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BMW Reveal i4 and iX Details | 18 Mar 2021

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BMW Reveal i4 and iX Details | 18 Mar 2021

"Coming up on show one zero two five. Bmw reveal not one but two cars to talk about the iphone. The i x and the mini brown goes all electric stick around. I'll give you the details on the podcast today. We're talking about the us. Arrival of the i four and the m g five state goes to europe. Well good morning inaugu evening wherever you're listening in the world welcomes weaving news. Daily thursday eighteenth of march miami's mawson through every story. So you don't have to a breaking news. The uk government over nights with no warning just reduced the plug in grow. That's the free money off cars. Nothing to do with taxes or anything like that. It was three thousand now two and a half and also they've this is the most significant thing they have regina the threshold from fifty thousand pounds. R.i.p down to thirty five thousand pounds recommended retail price. And so that is a bit of a shock news to anyone that sells for more than that and was currently giving three thousand pounds off a call. So most of the co-owners niro's ide- four sco to any ac all of the tesla range. The entire tesla range gets three thousand pounds more expensive. I imagine unless they soak up some of the different so full details. That's just breaking news coming on tomorrow's podcast with reaction and some more considered thought rather than my first impressions. Let's start with our story about the bmw. I foy pro. Sports saloon not across iva shouted from the rooftops. It's not an suv. we like it. The i four is a proper sports. Coupet exactly what. I would like because i didn't want to cross iva. I want an suv. But that's subjective. Actually most people do these days. The ifo uses the firm's fifth-generation drive technology the motors and batteries powered by eighty kilowatt hour battery. Pack mounted low in the counts. Chassis uses a platform which is modular will be used for both their fossils stuff and electric. Bmw says then new system like the battery and the motors together has been designed to be more lightweight tipping the scales the whole system of five hundred and fifty kilograms allowing the i four to go nor to sixty two. That's north one hundred kilometers in four seconds and top speed limited one hundred and twenty four miles now because really. How do you want to go. I coating tool to express the iphone electric platform features. Bmw's latest charging technology. Much like the audi on the bmw. I four will support rapid charging up to one hundred fifty kilowatts. Look as i always say. The key is the curve. It's not about the peaks paid. It's not it's not what you call. It's what you do with it. So it's all well and good. Having a hundred and fifty kilowatt peak charge right to hit nibble nibble and then back away from it or if you can hold that for the entire charge to fifty sixty percent. That's that's a different ballgame right so the new bmw four needs to have great battery technology to match. What's out there at the minute in pretty normal family. Cars like the volkswagen. id four. That has an eight kilowatt hour battery. Pack it charges a peak grade of one hundred and twenty-five but plug into a fast enough charger and it will maintain that charge speed of one hundred and twenty five kilowatts all the way through till like thirty thirty five percent and slowly tapers down on percent two percent. Just just goes down a little bit each time by killer. Also something like The hyundai kia cars. They have big steps down in charge. Speed the mac. E i think is pretty terrible for it gets to eighty percent full and it just like just shuts off and goes down to a really slow charged me. How batteries operate in the real world as you gradually increasing the voltage you want to gradually reduce the apps that you shoving into them and the. Id does that really well. At the id full and so we'll look into for bmw to have great battery technology and not just the big speed but also how you put it into the car because if you're doing a road trip and you turn up with five percent of your battery on a nice fast charger and you plug in for you. Know twenty minutes. You're going to be eighty percent full on a really good charging car. And you shouldn't really be dc fast charging more than eighty percent. Anyway get back in the cockpit back on the road anyway. Back to the bmw. I four also applaud compares it to the concept version of two thousand sixteen. Yes the colossal grill remains it's controversial. Bmw told also blog a stands by the grill. Look yet like my impression of that is the bmw. Kidney grille has being on the racing car since forever one hundred years or whatever so That's not going anywhere over if you the bmw grill. Don't by one of the grill. Now on the iphone is coveted. It's not. It's not there to suck air to combust oxygen. It's it's simply to be a brand styling thing but it's closed off it's pretty slippery in terms of arrow it's good for and it houses the camera and the sensors and things like that but it has got because this is a platform that can be used for. Piston causes well. It has gone a long bonnet and that is something that you can't get away from because you just don't need it on a pure electric car. The fastback like roof hasn't changed from the concept car. Bmw chose not to release full technical specifications. Of the i four noting that have several versions three hundred miles on a charge and rear wheel drive all wheel drive nor to sixty four seconds like say five hundred and thirty horsepower on that drive train and that might be the m badged version. But that's me speculating. They didn't say that given the house layout on the team who developed an is making it. We might reasonably assume that's going to be a great driving. Machine says top gear rather optimistically. I think ceo oliver zips up. It wasn't easy decision to bring out the i four and announce it three months earlier ahead of schedule because it goes on sale in germany. This autumn sources. I have site august now. Given how much he shares with the full series built on the same production line at the company's historic munich plumps in dade will be rolling down the same line as fossil gablers as well. Mike if that will you will. Steal of the vw is going about that business. They are creating dedicated. Electric production lines. Bmw saying the during this transition transition phase they will make all the calls Together on the same line you know. Hey it's not my money and bmw's not my company's viking run that place the way they safe see fit definitely has added complexity. If you're gonna do that though. The plot has particular significance as right at the foot of the company's headquarters tower that famous tower of the heart of bmw. Piston heads seem to have some more accurate range figures than others quoted v The i four will have three hundred sixty six miles of range site on. The wwl's ep test cycle couldn't find that number anywhere else. The four is a proper grand coupet launch. Later this year and we're looking forward to the badge diversion as well Rear wheel drive all wheel. Drive either way. It's going to have to be a great driving machine if it's coming from bmw. It's later than i think. Some would like they've got to come out of the gates with a Devi great tech fifth generation of their technology. Look like smashed it with the i three smashed it with the i eight and they lost their way and i really won't bmw to come back strong and be like right haze the i four cracking cal greatbatch reset great charging and and really importantly great software. Integration is really really important with a car like this that they get the software right that is not the team the used to doing a combustion software or they buy bits of in. You know a great even being released at the end of twenty twenty one has to be fully integrated and that is things like finding charging spaces knowing how quick you konczal charges. Yes that is a frustration of mine with a car like the vw. Id four find on it to tell to say what's the charging speed because you want to know if it's slowing down like if the charge it doesn't say you want your car to be like. Hey it's charged speed has gone down a bit maybe unplugging and move on to save time it's basic it's it's not a nerdy thing. It's a basic thing with if they can bmw with great av tech and great software which makes the car also a great driver's car. I hope it'll be tuned. Well surely it will be. It's a bmw. Hopefully be a great drive as machine. If i can do that. Then they've got a real chance against the likes of tesla the making really good eve as but certainly. Those people have had a lot of german sports cars in the garage. A lot of them. I think would be tempted back to those brands. If they've gone to tesla if they can make if bmw can make a great. I four and it's all of the right. Ev that's it might not be the best nor to sixty. It may not have a supercharging that work. But it's going to be just about that. And i think that kind of love for the brand whether it's mercedes. Bmw whatever audi will get you over the line. Okay moving on next from bmw. The i x that goes into full production at their plant in germany slightly. Later this year. I couldn't find out exactly when bmw's i x is their attempt to carve out a piece of the growing electric luxury suv pie again. This is a model x. competitor. It's a big bulky. Suv the i x. Unlike the i four which uses the c. l. a. r. wroclaw platform. The i x is a ground up. Designed av puree vivement blank sheets of paper that i very much approval. New idrive system inside. Like say hype. It's good the software's gotta be cracking. Says motoo won. The manufacturer is confirming that starting to accepting preorders in the us in june this year and the models us launch of the stuff that deliveries will be at the beginning of two thousand nine hundred ninety two us price around eighteen thousand. Maybe even mid thousands bmw also announcing the gem prices and tech specs of the two versions of the i x now going to be coming into and so that is news to me. There's the swallow cold them. The forty in the fifty the full name i imax x. Strive forty and i ex ex drive fifty. Look let's just say forty and fifty launching in germany. At the end of the year prices. Start at seventy seven thousand euros. This is not. don't get me wrong. This is not your average family. Suv this is the proper high-end luxury suv stuff. I'm swimming in that pool. I can't afford cars like this but they are very popular. It's china loves them as well. They are popular around the world. Chris randall from electric says the x. Drive designation which people who like the fussing gobbling. Bmw's will be familiar with is familiar to the piston versions at the forty is supposed to place the variant on a similar level to the combustion engined model with three lisa. Engine will forty designation like the three liter. Inline six the ex- ex- extra forty will do not two hundred k's sixty miles an hour in six seconds consumption the aiming for two hundred watt hours kilometer. That's three hundred and twenty two thousand mile That's a smaller battery. And the dc fast charging one hundred and fifty which is very very reasonable. That's going to give you about ninety kilometers of range in ten minutes. The charging process to eighty percent should be less than forty minutes. That's okay that's not too bad. I'd like to be slightly quicker to get eighty percent and forty minutes. That says to me that it's a big peak charge right but it ramps down very very quickly. The battery is said to have a gross energy of more than one hundred kilowatt hours on the big one so on the fifty that's interesting. Bmw give the range of the fifty version again which is just analogous to that. That piston cars of six hundred kilometers charging with the big battery can go up to two hundred kilowatts. Which is mega there on. There's very few calls in the world but can charge at two hundred kilowatts. That's great what i'm bmw. Uk pricing starts at sixty nine thousand pounds of the full version. That is exactly in line with a with a similar specked. Bmw x. Five that's two hundred and fifty miles of range on the middle battery and three hundred and seventy miles of range on the big battery using a structural battery pack because the car is designed from the ground up to be a same tech the fifth generation battery and motor tech twenty percent better energy density than the previous batteries. They used like only vw's it will change the region according to how you driving us. The sentences sweets to know that. If you're doing seventy on the motoo who and you let your foot off the accelerator. It will free will lose because actually you probably don't want to kick in a lot of region efficient way of driving equally if you're about to approach bend and the satnav knows the. Gps also in town. It'll slow you down with max region. I'd like to try that and see how it feels. Because i'm i'm used to a very consistent feeling under my right foot. So i'd need to try. I'm sure you get used to it. But i'd like to give that ago. The motors are designed in house by bmw. Actually bmw very proud making a big point about this designed the motors themselves. They haven't bought them in their engine is being and they want to emphasize not earth materials in that latest motor technology. Much like lucid talent as well. Bmw proud of how the package the motor. So the motor the electronics and the gearbox all contained in one single housing. It's neat and it's light and the charging is good as well. Eleven kilowatt onboard. Ac challenging. So this is up against an eye pace. Hr model x. Mercedes e. q. S when that comes as well and again an expensive car not for the masses. But i really hope. Bmw again smashing out of the park with this one because well they're running out of opportunities to make great new evt's they had an early lead and let it go so now it's time to come back. Bmw's strategy is next in the news. That i and the lining up their electric variants of the five series and seven series and an all electric x one. They'll be based on the next generation cars not the current models that you'll find driving around. Bmw hopes to have at least one fully electric model representing it in about ninety percent of the market segments that it sells calls in in the next two years expects the ev to account for a half of all its global sales by the end of the decades also blocked most are going to be powered by batteries but some are going to be powered by hydrogen electric hybrids and feature highly automated driving technology. And this is my only like. She's a great positive news welcome bmw. But that's my only reservation not to negative but anything like earlier on this week on monday we had. Vw coming out with very specific battery. plans about the type of batteries. They're going to be using the chemistry's not so much the energy densities. They kept up their sleeve. Also wet six. New factories forty gigawatt hours of battery from each factory. Vw looking at the vertical integration of knowing that like we just can't be buying a batteries in house. We've done already more control and bam. W still seem to be talking the way that a lot of carmakers were talking a few years ago which is like all our future events. They're going to be really good and shiny and amazing and you'll love them and they're going to be hydrogen and everything is going to be awesome and i hope they deliver on that. They the way the bmw talk. They're just lacking a little bit of specificity. Not saying that it's not there they just might not be ready to share it yet. Many is a subject they have been talking about. The mini is going to become a pure electric car brand by the early twenties. Thirties has been announced the latest. Combustion engined mini widely rumored to be the next mini hatch will arrive in two thousand twenty five and by two thousand twenty seven mini says. Electric vehicles will account for more than half of all mini sales. So then within the next six years. Half the brand be electric. According to county la- magazine the transition to fully electric complete by very early in the twenty thirty s when minis entire range you'll be fully electric. V announcement is significant because the move will put the firm in line with the. Uk's twenty thirty ban on the sale of petrol diesel 'cause they will affect all markets around the world that many operates in other major markets like asia in the us whether petrol and diesel bands aren't quite so soon you will get electric mini's there as well next. Look the us arrival of the it for this month marks a major milestone for volkswagen story about the id four dealers and customers get the very first id force dealers as well. We'll all be selling it. So there are some companies like ford where not all ford dealers will sell your mustang. There's certain credited for dealers that auden knife down the training or something vw. Who said look. If you're a vw dealer in the us you'll be selling the id cars. And so that's i think it's good it's consistent. It means if you walk into your vw dealership you'll be able to buy an id car preparation for the id. Four has been going on for couple of years. Now you gotta retrain staff you've gotta get appropriate lifting technology in lifting v very different. You're going to get you. Showrooms sought out as well and service bays and that has been going on for a couple of years. Now like i say six hundred. Vw dealers around the states finally today m. g. announcing the to new generation battery electric vehicles for this year. The new and exciting. Mg marvel are nothing to do with comics. The marvel are is a high tech. They a lifestyle lifestyle. Suv sits in the see segments. A quite big there was announcing the new m. g. five estate car. Which is they say. They keep using this phrase. The world's first one hundred percent electric streetcar. That's coming to europe. So he's going to have a range of four hundred kilometers and it's going to have one hundred eighty four. Ps is gonna have eleven kilowatts onboard. Three phase charging. It's going to charge to eighty percent in half now. It can tow half a five hundred kilograms. it can carry a refloat The european market launch is scheduled for october. It's mg pilot. Which is that driver assistance and vehicle to load some interesting things here. The five that we have i've seen here in the uk. Certainly has refocus. but i was told You can't use them. they'd just look good right. So you put reef balls on you put response on the. Mg five estate wagon would have An you put pictures in your promotional material of things being carried on the roof but can't actually use them to carry a fox. No that would be right. Please don't use them that just for show okay also. Mg pilots that driver. Assistance is good but it's not on the five in the uk is in the s but it's missing also vehicle to load. That is interesting. That is a plug. Socket that can supply two point. Five kilowatts of power So much like the recently the mini can do it as well The hunter the neither hungary can do it as well. And i didn't even know this was coming so mg putting in by directionality or at least a very high powered plug socket somewhere on this car. Now when will version come to the uk will it ever come to the uk. I did read the the chinese company that owns the. Mg brand operates separate companies in europe and the u k so technically they could even make different specs of the car not wiegand that version as well but anyway. If you're in europe that comes this awesome and a podcast ape packed podcast for today. Thank you for listening. There are one thousand twenty four episodes in the archive. Get them all for free. If you want to av dot news and support me on patriot if you want to. But no pressure. Pat reo n. dot com slash evening news daily a premium pa daily mentioned phil robertson electric future. Brad's crosby publisher of the in cincinnati. Audi of cincinnati east volvo cars of cincinnati east national kochav dot com and a low huchon come derek riley from the ev. Or if you want to. Youtube channel and richard. Who wanna get yourself an easy in the uk check out our s v coda uk. Have a wonderful. See it's martha friday's episode. And do you remember. There is Such thing as a self charging hybrid.

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Full Episode: Monday, February 4, 2019

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Full Episode: Monday, February 4, 2019

"Are you hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today at indeed dot com slash podcast. That's indeed dot com slash podcast. Good evening. And thank you for joining us tonight. The superstar Cardi B gets candid about marriage motherhood and sitting out on a career high to take a stand. Here's ABC's TJ homes. He's music's hit girl. Cardi B. Roy. But my mom don't want to be crazy. Maroon five hits girls like you. Cardi on the video has been viewed more than a billion times on YouTube. I don't pay when it comes to my heart though. Get it though. Only. But Sunday night when it was time for maroon five to seven eight stadium full of fans with the hit. Party B wasn't there. The rapper refuse to perform at this year Super Bowl, citing the NFL's treatment of Colin Kaepernick, under what circumstance would you have performed at the halftime show higher, my friend back and understand. Why was this like so important and was such an uproar admins that much? You do means a lot to me because it's like, you know, he's standing up for minorities. And as like, we don't do poor who studied enough was then is like you're going to support us. I grew up with different ethnicity of minorities sort I I sympathize with who everybody, you know, I'm I come from a place where it's like a melting pot. So I see like how minority struggle and they need to understand. Why he stand up for us? It's crazy. Do you think he's been accepted if you will or his message at least has been understood by the league by the owners, she might have skipped the halftime show. But Cardi B performed plenty in Atlanta at least six appearances, including the fanatics Super Bowl party dancing here with you England Patriots owner Robert Kraft can make money off from us. Then I walk cannot make money off of this stuff. You got a lot coming at you these days. No doubt. How do you make a decision about you know, what I'll be in partnership with that company and not that one? How do you make those decisions money? That's one Cardi whose real name is Belle callous Almanzar captivated millions with her rags to riches story, the former stripper from the Bronx is now a household name. Cardi who was nominated for five Grammies has quickly become music royalty. Topping the chart with hits. Like, I like it. Senate can't. And finesse star who has almost five million, Twitter and forty million Instagram followers isn't a freight to get lunch. Even when it comes to politics. John is now ordering as some insane better will government workers to go back to work without getting paid at times coming head to head with conservatives. Just this morning Cardi reignited her ongoing Twitter feud with conservative darling. Tommy, Lauren all over a tweet from Lorne where she joked about rapper Twenty-one savages detention by immigration and customs enforcement Cardi responded with don't make me give my leash this just after Cardi's recent Twitter tiff over her twerk music video though, suggestive content drew fire from some online conservative commentator. Stephanie Hamill tweeted, and the era of metoo how exactly does this empower women Jamila Lemieux is a writer and communications strategist, I've seen so many videos that are so, you know, rich with booty shaken and girls dancing that it's surprises me that people are still up in arms about these things. But I also recognize that Cardi is becoming a. Crossover star in many ways, you points to her and say, this is a woman who is living her truth. Who's made the best of some really interesting career twist and turns from strip clubs who reality show to being one of the biggest stars and music, and there are things that can be learned from day. VH1.'s reality show, love and hip, hop or audiences. I got a glimpse of her larger than life persona famous. It would be the song bodak yellow they would give Cardi her first taste of fame. Now, just two years later. She's married to rapper offset mother to their six month old daughter culture and focusing on their family parties when I was young is you are young you talking about when you were young. In twenty twenty one. You know, I'm twenty six now, I work almost twenty four hours on her mom. Twenty six. Hey, listen, live change like that baby. Yeah. I'm sure you'd like to be with your child right now. How are you balancing? I think is hard period for mom, whatever. Like, you know. I know like some moms have a nine to five after work big home. Most of the times. I don't go home like I'm overseas. Yes. It is hard. I just think to myself like her future's going to be so secure. Like, oh my gosh. You're going to have a lambo which is like eighteen Branagh. Gotta be my grind high-profile marriage to offset has had its ups and downs last year. She knows the two were calling it quits. But now she says they're trying to work things out. You know, I know his story, and I know his goals. And I know why do a for it just makes me proud everything that he's accomplishing because I know what it means to him. I know his dreams he's part of me too. So I was going to be a right. You know, you gotta take a slow important is. That to you that. That family unit stays together. When I start seeing my parents separated, right? Even thought like being a single mom that you could always accomplish everything. But and a lot of people was telling me like, oh, you could you could find another man lion has like I can I could find anybody. I want you don't know nowadays who want you for you. Sometimes I think people want me for Cardi B soon as I say, I did a video that are now with this guy more I got all these male celebs in my DM's idea. Let's go to dinner. I'm in LA. You wanna go to dinner with me Cardi B performance. Do the demon you about dates? This like, bro. This is like I just feel like it's it's not as easy as people think like a finer man, you could put this. You could do that side. Honey. But for now, she's focusing on what's next and one thing seems certain Cardi's time into spotlight is just beginning. She promises even bigger things a head for the new year. More have a vision board. I did one. I never did one before. But I did once on board when it happens. I'm like, I'm a hit up, and I'm gonna tell you. Hey, remember, I tear about division bore. Check. Check for Nightline. I'm TJ homes in Atlanta, Georgia. Big thanks to TJ homes coming up next here on Nightline the mysterious parked car. Fires sparking controversy. When it comes to hiring. You don't have time to waste you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot com. Get started today at indeed dot com slash podcast. That's indeed dot com slash podcast. Now to our nationwide. ABC news investigation into the cars that are inexplicably catching fire while owners tell us they were parked. Here's ABC's care Phillips. Mike children survive on schedule. They have a schedule that they are on every single day. Maxon Eli our brothers and both have been diagnosed with autism. Their delicate routine thrown into chaos one night in October. Max was just about getting sleep. Ally was pretty much asleep. Their mom Laura says she parked her two thousand fourteen BMW X five in the garage. And I hear these really odd really really loud. Banging what were you thinking? I think I kind of went into shock grabbed ally. I'm yelling at max get outta bed. Let's go. We have to go. Grab him. They ran out the door to see that a fire had started in the garage with a catastrophic boom. The explosion blew out that garage door. Now when neighbors described it they thought felt that it was either like fireworks or gunshots. I can hear the fire alarms now. Just just going berserk, Laura. Enter family were able to escape with their lives but little else their home destroyed and what came next a surprise immediately. When the fire investigators game they were able to pinpoint the BMW the BMW Laura owned for just a few months, which she says was parked and turned off in her garage had ignited I bought the car in June of two thousand seventeen the fire happened on October eighteenth two thousand seventeen there wasn't even do for an oil change. Laura's case is one of more than fifty reports of BMW car. Fires that ABC news and ABC owned stations have uncovered we found various models of BMW's. Oh my God. And BMW produced mini Coopers which owner. Say were parked with engines off and in one case even part for days, the car had been parked for at least four or three or four days, which we thought was a little peculiar none. We're under fire related recall at the time of the fire. My car is on fire. So what could be causing these parked cars to ignite? It's a question. We've asked the luxury carmaker for nearly two years since our first report in two thousand seventeen and we finally had the chance to ask when of BMW's top executives more on that in a moment. Bill MacOS Maryland home was destroyed when his parked two thousand eight BMW X five ignited in his garage. ABC I met Bill Moco in two thousand seventeen while he was rebuilding his home. I feel like I'm just tossed aside. You know, it's just a number not even an apology. So that's the sad part. It was sickening. How quickly it read Bill says he used to be a loyal BMW customer. But he says BMW gave him the cold shoulder until this letter sa- two years after your BMW caught fire. You get a recall fire related recall as a matter of fact, ironically, I think the fire was December. I twenty fifteen and the recall notice was December twenty seventeen although parked car. Fires are unusual car manufacturers have issued sixty two recalls related to such cases since two thousand seventeen just last month Hyundai and Kia recalled one hundred sixty eight thousand vehicles for fire risk. Since October two thousand seventeen BMW has issued four fire related recalls. And in that time, we've uncovered even more cases, I would never buy another w after the way they treated me when Lin wrench received a recall notice in two thousand seventeen saying remedy, unavailable. She says she reached out to be w right away. And he said they didn't have a solution yet. And they would notify me when they did Lynn says while she was waiting for the fix from BMW more than six months after receiving the initial notice her two thousand eleven BMW caught fire. She says well turned off and parked in Wisconsin BMW offered Lin a three thousand dollar rebate on a new or pre-owned BMW reimbursement for a rental car and an additional fifteen hundred dollars. But with the stipulation they wanted me to sign a nondisclosure agreements. I wouldn't even be able to talk with you about this or. Anybody? Why would I do that Lind is not the only BMW owner who has received a recall letter, saying remedy, unavailable? ABC news even heard from one BMW owner who said that he received a letter saying BMW advised parking vehicle outdoors BMW said it was out of an abundance of caution that it made that recommendation and that the company worked diligently to secure an adequate supply of parts so that affected vehicles can be fixed as quickly as possible. Some BMW owners. We spoke to filed a complaint with nitsa National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the government watchdog for automotive safety. Do you believe nitsa is listening to the drivers who are calling and complaining and holding BMW accountable? Well, there's really no evidence that they are these BMW's hod these fire problems for a very long time taking a very long time to respond to them. I think what's. Particularly scary is there's no watchdog out there that BMW's afraid of currently there are more than ninety complaints of parked BMW fires filed on knits his database thirtieth which were filed after our original report. And after nitsa encouraged BMW owners to get in touch with the agency, but as of December there is no active nitsa investigation into the fires. I think it should be very high priority for nets at New Jersey. Attorney Joseph sent totally says he's been repeatedly contacted by BMW owners who say their parked cars. Caught fire midseason needs to bring pressure as much pressure as they can bring nitsa stated that it is in close contact with BMW in its oversight of the automakers recalls that involve a potential fire risk and will take appropriate action. If warranted BMW representatives, have declined repeated requests for interviews. But in statements have said that with approximately four point nine million BMW vehicles on US roads fire incidents involving BMW's are very rare. And that BMW takes every incident very seriously. Adding that car fires can result from a variety of external reasons unrelated to product defects, but we still had more questions. So we went to the Los Angeles auto show where we found the CEO of BMW North America Bernhardt Coon unveiling BMW's, new sports coupe. Good morning. Can you tell us what you're doing about the BMW's that have been catching fire? Well parked. While. Yes, okay. If you I mean, you're asking me a question just what once again. Sorry you coming by twelve ninety. Because we wanting to be with you. What we pride dozens of cases to to be. I'm w about these hard cars scratching fiery pre. Should you know what I'm happy to give you do me one favor. Please. Yes. I'm back into soon. Moves on limit on his fence sweep thank you, get an interview with you. Now, we're with you. Thank you. I'm happy to come back anytime. Thank you. Right now today. No interview also waiting for answers families whose lives were turned upside down the fire. Do you? Remember, what kind of car it was? Governs EMT BU BMW got burned you just to start over again just to have to buy every dish towel every everything that you could possibly need is incredibly difficult to do that. While you already have two very very severely autistic children. It's really hard. What's your message to be w we're not the only family that has lost everything because of BMW car fire fix the problem? Laura OMI is now considering a lawsuit against BMW her insurance companies have sued BMW. So the automaker tells ABC news it cannot comment on her case. That's Tom Brady. And Julian Edelman today at DisneyWorld fresh up their Super Bowl wins tonight Brady tells our Michael Strahan, the one thing he doesn't want to hear a lot of people myself included, call you the the goat, you know, to go. Great the ball time. I don't know how to like that. Fringe. I it really makes me cream. Well, maybe you shouldn't be so good was not that. I thought about that. I wish you would say your trash tool you too slow. You can't get it done. No more. And I'll say thank you very much you live about criticism more than you're driven by success. Yeah. Absolutely. One way to maintain your edge. And you can see the full interview on GM first thing in the morning right here on ABC full nightline's always available on Hulu. We wanna thank you for watching tonight and good night. Are you hiring with? 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Whats Up With BMWs New Kidney Grille?

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57:20 min | 1 year ago

Whats Up With BMWs New Kidney Grille?

"It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and relief with active OTC ingredients plus the added benefits of THC free hemp oil. Get Hello I'm John was that were shown was one we just couldn't stop staring at it's the BMW concept we stared because of its grill which comically large version of BMW's iconic new epoch knows as well as the best BMW's of all time and our favorite grills of Bruce. How're you Chris doing great always glad to be here awesome so all of our is in a in not a good way this pretty much all the way down the front of the vehicle so it's it's a it's a vertical first of all let me start by asking each of you what do you think of this concept overall took the X. seven started and was already bad just makes it worse I really liked the kind of ruining read on it but that's always the worst backhanded compliment for a concept add you look at this and you're like what were they thinking arrest of the design isn't even super magic if you like kind of block off the face think as offensive as the Front Grille is the kind of it's you brought up a Christie brought up the X. Seven and the and Jeffey ran up the seven the seven series and the x seven they're like the top of the line there like the best sedan you can lineup but clearly they were just prelude and they're going to spread this at the m w when not only when you get this feedback after you make the debut so two things paying piggybacking on something you said a second ago about the X. Seven the ear it's such a relatively compact vehicle that it makes the grill look even bigger than it probably on the two series it's going to be more it's going to go up the hood like two feet especially the Chinese market where a apparently bigger grills are more popular envinced that's a that's an interesting theory because the Chinese that's not I for a long time almost every automaker that sells in China has a long wheelbase version made that concession in special versions of their cars for that market able meeting and said Hey I know the Chinese might like this but this is not going to go over well so that's where the theory I think breaks down a little bit yeah I was reading an interview with Van Hoy so in this interview with Forbes off look at that but he also lumps in the USA howdy grills that's totally true I think if he's looking around of those cars so I can see where he gets that impression but I also feel like as public disagrees with us and those giant grills are being received well and they're getting good feedback ah you know I it's gone on long enough and and we've had our fun let's scale does this large it usually means a very small proportion through so I'm imagining a much like other grills that are this Kammer or or rats down you know a lot of this a lot of option that to me that's kind of sad because it breaks down as soon as you look a little closer that that's kind of I don't know it maybe this sounds wishy washy but where everything that's on it is there for a purpose and performs a function concept and you can see that it is almost entirely all blocked off except for a very and it's not just BMW? I mean I was driving the Avalon last week is actually open and let's Erin and even on the T. R. D. One which is when we drove last week you know it would it would be more detrimental to the aerodynamics than it would beneficial worksheet metal would be more aerodynamic than just having a large on functioning grill from the press release for the concept for wear BMW P. has been a signature feature of BMW cars reflects damage do catch to the expressive face of the four series range the vertically oriented grill three twenty eight or the BMW three point oh CSI and therefore shine the spotlight VR presented just tries to mention this and get past it in the press release as quickly topic which is BMW designs history because some of my least favorite Kidney Grille it wasn't as big as as the monstrosity on the on the on this concept four but a lot of I think good versions of this grill and of BMW new designs of all time so jeff let's start with you what going back the CSL the you know those two thousand two they're really good connick bangle but six series wow yeah now I you like about it you know it's different there's something just so interesting about this car because Dan van Hoy dunk were doing this design it's just it's just yeah well especially when you look at the m six big wheels you know the bigger grill and all that worked for me this design well that whole generation of the Bengal designed BMW's before then did look the same I would argue that looked really good but at some point because I think Audi do the exact opposite I think Audi has now rehashed at least bmw kind of wipe the slate clean started with something fresh and even if they retreated from but I do respect it and it's funny because even the even the six series after that in general architecture of of the e sixty three yeah kind of going with the models directly before you really start eighteen ninety five to two thousand and four I mean that's yes and it's funny if you look at our picture one how small the Kidney Grilles or through and I bet it let's just as much air through as like the BMW concept for from this generation and I drive past whenever emily in the house and it I always as it does on right then the base looks as premium as Shen died we won't get into that second car ever owned was an e thirty BMW three twenty be of my youth that's like one of the designs I associate most with the car have a lot of great memories in it so I remember to in my young days Kelly but that's how that's how those things work I'm gonNA I'm GonNa pick something from Jason Statham drove in the first transporter movie This to me it came out the year before ninety four is supposed to ninety five and and I to and wealth proportioned as as a vehicle can be driving around also had a lot of tons of great engines everything from I think if I could be honest I don't think seven series has also kind of had me thinking before we started the podcast of there's because cards have to let air in and and that's it and they'll play nick grill and for better where's it's a design or a constraint history let me go first on this one because I'm gonNA actually pick one that's very ah Kidney Grille so much or if you'd pick another volved in we'll because the grills like the headlights were on the very outside edges and then from Mike Vehicle over over the years that kind of really large grill got condemned they were pontiac was much more free to like play with that design and brands and there just wasn't room for the kidney grow for the for the dual grill you know the fiero didn't have so a pontiac they could recognize by that grill now my favorite instance are they made some quote unquote high performance versions specifically they had a really headlights it was set lower into the front bumper and it was kind of stretched really wide Oh grill like this and you know part one out for Pontiac always hated to see them go get around kind of it kind of started in the thirties although it was a much more autumn that literally mean practically any Alfa Romeo you look Dr and it's just it makes an Alfa Romeo immediately it's just pretty tomatoes I agree that shield grill isn't indoor performance versions but yeah yeah perfectly identical identifiable and you know the topic that I kind of want to have a whole podcast episode about one day which is with a grill not exist anymore let cars just completely ignore having any oh fifty years you know to the giant chrome bumpers of those eras you know when when sixty percent of the front is grill if you tap the car in front of you you just cracked Fox's Bravo thank you I'll save it for separate podcast episode a brand and I would say that no grill has done better than the rolls it because how just daunting and in your face it is I will say I don't sore spot for a lot of people But the Rolls Royce Grille all car sort of wraps around it and if you look at like the older grills where you just keep going back in time and you see this monolithic kind of that staying power that is the definition of conic okay well we would love to hear what everyone facebook twitter where you can find us at motor one calm and of course on our website motor went dot versus the Tesla's specifically the Tesla Model S. so we got a couple five different ways because I still have got down nate says what is it trying to be better at a long superchargers as CCS lacking here it looks great on the exterior though on track car they want it to be a performance car they did not make a long distance touring car and while managing editor Brandon Turkis who got red shotgun in one they have the weight especially when if that low to the ground in you've got you know adapted suspensions The next comment came from Allen and he the near dead already and this is this is something that we talked about last week I don't know if this can be like two hundred and fifty miles for the turbo and probably and Brandon was arguing that the base models will have much more range. We'll have more like a because you're paying less and I don't know I guess when I look at Tesla pricing like do you guys have an impression from Porsche which you think which way you think the base models will go the battery is of very very expensive part of they're going to say exactly they're gonNA use a smaller battery use the same battery but software but but software limit the range because you're Mahler battery pack and and come in and under one hundred thousand dollars supposedly still be generally more expensive in the Model S. even like the lower range model will probably still be a bit car whereas the Tesla's does greatness straight line and it's really comfortable but I think that there optimizations for range whether they be aro- dynamic or weight or on fifty I can see I

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BMW & Other Earnings, SpaceX Starship SN5 Test Flight (08.05.20)

Tesla Daily: Tesla News & Analysis

10:14 min | 10 months ago

BMW & Other Earnings, SpaceX Starship SN5 Test Flight (08.05.20)

"Everybody robbed power here and relatively quiet newsday for Tesla. But we do have some other interesting things to go through I on SPACEX and then we also have earnings reports from BMW and Honda. So we can throw that into our q two comparison sheet for Tesla and other automakers, and as we've discussed quite a bit at this point, I'm pretty fascinated with BMW's approach. For, their flexible architecture strategy, the power of choice fascinated in I don't think it's very good strategy stored away and they had some comments on that on the earnings call that will talk about as well. So I up some news on space of course earlier this week, they had the successful completion of the crew demo to mission with the splashdown astronauts, Bankin and Doug. Yesterday. We had some more good news on space x with the successful test flight hundred and fifty meter hop as they are known, which is just a launch and then a quick landing of starship prototype vehicle S and five or serial number five. So this was a similar to these star hopper flight that happened last year. If you remember that and the reason, these tests are so exciting because this is the. Iteration process for the vehicle that will eventually carry humans to Mars at least that is the goal Yulon in June said that they are targeting to for the first cargo mission to Mars and twenty twenty four for the first crude mission. Among other things, this test is based XS next generation raptor engine. This test flight was a single engine vehicle. The final starship is supposed to have six raptor engines and that will. Eventually sit on rocket booster called super heavy with thirty one of the raptor engines as far as what comes next for starship. Yuan, said quote we'll do several short hops to smooth out launch process. Then go high altitude with lots and quote in reply to a tweet from rocket photographer Austin Bernard, which read quote today marks the beginning of a new era even though this is a small step, we are A. Giant leap closer to Mars than we were yesterday. The Future of interplanetary travel is upon US Mars here we come and quote Yulon replied quote Mars is looking real and quote also in response to on twitter he said progress is accelerating salon was clearly very happy with the results of test and I think it's high time that I start covering space x a little bit more closely. So please let me know what? You think about that in the comments, but with all the progress that sterling has had this year and starship now starting to come online hopefully doing missions next year, there's a lot of exciting things to cover with SPACEX even if we can't quite get as much insight into the actual business quite yet are at shifting over to automotive earnings BMW today reporting there June and quarter results. Cute you for them they. Reported deliveries to customers down twenty five percent to just under half a million vehicles for the quarter revenues in the same ballpark down twenty two percent to just under twenty billion euros leading to a net loss for the quarter of two hundred and twelve million euros a negative free cash flow of just under three hundred million. So overall all things considered relative to other automakers not really all that bad of a quarter. For, BMW. We'll take a look at how that all stacked up here in a second but first I wanted to point out one other number, and that is BMW capital expenditures for the period. They spent about one point five billion euros on Capex compared to two point two, billion last year. So down thirty, two percent year over year as I said, a few months back capex something I've been watching closely because I. Think, other automakers are going to cut back there to compensate for the financial hit from this girl virus time period, which may end up delaying some of their electric vehicle initiatives. Of course, all these automakers so far are saying that that is the Capex that they are prioritizing and that they're just magically finding all these other areas to cut cap ex spending, which if accurate could definitely end up being a good thing. Inside is very important as we have heard tussle talk a lot about now but I remain skeptical and especially in the case of BMW in a lot of that capital expenditure is being used to create flexible architecture production lines, which will come back to you in a minute aren't. So quickly circling back to June quarter results for the total automotive sector comparing Tesla against other automakers results. The new editions here are, of course, BMW the Nevada, Fiat Chrysler from last week, and Honda from this week as well. Toyota's report until later next week and then for Renault and PSA I couldn't find their quarterly split just their first half numbers in total so not comparable. So I don't have them included. Here. Either zooming in on sales units, Fiat Chrysler definitely brought the average down. So the average is now down forty percent generally these are wholesale comparing to Tesla, which is deliveries down five percent. Then we have GM and BMW outperforming the other automakers but again, maybe not a perfect picture because it really depends how much Tori there then stuffing into the dealership channel. So while we are looking at the quarterly results, they are somewhat limited in terms of how much information they provide anyway moving into revenue year over year for the June quarter the average exciting tussle is down forty percent, BMW Hyundai and diner faring best here aside from Tesla's down five performance, of course, gap net income. Tesla, and Hyundai. Were the only ones to post a profit with the exception of Ford. As a reminder, they had a three point, five, billion dollar one time positive impact from argo is so just for comparison's sake I have excluded that here factoring in that exclusion, the average lost four other automakers non Tesla was about one point, three, billion dollars, and for other automakers reporting in non US dollar currency. I've just converted that using the exchange rates from Google lastly is free cash. Lau and just like net income there can be a lot of factors causing this to swing from the quarter but on average excluding Tesla, the other automakers reported a negative free cash flow of three and a half billion dollars with just. Tesla and diamond managing free cash flow positive for the quarter. So hopefully, that's helpful just to put tussles results in context other automakers I. think it shows how well Tesla's financials are developing in addition to highlighting just how strong Tesla's demand has been reporting down five, which was production constrained with the broader automarket being down forty percent shifting the focus. Then specifically back to be on W, there were a few comments from the earnings call that I wanted to highlight topics that relate directly to tesla owner BMW's power of choice strategy, which is their pursuit of both flexible architectures and vehicle design which they hope will allow them to be adaptable to changing customer demands as we've talked about for many future. Vehicles BMW. Intends to offer four powertrains, gasoline diesel plug in electric hybrid, and then all electric and they call this strategy, the power of choice. So Oliver zips Seo opened the call and one of his first comments was quote I the most important trait of our global production network is flexibility. I can't emphasize this enough and quote specifically the context around that quote was BMW's ability to quickly stop and then restart production during the coronavirus situation but it was clearly overarching statement and BMW doubled and tripled down on their flexibility strategy. Later in the call U BS analyst Patrick Hummel. Ask Them specifically about this later in the call saying that right now the market is valuing their pure play electric vehicle. Strategy Tesla at three, hundred, billion and BMW's flexibility approach at forty billion. So why does BMW feel that that is a superior strategy and sips a had a pretty lengthy reply here which I will read all of said quote. So the question for the next decade is, how do you conquer the growing AV market and at the same time do not lose the existing market that's the task at hand, and we are not talking about twenty fifty nobody of us knows how the automotive industry will exactly look like then are is to stay as profitable as possible and grow as much as possible during the next decade. Therefore, the approach to have a power of choice strategy I think is the only. One which is going to work despite the fact how you achieve that whether with flexible architectures or with dedicated architectures, and that is our approach and I think the current market conditions support that we strong growth in the EV markets plug in hybrid and EVT's the mini electric is fully sold out fully sold out independent of range. So the range is for us a completely overrated topic and for us there is now I think no other way and quote. All right. So obviously emphasis by me on that last part but I did want to pause here because I found that statement to be kind of shocking BMW estimates the EPA range for the to be about one hundred and ten miles and. It starts at thirty thousand dollars in the United States. That's not deliverable here yet, but they've only sold about eleven thousand of those over the last year Tesla's pretty close to that right now per week that is a very, very small amount of data to come away with that sort of a conclusion on eleven. Thousand Vehicles Represents about zero point zero, one percent of the market I really hope for BMW sake that they don't actually believe that but they have made similar we concerning comments in the past meanwhile Ilan of course, commented on Tesla Second Quarter call that he believes that the range expectation is rising to about three hundred miles anyway zips around it out that statement with probably a more. ACCURATE PORTRAYAL OF BMW's decision. Making Process I'll say it that way by saying quote specifically, if you want to have a cost based approach, we are convinced that if you are not able to include ev structures into your normal industrial structure, your cost base will go out of range and quote I dunno I take that to read as BMW couldn't figure out a way to make dedicated ev infrastructure model work, but their spreadsheets are telling them that. May, be if they amortize enough of those costs over their current production line then over time, they can actually get to scale and provide an affordable enough electric vehicle. We'll see I mean to me just feels like management saying figure out how to do this and not liking the answer that came back telling the teams to figure it out anyway, and then giving their best-case assumptions than their managers giving their best-case assumptions. This is just how things work. When a company is operating in fear and not approaching things from a first principles perspective and my former line of work. We saw stuff like this all the time I think anybody that has worked in a large company and can relate to this. It's essentially being a yes manner. Yes. Woman which sure does make things easier in the short on maybe you can pull that off for a year or a couple years or maybe even several years but. That comes back and that hits you hard and believe from an outside perspective. That's probably what's happening here at BMW. So we'll see it's going to be fascinating to see how it all plays out but that we're at today as always thank you for listening. Don't forget to subscribe and sign up for notifications also make sure you're following me on twitter at Tessa podcast, and also you tomorrow for the Thursday August six episode of Tusla Dave thank you.

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Gratitude Check-In

The Coaches Corner

06:08 min | 3 weeks ago

Gratitude Check-In

"Today's episode is just going to serve as gentle reminder owner. Run you through just a quick gratitude checking oftentimes in the hustle and bustle of things. We've always got new goals new targets new things we're aiming for and if this catches you at the right time to just take a few moments i'm talking two or three minutes together to just take stock of what it is. We do have an express gratitude for what's to come being a receiving mode. I try to do this every single morning. And not only do i check off the list. I generally feel it saw kind of take you through my morning experience today. And you're welcome to you really take a moment and see what comes up for. You walk walking on the train tracks today. I know it's it sounds hilarious. I go for this walk every single morning. And there's a strain track and worked on the train track. It goes over this bridge over this river then a loop around kind of go through the mountain. You could call it this little pathway through the mountain circles back around and eventually comes back to our place here and the air was fairly crisps. Canadian canadian morning in march. It was nice and crisp. And i was overwhelmed as breathing in and out who was coming through my nose outta my mouth. How fresh the air was. We moved about thirty five minutes outside of the city. I lived right downtown for years. Finally like i don't need to be here. I'm out of here and the air like any big city was just not the same and here today and walking and i just had this insanely grateful feeling of the fresh air amazing it felt and then i started feeling this beautiful energy super grateful for my body. I was looking at my body. As i'm walking and i'm like i'm able to walk and in joy. This physical reality and my nervous system was just beaming with electricity. Felt like it was coming through my fingers as a comeback to my place. I opened the door and there was four motorcycles. There like a kid's dream. I used to dream in that stuff for motorcycles. Bmw cafe racer. There's a harley davidson dyna that's black and gold built it over the winter there's ktm five hundred arguably one of the best dirt bikes out there and a trials bike scarpa to fifty trials. Bikes are like skill building type motorcycles. And i just felt this insane gratitude for our ability and anyone has ability to create the life that they want. We just get clear on what it is we want and we can start creating it. We can get creative on how we solve our problems and we can keep true north. This is what i want. Every decision can run through that we start making decisions based on what it is we want. Nc yesterday the things that bring us closer to that and say no to the things that push us further from it by now at like ten. Ten twelve hundred ten on frequency. I'm just vibing and as coming upstairs start work. I like to check it on the community on the clients have little peek inside and i was overwhelmed with gratitude for our clients. We had so many wins. The last two weeks just clients crushing it. Overcoming limiting beliefs and obstacles and challenges and problems and making massive ceo level. Decisions and i was just like yes and then i started my day and an hour later. Here we are on the mike now. Obviously every morning is it doesn't go through that but oftentimes. I do grateful for something in my environment. The mountains the sun shining on my face. But it's a feeling i'm after sometimes. I'm grateful for the motorcycles. Sometimes it's nothing material and we're not. We're not here to judge what you're grateful for but if we take two or three minutes even just right now right after this episode and just close your eyes and really tune in one is it. You have that your sodium grateful for i've oftentimes found that it's the smallest things. It's the energy flowing through my body. It's my is able to see things and what life would be. Like if i couldn't see things and just my gratitude for being able to see what the world has to offer people who can't and that usually starts this ball of energy in my chest that just keeps expanding keeps expanding keeps expanding tone just a ball of gratitude. And then i start my day. The separatists are really tune into that frequency. Life started happening things happening. I started tracking. The perfect client started attracting money into my life opportunities into my life that never existed before. No matter how hard i tried i i would love nothing more than to get a message from you after this episode. I got into such a vibration and you wouldn't believe what happened. I got an email in that email. X y z happen. And like. i can't believe how lucky i wasn't. I would say it wasn't luck you created at. www dot dot com for absolutely anything else other website. We got a lot to offer a lot to give a lot to serve you with and with that said forward into the day in from a place of gratitude. And you'll be amazed at what you're able to create a chat with you.

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Arrest warrants issued for NFL players over armed robbery allegations in Florida

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00:25 sec | 1 year ago

Arrest warrants issued for NFL players over armed robbery allegations in Florida

"In Florida arrest warrants issued for two. Nfl players giants quarterback de'andre Baker and Seattle cornerback. Went Doug Bar for armed robbery. The two are accused of robbing guests at gunpoint at a cookout and Miramar on Wednesday night along with two other men with the four suspects escaping in three cars Mercedes. Bmw AND A.

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BMW PGA Championship Tips | Sanderson Farms Championship Tips | Golf Postcast

Racing Post

30:44 min | 1 year ago

BMW PGA Championship Tips | Sanderson Farms Championship Tips | Golf Postcast

"Welcome Sherwin Williams hi there I heard paints or forty percents off. Yep and stains to right here. We're only at your neighborhood. Sherwin Williams store right now about September twentieth through twenty third right on right ask Kerr when Williams September twentieth through twenty third NC forty percent on paints and stains with sale prices starting at twenty three. Oh nine only at your local. Sherwin Williams store retail sales only some exclusions Hi See store for details at STOSKOPF back we abetting one auspice seven places in this week's The N. W. PJ championship windward eighteen years old to be light the candle tiger hollow. They're welcome thanks for joining us for the Racing Post Constitutes Bruce Millington and Steve Palmilla can answer one of the highlights of the British British Golfing Yeah the BMW PGA Championship at one month. We've also got the SAUNDERSON farms championship over in America. Steve's back from a two week break geico free refreshed and raring to go with some winners Steve. I know the when you when you are white you don't torture yourself by studying tournament to see if you would have tipped the winner but do you think would either of last week's when his name and author John Garcia Yeah because the processes account get involved so yeah four nights off in the mid three tournaments wouldn't have I pull case in the European opened on a huge Pool Casey Fan would've Sergio Garcia in the Carolina. I think that was a surprise you Michelle the Obama almost certain or whatever your name and for the Greenbrier mini Egypt Carl huge hints in his previous visits there a Finnish twenty. Ninth is an amateur there and this is. I regulation relation. PGA Tour Event he finished fifth last year which is best finish the season so pretty got about seven Neiman a close sixty four in that event all free times. He's been there incredible incredible statistics so yeah. I'm certainly what about the other two well. The good news is the end Wilkerson your very able deputy stood in tip name and so well well done to Wilco any lessons from last week the week before he obviously likes say recharging the batteries. Keep finger on the pulse as well as anything. We've learned in the last couple of weeks who have used to punters now. I always keep a finger finger on the pulse bruce as you well know. The full night off didn't go anywhere so it was able to watch golf. Tucson airplane was no way he didn't enjoy it. I forgot about that but now is designed around around my daughter in school so just wanted to take the golfing stress out a household because she was under enormous strain a self. She tried to eat a shoes news on the first morning very cunning plans on still having to go to school she she attempted to eat a Sushi filled out with Gary at school so yeah I just keep keep myself calm and then shawon transmitting that come over to her so so once she wants to go to school that I could watch it go from the yeah. Nikolai hoejgaard needs to be these you mentioned that you watch him in the KLM he gave Sergio Garcia a good game and thousands of women for that that hair eighteen year old Danish each player a big future so yeah. I've got me all Nikola Hodge not entirely sure you pronounce it and then in the other event Sebastian Munoz who knows play while again didn't he close with three consecutive sixty sixty so I kept on across the or the golfing action yeah quality confident this week as she good. I've never taught anything shoes. Do love a bit of so right then which tournaments we start world tunes we start. Let's start the BMW PJ championship. Thank you very much because we got fantastic filled. Poro Glenn Diagnose joins. This is ill so he come. Mike it so I'm GONNA be Glen. I'll read out the stalls all sports prices on Tournament Star Sports Paying v the terms of fifty seven places six two on Rory mcroy one big Jon Rahm Fourteen Paul Casey Sixteen Justin rose. You can hear from these names we also stellar feel this year not the usual European for twenty two hundred Tommy fleetwood twenty two stints and twenty-five Molinari a Matt Wallace Matt Fitzpatrick and indeed Toni Female twenty-eight Shane Larry twenty-eight Victor Homeland Thirty two one Patriot read and thirty three to one ball so steve what fantastic tournament excited I am. I'm very excited yeah yeah. I'm I'm Satay. Cleanse not well a get well soon glenn but Sir Yeah Mark Sawmill. That was a quiet hard. He's always a hall. Lots of the county obviously usually easy. May We switched to September this year. Normally we have our our trips to win with in May but were in September. I'll tell you that's going to be a huge factor in the weather's been very good lately and sorry the the forecast for this week is absolutely amazing. So you know this summer some weather conditions for this one. yeah the the the famous west. West Coast is Harry Colt designed not a lot changes over the last few years but they seem to have go to absolutely perfect now the buyers will love it and yeah I think strong driving is the cadence okay this week. You know you got it tough on the fairways at Wentworth retool treat on fairways so you looking for strong drivers with with sharp short game. If you play this course they've played a few times actually without sounding too cocky. There's been a few media days. Erin gone quite well with the former secretary's aries sign up now. I'm going to go well. We'll former secretaries and laugh paid a few times. There's another cool says well east coast which he said slowly easier but unknown my way around the West is impossibly I played it once and it was absolutely impossible gophers and they've made it harder heavily. They asked they obviously a very different peace. Threat was was in in the Star of the Millennium yeah. It's it's tough tight treat on Trenton Yup. I'll be focusing my attention this week on Australia's uh-huh okay so Tennessee you mind selection is then may selection is the champion Golfer of the year. Shane lowry was he won. The opening tremendous fashion action must feel ten feet tall now he cost the ultimate heard lives rove stuff when it's a delight the home galleries like he did eastern each at a long break he'd. He hasn't played much since then. I think that was a sensible tactic. He turned his back on the WGC. Ritchie's wasn't really into the Fedex Cup playoff so eases fresh as a daisy easy and I think he's coming to an event this way that he should have won the posses at great chances. He's got six top fifteen finishes worth you almost want it in two thousand fourteen lost shorter to rory macro and he was ranked one hundred forty second in the world so yeah he's he's overdue A. Wentworth when ASEM awesome is determined to play well this week the Ryder Cup points race starches. We must mention that Shane Larry is focuses on achieving Roddick Cup debut abuse Little Casper next time Padraig Harrington's the captain oversee Larry's good friends with with Harrington so Easter term together on that same. I think he will go on that same. Eh it became a good start this way so yeah. I think he can follow the examples of Rory mcilroy Francesco Molinari macrey in two thousand fourteen did the open and PJ double Molinari to last year slightly concerned Steve since since a royal portrush who haven't actually seen implant any great stellar go five-way no no by play twice you pay to Fedex Cup playoff events for good round four bad ones but I think he would have prepared thirty for list once every two months ago. Now the open victory he knows when with is big opportunity for him. He loves to cause. I think I'm buying can only haven't done some serious this practice for it. I think if he can get off to a good start nurse morning teatime flat calm on Thursday a warm sunshine a think yeah I think get off to a decent star star think you'll really grow into the event and if he gets a winning chance this time in the past he's been Ab- Edgy. You know big tournament now the open champion. I think it will be a colossus on leaderboard lovely stuff right there. Nothing there's four other fence. He's on a fair way down. The list only four big process Jost Luis Horn is is the next best I he's a six time European champion. I think he's a strong enough character to handle the PG. He's got a good record in in in UK events. I mean this is going to be crowns. This way. Your average European tour events attract the the atmosphere that this will will you know it'd be very very well attended event. I think Lewis and can have won the Wales Open before he hasn't done yourself justice justice in in this event in previous previous she is but is swing as really clicked into gear and in in the last three tournaments is finished sixth nineteenth and I I in Greens in regulation his last three tournaments strike in his bowl absolutely magnificent he just needs to warm up a little bit and it'd be be a serious contender recruited a new caddy it stop the street just before the Scandinavian invitation Martin Bosh onto his bag yeah I i Young County and they've jailed superbia found eighteen greens in Regulation Lewis not in round three of the Scandinavian invitation he found eighty five percent of green Jim Regulation last last time out and the callum open last week so yeah he is long game is in pristine condition as I say when worth is a tough tee-to-green says so yes house Lewis Lincoln Chase Omb Shane lowry and then again three more massive process marcus can halt. You know I'm a big fan of him mentioned a lot but I think we'll get our reward soon. He won the British masters in south boy in May a really gutsy effort might Wallison Eddie Pepperell in that he seems to enjoy playing in England won the trophy by eight shots as an amateur qualify for the US Open it Walton Wilson Heath in June back another sorry this week access the plane. Why would it go for play veteran England. It doesn't seem any logic in well in the Scandinavian press into play well in England of similar temperatures similar climates show chilly mornings and yeah yeah that you'll be you'll be amazed how the Scandinavians in the English team to perform well in in those events so yeah I think it is a factor and an and the biggest factor of all is Kim host performance at Wentworth last year making his debut open with a seventy four he came into that event of foam figures of miscount miscount miscount Miss Sixty three it was the world number two number two hundred and three of rookie maiden so he's staring at another makeup and then he fired rounds of sixty seven sixty eight and seventy to finish. He's twelve is amazing comeback. Each massive hit the Wentworth is for him and this time overseas got the wind. He's much more confident close with a pair of sixty fives in his last event across Sir Marcus Kin who is the pick of the outsiders Alexander Buke number. Four two solid previous went spins fourteen for twenty-seventh current form of twenty three twenty twenty eight twenty two cents the Open well-suited Simon it was runner up in the British Masters Warren Hyphen sorry last year and in the former one Andrea Pavan. We've been following immolate lately. He won the BMW International in June was fourth in the Scottish Open in July and is is phone NAS three events a three sixteen twelve so PA- evanger bursting with former confidence of thinking play went with while he hasn't done in the past but he's never audience in such a vibrant fashion now. It's going to be interesting because guys you've picked that because all of a sudden big guns of the swaggered into town haven't I let's go through them and obviously started rory mcilroy lockers as the market leader six to one with stars that looking at the table and racing besides industry best. Saudi matching Glenn on the guys at starts trying to get him. Is that a defensible plight you think. I think they should try and get him yeah. I didn't find any of the market leaders appealing your Roy. There's lots of big names but none of them really caught my eye. I mean macaroni and interesting morning. He's played Wentworth nine times and he's missed the cut four times so he's all Dhakal no dinner as they say Ah Wentworth wanted in twenty four teams wondering last year so you're the performs really well or really badly and I don't think the weather conditions are helping open. Roy this week womb sunshine in the build-up biking conditions over the weekend and you know he prefers softer softer terrains. Who you know to unleash leashes power on so yeah? I I'm not kidding Roy through it was a very short process week Johnny Romney second favourite well. I mean he's he's eleven to one chosen. Listen again. That's a that's a big pets. The other put Mike is doing so I think Glen's trying to get him in the book as well. What did you think of the temperamental Spaniard yes tough on your mom because awesome is making his debut very well. Established tried has been hundreds of tournaments at Wentworth and you know significant disadvantage but on the flip side he's been absolutely alterman in regulation European tour events. He's is quickly. One full of them hasn't played in many in them. Yeah seems to have come over to you know you talk about swaggart. You'll Romney's the man you know when we sat down greater and this is a good event but when he has downgrade from the US Tori usually performance but not for me. I don't like banks Davidson's now. You said you've done particularly like Paul Casey but he comes into this with a one against his name in the most recent figures I can. He follow up very popular selection this week but yeah you want to win with very old form isn't he won the match. Bay and in in the Dark Ages he also won the PGA but he's only played in one of the last FAV PJ's Wentworth and as I said it'd be lots of course changes in that period over the last decade that constantly tinkering with the trackside as experience of of off the Molten Wentworth. He's playing well over a chance again not for me. When did they change the full mice or not L. Toyota World matchplay it when it was good yet white death in two thousand seven and four really Isauro I in people aren't coming in yesterday's. Isn't it yeah it does. The form guys is and then if he favorites then a couple of old names from the blast in the past and it was always wanting changing role in six matches when in the first round if your CD didn't have to play it a huge at barnish yeah yeah those days one night dish with right then the final man Justin rose is four thin. Can he win this. They've found young man. He's slowly off. The ball isn't a alikes. Wentworth the remember following in there once in a double with someone. I remember headbutting a tree free. Actually when there's so many trees that went with it or just around your life you ever so angry burst. You do tend to hit a tree. Sri rose almost warm forty now one year he does he does before when it went with but I'm not sure he's going off the boil but is bullsh- dragons being very unrolls like if that's what I said I want to ask you about someone. That'll further down the list. I thought Taro Hannah fifty to one against his name. It just struck brought me slightly too big. You're going to deter me now. I want to tell you I mean Englishman offense record in this event. tickly Englishman from the south of England. Kim fits that category hiwickum concede bed tonight to know how we can from far yeah sleeping's. I'm betty LEXI's Cardoni so little little driver do him good but yeah. I'm not sure it's shocking crisp enough to pass the radio any other thoughts on the told him before we wrap well upon is just a don't get too keen on the market leader. I think some good value beat down the list. I mean you know you you launched providers in red hot form because not household name and you will get lot. Casual pundits get involved in this tournament because it is. It's it's on Sheriff Armchair casual hunters. Get get involved in it yeah. I mean yeah so I'm rambling again. I'm so tired or go back to our state last night but t out advise pundits to delve deeper down the lists no not how come you slept badly off the four months progression and I'll tell me tigers at the full months regression have you heard of that one where they they just suddenly stopped sleeping tool June and they they they sell into it and then they after four months a suddenly flip back again. Agents won't sleep in the night sir. I'm a thing I think that's something the United States not mum's net came on. Someone's invented that I've never heard of that night. But that's not good is it so he was he was up on. Oh yes and Wednesday night show nine towns while isn't it. We Drinking Punch foaming. I'll I'll aiming to yeah. Yeah might be drinking with me always clubs bum. I'm aiming to johnny good. Wow okay then we'll good luck with Larry. At our at Wentworth we will do the Saunderson Farms Championship next Saas who stop that provide the complete betty experience find us online via our website and APP on pools and at a flagship concealed in London's eighteen years old began to lag dot okay the other tournament taking place. This wake is the Saunderson foams championship is in Jackson. Missouri and you need to get your bets by twelve forty five live on Thursday lunchtime. Hair is the latest baton from Star Sports H. Y. BEKKER's can get fifty six and Joaquin Name and last week's winner is twelve to on favorite is in sixteen one. Brent's Networker Eighteenth One Sunjay Im- twenty two two on Corey Corners twenty-five Yahun twenty-five twenty five to one Lucas Glover and Scotty Chef La Twenty eight hundred. I'm Brian Harman thirty three to one Cameron Smith and thirty five to one bar so I'm not quite as good tournaments. They've as at women in terms of quality by all this indecent bets. Let's find out who your main man. Harry's we must I S in Mississippi very easy to get Mississippi's and you miss all so remiss. Mississippi start wearing spectacles ridiculous bliss anyway gourmet very Mississippi of you but we're in the country Jason me seven thousand four hundred twenty. One yards are seventy two. It's been the venue since it's twenty four chain. Seriously hot temperatures in Mississippi at the moment so firm fast conditions are almost certain unless we get thunderstorms very slick Greens. I mean let me go no incidents the these these puzzles golf tournaments are it's always a case of. Can we find sort of certain players that you know the go for the list of winners are they similar. The Thompson says the last two winners this torn Roy Armor and Cameron Champ. I mean they are choking cheese. Yeah to most contrast players you can ask for two more contrast in need to post costs finest moments. Wasn't it common chump winning Cameron. Shall we love him and wanted to brilliant scum roth blown out but yeah punt. This needs to be the open-minded. This weight is clearly more than one way to skin this particular cabinet as a say with the firm. Fox conditions are think favor arms over your champs this week but yeah best soon loser classical round where you know the weaknesses in his game so yeah. I think enjoying Shinjo him can win on any track and I think this week he's perfect for him. Last week. We had a two zero win in your name and often we're GonNa have a twenty one year old winter this weight young young guns had taken over the PGA tour. We we know that with your with your who's every Copeland remember Manchester United for that was Eric Rubbish when he but big INVICTA Harlin Mati Wolf cullimore colleague at this young man's game now the PGA tour soon joy. Emmy is good enough to pylons. Are these guys it was voted the twenty nineteen rookie of the year by his peers which I suppose if you pay because he had an aggregate win to his name is consistency which is impressed toffee that does he never as a week often is on the leaderboard relentlessly thirteen thirteen top twenty s it was third at Bay Hill and four for the vows Bar Championships GonNa turn that consistency in the state of Western. You know thinking this week because driven those appearances on almost all of them have been cost debuts yesterday with cooled unfamiliarity but this week is actually played the coast before he played it last year he missed the cub couple of shorts but at least he's seen it and as as big excuses for that failed because it came the week after the CJ cut which is in his homeland of career PGA tour event Jesuit Island which is uses both by so we went over there chew spotlight on him last year Ernie els blow in sunshine up his ass in in press conferences it was soon joy in this sheung enjoying that and the mid division and then he got back on the plane for the Sanderson Farms. He was absolutely naked and he missed the. I wouldn't worry about that miscut last year for enjoyment. I it's helped says he's helped us as pundits to get a better price. The courses are deal for him. He's much fresher much more confident this time for the second second run in one of the rising stars of the of the PGA he just gets off the mark and the main danger token and rising stars and indeed people who this particular post cost of highlighted a lot lately. I bring you you bring us corey corners and if Glen was was well enough are expect so you would have gone for Corey corners. He's a big Fan. Last year's runner up behind Cameron Champ it was four hundred and twenty third third in the world rankings for that event. He didn't have any didn't have full. Pj Status and then he finishes Second Cameron Champs are great effort followed out with third place in the Sony Johny Open. He won the Texas open then he made it all the way to the tour championship finishing the season with with what sale finishing with a wet side as they say he finished any season ranked seventy first in the world so a huge bust up the world rankings. This is where it all started for. Corey Connors. It'd be brimmer self belief coming into this when he talked the the Greensburg location stats last season so yes. I think win number two's coming for corner soon. It could come this week. Just doesn't part well. WHAT DOES HE STEVE. Is that the one thing that stopping him from really getting to that very talk patuone. You're absolutely right in fact he taught the Greens in regulation status staggering it when you consider that the caller around by that yeah that's right he doesn't convert enough opportunities unity's but some you enjoy these last year and this could be the weight where he responds to the flagstick and then we got free more some five in the five but went with five Jackson Scotty Schefter again we are. We're big fans of scripture schefter on this podcast. He's a Texan plane relatively close to home. This week is twenty nineteen. Calm ferry tool will campaign was absolutely glorious he was the star of that silk one twice he finished runner-up twice signed off with four figures of worn eleven seven and then he opened up last week on the PGA tour and finished seventh in the greenbrier. He asked who experience he was ranked one thousand four hundred and fifty ninth in the world when he made his Sanderson Thousand Farms debut last October talk for forty fifth place now. He's up to eighty fourth in the world. I mean what a what a burst that is a top the Greens and regulation snaps last week so Scotty the chef will will win soon possibly this week and then two more Cameron Smith talented youngster he won the Zurich Classic Pez event alongside Jonas blixt across the Mississippi zippy border in two thousand seventeen es at one look at the Sanderson Farms finished eleventh in that twenty sixteen much more confident player threes on and looks like he's returning to deform lately and the big price one or like in this tournament is lobby. Shelton think is potentially a world class players being very very highly thought offer in his today's Today's apparently likes playing close to home if a homeboy might ha- humphries protests them previously but if Shelton got huge future ahead of him I think and this this this this event is very close to home for him. He was born in Alabama raised in Alabama still lives in Alabama last across the Mississippi border is tuned e one twice on the korn-ferry tour this year and they were both in Tennessee which again is across the US neighboring state of Mississippi so he seems to play well close to home and last week he was seventh alongside Scottish effort in the Green Brosseau. It looks like he's going to make the most of his sir. PGA Tour Card this year as it was the negative with the hockey Neem in the young upstart once were last week yeah not many negatives but last year say at that made those amazing costs credentials as you know he was. He was a gift if you love calls for him and this week he's making his calls debut so it's a different kettle of fish. I mean I think a lot of course also think he he could well win but the odds an attractive and if you look at the last four winners we've had Mao netted two hundred and fifty to one cody gridlock hundred injured Ron Omra hundred and twenty-five coming champ at sixty six plus loads and loads massive big price place contender. It's worth pundits taken a chance. If the fence a larger price isn't it absolutely joining six or seven of being maidens six seven winners may thus four being American maiden so yeah this this is a great chance for a lesser light to to make his name although it must be said that now this is a strong strongest ever ad because the price person's gone up used to be alongside the WGC SPEC- champions as an event for the those who didn't qualify for that but now it's the all the attention on it. The prints network has turned up for you got some some big fishing now because there is only one. PGA Tour event this week the real big fish during his tummy STV Dustin. There's a new justice Thomas Season and Cook Kronos kind of guys are they because we've gone reshape calendar this year I guess they haven't been kind of review and renew their schedules and then when they take their downtime absolutely I mean you. Dawson Johnson's recovered from the surgery on it Dustin Johnson a little bit knee surgery after the the phone event played so don't show ease up to but yeah. I think the HSBC champions on the horizon that you get some big guns out for that that it'll be different Justin Thomas play to play the law you pretty much fancied at CJ Cup action yeah. I'm not sure I'm not going to see you too. Hawaiian January dusty dusty Majali go for that Brooks Cook Committee yeah. Yeah I'm not sure all different schedules in the I mean Rory mcilroy very busy boy at the moment you know you think the Fed has cut when it would just chill out for a bit but he's very active on the European. Tour of the play crowns the other day. He's playing went with this week. Yeah it will all different if you were a world top ten gopher Steve. How much would you play probably be doing like tiger. Woods just play sixteen events and you're just win all the majors in stopping the rehabilitate and deal with it deal with sex addictions and whatnot so yeah. I I think I think coming in fresh gophers such a mental game in you gotta you gotta be fresh between the as the play good golf. I mean we best golf when when we got a little break break so yeah I think play maximum sixteen events. Okay jolly good right and okay. Let's round up the selection show. We'd look say no Glenn Sweet. pro-clinton Glen Cott will soon but Steve just summarize for everyone who you fancy this week we'll start with the BMW BMW Shane lowry Joe Slough at home. Marcus Arcus kin halt Alexander Bjork Andrea Pavan and then they sold us in foams championship Santos Champs Shunji in court records owners. I think Glen would have gone for. We'll ask him next week. When he wins Scotty Schefter Cameron Smith and Ruby shelter heard you think Glen would have gone for it went with Pretty Visa. We love these Burger. Disney does love vs Burger and yeah a stiff. Td Green Szeswith suit these burger so yeah. We're put him down for Visa Burger and call Michelle. We Wanna John Okay Jolly good and if you only had one this week it will be the Sujoy Shane Larry each way double doing that. I have done that Tony Good Right. What happens between nextwave only fun stuff lined up in your life a love this events I want to watch as much as possible work hard play hard eat drink heart. Do everything extremely hard still just only fish are no no no. That's ascended a a chat to that when I was Benghazi they they'll PESCA. -Tarian is a month or made a month pesky terrorism in a bid to suit my health out but Yata Roche on Sunday ended on Sunday so it did a month helped a red apple. 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Best And Worst Of 2020; BMW Goes Bananas: Rambling About Cars #1

