20 Episode results for "Autry"
The Shack, Part 2
"The word of truth so we can worship God in spirit and truth deepening our knowledge of God thereby enabling us to deepen our love welcome to where we are studying to show ourselves approved rightly autry of course worshipping false gods is idolatry course bowing down to idols is physically idols but ultimately the era about God and leading people to think wrongly about God ends up creating a God that does not exist and then when people bow down and worship and pray to the room idolatry is much broader than that it's not just essentials worshipping a false God it is idolatry can is also thinking wrongly about the one in yours doing well and I want to thank you for joining me for today's installment of the program we continue our discussion today of the sack that image or that idea of God as they perceive him they're committing the cinema daltry because they're actually worshiping and praying to and thinking about God in a way that he has not but in terms of of the way in which the shack commits the error of idolatry in promotes a form of idolatry Young does it the book doesn't the movie does all right Jim well let's kind of dive into theology year the portrayal of God in the Shack Papa is it in by means of portraying God as he is not so for instance if I'm trying to say something that is true about God I'm trying to describe God or misrepresenting the one true God or worshipping the one true God in a false ways is way of committing the sin of either Bowing down worshipping or making anything else preeminent over God is idolatry whenever I value something that is not God as if it is God that's idolatry the trinity or the person of Jesus and I describe it wrongly if I portray God wrongly I'm doing God a grave injustice committing high treason against him because I'm speaking undoubtedly probably probably no one listening to this program would go to see shack or any kind of edification I would not think if you're listening to this program for any length of time in a way that is not in keeping with how he has revealed himself in scripture and in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ and so their worship then becomes ill informed at best then Jesus Papas a female of black the black woman Jesus is a Middle Eastern man young man trees much broader in that idolatry is not as God not having the first place in my life not loving God with all my heart soul mind and strength is a violation of that I commend you're probably not the target audience a hope I don't think so but you have friends you have family members of CO workers who have read the book in lately misinformed and Heretical and idolatrous at worse because they're actually worshiping God is they perceive him to be if they are perceiving him wrongly it is not what we typically isolate idolatry to me that is bowing down to some idol carved out of wood or stone or or precious metal that sits on our mantle and Are Living My Pastor Jim Osmond and I went to see the other day in the movie theater and we want to discuss that and hopefully help equip you worshipping a false God the only way we can worship got truly is if we are worshipping him as he has revealed in scripture in spirit and in truth not in spirit and I by some critics as idolatry so maybe before we get into the Trinitaria issues what does idolatry idolatry is the movie so we want kind of equip you to be able to be ready to engage and is the Bible says give be ready to give an answer for the hope that is within us Dan Psoriasis was an Asian woman but the portrayal of of the God head the Trinity in the movie has been describe portray God in the in the book and the movie Howie Wanted God to come across people was trying to formulate my idea of God I cannot make this up you can't make this all these I looked in the mirror he said I looked in the mirror because because he said I know I'm creating a gun however we want to perceive God in fact in some research in this came across a statement from William Paul Young he said when he was trying to decide how to up to the strongest of starts I would say in his in his book of course your listeners should automatically be able to identify the problem with that is that yes we are created in the image of God we are not photocopies of gut so there there are ways in which we bear a similarity to God we bear the image of God we are image bearers but we are not photocopies carbon so you can see God through us and in us things about God there are ways in which we we model that imaging display that image but we are broken vessels where the copies of who got is and most significantly we are marred by sin we're fallen and broken we are we are broken mirrors that bear the image of God the image of God is marred in us because of what Adam did not appear reflection of who God is no no he shares with us some of his what we call it that God is not one person but he is one being who one God in three persons where is the actually has he actually has a described God in a way that is very much like him as it was we'll see later on in how he talks about even so I looked in the mirror to that's how he formulated his idea of God my looking in the mirror you couldn't that Irish so thick you can cut it with an idea not God the father is a person God the Sun as a person God the Holy Spirit is a person one being in three persons in three persons in e each of the three persons is within himself God Very God God fully God we were just talking before we started forty it's impossible you cannot every analogy you try to come up with to try to describe the Trinity Breaks Down It's not is the what is portrayed in the movie the the Trinity Now we know from scripture that God is a Triune God we refer to the Tri Unity of God or the Triune God hit Qabail attributes that we have in in part he possesses perfection but we don't possess his incommunicable attributes of the gets an a hole and what young uh Gods God's Love God's Justice God's righteousness God's Power God's strength etc let's start about let's start talking about held William William how young is trying to do in a sense very rough sense what is undoable you cannot accurately it's not water vapor and liquid it's not a three leaf clover it's not an egg all these cube with three dimensions with Rita minute yeah so all of those right now but you begin to try and portray the relationship between the trinity on screen or in a book other than simply describing it if you try to illustrate it trying to affirm something Trinitaria Christians would affirm that is that we have three separate persons who are called God when Mac walks into the shack and sees papa in space time doesn't do it water in three separate stages doesn't do when God says in the in the Old Testament who is all three persons father son Ho spirit are self conscious egos they're aware of themselves and they are aware of each other they can have conversations with each other the father can speak to the sun the sun can speak to the and here that and say a he's a rock-solid Trinitaria and that's what I needed to hear as you know I've been told by my pastor that we defend the Deity of Christ Jesus is very very aspira Sarah Sarai you and Jesus all there in that room together at one point all three of them say I am right awesome. We saw his glories of the only begotten of the Father Full of grace and truth that that would they would affirm this sounds like rock solid orthodoxy to them but but the minute like me yet to whom you compare me he he was not challenging us to come up with a clever illustration for his nature the only answer that has nothing there is nothing in time so you try to describe how that works out you're going to slip into some kind of heresy that's why I always tell people there are no analogies for the Trinity Egg doesn't do it myspace there was nothing in our experience nothing we have ever since seen that is anything like God in his nature is fullness so the only thing we can affirm is that Trinitaria issues of that that we see in the in the shack well young seems young seems intent on trying to all of them together say that individually and in unison and then one of the characters and it was it happened too quickly for me to catch which was said I am that I am and Bother Holy Spirit can speak to both of them they can they each have a will they each are able to fellowship and love one another love of the father for the sons affirmative scripture opposite scripture again and and so you know all three of these characters the the father figure Holy Spirit figure the Christ figure God Jesus has gotten human flesh in the beginning was the word the words is with God the word was God he was in the beginning with God he made all things all things created through him and that word became flash dwelt among them all a firm that they are the im so that your allusion to trend -tarian isn't probably the closest the whole of the closest thing yeah and it almost as if at a lot of Christians a Trinidadian error or heresy kinda known as a tri-partyism tri-partyism in it is the idea that in Jesus is a third of God and the Holy Spirit as a third of God traded training our finite minds can't even fully comprehend eternity but we believe in it because scripture teaches but describe for us some of the Sunday father's affirmative scripture so each of these persons interact with one another and yet they share fully in the one being substance that has got there is an the father's a third of God and you only have all God when you have all of them together in the same place and that is an error that's a heresy if I have the person of Christ standing here with us in here's God is possessed by the father at the same time possessed by the sun and at the same time possessed by the Holy Spirit they don't share that nature or that being and a person of Christ and the same would be true with the Holy Spirit and with the father the father is fully God and all that is God all the being substance in essence that so one of the errors of the shack is though he tries to affirm some sort of a Trinidadian confession one of the errors is the idea that you can these three don't draw on it that doesn't wax and wane as no point where they're more or less part of that being they are awful in at one God and yet there are three separate and distinct persons picture of the eyes of God the strong outstretched arm Godspeed it but these are what we call it's what we literally possesses Abbadi grandfather does not have a body in the Holy Spirit does not have a body only the second person of the Trinity God the Son has ran biblically only one of them took upon himself human flesh God the father will we know from the Bible God's Got His light got his love had or is young communicating some sort of trite theism as if they are three guys they are all the im and their three separate and distinct IAMs the anthropomorphized language trying to describe God portray him in a way that we at some level can relate to humans but that does not mean that God this room we have all that is God in the person of Christ he is fully God and there is no more to the being of God that can that would exist outside Gordon distinct persons all claiming to be God so it said then is it tri-partyism where you have three parts to this one guy persons all sorts of exist separate from one another because they can be in separate places and of course there's the idea of the in shock there is the problem that these three persons all have bodies we have no concept of final authority among us only unity and so in the in the movie here's a quote from the book in the Book Papa says quote we have no concept army certainly in the book there's no sense that there's any hierarchical role now we have to be careful here because one person who appears in three modes or three appearances so that God is one person who in the Old Testament came onto the scene and spokane appeared as the father today at in the movie but it's abundantly clear in the book that there is no hierarchy in the God head Nine and they use that all see Jesus is not God because the Father God the father is greater than he is needed a brand new heresy that up to this point I don't know anybody ever really come up with before because it's it's not strict mode Eliza because we one of the favourite arguments of the JOE's witnesses one of their pretexts is John Chapter Fourteen Verse Twenty Eight in which Jesus says the father is greater than concerned and to say that it's radical it is not a strict Trinidadian approach to got William Paul Young has been successful in in the sense that he is apparently create role in so even though each member of the Trinity is God Very God fully God there is the higher father and the son you know dancing the father and the spirit dancing together at one point you have them talking to one another so it's not strictly a motor Listrik orcullo structure talk to us a little bit about that in how the the movie goes against the the the hierarchical structure the proper context that Jesus talking about the different differentiation not in substance not in nature in essence but rather in in the in the
Nov 15, 2019
"Hello and welcome to sword and scale daily I your host ride Williams. It's Friday November fifteen and this. This is your daily true crime report coming up. On sort and scale daily a school shooting in Santa Clarita California leaves to students dead and five injured a Texas jury sentences Amanda Death for the double murder of his roommate and his roommate. Seventeen year. Old Girlfriend finally law enforcement in California released new video evidence and Yacht Kober kidnapping and murder of Indian American tech CEO. Autrey all this and more coming up on Sword Award and scaled daily. A school shooting eating occurred Thursday morning in Santa Clarita California per the L. A. Times police and emergency units responded to seven thirty eight. Am Nine one. One call at Saugus August highschool and discovered six mood students in the high school quad initial reports from KABC identified the gunman as a male Asian student wearing all black black an officer told ABC. Seven news that a surveillance video exist which shows the suspect pulling semi automatic handgun from his backpack shooting five other students before shooting himself in the head. The weapon has been identified as a forty five caliber gun with a six chamber capacity and law enforcement believes the shooter her new. He was down to his final bullet when he turned the gun on himself. The five victims and the wounded shooter were transported to a nearby hospital. Two of the wounded ended a fourteen year old boy and a sixteen year. Old Girl have died in the hospital. The surviving victims are identified as a fourteen year old boy and two girls aged fifteen and and sixteen there have been contradictory reports about a third victim dying. The suspect is also in the hospital and his condition is grave. He is in police custody. Neighbors and anonymous police sources have identified the gunman as Nathaniel Borough. Who turned sixteen on Thursday neighbors and friends were in disbelief? The boy who many described as nice and quiet may have committed such an atrocity a neighbor told the La Times that nathaniel was in scouting in track and was a very very kind sweet boy. Eight and Soto. A fellow student is Saugus high. Who Neubert Hal? From the boy scouts. And from the track team describe Nathaniel as someone he quote really looked up to police with the help of the FBI are going over the suspects computers and social media to try and understand the motive of this crime. One possible contributing factor is the fairly recent death of Nathaniel. Birdhouse father Mark Mark Barau died in December of two thousand seventeen of a heart attack. He is said to have been an avid hunter who kept weapons and manufactured his own homemade bullets we will keep you updated as the story develops in other other news a Texas jury since thirty year. Old Hector costo `Hada to death this week for the gruesome murders of his roommate. twenty-six-year-old Eric's Eliah Elias. Seventeen year old girlfriend iris. Torino's during the trial the prosecution laid out how `Hada who goes by the street name L.. chiloe shot the victim's mutilated delays body and buried both in the backyard of Arlington home per the Fort Worth Star telegram investigation into into the murders began on September. Second when a passer-by found a decapitated head on a walking trail near the. At and T.. Stadium in Arlington. A sign was posted near the head with the writing. Let us Sarah spot e fault on quattro meaning. Roughly you must respect the race and four are left. Medical Examiners determine the head to have been removed by a blade similar to a machete later that same day. Police arrested eighteen year old Marianna Sanchez on an outstanding outstanding warrant. And he told them he knew about a man who had been murdered in an Arlington home he gave the murderers name is Hector L.. Shola and said he only knew the victim victim as L.. Blow Sanchez told police he owed. Oh Hey the money and this is why. He visited his home on the day of the murder. He said he arrived to see. Oh Hey Barry. El Diablo's decapitated body the following day. Arlington police searched the home where the alleged murder happened and found a machete blood and an area area of recently disturbed earth in the backyard. Careful excavation uncovered two bodies male and female that identified as belonging to Eric Celaya. And his girlfriend Irish Torino's who dropped out of high school in April of this year July and had been friends for years and lived with each other on and off at several different addresses. SES both victims had been shot multiple times. So allies body was mutilated. But Iris's body was intact. Sanchez was arrested for the murders murders and a manhunt began for Hector. Oheka who was caught five days later in Fort Worth eventually. Murder Charges Against Sanchez were dropped but he is charged with tampering hampering with evidence in relation with the crime during the trial prosecutors asserted that Hector oh Haiti shot his friend. Eric Allied to death in his sleep and then shot Irish Drina multiple times. The motive for the murder was according to the prosecution revenge on Zelaya for having taken part in a drive by shooting on. Oh Haidar's residents residents a year earlier in the sentencing phase. The defense asked the jury to take into consideration the extremely violent environment that Oh Hato was born into as well as the past brain injury and spare his life however prosecutors presented evidence that Oh `Hada who boasts a tattoo reading Almaz Odhiambo or the most just hatred on his right arm had bragged about being a hit man for a Mexican cartel Owada also tried to start a drug trafficking ring in jail while he was awaiting trial the Dallas News quoted prosecutor. Tim Rogers as saying Omega is not a product of a bad environment. He is the bad element in his environment. That's who he is and who he wants to be on February fifteenth two thousand eighteen while awaiting trial for the murders of Zelaya and Torino's Omega was indicted in another murder which police say is connected to the double murder in Arlington in October. Two thousand seventeen three months after his relatives reported him missing the body of thirty four four year old Tristan Ray L. Gene was discovered cut in half buried in the foundation of a Fort Worth home. Police believe that Algerian went to the address where his body Eddie was discovered intending to buy drugs from `Hada who lived there at the time I'll gene did not realize that the drug deal was only a ruse to rob him in Ohio was lying in in wait with accomplices. Including Zelaya and Torino's police say that after forcing Al Jean to hand over his eighty MPN. Irish Reno's and Eric Zelaya went went to a nearby machine to withdraw money from AL genes account only to discover. The pen did not work. When they return and told Oh `Hada he murdered tristen elgin and buried him in the foundation under the bedroom because his remains were encased in concrete? His body took months to identify. Omega was convicted for the murders of the lion tree knows on November fifth and sentenced to death on November thirteenth. He's still awaiting trial on the murder of trysts and Al Jean after the break. The Santa Cruz Sheriff's office releases. Lisa's video of three suspects the October first kidnapping and homicide of tax. CEO Now for our final final story. The Santa Cruz shares office is asking for the public's assistance in identifying three suspects in the kidnapping and homicide of fifty year old to Shahr Autrey. The CEO of Web Design and marketing firm Autry Net. Too Short Autrey was kidnapped from his oceanfront. Home on pleasure point drive in the early the morning hours of October first and forced into an SUV registered. Autry girlfriend blood left at the scene revealed to Shahr tried to fight off his attackers. The Santa Cruz Sheriff's Office has not released details on how the kidnapper entered Autry home around ten. Am the same day the SUV was discovered parked on another. The property. Autry owned about ten miles away in the Santa Cruz Mountains Autry. His body was inside of the car in autopsy determined. The cause of death was a gunshot wound and the manner of death was homicide. Police say the crime was carried out by multiple assailants and the motive was robbery but if not shared what was taken to shars girlfriend. Rachel Emily who lives in Massachusetts has been cleared of any involvement nonetheless. It is believed that a second person was in Autry House. When he was kidnapped napped autry was born in New York City and graduated from New York University in one thousand nine hundred eighty two? He had lived in pleasure point for the past twenty years and moved into this palatial oceanfront home. Two years ago in Nineteen ninety-six Autry founded his first High Tech Company auction net which has served many large the bay area corporations including Hewlett Packard Vera sign and Lsi logic however more recently autry his ventured into the legal cannabis business us with the Santa Cruz. Based Dispensary and delivery service named interstitial systems. This has led to some speculation from neighbors and friends that the kidnapping was connected with the cannabis cannabis business a friend who had asked to remain anonymous told. KP Five Autry made a lot of enemies over business deals grant Palmer the CEO CEO of another Santa Cruz Dispensary told SP W that autry was quote unfamiliar with how you know. There are legal. Black market elements in the cannabis industry. You and if you don't pay them bad things happen. The investigation is looking into this possibility but have not set officially that the kidnapping and homicide were related to arteries cannabis. Hannah's business this kind of crime is not typical of the legal cannabis industry. And there's some evidence to suggest autry may have made some enemies and other areas of his life. Neighbors have anonymously told W reporters that autry was involved in illicit activities and they expect US secrets to come out in the open now. GLASSDOOR DOT COM. Hiring website has a number of scathing reviews of autry net posted by former employees. It is important to remember that. This is not an unbiased source however over the complaints spanning from two thousand fourteen to two thousand nineteen repeat similar themes someone identifying as the show. Autry Net has posted responses answers to several of them in his responses. The CEO does not dispute the accounts given by former employees but rather calls them thin skinned among the issues brought up in. The reviews are non payment of wages and an abusive work environment. A two thousand and sixteen reviews simply states quote. I think to Shahr Autrey is the worst first person I've ever met in my life and I wouldn't wish my worst enemy to work for him. One from two thousand fourteen advises the reader to quote check with the Labor Board of California. -fornia he has multiple complaints filed against them. Interestingly the final review on glassdoor was posted on October second two thousand nineteen the day after after autry was kidnapped and shot to death. This post reads quote. I felt unsafe when in the presence up to par as he would stock employees and make lengthy inquiries priest about their personal lives. He screams abuse at employees. A twenty five thousand dollar reward was offered for information leading to arrests in this case it has now been raise to one hundred and fifty thousand yesterday. The Santa Cruz Sheriff's Office released new evidence in the case to the media in hopes the public could offer lead in the investigation. The footage shows three men walking out of an alley on a pleasure point drive at Autry address. One man is holding Duffel bag and another holds a rifle if anyone recognizes checking nuys. The suspects or has other information regarding this crime. They are urged to call the Santa Cruz. Sheriff's Department at eight three one four five four seven six three five live well. That's it for today. We'll see you next week and until then stay safe. The sword and scale daily is an incongruity media production. Your host was Ryan Williams Research and writing by Hagar Barack executive producer. Mike Day if you like to show subscribe and leave us a review. 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Peering over 'The Brink' with Steve Bannon
"From the Mon broadcast center KPCC. This is the frame. I'm Steven Cuevas sitting in for John horn on today's show. The Autry museum is selling the historic southwest museum property in mount Washington. And then Allison claims documentary the prank if some insight into Steve Bannon's political strategy in the United States and more recently in Europe. He's promising people stuff he plays politics. He's telling people things are bad the elites have done it to you. I have the answers and an LA theater company. Examines our political landscape challenges playwrights with this question. What matters now all that coming up on the frame? The Autry museum of the American west today announced its plans to sell the southwest museum of the American Indian which was taken over by the Autry in a two thousand three merger the sale of a twelve acre property does not include the museums vast collection of native American ceramics, baskets, tapestries and much much more some four hundred thousand objects in total the Autry says it spent some twenty million dollars on renovations and preservation at the south west campus. But now it says the museum is too expensive to restore to a level. Suitable to showcase it's priceless collection. The museums been largely closed to the public for several years earlier today, I spoke with the trees president and CEO Richard west a citizen of the Cheyenne tribe of Oklahoma. And he began by telling me about the one hundred year plus history of the southwest and his own personal connection to the place. It was originally opened in nineteen o seven but that was downtown or in Los Angeles had moved to the Highland. Area probably about seven years after that and opened in nineteen fourteen and it is an institution which honestly omos from the beginning struggle financially. I think within twenty years the museum was already facing financial challenges, and it sort of did for the rest of the twentieth century. And and we're trying to resolve down the twenty first century. I've been very personal connection simply because I'm native, and I saw them use him when I was a child visiting from Oklahoma where I was growing up and seeing the collection and even at a Joe less than ten I think I was sort of looking at those shelves and the Caracol tower and seeing all those ceramics basically held on the shelf by wire, and realizing that this was this was an institution in some distress from that point, but it is such a significant collection, as you know, my other history in the museum field is the national museum. But the. American indian. Yes. And this collection is of the very same rank in terms of pure quality. Now shifting over to the Autry for a second. So when was the Autry created, and what was the intention behind it? What was the mission statement? The Audrey was created and opened in nineteen eighty eight and it was it's gone by several different names. But I think that the current name is really the one that is most apt if the Autry museum of the American west and that fits quite perfectly with our mission statement, which is really to try to tell to interpret to represent on a very inclusive basis all the stories of the American west. And honestly, I think that it was the arrival of the southwest Biesen collection as an integrated part of the Autry collections that made it much easier for the Autry to live by its mission. And not that it's exclusively choice. Between cowboy America and native America. Right. But certainly if you have native America in the picture you were beginning to operate on a far more inclusive basis. So today, the Autry museum, formerly announced it's looking for a new owner for the southwest museum welcomes through this. If you could Mr. west what happened and how did we get here? Upon my arrival in two thousand thirteen the situation with respect him out Washington and Highland Park. And the museum was still sort of a in it lacked resolution, I made it my goal to try to make sure that we emerged from that. And that we did a couple of things first of all that we honored are obligate with respect to the collection under the merger agreement to protect and conserve that collection. The second was that we wanted to respect the legacy of site, and whether it actually occurred there we wanted to maintain a community kind of Titi. And then to figure out a way that we could could put things together in a manner that allowed for that place to be sustainable now. Just to clarify, though, we're talking about a sale that would be the property the buildings and so forth, not the collection itself. This would not affect the collection. No, not affect ownership of the collections. Okay. What I would say is we want to be sure that the the Autry has a future role here too. And I think that that's what the local community much prefers. And that is what I prefer. But we very much would like to contemplate programming that doesn't the presence of collections over there. But as open to very wide and more flexible agenda in that regard. Remember that Highland Park is probably one of the most artists rich sections of the city at this point in terms of. Contemporary artists that are working in that very locale. We'd like to figure out a way to draw them into it. The Autry as you may also know entered into a very important collaborative of agreement with lack, but I can see opportunities for collaborations with other arts and culture institutions which could be programmed in a way that they have impact even or our expression at that side as well as here at the Autry and the main campus in Griffith park. So it is it is all of those things if I understand, right? Most of the southwest museum's collection is now being cared for and housed in facility in Burbank, where will the collection ultimately end up or do you even know let me point this out the facility in Burbank is actually constructed in a way that it is much more quasi-public than collections buildings in the past been it is now a much more integrated part. Art of our programming here and even our public programming here. I want to be very careful. In fact, I actually discourage my my staff and colleagues here from ever referring to that space as a storage area. Okay is not simply a storage area. And so that is one possibility, but I'm also saying that that collection will be on display here at the Griffith, park campus, and Mary may vary. Well in the future beyond display in parts at the oh southwest museum side, Rick west junior is president and CEO of the Autry museum of the American west in Los Angeles. Mr. west, it was a real pleasure to speak to you again. Thank you. Thank you so much. Coming up on the frame new documentary about Steve Bannon shines light on his controversial strategy. This is the frame. I'm Steven Cuevas. John horn is away today. Thanks for joining us for claimants first feature documentary IWay never saw she followed. The Chinese dissident artist for three years. Her new film. The brink focuses on another dissident of sorts one with a very different and some say, white nationalist worldview. Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon claiming spent thirteen months with Bannon beginning after he left the White House in August of two thousand seventeen and right on up through the twenty eight teen midterm elections taking verite fly on the wall kind of approach free of narration or talking heads claimed his there when Bannon forms and organization to raise money and promote what he calls economic nationalism in America. And she's there when he meets with far right politicians and activists in Europe were hoping to win seats in upcoming parliamentary elections claiming stop by the frame studios recently to talk with John horn about the brink. She had an answer for a question. She gets pretty often. Why would I? Spend ninety minutes with Steve Bannon. He's someone that was instrumental in getting Trump elected president, and he engages with a lot of the forces that I think for worse are shaping our world. And rather than you know, I don't know that you need to spend time with him listening to him give his stump speech for ninety minutes. But I think watching him and action is really important. I think that we have to take Bannon very seriously. I'm using we now, but you know, if you disagree with Bannon and his ilk, I think you need to take them very seriously. But I think that they're beatable and those two go hand in hand, and the reason that you have to take them seriously because they're not going to beat themselves. But they are beatable in the sense that there are people there are alternative policies that are trying to help citizens. We have to talk about real problems in the world because otherwise this hateful view gets to own. You know, real talk about problems regardless of. People think about Steve Bannon's politics, I think everybody would agree that he is a very good salesman. And he's figured out a way to tell a story about the thing that he is selling in what I will call very acceptable ways. And what are you selling is a brand of racism, and his Lama phobia, you spent a lot of time with him. What did you notice about the way he ingratiates himself with people who are listening to him that could be journalists that could be politicians what is cactus? He's really good. At retail politics gets the importance of spending time face to face. There's no crowd to bigger frankly too small, you know, Bannon is also pretty masterful at creating an Ingram. Right. It's something that you should really irk me was that he would always talk about the left as the ones who are playing quote, identity, politics and engaging in culture, and he's the one who's talking about, you know, economic nationalism this term that he's been trying to kind of brand as. His own and in truth, you know, his style of communicating to people really is about creating this shared identity. You know, we had this great victory with Donald Trump, and you know, using a lot of language that sometimes though, so is speaking on a lot of different levels. I think that brings maybe to a third point he absolutely engages in you know, he has no problem using racist. Anti-semitic dog whistles, frankly, some of the anti Muslim stuff isn't so much a dog whistle just like, you know, outright language, and he's trying to shift it all and say it's talking about jobs, basically what he does. He's promising people stuff. He plays politics. He's telling people things are bad the elites have done it to you. I have the answers. What those answers are in the end really just boil down to a wall and exclusionary xenophobic policies. And he leaves it to everyone to connect the dots that that's what's going to change their lives. But you know, he's really good at at getting. People on his side. What is it like to watch him manipulate journalists because he's very clever? He's like a magician. He is deflecting you by waving over here. When you're supposed to be looking over there. I'm gonna play a clip of his talking with Paul Lewis. Who is a very good journalist the guardian. Some of the people you're doing business with here in Europe fell. Right. Sometimes quite extreme sometimes go links to like, Oregon or Filip Dewinter you had a meeting within number. No, no. He just came to. He just came that was a general dinner. It does it concern you Philippa winters like commemorated full mass as collaborators that that that kind of stuff is not going to be tolerated in movement, we were very upfront with that. Right. So you just came to he came to the dinner that was a general dinner. We had you know, number of people their policy is asking him about far right leaders who were at dinner that actually I captured and show in the film earlier. So we're kind of able to do a callback. As you watch him squirming. And recasting this dinner that was a large meeting of the minds, you know, dinner of what like twelve people and he saying, oh, it was it was nothing. And as if he didn't know who any of these people are it's not like, this is some random dinner that he's invited to he is organized, and it is like the Kremlin LA creme of white nationalist leaders throughout your. Yeah enough. Yes. Criminal crime is a good word because it's a very rural white. Yeah. Exactly. Very very white elbow. Some of them were you know, it was really a mixture of people who were leaders of their parties and also outcasts of their parties. But again, they're outcasts because they were so extreme one of the guys can't Eker off of the Sweden. Democrats had just been kicked off of the roles of his party because he was too extreme in his anti-immigrant policies. So anyway, this is the kind of people that are sitting at this dinner, and they're meeting the talk about how they can strategize. So that they can win as a unit. Guide block and change the shape of not just their countries. But Europe as a whole, and I think that that, you know, listening to how Bannon is dealing with Paul's, very direct, and in his very well prepared questioning you see how he lies you see how he really just doesn't enter the conversation in good faith. We're talking with Allison claimant about her film the brink out to play another clip from the film. This is about something called core that stands for citizens of the American Republic. It's the five oh one C four that Bannon started up right when he left the White House. So that he could you know, engage in American politics with dark money. Listen to this part from the Phil. What is she four to know that we don't breaking goals number? That's number one number two is very least using. Page of with. Enter in over there. Valid dress coming. Dancing their citizens for America title. Citizens for citizens for America. Why stone south like citizens United? You have a whole firstly. This is about citizens. You can do, you know organizing for America that you can do truckers for America women for oldest to play a little. Yeah. So it's basically a few weeks really like about two months after he's left the White House. This is early November twenty seventeen and he's with Andy Sarabia and who's Republican strategist? I think right now, he's working for Donald Trump junior, but he had worked closely with Bannon also in the White House and Rehim Qassam who's one of the founding editors of Breitbart London. He used to be the chief of staff of Nigel Farraj, one of the top pro Brexit campaigners in the UK, and to me the scene plays very humorously that now I'm just talking filmmaking wise, it was one of the early things that I shot. And I started to see an inspiration for the film in the television series, veep, because I think it's also looking at a bunch of people who have a big vision of what they can do, and they maybe are a little less than perfectly either skilled organized and to do it. So this is the way that they're trying to come up with names for their five. Oh, one C four. And I think you also can see, you know, they're kind of like the little chattering voices. And he's like the one laying down how about this? There's a long pause before anyone wants to tell them what they really think. How do you make sure filmmaker that you have these moments of semi levity? But these people are talking about what a lot of people would say are very dangerous ideas, and they're affiliated with some very dangerous groups like golden, dawn brothers of Italy. These are anti immigrant Islamic phobic groups. I think that's such a good point. And so I should also add when I when I first started to think this can be like veep. But the end of it was, but you're not laughing at the end. And that was really the guiding one one of the guiding sort of ideas, because I also think real life is funny and the truth is, you know, I think if Bannon, for example, wasn't someone who also charms people and kind of works the media and some of his capital, some of his political capital interpersonal capital comes from being able to crack jokes. He makes self deprecating jokes. A lot of the jokes in the movie are him making fun of himself. And I think that you know, I put it in and some people are like, wow, I didn't realize that. He was actually someone who seemed like fun to hang out with so far. No one I know who has in the films says that and then says, and so you know, what he really convinced me, you know. And now, I changed my mind. I mean, I think that we have to be willing to see the people who are doing, you know, without mincing words doing what you. Said spreading hate who are who are willing to not only promote policies that harm people. But to use rhetoric that inspires others to to violence. We can call that out. But we have to recognize that they're people too because otherwise we might not notice someone like that. In our midst employment is the director of the brand Ellison. Thanks for coming. The brink opens. In select theaters this Friday coming up on the frame in LA theater company surveys, the political landscape and ask playwrights to address this question. What matters now. The LA based open fist theatre company is trying to make sense of our country's political landscape. It's currently presenting a pop up festival to showcase short plays with political themes, the playwrights who come from all over America are trying to answer a question. What matters now the frame contributor Marcos? Not hitter has our story. Take care of Donald Trump wins tonight. No matter who they voted for in the wake of the last presidential election. The actors directors and writers in the open fist theatre company. We're a bit stuff. Patterson? This night is turning out to be a real nail biter all along the trunk of any has been saying that Florida's must win for the were also plenty angry test, Michigan, and Wisconsin and work for the people. Hillary Clinton has called Donald Trump to concede the race. So who better to turn to than the bar? Let me bring part for. So I show you'd be made of penetrable stuff. If you want to express rage at country castle and Kim. Presentiment of two brothers to large portrait's. Flank open fist actor lane, Alison centerstage of Jove himself. There's Barack Obama on one side. Every God did seem to set his seal to give the world assurance of Donald Trump on the other. On blasting his wholesome, brother. Could you be bass hitting on this more? She takes turns hurling verbatim lines from hamlet at the two men. Humble weighs upon judgment. And what what judgment out of the audience? We laugh a lot grown, occasionally and curl up in the comfy sofas. Luckily, there's a bar, right? Inside the theatre if you wanna drink before during or even after the show. This is the third year of open fist annual political. Feeder fess, will you walk inside one of the spaces at the atwater village theatre complex you welcomed by funding. Silverlake hipster version of the Moulin Rouge complete with small red fringe lamps mismatch furniture and lots of red wine. Here in the middle of the bar is open created a Speakeasy of sorts says company member Amanda wire because we live in a time. We're talking about politics is anything but easy back in the day in Chicago. Which is where I started doing all of you know, the theater thing we all go to bars afterward and talk about the shows. We just saw in LA, I think people worry about parking in the cars, and the how do we get to the whatever? So we're like if we bring that atmosphere here, and especially because there seems to be just a lot of charged emotion. And what we do. Now, it I personally, you know, that's the shared communal experience that I think sometimes we're missing given weekend night the festival lineup. Features a rotating roster of short plays the tackle political topics from the tame to the Tahboub. Back. What who said I saw him amend a wire wrote and directed a piece called heart attack Zack. Jill was not get tape ten for dense random family's backyard. My crane of overall theme that I wanted to explore was women where we choose to have another woman's back. How should? Wires play tells the story of young woman who reconnects with her college crush only to discover he's been accused of abusing women, but she and her friends are quite sure who or what to believe. Chill. What who whereas Jill what she's coveted the bar where I work a lot. But. Haunt and has what to do with what it's something that. I think a lot of us have found ourselves having to take sides on because I want out Franken back before were US Senator from Minnesota resigned after a photograph surfaced of him pretending to funnel a sleeping woman. I think what happened there that looks like sketch towards that. I did back in college where people are playing jokes. And then it sucks that there's a photo of that. But it's the photo still staged like it was a joke, and like she was in on it. Who's it for me to say, it's for her to say and okay? But then when cavenaugh came up, I'm like, this poor woman who's having to go up and testify whose families getting death threats, and he's still on the supreme court. It's not an easy conversation to have emits wire. But she says that's exactly the point of this festival. You can kind of look across the space at another audience member and sort of see. Them reacting and reflecting and you realize okay, we're all in this together. And afterward. We're going to you know, the politics might not be comfortable right now. But the couches are. Just me. The protest is a play written by James William Eddin's, inspired by his time as a grad student some twenty years ago in New York and things I was protesting against in two thousand two now seem kind of quaint back then Evans was protesting the war in Iraq. So he wrote this play to chronicle his frustrations and feelings. Doing two actors play penguins. Locked in a glass display case, they spend their days, smiling tourists and banging their heads against the wall. Hoping for better days what these are going through in terms of like banging their heads up against the wall. We we're dealing with that like on a day-to-day basis show director Derek Manson. There's some reassurance. It's happening this one characters trying to reassure this other character. I know you feel dizzy, I know everything is chaos even banging your head. But you just got it. You got to stick with it. You gotta keep fighting the fight. The frame header. What matters now is that the atwater village theatre in L A through April thirteenth nets the frame for today. Thanks for listening. I'm Steven Cuevas. See you tomorrow.
