brady. How far can this patriots offense go by the way? Finally the Rams everybody's bailing on Jared Gov okay and Sean mcvay the genius cards expired. What do you see as a ten eleven year? NFL quarterback what is the tape. Say Well this year you know Goth number one is not playing as WHOA. He's as he did last year from a clean pocket. And you have to understand. He's not playing with a clean pocket often. That offensive line's struggling now. They're dealing with some injuries losing allen for the year the right tackles out prey. Oh week or so. Oh so now. They have to supplement new guys in their last year. They had a lot of continuity with the offensive line. Todd Gurley was playing good early on in the year. They they just. They can't find the rhythm look Cooper Cup. Two hundred yards against the bengals last week against the steelers zero catches only four targets. So I just really think this offense needs to come together and figure out what their identity is and I think Sean mcvay Hogan back in that laboratory. He's like a mad scientist. Ho figure figure it out. I think Whitworth I played with him in Cincinnati. He's a good team leader. They have to figure it out. They have to protect quarterback. First and foremost and Sean McVeigh Gin. That lab dow some because you have to scheme better and make more plays offensively. Yeah they had a little crisis guard center guard right now with injuries spruce Grad cousy eleven years the league. PF DOT com. Thanks Bruce good talking to you fast calling you to. Yeah by the way the I was just looking at this real quick right now the difference between the NFC and AFC just looking at this. The it's incredible. How much better the? NFC is the last two teams to make the Super Bowl in the NFC. The Rams and Philly would not make the playoffs today the all the teams in the NFC right now that lead their division or the the plan if we had the playoffs today today the season today the NFC playoff teams are Dallas Green Bay Minnesota Saint San Francisco. Seattle does our does knows all of those. Barring a health issue can get to the conference championship this morning in the season stopped. Here's the AFC standings a Buffalo team. That can't score twenty-third a steelers. Team with Mason Rudolph. Kansas City's abysmal on defense and Houston who nobody trusts the gap between the AFC and NFC. By the way if new the England loses this weekend to Philadelphia off a bye then that Baltimore thing is not an aberration. They just don't have the offense everybody spending all this time banging on the Patriots Defense Against Baltimore in move the ball very well and I was looking at the numbers this morning this and again. This is with Belle. Check Josh mcdaniels and Brady. They are Dr Sixteenth New England. Third Down offense third down efficiency fifty. Total offense twenty-first red zone offense twenty-third inrushing. Tom Brady's like we don't have an identity. They don't New England's offense it. You can't win the Super Bowl. His offense joy with the news on the news. This is the headline news again. I'm not ready to say no not at all if they was any other team in the NFL. I Would Dahlia agrees with Sunday night. They lose to Philadelphia Twenty eight twenty four off a bye and can't really move the ball. You're not gonna I believe it when I see it. I am not rooting for that. But I just they. They always seem to find a way so the cowboys time stopping the run against the Vikings on Sunday Nights Minnesota one hundred fifty three yards and touchdown and when asked how he would describe his team's performance with the run defense. Jerry Jones had an interesting analogy black black holding two handfuls. Pull a Jello and about the time that you stop it from coming out the middle finger by the forefingers pass at the time you started over there then starts coming out the other side and that's what makes is game so great. That's what makes the challenge so great and and You think you've got it figured out and Two Games later the defense you face. We'll have had it figured out for Martini breakfast. I don't understand what he's San never tried to hold Jello in my hands That usually comes in sort of a container or you know if you're for Jello shots it's kind of like a smaller. Yeah Paper container but none of them are just You know fistfuls Jelly. But very very. He's a story. He is a story historic Jerry healed every year the picture well every year the cowboys hold camp in thousand oaks. California comes down to Nobu which is a real popular restaurant. Malibu one night and holds court with all the reporters I. He likes to tell stories as he always says. I don't have time to schedule a bad storyteller Jerry Jones. You have bad times not really not too many but he is not happy with the run events that said Alice is fourteenth in the NFL allowing one hundred and three point four rushing yards per game so Not Not Awful. Not Great but that the defense is to me is not the issue with the cowboys at all. It's it's wrapping your arms around rounded the offense of identity which to me is that so Baker Mayfield that the one at home on Sunday. You were not impressed with this win. I was but he wasn't very happy with the browns fans that were there. He mentioned after the game. The crowd noise is a factor clarified. That he wasn't talking about the visitors I wasn't that is just the fact that we're on offense offense. We needed to be quiet. Might have ruffled some feathers. That's once again that's okay but when we're often critical down You know we need to be able to have silence in her home stadium. It's got to be an advantage for us. And then when they get the ball. It's got to be really left. Let's just face but you know it's interesting on this joy if I said to. You guessed the line for the game Thursday. Now it's Pittsburgh at Cleveland now. Now it's interesting because I just guessed the line I'm Mason. Rudolph it off. Though I'm guessing that the steeler while I don't know I don't know interesting I would think feelers will be favored by seven and this is our favorite by seven. Isn't that amazing. And by the way it's one of those they're begging you to take vegas saying. Please take Cleveland Blend. And when they do that. There's another line okay here. I'll give you another one. Just slow this one out so the jets very good this weekend right. The jets are an underdog at Washington. Vegas is begging you to take the jets. Well I mean that's silly. You would think that but every time Vegas is saying please. He's bet the jet and please the the the Browns that tells me a lot of points seven in the NFL. Let's what time out. That's not what it says is a line change. Somebody's yelling in my ear. Hold on WHO's a Alex. What line am I looking at them? The wrong one. He says Brown favored by three. Okay looking that sounds. More reasonable steelers favored by seven after the bills. Winfield thing rebooted five yeah. I got brownies sources on here. Browns by three is much more realistic. Although I still believe that the steelers favored by the way now I get in Pittsburgh now now I kind of love the steelers Anyway Baker talking about games that have already passed. Just stop talking about the Games. That aren't it's very simple. Don't talk about Roy over and don't precise browns fans they've been through all right. I've never around fan my life except for one time when I left but other that they've been through a whole lot. I can't relate to it unless you want to call being it often stand that we've got sunshine down there so I duNno. Just stop criticizing them. They can share as much as they want. Anything at your for a long time. Finally get some huge news last night on. WWe backstage here on episode one CNN. punk made a surprise appearance and announced he will now be part of the show he retired from the wwe five years ago and went on to be after and UFC fighter. But now he's back and and you can see see 'em honk on. WWe backstage Tuesday nights at eleven eastern here on F S. Why he came on my show once he was becoming a UFC fighter? which which is? I think that's a that's a tough job to transfer into member he'd never done. UFC fighter he did. It fought and it wasn't good well You know wrestlers are extremely tough and have a very very high pain tolerance but obviously UFC. Fighting is very specific art. You know making the the transition into that can be deployed for anybody but he's back with WBZ now on w. w. w. e. backstage on F s one so. We're happy to have him back he's also a huge Chicago Sports Fan. I anti gun crazy. So if you took the best if you took floyd mayweather and you took connor when they boxed obviously mayweather weather one right what if you allowed mayweather and Conor McGregor Diaz to do some UFC principles we all realize the UFC guy could win to write. Like if I if I if floyd and Connor would have met and you could kick no. That's yeah of course that was the big discussions surrounding that fight. You'RE NOT GONNA put put Floyd in Dr Gone. That just doesn't work like there's no cause there's just there's too many other ways to lose. That's why people don't go undefeated and UFC because it's just there's too many factors involved in it No word on his future yet but find out more on. CNN punk Next Tuesday on W. W. E. backstage here on F. That's why all right joy with news. Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by her by Cleveland favored by a three. My bed as my bad the number was Kooky okay but the but the jets numbers still out there. which is a nutty number? That's Washington's favored over the jets. They're begging you begging you to be in Vegas begging you to take the jets which tells tells me Washington's GonNa win that's how it works. They don't give away money. That's casinos are they not. They're not they're not built on winter. No not very charitable in the money thing coming up next A playoff or takeoff of the seven eight nine ten teams. We know we know New England GonNa make the playoffs but largely. We know the saints are GonNa make the playoffs probably San Francisco unless they dovetail but playoff for takeoff d. a. by the teams the eight or nine that are on the bubble. AFC NFC. That's coming up in best for last one more heard the heard streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio APP. Search her to listen live or on demand whenever you like I am Dr Supplement. I use every morning drive from N.. Dot Com code her twenty percent off. Good stuff best for last today we thought there are so many teams seven weeks left in the NFL. Season don't complete playoff picture yet. Seventeen teams seventeen over half a liter above five hundred. Only twelve. Make the playoffs. So we thought there's all these things thank you know these teams sort of hanging in the balance do we think they're playoff teams or their takeoff teams. They're done so John here. We Go and now Colin Colin will decide if a team is headed for the playoffs playoffs or taking off for vacation gentleman. This is your captain speaking. Please turn yourself securely playoff or take off all right. Let's start with the Philadelphia Eagles playoff or take you know. I like a lot about them he do. GM coach quarterback take off plans. Gentlemen this is your candidate speaking to please turn yourself securely to Sean Jackson's gone I don't don't get deep threat. I think they're very good running team. WHO throws well on play action? But when I look at them they've been inconsistent. They've never beaten Zeke. They can't seem to stop Zeke. The remaining games I got the Patriots got Seattle. I Got Dallas by the way at Miami is no Gimme the way their plan. I think Sean Jackson Axon leaves. They lose their deep threat on the outside looking in I agree the Minnesota Vikings play off. Why this is a playoff? Listen they they have an identity Kennedy. They play really good defense. They're kind of conservative on offense. I think there's a ceiling because of that. And they run the heck out of the football they got some real winnable games. CHARGERS DETROIT GOT A by right Denver Chicago to play off team at the Carolina Panthers. I liked him for a long time after this weekend. They are a takeoff gentlemen. This is your candidate speaking. Please easterners of insecurity. Okay Kyle Allen. Nobody had film on Him Right. It was pretty good. Didn't have a pick I five games. Now he's got five in the last three their last in the NFL and red zone offense again. He's a nice transition piece but as people get more and more video and film on deck he gets better they get more on Kyle. He hit a wall By the way twenty-six third down offense. They just don't pick up enough. I down for me. We saw last weekend against Green Bay. Not Enough I down the the Los Angeles Rams play opera. Take off take off Clinton. Gentlemen this is your captain speaking please terms open securely day don't Dabbagh crisis it's called guard center guard their offensive line and is in good. It's mangled They're they've they're walking on eggshells regarding Todd Gurley. I do think their defense is good. jalen Ramsey ice pickup And I and I do think they'll be in game. Two Pittsburgh game is what they're going to look like against Chicago. They're going to be an every game because they play real deep bench with Wade Phillips. oops but golf. Now's got fourteen turnovers third most in the NFL. They have sixteen turnovers most by a winning team. They're just not very good very efficient. Offensively The Dallas Cowboys Cowboys Playoff for takeoff playoff. Why offs there's there's a ceiling I don't know what their offense of identity is. But you can't get past these numbers number one in total offense number one in third down offense and only eleven sacks allowed. This team is back doc and this offensive line and they remind me to be honest as a little bit of a St look to him. Although I think there are significantly better quarterback when you have the best offensive line in football and multiple pieces around the online. That's a playoff team now ceiling because I don't like their offense of identity but talk to you steelers and cowboys fans would fight you on that one buffalo bills playoff or take off take off. I think they're going to wilt down the stretch. Gentlemen this is your Captain Speaking and please turn herself insecurity. They haven't beaten a team with a winning record again. They're just they're just not very good offensively The more we see on Josh Allen the the less I like him the more I see on like Lamar Jackson the more I like him. I think it's a really well coached team with an incredibly low offensive. sealink link the Pittsburgh steelers. I think there are playoff team playoffs. Mike Tomlin never had a losing season by the way Mike Tomlin has had to play coach. A lot of games without big band do you not is without Big Ben. Fifteen and ten K.. If you look at their remaining schedule winnable games. This is an offensive offensive line story only eleven sacks allowed. That's with Mason Rudolph. WHO's not a runner? They run the football well with second and third tier running backs this offensive line and that front seven defensively in a weaker. AFC they're going to end up winning tomorrow night and make it to the playoffs and they're like it was going to be a disaster and they really turned that around the colts playoff or takeoff team. I liked early. Take off when is gentlemen. This is your captain speaking to please terms of insecurity. I know Andrew Luck retired. It was fashionable to say. Look at Jacoby Brusett. Yes look at him he is hurt and he's not Andrew Lock. Let's Stop Andrew. Luck is a generational talent jacoby percents a franchise quarterback but they're just not special offensively anymore. They they feel very T. Y. Hilton dependent on the perimeter They're they're a very young team. They're well coached team. But you don't trust Adam Viteri Jacoby percents coming back hurt you know. I see a lot of losing games down the stretch at Houston at New Orleans Carolina Jacksonville or tough games like so much about him. But not that. The Oakland Raiders Playoff play offs. I think the steelers and the raiders make the playoffs again. I'm going to give you some numbers. Here that tells you GRUDEN's helped the offensive of line. So their fourth and third down offense they pick up first downs offensive line. Only eight turnovers quarterback what had boost Radke radke say Derek Carr clean pocket only twelve sacks allowed third fewest. This is an offensive line story. It's not a GRUDEN story. 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Starts of the Week + Week 12 Breakdown, The Walrus and the Hare

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Starts of the Week + Week 12 Breakdown, The Walrus and the Hare

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The podcast is live. Oh everyone this gets dream in football time followed by the hays. How Jason's high kicks? That'll be helpful. Mike Kicks they're going to be to the highest you've been I mean you've been working out well. Over a year now and stretching hamstring. Every single time has not made a difference. I know I know hamstrings strings. I can't touch my knees. That's how that's how far I can get. Would your trainer feel exceptionally guilty. If after a year and a half that you finally get a note from the doctor like this man has no Hamstring I think he would feel better about hitting he would say thank goodness because I was embarrassing for me. What is going going on? Why can't this guy ever teams? Every time he tells you the same thing. No no no straighten the leg. And you're like this is not shots like I can straighten my leg when you're winning. I'm standing being flat. My I can get my life straight but not when you ask me move my leg at the hip we do have Thursday night football now. They'll eventually they. They quit on the Thursday night football at some point before the season's sends over so true football. Just count your blessings. You got it right now. There's only a few remaining. That's right you can follow the show on instagram. INSTAGRAM DOT com slash fantasy. Fantasy footballers appreciate everybody supporting the show subscribing the reviews. They help out a lot. You can listen on Apple podcasts. On spotify you can listen to add free. On stitcher premium we just had the blitz the newsletter. Go out today the five biggest stories and fantasy. Football hit your inbox. You can check that out on the website as well. Here's is your quick question for the day before we get into fantasy. Forecast starts of the week. The boom boom kicker in some news. Here's a question who is an under the radar or underrated fantasy player that could end up on a majority of title winning teams this season. I'll I'll jump right in. Its Guy I talked about a little bit yesterday. I'm GonNa talk about him a lot more today but I really love Philip. Linzie going forward forward if you look at the remaining schedule on the season not just playoffs. But the entire rest of the season the number one best matchup strength schedule-wise four running backs is the Denver Broncos and what we saw coming out of there by was they said it's going to be the Philip Lindsay. Show it was. He got sixteen carries against a tough MINNESOTA. Vikings likings defense but from here on out the toughest match up that they have is actually this week against Buffalo. And that's that's a plus matchup for a running back in general. They've got the chargers the Texans the chiefs and the lions to finish out the season. That is just such a good stretch run. And I think it's it's going to coincide with the exact same time where he's getting the ball right. Now he's been in a fifty fifty timeshare. He's running back fourteen. He's not been bad ED. He's he's broke or was he bad. In this vikings matchup he was sixteen for sixty seven. That's four point to a Carey Freeman. Had half the amount of Carey's and if you go back to October it was fifty fifty. Yeah I mean you just look at the snap percentages. I'll bring them up later. Spoiler Phillipines started the week. So he's my start of the rest of the season I was gonna say wow I really do like the rest of the way. I'll be surprised if he's if from here on out. He's not a top twelve back. All Right Mike who do you got all right as as I was trying to figure out the answer to this question one. You already know we've been we've been talking about Devante. Parker is just sneakily. End Up being one of these league winning guys and I gotTa take it up a notch allman gotta take it up a notch and I was reminded of a few years ago when it was Blake bortles season season and he was. There was the semis or the championship. Week where he was my My stream and my start like like everything. I went fully into Blake bortles because he was playing San Francisco at the time and then and then things started out horrifically bad and then he turned into three hundred. Eighty passing yards two touchdowns thirty one rushing yards and blake bortles totally came through and one people championships from the waiver. Wire and look look. You can't have devante Parker without fits magic whose whose schedule is equally as juicy. The jets the giants and the Cincinnati. Eddie Bangles Fourteen or sixteen. Look for Ryan Fitzpatrick to or I should say hopefully do not see him opposing you. What you you roll Poland Championship Week? You've got your stack roster you look over at your lowly opponent. WHO's got to Miami Dolphins and you laugh and hopefully you? You will be the one laughing last because you may not. I feel like the Ryan Fitzpatrick when you look at the consistency chart for him on the season. I'm picturing a you've got an open open-field and you tell somebody that there's a treasure out there there. There's two treasures like the moon and the rest. Their there land mines all over the field. Now go dig up something sure and because two times this year. He has been a top ten quarterback so mike the Pride that you'd be the amount of ridicule you could bestow upon your opponent if you won a fantasy playoff matchup is Ryan Fitzpatrick. Just just saying get get ready for and the truth is people. Don't think you're going to be stuck in that position but you don't know. Injuries may come about Stafford owners. All of a sudden had to play Jeff Driscoll. Hopefully hopefully you don't have to endure the the tilt in the panic. In the hot sweats that will shortly come from starting Ryan Fitzpatrick. That's on the back of the prescription bottle. Four Ryan Fitzpatrick side effects may include of the commercial. That's right it's a really long. Yeah but just saying lookout. Now that's like when you don't have insurance if you got insurance. You've just got Lamar Jackson. But it's like I'm uninsured. Right now I've got to get the generic op counter stuff with all the terrible side sided. That's Fitzpatrick Yeah. Just take the back of the bottle. For Josh Rosen is much worse. Let's put it that way. You know you gotta go out of country for Josh Rosen. That's just what the I think. Those pills recalled sign. They don't have never positive effect and there is no advocacy. All Right Baker Mayfield is the name the moment of bring up and I say underrated at this point or maybe properly rated. I don't know who knows. Baker has been bad for fantasy owners. He was drafted Everywhere people wanted the next Patrick mahomes season they did not get it. However weeks fourteen and fifteen? It's Cincinnati Natty at home and then it's Eh arisen. In Arizona is bleak they just gave up the two biggest games of Jimmy Garoppolo career fantasy wise. They they gave up. The first day went to the drawing board. They said we can't let this happen again. And in two weeks later they gave up the second because they don't fix problems and and we're out here in Phoenix and the one thing that's wrong about their defense is not that they don't have athletes is that they don't apparently know how to game. Plan a recognize things on the field. That's why we can joke about the tight end scoring every time on them and make fun of it and then they're defensive coordinator can say. Yeah we know that we're going to stop it. And then nothing happens and then some dude named dwelling yeah off the streets course touched Weli. I honestly believe this is going to be the only week all season where the title does not perform Ormeau against Arizona. Outside of that I think the rest of the season they will so Cincinnati Zona weeks. Fourteen fifteen did I not pick up on a joke. They're they're on by why. Okay Yeah I get. It wasn't so this week odds are lower but they could still give up a touchdown practice. They're gonNA get torched by time. That's that's right. That's why they signed Max Williams to a two year extension because every practice like this awesome so good side him now now to who wrote beanie season is here. Did somebody write that in. I didn't but I fully approve Brooks Brooks wants to let everyone know now. Mike's got the beanie on on today. which really is pure Mike Form? This is the Mike Right. Here's my final four. This is helps. You look. Who beanie you've always? He's been like a homeless hipster. You know what I mean and so I think that's a good wine right. Well that'll do it for the quick quick a question. Let's go into jumping the news news and notes from around the League presented by sleeper. What did I say I'd do what nobody knows? You jump into the news about a scuba do all right. The steelers are reporting. Juju Smith Smith Schuster not expected to play in week. Twelve twelve against the bengals deontay Johnson is still in the concussion protocol. He at this point Johnson did in practice and full he just needs to be cleared. I still don't think he's cleared. I you get a concussion. A man was bleeding from the from the ear. How can you clear him to go out there and have full-contact next week? That's a fair point. I think Vance McDonald is sneaky in this game. Cincinnati is such a good matchup. How sneaky extremely sneaking? Talk about him really. Oh Yeah Oh do today little teaser. Okay so you agree. We do. All Right Alshon Jeffery Limited in Wednesday's practice Nelson Aguilar did not practice. Oh that's good for wince Jordan Howard Limited so eagles still dealing with injuries. And we'll see what happens. This week woke me up to date Howard was he was in individual drills. He's still not cleared for contact. Act So yeah. And they signed a guy which meant they made of believed Howard's injury could last more than a week sure Emmanuel Sanders. deebo Samuel Samuel enjoys kettle. Were sidelined for Wednesday's practice Kyle Shanahan says all of them might be gained decisions and do their Sunday night aren't they. They're at the half. Their new is green. Bay And San Francisco. Oh Yes yes. You're right so that is most Thurston. It Oh no if you are relying on depot or am I going to play and I think that on the basis that he hurt the shoulder came out and played the remainder of the game against Arizona. Sanders is more questionable to me as because they've both missed some time are. Are you willing to pivot to a player that scored in three consecutive games named Kendrick born wide receiver for the forty niners. Are you willing to give it to him just so that you can you know I am not I am not just mocked. There's on a cardinals rightly so. He's scored three straight games. Two of those three games against Arizona. Then wasn't sure I'm sure he'll have other touchdown games in his career. But I'm not going to Kendrick born in this match up and and you know speaking of George Kill. I don't expect him to. We don't expect Jordansekulow to play. That's correct I don't expect George Gilder play in which case because it Sunday night you have to have that decision probably made like like I. I am willing unless you know. Obviously tomorrow if he gets in a S- apprising full practice in the the expectations change. I am willing to play someone in in my Sunday morning. Game as opposed to waiting to pivot to dwell or someone in the Monday night game. So is that answer Brooks question here Brooks has his own little selfish. Yeah starts it question in here. Oh yeah he says kittle dwelling so basically Kiddo with the dwelling insurance or Camembert just start break in in the morning is that right Brooks yes. That's your situation. It sure is well I would go. I go to kill dwelling around my my belief. Is that kill if he plays great in any situation so follow the practice reports maybe pivot if if something changes now. Cameron umbrella with Jay. How're getting benched for his absolute ridiculous half Catch Harlem globetrotter around the back? Back ends up being a fumble camera. Great for for those who did not pay attention ended up with fourteen targets. This past week tends to seventy three a week game. I read through his last two years game log and he doesn't do this so I'm not chasing camera doesn't but he did when when I say that I'm willing to play someone on Sunday eh versus waiting for Monday. That doesn't include camera break. I'm I'm not chasing. I think there are better options. I'm saying if you had hollister Or if you had you you know Vance McDonald that look I think more promising I would rather do Griffin Griffin for sure makes sense but if the manual sanders in Deboer Out Dwell Eight. Yeah could be right. Dwelling has not been very good if you look at his you know. He's getting a few targets and doing very little with them other than the two touchdowns against Arizona. I mean he really didn't do much. I what did we have a fourteen year fourteen yards. Aren't you just playing touchdown roulette regardless yes. But if you look at whether or not Jimmy. Garoppolo is going to keep throwing a lot of touchdowns I would bet that. He's not versus touchdown roulette with Russell Wilson and Hollister or an option like that. Yeah you're playing touchdown touchdown roulette with all these guys. I just don't believe that Garoppolo plays Arizona this week. Nobody plays the fifth or steam against tight ends. Who have given up the number one? I'm five eleven and eight in the last four matchup. So are you still confident in hollister with the activation read. Dick did yeah. I'm not I'm ah I'm not really worried about Ed Dixon. I've I've never been confident in hollister yet. I think it's to my own demise but I I'm just concerned about I'm confident dominant in starting tight. End for Russell Wilson. All Right Ed Dickson. You're talking about that remains to be seen right muhammed so new. This is breaking news. This morning he commits miss multiple weeks with a possible. High Ankle Sprain. That's terrible news for a tuna can't find a depth chart at wide receiver on a consistent basis. It seems like whoever are they put out. There gets hurt door. Set has been a little banged up right now custom protocol. They are hopeful that he will clear. But I mean Nikiel Harry we interested in here. Yes okay you had four targets three receptions for eighteen yards against Philadelphia in his debut interested enough the roster. Yeah You keep an eye on him. But I don't think you can put him in your lineup. Yeah it's IT'S STRANGE I. It might be next year when you start. Ought to be able to look at him but he was a first round. Pick we kind of dealt with this with The late season Sony Michelle. Maybe Harry by necessity comes along. I don't know Thursday night. UPDATES Jordan Wilkins removed from the colts injury. Report on Wednesday T. Y.. Hilton and Eric Brunner listeners. Questionable our number one start sick question on the website. You're the fantasy. FOOTBALL IS DOT com. If you go look at the most popular start sets Ed's Jordan Wilkins Jonathan Williams. Who Do you play between the two of them I tried to get our engineer to program in the wealth face for me for like when people ask when they answer and I just want to go. I don't know the way that I see this. Because I've I've dug deep on this as the MAC owner. I still believe Jonathan Williams is back to own. I currently have starting out of forced necessity Jordan Wilkins. I hope I'm wrong. But the reality is Jordan. Wilkins was not healthy at all last week. Missed pretty much. The entire week of practice didn't play now they haven't they. They haven't really practiced much this week. These reports of like. Oh He's taken off the report Okay the walk through Wednesday. They play today on a short week. I just I can't imagine that he's super healthy now. Like just instantly offer a injury. I mean I hope so. But I'm still rolling with Jonathan Williams over Jordan. James Conner moved from the injury report last week. He was okay. I Lean Jonathan Williams. I won't be surprised if you who are unhappy. In both circumstances Jonathan Williams picks up. You know fifty five on the ground Jordan. Wilkinson is up with nineteen yards and a touchdown touchdown. It's not looking as clear and the name Heinz will be working in the passing game basically. You're looking at three players. Playing running back for one team on Thursday was the night and you can take your shot but competence has got to be paid dwindling very low. The number four starts at question on the website. niamh aim hines versus Jonathan Williams. Mike you're on the hindsight I'm just on the hind side of I know what his role is and there is just they're just trying to look at the game script. It's very possible that the Houston Texans. Get out to a lead and then if that happens then all the Wilkins and all the Williams Owners in the land are super frustrated disappointed because it will be Nike Mines de the no doubt about it. News notes always brought to you by the sleeper APP. Don't forget about foot clan game day alerts joined the foot dot com the latest active inactive on Sunday morning. Mike is also live with Sunday. Live one hour before for kickoff. 