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The North Pole, by Robert E. Peary, Reading 1

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"Good evening and welcome to boring books for bedtime. I hope tonight's installment provides all the boredom. Come your busy. Brain needs to quiet down and let you get some sleep for wants so I just your volume taken can nice deep breaths and off we go before we begin with tonight's reading. I'd like to give a special shattered of thanks. Thanks to a new patriots subscriber Brian hyme Brian. Thank you so much for supporting this podcast. It's much appreciated if you're interested in the exclusive perks available to subscribers including monthly episodes found nowhere else you'll find delinked the patriarch in this week's podcast description now. Let's get to tonight's reading this evening. We're reading kaput of adventure. The North Pole it's discovery in nineteen. Oh nine under the auspices of the Perry Arctic Tick Club by Robert e Perry with an introduction by Theodore Roosevelt and the forward by Gilbert Bert H GROSVENOR director and editor of the National Geographic Society Greenwood Press Publishers New York doc originally published in Nineteen Ten by Frederick a stokes company. Let's begin dedicated to my wife introduction. Some years ago I met at a dinner in Washington the the famous Norwegian Arctic Explorer Nansen himself one of the heroes of polar adventure ad he remarked to me. Perry is your best man in fact I think he is on the whole the best of the men now trying to reach the pole and there is there's a good chance that he will be the one to succeed. I cannot give the exact words but they were to the above affect and did they made a strong impression on me. I thought of them. When in the summer of Nineteen Ninety eight I as president of the United States went went aboard perished shipped bid Him Godspeed on the eve of what proved to be his final effort to reach the pole. I hear later when I was camped on the northern foothills of Mount Kenya directly under the equator I received by a native runner the news that he had succeeded and that thanks to him the discomfort of the North Pole was to go on the honor roll of those feats in which we take a peculiar pride because they have been performed by our fellow countrymen probably few outsiders realized is the well-nigh incredible toil and hardship entailed in such an achievement as Perry's and fewer still understand understand how many years of careful training and preparation before the feet can be even attempted with any chance of success Dash for the poll can be successful only if there have been many preliminary years of painstaking patient Toil Great Physical Hardy Hood and endurance an iron will and unflinching courage the power of command the thirst for adventure and a keen and far-sighted intelligence all all these must go to the makeup of the successful Arctic explorer and these and more than these have gone to the makeup of the chief of successful Arctic explorers of the man who succeeded. We're hitherto even the best and the bravest Ted Failed Commander Perry has made all dwellers in the civilised world his debtors but above all we his fellow Americans are his debtors. He has performed one of the great feats of our time he has one high honor for himself and for his country and we welcome his own story of the triumph which he won in the immense and solitudes of the wintry North Theodore Roosevelt the White Nile March Arch Twelfth Nineteen ten forward the struggle for the North Pole all began nearly one hundred years before the landing of the pilgrim fathers at Plymouth rock being inaugurated in fifteen twenty ninety seven by that King of many distinctions Henry the eighth of England in fifteen eighty eight and John Davis Rounded Cape farewell the southern end of Greenland and followed the Coast for eight hundred miles to Sanderson Persson how he discovered the Strait which bears his name and gained for Great Britain. What was then the record for the farthest this North Seventy two degrees twelve minutes appoint one thousand one hundred twenty eight miles from the geographical North Pole scores of hardy navigators British French Dutch German Scandinavian and Russian follow Davis all seeking to hugh across the Paul the much coveted short route to China and the indies the rivalry was keen and costly in lives ships and treasurer but from the time of Jonathan a for three one half centuries or until eighteen eighty two with the exception of fifteen ninety four to the sixteen o six when through William Parents the Dutch held the record Great Britain's flag was always waving nearest the top of the globe the same year that Jamestown was founded Henry Hudson in sixteen o seven also seeking the route to the indies discovered? Yon Mayan circumnavigated Spitsbergen and advanced the eye of man to eighty degrees twenty three minutes. It's most valuable of all Hudson brought back accounts of great multitudes of Wales and Walruses with the result take that for the succeeding years these new waters were thronged with fleets of whaling ships from every maritime nation the Dutch specially profited by Hudson's discovery during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. They sent no less than three a hundred ships and fifteen thousand men each summer to these Arctic fisheries and established on Spitsbergen within in the Arctic Circle. One of the most remarkable summer towns the world has ever known where stores and warehouses says and reducing stations and coup bridges and many kindred industries flourished during the fishing season with the approach of winter. All buildings were shut up and the population numbering several thousand all returned home. Hudson's record remained unequalled for one hundred sixty five years or until seventeen seventy three when J C Phipps surpassed his farthest north by twenty five miles today the most interesting fact connected with the Phipps expedition addition is that Nelson the hero of Trafalgar and of the battle of the Nile then Ladda fifteen was a member of the party thus the boldest and strongest spirits have the most adventurous and hardy profession of those days sought what employment in the contest against the frozen wilderness of the north the first half of the nineteenth century witnessed many brave ships and gallant men sent to the Arctic regions while most of these expeditions were not directed against the poll so much assent in an endeavour to find a route to the indies round North America the northwest passage and around the Asia the northeast passage many of them are intimately interwoven with the conquest of the Paul and were a necessary surrey part of its ultimate discovery England hurled expedition after expedition manned by the best talent and energy of her navy against the ice which seemingly blocked every channel to her ambitions for an Arctic route to the Orient in eighteen nineteen parry penetrated many intricate passages and overcame one half of the distance since between Greenland and Bering Sea winning a prize of five thousand pounds offered by parliament to the first navigator to pass the one hundred ten th Meridian West Greenwich. He was also the first navigator to pass directly north of the magnetic North Pole hole which he located approximately and thus the first to report the strange experience of seeing the compass needle pointing eighteen do south so great was Perry success the British government sent him out in command of two other expeditions in in search of the northwest passage in explorations and discoveries the results of these two later expeditions or or not so rich but the experience an ice work so obtained gave Perry conclusions which revolutionized all methods Athens in Arctic navigation hitherto all attempts to approach the pole had been ships in eighteen twenty seven Kevin Parry suggested the plan of Dash to the poll on foot from a base on land he obtained the assistance the government which for the fourth time sent him to the Arctic provided with well equipped ships and able officers and men he carried a number of reindeer with him to his base in Spitsbergen purposing to use these animals to drag his sledge's the scheme proved impracticable however and he was compelled to depend on the muscles of his men to haul his too heavy sledges which were in reality boats on steel runners leaving Spitsbergen on June twenty third with twenty eight men he pushed northward but the Summer Sun had broken the ice flows and the party repeatedly found it necessary to take the runners off their their boats in order to fairy across the stretches of open water after thirty days incessant Toil Perry had reached reached eighty two degrees forty five minutes about one hundred fifty miles north of his base and four hundred thirty five geographical miles miles from the Paul here. He found that while his party rested the drift of the ice was carrying him daily back almost as much as they were able to make in the day's work retreat was therefore begun Parry's accomplishments marking a new era in polar explorations created a tremendous sensation knighthood was immediately bestowed upon him by the king while the British people heaped upon him all the honor and applause with which they have invariably crowned every I'm free explorer returning from the North with even a measure of success in originality of plan and Equipment Parry has been equalled and surpassed only by Nansen and peary in those early days few men being being rich enough to pay for expeditions to the North out of their own pockets. Practically every explorer was financed by the government under whose orders he acted in eighteen twenty nine however Felix Booth Sheriff of London gave Captain John Ross an English naval officer who had achieved only moderate success in a previous expedition a small paddle wheel steamer her the victory and entered him in the race for the northwest passage. Ross was assisted as mate by his nephew James Clark Ross who was young and energetic and who was later to win laurels at the opposite end of the globe this I tend to use steam for ice navigation failed owing to a poor engine or incompetent engineers ars but in all other respects the Ross's achieved gloriously they made important discoveries around Boothia Felix Alex but most valuable was there definite location of the magnetic North Pole and the remarkable series of magnetic and meteorological intrical observations which they brought back with them. No Band of men ever sat out for the unknown with brighter hopes the or more just anticipation of success than Sir John Fred cleanse expedition of eighteen forty five the frightful rightful tragedy which overwhelmed them together with the mystery of their disappearance which baffled the world for years and is not yet. It entirely explained forms. The most terrible narrative in Arctic History Franklin had been knighted in eighteen twenty seven then at the same time as Parry for the valuable and very extensive explorations which he had conducted by snow shoes and canoe on the North American coast between the coppermine and Great Fish rivers during the same years that Parry had been gaining fame and the north in the interval Franklin had served as governor of Tasmania for seven years his splendid reputation and ability as an organizer made him though now fifty nine years of age the unanimous choice at the government for the most elaborate Arctic expedition it had prepared in many years Franklin's fame and experience and that of Crozier crozier and his other lieutenants who had seen much service in the north his ships the terror and the Erebus which you just returned from a voyage unusual success to the Antarctic and his magnificent equipment aroused the enthusiasm of the British to the highest pitch and justified them in their hopes for bringing the wearying struggle for the northwest passage to with immediate conclusion for more the year everything prospered with the party by September eighteen forty forty six Franklin had navigated the vessels almost within sight of the coast which he had explored twenty years previously and beyond which the route to Bering Sea was well known the prize was nearly one when the ships became imprisoned and by the ice for the winter a few miles north of King William land the following June Franklin died the ice continued impenetrable and did not loosen its grip all that year in July eighteen forty eight crozier who had succeeded to the command was compelled to abandon the ships and with the one hundred five survivors who were all lind feeble by the three six of winters in the Arctic started on foot for back river how far they got. We Chow probably never know meanwhile. When Franklin failed to return in eighteen forty eight he was provisioned for only only three years England became alarmed at dispatched relief expeditions by seeing from the Bering Sea and the Atlantic Dick and by land north from Canada but all efforts failed to gather news a Franklin till eighteen fifty four when ray fell in with some ESKIMO hunters near King William Land who told him of two ships that were beset some years previous and of the death of all the party from starvation in eighteen fifty seven lady Franklin not content with this bear and indirect report of her husband's fate sacrificed a fortune to equip searching party to be commanded by Leopold McClintock talk one of the ablest and toughest travelers over the ice. The world has ever known in eighteen fifty nine. McClintock verified the Eskimos sad story by the discovery on King William Land of a record dated April eighteen forty forty eight which told a Franklin's death and of the abandonment of the ships he also found among the Eskimos silver for plate and other relics of the party elsewhere he saw one of Franklin's boats on a sledge with two skeletons inside side and clothing and chocolate in another place he found tents and flags and elsewhere he made the yet more ghastly discovery of a bleached human skeleton prone on its face as they were testing the truthfulness of an Eskimo woman who claiming to have seen forty of the survivors laid in eighteen forty eight they fell down and died as they walked walked the distinction of being the first to make the northwest passage which Franklin so narrowly missed founder Robert McClure eighteen fifty two fifty three and Richard Collins in eighteen fifty to fifty five who who commanded the two ships sit north through bering strait to search for Franklin McClure accomplished the passage on foot after losing was he gives ship in the ice in Barrow Strait but Collins brought his pestle safely through to England the northwest passage was not again made until Roald Amundsen navigated the tiny Kiawah a sailing sloop with gasoline engine from the the Atlantic to the Pacific nineteen o three to six Yankee whalers each year had been venturing further further north in Davis Strait and Baffin Bay and Bering Sea but America had taken no active part in polar exploration and until the sympathy aroused by the tragic disappearance of Franklin induced Henry Grinnell and George peabody to send out they had vans in charge of Elisha Kent Kane to search for Franklin north of Smith sound in spite of inexperience which resulted in skirving fatal accidents privations and the loss of his ship canes achievements. Let's eighteen fifty three to fifty five. Were very brilliant. He discovered and entered Kane Basin which forms the beginning of the passage to the polar ocean explored both shores of the news see and outlined what has since been called hauled the American route to the poll sixteen years later in eighteen seventy one another American Charles Charles Francis Hall who had gained much Arctic experience by a successful search for additional traces into relics of Franklin eighteen sixty two to sixty nine sailed the pool Laras through Kane Basin and Kennedy Channel also through Hall Basin and Rogerson Channel which he discovered into the polar opposite itself thus completing the exploration nation of the outlet which Cain had begun he took his vessel to the then unprecedented for a ship latitude of eighty two degrees eleven minutes but halls explorations begun so auspiciously were suddenly terminated by his tragic death in November from over exertion caused by a long sledge journey. When the ice began to move the ensuing year his party sought to return but the Polaris was caught in the deadly grip of an impassable ice pack after two months of drifting part of the crew with some Eskimo men and women alarmed by the groaning and crashing of the ice during a furious autumn storm camped on an ice floe which shortly afterwards separated from the ship for five months December to April they lived on this cold and desolate raft which carried them safely thirteen hundred miles to labrador obrador where they were picked up by the Tigris during the winter one of the Eskimo women presented the Party with the baby so that their number had increased during the arduous experience meanwhile the Polaris had been beached on the Greenland shore and those remaining on the ship were eventually also rescued in eighteen seventy five Great Britain began collaborate attack on the poll via what was now known as the American route two ships most lavishly equipped being dispatched dispatched under command of George Mary's he succeeded in navigating the alert fourteen miles further north than the Polaris Laurus had penetrated for years previous before the winter set in Aldrich on land reached eighty two degrees forty eight minutes. Let's which was three miles nearer the poll than Perry's mark made forty eight years before and the following Spring Markham gained and eighty three degrees twenty minutes on the Polar Ocean author parties explored several hundred miles of coastline but canaries was unable to cope with the scurvy which disabled thirty six of his men or with the severe frosts which cost cost the life of one man and seriously injured others the next expedition to this region was that sent out under the auspices assist of the United States government and commanded by lieutenant now major general a w greely to establish the lady Franklin Bay the American circum polar station in eighteen eighty one greeley during the two here at Fort conger carried on extensive explorations of Ellesmere land and the Greenland Coast and by the assistance of his two lieutenants Lockwood and brainerd rested from Great Britain record which she had held for three Hundred Years Greeley's mark was eighty three degrees twenty four minutes which battered the British by four miles as the relief ship promised for eighteen eighty three failed to reach him or to land supplies at the prearranged point South Afford Congar. You're the winter of eighteen eighty three to eighty four was passed in great misery and horror when help finally came to the camp at Cape Say Bein. Seven men only were alive while these important events were occurring in the vicinity. The of Greenland interesting developments were also taking place in that half of the polar area north of Siberia when when in eighteen sixty seven an American whaler Thomas Long reported New Land Rangel land about about five hundred miles north west of Bering Strait many hailed the discovery is that of the edge of supposed continent extending from from Asia across the poll to Greenland for the natives around Bering Strait had long excited explorers by their traditions of an icebound eastbound big land beyond the horizon. Such extravagant claims were made for the new land that Commander Delong along US Navy determined to explore it and use it as a base for gaining the poll but his ship the Janette that was caught in the Ice September eighteen seventy nine and carried right through the place where the new continent was supposed to be for nearly two years alongs party remained helpless prisoners until in June eighteen eighty one the ship was crushed rushed and sank forcing the men to take refuge on the ice floes in mid Ocean one hundred fifty miles from the new side Mary and islands highlands they saved several boats and sledges and a small supply of provisions and water after incredible hardships and suffering Chee W Melville the chief engineer who was in charge of one of the boats with nine men reached reached on September twenty sixth a Russian village on the Leinna all the others perished some being lost at sea by the foundering of the boats while others including the long had starved to death after reaching the desolate Siberian coast three years later some Eskimos found washed ashore on the southeast coast of Greenland several broken biscuit boxes and lists lists of stores which are said to be into long's handwriting the startling circumstance that these relics in their long drift left from where the ship sank haydn necessarily passed across or very near to the poll aroused great speculation as to the probable Paul currents in the polar area Nansen who had already made the first crossing agreements ice cow argued that the same current which had guided the relics on their long journey would similarly conduct a ship he therefore constructed a unique take craft the fram so designed that when hugged by the ice pack she would not be crushed but would be lifted up and undressed on the ice he provision the vessel for five years and allowed her to be frozen in the is near where the Jeanette had sunk seventy eight degrees fifty minutes north one hundred thirty four degrees east on September twenty fifth eighteen ninety three when at the end of eighteen months the ship had approached three hundred fourteen miles nearer to the Paul Nansen listen and one companion you Hudson with kayaks dogs sledges and three months provisions deliberately left if the ship and plunged northward toward the poll on March Fourteenth Eighteen Ninety five in twenty three days. He's the two men had overcome one third of the distance to the Paul reaching eighty six degrees twelve minutes to continue you on wor would have meant certain death so they turned back when their watches ran down providence guided them and the marvelous marvelous physique of both sustained them through fog and storm and threaten starvation until they reached Franz Josef land late in August there they built a hut of stones and killed bears for meat for the winter in May eighteen eighteen ninety six. They resumed their southward journey when fortunate later they met the Englishman Jackson who is exploring the archipelago. Oh meanwhile the fram after Nansen left her continued her tortuous drifting across the upper world so once she approached his nearest eighty five degrees fifty seven minutes to the poll only fifteen miles less than Manson's farthest list at last in August eighteen ninety six with the help of dynamite she was freed from the grip of the ice and hurried home arriving in time to participate in the welcome of Nansen who had landed a few days earlier Franz Josef Flan where Nansen was rescued by Jackson has served as the basis of many dashes for the poll it was from its northernmost point that the illustrious young member of the Royal Family of Italy the Duke Brute seen lodged the party captain by Cagney that one. I'm from Nansen for the Latin race. The honor of the farthest north eighty six degrees thirty four minutes in nineteen ninety one this land which consists of numerous islands had been named after the emperor of Austria Hungary by vape racked empire fire leaders of the Austrian Hungarian polar expedition of eighteen seventy two to seventy four who discovered and I explored archipelago it was from Spitsbergen that Andre with two companions sailed in his balloon toward the poll aw in July eighteen ninety seven never to be heard from again except for three message boys dropped in the sea a few miles miles from the starting point. The northeast passage was first achieved in eighteen seventy eight seventy nine by Adolf title Eric Norden Skilled step-by-step energetic explorers principally Russian had been mapping the Arctic coasts of Europe and Siberia until practically all the headlines and islands were well defined norton skilled whose name name was already renowned for important researches in Greenland Nova Zan Blah and northern Asia in less than two months guided the steam wailer Vega from Tromso Norway to the most easterly peninsula of Asia but when barely more than one hundred hundred miles from bearing strain intervening is blocked his hopes of passing from the Atlantic to the Pacific in a single season and held him fast for ten months. No resume of polar exploration is complete without mention of William Barons fifteen ninety four to ninety six who for the Dutch of Amsterdam made three attempts to accomplish the the northeast passage around Nova Zamba William Baffin who discovered baffin Bay and Smith Sound in Sixteen Sixteen William Scores be senior who reached by ship eighty one degrees thirty minutes north nineteen minutes east in eighteen. We know six a record till Perry eclipsed it. William scores be junior who changed all ideas of East Greenland. I'm Linden eighteen twenty two and made valuable scientific observations and the German north polar expedition of eighteen eighteen sixty nine to seventy one of the ships of the ladder was crushed in the ice and sank the crew escaped to an ice this flow on which they drifted in the darkness of an Arctic winter for thirteen hundred miles along the coast of Greenland to Frederick's rex thaw the preceding brief summary gives only an inadequate conception of the immense treasures of money and lives lives expended by the nations to explore the northern ice world and to attain the apex of the Earth All efforts to reach the pole had failed notwithstanding the unlimited sacrifice of gold and energy and blood which had been report out without stint for nearly four centuries but the sacrifice had not been without compensation uh-huh so in ventured their lives in the contest had not been actuated solely by the ambition to win a race to breast the tape. I I but to contribute in Sir John Franklin's words to the extension of the bounds of science the scores civics traditions in addition to new geographical discoveries had brought back a wealth of information about the animals and vegetable life the winds and currents deep sea temperatures soundings the magnetism of the Earth fossils and rock specimens awesome in title data et Cetera which have enriched many branches of science and greatly increased the sum of human analogy up brief summer excursion to Greenland in eighteen eighty six aroused Robert e Perry a civil engineer in the United States Navy to an interest in the polar problem Perry a few years previously had been graduated from but doing college second in his class a position which means unusual mental figure in an institution which is noted for the fine scholarship and intellect of its alumni he realized at once that the goal which had alluded so many hundreds of ambitious and thoughtless this man could be one only by a new method of attack the first Arctic problem with which Perry grappled was considered at at that time in importance second only to the conquest of the Paul namely to determine the insularity of Greenland and the extent it's projection northward at the very beginning of his first expedition to Greenland in eighteen ninety one he suffered an accident accident which sorely taxed his patients as well as his body and which is mentioned here as illustrates the grid and stamina of his moral oral and a physical makeup as his ship the kite was working its way through the ice fields off the greenland shore a cake of ice became wedged in the rudder causing the wheel to reverse one of the spokes jammed. Perry's leg against the casement making making it impossible to extricate himself until both bones of the leg broken the party urged him to return to the United States for the winter I to resume his exploration the following year but Perry insisted on being landed as originally planned at McCormick Bay stating stating that the money of his friends had been invested in the project and that he must make good to them the assiduous nursing of Mrs Perry Harry aided by the bracing air so speedily restored his strength that at the ensuing Christmas festivities which he arranged for the Eskimos Mos- he outraced on snowshoes all the natives and his own men in the following may with one companion union asked trump he ascended to the summit of the great ice cap which covers the interior of Greenland five thousand to eight thousand feet in elevation Bachchan and push northward for five hundred miles over her region where the foot of man had never trod before in temperatures temperatures ranging from ten to fifty degrees below zero to independence day which he discovered and named on July fourth eighteen ninety two imagine his surprise on descending from the table land to enter a little valley allie radiant with gorgeous flowers and alive with murmuring bees where musk oxen were lazily browsing this sledding journey which duplicated by another equally remarkable crossing of the ice cap three years later defined the northern extension attention of Greenland and conclusively proved that it is an island instead of a continent extending to the Paul in boldness of conception option and brilliant see results. These two crossings greenland are unsurpassed in Arctic history the magnitude the Tude of Perry's feet is better appreciated when it is recalled. The MANSON's historic crossing of the island was below the Arctic Circle Call. One thousand miles south of Perry's latitude. We're greenland is some two hundred fifty miles wide. Perry now returned his attention to the Paul which lay three hundred ninety six geographical miles farther north than any man had penetrated traded on the western hemisphere ticket there by the American around he must break virgin trail every mile north from Greeley's elise eighty three degrees twenty four minutes. No one had pioneered so great a distance northward Markham others had attained enduring fame by advancing the flag considerably less than one hundred miles parry had pioneered one hundred fifty miles and Manson one hundred twenty eight from his ship his experiences in Greenland had convinced Perry if possibly more firmly than before that the only way of surmounting this last and most formidable barrier was to adopt the manner of life the food the snow houses and the clothing of the Eskimos who by centuries of experience had learned the most effective effective method of combating the rigors of Arctic weather to utilize the game of the northland the Arctic Reindeer Musk knocks et cetera which is explorations had proved comparatively abundant thus with fresh meat keeping his men fit and good-tempered through the depressing pressing winter night and lastly to train the Eskimo to become his sledging crew in his first north north polar expedition which lasted for four years eighteen ninety eight to nine thousand nine hundred to Perry failed to get nearer than three hundred forty three three miles to the poll. Each successive year dance packs of is blocked the passage to the polar ocean compelling him. I'm to make his base approximately seven hundred miles from the poll or two hundred miles south of the headquarters of Neri's too a great distance from the poll to be overcome in one short season during this trying period by sledging feats which in distance Stinson physical obstacles overcome exceeded the extraordinary records made in Greenland he explored and mapped hundreds of miles of coastline of Greenland and of the islands west and North Greenland on the next attempt. I Perry insured reaching the polar ocean by designing and Constructing the Roosevelt whose resistnace frame crushed its way to to the desired haven on the shores of the polar seeing from here he made that wonderful march of nineteen o six to eighty seven degrees six minutes on new world record wins unusual fury by opening big leans robbed him of the poll and a nearly of his life the story of the last Perry expedition which resulted in the discovery of the Paul Paul and of the deep ocean surrounding it is told in the present fi you by Commander Perry the three hundred ninety six miles. AL's from Greeley's farthest had been vanquished as follows nineteen hundred thirty miles nineteen. Oh to twenty three miles nineteen o six one hundred sixty nine miles nineteen thousand nine one hundred seventy four miles no better proof of the minute care with which every campaign was pre-arranged reached can be given than the fact that though Perry has taken hundreds of men north with him on his various expeditions he has brought brought them all back and in good health with the exception of two who lost their lives in accidents for which the leader was in in no wise responsible what a contrast this record it is to the long list of fatalities from Disease Frost crossed shipwreck and starvation which in the popular mind has made the word Arctic synonymous with tragedy and death thus Robert e Perry has crowned a life devoted to the exploration of the icy north and to the advancement of science silence by the hard one discovery of the North Pole the prize of four centuries of striving yielded last two the most persistent and scientific attack ever waged against it. Perry success was made possible missile by long experience which gave him a thorough knowledge of the difficulties to be overcome and by an unusual combination of of mental and physical power on resourcefulness which enabled him to find a way to surmount all obstacles a tenacity not and courage which knew no defeat and the physical endowment such as nature gives few men it has been well said that the glory of Perry's achievement belongs to the world and two shared by all mankind but we his fellow countrymen who have known how he has struggled these many years against discouragement and scoffing and how he has persevered under financial burdens that would have crushed less stalwart shoulders specially rejoice that he has made good at last ast and that an American has become the peer of Hudson Magellan and Columbus Gilbert H Grosvenor National Geographic Society Washington D. C. USA August Thirtieth nineteen the North Pole chapter one the plan and it may not be an apt to liken the attainment of the North Pole to the winning a game of chess in which all all the various moves leading to a favourable conclusion had been planned in advance long before the actual game began. It was an old game for me a game which I had been playing for twenty three years with varying fortunes always it is true I had been beaten but with every defeat came fresh knowledge of the game it's intricacies it's difficulties its subtleties and with every fresh attempt success came in trifle nearer and what it before appeared either impossible or at the best extremely dubious began to take on an aspect of possibility took -bility and at last even of probability every defeat was analyzed as to its causes all their bearings until it became possible to believe that those causes couldn't future regarded against and that with a fair amount. OUGHTA good fortune the losing game of nearly a quarter of a century could be turned into one final complete success pass. It is true that with this conclusion many will informed an intelligent person saw fit to differ but many any other shared my views and gave without stint their sympathy and their help and now in the end one of my greatest unalloyed pleasures is to know that their confidence subjected as it was too many trials was not misplaced aw that their trust their belief in me and in the mission to which the best years of my life have been given have been abundantly justified justified but while it is true that so far has plan and method or concerned the discovery of the North Pole. Oh may fairly be likened to a game of chess. There is of course this obvious difference in chess brains means are matched against brains in the quest of the poll. It was a struggle of human brains and persistence against the a blind brute forces of the elements of primeval matter acting often under laws and impulses almost unknown they were but little understood by us and thus many times seemingly capricious freaky not to be we're we're told with any degree of certainty for this. Rezende while it was possible to plan before the hour of sailing from New York mark the principle of the attack upon the frozen north it was not possible to anticipate all the moves of this adversary had this been possible my expedition of nineteen o five to nineteen o six which established the then farthest north worth record of eighty seven degrees six minutes would have reached the Paul but everybody familiar with the records of that expedition addition knows that it's complete success was frustrated by one of those unforeseen moves of our great adversary in that a season enough unusually violent and continue to winds disrupted the polar pack separating me from my supporting party with insufficient supplies so that when almost within striking distance of the goal it was necessary to turn back because if the imminent peril of starvation when victory seemed at last almost within reach I was blocked by a move which could not possibly have been foreseen and which when I encountered it I was helpless to meet and as is well known I hi and those with me or not only checkmated but very nearly lost our lives as well but all that is is now is a tale that is told this time it is different and perhaps a more inspiring story though the records of gallant defeat feet are not without their inspiration and the point which it seems fit to make in the beginning is that success crowned the efforts of years ears because strength came from repeated defeats wisdom from earlier error experience from inexperience and determination from them aw perhaps in view of the striking manner in which the final event or out the prophecies. He's that I had made it may be of interest to compare in some detail the plan of campaign that was announced over two months before the Roosevelt outsailed from New York on her final voyage to the north with the manner in which the campaign was actually executed early in May nineteen o eight in a published statement. I sketched the following plan quote. I shall used used the same ship the Roosevelt shall leave New York early in July shall follow the same route north Via Sydney Anthony. CB Strait of Belle Isle Davis Strait Baffin Bay and Smith sound shall use the same methods equipment and supplies shall have a minimum party of white men supplanted with Eskimos shall take on these Eskimos and dogs in the whale sound region as before an Shallan defer to force my ship to the same or similar winter quarters on on the north shore of grant land as in the winter of nineteen o five to nineteen o six the sledge march will begin as before in February but my route will be modified as follows first. I shall follow the North Coast of grant land as far west. I Has Cape Columbia and possibly beyond instead of leaving this land at Point Moss as I did before second leaving the land my course will be more west of north than before in order to counteract or allow for the easterly set of the ice between the north coast of Graham Land and the poll discovered on my last expedition another essential. Oh modification will be a more rigid massing of my sledge divisions on route in order to prevent the possibility of a portion of the party being separated separated from the rest by the movement of the ice with insufficient supplies for a protracted advance as happened on the last expedition. Shen there is no doubt in my mind that this big lead a lane of open water encountered in both my upward and return return marches in my last expedition isn't essentially permanent feature of this point of the Arctic Ocean. I have little doubt of my ability to make this lead instead of the North Coast of grant land my point of departure with fully loaded sledges. If this this is done it will shorten the route to the poll by nearly one hundred miles and distinctly simplify the proposition on the return march in the next expedition. I shall probably do voluntarily what I did. Involuntarily less time that is retreat upon the north coast of Greenland a course diagonally with the set of the ice instead of attempting to come back to the North Costa grant land diagonally against the set of the is an adjunct of this program will probably be the establishment of a depot well up the north coast of Greenland by the first of the supporting parties returning to the ship and quote the main features of this program. I summarized as follows quote. I the utilization addition of the Smith sound or American route. This must be accepted today as the best of all possible routes for a determined termined aggressive attack upon the poll its advantages are land base one hundred miles nearer the poll than is to be found at any any other point of the entire periphery of the Arctic Ocean a long stretch of coastline upon which to return and into safe and to me well known line of retreat independent of assistance in the event of any mishap to the ship second the selection of a winter base which commands on wider range of the central polar sea and its surrounding coasts than any other possible base in the Arctic Regions Cape Sheridan is practically equidistant from Crocker land from the remaining unknown portion of the northeast coast of Greenland and from my nearest the poll of nineteen o six third the use of sledge's at Eskimo dogs man and the eskimo dog are the only two machines capable of such to just meant as to meet the wide demands and contingencies of Arctic Travel Airships motorcars. I trained polar bears. Etcetera are all premature except as a means of attracting public attention forth the use of the hyperion aborigine the whale sound Eskimo for the rank and file of the Sledge Party it seems unnecessary to enlarge upon the fact that the men whose heritage is life and work in that very region must present the best obtainable material for the personnel of a serious Arctic party. This is my program. The object object the work is the clearing up or at least the fixing in their general proportions of the remaining large problems in the American segment meant the polar regions and the securing for the United States of that great world trophy which has been the object of effort an emulation among practically all the civilized nations of the world for the last three centuries end end quote the details of this plan have been here set forth so explicitly because the faithfulness with which they were carried out what constitutes a record which is perhaps unique in the annals of Arctic exploration compare this scheme if you please with the matter of its execution as had been planned the expedition sailed from New York early in July nineteen o eight July sixth to be exact it sailed from Sydney July seventeenth from Etat August eighteen and arrived at Cape Sheridan the winter quarters of the Roosevelt on September fifth within a quarter of an hour of the same time it had arrived arrived the same spot three years before the winter was occupied in hunting in various side journeys. He's in making our sledging equipment and in moving supplies from the Roosevelt along the northern shore of grant land to Cape Columbia AH which was to be our point of departure from the land on our dry for the poll itself the Sledge Divisions left the Roosevelt from February fifteenth to twenty seconds nineteen now nine Rendezvous Cape Columbia and on March first the expedition left Cape Columbia heading across the polar ocean for the poll the eighty four th parallel was crossed on Marci team the eighty eighty six on March twenty third the Italian record was passed the next day the eighth parallel on April second the eighty ninth on April fourth and the North Pole was reached on April sixth at ten o'clock doc the morning. I spent thirty hours at the poll with Matt Henson Utah the Faithful Eskimo who had gone with me in nineteen. Oh six to eighty seven degrees six minutes the then farthest north and three other Eskimos who had also been with with me on previous expeditions the six of us left the much-desired nineteen north on April seventh on the return turn journey and reached land at Cape Columbia again on April twenty third it will be noted that while the journey from Cape Columbia to the poll consumed thirty seven days though only twenty seven marches we returned from the Paul to Cape Columbia in only only sixteen days the extraordinary speed of the return journey is to be accounted for by the fact that we merely had to retrace her old trail instead of making a new one and because we were fortunate in encountering no delays excellent conditions of ice and weather also contributed not to mention the fact that the exhilaration of success went wings to are sorely battered feet but Utah the Eskimo had his own explanation said he the devil is asleep. We're having trouble with his wife or we should never have come back so easily it will be noted in this comparison that practically the only feature of the plan for which essential deviation was made was in returning to Cape Columbia on the coast of Graham Land instead of further eastward to the northern coast of Greenland as I had done in nineteen oh six. This change was made for excellent reasons. which will we made clear in their proper place? Upon this record there is only one shadow a tragic one indeed need. I refer of course to the lamentable death. A professor Ross G Marvin who was drowned on April tenth four four days after the pole had been reached forty five miles north of Cape Columbia while returning from eighty six degrees thirty eight. It's north in command of one of the supporting parties with the sad exception. The history of the expedition addition is flawless. We returned as we win in our own ship battered but unharmed in excellent flint health and with a record of complete success there is a lesson in all of this. I'll lesson so obvious that is perhaps surpurfluous to pointed out the plan so carefully made and executed with such faithfulness to detail was composed of a number of elements the absence of any one of which might have been fatal to success we could scarcely carsley have succeeded without the help of our faithful eskimos nor even with them had it not been for our knowledge of their capacities for work and endurance and for the confidence which years of acquaintance had taught them to repose in me we could certainly not have succeeded without the eskimo dogs which furnished the traction power far sledges and so enabled us to carry our supplies where we're no other power on earth could have moved to them with the requisite speed uncertainty it may be that we could not have succeeded without the improved form of sledge which was able to construct and which combining in its construction strength lightness and ease of attraction made the heavy task of the dogs far easier than it would otherwise have been it may even be that we should have failed had it not been for so simple thing as an improved form of water boiler which I was fortunate enough to have hit upon by diets aid. We were able to melt ice and make tea in ten minutes on our previous journeys. This process had taken an hour. T. is an imperative necessity on such driving journey and this little invention saved one and one half hours in each day while while we were struggling toward the poll on that Cherney win time was the very essence of success success crowned work. It is true but for all that it is a genuine pleasure to reflect that even had we failed. I should've had nothing nothing to reproach myself with. In the way of neglect every possible contingency that years of experience had taught me to expect it was provided for every week spot guarded every precaution taken I had spent a quarter Urva century playing the Arctic game. I was fifty three years old and age beyond which perhaps with the the one exception of Sir John Franklin no man had ever attempted to prosecute work in the Arctic regions. I was a little past ask the zenith of my strength a little lacking perhaps in the exuberant elasticity and lawn of more youthful years a a little past the time when most men begin to leave the strenuous things to the younger generation but these drawbacks were fully balanced perhaps by trained hardened endurance a perfect knowledge of myself and of how to conserve my strength Frank. I knew it was my last game upon the Great Arctic Chessboard. It was win this time or be be forever defeated the lure of the north it is a strange into powerful thing were within once I have come back from the great frozen spaces battered and worn and baffled sometimes maimed telling myself myself that I had made my last journey that they're eager for the society of my kind the comforts of civilization and the peace and serenity of home but somehow it was never many months before the old restless feeling came over a a civilization began to lose its zest for me. I began to long for the Great White Tess elation the battles with the ice and the gaels the long long Arctic night the Long Long Arctic day the a handful of odd but faithful Eskimos who had been my friends for years the silence and the fastness of the great white lonely north and back. I went accordingly time after time until it last my dream of years came true and with that I think we'll end this this reading from the North Pole. It's discovery in nineteen. Oh nine under the auspices of the Perry Arctic Club by Robert Burt Jerry. I know this is supposed to be boring books per bedtime but I honestly can't wait to read more of this. Uh if you'd like to read this work for yourself you'll find a link to a free e. Book version at Project Gutenberg in the show notes. If if you have a book you'd like to hear read the best place to catch me on twitter at boring books pod. I'd love to hear from you. Thank you so so much for joining me this evening until our next boring book goodnight.

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Death By Rainbow, Face Blindness, Watermelon Snow

The Weirdest Thing I Learned This Week

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Death By Rainbow, Face Blindness, Watermelon Snow

"Between yes it's going to be Super Spooky and wonderful and weird Thursday October thirty first come have some drinks where costumes hey weirdoes it's Rachel before we get into the show this is just your quick reminder that our next live performance is going to be at caveat in New York City on those tickets fast popular science report and write dozens of science and heck stories every week super blurry faces it's always presented as kind of this like fantastical difficult to imagine thing that and this is a pretty common tale actually so a lot of people know that Oliver Sacks who was a famous neuroscientist and physician and writer must be super rare so you can imagine my surprise when I realized that I have it WanNa WanNa start with I'm pretty curious about faces absolutely great so a lot of people are familiar with the concept of face blindness as like uh really like bizarre impairment that keeps people from recognizing anyone and I think there was a piece in like wired was illustrated with the weirdest thing I learned this week from the editors of Popular Science I'm Rachel Feldman I'm Eleanor Cummins I'm cat essner cat welcome to the studio thank you so much for really beloved science communicator one of my science writing heroes actually the first popular science book I read was the man who took his wife for a hat which is a very it's one of the many things we love about you so it's about time so on the weirdest thing I learned this week we start by each offering up a little tease about some kind of fact we number before that wow a menace I love it must be stopped by rainbow my God of your band eleanor isn't it actually check out my mix tape I can't my fact is about a colorful chemistry demonstration that is injured more than seventy high school students and teachers in the United States since two thousand eleven and and injured our listeners cat is one of our regular contributors on POPs I dot Com and visiting us from the Great White North come on seriously came across in the course of reading writing reporting and decide which one we just absolutely have to hear more about first then once we've all had time to spin our little it's yarns we reconvene and decide with the weirdest thing we learned this week actually was owner would you start with your T.'s yeah I wanna talk about the science the classic case study from Saks there's this character named Dr p and he is totally unable to recognize faces including his wife and most of the stuff we stumble across weeks into our articles we also find plenty of weird facts that we just keep around the office so we figured why not share those with you welcome uh-huh okay my tease is that most of the people I meet look pretty much the same to me what's up with that unusual yeah to do it without you so we hope you'll buy your get soon you can go to caveats website or look for the ticket link at pop site at com slash weird we always sell out so get doc that Oliver sacks not until his late adulthood did he realize that he himself had face blindness and I always heard the story as being like so wild you know the brain we're so we think that what we think of as normal as so normal that he could actually work with these patients who had classic face blindness who he famously tried to lift up from her shoulders because he thought that her head was a hat that he walked in with okay so I don't actually know any no you don't play anything but now you have to learn just ideas okay so what do we often referred to as being this like the classic face blindness story a man mistook his wife for a hat it's right there in the title and so people talk about the this was really not face blindness visual nausea meaning like the general inability to recognize objects for they are okay so in the same we uh-huh Toronto I'm not from Nunavik Okay Okay Fair gone and so we are so pleased to have you here on the show because you know a lot of weird things hind one of those biblical plagues where water turns to blood off Yum yeah delicious love that convoluted red form with linear green attachment it's not easy to say what it is it lacks the simple symmetry of the platonic solids may have a higher symmetry of its US and and never know and the truth is that WHO's lack of self diagnosis is actually not surprising at all and I'll explain why so him the man who mistook is wafer the thing about face blindness can you just help me understand what actually goes on for people so here's the thing is that this classic case of face blind that you know a a Faiza is where you'll you'll say words totally disconnected from their meaning you will look at an object and you can see all of its characteristics but you can't terrible processing how all of those surfaces came together to make recognizable object so it's not surprising that faces were just as difficult as anything else to him so he sees you know like a colorful mass on top of a rounded object and he thinks his hat hat stand and it is in fact his wife's head put those together into knowing what the object is so for example Dr p famously was handed an object and was told to describe it and he said about six inches in length and it's one of those things that remains really poorly understood because it has to do with perception and the way you navigate the world and like realized that I have some degree of face blindness not until a few years ago and I happened to read a wikipedia page for press up Amnesia so like oh it's a five tubular surfaces interconnected didn't one plane or something like that he he just saw the world in like shapes and his brains exemple of something totally different way more intense so it is not surprising that in looking at this man Oliver Sacks wasn't like oh just like my life saying different senses because you know you like cure color you taste names so a lot of people don't realize they have like less dramatic own then he smelled it and he was like oh it's a rare blood and he he was looking for his gloves and he picked them up and he he was Diam right but looking at the body of research now is clear that the reason they're only two confirmed cases is because most of them are lumped in with face blindness which we and recognition so yeah by some estimates one in fifty people have some form of this and face minus in the historical record back pretty far any other issue of of perception there's a huge range of them I mean think about like since Tita where people are you know processing one stimuli and like experience like hair color and look of anticipation and once I realized I once I started reading descriptions of face blindness that weren't like men who mistook his wife are just starting to understand is actually not that uncommon so it's like part of this spectrum of difficulty in perception and memory recall before I could imagine their face when they weren't there or recognize them out of context and it can be super embarrassing I've definitely had people like come up to me and start talking to me stop back nausea is face blindness press Amnesia is the name that if you researchers have given to a couple of cases to confirmed cases of people due to injury because that's a situation where someone knows what was normal to them before and knows that it's different after the injury making the report the different up your whole life just being like while I'm bad at remembering names or thinking that you're just like awkward or just thinking that it's more much harder for doctors became aware of and I think it's really like be in the age of the Internet that people have become much more aware and hey it's me your friend do they know like why faces isn't just the people get so offended that we pay a lot of attention to this a high level bananas I realized that this had always been a thing for me that I would have to meet someone dozens of times sure of someone I was about to meet I could look up from that picture and still have no idea who I was looking for in the bar I would just go by Cassia because it doesn't come up and they just assume this is how other people process words and shapes around so I who can see faces and recognize them but can't commit them to memory and reading this I was like that's exactly what I have but it was like their only two confirmed cases and I was like Oh who do I think to try to unscrew people's yeah exactly and in fact some recent research suggests that one in fifty people have some degree of face blindness and then be like super offended when I don't know who they are it's so personal yeah and so I've started actually if I know that someone who I haven't committed to memory flaw in the network and maybe it can occur at different stages of the processing that you know for me it's more about committing to memory like I can look at two people I feel like that's probably true of so many more invisible kind of small cognitive impairments that it's only once people start talking about like they're weird quirks it's a pretty straightforward evolutionary mechanism to be able to recognize people as friend or foe and there's some evidence that people are better at distinguishing okay now I see how this happen so but the thing that I didn't even realize until looking back on this is that it's really not a classic example of face blindness it's a class face blindness is focusing on so like face processing in the brain does involve a lot of brain areas working together they're actually Shen who had a bullet wound to the head and so the earliest cases of face minus actually see talked about by doctors or all that we all start to realize how common there for me it was when I moved to the city and I started using online dating and I realized that no matter how many times I looked at a p Klay and so it's only in recent decades that people have started to become aware of congenital or developmental face platinum s because if you particular sort of issue or our faces something that were more likely to struggle way or yeah that's a great question and that's something that a lot of the research on albums with facial memory are known to rely on non facial cues and this is definitely true for me i these tapes within like their close-knit groups for that reason that you know you're you're adopted to like really quickly recognized people who who might be like the two so we know that face blindness can result from physical damage to some of these areas and it seems like probably if it's congenital it's that there's you know some kind of are but it's only in nineteen forty seven that Joe Him Baltimore who was a German neurologist published a description of the twenty four year old ah I think like six selective areas of the brain in each hemisphere that are tied to recognizing a face so it is definitely we'll be at a party and we'll be like I've so sorry I have no idea who you are my apologies and people are very offended about it even when I say that and like tell you what's different about the two of them right but if then they turned around and you're like described their faces at they had a phase not you know hey try now you can just refer them to this episode yeah honestly that's my whole purpose for doing this is that I just want people to leave me like something we use higher processing for than just being like that's the table and there's a lot of interesting work into deciding like why that is obviously Man Hair police sketch artist would not know what to do with that yeah no I I actually like who like don't recognize themselves when they look in the mirror while and I definitely in thinking about it I'm like I think maybe the reason I hate pictures of myself so much is that I'm kind of like who's that is meaning me somewhere where it's like attending a show I'll be like just you know I'm super faced line so I will not know who you are yourself these okay very hard time retaining e mental image what I look like so that's my story I loved it thank you yeah that's that's fascinating took athlon decathlon featuring ten questions on the week's top tech news that's followed by a rotating roster of Puzzles Quiz and winner-take-all debates subscribe now too popular Okay we're back and eleanor why don't you tell us about blood great okay we've all been warned to avoid yellow snow this episode of the weirdest thing I learned this week is brought to you by popular scientists athlon from the team at Popular Science magazine scientists took off on Tech H. L. O. N. on spotify you can also learn more at pop side Dot com is and recognizing faces is so important to human social life and survival that we just get so much practice but it's probably some combination of typically on facial memory pleased at me up studying fascinating thanking a we're gonNA take a quick break and then we'll be back with more facts you what about watermelon snow watermelon smells delicious yeah okay here it is guys is watermelon snow ooh not knowing who they are that being said I mean my facial memory problem is relatively mild are people with true extreme face blindness TACTICA wow well you should so watermelon snow is a naturally occurring phenomenon it's in like Alpine and polar regions around the world especially allies or enemies of you like machine learning and had so much data exactly well and then some people are like there's nothing special about the way we process faces it's just that we see so many faces I'm very reliant and take very intense notice of like what people are wearing I'm very good with voices I can recognize like any voice actor but I often the first known recording of this phenomenon actually comes from Aristotle shout out to my boy who wrote in his history of animals that quote living animals are found in sentences like the northern part of Colorado and also in the Sierra Nevada a little farther west and the question for thousands of years has been what causes it so thing I am a medical marvel say no but I'm really I'm really glad that they're starting to be more research on this and if anyone is trying to do studies that would be a big problem for me please don't rob me and Melena I'd have to make them a saying like that episode really couldn't let it go and they were convinced that there was going to be a waterway that would allow them to travel around North America through the Arctic unfortunately at that time and he eh there was lots and lots of snow blocking their path that's no longer true you can oh get along the Arctic pretty well now in eighteen eighteen Sir John Ross of the Royal Navy those guys in the terror who like really died a lot of bad horror stories that y'all should google but he he basically really didn't accomplishment the only things of note that he vice no but watermelon snows profile rose ever higher in the early eighteen hundreds because at that time the English were searching for the northwest passage early in the summer and the snow turns pink and not just vaguely pink as people saw this photo that I showed in the studio it's like a real full blushing pink thousands of dying worms and snow everywhere because it can cover them all field that's what that's what made that was what spoiler he was wrong but well he also brought home a vial of watermelon snow from Greenland or as the Times of London pointed out in an article on the discovery snow water it hadn't mm face blind well that's too bad some people don't believe me and think that I just don't care about them and I'm here to tell you that maybe you don't care about you it's also a universal issue so I usually supposed to be incapable of putrification for instance worms are found in long lying snow and snow of this description gets reddish in color and the GRUB that is Rosa or like the cover of idiot but a two minute a novel you should all read but in the United States you can find it in several mountain ranges it's in the nature of its coloring matter quote our credulity is put to an extreme test upon this occasion but we cannot learn that there is any reason to doubt the fact as stated onus points if you get some inspiration from weirdest thing episode which I definitely have and my costumes going to be really good so bring it anyway it would be super weird your speculated again wrongly that the color was maybe leading out of nearby rocks like ones with iron deposits that would sort of oxidise and that would kind of paint the labeled to return to the homeland were one a mountain chain he thought he'd identified and named Croakers Mountain in Lancaster sound just beyond Baffin Bay soups turned out to be a mirage and his reputation was over weight wow what an idiot and he was like Oh these beautiful Croakers Mountain Catholic is a tech news podcast with a twist a weekly show the catches you up on the latest tech news through Games Trivia and friendly competitions that you can play along with each episode starts with the have discovered I will tell my fellow Englishman and then it was like dude that does not this dude stop eating the food struggling but yeah right upsetting strange yeah strange Asians no one likes it everyone's making gross faces we talked about the blood falls and the fact that this guy misidentified non-existent is totally reputable source holy arguable source Sir John Ross did not see any red snowfall but he saw large sets out in the HMS Isabella and he's right by none of 'em in the Canadian Arctic and so he's like I'm GonNa find this way through and he fails but at least you didn't die like that so the paper's complete account talks about how he brought the snow water he's admitted it to chemical analysis with a y. and that in order to you know they were trying to discover the uh-huh and that actually leads me to a final point ellen are thank you that I thank you Andy Sandberg that people with face blindness gender in its read as might have been expected and it is also Harry so that was his theory of what was going on that they were just like hundreds of the tracks overspread with it the color of the field of snow was not uniform but on the contrary there were patches or streaks more or less red and various depths of tint the liquor or dissolve snow is of so dark as to resemble read port wine it is stated that the liquor deposit sediment and the question is not answered whether that said Hatton if you have questions suggestions or weird stories to share tweet us at weirdest underscore thing thanks for listening Weirdos rain and so going back to homer's Iliad in which Zeus rains blood down upon the soldiers to warn them of an ensuing massacre thank you Zeus has evaporated blood raining down again or sunspots that were altering our perception or maybe some suggested dust from the Sahara blowing into you like all these epic stories like it said to be one of the inciting incidents for Richard the Lionheart the King of England and his path to the throne anyway some thought it was absorb so when this watermelon snow starts to blossom it's just pulling in tons of sunlight and warmth and it's basically responsible for accelerate algae blooms like they go ten inches deep into the snowbank in some cases and they can cover you know miles of land and so the thing is about this and rocks and occasionally immense these red aerial sports so here's a photo of the Carola blood rain which really does just straight up with like Rosie explanations but that obviously wasn't right either today we know that the real cause of watermelons no is okay any guesses cyanobacteria it's algae Austin associates and they're saying that basically this guy has determined that its meteoric stones that occasionally fall in more southern latitudes that had reading snow melt in like ice packs all around the world but you know at least we have an explanation for a rate and so is not the only Algebra mystery you're up and pigmentation the rain and it was only twenty fifteen which is so recent that researchers were finally able to definitively conclude the true cost thank pizza for millennials only until when Algiers disturbed these red pigments actually sort of like flood out of the algae and color the surrounding area it's similar that's really problematic because they speed up snow melt so of course white snow reflects light but the darker the snow the more light it will actually yeah so it's called clammy Dimona Novalis which I practiced saying yesterday because I didn't want to sound too much like committeea although they both sort of given the snow it's color so he was like all of this is wrong it's aliens well he didn't say alien but he did say meteors people people who love their space Yes but occasionally rare bursts of this red colored rain have been reported all around the world about a few hundred if is leading so it is part of it is oxidation of this very salty brine that's coming up from under the glacier but in just this gash of letty liquid I'm Gonna I'm GonNa show you do they know the source of the are pretty confident about the US there is a spattering of blood rain Carola in India and so they took samples from that and they identified it as Trente full IAEA microalgae that lives on tree trunks guises when it's really cold the ALGIERE dormant and they pile up alongside the snowbank but in the spring they're activated by the warmth and so they start to Germany and spread we got the scientific community into a tizzy so a few days later the Times of London publishes the follow up where they're like some doubt has been expressed as to the reds no observed by Sir John discovered here's a little bonus fact and then sounds like Rachel has another factor too about blood falls I love those blood falls the thing I was going to mention is that there's something called blood thing I learned this week is brought to you by anchor if you haven't heard about anchor it's the easiest way to make a podcast it's free their creation tools that allow you to record an start the same way well technically a green algae clammy Dimona has these red pigments inside its body I actually have a picture of it's red pigment so it's really beautiful podcast with no minimum listenership it's everything you need to make a podcast in one place download the free anchor APP or go to Anchor Dot FM to get start recent years did actually determine that it also has microorganisms that probably contribute to the color and it's very exciting because it's one of those areas that could potentially yup like sell it a traitor debt rain so just these little bits of algae all over the world have been inspiring up them and for obvious reasons it was long considered about omen it was thought to be searched for mystical origin which like same yeah understandable yeah very understandable and it features in away to the red tide off of Florida or the mats of green algae that are always destroying New York City ponds every summer in the sense that these deposits of Comey to Monas are is doing an interview for a story I did for an issue popular science that upcoming on fireworks and the expert I was talking to said Oh and you know you might run across aw Oh that's so pretty not nice it was kind of like Baloney yeah like a pizza yeah just thinks it looks like a pizza it's like a very beautiful head okay we're back and it's time to talk about some deadly rainbows yeah well earthly they're pretty alien and they look like blood yeah so I love that I hope we find many alien worlds let's just look like they're covered in blood that's my hope Heo Hill Hill Hill. The demonstration gets a bad rap basically every rainbow demonstration of three components so different metal salts a flammable solvent which is usually methanol and of course fire because yeah we're GonNa take a quick break and then we'll be back with cats fact this episode of the Weirdest Oh elinor kind of jumped the gun when she said Rainbow because what I want to talk about is actually called the Rainbow Demonstration Rainbow claim demonstration. I'm proud of myself so I ran across this when I was high school class demonstrations we were talking about fireworks but I went and did some research later I discovered that this is actually I don't think the demonstration itself is entrenched get your podcast right from your phone or computer anchor distributes your podcast for you can be heard on spotify apple podcasts and more and you can make money on your show us what life might look like on other planets because you know the microorganisms that are losing up from Warren pockets under a glacier are not very physically dangerous like I think the impression that I've gotten from the research of did is that if you use proper lab practices and you observe basic chemical like chemistry safety and etiquette go from back to back so this is the Taylor glacier in Antarctica and we can link to some photos but it straight up looks like the glacier is like bleeding it's Oh the the colors common metals use the metal salts are strontium carbonate for red calcium chloride for orange sodium nitrate for yellow Barium chloride I do remember my High School had one infamous chem teacher who like I think he periodically set his desk on fire. These may have been rumors so if he's listening to this what you probably isn't other stories like this so dispatch the Rainbow flame demonstration of the Rainbow Demonstration which you if you've ever seen the first episode of Breaking Bad Walter White actually is doing a modified version of this let's for literally Millennia I love that you know what else has rained from the sky before our lead sucking lampre fish no thank yo how not I guess I'll just have to talk mm-hmm it's historically a fairly popular classroom experiment and my understanding is that you can find a number of like chemistry teacher manuals although I suspect that's changing now really a cool way of showing kids y fireworks work you can see a lot of these rainbow demonstrations on youtube as well if you're interested but again like this is a potentially very dangerous experience meddlesome them so these are the same metal salts usually that he used to give fireworks colors interesting thing I found out about fireworks actually doing this story which isn't in the story you can proudly sound like high school to me no me neither well and so this was one of the reasons I got interest in this but I think I think it is possible and certainly not the only one the like several differences hi we're one hundred percent and get going to get sued by his estate anyways so explain how the demonstration works and then I'm GonNa sort of unpack the problems with it okay so in the rainbow demonstration every variation basically a variation of of the experiment of about this so sorry man but you know you see periodically set his desk on fire and I certainly saw him in his students blow some stuff up at one point and you know what I mean and I remembered it should go fine yeah the issue is the methanol if you're performing this experiment in the safest way possible gold standard everybody in the room was wearing safety goggles all your something about the Rainbow Demonstration in you know your research I just want you to know that it can be very dangerous you can get more information online said Okay and sort of moved on because we weren't really talking about is that all fireworks used to be white like the first fireworks were all white they were just like fancy white explosions and then someone got the idea of adding metal salts in the seventeen hundreds anyway so tmz visible yeah it's yeah no I know and it's one of those things were like thinking about it I guess I I can see how this happened I can't imagine anybody who accidentally in the first episode the episode of breaking bad I've ever seen the rainbow flame demonstration or just the rainbow demonstration is intended to show students the colors you can achieve when different metal saulters exposed to flame hood and you're only bringing the smallest amount of methanol into the experiment area so you're only bringing what you need which is basic chemistry that's basically you don't bring like the they're wearing protective gear beat you have a barrier between students and the experiment you can get like clear explosion proof and like everything proof barriers for chemistry classes and you're doing it under green