"<music> i'm tracy k smith and this is the slowdown <music> who made the rule that travelers must bargain. It seems like when people are traveling to a a nation where the living wage is lower than it is in their own home country. They feel they must haggle. Locals relentlessly driving prices down onto a brutal rock bottom low. I've always wondered why there seems to be such a need to pay less than his asked. For in situations sounds like these is it an exercise of principle or a demonstration of suspicion and low overall regard is it merely a kind of sport. I once had a friend whose father insisted on haggling everywhere on vacations yes us but also in department stores and restaurants in his hometown. His commitment to seizing bargain was democratic but for most people come on you know who you are taking a trip to mexico or morocco is an excuse to become <hes> hagler par excellence. You want two hundred fifty pesos for that beautifully handwoven table runner don't insult my intelligence olafur fifty and not a penny more. Oh and how about my own private english speaking guide thoroughly versed in local history and with an insider's knowledge of the very sight. I came all this way to see. I'll pay half what you're asking. Take it or leave it. I've bargained. I've tried my hand at haggling but in situations where a few dollars difference doesn't matter all that much to me talking people down from their asking price leaves me feeling guilty or ashamed. It's not just the sense of coming off as cheap deep. The greater anxiety has to do with being an american abroad and feeling like i've stolen something from a vendor trying to make a living living in a place where tourism has altered the stakes of day to day life once after successfully talking down a vendor from his asking asking price i noticed the solemnity bordering on resentment with which he packaged my items and i heard myself talking knocking him back up offering more than we'd agreed upon just to assuage my conscience on one of my husband's first backpacking backpacking trips abroad. He attempted to bargain for a pair of pants. When the vendor went high my husband went low insultingly bolting lee low apparently and the vendor chased him angrily from the store threatening violence if he ever dared return. We both believe there was a kind of justice to that man's affronted response. Today's poem bargain by andrea cohen recalls recalls a memory of tourist travel haggling. I find myself enjoying the level matter-of-factness of the poems speaker but what cinches the deal for me is the persuasive tone of the vendor and what he says in the poem's final lines bargain by andrea cohen we paid him next to nothing less than the little he'd asked for to lead us at dusk from the pyramids on camels into the desert such slim wages to take us without complaint all that way so far without a star we were in the middle of nowhere or add its edge friends. He asked from inside that blackness. What will you pay me to take you back. The slowdown is a production of american public media in partnership with the poetry autry foundation to get a poem delivered to you daily go to slow down show dot org and sign up for our newsletter <music> and follow the slowdown on instagram and twitter at slow down show.
Sword and Scale Daily - Nov 15, 2019
"Certain scale daily launches this Monday November eighteenth. The following is a sneak preview of what's to come if you liked the show apple podcasts or anywhere you listen to podcasts. Search for sword and scale daily and subscribe after this week. That's the only way you'll be able to hear it again. Go to apple podcasts. Google play spotify stitcher. Or wherever are you listen to podcasts. Search for sword and skill daily and subscribe. And if you like it leave a positive review. Stay Safe Hello and welcome the sword and scale daily your host Ryan Williams. It's Friday November fifteen and this is your daily crime report coming up on sort and scale daily. A school shooting in Santa Clarita California leaves to students dead and five injured a Texas jury sentences. Amanda Death for the double murder of his roommate and his roommate. Seventeen year old girlfriend finally law enforcement in California released new video evidence and Yeah Tober kidnapping and murder under of Indian American tax. CEO to Autrey all this and more coming up on sword and scale daily A school shooting occurred Thursday morning and Santa Clarita California per the L. A. Times police emergency units responded to a seven thirty eight. Am Nine one one call at Saugus high school and discovered six mooted students in the High School Quad awed initial reports from KABC identified the gunman as a male Asian student wearing all black an officer told ABC seven news. That a surveillance valence video exists. Which shows the suspect pulling a semi automatic handgun from his backpack shooting? Five other students before shooting himself in the head. The weapon has has been identified as a forty five caliber gun with a six chamber capacity and law enforcement believes the shooter knew. He was down to his final bullet when he turned the gun on himself so the five victims and the wounded shooter were transported to a nearby hospital. Two of the wounded a fourteen year old boy and a sixteen year old girl have died in the hospital hospital. The surviving victims are identified as a fourteen year old boy and two girls aged fifteen and sixteen there have been contradictory reports about a third victim victims. Dying the suspect also in the hospital and his condition is grave. He is in police custody. Neighbors and anonymous police sources have identified the gunman as Nathaniel Borough. Who turned sixteen on Thursday neighbors and friends were in disbelief? That the boy who many described as nice and quiet may have committed such an atrocity. A neighbor told the L. A. Times that Nathaniel was in scouting Amtrak and was a very kind sweet boy. Eight and Soto a fellow student student Saugus high who knew barral from the boy scouts. And from the track team describe Nathaniel. A someone he quote really looked up to police with the help of the FBI. Why are going over? The suspects computers and social media to try and understand the motive of this crime. One possible contributing factor is the fairly recent death of Nathaniel birdhouse. Father Mark Mark Brow died in December of two thousand seventeen of heart attack. He is said to have been an avid hunter who kept weapons and manufactured factored his own homemade bullets. We will keep you updated as the story develops in other news. A Texas jury sentenced thirty year. Old Hector Costo Hato data to death this week for the gruesome murders of his roommate. Twenty six year old. Eric Celaya Ends Elias. Seventeen year old girlfriend iris. Torino's during the trial the prosecution laid out. How a `Hada who goes by the street name L. Solo Shop? The victim's mutilated delay his body and buried both in in the backyard of an Arlington home per the Fort Worth Star telegram. Investigation into the murders began on September. Second when a passer-by found a decapitated potato head on a walking trail near the. At and T.. Stadium in Arlington. A sign was posted near the head with the writing. Let us Sarah spot e fault fault on Quattro meaning roughly. You must respect the race and four are left. Medical Examiners determine the head to have been removed by a blade similar to a machete shetty later that same day. Police arrested eighteen year old Marianna Sanchez on an outstanding warrant. And he told them he knew about a man who had been murdered. In in Arlington home he gave the murderer's name Hector L. Cello `Hada and said he only knew the victim as Elvia blow Sanchez. Told police he O'Hagan oh hey money and this is why. He visited his home on the day of the murder. He said he arrived to see a `Hada Berry El Diablo's decapitated body the following day. Arlington police searched the home where the alleged murder happened and found a machete blood and an area of recently disturbed earth in the backyard. Careful excavation uncovered two bodies male and female that were identified as belonging to Eric Celaya and his girlfriend Irish Reno's who had dropped out of high school in April of this year ear. Celaya had been friends for years and lived with each other on and off at several different addresses. Both victims had been shot. Multiple Times. SALIVAS body was mutilated but iris's body was intact. Sanchez was arrested for the murders and a manhunt began for Hector. Oh `Hada who was caught five days later in Fort Worth eventually. Murder Charges Against Sanchez were dropped. He is charged with tampering with evidence in relation with the crime during the trial. Prosecutors asserted that Hector O'hare shot his friend Eric's allied to death in his sleep and then shot Irish trina multiple times. The motive for the murder was according according to the prosecution. Revenge on the live for having taken part in a drive by shooting on O'Hara's residents a year earlier in the sentencing phase the defense Asked the jury to take into consideration the extremely violent environment that Oh hedo was born into as well as a brain injury and spare his life however prosecutors prosecutors presented evidence that Oh Haider who boasts a tattoo reading L. Maas Odhiambo or the most hatred on his right arm. Had bragged about being a hit man for a Mexican can cartel Owada also tried to start a drug trafficking ring in jail while he was awaiting trial. The Dallas News quoted prosecutor. Tim Rogers as saying Oh oh hate. It is not a product of a bad environment. V is the bad element in his environment. That's who he is and who he wants to be on February fifteenth two thousand eighteen eighteen while awaiting trial for the murders of the lion and Torino's Omega was indicted in another murder which police say is connected to the double murder in Arlington in October. Two thousand seventeen three months after his relatives reported him missing the body of thirty four year. Old Tristan Ray. Gene was discovered cut in half buried in the foundation of Fort Worth home. Police believe that Al.. Jean went to the address where his body was discovered intending to buy drugs from omega. Who lived there at the time did not realize that the drug deal was only a ruse to rob him in Ohio was lying in wait with accomplices including Zelaya and Torino's please say that after forcing Elgin Hanover his ATM Pin Irish? Torino's Eric Celaya went to a nearby machine to withdraw money from Elgin's account only to discover. Discover the pen did not work when they return and told Oh `Hada he murdered tristen Al Jean and buried him in the foundation under the bedroom because his remains were encased in concrete his body took months to identify Omega was convicted for the murders of July and tree knows on November fifth and sentenced to death on November thirteenth. He's still awaiting trial on the murder of tristen gene after the break. The Santa Cruz Sheriff's office releases video of three suspects and the October first kidnapping and homicide homicide of a tech. CEO Now for our final story. The Santa Cruz Sheriff's Office is asking for the public's looks assistance in identifying three suspects in the kidnapping and homicide a fifty year old to Autrey the CEO of Web Design and marketing firm. Autry Tradenet Autrey was kidnapped from his oceanfront home on pleasure point drive in the early morning hours of October first and forced into an SUV registered. Autry girlfriend blood left at the scene revealed to Shahr try to fight off his attackers. The Santa Cruz Sheriff's Office has not released details on how the kidnapper napper enter. Autry is home around ten. Am the same day the SUV was discovered parked on another property. Autry owned about ten miles away in the Santa Cruz. Mountains uh-huh arteries body was inside of the car in autopsy determined. The cause of death was a gunshot wound and the manner of death was homicide. Police say the crime crime was carried out by multiple assailants and the motive was robbery but if not shared what was taken to showers girlfriend. Rachel Emily who lives in Massachusetts has has been cleared of any involvement nonetheless. It is believed that a second person was in Autry House when he was kidnapped to Shahr Autry was born in New York City and graduated eighty from New York University in Nineteen Ninety two. He had lived in pleasure. Point for the past twenty years and moved into this palatial oceanfront home two years ago in one thousand nine hundred ninety six autry founded his first High Tech Company auction net which is served many large bay area corporations including Hewlett Packard Barra Sign Zayn and Lsi logic however more recently autry his ventured into the legal cannabis business with the Santa Cruz. Based Dispensary and delivery service named interstitial interstitial systems. This led to some speculation from neighbors and friends that the kidnapping was connected with the cannabis. Business a friend who had asked to remain anonymous told. KPI Five Autry made a lot of enemies over business deals grant Palmer the CEO of another Santa Cruz. Dispensary told KS B W that Autry Autry was quote unfamiliar with how you know. There are legal. Black market elements in the cannabis industry. And if you don't pay them bad things happen. The investigation nation is looking into the possibility but have not said officially that the kidnapping and homicide were related to arteries cannabis business. This kind of crime is not typical of the legal cannabis cannabis industry. And there's some evidence to suggest offering may have made some enemies in other areas of his life. Neighbors have anonymously told KS BE W reporters that autry was involved in illicit activities and they expect US secrets to come out in the open now. GLASSDOOR DOT COM. Hiring website has a number of scathing reviews of Autry Cnet hosted by former employees. It is important to remember that. This is not an unbiased source however the complaints spanning from two thousand fourteen to two thousand nineteen repeat similar themes someone identifying as the CEO of augury net has posted responses to several of them in his responses the CEO. It does not dispute the accounts given by former employees but rather calls them thin skinned among the issues brought up in the reviews are nonpayment of wages and an abusive work environment. A two thousand sixteen reviews simply states quote. I think to Shaw Autrey is the worst person I've ever met in my life and I wouldn't wish my worst enemy to work four him. One from two thousand fourteen advises the reader to check with the Labor Board of California. He has multiple complaints filed against them. Interestingly only the final review on glassdoor was posted on October. Second two thousand nineteen the day after autry was kidnapped and shot to death. This post reads quote quote. I felt unsafe. When in the presence up to Shahr as he would stalk employees and make lengthy inquiries about their personal lives he screams abuse at employees? A twenty five thousand dollar reward offered for information leading to arrests in this case it has now been raised to one hundred and fifty thousand yesterday. The Santa Cruz Sheriff's Office released new evidence in the case to the media in hopes the public could offer leads in the investigation. The footage shows three men walking out of an alley on a pleasure point Dr at Autry address. One man is holding Duffel bag and another holds a rifle if anyone recognizes the suspects or has other information regarding this crime. They surged to call the Santa Cruz. Sheriff's Department at eight three one four five four seven six three five. Well that's it for today. We'll see next week and until until then stay safe. Sort and scale daily is an incongruity media production. Your host was Ryan Williams Research and writing by Hagar Barak Executive Producer. 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Interviews Week Poet Mahogany Browne Morning
"Chompers is produced by Gimblett and supported by good night's the number one nighttime underwear did morning. It's time for Jumpers your morning and night rushing show on the top of your mouth on one side and make sure to reach those bowlers in the back. It's interviews week and today we have an interview we're. Jasmine talks to somebody who writes poetry a poet. My name is Mahogany l Brown. I'm a poet in what is a poet do being a poet <hes> your job lab is to write down your feelings and explain them to the people. It's being a poet named few observed things around to you and write it down so you can share it with the world and love that. Switch to the other side of the top of your mouth and don't brush too hard and why did you choose to write poetry. I think poetry because there are no rules to poetry. There isn't any one weighed in a poem and so I get to be my most honest self even if I'm afraid even if I'm just happy even high still silly I get to <hes> I'm really dig out on the different part of who I am and who I want to become to have dreams and I get to overcome fear switch to the bottom. Bottom of your mouth and make sure you're brushing the inside outside and chewing side of each tooth and where can you find poetry. Is it only written down. Poetry is not just written down poetry. Autry is in long form like a long book. He can be a chat like you hear at a dame. He can be at the store at the gas station and Church. Poetry is everywhere switch to the other side. Ride the bottom of your mouth and give your tongue brush to what's your favorite poem like if you were dropped on a desert island you can only ever listen to one poem for the rest of Your Life. That's the one poem you got. What's what poem would you take with you? Jeeze maybe these hips by Lucille Clifton yeah by Lutheran shortage sweep celebrates her body. Can you tell us a few lines the hip they don't like to be held back. They go where they want to go. They do what they want to do. You're all done brushing for this morning now. Your hips can go wherever they wanna go the huggies Graham. We'll be back tonight to talk more about poetry and until then three to one chompers is a production of Gimblett media grownups jumpers is brought to you by good night's the number one underwear delivering protection where children need it. The most grownups and kids know that having an awesome morning where everything goes right to plan can set the tone for the rest of the day when you're a kid. Sometimes mornings can start.
Introducing: Generation Why
"I don't know about you guys but as soon as I'm done with one true crime. Podcast wait till the next. I'm obsessed. Here's a suggestion for your next generation. Y. From wondering the Generation Y. Podcast is hosted by friends. Just an errand who've explored hundreds of unsolved murders and conspiracy theories well-known cases like the golden state killer to smaller more mysterious ones like the disappearance of Holly Bobo in this preview clip. Justin an Erin revisit. The case of Holly Bobo. A twenty year old nursing student. Who in two thousand eleven disappeared into the woods with a strange man and would never be seen alive again. Now they look back at the trial of Zach Adams. The person convicted for kidnapping and murder. But just an errand still have questions about the case. Despite the state having made its conviction listen to new episodes of generation. Y now on apple podcasts. Spotify wherever you're listening to listen AD free visit wondering plus Dot Com Slash Gen Y. Tonight's case we are revisiting something that we've already covered in the past. It was episode two. Oh three this is the Holly Bobo case back. Only covered this case just in it had not gone to trial. We knew that they had people arrested that. There were people talking. But we didn't. Have you know the real answers all this time later? We still don't have the answers. I don't think at the time we covered it. They're wondering convictions. And since we covered it they have gone to trial been found guilty and put away. But let's give a quick rundown on what happened the day holly disappeared. And for those of You. That are familiar. Bear with us as we give a quick synopsis. Holly Bobo was a nursing student. At the University of Tennessee. She was twenty years old. CanNot if you look at her pictures. She's a very attractive young lady. Everyone found her to be very friendly. Well liked it was on the morning of April thirteenth? Twenty eleven that her brother. Clint woke up and looked out through a window to see holly who should have been off to university already. She was kneeling down near the car. Talking to someone who is dressed in camouflage while Clinton had just woken up and his I thought was. That's probably her boyfriend drew because he was supposed to be Turkey hunting that day. This guy's wearing camouflage like he's a hunter so it sort of makes sense right. Yeah so he doesn't think too much of it but it he ends up seeing holly walk into the woods right alongside this guy which is very unexpected boyfriend or not. Why would they walk off into the woods? Especially when he knows that she's supposed to be in school before holly in the manner seeing walking off to the woods he gets a call from his mother. Karen Karen had gotten a call from a neighbor. Who said I heard a coming from the vicinity of your home. And they were concerned. So caring called home and Clinton said she's just withdrew but according to his mom she knew that there was no way drew is going to be there because he was going to be Turkey hunting. So there's no way he would have at the home of course. What does the mom say to him when he acts like well? It's just her boyfriend right. Was She freaks out and says that's not her boyfriend and even goes on to say shoot him. It's kind of a strong reaction. There two ways we can look at this one way could be that. She has her motherly instinct. That says based on all the information that I know. There's no way that someone is a friendly person we need to take action to save holly. The other idea here could be that her mom knows something more so whether it's an instinct or based on information that's what Karen says get a gun and shoot this guy now. The description that clint gives is he says he never saw this man's face so he only saw the general shape of the man knew he was wearing camouflage saw that he was holding something black in his hand he thought was. You know possibly a device that's used in hunting. They call it a dear grunt but other than that. He says he couldn't really make out with the man was saying but he did hear his sister say no why I think he even said he had dark hair brown shoulder length hair still because highly should have already been at school because she had a big exam that day he thought this must be something important between her and her boyfriend. I'm not calling the police honor boyfriend if they're breaking up. I'm not getting in the way of that. But as we know whoever that was it was not drew we also know that Holly Least her remains were later found and she had been the victim of murder so when we fast forward the state had brought a case against a man by the name of Zach Adams and Zach is a known meth dealer correct. Yeah and we're this is located. It's very I won't even call a rural. It's it's up in a wooded area there's hills and just thick woods so people would refer to some of these meth heads as like outback hillbillies. But Holly's from a good family. She's going to school to become a nurse. So it's it's just a mix in this area. You have some people that they go to drugs and other people that are hard working and trying to get on with their lives but the police would end up. Talking with a man named John Dylan Adams who happens to have an intellectual disability and John Dylan. Adams will tell law enforcement that he saw his brother Zach with his friend. Jason Autry with Holly. And that's what gets law enforcement after. Zach and Jason. The purpose of US revisiting. This is not to necessarily go through the case as the state told it really what this is all about is to point out the issues that case has continues to have and I think it's very important because Zach has some court action left and were waiting to find out where this will go and so yes. They've gotten a conviction on Zach Adams but I think there's a real question here about whether that will hold up or not. I will say that when this case was I finished at least as far as the trial wins. I could see how it got there based on the Terrible crime that was committed here against Holly Bobo. And the fact that the state had said this was a case involving murder and drugs and abduction and that there were all. These guys involves atoms. Jason Autry Shane Ost in John Adams and maybe others. They had a lot of people to call to get on the stand and tell their stories. Zach Adams maintained all along the nothing to do with this. You got the wrong guy. I mean at one point even put his right hand up and said right hand before God. I had nothing to do with this but of course this is an emotionally charged case. It was the most expensive investigation most far reaching investigation in the state of Tennessee. History as far as I'm aware people wanted this solved. And so when you have the state saying Zach is the ringleader. He's the one that did this to Holly. And is responsible for her abduction for the rape and murder of her then. Why wouldn't people go forward with that but again we're going to start bringing up the evidence and we'll kind of compare and contrast here and we'll see. Does it really hold up?
Gulf War Illness and Dementia
"Senior Life Journeys Presents Carol Hells let's talk dementia a podcast designed to help caregivers find knowledge power hope and small sales in their dementia caregiving journey welcome to let's talk dementia here's your host bestselling author. Carol Good Morning I am existence and was losing everything little by little because he could not work he'd built up quite a bit of debt and sold everything they had to in in everyday life but when we've been sent to a country to fight to defend the United States or defend your country wherever you might live you come back a different person it has to happen but these folks come back with unexplained illnesses and was one gentleman had just depleted everything he had trying to discern what was going on with him he could not remember things and more and more came back as Gulf war illness and he was a Gulf War veteran that's quite an interesting thing I've been reading comeback who they were when they left how could they be you just change life changes us no matter what we're always different from year to year let's talk dementia this month. I want to be here to help you bring dementia education to your world thank you for listening we have listeners in eighty one country ars check us out at www dot let's talk dementia. Dot Org there is a link there to everything we produce and I hope you'll check out all those could not function he could not hold down a job he was having lots of pain and discomfort just was leading a miserable try to get the help he needed no one could figure out what was going on with the man so his story was put out by this physician I told you about on the television shows out to the world for professionals to gaze upon that information and see what their take on that situation might be in what help they might nobody can figure out what's wrong with them and a physician has decided to take it upon herself to choose these certain people and put their symptoms he came back from the Gulf War totally different than he went now we know that's not unusual for our veterans who go off to War I don't think they ever Nance Ministry's as we do bring dimension education throughout the world in that doesn't come cheaply so we thank you for helping to keep those boats floating bring the individual it's a good show but there was one where they interviewed an in a gentleman who was no longer able to function recently was watching a television show about unexplained illnesses people have these go to doctor after doctor and have test after test so the veteran received the benefits they so very much have earned and deserve contact them at eight hundred three five to to nine one nine or www he's now and I thank you for that we were voted number six podcast about dementia isn't that neat I think that's pretty cool and I thank you for being among those listeners that had serious effect on the neurons in their brain says one third of the vets which is two hundred fifty thousand people are sources as well as our Amazon bestselling book books and there is a link there you can write me under contact and if you're so inclined you can make a donation to help well I would like to thank National Association of Veterans and Families for helping support our ministry and they are there to help the veteran in the south that spouse about it and what we know is that votes with who were exposed a who were in the Gulf War were exposed to toxins dot in a v Dot O. R. G. Speaking of Veterans Today we're going to talk about Gulf War illness well at risk of having Gulf war illness is seems that there were buried rockets that were exploded intentionally and that by the United States aces I understand and when those rockets were exploded that rocket leaked out into the air seat they don't know what to do about it and then they also burned oil fields in the smoke was inhaled from those oilfields and is just aw is E. T. I. O. N. which is a gas and people were inhaling this gas it changed the white matter of the brain and there there's not a treatment for this that's just two of the very many things that these folks were exposed to their that caused issues within their body and so they're calling it Gulf war illness much like those who are in Vietnam that were exposed to Agent Orange they have all kinds of side effects and the the least of which is not heart disease I mean schemic heart disease is rampant among veterans who were exposed to Agent Orange my brother-in-law being that they do they have to show at least a ten percent disability and have symptoms that have occurred for at least six all kinds of problems and there is a Gulf War registry health exam that they can go through and register themselves but this is what they have determined smart six months after being southwe West Asia theater of military operations and they have to register by twelve thirty one two thousand twenty one one of those people so now we know that the folks who are in the Gulf war expose to the c time gas or the smoke from the burning oilfields have indigestion insomnia dizziness respiratory disorders and guess what dementia sure enough that is being listed as one of the problems these we're really not that far away from that that cutoff time but what are the symptoms what are they seeing in people well fatigue and headaches joint pain throughout his day by his wife which meant she couldn't work she couldn't leave him alone and it was it was quite a lot so these folks hopefully within B assuming least a ten percent rating disability and can receive via disability compensation so the chronic fatigue folks are having this gentleman I told you about was having serious dingy couldn't remember how to do his job or how to function in life and was needing to be led or it may be the muscles in the arms or the legs or wherever insomnia and morning stiffness headaches memory loss so out algebra meaning pain so it's muscle pain of my sister has fibromyalgia in muscles you have muscles in places you're not thinking about like your heart is a muscle in severe pain in the heart that resembles a heart attack but it's not it's that heart muscle constricting and causing severe pain where does it help is one of the symptoms no matter what they do they just have no energy fibromyalgia if you're familiar with fibromyalgia fiber meaning must gastrointestinal issues such as irritable Bowel Syndrome Branston and then undiagnosed illnesses where they have no clue why they're having thanks unusual weight loss or they have cardiac cardiological disease and they don't know why they have that menstrual disorders psyche. I was in the Gulf War and they are experiencing some of these symptoms. Then they need to proceed with finding help I would recommend autry problems skin disorders respiratory disorders sleep disorders sounds like fun to me what about to you but if you know someone who oh coming off burning oilfields you can go to the Department of Veterans website see it's public health va dot Gov and if you click around you'll find the Gulf War veterans medically unexplained illness page wording being exposed to Gulf war illness being exposed to see time gas being exposed to the small and there will tell you a little more about it and how to complete the Gulf War Registry Health exam call the National Association of Veterans Families Eight hundred three five to to nine one nine and tell them that you need help applying for benefits regard it very well may be because they were in the Gulf War and now they have Gulf War ns I can tell you that the va has said they don't WanNA call it Gulf War the Gulf War they were doing their part for our country for which are hats should be off to them and we should be saying thank you and not belittling it's important that our veterans and know this you know if your loved one is experiencing some dementia and they were in the Gulf War this may be another one of those a two hundred reasons someone could have dementia so we can't just assume because our veterans having dementia that they have the beginnings of Alzheimer's or Parkinson's or something like this disability rating than they can get disability compensation because it is a disabling disease it's not just something that goes on but if you know someone in this type situation please take steps to get them registered to begin finding out if they can have that ten percent on I tunes remember Knowledge Brings Power Power Brings Hope hope brings smiles and we all need more smiles thanks for joining us in their life that's an annoyance it is disabling it's a sad situation I think well as I said you can contact the National Association of Veterans and Families Dementia Dot Org and if you're so inclined include your phone number and maybe I'll have you as a guest on an episode one day well have a great day keep smiling villainous kind of era tate's me when I when I read this they want to call it chronic multi symptom illness why don't you can call it whatever you want but these folks also titled Let's Talk Dementia It's available on Amazon in paperback and kindle versions be sure to like let's talk dementia on facebook and leave us a kind word of review or labeling in different less impressive way what they're going through and why they're going that just irritated me when i read let me tell me what's going on in your world if you have a veteran that's facing this right me about it or whatever other issue you might have going on and my email is carol at let's talk is your day goes on you have a good day in that you find something in your day that makes you smile it makes me smile to know that you're there listening and your writing and I hope you will blessings and smiles by thanks for joining us today for Powell howls let's talk dementia to learn more about dementia we recommend Carols bestselling book hundred three five to to nine one nine tell them Carol sent you and I'm so appreciative to them for coming along beside us and helping to support our ministry well I hope the well how will your host and welcome to. 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The Worst Chart in Finance (EP.174)
"Today's animal spirits is brought to you by our friends at why charts. One of the great features of white shirts that I like is the fact that you can just search for anything. I. Have A hot take. I'm going to roll out on the show today. I. Pulled out to Michael This morning he said no sabre for the show. This is great. So it's a quick research and the functionality of the tool is great because you can just kind of search for anything. So I looked at the price of oil and the performance of the energy sector, and then I looked at the performance of solar ATF's and then I went. Down to compare the performance of the Canadian stock market versus the S. and P. Five hundred. So the ability to just jump back and forth in us all these different features at the same time without really knowing what you're looking for is always been helpful and so we're going share some of the stuff I found here in why think maybe the price of oil is losing its luster as a macroeconomic indicator, and if you want to try why charts out, take it for a spin white shirts, dot com telmo spirits, and you and get twenty percent autry initial subscription. Welcome to animal spirits show above markets life ten investing join Michael Bat Nick and Ben Carlson as they talk about what they're reading writing and watching. Michael Bat Nick and Ben Carlson worked for RITHOLTZ wealth management all opinions expressed by Michael and Ben or any podcast guests are solely their own opinions and do not reflect the opinion of ritholtz wealth management. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon for investment decisions clients of Holtz wealth management maintain positions in the securities discussed in this podcast. Welcome to animal spirits with Michael and Ben gotta take in the oven been working on for a few days printing. Yes. been heating for awhile wondering about you. What if the price of oil just doesn't matter anymore to what a huge macroeconomic indicator? Off what I got for you hear of all the weird things to happen in the market this year. Don't you think the price of oil going negative three, seven dollars. A barrel was one of the weirdest in a weird year that was definitely one of the things to happen and I know that there was these weird dynamics to it. The fact that demand fell off a cliff because of the cortines and pandemic and no one wanted to take delivery of oil. So you had to pay these. People to keep it I understand all the dynamics behind that. But there really no real world implications that happened from that the person wouldn't negative for day we kind of fun making jokes about it on finance twitter and there weren't even any like huge hedge funds that blew up from it. There really wasn't any overspilling to any other parts of the economy. Here's what else I got. I evidence here. The energy sector now makes up one point nine percent of the vanguard total stock market in next month's so the total US stock market mix up one nine percent it's less than three percent worldwide. You alerted me to the fact that solar stocks going nuts in one of your videos in the compound of Josh weeks ago. So the solar ETF T. A. N. is up one hundred and twenty five percent today. I. Think goes up one hundred, fifty before also the clean energy ETF, which is similar holdings. Tesla's up four hundred percents this year I mean you could say, well, the price of oil rises in the future gas prices will go up on the consumer how much impact does that really having the stock market of gas prices rise? Is it that much my pole vol press here is AM. I. Giving the market too much credit to say. That it's effectively saying the price of oil just an whatever doesn't really matter that much in the grand scheme of things as far as markets are concerned. Well, stock market it doesn't matter. I mean I don't know how you could argue that it does matter giving US smaller. So it could triple from here and not move the needle. It can go two zero not and move the needle in a vacuum however. Energy is still a huge input into costs of everything I. Think the price of oil might not matter or doesn't matter to the stock market, but it's certainly matters to the economy. Okay counterpoint. Don't you think a lot of the companies that use it are now much smarter than they were in the past and they hedge all this stuff out anyway they've always hunted out doing the forever. I just think if you'd have told someone in the seventies with how crazy that wasn't there talking the peak oil and all this stuff and there's lines in to ticket gas that the price of oil go negative in the twenty twenties and it really wouldn't matter I think that if you were talking to people from the seventies, you could have said about. Seven. Thousand things that would seem insane right now that would it make sense for them and I think that the price of oil going negative certainly want him. I don't think anybody in two thousand and nineteen would have ever believed that that can happen. I know we have a lot of Canadian listeners at father show I did a quick search of the MCI candidate ETF in the last ten years is up nineteen percent total against an sap. That's two hundred, fifty percent and it looks like actually financials are much bigger waiting in that index then energy is now. Is Energy in the Canadian market materials will actually a bigger piece than energy but I think it all flows through the fact that the Canadian economy. So tied up to the energy, it doesn't matter to the five hundred certainly matters for the rest of the world to Canada. But to my point, if you look at VP, which is Total World Stock Market Index Fund for Vanguard Energy is less than three percent of total waiting I. Agree with you. I don't think it Madison, stock market, but I think about it to the economy but I think it matters to economy way less than at once did though House that I'm just saying, is it possible that the market has? Totally front run everything and thought okay. In the decades ahead, it's electric vehicles and I know I'm not saying oil usage is going to completely go away. Is it possible that the market is smart enough to that? It's just priced all at in with making energy such a small piece of shore perhaps speaking of clean energy and self driving cars somebody sent us a comment last week we were talking about self driving cars from the ARC report WHO's going to clean them if somebody pews spills water or coffee in the seats, thousand angle that we hadn't considered I, don't know that's like a complete their case for self driving cars in the future, but that's a good point. Okay. Well, if we get to the point where have self driving cars don't think they'll ever robots that can clean the cars for us on not true. Yeah. because. Listen. I have to vacuum my car because cheerios crunched up all over the place in. Goldfish so Me Once every like three years I vacuum I, cry just pile up I, move the car seat once every two years and it's like Oh my God. Yeah there you go. You don't WanNa be the company that's servicing out to little kids because your cars are GonNa be messy all the time and drunk people. Okay. You had a post this weekend called who owns the stock market and you shared this graph with me last week and I thought this was really interesting. So it looks at the ownership of US corporate stocks since nineteen sixty five and it goes to two thousand eighteen and shows how changes over time taxable accounts accounted for roughly eighty percent of stock holdings back in nineteen, sixty five. Now it's eyeballing at twenty five percent maybe no one that Warren Buffett crushed it in the fifties. and. So now it breaks it up by foreigners which I guess is. Sovereign Wealth Funds and then rich people that that makes up forty percent. Now, it was also investment so. They gave was Siemens. If they have a US subsidiary, they count that all zone. So it's not. Yeah. So where did you find this one? I saw somebody tweeted man I can't remember but this is from the Brookings Institute. That's what the work was done, and of course now, there's a big growth in defining contribution plans have grown a lot defined benefit plans have shrunk somewhat that's just pensions and it shows IRA's then nonprofits and life insurance accounts but I. Guess. My biggest takeaway from this is does the fact that The changing composition of the ownership of the stock market here there's far more tax deferred accounts than ever before then there ever were used to more tax now way more tax deferred does that make the stock market a little more long-term nature? Is that too much of a stretch obviously in two, thousand and twenty. Aren't you the person that's saying that booms emboss are going to happen quicker. I've been listening to your podcast and that's what you've been saying I. Don't think that's two different things though I'm thinking really negates the other those are complete contradictions. Okay. What people are speculating their tax taxable accounts that make up a smaller percentage now but they're leaving alone their defined contribution plans in IRA's and such. Yeah I. Mean Obviously, you're correct retirement accounts are becoming bigger piece of the market, but you can also make the. Case that because those people are yes thinking long term they're not really turn over their portfolio that what's moving the needle is what it's always been HFC's and institutional money I. Think you're right but I don't think that's going to necessarily change the way the market acts it is surprising I mean obviously, there's a lot of legacy stuff here, but it looks like pensions are basically the same size as 401k's which I think would surprise them people that are still damaged I'm surprised that pensions are still that big. Aren't you or actually? Well pensions could be bigger because this is only showing the stock market. So there's actually a story in the Washington Post in there wolf who economist at New York University he's always gotTa love gets doubts about ownership of the stock market and wealth inequality, and he looked at it and found there's like fifty three, hundred pension sponsored by state and local governments. Two trillion dollars underwater as of June, thirtieth. That is also at a time when the fund's assets reached an all time high of four point, seven, trillion dollars. So this four point, seven trillion dollars in state and local government pension plans but they're two trillion dollars underwater even though their assets at an all time high this is almost a case of them having so much money, but it's almost like no matter what they do their investments they're screwed because it's almost like no matter what you do if you don't have enough you're out of luck. So this. is almost like a personal finance issue for them. They didn't set aside enough money at the start, and now they're even though they have more money than ever had. They're still screwed other. That's always the issues that you should never count on your vestments to bail you out. Yes. Like their expectations got so out of whack but this is probably one of my bigger long-term worries about what are they going to eventually when this time comes are people are gonna see their benefits cut as they retire how you playing this? Trade I. I don't have any long-term calls on pensions being screwed, but I'll think about it. So, packing MacArthur wrote a post softwares eating the markets welcome to the consumerization of investing, and this is one of the best post I've read in a while talking about how the markets have changed and there's a lot in here to unpack. But one of the themes was that retail investors are behaving more like consumers than they are investors. So their motivations are different than institutional investors. It's not just dollars and cents. There's all sorts of things that go into these decision making process. So here's his quote. He said the rise of consumer investors will alter how markets operate your take your thoughts. Well, I I liked how he said that in Silicon Valley it's almost like a big show of. To say that you invested in like series Am Uber than owner Ferrari. That's bigger badge of honor. But I mean, one of the things we've been talking about for awhile is the fact that. As, bond rates continue to fall and maybe stay low for a long time. People are either going to by choice or by force. Going to more creative investments in that demand as Joshua says, the supplies gonNA catch but the demand eventually right I love this quote low interest rates favor more fun assets like art cards and tech stocks over more boring ones like bonds in value stocks. I think there's going to be a host of stuff coming in the years ahead that allow people to invest and stuff that they never dreamed of investing before and actually I think a lot of this stuff actually favors retail investors over the pros like institutions because a lot of the stuff isn't. Big, enough quite yet to scale in reach these big professional investors that invest hundreds of millions or maybe billions of dollars. So this is actually stuff that is something of the retail investor can put their money in and maybe I don't know who knows what the returns for the stuff going to be. But if it's something you're more interested in doesn't even the whole point is his point that returns obviously component of people's motivations. But he said quote although they're often derided as a rational or gamblers or your traders retail traders might be behaving perfectly. Rational when you price and everything else they're buying and experience a status symbol, a digital good belonging entertainment education and more, and I hear the eyeballs rolling from people who think that they're super smart and gambling, and this is not what investing is an okay. Yeah. Fine. But the world has changed and this is not going away in what if this stuff the status symbol entertainment having more fun. What if that stuff in Gaijin invested longer to? Even if the returns are support, I know a lot of people been pushing back against ESPN investing in. Recent years, I think one of the things they miss on that is who cares if you get any alpha there or whatever if those decisions allow you to stay in your portfolio longer allow you to behave versus the alternative than it's a win win in that way fit improves behavior. Maybe some of this stuff will make behavior worse. Obviously, it depends on the platform and how much you're able to trade and stuff but I think it's going to maybe bring out a whole host of new investors that might not have looked at this stuff before. So. There are companies that allow you to invest in real estate institutional like real estate fundraise. For example, we had them on the show a few months back equities end. Let's you invest in pre IPO markets. We also did one with them masterworks for art. There are so many of these companies sneakers and you can invest in a share of car classic cars by the way I think when I first home run I'm pretty sure that I laughed and said, this is ridiculous. Why would anybody but that was probably five years Ago. I saw this at one of the stock twits events that I had probably left but I think that this thing is here it's not going away. I am Super Bowl Ish on these companies ability to attract eyeballs raise assets who knows who the winners are going be, and again I think that the returns are just one component of these things in if the Fed does keep interest rates low twenty, twenty, three like they say who knows if that will happen maybe it does I am a perfect example of this so. I like a lot of other listeners have kept money in high yield same say it sounds ridiculous. Marcus. Or whatever which is giving you sixty basis points. I don't want that much cash there. Now this is made me think my emergency reserves I have definitely less today than I have in the past because rates are effectively forcing me to look elsewhere I basically have a ceiling on it or four I guess when a go over that floor I, sweep it out and invested in something else like you said, what's The point if you're earning absolutely nothing on it on that money and the I think this stuff is just going to keep rates low for a while people are going to want to continue to move out of that stuff and into something more exciting and so there was a story about Robin. Hood and Bloomberg is a cover story and they said whatever three million new sign ups in the first year in the first half of the year. This year half of their customers were I on investors they said it's great. But the big number, they said eighty percent of am in for Robin Hood is millennial users. And I think I. I'm sure it sounds like they're biding their time and they actually said they pause their efforts to expand into Europe and Asia after they had that slowdown member in March and April, when their service went down for a day. So I think they want to get that stuff right before they will expand. But if they're able to somehow do some more stuff besides just stock trading if they're able to get into people's somehow help I, know they have a debit card, they've rolled out now and they have a savings account to again you can't call it a high yield, but they have a savings account there. If, there will offer other services checking accounts, whatever if they want to get into that somehow life insurance. Yeah and be that four millennials I think they have a real shot at getting there. Do you think that a lot of these newer companies that were mentioning for alternative asset classes and Robin Hood are these ought to be winner take all markets. is they're going to be room for competition. So who are we talking about this morning? Equities ends competition is a company called forge is that right? I can't imagine there won't be competition from these I'm surprised we haven't seen Robin on steroids what him in let's say for the Zero Commission brokerage firms Robin Hood is the Index Fund I'm surprised there isn't. A triple levered version of robinhood yet, that is just playing the game of vacation to the next level in just being blatant about it. I'm surprised that someone hasn't ruled out a competitor yet to them. Maybe it's harder than it sounds I guess I'm surprised we haven't or won't seen something like that where that just takes it to the next level. Match Dot Com was one of the first online dating sites. When do we get the tinder to robinhood match? Didn't they merge Yanni right but tinder just broke it down to the most basic. You see a picture and you swipe next game. -CATION OF atfer investing I duNno Robin. Hood in packing McCormick's piece US talking about their competition this company called public. Whereas Robin Hood is encouraging trading and treating it more like a casino public is going with the other way. So instead of showing like a ticker symbol for your holdings, they're showing the logo of the company. They actually trying to promote more long-term saying I'm surprised you don't see something the other way but who knows what he's been saying that just want people to just go crazy and trade their faces off. You don't think that's Robinhood as well. Yeah. It's not just robinhood. Obviously, we use the fact and maybe they are certainly the straw that broke the camel's back in terms of nudging Schwab and td to go zero and their trades. But this chart from the post shows retail equity trading volume td robinhood leapfrogged E. Trade and Schwab which is hard to believe but tedious still way way bigger and terms of the math trading on the platform. Increase, everywhere interactive brokers. Charles Schwab e trade all them. It's everywhere I wanNA talk quickly about a from morning star about momentum. One of the takeaways for may not necessarily the whole point of the piece was. We compare these idea compare a momentum funds performance to the S. and P. Five hundred that's the benchmark. But actually oftentimes in the last one year, three years momentum stocks has held growth stocks those have been the momentum needs as growth stocks. So when you compare momentum's performance to a growth index, it's actually not done. That well, and moving the goalposts am I being unfair? No they looked at the ice shares momentum of factory ads, Mt Um and I looked at the top holdings in toppling is Tesla Apple Amazon Microsoft nvidia adobe netflix's Google so. How does that compare to the cues by the way I'm a believer in Mama survival strategy I think that I am perhaps being a little bit unfair I just thought this was interesting because over the past few years, I've been comparing momentum to a broader base index and saying like the cow momentum has absolutely annihilated the SNP or whatever. They're also one thousand and then compared to the growth. Actually that tells a little bit of a different story. Now, counterpoint to myself is that momentum doesn't have to hold growth stocks there could obviously be a period where consumer staples momentum where you name it, you pick in the past few years it seems that momentum has been primarily. Flyers and it hasn't kept pace with the index anyway picking that's here if you're talking about factors like this, the opportunity cost. So for a lot of people is the core holding of the S. and P. Five, hundred or toll stock market, and then what am I disturbing off of that? That's true. Yeah. You can look at it either way when you look at the different factors, I mean momentum equality have been the only ones that I've been worth a damn. Over the past few years. Yeah. It'll actually done something worked I agree. I This is interesting sticking with factors. This is from looks like Bank of America Merrill Lynch amid depressed earnings this year and a nascent economic recovery expected into next year analysts. Now assigned higher growth rates for value stocks over the next two years for growth stocks. This is unusual absent umbrian to seventeen. This has not happened since a financial crisis who cares what they say this is interesting. The expected earnings growth for values taxes no higher than that for growth stocks. Yes. That's what this is saying. Okay that's surprising this. Harris nicely with an economic tweet. Again. From back America, Merrill Lynch, showing that so far this quarter companies that beat on both top and bottom line have underperformed s and P Five, hundred five basis points the day after which is the worst in history and Mrs outperformed by sixty basis points the highest in history. So I saw this chart and I basically thought that this was a continuation of the theme that we've seen, which is the high flyers money losing stocks have done better but that's not what this is showing because this is only showing companies that have missed or be. This is not showing making money or losing money. So this is again an expectation thing, right? That's exactly. Right Jake tweeted looks like it's been value sectors that I've been missing. Thus I assume outperforming so many people have tried to said that it's now values time. I. Actually did a post last week that hilariously wrong on Monday morning with value stocks, cyclicals, industrials getting creamed is this the turn when the tech bubble happened in the late nineties the thing that all the value investors are hanging their hat on is that when that reversed in two thousand growth stocks crushed valued well into probably is mostly value stocks these days that they're in this bucket but I think the reversal this time I'm just waiting I could be wrong obviously great caveat bent well, force. Covid work from home world versus a post Kovic things different world I. think that's going to be the line of demarcation there that sort of the same thing but maybe a little bit more specific. You think that's all value stocks I. Don't know I guess I mean I'm thinking more of like travel leisure consumer spending cyclical stuff like that. Maybe that's value. It's not but I think that's going to be the line in the sand where people realize. Okay. This is over in people's habits are going to change I think it's GonNa be like flipping a switch I. Mean I kind of did that in my post, the basket that I can paired. Was Amazon Docu sign shop a fight peleton tele doc zoom. Those are the stay at home stocks. And on the other were Marriott. macy's MGM, Royal Caribbean Delta and Simon Property, which is value-growth to your point more specifically stay at home opened up in ps if it were not for the pandemic I, never in a million years would bought Palatine. Now I haven't I you still riding Bra of course I love it actually I use it. More than I ever thought I would just even getting in like ten or fifteen minute short workout after the kids are in bed or something can I give a plug? I know everyone's so tired of people with six packs giving exercise advice like those people could, of course, take a heavy instagram model people. Yes. But take it from me I am a fat skinny guy I have not exercised ten years I do not have a six pack believe me that you're smirking. I am the lightest I've been in probably ten years and it took a while it was not easy but I finally made exercise part of my routine. I have known you for seven years now maybe how do I look good ever exercised before this year fact of me knowing you. That's a fact it makes your life easier. That's a good thing. So again, take it from somebody that does not expect. That was never an exercise junky. You're speaking for all the DADS out there. Somebody and Youtube was questioned why would use a firm to buy Peleton? I did this installation payment plan farmers like a huge company they're probably GONNA of sooner than later we were reading about this. A third of a firm users are able to use installment plans with no interest. So my credit score isn't quite as Pristina's yours but I guess it's good enough that I'm able to buy the PALATINE and pay whatever sixty bucks a month instead of two. Thousand five hundred or however much. It costs. Why would not take the free money? It's a free loan I did the same thing I still don't understand why they offer that. Why do they make that offer because for the time value of money thing if someone is gonNA offer zero percent financing, I'll take it any day of the week because if there's any inflation you're paying less over time there this Oh, you used a firm because you're inflation hawk. If -lationist point one percent a year I win on this transaction. How the deal specifically works with Palestine but I understand that most merchants pay them on the other side as well. I bought a dyson vacuum a did a needed it on that. No but they offered to me I'm like, okay twenty bucks a month instead of paying eight hundred up front or whatever it is. I bought a subway sandwich day it was six at Ford it. Yeah. But I guess it's one of those things like the people in Panther credit cards just earn rewards they're being subsidized by the people who don't I guess I dunno same as it ever was I, my friend John Berman passed away last week from globe less dome way too young I think he was in his young. And a lot of listeners know John from twitter have met him and just such a special sweetheart of a person I went back and I read truly one of my favorite blog posts of all time that he wrote I remember when he wrote this and thinking this is amazing yes. Yes this is not I definitely tweeted this at the time holy cow. This is amazing and it's funny because I was writing a little tribute to him and I wrote this and I deleted it only because it just didn't fit. So I published it and then I read this post. And this is the part that I deleted because I couldn't remember I've been saying this for years. I've been saying this people for years specifically younger people that are asking me about trading and stuff and I was sort of paraphrasing this but John said if you want to own the strongest stocks by the strongest stocks by something that's already doing, would you want it to going up? and quote that sounds so simple. So John was a trend follower meaning. He bought stocks we're going up period end of story did not care what the S&P five hundred was doing. He bought socks going up and it was also extremely transparent in the way he did it number like every week shares performance you share the stocks he's buying stocks he's. Selling Yeah. He was a gem and he is based like I'm just buying stocks go up I don't care about anything else. Yeah. I just thought that this is such a fantastic trading advice to young people. It sounds so simple if you WANNA buy stock because you want to go up by stock, it's already going up now of course, the RUB is In real life that's not easy to do I. Don't know that my personality is suited for that I. Think you have to have the right type of personality to take that type of strategy. I don't know that I could do that on a consistent basis. Well, I tried you have to know yourself to know that you're the kind of person who can do that on a rules based fashion or whatever I tried a new. It's incredibly difficult. So a lot of people talk about the entry one, do I buy a stock nobody talks about one? Do Sol stocks? John had this amazing blurb end this long post where he said watch any trading software ad and you'll likely hear lots about getting entry signals. The perception is it's more important than the others, but it's not I. think exits are more important. A good exit signal doesn't get you out when needed a really good exit signal you in staying just below the action not triggering until the trend is over look at the entry of a successful position you've held for many months. How important was it to enter at that precise time that day it's likely what followed was more. Important what allowed you to tolerate the volatility and ride at higher to where it is now making it the big winner it is that's all exits and position size entry. So I think that point is so well taken. We just got to listen to question this morning asking about listen I've got thirty percent of cash and I understand the math and this time is different than Blah Blah Blah and I basically said to him if you give it enough time now this is an index is not specific but if you Give, the S. and P. Five hundred enough time and you really hold on does he entry really really matter your posted a Bob, the world's market timer for example, right? You're holding long enough patients skin kind of conquer all one of unique things about John I. Think he was not only a nice guy in real life, but he was super nice on social media and that's kind of hard thing because a lot of times you'll find the person that they're in real life is not where they on social media or Vice Versa I mean we're guilty this too of being snarky and sub tweeting people and probably saying some stuff every once in a while we shouldn't. He would never pick fights. He never did I mean he was like that kind of on and off and some people. It's hard to separate those two personalities and he was the same in both he was never out to get people is always like this is my thing if you don't like it fine but this is the way I do it and how you do it. That's fine. Yeah Rust in peace John. Real estate continues to be absolutely on fire. So we got existing home sales last week. The medium price is fifteen percent, which is a nominal and real all time high existing home sales were up nine point four percent month over month existing home sales rose nine point four percent month over month and twenty one percent year over year, and now here's the interesting piece of data within the data. There were only one point four, seven, million homes for sale at the end of September, which is down nineteen percent from a year ago. So at the current sales pace, there was just a two point, seven months supply of homes on the market, which is the lowest level on record. Going back to one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, two, I think real estate is one of the places where the animal spirits for about word take hold more than anywhere else anecdotally I hear people say all the time why wouldn't I just put my home for sale for can sell it for more money never thinking about the other side of that transaction of guess what you're buying higher too but I've heard so many people say that in the last few months saying this market is so hot. Why would I not I can sell in two days And I'm seeing that all over UCLA housecall for sale in jail pending sign is up three days later think it's one of those things where it just builds on itself in. It is funny though because unless you're downsizing the arbitrage and moving somewhere else or Renting whatever the difference that you make between what you spend, what you sell it for it's GonNa. Basically, even out is not someone I know put their house up for a ridiculous price. 'cause houses are flying in my neighborhood like everywhere else I said. Where are you going? was like off figure it out. If I get this price, I'll figure it out somewhere else. Yeah. This is the way it works. Hearing stories about the stuff, and then they want to get into the action to that's how towns to work in the housing market. Quick Story. So I'm a little bit disappointed in this. So my plumber tons of Alpha, the guy that was buying all those high stocks did he said a newsletter yet? So the other day I heard some bubbling in my sink I'm great. What does that and then I realized that the bathroom downstairs was clogged I just couldn't unclog it. I didn't know what was happening. There was nothing down there. So my plumber came now granted it was after hours. It was seven o'clock on Sunday night. And there's like a drain coming out of my house, a white pipe and there was toilet paper around. So something something got backed up whatever. He took like a chisel. He dug under there was some sort of valve. He took a chisel he hammered it did it out took out the toilet paper put it back on and left and it was. Probably, I duNno probably took them forty minutes or so he charged me a lot of money I was just happy to have him here I was like, thank God what would have happened if we didn't get you but plumbers a pretty good living I said to him, you will never be disrupted. You can't replace us with technology I learned two important lessons one. I never knew how to flush the toilet apparently did you know that I flushed it and I like Oh now is it actually have to flush it and hold it for like two or three seconds to let the drain the water down I did not know that check it out true story but my children flush the toilet. Eighteen Times a day. So maybe they're making up for it, he gave me a number and so my neighbor text me the next day is like dude that was pretty egregious. I'm like, oh no really I thought it was a lot but I wasn't really positive. He's like those kinds of criminal. Charge you. Yeah. Did he give you any free stock picks to make up for it? He did not but here's another thing. So the next morning I had a sprinkler guy over who also does plumbing and I asked him, he's like, yeah, that's hi, it's if I charged me a hundred fifty bucks more than he should've. was kind of bummed out because I like this guy you know I thought that he was my plumber and I was good and I didn't have to find the plumber and I could trust them and I didn't think to Google how much should this job costing? You know why I don't even know what the job is. I. Wouldn't even have known what to Google it's like getting a healthcare bill. Right right and no idea. So it's like when you go to the mechanic, I don't know so i. was thinking there should be like a am I getting ripped off dot com or something like that for services that you have no idea what actual services are whether it's a mechanic or plummer. Google that homeadvisor sort of does this is that what Angie's list is oh is that it could pre approved list of your kind of like the guys on knocked up who created Mr Skin Dot com about reeling resisted an easy mark. But Anyway, my point is this is all well and good but I literally would not have even known what to Google. Oh Yeah. My toilets clogged. So what then? What? Yeah we had a little pipe washer that bursts a few months ago and they gave me the bill for whatever four hundred bucks and I was like. Oh it's not that bad guys. That's a lot and I'm like Oh okay. Gets a lot I have no idea I don't know these things. My Bill is four fifty which I don't know it seemed pretty expensive. But what was the alternative that everything is backed up to my house? Yeah, you're paying for getting something done and getting out of there. So I don't know anyhow. You shared with me opposed from the Atlantic here's one of the great paradoxes in American life is that while on average exists has gotten more comfortable overtime happiness has fallen and I did some digging. So they're talking about there was a quote in here. I can't remember where it was showing how happiness has fallen out to the data source bend the General Social Survey. Scroll down you'll see this happiness overtime does this look alarming to you? Okay it's basically there. was a spike up in the eighties men. It's basically been flat since it came down that. So this data talks about people say they're very happy pretty happy not too happy and if you just had no information and you saw this chart, you would say, all right. So happiness over time is pretty much unchanged, correct yes. The graph looks fairly similar the story Atlantic. was going through all these different reasons why things have gotten better but it hasn't made people. Any happier and maybe think people have gone a little less apt but here point, it's basically the same. So that is my point I don't necessarily think or I. Don't really believe that we're any less happy than we used to be. I just think that you would think life has gotten so much better. Why aren't we happier I think that is absolutely true like he goes through this thing and says new homes in two, thousand, sixteen or one thousand square. Feet larger than nineteen seventy-three living space per person has on average doubled. So you're saying like new, we have smartphones, we have the Internet. We have all this stuff that makes a little more comfortable what happiness hasn't budged at all and that's relatively surprising. Those are all material possessions right that wears off very very quickly. So I definitely think there is something to the fact that the Internet and social media is making us less happy sort of on the margin. Society. But I think that people are sort of as happy as unhappy as they've always been. But why aren't we happier is a real question by the way I've always been of the mindset that I buy into the experiences of way more valuable than buying stuff. But over the quarantine period and there's nothing to do I, don't know buying stuff actually Kinda help not gonna lie really tell me what you helped i. I'll Peleton but a Peleton about some whatever. It actually kind of helped when there's nothing else to do but. We'd situation. This questions. My wife and I are beginning to look for our first house but the market is still crazy when it comes to asking prices and most houses need renovations. Done it on our price range wanted to buy a house. We'd have to put seventy, five, thousand, one, hundred, thousand dollars in front of Asians. But inadequately to pay for the renovations upfront markle larger mortgage help pay for those renovations considering interest rates are so low. That's a bad idea if you're going to immediately put the work in and potentially increase the value of your home in rates are so low and you don't WanNa, tap your retirement accounts or take out credit card debt or whatever to pay for it. I see no problem with that. But how does take on a larger mortgage helped pay for these renovations? Okay. Let's say you buy a house for three hundred, thousand dollars yet one hundred K. and renovations. You've taken a mortgage for four hundred. Can you do that? Yeah and you use the difference for spending purposes I did not know that yeah. Some places will let you do that especially with rates being so low when you're paying that money off over time instead of upfront and Messi liquidity I think it's a great idea. I feel such an idiot if you have a bank that will allow you to do it. Yeah. Go for it. I feel like that's like a game changer piece of information for me because when I was looking for houses, I wanted something that was pretty much done because to my point earlier about the plumber ripping me off if I could have taken money out and also I think it's more economical. If you can afford to buy a house, it's done because once you start paying out of pocket for renovation I mean it becomes cost prohibitive for. Everyone, I've never done this before. So I, don't know if you're taking a construction loan or how it works maybe someone can point us to how that would work but I have heard of people doing this before and it makes sense. Okay. That's interesting. Good information. The direction that I was going to go was Instead of maybe doing the renovation get has already done and look into a company pay a little more pay more, and if you need help with down payment, look into a company like unison or one of their competitors. So those are companies that will help with the down payment and then participate in the equity later on on your episode hard being rich listener had sent in A. Question about his friend that thinks the financial system is going to collapse and to crypto and gold to hedge that risk you suggested sending the seduction of pessimism that friend to the listener I have a similar friend. So I sent that to him as well. Everyone has that friend of course, and he sent me these two charts this chart crimes what say you reasonable cause for concern. Not to be a jerk but we laughed when we got these because one of them is a chart, it's an arithmetical chart. It's just a line that's zero, and then all of a sudden goes straight up and that shot is the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve saw okay there you go the other chart and wanting to describe the other chart. It's the worst chart all finance. Wow, and I say that with no reservations. So it shows. Currencies overtime in the show, their value in Golden. Of course, it's from a gold website, but gold is just a straight line. Yeah. Goals constant in all these other see I've seen these before like they show the value of a dollar crashing. If you showed the value of dollar from nine hundred thirteen when the Fed takeover to now it be worth three cents in that is the dumbest thing I've ever. Heard because why would piece of paper be worth more money over time? So if you invested in one month t-bills since nine, hundred, twenty six, that's effectively a savings account. You would have had twenty one times a returning your money versus just bearing in your backyard. So of course, if you just took dollar bills and Baird Mir, backyard guess what they're not worth as much anymore that's what this is saying. This charter shall we is every currency crashing relative to gold? Yes. I love the Reich mark to and yeah, it's Great This is an absolute crime against shark mandate is you're going to solitary confinement for this tar. Crime. recommendations. Okay Biggest For. Me Wow. The Best Book I've was my expectations versus Matthew mcconaughey book I. Read This thing over the weekend the entire book hit two sittings fricking. Loved it. I thought it was GONNA be terrible. I've seen him promoting social media in someone said, Hey, you got to listen to McConnell. On part my take because he talks about Hugh grant there because I talked about this last weekend. That's amazing. So I, listened to the interview with hang on hang on I have to drop the biggest upset of the year I've always kind of let them like movies but I've always kind of thought he was of that guy is this guy really serious serious stuff he seems like he gives off like fortune cookie advice and I totally underestimated him. So he was on part might take you don't Ha- everyone has that friend that tells amazing stories but you know half of it is embellished but you don't really care because. It's such a good story. That's him. He's like total bullshitter but his stories were amazing and he's an amazing storyteller. So I went into it thinking like Oh. This book looks awful. It's just him spouting off his wisdom, but it was excellent. I read it in two sittings your McConnell stand I thought I always thought he's like again one of those guys but his stories were amazing. Even though like half of my like probably didn't happen but it's a great story but honestly, they could probably make this book into a movie probably will if they could find someone to play him, who's GonNa play Matthew mcconaughey Maybe Matthew mcconaughey. But his story is amazing. I was just blown away how much I love. It's Best Book I've read this year, and if you told me that a week ago, I said you're nuts but I loved it chiming tatum should play Matt mccown. Not. Bad. The big picture by Ben Fritz was a couple years ago and Ryan Russillo and Bill Simmons we're talking on podcast recently, it's about the movie industry and specifically Sony and I love it because it takes a look at how Sony basically missed the boat in the changing of the guard from regular movies to Superhero movies and I think you can learn way more from those businesses that missed out on something even though they're at the top and then they fell because they mississippi change. So really good. Movie Book Marvel came out and no one wanted him how it really wasn't a foregone conclusion that'd be the biggest franchise in the world movie for the weekend hunt for the wilder people was by the same guy who did Joe Joe Rabbit. So you probably wouldn't again this is another one that you wouldn't like head that same tone where it's very dry humor but I liked it who would like it if you like Joe Rabbit you'd like this. Okay. So people who have like empathy motion in their heart. called. Finally, my dad is like the world's biggest Michigan Fan in college football and he put like emotional hedge against Michigan playing this week he drove to a sportsbook in northern Michigan and put a bet against Michigan I. Think he was trying to do like the reverse jinx on them who are playing Minnesota whatever he bet on Minnesota to beat Michigan and Michigan one. So don't you think that's a good use case for sports gambling in the future if you. Just do it on your phone robinhood your big giants Fan. You bet against the giants for every big game if they win us on who cares that'd be a great strategy if they lose. Okay you want some money that takes off the plate a little bit. How about those lines? Yeah I mean whatever the Falcons are cursed French. Sports but yeah Nice. Little W yesterday. Yeah. We'll probably go seven nine and lose not Thanksgiving okay that's all I got. So verda their interned do some quantitative analysis on movies? This is great. He basically found that he looked at IMDB metacritic I believe. So as a relationship between audiences and how successful movies were, and he said the films that were hit with the audience but despised by critics had big budgets and produce strong our allies whereas films our hit with critics but had lower audience ratings were smaller budget films that produce extraordinary. High our allies. So I guess the ones that didn't do so great were the ones that were sort of in the middle, not big budget but not independent either this is movies versus films and I'll take movies every ten at ten dimes. Here's what he did. He built a list of the ten films with Revenue Greater Than Twenty million dollars where the difference between the audience scoring the critic score was the greatest. Look. At this Ben figure five I cannot agree more with this I. Don't know about you I love the butterfly effect. Yeah. Kind of like that one too I actually kinda liked it probably haven't seen in ten years great movie. Josh. Hartnett. I can't remember that's Ashton Kutcher. Okay. So I am seventy seven, metascore thirty get Outta here critics. Billy Madison, the top, of course, the great outdoors to awesome movie patch Adams. How did not let patch Adams I mean that is kind of surprising to feel like that's a movie. So then on the other side, they had the critics favorite films relative to the broader audience this really surprised me free willy. How did free? Will he get on there? What do you? What critics love Free Willy Number One, the wheel jumped over the boy. So inspiring. I saw that in the theaters anyway, that was a fun piece I. Don't remember where I saw this but. First Time ever China's box office overtakes North America. Okay. So in the big picture book that Ben, Fritz Guy Talks about how that's the biggest development happened. That China is taking over the US how they make movies is just geared towards China now I saw on Hbo Max. I saw the trailer it looked interesting your HBO Max Stand by the way. You can. Just. Throw it out there. It's called ready or not Margot Robbie marriage into this insanely wealthy family and on her wedding night she has to basically hide they play, hide and seek, and if they find her killer, it's a silly and ridiculous as I just described it but they're in on the joke they know that it is. So it's sort of like over the top. It's sort of like get out in that sense that it's horror slash comedy. So if you like that genre, this was good enough great but I, enjoyed it. Did. You Watch try the Chicago seven? No not yet my list. So it was pretty good. It was very sorkin a Sasha Baron Cohen is sort of like a modern day Abbie Hoffman what do you mean? So his character was a social activist. What do you do with Borat this weekend did you watch? Now I don't know if I will. Laugh. I I like it. I feel like I just know what it's going to be when he had the allergy show, I watched every one of them. So borat the first boy was obviously better because nobody knew who he was and he could fool everybody. So this was Borat in character and the scenes where he jokes people is still incredible I mean there were three or four belly laughs for me the rest of the movie where it's him interacting with his daughter the. Whole Kozaki stuff I didn't care for, but I mean, it's worth watching what else you do the fact that he can stay in character for so long as these things are going haywire is pretty impressive. There's three or four I was crying. So just for that alone is worth it and then I re watched the social network which I probably haven't seen in ten years also stick with Sorkin theme that movie was like pretty flawless. I don't remember how good it was. Yeah and they kind of nailed the fact that Marc. Not a great guy. I think that's Right now I was shocked how good it was. Yeah. It is an excellent movie alright on Friday. We're talking again with Bruce. Bon. Credit where credit is due Ben. We spoke with Bruce Bond and March two, thousand, nine hundred and about his innovator ETF and where we bullish bullish on that as a business I think we said if we could invest in interview ETF's itself we would because we thought that idea. So excellent, they have crushes as far as I'm aware the ETF's have raised a decent amount of interest from investors. So on Friday, we're talking to him again about their stack ETF, which is a another spin on what they're doing. So versus a really sharp guy looking forward to. Balan. Animal spirits pod gmail.com. Thank you very much for listening. We will see next time.