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Vegas has it a fifty one Matt Ryan Jason's started the week. She sure is. This is going to be fantastic. Watching him torch hapless Tampa Bay buccaneers defense at home in the Dome Jameis. Winston is our consensus cubeys six so both players startle this week. Winston instant is while difficult to watch at times leading the league in air yards. Seventeen plus fantasy points in eight straight games for James. The explanation leads the league in air yards. Art and interceptions then is James. I saw someone had tweeted about Alec. Why don't you guys talking about James Turnovers ruining fantasy days? They're not because they don't Yeah He. He's been top ten three the last four week. It ruins the fact that he should be putting up top three production if he stopped having mine is six every single week he then he would be like now. Enough for van is not only minus-six but minus the ability to continue on with the drive. He was yours like if he stopped throwing these he's interceptions. He has the ability to be phenomenal. Fantasy option But that's like. That's like saying if Josh Rosen. Was Tom Brady. And he was a different person. James says we if I remember when you were me. Your body to get to. The top is the quarterback nine on the year. So you can play him. Yeah you don't have to watch. Just just take the fancy points at the end of the game. Yes Mike you brought this up in the studio Ronald Jones Starter rental jointed by head coach. which boosts Arians his NAP counts of gone down three straight weeks? Yeah look do you know what that means Bruce when you say starter. Yeah Way. More carries when he earned that job because he was in on fifty. Five percents of the snaps. Thank you thank you and he put up. The eighteen for sixty seven against Seattle had the two targets that week then then against Arizona. He had eight receptions except forty six percents senator snaps and he was okay and then all the way down to thirty one percent of snaps like that. I know I'm no wizard when it comes to the mathematics antics but my starting running back does. That's not what I do with his offensive snaps. Thirty one percent of them. Yeah that's not good. Pay Barbara had no carries last week. So so you just have it. We're getting all the Goumba Wa. They just they really got rid of the. They went away from the run last week in serious fashion. And you know that that's the result risk with their defense right and I. Yeah in in this game. I mean Matt Ryan. Is You know. My quarterback started the week. I think we all love him. And we would all play entities on your roster destroy and if he does destroy this could be another game script where it is poor for the running game of Tampa Bay. That being said I do think Ronald Joneses uses is started while I don't expect them to always be going away from the run. And the Falcons have been beatable on the ground. You know the last five games. They've played three of those games. They've given up top twelve against fantasy running backs so this you know I I think Ronald Jones is a flex option this week. devante Freeman didn't practice on wins. They Brian Hill could end up the quote unquote starter again. He did have fifteen carries last week. I don't want people to ignore that. I would play Brian Hill over Ronald Jones. Anyhow to touch agreed he had a touchdown that came. I'm back he did and there was another opportunity at the goal line. That Quadri Ellison ended up getting that carry with a giant hall. So the the I I agree Brian Hill is not dead dead in the water here from last week however this matchup on the ground has been very tough for running back skin Tampa Bay. They've they've just been outstanding. They're number two UH on the year and they've played murderers row of great running backs. Yeah you're right I mean Arizona. They shut down Seattle. Chris Carson they shut down Derrick Henry. They shut down C. M. C. had a number fifteen finish so I would limit it. Yeah I would play Ronald Jones over over Brian Hill. Okay we think Mike and I said we're on the other side. I'll just take the known opportunity. I don't like both of these guys to have any kind of high level production auction. But I'll all gamble on the touches at the wide receiver position. Julio's in your lineup in my goodness might be the best week. He has a thirty nine point. Two fantasy points better. That's what Tampa Bay is giving up on average to the wide receiver position. Making them dead last in the League too long since we've seen our last. Julio just boom yeah yeah it's not. It's not too long from now. Though I think Julia was GONNA have a monster game and I would start. All three of the Falcons wide receivers Calvin Alvin Ridley is a must start to me in this matchup but Russell Gauge I agree is a guy that you know look you. You know you had Mohamed Sue in your lineup. And now how. It looks like he might miss a couple of weeks. Russell Gauges still available. On on a lot of wavers he also replaced Mohammad Sununu in Atlanta Ironic And he can absolutely absolutely play in this game against Tampa Bay wins the last time who your Jones scored a touchdown we two or three three. Yeah come on polio. Yeah he was on fire to start the year yet. We dubbed did you Julio Touchdown Jones which was a really difficult thing to do. Yeah Yeah had the shop week and come out. Julio we'll see what Mike Evans Chris Godwin there in your lineup. No debate there. Oh Gee Howard no no no. No Austin Hooper like. He's officially out. Yes okay yes. He's out of the game. That's why like Russell Gates more exactly this week in he'll have an opportunity Jaden. Graham is the backup tight in the pass catching tight end. He was two for twenty three and look he was to fly as in in his first real chance. He caught two passive for twenty three yards. And the reason. We're mentioning Jane Graham just one so you know who he is but to. The buccaneers is the second best matchup for fantasy. Titans I'm not advising to start him. Just laying the land for people so so in when Sunday rolls around and Jane Graham touched catches a touchdown an half the country goes who you know who it was and also so that you don't just go. He's he's a thing now gray for the following week if he happens to have a good week again. DFS You want to roll out. Jane Grim. That doesn't bother me. Why I've been enough deep dynasty leagues where there are needs at tight end? Yeah Brooke Bought Start Brooks had two pickup dwelling off of the waiver wire last week to play him and and certainly worked brooks was that in Dynasty Dynasty. Yeah so you played. Let me just get this straight. Yes and did you win. Yes so you played Driscoll Deli. Oh yeah well you are just a this is why you got engaged this week. She saw that and and she was impressed. Magic me that was. was that what you said when you got on one knee. Did you say I just later played just one with driscoll and she said you're the one for me. Actually I gotta give a really quick shout out that was in dynasty but that she is up against her in a league last week and she beat me by three points o driscoll. Yeah that's me. Yeah we told Y'all week all right match up was cleared. Yeah we knew it. All right dolphins take on the BROWNS AT FOREIGN SIX GAMES IN CLEVELAND. The browns are heavy heavy favorites. Eleven points to forty four and a half point over under Baker Baker is going to be Talked about later but I like him. We'll put it that way Ryan Fitzpatrick on the other side has been throwing the ball to one man. One man only devante Parker top thirty six wide receiver in seven straight weeks. You can play. 'em Back Home Landry I think you can play both players in this matchup yes. I think you always play Beckham with a slight dreariness to your spirit. Drivers Landry though has been very good. He's actually got a higher target. Share in recent weeks than Beckham does both very high Fifteen fifteen red zone targets for Jarvis Landry on the air that's tied for fifth most among wide receivers and has a very nice Pro Football focus matchup against the cornerback. Yeah I mean you you could make the argument if you had to start one of these guys that you should be starting Jarvis his clearly more in sync with Baker. This is a monster revenge game. Same for Jarvis as well owed Beckham is the more talented capable of just dominating a bad defense like this Whereas Jarvis is more of a possession guy a real you know break a tackle and it's he's leisurely John Brown type of you know difference exactly so right now we've got back them retire retire because his ceiling is higher? But I do think the floor is clearly safer for Landry and I would love to play both these players all right. What about Nick Chub and Kareem Hunt or you playing both players this week absolutely absolutely up definitive? I mean Nick Job is he's an auto start. Oh Miami's allowing one hundred and forty eight rushing yards per game that's the second most in the NFL. He's absolutely in Kareem Hunt. Is We'll be highlighted at the end of the show. Well Oh well. I'm excited to have him highlighted all right right In Google I. I'm not messing with either guy. This week no I agree actually GONNA play. It's he might I be You might be watching. I will say this when he does play. An I'VE BEEN MR in Giokoo lot of mentions a lot of a lot of tweets out my lover and joke like when they break down. You know word bubbles right. If all the words that Jason has said somehow jokers like top three even joke. It was a really big word but there's no way you play him this week even if he is active. You don't play him because it's very I mean you've you've heard kitchens talk about. We don't know what kind of football shape he's in. You know he he. You could come out and ended up getting ten fifteen twenty percent of the snaps you you've got to let him get back into the NFL game before you start them. Yeah so so. The most recent news is who goes through his first practice but he's unsure if he'll play yep giants two and eight bears foreign six games got a forty point. Five over over under bears are six point favorites at home against the giants. It will be very difficult for Daniel Jones and company to make To to be able to move the ball against Chicago in Chicago in this game these are one of those. You know defensive match-ups where as as much as I like what Daniel Jones has done periodically through the year. It's a challenge to try to wade through a very talented defense on the road We've seen what Mason Rudolph looks like on the road. It's just difficult so I don't have high expectations for Danny Jones. We as a group have him as the quarterback nineteen on the week just not one of those streaming Daniel Jones weeks not with no with any confidence. No no certainly not against the bears and I I hate to say this. I think this could be a good game for Mitchell. trubisky is he. IS HE GONNA start. Yeah he looked I mean he was a full participant and Wednesday practice in the hip while i. I don't believe it's made up. This is not an injury that should should be sidelining a starting quarterback unless they're not worthy of being a starting quarterback but if you look back at the history of you know the the current Nagy trubisky era home games against bottom pass defenses. That's where he's thrived. That's where his giant giant six touchdown game comes. And so this matchup is one where you're afraid of him. But I don't think you necessarily need to be. Because the giants are very poor are against quarterbacks wide receivers the passing game is not good. And he's at home so this is i. Think one of those games where it's like a real prove it you know. They gave up three hundred twenty one yards a game on the road. That's another John it has most in the NFL. So they're just sitting there for. You is one of those those guys when you're in a multi quarter you know you're in a super flex league and he's your third quarterback. This is a week where you go. I might be able to put him in over over some of the other options. Montgomery did play with the her ankle last week. It was a reduction of snaps in that game. He played a tough defense. Do Do you rolling back out here in this one I imagine you do. Yep and then Torri Cohen. Is He playable as well. Is He in the top twenty four for you he got. He got the slight bump this past week because of the David Montgomery injury. His targets went up by two from the previous week the rushing carries did go up by six. I mean you saw a somewhat uptake of usage for Tree Cohen. He- did score again. I think this was his best. Ask Fantasy Day of the of the whole year but if David Montgomery if you're projecting him back to his let's see eighty percent of Israel then no. I'm amount on three cone. I think Montgomery gets into the end zone this week. It seems like a good situation. A good setup for that saquon Barkley over under one yard over okay. Well he's got the over. I will take the single by copiers. Do you believe in adding Wayne Garmendia roster. Even if you don't have sake one yeah just on the basis that may Barclays not if you spot and you're looking for a real high upside stash and all the other handcuffs were gone. Sure Yeah I'm okay I just I schedule at the end of the year we've talked about this for the giants is pretty great. Yeah don't understand why people aren't more in on Wayne Gomez de must add situ I mean he okay. So here's here's my rationale. His one game. He got one game without Saquon. He's number six running back on the week. I just think that the the office of line offense as a whole is not the one that I want to invest in whereas you look at Pollard or you look at them Madison and and not only that but those players are more talented Goldman's never really but you might not get that choice. I'm just it's just whether or not you put on the back of your bitch. Yeah I mean that's a matter of WHO. Who else are you dropping and have the luxury I not saying wing? Gaughman shouldn't be rostered. I just assumed that there are better more necessary. Options for instance. Would I rather have Wayne Goldman or have start setting up my playoff defense. Well I would rather have the defense you know I'd rather have. The Baltimore is more Ravens on my roster. Even if they're my second defense than Goldman well yeah for me. The the reason Gaughman is more attractive than others is. Because you don't it's not you're not just hoping for an injury blindly saquon Barkley is dealing with or coming up coming off of and dealing with an injury existing bright right so then you're not just saying I hope it's like Tony Pollard. I'm adding Goldman a thousand times more than adding Tony Polar. Because I'm not just hoping that you know Zeke twist an ankle you can you hope for that. We're preparing for that. I'm saying Oh he already tweaked his ankle. That's kind of my my thought process and Barclay Unlikely but just living in the world of hypotheticals improbabilities. It's me Dave doesn't seem like the type of guy who's GonNa Shut Barkley down at the end of the season because it's the smart thing to do but the giants are out and if you get down to those last two weeks of the season and Barclays banged up. It's in the realm of possibilities that they just I shut him down and Zeke not getting shut down. I think the reason that I might be a little bit on the other side of the fence for you guys is because like Saquon to me. He is appears a trade for candidate. Trade deadline is still open. He is a I mean. He's an answer to the beginning question who's going to help people win championships W. Chips Saquon is GonNa have a great rest of season and obviously based on your. Gosh you do not know. I have confidence in his health. The same way. Don't Amari Cooper right now. Oh in some of those players that I wouldn't be acquiring risk at my running back position when we haven't seen any of the saquon upside at all in quite some time. So yeah we do we. We do see things differently on that front. But we can move on Allen Robinson who you like very much I do. I mean look if I actually speak kindly towards trubisky escape for the first time ever. Then that's going to coincide with his one in a plus matchup at home and we'll talk about them later. Do we make anything of Anthony. Miller's colors eleven targets this past week or was that just a product of jalen Ramsey owner. Alan Robinson it's never benefited fantasy owners to make much of Anthony Miller or Taylor Gabriel's targets on any given week because there because the following week you are left wanting it's certainly possible. That Miller has a nice week but I would say is just as possible. That Gabriel leads the team in receiving yards and touchdowns and everything this week. So I don't know you WanNa ride the Mitchell express not really all right off a cliff. Golden Tate dairy slayton Sterling Shepard still in concussion protocol. I prefer not to play them. This week tough match-up on the road the bear The bears defense giving up twenty one point two fantasy points per game two opposing wideouts. That's not allowed to go around. No Evan Ingram. We expect them to play. I don't know I expect them to be out yeah. He didn't participate practice Wednesday or Thursday some to be reported to saying that would be the surprise of the week. If he were to play Panthers Saints Panthers at five and Five Saints at Eight and two games in New Orleans and the saints are nine and a half point favorites. It's a forty seven point over under Kyle Allen you know I was looking at touchdown to interception ratio over the last handful of weeks and Kyle Allen is the basement is throwing six touchdowns nine interceptions. It has not been smooth sailing. They're back at five and five. They're on the road against the saints. Ain't a very good defense who you should be playing in fantasy this week. You should be playing advancing. The one thing I'll say is that Kyle Allen's wins. Lack of production has not translated to a lack of production for his number one wide receiver. Dj More has been exceptionally. He's actually the target leader over the last three weeks. He's on pace for one hundred fifty targets and this is all of his production has come without scoring so you have a very safe baseline with some upside of DJ more finds his way into the end zone clearly. Better play than than Curtis Samuel Charters. Samuels you he has to have a touchtone. If Carter saying well doesn't score then you're unhappy. Yeah that's fair that being said Curtis Samuel seems to get the targets inside the five yard line from From what I've seen Marshon lattimore is still l.. Not Practicing for the saints so that is good news for DJ Chur Fair. Yeah it's GONNA be I think it's going to be a woman in this one. I really do Christian McCaffrey. Those Oh is shown that win warped. He's still the number one fantasy wide receiver on the week. He was thrown back. Yeah he was the guy running. The I believe the running back of the week last week and their team mm-hmm scored three points got blown out. That's how is that possible. Chris mccandless eleven catches ripped proof. It actually is a perfect match for what Saquon did last year right and he was a top three guy and beat up every week but seven eight nine ten eleven reception. SARONIC I was. I was remembering back to early early offseason when we were debating. The top guys and whether Christian was there and looking at the splits last year when cam was out how much better Christian McCaffrey was an and the argument against Christian McCaffrey. Because you know cams back now cam's been gone is like Oh. Yeah this is just. It's the Christian. McCaffrey show alright. All Right Alvin Kamara. He's my number one running back on the week just the panthers defense not good against the run. He's got back contract a little bit last week. We talked about Tampa right slowing down running backs the Chimera got some work done against them last week. Yeah compared it and Latavius as Murray in an actual positive game script got back on the field where in the where they got boat race by Atlanta and Chimeras I return Latavius. Mary barely barely saw the field back up to double digit carries very very plus matchup for running backs against Carolina. I think if you are desperate that you conflicts Latavius Carolina's giving up the most fantasy points to the running back position over the last month. I'm going to be the Brian Hill shutdown down. Yeah I I think you you know you have to be a little bit desperate for Murray and obviously Camaros is going to feast. Would you rather Camaro McCaffrey in this matchup. 'cause I'm I'm on McCaffrey. It is on camera. I mean these are the you're gonNA start both but I'm just curious. Pick one McCaffrey. Michael Thomas Holy Moly. How good is this Guy Mike on you missed? Monday's show as he was somebody. That probably should have gotten an apology. On an apology policy episode just from the fantasy community doubting his upper echelon status. He was drafted to be not quite in the range of Beckham Beckham was drafted ahead of Thomas Imus everywhere here. He is on pace for one hundred and fifty reception. Target no receptions rest- one hundred eighty one targets gets hundred One Thousand Eight hundred twenty four yard pace eight touchdown pace his consistency. If you look at this you know. The next. The next handful of players Evans Godwin Godwin Cooper chart that those are the next four on the list of wide receivers. Michael Thomas has never finished outside the top twenty four. In fact in the last six games played he's been top seven receiver in five of them. He's on believable. Because you have crazy safe floor and monster upside. He is the dominant wide receiving corps. He is the wide receiving corps right for drew brees. It's everything you ever want. Although I will say this he has also on pace for negative fourteen rushing yards. does have a weakness by the way he will that will be the NFL all time record if he gets one hundred fifty. The record is one forty three by Marvin Harrison. So so he's on break it. We've still got several games laughed. He probably wants to break it though. I'm sure he does but does he break it. I think he does well considering he had to do. Most of this work with Teddy Bridgewater order and in the three games that drew brees has actually been back. He's averaging nearly eleven receptions and one hundred twenty six yards. Yeah it's gone up. Yeah yeah the three games. I want to know the three game. Pays one hundred and seventy one receptions. That's nice to know. I think he breaks it. Yes but still only one hundred and eighty seven targets. He's just catching. Every we know single target that's ninety one percent catch rate over the last three games drew. brees something nice about a player that gets paid massive amounts of money and then comes out and breaks records. Yes just a neat thing to see. He's so dedicated to his craft. And so good and there are certain players that are just you play the saints. You Tell Yourself to stop Michael Thomas and you you cannot do it. It is not possible to do so Greg Olsen. Do you play them in this game. Jared Cook which which guy do you like more nine I like Greg Olsen more than jared cook just just based on the matchup and the needs Greg Olsen spent a little bit more involved and the panthers are really good against tight end so far only given up six point nine vantage points per game on the season. I mean. Cook's been pretty good. Oh yeah he I mean he was my start of the week last week. I'm not anti-cook on the state. His last four games teams tied in five and six tight end. Eleven tight intent. I mean he's been absolutely playable. I and I think you could start him. But if you're comparing him to Greg Olsen listen I would prefer Greg Olsen in this match there are tied in four and five respectively. Which means you're starting both of these guys? All right. The raiders at six and four take on the jets at three and seven the raiders at three point favorites on the road. It's a forty six and a half point over under either. The raiders are individual battle here. and Are you laughing. What eleven? Oh the add our editor in chief kyle the Babur the Borgen. He left very nice note. Oh Oh I see it for this matchup. He has dubbed this the black hole versus the be whole. Oh my goodness airy well Oh you know he does from time to time give us movie. Titles for these Games and I for one love that one. I'm GonNa go watch this movie. I mean this is an exciting. I mean the black hog is the behind watching movies. He's available in regular stores J watching this movie based upon All be vision the three thirty. AM watching forty. Yeah based upon my belief that this could be a really fun game. The Oakland Raiders as title it should be a stinker. That's that's very fair. Yeah I'll be here. All the raiders are an underrated offense. I mean they've they've been a pretty darn good offense this year. I felt like saying thank you to that when you said it as though I am Derek Carr as though that's Oh you are you've been the Derek Carr. The respects reactor apologised. Yeah Paul here. We go refers what you're looking for. Oh well now see. I didn't I didn't want to go that far. But apologist is the correct term. He's been a top twelve quarterback three the last four weeks if the raiders win this game which what's the favorite to do. We will have the seven and four raiders facing any seven and four chiefs next week for the division lead or Gruden which is a It is a testament to Gruden. It's a testament to car. They had to pivot away from Antonio Brown moments before the season started. Here's Hunter Renfro making his mark. In recent weeks Darin Waller Tyrel Williams. You know how the bears are bad. And they need a quarterback and they're gonNA have a poor record and a nice pick that goes to the raiders. Here's Oh that that's the radio from the MAC trae at that. Is the bears. First round. Pick goes to this possible seven and fourteen. Yeah well in the NFL. Their Trades Mimic sometimes. What you see in dynasty in keeper leagues and Fantasy where you think someone smoked someone and you got it wrong now Mike a few years back? What was the Aaron Jones trae homemade with alborn? The right when Aaron Jones broke out because two guys in front of him God hurt. Yeah and so. I- traded Aaron Jones. Away for Rab Tree crabtree. No one in Willia- it was at that time and it's so weird even think about it now. 'cause you forget forget where you were at. At that time. It was laugh like he was the thousand yard received. I would've rather had crabtree than Aaron Jones seemed at that time. And then you've got one and now it's like Oh crabtree just fell off the face of the earth. The one turned into. I believe Roy Freeman. So it's like yeah that's sick here. Yes Sir Sir just another little addition to the diatribe about Vito's you don't know how things are going to end up. None of us do and that trade was made by two parties that you wanted to make the trade and we nearly ridiculed alborn out of the studio. You had some issues with depression for months months after that and And then you won the TRAE. Yep So and then there's another fun fact. I'm looking at the the stream finder. The Oh Ooh I just laughing because Brooks added a little note to our dock and he said it says this I'm Rita Verbatim. Be Whole Equals Adam gays for new listeners. The only Brooks wants to make sure the Bohol is as clear as possible. Adam gays head coach for the jets. If you don't know who that is is a but what hold so now. You're now you're in on the joke. Well because that is just that's what it seems and with the Quincy Linzie noon while little diatribe. It just seems like you know butthole confirmed How speaking to how back to fantasy how fantasy? DST's S. T.. Have done against the Oakland Raiders. Yeah I know I was shocked. They add the. The raiders have only allowed one the top twelve performance one top thirteen before how many teams and that was to against the chiefs. How many teams in the? NFL Are there were. They have only had one top twelve performance or or fewer. I'm there aren't any. I think there's only one. There is only the Oakland raiders. I had the jets as has my defense and when I looked into it I was like wow. You don't really WanNa play against the raiders. It's not the never throws interceptions and they don't take sack. It's not that they that they smoke. You don't WanNa play against the high powered offense but you also don't WanNa play against teams that just don't give up anything. They are the way they've won on. This year has very much been the tortoise hair example. They have tortoise you would say Walrus. Do they have their fair. The WALRUS and the hair the famous children's story the Walrus and the hair and the Walrus goes released. Low Stop for a dip and then they end up winning the race the Walrus and the carpenter. Now I'm now I'm really lost from Allison Wonderland. No okay. Isn't the carpenter. But Derek Carr I mean I think he was eighty five percent completion last last week. Something like that. Josh Jacobs Top five and touches over the last since week. Four top ninety two point three rushing yards per game tyrel Williams lined up for success against this jet Stevens giving up thirty four fantasy points a game too wide receivers love tyrel this week. Yeah I think I think you can flex onto Renfro as well. Darren Waller you probably gonNA GonNa play him but the jets actually don't have a ton of points to the tight end and while there's been a little slow the Walrus but that's how you know tried and true you go a little slow and then you beat the hair in the end right That's how the Walrus run the race. Yeah on the other on the other side Ryan Griffin You know he's he's been on the field he's been running a ton of routes and he's had so many good finishes you don't know this Jay but in our start to the week section coming up. Shortly I had not only written in Ryan Griffen often but I had written in. You know five or six like bullet points as to why I liken this week sweet and then I pivoted away but it seems that he is So I I think he can definitely play him in this matchup. Oakland has been horrendous against titans. I do think the game hits the over. I like more than forty seven and a half points on this one. One hundred hundred percent and Let's put it this way. All of us have a start of the week on the jet. Sign despite the raiders playing. Well Sam Darnold is put together a few good starts. Love Have Belle. He's going to be in your lineup. So we think we think Sam Darnold can be a spot start if you need it and then Jamison crowder just been a martyr his target share. He's automatic attic man he. He's not top ten super sexy but he's he's great for your fancy not everybody can be top ten super sexy my I know. Look as one in the top ten. I feel bad for you. I mean it's it's pronounced crowd. Oh bring it to me it has been to all right. Let's get into those starts starts of the week all right. Let's kick it off with the quarterback position Mike. Why don't don't you take it? Sam Darnold for me from streamer to start or back to back you be seven performances for Sam Darnold. He had four touchdowns last week in Oakland. They're giving up the most twenty plus yard pass plays in the league. which is I mean? It's very interesting considering how well they've done against opposing. DST's but look Sam darnold. I think they're finally getting things. Figured out. With with focusing on Jamison crowder and Levy mbelle else should be able to get it done this week as well in the in the passing game. So I like Sam Darnold. There've been a handful of weapons that have kind of you know darnold has US Ryan Griffin is one of them a crowder you meant active areas Thomas and Robbie interesting is always a threat for the one big. Play the one big score all right. My My quarterback started the week is Baker Mayfield. This week against Miami. He just put up his top ten performance in five weeks yes baker and he did it against the Pittsburgh defense. He's now home against Miami. Miami Miami just got shredded by Josh Allen for a number one fantasy finish Baker has finished fourteenth. Thirteen nine ninth in the last three leaks and that's against Denver Buffalo and Pittsburgh where that's trending. It's gone up well kind of all right. My Star of the week is going to be Matt Ryan. It has been five live weeks since we have seen him. Inside the top fifteen at quarterback he got injured. He was out a couple of games that came back. He's been in some of the weeks that he was out that we. Yeah that's what I said. He was injured. He missed a game. I'm saying it's been a while. Because when he came back he's been the quarterback fifteen two weeks in a row. This is funny to be like last week week. The Dude didn't even show up on the fantasy rankings. Yeah he was owned by week but he didn't do anything fair. My point is you might be forgetting that. Before that six weeks ago he was coming off of back to back top two games. And now you're playing the Tampa Bay buccaneers at home home in a dome where it's been since you know since week three. There's only been one game where Tampa Bay hasn't given up a top twelve quarterback performance. So are you willing to because Goes Matt Ryan is is widely started. Are you willing to go on the record with like a top five guarantee yeah. He's absolutely top five quarterback this week a waterbed against yourself really. Yeah I'll I'll always I ever waterbed. Well I say that because I'm making the same sort of pronouncement with my running back star of the week so I'll pick it up. It's left Bell Against Oakland. He has yet to have this love bell this first round. Pick his yet to have a single finish inside the top eight all year long and I am calling. So are you willing to make a waterbed for top against yourself for top top five. I did fine. You get it in the in the prince. You're calling me brought up. John hit the button. top-five waterbed absolutely Oakland is stupid through Oakland vulnerable against the run they'd given up to top five performances in the last five weeks. Some you know. I've got a shot to win this one in there the bottom in the bottom half and told the points given up the running back the last three weeks seventeen carries eighteen carries eighteen carries. I think he's scored as a couple of times in this game. I he's like I feel like I get a couple of water myself. No matter what 'cause if I win I want to water someone money. You know if I lose I deserve to get water. You could just do good. Ah Celebration watering then Pepsi. Yes Oh yeah just dump it over my head yeah. I'm Becky Lear Instagram Post. They all Whoa don't you don't WanNA spoil the post its Cari. I know it's coming standing very soon. Check it out stay tuned. Look Ladies and gentlemen. I've seen him in a in a dark room Just in the corner with the thinking cap on its emotionless because of the instagram post. It'd be so incredible. The pressure upon on this man. It's coming it's sure this all right Mike you're running back started the week my running back star of the week. It's Kareem Hunt. Hunts the Cleveland Browns have found their third passing option. It is Kareem Hunt. He's averaged eight and a half targets since coming back into the league. That's a twenty four percent target share. He gets the take on Miami that juicy matchup eight against fantasy running backs yes nick Chavez on an automatic but I think cream hunt is a safe low in rb to start this week. All Right Jason. Who's your running back? My running back. We talked about it at at the top of the show. It's Philip Lindsey. I believe that he is a phenomenal running back in real life. Buffalo is a team that can be beaten on the ground and now the ground past you have to. Yeah you have to. Because it's very difficult unless you're devante. Parker who has to throw on the elites can beat them on Buffalo. And you know what happened for the broncos coming out and saying before the game you know reporters saying they expect it to be the villains show sixteen carries two eight Roy's Freeman. You know that's the the first time that he had over sixty percent of the snap. He's been in the forties and he was a sixty four percent of snaps. Oh Him in. The League dog role against Buffalo is going to be fancy success. All right. Mike you want to kick off the wide receivers. I will my wide receiver started week. It's Tiro Tiro Williams. This is just a situation of great matchup His quarterback Derek Carr is playing pretty. Well pretty well and he gets. The New York. Giants are giving up the second most points to the fantasy wide receiver position as simple as that. Okay I'm GonNa Calvin Ridley with a wink at Russell Russell gauge so both of those guys startle you. Know when you're when you're in a situation and you face Tampa Bay you smile. You Smile Mile. The last three the last three weeks receivers were first second and eleven. Total fantasy points on week eleven They're they're just the best team to stream wide receivers against I'm playing Russell Gauge in our league record right now. I don't know what's going on with Robert Woods and I don't know if I care with them facing Baltimore on Monday night. I don't know if I have the luxury of waiting and seeing so russell gauge is going to climb into. It's GonNa Climb into my lineup. I like it. I wish he was on waivers because then he would climb into my lineup I am going to be starting Allen Robinson. He has had a good season. You know there's been a lot of disappointing aims recently. But he's still oh on pace for one hundred and thirty eight targets over ninety receptions and the matchup against the giants is great. They are the best team stopping wide. Receiver And and the trubisky problem. That is clearly the problem for Alan Robinson. I brought this up in the matchup. The splits for trubisky risky when he plays a top ten passing defense he averages ten point four fantasy points per game when he faces a bottom ten passing defense he averaged just twenty six point five fancy points per game so an Allen Robinson he averages to over two targets Moore a game at home over three more fantasy points a game and home and pro. Football Focus has him with the number one cornerback wide receiver matchup discrepancy against the Andre Baker. I like Allen Robinson to have get right game. This week I am. I grew up by China started. The week is Vince. Did you already go retiro. Yes No. I'm sorry Martin. I'm sorry thanks for listening. Yeah I've skipped right ahead my back my dad and started the week. It's Vance McDonald. The he is a product of Necessity Sadi this week against the Cincinnati Bengals who looked waller had to find game Mark Andrews has absolutely dominated them. Juju is hurt deontay. deontay is hurt and fells generally speaking what happens when you three C three sevens in a row you win. That's called the Jackpot Buddy now. He's had three games seven targets in a row. I don't WanNa read into that but I'm going to do it anyways. Cheese let's let's go. Let's go vance with Donald caches this weekend. Because who else are they going to throw it to. There's not a lot of amish in and on top of that honestly the last two weeks ninety seven percent of the snaps ninety six percent of the snaps. He's now the the past two weeks he has been a full full-time player for the steelers. I'm going Dallas. Godart tight end for the Philadelphia Eagles against Seattle back to back. He's a top twelve tight end. Three of the last four starts arts. I found this Little Red Zone report stat gym yesterday. Where'd you find it on our website? FANCY FOOTBALLERS DOT COM now. He's a premium for clan Report ooh Nice but reds targets. I wanted to look at IRT versus Goddard Right. Both tight ends well. Arts is winning nine red zone target to six over got her but then I dug in a little bit. I looked at those ten zone targets. You get really down. That's that's a little closer well Dallas gutters got four of those targets Erz. Only one. They looked at her. You saw last week in the New England game the look to him inside the ten zone. He's averaging five point six targets a game. I will suck those up as a tight end starved person. I need those targets. Seattle's giving up the eighth most fantasy points to the tight end position. Also let's just throw this out there because you know in the off season season I was Mr Dell's gutter. He's a really good player. Yes Dow's gutter was drafted to be a star. I didn't this wasn't just oh he's a backup up. Everyone's so upset when he went to the eagles. Because it's like what I wanted to have Dallas Gutter as this great fantasy object backup you you starting to see him more involved and he can and he can dominate might start of the week's going to be the Ryan Griffin Waiver. Wire wonder everybody's in on this week. I think there are reasons for that. He's been a top twelve guy three three of his last six weeks so I mean look that's half the time good halftime. That's basically what you get with the tight end position but to those three. He was the number one tied in and he's got big game potential now. He plays against Oakland Raiders. Who are bottom five against tight end? They often are beating their. It's just a nice combination. Where eighty nine both see this game hitting over and Ryan Griffin should be involved if there is a lot of points scored the Walrus and the carpenter by Lewis Carroll? It is a narrative story poem it is also called a nonsense poem meaning that impossible things happening in it there on the Pravo Mike. Thank you and it's also people because this nonsense podcast also read a book to us. It's just the uncultured swine them surround. Oh Mike the Carpenter and the Gardiner. Oh did you find another one trickled down the road Help you ready for that Gardner Jason. Moore's ironclad locked and loaded one hundred percent guaranteed boom boom kicker of the week. The butger what is on by. And you don't know what to do. Pick up and play the Falcons Young Hoke who what we're doing in league one. We are in excellent recovery. I don't think you'll actually get the face because on the youtube. There was a graphic but for the first five seconds of the intro Jason's face was one of pure pain well I was in a band scrambling through his papers. Something I was in terms of. Here's somewhere of searching for the Gardner and when I heard the drop another. I'm supposed to do some somewhere else on this computer. That's how you you you did it. Well I was playing Pong by the way. What's our current record in league? Want people want to know I will seven and three. I believe we are seven three. I think we are in second place We're doing well we project to be in the playoffs. And we'RE GONNA take it down and then sleeper we are are now nine. And we are like Emma Hatami fellas the seven three does not make sense You're right with that three. We are ages and then in sleeper. Were nine nine into right now. Yeah the leaper were locked into the play offs. We will be playing for that charity money. Oh yeah yeah sweet sweet charity money and we got some people people playing very very hard in that sleep. Yes so it's GonNa be fun all right we want to We're GONNA close this thing out by thanking Studio Sponsor Pristine auction a Very very special very very excellent auction yesterday Josh Style. Yes a little Josh Allen. 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Full Show (Drew Brees, Browns, LeBron James, Chiefs, Cowboys)