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The Corporeal Virus

The Leviathan Chronicles

43:13 min | 2 weeks ago

The Corporeal Virus

"The. Leviathan chronicles. Seasoning, three. The story thus far Senchenko has been killed after battling Jason Sterling and which Roberts at the buffer station deep in the Congo jungle santions suffered grievous wounds was trapped within the imploding ancient temple as the blackstone group and the Accion aliens escaped to a secret base in the Canadian territory of Nunavut as his only means of escape censure utilize the damaged keyhole array within the buffet station not knowing that without the program destination, the array would default towards the. Greatest keyhole density leviathan sensual materialized, battered, and bruised at the series of Keyhole smoothie. Med. Tower of Leviathan despite his condition century is instantly recognized by the surrounding populace as the architect of the deadly multiple rebellion seventy years ago that killed over a third of the population within Leviathan the ensuing mob seed for revenge and literally tore sentence body apart leaving him. To die of bloody deaths in the cobblestone streets of Leviathan. But in his last act of redemption session wrote, the coordinates of the black door groups Arctic destination on a piece of paper that was recovered from his pockets when evangeline honor God finally dispersed the crowd upon further analysis. Leviathan senses revealed a massive surge of stone radiation emanating from the same location mcallen. Pushed angeline to assemble an interception mission tasking her Anton Tally Dublin to reach the black door group before they can aid the aliens with making contact with Iraq seem fleet. Leviathan continues to be plagued with operational failures as the maddox virus invades the civic I of Leviathan Clark cameras that and engineering under chief amsl attempted to stem the city's power loss by injecting the Thommo, Matrix with energy from the Stockton mcallen obtained in New York. But as the virus revealed at sentence, Liz became trapped in the thermal call which was overloaded and headed towards a magma breach but Clark Ham was able to remotely operate a loading Mac from the West Hang. To save at repair crews a now littered throughout the vice city and evangeline has finally ordered citizens to prepare for the possibility of evacuation. and. Now, Chapter Forty, seven, the corporeal virus. evangeline rose from the wound bed in her private chambers, stretching her long limbs and rubbing her hands across her face. She took a deep breath and felt the gratitude for being able to stand on her own two feet again to be conscious to be alive. Her head still felt foggy and it took longer for her is to focus than she remembered she gently rolled her shoulders twice before making her way to the stone framed window that overlook the city that she built. Time can not out yet. It's always been about time has pushed eternity so far and it's such cost. What time is all I. Ask God is a bit more strength. Close your whispering to yourself eve. I. Thought that was a pleasure reserved exclusively for my is, and this pillow alone evangeline lover called from the bed with someone who used to be a priest. You've certainly taken to carnal pleasures with some reverence. Only with certain partners. Good to know I'm in select company, you're in the select company of one and only one then never has been in the never could be another come back to bed with me well, Rome still always be fired but not on great quin. There's more at stake than anyone realizes seeing you live and feeling you next to me makes me already feel like we've won whatever war we may have to fight. Please eve, come back to bed evangeline hesitated, and then walks back to her bed slipping under the sheets next to Harlequin. Had nothing to do with me the queen. Mother I lived died. After you save, Leviathan. Since when did you become? So patently optimistic somewhere around the time I saw you open your eyes again after I thought I'd lost you forever. I'm not trying to save this city Quinn. I'm trying to save this planet. Why do you think I made so many people immortal out of Vanity leanness. I needed an army to defeat an enemy with overwhelming technology and didn't need my valuable investments passing away after a mere seventy years. Is that why you made me immortal to be an implement in your tool chest and implement of pleasure? Eve evangeline leans forward to Kiss Harlequins, mips and neck while pushing her room body on top of his moments past like the greatest luxury in the world is the to lay intertwined. Seriously Eve. Why me you different from the others different how you made me selfish the others lament to serve roles in the Eden Initiative. But you you were the one thing I wanted to take for myself and what is my role without you? Who am I without your desire I am in your heart Harlequin and you are in mine without me, you'll have to answer to a greater cooling to become something beyond a thief beyond a scoundrel, a return to the priesthood. No certainly, not I just think that you better is a leader than you are as alone. Well, look who's talking the woman that started a cult in the most inhospitable place on earth the woman who wanted to develop a defence against superior and in the and didn't want anyone to bother her in the meantime evangeline FAO silent. She looked out the window again and could see citizens far below preparing for the evacuation orders she warned could come soon and makes me sad that it's all come down to this. Tell me what will happen if mcallen and her team don't get to the crossbow station in time what if they if they die? Yes. Then the aliens will do what they've been trying to do for thousand years. Make contact with SOREX, bring their forces to Earth, enslave, the human race or perhaps just exterminated for describing an event of unparalleled singularity. You don't seem terribly worried at this point I've done almost everything. I can almost well that's just say there's always a last resort. I don't like the sound of that Eve. India. Cover. Antibeach Beach I. Beg your pardon would do after Leviathan is saved. Wade had to cover. Auntie. Island and lay on the ivory powder beach shaded by palm batches. An- sleep at the camp I built myself many many years ago. There's a resident part of spinner dolphins that likes to hunt and play by the reefs of the West. Shall we eat lobster that we cook over a small beach fire drink the last of the vanishes that were able to abscond from. Leviathan. Meg Love in the mornings and the cool evenings and the clear night skies I spend hours telling you all the reasons why I love you. And you'd hold me close to you and tell me how fragile you'll heart is and we wouldn't tell another living soul where we were so that we could own it all. Completely. As House. Only, hours run the city Mrs Queen at the Miss Me. Harlequin. Slowly took his hand and reached it behind evangeline head letting his fingers run through her thick scarlet hand. And her lips and had his as the wove their bodies together for another passionate moment. I Love You eve goddess. I love you. I've been such four to allow my prior to keep me away from you for so long I. Want You Harlequin, I, want you be with me even more than I did a thousand years ago in Scotland were not who we were then. What better. Time has made us better. Two hours later Harlequin and evangeline setup in her bed. She smiled at him as he reached for a glass of chilled Vinicius on the bedside table when Harlequin turn to offer her sip, he noticed that has smile had faded more to thinking about Sinjin. Why did he come back? He certainly didn't last long someone tried to kill someone did did you see the viciousness of that crowd? The crowd didn't kill him. Dr Link examined the body in the mentor. As soon as we get the crowds away, she said the body had suffered a traumatic gunshot wound sensuous dying his last act was to come here to come home. No no, he wasn't coming home. His home was on the surface always was now he was scared and I think he died trying to tell us that we should be scared to. Oh my gosh overland. Command Gawking we gotta get ready for this mission man holy this place this city it's amazing to you realize the amount of engineering required to keep an area this large at surface pressure I mean just keeping the water outages enough for Nobel. Prize totally tear realize were deeper than almost any are lovie earth can go. The ocean pressure alone at this depth which her tractor trailer into an iphone. Yeah. Well, I don't think you're going to get very good reception down here. Seriously, we gotta get ready Tully look at the size of that Cathedral high looks bigger than Notre. Dom just looking all the scaffolding must still be building it and more like rebuilding. Signalled a lot better last down here look Oberlin I. Don't exactly think the real estate values and the fire Senate going up these days. In fact I think we need to get out of here soon. Real soon, I got a bad feeling look at those buildings where the people live that looks like the biggest teepee I've ever seen and win over there is like a miniature Taj. Mahal. Totally, look the purple grass over. Roland, we gotta get moving the Condor is gonNA leave in a few hours. It's up to us to stop whatever these aliens trying to do and I don't need to tell you that the black door group is prohibited. Give me a little more time really if the world is really going to end, I want to be able to drink all of this in this place I didn't come all this way just to excuse me miss. Have you seen an Asian woman that? Tab Oh. Oh, excuse me Sir, can you tell me if you see a Chinese woman named Miami Dammit oh I'm sorry sir. By any chance can you tell me if you're seen someone named my Lee is she's an Asian woman about soar high as that's the boys and girls that. Sorry. But I don't really understand will income on. We don't have a lot of time. I'm not gonNA wait for you. Hi need to find her look older and you've got to let it go. We've got way more important. than spin around violently and brusquely snatch tally by the color his. quit being. So fucking selfish tully. You got your girl back. I'm not leaving this place without my. where? Would really say gun it back. Excuse me pardon me Ma'am but own Jesus why won't anyone stop to talk to me Oberland? These people are getting ready to evacuate. They don't have time to talk to some random stranger especially, not someone who is you know immortal or? Whatever down here. For the love of Saint Andrew I was a three hundred year old tyler turned around of broad heavyset man with Dick Harry trying to position three massive wooden crates onto a floating maglev sled. Angus Angus McKay is that you? Know my spouse totally I mean captain tully another thought. I'd see your Saudi shadow doc in these three again, it's kind of a long story. We still have time to hear it but you heard what lady evangeline has said the populace needs to prepare itself for the possibility of an evacuation order to try and some of those valuable contents of the squid put away. So they won't get lost like a piece of C- Within case well, you know. Angus pointed up to the cabin ceiling Michigan reestablish the floor Matrix giving it the appearance of Novacopy. Sky. But both highly Angus Mackay understood the grim reality that the occasional drops of water that fell from about represented to the survival of, Leviathan, Hey, listen I don't have a lot of time myself but can I give you a quick hand and this is a my best friend Oberlin Saint Clair mice, amita overland any friend tol- as a friend of mine. Far Better friend. If you're both helped me get six more crates hold up from the squid save the heavy ones too strong ducks like yourself. Happy to hell get no problem Angus Spang. Bless your heart both. I'll just head. To prop open the door to the line. Your friends seems like a nice. Yeah. You should see the Scots selection. This Guy Angus has not just scotch. Tequila absent and a bunch of other stuff. I've never heard of I've been to a few bars in my time and I'm telling you that the salty squid is something else. just they way from the squid ships. Come on in fish nuggets. Angus Mackay had not been exaggerating about. Of of the room crates that needed to move last two required all three men together in unison to hold the heavy containers up the narrow twisting stone steps that connected the salty squid to the main Zavod. When the last of the crates rested security on top of the magnets. I'm just turned to tally in Durban who both breathing heavily. Thank you lots. I couldn't have done it without you. You've done a noble deed today by saving a treasure trove of goddesses finest liquor. Let me valuable drink to express my eternal corrected. I'm not sure we should angus. We sort of have a lot on our plate. This mission is really important giving to tell me that the fate of the world will rest upon the shoulders of your sorry asses on that you're going to literally fly into a situation of life threatening consequences to ensure the survival of a human race on your don't want to have a drink I three men still together in silence I. Mean I think we could have. Maybe just road. I don't be rude really. I thought as much come on you to on got something special. I've been saying behind bar. The three men won't back down the narrow and cracked stone steps to the tiny twisted alley where the salty squid resided angers pulled on the heavy scratched wooden door. And Dublin tally inside. Bottle season for the pocket faith in US history. Assurance. Editors. Come to me. Angel I've been thinking about you for a long time. Angus returned to the bar with the Dusty Clare Bottle. The label was torn and faded. Batali. Could just make out the words mckinlay's Malt Whisky. So what are we have here? Guess a Vati special whiskey cannot be right. The bottle says eighteen, Eighty, seven I've never seen a bottle that old while this isn't just any hundred thirteen year old with scape Oh. Thank goodness my heart almost sank. I'd shoot myself if I had to drink another century scotch well, then I think you two are going to be pleasantly surprised because this bottle right here in front of you used to belong to a sailor, an explorer one Mr Ernest, Shackleton Ernest Shackleton the South Pole explorer I one of the same the ruins of his boat the Nimrod were discovered with a case of Whiskey still stashed away in one of the statements I. was able to come by about through some channels have. I. Can only imagine this gorgeous Ambrosius has been aging in Arctic conditions for close to one hundred years not enough to actually freeze what's inside but enough to strip away all the harshness on allow exquisite highland the flavor to come for on your lips chaps ready for us it. Yes please angus you are a very generous man with what I hope is a very heavy wrist. Angus pulled the golden spirit from the musty bottle into three heavy crystal grasses and Oberlin's eyes widen does his glass seemed to produce his own woman limitation from the priceless contents within gentlemen? We could tossed to the success of your mission but I think that would be a bit obvious. We could toast to love. What a sad sooner Toast Patterson unicorns come on. Don't always be Irish. No No. I've got a better idea. How about we toast to the C to see. Top. Assi. Will raise the crystal glasses to their lips after taking the full measure of a moment to inhale the intoxicating aroma imbibe. And then allow the glorious lingering aftertaste to melt throughout their mouths and throw. My friends. Is Real whiskey. It was like a flock of angels landed on my Tom. Then decided to stay awhile that is some who Chang's Wow Like just wow, you have quite the poet captain. No adult like to see empty glasses my bottles long as it's still stems let me portier. We'd around I s please. I. Have No Resistance Angus poor the two of them another ounce of the precious mckinlay's whiskey before offering himself another generous poll. So what will you do things? Given to get out of here to evacuate anger swelled the amber liquid in his glass before he spoke. Well, I'm generally pretty good at following orders especially, when Lady of Jelena's given them I got most of the knickknacks here packed away along with most of the Minolta's can't really produce it on the surface. Of, figured, our find a quiet spot somewhere up there hang a sign and do what I've been doing for the last few centuries pouring drinks Sharona laugh an offer and people some place in some solace to step away from their problems for a little while I'd like to see that bar hangs metoo. Well, hopefully, you won't have to if you to scalawags do your jobs properly we're going to get it done angus we will do everything in our power angus. Well, maybe we better drink to your success after all look I can't believe I'm saying this but I think I've had enough to drink. You've been so cool angus really you're a great pal and I hope I come back to your bar soon no matter where it is they'll be a pint on a stool waiting for your Ali you to Auburn. Thank you angus. We'd love to stay longer but but I have someone needs to find here in Leviathan Hey. WanNa Jask anxious. He knows everybody down here is my friend is looking for a girl. He thinks his down here. I know she's down here. Hi, let her chump into this keyhole to Leviathan right before everything got crazy. Well, who is this mystery woman? My friend? She saved my life more than once her name's Miley she's about five seven slender wicked smart knows Kung Fu and likes COGNAC Sounds like my Kinda woman Oberlin lifted his head and just stab Tangus. Sorry mate didn't mean to offend. The ascent her name was my Lee degen. No mate. I haven't seen her terrific. Did I mention? She's also an expert in the disappearance bought just because I don't know who are where this woman is. Doesn't mean there's not someone else who like what do you mean? Well, yeah said she jumped through a Keyhole to get here. Right? You're sure she didn't jump back. She couldn't have I was right there at the entrance before it blooms drew I was there to watch it half I know she was here because mcallen had her detained in the Great Cathedral apparently she gave mcallen some bad information I wanna Callan came back to confront her Majlis chamber in the Cathedral was empty varnish that she my goodness not that many places to hide down. Here. At the bottom of the ocean like I said, she's an expert at disappearance to be the better of any bad news. But I think you've seen the state of affairs within Leviathan. We've had a few cavern collapses and sadly have been some injuries as well. Even some deaths maybe the reason you haven't found your mile lease because she hasn't been around the phone mile lease not dead she's too strong for that. Well, there's only one way to find out is angus just turned an approach to grimy panel on the side of the bar. He moved a few bottles aside and gave the wall a few rubs with his elbow to reveal a small video panel he punched in a few buttons. And slowly a grainy image materialized within the screen. Did you get your. Of Yours Call. Because my carrier pigeon has intestinal issues on Abreu up by Tom Com getting ready for this fire drill lady of Jelena's coal. Can I do for you I'm? Called the plenty more somewhat twenty squibb chips You mind on the other I'm calling on behalf of a friend of mine. He's looking for an Asian girl that came down here through some sort of mysterious circumstance and I just wanted to check that the honor guard hadn't phoned her often she had some sort of unfortunate accident. No. Confidential information justified files, and all I do know that I also know be shame if I didn't remember pack any of that Argentinian from nineteen sixty, five that you care for so much such a tragedy that it's available anymore. Musty I'm afraid I must. What's this young lady's name? Lee I'm told checking. nope nobody named mainly or anyone that fits that description has come through our doors in the past charging days get back I. Know I. think that uncertain question you're good mind. For the record I never would have forgotten your sherry me. You as well. Appreciate the favor. I'll be senior soon. Well I say that some rather good news there. I'm I'm not sure I understand thought was the mortgage Leviathan rather shadowy group. As you could imagine, considering the immortals were not supposed to be in the business of dying. But there's a good chap there who I go way back with on he just confirmed that your lady friend is not in his possession. So you've got yourself some more looking to do what do you mean Anka's wow. The logic is pretty simple. You know she's down here because there really isn't an easy way out of Leviathan. Isn't dead than she's alive and here the question is, will you be able to find her before the ocean finds her when it floods this cavern I'd say time isn't on your side Overland Sinclair A half kilometer to the east, a chipped in Scott Cave hug rumbled hurriedly along the narrow paved parkway available park chief. Denson had ordered Engineer Hemsworth who was driving to step on it to make sure that the reported magma leak in the cavern wall did not reach the city's chemical reserves. Unfortunately, his progress was delayed by more pressing reality. Another cave Hogan Front of them was stopped due to a large metallic obstruction lying in front of both hey what's the problem out there? We've got a clear this roadway radiohead to these guys I can go around to chief. We can. But not we need to get two or three fire pots down here. Are Few reserves. Came on nine. Blocking way, we can't get it activated and it's GonNa be override just push the whole off to the side I don't care where you put it, but we gotta keep this roadway clear for the buyer bonds. Our Alabama th floating not even the cable. Just, do a whole system reset on. That'll get this twinkie standing and we can worry about it later. Reset, require authorization covered you or under. Higher, we need you to come down here. Love a Jiminy. Cricket. Hold on. Hey Hemsworth. Pull over to the side and pop the pressure hatch. I gotta see what's going on with this match chief. The first cave hog inched forward onto the Purple Cross available park sinking several inches into the soft field. It came to a stop alongside the second cave. Honk that had it's paved pathway blocked by the delman loading Mac, the side hatch of the first cave hauge post open and chief dents and pulled himself out with surprising deftness sorts. The problem hosting they still can't get this halt to move sir, I tried all the mission codes but I think it needs a hard reset going to need your access code. We saw this happened a few weeks ago. Probably those electric's coming off that keyhole fried circuits. Okay. Why don't wait Clear what he got problem, we've got tenure. My believes less than twenty hours from the saves or read. We're sending over a team right now hang in there. You gotTa keep it together for another six seven minutes you copy. that. Get hit. It's getting steamy engineering out tooth denson sprang to his feet and looked urgently at the engineer. Next to him was pulsing. I need you to get back in your honk and go around this dead I don't care if you tear up every garden able park and leave a trench deepen up for great. You get to the fuel depot ASEP and get welding I'll take care of this mammoth. So we can get some fire pods through to provide support to minutes behind you. You gotta go to young man Spun and run back to his vehicle. To run back to his own Cave Hawk and quickly stuck his head in fight the pressure hatch. To Punch you over to the fuel depot stat follow hosting ahead of you. They need welding supported all and she got in the back. Okay. Don't stop for anything I'll meet you there moving out now. The massive reinforced tires of the Gargantuan came forest crushed the cobblestone curbs on the parkway and torn to the tend to ground able Park Dutch and sawed flew in the air as the vehicles rush north towards a dangerous red glow near the genesis sewn of Leviathan where the chemical fuel reserves was stored dense and ten back around liquor the dormant Mac still blocking the road oak or exactly we're going to do with you my overgrown friend. Let's access your touchscreen. So we can. Without warning all if the hazard lights on the Mecca illuminated at the same time, blitzer them sense up in your lights beyond if your power matrix isn't. The mammoth class tucked its legs under chassis and rose to its full height of over twenty toll bent forward slightly as if to Marcus and then extended to of its four clawlike appendages. What? Standout burn silver I'd stand down. into. Match. Maddox left CROC grabbed chief by the. White Crew Doug sharply into. One swift motion maddox that'd and cold pulled the. Cheap Denson's last terrified site was at the other core holding the lower half his body before he faded into unconsciousness. released. His mechanical. Allowing the two of Marcus Denson's body to fall down to the muddy ground unceremoniously. CH-. An hour earlier at the West Hangar Bay. The suffer shuttle is ready mcallen, all the cargo been loaded they double checked it myself. I've loaded a full complement of light arms fully insulated survival suits and enough explosives to level time center. I think you mean time. Square sorry. I've never actually been to New York. It looks really fun. Well, if I get back when I get back, I think you and I have earned ourselves a shopping day in the big apple that sounds like fun mcallen. I want you to now. I. Wish you good luck. You're amazing astronaut. Really you never let me down. Thanks councilwoman I try just so you know it'll take about forty five minutes to reach depth in order to dock with the condor underwater. So you better get moving understood. I'm waiting for the rest of the crew members to arrive and get briefed. Well, it would appear that someone else has arrived to see you off I think I'll leave you alone. McCallum looked down from the loading gate of the Zephyr Chateau and was surprised to see evangeline staring up wearing a simple white gear. What are you doing in a bed? Dr mcallen. No but I'm a doctor that should be some credibility I'm fine mccollum. Better than I've been in a while considering the mission you're about to undertake I suspect that it is I that should be doing the worrying John Worried. I've come to peace with tally is the best pilot that's ever come out of Leviathan ineffective team well, just in case I thought I'd bring you something for your mission a good luck charm of sorts. What is it? It's something that was given to me a very, very long time ago Macau walked down to the floor of the Hangar Bay and approached evangeline. and placed within a worn leather necklace with a dull grey charm in the center. mcallen couldn't immediately identify its form, but then realized it was in the shape of a wolf with small gems for I. Thank you. It's. It's beautiful. Now it isn't. But it is deadly. evangeline twisted the head of the Wolfram poll. Revealing tiny blade more than an inch long it's polished shine contrasted to the dusty outer appearance of the crude wolf carving. Wow, that's a surprise more than you know. It's nice with one of the deadliest poisons ever created death is painless but occurs within sixty seconds seems like too nice and ending for some of the villains were facing the necklace doesn't have to be for the villains. mckellen's dead evangeline and understood we aliens then not would you think they are they're insidious and they can get inside of you these be Catholic who get there in time of Angelina, and we will get the aliens back here to Leviathan where there threat can be contained. It doesn't matter if you bring the aliens back not just as long as you stop them evangeline stared back at mcallen seeing herself unto well, I will pray to the goddess for you. evangeline leaned forward and kissed mcallen's cheek gently then she took a small step back to take full measure of Macau was quite fetching in my younger days. Wasn't I I think you're still pretty damn hot if that's what you're implying this small on evangeline space widened for an instant, but then faded in disappeared, it's a desolate job maccagnan being the leader you have to give them old enough today so that they'll follow you into the clear vision. You see for tomorrow, never doubt yourself and never stop looking forward. You have my strength mcallen no one will ever be able to take that away from you. I'll keep the team on task evangeline I promise take care of them all mcallen. And then evangeline turned and walked out of the Hangar Bay to enter a point whisked her away to the crowded streets of Leviathan. Come on okay. Okay just let me ask a few more people. She probably tried to come this way to ski part of IFM overland. Don't you get it? If we don't hurry and get to the crossbow station and I'm my Lee is as good as dead we all are. So if you really care about her want to find her, you'll get on that shuttle with me. Now oberlin stopped todd into his friends arms saved my life tully and you'll save hers. Come on buddy account is waiting for us. All right. You Win. Let's go tally designs, Rando balloon and hugged him close. And when we get back. And we will get back. We're going to find my. I promise. Even if we have to turn this whole city, help the whole world upside down to find her we will after all with treasure hunters, right? We've find stuff for a living, but we suck at it. We still haven't found the Orlando Cortez all that's true but we still gotta go oberlin allowed US think small to escape his lips Lead on captain totally Oberlin and tally rush through the giant doors if the West hang of a and hurried towards. Zephyr launch to when mcallen stood on the loading ramp with her arms outstretched. Hello, is being on time to save the world too much to ask. It was really by false mcallen. You see I in the damn. Well, I don't care. Do I smell liquor on your brush. Talley rushed into Holidays Jeff approved as. Quickly Secure Patch. Clear get us out of your Anton. West handed this dog water one entering Launch Tube initiating pressure equalization. A. Shot Out of the Capitol Mall at high velocity. Leaving a glistening trail of civil the air bubbles following behind the ship crackling under the severe pressure as the ship entered the main channel of the Marianas trench and Tom pulled the nose of the up would pushing this effort towards the surface. He cautiously leaned on the throttle said the everyone inside could feel the floor rising against their feet as the ship jetted towards shallow water. How long will it take us to rendezvous with the condor at least an hour a context celery or essentially foster without risking a breach in Holland tekere to See what? I mean. This ship continued it's GonNa Leah sent towards the surface of the sea journey through blackness. So dark that. To disown was nothing beyond the plastic viewing port tally in Dublin what together in the of the Zephyr to assemble the argument give team which required to their assault on the crossbow station after one hour disaster finally reached a depth of sixty five feet below surface and approach the site of the condor extending a three foot sleeve of its started side to line up the dissensions hatch. Are activated to pump seawater out of the sleep chamber leaving a mostly dry compartment for McCowan had teamed transfer the cargo and man the appropriate stations in the condor. Talion balloons secured several crates of Garin. The oft cabin while Anton quickly got into the pilot's seat and prepared the Conrad of Hydra scrap mode McCallum followed close behind him and within moments the Condo was breaching the surface of the Philippine Sea. Soon offset, antawn activated the hover. Allowing the ship to play too few meters over the surface of the water. His F- on remote back to Leviathan. If we fail, they're gonNA Ninety dollars ships they can get. So for cobbled. dewitt but o'clock. Activated mcallen stead out of the cockpit window and watched the bright midday Sun Shimmer the surface of the zero. See She took a deep breath and leaned over the pilots Chad to bring her lips close to and Jose rn time. Right now I want you to show me a fucking fastest plane can go. More than eight thousand miles away in the remote Canadian high north whipped Robert stood over an expanse of keyboards monitors within the icy bowels of the crossbow station his breath condensed in front of him as he carefully entered the code sequence needed to bring the crossbow station online split-second later. The Ham of electrical motors kept in and fluorescent lights pop delight in secrets illuminating the launch control room in which he stood a large screen dominated the walls it showed a satellite view of the earth and scores. The volpato tracking lines followed hundreds of geostationary satellites and their precise location nationality. The temperature in the room was to Greece Fahrenheit and wit quickly don one of the for college white pockets that hung on the hook sned the door but it came as no surprise to wit when Jason Sterling entered the room shirtless his red skin now stained by leaking black streaks through small source on his chest status on bringing all systems online full power to the station should be restored within fifteen minutes good to. See to Nakas technology seems to be working properly considering the station was constructed decades ago. How much time until the IRA launch liquid oxygen is still being transferred into the fuel chamber I'd say we should be launch ready three hours of the aliens they said they were tired from the journey being trapped in the buffer station, left them week Elgar and coroner nourishing themselves within the star stone on the sub level of crossbow. Yes. Yes I can sense them. They better do it fast I we're going to run out of time soon, Jason once the rocket launches its trajectory and our location will be visible to every satellite in the free world, and then there will be anywhere left for black door to hide way or not black door anymore. Once we launched the Arrow and the satellite reaches position in high orbit, it will provide a signal beacon for the CERATOPSIAN fleet the rest of the world no longer be a concern they'll. Try to kill US Jason everyone not when they realized that we are humanity's last chance it was our group that negotiated the human race is preservation. We may never get to tell our side of the story. Once the Arrow is the way, it will take another eight hours for the beacon to reach the high. All the necessary could transponder signal posing forces launch an immediate strike. We may not have the defenses to last eight hours in this station once we confirm that. The beacon is an that we can evacuate the station with the Ceratopsians. There's a mining tunnel that leads to a small pork with a vessel docked in the southern left had it disguised to resemble a commercial fishing trump will exit through Baffin bay stay in international waters until the arrival of the Ceratopsian fleet at that point, the world we know find itself rather distract in less than twenty four hours. Human beings will no longer be the dominant force of life on this. Planet what about us in Russian missile defense, they have the technology to take out the air the technology to take out a conventional ICBM. The Arrow possesses still technology that can defeat any countermeasures. The US Russia can muster up whip Robert Swiss silent for a moment and then spoke in those voice what about the immortals can they still stop us now without knowing where the crossbow station is they'll never get here in time and the location died with sunshine any but wit. You've done well, my friend and we both had to pay a high price to get in but nothing is going to stop us anymore. It's time to revel in what we've accomplished and take pride in the gift we've given to humanity. Did it with You and me. Sterling doubled over in pain and when he stood up, his hands were covered in the black monk that now leaked from the of his experience then. I need to see the Sarah actions they're calling for me continue the countdown for launch with turned and walked towards the exit of the launch chamber. Jason What is it? What if the aliens don't keep their end of the bargain? They have no choice. They have to provide a human sanctuary for breeding purposes wit and that sanctuary will need leadership. That's right. Our leadership. You have been listening to season three at the Leviathan Cornell police to listen to all of the season three episodes right now and get the exclusive epilogue episode purchase. 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Back to the Future - Unanimous Decision #141

"Welcome back to be named decision podcast i'm your host people follow me on twitter at deep on six six follow the show on twitter at u d pod foley entire internet were at gr network found a solution subscribe on i tunes schreiber on spotify subscriber everywhere podcast you give it away absolutely free ninety nine or back i know you're thinking hey friday that's what we differ podcast trump and you're not wrong about that but that's way subscribers place that talked about since you could get up to the day you de pod news in the big news from i guess recording on thursday some are stewart jeez june twentyseventh air fish off in paul heyman had been handed the reins of smackdown respectively and i would be miss if i didn't wanna talk who wrestled my good friend sam frank sam palm this is a as i noted on twitter like for people that are big wrestling fans i tried to use a different sport analogy in the one that popped into my head was this'll be like it's baseball commissioner rob manfred handed over control of the american league to ride in the national league pete rose like just people that are kind of you know against thee grain of what vincent man with trying to do for so long and now he's giving control of his two most important assets to these two people that at one point were trying to take him down well let's start we'll definitely get to that is that is like that's why that's why you are like on the microphone really either yell at are televisions like so much crazy shit happened this morning but i do wanna talk about russia almost five thousand while in the last week some pretty interesting if not in earning at least on the internet which is the most twenty nineteen thing you could possibly say nope those of you who are wrestling fan heavy keeping track god bless you you're better than us by seth rollins he of universal championship a grand slam he of one of probably be cornerstones of the future the ww me he went on a little tlc will put her chesting this week in happened before stomping grounds and he kind of came out and said hey margaret or one of the best show possible we work no one works harder than us over puts on a better show known this more consistently and the w w e the biggest crossing pergram acquit now full stop right there i have there's very little taking to take issue with a guy is looking at his brand a guy who's been tad internally and externally as a leader about forementioned brand has said you know what the thing i did my my wife my heart my soul to the place that pays my bills the place you live in that's that's invested in me i think you're pretty damn good at the wrestling thing did you have a problem with that same see i don't have a problem with what's left it at all in fact if i did have a problem with other of the two parties involved you know with with sort be a beef the came out of it my my beef would be with with will ask ray because you know he's in a situation where it just kind of looks like when when you're the quote unquote little guy or whatever and obviously he made t shirts and and good for him for jumping on a capitalistic opportunity but you know he he he's not in the position of a guy like seth and a guy like that who's worked very very hard to get to where he is and and the guy who's been through the ringer so to speak she ended up finally seems to above hit his stride in the biggest company in become one of the faces of the one of the biggest a you know wrestling company with right now the biggest wrestling company in the world and so that and so i don't i don't see between the two of i have no problem with either one of them because sat came out and said what he said he's the captain of the team he says i believe much rocket that now offers like look pro wrestling everywhere i'm i'm alive and actually see that 'cause i don't live in so for me as you were both brother who say made early thirties who grew up ninety tip off in this is just this is andre previn robbery law since the thank you check every year rick forever thrown and talk shit talking shit is professional wrestling like the the problem that i have with the people are just going too far or or or or will often result look man the point is the point is were all talking about maybe that's the point where talking about it and people like oh says trump you said he talked about his paycheck oh you shouldn't do that he that tell you lose the argument were harassing you watch it just seems like winning the argument meyer and i thought you win argument if it's not like it's not worth watching unlike rationality ten play through this is where you swing the biggest stick in you show i mean this is where you know brother and oh yeah came from man like this is not normal life if if people come to pro wrestling in say festivals wrong droppings quite literally that's how we talk about professionals who you're talking about a mount rushmore you say who drew the most money in the hardest time people down kevin national champion because you have any holding the title at one of the down here's the wwf so forgive me say that it's not about the money all of a sudden is a super weird take in my opinion considering the business were talking about yeah it's like super popular still i you know what he never wore that potato sack of the ring debbie he didn't even brag about the hoover hoover rideshare he took to be arena you've got us into middle say hell no roofer limousine ride that play if why why this is this is professional wrestling this is supposed posedly happening and if we got a situation where people were so high it's about what they're doing they're so in love with the product they're producing whether it's whether it's fucking it makes you jump off a building not if the performers and get behind if the performers and say i'm doing everything i can to take the biggest part i came to that side jammed between those roads why are we manage it and look what is one thing that rick flair you know be sixteen time world heavyweight champion the the phrase algae you is used the man and obviously it's kind of funny that ties in because obviously becky lynch is dating seth rollins but he's the mayor of course and i'm saying here man when your thumb man it comes with that braggadocious she sniffed that swagger that you have to have an this is the the champ this is the guy in the ww right now the champ of monday night raw end he should have this attitude you shouldn't be like yes i'm the best damn wrestler on the planet planet somebody tell me that's not right we figured out around 'cause you i think hip hop you people whatever the thing is to literally fucking anything i'm just saying like this is the point where like if they saw each other in the clubs in terms of getting from like you know that that's not even maybe in nineteen ninety four but in two thousand nineteen baffin bay getting what they've done here what have they done here but and that's he was all you're you're denigrating wofford disneyland loss rate would have been reynolds ignoring it sets brother it's all over there seth rollins has a massive platform the biggest thing you could look at big big they will tell you one day arguments they make does take a little bit in big bank doesn't have the into a bank little bank pops up in big big now did they who they this is like the back of this is this is sort of a microphone for the tiger we have exhausting but you'll see more exhausting more dumb one of the best on the planet who happens to be an executive in an up and coming organization speaking out in a way seems to fly in the face with a reasonable organization what am i talking about kenny omega for items you'd be champion of current face of all elite wrestling he sent out a tweet this week and i don't have it in front of you could see deleted it but to paraphrase he says if taking blood money per wrestling's okay if she is i guess it's okay to undercut hey it's a a a a charity show show show dedicated survivors goodbye i don't really have fun and i know it's gonna be accomplished i didn't know really i feel gross doing what he's talking about is that hw spider best which is gonna be aired on air for free i believe it's july thirteen i mean it's a mental they're gonna be airing on we were alive 'em is gonna be happening in florida ww this weekend now that the network will be streaming that same night they involve tenth anniversary they're also littering the card with ww town nfc down because sweaters gay philosophy is an integral part of most of the things you love the wb all the ring of honor guy seth rollins tower black crime peterson daniel bryan samoa joe samoa joe a casino a says are those guys are all ring of honor when galas running in now gave broke offered runs the ball and involve if you spend in the nfc is the minor league then of all this the feeder system the mike involves like you're eighty you programs for best of all it's where matt rule campus where members since after he got picked up on the wb trial he said i don't think i'm ready i need to season myself they see them the game they're very open and very good working relationship with case lucky and they're able to produce johnny gargano cedric alexander drew goulash an adam page adam cole accused empty adam cole a a a colorado a lot of these guys came through those doors and silver accuses ola so for them to go back to the anniversary people's i think can't even thinking it's more of a a a a kind of takes away the shock me w but how could you take away the shine when i believe the of all events in philly in w vincent florida were not exactly activism tickets in both events are streaming so i'm probably gonna eat the pr wise in watch hw show eventually i'm definitely watches the show eventually if it's a weird complaint from someone who's companies owners also happen to be giving and taking money from the thirties yeah it's definitely a weird situation and palm just for clarity stake a spider fasted this weekend pifer the fallen is the one that's up against be involved show that michael the name everything the same thing they did it is very very close you crawl but it's not because i'm an idiot because it's like me earlier when we were in will get to this later on the bishop thing but i said the smackdown gonna be the first a free their national wrestling blah blah blah just completely forgetting about you know we all but again it is a weird situation and it just kind of feels like be little pot shots that were starting to see both sides taken each other in reference the w w e an a an eight w an this'll be interesting because the coming up in july this this of all card it's gonna be a pretty good one i mean it's it's gonna have a matt read on it it's going to have a the current annex t t champion adam cole on it so that that is certainly a car that it's gonna go up against you know fight for the fallen and probably dented numbers if i had to pick one i would still be eight w event but just because i'm very intrigued by what they're doing but this whole thing about this head the head stuff it's it's it's great the business but once they start to take like these little pot shops and things like i don't think you know general fans really care about all all of that stuff they they just want the the to the constantly being spring each other onto a greater and wrestling forever well that's what's interesting to me because what eighty w k me and they said they were gonna compete with ww which is why they said they want it to increase the pool over overpressurization how better to increase the pool then by televising under network d h w tv show like if you're saying agents the health professional wrestling is disingenuous to say the ww should not be so airing this a city chauffeured independent very real the spicy working relationship with ww eat all the independent promotion right end then getting a bigger spotlight denny no one no there's not one person in america who is like i was gonna watch hw of whatever the title of being paid is but now i'm gonna watch of all one thirty one number that's easier number anyway um you see what i'm saying it it just feels it feels like and i'm not saying that this is why he w is gonna be interesting to me because i am one of those people who while i respect and love the territory days will just put themselves over because they were the only ones they could try an i'm curious how it's gonna work when you're a public mouthpieces savings like this that fly in a legit face of the reasoning reasoning of the existence of the company because they're so wildly popular on the internet or whatever it's hard to taken attack but if you're doing objective wins you have to ask yourself well then what's the point of eight w is it is it to take down ww we are you wearing a shadow war or is it to increase professional wrestling foothold in the public that guy's if so deal falls showed getting more eyeballs is objective lee good rational wrestling yeah login puree w you gotta stop this whole were not competing with ww easter while you have kenny omega out here taking potshots at them and you have a you know cody rhodes a by destroying a a triple h three i mean it's like okay we did like the this is going to be a competition because competition is what makes both better and what will ultimately make both better because ww we have not had competition in a long long long long long long long time since these final wc w match which was rick flair player versus thing after that no competition i don't give dna impact any of those like credit but they they don't deserve the a lot of that was regurgitating some wc w stars and trying to get the last vestiges of people with that kind of a thousand but ultimately hw is much more intriguing as a competitor because of how young and how new and how vibrant it feels but if they keep being obsessed with ww me i think that's going to be a hindrance to them in the long term because they have so many things if they could do differently and right but kind of to your point one of the interesting things is we've never had a company where talent runs everything essentially i mean i know that they're all right but i'm saying like like one that has a tv deal like they're gonna have exactly we've never had so that you talked about booking like that's what's gonna be interesting to me because you you'll have cody the bucks kenny omega obviously chris jericho is going to have some sort of creative control over you know what his character does a the four things so it's gonna be interesting because that honestly you know that sounds like to me a a lot of these guaranteed creative control contracts the w c w had a ninety eight ninety nine a lot of cooks in the kitchen so hopefully they will have learn from those mistakes and the egos get checked at the door because if that turns into a situation where again like i said to many cooks in the kitchen thing you know we've seen where that goes and i think that's all great points but i hear i i couldn't agree more any of that were really kind of tweaks me is you say i'm not in competition and then you kind of saying you do the subtle shit like that the hammering the throne and over this kind of being cheeky and find that was not all oil designers you claim is you're doing these things sending she and then get upset when the ww put their lives on the says you wanna compete fuck you were sending an annex t shirts were sitting in a fall show against you in this is higher executives but hurry it happened what happened now the night you're gonna do a they're gonna do whatever tuesday night tightened remember when the show's gonna be in w you can just put in x t on fox sports south or one of those talk sports networks on the same at the same time you're gonna cry foul ball then you want competition if you as as the kids say dope request the smoke if you don't actually want apprehension smoke because if there's one thing that we've seen happen in wartime this is a cruise with the war chest to bring all the smoke you can handle in newark just got a little bigger today by going a little bit back in time amazon announced this morning on sports terrific originally broke a story broke it is and now the paul heyman he of be reigning defending beaches an eighty three weeks and they're they're so we're turning to the w w e and not on camera rules the returning as a the special i think it's called executive directors or whatever it's called oh the perspective brand so paul heyman given full greater control over overall see awful it is official coolest will be given focus controller smackdown as some recordings in doing this i read some more things i listen to this week's rcb today's that came very late but already listen to 'em meltzer today and i want you to i'm trying to find are either myself a transcription one check one thing until you got something or can't find the right now but area pw insider they talked about today the heyman things in the works for a while he's obviously been having influence on certain people but i'm seeing he's helped obviously there was there was this character alexa bliss rhonda rousing very hands on they've been having him just they've been trying apparently get him to be on board creatively for a larger picture since about february 'em and so this is kind of a deal is come slowly over time there bishops you apparently together in the last several weeks even working on the pre production of the plan netflix whole cogan biofilm had this little personal appearances plug it in the last week they quietly certainly a cancer the state's 'em the relationship is fox is pretty much the cows very shocking while we all jokes about and i will make jokes after this about chris off being literally the creative headed up w w e i think it's actually when you look at the reasoning why behind it they said this is to be building a relationship directly with fox at w a v e m take smackdown over there and for all the things you're gonna save america show up his ability to navigate in living those waters suddenly had walked away from the last twenty five years he was instrumental and being a liaison between turner and ww he's been instrumental in lots of other programs others in production credits up and down the viacom line including but not limited you on nickelodeon mtv the guys stayed in the television production game and that is where i think the that's gonna be a pretty good higher for them that someone who understands television is gonna be any minute with the passionate and understanding of wrestling who's gonna be interval i think that's paul hammering the same quality in the same type of newness to the product but let's get these jokes soccer's right here for moment well thought out opinion i'll tell you right now fan if i in the blood feud with you if you and i are kind of put out of business in wayne in twenty years i bring you on to run my shit that means i walked oh yeah and i mean at some point to like this rivalry got pretty vicious you remember that was the pay per view where a bishop bishop off called out vince make man back in ww days and basically counted out like declared himself victor over bits big ass like in a match and like other exactly so like i mean the the the vitriol in end this relationship over the over the years especially in the late nineties i mean it's a very interesting to see how this worked out and i know that you know they say this is you know nothing is on camera here but paul hey man his longest rock was there is involved is going to be on camera with ww in some i think they i think they want more 'em white has authority figure the total i understand that but i mean who are we kidding here before long you know something's gonna not be working and then out of nowhere oh bishops on camera or oh what about that first of all the fantastic television oh yeah it'd be great no i'm not saying that would be a bad thing at all original what would they do it maybe this version of the fucking work no but that honestly that's what i was upset about most while i read the news today and tomorrow oh hey minute and their best offer great on tv so but i mean that's i think it'd be waxing poetic about taxes well i like being on the staff about like wanting to see like eric bishop off a you know do the crazy things used to do because he was a black belt in karate and then paul heyman and all the crap he used to get into so i mean it's interesting but at the same time it's like can these guys actually do this job and i think the answer to that is yes because like you said with fish off on fox that is a that's ultimately a great decision to get them with the networks in a guy that has that experience and paul heyman is a guy who obviously those had a two run by they're not ron new creative there you've done it before so i think when you look at these to these two hires the great hires but the ultimate question is if they're both giving you know quote unquote full control that that sounds like a bunch of bullshit the me because who at the end of the day assigning their paychecks visit kennedy mcmahon and until that guy stopped breathing he's going to have control and ultimate sale what happens and i think but i agree with you but i think at the very public nature of these hirings like running in personnel assigned a big deal an i think that running the nation's hiring is speech to low confidence that he has in these two individuals and of course his fingerprints are gonna be all stuff like i wouldn't expect not to be but you look at what's up coming wednesday a except audio it'll just kind of hospitals play this guy has gotten excuse me i think it's a it's a good sign is even able to acknowledge that the the what a john morsi saying this way keller on the w w e m what is that noise that critics broken that at some point someone level they will say he's fucking right in this vincent will say something's gotta change so even having these people in place let's say they don't even full reign of that business to involve early there precedent has been set that has been made in the right direction and i think that i'm gonna go ahead and we hope you have a lien on your idea that we've seen paul heyman do this with the smackdown six six guys in create a story when they're able to do this because you don't what whole cooking on the property that's my one condition friday i'm burning everything down of the weekly spot that no yeah let's just so an obviously you know they wanna keep parading whole cogan in front of the saudi audience you know be know why you're hearing loss against with that but yet i'm bringing around there's no reason to do that anymore although you know he's gonna show up when that movie with chris enforced comes out so just go ahead and be prepared for that but look i i think this one thing that i'm most intrigued by will follow this and what i would like to know and find out and i don't know if we ever will but what is triple h his reaction all of this hey paula back the guy who runs the next e n you know it's a big part of the machine that is ww eat so what happens really hammond all i've got imagine that he he he is able to go to war on mondays and fridays i've got imagine that he is kind of found inex to use his baby doing very unique very write things down there and i think you know this is green is he gets now i know like man if he's made he's he's a big man to drugs man he's asking you that i think that this right now how is this the next time i think there's this evolution towards pun totally on tinder tours where paul's having seen the dixie anes i think recalled the see the the old man has advocated things first and if you ask them directly nepal it's too drunk align it's it's too much pressure paul i don't think i think of the suffering here's gonna be helpful for the long term future of the company or you wrap up here i don't keep each law i'm fucking exhausted do you are you bullish on how this is all gonna turn out to be just referring to you and me friends wrestling fans marks like a mother fucker how do you think that this is getting better is all over my first i don't think be a whole lot worse i am an apologist for the product i think that it's a variety show you find what appeals to you what's in it and i'm able to do that but i can't ignore the rest of my fellow senator saying they've got a problem with the product and and i could sit here and listen the things i love about the crossings i think we're doing really well but what's more important is that fee as it around it has to be improved and i think that you could see today even with just the even be on the jokes obviously we've all got knocked today the tenor of the ww universe if you we'll is more poses a piece and it has been a why do you remember when vince mcmahon broadly in w oh back and they did that whole thing where he was like i've got a pause in it from within i'm bringing back d n w oh you know like you see where the marisha her number yes okay so i kind of feel like that's what like this is happy that's what's happening either you know that with the man it wasn't a why what i'm saying i'm just saying like i feel like vincent man it's gotten to a point where you know ratings have hit like a weird like low in their habit of duty desperate things like bring you undertaker back and all this stuff and it's like i feel like by doing this he's like look there's either we do something super drastic or it's just gonna keep going down down down in like a nice little a you know ratings drop declined the just goes and goes goes until they're in a lot of trouble so i think this is one of those things where it's like we've gotta try something different these guys know the product in the you know they they've been my biggest competitors and i wanna bring them in and trying spice everything up and see if we make something work because a lot of the stuff that just isn't working anymore you know guys like lars sullivan continue to be producing continued to be pushed and it's like we don't see that anymore yeah and i think we will see you will see and i think ratings things much less much smaller problem watch me because that's how we watch wrestling in the nineties residents measure today 'em but i think it's gonna be interesting to see i i one thing i'll say right now i'm fucking treat they've got my attention i'm gonna be paying and i think everyone else's welfare to all the myriad of places they find you particularly talking about these three to offer them that's what i did a little research for the yeah that's a bad game we did say a live pregame show and on the radio in atlanta i'll get a all the partners here in a second we did they alive post game it was a certainly a roller coaster of emotion we are the mouth of the south podcast talking all things atlanta united a we do a radio show on atlanta sports x a one oh six point three fm twelve thirty aimed at seven pm on wednesdays an i can't say anything really about this but i'm working on a project right now an palm knows what this is an if it actually does come across i am so excited about it i i i cannot stress enough how awesome is going to be a if we could say a lot about it i know palm would be just as excited as i shared the new in kind of a off a podcast in a an off the record's so that that's something at sanjay franco's where you could find me on twitter and 'em at emo ts podcast so the mouth of the south and i just i guess one last thing about all this palm per me eric bishop off just played be most incredible twenty plus year long time i've ever seen in my entire life eighty percent of have it like it's one thing for ruse to tell stories about the old days but the whole thing for air fucking dish to talk about the fighting with me as the boy i mean it's just both of the shows go forward 'em sam thanks coming on man really appreciate it in the product you're talking about dope an i he promised right now if he does it off the ground i'll be taking it all my 'em everybody in the south chips in playing the narrative in spot on that show you'll be yeah oh i hold that thought like record these these are all really great thank you for listening everyone will be back early next week because that india has decided no longer make free agency the more the the the the baseline tribute fandom listener no india creatives you should start at midnight and that's how you knew who real fans or who's talking about a straw so trade one but now they moved the start of free agency back to six pm on sunday so do you de pod will be recording at eight thirty pm at night and he currently there's gonna be some

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396: Fearless Edition

"Winning the following podcasts contains fs followed buttocks. This week's episode of the scathing atheist is brought to you by hymns my sheets Rock Adam and Eve, and by exploding tree insurance. because. Holy. Fucker his supporters stupid. And now the scathing atheist hey, there this is Jay early sixty six letting you know that as a twitch streamer and moderator for Apex Legend Ex Cutty the Internet has proved to me that we didn't fact evolve from filthy monkey men and women. Some of us might be going backwards knock it off. it's Thursday September, seventeenth and its Constitution Day. Yeah. So we double checked nothing in there about not wearing a mask. It quite a bit about voting though good deal. Illusions. Bosnich He thin right in from presidential debate podcast host Joe. Rogan's New Jersey Cincinnati swing state and Georgia. This is the scathing atheist this week's episode John Macarthur Calls Her Bluff David a r white is going to have to give away half the money from my free trial at your flicks for heath fifty nine. Wow, you're stupid this works every month at g mail. and Dan for it'll be here. In case the show didn't have enough middle age white guy voices but I the diatribe. The conservative Christians I know are the most terrified group of chicken little mother fuckers I've ever encountered. Riley tells them the atheists are coming for Christmas and they post armed guards by the Nativity scene on their lawn, their politicians out of the word socialism, and they suddenly hiding under their bed from their own access. I'll fucking healthcare their preacher tells him goat monster is going to torture that ghosts that operates their brain levers and they give him ten percent of their income in perpetuity to make it stop. For years, I've had to be the skeptical voice of reason as I'm sure many of you have had to be reassuring my religious relatives and friends that no, that doesn't cause autism. Count regardless of you capitalize your name and facebook will not take ownership of all your photos bucking midnight. You know I'm always the person saying it's not as big a deal as you think, and I've been correct with one hundred percent track record on this Kinda, shit? So I'd love to think that that would earn me some credit, right? If this pandemic is proven anything to me, it is that that is not the case the most paranoid people I know are all but universally ignoring this very real crisis the same people that were terrified of a bowl of when the nearest case was five thousand miles away. These people with more practice being terrified than anybody else I know. They cannot be bothered to give the barest hint of a shit about a legitimate crisis that's already killed more Americans than World War One. The Vietnam War and Trans People using public restrooms combined. And I sit huddled in my fucking house having level yard twice in the last hundred, eighty, six days desperately pleading with my in-laws you know maybe opt out of the bowling leagues in Turkey shoots the year I can't help but marvel at the role reversal their brains are so primed to be terrified of every little thing and yet here they are in the presence of a circumstance that legitimately marriage their fear and they are fearless to the point of Stupidity Y. It's tempting to explain this away by pointing out the lifelong existential dread their religion forces upon right like demons are battling for their souls twenty, four seven, they could wind up in hell. Even if they're good, almost everybody they love is probably had in there. The great tribulation is perpetually right around the corner. You Stack all of that Shit on top of the political angst that conservatives are expected to shoulder. The Caravan a rapist emigrants the impending rise of Sharia law unfettered gay access to wedding cake, and suddenly you've got to imagine like world threatening events just become a background right but obviously, that can't be the explanation because they have no trouble whipping themselves into a frenzy over imaginary shit even now they can still fear. They do still fear and some of the shit they fear is even real, but they don't fear this. While tell you what one rule of thumb that I find always comes in handy when you're perplexed by Christian behaviors to ask yourself could there be a sinister explanation for this. And it turns out that in this instance there is. See not like Christians just spontaneously decided to ignore this threat, they were told to ignore it. They were ordered to ignore it by the people at high who speak for the author of the universe ignoring this threat was handed to them as a test of their faith, and as long as you don't have any humanity or compassion under the Christian leaders pushing this like damn. The virus full. Speed ahead attitude. It's easy to explain why their whole thing rests on their monopoly over your fears. Right? You're supposed to fear Hell you're supposed to fear Satan, you're supposed to feel the secular world beyond the protective walls of this church. You're supposed to fear eternal damnation and sin and the end of the war against Christmas you're supposed to fear the things that your church made the fuck up. Right because imaginary shit is the only kind of Shit, can protect you from. If you wake up for your children's souls. You're preacher can do something about that or the very least they can. They can do as much about it as anybody else because souls don't exist. But if you're afraid for their health, the preacher is useless. Now being used as obviously isn't enough to dissuade a preacher all by itself. Right. But the pandemic is especially problematic because it isn't hopeless. You know somebody will say was from this threat but the savior in this instance as in all the other verifiable measurable instances will be Religions Arch Nemesis Science. I mean religion I'm sure we'll still take credit for it eventually they'll thank God for the vaccine without a hint of irony but they'll know they were bested and they'll know that we'll know they were bested. So what do you do right when you know you can't win the contest you pretend it doesn't really matter. You downplay the stakes from the beginning you make it clear to everybody around the you really care who wins this one. You're not even really trying very hard for this and to make that stick. In this instance, you have to start pretending the whole threat is overblown early on confident that science will save the day before it gets bad enough for your homicidal bullshit to have broad consequences rate. So their instinctive dodge was to say, sure. Pandemic killing thousands of people a day might seem bad. But when you compare that to the battle for your everlasting salvation, this is really just a scrimmage. Covert. Suck. Sure. Would it's nothing compared to burning in Hell Fraternity? and frustrating and indeed deadly as that dodge. Yes it's also an admission. And it's an admission were celebrating. Think about this, we're in a fight where our opponents build a need to start making excuses in advance of the match. Something tells me that's a good sign. News within. Joining me for headlines Tonight are the ignorance and sedimentary metamorphose heat then right and alive Bosnich fellas. Are you ready to rock? Let's do this schist. I. So much better than mine. I just wrote I. 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And now back to the headlines in our lead story tonight, we have a quick reminder that there are no types of stupid that trump doesn't embrace, and in case anybody had forgotten about that. He went full goddamn climate change denier on Tuesday and declare he knew better than all them scientologists with there test tubes in their bleachers during a president about the eight of the country are. So that's on fire right now trump dismissed the. Unquestionable role climate change is playing in these ongoing disasters and well, actually quote well I. Don't think science knows actually and actual quote fuck which is so crazy. 'cause he was up there with scientists right? Like Yup when your shitty uncle says that at Thanksgiving, which by the way his canceled this year because of the plague caused, he's not sitting next to the guy who can be like, Oh, do you want to look at my chart? Chart. The guy that guy was also like a takeoff that lab coat Mr President. We discussed it. You're not allowed to have a lab coat taken off. Poke. This casual dismissal observable fact took place on Tuesday exactly one day after the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration declared twenty twenty to be the hottest summer ever recorded in the northern hemisphere even though it's technically not even over front other fucking week during a briefing about the wildfires in California. Trump, of course is busy saying that the wildfires are there because California. Doesn't sweep their forests and upper whatever bullshit he's trying to sell and California's Secretary for National. Resources, whose job is to know this shit push back pointed out that global warming is very much a thing according to all of the science and he adds quote if we ignore that sciences, SORTA put our head in the sand and think it's all about vegetation management. We're not GONNA succeed together protecting Californians and quote and trump's jaw dislocating response was quote. It will start getting cooler just you watch and quote focus happening I think he's practicing for burning in hell with his father he's. got. There's termite everywhere. You got to sweep them. So no in response pro foot rip trump skull open and fed him his own atrophy fucking brain while the room and indeed the nation cheered him on with gleeful abandon. But then he like he blinked really slow and he was still in the room and question it just been asked realized what he wanted to do but he demonstrated some super lucien restraint opted instead to simply say quote. I wish science agreed with you and quote, and of course that brings us around to the Dome assery we started with wherein trump well actually's all of science. Sorry. What I was blinking really slip. Know obviously this isn't the first time. Trump has dismissed the consensus of science in general or climate science. In particular, he'd been president less than six months when he wiped his ass with the Paris climate accord and his rollbacks have environmental regulations will probably eventually beat out as corona virus response in terms of body count, and at the very time, he was explaining how he couldn't hear the scientists La la La Democratic nominee Joe. Biden. WAS Managing to speak in coherent fucking sentences right he was also addressing climate change with actionable goals and a proven track record of the fucking science and shit like that. But let's be honest with God. Damn. Bar is at least when we compare the two. And Hey if you need help scientific, American has no. Yes. This is amazing. First Time In. Seventy Five We really just wanted to do picture of birds but. I can't believe we have to fucking do this was their cover. And in Macarthur Grammy Cova News California Pastor and police sketch of Mr Peanuts. Great? Grandfather John. Carter. Saw Noah's challenge. If you go to let some people spitting his mouth and raised him a giant indoor church gathering in defiance of orders. Again again has. Least according to my neighborhood. Covert is a hallucination that only about a third of the country is having an everyone else is living a totally normal life or dying of it Yup. Okay. Well, you set up like a poker metaphor and there's no cards in this poker game. So we call. We get to spit your mouth and that's exactly as and I'm still social distancing. By the way just open your mouth and wait I'll hit it from six feet eventually. So regular listeners to the show will remember macarthur for his constant efforts. Fill a giant room with too many people in California since the very beginning of the covid nineteen crisis or perhaps as I mentioned from a few weeks ago when he used the existence of CO morbidity, disprove the existence of covert saying quote there is no pandemic and quote it's gotten to the point where Christianity is as much defined by pretending real should as big as it is by pretending fakes should Israel. That's true. It's true. So in spite of being fined a thousand dollars for violating signing laws and. In spite of a literal judge's injunction against meeting endorsed last week. John. Macarthur's church went ahead and met and doors again this week posting. Yup photos on twitter of hundreds. If not nearly a thousand worshipers sitting right fuck next to each other and I love how that's fine happened for the. Church put up a sign that says, it's your fault. If you come in here and get COVID, we're not responsible. So. Into this county taped up notice right under that sign that says. You are responsible. That's illegal. Here's your bill for thousand. Dollars. One thing about the story. So MacArthur actually began the service by reading out loud the legal restrictions that are on his church so that everyone there would know they were breaking the law I guess, and then he added quote. Obviously this is not constitutional but more importantly, it goes against the will of the Lord of the Church who calls us to gather a man. And then nobody. Nobody said Amen. So then he said, so look the person next to you and say I don't know who you are, but I'm so glad I'm sitting next to you and real quote she's and say a quick because the clocks ticket for all you mother fuckers. She's how. And in the cutting Pledge News Ice Donald Trump, technically a grown adult of. Four years. Failed a kindergarten oral exam last week. During a nine eleven memorial service in Pennsylvania, he couldn't make it past the pledge of allegiance without embarrassing himself now. To his credit, he was able to do the part with his hand on his chest, which is tricky and that's tripped him up in the past but he was not able to make it all the way through the entire thirty one words of that kindergarten. Him and he failed it the best way possible. He left out the under God part. And what I love about this is that this was the thing for someone. was sitting at home because of the plague trump caused watching this in between news breaks about the world being on fire and they thought to themselves Ainu but forget to wish Jesus, cheers during the American prayer. Young Voting Joepat. Maybe he'll lose one vote. Great. Normally. This would be a complete non-story for everyone except a few insane Christian people like you just described and also every homeroom teacher I've ever had in school demand at big deal about that but the timing was just too perfect case anybody missed it trump accused the Democratic Party of being evil godless Muslim demons for removing the words under God from the pledge during the Democratic National Convention last month they did not that does not happen. There's video of the standard Christian jingoism chant happening during all four nights of that convention. But now there's also video of trump trying to mumble along with the pledge. With his tiny little speaking aperture restricting his airflow, and then just completely stopping for a second when the under God part happens it's not clear what the explanation is but. None of them are good that I can. Either he actually forgot the lyrics for that part and tried to be the guy pretending to go along with the song couldn't do that part or he's secretly atheist and didn't figure he'd be on camera while standing on a stage in front of a news crew at nine eleven memorial as president of the United States or his attention span literally Max out at twenty two. What else? Right yes supporters are stuck with. The at one or dumber than the average five year old and the right answer is both but they're not allowed to admit either it's pretty fucking great. It's a good day for us. And in air buffet and be as above news both author bath. Them. Author Forbes Thirty under thirty marketer and man who looks like he always. Won An argument with himself in the Mirror Frederick Joseph. Took to twitter to complain about an Airbnb he stayed in last week because it was run by Satan. Well. Ok. But to be fair when the GPS directions kept telling him to turn down, he should have seen that coming. That's on him. So here's the tweet that he sent out to ninety three thousand followers quote. We just drove three hours, my eight year old brother for a getaway and the house. We arrived at ended up having seemingly satanic items and stuff for witchcraft rituals. We had to leave because my brother and the rest of us were frightened but at Airbnb won't refund me and. And Luckily, he included photos of Said Satanic items which include a photo of a lady with her shirt, not on a tiny statue of Baffin Bay and a wind up toy of a dog fucking elating. and honestly, it's probably good that that wind up toy was there because it clearly distracted this guy from the copy of Pale blue. Dot by Carl Sagan that was right behind the. L. Yeah. Now, for the record, the host actually offered to remove the offending items but Joseph insisted on a refund which he was granted due to the nudity in the picture which he had failed to mention to airbnb his original well I. Guess he originally just emailed that there were which is and Satan at the house he had rented and waited for the money to his credit card. Yeah. There's also a picture of an outdoor tub like on a porch in the listing, and my favorite part is the reply tweet from this guy's friend that says, the outdoor tub is convenient for bloodletting, outside and washing away the. Man, that makes those commercials so much more sinister right does. Also means his friend is familiar with what's convenient. He's thought about that before. Yeah. What other thing about this story it seems that Joseph is only worried about Satan. When he doesn't need his help attacking political opponents. So for a guy who could not possibly stay a second longer in a house with a wind up toy the Church of, Satan pointed out that he actually did tweet it them and request them curse trump in two thousand seventeen. So he might not stay there but he's willing to network with the goat deem right? Yeah. Does not prejudice. 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That list of crimes against humanity that the trump administration hasn't been credibly accused of is getting really hard to see with the naked eye And since they're so much shit I could be referencing when I say that I suppose I should specify that I'm thinking specifically of the whistleblower complaint that an ice detention center in Georgia is performing mass hysterectomies on Spanish speaking detainees. This allegation comes from one dawn wooten who filed a complaint on Monday alleging quote joining medical neglect and quote like refusing to tested symptomatic detainees, falsifying medical records and failing to take minimal precautions to keep known cases of Covid nineteen from spreading. And as if that's not terrible enough, the complaint also includes details of one doctor at the facility that's performing an abnormally high number of hysterectomies often on patients that said later that they didn't understand why they were getting the operation or even what exactly was happening. So. Yeah I not. I try to mix in a joke here and there, but holy fuck there's a point where I just can't bring myself to summon upon and forced sterilization is a way over that line. The complaint quoted several unnamed detainees interviewed by an advocacy group called project south including one woman who said quote we've questioned among ourselves like. He's taking. Everybody's stuff out that says specialty. The uterus collector and quote and another who summed it up by likening the center to quote in experimental concentration camp end quote. Now. At this point, we're only talking about allegations though there are similar stories from several detainees so far the reports don't mention any physical evidence. So sure there's no way to know at the moment if this is actually happening and to what extent it's happening but regardless of how this shakes out, we've reached a point where our government you know the one we pay for is accused a form of genocide and our general conclusion is yes that does sound like our government. and Oh in case you're wondering yes there Irwin detention facility were this is happening is less than seventy miles from my house just like the Ahmad Aubrey shooting the Christian leader who slapped reporters asked that we talked about last week and two story about cops shooting at a car full of kids that you probably didn't even hear about because all the horrible shit down here drowned out because the universe has conspired to remind the world that I live in the geographical asshole of America. So after a heavy asked humorless story like that you some kind of Good News Alec, far and wide, and the best I can come up with US law in Queensland Australia that priests now definitely have to report child sex abuse that they hear about in confession though there's no word. If that counts ship, they're guilty consciousness tell them about. Also International. Pariah. An man for lady. Chore Stephen Anderson Finally Got Kicked off of Youtube y'all. But if that isn't enough to cheer up I, get it. So one last piece of good news if I ever snap and go anti misogynous Superhero, it doesn't look like I'm GonNa have to put much mileage on the twin mobile to make a difference and would that fantastic story prompt hand things back over to know heath and Eli. Thank you Lucinda. Next up in headlines. We've story about Jesus Christ Moses Nat, Turner and candice. Owens ooh, and of course, the only person who could connect those dots is presidential candidate Kanye West. That is true. Yes. Here's the the yarn between those push pins. Can Tell. Konya is quite certain. He's the reincarnation of an important historical figure, but he can't seem to decide on which one it looks like he's got it narrowed down to either Jesus Moses Nat Turner? But. Possibly combination of all three and also he's a big fan of candidates owens. Who is horrible. We'll look I mean he's at least as much reincarnation of Nat Turner is presidential candidate. So why the fuck not. Maybe, you can run for reincarnation Moses. Yet honestly that's so much less dangerous than his current plan. Bring. Wave Pool turn it on when he waves his hands fun for the whole family. Absolutely. So as We know Connie is running for president of the United States. Mostly, in Oklahoma, one of the only states where he's on the ballot and with his campaign trail being pretty compact that gave him plenty of time to be the physical embodiment of cognitive dissonance this week as he has want to be. On one side of his brain. He's fighting for the black community, which is great. But on the other side, he's a Christian fundamentalist who thinks he might be. Jesus and recently performed a Sunday service concert from the middle of a lake in Georgia appearing to walk on water and the videos pretty amazing. He walks out into the middle of this lake to meet his Gospel Choir and he's he's trying to do this big dramatic entrance and be all magical but his kids are angrily walking on the water within. Open ramp just below the surface and they're my fucking favorite. It's the best. He's like behold it is I kanye and shoulder checked by my six year olds wonder. Okay. You got me there. Each you got Daddy. So, last week, the two sides of Konya is brains smashed into each other never and he started tweeting about it i. he refused to make any more music until he released from his contract with Sony and universal adding. On God in Jesus name come and get me. Skier Emoji. No idea about the last part, but the message seems to be that lots of musicians in the black community are making big money for mostly white executives. That's when he described the music industry as slavery and declared himself both Nat. Turner and Moses of the Bible you know for helping free slaves I guess and it's a little grandiose. But again, there's an important message in there but then he completely ruined his good message by tweeting. Thank you candace Owens, recommending her new book about how the Republican Party is super helpful to the black community and that was right after Owens didn't interview with blaze TV and described the affirmation of transgender kids as the literal work of Satan. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Turns out. It doesn't really matter of Konya cleaned up graffiti earlier in the day. That's not. Yeah I mean to be fair saying that you're freeing the slaves by fighting for a bigger chunk of your millions of dollars while throwing the most vulnerable kids in our country under the bus is a way better representation of the Republican Party than an elephant? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if we can get that in a single cartoon but. Yeah. So this is what happens when religion worms its way into politics you get someone Connie a billionaire literally a billionaire, a huge platform and good intentions generous split. Some good intentions. Then, he becomes a fundamentalist Christian and starts hanging out with that group of people and whenever he starts talking about fighting for racial and economic justice. Those people tell them about how Donald Trump was chosen by God and he gets all confused and he starts wearing safety slippers for a toddler and endure. His heels get hurt because the slippers are way too small yacht neural between trump and Connie I think we need a salary cap on presidential candidates for a few years a some good all the snow. Just all of them. And and you gotta be creamy in May News. In today's terrifying landscape of misery and bad news, sometimes, it's good to sit back and be grateful for the good things in life like puppies, marshmallow peeps, and Ukrainian homophobes who blamed covert on gay people getting covert. Yeah and just for the record that's by far the most coherent section of vision. So listeners may actually remember Patriarch Filaret of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church who blamed the pandemic on gay marriage saying the virus was. God's punishment for the sins of men the sinfulness of humanity. I mean same sex marriage and. The marriage part these focused on. I guess filaret spent a little too much time thinking about gay marriage for God's linking because his church confirmed that the ninety one year old has been diagnosed with cove it on facebook this week saying quote. We informed that during planned testing, His Holiness Patriarch, filaret of Kiev all rush Ukraine tested positive for Cova nineteen. Now, His Holiness Bishop is undergoing treatment at a hospital and. The only possible conclusion here that is that he was secretly gay married. Oh yes. So I know that all of us here the scaling atheist are wishing filet of fish all the best in his recovery. Just, in case, the ninety year old doesn't beat this thing. These things happen Pranzi. Sure. He's going to be greeted by God and her life partner at Purley. That's GONNA be Awkward. This you're GonNa be our lawn gnome. Amer there and in broad side of a barn news tonight Christian pollster George Barna been making the rounds to s C listed hate group will have them desperately blaming the relative lack of Christianity, for all the national problems that Christianity has created and it differed from the suggestion that we end partisanship by all becoming Republican only in that, it didn't rise to that level of theoretical effectiveness. Yeah. Obviously he wants us to put our right hand in and take our right hand out way before we all joined the theocratic ethnic state he's in charge up. All right yeah. Absolutely agreed Eli. Republicans should all take the Gum Jabbar tests from doing Go. To votes gay fear is the mind killer. So, let's start with his recent appearance on Washington. Watch where an ambulatory hate crime Tony Perkins invited Barna Dole Pine on why everything is so inescapably terrible under the leadership that they advocated for and continue to support compared to anyone else who has ever been in charge of anything ever and Barna explained that it was because America's profound spiritual deficiency. The wildfires pandemic, the racial tensions, the catering economy, the civil unrest, and the naked. That have characterized the most evangelical administration in American history. Is because it wasn't Christian enough, and thus the solution to those problems obviously is to the exact same thing. They did to stoke all the problems in the first place but harder he might as well say, not enough gender reveal parties. So. Bardo was surprisingly candid when he followed this up on wall builders live a show hosted by anal fungus removal specialist, David Barton Hey, I'm tied with him when it comes to being honest about what is professionals during that. He pointed out that if you want kids to buy the kind of Bullshit Christianity is you really have to nail him down before they can out think the Evangelical World View Yeah quote. A person's worldview is going to start developing at fifteen to eighteen months of age intro. We'll be almost fully formed by the time they reached the age of thirteen and quote. Yes. Oh. Yeah. He just straight up admitted by the time they can like name objects in picture books and Stack Rings from largest to smallest you have missed your cognitive window. Okay. Well, this is why I made sure that there is both a zip line are and a mango nectar baby flash card for my son no matter how many times and rips them up I kept adding Mac. wrote them back on their. And finally tonight. In white wedding news yeah. Very very tragic tale of. Star crossed lovers. Coming to an, end. David Airway. Andrea. Logan White. The Matthew Broderick and Sarah Jessica Parker of the Christian stage. They're getting divorced. So. David cited irreconcilable chart face and Andrea cited irreconcilable permanent dampness they both mentioned severe lack of talent and despite making career of judgmental Christian movies with very toxic messages including one called marriage retreat. That's literally about of Divorce Yep. They're officially splitting up and going to hell. Oh, well, worry about losing your wife Davy. I'm I'm sure Jerry Falwell Junior House one you can use I mean. Yeah Dave I feel like your secret plan, for Christian, movie groupies is. GonNa Pan out like your. Don't. Think it's going to go. All right. Well, here's the announcement we got from David Air White about this tragic news. You know it's a very dark solemn moment in his life for so he fired up instagram work. I pray you're doing well during these uncertain times and each day you're reminded of the constant and unwavering love of the Lord. Okay. And now that he's firmly established, the twenty twenty is evidence of the loving God of the. Bible. We'd appreciate privacy in this matter that I'm telling you about on. The. Hashtag David's privacy. Well. Originally he tried to get this somber announcement on Chris Evans Media. Law But they couldn't. Whole thing. So. Divorce you know it's obviously a very difficult blah blah blah, fuck you. Founded cure flex fuck you. Yes. The pure villages responsible for God's not dead about how atheist philosophy departments band metaphysics from this country's academia I listen to the fucking newest boy. I had to hear a band in the park covering the fucking news boys and realized that I know what Song I'm hearing. That happened to me because of this, they also made brother white about literally taking up the White Man's burden. That's about doubt now in fairness pure flix also gave us revelation road two. NFL. Superstar. Brian Muslim. Moving call with mystical atheist war hammer. Yes. It through the air over and over it's actually moving car. He smashes ASS member also can't think about. The greatest moment in movie history but then they also made unplanned about the fucking Shop Vac with a wood chipper that they had planned parenthood's, and now David's asking for privacy and consideration. So. No. Now. You're a monster and a hypocrite. No, and that means we're going to go ahead and put thirty seconds on the clock. Oh really we rose David. They are white go. All right. Good. Does good. You look like somebody left their Owen Wilson. fucked on their dashboard. Producer writer husband who'd have thought the thing he'd turn out to be best that was acting. surfboard cancer. Physique uphill laundry that seems like it should have tipped over by. You look like you gave up the backstreet boys for youth. Ministry. Failed Audition for the middle of an evolution chart, you look like wet sandals smell David. So two faced people flip him to make difficult decisions. You look like you're not transplant is rejecting your face. Your your haircut looks like it was done with that shop back chipper from planned parenthood. David's Harris so bad. His Salon had to change their name to just okay cuts. I don't like your movies. Bad movies very little talent movies. Oh, I. got to go in. You're a filthy adulterer condemn specifically luke. Sixteen Eighteen, Matthew Five, thirty, two, and ninety, six through nine. Seven ten to eleven fifteen Roman seven to Hebrews thirteen fourteen and marked twenty, two among others. You, look like you tried to negotiate your parental visitations with Buca Shell. You look. Divorce. All right. Well done. So I guess now we are this headlines Has Andrea Logan White is to David because we're ending their he's alive. Thanks as always do Mogae actually we ended at amiably. So the that fucking analogy breaks down anyway we when we come back alive, we'll learn that the first eight books were the good parts of the Bible. PODCAST. Listener. 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Samuel, the start of a six book stretch to the somehow repetitive compared to Yada Yada Yada in this month's installment tub. Bible piece. All right. You guys ready for the next book of the Bible I. Samuel. No it's I. Samuel Right? Yeah. Because there's too well first Jamil one. Wait there's to Samuel's second Samuel right there are there are two well, there's two to one after each. Samuel. Then so two Samuel ones after each Samuel to know to Samuel's first and second both of which have a to So you could say twos on I, Samuel. So much. So. Okay. So what happens in this one? All right. So once upon a time and But why are you on my lap? You said once bar time. Okay, I did. All right. So once upon a time bomb. How Are. You guys, both comfy Yes I make a living right. So once there's this guy named Elkana who he had an over to wise just stop. Hitting no hitting. At he had two wives, Hannah hadn't borne him children and Pena who had Panini AH. Okay. Definitely. Not pronounced that way. You won't Melania in the sketch or not. Okay. Yes. Yes I do. Now Nia. My Wife's hand Pena. The time has come to make us sacrifices just sat at by I'm going to block the grass fish like is one wedge to Greg. Yes Possible answer to what she said yes. Yes. Grand Crack Joe. Hannah what's demand? All. Unjust. Just crying because I haven't given you. Any children are Kobe on just as good as children. Well, that's a weird thing to say to your wife Okay I'll tell you what I'll tell you. Here's an extra pushing for you to give the gun. You know because he closed up your womb. Gee. Thanks and and because your my favorite I I'm a standing correct hair. Yup You sure are. Would you rather cheated on you with a porn star where you give birth person? S Farish. All right now dry those tears and ask God for a certain. Okay. God. If if you give me a son. I'll are making your servant and I'll never ever cut his hair. He's Hopefully, hopefully. So please. So then he li-. Yes. No actually the the character is named. Eli. Oh. Nice. This is Eli. Yeah. So He's a priest he sees her praying and he thinks she's drunk. Please please. Okay lady come on on you get. But come on. This is a place of worship. How seriously so that you're drunk at the Tabernacle, cut it out. No, no, no not drunk I'm praying. Oh I I knew that as just you know, 'cause a pregnant lady drinking. Not Pregnant. Oh. No I I of course. You're not pregnant you're. Never. GonNa fill in anyway hey. Oh. Oh. God just told me Your prayers are going to come true Oh. Oh, they are. Oh Great. Yeah. So that I think should clear up any second now what what, what I think cheese can you people wear a sign or something? Right, we'll drunk mistake or not the next morning Hannah conceived a son and Soon Samuel was born. About that a son, I, bet you pretty happy. I sure am husband and just as soon as he's weaned I guess. You're going to give the son that you prayed to God. promised. So show you prayed for certain. So the. You just give birth to them and give them away. Well when you put it that way I I did not think this through. No, you don't. E-. E La Hey yeah. What's Oh? Hi, it's I lady what I mean praying lady what's Hello Yes Hi. well, I prayed for a son and I got it. Oh, that is great. Young God God. And now he's He's. He's yours I give him to you. that. Thank you but we're actually pretty. You are so awesome. Oh, praying again the middle man you make blind people seeing dead people live again very much does not do that and you are so awesome and so gray it's like a whole chapter of this. Report and May you break your enemies into Haiti edit pieces. Okay. Right so so Samuel grows up serving the Lord, but he lies sons were sons of belie- I'll. Wait. What's a sons of? Isn't that neck I the guy with the donkey not no that was blamed both Bob Boyle is a standard for bad people. In Hebrew I think it just literally means worthless. Worthless. Got It. My son's my son's come come here. One second dead one second. We're just finishing up this loud and aggressive game foosball. We've been having a public spaces for the last forty minutes. We'll be right over. Yeah. You go down because you. Know, you're gay you're gay gay gay gay. Gay, Gay. Person Okay well, boys, it's your job to collect the meat for the temple today. So if you could try not to be the worst nice totally get a take that Bacon. Yeah we are you big and so much you're gay for. Her Gay. You're gay you're. Gay came to. Gatow. Baking okay. Right. But see Samuel Stimulus really good and serves the Lord where I thought Samuel was a baby. Oh Oh, he is. All Right Kiddo don't forget your little. Mom. Thanks Dad. All right. Now you screwed. As. A great kid you got there. Well, thank you, lie yeah. No Problem Hannah. So I actually spoke to God and you're going to have three more sons and two daughters. Wow, that is awesome. Yeah and you don't even have to give those ones away those. Yours. That's good. That's great. So we look through Your Voice Oh. Yeah. I always gay you. So Gang Your K- your thing ever how how will your kids doing? Oh, my my sons I. Won't stop fucking people at the entrance to the Tabernacle. So I'm pretty sure God is going to kill them. Really. Sorry to hear that Yeah Yeah Gay Gay you just fucking gay do. So that night, God appears to ally with some bad news. Ally Either Yes God I mean seriously as again. This is why we hire done a and needed to be me for the Eli joked work. Oh No. Yeah. It's a great joke job. They love it rolling in the aisles because it's your name. Okay. Are you God or my depression? Omnipresent so both great. Awesome. Thank you. What's up? All right look. There's no easy way to say this, but it's is sense. ooh Yeah. What about them? Okay. Look I don't say this lightly because believe me I have some experience in this area but your kids they're the worst though worst. Yeah. Yeah. No they they are so. I'm going to have to cut off your arm. All, my arm, really that sucks no no not really that's just a metaphor. Because I thought you were actually going I'm actually going to do is kill your sons and curse you that nobody in your house ever lives to be old. Oh Wow. That is way way worse and and I'm GonNa make sure someone else is the high priest from now on and your family is going to have to like begged for crusts of bread to live for the rest of your life and for all generations. WHO Any chance to get my arm cut off instead and afraid not. Okay. That is that is rough but but hey. For, you go had a copy of juniors book. Oh Thanks. Yeah. Had to buy like five, hundred, thousand these things I've got him everywhere Yikes yeah. Yeah. Yeah it's like I said I get. It was shitty kits. So, is he live fully cursed it was time for God to appear to Samuel for the first time. Tonight. Eli. Goodnight Samuel I'm sorry God is going to kill your sons and. Chris your whole family line it happens kid don't worry about it. Hey, you want this book. He gave me no. That is that is fair and his fair. Samuel. Samuel. Yes. I didn't say, ANYTHING SAMUEL Pretty. Sure just heard your voice said you said. You did it again? That's that's what I'm talking about. Oh. No you know what that must be. God talking to you really cause. super-duper sounds like you does doesn't. I mean, maybe like you doing. Cartman south park like really badly it's not clear. Okay. Everyone's a critic today. God, just. Telomeres servant and see what he wants. Sarah Sarah Getting here. This thing is hold on the button. That's what she said am I right. That's a nice right. No it's working I'm here and I'm your servant. Like this kid. Different voices for mine. At. Sarah at to anyway listen up a fucking hate ally I'm going to get in big big ten and if you tell him or anybody else I will kill you and your whole family you got is this really what happens in the Bible? Yeah thank God threatens a small child. Yeah. Bet Your sweet, ass it is. Okay. All right, stay fresh cheese bags okay. By. What. God One. Well. I can't tell you or bad stuff is going to happen to you and to my family. Does that sound like God to you know that sounds exactly like God kit. So yeah, don't sweat it. Get some sleep right. Okay. I'm nine you are. You are nine right now nine years old. Child. And with the promise that this story doesn't get less fucked up in the coming chapters, we're going to wrap for the night, but we'll be back next month with even more Bible piece. Before we lay me down to sleep I, WanNa remind you the after fucking boat, and if you're a listener outside the US that can't vote I, just ask you to bear with me for another forty seven days. Anyway. That's all the blessing we've got tonight but we back in ten thousand, twenty, two minutes with more game we want to be up for brand new. Shows, hot friend. got. Off. A seventy Mr and on Tuesday and then even Rahab this. 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ODS Ep. 20c Montana and Yellowstone. Bears. Bison roars. People are dicks. The Ultimate Aggie Camper.

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ODS Ep. 20c Montana and Yellowstone. Bears. Bison roars. People are dicks. The Ultimate Aggie Camper.