Episode 23: Morning Time Morning Time
"I'm Karen Michelle were sisters and Homeschool MOMS. Welcome to the layers of learning podcast. Where where we talk about family style? Home Schooling Hi. This is shell here with Karen. Hello we are going to talk with you today about morning time morning. Time is a trend in home schooling. Where people just their family gathers together and they do some things together that maybe they don't fit into other categories of their home school day so they put them in morning time? I think often it's kind of a gathering at the beginning of the day like okay. Let's start our day and not not really different than when in elementary school. You had kind of calendar time and everybody would meet on the rug and things like that. I think it's become a way for families to signal the start of the day. Yeah and it's a nice routine to put in place so that everyone gets into the mental mindset of school but it's usually not the a tough things it'll be a little bit easing into the day. It's a gentler. Start to your home school day. Sometimes people call it morning meeting or morning basket or all kinds of things. It's all all the same thing. It's just that little gathering time in preschool. They call it circle time. But it's just that time where everybody gathers together and you get to spend a little bit of time gently starting your day and there's not an exact thing that you need to do for morning time today. We just want to give you a lot of fun ideas of things that you can incorporate into to your morning time and you can include whatever you want. You're going to come up with things that we haven't come up with and you definitely should not include everything that we mentioned. It should be a few things that you do every morning. And it's a fine for these to change over time. What you do for morning time today might not be what you do tomorrow or next month or next year? It should always be an evolving thing. That changes as your home. School needs change as your interests. Change as you see something different that your children need to focus on whatever for it is is working for you at the moment. I've seen people that get ideas for morning time and just keep adding and adding an adding to their morning time and then they get burned out both by the intense planning that it's involving and also it's ending up taking a huge chunk out of their school day and they go. Wow I don't actually have time to do all of these things and the problem is that they're trying to do all the things every day and that's not really the idea that I take in our morning time what do you i. I actually don't really plan morning time at all and we spend maybe ten minutes and like I said we we do different things at different times so sometimes we have done memorization during morning time and other times. We don't do that. You know it it just depends on what we need at the moment so it can change. I don't like like I said I don't plan mine very much. I don't plan mine either. I have a lot of ideas in my pocket and I actually have a a little basket. It's got some poetry autry books and it has some art books a few things so that if I need to grab something I can just grab it out and we can do it but usually it's much more spur of the moment for me too to and it's not super involved. It's not super long. It doesn't take away from our day. It's just a good signal as the start of our day so you might spend ten minutes. I mean people spend up to two hours or even longer. I actually think one of the reasons they do. That is because it's a family time and they're enjoying having their family all of their children together learning at the same time we're layers learning home school. We do that. That's our normal. We do that all day for every subject. Almost we don't do that for math but for almost every subject we're all learning together as a family anyway so the odd part is when they're on their own and most of it. We have very much a family school. So yeah are morning time. We don't need to extend into huge long stretches of time because our entire day is very family based I also think there are. There's so many little things that would be fun to add into your home school and they can all sound like. Oh I want to do that and I want to do that but if you realize I can do poetry I can focus on that for a little a while and then I can switch to doing this other thing. You don't need to do them all at once right. You don't have to say oh. We have to do a poem every day and we need to look at a painting every day and I want my kids to see a scientist of the week and I want to have you know you start adding in too much and all of a sudden your morning. Time isn't the gentle. Start to the day that you're looking for in the first place. It's just a planning burden and everybody goes. Wow this is a lot. That's not really the goal that you're going for so you might plan Dan more than we do but don't over plant it. I also enjoy change. I find that when we start a new little thing. It kind of re energizes all of us and if you can do that throughout the year like switch it up throughout the year then that will give it a little spark the spark that you need and kids get excited to start something new but not if it's Oh we have to start something new and still do everything that we had before we just have more and instead you can say okay. We're going to do this for a little while and this for a little while and some things we don't even do in an extended way at all. I'll just say hey today we're GonNa do a painting tomorrow. We're going WANNA discuss a really interesting quote. ooh something interesting happened as a headline in the news. So we're going to talk about it and you don't have to decide we'll every Monday. We're going to do a painting every Tuesday we're going to do. It doesn't need to be that organized. Even it's fine to just do it on the fly and if you only did one painting that year great I mean it. It's fine fine. These are extras. They're not requiring extras. They're just interesting little fun things to add into your if you think of is just Oh. I'm just going to pick out things that caught. What my attention and keep a few things on hand so that you're never come up with nothing? I have a folder of famous paintings things. And it's just this little file folder and their paintings that I have gathered over the years that are kind of the ones that I love and so I pull out one of the pictures and I talked to my kids about what they see. In the worker we'd learn a little bit about the artist. We point out some of the techniques that they used or the country they came from and we discuss thus things that wasn't planned that spur of the moment. But what I did do is stick into my basket. This file folder of paintings so it wasn't a mental hardship for me to go. What are we GONNA do for morning time available some things and then I could just grab one out so you might have a book of poetry? Maybe an anthology of Children's poems that you just keep keep in your basket. We have this Shel Silverstein where the sidewalk ends book in ours. And so if I sense that my kids are having kind of a grouchy she morning almost always also fixes it right up. We're all laughing in a few minutes as we read one of his poems. Now if I had planned that we we might have enjoyed a shel Silverstein poem but instead I just gauged. My kids are a little grouchy and I used one and then it actually benefited us in a lot of ways as you know and it wasn't planned but it was available. So how many things Karen do you think that you keep on hand kind of as your backup for if you don't have something that sparked your interest that you went. Oh Hey I want to make make sure I want to. You know you come up with nothing that morning if you keep what are you. Keep on hand so I have about probably ten or fifteen little books that are poetry we have one. That's Bible stories because we are religious. I also have my little art folder. I also have some little children's magazines. They keep on hand that just have science articles and things like that that are interesting and so when our subscription comes I just stick that in our basket and so that's always changing. Well that's great and yeah I like that. Yeah so it's not one specific solid thing that we have and then I also have actually made this a few years ago. I have a folder of songs that I just took the lyrics to like Anna Maniac songs and little their school ish type songs but the silly ones like there's one that it helps us memorize the planet and different things like that and so we pull out our little song book and we'll choose a little song to sing sometimes. We don't sing every day. But that's what's there in the basket so if that's what we choose to do that day there. We also have a folder. That has poems that we've memorized so we'll sometimes pull that out and we actually do quite a bit of memory work in in our morning time because my kids love to memorize poems and so we'll flip through and review some of the poems that we've memorized. Learn a new one. So so you actually you collect elect some of your own like you make your own anthology. Essentially I do. I have some poetry books and things like that that are just things that I purchased but also as we do things this is my kids particularly enjoy them in particular I will so you just want to sign up. Put it in a folder out and it's there yeah it's just. They're sitting in our folder. I'd say Oh that would be really fun to do again or we're just to read again and they remember. Yeah so I just have a little basket and I keep all those things. I also have some a few flash cards in there which we don't frequently do but we have some animal flash cards and they like to read the fun facts on the back of the flash cards so sometimes I'll say hey Isabel. Do you want to share an animal today and that will be our morning thing that we do that day. So they're just sitting there and we can grab whatever we feel like so one thing that I like to keep on. Hand is Games Games and Educational Games. We love the professor Noggin Games. They're like little trivia but their school subject so it'll be like animals of North America or it'll be countries of the world things like that and we'll play those games and the kids love those. It doesn't feel like school at all which I don't feel like morning times should feel like no. It's kind of fun. One shouldn't be fun a little bit life. Sometimes I just grab a bookshelf and share a funny story or you know just a a picture book especially during holidays if it's a holiday or Seasonal time. Oh it's the start of fall. I might grab a book from our shelf. I have one shelf in our office library. That's all for holidays isn't seasons and so when it comes around to that time I just grab some of those books so another another game that we enjoy. We have several math games like nick multiplication war or things like that that we place. We'll do those There's there's lots of stuff like that. That's really fun. We have the board game version of. Are you smarter than a fifth grader. My kids love playing that for our morning time they would they would say hey. Can we just keep going and we won't do school today now. We're still. This is just the morning you know what who else would be great for morning. Time is the big book of Knowledge. Oh yeah every Friday. Yeah that's a big book of knowledge is a layers of learning thing. Karen came up with a bit. So basically as you're going through your school day if you when you come across facts about whatever you're learning about so you're learning about something in history you just keep track aca the facts on a piece of paper you just write it down and we put it in your book of knowledge and then later you use that to quiz the kids on and you do the quizzes in a game. kind of format map right. They basically I asked the question. And my kids have these little buzzers buzzing and then they answer the question they get house points for it. We've got little jars with house points joints. My Big Book of knowledge is just basically blank card stock. That's three hole punched and then has the big ring in it and then as we learn things we just jot them down. It's also not super preplanned. No and sometimes people ask me. Oh do you have. Do you have questions for every single unit. I don't always sometimes. Sometimes we really enjoyed a unit. But we didn't really add anything that made it to the big pretty often. It involves most of the subjects but especially like art. We don't necessarily add a lot of art concepts to our big book of knowledge. It's a very loose game but it's just a fun way to review what we're always doing so we always always do that on Fridays. Look forward to it. That's a great thing to add into morning time So memorization for sure. And there's all kinds of things you can memorize that you could do in morning time so nope some people. Memory scriptures or poems quotes things like the order of the planets or the multiplication tables. Those could be memorization. Things and those are all things that it doesn't matter. What age is your kids are they can all just practice memory work and you can make it really fun to to do it? I actually taught my kids last week. We were doing head shoulders knees and toes and other languages so they were memorizing Tech Day. Palsy new on all of the different rent like a few different languages and they love that. They're like we WANNA do that every morning. If we actually did it every morning it would get boring. So it's just something that you know. We just throw things is in. That are fun and layers of learning has memorization station sidebars. So those are ideas of things that you could put into your morning time memorization instead of doing it during layers. Here's of learning time. You could move that to morning time. Yeah and if you're like me and you want to keep a basket for your morning plans. All that it takes is just writing down. That thing that you're working on memorizing on a piece of paper you can type it and print it or you can just grab a sharpie and write it down and then you stick it in a folder and and then it's right there for you. The memory work has therefore you don't have to dig through the layers of learning books and everything once you've done it you just remember it and if your kids do it every couple of months. Even they'll remember those memorization station things forever. Yeah it just gets in your mind recently. One of our memorizing things that we were doing during morning time was the countries of South America. We've been learning about South America and I wanted them to know where all the countries were a map so they had to not only know the countries but you know where where they belonged on the map and so I actually wrote up on her. I used a wet erase marker and I wrote on her sliding door are glass door so I drew freehand drew the map of South America on glass door and then they had to name them as I pointed to the different countries. So you were in different order. And they'd have to say yeah and when I started out by putting the first letter of each country in in its spot on the map so there's a clue A. B. for Brazil and and so they had to they started with that and then erased them and they were able to still do it. So you are racist like one by one you a race to country and then they like race the B. Yeah and then soon they can do it and they could they they know them all no so to them. It's a game it's fun see. We learned the song to the South American countries when we did it. There's a song long you can. It's on Youtube. If I found a song and we played it didn't resonate with the boys depends on your kid. Depends on your kid. I actually learned that song in Spanish Ernest class in junior high. And I know I still knew it. Yeah that's how I know the South American countries because I learned the song so you know it doesn't matter how you learn it as long as you repeat it often enough enough that it stays in that brain and morning time is really great for things like that you just want to review. Yeah you can do. Things like memorizing passages from plays like Shakespeare my kids their first introduction to Shakespeare was actually memorizing part of Soliloquy from from Hamlet. Kate that it was the first thing that they did and they got so into it. They absolutely love Shakespeare now because they memorized that passage. They're very into. I think Garrett can still say the whole thing really good I don't think I can. Let's not test me well. That's one of the Nice things about morning time. It doesn't feel like you're taking a test or there's not a lot of pressure involved in this part of your home school day so kids can really just enjoy it and they actually learn a lot. We go over a lot of things and talk about a lot of things but not in any sort of this. Is the curriculum type of way. It's just it's very casual casually learning about things as a family which is fun and you can just bring in whatever you as the parent teacher are feeling like your kids could use right then whether it's all we need a little bit of light hearted herded fund. So we're GONNA do some silly poetry or maybe you need to memorize things right now or maybe you really need to work on character development and so times tables table on my Gosh Josh. That takes a decent amount of out of out of morning time to master those times tables. Another thing I love to do with my kids. Altogether is reading being allowed. We we almost always have a novel going if we don't is because we've taken a short break and we'll get one going again soon so I read it aloud to my kids now. I don't always do it during morning time because I have like. I'll do it during lunch or I always have one book that all all of my kids including my college kids will come and listen to in the evening and so that one. We don't do in in time because they would miss it. Yeah we usually read are read aloud around lunchtime to. That's just kind of our family thing we've just always done but often I will grab a book that I read aloud to them during morning time. That's just like a picture book or something sometimes something that we picked up from the library. Sometimes it's one of the things that we're learning about in our are layers of learning topics. It's just an interesting thing but it's usually a little bit more lighthearted fun Book Sharing Fun Book. Yeah like I remember the first time I m I read my kids rikki tikki Tembo no so Rambo. Have you ever read that book. I don't think how it's such a huge book. It's it's this story about this boy who has such a long name that when he falls down the well his brother's trying to tell their mom rikki tikki Tembo no so Rambo Chari by route she pinball Oh has fallen down the well wow that was good he has to say it so many times in his name is so long that it's hard to tell that this tragedy tragedy has happened and so anyway it goes into this whole story and talking about why the Chinese name one syllable names. Oh that's why it's just a cute fund story but I remember the first time I read that to my kids. It was during morning time and by the end of the story. They're all reciting it with me. RIKKI TIKKI Tembo no Seremban. Everybody was repeating chant and the bear wants more when you read that book by the end of the book. Everybody's is saying saying it so we just do fun stories like that and that's that's a good morning time thing so something that we're doing that I just started is current events and they can be interest. I don't have any really small children. I wouldn't do this with you know six year. Old Seven year olds. I would only do it with middle grades UP PROBABLY BUT WE'RE WATCHING CHING CNN ten everyday. It's it's really good. It's a news to ten minute news thing and it's geared towards kids so they don't put things on there that are graphic thinker terribly disturbing but they put some real news events on there so this is online not like TV. Yes online so just search for C. N. N.. Ten Okay and and you can find it. The other day they had a story about how Turkey is invading Syria so they do have some real news things on there but then they'll also talk about. I don't know some something about legos or it's geared to kids but it's not they still do have real news things so it's a chance for you to talk to your kids about what's going on high interest. Yeah and they keep it heard it in funny. Kind of the the the newscaster at the end. He always does all all these puns. And I'm just sitting there kind of like I just died a little bit inside because that was bad jokes. Dad The kids like it. It's it's Q.. Oh that's a good idea for holidays. We often will do a little special something for the holiday. Like I might tell my kids where the holiday came from or we. He might read a book or do a song or a poem or something that has to do with the holiday that were on so. That's one of the fun things a really good idea. 'cause I'm always kind of trying to figure out how to fit. Holidays is in to our home school and I don't Wanna spend an entire day. Do you remember when you were in school and the whole day would be kind of a party day. Yeah and the math would be halloween. Wean themed in the. You'd have this party and it kind of ruined the whole day. I mean it from the teacher from my from the perspective of the child it was fun but it's kind of a wasted today and I don't really have time in my life to spend wasted days on homeschool and honestly with just your family. It's not like you're GONNA go okay. Let's have an assembly with a costume assume parade and I mean you might do a few things like maybe a Halloween art project or something. But you're not actually going to spend the whole day or if you do that required a lot of planning. Yeah that's it's a lot of work but you can just throw in a few things in morning time and then yeah. They can color a picture in morning time. And it's not a waste because it was morning earning time you can throw whatever you want in there. Yeah it's really flexible. I also like to character training with my kids during morning time. Sometimes yeah and that could be. It depends pinched depending on your philosophy could be Gospel or scripture type. Things a lot of people like to have their children memorize scriptures. Or they'll put they'll just read them together. I also really liked the book virtues. It has. It's just a collection of stories that all teach some kind of a moral lesson but it's not religious adjust per se it's just virtues and then I really love this book too. It's called philosophy for kids. It's by David a white and he's a PhD. He's a philosopher sopher and he wrote this book for kids and what you do is as the parent you read it and has these questions to ask kids and it gets them into the deep stuff and you could just take this and ask one question and have a family discussion. I really fun. Yeah along with the Children's book of virtues that same series has others to we have one. That's the Children's book of Heroes. was that we really like so. That's actually over in my morning basket right now but anything that you want to put in you just have it ready and you can grab it out without planning and spur of the moment. Have a little delightful morning time. I think character training. That's a really really good thing to throw in your kids. Kids don't want to be lectured to constantly about that stuff but you do want to teach them those things in really thoughtful ways and sometimes sometimes I think we only teach honesty when our kids lie and it's better if we can teach honesty in a separate setting with the story or something like that not just when they've done something wrong we're teaching them the virtue but instead just talk about it all the time in a natural way so morning times really good for those kinds of discussions another thing that we like to do in our home school is I just notice if there's an important thing that I want to talk about but it's just kind of a one time deal that goes in morning time. It doesn't really make it into my formal plans like this isn't a holiday per se but on nine eleven Kevin. I had an incredible discussion with my kids. It occurred to me I was talking to them about nine eleven and yeah they were aware of it. They knew because we've had this other for years. But when I talked about the planes crashing into the towers my kids became really curious and they were like they really like crashed. What happened when they crashed and they were asking me questions about the physical part of what was going down and in occurred to me? They weren't alive then. I saw it. I watched it but they I had never actually seen that and so we pulled up some videos on youtube and we watched what happened and talked about how devastating that was and the loss that occurred after and then I described how in America we really came together for a long time after that. You remember how there were flags everywhere cars they pull talking about politics and started talking about people. Yeah and so anyway we just got into some interesting discussions about that. And that's not the kind of thing that I would say. We need to halt homeschool Alan and say on this or putting your lesson plans. Yeah but fits perfectly and morning time. We had a little morning time on that and it was really really good and I. I think that's one of the reasons I don't pre plan everything because I wouldn't preplanned meticulously enough to go with the flow of what will happen in our home school so I would rather just have have things available and then let it flow from that day so if you just gathered start by just gathering a couple of resources that you can just kind of stick in your basket or on on your shelf that you know you can grab and then over time you can gather a few more here in there and start keeping a list of things. Maybe that you could pull out for morning time. I am a big fan of Pinterest so keep a pinterest board. That has ideas I might want to include in morning time I enjoy doing that so if I just coming across something and and my feet will go. Oh that will be fun for morning time and I can stick it in my pinterest so you have kind of an idea bank. Yeah that works well but I do really really love that. I don't don't have everything meticulously planned. Because then I just get to fit it to our family. It just feels like an organic part of what we do. Oh instead of something that if I don't get to it's a stress to me it just gets to be a really fun part of our day. That's relaxed. It's relaxed for me to not just my kids kids. I didn't stress over it. I just enjoyed it right so do you. Do you have any regular routines Karen or do you just always changed up and well we have of a routine but okay. Here's our routine I do. We always start with a prayer because we are religious family so we do a prayer and then a song and then a scripture and then the pledge of allegiance. And that's not going to be everybody's routine that's just kind of what our family has fallen into. And so my kids actually kind of take turns leading at one kid will pray and then one kid will lead the song and so we just kind of rotate around. It's not organized. It's just hey we're going to do this little thing and really. The only reason we do that is that it's a signal to the start of our day if not everyone is instantly there. It's okay gives us this little it. It gives them all the time to mentally prepare for school right but then is the part that is actually kind of what I consider our morning time after that we do one one thing so I'll grab something out of the basket and that's when I might share a poem or we might do a memorization or you know it. That's where the variety comes in and so the first part is just kind of the signal. Whatever your signal is to the start of your day and then we do our little morning here? I really like that. You're just doing one thing because you can choose. Well we really want to get into this philosophy for kids book and I want to do it for for a little while but then when we get tired of of it or if the kids sort of fizzle out on it I can just change it up or if you're if you're doing it but then it's the first day of fall you might stop and say let's do something for the first day of fall and then we'll go back to the book tomorrow tomorrow. Yeah and just to leave it like just pick one thing today that keeps it under control and I think it keeps it from becoming a burden. It doesn't intrude too much into your regular school day and you don't have to start planning these big elaborate morning times. I look at it kind of like. I used to look at field trips when I was a young homeschool mom. I felt like I had to plan a lot of field trips because that was my responsibility to take my kids to to do these field trips and I still very much value field trips. But I don't feel like we have to have field trip Friday and go every single week and I must pre plan meticulously all the things that we do. I'm always is watching for opportunities. And yes absolutely we take field trips. That's a big part of our home. School is that we go out in the world and experience things but I don't stress stress over the field trips like I did when I was younger and I see them. If something's becoming a source of stress in your home school you need to step back and look at it and say how can can we adjust this. It was a stress because I thought that I had to do it. Every Friday field trip Friday was I have to do it and I ran out of places to go when I didn't know what to do and I was stressed that I was failing and morning. Time should not be a source of stress. This should be and you don't you don't have to do morning time. It's a trend in home. homeschooling and it can be fun and it can be rewarding. But if it's not for you you don't have to do it. Yeah I hear MOMS say my kids are not morning people. If I tried to start that that would be a revolt. First of all it doesn't have to be in the morning at lunchtime or in the evening. It's just gathering ties gathering time and you can give it a different name. We were actually trying Ryan to come up with a good name. Didn't so if you guys have any ideas we'd love to hear. We want brilliant gathering time. Nee something that sounds cool and not homer schoolmarmish we something cool that our kids with. We weren't brilliant ideas. We were trying to come up with a Harry Potter based one because we love having Harry Potter in our home schools. But we couldn't do it. I guess we need to reread the books with that intention homework but and it really should be just a gentle start to your day or even end to your day. If that's going to be the end of your home school day. I like that it starts us out because we all start kind of on on the same page. Yeah it's it's a way to start your day it. Does it does help. Get your kids in that mental mood for school but I can see it also working really well in the evening. Yeah well in in bed. I've talked to MOMS who they say. I have one kid. That's a morning kid and one kid who came up before ten he's GonNa be he's GonNa ruin the rest of our day and so they do school like they do the math and hard things with their one kid who is a morning person and that's kind of that kids individual time and I would not destroy that if I had a dynamic like that going I wouldn't say drag the kid out of bed having morning time and yeah if that doesn't work then that doesn't work it's not going to serve anyone so it might be at dinnertime or bedtime emmer lunchtime but it is fun to just kind of a rotating little moment of learning one of the reasons I like. It is because you can throw in those little things that feel random. They don't feel like they fit into any of your normal subjects. Yeah like philosophy for kids that is not going to become a major subject in my school. I keep bringing back to that but anyway it's it's not going to become a major subject. I'm not going to set aside an entire semester. To just do this book it's not going on a transcript. Yeah it's it's just something extra. I think it'd be fun to throw in. I came across the book a few years ago. I bought it. I've never really used it but now I'm gonNA stick it in my morning basket and I'll just have to pull out when when I am inspired two. Yeah that's that's how I have found that it works best for us is to not over plan not over think. Just have some things available so that this is just a source of joy not stress in your home school. Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate you listening to us. And don't forget to share if you can subscribe to the layers of learning podcasts. That would be awesome and let other people know that we're here and let them share in a two. Thanks so much bye bye. I thank you for joining us today. Come and visit us at layers learning dot com and on our facebook group. Make sure the tune in next month for our new podcast. In the meantime we wish you happiness in your home. 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Terror in Tennessee
"Well Hey there imagine running into you here. I have been dying to tell you about the Holly Bobo Case I've spent hours over the last couple of weeks weeks researching every single thread of newspaper articles video audio available about this case and I think I've answered a few of my own questions. I hope I can answer some of yours. My name is amy. This is true crime recaps APPS. I know you're busy. I'm going to break down this crazy ass case in under an hour. I usually shoot for thirty minutes but this one is a big one so I think I'm GonNa do it in about thirty five and trust me. You're GonNa thank me murder mayhem time management. What could be better? Let's jump into it. When the beautiful blonde twenty year old nursing student Holly Bobo literally walked away from her house and to her death in April twenty eleven then no one in her tiny town of Darden Tennessee thought that holly singing peace in the valley at Church would end up being such a frequent tragic foreshadowing soundtrack to her murder and the tangled mess of justice there will be blooming agree stick with me to the end of this episode and you're GonNa know as much about this case as those people that have been following since twenty eleven which is like to say a you're gonNA have a lot of information and you're GonNa know why Dylan Adams Adams and Jason Autry are in jail but you won't know for sure if they really absolutely definitely did it and if they did really early for sure do it then? Why did they really for sure do it to Holly Bobo of all the girls that they could have really done this too? It's probably the legal description for the state of this case. I mean look you're practically as good. Has Anyone on the legal team on this case already so we're off to a good start. The only place to start in this crazy bizarre case is that the Coon Hut on April ninth twenty eleven or no or is it in Florida when Natalie Alibaba was brought back to Tennessee a couple of months before all this happened. Oh no all right. Let's give it a start at Holly's House that Morning April thirteenth twenty eleven. Let's let's dive in friends. Luckily we have a timeline for events. We know happens probably out and side now. These people wake up really early. Okay Four Thirty A M April Thirteenth Twenty Eleven Holly Wakes Up to study for a nursing exam. She was scheduled to take at eight A._M.. That morning five thirty a m her dad Dana Bobo says a few words to her through her bedroom door before he leaves for work he also leaves some gas many on the kitchen counter for her which is incredibly sweet six twenty three A._M.. Sunrise Seven A. M. Her mother Karen Bobo. She teaches at the local elementary school. She's getting ready to leave but I she stops to make collie breakfast. Apparently Holly had requested Muffins and she fixed her lunch while holly sat at the dining room table continuing to study clint her brother. He still in his bedroom asleep seven. Oh Five A. M. Holly talks on the phone to Hannah reese a friend of hers from Nursing School. They've been texting about this test. They were GonNa take that day seven twenty five A._M.. She gets a call from drew Scott her boyfriend. He was Turkey hunting on her grandmother's property. Seven thirty Ish A._M.. Another relative of hers seized drew grew hunting and asks what he's doing. There this leads to a series of calls between drew holly and her mother Karen to straighten it all out seven forty a M James Barnes. They're closest neighbor. He lives about seven hundred in fifty feet away. He's in his driveway putting his kids in the car for daycare and he hears arguing at the Bobo House. He says he heard a girl screaming but then she quit and said stop it. Damn it stop it to him. At that time. Obviously it didn't sound serious. It sounded like she was arguing with someone. She knew how many of us don't say stop it damaged. Stop it somebody in the morning but it was weird enough that he stopped at the end of their ferry long driveway to see if he could hear anything else us all was quiet from the house but he still felt weird enough about it that he called his mother and asked her to call Karen and leave a message for her about it at work son. Fact James was also a prime prime suspect at one point. Supposedly the dogs tracked her scent to his house that day and the police hounded him for months trying to get him to confess but back to our timeline seven forty five A._M.. April thirteenth his mother our calls Karen and leaves a message about what he heard at her house with the school secretary seven fifty a m clint Bobo again her brother finally wakes up and let's just listen in as he. Eight and Karen Tell Twenty twenty what happened from there he wakes up to the family dog barking so I decided to get up to see what he was working at Clint hears voices in the carport behind the house. I listen just briefly knocking Taylor. It was a male and the female voice. I never was able to really tell what they were saying. You couldn't tell if they were shouting if they were arguing as I listened a little bit closer I could tell that that was holly's for so I knew it was holly so in my mind the male's voice on new to be drew you know who is her boyfriend it free through the blinds. He spies the strangest thing to figures in the shadows of the garage. Holly was down in the garage and a man in camouflage who identified as drew were knelt down in the garage facing each other unsure more of what's going on and wary of walking into the middle of a quarrel between Holly Andrew Boyfriend Clint calls his mother and he asked me was holly not on escorted. I was Xiguang Hunt withdrew and I said that's not true. Karen Bobo knows Holly's boyfriend is elsewhere that morning Turkey hunting so I instantly knew something was wrong. I could see him where were they. There were walking towards the woods and there's a trail leads you to log in Rhode. Was Your sister walking. An aided cheated on her own. She was walking on her own. She wasn't dragging her. Oh no no so when Clinton told you on the phone holly and drew just walked off into the woods. I said that's not true. Get a gun and shoot him and said you want me to shoot drew and I think that's what I hung up. In call nine one one emergency diamond a full fledged panic by the end daughter police rushed to the houses one Johnson in Rhode followed closely by Dana and Karen Bobo. I ran through the woods calling her name in the garage. There is evidence of a struggle a puddle of blood later confirmed be holidays so police began showing clean up the house like crazy Dana bubba her father later says on the stand that he thought at least fifty people were there including holly's cousin Natalie Bobo key fact she's important to the story later and police weren't just searching on foot. They were also searching cellphone signals. You got it. You'RE GONNA WANNA pay close attention to this. What could you tell from Holly Cell Phone that morning? Essentially for an hour and a half her cell phone traveled all through Decatur county the beating electric pulse of hollies phone travels north to this wooded area near interstate forty and then turns back south by another route at any point is the cellphone stop op moving around eight thirty to nine o'clock that morning her cell phone stop moving for about about twenty to thirty minutes and what do you think was happening at that point. I don't want to think about it. Despite this massive search effort search effort that would later be known as the most expensive and most expansive search in all of Tennessee history holly is nowhere to be seen. There's no sign of her at least until a few weeks after when some of the things that she'd had with that morning start showing up on the side of the road her homework her lunch bag her phone and Sim card these are all showing up as will later learn near some of the key suspects homes you got it might be important later but despite these things being found there are no arrests made even though the rumor mill in this community of only twenty five hundred people by the way had already begun to point point fingers most of them at the community's biggest scumbags Zachary Ri- atoms his brother Dylan Adams and their friends among them Shane Austin and Jason Autry a group known as the hey crew because these meth addicts are super super creative on the very same day that holly disappeared sack Adams posted though weirdest most offensive statement on facebook doc that morning at seven thirty nine A._M.. It read you know you never was you stupid Hor O.. K. This sensitive soul was already on law enforcement's radar for his eight-page rap sheet mostly lever math and other drug related crimes robberies a few assault charges one of them for shooting his own mother in the knee in two thousand and four and then threatening to kill his grandparents in two thousand and five <hes> yeah I think I think we can all agree that Zach Adams is a general piece of shit no matter what right okay and because his name kept coming up a couple of weeks after Holly's disappearance Warren Rainy with the Tennessee highway patrol went to his house. Let me repeat a police officer in uniform paid a surprise visit on Meth head in Tennessee backwoods justice set the scene so he said that came to the door without a shirt on looking like he he just woke up. She probably had the officer asked him for the number of his cellphone and Zach wouldn't give it to him. He said his girlfriend Rebecca herb already gave it to the cops. Oh don't you worry we'll get to rebecca later now. When Zack I tried to go inside and grab a shirt the officer said he tried to follow him inside Zach stopped him and asked him to leave saying he didn't have anything to do with Holly? Nobody knows their rights more than a meth addict who has an eight page rap sheet but he was acting scared. Tired and nervous because why he had disappeared holly or because he was a methodist criminal who was paranoid hard to say little did he know that the officer had recruited a group of local guys to help him stakeout Zack's house with Binoculars Lake T._v.. Level stuff so apparently as soon as this officer left can barely say it Zach vacuumed out a black pickup truck for almost an hour her now. That's gotta be unusual specially for a guy like that in one of the guys also saw a mattress leaning against the back of the House that Zach then hose down but even though it looks really fucking bad that behavior we're still wasn't evidence enough to arrest him. A small technicality that was possibly helped along by influential family members apparently sacks grandfather is very well well respected and connected in the city and in the years following Holly's disappearance many local voices shall we say we're spreading rumors of an older guardian angel keeping the real killers dealers out of jail while a handful of other suspects including Clint Bobo where the focus of the investigation so little conspiracy theory there for you doesn't make it wrong now. Almost three ears went by during which Jack himself wasn't exactly making <hes> shall we say strides to change people's mind about his guilt. Apparently he made several comments to his girlfriend and low-life friends that implied he'd had something something to do with Holly's disappearance he said things to his girlfriend rebecca like if she didn't act right he tire up just like you did Holly Bobo and no one would ever see her again or wing coverage of Holly's disappearance came on the news he joke around that they'd they'd never be able to find her and in December of twenty thirteen the T._b.. I raised the reward for information about holly and sack posted a picture of himself on facebook and camel gear with a big old smile and the caption who who am I looking for what an awesome guy but did it make him a murderer. Now the former T. B. I. Agent in charge of the investigation didn't think so in fact he had his eye on someone else from the very beginning a convicted rapist and kidnapper with a thing for victims that looked like holly you know blonde blue eyed beautiful now. This man was known as chester the Molester God bless it. Let's say it again chester the molester but his real name is Terry Brit take a listen to Terry Dyke's telling twenty twenty why he liked him for this crime. Tell me Tarry Brit. He is a horrible horrible humanly and he spent the majority of his life in prison for kidnapping and right and he absolutely perfectly matches description that Clint Bobo provide mm-hmm doctor his entire Alabama was law from start to finish complete and total fabrication quick recap in the recap year Clint's description and said that the man was sort of heavy set about five eleven wearing full camouflage and the voice that he'd heard in the garage was sort of deep and raspy sounding when police gave him a variety of choices to choose from to see if he recognized the one that he had heard the one that he picked out that was closest what he had heard was Terry Brit but it wasn't until Zach Adams played a role in a freshwater Pearl Heist in February twenty fourteen that put him at the top of the suspect list well I mean that and the fact that he held a gun to his girlfriend's sister's head and threatened to got her and it didn't help that he when he was in jail for that pearls thank the hills were alive with the sound of rumors flying about what he and his crew might have done to holly in an election year no less so kit this horrid. This story is bound to be part part of a Netflix documentary down the road because Dylan Adams sacks brother is known to have the mentality of a ten year old. I mean he can't even tell time but he can apparently steal guns because he's arrested on federal gun charges <music> Abbas Zare thing happens he pleads to lesser charges and he's released on the condition that he lives with a retired police officer named Dennis Benjamin who's also coincidentally friends ends with the Bobo family but Dylan. Adams doesn't even know him right. I mean what now five weeks after Dylan was living with Dennis Dennis is called nine one one and says he has someone in his home that wants to confess to the murder of Holly Bobo <hes> okay now Dylan apparently told police that he saw holly alive sitting in a green chair in Zack's living room wearing a pink t shirt that was what she was wearing when she disappeared but who's to know if Dylan came up with that himself or somebody from the police or I don't know Dennis Benjamin the guy he was living with might have helped him with that he also told police that Zack had raped holly and videotaped it. Although this video evidence was never found later Dylan recanted the whole confession saying he had been coerced. But it was too late police indicted Zach Adams Jason Autry and sort of Jason's cousin Shane Austin now Shane was actually given immunity in exchange for his cooperation but three weeks later it was revoked poked and while his attorney was fighting the prosecution about that Shane Hung himself in a Florida hotel room with no record of what he knew or what he was planning to witness