First Things First

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Full Show (Drew Brees, Browns, LeBron James, Chiefs, Cowboys)

"Good morning welcome first things first. I'm John Wolf. That's Nick Right Danny. Canals with thoughts this morning. Good Morning Brandon. Cold Rainy Day out the TURTLENECK. Just like snugly you know you dislike cozy up up with it just checks. Cash eight is Iranian miserable. Day in New York. So hurry call out. Let's sake and watch US for three hours. Big Show for you on this Tuesday morning and we have to start with history made on Monday night. Football drew brees and the saints hosting the Colts. And what a game for breach third quarter. He finds his tight end. Josh she'll for a touchdown noxious Danny touchdown the record-breaking one which moves him vast asked Peyton manning for most passing touchdowns all time at five hundred forty. He got love from his teammates from his family from the fans they are New Orleans. brees finished the night in incredible twenty nine of thirty that is ninety six point. Seven completion percentage best mark ever in a single game and win to top it all off for the saints. Here's drew brees after the game. Listen it was. It was special everything about the night you know. I don't know how they pick. I don't know how they pick on Monday night. Football playing the colts right the team that we we won the Super Bowl against ten years ago so the whole whole Super Bowl forty four team is back for the ten th anniversary and obviously national television big big game and now that record in the balance as well and just kind of makes you shake your head you know. Are you kidding me on not sure how we got here. It just kind of makes your whole life and career flash before your eyes colts were like anything we can do to help you know problems. Did you sell his. Exposed neck was just uncomfortable teaser. He would've looked turtlenecks blazer. That's right all right nick. Let's let's talk about drew brees and then we'll get to wear the saints are right now. Where does breeze rank right now? All time time among quarterbacks. Well it's such an interesting question because we talked about this a little over a year ago when brees passed. I think it was Peyton manning maybe two years ago actually on the passing yards list and you can statistically. Here's the profile of one of the two or three greatest quarterbacks ever. He's he's got more touchdowns than anybody. Now more yards than anybody more completions than anybody. So the three things quarterbacks can do complete passes complete passes for yards and incomplete. BLEEP passes for touchdowns. He's done more of that than any quarterback ever he and Brady might catch him in touchdowns it'll depend on who plays longer. But he he brady Payton Manning and Farve are basically the top of the mountain. Statistically across almost all statistical categories but breeze isn't in that class quite and even with another super bowl. I don't think he'd be in that class. Because there's one thing that the other the modern day all time greats have which is a period of time where we all thought. Oh that's the best quarterback in football and breeze despite his brilliant millions and his story is unbelievable. This is a guy who won comeback player of the year. Not Coming back from injury coming back. From being bad he got benched in two thousand thousands three for Doug Flutie and in Oh four he runs the NFL Comeback Player of the year award. He then in Oh six has to go to a new team because in the first four or five years of his career he only had one one outstanding season and starting six to now. That's when he's gone on this unbelievable run. But if you're talking about modern era quarterbacks there's obviously brady right here here but then that next. Hear Me Peyton Manning Joe Montana John Elway not only do all those guys have multiple super bowls but all those guys is at one period of of their career. Were the clear cup. Best quarterback in the League that next year I think is where breezes long with Aaron Rodgers. There's Brett Farve Dan Marino but even those guys all have one thing breeze doesn't a league. MVP multiple first team all pros. So it's really difficult focal to slot him. It's almost to cross sports a Ricky Henderson situation where you're talking about or even maybe Hank Aaron's a better example. I don't think anyone talks throughout Hank as the greatest baseball player ever. But you look at the numbers and you're like why is he not in the discussion because he was probably never the best player playing at that time. So I'm not trying to take anything anything away from drew but that's to me. He's on that third tier of modern greats. which is nothing against him? It's a big Ben. It's Eto are Troy Aikman. It's it's ahead of some other guys but it's not with peyton manning. It's not what Joe Montana and certainly not. Tom Brady top five all time. But modern era quarterback because as we are living in a new age even think if you went back and pinpointed it to two thousand four two thousand five when you saw the pass interference rule change which really was the Peyton Manning. Roll like that. Nfl Oh competition committee. Which Bill Polian was part of inferior? Had say hey he had four interceptions. AFC Championship game. They changed the rule all the sudden. That's when you really saw an explosion Asia passing stats and the NFL. So you really almost have to look at everybody a little bit differently because these numbers as insane as they are these. They're all GonNa be broken down the road. Because more Patrick Mahomes like inge longevity does become a come into play here but I also feel like you love Lebron. The one thing thing Lebron doesn't have the catch. MJ Is the rings. So I WANNA make sure we don't do that with drew brees because he only has one ring like we're going to hold that against him and I think that's an easy Thing to fall victim to is that all of a sudden you say well he's never been that and the fact that while he was playing peyton manning was ringing up five. MVP's well neither one of US would make the case for him overpaid manning but he's got to be right there with the will but let me ask you that because let's just say the Saints Win the Super Bowl. This bathrooms. Just give it to him. He's obviously do not breed right no. He's still obviously not peyton manning. Even though they'd have the same number of super bowls he beat Payton in a super bowl and he has all the records. I still think I hi test wise. When those two guys were playing they played in the same era? Payton was better right. Yes Joe Montana to my over John Elway who went to five one two do and his numbers guy who's example. The numbers aren't there. There's four modern era guys already but see. I don't have always ahead of drew brees because I look at the way as some of these guys played. That's why I haven't rational reverence for Dan Marino. Sure because I I grew up down there I was friendly with them. Got To get got to know him so I might be a little bit too loyal to Dan Marino and if you look at the lack of weapons that he had never run game and they really relied heavily on the past like if John Elway didn't get Terrell Davis at the end of his career. He doesn't get those super bowl. We we might not talk about him the if you have Marino up there but that would mean breeze because top five the thing about top. Fives is there's only five people so brad him at five for IRV. Yes ahead of Aaron Rodgers ahead of obviously Steve Young and Troy Aikman all is okay. So you've got him ahead of Elway. See you go Brady Manning Montana Montana manning either way Maria Radi Montana peyton manning Dan Marino drew brees. And I think for all these discussions were almost better off doing tears. You're right because not in the tier with Aaron Rodgers Brett Farve and Dan Marino. Because it's because then we end up arguing four versus seven verses six and Fitz about the eye test or if it's about Oh who's Mvp I about who's the best game. Doom should not matter. Who I we even keeping stance about it because if it statistically he's right right there was this the but so it's all of it right? So it's for these discussions it's partial winning its partial stats and its partial. I test drew brees. This is done enough winning to get in the conversation absolutely. He hasn't done so much winning. That ends the conversation like with Brady. But he's done enough to get in the door. If you don't have any winning then you have to the test and the staff to be so overwhelming like Marino you force your way in right with elway. He did so much winning that it kind of overcomes becomes the eye test for the stats. He went to five super bowls. So it's it's kind of a a what's the word combinations journal use of all of his stats are an aide triple. Plus the tests for me is very very good but he's just hurt by the fact that he came in right after four of who won three. MVP's he played during Rogers who's won multiple MVP's Br Break Brady. WHO's won three? MVP's peyton manning WHO's one five so even things like all pro teams. He's only been in the first team all pro quarterback once in his career. which is maybe? It's the ear is working against him if he'd come in the mid eighties. Would it be different. I don't know but that that to me is always going to hurt him on this all time rankings. I think to the record that impresses me most and this is a title he can have in his own right the most accurate thrower of the football ball of all time. And that's backed up statistically you know with the completion percentage he's going to go down with the highest career. Completion percentage the single season completion percentage and now the game completion percentage edge. That to me is a title. That's worthy of its own category. And he's got that Barna. I'm telling you nick agenda. I played seven years. NFL and watched a lot of practises. Where you're just playing seven on seven with no defense on the field? And you had quarterbacks. Starting quarterbacks who couldn't complete twenty nine out of thirty passes passes with no defense the fact that he did this a real live tackling taking place and guys running routes. It is absurd to be able to do this. That's on that stage. A team whose playoff life was on the line in Indy and who needed the win the saints needed the win and he knew he had this record hanging overhead. I think that if he doesn't get it Tom Brady could be the one getting the ceremony a week from now in that context one of the thing drew brees has his story is is one of the most unique in NFL NFL history. Farve stories very unique as well to be a second round. Pick to have your first team say at we like. Yeah but we're going to go with Philip rivers to have the Miami Dolphins Pass on you because because of an injury to be benched in your first late four Doug flutie briefly and then to go on this Ron. No one could have anticipated this coming. When he teamed up with the Orleans? Saints and Sean Payton in two thousand six year right now. It's moving on the Cleveland. Browns suffered another loss Sunday this time to Arizona among the many lowlights another tough outing for Baker. Mayfield a sideline blow up between Jarvis Landry and head coach Freddie Kitchens Kitchens and now this a recent report stating multiple Browns players including Jarvis and Odell yelled at the Arizona sideline to quote. Come get me after the game. Freddie Kitchens said heating care about his future as the browns head coach and yesterday to walk that back living. Let me clarify since I care about my job. All right only care though about getting being better today. That's what I was trying to illustrate Is I'm only focused on today. On getting this football team to play the best of their ability today and to increase those chances of getting to that point on Sunday the only thing I was trying to illustrate is the fact that I'm only concerned about what we're doing is a football team today. Nuts it of course I want to be back and that's a main main. Yeah what does it feel like. The wheels are coming off this team as they inch closer to ending the season. Do you think the Browns to clean house and build again around Baker. Yes obviously they should clean house in. That means I think Clean House means fire the head coach I the general manager. John Dorsey his job is going to be safe. But he's now wow on far more tenuous footing than anyone could be anticipated going into this year. Because one thing Dorsey the best thing on his resume with the browns was I picked Baker Mayfield any field. That looked amazing a year ago. It obviously right now looks far more questionable. Even if I still believe in Baker's ability to turn this around but for the browns around this has been the worst case scenario season Baker looks terrible more on that in a bit. The locker room does appear to officially be falling apart with the reports that Odell a month and a half ago was saying during the Games in October come get me to opponents. Jarvis now reportedly say according to Mike Silver echoing those statements against the Arizona Cardinals. They don't have any direction. I mean just a few weeks ago. The Best Player on their team thumped in opposing quarterback in the head with his helmet. That seems like it's a footnote head coach. Of course then wore the Pittsburgh started shirt like all of this has been a comedy of errors for Cleveland. The only silver silver lining Danny is because they've lost two of their last three because they are now defacto eliminated from the postseason. I believe they absolutely will move Yvonne from Freddie Kitchens which is better for their long term future than sneaking into the playoffs and keeping Freddie Kitchens because he seems way in over his head. And that's where the house cleaning has to start. I've been late to this party because I always try to give guys benefit of the doubt say. Hey It's first year maybe can learn on the fly you know. We've seen seen coaches survivor. Upstarts and be able to accomplish great things right. They come back from it this to answer your question. The wheels have come off their long. Gone the cars on fire. You're you know you're trying to put the fires out left and right He. That's the perfect way to describe it as somebody WHO's over in over their head and it shouldn't be that much of a surprise prized doesn't have much experience as coordinators being a position coach and all of a sudden they just here you go. Here's the keys and we should have listened to win some coaches that were on the staff said. Do you know what a lot of success the came last year wasn't really because of Freddie Kitchens. There was some of the other guys in that staff who are no longer there you mentioned the myles Garrett situation you know. He's he's in charge of that. Of course we've talked a lot about the discipline issues with penalties. Just stupid foolish penalties. Not that those fall in the head coach type of culture you creating at practice that carries over into games. You haven't been able to keep now. This might be a hard job to do but it is his his job to keep Odell Beckham. Happy to keep Jarvis Landry. Happy to keep your best players invested. He's lost them clearly. Records aside the exchange ames. They just showed right there with Jarvis Landry where he comes over there and view Bakero. It's it is bad and when you've lost the locker room and I think that's it's where Freddie Kitchens is now that to me. Is that the signed it. It's over you are done with because you don't regain that trust in those relationships just like that. It takes time and a lot of times. It's the damage is done. And I think that's where they are now for the browns and it's the question then becomes where do you go. You know. And and I do think a college coach like Lincoln Riley with. Here's the thing. Would you want this job. And he's got a really good job at Oklahoma and makes a lot of money. It's pretty close to what you you can make an NFL Baker Mayfield low loved college. He still has a college mentality when you see him talking about rivalries. He's and calling out teammates. Who are going to leave and Free Duke? Johnson was wanted to be traded like. That's a hard swallow early in your career. You understand that but you become a professional. That's part of the business business. I still think Baker would thrive with college type coach. That's why I do think Lincoln Riley would be a good option. Urban Meyer was in Ohio from Ohio. Like I think he'd be a good option. But that's the one thing that concerns me. What direction are you going to go after this and that would be you know the third head coach for Baker Mayfield? That's a tough ask. Do you think that our expectations were just a little too. Hi For this team. And that they bought into it they were young team. That may be heard or listened more than they should have listened to what everyone was saying about them. How high everyone perched them before? The season began There was just no way anyone was going to live up to those expectations. Who will I agree with? You said until the very end I mean. They absolutely could have lived up to expectations. You ten games. I mean. That's the expectations. Weren't they win. The super bowl the expectations weren't they'd be the best team in football. It was a team that won seven eight and one last year with a horrible kicking Situation and turnover that coach position in a rookie quarterback get a couple games better. I don't think they were unrealistic expectations. They just failed on all fronts. The head and you can't succeed in this league with a bad head coach and when the quarterback playing Baker is you could have any other combination. We can talk about Odell being the underachieving Jarvis being unhappy the myles Garrett suspension the defense not being as good as I thought it would be but ultimately you could have the eighty five bears defense and and the special teams and if you have a head coach and quarterback Combo Right. Now that's playing coaching away. Kitchens is and show bakers numbers bakers. Baker's been a train wreck. He is been by any estimation one of five worst. Everyday starters lead this year can't win that way just flatly. We cannot win that way so I now did. The expectations get to Baker. Possibly was he clearly was listening to the outside noise. There's no question about that but Baker was has been terrible this year. That has been a constant Freddie. Kitchens has shown no no ability. No there's no reason to believe he's prepared or qualified for this job and by the way his football resume up until fourteen months ago said he was not a prepared or qualified for this job. The only I wouldn't go Lincoln Riley to me that would be rewarding. Baker Baker would love that. I I I hate to say this because I feel like the old man yelling from the porch but Baker might need a little humbling and this season I think has been humbling and having a third head. Coach is not a good start for any quarterback but he was not his fault. I don't think Freddie's his fault they just hired the wrong guy bringing a Ron Rivera Rivera type. That's the or Mike McCarthy who was mentioned air because of the relationship with John Dorsey. Someone who has experienced in this. The reason I say Rivera is because then you're the quarterback and you're like oh the the head coach is not being picked based on me. He's a defensive minded coach. Pick the offensive coordinator are based on Baker. Pick the head coach based on the organization. I'm not saying Lincoln Riley wouldn't be successful right but for this team. I don't know if it's what they need. It's a mess for sure. It is an absolute mess. I think rare out somebody that brings some stability there but Baker's humbled he has to be has he learned. That's the thing I don't know because in the off season may be no commercial even the commercials but has he learned way to handle media to to throw him just two weeks ago. He's throwing the medical staff earned Neto calling out and talking about Adele's injury like those are things you don't air out with the media. He got into a feud with the media. Member there in Cleveland not that long ago to me he's been humbled somewhat but as he truly learn what it takes to be a professional. I still think he has a long way to go on to Lebron James and the Los Los Angeles Lakers sitting on the best record in the NBA at twenty four and three and as a fun reminder. This is Lebron seventeenth season which makes the fact that he's leading the NBA yea in assists for the first time in his career. That much more impressive. And oh by the way. He's played in every game so far. Here's Laurent on the theme of this. This season load management. If I'm healthy I play that's all your. That's the approach again to like late season. We've cliched and we can't get any better or any worse. It could benefit from that. But I mean why why would not play from unhealthy. That doesn't make any sense to me. Personally I mean I don't know how many games I got left for my career. I don't know how many kids that may show up to a game there to come see me playing if I sit out in were you know. That's my obligation obligation is deployed play from our team Mason. If I'm if I'm healthy and I'm applying coast since me out. I'm not healthy. Not a little dig it quiet there during the press conference. He think nick that Lebron should take a page out of his book and consider sitter load management with where he is in his career and how hard he's been going so far this season no book is its own book and needs to be. I mean you said it. The theme some of the season's been load mandarin because of one guy and it is. It's hurt the standing of the league. It's her television ratings. It's I think for the average fan. They think a a lot in the whole leagues engaging in this when they're not eighty S it's one guy who happens we the reigning finals. MVP Lebron approach is of course the correct one and has been his approach throughout his career aside from last year where he got his suffered a major injury. There's only been one season. We're Lebron missed major. Time his first year back in in Cleveland where he missed a two week stretch dealing with a knee. Injury now became a bit of a punchline because while he was dealing with it he went to see Ohio state win the national title but he missed eight. The aims in a row dealing with a knee injury other than that. Lebron plays seventy six games a year at a minimum every year. That's what he's done for the better part of seventeen eighteen years the team that invented load management the Spurs with Tim Duncan played seventy four and seventy seven games. In years. Seventeen gene and eighteen Dirk Nowitzki played seventy seven games in year. Twenty the initial load management was. You don't have to play all eighty two. It's foolish Polish to play. When we're on our third game in four nights and your long term veteran and you might have a bit of a lingering something take the night off? There is no extra cheese more and I gotTA play all eighty two but but the idea that we would go from where it was. You should play eighty plus where it became which is seventy five is a reasonable number or two missed eight of twenty eight. He's miss higher percentage than last year when he only played sixty games. It would be devastating for the sport if other people took took this approach. And Danny I appreciate what Lebron said at the end there where he said. I don't know what little kid came to see me play if you watch them play in. Atlanta wasn't a little kid. It was a grown man. Right behind the Lakers bench in a Lebron Jersey US Tinsley from Atlanta. They play there once a year. He probably bought those tickets four months ons ago and if Lebron that night even as a grownup he for for that fan that fan. Who's what makes all this possible? Lebron says am taken the night off that and that's the worst moment of the guys sports here instead of the best. He understands his responsibility to the league. In a way that the vast majority of our superstars superstars also do one happens not to this might be one of the favorite things I've ever heard. Come out of his mouth because I think it is. It is sending a message acids league wide and I do think this was more problematic a few years ago when it was kind of becoming a status symbol. I'm good enough. I can sit over here. Take the night off off. I can manage. I can take a rest and I can do that. You'd sit over there. You know. In your nice looking suit. It would be a status symbol kind of a cool family talking about was it was a really tough spot in the league. Because the two best teams in the West the Spurs. who were the first team to do it? And then the warriors when they add k. d. knew they were just going to coast through the regular other season so you had the two best teams in the premier conference both teams engaging in it which is where it really started to catch catch hold and then Adam. Silver sends sends a stern message to the League which everybody pretty much abide by except for Leonard but ultimately where we've come now is where Adam silver can do all he. He can try to do everything he can try to send letters. He could try to send warnings. He can try to send messages. It has to come from the players themselves that realize for the health of the game game. We need to go out there and we need to play when we're capable of playing and it can't become a thing it can't be a status symbol and that's where I appreciate the Lebron on as the face and the voice of the NBA sending a message to every player out there. That might be considering this if he can do it. Then I can't because that's really where the message has to come from it. It has to come from the players and if Lebron's out there voicing that message it's going to resonate throughout the Lebron is much more of a team ambassador a league ambassador then quiet all cool I really cares about is can. Can I be there for my team. Or what about winning the title for this team right now. Whatever it takes and Lebron cares about the integrity of the League and people coming to watch him and and all that it's a much bigger conversation? I agree with the Lebron Point. The quite thing we'll see I mean the the whole I mean you know. What would have helped the clippers? If they'd beaten the Bulls the other night and a three point loss when quite sad I was eighth game of Twenty Eight Games so I understand that the the the what we we've decided with Colli. which is the whole the reason? This is a conversation this year. That knows what he's doing is actually the self list thing and some other shows will discuss is Lebron. Lebron being selfish by playing is stat chasing. is He doing these things. As opposed to you. Show up to work when you're healthy to play to show up to work which she's been. The constant in all work is sports lies since work. I mean I mean since you under gatherers servers you can go to it. It's you get an off season. You have off days. There are times. Nobody seen you've got to be eighty two nobody's arguing Back in the NFL. Now the chiefs picked up their fourth straight win Sunday against. It's the Denver. broncos are pretty dominant win in a blinding snowstorm and while they had their struggles. The injuries that defense they are two wins away from the exact same name record that they posted last season. What asked if he likes the chiefs getting slept on rating? Mvp Pat Mahomes said quote. I think I do anything. People are are sleeping on Mahomes and the chiefs this year. I absolutely do especially considering coming into this season. They were the odds on favorite to win the Super Bowl. And and what's changed like I don't know like it's the same roster. They got the same pieces there. I get it in. Homes was hurt for a couple of weeks and he had an injury but as he continues to get healthier this. This team is a force to be reckoned with and you saw what he did in the weather. This past weekend against Denver didn't phase him one bit. He's got so much natural talent. They have weapons on on the offensive side of the ball. And I know the defenses still a concern but I don't think it's a significant reason why you should be uh-huh this team can't win the Super Bowl. Their defense statistically is better than Green Bay's and better than Seattle seahawks and we talk about them essential soup candidates. Why can't we talk about the chiefs that way and neither neither Green Bay North Seattle has the offense firepower county and city big difference last year? I feel like I said this a month ago. slasher twelve and four. Everyone loved them this year. They're going to be twelve and four. Everyone's out on of course slasher twelve and four was good enough for the one seed this year unless New England loses to Buffalo. They're going to be the three so there is I understand that significant difference but the deepens is playing far better right now than it did at any point last season they just added drill slugs. Who's got four force? Fumbles and five and a half sacks this year we'll see what impact he can and make in place for the injured Alex Okafor but dating back to week seven. The chiefs were at their low point. I would say after the back. toback Indian Houston Losses Indy. They they played terribly Houston. They gagged the game away. Here's what they've done. Since then. Denver National Television Watch their quarterback his kneecap dislocated and annihilate them play Green Bay on national television with the backup quarterback. That game is twenty four a piece in the fourth quarter. They beat Minnesota a very good Viking seem with a backup quarterback quarterback and then the titans game a game they dominate for fifty eight. And a half minutes and somehow invent a way to lose at the end then the defense plays great. They beat the chargers. There's the offense and even play great. They beat Oakland. They go to New England and beat them and they just annihilated the Denver broncos. They haven't had what I would consider a bad game of football since week. Five against Indy and they are finally for the first time all year healthy. Of course right right now the ravens have been the best team in in football. I think the saints are the most complete team in the NFC after those two teams there is no team. You can make to me the credible case. You should have more faith in in the cancer. Each year I I now joined by former all pro running back Brian in Westbrook. Good Morning Brian. Nice to see also On Sunday Bryan. The game. We've all been waiting for all season in NFC each showdown on Fox cowboys and Eagles from Philadelphia. Our guys have Fox bed. Have the boys favored by two and a half nick. You buying China Cowboys's road favourite. No I'm not and it's not because I'm super high on Philly Philly's pulled one out of the fire and back toback weeks against back to back bad teams I give Carson. Winston ingles credit for not folding in those situations. But it's not like they all of a sudden look like they've got right. I understand the cowboys just played their best and most complete game of the season. But this is a drastic overreaction to the cowboys for once all year looking at their best looking the way a lot of people thought they could throughout the season and I know there is going to be the narrative of well. Are they peaking at the right time. You cannot be apeaking if you were just at your lowest moment. The cowboys three weeks prior to their great game against the rams sound like they were on the cusp of putting it all together. They implant great defensive game and integrate offense of game and then no they played terribly against buffalo and then followed that up by playing even worse against the bears so north. I'm not buying. The cowboys rode favorites over a team with a pulse in the eagles. At the very least have that. And I'm not buying the cowboys as all of a sudden some now dark horse contender tender if they get into the tournament even though Brian Phillies had considerable struggles this year. Along with the Dallas Cowboys. I'm actually buying gene the cowboys as roles pavers. Here's a reason when Zeke plays which he will this week. The cowboys are five. And no against the Eagles Zeke has gone off against the Philadelphia Eagles. Eagles in the Eagles Defense has not looked very good as of late. Here's the thing. Though when they played each other week five or six never was the Dallas the Philadelphia Eagles had four turnover the Dallas cowboys converting for those three of those turnovers into touchdowns those are big stats and so if the eagles just say to me we can go out there and not turn the football over. We're in in the game that means they're Carson Wentz came come from behind these last. Two weeks has an opportunity of helpfully. Wendy's games I still think even as a underdog underdog. The Eagles have an opportunity to win this football game. But the big three for for the Dallas Cowboys. That's the most important part. How can you slow down the Big Three Cooper Dak as well as is Zeke? I got a little Christmas budget. Set aside for my daughters. I'll put it on this game on. The Eagles has dog daughters. Have the best Christmas. They've added a long time. I think everyone I think you hit a spot. Nail on the head I think people are buying into. Hey the cowboys have figured out. I think they might have but I need to see. Are you a bigger body of work than one game where they kind of capture all this magic and it was great. It was awesome but I needed to see this. Those three games that's regained skid. I need to see by way two of which were on the road in nasty conditions where it looked like oh this is a team from Dallas where it's typically warmer or they can have played nice controlled environment as opposed to having to go on the road and I get Zeke is playing in there five. No with Ezekiel Elliott. But how do we know which Jason Garrett is going to be calling plays as he can can't afford