"I'm sitting on top of Super Volcano and that's really not a joke. I'm I'm in Yellowstone National Park. There's our third day here and I am literally sitting on a we're in the middle of what they call. A Call Sarah like a super volcano collapsed three no six hundred thirty six thousand years ago roughly and it's the third time it has exploded and collapsed before that it was like two point four billion years ago before that it was one point three or one point two billion years ago and then six hundred and forty thousand years ago so I mean chances are there's another six hundred thousand in years before this thing is going to pop but you know you never know they say it could explode any day or not for another million years or ten years or one hundred thousand years who knows but anyways it's great to be here. It really is beautiful. I'm sitting right now. Next to the confluence of sorry I got interrupted by some fly fishermen Russian. I was sitting right here on the confluence of the fire hole river and the Gibbon River which form warm to make the Madison River which goes a long long way out of the park. This place is absolutely amazing. I I saw this morning. We saw the families all but just you know just from my point of view I got to see real buffalo herds talking about herds that have never been hybridize bread with cattle and they've never you know they aren't they weren't imported here from on the park talking about real fucking buffalo herds that have been indigenous to this park since the prehistoric the historic era. They're the only buffalo herd in the United States that has continuously been in their area since prehistoric times and you think buffalo her. Do you think they go. You know there are several different herds. You'll see buffalo alone. You'll see him in big herds and I'll put pictures up on the instagram but this morning morning we got to watch some young girls fighting when a buffalo grunts and puts his tail eleven Paul's the ground new. We're talking about two thousand pound animal that can run thirty miles per hour. It's fucking impressing. You know I mean it's very impressive and they were fighting with each other and when they grunt it sounds like a lion roaring. I'll put it up on the instagram when you can in here it but it was cool. I was going to try to do this little podcast. DD Do every day or every other day that had service well. Let's talk about fucking service in Montana and Wyoming. When you're in the boonies there isn't any there hasn't been any and Ryan where I'm recording right now watching these two rivers? There's no service in fact. I'm going to take a picture of what I'm looking at while I'm recording and put it up on the instagram in the face he space so you can see what I'm looking at took that picture what I'm saying is there's there's no service anywhere you have to drive and even when you get it it's spotty they. They say Texas is big. Texas is roughly twice. The size of Montana. You know so yeah Texas is big but but everything is bigger in Texas. Montana has Texas whooped when it comes to views sky's in the river the fucking rivers here are unreal. I've never seen anything like it. They're all huge their full glacier water and snow melt but these rivers are some of them are smaller but for the most part like the big rivers that you see on the map are wide that can be deep but they're usually not much deeper than waist-deep in most parts unless there's a channel swift and cold it is a trout Salmon Walleye whatever steelhead EH fisherman's dream to be in Montana now right now. We're just south of Montana Southeastern Montana in Wyoming. If I were to leave the park like we're going to do later so that I can upload this bad boy get some service. We'll be going west yellowstone and that's back back in Montana so the state line is right after you get into the park. It's it's pretty neat but I can't even begin to describe this. What this trip has been like? I think I think the last time I came to you. We had fish the big hole river in Montana got a little place called divide was just outside of Butte and then after that we went up to northern Montana's Swan Lake Holy Shit the first night where there were camping and we're like hey. Why is everybody better down man? These people go to bed with booking tickets and hey you why don't so you actually stay up and enjoy campsite instead of going to bed before the sun goes down and then I looked at my watch and I'm like you're the dumb ass because it's eleven o'clock at night and it's still daylight. That's how far north we were. We were damn near Canada. The days were like twenty hours long. There's like four hours of DART. Maybe five and that was amazing plays. Hell if your sleep but you know it was pretty amazing that I'll get into some more of that before I get too far. I WanNa make sure you know that iron earn Antler fitness brings you episode twenty C of Outdoor scoped. My buddies over ironing fitness will get you hooked up. They address. There's twenty eight hundred ninety eight North Highway Twenty one already Texas seventy one six three number. They're eight one seven nine three nine eight hundred twenty one eight one seven nine three nine eighty one twenty-one anyone crossword is a completely different kind of fitness and it will kick your ass but it will make you stronger fitter faster more agile. It's working you know constantly varied movements different speeds functional movements. We're talking with things that will help you in your life as I'm standing in the middle of rivers fly fishing and hiking with my kids checking stuff out you know I'm I'm good. I'm not short of breath. I'm not you know I'm flexible because I participate in the activity we s cross fit and you can do that at your local cross Jim but if you live anywhere in or near will Texas north of San Antonio wherever it is Jimmy WanNa go to his iron Hitler fitness get you crossed on their again the number eight one seven nine three hundred eighty one twenty-one and the address addresses twenty eight seven hundred eighty north highway twenty-one boomer any Texas be tough like those buffalo. I saw fighting today disgruntled Boro Burr. That's that's what you'll be. You'll be tough like a buffalo that lives out on the planes leans in the valley and Lamar Valley in Yellowstone National Park. Oh man they're so amazing lots of baby. Let's a baby buffalo running around to lots of maybe I'm also going to Shin. Send a shout out unless you know that this episode twenty of of outdoor scoped is also brought to you by Cordell web design my Buddy Ryan Cordell has has designed my new website and helps me has completely changed how we do the podcasting how we upload episodes and how we update those I I I was kind of leery about the whole process because it was a big difference from what I was used to but he's got it down and you know when I have any problems I can shoot it over to Brian and he'll take care of it and he he gets get things handled pretty quick so he does web design and its core bill. Well Well Cordell C. K. O. R. B. L. Knows Ko L. Web Design Llc he can help you out. You can get your website. We're up and running. He can revamp it if you need them to. his rates are great and he's he's pretty quick on the draw with response when you have a problem and he didn't you deal with him. 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I'm putting up a video of each day of this vacation my family also you you know it'd be split up a bunch of videos and mix them down in you know it is a fuck of a challenge to get twenty or thirty minutes of video editor down to one minute but but I managed to do it and then put those two music and it's kind of a little cooler way to do a family to a photo video you photo book and people have been asking me how I do it and you just go check it out. If you're interested I can I can show your Iki you you can even help you with your videos and stuff like that. then new so there's also put up links to news stories and stuff like that you you can find those sorts of things and if you're interested. I'm probably am I saying and a lot because I'm sitting here by this river and I'm pretty distracted by this nature kind of a little bit but we saw old faithful on the fourth of July to be in star about the win sounds folks. You're going to hear some wind sounds. Try to edit those this out as much as I can but when you're staying in a campsite it is hard to find a place. That's quiet to record unless you go by yourself outside but people are Geck's you know we had we were at Yellowstone National Park watching old faithful and old faithful goes off like every hour or so. I can't remember exactly what the timing is but I mean it's pretty predictable. We watched it and they said it's going to erupt again at six forty nine. PM and we were pulling out of the parking tonight at six forty eight and almost on the nose there those old faithful just being faithful Ero- ups but we we sat down for the eruption before that and got to see were there early. You know I try to be very open minded and I try to like people. I really do are really trying to like people but some of you just fuck it. Suck suck some of you. People are just Dick's and yesterday the Dick's were mostly foreigners and I hate to say that especially on the fourth of July the United States I want to be you know I want to invite people into our country and let them be guests on the you know the birth of our nation celebrating that old faithful in the world the nation's oldest national park but their dicks we sit there and we have our phones setup to phone and every single person that came and sat down in front of us not on a bench but on the area where you're not supposed to sit tried to stand in front of us was somebody's speaking another language from another country. You know they were clearly international terse this Asian Indian. Somebody looked like they were from Sweden or somewhere. I don't know what they were speaking again and they were just so fucking route and their kids were rude. They walked right in front of us. Sat right in front of us. One point knocked our phones over we had to pick our phones backup and sit there and even though we got there an hour before this thing erupted instead of getting behind us and standing behind us where they were supposed to be they got in front of us and stood and sat and you know we were. We were mouthing off. We were like excuse us you know hello and they didn't care they didn't care you know so people are dix. I mean international tourists. Sometimes I think people come see our country and to and to be a part of our culture but then sometimes I think stay the fuck away. If you're going to be a Dick anyways it. Just throw that out there but there there is so much has gone on. Oh my God I can't even begin. I think it's been a week since I've done. This has been a week. It's almost it's been a week and Oh my God. I love your family and your kids but they could test you can test you but you know this is an outdoorsy type podcast. I'm GonNa talk about some things that aren't outdoorsy at all today but being the best thing about this road. Trip is being out in the woods being out in the wild. We've gone fishing in some remote places we have to have. I got hairspray with me right now. Because there there there was a bear in the camp the night before last on the ranger came around and was warning everybody. Hey there's there's there's a bear right over there. This morning we saw two bears. We saw a juvenile bear and then we saw a full grown bear black both black bears I when we drove somebody said look if you go to Lamar Valley early in the morning you will see a lot more wildlife than if you go during the middle the day when most people go so that's exactly what we did even though we got in late last night and I'll tell you what we did last night. We woke up and ask early this morning. I think it was four thirty and already already getting light outside at four thirty up here Wyoming and we booked looked it over to Lamar Valley. We didn't make breakfast. We made coffee. Nothing we pick some coffee up at yellowstone is cool because it is a humongous national park is got. I don't know how many different rivers lakes and streams mountain ranges valleys plains geysers the the geysers are everywhere hot springs. It is simply the most amazing park I've ever been to in my life it really is but it has little stores villages all throughout it so it's like once you're in the park. You don't even need to leave. Leave because there's general stores you can go to there. Are there's a laundry. There's several different campsites. There's different lodges you can stay in. They have guiding services for fishing. They've got tours. I mean all kinds of stuff. you name it. They've got it and we really early this morning and we drove out there. We stopped and got some coffee a little gas station along the way out here in the park and so elk a couple of different elk herds we saw a Fox we saw two bears will both thune black bears. We saw probably thousands of buffalo by the time we're all done. We saw buffalo's fighting. We saw baby buffalo several rivers. They've got waterfalls here. That will blow your fucking mind. I mean they are just absolutely breathtaking. there's the yellowstone river given river the file firehall river the Madison River the latter Lerma Erma River. I think is another one in more all within one park. It's unreal the temperature here right now. It is two thousand nine on Friday afternoon July fifth and the temperature here is high sixties low seventies depending on where you are this morning. When we got up it was low forties and last night for the force because we were the part for the fourth we went and saw little faithful but last night for the fourth it was so late when we got done fishing we were driving along the fire hole river and Bach and trout were just jumping everywhere they were jumping everywhere and there was little when we left the matic hot spring and the the excelsior geyser crater which I'll talk about in a minute we left there? We saw these little white moths flying over the water and we saw fish jumping everywhere. We were like Holy Shit. We've got to get on the water. We've got to figure out what those are and find the closest fly. We have to it and start fishing in at this point. I'm fishing ching my two oldest sons fishing. My wife is fishing so we've got four people who fly fishing and then my daughter is boring my wife stuff and she's fishing so there's five family members who are fly fishing now and so we all wanted to get on the water and we out there we start casting flies flies that look like these months and we're not catching shit. There are trout big trout jumping three feet feet away from me ten veto from one hundred yards away from me ten feet next to me and everybody had the same experience just repeatedly for an an hour and we were casting everything we had that look like those moths and then it dawned on me. They're not eating the fucking moths. They're eating. The mosquitoes and none of us had anything that looked like a mosquito. None of us did so so anyways. We got off the river. By the time we got off the river. It was getting dark. We saw a mule deer and that was pretty cool by the time we got the river. It was getting dark so we're like. Let's just drive to yellowstone. We'll get something to eat there. Instead of cooking camp since it's late because the bears are an issue and you have to completely really clean up your camp every night. You can't leave anything out. They won't let you even leave an empty water bottle. That's been washed out on the table like you can't leave anything thing out so because it was late we just figured hell. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA. We're not going to have to clean anything up so we just drove into West Yellowstone and we've got fireworks. There was a huge fireworks display in in the town of West Yellowstone. There was another one over the lake. I can't remember the name of that. Lake is it's just just outside of town and then there were little ones all over the place so the kids actually got to do or not do but see fireworks while we ate in the car and park and watch the fireworks but that was kind of a cool into fourth of July is to spend the day here in the first national park of the nation and then book. It's a West Yellowstone after fishing shing all evening and see fireworks it was it was pretty bad ass there has been so so we're going to go west yellowstone tonight. Uh and pick up many mosquito flies as we can and fish the crap out of this trial jump right in front of me. Uh Fish the crap out of those this evening save so yellowstone people are degs fourth of July. Oh God let me tell you something. I'm really trying not to be negative. I really am trying not not to be negative but aggies. I got a question for you. aggies out there and I love you just the same but I gotTa fucking now. You Got Jesus. You gotTa tell me you you gotta explain to me. Okay I understand aggies are big on tradition. I get that I understand that. AGGIES are very proud of their school. I understand that aggies want everyone and they're fucking brother to know that they're Nagy. I understand the aggies won all of their kids to be aggies and all their grandkids and gregory kids to be aggies and that believe every other school in the nation sucks. I understand all that I've been in Texas. All my life and I get the coltish family that surrounds Adam. Here's what I don't understand. We we pull into our campsite. We've been out all day we pull into our campsites. Take a nap and eat launch in. I'm not in that order and we have new neighbours in our campsite well. This is our third day here. We've been here for two nights. It'll be our third night. There is a couple pulling shit you not. They're probably in their late sixties early seventies. They're driving a maroon escalade. They have a camping trailer. Got Maroon accents on it. The license plate on the escalade is personalized customized aggie license plate. He jumps out. He's wearing an aggie shirt and aggie hat she gets out. She's wearing an aggie sweatshirt. The back of the escalate has aggie stickers all over and they have a dog that looks just like Reveille with them in their car. Where did you get out and I can't remember the dog right now? Is it sheltie no fuck. I can't remember and I actually really when I was a vet tech. I actually got to work on REVEILLE. Six came into the aggies were in town playing at the Alamodome and we were the only veterinarian clinic open in Reveille had a splinter in his foot and her foot whatever it was I can't remember and I got to hold reveille while the doctor took a picture and got to spin out so I know exactly what the dog looks like I just I can't think of the fucking breed right now and I really don't care but what is that like. We get it okay urine aggie. We understand you want everybody to know that you're an Aggie but do you really need your your car and your license plate and your shirt and your hat and your dog and your accents in your stickers and your spouse everything about you to be Maroon with am over it. Do you have no other identity. Is that your only identity that you have. I don't get it. I mean I am. I am so I mean I haven't walked a mile in their shoes. I could I have gone am sure I had the grades that I WANNA go. No I never wanted to. I never wanted to go there but people if you if you have a beef with me saying this call my hotline and Bitch me out eight three zero four eight four eight eight three nine eight three zero four eight four eight eight three nine call me and let me know what the deal is. I love you guys I really do. I don't have anything against aggies. Ladies and I welcome as many aggie fan fans of outdoor sculptures. I can get but I just don't understand. Is that okay so is this guy like is he is he is he an extremist like he was a Muslim. He would be the guy blowing up blowing bombs and blowing people. I love you know and trying to kill everybody and I locked Bar Lola. Every aggie like that is every aggie deep down wanting to be like just fucking doused Maroon every day of your life. I just don't know I don't know I mean I see Longhorn fans. That are pretty. You know it's not the same. It's not the same I see Longhorn fans who are very devout Longhorn fans but they are not like I don't see burnt orange vehicles with burnt orange license plates driven by burnt Orange Clothes lows and be vo in a trailer in the back. I don't fuck and see that nobody's pulling along hornby around like these aggies are running around with you know these dogs and whatever what are moving on on on a road trip we were it was a week ago. It was a week on Tuesday today's Friday so on Tuesday of next week. It'll be two weeks that we've been going and that's when we're going to be heading back is next Tuesday so we've got Saturday Sunday Monday to four days four nights really we're going to be here. How many times do you think in a week you can get to the point where you want want to literally throw your children on the side of the road and you don't give a rat's fucking ass what anybody doesn't it what I actually do that when my wife and I actually do that nobody do we talk about it yeah yeah and how? How much does it suck that it's it's now child abuse to pop your child across the face if they're being completely disrespectful I I remember I remember getting the Shit Slab of me when I was a kid? If I mouthed off and it was only a couple of times I did it. My Mom's hand came back so fast issue never bust in my life but she sure shit busted my pride and it was effective and I learned a mouth shut after that we can't do that. That's that's illegal. We don't do that in fact. We don't even speak our kids anymore because I found that really wasn't that effective but I think a good hard pop to the face right in the middle of some stupid. A teenage tirade may shut that shit down for a while and may shut down for good but can't do it. It's not allowed uh not allowed. There was so much other stuff. I wanted to talk about just things that I was remembering remembering and I was like I need to talk about the podcast. Remember that wind noise sorry about that kids. I'M GONNA try to cover up the MIC a little bit. Try keep some of that wind noise down I'm hoping to go out tonight with those mosquito flies and puts rainbows down this could really cool we went in several different fly shops over the course of the last week but a major win on keeping you covered protecting you because you're my baby you use Kobi's these are my babies and I have to protect you from the wind in the cold and the elements I need to look behind me fucking bear trying to eat me or mountain line stalking me because it you know because it can happen because yellowstone wind down. I don't remember what Oh sing at all. Oh we went us really bad ass fly shop expensive but bats flush up in this place called Edison Edsall Ed's I don't remember and still in Montana and called trout stalkers and that's such a great name because that's what you're doing you know for my fishing fishing my England friends who fly fish for trout. You're seriously it's like bow hunting deer. When you fly fish for trout you got to sneak up on the water water? You can't let them see you. You can't even let them see the shadow of your Rod. You gotta be quiet. You got a fish that fly exactly the way they they want it. You GotTa know what they're biting on. You GotTa fix it the way they want it. You'RE GONNA make land on the water the way they want and some of you impatient people who are we're just you know fucking sling lures and bait into the you know the water and just waiting for something to hit it and you're like why would anybody want to put that much work into fishing. Come Ah come stand in forty degree weather water in your waiters with mountains surrounding you in a canyon pulling trial out of a river and and tell me that you're not addicted immediately immensely and immediately addicted to love to trout. You'RE GONNA try to get back in try. do the buffalo again boo. You gotta go check my instagram. You seriously got to here. I've never heard a buffalo roar roar and it's like run but it's like a roar and they're mean mean mean. I thought of the other thing I want to talk about and then I lost it. Trout jumped was a little one when very big what was the other thing. I wanted to talk. Oh we got now. I think already talked about that. Yeah Yeah Ego. That's what it was so good. Buddy of mine said something the other day and it really it really like you know he was just fucking with me because we always fuck with each other and that's what we do. That's that's that's. That's how I know. He's my good friend because all we ever do is fuck with each other and put each other down and I know we're close because because we can do that I mean we've got into arguments stuff like that but you know I wanted to talk about this. Is You know as people who hunt and people who fish that people who are outdoors. We're pretty aggressive type people by nature you know I mean we we were driving through yellowstone today and I saw these people looking at the bear that was in the road and they look on their face was just like like this look of. Oh my gosh I just saw a black bear. A lot of them. Were people from other countries and other nationalities. They're like oh my gosh we. I just saw this black bear. You could just see how excited they were which was cool to me. You know I was like that's really cool well. That's how we get when we we would kill a bear. We'd kill a deer something. That's how excited we would be and it's not because we don't respect the animal we have. I have as a hunter and I know most of the people that I know personally that hunt and fish have immense respect for the animals that we have immense respect for nature and part of what we do is to not only to put meat on the table but to also oh hunt these animals and spend money that helps conserve the species and I know there's people out there that don't agree with me but I don't know I'll. I don't know what to tell you you're wrong when I say that what I'm talking about is confidence. Is something you you have to have if you're going to hunt or fish confidence is something you have to have if you're going to go out and only four or five day or fourteen day solo backpack or even didn't even with other people confidence is something you have to have when you go out on the big water in Baffin Bay. My Buddy Marcus canal is he's a captain. He's got to have confidence wants to go out there on the big water with people and risk his life and their lives he's got people's lives in his hands. He has to be confident. Confidence Infants is something you have to have the climb amount you know this is outdoor scoped. This is about all things outdoors whether it's hiking backpacking hunting fishing you know whatever you're doing outside ultra running rucking you know trail running bow hunting in the wilderness you. You've got to have confidence. I have to have confidence to do my professional job my day job to be an attorney. I have to be confident. I have to be able to say I know what the Fuck I'm doing and I could we do a good job and all others be damned and you have to have confidence if you're going to have any kind of public presence at all and as a host of a podcast gassed and I've got an instagram with followers. I've got a facebook. Followers are likes whatever you WANNA call it. I've got listeners all over the United States in the world. You gotta be fucking confident and I'm very confident. I know I am and I think sometimes that that does get confused infused with being egotistical having a big ego. Everybody has a certain amount of ego in their personality. Everybody everybody does and some people's is very toned down some people's. Is You know very unhealthy. Nobody likes them. Nobody can stand him because EGO's so bad some people. It's toned down so much that they have no. They're insecure. They have no confidence. I like to think of mine. Is I have enough of an ego where I could get some shit done. I may rub a few people the wrong way but ultimately I give anybody the shirt off my back back and I think that that's something we all need to recognize. I think that there's a lot of people that mistake a confident person who's sure of themselves for having a big ego and with me you know they taught us in law school. You don't say when somebody asks you what your opinion or you're making an argument. You say my opinion is or I believe that you say exactly you state. What your opinion is so so let me give you an example like somebody says okay that mountain mountain a seems to me to be bigger than mountain be and if I believe David they're wrong and I think that mountain be definitely bigger? I wouldn't say my opinion is mountain is bigger or I think. The mountain is bigger no you're we're taught to be persuasive to judges and juries. We're taught to say mountain be is definitely bigger than A and here's why that's what we're taught to do and so when you're taught to do that and your daily life and then you do it in your in your professional life and you do in your personal life on social media. I think there's a lot of people that wind find it thinking. Oh what a what a pompous self righteous egotistical ass excuse me and that's not that's not me at all and I think that there's a lot of people out there who come off that way who are just confident people. They're confident you know and I think it's important to know that distinction distinction because we live in the namby-pamby. Everybody's got you know everybody gets a trophy and everybody should get a chance and everything she'd be fair when we're fucking in where you know what sometimes it's a dog eat dog world and I WANNA help as many people as I can but I got six other people to feed. I got six EXP people to keep clothes on their backs a roof over their head to keep them happy. I'm going to fucking put you down. If you get in my way of taking care of of those six people there's that's just the way it is whether it's professionally or personally or whatever you're not going to get in my way of taking care of my brewed and I think right but you have to be confident to do that but that was the only thing I was going to talk about as I'm sitting here looking at the Choldera so the call Dera that forms yellowstone if you're on one end of it the other end of the crater because it imploded in exploded in imploded back down collapsed I guess US thirty to thirty four miles across and under it is rivers of magma way down under her heating up water sending up steam everywhere all over this part so you got these cold water. I didn't know this could be fishing out of this cold water river. They don't l. Let people do it anymore. Because it's illegal because it's not sanitary but they would pull a trial out of the cold water and then immediately dump it in one of the hot springs or something like that and cook it instantaneously and then eat it. It's not fucking Ballsy as hell. Is that not like the most awesome thing outdoorsy ever. Let me catch this fish and I'm gonNA dunk it in this hot spring and then I'm just going to eat it right here and there my daughter was like oh I feel so sorry I imagine you're a little trout and you're just swimming along and you go to eat something that looks like a good meal and then you have a hook in your mouth next thing you know you're dropped down to discarding hot water in your boiled alive that would suck good to be on the top of the food food chain out here. I'm not really on the top of the food chain because of a grisly comes over this little hill or a mountain lion or of course not lines. I think they say there's like sixty of them out here and you might never ever see one. This place is so huge but you'll see bear something sell two of them today. Just gotTa be careful. They showed an elk video of an elk. A full grown bull elk trying to destroy a little car to try to Gore a car and destroy it was shit I wasn't there was another buffalo that was near parking lot and was going after people in lots of people have been Gordon Killed and then they showed a video of an elephant throw in this dude good fifteen twenty feet up in the air. They don't mess around. If you go back and listen to the episode II genres on we talked about you know human animal encounters like that just go back and go to the website or you know what you need to subscribe to this podcast. I didn't mention that before because kind of off my game here a little bit but find your favorite podcast APP. I don't care what it is. I tunes android or Iphone Android. You can go to stitcher you can go to Google play itunes speaker. There's all kinds of podcast APPS. you can go to listen notes dot com find it there and you can spotify on spotify Google play. I think already said that and just just subscribe on your phone and then every time an episode is released it just POPs. It's up on your phone. You don't even have to go find and you can just listen at your leisure and your phone will automatically downloaded for you to or if you WANNA listen online go to. WWW DOT outdoor scoped dot com and listen there don't forget to follow us on instagram and like us on facebook space at outdoor scope for both of those and then we have a hotline eight three zero four eight four the eight eight three nine. I'm not sure when I'm coming back to you again. We're supposed to be here for another four days so service in the park spotty so we'll see how that works out but thanks for listening in and thanks for being who you are Dr thanks to all of you for that's what we were joking about this morning my daughter go my gosh. She's she's thirteen. If you had a thirteen year old middle school girl girl how they react to their brothers and she when we were in glacier national park last week she hit her head on the door like shopped in to the bottom of the door frame because she was climbing up the hill from a river jumped into the door for ambassador lassiter head open and we had to get her to where do we go cal spell Montana and get her stitched up Dr Awesome Great Job Big shout out to the urgent care in cal- Spill Montana and Dr Hill great staff great doctor he he was the T. One one thousand. I'm telling you this shit you not. I said do you anybody ever tell you get told I look like Tim Tebow in and I'm sometimes I get Bradley Cooper. I said but you look like somebody goes at the guy that played terminator. I said Yeah I said absolutely Robert Patrick. He also played Johnny Cash's dad in walk. The Line Robert Patrick's been in all kinds of stuff. He's actually the Robert. Patrick is an avid motorcyclists and he is the president at least he was a couple years ago. He may not be any more of the Booze Fighters Motorcycle Club and so he's he's pretty much about us and booze. Fighters is funny because because their logo is drinking club that has a motorcycle problem. That's that's fucking bad ass but anyways this guy. I told my daughter when we got done I said the T. One thousand Justice Sheila so I'll put a picture on instagram as well her getting stitches from Dr Hill and you can see see how much he looked like Robert Patrick but God this morning we got up at four thirty and we got in late last night so we'd go bed until almost eleven and then then we've got up at four thirty which was fucking hello worth it because we saw all those buffalo and the bears and the Elkin everything but the American bison excuse me and those suckers where you're close to keep talking about it. They are truly prehistoric. I mean if you really think about what advice American Bison is and look at one. They're fucking prehistoric. It's it's amazing. I mean it's just bad ass but we were talking about about life. What if we did sky? Having one of her fits for teenage fits in Siri Voice. I'm GonNa remember everything I said but it was pretty funny because I was like I hate my brothers. All of you suck you are or all so stupid and I wish all of you will die said to Oh my God you stink so bad. Why don't you go take a bath? Everybody hates you. You have no friends trying to remember some of the other stuff she says but we just went on and on and on about it and we had a good laugh. We had a good a good laugh doing serey teenage girl in Siri voice level. You guys don't forget finest on social media subscribe to the podcast. We

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Melting Ice, Raging Fires: Summer In The Arctic, Courtesy Of Climate Change

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

48:32 min | 1 year ago

Melting Ice, Raging Fires: Summer In The Arctic, Courtesy Of Climate Change

"This message comes from on points sponsor indeed. If you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash n._p._r. Podcast from n._p._r. W._v._u. are boston. I'm david folkenflik in this his on point lightning storms inside the arctic circle severe forest fires flaring flaring across the arctic. Those scenarios are unthinkable and the real now imagine ashland without ice could happen and soon the last five years have been the hottest on record but in the globes northernmost expanse melting centuries old glaciers and speeding the release of carbon into the heavens scientists are expressing alarm entrepreneurs are seeking advantage and military military adversaries are flexing muscle this hour on point the changing arctic climate and how it affects us all join us. What questions do you have about how the climate is affecting the arctic from its oceans to its wildlife to the recent string of wildfires for those who have visited over the years. What have you seen we can join us anytime on point radio dot org on twitter and facebook ad on point radio with us from amherst massachusetts is juliette brigham grady. She's a professor of glacial geology at the university of massachusetts and she's done extensive research on the arctic region throughout her career. She's also headed the department of geosciences which conducts research in the areas of global climate change in earth amex. Julie welcomed on point hi hi david thanks for having me and with me here in our studios in new york city andrew redken. He's the founding director of the initiative on communication and sustainability at the earth institute of columbia university for more than two decades <hes> he covered environmental issues and global warming for the new york times where i met him. He's the author of the book. The north pole was here. Andrew welcomed on point. It's great to be here so andrew. Let's start with you. You know the the last half decade has been the hottest on record in the arctic and it's received widespread attention. I'd say typically over the last year especially this summer c._b._s. News anchor arena nine offered this report june on the dire situation and that's a situation which has continued over the last two months nearly nearly half of greenland's ice sheet began melting this week after an unprecedented warm spell hit the arctic region temperatures were more than forty degrees above average leading to an estimated the two billion tons of ice loss so interesting just paint with a broad brush here. Tell us what the heck is happening up there warming. It's warming about twice. As fast as the global average temperatures warming the planet swarming greenhouse gases from human activities are now the dominant thing driving this and for for bunch it should of reasons summer simple summer complicated the arctic heats up quicker and greenland is a big pile of ice and these is weather systems move around you get these hot blobs obsolete air like we've had here and in europe they've had <hes> can move up into the polar regions and the surface of greenland melt now. It's been kind of overplayed played to some extent the media latch onto figures like it was melting across the entire surface of greenland. It's a true fact but when i was there when you're on greenland island you're on a chunk of ice. That's five times bigger than california and it's an ice sheet. It's about two miles thick at the top so it's like the frosting on a cake melting meaning it can get mushy but the whole cake is not melting and it'll take centuries for the full force of the warming that we're seeing now to start to sort of build a meaningful pulse from that and it's a hard it's hard question for scientist to figure out how long how long it takes for that to turn into many feet of sea level rise is an important question. It's always nice to hear. The things are being exaggerated not because i like exaggerations because maybe things are a little less dire even go a little bit more broad than that. We obviously lead with the thing that was about greenland england which is at once consequential and big you know and i do recall. I led with iceland a little bit. I recall his student at some point being say well you know. Greenland is really more about iceland. Iceland is really more about like land in certain ways but tell us about the arctic region more broadly. You said it's heating up faster than the rest of the world three. Why is this important. Why does it matter well. It's important for sea level because greenland. That's the thing that matters for sea level down on an antarctica. There's vastly more is that also is melting and they're now. Some new studies show that the signal of human influence on that is is becoming perceptible. These these are big chunks of ice they they've been there's been warming of the earth you know in a longer timescale since the end of the last ice age and it's hard to sort of say bingo this is us and it's hard to say bingo this many feet of sea-level rise in our lifetimes or like <hes> the so that's the greenland park the sea level part the arctic also so is tundra and frozen landscapes are melting first reported in that two thousand three and alaska the the <hes> they're the one permafrost becomes impermanent and all kinds of things can happen forests tip sideways. You get the fires that we've seen in siberia <hes> the boreal forest which is being ring of a bigger forests not let hundred like shrubbery stuff and <hes> the trees in northern hemisphere are <hes> up near the poles or this boreal area siberia if anyone who goes through siberia and fire right now. You'll see some pretty amazing images. I wanna i wanna play a clip now. <hes> from <hes> what's been happening just to give people a feel for what that new sound lights. It's the fires erupting. The summer across the arctic are said to have far reaching consequences and i want to play an excerpt from a from a report from july on the euro news network. The current french wave is a devastating cycle of cause and effect forest fires in alaska and within the arctic circle have just been caused in part by global warming third also contributing to its vast swathes of woodland or burning in northern extremes in russia the u._s. and canada an unprecedented wave of destruction in highly ecologically sensitive regions of the planet julie. Bring him gretzky <hes>. Let let's bring you in here. How let's start with the question of the fires ars and then we'll go more broadly. How unusual is it for there to be fires in northern reaches of alaska fires in siberia as we just heard from andy rifkin fires there's within the the arctic region well. There are normally are fires and various tundra regions but it's the sheer volume and extent of them. That's it's really becoming unprecedented. <hes> geologists are working as we speak to reconstruct what the fire history has been over the last few thousands tens of thousands of years to provide a comparison but certainly this is quite unprecedented and we're looking back to previous warm periods to to determine the extent to which <hes> the today's <hes> extent of fires are kind of similar to previous warm periods and trying to get a better understanding but certainly there widespread and and of course there's more infrastructure to get in the way of these fires today so you study as i understand it sort of broad periods of not human history but global history and thinking about these things right a period of something like a two point eight million years. Is that right yeah. I've been i've been studying the kind of the climate evolution of of the arctic starting about three point six six million years ago when the forested three point six and we didn't really have much of a greenland ice sheet back then were tidewater glaciers on the east side of greenland but but nothing like today and so how do we go from that forest at arctic into the one that cycles through the ice ages and what we're previous warm periods like naturally literally without human influence so so i what i like to do is in my work is really put today's the consequences in the perspective of what we know about the past and so what consequences do you see as things heat up at a more rapid pace in the arctic as some of the glaciers are surely melting <hes> what are the implications of that. What are you seeing in terms of this. Being part of <hes> you know unprecedent preston behavior or this being part of a normal fluctuation people often say hey the you know if you look at the the greater the greater trends of global global climate grand ups and downs and this is in some ways one could look at it in that context. Yes that's right. I mean there are warm periods and coal all periods and we've been in a relatively warm period for about ten thousand years but that was under a greenhouse gases was co two at around two hundred eighty parts per mil for most of particularly the last five thousand years and what we're doing now. We've already within one hundred hundred and twenty years. We're now at four hundred fourteen parts per mille way outside of the normal range of of atmospheric c._o. Two and and we haven't seen anything like this really since about three million years ago so this is why looking at what the arctic was like three million years ago gives us an idea that this is the earth system system is driving us toward this forested on glaciated arctic and consequences for antarctica so we mesure the sensitivity of the arctic system by looking at previous warm periods and then realizing that today the human induced most fossil use of fossil fuels is driving us now into what we jolla just call the pleistocene three million years ago and if we don't do something soon soon we're going to be heading back to the scene fifty million years ago with with different kinds of consequences. This is happening really fast. <hes> one story. I like to tell <hes> to get the context is that when my grandmother was born in eighteen ninety five c._o. Two was at eight hundred two hundred eighty five parts per mille when my parents were born in the nineteen twenty s we had around three hundred three rd three hundred and ten parts per mille and you know when i was born in nineteen fifty five it was only about three twenty and of course now with my a- as my children were born it was at three fifty and now we're at four fourteen so in the in a matter of one hundred and twenty years since my grandmother was born we've we've massively changed. The atmosphere and carbon dioxide is carbon dioxide and of course we're contributing a lot of methane and what's quite frightening to is what scientists scientists are now realizing. Those people working in permafrost is that there are new areas of abrupt thought of that permafrost that are releasing tremendous volumes of methane and c._o. Two abrupt thaw that that's much more rapid than the normal just thaw through the active layer across much of the arctic there a large areas undergoing rapid thaw and so this this information is is really new and and and very important to our the u._n. I._p._c. process and going forward because it means that we we really need to buckle down on fossil fuels in order to turn this around and he left him in the thirty seconds before the end of this segment of our show <hes> president trump announced. He wants to purchase green like he's gonna go. Get what what is what does that mean. What wh- what applications are there for what we're talking about well. It's microcosm of something thing that all the arctic nations have this kind of two sided approach their opportunities up there going forward and those countries that are already vying for the resources that are there a to. I think trump is just kind of a character of this broader sense that this is also an opportunity as well as a nightmare and we'll be talking about some of both the nightmares and the opportunities in segments to come. We're titus discussing the arctic of the consequences of shifting climate. It's drawing grave scientific concern and also great corporate and strategic interests join our conversation. What are your questions. What do you want to know about what already alrighty is being done to address climate change and the arctic. I'm david folkenflik in this is on point. This message comes from an points sponsor indeed. 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We're discussing climate change in the arctic and the changes transforming transforming the region as the temperature rises. You can join our conversation. What questions do you have about the changing face the arctic for those who study this area professionally what have you found for those involved in shipping shipping or other fields that cpr potential profits in the changes. Where do you see opportunity. Follow us on twitter find us on facebook on point radio <hes> back with us juliette brigham. I'm greg. She's a professor of glacial geology at the university of massachusetts who has studied the arctic in climatology extensively and of course with me in studio once more into redken the founding director of the initiative on communication sustainability at the earth institute at columbia university and former lead columnist on climate for the new york times. We're starting to get calls and we're getting a lot of comments online as well. <hes> brian schreiber rates on facebook arctic on fire. Just those three little words gives gives me the feeling in my face like i want to cry the feeling in my face but nothing will be done he writes. It's too late. We failed. We'll see it that our whether that's <hes> that is the case. Neil blanchard writes in another aspect of melting land is is that it reduces the gravitational pull nearby that raises sea level around it antarctic cl- antarctica's particularly important about two point five miles of ice that is pressing land under down by almost a half mile raising the sea level around shifting the bulge at the equator antarctica <music> is totally melted than eventually at the northern hemisphere will gain about one hundred feet more than the southern hemisphere. I'm gonna bounce that off our guests in a moment. I wanna give you the sound of what that is like. There's the sea ice at the north pole and it was only a few feet thick in two thousand three when my guest andrew redken stood on its surface and captured footage to document this excursion. Here's here's just a taste of what the sound of the ice kind of sounds. It's like a train there and that's cracking part what it looked like it was in that case it was the surging the ice flows like something to be miles across and they they're. They're moving. I i wrote a book about this. In two thousand six. The north pole was here because the camp we were on was drifting when we were at the north pole and we've been and the ice when when these giant plates it's of ice or rubbing up against each other they form ridges and that was what was happening there this it was like some of it was like the squeaking that you get when you take the lid off of styrofoam container but but like like magnified. I don't know how many decibels it was really startling and i turned to the scientists to stem tim stanton. The clip is on youtube and it said should we back up there. Were cracks. You could the ice under our feet. He said no. You can always jump over our crack. Okay pretty blase yeah and you know that that camp. They were setting this up annually every spring. Hang <hes> after the the north pole darkness ebbs and it's much harder logistically to do this kind of thing now because the isis more unpredictable. There's less much much less of what they call. Multi year ice that survives one summer and builds even thicker so that chief of floating size which is different than that miles high ice in greenland greenland and antarctica is deteriorated to point where in summer later in summer like around september. There's a minimum and that minimum could be maximum maximum pretty soon in terms of like pretty much open water across the arctic ocean so to me about that. I mean that is you know centuries ago. Explorers wanted to find the mythical northwest passage that would make it easier to go from the atlantic pacific and all this stuff what actually happens what things open up <hes> if those are open waters essentially well it's it's a huge potential time saver and money saver and fuel saver and greenhouse gas emissions saver for shipping if you can take a a new material and a container from korea or china north across the top of the world it's much closer to go to europe or the united states it's across the top then to go around the fat belly of the world and <hes> that that's one of the things that's happening in in two thousand ten. I wrote piece for dot earth. My my times blog called called arctic shipping gets boring that was two thousand and ten because there was now so getting so routine. I wanna play you know there are others that have apprehended this <hes> this possibility u._s. Secretary of state mike pompeo said the evolving climate in the region presents great economic prospects for those able to capitalize he spoke at a meeting of the arctic council in may the arctic is at the forefront of opportunity and abundance it houses thirteen percent of the world's undiscovered oil thirty percent of its undiscovered covered gas and an abundance of uranium rare earth minerals gold diamonds and millions of square miles of untapped resources fisheries galore and and it's centerpiece the arctic ocean is rapidly taking on new strategic significance julie. Tell us a little bit. I mean there. Are these opportunities right to to do these things. He's you know we've heard that there's the ability to save <hes> and to reduce <hes> you know carbon emissions into the climate. I'm at least compared by current technologies. If you reduce shipping distances and ships i'm told are a significant contributor to what happens here at the same time among the things that that he's talking about our untapped resources assume some of those are fossil fuels like what what is the what happens if we tap those fuels that are underneath the arctic that would suddenly be revealed by the melting of these caps yeah i think the opening up of the arctic is producing winners and losers and it certainly depends on in your perspective my personally i think we need to leave fossil fuels in the ground because we're already at a point where we need to extract the the remnants of that from the atmosphere in order to cool the planet on the other hand. There are people who <hes> only see dollars and cents and dr want to have access to though so you know we're we're seeing a land grab going on through the u._n. Process of the law of the sea <hes> different nation arctic arctic nations are trying to claim an extend their exclusive economic zone out into the center of the arctic ocean where now there's going to be no c._i. Since in summer and therefore be able to have the right to extract resources from there another thing that's happening with the c._i._a. Says it goes north is of of course the commercial fisheries are moving north and at least for commercial fishing there is now a moratorium that i think started through the arctic council that there will be no commercial fishing in the in the arctic central arctic ocean until we figure out how these fish are going to survive what what you know who owns what <hes> <hes> and and that's actually a a wonderful international collaboration but when when it comes to natural resources will probably have a very different game but that landgrab grab through the law the c. processes really an important one to watch <hes> you know we have <hes> another writer right and says we're going to be fine in our missions are down more than the signatories to paris. I think with the honest debate to is writing on the website is to suggest that emissions are down more than was required under the parisian a a cord. I see you nodding andy redken. Is that right and does that mean that in some ways maybe this is being mitigated in a wave and if the u._s. isn't a participatory in that deal <hes> gosh it's <hes> u._s. Emissions have been down <hes> they blipped up last year and they're on a downward track again but that's mainly because we're shifting from coal to natural gas for electricity production. The world still is on a rising path on emissions and we'll be for decades to come because the developing world even <hes> you know the countries that are poor then china india and are there surging and they are saying we need to develop we we own whatever carbon space is left in and the atmosphere and so the world and the other thing. That's really hard that makes a super wicked problem is when scientists put a long time ago is c._o. Two carbon dioxide the main heat trapping gas is long lived. It builds in the atmosphere. It doesn't care if stopping slowing down the growth rate doesn't do anything to reduce just the amount in the atmosphere and that makes it more like unpaid credit card debt. If anyone has credit card debt you know that slowing you're spending doesn't take away your debt so we have a climate debt that building and building building and <hes> and there's a nurse in the system to which guarantees gary this is what guarantees that we have to work really hard on a deputation and resilience and thinking about sea level in ways we hadn't thought about before and that is part of our future period even if even if those who would seek it at abrupt change get there have a success. We're getting some interesting calls on the line. Let's take one now from rock hill south carolina pete. Thanks for listening. Thanks for calling in a lot of yes. I'm curious about the potable audible water that we're losing through the non industry. It's not built up to collect the good potable water that is being melted off the polls. Is it a possibility to build a structure that we can collect data through that you go ahead and potable water meeting drinkable water pete. Thanks for the call. Well nature does that. They're called icebergs and there was some. I think i remember if someone could go out there that they get the answer that i think saudi arabia's. There's someone was exploring the idea of towing icebergs from the arctic as a big source of water so that's <hes> i it would be logistically really hard to think about the volumes you would need need in cities that are running out of water like happened in south america and south africa last few years somehow having a pipeline to polar supplies that that that seems seems like it's not going to happen in my lifetime. We're now going to be joined from another scholar. Bryce loose is joining us from kingstown kingstown rhode island professor professor at the university of rhode island and chief expedition scientists with the northwest passage project professors just returned earlier this month from an eighteen day research expedition in the arctic by sluice welcomed on point. I david thanks. It's great to be here so tell us what you saw. When you were up there okay so we <hes> got quite an expedition we were in <hes> selection affection of arctic known as the northwest passage is you said and this is basically a portion of the <hes> canadian arctic that the transit essentially from from the west coast of greenland and baffin bay <hes> and then kind of as you transit from east to west you move through the section and called lancaster sound and then the northwest passage continues through a variety of pathways but an end ships when they're trying to navigate that they basically choose the one that's the most ice-free and they and they moved from there we were we were there early in the year so <hes> we eventually encountering some pretty heavy ice and didn't proceed <hes> as you. You know all the way through the northwest passage but <hes> we were. I have to say that you know this is my fifth expedition to the arctic and <hes> it was by far the most <hes> the most i would say climatically pleasant conditions that i've ever experienced which basically means warmer and calmer so in in in years past. I've been accustomed to about every week to ten days. There will be a a frontal system that will come through and they will drop the temperature down to in the low twenties even in the summertime and you'll get some wind and you'll get some <hes> <hes> rain and then that rain turns to snow and so that's diagnostic. I would say you know arctic <hes> on a typical year but this year the winds were very mild <hes> now the temperatures are really warm. We returned degree and lend at the end of the of the greenland heatwave is referred to in the news on and you know we were experiencing temperatures. Here's in the mid fifty s through much of the much of the expedition so <hes> anecdotally it was a really you know it was it was an eye opener like it was lovely lovely for for <hes> getting a lot of work done but <hes> also really disconcerting considering what i know about the arctic and this is what i think is has been driven even home for us <hes> especially with talking with the none of it's the people who who who live up there year round in the communities. I'm and kind of having a history that goes you know many hundreds of years back they just stated the as time proceeds forward this the climate system and the weather basically just oscillate between these big extremes so they'll have a really warm dry year and then a really cold wet year and they may have a really heavy ice here and then <hes> <hes> a really minimalized year and that that all of the olive what they've kinda counted on the baseline <hes> for for their operations and for their hunting and everything that they do <hes> has been thrown out the window and and so they're they're grappling with how to how to sort of square that circle bracelets before we let you talk a little bit about the findings of your research i wanted take a call from brattleboro vermont. Thank you mary for for listening to the show in for calling in all right thank you so. I have a question russian that <hes> involves the gulfstream. My understanding is that the balance between saltwater and freshwater water at the arctic is critical to keeping the gulf stream pumping along in a healthy way and the influx the fresh water could potentially <hes> slowdown what i've heard referred to as a pump that keeps that gulfstream and and the north atlantic drift going and <hes> so. I don't know if that makes sense. I just wanna make sure that people understand what i'm saying and i'll take the answer off the air. Let me i check that. Thank you for the question. Mary let me i go to bryce loose if i could yes so <hes> that's a great the question mary and i <hes> i think this is a interesting an interesting hypothesis. That's been circulating notion agassi for maybe thirty years now and it's the idea that <hes> in the north atlantic thank you you produce this really cold <hes> water which eventually becomes heavy enough to sink to the bottom of the ocean and that happens just north of where the gulfstream starts ahead east so to some degree gulfstream heat <hes> does contribute to to the atmospheric warming that takes place in that same area. So what did you have to imagine. Agean is in the wintertime a cold atmosphere sweeping over a relatively warm ocean either warmed by the gulf stream or by this you know by this other st water and it picks up a lot of heating picks up a lot of <hes> water vapor and then it wafts over europe which is <hes>. That's pretty conclusively determined that that's why europe's climate is so mild even <hes> <hes> even in the winter and so there has been this concern that <hes> and even some evidence from from <hes> from the geologic record that if you dumped large amounts of freshwater on the north atlantic you can shut down the mechanism that we're describing. You basically push the gulfstream to the south. It doesn't doesn't turn the gulfstream off it just is rerouted and <hes> you can you can mitigate or basically shut shut down this deep water formation which is another other mechanism by which <hes> heat is transferred to the atmosphere and that of course that that deep water formation <hes> shutdown that has other much is large implications for the whole ocean current circulation system so the downstream effects could could also be <hes> very significant and these are these questions that are really actively being studied with large mooring arrays and <hes>. I think we don't know the answer yet but we know that there's it's much more complex than we ever imagined i. I think that's probably uniformly true in price before we let you go. I just want to give you a minute so to talk a little bit about your actual actual findings yourself. You're looking at the about the role of plastic and it turning up an ice core in water up there what you find yes so <hes> so we were there for for a number of reasons i i'd say the plastic wasn't necessarily the main focus but we were we were interested in looking at what the composition of the ice cores and we we're kind of lucky because we basically stumbled into <hes> an ice field of multi-rise which is andy was saying earlier is is kind of a rarity and actually because of the history of this project. We're we're pretty sure that that multi year ice actually came down from the central arctic through narrow street below you know <hes> between greenland and ellesmere island and then came into the area that we were in two thousand eighteen and then frozen place so that we found ourselves the -mongst it <hes> this year and so we were able to sample ice that was <hes> eight or ten feet thick in some places and <hes> that's remarkable because <hes> it is a much more rare occurrence to find guys and i <hes> and that much harder because it's lost all of its salinity so it's much more like a fresh water and we basically take several cores and and in examining those courses from properties we found a surprising amount of plastic in the ice cores and so we're going to shock that was a shock <hes> shock i can finding from bryce loose professor professor of oceanography at the university of rhode island and chief scientist recently completed a research mission to the arctic. Thanks so much for joining us. We're gonna keep our other guests here with us. We're cussing. Global change in specifically changes to the arctic. I'm david folkenflik. This is on point. The u._s. has the highest incarceration rate in the world with two point three million people behind bars this week on through line how we got here the history of mass incarceration in american culture through line from n._p._r. The podcast where we go back in time to understand the present this is on point. I'm n._p._r. Media correspondent david folkenflik. We're discussing the record hot temperatures besetting the arctic and what that means for the region and what that means for us you can join our conversation with questions you have for my guests where at one eight hundred four two three eight five five at twenty one hundred four to three talk. You can also follow us on twitter facebook ad on point radio radio. Andrew rivkin is with me here in studio <hes> he's at the earth institute columbia university and a former longtime environmental reporter for the new york times julie bring. I'm greg. He is a professor of glacial geology at the university of massachusetts and she has done extensive research on the arctic region for decades. I wanna read a little bit. It's a small passage. Assiduous piece written a just a few days ago post a few days going national geographic by quelch and among many hats that inter-web kennedy had he was a strategic advisor over there for national geographic society adia. I think i'm getting that right. Creek welsh rates permafrost. That's the ground that remains frozen year round is capped by a few feet of dirt and plant detritus called the active layer this soil normally ause each summer and re freezes in winter protecting permafrost from rising heat above but in the spring of twenty eighteen a crew found dirt near the surface around the town of chess guy. I believe had not up at all. During the long dark polar night that was unheard of january in siberia so brutally cold that human breath freeze with a tinkling sound that the indigenous quits call whisper of stars the soviets used to land heavy plans on the kolia william a- <hes> kalima soil thirty inches down should have been frozen instead it was mush. I wonder <hes> any ripken. If you can talk to us a little bit about how this changing ground this changing a definition of the terrain in what had been the frozen arctic effects both the wildlife lyft lives there <hes> the fauna that lives there the animals and also what effects they have on the the the plant and the the growth crops up as a result. It's all in the state of dramatic flux in two thousand and five. We did a series at the time. <hes> on the opening of the arctic called arctic rush a big melt. There was a film we may call the arctic and there was a village cavallina at that time they called. This image was like emergency. They call this environmental office in alaska and said hey. We got a problem here. There's the big fish die off in a river and it was salmon. There were all these dead salmond. They thought it was from a mine. Mine up the river and what was the salmon species that had not been spawning being in that river. That's moving. Its way north along rivers and started spawning there. When salmon spawn they die that was two thousand five there in two thousand seven. I wrote a really interesting acting on a paper by danish scientists who found that arctic flora arctic plants in certain areas are very responsive to climate change. They have this ability to adapt because arctic has has this kind of amplifier affected makes things warmer when it's warm and colder when it's cold so the plant some of the plants that they're adapted to this then polarize polarize of course you know rely on c. ice and <hes> this. I've written a ton about and <hes> ten years ago. Some colleagues at columbia university lamont doherty earth observatory taurean elsewhere had proposed. They're starting to look ahead as we all need to do. On this planet and try they created a conservation plan for polar bears by anticipating being which parts of the arctic ocean even in twenty one hundred are still likely to have ice floating on the ocean which is polar bears rely on where they hunt for seals and the like in this area just west of greenland sort of northern canada ellesmere island and they started charging out this proposal to create a a last ice area kind of a refuge in just this past week <hes> to trudeau announce. They're going to create a reserve there. So it's like anticipatory conservation where where do we know polar bears might still have a chance in two thousand one hundred even with the warming and the change and so the lesson there is nature has some responsiveness gray whales apparently went through the arctic ocean like like these early these ships that have recently gone through from one ocean to the other that people had anticipated <hes> <hes> in that sense nature is going to do its thing if we give it a little room and do some anticipatory work. We can still save these species but it's gonna take work and imagination to do that. <hes> last last year <hes> julie the intergovernmental panel on climate change issued a special report in the impacts of global warming of one point five degrees celsius above pre industrial industrial levels. Here's jim ski co-author of that report. The key messages that we can't keep global warming below one point five degrees c as possible within the laws of physics and chemistry bought it will require huge transitions and all sorts of systems energy lawn transportation but what the reporters waterstones to send a clear message. The governments that is physically possible is no to them to decide whether they want to take the challenge. Now i gotta say <hes> <hes> julia. We've been getting somewhat apocalyptic comments online above haig posts on facebook. It's obvious that actions to prevent the catastrophic results of global warming should have begun a gun decades ago wants the permafrost. Thaws it's game over another listener troy johnson writes. It's no huge mystery. The pathway traveling greenland and antarctica are also melting thing biodiversity devastated reports and science or clear as a bell. The world does not come together and act in about eight or nine years with huge warlike efforts life on earth will die within a few generations rations. Julie bring greedy offer some rebutted. Don't golfer us what you feel. The facts show well yeah. I think i actually had the privilege to sit in on some of the discussions in in bonn germany june for the i._p._c. discussions discussions and how the countries are talking to each other about needing to keep emissions down so that we don't raise the planet any warmer. We've already re raise raise the planet temperature one degree so keeping it below one point five is apt absolutely crucial and yet the current promises. Mrs are really not good enough. They're still the current. Levels of promises are are driving toward a world. That's three degrees greece above present which puts us back in the pleistocene so we do. I agree. We've got to do something really quickly. <hes> <hes> and that takes great political will over the next few decades. I'm an optimist. I think i think we have to do it. <hes> <hes> let me just put this in perspective. I recently gave a talk out at <hes> university. Oklahoma and i said you know even though you live in oklahoma. You need to worry about ceelo and what's happening. The forecast is <hes> possibly as much as by the time greta thornburgh from is ninety seven years old in her lifetime sea-level from antarctica alone could go up as much as fifty to sixty centimeters or a two or three feet now that doesn't the sound like much but we're looking at having to move anywhere from six million to thirteen million people from the gulf coast and florida get them. I'm out of harm's way. Who's gonna pay for that so are fema the federal government are going to have to do managed retreat and yet we haven't even factored in the economic cost of that happening just within the next few decades so we can adapt and try to be sustainable notable but i think we really need to look at the consequences of just even sea level rise in our own country the think of all those thirty six million people as refugees. Oh jeez climate refugees in our own country having to find a new place to go to school new place to work new land to have home people are starting talk about that but that's has grave implications so when you wrap that all up makes the urgency the urgency of now really important for i'm doing something about our use of fossil fuels. Wanna take a call from corinth vermont frank. Thanks for listening what what questions you have for guests. Thanks for having me on. I just have a question here scientists <hes> on to establish scientific theories one c._o. Two parts per million is being raised. <hes> <hes> society we get to unfortunately we get to six hundred seven hundred parts per million but then we are in interglacial ice age periods. That's also scientific fact so that we've we've had ten or twelve periods of warming and usually a large part of the earth is covered in glaciers. What happens when those collide but i don't think it'll happen tomorrow no but if we have seven or eight hundred eight hundred parts per million and an ice age comes along which the science will eventually what happens then thank you very much. Thanks for your question frank. My mood interrupting says in his book all right so tell us what it says. I i wrote in two thousand and three about this question of you you know sensually when will the next ice age common they are there in the mix because of the orbits of the earth and how it relates to the sun. It's going to return but even then two. He doesn't three there were papers that are coming out saying the greenhouse warming is already dominating that little orbital forcing that gives the earth its periodic ice ages. We've essentially as long as we're. We've canceled out the the laws of physics of the heavens well now. We're it's all the laws of physics. We're not canceling. We're we're. We're overtaking now. Yeah well this is this is the idea of the antecedent that would become the geological powerhouse and so in a longtime scale <hes> we are fending being off already. There's already evidence that the slide in temperatures has been happening on a timescale of millenniums is already slowed because of the warming and and and there's a lot of uncertainty. This is such a big pulse of c._o. Two so fast that as i'm sure julia and others will know there's there's wildcards here and and julie julie brigham greg. Is that your sense as well yeah. The what's happening in the atmosphere is by far taking over the the very small orbital little changes that normally drive glacial-interglacial changes so <hes> if we actually do reach six hundred eight hundred parts per mil <hes> again and within by the time today's what <hes> kindergarteners are elderly people were talking about. Maybe six hundred eight hundred parts a per mil. I mean that's a very different world and we will have we will of baked in so to speak enough heat in the oceans and the atmosphere that that will cause the the both antarctica to continue to collapse particularly west antarctica and then more melt from greenland and you're right. I mean it's gonna take even with a warmer world. It take four to five thousand years for all of greenland to melt but getting even two or three feet out of that in the next century. It's not impossible so guiseley before the hour gets away from us and we have a bit of time left for sure <hes> i wanna talk a little bit about <hes> about affirmative steps and about sort of thinking about this because this stuff can can devolve into spare despair a lot for listeners for families. You talk about how can possibly think in any anyway. That's not just sort of despairing about what are what my children and grandchildren will experience <hes> should should should we be fortunate so so what what what do you say about in terms of what's being done to mitigate what's being done to accommodate <hes> how we should think about and talk about these things start with you andrew redken. We've got about five minutes left in a piece. I did for not geo when i was there. Last this past year i looked at the adaptation side of this and <hes> which was consciously honestly tamped down by many climate campaigners for in in the thirty years. I've been writing about this. It was always kind of worried that there was this worry. If we focus too much on adopting we won't and do the hard job of cutting those emissions remember. It's like credit card debt man. It's hard right right and even harder with greenhouse gases <hes> so it's like a but al gore in two thousand listen to and his first book on global warming two thousand two he wrote <hes> that adaptation was a former laziness so i asked his office <hes> when i was writing this piece so what do you think about it now and in two thousand thirteen book that that that i hadn't seen this chunk of and isn't really discussed <hes>. He said he was wrong. This is a quote wrong in not immediately grasping grasping the moral imperative of pursuing both policies simultaneously in spite of the difficulty meaning cutting. We'll do what we can transform our energy systems and and adopting and one of the things i think is really important. Opportunity especially for young people and parents is to to embrace reality that somehow we have to come up with a new idea of how to have a coastal civilization columbia. We recently had a two day managed retreat meeting. What is that. How do you build a city. That has no new new normal coastline. We have to do that even with what we do on greenhouse gases and that's a that's a really important challenge. It's not going to be building walls. You know that doesn't work ultimately. So how do you create sort of agile flexible learning learn and shift approached. The city design is a key part of where we go from here and on coastlines and and that that's just a model for this bigger challenge how to act even with this grand challenge. Everyone can do something julie. Brigham greedy just take off. I realized it's it's unfair to tick off a few bullet points of things that you say look these are things that are doable and these are things that are constructive that will help us combat and help buzz also accommodate the kinds of change. We're going to see with growth c._o. Two in the atmosphere well. I think it makes very clear economic sense to be shifting over. We're to wind and solar. We still have many states in this country where your taxes increase. If you have have solar panels so i think we can turn those those efforts around and really try to change the sources of our energy. That's really imperative and i think there's just as andy it was saying there's tremendous opportunity. When i talked to young people say you you can be part of this change. You can be part of making this a better this a better world as we both adapt and mitigate gate the problem so i was just <hes> on a bicycle trip across iowa and there's wind wind farms all over the place there <hes> generating revenue for local farmers and generating tremendous volumes of the energy in what you might not think iowa would be doing that politically in the same conc- said for for oklahoma and texas where we have tremendous <hes> wind power being generated <hes> what's missing are some of the solar panel arrays that could be put in place as we shift gift our source of power over to more renewable cleaner fuels andy rifkin in the last minute we have you looked at this from both sides. The telescope both is that reporter in is is now a communicator as we communicate with a policy makers as we communicate with one another as we talk to our our our children <hes>. How are you thinking about how this issue is framed. Even how we talk about it well. I've been a storyteller for thirty plus years me telling you something that model for the media and or for scientific scientific institutions or leadership is flawed when it's on an issue like this with complexity. It's about conversation. There are people in oklahoma. There's a businessman knew who says god controls the environment who has solar panels all over his house. This was a two thousand fifteen report my buddy john sutter at c._n._n. And you know so. Do you badger him about his disbelief and global warming or do you say hey man. You know i have other reasons. I think about energy. What do we do about that. There's ways for but they're they're more about conversation than about story telling sometimes building bridges and policies you've been hearing there from andrew kinney's director of the initiative communication and sustainability at the earth institute columbia the university. Thanks for your time great to be here and we're appreciative to julie. Bring him greedy. 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Quirks & Quarks year in review  We look at some of the most significant science stories we covered (and one we didnt) in 2019

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Quirks & Quarks year in review We look at some of the most significant science stories we covered (and one we didnt) in 2019