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Best And Worst Of 2020; BMW Goes Bananas: Rambling About Cars #1

"Ooh it's podcast time. Welcome everybody friends. Enemies boys and girls around the world especially the boys and girls that grew up to be men and women at still play with cars. This is the all new motor. One dot com podcast ran cars. We are back. We change the tires. We pulled into the pits. We knew oil change. We're talking about car news. We're talking about car stuff but we're doing it with a little more pizzazz a lot more fun all kinds of crazy weird topics that you know what should have been discussed a longtime ago. If you want to get news you can always go to motor one dot com. We have the auto news there. We're gonna talk about some news here but we're also like i said we're going to put some we're gonna put some fun into it and it starts today twenty twenty one goodbye twenty twenty. I'm your co host. Christopher smith on the chris on this crazy train no no no i am. Christopher bruce and to make things easy he is smith. I am bruce. There's no reason to work. Get to christmas confused. Let's just make things easy. I eventually this is going to be so popular. It's going to be office space going to be like. I got a meeting with a crisis. You i've got a meeting with the chris's we've been gone a little bit. Our last episode was march of twenty twenty and the motor one podcasts now rambling about cars. And what does that mean well. It means that there's more personality here. Now here's something that a lot of people don't realize Smith and i we right. We generally focus on automotive news. We'll do some features lists and stuff like that but we generally focus on news and what. We're trying to focus on the facts. We're trying to give you the information that you need in a concise way. Plus you know the background stuff like that and we'll sprinkle opinions in there obviously but we can't go on several paragraph diatribe about why this one part of the car bothers us or we can't talk about. 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So podcast motor one dot com and with that stuff out of the way. Let's get into things about that while before we can move forward on the motor one dot com podcast rambling about cars. I'm afraid we need to spend just a little bit more time in twenty twenty. I know nobody wants. Nobody wants to do it. We're gonna we're gonna take the kinder gentler route. We're gonna talk about dishearteningly balk at partially we're gonna talk about and briefly. Some the cars that that we liked that debuted in twenty twenty the cars that we didn't like that debuted twenty twenty Bruce has his favorites and his worst. I have my favorite and my worst. It's important to note that we're not just basing this on popularity or the vehicle that got the most multi bronco of the year. That no this is. Hey this is just our opinion. This is the these vehicles that just either. give us a thumbs up or a face palm. So bruce why don't you start with your what do you want to start with your best research by favorite my thoughts on this were Kind of twofold. There were two cars that debuted this year. That i could realistically afford and that i would actually really really like to own. One of them is the for mentioned bronco and the other one is the new subaru. Pr z and i selected the for this for a pre clear reason and that is just usability for me You know i i'm for. I live in western ohio off. Roading isn't something can really do a lot of. And that's kind of the broncos strong suit whereas i can select kind of the right roads to get to the grocery store where i can still have a little bit of fun and the would do that for so it. I'll be honest that it's a toss up but the winds by a nose. Not that knows. I hope because. I'm still a little torn on to be honest on on the z's face it's just it's a bit it looks. It looks happy. What's wrong and happy. I don't want my. We've we've discussed this before. I don't want my sports cars to be happy. I want my sports cars to be. I wanna take that corner. I wanna hit the apex not look. I'm happy to be out here. Oh look there's a corner high daisies high people. It's just you don't see the knows when you're behind the wheel. I seen it in my head. Okay i hate to say on on that kind of person. I mean it's it's not bad. It's not it's not mazda miata bad affirming out bet but i mean i'm i'm really excited. I'm glad you mentioned that car. Because i'm really excited to see the sti the it's if if it happens it's rumored. I think it's gonna happen think it's going to happen. I think it's going to be a little bit more body. I think it's going to be a little bit more xiaodi and that car. That's kind of what i want. You know. I like it honestly. I kind of liked the simplicity of it. I think it's a pretty car but it's also you know. We don't know what it's going to cost yet. We're expecting very high. Twenty s for base cost probably twenty nine nine ninety five to be clear. I don't know that's the actual number. But if i had to guess it's gonna be right around just shy of thirty. Which is affordable if it's a if you're a younger guy. It's you know it offers a lot. I like it our colleague Brett he compared it to the viper. Which i still don't see. And i've looked at a lot of pictures. But i have to admit he's the only one of us that the seen and person so maybe there's something viper when you see it perp per person. I see it in the headlights. A little bit and and had labels knows but i mean obviously the vipers no is like three times as long but i mean there's yeah there's a little bit. They're happy viper. I see a little bit more like lexus are see in it for some reason. Especially the back. But i don't know. I just really like this car I like the fact that it's got a little bit bigger of an engine. Two point four liter now rather than the two point. Oh so you're getting a little bit more horsepower. You get a little bit more torque Somehow subaru's engineers wait. There's only up seventeen pounds. Which is probably what i put on during covid so if i go on a diet i can make it way as much as a regular first gen b. r. z. Yeah i've i've i've done a little bit more than that. I i had to start my new twenty twenty one program lake now so i have to admit the one downside of this car to me is the interior i. We've talked about this in our teams chat at work and you're going to see it now. That infotainment screen. It's a little rough like it just looked so it looks like it's nineteen ninety seven and like you put a tiny sony. Crt in your car. But also i own a sony crtv from like ninety nine and my game room so i'm not necessarily against it it just it just harsh lines. They don't really match a lot of the other corners and stuff like that. But i bet it's a fun car to drive at. You know who is experienced in these things. Like i said is the only one of us who is actually driven. This car Said so he was a passenger lap with scott speed. But you know it sounds like it's pretty good. I just like it and Like i said the bronco. And this are the two cars that debuted and twenty twenty. That i could see myself owning and i only be are z. Because i think i could have a little bit more fun with it. Given where i live in the conditions. I live in things like that. I'm pretty sure. I could find you some off road places in in ohio i i have some more northwestern. Ohio is a very flat place. So unless i'm going through a cornfield or a soybean field that my options are not limited always just dig the pit and go mud bogging. I mean that's that's the that's the thing you always do. And i gotta be honest. I'm not an off roader okay. I generally not interested in trucks. I'm generally not interested in suv's but i also like the bronco. I i think it looks great. I think i think four did a good job pricing it. The kind of low mid levels the higher ones get a little obscene. But and hey if if you want that that's fine higher end but but they make up for it on the lower end and and just you know kind of browsing around a lot of the bronco forms. A lot of people are looking at the bronco base because it is within reach of a lotta people and it still gives you. It still gives off roaders everything they want. But i'm not here to talk about the bronco before you transition to your best and what do you think i'm crazy about the beer's for like the new one. Oh absolutely not. Absolutely not i mean. It's not an ugly carbon any means. I don't my personal preferences. I don't really like my cars to be happy and it just nor the happiness. A lot of the design drive. I haven't had a chance to drive it. Obviously i american it would be a wonderful to drive the The current be z. Is is just a riot to drive. I see no reason why this would be any different other than four and a couple extra pounds like it you know. It still doesn't have a turbo. Maybe if the sti happens it will since they're using that two point four liter and they have the two point four liter in the ascent and the legacy in the outback. I you know. I'm not an engineer. I don't know if you can make it fit but it seems the packaging is there But even the naturally aspirated one. I think could be fun. So i've said my piece. I think it's time for you to tell me your favourite carpathia. Well you know. I mean i did mentioned the bronco just because it is. It's a very unsmooth choice. I'm not big on off roading But i just i dig. I did what they did with the bronco. I dig that you can get a base model is still has all the cool off road features. But i'm not wanting to talk about the bronco here. I am wanting to talk about the genesis g eighty. It has design cues from the ged suv. And i'm not a big suv's guy and call the genesis lineup. They're adopting those kind of stacked ceiling headlights. It's such a unique look this day and age especially with. Suv's it's so hard to really stand out without doing something stupid like a big grill. And here's another very un smith like choice. The g eighty has a very large crest grill. It's the part of the car that i liked. The least. i'll be honest i could. I could see that grill being a little bit smaller and this car just looking outstanding but even has it is It's such a striking look for a vehicle And it looks great inside to. It's it has a very minimalistic interior. I'm really liking the minimalistic. Look that you get with the genesis products these days really aside from that grill there. There's nothing i would change about this car from the back to the fronts. Just their dual. Slick design is so distinctive. It even has me saying if i was going to get an suv. The eighty would probably be it just because it has such such a dramatic styling any enemy power wise. It has the what is it. It's the three point five liter. v six turbocharged turbo. Three hundred and seventy five horsepower. I think it's i mean it's not a sport sedan but it's going to have enough power to satisfy it's a luxury sedan. And if i wanna go have some fun. I can just something cheap and and sporty go. Have some fun with that. I see myself driving that. Gb or the the eighty just all over the place with enough power to satisfy a comfortable ride but still is aggressive enough to where. If i want to add a little bit of fun on some backwards i can I think our colleague Senior editor jeff peres drove it and and he and i don't agree on a lot of things he's a he's a he's a very he's unique taste he he's he has. He is smarter than most people realize when it comes to cars and he has a very very keen eye for what's good and what's bad about a vehicle. He loves the gm jeff likes them some big wheels. He likes he likes to wheels. He likes the gemini. I'm not a big no. But he loves it. And i love it. It's such a standout vehicle in admittedly dine sedan. Segment out of segments ever gonna die and and the. Ged is the car that that i would choose this year. Hands down there really. Isn't anything even remotely close. And i'm not i'm not remotely available or able to afford it but that's not what this is about. This is about just picking a car that That we love. So that's my choice. I mean i just go ahead. Go ahead on me no. It's not. I dislike it. It's just that it doesn't do much for me. And maybe it's because. I feel like that. Genesis split headlight thing. Big girl think looks better on crossovers than it does sedans. It just fit. Like i think the gv eighty is the better looking one if that grill was a little bit smaller and it didn't come to the crest point at the bottom. I think the g eighty would look a lot better. It doesn't need a really tiny grill though. And i'm probably the biggest proponent of getting rid of those godawful wall weighs grills that are on everything these days but that car still seems to even even with that big crest grill. I think it's still wears it fairly well. It would look a little little bit smaller and it. I have to say that photo you showed if the interior what i like about. It is that today a lot of even luxury. Cars have kind of tried to become sports. Sedans and that interior is very much prioritizes luxury over sporting us off. It's you know it's a very simple on simple but it's a two spoke steering wheel. It's not kind of forty three spoke It's it's very much more about keeping you and your passengers comfortable rather than like trying to you. Know do a lap around the nurburgring. Is it wrong that i kind of want a column shifter in that car is weird is it gets a little weird isn't it. Yeah it's a little at. We know it's a but i like that though. I like that about it that you know most people. The vast majority of people are never going to take their cargo. The track or a never going to push their car that hard. So you're way better off. And i don't understand. Why more automakers don't do this bill car. That's comfortable on the highway. That prioritizes that overlap times you know things like that just make something big and comfortable. And that's what i like about the ged like for whatever. Reason genesis is. This is going to sound like a backhanded compliment in the modern world. And i don't mean it to be. Genesis is buick in the nineteen sixties interesting. That's that's an interesting take. I like where you're going with that because buick in the nineteen sixties. They had the kind of that luxury thing. But then i mean you could get like a like four fifty five in some and just yeah just roast tires for like three quarters of a mile you know. I guess the way. I mean that is that it is. It's a luxury car with a little bit of sporting pretensions but doesn't forget about the comfort of the people inside of it and i think and maybe this is an interesting take on the state of sedans these days I mean you make a good point about not every car needs to be really fine tuned for alternate performance in. And we're seeing that s- but the we're seeing the opposite of that with sev's now. The suv is what the sedan was. Maybe twenty years ago and and the sedan. No is more considered of okay. Well this is your this. Is your your heart or core. Sports car with four doors and can have a sedan. That isn't at least in some form. Ready to go around the nurburgring and you're right. Not every card needs to needs to be that that said i wouldn't mind You know a a harder core g eighty amari saying it but why why not just outfit one with all of the luxury stuff you know team. Work is never enough. It doesn't make sex. That's why that's why we are who we are. That's why we love cars doesn't always it doesn't always make sense. I don't may says. I'm not making sense right now. I want a hardcore hardcore g. eighty. Even though i'm already in love with it would've harder core means more comfortable. Yeah more in any kind of direction. Any quadrant could be better in a certain way. It's so i bring this up because our boss john neff has. He is eyeing lintel lincoln continental coach additions. Which the coach doors. Because he knows they're gonna get cheap eventually and they're going to be cool eventually like they were there so few of them they made so few of them. It's it's kinda cool and not wrong. So yeah he. He's not wrong they will be pretty cool Cool right now. But i've always been a sedan afford them right now. I can afford them. They'll be a whole lot more cool while but they. This raises the question. Will they drop in value that much because there are so few of them. I mean every car is a depreciation curve like where that where the the trough is. it's going to vary but it's also the fact that the lincoln brand is kind of a weird spot. I think that only people who know like us are going to seek them out for a certain period of time. There's going to be a point where they're at the very kind of Not the bottom of the trough but as they're going down where no one's gonna realize and that's going to be the point to snap them up and then they're going to go back up because like you said they're so aware that but here's the thing we're so used to lincoln town cars right Where okay a lincoln towncar was. What like i think. Like fifty or fifty five grand at one point at its at its peak and you can go now for like you know two grand. I mean we're so used to seeing lincoln's do that but here's a car little hasn't depreciation but i don't think it's going to drop nearly as much as people think it will. I think it's going to stay up there because so fewer made because it has such distinctive styling from lincoln's Past and i think. I think that depreciation is going to be actually rather shallow okay. You know what they're what three years old now was. That right wasted. Say someone like that. This is a situation. I'm very happy to watch big cheap enough. I'll buy one. I know right. Yeah anyway so. tell me. tell me what you won't buy though house. Tell me what you won't buy so compact crossover are a huge thing right. Now that i mean can you. Can you fight me on that. Like the that's kind of the hot segment. They are everywhere. Yeah and so this year. Volkswagen introduced the one that it's going to bring into the us namely the talos. Am i saying that. Right tells new mexico. Isn't that the correct pronunciation. It doesn't matter. I don't like it either talos. I'm not. i gotta be honest. Ohio when i'm not entirely sure how to say the name of that city and it's going to be volkswagen's entry into that segment and it bores me tears. I don't even see vehicle in this in this photo. Up there i'd yield. And there's there's something that looks very generic in the middle and it kind of depresses me. Because since volkswagen's not bringing the gulf into the country into the united states. This is in a way the defacto replacement for the gulf and this thing is just boring like i know we were supposed to select our worst debut and to me. The worst debut is a car. That i kinda sort of forgot about and a car. That just does nothing for me like. It's probably going to be fine. But it's just it's like they didn't matter that they didn't try but that they tried to emulate The tig on so much that they didn't try to give this model any Personality of its own. It looks like compliance piece to me. I mean i think that's the best way to describe it. They needed something in that genre so segment and they're like well here. We go and honestly in that photo. It looks like a previous gen. Honda cr v. to me. Yeah i can. I can certainly see them. The jeep compass to it looks. It looks like it. Looks like everything and nothing. Yeah and and you know what is not necessarily all volkswagens because there are so many vehicles in this segment right now. It's it's exceedingly difficult to try to figure out a way to stand out now volkswagen. They've always been rather understated in styling of course and so stated and then there's generic you know right and i would. I would agree with you a bomb. Assuming you're saying that this is this falls on the generic side. I can't see anyone having any passion for this design and the thing is with volkswagen in the us that they're kind of the border. Unin niche brand that it's affordable but a honda toyota ford lake. There are a lot of brands that i could up spending less on. That might give me more end. So i don't know why i would pick this over any of those. I think volkswagen enthusiasts or people loyalty. Volkswagen will buy it But i i struggle to to understand how they would attract a new buyer with that. Yeah you know. I i mean like if someone worked i just like i'm saying it. It's not a bad car. It's just a boring car. Like i just don't know i don't know why would select this over the other compact crossover on the market and there are so many to choose from well like i said i. I see this appealing to people that are already in the volkswagen family I just i just don't see anybody else. Picking it up. I i agree one hundred and twenty thousand percent that volkswagen. You can do better. It doesn't evoke any feelings than me. So that's where i am. So yeah i want to know what your worst of the year is because i already know and i kinda district. Oh you disagree okay. Well this this pick isn't generic. I will say that it's not a generic vehicle at all. You will recognize it instantly whether you see it or you hear it because it's for jeep wrangler various. Oh my god. This is no. You've this some people could be listening to. This is not a jeep wrangler. It is a jeep wrangler rubicon. Three ninety two. I had a hemi won't their ego. It's yes it's the twenty twenty one jeep wrangler rubicon three two former motor one dot com executive editor. Seth meyers said it. Better than anybody else in the entire world. And i'm going to steal his his tweet yet again. Omg well i. i'm to paraphrase. Because i don't think was exactly right. Omg this is exactly what i wanted from jeep to get me to buy a wrangler a wrangler. That'll do zero to sixty five seconds. Said nobody ever. What what this made. My pick has the worst because it's ugly. I mean it. Hey it looks cool. It's got a v. Eight. it's cool it. Mike cost like eight hundred thousand dollars which is another story for another time. That's an unconfirmed report It was what i think about a week or two ago. Seventy eight something something. Something as i recall the somebody claimed that an order guide or an order. An order form had leaked champagne. A price of yeah. Like seventy seven thousand dollars. We have no idea if that's a fully option model if that's a first edition special model something like that. It sounds vaguely accurate. Like i would believe. Oh i would totally thing about that number that i think. Oh that's out of the realm of possibility. I i would totally believe it. Just because you know hemi. And and to to fca's credit specially with dodge. The certainly made a lot of money on hemi and just selling that tad c'mon red is all things The the wrangler rubicon three ninety two. It's on my list because it's a vehicle that exist for all the wrong reasons don't agree who who is asking for a hemi powered jeep wrangler. Yes there are some aftermarket companies. That'll do v8 eight swaps but the vast vast vast majority of wrangler people. They're interested in off roading. They're interested in going into drag mode and launch mode and taking their wrangler to the drag strip running down the drag strip. They're not interested in getting to sixty miles an hour and five seconds. They're interested in crawling over rocks in getting down trails. In fact when you get into the into the crowd into the wrangler crowd there's even a sect bats. It completely hates the four door wrangler because when you drive when you drive to door wrangler with a shorter wheelbase versus the four door wrangler. You realize the four door. Wrangler is kinda poser mobile and and they're starts the first of the chain of e mails coming to podcast motor dot com smith. How can you say. A wrangler is a poser. Mobile the four. The four door kind of is they're. They're selling that to the people that are really going to go off road that much even the way it can but i'm wondering stop you a second. Okay okay okay. So ford or bronco. Oppose her mobile. You know that's a good question. I'm sorry it. I mean ford has lost. It has a two door and four door. So i mean the wrangler back in the in the old days back when we're still talking about it was always just a little two-door thing that was designed to to to run through run through the forest woods places where there weren't even any drills then again the broncos kind of that way too so it is a four door. Bronco poser mobile. You know we'll have to see to find out what we'll have to stay tuned to find out But the reason the wrangler three ninety two here is because jeep brought this to market simply because of the bronco of of what you're talking about. It's nothing more than a desperate response to all of this hype in all of this excitement. That ford has over the bronco creek. Did they debut on the same day or a day apart. it's close. It was right there the while the three. I think the concept. Yeah you're right. Jeep debuted their concept 392. Same day as the bronco. Same day okay. So so right then. It's like oh boy okay. Jeep is clearly and rightfully scared. As hell right now because of all of this hype about the bronco and when you see that there are What i think one hundred ninety thousand reservations that were in for the of course reservations. That's not necessarily doesn't necessarily mean You know sales because people can still back out of those but from everything that we've seen on our side. I mean the bronco debuted months ago. We're still talking about it probably two or three times a week. People still love it and people still love it folks. the reason you might have bronco fatigue. We kind of have bronco fatigue to the reason. We're still talking about two or three times. A week is because people want to read about it. We wouldn't be writing the stuff. We wouldn't be covering this stuff if if our traffic of our staff wasn't telling us hey. People are really interested in that so that is still on the minds of a lot of people. The rubicon three ninety-two. We did the debut post and then on the debut we did the concept we did the debut post and then we did the post recently about it possibly costing seventy seven thousand dollars So there isn't. There isn't a lot of hype. There is a lot of talk about the three ninety-two it's going to be vehicle that a few hardcore more people will get the rest that want. It won't be able to afford it. And it doesn't fit into the jeep demographic anyways and i mentioned this in our in our festivus airing of grievances before christmas. Where a business when you when you answer the when you answer the call of a competitor you need to be smart about it. You don't just respond you come up with a plan and you offer something better. What jeep date here. They just responded. Here's this bronco. Everybody's talking about this bronco there are aspects of this bronco that arguably better than the wrangler there are aspects that are arguably worse than the wrangler instead of making a better wrangler to compete with bronco they shoved deviate in it and not only that they contradicted themselves from about so i think a year or two ago when there was talk about putting a hell cat a wrangler jeep said well no technically it fits but the engine sorta becomes the crumple zone of the jeep. So i'm really curious to hear how the the rubicon 392 does in a in a head on crash setting so it's just it's very sad. It's very disappointing. It's a very. It's a very clear and obvious. Desperate attempts on you know from my point of view. And i think the point of view a lot of people on jeep to just try to do anything that they can to slow down someone of his bronco. Excitement jeep cells. I think about two hundred thousand wrangler. We discussed some sales numbers in from twenty twenty Just today i think that had wrangler selling about two hundred thousand so now all of a sudden. They're their main competitor. Now that haven't adding had haven't had competition for decades now. They have a competitor. That has one hundred ninety thousand reservations. If i was jeep. I'd be worried too. But i wouldn't be responding with a crazy wrangler that very few people are going to buy. I'd be responding with something better than the bronco. That's why it's on my list. I'm going to play devil's advocate. Just a second. And i want it to me known aid. I agree with a lot of what you said it. In general i agree with what you said a. V8 eight wrangler still really cool like just from just from a pure like i like cars point of you. A va into wrangler. Just as kinda cool also. It should be noted. I live near toledo and i visited the toledo factory. And so maybe i have a little bit a bias towards jeep. I also learned to drive manual on a wrangler. But you're not wrong. But i can see why the folks at jeep when all of this bronco stuff was coming out that they decided. What's something relatively low effort we can. Do you know not to say that. There was no engineering in this or anything like that. But obviously that v. eight existed on the shelf the wrangler existed. Hey you figure out how to put this into this okay. Is it really low effort. Though i mean i mean what all had to go into that wrangler i mean i'm going by what they said like a year year and a half ago when they said you know from from a point of view of crashing in crash standards and i couldn't i didn't have very tight so okay and and i i i put some feelers out and i never really got an answer from gps of anybody from listening. I would very much like to know what's different on the three ninety two In what when it comes to to head on crashes what what's what's done differently up there. I guess my point is. I feel like this is just the start. That jeep clearly has its hackles up and knows that the wrangler really really for sure has competition this time like there was the fj cruiser. Has there been anything else. Now yeah going gonna have this You know this small off roading segment for a long time. I mean the. I mean you could. You could argue back in the day with zucchini samurais and things like that. But even the first gen wrangler trailblazer and stuff are the first gen bronco in trailblazer and stuff. Like it's been a while and you know my feeling on this is that jeep knows. They have competition now and they're gonna come up with some planned really good because they know that they have to and that this is just the beginning and you know i. I have to agree with a lot of your points. But you know with what they had. They needed to maximize the news cycle as much as they could. And this is what do. But i mean i mean did they did they have to try to dominate the news cycle. They could have just they curved the voter out. I mean bronco was going to be everywhere no matter what anybody did. I think it can be easily said that trying to step in and steal. Some of their thunder just comes across has has just a ridiculous desperation. Move because i mean. That's what i i thought when they debuted the concept the same days. The bronco it's just like wow well that's convenient and felt that way. Yeah and now here. The are with with a production version. That's very few people by. I mean you could argue that. Hey it it's a halo vehicle jeep. It'll bring more people into dealerships to buy less expensive ramblers. I guess the question is we're those people are gonna come in anyways. And like i said. I i very much largely agree with your point. I just wanted to play devil's advocate enough to say this is probably help. Jeep is looking at. Thanks so you know. Don't misinterpret this anyone that's listening. I'm saying but you know. I have to be contrary to what i've sent emails to podcast at motor one dot com. That's i know you have opinions on this You can you can join team smith. You can join team. Bruce he can join team jeep My team is but email us. Know your thoughts on this and of course you can catch us on our youtube channel. You can catch us on apple podcasts. We're going to be working on spotify. Yup works let's let's move on to a new segment. Let's tell. I wanna thank everyone who's listening right now because you know we're getting started again. I wanna thank everyone who's watching on youtube. Who can see the images that were putting up. I wanna thank everyone. Who's listening on spotify or i tunes or what have you i. I believe we'll be on other services at some point but it will definitely be spotify tunes. I I think everyone that's here but it's time to move into a different segment and is a interesting one. I will let mr smith introduced. It's it's one thing that we're gonna do on. This show is is have some semi recurring segments every once in a while. Today we're gonna call this one. What the hell were they thinking. And we're looking at you. Bmw and we're going to try to not be too extreme. And i can imagine. I wanna put this out there. I am a former east thirty. Bmw three twenty five which was very very base model At the two point seven liter. Inline six the engine similar with it. I drove it through college So i am not a bmw hater by any stretch but we need to talk. Am w we. We need to have a discussion. And now it's time we do. And i'm not a hater either. I've never owned one. I almost bought an e twenty four several years ago. that was kind of in love with. I'm still in love with a twenty four is the. I love the forty six. I mean yeah. I'm definitely not a hater. Actually i learned to drive a manual transmission on a brand new thirty-six. It wasn't an m three. It was now what i think. A three twenty six twenty. I worked i worked at a bmw dealership and they were like you can drive. Drive a stick right now. It's the kid. Can you know i. I remember goofing around with my brothers ford escort way back in the day that emmanuel when it was sitting in the garage with. They'll engine in it. So how hard can it be. So no we're not. Bmw haters no no no but but bmw also sit down. We need to talk. When did bmw make a v ten for the m. Two i think people are. No i think i think they know what we're talking about. I think over new year's Bmw dropped just a little thing on their Social media feeds And it it just happened to be video. Drifting into twenty twenty one corrected parsley smoke everywhere. But boy that didn't sound like an inline. six did it. bruce did not know. It sounded like a lamborghini v ten. It did yeah and you know who noticed a lot of everybody. Everybody notice now. Bmw you're supposed to be an enthusiast brand you marketed. Yourself has enthusiasts branch for decades and decades. You know who are really really particular when it comes to cars enthusiasts. Yes so it should be no surprise. That bmw picked up or bmw. People picked up on this right away and then non bmw people picked up on it right away and then joke in the rest of the world's picked up on it right away You know we wrote an article. That that i'm showing up here on the screen right now for those on on youtube. Bmw pulled their video down. not really surprising but jason kameda He managed to catch it before. Bmw took it down and he posed. He posed a great question. If these companies can't make a decent ad why why wonder why they can't make decent cars. You know i. It sets a short unchain away. 'cause advertising game the engineering team. They aren't the same but his point. Kind also stand but the point stands because we have to look at it at a bigger picture here. This was more than just one bad. Yeah i mean this this ad was. It's like come on bmw. Who you trying to fool here. We know were the as we know what engine sound like. Especially a v ten. Are they making utter crap cars while they have the four series with that big grill that is been universally now. Maybe not universally but there are so we've seen so much negativity on that grill and it's just like they're just pushing forward like so. I like to address this. I can't call the four series of crap car. Because i've not driven one. But that design i and i know design is in you know. It's a subjective thing. That design is bad. it is. It's bad they started with the four series and then naturally went to the m four which we all expected and then for some reason they put it on the m three. I don't i don't understand the m three because a w did did bmw. I can't remember. I have to go back and try to find a specific article but i seem to recall a one point. Bmw sane. This is going to be a design. Cue that sticks with the four series and they almost. It was almost like an experiment with the four series. Like we're gonna the forest series. We're gonna see how people react. You know we'll go from there and just clearly from when the cars were designed the m three and the four must have been on the page at the same time and so it seems like that that pr message didn't match the actual design message and we ended up with an m three with an employer knows. It's the ugliest m three in age. I think it's the ugliest m three period and go back to go back earlier. What you were saying. Bruce about the z. In and but who cares how happy it looks. You're driving behind the wheel. How do you feel about the bmw. M. three would you still be having a blast behind the okay. Yeah you'd have a. I'd have a blast behind the wheel car but then you think about how it looks and no has much more of an image around it that a subaru does no. Right is a subaru. Buying into the subaru in but people do that with a bmw that there's a certain like there's class style and then you look at this new app three and you're like oh my why does it have that big knows why does it. Why is it look like that. And then you look at the floor series and you're like wait four series. Looks like that too. And then you look at the m four and then if you'll hold on just second you'll realize that like maybe bmw design as kind of lost. Its way. because here's what we think. The refreshed x seven is going to look like and for anyone who can't see it. Just imagine something crawling on you in the middle of the night. That's that's looks like. I'll be a little bit more specific. They move the headlights down so that they're now kind of on the lower edge of the grill and they're now these like really skinny what i assume are signals. Maybe ring lights along the upper edge that they split them in half and it looks like an insect because of the way that the kidney grilles are it looks like it looks like a fly. Almost you could see like the two little sets of wings. And i don't know who thought that was a good idea you know that doesn't bother me as much as as the grill and to be fair. It's not just the grill on the four series and the m for the three. Bmw made those cars just extremely busy from a design point too much in my opinion. It's way over designed up front. The i mean the big grill obviously gets the attention but these weird split headlights aren't over designed to you because that reeks of kind of splitting things up for no real reason to me. I don't know that it's over designed. The proportions aren't right. the the proportions are completely off. If we go back to the to the eighty and eighty. I mean you kind of have you know the the split design right there with well. That's because they match their in proportion you have. I mean you have basically two separate tiers of lights here. That don't really have any sort of relation to each other and relation right just super-quick. The big grill thing is not. We can't even say it's functional because we're seeing on the i x which is a purely electric vehicle and it still has the massive girl yep and i mean it's definitely a design direction and to be honest. Bmw's in the distant past had these big long tall grills the smaller grills that we used to through the eighties and the nineties And to some degree still in the two thousands. I mean that's certainly its own era of bmw design. I feel like bmw is trying to take themselves in a new direction which is fine but when you start hearing and reading all of the negative feedback that this designer action is taking you. There has to come a point where you ask. Okay automaker. are you actually listening to the people that are interested in your brand and are you. Are you listening to the people that want to buy your car or are you listening to a small focus group that hopefully you didn't pay a lot of money for because they're completely freaking wrong. You know i mean that's and that's how it ties into the video that they posted over new years of the m two with the fan soundtrack. Put over top of it. I'm sure it was. It was outsourced some marketing company. And maybe they didn't. The i mean maybe they didn't realize exactly what they were doing. But then again there must have been somebody a bmw that signed off on that sure now would be w even ten years ago had done a video like that bruce do you think. Do you think that would have gone out with with an obvious engine overlay. I have to assume not. It's not it's not something that i know that they've done in the past. It just kind of reeks of not necessarily is it reeks of inattention in attention. And and not being attentive of you and your brand of what you're putting out into the world and not authentic. it's it's It's almost like well. We don't really care what you people think we're bmw you need. You need to care what we think and That's that's that's a dangerous place to go but it but it doesn't stop there. It doesn't stop no with the video. Have been more bmw. I hope you're sitting down some of the some of the decisions they're making when it comes to subscriptions making people pay extra four items that you wouldn't pay extra elsewhere but i think there's there is the the heated seat issue that came up recently. Well apple carplay was kind of the first one. That was that was worth thirty. Yep well that that's kind of where it started is that there was after a certain period of time. I was either two years or three years. I'm sorry. I don't have the information right in front of me. You had to pay a subscription to retain apple carplay functionality. And that wouldn't be so bad except that. No other automaker really had that that you know if you bought a honda you got apple carplay so the fact that if you bought a bmw that you had to pay for that. After whatever grace period. I apologize i don't have that info in front of me that it seemed it felt like regis like it felt like they were just right milk their customers for no good reason. That's because they were trying to milk their customers for no good reason. I mean i mean it's it's we don't need to sugarcoat that that's a cash grab. Here's here's a basic option that comes in your car. I mean you could almost equate it to a bait and switch tactic of the old dealership From from the eighties and the nineties and the seventy s and actually still goes on today. Oh here's this item. We'll give it to you for free for a little while for and that you can and then you can pay for it afterwards Yeah i mean it's it's a bait and switch and they're they're looking to do it now with with heated seats. Yeah there you go. I have pulled on your for those on youtube. Got pulled up here now and in any bucks a year for apple carplay in your new. Bmw that you pay probably eighty or ninety grandfather and we do need to be fair that eventually they rescinded that that it was like an idea that came to them that they thought about for a while and then they're like oh no people don't like this people are accepting this but the very idea that they came up with it that it got through. I mean smith you know how many meetings we go through to get anything done that. Lord knows at a corporation the size of bmw that it had to have gone through several tiers of people that they okayed this and then the backlash Okay we messed that one up. So yeah it but it brings us back to the overarching question at hand. Here is bmw really in touch with its customers anymore. Would bmw have would be w of fifteen twenty twenty years ago gone forward with his big grill after hearing so much negative backlash would be w a fifteen or twenty years ago. Put out a video over dubbing the sound of one of their best performance cars that you can get right now. The empty competition is amazing. It is in the in line. Six is amazing. Is that the best sounding engine. You know what. It's not a bad sounding engine. I don't know why they just couldn't have that. That engine to sing in its own tune. Why do they have to put a v ten in there and do you the tab available of bit weird billboards that they were going to try to do in the uk. I can pull that up. Right isn't a matter of fact i have. It's you beat me to it. So and this this article. I mean this came out just what a few weeks ago. December twenty four th. So if you haven't heard about this folks. This is a smart billboard that is is promoting and so we again much like the subscription plan. They proposed it. It looked like they were going to implement it. And then signing some things happened and they switch things around well. I thought it was still going forward but it was. It was misunderstood. let's let's Let's kind of boil it down. Initially we thought that the smart billboards was going to remotely connect to. Bmw's that obviously had over the air update capability going to scan the number plates in the uk. and then. oh that's right the way that the original story said it was shame them it. That's a bit it. Would it would show it would scan the vehicles and then it would show up basically a personalized message to that owner theme. Hey your bmw's warranty is about to expire or is out of warranty. Maybe you should think about getting the note used to create your factory. I can't sell factory warranty basically giving the big brother impression of big brother. Bmw is watching you wherever you drive car and a kind of had that that kind of spooky field to it now. They they did. Walk it back right right so they are still scanning the numberplates in the uk but is now if your vehicle is older than a certain period than it puts up a message saying hey you should renew your factory warranty. So it doesn't specifically name a person but if there is a bmw in the line at the stop light and it woke sees that that person sitting there than that information up which is still feels creepy. It's hell feels very creepy. I mean even even if they aren't dipping into personal information even if they can just tell okay that's a that's a twenty fifteen bmw. Let's let's Let's put this targeted. And i mean what it's like basic is targeted ads on the internet. Right it's like they're pulling taking it into into real are and that like you're getting the targeted ad. Oh you visited. I don't know what site maybe you want. X. y. z. Like rice creepy and once again would be am w of fifteen years ago that they've done that i mean it. It feels like they're just not really considering their consumer the way you like we want you we wanna get we want to wring every last pound since the uk of you that we can. Would you know we want every cent and it it. Just there's nothing like more Morally wrong with it. It just feels creepy like that. You would do that and like put that add up in traffic and maybe like. That's a weird minority report type thing but mister and that's why we're talking about this What happened to the days of this. Bmw being the ultimate driving machine. I mean that was a that was a simple a simple ad campaign and they had the vehicles tobacco up. Bmw makes amazing performance vehicles. Amazing such michael's right now. Yeah what but i feel like. They're acting like a sleazy used car dealership. That moves certainly is like it. Feels like one side isn't talking to the other because every point that we've put out here that's a different side of the company that's bmw uk on one side. Bmw design on another side. It's whoever the tech people are but all of those things together. It just paints the portrait of a company that doesn't quite see a concerted way. Forward that they don't know where they're going and everyone is kind of flailing to get their own little bit of the pie while they can and it just looks bad for a historically great german brand especially when you compare them to mercedes benz which the new s class looks fantastic. Maybe it's a little cookie cutter But from the spy shots we've seen the class. Looks like a mini s class. Like mercedes seems to have reseda. Seems to know where it's going this coming week. We're gonna see or maybe maybe it's next week. Whatever virtual cbs's We're gonna see the new iki s which is going to be their flagship tesla fighting electric car. And it's going to have this massive a virtual display that the entire dashboard. Like you look at mercedes and you're like oh that's a company that knows where it's going. Everyone is on board and going in the same direction. Then you see bmw and the design team isn't quite right. The tech team is like trying to pull somebody out of people like no one is quite on board. And it's am. I wrong here like do you see what i'm saying. I do i think they. I think the direction is a little more focused than a than maybe you believe. Okay but but but i think the problem is they. They're set in one specific direction and they're not gonna listen to anybody else. Tell them how to get there. Because dammit there bmw they know how to get there and no company no business gets to where they need to go just by making the decisions that they think they have to make. They need to listen to their audience. They need to listen to the people that are buying their vehicles and they need to stop acting as like cheap used car salesman. I mean i mean that's that's what strikes me more than anything in this. They're they're trying to get a cash grab anywhere they can. Which a businesses you need to make profit. That's fine so maybe there dipping a toe into some of these subscription services. And you know what i hate to say. They cadillac followed suit a little bit with their super cruise. And that's going to go throughout gm. Soon that we're gonna isn't it'll see in the him. Yep and and you know what i mean. I don't wanna. I don't wanna draw in any stereotypes. I wonder if some manufacturers maybe are little more prone to it than others. I wouldn't expect this from bmw of said this earlier. I wouldn't expect bmw of a brand with with the history that it has to go for the cheap cash grabs you know. I expect bmw to make a cadillac. Cimarron is what i'd say it. Okay yeah they wouldn't make a cadillac cimarron now. I'm starting to wonder if they're thinking about it and it's bmw doesn't feel like bmw okay. Bmw bmw feels like an alter world. Copy that sky net made because it has this overarching plan of global domination. And they're just going to kind of shove this down the people's throats until one day they wake up in their cars. Kill them about. Maybe i went to a dark place there. I have been watching westworld for a while. I i think. I could put that same point slightly. Different way is that this has to balance profits vs customer satisfaction and so in our industry. You could run a website with absolutely zero ads with the greatest content in the world and make zero money and on the opposite of that you can charge two thousand dollars a year and copy the content from everybody else and not do anything and there's a balance there and it feels like right now. Bmw is very much more in a place where it wants to extract prophets over customer value. And it hasn't felt that way in the past that there has been. I'm thinking the forty six thirty six thirty nine. Bmw's where those were certainly luxury products. No one can doubt that but that they gave a certain value for money when you bought them. You spent a premium and you've got a premium whereas right now it feels like you spend that premium and they want a little bit more go. It's like you spend the premium and you get the premium for a little while and you get that for three years away. Yeah yeah why. Don't you want to pay again for what you already bought an open. You know when we catch you going down the highway. We're going to see you and remind you that you know you need to buy our extended warranty and and i mean it's like where does it go from there. Bmw we want. We want you back. We love you bmw. We really but what you're doing right now when when you say we don't mind that aftermarket companies are offering new front facial for our cars your that like to share their quick or you. I don't have that in front of me. But it's like grand marine. You should mind. Why wouldn't you be upset. That companies are making different front front facials to put on your cars because people want them out. I mean that's another example of comes up you. Bmw what are you doing you know. And these these aftermarket front faces. They they make the cars look pretty good. At least according to the renderings we've seen you four series. Look pretty attractive artist okay. Let's let's take a look here. Is that a free. Yeah the the it's up. It's it's it's a picture of the headline pm. Fine with people customizing new four series. Let me see if i can scroll down and get the agile. Love is sub head. Like everybody hates it. Now it's official. Yeah it'd be offerings at bmw. They're very expressive piece. Expressive is an interesting word. Certainly or you even put on aftermarket parts and great wheels and stuff. Like this so yeah. It's weird that even bmw's a if you don't if this isn't for you we understand you change that and here's the thing front facial like this. Isn't that hard to change now and bmw had ample ample warning that you know what maybe people weren't going to be too hot on his big grill design. Yeah because they showed it on concepts and people are like no no no. No nope nope nope and we saw. What chevrolet did with the camaro refreshed it like a word. Yeah the simple. A simple refresh. Now i didn't think i didn't think the camaro redesigned look that bad. Actually i think i think the i think they're update looks better but we know manufacturers can do that. Yeah so with all the negative feedback. You know what they've got the four series already in the bank okay. Let's go with this for a while. Maybe maybe it'll grow on people but then okay now here comes for the m three. The three series didn't have that grill to start with. There's no reason we needed that. Meet of that design lena. We're seeing it on the other electric vehicles. They don't even need a grill. So yeah it all comes together to paints concerning picture of bmw. What's wrong where are you going. What are you thinking so. I think we hit that point pretty hard and again. I don't want this to sound like we hate. Bmw's there's a guy up my street that has a in eastern nine is at the late nineties. Five series s is in thirty nine. That's one of those and if it ever goes up for sale. I might end up buying it like i. I do have a real love for. Bmw's specially the inline six models. Because i get like w mate inline sixes practically like no one else like you could put him against anyone in the world in this we're saying is because we want that. Bmw back you can still have that bmw today even with with electric power you can still have that involvements you can still have bmw personality absolute. We're we're hoping bmw chain to some course here and i think with all the evidence we have here. There's evidence to say okay. Maybe there's something a little bit more going on here. Folks email us at podcast motor one dot com are we. Are we crazy. Are we talking about conspiracy theories here. Yeah are we out of touch. Like it's like smith and i have covered the auto industry or worked in the auto industry between us for decades. And so maybe we don't know what the average person wants anymore. I don't feel that way i like. Maybe we're way off. And if we are ellis. I don't think so. I think we got this pretty low covered. Yeah podcast motor dot com. You can catch us on youtube. You can catch us on apple coming out of fai soon. So that's the thing You will definitely see us on youtube at apple podcasts. 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Model Y Long Range Will Surprise, Coronavirus Cases, China Rumors, Giga Texas, BMW iX3 (07.14.20)

Tesla Daily: Tesla News & Analysis

13:17 min | 10 months ago

Model Y Long Range Will Surprise, Coronavirus Cases, China Rumors, Giga Texas, BMW iX3 (07.14.20)

"Everybody round our here and today we have a number of different pieces of news to go through on a Tesla, as well as news on competition, and on the macro environment, and as I, said yesterday I want to talk a little bit more about the news. We got over the weekend specifically on Mata. Why the first topic I want to cover here sort of spans new developments over the last three days, and unfortunately it is corona virus. Everyone has their. Their own metrics and stats that they prefer to look at for this so I don't WanNa. Get too into detail on that, but new cases have continued to rise in the United States were now saying the death count start to rise again as well and with that we are seeing reopenings scaled-back more restrictions, being put in place and such location doing that as California on Sunday California announced that effective July thirteenth so yesterday. Monday that all counties must close indoor. In the following sectors dining restaurants, wineries and tasting rooms, movie theaters, family, entertainment centers, Zoos Museums and card rooms, and that bars and similar must close down operations unless they are offering. Sit Down outdoor dining meals, and that alcohol could only be sold in the same transaction as a meal. Additionally California has a county monitoring a list which monitors counties for elevated disease transmission increasing. Increasing hospitalization and limited hospital capacity and counties that are on that monitoring list for three consecutive days are required to shutdown fitness centers, worship services, protests offices for non-essential sectors, personal care, services, hair, salons, barber, shops and malls, unless those things can be more to operate outside or by pickup, so at least at this point in time, none of those would seem to have an. An impact on Tesla's operations, but obviously it's not great to see the trend moving in that direction and Alameda. County is on the monitoring list though it has been on the list for fewer than three days at this point I believe that'll change though, because on Sunday Alameda. County announced that they had been added to the list. As far as Tesla goes, WE HAVE A. A report today from electric, which claims to have obtained Tesla's corona virus tracking data. The report that they show goes through with twenty eight. That's likely either July. Fourth or July eleventh and tracks a few metrics, most notably affected cases and number of positive cases, so the positive case number is somewhere in the one hundred thirty range electric blurs out that last digit and. And the affected cases is over fifteen hundred that seems to be a form of contact. Tracing Tesla has roughly ten thousand employees in Fremont. So that's about one point three percent while Alameda County has about eighty three hundred positive reported cases so far on a population of roughly one point seven million, so about half a percent, which doesn't sound great for Tesla, but at the. The same time. That's not necessarily comparable data because I would imagine that workers at Tesla have been tested more often than the county's general population does also employs the population that have the highest rates per one hundred thousand population in Alameda County eighteen, thirty, thirty, one to forty and forty one to fifty with positive tests in those age brackets in Alameda County ranging from zero. Zero Point six two percent zero point seven five percent. I'll higher than Alameda County's general population, which again was about zero point five zero percent so with that data you're free to come to your own conclusion about whether the one point three percent rate from Tesla's higher not, but either way it does look like affected. Cases have increasing by week. That could be a result. Result more robust contact racing as time goes by or result of more testing, but again not really the trend that anybody wants to see and if there is quarantining of Tesla's team members in that continues to expand, that could easily impact production rates, and if things continue to worsen, further restrictions could be implemented further impacting production rates, or eventually we could see another shutdown. None of that is the case, but it certainly a risk worth keeping an eye on all right next up today. I WanNa talk about a little bit of confusing reporting on a developing situation in China. The seems to stem from a Channel News Asia. Dot Com report with the headline of quote Shangzhang. City district says it discussed projects with Tesla and quote, which continues on to say quote US Automaker Tesla Inc has met with officials from a district in the city of Shaun King in southwest China to discuss quote, unquote, accelerating projects and quote, noting that district officials met with tussles. VP OF TESLA, global talent so obviously, this is a very vague report. Just says accelerating projects, but a lot of media. Media has picked this up and assume that it's about a Tesla factory, or at least have had no problems speculating on that idea. Electric attributed the rise in premarket stock price to this news. Personally I still think that was a result of the Alex Potter Price Target Increase that boosted the stock and after hours yesterday, but anyway accelerating projects could obviously refer to a number of different things only one which would be a factory that being said talent obviously as VP of TUSLA. Global is a high up person to be meeting with, so I don't think factory speculation is completely out of turn, but it could just be about aggressive, charging or service or store, infrastructure, expansion, or any number of other. Other things out of curiosity Alec the distance of this location from Shanghai it's about a thousand miles so probably far enough away for another factory, but for comparison. Sake Fremont California to Austin. Texas is about seventeen hundred miles while we're on the topic year of Texas Travis County had another hearing on possible gigafactory and Texas again today, but it's going on while I'm recording, and they had fifty plus speakers a lot of three minutes apiece, so just have to see if there's any news coming from that either tonight or tomorrow next up. Today is a news on autopilot in Germany a Munich. Court has agreed with a case brought by an industry group against Tesla for some their use of autonomous driving. Driving terminology saying that using the phrases quote full potential for Thomas Driving and quote as well as quote. Autopilot, inclusive and quote in its promotional materials was misleading, so I'm not sure if Tesla would actually have to change the name of the autopilot system, or just some of the promotional language that they're using, but the Tessa can appeal the ruling which I would obviously expect them to do sticking with Germany. We have some news from BMW Today, which has announced the final specs and pricing for their all electric SUV, the BMW X. Three, the I x three will have an eighty kilowatt hour pack, seventy four kilowatt hours of which are usable, and that will get a range of four hundred and. And sixty kilometers on the W. l. t. p. test cycle so on the EPA cycle that likely equates to somewhere around two hundred and fifty, two hundred and fifty five miles of EPA ranch, obviously well behind the Mata, which, with a similar sized pack, is listed at three hundred sixteen miles EPA ranch, the I x three will be capable of a charge rate of one hundred and fifty kilowatts. It'll have zero to one hundred kilometers per hour or zero to sixty two miles per hour of six point eight seconds it will have a base price of around sixty thousand euros after a sixteen percent value added tax, so factoring out the tax and converting over two dollars means roughly a sixty seven. Seven thousand US dollar base price, but it will not be sold in the United States. Obviously pretty uncompetitive with the model. Y and Oliver zips a BMW CEO. At the announcement made some comments that continued to show that BMW will not be making up ground. He said quote in Europe. We're making excellent progress. Next year. Twenty five percent of our fleet will be electrified and twenty twenty five. We will reach thirty three percent, and in twenty thirty fifty percent of our sales will be electrified and quote important to note here that electrified literally just means it has a battery of some sort in it. It doesn't exclude having gas powertrain overall, pretty insignificant statement other than the fact that it shows how. How far behind BMW plans to? Be Cepsa continued on to say quote. Ultimately, it's all about the power of choice. Our customers will always be able to choose the right drive train for their particular needs and quote so similar comments here about the flexibility of the drive train being important showing that BMW's really not interested in the ground up approach meaning that they're pure. Electric vehicles are likely to remain on competitive. We've talked about this before. When BMW's head of RND class relic made some pretty similarly shocking comments yet again zips a continued on to say quote. The BMW X. Three clearly embodies our strategy of intelligent and flexible vehicle platforms. We can fit this model with any drive train we need. Need and produce them on the same production line whatever our customers demand, we deliver and I promise you all variance. We'll have the same high level of functionality, comfort and quality and quote I've got to agree with him here that the x three platform does clearly embody their strategy unfortunately i. just don't think it's a winning strategy our next up today. I wanted to go through some of the news from this weekend. The first is just to point out that the model and the Model X. have been updated to now offer two hundred and fifty kilowatt, charging seemingly bringing them up to the levels of model, three and model, Y, and allowing them to fully charge at super charger. V Three this. This is up from most recently two hundred and twenty five kilowatts, so it's nice to see, but in reality will just have to wait and see how long that can actually be maintained the charge at that level. My guess would be that that would be very brief and probably doesn't impact the overall charge time all that much, probably more of a marketing thing here, but we will see exterior I wanted to as promise, give some of my thoughts on the changes to the model lineup that you on had mentioned on twitter this weekend, which just to catch people up Tesla lowered the price of the dual motor and the performance wise by three thousand dollars, and then Ilan said that they would. Would, actually not end up producing a standard range model. What you on said that they will instead offer a long range single motormen Y, and a few months, because the standard range Monowai with a range of less than two hundred and fifty miles was unacceptably low to tesla so the dual motor now start at fifty thousand, the performance at sixty thousand. That's very close to what Tesla announced at the model. Why unveil they had the dual motor there? At fifty thousand, the performance right on sixty thousand, and at the reveal they also had the long range single motor on that graphic in that was a price of forty seven thousand dollars so four thousand dollars spread from the motor if that same. Same spread applies. We could see the starting price of the long range single motor Mata, why I read around forty five thousand nine ninety somebody on twitter asks guessing around Forty Five K and he lana replied. Side is at the unveil Tesla had listed the dual motor oil drive model, why at two hundred and eighty miles of range and the long range at three hundred so with the dual motor now being listed at three hundred sixteen, we should see the long range somewhere in between three thirty and three forty miles on the cycle i. think the fact that Tesla has cut. The standard range implies that over time. Tesla is going to significantly reduce the price of that single motor long range. Range Mata. Why and eventually over time try to bring that down below forty thousand? I think this can happen much quicker than people anticipate. We talked about this idea. When there was speculation of a one hundred kilowatt hour model three, but the incremental cost of adding battery capacity to these vehicles is becoming quite small as time works down battery cost assuming Tesla is around one hundred dollars per kilowatt hour working their way, even below that adding twenty five kilowatt hours of battery capacity to take a standard range car up to a long range car would only add twenty five hundred dollars or less in the cost of your soul. Tesla right now offers the standard range plus model three for thirty eight. Eight thousand US dollars and Tesla has already said that the cost to produce Mata. Why should be similar to a model three so we need to do is add twenty five hundred dollars to that. We get a base price then for a long range Monowai of forty and a half thousand dollars for a long range single motor Monowai, that vehicle would earn more revenue been a standard range plus model three and the same gross profit dollars. The margin percentage would be smaller, but the dollars would be the same. Tesla would presumably have the ability to do this sometime this year. They probably won't because they'll probably milk demand at higher prices I, and scale on Slovan down but I believe that within. Within a quarter or two Tesla would be fully capable of offering a long range model Wi with more than three hundred thirty miles of range for under forty thousand dollars. That is a huge volume car right there again. Not Saying this will happen this year, but the capability is there and if it doesn't happen this year, the extra price is just gonNA. Go to March, so yup, concerned with no entered range. Why next on the list of things I'm not concerned about is the three thousand dollar price drop as we talked about. This is getting tussles pressing in line with what they had announced at the unveil. You can talk about demand if you want to, but Tesla's and shipping the model. Model why to Europe. They're not shipping to China so I think that falls flat pretty quickly. Tesla just lowering prices as their cost to produce a model why come down the Lockin as much North American demand on those higher trims as they can, and then they'll expand. This is all part of the normal process. The price drop also drives word of mouth, helps the entire lineup and for people shopping for cars. Even if they aren't buying right now, knowing that the model why is three thousand dollars? Cheaper may influence their purchasing decision sense, generally car-buying is not a single day process, so even if you have the demand for your current level of production, it still might be wise to lower prices. Prices in anticipation of increasing production to lock in that more medium term and longer term demand as well last quick thing here as I am recording travis, county did and upholding the vote as I mentioned earlier, and the county has voted for Tesla's proposal on a four zero vote with one abstaining, so we'll see what the next steps are here, but one step closer today to a Giga. Texas are at that will wrap it up for today as always huge. Thank you for listening Dover. GET SUBSCRIBE and make sure sign up for notifications also make sure you're following me on twitter at Tussle podcast and I'll see you tomorrow for Wednesday July Fifteenth happy. TAX, everybody episode of Vessel David Thank you.