to in July twenty fourteen two who more men were arrested in reference to that video tapes that could supposedly made of the Rape Jeffrey peercy and his brother Mark Peercy they were charged with the cesary after the fact tampering with evidence based on allegations made by Jeff's former former roommate Sandra King. She said that Jeff showed her part of a video showing Zach assaulting holly who is obviously tied up and crying Mark Peercy is and this will come as a shock to you since everyone else is involved in this are such stellar citizens but mark is a registered sex offender yeah now this video thing was also discussed by Zach who has said in the years before he was arrested that a video was out there it was right under investigators noses but they would never find it now certainly mark and Jeffrey denied up and down ever seen anything like that God forbid they don't even watch porn and because police could never find any trace of it nor could they connect those two Jeffrey Mark with even knowing Zach and his crew they eventually they had to let him go. Meanwhile sack is apparently making all kinds of jailhouse statements that he wasn't worried about a conviction because quote they got nobody and they got no gun and threatening his brother with messages like you'd better shut up or he'll find himself in a hole next to holly these he was sending through soon to be released or transferring transferring prisoners all of which testified at his trial later fun fact when you're in prison. Maybe don't start breaking about it or making comments about what you may or may not have done to other prisoners since they always show up on trial but by then by some freaking miracle in early September twenty fourteen holly's remains are actually found by Ginseng hunter named Larry Stone apparently he sees a bucket in a wooded area and he's just curious enough to stop and wonder what was going on with that and then holly herself basically stepped in facing the ravine this way wait. There's like somebody turnaround here and when he turned around he saw her skull and that's when he called the police along with it they found rib bones and her jaw bone and in the back of the skull was a very clear clear bullet hole with most of the front lower part of her face blown away. Oh God it's so terrible so now they have a body bucket sack and then dylan was arrested again in late September twenty fourteen on charges that he disposed of items he knew to be of evidentiary value to the case. No idea what that means he was later charged with rape on October Fourteenth Twenty Fourteen and in May Twenty fifteen he was indicted on additional charges of especially aggravated kidnapping and first degree murder so not looking great and and yet with all these charges Zack Dylan and Jason Sat in jail with the prosecution dragging their feet turning over discovery and evidence including even testing confirming that it really was holly's remains that are found the only thing was a lot of what Dylan confessed to didn't match the evidence and there was no d._N._A.. Evidence like at all tying any of them to holly finally in twenty seventeen and Jason Autry basically traded the death penalty for life in prison in exchange for turning state's witness at Zack's trial and telling his version of the story. It's a little different from Dylan's mainly because in Dylan's version version Shane was right there by Zach along with holly at his house her wearing that pink shirt very much alive after she'd been kidnapped in Jason's version he had nothing to do with any of that he was just there for disposing disposing of the body any blamed all of it on sack Shane Austin and Dylan. Oh and he had a couple major bombshells to drop in court concerning Clint Bobo Holly's brother take a listen. He didn't waver much Jason. Autry is no stranger to courtrooms. He like his one time friend. Zach Adams is accused of killing kidnapping and raping Holly Bobo did not kidnap I did not rape and I did not kill Miss Mobile and I did not but allied and said did I didn't have no details to it was all so matter of fact today poetic in a sense as he laid out how he met Zach Adams to buy method holly went missing they should I need you to bury the body in the back of a pickup truck. He told jurors was holly. The body was laying in a multicolored form blanket. The plan autry testified drive to the Tennessee River Gut the nursing students body and throw her in so she wouldn't float now grabbed or torso. You're so mobile Jack come around let tailgate down about two upper torso to the end of the tailgate but holly wouldn't be dumped in the river that day. She was still alive. She sounded distress. Toy cover the blanket autry then told jurors that Zach went into his pickup truck and grabbed a gun boom one shot. If true the testimony would be consistent with a medical examiner of showing a bullet hole in holly skull the most shocking part of the day though when Autry said Zach Adams went to Holly's House the day she was kidnapped to visit her brother. The real reason we were there was to show Klan out of manufacturing. He said we've got early. She come out screaming raising Hale said as you get that he's basically saying that the whole reason behind the why Holly Bobo for all of this is because her brother Clint wanted to know how to make meth and that's why Zach was there at seven A._M.. To what show him how in his family's kitchen it it's just so bizarre but Jason Audrey testified for seven hours so let me out a little bit more information to what was what you heard there in that clip now on the morning of April thirteenth he went to his cousin Shane Austin's house for what he thought was going to be a meth cooking session only to find Dylan Adams burning items in a large barrel Zach Adams standing by his pickup truck and Shane standing at the door yelling for them all to get the hell out of there now Zac asked him for help burying that body that was rolled in that multicolored farm blanket he mentioned in the back of the truck he told Jason It was holly. Bobo and Jason <music> obviously made sure to tell the jury that he never touched her or helped kidnapper but this guy is some kind of hardcore psycho because did you hear that without any emotion he's talking and he says that since they didn't have any tools to bury sorry her body he told Zach that they should gutter and then drop her body in the deep part of the river under the I forty bridge and let the animals dispose of are completely but before they can do that if you remember from his testimony. They were unloading unloading her body from the truck. When Jason says he saw her foot move he heard her make a sound he then said to Zach that fucking bitch is still alive and because he was afraid hollyhead likely heard his name and built their voices and could implicate implicate them? Jason is the one that kind of told him to shoot her in the back of that which he did well Jason looked out for witnesses and again her skull did have that bullet wound in the back in only the killer and on the person with him would have known that it was there so that's major but Jason said he heard Zach Implicate Shane in the rape as well and then he later asked Jason to kill Dylan because he wouldn't stop talking about Holly's please murder and in exchange sack offered to split his future inheritance with Jason and let him live in one of his grandfather's houses. After he died well he would have had a long wait because this guy was still alive at the trial in two thousand seventeen so again Zach suck it although Jason Consecutive because he said that he would do it and he lured dylan out fishing whether whether plan was thwarted when another fisherman who knew Dylan's grandfather thank God pulled up to the boat and started talking to them so they jason was like for sure I can't do it now because we've definitely been seen and identified but in addition to all of that Jason finally linked Zach Adams to holly through not just her brother Clint but also through her cousin Natalie Bobo who had been introduced Zach by his girlfriend at the time Rebecca so Jason said that Natalie was sleeping with Zack in exchange for drugs and she allegedly showed Zach pictures of holly and suggested that she upper threesome with them because of course and he also said that Natalie was working as a stripper at the time of course Natalie totally denies this saying that she was she was a stripper doesn't deny that but not at the time of Holly's disappearance and that she knew who Zach was through his girlfriend. She's not design that but she wasn't sleeping with them and Natalie was a drug user her. She's a big method was brought back to Tennessee from Florida by her family in hopes that they could intervene and help you get her some help but she right away hooked up with Zach and his meth cooking meth taking gene crew but she says again that story did not happen so you decide anyway. She did not testify. She's not living in Tennessee anymore and the law in Tennessee is you can't be subpoenaed and forced to testify okay if you don't live in the state which is weird and super convenient but we did not hear from her in in court now. What about that gun right okay so if only there was a flow chart? Let me throw another name out at Shia Victor Dinsmore. He's a convicted rapist and drug addict and he said Shane Austin traded him a gun for morphine pills which victor then gave to his wife to keep her her safe presumably from people like him and his friends but then later he told her that she should probably get rid of it because he was afraid it had a body on it so they buried it by the river before they moved to Indianapolis Bliss and it was victor after being promised immunity from state and federal charges that ultimately led police to that gun yeah unfortunately it had been through so much in the years between hollies murder and then finding it that there was no d._n._A.. Evidence on it and there was no way to match ballistics to the bullet hole found in her skull now personally after seeing Victor Dinsmore is picture. I think the police in Delphi Indiana need to hear him say up the hill yeah feel free to refer to my podcast on the Delphi murders for background on that one but despite the lack of any hard evidence linking sack atoms Dylan Dylan Adams Jason Autry and Shane Austin to the crime on September twenty second the jury still found guilty of all charges and just minutes before the penalty phase of his trial was set to begin he made need a deal with prosecutors to spend the rest of his life in prison and avoid the death penalty and then he had to face holly's mother Karen Bobo Jerusalem when I speak to you I know that my daughter fought and fought hard for her life. Can you just so I can take you can look at me and I know that she begged for her life because my daughter loves and enjoyed life but Lou goes to take that for her shown absolutely looking place you have shown absolutely no remorse for any saying that you whoa Oh my God this poor mother and it's worth noting that sack is planning to file an appeal and it might be filed before the end of this summer in January twenty eighteen Dylan Adams took an Alford plea in which means that he maintained his his innocence gives me but acknowledges that he'll probably be found guilty at trial. He is right now serving thirty five years in prison you guys this case is so bewildering there was so much information to sort through there are so many convoluted facts and things that aren't available information that we have I it's was so hard to unravel and these guys are scumbags. Obviously I mean Jason. Autry is like a Hillbilly Ted Bundy with how weirdly cold matter of fact he sounded on the stand and how willing he was to murder people and help hide bodies like all anybody had to do was ask obviously they probably could have done it but did they may be may be sacked did know and want to sleep with holly but would he show up at her house at Seven A._M.. And Kidnapping raper even if as his girlfriend Rebecca said later he wasn't asleep until ten A._M.. That day like he claimed to the police but which which we already know because the idiot posting on facebook how is he raping holly imposing on facebook and some accounts say his cell phone was pinging several miles away and not coming into the same sector as hers until nine ten that morning not at eight twenty eight A._M.. When the attacker likely stopped his vehicle to rape and kill her as we can see from her Cell Phone Ping's as we heard in that earlier twenty twenty clip now everyone in it feels like they should probably be in jail for something but with only circumstantial evidence to back them up and most of that from Jason Autry himself a total criminal I mean we can only hope that her real killers are actually in prison? Hopefully there finally is peace in the valley for Holly now but good God is their piece for any of us. Do you have questions. I know you must have questions. Leave me a message at six one five four seven five eight eight seven to six and you might get your question played and answered on the next episode again. That number is six one five four seven five eight seven two six. Give me a call now. Do you like true crime stories with a little bit of southern drawl to them then you need to check out our friends at murder down south podcast. 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Work from Home - Daily Reset 4 Success - August 24 2020
"Welcome to the natural curiosity podcast. We are live on Youtube and in our facebook group with two shows, wisdom chats for the curious and. Reset for success. Be sure to visit our videos. So you can see what we look like and be sure to say I. Today's episode is the daily reset four success now, enjoy the show. And welcome this is Monday morning or Monday new and it's our work from home show. We are so excited again today we love this show I'm lady. Baby boomer, Bay there's are Mary and LaSalle Hi Marian Hello. and. Our special special guest is Claudia Autry say hello. Everyone. Special Claudia. Cloudy. I have a lot in common. Teaches the hypnosis are hypnotherapy classes that I took many years ago. So we had so much to talk about just before we got all the show, but we're excited to hear from her. So marrying since you know cloudy better than I do how about if you introduce her Will. All right. I'd be happy to not that you haven't already induced introduced her because she is special special. She really is. What. Is a very special person because of several different things. One of them is she's really nice. Can you tell her? She's beautiful. Panic she's beautiful. She's kind. She's gentle and she teaches hypnosis. She has a school. She has the ability to work with you online she is. She's just all set up to help you. Work from home. She's GonNa be under Hollis this give it to her now let her tell us a little bit about more who are you and how do you work. What had tell first of all, how you got into hypnosis and what you're doing. Now, let's let's go from the very beginning. How'd you how'd you figure it out and then where you are now? So the back story okay. Well, my my actually my background is engineering, which is totally different from this I I love sciences and my desire as as an engineer what I wanted to do was create beautiful space. For people to live and work and and experience, and so I wanted to create beauty. and. Then I thought well, that's an architect and I thought, Oh, I'm not so creative. So I'll just become an engineer and all that Kinda stuff and notice my first limiting belief. As a young child that I was not creative enough and then I moved on and and started going along this healing journey and just knowing being very sensitive to my environment and being very sensitive to people's Energy and understanding that I could affect them So I started down the slope of energy work which which local like rake the. Though I know a lot of. We're having a little challenge. Is Marion. Heine. Piney Kale. Should there are you are you were frozen for a minute there? Can you hear I was afraid of that? Looked like that. Yes I can hear you now. So I started down the road. Great. So I started down the road of energy work and Rakia and that kind of stuff, and then you know went through my journey and several different healing crisis, and then finally I ended up. My good friend of mine is doyle ward who's in the virtual community here in Houston and I was he had an open house. So he was the the instructor for pass foundation the. hypnosis institute and went to support him at an open health and I had been looking for the understanding of how do I how can I be an engineer and be a healer or am I, supposed to be a healer? What is that I'm supposed to do here and there was a meditation in his open health and in that meditation I heard this, you should do this. Out what you know you never get something. So clear in English even of vines never seemed to be that way but I I asked again they're like, yeah do this. So I immediately got into the process of signing up for class and it was one of the best things that I did because it really. Crystallized how I could could really help other people be more empowered within themselves. It gave me like a structure for business. It gave me something that was viable. It helped me personally and so I kept after that I really started doing more hypnosis work and then then I got the opportunity to assist oil in helping with the teaching at path, and then at some point in time he said you know let's just switch places. You take the lead role in all the word, the background, and so that's how I ended up becoming the of of the past nation L.. You know this reminds me of something that Lady Liu tells me all the time that you are balanced. Now, you have a left brain right brain and a lot of people either one or the other or they have the Kinda off-balance but it sounds to me like you're very balanced as far as the left and right brain creative versus. You know at the logical yeah. Thank you. Yeah I, feel like that one of the things that on a greater scale that's one of the things that we're trying to do we have the opportunity to create here on the planet is having that best melt, fallon masculine and feminine and that you know like there's not a lot that's more masculine than an engineer I mean that's all logical that concrete that tangible I was as an engineer I built higher education of all things and also hospital. So it kind of is interesting. How even in that aspect I was? Related to teaching and related to healing But you know at one point, there's nothing on the ground, and then later there's a big building that the hospital now. So that's very tangible but the objective, the feminine is subjective in its creative in its organic and and being able to to relax into that receptive mode instead of just going with the flow without. Having to have something that is tangible because it is subjective. Organic, they're just having both of those. It's been a wonderful journey for me to really embrace both parts and I really promote having everyone that coming contacted or is interested in me to also embrace that masculine feminine within themselves. People are really really paying attention to this. Now, this is the work from home show, and basically what we're doing is helping you find a job because a lot of people men laid off or a lot of people have been Scared that they're going to be laid off. They've been getting notices like you know we might have to close that type of thing, and there's a lot of fear. So I think hypnosis can really help people to calm down and you keep saying that I've heard that in your in your message that you know you can calm down and relax I heard you say relaxed and it made me feel relaxed. Let's face it. There's a lot of stuff going on a lot of people are are UH scrambling around for work? And -solutely anything that we can do. Now I know I'm GonNa, give you some ideas for work and and maybe we'll talk about things that you can create both lady Liu and Claudia have been involved in watching looking in networking with people who have created all kinds of things. So we can come up with ideas for you but if you're not relaxed about it if you're not, you're not feeling good then it's GonNa show in the interview or it's GonNa show in how you present yourself. So I really am grateful to have you here today off. I think so. Claudia, how have you I? Know you've got an office he necessarily you normally trained people and work with people your clients. So how has the transition been for you to go to working in your home? So it has been a very interesting ride. I as an engineer I'm okay. I'm good with technology you know and so technology always accepted the fact technology and I are going to work together of but then as the healer we know that sometimes it doesn't always work. So directly and we have to be more we have to be more understanding that there's a timing that goes with it and so so that's been fun to kind of a negotiate those two things that drive to get things done and the relaxing and allowing for things to happen in their own time. So once we got into this, it was definitely A. A. A understanding of what is it that technology can do for us. You know what is There's a lot of fear especially at the beginning of March when people did not know about you know what is the virus? What is going on? What? What what am I going to do at home? You Know How am I gonNA have a job. How is this going to happen again? Can I get my groceries? You know what is they all of that? So we really were amped up. And then but it also gives us an opportunity to come home and really us well, what resources do I have. And I as a? I had had do my views zoom in the past that used guys all of that I've never really taken it to the next level and and I always had it in the back of my mind like this is something I'm going to really explore and see what we can do with that, and it was a back burner project, which now suddenly came support friends. and. So I started looking at the affirming that I'm good with technology we work together and I'm going to learn the technology and you know. So I started switching my client sessions to zoom. I started switching the school to zoom and you know what really you know one of the things about hypnosis is that when you're working with someone on their journey if about really connecting with them and it feel though another limiting belief. that. That I had in the past is that Oh, well, I have to do that in person you know in order for me to connect with you we have to touch. We have to be I have to see me you like face to face and you know that I really started noticing that that's not you know seen someone although it's not quite the same on video as in person it's still is good enough clothing. Employers. Have come to that conclusion as well. They didn't think that you know their workers would do job and all that stuff that they were online and they once they were forced into it they're realizing gee, I could save money everybody could work from home and you know there's a lot of pluses here. Right you can tell I mean from that perspective as a business owner I mean, do you really need that office space or that much that much there you go. Hey, you know we got somebody in the audience wave waving high in. Lieu. Hello. Oh. That's so nice to have some people on your lovat. A wonderful woman she does a lot with promoting healthy eating. So it says, she's just fantastic. On one of our shows it's not let all I think. So I. Yeah. I. Put her on the list. Oh Well I'll be in touch Cynthia. I think I think you're absolutely right not only bringing down the overhead tossed and reevaluating that but also understanding that we can still connect via video and when you work in attain. So that's another thing that I've really worked with some of my clients and other people that I've worked with or that I that I know as different types of businesses they you know having a regular meeting on zoom where you see each other is important for us to continue having that connection and then also knowing like Hey ed the amount of texting had gone back and forth the amount of all of that is that is it's important to find different ways of being connected. Question for you. So let's say someone might be interested in being a hypnonist hypnotist right and they would sign up to go through your school and you could do that online through zoom or what however you handle your classes, and then they could work from Home Ryan have. Hey Inc lutely. So that's that's the other thing So many other is so I've been talking to the other hypnotists that I know and other healers and other co life coaches, and they have easily transitioned into zoom because zoom or other whatever video platform that they have, and so one of the things that I really like about teaching the classes using video platform is that my students are now seeing that you can do this. You know on video. And that is the direction that we're going and also completely expounds the market. At bill talking if someone wanted to come to the, you know to get training through path foundation you would come you would have to fly into Houston and there have been people who've flown in and taking classes. But now you know we'd be able to offer them via zoom and they could be at home One of the things that really helped kind of kick me into really taking advantage of the teaching opportunity for the and was was the recent hurricane that was going to hit us and I know there's new ones that are headed our direction but but really you know that commute between persons house and some of the students and the And the school you know, let's say the school is not an flood area but the trant the area between their how. They could get stuck on the road. And and the concept of traffic and commute time, and all of that just gets pulled out only now it's just we get together We teach all day and and we're going back and forth we'll have our break for lunch. They get to have lunch with their loved ones and their kids and stuff. There's just so many cool. Advani were learning. We're learning. We have a question from the audience in this one comes from Peggy more. She says, how does hypnosis help a person figure out their path in life? Oh. What a great question I know. Thanks Peggy. So hypnosis hypnosis as a tool. So it's not a magic it's not magic. It's not a magic. Now. But it isn't it's a tool. It's a tool like a hammer and what it does is it is a way of having a conversation with your subconscious mind. Now, your subconscious mind has several things. So the the the main things that we understand that it has all our long term memory. So Hello hypnosis helps you with memory and focus. it also is running your body. We don't know what they justice juice needs to happen. We don't say, Hey, saliva on I'm getting ready to eat you know if the body the subconscious turn that on for us you know we don't tell our body how to do repair, how to run the immune system. So all the body processes to to really good it's great for body healing. And then it has all of our bad habits and good habit you know so both. And then it has creativity in our intuition. And Mattis where that life path happens where we really get in touch with not using when we've addressed these other aspects of your life. When you have that mindfulness, the person who is who is looking for their life path the way hypnosis health is by helping you relax those other parts that are freaking out. You know the parts that are saying, Hey, I have to. I don't know. I have to be incorporated. I have to have this type of job have to do this. I have to do all that I had to get certified otherwise, they won't like to hire me. Yeah. Right. Exactly. I need this degree I need this piece of paper that said which I'm not saying pieces of paper that have certifications and diplomas, and all of that are not important they are important but. The stress of that is not helpful. And so when we relax stat and kind of pull back and say, okay, I'm going to do might this is the direction I'm going I'm going to go into this. What do I really like? You know what? What is it? That makes me happy. What here's my emotional craziness here all the judgments that I have let's understand that that's what that is and then let's really he'll in to what makes me happy. Though I had another limiting belief that I wasn't a teacher. Valid off. I decided at seven years old that I was not creative and I was not a teacher. And that's totally wrong. So I get to really spend the rest of my life embracing my creativity and embraced seen that I really like teaching people. I really love you know giving them for me Shen. And Sharing Meta information. So. Oh Yeah. Her for Internet is just Working overtime. Lady. Luma me ask you a question about hypnosis. So you became a hypnotist am quite a while ago and I was just wondering if you felt the same way that Claudia did that it just helps you relax and it helps you figure out what it is that you WanNa, do by calming those parts that are too aggressive and too hokey. Now. Yes, and no I took the classes back in the late ninety, ninety eight somewhere around in there got certified. It's a year long class at least it was back then and I did it to heal myself after my husband's death and to get rid of the grief I didn't know how to help myself and a lot of ways, and it taught me all of that and I am now able to say it did all of the things you've just said because I learned how to control. This and that's the whole secret and hypnosis does that because most all hypnosis is self hypnosis, nobody can hypnotize you anybody else without their permission and their willingness to participate and if you decide while you're in hypnosis that you don't want to be there anymore you just say, okay, I'm up I'm awake you can't you know don't don't talk talk to me anymore it. It's you're in control of your own mind always, and the hypnosis just puts the information like an affirmation deep into your subconscious mind. Which is where will work to help you. There's call you back now. So that's that's what I love about it and always will and I don't know Claudia. Correct me if I'm wrong. But when I was in class back way back when in the nineties it we were called hypnotherapist and I know you've been referring to it as Hypno- hypnotist which which use it. Yes. So So, there's always A. A division between those that performed. Psychotherapy and those that are hypnotists and There was a some legislation that got passed since the nineties I don't remember the date off the top of my head and one of the things that came out of that legislation was that a certain amount of sort of you know certification hours are needed in order to do hypnosis and only those people who have a licensed a psychotherapy license or SOC masters of social worker licensed. They can call themselves hypnotherapist and Texas. Love they were trying to force that everyone all. Oh. Everybody else's a hypnotist or quality is Internet is just coming in and go. Ahead and talk about some of the jobs that I found out over the weekend. And I suggest highly that you go to some of the places that are online and and of course, they're all gonna be in the description down below I. Know that that if you're listening to our podcast, you can go over to youtube when you get home or when finish walking the dog or wherever you're going and look at youtube just look it up marrying Lasalle and you'll see you know natural curiosity and there will be all the links into in every single week. We've been doing this how long lady the twenty. Twenty three weeks. And one of the links that I really think that you should pay attention to is indeed dot com because they have so many remote jobs available and it tells you everything about it tells you what they require and how much they pay. So that's where I found a couple of the ones I wanNA talk about today. The first one is. Urgently Hiring Foley Remote Yep companies called onsite pros, they're out of Tennessee and their companies looking for experienced individuals to assist in managing their day to day bookkeeping clerical rick and I don't know what all that means All you have to have is some experience with quickbooks and background in payroll or accounting clerical duty. She know like data entry in that type of thing, and they pay it right now it's part time they'll pay up to ten dollars an hour, and you have a very flexible schedule. You Work Monday through Friday and there's a full time position available. So be sure and check that out if if you have some interest in. Clerical and quickbooks type of stuff. Sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. It really does I but here's another one that I that you won't find on indeed that I found that is just amazing. Okay I'm GONNA spell it. Sounds weird swiftly S. W, I am which means swim. He L. Y. Swiftly. So swiftly, DOT com. So did you know if you own a pool that you can run a out and you can make enough money to pay your mortgage? A. I'll how son now this company takes care of all the licensing and all requirements that you you know if somebody gets hurt and your pool or whatever is playback she is Hey Claudia and you hear. Now, she still can't hear us all the poor thing Internet's just not able to handle it. But anyway I'm going to put that up. Okay. So Far Rent Swimming Pool. It's kind of like you know you can come for the day or you can you know rent by the hour literally you can rent your pool is just it's the it's the basic knowledge they're basing it on the people that are renting their their extra rooms out you know these people just got creative said, let's create a very safe way for people to open up their pools to families. And individuals who WANNA go swimming. Isn't that cool. Ooh, what do you call it? What do you call that where you rent houses for the weekend? Are you back. Not. Chance. We will have her back. Don't worry. We'll get her back. Anyway that written the pool sounds like he ninety access the public pools are all closed. Oh Ra us your. Oh, no wonder they're doing. So well, I start on the news, believe it or not it was on the national news So it's it's it's a very legitimate company swim plea. Swim Dot Com retype it answer just in case. You are L., Y. I thought how creative can you get? To have a company that is going to do everything for you. Okay. So here it is swim ply-. Dot. com. They do everything for you. They have all the insurance and they have all the stuff ob just and they've got ideas for you and you just put your that you're available in the times and the days, and then you just close off your blinds and your family can live in, and then you can pay your mortgage and maybe some of the things to. Wow interesting. That's thinking outside the box for sure. There you go. So thank what you've got around. You're like I've got all these trees. I could rent picnic spots. Sure. And So a pine comes to. Well we just chopped down one of our best pine trees yesterday. I don't know if you're a farmer, the sound of a big tree hitting the ground after it's been penn is the this the worst sound in the world to a farmer. I have one more an I did find this one on indeed it's it's a virtual inbound call representative and it's for patients. It's a patient connection center. So people are going to be calling you and they said be prepared to answer like one hundred calls a day. YOU'RE GONNA deliver, extra, special customer service and support but they'll train you everything and that I found it on indeed and I will have the league in the description down below it's. It's it's made by a company. It's offered by a company called Millennium Physician Group, and it's all remote everything is remote, and if you can get your foot in the door with a company like this, you could have a fulltime job with benefits and everything, but you gotTa. Start. Somewhere. Right. Now. I know we're running out of talent time and I just WANNA get try to get See if Claudia can at least say goodbye. Ways. I don't know what's going on the Internet connection today. We'll. Bring, you back and. We. Can, definitely talk about that in the future and and I love I'm so glad we got to connect a little bit today and and like I said, it's it's a learning curve with managing our technology, having the tensions with it and just you know working with it, it's been it's been such an interesting journey to go from. Meeting in person to needing to use our technology to to. Did. Are Social being yes. Well, that is wonderful. So Marian, have you got anything else before we close out? You know I do, but we've run out of time darn it. So be sure and check back with us again next week for the work from home show we do have some opportunities I love the one I brought you today. You hear it Claudia Doll no cutting in and out. It's well plea dot com you can rent your pool out by the hour or the day. And you pay your mortgage they they have it all set up on SWIM FLEA DOT COM. So anyway, we have twenty two weeks of links of places where you can not only find a job create your own job like I'm places like five or dot com, and if you are nervous or you're not sure what to do, you need to call Claudia Autry it two, eight, one, eight, four, nine, four, six, one, zero, schedule a hypnosis session or think about becoming a hypnotist yourself and going through her school patio. Thank you so much for joining us today leading Lou you're awesome. You are thank you so much. To meet you get to meet all of you have you back on on a different show. All right sounds good talk to you later. Bye. Thank you for joining us for today's show. Remember, it's our pleasure to bring you interesting co hosts and topics. So connect with US often we're looking forward to the next time we're together by for now.
DV E8: Tushar Atre
"Hey chip mony here. If you haven't heard about anchor, it's easiest way to make podcast. Let me explain it's free. There's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast. Right from your phone or computer. An anchor will distribute your podcast for you, so he can be heard on spotify apple podcasts at many more. You can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place, download the free anchor up or go to anchor FM to get started. A and welcome to drowning verdict I'm chip. Mahoney your host and this is my true crime podcast. Where take a look at stories out there that interest me and I? WanNa share with you. Talk about the connections, the stories and see if there's a different angle to look at from a story perspective I'm an author. Joining verdict is one of my novels of forthcoming novel. Where have true? Crime elements. And so I want to get into the story. Find out more about it. I don't necessarily go step by step or talk about the gory details. Those are for other podcasts. That's not me I. Look at story and I often think about. The body that. You know something unfortunate happened. If you watch CSI movies. You'll see this from time to time. Where, the detectives get together over the body. They have a cup of coffee. They're talking about it. So when there is a body, there's a story and they work backwards from there. figure out what happened. La Times. It's just tragic, but sometimes there's twists and turns. It makes for a good read. And those are interesting. Something to think about. In this case in this episode and I'm talking about to Shar Autrey. WHO! In recent news. Losses Life because of. Some things that happened in his business that. Went. To his personal life. And I'm connecting that. Connecting just from the story perspective, and how to think about it to another case that. had similar. It just made me think more about this stuff. I've covered in other podcasts. the murder for financial gain people looking for money. Some of my podcast those are big stories like Orange County California. Lot of financial gain cases out there. And, in this case, this is northern, California. The Santa Cruz area. This is somebody who is. Or was a tech executive had his own business. And by all purposes in stories looked like he was very successful in the tech industry. Probably was dealing with other CEO's big companies. You know. Trips. Meetings and so forth. and. What ended up. I guess taking in a different direction from my opinion is that he got involved in starting another company something in the cannabis industry. Because, there's a whole lot of. To be made in that green. And I think that was a new business from what I understand. and. I think from the entrepreneurial side that a lot of people are interested in that they have success in other businesses, or maybe they're starting out. They see the we'd industry. As something that. They can make a lot a lot of green. And maybe they can. Maybe that's something that they're interested in. But in this case. He was in that business I think for a few years just recently as opposed to tech business for over twenty years. and. At least two employees that he had for his business in the cannabis business were responsible. For his death. Murder Financial game now. The COPS said the other day that in a press conference that there was four young men involved. They're keeping a lot of details close to the vest close to the badge. But. Ultimately is. A break entering into us is nice home. Waking him about of asleep. DEMANDING MONEY HOW MUCH MONEY! or how much they got at that time. Who knows if there is a safe in the house? Who knows cops haven't talked about that taking them to another location within eight hours or so. He's no longer life. And so. I look at that and I from my author. Mind again in this podcast. I'm looking at stories and connections. I'm not here to talk about the details, not the gory details that's just not meet us for some other podcast, but in this I look at the. The other connections things pop into my mind. There's another case in Utah recently. just WANNA say month or two ago, the autry case was laid at a late last year. Like October and this is in twenty twenty, but a Utah couple was really taken out the same way. Woken out of bed in the morning of their nice home. Intruder demanding money. In this case, the guy only got twenty bucks left, and because he left his car keys. Like a dimwit left his car keys. Backhaus he went back there and was confronted by the homeowner in. The couple of lesser life that way, and and such an unfortunate, but again this person. He wasn't an employee, but he had applied for a job. With. The business owners company, so he knew something about them. That wasn't by accident that he was there. He was looking for money, and he believed that they had some to give, and he had a mouse gone didn't think he would get caught. And business owner did recognize him and. That's how it turned out. So that's the connection connection is. Be careful who you hire It's. Of course from a store perspective a motive perspective. It's financial gain, which is quite frequent. In? True Crime. Whether it be. A. Insurance, policy! On the person and was policy is written in those premiums are being paid. There's a clock ticking over that person's head. And that could be for hundreds of thousands of dollars can be for millions of dollars. In this case, he was cash money. There's no assurance GONNA pay it out. WE'RE NOT GONNA WE'RE NOT GONNA have to wait for that check. This is cash money. You've got cash. You're living well. You're looking good. Maybe you're flashy maybe or not. But somehow slipped out to the wrong kind of people. And these guys in both cases are young. They are in their twenty s may be as high as twenty five years old. But I. Don't think they're older than that. And then the business owners, autry, and this other man who are. Probably over forty. Maybe fifty years old and have worked for their businesses and have developed them. Have probably had a lot of failures as well and then success. And that doesn't happen overnight and in today's culture want success overnight, don't you? Everybody does. Well. Khanna seems like A. An illusion. Sometimes delusion. Eat Sad. People needs at the wrong people, and the case about I. Think in my opinion, and it's only opinion because I don't know everything. I'm a podcast host, I'm an author. But in my opinion, it's because he was dipping his toes in the wrong kind of business. And I think sometimes as an entrepreneur that we think we can be graded everything. Maybe that will be. Found out later bud. He was good being attacked. Executive have like a Web design business working with large large corporations. Fantastic, those people pay their their bills. They pay their invoices. You can live off that if you can make it happen. But in looking at. Opportunities a lot of money to be made in cannabis and people are making millions and millions of dollars, but maybe they've been doing that for years and years and years and years, and they know it. They know how to. Weave in and out of that industry, and maybe he was dipping his toes in the wrong. Wrong business, but it did. Open it up to have an employee's and two of which were as a police just said in their. Press conference that they're involve. At least two of them. And in the case of the man is the business owner of a landscaping company and who had interviewed. The man. who was applying for a job and maybe down? Maybe the job wasn't available at that time. Were there in waiting, but the person new? About the business owner he knew where they lived. New they probably lived well. And maybe he heard that the money because. Think about. Landscaping business your pain weekly. You're not going to the bank to cash. You're giving your paying cash your pain, your place cash. Guys were for you. and. Sometimes that leads to unsavory thoughts people that believe that they can get away with something and then when they become desperate. Those things kind of. Come to the surface desperation. Addiction are two things that I see. In a lot of cases that. Make people do. Dumb things. And they get back. So. That's a connection I making here. And looking at it from story perspective. What kind of story could you write about Mr Trie? Who knows if he was well loved or disliked? I've seen some articles about that. I don't know. What can you write about it well? You could write something about it. You can write fiction about include the financial gain, but you'll find that as a motive anywhere. It's just so so common. But A little nugget is just in my thought process from author mind it's. Dipping your toes and something that you don't have too much experience with. because. You think you're great at everything, and you're think you're going to be a winner. Assert business not just lead you into an area that you shouldn't be stick with. The! pull the trim the area that you know. So. It's sad. Again I don't have any details other than that because I don't go there, there's lots to read on and so forth. But I look at it and say how sad. How Sad! And maybe there's GonNa. Be some more stuff coming out from the autry I'm sure there are because the cops are keeping a lot of things close to the vest. Releasing details video. They've come out and said it's about financial gain. Both of these guys, both of these incidents Santa Cruz Utah. Woken up invaded in their home, woken up out asleep both of them. To three in the morning, demanding money. And Utah Guy gets. Away with twenty bucks leaves. His car keys goes back to the house. Business owners there. He's ready to go toe to toe with them, and he recognizes the. Guy Took his master mask off left. His keys took his mask off. I don't know. Something to think about. And I'M GONNA be signed off on this podcast here. I appreciate you coming back for more sub in a my youtube. Check on my anchor spotify. And always tried to come back with stories that. Whether it's a new connection or some sort of angle, you can think of from a story point of view. and. Go from there. Some of this makes for good fiction. Otherwise, it's just sat so me. Sign off here. And I. Appreciate You. Check out Johnny Verdict. I'll see you next time bye.