"This is a CBC podcast her modest it. All Girl dark-haired inherited it cranks. I'm Bob MacDonald. Welcome to a year end edition of corks. In Cork's we're going to take a bit of a look back some of twenty thousand nine hundred top science stories including a year in fire her these high intensity fires you can continue to drop retardant water foam wherever you link from airplanes the fires of any size. It's like spitting on Campfire and I am the urine ice. The stuff that is there's thinner which means it's weaker and there's less of an aerial extended a year wondering what we should eat. Fundamental problems with nutrition. Science for decades has been that we've relied on a very weak kind of science and you're wondering why people people aren't vaccinated the measles virus much worse than we thought it not only kills people directly but it does so indirectly maybe five times as many people all this and more today on courts forks a sunshine coast community under threat again for the third time in just over three months. The coastal town of marijn springs is burning as a wall of flames lines. The road police declare an emergency evacuating dozens of homes. It's all too familiar. Milia for residents fourth one of the big science and Environmental Stories of twenty nine thousand nine hundred was wildfire. That shouldn't be a surprise. It could have been one of the stories stories of two thousand eighteen. Two Thousand Seventeen and twenty six as well and in fact two thousand nineteen wasn't actually a huge wildfire season for Canada. Sure nearly nine hundred thousand hectares of Alberta burned displacing thousands of people but the fire season in the rest of Canada was relatively speaking speaking mild. You can't say the same about California where brushfires devastated wine country and then they're South America where the world watched as is. The Amazon rainforest seemed threatened as never before or the catastrophic fire season in a baking hot and dry Australia. And there's Africa. Gotcha Siberia Greece Indonesia. Should I go on. Fire is complex and can be a natural part of the way landscapes work. But there's little little doubt that around the world. We're facing fire regimes. That are different and more dangerous than ever before. Dr Mike Flanagan is a professor a wildland fire at the university avow. BERTA and we've asked him to give us his perspective on twenty nineteen in wildfire. Dr Flanagan welcome back to quirks and quarks. Thank you Bob. Great to be with she today. So how bad was twenty. Nineteen is a wildfire year. Globally was a bad year though the actual amount of area burned his pretty very close to normal. Normally we see about four hundred twenty million Hector's burn a year and that's more than the size of India but what is important is the intensity and the impact of the fires in twenty nineteen. Well let's talk about some of the hardest hit areas. I mean Australia. Failure seem simply frightening right now. What's going on in that case there? It's the spring going into summer and it's been very dry very hot And they're getting lots affiars. They've burned over three million hector's already and actually if we go back to the beginning of twentieth nineteen. That's almost like bookends ends. Because there were catastrophic fires in Tasmania and now here we are at the end of twenty nineteen and once again. Australia's on fire are they getting fires in areas areas that they haven't seen fires before they've seen fires before but the mount to fire. They're seeing in some of their weather force that they don't normally normally seat this much fire or this intense fire the warmer it gets the better that Mr get that sucking moisture of the fuel and almost exponential increase with temperature so the fuels get really dry. So it's easier for fire to start and spread and dryers means there's more fuel to burn the more fuel to burn means. More energy is released when it burns which means fire management activities can put that fire out. Okay well the world world was also focused on Brazil earlier this year. How significant were those rain forest fires? You know globally. There are some areas areas where fires and natural feature is actually part of a healthy ecosystem like are boreal forest. The tropical force in Amazon fire fire is exceedingly rare. Naturally so these are all human costs fires. These are deliberately set fires and there are parts of Brazil called the Serrato which which is more like a Savannah and the fear is as we convert more more that rainforest. We'll start to see a lot more savannah type in this good have global climate implications implications. Because you know we have a forest because it rains but we also get rain because forced you know. It's a two way street here. So we start. Removing this force is going to be regionally exceedingly dry more prone to droughts while rainforests are vital ecosystems around the world so what Kinda threat is wildfire to them well and natural world not much of a threat. Because it's too wet but once you clear the land you allow allow the wind and the sun to get to the forest floor to dry out those fuels and so when you burn again it goes further into the forest and just keeps John Chipping away and if you keep on. Starting these fires they'll spread and burn more intensely and then produced tons of smoke which is not great for human health? The more we find out about while then fire smoke the more refined how bad it is for us with all of these forests being burned how much carbon that was sequestered in. That would is being released when most forest burn. If we're talking about a live tree not much of that actual tree burns. Okay if the trees dead will then there can be significant sumptuous but most of the carbon and other greenhouse gases come from. What's on the forest floor four? And it's dead organic material so that goes into that Messier. But what's really important is Pete. Pete is organic material. That's forty centimeters or more in depth and as we're getting warmer temperatures and drier conditions. These peatlands are burning more and burning deeper and and so they can release significant amounts of greenhouse gases. And this is what is happening in some parts of the Arctic this year there was. There's a lot of fire activity North Arctic Circle and we've seen fires there before but this year was unusual in that amount of forest fires north North Arctic circle primarily in Siberia was record-breaking. There never been a year like this head and shoulders above every other year. The Tundra Fires North Arctic Circle were very active but wasn't record-breaking but the forest fires were and this is from lightning activity which we're seeing moving farther earn farther north. In fact this year there was like N- activity detected near the North Pole. So as we warm. We're seeing more lightning activity especially in northern regions uh-huh and perhaps a lengthening of the lightning fire season and so these can release significant amount of greenhouse gases stay from Indonesia suggests that from a particularly bad fire year that the greenhouse gases emit were equivalent to twenty to forty percent of global fossil fuel emissions. Now in the boreal Auriol. We have thirty times more Pete than they do in Indonesia well. Climate change is making fire. Worse is fire making climate change worse. The big question here is our forest fires. A warming agent or cooling agent and there's arguments on both sides Mother Nature has checks and balances and some some things like combustion process of peat fires inject significant amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere but Albedo changes removing conifer for trees which absorb solar radiation. If you remove those they dia fire then you have snow on the ground. Nor- northern latitudes aunt reflects the sunlight. which is a cooling agent? So you get all these different things. Smoking Atmosphere Block Sola radiation makes it cooler. Black Carbon is absorbed by solarization- makes it warmer and black carbon can be deposited on snow and ice accelerate the warming and places says linked Greenland. So who's GonNa win out. More fire in the landscape are we going to see warming or cooling or not much difference so those are the natural landscapes now. I think some of the shock of fires when they happened in heavily populated develop places like California or Greece or a couple years ago Portugal. What's what's the story there when they're happening? Populated areas so as we see more intense fires fire management activities cannot put these out in western United States. We've seen an increase of four times in terms of area burned California increase of five the times in terms of area burned and these are the fires these high intensity fires that you cannot put out through direct attack you can continue and you drop retarded and water foam wherever you link from airplanes if the fires of any size it's Thanksgiving on Campfire. You're not doing a good. The bottom line is here. Fires not gun disappear. We have to learn to live with fire. You mentioned there was fires in two thousand sixteen. Twenty seven thousand two thousand eighteen thousand nineteen. There's going to be fires in twenty twenty unfortunately some some of these are going to be catastrophic But there are things we can do to reduce the likelihood of these catastrophic fires. Dr Flanagan thank you very much for your time. Oh my pleasure Bob. Dr Mike. Flanagan is a professor wildland fire at the University of Alberta leading many lists of top science stories. This year was a remarkable announcement in April of the first image of the event horizon of a Black Kohl. Scientists merged data from a network of eight radio telescopes located around the world to produce a picture of the enormous black hole at the heart of a distant galaxy known as M Eighty-seven Med. Seven is a vast galaxy much larger than ours at center is a monsters black hole with a mass six point five billion times as large as our son those eight telescopes collected a vast trove of observational information. Five Appel A. Bytes of data stored on half a ton of hard drives. When they put all that information together they were able to construct a remarkable picture? We spoke to astronomer avery. Broderick from the perimeter institute and the University of Waterloo about how the picture was made black holes are black that makes them intrinsically difficult difficult to see but we have this amazing paradox in nature that the astronomical black holes. They're not all alone not by themselves. But but they're interacting with hot gas material falling onto them interacting with them launching outflows et Cetera and that gas shines exceedingly bright right so bright they can outshine host galaxies in even hundreds of host galaxies. And it is that light that we made the picture of and against that backdrop. The horizon appears as a shadow as a whole in the light. The picture itself was deceptively simple and orange doughnut cut with a black center but it captured the imagination of people around the world and for the scientists who captured it. There was the palpable excitement of a moment of discovery discovery. After a long and grueling effort as with all expeditions a complex set of emotions was relieved after spending so much time that it came Out to be something like we had thought wonderment. You know one of the great joys of being a scientist is when nature unfolds itself just a little bit to you. You're the I to see that. And then you have the privilege of going around telling the world But but there's also excitement because this is the beginning. We've opened a new window but we're not done looking through it. That was astronomer. Avery Broderick Krahn Quirks and quarks last April discussing the publication of the first image of the event horizon isn't of a black hole. One of the more controversial studies you heard about on the the shoulders year was about the latest science on the risks of eating red and processed meat. We've looked at what. The risk reduction is for cancer. Heart disease and diabetes among those who consume three fewer servings of red or process meat per week and we did find a very small risk reduction however the certainty or quality of evidence to support that is low very low. How small is the risk? Yes we've characterized it as very small. That was part of my conversation with Dalhousie University associate professor of Community Health and Epidemiology Dr Dr Bradley Johnson. He and his colleagues had just published a series of studies reviewing the science around the health. Risks of Red Meat and you just heard the conclusion collusion the risks. We've been warned about for years. Were it seems overstated. Now if you're scratching your head wondering what to believe you've what you should eat. You're not the only one saturated fats are bad for you. hoops we take that back cutback on eggs because the cholesterol all whoops. Maybe not the problem is it seems that we've been settling for shoddy nutritional science for too long now and our hearts waistlines waistlines and metabolic health have been paying the price but there is a glimmer of hope on the horizon. A scientific revolution with new tools to wade through the nutritional fiction versus fact. Nina tables is a science journalist. Who wrote the book? The big fat surprise about how dietary fat may not be is bad for us as we were told a few years ago. She launched a nonprofit organization called the nutrition coalition. That doesn't accept. Any industry. Funds ends to advocate for more scientific rigor in the development of nutritional guidelines mistakes shells. Welcome to the program. Dinky Bob so much for having me. So so what do you see is the biggest problem with how scientists study. What's healthy for us to eat? And what's not. If fundamental problem with nutrition science for decades. It has been that we've relied on a very weak kind of science. It's a big long word. Called Epidemiology also called observational studies. But basically they only only show associations between some food and some health outcome like meat is associated with heart disease that science when it's tested in more rigorous what's called a clinical trial. You know we actually tested you. Give some people the Food and you give some people. Don't get the food it's like a drug trial. Some people get the drug and some people. Don't get the drug. That's a rigorous kind of science called clinical trials when you test these associations in a proper rigorous clinical Michael trial it turns out. Those weak associations are only shown to be correct zero to twenty percent of the time. So we've been basing our public health recommendations Una science that's only likely to be right zero to twenty percent of the time which means it's wrong eighty to one hundred percent of the time when you talk about weeks is in epidemiology which success large groups of people as part of the problem that that relies on surveys where people have to report what they ate over a long period of time and say well. Oh yes sure I really well. This week I don't report. The you know the bag of potato chips that they had that kind of these studies rely on food frequency questionnaires. And that's where they asked people to the report on say the last six months of what the eight so let's just start with the fact that nobody remembers what they ate say yesterday and now you're asked to say. How many pairs did you eat on average over the last six months how many peaches how many ribs and can you express that in cups please? And there's the problem that people lie about what they eat even into themselves much less to the researchers so that's just one reason. These studies are very weak. I'll give you another reason. That's really interesting. which is they suffer from? What's it's called confounding? which is to say that a meat eater is who it is somebody who's been ignoring all their doctor's advice for the last three decades right so they're also likely to be people who smoke more drink more or less likely to go to cultural events? Take care of themselves less likely to exercise more likely a to have that meet with French fries and probably too much to drink. I mean we know that meat eaters have this unhealthy profile and scientists cannot not adjust for all those factors. How indicative is the Red Meat Study or series of studies that come out this fall and what's going on in the field of nutrition science? The Red Meat Studies were really a milestone. Because what they did was they took a system for reviewing the science. The one that they used for this red meat study is called grade that prioritizes strong science over week science basically. It's applying in rules to looking at all the evidence. It's a little bit like we've been playing a game of soccer with no referees. There's no rules to the game so that that kind of system a grade like system or great itself really brings disciplined to the field that it has not had in the past will. Can you give me an example. All of how the grade system assesses the quality of the study yes so grade starts by prioritizing randomized controlled clinical trials what we called the gold standard above epidemiological data those weak associations. But then it doesn't just leave it there. It says well. These kinds of studies can be upgraded created downgraded depending on various factors like if that was a clinical trial even though that's the gold standard. And we think that's a really good kind of study. What if it was really poorly done on? What if they never followed up with people correctly or they didn't really ensure that they ate the Diet they were supposed to then? That study is graded down likewise they can take what we assume as a week associational study but if the association was huge like four people who smoke pack of cigarettes a day versus versus nonsmokers. The difference in their risk of getting lung cancer is ten to thirty five times. Difference a huge difference and even that's an association that's a big association. So that study is grated. Up and so- studies can be graded up or down depending depending on the quality. The strength of the outcomes and different things and that's why it's such a good and sophisticated system for evaluating science. So how how widely accepted is this great system. Will it become the gold. Standard of studying quality of nutrition. Science grade was originally developed for looking at let me medicine and it's been adopted by hundred fifty different public health institutions around the world. It has become more applied in nutrition in recent years it was recommended by the National Academy of Sciences for the use of our US dietary guidelines. So that's the highest recommendation. The Land for our most important attrition policy. I mean great is being used in nutrition and I think that the future of nutrition will include grade. Well all the Harvard University Department of nutritionist. Come out very strongly against the conclusions made in the meat study. What's their argument? Harvard advert is the home of the two largest epidemiological databases in the United States and so they have published on and and been the house of this week associational science for decades. That's their bread and butter and what they do. So they are naturally challenged by a system that insists upon downgrading the quality of their science. And basically saying you know your science is useful and good for generating hypotheses but is not strong enough evidence for making public health recommendations so that is at the basis of their resistance assistance. I believe but they also say that there were certain studies that were left out of that meet report they did. There were two of them that they said were left out including one one on the Mediterranean Diet but in both those studies there was no difference in the amount of meat eaten between the two arms of the study so or meet was not not measured it all in one of the studies so meat was not a variable in those studies so I think they were mistaken in that criticism. Okay before you go. So if you'll indulge me I'd like to play a little rapid fire game with you okay. So argument name of food where we've gotten mixed messages and you tell me whether or not it's healthy based on the best available science okay okay. Let's go eggs healthy or not healthy and lots of vitamins. Salt healthy the in moderation sugar healthier not not bread healthier not in moderation for people who are not fighting. Obesity overweight wait diabetes milk. Good for you whole milk is best and finally red meat healthier not no evidence since that it's unhealthy and some evidence that it is in fact healthy mustachioed. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you so much for having me. Nina Tae shoals shoals is a science journalist based out of New York City and executive director of the nutrition coalition and a continuing story. Twenty nineteen was our realization that our environment is thoroughly and deeply contaminated with micro-plastics tiny fragments of plastic have been found everywhere from the highest reaches of the Himalayas to the bottom of the Mariana trench over eleven kilometers deep in the Pacific Ocean. It's frozen in Arctic ice and mixed in with our soil. In fact last June we reported on a remarkable study by a team at the University of Victoria. Toria that calculated just how much of this plastic we were accidentally ingesting garth. COVINGTON was one of the researchers so our findings indicate eight that we could be consuming upwards of one hundred thousand particles per year and we compiled research that had been done by other researchers over roughly the last decade and so these studies covered items ranging from food such as shellfish alcohol as well as things like salts and added sugars sugars and drinking water and air various kinds of garbage are a big source of micro plastic as plastic debris and litter breaks down into fragments admits in the environment but garbage might not be the biggest culprit. Our washing machines could be right up there just last month. We reported boarded on a study that found that synthetic clothing particularly that winter staple the polyester polar fleece is shedding huge numbers of tiny tiny plastic fibers into wastewater streams when it's laundered this wastewater of course returns to rivers lakes and oceans. As a result laundry DRI might be a significant source of micro plastic pollution in the environment. The more we look at this issue the more we find that micro-plastics are really dominated. Aided in the ocean by fibers these are tiny little bits and pieces of different colors pink yellow blue green translucent on they're all about ten to fourteen microns thick doc and they really seem dominate what. We're finding whether it's in the Pacific or the Arctic or elsewhere that was Dr Peter. Ross the vice president of research at the Ocean wise and an associate professor of environmental studies at the University of Victoria. But of course we don't just talk to scientists who are identifying these issues we also speak to researchers who are trying to do something about it and one of the things researchers are trying to do is reduced. Plastic waste in the environment by making. We get more recyclable. Plastics aren't designed to be recyclable. As a result recycled plastic is often a low grade and low value product. But in May of last year we spoke to Peter Christensen a post doctoral researcher at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California about a new kind of plastic. He and his colleagues colleagues were developing that was designed to be endlessly recyclable. Plastics from a chemical perspective are a small building block effectively like a block lack of Lego. That's attached to itself over and over and over again and what we've done. We were considering. What would you have to do to be able to take that plastic and then unstitched it or break it up again into its individual building blocks so that you then have those building blocks to make the plastic again? And so what this allows you to do if you can chemically disassemble. The plastic and turn it back into these fundamental building blocks. You can remove all of the color you can remove all of the additives and the flame retardants or you know the carbon fiber the fiber glass or are everything that's added to the plastic to make it the product that it is And then you have this material that you can then make that same plastic again without ever losing any of the properties. Now you you can take those building blocks. Turn it back into the plastic and then you can add new things or add you can make it yellow or you can make it red or you can turn into something entirely different and so at its foundation. It's a chemical bond that we've we've invented recall these things up. PDK's that's the class of polymers or plastics. There's a lot out of research still to be done before. PDK Plastics make it out of the lab and into our lives but they might just be part of the solution to our plastics problem earlier in the program. We talked about the year and fire. Now it's time to talk talk about the year and ice. Climate change is having massive and sometimes unpredictable effects on Arctic oceanography and ecosystems and one of the major ways that's happening is by melting. Ice Sea. Ice Cover is decreasing land-based. Glaciers are retreating and perhaps most significantly the enormous greenland ice cap is melting rates. We've never seen before the impact on the north and on the globe for things like sea level rise and ocean circulation relation patterns is profound to bring us up to speed on the year in ice. We've invited one of Canada's leading ice researchers. Dr David Barber is Canada Research Chair and Arctic System Science at the University of Manitoba. Dr Barbara Welcome back to quirks and quarks. Thank you very much. Let's start with Greenland. What was twenty nineteen nineteen like for the Greenland Ice Cap? Well the Greenland. Ice Cap has been melting. H- quite extensively again this year in twenty nineteen but this has been a pattern. That's been going on for several years now. How much Isis Greenland actually losing generally? It's in the area of about two hundred. Eighty two three hundred fifty giga tons per year and so Gigi ton is A billion tons. And so it's a lot generally generally speaking the amount that you lose each year It you know. Some years is higher other years lower depending on what's going on with the climate system. I'm at any one time In terms of the total amount. That's lost though. We are seeing an increasing trend. As we you know. Look back across the last decade cater. So there was a report that came out from the intergovernmental panel on climate change this fall that says losses were following the worst case scenario house. So what is the worst case scenario and why are we on track for it the Greenland ice sheet right now. The mass loss lines up with the high by Scenarios that the I. P. C. Report has generated and one of the reasons that we end up with that scenario is that the models are generally conservative conservative. And by that I mean they don't include a lot of the processes that were really just starting to understand. Can you give us an example of some of the new do things that were understanding about. How Isis lost relent? Well one of the things that we've been focused on in the last little while are looking at this idea that freshwater swatter melts on the surface from solar installation. And you get you know melt ponds and lakes and things and then these the session extended they can. They can penetrate down through the ice sheet through crevasses and things to basically accumulate at the interface between the bottom of the a sheet and the bedrock and so then this water lubricates the surface. So you can imagine having a lubricant between this massive block of ice on top of the sheet and then between between the bedrock and the bottom of the acer liquid layer and this liquid layer actually stays liquid throughout the year boy. Glaciers have have lubrication under them they're literally slip sliding away faster. Yeah exactly and you know. It's interesting because they grow in the center so the high elevation is where the snow August deposited. And that's where the the the elevation increases in the center. And that just puts more weight. On the periphery of it. But because the periphery. Has this lubricant. Underneath didn't you. Basically you're squishing out. That freshwater in both solid phase liquid phase on the margins of the sheet okay so that's the Greenland ice sheet which which is on land. The other big body of ice in the Arctic is the floating sea ice pack. What state was that in in two thousand nineteen? Well again it's continuing along along. The same. Trajectory has been on for a while which is reducing the amount of ceus and. That's both the areal extent so the amount of area that is covered by ice but also the thickness of that cease meaning. Were losing the volume of ice but that also means that the ace becomes more mobile because because the stuff that is there's thinner which means it's weaker and there's less of an area areal extent of it so good way to think about it. Is You know if you were to fill up a bath TUB with Styrofoam and you completely filled the bathtub with Styrofoam. And then you put a fan on it and tried to blow it around. It wouldn't really go very far because just bumps into each other What we're doing wing is reducing the thickness of the Styrofoam less styrofoam in the bathtub? And we put the same amount of Wind over top of it and of course the ice moves much more effectively and this is creating all kinds of havoc Both in the Arctic but also in lower latitudes of the planet so to give you an idea of one of these instances we were taking came the Amundsen down the Saint Lawrence seaway a couple of years ago and we got out just off the Between Quebec and Newfoundland we were going to turn left and go up baffin Bay breath and we ran into a very thick Very old very hard multi year sea ice. which shouldn't have been there in the springtime when we were trying to go up to a research work and this was the time when You know a lot of Fisher's were trying to get out to get going in the crab fishery and you know the a lot of the maritime mm transportation and started for resupply villages and for you know ferry boats to get across between Newfoundland and Quebec. And they're getting set in the as we tracked it back and figured were came from and it came from the High Arctic. Just because it's so much more mobile could travel much further south than it had previously and therefore showed up in a place where nobody nobody really expected it and this happened again last year as well off the Off The east coast of Canada are there implications for us from the losses losses of this is beyond just nuisances to navigation. Yes of course. There are others the entire marine ecosystem side of things and so this this year in particular was a particularly interesting year in that there was a lot of Observations of new species in the Pacific sector of the Arctic By new species. I mean species that are coming from the North Pacific into the southern Beaufort Sea and the villages along the Alaska coast McCain coasts are starting to find lots of Pacific species that are in their nets for instance and we're also finding unfortunately mortality in marine mammals. And so there's there's a whole process unfolding right now that looks like it is Pacific ation of the Pacific sector of the Arctic and Atlantic Atlantic Station of the Atlantic sector of the Arctic which means that the Arctic species themselves are coming under tremendous pressure and. They're getting out competed by their boreal. Oriole counterparts from more southerly latitudes. It seems that everytime we have a naturally cold weeks of weather down here in the south is blamed on the polar GORTEX. What effect does the loss of ice in the north have on that? How does that work? Well this is something that we're it's an active area of research retraite now trying to figure out exactly how the polar jet is related to the changes in sea ice in at high latitudes the polar jet loops around the Arctic and when I started working in the Arctic back in the early eighties the polar vortex was really quite constrained right around the High Arctic and it was maintained tain because it was a continuous thick ice cover over top of the ocean. So there wasn't much heat that was being liberated to the atmosphere. Now that poorer jet chat is it's highly truncated and lobe so these lobes can penetrate quite far south southern latitudes and they also quite far north Earth as well so if we happen to be underneath one of them this is. This is what the meteorologists would be calling a cold air outbreak from the Arctic. When you get really cold Air Maskell much I would have normally gone before and the flip side of that is also happening where you get much warmer air masses going much further up into the Arctic venue would have before another? I already already warmer in the north colder in the south. Exactly Dr Barbara. Thank you very much for your time. Nice chatting with Dr David. Barber is Canada research this chair in Arctic System Science at University of Manitoba. I almost never went to university because what teacher said to me twenty years ago. She looks on the face in front of my peers. And just goes. You don't have to work ethic to pursue post secondary let alone the scientists. You'll never make it. Oh don't worry honey. No woman has ever hit the target. So there's no pressure those were some of the voices we featured on our program in September when we broadcast a special focused on the issue of Bias and discrimination against Women in science the issue of systemic the stomach gender bias is one science struggled with for years in fact back in February to coincide with the United Nations International Day of women and girls and in science the prestigious medical journal The Lancet published a special issue focused on the under representation of women in science. Here's one of the editors the Journal discussing what they'd found collectively. This theme issue lays out robust evidence of bias within systems of science medicine and global health. And the need for an action SHEN PLAN AND ACCOUNTABILITY FROM INSTITUTIONAL LEADERS TO CONFRONT GENDER BIAS improved versity and inclusivity and drive change in our special in September. We explored some of the ways. This buys works to keep women from succeeding in science as they should and the price we all pay as a result one of our gas ask was biologist. Lisa Willis from the University of Alberta. She's worked to identify some of the systemic challenges women in science face. What's been called the Glasser obstacle course? It's that obstacle course. That's kept women from making bigger inroads in science for example in Canada only about thirty percent of all professors in science related. Fields are women and Dr Willis pointed out that we're not making progress in fixing that this is really interesting hosting the numbers have not changed in the last twenty years so for example the number of women doing an undergraduate degree hasn't changed the number of women in graduate school has not not changed and the percentage of female faculty has not changed in the last twenty years the invisible obstacles women in science face. Come not only from conscious bias S. overt sexism but also more insidious in unconscious biases we all hold and this can affect everything from the roles. Female Graduate Students Students are assigned in the lab to who gets research funding and invitations to speak at conferences. And who gets recognized for their work one. The issues we explored was the way that science itself has been used to reinforce the notion that men are better at science than women. We spoke to neuroscientist. Dr Gina. Ripa about this I think because science to some extent has been informed by what I call the hunt. The Difference Agenda Brain rain chance in the past had a very powerful belief that women's brains were inferior to men's modern neuroscience neuroscience is painting a very different picture showing that there is no inherent reason that women have any less capacity to pursue science than men in our special special we also looked at the way biomedical science in particular has neglected women partly because women haven't been part of the process as researchers or as research subjects when women aren't included in the scientific pro says at the highest levels. Vital Research on women's health isn't pursued and Dr Kara Tanenbaum from the Canadian institutes for health research outlined the cause of a male standard in health research and they naturally only assume that whatever scientific findings they found in men they'd be able to extrapolate and apply to women but what men of course didn't appreciate is that women are not just small men there may not be important differences between men and women when it comes to scientific aptitude but there are crucial differences between the sexes when when it comes to health and that means that there have been important things we haven't understood this ranges from the way women can be injured in car accidents because crash rush test. Dummies were modelled. On male bodies to drugs tested on men that could be potentially lethal for women but things are changing scientists. I just North America are now mandated to include females in biomedical research and a wave of awareness of our biases is sweeping through faculty lounges across the country because we are a diverse society. It's time our science reflects that on the medical front up preventable disease. Measles continues to make lethal brakes around the world. Measles infected nearly ten million people win twenty eighteen and killed one hundred forty two thousand most of them babies and children under the age of five. who had not been vaccinated? Did the worst affected countries include Congo Madagascar and Ukraine health officials. Say this year is shaping up to be even deadlier. We haven't haven't got the numbers for the whole year. But in the first three months of two thousand nineteen measles cases shot up by three hundred percent and this is half office century after scientists develop a measles vaccine. Now some of these cases are in places where vaccination programs are weak or unavailable but of course there are also people who are choosing to forgo the vaccine for themselves and their offspring despite overwhelming evidence that the vaccine is safe and saves. CBS lives. In fact one of the things we learned this year was that the measles vaccine probably saved more lives than we ever knew. That's because according to a study study published in the prestigious journal Science this fall a measles. Infection can actually significantly increase our vulnerability to other dangerous infections. Stephen Elhage was the senior author that study. He's a professor of genetics and medicine at the Brigham and women's Hospital and Harvard Medical School. Dr Doc elhage welcome to our program. Thank you what made you originally suspected measles might be more dangerous than we previously thought. Well there are some epidemiological the logical data from studies when they first introduced the measles vaccine in one thousand nine hundred seventy gathered from the UK and at that time in in that cohort of people about four hundred individuals a year would die of measles and they introduced the measles vaccine and no one was dying of measles but what they actually actually found was that they found a drop in overall child mortality of three thousand so this was very surprising and it made wonder wonder what was going on and so some of the different ideas out there were that the vaccine itself somehow stimulates the immune system makes you have have a better immune system going forward but other people interpreted it differently that perhaps the measles was somehow damaging immune system. So you're more susceptible after so you get the measles. Well so how did you then go about testing the effects that contracting measles can have on our immune system well my laboratory among other things develops new methods that allow us to probe the immune system and recently we developed a method called deer. Skin that allows us to detect the types and abundance. It's of antiviral. Antibodies in each person from a single drop of blood. And we can basically determine the entire history of your viral infections affections which you've been infected with throughout your life and we'd found a cohort of people who had not been vaccinated in the Netherlands for which there were samples available before and after the measles infection and what we found was that we could detect new antibodies to the measles but we also found by examining all all the other viral antibodies that there was a precipitous drop in the abundance and types of antibodies. That your body had previously obviously been making to protect you from these pathogens and so having found that it suggested that perhaps the measles virus was this destroying parts of your immune system while so you have a tool that can look for all the antibodies in somebody's blood. You looked at measles and you found that yeah it was there but then other antibodies. That should be there from other infections. Were down is that it. That's correct vary from person to person. But they were down between eleven eleven percent and up to seventy three percent of the total types of antibodies. Were completely missing well. How important are antibodies for functioning of are immune the system? Antibodies are the main protection from viruses and other pathogens. Your body every time it comes into battle with they New Pathogen. It makes a wide variety of antibodies to attack it. And then the neutralizes the pathogen and then. Your body accumulates knowledge and and continues to produce those protective antibodies throughout your life. And so this is the recorded history of your interactions with different pathogens pigeons and it protects you in the future and when you're affected with the measles virus what we found was that those antibodies that protection is sue suit diminished and. This is really important because this means that even though you fought and won a battle with a particular pathogen in the past asked and would therefore be protected for the rest of your life. Now you're become vulnerable again. You'll have to fight that battle over again and we think that's why right there is a greater risk due to the measles than we previously thought. Because not only do you have to survive the actual measles infection which is itself very deleterious. But now you're disadvantaged and the rest of your life with respect to battles that you'd previously fought and won and even though you fought them in one them wants what's before it doesn't mean that you will the next time because it could be your in a weakened state when you get those next pathogens and now you don't have the same weapons to protect it yourself. So what went through your mind when you realize that. The measles had this effect on the immune system. Well I we didn't really believe it right away. We couldn't believe it wasn't in some error on our part. So we really had to go through and re-examine this and retest these samples but one of the more convincing experiments we did was that we replicated these results in monkeys rhesus macaques who were infected with Uman measles virus and we found that they lost forty to sixty percent of their entire antibody. Repertoire that is the whole collection and diversity of different antibodies that they had previously made so we definitely convinced ourselves that that was in fact a real result in humans and it explained what they had seen in the D. logical studies studies were the vaccine had a much more protective effect in preventing childhood mortality than just preventing the people who directly died of the measles. And what this meant was that it wasn't that the vaccine was some special elixir that stimulated your immune system going forward but that what we found was that the measles virus much worse than we thought it not only kills people directly but it does so indirectly maybe five times as many people and this is particularly really bad and some of those areas of the world were healthcare is not as good as here in North America. How does the measles virus actually do that? How does it wipe out the memory? I'm from someone's immune system it attacks. Immune system it infects the cells the B cells and t cells that. Make up your immune. Cells and replicates replicates in kills them and most importantly it kills something called the long live plasma cells and they're basically the antibody factories you know once you make make these special antibodies cells that make them are then stored in your bone marrow protected and they can live for your entire life decades decades and the measles virus gets into kills those it also kills other types of immune cells that also are protective so measles has been a serious problem for for a very long time half a century ago. We developed an effective vaccine for it so it is preventable. If there's one message you'd like to get across the vaccine hesitant parents about getting measles vaccine. What would that be well? What that would be would be that? The measles are much more dangerous than we thought and and the vaccine is much more valuable but I also just want to say that one way to think about this. Is that getting the measles viruses like being in an accident for your immune. Dan System get causes. Damage that can lead to immune Amnesia and we're familiar with other types of Amnesia due to head injuries and stuff often in automobiles. But we have a way to deal with that and that is seatbelts. Everyone buckles up their kids and the vaccine is like a seat belt for your immune system. Dr Elhage. Thank you very much your time. Thank you very much. It's been a pleasure. Dr Steven Allege is a professor of genetics and medicine at the Brigham and women's Ms Hospital at Harvard. Medical School Paleontology had a big year in two thousand nineteen particularly cularly for our understanding of how dinosaurs died. We know sixty six million years ago. A giant asteroid or comet hit the earth and now we have have a picture of what happened next. We never knew what happened. In the first moments are hours after impact. Because that's sort of record is just not so precisely geologic record in this case case we're so excited because the deposit that we have actually records a snapshot in time from within the first two hours after impact that was Robert De Palma and he was part of a team behind study released back in April that set the paleontological world abuzz. He and his group had found. Direct evidence of animals was dying in the hours. Following the impact that took out seventy five percent of the world's species including the dinosaurs. The fossils were in a rock outcrop. Been North Dakota which was a lush valley sixty six million years ago. The impact that occurred at the Yucatan Peninsula Mexico had triggered seismic smick waves that traveled thousands of kilometers and caused a surge of roiling muddy water to roar up the river valley. We have an exposure of sediment sequence that preserves contorted and turbulent deposited beds from this massive surge of water jam packed in. There almost like a sardine. Can you have numerous numerous different fish and trees and other plants and terrestrial animals mixed in with marine organisms in this. Very very jumbled and chaotic deposit and also mixed in with this you have debris ejected what we call it that came down from the Chiluba Asteroid Impact Twenty nineteen held yet another surprise when researchers got an even closer look at the dinosaur killing impact in September scientists announced the results from a large offshore drilling expedition expedition directly into the center of the massive crater in the Gulf of Mexico. In other words they sampled ground zero. They drilled hundreds of meters into the sediments under the Gulf that covered the crater. They found broken rockin soon. Nami debris and reconstructed the series of events. That occurred in the minutes. I immediately after the impact. Here's Dr Timothy Brower. One of the scientists on the team and professor the Department of Geosciences at Penn State the university in this rock core that we found we find evidence for fire in charcoal layers. And so what likely happened. Is this major impact caused so much radiation that the radiation charred all of the vegetation around the Gulf of Mexico. So you had forests and palm trees and things going around the Gulf of Mexico and this fireball fireball swept out and charred that vegetation and it was brought back into the crater with as soon nami. If you're a dinosaur on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico you would have been fried by this severe radiation that took place within seconds of the impact but the longer term and most catastrophic outcome of this would have been a long period of global cooling caused by massive amounts of sulfur being injected into the atmosphere sulfur particles in the air can reflect solar energy back into space. This would have dropped the Earth's temperature by about twenty degrees which would have created an ecological collapse that ultimately led to the mass asks extinction that saw the dinosaurs and many other species disappear. And that's it for this week's edition of Quirks works in Quirks. If you'd like to get in touch with us just go to the contact Lincoln our web page and get to our webpage Goto. CBC DOT CA Slash Quirks. Where you can subscribe to our podcast? 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Greenland: Continent in Crisis

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Greenland: Continent in Crisis

"Greenland ice sheet has become a hotbed of climate change. Research in recent decades the alarming rate of warming being being observed has garnered attention from scientists across the globe including today's guest. Dr Tom from the University of Georgia he has ventured to the ice sheet himself. itself to observe and measure the rapidly changing landscape but his work also uses satellites to measure the changing continent today will discuss the science behind this incredible credible melting and how these changes are altering global sea levels water currents and even weather patterns. Tom Thank you for joining us on the weather. Beat podcast thank you for having me. Well this is a special treat because Tom Factually colleague of mine at the University of Georgia. I WANNA start off with a little of his background and then he's going to get the question that we always ask our weather other geeks guests Tom. The Associate Associate Dean in the Franklin College of Arts and Sciences at the University of Georgia he received his PhD from the University of Nebraska. Nineteen ninety before and he has a long list of achievements. I'm going to read some of them now and then we'll get into some of the others. He's a fellow of both the American Meteorological Society and the American Association Nation of Geographers He received the lifetime achievement award from the Climate Specialty Group and he's the distinguished research professor at the University of Georgia which is one of our highest I honors there at the university. He has many others. We'll get into those but first how did you get interested in weathering climate meteorology geography. All of these things that you do you know. I think I think I was like many young Boys girls who eventually became interested in meteorology climatology atmospheric science and that I was affected by I the weather that I saw when I was young and so I grew up outside of Chicago area in Northern Indiana and lake effect belt during the really cold. Winter's cold snowy winters of the mid to late nineteen seventies. And so I remember the winters of seventy six seventy seven. Seventy seven. Seventy eight vividly receiving receiving almost one hundred inches of snowfall. Some of those winters. And you know not only interesting climate but interested in those places that are cold interested in the crappiest fear. That's the frozen portion of the earth Snow Sea ice and that that really stuck with me. So was that so. This is unlike most of the guests that we hear on whether early on it sounds like this wasn't something later in your life that's always th even as a kid. This was something I it was interesting. I was back visiting my parents not long ago when they had some old papers from. When I was a middle school students sixth sixth grade? I believe it was and there was a sort of a career aptitude worksheet that we filled pulled out and at the time I mentioned my interest in meteorology climate science at that time. Yeah and and you know even though we're going to be talking mostly about Greenland. A continent attended in crisis. If you will. Tom Actually has done quite a bit of work on snow and precipitation. That's interesting work. I know he's doing in Puerto Rico right now. That's not cry as we were related. But I'M GONNA use host privileges here and we're GonNa talk a little bit about some of that a little later in the podcast but I want to circle back to Greenland Greenland before we really get into geeking out about green and even today in the news There's this extensive flooding in Venice with if you've been following what's going on there but it's a major flooding and Venison. It's a related high tides and whatnot. But the reason I'm bringing it up is The mayor of Venice in Italy has said that he blames climate change and so this circles back around to greenland because Greenland ice sheet. Glass fresh water there and people concerned about what's going on there so tell us why you became interested in doing research about Greenland. How how did you even get to their? That point started while I was a graduate student so I was at the University University Nebraska. Right did both of my graduate degrees and I had been working with my doctoral advisor on a project involving. Lci area he'd been working in using remote sensing housing to look at changes in the sea near Antarctica. Happened to have the opportunity to work with a gentleman passed away recently named Carl who had been the director for the Polar Ice Scoring Office and SF office that had been located at the University of Nebraska. He had been working in Greenland. We got to talking about all of the interesting science that was ongoing in Greenland and it really really is lead from there And so we took some of the tools that we have been using to look at. Ci Somewhat LC adapted it into looking at Greenland specifically looking at surface melt on the Greenland ice sheet. That ended up becoming a doctoral research project for me. I had to opportunity visit Greenland a couple of all times during my doctoral work and continued have an interest throughout my career and Greenland. Now you know again I just want to set the stage talking to Dr. Tom Moved from the University of Georgia. The distinguished research professor. He also has the creative research medal from the University of Georgia spent some time in Britain Brazil on a fulbright scholarship as well so this is a colleague that knows knows his stuff and has been properly acknowledged for that and in many ways now. If you visit the website I believe in s I d. He stands for the National Snow Ice and data center or something close status reason. I bring that up. Is that oftentimes one of the satellite. Based products that They use on their website to monitor diagnose whether Greenland's undergoing melt or any sort of anomalous mel periods is a product that Dr Mode and his group at the University of Georgia's producing using satellite. So let's just geek out on a one to one level because weather geeks listeners or crawl across the spectrum first of all how are you using satellite data or satellites to detect melt on the greenland. Ice Sheet I mean just the basics of that sure we're using microwave link AH wavelength radiation But unlike a say a weather radar where you're looking at an admitted pulse and you're looking at the back scattered energy in this case we're looking at the emitted microwave microwave energy from the snow and ice surface and you know snow and ice surface of Greenland. Obviously it's very cold. You have average temperatures that are well oh below zero Celsius but when you look at the microwave energy that's emitted from the ice sheet. It typically looks even much colder. It looks like the surface of the I should be something like minus one hundred Celsius when we know. It's not quite that cold. And so in fact what happens is the individual snow grains on the surface of the ice sheet will scatter scatter that radiation. So it doesn't it doesn't Travel upward toward the satellite. And it. It makes it look like the surfaces very cold but as soon as we start to see a little bit of melt on the surface of the ice sheet that effect quickly ends and it looks suddenly much warmer Closer the freezing point so we can see that really rapid increase in what we call the brightness temperature the emitted microwave energy from the surface of the ice as soon as melts starts. And so we've been able to use that going back to the late nineteen seventies in fact even with an earlier instrument to the early nineteen seventies to essentially map. How much of the surface of the ice sheet is melting on any given day gray and I know that I? I've been aware of your work for some time and I I know there was a particular event I believe it was two thousand twelve hundred twelve July twenty twenty two thousand twelve. There was a and I remember this kind of unfolding in real time because I remember talking to you a little about it as I recall I. I think you're even surprised at some of what you were saying. Can you walk us back to two thousand thousand twelve and why that particular melt of in Greenland Greenland with so significant and alarm. Scientists certainly You know I had been looking at mapping the surface purpose area of of The surface melt and the ice she'd sort of After the fact I hadn't really been doing any work on this in real time basis and of course we're we're looking at other aspects of climate associated with Both energy and the mass balance of the green dice sheet but I I hadn't been working in Greenland England I hadn't been working on side during the For a number of years leading up to twenty twelve I had a colleague of mine from Rutgers University away still continue to work with Mussa runner. Mom She happened to be working on the ice sheet at that time and she actually contacted me and she reached out and said you know. I'd like you to look at the satellite data real time because we're seeing something really really remarkable happening here the Watson River which is a major river that runs past a former. US Air Base at the formerly the Saunder. Strong airbase now the Greenlandic Greenlandic town of Kangerlussuaq saw the bridge. This bridge had been there for decades. Wash out this bridge washed out from meltwater coming off of the ice sheet. Said you need look at the satellite product and see what's happening and so we took a look at it and saw that essentially the entire surface of the ice sheet was melting. And something that we hadn't seen before including even even up to the highest elevations of the ice sheet that reach over ten thousand feet. That's over ten thousand feet above sea level so these are places where the average temperature is something like minus minus thirty Celsius and these are very called areas And you know we went on to publish some work from that. And some of the some of our colleagues who've who've looked at some of the ice cores from the what we call summit the highest elevation of the Ice Sheet. We're finding that they had not seen any ice layers that had formed Prior to this event Since the eighteen eighties and before that we think the last time that we saw melt event at the highest elevations of the she probably was somewhere around the year. Lebanon hundred so this was really an unusual event and anomalous event and certainly there is evidence that you've seen it before in the natural record because I know that there will be some. Okay well. I'm sure this has happened naturally. And I WANNA Kinda get into this sort of natural variability to weather related aspects of this and the climate change aspects but fast forward to recent sometimes as well and I'm going to read some notes provided by our producer of this particular podcast. They are dealing hand was a former student of both of ours. Yes they are dealing ham here at the at. The Weather Channel Sarah Rights on June thirteenth of this year twenty nineteen greenland experience more than two GIG tons of ice melt in one day you you were quoted in an article saying that this was unusual but not unprecedented. Now you've just given his contacts with two thousand twelve event tell us about why or how this more more. Recent event fits in the context with that event and other events. This year was a very interesting summer. So we had this very large melt event in twenty twelve in fact if you look at the amount of melt and the amount of mass loss from Greenland. We've seen this really accelerating loss through since about nineteen ninety eight and really peaking in twenty twelve. We saw a a year following that in two thousand thirteen. That was much cooler than we've seen in the past. Two decades are most for the past two decades but then again seen a number of years with Greater than average melt and greater than average loss of ice from the ice sheet but this year was really kind of unusual in that we saw a quite a bit of melt occurring on the sheet. But it occurred mostly very early in the summer season again really late in the summer season so we had this really large melt event loss of a lot of ice in early June. We typically you see a peak and Mel sometime around the beginning of July usually the first two weeks of July and we had fairly typical conditions this year but then we had a really large melt event again at at the very end of July and the beginning of August sort of which is sorta tends to be toward the end of the melt season in Greenland. That later event was particularly interesting because because it followed immediately after the European heatwave that occurred in late July so if you may remember we had this heatwave that occurred temperatures well above one hundred degrees Fahrenheit in parts of France France the Benelux countries across much of continental Europe. A few days later after that we saw another melt event across the started in eastern part of Greenland. Most of the time these melt events come across western Greenland move up higher and higher elevations. This one came across from the East eastern Greenland and. Actually we saw again melt at the highest just allocation of the ice sheet. This summer But we were able to go back. We've I'm I'm doing some work with students now. We're actually have been able to go back and track. The origins origins of this late July event to the European heat wave awhile and we are back on the weather. PODCASTS awesome talking with Dr. Tom Moat from the University of Georgia about all things Greenland from a science perspective He's studied greenland from satellites. He's been on on the Greenland ice sheet so he looks green from various perspectives whether they be atmosphere. Sciences related climatologically geographically. So we have the person if you I wanNA know about climate and Greenland and I wanNA kinda circle back to some sort of teaser. I mentioned earlier in the podcast where I was talking about sea level rise. Talk to us in the listeners. Owners about this sort of notion because you hear these sort of notions off Greenland Melts Sea Levels GonNa rise twenty feet or these types of things and we we know that the bit hyperbolic but talk about the importance of sort of this. These melt processes from standpoint of sort of Greenland in Christ feerick dynamics if you will but also from a sea level perspective. Why why do we care? What's the so what? Greenland is melting. Greenland has been one of the most Significant contributors to changes in global sea level. And it's also been one that over the past. Two decades has been increasing most rapidly so greenland by itself. I mean you're correct and that if you looked at the total amount of ice in greenland ice sheet and you were melt at all today it would contribute about twenty three feet to global double syllables. That's a tremendous potential contribution there the amount of the actual contribution that we have been seeing has been on the order of around a milimeter per year. So that's fairly small contribution it sound life. You know when you look at it. What a millimeter is that? It's not that much but of course this is cumulative and of course it's just one one contribution to global sea level It's interesting if you go back and look at the one thousand nine hundred sixty nine hundred. Seventy eight hundred thousand. Nine hundred eighty s greenland was basically in balance. We were seeing about as much snow falling as we were losing through melting and through icebergs calving off along the margins It's really been since it's about the late. Nineteen Ninety S that we've seen an accelerating loss of mass from the Ice Sheet. Give you kind of a sense of numbers and and and by the way we have some other really cool satellite tools that we've been able to use to look at the total mass balance of the sheet. One of them is an instrument called grace. And I don't know if that's something. You've talked gasping for mentioned grace's a really really cool but feel free to sort of talk about how it's sort of irrelevant to this particular problem. These twin satellites that are very sensitive to gravity metric changes so we can use that to essentially way the ice sheet. Yeah and when you do that you can actually see how somewhat like myself pick up a little bit of master in the winter when I go to the holiday season eat a little bit too much. Pick up a little bit of mass. You can see that with the ice sheet to gains mass over. The winter is a snow is falling. But it's not losing much right and then during the summer you can see these very rapid losses of mass and then from year to year. You can track what the total mass loss is. And so it was really great satellite tool that that went back from Two Thousand and two recently. We lost gray satellite but then of course we now have the grace follow on mission that started producing scientific data this year. We extend that record back in time through the use of models bottles and through the use of other kinds of satellite data like landside imagery. And we know that through the nineteen sixty s and nineteen seventies nineteen eighties that Greenland was. Roughly in balance it was gaining about not as much is through. Snowfall was losing through melting icebergs calving off but again since about one thousand nine hundred. We've seen a very significant loss of mass us from Greenland on the order in the past decade or so of about two hundred and eighty giga tons of ice per year. Roughly takes about three hundred sixty giga tons of ice tweet Equal One millimeter of sea level rise. So yes so. There's there's the so what I think. Many climatologists see Greenland and and West. Arctic ice sheet and others as sort of bellwethers canaries in coalmines. If you will I know some people are wondering because you mentioned past melt events before we had satellites. How do we get that type of information? Before the era of satellite so a couple of ways one is that we have we do have temperature records and we can use those temperature records with models that we have to be able to even though the temperature records themselves are the long term temperature records from coastal stations. That are not on the ice sheet. Only there's about ten percent of them. The margin of Greenland has not covered by ice. But we can use that with models to You you know to reconstruct what the melt record looked on the ice sheet but we also can look at course you can actually look at annual layers in the ice cores and you can see where there are melt layers that formed. That's how we know for example that this twenty twelve event and again twenty nineteen event that occurred at the top of the ice sheet. We know that there were previous melt events again in the eighteen eighties and then back Prior to that during essentially the medieval warm period yeah and these climate proxies are very commonly used using climate science. We use ice cores. We have a colleague at the University of Georgia that core does lake sediment cores tree rings. And I often get that question. And they're quite accurate. Would you when you get the question. How how accurate are these ice cores? What do you say I mean it's you can see very clearly the annual newell layers in these cores going back for Many cases thousands of years We could also date these quite accurately. There's certain events that we know so in terms of volcanic eruptions or even nuclear testing. We can use to date very particular years in those records and then going back further in time we have enough. Ah other kinds of records that you can put them together and get very accurate reconstructions of dates certainly within the past few thousand years and really very accurate reconduction reconstructions much further back in time. That talking with Dr. Tom Mode climatologists at the University of Georgia one of the most significant scientists look to be a fellow of two major professional all societies as a significant honor. So I always liked establish that you hear here on whether we're getting experts that can cut through a lot of what you might hear about the science and give you the the science as you need to understand in here it's a we rethink doctor. Tom Over taking time to appear on weather geeks. I want to shift a discussion. To sort of causation. With with these melt events these episodic events and then perhaps the longer term changes. Because I know from some of your work that there are these things that are happening. In the atmosphere we can geek out onto weather terms talking about atmospheric rivers and blocking highs sort of weather related. So let's talk about sort of perhaps these sort of short term weather related influences influences on these melt events and then maybe a larger context climate change. Certainly I mean a lot of our work. In the last five years has really been focused on looking at atmospheric blocking patterns Saturn's and how they are associated with Large Melt events on green that we know for example with this twenty event that we saw very pronounced atmospheric blocking blocking pattern that set up across the North Atlantic. Now when you say blocking pattern for those that may not know what a block or are you talking about a large blocking high. So we're talking about a large blocking Ridge located it across the North Atlantic Persistent in time Bringing in many cases You know on its Western flank. Also affecting lar- warm humid air masses up across the ice sheet And and we see these blocking patterns tend to be very persistent across greenland and when we have a negative face to the North Atlantic Oscillation. Now there's a nice geeky term that we probably need to spend a little time onto. What's the Arctic Oscillation? Well in this case we're just talking about the the North Atlantic Oscillation which is related to the okay and the North Atlantic. Oscillation is essentially a seesaw in pressuring temperatures between the Sub Tropics of the the Atlantic in the higher latitudes of the Atlantic and so when we have a positive phase we tend to have higher pressure and warmer temperatures in the tropics when we have a negative as we tend to have higher temperatures and higher pressures in the northern portion of the Atlantic. And we we see that we tend to see these persistent blocking patterns occur that are often often if they occur in the summer or often associated with large melt events in large mass loss events across greenland. So that's one of the things we've looked at. And then with one of my former PhD HD students who is now at Rutgers University. Kyle mattingly. We've been really looking at these. Atmospheric River Events So atmospheric rivers are a phenomenon especially those in the Western. The United States are very familiar with think about the pineapple express bringing in these plumes of moisture into the West. We also know that atmospheric rivers are very important for injecting moisture into the Arctic. And we find that when these atmospheric river events are active that they're bringing in at they're bringing in warm air but they're we're also bringing in in many cases thick low water bearing clouds that are also very important in melt processes in the ice sheet because these low oh liquid liquid phase clouds Produce a lot of down welling long wave energy that helps keep the ice sheet warm and leads to these. He's melt events right. So we see that there are these meteorological connections and so important point. I want to make here because there are some in the world that say climate scientists Sir overreacting and they sort of just jumped right to the climate change Lincoln. Now what you just heard Dr Mo talk about sort of atmospheric circulation relation and patterns that we know are associated with these melts events and you had mentioned earlier this. Most recent event in two thousand nineteen was very much related to the extreme heat wave in Europe. And I'm sure that's related to the the Ridge blocking pattern that you heard him talk about however we cannot sort of divorce ourselves from the notion that there are changes ages that may be happening in the Greenland ice sheet. That are happening. I'M GONNA say related to sort of a warming climate system too so we know. The climate system is warming atop set put. PUT IT in perspective. The broader responses of Greenland to the broader climate changes certain angry. And there's no doubt that grew the green dye she'd Climate Agreement Ice Sheet and therefore I four the mass balance. The loss of ice from the ice sheet is related to the warming in the Arctic. And we know that the warm in the Arctic is amplified compared to what we see see in lower latitudes so And that's been documented very clearly just simply by looking at the temperature records from Greenland so we can see this correspondence between increasing temperatures coastal greenland and increasing matt loss of mass over the last several decades particular last last two decades from the ice sheet. And we are talking with Dr Tom Mode as we come back to the weather. Other GEEKS podcasts. He's a distinguished research professor at the University of Georgia's Associate Dean in the Franklin College of Arts and Sciences and has received numerous awards for his work over the years in climatology geography atmospheric scientists and so forth really honored to have him here today because I consider him one of the world's top experts on by the way you can check out a couple of pieces that he wrote in the hill which is a journalistic outlet and they sought his expertise during doing the twenty one thousand nine hundred post two thousand nineteen melt events so if you want to read a little bit more about some of his store thoughts on this most recent event definitely check out now his work and writing in the hill so If you just do a google search on Tom Odin the hill. I bet you find it now. I WANNA come back to some of the more local and regional impacts on these melts events for for example when we get these melt events how is it affecting the local ecosystems or perhaps even the marine environment so we we actually had a a very interesting project with my colleagues Tissue Hager Renato cast allow at the University of Georgia and colleagues at Stanford University Columbia University and Rutgers University. I was supported by NASA where we were looking at the interaction between climate greenland mass balance. Run off of meltwater the ocean circulation and the nearby sees and then ocean productivity Really really fascinating work. I think showing that when we see these large runoff off events from Greenland. Of course there's freshwater goes into the Atlantic Ocean It influences the the essentially the depth of this Freshwater freshwater layer. This creates this freshwater lens at the surface that affects essentially the ability of phytoplankton to To be productive and so A very complicated picture. Because it's not just related to the amount of meltwater that's running from the Greenland ice sheet but it's also related to wind patterns and and the resulting ocean circulation patterns as well too But we certainly do see a significant influence of Greenland meltwater runoff on ocean productivity in Baffin Bay for example Labrador Sea. And it's really interesting. This is something that may be lost on people that just. Don't don't think about these things every day but the differences between this sort of influx of freshwater into the ocean which is a saltwater system has significant influences on things like the large thermal hailing leaner conveyor belt circulation. If you ever saw the movie the day after tomorrow That movie was talking about the sort of disruption or shutdown of that circulation in the world. Weather were crazy and of course the things that happened in a move your Hollywood. They're not gonNA really happen at that scale. But it's important to sort of note that by the way another the weather geek tidbit bid just something I do. And I'm just a geek like that. Sometimes when I go to restaurants I will take the glass and mixed Diet Soda with sort of a very sweet so to like a mountain dew. Do and just because they're of different densities. Watch what happens when you put one in. I put the other in and you can see the difference in densities and we're talking about fluids and so some of those it's simple concept of what we're talking about. We talk about fresh water and salt water. Now the producers actually wanted me to ask you about the connection Saharan dust list to greenland. Yes this was sort of a some research that Just an opportunity that came out of the blue with a colleague at And why You New York universities Abu Dhabi campus. They have a center for sea level research located there. They have a scholar there who was looking at Saharan dust transport report and she was noticing this dust transport actually into the North Atlantic across Europe and wanted to determine what kind of influence there was on melting the process on Greenland. I mean the surface agreement is she does very sensitive to the reflective veto snow obviously very bright reflective once it starts starts to melt and refreeze becomes a little bit darker absorbs more energy. Eventually you melt away all of the seasonal snow cover you get down to glacial ice. It absorbs even more energy but we also have other sort of contaminants if you will whether at the Black Carbon from fires in the Arctic weather. It's Dust that might be in this case. Come from the Sahara. Another actual Something else that we're really interested in that has a significant effect on the reflectively. Activity of the ice is blue green algae so we see cyanobacteria and that has a very large influence on the reflectively. So there are areas. Appreciate that have been documented does darkening over the last several years now Saharan. Dust is probably not the most important player here but people I know you and I know a colleague Jason Box that talks about suit in sort of black carbon. Jason has been looking at black carbon. He's also there. There are others Colleagues I now I was just talking to when I had a recent visit rutgers university diversity. We're looking at the influence of cyanobacteria on reflectively Particularly within these river systems that develop on the surface of the ice as it starts to melt in the summer Jason Box who used to be at Ohio State University is now at the Danish Meteorological Institute And the University of Copenhagen he Actually has a satellite product where he looks at how bright the surface of the ice sheet is and he's been able to clearly document darkening of the surface of the ice sheet over time as we've seen this increased melt. Take your your eyes are. Your eyes are sensitive to some of these very processes that we're talking about a very bright sunny day and yet a fresh snow cover. Are you ever heard of the concept of being snow blind. And that's because of the High Albie reflective of snow and you're I is a remote sensor. It's this using the visible where somebody's satellite so using different parts of the electromagnetic spectrum so this is really a good discussion of how we use some of those remote sensing techniques to study various aspects of the the system system. Now I want to kind of shift to sort of a final phase of questioning. I WANNA stay in crisis for your second name. We're going to go some different places but again whether we really do like to geek out out in sort of educate our listeners. Talk to us about what. What the Ice Alberto feedbacks are and why we're where we're concerned about? Sort of changes in ice cover for in the Arctic region as a whole because we often hear about that positive feedback Aso when we talk about Arctic amplification. We're talking about increased warming in the Arctic relative to lower latitudes and there are different reasons for that one of the one of the reasons actually has to do with Atmospheric Water Vapor Water Vapor of courses greenhouse gases. Well but some of it also has to do with the decreases in the snow and ice covered surfaces so it could be a loss of seasonal snow cover and we know that we've had a significant loss of seasonal snow cover in springtime. Bring Time you've got you've done work in that area. I have my colleague Dave Robinson at Rutgers University this is an area with it. He's he's carefully documented or the changes in spring snow cover across us the northern hemisphere loss of. That's been well documented. That has an effect of course in the winter. High latitudes are going to be dark anyway so the Oh feedback is not going to be as important during the winter. It will be much more important during than during the summer. Of course right now the other thing that I wanted and I've been getting a lot of questions about this particularly regularly. As we've moved out of the Paris agreement those types of things you often hear scientists talk about tipping points in the climate system and why we need to keep warming below two degrees Celsius or even one point five degrees Celsius. Do you consider greenland a tipping point and if it is what at what point does it. You know. That's a really interesting question because there's a lot of debate about that right now regarding whether we've actually reached a tipping point with Greenland and essentially we've reached a point where we're beyond where we could recover Stable will BASS balance for the ice sheet. And I think that's still an open area of scholarship at this point. I don't think we have definitive answer for that yet. But Y- It's it's interesting to compare greenland to Antarctica for just a minute so greenland has only about a tenth of the ice that Antarctica has About ninety percent of the freshwater in the globe is tied up in the Arctic. Ice Sheet about nine percent in Greenland ice sheet but Antarctic is right over the South Pole Greenland. Actually the extends quite far south down well below the Arctic circle in fact the southern tip of Greenland is comparable to some of the capital cities of Scandinavia address. Awesome latitude you if you fly from Europe to the US Green on noticing that in the past exactly high flow of their over southern Greenland en route to Europe before as well Al and so because it sits relatively relatively low latitude it is much more susceptible to melting than most of the Antarctica. She does now. There are other reasons why we might be why we are concerned about the Antarctica sheet as well But just in terms of the the summer melting that we see it's much more pronounced on the greenland the Nike because of the relatively low latitude. No I know. We're doing a multi part series on greenland for the weather gets podcast and we spoke with Dave Malkov who spent some time. I am on a glacier there in Greenland I. I don't even know if we're gonNA PRONOUNCE IT correctly. But during my time at NASA colleagues were talking about the is it starts with a J. Kayce often jockettes Saban glacier and I know that people have been monitoring its rate of change if you will How is it and other glaciers doing general greenland so we've seen Over the past few decades and accelerated loss of mass. So when you think about we talk about the mass balance of the Ice Sheet we have snow that lands on in on on on the surface of the ice sheet eventually compresses into fern and then glacial ice and then we have two different ways in which we can lose ice we could have melting of the surface that meltwater L. water forms rivers drains into what we call mullins which actually holes in the ice drain down to the base and then usually it comes out beneath the surface of the of the ice sheet along the margins the other ways that we can calve off icebergs at the margins as well too especially for glaciers that end in Marine Marine Marine terminating glaciers and in the Ocean Yaacob Saban is one of the fastest moving ice streams on the globe so the ice itself. I always tell my students. It's not like a giant. Ice Cube cubits dynamic. It's flowing out to the margins. Some of these areas are flowing very fast. Some of them are flowing fairly slow. Yaacob Savas an area on the west coast of Greenland where the ice is moving very very fast. And it's a beautiful area. If you get to go to the town of yaacob Saban Disko Bay area there. there's a hotel. Tell the Arctic Hotel where you have this beautiful beautiful view actually of the ocean and all of the icebergs capping off into the ocean there But it's actually said that there's no way to really know this but it said that the iceberg that sunk. The titanic probably came off the Nice little weather Geek tidbits that you might not hear anywhere else. I actually want to use this last segment of the the podcast. Now because Dr Modes an expert Chrysler Processes Greenland and whatnot. But I I know because and colleague of his first of all he does a lot of other interesting things so talk about some of your more recent research that is not necessarily cry for for example. I know you're involved in and let me by the way. Dr Mona has has worked funded by NASA Noah National Science Foundation. US Far Service and and many others. Because you know he's been able to to successfully convey his science and it's dutiful and useful science and so he can acquire funding and so he uses satellite perspective uses uses remote sensing a operations models so forth. Talk about what you're up to in Puerto Rico. That's been a threat of research so we've been involved in for about the past last six or seven years now was actually a project. I believe that they originally wanted to entrain. You say by the time are you were you were tied up they were. They were very interested in looking at the influence of climate. Change on these these rich areas of biodiversity in eastern Puerto Rico in the Luquillo mountains near San Juan. So if you've ever had a chance to go to San Juan maybe you've been there on a cruise ship. You could actually look out in the distance and you can see these mountains in an often. People visit Puerto Rico will have a chance to take a visit. Have a chance to go. Inland and visit these mounds really Stunningly beautiful area But the question is how is climate change influencing ecosystem of these mountains and so our task with his Long Term Ecological Research Program at Luquillo. Puerto Rico has been looking at Particularly the role of drought and hurricanes on On on this really unique setting a one of the things that we've done recently was to look at you mentioned Saharan dust earlier. We've been looking at the role of Saharan dust in producing producing droughts in this region And we're continuing to to Look at other mechanisms associated with drought in this area. Too because we do expect. The droughts will become more frequent and more intense with changing climate in the Caribbean particularly. This part of the Caribbean. Yeah and I think Dr Mo makes a great point about Extreme events and sort of this notion retribution sciences which is becoming quite a significant in the research field what we expect to happen happen in current or contemporary extreme weather events and I based on things that I've talked to him about before. That area is a particularly sensitive area in terms of drought to some of these changes. We're we're seeing we. We are winding down now. But I I want to ask Dr Mo the put on his sort of bigger picture here. He's a leader in the field. I mean he's A. He's a leader in science sci. He's been on sort of the Executive Council of the G in has all of these awards. He's an associate dean at a major research university decide. I want to just ask one final question. If you're talking to the broader public what would you say about the importance of in and I know you're in your portfolio Roleo. Uga You deal with the sciences. Would you say about the importance of scientific research and development. And how does that sort of get to their lives. What are the what is what is your view on the overall research enterprise and I just think people we are very familiar with it? But I'm always interested in thoughts colleagues about how we can convey to the broader public imports. The research I mean is really the oh I mean it's the Beckett is that we have to learn about the world around us so I mean I think particularly in this time it's really important to talk about evidence evidence base whether we're talking about social systems whether we're talking about natural systems The the importance of of really carefully scrutinizing evidence that's available I mean this comes up in the climate change debate. There's a I I know you hear this question more often than I do. Do you believe in climate change. But it's it's not a question of belief it's a question of looking at evidence and we're evidence points us and that's what really signs is all about is looking at critically looking at evidence evidence Drawing hypotheses testing those hypotheses based on that evidence and taking us where it leads us on a place like the univer again. I want you to where your university university had a little bit of places like the University of Georgia. Since that's where you are I am. How does that a university and we'll use that? I mean we're talking about any university how they play a role as a university because it's more than just teaching students which is a valuable part of our mission. But how how the how the universities sort of inject this knowledge allege into the state local national international sort of stakeholder and plum practitioner practices. If you will you know it's interesting. I think particularly as a public institution more The first State Charter University in the in the country at the University of Georgia and particularly as a as representatives hundreds of public institution. I think we have an obligation to the people of the state of Georgia People more broadly but particularly the people of the state of Georgia to share. What we've learned it's not not enough for us to just kind of keep it to ourselves And I think that there are many ways than we do that I think the University of Georgia for example has a really tremendous public look service and outreach function that reaches touches all corners of the state. And so I'm constantly impressed by my colleagues in the work that they do in in what we call our PSI unit. I think the kinds of things that you do whether through this podcast or the other kinds of outreach activities that you were engaged in that are more for broad-based based publicly focused I think are also important I think the many of our colleagues are actively reaching out in the popular press as well L. Too. I think all of those forms of engagement are really important. I don't think there's sort of any one particular form of engagement that is privileged your most important. I think all of the above approach here in terms of really communicating the science. That that we're working on to the to the public the public of our state absolutely I uh I know you're on twitter. And what's your twitter handle of people WanNA follow you at T. L. Note. Okay not at Te'o mode so definitely give him a follow and Tom. I want to thank you as a colleague. And it's a friend for coming on the weather GEEKS podcast. Because I knew you'd be a great yes to really break down the science in a way that are listenership can really understand it. So thank you for joining joining us and thank you for having me. And that's been another episode of the weather Geeks podcast if you want more. Refugees continue to follow us. If you are following US or if you're new go follow us on twitter at weather geeks were also on facebook. We'll see you next time on weather. Geeks I'm Dr Marshall Shepherd From University of Georgia

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Real-Life Political Violence Fuels Fiction in The Abstainer

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Real-Life Political Violence Fuels Fiction in The Abstainer