isn't going to feed them the rock enough to get away from it. Are they going to try to get cute at different times. I haven't seen enough consistency from this Dallas cowboys to stick to have enough confidence. Say you know what they can lay two and a half points go on the road and do it in Philly with a playoff type atmosphere. I can't buy into that just yet. Nick what's on the line for for this game the Cavaliers Abbas can clinch with a win the division. If they win this football game the Eagles if they win this game they don't clench there obviously dominating position if they win the game so I mean mean the winner of this game if the cowboys went one hundred percent they win the division. If the Eagles wanted I'd say it's Colston Ninety percent they win. The we talked so much on this show about trust. Who Do you trust more? It's hard to trust either of these things because of the inconsistencies in both teams have had all season but well. Who Do you trust more coming in the team that showed you? They can do it last week or the team I I don't trust either. The phillies at home phillies. I understand home field in the NFL. This year hasn't been as much as it has in years past particularly on the game wing side of things. I get that part of it but I also think we say Dallas finally put it all together. Okay in the game they put it all together. They botched the coin toss and the opening in kickoff. The they did put it all together. Eventually after they screwed up the two easiest parts per gallon I mean you bought the coin. Toss The New York and our river on parachute suit in to save you. Even though Dak screwed that up that was not their officials fault. And then you. Your new kicker kicks it out of bounds. I just there is not been at any level of consistency from Dallas this year except for the fact that in the first three weeks you're against horrible teams. They looked great and I do wonder if how great the passing attack. Look those first few weeks. Brian trick either Kellen Moore or the team is a hole into thinking. They were something that they weren't which is is not a run. Oriented Ezekiel Elliott Center team. Instead Zeke being one of DAX weapons which is the way they treated the next two months the football which I think led to a lot of their media. That's a concern. I have for the Philadelphia. Eagles they may have been confused about whether they were going to be a passing team. We're running team. But last week. They they understood exactly who they were going to be. They had D Z going as well as Tony Pollard. Over those guys had over one hundred rushing yards in the other concern is the Philadelphia Eagles Eagles defense. They got thirty seven points. Put up on them by the Miami dolphins seventeen points by the giants twenty seven points by a rookie quarterback haskins where everybody is taking advantage job. And so now I'm saying here comes Amari Cooper. Here comes back. Here comes Zeke. Here comes Tony Pollard. They're going to try to run the ball down their throat and this is what they're saying if you're kind of more we're going going to run the ball until they stop it when they stop it. Now we have the ability to pass over the top with Dax Finding Amari cooper who the DB's for the Philadelphia Eagles have not been able to stop receivers. They haven't been able to tackle very well. Michael Gallup going over top. Those are big time things for the Eagles and defensively. They have not been very good. I think we're giving obviously. There's GonNa be an overreaction to with the cowboys done. I think what the Eagles have done. I know they're against bad teams. But we're talking about career defining moments for Carson wentz coming back from seventeen three and I know it's the giants and no it's not very impressive. Career a game winning drive against the Redskins and I know it's the redskins but those types of moments can build up confidence in teammate in him in his own wants that can resonate and that they can carry over some momentum to into this game where maybe they start playing better at the time the kickoff as opposed host to waking up at halftime are we confident Kellen Moore has now decided. He's going to change the game plan to run the ball even though the eagles are terrible against the runaway confident Gilmore's GonNa go against what he did the whole first. What happened to season? Well I think the game plan against Eagles has been consistent. Run the football when you have Zeke. They've been poverty no. They run the football every single time. They played the Eagle Eagles including earlier this season. I don't see that changing you might change it against different teams but against the eagles. They run the football and Zeke's averaging around one hundred and sixty five yards from scrimmage in his five career games games against phillies. You mentioned they're undefeated in those games. I I I'm not trying to make the case. The Dallas can't win this game. I'm trying to make the case. They are the same team today. They were last. Is Tuesday last Tuesday. They were a flawed underachieving team. Because they all of a sudden put it all together for a week against a different flawed underachieving achieving team in the loss. The rams the rams this week this past week or where the cowboys all right now. A team that had been underachieving the rams was two games for Nelson's one played two really good Games. It's like oh are the rams back could the rams via dangerous no actually. They're not even going to make the postseason in next year. They're in real real trouble. DALLAS AFTER US remain down. They do it for one week. It's like Oh cowboys. Nobody wants to face them. In the first round of the playoffs everybody wants to face them in the first tier here point they interviewed Jared Goff before the game on Sunday and he said yeah look we had adversely but we figured it out came out the other end in the mouth and listen. The Eagles by by the way are in a similar boat. Which is why the cowboys can obviously win this game? But these teams are who they have shown us they are. There is not some mid season. Transfer coming there's not some employer coming off injury that's GonNa Save the day their average football teams. Can I make a public apology right. Here Carson Wentz because we did is highlight the throw that he whizzed past wiles mile centers in the back end zone. I kind of downplayed it. I went back and watched it last night. That Bro was and I did not give enough credit I Apologize Carson wedding and hand if you noticed when he was scrambling he kind of looked off the defensive a little bit back towards the middle of the oldest. I didn't have my glasses on this great pie. Apologized Dr Carson Wentz. It was insane. Things are bad when your head coach has to have multiple press conferences inches over the course of the season to talk about either t shirts. He should not have been wearing things he should not have been. This is the head coach by the way. What do you think the browns should do? Should they clean house and start fresh by building around Baker. No you don't Clean House if you clean house you're getting rib two very talented receivers getting rid of one of the better running backs talented to your thirteen though. Yeah but you need a better leader. That's what they need all these things you're talking about. Come get me all those things. Those are the results of guys in teams. Losing I've been on the team. It was losing in right after the Super Bowl. We were six and ten and we had a lot of infighting in our football team. When you lose everything goes wrong everything from your meal in the morning morning from your lunch from your dinner? Everything is absolutely wrong. We start winning things change and I think the attitudes on the sideline players are saying will change as well in order to do that. You gotta get rid of Freddie Kitchens. Now that's just answer. You need a better leader. A guy with more confidence guys. So here's the thing. If you respect your coach you don't go yell at them like that on the side like you don't have that type of blow up on the sideline with your head coach. You just don't do it or if you do after the game you come to me and say I shouldn't have done that. I was out of line. You don't make that. What type of mistake? These guys don't respect for kitchens because he doesn't have the pedigree he hasn't done it in the NFL and because of that these guys are wavered. They're all over the place. If you get a Costa gets in there focuses your team finds a way to get Baker to stop throwing the ball to the opposing team. This is a different type of football team. You could win then then guys WanNa be there but right now because of all the losing. Everyone's GonNa be saying everything and that happens on every team across the NFL. Clearly you want to build around Baker Mayfield man. You drafted him for a reason to make them your franchise quarterback you've seen glimpses rookie season where the future was bright. It was promising. Now you've had this regression and I do think it focuses on the quarterback coach relationship relationship and not only from A. How do they get along? But how are they executing more importantly on the field and there's just been a severe setback. There's been a lot of film study Saudi and Breakdowns of why isn't he. Put me in better positions. Why aren't utilizing Odell Beckham or is one of the most talented receivers in the game and it has been an absolute disaster from that standpoint point? I do think you do need to John. Dorsey when you're the general manager it's one thing to acquire talent but you have to acquire the right talent let for your locker room. There has to be chemistry there at the guys that buy into your franchise and to their surroundings and I think John John Dorsey does need Abbas the sit down with Odell Beckham Jarvis. Landry is probably fine. He's over a thousand yards like he's still producing but I think he needs to sit down to Odell Beckham and say hey. I'm seeing these reports sports. I'm seeing do you want out of here. Do you want out here or do you want to win here. Do you want to be a part of this rebuild and if the answer is anything other than yes shot you ask ask why. But if he does then you don't want him on your team and you try to trade him bringing some pieces and people who actually want to be there. What is clean house me like ooh elite starts at the head coach and so I think everybody with the disgruntled guys on the team? Who have shown they may want to be? There may not want to be so. I think we all agree on the head coach. She is the the the reason I asked. The question is the clean house was doesn't screen clean. Awesome built around Baker building around Baker means giving him towns wide receivers achievers means giving him talented players. The the the browns have to flashing red light problems this year. None of them involve the kid formerly with the yellow hair they are the head. Coach is in over his head and the quarterback has been a disaster now. People want to blame Baker's performance formats on the arrival of Odell Beckham. You can't do that. I think you would look foolish knowing that anyone's no no right so I so the point being Baker stats this year are undeniably bad. You cannot win in this league. It is a coach of Quarterback League with sub-standard coaching while. Also having substandard. Your quarterback play you. Can I would argue the packers for a few years. One with what. I considered substandard coaching with great quarterback. Play this year. The Patriots are winning with Substandard quarterback playing great coaching. If you have both you're a disaster right now. The browns are disaster. Baker is to has only three quarterbacks have have more to quarterbacks having more picks he's twenty eighth in completion percentage he's thirty ambassador rating like you. That's a disastrous. Can't build a team around Odell. You have no choice but to build the team around Baker. Of course I I. I'm not I'm not arguing. You build around del. What I'm saying is that we we are to me? We are searching for reasons why this has gone poorly for the browns when it is very obvious. The coaches in over his head and the quarterback DOC has regressed massively. It is John Dorsey job to find the coach. That can either hire a staff that can get Baker back on track or who individually. Julie can get Baker back on track. That is the answer to the questions. Here is get the quarterback on the trajectory. He was last year. You hired this coach because because of that and that alone and it's been a total failure to go along with all the other stuff that you're mentioning the distractions caused by the head coach. which should never happen? Even if you you find a deepest a coach Ron Rivera. You need offense coordinator exam. That's a quarterback that can get back to fundamentals for Baker. The thing I would do in Cleveland it would be pretty simple. We're not gonNA AH depend on you to throw the ball thirty five forty times a game. We're going to run the ball thirty five times with Nick sub. We're going to get you some action. We're going to want you to be more accurate than you've been in the past. We can't throw a seventeen touchdowns and seventeen interceptions. We're GONNA put you in a situation where now you can get the ball out of your hands. We want you to be a point guard instead of the score. Are we want you to be the guy that we can depend on to be accurate and down the field that's it. We don't need you to win every football game right now. Baker has thought process that he has to win every game for this team. That's not what he needs to be at this point. It's Baker trying to do that. But it's also Freddie kitchens trying to make everybody happy and feeding his big name wide receivers and hearing in his head constant Consta- reported we gotta get Odell involve we gotta get and building game plans around trying to go out there and get involved when maybe the best thing for. The team is to give the ball to chop and let them run. That's why he's over his his head because I think he's listening to all these different voices but when you talk about cleaning house you are when you fire the head coach Clinton. You're getting new. Offense scored do defensive coordinator. You it's going to be and you need to you need you need a new culture. Somebody's going to get a little more. DISCIPLINED IS GONNA get more buy in and then you know offensively defensively you want a system system that is going to elevate Baker Mayfield. Look at Jared Goff his rookie season. It was thus guys bust. Those guys would have wasted wasted drastic. Sean mcvay comes in their massive turnaround. Super Bowl you know. APPEARANCE FOR JARED GOFF GETS A new contract. You have to have somebody that's going to build a system that fits Baker Mayfield skillset whether it's the head coach or the offense and someone who can teach. HBO Baker this year as soon as you get the snap. Don't just frontier right stand in the Damn e looks aired the first time in his whole grueling football. He looks scared and tentative this year. He never looked at Oklahoma. He did not look like that his rookie season improve his skill set at some point. His individual athletic ability got him. Pass the home in early on any athlete he has. He has to be a better skilled player. He can do that. He can chant inch B dubs one play little inner out okay. Last night drew brees led the Saints Deigns to their eleventh win of the season on his historic night but the packers seahawks forty niners. All have eleven wins well any winter out on the Saints Being Amy Best Team in the NFC outmanned we fall in love with what we just saw it. It was impressive and it was a great story for drew brees but are we forgetting the defense giving up forty nine points the same as the San Francisco Forty niners including that game winning drive Garoppolo just right down the field like it was not a big deal I think the seahawks are the teams the NFC stuck with us from day one. I'm sticking with them through thick and thin. You know. I'm in now have been accused before viewing something and loving whatever I saw last and so I saw last night a saints team that pensively looked unstoppable. They have the ability to run drew. brees looked better than he ever had. But deep getting things going in I think that deepens can win especially if teams have to go through. The superdome doesn't mean that I necessarily think this team's going to make the super bowl because where the how the playoff seedings fall is critically really important to that but right now they're the most complete team in the NFC. They went five without drew. brees they have a legitimate running game. You mentioned Michael Thomas Without question one of the five best receivers and football us that he might have the best hands. All the deep into the only question I have for the saints is they lost rankings and Davenport along that defensive line didn't hurt him last night could it hurt them in the postseason possible right now. They're the most complete team in the NFC. Swimming I'd sticking with the saints. A big reason for drew brees success. This past few you seasons has been his star wide out. Michael Thomas Thomas just eleven catches shy now of breaking Marvin Harrison's record for most catches in a season with one hundred Jeff forty-three Danny winter out on Thomas Breaking the record this week I am in on this one. We've all documented how it's the only weapon really that drew brees has to go with. Plus you've got Malcolm Butler out for the season. Dorie Jackson's missed a couple of game games recently. Who knows if he's even play here for the titans so they've got some issues on the defensive offensive side of the ball? I think he's going to get it as well. I think when you think about drew region saying he doesn't like the glory things like that but he always has his eyes or records. Mike Mike Thomas Guest this record. Next week he's had eight games with double digit catches. This happens this coming week. I'm out that it happens this week. I'm not quite as certain as all of you do that. It's going to happen at all. Only because I mean if Marvin Harrison Calls Michael Thomasson says I don't want you to break my record if I'm Michael Thomas. I'm listening to Marvin Harrison. Whatever he says he would need eleven to do it this week? More likely in week. Seventeen us more than six times this year. they're more last night. I maybe on factoring in a Marvin Harrison math here that you guys are not but I am out on it happened. I got ya one in Rome. The Carolina Panthers Reportedly Early Bench Kyle Allen for third. Rookie quarterback will greer. which now has some speculating? That maybe the panthers will indeed bring back Cam. Newton next exceed Danny winner out on Carolina bringing back Cam. I've done like a full one. Eighty on this one was out on earlier in the season. Two and maybe he's John Rear. I was in yeah. I still think that's a question. Because of his health I think it's whereas he health wise but if he's healthy if he passes all the medical tests he feels good enough to go and the way things have transpired with Kyle Allen I don't think will greer is going to be the answer either. He's cheap bring him back for one more year and Carolina bringing a coach. WHO's GonNa utilize utilize them and say you know what I'm GonNa buy into Cam? Newton it see if you can give it a run. Twenty million dollars is a bargain in today's environment. I'm in as well. It's going to depend on his health if he could come back healthy. I would just drag quarterback like you mentioned but I will use cam up as much as I could allow this young quarterback to mature behind Cam and then use your young quarterback in the next couple of a years. I have not moved to one hundred eighty degrees on this. Where I've been the whole time I fell in love with Kyle is a four game winning streak? Guess what guy alone it turned into back into. Kyle I went to multiple colleges. The Guy who went undrafted. The guy was cut twice before he caught on with the panthers. He obviously when they said Ed in theory. Moving on from Cam Newton. I sat here and told you. They will be in the market for a quarterback again a year from now guaranteed there are now realizing that guy along couldn't even make it through the year before they're like okay. He's not the answer there now to will greer of course keep Cam Newton all the narrative surrounding cam has been as if he's a pending free agent. I would be anxious about giving Cam Newton a long term contract extension or a new contract because of the injury stuff but twenty million bucks is nick. Foles is money in this league. Of course you keep Cam Newton. Of course I'm in Nanan. Narrative is changing. We're allowed to do that right. I apologize the Carson Wentz before Karachi has stayed the exact same all year. Long all right. The cowboys choice picked up a big win Sunday over the La Rams. It was their first win this season against a team with a winning record after the game cowboys legend and Fox. NFL analyst Troy Aikman Quinn. Who hasn't shied away from criticizing this team? This season talked about just how dangerous Dallas can be. This was their best team win. And I think Dak Prescott said it best. It was a very complimentary win and I think the takeaway from this is that what we knew coming into the season quite honestly if this. His team is playing the way that they're capable plane. We know that they can move the football really against anybody. We know that they have the ability defensively to just smother opponents much like they did here tonight against the Los Angeles Rams they can play with anybody and that's why is bad as the season has looked at times. It's not so far fetched that thank that. They can't can get hot at just the right time and anything can happen. They just got to get in. I know team next week against the Philadelphia. Eagles obviously is a big start. Just that just escape first and then you should be offset Nikki think an NFC front runners should be dreading the dallas cowboys in the playoffs. No I'd be the the opposite of that licking my chops. I'd be excited to play them. I the the cowboys are Cowboys Eagles. Whoever wins this this is just massive? Division vision is going to be the worst team in the postseason neck and neck with whomever the last wildcard out of the AFC is used in. Pittsburgh might get in Pittsburgh with duck. Hodges or Mason Rudolph the quarterback then you could argue you know an eye test but of the twelve team gets in Dallas if they get in either gonNA. It'd be the eleventh or twelfth. You want to play that team. You would rather have a by if you're one of the top four teams in the NFC. The next best thing is going to Dallas and whooping up on this football team I the I I heard what Troy said which is peaking at the right time. We'll define peaking because they were at at the need. They were at the ultimate low point of their season the day before the rams game coming off three straight losses where you against New England. When I didn't think they played that poorly actually against doing the offense couldn't get anything going? They had the ridiculous tripping calls go against them but who cares about it because actually benefit the Patriots. So let's not have a key officiating controversy and then but Jerry Jones was angry about that game and then he really should have been angry about the pills game on Thanksgiving and should have been livid about about the bears game the following Thursday. You'd ten days to prepare for another team that I was a little fraudulent and the rams that was like oh are they peaking now no they are who they were through the first twelve weeks. The cowboys are who they've been Danny through fourteen weeks a team with immense talent that is under achieved consistently that's had six opportunities -tunities to put it all together a good team and has done it precisely. Once in order for them to go on this run they would have to do it again. Next week against Philli and then again in the wildcard weakening into the San Francisco Seattle. It's not going to happen. You make excellent points but you guys are crazy. You're crazy. Tell me a coach. That would say we're excited about having the opportunity to stop the number one ranked offense yards per game the number one ranked offense. It's yards per play the number two passing offense the third-best on on I on third downs. This offense is scary now. I get what you're saying. But if and that's a big if if they continue this momentum and I might be sound like I'm talking about both sides of my mouth 'cause I kind of like the eagles with the points but if they somehow win the division Asian and they play well these last two games I guarantee you. Nobody wants to go to Dallas to face the type of weapons they have they have a top tier running back Ezekiel uh-huh Elliott they have an MVP candidate member at the beginning of the season we were all in on Dak Prescott who can make plays with his legs he does present some problems. Amari Cooper Amari Cooper is a top five wide receiver in the NFL. As far as what the threat is to what he can do to you. That is a scary proposition. Oh by the way their defense is top. Ten and a lot of categories boys coaches would be dreading having to go on the road to face that team all right so let's look at the eight teams that we believe. Let's assume Dallas. When's the tuition Are going to be division winners. You Have Baltimore New England. Houston Kansas City Dallas New Orleans Green Bay and Seattle right so those are eight division winners. Not let's just pretend. The playoff format was the best team. That doesn't win and division gets to pick which place they go to Right So San Francisco you can pick those eight guess what their top pick is Dallas but all the teams you could face Dallas too but put it this way if they do you think they would be. I don't think that I think it was the eagles they would say. Sign US up. Let's go we'll we'll go to Philadelphia we. Are I think with the cowboys. They're they're more nervous saying men we're getting screwed by the system because we have to go on the road with eleven or twelve. Well he shouldn't be shy of but I do think it makes them nervous. I do not think they WANNA WANNA play this. Dallas cowboys came well if they win. Sunday eighteen is going to have to play this Dallas cowboys team. 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Kyrie & Mid-Season MVP

"Good mood today despite the weather out in Los Angeles. And everybody's freaking out. It's been raining nonstop. I didn't really know what to expect it is this kind of how it works here. Is this your winner? And they're like, no, this is the most rain, I think it was a couple of guys big time Hollywood types, and they're like, this is the worst. It's fan and eighteen years. I don't even know if that's true. Someone will fact check it. Tell me that the precipitation numbers from four were a lot on telling you that the first six months, I was here it never rained ring twice. Now. It's rained every single day. I don't care. I'm getting work done. And yes, it's good. The state needs the water. But then again, I understand because of the Malibu Thousand Oaks fires now here that it is an idea. So there is your California updates Cerruti. How are you? Good. I think we're about to get dumped the puts no here in the northeast. So you for being out there? I was actually thinking though, so yeah, it's been super nice the entire time there. How do you get work done? I just do it. I mean, there's days where you go. Okay. This is what I'm doing when I was living at Christmas house Malibu. I I wrote I think two scripts while I lived there. So I didn't I went out. I think one night in two months. So when I first got the town people like, oh, man, you must be you must be loving it like going out alive. You don't have to work that much and not really, you know, because once you're up in Malibu just up there. That's that's your thing. But you know, what I'm gonna good mood today. There's a bunch of reasons why I'm going to get mood. I have a ton of things I want to get to Brian win horse. I can see them right now at seven ten studios. He's scheduled to come over. I knew my halfway NBA wards, it feels a little cliche. But almost necessary I'm going to the clippers go and say words tomorrow night. I have a little on Zion Williamson thing because Spain fits Spain fits radio show, ESPN radio six eastern fits had me on. He was riding solo. And asked me a question about Zayn Williamson light on we'll show is good. My answer was good. His question was not. Yeah. I love fits. But and I really do mean that he's really helluva guy unless he's the biggest phoney ever, and is really nice. And then three years he's going to be super difficult being like, do you guys? Not remember that. I'm the fiddle. God. It's wasn't a good. Do that would be the shocker of century fits was secretly the worst. That would be really funny. I almost I almost root for it. In a way, you know that everybody people are nice in the beginning. But you know, so there's also maybe a Trevor Lawrence. There's a bunch much stuff. And then I retired. But before we do any of that. And I know I'll probably end up doing only half of it have you ever dreamed that you murder show. I should say it this way have you ever dreamt that you murdered somebody? Yes. Wow. Okay. Tell me about. I mean, I think it was a buddy it was a while ago. It was like drunk night in college. It was a buddy I actually woke up like Kana nervous about it. Because it's one of those ones to real over the details of live. But it was like, I murdered friend of mine. You killed your friend. Yeah. May or may not be over a game of Madden. Hugh, murdered your friend in your dream, probably because an outcome and Matt. Yeah. But I don't remember like like, I don't remember how or why just remember like the feeling of waking up and being like, okay. That was not real. Thank god. It's crazy when that stuff happens because it happened to me last night, and it was really real. And you know, I don't sleep as much as I should everybody. That knows me knows this. I wish I slept more. I just don't my brain never turns off and I do. Yeah. No. And I don't mean is like, I'm more. I mean, it's like it's freaking maddening especially for somebody who's by themselves much. But. I killed two people. But it wasn't like I didn't actually murder them in the dream. But it was very clear I had killed people. Apparently, I was in South America. And I just had murdered a couple of independent of each other. So I was just I I went down there. I don't know what the hell is going on two separate murders double separate murders had murdered two different people. And then I was down there. And then I got shot and the dream. And I have a buddy named Mark from Colorado who already his turn this podcast off. Because he just there's one thing he hates. He hates the Russians. Now, I'm just kidding. I don't even know how it feels about Russians but in the eighties. You could say, I guess you could say hate the Russians again now, I don't think anybody ever starts getting into like discriminatory things when anybody says they hate the Russians, but Mark more than anything. Mark from Colorado hates when people talk about dreams. He hates it. I probably don't care about anybody else's dreams. But it's just so weird. When you kill someone in a dream, and I had two bodies on me separate, and I you know, I don't wanna say anything. South america. But Google som stats. It's it's not what I told the buddy matters. Like I'd like to check out Venezuela. And they're like would you even I don't that's terrible idea. Yeah. Right. Because when I was in a ruble, once they were found some sort of charter thing that was like head over to Columbia. And I think it was I was like I really wanna try Venezuela. And they're like, no, no, you don't don't do that. I don't know, man. I've seen some stuff on Instagram. Venezuela was awesome. But I don't think you can just get off the plane and be like, I'm here for the Instagram hotties. Yeah. So I woke up, and I'm like, how am I going to explain this ESPN? I'm eventually going to catch up to me that killed these people. Right. It's gotta catch up to me. And then, you know, the dusk comes out of the is. And you're like, wait a minute. I'm not a murderer. Don't even have to worry about this. So the rest of the day, it's been it's been high flying man, are you writing show in which someone gets murder like because obviously like, you know, dreams are basically things you've been thinking about right, and they just like manifest in your dreams. But so is there some sort of murder plot in show, you're writing take? No as out the Marica. Yeah. Right now, I have I. Yeah. Actually, I'm working on a pilot where this guy's really lonely, and he checks out a bunch of smoke shows from Venezuela on Instagram, and then he flies down there. And then because he doesn't fit in and he gets hammered, and then he starts murdering left and right and then rent motorcycle. Yeah. That's actually that was I'd watch that. Honestly, I can imagine somebody deeming me right now going how much do you want for that show? No. I don't have anything that's like a murder murder show. There are deaths in some of the shows. I actually am very close to having a big announcement on one of the scripted projects. But I don't know if I want to do the Instagram fake life update where I could give you a nice kind of like thing that's going to sound really cool, and it's going to sound cool. But it's gonna be a hell of a lot cooler if I wait until the second part of it. So I think what I just did is decide mid-sentence that. I'm not going to share that. I could have something really cool coming here. So I will say to a buddy of mine, we're playing thief last night. He said he would. One hundred percent interested in your self help books that we talked about last week. A lot of people are into the self help thing there is. My agent did call me it was like do you want to try to do this? But the problem is when all you do is right in your spare time either watching hoops arm writing. And although I do go to the beach and try to take a little break and read I do- highly suggest reading Iran churn out books start to finish takes a very long time. But it is worth it very gratifying always wanted to do it. Now, I finally done it feel like I'm better than you. Not USA Rudy. But just in general. I guess I don't know. No, no, no. I didn't came off. I was I hope people realize that I'm making fun of then I laugh at my joke. It's really hard to be hey in in my other free time now now I'm gonna keep writing. So I don't know. I don't know. I gotta put down a chapter, and then we'll take it from there. But yeah, the good folks over ICM did call about that. So that's that's rat. Right now. There was a little bit of an update. What should we start with? Should we break down the kyri thing? Do you wanna put that sound in there? Yeah. Okay. So here's kyri talking about calling LeBron after the Celtics win against the raptors off us for a young player wanted to everything got his fingertips. I wanted everything to the threshold. I wanted to be the guy that let us change leader. I wanted to be all that and another responsibility being best player in the world. Leading team is something that's not meant for many people browse while those guys that came in Cleveland and tried to so it's like the championship and it was hard. Sometimes the most the group he's not the easiest thing in the world. Like, I said only fewer are myth for chosen forward. And you know, I feel like the best person called the ten because you know, he's been in the situation. So let me let me kick this one to you. I did you guys talk about this. And we'll show today. We need a little on it. This thing has gone from zero to one hundred real quick where now he's gonna wanna play LeBron and the Lakers that seems a tad excessive that that seems getting ahead of ourselves here. What did you think of it? I think specifically the LeBron Lakers part of it. I think LeBron have to be so desperate to take back. So I I mean, maybe that eventually happens if he strikes out with every other free agent, but I just can't see that coming and to me this whole kyri thing. I think. arE? How do I say this without I'm not even trying to take a shot at him because everybody goes through this phase in their life where they discover themselves, and they you know, they're reading new things and like, you don't even know who you are. And he's still pretty young and I hundred usually it's about ten or fifteen years after this age, but go so I just feel like he says things that he thinks he supposed to say like thinks he's supposed to be mature intellectual guy. So whenever he does things like this or talks about like different theories. He knows or like talks about like calling the Braun. I think he thinks he should be doing these things. They cough was kind of