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TSLA Underperforms as Election Results Come In, BMW Tweaks EV Strategy? (11.04.20)

Tesla Daily: Tesla News & Analysis

12:48 min | 6 months ago

TSLA Underperforms as Election Results Come In, BMW Tweaks EV Strategy? (11.04.20)

"Everybody rob our here and of course today. We're gonna talk a little bit about the. Us election primarily tussles reaction to it. I'm sure at this point. People are a little bit tired of hearing about everything going on. Of course the race is still ongoing. Votes are still being counted. The next twenty four hour should provide a lot of clarity but regardless it does look like we may be in for a weight of days or even weeks before. The election is finalized a quick example of that especially for our international listeners. For example my state of wisconsin. Joe biden is ahead by about twenty thousand votes. The associated press has declared biden the winner of the state but the margin of victory is less than one percent and that will allow president trump. to demand. recount and those recounts. Wisconsin can take up to thirteen days. We're gonna see probably similar actions taken in other states. Maybe north carolina michigan nevada. You still got arizona georgia north carolina pennsylvania all sort of unclear at this point in time and depending on how things go one of those states could make a difference and many of them. If not all of them could fall within the margin that would allow for a recount which just adds a lot of time for example in michigan. That can take up to thirty nine days for a little bit. More context on wisconsin as an example. We did have a recount for the two thousand sixteen general election and that changed the result by only one hundred thirty one votes. Of course this election has sort of a different beast with all absentee voting. So long way of saying it might be awhile before everything is fully done but as of market close today v election betting odds put in as an eighty two percent favourite to win the presidency. And that's probably our best clue for how the markets are reacting to what has unfolded over the last twenty four hours. Of course everyone's going to have their own numbers. Those odds are gonna vary by source that eighty two percent number is a conglomeration of a few sources but feel free to look up if you prefer to use a different source so that brings us into the market reaction. The market actually had a strong positive day today. The nasdaq was up three point. Nine percent on the day the s. and p. five hundred up two point two percent but on the day actually trail that down zero point seven percent. This is after tesla was strongly positive in the pre market. When the betting odds were a little bit more even between the two candidates with the democratic party being seemingly more open to adding incentives for solar electric vehicles and perhaps more interested in implementing stricter emissions requirements that the overall market's reaction was to be up that tesla would seemingly be right there with it or maybe even be outperforming clearly down zero point seven percent today that has not been the case a pretty significant underperformance with the nasdaq being up four percent. It wouldn't be too unusual to see tesla being up six or even eight percent on a day like that so let's look at a few other stocks that may fall into a similar bucket to tesla. Let's look at electric vehicles. Let's look at solar. Let's look at the infrastructure and ridesharing stocks and we can see some mixed results here across the board but a general underperformance in a lot of these electric and renewable type of categories. So let's run through these and then we can talk a little bit more about maybe the reason for that so tussle down zero point seven percent. Byod electric automaker out of china up two point seven percent but still trailing monastic. Nikola down to say whatever you want about that stock. But it still falls into this grouping workhorse down eight arkham odoyo down one fisker down six finally then outperformance here from lordstown motors obviously. Some of these are pretty small players. But then we get to neo ex paying. We auto all of these out of china with neo percent expand up twenty three percent. We auto up five percents. I put an asterisk on these in my chart here as they all seem to be pretty influenced by updates from city so city increased their price target on neo by about fifty percent today and they initiated coverage on x. pain and the auto so all three of those stocks had a pretty significant other influence today aside from just the election even including those three the average across the board here was two and a half percent. That's still trails. The nasdaq if we exclude those last three. The average was down. one point. Four percent for these av makers similar story if we look at solar so we've got first solar here down eight and a half percent sunpower down about three percent son. Run flat and phase up. Just one point. Four percent five. In solar down zero point three percent solar edge basically flat so the average across the board their down one point seven percent against significantly trailing the nasdaq and then if we look at infrastructure similar story here though. I'm sure i'm missing some companies in this list. I've got plug power down two percent and switchback which is acquiring chargepoint down four point seven percent finishing off with ride sharing and then we'll circle back uber and lift both up significantly today. Ten to fifteen percent. This is due to california passing the highly anticipated proposition. Twenty two which means that uber and lyft can continue to classify their drivers in california as independent contractors rather than as employees. I haven't personally done enough research on that to determine if or how much of an impact that would have on possible tesla network. Anyway if we shift back your to two vs to solar to infrastructure to me definitely seems like a pretty consistent under-performance on the day my personal best. Guess on this. I would emphasize again that this is a guess where all working purely in speculation here would be that these moves have been at least partially driven by what seems to be an underperformance to the expectations of democrats for how the senate races have got again. Here this is still early. A lot of these races also still being decided but it does seem pretty clear that the democrats have underperformed and the odds of the republicans holding the majority of the senate seemed to be much higher than they were heading into the elections. At least certainly going from what the pulling was indicating so i think what the market expects right now is democratic president republican senate democratic house and with that split it may be a little bit more difficult for the democrats to push of their agenda items through some of those being an electric vehicle. Incentive extension of the solar federal tax credit perhaps stricter emissions requirements. So just in my personal opinion. I think that may be pulling down these stocks a little bit today but who knows it could even boil down to technicals where people saw weakness in these stocks and shifted their money into stocks. That were going up six or eight percent today. One thing i will say here is that even if there is a democratic president a republican senate a democratic house. That certainly doesn't mean there's no possibility of an electric vehicle tax credit or a solar tax credit extension on occasion. There has been a little bit of bipartisan support for bills such as that most recently back in the summer of twenty nineteen bill that would have raised the cap for each manufacturer in the us from two hundred thousand vehicles to six hundred thousand. Vehicles seemed to almost make it through but then seemed to have been shut down with the white house forbes at the time saying quote in last minute negotiations over a massive package of spending bills designed to avert a government shutdown. The ev provisionals was lost in the shuffle and that was the outcome. Republicans and president trump wanted and quote and then around that time many democrats in congress the main push back was coming from the white house so republican senate in and of itself does not eliminate that possibility. There's always a lot more complexity a lot of things that worked as give takes in those type of situations so just to kind of wrap this up the recent. I'm talking so much about this. As because i think it does have an impact on the stock. Personally i don't really care all that much about it. I think tussles going to have enough demand to sell every vehicle that can make for quite a while here. I think the tax credit would be nice personally. I'd rather just see a level playing field. Whether that's with tesla and other electric vehicle makers or with electric vehicles and internal combustion engine vehicles and some of the subsidies that benefit those but i think if things remain status quo and nothing really changes tussles in a really good spot on additional credit. Wouldn't hurt but if we think longer term tells gonna be trying to deliver a million two million maybe eventually even five million vehicles per year in united states and at some point. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to have a credit on all of those sales. Maybe you could do something around income or something like that but it's not like the. Us is going to put a seventy five hundred dollars. Credit on five million sales from tesla that would be more than thirty five billion dollars per year so long term. I don't think it's really gonna matter too much and short-term think tussles in a good spot but still think that perception is important and probably influential on the stock at this point in time or so. Hopefully we made it through all the political stuff. I'm not trying to give you on one side or the other. I'm just trying to share my thoughts. On what i think the reactions are here. And how that may impact tesla's specifically and obviously there are other factors here but there's no way to kind of capture that entire political feces of both parties and that would probably take up the rest of time of tesla daily for eternity so we will move on now to some other. Automakers will talk about bmw here. They had their earnings report and quite a few of you on twitter today. Tag me mentioning an article from the detroit bureau about bmw earnings call with the title of bmw does a complete u-turn on its ev program. So as somebody that has been extremely critical of bmw's power of choice strategy which is their strategy of developing these apparently or so called a flexible vehicle architectures rather than dedicated platform. I was excited to see this headline so let's take a look at what. Bmw's ceo oliver zips said on the call. He started out by saying he wanted to focus on two things in the skull. First perspective up to twenty five and then their perspective for the second half of this decade so after talking about their vehicles and their short term plans he said quote. Let's move on to the second topic perspective for the second half of the decade. We expect demand a man for fully electric vehicles to continue increasing significantly from twenty twenty-five exactly then just at the right time we will launch phase. Three of our transformation here. In addition to electrification the focus will be on digital connectivity and volume capability and ten years. We aim to have more than seven million electrified. Bmw group for on the roads. Two thirds of them fully electric. The company is already scaling for this both strategically and technologically and quote. Someone a pause there that seven million vehicle target. That's nothing new from bmw of heard that before. Same thing with the two-thirds fully electric target. So that's about four and a half million vehicles that are fully electric by twenty thirty. That's only four hundred fifty thousand per year on average or less than tesla's current annual production rate. And of course that would likely follow some sort of scaling up s curve meaning. Bmw and actually hit for fifty thousand fully electric vehicles per year till sometime after twenty twenty-five so nothing new there then continues on to talk about in digitalization. But then he says quote second underlying product development and its implications for our vehicle architecture from the middle of the decade. Our new cluster architecture is geared toward electric. Drive trans it is organizationally connected to all divisions from markets finance procurement development and production. All the way to sales and marketing this gives us greater leverage and makes us much faster also in our cooperation with partners. The objective is for the new architecture to create an overall optima. Our new plans and hungary will play a key role in this ramping up. The new b. e. v. centric architecture from the middle of the decade and quote. Okay so here. Bmw is talking about trying to create an overall optimum with this new architecture which they call be centric so we don't get a ton more information than that this could be. I guess a step in the right direction of a dedicated fully electric vehicle platform. But they do say be v. centric and that is not necessarily the same thing of course as we have come to learn. Those little differences can be important. I was hoping there would be a little bit more information or questions on this and key. When a portion of the call but bmw doesn't seem to of posted the audio of that available online yet. And i haven't been able to find a transcript for that portion so keep an eye out for that hopefully somebody asked because i don't really think the detroit bureaus characterization of bmw. Doing on their strategy here is accurate if we go to be. Mw's earnings deck also from today. We can see that they talk again here about one platform that serves all highlighting that it can be used for combustion engine plug in hybrid or pure electric. They talk about that. Being from twenty twenty one on and then another slide. They continue to mention their power of choice saying quote our customers decide what is right for their needs and quiet so when i saw that headline from the detroit bureau i thought maybe. Bmw had done a u-turn and had somehow very quickly figured out the what i believe to be flawed strategy that they have but after digging in here. I don't think as any evidence that that is the case if anything maybe they're just sort of are slightly starting to figure out that eventually they're going to need a dedicated electric vehicle platform and are starting to at least consider talk about that idea so maybe a small step in the right direction but probably not far enough or fast enough all right. That will wrap it up for today as always thank you for listening make sure subscribed and signed up for notifications can also find me on twitter at tessa. Podcast and i'll see you tomorrow for the thursday november fifth episode of tesla daily. Planning to have an interview episode tomorrow. Not tesla focus but hopefully something. You're all still interested in so i'll see events thank you.

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Hyundai Ioniq 5 Revealed | 23 Feb 2021

EV News Daily - Electric Car Podcast

10:37 min | 2 months ago

Hyundai Ioniq 5 Revealed | 23 Feb 2021

"Just a quick preface podcast being recorded a few days late a managed to pick up a winter virus which has stopped me from working for those asking. No it's not covered yesterday's covid test but the symptoms are very similar to five from the exhaustion. And as you can hear Losing my voice and the chest infection. That came with it as well as i think. If you'll come in and the twitter and social media the patron messages doing okay but I wouldn't wish on anyone. Okay coming up on show one thousand and the hand eye ironic five because being revealed. I'll tell you one about it. Stick around so yeah. The headline story today is they finally released. The headlight forty five. Sorry the honda ionic five. Which is very similar to the forty five concept car which you may have seen a couple of years ago and the great thing is. They've largely stuck to that design. Lots of creased masol makes it look sunny in the silver. They always say this car in the sill little mini cyber truck. It's the first car bill on hand ice age. Emp platform which just means that unlike because they've had previously the kona the niro in the soul which have been compromised. 'cause they were designed by the way companies. It's a misconception that those cars combustion cars and they've stuffed in the batteries They did have eve as in mind when they designed them but they are compromise cars and so this is a first platform from which will be used across kia genesis as well for not just one or two but many many ten twenty thirty forty plus vs over the years so the car. Incredible looks like the concept car. They're stuck with twenty inch. Wheels knots interesting because of other big wheels. Actually when you look at the car it doesn't look that big so when you look at the pictures of the car the proportions of it would make you think it looks like a small european hatchback really. It's the size of a mustang mac e or a nissan our. Yep and. it's a big car two inches taller than the kohner for instance. But they've done that. With some clever styling and like i say the big twenty joyless when you look at the pictures a small compact european hatch. And it's really really no can't get over the cause that you should be comparing it to don't compare it to a leaf or a bolt by the way so some of the things about this kind of like i mentioned so the eight hundred volts. Get joe which comes with. The new platform means will charge really fast. So you're looking. If you sound onto a charger that can give you enough. Speed for instance. There's not many of those around but unequal low state of charge. You'll be pulling in eighteen to twenty minutes and leaving with nineteen percent full battery while those trees where they are fifty eight kilowatt hours and seventy seven point four kilowatt hours although in europe. It's seventy two point. Six kilowatt hours The us and the european big battery differs. I can't find a good reason. Why have you know. Please let me know. I'd love to understand love to learn I know there are single moat jewel versions to this versions to pick from site single motor small battery big battery and juma too small battery baked battery goes on sale this year in certain markets is concerned the next couple of days by the way if you want one and so what's the range with a big battery is going to do around three hundred miles range and the small batch just over two hundred miles range. Which again is all about picking the car for its purpose. People get ready Way late sometimes the argument about range. But if you need a car today two hundred miles then get the one hundred miles. Don't carry around a lot of battery and white and resources and actually pay money for about three. you'll never use. An argument is particularly important. When we're talking about very fast charging vehicles now look many charges out there fifty kilowatts so i get that but if you think about how. The networks are going to grow with l. tra- fast charging high-powered charging as it's cold Then you can afford or rather save the money of gang. A smaller battery car nine. The if you do road trips few times a year family holiday saying relatives then you can have a much lighter com with a much smaller bat tree and just charge quickly twenty minutes. It does change the decision making process when cars charge really really fast well inside it's got jewel screens and a an interesting sliding center armrest that goes forwards and backwards and the the old four seats by the way move forwards and backwards and the to front seats recline. All the way like lazy boys like I clause airline seats like They have a little under knee support. Bolster like expensive premium caused comes out underneath. It's got vehicle to load as they call it and well so you can run things off your car and it's not just a A a a a nice deal show is something very very useful so you can pull three kilowatts of power from to plug sockets o'clock inside By the ray seitz plug on the outside actually and so the outside one's interesting you plug a type to plug into the outside of the car whereas if you're charging up there's a a two or three pain. Adapted to plug in your. I don't know what do you want your power tools Anything that you're using on the road so super super interesting and a car. That is getting a lot of praise today. And i i will chime in with some of that price as well. So they have taken out some of the bunkers lounge style from the concept which was meant to look like me inside of you. Living room With big plush. Shag carpets and. I'm chas to sit in but they're not gone too far away from it. It looks really really interesting. Can be making like i say by the end of the year as i twenty twenty two model year which is and actually like i said silver is the color. It's always being in some spy shots today of the black one as well and that makes it. Looked like stealth and Because the outside angles creased looks really cool. Next tesla gonna lose that lead in the evening marketplace according to a company that frankly started well but have wobbled. Bmw see oliver. Zips has been making these comments conference about tesla and he said quote. It won't be easy for tesla to continue at that speed because the rest of the industry is moving ahead. Big time and quite well. Bmw planning title of twenty-five electrified electric models by twenty twenty three in two years time. Hof of them are gonna be electric. Bmw have a lot of catching up today. And i'm not sure if i'd be trash talking. Tessler vishwa bmw. I think i'd just be quietly getting on with what i'm doing next we're talking mercedes benz and the brand new c. Class and incredibly important cars mercedes benz c. class Is coming out with twenty two model year. It's as complex and as well built and the mercedes benz c classy as you can possibly imagine but the interesting thing is they have to new trains an here in europe. At least i'm not sure about not going to be the c. Three hundred now. That's a plug in hybrid fashion. But they're doing what I've been talking about for a while now. Nothing to do with me. Of course. But i'm just saying if you're gonna make a plug in hybrid count. Please make it with the big battery and give us some range now plug ins on everyone hybrids on everyone and they wouldn't be for me anymore. But plug in hybrids do soup plenty of people and i recognize on this podcast. Now he's got twenty five point four kilowatt hour repack that sixty two miles or one hundred kilometers of wwl. Cpi range that in a class is really cool. Lfg batteries an excellent east getting lots of love as a company called blackstone resources and they are a subsidiary of blackstone technology. And they've been talking about that lfg technology. They bought tree that is Cathode based on lithium iron phosphate a benefit of using the is that it's an expensive doesn't require cobalt or nickel and they've explaining the this elephant typically a lower energy density and compared to other battery chemistries. But they've got some new technology of the out those disadvantages and twenty five percent more energy dense chemistry than current technology on the market and they'll be releasing that into the german automotive market very soon. You know the more people talk about at fbi. Technology is Is not new. It's not sexy up. Its cobalt free in buses forever. It's been around for a long time and it is an area of improvement in batteries. That didn't really get lot of attention at least until tesla put in their standard range causing china. Okay talking about those actually because they got that car to market really ready quickly with the batteries coming from cat l. and lot quicker than other carmakers and some people have leveled the criticism at tested. Actually those early model. Three owners in china and europe in dana beta testers because test have been pushing over the air updates and it's fixing some of the problems now. I have listened to this podcast and say who is but they've kindly sent me screenshots of the f. p. powered model three and The maximum charge right. They've had forty five kilowatts often a lot lot less because they live in very cold country. And i'll say more than identify them. this person's an engineer and they've been saying look it's not really acceptable to use your customers as your guinea pigs and hopefully with this over there. Update tesla pushing out to model threes in china. They can fix some of the speeds at very very cold temperatures. But we'll wait and see how that one plays out latino thoughts on that story and any others that we cover podcast bearing with me as we just present. Some some shows that the encapsulate the news. Ninety for completeness as i say in for those that like to listen In one go not necessarily every single day but he does obviously frustrate me not to be able to record shows from a few days But hopefully getting back to normal very soon have a great day can't just say.

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Tesla Autopilot Crash + BMW M3 Update

CarCast

53:44 min | 1 year ago

Tesla Autopilot Crash + BMW M3 Update

"You're listening to castle car. CAST on podcast one. Hey Hey guys we've got a fun. Car Cast episode for you today. We're going to give you a little update on what's going on at the Ford Mustang Assembly early plant and my good friend. David Jessica is going to command. He's GonNa talk about My Bmw M. Three and all the nerdy stuff. He's got going on over there before we get started. Let me tell you a little bit. What about Dodge the dodge charger? If you're hurry into your local dodge dealer or they bring you performance technology and great deals. It's the dodge big finish event and this holiday. Our gift to you is dodge power dollars with power dollar. She'll get ten dollars off for each horse. Power of every new car every new dodge charger every new dodge challenger You can get a twenty nineteen dodge S. Rt Hell Cat red eye and receive almost eight thousand dollars cash allowance. You know why because it's seven hundred hurt and ninety seven horsepower. That's why you'll get almost eight thousand off to get more power you get more off. It's that simple. Hurry into the dodge big finish event today and end the a year with a great deal and of course our friends at Geiko we love them. Everybody's got A to do list. Maybe you're doing some Christmas shopping. Some Hannukah shopping some holiday shopping some New Year party dresses presses advance for BMW BMW fads. You've got a big list of things to do while you can add this to your less. Save hundreds of dollars on car insurance. You don't have to go anywhere you don't have to drop off or pick up anything. Just go to GEICO DOT COM and in fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance so if you want some extra money in your pocket. This is the most rewarding to do. You can do today. CHECKOUT GEICO DOT COM. All right guys big show. Let's get started fantastic Welcome the car cast. I am Matt the motivator T- Andrea and he's failed Goldberg. How how You Doing Bill O.? Hope I'm ramping up for Christmas and you gotTa do. Is Things so get ready. It's the clocks is running for getting closer and closer to all that. Yeah and unbeknownst to everybody. I'm also Hannukah Harry's so I go in there do for Christmas okay. You GotTa do it. Both I saw that. You're you were in town briefly filming new episodes of the goldbergs. The Sitcom interesting. That was fun. it's it's always nice to come back and join my My quote Unquote Goldberg Family. Being Goldberg on the show it was great and it seems like it's good time. It seems like you guys have fun over there all the time when you get over there and do that so right on I can tell you that we're just starting some some of Michele some initial meetings planning our our next our next big car cast live live events probably going to be March of next year. We will be back at the Petersen Museum we had such. It's a good time last year. Had A big car show and gave out some awards and An atom did a tenth anniversary. ACS podcast but this year. We'll be car cash podcast and hopefully a bigger car show and more awards and we're just going to work out all the details Dell's and hopefully bill. You're going to be out there for that and we could do a major car casting get the three hosts altogether and once for all and so we'll see. I know marches quite a bit away but also it's much quicker than you sake like from now you're like nobody thinks it's like we got the holidays. We got new years and and and things that come up between now and March and and but also like if we don't start planning this now four months in advance that it's it's never it's it's never gonNA happen and get things line so that's kind of what we're planning on so bill. Keep that on your radar to see if we can find some available Dayton that makes sense in March. We'd love to have you out here for that you know and it makes sense that you're able to tied into you you come to L. A.. You're you're doing different. TV shows and filming and things like that. It'd be great to build it all at one trip so you can get as much done as possible efficiency. Yeah I'll talk to the guys. I've talked to the to the writers at Goldberg. MCI Doing Doing MCAS January. Dan You worry. So maybe they'll have me back in March well. What I'm saying is is like peppered in their head gone? Hey we've got a big CAR CASS event. We love for all you guys to come out and check. Check it out and since I'll be here for day or to let me know if you need me right that's how it works. Yeah just let me know and and also have them come. I'm down to the to the car. Show maybe they'll they'll have some fun with it as well and I don't know if you have any cars ars left in L. A. Intent on leaving a car in La at some point but you should bring something otherwise. We're going to have to call dodge and say send something over. Well let's have. Let's just say we're going to have to do that. But you know I got a demon. That's probably going to be in the magma flow corporate headquarters here. I don't know three three or four months after it gets back on the radio. Yeah so we can have. We can ask them and see if they want to bring it up and have Richard waiters on they. Bring the car up and display it in I'll bring the truck out there. Maybe I'll bring the truck and the three speaking of the m three. I'm going to give you guys and update. That's the plan today is to give you an update on that. What we're waiting for our buddy David? Just go to come in and hop into the studio with us. He's my buddy. He's been working on the car and he's a super nerdy engineer. I think that's pretty fair. Explanation what did you say Chris. It's gotta sounds just detail oriented beyond like to to almost a degree of annoying is on the back seat of my car once and he said your license plates too loose it's deafening. I heard nothing nothing and I drove around the block a few times just to hear I can hear it is right to so we'll maybe we'll get a little update on that and and we'll take it from there so a little bit of a little bit of news. Of course I've got some Tesla News because you know how much I love Teflon News But oh God more and more and more but I just gotta get that out of the way. Because it's I I'm trying not too harsh on On all their stuff to to. Hey Hey just like Just like a true Media outlet we just provide the facts. Axe we're not opinionated. We just have to provide facts so writings go along with the facts of what happened with me. What Tesla again Tesla's Tesla's? Most recent accident was a guy was driving in autopilot. Right which isn't really a real thing like a Thomas. Cars Aren't really quite there yet. It's not really a real thing. And the fact that they're calling it. Autopilot is dangerous advertising. It's more like lane. Keep assist with a a couple of other cameras so this guy was in his car. He puts on idol autopilot. Andy Leans back to like check on his daughter. get a dog dog situated. And what is Tesla. Do it smashes into a cop car car car it's smashed. Here's the kicker on. I was up early this morning and the morning news shows Are are obviously going to cover it to its fullest extent and They showed two clips of people in La Traffic fricken. Sleeping sleeping wheel yeah. This is not an autonomous car. Guys it's not Thomas car. It's awfully dangerous. This is the twelve investigation that the National Highway Traffic Traffic Safety Administration is looking into Tesla accidents as a result of of their so called autopilot. I'm just saying in guys. Listen fantastic or not if you own a tesla. I'm shirts got some cool features and it's fun to sit around in the four zero five and try to have that thing dry for you but Please be careful. Don't be like a bowl of soup or some cereal while you're doing it and I certainly don't fall asleep. Asleep of course used a feature have fun with whatever you know but but be careful. Don't hurt yourself don't hurt anybody else and don't hurt a dog sitting in the backseat right. So you know. Just be careful with that but anyway that's it. That's all I'm going to say about. Tesla is just just be careful with the Tesla. And here he goes. We ought to do a test up providing us with so much so much information so much information. Yeah this is how they advertise. I mean obviously they don't WanNa kill anybody but that's fiber takes. Bad publicity is good publicity to a for you know to a level that I don't I don't believe is correct. Yeah and that's cyber truck was memed goal all too right like I think it was just posted everywhere on whether it's good bad or otherwise it's just posted everywhere and it's getting so much which publicity as a result I mean people are joking with it but having a having a lot of fun with it but yeah I mean we certainly could to do a tesla thing every single week. But we don't. We don't need to do that but Ensure point you know how many people do you have conversations with the joke about that. Tesla story about the Tiber truck and then say but I. I've got a deposit on right so here here. Yeah here's the thing so right. Now we're getting into the end of for us the podcasting season for the year. We're getting some holiday parties in here and there and yeah every single holiday party or dinner or event or something I go to somebody has asked questions. Like what are you thinking. What do you think cyber truck? What do you think of this? And and what do you think about batteries and longevity. Should I buy or should I. At least there's like there's tons of that stuff and they're all good conversations that we should do more of them here and some of those stuff we we want to get into with with Alistair from Edmonds as well. Because he's got very strong opinions out the guys at Edna to have very strong opinions about a a battery technology and and on their recommendation. I think you've heard me say before. is anything battery or hybrid lease. The car don't buy the car because we we have no real future. We have no idea where the batteries are going to go. And how do you replace them with. What's the shelf life or the resell value? If you get a a Toyota Prius and it's used how much batteries left and then why is it and use it for another five years. Can you do it But before we get into that first off David Jessica just walked into the studio. Hey David how're you doing. David is Davidson engineer. Her at Toyota and field engineer. Yeah and like we said before. He's just a big anal alternative nerd and And we love that about him so we are going to chat with him not in a hurry. We've actually heard very loud and boisterous and yeah yeah your presence when you walk in the room. She just please favor and hold a download the quiet down over there so actually i. We invited you here to talk not about Toyota Prius but before we get in that one more quick Ford Update so Ford has invested two hundred and fifty million in dollars into their flat. Rock Assembly. Plant this is the assembly plant that builds the Ford Mustang. This is a big investment for them. They've got a lot going into the Mustang brand the Mustang platforms and twenty twenty one is going to bring us an all new Mustang a ground up all new Mustang by a little update is as you guys know. I'm a big fan of the current generation for Mustang bullet or the Mustang. Gt is four sixty horse. The bullet is for are eighty horse with revised throttle body and some calibrations and it's got revised like Jen to magnetic ride I remember seeing magnetic. Ride died at Rod Millen shop million years developing it. Yeah by the way Bill. You guys is a metaphor. The Open House Richard Way down there and the guy. So big investment on Ford's part art and as much as we love the Mustang bullet. It's the great. It's a perfect example of getting Porsche. has like a nine eleven in an ass and they have a GPS. She asked Turbo. The always thought was sort of the most bang for the buck for Porsche Models McCann. GTS Nine Eleven GTS Panama. The nine eleven GTS is the Best Bang for the buck. Because you come it comes with the centre lock wheels off the Turbo s not even the turbo easiest. ps than so the the Mustang bullet kind of to me felt like it fell into that world. And and in the Adam Karol the world. WHO's not really a fan of pretty much American cars whatever? He drove the bullet when we were here and he actually likes it. He's a fan of it. He's like you know between the six speed transmission because says it has a trick in it it has an upgraded to handle the extra power and the Magna Reid. He's been a fan of it so the bullet was meant to be a limited run for like a year or two in the current lineup. And and what we understand now is next year. They're bringing back the Ford Ford Mustang Mach One now we had one in we had won the new edge body style. We had a a a mock doc one with with the Shaker Hood Scoop on it which was functional by so when I expect is the new mock wine to have a lot of the power suspension and all the features and the big breaks and stuff of the Mustang bullet. Potentially with some sort of Shaker hood would be kind of cool and they'll probably run that for a year or two before it phases out and the new mustangs come out in twenty twenty one. So I I like the Mach One. I think it's GonNa be cool. What was the mach one option package back in the day? So what differentiated that so instead of the normal like four point six liter Maude Motor it. Had the Mustang Cobra Motor in it. A non supercharged version of the Cobra. Engine which I think at the time back Seventies. Yeah Yeah like like Yeah I don't know like thirty thirty fifty one bill. You've got the camera right and everything from the long seventy l'allemand oh man so far boss for two nine. Yeah I mean technically technically Marcus Angel has it and built just owns it. Yeah Hey hey hey I got four updated pictures today did give me ownership back. That's an Iceland off day but yeah Markaz Angel is doing a great job on it but he's had up there for a while the thing is is. That feels like we're going to get into that garage you you of all right so we're GONNA get into 'em three south but before we do. Let me tell you guys about dodged Rangel. It's it's the dodge big finish event and this holiday season. 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He's taken off a little early and I know at least one person that Is getting a pretty damn good gift on Saturday and I. That's all Santa Fe as old as a result of the big sweepstakes that you guys are running with dodge. This is what I love about that. Sweepstakes is is I talked to you on the phone or taxes taxes. You and I'm like hey what's going on. Like dodgers come into the house to shoot a commercial series commercials like nine days later. They were on the air and an on social media and we ran the campaign for like five weeks and now you're already delivering the price of delivering the price. Like this whole thing. Just what was what was unbelievable to me but yeah it it went at the speed of sound but you know I got back from Saudi Arabia. The next day we shot and then the twenty four hours hours later the commercial was up the latest installment. What's up so I mean these guys went above and beyond getting this out? The content was great who've Annette obviously unbelievable unbelievable driver on these guys of IMB editing stuff out and believable and in the world of the big machine when you have of ad agencies and social media agencies and creative development teams and and production crews how quickly they turn this whole thing around it actually really well. Well it's probably just just gotta own damn way that's all they do is they probably just started eliminated meetings meetings meetings meetings and said let's just do it and they got it done so anyway. It's a cool well Cool event cool sweepstakes and I've been I've been going around in a people are like. Hey how was the how was the show. How is everything going and I was like you know everything went really well? This year we loved the we love and appreciate the sponsor so bear with us with that. There's the guys that allow us to bring this show for free and one of the things I really enjoyed this year. Your was being able to give out tickets to racing events and the fact that we gave out to Nascar Bristol and on Indycar at Laguna Seca and Nhra in Pomona I'm hoping to do that again next year. I'm also reaching out to friends at Trans Damned. If you want to go to a transam race probably get you to something. Really good like Hoda or Watkins Glen and also. Let's let's get you know requests from the listeners as far as what what series they'd like to go to all we have to do is reach out. There's there's no question the NASCAR wise. I'll reach out this year and get you know a number of more invites a number more sets of tickets. Nhra we can do that at any time. We ought to do Monster trucks and we we ought to run the gamut listeners. have been good to us. Let's be good to you. Know one of the things I'd like to do is let me see if I can get you guys a couple of tickets to Long Long Beach Grand Prix. It's a great event and I'll be there amid you. I will be there as well and our friends from Acura Acura sponsor the event and Indycar. And maybe I can get you a meet and greet with our dear friend Simon Passionate and you can ask him why he broke. Ricky Bobby's arm the jury of ignorance. Okay so a little bit of backstory on the three. Ah David Ivan friends who known each other for years. We met when Adam Cole was racing in the Toyota pro. Celebrity race in Long Beach built on that a- as well. Yeah my friend. Mike was your guy bill longtime ago. Oh very good friend of mine. My voice the handler prevails car. Yeah you're you're absolute pleasure to work with except I'm pretty sure bill. Thank you and I broke my no well. I didn't get the hell out of it. Some gear gearbox schefter arm on the side view. That's me he got angry. It was the push they are back. The car broke a gearbox. He punched in the face and problem. Solve bill is like I think it broke my arm that will learn. You had so much fun hurt myself. Great Ed so here. We are over a decade later and we were all meeting to go to Long Beach Grand Prix last year last April role and on the way the m three broke. I was acting up but you know I was. I was stretching its legs In the Carpool lanes and the freeway with a friend. And it didn't like that so it started shutting down going to some kind of mode and I kinda limited over to Long Beach Grand Prix. I didn't miss our. That was accurate after already having a problem with limp mode remember. Remember when I found all the wiring up at these you actually think when Adams Dylan the car. Yeah we're that where everything was. Shut Down Yeah so when you said that unlike crap about I fixed fixed yeah me too. Yeah I thought you to another problem and so it was started born in like shit and it wasn't staying running running at all. It was kind of on and off and eventually I got out of the parking garage at Long Beach and they got it onto a flatbed. I don't think it was made to girl push to car but now yeah yeah push the Carlo. Nah but I was in it with the radio. I'll push it's not going to get itself the put your back into it and so she took me driving and having a auto. I don't know how that goes later that night. I don't know how that goes for you but not well not well anyway. So that happened and I called David. I'm like hey dave what are you doing going to bed. It was like I'll be right over the flat head and we We dumped off your driveway in the middle of the night. Fash flash rush forward on two December seventeenth and The car is in your driveway. Yes but we had a few issues first of all. It started well several issues but the crazy one was for some reason it was firing a coil like day and night basically when uh when he started the car. It wasn't obviously when you when you need a fire that plug when the engine rotates one of the each spark plug needs a fire in the in the coil oil on plug fires and one of the coils just kept going whether or not and it was. I think what happened was so I pulled codes out of it and stuff and I noticed that it was having communication malfunctions and stuff like that when the key was on it was cool. It would go for a while and then it would start acting up and running weird and then it would set a zero. Six Four is internal malfunction. Everybody knows everybody. Every node zero six zero four. Come on Dave so sorry so I I was going through process with with diagnosing ignoring that because really there's not too much you can do in that case but it's Just kind of a matter of trying to figure out what was correlating so it was. It was a time based type thing and so a certain point. You know I know that these you had been modified to build engine and got a super charger. So you out to Actually no before that. Let me back that up a second so I knew had internal issue malfunction code and so while I was sitting there with the key on just to see if it made a difference time-wise whether it was running or not because you're going to break these things down a bit by bit diagnosis so after like three minutes of sitting there with ignition on. I'm like what am I smell phenolic. which is like burning plastic and electrical and and then I see smoke rolling out from underneath the hood? Did you run inside quickly grabbed smart. What did I pushed it far away from my super right it? Actually I get the car away from my bed. Put out a fire. Well so I was starting to smoke and everything I said. Holy Crap so so jumped out of the back and You know I had the forethought to already have the battery terminal loosened stuff and I popped the battery connector off then I I pulled the valve cover off the number six ignition coil was just completely melted. Yeah the top of it so now. Those are the coils that you had replaced. They're all collect somewhat knew so new somewhat knew so I went through and this and this thing was a wiring nightmare before The the great story of of when we were doing some wiring on it. Do you remember. Yeah we had a holiday party or something that was going to Halloween. Oh yeah yeah no you're going to you're meeting your sister visit my sister for a charity of a fancier a suit holiday party bill. This is this is. I don't know if you've ever had this look before but The car is the hoods. Open the front of the cars wires and stuff all sticking out off the whole are her and I think I would probably less reaction if I was on top of another girl and this one but I was actually had tools in my hand. I look up covered injuries and condie. My girlfriend comes walking up the driveway dressed to the rest of the nines. Ready to go to this part because we have to be there man meet my sister a certain time down San Clemente and she sees me covered in grease holding tools and their reaction was to say. Hey Matt would you like to come with a man but she was really appreciative of that. He did say anything she just went and saw looked at me. or I've got big and just just went into the house and I'm like I swear I'll be ready and I it. That look like in kill bill and they go. It was great. I just remember like if you know me like in the middle of a job. I'll stop you know. Clean up all my tools and W get so. I have a clean work environment and everything what I'm doing. I kick everything on the garage door. Go and he's like I can. I can take a cabinet. F You know I just crimson wires together real quick actually running at the time drove it out and I'm like get this thing the hell out of here. It just kick everything I'm GonNa do House door and ran into the house. showered put a suit on. Everything was out the door and ten minutes. Okay but then what happened so you got there. I got there and fricking beat my sister exactly as I predict exactly right so they'll everyone's late so it worked out by the word. It was funny because I don't think condie said a word the entire time there and then the fact that you still beat your sister there had sort of a little bit of redemption factor. Did because I was just like. What did I tell you? It's going to happen and it's it's getting a little hot. No she's a hundred percent right. I promised I'd be ready. You know I'm I'm serious. I think I probably could've got less reaction if I was actually on top of a girl becoming bed but anyway so all right so we one of the issues that we found with the car was the guys that built the car. Were constantly doing some sort of fine tuning and experimenting with the tuned. Soon for this right. So they're sort of two ways they can go out with the BMW is they can take the computer they can take the ecu they can flash a a tune into it and not really crack open or do anything right and another way to do that. That's all got to be you. You can't do anything live. It's all taking data go back. Change attraction flashed back in the other way to do it would be to to crack the box open like weld in like sovereign a chip that you can kind of plug plug in live tune so he can manipulate it on the flights it sort of makes it like an rnd box and what we found was we had this. RND box walks in there but the pieces used to assemble it. That chips and stuff were like really crappy very foreign well chairman. Well one one of the big actual problems was It it It was the solder that they used was actually not the right solder for the board and so I had to correct a lot of different Different things in on it and stuff on the board. But there's some stuff that was kind of a little drilled out and stuff and I did the best and I'm I'm pretty good with fixing that kind of stuff soldering and everything's to do growing up my dad and everything and so went through and tried to fix it but it it just really really wasn't making me feel good about it that it was actually corrected. If I remember correctly it did run the car again. It did fired out I but I did. I did have a dead head hole and stuff and so I'm like I don't want to have this problem again. and at the time when grabbed some different coils or from the guy and and I still had a problem and so I said we just need to get rid of this issue. He already tuned it and stuff and we just need to. We need to get another one. It's now because many many times as a stupid car and stuff so yeah and really because each one was being set up as sort of a live tune. Seo So we started with with an unopened box not not a new year. They're all used at this point but we found a clean unopened still L. sealed. Ecu and then just flashed a tune into it opened the box. Nobody changed solder drilled holes in any modifications it straight from the factory. CBS W SEO Right. Yeah and that he's a different style onto so I got it enough so that these reliably stay running and and stuff like that on the bench and he was able to extract the calibration out of it. And then because there's a different boxes of Bosch boxer Siemens box they had to go and convert a few things few tables over and and stuff and so he finally got that got that completed and done and during the whole time I had been repairing all the other wiring and things. He's like that right so there's a lot of like waiting as going on finding Ecu we're yeah and then flash these you and so as all of this is happening over of course of several months kind of I dunno gave you the opportunity or force the opportunity to snoop around under the hood look at cooling issues and wiring issues and electric electric fan issues and relays and fuses. And because we had other issues we had cooling issue and the brackets and everything for mounting stuff. We're just right on well. and and we're melting wires on fans for some ungodly reason. We don't know why it was just like the wires are heating up so just pulled everything out and kind of started over from from scratch and and cleaned up all the wiring. Yeah I just had to pull back all the insulation on stuff and find where things are tapped into remove some wiring. I mean everybody had been in there her. I'm really really crazy anal about how I do my wiring and everything like that so I took out all solder joints and stuff like that even if someone had you know soldered something to it Even though the wires cut I removed that properly shrunk with adhesive shrink tubing and made everything waterproof thought about you know everything as I'm going through you know if if what something was touching this or that just fixed everything that I possibly saw. That was going to be an issue. And we got rid of you. Know little crappy over the counter connector and things like that and went to all like weather pat- connectors and just did everything the way it was supposed to do and So where where are we now. It get my car back. You can take your back so the day after you drop it off so I wish I had treated Jackson so I get the fans and stuff all the mounted in there are. We got nice flexibility with a digital control box and everything like that that goes on temperatures. The other thing too is that as soon as you turn the key on it was always out always live with the fan and and so the fans are always running all the time when you're cranking voltage goes down an inductive load. Current goes up Blah Blah Blah. Now we're running. We're running a computer on the fans right now. We have a dedicated which which people can buy by the way flex delight to rally. They all make like a smart fan controller. So when you when you when you turn on the car Arianespace has relays built into it now as well transistor is based. That's it when when you turn on the car. It kicks the fan on out about fifty percent so so it does get some era going. It's basically a soft touch a start up so it doesn't shock. NS system ended allows for Further air conditioning and stuff I tapped into. AC coupled clutch comes on it. Turns on the fan automatically and when the engine heats up more area sitting at a stop light it turns it up to one hundred percent and then it backs off when you don't need it so it's less wear and tear on the fan gear on the car car. It's quieter no if you don't have to run a three thousand. CFO Fan right all the time. You know it. It's just GONNA run a lot quieter or that. The inner cooler mounting and stuff like that there was like probably thirty holes in the bumper with stuff so I wound up actually kind of patching up some holes on it not starts in there so at Bolton to one place you you know finally fixed the bumper mounted So the inner cooler. So this has an air to water. Inner Cooler over the big heat exchanger radiator ca ah so the manifold the super charger blows into the manifold that attaches to the throttle bodies and in there is an air to water Kohler. But that that that water needs to pass through essentially a radiator like you would on your car with your radiator so there's a heat exchanger looks like a little radiator mounted in the front of the car and the way that was mounted it was a mess and the the Court Radio Cross support radio support was all packed up and stuff. I decide to make new mounts and stuff. Because it's got the new radio with Ron Davis radiator in it and everything so I had to make mounts for that amount for the condenser and then because they cut out all the support support for the hood goes and stuff like that. I had to actually figure out like how how to mount that to the front of the car into the radiator supports over the hood shuts and it it shuts flush and everything now. The other significant thing is when you put a super charger on your car. It's very important. How the air gets into the super charger? And the the what was on there currently was this terrible old like flex hose like break ducking hoes but it was kind of smashed in cramped in places it looked like it got that run over by a truck. Yeah literally and so. We did a little experiment that we buy. We bought a bunch of stainless to being in some forty five some nineties. Whatever needed some cutting and welding fabricate and you take charge by which I'm really proud of it was so tight I'll how you got? It's an eighth eighth of an inch from any contact point it snaked through perfectly and then have a big nine inch long of filter on. Yeah so we're I'm running on the front of the BMW if you remember some of the pictures and back in the day it doesn't have the stock bumper cover has a CS L. bumper cover and on the driver's side. The bumper cover is is sort of like one hole in the bumper almost like a break duck during probably about three inch in diameter and and that's basically where the filter is mounted. So it's it's right in the line of fresh cold air and no kings are dense in the in that tubing all the way down. Yeah so I I got that. And they're not alone probably is is going to be adding about at least one. PSI of boost. Yeah I honestly. I don't even know how the thing made any power in the last one. They made it was atrocious. So Oh I got. I got all that stuff done actually finally fired up and drove it. What they go two days? Yeah drove a two days ago and it felt really strong it. Yeah it felt fell north of four hundred horsepower to the tire. Yes something like that. It couldn't hold their power through first gear at all. Just incinerate tire so So it was running running really well. And then I I'm trying to work on the air management through the radiator Because they removed everything that cars got a a lot of ducting and in from the front bumper Goes up through the CAL to cal but behind the radio support and then around the engine and everything and people well don't realize how critical that is including the under pan between the the radiator and the radio support in the bottom and everything And all that stuff's gone. I I mean they cut everything out so I drove it around. It felt great I've got the fans. Come on one hundred sixty degrees thermal couple and the radiator and everything and then while I was sitting there talking to Matt saying things run like a champ. Why the hell is it? Two hundred four degrees. Yeah so two hundred. Eight degrees are the ten. Ah cracked the hood open. Pop The hood open. It would actually reduce the heat and come back down. So there's something going on I think flow wise is or something I don't know when they put the together you know sometimes if used wrong head gasket I don't know enough about that. Particular engine per se to design if there's any cooling cooling passages stuff like that but it's acting like there is a flow problem or something so I need to start. Just give it back. Give it back to mad cracks hood and Dr Savage. It just leave it. Just leave it off or just drill about foreign whole side Beatles. Yeah just just drill real wholesome there because he goes why why. They're four hundred louvers in the problem. Solving listen I I we. We're experimenting a little bit as as well on the truck this weekend. This is kind of important because bill. You're you're so many of your car supercharged down. You're talking about doing something on your truck on your new. Ram is where you're taking an air from the outside all the difference in the world and when I had This weekend we posted the video from from banks when I had the Ford lightning over banks and put it up on. That was that that was the video radio. Yeah that was the video from a couple of months ago they finally got around to everything. And and it's a terrible supercharge. We knew that it's it's it's twenty five years old. It's got one hundred two thousand miles on it. It's just a heat pump but right under the hood is the open element filter and a lot of cars. Had this a lot of these so-called cold air our cats or whatever it just an open filter under the hood and putting it on the dino. So I've got the banks. I Dash Rush Gauges in their super goes guys. That is they hooked up. Temperature Gauges and air density gauges. They have an ambient air temperature gauge eighty relative humidity. I have the gauge basically in the front of the Grill to tells you if it's sixty degrees outside that's the ambient air and then I have a temperature gauge age right before the super charger at the inlet. Pass the filter between the filter and the Super Charter. So that's the super charger inlet temp. And then I have the the super charter compressor outlet tamp. It's it's on the pipe between the superchargers and the throttle body and then I have a manifold temp. So that's the air going into into the manifold and what temperature but he's got that modern have a modern fit fit for for your vehicle. I really do. It's basically what the eye the eye dash is. And what I'm seeing is is almost double between more than double between the ambient air and what's in the engine so but sixty degrees outside. I'm doing over one hundred and twenty degrees in the engine. This is an ongoing work to it. It's non on inner cooled supercharged so compressor technology and because you can see all this stuff in real time. Every time I stop at a stop light I and there's no air going through the grill. You can start to see the ambient air stays the same the compressor inlet starts to increase the charged. Him goes up so this weekend I Just sort of experimented a little bit and Got From our friends at Spector in Canaan it's like an aluminum canister with filter in it and it kind of hides the filter in there remember and hooked up some some tubes to get air from from outside of the vehicle and on it consistently takes it consistently drops the overall temperature of the engine temperature about fifteen to twenty degrees so just just the engine alone just sitting in the engine compartment the filter sucking in Hot Aaron. It's adding at least fifteen to twenty degrees. You have a little bit of room to go into the the sidewalk where the fender bender liner mouse. And stuff don't you. Yeah right into the wheel. Well he did it into the rap about. I did it in the wheel. Well for now I just sort of to see plus we all sort of a high pressure area to see if it creates some air in there and it is making a difference. It's probably going to get a little dirty but this this is all temporary. Because we know we're swap out the engine and everything else later but all I did was just sort of some before and after testing on on taking that filter from underneath the hood and and closing it well it. It's funny bill when we were here before. We're looking at trying to figure out where we can bring air into on this thing saying I'm like we gotta take this. You know this washer bottle and stuff off of the off of the thing and so You know I said you know. pull all this stuff out. We're going to do with the radiator overflow show. You walked into the back of the in the studio. They're walking around and I'm like Eh. Go and push put my hand down in a trash can can't where you were going to look at what we did is the big radiator overflow tank is also shared with the with the washer fluid reservoir which the pump wasn't working on the truck. Anyway I'll go round fix it later but for now we just need to clean out underneath there. You're listening to and I moved batteries tobacco. That's right so now the other side. The battery trades. Tell there but now I've got that as well so I let the difference between just just moving from an open element filter under the hood to a non open element filter under the hood is about fifteen twenty degrees. Now imagine if we did some sort of inner cooling system on it as well and pulled another you know. I don't know thirty. Forty degrees off the whole thing. And if if we were twenty degrees above ambient temperature in the motor. It was sixty degrees outside. The difference between getting eighty degrees in the motor and getting one hundred and twenty degrees in. The motor is huge. Oh Yeah and the thing people we'll get to is You know they think that they're going to you. Know with the cold air intakes and all that stuff no icing and all that stuff there. There's a thing residence time. And when Aris flowing through through something it has only a certain amount of time that actually transferred the heat over so cooling it new having it under the hood and putting ice and all that other stuff on top of it. there's not enough time time for it actually changed the charge temperature and stuff like that where the air comes from the original the source of it is never everything so you can. Have you know the before trying to insulate the pipes and all that but doesn't really do anything in in in real life Where you're getting the air from makes makes all the difference so Putting that putting that out there is Is Really Super Beneficial. Especially when you have a very inefficient compressor. Yeah that would make more of a difference on a super charger charger like you have. Then it would not an efficient super charger with Aaron neighborhood. But yeah difference between like so if you if you had both a new supercharged art an old supervisor. The old will benefit even more. Because it's very inefficient at doing work to the air yeah and the compressor itself that inefficient super charger. Peter is creating heat. You can see it. Because we're we're monitoring because that I dash were monitoring monitoring ambient air and then pre compressor compressor and then post compressor and manifold tap. So I can literally see all my gauges every every step is like another twenty degrees hotter. You know until it gets basically double in the engine so anyway I I love the data. Love that the diagnostics on it couldn't do it without The banks I dash on there and we got two who've there now so we can monitor a bunch of different stuff. I did measure the super charger. Paulie and it is technically supposed to be the nine pound Paulie but according to my gauges just flat out on the freeway like I can't get more than four and a half pounds out of it and I just think belt slipping and so. I tightened the belt this weekend. I think it helped. I was getting into about four now. Four and a half There's definitely something wrong with the transmission not shifting wide open throttle. There's a solo annoyed issue. I believe The other thing in maybe doing is is maybe starting to float the valves at the Higher Rpm. Because I'm not getting much much more than forty five hundred RPM. It's got a small cam camp so it's not going to get more than forty something hundred RPM anyway but I it might be kind of floating the valves about about that so I don't I might be just losing boost off of it so I don't know like I I'm curious I don't know if I want to dig into this because we're GonNa do an engine swap and I'm wondering if we just valve spring swap would would it. Would it fix something so Eh you'll really know it. Yeah stuff starts happening at that. I mean you can have bill punch the dash as long as the AIRBAG doesn't come out on do it from the passenger seat just in case. Just think anyway. We're going to have to wrap things up here but I appreciate you guys hanging with us and getting into sort of a nerdier. More technical technical version of car cast away more next week. We'll have an update on a dodge truck because Your Boy Josh took me to the Excel headquarters up in San Antonio and I'll be picking that up this Thursday and then heads over to black check speed shop nicey right. Yeah building up the dodge. He's got himself a dodge pickup truck with gas alone. It doesn't last last show when you put that big whipple on there. It's all about that intake tube into the women. Put that aalto. I'll tell you that right now especially we learn more than I need to learn. You may not be feeling it now but once those Texas summer start to kick in it's GonNa make all the difference in the world you need to watch the the youtube video gilded on the superchargers because he gets into the roots brothers and where it all started. And I'm I'm not probably not. We probably went to school with them. Yeah Oh yeah I love galvanise one hundred. Oh no man I well remember. Actually I may gale here. I'm you'd think we are trying to hydrogen cell vehicle here. Talk to him for an hour and a half out in the parking lot. He loves new technology. Does he likes he he really is I every time I get with him. I learned so much from so I appreciate all those guys. Help me out and run some diagnostics. By the way all of this this is just so we can talk about it here because that whole engine is going to go. It's GonNa pop out where the whole hasn't building the whole thing that superchargers really really down the line of stuff offer these dealing with the manifold pressure and stuff you know and so I think there's a ton in fact when you guys go over to back with the car game because we're going to break up some inter cooler. Yeah Yeah I WANNA I wanna I wanNA come over there and hang out with some plastic. PVC pipes and duct tape. We're GONNA make an inner core. I'M GONNA make it work at. Ah Party boys thanks man. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA wrap some things up here. We appreciate you listening this last show for for the year Chris. So we're not doing next week now. We're not going well. We'll do a best of next week next week. And then so we'll see you in January. Yeah Oh all right. Well then we're going to have good updates on bills truck trucked by then for sure and happy holidays. Everybody keep the rubber side down. Thank you so much we appreciate it. 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Electric Hummer SUV Launch Edition is $110,000 | 04 Apr 2021