"This episode is brought to you by the House of Chanel for Gabrielle Chanel reading was a refuge which allowed her to invent her own destiny. Right from childhood literature became a passion she shared with the love of her life boy Capelle and her friends like Cocteau Colette. Peer Review Eddie and Max. Jacob. She hoped the also she'd mind without them knowing she read for inspiration and then became an inspiration herself. Watch the film, Gabrielle, Chanel and literature at inside Chanel Dot Com. who were the Manchester murders and how do they figure into Ian Maguire's new book the author of the award winning novel the North Water will be here to talk about his latest novel, the abstainer. What makes a great thriller with enough meat on its bones to discuss in a book club? Elizabeth Egan will be here to talk about Roomy House Men's dear. Child. Alexander alterable give us an update from the publishing world plus we'll talk about what we and the wider world or reading. This is the Book Review Podcast From The New York Times it's October twenty third I'm Pamela Paul. Maguire joins us, now he is the author previously of the North Water, which was one of our best books of two thousand sixteen. His new novel is called the abstainer and he joins us from Manchester England in thanks for being here. Thanks very much for inviting mate MEMELA. So this is historical fiction. It's history that's probably largely familiar to many of your Irish and perhaps some English readers, but maybe not to American so set the scene for us in the abstainer. The novel opens with an actual historical event which occurred in Manchester in November eighteen, sixty seven, and it was a a public hanging of three Irishmen. It will all members of the Irish Republican Brotherhood, which was a secret society dedicated to the overthrow of British rule an island. And the members were popularly known as the. Fenian. So three, these three Irishmen had hanged for the murder of. Of Manchester Policeman who had been killed? During an. A successful attempt to free prisoners from a prison van which was moving from the center of the city to the prison on the outskirts was ambushed by about forty phoenicians with revolvers and axes and knives, and during that attack, the policeman who was guarding the van was killed in in circumstances were never completely clarified but ended up with these three men being being publicly hanged one of the final public hangings that happened in Britain and that was the seed for. The novel in my mind, and that's that's the event which opens the novel in Chapter One. So these three men were known as the Manchester Martyrs they became known as Manchester. Malta's yes very soon after after this incident. So it was seen as a kind of overreach by the British government. In many ways, it was a big question about whether it was actually murdered up because the policeman may well have been killed by accident and they're also very large question marks. Over whether any of the three men, it actually pulled the trigger. So they very quickly became seen as martyrs to the close of Irish republicanism, and there were parades in all of island I think in the United States uncertain Irish. And that will monuments erected to these three men the Manchester Malta's in island I think aspect of the plot of the world as well. Is this a story that you grew up familiar with and and if so what made you want to return to it for this book? Actually no that was one of the that's one of the reasons why I I, was intrigued by. So I came across this when I was doing research for the North Water and I was surprised in sleight embarrassed I didn't. Know about this because I've lived in Manchester Fo- for a long time and I think I know something about history but it so it is an incident which has been largely not entirely but I would say largely forgotten within the UK it is known about with an island of course. So that was one of the reasons why what attracted me that it was something that hadn't really been written about very much an had been in some ways forgotten about. So so it seemed like it was fresh ground for a novelist but what about the story made it kind of fertile territory for novel for you once I sort of began to think it might work is a novel than I dug into Deepa. Began thinking about how might become a novel and it became clear to me that it was going to be a novel about political violence really and about you could call it terrorism I mean the the are sometimes cold a a sort of early version of a terrorist organization and I think that's a reasonable description of them although it still controversial one so that that intrigued me very much that I was going to I was going to be writing about men who have prepared to kill and die for Political Kohl's in order to do that I would have to stop thinking about what psychologically allowed them to do that and that also made. Me Feel although this was gonna be a novel about the eighteen sixties. It was also conveyed novel which had residences for the present day because of course, terrorism is is very much still with us and in. Manchester. Indeed. Only about three years ago we had a lodge terrorist incident. So so it did seem to me a story which would work for the twenty first century even though it was set in the nineteenth how close did you feel like you have to stick to the history and writing about real people I mean that that feel like a weight on you did it feel like a responsibility? Did it feel like an opportunity? Yes. As a historical novelist or right to writing about the past, you do have a responsibility to get things right as far as you can I think and I I have tried to do that in terms of the details and When the raw if the RAW. People than trying to be true or as true as one can to the record of who they are I. Think one thing. One thing that I've discovered in Bahrain in the North West Randall. So this nobody abstainer is is is how large the kind of gaps are in the historical record and I, suppose that's the US a great opportunity for the Nautilus that there is so much that isn't known about that. You have to fill in those gaps in you have to. Use your imagination to imagine what may have happened and I think what you try and do is use your imagination in a way which coincides with what you do with. What's the wreck hold seems to fit together even though you can't be hundred percent. Sure. That's what may have happened. Did you set out certain rules for yourself in terms of do this but not that I mean I suppose the general rule I always have is is you stick to the record unless? The something in the story which really sort of prevents you doing that and then I think when when you get to those points, you have to decide whether changing the history and some why is kind of ethically? Okay. So that's the only kind of general rule. I have an idea didn't feel distorted much or anything in the history here although I do imagine a hypothetical history because after the hangings of course that were all kinds of rumors of revenge that would be taken by the Phoenicians and all kinds of plans plots that they supposedly had and what novel imagines is, what would have happened If, one of those plans actually took place we our main character is fictional. Say you didn't have to worry too much there. Tell us about head constable James O'Connor the abstainer of your title. Yes. That's right. So he is a fictional character although he is based on actual people. So he is a Dublin policeman who is sent to Manchester to help control the Phoenicians in helped get to try and get to the bottom of of that plots and the were the where indeed Irish policeman who was sent over to Manchester and Liverpool and Glasgow to perform that that task. So he's based on generally on. On those people but more specifically has more particular back story and a history which is particular to him. So he's he is the abstainer of the title and what's happened to him in Dublin his his wife has died and in his grief he's turned to drink. And instead of being simply dismissed from the police force, they've allowed him to go to Manchester as an opportunity to stop again and to dry out in the novel opens he's in that process. So he's he's not drinking and he's still grieving his wife but looking for ways to escape from that grief. Why is that the title of the book? The abstain are, what is it about that type of person recovering alcoholic or addict that interested you? A few different reasons I think I think the idea of someone who is kind of on the edge. has this demon which said battling I think that's an kind of intriguing thing to have your protagonist struggle with I think with someone in that position. There's always a sense of them. So teetering on the brink and that I think adds something interesting. And those in terms of the title I, just I just liked the term, the idea of the upstairs. In the sense that although he's literally in upstate new intensity abstains from drink he's also someone is kind of a little bit withdrew on lots of otherwise and is not quite attaching himself to the world as you might do. So it seemed to have larger ramifications. Is it about denial to in a larger way? I think. So yes, I mean I think he's he's a man who's kind of separated from his context to me out of his way from his home doesn't really fit in in Manchester. and He's struggling to find a new way to engage with life I. Think. Of Two Irishmen out of their element in this novel, the other main character here is Stephen Doyle in Irish American, who is in England? Who is he an on? HOW DOES HE ENDED UP IN MANCHESTER? Doyle is a is an irish-american veteran of the American civil war and Athenian. A member of the member of the Secret Society, and he has been sent to Manchester to take revenge for the hangings. So. He arrives in Manchester early in the novel Andy, begins plotting, his revenge, and then the novel becomes a kind of cat-and-mouse game between Heyman. O'Connor. To See who can succeed whether whether doyle can achieve his revenge or whether a conflict him again doyle is based very much on on characters who around at the time. So the number of. Civil war veterans who became heavily involved in the battle for Irish Republican independence. So doyle again based on historical figures. In that regard, you mentioned earlier that you came across this historical incident while you were working on the north water in your novels. Do you feel like you're sort of working along a continuum Gen- generally or is it with each book you sort of see it as a departure in an effort to do something different from what you did in the previous work. With the last two novels with with. Epstein. Renewal for set in the same decade or almost the same decade I, think the northwest is the end of the eighteen fifties in this is the end of the eighteen sixties. So the connections in that regard but the same time they're all in my mind sort of significant differences, most obvious differences being the setting the no for to set in Baffin Bay and you know the sense of the landscape of ice and snow being very important that novel whereas. The urban setting Manchester in the eighteen sixties the world's first industrial city. Is equally important but so strikingly different I think the North Wiltshire. The North Walter is. GonNa. blindingly. White novel wears this all about the shadows and darkness and so on. Supposed to answer the question I think there are both continuities and differences when I begin a new novel spend. The first month associated slightly shaking off the old woman sort of finding out who the new characters are, and you have to kind of avoid just repeating yourself in that way what stuck with you from the north water like what was heartache like Oh of? Henry drax the real villain of the north water an amazing. Yeah I mean he's such a powerful character and it took me a while to shake off his influence. It's funny 'cause I mean the northwest is being adapted for TV and Colin Farrell I I. wanted to ask because it just had to be. Yes. Yes. It's being adapted primarily for BBC but I'm sure it will be shown in the US but Colin Farrell is playing Henry drax and I went out to see the filming I spoke to call him a little bit and he said you know he's he's a hard character to shake off. He. was beheaded. I. Believe me I'm aware were you involved at all in the production of TV show? Not Directly? No in that. So that was fine with me. I. Mean. It's it was written by directed by wonderful right to direct to name Andrew. And it was clear from the start that he was going to do the screenplay. So I'm a he showed me what he did and I was very, very happy with it and I think writing screenplays arising novels is very different skill. So I was happy to sit back and let them let them do it but I think he's going to be wonderful when it comes out all. Right, I'm already looking it in terms of common threads between the two novels. It was notable to me I'm assuming you're reading reviews and that this won't be to you but both comb toy e and his review of the North Water and Roddy Doyle in his review of the abstainer this new novel, compare your writing to that of Joseph Conrad I mean, which is not a bad thing. Is He a conscious influence on your work is that someone you grew up reading and admiring? He is absolutely someone I grew up reading an admiring yellow through. My twenties in university and so on. So yeah, he's he's fantastic. Fantastic writers go. It's a tremendous compliment to be compared to him. I think in this particular novel, he was a direct influence the in the north ratched because he wrote. Is Noble. The secret agent was was a novel that I read early on when I was thinking about whether this would work commits a novel about. Sort of terrorists an amicus terrorists in London in the beginning of the twentieth century I. Think. That plotting to blow up the Greenwich Observatory he offices fantastic. So portrait of these kind of gang of NAFTA wells and strange that of fanatical intellectuals and so that was really helpful to me as a way of imagining what this this group of terrorists might be like how they might talk to each other. So yeah, he was he was tremendously helpful for this. Novel. All right. Well, I. I. Hope I don't embarrass you but I also have to bring up to other names that you've been compared to in both in the previous book and in this Cormac McCarthy. With regard to the North Water and then in this one for this one Charles Dickens I'm curious when you hear these kind of par sensitive what runs through your mind. Well again, just flat, the very flattering and it's wonderful to amazing to. See. Myself. In the same sentence, I think it's different McCarthy absolutely as as a conscious influence particularly on on the North Wolf through when I was beginning to write the north water. I it was very different from my snorkeling I. I wasn't sure how to write a historical novel how to write in a way that I liked or would enjoy and I thought about. His blood meridian is great masterpiece. A, went back unread that that became tremendously helpful in terms of how to. How to write about the past and and how to particularly particularly how to handle landscape he's he's astonishing in his way handled landscape dickens again, like Conrad is on call at red since you know a teenager, I mean I think with with this novel I think. You know it's the city really I mean Dickens is is a great novelist of the Victorian. City. I'm in his cities London but again, he's very helpful about imagining. Imagining what the Nineteenth Century City was actually like I mean Dickens did those famous night walks where he couldn't sleep you would just walk around London and that feeds into his anti novel. So yeah, I think I. I did definitely go back to Dickens just as a way of reminding myself what the what the terrain of the nineteenth century British city was like the fog, the fog, the shadows, the soot I mean. That's the amazing thing that you see even if you see photographs from the Early Twentieth Century Manchester because of the smoke everything is black. Buildings Look like they've been carved from coal. It's kind of an amazing thing. All right listener start with black start with. The soot, the the dark shadowy Manchester novel then go to the North Water for the white novel, and then by the time you're done hopefully that BBC series will be out over here or wherever you are watching TV in. Thanks so much for being here. Thanks so much Pamela I've enjoyed it very much Ian. Maguire's new book is called the abstainer. So here's a request for our listeners. I get lots of feedback from us some complaints, lots of kind words really appreciate it. You can always reach me directly at books at NY TIMES DOT COM I will write back but you can also if you feel move to do so review us on any platform where you download the podcast whether that's I tunes or Stitcher Goo play or somewhere else please feel free to review, and, of course, email us at any time. Elizabeth Egan joins us now from Montclair new. Jersey to talk about her latest pick for group taxed Liz being here. Pamela. Thank you for having me. So your pick this month for October is a thriller. Tell us about Romi House Men's dear child. Well, this is the first thriller I've chosen for group text. Because I. Think Thrillers Are Underrated As as book club reads and this one in particular caught my eye because. It tells a story that I am inclined to enjoy. It's an escape story begins with a woman leaving a small cabin in the woods where she's been held captive, and she's making a mad dash for freedom and she's being trailed by a little girl who calls her mama and you quickly start to wonder if she is in fact, the mother of this little girl and. What unfolds is a story of a woman who has suffered. Pretty unimaginable abuse who is rebuilding her life and you piece together. This story of her captivity, it's both upsetting and also thought provoking and has a huge twist about a quarter of the way through. All right. Well, I love upsetting in which you know, but I also want to assure people that we're not going to reveal any plot twists here. So we will not go past that quarter of the way through to talk about what that twist is. Just if you're worried about that listeners stop worrying I promise we won't spoil the plot. How much is plot a factor for you liz as a reader of thrillers I would say when it comes to thrillers for me plot is. Just, about everything because I'm not really coming for lyrical language or issues to sink my teeth into although in this book, you do get those as a bonus but the plot is what propels you through the character development is also excellent is it those extra that made? You think? Okay, this could be a book club thriller because I imagine a lot of them right? There's not enough there to maybe keep you going absolutely absolutely in this case, there's very interesting side. About media coverage of kidnapping and how media coverage effects be investigation outcome and also the family's experience of missing someone they love Liz I feel like I detected you a kindred soul in that. Are you a reader of kidnapping memoirs Pamela I'm ashamed to tell you I read them all. What's the Best I love Elizabeth Smart's books I think she has written two books at this point. But I followed her case really closely and I find her cheek on her survival really inspiring and also of course really sad what about Jaycee Dugard? She wrote a book go around the same time about her own experience. Yes. I also read that one and I, followed her case very very closely I feel uncomfortable comparing survivor stories they're very you know Elizabeth Smart and Jaycee Lee Dugard's books. Quite different but yes, I've read them both and The book written by survivors of the Hellish House in Cleveland Ohio. The I believe there were three women who lived in in a house on a busy city street under horrific circumstances for years I knew that you'd be a complete EST hairless. I'm not proud of it. I'm really not proud of it, but there's something I'm really fascinated by what is that keeps people. And what in this case of dear child you think you're walking into a happy ending the woman has escaped and what unfolds is almost as nightmarish as what she survived. All right. So there are echoes of room here. Of course when I I read the description of the book I thought. Wow, this is room. Again, but it's really not it. It really takes a turn that is completely different from room. This story is told from three different points of view the point of view of the woman who escaped the point of view of the little girl who's following her. And the point of view of a man named Matijas who is the father of a woman named Lena. Back, who is a student in Munich who disappeared thirteen years earlier? So you see you see the story from several different pairs of is which like tell us a little bit about the author because she included three page. In the book which is kind of unusual. Yes. I, loved that I don't know if this is a A. A strange publishing phenomenon, but I always read the author's note or the acknowledgments before I read the book even if it's at the back and in her case, Romi house been used to work in television and she talks a little bit about that in her letter at the end and she also talks a lot about rejection. How many times she wrote. Something that wasn't published and that's I. Just think as you know, we're all can frustrated writers at heart and I just loved that I thought it was very honest and there's a real sense of youth and fun and optimism in her letter that I liked art I want to talk a little bit more about thrillers in general and what you like and. You don't like I to believe really strongly in plot and it's interesting because you know you have those kind of very short chapter very fast paced kinds of thrillers like the Michael Crichton's in the James Patterson and then you have the much slower more character driven not necessarily slower in terms of piecing but just sort of more rounded out type of. Thriller and then everything in between the other elements in addition to pacing that I think about our originality and believability believability. Something that is really important to me. What are the other factors that are most important to you? I tend to like thrillers that are rooted in reality like that's probably my main criteria. I'm not a fan of outer space apocalyptic stories. I know the two of them are very different but I would say probably the first thrillers I ever fell in love with were written by Lois. Duncan Oh the best I know what you did last summer you know stories about the stranger in the Mirror yes. Oh so great I can still picture the cover the commerce were so creepy, and then from Lowest Duncan I graduated to Mary Higgins Clark I think I discovered her in high school or college, and I would say those two authors what they have in common nurse. Stories about ordinary people who experience extraordinarily awful things and that's kind of my sweet spot for thrillers. What are your other favorites? I loved gone girl I loved room. I loved the silent patient I'm not a huge thriller reader. So I think what probably drew me to pick up your child was the kidnapping and escape angle but I also grew up in a house where my dad was a member of the mystery guild and basically every day for my entire childhood, it seemed like a different book landed on our front steps. That he would read in one day so. Every day three, hundred, sixty, five, a year. I would say, my dad completed an entire book maybe occasionally, it would take him two days to read a thriller. But in the room where I did my homework, there was an entire wall of bookshelves and they were all thrillers with the exception of a couple of Nancy drew books that my sister and I read. So I just was surrounded by and steeped in thriller dumb and Mystery Books, and sometimes I think it's an area of. Reading where I feel slightly less well rounded than I do in other areas and I sometimes think that's a little bit of a rebellion against my own family. I'm still have to say I'm very emotionally stock in the freeze the mystery gold because that's something like I, had completely forgotten ever existed but once you said it, I could see the typeface. Yes. He the magazine advertisement I remember sort of thinking like we'll the outs a club that like is a little bit scary to join. We'll remember the scholastic book clubs that we used to order books from his kids that it came on newspaper paper and you would you would pick out your books and they would arrive I. Remember my dad sitting in his chair in the living room going through the mystery guild catalogue, which looked very similar and checking off basically everything. And also the book of the Month Club. That was another club that we were loyal members of in Egan household. Another comparison you make in your column this month is to Angie Kim's Miracle Creek, and I wanted to just grass a little bit and talk about that book because that came out last year or the year before and got a lot of attention and I didn't read it. Now it intrigues me it is really really worth picking up. It's about and I read it when it first came out. So I forgive me if I'm getting some of the details. Wrong but it's about a family, an immigrant family who invest in this kind of decompression chamber. I think it's like a almost like a hyperbaric chamber in their yard and people who have all kinds of different ailments. Come and they get locked into this tiny chamber together to heal whatever it is that they're suffering from an at the book with a terrible accident where they're all I. think there are eight or nine people in this tiny chamber and something terrible happens and it leads to a murder trial and it is sort of equal parts, domestic family drama, and courtroom drama or at one of the great things you do with this column. Each month is suggestive questions for discussion whether it's at a formal book club session or in a in a group tax with your friends. Leave us with one of the questions that you had with this book. Dear Child by Romi Houseman. What's the thing that you would most want to talk about with fellow readers the idea of loyalty within a family and how A huge tragedy can. Tear apart the fabric of family what holds them together, and also I touched on this earlier. But the idea of what it would be like to be heart of one of these major tragedies that get gets covered ad nauseam in the news. And how the news coverage would affect. Not. Only the outcome of a case or a tragedy but also the way your family response to it who would not want to be in a book club with Liz. Egan Liz thank you so. I'm good to hear Your Voice Elizabeth Egan is an editor at the vicar view, and she also writes our monthly group type of column. Alexander altered joins us now with some news from the publishing world hey Alexandra Hey. Pamela tell us the latest. So everything is still preceding pretty well, considering the state of the nation sales are still good as we've discussed and print sales in particular are pretty robust and the industry you know after briefly hitting pause at the start of the pandemic Brookdale slowed down. A little bit for the first few weeks as people didn't know what the landscape would look like they've certainly picked up now and even seeing people starting new publishing ventures most notably this week molly stern announced that she starting a new publishing company she was publisher at Crown is Penguin Random House imprint probably best known for publishing one of the most successful memoirs in. Recent memory, which is Michelle Obama's becoming. She was handpicked to be Michelle Obama's editor and that was the best selling book of two, thousand eighteen. It was surprising to people when she left the company just a few weeks after that book came out in a restructuring they merged crown random house, those publishing divisions and molly left and people have kind of been waiting to. See what she would do next is a veteran. She's had twenty five years in the industry and is known for her both commercial sensibility and her interest in finding new literally voices and breaking people out her new company is interesting. It's called Xango and it was announced this week and it's a different model than I've seen before, I've seen publishers sort of try this. One imprint or another, but essentially she is envisioning. That will align publishing projects with particular either celebrities or prominent public figures or brands or companies who will be publishing partners have some kind of financial stake in it and will really promote that book with who their audience is. It's an interesting endeavor. It's not exactly the model publishers have used in the past were really they've relied on booksellers and media and reviews to kind of develop an audience for book but that's become more and more difficult lately particularly as sales have shifted rapidly online, it's just become very hard to break undiscovered writers or debut authors. The bet here is. That these platforms these prominent individuals and they wouldn't provide any names yet but they said they'll be announcing them will help a book finding audience. That's kind of unusual right to announce a new endeavor and not start with a few things under their belt and kind of go out with with some early success stories or concrete ideas. I. It is I mean often if you're starting a new imprint even or a new publishing company, you might have a couple of authors already signed on that. You can mention to show what your ethos is, what your taste and brand is. They didn't. Provide those they said they would be coming soon I think you know one clue may be is that Molly Stern also helped Sarah Jessica Parker started imprint at Crown under the hogarth line which was called S P and she told me I spoke to her about this new company and she said she learned a lot from that experience into how this could be done. But I think the other thing that's quite unusual about it is the notion that these individuals and brands and companies platforms will have a stake financial stake in the books that they're publishing in some cases they'll publish. Them under their own imprints but through Xango and then end will have its own wine as well and I guess what makes us all possible is that molly stern found some very deep pocketed investors with longstanding credibility in the media, and that is through this organization called sister, which was founded last year by Elizabeth Murdoch Stacey, Snider and Jane Featherstone. So these are women who have experienced in more in in sort of TV and film but they told me that their sensibilities are aligned with molly stearns. We should point out that Elizabeth, Murdoch Murdoch and in the sense of those Murdoch's. Daughter of Rupert Murdoch exactly and she and Molly Stern. Had Breakfast earlier this year and realize that they had this same goals in finding interesting new writers, voices, artists, and finding ways to break them out. That hasn't been tried before I think another thing they're going to try to do that could be different and I'm very curious to see of this works is their distribution model molly stearns said, she would use traditional methods, which would be probably something like Ingram, which is one of the biggest distributors. That's how you get your books to stores or some publisher sign up with a larger publisher Penguin. Random House, which distributes books for dozens of smaller publishers, but she's also looking at new distribution models like direct to consumer. So if she is aligned with these large companies and brands, and again, we don't know who they are. I think that will tell us a lot once they start naming them. You might see a new model of selling directly to consumers which publishers always been very wary of trying because you don't want alienate obviously Amazon certainly, barnes and noble even your independent booksellers because those are the retailers that have supported books and built up. Over decades, and so it's very tricky but I think if you're an independent publisher, you have the flexibility to try that, and if you have the backing of a of another large company or somebody with a huge platform could potentially work syllabi interesting to see how how all that shakes out. o'malley's stern was such a huge figure in the publishing world very well connected somebody's big successes from Andy We're to Sarah, Jessica, Parker God. What else did she did she do gone girl gone girl? Yes. Ready Player one and then some award winning nonfiction like victimized by Matthew Desmond. Obviously. Michelle. Obama Michelle Obama, and then some interesting works in translation the vegetarian by. King which also won awards so yeah across the gamut from big blockbuster stuff to more experimental literary fiction or works in translation ever since she left crown. I. Think People have just been wondering what she going to do next what she gonNA do next so it'll be really interesting to see how this pans out I agree and it'll be interesting to see how all her longstanding relationships in the industry come to play out. will she get some of those authors to come over to her new company in an experiment with this new model? It's little risky but she does have those relationships so we'll see who who she'll be publishing I. All right. There's. A foot in the publishing world tell us. Yes. In addition to Polish company, we've seen some in prince closing this week McMillan announced that it's closing one of their imprints which is called somewhat confusingly imprint and it was started in twenty fourteen and as a result, I think six positions are going to be eliminated. That's according to Publishers Lynch, which reported on this but I Think you saw real distress among the authors that are published by this imprint whenever this happens people who have their books setup who are planning to publish their have published there it's very disruptive and creates a lot of uncertainty for their careers because you have launched yourself through this place. So that was a setback for Macmillan and of course, they've had others they had layoffs. And they've had a big shakeup at the top as John Sergeant left as CEO was replaced by Don Weisberg. In more sort of uplifting news, there have been a number of interesting book deals this week and and significant ones. It seems like publishers are still willing to spend six, even seven figures on on new books. So one of the deals that caught my eye because she's a very well known public figure in politics and it's not a political book. It's Stacey Abrams who was known for her Romance Novels. She actually sold a Supreme Court thriller to Double Day. So that'll be interesting in Norton bought a new book from Richard. Powers, which I'm very much looking forward to he of course, when the Pulitzer for his most recent book, the over story. So curious see what he does. Next one other deal which sounded intriguing and to publishers weekly sold for a rumored two million dollars to doubleday is a debut by a copywriter and this was one of the deals that occurred at Frankfurt, and that's one of the fairs that often produces some of the biggest book deals typically and I was curious if the pandemic would kind of Denver on apparel hasn't. So, this book is a debut novel by Bunny Garments and it's called lessons in chemistry and two novel set in the early nineteen sixties, and it's about a woman who wants to be a scientist, but she encounters sexism and ends up being the host of a TV cooking show instead. So it sounds unusual and the fact that they has made a significant investment in it suggests that there was probably a bidding war and also that will probably be hearing a lot about it in the months to come. Perhaps, we'll talk about it again on this podcast. Alexandra, thanks so much for being here. Thanks for having me. Joining us now to talk about what we're reading my colleagues, Kohl's and Lauren Christianson hey guys. Hi Pamela Greg let's start with you. What are you reading right now I'm reading a novel called Pig Earth by John Birger Birger is best known as a British art critic. He wrote a book called ways of seeing that is still used in college art history classes I, read it myself in college. I'm sure some of our listeners did he was also a novelist he won the Booker Prize for a novel called Gee in Nineteen Seventy two and this book pig earth is the start of a trilogy that he wrote the trilogy collectively called into their labours and it's about. Kind of the the decline of peasant life it set in a small village in the French Alps. In Contemporary Times, the late seventies and it feels like a time removed from time a place removed from time because it's these hasn't rhythms. Thousands and thousands of years it opens with the slaughter of cow moves onto the birth of a cow and he's written an introduction to the book that says very explicitly that he's writing it as kind of a counter narrative to capitalism that peasant life is this kind of counter narrative to a capitalist society peasants have a peasant economy. It's all about just survival and the book is written in little fragments and anecdotes and vignettes and homes. It's very much a collage of peasant life more than any kind of straight narrative. In that way it reminds me a little bit of like Michael Indochina's early novels coming through slaughter or the collected works of Billy. The kid it's got this very impressionistic feel but it's impressions of village life in the French Alps and it's it's kind of riveting that way very physical, very violent lovely lovely writing although I have to say incredibly silly dialogue. Not his strength as a novelist characters saying things, Lake. Jesus. Marie Joseph the devil has seized by the collar. Just. Very silly. But then you know he goes on to lovely lovely passages of description even of incredible violence, you get this sense of how hard scrabble life is. And there's this funny adroit consciousness working. It's way underneath the tells whole stories in just a sentence or two. There's one character who dies from a boulder rolling down the hill and crushing a corner of the House and killing the wife in her bed leaving the husband untouched on his side of the bed and you get that story in paragraph another story, there's a suicide of a man who in his youth he made a lot of jokes. Then he became thoughtful and killed himself in his house with his initials carved above the door. You never even learn this man's name you only learn his initials. He's painting this whole picture of generations of peasants living in the Alps ISG earth by John Birger learn. What are you reading when you first said pig earth I think I allow a never read this I've no idea how we're going to transition from what you're. The Dean sound really resident. I'm reading that's my first Octavia Butler book. It's called wild seed and it's an tetralogy it's called seed to harvest I'm really not a sci-fi percent or fantasy i. know those genres are have never really appealed to me, but I was at a bookstore and the owner was so insistent that I read Octavia Butler, and so I picked this up I gave it a try and you know it was written I think nineteen eighty forty years ago. The themes are so timeless it's about a man in a woman names are Doro and Anyanwu and they've both been alive for centuries. He has the special ability to assume the body of whomever he kills and he's a very violent man and he has this ambition to start a new society, a new seed of humanity and he wants to breed children who like him will never die and he finds this woman onion woo who has also been alive for a very long time. Her power is to take whatever shape she chooses and she doesn't have to murder to do this and also to heal others the two of them form this kind of unlikely marriage. She's very resentful of his powers and the themes are really. Shape shifting between genders races, he can become a woman she can become a man in and how their bodily manifestations really complicate and enrich the power dynamics between the two of them and also their sexual relationship and they were both tribal people originally. But as they encounter white man, it begins in the sixteen hundreds. The next chapter is in the eighteen hundreds than a little bit after slavery ad I. Mean It's going through the history really of America and the slave class, the working class and its relationship with the with the dominant class and they're able to. Shape shift between black and white, and the way their actual personalities change concurrently with their outward appearances is such a strength of Octavia Butler. In the end to me, you know there is a lot of magic and there's a lot of fantasy elements. They don't seem at all gratuitous. You know not a hair out of place everything feels like it's a really purposeful suspension of disbelief to eliminate some really crucial aspect of humanity that is incredibly relevant to be reading right now I know everyone starts with parable of the sower I'll read that eventually but great the. I will say is not what your sounds like. This one is very biblical or almost you know it's a very epic quality. Diene in its tone, but the themes seem related to convert I think. So there are so many books in this tetralogy. So I will finish this one and then I'll have to repairable this hour because that's what talks antioxidant, Pamela, what are you reading? I just read two books that I probably on the surface they're going to sound very different, but there are actually some really interesting common thread. So the one I read I was real life, which is a novel by Brennan Taylor it's a debut novel. I think it's a largely autobiographical novel. The second book is the elephant in the room one fat man's quest to get smaller in a growing America by Tommy Tomlinson both of the author's. Southern, they are both from I don't know strictly speaking what level of poverty, but certainly not people who are well off by any stretch of the imagination and there is an empathy and an emotional truth to both of these books about very different ways of feeling really isolated and left out apart and different and misunderstood. So I'll talk about real life I and Lauren I know that you read this novel. So I'm eager to hear what you thought but realized is the story of a young Black Gay Grad. Student, a Science Grad student. Wallace and it takes place over the course of and and it's really the story of a relationship on its surface. But I think for me what rang most true and important just the portrait of a person in his twenty s, and there's an immediate seat and an intensity to the way in which Brennan Taylor writes about this person's emotional experience that for me really brought me back I'm a little bit of tears. PATINA has been away for my twenty at this in my life. Same Time I remember reading a book that made me feel what I felt during a decade a certain time ago. In. This way was John. Greens y novel the fault in our stars which made me remember like ever. So briefly on a gut level like Oh yeah that's what it was like when you were a teenager and you like incredible crushing, you fell in love for the first time. This book made me remember what it felt like to be in your twenty s where you not only are suffering through the incredible. Emotional throws of relationships but also trying to figure out who you are and where you fit into in the world and Brennan Taylor the author was also Science Grad Student. So one has to wonder if this was the calling that he came to after realising that perhaps the latest in science was not what he wants gets a really promising first novel. He's a really good writer very observant his character descriptions are great. Lauren what did you think I agree he he's really interestingly selective in his descriptive nece he goes. Yes. Definitely. The hit the characters of his peers at in in his department and university as well as I think he's studying. Like nematodes or something I mean the specificity but she describes his science experiments is just it's full of humor and the beginning of the novel you get this really passing descriptions not even a full sentence that his father has been dead for like a month or a couple months or something bad, and then it kind of brushed past and this the whole. The whole stage of the novel is really this kind of deeply specific relationship as you said, and school dynamics and the insecurities of being you know a black man in a white space and the grief is kind of the background context to all of that and I think that. He he portrays that really really beautifully. I'm so glad you brought up the death of the father because that was one of my favorite things to in that it's another example of Alien Nation because when he tells people that his father has died, their assumption is immediately that he is grieving the loss of this close relationship and the truth is is that we're not all close to our parents. We don't all have unalloyed grief when they die we may have grief for what we didn't have when our fathers or parents or someone close to us is something that we wish we had had, and that's a different kind of grief and. That's something that I think is really rarely written about it's a kind of forbidden emotion not to feel an alloyed love for a family member or grief when they die because it makes it uncomfortable for other people to give you solace because it's like they don't they don't know how to react to it. I thought that was really brave an interesting thing about. The other book that I read the Elephant in the room one fat mans class to get smaller integrating America by Tommy Tomlinson Book that goes into the category of books that I read because Dwight's review. Made Me WanNa read. Is a journalist who writes mostly about sports and music, and he was a columnist for a newspaper in North Carolina. All three of which are things I would never ever read. So I would have no familiarity with Tommy Tomlinson and I think if Dwight had not reviewed the spoke I would not have read it but he Gave it a favorable review and subsequently learns that Tommy Tomlinson is one of those writers writers that everyone loves. He's a beloved journalist. He was a Nieman fellow with a bunch of people in our generation of journalists and at the beginning of this book, he weighs four hundred and sixty pounds and key grew up in a family where food was love food was generosity food was strength food was parenting food was was taking care of someone and I just want to reach one short passage. My belly in a weird way is a monument to the incredible feat that he and Mama pulled off they survived the cotton fields and scrape together a better life through hard work and good sense and kindness. They raised a boy who never had to worry about having enough to eat that has caused its own problems, but I would take these problems every. Day over the ones they had to face just one generation ago. My people wrote to town a wagon and Houston outhouse. Now, I have a closet full of clothes and a frequent fire account. It is only fair in some ways that I hold this weight around my mom and dad carried the heavy end of the lute long before I got here and. I'm really glad I read this book in the beginning your description really reminded me of heavy the Casey, Lemon yes. Casey. Lehman book but it sounds like it's kind of the opposite approach to other relationship between a family relationship and and wait you know in in heavy I think there was a really antagonistic relationship with his mother fueling his feeding disorder. Yeah what's really interesting is that an and this is again why you just can't help loving Tommy Tomlinson reading this book he doesn't blame his parents at all. In fact, he really credits them and he feels for them and he talks about you know the ways in which they handled his weight he was always heavy and the and the ways in which. They tried to get him to lose weight even early on even as they were in certain ways inadvertently undermining his health and he is extraordinarily empathetic and loves them unabashedly. It's a really kind of remarkable thing. You just seems like an incredibly warm and generous person. The book has a lot of similarities with any kind of addiction memoir in that there are. Obviously. Common themes between over eating and any other compulsive or addictive behavior. All Right, Greg let's run down titles again. What did you read pig Earth by John Birger I read wild seed by Octavia Butler and I read real life by Brennan Taylor and the elephant in the room one fat man's quest to get smaller and a growing America by Tommy Tomlinson. Remember there's more at NY TIMES DOT com slash books, and you can always write to us at books at NY Times? Dot. com I write back not right away but I do the Book Review Podcast is produced by greet Pedro Rossato from head stepper media with a assist for my colleague John. Williams. Thanks for listening for the New York Times I'm Pamela Paul.

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"Ed cases that live and breathe sports and food For God's Sakes two and a half weeks of the final four is great home gaining time. You can't not be around your TV. So so why not include the patio the hot tub. You've got all the efficiencies of the home and it just makes you know Game Day food and organization a lot better so we have a little phrase we tend to use around superbowl time and Super Bowl. Parties called upper crust upper-crust tailgating for God's Sakes Punch showed side your whip. We your weight class. You know Sunday's the time to do what we call excess in moderation all right We Love Tapa style style. A lot of finger foods. Such they're famous for that. Own at an raiders. Parking lot I was talking about this with way back And just so so many different types of foods and getting a lot but bring it home and all that excess bliss do it up do it up. Well marinates me do a lot of finger foods. But you're far more capable and you've got a lot more time to do it while you're at home so that access in moderation phrases certainly applicable to super bowl. We're speaking with the Grid Iron Chef doc here I you know I always figure because some people say hey look to just keep it simple. Can you just grow up a dog or a patty. And I'm like look if if that's what you WanNa do that's is great but to me variety is the spice of it. If you want to go out there and make Sushi you know whatever whatever you do I I like the fact that I got multiple choices. It's the best. Hey if you can get Sushi grade fish for your super bowl Sunday or in the parking lot. I don't care where you are you you know whatever rose your boat. I'm telling you that's great but I kinda about ten years ago in serving a lot of people on Game Day. We had Philadelphia up in Buffalo and and I did six courses but we just started to think about rather than big courses just continual tapa style food. We did coca-cola a little CIA marinated chicken followed by stone big pizza followed by Scampi followed by a small part of Jambalaya. Just enter Mitten Mytton courses and then you can get into all kinds of different foods. And I'm a big saints fan so I do a lot of Cajun Creole and you do occasion. I got a great tailgate. Tailgate shrimp recipe. We're GONNA apostrophe A. L. E. so it's a beer cage shrimp we're GONNA be publishing on the Game Day. Media feeds here for Super Bowl. Oh and it was featured in draft magazine. But that's a seven minute course with a good cold beer do those intermittently and I think you're you're crowd will be far more pleased. Do you have speechless do this for fun. You talked about the final four. I'm going to give you your final four. Hopefully this is not our last day on the planet. The let's say it is what what are your four four things that they could put on a plate in front of you right now for food would items. Yeah right the first of my favorite meat item is something I'd featured in USA. Today is called BLACKTOP. Flank marinated in Sherry race. Oy and a lot of fresh garlic. That's my pro team. You know you gotta be some Red Meat in there you know. It's meats like football's not like defense defense. Where don't have to have it but if you don't have enough of it you kill your party so How that I've got to have some smoked onion dips? So there's gotta be some sort of depth yep with some grilled Pitas and Nachos not just the standardized nachos I gotta definitely have some seafood Of some sort. Whatever rose your boat there but finish off with something sweet and I'll give you your listeners? WanNa really great simple desert finish off off with some good craft beer and a good sweet dessert. How about a chocolate peanut butter one time later deep fry with a little a bit of powdered sugar? You get that savory that melted chocolate in a one time gift to the Chris so that that's kind of the perfect fair for me. It's a little bit of everything. Diversity versity and still that excess in moderation principle. So what are you. What are you eating? Well I did I would probably say a I'm going to need A sausage pizza from favorite place. I'm going to need Probably a Spider role Sushi I would probably have a bacon double cheeseburger and then I I would have This isn't the official term but a big ass shake. That's what I was nice. Yeah and listen you can do that for two and a half half weeks we say final four but really I don't know but anyway but I I am. I engineer a new sandwich every year. For twelve o'clock tip off off traditionally before the sixty eight you know when back when I was forty eight teams and Thursday afternoon was appointment. TV and you had to have your food food ready and It certainly just like the masters or any great sporting event on TV. So I home getting so applicable. And you don't have to spend that the three day planning of Layering your your dishes and planning your travel and there's a lot of logistical planning. That goes into tailgating whether it's the three-day tailgate at a NASCAR. Race or just something on a four five hour six hour tailgate at an. NFL are just like the raiders. But at home you've got the benefit of the pantry. The full fridge the Fraser and not have to move your fat Butt and you just Park yourself from twelve o'clock until midnight and and home getting necessary. 'cause you gotta eat but or you're dying or you're on the couch yes well what would you say. And I'm pretty confident I I but when it comes to being a chef I'm I'm just not that good and I'll make something and I'll just kind of thing in the back of the my my my mind. I well if I made it. It's not that good. What advice advice would you give outside of? Just grow up and be a man to to the to the maybe the chef. That doesn't have the confidence that what he or she is doing is going to be any good. And you gotTa let the quote unquote experts handle it. Well I a lot of that A lot of moving across that threshold is something about you know I coach and we talk about being comfortable with being uncomfortable and I. I'll tell you I introduced a lot of people to marry nations and SUV lead. You know sue. VDI We do. I got guys at Suva in the parking lot. Talk about fresh seafood. There's an application for fresh seafood. But I will just say. Try some new mayor nations. 'cause because a Lotta Game Day or whether it's in the parking lot or at home is about prep but you want flavor and marinating and brining using liquid That steak recipe. I gave you a twenty four hour marinade a fresh garlic soy and Sherry which is an not just wine it's Sherry California Sheri's perfect perfect for it but prepatory allows you to do extend punch outside your weight class on game. Day marinate some food. If uh if you're not confident in smoking traditional smoking smoke something smoke something simple like a lawyer. Tenderloin do some reading getting all the resources are on the Internet. It's their punch outside your weight class and don't be self conscious about it. You know. We Love Game Day food. Generally everybody's nobody's got a couple of Debbie's in them so you tend to lower the bar in your game day food the more varied if at so just get comfortable with being uncomfortable. I think that would do. You will just got about a minute left. And we know that you nail so many So many food choices. What's one that? Oh you is there one that you never really could do. And you're like I'm not even GonNa try and make that 'cause I always make a hash out of it. Well I tried to make Sushi. She wants you really need. A Course I tell you. I came back from a Sushi restaurant and I had smoked. Salmon Smoked Salmon Sushi. That just blew my mind as part of the boat I had ordered and I paid twenty bucks and he came back. I tried my best Rick I forget it. You know the let the Sushi expert. Serve me that I'm not just not good at it. That's for sure I'd like to be. You can only be Jack of so many trades so aw that's weird because that's supposed to be just raw fish it is but there there's a there the if you watch the great Sushi artists from Japan there isn't there is an art to it that that some watch some of those great chefs from Japan. You really need years of proper for preparation and education to do it. So there is the Gridiron chef. Doc might hear him a little bit more on sports pilot but he's the Co host of the tailgate radio and the also tailgate Home Gay Nation as well Jeff. Thanks for your time appreciate how good bowl and We'll catch up with you soon. My friend hey listen on behalf half of my co host. The Grill Sergeant John Large as we say keep the drinks called the grill. 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I think it's going to be a high scoring affair. I think the niners are going to run the ball down the chiefs throats. I think Patrick Mahomes is going to have house some joy to Kelsey and hill and others. But I just think the niners are all around better team. They have a better defense. They have a better run game they they have a better basically everything. Outside of the passing game is that enough for Kansas City. Will People Choke memorably talked about X.. Factors people stint stepping up. Will Your Star Step Up. Well someone missile Phil Go. We don't know this is why we're GonNa Watch. I think it's going to be a good game. I don't think it's going to be a blow out but I do think the niners win by touchdown. So I'm going to say San Francisco thirty seven Kansas City thirty once again. Niners thirty seven and chiefs thirty. That's my prediction addiction. Let's talk about it on Monday at nine. Am Pacific they don't have brain damage. You're listening to the heartland. 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Go Navy and go niners. You're listening to wrestling observer. Live with Bryan Alvarez and Mike Semper Vivey on the sports byline I'm broadcasting network. The show Brian Alvarez here wrestling observer live Mike Super VP. Jim Valley's here in studio today. This person here says. Is it a coincidence that just a week before the launch of the XFL. Jorge Mario Michelle Wilson. Were let go by Vincent. Well my friend I think that has zero to do with the XFL. But yes W E announced a big management shakeup yesterday to members of the leadership no longer with the the company Co Presidents. George Borrows and Michelle Wilson Gone. Effective immediately will no longer serve on the company's board of directors directors. They had been with the company over ten years. They were there helping. Get me the Fox deal there. Two point three billion dollar television deal over five years. They're gone. I would like to thank George Michelle for their ten plus years of service contribution to the organization. Vince McMahon said. I am grateful foil for all those accomplished during their tenure but the board and I decided a change was necessary as we have different views on on how best to achieve our strategic priorities. Moving forward in other words. They had an idea and he had an idea. Guess who won Vince. So they're out of here by the way yesterday on twitter. This story was on twitter and people were talking about it and everything like that. And there's all these crazy. WWe fans the guys like everything is all right. We just fire to tenure executives. But don't worry about it. Everything is all right. This person insists it's tell me. Of course they have a plan. Well well here in. WBZ's own release. It is noted. Frank a Riddick is the company's interim cfo they have begun a search for a CFO etta chief revenue officer. You know it's too bad they didn't have it a couple of weeks ago because you know being. WWe President would have been a hell of a price to win the royal rumble. Sure but the point of this is no. They didn't have a plan now. Then have people take these these roles they just fired. Bartelson Jason Wilson. And now they've got to figure out who is going to replace them the stock at this moment forty eight dollars and thirty. I four cents. I know this has nothing to do with the XFL but as coincidence would have it next. Thursday is the fourth quarter of twenty nineteen and full year earnings report for me. It's her. It's her call so I mean obviously they're going to have a lot of money coming in because the television deals kicked in at the end of October over so they've got giant. TV money coming in and they've got Saudi money coming in so I wouldn't be surprised if they had like a very profitable a quarter but the fact of the matter is about six months ago these investors started to figure out that even though things look too good with Fox and Nisa and that they finally after all this time started looking at all of the little things that Debbie markers of of overall popularity celerity and every single one of those markers was down and if I recall correctly I predicted that the domestic S.. Tick me network number was going to be below one million for the first time since twenty fifteen. I was ridiculed for this well. We'll get back to me this coming Thursday. I bet you anything that network number in the US is below one million subscribers. I'll bet you anything. It's the lowest since two thousand fifteen and we can't say why I don't know why people quit but I do know one thing which is really gonNa make people mad. I know that. WWe Put exte- On the USA Network for Free One of besides the pay per views. I mean you know Dr w network live wrestling a wrestling shows and besides the pay per views. What else are people getting the network for? Will they were getting the network for an xt not and if you put an xt for free for two hours on the USA network. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they lost subscribers because of that because has now people can get it for free on USA. And that's one of the reasons that the network number is going to end up being so low. So yes in some ways you you can blame a e W for Michelle Wilson and borrows here being fired. Not all the reason. But I'll bet that's part of moving annex t off the network. It's still on the network but you know got seven hundred thousand people watching it every single week on USA. How many people do you think we're watching it on the US that were? Let me tell you somebody who was way lower than seven hundred thousand so this is the story and anything else about it. We don't know what the issues news world with. Vince Borrows Wilson. We may never know. I'm sure they they've got their nondisclosure agreement I'm sure they've got their their settlement or whatever. It's called their their their severance package. We may never know what happened here but we are going to know a lot next Thursday when we actually do this earnings call. So we'll see what happens. Mike any thoughts on this well. It's the stock still seems somewhat uh over inflated hit forty eight dollars it just it always blew my mind. That thing went from God at one point nine when really we started to heat up. I guess it was around thirteen fourteen than it exploded two to nearly going to one hundred dollars in. It's amazing when the the network numbers as you say. Ah Down when how shows are down when merchants shows are canceled when ratings. Are you know ridiculously down It's amazing that in but it industry best based on speculation and and based on flashy numbers and influence and can be swayed you know the the market love. WWe In his loved it for quite some time and at some point that was going to burst in. I guess it has happened now. I think maybe you're we're reaching a little bit with the a w thing is relates to to borrow some Molson because I can't even that being the straw that broke the camel's back when when he came to the network and he came to borrow some Wilson just because the blame of that goes on everybody. When it comes to that network? I actually gave them some credit that they would have a plan. Stand by this call with an idea of what they were going to do. And maybe they will but what they're going to do for twenty twenty as far as tears as far as programming programming all that sorta stuff I doubt it. They could but I gave him credit as they were going to have some sort of plan. They don't seem to have any plan at all they have. I'm not replaced annex. T was something that that makes the network a draw. They haven't even haven't even tried so you know. Obviously there a a heavy time for them right now the XFL distraction but just on the wrestling. And you're going into your bill to Wrestlemanias so you do have a lot of that stuff going on and I'm sure they're going to try to sell that as hard as they possibly can. How great things all right? Now Hey Brian Alvarez folks said they were going to have our best ever over run towards Wrestlemainia in quite some time have faith. That's what they're going to say. You know everybody's remain calm. Everything is okay but obviously everything's not okay okay after the rumble I was thinking your prediction. Brian may turn out to be true. And then after yesterday I'm like. Yeah your predictions dead in the water water. It's not there's still there's still hope Jimmy kidding me knew. This could not have advocated worse time wrestlemainia season Super Bowl this weekend and then once the Super Super Bowl is over here in Seattle we're seeing The rollout of the your Seattle. XFL Dragons and. I'm sure it's going to be more in earnest. After the Super Bowl there are a lot of things happening right now. There were questions before and now with this huge shakeup. It's it's like a tempest in its e potties eighties. It's bad and I have a theory. It's GonNa take a little time so maybe after the break but talking about the network everything right now streaming and everybody who is a content provider now as a streaming service and they're bringing all of their properties back under their umbrellas for their streaming services. And we're seeing shows that are now cross platform. Marvel is going to have shows on Disney lice. That crossover with the movie. So now. In order to follow the Marvel Universe you need to have Disney plans to follow all of it and that's going to be the strategy and you know wrestling or not. Everyone is familiar with that. So I'm sure there are. There are a lot the people on Wall Street saying putting something off of your streaming service and onto a network goes against the complete trend right now and that's going to be bad and why they do that. A. W. and. Whose decision was that Vince? And who took the blame on to blame for a lot of things back in a moment. It's over live life black and at twenty eight. I'd struggled with opioid addiction for twelve years. I didn't said things that the sober me never would have done one day. I realized I was not invincible. Was Not exempt. And that's when a friend told me about the early Rehab Place. When they gave the tools I needed to get sober and all it took was the one phone? 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They were cancelling. And they were quitting and Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Then we the earnings call and they had a huge surge of pay per view of Network subscriptions descriptions the day after the real room so one one bad main event is not causing people to give up on the product it is a long slow decline and people just get out of the habit and they just they stop. It's a trickle. It is not an event that almost never happens that there's an invent that causes people. Just quit something. They trickle trickle trickle trickle trickle. Because everybody has a different thing when they're like dude I'm not watching and they're done now and x t is different. That isn't event because there are a lot of people that are done with the main roster but they still watch annex t I I hear from them all the time out in the real world and I don't think it's like a massive cancellation but if the network was at one point one million million US subscribers and they took an x t off the network and they put it on the USA network which now seven hundred thousand some people watching Annex T. Yeah I can see it going from one point one two nine hundred ninety easily. I don't think it went from one point. One to five hundred thousand and they're not gonna Zap many people because they take that at work but I guarantee there was a percentage of people that had the network that had the network for an extreme and they took it off the network but like does anybody watching extend the network if it's on USA network. I don't i. How many people do that? You're telling me there are art. Twenty five thousand people that decided okay. It's on the USA network. Now I can save might nine ninety nine a month and just watching every Wednesday. I think it's a very real possibility posssibility but no I do not think they lost tons of people because I mean the the estimate that we had when when there was at Saudi show was like thirty five thousand thousand people quit because of the Saudi show and chances are twenty thousand of them came back for the royal rumble or for whatever the next big pay per view was they got. They got furious serious. They quit and then they came back. That's thirty five thousand people if that's what they lost. Saudi Arabia show in the middle of that whole controversy. Then no I don't think there was a sizeable number that left. Because of Helena sell I the only thing I want to throw in ear is. Don't don't think that that Saudi he showed didn't have some effects and also there were people that just very quietly over every there's nothing quiet anymore who social media. There's always GonNa be somebody screaming about something but I think with that Saudi show and and a st not being on there and he could be a mix of things where people just what. I'm just not going to give the money and and I think there are there obviously because you see. Aws crowd every single week. There are people that are actively actively against wwe and and giving them any money for anything at any time at any point ever and have really kind of ice them outside of maybe one thing here or there that they're definitely not we're GONNA pay for this kind of where their hat right now with a lot of people and they have they're not dealing with people who are apathetic towards them in wrestling right now with some fans and some potential customers that they have. They're dealing with a group that is you know fearlessly anti what they're doing an anti title they stand for and I'm not saying that number's growing. I'm not saying it's massive. But it is I think significant enough Brian Logan Pauly's yes a youtube superstar Loganville. I saw today that he had another boxing match. And he's been doing this for awhile. A matter of fact one of these matches that he had one point. Three million pay per view buys on pay per view this claim yeah medium the dying medium that nobody uses that everybody hates Blah Blah Blah. One point nine million. We got one point three million. I had to check to make sure it's not nineteen ninety eight when I saw that number. How was he able to do that? The matches are terrible and and it's not because he's on youtube or tick tock or twitter or any other social media. BUZZWORD has nothing to do with the medium itself he is successful because because he has an emotional connection with his audience and they care and they follow him and they pay their money. He's able to convert these social show media metrics to money which. WWe Cannot do. No one cares. There is no emotional investment in wwe and then it hit me today. You want to know why the fifty year old plus people watch annexed. WWe while they do so well in those numbers that is the last generation that wwe made an emotional connection with twenty years no emotional connection and unless there. There was something with the impeachment and the death of Kobe Bryant. There's no real emotional connection with edge coming back twenty years. Nobody nobody cares and you want to know why cares. Because I don't know who these people are. Who is Roman reigns? What does he stand for? I know he's the big dog is supposed to remind me of the undertaker because to me it sounds like the t shirts fat guys where at barbecues. I don't know who he is. There is no emotional connection. A non league that compare it to eight. W When Adam page debuted everyone was very excited and when I saw his match with Chris Jericho and after that you like home. Maybe he's not quite there yet. And we have had episodic television that has told the story and made people invested in Adam Adam page and told us who Adam page is what he wants his frustrations obsessed with the title. He's all these things about him when. WWe Me when Roman reigns comes out for a promo. It's always exposition. It's not about character development. It's last week. King Corbin jumped dog food on me. Well let me tell you King Corbin. We're now going to have an extra match tonight. And we're GONNA fight for a stipulation it's never character development. It's always about the next match and these next matches. Everybody knows if they're going to stretch these things out. You'RE GONNA have a first match. Then there's going to be some kind of small's which will lead to some second match Wjr with some stipulation and then the third match and Rondo another competitor. It's like it's not real storytelling. It's like adding water to soap to make it go farther. Well the big issue to me is. Nobody feels real on W. E. television. And that's the end of the story. I mean it's so emotional connection it so over-produced that every single person that you see on WCTC produced. There's no no it is back store. I it's over produced because Baxter you don't know these people people because overproduced like everybody has to read from a script the fast and furious movies. They're overproduced people still talking to different kind of overproduce. I'm talking about you have to read a script. You have to be a character you have to be one dimensional like a name a name of character and W who is not one dimensional original name one and not only that well hold on so the double whammy for Debbie. Okay the W. W. Wrestlers. Because they're allowed so much freedom but I watched the show I at least feel that they're all real people and maybe the heels thinker despicable. Maybe I like the baby faces. Whatever but I feel like they're all real people it's storytelling and some scripting? They're allowed freedom to be who they are are look at Jon. Moxley Jon Moxley. NWEA is dean. Ambrose was a one dimensional character. He was a wacky guy. That was it that was the character. He's a wacky guy. There was zero dimension to him he had to read Wacky promos. He had to say wacky things. None of this was who he was in St John Oxley. I was on the boat with the guy for five days. That's exactly how he is in real life when it went in the boat. This this dude was Jon Moxley. He wasn't and I'm GonNa talking in the ring. I'm talking on the boat. He was not Tina. Umbro's that's who that guy is. They're allowed to be who they are in w either overproduce the double whammy is on social media. They're real life. Life personalities are so unlikable in almost every case maybe the exceptions like Kofi Kingston. A and biggie. They never get involved in this stuff but it on TV. They're not real and on social media where they're supposed to be real they're completely unlikable ecoboost so you have this double whammy here of how can you get behind anybody. It's impossible. It's literally impossible to get behind. Find almost anyone. I think there's something to be said for episodic television and W eight power. They've seen some growth may be small but they've seen it a w do you know each week. Why tune in? Oh we're going to get ten lashes this week or this is going to happen with. WWe television maybe he'll know match attached. But is this just going to be a match is going to be an angle. They don't give you those breadcrumbs to keep you coming back anymore. There I think one something that is topping with e w and w powers the importance of episodic television and they did that in the attitude era things lead to another thing naturally truly and something was going to happen next week and they told you about it and you look forward to it so that day came and you oh yeah Roz on. This is going to happen. Stone Cold Steve Austin now I go Roz on and I have no idea what's going to happen. Because they don't do episodic television anymore. How about a bunch of long story? Short like what was wrong with pro wrestling in. WWE's insistence on making it something other than what it is and they have been successful in some ways with it but the further they have gotten away from that the more they have lost the plot more they have tried to do everything and re imagine everything how people stand what they say how they are as Vincent attached. Though you know everybody's puppet man dancing prevents and unfortunately this is the result. 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Here's some music to get you pooped. Yeah I hear your budget laughing at you. Oh wait that's just those kids laughing at me casualty. Insurance Company and affiliates price and coverage match limited by State Law You're listening to wrestling observer. Live with Bryan Alvarez and Mike V on the sports byline broadcasting network. The Braille is year wrestling observer. Live Mike Zimmer. Even Jim Valley. Here's one a gym can tackle. I know he's a fan. I in here. Who says perfect example of overproduce? This weekend me Lacey Evans. Look at her promo everything she said was real about her life but felt so forced with unnecessary melodrama. So if you saw that segment on smackdown Jim I bet you a thousand dollars that if you had an equivalent amount of time on Saturdays Wrestling Observer live with Lacey Evans. You would get a five thousand housing times better interview out of her. You couldn't be right. Because she just be Lacey Evans telling her Real Story Lacey Evans hasn't done this for very long to beef for one. She may not have the instincts develop yet it does. It does take time we right but what I'm saying is like that's a real story. Yeah so she has done this forever for for her whole life right all you have to ask her about it and let her just tell you her story as opposed to being the evil Sassy southern bell whatever that will scripted. They scripted her life for her to say I think it's more about storytelling and more about giving character development instead of just exposition. And that's that's what they did do with her. They need to do more of that. Let me give another example. You know who succeeded. Because they became real the new day and the new. Who'd at one point or the number one merchandise sellers in all of WWe? I'LL TAG team. Can you believe that. Not Single performance but a lowly tag. Eddie met Vince has been trying to get rid of tag team wrestling for years and they overcame that they started out they were were they an evil church choir. I don't know what they were but they overcame. That actually started as a baby face church choir. Whatever they work hated but either way they overcame that and now they're real people see that there's the real relationship and that's why they are still over to this Dan they've lasted much longer than so many other acts in? WWe because they're real real and you understand who they are and what they stand for. There's a problem also with top baby faces. There are three holes. They put these people in you. You get the Stone Cold Steve Austin Treatment Becky Lynch the man which they screw up every time you get the rock treatment which it looks like Keith lease getting that and maybe drew McIntyre tire or your inspirational John Cena. And that's it. That's what you get on annex t when I saw keithly and he was like on now he's giant rock and there's been a progression of how they're producing and developing him and giving him trademarks limitless catchphrase as whatever that means it. Sounds more like a catchphrase for commercial for unlimited appetizers at Applebee's or something. I don't mind limitless. What does that mean for him that he can reach anything so it just? I don't know he's not going to be the rock. The Rock is the greatest of all time. God God likes the rock more than any of us and as great as Keith Lee is nobody can be the rock so find what works for him. Because maybe it'll work but I don't know but quit. It's like the same. Three pegs always resist speaking of the network. Why haven't they fixed it? Well that listen. There's no one event but if people really didn't like the whole Saudi deal and they he really hated Helen his cell and these pay per views have been letting them down and on top of all of that the network is having one issue after another. Yes that could also lead to cancellations nations. I have blown my stack on the show countless times because of this network having issues and the answer is and I don't have a good. I don't have a good explanation. The Nation for what happened here but they left Bam tech which was their longtime from from the day that the WWe networks started. They'd been on Vam tech they left Bam tech and they literally had to rebuild the WB network from scratch. And it still glitch. E Glitch Ritchie Glitzy Galore. Now they're working on it and they've been working on it for a long time. The answer that I don't have to this problem is was. Is this an abrupt departure from Bam Tech Book. The heck happened where they had to depart with an w network built from scratch. That was totally like like. Why wasn't that thing built and tested? And then he left Pam Tech. I don't have an answer to this but yeah I can see that being an issue for a very small percentage of people I don't I don't think if you love the w network and you love watching shows on there and you'll love the pay per views. I don't see the fact that you have a hard time. Fast forwarding. Being a reason to tons of people are going to quit but I think that that it could be an aspect of it. I think a lot of this stuff. It is just A. It's a compilation of things. It's a collection of things over time that has done this damage now. Wall Street is catching up to it. And you know I guess. The Front Office is catching up to their own trip. UPS convinces doing Vince. Does right now but you know when it comes to the network same thing and skin all of those things I think have played a part in why people have just said to hell with it. I I don't think it's ever won any one thing. It's never usually ever one thing unless at thing is so incredible and you know the Saudi deal. There are a lot of people who probably left and he didn't come back. I think it's probably more than you might be giving it some credit for a but you know. I think it's just a collection of things now. One thing has sunk. WWe In their creative creative or overtime. It's been many things as we keep pointing out here literally every single day and as jim new appointed out here. Today it's just it's it's this whole collection of things and getting away from what they should be and again. This is vincent puppet show and until Vince. Make some changes until again until Vince. Make some changes really. We're spinning our wheels here and things are GonNa go there going. Hey runs you remember in nineteen ninety-seven when WCW. Did you see W overtook. WWe And the paper views were down. Then do you remember the attitude that wwe took convinced took how so fan fan fan-friendly they tried to be. Bring your signs in do this. We love the fans and they really paid a lot of lip service and tried to have a very fan friendly face face on themselves. I would start there and knock off the stuff about toxic fans or we wanna pick all the things apart or it's all adult fans translate to all the time it's always because of the fans you know they're used to fame or the wrestlers pretended to the fan's faces that it was real if you wanna be frustrated by fan interaction that's completely understandable but you some K- fame and fake it publicly go home and explain well part of it is they have the heels they the fans and then the baby faces come defend the fans so do that yes we know well in theory we know that what Seth Rollins is saying is just what Vince thinks is and what he thinks but I mean they claim that like he's just being a bad guy we actually love you fans is just as despicable seth rollins character that hates you who comes and rescues excuses. I think we have fewer friends than aged us will. You don't have a lot of France. Yeah ratings for Wednesday yes. Mike never good ratings for Wednesday so so dynamite eight hundred twenty thousand viewers and annexed on USA seven hundred and twelve thousand viewers so they were about one hundred a and ten thousand viewers apart which is not a huge. It's not a huge number but the demos once again the eighteen to forty nine demo for for a w they were third. I believe which I think is the best they've ever done and annex t was thirty-seven and that's all the eighteen to forty nine and to be fair because people get so angry raw was one two and three in the demos. And what's funny is people want me to talk about the raw demos because they can say oh see roster and great even though these numbers are down Ross doing great well to be perfectly honest robbing one two three in the demos I can paint that as a negative because there was zero royal rumble bump on that show okay if if there were zero royal rumble bump but there was like a bunch of stuff with Kobe Bryant or the impeachment or whatever there was like dominating in the eighteen to forty nine then you can say well hey you know that's okay. They didn't ever royal rumble bump but everybody was watching something else. Guess what. Everybody wasn't watching something else while one two and three the Kobe Bryant Trivia game or whatever did a million viewers when raw got affected by actual real life football ballgames fourteen. Fifteen million was one million none of this. None of this had an effect on W. E. W. E. had no post royal rumble bump because people didn't care that's slightly distressing but yes. They were one two and three. So it's not like the end of the world but a w the number three annex t thirty seven not really much else to say about it. It was very very average day in the ratings. This is probably largely where they're going to stay and steel the up a little bit. They'll be down a little bit. Awb up a little bit. They'll be down a little bit but this is where they're at they were down one hundred thousand viewers combined overall but that could also have been people watching other stuff in in DVR ing because both shows are doing over one million viewers if you add in the plus seven so wrestling on Wednesday is not doing terribly and wwe on Monday as far as like the prime demo. They're not doing terribly either. So there's far all our bigger problems than than these and you know what they're all easily fixable. It's GONNA take time. It's GonNa take time sure. Well that's look it's again. Let me bring up those words per wrestling again. You know like rebuilding your territory. And they don't have burned to the ground to rebuild it back up again because they have everything at their disposal when it comes to the roster that they have and it's just sometimes going back to simple tenants Randy Nej now granted. There stars no dispute what you said earlier but edge coming back and having no emotion whatsoever that is is incorrect backs me up the ratings. I mean some young people in the crowd. You know really who backs me. Oh you mean the people need to be there anyway it Jim what are you like. Don't go sports radio like hot take battle on me. It just started. Maybe maybe on Sunday. We just had the crowd on Monday Monday. React to people react to on whether edge people it's sparked something we don't know how it's GonNa work out specifically for them yet. But I do know the reaction that he got. I do know the reaction. Let me play man in the middle. I'll play man in the middle. Mike you are right Jim you are right okay. The fans there are there are very emotionally invested in edge. But this did not draw one single new viewer to raw because of edges return so the the lapsed fans don't seem to care that edge came back but absolutely positively the fans that were there on Monday. That was the most emotion that I've seen for a wwe wrestling angle. Since I can't Roman reigns coming back from leukemia because it was not an angle but as far as like an angle or a moment you probably have to go back to Dana Bryant winning the title in two thousand fourteen edges great. But here's the thing now if they paid so much money. WWe To keep him out of AWS hands and he is not having any extra numbers no extra fans. What does that mean? Maybe the next time Awa wants to bring somebody else aboard. There's wwe go. I mean we'll take a pass on this. They're gonNA pay big money. We'll say dude there. Look I mean the Matt Riddle Riddell one is is just the perfect example like they were concerned that he was going to go to new Japan and so they were like okay. Well we'll give them a lot of money and do nothing with them. That was their plan. So you know I can tell you this okay. Last week. The revival asked for their release again. They were not giving their release. They desperately want out and I. I'm sure there's like a number with it w we won't pay for the revival of the revival went to me and said listen. We'll stay but we want one million dollars. Each they would be turned down but the amount of money that they're going to offer the revival to stay when you when you take into account like what they're actually going to deal with the revival. It's ridiculous everybody. There is making can ridiculous money. And they're all in the exact same position they were before this. This is just thrown out money. 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Identify here down. A dollar twenty four. Their stock wasn't anyway and biser homes homes here down three dollars and forty six cents thirteen dollars and forty cents. There is nothing on this chart. I take that back. Credit Except Acceptance Acceptance Corp.. Was Down Thirty eight dollars a share but that was only eight percent so wwe the big winner. Here and stock market declines. I bought some. I've W W E stock today as a matter of fact they had a group on for it so it's a good deal dude. Well I'M NOT GONNA get stock market advice. I did my. There's always. There's always next Thursday I it's IT'S GONNA be bad. Angus research gives advice and the analysts recommendation here on Yahoo who finance sell stock. Po Q I International Medicine Inc was up seventy one percent today. You should have bought that Jim. And it's Medical Rona virus. Yes maybe they found a cure for dave meltzer's cough one life healthcare fifty seven percent up up. Wow all right Jim. 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Org and the man is about to say yeah let everybody listen the USA Radio Network worked presents the greatest radio programs of all time coming the CBS radio workshop dedicated to man's immagination the theater of the mind this is classic Radio Theatre want to get away from middle the FBI and peace and war McGee the unexpected the unexpected unexpected expected. Now here's your host. Why cops evening friend? An episode of suspense from late in their run John Stevenson starring in Arctic Rescue This was originally broadcast sixty four years ago today January thirty first nineteen eighteen fifty six. Thanks for tuning on this. Tgi Friday thirty first day of January thirty first day of twenty twenty and we have three hundred thirty four days remaining until we get to twenty twenty one or you're still riding twenty nine thousand nine hundred. Yeah you'd be surprised how many times I still say. Twenty nineteen instead of twenty twenty confederate General General Robert e Lee became general in chief on this date in eighteen sixty five in the American civil war. Three am began marketing. Scotch tape on this date in nineteen thirty. The Green Hornet Radio Show debuted on this date in one thousand nine hundred eighty six and in Nineteen forty-five Army Private Eddie Slavic executed the first American soldiers since the civil civil war to be executed for version. Desertion back in nineteen forty-five president. Truman announced a program to develop the hydrogen bomb in one thousand nine hundred and in nineteen fifty seven three students on a junior high school playground in Paco. Karma California among eight people killed following the mid air collision collision between the Douglas DC seven airliner and the Northrop F eighty nine Scorpion fighter jet above the San Fernando Valley section of Los Angeles the first successful launch of American satellite into orbit on this Stadium Nineteen fifty-eight Explorer One Cape Canaveral Florida and final checkup for the seventy Jupiter C about to put the explorer into orbit around the Earth the success of the Russian sputnik and the failure of a Medical Van God Project Jack must have been in the minds of all consent is the moment for firing an United States is ready to play in place its first satellite satellite into orbit I of playing we can see that you may be a great sigh ever leave accompanied the explorer as it saw away into space exactly according to plan newsreel audio of explore one launched on on this date in one thousand nine hundred fifty eight James Van Allen discovering the Van Allen Radiation Belt also in one thousand nine hundred feet on the state and Ham the chimp traveled the outer space on the Mercury Redstone two in nineteen sixty one on this date after thirty seven day pause President Johnson ordered resumption of airstrikes in Vietnam in nineteen sixty six on this Monday morning and Vietnam at my direction actor complete and thorough consultation impatient and agreement with the government of South Vietnam United States aircraft have resumed action in north Vietnam two years later the Viet Cong would attack the US embassy in Saigon nineteen sixty eight President Reagan spoke at a memorial service honoring the crew of the space shuttle Challenger who were killed lift up three days earlier. Mike Judy Hell Ron Greg. Kristen your family. Since your country him passing we vigil goodbye and mm-hmm we will never forget you. Sometimes when we reach for the stars we fall short but we must pick ourselves up again. Press on despite the pain in our nation is indeed fortunate that we can still draw on immense reservoirs courage and character and fortitude that we're still blessed with euros like those of the space shuttle Challenger over ten thousand. Were on hand that ceremony on this date in nineteen nineteen eighty eight the first Russian. McDonald's opened in Moscow on this date in one thousand nine hundred ninety in Nineteen ninety-two Howard cosell. cosell retired after his wife died of a heart attack. Two years earlier the sports casters health began the fail. He would die of a cardiac. Embolism three years later. At the age of seventy seven it was on this date in one thousand nine hundred. Five President Clinton authorized arised. Twenty Billion Dollar Loan to Mexico stabilize its economy in the Netherlands in two thousand one a Scottish court convicted Libyan and acquitted another for their parts. The bombing of Pan Am flight one. Oh three which crashed into Lockerbie SPA Scotland in nineteen eighty eight in two thousand and four mystery science theater. Three thousand listen in Detroit on the sci-fi Channel and in two thousand five the child molestation trial of Michael Jackson began California and the last few weeks a large large amount of ugly militias. Information has been released into the media about me. Apparently this information was leaked through transcripts in a grand jury proceeding where neither my lawyers commissioner I ever appeared. The information is disgusting and false Michael Jackson appealing to the public for a fair trial. Samuel Alito. Oh junior assuming assuming office as the one hundred. 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Rescue night's presentation of Radio's outstanding outstanding theatre of thrills. Tonight we bring you transcribe story of a group of brave men who risked their lives in a desperate effort to save their fellow men. We call it Arctic rescue now starting. Mr John Stevenson eras tonight. Suspense play our rescue Christmas night miles and miles of endless and broken vice an ice floe drifting somewhere in the vicinity of the seventy third parallel north of the Arctic Circle. Nothing but I. It is really nothing Catholic. Through the winter night you'll see two tiny duct blemishes. The figures of two men one twisted in an unconscious are skipping. Jonathan Blake the other figure Gerald L.. Stealing I it makes us only civilized men in a wilderness of ice waiting helplessly. Sorry picture it. It's a different picture you've seen if you've been part of the excited crowd standing at the battery of a New York waterfront on June morning joining the year. Eighteen fifty the moment of departure. I let's mistake. The high tide me. God and his great mercy protect you young men from the perils which are wait you after Ted for heart and we shall succeed the others have failed and ending the mystery Erebus and terror back to other Dean in time for Christmas feast. We prepare Christmas celebration. Your men will never look at captain England next week. I actually pray for you Mr Steuerle. Thank you Miss Croft. I stand many watch. Watch out at sea thinking of last night football answering you all of us. I mean what I made his. Thank you tell your niece lady. Thank is how grateful the officers and crew while the farewell ball you held in their last night. I am grateful one Captain Blake. Please bring them all home. Safely income now lady function no need for that. Jessica is a sturdy ship. The men are in good health and spirits. We'll be back with MS Ross title. Change must be another way then. Goodbye and good luck. Captivated the lake the banisters. Kill it. Godspeed you we shall see Aberdeen Christmas Week. It's yes it okay anyway. That all hands it. They're moving stations business. It's a plus the oldest two costal. I aw what a Reyat underway veil rayle Mrs Stewart. Villier is the site of New York. It's lasted for some type of a good long long time. I'm a Jessica. Moves slowly to the outer harbour. I watched a tiny delicate white don. The crowd at the water damage side Lady. Franklin waving I watched until the morning fog erased inside of the New York waterfront. Aside from the ship's log I've decided to keep a running account will be transferred to a water-tight Johnson onto the current fit any seven disaster. The first three weeks of navigation north were merely a matter of settling down to ships routine on June thaddeus after officers. We did punk farewell on the Greenland coast. Time had come for the captain to read a letter of instructions given to him by lady. Franklin Captain Blake. I'm sure you will do all the Dinnie men. Ken In discovering the fate of my husband's and John Thank Lynn and two ships the Erebus and terror ETA. My only fear is that you might sacrifice your lives and the unknown regions of the Arctic. Therefore let let me state that above all else. The preservation of the lives of you and your companions is more important to me than the purpose of your journey. God in his great mercy preserve you all from harm amidst the perils which await an restore you to US safely and didn't in health as well as your sincere detached friend Jane Franklin. These are the only written instructions actions. I have gentlemen now. Then this is the map. Please Gentlemen Admiralty Admiralty Map of the Arctic regions that we ought to pitching map. It's almost completely. I missed a day. Thousands of miles of chartered wilderness. And somewhere are in that frozen Tundra Sir. Thank Lynn and his men vanished and I'll search will begin tomorrow when we dropped anchor. GO WE PICK UP OUR ICE pilot. Mr Mr Patrick Henson's on additional supplies and then make the Arctic Circle Acted Cinco. Sounds like the edge of the world is fighting to you. Right right. Mr Halliday I were you. I would respect Mr Stewart's fear of what lies before US captain. I was just thinking if Franklin was looking for the northwest. This passage probably make an approach through here. Lancaster sound must've passed bonds. Bay and according to our information there ESKIMOS IF BONDS Bay. They might have seen shipped into Lancaster sound and if they did then we'll have something to go by. I hope Mr Hansen understands esquivel dialects. They can tell us but I don't see how we can cover all this territory and get back by Christmas captain. We have no choice. Mr Stewart if you get caught beyond the Arctic circle after the summer months we may never get back never I in the winter. The Caesar covered with great ice floes. Once ship is frozen in in in those letter to stay there until the summer thaw and you come to mention the hovers. We didn't do an Arctic Winter Holiday. I I suppose not. Franklin the newsmen were probably frozen in for the winter and they were never heard from again sexy that will give you a brief idea. Yeah of reinforcement. No more after Mr Hansen comfortable any questions. I have nothing but questions captain. I wish I had the answers Stewart around Known the next day we dropped anchor in the harbor of air we can take on Cole Additional Winter Clothing Dogs Eskimo drivers I am Mr Hansen. Our ice was nothing more than a few of Beckham Bay Trading Company as we prepared to go ashore alone. Boats suddenly appeared appeared alongside Captain Blake. I ask Patrick Hans Pilots. We would about Cindy voter show for a handsome all the time for that captain but we planned on picking up supplies. Dogs brought them in the boat. What's the rush? Mr Hansen this Gerald Stewart and I I made never been to the Arctic before Mr Stewart. No take my word for it. We better get Dave. I'll be got the summer weather. You Bet all right so we run into a little summarize Jessica's because we paid for it. She looks like good strong ship. You never seen iron ship up here before and steam engine to all the Jessica has. There's an additional iron plates across to Ho as well as edit bracing thought you and forward to the bow is solid iron and razor the shot at the end. Do you think that will do to your ice. Mr Hansen to new see the ice can do to ship. Even I chipped Mr Stewart. You received my letters and you made inquiries about the edifice some here. They couldn't get dogs so they headed for pawns. Bay across Baffin Bay that's right just as we saw. La Yes get those supplies all then prepare. The ship for sea is up. You can talk to coach across the Arctic Circle next and onto in north by northwest costs leaving the last outpost of civilization behind this and cross the right Basham Bay on July fourth. We crossed the Arctic Circle and we had ice freezing deck and in the rigging day later. We saw office floating iceberg. But this time of the year we should not have seen either one from two ponds bay six and a half days perfect con upon landing. We found a small contingent of Eskimos. But nothing else. They seemed hostile and would give us no information. Then as we were preparing to return to the Jessica one of the natives girl rushed from one of the Hudson down to the beach. We'll say Mister Hinson sure kept look hand. She wants us to look at it. And it's a the small blast button from a naval uniform. Tissue traded listen saying delivers. What does he mean by that? You're says she turned to say man's knee. Joseph Gallagher Stewart is that name Munson. 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An episode of Arctic rescue as it was originally broadcast on Tuesday January thirty first nineteen fifty-six in the newspapers of that Tuesday sixty four years ago. These were some of the headlined. The Atomic Energy Commission mission reported yesterday testing of nuclear engine designs for aircraft is now underway at the ABC's Idaho Experimental Plant a semi annual report of the Commission mission covering developments of the last six months of nineteen fifty. Five said the aircraft reactor program was accelerated from Washington Secretary of Agriculture Alter Benson came under fresh fire in Congress yesterday with Congressman Verdict Republican. South Dakota suggesting that Benson and some other cabinet members should wear you're demands for Bentsen's resignation rose last week after publication of a letter signed with his name applauding magazine article which called the American. Farmer are pampered. Tyrant Benson's apologetic statement Friday. That the letter to the editor of Harper's magazine was stamped Boehner and into the uproar on Capitol Hill but there were a Republican from Utah. Senator Bennett told the Senate yesterday. The Secretary Frank. Acknowledgement of the yetter editor showed courage and should persuade. Critics is to withdraw their demands that he resigned. Prime Minister Eden Pledge Britain sports support yesterday. The President Eisenhower Statement of policy that Russia should ease world roll. Tensions by deeds not words even personally assured. Eisenhower Britten stand at the first of a series of White House meetings called to coordinate British and American can policy William Jed winged across the North Atlantic and treacherous winter weather at the controls of a single engine plane but is not forced him to abandon Anthon yesterday and effort to fly nonstop from New York to Cairo. He sat down at an airport near Paris. After thirty four hours eleven minutes in the cockpit of his gleaming the silver and Yellow Star of the Red Sea the forty year old native of South Haven. Kansas was forced by icing crested wings. And six hours of tiring instrument from applying to end his flight in Paris. The explosion late last night rock. The home of the Negro Ministry has been a prominent leader in the eight week old. The Negro boycott of city buses because of the segregated seating arrangements early reports indicated damage to the house was extensive however police would not immediately say if anyone was injured in the home of the Reverend Martin Luther King Chief Spokesman for the demonstrating Negro population of Montgomery Baltimore's two hundred thousand regular bus and trolley writers unseated by strike but the second time in four weeks Mumford. Their way to work yesterday through streets jammed with cars cars. All City and state officials kept pressure on the Transit Company in Union drivers prospects for an early settlement did not appear encouraging from Tallahassee. Asi Florida comes word that a nineteen year old German girl as Governor Leroy Collins to help her find a not rich but wealthy American husband Care Orrin Hatch of Berlin writing. I wish that he is tall and from a good appearance he must be in a certain position. I mean he don't must be rich but wealthy his character shelby likable. That is my greatest wish Karen pinned at three tiny snapshots to the letter which were not clear enough to give a good idea upper qualifications occasions however she did send along. These vital statistics wait fifty one kilograms height. One point seven meters hair. Middle Bond is blue took her letter addressed to the Mayor of Florida. said she could find an American to marry in Berlin but she much preferred floor because she quoting likes. It's nature and I hear Florida is wonderful. No word from the governor's Office on whether he was going to be searching and those are some of the day's top news stories as reported in the newspapers up Tuesday a January thirty first nineteen fifty-six on your Radio Suspense Arctic rescue which Continues News now on Classic Radio Theater after leaving Ponds Bay. Two months passed without incident. Then we ended. Lancaster sound and approached. The sketchley trotted islands along the coast and we counted great mountains of floating ice and we had only a few hours of twilight each day. We crossed the seventy fifth parallel North into Wellington Channel to Bathurst island last of the islands on my match with a change northwest us waste Gail Sleep and heavy fog at forced us to a bath. Crawl a mammoth ice floes. That closed in all around us the ESA even I on the temperature I answer don six degree small time getting the temperature still nothing zero. What do you think of this lead and take maybe the better back out to hear back? I'll take a look back. outwear acting Rutta won't respond fix Ed Lee just getting spoiled a captain. Coptic seems to be closing down on us on all couch. Doc was the lead moved in closer until a man could jump to the ice from either side of the and then the Jessica was through the acts making her own but slowly we lost feet. It finally ship gave up to the ice. If Rose Stop Engines was disturbed. Asha Captain Blake. Looks like we can forget about looking for a young Franklin and his ships be frozen and they're going to have to look out for our own lives you bet You are listening to Arctic rescue. Tonight's presentation in Radio's outstanding theatre of thrills suspense sixty four years ago January thirty First Nineteen Nineteen fifty-six suspense on Classic Radio Theater. The conclusion comes up in just three minutes on this Friday edition right here on your favorite station. How did you sleep last night? I can guarantee you. I slept better than you did. Unless you. 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Russians were cutting food water and coal consumption. Furious gales came and went there were more freezing. Temperatures often his lowest thirty five below. The doctor was a busy man. Daily all hand suffered from frostbite. Gangrene conditions about the Jessica Sokaia. They couldn't get any worse October. November the result of home and holidays and Lady Franklin and this cross sitting alone. The Christmas feast that was to be held in our on Christmas Day the cook outdid himself. We had a feast first of all the Jessica on the left of the salt pork and the beef and with the last of the male and minced beat. The Cook made pies and we had a celebration Christmas Day. Eighteen fifty two men. The captain the word to say I I dropped below to offer you. Greetings on this holiday and to wish you much happier Christmas. Yeah in this mosquito eighteen fifty three one year later. We're still frozen in.