fake to me that that was my first impression of it. Yeah. I think he nailed it. After the fact this wasn't about called the Braun. This was about hey, I was young annoying to LeBron which is true. But it also can be incredibly annoying to be around that LeBron bubble. Okay. So this is one of those things I feel like some of this. Lebron stuff becomes like pro-life pro-choice where you have to like as a sports guy. Go I'm pro choice or like, I'm I'm this like where are you on LeBron? Oh, I'm this. We'll know sometimes you can't really be in between on pro-life pro-choice. But what you can be in between when it's something far less serious like how you feel about an athlete's legacy. And you know, when kyri had said, I don't want LeBron here. We don't need them. It's like bro shut up. Give me a break. And then he gets there. And then when he asked out I initially was like, man Kyrie's the worst. But then I don't know why people resist this because win horses talked about it. David Griffin has talked about it. I've talked about it and that kyri found. Wait a minute. You had me traded out of here like peace. I'm gonna do my own thing. And I I don't know if people like this or not so you tell me Cerruti if it's off base, but I do think there because my life, I know myself better than any other person. I talk about I know how I fell in the Scott and Ryan dynamic like, I know what that was like, and there are kind of even the ones for more impressive in difficult and cooler than two guys doing radio show. But when I first did the show, Scott, nobody else wanted me to be his partner management in want me to be the guy. They wanted to be Erica silliest with somebody that they really wanted to be the host of Steven A at times, I think they even try to go like herbstreet Fowler. And you know, of course, they didn't want me because you know, at the time I was in management is a nobody like we're going to do this. And that's why they didn't put my name on the show because they didn't want. They felt like that would actually hurt the show with sales which I always thought was short term, but many program decisions specially radio very short term decisions. And ultimately MC my argument. Was like, yeah. But if you just my name on the show now like in four years, it's not gonna be weird like we can build this thing. And it was like, no. So I'll give a man of Brown was first producer who's actually out here. Seven ten ESPN. Now she wanted me on it Scotland. Ultimately, Scott wanted me on Scott's like look you guys can vote for everybody else and have the vote. The only vote that really matters is the guy that's going to do it every day. And if you want me to do it with somebody, I don't wanna do it with then guess what? I don't have to do it. I can just stand sportscenter, and that's gonna go pretty well too. So they gave an Scott, and I had to have meetings with the principal and sell myself after I'd been at the company for three plus years already. And if you're Scott, you will always kind of look at me as like if it wasn't for me Ryan wouldn't have made it or wouldn't be what he is today, and that might be one hundred cents. Okay. And I'm sure people listening to be like, what do you mean might be one hundred percent true in Scott believes that who's gonna tell Scott that he's wrong? And there were times Scott would remind. Me of that. I look at it is I think good what I do. And if it wasn't gonna be that it would have been something else that eventually I would have been successful. And I think that's true. I think both are true Scott helped me, and I also believe in myself. And so not to say Scott is LeBron I'm Kyra. But there are some similarities of the dynamic of one person feeling like they're in charge of the other one person feeling like the other person's sort of owes it to that person. And for kyri. He's like, dude, I'm nasty. Okay. I can go do my own thing. And I want my own team. Especially after I feel like you may have shipped me out of here for somebody else, but the deal fell through and LeBron and his crew were like, look your signature shoe and Nike that's because of us, dude. That's because of us your ascension to the next year wherever you are at the non defensive high volume score that was going to be the leader on awful teams. We'll have fun with that have fun getting twenty five game winning thirty. Will now with us. You hit the shot against the warriors in one of the greatest comebacks ever considering the warriors were that year. And now, you're just you're forever. Your legacy like there's a floor. You can't go below now because of what we did together. So yeah, you're nasty. Yeah. You're all these things. But at the end of the day, like, you're you're who you are. It has a lot to do with me. So that's why that kyri LeBron thing is interest because I don't even know how much kyri really believes like I don't I don't it's weird. Because like, you know, there's this thing about leadership and that the worst worst than not wanting to be a leader is somebody who wants to be a leader that doesn't have leadership skills. So if you don't have them, and I don't know if Kyrie Hasim, and I'll admit like is nasty Eze is. I don't know if he's that guy that really is not saying the right things. It's not doing the right things with cameras around. It's like do people actually buy into you, do you inspire others in whatever way, you need to do it or do you just rehearse the right things to say, I think that Duke guy some of the Duke, I don't know what the hell they do down there. But sometimes the Duke guys say stuff, and you're like is this what you think or is this what you think sounds cool. So I'm still kind of undecided on the whole thing. Because part of it feels like in that went that storyline. They're like, oh, that's really it shows maturity shows girl that shows all these maybe or maybe it's just him being his really clever way of me making it sound like I'm I'm cool LeBron. But what I'm really doing is telling these younger dudes to step it up when those younger are like, hey, do while you were injured. We're a couple of buckets away from playing in the NBA finals out you, so, you know, what do you what do you wanna do like, I'm open for almost any opinion on kyri? And I don't know that. I would tell anybody that the wrong other than. This. Hey is gonna be in a Lakers uniform this summer, which I think is far too soon because of one comment. Yeah. I heard a goal junior actually say this morning, if you wanna be a leader, you're you're maturing as a leader. Then you don't talk about being a leader. You just lead. You just do it. You know, you talk to your teammates. You don't talk about it in the media going back to the point you made about like Scott and that beginning, I mean, I get why Cairo would be like, man. Like, I'm, you know, everyone wants to prove themselves and say, I'm just as good. I could be I could be the best player on a championship team. I don't use the brawn, and I'm sure it gets tiring after a while for sure, but he did have a few years and grand. They were his first few years Lee that we're like, you know, wins and losses wise as bad as gets. So I don't know like I get I get being cocky, and I get wanting to do your own thing. And I also get like looking in retrospect and being like, yeah. That was kind of I was kind of being you know, I was I was being a tool of years ago. I'm sorry. I just I just feel like nothing. He says comes off as genuine. Yeah. I don't I respect him the player. I'm undecided. Leaning towards pretty over it with the commentary, which is maybe a no win situation for him. But I really I do think he wants to be somebody that's perceived as this, massive, intellectual and. You know, he'll like all right, dude. It just it's hard. It's hard when you're young by the way to be convincing that way, even though he's been in the league along time. And we're still talking about a really young guy as I get older. I start to go like I really wanna be that do given a young guy hard time all the time. But there there's I guess I can never get over that. I take thing when he said when you were very much woke and that was like, wait a minute. What did you actually think that sounded good? And by the way, I don't think I ever had thirty win season without Scott. Yeah. But I will tell you that their moments were Scott would have been like all right russillo. We got it. Take it easy. And he was right. But I was just going. All right. So this is this is how we're gonna start this thing. Like, I'm I'm gonna prove myself, and I'm gonna be great. And that was never toward Scott. It was always towards people doubted me, and I actually do think that one works, and you know, whenever I can relate it to something I understand as well as the dynamic of working with maybe the biggest already peon Scott, and the challenge that I had the things I was right or wrong about that one actually makes makes a lot of sense. But this it's always predictable. Don't you think? Now, maybe more than ever is that and I've said Mary your takes before. But I already know who the pro kyri people are going to be I know who the anti repeal are going to be like, no one surprises me anymore. No one. No one does. No one. No one. That's like, oh, you know. Kyrie's a great leader. I get really right that I could write it down the night before and be like here the list of people that are gonna go on TV tomorrow to say like how great kyri is. And that this is showing leadership, and this is all these different things. Maybe maybe it does. Or maybe maybe Tatum, and Jalen Brown or whatever, dude. Like, we don't we don't need. I think the bigger issue is with the price tag. Kyrie's going to be and the knee injury stuff. And how weird it's worked. There are people around the league that go out. There struggling only because the kyri which I think is totally unfair. They're struggling because they're still searching for what they wanna do with closing group that doesn't include Gordon Hayward yet every national broadcast keeps talking about how gray Gordon Hayward is in the wrong. The Marcus smart thing is working on paper. But it's really probably more because Marcus Morris starts, and it was a really nice win against Toronto. And really they won because kyri. So I don't I don't know what you do. But it's it's been kind of out of Boston. At least very confident gonna resign him don't worry about it. And then sometimes I go what if he's actually the guy that you don't want to invest all that money and not only because of personality, but also because an injury. But then you start doing the thing that I always do is go you can't wait around for the perfect fit superstar. You have to make the move when you could. And that's why Boston did what they did. And. I wouldn't I wouldn't begrudge. I'm probably not gonna be grudging going head and get them all the money because it's like, okay. What are you going to do? What's the other plant who's the other top? You know, we're not talking top ten player, but top-five score. Who's at other guy that you're gonna get when it comes down to big time playoff games. It can go get you a bucket when everything else falls apart. I don't think there's four guys that are ahead of career. There's not five guys that are headed kyri right now in the league. So there you go you wanna do midseason stuff here? What do it anything else? You want to add to that? I I think you, and I are in group as you, and I agree on this. And maybe we're part of the group that wasn't gonna change their mind about kyri, which I thought about as you're saying that, but maybe we're just as guilty as everything that I'm saying like. Just as I pointed out numerous times, I'm I'm all set with the guy or girl that does what we do. That is always one hundred percent behind the player all the time. And I don't I don't really get that. I don't think it's really about what the individual says what the individual is doing or not doing. I think it's always about like, this sort of management non management thing. Like, I always take the side of not management. So therefore when a player says something that maybe perceived dumb as the public puts it out there. I'm not even talking about Kyrenia surly on this point. But just the player can do no wrong in some media members is when like Antonio Brown's perfect example, like if you're still pro Antonio Brown if you're a Steelers fan and you love 'em. You wanna Chaim good for you? I would want the same thing because he's he's nasty. But if you're telling me like the team has done him wrong and that he's not a selfish guy. Like, we're not gonna get a summer house together. MVP? What do you think I'm gonna do for me is like the reasons he buys thing? Or is. It is it. Yes. I have honest third. Wow. Okay. I have one. That's all right. I'm not going to tell you wrong. We were we were on. I take. I'd say that's cool. I can't fight with you right now segment. No wouldn't be. I take me. Like you guys are arguing about this. Not doing it, which actually would be bad TV to be like, hey, we're gonna come on in twelve seconds or slow and you're gonna disagree about Yoenis priscilla's going to say, hey, that's cool. Man. I respect your opinion. Brady or LeBron greater legacy. Go I gonna put hard and one. I don't. We know what I don't wanna do is. They don't wanna do the thing. Because there are I don't really know. What else did you? I mean, everybody knows my position on harden thing. I cannot believe he's officiated this way. Whether it's the traveling whether it's inititing contract contact or the fact that he's allowed to just flip guys off of him. Now, Joe Harris getting knocked over backwards, and then of course, sports in his Twitter feed tweets at every single one because I don't I don't get it. I don't know who's running that feed. But harden shoves defender to the ground. We're like, oh my God harden put them in the blender, and it's an offensive foul every single time. But you know, what else is going on is Chris Paul has been hurt this whole time Capellas now gonna miss a bunch of time. Eric, Gordon just came back and his range heir, Gordon may go down as as current players as far as acceptable pull up range like he might be in that group of dudes. And I would say harden and Currier, the only guys consistently can take this many shots and do this. So yes, it's well documented there things about hardened that I feel like it's. Sort of equalize what he is in. When people start saying he may be the best offense player of all time. There's a couple of things you have to remember here. The pace now is beyond anything we've seen in a long time. Now, if you want to go back to the will Oscar Robertson days the pace they're the number of shots. Rebound opportunities. That's why Westbrook's triple double is more impressive than Oscar Robertson's. It is. But when the seven seconds or less sons would be in the bottom of the league and pace. Now, and everybody's taking threes. I mean, hardens take thirteen threes a game in his three point shooting percentage is actually like up I think for the highest in four years and he's taking twenty three shots game. And he's like forty percent usage rate any has the highest percentage of dribbles. I mean, I don't know how you would track. I guess they could track it somewhere where how often a ball is in a players. I can't even imagine the gap between Hardin, and then the next guy and Westbrook had an absurd usage rate in his triple double season that was like forty two forty three. And then Dangelo Russell was right there. Russell has won thirty six or thirty seven which is just stupid, but hardened is at forty which is still a little bit low that Westberg thing, but it's a lot. Like that thing. I talked about is that we're having these individuals seasons of greatness to typically because we've never had and I'm talking about Jordan days, the Koby touched on it a few times some of those Lakers teams. But it is so singular one person that dominates the ball in ways that we just don't see that often. But it's all happening at the same time Westbrook seasons. Not so much now hardened currently right now, especially with the injuries the Isaiah Thomas Celtics season that guy loves it tweet. So there's there's a greatness of harden, which is true his shot making put he in curry in that group together his handle it if it's not kyri or steps, maybe it's better than Steffes. Maybe it's just below Kyrie's. I mean, that's gonna be who's who you buy jerseys of whoever you're gonna argue for that once not interested in that deal. So it is great. But I feel like whatever governor there should have been on this by the league league hasn't figured out how to officiate him and he's allowed to do a ton of different things. So even having said all those things. I still think you have to give them the MVP halfway through the season, which is saying something because I've looked at you know, this historically have said this numerous times, even go back to the radio show is like staff after blowing the three one lead, and being unanimous MVP, which is always a stupid thing that people try to hold against him because other morons voted wrong with previous MVP's that I think he was gonna win one again and they'd hold against them. And I thought with Harden's awful playoff exits in missing million shots and row the Western Conference finals the end of that Spurs series, which was joke. He's bad. I didn't think he'd ever win the VP again after finally getting one that maybe some other voters felt like he should have gotten before. And now he might get it. So I have Hardin one. I have Anthony Davis second. He is nineteenth in usage. All right. Anthony Davis is number one in some of the metrics ahead of harden. But Davis the rebounding numbers are up like he's jumped up three rebound the assist numbers of almost doubled. The scoring is through the roof the efficiencies insane. And yet he's still he's behind eighteen other players in usage, that's criminal. And even watching them they fought with the war is that was a tough game for Golden State. And then they Steph them in the third quarter and Steph of doing that little thing where you're like, hey, is it not as fun anymore. Is it not as cool like Steph razors? Something like, oh, wait a minute. It's just not as new or Steph changed the way we looked at outside shooting, and he's still can do it. And he didn't in the third quarter. But to not get Davis touches to. Least allow him to pass off of help is stupid like they they should be. He should have top ten usage rate. But I know because he's a big he's not a premium player. That's not gonna happen, but he has burner skills, and I have Jaanus third, which I I know as I say that loud feel stupid, but. I know that I should have Janas probably higher because his team is better than the pelicans. But you know, I'm going east west, you know, look, if you listen to this right now going, that's so stupid. You gotta have Janas at least second. You know, if not I that's fine. Once I saw that usage thing when they Anthony Davis. I went I'm sorry. I'm putting him there. And the numbers are even better. And he actually may be the best player in the world right now. And they're going to have to trade him, which is the worst. Yeah. I mean Janas for me like his you probably have the numbers. I don't have taught my head. But like his efficiency numbers like around the rim are just absurd. The guy soul doesn't really have that much of an outside shot, and he's dominating games, which is awesome. And there I think I believe he has them as a top five off its van defense. If you make the only team in league, it's that. So I don't know. I thought you were going to say co why I was surprised by the Anthony Davis one. But I mean, obviously, his stats are always going to be super impressive. It's you know, it is sort of tied to like a team award, right? If your team is, and you know, his team hasn't been as good periods. So maybe I'm being maybe that's not fair that I'm knocking him for that. But that's kinda why wouldn't have Andy Davis on that radar. Yeah. The thing before the season started. I went on with Simmons. We started looking at odds on all the MVP guys. There's a ton of value there for like that should be higher. And who knows maybe it's gonna work out with them. I mean as it stands now, the pelicans are actually three and a half games out of the playoffs. So yeah, I get most people are gonna listen to this and be like, that's really stupid. But if we're talking about and he would never win it. He would never win it in the team has to be in the playoffs and Houston found a way to push this thing forward here. But whenever I look at like, you know, Habur stroke, not to not upset with my boy, Tom. He must think I hate his guts because I don't think I ever bring it up around like really lovely said. But you know, soon is LeBron got hurt. He he showed the increase in pace. This is the highest pace. And it's like, oh, so it's pace, and it's minutes and all these things because what about the part where he doesn't play defense. You know, what about that part? And if you're looking at heart and people on really worried he's gonna break down when they lost San Antonio. And then, you know, less regret, it was more when they lost the San Antonio like he got tired. You don't thank God. ESPN Gundy for going like this whole, you got tired, and that's why you lost thing. This is the part where accessed information has made us worse. And whenever you tweet out anything about a team losing immediately. The the fan base goes up back to back. And it's like, oh, I didn't realize no one's ever wanna back toback before. Thank you for pointing that out. And whenever any of these guys lose now or they get hurt. It has to be because of all the stuff they're doing. If you watch hard and off the ball. He's not don't worry about his pace. Man. Don't worry about a shot attempts. Don't worry about the burden of this offense because he is finding ways to nap on the other end, and he has his whole career and you continue to do. So and Mark Jackson will come on and say that it's all over rate and all these different things. Just do yourself a favor. Watch him for five minutes off the ball. He'll be fine. He shouldn't be tired. And you know what? I should get killed for putting Anthony Davis. Second. I really should the bucks of the one seed. I'm gonna change it back. I got to put them. You're right. I gonna put him third. I had Yana second. I change it because Dave is usage rate. But you know, what usage rate shouldn't Trump being the tenth seed in the west or excuse me. Tend to be sweet the twelve seed. So I just did that midstream kind of the whole way. It's like the chiefs paths for me this week. I don't know what the hell do respect that though. Like, you know, you aknowledging, you're wrong. And you change them roll. I don't stick to your opinion. Yet. Don't always be married everything, you know, like Kellerman Brady, I to think Brady will get old. I too am. Amazed by this. You're right. Well, yeah. But don't don't go on TV the Monday after he absolutely lights it up, and I was wrong. Seven one in playoff games. The one. I got wrong was the one I should never get wrong because I should not pick against the pats. Even though I've done it twice. Maybe three times the play offs. I was right with that. Ravens. Romp at home. I was wrong with this chargers. One pick them against Denver in one of the losses that was broken up by the Seattle SuperBowl. And I picked against them one of the other ones. And I think I wanted to pick Denver both and I didn't. And I got I got one riot got one wrong. But yeah, Kelly comes on Monday, and you just. Go. Oh, so the throws roping. Okay. Like, you're never like that's what I don't get about some of those TV stuff that you can't ever. You can't ever say. Hey, I swear to God if cowherds my guy, but he's a Brady LeBron guy. And if if Brady broke into his house and stole a bunch of stuff. Cowher would come on the radio the next day. Like, you know, what I can't really blame Tom, and we're going to recycle the most of that stuff. Anyway. You know, what we're talking about this today because wills like that too. Well, he's doing this are cast like what do I need to do to step it up to the next level to like have team? Start tweeting about me. That's how bad my takes are. And I was like, I don't know. Do you wanna be in that do you wanna be getting new, but you kind of want to? I mean, look it's a better career path. I know, but then everybody everybody's only giving you attention because they think your clown. That's not actually that's the thing. I never I could never do. It could never do it. I mean, if I'm going to get some wrong roasted, that's fine. But I couldn't ever imagine. Trying to think the hardest was ever had was flacco after the Super Bowl on Monday. And Scott love flacco for whatever reason. And he's like, can you admit you're wrong. And I'm like, yeah. I I guess I'm wrong. I didn't think I was wrong. But I didn't know what I didn't know what to do. So we'll is openly rooting for this. No, he, you know, he's just like how do I get the chiefs had like a cow. Cowherd game of thrones thing they tweeted out today. And we'll like how do I get like what do I have to do to get there? And it's like, you know, you gotta do. And you know, obviously, the patriots the whole Kellerman. I take video and we're talking about whether or not that's good or bad right for your, obviously, you're getting all this attention. That's good. But I don't, but my point wouldn't want it. I've never won. People know who you are. But it's only because they think you're super wrong all the time. But look at Cowher la- cowherd in. I talked about the Sixers that whole year. Like he saw my segment where I was like is this team going to be good young teams have never played together always bad defensively. And then everybody has been the playoffs. And then they went all those games. Now there were five hundred and I could have done the well, they got Ersan Ilyasova Belen Elian that's why they went on this run and they did going to run to because the teams at the end of the regular season were were mailing it in like they want all of those late fool's gold games. But my point was always my point in being the wrong point. Like, I said they were gonna stink and there were three seat. So like, ultimately, I'm more wrong than them. Right. Even though there's a little bit. So I couldn't ever go on and be like, hey, well, they Sovan belly. So what I said was still accurate. No, they were they were five hundred then it'd being better than apply against the heat. And those guys are terrible against good teams at least last year and the Celtics playoff series where they just didn't execute. Well, the end of the regular and deregulation was something to carry over the regular season. If you watch them a lot. It's still bothers me. Me now at the Sixers. But if you look at the numbers, they're better, they're better than your is telling you that they're officiency late games has been a lot better. At least the last time. I looked it was like ten days ago. And I was looking at that stuff. And you know, what's funny is I kind of gave into it and cowherd kept playing it up and guess the Sixers sent cowherd jersey. In in cowherd leg. Ben becomes playful thing. That's good for business. It's good for cowherd business. And I'm like going. Yeah. I was wrong and being real sensible about it. And that wasn't good for business. No. There were no recieve Sixers jersey. Yeah. Well, I was with will. Because he, you know, obviously, the cowherd Baker Mayfield thing. Everybody knows about it and will has been on Baker side for a lot of this. And all will got was a follow from Baker and a DM that he never answered. He got a follow from Baker. Yes. So he's been supporting Baker Baker follow them will DM and Baker never responded. Coward. Because he's been the anti Baker guy gets all this. Attention bigger goes on a show. He tweets at them all the time. And I'm like man like. Baker's just feeding beating collared what he wants. Yeah. That's the thing is countered with the Baker stuff in like some of it. I understood but some of it. I thought was it's always kinda my rule of making points. Like are you gonna make two good ones to make your point? You're gonna make two good ones in six bad ones because you have eight. Now, you think you're doing a great job with this? I guess soon as you make the third point that I think sucks to me it's value to the first two and I'm not talking about him specifically. I'm just talking about it in general. And so when he in Baker went at it like that's a win. I mean, I know we talk a lot about the business, and it sounds like me having this unresolved in sometimes it is unresolved about like how this business works. You know, and I have bigger theories on all this stuff. And I think it it kind of emanated from certain producers that worked with I take and then some of those same guys went over to FOX. And there's some real similarities where it's like you never give in and it's almost like this Fox News, and I'll say even for CNN too because they got dudes on both sides. So I'm not trying to call out one or the other where it's if you're this opinion person you're supposed to just nah. Never give in no matter what there's no gray area. It is. I am all the the meters all away want to one side on this opinion. And I will never waver for ten or fifteen years, and that's really weird because it's a lot of smart people that act that way who probably are for more malleable in life as they go through different things. So nobody nobody actually is like that. Nobody look, I'm I'm sure there are some people politically. I'm sure there's a stubborn person your family and all these different things. But I don't I'm wrong about stuff all the time. Okay. I'm talking all the back of the radio show. But when I was just there was no way out. And you're the battle the bastards here. Right. Was that what it was called games own? Yeah. The greatest number. Sometimes you have to go. You know, what I'm I'm wrong about this. And I would think the audience would like that more. But I don't think the audience likes that more. I think the audience likes the clown show. I think they like going. Oh, wow. This person was wrong on Friday, all the things they said about this person, totally wrong. I wanna see how this person reacts on Monday and television radio it's better to not give in it's less. Entertaining to go. I was wrong. Man. Brady's awesome. It's more entertaining to go despite all the the walls crumbling around me. I still right. I think you know, despite everybody bitching about it. I think you actually want you know, it's the same thing with skip for all people hate skip. I think you needed skip. I really do. I don't like them. But I think you needed him. And I think you needed him you needed a punching bag every time LeBron did some good because you going to be more entertained by him trying to spin it into some nonsensical defensive as original Pinon. That was completely wrong. Do I do too much of this analyzing the business stuff on the podcast? Lemme know hit us up at resume that ryen russillo. Seriously, hit me up and let me know because I think I do it too much. So I don't even remember how we got down this wormhole. Yeah. I think I do too much or maybe people really like it. I don't know. We're waiting on Windhorst. This is called how far in are. We right now. We're about what thirty minutes, forty minutes in that feels about right? All right. So let's do a read here. And I want you people to not fast forward through the read. I want you guys to love this read, you know, what's in this holiday season continuing to buy gifts after the holiday season. That's right. And then you know, what else is in selfishness. So if you didn't give what you wanted or maybe, you know, it's awesome. I sent a gift to somebody after the fact, and they were like, oh my God. This is amazing. What's his four? Instead, it's called Christmas ever heard of it. So do this. Why by ugly sweater for distant uncle when you can buy some awesome for yourself? Specifically be spoke. Hosts box of awesome box of awesome is my favorite way to treat myself every single month. You know, what I just grabbed was I saw this thing in a restaurant where they put those massive ice cubes in this big copper guillotine in just as perfectly round ice cube. If you're doing that when you having people over specifically, a little later that is a closer type move right there in business, and in friendships just think of all the new friends that are gonna like you when you use one of their awesome. They have these little drink kits. 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I don't think he does. And her that one. No. I know he hates windy. I know. Hey, Wedneday and greenie loves it. I didn't get to all the stuff. I said I was gonna get to which I said was going to happen. So it's almost like that worked out so MVP which changed the order their rookie of the year. Donncha coach the going Kenny Atkinson, are you watching the nets lately, I send out a tweet a couple of weeks ago. I'm a taste maker when it comes to this stuff. I'm the first national guy to Senate a Sacramento Kings tweet saying, hey, if you're not watching these guys, which probably aren't there far more competitive, which means most improved who would you go with most improved. It's it's hard this year. Actually, it's kinda easy. But it's deeper is how I should everyone's got Siachen, right? Everybody's going Siaka. It's dean FOX don't sleep on. My boy Terrence Ross though, what's up consider me napping while you, okay? There's a lot of guys herald for the clippers has been terrific. I six men this year is going to be argued strictly by the fan bases and only watch their guy 'cause they're about seven or eight really good names bring up but Deon doing it for what has been a terrible his teammate. But he healed could win the damn thing. But if you watch the kings, it's really the FOX show. Oh, so even though PASCAL Siachen is really improved even though some of his drives. I can't tell if I love the idea that he thinks he can put it on the floor and drive as much as he can even when it doesn't work because you don't want players to get in his development thing where they kind of nullify their own development where they decide early on. Okay. You know, what I'm really not good enough to handle in traffic, and I really should never drive and then it's like, wait a minute. So now, you've you've cut your game in half. Like there's a half a year game. I never have to prepare for so Siaka makes mistakes and maybe a little too confident at times. But I love that. He's doing that from somebody that didn't look like that was going to happen early on. But when he's still the fourth dude on that team most nights. Concern has been good again this year. I gotta go D because night in night out like he's the one that kinda makes them go. So it's not an icon, Jack. I'm just talking about strictly. Who's who's being asked to do the most is that fair? I I definitely get spare something wills boys. Obviously, look dodge. We're doing doing moves. He put him most improved. How we're doing this game. After game was off the air. I believe of like here, we go guys, you would trade like yes or no Luca for this guy right now who says, no. And Ben Simmons came up. Say no, you would you would you would rather have Don-Shik. Yeah. I agree. I'm gonna tell you right now Simmons around the league. It's incredible. When I talked to different teams were just BS in how how often people are kind of off of him. Not saying, you know, you wouldn't want him. But I think you'd be shocked by some of the teams that would say, you know, what we're good. We actually wouldn't trade you this guy for him which seems impossible year ago. He's messed up, man. He's a hell of a talent. But. It's so crazy how that works to the next LeBron. And now it's like not not wanting to do them. I was even surprised by by some of the people that were so down on him. That were just like, you know, what I get it. I get all the things I'm supposed to like about him. But are you serious? Like, I'd love to know what he and his brother work on and the shooting drills not shooting. So what are we got there? Hey, I gotta who says no for you can use this on the Wilkin show on Friday as. Friday's probably gonna be decent enough though. It was gonna play Windhorst coming here. We'll ask Wendy this one. It'll be the first Wendy question. We ask. Before I do that real quick Zion thing Trevor Lawrence deal, I love how the people that have hated the football world because the lack of safety have now decided they want high school guys play in the NFL. They want Trevor Lawrence to go in you hate the NCAA so much. You hate football so much that you want the destroyed. But now you want to play a game that you've deemed unsafe this whole time.