EV News Daily - Electric Car Podcast

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Electric Hummer SUV Launch Edition is $110,000 | 04 Apr 2021

"Coming up on show one zero four to the electric hummer is getting an suv version alongside the truck launch additions. One hundred ten grand stick around. We'll give you the details also on the show today. We're talking about 'em version of the bmw x. The misano aria goes through last minute winter testing. And we also your question of the week Good morning good afternoon. Good evening wherever you're listening around the world. Welcome to b. news daily for sunday fourth april. My name is marcin. Lee and i go through every story so you don't have to but electric. Hummer suv then launch addition. We know costs hundred and twenty-five brand following the electric pickup truck. Now the hama is going to be released in suv form with three hundred miles of range and one hundred ten grand price tag for the first edition reservations already full by the way so telling you about it but if you got the cash burning a hole in your pocket calm actually get the first edition. They've all gone. Didn't say how many that could be too. Well it'll be more than two. But you know what i'm saying that according to the verge. Gm which is producing the electric hamas gmc brand said the suv going to production early. Twenty twenty Is it just me. Say yes before. You've heard i'm going to say is it just me or is it getting a little bit tiresome. Hearing about some caused coming out in two thousand hundred twenty three when there are so many great ebays either on the market now very same i know they want to create hype around the electric hummer. But really. thanks for telling about that. We can all the now and white two years four or there are less pricey versions coming even later a grind version and a low end eighty grand version because i've always thought icy grind was the low end of the market version will have two hundred and fifty miles of range and it comes in the spring of twenty twenty four so maybe hibernate for the next three years if you on that one well previously. The company said their electric pickup truck. We'll be assembled hopefully by the end of this year starting with the most expensive trim level but if that slipped into twenty two wouldn't be surprised the fully enclosed hungary so i don't the truck but the suv version is actually a short shorter twenty inches shorter than the pickup truck. Despite this it can still comfortably sit five adults. You can fold down the receipts to open up. Eighty two cubic feet of combat cargo space in the back. More storage under the floor says the rub report dot com website. The massive cargo space accessible via power swing out tailgates. They full size or amount. It's better tire. The cabin also features the trucks sese to remove infinity. Reef this guy panels the infancy rafe. You can still them in the front of the car. The front will the fruits and if you want to convert it into a kind of four by four. Suv convertible thing. You can take off the roof and stick him in the front news. The hummer suv is less powerful than the pickup. Could be disappointing to some people. There is a trade off because the shorter wheelbase There is less room for batteries. The thing that's not like a a module two of the batteries but the new model has a shorter turning radius. So there you go silver lining. Gmc unveiled the suv and a commercial. Yes that i during the nc double a. men's final full basketball tournament. The ad was right to bombay style. Lebron james and highlighting the signature hama features like extract mode where it lifts up or crab walk says automotive news. Gmc's not confirming the volume targets. Or even where. The suv version will be made but sources say gm ability suv Factories zero in detroit's alongside the pickup truck. Well they want to build twenty three thousand suv versions of the per year. Once they finished up production edition one model Starts one hundred and five but then seven grand less than the pickup truck for the first edition but you add some fees on top of that as an authorized package which will take the price over one hundred and ten well. Gm has yet to detail the precise batch respects for the suv The little store its power in. But we think it'll be a double stacked by tree. Eight hundred volts jogging on three hundred kilowatts charge speeds and offering over three hundred miles equipped with optional power station function. It'll do vehicle to load or whatever you wanna call that you can plug stuff into the car. This is a pretty powerful verte. It's a six kilowatt power supplies so that really is plenty of power tools. You out camping and having a heater on maybe cooking as well. Six kilowatts is plenty of appliances Gm says the maximum output off. The suv is a bit down on the truck. It's going to be a one hundred and sixty seven horsepower. Less i- hundred nineteen brake horsepower of the suv which is still plenty nor to sixty in three point. Five seconds they keep giving this talk figure out which is the talk of the wheels of eleven and a half thousand pound feet of talk which is a stupid figure so To give out the real life figure could be a thousand pound feet of torque which is impressive. That's an impressive number but give this crazy. Inflated talk figure seen explained their best last year. Let me tell you how seeing the explained. Gmc keep giving this crazy. Massive number for talk to car and up corresponds to wheel talk which is traditional most to talk multiplied through a mission drive ratio. Well jason penske from engineering explained has a video that spells out the difference and he a piece that he published following tesla's claim of the roads to having seven thousand pound feet of torque. Well if you take a dodge challenger s altea demon. Which is what he did. As the example it produces nine hundred and seventy two newton meets of engine talk and multiplied through the gear ratios. You can actually get fourteen thousand talking. I but most have a final drive reduction of about eight to one. So maybe that will be just around a thousand In normal car language pound feet of torque which like i say if only they would do every other manufacturer does it would still sound very very impressive. Advice the hummer suv. What you think of it. Would you get the truck the suv. Or neither. I haven't gone particularly one hundred grand bowling abutting holding pocket so i'll be getting neither however These are great because that selling out. I mean i did say at the start of the podcast. They won't tell us how many sold so well as selling out really. I suppose unless we know the data behind it nice headline is supposed to say we sold out but the great great vehicles that get people talking. Do i really want to drive a hummer and in the wrong country for style. I rode the small and it wouldn't in my driveway in the world. When i buy one absolutely no other like how it looks on the outside all the inside. Actually it's very utilitarian isn't it. It's kind of as a working vic. Allowed understand it. But how many hamas get used as working vehicles. How many trucks get used as as working vehicles in the. Us just got used to take the kids to school. So what are your mak- this. I'd love to hear from you next. Bmw the x. is in the knees. The electric crossover is going again. M version in twenty twenty three. It'll reportedly have five hundred and sixty horse power. According to bmw blog and the performance they will guy by the name of the x m sixty more upgraded power more suspension Tweaking the styling or be more aggressive says motor. Juan dot com bmw. Taking orders for the regular vanilla. I xe the xe extra fifty in june delivery styles in twenty twenty two but prices on cheap for eighty five grand and it'll have to electric motors Produced five hundred horsepower enough to do not sixty two one hundred k's in way less than five seconds hundred kilowatt hour battery in that by the way three hundred miles or four hundred ninety three kilometers. Epa range for the bmw. I x next nissan arias Getting some last minute. Winter testing development of the car is wrapping up nissan subjecting subjecting the final cold weather testing in japan's northernmost main island. While the winter weather is still heavy. Aria is production. Ready right now. So nissan isn't really changing anything substantial just final tweaks goes up against the full model. Y kia launches. Later this year round some says auto weeks dot com. The aria goes on sale. Only the second half of this year to battery sizes are the sixty three or eighty seven kilowatt hours pricing starting around forty thousand dollars prior to incentives. The larger battery will give range of over three hundred miles. And there's a few videos floating around online at the first impressions. The nissan lesson Some journalists and car review is film are really liked the look of the our big compact family car by the way low tech like the inside. The inside reminds me very much of the outing. Five in the the center console moves forwards and backwards. It moves out of the way. If you want your shuffle leah bam across from passing drive. I don't know why you'd want to do that every day. But it's gonna be useful. Gets the center console back the white if you've got nobody in the receipt so just kind of two people in the back as well and you know it using that central rear seat also. The tech looks pretty good. The driver systems stuff. Looks really good on. The aria starting looks pretty good because they dumping chatham oh everywhere from japan so come to sit on the rights. What the leaf is the question. I sometimes a post. I didn't think it leaves the leaf up the creek without a paddle. I think they'll continue to make a direct replacement but of course is a proper. Ev from this end with battery management's proper active thermal management to keep it in good shape. Next we'll go to sweden an efforts to reduce battery whites by building batteries. The pulse of the actual cost structure or promising concepts now team swedish. Researchers has made a big advance in the area developing a structural battery system using carbon fiber. Ano- says panic. We'll tesla has been developing structural battery packs as well. We'll see on the model y coming out of berlin on the road and perhaps even in the semi truck as well but the system that tests were going for is individual cylindrical battery cells held in place by matrix. The provides structural support as part of the car's frame nonetheless policy serviceable and they essentially pass of the car. Tesla's method embedding cylindrical. cells into housing. That just happened to be part of the car's frame. That's what vehicle. Structural good approach but the swedish team have gone even further now from chalmers university of technology. The concept makes every component of the battery of structural materials is a proper structural battery pretty much. Every part of the battery supports structural. Loads not have free loadings electrical cells in some big matrix. I still up nick. Describe it which tesla's white it contains carbon fibre the serves simultaneously as electrode a conductor and load bearing materials. The latest research breakthrough paves the way for massless storage. In vehicles and other technology says sitek dot com. It's tempt massless storage. Because in essence the batteries white actually vanishes when it becomes policy that load bearing structure calculation. Show that this type of multifunctional battery could greatly reduce the weights of an ev. At the moment. I gather it's still in the lab. At of course tesla launching cows with their version of structural batteries. This summer so still work today but all sounds really promising. Okay that's the news. Hey it's time for you. A question of the week i'll answers i was talking about. Incentives moisture favor incentive and is really interesting. The says we got in this week now. Rajiv kicks off raj. Narayan says i agree with you. A subsidy off the price of av may not be the best incentive off. The manufacturer increases the price to take off some of the incentive. My chevy bolt is now suddenly much. Cheaper now is no longer eligible for a tax credit. Purchase post purchase incentives. Maybe better perhaps they set amount of free charging free access to infrastructure or even discounted or even know registration fees. He says yeah. That's what we have here. we think would vehicle excise. Gt otherwise known as the road tax attacks but people call it but his vehicle excise duty and he's based on co two and it was just when i drove a fossil car. It was one of those things that you just accepted his pov ownership with insurance and putting petrol in the car but the biggest engine the engine the more tax you pay tax however with an event they wave so zero now. I'm bitterly for so long now. Now totally used to getting the letter. You still have to register it so i still get sent to bill and it says please pay us zero pounds and you still have to go through the procedure of going online putting in your reference number and saying hey we got government. I'm giving zero pounds and they go confirmed if given us zero pounds a next year. It's a bit odd. You kind of okay through the rigamarole of it. It's about five minutes not really a hardship. But it's a good incentive. I like kinda forget about it because you know you think about what you think about. So i guess it's true. Actually if i still owned the piston kyle be very expensive to run next. James redmond says. I think people need some persuasion to try and even so i would incentivize free. Evey for twenty four seventy two hours. You've covered the insurance and let people try any evey for free says james. that's a really good incentive. I've never really heard of that on a national scale or anything like that. I've heard of small individual projects around the world that do that. But that's a really cool incentive. That wouldn't normally be thought of as an incentive but certainly sample size of one but my wife was unsold idea even though i made navy Podcast and an unranked about she did not want to drive one herself. She's like i'm fine with our. And then when i finally said look just we'll get you zoe. We'll we'll you can take it out and just have a play and kind of came back from that. And she was like well of course. Why wouldn't you why. Why would you drive anything else it was. I was smooth and quiet. And she's like we can. We can so she just needed to drive. One next marina. In new york says company vehicles cover far more miles than personal vehicles so i think fleets and working vans should get more incentives. It might not be popular with private buys but would get more miles driven electrically than any other incentive interesting tony and his bolt. Ev says it's not so much. An incentive for vs but more countries should do like norway atta surcharge or taxes to the cost of petrol and diesel cars to make them more expensive. This doesn't stop anyone buying a petro. If they want to go ahead it doesn't mean people will probably choose an though because we will want to save money. Sylvia email sylvia hudson says the best kind of incentive is one which constantly reminds you of the benefits rather than a single incentive the point of purchase so ongoing things like tax breaks or low fuel costs lower rates have company contacts. Good reminders about the choice that you have made which is to drive. Ev veronica in london. She said why don't more countries lift value added tax the at on tv. We've seen this in the following. Covid the government have given the hospitality sector a temporary vat rate reduction hospitality. And he has to charge five percent vat than the normal twenty percent their customers and that is in order to lower prices if you know to to the public and to stimulate the sector after all vat she says is an optional tax applied to most things or services that we have to buy a vat is the third biggest revenue generator in the uk for the government after the tax that we get our wages and the national insurance that we pay on our wages interesting actually. Vat is entirely discretionary and the government could say hi to pay on abc's for this year. Which would immediately take twenty percent off the price that we pay as buyers wouldn't affect the comic because tool and there'd be some lost revenue for the For the government so There's the downside death. Joey bono or bono joey from own solutions email to say. A point of sale rebates in the us seven and a half thousand dollars off the sticker price at the time of purchase finance. I'm on the ev. 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Matt and Zack! (Return of the Supra)

The Smoking Tire

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Matt and Zack! (Return of the Supra)