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TSS 007: Environmental Scientist Adam Morris

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TSS 007: Environmental Scientist Adam Morris

"Hey, guys and girls do you like science? Well, I do in on this episode of the spin off show. I've got my good friend. Mr Adam Morris up from Canada joined in the show the resident jock nerd science expert. He's much more than that. He's actually working for the Canadian government doing environmental science and marine toxicology for a fucking living. If those two things are synonymous, I don't fucking know. But he's on our show or he's on my show talking about polar bears in you at people how climate change is affecting the Arctic. How contaminants are affecting the populations up in the Arctic the carnivores and the people up in the Arctic we dive into climate change stuff in general. And if it's real we jump into the flow bit of flatter stuff. We jump into the debates that are held between scientists and politicians. We nerd out a little bit. At the end, we even get into a near death story of Adam Morris's trials and tribulations up in the Arctic. So I think this is a really interesting scienc- nerdy show. I love science hopefully, you do to. Let's check out this episode. Off just show. Well, Adam recording now. So I think we should just start doing this. I'm in they'll get I've been wanting to have you on for a long time now and by a long time. I mean since I started recording this spin off shows that would probably be for five weeks and not that long. But I been men very good. Very good. I have been looking to get back on the jogging near show for us. Well, so this worked out nicely. Nice. Something a little different. It is a little different. Now. The listeners already heard an intro, but I'm just going to restate. The fact that annum you've been on our show a few times. Now, you're on episode one fifty five that was your debut on the jockey nerd podcast. We did science superheroes. Go out on. Then we did Jack nerd to fifteen signs of Auckland. And then we did jockey Noor to thirty two what the fuck happened masters of the universe with you. And Matt del Hauer. I was I was a lot of fun. We've all we've also had you Hon jock talk. But in your own words, who are you? I know you're scientists your doctor you'll appear d how how would you describe yourself? Yeah. That's enough. So yeah, I'm a wildlife toxicologist. I work I work primarily with big predators and other animals in the Arctic of Canada, and we look at how the talks does animals worked. So really how contaminants are getting into the Arctic other building up through the animals whether or not they're getting to concentration in those animals. It's like a concern, particularly because most of what we study are still traditional food sources for the people that hunt them regularly, so their their lifestyles a lot different than ours. So we try to try to frame a lot of our work in ways that benefits their communities and their lifestyles as well. So it's not just, you know, us measuring things for the sake of measuring them, we're looking for sex in the animals that might translate to humans and most recently, I'm also looking at more holistic kind of science in Ola bears and seals which of their main food source were looking at how. The whole mixture of stuff that we find in the environment in terms of the contaminants. But also in terms of say changes in ice, conditions changes. In temperatures sent changes in the fruit. Sources have all these things are affecting the animal's health. And then kind of tagged along with that. We're also looking at how specific climate change facts. Like again temperatures and things like that will affect the contaminant trends by themselves. So we're looking at indict affects content climate effects. And again, trying to get a holistic picture of what is happening to some of the animals in the Arctic, particularly the lower latitude ones right now, I'm focused around the Hudson Bay, which is a big most people know what it is. It's a massive Oshii and kind of a system, but it's unique in the Arctic because it's white low in latitude when you to the bottom of the Hudson Bay area some of that is actually in Ontario. Most people don't think about polar bears being in Ontario. But we have quite a other really there's polar bears Ontario. The southern Hudson Bay the southern Hudson Bay bear population is in northern Ontario. Only shit technically they overlap into the vote. So the government also takes up, and I could part in in managing them. But they also part of Dariel. So yeah, so we have you know, a lot of a lot of land in Canada. And we cover a lot of spaces in. We have pretty much the entire Arctic region. So pose worth. So there's a lot of work. Can travel a lot of a lot of work has to be done in Canada. Otherwise, it doesn't get done Russia. Great myself. Sorry. The we have most of the the Arctic area in North America. Russia has the other biggest chunk of it, obviously, but June. They don't have also have a lot of money to do environmental research, and that's not really their priority. So a lot of the work. We do here is translated across the globe. And is quite Canada made that a priority. Again, I think it's just our our approach to the way that we look at global agreements and things like that. We always take a big role, and because the Arctic is is mostly hours. Right. We we really it's it's part of the the sovereignty arguments as well. Like, obviously by doing a lot of work in the north. We also show our presence there. So back in the forties and fifties. There was a lot of push from the from the Americans in the Lasca from the Russians in the north because the Cold War, and everything and because a and other stress factors. So we really knew I wanted to establish ourselves as the Arctic nationless doing something up there. And that's carried forward till today. But you do this for a living. Yeah. So now, yes. How do you? How does one do this for a living? Like who who'd employs you? So right now. Yeah, I work for the government of Canada a post doctoral fellow which is a way of saying that I'm kind of a late stage. Intern is the last way to do it. So I'm qualified to be a research. Scientists and qualified to do the science that I do, but I don't have my own lab. I don't have my own space yet to work out of. So I still work with mentors who have that lab space who have a little bit more expertise than me and more experience working in the field. So they're still teaching me things, but it's usually in a different manner. So now, they're teaching me how to get funding teaching me how to manage the lab how to manage students because you have to train PHD students master students and people they're gonna be the next generation of scientists. So a lot of my training now is not necessarily just about learning. You know, how these contaminants behave in bears it's about how to manage lab. And how to how to be more effective scientists too. So. We also a lot of the lot of the work is done through the government in Canada. And that's why we are able to do a lot of the things we do because we prioritize it funding for a lot of Alaskan research, for example. Now, there is some money from from the US government. But a lot of it comes from different sources. So the academics universities there, get the my themselves. And then they team with us often. And we do research over in Alaska and the same thing can happens in Russia because sometimes we can get money to do research over there to compare with ours. Even though it's not our country. So again, there's a lot of. I don't know. I guess a lot of disproportionate work that goes on. But it's okay because we're really trying to again cover off the much as we can. And and and you know, do much work with the end not just for interest. But again for the people live up there too. And you mentioned start the show that I've been trying to get on. And you were told me off the air that you'd switch jobs. So you working for a new employer? You'll have a new assignment or what's it looking like? Yeah. So right now, again, I'm a front line kind of research. Again, we get like polar bear fat Liber muscles ampoules. We process them in the lab a measure a lot of contaminants in the myla measure also measured things they tell me about what that polar bears eating. I can I can track back. The age again, the diet of the animal, and then relate that the contaminant concentrations on a day-to-day basis. So we're gonna write papers I participated what we call the primary literature. That's like again, you're rewriting scientific journal articles that are going out there with the first reports data. So we find a new contaminant and a polar bear we read about it. And it becomes a journal article. The new job is more of a will be more of an overseeing kind of -sition where I'm still heavily involved in a lot of the research in the Arctic. But thought he really management job is still being environmental science job. But it's would mean that I'm working with all different researchers studying everything from fish in plankton. All the way up to pull the bears across the entire Canadian Arctic in helping them coordinate their work with communities they work in. And then making sure that data is put into the databases where we can use it for bigger kind of approaches the problems, so knowing for example, like the one contaminant is building up in one small food chain around the Hudson vein blueberries is interesting, but we also want to know what the bigger picture of all the polar bears in candidate. Is this new job kinda give me an opportunity to explore those bigger picture questions? But I will no longer be in the frontline scientists again like processing that liver sampler that fat sample in the lab. So yeah, it's a really cool opportunity. And it just so happens that again certain positions of opened up at the right time. It's more of a job that I thought it myself getting ten years down the road to be honest to you. But yeah, I know it's an amazing opportunity in it. It allows me to keep working with all the people that I I want to work with and effecting the communities in the animals in the things that matter most me, so I'm really hopeful that it's it works out. It's not locked in place yet so knock on wood. But we'll see regardless there's lots of research to be done. But some yeah, I could be switching over in the summertime. That's dope. Dude, polar bears are fucking awesome. They are. Yeah. They're one of those animals that when people this many many talk before when people see drew Buller bear doesn't matter their to their ten they're sixteen. They're forty other ninety most people's faces light up there. One of those animals. We call them charismatic mega-fauna. There's animals that captures the public attention. So all those Pepsi commercials are willing coke. It was all coke Tokyo. And they and again they spread that false rumor that. The whole the bears and penguins co exist, which allowed people still actually think, and it's they don't go exist. Ono they're separated by the entire world. Yeah. Penguins. Only exists in the southern hemisphere on. Clue. Here's the thing zoos. I mean, they probably say that on the fucking pictures. But I only see penguins zoos, I just assumed anywhere cold that thing so. So in the Arctic, we do have several species of birds that are black and white patterned. The thick Bill murs are one of the species in there. One of the things that actually study right now, I'm looking at climate change in the murders, and whether or not that affects the contaminant transfer time, but they're awesome little birds because they have this black and white pattern and they fly super well. But they also dive in swim a penguin. Not quite as if I think is not the same stage, but they dive and swim super well. So be confused as a penguin. Yeah. Again, they're just stark black and white. There's no other patterning on them. At all wasn't a myrrh thick billed Moore M U M U R. Oh, okay. I see it. That's not a pumpkin penguin. No. Yeah. Yeah. Black black and white little fish eating birds. So they fill a similar niche, but there's no in the southern hemisphere in the Arctic where the penguins live. There are leopard seals in the water. The them. But there aren't a lot of land predators. So we are really it's just the penguins evolved in the southern hemisphere. An embarrassed never made it to the to that continent before it separated. So, you know, there's no go. List, but the, but the Antarctic payments do make it all the way up to the southern tip of South America and the southern tip of Africa. So there are little populations there where it certain times of the year you can find penguins in like a fucking strange to the long way to go. So fucking polar bears has so you've seen these things up close and personal. I've seen Tupelo bears in like in the field in real life. Aren't they fucking? They'll just wanna kill aren't they suit, hyper, not, hyper aggressive. I've heard that. They're just monsters. They wanna eat. They see anything prey is that right there. I mean, the thing is the biggest thing out there. And they're very curious because the Arctic is devoid of food for that. Like their food source is the seals that they have to basically like crunch the ice and pull them out of there. And everytime they missed one it cost them a lot of energy. Right. And if their if their mother that has cubs every time, you miss a seal that's one step closer to dying before you can actually raise your young to age. So it makes more sense. There's a lot of costs in terms of what the polar bears life is. So if there's a food source available they'll tend to investigate it. You know, the maintenance seen that video or the dudes in a cage earn a like a glass cage and the polar comes up and just trying to fuck in rip that thing apart to get him. I'm not sure that I've seen that one. But I've seen several things like that. But they. I don't I don't think that they're inherently again looking for people, obviously, that's our food source. We we don't just much like sharks that are working procedures bears. Looking for things that are rich and fat. And although were bit chubby these days, we are not we don't we don't have a three inch thick layer of lover on the healthy fat. They're looking for while if you've ever seen there's videos online, you can find the where polar bear stripping. It'll grab a Pete once once it rips the the flesh of it. It'll have a piece of blubber on a seal and strips the entire blubber layer off and leaves the carcass, really. It's not worth their energy digest the meat and the other parts of the seal because the fat just absorbed right into their system, more or less. So again, they can get ill. There's no issue with polar bears. Usually if there if if they're fat and healthy. You're much less likely to get attacked her investigated by them. There's been a increase of instances in Canada. Where again, we have two thirds of the world's police are population. So the people over here deal with way more bears than anywhere else in the world. And a couple of communities where they're used to dealing with bears. People have been killed in recent years, just buy them investigating which is unusual. Well, again, usually the annual are pretty well aware where the the bears are they often have guns, especially if the red size town. So it's unusual for them to get surprise attacked by an animal like this. But there's a lot of factors that are play right now part of it again. As part of my frustration with studying blueberries is that everybody always wants to blame everything on climate change. When you see a sick era skinny bear. Or whatever in the news every always says well climate change, killing these animals, those National Geographic story. I remember that we're that fucking skinny ass. Bear was walking around run on on like a floating piece of ice it if if you follow that three at all it was actually it was on land. It was on. It was on the on the shores it was near Hudson Bay actually knows near Baffin bay, which is off the shore of Baffin island in the art in the higher Arctic. So where that bear was was filmed is actually one of the places that's not been hugely affected by climate change yet, we know the ice conditions haven't changed massively there yet. And when they followed up on that story, they found that the any Whitney area were like that happens all the time like something happened to that bear and when polar bears can't feed so the rarely dependent on the ice in season. The when the when they're still land fast ice ice frozen shoreline, and they can get out there. Easily and hunt seals their other fattest than healthiest once the ice starts to break up if they haven't fed heavily during that period, and they're not really beefed up opt in there can be a period from July until November or over when the. Yes, they start to get that way. So what if you look at that video again, even the pictures of that bear? And that's the first thing that I noticed side is that is dragging its one back leg. So it looks like it broke his leg at some point probably before. In the bears more and more especially in those areas. They've been scaling cliffs looking food. So we out of there isn't a shortage of food for them. But that bear might have had some bad luck. And it slid down a cliff and smashes leg, and then when it was supposed to be hunting seals it. Couldn't get them fast enough so thins out over that period when supposed to be fattening. So then it gets that kind of catastrophic level in that video once the is actually leaves is then they're they're depending on their fast bowlers, right? So anyway, long story short when they actually went into the villages nearby and ask them about that video. They were like another beer, probably sick or broke its leg. Like, it looks like in that video. So it couldn't hunt properly, and and it didn't help that a lot of that video was shot where there was no ice, which everyone just automatically assume on the ice must have just fucking melting climate change all my God, save the polar air where again is the reality is like most polar bears live arrange where during some part of the summer. There's no ice in those no around there. Jeez. I didn't even I didn't even realize that fully until I not only listen to you with other people talking about that. It's calm your hold hold your horses a little bit on this. Well, it's over act. I really like the idea that you know, we can use the bowler. Berra's a charismatic species the draw attention to climate change, but it has to be for science not for somebody's got reaction. And again, the main thing with that video was the National Geographic people posted it with their opinion. In saying look at the effects of climate change. I believe or something in the in the in the idol. When that's not case, maybe that contributed, but really the fact is that bear look sick to begin with it looked like it had a broken leg. So that was probably what caused that. We have enough issues with bears. That we can actually quantify with science the. The you know, we shouldn't be focusing on these passion comes things again. If you listen to the anyway, they're seeing more bears around their communities and they're seeing more bears in certain areas. So you. Yeah. Our scientific survey is in things might be someone accurate, but you also have to listen to the people that are actually there twelve months year. All the time, we only we only have a window that we see. So yeah, it's a very difficult thing to manage in and deal with. But after that after that video came out, I spent a lot of time going on Twitter in like trying to defuse people from being this is climate change is no maybe, but we don't know. So don't don't front as what are you seeing as far as climate change? When your some of your studies is so I guess the first off the loaded question is because this is a big now become a political thing. And least in the US's will is is climate change real is global warming. Is that a real thing? What are you seeing? I don't think there's any question anymore. If you look at the. The people study these things hand, we're like ninety nine percents. That's what I saw most not most the. Other than the small fraction. Agree that climate the at least global warming is a thing. Right. And again, it's it's the climate change factor. That is we've drifted off of what is normal oscillating cycle. So again, there is obviously very Asian client, right sure and not just in the large climate measures. But there's also in in the small scale like in Chicago auto recently, you've seen swings of what twenty five thirty degrees celsius in the day. So depends what you're looking at. You know, if we're looking at temperatures air temperatures water temperatures after looking at ice extent for looking at whatever the metric is. It's be careful how you're looking at it in how you're analyzing it, obviously. So when it comes to climate change in these kinds of things these are usually based on the ice extent measurements and things like that from from. Scientists that have been studying these things for for decades. And you can't just find an average or like a mean or median or whatever in a specific time and say, okay, that's what the temperature was or with the ice extent was here. Right. These guys used complex mathematical algorithms average things that were certain periods of time. So you can actually create create, but you can reveal trends in the data. Regardless if you look at the natural temperature cycles, for example, that have happened since the ice ages of the national ice cycles. We're well off those those historical batteries now and based on again, ice cores and things like that. You can actually see. Some of this Zoric data. So now, we're projecting into the future. Which is where a lot of people get get hitching about the whole thing. Right. But you're you work in in in business. Like, if you're if you're Deconda looting, economic trends or you're looking at long-term economic trends, you don't look at the day to day variation either. Again, you look at trends over the course of decades, you try to Detroit to take a wider scope on things. Yeah. Exactly fluctuation. Day-to-day if you follow that the fluctuation day today's just is too too much of a swing, and you can lead to wild overreactions exactly which I think is what we see a lot in climate science for the most part. Whereas when again, these much better mathematical, scientists than I apply these algorithms that they developed over a very long period of time to kind of show the underlying trend's to this. Variation this consistent increases in temperature consistent decreases in CIs. Overall, throw the Arctic. But you're looking at localized areas, you can see very different trans like, it's it's crazy. But it's that day to day the variation that makes it complicated to analyze. But it's the day-to-day variation is actually also the biggest concern for me, for example, because say one bad year with the ice where the ice breaks up two months earlier than it. Normally would and freezes up a month later that that could cost a lot of polar bears lives. So the population might drop in that year. Are you? Are you noticing these things or these things popping up in your search? These are still again longer term trend kind of that are being investigated. But they some of my colleagues not not myself so much, but there's guys it specifically look at the biological relationships of bears c-i-s. So again looking at there. Fat thickness through health in the reproductive success as a big one in relation to that kind of thing. And you're seeing changes, but I'm not sure that there's necessarily anything concrete yet reproductive success indicates that the bears healthy and can produce Ryan getting enough food because conditions allow for them to find food much easier. Exactly. Right. So a lot of our colleagues actually over in Denmark. Do a lot of really interesting work relating contaminant concentrations to penile bone density in boulevards. For example, in their own nice. Yeah. They actually have a bone down there because it's so cold that they can't they can't get it going. When you when you first said that I just went over my head. Oh, that's just another bone in the body, and they went, oh, wait a minute the penis bone. Yes. But for. They're they're finding like decreases in the peanuts bone density with increasing concentrations of certain contaminants. They're finding the people in Denmark car are finding this about polar bears. Yeah. They will. They do. They have a population over there. The Danish responsible for the Greenland population for the most part it. Okay. That makes sense. All right. Didn't I assure specified that? So they are the holders of a lot of the other data in the Arctic because they do actually put some money into the Greenland those fucking polar bears got over the Greenland. That's awesome. Just hanging out on that big giant island. Definitely. But but yeah, but get into the term kind of climate change. We're we're hypothesizing now. But it's. Based on their body condition. Like in the longer the is out and before the freeze up occurs. There's there's a long period of time the bears get skinnier. They look less healthy and the females tend to lose more young and things like that. So. But now again, there's been these long term data sets that are starting to come together. And now they're being put together with temperature data. So in the next in the next five years, I think we'll see a big explosion of a lot of these these data that people been working on for for decades that are now at the point where statistically show these things to be true. But for obvious reasons, people are very hesitant scientifically to attribute things climate change until we have strong data. The because then we end up in the same situation as everything else has been happening. Like, I mentioned with National Geographic photo where again, you're following your gut and you're looking at. You know, starving polar bear in your emotional about it. But what you really wanna do is is show scientifically science in general is is supposed to be devoid of emotion. It's supposed to be the finding of facts, right? This is true. So again, I like to think that I'm driven by passion to for the animals themselves in four and to do what I can to preserve the system as whole. But I never walk into a study or experiment, necessarily with predisposes ideas. What's going to happen? It's more. It's more important for lab science like if I'm if I'm doing an actual experiment in a laboratory whereas in the field. I might have some idea, you know, if bears in certain areas might be more exposed to certain contaminant. You know what I mean like? There's that are closer to industrialize areas that higher concentrations of mercury. Not a surprise. But you know. You have to you have to be careful what your the way you think about it in the way you present. It is it is a frustrating for you. When you if you see it up in Canada's much, but as a frustrating for you when you see politicians, for example, that clearly don't have a science background, but are taking a anti global warming stance purely based on politics rather than science. It's one of the more frustrating parts of of a lot of my. Internet reading in life right now to be honest again. I I worked a political debate. It's either it is or it, isn't that? Or we don't know yet. And that's exactly right. It's there are clear effects, and they're clear some clear things that that based on the models that we have and based on the data from the experts that we have they're saying again, for example, flooding is increasing in certain parts of the world in that is climate change related. Their ocean levels that are rising in certain parts of the world. And that is climate change related. We can see these things happening yet. Politicians will go on TV and tell you that it's not happening or that. You know, we don't need to worry about it. Because they have another plan to deal with the pollution and whatever else can candidate right now, there's a big debate over our carbon pricing. So there's a tax they're putting onto big industries like oil industries in pretty much any any large scale industry that would. Basically for the. Carbon dioxide that they are calculated to produce they have to pay a certain amount into cap and trade system. So they can they can buy more carbon credits. But it costs money that goes into climate change research and lecture renewable energy research and things like that. So that the more the more you in quotes, kind of mess up the environment. The more you'll pay for people. Like, you study it. Well, yeah. Exactly. And it also is an incentive for them to start in a stop exploring other other aspects of that's the way to hurt. Business is just take drain the money. However, most most businesses are in Canada, especially the oil big oil companies like sun core were quite supportive of climate or sorry a carbon tax because it was creating opportunities for a different market to develop where they were being very climate conscious, reducing their footprint. They could actually sell their credits other people, and you know, whatever. So it was a. It was it was a bit of a. Attest system. But like, you know, it was it was pretty much full force. Now, we have a bunch of other politicians that have come in on -tario, and they just canceled our contribution to without any information. But they said, you know, this is raising gas prices by four cents. This is raising this by two cents. So it's causing people in -tario money. So we're going to back out of it. However, the federal government said will know if you're not gonna do it. We'll put that in place for you now anyway, so it's become this ridiculous thing. But it's back and forth between people don't actually understand what they're talking about. It's frustrating for someone like you because you want you want both sides of the argument to be defended by facts and science. But yeah, it's it's it's just it always comes down to what's it gonna cost the average family per year? Can we jam we reduce that or can we like somehow convince them is not gonna affect their lives? Whereas like, I don't know. I get a lot of people in my age range. So the average estimate was like it'll be seven hundred sixty dollars a year. If you're polluting a for family in Canada. But the the federal government will give you a rebate of five hundred dollars. So all said and done I would pay two hundred sixty dollars a year to do better things for research in relation to renewable energy in the climate again. And I'm okay with that right pick my two hundred sixty dollars that really all I have to pay to develop that great. But do not feel that way. Right. So I feel like there's this constant push pull between science and politicians because in politicians are here to make things better in their opinion. Right now. Yeah. There's science just doesn't move that fast. You can't there's no their answers. Don't come right now. In the answers might be, you know, twenty years of doing something thirty years, and for a politician, they're going to be that's four you know, in America, at least three or four times. They're they're, you know, they're they're career as a politician as a major politician. So that there's no benefit to them. That's a look at a scientific way of doing things. It's absolutely true. And I think that's a huge problem because there's not a lot of scientists doing politics. Well. Well, no. But I mean, there's probably a few reasons for that. But that's how bad there's not a lot of science my meeting. I mean, the politicians don't have scientific background. So they're not coming at it from that viewer, perspective know, exactly it is because they would scientists probably say things that would terrify a lot of the public. And then they never get elected. Exactly. But I think the idea that we're like mongering people is also a bit this construed because I'm more looking to again, like be factual about everything, you know. It's not. Yeah. The climate change issues are terrifying. When you look at the worst projections. A we should we should be focusing on things. They're saying we can't achieve their goals in twenty thirty years that can prevent though they think will prevent a lot of level rise in things like that. But. I don't know. There's a there's a such a huge divide between that that four year term or that eight year term that person might have with the candidate. We don't have limits on the prime ministership. So you could actually theoretically be elected indefinitely as the prime minister when I make sense your government funds the research, which is rarely happens though. Yeah. Well because. Yeah, I don't know again. It's the same thing in the states. There's there's there's such a lack and white thing that the liberals always undo so much conservatives do that they spend when the conservatives getting power they spent so much time trying to redo what they already did. Sure. Yeah. And vice versa. So we've just gotten caught up now more or less what happened after the last conservative government left. And now, we're due for another election in the fall. And if the liberals get voted out. That whole like everything they've done scientifically is gonna be undone very quickly cheese in terms of environmental protections and things like that. In a are in the conservative Representative in Canada is actually very Wednesdays Trumpian. That's not go quite there. But he's definitely like anti change. Pro. Pro nationalism pro like, you know, what I mean? Like, it's. It's the parallels are hard to ignore. And it's a bit strange that happens. My. New job. I be safe. But a lot of people, I know will not be if not respect so. Let's not focus too much on the negative. What do you what do you finding up in in some of your research when what are some cool things you're finding what some interesting things that? You're you're finding up there. Well, one of the I think one of the most encouraging things about polar bears in particular is that they are highly adaptive animals. So a lot of the contaminants. We find in their food sources rings eels. Accumulated quite high levels. But in the bears, we see them Tamminen refunding while we look we look at everything that we can we would think would be concerned. So we look at flame retardants with things that are in your clothing. There's a lot of news about BPA or example, feed LA, which is like a plasticizer flame retardants an Endo can disruptor, but it's not so much of a concern, but chemicals similar to that. Again, we put into any material to stop them from becoming very flammable. We like to make a lot of materials at a petroleum chemicals. Right. Anything synthetic has some kind of element of petroleum, which makes them super flammable. So we add flame retardants to them that basically stopped the fire from spreading these materials, and those are some of the most abundant chemicals find in the Arctic not just in polar bears in birds and seals and fish. Why are you find what people are just discarding their think about the clothing threat is it's not just clothing. It's electron IX, they're huge source. So you know, when you see a circuit board when a little when a fire or spark happens on a circuit board it fizzles out like immediately because he's a high concentration of flame retardant. In that. Oh, no kidding. I had no fucking clue. The reason again, like an electrical system so fire should spread. But they need to make sure that it doesn't. So the ad in these fire-quenching chemicals to these formulas in in. So even in the whole of your computer, there's a bunch of plasticizers flame retardants in the circuit boards themselves. And so yeah. Electron IX clothing carpets upholstery, curtains, like at you know, everything. Yeah. Produces makes sense because you. The home builder's today don't want your house to go up in flames as quick as it could without that stuff. Now. Exactly. And it's it's it's interesting because. You don't necessarily think that the Arctic would be an abundant source of these things, but the people up there also wear fleeces they have computers. So now, there's local sources of their. Whereas we always assume that most of the most of the contamination comes from down here. And it does like we've been a lot of studies in the early nineties that showed even though things are getting into the waterways around here in parts per like quadrille, Ian parts per billion, which is almost ridiculous. Even think about like ten to the negative fifteenth. Like concentrations that those are sizes. You can't even fathom they'll get into the Arctic Ocean in they'll build up in the animals of their because a lot of these chemicals build up fat shit. Okay. Though Arctic animals, even the fish in the Arctic have a higher fat content because the use the fats combat the cold and keep their cell membranes, fluid and. There's a lot of reasons better energy source etcetera etcetera, but because they store fat even the fish. They store blubber in the mammals their more susceptible to humidity. These Tamminen thread. So. Yeah. Years ago, they found some of the industrial chemicals from the south. We're actually higher Arctic ladies breast milk than in a place right beside where they're making 'em holes. I'm a wound because the Arctic people were eating the remembers that had a highly. Yes. Okay. Cannot make sense magnified a higher concentration of these contaminants things. Like, it's a. Yeah. So we look for again, some of these historical chemicals again like the things that we know build up like a flame, retardants and. PCB's they're called and other organic chlorine pesticides like DT most familiar with. But we also look for brand new chemicals in the various things that might not necessarily be concerned yet, most of those new chemicals that we look for the polar bears seem to break down and get rid of. Because we find them in seals are we find them in fish. But by the time we look for them in bears. They're nicer anymore seemed to be gone. So that is a good news story. It means that some of the chemical engineers people that are developing these chemicals. Have been learning from historical historical lessons, in terms of what community doesn't end some cases. These companies actually even higher scientists head of time nowadays. And we'll say we want to use this chemical. To be a plasticizer or flame retardant in a certain material. You tell us whether or not you think this will be an issue. So they'll allow the scientists the chemical run experiments on it tested. So some of the new classes of flame returns things that are placing these really harmful harmful chemicals seem to be seem to be getting broken down and gotten rid of by the by the polar bears, which is a good sign because that means we might be able to do that as well. What do you mean? Like, we as people can get rid of humans. Yeah. Although again, it's a different. Different system. Obviously a in human or quite set quite different. But we often look at either polar bears or seals or high level predators as. As an example of what might happen in humans in the Arctic? So. Yeah. In some cases, it seems like the bears are able to get get rid of some of these chemicals in survive. Are there any other concerns that you're finding in polar bears of contaminants? I mean, the main contami- have been the same for the last twenty years, and that's kind of. That's the scary thing like PCB's. He's he's so PC's used to be used in diametric fluids. So think transformers again things big electrical systems the see on the side of the highway the transformers and stuff like that. They'll be filled with PCB continue fluids. So that there was a fire spark the the PCP was essentially help to extinguish that fire before became a huge issue. But they were banned in the late seventies. And we still find them in the highest concentrations in the animals throughout the. Because they were made to be persistent and not break down. And what what is it doing to the bear? So some of them mimic hormones, so they can bind into receptors that would cause a hormone response. He's not good. Because usually it's thyroid hormones and your thyroid regulates most of the systems in your body to some degree. So if something looks like a thyroid hormone binding to the receptor, your body thinks there's more at home on there than there is it can affect the regulation of pretty much everything in the body, and it can lead to cancers in kinds of other issues. Yeah. In other other contaminants bind to like, sex hormone receptors. So things that are the testosterone or. Or estrogen? Yeah. Those will be important for a pair would be important. Anyone else in any organism? Really? That's developing you need to have the right hormone response. Kind of cascade that happens Renzo. So yeah. The most for the most part what we see a lot of these contaminants in the long term is they seem to interfere with development through the endocrine system. So the five Royd system and things like that or the interfere with the sex Ramones like this Austronesian, and and the estrogen that in some cases, like mercury they're like directly toxic to like the neurological system. But that's that's pretty rare. You're not gonna pull a barrier. An animal in the Arctic is not going to eat something that is so highly them made with a pesticide, for example, that it's gonna go into neurological shocked because the pesticides at a low concentration. It's more the long term effects were looking for. I see. So there's there's really I mean you've been doing that you've been saying this for twenty years, but there's still. There's not enough is enough data to make any conclusions yet, or is it still an ongoing thing that's going to be going for a while. I mean, the other thing is right now like I said one of my projects right now, we're looking at the kind of holistic effects of all all the contaminants in the bear. Normally what we do is look at one contaminant and its effect on a certain enzyme or are one thing, and it's on the sex concentration about I'm trying to do is look at the effects of all two hundred ninety five contaminants that we measure at once in that might give us some insight, but it's still early stage. Most of what we can do right now because polar bears, we don't don't have a lot of captive bears can experiment on like mice. We don't necessarily know. I think I think the public would go crazy if we had captive polar bears like we did mice experiment that -olutely when I first started one of the produce I'm working on. Now. I actually suggested just feeding the polar bears two different diets like one strongly seal meat one that was all fish. And in I got denied. There was no way. Let me do that L immediately. You cannot mess with capital animals. Don't fuck with the polar bears, especially. But yeah. So again, like I said so my colleagues over in Denmark, if actually been showing correlations again, you're familiar with business core relation. Yup. Is just things that tend to increase together, it doesn't necessarily mean. Causation housing the other, right? But again, they're finding pretty consistent relationships of like decreased. Now, bone density was certain contaminant on which again means that the males are gonna be less successful in their reproductive efforts. Whether that will show lead to decrease population in the long run. But those kind of long term projections are really are difficult to do. Okay. They just recently did one with the the killer whale populations across the world, you find those up in the Arctic as well while they're they're getting higher and higher into the Arctic. Now. They used to venture into the Arctic regions but relatively rarely. Yes. By with the warming oceans, they seem to be moving north more and more and killer whales are one of the more terrifying. Things in the ocean for other animals in the ocean answers. They'll eat almost anything in their in their smart in their pod hunters work as group again. There's a lot of things about them to make them super super those videos. You see of them just destroying white sharks? Or just in Sowell. Yeah, there's a whole population of them that are that are shark unders because they figured out against shark liver is mostly fat. So if they just rip the shark open and ease liver leave the rest of the carcass. It's almost like a seal cheese. The but the the one that scene free Willy's just thinking themselves. I had no fucking clue that these animals were just these terrors in the ocean one again, the they're interesting because they can get whites acclimated to people being around them. I'm so their populations where you were near Vancouver. That are not to Vancouver great city that are quite used to having people around him in both do they ever attack humans, or is it is it into one of those things where humans provide no nutritional value to them. They're not threat. It's a good question. I'm not sure the anyway are terrified of them. Well, actually, I'm going to recant that already. But anyway, have a healthy fear of them. Okay. Because they used to go out and hunt seals in kayaks. And when you're in a kayak and a killer whale services somewhere near you. It's it's over a little bit terrifying. Right. Yeah. You're gonna get flipped capsize real quick. If that will hits the kayak, exactly. So there's there's one of the few animals that I've seen a healthy kind of fear of in the Arctic was work, your wills. But yeah, again, they didn't count them that much and they and they don't tend to range for north. But they're getting further and further north now. Anyway, a friend of mine in some other colleagues of mine recently published a paper where they they found that the PCB burden and some of the other pesticide burdens in these killer whale populations across the planet are some of the highest that we've ever seen and that they predicted that I think should know this number that they predicted a small subset of these populations will actually collapse in disappear completely over the course of the next low fifty years or hundred years based on these based on these data, and that's a a Baldy thing to do as antecedents. Because, you know, projecting your data from concentrations individuals in the population out to the entire population is is risky. But I think there needs to be more of that kind of happening in science because. We're all very conservative in. We're we're we don't want to say too much. You know, the mainly. It's like, yeah. The concentrations in this in these polar bears are very high, and maybe it's having affect, but you know, we just need ten more years of data. And in some cases, that may not be the right approach in we should be more conservative in terms of what we're supposing them too. So I was I was quite proud of my my colleagues for for going on a limb and doing something like saying something like that. And if we continue on these same pass than these. A certain number of these killer robot relations are going to and. Yeah, a lot of cases. That'll that'll change the dynamic of the oceans greatly heels again, very unique as some of them that stay in one area. And then some of them that range cross gotten. It's. They've they've they've evolved to Phillies different niches. In the top predators. Nobody really knows what's gonna happen. If that that actually comes to be. So again, I think right now, we're at a point scientifically where we have really cool tools to predict future outcomes. But we still have to be scientific about it. That's balance and be careful, but there's no harm in saying. You know, the word what could happen worse case scenario worst-case scenario. Exactly risk-assessment kind of approach. There are degrees that you can approach and say worst case best case, but. So when when you're doing your are you always on the road or no to be honest in the last little while I've been mostly based on auto while. Okay. So you come into you yet. Even a lot of the lab work is done for me right now, we have technicians that do most of the processing in the relationships with people in the north that are doing a lot of collections. So I've been a computer jockey for a while which is weird. Mentioned you've you've lived or spit within you it. I never lived for an extended period of time in the north. But I've been up for a couple of weeks of time by myself. We're we're north is that so I've been to a place called Joe haven, which is on the near the coast of dinovite, the sixty fifth parallel or so, but my main place of work was always resolute bay. That's the seventy fifth parallel on Cornwallis island. Tiny little village of like two hundred people faces south. I've also been dependent on which is one of the most beautiful places in the Arctic on the east coast of Baffin island. Pinkerton is cut into like a fjord. The bottoms out at a park a youth national park, which means the land that never melts. Glacial park the lake that has three different glaciers feed into hanging. Pinkerton P A N G I R T U N G. Oh, I see. Okay. I'm going to stuff as you speak. So let's go no pangs, again, one of the more or less fucking beautiful scenic places I've ever been to in the Arctic. Resolute is the place that has my heart. But it's mostly flat. Opinions definitely got the views. Definitely. And that's where I saw my first Greenland shark as well or no kidding. Those things are fucking weird. Looking aren't they? They are very weird looking and the we thought they were much rarer than they actually are. But yeah, they're they're they're blind because they live below the light benediction level. Sure. They have like moss growing on the outside of them are not moss algae growing zombie shirks. That's actually the best description ever. Fucking Walking Dead shark. Totally actually that's a perfect description. I try man. But yeah. So what am I friends the works of the university of Windsor? He recently found out that they might be up to five or six hundred years old. I'm seeing one right now one picture from Liz news nation five hundred twelve year old Greenland shark measuring eighteen feet. Yep. Is it the world's oldest living vertebrae? Holy fuck. How is this possible that they're living that long because they're they live in the deep ocean? Their metabolism is like super super slow. We told you we pulled one out of the ocean one points because we were fishing for a helmet relent halibut on a long line. So they said like a thousand meters down the ocean. As reporting the lineup. It was a shark on it, and it was like a ten foot shark, but it did not put up any fight. It was already. It was already wrapped in the line and its gills were damaged. So it was going to going to die regardless. So our new guide said well we'll sacrifices for for samples. But gonna put up like no fight don't think they have a huge amount of energy because they're cold water sharks. What's diet are the hunting? Then. So I don't think the haunt scavenging large-scale scavenger. So whatever falls the ocean floor the. And actually if you look at their teeth. It's interesting 'cause they're top teeth are somewhat pointed in their bottom teeth actually curved over. So it looks like the edge of a serrated breadknife. They don't look like a look at like pointed chart Charkiv, I see. So it's more of something that would be used to slice off chunks. Yeah. Just bite off chunks instead of hold on, and grip and tear like a great white or something. Right. Right. Oh, absolutely. That the prevailing theory is the eat a lot of seal, but usually seals in ready died in sunk the bottom. Anyway, they're fascinating animals in this. My friends have just recently found out that they might live to be like centuries old Christ next time we need a history lesson. We will pull up fuck in Greenland, shark and find a way to communicate with them while they're trying to figure out now too. Because if they've been alive that long they might have traces of contaminants, but also like other useful information in their inner tissues. Problem is because they're sharks. They don't have bone right right in Boehner's off where you can see these kind of long-term. Longterm lay down of contaminants, for example, or other other factors, but they're all cartilage. And so there may not be these long term records in those animals. We can look at do bad. It's the same reason we can age them. Traditionally normally, you would take a chunk of the of the vertebra from behind the head of the shark and they can count the rings in the cartilage like a tree. That would tell you. How old the shark is? When we did that with the Greenland shark. I was there when the Billy means scientists working she pulled out his word in the middle of disconnect fell out. Oh my God. Jelly. So you can age them normally. So they figured out a way to use the radiation from the atomic bomb blast in the forties to track. Track back age science is crazy can do some shit. If you know what you're doing. Holy fuck. Yeah. But yeah, again, I worked with some of those those students in those people up in the north. And this was Pederson that wasn't paying. Yep. Paying so you were around the new at people there. I guess there. They're just accustomed the normal life. They they they seem normal normal. As in what we would assume normal. It's hard to hard to describe the house describe it. So the new folks are. Some of the most welcoming people I've ever met, but you have to be open minded and on like willing to accept that their life is much different than yours remain. They see so much ignorance. And read so much ignorance in they've been through so much shit over the years. Not just the anyway, but the first nations like the southern indigenous people in Canada in the US as well. The have a healthy degree of distrust a lot of the time. Right. And. They have a high demand for scientists to come into the community because we want to know what's going on with the environment. But the main reason, for example, the organ one of the organizations I work for a stab wished was to look at concentrations of contaminants in food to make sure their food is safe. So there's always that spin yet to make sure that you're doing something not just for the science and not just for your purposes, but for the community to and they can sniff out somebody who's there for their own purposes. It has no interest in them really quickly. And they really do not. Appreciate it. We'll take your money, and they'll and they'll help you do what you need to do. If it's been approved by the government. But you know, they really want to see the benefits to their communities. Right. Who governs the right? They'll the the new government. Back in the nineties when we established the territory Nunavut across Canada, they got their own government, essentially, so they functioned as part of the government of Canada. But the land claims agreements being that they have ownership over the land. So I don't need to ask the government candidate for permission to go in my sampling resolute bay, but I have to get approval from the community, hunters and trappers association. I have then they take that to aboard the represents the region has approved there. And then at some level has approved by the by the greater government as well. So they really in in increasingly so now because they're more economically independent and things there. They are looking make sure that the science is going on. There is is not harming the environment for one thing 'cause surprisingly loud people go up there in leave all their crap there, and you know. Do research then fuck off. And it's those those are fucking losers. I totally agree. But it's also not that uncommon are wasn't back in the day. But yeah, I find the it to be refreshing and amazing people because I like the outdoors. I'm not a hunter. But my family's always been hunters. And you know, I threw myself into this from top to bottom several I don't shy away from the from the gory or aspects of what they do because it's their way of life. And I die consist of depends where you are. In the high Arctic like in resolute bay, they're still while actually in a lot of the lot of the Arctic. There's still dependent on some level of of country food or traditional food. So that's caught food on land. So you have seals have fish seabirds like ducks the Okla seabird eggs as well. They also eat berries. Certain likens us herbs like there's lots. There's all kinds of different foods, but largely it's seal caribou fish, and then some other local fruits and stuff. But have you had seal? Oh, I love. I love sumit, actually. And it's is now something that can't get. So I can create it. Would you acquainted to taste like my my first assessment was kind of like fishy? Duck in a bit of a rabbit texture to it in some parts. Is definitely I mean the animals built very differently, but the basic parts of the same. But the first time eating usually they Braise the shit out of it. I'm still the put it in a pot of water and just took it for. A couple of hours until it's tender and they serve it with. Often the only time I've ever had it. It's been served with powdered mashed potatoes makes into Whitman potatoes. And then blew Kuwait as relates nice touch. Well, you know, the booze hard to come by there and very expensive. So a lot of the new communities have actually banned alcohol, so all no kidding. You can still get it. But it's yeah. You can't drink public. You can't be drunk in public. You have to special order it. It's a big deal. I mean, the the common conception of in you. It's the all live in igloos. I'm looking at pictures of resolute bay, and they have a nice little houses. Yeah. The laws is this is just normal urban as urban as it gets up there. But yeah, but but the seal is really interesting again because it's when you look at it. It's a deep deep. Maroon color. Red like you've never seen. It's very unique unabridged until I was eating the one of my first pieces in the is really good. My friend was like, that's the flipper. But yeah, it's probably pretty. Yes. Shape. I guess. I know it's if it's braised properly the the gravy Ford's, really nice. But we we discovered the hard way that. Our metabolism doesn't really deal with the same way. There's. You mean as yet? So so my Indian friend as we were helping ourselves through a second portion. It was like you guys have all you want is like, you guys should be careful. It'll make you hot. And my friend that was with me on that trip. He was like the field expert wasn't a scientist per se. He looked at me with like this guy. Telling the truth as MO. I don't think. So I think it's just any we find and we were not fine. We we ate at other whole like plateful seal meat. That was my friend for a little bit. And then we were flying out couple days later we were walking back to our hotel. And as we're walking back, and it was like I can't stop sweating. And like I had my parka off in those just carrying it in my friend was like I don't feel good like what's happening here. You said we'd be fun. Scientists. Yeah. So turns out again, this he'll blubber in the seal meat is rich in like a in very short chain fatty acids. In those super short chain fatty acids, get shunted into your by Bollock cycle faster than some carbohydrates proteins do. So your body will process. Those in fat creates three times as much energy as protein or carbohydrates. So when you're burning up that fat, it's creating that much more energy on top of what your normal heating up. So you literally heat up like we we went back to the hotel room when I was laying there with the window open in and my boxer shorts. Just like laying in the bed praying that I didn't I thought I was just going to overheat, death and. I did there's no research that I could find on this. It was just like basic nutritional was it. So for the new it is just because they've been eating it so long that they're they they're custom do it or they don't eat as much as you do they do they know ration a little bit. I think it's both. He was much more conservative as much as much aid. But they also were much more conservative diet dieters than we are in general, right? Like, also, I think we have we have that typical North American like abundance of food kind of Michelle. Okay. I know Suzanne they they are much more conservative of northern they'll eat enough their full, but they'll never that. I've seen overindulge. You know, what I mean conservative need to save for the next next meal in the next month, the whatever else read, so yeah, they don't they don't eat till they don't eat till they're full like, we probably all do. Exactly sometimes I eat till. I'm uncomfortably full. Yeah. Exactly. And you know that you did some wrong. But but that's it. So the since the eighties. I guess in the seventies. They've had much more access to like process, crab and foods up north and not surprisingly the rates of diabetes have gone through the roof the rates of heart disease and should have gone through the roof. My best one of my best friends in resolute bay, Peter Amrou, look, he's only fifty fifty five now actually and he's had a triple bypass when he was in his early forties. The holy shit person. Yeah. And somehow he made it from fucking readily. What what do you call in you it early into it? Yep. It depends in certain parts of candidates in. But innuendos sells pronounced it. There's a lot like I don't call. You a Canada person? I call you. No. So none of it is like the land of the people what the translation is catching and in you. It means people of the land, basically. So is their way of shirking eskimo which in that nickel. Translation means eater of raw meat believe. They always felt that it gave them an imagery of savagery, which is not what we're dry so any wit does not equal eskimo. Well, they used to be called ask him owes used to be all I got what you're saying. Or when they reclaim their land as Nunavut they renamed their people as God it as. But yeah. Anyway, regardless the. The seal meat has always been prized and whatnot. But once I had this he'll meet when you're out on the land, and you're working in the snow, and it's cold if you're dissecting seal and you get cold. They literally would toss you a small chunk of Rossio meat you eat chunk of Ross, you'll meet and you feel your body. Literally go in you, feel a rush. Yeah. It's within within five minutes. You literally feel it was that taste like fat. We'll know again, it's chunk of meat not the blubber. That's right. Stupid me. I'm I'm a stupid chimps. I have not been it's it's it's not the beluga. They actually chew on the muck like the fat in the skin, but not so much in the seal. Why's that? Why did they do that with the beluga? I don't know. I guess the the taste to the United is good. I I've tried muck before. And I did not like it. I do it. As a as a polite gesture if I'm offered, but it's not not tasty seal made any fish. They make up there. Ali Ross, not autumn. Muck talk. Yeah. No beluga. Meet my liking in our will only one. No, I I don't know. I don't know what it was. I don't know. I don't think I try all of this will ever make it up there. But I am curious. Try feel seal me something that I'm trying actually to get a friend of mine to send me self in a cooler with some samples for us. Right. So that I can cook. Some for my buddies show them at our annual man's weekend. This year. But I think yeah, I think now I know enough that I can cook it without giving everybody the shits. I've always been interested in science as a kid. I wanted to be a scientist no joke in what in what kind of aspect? I had no idea. I just wanted to be a scientist because I love animals, and I love studying things, and then I got into school in realized this is much more complicated and much more apply than I want to in school. So now, I'm just going to do something easier. But was this something you always wanted to do or you just like was always you're calling. I I want to study science in some ways, I guess, my when I was a little guy I spent a lotta time outside, and I was always super-rich didn't nature in asking questions about nature. And we have told you guys before my parents were were super young. When I was born my mom was only fifteen in my dad was sixteen. So that's that's crazy on. So we didn't have a lot of money in my grandmother helped raise me. So when we needed to do something, we just went outside. And so we was a creek that I used to splash around in. And I have old sketchbooks. You know, there are drawings of like the little crayfish and stuff that used to find an often. And it got it got to the point where I was asking questions. My granny couldn't answer. So we go to the library in figure out what those things were what this was that was the beginnings of it. But to be honest when I was in like my early teen years I wanted to be an artist more than anything. So I want to be accomplished artist night. Most my sketchbooks are filled with wolverine Spiderman dead bull drawings and whatever else and through high school that was kind of where I was leading for the most part. And then I figured out that math. I could be good business. So I also kinda aired off into that. Path a little bit in high school is to figure out my life. But then I realized that wasn't creative enough to be successful artists like a copy people stuff, but I was not going to be the next Jim Lee, you weren't inventing superheroes through pen or pencil. Exactly. Maybe I was going to be an inker who made twenty five dollars a page was not gonna do do it. Ryan. That's no way to live. And then the business thing again, I took a few business courses, and it just didn't appeal to me and at the same time, I was taking like weight greed thirteen we had at the time, but senior level chemistry and biology, and those teachers like basically came to be together and said you should go to university to do something in this field. So they were the ones that was the influence while they were like, you're you're good at this. You don't seem to acknowledge that. But like, maybe maybe this is a job and up until that point. I hadn't really considered that. I could go do the thing that I wanna do when I was five. And be marine biologist, you know, like in inducing in that area in what I actually considered it. The most the stuff that I watch discovery was always related everything that I was actually passionate about was ocean related. I was in denial in some way, I guess or I didn't realize that could be a job. So you can so now marine biologists marine biologists as well. Because my undergrad degree was in marine biology, my bachelor bachelor sciences, marine and freshwater biology, and I specialized in physiology and in biochemistry so looking at how animals were in then how they adapt to different conditions and then yeah. And so then I finished my bachelor's in. I don't know I to a bunch of government jobs. It didn't come through right away. So like a cocky Twenty-three-year-old, they got fed up and was working in the restaurant industry. Had a really good time working the restaurant industry for a few years, but got to a management job where I realized that also was not what I wanted to do that. I was missing my my passion that wanted to do something challenge me, and to be honest. It was actually a weekend in Chicago. With this with a friend of mine that I went and did my undergraduate with that I've known since we were ten and he's like after many, you're swimming in Lake Michigan went there's no fucking animals than here at our any cool. I wanna study some cool animals. Let's go we were supposed to go to the beach. We didn't make it because hung over. But. No. But he one night after many beers. And whatever else he sat me down was like, I went to university with you. I watched you heal yourself to be a scientist. And now you're managing a restaurant that you don't really like. Don't care about what the fuck happened. Injured. Those your come to Jesus. And that was my to do this moment. Like very shortly thereafter, I decided fuck it in. I quit. My job. And back into school. And then here I am. So it's a follow the right path. It took me a little bit of time to find the right person to go back to school with. But I went back to get my PHD when I was twenty eight of older how long did it take to? Let's not talk. Got it. Right. No. It took me seven and a half years. So yeah, I finished round thirty five. It shouldn't it should have been shorter. But I yeah, I got whatever there's a lot of life things that happened. But also, I got sidetracked into some some projects on the side that meant a lot to me. I'm so. Yeah. It wasn't. I didn't speed to the finish. But definitely got there. And it was it was well worth Ryan. But it was. Yeah. It was a long one. You know, you you mentioned marine biology is it so random question here? Is it true is the sperm whales that can dive deep into the fucking ocean. They fight those killer those giant squid. Yes. I think I don't know if that's been confirmed if in Italy or not, but the sperm definitely can get down into the trenches. Does that happen? They collapsed their lungs. Their entire body system. Basically like, they're the allow it to collapse as they go down into the pressure of the ocean. Fuck. The joints between certain parts of their bones. And the ribs and stuff like that. So that everything crunches in. Yeah, they get they get down there. Because there have expelled all the auction from their bodies. They don't need to worry about the Ben's going up. That's he asked trapped in your system right right in some of the wounds on the sperm whale head. They think the only thing that could possibly cause them would be giant squid? So, yeah, if you go onto YouTube, I believe there's like Anna Matic's of sperm whales fighting giant squid. I've seen that stuff. Proven. There's been videos. I saw discover that giant squid or real thing. They've caught video of him. Oto they've known giant squid? And well, there's two there's two different species are two different Morphou types. Like there's somewhat giant squid? That's in the like the middle. There's the giant giants with. And it's it's they're huge. And they pull them up there joke there. They definitely ruled the oceans before the metals, I'm sure the giant squid you think so they're in my invertebrate zoology class. They were like touted as pretty much the perfect predator. In terms of the way, they hunt. There. I is actually better than ours. In a lot of ways on no kidding. Because they're the way that our I translate translates images that it has the flip like the images projected onto our retina upside down, and that our optic nerve, actually, flips the image. Whereas in squid it's projected directly so in some ways, their visions actually better than ours, and it actually works in the very similar way. They have the Jet Propulsion mechanisms they can actually like shoot themselves at things their beak is like super resilient anyway that there they were again viewed as one of the more effective in voracious predators believe in prehistoric, oceans ho kidding yet. I mean giants Witter the stuff of I love all that shit. When the when they released video where they caught a giant squid on camera in in the wild. I was like fuck. Yeah. That's dope. And they laid on the table. All right the water. Now, there's one where they catch it on video, and they catch it for brief. Yeah. And then it's swim jets away. But there's one of the I believe it was one of the first video. I think it was on Discovery Channel was one of the first videos of one alive in in not caught or anything to slow a natural occuring quiz would. Yeah. And that's the that's rarely getting stuff from the deep ocean. And getting into the surface intact is is difficult. A lot of some of the fish explode in a lot of things with the pressure change. Is that right only fuck on make it? Yeah. That would be that's tough way to go. The pressure explosion the ads. I mean, I would make sure being probably the worst. Besides being eaten that you. Just gotta kinda slowly expand. So what what do you primarily studying up there? Besides like is it's bears. But it's everything right. Yeah. Again, right now focus on the bears caribou in seabirds. But I have a a hand in research is bare seabirds seals kinds of fish. And not muscle, many of the obscure animals like the wolverines of like that. But most of the major things that are important to the new it. We we have some kind of some kind of hand in the birds are actually something that was never my my interest in my day when I was younger, but birds are amazing greeters than they cover such amazing distances with their migrations that we're seeing really interesting in different trends in birds and than we see in the mammals have gained a new appreciation. I wish I'd learn more birds when I was in undergrad degree. Another big bird guy either. We'll get they seem kind of their unemotional. They're cutting drag of animals, but I don't know again, they're their their behaviors in the way that they. Yeah. The way they've evolved is fascinating. I've always been more of a just in general and predator in liking person, not necessarily birds there's predators. But in a bears lions Tigers, sharks Wales. Squid so really reading the side. It can kill you. We phantom shares when you're young are your fan shark week. All my God all day. Great whites Tigers bull sharks Amer heads. Let's go all day with sharks. I mean that was my probably my first real love in the ocean. Again, when around that period, I told you about where I was kicking around things in stream in learning science. Has four or five was my my dad will tell you the story where he went to the library. He got me every jockey documentary could just chubby up. Busy for a while. Like, okay, here's fourteen hours of my dad did the same exact thing. He bought me something from Discovery Channel. Where was I remember, maybe ten fifteen tapes, VHS tapes about sharks, and it was just one after the other put put this one in watch it? All right watch the next one just exactly just shut up about sharks his watch this. I remember being inundated with VHS of sharks. And what's amazing is if you go back to those old school Jaakko documentary, videos and things. Yeah. He's very non-confrontational about the strikes. He doesn't want them to be perceived as predators while that is as dangerous predators. Really? Right. Like they like to highlight that in some ways. So that it's, you know, fascinating to the viewer. Right. But he goes out of his way in a lot of those videos to be like, these aren't killers. Like, they're not here to each you. Like, just you know, what's your favorite study them in think about them in a way that doesn't involve eating you like when you trace it back. Like jaws itself had a huge impact on the striking industry really fucked things over for the sharks. There was a. Yeah. One of my professors of the study of fish professors at university he had some statistics on this in like literally caused like a a massive kill sharks off the coast of the United States in every part of the US. Just the panic. Scary fucking shark in that movie. But there the great wits jaws is supposed to be great white that correct? That's correct. Yep. Yeah. Integrate whites although dangerous aren't actually the most dangerous. No, they say bull sharks probably are sharks. Bolshoi Tigers bull shark, especially come into shallower water shell wider, they'll go into freshwater. But I think the bulls end up in like sediment, rich water onto worth murky. So they'll just bite things out of out of interest. Whereas the great whites tend to be Ebro Shen like you're not gonna get a eighteen foot. Great white shark creeping too close to the shore. Get stuck. It's not going to get back. But a, you know, a ten foot boats are still can do damage, and it's right there. I saw some reports recently they think something like thirty or forty percent of the shark attacks attributed the great whites off the Florida in Caribbean. Coast were actually probably bull sharks kidding. They've found bull sharks? I mean, they found him all the way up in the Chicago river and in in some instances. I mean, they can they can swim upstream pretty quickly. Yeah. They definitely they definitely can't. It's there's not a lot of fish that can do that. But very few sharks. Can do it. It involves an adaptation the Gill filaments like the cell, the cells that move chlorine in and out, basically reverse, but it's a very like. I don't know. It's very costly thing to do physiologically. So surprising. There's a big shark that can do it. Maybe it's slightly different mechanism. Not sure. But, but it it's I mean imagine seeing something like both rock in a river in like that would be fucking terrifying. That it does happen in Africa and stuff as well. It's all really a bull sharks? Get up in there too. Yep. Yep. Definitely. But that's crazy. But my favorite show is still the hammerhead. I think they are because they're so fucking weird looking. They are. There's reasons for it. But it's yeah. They're just what's why why are they built like that? So there's a scientist named Peter climb Lii. And he did he did his PHD on hammer heads, actually, but there so they're off the southern Californian coast there. There's a big population. There's also great whites. These studies there as well. But. I don't know that this indefinitive, but his research show this pretty pretty soon Lee. So right off the Costa. There's a bunch of seamounts so underwater mountains that used to be volcanic have all kinds of activity. So they have you know, a stream of magma basically the comes out the top. And then creates these these lines the move outwards from the amounts. So you have this bound in the middle of the ocean with a bunch of of spokes basically coming off in different directions. In some cases, they go for miles and miles and miles. And then there's other seamounts nearby. And and what have you? But so what this guy observed was the sharks would just hang out in this seamounts of there'd be a huge school of great whites are side of hammerhead sharks around the Seamount. And then as the darkness kind of came in they would start migrating out, and they all vanish into different directions. And then they would come back. Then there seems to be some kind of like jockeying for position than and whatever else and. Yes. What what he figured out was basically, the the hammer heads are using the hammer as a an electoral sensing organ, so all sharks have these on their snouts have these cells. I should not even sell their called the Puglia Lorenzini. So they're a sensory organ, isn't that the stuff that the the guys that have found out nowhere. Nowhere to touch them can put a shark asleep. Yes. Similar kind of idea that you can Sakata sedate them by by stimulating them in the right way. Sure. But on motion wrecks, the concentrated just on the snout. And they again, they use them to detect vibrations in the water or they think actually in close proximity can detect literally like your muscle DiPoto rising. You know, there's a slight electrical conduction in your muscles nerves and everything they the sharks actually detect that in the water. And when you look at actually the Greenland shark much earlier, you can actually see the lower Lawrence any on their snow, which you can't normally see with the naked eye, and we think they're bigger on the Greenland shark because they're blind. So they have a better let your son's. Yeah. But anyway, but the hammerhead by using the hammer in moving those cells across a wider space. They have a much better resolution. Okay. So they they when you watch hammer it's all sharks of undulate from side to side anyway, but the hammerhead has a really exaggerated side to side motion when it swims, especially if it's near his home range, and it's just kind of it's not obviously going somewhere. So you think that it uses the hammer basically detect differences in the electro magnetic field, and then it would follow the magma paths out into the deeper ocean until they found squid hunting grounds because hammer has largely a lot of squid or fish anyway piece by piece this guy put together the hit the hammer was used as a as a navigational tool. And again by spacing them out further. They were able to get a greater resolution on what direction they should be going in. That makes a lot more sense. So there is actually an explanation for people still look at them like these weird. They just look alien they especially when you when you have a general idea of what a shark looks like, and then you throw a fucking hammerhead, and they're also off pudding. What must there? I look like. Right. Work. I'm not really nobody. I don't think. Nobody. I don't think anybody really knows because you can't trap these things and study them in captivity. It's almost impossible to study, captain sharks. They don't survive in captivity. Really, most of them don't know. I mean, there are some I believe in in parts of the world. But I've seen a few into the shut aquarium here in Chicago. Okay. With you. But the nurse sharks in like certain species of sharks in throw in there. But like bigger, I know gray whites don't take well to kept entity. And perhaps ever heads would because they're not quite as Gresley. But again the need. I don't know. There's no stimulation for them. And there's no is it tough thing. But yeah, no. I've always found him to be fascinating. And like if you put them in captivity they're not gonna let you study their brain to figure out what's happening with each. I. What if? I'd like to do all kinds of crazy mad scientists experiments, but they're just evil. That's all. But it's. So I think I think the pitcher the hammer had gets from that sense must paint a very different picture than what we see the world has. I would assume it'd be completely different. I mean, just the the fact that the eyes are the eyes can't even you know, you can't go cross eyed fucking grew hammer that's for sure. Yeah. No. I don't I have no real concept of what how there's no there's only you can even fathom what they're they're looking at. So how much here's a here's a random question because I have to ask because I've assigned son. I listen to Joe Rogan podcast. How much does it frustrate you that flatter is thing again? Or do you think these people are just trolling? And it's no one really believes this. Yeah. Well, there's been a couple of people in the in the podcast group that kind of tried to tempt me into commenting on the flat earth stuff. And I am tempted, but it's it's not worth even commenting. That's that's my perspective on it like. Have you seen the cartoon mockups of what the universe would look say every round his goal? And there's this little discs. Right. Why would that be? I don't know. But you've been up to the Arctic. Right. I have I have seen the curvature of the earth. And I've looked what I was going to ask you is have you seen the ice wall that the flatter? They're going to the Arctic defined the ice well down there. That's I don't I don't even know how to. It's really not even worth like when Rogin brings it up on his podcast. I roll my eyes. And I just think to myself come on, bro, you're smarter than this. Don't give this anytime. I mean, I don't think Rogan Rogan's is putting out there because it gets in listens. Right. I don't think he actually leaves in. No. He doesn't believe it. He just he does it first off to fuck around with people. Also, his voyage, Eddie Bravo. Actually kind of believes it. But he because he's just a conspiracy theorist in general. So he'll entertain it a little bit just show. How dumb Bravo is. But yeah, it's it's I have some interest in listening to some of those crackpots that are talking about all the conspiracy theories and things like. I just don't I don't believe that the world is out to get us in that way. You know, like too many if for any of the lot of those conspiracy theories, and there are some that I think, you know, have a volition or are valid. Rugen always mentions Gulf of Tonkin and other things as well. But there's just too many for for instance, the the flatter if that was a conspiracy there's too many people in the in the know of this that are hiding it. There's there's the chain of command is so far along now that too many people are in on it. And that's for a lot of conspiracies in my opinion. There's just too many people that would have to be in on it. Yeah. For it to be there'd be more people getting executed. Right. If they were actually trying to cover this. But I mean for me, the flatter thing is the funniest part is like, and I know they contend that. We never went to space. So that's argument. Yes, also would have been able to blast into space without understanding their spherical, and there's a force of gravity that acts on the spherical planet in moon. And you know, I mean, like, it's the basic fundamentals of allow the calculations of cosmic things that we know of based on that. And there's a lot of everyday inventions that are because of NASA research data lights, you know. It's again, even like the phone like anything like any a lot of the stuff we use every day is because of NASA researcher military research and to benefit off of that. But then deny that these other things happened just is hypocritical stance. Benefit off of the technology that you're able to use every day believe if this technology were, but then believe, oh because I didn't see this happen. It could. Word is a flawed stance to have I know. I know I who's the who's the one guy that was building his own rockets. You see that guy? He was launching himself in the whole. No, I don't know how far up getting he's getting like he's getting pretty high though, he's getting fifteen twenty kilometers up. Like, what is he trying to prove? He was trying to see that the earth was flat. He actually wanted to get to the point where he was in the like, the troposphere and the good see I like just get see space, and then could confirm that the earth was just flat. Which baffles me that some asshole was willing to strap himself. There's something he built in his backyard. Yeah. We'll we'll move on from that. Because they're really I mean, it's it's fun to to troll that it's, but it's not whether that's on there really needs to be discussed. The other interesting thing somebody brought up just to anger beans. The day was the hollower series. Which is basically the Athol Mann, basically the acrobats. Once you get to a certain point. Through the earth. Like, you have to go through the mantle and whatever else, but at some point you'll get to a place where it's just a hollow another earth like there's warned by the core of the earth. So there's like a warm ocean in Elliott things in there. I don't even know how this is the the the problem with social media is I feel like this stupidity is always kind of been around. But now you can hear about it from it's more prevalent to hear about the stupidity. Whereas people to join up join up right like them fifteen twenty years ago, the asshole that believe that the Hirth was also maybe spoke that to twenty of his friends in his in his town. And then ten of them probably went in your and the other ten maybe thought about it. And then they forgot about it. But now you can discuss this with millions of people across the internet. And when you extrapolate dumb theories across the internet, someone's gonna fucking believe it. Exactly. And that's I I don't know. I mean, that's why doesn't surprise me to so many people deny climate change is so many people believe the crap that Trump puts out there. So many people are willing to just believe Shizuo. It's not nine percent net. That's the stat right now, Burke Lamma change. Yeah. Amongst the believe, it's among the Mike. Scientists study that type thing in there in some kind of field related to it. It's ninety nine percent. So normally and science we set the threshold point five point zero five so five percent when the are, you know, when you have a statistically significant result, you accept it might be wrong. Five percent of the time by random chance. Right. That's just when you're doing math and you're working with a small sample size. That's canada. This this thing that you accept but obviously with climate change. We're trying to look for a bigger and better number. So ideally, we'll get to like ninety nine point nine percent. But you know, ninety nine percent or even ninety eight percent or anything above ninety five is within the acceptable. Scientific realm of this is not by chance or by natural cycle. This is something that's the influenced by humans now, it's being influenced by human. But I think a lot of people agree on that. Now the rate at which it people are influencing climate change, isn't is that up for debate. Like are some people saying it's way more than it should be in her summer saying it's being influenced by humans, but it's nothing we should be concerned about. K that no that's a sensitive question. But I, but I think it's important. I I think so different models calculated in different years will give you a slightly different estimate. Right. That this is how we've ended up with the in fifty years it's going to be catastrophic sea level rise in one hundred years is going to be Castro rise in twenty years. It'd be keeps going back and forth. I think that's because people keep essentially recalculating these values based on new short-term projections in the model like you're adding five years at a time, right, right? Or you're adding two years at a time a musher how they do it. Exactly. But I don't think the added necessarily year to year because again, that's not going to show you a long term trend, right? But when you add so you had another ten years of the end of a long term cycle. If there's a big change in that ten years, again shifts that curve, quite a lot like that that that line that you're fitting predicts. With that date is in when we're projecting it back over thousands of years or hundreds of years, a fluctuation of twenty to fifty years is not actually that. Unexpected. Like statistically, that's within the realm of error. Right. I mean like. So I mean, whether this catastrophic sea level rise in twenty one hundred twenty fifty twenty one fifty or twenty two hundred it maybe not is maybe not the point in what I'm getting at like, it's. The problem that we got to earlier as well. As again, people are sighted people want the want results in things they can see immediately politicians focus on. So the politicians they're anti climate change focus on those fluctuations in the uncertainty churn today, all they said we're gonna be underwater by now. Whereas that like no Bonaly safe years, they say a hundred years, but again, that's if you're looking at actual models like that that range of air is not that unusual. So I know people want more people want answers right now in seems like the answer is. Needs to be we need to study this more in at I feel like it hasn't been studied in science. Here's a really hasn't even been studied all that long to make definitive conclusions on on what's going to happen other than yes, humans are affecting this in a way, that's unnatural to the way the earth is now you're exactly you're exactly right. There hasn't been any serious study in this area. I don't think for more than sixty years. That's a blip on the earth life cycle. That's nothing. You that's nothing in terms of the the weather patterns on earth. Although like the first climate change paper was proposed or the first climate change like person that postulated that there was going to be an issue. CO two was in the eighteen hundreds. Yes, he observed that there was a like a heat trapping effect of CO two. It was a pretty basic approach basic idea, and it was known. This would probably be an issue throughout the second industrial revolution. But you know, it wasn't the priority in the priorities were the wars depression, like feeding people in making sure we were offending our nations and things so now we're at a point where this has become a bigger issue. But it's been put off for so long. It's gonna but but at the same time like you said, it's a short time we studying. But people still want these long term results, and it's we're not we're not there yet in when people do try to give long-term results they get chasta's like when they're off. But if the years in a thousand year projection. It's not that big of a that's not that big of a difference at that point fifty years. Nothing. Exactly. So I mean, I think that's my my perspective on I think the the models. They built in the things they've been doing incredible. They don't they don't get enough credit because they spend so much fucking time. Arguing people whether or not what they're doing is is real or not when they're they're spending the time doing this assists in doing the math that. It's not manipulating the data. It's revealing the proper trends in the data. This this era we live in where people aren't believing scientists. It's it's gone. And it's gone crazy. And we will aren't aren't shy about voicing their scientific opinions on things when they know under zero understanding of what's going on. Whereas like when people start voicing their opinions on economics, and that they get shot on instantly rain, but yet some some politician that has no fucking idea. What he's talking about can get up there and question science, and everyone starts to Clint question. What he questioned as exactly. Yeah. Put a sheet of graph on some visual aid. That is like, you know, his little intern made for him and like in suddenly, he's an expert on climate really kinda hurt that though is the fact that allegory was the guy in America that brought up climate change. Fair enough. Because it was you know, he's a politician. He brings it up. Everyone's thinking, it's a political thing that he brought up and he might have used it for his own political gain. So that kinda that kinda wasn't the best start. There was some political jockey on his part there. But I also do think that was really interesting reservation like you did a good job. And he had a lot of good science in it. That was the kind of shitty part of it was just because he was the messenger that. Yeah. Exactly that shit for it. But it wouldn't have gotten out there either. We wouldn't be talking about right? Yeah. It wouldn't have gotten wouldn't have gotten disseminated to the same people who wasn't him. So he put a scientist up there. We got scientists all the time across the world climate change, and nobody cares. So gives a two fucks. Yeah. It's a again, like I said, it's a very trying time right now with people being concerned with their day to day expenses and whatever else and then being like, whoa. Climate change is going to increase that if they're gonna charge me for carbon taxes and yet, but like every day your expenses are going up anyway. Because of climate change us don't recognize it. You know, what I mean like to disseminate that message and explain it to every individual person is a lot of work. It is in nobody. And it's almost impossible. It's an impossible task there. Prairie provinces in Canada. The locked into the middle of our competent. That had huge flooding issues in the last couple years because the McKenzie river connects to the ocean, and there's been floods in certain parts of the country were never have been as extensive floods as there have been several etc. The people in those areas of the first ones the fight any initiative to try and do anything but climate change because they're in the oil provinces in there in the places where we we're getting the oil from. So they're they're torn between their economic needs in there. That's connection of that flooding, which is definitely connected to climate change. But they don't want to pay for it. I I don't know. It's a. The very difficult. Interesting dichotomy what you know, what we should worry about is that you're right. That's gonna hit us, but will level this planet. We should be worried about and again, that's a very real possibility. There's did you see that the Rogin mentioned this that they found a meteorite impact or an Ashra whatever mash asteroid or meteorite impact somewhere that was the cause of the last ice age or something like that. Did you see that? I did see something about that. I don't know. I'm not I'm not all that familiar with either. But that's a that's a real thing that could happen. Definitely what we also. We did also have a another recent like meteor pass that was surprisingly close to the planet. Was fucking terrifying. Within again within a certain distance lows close in relative terms of space, isn't all that close for two months. But again, I believe it was one of those ones like snuck up didn't predict coming because it was shot off some random asteroid belt somewhere. What have you? But like. You know that kind of stuff. I don't know. Maybe maybe there's a plan to deal with that. But I do are we gonna send up Bruce Willis? And Ben Affleck go. I know they have plans they have plans to mine asteroids. Right. So they must have planned to land on an asteroid. So they must be maybe a well, all you would from what I've I've misses me doing my bro science, but I remember looking into it, and you would need to obviously identify it right away, and the need to attach something to that asteroid to just push it slightly off course. So that by the time it gets earth. It's out of the path. Yeah. That's either you blow something up on it right scores or weighted down. And if it's far enough way, I could just it'll it'll calculate that any small tail or something on it would. Veered off a small re near its. That's what amazes me about this whole tool like space travel events like much Apollo thirteen. And all that kind of crap when they're calculating they're like projections around the around the moon and housing to sling shot them back to earth and yet yadda yadda like relations that are off by fractions of a percent. They were doing with slide rulers. In a little like tin foil thing. Freezing to death. They don't go up there though. So it wasn't real. Let's why. Well, exactly. That's that's why it's it seems impossible because it was never happened with that was the space travel in being astronaut was one thing that I always wished I could do I never would have the opportunity, but they're not really they're not sending too many people up in space anymore. Are they know in in Canada? We we have a pretty good space program, actually. But. There's like eight or ten thank proper astronauts people there. It's such a small small small small industry to get into. Well, what a time I thought about it as past my prime. I also figured out that I had a slight heart issue and a slight brain issue with pressures out, those things would kill me instantly. For them. But like, Chris Hadfield? I don't know if he is. But. He's one of the he's spent some of the most time in space out of any any astronaut, okay on the ISS forever is the what he was the Canadian those playing guitar real all the time ever solos. Yes. Yup. But he he's just he's the pitted. Me of like, a cool. Scientists in the main like he. He doesn't shy away from the fact that he's a geeky loves math love science. But he is like, but it me the space. I'm up your planning ATar like shit ever hear any any tweeted all the time while he's on the I s just you know, he he I think he engaged he personally engaged. So many thousands of kids in wanting to be scientists whether or not they were astronauts like, I think he literally changed. I think the a little bit of the academic landscape with. The stuff that he was able to draw interest to science needs to be cooler. Like it needs to be an it is cool, but it needs to be publicized as being cool. I think it's honestly, and I say this with no irony. I think the superhero Jonah helps that is. Yeah, that's true. When you think about it, again, literally all the major characters are brilliant. Scientists absolutely true. I mean, you got hulk Tony stark. You've got to Challah brilliant, his sister's, brilliant brilliant. Yeah. Exactly everyone. It's just it's not cool to be a dumb guy. No. The the leaders are any now they've made like aunt. Sue storm's genius. Again. Most of these characters are are scientists in some way or another. And that's a good way. I didn't even think about that mostly especially marvel most of the coal characters scientists. Yeah, we talked about this in the episode five and the jocking nerd where Stanley had a again, a huge just like opened a goal, by the way. What do you? A beer you drink and over there. Kronenbourg Blunk what the fuck is that? So it's a weed beer. I'll nice it's springtime, I'm getting in the mood. So I'm I'm pound down a water as we speak. So I'll use knows levels were at your your better better human than me. Weekday drinking is rough for me. I can't if I drink on the weekday. I'm one of those drinkers where five one I'm having like seven, and then I'm gonna wake up hungover. I am usually too. So I'm gonna try. I'm not gonna party at my by myself litter. So hopefully. Yeah. You know, you're right. I think again, I think the perception of sites has always been that geeky vast them. But I think that's changed go to bed, and it's a good point. I think you you might be right about that changing. Even even myself. I guy I did. Well in science did well at math. But I was also a jockey kid, and I never really associated with the nerdy kids in school. Even though I would have paintings for our class that were spider man in wolverine. Like, I never got mocked for. You know what I mean? It was never was quite the opposite. That's an awesome failing. So I don't know. I think that maybe there's been a transition at some point. I think it is at least for me and my perception of the world is it's cool to have multiple interests in multiple things. You know, I feel like. The the label of being a nerd or a geek or jock or whatever you are at. I don't know. I'm not in high school anymore. So I don't know if it's thing. But me, personally, I don't I don't feel like those labels all all exist for me or do. I even care. I like what I like. And I think a lot I think that's getting it's getting to the point with a lot of people where they like what they like. I think that was definitely even even when I was asking that's the way it was still. There was still definitely the like the ban geek kids and stuff like that. But like they were they had their own group people need partied into their own thing. So it wasn't ever. A I don't know. It was never that weird hierarchy of crappy movies. How do they how are you on time? By the way, I'm good for you. Good for nettleton and keep going. We're almost almost two hours. But we'll keep going because this is good. How does the smart motherfucker like you? Come across the stupidity. That is the jogging podcast. And I'm sorry. I've sure I've asked you this before. But quite quite frankly, I've forgotten and I wanna know again. So there was a point during my PHD where literally I had done all of my lab work done a lot of stuff, and I just had to sit at the computer instead these graphs, and you basically just have the highlight the area under a curve. So there's a little peek in being like, a triangle shape in the graph. You highlight the area under it in creates a concentration for. I had to do that for like nine months. So on top of the months that put into it. So I literally I just needed something to listen to all the time. It was good. So I listen to a lot of music all been a big music fan of all kinds. But that's when I discovered podcasts. Really? There was a radio show. I listen to around Toronto dean Blundell show, and they're in they used to put a podcast out of their show after the show on I tunes. And so that led me to the I tunes app. And then I realized that there was like thousands of podcasts on there, and I had no idea so many. So I started just downloading stuff that was related to as shit. There's people talking about all this random crap. But there is garbage out there man in just a lot of it. I mean, I don't I don't mean to sound like the I'm on top of the hill. 'cause I'm I'm not, but there's a lot of just garbage podcast, which not only bad content, but poor sound quality. We're show structure all sorts of garbage. And again, I'm willing to lean on the poor sound quality of it's really interesting podcast. We'll I'm willing to give up x y if one of the other things exceptionally good. So I mean, the main one that I found I'm sure he has listened to is the weekly planet via those guys were awesome. And I still listen to that every week. I think they're funny. They they have good back and forth. Good report. And they they have a they're both AUSSIE which helps too 'cause there's someone something different sounding if you're from North America, and they and their their their legitimately funny guys. They have good good banter. I think they're legitimately like they're just be funny to hang out with you know, what I mean? Like, it doesn't feel put on. Was listening to say some of the names. So they don't want to bad mouth anybody. But. There's a few other podcasts they listened to for a while? I thought were interesting, but. I don't know self serving or just not interesting or the sound quality was out at the parcel when I found your guys is interesting mix because. First of all, you are you in the Imraan are very different. And then he threw a rug boy. What I mean, they comes across like immediately. But then rug boys also kind of the the man in the middle who gets kinda playoff both. And you don't agree with each other on everything which was was a big deciding factor for me is I like to hear that his sending points of view, not just people like jerkin each other off for an hour. But yeah. In one of the main things would be told us Imran early on is like it's kinda like listening to young me. The time argue with old me Olea certain things in because I was very much more. So in your kind of realm of I don't know the attitude, I guess chilled out a little bit by old age. But it was funny. But it was a funny funny progression with your show. And then even like, the sound clips, the sound quality is good, the intros awesome. And then there's the after these messages will be back in those little fills that actually were you know, part of the cartoons that I watched as a child L. No kidding. That should hooked me. Like right away. I was like, okay. I mean, so so right from I think. When I when I picked it up, but it was like show like eighteen or seventy you're you're deep and then around that time, I started also kind of hit it up some of the people from the various podcasts on Twitter and commenting on some of this stuff. They were posting just trying to see if I could get on about guests. The only ones that responded. Well, that will Imran actually before I even had a chance that he goes by tweet something about something that he said, but I hadn't hit him up yet. And he actually asked me if I wanted to be. Yeah. We interacted a few times back and forth. And then it's when he was always wanted to do a sign of superhero show. Do you wanna come on as I've been jonesing to his side? Waiting all my life. Are you talking about? So. Yeah, I think I think you said it in a good way. I'm one of the first episodes where you're like, it's like you guys were at a dance on the opposite side of the wall. Looking each other being like he wanted. It was very much. I think like that. And yeah. So after I came on the first time. Fun rewards. It's interactive. And it's, you know, not not scripted in. Yeah. Interesting. I listen to I appreciate that. And now, you're on this show, which has none of those qualities. So that's good. You can make to this show. I'm curious to see if anybody listen to me. Will talk this nonsense for this long. But they would definitely will listen to you. There's some pretty good feedback on the show the whole concept of this one was the I think I've explained maybe a few times. But I'll explain it again because I like to talk. The whole concept of this is to get interesting people on that. I just wanna talk to learn from and have a conversation with average. You're not supposed to be interview format. You know, you've been asking me questions that's fine at I'm finding a Jack my opinion or what I think on things as well. But instead of being kind of limited to the comic book John Russia and having to okay, let's talk about this for two minutes. Okay. Let's talk about this for two minutes. This is more of a relaxed format where I can just hang out and talk to somebody and just learn which is hopefully the audience is getting that vibe to and they're liking it because every time it's going to be someone different. And this is by far. This is the seventh episode. This is by far the most different out of all seven in terms of the content. I don't think anyone prior to this has ever really talked about polar bears and the innuendo and the contaminants out. They're so awesome. I like it. I'm glad to something different men. I said I I've been departure of the world the most people don't get to see. Instead, it's important to me in a number of ways, the tryin bring attention to that. But also to. Yeah. The work that we do in wise important, and how cold is it up in the Arctic when you were up there. So I'm gonna have to pull out my machine because you're going to say it in celsius, which means off the. I I can't Americans Fahrenheit is really the only way to go. Yeah. The only. The only ones just like the Jews and shit. It doesn't make any sense. But all your all your scientists do things in meters in by the way. Okay. Well, then they're not fucking real Americans. Get them out of here. So yeah. So normally I would go to resolute in June. So it would be anywhere the coldest points in the early morning like binder twenty two. Yeah. Yeah. To like, even plus tenants points like during the day of the sons, right above you. And it's like shining down and those are the best days ever because it's clear you're on the ice. You have some nets in your hand. You're you're doing some like physical work, and it's just gorgeous said ten cells that's not bad, but then agrees fair night. But then the thing in the Arctic is like, the temperature shifts and the conditions change like instantly. So you can be in the middle of a sunny day like doing some plankton sampling hall, and it's and agree celsius. And then suddenly the wind kicks up, and it flips the minus ten and there's a storm coming in freezing rain on you in the near fought because you have to get between there and the town which is a hundred kilometers away. You know, so over remember over vice in like and whatnot. So with the worst the worst condition than I ever was in cold wise was in Joe haven that went out of three days. You'll hunt Chem. So I was with a family that was out for traditional sealants. There was no guns involves only harpooning. Is the very patient game to play. But we yeah, we were out on a land in the in this little guy. So I was one of the little brothers in this family, and we got lost. So we separated from the rest of the family, and yet we were like two hundred and fifty kilometers away from any town and we lost everybody else. And he was don't worry. Just go this way. I'm sure we're on the right track. Oh my God. And of course, he knows where he's going. He's an idiot. So we went and eventually we found the family you were you scared at all. I I was but he kept at me on the shoulder though were through over here. Just means okay? And he was he was like fourteen. So I had to believe the kid. He was he knew what he was doing. He's home than it's it's gotta be alright he's only fourteen and he's super calm. Exactly. Exactly. And anyway, we get to the family, and then were like we need to set up tents now, and they just break these settlers ten in the middle of the ocean. Essentially. And the weather kicked up and then the next morning. It was forget what the the celsius temperature was like minus thirty eight. The wind chill the wind chill was like, I don't even know it was like minus fifty or something like that. So any exposed skin or any wet negative thirty six to the Americans anything anything that was exposing will freeze in leg. You're you're done in like my boots actually were only insulated down to like minus forty one of them cracked a water leaking into my boot. Luckily, they had more gear for me God. And I felt like an idiot is like, you know, I didn't bring the year that actually wouldn't freeze. That trip actually to. I also actually that was the only time I fell through the ice. And the decent chance. I could have actually died. But the same kid, so when you're walking along the ice flow, and especially if there's snow usually you have a poll, so they use their harpoons often prod at the snow in front of them, right? Like they poke down until they hit solid ice. And then it was. So I was following this kid Ambrose in. He was following his father who was like twenty meters ahead of him. We were walking walking walking in suddenly what he was. Well, he on with their and I felt like straight down. God and into what into the water? So I felt my lower-half like submerged I stuck by arms out as they train you to do like, a panic method. And you have these little picks around your neck like, they're basically like two inch long sticks. That are like, you know, again picks that you can like us to pull yourself out of the ice. But it doesn't work snow in funny is the snow flattens. Right. So I was trying to pull myself out in the snow, but the snow kept pushing into the whole. And I was yelling. But the wind was blowing against me God. So the kid that was in front of me didn't notice until until he was like, I don't know ten meters. Twenty meters down the road. So like thirty feet away forty feet away. And in this time my legs are in the water. And I'm starting to fucking panic now because he doesn't see me in his father doesn't see me and they're walking in the opposite direction. Anyway, eventually heard me, and as he heard me, I kind of managed to get purchase in the snow, and I pulled myself out then him and his dad came and grabbed me I was in shock because I don't really remember much, but they got the tent up. And then they got the. Coleman stove like a little propane burning stove on and had me sitting by they had me strip out of my clothes like instantly, obviously, and they were drying those. But before I do what how they had already had be by little stove. And I was warm, and I was okay. They're they're prepared for that. Crazy. It was literally fucking five minutes. I would say max between when they realized they pulled me out of the water drop me on the snow. Had this makeshift tent up. Put the stove inside of it had me warming by it. And everything was okay. In that moment, when this happens, are you I kiss my ask a by. Yeah. I was going. I was that's gotta be a moment where you're going. I might go this hit well, especially when I went through. And then I started trying to grab the snow and pull in the snow came into the whole God. 'cause I was like that's the moment where I breakdown right there. I'm on this is this is. Yeah. Might be. I think you'd be surprised you're you're you're self preservation instinct can also kicks into. So you're like I was in panic, but I was also like still fighting. At some point. Fucking freak out like whatever. Right. And we looked at the whole afterwards. I have to say, I don't think it was my Arctic survival techniques that save me. I think it was the fact that the fucking hole was too small for me to go all the way through. Where you do you wear nation sued. I was well, I'm gonna make a a fashion question where you wearing your Canada goose jacket or you about the. If you want to not get ripped off in the north don't ever wear, I used jagged, they will all they will take you for every dollar. You have if they see you wearing one of those things. I mean down here, they're very fashion statement. And they they're also very fashionable up here in and Trudeau like over government officials wear them when they're in the north. There are quite warm. Let me I'll give them that. They are. They're warm also down here, there's been a string of if you see people people are where people wearing them and getting robbed for the goose. Chicago. Oh, yeah. See that. Expensive, fucking jackets. They're like, I think like seven or eight hundred bucks minimum. Yes. I think they're nice jackets. I would. Personally, better functional jackets less. Well, I don't know that are that are available to people. But I if I continue to work in the Arctic, which I hope to do I want to get a handmade Barker for me from a personal community that I've known and they will use like eider, duck feathers, and and seal fur and whatnot stuff. It like I've I've been given some of the park as they were quite warm. They come down to like your mid thigh or your mid calf even. It's not we don't we don't know how to make stuff. Those things are it's amazing. The quality of the the items they make up there. The guy I have a an order in or seal skin mittens. Which might get me like egg down here because of animal rights activists. But you know, they they take the seal for turned inside out. And so that the outside is the leather in the inside is the for and there the the ring around the wrist is a Wolford and there there's some of the best mittens in the best. Like, the best feeling things you've ever had in your hands. We I. I think the. The the candidates jacket is a bit of a target. But it's also, you know, it's it's also practical and functional item. It's functional. It is also a statement of I got some money. Exactly. And that's that's what the when a when a handful of five government officials comes up there. And they're all wearing jackets. Cost seventy five hundred dollars between them it's not really perceived that well for people that are struggling to. For water. That's a good point. When you call Titians Iraq in expensive shit and very struggling to survive over here. I probably wouldn't take too kindly to that either. However, again, like some of the people in the higher end of any with boards and things like that are also quite well off. So you gotta be. It's in terms of the where people are getting outrage. But. In a lot of cases. I think the folks are very much justified at their age for life and stuff. They see. Yeah. I would say they might be a little they might be a little tight entitled to their outrage about that. Yeah. I think that's a good good way to put it on. Oh, I was gonna say speaking outraged as it piss you off when you see the science and movies, and you go that's not fucking right at all. Or do you can you choose to ignore it? It depends on the context of the movie in the in the in the show, for example, like CSI that TV show bothers me to no end because they they pipette something out of like a body. They'll take the fluid out of a body and then injected into the machine that I use and it spits. Oh, very clearly burglary from this parking lot in this place. No god. But but in terms of in terms of the the superhero science and stuff, I don't get to bend other shape about it. Now there I mean there are things like the the dark Knight. Under where Bruce Wayne fired the bullet into the wall. And then piece the other fingerprint off a fragment from fragments a bullet fragmented in a completely different way than the one that fragmented the first time. That kind of stuff is like you didn't need to extend that far. He could have found a much creative way. It was that was so absurd. There was the one seamer or they were basically going. Okay. Let's show how Bruce Wayne's detective. And they decided take a fingerprint off a fragmented bullet that he doesn't he doesn't. He doesn't have it could never be recreated. The way that that bullet broke would never have contain. You couldn't do it. You could get the same exact piece of cement anyone and have in the same way. I think he fired three or four times, right? Billion three three or four times and took the average of how it would have happened. I think or some shit if he if he had fired at once then run it through computer simulation that ran like a billion. Yes, simulators, I would have been like okay done. Maybe that works. Anyway, computer, doing the science isn't as cool as him doing the science. I mean, that's my my greatest over this new Batman movie is it'll be more detective focused, right legates. Where'd you come in the the whole the Batman world? Are you like a Batman shook acidy about men should be a detective? So I'm a big huge Batman guy. My view on Batman is. I like to see him adapt to what is right for the story. But my favorite itineray Sion's of Batman are the is Batman existing in a universe where superheroes exist in figuring out. Okay. What is his role in this universe? And how does he still make it? That's that. For me is always the most interesting Batman, then when he's challenged morally, those are the two things. So I don't really have a stand on if you should be a detective or I should just kick ass. I just wanna see his importance in the world and his values being challenged enough. No, that's that's one of the most interesting things about them to the. The kingdom come kind of asked by Dr where he is the guy has the formulas that could put everybody down, right? If he needed to. It's an interesting thing. Throwing you know with a guy you have a character like superman who is a God and wonder woman to God and flashes, the fastest person on the earth. Green lantern conjure anything in a what is the role of Batman in that in that dynamic? And I think that that's interesting for me is for his place. Well, I mean to me he always functions as a great point of view character, obviously, which they always use them as the Justice league and things, but yeah, no for sure it's that. And he often says it in his head or or outwards being like, I am the only normal or like average person has makes. What do I bring obviously brings the fact that he is the technician in which is why Justice league the movie was such a fucking joke again to terrible all Aflac did in that movie was invent cool stuff and then destroy it. Immediately. Bringing the other thing that he's like what power was he's rich as he says in the movie, exactly. And that's not a good joke. The expect that to be the puck in premise. That was the whole thing was rough. What did you see the like that? Was that you I did post but also Snyder's been dropping like tons of information about what he wanted what I want. I read that whole thing. You know, I would have liked to seen it just because I wanted to see how shitty vision would have played out at least it would have been his vision. I probably would not would not have liked it. Because as you mentioned in the post on our jockey nerd nation page. He doesn't seem to really understand the characters all that. Well, or seem to wanna care about the character. He kinda just wants to create some cool shit around this around the characters. Yeah. Using their conic moments. But in the wrong ways, right right early the wrong with that Batman superman fight in Batman v. Superman was like, you know, visually in some cases like scene for foreseen. But the whole essence of it was wrong. You know what? I mean. It didn't. Yeah. Didn't land in the right way. Because you didn't have. Twenty years of history between the characters the no this first time, you're seeing them onscreen together. And it was already you're already playing up a book the dark Knight returns, which was a deconstruction book about these characters with like you mentioned where they've been around for years upon years on us on years and are already had their differences in the already like we're going out at some point and had. Instead you have him. Batman showed up. Clearly, if he was smart as he's supposed to be would have recognized very quickly that he was in the wrong. Romney was being used and set up. We have by lex Luther who's right? You know do bag who clearly is trying to manipulate everybody. Everything about it. It just it was bad. Yeah. I don't know it, but such good actors good people in the roles and everything else is just pisses me off that they had all the ingredients for good movie. Just you had the wrong guy, directing it a pri- the wrong writers, and you just had the wrong. Backing in terms of what DC was looking to do. And. They really had no vision. And the again the clearly hired a guy that was their own choice. At least for those characters of you wanted to put Zach Snyder in a movie where the characters aren't Batman and superman and all these things, and maybe that would have worked out. But when you those characters in there, there's just too much baggage with those characters to kind of fuck with with who they are like that. Yeah. They should have bought again another superhero property from whoever. And and you know, bastardize that, but it's hard to do with superman and Batman, and again, like whatever. But even man of steel was listening, not a man of steel guy. Either. See I enjoyed that movie. I was only because I liked Henry Cavill as he was the best part. I don't hit that movie. Like, I hate Bambi superman. And and I think Justice league's not that great man is still I'm just not a fan. But I don't think it's a bad movie. But the thing that really kills me is the judge again deaths in whereas the tornado. That's terrible. Yeah. Where he goes back to the Doug. It's like, you're the super son could go to the car and back, and nobody would even notice right? Why why would that happen? And then and then when he does hold up his hand. He's like, no don't save me superman show your pockets. Any back before anybody even noticed the whole fucking point. What is the? Again, it's a fundamental weird. They needed that plot point. Yeah. That that plot point really didn't stick with me of why he kept having to hide him understand. They were trying to go for will, though if the world finds out you'll you know, you might be treated or seen a certain way, people might judge you or this alien invasion is happening. But I don't know. I feel like superman character he's to his characters to goodhearted not to save somebody exactly especially on fucking parents who the way they did it in the original and Christopher Reeves men movie where he. Is in a different party. Here's his father have a heart attack in the barn. And he just can't get there in time. Right. That even he has his limits that is impactful in like that kid. I forget what his name is the plagues that movie. I still can listen to CNN lease wasn't fast enough. I couldn't do it. You know? And that has feeling like men watching his dad hold up. His and be like also sucked up by tornado like that doesn't. That was a rough caricatures right there twister. That's strange real strange anyway. But I I don't know what are you in the future? What do you think? Do you do you want them to reinvent the men character? And like in the new DC thing that they're trying to do or do you want? I keep gavel and try and make him right? I wouldn't mind them keeping Cavill I feel like he's gotten a raw deal in this whole thing. I do actually think that he was a good choice. I think he can play. I think he can play the superman that me, and you are kind of urine for which is the the upstanding goodhearted character that is unwavering in his beliefs, but is also genuinely just a good person similar to captain America. That'd be the perfect and Chris Evans should just superman as well. I would have that. So I think a Henry could be that guy. I'd like to see another movie where Henry Cavill is feel like DC at this point, though is trying to detach itself from anything that Snyder did or any of those movies other than wonder woman that came out prior to was a albumin. Yeah. So I feel like they're just making movies now and make movies, and they're not really worried about connecting them or anything. So I think they're they've I'm pretty sure it's already come out that they've kind of divorce themselves from Henry Ville, it's kind of unfortunate. I wish I wish he'd get another shot. This man he was in Justice league by the end of it. I think was a decent itin ration- little scene with flash when they're saying like again is little interactions with people once he was superman again, right? Yeah. That was perfect the best that scene in the that. I remember saying this in review, but when he comes to help the Justice league at the end, the first thing he says is how can. Help. And that's superman in nutshell. There's he just come in to help you out like he's not there's no alterior motive, he's genuinely just wants to do the right thing in that moment. Yeah. He's not going to take control or like, be them master. He just wants to do what he can do the best thing. Yeah. For sure my my other favorite. I think my only favorite part of that movie is where he's in the midst of funding the rest of the Justice league in in the flash tries to get behind him. At that moment where like he's in the speed force and like superman can see him. That was amazing. When he glances over at flash in slow motion flashes reaction, they cut like what the fuck and also the look and Henry face at that point. You actually believe maybe he'll just like throttle that. Yeah. It was that was a great moment was just lost in a sea of bullshit lost as Frankenstein movie known as justly. I mean that was just what I really I really hope for good things going forward. But yeah, I mean, you guys had interesting in differential perspectives on alkyl men. Yeah. I thought it was fun. But yeah, it was weird. So we certainly thought it was fun. I also thought the script was a complete mess. But I guess that's better than it's it provided me more of a better a better reaction than had to Batman versus superman. If that counts, I think right after men I was actually quite positive and then afterwards like with a little digestion second viewing as. Analysis that moved that script is is kind of strange that a lot of weird choices in there. But it's interesting interesting looking movie with some. Definitely embraces the comic book origins that it's come from. So I think that was that was a cool aspect of it didn't shy away from any non weirdness and the bullshit. Like, he he literally wrote a seahorse to the finale. Sea, horses, and sharks and giant crabs. And you see the unicorn seahorses the the undersea creatures roaring fucking really bothered me though, that's physically impossible impossible. Yeah. When the great white sharks. Our or. Come on. This isn't scientifically correct? But again what I stopped in thought about the rest of it. I was like, what am I really? Yeah. Arguing. You can't the scientists are gonna add up at any point. And also memo brought in the the the lady vote for that movie quite heavily Jesus. Any my mother is fifty five years old and couldn't shut up them over Christmas. Here. I think that was that was definitely the intent to bring in memo's, the the female fans would be would he happy with how he looks with his shirt off. There's been no shortage of pretty the male fans. Yeah. There's been no shores are pretty Boise with he's not necessarily know. He's more. He's more the they may. Yeah. He seems like dude I would love to party with Jesus is a memo or meant while both. Are they won in the same at this point? Maybe but they see pretty much the same character. Yeah. Right. He's just playing himself, which is a great place to be as an actor. I guess, but it is it is. Well, I think we've. Board enough people to this point. So. Keep talking comics forever, but keep talking comics. But we I'd be happy to have you on again. And especially you know, if you have any more findings that are worth talking about we can do that. Or we can just nerd out about comics and movies and shit too. I am happy. There's more the two yadda Morris than just being a scientist. So yeah, I know we haven't even delved into the raving years and the the electric music scene and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I was I was there at the cusp of the electron of music scene in Toronto in the early nineties. So oh, man, you're that's that's g satis. It is way when we switched over from acid like acid jazz like that until like jungle in house, it was whole, no. Whole no that'll have to come at another time. When you rejoin the show because. This isn't a one time thing, I've I've told all my guests, this this is Avery occurring thing that you can be on as many times as all allow. As the as the society, demand, I suppose. Yeah. Yes. Is there anything you want to to plug before you jump on here or no I for the nation members? Switching my Twitter account over from two at at rock underscore king for geek related science stuff. So you go follow me there and otherwise. Yeah. I'll be on the jock under nation page anytime jock kinder- nation page. Hopefully whenever we have a science topic on the Jackie nerd show. You'll probably join us for that. Or if there's anything you want to join for that. I'm sure we'll Imraan I'll be happy to have you on with us. I know I would be in. Yeah. We'll catch you there on the nation or add rock underscore king on Twitter, and any other scientific findings that ever get published by the Canadian government government might have your work in it too. Right. Yeah. Absolutely. Sure. There you go. All right, guys.