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Week 13 Recap: T-Shirt Fiasco, Mighty Duck, and Super Bowl Preview?

The ThomaHawk Show

1:06:56 hr | 11 months ago

Week 13 Recap: T-Shirt Fiasco, Mighty Duck, and Super Bowl Preview?

"Coming up on today's show Thanksgiving is over but was still watching. Football and eating are waiting desert Tomahawk stakes haughey Turkey for breakfast and the browns lost to quarterback named duck. No wonder I gained eighteen pounds this week. Super Bowl predictions t shirt gate and Andy Dalton own redemption. Baby all this and much much more coming up another Emmy Award winning episode Tomahawk Show. This is Jeff location parking. Her is Gin Pittsburgh. Duck my ass. Let's curls no laws two guys cody from Willoughby and the browns the steelers but Girlfriend over here. She healers plan. So what do you think about the gave Jerry from youngstown and I think emily cursed the brown jinx. Then I call last week. The browns are undefeated since I called in to apologize. Thomas locked my action over here crazy Gabba or hero. Very very good point. He ended on there. I love the Big Lebowski reference. Yes Zero Danny. Welcome to the Tomahawk. Show everybody I'm your Kumble Co host. Andrew Hawkins joined as always by my guy brother partner in crime. Joseph Thomas the first Joe. How're you doing today? Man Don't reference the Brown around either. I know I'm not. I'm going to say I'm doing great and I'm coming off of an epoch Thanksgiving weekend how gain and celebration. I weighed in at two sixty after one. Bright before before the dinner Before thanksgiving dinner and after I weighed out at two. Who Seventy two to seventy nine eleven or twelve pounds? I gained during Thanksgiving meal not to be outdone then. We went this weekend to the farm arm with some friends and family and gained another seven so out to seventy eight right now my knees hurting a lot. Yes breaking news. Joe Thomas. Thomas is halfway to being a back at the left tackle. The Cleveland browns exciting news for everyone listening especially after it was what happened this weekend. It was not exciting news for my knee and like man my knees hurting a lot. I wonder what I wave. We just got home. I stepped on the skit on my good. God I've I gained back half of the way in retirement to you. Gay Twenty pounds in three days three and a half days. This is pathetic so anyway I think I'm on a hunger strike until Christmas. Okay so I can lose it by then. That sounds good well. My thanksgiving was awesome. Went Back to Ohio was in Columbus I had a good time with the family. Everyone flew in all the kids played. My kids cried when they had to leave. Because they're like they're we miss our family. So I'm the bad dad who drags his kids across the country to the West Coast. Goes where they know nobody but yeah besides that it was awesome. Oh if you want to interact with us on social media at Tomahawk show on Reddit. Twitter instagram a facebook group. Is Tom a flock. Hit Our voicemail lineup. Drop us a message at four four zero six to eight one three seven six check us out on uninterrupted youtube page. Okay do job all our episodes there as well. Lee was five stars on Apple. PODCAST wherever you listen any other promo type things that I can fit into this one minute bite. I forgot to go back to Thanksgiving things okay. She like hot off. The presses of Thanksgiving do you know Thanksgiving was chosen to be a Thursday. And I don't know the answer answer. I'm just sort of posing this as a question. I don't our researchers are getting on it right now this is. It's really important for me to ask because I feel like it's the only holiday that I can remember that celebrated on a Thursday but you kinda just go for it for four days like Christmas. You kinda do Christmas Eve and Christmas Day and then by the next stay you're kind of over it and you can kind of move on with your regular scheduled. Life but Thanksgiving is such a trap for somebody that doesn't WanNa game twenty five pounds pounds in four days because you go Thursday Friday. You gotTa have Thanksgiving leftovers and then that weekend is like well. We're still kind in a celebrating Thanksgiving so I'll get back in the Diet on Monday And then on Monday just feel horrible and you've ruined yourself and you you've partied like it's nineteen ninety nine for four days and I would like to maybe put a petition out there to start holding Thanksgiving on like at least a Friday. They give us one less day of gluttony so that we don't totally ruin ourselves I'm okay with it for they stretch. I feel good about. I felt good. What about eating a full dinner for breakfast Friday morning Saturday afternoon Saturday night I was doing leftovers up until I left Ohio? which was yesterday afternoon? Actually so okay. I love leftovers but the very last thing you do with leftovers I do you know what it is throwing out no. No you'd never throw food homes. That's how you put on twenty thousand three days guys. Yeah no what you do is. Is You chop up the leftover meat and you saw it in a pan and turn it into a TACO. That's what I did with the Toronto tonight. Fattest thing I've ever heard in my life. It was so delicious. The honest about that. Yeah you can be honest them and I was not gonNA eat much for dinner tonight so good but at least I didn't have dessert and unlike the last three nights where it was like French pie it was Apple Pie. It was Pumpkin Pie and then it was all like the little nut goodie bars that like the family everybody has to bring in their one little fancy desert and then it was the ice cream and it was just a disaster who awesome. You GotTa Love Fried Mystery Tacos for Thanksgiving. That was good all right so I think thanks good enough Thanksgiving talk. We have a lot to be thankful here at the Tomahawk Show in the Thomas in Hawkins households individually But it's time for Doug Jack the Come on all right all right doc. Shake the Cleveland. Browns took l. to the Pittsburgh steelers. They felt a five and seven. Final score was twenty two thirteen they lost to a I a grown man named duck Lot To unpack package. Oh did you watch the entire game. I did unfortunately and it started like many browns games where they just marched right down the field they're zing in the ball all over the place they're distributing it. Nick Chubb Kareem Hunt running the football like boosts Jarvis Landry getting involved with fabulous catches. And you like man. They're gonNA smoke these poor steelers because the steelers are not a good football team. I'M GONNA just go ahead and put that on record. They've won. What seven Outta last eight or something like that So how can you say. They're not a good football team. They've won sixty a grown man quarterback by the name of duct true. They have valid continue. Okay what they do well as they played good defense but any team should be able to score enough points. It's because their offense should not be able to score any points. They don't have enough offense to be able to win against good. NFL quality teams. James and I thought the browns were good team but they didn't play on Sunday. Obviously but after the first drive I was. I was thinking that they were going to roll began. They looked really good and defense was actually plane. Pretty good even without miles But then in the second quarter it was like the light switch went out on the browns and it went on on the steelers because all of a sudden the steelers started playing a little bit better defense Baker Stop completing passes the run game. Wasn't there quite as much although they did. Go Away from it a little bit And then all of a sudden the duck stir was tossing it down the field completing some bigger passes. Zero worth name recorded a little bit like like as duck not the worst name for a quarterback. So I'm a big duck hunter a so. I kind of like secretly like that name but it it really does not strike fear into any. That'd be like me be the wide out in my last name B. Drops these and Andrew. drowsy like it's not a good name for what I'm doing as it's a profession but I'm sorry it's ironic. It's ironic especially. Since he won twenty one two hundred yards. I can say he outplayed. Baker Baker didn't have two hundred ED's passing. He had an interception in a touchdown and he lost a fumble on a sack so irony is owned by. Mr Hodges. How about that yeah I mean? They got outplayed in also. They got outcoached. That was prevalent. Because you just talked about how the Brown started started hot early and even if you listen to some of the steelers players at halftime or not at halftime after the game talking about halftime they said Tomlin came in and basically started drawing up the defense on board because the browns came out and did some. They didn't expect they didn't prepare for so they said like high school football. He took out a board. He drew up a whole new defense as a way to play them in the second half and given it worked because like you said to browse offense was nowhere to be found after that all of a sudden codgers historian it up just literally haymakers up to James Washington who had an outstanding game. I'm four targets for catches for I think one hundred and eleven yards and a touchdown. Yeah I mean that was the disheartening. Part is because again it was one of those games that the browns should have one. You know if they just stayed the course and to cap it off we had to see Joe Haden interception to seal the game and we talked about it how much it pisses us off to see. Joe Haden Lina steelers uniform but sucks. What do you think about the hand injury for Baker? Because that was one of the storylines was okay. Baker hurt his hand on how he passed on the field old and he wasn't the same after that but it's not. It wasn't stark. Yeah because his his slide had kind of started a little bit before that in the second quarter But clearly it seemed like the hand was maybe affecting some of the throws because they didn't come out the same way they were at the beginning of the game. So yeah that's that's definitely something they're going to have to monitor going forward But it wasn't like he was unable to throw good balls because he was thrown tight spirals still in the second half right it just it was like maybe that was. His hand was on his head in his mind where it was affecting his decision making and where he was supposed to go with the football and maybe a little a little bit of the accuracy because he didn't quite have the confidence because maybe it just didn't feel good when he was trying to grip the football and and rip it. I'm not exactly sure totally. Just made all that up. But he made some good throws even if you look down to the throws hit Harrison late in the game and even the one where Harris pops out with knee instagram. Those are great throws by Baker. Mayfield my thing. Is this man and injury. Injury is a part of football and I'm not minimizing it but if you're out there you're good to go you know what I mean. You're still subject to the same grades as everybody else because you've made the decision businesses. I'm good enough to play. And if you at seventy percent is still the best option for the browns to win that in my mind you you have to figure out a way to to make that the case. Don't you can't say just 'cause you had bad plays that that's the reason why you know like that's professional football. Baker knows that I mean. He said his press conference. That didn't matter. It won't matter going forward. I gotta come out and play and we gotta do better I've got a question for you Joe. Maybe maybe I'll tell you that for you as I decide to answer myself. The Freddie Kitchens t shirt fiasco had any effect on the game. I don't think it had an effect on the game because I think those type of bulletin board things. If they happened earlier in the week you might see a little impact on preparation from your opponent. I think that's where you can make. A tangible difference in the outcome of the game is how the preparation of the week goes because by and large I would say ninety nine point nine percent of NFL players. Wake up on Sunday morning ready to play a football game and what is said in the media or what is a t shirt is worn. That comes out on Saturday or Sunday. You're not going to all of a sudden. Just decide had to play harder on a Sunday doesn't happen but if there is some type of bulletin board material that happens on a Monday or Tuesday I can see a little bit more focus and concentration concentration and preparation happening during the week and the T shirt fiasco will call it with the kitchens He he wore to a movie on Friday and so really. It didn't come out until kind of Saturday so the steelers probably wouldn't have known about until Saturday or maybe even Sunday and at that point the hey is in. The Barn aren't as far as the preparation goes in. This game had already been circled on their calendar from two weeks ago after the Malay with the the Tomahawk for myles Garrett John Mason Rudolph Face Tomahawk heard round the world. Yes something were plenty motivated. So I don't think the t shirt had any impact on the outcome of the game but what it did do did they do. which I don't think is correct English? If you say did do but Didgeridoo is it makes your players have have to answer questions about it in the media. Then you have to answer questions about in the media and it just becomes something of a distraction and what is the extraction it takes your mind and your thoughts off of what are important things that you should be worrying about like. What's my job? How do I do it and how can I help my team win? And so A for me. I think Freddie Wart as a calculated risk and it was calculated as a risk because if they win anywheres it he's a hero so People love him for it. Right Brash cocky. The same things that Cleveland fans love about Baker. Mayfield right when he wins. He's Brash cocky. He's not afraid to say it. He's not afraid to say what he thinks. But those are also the same things that get picked apart when you lose and so I think Freddie was was feeling pretty confident that his team is going to win so fine. Wear the shirt. It's only going to have my players understand that I got back. I know we're going to win the game so then and I'm GonNa be sort of a hero to the Cleveland fans a little bit because they feel the same way. I feel my players are going to love and respect me for making that bold statement and so I think it was a calculator. What was your take on it? Yeah I thought it was a calculated risk as well and I I but I also thought it was stupid. I'm going to be honest. I'm not a shock jock. I don't really like the sky is falling down kind of person but I think that was a dumb move by the head coach to be real. Likes to put that T. Shirt on before the game and even you know the decision was dumb to wear it. Okay I get some FEM Mirada for me to show support a decision to where it outside of. Your House was not smart. The decision to take a picture on it was really stupid. The worst part about it. It's the double down on it. After you took the out of Pittsburgh and your team your franchise had to issue a statement about it so that already says it's bubbled up way bigger than what you thought it would to where your team felt the need to give a statement about the shirt that you're wearing on a Saturday and take pictures off of campus down and say I would do it again that that put the icing on the cake for me because it doesn't matter whether you really think it motivates the steelers because I don't think it motivated the steelers already enough motivation like you said but it was a risk on his part so of course if they win the game he's going to be a hero and if they lose trust and believe the steelers couldn't wait to get into the locker room say how motivated because now they're gonNA double that and that's exactly what they did. They said my coach would never do that. Of course motivated. Of course it pissed us off and if nothing else it gave Mike Tomlin another opportunity opportunity to give a speech as you know the hardest thing to do for head. Coach is to find new shit. Talk about common. Who's been in that position for a long time especially especially Mike Tomlin who has been there forever? You know how many speeches he gives with Mike Shit. We've heard this story a million times. Finally thank you Freddie Kitchens for giving me something new to talk about the Saturday before a Cleveland browns game probably my what seventeenth twentieth career. CLEVELAND BROWNS game that I've said the the same shtick over and over again. Thank you Freddy. Forgive me something new. It was dumb I really was and as a head coach around team. Or you're saying they need to mitigate distractions. We need to bring that down. They need to keep everything in house and just focus on football when you're doing it you're acting like a player and not like the actual coach again. It was a risk ask. It was not a risk worth taking. It was unnecessary risk. And now you're going to where that on your face for not just now till the next season or whatever happens ends next because guess what. There's a Pittsburgh t shirt company that had a set of t shirts teed up that said Pittsburgh finished it and I can guarantee you made that person person probably upwards of thirty thousand dollars today and Pittsburgh steelers ordering that t shirt because you decided to wear it on Saturday. It's like Iran's have you. You know the Super Bowl where both teams get super bowl. Champion shirts printed off and then wins. Pays it out when they win. Exactly that was like the steelers. They couldn't wait. Could I Betcha Judy Art because I think they were the ones that made the shirt right I think so. Yeah I guarantee they had a shirt that said in Cleveland finished it ready and waiting a few of those already descended they already had it an address to Freddie Kitchens Seventy six Lou Groza boulevard near ready to pop that baby in the mail Sunday night it was going overnight Sunday Sunday night delivered it but I will say two things I think in hindsight which we have the benefit of here I think Freddie would have been better off holding the shirt and wearing it after the game if you win. Where'd you press conference right back? Where do the Mike Tomlin where he's wearing the jacket? That's unzipped with that shirt. Underneath where you can just see a little bit of it and walk up to the podium and start answering your questions in you know. Somebody's GONNA go. Hey coach kitchens. What what anywhere anywhere under that Jacket and Oh this whole thing and he pulls it off and boom right there would have been beautiful right and I think it would have had a similar effect rubbing it in their their wounds were just been fantastic? Of course they didn't win so it didn't matter so you know the League was trying to you. Know get as far away from that as possible right they. They didn't want this game to be about that for a lot of reasons probably so much so that I guarantee their suspension the suspension length played into the fact okay. Let's not have these certain players apart of this game the next time because you want to get this out of the way so of course you wearing the t shirt only creates more conversation creates more. Buzz creates it's more articles. Create more topics creates more questions. I just didn't think it was smart and I hate that. We're going this long after the game because I don't think it had that much of effect on the game I do think team was coached. which is a part of that in the second half there clearly have the better talent? Can I say that Jarvis Landry is my favorite wide receiver in the National Football Football League. Like I'm talking. You can sit. I like I like Hopkins from Hopkins is good. Mike Tomlin Great. There's a lot of great players but I'm just talking about the way Jarvis Landry placement. I'm ten he is a man after my own heart. I mean just fire passion energy. He is the leader of the Cleveland. Browns Baker Mayfield is getting their Baker. Mayfield is going to be a good quarterback I think he has all the skills I think. Jarvis Landry is the leader of the Cleveland Browns team. And I don't think it's close. I think I think he is the nuts and bolts that holds a lot together so I love the way he played but outside of him. I had questions about a lot of people today so I got a Nick Chubb Right now's May MVP. And again. If I had a name like a captain Mr Cleveland Brown Jarvis Take you back to Matt Patricia. Remember after they won the Super Bowl he wore the Roger. Goodell clown shirt. Yep that's what Freddie Shoulda done with it. I think that would have been a a better approach than trying to wear it on on a Friday night before the game. I mean the game game is too important man. The game is way too important. The would have been the first week for the browns nineteen eighty-eight. You're clearly better team. You're the the favorite favorite in the game. You only have things to lose. All you can do is motivate an opponent. Who is not as good as you? Why would you do that? Why would you wake a sleeping giant? Why would you make someone play better than what they actually are? Even if the motivation is fake. Why would you give them that? You're you don't need to motivate your team with that. They're already better your favorite. You're the better football team just play. Let everyone come to the come together and just battled it out out and may the best man win. Why would you give extra motivation especially on a week? Where a lot of teams lost that you needed to lose in the playoff? We had the colts. Lose the raiders. Laws off yet. The chargers lost. I think they're totally out of it. Now is there anyone else that I missed that we needed to lose. That was in that F. C. Playoff Race Pittsburgh Pittsburgh we needed to lose. Yeah Pittsburgh we would have been a good one but we would have just been in such touch good position coming out of this game Had we been able to get that victory and now they're going to have to fight scratch and claw and just pray and hope that if they can win their last four and up nine and seven and still get in which is looking mighty unlikely at this point. Yeah I mean the the last interception from Baker A bother me a little bit so it looked to me like Jarvis bent yet. His rowden and Baker didn't see that was was it because Baker didn't read the coverage properly opera early and he has thinking the whole was going to be a little bit more to the outside. Yet Jarvis read it differently like post safety versus split safety absolutely break it down for me genius. Wow graduate receiver. You might be ready to play some tied in with your understanding of of coverages and whatnot. And I haven't seen all twenty two years. I've really really been working hard because I have been approached about maybe doing color for a game later in the year. And I'm going to have to talk about boring receiver stuff a little bit. I mean I know. There's somebody out there that probably cares about quarterback throwing the ball to a receivers. I've been I've been working hard but go ahead catering all your audience for sure no. Yeah that's that's essentially what it looked like. And that's why bother me because when you go back to the Denver game where you had Odell clearly beat him. Off the line of scrimmage and Baker I I pick that way then goes away and it almost seemed like he predetermined that he was going to drive. Which I'm not mad about God just said Jarvis is my favorite receiver but in the version? Today when they're playing Pittsburgh it looked like Joe Haden rolls back into a deep half. Look so basically joe heading goes from the corner and rolls to a deep deep safety and just like you talked about that means. There's a safety on the other side if he's that far outside the Hash which means that is to safety. Look now I think they had a whole player as well. Who Take that away? 'cause they probably knew that they were going to go all go. which is the name of that place? So Jarvis's decision is there's two safeties which isn't technically the safeties right. If Joe goes back to the Deepak that means he's the too high look at too high. He bends to the middle of the field as a post. And there's a one St vacancy in between those rice safeties. That are split exactly so if there's a once once a single safety look which is where the whole player was and then he came down to the middle of the field. Then Jarvis stays right along the edge of the numbers you can tell from the to take what I seen. It look like Baker predetermined that he was going to Jarvis and at the coverage will be single high and it wasn't they rolled. They tricked him but he was already locked into throwing it to Jarvis in this because this is what he expected expected this is what he assumed Jarvis Benz it turns into an interception because they're not on the same page because Jarvis played it straight up that that worried me right because is in that situation. You know I'm not a quarterback and I don't want to say we can and can't do but he predetermined something that was ended up being costly because the browns could probably go down there and score right. It's not out of it like we had the ability because we're we're more talented football team to go down there you're in the crunch time and and get a w. but yeah so. So what would you call that coverage I I guess it wouldn't be Tampa so I don't I don't know what correct coverage is maybe a two hole. I'm not sure our defenders are held. But you know that that coverage is typically done by Tampa too because that's where it originated in the the buccaneers but the middle the middle linebacker. which is basically run deep to cover the middle of the field Two outside linebackers get curl flat area area which is kind of outside the tight ends in about ten yards and then just two safeties deep in the news you know cover to underneath for the two corners so with a safety when you do any role to it. It's essentially ATTAPATTU. It's just not gotten to the same way so I I don't know if to Hawaii but yeah yeah I mean they knew he had to go deep they whatever it was they got the perfect coverage that play because they figured probably they're going all go and here's the perfect stop it. Oh it worked. Yeah Point Point for the steelers they they had The browns confused views on that. Play one more thing I want to say about the browns game that impressed me and it was outside at the scores. Have you ever seen somebody. Throw a hail. Mary seventy yards or wasn't Ayla Mary. Have you ever seen somebody throw a pass in an NFL. Game seventy yards beg. Your kid went on the play here to sand dino get APPs that wasn't it was crazy because you watch odell not play. He's running and the defense is running with him and they turn and they look and they both realize that. Oh my God what are yards further than we can possibly imagine and so they try to like put on the the burners a little bit after that and they're both short. I mean it was an incredible. I I knew Bakker had a good arm. But that's like Carson Wentz to Shawn Watson I don't even know who's got the best arm in the league maybe Baker Mayfield now being that was. That's amazing I wish he would do that twice. He wants a quarter even if he doesn't complete literally just overthrow because what it does is it keeps the defense honest Jonathan Dayton safety and then like snap he this thing seventy yards. It'll open everything up underneath the longest. Your line holds up. The safety is on the next play. Looked like they were playing from Johnstown Johnstown in Greg labs defense they were seventy five yards deep. Because they didn't want anybody run behind him. All right tell me the rest of the schedule. bengals twice cardinals and the Ravens. How do we finish up? I'm very very frightened. All of a sudden funny I always make fun of people that are drastically overly the emotional after one win or one loss but after what I saw out of the bengals today with Andy Dalton back. I'm not thinking those are easy. Wins anymore so that scares me and the cardinals are always one of those teams because they play such a wonky offense in collar. Mary's hot and cold that a They could smoke you or you could crush them like yeah. I feel. There's almost no inbetween with those guys right now. And then of course the ravens are playing as if if they're the best team in football right now because they're the best team in football it was interesting The Ravens got a bunch of zone coverage today from the forty niners nine and it was it was kind of bad weather but that was going to be their strategy. The niners we're going to go in. They were going to play a lot zone coverage on defense and they were going to keep all eyes on Lamar Jackson. They didn't want to play any man coverage where you're gonNA turn your back because the best strategies you can't have one guy on them and try to tackle them right. You just need all your your skinny guy is trying to slowly corral trap them in the net corral them right and Lamar okay. I'll just show you how good I am as a passer. And he was just like Ping Ping Ping Ping and he threw the ball really well again. Fourteen of twenty three Only one hundred and five yards but it didn't matter because they were big yards and he had one hundred and one on the ground and another touchdown. Yeah so what do you get. Give me a prediction. Final Four Games are you get you get one chance to change your prediction during two. Now you're saying to turn into they'll finish seven nine seven and nine you went from you from ten and six then you went to inflicted with the disease that one one point one game I totally all faith and confidence in my boys. I'm sticking with my at eight. I think that's going to be the final record. Even pick the steelers today because I already picked it and I'm like you know what I'm not going to change what I already said. And now they're going to think I'm a genius at the NFL Network all right so last question question. Do you think Freddie is one and done no because I think that the team expected a lot of growing pains being that he is such a new to the NFL coach and obviously being a first time head coach. He's never done. Hardly any of this stuff and and you hire a person to in that position you hire him for his qualities outside of experience. So you're hiring him for his relationship with his players for his integrity his trust I His accountability those are all the things that you're trying to hire him for and I don't think those things have changed. I just think that the learning curve has been steeper deeper and it's taken longer than the management of the browns have expected but for me. I still think that they believe in him. And they've seen enough progress from where they were week. One to where they are right now specifically looking at the penalties have not been an issue as of late. The turnovers have been much better. They've improved in the red zone a little bit That was a little bit of an issue today as well but overall I think they're seeing positive growth now. They're not where they want to be. But I think they've seen enough off from Freddie to say okay. We're going to give you one more year for sure to be able to make sure and see if we can find even more growth and we think think that if you can continue to grow the way you have especially from. I'd say you know weeks six through where we are right now that you can have a really good full playoff football team anybody under next year. The I don't know man you think one and done. I'm not ready to make a decision yet but if I was leaning one way it might feel like a one and done only because of the things we talked about all right like it's like yes. He has to learn those things in. I don't know often just a couple of months. is going to teach him those things and I feel like they have such a finite window with the amount of talent they have and you know you might say it's a couple of years I don't I don't know if ob Jay and Jarvis work forever you know like I don't. I don't think this is a five year thing for your thing. Maybe I don't even think it's a three year to be honest because their two biggest stars are there. They're too good to be sharing the rock with each other. You know what I mean is as good a friends. They are as great of a match up they are you know they're just too good good and they're making a ton of money. So yeah it'll be tough man so we'll see I'm not. I'm not making that decision yet. I would say one thing that makes me think they're going to give give him another year for sure is that the has looms fired Robertson ski after one season in after talking with them since they did that you know in the years after after they made it seem as though they felt that may have been a mistake to get rid of him after one year because one year is not enough. Time to really see what you have in a coach yet but to your point that could be a strong argument for one and done is that look. You've got Baker Mayfield on a rookie contract. You've got a lot of money and receiver and they're young and they're talented. If you've got nick on a rookie contract you've got Kareem Hunt on a cheap contract because of the situation and he came in on you've got miles on a rookie contract and you have got to strike. All the iron is hot right now and the irons hot right now. Because in three or four years you're going to be shelling out an average load of money to all these guys and you. You probably won't be able to keep all of them now. You hope that they're significantly better players as they continue to grow and mature and get better as football players as most of us do throughout careers. But I think once you give Baker Mayfield that probably two hundred and fifty million dollar contract you know. It's going to be a six seven year. Deal to fifty. Miles is going to get a twenty three twenty four twenty five million a year deal. Nick Chabot get up fifteen sixteen million a year the deal. You probably won't be able to keep Kareem Hunt. He's probably GonNa end up going somewhere else. How long you keep Odell and Jarvis because Odell thought they might have to Redo his deal this year right I'm not including Dinsdale ward out. And then he got greedy Williams and Denzel. And you gotTa Pay Joe