"The L. What's up everyone? Welcome to smoke tire podcast, this episode of the show is brought to you by auto tempest. We haven't seen him in a while, but they back that's right. Auto tempests in the house. They have been pretty useful for me recently because I've been looking for a new car. Here's our auto tempests works, basically they save you time. That's pretty much it right. You looking for a car, you're going to pull up a dozen tabs on your browser you look through a million listings and a bunch of them are, to be the same because everyone lists their car like on multiple platforms. Right. You have to do a bunch of work, and it's like so divided. It's annoying auto tempest takes all that brings into one place for you. They have all the car sites, and they compare those all those niche smaller sites with the results from the big sites like EBay auto trader cars dot com and Craigslist. We're talking all of Craigslist, folks, if you haven't been to auto tempest in a while they have added a bunch of new sources. Of cars, so definitely go check those out, I have been on the hunt for a daily driver, which I actually found and I used auto tempests to really help narrow it down. Auto tempest dot com. No specific codes, or anything just auto, Tempus dot com. It will save you time. We are. Also brought to you by midday Oray, collage car care products. They're known for making the best of the best when it comes to car care, their product line is handmade in port right here in the USA in Connecticut. Miglio's Aures Strada coating is a ceramic coating treatment you can easily apply yourself. It has a ton of gloss lasts over a year and keeps you car looking great for longer in between washes, specially if you're somewhere like, where I live in Los Angeles, where it doesn't get dirty so much as dusty if you live by the ocean. 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I guess we can call it because although I haven't recorded it at the time, I'm recording this intro, I suspect one day after the embargo there will be a lot to talk about regarding the Supra. So that's probably what we're gonna spend. A lot of time doing so here it is. It's me and Zach this entire podcast. And whatever the foot we end up talking about what's up with the fuckers, it's smoking tire podcast were going to drop in on the fact hot take men in height. Mennonites is the best Robin Hood movie. Yeah. Fight me bitch happening. It's the smoking tire thieves with the accent. That changes every scene is pretty bad. Oh, yeah. No prince of thieves except for from Robin England. Yeah. I was gone. He goes into the bull Durham. Really strange. Kevin costner. Yeah. There's a fun world. World accents in movies. And that's definitely that's gotta be one of them, but it's not as it can't be worse than put the Benny Bank. In the bigs was. That's nNcholas cage attempting to have a deep southern accent while getting mad at John Malkovich who holding his daughter's stuffed bunny on air. Yeah, that's, that's much worth it. The Benny it's act. It's tempting to be southern but it actually sounds like doing a forest Gumbo. Yeah. Like a Forrest Gump thing he does Elvis meets Forrest Gump yachts, real fucking bad real bad that movies in that video as well. Yeah. Follow my ass on Instagram. And then while you're at it follows Zack's s bone. Fake Zach Klatten John, it is Instagram is where the things are happening. I promise because I'm producing today to not fuck up the video so much. Try. Man by our new shirts. Boxy great. Oh fuck, I should pull up our fucking merch shit shouldn't. I if you go to the smoke entire dot com and click on the boy, what happened there. I typed it wrong if you go to the store tab on the smoking entire dot com. Don't take you to blame shift where for the next two weeks until what's the fucking sellout date? You got twelve days left on this b twelve days. Four hours, twenty three minutes and forty two seconds from right now. We've got the boxy but great Volvo shirt, which is a tribute to racing station, wagons, and the movie. Crazy people a little couple of fucking smart, people try to like, call us out what because the line in crazy people is boxy, but good boxy, but they're good. But I don't think I think I think the blips shift people are afraid of getting copyright stopped by Hollywood. Yeah. And also, if you're a fan of Volvo racing cars. Great sounds better than good. Well, I mean, yes. But good is still good. Good is good like boxy. But good is the line. And if you had wheels in the air. Like I think good would be better because that's the lawn and nails it because it's the lie. So fucking movie, quote. But if the blip shift guys who I'm more than happy to work with our afraid of treading on potential legal grounds like I'm gonna I'm not gonna die on a fucking. If I'm not gonna die on that hill. Volvo wagon hill. Matthew fair. Did you make shirt that infringed on the copyright of the movie crazy people? Yes, sir. I was prepared to die die on the watch. Listen hill, the watching. There's a when we started doing watching listen podcast, my show about watches, which you can check it out at YouTube dot com slash watch and listen podcast or also at a shout engine itunes, anywhere you had podcast. You're gonna watch that I'd do it in this room with Cameron wise. There's a guy I don't know. I think he's had a Long Island or something has a podcast called a video a YouTube channel called watch and learn. And he sent me a trademark infringement notice. But it's all good. Because those are two different words. It's all good. You know why it's all good because I got him off on lawyer, and I- trademarked watching. Listen, so it's, it's the different word than watching learn, it's totally a different, right? So we just it is a completely, how short was the post, it note, your lawyer sent to him or his, we didn't we never responded. We literally never responded to the complaint. I filed a trademark for watching. Podcast. They it goes into that. Register people have thirty days to contest it and no one can tested it. And now I own the trademark to watch and listen podcast. So fuck out of here, you'll him suing this guy. He made a watching. Listen podcast and mind says, watch and learn, like, Tony learning. Listen me things. And also, as it turns out, YouTube channels and video podcasts about watches are not the same thing. One is a podcast that happens to be on video, the others YouTube channel, these are not the same things in the eyes of trademark law. Bitch. If anyone needs a trademark Laura hit me up. I'm having make referrals to my guy. Look for my new podcast, the smoking. Don't fuck with my trademark son. I it's all about enforcement. Right. Yose I just noticed this. By the way straight up. Go everyone subscribed to watch and listen podcast. We're about two twenty thousand subscribers. That's click. Nice. Yeah, it's pretty good. I I'm having trouble making new content about what with watching listen, because it's very, it's not common it's not it's not always knew shit to talk about right? And even when there is new shit to talk about sometimes the big deal about the new shit is like a new color. Yes, that's tough like today. And I'm sorry for, for the car, folks. I'm not I'm just I'm gonna go down to two minute. Watts rabbit hole, but just just bear with me. Because like so I went to see the to, to sunset tower in Hollywood to a room guarded by, like six dudes where I got to see the case, which is all the new basil world watches concept cars, basically pretty much all the watches. I saw did not have real movements in them. They have weights that are the size and shape of the movement, but they're not real movement. And I suspect that is for tax and tariff reasons bringing these watches in and out of the country. They're not sell, but they're not real watches their demo dummies. You know what I mean? And if even if your Rolex you might have to pay tax if they were real prototypes to bring whatever it is. I'm sure there's a reason, but like this watch right here. I'm showing is the new GMT master in white gold with a dial mate of meteorite actual meteorite really. Meteorite you know how like certain rocks like mica and other gemstones are just kind of like normal rocks until you cut them certain way. And then they become very beautiful. Like tigers. Meteorites the same kind of thing, so you can get a kind of a hunk of meteorite, like on EBay for. I mean, not nothing. But, like what is an unrefined rod on your mind, rock meteorite, and then Rolex has a process that they refined it and cut these thin dials and they look very, very cool. But the only new thing about this watch is that dial everything else has already been out. So the new Mustang was just a different, right? Did you see this one this Daytona I tried to this? I called it a Pacheco machine. So Rolexes at the point right now where they've been very like, sorta like Lexus couple eight years ago. Everyone Lexus went from very conservative to fuck in shredder. Yeah. Rolex is on the verge of becoming the shredder, because they're insulting in some of their worst instincts. I mean such as this animal print dial Daytona with a diamond basil in gold, that's insulting to animals. It's on it's on a rubber strap, and it's one hundred five thousand dollars. Well, I mean the strap like you could change the strap. I guess it gold hope covered hand can't change the strap. That is the strap. I'm not kidding. I don't care about watching because that's an error. No, it's an exclusive thing only yet that rubber strap with that watch. And then this, I like this is the new seat, dweller two-tone gold and steel, I actually really liked this. Yeah. That's very good. That's very clean simple. But this is but the big the big story with this is that there's golden it like they've been making this in for fifty fucking years. Really now make. Yeah, they made in steel for a long time. They never think to make like I'm kind of surprised the sea dweller. Yeah. So the sea dweller is always considered a professionals watch. It's a it's a very deep diving watch. It's like a deeper than a recreational diver would go. It has a helium escape valve in it, so that it doesn't like explode with from on the way back up like you like a human can get the Benz like a watch. Ken to okay, believe it or not. I believe it. I believe it already on the other side of the watch the side opposite. The crown is a little a little circular valve that can escape helium. So like this watch as you can see look, you can go to four hundred let's say four hundred feet of four hundred feet. Yeah. Four hundred feet debt, which is, like deeper than, you know, humans can't dive that so anyway, but they've never made one in gold because it's always been a professional tool. Watch the fact that it's gold is the big deal. Okay. And then this is the Rolex yacht master the big deal with this instead of laying forty millimetres. It's forty two that's the big story here. Well, yup. And by the way, that's gotta sit down. And that was my favorite watch. I put on that watch rule shape to it's very lovely asked me, how much that cost? Guess I'm going to be mad, no matter what you say. No, that's not true. It's it's it looks like a frisbee for everybody. Who's listening, a rubberized raised around it its rubber vessel? It's a rubberized benzel. Yes. It's got a rubberized kind of texture. Yeah. Probably like forty. At twenty eight oh not bad. Not bad. White gold. Yeah. Yeah, if it was steal it would be twelve and then this is all diamonds. This is this is called the date. It has the day, and the date also known as a president. I feel like I'm looking into a headlight turned off all diamonds diamonds on the on the president bracelet, as well, one hundred twenty five thousand you know what? You know what? Okay. The problem with something like that is if if that was if that was if you took that exact style. And you just didn't make it with diamonds. You'd see it in a claw grabber game at a at a bowling alley. Probably be like, why would you want that? It's just because it's made of high quality stone, but it looks it looks crazy. Well, the yeah. The president does have a couple of things going for it one you, you can't get in steel, you can only get that watch in a precious metal so that particular was platinum. You can get it and yellow gold. Also, that's it tone. That's Tony soprano's watch. That's the the one current diamonds. He had it in yellow gold. Oh, but Tony soprano rocked a yellow a yellow day date. Tony, I'll show you. They really good at withstanding the force of punching people in the head the G hundred percent. Look, here you go. Here's Tony Tony right here. He's looking good. Tony looks really fucking good. And if I fuck in Panch, right in let me get down and dirty there's there it is. That's the yellow gold Rolex president, right there. You see my jeweled watches ugly. Did you say that bought it for my wife won't be Klatten anyway? That's your watch nerdy of the day. How do we get I forgot how we got started because I was doing the watch listen podcast. That's why yes, so anyway. But though, like okay, new color, new material new size. You know what I mean? It's, it's an watches are neat. If you're into machinery and stuff, but they're not dynamically Carso. Yeah, it's tough to make casts about watches, because in less you wanna go with the hair spring springs made of silica alloy in this spring is made of silica alloy. And then it's like, yeah, just nerd quest three point. Oh well, I think you've put up a good resource. You. Just learned you can't make that podcast every week, you know. Yeah, yeah. Or you need to be nerdy. Other media, I hit the wall. Okay. There's only so nerdy. You can be well, there's a lot of shows, I listen, do now that they make six and that's a season cereal cereal. But that how content. Yes, it wasn't. I think there's a lot of shows that go back to that. They just have multiple show. Yeah. All right. So we still we still alive and direct. We got the super chat going on. And I think we're going to blow up the super chat right now because I want to talk about the super. Oh, yeah. Everyone has something to say about the Supra. Yeah. And if you have questions about it now is your time to ask. So the Supra my videos up. My just the noise video, as well my track test, the videos, doing well, obviously, it was a mildly annoying that Toyota decided the embargo should be at three pm on a Sunday. Although it was annoying for us, but I have to say, I think that, that was quite brilliant for Toyota because by making the embargo on a Sunday, Toyota. Pretty much guaranteed that whatever day of the week, you normally released videos, fucking this week, your videos going up Sunday. You know what I mean? All of those everyone, everyone who dropped video on Sunday. None of those people normally draw videos on Sundays. Yeah. I gotta give us you gotta give a shout out to demur o- on that one to Muira. What fuck this my videos. Don't go up on Sundays and he put his up on a on a Monday, which the vet like three. Oh, three PM. I was like I wonder if I would've caught a better second wave by going up at the normal Monday time, instead of the Sunday, but it does annoy me that Toyota did it annoys me when any manufacturer makes an embargo on a weekend that I don't. No, why they do it could be because three PM our time is midnight GMT. You know, and it's global thing midnight, Japan or something, I don't know. I don't know. But it's Japan header GMT, if anything GMT's like nine hours ahead. So yeah, yeah. That would be midnight GMT on the Monday was which I find mildly inconvenient. But anyway, anyway, the super is back. I think I of people have a lot, let's say looking, I know it has a couple of like flawed designs. But I think overall it's almost like a way better looking Z four like sorry. The Z three z four coupe. Yeah. It has that shape unless you see one in person it's tough to get Assad. The scale of it the fact that it is compl- it looks like that F T, one concept that was paraded around for a while, but it is not. And it it's the F D one was bigger. I believe the F T, one was like a foot bigger foot longer. It's literally the size of the eighty six the current super is the size of the current Supra is basically the size of the Eighty-six it, it looks like. I mean I can play our fucking video on this show. Can't I I'm gonna mute it, but the good question. Yeah, I can play our show on our show. And I'll, I'll just go all this leave this on in the background, I hope this works and doesn't get too choppy in the stream, but. The, the, the ignore that, sorry, I'm trying to, I'm like watching myself, talk on video, get back in the room. So it's small right. And they had B R A Eighty-six is on hand and to get in an eighty six to get in a Supra. They feel like the same size car, but the super feels more substantial whereas the eighty six feels a little more, you know, like Tenny RO kind of thing I think is what's the weight difference between eighty or? Aziz are I keep saying Z's, but eighty sixes or what twenty eight hundred twenty seven between twenty seven and twenty eight hundred believe if you call it three, the super thirty five. It's thirty four thirty-three ninety. Yeah. Yeah. So all super is the cheapest one is fifty the most expensive one. The launch edition is fifty seven. All you get for that top launch edition. Trim is a special collar. And like, you know, contrast mirror caps and bullshit. The premium is the sweet spot. That's the middle one. You get leather, you get the better. Now, have you get the better radio? And you also the only hardware difference is going to be the. The rear brakes are a half inch larger in the premium. Okay. So, so any model companies like LSD, they all come. They all come with an electron ick. LSD. Okay. Sorry, they all come in the late Johnny LSD. They all come with. The same engine same gearbox, you know, same brake calipers same wheels and tires. They only the wheels and tires come in different color options. But that's really it. Okay. Pilots. Super sport is the standard tire. I asked why it wasn't the four s and that is because they started developing the tire before the forest came out of the car, the car and tyre for the car. Gotcha. Gotcha. Which I mean it's still a good tire. It's, it's not no issues of the tire. I just asked out of curiosity. Why wasn't the new tire in another interesting thing is the wheelbase shorter than eighty six right? Yeah. Three inches shorter, but three inches wider, and much wider tires better tires and wider wider tires. It feels like the next logical step up from something like an eighty six or three seventy z. You know what I mean in it feels like a step up in performance from that it feels like a step up in refinement from a Mustang or Camaro or three seventy its closest competitor Porsche would love you to believe as it came in. I don't really buy that. I think the closest competitor is probably the two. Oh, absolutely. I if someone wanted to cross shop, it's the sole many people I offered myself up on read it for. To, to, to answer questions, and it was all like super verse this super versus super, and that brings my personal tastes into the equation, which I. Owners. By my verdict on the super is it's, it's a little BMW e I don't really see that as being a bad thing. It's, it's got some Toyota character to it. It's got some Japanese characters. Well, it's I think they thought maybe it was a little too BMW in how it drove, and so they said, we should make it extra Japanese in the styling department, but the book the beef D eight. It's going to, I don't know if it'll handle a thousand ores power, but it certainly is already proven to make strong power with, with, with the basics the bolt on stuff. That's true. This it's got the aid speed which people have been complaining about the f this is the best tune I've seen, and I'm, I don't have any reason to fucking pay me and say this shit on, you know, the car was any good. I tell you. I mean, you know, people just really complaining, they're not complaining that they chose that automatic. Are they complaining? They don't have a manual look or they saying, what people, I know they're complaining. It's automatic. Of course and take. And there any I don't know if there was a manual, maybe they'd by maybe they'd buy it maybe they wouldn't. I don't know. There will be I bet, I would bet some money they'll be a special edition manuals talking to Ryan Lewis and Bosie about this on Twitter and Bosie looked up. He didn't article on us in January, actually where he looked at like the pedal box would fit three pedals. It's already the same bulkhead for manuals. Manuals for like all the pieces would probably bolt in. It's just a matter of will they put it in. They made it sound like and I don't you know, who knows their, their messaging could be whatever they wanted to be. But they made it sound like it was a stretch to get this car to exist at all and any future editions of it. Depend on whether people buy it like this fair, you know what I mean yacht? If this version tanks and they really should have put a manual in it, and not just what they did. And it tanks completely they're not gonna fix that by putting manual in it. They're going to they're going to not make it. And also, I think I also think that I'm not trying to be like, old angry guy. But like the Supra back in the day was like crazy expensive for what you've gotten like crazy expensive. Now as it turns out, it was durable and overbuilt, and that might have been part of why it was so expensive. But like this. The new one is priced where it should be priced like the on a ninety seven super I looked up this, this morning, ninety seven Supra was fifty seven thousand dollars in ninety seven. A corvette grand sport like an end of the run final edition. C c four corvette like that. Same year was forty three grant thirteen. Jeez, less is. When is it what is percent less? What does that money in twenty nine hundred ninety like seventy probably I mean, I don't know. It's fine. Yeah. Hang on. I'll find out maybe seven money. Let's see fifty six thousand thousand nine hundred ninety seven. Let's see inflation calculator fifty six thousand in Ninety-seven is surveys, where to go eighty seven. Jeez. Okay. So if you've got let's say, you got a Supra that was the same in every way is what you got except. Let's say it had a new of a developed to Jay Z in it, and maybe a manual but it was ninety thousand bucks. Now, what are you what you have you have five hundred exactly you do? And that's I think a lot of people were asking. And I was one of them in the beginning like why didn't they build this on the L C platform, which is beautiful, and it's a great GT car and all those things. And I think it's the L C is priced is priced downmarket from its competitors, which is why it's attractive. But if you if there's not a ton of room between where the super is price now at the special edition, and where the L C starts. I mean, yes, it's like twenty five thousand thirty bucks, but with specialties and other things like they'd run into each other really quickly. Right. This had to be. Splitting the difference between the eighty six which is like twenty five to thirty two grand. Right. And the L C which starts in, like the high eighty. Yeah. So putting building a fifty thousand dollar car fifty to fifty to fifty seven thousand dollar car is smart like it is. And something that's come up is a log. A lot of he'll ask why didn't Toyota build their own inline six. And I know if you guys have read the reviews, basically, it's it would cost too much. They have to build a new factory. Yeah. So while the Elsie would be a great platform, size-wise and looks wise in shape to it doesn't come with the Sixers because you're Toyota doesn't mean you can make a business case for always having an like if you're a manufacturer, and you can't and you're going to build a new engine, and that engine isn't going to go in, like four different things. You're not building that NGO like you. The days of you know what I mean, the days of, of, of, of Toyota. Well, no. Even at the time like that the, the Jay Z engine did go in a bunch of different starting in the seven, it went into a bunch of different stuff at the time. So, so sports cars are shrinking market, obviously enthusiasts will be enthusiastic. But, but you cannot develop a brand new sports car, engine in less. They decided without without doing it with somebody else. I think people wanted them to tree like an elephant like money is no object. Build it as how we want. But then you can't charge elevate prices for it, right? You can't build a factory around it. And like you said, it's a shrinking market, interestingly enough, speaking of the elephant, they brought up LFA a few times. And I found what I felt one of the things I found is I remember that fucking big carbon loom. Yeah. What, what is that doing now? What happened in the big carbon loom goes, you know what that thing's doing it's making trunk lids for the like the Mirai like I think the Mirai and. A fuel cell vehicle to the mirror is there. Yeah. Like whatever that it's got a carbon trunk and that bloom is now making its trunk. Oh with very weird weird is doing very different things. But they said, like because of that, like, you know, they're con-. They're their thousand dollar like fuel cell car now has a carbon Trump. It's a good thing machines, don't have feelings. He'd be like, hey, we know you like the project, but now you're gonna make trunks for the Mariah. Well, actually, you know, the, the, the, the guy's a Kelty Kelty is. C. A. L. T Y calc-, the design sheltie desired. So Kelty design is a, a studio Kelty design research. I mean this is just the Wikipedia but they are here in California, in Newport Beach. Let me see if I can get a some kind of, I don't know what they, and they work, they have a very glamorous looking really glamorous looking office like everywhere else, and they are design center for Toyota and Lexus. Here's the F T, one concept, which is interesting too, now that I see this thing with a bunch of people behind in this image. Holy shit that F T one is big, the F T one is the size of Dallas five hundred yen, and much bigger, the roof line swoops, almost like ETR ish thing. Yeah. John F T one looks good when he came out. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful. You know, like, the, the ducks right in front of the rear wheel. Yes, huge on the F T one. And they have that styling element in the super, but obviously, doesn't like really goanywhere. Those are fake, but Kelty they design this, but they also designed you know, much more mundane stars. Everybody does a lot of the time. And so a couple of the county people were there, and they were very happy to proud of the super like everyone who's there is so proud of the car. They were so nervous that we wouldn't like it like I thought I thought everybody was there like, but. But the guy was like, the main, the main designer guy who I sat next to a dinner it was like, yeah, this is I was literally working on a box van like a couple months before. He's like so when they said sports car, any sports car, it's like a dream come true for someone like me design sports car. Yeah, that's awesome. Well, I think so what did you think about interior materials and things because I know that if I ever complained about the font and then. The BMW font is mildly annoying. It's annoying, but one of the guys from top gear magazine UK wrote like a really good piece of basically almost was like stream of consciousness, and you could feel his conflicts, as he drove the car and the research he did was change. The reason you have those is because you need the BMW computer because your engine followed the fucking, I must have set it up for a minute sorry, but to re to change all those fonts requires so much coating, it would cost millions of dollars this. Yes. I think it was. Well, it's. You know how how how much money did they spend on the program? Could they have spent millions to code it to change all the fonts? We don't know I because I agree when if you get in the car, if you close your eyes when you get in the car, and you look around and you go, this is a BMW BMW fine. It says BMW turn it on. But, like annoying. But when you look around, like what about switchgear is there a thing like I wish they could have changed this stuff? So the gauges don't feel very BMW, the steering wheel is not very BMW, the Shifter center, console i-drive. Like that's one hundred percent BMW the radio buttons on the dash are hundred percent BMW. It's like it's half and half. Wait. Let me see is my interior interior shot here. Hang on. Hold hold, please. It's. Happened further back engine. Oh man. Oh man. You Google interiors. Also can do that, too. Sorry. The it's somewhere in between. Like it, it really is like the air vents looked like Toyota, and then looks like BMW you could pick some of both. It really is. Some of both like the system. There is is one hundred percent cut dammit. I missed it. The system is one hundred percent BMW and that's frustrating. And I understand why that could why does that keep going back to the same place? Always when I cut to it. That's really bizarre. Anyway, the I I know what you mean with the font. I remember when Shelby when I'm Ford went from the two thousand nine. To the two thousand and ten JT five hundred and they went from a little badge on the side to a big badge that went all the way across the hood with the letter spread like six inches out like they do it now. Right. Right. And Jamal Amini told me that cost two million dollars to do that. And so I completely understand that everything costs money. But, you know, if you don't change the font from what BMW does you're going to invite this kind of credits through, like, you know, they, they were allocated resources. They use those resources in other places. Whatever the decisions were I now, I don't know. Look, maybe if who knows, like, maybe to change that font meant, we couldn't have adaptive shocks, you know, or something like that. Yeah. You never know or may they may regret not doing that. Even though would have cost five million dollars of coding. The fuck is right now. We have five million dollars. We have to get ten million dollars of negative press because he will talk about the phone so much. But you never know you interact with this stuff. You know, you know, I will say that like. I think I'm taking a more optimistic approach about the super. There's people that are really ragging on it for feeling like a beam imagined describing a sport. Toyota's sports car as sharing DNA with BMW Evatt being a fucking problem. I mean we're talking about fucking Toyota. I get that. They did. They had made sports cars before. But like they haven't made a really good one like a really long time law in the blast super didn't drive great. You could set it up. But it was like a heavy thing. And that brings you to the other thing, which is that a, the super didn't become cool until the fast and furious, which came out four years after they stopped selling the fucking and be durability and toon. Ability became a virtue. And so there's, there's a lot of judgment on the internet right now about it being a BMW and therefore not being reliable. But like I don't think BMW nj. Fans are known for not being reliable. I think BMW electron IX and they can have issues that can be expensive to keep running. But, like, well, I mean, I think I've railed on this before the whole, like bulletproof statement, I think is false for most cars because. Yeah. Like we all like to say it's bulletproof but I think rotating assembly is different from maintenance. So if you, if you have like, I, I would want to ask them on who owns a bone stock super like how many sensors break on your car per year or per five years, that's what I'd want to compare to, because I've BMW sensors overheat, this glue overheats. They didn't use the right glue for that. There's a lot of parts around the rotating assembly that don't last that long, and that's really annoying. You like your relay in the Porsche, you like the Lexus, ls four hundred like the engine was fucking bullet was bulletproof. But that doesn't mean the power steering pump didn't leak everywhere. Right on the fucking alternator kept pooping out. You know what I mean? So there's that doesn't the engine being bulletproof doesn't mean the rest of the car was perfect. Very true. I. Now. But does German cars don't have the best history with electronics. Right. So you but the but the BMW turbo six engine that they've been making sense, you know, oh, eight or nine whatever they whenever the, the ninety two three thirty five came out, right like that engine so far other than that the fuel pump thing which was like fixed. But, like in the aftermarket those engines are known to be pretty stout. I mean if you go to any runway event in southern California, there's a shitload of turbo three liter powered BMW's with fucking four fifty to five hundred written on the number on the wind show. What I can take a lot. I think I would want people hopefully, if you guys listening like China and the comments with how your three thirty five one thirty five m m three's have been if you kept them stock, or if you or if you modify them slightly, if someone's nine hundred horsepower, and they're like, I keep blowing these Cam timing sensors, it's like, well, you have nine but because I don't know. So I, I don't want to like speak out of school about how good they've been or how bad they've been. I think people have their attached to two different reputations. One, they're attached to Toyota having the reputation of everything works forever. Like a Camry which isn't really fair to say that a super will do the same thing like a Mark for super and then they go, oh, well, these older super has could take nine hundred horsepower. On stock internals, therefore everything in the car works, which could also not true. I also like Toyota had a period of time, like most Japanese manufacturers in the early two thousands. Where it seemed they were overbuilding the cars, Lexus early two thousands lexuses all the money that you had a lot of money and they really put resources into the cars and, yeah, like the to Jay Z's a great engine. But like you know, that, that Supra will like was not a sales success. You know what I mean? Like an weren't establish for it now under semi false pretense. Totally accurate. We love it because of I love it when, when I first saw it online. Late eleven on the highway. Like what the fuck is that? And so I hold those up to a very high regard. But I never looked at them as this will be a perfect sports car that will have perfect ternan and, you know, balanced oversteer and stuff, which they have now there better. They're probably better driver's car now than they were back then. Oh, yeah. No. Yeah. You would you wouldn't wanna you wouldn't want to take. I drove around the canyons stock breaks, it sucks needed twice, as many break up the old super is within thirty pounds of the new one and it's within a couple of inches dimensional. They're very, very close in size, but, you know, the, the difference with the new one is h-. You've got a much wider power band. You've got more torque fifty more pounds of torque. It comes on four thousand rpm earlier. No. Sorry, excuse me. What's four four? What's four thousand mine is sixteen hundred that's the different twenty four twenty four hundred pm earlier sixteen hundred pm peak torque versus four thousand peak torque, and then you have the new one is peak horsepower. Sixty five hundred versus the old one, the old one peak horsepower is fifty six hundred c we'll wait peak torque is sixteen hundred. That's why I was really low. I mean it's six hundred at. That's how BMW turbo engines are nowadays. You know, you, you might lose some of the character of turbo engines of your where like you can sit in a little bit, and revved up at feel it come on. If it just doesn't come on progressively, or does it punch you at sixty one hundred the for us to it doesn't want a blow the tires off. No, I didn't do the old stop room and they said it has launched control but launched control with torque. Converter, gearboxes bullshit anyway, so I didn't fuck with it. But what impressed me? The most was that it had the balance and approachability of the eighty six right? Like it had this very, flexible gray area where you could balance oversteer and understeer and make the car move without getting too scary. You know what I mean? You can. You could within a few laps find that fine where that area started play in that area for twenty or thirty laps and on lap thirty you're doing real real actual slides in the video. You saw my driving around lap twenty five I ended up doing lap like sixty and it's going to sound like real do. She'd be like my driving with batter later in the video. But, like literally by the end I was sliding every corner. I almost was like fuck bring the video cameras back out again. But, like I had to go to the airport, but. You know, the, the car has a very wide comfort zone to play in and then you can you can add from there. I mean, the Zamin I wouldn't be happy with one hundred extra horsepower. I'd love hundred actual or spouse, or like the car handle exponent exports extraordinaire, like yeah, definitely could. But we're talking about a for this car to be fun out of the box and media. Keep going back on the track and doing sixty laps, I think is pretty good sign. It's a good fun car bullying in what we expect has changed to. Yeah. Like, what would really have made people happy that are in all aside from them, literally just going? Yeah. We're just gonna start making the Mark four. Again. Like what would have really made people happy? I think if they made an interior that was their own, and you couldn't I think, if you couldn't tell BMW inside that would probably have taken that any and prefers a Toyota interior to a BMW. Have you been in a Toyota recently? And you'd prefer that to a BMW interior. No. But people like things to be unique. They don't. That's what they want. People don't know what's good for them people don't own right? You, they had fucking eighty sixes right next to it right next to super that had a Toyota interior. Cheap. I wrote to the I wrote to the thing in a forty four thousand dollar ref four that wasn't better just gray buttons. Toyota, like Twitter, it's the wrong with Toyota. But like you're telling me like people have used BMW button feel as the gold standard for like to fuck in decades. Toyota uses them, and now people complain that's fucking. He will always complaints. Has anyone told these people what Maserati is charging for Quattro Portes dish. They're going to burn the fucking place down. When you find out you could buy one hundred and thirty thousand dollar Quattro Porsche with three hundred c button crisis. Renters does urges anyone know this? I mean Jesus fucking. Oh, I think a lot of people know that and they make fun of. I think people will always find something to complain about. I think they are holding the old super into higher regard falsely. Yeah. And that is tainting how they judge this one. I agree. I think the love for the Supra is partially under not false pretense, because it's not a bad car, but. Rose-colored. Let's call rose colored glasses. Yeah, it is. And I think you said this the other day that people are comparing it to the GT are in it has that same legendary status, but the GT was like a road course master for its existence. And I know that the old supers if you set him, upright can do very well, but they're not as good that they there, ain't coming out was like, two, great GT car. Yes, you can set up for the track, or, you know, Oslo set whenever drifting and killed it, but like out of the box, it was long nose short wheelbase strong engine like GT car. No way may have the five hundred for that, and the five hundred sick yet is very good. But and that also that ensure like half of the interior and I don't like half of it. So like all of it, it's not per mouse. I don't like the mouse. I don't like the rectangle of HVAC controls that just kind of goes across. It's just it looks out of place because of the gauges are so nice. Yeah. I'm, I'm glad that it's fun to drive because I think that's what's more important. These days with sports cars, I think back in the day, you could go, oh, it's really powerful and it leaned a lot, but it's quick issue and did it. And now it's like mean look, I draw, we're so attentive about understeer and, and steering feel and dead points in the middle of you have to get all that, right? So I'd rather have them get that, right. They did the steering the steering felt sharper than the eighty six it was faster and had better breaks in the eighty six it feel you know, if you don't drive fast cars for living, it's a fucking fast car, like goes, you know, it the car, I didn't go as fast as the car could go, the car could go faster than me. You know, that doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy a little more power. But like nevertheless, like this is a very fun car. And, you know, the people are preemptively complaining about reliability but it was hot out. It was a Gedi eighty three eighty four degrees humid. It was. You know these cars were only on track. They were never. They didn't. They didn't go on the street, and they were running stock pads stock fluid and air conditioning on max or twenty laps at a time for probably my longest session, I think may have been ten eleven labs at the I was allowed to do, as many lapses I wanted, which is for people that don't know it's rare at a press launch. Yeah. A lot of times. It's three and then a cool down or something. Oh, it was full open track as much as you wanted to drive for seven hours, almost. Well, I drove so much. I drove four different soup resin to different eighty sixes a drove a lot. But like the car takes a beating like there are cars that can't do that. Like some of them are really expensive to, like, we've had on shoot days and stuff like that. Like really expensive sports cars. Yeah. That shit out if you try and do ten some of them have lots of fins and lots of an are in the name or they set the brakes on fire or whatever. Like and this thing was like hot day. Full cranky bang. The Revlon read the Rev limiter drifting, didn't you fuck then give temp. Gauge. Right in the middle. Didn't move. It was great. It was nice. And then, and then honestly you put it in comfort mode. And like it was comfortable, you know, it was it's a small car. I was very surprised by this is the cabin is small, and it feels like it's Cush they try and make a cushy. So things are like cushy. Yeah. But the Cushing is kind of, you know, many viper a little bit a little bit mini viper, a little bit many vibe a little busy for a little bit z for a little bit. You know, m coupe right? Ishbel thing. But put fun. But really, you know, if you went out and you spend fifty five thousand dollars on one, I can almost guarantee you your money is, well, it's objectively fun and good. And it's, it's subjectively there's on who's asking. They're gonna so yes. Some people may have a philosophical issue with its very existence. I mean, Chris Harris I saw on Twitter was disappointed. I don't fucking know why I've never heard him say one style GIC thing about any Toyota sports car ever. All of a sudden, he's Chris Toyota appearance, when the muck is he ever said the thing about the about a Toyota, we had he just drove that one the other day, you know, the takeaway from that. The other top, you writer is conflicted the same things you think. It's good. It drives good. Handles it does it does the driving. Well, how you feel about where some of the parts come from and everything else is kind of up to you. He was a little bummed about it. And I know I'm, I'm just referring to another writer because I'm during the car yet. So that's all that's as much as I could say topic, I can take much more. You know, you can say pragmatic, you can say optimistic whatever it is like is the car, good, or is the car bat. I think pretty objectively, it's good. I, I don't think anybody was like this is not a good thing. You know what I mean there? And the reliability thing we'll just we'll come to see, honestly, like we can speculate about a lot. I know I'm guilty of like if someone asks, what, like what pickup truck, they should buy, like do you want on for twenty years toy? Ota. Did you want to lease it for two years? Get the ranger okay because I can't tell you that the, the two three turbo will be perfect or not perfect, but I can't sit there and go out. Totally gonna break because we don't know unless it says alpha. Yeah. So that's pretty much unless someone else has any questions, get get in the super chat. All we'll get to your questions in a little bit. But that's that's between that and the video. I think that's those are the thoughts. Those are the thoughts. I would I would like to get one you know, down the road as a press car or do a bunch of things with it. Yeah. I think I would like to see how it is. But I drove it like I don't know a hundred miles in the street those fine, I think they'll be popular because you're basically getting like you said, you're getting an M two that looks I think better and real, it's a cool looking design. It's classic shape for me. Like if you're big like me, you probably prefer the to the oh, you know, what the worst the worst part was about the super let me get a picture. I can show you the by far. What happened here by far the worst part of the super adding to find the right picture of it. Okay. I'll use a, a white car is the one I wanna use you. Here we go. Is going to be right here. Oh, no. I hope. Well fuck. I hope I hope that I don't know what that was looking at before. I'm sorry, if that was just questions before, if I if I was delinquent in my, my producing duties, I apologize. But right here at the where the side roof line comes down. Yeah. So it's, it's the part of the roof where the top of the driver's door meets the roof line. Now that section of roof line, like the Nissan, GTRI droops down quite far. So when you're sitting in the car, your head is kind of up inside this sort of bubble. Gotcha. And it's it droops down, so far that the vanity visor mirrors. Don't you know how they fought most MIR's fold down then swivel over to the side. It's so droops down so far, the mirrors don't swivel the side because or the visors don't sold the site because if they did they only blocking black black. Now you're wearing a hat. So you're wearing a hat, like a Camaro. I talked to describe it as driving a hoodie. Yeah. Yeah. That, that. Okay. And so, so although I at at six foot three can fit in the car. I my head is hitting the roof with a helmet. I got about an inch without a helmet. Well, but tight fit, so I can, and I can sit okay in the car to get in. I have to duck. I gotta duck my head low as fuck. I got a really crunch into like a see, like your joining someone's umbrella to get it to actually get in and out. And I physically can't do it with a helmet on, I had to get in the car, and then put the helmet on in the car. So that is that's really something to consider it again. I'm talking about this side this side of the roof here and the photograph we're looking at it doesn't really cause we're elevated a little bit. It's a bad group. So the m two for me for the same money, I need the more upright -ness of the two. But if you want a little more spots, connoisseurs, how was the seat. How high was the seat off the ground off the floor. With these loans, or could you drop it more? If you were tall person, and you got aftermarket seats, which is then it's got. It's got like fourteen way power seats. The seats are a hundred percent BMW like they feel like the BMW like three series like the regular three. Seriously? It's like when I sat in the seat, I was like, oh, yeah. That's, that's a BMW seat. And there's nothing so bad about that. Like the w seats are fine like this. There's nothing I'm not like again pining for Toyota seat. But yeah, you could probably make the seats lower if they were aftermarket. You'd also probably save a lot of weight because a fourteen way power seat is heavy, very heavy, telling you all when you might do that, which sucks. And again, I can fit. But it's really it's really if you're wearing a helmet or if you've Necker back issues like the, you know, it's it is small. It's a small car. Yeah. It's a two seat, right? Oh, yeah. It's no receipt. No receipt. Pretty small trunk Smalls not. Nah. I take that back for the size of the car. I think the Trump is appropriate. Pelican case plus two backpacks. That's pretty good pretty good. It's pretty good for that. Yeah. It's pretty good. Yeah. I it's not small. It's small in the grand scheme of things for that size. Car is fine. I if you came in, you could you hold the same stuff you have to separate them right children. Okay. Speaking of caimans should we talk about simplicity? Coach Abbas talk about. Go so left the guilt look look of the cloth. Look for the Goltz was this past weekend, who is at Universal Studios, the, the back lot really cool, I car. Was it Mexico in the Mexico setback here, which I later found out was the set of the three amigos that's what this, that's what this movie set was, but, like they shot other places too, right? This is like, the, the main one of the main sets for the three amigos Gotcha town. They go to I left the dirt on my car. And you know, the lift is it's fucking. It's like a movement. I think but also I think it's causing a little rift, because there's, you know, it's so big now that I think some people are kind of like upset that they can't their cars couldn't get in or, or whatever the tickets sold out really fast. I think there's a there was some mild hating, well, if this was, what if the event gets bigger like yes, it gets more popular, but the small Yvette, if your tickets they are too, so you might have less of a chance of getting in anyway. Yeah. That's that's I don't think a we comply to be we're talking about cars, not getting in as well. Well, I think they're trying to do that. Right. Saying didn't get in. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, the next year, they might switch it like there's so many, there's so many cars in the world. Sure. Yeah. Next like this year, they had a ton of nine fourteen. What was the fiftieth anniversary of the nine fourteen? Okay. That makes sense like I'm not a huge fan of that car. I, I enjoy driving it. When I drove it. I think some of them there, look cool. Did I need to see twenty-five? No, no. But they needed. It's a fiftieth anniversary. Give them a spot. Yeah. The next year your car can get in the next year. It's like the nine twenty four. Whatever the fuck. Yeah. This is what I think my favorite picture that. I took the to ruby stonecars a career RS. It's good parking. Yeah. Rubies, my favorite thing. About looked is the, the locations, right? You get Pat long. Jeff's, wart curing locations, so to have a car show. Let me look. Here's a Porsche. I think this is a nine six two although it might be nine five six nine six two. In like a western town, like what the fuck is a nine six to doing in a western town. Here's a nine five nine which I later learned was owned by Hurley Haywood parked in front of like the Wall Street, you know, like it wasn't a courthouse. This might have been some other Bank or some kind of building. But then, you know, here this is on the New York City, set the ruby stone, like here's a I don't remember what it is. But Jackie Xs psycho death. Law machine that apparently went to one hundred thirty miles an hour. The sidewalk no roof. For those of you are listening cars of these crazy canam like, you know, I think this is a nine ten or some shit. I'm going to get hated on for not knowing what these are. But they're crazy. And this is inside a sound stage and then my car was in Mexico, and then other cars, I don't have any, we have pictures of the do you have some back to the future set pictures. So the hill. Oh, here's, here's a New York City or something New York City esque. This is some New York City. Get some of the, like the set of friends or something. It was like down. Oh, yeah, right there. Seinfeld on stuff, the Gustav ex. Yeah. The X terriers Arben was sick, very cool. He's a turbo safari was there. Did you have more pictures, there's more? Yeah. You can scroll a little bit. And we got to drink beers in, in hill valley square, which I really enjoyed that was soup. I liked having a beer in front of the clock tower. It's so small, and I thought I was like, how is that pond that he hovered? Oh, yes, so big, and it wasn't it's not big angle lenses. In a tree has grown in the way. And so there, well, apparently they, they bless you. Apparently they dig that area up and replant it all the time to make it look like different stuff. And the original, I think back to the future. Fifties diner burned down. But and so that was gone. But the you know, those race service guys, they built that really cool like nine thirty nine thirty five this thing and I was parked. It was really, really cool. And it was parked right in alley where in back to the future to the rain stops, and he puts on the power laces, and they leave Jennifer on the side of the thing garbage, they leave her in the garbage, but in an alley on the side, and that's where this was parked, which really there's the alley where they practice terrible carrying from Julie. I walked around with Marco from T, L G just doing back to the future. Fucking nerd them. It was great. I talked to Patrick Dempsey in the in the little gas stay. Area, which was converted into a Porsche station. That was really cool and kicked the Pepsi out of the counter nowhere, he'd shows them how to use the Coca Cola bottle of. Yeah. It's all it's there's back to the future shit. Everyone thought it was a really really cool idea because like every every five hundred feet it changed scenery. And I think it added like a different flavor. Almost like a different aroma to like the cars you were looking hundred percent. It just made it, it made instead of using one hundred fifty cars on the same parking lot or the same overall venue, like the ones the lumber yard was also. Really, really cool. It was like a picture frame, everywhere you look, which is red. But this, you know, the, the rally cars are sitting in Mexico. They're sitting on dirt. So you're almost seeing them in their element. And then go on the corner, and you see all these race cars in downtown New York, which you wouldn't ever see that you're gonna get to see that. And it just it almost like kept your brain alert, like every time you turn a corner. It's a new year in a new place, a new world, and it just added a really cool, like subconscious and conscious. It's like air to the entire event. Well, it makes it super Instagram -able, of course, someone from Porsche interviewed me for, I don't know one of their blogs or something, and they're like, what is it about looked, and I was like I was like word travels via Instagram. And this is, you know, this is the most Instagram, we'll Karsh, oh ever, because every car is presented to you with a backdrop in diorama source. It's not even a dope. Even that, that cars in copters. Join we went to last weekend, which by all measures pretty sick car show fucking stuffed full of Pagonis, Koenigs eggs and all kinds of crazy shit, choppers everywhere, you know, on the beach pretty baller stuff by most measures, but like, and God bless Amy and John, Johnny. I mean, they did a lovely job with that show. But, but ultimately, that's in a parking lot as are all car shows. So taking a car show out of a parking lot. Is extremely important? We can focus on the car because the backdrop of your Ghani shot is going to be another Padania people, and it's just a lot, the pictures, very busy, the, the Kelly moss car was there, which about seven thousand people sent to me on Instagram like a month ago. Yeah. Because tent on the roof and they put the to show the strength of the car for the tenth, they put a GT three on the roof. You see that nothing. Oh, wait hang on. Give me a second. I'll find it. This is a this was one of the great Kelly moss. I think it's just. Kayla. Why? Kelly moss. An race on Instagram I should really made sure to follow them, where is they had one of the look at this. This is the dope shit ever son. They everyone asks how much the roof rack and hold on now that they've seen the tent on top of it. I guess here is our answer. They have placed a what looks like a nine eleven GT three are on the roof. Rack of the safari, that's insane. Isn't that the most gangster shit ever? It is. It's like here's what are suspension. Our roof rack can take everything. Yeah. I talked to the Kelly mosque is at looked, and they were super cool. And they said, I can absolutely have a go in their car, and it turns out, they had a shoot scheduled with me that, that Larry ten completely forgot to inform me about it was fucking tonight was this morning, but I, I had chick, I can do it. Wow. Wait. They show up and no one was there. Then we've at looked. We were. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that, that came about because they had put this, this tent on the roof because the owner wants to go camping or whatever we're very cool. But I, I looked this car over at it was it was really bad ass. You know, their fenders are cut they've got bigger wheels a bigger even bigger tires defenders are very high. It's a much more extreme build at is this was there. Yeah. So rod, rod Emory's. So go ahead. Zach three five six like almost our SR. Yeah. Twin turbos you can see out the back like busy Moto. It's just it's so I did see it there. So the back I think is stunning. It looks awesome. It looks very steam. Punk you know, like the hero gets in and land speeds away. It's really, really nice. You got like defenders are like taking off with, like, Zeus fasteners, and then riveted back on to rods. Really, really haste is so good. Really yet is rod has the best taste and everything every. Thing about his cars look so ill. I would love to drive this. I wonder if you'd let me drive it. He probably would if he Jon ward if there was a hell, they're hell would just be an empty room with no tools, and no materials. You see the thing John's building. We've probably actually can't talk about it. But the thing about it, you know, the thing, right? I know. I don't know. You go off thing wanna thing. And it was doing is he puts the thing on instruments? And is he doesn't does he? I don't know if it's the same thing Ma maybe it's different things. I don't know follow Kelly moss road and race though rule. Yes. Apologized to Lee. Lee Cain for suggesting you follow Kelly moss 'cause they also built safari cards. They all build them, slowly. And there's a lot more people buying them I think than than there are cars on the road. Right. That's true. Fucking Lee told me man Lee just finished safari. Number sixteen and he told me that he has just taken the order for number thirty four cool that home. He's got a j o b. Yeah. It's really has a job now. But I I'm really isn't too rocket lift. That's his other. Cast, he's like nominally drunk. Cool. Man. I like that this far things cool, because it's people that took formerly fancy cars or car. You know, be careful gotta whack the Porsche put the cover on the Porsche and use I go out and drive it hard and Dirk. Yeah. Read like sporting rivers, and stuff is just doing some dove show with these rivers. Yeah, he's scouting North Carolina group drives for the Keene project cars in the south and you scouting and rivers, like I don't know like a foot deep. I liked. I liked the idea of him driving through these rivers. I wanted to do this one just didn't have the fucking time NGOs ship my car out there thrive it out there. But we're working on for this November a west coast, one that's going to include some desert. Some mountains. All right. Oh, my God is great fun. Have we done podcast since I went out in the desert with my car? No god. It was the best. We have not car was so good in the dirt. You have to you have to come out next time and do it the hell he was doing video with emerets guys with Larry so I didn't get to do smoke. Tire video but fuck me Zachary fun because even like everything about it. Most things about it makes sense on the road here in LA, this, the ri-, you know, the ride and all that, for the steerings a little in the city, it's like, because it's got big fucking off road tires on it, you know? And, and they're kind of like there's a little drone because they're the be- FCAT's or they'll allow, you know, whatever. So there are some shortcomings in the city, but like fuck when you go on the dirt it turns in like GD three, you know what I mean. Like just lean and set that. Yeah. Like you just you just, you know, you pretty much keep in second. If you want to slide, you can go. I went on El Mirage I went like one hundred twenty five maybe but if you want to actually slide it in the dirt, you, you kind of really want to be in second gear. It doesn't really have enough power to slide in third in less. You do some like you could initiate a big slide in third. But how soft or hard was the dirt, you're on, also because that could be effective course. So we were at El Mirage, so it's, it's a dry late. You know it's very hard. It's like almost almost concrete like with the dust layer on top, and it, it drives like concrete until you cut into it really hard in a very tight slide and then you can kinda dig in a little bit, but it's mostly like dusty dirty tarmac pretty smooth. So second, gear you really your use your left foot on the brake, and you're right foot on the gas and. You give it a good a good stab in the break to really set that front end target in. And then just smash the gas encounter steer and just it just holds it. Right. And you really by staying on the floorboard it sets that rear weight and it just sticks and you just steer out of it, slowly unwind. And then you break it again. Right. At the transition or just even just a aggressive on throttle. Followed by an aggressive lift throw the way throw that weight just forward, and it'll stick the nose again you side of the other way. I mean it was so easy. Like I did probably like a mile long Monje down the side of the Red Eye was dripping, sweat by the end of it, because I had to keep I want to keep the windows, close sitting completely fucked, the interior mildly fucked the interior. But like it was still pretty dusty but so it's hot as balls in there. You know what I mean and? But i'm. Oh, just back and forth back and forth back and forth back and forth. It was so great. So great he was like, is that kind of driving a good like low-speed lesson in Porsche handling dynamics and jodel. Like if you going going ten tents in, like nine eleven GD three the same kind of thing would happen, like there'd be less movement of it like it's nice because in the same way a trophy truck, the movements are kind of exaggerated, it's sort of like that here things happen. A little slower kind of like moves around a bit. But like you can erase car. If you if your only car even if it's not a race car, but even if it's like let's call it like a lower GTI or something like that. If you have a very firm suspension, you know, and not a lot of travel like a sports car. It's a very fine edge between dancing that front rear like Etem at Porsche spore driving school at the, at the at the center of the advanced lessons that slick track with the drifting, we did thirty five to forty minutes on keeping GT three between zero and one percent throttle zero one like that, that finance between zero and one is what it took to do a consistent amount of drifting on the track on the dirt with this, your your movements can be like there are a lot more aggressive course. And they probably have to be. Yeah. So it's full throttle, and heavy break and a big Huck you know what I mean? And so, so, because the car moves on the suspension when you break, you can really feel it go down and up. You know what I mean? And it it gives you a ton of feedback to work with and understand. Okay. Here's where I'm at and here. So I get out of this. And as long as you keep your eyes where you wanna go. And you gotta get I say your trajectory a little, like I feel like my, my closest relation was driving that you'll know, met in the dirt because rear engined all those things, and I found that couldn't make as many mid corner corrections, drift wise, as you can front engine car because hitting around the engine coordinate you like controlling momentum, a little bit of rain in, I guess. Yeah. But, but, you know, they, they say, like when you're sliding like never lift, you never lift all the way you can come off the floor board. You know what I mean you have to stay on the floor board. Just don't come off enough to throw that weight forward. While you're you know what I mean? And also you're on the dirt. Yeah. By being hurt. There's no snapback, right. So that whole Widowmaker thing where you don't wanna live because if you live to catch catches and snaps back will on the dirt that snapback is a is a good way to transition and it's a much, much less aggressive wars. Do it. You could make it do the transition. But you have to like hard on hard off. You know what I mean? It won't it won't just do it. But like I made a bunch of Emirates airlines camera, people shit their pants does. They were very, very big fans. That's strong. And like the engine the diff- everything, like, really, really took a took a beating well as perfectly happy, although the engine, it was definitely like rough cold starting afterwards. We started it for more than two looked. And it was like, you know, took a Trier, right? Well, when I got home from. Me and Vinnie took out because here's at loved. It was really filthy. And. When I got home me Advani cleaned out the air filter, and I poured like half a Cup of sand out of the air filter. Whoa. And I started it up wherever that it was like, oh. Started off a little bit. Just wasn't getting air fucking. Why? That's amazing. Yeah. And then we had to wash it twice like how, how this Ramic coating cO pretty good. Yeah. Didn't everything was pretty well baked onto their and it didn't just come off with water. But and I had to wash it twice because I missed some spots, the first time literally every single surface was covered in dust. But. It was it was extremely dirty, and there was a dick on it, and it was, but I would say that the ceramic coating did aid in the cleaning, like a lot of a lot of it did come off. Like I still had to wash it up. There is like talcum powder, dust is really, really fine. Just sticks to stuff. Yeah. It was really fun. And then halfway through member it rained. So it like mud, mud kit tried again so, yeah. Baking making like a ceramic Cup. Yeah, but overall the expel films like the film. They did like even after the desert like the car looks way you see. And we go outside of the cogs mint. It's amazing to me that they can wrap a car, and then it can get polish like clear coat. That's incredible. To me really the science, the material sciences and saying Cooper, Gregory, super crazy. Are we still racking live? I haven't checked in awhile, pay. We are. Nope. So we've got a shitload of questions, vintage Porsches. I drove something. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So this is it's called the rebel. But basically, there's this guy named John Gunderson, and he made a bunch of money, you know, just like legitimate businessman when he's eighteen onto sandwich shop starting early all that stuff. So you may bunch of money and started restoring cars with his son. He's not like a wrench. It's fucking sexy advocated himself, but he like he he's, he's a good project manager. Like he found a really good team that does metalwork and he found guys that any contract is a contract keen, but he's not like a Haley does a shop like he assembled his own eighteen mini like runs a shop, now that is just like a private shop. So he. Built. He's building three like art car attributes. So he took, you know, the, the most popular arguably the most famous vintage nine eleven is the right. Yeah. Sure. Well. Few say you'll blindly agreed me. But like any cars like that for the one they saw a half million dollars, the car point seminar, s. Yeah. Know there's an option package. You could get on your career RS back in the days, both mostly meant to be a race car. Yeah. Well, you, you could buy you go dealership. And you could check a box for like the four nine one package and it added almost fifty percent of the cost of your Carreira, and then it was lighter like two hundred pounds lighter hundred more horsepower, you got breaks from, like nine seventeen all this stuff. So he took that idea. And then he likes the pain on the nine seventeen art cars. So he's doing Bill having three of these built that are basically, it takes ninety ninety three Carreira. They make all metal fenders all metal ducktail spoiler. They get an engine from raw sport. That's three hundred fifty horsepower to three point five liter and then they paint them, they're paying them to match the nine seventeen art cars, there's going to be like a hippie art car, which is really cool. And then the one I drove today was Gulf. So it's like twenty two hundred pounds three hundred fifty horsepower, five speed. It was pretty amazing. And I, I am today. I got a Ralph sport engine Roth. They knows how to build a fucking motor, if you don't know who they are. They're legit. Save built the engine for Zora. It's Panamericana far. They built the auto cars, which is Pat long's. And Joey sealy's safari cars. He built I think he built sealy's motor, the BB I the project nasty mostly he has Bill raw sport might do they, they don't build singers. No, not singer engines, and then, but they build like dope shit. They already built up shit for people that are very discerning is the way I would definitely put it. So they know around these things, and I was very lucky driving. Yeah. They strip it to metal. They will. You know, they've built Fenice one looks fire this number three hippie car. I was hoping it wasn't ready in time, sick Freeman. Thomas was a senior designer at Porsche, and then he went to like FIA VW Ford. I mean he's a pretty legitimate longtime guy in the design space of OEM's. And now he's like helping paint on these these. Xian's really cool. I don't think the Gulf one is all that. I think is a little tired really great. This point. I think I know why he probably wanted to start a little conservative with the first one, but I would have gone fucking full on butcher butcher chart of I would have gone fucking full butcher charge on that bitch. So how to drive? I mean it's got it must be pretty nasty, right? Lighten. Fuck and fast. Right. Fast steering is crazy communicative not like super-quick. But would you know the old cars of slow ratio? Everything. Everything. Even a little bit of lift or a little bit of gas like you could feel it felt like five pounds coming off the front. Yes, it was pretty crazy. That's sort of why people like these old nine eleven's really talked to you. I'm starting to figure it out. So I basically had to defeat myself because I've hated on these things for a long time, which is like I don't think you'd hate you'd hate it on. I'm not hated. I've just been like I don't understand the vintage portrait thing because they're very expensive. Yes. A lot more that fast. Yes. And when everyone was jumping on the bandwagon, I think one of my hipster qualities is going well, go fuck yourself. Well that's that's called morning starring. Like everyone likes either to popular not in. They're not all great. I'll agree that some of them cost three hundred thousand dollars and are not three hundred thousand dollar driving experience that exactly that was my problem. With the thing is I had not driven one that I think showed me all of the naturally aspirated goodness of the lightweight cars. And so today, I got to experience that. And I got it like the, the engine could not have felt more board and just pulled second third gear felt the same in because it's flat six. I think it's a very balanced engine. It's just like there's a lot of abrasion coming through it just charge down. The street was really phenomenal. It had to hiccups. The pedal like the economics of the pedals, the clutch is the closest thing to you, then break. And then the gases too deep clutches, the oh, right stare almost as the stock pedals, or was um after Mars after. Okay. And they are just evil. The Carleen is eight hundred miles on it. They can fix. Here we go. Well, that's not. But basically, if you were full break you wouldn't be able to heel toe. Okay. They spry fix that and it had a little like wiggle at like at speed. He went over a little crest and it just kind of tramline a little oh and what the guy that brought it was saying is that the suspension was set up by their shop, but it needs like the Joey treatment, and it needs to go to someone that has only been working on nine eleven for a long time. But otherwise, I mean it's it's stunning like it's a new. So he's really flurry of these. So he he's selling them. Yeah. Over him. It's one of those like if you wanted to buy it, you could Email them probably, he's just like he's a guy that has, you know, money time. Okay. And likes to build cool stuff. It's nice let you have a go. Yeah, it was pretty RAD pretty cool because I've never I've filmed the singers and the other things many times, but I've never driven one. Yeah. And I'm not saying these are the same, but I'm saying the lightweight motor sport engine. Try wanted it does make sense to me. And it's it's like the different way to skin, a cat. It's different driving experience in a front engined car. Totally and in a certain point, if you've driven all the front engine cars like all right. Well, let's learn to play a different instrument. Yeah. And also, like, when you know those cars like the thing about nine eleven is like if you, you get one relaxed on the highway and a lot of what is happening mechanically is behind. You meant doesn't really bother you up here, the way that you get the vibrations of exhaust gases flowing underneath the car, you'd be surprised the difference, is that kind of stuff makes maybe that's why it just feels like there's no vibration on you. Effortless speed thrust or the? Just going to balance nature of the engine. Like it just feels even kick the shit out of it all the time, it doesn't feel like it's working, as you know, like the bodies are built so fucking. Well, that's why you can offer them, and they don't gigolo shake. Yeah. And they don't seem well this they just pull it apart back to meddle in everything else. But I mean the bodywork stunning in the shape and the interior like to get rid of the HVAC controls on the dash. Yeah. So it's real clean. It's just like black dash on the right, and then they paint the gauge pod Gulf color, or whatever color dot have H back it has a fan. So the fans which they got rid of like the heater because there's like, you know, driving this in the cold. It'll be fine. You should see you do. I have ACN heat and heat in my car. And I use both all the time. I understand your, your car is like a civil war. Daly city. Urban warrior exactly. But it was read. It read. All right is a good experience. Okay. Well, we got a lot of questions. We'll try to get through them. And who are we kidding? We don't have a life. We'll get through them. We don't, but I'm gonna cut off the questions now because otherwise, we will not get through, let's see Lil little slow above. What would you choose? Second gen Cadillac CT SV manual or a Chevy s as a summer daily in Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, or West Virginia. Well, the fee I believe is the better car. The SS has the things that the three has, but just isn't not as much of them. That's true. Unless gas is a concern for you. I mean. But I'm guessing something to worry about. But you're splitting hairs. The SS isn't exactly a Prius. Oh, no. Not at all. But, you know, it's like if you're getting twelve as the versus fifteen or something like it adds up, but those are very different Beatles, visa just like hilarious. Yeah. It's dynamics, dynamic Salone. I say see TSP but, but the seventy s is a nice car to Chris Chris Cameron says, what's better for comfortable daily driving on the interstate the Lexus GS or the LS in which generation of each is best. Okay. I mean, the LS is just cushy cushy. It's just like that's Cush is it's game almost like snoop Dogg Kush escape, and it's bigger and longer. So longer wheelbase. Right. Be more comfortable and more steady and etcetera etcetera, but further away from the bumps, right? But it's also heavier slower you know, not as fun. You know, a GS actually is reasonably fun to drive pretty responsive pretty much the LS running gear. In a smaller car park. Yeah. I would say if you don't need the backseat that often, it's at if you don't need quite as much shit in the trunk just get the GS is still a pretty big human lot find it uncomfortable. Yeah, I would prefer GS and I think they're equally comfortable, but the GS probably is more is nicer to Dr von wassenberg says recently, the thing for the rather, large Asian recently bought a twenty thirteen boss three oh to as far as I know its stock. Love the car so far. What are your opinions on the boss three? Oh two for Florida. I mean, the boss three. Oh, two is the jam. Yeah. Two lovely car at like raise the bar for how Mustangs should drive in handle. Totally Lutely, at the time Ford was selling the GT five hundred and the boss three. Oh to the GD five hundred was the fucking big. The giant motor one and everyone universally said the three oh to was the better car have -solutely. They still do it was like the pre GT three fifty was it may, I think it made everyone go. Oh, we can we can do this. Okay. People are more into this now. Specializations don't need to be rocket ships. They can turn. Yeah. It's, it's a lovely car. I had a I had a great time with both press cars. We got. They were fun. Yeah. Yeah. They were both. That was a good good month. Good, Florida car. I think just you find track days because there's not a lot of turns there, you're missing out on PBR's hit ups. CBI are an Roebling road. Maxwell says love the podcast. Zach anything to look for on an e forty six m three besides sub frame van Hoss bearings. Yeah. Because becoming the PPI fucking guy. And I, I am I had had enough problem things like the cooling system basically needs to get replaced around one hundred thousand miles like the expansion tank kin is known for drying out and cracking. And then also in your coolant goes all over the ground, whether you're moving or not. So like when I bought mine are place all that stuff. So it look for ones that have had that replace if you're near one hundred thousand miles Vaneau, there's some people are concerned about is a Cam angle sensor, year, like that can have these control tabs in them that break off, and if they break off, you have a really big problem. Now, I've never heard of an issue with mine alive. He will do it preventatively. Like, if you're gonna do hard track use, you can buy a hardened gear for it or replace it. With a new OEM one really depends on what you're doing with the car who had it before you. And how many mile that has on it? So I think if you're looking at a car, that's around one hundred thousand miles, I would buy one that's over and has had all that shit replaced by another human being the same shit that same deal goes for nine eleven. See a lot of high eighty low ninety thousand mile died elevens for sale air colds, and that's because one hundred thousand mile is that one that I just did. Oh, right. Yeah. So you're looking at like a fifteen to twenty thousand dollars service at one hundred K, so you're better off buying one with one hundred fifteen K on it. That's had the service than buying one with ninety K that needs the that. Yeah. Absolutely. If I could go back in time and do it again. I might have looked for a car that had if you're going to keep it for a while. But basically, yes, sub frame, they knows bearings and. Cooling stuff. Yeah. Unless you'd be fun all ride. Dominic says any thoughts on Rashard me lay better known as Richard MU. I saw, you know, Zach, do you know anything about Rashard me lie. Only from the Jay Z song, right? So retard me lay aka, Richard meal has some very interesting watches. It'd be Loretta Mueller. Good. I switch for me because I'm richer. Yes. There you go. Exactly. But take a break and what the hell these watches are incredibly interesting kind of that these things are like one hundred fifty to five hundred thousand I know they are. Jay, the skull in it. Yeah. I know the right. That's sort of a thing they do. And. Yeah. And they're all crazy. Right. So there are some of them are weird, but, but a lot of them are designed for a function that no one will really ever use it for July. Plus, he like Roffe on the doll. The tennis player has a special edition one like you're not supposed to wear a watch while playing tennis because your arm is doing the circular motions over and over same thing with playing golf charges. Better, watch it, it can damage it. In theory RA RA chard me lay has some watches that are like, ten for that yet. Yeah. Like extreme sports proof. They Jonah it does this one. I just saw that this one does look like Johnny. And it's it's it's a ladies watch. It's the pink lady. Really not very badge like but they sponsor a lot of racing. A lot of Formula one lot open-wheel racing. I mean, this is what it looks like on on someone's risk, they look they they're way bigger than they look. They're big way big other BIC that a lot of them are really big. They're really garish. They are. They scream like I spent six figures on this. And that's kind of the point drum, they are extremely technologically advanced I cannot very cool engineering because when I see that or that those crazy snow globe ones. Yeah. Me like, oh, the astronomy that goes into that is amazing. Yeah. Knock it. What's Rashard me lay does does a lot of material stuff they make movements out of carbon fibre, and titanium and really wild alloys. They do some stuff. Okay. But I, I don't wanna wear one, no wearing like a law Ferrari, are homey. Thaddeus works on their social media account and Dubai. All right. Yeah I'm just making. Friends all over the place. Yeah. Jason says, I've been relisting old TST episodes. I believe the first mention of your now, Kuntadi was an episode five. Wow. How about that? I wonder what you said. I think that might have been when we reviewed when I reviewed the car of Dave, that I was able, okay, that's awesome. It labs owed five I just found more Tosh media media appearances. So it's, it's sending Crawford thing. It's been in multiple, it's been a Diddy video, and it was in the muse. Thought contagion video, as well as another music video. Wow, music for two music videos. That's pretty cool. Yeah. So we add that to the Coon Tosh resume. It'd be funny. If an episode five you to say, you know cars really Kulik in the kun-tae like, that's it. AP says with a Pepsi Batman, resell bubble ever burst. I dunno Pepsi Batman we're talking about Rolex watches here, the GMT master, the, it could be a bubble. It is. I it's weird Rolex is, is the most valuable mass produced product out there. I mean they literally make a million watches a year. Oh, didn't know that. Yeah. They don't make a million Pepsi's, but they do make they make a lot of watches. They're made by robots or not made by hand, you know, and yet they are, you know, it's the same. It's like an iphone. It's not robots or Swiss people totally. Funny. You the value of the values of watches tend to track with, like the rest of the economy or any luxury item. I do believe. So the best of the best will always be owned by the very richest people that are immune from most economic bubbles. The stuff in the middle will take a dive. I think the old Rolexes the ones where there are now a fixed number of them are incredibly susceptible to fraud and fake aging and basil replacement in parts. But if you get a good one that one is ace and is not part of any bubble but Rolex is very smart about how many of these things they make, and it's not in their best interest or increase production of them anytime soon. They would be pretty dumb to do that. And I don't think they're that dumb. So I think mulligan, they've been in business one hundred one hundred years they, they know what they're doing now. Almost one hundred years, yet, I think it's hundred it's like early twenties. If not late teens I believe, yeah, Hans, wills Dorf might be nineteen twenty three or nineteen twenty six approaching one hundred years. I think I believe that a stainless steel Rolex that as appropriate pedigree, meaning you know, it's legit is a is a strong investment in remains strong investment. That's just me though. But my money's in behind that investment because I got a bunch of them car funds. Oh, you had a soccer ball donation. Thank you. I like how I love that. It's five years later. Cool. Cool man. This is turning to watch questions. Okay. Secondary funds paid the money, would you buy two tone blue Rolex mariner or a high mileage e forty six m three both completely irrational? I know one hundred percent what I would buy. That's funny with secondary funds. Well, one of only one of them's going to maintain its value, one will maintain its value, and cost, you almost nothing to own the other one will cost you a fortune. Every corner be fun might be kind of fun. I say, by the watch out your money. Second. Yeah. I mean I already have any forty six that's hard, though. Because, you know, buying something that cost that much. And you just sits in a shelf, but you make great points. I mean it also it also depends like disease already have a sports car or not. You don't already have a sports car and you have secondary funds. You should definitely get a sports car before you get a nice watch, and yeah. You already have us sports car, and you're talking about the money matters. I mean secondary funds a watch or a car, you've got some money, you don't have all that much money, right? And if something tells me, he doesn't have that money to lose. Well, then you should be. Mileage one. Ah. I say, get the watch unless you already have a sports. Dante said, also check your finances, first Dante says currently saving up for my first bike after finishing the MSF course that's the motorcycle safety foundation. Course I did that course I did the beginner. And the advanced course I got my license through them. And then they paid me to come back for to follow up courses really. Yeah. They pay you like seventy five dollars to come back six months, and then eighteen months later, and you take a follow up course and a survey. And they pay you really good system. Yeah. I didn't take that course. And I went to the hospital. I would say the course his Dante says a thoughts on older, carbureted motorcycles versus newer, fuel injected motorcycles over had you ever had an old carbonated motorcycle. I mean you've had all the carbon cars. Yeah. How much more fatal ING that require then a fuel injected car? I mean well, when I had carbonated cars, I didn't know how to fill them. So I just accepted, whatever they gave me for most part, I, I turn the screws a little bit. And it was just very like backyard RPM Dino. But I think my thought would be if you're gonna ride a bike over hills, a lot or take any long trips, he'd probably want if I write like you'd want fuel injection because you're going to have to change jets like do you wanna ride from California to New York, and go over three sets of mountains probably not carburetor? I, I don't know look visit it's for me. It's a philosophical question. You want to collect bikes or do you want to be riding the bikes? You know what I mean? If your goal is to be out there writing a fuel injected motorcycle? A modern motorcycle is one of the most reliable vehicles. You can I mean carve sound cool, and they do. It's a different induction son, and they are fun, and I would personally like to rebuild a motorcycle just to learn how they work. And that's a good way to do is put you wanna do it by choice, or by because I, I would have I mean look, I would apply that same thought process to, to your car, you know what I mean? Do you wanna carbonated card? Do you wanna fuel injected car? Same thing with bike me just gimme some that starts when I turned the key. And I've had I have never had higher satisfaction with the product ever. Then my Yamaha scooter bought a for fourteen hundred dollars off a Chris Hayes, who even knows where he got. He didn't buy it new, and it has sixty four hundred miles on it of Atta for five and a half years spent three hundred total dollars maintaining now and maybe it's a hundred and fifty bucks a year to ensure eighty miles a gallon, I've never ever. Ever ever had a problem aside from a dead battery ever is great. And I could turn around and probably sell it at for more than I paid for everybody's over two grand right now. Yeah. Off and other they're selling e-bikes, sorta, like five grand on Santa Monica. The day you could buy a moped. It does the same thing for a fifth price. I'm doing a story this week, Patrick George hired me to do a story for Jellab dick ranking the e mobility scooter, it'll be funny. I think it will probably be funny. The word ship box. Some of them are really bad. Where are we at okay, Matt a friend, French front shock? Funks. My dad just bought a an o eight BMW six fifty. I coupe with a manual any modifications suggestions for his new daily. No. I mean that's cool. He bought a six fifty with a manual. That's neat. Yeah. Doesn't mean the daily, right. Yeah. I don't know what you would do really with it. Dinan might make a saw tuned for it probably, I would I would check with them because they make really safe reliable stuff. You got to set a wheels. Nice set tires kind of stop there. I mean it's not an six it's never gonna be. So it's a cruiser. It's a cruiser make it crews put them Ahmad fund into the repair fund. Yeah. Yeah. I six fifty. I believe it was the beginning of the turbo engine, because it was just the six forty five was non turbo. Right. I think the fifty was turbo. Yeah. So that's the turbo motor, which I believe it is. And you can get a tune, then yeah, that's what I mean. I think I might be off of my years. But that's all I got for you, buddy. Hield says, I bought a C six zero six corvette, partly Zack's fault yet. Welcome coming from a miata with some track experience advice for adjusting to a higher horsepower car with a reputation for tricky handling. Now, you don't want to put a cork in you butthole tricky tricky handling. I think. Handle it. I think it I don't think it tricky handling. I I've had zero six race shacks before and I've had found the very fun when they don't overheat. Right. That was a great jab at like at seven six. Oh, type c six six. Oh. Okay. I don't know what year he has. But at certain year at a certain year, they added the PT M. Right. I don't think they all had the. P. T M. The one seven and it had a version, traction control, traction control to step kind of thing. Okay. I think the later ones might got the P T M, which is a more of a step one. And I would just say use it just I think the limits are way, higher than the car. He came out of unless you're miata was really built. Now you've got more grip more power. It's bigger. You're going to be way faster. I would just ease into it and get used to it on, like, lower speed tracks like streets, don't, you know, don't go, too big willow or something like that, for your first road course go to a tighter track. That's more like second third year and get used to the car where you're going lower speeds. If you loop it or something, you're less likely to go into wall. Yeah. Also, like I mean, maybe find a skid, Pat, I don't know if you find a skid pad and really get comfortable doing some slides in second gear, you know, and feeling out what, what, what makes understeer well you know, we're in a really safe environment. Like that's a good place to also the, the really good thing about corvettes is that. They don't really do anything. You don't tell them to do, even the psycho death ones like the Ziara wands and shit. Like like the one thing that's always been really nice about an LS, powered car, especially one of the NA ones is you. You really can always just use less throttle. Like there's not like these cars makes so much torque. Like I would say when you go to attract day, like do a fucking entire lap in fourth gear like a couple of laps in for you know what I mean. Like don't shift at all? Like, you know, do do some laps where you pretend you're red line is four thousand rpm, because these things makes so much torque the like you can still go pretty fast or out of the race draft. Absolutely. No. Dave yourself a false. Red line and work, your way up that way too. Yeah. That's a good call. I would say that as a thing. Let's see. Or hey, says Daiva prefer driving partner on press, launches people. No need to say names that I would yes. There are a hundred percent people. I avoid there are people, I refuse to drive with as a matter of fact, and I will not name, names, and, yeah, I do have a preferred driving partners on press launches. I mean, if someone like a like a Spinelli, you know, or like one of my actual like Tony Kuroda, or like one of the people that, that we have on this show all the time, which totally does happen, then yeah, I'll have one of them if not my friend, Jim Resnick who I see a lot who writes for ars Technica. He has a lot of racing experience. And I really do enjoy driving with him. He's a he's a very good driver. And he's a lot of fun. Larry Wester, any Larry Webster isn't bid on. Yeah. I've been on one with Larry Webster. Like, yeah. Moscow and one of the bullet launch with. Yeah. I, I definitely have few just like my, my friends. My friends in the industry most it's occasionally. I've never been put with someone horrible like twice you know what I mean? Like I've never like had to get back in the car with someone where I'm like, oh, God. Not this person. Again, that's never happened. I've been put with bad people. But now not so much any more now they now they've kind of figuring out. Let's see. Randy says, can I describe what sort of videos? You would make if the revenue didn't matter like a billionaire paid us to make any video. We wanted. More. More all cars, go to heaven trips. It'd be really fun which is open for sponsorship. Yeah. I mean that wouldn't even be a billionaire that could be thousand air could pay for that. Yeah. Those, those kinds of, of stuff out in the wilderness, you know, with a terrible car that you're turning into a hero is the most fun that you can do the, the least fun things about that is anything related to the filming. And if I had money me and Zach fad and Tom would be the cast, maybe the directors and we would have a film crew that could and I would never have to touch a camera. And I could and I could enjoy the thing that we were doing without having to be like, hang on a minute. Stop speed cameras. Now now, you know. So that's I wouldn't even be a ton of money would just be a little bit. Yeah. That's pretty. That's the best thing ever. Word dot says, how is the room in the super for a long torso? Well, I don't know how long your torso is. But my I'm six foot three and my pants are insieme thirty. So I have a pretty long torso. Yeah. I have a long torso short legs. So I think it's fine. But just the same thing. I said about if you've a long torso, you're gonna have to duck under that side pillar, which might be annoying. Yeah. Yeah. Insert we name says, I hear that next generation BMW M cars are going to get Toyota engines. Have you heard about this, do you know if it's true, and what's your thought I have not joke? I think that's a bad joke. I mean if it's if it's not a bad job. My answer is no, I don't believe that right now. The engine flow is going one way. And should the engine rivers flow? Direction for the super. I don't think they're gonna change anytime soon. I don't believe that. But for the record, I, particularly enjoy the Toyota engines in the Lotus of aura Dame. I just talked to chlorine, great Correy's got is going to have a day for us. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Icon media's doing Lotus now they're getting the avoid GT yet it bringing it buffet. Yeah. So we don't we're not going to get. I don't think we get the same exact the GT four thirty they get in Europe. But we get the Ford GT which I think, has not the big splitter. But the same engine. Okay. So, yeah, but I'm that's going to be the end of the of aural line before the, the new, but I see more. Vohra. It's good. I've never driven a Lotus. Oh, any kind? Oh, the Avar is such a fucking awesome car. It makes you think about how terrible some other cars are. If I, I would buy more, let's see Ivan deal. Min says, I'm selling my portion nine eight seven point two. S. T. P. C. I'm looking for a slower car. I wonder if it's been modified by two by turbos. It's. Third. Okay. I'm looking for a slower car for a home in the Ozark mountains. Slow fun tight road. What is the moon ago, a nine nine six turbo or Ferrari, three twenty eight GTS? Oh man. Okay. Okay. I feel like this guy, you kind of all over the place. Yeah. So he he, he selling a car and look for something slower and a nine nine six turbo is slower than what he's got right now. I'm not so sure unless his cars like bash it fast. Right. But a three twenty eight GTS is a lovely for Ari. I'm a big fan of those. But if you're driving very tight twisty roads that car has no power steering. That's got that big pizza pie steering wheel. Right. Like a UPS truck, and no power steering, and you're going to be shuffling that bitch all day. So I would I would not recommend non power steering vehicle to go as we know is not a nine hundred sixty road. It's like a second third year, Audi r eight road fast because it's a it was more responsive than having a turbo engine. Here's what I recommend a BMW three twenty eight thirty three twenty five IS with some nice little suspension with the spec. Thirty suspension with s fifty to swap. Oh, yeah. Pa if you've got a little more money s through the to swap little bit little bit more power. But if not just a nice Lee, thirty that'd be very nice. But I would do Benjamin says can a Toyota eighty six handle daily driver duties of a base fiesta like kids in the back and handing handling a six foot two two hundred and fifty driver. Pound drive at the same time. I'm gonna go with. No, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a hard. No, they're Benjamin. I think I'm thinking to myself, you're basically, describing me roughly, and if I had there's no kids going behind me in an F, or as if I have people getting in and out of a car lot. I wanna Ford or it makes life easier. All I think your life would get way harder and it will be worth it. Sorry about Spencer says thanks for saving meals for on it. I didn't save nothing kept it kept it going. That's all put oil in it, Allen says, I have a ninety seven super TT. I'm slowly fixing it the. To Jay z is bulletproof the turbo and vacuum lines are not a blue. The stock turbo two years ago at four hundred twenty wheel horsepower, but it is an LLC five hundred of the nineties highway cruiser kinda capable on corners. What I will say that from an owner is in theory. You're turbo vacuum minds were twenty years old. So, like the river parts are gonna wear out. You need to replace those so west says with the Lexus that a million miles, and the, the parking garage being built to a slow plans to turn the Lexus logbook and associated content into all cars three, not really. That was going to be a plan before. Thaddeus moves to do by all cars, three was pretty much going to be the Thaddeus project as we we finished that, that, but Thad moved to do by two years, could finish the Lexus project and that kind of no, I'd like to make all cars three again. But again our another one, but I really do think it's going to have to be like, really offering again. The end of the Lexus stories that I'm writing like a five page piece for road and track magazine about it. That's pretty much the end of the Lexus story. Maybe I can find some good nuggets in the log book, I thought about maybe trying to get the logbook made into a book because that might kind of be fun. But it depends on. What's in there, I have to read through I gotta take some time to read it. It's all handwritten. So take awhile, it's on. It's on people were pretty legible. I read through it a little bit when we were driving was there any nauseates? You find the it sounds funny shit. I think my bookmarked it a little bit in there. Okay. We'll take it. We'll, we'll we're going to look into it. Michael says, how does the Supra rank against the c seven Stingray or grand sport? Well, so first off, you don't wanna base Stingray. You wanna z z, fifty one minimum that's sixty five grand. So you're starting at like a minimum of eight grand, but probably more like ten to twelve grand more for corvette. Let's just remember that in nineteen Ninety-six a corvette grand sport was forty three thousand dollars. And a super was fifty six so now, now a grand sport, is probably seventy seventy five grand. And you know, twenty cheaper for a super. So these are the cars were talking about here. And, you know, a corvette grand sport, certainly is a much faster car than the Supra, the super has put together a little nicer, you know, tolerances, are a little tighter loud. There's a little higher quality stuff like that. The things you'd expect I mean, really like I know he's asking the question, so I have to give the answer, but you could pretty much guess your way to, to what the differences are between those cars, believe it or not, the corvette is going to be more practical. It has more space inside bigger with a bigger Trump opening morehead has better, visibility more headroom, and you can take the roof off entirely, and it comes in a manual and it's fast as fuck. Yes. So a lot of ways. You know, you are getting a more enthusiast car with a corvette that's also more practical. But if you value precision and a corvette, we'll have a little bit of drive train slopping, it the body panel, gaps. Might be inconsistent Matic is not the automatics horrible. You know, so that's where your money's going with the with the super pretty much I think, Ahmad, like a bolt on's Supra could probably keep up with a, a corvette z fifty one but like. Your, your bowl don's your four hundred wheel. Yeah. And then, like track pads and fluid. I think that could probably keep up on a track with the base corn. Sure. We'll. Yeah. Grand sport is faster for grab sports is serious serious. Great update on Hannah's car. MB's. Frenchie. Did. I not talk about it. Now, you will want to you said you were going to go, you said you were going to go look, I went to look at the car, right? And I bought it right. But I don't have it yet. And so I don't wanna talk about it yet. What I physically have it, then I will talk about it. Okay. I think but we do have a car. We've got a car and the Mercedes is getting detailed by Robbie on Saturday. So it can go on bring a trailer next week. No reserve fifty percent for charity. Very nice looking car. There's a great car. I would keep it. I have no problem with the car car works fucking awesome. And I just paid the reg I just paid the smog. And I just had a service done intending to keep it but had a was all. Hey, we need one car that has more than to see. And I was like God damn wife. Now, of course, we do so, yeah. Oh, right. Of von wassenberg, three seventeen Zine, this smo- versus super super one hundred thousand percents ones. Richie elks says, oh, longtime listener first-time cat guy advice for being a good cat parent. Oh, congratulations. Advisory in good cap parent play with your cat like act to actually proactively play with your cat. There's a book called cat Mojo by Jackson. Galaxy he's like the Caesar Milan of cats. I recommend reading it. Give your cat. A lot of entertaining things to do like, give him lots of stuff him or her lots of stuff to scratch. Let's scratching posts if your cat is an up high cat give the cat places to go up high the cat likes being down low give them places to hang out down low that is not like under your bed. You know what I mean? You don't take something away from a cat without giving them a better alternative, which is how you make a cat. Do what you want, but love your cat clean the litterbox. Don't get lazy with the fucking litterbox. And that's about it. Don't let it die. Dylan K bucket list, hiking trails angels landing Zion is my jam and the peekaboo trail in Bryce canyon are the two prettiest hikes, I've ever done. Buckle. I dunno far away from people as possible, so foreign country on it. You want to go like Australia. Exactly go a little more remote. And I go kind of national park hikes. I wanna go like could die. That's yeah. I'm going to stay off the good is. All right. Oh, no NBS Frenchie wants to complain about his Maserati grants reasonable again. And then he wants to know how the Coon tasha is it's great. I've put twenty five hundred kilometers on it in the last five months, and is doing very well, it leaks a little bit of oil, I think it, probably it probably leaks. Probably leaks. A teaspoon of oil from one spot every three days, pretty small not horrible pretty it's not horrible. It looks like a lot on the floor. But it's actually not that much. And there's not really much can do about it. Honestly, there's not. I mean I, I can like do some really I like. I believe that maybe. Yeah. The event my advice was literally wait till it needs servicing again, and then then call us, that's pretty much it. Yeah. A tiny leak coming from a very difficult to repair them. You just and the car holds sixteen quarts of oil and a dry sump like it's not it's not running out the car runs. Fucking tits Thursday is toss. Dr exercise day this week. Luke says ou lightly used manual. BMW to Twenty-eight is and Ford Fiesta s teas are both fifteen thousand dollars. What would you pick for a daily driver and fun car backseat not necessary? Normal weather. You present a hard bargain, and I am going to side against the fiesta ST for the first time ever on this show. The to twenty eight I is lovely. It is a better overall car than the fiesta, but I think, fun for fun, the fiesta, a little bit more mannequin exciting when I've driven those two cars. Depends on how much how much how much weight you wanna put on the fun, category versus the daily category. Because it's twenty eight is like a car you can grow with you know, take tonight's dinner take to an interview, take two thing you know, driving on the highway way. More comfortably for a long period time, much quieter inside. Yeah. I'm gonna go with two twenty I think the to Twenty-eight pretty RAD and doesn't get enough love for the record. We have. We have streaming issues at the two hour. Mark is our it becomes a little iffy. We're at one fifty two. We'll be okay. We've gone over a couple of times. All right. Cool. Let's see Andrew says Detroit say anything about a track warranty like GM does they didn't. And nobody asked but they, they didn't. But they referred many times to customers taking their cars on race tracks, which comes, I missed the Toyota Subaru. Yeah, I, I have. No. I don't have any, I'd love to also to follow up Email about that. I'll ask the Toyota guys. I think they would they'd probably tell me but they were pretty through Seattle about customers going on race track. So I, I don't think they're going to ham fist people with, with a with the weird warranty thing. Oh, Paco's says, here's your S T, commissioning got one and another for teaching amount of Dr stick. There you go. You know that my how to drive stick video, which I fucked and put off making for months out of laziness is the number one. Search results on Google when you Google how to drive stick. Really? Yeah. That's fantastic. Yeah. It's. Awesome took me sixteen minutes to make the best pay to everybody that no Paul's garage was. Will widely is initial impressions of how the Jeep gladiator looks Zach. It looks cool. Looks like a Jeep. Deepened pickup truck. Yeah, it looks tough industrial. I you know, it looks I'm a big fan in of how the new GPS look in general. I think they look really nice and strike. The ones I've seen around. I think they've done. They did a really good job of not fucking it up. Now they did clever things like they spaced out the headlights more. They made the grille inserts a little bit wider. LED's on the fenders look weird. I when you see him, I think the proportions are really good. And it's you know, the GPS are boxy anyway. So you had a box bed. Do it like. Yeah. That looks like v. Yeah. Makes sense soccer. You going to go to the gladiator drive. Yeah, I think on may, thirtieth gladiator drive in Malibu ANZAC is going. I am on my honeymoon with offer hurting and Malibu, Caleb says thoughts on the current civic sl coupe Zack has a review of it. Yeah. Watch your view good car. I don't like the way it looks but really good deal. Handles good. It's quick, and it has, like lots of features inside like it's a really good bargain it out. Kittens snipe. I live in LA, what roads suit the best best suit, the fiestas T ladder, go canyon road. Little to Hunga canyon road. Snout Wilson road. Oh, GM are Glendora mountain road. Yeah. GM I would say gee is probably the best Glendora mountain wrote, soo-hong Kim says car and driver just tested, a super, it beat the zero to sixty and skid pad results of the Cayman GTS thoughts. Well, I suddenly I think it suddenly makes it price competitive as it almost matches corvette. I didn't know that. And that's excellent good for them. Toyota really set up that Porsche comparison. And I think that even if the numbers do match that came in which if it does, it's fucking great good for Toyota. Execs are came a great car. But if it does match it. That's excellent. I still don't think the same customer like when people ask me about should I get a Porsche or a Supra ago. We'll do you want a mid engine driving experience? Or do you. Wanna front engine driving experience. Like these are very different experiences like even if they can get around the racetrack in exactly the same amount of time the way the, the driver feels while doing it will be completely different. True. So I really think you should decide what type of experience you'd like to have, and then shop accordingly. It'll really help reduce your fucking choices. Yeah. And I mean also has a badge thing once Porsche wants his Toyota. Yeah. There will be people that will think about that. And if you're out there going, but Matt, I'm interested in the super but I've never driven either a corvette, or came in or like I can't do all your homework for you. Like go to taro. Go to fucking enterprise like it is possible to get behind the wheel of some of this stuff. And if you're going to go out and buy a brand new fifty thousand dollar car and you don't know what you want, like it's worth a few hundred bucks or even a thousand or two thousand to like go to a school or rent one or whatever like just to find out maybe you don't like something. And, you know, you can go to the dealership and do it for free, but you might accidentally walk out with the car whereas no writer. I don't think dealership drive a I don't think they're gonna let anyone test-drive supers at or more. Well, it's no, we're not talking about super we're talking about other stuff, but it's into five minute. Drive around five minute drive versus. Yeah. Either a track, or a canyon or some kind of, you know using it in your own life. What I mean? But they really do like the super in the Cayman like these are wildly different driving experiences. Even if the numbers say they go the same speed around a track, but good for them if that's true from car and driver. Excellent. Low strife bought analysis, four hundred congratulations. Jeremy says I had a stock and fifty four this goes back to our original conversations, asking people how their n fifty four's were one hundred seventy thousand miles on it. Some, some issues with gaskets, otherwise just the fuel pump issue and the normal sensors, coils, etc. Which at one hundred seventy thousand miles our maintenance items row apps store that for sure not as good as Toyota, but better than an m car. That's good. Okay, zephyr says I went from a scat pack challenger to a miata ND club, which was a bad choice in Texas. I'm look in Texas. I agree. That's a lot of highway a lot of droning. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of loud. Wind new out. So the man is great. I'm looking for my next daily driver auto cross and lots of highway driving. I'm roughly Matt size and proportions fifty thousand and under corvette. I mean, I would say a corvette is a great great choice for you. Let's see fifty thousand also, you know, go back and get you a lot of Cayman gets you. Again. You into us Debbie really came to be great auto cross car. Yeah. So it an to an M two would be nice fifty thousand you know, get you a lightly used. Yeah. Yeah. Gets you any number of 'em threes as well. I'm thinking, what has really? Maybe not. Well, my size, you're not going to like a focus RS two big philosophy and fun. Gloucester end was pretty good. I think that'd be pretty mean in an auto cross probably. It's got a real dif-. Yeah. And with the optional diff-, and we drove it, we drove it for a couple of hours. It was pretty fun. Yeah. I would look at that. And the Texas roads are waste mood in here. Yeah. Look at that good, call save much money, civic type bar, lots of highway driving and auto cross heat. They don't like warm days. Yeah. But auto cross though, it's not a track day. It's an auto cross overheat and auto cross. True. Yeah. You're doing lower speeds less airflow, but it's a short run than like then a lap latte throat at the pile alongside while this TI's STI's decent highway car. Yeah. Good auto cross to sharp, you know, something that way better. Did I say super yet, I mean Supra? Right. If you can get in on one. Yeah. Get a super would be reduced choice here. I think it'd be fun. Autocrat jaekle. Yeah, rear a rear a Supra is, is kind of like a much more refined much faster. Miata. Me going from a miata to a Supra dynamically makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Fancier beers. Gabriel wants us to talk about lick Holter Gijon courtroom jail. See watches. Okay. They also make a lot of gauges, right? You probably you probably know you probably know. Right. Check these out the cute. The Coulter gauges can be found in. Oh, that's gates. That's why cages. Oh boy, oh boy, you find him on all kinds of Italian of vehicles here. You will find an Alfa Romeo some Jazeera some visual gauges here you around last very nice. Here's some some very vintage. See this logo. You probably recognize right. That's, that's a that's what we're talking about here. Gotcha. Yup. Watches. The watch folks representing today in the super chat. Oh, no. I think I just closed the YouTube window. Do you think we're still live at don't know? Oh, no. What happens if you close the YouTube window, we'll find out? Oh, no. Are we still alive? So by the fuck this control room, so bite in fuck this up right now. Okay. That's. I think we still are. I think I just had a major fuck up. It's a good thing to know. What's. Where are we live events go back in? I'm sorry, folks. Control them control room, are we still there? Live now fuck fucking well. Right. Let's look at that. Let's check go down to chat, like go to regular Chattan. Let's make sure that people like because there's all good. So lifelock. Cool. All right. Let's get it almost a big fuck out of smart thing that you put in there, like, hey, it's very smart. Someone could close the tab, and you still streaming. That's yes, Zach, do you want to do a one taking a sixty three Buick special convertible in Minnesota new John, Jerry says if cabin size isn't an issue. Would you rather be driving the, the new super or an M to competition? I find them to literally be interchangeable like what is not like to competition like is probably stiffer. I haven't driven the competition just regular them too. You can get an Emmanuel right? Or is the competition? Only only do clutch dual clutch. Clutch only. Due. Clutch probably beats auto by a little bit. But like they're pretty much interchangeable. I think they really are like they they're front rear kind of similar power to weight ratio. I'm drawn to super now because it's the new kid on the block, and it's different looking where the two and the other two and all the three series like you know, I, I think the super design is a nice like sultry shape that hasn't been in cars for while. So I'm a fan of it. Yeah, the two is a little more sleepy. You know, if the right, color, it kind of disappears in the crowd. It is profile yet, but from the front, it's like it's definitely more aggressive looking, they're sharpening, all the angles and the gills the grills and stuff like that I prefer the ingress egress of the two but that's but I'm bigger. You understand it because it's hard for me to not save cat if cabin is, is an issue. Honestly, six one half dozen the other. Yeah. Think whichever one speaks to you. You'd probably be happy. She got driving back to back back to back Spencer. His info on the Vate battery. Made by vessel. And they were gifts. Can I guess, for my, my groomsmen has my name engraved on it? It's gangster luxury eight ten batteries. That's what's happening in two thousand nineteen last three and then we're calling this game Brett says after doing fifteen thousand miles in six months, in my daily Meany GP, too. Well, good for you. I'm looking for a second set of rims because shattered the first. Yup. Any ideas seventeen inches is a mosque. Thanks again. Many's are fucking terrible with big rims all the ws and the J C W, GP's have eighteens or, or bigger and they're a disaster, seventeen or sixteen what you want your mainly. I would say what looks great on a mini, I would say turbo maks, or like fifteen fifty to look really nice on minis, I always liked to recommend HR wheels because they're light their strong. If someone makes a new version of Panna sport. That'd be pretty bad. Those look good. Bobby pretty exciting. Well, and then, you know, your standard kind of lightweight options, your SS ours. Your income is your Z's track wheels race wheels. Always look good light is always good. I think he's a good with thicker spokes center. Spokes I don't know much about wheels. I know that the wheels, I had on mine. We're like the split forks, kind of. And there was like a ten like ten oh yeah. I know. Yeah. Those look to like a curfew. It. Yeah. But they were eighteen and they were I would never get them again. Yeah. Patrick says I have a twenty thirteen Mustang five oh, tons of fun. And one of my dream cars, what do you think of the new GT five hundred is seven hundred power too much thoughts of no manual? I'm reserving judgment until I drive it. Seven dollars powers not too much if it's managed properly. And if it's a well rounded driving experience. I think I think we're getting used to that level of thrust. Now at yeah. So it's all like you said it's about how's the how the gears engage. How does everything else work around it? How's it feel how livable is it? Yeah. Like seven hundred horsepower in a Mustang is not too much seven hundred fifty horsepower and seven fifty torque or whatever in a corvette is like scary as hell. Now why, why is it more manageable Mustang while Mustangs, five hundred pounds heavier to start with, and it also Mustangs, have so much drivetrain loss. This is bad. Pushing so much drivetrain laws, and, and they have such bad ERO. You're, you're constantly, you know, a corvette has great arrow and a corvette has less drive train loss, and a corvette, you know, is lighter. And so, you know, it's, it's a big difference. A hell can is fun, but kinda manageable on race track. Yes. You know, eighty thousand pounds less scary. Yeah. Good time. Yeah. So I don't think the GD five hundred -sarily too much. If thought is put to the overall driving experience, a good point. I think it will be thoughts of no manual. There's not a lot of manuals out there that can hold that kind of power and one of them is being used in the hell cat. I don't know why it's there they're on, because it's a traumatic and the GT three fifty has a traffic. Maybe they just. Maybe seventy older and older Intel doesn't want that. Yeah. You know, I think it goes back to the pennies, like, what does it cost them to develop that system? Do they want to spend it? What's the take rate? We, you know, we Emmanuel's, but as long as you can get a three fifty three fifty are Emmanuel like I'm okay with that? I mean look look at Porsche, you can get you can get a GT three in many different ways in Emmanuel, you wanna turbo S auto only, you know, the, the guarantee, you know, people are going to be fucking like launching those things. You know what I mean? So they wanna guarantee that people aren't destroying clutches. Yeah. Very true that has a lot to manage. Let's be real. We all want to be superheroes and drive like one drivers. But, like that's a lot. It would probably be more fun on get so much. Hey for this like driving with two hands on the wheel. Like you said about the z are one give both hands on the wheel. It's a little bit easier and it's seven hundred horsepower. That's a lot. Some people can handle it. Enjoy it a lot can't. Yup. Let's see last one bought an eighty nine skyline GTS t because my one take, thank you would GTS's are cool blue, the oil pump after eight months from now suave, again, an army twenty five do I think the market will go up for them. So here's the thing with our thirty twos. And he's talking about an Arthur, D, two GTS T, which is the rear wheel drive narrow body. Let me find a good. What year? Did you say in me? Get an accurate picture of an eighty nine here's one that's a little fucking picture. Jesus. That's like GTS do tools. You can do large. Only I know I'm looking for GTS t- though, is that one. All these pictures, I'll kind of suck, so it's the skyline with narrow body. Here's Accu fuck all talk and the problem with Arthur D twos. Are they built a lot of them like they're they built like sixty thousand plus our thirty two GTRI's, and so, and they built a lot of GTS tease that's GTS sedan, there's act if we can find a coup but like GDR but do I think. Will go up. Not really. I think they're bottomed out in terms of the fact that are in terms of if you have a clean GTS t. That works at it's pretty much stock or has to the tasteful or and or desirable. Mods. Fine. You can use that Patriot Act. Zack. Just really hard to find good picture this thing. But. About the market. Yeah. Luggage bottomed out at, like ten geez. You know what I mean? If you keep it nice, you can probably get your money back out of it down the line. But I think right now and the rising tide does lift all boats and GTRI's are on the rise. And so, you know, it's, it's not a huge investment. So it's not you're not gonna get much back as your ten thousand dollar car going to be worth fifty anytime soon. Probably not can you drive it for a bid? And if you take care of it, can you get your ten back probably? And if you know if it's monitored right and it's not as well as well done. I've heard the RB's also have willa she's gonna like, well, that's what he said. He'd he'd blues oil pump. You have said he's suave. He's Wapping in a new well. GST came with an Rb twenty. Yeah. The two leader in line, six Rb twenty five twenty five is the bigger two point five liter in line set thought even like the twenty even the RB twenty six head an oil like oversaw shaft. Ring gear or something. Right. And, you know, the ones that Sean does or whatever he inspects them first. And if they're fucked to get a motor sport grade gear. There is an upgrade, you upgrade, I believe, to the art thirty four. Welcome. No com, which they make. And so I think it's might be a pain in the ass to put in or something. But there is a sort of preventative maintenance item that you can do for that. All right. Anyway, there's now, now this dude's all upset because he thinks where we won't come to Minnesota, 'cause they don't like Minnesota can we explain to you before we leave how videos work come to Minnesota to film Buick for us to do that? We have to spend a minimum because I just flew to Minnesota. It's fucking expensive and a minimum five hundred dollars as a flight. It also takes all day. It also takes all day to get home. So now takes two days and five hundred dollars out of pocket to film, a sixty three Buick special which I'm sure is very nice. But at about three hundred and fifty dollars per hundred thousand views we'd have to get two hundred thousand views just to make our out of pocket money back says he Vati happening. Yeah. No cars. It's just far. Yeah. It's not the car. Just it's the far. The car isn't the problem. Bring the car here. It's the far not the car, don't drive a sixty three Buick here you'll from there might die. You might all right? Well, that's our show, folks. Thank you for listening. If you're with us live. Thank you for joining us live. If you aren't thank you, anyway, next show, we got Thursday. This Thursday is the sixteenth Carlos Lazaga. Yeah. Who is coming to pick up his Tupperware and also to do it show bro. 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03 - Car Design with Ian Cameron and Verena Kloos Part 1 - Rolls Royce and Design Works

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03 - Car Design with Ian Cameron and Verena Kloos Part 1 - Rolls Royce and Design Works