How to end a tapping session (Pod #479)
"This is gene autry stealing welcome tapping podcast recorded live to tape from Williamsburg in Brooklyn. This is for seventy nine recall aired September sixteen. Twenty. Twenty. Ever you every whatever time of day you're a chance to listen to a thanks for spending some time with me. Every single week, we answer the most common and uncommon questions but tapping and eft. C. Could move from the basic recipe to mastering the art of delivery. You'll learn how to find root causes faster clear issues quicker and have longer lasting results. Today I wanted to share with you something that came up in the mastering the art of delivery classes that have been teaching over the last four weeks. And this is for those moments in which you're tapping on an issue and you have it mostly cleared but they're still something that's hanging around, and the time this comes up is when we're tapping on an issue and if you're using a sud scale, the subjective units of distress scale and your rating something from zero to ten, often times when we get an issue down to eight two or less. It can be really difficult to tap on because there are no words left and oftentimes and something is that small we don't recognize that it is there a when I'm working with clients after we've done around tapping the question I, always ask my clients is what did you notice? I didn't say what is the relief? What is the pain? Just what did you notice because I want to have the initial feedback not to be framed by question that I'm asking but just to get where they are. And almost inevitably what a client is going to point out is the relief they've received Oh it's easier for me to breathe it doesn't feel as big I see possibilities, which is great because we're always almost always unless the pain a super extreme almost always going to notice the relief I and so I typically say that's awesome. That's typically what we do. We recognize the relief right away. Now what's the part that's left because we want to do is we want to make sure we're not just getting some temporary relief, but we're really getting down to the root of in cleaning out as much as possible. And my clients will think. Oh. It's still this. Oh, it's still bad. But when it gets really small when it's down to that level of two or less, it can be hard to give vocabulary Oh. I can see it on their face like they something still there, but they don't know quite how to describe it. And when something is really small, it's hard to give a details often times I described the process of relief and release as kind of like wearing really tight shoes and when you take them off initial, you can feel them even though the she was gone but five minutes later, it just kind of like there's the memory of tight choose, but it's not really there. But in this case, if there's something that is still hanging around, WE WANNA make sure we get it. So this is the tool. This is the technique that I use when we get to something that has a tour less or just feels like a shadow and this is the exact instructions I give to my client. So you can hear how I would be teaching it I. Say I'm going to have you do three things at the exact same time. And I'm GonNa tell you what those three things are now, and then we're going to do that is that okay so I want you to do is start tapping on your collarbone and I want you to keep tapping on your collarbone until I tell you to stop tapping on their collarbone and so they start doing they'll start tapping on their collarbone they. Oh, great. Second the entire time we do this procedure, I want you to tune in as much as you can. To the part that is still hanging around we'll shadow of a bit that's there and I see them not at me. Am I great now what I want you to do I on your hold your head perfectly still with your eyes open and I want you roll your eyes from Florida ceiling kind of like you're watching a helium balloon rise to the ceiling but I want you to keep your head perfectly still in your eyes open do that for me three times. In so foreign video I'll watch them do that. If we're talking on the phone the, let me know they're done. Great. Now keep tapping on your collarbone keep tuning into the part that has left again keeping your head perfectly still is open once you to roll your eyes clockwise three times and counter clockwise three times. And it doesn't matter which one you do i. Because I don't want them thinking about is that my clockwise there clockwise because it doesn't matter. So again, they're tapping on her collarbone, they're tuning in I watched them do it, and then a third time I keep tapping on her collarbone and keep tuning into what is going on and I like to keep reminding 'em band apart because I'm having them do all of these wacky things and it's easy for them to lose track of that particular bit might great keep. Tapping on your collarbone keep tuning. Now at what do is I want you to keep your head perfectly still in this time I want to do I want you to imagine you're watching a tennis match but as you watch the golf ball, go back forth across the court I don't want you to move your head. So does this is back and forth three or four times. I. See them do this. I say great. Take a nice big deep breath. Give me a stretch. What do you notice now? And in almost every case after doing that quick little protocol whatever is left has evaporated of there's not even a hint of something at their now sometimes when that happens when we clear that last little hint, all of the sudden they've clarity and they see the next problem or the next issue that might be related or might not that we need to tap on but for the issue that we were working on, it just evaporates and goes away. And to be honest I am not exactly sure. How I to be doing this and how I started adding that I like I might have heard it from someone along the way I've been doing this for well over a decade and I'm a big fan of giving credit when credit is due. So if you've heard else teaching this, please let me now I'd like to hear maybe where the root cause of this is but I have found it to be a super super super effective way of dealing with that last little bit and just kinda ceiling the work. and. So when you're tapping on something and you have at really low, this is a great thing to do or this can be a perfect little thing that you use to just kinda seal up a tapping session that you're doing before you go about your day and again. The instructions I gave you took forty five seconds without instructions. You could do it in fifteen or twenty. It's not a difficult little procedure. So it's worth just tacking on this little thing to make it easier for you to make sure that you're really clearing things the way out to make your tapping round even more successful. So giving give that a try and please let me know what that experiences like for you. Giving that a tribe like even though we've had relief, we do this thing I can actually see even a little bigger smile and more really my clients and I'd love to know if you have that experience as well. If you know someone in your life of tapper who might find this particular little technique useful. Please pass it along. Don't spam your inbox Senate everybody in the world. But if there's one or two people who you know who could have this too they're tapping routine please be. The easiest way for people to find a new piece of content from the recommendation of a friend and so it would be the highest compliment you could pay me and my work if you haven't done. So victory up for I ten part guide for eliminating self sabotage is Tapping aid dot com click on the big blue button, and you can take care of that. 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Man Cave Happy Hour Whiskey In The Winter With Metro Times At DSC Episode 48
"You're listening to the PODCAST DETROIT network visit. WWW DOT PODCAST DETROIT DOT com for more information. I'm making sound am I. Yeah I'll make it sound. It's like right on par said Hey. Welcome to the man Cave Hey welcome to Medicaid GonNa Autry confined whiskey and smoke really finds. John is time for happy. Hour is the man cave happy hour. Whiskey cigars spirits. It's the stories that go along with it. I'm Jamie Flanagan. I M Matt Fox and we are at the Detroit Shipping Company will favorite places to be. I would say you would say we're at the Detroit Shipping Company. I almost like again and Yeah who knows when podcast get released or when you listen but within the last twenty four hour period We've spent a number of hours. ARS This location. We have a lot of cocktails. That are hand. Yes Sir Microphones yes. So that's gassing yeah you know the cocktails just just before we went on. You're like yeah my my voice fried but I gotta tell you you sound fantastic. Thank you meant. Yeah so you're going to. What your whistle a little bit further tonight? That is it because we are at. What is this whiskey in the winter? This is the Metro Times which is by the metric tonnes local Local newspaper magazine here in the Detroit area has benet prominent fixture in this area for a very long time. That is it and whiskey in the winter here with Metro Times after the shipping company. My Gosh Yeah there's The police is jammed. I mean I I would I would venture to say the Shipping Company is at or near capacity. Yes honestly the VIP folks pack at this too Capacity right from the get-go and people are lined up outside Waiting for their specialty glasses which we do have a couple For the taste tonight so people that get here. They actually get a number of tasting samples ticket to and then also get to experiment with the local fair some of the food restaurants that are here to because the food here is just amazing. A lot of great things happening right here. So yeah in the winter brought to you better times so there's It's not just whiskey though. There's Sir there's some wine there's some we're sitting right across from the Tito's vodka We are here tonight to their cigars in all the food vendors are open repeatedly repeatedly tried all the food vendors and Jenga and apparently Jenga is alive and well more. Somebody voted off the island island but Yeah so listen the winter and we wanted to start out with some whiskey and we wanted to try something that we've had before but we're doing just a taste of glyphosate cliff. We went back to our friends from cliff. Yes if if you didn't catch episode go back because we were able to talk to The owners and the small as this small. Yeah I have no idea what that means is so so obvious so the the creators of lift and it's a molecular Whiskey it's there's actually luckily spirit was yes yes is what they are required to call it on their label. Yeah and what they did was they broke down there crazy mad scientists right and they broke down flavors of whiskies took several many different whiskies and broken down to the molecular level of what created what taste within the a different whiskies absolutely and they isolated those little genomes. As other genomes Adams the molecules different little molecules and I was told there would be no mad. I was told there'd be no science. GINA HOPES UH-HUH I teach high school. I do your journalism guy do this. I can just make crap. It's like is that denominator divided by the subtraction of the kids. Liga me and I'm like they like Oh really and I'm like that's not a word I'll l.. Say something ridiculous and I'll make up some documents word and I'll go not a word and they're like what the same place you can. Just he'll be in the dictionary next year the crap they made it up all right but like I said so they break it down. Look whiskey they break it down to the molecules of the taste and they created created. They weren't trying to replicate anything although this is if you if you total star Trek yes it out of the replicator creating something. They haven't tried replicating anything anything yet that they've tried to sell right so they broke it down and they created what they felt was a really good whiskey based on their own flavor to their own tic- and their Hallett Ray rice so they didn't. They didn't copy anybody else. They made their own style. Spirits Spirit whiskey themselves with natural flavor. Yes because that's the molecules Aliquo that they went after whether it be apricots or if they're trying to go for a nutty oak flavor you know they'll actually pull those molecules from Barkin and all that fun stuff as well so they eight can create their own whiskey so to go back to the Star Trek thing though yet the replicator say that a steeler says you know what. We're no longer going to do this. However we want to be able to salvage the the tasty notes can you go back and pull out all these notes? All the smaller kills incur. Recreate what we did. Yeah and they're they're recreating it. So that's where that that star Trek feeling comes up and what we noted about cliff when when we tried it it was a little lighter right. their brand had from some fruit notes in it has some fruit notes little African and yet it ended nicely and it it didn't it didn't didn't knock your socks up not that it wasn't good. Knock your socks off. But it wasn't like it wasn't. UCA Yeah Right. Didn't hit the back of your throat for thirty minutes apple rise. Double Death triple-barrel thousand-year-old so it. It was just bad adjectives. You blow your way. Knock your socks up Because it was good. If it didn't it didn't I have a a a linger along a softer we. We said it was softer but tonight we wanted to try. We wanted to try poor cocktails. We're doing we wanted this. We wanted to start out lighter. Yes Oh hey clip and this is a good choice. Yes I had some Just not last week with the week before I was hanging out and it was a school night and I'm like I'm a poor there you go I'm Gonna I'm GonNa but I'm a little lighter later. It's a school night. I try to pay myself with a little lighter. Poor let me ask you three of them. I didn't I did so. Let me ask you this question for folks out there two years ago okay. Not Today but two years ago a few. If you knew what you knew now right would you have started with something heavier two years ago knowing what you don't know then to now you tonight or just in general. Because you're like it's a school night I wanNA poor. Oh what you probably wouldn't have gone something light or being a school night. I've been learning a little bit right. And that's the whole point of the man cave. Happy hour is that we want to make sure that we know what what we're doing so we don't kill ourselves one but to to help everybody else understand that you know what you can enjoy a good whiskey but you need to do at one in moderation honoration to you want to enjoy it and drink. It doesn't care what you drink. Just continue to drink it. I'm going to moderate all twelve of these drinks tonight. They they gave us like twelve tickets. Yes they did. There's no way we everybody that's got twelve. Take Oli Shikaki Mushrooms. And they're just small pores release attuned star. The drink cocktails are different. So yeah we wanted to start with a cocktail and we we. We like our friends at cliff and so we wanted to give that a try it just kind of kick off off the man cave here. Yeah as we're at whiskey in the winter and we have a little bit of whiskey and actually one of the title sponsors that cat would. That just was taking our picture. Yes it's John. He's one of the title sponsors optics. It's a cool news on the back of the badges and I told him we will try to talk to him. Absolute Five about find out about optics but all right matt so so we have a mule right. Yeah where do you. Where do you fall in the mules? When when drinking me ordering mill you go out and say I wanNA mules are becoming very is is a huge trend right now? You've got the ginger beer right along with generally a whiskey. Yes sometimes vodka vodka Moscow Samuel Vodka. Yeah so Moscow. Mules Vodka They're doing them with whiskey and they're doing with that Rahm doing with everything right and so we have a cliff. Mule Consoled Ginger Beer. It's actually very refreshing cherry light at this point but I'll tell you what as far as a mule goes you know when I think you I think of watching somebody drink out of the Copper Coffee Cup right right. That's kind of where I stand on a mule right but you know not out of the glass so it just it to me. It's like a cocktail. It doesn't speak mule to me at all. Yeah so I yeah I just You'll always aren't always my favorite thing And she was like you. GotTa do you gotTa do a meal. Yeah right right right you know you gotta you gotta try that but still. It's not a bad drinking off here with the with the Glib like you said it is. It's nice is refreshing. It's light Yes I is this a good winter drink. This is actually a good summer after mowing the lawn. During for me because it's light you don't WanNa get something so heavy you know what it's it's kind of Nice in kind of crisp here tonight for this kind of Nice to. It's nice and Crisp. Have that and I said Chris outside is so we're gonNA make the rows. We're going to try a few cocktails here at at the the winter winter and there's a few distillers there's a few. Ah Brand Reps here The same. We're actually going to have him on the show. We're going to give us with with optics and there's another one here that we're gonNA probably take you back a little bit. There's a small correlation relation to an episode that we did not too long ago right and it's a small correlation to Jack Daniels so we're actually going to have that brand rep from it's is coming up. Yeah that's coming up in a whole lot more for whiskey in the winter with the man cave happy hour and then John was gonNA grab John. So let's grab John On. Yes please and pull him into the conversation. You sound okay I think so. Yeah we can actually do. Things are actually unfolding nicely here at the a shipping company. You actually change voice to be a little more gravelly nowhere cats weights Born with a wreck voice. But it's a wonderful. Yeah so one of the title sponsors here at Whiskey in in the winter down at the Detroit Shipping Company. Yes is optic from Birmingham and we have the owner with us. Dr Joe Ails Dr. uh-huh Joe Joe. Thanks for Dr Joe. I'm just calling you Dr Joe. That's fun So Joe thanks for stopping instead of sitting down now. Why owner is is an optic a google glass eyeglasses? Generally optometrist up here not amateurs I have a very but I'll I wanNA hear this out. I so what brought you connected you with a whiskey in the winter. Y Y sponsors well Sponsoring it is Because basically I got involved with doc this sort of thing because well one thing is just think about what's happening in Detroit. Yes all this resurgence. It's really it's real all this time and he's events like this are almost like a celebration of that. Yes and I'm I WANNA be a part of that and you look around this crowd. It's really diverse. It's fantastic Barracuda's excellent. I've never been in this now. I feel bad. I've never been in this location but we were just talking about another bar our cafe Tomago. Then you've got the whiskey thing above Grand truck and you got. There's like how many different craft cocktail places down there so many places to try and do now downtown downtown at a native detroiter. As born in the city city we lived like seventy vandyke until about ninety three when we moved out ninety three. We still didn't have cable in our neighborhood. You know because I was working the Oh fifty. That's IT I worked for my dad. My Dad was a title center. Okay talion I was going to tell you pretty much talent your family's bathroom helper my my father so my house. There's a leak in the house. was built by Detroit House. It was built by the guy who owned there was nor town theater There was a movie theater. Seventy mandate called the not Nortel Theater. The guy that Own debt that we that was his house and after the riots He moved out and I came along and sixty six so I was one years old and I was the fourth one wanting there was not enough room in my folks are like well we gotta move. We need a bigger place at a lot of people were cleared out sixty seven and there was this gorgeous house and it was big And so yeah it was like really it was it was kind of a lavish house. It's actually still expanded on it too. It's still standing and it's the neighborhood is is about ninety eighty percent solid. There's a few empty lots The neighborhood's pretty good. There's the polls Croat's point over barrel-a-day having So the house is still there but I I love the city. I love the research that's going on. I just I can't wait for it to get the whole city I want. I want the whole city to comeback resurgence agents. You know you know I. It's it's gotta be everybody involved. It can't just be downtown campus Martius. It's gotta be every surrounding neighborhood you know and I I'm wondering when he talked about Europeans and you ask them where they're from they don't say like like we say Michigan right there limp more city-based. I'll say Paris France France or area Germany or something. We we still say Michigan. And it's almost as if we treated our major cities like Detroit like that instead of I always say Detroit when it's really now it's super cool. I'd try I always obviously internationally Detroit. Yeah I was actually motown motown. I was in Ireland. We're pumping gas and I have is made Detroit t shirt and this guy's like Detroit Detroit and I'm like yeah and it was like Oh my God you know Eminem. I'm like well. As a matter of fact I've been bowling with him and they're like they're like losing their minds you know 'cause I like shot videos. It is quick did his videos and so I actually have hold with them but these were amazed. I was like God at the gas station for about fifteen minutes. Resurgence of this city house helps the entire area. All the all the counties benefit at this is the center of Culture and anyway Probably sometime next year there will be my business partner. And I are opening up an optic Detroit and we're GonNa make frames lasts frames and Detroit. We've been working on it for a couple of years. And they task it'd be the fifth factory in the country. Oh okay with four others. So it's a big deal. We've we've actually already collaborate on MOTOWN ZAM sixty year anniversary. We made frames twenty two hundred forty limited edition for Anza. You can buy at the motown all town museum. Oh what's that. Proceeds are going one hundred percent toward the they're redoing the museum or fifty million. Yeah I'm super already already Involved in that regard. I can't wait to get their tasks. Congratulations on their. Yeah that was cool. That's that is amazing sub. So just just pride in the city and I love it. I love that you're doing that So what whiskey's right when you're in a cocktail Idea drink straight it. You do it on the rocks. Do you like cocktails. What what kind of whiskies? What are you drinking on because your glasses? Empty at the moment redirect water in their uh-huh whiskey and water when the pacing yourself the water. But you have to go to. Do you have a favorite as far as whiskies. I like I don't really. I've been drinking bourbon a little bit more. If I'm going to have a little after dinner drinkers sure but any particular just whatever you know most just expensive on on the menu. I tried to go I I look at the most expensive the least expensive one in the middle so have you ever done. Have you ever done the pappy. Have you ever had. Yes ask for the ninth. Yeah have you. It was It was good smooth. Okay I did go to Kentucky at did the Bourbon tour okay. I mostly stood by the counter. Where whether their nose high end drove all that way? It's GonNa hope in hoping the heavy pork comes across pretty smooth. Yeah well yeah. That's and that's another reason why I'm here that you attach people ask me. They said well people are going to be out drinking a lot of whiskey. I'm here to help out and see straight. That was my theory that I was afraid to earlier. Because that's what you do. Is You put one hand over. One can read the bottom line. Still says I W. You owe and are there's a till we get our stuff together with our transit systems asshole area The the two companies. There's people who live at home the queue line. Take me all the way back to home. The bills are building and night in a dream. They reached out to you you know. What was your first thought when Metra Time said Hey? We're doing this you know. Would you liked to be a part of it. What was your first thought? When no and then he loads prince made a better deal? Learn something after all these years. No no I actually participated. I've sponsor There are other events like similar to this shirt. And it's like I said it's always it's just it's marketing really read these events attract people from all over them which pound area all severs eleven the place and so you discern letting them now I exist and are you right in downtown Birmingham or Ham. Yes downtown. Okay we're people people come in and get their eyes checked and yeah we Our claim to fame. We have the largest collection of original unused vintage frames and Michigan morning. But he was doing what I'm doing. This show has got known for that and I have a lot of exclusive kind of these unused into trey. It's just like if you get into anything else. The find out about people around the world. There's a guy actually in Germany and there's another Paris most of the factories that produce frames were in in Europe or Italy Germany France and so they're still all the back stock sitting there and you can go there and you just have to get a pair way fares from you without the bloody ray-ban on the side of it. I actually had and still do have a lot of vintage even bands as we are span. Matthew and I are both sitting here yeah next year six months from now. Hopefully you'll be able to wear a pair at a rate here in Detroit paying him all balch paying somebody a living wage here quality. I like I like it. Elliott yes. Everything's branded now. I actually you know it's because I had a pair there and their scripts and sunglasses and a crackdown and I'm like So now I gotta replace him and I got to replace him with the ones with the logo. Go on it and I just. I'd like the other ones we were just talking to a guy that actually has a family that all wear glasses or tougher one child because she got lucky with twenty twenty vision but everyone else. You're you're going to have my money here pretty soon. Yeah they'll she probably needs classes. That was long twenty four. Dr Joe Take my money. That's it's the first class in in school number one. Everyone needs classics. I may tell you about that. Well thanks so much I just We wanted to to say hi. You don't think optic for for being a sponsor and man full house four house. Yeah this this is really great. These these events are special ed here. Let's go to expand and I'll be. I'll be here again. Dr Joe Thank you. so much cheers man served. Thank you very much. Dr Jill was was Great Matthew. Yes he was. One of the most well-spoken gentleman that we've talked a long time so far the most sarcastic is yeah. He was a lot of fun just because we just hit pause there we were gone for like ten minutes. Two seconds to people. Who didn't that ten minutes just as we play pause around the corner uh-huh The one of our favorite guests that we've had from the mainly sportscenter. Oh my goodness Any of those guys are so fat mainly from the sports. My brother We did. We did a show recently from from his house And have had a few tastings actor. Joe It's like small world. Times was his knee Ryan. Here it is it is it is a ton of it is a ton of fun. We're having a ton of fun WE'RE GONNA do a couple of episodes here so this is going to wrap it on this one. I think we're going to try a couple more things a few more people so You know huts around on the on the Medicaid gave happy hour like subscribe. Go to the website. If you have a cocktail you'd like us try. You'll you'll let us know because we want to learn a spirit that we should go investigate S. gate. Yes you know we would love to talk about what what you would like us to kind of help you out with You you will fly. You can fly us to you. You know that's not a bad choice. I'm like I'm I'm a I'm a I'm a whore will drink a sex worker. Drake worker worker What does that all right actually? Literally correctly so fly us to you. We will come to you please. No we sell Albano like subscribe Leave a comment if you if you have a suggestion you WanNa do something. Yeah just chime in You can do that through facebook. You can find us on facebook. Social Mayor Man Cave Dot Com. WWW dot our dot com. I saw the instagram. The twitter we're out there. We do post quite a bit. But you know what we're here to learn and we hope you can learn with us so thanks for joining us and All right so there you go. Mad cheers cheers.
25. COVID-19: ID Part 2: Protecting Healthcare Workers with Drs. Chida and Nematollahi
"Worldwide cardiovascular disease affects the lives of hundreds of millions dedicated cardio nerds everywhere are working hard to fight this global epidemic. These are their stories. Cardi nerds Dan binder here. We are in the midst of a four part. Infectious Disease Mini Series. All about coping. Nineteen in our last episode. We're joined by two wonderful infectious disease. Experts Dr Natasha and Dr Simon New to lie from the Johns Hopkins Hospital. We talked about all things need to know about emerging treatments for cove in nineteen. We now continue with part two of this important discussion and delve into the important subject of protecting healthcare workers during the pandemic be short. Stay tuned for the remaining two parts of this mini series in which we will discuss the clinical presentation diagnosis of covered nineteen and finally high yield aspects behind the garage of the novel Corona Virus. We are also very excited to let you know that we have launched a cove in Nineteen Youtube Lecture series doctors and Gauge Andrew Higgins and wrongly from the Cleveland Clinic. Present a phenomenal talk. That reacquaint cardiology with mechanical ventilation doctor per not harm it summarizes cardiovascular implications of cove in nineteen learn from our colleagues from China. Dr Deepak Autry and Victor Novel from Harvard. Brigham and Women's Hospital dive into all things you ever wanted to know about SARS covy to virology and the rationale of emerging treatments and Dr Rita Gupta from Vanderbilt presents. A phenomenal two part series of Maya Cardio dysfunction in myocarditis in Cova nineteen patients. All of this can be found on our covert page. Www DOT carter nerds dot com forward slash episodes forward slash cove in nineteen folks? We've already put the core in corona virus. Now it's time that we put the ID in covert but before we do. Please note that this episode was recorded on March. Twenty seventh twenty twenty as information rapidly evolves. Please stay up to date with the most current guidelines. Please remember this. Podcast is not meant to be used for medical advice. The views expressed here do not necessarily reflect the opinion and policies of our employers. The goal is simply to learn. More ABOUT CARDIOLOGY. I mean infectious disease. In the cove era directly from our expert micro nerds our colleagues here and across the world. Going to work every day to take care of patients hand in hand with an army of hospital workers. Of course it's an honor and a privilege to serve always especially at a time like this but the impact on health care. Workers has been quite severe We've heard reports of up to twenty percent of the healthcare workforce in Italy's infected over thirty three hundred workers in China were infected as of early. March doctor has shamisen in Iran conveyed to us that several of his colleagues had also died early on when Before Corona virus was identified hearing all these reports so sobering and certainly the dangers to health. Care workers are real and prevalent in. Unfortunately we are already seeing that here. In America advice on how to protect ourselves and our families has been inconsistent in a bit confusing in our case. Docker spikes took care of Miss Kobe's in the clinic and Dr Sam Bresca and David for Pharaoh are taking care of her in the ICU. They just messages with some questions. Their immediate question about the use of P P or personal protective equipment. They noticed a huge variation recommendations practices. Dr Been Tony of Italy and professor. Been cow of China told us that they are using ninety five around Kobe areas and surgical masks everywhere else in the hospital the CDC is recommending only surgical masks only in Kobe areas with restricted to aerosolize procedures. Some in his apologies in China goes so far enforce compulsory facemask us in public areas for everyone. The issue is compounded by restricted testing and asymmetric transmission. What is your guidance for us? All a little bit confusing yeah. That's great. What I'll share is largely based on guidelines we've received from Hopkins Administration also from the CDC. So I think a lot of this will be based on your own institution guidelines. Unfortunately no as far as covy to spreads are lack of availability of PP requires us to safely conserve and reuse PP. You know to be honest. Probably a lot of should be wearing surgical mask and facials at all times when we see patients and then wearing you know an end ninety five or like papper for patients that are under investigation or confirmed cases. And this like I said it's May differ with each institutions are encouraged each learner to follow those guidelines so these issues with p. p. e. really stems from unfortunately United States not being able to make their own. Pp really quickly and then the supply chain drying up. And so I learned this from Peterson. Hong recently as far as being able to use the principles from flu and applying that to the krona virus. And so we really want to just protect our Nico size so since this is droplet virus says the TASHA had mentioned the travelling three to six feet. We WanNa wear a mask and a facial to really protect our mouth or nose and also is all these macossa surfaces and so since it can also live on surfaces like Natasha had mentioned. We want to wear gown to protect our clothing because it can land on there. We can carry that home with us but if an ICU the patient we should try to get the patient into a negative pressure room due to risk of procedures and Arabization of the virus during those procedures. There are ways to try to conserve this. We can try to limit people going in out of rooms. We can try to reuse and ninety five mass and surgical massive. We need to also reusing and cleaning face masks and so there's a number of our procedure so we can do but again. Each institution has their guide. As far as what you should be using what you should be. Conserving and the methods to clean each of these materials. You know for example. University of Nebraska has developed a UV radiation protocol to decontaminate. All there in ninety five mass. So the I think that's a great summary Salmaan. I'll just clarify that. Cdc's guidance if you read the fine details for healthcare professionals Does recommend ninety five but it says if the supply chain is disruptive than to go to surgical masks but it actually does say when the supply chain is restored you should return the use of ninety five or papers so but preference is still five or papers but I think just takes into account the reality of the situation that we're in. Which is that you know. If your institution just doesn't have enough then. You have to go to the next best thing which would be surgical masks. And I think all of us don't like that in all of us would love to have copious amounts of an ninety five's around. Unfortunately just right now. That's not the case in. I think practicality is driving some of these CDC recommendations. But I think we have to be careful as Osama said about making sure. We Don Doff R. P. in a way that prevents exposure to ourselves and that we're careful about not potentially allowing for transmission through contaminated masks. There isn't clear data on whether or not that happens. There are some papers at hypothesize it could have happened. And so it certainly seems to be a possibility but again. I think this is just unfortunately the situation that we're in right now the Tasha in someone thank you so much for walking us through that This of course has been an issue of major concern for a lot of fuss and think I want to highlight. What you said is to certainly go based on our local institutional guidelines which are based on CDC guidelines. But it's also I think helpful to realize there is a disconnect between what's ideal and what we're being asked to do and just at least realizing that hopefully will help us not become totally secure in how were carrying out her day in and not complacent so I think it's a call essentially to help improve the supply chain and production access to P P. I think one important thing that's going to help us get through this. This trust in each other as healthcare professionals entrust in our health system that we work in. And so I think I would just site that you know if even if what your institutions recommending to. You seems inappropriate. I think we just have to recognize that people are doing the best they can with what they have and that I think institutions are just trying to keep people safe as possible with the resources that they have but I know it can be hard not to get frustrated if you don't agree with the guidance but you know people are are thinking hard about this and are doing what they can do to keep their employees safe and it's not a great situation for us to be in but I think just giving each other some grace and trying to understand why decisions are being made is really important now. Let's take this moment to unplug Get us. Pp Eat providers that came together to help connect people who have extra PPE with people who need P P thank you so back to Some of the concerns we've heard from fellow healthcare providers. Their second major concern is how they should protect their families. Many have spouses elderly relatives and or children at home. A healthcare worker risking their health and life because of their calling one thing but to impart risk on a loved. One at home is quite another thing because of this. Fear providers are practicing all sorts of different rituals I know it's wife showers after work before playing with their son. Dhruv two of her co workers have corona virus. Doctor Has Chaman Iran remains completely isolated from his family and emotionally described his grief about the potential for not being able to hold his son and daughter for days possibly months. Dr Ray in idea tending at Hopkins recently tweeted about staying at a hotel while he practices on the covert service to protect his family on. We definitely know that option has been made available to fellows and I'm sure other faculty are going to be looking towards opportunities of either. Staying in hotels or AIRBNB is in order to protect their family during this time. And this is such a hot topic issue. You can literally open up your phone anytime and somebody. I popped up my phone on twitter and it's like the first post I see is somebody who's asking. So how do we? How do we know into separate from our families? Where are we with this today? And you know. In this perspective piece published in New England Journal Medicine titled Quote. Am I part of the cure or am I part of the disease? Dr Christian rose elegantly describes his worry about bring home. The viruses elderly mother-in-law he decides to stay friends instead You know and Dr Sam Brusca as we've talked about who? Eloquently taught us about a mechanical restoration in the circulatory system is about to leave the ICU. After taking care of his Co. Vitz and he's about to go home to his wife and infant daughter. Madeline what should he do? He said he's out of hotel points on his credit card and he's just literally trying to find a plan ahead. What would you advise him? Yeah that's a really really difficult question to answer. I'm not sure if there's any formal recommendations on this you know. We had a rian amazing. An eye opening conference call with our colleagues from China. Who mentioned that? She that a all. The healthcare workers rationally in a hotel in separate rooms for a couple of months while they're taking care of cove it nineteen patients until the rates decreased. And then they stayed in the hotel for an extra week or so afterwards to make sure they didn't develop any symptoms and then they reunited with their families. And then there's others as you mentioned that they separate from their families but they live in the same house but they're you know they have different shower that using different utensils and then there are some that come home and they remove their clothes merely or maybe even better yet they have scrubs or they change out of the hospital. Come home shower. Interact with their loved. Ones I think aside from the emotional pressures of isolating yourself from your family. There's even like the financial even Physical issues of not being able to separate yourself and so I think you know this decision may need to be individualized. But I'll pass over to Natasha. See if she has any other thoughts or perspectives on this system of thanks to any hands her who is the ID Faculty member Hopkins. Who's arranged multiple calls with colleagues in China to help us understand their clinical experience? I think as saying this is going to be individualized decision and a lot of it. Just depends on. What's what you're able to do. And what your capacity is and what the risk is right if you live with somebody who's at particularly high risk of severe disease may be. You're GONNA think more about not staying at home if you live with somebody who knows a healthy thirty year old person and you you can probably really self isolate while within your house. That's a different situation. So you know. I don't think we have great data yet on what people need to do while. I think the Chinese were later on that pedantic pretty aggressive about separating healthcare workers in South Korea that was done and they didn't actually see a lot of healthcare worker transmission. So it's unclear. I think at this point what people should do. And that's why it comes down to individual decision-making I you know I'm going to be attending on the covert service in. May and I haven't entirely decided what I'm GonNa do. I have two young kids at home and a husband. Who's a resident? So we'll have to talk about it right now. I'm getting towards a probably staying in a separate place I think. Hopkins is looking into providing housing for providers But I decided you know this is a topic that hits home for all of us quite literally in my situation you know I will be in the CU quite soon. My wife isn't a needle ICU. As a provider and my son isn't a daycare. Seru any one of US could be the culprits bringing it home and it's just not really realistic for each of us to stay isolated. I have unquestioned. That's also in the minds of healthcare workers this concept of becoming a covert nineteen super user. So some people are wondering for example. Docker Dan grow whose ICU attending who unfortunately got Kovic but fortunately had mild illness. And it's starting to get better but he's wondering hate should he be? The Guy doing intimation from now on like is protected should he considered himself a code super user. You know I think we have to be careful about assuming that people are fully protected after recovery from illness there in some cases where it seems that people who had a resolution Recurring or are they had on tests. That became positive again and I. I think majority of people think that it's unlikely people are getting reinfected. Just because from immune system standpoint Immunity shouldn't wear off within weeks were days and most people are thinking that perhaps this is an issue of testing and testing error and perhaps people were not newly positive again but I just Continue to be positive. I think the majority of folks think reinfection is unlikely but I think until we have better information. We can't say it's a completely impossible situation. You know regardless there are reports that people may have a redeveloped some gems and so. I think it's hard to know whether or not you're fully safe I think it's probably likely that you have immunity but without knowing I would hesitate to jump in and start breaking people without a mask on things like that. I think we also just have to be careful to keep in mind that when we're returning to work we saw even if we'd been infected as a healthcare worker we still need to be really cautious. User P P not only to protect ourselves to make sure that we're not transmitting to others through four nights or or things like that particularly given how long people can shut for. We don't know whether or not shutting correlates to chance of civility. But I think if you know that you may have virus in your throat I probably would still be really cautious with Thanks so much for the answer and that makes sense and I'm sure Dr Rogue will definitely follow all the precautions. But what do you make of the fact that people in Wuhan there hasn't seemed to be another wave? Does that tell you anything? Short term that that there is some l. e. shorts community that such people could right. Now get back into the field and be more comfortable in these rooms and there is less risk. I think it's our ten terabyte because he still had a lot of Mandatory social distancing being done in China that only recently was laid off. So I think it's hard to interpret anything in that situation. We have some friends that are. They're not in the province but in China and They mentioned that they were isolated. Essentially for these last few months just as Natasha's mentioned gist thing. Last week they have been able to just go out with in this small neighborhoods in this neighborhood. Really means like a complex of three to four buildings. And there's a small park in the middle and their jest when small groups of people are able to come out of their apartment and be outside in that area so they are just starting to remove a little bit of the physical distancing. But it's still quite restricted as Natasha. Mention thank you so much for that. Yes thank you so much over that brings us to the end of our show so it's time to make like an S. two and split. You can follow us on twitter at Don't forget to check out the amazing illustration that. Corinne prepared free all at www dot cards dot com and please share. What makes your heart flutter this week? Send US A CLIP. Two cards gmail.com if you enjoyed the show the inert and spread the word and now aflutter. Hello. My Name is Dr Meredith. Sloan and I'm a internal medicine resident at the University of Mississippi. Medical Center made my heart flutter this week was our medical students is specially our fourth years. They have really stepped up to the plate in our community. They're delivering groceries to elderly people in their neighborhood. They're making assembly lines to make SWAB KITS and they're answering phone calls on the employee hotline for seven nineteen. They make me so humble and proud that they'll be joining our ranks in just a few short months. Think golf all the hard work you putting the podcast together. I've really enjoyed it Dan. They just messaged us with some questions. Reading my Gosh excreting. Oh my Gosh No. I'm you get no no no no no. I had muted. I'm sorry I'm sorry and it was so good. You guys missed out. It was really amazing.
Was the change in Christmas rules inevitable?