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The National Football League held their Big Game San Francisco Forty niners loss to the Kansas City chiefs yesterday producer dom still pulling himself together dumb. Are you okay. Eventually I will be Mike Thank you eventually. Maybe I know you just came off of a producing It'll fiddle show spoke a lot about the super bowl has been Somewhat tortuous for you not listening to rick obviously but having to sit there. And just uh you're just relive everything from yesterday. Held the lead lost the lead as Atlanta Falcons Fan. I understand when it comes to Kyle Shanahan that this maybe maybe becoming a thing for him but you have a bright future ahead of you with lots of young guys in lots of cap space right now so things are still looking good for you. But what are your thoughts last last night. Out of the the game and And how are you actually feeling today because it does suck obviously everybody. We joke about sports but we try to find our release in sports and like many of us try to find it in professional wrestling. So the the kick in the gut if not lore when something like yesterday happens is always painful. Yes there's a few things I'm I'm GonNa take away from that The first is I did a great job of avoiding everything. I didn't watch sports center. I didn't watch. ESPN didn't watch Fox. Sports I watched my local news for the weather and everything this morning but then I watch something on my DVR. So I did a great job avoiding it and then in and it sat on my on the on the subway on the way here Mike. That's right I work at a sports radio network. I'm going to be exposed to it whether I want to or or not. So that part stunk. The game itself it not fun was not entered. I don't know I'll L. ask you for for afterwards. Mike removing myself as a fan of one of the teams involved. It strikes me as a game that wasn't super entertaining. You can respond afterwards Intrigue me a super entertaining not as bad as last year's that was bad and then in terms of getting over it. It's it's GonNa take a little bit Mike Baseball team. The giants are horrible. Everybody's talking baseball seasons right around the corner pitchers and catchers report a giants fan fest. This is on Saturday. I'm like I really don't care because they're going to be so so bad. They won seventy five games or so. Oh last year. There's no way they match that this year. They're going to be terrible. This is this is not a silver lining. I understand people trying to help. Oh Hey dumb baseball all seasons right around the corner but I'm spoiled. I'm spoiled. I will admit them spoiled. Got The three titles. The warriors have been fantastic but the warriors are trash right now. I'm not a hockey fan. I'm like I really don't have anything sports going on the worst thing I have going on radically enough. Is that one of my all time. Favorite wrestlers edges back. That's what I've got going on for me right now. Mike See. That's sad when you of your sports is going to be wrapped around the road wrestlemainia. You don't have an accent. I thought I thought the bay area had XFL NFL team. You can sink your teeth into we had one. Originally we had to San Francisco Demons we do not have one in this iteration of the XFL. So is the closest team is it. They have one in. La can't even remember now. No the Seattle Ryan's are I have not the slightest idea there used to be an LA team again back into the original iteration. I believe he was the L. A.. Express la renegades suddenly be La Express the assessments renegades. Then I think that's where that would Tommy Maddox ex- yeah exactly are maybe it might have been something stupid like that. Ono was LAX LA extreme. Something it's something stupid like bad it's the XFL. What do you expect? Maybe it was one of those before and after his it was the L. A.. XFL No but Yeah I don't I don't no no I'm pretty sure California actually doesn't have team this. Go around the rams and the Patriots last year. It was a defensive football. As far as technical Nicole goes it was technically. It was a great football game but you know. Obviously there's God knows how many people have a billion people whatever watching around the world. The last thing they care about for sports they barely ever watch is to see a defensive technical classic so I don't think anybody who's looking for that last night and at least you know even though we got a relatively pedestrian industry and game at portions of it and it was a lot of defensive chess going on in quarterbacks being stopped by good defenses stepping up we did. At least I get a story at the end with the comeback of the chiefs. Which of course is an extra kick in the crotch for you and forever? They called into this show and made fun of me. After the Atlanta Falcons Blue Twenty five point lead to the Patriots. Obviously not going your direction but as the momentum started to turn I mean did you. Did you feel it coming. Did you feel that the San Francisco could actually hold on here in hold Kansas City off. Come up with something or did you start feeling this thing. Slipping away the same thing I you know. Basically as for the I felt when he came to to Kyle Shanahan and and and he came to a everybody in in Atlanta with Dan Quinn when he came to the Patriots game that SORTA slip out of their hands. All right so whether it was seven minutes left the niners just gotten the second turnover interception against mahomes. They were up ten. I was feeling really good and I just went to my text messages. I don't remember exactly when in the game. This was but it was at some point between at that moment where I thought the niners had a really good chance of winning with seven minutes left. And some point maybe after the first touchdown to make it a three point game or whatever Ed something in that time period I texted my friend and this was at six forty two Pacific. I don't like this so there. That's how much faith veith. And this is the thing that I think. A lot of the niner fans have forgotten about a lot of them were like. Oh the defense was so bad. They were terrible at the end. They let Homes do it and I'm like I think you have forgotten literally how the entire niners teams have operated over the last fifteen twenty years most of my life. They've been bad nets. Just that's just a fact. I was three when they won the Super Bowl. And then we've had a couple. You know the Jeff Garcia Kotaro Terrell Owens and then you had capper knicks boom and then you got now but it doesn't that the offense has been so bad that the the defense is gassed because they're always on the field and as exactly what happened in the fourth quarter in a high emotion game a lot of these guys operating on Adrenaline Win eventually that adrenaline is going to start becoming a negative. And it's going to tire out a little bit and then the offense but back to back like four play possessions and it's like there's no way the defense can handle having play Patrick mahomes in the cheese. This is at the end of a long season. I don't care that you had a bye week last week. It's the end of a long season. You've had a long game. It's it's not like you did a great job but it's not like the chiefs are easy to defend. I'm sure tons sons of those guys were chasing tyreek Hill and Meco Hardman and Sammy Watkins. On routes. That didn't amount to anything. The defensive line was a little banged up. They were going all out. It just ran out of gas and it was. It was definitely frustrating to see that both that happen and then also I don't WanNa put too much blame on Shanahan but man put your foot on somebody's throat for once man and just push please. I know it's a little violent but come on man pedal to the metal. Just everybody's like Oh. He's learned he's learned. He's learned he has has not learned because it was three years ago and he did the same thing. Yeah he's going to have to live with that one and Dhamma. I thank you very very much I might call on you again here in a minute because I am interested in hearing your thoughts actually since you did bring up edge and Randy Orton. It's one of the things we have announced for Rawdon night a a little bit of an update on their situation which I will tell everybody about after the break but I thank you for coming on indulging me a little bit here. 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USA Say we get this one out of the way now hymie is on the phone line hymie. How are you might I just recently only started watching wrestling on the network like started from the first step so the earliest episode they have on there in eighty one and I gotta say it was like a lot of stuff stuff that if AB eight aws book didn't like we wouldn't here in the last from Brian last in Gym Cornet like they've bugged Inter gender tag matches with it grown men and I don't WanNA use the the I don't want to say midgets but little people as literal tag team partners and we'll see like a bunch of wacky wrecking gimmicks like like a fad timeout. Let me stop you right there. Do you have any. I guess the breadth of knowledge of history three. You know when it comes to the women wrestling in midget wrestling across the country. They were used as specialty items. No matter where it was whether it be in New York or Los Angeles or Dallas US wherever and oftentimes they were mixed together to be matches and that wasn't just ended south. That was all over the country. That was a regular thing when it came to wrestling. Oh definitely but I'm just saying like you know how bill watches religion to like guys like Dave Meltzer in Jim Cornet Ornette and Bryant last and those like make Jim Cornet and Brian last. Oh they argued that Awro in high me. I'm going to go ahead and let you go. And here's why if you want to argue with Bryan last in Gym Cornet then right into Jim Cornet into Brian. Last and one of the eighty eighty eight shows the Brian. Last does like you know to do it. Here doesn't really make any sense and you talk about the religion. That was passed on by bill. Watts it wasn't a religion. Pass Tom by bill watts. It was a learning tree thing about some of the knowledge that he has about things that actually worked and things that he learned from. Eddie Graham and things that Eddie Graham Ram had picked up along the way and there's a whole tree of knowledge that exists whether you like the people or their politics or how they were as real human beings as we know I know Eddie Graham was a terrible human being Roy Shire was a terrible human being. There's probably older fans out there. Listening in San Francisco Right now in the Moi these sports byline that have their their memories that go back to Roy. Shire running that promotion. He wasn't a nice person one of the reasons he got kicked off his. TV was because he was like chewing tobacco and spitting it on rug the Nice TV studio. That's one of the things that got him. Sunk off of that station as well as many other things too but like that was one because he just couldn't help himself from being being a prick. Now that prick ended up. Having some incredible wrestling knowledge passed down finishes that we see to this day passed on knowledge about how to do things and how at a tell stories that we see to this day. Whether it be Eddie Graham Bill Watts or any of these people yes. They weren't the best people in the world but they had a lot of knowledge to give. And that's we've got passed down and that's the religion that you talk about you know it's the good things everybody does bad things. There's things you can point to in every promotion at any time almost ever and point out. How ridiculous elicit is like? You can continue to harp on that and beat it to death. You know all that you want but the reality of the situation is that that's what it is so if you have an ax ax to grind with something you saw you know out of context in isolation midsouth. TV and you want to ask him about it asked him about it so Rochon tonight transition to that by the way if you can do better than that one. Eight hundred eight seven eight one. Eight hundred eight seven eight seven five two nine get a hold of me on twitter. Twitter's well at separate Vivey that wwe stock as we stand right now. Down five percent forty-six sixty two Monday night raw tonight. They won't be talking about that. Not sure what they're going to be talking about. The only thing that they have announced so far is some fallout. From last week's edge and Randy Orton angle go to the wrestling observer. Dot Com website. WWe has announced that Orton will address his actions from last Monday night on raw last week. So Oh close with order taking edge and hitting a CON CHARITO to his head. I just love seeing how that was written out there concerto concerto to. I don't know oh but that we need A. Is there an on bud. Zeman here the need the Wade Keller style guide to tell us about how to spell properly concerto in his at capitalized. I know it's not all caps as if it was wrestling. In Japan though. WWE also issued a storyline update on his condition after the attack angle. It said. Is that a quote family. Spokesperson has confirmed that edge is now. Home has begun the recovery process and is waiting for the results of battery of tests. WWe noted that edge will update his condition early next week at families spokesperson. It was probably Was was probably Beth Phoenix on annex. T in which I think pretty much exact same thing I think last time she was on there after returning to the ring the royal rumble edge. Cut a promo in the main event segment of last tweaks were all. He was interrupted by Orton who proposed. Reuniting they're rated R. K. O.. Team before edge to give an answer. Orton laid him out with an Arcadio or then hit edge with a steel chair and wrap his head around it or went up to the Middle Rope and looked conflicted and seem to have decided against continuing the attack. But then got two chairs and gave Edgy. Concerto Edge had eliminated or in the men's royal rumble match the previous night. The story was edge and Orton. Were working together but edge. Ordinance was about to turn against him edge versus ordinance planned for Wrestlemainia thirty six. Tonight's raw taking place at the Vivian. Smart Home Arena and Salt Lake City. Utah the city is dealing with a significant snowstorm but the arena wrote. That raw is planned to go on as scheduled. I am sure we are going to have people taking pictures. And and Of of the crowd before they get in half empty buildings in going. This is raw. The same way people do that with raw and smackdown he w h and everything else. We're going this crowd. Take a picture of cited starved off. Somebody will be doing that tonight. Dom I'm GonNA actually drag you back in here real quick just because you mentioned in the opening segment and you happen to be our guy on the street that we go to. For the average average fan the most lapsed average fans you are coming from a different generation of fandom one where there was a minimal stars but there was John on CNN edge. Randy Orton a handful of other people at the time edge obviously had to retire due his neck injury. The spinal stenosis a miracle recovery a miracle miracle of modern medicine. A marvel him coming back here. Now to face off against Randy Orton WRESTLEMAINIA. It is a massive matchup. We talked about it a little bit last week. Go for a lot of people. It's trying to get the old feels back. That's what they're going for with their lack of stars bringing edge back. You instantly have a a callback to a different time A.. And frankly at that time. He and Randy Orton always put on great performances. So they're trying to kind of like you know. Shake the ghosts and wake up and and get the echoes of time once was. Did it pay off on Monday night. It's seemed to inside the arena. We'll ratings hash this out as we move along. People people have that kind of interest. We'll have to see. But as elapsed fan who they're probably aiming at with stuff like this and and at least are hoping get woken up with stuff like this. What what did you think about it and is it something that makes you keep an extra eye on the proceedings for for? WWe As we lead in Wrestlemainia first off. Thank you for the names that you said Grew up with because that makes me feel really young I actually was you know nine ten years old during the attitude era so actually Mike. It wasn't wasn't the John did for me. It was you know Austin the rock the hardy's edge Christian and then even later on a little bit you know Batista's has mysterious. I headed good man. Second off yeah. They got me admittedly I would. I would record it every week just to fiddle my way through it fast forward on the DVR see if anything caught my eye. Whatever and then I went because I because I know the wwe network is going to offer for me a free month? Whenever basically I wanted I went and got a free month so I can watch the royal rumble got really excited? That edge was there and then wouldn't you know it. Sorry let me take it back a little bit a few months ago I stopped recording it because I just didn't care anymore but wouldn't you know it last Monday after royal rumble. They got me to record it again. Fast forward through the whole thing. It's not like they. They got me to watch the whole thing. But I watched the entire closing segment with edge and Orton and I. I'm I'm one of the fans that my favorite part of being at a live event isn't necessarily the actual wrestling. What what I love about? It is the music just. There's something about when somebody a wrestler that you love their music hits. The video starts playing you. You know there's fog or Pyro or what God. You are a child of generation and all about the pop for the intro. Yes I am. An edge to me at least has is one of my favorite theme songs that there is so hearing his music. Royal Rumble was awesome. I love that he's back back. I'm GONNA follow this again not wholeheartedly. I'm still going to be fast. Forwarding through most of it probably but at least they have me paying attention in in some regards and I may try to finagle my way into the other trial come mania. You know you're going to do that. I totally know better price than free going to they're going to be offering them left and right especially for people who are lapsed out there from getting the network I am guaranteed that. I'm sure I still wonder if they're going to even mention inching the network number coming up this Thursday. I seem to recall from the last time that they had one of these conference calls it the way they were. 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You're listening to wrestling observer for life with Bryan Alvarez and Mike Zimmer v on the sports byline broadcasting network except for maybe back on the show with your alive type stuff to get into the weekend arrest people on the phone lines to try to get a little bit later on this news though. Hyped it up earlier on Joey Gino's Oh spring break Jelly Natella. Guess for a for Hymie out there with his axe next to grind so he knows spring rate for release the trailer during the Super Bowl halftime show revealing the minore. Sukey will face off against Orange Cassidy. Video announcement was an animation featuring both men preparing for duel and also highlighting their contrasting styles. It would be technically a battled between a new Japan Regular and somebody. WHO's under contract to eighty it? W It had already been announced. Previously the minority Suzuki would be a part of Wrestlemainia weekend festivities. He assigned to face Chris Dickinson at Josh Burnett's blood sport three on April second both bloodsport and spring break or being held under the game changer. Wrestling's that collective banner of events. The Great Mood Alex Shelley and we'll Osprey spray have been announced for the event which will take place Friday April third of the Cuban Club in Ebor City of Florida. Josh Barnett's blood sport. Worked three also has killer Kelly and added to the Thursday April second event from Portugal based in Germany she is currently remember the annex t UK roster but she is not exclusive to them. She's a regular and W X W she tweeted out a couple of weeks ago. She was looking to get booked more on her non-annex days so she's filling up a wrestlemainia schedule. She's only Russell twice. Since December once in December once in January and that was a dark match and eve and she's had eighteen matches for the wwe since two thousand and one thousand nine five have been at may young tapings. I believe she's Owen. Three the young five over matches have also been dark matches Not used a lot not used as match as you now. Some people thought she was going to. She's going to be obviously on the weekend. Which Jon Moxley against Josh Barnett? That was supposed to be on on the second bloodsport show. MOXIE got injured was off of that. They're going to do that this year. Minoru Suzuki Against Chris Dickinson Davey Boy Smith. Junior and Jeff. COBB also announced announced on the show blood sport is the the hybrid shoot style. Show originally with Matt Rentals name on it and then he got signed by wwe. So Josh Barnett picked up the torch it was a pretty good one Pretty obvious one for him to pick up as it moved along. The only way to win is a a knockout or submission. It is amazing. I don't like for those people who have been listening for years and years To The big audio nightmare partner Adam Summers from Chicago loved loved going to I w midsouth shows I was never a fan of death match. Wrestling never was fan of it. Another thing that Adam absolutely adored shoot style wrestling. I always appreciate STU shoot style. Nobuhiko Takada is one of my favorite wrestlers. I think that Josh Barnett. Even though INOKI ISM made my stomach twist I thought he should have been utilized more new Japan while he was there at his peak and was rolling along. I thought he was great. I I think he or she tomorrow. Might be the best prowrestler in some ways that I've ever seen in my entire life he can make real things look fake fake things. Things look real to a level that is just beyond a lot of people will say Volkan. I can appreciate it. I just don't necessarily really like to see it. It's not my bag. I don't really hate either one but I can say that it's Kinda funny that I would kind of recoil from death match stuff but it can also sit here and tell you unequivocally the best promotion and the promotion gives their fans more and and then what they want in anybody. Anybody else's game changer wrestling the success of that. They're going to have with these collective shows this year. I think the for the culture one I think is going to be very very notable for a lot of people I think the blood sport show at this point the Joey Genova spring break show speak for themselves. They are incredible the loss in New York. Show that Annella you know is basically with his name on IT I. I'm not a gigantic fan of Joey Giannella as far as having to see him Russell Russell on my TV every week. I don't hate them but a slut like I have any sort of emotional attachment to him whatsoever. But I can say that he shows if you WANNA be entertained you know or a you know a one off I. Maybe you don't need a steady diet of them. But I can say that. His spring break show Wrestlemania Menu. Weekend has been a very welcome addition. You know the ridiculous stuff takes place on it. The names get brought back and get paid as on it. I'm a fan of them. I like those shows again. A steady diet of it now and it's amazing that you know those are probably the two types of shows at author most known for the the wackier type shows and those in those death match style shows and it's still incredible company in Japan right now and again. I don't know the details beyond that but you know the Veon D- another one probably probably those two companies probably give their fans more of what they want than anybody else I know. Aws trying ring honors influx. We Know A. WWE does with their fans transition over Shingo Takagi. Your new never open weight champion. He signed phase Bandido now at the Russell Super Show on April second can last Wednesday announced that the Mark Hitchcock memorial super show April Second Niebler city. Takagi is also going to face Chris Dickinson. There's another now the one for US pancakes POW drivers four event. I love Wrestlemainia weekend. If Not Wrestlemainia for everything else that goes around it and the fact that so many the people can get paid and we can have so many unique one off of match ups like this and by the way. Let me rewind to to spring break a a traditional list. WHO's probably pulling their hair out right now? It's like look there's a time and a place for everything in thirty one flavors and I don't take a steady diet of those shows so every once in a while I'd I'd like something different in that gives it to me. Could I watch that every single week. No would be something that I would want to promote every single week. No Is it enjoyable that a day. Yeah with everything else taking place. Yes because that's part of the thirty one flavors Russell cons twitter feed noted that Shingo against Bandido may be the only now. It's a match that they announced the Super Show Osprey Black Tour Zak safer junior mazing read also confirmed for the event ring of honor had a busy weekend Mardi skirl his seemingly for all of the headache ached at that company had between really march of last year. When who quit to kneel dash would quit? Madison rain quit it. Brody King got hurt. Madhavan didn't get over Kenny King. People recoiled against him winning the rumble. The alert debut that fell flat endzone Gas Gas Burger King hurt again. Just things started to fall apart issues with fans the whole Kelly Klein thing. It just was a mess. Injuries left and right things have been looking a little bit Sunnier. Those smarty scroll resigned brody king has resigned nine. Hopefully he has a less injury. Plagued year seemed like every couple of months or so. He was getting hurt the briscoes every signed. If they were going to go anywhere else Dave donate observer radio man they should have made tried to go somewhere. Where are they going to go? WWE DOESN'T WANT THEM IN A. W I don't you know I great of a fit on paper as they are are they. I don't know Alex Shelley's back to face Ray Horace and Dan Naff on February twenty eighth and twenty ninety nine. That's nice they've also been booking. They're super card of honor. Show taking place wrestlemainia weekend in the best possible way which is loading it up with new Japan talent. They've now announced Jay White Jay white against Maurice Girl. The great slimy. He'll battle. Jake Jake Kenta Fantasma Ish Amaury Romero. Amazing Red will hombre nick oldest announce for that show so far are which also announced bringing back the pure title. Oh and he possibly may get a new roster member out of that deal. As well Anthony Henry leaving evolve hinted on twitter about his interest in the pure title. Not sure if I like this or not. We'll osprey about a month ago. said it was one of his favorite tiles and wrestling says once the rules to be updated with it brought back with updated rules. I don't know if I want updated rules to the pure title when you got guys like Jonathan Gresham right there who aren't over where you need them to be. I mean that that's Zyppah title. That was that was perfect for him. I don't need don't think you need to update the the rules too much. But we'll see the tournament for that looks like it's going to take place March thirteenth and fourteenth as she no that's anniversary weaken the titles are going to be after Wrestlemainia the tenth and eleventh when they're out in Pittsburgh in in in Columbus Ohio on that tour anniversary weekend with the got set it up is the past versus present theme on the thirteenth. They're going to have the anniversary pay per view special on the fourteenth themed named show. We've already announced that show generation next villain enterprises matchup. Although it's a little bit of a loose loose definition of generation next Alex Shelley Matt Side L. Teaming up they were not generation next at the same time. But they're going to be facing off against Mardi. Scroll Flip Gordon. They've also announced today Doug Williams Liam's who already announced for the show face off against Jonathan Gresham just seems to make sense their homicide against brody king. That's probably pretty fun. Allison Danger Nacro. Nacro butchered delirious and Grizzly Redwood also advertised so far jay lethal has issued a challenge to Xavier which is interesting some other stuff to get into. We'll hit the phones. Here we push up against the break. Don't WanNa wait too long here John. I'm in Arkansas Jonah Aria. I am doing great boy. That sounds like a amazing lineup for for that weekend. A- and following Oh boy and the bureau title being brought back hitting buddy of mine Who hasn't always they follow the H.? Just about the pure title after the press. Release it come out. I gotta say this this money. Scroll thing he might be the turnaround that Naro h really needs to get a foothold back into things. And I think he's smart enough to realize now that in today's pro wrestling landscape it's not necessarily about isolationism promotion where it's just us. And nobody else matters the cooperation with other groups and utilizing talents from other groups. And then sending your guys to other groups I think that helps everybody overall that whole territorial mindset of that. I think good thing I had a question for you johnny. Cut You off here. Just because some other people rushing Russian. Thank you very much for the call. sorry I don't want to cut anybody else short. Here's Carlos in Houston Carlos. Hey Mike Just real quick. He touched upon fundus earlier. as far as Rago tonight with the snowstorm Are they gonNA roll on with the show or are they going to do something of a tape eight delay or or or something because there's a apparently according to what I'm reading online there's GonNa be quite a storm tonight. Ah just wondering if you've heard anything on that like other going along with the shows promise so far the arena has announced that they're going to get along with it so much of the Car Carlos you know unless let's go into a state of emergency or something like that keeping people off the roads. They are going ahead with that show. I am sure that they have some some things Plan just in case although it sounds like all the town is there so that is not going to be a concern. Jim In Virginia. GotTa Rushie here Buddy. But how are you. And what's on your mind real quick. I'll auto tell you I really haven't been doing the power. I think. Most underrated wrestling shows that every all about t. the and and giving me and all that Jimmy faded out there but we got the gist of the call. Appreciate you call in hope. Everything is well for you my friend yeah. NWEA power you know. It's like there's so many options out there. If you don't like what's taking place place on a w whatever it is that you don't like there's always something out there few to sink your teeth into and I think a strong our own agent and Nwea Union. I think that is important. And I think a strong evolves important as a AA for wwe and and you know whether alone or whether to develop talent however you you want to look at. It needs to be there. And I need them to be strong. Come on changed this year up Mike Super. VP restaurants are alive. What a fly somewhere looking for cheap flights or cheap tickets then call? That's right. Call the low cost airline travel hotline now now for prices so no. We can't publish them anywhere. 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They offer increased income as possible using strategy suited to your goals and may require buying multiple annuities and holding full-term. You're listening coming to wrestling observer. Live with Bryan Alvarez and Mike Semper Vivey on the sports byline broadcasting network producer dom was reminded minded. This week does not get any better wrestling. Wise will not be going to the show in San Jose Y smackdown comes and that means barren core of is going to pour it on thick about vow. Kansas City his team where he's from winning the Super Bowl over the San Francisco. Forty niners very short on time bomb or call on the line. We gotta get to Moses in San Diego. Thank you for waiting patiently my friend. What's on your mind? I appreciate you Mike. Thanks for making me the real quick Are you hoping we get go. Go to oversee Shingo Takagi for the never built and do you have any update on Coda no update on Kota Right. Now as far as the sickness goes was wasn't on any of those new beginning shows I love the thought of Shingo and go to I love the thought of Shingo holding onto that felt that built has now gone from the Haas title and most thanks for all non so long. They're a man who has gone from the hostile to the boss title now. Shingle go out there and and chop and pound away against goes in the world of course is going to have a banger with Goto. Yes literally in more ways than one but he can take that felt offended against. We'll Osprey we're going to hear him against against against Bandido. Obviously the belt will be online against Chris Dickinson but no matter what the style is there is not a style that Shingo can't work easy perfect person for that Bill L.. especially if you're going to use it as a transitional belt maybe to bring up a we'll all sprain officially make him a heavyweight so much more to get info from this weekend. I know Dave Meltzer and Brian are going to talk about a ton of it. We've got saint. Louis Milwaukee announces new places dynamite to be taping dynamite has also added added a South Eastern Continental presentation. They're going to be doing this. This coming up this Wednesday Huntsville So we'll see how that goes at. I thought the Memphis one was a little bit. We hope they do a little bit better in hype that one down there and Hans for a little bit more but a ton of stuff gave him. Brian are going to get into knife or subscribers caressing observer DOT COM and as far as this show goes for here for you every day and we shall talk to you again after a while. You're listening to the heartland newsfeed. Radio Network Broadcasting Live twenty percent or by Newsweek in this stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by follow us on facebook twitter and instagram in the public service charges cast February third twenty twenty on Mike Clifford former Morgan. 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They're getting another job another two jobs and that affects what's is going on in the classroom when our great teachers cannot give all their focus to their main job he adds the state also has a critical shortage of school nurses counselors and teaching assistants assistance and a disproportionately low ratio of educators. Who are people of Color the PSE is also calling for an increase in the minimum educator salary from eighteen thousand five hundred dollars to forty five thousand dollars a year? That minimum salary has not been increased since nineteen eighty-eight Maryland's. It's the first state in the country with a program that offers daily wellness checks by phone for older residents State Delegate Ben Kramer sponsored initiative he says the folkestone. I don't answer the phone. After three attempts desert any contact person or local law enforcement will be called to come to their homes. Very often are senior. Residents residents. Don't have someone who checks in on them routinely so the goal here is to give them a little piece of mind so that we can try to help nope our seniors age in place and that. If they can't get to the phone there will be a follow up after I successful pilot program in two thousand eighteen senior culture became became available. Statewide last month. Finally are Eric Rudolph reports. It may be winter but thoughts of Sunnier days already. The mind in places like northeastern Montana talent the American Prairie Reserve Rowing nonprofit conservation project attempting to protect Montana's grasslands wants the public to see this unique landscape and there are signs the public wants to see it to Mike counts with. APR says reservations quadrupled last year. The conservation effort butts up against the Upper Missouri. Lever Breaks National Monument. Kelt says there's a new hut system on the river. We've been working for a couple of years now to really wide not options for people wanting to come out and exploited. Grasslands we have a hut that's on the Missouri River that I think can be a great stop for paddlers doing the wild and scenic Missouri River. Apr Stores both of four hundred thousand acres between Lewistown and the Fort Belknap reservation. I'm Mike Clifford. Thanks for starting with Public News Service we are a member ambulances disappointed or online at public service DOT. Org and listen to them and say yeah let everybody listen the USA radio network presents presents the greatest radio programs of all time coming the CBS Radio Workshop Gop dedicated to man's imagination. The theater of the mind this is classic Radio Theatre wanted to get away from it all aw. FBI and he's in war McGee the unexpected. The unexpected unexpected. Ah Now here's your host. Why cops evening friend? An episode of suspense from late in Jim. They're run John. Stevenson starring in Arctic rescue. This was originally broadcast sixty four years ago today January thirty first nineteen eighteen fifty six. Thanks for tuning in on this. Tgi Friday thirty first day of January thirty first day of twenty twenty and we have three hundred thirty four days remaining. Until can we get two twenty twenty one or you're still riding twenty nine thousand nine hundred. Yeah you'd be surprised how many times I still say twenty nineteen instead of twenty twenty confederate general. Robert Lee became general in chief on this date in eighteen. Sixty five in the American civil war Three am began marketing. Scotch tape on this date in nineteen thirty. The the Green Hornet Radio show debuted on this date in nineteen thirty six and in Nineteen forty-five Army Private Eddie Slavic executed the first American soldiers since the civil award be executed for diversion desertion. Back in one thousand nine hundred eighty five president. 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Stevenson starring in Arctic rescue night's presentation of radios outspending spending theater of thrills. Tonight we bring you a transcribe story of a group of brave men who risked their lives in a desperate effort to save their fellow man. We call it. Arctic take rescue starring. Mr John Stevenson Eras Two nights spence. Play Arctic Rescue Christmas Thomas Night Miles and miles of endless anti broken vice an ice floe drifting acting somewhere in the vicinity of the seventy third parallel north of the Arctic Circle. Nothing but I that is really nothing. If you look Catholic through the winter night you'll see two tiny dock blemishes. A figure of two men. One twisted in an unconscious are skipping. Jonathan Blake the other figure Gerald. Excuse me own it makes us sorry civilized men in Conservative wilderness of ice waiting out listening picture. It it's a different picture you've seen if you've been part of the excited standing at the battery of a New York waterfront on June. The year eighteen fifty to the moment of departure. I Lady Franklin. It must take the high tide me. God and his great mercy protect you and your men from the perils which await for Ted for heart and we shall succeed where the other failed and ending the mystery of the Erebus and terror. Back to Dean in time for Christmas. Feast we prepare Christmas celebration. Your men will never forget. Captain that can England next week. I actually pray for this talk of you. Thank you Croft. I stand many a watch chatted thinking of last night. The ball answering you that he's all of us. I mean what I made you staying. attilio niece lady thinking it is how gratefully officers and crew while the farewell ball you held in Iran. Alas not grateful one Captain Blake. Please bring them all home safely. Come come now lady. Thank you know. Need Jessica is a sturdy ship. The men are in good health and lovely spirits. We'll be back Christmas title. Change the other way then. Goodbye and good luck cat. Lady this this breakoff Captain Blake the banisters. Kill it Godspeed thank you. We shall see evidence Christmas Week. Let's get this yes yes you're that all hands it then morning. Stations business to sir. Pass the oldest accustomed to Kostov. Aw what a what. Eh Shifts underway. Mr Failure is the site of New York. It's last-ditch be seeing for some time to a good long talk Jessica. Moves slowly to the outer harbour. I watched a tiny delicate white donna crowd at the walk. She stood beside lady Franklin waving. I watched until the morning fog erased in the New York waterfront. Uh aside from the ship's log I decided to keep a running account at least will be transferred to what to John's from onto the current fit any disaster. The first three weeks of navigation north. Were merely a matter settling down to ships routine on June thirtieth that he is after officers mess. We did punked farewell on the Greenland coast at the time. Had come for the captain to read a letter of instructions given to him by lady. Franklin Captain Blake. I'm sure you will do all the Dinnie men. Ken In discovering the fate of my husband's and John Franklin and his two ships Erebus and terror. But my only fear is that you might sacrifice your lives and the unknown regions of the Arctic. Therefore let me we state that above all else. The preservation of the lives of you and your companions is more important to me than the purpose of your journey. God in his great mercy preserve you all from harm amidst perils which await and restore you to us safely and in health. Breath is whether it's your sincere detached friend Jane frankly. These are the only written instructions as I have. Gentlemen now this is the map. Please Gentlemen Admiralty. I didn't get of the Arctic regions. We pitchy map almost completely blang. I missed Halladay. Thousands of miles of chartered wilderness. And somewhere in that frozen Tundra sir. John and his men vanished now. Search will begin tomorrow when we upped anchor in God. We pick up our ice pilot. Mr Patrick Henson's or medical supplies and then make the Arctic Circle acted circle. Sounds like the edge of the world is doing frightening to you. Right Mr Halliday Bible you. I would respect this Stewart's tier of what lies before us. Captain I was just thinking if Franklin was looking for the northwest passage passage. Probably make an approach through here. Lancaster sound must've passed bonds. Bay according to our information there are Eskimos at Bonds Bay. They might have seen ships into Lancaster. Sound and if they did then we'll have something to go by. I hope Mr Hansen understands ESP devote dialects. They can tell us. But I don't see how we can cover all this territory and get back by Christmas captain. We have no choice. Mr Stewart get caught beyond the Arctic Circle Circle after the summer months. We may never get back. Never I in the winter. The Caesar covered with great ice floes once a ship is frozen in in those latitudes. Stay there until some thought and you can't imagine hovers Arctic Winter Holiday. I I suppose suppose not Franklin and his men were probably frozen in for the winter and they never heard from again. It's actually that will give you a beef idea ultra reinforcement. No more after Mister Hinson comfortable any questions. I have nothing but questions captain. I wish I had the answers Stewart. Uh the next day we dropped anchor. In the harbor of Ga air we could take on additional winter clothing dogs eskimo drivers and Mr Hansen. Our ice go. Tab was nothing more than a few Hudson's bay trading company that we prepared to go ashore alone. Boats suddenly appeared it alongside captain. Blake I Patrick Hansen. Your ice pilots about Cindy voters. Show Hoya Mister Hinson all the time for that captain but we planned on picking up supplies. Dogs brought them in the boat. Watch the rush Mr Hansen. This Jarrell stood and I I made never been to the Arctic kick before Mr Stewart. No take my word for it. We better get up Dave. I'll we got the summer weather. You Bet all right so we run into a little. Summarize Jessica's repaired for it. Yeah she looks like good strong ship. You never seen iron ship up here before and steam engine to. That's all the Jessica has. There's an additional iron plates across to Ho as well as edited briefing. Thought you and the forward bending the bow is solid iron and razor sharp at the end that will do your rice. Mr Hansen to knew she at the ice can do to ship. Even iron chip Mr Stewart View received my letters and you made inquiries about the edifice. Some here. They couldn't get dogs so they headed for Pawns Bay across across Baffin Bay. That's right just as we saw it is L. A. Day Esa get those supplies aboard them. Prepare the ship for sea is observed. You can watch US across the Arctic Circle next and onto punched me. North by northwest costs leaving the last outpost of civilization behind this and cross the Basha Day on July fourth across the Arctic Circle and we had ice freezing deck and in the rigging a day later. We saw I floating iceberg. But this time of the year we should not have seen either one from goto Dupont's bay six and a half days. Perfect con on lending. We found a small contingent of Eskimos. But nothing else they. They seemed hostile and would give us no information. Then as we were preparing to return to the Jessica one of the natives a girl rushed from one of the Hudson down to the beach Say Mister Hinson sure captain. Look she wants us to look at it. It's a small small last button from naval uniform. See She traded this insane delivers what what does she mean by that Yosef. She turned to say man's knee gallagher. Joseph Gallagher Stewart is that let name months of John's cruelest. I'm looking for. It's here master Joseph Ghana. They've been here. 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Thirty first one thousand nine hundred fifty six in the newspapers of that Tuesday sixty four years ago. These were some of the headline Atomic Energy Commission in reported yesterday. Testing of nuclear engine designs for aircraft is now underway at the E. C.'s. Idaho experimental plant a semi annual report of the Commission and covering developments in the last six months of one thousand nine hundred eighty five said. The aircraft reactor program was accelerated from Washington Secretary of Agriculture Benson came under fresh fire in Congress. Yesterday with Congressman Verdict Republican South Dakota suggesting that Benson and some other cabinet members should wear muzzles demands for Bentsen's resignation rose last week after publication of a letter signed with his name applauding a magazine article. which called the American? Farmer are a pampered. Tyrant Benson's apologetic statement. Friday that the letter to the editor of Harper's magazine was a stamp. Boehner added to the uproar on Capitol Hill. But there were a Republican from Utah. Senator Bennett told the Senate yesterday. The Secretary Frank. Acknowledgement of the editor editor showed courage and should persuade critics to withdraw draw their demands that he resigned. I'm Minister Eden pledged Britain's full support. Yesterday the President Eisenhower Statement of policy that Russia should ease world tensions tensions by deeds not words Eden personally assured Eisenhower. Britten stand at the first of a series of White House meetings called to coordinate British and American Policy Captain William Jed winged across the North Atlantic and treacherous winter weather at the controls of a single engine plane but is not forced him to abandon yesterday and effort to fly nonstop from New York to Cairo. He sat down at an airport near Paris after thirty four hours eleven minutes in the cockpit of his gleaming silver silver and Yellow Star of the Red Sea the forty year old native of South Haven. Kansas was forced by icing crested wings. And six hours of tiring instrument applying to end his flight in Paris. The explosion late last night rock. The home of the Negro Ministry has been a prominent leader in the eight week old Negro. We grow boycott of city buses. Because of the segregated seating arrangements early reports indicated damage was extensive however police would not immediately mmediately say if anyone was injured in the home of the Reverend Martin Luther King the chief spokeswoman the demonstrating Negro population of Montgomery Baltimore's Alta. Moore's two hundred thousand regular bus and trolley writers unseated by strike for the second time in four weeks Mumford their way to work yesterday through streets jammed with cars. There's all city and state officials kept pressure on the Transit Company and Union drivers prospects for an early settlement did not appear encouraging from Tallahassee. Florida comes word that in one thousand nine year old German girl as Governor Leroy Collins to help her find a not rich but wealthy American husband Keirin Aletsch of Berlin writing. I wish that he is tall and from a good appearance he must be in a certain position. I mean he must be rich but wealthy his is character shelby likable. That is my greatest wish. Karen pin three tiny snapshots to the letter which were not clear enough to give a good idea per qualifications nations however she did send along. These vital statistics wait fifty one kilograms height one point six seven meters hair. Middle Blonde is blue in her letter. Addressed to the mayor of Florida said she could find an American to marry in Berlin but she much preferred Lord because she quoting likes nature. Richard Florida is wonderful. No word from the governor's Office on whether he was going to be searching and those are some of today's top news stories as reported in the newspapers up Tuesday a January thirty first nineteen fifty-six on your Radio Suspense Arctic rescue which continues now on Classic Radio Theater after leaving Ponds Bay. Two months passed without incident. Then we ended Lancashire sound and approached. The sketchley trotted islands along on Bass Strait and we counted great mountains of floating ice and we had only a few hours of twilight each day. We crossed the seventy fifth parallel North into Wellington Channel to Bathurst island last of the islands in my neck and on September ten with a change northwest iced gail sleet and heavy fog at foster's to a crawl and whoosh mammoth ice floes at closed in all around us. Even I on the temperature I gotTa Daban six degree three smaller all time getting the temperature still nothing zero. What do you think of this lead and take maybe the tobacco go to hear back? I'll take a look stern heads back outwear. Tin The response fix Khalid is getting spoiled. The captain wet seems to be closing down on us on all couch. The walls of the lead moved in closer until a jump to the ice from either side of the ship. And then the Jessica was through the X.. Making her own slowly. We lost it. Finally ship gave up to the ice frozen in stop. Engines is disturbed. Catch Asa Captain Blake. Looks like we can forget about looking for John on Franklin and he ships be frozen and they're going to have to look out for our lives you bet You are listening to Arctic rescue. Tonight's presentation in Radio's outstanding theatre of thrills suspense fifty four years ago January thirty first nineteen eighteen fifty six suspense on Classic Radio Theater. The conclusion comes up and just three minutes on this Friday edition right here on your favorite station. How did you sleep last tonight? 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Ed List from the pressure of the flow Russians were cut in food water and coal consumption furious gales came and went there were more freezing temperatures often as lowest thirty five below. The doctor was a busy man. Daily all hand suffering from frostbite many from gangrene conditions about the Jessica they did. They couldn't get any worse October. November December should we sort of home holidays and a lady Franklin and this cross sitting alone. The Christmas feast that was was to be held in our on Christmas Day the cook outdid himself. We had a feast of the Jessica on the left of the salt pork and the beef and with the last of the also Ale and minced beat the cook made pies and we had a celebration Christmas Day. Eighteen fifty two men. The captain has is a word to say I. I dropped below to offer you. Greetings on this holiday and to wish you a much happier Christmas Christmas eighteen fifty three one one year later wish to frozen in some came and passed without an appreciable rise in temperature on the ice failed to break up and living panicking occasionally see lubbock lime juice. This means scurvy. Also the loss of eleven minutes doctor and the ice pilot Hanson among them all to chase pull their three from scurvy and the restroom gangrene gangrene of the men had frostbite. Second Christmas or the optic flow that holds the ship is shifting south down peels he saw the shores of King William Island in the captain sent three men on a sledge to look for food devils Iraq. Ken Uh anything they returned today. Did you find it in a can. We also found Empty Pinton cans and in bits of ships tumor stirred. Listen to this. It was written by Franklin himself eighteen fifty one. Let it to sixty nine degrees. Longitude eight degrees. West Taylor sank when ice broke head of a still flows in since April twelfth eighteen fifty. We are deserting the erebus attempting overland much to Beck's fish river Hudson Bay if unheard from when this found. We must be considered lost so John Plankton captain h a mischievous. We've found on what we came for. And they're all dead. I if something. It doesn't happen pretty soon. We'll be dead to make sure a very merry Christmas captain mm-hmm. I hit the ice breaking cracks in the ice. And then through the helpings another great they might of six hundred yards up into the sanctions on this great. Thanks thanks for the We're going out on the ice. Ace could feel the ship jarring. Listen I believe Jessica Can aware of pain in my leg movement. I in my eyes Captain was helping me. Look I looked into the winter. Darkness familiar cited the Jessica so nothing nothing but I I'm feeling about the ship. Gone the rest of the none those on the other side we have. We no keep walking. They keep walking. We've looks to let's Christmas without you. Log in US goof. SKIP move it on. Finding Jagged Hunks of ice falling fin spots. Meg Scott froze. We beat the Ice Shelf walking in circles. Through the optic night. This realist in this sleep. Bitch the ice comforting. I don't sleep wake sleep. Vapors will tomorrow this morning this to it but we'll be hidden the EH C.. SUITE SLEEP PAT I. School have crave sleep to the sweep. Was I was right here. In the sky over the horizon in the night was over cash other just aw bright in the distance I could see. Aw Bright Star over the horizon pop up on your feet going to keep talking. I WANNA see so. You've got to get up on walking their thoughts. That stop unconscious now. What could it be? The nights to the optic stops for the August proving this talking plaza awesome. I couldn't believe what certainly a bad through the dacas beneath the stop outline ship off breath He's coming out of it house. Do It do it. I Stock Doc Holliday. In the flesh I saw ship. You're on it. But how did it come from the Jessica. I know it's the oedipus one of Franklin ship the one they deserted. Who did it come from? Well there we were all of us. Except you in the captain lying on that flow off Jessica. Went Down Ready to die it just as we thought you died and then just as graceful as you please we see our ship. Drifting slowly out of the fog through the broken ice right to us the captain I left him out on the ice now. He's all right. We brought him aboard and pretty soon. We'll be on our way home. Yes the ice is open we can get out the other of us. Were take us back. How's that for Christmas surprise? I follow this time. Is He's sleeping. What was that? He said he followed a stock. Aw Now we must have seen that land hang on the main must mistook it for a star saved his life and the captain being that. It's still Christmas. I guess you could call it a miracle. He's talking that Sir Uh Suspense off in which John Stevenson starred in tonight's presentation of Arctic rescue suspense is transcribed in Hollywood. By after the other night was written by Gus. Bay The music composed by Ed guy and conducted by Wilbur Hatch featured in the cast where her butterfield. Norma Varden Lillian via Richard Neal George Walls John Dodds worth and Layton January thirty First Nineteen fifty-six suspense on Classic Radio Theatre Visit Our web page classic Radio Dot Stream have a great weekend until your friends. The great radio shows are back right here at this spot on the dial classic Radio Theater on your favorite station and the USA. I say radio network. You're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio network broadcasting live twenty percent of newspeak. This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by follow us on facebook twitter and INSTAGRAM's public service charges artist Caspar third twenty twenty. I'm Mike Clifford former New York mayor. 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Now to really widen the options for people wanting to come out and exploit grasslands we have a hut that's on the Missouri River that I think can be a great stop stop for paddlers doing the wild and scenic Missouri River Apr Stewards both four hundred thousand acres between Lewistown and the Fort Belknap reservation should i Mike Clifford. Thanks for starting to weaken public news service. We are member supported or online at public. Do Service Dot. Org in the USA radio network percents the greatest radio programs of all time. Dylan the United States Marshal the first man. They look for the last thing I want to meet. It's a job that makes them an watchful. Lonely gun smoke. This is plastic. Radio Co Theater James Stewart as the six you have gun will travel over the lone ranger. Now here's your host. Why it Cox in Western adventure this hour Jimmy Stewart Stars as Rick Poncet? The six shooter an episode that was originally broadcast January thirty first nineteen eighteen fifty four. The trail to sunset James Stewart as the shooter The man in the saddle is angular long skin. The Sun died the gun in his holster is gray steel and Rainbow Mother of its handle unmarked. People call them both the sexual The NBC ABC Radio Network Presents James Stewart as the six shooter transcribe series of Radio Dramas. Based on the life of Brit puzzle the Texas Plains men who wandered through the Western territories leaving behind a trail of still remembered ledge Snow during the night. Thank wet snow Pine Trees and bank over the boulders turn on him white and I found myself lying under a heavy six inches of GonNa woke up Scar he looked like a white whiskered borough over there standing in and decide what was left with a campfire trying to shave himself dry. I don't take it easy boy. The fire started again. The would I'd gathered at the night before pretty wet so I got a hand act out of a pack and I headed over toward a little hill about a quarter of a mile away since the wind had been from the north. I figured some some of the brush on the far side might still be burning and very easy climate a couple of times in my the need but the snow was already beginning to melt fast. Even though the sun hadn't slashed this guy and that meant we'd be able to start it off on our show them stuff would be thinned down to Moseley's muddy water I at the crash on the hill loved around and the south side sliced away at a good sharp angle and grounds variety Dr a spot on a couple of dead oak saplings. Lying on the ground tenpy be blooming. Seemed likely they'd get far drill on. I kinda surprised to find jobs grown at this altitude even so some bothering scar from a Jack Rabbit or Squirrel Sure was making a Lotta racket. Wasn't like him get upset. And let's all that wasn't Jackrabbit as a whole lot more than that dropped my accent. I climb back the top of the hill as fast as I could. Climb son was inching over the rim of spooner arrange and I the reflection. The Snow Blind eyes focused I. I saw the follow standing beside scar. Tried a cinch. The saddle bag along and looked up and for a minute. He stood there. They didn't know exactly what to do next any jerk. The leather tightening put Mr Scar wasn't very helpful. But it didn't keep the amount now. Aw I knew. I couldn't make the snow before they wrote off and I didn't like the idea. Chances Shot not with scar raring away was but I didn't have much choice voiced on my first shot wide. Oh maybe five. Six feet scar was taken the spur sort of starting to move in spite of himself. Another another minute or two. They'd be out of range or that was close but not close enough and must the high on the leg. He twist around tried to get a whole Powell buddy his fingers slip off and I saw them slide in a small couldn't see whether he had a gun or not out the time there was a clear on between us and he was using the boulder for cover little spread. Snow told me I ah the rock right in front of them. I waited for him to answer my fire but one the sound from that side. Maybe it was just waiting to open. I'd get anxious awesome. Come out in the open. Well I wasn't going to be that obligent still the Najer. I reloaded my gun. Edged over to the ride. I can just circle without him saying maybe yeah I can come up behind him. Twenty minutes later I managed to skirt around the clear and he was up in front of me now just a couple of bowlers away. Got Up on haunches and I charge then. I saw why it's been so quiet. He was sprawled out. Face down on the snows staying on at red wasn't just his leg. That was doing the bladen either. I was a bullet hole in the small of his back in the piece of cloth fastened over it had come. Loose gun was lying beside him. Within easy reach I picked it up up still on bullet had been fired started coming to and I eat them on. His side is is kind of have openly. His lips were too heavy for them to rise all the way still a lot of things in my time. But I ain't never been horsey before odd. You better take it easy. I'm pullout addition. I guess I'm lucky. His whole man being caught always said they'd never hanging alleged rewards is wanted posters. Just waste to donate never hang as expressway tressler. You heard me yeah. Yeah I've heard everybody's heard amaze dress the one way or another to bed. It West your shot the I liked mighty fancier award. Three thousand dollars must do not counting. Yesterday yesterday. States Deco over to sunset. Jiji didn't like that a day being held not just took care of him. He won't be shoot. Nobody else. You Killed Sam Fletcher. I Dunno is named messed. You don't expect to file it another names all the many shoots. How'd you get out here without a horse? Good twenty miles from sunset opponent. This two couple of hours ago all that snow coming down. He's sort of missed foot. BERTA self assured having put him out of his fine. How messed I have Surat shame? Shame Man Gilo horse like that's only reason that dreaded take thank you and I had to have some gun is posse how much I've never stolen before I know hoc- well you think you you can hang on about. Hi Shawna the saddle. What folks you need a doctor scar carry us both only doctors and some yeah? That's right make this get this. You can try no. I'm not going back to. We might run into Paseo headway. Yeah we might aid. String me up in the other extreme and nobody turnover in your face but the Bandage Bangla Semester. Anyway is too few you can stay here and then you can say you collect the reward for yourself. Three I come on turnover long as he let again. But nobody's GonNa Lynch you treasure. His Commute Yeah how missed what align hang a stressor. He passed out again but he was still alive. Still hanging on by a thread. I managed to get a couple of makeshift bandages. Fastened on the bleeding seemed to have his leg wasn't hurt too bad. The bullet just sort of went through the flesh and it didn't look like broken anything but the wounded is back l.. Is more serious far as I could tell. The bullet had just gone all the way into his chest. I picked him up Latam across scars back. Then I looked a robe around is brought in tried to fix it so they wouldn't slide around too much of it was going to be very comfortable ride but is unconscious. Running would not all right. Let's go come on. We weren't able to make very good time with scar carrying both of us through all that slush almost two hours later before we became the main sunset trail just we turned on. I spotted the posse. least what I've figured was the plaza. Five man opened along toward us from the East East. Dog Prints had the for session and he was the local dentist. Anna recognize tie bar stone frosty ender behind him. Two boys bringing up the rear. I didn't look familiar. Probably moved into sunset since the last time I was there. War Howdy Odi Hello Doc. I said he was pleased. Reach Mr Pons houses. I'm cliff sloshing. This year's hard north I shit I recognize he the minute you come at the site. I said there's a security and I guess there's nothing is quite loud Brit what happened. It's our Tressler Dressler New Neil Patel. Gone Ceesay team. Oh right as it sure. Looks like them pictures on the posters. That don't don't take the cake as neighborhoods getting to be real outlaws haven Oregon Maybe they'll change their mind about hanging around after they find out what happened today. Yeah we've done a pretty good job of taking in welcome at Hertie. Good asked me. We set a record with Poncet. Help record oh you boys didn't need any help from me. Okay you would have found Tressler yourself or long what are you talking about Brits. We didn't have the faintest idea he was in these parts. Sure we were already on our way back to town. You mean you mean you weren't looking for I'm am I not well. What are you doing here then? I thought you were a positive Possi like we were hunting Georgia rabbit rabbit. Yeah you remember him. Don't you Rob Rob Pill. Jefferson General store a couple years back almost killed. Oh Man Jeffers Yeah. I remember Sarah Hebrew gene week ago. The one over the polk city. And what do you think he did. He headed straight for sunset and he tried to pull another robbery on this time. You did kill Sam Fletcher while he was added. Now just hold on a minute here. Are you trying to tell me that. You're looking for George Revenue Nudge. You think he's responsible for the robbery at the state depot and we know it grits looking for him anymore. We found why yeah a couple of hours ago. I do a cabinet over by Walnut Creek right and they won't be pulling no more holdups. Neither we resorted that you'd better let me explain this. He kind of hasty this morning. It isn't as if we didn't give reva trial. Hi How trial. Well there was. No doubt about is being guilty brick and seeing houses no judging sunset and we have to wait 'til next green for a formal hanging the speed things up on my you you didn't string him up yourself not very high up just a couple of feet. The Boys Hannah Brick. There's no point in your look all fired serious. There's nothing anybody can do about it now. That's true enough dog. There's nothing anybody can do. We'll will return to James Stewart as the six shooter in just a moment January thirty first one thousand nine hundred fifty four the six continues in three minutes on your favorite station. 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You say I gave them my word that he was gone to a medical doctor. I don't get you. You say he was afraid he might balint. We ain't got no grudge against Tressler. Brit I guess he's mean as they come but you never given us no bothering son's head that's all I told you. We didn't even know he was in in these parts. Why you should have known a dog? And he's the man who shot Sam Fletcher. Look Doc. I know what you're up to. Just Joshua S. You're trying to make ends up along and take care of George. All I'm saying is the Tressler told me he's held up the stage depot last night and killed the fall on charge. You Ain't Sherry. I'm about a series as I can be. Oh but that don't make sense. I I had had to REV it. What made you assure we knew? He broke and somebody said they thought they seem to be. And let me see who was Janis suits I think career yeah. We picked up his trail per from the depot. Read to that cabinet alone. Greg where we find him he admit the robbery and the shooting when he don't expect Amanda admitting that when he knows it's a rope waiting for him. Yeah well I'll tell you well. No No. No we hold vigil wrong about this. Why you just gotTa be wrong? You think I'm lying. No no no no no of course not everything pointed to revenue or maybe just making that up to forty told you the how did he find out about the robbery. Then where you'll know we wouldn't have done anything. We weren't certain in our own minds we will right. Why why you know that it's possible? We made a mistake. Well I'm not saying that we did but it is possible even if we're dead rather deserve hanging. He's deserved it for a long long time. Yes that's what I'm getting at. We didn't do any harm. Breath not really get an Oh of course not but what if you tale folks about this. Well they might not see it our way they might figure that we took too much. himselves see won't say anything. 