"From commedia this is that commander. This is cars that matter. I'm here with my good friend. And kinda sort of just just about everything Robert Ross. Well I'm not sure I deserve that but I am here with some good friends who are connoisseurs of everything. Certainly when it comes to automotive design in Cameron and Green Aclu's thanks for joining us to talk about precisely the subject that this program focuses on cars that matter. Hi Hi Robin thank you great to have you here. VERINA are recently retired. I say with a great deal of envy and at President Barking on some new creative challenges with the same forever over that drove them to accomplish so much within the BMW group with whom they both worked. Most recently is the former design director of Rolls Royce. Motor cars ars since one thousand nine hundred ninety nine Was The visionary behind the rebirth of the brand following its takeover by BMW and the relaunch of The Rolls Royce Phantom in two thousand three once again Rolls Royce became the standard bearer of automotive luxury something. We talk about a lot here and could rightfully rightfully be called the best car in the world as as the company slogan since Nineteen Seven under his leadership team designed the Phantom seven ushering in and really a whole new design language that At once was reverential two rolls royces past but utterly forward thinking in so many ways when you launched in two thousand the three you launched with a completely new design a completely new concept which they came to you in nineteen ninety nine and told you you're going to be the chief designer for the new rolls-royce mark yes. It happens somewhat like that not quite as as logically or smoothly as project gains momentum. I think as certainly as BMW realized what they're taken on in terms of time commitment having acquired the rights to the brand Rolls Royce from Volkswagen. This was a date set in stone. Not Sand rather like a world football championship will whatever you want to compare it to the Olympics. We couldn't change. The data date was set when crew would no longer be the home of the production of Rolls Royce. BMW would be responsible in the net date. We had to be ready. Not just tell me about that moment where you found that you were going to be involved in this project. What did it feel like? Who told you about it? Did you drink heavily or what happened. We we already drinking heavily beforehand but now the truth is that BMW had a very special person. In charge of the project was delayed. Karlheinz and scout fell yeah. It was a phenomenal character. had been responsible for building up. BMW Motorsport the brand into what it was and he was really someone who understood and got to the roots of Brandon. What a brand need? What about if he hadn't existed the project would never have happened happened? He was ready the founding pillar and very complimentary of Robert say that I did this that and the other. The truth is when you speak of a piece of music music which to me. A design is usually include the orchestra. It's never just one person. Someone is the conductor. Someone has to hold the baton for sure but the baton is useless useless if the people in front of him can't play that team already there did you have to handle team was within BMW but it was It was then source from all over the world world including Design works actually. The design of the exterior was designed works employees. Sitting here in Sunny California. Probably a good time to introduce produce Marina Verena close was former president of BMW design works in Southern California since two thousand four so meanwhile jons working a between Munich Unocal Goodwood Farina is industriously running the operation of BMW's subsidiary in California design works as a subsidiary BMW with studios located in Munich. Obviously Los Angeles and Shanghai in you set up the studio in Shanghai as well as correct definitely tappin during my tenure doc but before we started a tapping into Asia through a studio in Singapore before we moved to Shanghai clearly the Los Angeles operation was instrumental in not not only informing the design of some Rolls Royce products but a considerable number of other projects as well. It's absolutely right. Designed boxes is one of the leading design agencies on this planet and works in the creative field of strategic consulting and works for many many clients. BMW YOU GROUP IS GONNA start a motive variety of in the sense of automotive design. US eight works only for the BMW grew out of confidentiality reasons but in in in the area of truck design there are many more clients design. Works us is working for and you did a lot of work in aviation. I understand. We'll talk about that too. That was one of the industry categories. That was somehow my ambition to grow this field because somehow felt right to cater to the EH premium design needs for BMW to walk more in the creation industry. One of a greatest values of design works unlike other automotive studios in California. They work with third party clientele in fields completely outside the automotive which gives them access in the case of the aviation experience the two clientele in the world which is very akin to Rolls Royce. That was a huge building block for us to use that to work outside the typical new restrictions of an automotive engineering organization in Munich. This was absolutely essential to try and free ourselves from the BMW world and get into the Rolls Royce world and get acceptance if you're arguing with engineers on your home turf. You'll hear the same log. UMENTS reasoning anything being repeated day after this is their mantra. If you move outside of that you can stop leaving a different point of view. And when actually realized they had in the hands and one of the first meetings I do remember in the so-called design penthouse in BMW. We're all models and future concepts presented. They put together some plans vision strategies typical sort of processes and teams. That would be involved. The try and speculate understand what was necessary and this was under the guidance of Wolfgang Righteously. Who still in house and we called old people from rover who was part of the group at that time was very important to have the British content the British understanding we obviously had people from designed signed works and also people from Munich and interesting international salute melding of German build quality as you were building a factory jury in Goodwood outside a London drew people from all the Studios Rover designed works Munich and set them up in a very secrets undercover to cover skunkworks type of student in? ooh That's a good movie London but before that we had this meeting in the Pant House everything was laid up shedules process laid out and then people listening. Yeah we'll have to do this have to do this to have this. These people in in came rights learn looked at an oasis is a joke. Isn't it went out doing it like this and has to be done here there and everywhere but not here yea not with these processes and of course everybody in a hierarchical organization nor didn't say yes of course but he set the ball rolling to make it clear. This would not be done under the normal auspices of a BMW design and engineering. Would it be safe to say. That Rolls Royce really really did operate much like an independent mark as it had done before. It's aquisition by BMW. Absolutely absolutely had to because they didn't have the resources to do anything else. It's fair to say that that time things have changed in the meantime first of all. BMW ready had experience in producing delivering a non on BMW product in the Range Rover which they'd realized you couldn't do a better description. Some of Ford's brands. They simply a re bodied Ford. This was not going to be the case. They very quickly understood. It had to be done differently but this is not to say that that that dates could be moved or there was endless resource the factors. You couldn't within an organization I'd BMW just to put make things clear. It could not be the case of the most expensive products would be we run under some vengeance from the other cheaper models the BMW's near the had to pay for themselves. A complete new paper compete new piece of paper With black and Lincoln not rent exactly no reading reading. Can we talk about this. Had all the fairly remarkable story of Volkswagen buying saying the Rolls Royce Bentley Company and then being somewhat surprised that the Rolls Royce Mark was I guess that's a nice way way to put it it it it It actually turned out to have been licensed to the company that they acquired and the MW talk about right place right time and right pocket then. Acquired that mark for the use in automotive said the time in The the BMW CEO at the time was fishing three that WHO's a great fan of certain British brands. He's a distant cousin to Alec. Issigonis the famous engineer. BMC Engineer Mini Engineer and he was very keen. Gene on acquiring Rolls Royce. BMW already supplied Rolls Royce with a lot of components right for the cars airbags engines etcetera. And of course. BMW had an aero engine business. Going with Rolls Royce. All this appeared not to matter to Volkswagen and they didn't realize to what extent Rolls Royce and vicars were somewhat in bed together until the last minute which rarely happens late Mr School You know had had the rug pulled out from under his feats. Did some lawyers end up in trouble for this. I I don't know I'm sure there are a lot of red faces but In any case you could say he got sweet revenge late because he hired pictured three later and fired him so as more or less. I mean it's. It's a pity because they're all Britain. Brilliant men brilliant brilliant people who sadly say. The industry is lacking this day. I think we're GONNA take fifteen seconds and we'll be right back back on a shortlist of every Watch list would have to be the TAG HEUER Monaco. It's the most iconic automotive connection that a person can have with the risks. What for me it's The icon of motorsports timekeeping back into the car that you introduced in two thousand three Robert and I were involved in the relaunch here in the US. With with a buddy of yours. Jim Selwyn that we have the all missed. Probably one of the greatest marketers and salespeople any of us have ever met or Jim is quite a character And certainly what we needed to kick-start things on this side of the of the of the ocean he was very elemental in certain initiatives. But the the fact was that time was running the project was. I wouldn't say stalling. You could tell it. The initial start is always difficult and we simply had to get gets information. Learn dig ourselves into what Rolls Royce was. All about. The truth is we did not know we could not possibly know but again fortunately originally we had cowed fold. who was back here? And who understood what was necessary lotteries resistance from traditional Rolls Royce owners enthusiasts clubs and one of the first things that counsel did was he his summer holiday after the acquisition was spent touring the UK in a Sarraf the BMW and jump and what was the last year of a Sarraf. Lost had the graph was three two thousand three handed over to us. I remember are we I remember Rolls Royce prior to the takeover had the reps out here had ceremoniously delivered the last corniche convertible to Our offices at ROB report and I had the pleasure of driving having the big boat for about a week it was a beautiful dark blue thing with gorgeous tan interior with switches that went click. Well not only did they do. Do that I remember that it was parked in my driveway. And I was in the midst of raising the roof and it literally froze solid like a dinosaur fossil Seoul in fully erect condition so that this roof sticking up fully probably ten feet up into the air was paralyzed in wouldn't work. It wouldn't go up. It wouldn't go down. It was sticking straight up in the air and it was a personal Sunday and I was panicked because I thought well this is a great way to have everyone in the neighborhood. Make Fun of me and I was just having a car in your driveway was added with the F.. Sticking straight up. That was something great. I finally got a hold of an engineer. And he told me that. With the use of a very small Allen Wrench I could land y back crawl all the way into the trunk on my back and crank the little emergency agency mechanism about three thousand times and the roof. Which Frantic Rolls Royce Authentic Rolls Royce? But what a magnificent car it sort drove like a seventy six Chevrolet caprice but it was magnificent as any four hundred thousand new. You're driving a heavy car which which leads us to the car that you introduced in two thousand three the Phantom seven which fifty five hundred pounds six thousand pound. The Phantom being a aluminium space frame structure was set the compared to previous models incredibly light incredibly stiff I think it was one of the stiffest platforms even BMW produced fairly stiff upper lip. which is not to say that we had surprise is in the development of first running prototype we had for example that Cab fell to out and came back with a red face. He said well. So you guys joking. It's just drives like three series like an m three is not what we want. This is the Rolls Royce and these things the the mindset you have have to get over and a company like that. I say it's always like a blind person will know how to move themselves around their power from where they live. Everything is in the place where they know. Oh exactly where it is when you start a project that Rolls Royce. You have to move everything into a different position and let people get used to where that is otherwise you will not achieve this break and this is what slowly started to take place and happen but initially it was you know we were. We were not getting there just for a minute because this was a truly unique. Feeling the dial in the center console with the gift as as me well that was that blasted i-drive at the US which we simplified and and had to carry over but simplification was the key. 'cause I remember the sell sell will telling me my customers are eight years old and they're not going to understand how to use this. I drive to be fell on us. We will less. That's worried about the eight year old customers more about the forty year old future customers. Because that's what we have achieved that's where you designing for the customer experience the buying emotion or were you designing basically to impress yourself. We suddenly weren't trying to impress ourselves. I think we were trying to defined feet. We always had the I think we had huge respect for the past what Roy stood for. And you could only actually fail if you succeeded needed then you might just just just succeed so that was something that was absolutely never outta my mind but you gave us as customers. I gave us so much. I'm sorry but there's a technical term. I have to use cool shit to show our friends for example both front doors. You designed in an umbrella that you kept in the door a carbon fiber handle. Yes tell me about what what was is behind that. 'cause I can't remember other cars being designed with umbrellas in the door behind that was the British climates. But it's one of those things that sticks in people's minds it's one of the stories. The people like to tell like the non-revolving Rolls Royce emblem on the wheels. meaning that when you look at the wheels the roles raise emblem ause read. It is always perfectly upright. Yes and lived in what ball bearings. Or what was that. Two way counterweight is kept vertical. It was a a remarkable looking thing for the narrative for the whole Rolls Royce thriving. Experience that wafting at made the car almost look as if it was awesome trying to work hard at all the effortlessness one of the other remarkable things that I'd love to know. Whose idea was this? Nobody owned a Rolls Royce. Frantom and didn't didn't take their friends to a closed and locked car and ask them to try to steal the flying. The flying lady the flying lady in the front but a cool experience that was and you could. I really find out whether or not your friend was cool enough to handle the reaction for those of you. Who Don't know if you try to grab the flying lady in the front of the Rolls Royce is is it was spring loaded and disappeared with a very loud and sudden clunk which usually got your friends to jump back three or four feet or the little trap door that covered sir up and you'd never see her again? There's another interesting story to that that when we took over the spirit of ecstasy the mascot. It's on the front of the car. Oh over time. The mold had deteriorated. Got Worn out so we re engineered them and brought back all the detail but because of the way and the height is limited by the way by legislation and visibility lines that cannot be go because they were larger historically used to be larger And just not as large and can be I. I don't know if in the future. They will stay like that. But because the mechanism we had to retracted in the way it does an earlier. Spirit of ecstasy looking at it from the front. It's actually. She's slightly isometric. That one wing is a bit higher than the other and on the good ones. It's the other one because that gives them the clearance to go down for. Nobody will see that. Brilliant Rolls Royce vehicles. Come with so many surprising creative touches features and flourishes. We could discuss them for hours. But bill focused in on why those features were actually important. Who One of the things that you did at the time? You kind of redefined. The bespoke moment that your customers could have because you had a whole laundry list of the different choices that your customer could make and really feel like. They had a hand in the design of the car which was absolutely true. I think we've always said that. Virtually no rolls royces identical to the other one and the bespoke customers bespoke market is just blossomed since then and at the time around two thousand three was still fairly rare. In the meantime I would say almost every car that comes off the production line in Goodwood is a bespoke and this is exactly the Clinton once they want to have their car. It's certainly an opportunity. Lost not to take advantage of the fact that you could actually create a car to your specification. The whole notion of going in and buying a car off the rack like buying shirt off the rack is almost anathema. Would seem to me if you're in a position to buy a car like a Rolls Royce. Yes and interestingly talking Amo closed rack we introduce the idea of address code to identify each model and the Phantom limousine being the first one. Tell explain this little If you're trying to separate prey just with numbers and performance weights etc.. That doesn't always make a lot of sense to the people who are trying to get money from tobacco product even the board if you thought presenting it it has a dress code and you show people in a smoking in a sports jacket in the business foods you start to understand where the products aimed at and in terms of Rolls Royce. This was extremely important. The first time it's been used within a design project in BMW was a process that we call phase zero phase. Zero was something that had been in use in design works in dealing with non automotive customers how they define and start to create a context the basis for a project. It's it's used more widely. I think an architecture face steroids Process step basically before you dive deep into the project to who develop for the team and all stakeholders deeper understanding. What's the project actually? What kind of challenges? The project has not. What's a project by itself but what challenges existing for the future service? You want to design for the future Kai you onto design for the future. Joe Consumer product depends gave you a better sense of what you should design going. I yeah basically. It's simply spoken. You have to figure out what what kind of questions we need to ask to find the right answers to come up with a better enhanced consumer experience at the end in you must have had to functionally finally inspire the people that you had on your team to accomplish the kind of designs that you came out with in two thousand three not a big stepping-stone in achieving that was having people from very different backgrounds. We could draw people from designed works the Rogue Studios Landrover Studios in the UK. Bring them together for this experience in the London studio and simply look under every stone possible. Had something to do with Rolls Royce. And it's pass as much to understand mistakes as successes is without getting you to do a forensic analysis on your phantom designed. Can you briefly. Explain how it does indeed relate to or creatively pay respects to its predecessors predecessors in terms of proportions and and the gestalt of the of the form because we don't use that term and Rolls Royce apart. Pardon me I I would relate this let. Let's say that the light was sean our marble heads when we paid a visit to the world renowned Rolls Royce stores would down in the south swing. Lund's they had recently had a spitfire as an aircraft south a little triumph not little triumph because they rebuild Spitfire engines as well and they had won an in. Their showroom had a spitfire in their showroom the size of a king size bed it is an we very cautiously Contact them awesome if we could come down and have visit see what they did. That is quite literally where I think the the learning curve came on course and we started understand what Rolls Royce was about and it was it was just tremendous. It was like a switching on the lights. Which after all that Rolls Royce conversation? We're GONNA come back and talk about design works in Southern California and some of the work that Verana she did when she was at the helm sometimes the exceptional is not the biggest budget. Sometimes the exceptional is someone's ability to actually take their soul and printed on the screen for a moment. Learn everything that there is to know about the filmmaking process. I think part of art is hearing from the artists who create it in the number of different visions a number of different qualifications. That have to go into making any film is insurmountable and hearing those stories can be just as exciting insightful. As the navy's themselves certain movies or certain scores certain actors have shaped who I am as a person have such appreciation for the things that people produce and the work because into whether it's the writer who came up with the story in general or how the filmmakers were able to take that from the age and put it onto screen then from the actors themselves who were able to kind of bring that all to life. That is what I wanna hear because it makes me love my favorite movies even more. I'm Scott to law. If you love movies like I do. You're going to love Hollywood unscripted. Wherever you get your podcasts asks? Welcome back for as former president of BMW design works in having filled that role for some time. I think he started in two thousand four. That was quite a tenure in your and you did a lot of important things when you were there what would you call design works. How would you characterize overall about call it? It's a strategic design consultancy uncertainty working or producing creative intelligence really in the field off creative concepts and conceptual design but it's not limited to the work for BMW Liam W BMW Group had acquired design works twenty five years ago but at the charming thing of that studio or the company. It's actually a company of off about one hundred and fifteen people in three locations. Headquartered in Newburgh populace entered the studio and Shanghai Studio and Munich so but design works. The charming aspect is working across the industry working for outside. BMW CLIENTS AND WHY IS SET head to help customers as a client to find a better position in the marketplace through creative consulting the for instance. I'm a manufacturer manufacturer of consumer products. And I WANNA create the next great all in one exercise machine I might engage design works to undertake a project like that provided I had the resources just to afford them or conversely if I were an equipment manufacturers heavy equipment I wanted to build a new backhoe I might come to you to explore. How something like that might be done on the even if I were say the mothership? BMW come to you. Because I want to explore the next generation of electric vehicle. I might come to you too. Because you're thinking out of the box walks. Is that fair. Yeah definitely and out of the box is just one also walks rewards but it means a lot when you work in your. Let's say mothership Russia Home Studio. I don't want to say you get stuck you but you have to when you want to develop an understanding of future or what your customers in the next five ten years desire of would like to have in there. 'cause at least you have to look out of the window and go beyond your daily work and have to observe what is out also what is going to change and untypical what kind of impact at might have but when I say also box designed works. It's actually lived the work into the future on a daily basis maybe shorter term for consumer industry or fast moving. Consumer goods are very long-term. Lead time for the aircraft craft industry value. Maybe work ten years ahead. Twenty s ahead or even thirty s ahead so these are really long-range visions you have to put on a couple of pairs of glasses. You go to work you put on the short range classes you go to work you also put on the long range glasses. Look into a crystal ball that might as you say talk decades in the future. I I know that An automotive design. It's a little shorter timeframe these days but clearly when you were talking about say developing electric vehicles that was longer game implant you and I have also talked about designing context. Can you address that. What does that really mean? It's a term which had been heavily used or is of great importance in the architecture. When you plan and you building site let's say in Manhattan and you start designing the new building which Hopefully as a new landmark you have to consider what what is the rounded and how long will that environment last around this new building and then when you take this term To consumer landscape you want to have an understanding what is the landscape. Maybe in ten years ahead in in particular with the whole whole digital transformation we are going through What is the consumer doing in these days? Maybe ten years ahead. How's how's consumer? Are the Future Tribune. W driver spending the time during day. How much time will he sit in the car? How much time will he use the car? So it really goes goes beyond the product here designing and insisting the lifestyle and the physical surroundings and the social underpinnings of a product. And how it's going to live in a society plus as a designer designer we should unanticipated. What is a good solution for our future consumers and pulling off future clients to basically give them a better world world not to make the world or their daily life more complicated through more product sometimes designing means also cutting products and just improves the service or simplify simplify a product? Because we want that people live longer live. Better live fair to talk about anticipation time aspect of time. Uh Element of time in designing developing new concepts products is of essence and action. Today's processes tend to eliminate time which is a disaster. Uh when you have an agency designed works detached for mothership. There's a chance to win more time. Because they have a different take on things they are under quite quite the same pressures and the fact that they use this thing is phase zero. This contextual driven phase will project which did not exist within Munich for a new a product. Like the Rolls Royce was absolutely essential. That was a learning curve. We were exposed to things that we'd never dreamt of and you can very easily become used to paradise in certain design challenge is living in California gives you opportunities that don't exist anywhere else. That's spy the reasons. This design works where it is and one of them for example is light and color. And if you don't go to the lengths of examining happening what happens and what sort of materials you can use in this environment you ignoring an ACO sleep big market for a lot of these products. Here's another category you do. You are mentioning. Here's your diving. Deeper into Y California and California is still very inspirational place for designers designers creative people and new technology as we know. Why is this? It's easier to disrupt products because society is much more forgiving forgiving. It's much more more open and maybe it has to do with the climate because it's and sometimes an easier life here in California. I'm just curious. Did you guys operate great in a vacuum or did you do a lot of consumer testing when you're developing both mentally evacuate mentally detached but consumer testing that you're on site citing you just see things and you have access to opportunities to assessment that don't exist anywhere else consumer testing can be done in various facets designer. China naturally absorbs his neighbor at a table in a restaurant or When you go shopping you see what people how they behave at the cashier And so on so that just a a different aspect of consumer testing. Because you have to take this into account in your new product development then you can do this. Let's let's say algorithm driven consumer testing where you want to create some data matere which is definitely helpful by that is mostly done with the help of consumer tasting groups or marketing groups but not necessarily alone by designers or let me describe it this way. Consumer testing is quality driven Bringing facts maybe even just to see if your user interface is working if you're designing a toaster is operated it's more like taking taking into account. What is the emotional? Quality of the product of the product into action is a person happy with that or is he struggling. Does it take too along do I do. We need to improve this process. A lot of things happened at design. Works that certainly were forward thinking and getting back to the whole notion of electric transportation. Asian you were instrumental in spearheading some very very important designs that subsequently came to market now of course electric cars are all the talk of the town but back when on the ice three and subsequently development of the BMW I eight came around those were really revolutionary things. Can you talk about how those happened. Yeah a long time I'm ago. BMW also used design works to kick off the project Tier in California because mobility is so essential to everybody who lives in southern California. No one can live without a car. Mass transportation is somehow not so well developed. I would like to say so. That was very nice interview so anyway people depend on car and if you see the limit of our fossil energies and so on on so it's a it's the right place to develop the new types of mobility here in southern California at least to kick it off and that's what we have done many many years ago and it was not let me. It was a team effort to starts project. I'll before it went back into the mothership in Germany. The I eight is without a doubt Robert. I think you'd agree. Read the sexiest hybrid car in the market. Well it's a beautiful thing I remember joining the BMW team for the initial launch of that car and driving them from Santa Monica through the hills isn't it was quite a head-turner and also a very gratifying car to drive and really truly look like a spaceship that had come from another planet. Quite a thing and still turns my head when I see one on the road the I three was remarkable little thing and probably never really got its due. I suspect in large part because it's more expensive automobile then. One imagines a so-called transportation pod to be but a beautifully wrought thing as it turned out. Are you involved in some new electric or hybrid style. Cars going forward consulting business. What I'm doing now since I have retired from the corporate industry because I wanted to spend some more time chime in my life to work completely independently and really bring to the table? My very personal point of view not framed by being branded so to speak. I'm being very politically correct. Yes of course. I'm involved in some of the newer developments for other companies. And that's very charming aspect. I also what was very interesting enterprise or at Ventura in my life. I worked for a few years for an Indian car company Autobahn Motors so remotely from Germany. And then trolling into India. And that gave me another time Much more learning how to food drive future development forward and to work with teams who live in a completely different context. And I'm curious does your group or has is your group worked with any of these companies that are introducing the scooters and bicycles here in California that you basically just pass your iphone over A. I don't know what design works at. The moment is working on but in the past during the project I which had taken place I would say. Nearly ten ten years the new more than ten years ago there was always a dream or the vision of seamless mobility and seamless mobility also included a seamless information flow of all all the devices. You you have with you. And then seamless mobility and scooter had a very important aspect in the whole mobility setup. Let's say for the last mile you're driven maybe autonomously or was your electric vehicle or hybrid vehicle and then get home. You used you scooter. So very early on. It was part of the conversation development interesting and the part of the development as you go forward with design projects objects you have to take into account how the consumer treats some of the products that you're designing. Sometimes these things have to be like a tank to withstand the kind of consumer interaction that they're likely to get. Does that a big part of how you look at things. Yeah right from the beginning and we always did and do very in depth studies how consumer is treating and living the product. How actually how the twenty four seven lifestyle is and then we see and take into account what is necessary? What are the requirements? What is the product brief then in also the development development of sturdiness durability sustainability to fight the design that you would like a product to have of course but then you try to find a way and balancing all these factors out and usually the team? The team leader has a vision. What is hopefully for Likud for the consumer and when it's also good for the client your consulting to thank you to Cameron and Green Aclu's for joining us on cars that matter to talk about time? Directing Design Rolls Royce design. Works come back next week where they join us to talk about current direction of automotive design. They look back on. Its history and talk about the future of cars that matter this episode of cars. The matter was hosted Robert Rawson. Bill Curtis produced by Chris. Porter sound engineering by Michael Kennedy theme song by Celeste. Eric Dick Recorded Kirk owes Malibu podcast studios studios additional music and sound by Chris Porter. Today's guests were Ian Cameron and Verena Kloos tune into cars matter. Wherever you rev up your podcasts? I'm Robert Ross. Thanks for listening Kurt comb media media for your mind.

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Ep. 33: Screech! BMW at my Door

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Ep. 33: Screech! BMW at my Door

"Welcome back to drive with us and feels like it's been forever. Yeah as a super super long week but I feel like it's been like a month since we've done this even though it's only been a week. Good Yeah did you miss us. We missed you okay. We'll be all had a good volley and Halloween. 'cause that's just happened. Yes if you were to participate in Halloween because you know growing up in the household we weren't allowed to celebrate American holidays. 'cause you know you're not like make your Indian American. Yeah so like even though now I you're not only foreigner. Parents like laying their kids participant. All this stuff but like we we. We don't celebrate so why I know that's my one question. I always trying to ask people. As was the reason. Halloween celebrated but nobody knows just address opening a candy. I guess I know nobody thinks guess again. Same thing with Christmas people are like. Oh we're just for the gifts like but does he. That one has a significance significance. And I kinda understand that significance but like I feel like less people. People know that one though but they only are in it for the yes but nobody seems seems to know Halloween like why I know and every time I ask every person I've asked like person has given me an answer a long time time ago. It was some guy I think who used to either work. They do like minor work here. There for one of our rental properties he gave it like a full on explanation really but I was GonNa say do tell I'd like to be in like I think it was something I don't remember the whole story. He told me but I think it was something along the lines ends of. He said that they used to dress up scary people because it was a way to like if you use yeah to scare other spirits and stuff to like the. US like them to. I don't know something but now Halloween address data dress up as something and get candy like that. That's the point that was very random but maybe it was one of the spot will dress up as if you were allowed or had happy opportunity to dress up for Halloween. What would you just not as either the scariest thing of all an adult with lots? The problems stresses eggs and lines go by myself like that and I was like. Oh Yeah. I'm the scariest thing of all. I'm an adult with lots of like tensions. I shouldn't have done that my hollow. I was Gonna ask me like what. Are you dresses and adult. Oh my God. That's the scariest thing of all you. You Win you win all the contest. Is One person. Use it as an excuse to wear his pajamas to work. So it's like a onesie but have like a skeleton galaxy on it so skeleton. Yeah I just want an excuse to wear pajamas an adult ones. The Oh gosh what we came into one. That's just weird awesome. Okay Yeah No. My work had This little kid party things like everyone brought their kids so all of a sudden I like I knew it was happening within like that day. I forgot that it was happening at that time and then goes three with all. Listen I just hear little kids screaming. And unlike where their kids were in an office building like what is going on and it was on our floor so not a playground during all that and then all also on kids running down the hallway past my office and I'm like somebody lost their kids. I'll be getting past the security badges and like over here then. I saw them all dressed up like oh yeah. Today's awfully party thanks. They were all little kids. They're so cute so it was adorable but at the same time like Whoa. Oh yeah that was interesting. Would you have ever wanted to would you. If you have the opportunity when you're younger go trick or treating. Would you have wanted to. Yeah we did like presell like a whole parade. Yes we did. I had this creepy Barbie mask. Gosh we're going through. Old aloes. Follows look like a horror movie. I'm coming at you like you're like hair. That was all like the mask creepy like. When did we think that was okay and I I remember? I couldn't really breathe because like the low notes holder like so tiny. The time is also making asks picture because this is also making the creepy noises on like couldn't breathe through. It probably probably making noises. Also so they like adding to the fact Barbie. Okay no no stay L. During my kindergarten parade. I think it was the butterfly because I had the wing. Yes and I wasn't drain Barbie. What with the mask and all the dresses so simple and like oh innocent? Look like Oh look at buffets like Oh my Mike Scott what is Barbie those creepy. But yeah so I did that. I don't think I would enjoy going to strangers houses but Gandhi okay with all the scary stuff happening with people leasing. Candies are like putting stuff and Ken. Did you hear about the recent send one. Actually there's whole like argument going on like you shouldn't be vaccinated and people are against is therefore so. There's one person was putting chickenpox Kim pox into what candy. We're getting chicken pox injecting. Listen to camp like in the news and saying like how she likes somehow somehow like to spread it or I don't know I don't know if she was like anti vaccination I think in anti vaccinations which is give everyone chicken. Yeah something like that. That makes no sense at all. So technically you're telling everyone ha ha chickenpox I'm giving you shingles later on in your life. You're welcome welcome. Why no foul was? It's scary nowadays nowadays. You don't want your kids to eat the candy or do you just want them to go for the fun. Then it's like you can't have have I wouldn't feel so that's why I feel like like of work. Has Those Kinda parties I feel. I feel like that would be safe. Your kids going and dislike. You know like Pena in a very safe environment but like. I don't think that it's safe famous Gandhi from. I don't trust all these crazy. Do you think having like how do people still feel safe going on their neighborhoods at. I feel like there was a point where people stop for a little bit slow and now it's like picking back up but they started doing thing it really early to and just like all right like four o'clock all right everyone go. Yeah now. It's like it's going back up but it's it's still scary. I didn't see like how many things happened on Halloween. Oh there's a lot of shootings in Baltimore like six. What's new like people went trick or treating and they were like innocent? People were shot in the midst of gang violence going trick or treating and wasn't intended to be them. They just know crossfire. Yeah I mean I first off. Why do you feel safe in Baltimore going trigger treaty? Have you not heard Baltimore's like one of the most dangerous cities in the country. Like what are you doing this on your WanNa go there for anything and we live so close when it's like when people are like. Oh let's go the harbor and I'm like do you realize the harbor is pleased that people go to get mugged like a groups of kids have been attacking people that go to the harbour and as a side note this is is like I just looked at that big collage of photos that I gave you for your birthday. And I see the creepy Barbie. It's all the laterite autorite wonderfully creepy Barbie phone collide. I made of all the pictures cheers of me. And you over the years. And there's creepy Barbie voted. I went through to get all those pictures so I already have this one saved commits and yeah okay. All these sweet little are holding hands like little sundresses and like you know the hat flower for has and balloons on our heads and then creepy and the corner. Oh my guys who look. Here's the guy. Just a butterfly her. Uh You can't see my face you don't like you're picturing taken anyway. That's my gosh. There you go figured it out the you're more than happy to have a mask because you're like you don't have to see what I'm doing behind the smile because you didn't like smiling. I make the noise that the dude in. Hey Arnold does boy gets punched by Helga Pataki. Yeah oppose that Victor. Because you gotTA show what you're talking about. Yeah Creepy Barbie I. I mean I guess. It goes with a Halloween theme right. What being very I thought you meant like we had a theme going on Halloween scary stuff. Yeah except one. It's going to be after Halloween. Yeah well that's where all the great sales are so he can't we wanted to go. Get that Florio Oreo was it. Were you chocolate chip. You said Oreo. I didn't know where the Orioles being sold. I know target with selling the chocolate chip one on like instead of gingerbread house chocolate chip like how. Yeah so we were trying to go look for the sales after Halloween but there was none. So Oh dr knew what I saw. That was a couple in stock. It was near work. I didn't check our local one tar Jay so expensive to go there first of all. Yeah the people that came out two or three bags in. That was our shopping as I spent. Fifty Bucks Yeah. I was like you realize onto Walmart. Gotten like double the groceries for that amount and like there's way more selection options targets like literally. I feel like this is what I told you like. It feels like like when you go to other countries and it was like barely Nashville. Like you know this is what you have. And that's all you can choose from. And then America like millions of the same option like cereal the entire Rabi two rows of cereal so that's like Walmart is true like that's America. The target is like no. We're trying to be like others very little very expensive hate target. They're like target. Yeah because a Walmart in that city is not the best but still even if we had both are walnut is really nice and the prices are way better. Oh I can understand from that but for that the reason people will go to target but a lot of people drive to the next town and go to the Nice Walmart. So that's true we every all the neighboring towns and city city like close by like Louis comes to art because it's he's not even considered artist because what is what is how Alarcon does not have anything so yeah. It's a Nice Walmart. Yeah Pro Walmart. What a you or your team Walmart target only this Walmart this establishment right here? Are you this team Walmart. Only this superlaw Martine Lahmar. You're actually super walmarts or one of the better because they tend to be in locations where it's super sweet. You know. Take us on the also in the news. Our local news. The one won't with a Westminster Walmart is the one that's not great. There was a whole bunch of like Assault daily harmful activity that parking lot and I was like yeah. What's new that guy so happens? All the time I know aren't muggings. At one time I was coming home from work and it was right before we were going on our flight to Australia. And we needed something real quick. And I'm I'm like there's I have no time to make it across to the next task. Our House and are all my hat to stop at the Westminster One and I was so and I had a brother all their weather. I know that's where the rate if you WANNA free stereo system we're like no we gotta get in and out and like we're not stop conversing with these offer anyone they go go and the thing is we never go and now and so. They're sat up is different so I couldn't originally used to be before our became Super Super Walmart too so it's like we had to figure out where we go back into old rent Haliti of like how do they used to be set up. Yeah so I couldn't find the one thing thing we need took a long. I feel like I just went to the made. It unlike felt safe in got in and out. Yeah we're already running late so all we you've heard this one like if you have not go listen to our Australia. Episode thing is all the crazy went down even loudly got to leave work earlier than I wanted to like. was planning to leave. But then I brother took much longer to leave school. So there's no point of me leaving. Yeah so goals into the episode of our Australia. Ed Mr earlier Austrailia adventure. Because it wasn't really Australia Australia. or it was a weird surreal experience USTRALIA. He wasn't dream. Yeah that's why we went to Australia. We didn't go to Australia like the continent like we went to some other place but yeah that was a very interesting adventure. Almost missed every single flight so yeah go listen to that episode and Yeah check out. That's that's all I can say. Just keep repeating goal is to go. Listen Taylor waiting. Listen to Paul's is go. Listen to here. Yeah so are you back. How was it I know crazy right? Yeah has anything like that ever happened to you. Oh but that was the very intense throwing crazy this whole week in terms of my commute and my car crazy has been The most craziest week ever like I've never had so many bad like events happen every day this week. I had something happen and it was not fun. It was eventful in not fun way to yeah. This was very but story number one. I have lost. Got This number of them now. Because there's yes so this. This first story is from last week. Actually so it Kinda started up midway last week into this week my whole like one and and a half week has the story has been like filled with events that I don't I want your wish upon my enemy situations nations but not that I have any if I have. Yeah I don't wish is upon you. Yeah Story Number One. I feel like one of those people who are like no more number boy. So I've told this one to you in person because it's been usually my stories end up telling to you on the podcast because we barely have any time but we've had a good span of time this to me and snap. It was able to actually tell you this beforehand but I'm telling you it again so free feel free. I feel feel free to kill switch on. Yeah aw aw number one we start. It's like when you're ranking like the top five top five stories of the week number one top no like worst stories over week and I don't even know if it was five or more than five but feel free to your commentary and no I wasn't something like repeat the commentary that the comments you made beforehand like I remember free feel alright. I'll free feel so so. Do your are your pajamas are very okay if I can speak and coherently coherently yes I mean you're already doing that. Good job keep going speak without jumbling. Up My words so you can actually understand the story. Yup I'm not going to get like twisted number one. Yes get to it right so this is a gas station story again. I mean we spend a lot of our time. uh-huh yeah yeah same gas station. Same people not the same us the same literally one make Mike. We're not the same person where to yes. We are but they think we're literally the same person that comes in. Even though I think they would have figured it out by now. Yeah think so. I've encountered the most rudas woman. She is something else I feel like I said that wrong but I said it right I don't know. She just hates her job but what I first started going there before you started going there like she was not like this but then this this time I went in and all of this going on and she hates her life or her job or something I I it was last Tuesday. Okay so not this week. This is the previous week story. Then I'll get into this week's event but it was on a Tuesday. I think it was raining and two are the worst when it comes to traffic place so the gas on Tuesdays was already running a little late because alarm running a little late because the night before our brother didn't let me sleep so I already had a slow start my day like Super Tie. When I woke up I was like extra sluggish getting ready for work so it was like a slaw because he kept like I would lay in batting get comfortable and he kept opening the door like he slowly opening? Just stand there so you'll you'll is presence like he. What is anything? I guess he was waiting for me to locate. Okay Him and I'm like I didn't want to open my eyes. Only talk right yeah. He's like filling out applications at the middle of the night. And 'cause that's the best time I was like I I have a question I need your help and I. I'm sleeping Ed out tomorrow. And then he's like nope was the deadline. This and that is then he asked me. I'm like okay asking the questions like no I have to show you. Oh my God but he like ask question. I just told it to him and he went back and then he came back and then slowly door just today again now. I like really comfortable again. And this repeated. He does like three or four times before he's like I need you to come look at the computer so I was like twenty glasses is a yeah you to read the screen. Planning a looking at. He'll sit next to him and he just keep talking and answering questions like didn't you just need me to be there next. Time and answers questions is pretty much fill out the application for him so I went into sleep an hour and a half later my bedtime. Yeah because we have bad times. We're adults I'm old. I'm a grandma when it comes bedtime. We are adults literally. Nearly as soon as nine o'clock comes around. I'm already ready to for getting ready for my ten o'clock on just like like slowly buys like you're getting you're going to sleep at like eight and nine o'clock this Levy. Yeah then I finally get back in bed and like I get uncomfortable. And then he walks in and he's like well since you already awake now. I'm going to get my stuff ready for. This is so yeah I woke up very tired and and so I was already super super out of it when we went to the gas station and a one and gave gas gas. I give you gave them. Yes I you're getting the free money by ninety like paying for not even pumping the asthma about to drive away. And now you're just giving them your house gas for your gusting to my car. I don't don't need it. I want to give them cash for the Yes. Okay and I got this guy who like I haven't seen him before or was like the first I have ever seen him. Okay so I gave it to him first and he was all like nice and friendly and have a good day and because he doesn't know that what you won't be back so usually I don't go back and then I wasn't quite at quarter tank this time so I had a little more gas unusual so I didn't get the full and it went to eighteen dollars in something so I went to go pumping but I was so tired. That went one sent over and also frustrated like Niger. It's raining and I'm like at the F.. Do things so like if I walk passing side on my car to go get my purse. I'm Jay Hind the car I did but I'm like in my passenger side door and like together through so I'm like I see the penny in my wallet right. D- reach him with my finger and I try to grab it but the penny Away and I keep picking out a different coin. A dime a nickel another dime like I can't get a penny. Just grab all of and you get a penny someone so frustrated and I know then I just dipped in their the whole like now pile pick let me put it in everything up and then like I go back in to go changing. The guy is busy and so the ladies like looks at me and then she's like the goes like a weird look like all she back for changes which I never usually go invest to you. Who Goes I always end up pumping twenty dollars a ended up going at the right so I like had this penny? She already has a the thing open and pulling unlike but I have a penny. And she's like well. I already got it for you. And she liked put it in there. My thing is they never seem to hear us. I learned young. I Have I already got you covered like I don't need your penny. It's like but I'm giving you penny. And then she was like she made this comment under her breath kind of but not like super quiet loud enough for me here and she was like how did she say. Oh I knew you were coming in for change. You never ever put the whole twenty like the way she said it like Wrong person thank you and I was like thanks but like thank hold on I did. I'm like but that's my sister. WHO COMES HERE I? It's not me. You're mixing us up. And she had no response but like first of all was about money. I'm giving you my money to pump gas and I didn't put the whole thing when you spend money and you don't spend the whole twenty eight dollar bill. Don't do on your change back. I know it's like That's your money. Your this is your job. I do your job. What the heck when I went to bomb gas recently this past week it was at lady I I? It was a younger dude so I gave him the money to pump and came back. Washington was her both times so I gave her the money and twenty on because I always get twenty and then so I told her and then she wasn't like an okay move. You know not angry passive aggressive whatever moves usually and so I went and pump gas and I came back. I had changed because I if it's under fifty cents whereas L. or something like strange like if a seventy five. I'll give three quarters as any weird like sixty three or whatever. I was just the difference. But if it's under fifty I'll usually give them change so I can get another dollar so it was under under fifty. I think it was fifty so then I gave two quarters I went in. I had two quarters and I was like holding them out and she already started. She wasn't even look at me. She put openness. You start getting to change and I'm like I have changed. And then she said to the dude the boy because he was like when she says twenty she never means it And then he was laughing like ha ha. I know kind of like awkward like okay And then you and then I like I have changed and then she was like and she does this too and she takes she gives me a dollar. I'm like I'm trying to get rid of my changed. I want the dollar bill. Give me the dollar bill. What is your problem? First of all you want me to do it myself. I right how much gas was GONNA go in my car. I would give you that much money in the first place but if you keep changing your prices I cut my house. It wasn't exactly how much is GonNa go in my problem. Otherwise why would I waste my time to make a second trip and then yeah so like I never know that it's GonNa take fifteen dollars and twenty three cents or something. I don't WanNa give okay sixteen dollars and then come back for ten cents. I'd rather give twenty and come back for like four dollars is is that any constantly like a Walmart dollar a one dollars off full yet I just give a twenty and then it used to be twenty because my the ATM of the Bank. I went to who only gave twenties. So that's why gay twenties but now it's like it's easy to give it twenty and then whatever the difference is given to me like I remember a couple years ago I I would always take out thirty dollars for gas in cash and now I'm at but we just need twenty which makes me feel like Yes to get thirty dollars news. Yeah I I like I was recently. I had to gas and I was like I can push it to like closer to work out and they were lower price ought it can make it. I haven't been in there for two weeks but I have to go Monday so see. I had to get gas Monday. But I'm GONNA try and pushing go to work because they're around the same price if you I know I I think I might push closer because I think I might make it there and I don't remember the price but I feel like it's the same but if we both ended up going off my facade try not to. I know because I'm just GONNA push it and go to work and then it will take my full twenty. Yes down there because at that gas stations all is a cash only so that's the cheapest one out of the whole area and that because I will be closer to quarter tank of that point point is gonNA my car will fill up in more than twenty dollars so twenty the whole thing so I should be good. Yeah hopefully YEP thing with the gas station near my work. There's there's an Indian guy. There's two Indian guys that I've seen recently. The one never understands that I want to put twenty five dollars twenty dollars on pump. Whatever ever right and he's like five and I'm like four increments of five please? Every time I go. He's in there and I have to go there and I gave him twenty. He thinks they say five the dollar bill and be like the whole thing in the bill like this on pump like four all the whole. What do people come here knowing if you five dollars L. is for? Yeah like who who does that. That's not gonNA fill up anything unless you're feeling like those little tiny things or maybe just three quarters and fill up again like halftime halftime but three-quarter five dollar increments. I only have five dollars. Gas Bare minimum are is a low income income area. The town gase is so maybe I like twenty dollars on the. I like enunciate so so. Try to say so loud right and he has five. My problem is whenever go into that gas station that we always go. We both go to is. I had to literally like nobody. Nobody hears me when I say I have changed and I stick my hand. I'll be like you take the and then like I'm like it's not my they fall on standing against telling you change and then they get the start pulling out the change. I'm like they look like about the handover. I'm like that's all fine and Dandy but would you just give yourself extra work. I'm like I had changed. I'd like another extra dollar. And then they take the change. Give me an extra dollars. Wasted double the time counting that I have to tell you when you they just talk mine and they give me another dollar. I lead that other older dude backwards. Because he knew I was she left. I think you I think you left to. But like he okay. So he didn't always wiz. I don't think he remembered it either but he will be like I have changed. You look out you have changed. Just take another dollar. Everyone else's ignores me. Can you right here me. Like I like. When he he would joke to about only but he was nice looking in the way he said it was like joking? Way The way okay. This lady said it or jokes. Come off as I don't think he was. Joking is her face expression and just her attitude. I thought like like well. Yeah I was already running late on like deal with you and get out here because I am already running late to work Tuesday raining on top of that. You had to be the cheapest gas station in this area to be working out yeah. I don't mind that gas station. Being the type of someone. Is the person working weird about the one gas station. Closer to my work. Thus a cash only one that I went to wants is that it's three pumps but they're all connected one long you know like sometimes there's two in a row this almost three all connected so they're literally really close to each other like back to back to back so if one person's in the middle person the front back had to be like out like not fully at their pump in order to actually get into the for everyone to fit so mike how three rows of them all jam packed next to each other. So it's like you're literally stock behind the two cars in front Arnaud you if you're trying to get because you can't even like squeeze next them because the next row of pumps is right there so you're literally like if you're in the Middle House because there's only casually they can't afford to like it's also what this weird Paul Intersection it's like point of an intersection. where the roads kind of kind kind of wide type looking shape? So it's like right in the corner so there's not much real estate but still it's like this. Is this a scary but while we spat like a good twenty minutes logging about this your lives. I mean this gas station this lady and this is my life not gas station. I know you live their visit. Once we you literally every other day but now their prices up to about the same so I will. Oh now push it. But then they'll ran them. They randomly pick it up and then they go back down. You're like I am Hassett. Yeah until all my way home so I won't know I know I'm I'm just saying it just random kinds of peaks and then it just goes back. Yeah for so. I hope that this casually gas station does not pick it up Monday the morning. Because I'm going there so coming. Don't pick it up. Don't make me regret giving you business but yeah I do I guess it. It was nice though because they don't see you. All the time are hating me. They see me all the time now. I went to seven eleven every time for my other job and they were super nice. Lady girl tried giving me free money but it gave. Can we frequently asked. I know that I'll give it back to you the next time I come back to guest backing you're registered as well. Yeah that will story number one on number one all right number two so the second one was scary but I survived a near rear end accident. Now my gosh and this also happened. I think this happened towards the end of last week of that week. Two weeks ago because last week was Hoban or this past week the last week the week before last week the week before this past week weeks ago. Why are we making this work? I Know No. It doesn't sound like he came out right. Like I feel like I am not describing the right week but yeah this is the end of that week and I was coming coming home. It was that area is fifty to fifty five. I think miles. I think it's fifty but people drive fifty five ish around that uh-huh speed because you know people that are five above. Whatever so what happened? I was it was two lanes then came to emerge point and then I was going I ended ended up to where I could merge in front of this truck this pickup truck but he kept like hitting the gas slowing Baheen Aghast catos people like either gophers. You will slow like he wanted to get in front of me but then he was like others carton front me but then so I'm like all right I just let go of the gas and just stop normally go behind you emerged behind you and the BMW behind me like stopped a distant enough like he's like go ahead get in front of me like I guess he saw this whole like like yeah. Let's after that I'm so like the people behind like just get so out obviously at the merge points where always like slow because everyone's trying to get singling clean road single lane still delay here good. I don't know why it sounded wrong. But that after the point we started picking US beaten up to the speed speed limit Iran. I think we're fifty five and all of a sudden the truck in front of me slams on his brakes like no warning like. How did he not notice the cars in my truck your car so you honestly couldn't see I think about the yeah? Yeah and he just slams on his brakes but I just like I had had this little bit of feeling like so I had the time we should be slowing down. I had a distance to where I was able to stop but like it wasn't like a smooth like slow. Oh come it wasn't like a brief stop either. Where all of a sudden I stopped but was telling him hit the hit a little hard but it wasn't like full-on on like stop right there and then spot hit a little harder and slowly came to a stop behind this truck and the BMW behind me? I guess he was able to react. Not Too yeah. Because he wasn't all my bumper anything and then all of a sudden I hear the screech at BMW. Car is next to my driver's door. Roy and I'm like I my going first thing came to my mind was like person having road rage from Legua me cutting like getting it let you in. Yeah I was like well. What if he would just like fine? Let her so. Let me give you a piece of my. Gosh Gosh is he like Matt and then I was like Oh is. He tried to go around me because I got in front of him. Because I've had that happen before where someone's like what not because I got in front of it. But they were just like so impatient one car in front bigger car hopping around me and then ended up right in front of me. Yeah I don't understand that so I thought oh like okay. This person's person's doing that so I'm like I'll let you. And so he likes slowly came in front of me right in between the truck and me and then I saw his rear bumper right side. A bumper was smashed. All say you weren't angry. Oh that just happened. I didn't hear the crash noise. We heard the screech. Yeah Yeah screech coverage heard that like that saw him all of a sudden rain next to me and then he like slowly got in front of me in the moved to the shoulder her because he needs to get over and then I looked in my rear view mirror and saw this grey sporty car whose passenger side front bumper now driver's driver's side was smashed. And I was like. Oh Day tried to last-second move over. Hit their right. Thank God like He. You had the ability to react where he was able to avoid hitting me otherwise he would record accident that and he would've sandwiched between. Yeah he had way more damage. Damn Yeah but this guy and that part would have been his fall lie. Yeah so he saved great reaction time goes to you he. He had the like. I would not have that reaction time. Like swerved to the left there but he. There's it's not like there was like a wwl. Allies was able to go into that. Yeah maybe kind of side like as it was right about to happen. So he's like oh no and then not it only hit the side and then the person behind them probably realize I can try to move over to the shoulder but did it make a fast in the. Maybe they both kind of like the same collect like like then. They moved parted ways. Yeah but God which reminds me. Because I've I've seen someone who last minute realize there was a car stopped in the road because they had their labyrinth current Zohar that they've bounced off the railroad railroad. How do you off of a railway real guard? Hard Lily White Front hit turn back. It turns save Dave this car bouncing off of this and the truck that I've told the story so in turn like no you guys incoming trump and you better watch out. We are already slowed are all of a sudden coming to a stop for some reason which nope I'm going. So there was a gap enough for him. Turn turn just gone straight. I'm like I'll make a u-turn somewhere but the car made it a round. hit the front of him. I'm like the painful. Probably guess where he was going to spin hit him because we're car literally was like bouncing off this scene so scary. I'm glad I was looking at the car. Why didn't look like it has had as much damage but the railing? The rail guard had like paint scrape off and it was dented. Oh my gosh. Yeah Yeah things happen on the road. That was so scary. I was going. I was like going home from work. And you don't like tired and almost awesome Hewitt. Let's just see this car yes to me and I was like why didn't go ahead. So what kind of accident happened last Friday that I was stuck in like alerted me three hours to get to work and so it may seem like crazy but normally takes me too so told me an extra hour to get to work which is still bad but like I don't know what I didn't even get to the point where I could see where the accident happened where literally stopped for so long and is the weird thing was i. I got gas at morning. Good thing I got in the morning. 'cause I wouldn't have had Thai afterwards. I got gas and another was leaving the gas station. I'm like I could either turn left and go that way or I could turn right and take the normal route that I take to work and I had this feeling I know I should go left and take this way today but it was was like I was literally even about to turn left ails clear about turn left in the last second. I look down on details like Oh the other way only says three minutes. Go back to my normal way. She'll be gone left. Listen to your gut I know and then like there's not many places for me to turn off this main road and still get to work so we I I was stuck in this driving for like at least half an hour felt like twenty minutes and then finally got to the one road I could turn down. I hate. This road is so bad but I'm like it's my only option so I turned down it and I get to are the road is and I've told this before when I first went down. This road has a sign that says flood area. I get to the road road. And I'm like slowing down. Then there's all these signs blocking says road closed high waters and I'm like Gosh Darn it. I'm like what do I do. And there's this truck behind me like one of the big farm trucks totally Carroll County seems like a big farm trucks big trucks truck. That like you know big supermarket big wheels on it just went anyways between the size of just kind of going like whatever scab going. I'm like I don't WanNa get stuck back there. Road is sketchy so then I kept going straight and I'm like me and my. GPS WILL RIS. Row if I keep going straight and then you know how initially when you miss a turn it is trying to get you to turn around and get back on the same route so like passing make a u-turn was like no no if I keep going you'll reroute that's fine. It's still trying to get me on this. And then it went even further kept driving a little bit and then it was like rear uh-huh and like this many feet make a u-turn like again this let me. I can't go straight so I felt like maybe it was a dead end or like a lot of the roses go to neighborhoods. And don't don't go anywhere until my Gosh darn it so turned into someone's driveway and I sat there for a while looking at GPS. Only I have to go back in so that I turned around and went back towards the accident and got back in line further than back with him where I was and then I sat there for another half hour and I'm like I'm sitting at work and she's text message saying still on the run. I'm like what like I just finished a whole bunch of work still sitting on have not and we we move like finally to the bottom of this hill and then there we were sitting there for so long of this one guy was pulled off onto the side of the road. And I'm like why is it like are are they trying to because people were making you so make some people were going onto the shoulder making a u-turn so I I stopped back like are you trying to turn around okay. Whatever but no melt like it was parked so like Oh what and I see this guy walking into the woods peeing like okay? This is weird sitting in this for too long. I like now. You know we've been here too long this guy's like I gotta go. Pee is morning coffee with him he drank the whole thing and then he's like I'm still at work. Yeah and then so that point. I'm like I'm like saying they're looking at Google maps and like all right it's time to atlas it old school so I'm like zooming on Lemass I'm like I'm GonNa make my own route. GPS Does Not WanNa tell me where to go so they always looking down that road. I originally turned down and made a u-turn on and I'm like it looks like it. Connect somewhere further down like he. It seemed like it went all back to the other way I could have gone which is really far away from this road. Pleasantly I will go all all the way over there west and coming on the way back and I'm like well at least I'll be moving so I'll Megara. Who knows how long this will take so? Then I'm like okay. I think I have a general route. GPS will help me once. I get down there so then I made a u-turn finally and they went back on the road and then it act. It took me forty minutes from there to get to work and it will actually connected but that route also led to a road that flood area and unlike Oh my God. Don't you be close to but this one looked more like flood happened. Water is now gone because there's all that like mall stuff in the road. This road road was even more sketchy than the other one. I'm like Oh my God. This reminds me of like when we went to Georgetown and those roads within the millionaire houses. It was like that all this stuff in the road. I'm like thank God I'm going twenty and then like trying to go fast but at the same time can't go fast so I'm like going. Forty twenty forty twenty like okay. We're GONNA make it to work on time. And they got blown. Study wins the race and then got stuck behind someone that was going so slow alot and I'm like no I wanna go forty makeup. Some dislike make twenty four twenty on my own terms like the speed was thirties. All Oh my God I can push you the forty like you know those safe speeding so I was like going like I just need to go from you. He has always like five about his Max. Another no file a is like Nashville like ten is absolute Max like five is. It's like comfortable with ten is like I'm late. Absolute Max worth at so. Yeah depending on the speed already going fast. All Go Georgia was like the door to you was even it will seventy eighty. You know I did I I I always stayed under. Eighty eighty eighty is aggressive like reckless driving. You almost at a time. When I realized that I was getting close Admi no no reckless driving driving for US backed up? I'm shy but yeah I got us there. Twelve twelve hours. I yes so that happened. I got to work an hour late and I had one of my message one of my coworkers and she has an email to everyone because it don't have email email connected to my phone yet and she originally told Lafontine twenty minutes late and I ended up getting there in our late and only this is. Why don't give a time after message? I'm like I should have gave a thing. We're not even moving if we're moving then I'm like Oh yes literally would just be like. There's an accident I'm going to be late like I wonder what a time limit on it. Yeah I know it was like that was bad and then one of my coworkers game I saw the email like is everything okay and I was like yeah and I told her and on how the road that I would've taken had floor was flooded and this was flooded. I'm like yeah like torrential downpour the day before I get did and I'm like did you guys not give rate so much like but that was in Montgomery County. I was closer to worse. I'm like you didn't get the Samory you know what's worse one. We live in like up and down area and we give Flyer elevation. Yeah no like Ireland is not flat like a lot of ups and downs announced and we get floods as like we get floods we off flooded. That's definitely the flatter lands are going to get flooded you will. Those roads are definitely not what's fly either. I guess that side of it is not i. Don't know but that was definitely. I think it was actually Howard County on the verge of Montgomery County any line so it was still very hilly hilly Yup Hillbilly you made it. I didn't want to say too late because has become so dark so fast. And you're a freeze warning and I'm like Oh we weren't and like because it just rained ranged in the middle of the road because it doesn't rain. I feel like if we had a freeze wearing. There's a higher chance of ice because there's water. Yeah I don't know what's going on because on the way home I saw a lot of deer and only God it's laid and okay so I don't know there was a freeze warning or what was going on but all my way home. I saw an accident that had just happened. I they realized that until I got on it that it was an accident like really close to it. It was in this construction zone. All of a sudden I see this cone like these Colin's the big orange circle ones not like a regular traditional cone shaped by tying really not those but like the circle rally so they're lining the edges of the road normally and I saw one driving and is forty and I'm like why is one in the center of the road. Like what. Why is that and then always a nice? See this guy walking across the road he pick something up off the ground and runs in front of me to the other side. And I'm like what's going on so I slowed down and then I see two cars on the right and I see two cars on the left that went through the cones. And we're in the grass up a hill and I'm like That does look good and then I started going really slowly. I see all this stuff on the ground. I'm like Oh and then I see the the car on the right shoulder that was in front with completely clearly smashed on the driver's side. And I see this one lady. Limping like severely limping back towards the other car. And I'm like this is not that good I was like. Oh somebody's going crazy and only got there before the cost block the entire road to and I had to take something else in the dark to get home but yeah so many accidents that daily what was going on why I runs like rain to freeze. Oh my God. Winter weather is actually happened. I know they weren't expecting winter to come like this year. So they're like what is it this home my God is actually. The weather is supposed to be don't you because I'm cold before I get further into more of three before I get into number three addition of one. We have a commute story from a commuter story commuter update what do we call update. We have a commuter update another one. Yeah exactly there's also crazy we're we're our all the crazies that are happening Alan Sanders from the wild ride. PODCAST shares his crazy story. This is Alan Sanders a co host to the wilder ride podcast where we breakdown the films of Gene Wilder. One Minute of the movie at a time and you can find us anywhere. You just google the wilder ride so the question was is what's the most surreal thing you remember seeing or experiencing on the interstate for me. This is one when I first started doing that. Commute to the big city up down I seventy five between CARVILLE and Atlanta coming home through rush hour traffic and it was at that point where you were just getting far enough north of the city. That the gridlock doc was breaking and I was following a Ford explorer towing a bass boat. Now I don't remember seeing the explorer swerved to miss something all I remember is as I was following it I started to realize the boat seems to be swaying a little more than it was is when we were didn't stop and go traffic so I'm not sure if there was a momentary like if I didn't pay attention and there was a slight twitch on the wheel if the driver saw something the road and just did just enough of one of those real fast corrections that it started to create a little bit of a momentum swing on the boat trailer but I was watching it was one those really weird super slow moments where I felt like I was driving a little slower and a little slower. Because as I'm watching this I only see the trailer trailer. Slide a little to the left and then it slides a little to the right and then I noticed the explorer is trying to compensate by turning a little to the left or to the right eight opposite of whichever way the trailer was going and I was watching the trailer swings a little wider and wider. And I thought to myself okay. What's going to happen here? I have never seen this happen before. We're going going sixty five miles per hour on the interstate. But at this point I'm sort of like Ford off. The pedal just sorta coasting allowing a little more distance and it was the weirdest thing because is just as I thought that it wasn't going to slide again because it we were slowing down and I felt like if it hadn't lost control at this point we're good suddenly. It's like the back wheels of the trailer caught on something then. The explorer went ninety degrees and suddenly started rolling and I thought to myself how. How can it roll this many times? When we're not going that fast we may have been down to about forty forty five miles an hour? It seemed at this point and it rolled a full two two times landing on. Its wheels the boat itself role to I remember. Seeing the big outboard the Johnson Motor go flying and busting hosting apart. I saw pieces of the boat. Start to go and then it landed in the median. And here's this Ford explorer that managed to roll right into the emergency lane lane and was just in the median on its reels with a mashed roof. Boston glass a mangled trailer still attached to the trailer hitch and a boat. A Nice Bass boat in pieces in the median of the interstate. It was the craziest thing I ever saw and I just sat there. I had come to a stop as it came to a stop. Just sort of like jaw dropped. I had naturally pulled into the emergency lane. The guys got out. They were fine. They weren't in the best of moods called nine one one and win win about my way but that has been one of the most surreal experiences. I've ever had on the interstate. Thanks for letting US share the story and keep up the good work. Dr Live with us. Podcast we love what you guys do. Well I can't say I've ever had seen that happen. Where I've seen a lot of crazy in Maryland but I haven't seen Ed? I was so shocked that he's like all of a sudden. The car just turned nine degrees and started rolling. How was the momentum of the the boats so heavy like on the back on the trailer digest like all of a sudden? There's like I've seen I guess I've seen pictures of accidents and stuff where they had a heavy trailers in the vehicle in the front was on its side caused because there are so the way. Yeah Yeah Maybe the boat was just so happy that it's is like lost balance. I guess because it was like swinging so I probably have an idea that they started swinging to try and like counter acted. Stop Yeah Bus. Stop swinging then start going again. Yeah I think that would have been the safe option. Just come slow like slow down and come onto the more of US often the person behind he been like y you know like okay. We're stopping as opposed to just trying to out now. So the swing the guy but lease nobody was hurt. The boats GonNa seems like at least nobody was hurt and they ended up in the median Indian. Yeah conveniently on their wheels. They ended up just like. Oh I'm out of the way. Keep guys we're good crazy ya'll's else like they landed right in the median. Like we're already keep going to see here traffic nothing to see here. That's I was crazy but yeah never seen anything like that. Hopefully I don't I does is why I'm scared of ever being behind a cars with trailers I was like Oh my God. You're carrying a lot of what missile falls. I so my worry is not so much of something's GonNa fall out or anything like what if it comes on. Hitch that too. That's why I like start Game really far back or trucks like this work trucks are carrying all this up. That doesn't look like it's tied down. I'm just like you have the shovel point right at me or like the latter's like is that taped properly your or is I gotta come straight through my pointed. They'll come straight through the windshield into your face like okay. Yeah I don't know I don't think my reaction times and good and always like W I I can't I just like our shoulders clear and unlike ready and I'm like okay if I go right to have a better chance or if I go left I am a better chance. And that's what I start thinking and sounds like high numbers around me. I don't even think I just back off and I'm like I think I have enough space to where if things flies off ill land in front of me. Yeah but that's awesome. Thank God it lands in front of me. which way do I go to avoid it? I'm just like always go that far. I think of an exit plan all the time. I'm like all right you all the way through the night multiple scenarios where dislike. Please don't go one at a time but what happens then if it does then. You're not prepared yeah. I just hope that doesn't happen so I I mean I hope that doesn't happen either but I don't add an extra worry and stress that you rat on to your life thank you thank you. Yeah a little lady thinks what the address like you know you turn into an elderly. Yes sorry I thought you were saying that. Older ladies tend to stress Look older than you. I stress too much so I put on extra years. You've put on extreme years so putting on extra years I feel like my car is aging very fast faster than is old passer. That is old. Okay it's age too where I feel like it's like ten fifteen year old car whereas only it's barely even three losses hubcap. I'll get into story number four four three and a second but like I've come home and I just like part of the Carl driveway temporarily to open the garage door. I I can get in and it sounds like it can't breathe like it came like me and that mask. Yeah yeah because it makes a different noise like it. Sounds like it's like working so hard on the noise that's coming out of it how you diagnose that look yeah. I don't know but I it sounds like I can't breathe like assigning like is. His scientist pipeline is clogged. And unlike Dodi Ooh we really far to go every day. You're barely three years old. European car years now is very mature in miles so yeah but to make matters worse story number three number three I lost my hubcap yet. What okay car gave up on life? Everyone I've told the story to his asking me did you hear. Did you hear fall off like why are why. Didn't you hear it fall. Offer this and that so so I was driving to work and I was not too far from home. Owes like maybe ten fifteen minutes away from home not too far and the rose mostly straight for the most part was like excite turns here and there but the part I was at was a turn was coming but it was straight I so I didn't hear the cub cap come off my driver's front divers tire which is closest to you. But I heard like a sports car was coming the opposite direction blue sports car and I heard it like like a i. I heard a noise like a loud noise and I looked and I thought I ran over something but he ran over something and then I see my hubcap which at the time I hind you hit it like I don't think he like full-on over the minute I feel like he hit the edge of popped up and started rolling roll and and they saw role behind my car as well. Yeah and like I saw roby car and the car behind me was far enough back like slow now because servings rolling in the middle of the road and rolls in the night. I don't know where it went and you wouldn't even know where you were to go get. I don't remember these because at that moment I didn't think it was mine a a part of my car. I didn't pay attention to be like if I knew in my car. Pro would have stopped right there and just backed up all right onto the shoulder and walked out or something I think but I like driving in like I get to work and then I step out and like my eyes immediately go to my front tire. Looks Weird and I'm I'm like when do they put a spare tire like your spare can look like a spare tire without Home Cap and then it just clicked and that's okay guys. I'M GONNA be late to work. Cup was weird is the day before four or two days before when I pulled into work and I got my eyes immediately went to my hubcap and I was like looking at it and I was just like no it's intact it's on like it's fine so I guess it like a warning to be like you're GONNA lose this. Yeah like fix it but the thing was the one night the deer hit me fast. The one that got got damaged the hit that it was already sticking out a little bit select when I got my car repair and I asked him to put it in. But I guess that's the most I would go in because I guess allows bent and so it finally came off. Yeah Blake to much usage slowly. UNHINGING has animals like so we like I told you and I told my brother all likes us as we're driving by this area we're all just like driving by just looking to see if the size of the the problem is like when I leave home when I get home. It's dark so I could barely see the road in front of me let alone look for your thing. So I'm like oh I'll try and look for it is started Pouring when I was coming home like I can't even see the road. Would I like scan on the way home that day when I lost it. I scanned both sides of the road to see like yeah. I didn't see it on the roads on the day the next day driving to work I looked on both sides and driving home. I looked on both sides again. I'm like either someone took it or it's it's in the grass on the sign. There's no way I'm going to see a driving by exactly the walk all of the road and I don't remember the exact location so it's not like I go to that area and walk out and look. Yeah See. That's the problem. You should remember the location but if you didn't think it was yours you would just you remember like Oh this weird thing happened. They're like Oh yeah. That happened there. And Yeah so it's gone but I was looking at prices to replace it. Your Pricey see barracks. I deny. Expect a hubcap to be eighty bucks. One hubcap you're paying for the logo but then if I want to get an off market one without the logo. It's like thirty some fifty dollars for the logo. Yeah but I still think thirty dollars is a lie. I feel like I pay it like put like twenty to thirty dollars and I can get a hold of her. But so does the hub. Can I've had through your whole car off balance. Which is the story number four? I don't know I am more stories in number twenty five but we are already been on for an hour so I guess we're new to the next the remaining on my stories. What happened lead through her off balance? You'll have to wait and see the world may never know. Oh Yes story number four number five four five four and four and five for next time story before that one which that's number five okay. I'll probably have a bunch more by then too so my three four etc.. We'll be intermingled in there and if