"The spectator magazine combines incisive political analysis with books and reviews of unrivalled or ity subscribed today for just twelve pounds. I'm receiver twelve weeks subscription in print and online plus a twenty pound amazon gift voucher. Absolutely free go to spectator dot co dot uk food slash voucher. Hello and welcome to copy. Has shorts spectators. Daily politics podcast. And you're bring your second podcast on a saturday and that's because we have some bad news. The prime minister has limited impromptu. Press conference where he and that's new. Cova christmas restrictions. This involves a two tier system in the shape of tiff. Four and also changes to the christmas rules. No matter way in the uk you live is about what the specifics of what the prime minister so there will be a new tier two for not be london post the southeast south and east of england going into that from midnight tonight and that's essentially locked down but with religious services so people would be instructed to stay home including on christmas day there will be no mixing between households a tool not even on christmas day. The only mixing you can have his support bubbles where people have a particular risk of loneliness and 'isolation or member of one household meeting with one member of another household out and non essential shops personal care services such as hairdressers and now baas will close so that's for tier four and then tears one. Two three three households will still be able to form a bubble on christmas day. Only but no overnight stays and james when the prime minister was in nineteen minutes in the press conference. What are the big justifications or perhaps in a way the only one he was really pushing forward was this new strain of corona virus suggesting that it wasn't so much that he had misread the situation previously bat a new strain of corona virus spreads easily spread rapidly means that we are now factory and position where mutants have to be in place. What did he mean by that so thought this would actually put most clearly by christmas. The chief medical officer he essentially said that what is going on is that in the areas country which have the the old strain so the previous version of the virus. Tier three is working. But the reason tiffany is not working in kent and other parts of southeast is because the new strain is is most common there and essentially this. Is you answer the question. That has been puzzling people. Which is why had tear. Free proved effective in liverpool and personal but was proving so ineffective in kent now in these. The new tier four restrictions with people not meant to leave their house. Travel outside to you for and whizzy was quite clear that you know. He doesn't want anyone leaving tonight here. Getting the getting the kind of loss to of saigon stall to leave a southeast because he's one this new virus this new mutation of the virus to spread from outside kenton the rest of the east of the rest of the country. I have to say given how long this new variation appears to have been in circulation in those places are find it hard to believe that it won't spread to the rest of the country. But i think this is. This is clearly a sign of things bad. John edmonds robert preston the tv news to the jordan's members. Say she says that because of how much more transmissible this new version of ours is. This is the worst moment in the pandemic so far in the uk. Now both the imbalanced disagreed with that arguing that the better treatments and the vaccine means that's not right but it is clearly of this. New variation of the virus is complicating things. I think it is though also were saying that you know. The boris johnson was as recently as wednesday arguing. That he wasn't going to go back on these christmas offers. And there is undoubtedly the doubt by cancelling. This late means that families have made plans spent money on on size of turkey. They probably wouldn't spent money on a fate known what the restrictions were over. This was going to be even everywhere in the country. It was going to be one day. Only and in london in the southeast. They'll be household mixing. And i've this will lead to lots of people saying that. This government consistent nikonov ops on optimistic side and then has to tighten restrictions. Rav them being pessimistic and then saying people on the fifteenth of december. What actually the. The data is looking better than expected. So we can we can. We can ease the rules. More christmas says obviously going to be a debate about that but it does seem like this. New virus has changed the debate about the transmissibility of ours. And the i mean the decision to alert the world health organization to it. I think that has more than twenty. Variations is quite clearly a does injuries significantly different from previous wars over. It is worth noting. Patrick balance still seem to think for the vaccines have been developed. Like to work with even if it's new variation of ours is about you think the prime minister's change tack is going to land as as fast in terms of public perception and also tori. Mp's we've heard carpet the chairman of the cave recovery group saying that parliament autry recalls and There should be a vote and so forth as she was going to rephrase that the parliament which be recalled and that the government must publish a clear exit strategy but openly. All the polling has suggested that a large chunk of the public do did. The rules were too relaxed. And boris johnson. And his team very keen to say that it wasn't that he is david because they need just got the data we know. There is a meeting with ministers today. So this does fall into. I suppose a pattern that he's been accused of not making decisions quickly enough. Og orgies there's enough evidence suggests that he he didn't ask she have what he needed up until the rental as. I'm not sure that the problem is him not making decisions quickly enough or indeed him changing policy as he argued the press conference. When the facts change. Did you have to change your policy. It's more the way in which he stuck to decisions and mocked people for instance case starmer who have questioned those decisions often to go further saying that wants to cancel christmas. Install murray's captain hindsight and making all these sort of slightly jokey political comments about the decision that he's abiding by only two three days later reverse that decision and go for what his opponents had been suggesting. And this is a pattern that we've had throughout the pandemic and it's partly his optimism. Bias that we've talked about a lot where he does hope that we are getting closer to this light at the end of the tunnel that he keeps talking about. But there's also. I think a sort of campaigning aspect to this. Where he he has seen his response to the pandemic times as being a campaigning. Opportunity a chance for him to show a contrast between his leadership and the way in which kissed army's always so cautious and sits on the fence over things. And that has really. I think caused him to come a cropper. A number of times. Now if you talk about the public support in the polling on this where the majority of the public have have been saying over the past few weeks. They think that the current arrangements for christmas a two locks and they'd be happy with with tough restrictions if you talked to conservative. mp's about that. They said that they think that polling is rubbish. Not that the methodology used for carrying out. The code is wrong but people are in favor of tougher restrictions for other people who are doing bad things like spreading corona virus but their personal infringements. The existing restrictions are entirely justified. Because of this reason and that reason and i think we can all recognize that in ourselves ashley. It's been a feature throughout this pandemic of people going to shop going to parks and say i can't believe how many people i saw when i was in this place to without realizing that the irony of that and that means that that conservative. Mp's actually think that the public support and the public tolerance for these measures is much lower than the polling is suggesting which is why you've got mark harper as you said calling for a recall of parliament going to get a lot of conservative. Mp's a couple of weeks ago after the vote to reintroduce the tearing system was saying that further lockdown would be leadership myself for boris johnson and he were predicting when i spoke to a few of them a couple of days ago that they felt that that was a that that could be sort of misuse of the tier system. And the way it had been approved at that previous votes of the government could go further unconservative. Mp's had really felt they were giving their consent for so i think we are going to see ructions in the conservative party over the next twenty four hours over this and james lots of people are. I'm just hearing data leave but was were seeing on social media and safe for out mistaking. Why did they promise. As christmas in the fast place saying we could have understood the fact that we wouldn't be able to d much but for the prime minister to suggest this could be on. The cards has actually made that much more. Painful have experienced some people. Yeah i this is undoubtedly problem. I mean if you look at the time of decision. I think in a way the four nations discussions on christmas begun on the twenty four november. That was going to before we'd have much of the vaccine good news we've had recently and there is an element in saying now that we know of the vaccines that next christmas should be normal and possibly even east of zero next year could be normal. there was a case for saying to people. Oh i'm sorry. Christmas this year is going to be rubbish but will make it ought to you next year and undoubtedly this. This change in plans is late in the day. You know. they're all going to be in the fact that you for example. Nonessential retail is being shot in london. The southeast there'll be lots of people. You could've gone my christmas shopping office of the disruption to people's lives is going to be huge and considerable welby businesses. That will be kinda thrown into even deeper trouble by these changes. So i mean that is true. I think everything. I designed like a broken record on this. I mean everything does not depend on how quickly the vaccine can rolled out on how fast life can be return to something approaching normal. Because i think that you know that that asked what he puts people will. That is what people desperately want. They want some sense that there is some sense that the they had that they can have justified confidence that they will get back to normal at some point. But i didn't even get this christmas in hawaiian. People clearly have been led to think that they could be able to do one thing and then it's changed now you can say don't you never as a pandemic on or you can say the government should be more cautious about what it is offered people. I mean the to watch what happens in the rest of europe. Is this strain only in the uk or is it in offer places given the traveling between kent and the continent. It will be surprising if a if variant virus at stansted in kent hasn't managed to travel across borders. Thank you james. Thank you is about and thank you for listening. And we'll be back with further developments as and when we get them.
"Good morning and welcome to the Kensington Corner. I am Jeff. I'm Tom Today. We are lucky enough to have Jeff Nichols former navy seal performance I founder exercise physiologists theologist and a graduate from university in two thousand and two with us today. Jeff I want to say I honor but second. I don't think we'll you probably know because is your instagram. But how big of a cult following you have man i. It's insane. Yes cotton You know it's very humbling to me because has a story. I guess this is probably a good segue like people will wonder how I came up with the name. Occasionally right in it was just this Kinda I. I just laughed my previous business that I was calling her four and just felt pretty unfulfilled because in a sense like that facilities still exists. Now on the coaches are still there and they focus on youth. Athletes do such a great job of it. I just really had a calling still the same way that I joined the service service Alexa just felt like I had this information. Technology share with tactical population law enforcement police so on mowing the yard and I'm just frustrated so frustrated traded with like what it is and I had this thought my head. It's like just one. Everything focused on performance. I kind of how it will happen. I mean this was never my intention truly. I never really thought I could. House career let alone monetize Training in the way that I do in to the point where I can a lifestyle so I really really fortunate to our grant. I had amazing teachers along along the way but I never intended on being this way. I got so many people that really care. That's what's really great amounts military while forcing inquires the vast majority of folks really do care about their job a really do inherently in so. I think that that's created a inner jenner against an online relationship with you will is so many people doubts on. I guess like the way I deliver information so very much appreciative about i. I would say and I said this before. We started recording. When you talk about right now as far as the pinnacle where guys are really going to I? It's you guys over at thirteen bars. You know and and I when we we push out your guys as programs I mean I cannot tell you one telling you know when I when I led our group know that you we're coming on there's about seven or eight guys there that have already doing your programs especially the hypertrophy one and it is It it's it's so funny to me the Colt following that I see you know and but the thing is that one of those programs where they work you know and there there. I don't they think the difference between you guys that I see from all the other fitness stuff on instagram. which is such a crowded market is that they don't feel cookie cutter you know you they? They're actually feels like there's some thought going into it and the one thing I'll say about your brand that I loved most is that and I told Jeff this right before you got on. I was like dude. You could watch one. His life feeds and come away exhausted. From how much knowledge this guy is pushing out and I'm not sure that people in us being a little older with science backgrounds as well I think that for for us we can kinda dissect it and be like. Wow but I don't think people realize in these live feeds how much information when you're really putting down. I think that you know there's a couple of things on along. That statement is that the first is that I'm forty one years old and I. I've immersed myself in this In this profession even when I was in the teams for eleven years is this. It's always been beyond a hobby for me. It's been a real passion because just fascinated how the human body works dot. You know the United States all the time like we you have your despite the flatter ridiculousness we've put people on get in. We did that with very concise mathematics. A you granted the human body is incredibly Nevis. And we're not like I'm Saints Very Agile Mobile and we're not exactly meet Hannity direct like we are machine but in terms of simple as like how does the by set contract and how do we create more force. Those are those are fundamental laws of physiology by mechanics. We no longer have to make make up things we don at all in so. That's why just scratched my head in the amount of misinformation shared it None of quality information that good coaches and trainers will disseminate weather. Social Media in person is really overshadowed by the lack of real autry Being as the point is like I am good at facts and the reason why is because one hundred percent programs rams are derived from bio-mechanics visits right in so I don't have to gas. It just takes a long time to write a program. I the first program aerob- rope. It took me ninety six hours to write. It took me seventy hours just to do the math yet. And it was just because I had I want something like you said that it might subtle one hundred percent of the time because it has to. It's mathematically driven so I think that that's what Pe- the best of the tax for space right we're dealing explosives you're dealing skydiving. You're doing tax extra Precision in that community really demands and deserves physician so so I felt like I owed it to them to give something they themselves than could enjoy vast some knowledge into they can look at it and if they wanted to do the math they they could if they wanted if they didn't WanNa do. The math still can exactly well. I kind of choose your own adventures kind of try to create will so you know. And that's the one thing I keep hearing. Is this this idea of community and that its community driven in. I mean honestly to me. It's like that's like a very symbiotic relationship correct as a trainer right you couldn't have picked better communities be interacting with whether it be military law enforcement fire because like you said they're vested interest in so taking that level physical excellence and you know to be able to perform their jobs. The highest standard got my youngest brother. He's a firefighter here. One of the suburbs of Kansas City. And that's that's one of the things I know. He constantly focuses on as you know the idea that to be the best at his job. It demands ends. You know it demands a level of physical fitness in. Excellence that young you really do. I mean you have to dedicate yourself to that if you want to be the pit year game you you bet they just think that as much as I love for them I love appreciate Agus. The purity of what sport is before entertaining came in human idiocy sprinkled in there right but I love four and it's not that they don't deserve you know the attention the accolades and the coaches That's a looking at. The talks will silent going well. What Obama is massively under service ovulation? That really likes. Let's get beyond the cliches folks. These people were this. This country specifically could not function in a safe manner without them right in this country can vary very efficiently. Survive without sport flew in my opinion they deserve serve. There's no other population on planet that deserves quality concise truthful information when it comes to their self preservation preservation. The brothers and sisters next. That's the facts. Never get away snap because they deserve it more than anyone planning now. I one hundred percent agree agree with that. I think that's actually a good point because I don't think One a lot of times when we were talking about misinformation. I think that it's it's a little different because when you look at how easy it is now to Attain personal training certificate. And how. Oh He's it is to kind of just put that information out in the space and when you have guys like you Kinda have to wade through that. I think. That's what draws me me to talk to you more than anything because you can actually sit down with you and tell you give a shit about the community that you're talking to when your own life when you're answering stuff and you're you're talking about law enforcement your talk. There was one episode. I was watching. A guy was asking you about Rocking and talking about the hits and you were talking about stretches to do afterwards words and things the amount of prep that I think comes back and you said your forty one the experience but the amount of experience that you put in to your a craft. I think that's what wows me more than anything because they're so much thought. That goes behind what you're doing and I it's it actually bewilders me because I tried to kind of think that way too but the amount of preparation that goes into your programs I think that I it it's fascinating uh-huh type of Sometimes can bite off more than you can chew. And here's another. I mean by that. Is that like I feel like I can concise. They articulate what I'm trying to do right I would have an NFL claritin. I guess real thorough. So how do I take back. Thoroughness run S.. Put It in a PDF guide people. So it's like okay now. There's a big gap as a really big gap and information so that that's why that's that's why my website is created from the video sample rights like okay. There's a stopgap in the middle. The now people don't have time can't afford whatever it is to Siemian Ersan. I'd that's my extension yet and I think that that's what people are hungry for. They're hungry for the spectrum just in the same way that hungry for longtime communication like. We're doing doing now. They're tired of the buzzfeed tired of Cliche. There today are because why because we've gone through that for the decades as yet it now or two point especially coming off of a over a decade of conflict that may have been deeply entrenched in now it's like licking our wounds. The heal up. Because what's going to happen. We're GONNA you know the next generation will not our next with Upcoming generation is going to have to go back to Syria Syria Iran or some other shit country in deal with the nonsense that our government is creating so like but on the standpoint of this is I i what a great purpose. What a great process of holistically affecting these individuals? It's like the freshman class of the football team affect them the best because some points Riley. Talk about You know what's the character the team or This it's like you're never gonNA trae eight a real process on unless you affect the youngest generation and and and how do I. How do I know that this is true? This is true in every selection process process military in the world is because it's indoctrination right that real deep indoctrinated ages right and who are the gatekeepers. How's it been through it right? Not Politicians not teachers not not atmospheric trainers like real professionals are the gatekeepers and I think that fitness needs to be set up that way too in the same way you stay in college efforts right. The gatekeeper are the people that are entrusted by the university by the team coach. It's like I'm just I'm just over the fact that people can can get that two or three day cert now. They are considered experts in the field. And I think that now I don't WanNa at all all take any of gratitude or or anything from the people that are getting those certificates understand that years in the months and ours takes on that knowledge is far better than just saying have my certificate. Now I can just suspend this information because some certificate will. It's it's kind of like the idea like if if you were having surgery do you want somebody who's got emt certificate or somebody's surgeon for twenty years you know it's like you're you're right. The idea of not only is spectrum of like expertise expertise. They're both you talk about like just the spectrum of the process yet either so much like you know. I think first of all a huge part of the problem is right there so much bad bad information out there and then the other part that you alluded to is. There's a lot of good information out there but so much it just gets lost in translation and Yeah so that's I find that very fascinating well and Jeff Hidden. Also what you're saying man is that I don't also I don't think people realize how complex one bio-mechanics are just the course itself. Just just actually learn I. I don't think people realize that. Can you know talking about now. You know any type of ma'am phys whatsoever. I don't think people realize how complex the sciences are and I think that's also something else that gets overlooked looked a lot is that people don't realize the amount of work that actually goes into doing these things I guess I think that that's one of those things Like the TACO population a unit raised in all that it has shown us in this really amazing process like that is why the seal team's special forces in the army side whatever like take any special forces operation in the United. He says like really like we really think about that. You're getting go like EPI era too keen even either probably even arguing Buki People's like liar these units so good like why are they so capable why are they so strategic. It is the process that creates almost guarantees the outcome in so so if we recreate a process with its primary goals to make someone like her performance optimized like really engage with them and really make sure they have a plan in process. What happens at the end of that office? You get exactly what you're looking for. You're getting extremely extremely capable human beings. It's not only expressed the ability of hard work. It express their capacity to focus it expressed their capacity to endure. Were in it. Express their capacity to learn something that was a challenge in so that is the special forces ovulation. It's all those things So if you just take the way that we learn how to skydive shoot or bill demo example. Any of those anything to manifest do a trip via Tripoli live doc. It's a real process and I think that's the big difference. Is the military population law enforcement. Firefighters are used to process right. They're willing to go through it to achieve that whereas a lot of civilians are unfamiliar with that debt of assets in in. So that's why I think that's what you get like programs. I get a lot of civilians that are in a civilian or in a population they air used to a process or they craved it for whatever reason rice like it and when asked why did you join the military while I just felt like I should. Why keep asking why eventually you're just like man? I was compelled to deep down feeling. I just felt like I needed to do why because of God because of whatever reason you how right and I think that's the training is training to compliment that because from a subconscious standpoint not just an over physical stay a subconscious. Damned point is the way that we we. He's sharpen that Right we for those of us that are served that served Europe soar. There's a big difference in the blade right right and that's the process and that's the seal team's special forces that's green bridges out what it is right. It's it's putting a like an absolute edge John that that way because why it has a purpose that purpose or in the process. Not just someone's idea not someone certificate. So what I want to do is take that amazing process that we grew up in increasing trading programs. That are you know what if it doesn't work. What do we do? We make change. Try something else now. Just like didn't work jump off the ship and build. Try someone else right the process. It's kind of A. It's it's a process of both evolution and preservation. And that's what's really fascinating about man that's was really past thing about the whole idea just in general and I die that the I love. I love that analogy. By the way that's fabulous. Yeah they won the day. They are one and the same when you're in the process when you're in in the process it's Cathartic it's not only cathartic but when someone goes hey when you go to a selection process. Oh you made its route. How did you make it true like well? I followed the process. Bud set source for me right but I got physically prepared to handle that. I have to understand that. That's the difference you is if you approach it from a standpoint of fitness. You're probably GONNA fail because the point is all. These selection processes raiders fooled by us. Whatever it is those are election processes? You have to prepare yourself for physically mentally. I don't deal with the mental side directly I'd certainly I can sprinkle some wisdom some some things on it but I want to make sure I want to almost guarantee my successful ventures through that physicality can do that absolutely does. That's what we can do. That is what we can guarantee. I could machines in absolutely take incident. We find people. They're going to do it right. That's the question no it is we. We keep people's rebuts. We just gotTa find him embarrassment. I think yeah and I think you're right. As far as I. Well I would say that a lot of people do show to selection processes in shape. I think that the fascinating part about Out that we're talking about the mental aspect of everything that you see. Olympic athletes. Show up to buds and drown out in forty eight hours. It's just it's is. Just that's that's the type of mindset what I think the we talk about hardwired for the type of people that select your programs Jeff and we're speaking on this early this morning Just in casual conversation about how he was talking to somebody. That was having a hard time like getting up at eight. AM and Dan. We were Kinda like we were like okay. But it's just it's it's a different. It's the way one you're wired as a human being but two. It's a different philosophy that I think comes from how you live your life really. It's really how you think about yourself and a lot of these selection processes. You're right there. DEFLECTIONS and a lot of them are really based on average guys. Just don't win somewhat extraordinary. Everything's if you even want to call it extraordinary. I don't even know if yeah and another thing is i. I think that you know this this. This is a perfect example. People that are prepping for selection course that are able to hear this conversation actually really starts like internalizing analyzing that they are really in control if they get into a good process and I think that that is like when you ask anyone has gone through selection process all select just prepared for it. That's what I was GONNA do wasn't a voluntary thing. The reason why wasn't a voluntary thing is because you made it a physical verse verse Once I to troll the physical side of it now I'm in a position to learn right as if you're like Oh my God I'm worried I don't know if I could make me L. I'm just worried I can't. You're singing class dive physics. Second Facial Pay attention visit run. Should've taken care of self for us. Yeah I was just talking to I last night. WHO's about six months out from buds and he was saying something about his his mile time? And I'm not. I'm not sure what the navy calls there. It's like P P something he s and he was talking about. PS Times. I said Dude. You got six months one to prepare. Here's some programs you can go look at some run programs. You look at but two men. If you're heading into a bud selection and the only thing that you're worried about on your mind wind is am. I going to make this run time. You're already kind of failing yourself man at that point. You're in you know in his next comment after that was something along the lines like man. I don't know if I'm going to be able to keep up with these five minutes. Six minute mile guys and I said why are you worried about. WHO's running a five or six? What does that have to do with anything? Anything you're prepping for right now. Man has nothing to do if your head. If you're going to a selection process and the first year thinking about on a rock a swim or run is am am I gonNA be able to keep up with the fastest guy. The answer's probably going to be no and there's no reason to even today dream about that at this point and I think that that's this is a lot of guys that go through section processes come from the sport world There's some serious in here. Competition angry come geographically what sport shooting. The groping is wrestler wrestler. I was getting ready to say that. Yeah that's that's where I grew up. You know so it's like okay. I understood that mentality to to to break agree like I hate my. My High School had won seven straight state titles in wrestling ranked number one country nineteen ninety-three right. There's always someone highschool wrestling inspired. Seems like so I say that only for this is I was certain that like Pickus for but I get physically ready a writer. Yell is something that's developed so people have got to understand. These selection processes are not skilled arrived. Effort Arrive Right. Yep He does their effort arrive. There is some skill later on right now. Third Phase mother is right land navigation whatnot. But that's not the the gatekeepers aren't necessarily looking at Guilford's and so that's why like if someone chooses the correct time line to get ready. That in itself is the key right right because it's like you shouldn't have to worry about your run time unless you're twenty seven trying to get a waiver right eighteen nineteen. Oh my God. I'm going to go in if you prepare for a year year and a half starting at eighteen nineteen years old likelihood getting his just like I i. I don't know exactly what the percentages are but the failure rate at Bud's for example for eighteen year old is somewhere on ninety seven. Ninety eight percents right so someone is twenty four to twenty six. That's right you're looking at a failure rate of somewhere around sixty percents get sixty five in so that just right in itself. It's like if I'm Math Guy I'm GONNA create a program right it's GonNa best through through gets roach. Then I'M GONNA use my biological time line to help that. Yup Right and so I get eighteen year old adage really WanNa do this inc a I got it but if our the CNN. I wouldn't let anyone go through Buzzer. It was twenty twenty one or twenty two will. I'm thirty. I'm thirty one right now. Man and I'm telling you like dead serious. I'm working I I'm I'm putting work work on anybody who's eighteen and twenty one is not yet your forty one is not even close like I. I tell these kids we had this one you the eighteen year old. Oh Yeah Dude. Eighteen year old me was one hundred and fifty five pounds at six three hundred pounds under five feet. Yeah Yeah Yeah Freak in thirty yes thirty one year old. Me's six three to twenty. Yeah yeah no no I tell kids man like a lot. Well the thing is is that when we talk about result wise things. It's one social media as has escalated our time. Line a little bit but people get these thoughts in their head man around sixteen seventeen that life is this sprint and they got a they got it and they don't realize there's no pace there's no plan put for it's a marathon man Jeff and I talk about that Jeff's just turned thirty four and I'll be thirty two in July and we talk about it all the time like dude like we've we've changed a lot in the last ten years but at the same time man it's your we're still so young like yeah yeah like I feel better on. So how many ways at forty one than I ever did a twenty thirty more like I feel way better in everywhere so it is I get I get not not neither of us. None of us another another three of us are so far removed from being eighteen. Ninety right from fell when we're eighteen but the plas offending is this is the recurring cycle. Don't try to reassure that younger generation eighteen nineteen year old kids like what they're doing the process or following is the most valuable. It's it's it's funny. You say that because Tom and I go to we go. We're in school. Both of us right now so most of our classmates are in that eighteen nineteen twenty year old range and I. That's something that I always say. I said it's so funny to me because I look at them and I say that seems like it was almost yesterday to me looking back back. You know ten twelve years and then looking at me. They just think I'm ancient. Oh yes just. It's so funny. How your time changes your perception that but you don't i? I think one of the things I always think about when I compare myself now to the person I was when I was in my early twenties or young when I was eighteen eighteen going into the army is like man you know first of all yes. I'm one hundred percent with you on that the idea of the process and knowing how to first of all engage in it and trust in it but also like you're taking away some those lessons of a failure. You kind of have that approaches these things. I think a lot greater respect and a lot more humility when you have a couple more years under your belt you're not as apt in. Just blow it off and say Oh oh yeah I can breeze through this. CEO and well in the military breeds that as well too I in in certain aspects military breeds as well. Because you under it's when you have the ability at your fingertips to One call catastrophe but to to you know I mean really but to to to At a young age put that much responsibility into a child. Basically and it it. Moore's how how you see things in the future Jeff and I get out all the time and you know we're busy. We're all the time busy man. I mean we're we're scheduling podcasts. At eight in the morning because we have shit to do and You know and we often don't laugh you know but we try to help kids. How could you have kids? That are in twelve credit hours. And they're like my life's ruined. I don't know what to do. I can't I don't any time and I'm like are you have like seventy hours a week to do whatever you want. What are you talking about? It's it's perspective man. It is totally different. It's strange 'cause like my mom and sister revisiting this week and it's I have to catch I self a lot of times in my delivered a certain people because I think that the way that I chose to raise myself with upbringing in my fam- again a a clear is that I don't know why exactly I was wondering where was lie. In the way I am necessarily other than I guess said my son is fall of in thirteen in here in a couple days. He's larger in stature way. Annihilated Madison knows senior high school a huge ship. My shoulder huge huge. Big as I can imagine riot is manifested itself an extremely violent unhappy human being a long time. I had an outlet teams. Were the hat on. I think that it's really very very hard to convey to a young population. That success is is not building success. Not My bill true. I can drill failure in like heartbreak. Getting your heart rugged yet getting your dreams crushed like and I wish that on anyone right and I don't mean like Oh my God I mean. I grew up in the Arctic Chamber. Shame them with loving parents still to the sad I am but there's something to be sad about really putting yourself in an uncomfortable position Shirley to see if you if you want something right I edit you already said nobody says some people do like your shit to do in the morning get up early God. Most people don't like getting up early. That's too bad the L.. Yes she's too bad yes so so then it becomes what my partner had all the time with US forces the malls horsemen fire. We have time in the day. Okay tell me your schedule Egypt. See there's different priorities for different. People is not that I'm right right or wrong. It's just that some of the time this time you're trapping this. You're not doing this. You know like if you know. ooh You aren't a deficit right. Let's remove lifestyle away but let's look at tax credits go. Hey you need to become a better shooter right. We are any sort is is a great example. Bad practice does not yield quality results. Right that is that is a special forces operation to a T.. Right so so we can. We can stop feeling sorry for ourselves right as tree service. We can start feeling as we can stop feeling sorry for ourselves more actors doc was sure she can stop feeling. Sorry for ourselves out of service because you know what all of us join in a time of war right on our own own accord right when we get out like we got there. All three of US know people were close with that came out of out of conflict on select far worse physically than media motion away words man. I'm as a veteran here saying. Listen Stop Complaining About Your Service. Did you volunteered for it in star. Todd there is. If you can't think of a positive threads Ullah from your service just shut up yet. Has Every single one of us has ground so positively or made friends or just. I really created this responsible doll and its moated who you are. That's that's one thing that people don't you know whether for good or bad however you WanNa look at however however you WanNa look at it has molded who you are as a person and I don't you know there's a bunch of facebook groups out there and I think I told Jeff this last last week man I I was actually shown in one of just do just so much complaining man and I'm like are you. You decided to spend twenty five years then man like you. You knew you knew the toll it was taking. You knew what was happening. You like and that all comes back to a lot of I was. I was divorced I at a young age man and I look back on now. Thirty one and say she lasted through two appointments and I got back from the first one and was absolutely bat shit crazy and and drunk and drunk for nine months so I didn't put the time into make something worse chance she didn't have a chance dude. You look back now. She's happy she's is married again to kids. She's living her life and I don't at this point in my life regret you know what happened because emotive who I am but it's that was my hi decision. I'm not the one going to work and being like man. My Bitch ex wife took all Mazda. Well no dude. I drank all our savings away. And then she left me That's kind of how it happened. Common thread with each veterans misery. There is one common thread with every single veterans misery. Every single veterans success story in. It's fucking veteran. Yes Yeah Dot Com. That's it yes. Insult me. Same thing with my with my drug addiction my infidelity. Incidentally he might the divorce all that stuff. It was my fault yet. Not Today's fall not to seal teams fall not my parents fault now my friends fault not my environments. Yeah I'm a big existential philosophical wise so I'm that's kind of quote me as a core. I try not to try not to blame other people. I it comes out but I don't think people take enough accountability and credibility for their own actions. And it's much much easier life to say Well the reason why was this or the re instead of being like well another reason why I'm probably a little fucked up. I think the the idea again. Just you know cultivating that internal locus that you know you are the person that's responsible for you whether that's your successes. Your failures and I've really benefited did personally we We have a Vietnam veteran. Lives just south of here Then you know he's been a really positive influence on me because you know that guy I is just such interest rates were got spit on glittering. He is so positive and he's just like I think just watching. John has helped me be a better person. You know but he likes it he just he puts that out there and I think that's one the big lessons I've really learned from him. Is is a man you know you you. You're the one that's responsible for your own attitude and you're the one the slop over your own outcomes and yet yeah Jeff. I don't know if you've seen the have you seen the Vietnam Kim Burns documentary now that I've seen baseball civil war. I'm not saying that it's amazing. It will it. It is the guy we're talking about John. Lewis Graham was a A Marine who got shot three times Vietnam and he was he was like basically basically the the spotlight in the Ken Burns Documentary and then we cut. Yeah and then come to find out. He lives twenty miles south of I mean he's just he's a fantastically interesting man. I mean he came back in a really involved in the antiwar movement here Kansas rant and like I said and just his perspective on on life and especially considering everything he's been through it just it's absolutely phenomenal and he's just like I said he's a He's one of those people. I think everybody can can learn something from it. I I know he's taught me a lot. Yeah we we've asked the point for us as Veterans Ri- light. It's the process even the process of learning. It doesn't end like we're talking about. Hey Craig training programs great process a compliment process of selection judge. When you get out now what are we have we got either? You'RE GONNA complain or you have a process that enriches yours and other people's lives. Ask The vast I AH I. I'm trying to catch that freshman class because yes I'm talking training. I'm talking personal responsibility. That ability that demand in the team's and then the extension is family. Life right creates a much bigger picture than training but again my my pedestal might opet is away well and if you can get that down though you know what I'm saying if you can lock down your physical fitness you can lock down these programs and one completing your programs are not easy man. I mean they're not they're not. They're not they're not easy programs. They're fucking hard. Yeah of course there. Yeah and the ESA es La Bud vase like Jesus Christ. Yeah they're hard programs man and one. I don't what you you gotta be honest with yourself on your programs to this. Real Accountability needs to to get the best outcome. Yeah you have to be honest with yourself but to if if you crush one of your programs man and you can head into like when I tell people the goal for any type of selection process is when you get off that plane or when you get off that a bus or you get out of that car whatever if you get out of that and you say man all my bills are paid. I'm physically fit. I'm mentally doing okay. I got a book with me to read in my spare time. I'm good to go you can if you can get off. Whatever you're doing with just having a regular other day you're usually going to be set up for success and I think that's why you're programs are so important because it's just like I said I? It's it's really cool. One one the obviously the programs are built the way they are but to You're one of the few people I know who live feeds and actually I was so impressed with you. You would like get up and actually like doc show different like actually showed differ. Move One where you're talking about grip yours ripping out here griffin here griffin here in actual bio mechanics of it and I was like man that that forty five seconds speech right. There was a ninety minute lecture somewhere along the way and people don't they don't grasp that. Yeah and that's why I think that's I think that's that's what's happening right now is that there's parts that statement Einstein said that if you can't take your complex subject explain it in a short time right and and then there's much more to that right lanes it's just not that simple but the point is is that with a real understanding something like 'cause people asking a cow. Hey how can I audit audits. Someone's knowledge or the key of e an athletic trainer strength and it's there's nothing I can really say because basically interrogation arrogation point yet. I don't mean that may be asked to validate someone's knowledge base and I think that's what my goal is. My primary goal is to not oversimplify but put in a context. That people can actually learn in Nashville. I say like instagram whatever. It is as far as I'm concerned. That's a cost among people to approach it that way like I'm not a person -ality certain lot not people do emulate not my intention when I do I appreciate. It's very flattering number. One but the best thing I can offer this world is knowledge college in its sinologist and gives me by people who really cared for me cared about me unchain enough about me to give me to help me to share with we are at the end of the day whether we're parents or teachers like we're teaching our kids we're teaching our friends Example on and that's the thing is no one's asking anyone being angel right. Metaphorically guess is that Dan Might WanNa we're world. We live in when we change our mind. Because because we've made wrong we become we call a hypocrite. I changed my mind because I admit I was wrong. Right and I've got evolved and I think that that's what's what is as there's some really simple things bio mechanics. I say simple. But there's truth. There's absolute truths K.. And I'm trying to share those the truce in a way that people can go Like let me think about that. Let me apply. Oh Yeah Big Goal is to apply these things people can artiste. Even you know I I completely agree. I think that breaking it down that the whole kiss method keeping it Simple stupid. I don't know that I fully agree with that portion that were but the actual actual just telling it like it is I i. I appreciate your live feeds so much. I can't even find the words actually. It's just that it's dude I'm telling you it's that's the future. I think you're right like I actually like the analogy of turning life eat in the classroom and Jeff and I. That's kind of how we do the podcast we. We don't like I try to tell people man like we don't make any financial gains really office. We don't do it for any type of clout like Jeff's barely on fucking social media. We we actually care man we we get together like five. Am and have coffee and start talking about stuff usually wore history or books or something like that some kind of philosophy and molded into this man and a lot of the feedback. We get from people is just. It's teaching it's just teaching methods. There's nothing there's nothing else to. Its US talking to somebody who's putting knowledge college down. We're trying to share the little bit of knowledge that we have accumulated in life. And that's really it and so I just for one when I appreciate you coming on today man to be honest with you absolutely and you know I I I love your whole philosophy on not only oh in the pro on teaching just in general and again it goes back to your idea about process and it's just a it's fabulous to hear it's one of those things like ethic sometimes. Sounds like we kind of intuitively understand it. But you countries you have a really amazing way of like Thomson Not dumbing anything down but explain waiting something. That's very complex and nuanced in just a very easy to understand way and that's a real gift And like I said we're obviously so thankful that you on this morning we personally really impressive what you do so would you like to To wrap up anything we missed or if not does the your social media we we get out of here on with your day. Yeah no I like all all kinds of first of all thank you both also because I think that data whether the population that we'd impacted small large there is an impact already right. I think that that's the focus yards. It's like they say oh. You're you're an overnight success. Yeah I've been doing this for almost twenty five year. She's GonNa well overnight success but you graduated in. Oh two you know. And it's like that doc it even before that I was just like a full nerve is your I and I think that that is something that gives me semi grounded at time my better half Catherine as much better job of keeping my ego deflated which is super important to me is just you can't can always make about yourself. Even if you are the example right somebody else has got to come in. And you gotTA share right. After so from that regard cartoon comes with ovulation people may or may not be listening. No I don't believe in coincidence and I don't believe that failure comes without real reward and that reward is never never on the short side I can never comes in are never never the real reward never comes in that front side of that time wrong and I just I really am hopeful for my future. Sure in helping people. That's not because I have this concise like I've got to achieve a goal right just know the process that I'm that I'm in developed in. This doesn't just isn't just about me process. I know that I'm working within is correct right now that it's the same thing like when I prep for buds. How did I know I had the conference planning no prepared writing? I know that the people that are taking on the information are better off orange. Not because I say so but because fundamental laws is Yala Jin physics. A new national That's why I'm so very confident when I do not. Why don't get nervous speaking in front of a crowd right because I don't tell stores right I tie speak I speak in close? I can't factual information. I'm I'm just sharing information at said I'm not telling stories right. Not Religion the wheel here now now. I'm just trying to kind of shed a little light arms. Yeah put Clinton put some new tires on it. You Bet Hassle. Yeah you know as far Social Media Jeff. CSC as on my website is performance first US S. stocks on the program. Sit in resigned videos. Oh Jeffrey Mann before before you go talk about the launch of the website man. I totally. I totally admitted that connotes again. That's why I'm not about the business. Yeah Man Yeah That's the avenue riots last a livelihood but we have created. I said I keep saying we because my my better half is really Katherine is is the real catalyst analyst for my success Last couple of months someone that can I love deeply. That can hold my attention to knock the shit out of me when I needed right and also on the business side. What she does is tree? She has envisioning created this really fantastic video portion that I guess that is the kind of the go between between. Hey here's my written programs. Here's the Ersan righties videos or a place where you can get further instruction with with breath with little to no fat like in a sense. It's not a chance for me to stand in front of a crowd and be whatever like here's the bicep curl law brighter the squat and lie. Here's the Real Y. I think it resides on these videotapes. And I'm very very proud of them but I know that these videos are just steppingstone to Haase's effecting a far more amazing human beings that are willing to sacrifice their time their life The things they believe in love. So that's why I do what I do and jaw. I'm looking for the future because I really like. How people I I feel like? We're in the same entrepreneurs absolutely jabber. Let's get off here. I appreciate it. Thank you happy birthday for us for a few days. We appreciate that and any anything we can do to help you out. Just let him snow. And I'll keep we'll keep pushing people that way man. I really appreciate it. Appreciate all. Talk Sir all right thank you guys. Thank you so much for coming on today like I said Checkout Jeff Nichols Jeff's Yes yes on instagram and performance I Online from Jeff Tonight. We really appreciate it with Jeff. Jeff Jeff Jeff Jeff Jeff and I jeff squared and I. We really appreciate it every day. uh-huh.