Shelbert. I mean if you're going to win the time ms now it's going to be really tough to keep this team together for the long term because there is a lot of stars on cheap contracts yet. The only way that I think actually ah I think you're right about the one and done thing and not that I think Freddie should be fired but this is how football works like when things. Don't go the way you plan. Someone has to take the rap so you either GonNa put on the players. We know it's not the players because we talked about this being the most talented roster. The browser had you call. You can't put on the front office. Because he accumulated the browns roster you could to put it on the Front Office for Hiring Afraid Kitchens. It's unfortunately someone has to be the scapegoat and at right now. More arrows are pointing to Freddie Kitchens ends in any other direction. I think the only way they do move on if they have somebody that they know establish head coach. They feel like can capitalize now like McCarthy or something right if if he comes comes out into that I want to coach the Cleveland. Browns have my stab. I'm ready to go. I can turn Baker Mayfield and Aaron Rodgers. Then I think they'll they'll consider it but again hawk. I want to ask you about something. And that I said in his press conference after the game and he was talking about his t shirt. He was talking about. You know wearing the jacket and I was daughters. Want him to wear it And he wrote or he said I took a picture. It was as simple as that. A t-shirt didn't cause us to give up forty yard passes. We were ready to play. That's the only thing that people need to be concerned about. We were ready ready to play. So was that a shot at his players and are the browns players going to see that as our coach was kind of trying to throw US under the bus to save is bought about the t shirt. Here's here's the thing. When you make the declaration that your team was ready to play? And that's all that matters right. Basically you're you're saying what I did my job correct. There's only one way to take that either someone else and you lost the game right. You say that after a loss if they won then you're right. We were ready to play. Yeah you are because he won the game. You didn't win and you were the better football team. You're the more talented football team. And you didn't win so if your team was ready to play the more talented onto football team and you're essentially saying I did my job. You're basically saying your players didn't do their job or you got outcoached right so you got them ready to play and they didn't win and they're the better team you're meeting you got outcoached or you're trying to say your players didn't hold up in their into the bargain either. Either one of those things aren't good to say in a press conference after a loss when they're actually talking about something completely different right talking about the t shirt and you can't say that it didn't matter because because you don't know you don't know what motivated the other team that's not your declaration to make you can't say that it had no bearing on how it affected them because that's not you you you know what I'm saying. That's that's my only issue with it and again to. I don't even have a problem with that because it was a calculated risk but I would rather go on the press conference to say like. Oh Oh you know what if I could go back. I wouldn't award because again it. You know my team had to make a statement about my players. Had to answer questions about it and it wasn't worth that it was a gift and I wasn't thinking twice about it. I was trying you know Cleveland fans get excited about that. I appreciate my fans but to be honest in hindsight I probably you know I would have waited a week to where it would have been incredible credible answer would it applauded him would say you know what we completely understand trying to get motivation Outta your fan base. Trying to get motivation out of your team. But that wasn't the case and again. That's that's at the at as my whole problem with t shirt gate. The thing that stood out to me about that is that he said the t shirt didn't give up forty yard passes which to your point jobs directly actually calling out the defense right and to. Mary's Randall didn't dress for this game. Coach's decision people are still wondering. Why would almost seem like it was hanging on a very specific problem? which is that a lot of trouble covering covering if there was a coach's decision was is that an came on? I don't know I don't know I. I don't even know why they're Marianne didn't play. I don't know if it's a you know we know he's a fiery Larry Dude. I don't know if he got into it with the coaches got into it with the week. Not a great week of practice. Whatever but even though he didn't even travel to begin? Maybe it was A. Hey you know. We're trying to keep this whole whole thing cordial. And we don't want this to be a Cincinnati Pittsburgh situation part two in the and the steelers players even said that after the game. We don't want that. We don't want that. and they felt like Freddie. The kitchen was acknowledging that fire by wearing the t shirt. I don't know if that's the reason why ran. Didn't travel because it was like okay. We don't think he is going to be able to keep it together in the way that we want to in this game. Okay but regardless again it was a l.. Were five and seven now and as Joe said no easy way down the pipe type amateur detail take food. That's good therapy. And we we got that out of our system and then they play that good trip wrath feeling good again smooth producer John. Gaza love Thanksgiving football. Three thanksgiving game this year were very entertaining burns. Lions was exciting towards the end but the bills dominated the cowboys and the saints one pretty comfortably over Atlanta and my trip and or the football Thanksgiving a little disappointing. I think you're tripping I only because I don't think they were that bad gains. I mean they were bad matchups chips already bad match if they weren't like which one of these games going into Thanksgiving will you excited for Joe and you see the one. I was most excited for was bills. Cowboys always The bills have been my sleeper team. All season I said that they were going to be the number. One wildcard at the beginning of the season. So I've liked them. I've always kind of like Josh Allen. I'm not exactly sure why Probably because he's from Wyoming and I like Wyoming never been there basically Wisconsin but continue and I'm intrigued with the Jason Garrett stuff because it looks like the cowboys are GonNa Win Their Division. They're going to go to the playoffs. Then they're going to fire their which which is interesting to me? But I've always like watching the cowboys on Thanksgiving since I was a kid. Just like the lions but the lines have been so bad for so long that it's just more entertaining to watch bill cowboy so I was excited about the game and turn out to be a pooper. we knew the saints. We're going to beat the Falcons. Because the Falcons have just been awful all year and the first game you don't have that Stafford effort and so it was like what Jeff Driscoll Verse Mitch Trubisky Nuts. We just couldn't play with David. Blow you cook. Sorry well I was way off Another guy I don't care about now. I remember David Blouses first. NFL Start Right. He lost lost but either way the first game Bears Lions Saints Falcons and then the game you liked. You're excited about was abroad so it was disappointing football. I mean the cowboys. It was still a gap. I like the cowboys game because the bills. No one expected them to go down there and and get the W. so the underdog one boom automatic. Good when the underdog wins handily. You Watch any time the cowboys lose everyone. WHO's not a cowboys? Fans loves it right so to me. Automatic good game. Josh Allen had a coming out party his first nationally televised game he played amazing. Dual threat quarterback up one. Ah along with the Lions bears wasn't excited for that game because it was Mr Bisky bursts David Blau as you talked about. It was actually a pretty good game. Came down to it. Bears got the the. W The last one was the saints. And the Falcons we knew. The Falcons Stink. The Falcons beat the saints a couple of weeks ago it was GONNA be revenge game. They were GONNA kill him but actually if you watch to the end it it got interesting. Because the Falcons recovered almost three onside kicks wasn't to give themselves a chance if Matt Ryan you you know wasn't didn't have the agility statue. It could get away from a pass rush. They would have had a chance to go down and score and tie the game name and regulate so they actually ended up being instant games as far as well. Yeah I wasn't excited going into. They actually exceeded my expectation. Are Well I'll give you that so your bar for excitement statement was just way lower than me but I will say that finished with saints. Falcons was unbelievable. Because I'm sitting around with some of my neighbors and my my brother in law and my sister and and we've had quite a few seventy three calls yearly tapped an entire seventy three K.. I've got one left and so it's that point where you're just have eaten waited you too much and drink way too much. And all of a sudden the Falcons get the first odd said. Oh my God. Nobody's getting onside kicks anymore. Another one another what. What is the improbability of something? Like that is what makes it exciting. Because I had no skin in the game. What's about this game but when you're watching things that you know are really rare? You're you're you're ticker all of a sudden starts beating faster and you're going. Wow this is incredible alone never going to forget this ever. Nobody gets onside kicks anymore so I will say okay from from that aspect like the games were kinda boring but then they picked it up and they were somewhat exciting at the end of the day. Were watchable the young coup the kicker for the Atlanta Falcons. I would've we've got next John. The Ravens beat the forty niners twenty to seventeen. The difference in the game was a forty nine yard. Justin Tucker Field Goal and both teams are now ten and two. It's been said before but I believe it more than ever am I tripping or is the forty niners ravens the super bowl preview this year. Well I believe your trip in because whenever somebody says this is going to be the super bowl preview it never is although it's pretty popular right now to think that it could be. I will say that. I don't think the niners are going to make it. There's just not enough consistency from Jimmy Garoppolo right now. He plays really good Games and then he has kind of stinker games and they've got a really good run game consistently and they've got that great defense. But but you WANNA make a good run in the playoffs. You have got to have good consistent quarterback play. I just haven't seen enough of it from Garoppolo and I'm just going to still hang my hat on this Ravens Hate Bandwagon. I'm not ready to get on it. I know I call them the best team in football at the beginning of this podcast but I just feel that somebody in the playoffs for no reason reason at all is going to knock him off and all of a sudden. We're going to go. Oh I didn't even know that was a weakness of their scene and like it's going to be the Patriots or somebody like that where it's just just one of those match up things that we always see in the playoffs. And so I'M GONNA go out and say that I don't think either of these two teams are going to make the super bowl this year. Well Joe as usual you are wrong. as hell of this was absolutely a super bowl preview and it lived up to the billing man they all we heard all week is how this might be the game of the year. And I'm surprised job you haven't if you didn't get a chance to watch this game right or if you've only seen highlights or if you only seen bits and pieces I urge you to go watch the replay get to get the free regain past the NFL network gives you and go watch it. 'cause it was incredible and it was kind of game. It was pouring down rain the entire time. It was a monsoon one hundred percent percent chance of precipitation in Baltimore so it was so much run game but not only that they threw it a little bit. Not just the Ravens. The forty niners did to they were going for it on fourth downs each team team multiple times. I'm telling you it came down literally to the last play of the game juggernaut. Matchup the best thing that you look for in a defense when you have a good defenses. The news with two top defenses in the League is halftime adjustments. So if you're a really good defense and you have a good coordinator at halftime. Your defense should get better in the second. Can half in the second half there was only six points scored including the game winning field goal because both of these deepen defenses made adjustments and they got better better as the game went on so I definitely think this wasn't super bowl preview. Because they're the two best teams in the League. And the to Beth defenses and both quarterbacks career records Lamar Jackson fifteen three as a starter Jimmy Garoppolo eighteen and three as the starter. You can say what you want about. Uh either one of them and everyone does what they don't have what they can't do. Not Capable of fact of the matter is more times than not more than most people in the league. They've done what they had. They do to get ws super bowl preview yard to here. First you're going with the old school super bowl wins championships. Approach where it's again fence and the run game dude. It was. I'm telling you man I hate running games. I hate offensive line play. I hate shitty weather and even me sitting there watching it. I was like dude. This is the Yoda's this is living up to the hype and it's so rare for these games to ever actually do occupy. Andy Dalton led lead Cincinnati. Let's go to their first win this season after being benched earlier this year. Plus he passed Anderson for most career. You're passing touchdowns in franchise history trip or is this the Andy Dalton Redemption Redemption Game. This was absolutely the Andy Dalton Redemption Game. He gets the record. He gets benched when he shouldn't have. I get it like you guys want. Joe Borough Bengals fans I know or you want chase young whatever it looks like but anti Doan came out and he put the team in a position to win in the biggest indicator for me was watching everyone around Andy Dalton up there play because they feel like they actually have a chance to win when Andy Dalton is in at quarterback that was the reason he's back. QB Not because they felt like all we gotta make a change. Not because they feel like Ryan Finley. No it was because the players in the locker room were voicing that they were like you know what you're you can't be trying to win if you're not playing Andy Dalton he's clearly. The best quarterback on our team is clearly the best option. So I'm proud of him. They gave they gave frigging Zack. Taylor Taylor a gatorade bath. You don't deserve gatorade bath. No He. They gave him Andy Dawn's gatorade centers and that should have been Andy Dalton's gatorade bad. Zack Taylor. You're the reason awesome. You probably would've had an extra wind somewhere in there. It doesn't matter you still might pick I unless the giants keep doing what they're doing. Sorry John This just makes me mad though I'm mad. That antidote was benched because he's obviously the quarterback that gives them the best chance to win. There's no future with Ryan Finley. So why would you ever even play him. Unless you're trying to lose and and you're trying to tank for Joe Borough or take for two before. He exploded his hip. So I I just it just makes me so mad because Andy Dalton has been such a great professionals national such a great quarterback for the bengals for a really long time and you know bengals fans will argue. Well he was never great because he's has never won a super bowl and he's never want us a playoff game but you know what. He was a really good quarterback for a long time for them and he still is a good quarterback and he gives your team a chance to win and for him to get benched and not be out. There was disgusting. It hurt me listening to him. Have to give that press conference I think it was even as earthy after he got benched. Yup and then well at least he gets an opportunity to come back out and show that he. He was clearly a a quarterback out there that can still play football and play at a high level and for his sake I would like to see him on one of these other teams next year. That has has an opportunity to make the playoffs. Like great if he made and got traded to the bears or absolutely the in a one of these teams. Where you're like you've got a pretty good roster and a guy like antidote could really take them to the next level because he could get just steady good quarterback play mistakes Get some good performance when he needs it throw the ball down the field when they have to and all of a sudden. Wouldn't it be great if you saw any dawn. When a couple playoff games comes in like a bears uniform or and and I I really I know he's your guy I don't really know him all that well but I just have always? I've always liked his approach. Professional approach always have lots of respect for professional approach. Even though I've been a Lamar Jackson hater I just really love watching him and I love his approach to the game very professional right Joe I respected. I'm I'm GONNA make Lamar. Jackson highlight that. It's GonNa make you a believer. I'M NOT GONNA. I'm not gonNA tease what it is yet. But it's coming. Don't worry it's right now. My Lamar Jackson take is the Freddie. Kitchen stick Nick Noam wrong with it. Because I don't want to be somebody that goes back and changes his mind. Oh Man I love it man professional it. It's like like nowadays. That is a lost art form antidote. And I get it. He's not the sexy quarterback. I get it you feel like others just an level he can never get to whatever. I understand. Understand what you're saying. But when he got the job back it was ample opportunity for Andy Dalton to say like. I'm back did you miss me. I thought so I told you so. I should never got my job taking. I've been the best quarterback you guys don't appreciate what I've done here right and we can see. There's a lot of quarterback a lot of players in this league. That would have done exactly actually that. Not Andy Andy says you know what. I'm just going to go out there and try to get us our first W with the year. That's all I'm focused on. You know things happen. This is professional football. I understand get it. He took it. He did everything graciously throughout the entire process. And you're right. I do hope he goes to a place where they have an incredible defense. They have a lot of weapons and they have players around him. And it's a situation. Relation that bodes well for him and the out the bengals go make the right decisions. I hope and he don't go through a Great Depression and I would love to see Andy winsome playoff games towards this half career Allah Ryan Tannehill more on that later. What we next John Run pass option? Run Pass option. Let's do it or tacit bronze. I Anthony. I'm depressed again here. Joe Yes so here we are here on run pass option producer. John Tees up a topic me and Joe decide whether we want to run with it and talk about it or pass on it because ultimately mainly John. You don't care we don't care all right what do I fitz. Magic and trick plays Lee Dolphins Past Eagles Joe runner to pass. Uh I'M GONNA run it. I just can't understand the dolphins right. Now why would you put Ryan fits magic out there because you know that this guy. It has the potential to go off like he has a few times a season and then he went off today he just is either going to give you five interceptions. Who's going to give you five touchdowns? John's and lead your team valiantly victory and he just consistently does that and so the dolphins are going to be such a shitty spot at the end of the season. They're going going to be like the seventh pick in the draft. So they're not gonna be able to get the quarterback they want unless they have the trade up and they're not going to have done anything to develop anybody else during the season last season. Don't play fits magic. Listen if biggest. I'm going to run this because this isn't even about fits magic we know if it's magic. He's he's going to give you great. He's going to give you terrible but this is about the eagles what the hell with the Eagles doing well. Hey Hardy on south beach. The Eagles are one of the most talented Ross in the league coming into the season go look at their overall on Madden. This is a lot of people super bowl pick myself included and they went down there and got walked by the dolphins fits magic was throwing it up the receivers religious jumping over top of the DB for the eagles the entire game. They were up twenty eight fourteen in the second half and the Eagles ended up winning. The dolphins ended up winning by two scores. That embarrassing Philadelphia past the sticks. You're done all right. What are we next Kansas Kansas City? Now eight and four after wire-to-wire win over Oakland Awkward to pass it. I'm going to pass it. Chiefs are good mahomes. Good we get did Joe. I'M GONNA run this so after Patrick mahomes dislocated his kneecap all. NFL FANS ALL NFL media. Everybody just forgot about him. They just wrote him off like up Kansas City. They don't have a chance anymore. People forgot this dude was only out two weeks leaks and all of a sudden. Kansas City's on a nice little roll their defenses plan better mahomes a scrambling and running in for touchdowns looking like he never got got hurt. You Mark my words Kansas City chiefs. They're going to be the AFC representative and they're gonNA quietly sneak in there. They play a lot better when they don't the hype which they started the season with no hype. Now they're gonNA sail through the play offs. And how okay. That's why you don't have the ravens playing in it. All right. I got you. Washington Shington winds at Carolina picks up second straight victory. Joe Run into panic I'm GonNa Pass that I'm GonNa pass that For a lot of reasons but put a pin in next week. I'll say is world is people that said Christian McCaffrey is GonNa be the NFL MVP. We're who well. This is literally as one game where he didn't go off does what I'm saying. Perfect perfect perfect timing take titans rumble two seven and five in big division win over colts. Hukou I'm going to run it. Ryan Tannehill Aka. Andy Dalton South is back he makes a change leaves. The dolphins goes to the titans. My man man is five and one as the starter. He has the titans looking like a brand new team. He leads the League in. QBR since he's come back maybe not the league. I think he does now after this week. I think he does if not his top three behind. You're just making that stat up to staff that I was mixing up after a four day of NFL Network television but listen to the fact remains Ryan. Tannehill has been balling show. That man some love today was a close game right when the game was on the line he delivered a straight straight dime to feel this game. He's going to get paid in Tennessee. Titans quarterback of the next three or four years. That's a bad taste bad. Take but he is not he is not going to get paid first of all second of all your over your time. So I'M GONNA kill you but I'm GonNa give you a papal reprieve because I do cut you off a little bit in the middle so drink. If you're listening at Home Joey GonNa Pass our Abaza foles benched in jags lost buccaneers. Here's Joe rented a pass it. I'M GONNA run this one last run. Why why oh? Why would the Jacksonville? Jaguars I was thinking that Nick foles after breaking his collarbone in sitting on the bench for what six weeks seven eight weeks that he was just going to be able to come in magically and resurrect the franchise Chai's and be able to just come in and play great football. Of course he wasn't going to be able to. Why would you bench Gardner Midge you for Nick Foles who we all love? Nick foles in the playoffs but nick foles in the regular season is not magic. Nick foles. Let's that's the playoff version of him. So if you're GONNA bench him government you for Nick foles. You deserve to lose so I'm sorry Jacksonville Jaguars but I hope you lose the rest of the games this season. So I'M GONNA run this too and I'm just going to piggyback and say everything literally Gioja said what the Hell would you think in Jacksonville like come on man like why did you. Did you think that was it not to mention. You won't even give the guy a a good defense. You barely ever even hand the ball off to your all everything running back. Of course he's not going to do that and his his collarbone is still broke. He's the Nick foles. We always see in the regular season. And I I know you want us to watch the superbowl and BP but you should have never left mentioned what was meant you. Five and three. was that what his record was. That's a pretty good record for a rookie quarterback right Donovan especially considering the talented. He's got her on. Come on man. Like what are you doing. And then Jacksonville or James James is black. Ryan Fitzpatrick He. He's going to be lights out. Would Week afford is actually like pick a lane bro. Either suck or be great. You're making it tough on the franchise so I have Gardner Mitchell foreign for thirteen touchdowns four picks okay. Four forty came in. Did he come in for one of those does this is just as starter pro football reference. All right. That was one game but still four four. Not Bad I mean those came in these Owen two. Oh and three three Jacksonville's a four and eight team. Yeah the man is beating the average All right we gotta run route around. I'm curious bonus round for you guys are the bills and titans are two wild card teams assuming that the Texans when the division is. AFC playoff picture set. Yes pretty much. That's it that'll be the wild card of the titans and the bills and the giants are GonNa pick first overall because you guys suck man. I'd love to see it. Yeah I mean you're gonNA get chased young. Tell tell them to buy some Blue Shit because he's hearing was going to win too and you guys will lose the dolphins in secure cure that top spot in New York from your lips to God's ears. Here's a run pass option for John Will The New York giants fire Pat Shurmur after so this is not I hope so I asked you earlier in the year. Joe About what you think. Petro Iowa's never sold on this guy I watched in. Cleveland is clock management. I thought was terrible. He's been a disaster asked. What the giants he had a way? Worse record than Ben mcadoo in in a lot of for a lot of what people said about Ben mcadoo going eleven and five. He still got fired. I think Pat Hatch. Humor is probably the worst head coach. My lifetime wow the worst. Wow all right. Let's let's let's I'm I'm I'm playing John's research road out. I'm looking at Pat Shurmur head. Coaching record. Can we get accurate. I don't not spell his last name either. Do the people in the Cleveland. Even Brown's media guide which is a funny story so his first year as a coach. I think it was the preseason and they actually spelled his name incorrectly in the media guide died in the preseason for one of the Games on never forget we are in the locker room and we're all like giggling like little schools looking and we're all You know because everybody gets the media guide in their locker before the game and seven was kind of laughing misspell his name and he brought the PR director into his coach's coach's locker. With which if you've never been in the Brown's locker room it's a big rectangle and then in the far corner on one side is the head coach's office office locker area but when he closes the door. You can still Kinda here when you're in the low. The players locker rooms specially if they're yelling and he brought up yard director in there and he absolutely undressed him you know how. FAQ Pairs on the head coach of this team. And you can't spell my my last name right. Oh man he would after his ass. That poor guy walked out of there like somebody had beaten all of his dogs. Oh my God it was so sad it makes me like a more. Here's here's here's Pat. Shurmur head coaching record in two thousand eleven four twelve and two thousand twelve. He was five and eleven he was the interim head. Coach in Philly. WanNa know undefeated season but the banner of two thousand eight hundred eighty five and eleven and this year. He's too in ten yeah something that tells me seventeen. Forty four yeah it's Something tells me he's going to get the axe he's had enough nerve rides at this. I think You're not good at this particular game daddy dimes now Danny loose change fire data. I'm beside myself. I mean and also it was snowing blizzard in New New York and in the first half they threw the ball twenty three times. Daddy and you have saquon Barkley. I mean I just that part I don't get all right. That was the bonus. Run Pass option. We're John decided to run up on Pat Shurmur and say pass on your service for the foreseeable future all right before we UNWRAP. We're GONNA talk are catchphrase game. We're going to pick a catchphrase Joe. Hit hit the different ways in one way to suffer Turkey when our our Tomahawk cooking cooking segment this week. If you missed it go check it out on twitter. Drop the audio. Chris Layer perfection. That's why there there may be many ways to skin a cat. But you only got one way to finish Thomas Steak and that is the bring the flame thrower I don't. I don't know if that's a qualifier because you've got a switch it up. He switched well. It didn't stop the Turkey that was that was a punch line that was to bring it home and he did not do do it. I actually said it to on total access After source the audio but I not calling with me I I actually did and say it but they cut it out of the audio because a little behind the scenes we'll peel back the curtain for those fans at home the cooking. Show that me and Hawk did. I had to record on my my phone by myself. You heard my kids screaming in the background. I was trying to record it in the middle of dinner time by myself which was very challenging and they spent probably thirty five thousand dollars on video team to go to hawk. They rented out an entire restaurant in the New York L. A. Area. I don't know which one it was. They got from. NFL now her coups hilarious boy. Your segment was so funny. Oh man that had me laughing but I guess that's what you get when you spend thirty five thousand dollars versus me when I just recorded on my phone and I send them all the raw footage and they cut out my only one way to stuff stuff. A Turkey tagline. That's right I was a little sad about it but I think it's still hammered home the point of The amazing catch rates. The segment was funny. I I think we should pitch a show with chef. Boothia me you and chef Bhutia degrade. Oh my gosh he was funny. He's hilarious man funny. Because I did my best. Joe You the rookie here all right so we have to pick a new catchphrase right. What are the do we have some early? Submissions can. I started off with mission that I've seen on twitter that I was a big fan of from start. You can put lipstick on a pig but eventually the rain is GonNa Fall Zero sits. I'll get it at all little make sense anymore exactly exactly pretty ridiculous and I can't wait to. Joe Has to use that on television. What are the other options? Even Santa Claus doesn't want those cookies that would say somebody's looking one month ahead because he's got twenty twenty vision. Oh early favorite. Just like that leapfrog slicker than Snot. Not on a door now. That one grosses me nasty all over them like a cheap suit. We've heard that one. Yup I like this one. One kid wets the bed. Everyone has to wear diapers. That's yeah these feel like browns up like a slippery pig on roller skates okay. I've never been shot before but that doesn't make me bulletproof. It looks funny. Another trouser submission. If you flip your trousers inside out you can wear them twice without washing. That's not even like a pack awesome quality sound advice. What happens when you wear your jeans inside out wearing a tee shirt inside out where somebody's like? Oh man fashion statement. You wear your jeans out. Somebody's GONNA seriously see like call. The police need to get your guns taken away from. You finally got too much mustard not enough hot dog and it's not about the miles. It's about the smiles. We're going to pick three finalists. Vote on those of what are your. What are your finalist guys? All right do you have any that you automatically get to the championship. Get One yeah. So the one I'm going to take to the championship is somebody's looking one month ahead. Because he's got twenty twenty vision. Good good great one ally. I'm GONNA go with. Oh man this is. These are some good ones man this week so far. I think Y- okay. I'm not going to go Santa Claus because we're going to save that for seriousness season for my pushed through to the finals. I'M GONNA say one kid wet the bed. Everyone has to wear diapers. I like them so we've got to finals the two finalists. Posey put those on twitter or the Guy Post Malone are social love. It's Social Media Guy. Put those up there and then Tom Fly please vote. Please vote Make sure you have everybody's vote count so voting is important on the Tomahawk catchphrase not on the actual next which is also coming up in the next year. All right that does it with this episode of the Tomahawk. Show anything we missed. Jody a final thoughts. I feel like I did my final thoughts at the beginning of today's episode. I I wish Thanksgiving was not on a Thursday. I wish it was a Saturday. But it wouldn't be four days of gluttony. I wish you would have saved that for final thoughts. I'm going to rest on my earlier. Thought and just let that be my final thought Looking forward to Thanksgiving Next year I'M GONNA be celebrating on Saturday. Anybody wants to come over and after all right there you have a bit. Well since it's Andy Dolan appreciation day my guy the red rifle is gonNA take us out. Joe Hawke Yourself and.