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Giga Berlin, Megapack, Short Interest, Musk NYT Interview, BMW EV Plans (07.27.20)

Tesla Daily: Tesla News & Analysis

14:58 min | 10 months ago

Giga Berlin, Megapack, Short Interest, Musk NYT Interview, BMW EV Plans (07.27.20)

"Everybody Rob our here and today. We were talking about some news on Tesla's Gigabyte. Lynn Tesla Energy updated short interest on Tesla stock, a new Elon Musk interview with the new. York Times and some news on BMW's production status does stock on the day to day bounce back from the end of last week getting some macro help with the Nasdaq up one point, seven percent tussle stock on the day today up eight point seven percent to one thousand, five hundred thirty nine dollars sixty cents. We'll start today with some reporting out of Germany on. On gigafactory, Berlin they relates to tussles cell production plans at the gigafactory as we can recall from the earnings call last week. Elon Musk was asked by analyst about their battery plans for Berlin and he said quote okay well. We can't say too much about this. Except that there will be local cell production, and that will serve the needs of the Berlin factory and quote well over the last couple of days we have had some reporting by German media on some comments made by Brandenburg. States Minister of Economic Affairs Labor and Energy your. Your Steinbach that may shed a little bit more light on tussles battery plans in Germany bear in mind that for both articles here I am working from Google translated versions, but the first article from Deir Tagespiegel quotes Your Steinbach as saying quote Tesla has started planning for the production of battery cells and Grenada. The company told us that and quote then on the same topic, another article from our BB. Twenty four wrote a quote. Completely new technology and quote is behind the electricity, storage said Minister of Economics. York Steinbach on Monday Antenna Brandenburg. Brandenburg the new batteries are smaller and thanks to their higher energy density allow for greater range. The Minister set so in that translation I assume antenna means from broadcast from Vandenberg or something similar, but setting aside some of that translation weirdness, our focus is on him, saying that it's a completely new technology with smaller and more energy, dense battery salts now obviously smaller could mean a lot of things it could mean a physically smaller battery cell, or it could just be a way of clarifying the concept of higher energy density, more energy and. And a smaller space for volume metric density or more energy and less wait for governor metric energy density, so we'll probably have to leave it up to. You are German listeners to provide a little bit more context on maybe how that would more directly translate, but no matter the translation nice to see these comments and I think they would align very well with our expectations. The other information shared in these articles is that any battery production would to be part of a second phase of the factory and thus would require a separate approval. Approval process from the one that Tesla is currently undergoing, but clearly tussle has been in discussions because of the ministers knowledge on the situation. This does give tussle the benefit of not yet having to publicly disclose the detailed plans for that portion of the factory, which is potentially helpful, keeping the mystery alive as we head towards battery debt, according to the RB twenty four article, the Minister Steinbach did not know when battery production could start from Berlin. The other little tidbit that we got from the dare Tagespiegel article is that Tesla is still. Still searching for a location for design and engineering facility near Gigabyte Berlian, apparently they had been and prospecting. A site called the Europe campus, which is a sort of sustainable and technological pilot project district in Berlin, but apparently that has been now ruled out and the location search continues in general, though we continue to see really rapid progress at Gigabyte Berlian, there are a number of different youtube channels doing drone flyovers almost daily on the site, and the construction is progressing rapidly late yesterday you on replied to a tweet from Queen discussing this. This topic and said quote. Gigabyte Lynn will come together at an impossible seeming speed. The prefabricated construction method in Germany is extremely impressive and quote. I think in general because of how quickly tussle was able to get to production in Shanghai. There's a sense that does can't replicate that anywhere else. And it was only made possible because it was done in China and that train of thought is not without reason certainly, but Tesla Germany is doing everything they can to prove that logic wrong and so far comparing the milestones date by date which. To Lynn at toby. Lind has done a great job of tracking. It looks like at least at this point in the process tussles actually a few months ahead of the line from gigafactory Shanghai so probably worth remembering what you onset on the earnings call last week. Better factories for less money in less time. That's what Tesla is aspiring to do. Next up. Today is news on Tesla Energy. This is a ground-breaking announcement on a significant energy storage project for TUSLA. So I'm not sure if the project itself had been announced beforehand, but late last week, technology infrastructure company switch announce the groundbreaking of three energy projects in Nevada which will comprise five hundred and fifty five megawatts of solar and eight hundred megawatt hours of energy storage. The solar side of the project is not Tesla. That'll be provided by first solar, but for the storage side Tusla will be delivering megaplex for what it sounds like the. The entirety of the project, considering tussle delivered four hundred and nineteen megawatt hours of energy storage in Q. Two, clearly, the eight hundred megawatt hours that this project will scale up to. You is pretty significant next up today. I just wanted to provide a quick FYI that the New York Times did an interview with Elon Musk that they published over the weekend. In this case I think the new. York Times did a much better job covering Ilan and providing context than they did back in I. Think Twenty eighteen when they had their last interview with. Longtime listeners will remember my thoughts on that at the time. This did seem quite a bit better. We're not gonNA. Go super into detail here because it is more a personal peace, a lot of the tussle, stuff or business related stuff is a lot of stuff that we've talked about or heard specifically Tesla. He mentions how difficult it was from two thousand seventeen to mid. Mid Twenty, nineteen, and there's some discussion on short-selling and how personally Yulon has taken that, but once it here did stick out to me as being somewhat knew. This is from writer Maureen, Dowd. Who wrote quote Peter? Thiel who helps build a company that became pay pal with Mr Musk told me quote. He's on top of the world. All of the people who have. have been shorting stock who constitute a kind of hate? Factory against the company have been totally crushed, and that makes him very happy and quote. They also spent a significant amount of time in the article discussing Musk's relationship with grimes, which seems to be going very well, so it looks like you want is in a really good spot right now, which is always nice to? To. See All right next up today. I want to go through tussle short interest. We got an update on this on Friday. This is for the settlement date of July, fifteenth, and as of July. Fifteenth Tesla had twelve point. Seven million shares sold short down nine percent from June thirtieth level of about fourteen million shares. This one is particularly interesting because over that period. Period of time Tesla reported cue to deliver and production numbers, and also released short shorts, and the stock over that same period went from one thousand and eighty dollars per share an all time high by the way at the time, at least to one, thousand, five hundred and forty six dollars on July fifteenth that means the valuation of shares sold short went from fifteen point. Point, one billion dollars on June thirtieth all the way up to nineteen point seven billion dollars on July, fifteenth an increase of about thirty percent, despite the fact that the share count actually went down so for shares sold short, we continued to hit the lowest levels since two thousand eleven while the valuation of those shares sold short continues hit new all time highs so. So far year to date short interest is down about thirteen and a half, million shares, or just over fifty two percent from V roughly twenty six million shares that we had sold short coming into the year. The next short interest update will be aftermarket close on Tuesday August eleventh, and that will be for the Friday July thirty first settlement date, which will be our first. First visibility into short interest after q two earnings all right next up today I WANNA talk about a couple of pieces of news from BMW, the first is that the company has announced New Sustainability Targets for twenty thirty, which they described by saying quote. The aim is to significantly reduce co two emissions per vehicle by at least one third across the entire spectrum and To achieve that BMW wants to reduce per vehicle emissions by eighty percent and the production process, twenty percent and supply chain and forty percent in the use face as a part of this emissions reduction plan, BMW said quote in ten years. The goal is to have a total of more than seven million electrified BMW group vehicles on the roads around two-thirds of them with a fully electric drive train and quo remember. BMW, often uses electrified to include a plug in hybrids so far through the end of the. The year in two twenty nineteen BMW had to with more than half a million of these electrified vehicles like the I three or the I eight meaning the target is for about six and a half million more over the next decade, six, hundred and fifty thousand per year, two thirds of that being fully electric would be around four, hundred, fifty, thousand per year BMW had previously said that they intend to double the amount of electrified vehicles in their fleet by the end of twenty twenty one so if If, we assume that's a couple hundred thousand vehicles per year for the next couple of years than two to six and a half million cumulatively by twenty thirty or through twenty thirty, rather BMW would have to grow electrified vehicles sales at about twenty percent per year compound. If that were the case, BMW would be doing about half a million and twenty, twenty five, and approaching a million per year around twenty nine, and beyond, and that would be just electrified vehicles, so cut that two-thirds and that gives you. You your full e. v. sort of numbers, Tusla, as we've talked about as targeting more than four million per year and twenty, twenty, five, and more than twenty million per year, rough numbers here by twenty thirty, so clearly BMW doesn't have ambitions of that scale they never have. That's not their market. Obviously just highlighting the differences for those that like to compare the company's, but regardless of those ambitions. It would be nice to see BMW. Be a little bit more aggressive with their targets for electric vehicles. Vehicles within their own segment BMW continues to emphasize the importance of flexibility to their design and manufacturing process. In this release. They noted that the BMW seven series will eventually come with a full electric option emphasizing that it be then available in four powertrains, standard gasoline diesel plug in hybrid and electric. BMW then continues on to announce the same for their BMW X.. One and BMW five series, saying quote further examples of the quote, unquote power of choice will be the high volume BMW X. One and BMW. BMW Five series, which will also be available in the future with all four drivetrain variance, fully electric plug in hybrid, diesel and petrol with 48-fold technology and quote so BMW again fully buying into this flexibility in manufacturing model, which from everything that we have learned from Tesla. Everything that they've said on their quarterly earnings calls for years now combined with a healthy amount of common sense I just cannot see that being a cost effective strategy. Yes, you do leverage a little bit of the scale from the other. Other powertrain lineups, but I just really cannot see that offsetting the downsides that you lose from starting with a Queen Design for an individual type of powertrain or through benefits from focusing on one powertrain setting, even aside the added difficulty of designing manufacturing system that incorporates more flexibility as Tesla talks about all the time. That's the real product that's where the innovation is being made, and BMW is sacrificing their opportunity for innovation in this area for the power train of the future specifically, which at this point is? Is Pretty clearly electric in favor of the so-called power of choice for some period of time that will help BMW feel like they are transitioning when in reality, the plan that they have will never allow them to be fully competitive with ground up electric vehicle, and as those become more and more of the market, share, BMW, or it increasingly difficult to compete whatever reputation they had that allowed them to sell cars in the past will fade in the blink of an eye and in my opinion BMW. BMW will probably be out of business or be sold off I think they would be much better served to follow the strategy of instead of saying we're gonNA electrify everything parts of our entire lineup to just focus on making one good electric vehicle from the ground up, differentiating it from Tesla with interior trim, fancy paint, options and wheels may be exclusive owner benefits taking a page from the credit card model. These luxuries that Tesla just doesn't really care about dominate that niche. Get Your scale up and expand. Expand from there that seems to be portion is trying to do with Ticon, so we get a little bit of visibility into that strategy from Porsche. Though I do think they focused on slightly the wrong things may be trying to be a bit too true to the Brandon terms of track performance over some of the bare essentials for an electric vehicle range and charging network, anyway, getting sorta sidetracked there, but I do want to cover one other release here from BMW, and this is about their Munich factory. Factory which produces about thousand vehicles per day and two thousand engines for vehicles burdette? BMW announced last week that they would be temporarily shutting down this factory to convert it to the more flexible manufacturing that they're targeting. They say quote. We are gearing up our Munich plant for the future. Once remodeling is finished, we will be able to produce vehicles with diesel, petrol and hybrid drive trans as well as the fully electric BMW, I four all on the same line. This will allow us to respond flexibly to. To customer, demand and quote okay, so we talked about that, but case in point here they're shutting down their vehicle factory for forty five days. That's forty five thousand vehicles ninety thousand engines that they are not going to produce now for BMW. That's probably okay. Because of the coronavirus situation, they probably have a lot of excess inventory right now, but a lot of that is circumstantial, so let's assume that BMW didn't actually want to shut its factory down if we assume the average selling price on those. Those forty five thousand vehicles would have been forty five thousand dollars that would be two billion dollars in lost revenue from the shutdown period to convert your factory that is a significant opportunity cost to reconfigure factory for a product that is likely going to be a lower or negative gross margin for you initially. BMW works around a seven percent roughly operating margin, but because economies of scale those very last units that you produce or end up, not producing carry an outsized impact on that operating margin. That's also. Also known as the contribution margin, which on these vehicles out, guess would be more than ten percent so best case this downtime, and that lost revenue is costing BMW, one hundred and fifty million dollars in profit worst-case well over two hundred million, and we didn't even talk about the additional thousand engines per day, which could potentially double the impact if that's stopping vehicle production at another factory, so these are the hidden costs that other automakers have to deal with because they are not starting from scratch. Yes, they. They don't have to build an entirely new factory, but that's not as advantageous as it may seem. At first a couple of hundred million isn't going to get you entirely new electric vehicle factory, but a nice first step, and like we said before the factory is just as much a product, and that also benefits from a clean ground up design, so BMW for that when it comes to the product or for the factories. I don't mean to rebuff BMW. I just don't think the strategy is sound strategy. Strategy the one thing I will say for them. They did tie or said they planned to tie their board. Management compensation to the sustainability targets which I do still feel are not aggressive enough, but at least they are tying them into the compensation plans all right, so that will wrap today as always. Thank you for listening. Don't forget to subscribe in sign up for notifications. Make sure we on twitter at Tussle podcast and I'll see you tomorrow for Tuesday July twenty eighth episode of Tesla Thank you.

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Another Apple Car EV Rumour: LG and Magna | 14 Apr 2021

EV News Daily - Electric Car Podcast

18:06 min | Last month

Another Apple Car EV Rumour: LG and Magna | 14 Apr 2021

"Coming up on show team another apple car. Ev reema this time lj and magna the people behind the jagai stick around. We'll give you dates house also on the show today at the head of vw. Have been running. Tesla this is about new lower priced. Pollstar all right tell me more and mercedes benz delivering a of e vs first three months of this year. Well good morning good afternoon or good evening wherever you're listening to the world. Welcome to a new. Study for wednesday fourteenth. They my name is martin lee and like after every story. She doesn't have to kick it off with a story about reporting saying that elon. Musk tried to hire herbert dece to be the. Ceo of tesla. If you not aware or super into the world economy generally the car industry hub. Adi's is the guy who runs volts vulcan as a group not just the brand notice the badge but all the various companies that exist under vw group. And he's doing. I think a great job of meeting them towards an electric future but a recent report from business inside the in germany says the former bmw executive and the volkswagen group boss have adidas was off of the tesla ceo position. In twenty fifteen. The offer was of extended by the none other than elon. Musk according to inside vs. Who say that despite Spending fifteen years at bmw and quitting in two thousand fourteen. It wasn't long after that elon. Musk reached out to ask him to take the reins tesla world today at. Dc is highly respected leader in the ev community. I think in a way dragging the vw group into the future would've looked like in terms of tesla. I think like a key key. Reason tesla does so well is because it has that lead at the top of it now. We're asking that question on question of the week this week. And we're out your on on sunday all to do with whether you think. Vico companies need a charismatic high profile figurehead. Interesting also is coming in already. We'll read them on sunday and have a decent just left. Bmw he was in charge. Of 'cause like the bmw. I three and the eight. He gave them head start a leg up now he did and then. Bmw blewett and that kind of gang now so he did a great thing at bmw. I'm so pleased he didn't. Because i think the tesla in two thousand fifteen was still enjoying the warm glow of being the silicon valley startup new kid on the block that scrappy and not like the establishment and have a dc is the establishment in a good way sounds almost derogatory. When i said like that. But he's really not so. I'm so pleased that he ended up running the vw group. That germanic organized powerhouse. That way of doing business. Precise order. Planning all i kinda. That's how you that's how you drag hundreds of thousands of employees who work. Vw group into an electric future. The time so what's tesla right now. He's like fifty or sixty thousand employees at tesla at the time. I don't know how many people they employed in in twenty fifteen. It obviously would have been a step down for him at bmw by know. Lots of people were leaving. Bmw around that time because they could see the writing on the wall or they'd been told by their manages that we're not investing in electric in the way that others. Aw it's it's five years down the road and these are people that brought the three and the birth. The i and these are great electric cars and beat up. Bmw could've built from them. So i understand why not him but a whole layer of kind of names that the general public would know all left. Bmw around that time to go to other interesting things because they could also see that it that made electric cars they could. They can see five years ago six years ago. Electric was the future played. It didn't happen. But what do you think i'd love to hear from you. You can email me anytime. My email addresses. Hello at evening. News daily dot com next. We'll talk about a lower priced single motor pollstar to comes with a heat pump. And it'll do. Two hundred and sixty miles front wheel drive in a heat pump. A part of the toolkit the new lower price version of the pollstar to using to achieve its epa driving range the affordable. Single motor and ju- motivations of the pulse start to expected to come in at two hundred forty and two hundred and sixty miles respectively slightly less with the jewel motor even though they use exactly the same battery. Pack there's no change their seventy eight kilowatt hours according to a green reports. Now they write that. These models haven't been priced yet but green car reports expect them to stop between forty five and fifty thousand. Us dollars not including the federal tax credit which of course they are eligible four so this is really interesting news the postal and not just stopping there with the pollstar too but they are continuing to try and bring that price down with various ways but of course still having the heat pump you can have the offers part of the plus pack and you can add to either of those two models the postal to getting a lot of range from seventy eight kilowatt hour battery. Pack the pollstar two very popular in nordic countries. Not just because pulsed. Aw volvo sweden but a really great car a postal one was studying kushner big combustion engine inside that along with a big battery but i wonder how many people in those countries weather can be bad. And i'm a million miles away from norway sweden denmark that area However i'm far enough away on the south coast of england. So i'm far enough away that we get a few really bad days of whether a year i don't need a four wheel drive car be interesting to see how many people in those climates where it can get really cold for months of the year and telling the big deal that so how many in those markets that they've been doing really well in the two wheel drive a four wheel drive. And what are you on. Do you wanna four wheel drive car. Just because he's go performance because you live somewhere where you need that evi power instant talk and you need four wheel drive. I just don't for me to have the extra range two wheel drive. It's lighter simpler and cheaper single version arriving in the us by the end of the year. And they're putting in fifteen showrooms across the us as. Well i'd love to know from you kind of you know. What do you want from an elevated is. It got to be four wheel drive. Is that a deal breaker. On a seventy people. Listen to this podcast. In cold climates. There will be answering in the affirmative. Next let's talk about mercedes. Benz now the big headline story. That of course they would go with is the they delivered six hundred thousand vehicles in the first quarter of the year. And that as a heck of a number and congratulations to everyone at mercedes benz For doing that. But what we really interested in is and i tell you that number simply because we need to understand mercedes dime la massive organization so much work today to make electric. I think they're doing a good job of it. However there were some nuggets of information in this press release mercedes-benz confident of keeping strong sales throughout the rest of the year because they started off the year with twenty thousand preorders for the all new an all electric e q a and. That's a great number. So what i've raised about the a on the podcast. The while ago. I had a fair amount of people. It wasn't overwhelming but a lot of people coming just a battery park there's no electrical. It's combustion coal we've batteries in okay. Well i didn't take a great deal of notice of the combustion ranges of any car manufacturer ready but yes i did no. I didn't know that it was jay. And yes it is the a because it's got some batteries in electric motors about ten percents of the maker. Sales last quarter were made up of cars with a plug. Sock it on The mercedes-benz bordman bertha seaga said we will keep up the pace for fixation on april fifth. Think we present s our electric flagship model. I'm convinced the. Us will fascinate customers around the world. A game changer in terms of driving experience and connected services. And that's going to be fascinating when we tell more about the mercedes benz s because that is going to be a car. That has the potential to talk about luxury in a way. That hasn't really been around the well right now. You know this is this is from the same stable brings us may backs so yeah it needs to be quick ish. It doesn't need to be tesla fast. Tesla is and people will test or a one trick pony then no. They're like a three trick. Pony like they've got performance the supercharging network the world's best software in any car anywhere full stop. So maybe there were three trick pony. But actually if you're gonna drop hundred k. On something and you don't absolutely need to live and die by the performance is going to be interesting thing where we see people. Go well actually. I want all the luxury that mercedes are able to deliver. I guess i'm trying to say is if they make an s class with batteries but appropriate not just much conversion appropriate and this is built in the. Us is gonna be on a electric platform but a really good battery engineering. Great powertrain engineering but full of luxury. I mean even like gemin- luxury engineering for the sake of it. Just because they can. I know it's got doors that open the model x. So you just walk towards the car and the door opens and you don't touch it. He's in on the brake pedal on the plays alexi Stuff like that. Because that's where we get this one the full expansion of the av market. So tesla will be doing their thing with the model s. and they'll still be fights about which one's better blah blah blah blah blah ignore. That is just sitting noise on twitter but then the estimate very different thing. Yeah it's going to be on german autobahn so it's got to be quick note to sixty sorts of important but that gets old really quick and that really is just a foot spotty teenage boys living in that parents bedroom wanting to win stats walls of like top trumps la. How quick guy when he musk and he makes cars that go nor to sixteen one point. Nine seconds doesn't matter to anyone in the real world. I mean once you hit puberty really moving them. What do you think about the mercedes. Electrification strategy at the moment again. I'd love to hear from you on any of the stories that we talk about on this podcast. My dresses hello at evening news. Daily dot com stick around. Question of the week is coming up at the end of the show. And we'll read at your on says on sunday all about Having those kind of idolized figures of the top of companies next working. How tessler is replacing hardware. Model three hardware. Three four model. Three in gemini test has begun replacing full self-driving equipment in germany. The model threes the faster. Payments refers refreshed replacements. Taking place in less than a week now next monday starts for the official hardware replacement program tasmanian reported last week they service center representative in hanover contacting the owner of a model three to inform him. Hey come in because upgrading hardware to and hardware two point five two hardware free great news for many people in europe. This has been a real hot topic for lots of people who wants to get that upgrade puchased full self driving and hardware threes but installed on new s. An ex since well a couple of years now and yet model three vehicles. That were a little bit older. Didn't get it and those early adopters in europe and been waiting for long times. That is fantastic. News or affected By the way. I can say from the download stats. We have listeners. All over the world to this podcast any german listeners. getting the hardware. I'd like to know about it. Hey l. g. and magnetic Very near to signing a deal with apple headline story that i coating a report from the korea times apple is close to signing a deal with joint oaten automotive partners. Lg that'll be for battery and powertrain stuff in magna now that's new organization is called. Lg magna eight powertrain. The contracts will see lg and magna international produce initial rounds of apple and apple expecting to introduce that apple in two thousand and twenty five according to nine to five mac dot com. They say the partnership of lg in magna is going to be complete later this year with apple as that primary client the beginning of the year. Florida of repulsing. The apple was working with one of the korean companies hyundai kia however it kinda leak. Then apple came out and said no. We didn't talk about future products than hyundai came out and no no no. We never said that. We're working with apple. La fingers in as apple famously secretive. And i think we're gonna really badly apple. Hq now it's interesting. The apple just keeping talked about with electric vehicles. And i just think it's a massive mistake. Because i as as much as it kind of depresses me. A little bit. I'm so in the apple ecosystem. She not for the computer. I'm recording on for video audio editing of us. Pc always have used pc. Its muscle memory of twenty five years. I moved to a mac two years ago about now. Actually my goodness it was pro. Yeah able to years ago moved to a macbook air. And although it's silly. My wife has a macbook pro. I've got the phone. The watched the ipod. I couldn't walk the keyboard. My my brain is an old brain and it wasn't retraining fast. I went back to pc But but everything else apples in my life because it makes nice shiny products that work and then often make many missteps at you. My bowel may hey looking you apple maps originally but they generally get it right caused a rubbish idea for a company like apple because cows breakdown and go wrong and that polluting however you look at it making an is a big impact on the planet and then he goes through tires like people's ties all the time. Where does way to tie go. Its microparticles that clog up our ecosystems that is going some way doesn't just disappear and so it's just a terrible idea. carl's where apple but it's a massive market. The automotive market is bigger than the tech market swimming. So could possibly be a money maker for apple. What are you recommend apple cows or leave it to everybody else. Though the oily bits and stuff need replacing and fill up washing at the weekend. No that's not want apple stuff for. Let's quickly talk about a couple of very quick but a stats. The western european plugging market. In the first three months of the year number out stats are in and the big number for january february march full hundred and forty three thousand deliveries of cars plug sockets on the second highest quarterly volume on record and it was plug in hybrid models. Actually this time the did well two hundred and forty five thousand registrations compared to one hundred ninety eight thousand pure electric cars. But that's okay because it's still two hundred thousand pure electric house here in western europe germany doing particularly well plugging volumes in sweden now surpassing norway and good news wherever you look at the moment with electric cars just imagine if the supply was there because we often a little bit supply constrained. Actually podcast today. Have you enjoyed it. I'd love to know what you think about our question of the week this week. In order to get people to take up damore. Ceos needs to be publicly visible publicity machine. An idolized demi gold like elon. Musk or to the general public. Not you not me. People that are listening to a podcast but the general public who less bothered about cars. Do they care. He runs companies. They want to for some the on infamous leaders both good that. Let me know my dress. Hello at newsday dot com if you can leave a little review. It's always so useful apple. Podcasts you can check out the patriot. Absolutely they fresh. 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Ep 005 - Andreas Thurner and Karma Automotive

Cars That Matter

39:22 min | 1 year ago

Ep 005 - Andreas Thurner and Karma Automotive

"From commedia this is cars that matter manner Robert. Ross with cars the matter and I'm here this afternoon with my guest Andrea Sterner greetings. Andreas Hi Robyn. Thank you very much for having me. there's GonNa be fun. Andreas is with Karma Automotive in Irvine California and has been there since two thousand sixteen. Now now he's the vice president of global design and architecture but I know before that there were some interesting goings on with Rolls Royce and BMW of a lot of history. There there you graduated from four time in in Germany the university in with transportation degree in two thousand and four is that right. That is correct. Yes but you leapfrog right. Go Away into an important job. You went to Rolls Royce. Yeah I was twenty five years old and basically no experience as a professional cars. I did my internship during the studies ladies with BMW Group in advance design was then invited to come back and do my finest thesis so the theme of my final thesis was the spirit of BMW W. Luxury in the future. I was fascinated by finding out. What was the spirit? Like of Denali class the seventies and what was all about and what is is the meaning for that for the future should any meaning be and so I wanted to find out instead a unique way of BMW way of doing this of challenging. That what I did I. I reached out how to this designers of that period I reached out to Manfred Renan to pope. Rock to boycott Boyer tried to arrange meetings with them board a nice bottle of wine. I'm always a good way to get the conversation about cars going exactly Asked them if I could visit them in their houses they were older gentlemen. They were happy to invite me into talk about the past. So what made that special y did they work. What was different to established companies at that time Macedo Macedo was established? Talk about like W was really the underdog it was the underdog they were basically not. Let's not a startup but the challenge for sheriff smallest symbols like they I recall they said you know we all heads short arm shirts. We did wear ties guys Mercedes would or ties and jackets and so on they saw at BMW there were very few people very small teams. You knew exactly recluse by first name. Who was responsible for dynamics who was responsible for this and that so you knew responsible for some very beautiful cars? Yeah yeah it's hard to imagine something more perfect as an exercise in economy and efficiency than the BMW two thousand two or something more beautiful than a three point O. CSL S. l.. Absolutely and then you listen and you hear about this more stories in the Vintana what he did in order to challenge the fords and so on. It's amazing voice. I was inspiring for me and then of course you heard not only the attitude holiday interacted. How fast how? They will how they describe the products like tailored suit just enough. Never never more than just in us. That's right perfect an understatement but under statement. That was absolutely right anyway. This was probably my start into something of a little bit more meaningful Karazin and really trying to bring the point across. Okay one can make a difference by showing that they are different approaches. My model was shown at BMW to the board. The board came down into designed to saw to see to review my Ska- more love the seven series. You know that never happened before. And I was then asked to present my I model to the group design chiefs of you know many hildebrand at that time in Cameron Roy's right and of course the at the time I'm Chris Bangle was in charge of things at BMW and Christina was leading. That so I was. I recall when I presented that was even before presented. If it's in our school and I was so worn out or sober out. I couldn't even think of any like CV or application. Or even fact I. I didn't want him to work in that industry at all. Because I was just tired I was just out I. I hadn't even started yet so I I already had an application go in go into Israel for one year and two keyboards ought to go the other application I had was to go on the boat and Netherlands for year and just play Guitar Karen. Just you know every everybody's dream but then Justin this presentation three or four of the different brands chiefs Give me a business card and one of them said we should talk. That's he and Cameron of course former design director at at Rolls Royce motorcars. And we've had in on the show and what a fascinating character is. I guess a bit of a mentor to you. Obstacle the mentor and And that's the thing one of the most inspiring people in this industry industry. Yeah later got different opportunities but really in brought his team around that same time. This was a small Rolls Royce Team within BMW. I'm W that was kind of bird special. Nobody saw them really. They were in their own corners and like the elite they just launched defend sent them some years ago debt Kearns by me and saga car that matters epcot at meadows so defendthem is thought such would not at all be possible anymore and and I was a student so that had a big impact. Still it was so far away for me. I would have never dreamed into applying there again. to work there was just too far away. So when in then protest team around and said can you wait and you know he proceeds Merrick Georgia rich and Dean Smith and Charles called him. America was responsible for the exterior of the Phantom. My right Merrick was the suspension design. And of course set the tone for the future of Ross with his styling emphasis this with with this feeling as well but everybody there was just so warmhearted and saw impressed by the approach. Not Everything the thing that I did for my thesis was wonderful a perfect when I looked today. The sketch don't even want to look at. The sketches artist is his own worst critic but I remember when when Ian I met in again for the interview and the first thing he said I mean by first name directly. Of course he's British so there's no worry about zero. Do Not know about Zine do and I remember that he said in one. He said to one of the other team members in the very beginning that he hired me because he liked my is. This is just. It's just. It was different I was just not about not about I had as well offers. Where would have earned in the beginning more more money but with I didn't even ask I didn't I didn't even know what we're going to earn right? It was just like oh it was just an honor. TASTIC will obviously we want to talk about what's happening at Karma and how a lot of these past experiences of yours and the great the depth of knowledge gained with BMW and Rolls Royce of kind of informed. Your notions of luxury with the new company. But you know let's go back before we kinda jump into Karma and talk about for a minute some of the things that really inspired you know I I had a chance to look could you with your portfolio and obviously the drawing is remarkable a lot of car designers quote unquote obviously have some great executive skills. This with the Pencil or the pin but drawing obviously something. That's really important to you and you have an art background and maybe WanNa talk about that for a moment. I think that very few designers have a fine art background and to me it seems like a rare connection that informs designer in a way that that would not otherwise be so informed. Yon Sketching Design means a lot for me even before I could probably articulate in any other way over sketching all the time my parents have four boys and they hey tell even when I was two three years old I was getting all the time to all the others later when I was in kindergarten and then in school I was asked by my older brothers us to sketch their homework when they were when they were back. In High School or IM- University. I did some art projects for them. They said it was the way were again. Ingress backed from our orders but it was very special this story as well let I love to sketch so much and then kindergarten teacher. Who who who let me do that right I I? Usually they're yelling at you. Young man put the pencil down and listen to this history lesson notice. This is actually really reason why why we decided. Here's as we're in California. Our boy goes to a while of kindergarten because he can be being created if this is the the best education you can have the academic education starts. It's much later there. Yes and in my experience was the same thing. I just was allowed to sketch all day. The rest of the time I wanted to be carried around shows ever since the mom mm kit but then coming into school. I had a teacher who did not understand that or who for sure thought. Doing good by being strict wanting to be strict strict wanted to forbid me to sketch and I realized much later this was really a critical phase for me. I was getting afraid. Oh I was. I was was slipping down in In Not really catching up with the others in terms of reading who seek a lot was home and so on so my parents learned that as soon talk school came up at home. I was quiet. I couldn't express it but I was not has the not happy there. Well obviously drawing for you became a creative endeavor early on. I and seems to me that it's still really fundamental building block to your creative process in your current design role. I mean without drawing. How would you do it no? It's it's the starting autumn point of for everything. I think you need to understand. You need to articulate fantastic life drawing professor enforce them he always said you need to through through drawing understands basically the backside what you don't see so you'd Utah around you understand your immerse yourself in in something. It's an important thing it's an important thing it's like you're you're exposing a lot of your personality. You're like a hand writing. I don't have the most beautiful handwriting. But the still the the our our lines how what importance you can put into. One single line is What kind of respect you know no knowledge experience? Kengo one thing line as daunting as it's amazing and many times of course a car can carry that same line and carry that same signature through the Arkham offender or a profile or or even a detail that really sort of identifies its creator in a way. That's completely unique before we go on. We're GONNA take a quick quick break and then come back with my guest under his third on cars the matter hey. This is Chris Jenny from win. Last I left another Komiya podcast and we have some awesome news. Free Super Super Exciting. If you're anything like me gift-giving can be kind of difficult this time of year. I'm not like you know your I'm really great at giving much better giving you know why. WHY DEVICES RESERVE DOT COM vices preserve dot com vices reserve DOT COM? It's the perfect place to get unique. curated gifts that don't suck like cocktail. Kits gadgets really great liquor. They don't stop there though they don't if you use the code podcast. VIP You get an extra fifteen percent off everything in the store. Everything is fifteen percent off with the code podcast. VIP VIP everything advices reserve dot com. That's insane you should go now. I'M GONNA go as soon as I finished listening to this upset. Something Guy will welcome back the cars that matter. Andrey's as we talk about Rolls Royce briefly. But I think it's important to kind of go back and touch on on some of the really important breakthroughs that you and the team made with both the ghosts and and the dawn the ghost of course being smaller sibling to the large and stately Phantom. And of course the dawn being the convertible or drop head version of a very beautiful. The Personal Rolls Royce. I was hired for the ghost. Two Thousand Four. When I started the project was not define at all? It could have been this or that of so. It was prior to the proportion in phase was the concept discussions and one of the first drips. That design team did was to Goodwood and collapse. Kafer was actually still the Seo and it was the day before he left right from other audie day before he left. So I was brought in for this project and I remember of course when you you come in and you when I'm the only one fared. Oh my gosh. This is what history. What more responsibility in there? Somebody who really believes in you so you better deliver. AH The first weeks. I put up sketches and sketches and sketches. The whole the whole full of sketches and remember incoming innocent. Andrea's don't stress yourself just building one car you know it was not about It was not what quantity that he wanted at. That was something learn immediately. The it was about quality the do the right thing believe in it. Don't open if you don't believe in it. All the possibilities go vote for what you believe so many many many many of these of these occasions and then so we continued had a one and a half two years proportion face not an easy. What does that mean does that do when the proportion phase helped me in our audience understand what that exactly means so often identifying what the general concept of the car is so? Let's say it's a four door or red sedan in order to seize roadster new starts concept phase with you engineers and you know different parties have different proposals. See He makes sense to spend take so and so many carryover pieces from a seven series or or do something completely different or find a hybrid. And what is that. Hype it worth so you need to. Then it's Mordon negotiations is really you have different passes you different the the same design in the best case that you can compare it and go one or the other pass so we had a good proportion phase I think a successor proportion phase and then we went into a sixteenth century house in in southern England in West Sussex. That'll be a new house in England wouldn't probably It's a beautiful beautiful for house with a ballroom with our own chef who later became two Michelin Star Chef and wanted to go this. The this was this was a very very impressive time as well in many ways. That boss called the kickoff of the design phase after the proportion face the tricky rickie part for me was that was the first time for me after like two and a half years living in over the freezing and already like dreaming and carrying the Cath through through to make sure this is the stance does is important or it was already my baby right. Basically and I was twenty seven or twenty eight then oil and then suddenly. The design competition started so suddenly we had a designer coming in from design works. We had somebody coming in who just ninety two BMW bullying that this was yours. This was just a normal sinus. So more people came in and they started Dan. I I David beautiful rendering some sketches and I was. I was kind of in shock. US At known I'd the Muslim tip that something like this could happen and another one of of those stories that I will never forget. You know of in Cameron. He comes in and realizes that I've kind of blockage or I can't deliver the first couple of days or a week. I don't know when it's worth and he just says well you don't have to show me anything anymore. You showed it before that you can do it not the problem. Just enjoy your time boy. Talk about faith. My Gosh and the next day I was able to sketch again then tests. And these basically these renderings that are have here. You are done in this house like the days after he said this to me. This amazing I wish our audience could see these rendering so exquisite talk about artistic as artistic capabilities. These these are gorgeous illustrations. Very soft and painter. -Ly are those done with markers or a computer. How do you render these these things so I was experimenting with with Watercolor with Hen? My sketches are all first hand sketches. I'm not a good schedule on the computer. Think differently in a piece of paper but the young designers day sketch on a computer butter. This actually not always good and tried to challenge them from time. I'm to time. Yes because you know EPA Z.. Z. You can just. It's just replaceable. So that's right and that's that's the difference between typing on a keyboard and actually being being able to write in cursive of Right it you feel it in a way that you can never feel it if you click the keys absolutely and to have this as well that you actually really you know you could screw it. Up is something special sketchy rendering where you have to exactly know when to stop this abuse. Well into that right different relationship. You have to sketch so for example on this series of these blue renderings at men for me. Something how I did them. They was the goals dried out of the show. That was they should be powerful. They should be elegant. They should be like nobody else has done them before. Never never seen them before. So this was this was demeaning for me behind that address giver audience a Quick Glimpse of Parma's history as it is and what the opportunities and challenges were when when you came there so comma was bought by the one John Croup some like four years ago five years ago four years ago and one John is is the largest part supplier manufacturer in China but they have many many other businesses well as Juancho North America in the one Chun China insurance companies hotels and much much more but long John is a company with principals with Ray Noble Principles. We got to know the chairman and now his son unfortunately chairman dies but he was a hero he still is a hero in China. He never sold the company. It was always always good to his people he always. He did everything for his people and he bought calmer as well by saying he wants to not only be part supplier he want to bid up his own luxury brand to give back to his people and people believed him because he never took more for himself than up to really need it so his office was super simple. Firing story he flew flew economy. You know it was a billionaire with Andreas raise the forefront of new car design. I had to ask them take a look into a crystal ball to see where car design was going specifically through the Lens of luxury. What about battery? Electric pure battery vehicles. Is that going to be where we're going. I think for an interim time for sure if it is battery powered think definitely electric cars. But they are different ways to to power them as well for a period of a generation or two four. I'm I'm pretty convinced right now. Drive at home to electric cars and it's just so convenient and you know not not at all any feel of range variety. It's just not happen. It's just not there as ranging sightings awfully overblown by the way I just have to but in and say this somebody who was talking the other day. Like if you've got a problem or you insane what do you mean how many times do you drive from La to San Francisco Cisco or you stop in the middle behalf to stop and have lunch stopping Harris ranch you go. You plugged the car and you have a steak sandwich you come out and your cars fueled or electrified. You go on your way range. Eggs -IETY is absolutely overblown. Absolutely yeah it's it's by the way while at great joy and fun to drive life edge. Casino and electric costs are by the. Hi That's right. All the center of gravity is down. Low where you want it. And then you're basically flicking around a little go cart. Absolutely I mean I love. Driving cars are allowed to drive a porsche. It's just I think like a Swiss clock perfect in the same time I was. I don't say the brand now was driving allowed car which would have excited me some years ago very very much and I thought in the end caught a lot of noise for. You're very lit a lot of noise but of course I love sound but still this was like somehow especially at seven in the morning when you're going to work note so yes. There are great opportunities but you know technology should not be used for take off. Let's use more technology. It's supporting and experienced. That you WANNA bring across. Water is standing for what. What are your principles? What are your experienced Principles what does your company stand for and then you need to find some certain technologies that support that idea and the more discreet they are. They more on obvious they are the better. It is the antiquated from a design. Point of view. Yeah it maybe that takes us in a direction where my observation in has been that as things become more I'm GonNa say technologically bitcoin US in other words. Let's assume for the moment that auto manufacturers going forward adop- all electric platforms and all these guys do zero to sixty in three seconds or whatever I mean this is all you know. It's sort of a given all of a sudden performance is a given and it's astounding all of a sudden they adopt all of the technological amenities. So you've got your connectivity. You got all the kinds of the things that you want and frankly whether you're driving a prius or a phantom it's going to have all of those things so in a Lotta ways. The playing field has been leveled. Every car is equal every car. Performs to the Max. Every card delivers everything. You want at that point. My question is what will be the measure of a luxury vehicle. What role does design play in defining a one car as a real statement of of luxury and excellence? Well I think it's very very important role on again on how you get there. What are your authentic thoughts behind Hainan? How how does the whole team get there? What is the story for it? So what would be the authentic that you interact with your car. How you feel in your car again again? It's not a shell. One example is how something probably I learned. Egg Rolls Royce was cultivated. Let's say rose rose because I was always interested to to dig a little it deeper but what I do with my designers as well and now I sent them out not only for days but for for weeks and sometimes more than a month to work somewhere whereas not in the design studio they go to for example they worked at the Hollywood hits and stayed. There slept there and got the task for me to to try different things dress differently. Go and different restaurants and West Hollywood's going different libraries or galleries and see different people people with different eyes and experience. Something very unique and so when you experienced something very unique to yourself something very UN exchangeable then you can design something very unique and you can tell a story with your product that will inspire people as well. It's not exchangeable. You're basically offer something nobody as offers You take in materials from these experience from this context you take in feelings and and that is not the. I don't WanNa say you mentioned the any other car like it's not an exchangeable average car at desert certain our. There's there's a certain presence. There's a certain than confidence. And this will the the possibility for uniqueness because it's not good. It's it's experienced right so I ask are kind of material designed at the Hollywood heads. The first review the image boards was still full of beautiful pictures just from the Internet. Let's say now changed that now. You should at least spend half of your time now that the house or three quarter of your time but spending outside outside so make sure the next pictures come from your cellphone con from the Internet. Come from your come from yourself and then it is clear. No other design in studio in the world will have these same images. Well you know. We've talked about moving forward. Obviously I'd like to ask you what's happening with Carmen. Some secrets in the future there. I'm not sure you're GonNa told me much but in a nutshell. Can you tell us where you're going next where we have. We have outstanding Aref powertrain technology already ride with the Rivero the GT. And yes. I I can say that. I'm really more impressed. I'm touched by how good at drives. Drives extremely good at Monterey were we met yes. Journalists and former race drivers were testing the cars and they they feedback the engineering team. I can't take this democratic but our engineering and team got to hear from them that this 'cause superior to the stood cuts which is pretty damn amazing for the first proper ground up engineer engineer car for such a small company and I- small company by the way. Let me interrupt and just ask you how many people are with Karma. We are way way under thousand which is in the automotive industry or context very small has very intimate very intimate. What we have a complete full value chain be manufacturer we do after thing from A to Z Which is pretty amazing? But what I want to say the car already so the existing Padron already tries to chassis the way cop brakes since tears is fantastic and I can only encourage everybody to dry it out. This is the one side of our business we day and cultivate tate. Basically this serial hybrid. You always drive electric but you can generate nor new electricity and this is the Rivera. You're Rivera it's a fantastic driver's car fantastic drivers guy and that was positively shocked after say an driving and right now. I'm here with a car. Right fantastic the other aspect aspect so beware continued this poetry and and we will see lots of opportunities to to use this technology in different concepts in the same time we arrived now approaching complete new platform a bath platform which again hess a battery electric vehicle. But this is a purely battery driven. Take it without an engine combustion engine and this officers different opportunities new opportunities. It's the same or more excitement for designers because because we have so much opportunity all the space or that space which you can use S. S. space or negative spills that's right you both ways and And you just have to make it very deliberately. Yes and of course with you. Know the economies of scale that I assume obtained with your parent corporation. I mean that's basically battery central troll. So you've got all of the technological underpinnings and all the supply chain that you would potentially need to actually imagine an engineer and build those cars. Yep Ah in the same time. You're always looking for partners. The industry's moving. So fast. And one hand it is about hardware and the other hand it is about software or an ecosystem and services that you can provide and or there. We are here in in this situation this well in an area which is very very positive exciting exciting cooperation that never existed before almost of necessity but also with a mind for efficiency prophets. And everybody wants absolute absolutely. We are not anymore just designers or cobblers. We are not just companies. Who Do be to see as a business to the customers directly but now will be to be business to business we talk to other companies who offer services and be joined forces to offer services combined to customers that could be interested in our united forces? So it's very very interesting and do you have to start designing with an understanding a standing for business as well and for different different opportunities from the start so in other words potentially a you might have client come to you. WHO's looking to help Pew design something completely outside of the automotive arena but that would rely on your Expertise and your approach to problem solving. Yes yes we. It's not only design but several departments in our house Actually set up to be their own profit centers as well which is very interesting which is stimulating relating for the design team. They can be you know flying car. Come around or can be those interesting topics. We just designed third third boss fully electric bus which will dry for we sorta first prototypes already driving in in in China. They no kidding. They haven't China and it's impressive. The view approach this differently. And you learn for your own business again right. It's like a piece of architecture basically and now you learn that you can bring it back back and and learn as in mid-october we are opening our new design studio in in Iran. It's a brand new beautiful. You know long leg geico played off. Stephan Meyer measuring played. It's it's incredible. We designed our design. This design that there's so it's awesome. We'll be right back. Sometimes the exceptional is not the biggest budget. Sometimes the exceptional is someone's ability to actually take their soul and printed on the screen. For a moment. I WANNA learn everything that there is to know about the filmmaking process. I think part of art is hearing from the artists who created a number of different visions. A number of different qualifications that have to go into making any film is insurmountable and hearing those stories can be just as exciting and insightful as the navy's themselves certain movies or certain scores certain actors have shaped who I am as a person have such appreciation for the things that people produce and the work that goes into whether it's the writer who came up with this story in general or how filmmakers were able to take that from the age and put it onto screen and then from the actors themselves who are able to kind of bring that all to life. That is what I I wanna hear because it makes me love my favorite movies even more. I'm Scott to law. If you love movies like I do. You're going to love. Hollywood would unscripted wherever you get your podcasts. We're back now with cars that matter my guest Andrea stor. What a great glimpse of your past experience and and your present projects Andreas? It's great to talk to you about these things but we also want to talk about some stuff that is near and dear to our listeners. Certainly to me. That's cars that matter most to you. Let's dig into that a little bit. What are some of your favorites? The very first carded I owned and bored with the very first money that I earned Edwards Roy was seventy five Hi Romero. GT designed by. Batasuna is and that was very special for me. I I loved cards I think. Almost like the golden cats of how it stands. It's designed by young. Joo Jaro. It's right he was actually the same age when he designed that Carter was his first car because that was nineteen sixty one one design. The first step knows was around. Then is that right. Yes yes and then it went through I guess seventy five in Europe as the two thousand correct. Eso I've had one of the latest production cavs offs and that was amazing and gorgeous shape. It really is beautiful. It looks so dynamic and so simple as well you know we talk about. Simplicity and reduce would use reduction. has this full of tension this car full of tension and even being steady. It has a lot of motion forward motion to it. And you can just see. See Italian you know against him. Bev -solutely I love putting that car next to a BMW. Two thousand two. And maybe next to a Datsun. Five ten audio put all three together and he realized they were racing together at the same class and then all tearing each other up and doing an amazing job but talk about how culture in have a signature automotive design every single one. You can tell where those cars came from and Jaros little. Gt was really the most Italian car that you could have imagined from the time. So the Little Alpha really informed some of your original inspiration for cars. What else definitely Lee the indefinitely? Cars of the pre Ov face and the thirties. So definitely because you know this whole time seem to have been and so special in terms of pioneering or as well competition if it's the friendship it's the Bugatti of that time the you know the Atlantic is just just outstanding. But then as well what you know the defendant tools. Just look at the propential- Horta Phantom tool an amazing thing mile long hood arrogancy Colombani. It's over there yeah proportionally. There's probably nothing more wriggling stately and impressive than the car. The yeah you say the sheer presence and then as well how smart smart how tiny but yet perfectly fit the cabin wasp and right throws Heine just impressive just beautiful yeah so appre wars. It's interesting that a contemporary designers so affected by prewar designs. I think that says a lot about your appreciation for history whether you you probably see when you see the se one that there is. There's definitely something of drama. And something of that again. Pioneering Spirit and expressive oppressive presence from those days to imagine. Just have to imagine to. How would it feel to sit in the Spitfire and half half that knows in front of you or you know you're talking about a triumph Spitfire? You're talking about the airplane and Yes that is a magnificent view. Yeah and then you know in the you have this this Merlin engine in front of you of course now. We don't have an engine in front of us but still you celebrate. Proportions is celebrate power just with the proportions. And this there's something I'm convinced that something about proportions and stance that we just never age that's right. That's why a Jaguar e type looked so good today as it did the day it was born absolutely it looked like a starship landed. Actually we were as well thinking about common. We did. Yeah very interesting. Well I never want to be presumptuous. Assume that one thing informed the other but no question that the the se one has has that proportion stance and kind of perfection of line. What about driving you like driving driving? I like driving A. I'm I'm not sure if I'm very good drive. But a loved driving out and what you'd mentioned earlier the nine eleven as an example of a car that did you consider Cetera a great driving experience. There's some other cars that or some others that may have kind of affected you. And what I several portions of I like to drive. You know I love to drive a came in which has just absolutely fantastic to drive as well but then I was touched to drive the Phantom defendthem is just such a isn't that sounds like solid yet light and sophisticated feeling. I had a chance of one time to drive the civil ghost I did you really. Yeah the nineteen seventy ghost. Yes I mean I I. Shouldn't say driver was passenger. Yeah but yet that was an experience and drove it from Sunning Day over Windsor Castle and passing Escott. And you know all these beautiful old trees left and right and the whole context and you sit so high up. He said so close together. You have your feet very fast yet. Your Post just upright the whole experience of how you sit is just something because then you feel justice cower this energy yet so smooth. It's absolutely clear where you're going on rails. It's confidence without what question isn't it amazing. I've talked to some old guys that are owners of the original silver ghosts and Obviously not that one. That's probably those valuable car in the world but of that model and they still regarded as one of the most perfectly built and engineered cars in the world. You you just can't find fault with them hundred and something years later Yes yes yes. And that's what gives me hope because it was really the first series car and they had a car before like but not serious like it was their first series. Men's to publish and yet yet it was the best car in the world right there were two startups back. Then right there were the were established rush companies and nobody knew before that rose would be the best kind of world four hundred ten years now so that gives hope the first cut of we did. I just talked about Outta here. The Rivera drives fantastically. And it's not easy to pull off against sophisticated and as deputy brands like Porsche and Mercedes and to get that feedback from professional drivers. And you know on this. You can rebuild because because you'd be talking about experience we talk are possibilities off love new drive trains and that you have more space and this and that but the driving experience always is very very very important you can still make your statement despite connectivity. An ecosystem of this is important but the driving experience is something very very important. Well I look forward to driving Rivero and obviously best of luck with with that as you move forward with that and with other new projects that will ensure care about in the very very near future awesome. Thank you so much thank you. Andreas Surfing Karma Automotive for joining us on cars that matter join us next time to start a new conversation about the passions that drivers and the passions we drive this episode of cars. That matter was hosted by Robert Ross produced by Chris Porter sound engineering by Michael Kennedy theme. Song by Celeste. And Eric Dick Edited by H H Moseley recorded. Kirk Rose Malibu podcast studios additional music and sound by Chris Porter. Our guest today was Andrius. Turner tune into cars matter matter wherever you rev up your podcast. I'm Robert Ross. Thanks for listening. Comb media media for your mind.

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Crew Show! (BMW M4 drive, McLaren Elva madness, RPM Act, Q&A!)

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Crew Show! (BMW M4 drive, McLaren Elva madness, RPM Act, Q&A!)