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We did go off half cocked. I suppose we were kind of hasty with revenue where we're sorry about it but there's nothing we can do for him now. That seems you told me that before while it's the truth and sure within. What would you gain by getting into hot water letting people know that we kind of overstepped the mark? Is that what you call. Overstep on the mark would be different. Revenue was innocent. Well somehow I got the idea that he was robbery. Maybe but he had a brother Ponce's He'd be alive today wasn't for George Rabbit. Is that why you hung him to get even for your brother. No no no no cost. We'll just just doing our duty as citizens we thought he shot. Sam Fletcher. Why why are we standing here? Argon wants to try and make trouble. Ain't got no proof. His word against hour clips right. We can even say that record confessed why everybody accent settled beliefs. Well then I don't see what you're so worried about is we ain't worried Brit not really. Of course we're not. I know you pretty well. We've been friends longtime why you're not gonNA go out of your way to stir up a Hornet's nest no I'm sure that well I answer. Sure just a minute poncet. You're not leaving here yet now. Frost and borders. It's about time we started using our heads he goes into. Tom Spreads this story around the law. Believe it whatever. Brit onset says that's Gospel but he ain't going to say anything that's right he ain't ain't riding in into sunset. He's turning around and heading east is that's all I know you're fast man on the draw but there's five of us. You're not that past no Reagan. I'm not we want to get into except Brit frosty. Start saying we might have George Rabbit mattered. That ain't done at all. His family might not agree with your cliff. They found out the truth about about that whole of last night. And he's got a brother two. Maybe they is something in what processes but we can't stop Brit now if he takes it upon himself as stop reverend. Didn't we the gun away. Put It away for. I'm sure the pundits right in east. I'm wondering you ever breathe a word about what Pressler told Yeah. I don't like Ben ordered around frosty and just gave away from sunset. I'm up I said WOW al.. I held my ground. I knew frost and are pretty well. On her newly wouldn't showed his business would rather rather pushed him in the deep water but not that Dave watched his jaw muscles tighten up is so limited bead of sweat begin together between his eyes and for a minute. Nobody said anything and then barshop forward. I told you to put it away for us. De wasn't what we already done today. Bad enough. You WanNa kill somebody else. We got nothing wrong. Get three or Scott. Hi deserve the Hanley on him. What about Brit spos-? He deserves being shot. Now I'M NOT GONNA ask for that gun you're holding just proves our wrong. We were this morning. We've been right. You wouldn't need it shut up we've been right. We wouldn't be standing here freedom. Shame you feel shame. It's where you don't want anybody to hear but that's why you're threatening Brady and I'll make good on that threat to we're going into sunset and tell them what happened. We're GONNA take our medicine. You'RE GONNA look at ages because rabbit didn't kill Sam Fletcher. Even if he had still wouldn't have been right I reckon we wouldn't have found out so quick but sooner or later you know adhere tie a yellow got a strike a yard. What Danica back? We're just as anxious to string up. Reverence arrest US things. Things didn't turn out the way you figured strew enough. That's what you're clear who you got the gun for us to stop me if you want to along. Yeah Okay Earth monitoring on Rosty kept on yellow until they're almost almost out of sight then he turned and shook his head like he couldn't figure out what had happen picked up tressler bought in. I laid it across Scars Back Jack. Frost swung around and stared at me. And he'll folks segue done fine. Nobody would have known about Tressler Hustler. meet up with him today. Why because it snowed last night and his pony stumbled and he needed another horse? Eddie no reason. Oh maybe not frosty may not you coming into the town yeah In the shooter is transcribed. NBC Radio Network Production in Association Association with revue. Productions it is based on a character created by Frank Burke underwritten by Mr Stewart may currently be seen in the universal international pictures of the Glenn and Miller story others in the cast were Robert Griffin. Harry bartell Lamont Johnson Howard McNair Forrest Lewis Special Music for this program was by Basil Adam. The entire production under the direction of Jack Johnstone all characters and incidents were fictitious and any resemblance to actual characters or incidences purely coincidental. Oh by the way you'll be interested in knowing. The sex shooter has been chosen for broadcast doormen overseas to the facilities of the armed forces. 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And here's the story of the three road to administer uh-huh I mean my honest Amish table ringing being all along On Ah to call upon thank Harvey Floor counting on you. Oh Man Dan this what am I supposed to do. You can tell where she was about the most thrilling experience of your Great Scott it's my turn already. It certainly is frank and I have an idea. You're going to give us a story about Mexico. You've been all over Mexico. Where yes I've seen most of it but I doubt if any one man can quite see at all? I have marvelous experiences in the Mayan country. And you could hand and why don't you tell us about that. I shall someday but I understand that this clip wants. The most thrilling experience of my career didn't occur in Yucatan but in the northern part of Mexico in the state of Sonora. This is all you gentlemen have heard of the notorious Punch Avia. You have any trouble with you. Well he tried to kill me and I tried to kill him outside of that. We didn't have any trouble I Did he do all ransom. No he got me in all started this way. I'd been supervising an engineering project. Near Prieta Data Punch. You began taking as usual and she and the border towns raided and burned round shows. Stolen cattle general proved himself to be pretty some rain. I had never seen him but one of my Mexican lubers came to me with a story that he used used to be punch. Sylvia's Lieutenant Lieutenant. I think it was. This claim that he knew where punch Sylvia kept his trader. There was a secret canyon in the Serum Mountain where he had hidden all his lewd and us out to you. It certainly did if if I could outwith veer by stealing his treasure I just about ruin him if he couldn't support army is powered begun. Furthermore a lot of that money in fact most of it had been taken from American plumes or even banned layer recompense moon former and back for the USA. With everything. I could get my hands on was daring scheme. Dangerous business to me. He was here. It was plain foolhardy but I was called called by the spirit of a thing. This Mexican had a map that showed the exact location of the treasure. Took another American into my confidence. Young Sologne named Arnold would previous battle with fear and who hated. He's very name. So the relies the Mexican Arnold and I all headed into this little canyon in the mountains where we hope to find the then York these. I'm low because via E on for Ambriz from dead the three. Let's see if it agrees with them. Yeah so this is where the Oh boy buries these pressure pretty desolate looking place. If you ask me these in your me I am the unmanned on northeast bless financial via e. Men will not keep his money. There's a deserted ranch house on this map rim as seas anywhere the NBA via just begun. LOW BOOM BS lost out. Your horses are moving away from remains. We'll see see I. Yeah what's the matter with those horses very nervous. Look at them. Horses consents danger ahead of men. I wonder if there's anyone else in this canyon funding in yours. Let's get busy. Forget horses yes. The sooner we got him here the better I'll like it like can just see via stringing up the poor devils who were hung on that three all alright replaces west of this complementary Anita then Lyon with Killington peak and two paces to the north there's policies on his ninety three ground. She has been there before. I don't give me a pick and fire on ambush move Bloomberg view these men with our live hustle beyond a dustman. They down the murder ranch. Houses maybe we can. We can make that break house. Barricade ourselves they WANNA break. Where's Miss Interesting? I think they've got me she'll be back. Oh He's heard. He shot one or two right on heartless seniors. I can look go on. I stay for the on their more while. You're right on because then when I die out of your seniority move anti has that'll be but he's gone. He can't live ten minutes. Got To make everything straight ahead inside the away at them. Let me I need GonNa crack at the around the rare horses Petiot. Elisa's hurry to even closely. You mean the Post Beers minted tired. At least we picked it out. Then we go. You're right as usual even this year. Old Woman the American girl American. Oh I thought you will bend for you David. My Father Ni- onus ranch was your. Ooh killed him his men kill him only an hour ago. I thought I thought you were men. Oh they go out of here to recruit. I'll belong to you alone. He'll be here in thirty seconds against Garland right. I'll stop the can't desert you to. You've got to save the girl begging you to let me stay. Take back with Ms Davis. Hurry Anything Arnold and when you give me one for me. uh-huh Scot wasn't while she was we'll have gone on land. I wrote for two days created where I knew I was safe there girl and tried to organize it force to return to the Terrible Canyon. It was three days before I could get a group of eight men with enough courage to go with me. What had happened there? I could only guess. The ranch house had been destroyed it by fire. There was times of battle and several men Remiss poor on homes have died and that house but since that they knew the man has ever seen punch over here and I'm sure that Arnold published what he wanted to do. There was money in the spot that we're supposed to contain the bandit flew to this day. I've seen a penny punch-ups treasure. It's hidden away somewhere in the mountains of Mexico and some day. I may go after it again. The man that story make Spring Harvey like the adventurous and up to win a mess to tell the story. WHO shall it be? Do Your Thang. Aw John You're not eh and came on in Oh Aw neat I on and Aw Man AH AH on demand. Ah I and as you say goodbye to the World Adventurous Club. Don't forget that you always a welcome guest. They invite you to join their group and here. 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Don't don't have someone who checks on them routinely so the goal here is to give them a little piece of mind so that we can try to help our seniors age in place and that if they can't get to the phone there will be a follow-up after I successful program in two thousand eighteen senior call check became available statewide last month. Finally are Eric Rudolph reports. It may be winter. Thoughts of Sunnier. Days are already the mind and places like northeastern Montana. The American Prairie Reserve growing nonprofit conservation project attempting to protect Montana's grasslands wants the public to see this unique landscape and and there are signs the public wants to see to Mike counts with. APR says reservations quadrupled last year. The conservation effort butts up against the Upper Missouri River Breaks National Monument. CELTS says there's a new hut system on the river. We've been working for a couple of years. 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Yes Sir and then just a few minutes five. Five top notch mystery writers. All big shots in the field are going to be here to attend Valentine's surprise his birthday party. Lieutenant you sound like you're running a few. No no no. I've done them favors in the past and they're just dying to come along for the fun. Nafta Nafta what you did this morning. I'm suspicious of what you consider fun. come on how come on. Where's your sense of humor? We're going to stop this aid. Your Pony mercy with you. You is Vick and I'm betting Valentine's for it hook line and ticket. Pardon me I laugh. Yes Sir look to see agree to examine the supposed victim an announcement. He's dead and like just see Valentine going into action without even checking without even bothering to find out if there's really been a crime and in front of all those writers to Oh. ooh I'm not GonNa let you do what now. Come on come on reasonable. Valentine's put me on a few spots where I didn't look too bright. I need need this for my morale. That's what I make your bed. What kind of a Ben Wendel for you if I lose the boxer Goshen the I win? Okay you're okay now we Miss Brooks I want you to meet Steve Barron. He writes all those hardboiled detective novels about Dan Flint private. I you mean you write those books about damn flu young lady. One doesn't have to look like a thug. then you understand the psychology of talk to his in Canada and this this is Cornelio Williston. Who writes such wonderful but currently our story you see some of the people? I'm eating my night gruesome. When did the festivities begin? Lieutenant well Valentinus still probably wondering around union station. So let's get on with the introduction. This is Ben Forest and Miss Brooks. He's of the deductive who he's hit right cops today. I don't make the liveliest one you ever saw. Not Think so Miss Brooks your profession. You know what a cook look This is Sigmund Agreements Allies Scientific crime why he spends more time in our police lab than we do. Thank thank you lieutenant. I admit the thoroughness. Even though some of my colleagues nothing like being thorough that may and this it is finally young. Misty Copeland believes that every crime has the psychological basis. And that's the way it will always be as long as crimes committed by human beings. I don't mind suspensive Savannah but I happen to have a dinner party. Where is Mr Valentine? He'll be along any minute now berry or not. Look here much you You know what you have to do as I understand offended. I wore down the window blinds. Dock at the office. I turn on the night right in. Women defendant dying begin to light the candles on his birthday cake. I flipped the lights off and with the pathetic stifled scream. I crumpled to the floor. Oh yeah mother can and beat so repetitious even when you stage it just one minute and one more thing Green Mets I beg your pardon I don't oops poison Valentine's take one of those exotic venoms. You always fall back on in those incredibly dull stories of your. I may seem a little out of date successful accessible bestseller high like you but at least I use careful research. I'm not a hold. You tight a gentleman and remember. This is supposed to be a party. CUT It out green. I I don't like people to laugh at my work. You'll go through the annals of crime you'll discover the voice has been used more officejet. Everybody I think I just heard Valentine's any outside also us. I still think I'm going to win that now. That letter I got this morning I I met Damon. What is this are they? The matter of fact. They're all well no mystery I they might. You'll get an leader but tell me something. Get what about pajamas. And the scribe woman. Didn't you recognize Williams and this verizon hand you had me coming and going no hard feelings. Ask Look here provided Kate and some refreshments so come on celebrate okay. I'm just like screaming. Oh this is nice and cozy. Don't even have a match. Yeah use my lighter. That's the audience. Hurry up Valentine No. You don't get away from it. was that happens sounded sounded like for us. What's going on? Yeah you agreements to get those lights STA with him. Why is he lying there like that? So the town there barry helping. I better get a dog. Wait a minute wait a minute. Don't touch him let me get him. Get the corner. This man's dead lying on his guy on his chest. Dan What are you talking. We want to keep things. Well what's the matter Valentine. Aren't you interested. This happened in your office. I'm quivering like a leaf. I think the only thing that'll calm down as a piece of cake. Tell you still get up lieutenant. This whole setup is as crooked as a worm in an apple. Dining I get a new lands of my man joke. Didn't work the way I get taken for a ride in the morning I try to smarten up come afternoon. Well don't be such a ham for us here yet up. He always did like holding the center this day. Hey wait a minute. You're not trying to put anything over on me. I'm not kidding. There's no dagger in for us. It's just across says the same. He's been killed well. What are you talk on practical job this is no joke roxy right now must forester? There's very much debt we'll return to tonight's adventure. George Lord Valentine in just a moment January thirty first nineteen forty nine Bob Bailey starring in let George do it on Classic Radio Theater back in three minutes with the recession ending. If you've been putting off building your business now is the time to act. General Steel will meet or beat any price on a pre engineered. Steel building of the same size is and specifications act now before steel prices. Go Up so call us today for free information. 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That's eight three three thirty four Bible eight three three thirty four Bible Classic Radio Theater on your favorite station. I should January thirty first. Nineteen forty nine. Bob Bailey Stars as George Valentine in let George do it you'll find yourself a victim of a very elaborate and phony birthday choke planned by of all people kind of rally. It might have been fun except at the man who is opposed to play dead really died and right in your office and and in front of four top notch mystery writers. You know one of the four at the murder him you might call. It may him by experts. In fact that's what we do Uh Valentine why. Why do these things happen to me? I don't feel too good either like a accessory after the fact is I'm GonNa wait. Listen both Indian. Don't let your conscience bother till much forrest as murder was carefully planned. It didn't happen back there in my office it would have happened somewhere else. Well at least we're pretty sure they'll give it somehow. I still can't believe it was greenness. He just doesn't seem to be. The type of Angel is second abortion but the facts sure stacked up against him I tell you could not coupled with a feather when the Communists had forest poison jabbed with a hypodermic needle and then then to find the needle in Green Mets Talk Green. That said he didn't know how it got there and when everybody going around in the dark anybody could've put it there well. He admitted that forrest had been needling him for months telling him all he's been doing for twenty years as rehashing Sherlock Charcoal It's just a little too lieutenant but I certainly don't have any other answer. Well I'm holding green mets on suspicion of murder and I think he's going to turn out to be on man. Good being lieutenant could could be. Hey Brooke see we never did get to celebrate my natal day. Suppose we spended on treasure Saving applying the lights which well lateness to foster foresters apartment has all the standard equipment including copies Craig light another daughter the other room. Brian not to see okay. We're GONNA find out somebody's looking for something you've got to have. He's not missing a trick like just in case. But I don't have to like okay buster. I can't see you but I know you're in there. Come on vocal cords all right all right suit yourself. Now you're either going to have to jump out of that window at try to get past me. biking up your mind. I don't think you're gonNA jump Rancho just stay put while I find the switching now going to be the one null friend I feel like I was baking a cake and stuck my head too far into the oven. Oh judgment what did I do. What did you do? I don't tell me you put this in my Skala. I hit him Yeah that gentleman nine face down over there by the couch. Oh you handle yourself right. Well he hit. You know wasn't anything I could do except take my shoe off and hit him back. God I hope I didn't hit him too hard stern well SURPRI. Yeah big surprise. It's Berry Steve Berry any time on. Vary you realize your story. Sorry sounds as phony as a dime store engagement ray. I know what it's the truth Valentine I heard of people doing things for publicity but not anything like this but I'll try to understand my position in your office Valentine at that pocket the scene of the murder. Well now what would my readers they give. I then Flynn's literary father wasn't able able to solve it. Oh I can just hear the whole nation going. Just what were you looking for your enforced. His apartment and I I don't know does like you any little clues improve whether it was or wasn't greenshoe did just any little clue. I could find the murder. The to my new book might run into millions. You know it's just possible somebody might think you kill forester and we're here trying to destroy evidence. Hey what about that very me. Here's somebody why why I can't even stand the sight of blood it. It makes me faint. The story is my public. Expects from me all that mileage you just have no idea what to strain it. His on me green has the story and you have yours but I told you I am telling the truth and you got you believe me. I'll be able to tell you better about that lady. I got home very put a cold compress your head and you ain't. You'll join me. Where now believe it or not the public library to read some mysteries George getting laid can expect to read all those mystery books tonight. What are you looking for anyway? I know the Butler. Didn't this interview what we're looking for. Yeah see here are the books by Cornelia Williston. copen one of them. Yeah also one particular phrase that keeps bobbing in Tak anything to the police get him in the translucent twilight would you mind repeating in the translucent twilights. Yeah that's what I thought you said I just wanted to be shoot. Why should a lush raise like that keep popping up the books? Both them wrote for me on more intriguing. That'll Franks Cornelia anaemia. Williston is most accessible book. Twisted claw was dedicated to be G. Think fight here on the punishment. The BG kindred spirits with undying block. Look at that Brittleness Willison. You'd never think she'd go into baby. Talk gingered spirit. Look at this book the first one I ever wrote. It wasn't inside Ben for scale like all the later ones it was signed. BG Forester. Do you think maybe it's more than a coincidence. I'm sending a telegram to sweetwater Oklahoma donning. It's little streaks of logic. Bill would rather the book jacket on the twisted claw. Says Miss Williston was born in sweetwater. A telegram the local paper will bring us a lot of interesting details about running and then and then I may WanNa pick up my birthday party where it was violently interrupted with the same list of guests. Guess except of course the late. 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The conclusion of let George Do January thirty first nineteen forty nine time. What's the reason for this crab break? Just what have you got on your mind. Have you found something to clear this man here on coming to Michigan the medicines and other over. I if you're here to tell me how much I despise foster. You wouldn't be saying anything. That's not who he was obnoxious arrogance. But I wouldn't go to the double healing easy green much okay about nine okay. What are you know that we should know Brooks before the G- lieutenant blows a gasket? Goodbye Good Bye Josh dotting I shall meet you. Translucent fly light translucent modernist Williston those words seem to have a special meaning for you. There's nothing more beautiful than a translucent. Twilight is what's going on inside look wouldn't you say that was purple phrase Mr Copeland in the translucent twilight I I would not. Should you read your own books or if at least you read the ones somebody else wrote for you. What do you mean by that? What is this like you want all these fine detail not? She made the library. I believe US Williston will at Michi road. All of Copeland's books. As well as our own crudeness you knew what you're seeing that can't be the style of two different Allenton even knowing one phrase he recurring off in a book written by coach. All right as a crazy anyway. It could have been coincidence. Office this fall in love with certain phrases I use them over and over again without even realize it. They become just as much a part of him. Revealing is their fingerprints. You're right valid. I know right I keep finding my anti contain over again. I'm going to slam you since we opted. That's cool yeah. I my influences antique Mr Valentine I I famous I received a little information from sweetwater Oklahoma. That's supposed to terrify me. You wrote Copeland's books. Very good reason. He happens to be your son. What hit pride forced you to make a successful rider viewers John Coney Son Mitch Take it easy there? No there was a Mr Williston one time okay. Why don't you admit bitcoin into your a widow? It's all here in this telegram. All right what if I am. You're GONNA stop it. No Valentine yes. Cornelius quantity is my mother. She wanted to help me my rivers nobody else's business how K- okay okay so this is going to make headlines in the Saturday review of literature. Now what about go on reese mystifying the Williston. You very reason to kill for us too. Didn't you write iheart knew him except professionally. He was just another writer. And is that why you dedicated a kid. Twisted Claude of BG at I quote with Undying Love Forest as middle initial was G.. Kafer jared. He was the kind of man who had other women call him. BG and with the same undying love. You're right about that. Valentine forester was always bragging about his success with a fair sex. The truth is I once told him to his face that he was a Ha Valentine. Get to the end of this. Don't you see lieutenant on Forrester. decided he was through a Canadian. He held the whip hand the threat to expose the hopes of young Ted Copeland the promising new writer. Richard Canadian. You killed forester and in a way that would place all of suspicion on agreements. I didn't yeah. That's exactly the way it happened. I thank you Mr Pattern. Believe me Mrs Williston. I'm vegetal of course you know you're lying on year. What's this and I have an the idea that I won't be the one to prove that? Wait a minute. Are you trying to say. She didn't kill Farzaneh. She said so herself. Thank you for being a practical man. Tennis no no. This is one time. I'm going to stand on my own. Mother Ken he Joe Forrester Valentine describing what you had to come and join for such a long long time doing had had you have your whole life. I'm sorry I had to do it the way I did but I had a feeling he told the truth. We saw the gilding placed on you. I knew how much I love you. I saw three over all. I do and by scandal about the book it was going to ruin. Not only need you. That's why killing Sexy rematch would never in a million years poisoning anybody. When he knows he's authority in view? And you figured it had to be either Koneohe. What made you decide? It was the sun. Why Angel don't you remember when I was letting the birthday cake? Cornelia handed me the lighter. He was standing right next to me yards away from forced. You can keep your genius Badge Mr. What are you trying to do trip over you so now? It's just as Don John Yielded. Isn't there incidently my fine friend. I'm putting the cost of a new pair of shoes on the office expense accounts. Oh shakeout girlish superstition. Never Knock anybody unconscious twice with the same shoes next week. At this time we pick up George Valentine on an out of town unmet which begins on a train. That's just ballooned to Sharon. Tail Kinda cold out platform check. What I'm getting off as soon as the train stops get now here Jack? Let me thinking please. What is broken bottle? I don't like this is the blood that's not going to be my blood. Get off happy. Landing check stay on a journey John Gale and night's adventure unsure of George. Valentine has been brought to you by standard of California on behalf of Independent Chevron gas stations and standards stations throughout the West. Let George do it stars Robert. Robert Bailey has george with France Robinson roofing while they may her ears Lieutenant Riley. The night story was written by David. Victor Herbert Little Junior and directed by Don Clark. You also heard in the past where Jeanette Nolan Cornelia Roland. Morris has Kopplin Junius Matthews is Barry Howard as far as Louis Van Ruben as we met and route parrot as a scrub woman. 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Yeah as over across the slope of the moment they're getting the bodies out of what's left of the plane. I think we had already guessed it was an explosion. Alright dynamite in the baggage compartment probably put on boarding a piece of luggage figures Ron something down here in the city along those same. Lions Ryan's Liamine. The ground crew members one of the baggage handlers acting stage before flight six took off last night. A man named Ramirez. What do you mean? Strange range had one sort case it. He wouldn't let any other handles touch or did I just before takeoff. You know anything about Tigers Mac. I'm about to tangle with one Tonight and every Weekday Night Bob Bailey and the transcribed adventures of the man with the action packed. Expense Account America's fabulous freelance insurance investigators yours truly johnny dollar from special investigator Johnny Dollar Location Mexico City to the Home Office Guarantee Transport Insurance Company. Hartford Connecticut assignment. Don't the flight six matter. Expense account continued. I was taking Gino. Romero's word for it that the girl who was a tiger his word my own instincts. At first glance. She seemed soft shy lovely. Then you sensed a wildness about her kind of suppress violence. That brought up short. Made you stop and reappraisal. He leaned against a tree watching the bodies of the plane. Crash victims being carried down the slope in place in the army jeep with no sign of emotion on her face cool detached. She had no reason to be here and I wonder why she was the only way I knew we'll find out what's do Oscar. Yes what is it. Your marveled terrence heavily. That's right and I have not met you somewhere before all but but you're about to y name is Johnny dollar an investigator for an insurance company in the state. That might be very interesting work sometimes on some jobs other times it's only dirty and disgusting gusting like this time for instance. We all have our problems. Maybe I can help you with yours Mr will you. I'm not in the mood as me. I think that seeing ten bodies picked up and hauled away out of put anyone in a gay carefree move. Look beat it. You came out here sightseeing. Didn't you twenty miles from town so you must like this kind of thing I had friends is on that plane Mr Dalla so did a lot of other people but maybe not as good friends as you. I don't know what you're talking about and I don't care you h Palmer and Jim rourke where those your friends must turn. Let's get this straight. I'm not interested in playing footsie's or any other game you have in mind. You're wasting your time buster. Now get going wait a minute. Maybe you've got the wrong idea. This isn't just a social chat. Now you want to help me with my problem. Just one problem wondering how you're going to spend that fifty thousand dollars but yeah. That's a fair sized chunk doc. Money to drop right out of the sky talking about what fifty thousand dollars a money you'll get from the deaths of you two friends Palmer and rook. What do you mean so? Tell me you with them at the the airport last night when flights six took off. Yes I y you must have known that they both took out flight policies and that both of them named you as beneficiary. No No I. I didn't know I wasn't with them exactly based not up until takeoff than you claim this is all just a big surprise. Of course I didn't know a thing about it. It's just liked them. It's what they do. Why did you come out here to the reckless turns? I don't know Ed and Jim when my friends and I don't know why I came because I brought her Mr Nobel but I didn't bring her here to be pushed around by some morbid curiosity. No please this is Johnny Dollar Bill. He's an insurance investigator. They'll blatant star along. It was asking me some questions why you add in gem both took out insurance policies in my name. Why Flight Accident Policies Fifty thousand dollars word allows the blakely? You said Miss Terence's here because you brought her. I wonder if you tell me why you're here. I don't another any of your business. Sometimes I make things and sometime you may get your teeth knocked out there in pretty solid blatantly. Yeah well maybe. I'll stop sorry mobile APP common. Kim rival who builds business partners. What business to blakely engineering? We're willing some roads around Mexico City. How many partners just the three of you in? Just that's right. Dollar business belongs to me now. What about it? Nothing about it. Congratulations one more stop it. Let's go role model. I've got to get back to wait for them. If the truck I'll be there in a few minutes searches a dollar just one thing. Don't push me Blakely Glee. Ten people died over there on that hillside last night they were murdered. I intend to find out who did it and takes pushing to find out. Then I'll push you around. Yeah you probably will this thing hit bill pretty hard Mr Elliot have to make allowances along have been on a couple of Mon bomber rourke the same. It's nothing serious. Nothing romantic. If that's what you're thinking. It was all just for fun. was that all it was on this I oh man always claim to be serious. That's only part of the game. What else do you do? Ms Terrence beside play the game at all I'm a wealthy orphan is two Dahlie and my only career is drifting around the world playing the game. I'm ornamental irresponsible and rather useless. Maybe not entirely useless. Just being ornamental has has some importance in this world. So you play to now. I meant it. I guess I was pretty obnoxious when you spoke to me while ago I suppose I ask for it. I'm staying at the hotel. Tell Montecasino I'd like see again. I could teach you the game johnny very attractive offer outside of business hours. But do you think I'm mixed up in this. No I'm not sure well think about it. Johnny in calm me at my hotel Monte Cassino. That's where the Lagos's staying having to know him Komo yes of course. Why one of the passages killing lane was his wife? Didn't you know I sat named Lago said I. I didn't even know he had a wife another just for fun. I think you've got some wrong ideas about me. Johnny come see me enough straighten them out for you and something else. You'll find it out anyway so I may as well tell you. Tell me what I had reservations on flight. Six to was going over to van for the weekend. I canceled out at the last minute. I see. Maybe that's why I came out here to see for myself. I'm not afraid of death. I've tempted to twenty times to be but it does fascinate me. I stood there. Watching thinking could have been me being carried down that slow except the luck. DOC Why did you cancel out at the last minute. I was talked out of making the trip by Home Bill. Blakeley I watched swing down the slope live wrecks and lovely a strange girl of an era of aloneness abetter. Now that I felt would be whether even in the crowd crowd strange but also compelling exciting. She might be involved she might not. I didn't know I was sure of one thing. In either case I was going to see her again later. Gino Romero and I were heading back to the city and the government jeep leaving behind us the wrecked plane the crush trees and the lonely slow among later interested in your yeah I founder of interest. Yeah she's doing crazy. Things Better Devon floating with the is looking for danger lying the game she calls it. She's a your blaney game. Last thin persons are not be playing a game now anymore arts. Alright Gino and not that much gender spell. She's Gillian Anyway. I'll turn it on just as quick as the next one but I didn't know they don't thinks thinks she's been if he's not the thing she will do and she doesn't need the money she's very rich. You know that everybody says well. That's what I mean. It's worth checking in to see. But I still do nothing. She will do such a thing. It is terrible and she's too beautiful. Maybe I ought to give you the advice. You know before the beauty of a woman senior. We are all as brothers like senior blakely. I see he were look very disturbing. He did get a little hot under the counter. What do you know about him genome? Almost nothing is come here for three months now making the road and his partners Palmer and Rourke were killed in a plane crash. What do you know about them? They same nothing. They all arrive together. Always they work together play together then. Along on came marvel terrence drew they would rival for the data and then he's one thing was that they have the building for the machinery outside outside the city. Where House you call it? What about it a lease warehouse? They keep much dynamite Gino dropping my hotel. Del Prado Avenida. Juarez I changed clothes cleaned up. Sent some telegrams to the states at about that time Mac macklin phoned up from downstairs and asked me to join them in the bar. Expense Account Item Three sixteen dollars and forty cents drinks and dinner with a chief inspector of the Federal Department of Civil Air Transport and then some more drinks. It's been here seven years. Johnny like you feel at home here. I like the paper then. Their way of Life Chhaya again snow piling up along the loop the wind ripping off the lake crazy little joins along Baker street only of their last nineteen thirty two in high. And you're about do why don't you take a couple of weeks and fly up their own too much water under the bridge Johnny. Too many little walls here and there the word since thirty two. I'm McLean was flying in on one side or the other. Whatever where you know? Could Sam frowns on that kind of thing Johnny. So we've gotTA I saw an understanding I stay the heck away and he forgets about high see. I've got no complaints actually. I'm doing all right here but sometimes I sure do get homesick. The Old Town of course. It's probably changed so much. Oh Yeah yes been makes an Asian elephant. Thanks a global team. Hello Yeah what all right. We'll have you told a federal police videos. We just lost our best angle. Johnny what do you mean that baggage handler. The one I figured sip the dynamite on board the plane. The boys just no located edited is throat has been cut. And now here's our star to tell you about tomorrow's rose intriguing episode of this week store tomorrow. A bereaved relative lies a frustrated lover. Comes up fighting and a lovely lady in the case just vanishes join us. Won't you yours truly Johnny Dollar. Uh Yours Truly Johnny dollar starring. Bob Bailey is transcribed in Hollywood they were written by Les Crutchfield. It is produced and directed by Jack. Johnstone be sure to join us tomorrow night. Same time and station for the next exciting episode of Love Yours. 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Did you hear any anecdotal tales of how Liberty Forum was e- well they moved to a different sprint hotel. You're referring to the Free State projects yearly wintertime convention. That happened over the weekend in Manchester New Hampshire and it was at a new to hotel this year so it was actually in its fourth hotel. They they moved it to near the airport instead of downtown Manchester so the hotel that they had added in this time was arguably a better venue because I mean the the one that they used to have it in in downtown. Manchester is a fine venue. It's the largest convention you mentioned center and all of new New Hampshire but it was just too big for the Liberty Forum. The Liberty Forum is not the size that it once was it used to be an event that attracted several hundred people. You know. Of course it's peak was when Ron Paul spoke in like two thousand eight or two thousand nine and forget what year it was but I mean then. They needed a huge venue. But now it's just not like that anymore and it's it's actually sad what's happened to to liberty for me and I'm I'm not saying it's a bad event. It's I'm sure it's still fine. Event in its own right is just for whatever reason it doesn't attract the and this what people tell me right like I haven't been in four years right right. You can't give any first hand knowledge right but what people tell me. Is that the bulk of the attendees. Now our New Hampshire locals meaning that the people who have maybe migrated it here because of the Free State Project That are attending this event. And it didn't used to be that way. It used to be the bulk of the attendees. Were from outside of New Hampshire. Sure and so not only are the numbers down. So I've heard that it's no more than a couple of hundred people. Not only the numbers down but the because he eastern check like five to eight hundred so it's way down compared to what it used to be. I heard it was as low as like just over one hundred last year. But you know people don't know they don't release those numbers number so it's just what it's just what people look around and see although I can say just you know as as a musician. There's nothing worse than book and a show at a place that's bigger than your raw. Aw Yeah it looks empty like we did a CD release show at a place that held. I don't know man probably like could've held a thousand or something and people showed up. It was you you know and like you could tell we had a videographer doing some video stuff for us and make it just looked empty right and so that that was I think a smart move on their part to move to this new hotel because the area they have for conventions is smaller so a smaller amount of attendees. He's looks better in a smaller space. So they made that that move with good move for them also. The other hotel is not in the heart of Manchester. It's sort of on the outskirts by the airport. So the property is it's just a larger property. Meaning there's more parking the other location. It was like you had to get into a parking garage and then get your parking validated here at the hotel. Just Park where you need to park right. You're good to go so there's plenty of space to kind of spread out and it wasn't his cramped but you were invited to a thing that was out in the area right all. XFL Alternatives Expo. which is the sort of fork from The Liberty Forum it it was created in two thousand and seven at the First Liberty Forum. You're always on the cutting edge of like the new stuff. Right is not new though. It's all but I mean well. You know the forks and all that kind of stuff compared to like a regular Joe Listening to the show tonight you know you're certainly on the edge of stuff. I guess I mean they. They know who we are. We interviewing the all texts folks. Oh folks for years Because what happened was in two thousand and seven. We told this. No Jackson make the founder told the story on on free. Talk live on Saturday but just to sum it it up. He was trying he was on the Planning Board for for the first liberty form in two thousand seven and they. They wouldn't let him put the topics that he wanted had to put in about various different alternatives whether it be like alternative medicine or alternative currency or whatever different things. They wouldn't let him do who all the topics he wanted or they gave him very limited amount of time to like shoehorn. Four topics in an hour or something like that right so it wasn't what he wanted to see happen and so rather than like like fighting bag and Cajole with the board members he was just like well. I'm just GONNA do my own thing and He rented a couple of hotel rooms in the same hotel L. and just opened up his hotel rooms and said you know we're having speakers up here. I love that attitude. I I run into people all the time that are in the midst of doing things themselves. Or maybe they're involved evolved with the thing and and you know they complain about how difficult it is to you. Know work with you know X. Vendor or organization to do what is they want to do and so few people like just try to you know well all right. I'll just go do my own thing. which is what should happen? In a line of cases in my opinion sure and I think that that's unique to well not unique but at least more frequent to liberty minded people right probably is and and that's hopefully because people who are liberty minded are more independent They're more likely to strike out on their own if they don't like something because it's a lot easier to just complain. Yeah I mean it's a lot easier to say well so and so well let me do you know or whatever. Oh this board there so bad blah blah blah. They're running this event into the ground. Yeah just complain and complain but he went and did his own thing. And and that takes some effort and it's amazing like how well how effective it was considering this year. considering it was literally thrown together two weeks in advance. I mean he came to me and said hey you know are you guys interested in in sponsoring the event and I said well sponsored on behalf of Fork Vest da Party and so I've through some some money and on behalf of forecast because there is no official forecast anything so anybody who wants to. Can you know sponsor something on behalf of what I love that too and And so I did that. We got the hotel room room which hadn't been booked. There had been no promotion whatsoever for because it hadn't been booked there but there was no schedule and dude through together a schedule of of speakers an and that came together nice as it usually happens somebody cancelled right. Likes and always happens. But that's okay like he came to me and say hey so and so cancelled. Can you Can you fill villains. Yeah sure so. I talked about the gold back. Nice Oh what an excellent topic to a did you film it. No I didn't. I didn't come prepared to do that. I mean I always have my camera with me but I didn't have a tripod and I did. It didn't happen so you had to be there. Well sorry I couldn't make it out there A Jew but I was expecting to have both nobody who is supposed to be here with US tonight And and Aria out there repin happen fork fast at the liberty form. Because I'm not allowed to be there. Yeah and both of them turned up sick the the day we were supposed to leave so I hope it's not like corona virus or something like an and technically even though nobody isn't here nobody is here. Technically no no one is nobody see. Hopefully nobody will be nobody. Nobody see very soon I love the word play on that. I'm so glad he changed his name. It's so much fun. It is fun and it is going to be a lot of fun this year ear when he actually finally gets to file for the office because yeah you know it's still early. That doesn't happen till June. So by the time fork fest comes around. He will be the officially campaigning as a candidate for governor named nobody. That's which is very excited so great. It's just great of really good Response from people to like. He'll he's got stories that I'm sure he could regale us with Of encountering folks at like a bar or a store or whatever and when you know when he says what his name is like Hayden run for mayor of key so even though nobody even though no one actually goes in votes in municipal elections. They still I heard about him. They got the news. Welcome thank you speak of the devil. P Your ears must've been burning. I Yeah Yeah a little bit nice. We were just talking about how how much fun we have with the word play of nobody. Yeah Yeah it's always. It's always fun. 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Please help support our international channels at Patriotic Dollar N.. DOT NFL that's Patriot L.. Dot FM. Yes this is free talk live live coming to you. Live from our keene New Hampshire Studios. We're here to talk about whatever you want. Our toll free number of course is eight five five four fifty three. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three in the studio tonight. It's myself the captain and I mean and nobody and and we're talking about some stuff. We were making fun of The word play and how much mileage we nobody's name so cool really love of that. I wanted to tell you earlier in this week at my vote. Nobody signs still is in my yard suite. That has stolen it you. Nobody's stolen it. Nobody's kicked it over. Seal is unsigned why nobody would. But somebody might true. So somebody didn't steal it. Refreshing rushing is say yes and so yeah. I'm I'm pretty pleased about that being that You know it's not really my yard. I don't own the property and your landlord hasn't had a problem with it. None of your the other tenants there and and what I like about it is. It doesn't specify what nobody is running for. Sure right so in could be vote. Nobody for whatever right you know maybe your classes voting for class president. You know you're in the eighth grade or something right and somebody writes in nobody right and you win. Class President the the eighth grade team Middle School. Well all the government jobs out there. I can't think of a single one that nobody shouldn't do indeed very very nice nobody. Are you like everybody else. When it comes to being creeped out by some of the ads your served up as a result of you know searching urging social media or Google and facebook and all that kind of crap I don't I don't generally have Avenue issue with it. I don't keep a lot of. I don't have an Alexa Browser settings settings that are very restrictive do the incognito mode and I blog brain browser. I don't oh US brave. Okay but I do have some plug INS in my chrome I. I do have an adobe not say. Don't use brave. It's not the browser houser. I usually I use most commonly I do have it and I do use it because as I understand it. That is a chrome offshoot. That has all the blocking stuff built right into it and I got a little better because when it first started it was Kinda Janke on a few things like didn't look right in certain certain websites but I think they've improved it. I I think Probably the the three of us here tonight any way are probably above average Internet nerds when it comes to like you know privacy and your browser or you know how to work around being tracked or eliminate trackers and it doesn't creep me out either to answer your question from my perspective. It's like that's just the way a things are with you know and you can't blame advertisers for wanting to target people that are better prospects right. So there's that But the weird thing is like whenever I noticed the ads that are being fed to me. It's usually because I already went and bought something from a place have you have you had that happen happen. Where like like? There's a place called mono price where I get cables Yup So I go and I order network cables or audio cables or whatever they they sell them dirt cheap and they're actually pretty good quality early and then after I go and I order something for Mono Price I notice. I'm getting ADS Vermont. Oh price everywhere. I go and it's like well. I already bought from you advertisers take. It's not what pisses me off about. That kind of thing is like I bought a twenty eight channels snake and because cable. It's that's a cable for those of you don't no no not an actual snake not eating critters or anything but And then I don't know I paid fifty bucks for it or whatever and then after I buy it I get an ad for like another another one same quality same brand for like forty bucks and I'm like Oh you from different places from a different okay different Provider right so and what I find. The part that creeps me out is that because I'm probably above average when it comes to turn and all the stuff off and you know no having the right plug ins and all that kind of stuff is I generally avoid most of you know this kind of thing where people like. It's like magic right when something happens and they get advertised thing that they've been talking about recently or whatever it happens to me when I'm around other people right and by other people I'm GonNa say like like people who aren't as tech savvy as I am right so say okay Google to their phone. Yes yes so. If I'm amongst a crowd of people say Okay I don't know in a bar and a gathering in a grocery store and a conversation ensues amongst multiple people and you're talking about one subject. Let's say we're talking about. I don't know furniture right and so having this conversation you know got a couple of cocktails emmy met the borrower talking about yeah. I bought a new SOFA from hero. Yeah I like leather or no. No I liked the CARINTHIAN. The in you know Blah Blah Blah. I like postmodern style an island the classical and all this kind of stuff then all of a sudden like within I don't know it could be minutes could could be hours could be days all of a sudden I'm getting bombarded with furniture ads in in the social media and stuff. That's when it gets creepiest when it's when you know that it must have been listening when it was listening to other people listening to me. And somehow they knew still advertise to me even though I've got all my tech stuff. Dial in to prevent that kind of thing from happening phone is not preventing that from happening. Well okay I mean to you yeah. There are some strange strange games. You can play with that sort of thing. There's a guy Performance artists he calls it. Performance performance art and apparently he wanders around his town with a little red wagon full of phones all of which are turns on and causes. Google maps is to think there are traffic jams. Yes and I love this guy. How did he decide to start doing doing that? I don't know I don't know I just. I saw very brief some. It was even mentioned very briefly but I haven't looked looked. Looked him up to to find out more yet. Well I stumbled upon an article that talks about this very thing earlier and this is from uh-huh vox dot com from there recode section. Stop me if you've heard this before you go to a store browse it's wears consider or even to make a purchase. Then you go home only to find a bunch of ads for from that very store or perhaps the very item you bought following you around the internet or maybe you. You have several emails from that store filling your inbox urging you to buy more stuff. How did your offline shopping habits? Make it into your online life. Well it turns out those brick and mortar stores are getting as good at tracking you as their online rivals and it all starts with your obviously obviously through your mobile device that you have on you at all all times including as you walk past or through store businesses can potentially see which of their products you prefer which websites you visit demographic information like your gender your age your location and much more and they have the ability to do some of these things without asking for your consent or telling you what they're doing at all now that's interesting to me that they would would be able to see demographic information about you right Wondering how they gather that is that something like facebook is providing for instance. Where's that coming from facebook? Google we'll because I don't have you know I don't think Google knows my age necessarily like I don't think that that's in there right and I all admitted that information The article does get into how and will l. of course talk about more of that. Coming up You know do you find it creepy when you know you're being advertised to Simply by going and visiting a store four and then you see that Ed has that happened to. Let's talk thoughts. We'll talk about it coming up. Eight fifty five four hundred fifty free. This is free talk live. BITCOIN DOT COM has launched a trading platform at local dump BITCOIN DOT com allowing you to buy or sell bitcoin cash. Ashby a dozens of payment methods. Like Pay Pal then Mo bank deposit remittances or meeting in person with cash. There are no idea requirements to sign up for and use the site and all communications occasions between buyers and sellers are encrypted finally global trading platform. 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You're wandering through and it's almost as if there's some creepy person following you around every store you go to watching you. What what stores he going into? He's going into the easy street records. Is he going into. Victoria's secret is he going into radio shack. These are all people we'll go to malls. Yeah maybe more anyway they still have barely. It's a dying business but yes you're right. There are still still physical stores and the stories telling us about is that they're watching you watching you via your phone and here's what you should know before you download a stores APP or log into the free WIFI offered at the mall or any other retail establishment of what you're really opting into when you use free Wifi in the stores mobile apps these days many retailers offer free in store WIFI and shopping APPs which is convenient very convenient and also I you know. I've used the Wi fi at Walmart before. I don't have an unlimited data plan on my phone so I like to Wi fi hops. You know if I'm out and about doing stuff. Yeah what's your Wifi. What's your password? And then whenever never I go to those places again. My phone saves it. Connect life is good. Well in some cases like at Walmart cell phone signal may not even make it through the building building. So that's true. Yeah yes steel building is a great big Faraday cage. Yeah sure enough so free Wifi. It can be convenient way to access the Internet without using your cell phone's data plan. We talked about that depending on your carry a plan. You may be preserving precious resource mobile APPs often offer users users exclusive deals on a business products or allow them to order items before they set foot in the store. Have you guys ever done an APP for a store. Have you ever installed one of those. No not for a store specific not either. I have used in start here in town because I let you order groceries car and so getting to and from the grocery store I had to use like Uber ride or whatever and so I was like Oh yeah ah let's see what they have you know online enough Insta- cart was available here. I was able to get from a variety of grocery stores. And they just deliver your groceries is it. There's a fee of course but it amounted to ten or twelve bucks per trip and so I just do my shopping once a week or so and some person would show up at my door with my groceries and it was pretty great. That seems pretty great. I've never used the service but it's it's tantalizing. I mean at ten or twelve bucks. That's probably less than what you'd pay Cabbie to get you there and back indeed. Yeah I like the first time I tried to go grocery shopping. I did an Uber and Uber is not as popular here as it is in say a big city and so the way like a half hour for the guy you know whoever the next ride and then go to the place and then like Oh. Do you want me to wait for you or no. I'll just get NEWBURGH and that was a bad India because you go shopping and takes half hour and then you gotta wait another half hour for up to take you back and then you know you gotta tip and all that kind of stuff so it definitely was a much more financial economic a better decision for me to do the INSTA- carts so with that but I did get like more ads for stuff using using the instant cart APP on my phone. I found that I was getting advertised. Stuff within the APP itself right store specials and all that kind of stuff which was great because like they see what I'm buying they go. Oh Hey special. This week's now and you might have liked it. Maybe you did but you might not be aware of what you might be giving away when you take. They could vantage of these services by using them. You've also opt to opted into what's called active tracking you know in terms of service. You agreed to probably correct that you didn't really in writing. I know I didn't usually can only access in store Wi fi through what's called a captive portal. This is the page that pops up when you first try to connect usually usually asks you to submit personal information like an email address and I do something like you can just type in. Yeah nobody one-two-three at Hotmail DOT COM. Whatever no offense nobody? Hey I started doing that before. I knew you so blame it on me through. I've done this all your spam although although you could call it premarketing getting right like I was. I was talking about nobody before. Nobody was anybody who are the great thing about being nobody. Nobody has great name recognition through. Nobody's sure ask anybody who speaks English. And they've heard my name and then agreed to terms and conditions before letting you access the Internet so we talked about that thing is when you log into Wifi through businesses captive portal. You aren't just giving the business. Whatever personal information you submitted at the portal page? You're also attaching that information to a set of data. The store collects from you. And you're granting the store permission to use that data in ways you may not realize and if you use the social media profile like facebook spoke to log into the service you may have given the business everything from your full name to your employer etcetera and saw like any of those social media accounts if you log into. I don't don't know when facebook became sort of the passport of the Internet. But I mean that's that's to me is like I don't know why you would ever log into anything using facebook. Well all the reason. Why is because it's convenient for people? I mean they see you go to a new website. It says you will create a new account or do you just want to use your existing facebook or Google legal or whatever and and for most people that works fine until they get banned from facebook. Then what happens. Then how do you get back back into the account that you created on that other website. You don't have credentials anymore right. It's gone. I have no idea what you do because I don't use these things in the same way. Most people do right. I'm very limited about how I actually use and the reason I use it is because they don't get anything from facebook that I wouldn't have to enter onto a forum to get an account on their site anyway so the only the difference is I haven't created a new copy of it I've just given them. What programmers call a pointer to the copy that already existed? And but you don't have as much control over that that's yeah you don't have to kill your account and you can't I would i. I would certainly never use it for anything important important but there are times when they'll ask me to do log in or sign line up and if I can't do it with my facebook account I just feel like it's not worth filling out another form so I think the other thing. Here's I mean. My facebook account is widely published. So you know I mean I run. I run public pages and I've had God I have my facebook account posted on the elect. NOBODY DOT COM website. NOBODY DOT COM. That sounds interesting so so so I guess basically anything that to me anything. That's on facebook. I might as well have painted wanted on the outside of my house. So That's how I regard it and because I regarded as a as most as a purely I by publicly published set of data. I don't worry about who has it but I don't keep the facebook spoke APP on my phone. Good choice so they don't know what stores I'm going to. We're going to talk about more of this and how you know what else goes into this Here on free talk. 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That's offered that business business and then and then cascade that with using facebook to log in any of these types of services and we're just sort of digging into what kind of information does the retailer have on you at that point. Well the thing you have to remember also I was thinking about this over the break. FACEBOOK facebook sells information right. They certainly do so. Why wouldn't they buy information to fill in the blanks? You don't have their APP APP installed but maybe you have somebody else's APP installed well if that information is out with their then it's going to be aggregated into into a database some win and so then it gets published two and then it can and be combined to complete the Datus Complete the database. Right so they build a picture based on smaller pieces of information formation scattered throughout their companies out out there. Although I don't know who they are that that's their business. They buy every bite of data that they can buy and sell it back combined with other data absolutely. Yeah now The article goes on for instance. Your Wifi connection can give stores location information as specific as how much time you spent staring longingly mainly at those shoes you cant afford before giving up and heading for the clearance rack. I don't know about you but luckily they probably don't know if you were thinking if you were staring tearing longingly at them or thinking. Those are the ugliest shoes I've ever seen. I can't believe somebody made shoes like that. which is almost is infinitely improbable if you're male but that's true but fact the fact that you were there for a while does communicate something? Oh yeah there's there's definitely data that could could communicate that you're indecisive about the things you were looking at whether you could afford it or not as another question like if I go go to a grocery store and stand at the end cap. That's one of these displays at the end of the end caps. That's a big giant display of beer. Odds are I'm a fan of beer now now they know that You know or they've done I really crappy job of building their end cap display. And I'm just being a critic right well and and that's one reason I've experimented with not carrying my phone unless I have some reason to or leaving it in the car and I don't have to have my phone on me every moment. Nothing is going to happen. Almost certainly that will require my attention in the next ten minutes as a result of this article. And it'll get into the question that you like. How wow right like how does all of this sort of what's the Lynch Pin and this article will get into sort of the key if you will the the magic bullet if there is one it'll get into it but as a result of me reading this article I'm going to get one of those fair day bags like I'm like yeah? I'm just a little creeped out about it and like turning earning. Your phone doesn't always mean your phone off especially these ones where you can't even take the battery out. It was doing a drug a drug deal back in the day. When I did that sort of thing I would not only turn my phone off off but also take the battery physically out of it Now even that is not completely reliable. Because it's quite it would not be difficult. Technically to have a low power device in the phone recording information so that as soon as you put the battery Gary Back in it can be transmitted and that could be done by a battery. So tiny that you don't know about it or you think it's just a big capacitor on the board right or the phone manufacturer installs a backup battery quote unquote but that still functions as a hard battery even when you pop. Oh Yeah if you have a bad backup backup battery taking taking the battery out won't solve your problem even if you don't it might not solve your problem. of Faraday bag. We'll probably solve solve your problem. I mean you'd need to test it and make sure Out of the only hesitation hesitation day bags a lot. A double is it depends on how much influence the government has had on on technology manufacturers. Because it would not be impossible if your day bag was man was is marginal for the phone to have been programmed to every two days. If it hasn't heard from anybody but it's turned on send an extra extra hive string signal trying to get somebody anybody at least tell the MSA where you are stats. That's that's what scares me. I'm not scared of facebook. Google and I'm not scared of advertising. I'm scared of the government and for good unreason and I want him not paranoia when when they've really already come and gotten you. I want to be very clear that I'm with you on that in and you to like I don't mind signed being advertised to you. Know I don't mind if I agree to something even if I'm the layman who doesn't read the terms and conditions under whatever girls girls girls except except right You know the idea is with anything in the free market you can opt out. Well I've opted in. I can opt out right but I want everybody the our listeners specifically to keep in mind that we talk about here all the information that these stores have on you guess who else can get it because of the stores can get it you know damn well the government can get it and they don't even need a warrant to do so so yeah stores will know which websites you browsed while you were connected to their service and they can install cookies cookies on your browser to track you around the Internet long after you've left the store now. I know you guys probably have the thing. Where when you close your browser deletes all the cookies and that kind of thing? I got got that Privacy Black Badger which is a nice thing which is an extension. What does that too? It shuts down trackers is on websites so it recognized if it doesn't act by having a database of these things that it consults which you can get around if it's keep seeing the same plug in on different sites if it sees it like three times it's like yeah I'm shutting this zing down and so and so that's that's a very nice feature because you don't have to trust them to update a database this so that's that's very handy They can see which sites you're connecting to win and use that information to build a profile about your behavior of Bennett ciphers last name ciphers. Then it's safer as a technologist for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. He must have changed that name. That CAMPA could not possibly Bennett ciphers. Cyp Browsing history can be used to guess at demographics age age income race religion political leaning this data can be used to target ads or sold to data brokers combined with other data streams. So we were talking about that about how other businesses is just sell information. Actually take this information. They buy more information they put it together and they form a bigger picture. Your offline activities in a store or are important to retailers can send that data to services like live ramp to match it with your online identity allowing retailers to place ads for those shoes that you couldn't afford all over the Internet if you're using a businesses mobile APP you're giving it even more information targets APP. Courage as users to provide personal information about themselves like shopping lists and scan item Barcode to see if there's any deal so it's a whole bunch of information that you're you're giving away that could be accessed by people you don't want it to be accessed by but it could get better deals certainly good more coming up. Free Talk Live eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom. FREETALKLIVE DOT COM. 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