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2019 Week 15 Preview

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2019 Week 15 Preview

"Round with the NFL podcast. Thanks adult baby. Yoda is a DA. Welcome to another another edition of the around the NFL podcast presented by the United States Corps. My name is Dan had this coming to you Meru Bill Heroes. Markson sounds Chris. Wesseling Greg Groza. What is up boys? Hey Dan like these little variations year thrown in at the top. Like a jazz musician. Because you never know every time it's not about the notes you play Jazz. It's about the not. Don't play one little note on our Ledin ever heard that the headshot goldmark would AC- Dan your head shot. I know that it's incredible. Effort was put into those illustration and. I'm sure I'm going to have to do a thing. Where like they cut little scissors around here? I do think that they need to revision where they do a little bit more justice to your hair I think they smoothed it or some. I've been I don't know who they the Laura if you're watching the youtube show which begins with a graphic that they put some money into building it out and but they never said we were under the the impression that when they come up with the opening graphic for this video show that there would be a meeting in the off season where they pitch at. Hey guys do you like this. Would you like any changes. Does this work for for you. Color Palette logo the images we choose. There was none of that. A shadowy league figure called us into a conference room one day June and said. Oh here's does your new opening and we're like okay and that was the meaning and meanwhile changes knee are needed to really give it. The Papa deserves. Oh Oh so. You're saying you're not happy with web. Never been happy with it. I think it needs to be addressed in the off season. ooh Okay I've been on record about this. We gotta get Greg. Do you have a beard in that thing thing we got there we go get greg bearded. I'm getting better living by the minute as so you've got to get the updated. I could use a square joe and maybe less Pale. We go. Welcome to the Thursday edition of the show and This is our week fifteen preview. How about that week? Fifteen and and a lot a lot to get to. We have a Thursday night game between the jets and Ravens that will be part of a mini pod released later tonight Thursday. They I believe it will be a success in west joint it will. What's cooking at Westminster? Well quiches moms in town so I think she might be watching the game you know she might have have plans and they like she heard Marquis coming and I think she canceled it plants. She's watched football games with mark. Before last time Mama was in town. She actually kind of went off on me a little bit. She's I you totally bring a boys around here and then I have my two sons who she sees the pictures. She loves them. She was mad at me that I had not actually fulfilled a promise. She loves chiltern keys. KISHA GETS GETS IT ON. Its little what did she sound like asking. You bring those boys around here. You tell me. Brigham Reagan and I said. I'm sorry I'm sorry wisely. Don't make promises about my children. They're they're they're unpredictable so I don't think she yelled but I don't recall that either because we were there it was but she got right up in my face and said you told me bring those boys and I was like I I i. This is gonNA sound bad but I've met anyone who's not scared of my mom who never took a backseat to anyone immediately with deferential to retain vacation what a woman uses her naming Roda Roda. What a woman? When wes was on the ropes she she was there everyday with you? She took care of trade on it too. Oh she prayed with me. God Fed me she yes she took care of me. Save that for the theology. PODCASTS WE That's what I told her at night when she tried to pry. Let's just save this. This for theologist. Okay so got Ronan Town Road Da Roda town. We got a lot of games was to get to and we do a draft style and with the first overall pick is Mark Sasso. And it's important to get this out there. That mark as we noted is is heading up the coast on Saturday to cover the final home. Game in Oakland Raiders. History Because of that he won't be here on Sunday to do the recap show with US however you will be calling in from black holes swimming you survive and CD but yes but it it. It creates some oddities for me to have the number one pick in essentially a league that I won't be involved in. We're taking that. Raiders went off the board. The ball hit back game a little bit later in the show. But that's off the board so they're twelve picks that you have and best of luck to you because yes you you. You're looking out for others right now. Not Picking for yourself. Well I'm picking for Knicks shook and so I already know because the way his Sunday's organized I don't WanNa put him into some sort of work Tornado ta so what I'm offering is because there's probably a ton of great games on the slate. Let's be real. I'm offering to move down a few slots if someone would open for business. I'm open for business but I have a different type of thing. I'm not looking to jump up to number one next week when it's week seventeen at a bunch of teams are packing it up and send people I R I if if there is a Snafu Kafue Scenarios Because Week Sixteen weeks sixteen where I am tagged with between six sixteen or seventeen. You maybe don't have to do anything you maybe have. No you know. Give back in this trade. If there's a scenario where I get snaked into four games versus three the person accepts this trade would take my fourth game. It's less work is what I'm seeking to do so someone can jump right in a number one and maybe you don't even get into this situation. I'll take it all right wes. US careful so we'll pick where what pick assiette you now. Pick Third Mark and West is picking first overall get very clean trade all right. I'm taking the Houston Texans at the Tennessee. Titans I think it's the best game of the week. It is like a trade view US probably the most meaningful game of the week. It's my titans which I have now claiming again again after throwing them into the garbage at about week five What about your four year long infatuation Marcus Mariota that and about two years ago when okay just getting there was some talk in the off season going into this season as well no the talk Adam Humphreys signing I believe meanwhile while he likes to talk about an ex not not? Currently the talk was the titans still believed in Morio and Tannahill was simply for depth. But you know that plan went awry when Mario could not navigate the pocket or looked a lot like Mason Rudolph navigating the pocket. So now we have Ryan Tannehill in here as I said Tuesday. He has a chance to become the first quarterback in history to complete seventy percent of his passes at over ten adjusted yards per attempt. And he he is averaging the most yards per dropped back in the NFL this year so to me. The favorite for Comeback Player of the year honors a no brainer to sign to a new contract act or franchise tag. You try to get a quarterback playing at this high of a level for this long of a stretch of games And he's got a lot of big games ago. I mean we've got two games here ear against the Texans in the last three weeks if the titans can sweep that they win the division if they sweep that the Texans are very likely to win the division if they split because the Texans not only have the division tie-break record ahead of the Texans of they have the same record. They're going to win the division but Tennessee also is the host New Orleans next week. That's a that's a tricky one so it might take the titans sweeping the Texans to win the division and the way they're playing. Yeah I mean I think they got a chance because I don't know which Texans Defense I could totally see it because I you know watching both of these teams over the past couple of weeks. It's not I don't care what happened and a couple of months ago. Tell me the important area where Houston is a better team right now and more consistent than the titans. I struggle to find it and I know you're going to go quarterback potentially and I believe in to Shawn Watson still at but Ryan Tannehill. You could not ask him to do LE- anything same trap that we're on the same page on with Sunday. which was like that comment is kind of easy to make today but this time last week that was not maybe a comment that was so easy to make after they spanked? Thank pay like being in a trap. So we'll see how that goes up. Who knows which version of the tech? I'm just saying that tight. The titans though have been pretty consistent in my issue with on all of us is that they will sweep back and forth there six. NFL exactly. It's the Texans right now that I feel week to week and they have willful or back so that that seems to be kind kind of like the practice today that seems to be there Jenga on offense to some degree. But I don't know what you can count on even from Shawn Watson and what's what's around him we. We had some bad games dot count that man out there waited devi away which factor which places more emphasis on recent games than early season games. They are thirtieth in defense. This is not a good the defense right. That's that's the thing I would be worried about. They cooked up a good game plan against the Patriots but for the most part the titans defense is more talented more consistent. The titans offense has so many big plays it's a little unsustainable I mean Tanna hills has hit and so many of his long. I mean they've been great right throws AJ Brown and his receivers are making plays forum. That you can't count on that every week I would expect to shoot out here. I don't really totally trust the titans defense and I do think does Shawn Watson in a big time. Spot is going to play well and that this thing could be in the thirties and could be a perfect. I pick because it'll be a lot of entertainment. Oh Yeah Grass Westfield Nashville let me what it's week fifteen and this is the best game on the board and let's since we're here let's now like look back a look back in time You on the draft day of like. Oh this this time last year the greatest number one overall selection the old Zeus or nailed it last week with the game of the year and just You know what a moment was For me to to have all those great games to choose from it number one and over on how easy it is the Mel drafted Patrick Ewing Talk Saints forty-nine Everyone WanNa take in that game I went with my gut and I. It was paid off and now west. This is think you made the comment downstairs Greg. This is like the Eric Fisher draft of game draft luck. DOC and you're taking Eric Fisher. Fourth fits best game. Last week would would be better than this game. Untrue you a lot of the AFC south with your all your heart. Don't I can't stand the Jaguars I like the Titan. So I'm looking forward to this when it's a good pick he's been on this site that you might lock them up here in the big spot. I was thinking about it. No I thought about it but you can't. I mean Dan knows this as well. Just when you count the Texans out they just Shawn Watson Andy the Andrea. I have too much respect for Popkin. They're dangerous team to lock against absolutely warlock for too stressful. Exactly all right. The next pick goes to Greg Rosenthal bull all right. I'm GONNA take a late game. I'm taking ram cowboys suck. That would have been my first pick. And it's one of those games. Where yeah this isn't doesn't get into side? I don't think who wins Super Bowl. But it's a perfect week. Fifteen game where the culminates things build throughout the season and the pressure and the misery going on in Dallas right now has been building throughout the season whereas the rams have shown how you can flip a switch how you can change your identity entity and then you can get a perfect match up in the perfect spot to me. Play in this cowboys. Defense has been so bad against. The run is perfect for a rams team. That's found their identity identity by running the ball last week. Johnny Munt played thirty snaps more than Cooper Cup. Josh Reynolds played twenty plus more snaps than Brandin in cooks. Because he's better at blocking they're just going full out. We're going to be a running team with defense. I don't know if they do it every week but it makes a lot of sense to do it this week because this cowboys defense defense has been laying down like dogs well. They're using Josh Reynolds on sweeps and jet sweeps and there they got some other creative Moxie back I feel like they were just boring and dull to watch. It has a lot to do with. I think the offensive line. There's a bit of an uptick. They're they're not a total raging disaster in their defense has given up opponents of score between in six and ten points on offense against the rams outside of the Raven. I don't ribbons game seven seven seven past opponents. Their first team defense outside of the Baltimore game has given up three touchdown since the jalen Ramsey trade in a lot of that is schedule and I don't think they'll do that in this game but when their offense is is is in rhythm. Jared Goff is making some good in rhythm throws especially outside the pocket. I think their offense can keep up and their defense or at least Limit Dallas. Who all all season? They're kind of the team that that analytics can't figure out because they shouldn't be as bad as they are and yet you just don't have any faces. Yeah this is not a team down Tom. I wouldn't lock up against or for them either. Because do are they in other ams too I liked the rams and this was a complete freefall right now or they have been laid down last week. That happened so do they lay down pretty bad on on Thanksgiving too. I think that was more bad luck. That was randomness that that happened in that stretch there they absolutely laid down last week. And I don't know if you can predict those things. Did they have they given up on Jason Garrett for good great enjoying Dan's book making Kim Project over the outrageous at their basic defence is basic and they count on them to execute. It's one of those defense where they don't try to confuse anyone under counting on people to fly to the ball and be remember how fast they were a year ago they really late in vander ash and they counted them to be fundamentally sound and not give a big place and that's everything they're doing. They've missed a ton of tackles they give up plays. PF has the cowboys as the overall if you look at these stack the teams from top to bottom across all metrics the fourth best team in the NFL based on their talent. And how they're progressing. And I do think that you are at a point. That's different than before with Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett we're Jerry Jones is the rare owner the hazard a weekly radio show or eavesdropping verbal firebombs raising questions about your coach in that. It's the locker room. You'll lose their main firebomb right. If it's it's not if it's the players that are thinking so much changes coming. We gotta start playing for jobs. We're GONNA have a new coach here bad situation. find the rams to be kind of fascinating right now because I think everyone wrote them off as a lost cause this year and they had bottomed out of course in that primetime loss to Lamar Jackson and the Ravens You guys wanted a forum. Yes I think I think a lot of people thought they just were broken and something needed to be addressed in the off season but the stat and good stat. NFL Media Research. Tyler higby Robert Robert Woods. Todd Gurley go over. One hundred yards from scrimmage back to back weeks has not happened where a tree of teammates did that since the great two thousand troika of Randy Moss Chris. Carter and Jake Reed no the Robertson underrated Robertson Robertson's. Oh I mean that. Is this when you have. I like that. You're offenses humming this team. Peaking at the exact right time after a slow start to the season. This is when you want a peak may December feels nice time to start Pity and they've been in big games and they've won big games. I mean that's the thing they're the most winningest team in the NFC. Over the last three years since since Sean mcvay arrived and the cowboys have Jonas this this year. Not to be trusted and we love them against cranking that PR machine. I was GONNA say if they do end up making the playoffs. There should be a little bit of bike. We kinda miss this one. Because they still they still had the players. They had the best defensive player on the planet. They had skill position players and they had a great head coach. Great DC that maybe just got to let let it breathe some problem though saying that where we were a month and a half ago they were at boring defunct weeks ago. Right and who would it. Guess which is not my point. What is this? That's obvious but wrong. With abundant year it out and they seem to figure out who would've guessed a month ago that golf would be the quarterback in this matchup playing with confidence decisiveness. Nisa Upper Tempo Yeah I let's see Adak I mean let's see Cooper deck I do I do believe in this offense and I think they can play much better that you gotta had. This is a game you gotta see it. Golf did a couple bad turnovers against the seahawks that happens against Seattle but it wasn't total pristine mark. You're up all right so it's a spot again. I'm I'M G M in filling picking for our friend. Nick shook and I know that he's going to be your mcalinden. Last as he didn't he did not know it. I'm the what's his name the iceberg or whatever they call them Zik laser show on the glacier. That's about as effective as a strategy or a penny counter counter basically asked to evaluate talent. I don't know why just made that comparison. That's not helping me at all but I'm going to go browns at cardinals because it's a late game the home home team. It is a great big but shook shook as a browns dude and they are clinging to those last gasp the life before the game where they got thrown off the cliff and you you know and act to ends and you say goodbye that character and the rest move on. I mean that's where the browns are. It is interesting that football outsiders points out that the browns have played played as an offense the hardest lineup of defenses in the entire league this season. And it's certainly showed in ways that I was watching that and you should check this Out whether you like it or not or either like we're not Bella Chicken Nick Sabin the HBO documentary where they sit down and talk for about an hour and a half. It's it's just insane to watch but some one of my favorite parts of it are in there's old Hark back clips in current clips Belichick huddling with young players. And basically and Greg you especially would totally fetish is this because it's your world. I'm liking for a game situations shouting at them. Saying like there is a minute. Fifty eight left. You know. We've got to timeouts. They they do this and I'm thinking I know the answer to any of these questions. I think you might greg. But he's teaching. I've been saving this one for the week when the kids and the wife them to bed. And you just go ahead Greg Time. It struck me watching that that there are probably a vast majority of coaches that cannot get that done and cannot communicate Munich. Eight that two players or the rest of their coaching staff and to West Point needs someone up in their ear to do that and it made it struck me. That Freddy killed his. As in the most first year thing about Adam is situational football and the team seemingly losing its way for big chunks of time in a row now this is meant to be this easy part of their schedule and they have one games but as we mentioned on the recap show last year everyone seems to be tinged with some element of darkness. Where you can't really enjoy the season? If they won this game you begin to look at the overall experience and say do we keep this coach or do we not because you clip kings varies lost six in a row with cardinals team that somewhat falling off a cliff but no one's talking about him the same way. There's all this heat and pressure around. Kitchens and expectations were totally explication. Often have been unfair. I agree three. The Kingsbury is offense has improved dramatically whereas kitchens is an offensive guy. And that's clearly been the problem with the browns. Yeah I mean I feel like you have the NFL leading rusher in Niqab who was about to be going on he's leading the NFL rushing in rushing yards. Wow Yup and he is about to become the first brown running round running back in the history of the Cleveland browns and they have one very awesome running back to open several season his career with back to back thousand yard years. He's been Iraq for them week. After a week I would just say that. That's what they have. If I'm playing the cardinals you just don't get too tricky here. Don't get to do what you do well against a really bad pass defense so so. This is one where Yup Baker Mayfield should be able to cook. I mean it's a great match up of young quarterbacks for for a relatively bad game I mean seeing cuyler Murray and Baker Mayfield field. Go at it. Who are former teammate? Seen Baker Mayfield and cliff Kingsbury. Go at it. Who Baker used to hate Kingsbury because he didn't play him and Baker at the transfer when they were at Texas Tech? There's there's heat here it's fun little side so you're with. Maybe expectations should have been so high. If you put in a better head coach coach. This team is contending for playoff spot. I think I I'm not happy with the Code Rosman Great. It's been a week to week thing but I do think it was one of these teams where you're adding all these pieces in three or four months and it might be that. It's all about Baker though. He was hired because Baker and Baker is that a bad season visit plenty of teams that add pieces in the offseason completely rework their roster and flourish right but to be fair. Yeah this is an organization. It's barely won any games over the last decade and if they get to eight. That's not the word it's really just. Baker Baker hasn't played that well. I saw the stat about uncatchable catchable. Balls over ten yards in it was it was pointing out. How Kyle and basically has been the worst in the league with his receivers? But who was thirtieth out of thirty two wide receivers who qualified Colorado del Beckham in terms of uncatchable balls. Deep throws the Odell Beckham. They had no chance at and that's that's a reflection of Baker Mayfield. Well that connection nearly made back toback spectacular plays last week and there was another great Baker. Mayfield throw to the sideline that Jarvis Landry nearly came down with two. I think bakers numbers could have been so much which better last week and that interception should have been maybe a fumble but not an intercept Jarvis. Landry has my respect for him just watching him we tweak has doubled and tripled. I mean he has been the dude good for them. Beckham's going to be gone. I think the off-season that report from Yahoo Charles Robinson was not not a sign that he's there in the. I think anything could happen. It surprises me in the in the in the Wall Street. And you're worried about the guy is he. Okay like in a mental head space point that he's very down about the direction his career that he never you know he was hoping to go somewhere else. Cleveland was not his choice not his destination and in this era era. Where we're seeing a team player after player? These marquee guys kind of decide whether they want to stick around or not to me. Everything's pointing to him making noise the way Jamal Adams is GonNa make me if they were winning none of this would be no and the flip side was there was there were like flowery narratives that were based in truth that Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry Lifelong Lifelong friends. They had waited their whole career for this. In lieu is Beckham. Saint come get me to people. I don't we we don't know exactly what words are being exchanged but that was the disturbing report but landry. The entry came out today strongly instead. No one knows anything about Odell Beckham. He's in a most welcome. Yeah Guy Team did around. And I wouldn't build a team around a star wide receiver to begin with. But that's not what they did. They had a quarterback to all right. I'm up I will. This is good. I like this one. Because it's it's two teams that I really want to see where they're at for real bears at packers Lambofield and my thoughts on this. My my initial thought is is watch out Green Bay and we talked about on Tuesday. What you people don't realize that you guys you guys know everything but other people out there that the packers despite the ten and three record despite being the second seed in the NFC just not a lot of not a lot of impressive wins and and late? The offense is cooking. We know the defense can be manipulated and taken taken for a ride in a big spot. We've seen it happen. On on several occasions this year and to West Point and on the power rankings show. I do with Matt Money Smith. You made the same point is us that while the reputation that precedes Aaron. Rogers as still being this goat guy. Then you watch him in these games and he's just holding the ball and hold on the ball and holding the ball and looking for that home run and it just doesn't materialize in the three and outs start piling up So where are the packers right. Now while they're at home and they're against the bears team that obviously has kind of salvage their season and moved it out of the embarrassment range the they've given their fans the gift of relevant December football which. I don't think anybody expected a month ago and most of all all in Greg. We talked about it last Thursday. Mitchell trubisky has his confidence back. That's the biggest. You could see it in his eyes when things are really going sideways earlier this season that he was just he was not playing with any confidence in these guys that are not elite level talents. Mark Sanchez comes to mind for me from my a Passes a jets fan a guy. That's Kinda either marginally talented or maybe a little better than average playing with confidence will help push you over the threshold but if you start getting a bad place mentally delete you look absolutely terrible. So he's gotten out of that bad zone and you see it on the field. Both in the throws he's making and also who's running the ball a little bit now and that's why. I think that this game is going to be like if I had to pick a game. That would surprise people. The bears going into Lambeau and winning would not stunned me. It really would not am. Am I crazy thinking that. So everybody's trubisky believer now. I'm not a believer and he could have easily thrown a couple picky play the giants science to the Lions and a cowboys team. That has not been impressive on defense. I think that's been a big part of it. I thought his best game was definitely on Thanksgiving. You you know he was. He was given a lot of short. Throws I give nagy credit for cooking up the types of open receivers and schemed up. Plays over the last three weeks that we we didn't really see the first half of the season which I think was a big part of their success last year. I think Nagy and trubisky are working better together. Indefinitely using trubisky's legs is a big factor. trubisky riskiest twenty-one Russia's some scheme some scrambles over the last three games and that was utterly missing before and I I think you pointed out West that when your confidence is shaking and and you you know things are just not working that the daring do is not there for trubisky and it wasn't in but he's he has shown I think more of what you thought you'd get this year but to dance point. They don't well that's been him most of the time but my my questions that are more about the green bay side of things just being able to explosively shutdown opponent. I mean I feel like Aaron Jones had almost two hundred yards against the redskins but the rest of that game raised at our friend. Ben Fennel who does a nice job with you know especially packers tape looked at Aaron Rodgers in that game. It was just like what is happening with this guy. He's not he's not pulling the trigger. I think was what then especially was getting after where he had some open. Receivers just wasn't throwing it. It's been the same thing as last year and coaches keep taking the fall for it but sometimes you have to hit the underneath routes. Just pull the trigger on those throws and yet and they're playing plane. Good bears defense not. They're not what they were a year ago but they're good they're wanting mix might be back this week. Yeah they're and they're one of six seven best defense in the league. They already held the packers. Smith is out for the year with a peck injury. which hurts that's a big loss but this this game to me is one of those questions? Impossible there's no right answer like do you trust the body of work or do you just what you've seen the last three weeks if you're only looking at the last three weeks. The bears are playing better right now in the packers have got blown now. I I trust Aaron Rodgers more than Mitchell trubisky even when Aaron Rodgers is slumping but I tend to trust the body of work overall. I've seen too much bad football out of Mitchell Culture Bisky. I haven't seen this defense be impressive. I haven't seen the running game really do anything that I believe in terms of Montgomery and their offensive line and on the road against Green Bay. I think you get the best packers performance and that's why I'm locking up the it off. But that's no good desert people think about this tight three and a half or four. I think that's the man who can walk by the mirror and look right in. There weren't really many. There are lighting in that room Some of these other games. It's like funhouse mirror and what's there and you're like well I see one on here. That's fun house okay. Well that's going to be the show there that gives even more like heat eight to the game that I've selected at the back. Lamar Jackson going thirty two overall a route and hiring you right in my mind a site in the news ragging for a lot of there's no luck at all. All that win do it. tariqa would do he would do it. That's how he operates. How about Rodney the Harrison? And this guy. I put this on the radar on a couple of weeks. Ago Starts Three and ten on the Sunday night football picks. NBC comes on the Air This past Sunday and has the audacity the audacity stones the onions to say the Israelis in call the gall to the the reason incorrectly picked. Ten of thirteen games is because I was letting my son pick the games. I don't believe that he he said with a twinkle in his segment enough where it's like. He's making his goes. What's worse if it's a joke if it's true throwing whether whether or not you you believe it or not? He's throwing his child under the bus. I actually I I I guess. I'm taking the contrarian stance here he said at the smile on his face and it just you I know. Why are you laughing the fact that he would throw his son under a little Dick for Rodney? Harrison's that's my he's still doing it though that's my type of sense of humor the type of person and who had throw his son under the bus with fifty million people watch it into funny to me. That was funny. It was the funniest thing that happened all day. Long reason why although he had the smile is because he knew he was a villain as he was saying. I shouldn't be sharing this with twenty million people right now but I need my ego to get massaged here. I got to take this off my plate and you know what he then