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Because frankly frank frankly andrew frankly because we still need to show for tomorrow. Thursday even though Yeah we don't have a guest so Thank you to The live folks. We're going to be joining us today. If you have things that she would like to talk about with us today by all means in the super chat. We drove the bmw four I put out the review of the mclaren elva which is out in road and track and videos up right now so if you wanna talk about details of the elva that i couldn't talk about because of the embargo sex face whatsapp. You made a face you may face. That is the face that happens when things go bad and We we talk about the elva. We can talk about Sabina schmitz unfortunately passed away. rest in peace Never met her. Strangely i met her mother Very odd assurances. Family owns the piston. Closer did you know that. I did not know that. Yes the piston. Closer is probably the most famous restaurant restaurants slash hotel at the nurburgring It's a very famous restaurant bar institution. It's an institution where racers hang out and we're racer stay And i've stayed there. And i've eaten at the restaurant a whole bunch of times. And then i and and I met sabina's mother and she was incredibly nice. And i told her i wouldn't amazing daughter. She had But serena was a g Strategy beating clarkson around the nerve agreeing. She drove a van he drove jackson. Yeah she's you know. That was the word. I do that time in a van and then all of a sudden and then she did go very close to it. I forget if she actually did if she didn't wait. It was second tech. I think it was under ten minutes or something and she was a ring. Taxi driver their first right and then racing driver taxi driver. I think she's the only woman Up until a certain point but maybe even since to win a twenty four hour race there and she did it two years in a row. Yeah i forget what years that was but But basically she. She grew up inside the nurburgring And became basically as legendary nurburgring driver as exists. Yeah You know i mean to know. Of course that is that difficult has that many corners in so many weather changes and everything you know. She was one of those rare people and You know all ninety six is the year that she was literally on the screen. Sorry thinking and you know I guess she had cancer. Yeah can't yeah fuck cancer indeed Fuck cancer indeed So that's that's the. Rip if any of you have a particular sabina schmitz memory if you ever went out in the ring taxi with her by all means let us know How that was in the super chat. I went in the ring taxi with a different person and it was still pretty fucking gnarly right. Erode Ron simmons and m three sedan. With ron simmons who owns Jesus it's ours are nurburg. I believe is the one he owns and he's out of his mind. is a fun lap to watch on my way in the wet and this dude didn't seem to give a fuck if he stuff the car. Not that was really. It wasn't just the confidence of this is going to be okay. It was really like even if we hit the wall. Like that's all right like he had more cars. Yeah he didn't seem to give it a fuck at all So Yeah and then And then the news came out today. in rhode road and track this morning. That remember member. Ben schenn's jim bala mirage stampede. In new york. Yeah very fucking drunkenly. Took out a bunch of cars and then tried to like run from the scene. Yeah yeah well. They dropped the charge. They dropped the charges. They dropped the charges charges. No do you. I know reckless. I the fact that the video exists that exists and that video is not enough to charge that person with with reckless with reckless just reckless. Yeah like can we get a very little bit of fuckin- responsibility put on humans who do very shitty things. Because there was an i remember. There's like an iphone bystander. Video where the car had already crashed once and then tried to drive away. Wheels were wiggling place in the back was gone. He was trying to stash the car right. This was right around the corner from the dudes crib. I knew i know where this dude lifts. He lives in the fucking worst building. His building is in the worst place. You could put an apartment building in new york city. It's right in the middle. It's right in the middle of its right next to the entrance. The lincoln tunnel. Oh even i know where that is. Yeah i've walked by the very tall skyscraper baller apartment building this. The accident was right outside of it and and to live there you have to either be willing to put up with or totally unaware of when you sign this. Lease the most nightmarish manhattan traffic available. Well every morning there's too little lanes that are trying to feed into lincoln tunnel right and it's like a u-turn that some cars and they have to make three rights around it's a fucking. It always looks like people are trying to detour around something and they just improvised this way to get to the tunnel. But that's every day. And the the and i only know this because friend. Nick lives in this building. And and when. I had to go park in the garage to get to nick's place mother fucker. You have to drive as if you're getting on the entrance to the garage is where the entrance of the tunnel is so you have no choice but to sit in this fucking traffic in words as if you're getting in the tunnel to park in the garage here it's a nightmare but it just bums me out that it just seems like we live in a world in general just this people with a lot of money. Right people with plo. They just no accountability. At all and i have no problem with people who buy expensive toys. I don't give a shit about buying expensive toys by all the expensive toys you one. It's when it's when it feels it's when it feels like you know you just getting you're getting away with shit or when you're rich and where you're using your wealth to bend policy so that you can get away with more things. It's more than just being like rich. We'll see if If the case is public domain. You know because. I'm sure you'll op nick or somebody will be watching for that and i it like. There isn't anything that's a good point. There might be a reason for dismissal. I don't know well in the article it said it. I believe it said lack of evidence which which is a or. They can't prove he was the driver. Like i don't. I don't understand how you like. I guess maybe they couldn't prove the initial crash wasn't an accident. I mean you know what. Actually my favorite thing is about this photo that you've got up on the screen right now. Which is the wrecked car. Is that the whole front bonnet was ripped off the car and the cover is just sitting in the trunk folded up though like the car covers just sitting in there like it would be you know like normally like if you keep your car covering the trump. So he's got no no this game abolish. The car covers statement front. It's a career. Gt underneath this dude. I mean this dude is like a habitual car wrecker like he wrecked aviran on. He wrecked immerse immersed. Csv he wreck day mclaren. Like this dude is on like like like major exotic car crash number five. It's pretty bad. Yeah it's pretty bad. Yeah we'll see. Hopefully it just says dismissed because of a lack of evidence against the charge. So maybe if they charge them. I don't know how you fucking i don't understand with all the evidence i just don't know if your lawyer in the comments comment because we are not and like don't know totally. I'm willing to admit that there might be something. I don't know their real. I know something. I don't know but like just that that video loan you know leaving the no charges for like leaving. The scene of a major accident no hit and run. You know what. I mean right leaving fucking hidden no hit and run smashed into so many cars and tried to get away leaving. The scene is literally a crime. I mean if he tries to run but the fact that the cars too fucked up to drive a half a block away and he has to abandon ship. Does that mean. oh. I didn't run navy. Just noushin over here Maybe your lawyer argues. Oh he wasn't running trying to remove vehicle from obstructing traffic and just trying to down the road or something like that just look. I'm sure some fucking facts. I hope i don't. I don't wanna say i'm sure i hope. I hope that we live in a world in which there is enough justice that i just don't have a very important in crucial fact about this case but i i just my gut tells me that. That's not how this fucking went down. I gotta ask. He would know he's upcoming. Would know sucker salt on this immediately. zach you were very intently checking looking at the screen. Is everything okay. No i was just seeing if anyone posted if anyone is a lawyer who is watching had posted a reason but no has right. I see a couple in the comments. Other people some people like are Are are saying. I got things that they got reckless for. Which are substantially less. You know what. I mean like you re you re you reckless for doing something. Pretty benign you could get a reckless for doing like. I have a friend of mine. Got a got charged with reckless for doing a launch control. Start from red light. It's not like he hit one hundred and fifty. He did a launch control. He went through like two gears and got a thank. God pulled over for reckless. Not not a speed gun and not exhibition out reckless wow. I've gotten a reckless for for doing thirty miles an hour over the speed limit which is okay. Yeah i you know it is what it is right. Where do you where you wanna draw the line but is doing eighty seven in a zone. That's reckless and ran. Not smashing up an entire block of art and then continuing in ewing down the road like how is that not reckless. Because you didn't have four lawyers. I guess no record four off the record. Maybe ben chen got off the record. We fucking plot twists. What if there's a plot to us. What if they're like shitting on dude and by the way he happened to have off the record as representation. I feel like that would put us in a very back. Wow you guys are really good. I don't know if we wanna be wearing. Yeah yeah that'd be weird off the record dot com slash. Tst if you know if you go on a wrecking spree of cars. I think they would probably find joel where they found him. Not lawyer that would be really. I think i think he had several. I think get several when you have you know. Council means is plural legal team. Yes you team right now. And there's a house counsel in the other councils that do you know what i mean. It's house counsel. That's the that's a council. That's a lawyer that only works for your family. If you're like that baller okay. Some that you had to be pretty pretty serious level baller to have any sort lawyer a card example car lawyer exactly. Should we talk about the bmw m. Four people saying that the road and track article had a lawyer analyze this. I mean there's a follow up article read I only saw the i. If there's a follow up we can check that out. But i i read. I looked at the first article Which was up early. This morning is their follow up. I don't know okay. We'll go check out a road and track. Check out the fault. If there's a follow up on notre The bmw m. Four right. yes right. Oh it's fucking ugly really really ugly car And i will play this game that i played in the video The new bmw m. four is Hundred pounds lighter and two and a half inches shorter but it has two point eight inches. More wheelbase is one point four inches wider and has eight more cubic feet of passenger volume. Then the two thousand six bmw m. six so we are now at a point where the m four is functionally the same size as the oldham. Six right it's a big. It is a big in and in fact right now having given back the for the day. I'm driving an x six m. I swear to god. The seats are closer together. The front past. Oh see together in the interior of the success. At least from the driver's seat forward is now identical to the interior of the m for this. They're the same. But i swear the enforce wider. Wow it feels. I'd have to look at the shoulder room. And i also think there's a little bit of a gap in between the seat and the door in the x six where that gap doesn't really exist. The m four stores are pushed back a little further out but You know the m four it it it. It drives kinda like you'd expect it to drive. I hate to say that but it's it's there weren't any surprises for me. Although i appreciate it our testers was a you can get in. I hate to say it but the manual pretty much defined the entire character of this car and without the stick it would have been very may am i wrong I mean it's it's it's fast in nimble and has a lot of grip so i think it sounded much better outside when you drive across the canyon. I was really really generally surprised how good it sounded. It sounded much more like aussie my car. The older inline sixes versus didn't have aggressive verbal. Two hundred wasn't muted. That actually sounds like a good and a inland. So i didn't i didn't hear is outside the shots Let's see. I think the weird thing about it for me is like you said it's an the m six was like the executive coupe. They make an eight series coupe anymore. So this was like you and you alone. Basically driving to work very quickly. This is the car for you. The m four has kind of taken that place because the ma is so expensive and discontinued. So i feel like those executive coops have always wanted to be a little character lists or kind of you from the outside world. So there's this weird balance where they're trying to sell to that market but also it has. It's supposed to be the brother to the m three which supposed to be exciting engaging. Yeah i just. I don't know if they're listening to customers. If you listened to a customer if you send the survey doesn't matter what car you're buying the customer will always say they want more room. Of course all right. That's why they knew three series the size of the older five series so every car gets. Yeah so you know the two series style the 'em to basically the size of the forty six m three right right and now this is basically the size of the six series that they were producing at the same time as the forty six three so everything has now moved up six Let's see. I wanna say it was like oh four to eight. Maybe four to five to ten five to ten sure. Okay for and that was for the east sixty-three gen yeah that's five to ten. That's the ten car so now look in fairness. Bmw has made a car. That is the same size as that. But as one hundred pounds lighter right and is shorter in the exterior dimensions. Bigger in the wheelbase which adds improves your stability right right. So you've got a more stable car that's lighter than it was ten years ago and it makes the same amount of power but with six cylinders instead of ten so it's not like progress hasn't been made progress has been made but it it basically i don't really see a real reason to get an m four because the mta to is just as fast functionally maybe maybe on some giant race track at daytona or something. The four might be a second faster something. Maybe and that's and that's a big maybe but like the ensues really just as fast is smaller and even more nimble rights more fun and it still hasn't usable. Its way way way. Better looking has real gauges not fully digital great. The gauges emptier grade. The day gauges in the m four are now the same as the rest of the lineup full digital which isn't bad in of itself but it definitely takes away a little of the specialness i think And it's really the only reason to get an four would be to have the bigger back seat space. But then you get the you'd get the m three right so i don't you know i. I don't really see where this car into door form is really supposed to go for is the only one you can get with the manual right. You can't get the and get three. You can get through with non-competition competition pag thirty horsepower but automatic only any also when it comes out with the all wheel drive version next year because both three and four will have optional. All wheel drive okay. It's still disable. But i'm but i'm saying you get it just two wheel drive. Yeah you'll be able to get it without that but to get a stick you had to get rear wheel drive base right. I wouldn't buy if i needed the back seat. I wouldn't get the extra m oh really. Yeah which looks better. i was still get the. Oh well no remember the front cover and the remember like it's only been two days if you've forgotten i did. I was hoping through. We look there. No you're right so functionally functionally. I would definitely get the through over the four because if you if you want the backseat room. I think there are people and these are the people that liked to buy the coupe version of an suv. Instead of the actual the activated by the instead of the x. Five will probably by the four instead of the m three because to them. There's a a style thing. And i think identity thing that says i want a big body coupe sedan for family people and whatever else it doesn't make sense to me because if you're news backseat use the have one with the rear door. Have a two-door. And i don't like it and i don't use my backseat because there is yeah me too every two door i've ever had with the backseat. I was like yeah paintings snoring. Yeah it is annoying. But i think we see enough m for is out and about and other You know big body coupes here. That people are going to buy it for that reason. I just don't agree with reason. Yeah i think it's weird. I think it it. It exists in a In a space where. It doesn't add that much rear seat room compared to like the two series Actually now i think about it might have more of your seat room than the eight series because the eight is like kind of got these big barcalounger seats. I don't remember having that big of a backseat. I'd have to look up baxter. Really know but i. I either way if you really want it back. Seat use frequently. I wouldn't get the coupe of any of them. The the hard thing is is people will be at the tour because more stylish except now it's not a so how the x three is the best looking one the two series m. two m two extra the next best. I get a c. Sixty three yeah that or get sixty three coupe sport. What's that. I don't even know what that it would not driven one. I wouldn't cheaper. Yeah but Yeah here's the positives. The ordered the power band. I the last for better more progressive. That twenty five hundred. Rpm burnout that you in the last one right. It's much more progressive. We good yeah. That's very good with more. It's four seventy-three power by the torque is four six right so much more power instead of these huge punch of torque which is really good The area under the torque and power curve is actually. There's more area under that curve than with the coyote v. Eight in the mustang. Gt so that if you and that's a real a really effective way to measure power is not just the peak number but that area under the curve uh square footage and That's the way to measure usable. Power has got very wide power. Ben and the the manual gear ratios. I think i is a little bit short but Especially if you're not like if you're launching it in like winding i to red line is not that short. If you're just driving around the city you know. I don't know about you guys but when i when i drive a manual around the city i don't typically like wine i gear out to like redline i gear you know three or four thousand rpm and then i'm out at that speed. It feels a little quick feels. Like out of i a little fast. It's like eight miles an hour or two a little real small and with a turbo engine and a wide power band. You could lengthen. That first gear give you know you're you're you're zero to sixty times already in the trash can because the manual compared to one still really fast but compared to the manual. It's compared to the automatic. Like anyone who cares about zero to sixty at this point is going to buy the auto. It's fast that's true. It's like middle threes. Yeah these are what the came should have of course because we were actually shifting between two and three on what was a fairly a pretty tight wrote and even a little fourth fourth. Yeah came in this road. You would have been second paul talking. This is probably the best of a bmw. That i can remember same as the last two i drove. I mean it's the great six-speed they haven't added a seventh gear or anything so Theo's turned in smart pm's on the highway. The highway fuel economy is not optimized. No but you know three. I think it's not that great. It's pretty low. Yeah but it's But look god bless. Bmw for continuing the manual The car felt built really well. Tight and whatever amazing sounds zach was talking to on the outside. It sounds pleasant on the inside. Don't get me wrong. it's not. It's not a bad sound by any means. And it may be electrically augmented a little bit but the the sound that you're getting when you're driving is a pleasant one It's just it's a bit of it's a bit in the middle you know Which is actually okay. Because the ma didn't have a lot of feel it was just so fast so fast and engage yeah and it was like a gravity defying kind of thing the to really has the agility and the and the feel. This is somewhere in the middle. Yeah i mean that's what the m three has always been been do everything kind of car. The the thing is the two can do a lot. Because it's it's a size that is still usable. I mean forty six is pretty good size. Well being too big too small. No i don't think so the two is. Just it doesn't have the same opulent feel at the four does especially if you get the right interior colors. M four has a lot of good bright worthy. It's got an orange. That was a little aggressive. But it's showing you. Hey you can customize optional seats that ours didn't look like sneaker. The blue bright green tea. The seats are those aggressive. Yeah that us That right now has basically the same seats that the forehead but they have massage function built. Really wow pretty good. Yeah this things. Okay this x. six i just. I've only driven it fifteen miles so i don't wanna get too far into it but it's definitely the original kube suv I haven't driven one since the first gen car. It hasn't gotten better looking. I mean actually. The first one is actually i look back on the first gen-x six now is as actually being charmingly conservative. You know it was really this. One is now gotten kind of bulbous and We'll because they're doing more styling and angles on everything. I think they're trying to get more air in the front. You know and i actually it just the newest one That i m. I thought was not great looking but i don't think it's gotten better Having said that so far it drives you know like you would like you would expect it to drive. It's very nice and rides well and noisy fast loud fast really cool color the color of it cool purple. It's like a like a plum like a wine. A wine plum. It's very nice color. I have one on the. I did a one take of like at twenty seventeen. Had a tune on it. Yeah it was. It was so fun because it's like fifty four hundred pounds wisest thing turning as well as it is same thing with all big. Suv's but like they really doing a good job of helping you carry some seriously scary speed corners. You start timing laps and you realize the things really really fast superfan strange set up that high and do that though. Yeah and this one's the competition the one x six m For the spec series. Yeah i think the word competition doesn't work very well for this one doesn't work very well for any of up there. I m has there s there s exactly with competition. yeah exactly. I'm sure it meant something at some point. It doesn't anymore you know. It's all marketing words really but we will have a video about that Yeah yeah And in fact. I think i might have. I think we have another car like a couple of days and we might be shooting to at the duke. Hoti right do khadi. Yeah but i think also mclaren coming. I think this is six twenty are coming. I like this is a good surprise. This is okay. This is better than any pinata kid. All right But the m four. I mean now that it's gone. I'm not like ooh. I wish i had a few more days with that. It's kind of like all right. You know Somebody put up a video One of the british guys ego one of them drag race against base nine to carreira career. Which i think we discussed in our really did the carreira houses. It really houses it wow. Pdk versus the new eight. I think it was the auto okay. Wow yeah i think than the career really did a number on it. Yeah i bet it hooked up better because the rates you know if you're if you you know i bet i bet four one is about what that car the may or a bmw's a little more Accurate right whereas porsche really really sandbags. Wow yeah yeah the different experiences but you know it's impressive right I think if you're getting the three week we were driving was one hundred thousand dollars. A competition you know did have frozen paint which was thirty five hundred bucks and it did have ceramic brakes which were eighty one hundred bucks but And then because of the brakes you that had to get the The niger million tires But it wasn't. It didn't seem like it was ridiculously optioned. I mean i guess actually kind of started a lot of carbon seventy one thousand dollars realistically get one for the low high seventies or low eighties. That's still had some good stuff. If you got a base one added the m performance driver pack. Yeah like if you're if you're someone like us and that's what you want from it and you know the steel breaks will do a really good job with pads. Fluid keep the eighteenth and nineteenth. So that you don't smash wheels up. Andy reid better and put good tires on. I mean pretty potent automobile. Just i couldn't look. I couldn't look at it. It's really ugly. Really as i was driving it around The ugliest part is the nose. And so when you're when you're driving it especially like in venice. The streets are where i live. The streets are are are kind of narrow and there's a lot of like single single vehicles passing each other oncoming at low speeds. And i could see people especially people in other enthusiast cars point or they'd look up and go. That's the new one. And i could literally see the disgust. Come over their face they were. They were visibly from another car. Visibly repulsed by the styling of the gave like like. Oh like oh that's the oh you is it. That's the new. Oh jesus they've ruined that. Yeah it's it's and it's i haven't seen a color oh well black black hides it blackout. Black does help. Black hides in a lot black combined with actually putting a number plate. European number plate on the front is about the best. You could do. It is roy. Reed reviewed a black and three and from the front. It does look a lot better. And you can kind of appreciate the the wide fenders on it. And i think the lights looked pretty cool but Other colors the best. Frank stephenson guy he Designed the first x five like he worked for bmw and he has a channel all about car design and he analyzes this thing does a really good job of it and he's just like i don't understand how it got this way people keep saying to me china. There's designed for china. I have been parroted that to a couple of people. But i've done no research about whether or not. The chinese approach want beaver teeth on their. Bmw's i i have no idea. I know the chinese like buick inexplicably Probably because of what it stood for in the fucking fifties or sixties but but This i just don't get yeah. I don't know he. He did a real good job of trying to be supportive but just wondering why a couple of big decisions were made and he's qualified to do so which is good. I mean you know it needs a lot of air like a lot of these vents are cooling. lots of. There's so many raiders in. This car was like four but other cars also have lots and lots of radios in lots of cooling needs. So it was. It was just drive to for to get over looking like that. I how good would it have to drive to you to to not see that front anymore. I don't think it could be that good. I like i put a lot of weight into how a car looks over. How it performs other things You know that's you don't get to how it performs if you don't like how it looks right. I mean you know. And i walk out and look at it i just i know what i'm driving when i'm looking when when i am i mean it's really it's important to me so this couldn't do i've gotten over it. Civic type. r civic type r drives really drives well enough that i am pretty much over how it looks like. I don't. it's not my preferred styling. Certainly but it drives well enough. That i would be like you know what i'll deal with it. I'll concede that my my reaction to the civic type before driving. It was why. And now i look at it and my first association is with what good a car is like. That's a really really good car at doing everything so that but in this case it's not really good at doing everything it doesn't it doesn't have the doing is really affirmed. My civic type r much better steering field. The shifting in the m four was good but the The new auto is not supposed to be as good as the dc who haven't driven it. But i drove the. It's not a driven it in the other car In the the. It's not exactly the same but i drove it in the m five And i drove it in the. I'm driving it right now. In the we drove it in the x three. It's the same auto know as an auto box. It's not exciting enough to overcome. What i see when i go out to the car park right right. Yeah so watch video. It should be a monday probably monday. Yeah monday monday Ono telluride monday. Wednesday and for telluride is a car. I missed when i returned it really. I did not comfortable because comfortable and looked really nice inside and i was like what you get for the money you know it was a good value. Really really big for my like i. I'm the last person that needs three row suv. But i was like this. I like this thing. Like every weight operates excellent excellent. Should we go to the people. Because i don't have anything else on my list. I'm driving do khadi multi strada v. For this week. I'm writing it I had i had one trip. A may i. I've written around. I wrote it. Downtown to trade craft for the re up Yesterday by the way. I tried their new. Thc they have created gone benakka It's called i did not. It's called moods and it's m. o. O. d. s. with two outs like over both os. And i'm like are you guys doing like a dose thing with a hint of motley crue. And they're like oh man. Were you in our meeting. And i was like okay They gave me some of the prototypes. It's very interesting But i wrote the The do coty Multi strada v forbes their adventure touring bike Like there bmw or there. Something like that It's a big engine. It's a hundred and seventy horsepower. It has adaptive suspension. So cool has adaptive cruise control and it has a no lift shift on the on the gearbox going up so once you use the clutch to take off the line and then you just hold steady throttle and up shift. You still use the clutch. That downshift i think if you were mobbing you could probably not like if you were like on the brakes. You could probably downshift without the clutch easily as well. But for smoothness. I recommend downshifting with the clutch but up shift no clutch which is very wow Tech in this thing lot attack. I mean the screen is ridiculous kilos. Start like it's a. It's got a fob like it's got kilos entry it's more it's more tech than like i really want. I think but. I like how much information i get on the display The is actually Sorry yours ninety. Four ninety two pound feet hundred seventy horsepower. Two hundred and fifteen kilograms dry and It has it doesn't have the nabis on it. It's got like a more street tire on now but it was. It was so windy the other day like when it was blowing a gale. I wrote it in. that ride. leaned over know it. I've never been any bike And granted. I don't believe i rode the gs in these types of conditions. But i haven't been any other bike. That was that stable in that big of a wind. Wow it was it was. It really stayed nice and calm and upright and didn't get blown around very much at all and it was really smooth and very considering how tall it is. I mean it's a lot of area for and it's one hundred and seventy it's a fuck low power. I mean it's really fast but you can you know you. Just you can short shifted. It's seven or eight instead of twelve by the way And you can short shift it and it's totally manageable. Nice flat torque curve. We're going to make a video. I need to do a lot more riding. And it's it's a. It's a bigger taller bike heavier than i've ridden in a while. So i need to go out tomorrow and really doing a full canyon day with it just because i think it's the most powerful motorcycle i've ever ridden one seventy power lot It's it's a lot of power and and It's also the heaviest bike. I've ridden in some time I haven't had trouble with it yet. And i've been lane splitting and stuff but like i i don't feel like i can hustle it and but i feel like i have a full day. I i could probably do all right. Yeah those are the tires that are on it right now. really comfortable you know. I accidentally forgot my boots. When i brought it home i wrote it in sneakers. I don't recommend that i. I've been wearing boots since but mike. You know my you know some motorcycles you try to shift it with the sneaker on it like tears up the top. Your foot yeah. It's a really sharp. You know thing. It's like badly. I go the the royal enfield. I couldn't ride in even hiking boots. It was like so sharp. This sneakers no problem again. I do not like riding a motorcycle and sneakers ever long distance. Touring bike do adaptive cruise control. I haven't had the balls to try that yet. It's amazing look at the tank and like engineering. How big that is compared to the wheel. It's the profile. We're looking at the profile of bike and it looks like someone took the back half of kind of a normal adventure dirt bike and then the attached it to a different motorcycle that they hit increased by two hundred percent in size. Just the portions look in this side profile shot. The front of it really looks very bird like does angry. Fucking bird coming to us. I wanna hear downstairs because every do coty sounds on these downstairs in my house. I'm sorry sound good and sounds good but if you heard the homeys do coty downstairs i have not the golly and the fucking titanium exhaust on it Thing is crazy. So that's the that's the crazy version of this engine. This engine is so powerful in the in the multi. Strada and yet i can tell that. It's a like super de tuned. Like i can tell that this thing is really meant to be much crazier than this. And they've really toned it down mclaren planet. It's the same in dude in this dude's fucking panic downstairs this thing. Two hundred and forty horsepower. It's been and it's so crazy sounding It seems like the one i've got is and by the way i don't want to write a penny. Golly they offered me some crazy shit with two hundred and twenty horsepower. And i was like no. I'm good i don't you to twenty no thanks. You put any good civic sl from the ninety s and you're moving. I think the ultimate bike into car engine swap is actually the bmw k sixteen hundred. The one point six liter in line six that is in. Bmw's touring bike mode. You put that in. Oh dude it. Be kick ass in a fucking suzuki cappuccino or something. Yeah i made great. Yeah it would fit. I think it's little little. Yeah or or even a miata like it would be be cool in a fucking miata. I you know. If i had all the money i would do. Coty coty engine in a miata and it wouldn't work that much but it'd be great. I mean that's six hundred was one of the best cars i've ever driven. Yeah fuck ruled all right. We got a bucket question. should we cut it off. Do not add more questions because we'll be here all day Kurt wants to know i. We're gonna time yup. I had to move my trainer. I got a new trainer. Shutout to hawk. Yes that is his real name and is very he he got he you and basically everybody else in southern california got a pandemic puppy and pandemic puppy same ages tucker very cute nala very well behaved. It's always a treat to have come over with him But had to bump him because of our technical bullsh- so much technical problem Kurt wants to know what's the better by for daily use. Wrx or new twenty twenty. One corolla i mean a daily you know how important is carplay. Yeah how important is you know heated seats. You know how commute like also how important is it. Is it to to have a brand new car sent. You know what. I mean. Obviously a wrx of pretty much any generation will outperform this corolla On the other hand A bra brand new corolla that you take care of from new is a very known quantity whereas whereas any use wrx heavily unknown quantity. They almost always need A head gasket at hundred thousand miles boxer engine. So that's just the thing you have to plan for right. So so what is the definition of better by. Does that mean you are unwilling to get this car off the road to have it maintained you know more. I don't know. I don't really know i mean what your life like i. Do you live in snowy place. Do you commute on a really twisty road all the time. And if you're just sitting in traffic and just doing having a normal life. I'd rather have the corolla because it's super comfortable at rides really well and has all the tech but i wouldn't wanna stick you You get auto if you're doing a comedian. But then you know would you get the excess with the auto do care. I'd buy the mazda three thousand dollars price if it is it is. Yeah that's true. Yeah more. I think the question is would you get the hatch of the corolla or would you get. The sedan is that he has more trunk. Trunk room yeah. A little bit of interest oguz longer. Yeah i know. I mean in general like it's a known quantity. We know what a wrx offers. That a corolla excess. He does not offer. The girl is not that fun. It's just it's it's a stick which is nice. It has nice features. It's a pretty good value. But it's not like it's a superfund car. It's kind of a whatever car. Yeah so take of that what you will Nba is frenchie. Wants the update on cricket. My new kitten we adopted from the peter zippy fund and by the way For any of you. Who are listening the episode. We did when conrad. My my old man passed away And we raised some money for the peter zippy fund. A lot of folks have gone back and heard that episode later continued to donate and i really appreciate anyone who donated to them. Because they're they're really good. People do awesome. It's it's really hard for them because they can't have people come in right now because of cove. It's like a lot of like At home fostering and logistics. And it's a pain in the ass so we found this cat. Cricket adopted their two brothers her two brothers and left her behind and really hard for black cats to get adopted. People don't like adopting black cats and so because people always kind of left at the end and either. They're superstitious also hard photograph. They're not very good for instagram. It's hard it's really tough photograph. A black cat But we saw this little girl with her a little milk. Mustache crickets got a little milk mustache. And she's got unevenly white toes cool like some of our toes are white and some of her toes are black. It's really weird. The technically tuxedo to domestic short hair. Tuxedo cat She's three months old. It took me and hannah a week. You know we did the full. Traditional integration process. You start them in separate rooms than you do. The site swapping with articles of clothing and blankets. You get all their sent so you get a blanket with cricket said and then you bring it into their space to get shit with their said you bring it into her space you do that back and forth and then you sort of you do treats on either side of the door their side of the door and then you sites swap with the cats and that's where you would block block the cats off and allow her to explore their space and allow them to explore her space and and then you you have them playing together like in other sections of a room you know and then you get the moving closer together and so on the seventh day we removed all barriers and everything and the cats are fully fully integrated and coa and they all like finn and and nikki Actually play with her like they're like shit. Yeah they're teaching her like how to be a cat. Well it's fucking awesome but only a week. That's not the first four days we were like out. This works out because there's a lot of hissing. In hindsight i think the hissing was because the closed doors. Not i mean there would be some hissing anyway with a new cat but his things not that. It's not as bad as it sounds. Hissing is good. Actually because it's just assertion of dominance and stuff that or also like get away from me if they're if they're not hissing but they're like ears or like this and then there might be like a flight. We had zero fights. That's good catfight. Real caffeine's terrifying pico. Crickets still hasn't figured out that you can't really play with pico. Peco's are sixteen year old girl fourth cat and she's very sweet cat but she's not she's not taking no shit and she doesn't She doesn't want to play with the with cricket. So of cricket comes up to pico. shall fucking bopper on the face and his sadder and then outta here curriculum off my lawn. Yeah wearing learn how to be a cat. Louis korea says if i ever considered getting a watch case. Laser welded for really deep. Dings so what he's talking about is if you really take a gouge out of a watch they can late laser welded where they will literally put metal back polish it down and and it repairs the watch case I have seen watches where this has been done. And if you get a reputable shop to do it it's fine and it really does make the watch look pretty much like it's also they use laser welding to fake stuff. Sometimes to improve the condition of the a watch has been polished a bunch of times. They're literally taking off material and so they'll add three d. printing. Almost yeah almost. Yeah yeah basically In my opinion just my personal watches. I like a patina. I have no problem with the watch. Getting scratched and i even have no problem with the watch getting a decent size nick on it On the case. And i've never damaged case badly enough to say i need to get this fixed I buy watches new or new ish. I don't buy vintage watches. I by a by modern watches. And they're pretty tough. I don't really treat them very well. I smack them into stuff. All the time i i don't really i don't really protect them When they're on my wrist And i like a patina. So that doesn't bother me but it's i've heard of the process. It's very cool. Yeah i'd recommend if if it seems interesting look up some videos of it. It's pretty wild. It's an it's another way that That they that they fake. They don't entirely fake but they They fake originality by restore. It's so good that you could. Wow you know a really trained person would be able to tell but you could pass it off on your average collector and they might not know the you know the question is if someone has a deep thing and they repaired to the point where no one can really tell that it was repaired. Then it's also like okay doesn't have the original metal but if you can't see a difference than here's where it makes a difference if you did that and then kept the watch kept wearing it and then sold it down the road eventually. It would just be part of the story of the watch. What i'm talking about is people that do it. In order to present the watch as being better preserved than it really was. Okay that's right. Yeah origene watches. Cars ridge analogy right. Yeah wide is this shiny porsche. Were worth more than this shiny porsche. Well because that one's numbers match and because that one has all the bedroom blah and you know does the driver care. No driver doesn't care. The collector cares same thing with watching the engine monopoly. Do you like yes has new pistons but it works perfectly well. Why don't buy vintage big with watches. The because it's a really easy to fake all different kinds of things that really can affect the value of watch. I mean i paid that dude to fake age. My saco paid him the same to fake age rolex and then i could go to some place and try and sell. This thing is being fake aged. You know what i mean. It wasn't very expensive. One hundred dollars and a banged up watch and have it repaired itself and i paid the due to fake age. My basil. I did it for fun. I tell everybody it's fake. It's on a seiko. Who gives a shit but there's people that fake age the basil's on rolexes and they sell it at a ghosted vessel. Which is what you call when that black becomes a faded gray. You know a ghost. Basil watch is worth a fucking ton of money. That's crazy and you could fake agent pretty easily and it takes. It would take a real expert to spot. That had been fake aged. A regular customer. Wouldn't know if you buy it on the internet from someone you would not be able to tell metal. It's you know and a question of if no one can tell it's fake aged and people when you're buying a watch what that that ghost vessel if. It's a natural ghosted basil. What you're looking for is the ghosted color right so a faded color but with no nicks scratches want. That tells you is. This watch was used outdoors. possibly Possibly underwater but not smacked into anything carefully but in the right conditions to produce these unique colors that you only get from natural aging. It never fell off. Its chase lounge. I have an older rolex that i got before we started the smoke tire that i wore every day. From two thousand eight to two thousand in sixteen. We were filming the desert. I'm going in the ocean. And that watch has a naturally ghosted. It's green but a naturally ghosted vessel. Course i was not as good as i should have been so it also has a couple of nicks and scratches in it which brings down the value right. If it was perfectly unscratched ghosted green it would be worth a fuck on of money. So i mean i'm talking double a fuck. Donald money naturally provable. a ghost green basil right now would probably be a forty thousand dollar watch crazy. It's so weird that people want a warm thing more than the new thing when you're buying the story but it will but but yeah you're buying this watch going. That's different no no. It's not exactly the same. it's exactly the same. What is the story of going. That's been driven around and raised around for decades to me is very different than i wore this watch outside a lot. Well and then. I wore it outside some more. And now you person by two different skill though we're talking about five versus hundreds of thousands or millions to me. It just seems like an aesthetic choice. It's just i like the way they look when they're faded more like and it's hard to fade. It takes a lotta time right so you know you have baked it in the oven care about the story not really but sometimes i wanted to buy one of anthony more watch. That's that's was the story right. They sold for a ten x multiplier of what they were worth because of of the story right because of who owns right but that story if you can't prove it was anthony ordains or someone else's specific story. The next best thing is a ghosted. Fay a uniform aging right but without a bunch of scratches so yeah outdoors. You underwater used as intended but kept. Well you know so anyway. That's how that works. It's pretty much the same for cars. I mean the best case scenario with a car right is unrestored maintained. well loved. that's that's as many original parts finishes possible you know. That's that's the best case scenario. Same for a watch se okay. But it's easy. It's way easier to fake that shit in a watch. Os ways here We're in felt says Should i get a jail. see memo. Vox alarm watch. Jay or do recommend the jail see memo. Fox's a mechanical alarm watch. it's really cool. You set the alarm. It has a separate winder you wind up a separate thing and you set the time he goes and if you're wearing it you know you actually feel it vibrating on your wrist. It's a very good looking watch. It comes in a bunch of different faces and stuff and they are very cool. Watch nerd shit. I bought hannah the cheaper version of this. Which is called the saco bell matic You know a jail. Meme of oxford probably talking. Eight seven thousand dollars. I mean it's a beautiful beautiful piece. Saco bell matic g. for vintage saco. Bill matic jail memo. Vox is the jam so you can see the little white hand. They're the extra hand. That's that's your alarm hand. That's cool very cool piece I do recommend you should. You should absolutely by one of those sir. Can we show a vlad wants to know. How does the elva ride off road. Yes oh in the elva video. I did i. You notice that in the in the video you. I don't think you edited that carefully because you might have taken out if you saw it. But i dipped a wheel in a little bit of gravel alva- video while i was trying to adjust the stupid. Ams thing shit answer good. The answer was good rods. Good it could have been bad. But it wasn't i recovered but it actually shows in my opinion. That incident shows that distracted driving could be more dangerous than bad driving. I'm a pretty good driver. I'm skilled but it's very hard to see this button. And so for that long. I had to do this to see the button and that was long enough for me to put a wheel in a little bit. Grab if you're moving even thirty miles an hour. I was going really second. Yeah still pretty. Yeah so there you go Chappie says if either of you driven a career and really got on it. I've got on it. I drove one Once briefly it was an incredibly enjoyable and memorable experience But i was driving it in pretty local town roads back on the east coast and so i didn't really get to get on it now. If you've got one you wanna let me get on. It hit him up kevin's Oh yeah thanks kevin for your donation. lock ship brought up. Okay so the epa thing right. I been reading other people's posts about it. So i guess there's a law There's a bill. The epa is trying to ban the conversion of streetcars race. Cars and i thought this bill came up a couple years ago and was struck down. I think version of it was The bottom line is i guess. They're trying to get people to sign the petition. Go sign the petition I i i. I can't imagine this this will pass. I mean it's it's a really anti grass-roots motor sport type of bill. It's not really an it's targeted at race. Cars even more so than streetcars From what. I gather find a creative way to stop auto racing period like no. We can't convert a streetcar to a race car to buy stop companies from selling aftermarket like parts that change the emissions of a car at all right. So that's one that's one way they're trying to do it. Yeah 'cause i guess. Yeah like they. 'cause because i guess the right now it'll says road use only try. You saw a right. I think they want them to not be able to sell that stuff at all. Gotcha without the with. I think they're trying to close the track. Use only loophole. So they're doing it. I instead of saying you can't sell parts that say this let you just can't convert a car to a race car correct. So then yeah. That's that's really terrible. It's terrible because it's not like they're trying to inch in. It's not like they're saying we're going to go to a german to move styles. Tv style system. Where every car gets these these crazy safety checks. You know what i mean. It's not. They're not saying federally that we're going to implement a state of standards for the road for this for safety. They're not saying that they're just. They're literally just trying to find a way to close the aftermath of that stuff but but banning you from converting a carter race racecar. It's just such. It's such a large blanket. Just a huge thing to stop to get you know a piece of it and you ended. It would involve like killing an entire industry. That employs a lot of people I mean the the aftermarket industry employs a lot of people right. I mean and and you know what what what then. Where do you want those people to do Yes oh definitely definitely dig out the The epa Rpm the rpm rpm. Act i believe it is zack. Will find Zach find it. But and if i got any detail of it wrong. I'm sorry i can't always get all of this right. i'm trying to get the spirit of it right And you should definitely work work. Oh sima dot. Org is a great place to start. Okay recognizing the protection of motor sports. Act go to school down on this just a little bit. Let's just read. Here's here's the top pattern from the same a- website protect your right to race. The epa is really tell congress to pass the rpm act now and stop the epa from destroying motorsports. Your member of congress needs to hear from you now This is saying that street vehicles cars trucks and motorcycles cannot be converted into race. Cars according epa If you have signed a petition for this in the past you need to sign the new petition again and yeah we should We should do this. Zach keep this keep this up as soon as we finish this show We are going to sign this and everyone should go do it as well we. We'll put the put the link to this in the video description so it should be real easy. Remember zack is gonna make a note right now. So that when we put this show up later We can We can have a link right there. Yeah that's fucking bullshit. Lewis says who treats new car customer new customers. Worst for dealers or rolex eighties definitely rolex. Adi's it doesn't help that rolex doesn't have any fucking product to sell right now. Rolexes pro production Last year twenty twenty was like i think twenty percent of its normal thing but they have A survey came out. Rolex has twenty five percent of the swiss watch industry one brand unbelievable What is next maistre. Says there's been a lack of smoking fryer lately. Is this because of my move to a new house or is it permanent. No it's because i can go outside. I don't have to stay at home and not work. I did a lot of recipes. The smoking firoz doing recipes on instagram. I haven't Come up with a whole bunch of new recipes To share The smoking fryer. The i really i should do. I have to make chef carl's Matzo ball soup. It's passover coming up. And so i'm gonna make chef carl's soup. I will do a smoking. fryer on. Chef carl's ball soup. Which is the best matsu soup ever. And it's really hard to make It's i for a dish that ends up being a bowl of soup with a couple of things in it. It's fucking serious. Dish to intern. Takes hours and hours. And it uses every single dish in your kitchen Brennan wants to know how much i crapped my pants. When i saw the cop in the sheer on. I knew that i had white privilege and that would get me out and off the record. Yeah no actually. I did i i. I thought i might have to do an off the record spot here if that was actually happening but yeah i think it's what's important takeaway from seeing from the cop in the share video is that i choose when and where i film videos ninety nine percent of the time and if you see where i am and if you see the pace that i'm able to calmly maintain that typically means that i've chosen very wisely a good place you don't see a lot of cars. I don't have to pull off and wait for people all the time. I don't have to do anything. Stupid on the road boo gotti and again bless their hearts. And thank you for letting me go in. The sharon and i wasn't going to make beggars be be choosers. there They made me drive it in the middle of the day as opposed to first light. When i like to drive and they also gave me three hours roundtrip from beverly hills. So that's not long enough to go to the place. I like to go Distance wise or time wise. And it's not the right time of day to film. When i so the fact that you saw a police officer in that video is only because i was not allowed to make that video at the time and place of my choosing and i had to do it at the time place of their choosing nevertheless it was still fun video and i still have off the record and i still have white privilege Yeah we'll k. says considering a cayman s for a weekend car. Oh can i reasonably dr one for two years with five to ten k. In depreciation and maintenance are there better cars for thirty k. I would say if the is already done in the car. If you that's a confident thing and you've got a good car with good service history yeah. Five to ten k in two years is a great cushion. It's a good came in cushion right. Wow that's a that's a healthy amount of money. A pretty big mechanical. Fuck up for ten k. yeah. I'm just realizing how much car you can get for that money. That's thirty k. Yeah rate that's real. That's a first gen. The second came in as a lot more than the first gen but still. It's very good car and thirty not that much money for now to be in a great great handling porsche right. That'll that'll still nice. Yeah i've that's awesome. Are there better cars for thirty. I mean thirty or deepened. A corvette territory. Yeah corps get for you can get see six or z. Fit or a c. Zero six pretty good for that. Now you can get a nice see six problem possibly even a c. Six grand sport in the thirties. You're in a weird place for bmw's because you're either you're either getting a very nice e- forty six but came in is track a lot better car or you're getting a really cheap In ninety two. Which never you need the same. You might even need more than the ten k. Came that's a lot of good car for a look at nine. Nine six is also. I mean nine nine six one hundred thirty sway for thirty two park ligament has one and he was like what is happening. Why are these now thirty. Th i think it was a bridge it was like a blue tan interior manual for like thirty three thousand dollars cheaper than that. But i think i mean you know i think as the as the market for brand new affordable you know fun. Coupes dries up You know the the nice examples of the stuff that's left will be we'll have value. Yeah mine's available for fifty thousand Ding bat twenty. One says i of a. I just had a baby. Congratulations i'm getting rid of my two thousand sixteen mustang. Gt is a used. Julia two point. Oh t as unreliable as read. it says. The used prices looked really enticing. I don't know man consumer reports you gotta go with the consumer reports angle on something like that we don't we just don't follow up. Yeah on the reliability ratings of individual models in general alpha and fiat are not known for being reliable. I mean they just start. If you ask jonny lieberman. I think his is fine. He's got a newer new one right. I think yes so. Everything we know is is anecdotal. I think has a friend who got the two liter and he's like his was fine. It's the quad that was having big problems right but what we don't know if the two point does will last you know three years four or five. Six of you're taking it up used That's more of a gamble to one of our friends. Buying a brand new one. Yeah I just don't know i'm sorry. But congratulations on the baby. I do recommend consumer reports like the you know they do pretty good surveys about reliability and stuff like that you get one month subscription or whatever yeah fi your mom probably has a subscription someone. Someone is a generation older than you and your family probably a subscription julius so gorgeous but this is an interesting one parker. She'll merrick Thoughts on the rusty peeling paint near the rear badge on the elvis so the viewers saw this. I didn't do you have. I believe it's three minutes Ten seconds or so into the into the elva video We show the rear grille and it does appear that some paint is peeling now. I i shot the walk around I don't remember if it was before. Or after i did the drive. The truth is. I didn't notice this when i had the car and i don't know if it's rust or if it's just dirt And i don't know if Yeah i i honest it does look like the paint is peeling off of the The the that sort of back Grill thing above the license plate goes And is just pulling up the video right now. It's like three like three minutes ten seconds or something like that and we can take a look. But i don't know i what i need to do is call alex. Who was the still photographer for the shoot and see if he's got photos because he shot he shot a bunch of that grill after i finished my shot my whole video before he showed up. Yes so Play that play that right there in his high equality is it will us ten eighty sixty And can you send it over to the to the show it. It looks like but if you look at it from here from this far. I can't see it but keep it. Keep go frame by frame so right there. Yeah if you once you zoom in it definitely yeah. It definitely looks like paint chipped off now. This is a section that is right in between tied to titanium exhaust pipes. So that's about. I mean that's got to be the hottest place in the whole car per. Yeah that's that's dealing with a lot a lot of heat. But i gotta give a shout out to the viewers though because i did not notice this when i shot it And i'll have to ask alex if he's got any photos from afterwards And i didn't notice it. I didn't notice it when i pick the car up from mclaren. Didn't notice when. I shot it when i brought the car back. It was dark and But no i don't i don't I don't know this. This car was the very first one. Okay so it's not. It wasn't like rough But every single thing on it outside of the powertrain is henry is handmade. You know what. I mean and So if you know if the paint on this thing field. I would not see that as an indicator l look has not perfect right. Mclaren's got quality issues documented with their customer cars. Okay and they are what they are. They're glass like fucking shatters. Like weird weird stuff happens when you push the limits of engineering in cars. You know what i mean and small volumes and make all your own parts and blood. Debbie about this happening in this car. I would not see as indicative like they're going to be like ho shit. Our paint is peeling right. We're going to have to make this thing out of something else or we're going to have to pain on somebody else like. They're not just going to let customer cars go like that you. This is what they learn in the testing. They're not idiots. Yes you know. Yeah for sure But it's a great. It's a great spot by the viewers. I did not see it at the time. So i i don't know i don't know it's Yeah it looks like it's just been there for a bit so it probably appeal the longtime ago. And it's there you see other sections where the paints cracking and it and it cracks less and less actually as you get closer to the exhaust pipes so vibration meets heat. Whatever but i'm sure they're gonna see this and go. Well we're not going to let the other two million dollar cars. Go you know deal with that. Yeah this was definitely a pre production prototype. Chassis numbers zero zero guys. Making there titanium be really cheap so anyway if you haven't seen the video yet go check it out The car is bananas. So nuts Ray lee says speaking of gt four gear. Ratios how much can i talk about. The demand motorsport modify. Gd four or do we have to wait until the haggerty video comes out. I'm gonna have to go with part b. My haggerty show premieres april first week in april j. f. said the edits are coming along. Great but i don't want to scoop myself on the podcast. I will as these episodes come out on haggerty's channel i'm happy to comment on them here but Yeah i can't scoop myself that's the thing. Yeah you don't wanna do that. Brendan brendan fitness. And money. says why don't more people drive. Ariel atoms cater rooms and other extremely open and lightweight cars if they are so engaging to drive the the answer brandon is because at what cost dot com that engagement I drove ariel atom. First came out. It rained that this was the wrong car. Then drove a cater them in the uk and having to get in and out of it three or four times two shots. I determined that was the wrong car as well. A caterer fucking terrible vehicle i mean. It's terrible the exciting but for the wrong reasons. Yeah it's exciting because you're going to die. Oh i think exciting to drive. But it doesn't mean that you want to have one all the time frequently. I preferred the morgan. Plus four to any cater. I've ever driven no. They have the same kind of vibe when where the front of the car and the back of the car are two completely different cars right. 'cause it's more exciting the the Morgan's much more of a cruiser. But it was a wonderful experience. I enjoyed the morgan more. Yeah the the cater was just. It was too much. I'm trying to be a race car. But if i was on a race track i would totally want something more substantial than that you know. Why don't more people drive them. I mean with comp requires so much you gotta give a lot he got. You got like no trunk. You got no fucking roof doors and come up in my pant suit driving the atom. I mean you can get very close to that level of engagement and have a fucking roof and doors right. Bodywork is good. Yeah bodyworks good thing. Yeah and if you're nuts. I look there's folks who fucking mob around atoms every day a couple of them. I've seen them. I've met guys driving atoms. And they tell me they drive them all the time. And if that's your thing like fucking by an atom no-one said not to but but adam you you're committing to being exposed to the sun being having no doors. You can't leave anything in the car if if you if you don't mind getting stolen because there are literally doors windows are trunk road anywhere so you have to deal with all of that stuff to seats that i had in mind. We're like plastic with a little bit of rubber on them. They're not super comfortable. I mean they're exciting but they're not inexpensive. No they're fucking early seventy to one hundred thousand dollars. You're in lotus territory and lotus gives you that kind of phys. It gives you a car around right. Yeah yeah and these. Things are very cool their unique experiences. But i've never walked away from a test drive a car like that being like. Yeah i'm the guy for this. You know you live fitch says Wait okay jesus. I i think he's saying what's the best value in versatility in sports cars. The example is that zero six gives you muscle car sports car and gt car. You hit the nail on the head. He lied the best value in sports. Car motoring is a corvette. Yeah because that can be used every day. A corvette commuted the race track. A corvette can be taken on a road trip. A corvette you know. A corvette is a regular car. When you want it to be or it could be a supercar if you want it to be that And there are so many of them that they are. They're cheap and they're the they're the kings of bang for your buck if you are not concerned with Quality in term not quality in terms of durability powertrain quality in terms of fit and finish and materials. You know young me was all about the performance. I used to fucking bragged to my friends. When i had my corvette that i can put four golf bags trunk. And then it was faster than their mp three faster than their nine eleven zero sixty four five and blah blah blah and all his as to quote all the stats and then i started driving a lot of porsches and other european cars and i determined that beyond a certain level of performance. What i actually care about is that the car doesn't rattle every time i a pothole you know. And and that Things aren't made of like cheap plastic and that's just my priority list but as far as objectively flexible sports cars that are good value. Nothing beats corbett nothing. What else we got a lot right. Holy fuck boy. We have too many. We have too many many time Let's go to the most interesting ones. Is that a good idea. speed round speed around the answer around ten seconds. Calvin says i hall bikes kayaks people. I'm too short for suv. Refraction don't like cbt's. I'm looking at used volvo. V sixty s at thirty k. Thirty thousand dollar wagons used a six wagons a seven. You got a seven wagon I like to be sixty a lot if its cpo. I don't know my my family has not had problems with them. Had a v sixty and it was. It was a fine car. I didn't drive as good as the rear wheel. Drive based stuff but it was a nice comfortable easy. Carter put lots of miles on a great seats alternatives. A three series wagon three in easel vinnie. Sweet tell what other what does an outback have a cvt. Is that the problem. I don't know. I haven't i haven't looked at a i haven't looked at any regular ass cars and fucking years i have no idea with last how beck i drove had six five hundred dollars power. you get like a used Five cells touring with the sport. Cross was called sorry. Oh the gulf. The lifted golf's for wagons. I would still rather have the volvo. Though i think it i think it drives better way longer than ten seconds. Moving on shannon says eighty thousand dollar budget. Do you buy one car. Like a nine eleven. That does everything or two cars one for fun like in a lease and one practical for everyday use. I am more of the two car mantra Because my use i like to cover all my use cases where possible. I also like to have different experiences. Where possible but your space. Your insurance costs you know. Do a room in your life for two cars to rein in its budget. Things like that where the roads like. Yeah but i. I'm a in california in new york. I could probably have fewer cars. Because where i was living in the suburbs. You know a sporty. A sporty car for driving everyday errands on winding roads was lovely now here in the grid. We live in the grid. So i want one numb egg. The monitor's went down to show to go down to the monitor. This monitor I want one. You're broadcasting questions You know one egg and then one very engaging sports car ryan says. I'm trying to find matt Manual e forty-six three thirties. And it's been a nightmare. I want to for forty eight thousand dollars but at that point i'm close to three prices. You are definitely not an eight thousand dollars forty-six three or even ten or twelve thousand dollars. Forty-six needs fifteen thousand dollars of things minimum. Yeah don't do that. Do not buy you have no idea. How expensive cheapie. Forty six and three is four to eight grand Well looking for forty six. Three thirty three thirty get a sedan three thirty sedan or three. Twenty eight yeah. Three thirties are great. I mean or get a three three twenty eight. There's very spec in spec e forty-six you can run a twenty eight or thirty. It's not like an enormous difference at this point. Yeah lovely engine heath looking. I would definitely looking at go further away. But i mean that cheap. You're not yeah. I mean you shouldn't be in your through prices. No they're threes. You're gonna find your terrible finding look for sedans. Let's nice cars. But i mean four to eight thousand really cheap. It's dan you'll you'll find something much better. I think. I mean you could probably find something more interesting. You're probably like you get like a forty eight grand camaro not a lot of money. It's not really not a lot of money especially for an e forty-six with the the bigger motor. It's not like he's talking about twenty three or twenty five or you know. I would look for twenty five start there and modify it yeah Chris says i just bought an e. Thirty six m three. It's my first quote fast car there. You go Also italian bike. Engines are poor quality assurance. Oh okay thank you chris Gravity drift. What's going on in the la car seen this weekend. I have absolutely no idea usual. Cars and coffee stuff i think. Well malibu shut down I know i've absolutely no idea. I went to that gunther thing last weekend and look at this. This was cool. They gave me They gave me this carbon Form it's like a gunther works but made of of of actual carbon tickets tinted blue light. It's cool. I got to put some like Some little feed on it so it sits on the table next man off it's dope there's a cool place. Dank waffles fucking dank but god dammit huntington where a fucking mask i was. That was shameful. The low amount of mask wearing even in the indoors was like twenty five thirty percent compared to like ninety percent. Malibu fucking shameful where are we at Do that's there you go. Andy wants to know your experience with the new m for mean. The nine x platform is the best value. If you want an experience That's an interesting question. I'll tell you what my experience with the new m three. May i am for made me think that enthusiasts should buy and hold e v eight powered cars And really nice e forty six's as well because Yeah you 'cause 'cause because reasons because after a certain point being faster doesn't make much of a difference anymore looking good and sounding good. Make more of a difference. Yeah i think Yeah although zach says the before sounds better so we'll have to wait and sound and And listen to the video. I wasn't there. I was inside the car Eric wants to know. When i take a trip to california next year is wchs open just to look around please email us Either through our contact us form on the website or info at w. dot com. We give a private tours by appointment. We're not just open to walk in. We keep the doors locked and things like that. But if you'd like to make an appointment to come for a tour when you're in town even if you are not planning to be a customer We can arrange that. So just email info at wchs dot com or fill out the contact us Thing on the on the website. Wc dot com penultimate. He wants to know thoughts on the saco. Six one three nine specifically the severe severe no francois's severe formula one driver pass away. Watkins glen In nineteen seventy three. Maybe francois cevert had A seiko that he was famously photographed Ring and it's the one with the blue dial it's A gupta click the the the league on top of the special the script spelling you put the s at the end of his name. the severe. that's that's the one the blue dial. That's that guy right there. Yeah so francois. Severe was well known for wearing a seiko. There's a picture of him some photos of him wearing it. Some period photos there I love the saco. Six one three nine. It is an immensely immensely collectible. Watch probably the most collectible of Vintage seko's this was the first Craff ever and The goal dial one is called the pogue. There you go up there the colonel pogue so much fucking thing on ebay for jeez. Wow so these things have shot up about three years ago. These watches were five hundred bucks. Well about two years ago it would cost you about Oh jesus i don't know maybe fifteen hundred so the problem with these is. there are so many. Fakes shouldn't have glass on the back covering the movement Yeah it might. It might need replacing the ono. I'm sorry the case back has been removed from that what it doesn't have glass that it has a solid case back but he's been removed to show that it's my movement because because fraud is incredibly rampant in the vintage saco industry. If you i love the ever. And i love the pogue. I prefer that pogue. The yellow dial actually is fire. That's a fuck gotta pogue Must've must've rocks a polk and it's named after colonel pogue who took one to space this this watch this is. The master is not the only watch that's been to space The pug was but the sibert is also very popular. It's the blue dial. It's a beautiful watch but just like the pogue. Fraud is fucking rampant. So even though ebays got their authenticity guarantee right. now i would not just by Pogue or a severe from a random on the internet. I my recommendation is nick at. Dc vintage watches. I if if you are in america and you want a really good saco he's your fucking guy on a vintage saco. He's the guy. I would go to for one of these things but a severity cost ya a real one will cost you a fake one. Maybe not so much. Maybe you don't give a shit maybe. Don't care if it's fake but You know we had this discussion earlier. It's like it if you want the style you know but it's like how do you feel when the guy who knows the difference is see you know what i mean That's that's all the questions we've got a lot of what i'm gonna do a show with aerial from a blog to watch Aerial adams. i just did. His podcast The number of questions. We're getting about watches. I think deserves a single watch exclusive episodes to watch episode all. We'll we'll go deep into the Deep into the watches. If we if you got a question in at the very end we didn't get to it. Zach is right now as we speak copying and pasting them for our next q and a show. Thank you offer your your good questions for the live. People andrew frankel The shit show. That was this morning. He'll be back tomorrow Hopefully we will have technical issues sorted out by then And i don't know what time it is what time will be back to Eleven am pacific okay. Eleven pacific And that episode will be up later as well and then we may. I don't want to say. I don't jinx but we may have a very special podcast guest coming in on friday. I'm not really sure yet. But because it's been very tough schedule it's been a serious cable fucking ping pong the scheduling but Thank you to everybody for listening. We appreciate all of you. Share the smoking. Tug tire podcast. It's fucking free cr later.

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