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Episode 264 | The History of Disney & Sports
"Steve hockey fans. It is with deepest pride and writers. Played you that we welcome you tonight to pond. We invite to relax and take your seat as the city of anaheim the national hockey league. I commend mighty ducks. Celebrate iraq each sports and band. Excuse welcome to detour to never land where you are the author of your own disney story. There's a lot of satisfaction in developing ideas into realities. Indie can find magic in your everyday life. If you do what you really want to do you feel like you're playing. How can you write your first chapter today. Greens we figure out where we want to go is how we get there. We're your hosts. Brendan and catherine. Welcome back to detour. Today's episode number two hundred and sixty four that monstrosity. That you heard at the beginning of this episode was the inaugural game of the mighty ducks of anaheim in nineteen ninety-three. Just one of the few topics that we're going to discuss in today's episode the fluorine yvonne de want to mention our travel agent sponsor for today's episode hannah little with creating magic vacations if you're looking to go to disney at anytime head over to little bit of disney dot com there. You'll find a short form. You can fill it out. Tell her what you want to do where you wanna go all of the details that you know about your trip and she'll be sure to hook you up and help you get your trip planned. Remember you don't have to pay for this. It's completely free. Which is everybody's favorite price and your trip is going to be easier and better because of it. It's really just a win win so again. That's a little bit of disney dot com. We'll also put the link to everything in the show notes and tell her t toward neverland's you so march. Thirty first is the thirty second anniversary of the walt disney company purchasing the anaheim angels. We thought this accompanied with the new release of the new series on disney. Plus of the resurgence of the mighty ducks is would be a great opportunity to discuss a topic that we haven't really seen discussed too much within the community. And that is this relationship. And the business endeavors between the walt disney company and sports and it is a wild twisting turning story it basically has the nineties written all over it which is something that we love and yes that rendition that you heard at the very beginning of this was a version of be our guest that was changed to bring hockey into the city of anaheim. Well i was gonna say we. You could just stop listening right now. And i think you would get. The gist of disney's relationship with sports is quite interesting indefinitely. Not the same relationship with sports that you know other venues would have you know. You're not usually going to sporting events in here be our guest in. I don't know in any capacity so lumiere was on the ice. For this event and they had ice dancers. They unveiled a mascot. At this time they had a rock ballad that they played at one point as well is basically a fever. Dream definitely go watch that out. Just search for the nineteen ninety three inaugural ceremony for the index. That's just one of the topics that we're going to discuss today. We're going to discuss the california and los angeles angels as well but all of this starts with walt. And i think you kind of have to understand waltz relationship with sports in order to understand how the company got into this very unique and strange position in the ninety s above. All what we know about wall is that he was a fan of america's favorite pastime which is baseball and we did look everywhere mostly brendan. He was very into finding the answer. We don't know for sure who was a fan of it's not documented. We can't really find. It obviously have had a favorite team. I mean come on you would think so. And so the teams that would come to mind would be since. He spent so much of his childhood and marceline missouri and in kansas city and then some in chicago both of his birthplace and in the he moved there during his late teenage years as well the two teams that come to mind would be the saint louis cardinals or the chicago cubs now us being cardinals fans. We like to believe that wall was a cardinals fan as well but you never know who he was. A fan of some of. You might be saying. We'll could it be the kansas city royals. Kansas city royals came much later in time in nineteen sixty nine so what would have been. He would been gone gone at that point but by the time baseball and sports or even come into kansas city. You would've been in california before they were even having those discussions but he could have been a cubs. Fan would have been a tough pill for me to swallow. I know that's not documented. I know we have some cubs fans who listen i. It's it's tough for me really struggling to get through that but all of this leads up into the really. The only documented allegiance was to the team that his company would eventually own and that is california angels at the time. Eventually the los angeles angels eventually the los angeles angels of anaheim angels. If you're familiar of baseball they've had many different names but it's all rooted in this friendship that he had with gene autry the same gene autry. Who's the cowboy singer songwriter. The actor westerner that gene autry was the fifth the first owner of the angels and because he and walt were friends. This was late and walt's life he would go sometimes to see the angels play now. This time they were in los angeles for a period of years. They were sharing stadium with the los angeles dodgers. That's basically what you need to know is that it's really poetic. How this came around where his friendship with. Jean came back around to his company eventually buying it from gene. But we're going to a little bit later. Yeah absolutely said more than anything. We know that wall loved using baseball as a medium for storytelling. So it set the backdrop for some different stories that he would want to tell We know that he was an american patriot. And there's nothing more american than of course baseball. So we know that pretty early in his career in the nineteen thirties. When they had the studio on hyperion drive in los angeles there was a field nearby where he and the other employees would go and play friendly. Pickup games of baseball and twenty three actually has some pictures of walt hitting. Got good form man could smack it and when they moved to burbank in nineteen forty to the studio in the lot that we know now he actually made it a point that they built an athletic field for the employees and he even had these special disney baseball jerseys made and they look they look legitimate there with their cotton. i'm sure there were hot as hades. And they were what they would go out and wear when they're playing pickup games. And it's not. I didn't see any pictures of walt wearing one. But supposedly he did sometimes go out there and play with them but you have to remember in nineteen forties. He's he's in his forties at that point and leading into the fifties skin a little bit old for baseball but especially smoking so much but who knows. That is seriously so cool. I mean because you think about today like workplaces offices churches you know they all have like rec league teams and everything. And it's just kinda funny again to think about the walt disney company and think. Oh my god. They had a baseball team. That walt was part of or that he started or encouraged or whatever it might be. But that's just fun to think about. Well yeah talk about being on the edge of like fringe benefits for working in corporate america. Do you probably wouldn't find too many multi million dollar companies. Who are offering you know a baseball field on their campus. For you to go play in your downtime and so i think it just further solidifies. Is that yeah. I'm sure he watched footba. I'm sure he may be watched other things as well but it's baseball was his thing and you can also see that translated over to the screen so we all know the goofy shorts that you've seen of how to a football or something out of off how to fish the perfect cast and there's one that is how to play baseball as well from nineteen forty two and then later in nineteen forty six. He did casey at the bat as well. So you can tell more than anything baseball. Was this connection to america. That he used to tell some of his stories and he also had some really great quotes about baseball as well that i wanted to share with units a quote that i'd never heard of before he said baseball is a great teacher. An important secret of living the giving and taking in the group the development of qualities and behavior that will stand us in good steed through life in pursuit of both personal and professional. So it's really cool that he used baseball as a metaphor. Or as a comparison to these overarching. How you have to work with people on how you have to use these tools to reach the goals that you wanna region your personal and professional life. I mean and ultimately what we can see from. This is that sports were always of the company you know it was something that walt enjoyed. As a pastime he was able to make that connection between sports or in this case baseball. And like you just said the workplace and the community that could be created there and they used sporting events a lotta times as marketing platforms. Which makes sense. I mean we still see that today. All the time with lots of different forms of advertisements and things like that but then later or we're about to get into is that sports also became business opportunities and we know that we know that the disney company never passes up a good business opportunity. So this leads us into the story of the mighty ducks of anaheim. So this is over. Thirty years. After the death of walt read do think it was important to understand how sports were important to he. At least understood how it was ingrained into the fabric of his audience. More than anything and so to understand. How this convergence of chaos that the mighty ducks of anaheim became to be. We need to understand the state of hockey in the state of the walt disney company in the early nineties so narrowly nineties. Hockey was booming in the us. It already of course been solidified that it was a pastime in parts of the us. You know looking at new york and boston and places like that detroit in chicago and then of course canada's well in montreal and toronto and ottawa. They had this deep hockey history. But when you looked into the us it was very you. Know centered around these cold weather areas. Where the kids grew up playing hockey and it was only available to places like minnesota boston and chicago where that was a sport that kids played. But you come to the nineties. And it's the fastest sport growing year over year as far as putting new fans in the seats and on the tv watching this sport and the idea of secondary markets outside of the boston's and the new york's and the philadelphia's started to become really alluring to the national hockey league now of course we love that being fans of the predators of that this time period opened. The door replaces like nashville to eventually get a team. While i was gonna say the same thing this is important to anyone who is a fan of hockey outside of those main markets. Do you think about like the tampa bay. Lightning that would not have been possible without this expansion and then of course the anaheim ducks as well. You know moving them into these areas of the country where you know. Florida obviously doesn't see snow. You know what business do they have. Being here would be argument that a lot of people would have but clearly. There is one which is super cool. So there's a couple of significant events that take place to lead to hockey kind of really inserting itself into these non traditional markets. One being thing is it quote unquote the trade. And so this was a trade that sent wayne gretzky to los angeles kings wayne gretzky. If you're not familiar. V greatest hockey player of all time by standards he comes to los angeles like that is unheard of of a player of that caliber coming somewhere previously. He had played in new york he played in edmonton these very traditional. You know deep rooted hockey places and then he comes to the place of palm trees like. It's a wild time that happens in the late. Eighties and then nhl introduces the san jose sharks in the tampa bay lightning which are both almost immediate successes and they catch on in their cities at a very very rapid pace. We also saw same thing in Las vegas with the knights just recently where it just kind of exploded and they were awesome from the very beginning which is also unheard-of nhl side on disney side. What is going on course. Michael eisner is the ceo. At this time they have this movie. That's relatively low budget. It's a sports movie which disney has done for years and years sports movies where always a kind of a dependable thing that they could lean back on. They're not going to lose money. They're not gonna kill it but they like to make them and it it. They have an audience that expects that out of them so they make this movie called the mighty ducks. The critics don't like it. they make fun of it. They think it is not a good representation of youth hockey and it's not very well received by the critics. It gets into mainly young boys. Get to watch this and overnight elementary and middle schools and high schools. Kids are doing the flying v in their schools or in their backyards playing roller hockey or real hockey or maybe. They're not even playing hockey at all. They're just doing a flying v and then they're also going quack quack quack quack and it becomes like an overnight sensation and so if you view this for michael eisner's perspective. The nhl is booming. And it's in his city where he lives with his sons and understand him. He lived in new york. He grew up in new york. He was a new york rangers. Fan living there. He hits gold with a movie about youth hockey both of his sons play hockey in southern california and start playing on the travel teams because they brought that over from their new york routes and he has been he was friends with the owner of the los angeles kings. Who's making money hand over fist. Because he had wayne gretzky playing for him and so he was actually approached a couple of times before the mighty ducks movie. Hit about getting into this. Nhl business and seeing the box office hit that he had was what convinced him. I need in on this. Which is so funny. Because it's almost like you know. It was like a nineties nineties viral sensation and people just love to hang like hung onto it clearly since they just redid it. You know in the first episode. This new series just came out. What was it like on friday. You know it's something that people still have deep rooted ties to in a love for and it's funny to kind of watch. All of this play out. I do have to think those since he talked about his history and his love for hockey. Just a personal love. I mean do you think it was some someone like self. I don't know what the right word is like a childhood dream. Yeah i mean he's he's michael eisner. He has the opportunity and the funds really to do these things i mean. It has to be some sort of sports fans dream. You know to just have something like this almost fall into your lap. Yeah and from in the. He's sitting there. He's an he's sitting in burbank. But he spends a lot of time in anaheim as well and he's looking around the city of anaheim. This city just built a brand stadium. That's empty and they're trying to recruit a professional team so anaheim actually built. What is now the honda center previously known as the pond which was way cooler was pretty cool name for For a hockey rink adopted that one. The ducks came but they ha- they originally built it to try to drown. Nba team and they were unsuccessful in that endeavor. So if you're familiar with any sort of professional sports expansion the biggest thing that these leagues look for is. Do you have support from your city. And do you have a stadium already because we don't want to wait on you to build a stadium. Eisner both of those. He's got the support of the city because anaheim wants to continue bringing more people into proved that they're not just a place for theme parks. Although let's be real they totally are and then they have the stadium that is available and they of course quickly reached a deal that hey if you get a hockey team to come here this is your home. And so for a relatively low cost of fifty million dollars which to the walt. Disney company is not much even in the nineties. That is not much at all for what they're doing. They approached the nhl. They put in their application for an expansion team. And of course they get in nineteen ninety three. So it's really crazy that this is how they get it but you also afghanistan initiation from eisner's perspective. This is a marketing machine. And that's how it was. Viewed by the walt disney company was the mighty ducks are going to be a franchise with us and of course eventually became that we had d. Two we had two three. We had the animated series as well and so it was a they. Were feeding each other. Almost where you get to see the mighty ducks and real life and you could see you know world class -letes on the same colors charlie conway for in the movies and now they're wearing them out on the ice and so go see our movies by the merchandise. Come to anaheim and watch a game and it was it. Seemed like they had struggle. Well it is quite genius because if you think about like a new sports team you know you kind of have to pull people away from the team that they already love which can be hard to do. You know you're trying to sway them to root for this new team but in the way that this came a bow because so many kids were already fans up the mighty ducks. i mean. It was like an automatic fan base. And it's like you know. These kids asked to go to a game where parents take him. They want the jersey. They want the plush. Want this that or whatever else. Because that's what they saw in the movie and now like you said they're seeing it in real life. And i mean it's just like money money engine i guess and the and they view it the same way of. Hey billy wants to drive in from the middle of texas to watch the mighty ducks in anaheim. Come to disneyland. It's right year. Why wouldn't you make a weekend out of it yet. So they viewed it as that. This is a giant marketing tool both for the parks. Both for our movies in everything feeds back into itself and not even to mention they owned a new. They just bought a tv station in los angeles that they set up to start broadcasting their games so they have the full setup of everything that you would need to be wildly successful just like put in their lap. They they made it possible but they like said they had all the pieces but you also have to understand that using a sports team as a marketing mechanism was completely unheard of. There's no case studies on this. There's no you of this. When you go to marketing school this was almost completely thought of from internally in the walt disney company and i think eisner is credited with a lot of it of coming up with this idea which when you really think about it is insane like i. Can you imagine the first time he pitched this to someone is like we have a fictional youth hockey team in our movies. Let's make a real one you know. How can how do you pitch that. To the board of directors. He must have been very passionate and he must have been able to prove somehow or predict or make some sort of super cool graph to show everything that he was planning. I mean everything that we just laid out with how it could all be connected with each other. He must have been able to foresee that. Because i feel like unless he would have been able to lay out all those pieces. Like you're right. How would you get approval for this. I mean because even though we said fifty million dollars might not have been much like you have to assume that. There's something else that they could have done with that money. Besides like oh. Hey let's let eisner just make a hockey team as a hobby you. I wonder if that's what people thought like. This is his hobby. I have a little bit of a person's story of how you know. I'm i nine thousand nine hundred dollars one year old but paul korea and i don't wanna get tune into specifics of players and you know too many things like that because i think we'll lose a lot of people but paul kariya was the face of the mighty ducks of anaheim for. He was their first draft pick. He was there guy for the longest time and he actually was onscreen in d. Two they got him on set and he had a couple of lines. He i think he was. A commentator is what he played in d. two later in poultry careers career. He comes in place for the nashville predators. So i'm probably nine ten or eleven years old by the time he makes his brothers. And i can't explain my excitement of knowing that somebody that was in the mighty ducks movies was playing for my favorite team. I was going to get to see him. In real life mine just blown. My mind was blown but it was even the same way when the ducks would come visit. And play in nashville. It was every every boy is there just with the widest is of. Oh my god. It's the mighty ducks. How do you feel now. On the ducks. Come to nashville. Predators and the ducks have become heated rivals. Quite a few playoff series in a row. Have really raddatz. The wrong way in the luster off of the ducks coming to town now. It's a little bit more but disney doesn't own any more so thank acceptable. We can feel that way and they're no longer than mighty ducks but you would think maybe if they're just being viewed as a marketing machine that the ducks would not have performed very well on the ice which was not entirely true. Quite interesting now. They did not win a stanley cup. During the time that disney owned them but just in their fourth year of existence they made it into the playoffs and then in their ten th year of existence in two thousand three. They made it to the stanley cup finals. Which again i can tell you as predators fan and a fan of an expansion team you know. We gotta take the vegas nights out of this. Because they're not they're the anomaly. It took the predators from nineteen ninety eight to two thousand seventeen to make the finals most twenty years to do it and the ducks did it in ten which was pretty impressive so they made it to the finals in two thousand three. Two thousand four is when the nhl lockout happens so the players association and the league cannot come to an agreement on the labor costs and they are not able to play that full season or they don't play anything at all. So that's when this whole experiment starts to unravel after they lose in two thousand and three paul kariya anti mussa lonnie who were their best to players. Both leave the team team who actually left a year earlier. But at the end of the doesn't three they lose both of the faces of their franchise. They're bad in two thousand three two thousand four season the year after that in two thousand four. Two thousand five. They don't play at all. And so at this point. I think disney kind of saw the writing on the wall of that the franchises the the movies are over. They've all been successful up until d three. They've been successful. Maybe this is our exit point. And that's what they did. So it's interesting of how this is timed. Because they sold the team in two thousand and five for seventy five million so just on paper a twenty five million dollar profit however reportedly. They lost money pretty much the entire time that they were running the team which seem surprising with like the merchandise and everything you know obviously a sports team to be able to play all the pale the players and the coaches and upkeep the arena and everything. I'm sure it's very expensive. But i definitely would have expected them to make money and they did early on in one thousand nine hundred and in nineteen ninety five. They lead the entire. Nhl merchandise sales because every little boy and little girl who had watched the movies wanted this real life hockey sweater. Or they wanted the plush doll or you know they wanted all of these things that they are now getting to see from the movie screen and in real life. And i think it just kind of slowly tapered off and they started to lose money. They almost won the finals in two thousand three and they almost won the stanley cup but they lost to the devils then their player start leaving and it was kind of their time to exit because eisner steps down. They sell them the same year. Do you think that's a coincidence that you think that's like iger first moves was get rid of this thing. It almost seems like it just had to be you know. I don't think there's any coincidence. I definitely think there is a correlation because like we mentioned earlier this was almost like eisner's like thing key was the hockey fan. This was his idea he pitched it got it done all of the above so when he was gone. There probably wasn't a single other person is passionate about it as him. I could be wrong. But i have to imagine that he was the one like pushing this in hyping it up and like the cheerleader for this a little bit of salt in the wound so the team is bought from them. The couple that buys them the first act is to drop mighty from their name so they just become the anaheim ducks they change their color scheme. So there no longer are a replica of the mighty that we saw on the tv and then they win the stanley cup in two thousand seven. I mean their star players left again. We don't need to get into like the thick of it but was it just like a major overhaul. You think that did it or just like a new boost of energy. They were not necessarily supposed to win it in two thousand seven. I mean they were very much like a team that got hot at the right time. That want it. So it's not like they had like star studded lineup up and down. That was just a juggernaut. It was right place right time. Lightning in a bottle. Could they have the most heart brendan i. I see but that pretty much grabs the story of the mighty ducks of anaheim. But again that inaugural game you have to go watch that opening ceremony. You get lumiere you get this rendition of be our guest. They had this other song that they played called. Rock the pond which was like a high like it was like a ballot. Almost i mean it was all quite clever and very much disney. You know if you were there that opening night and he knew that this was a team owned by disney. You probably expected something like this so they definitely delivered on the disney aspect of everything at least in that very first song which to me is where it counts so part. Two of this episode is about the anaheim angels and a lot of this will all of this happened concurrently within that same time period that we just talked about so they owned the ducks from nineteen ninety. Three two thousand and five and angels all happens within that time period so they own them for a much shorter time period so this brings us back to gene autry so we talked about at the beginning. He and walt were friends and of course they probably would have known each other professionally for a long time but then later in waltz life is when their friendship really you know. They spending started spending more time together and so he was the original owner of the angels in nineteen sixty one previously. The angels were a minor league team and it was a minor league franchise and it was actually the owner of the dodgers. If you're not familiar with the other team in los angeles very historic franchise he actually owned the rights to the angels so gene autry had to go to the dodgers to the team. He was about to be directly competing with even though they're in different leagues. And by this room. And i think the number that he bought was four three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. June nineteen sixty one is a pretty hefty cash. And we don't necessarily need to talk about the early history of the angels but essentially what you would need to know his. They weren't great. They weren't awful every year. They were all full some years but they weren't great. There were just a team that could never really get over the hump to get to the world series or to win anything really significant. They want a couple of division titles but they never really got to the world series but when gene got the team in the sixties they they bounced around quite a bit so they played in some different stadiums and at one point they shared a stadium with the dodgers and it was funny. Because it's known as dodger stadium and it's pretty much always been known as dodger stadium. That's where the dodgers play win. The angels played their same building. Had call it chevenez ravine which is like an alternate name for like dodgers fans will sometimes call at shabazz. Ravine has just interesting. That the angels like. Obviously that would be weird to see live. You know california. Angels playing tonight from dodger stadium. I mean they needed their own identity. So it makes sense but wall would attend these games. And sometimes he would even sit in gene autry. He's owner sweet. Sometimes he would sit by himself and he didn't attend a ton of games. But if you remember that that wall always loved baseball and now one of his buddies owns a team so it would make sense that he would be attracted to the angels. of course. He had no idea that his company thirty years later would become owners of it so autry held them pre held him the entire time for thirty six years. Up until nineteen ninety-five when disney. I made a twenty five percent investment into the company. At this time they become managing owners. Meaning they are making the day to day decisions on personnel and how much money to put into it contracts and things like that. They did that for a few years. And they worked out the kinks to make a final deal in nineteen ninety nine where they bought the entire team for hundred and fifty million dollars so much more than the mighty ducks not much three times more three times more six years later after this obviously the market for baseball is much higher than the market for hockey. But now will these teams. They're close to the billion dollar range. I mean sports have exploded hundred and fifty million dollars. It's not completely unreasonable But gene autry did pass away shortly after this and the disneys in charge now and one of the first things that they do is. They invested a ton of money into the angels and into their stadium. The wheels were already set in motion when gene autry was the owner but they were in the process of moving from los angeles to anaheim specifically and so they got this stadium. I called at anaheim stadium. Very originally and disney put it was about one hundred and eighteen million dollar investment into the relocation in into the stadium in exchange. What they got was the city of anaheim pitched in thirty million dollars as well in exchange for anaheim to be used both in the team name and in the stadium name so that is how they became the anaheim angels for that period of time but of course since then anaheim has been dropped like you mentioned at the very beginning. They've gone through. Lots of names. More than i can or want to keep up with but now they're just a loss angeles angels again and there's not too many like juicy details. There's not too many like crazy things that happen like the ducks. That's a very weird and wild story that like you. You almost wouldn't believe that happened but the question still poses. Why was eisner interested. In this like he may be had a relationship with gene. Autry probably certainly wasn't to the level. That walt at Obviously michael is did not meet walt disney. And so it's it's just a question of. Why did he do this. And you kind of get two different answers. The official answer says a will market research said that this was a good investment. And this would bring people you know. They saw the opportunity of the moving from los angeles to anaheim and they wanted a piece of this because it would bring more people to their city. Which ironically is exactly what my family did so my family growing up we would spend our summers and Spring breaks going on trips around the country to try to see as many baseball stadiums. We could so we did a southern california trip where we went to san diego to see the padres we went to los angeles to see the dodgers and then we went to anaheim to see the angels and the same thing we mentioned before we said. Well we're in anaheim we. As in anaheim we have to go to disneyland. It just makes so we actually stayed at the paradise pier hotel in two thousand two the year that they won the world series and we drove over to anaheim stadium while staying on disneyland property. I did not know that now. And we've been to paradise pier before together and you never mentioned that. We had a theme park view. That was the first year of disney california adventure as well. I don't remember any of it. I honestly think we maybe spend a couple of hours in there like not much at all. Your main priority would have been baseball. Our main priority was baseball and then disneyland. I mean yeah. I mean that was the goal was to go to disneyland. So that's kind of one answer. Is that is marketing research it you know. The data led them to this decision that they thought it was a good investment. The other answer you kind of here and you know if you know a little bit about eisner i think this one makes a little bit of sense of that just happened a couple years before. He and walt disney company released a remake of the film angels in the outfield in nineteen ninety four which is again kind of similar to mighty ducks. It did better than they expected it to. Now i personally didn't know angels in. The outfield was a remake. I thought that nineteen ninety-four was the original one which i'm now looking at your face. I don't think you've ever seen it. Have you know now. Not many sports movies were played in your house where they know unless it involved princesses or singing animated characters. We probably didn't watch it. We're always dogs. Yeah you're probably all the earbuds it's still that's still sports movie. Little sketchy and so if you're familiar with angels in the outfield that team. That is focused in that. Nineteen ninety. four remake is the california angels so one could deduce the. He had this same thinking that he did with the mighty ducks of that. Hey i've got this movie property. This thing exist in real life. They can benefit each other. Why wouldn't i just do it. So i do you buy into that do do you think it's just. It was just a good investment. I mean i have to buy into both of those theories. Because i can't see again. It is an investment. So he would even if his real intent was just like. I want to connect the two franchises. He would still have to have some sort of research. I feel like to get it done. You know again. How do you get a hundred and fifty million dollars plus hundred eighteen million dollars to put into the stadium. You know now. Those numbers are really adding up. How do you get that much money by just saying. Oh well we made a movie and it makes sense right we. We made the movie. Like i don't think even though disney might have a lot of money i don't know if anyone would just like green light that you know so they did have more success than the ducks they did win. A world series in two thousand and two but word again where it started to come out is that they were losing a ton of money and so reportedly during disney's time owning it from nineteen ninety nine fully until two thousand and two very short period of time. They lost over. One hundred million dollars in the franchise. I mean you think it's just because they put so much into it. Initially i mean is that why because why would anyone own sports teams then well out of make a ton of money but so when you think that both of these that are owned by disney would make just boo coups of money. I don't know the exact answers i mean. I can theorize all day. I mean anaheim is going to get a fraction and it doesn't have any of the story of the competing teams in los angeles. The angels are never ever going to out. Earn the dodgers or even the padres for that matter. I don't think because they are storied. You know much deeper franchises. Even though they've been around since the sixties but even then the dodgers have been around before that they were in brooklyn before and they just have a lot more story. If you look at hockey the los angeles kings very storied franchise even though they're in los angeles but they play in the staple center for goodness sake. You know one of the premier places on the planet to play a sporting event. And i just think it's a tough sell especially how bad traffic has got in anaheim on that interstate that connects anaheim and l. a. Who's gonna drive out there. Not me i driving to lax gave. That's it sounds story now again. That's just my opinion. That's just my theory. I'm sure there's many many other things at work here. And i mean we're fans of the predators. The predator never going to out earn many teams in the league just because the smaller market. It doesn't have the historical backing that someone else would but they still do pretty well for themselves east to turn it around but when they sold it they sold it for one hundred. Eighty three million so a little bit of a prophet there. They didn't make up all their losses. Of course supposedly. They tried to strike while the iron was hot and right after they won the world series. They put it on the market and they got a low ball offer of one hundred and forty million dollars. So that's how people were valuing it from the outside even after they had just won a world series yup and so they waited one more year and went to one hundred eighty three million where they decided to let go. Of course we never got well. we did. And angels in the outfield to. I think i think that exists. I don't. I honestly could not tell you so. That kind of leads us to just espn in general. You know thinking about disney and sports past waltz love for baseball the anaheim ducks and the mighty ducks. Whatever ruled went winter. Some name changes okay. It's understand these name changes that i can't keep up with we land on espn which is almost like the next wave of their marketing plans. If we want to think about it that way so espn debuted on september seventh in nineteen seventy nine and they struggled right out of the gate pretty much in the early years so in nineteen eighty one year after they had launched. They needed money. Anheuser-busch invested one million dollars and then again in nineteen ninety-one. They invested five million dollars with the idea that people who are watching sports we're probably also partaking in drinking their beverages which is probably pretty accurate rings true. I can attest that is true. And you know eventually that ended up being a good investment there vice president Said that it was the best investment that anheuser busch had ever made because it ended up in nineteen ninety-three he was listed like the sixth most powerful figure in sports since he was one of those early investors. And really when. I hear that. I mentioned all those things because it. It's an opportunity to make money pretty much and like we said earlier. Disney's not going to pass up opportunities to invest or to take advantage of new opportunities to acquire things that look like they're going to be successful and to me. That kind of how the door was opened is just that there was a potential to make some money does. He's not against. They are very pro making funny so disney enters into the scene in around the mid nineteen ninety-five time period where they decided that they were going to purchase capital cities. Abc for nineteen billion dollars. And that's important because espn was owned by both of those companies jointly so again. They were struggling. They needed people to invest in them. And those were the company's two of the companies that were investors and that's been walt disney acquired eighty percent of espn the next sort of domino to fall and this story is that they used to have espn and abc sports basically as two separate entities and they would both broadcast on their own channel. And obviously at that point it would seem pretty repetitive. they're covering the same type of content and so there's really no reason to have them both existing at the same time so that's when they started this process of merging. Espn abc sports and basically moving the abc sports operations over to espn to make that the main hub for all of their sports content even though technically espn and abc are separate. They are their own entities. They are combining content ultimately. What this means is that in two thousand so after owning. Espn for a little while. Things are looking very good which is kind of a turn when we think about walt disney and sports because like we just mentioned both their other ventures were not super profitable in two thousand. It looks like espn is going to be quite profitable Eisner was praised and he as espn as being class of its own and you know the worldwide leader in sports all those things that you typically think about when you think espn and they contributed two point six billion in revenue and a hundred and twenty four million in operating income. Espn worth about twenty billion or twenty five percent of disney's market value. Which is pretty crazy. It is insane to think about that. It grew to that space and foreshadowing. I mean it's it is so miniscule. Now i mean they were reaching eighty two million households more audiences and probably new audiences. This was something different for disney. They weren't movies or cartoons animated features. You know now. They were reaching new audiences and that was profitable to disney Ultimately in february two thousand eight is said that. Espn was probably worth more than forty percent of disney's entire value which was just based on cash flow in the industry. You know this may be my but personally as a disney shareholder. My gosh. i wish they had sold it right then. Espn this high rid of it. Sell high and figure something else out because lou. This is a much different story nowadays. Yeah i mean it was just crazy so this was kind of like the big boom but of course this happened in two thousand eight like brennan just mentioned it's not necessarily the same anymore with different streaming services but at this time they were doing better than fox sport. Thirteen better than cnn In something that i read they were doing like four times better than mtv davor. Just outshining everyone. And i don't know what exactly it was. That made it happen. But this is kind of where when you think about walt disney and sports. This is truly where they struck gold. This is where they did the best and it's interesting because then it bled over into something that we love so much and obviously you're probably familiar with then it starts to bleed over into the parks and specifically it bleeds into disneyland a little bit with espn zone there which they did have for a time period correct i honestly i don't know i really thought they did. And then when it came out of my mouth now. I'm thinking that the second guessing it but they do have. Espn zone at the boardwalk which we can have a discussion on that in a second. If you like. Within the biggest investment into the walt disney world resort became the espn wide world of sports complex. And to me this speaks volumes because this is the athletic complex. Still here in walt disneyworld. They built for when a million dollars. It's two hundred and twenty acres. That has nine different venues and it was previously just wetlands. Which again you know. It's it makes sense but we in that number one hundred million they put into building. He's sports complex. You know they must have seen again some serious potential for this. It was opened in march nineteen ninety seven and it was opened with what we were to bring this full circle. What makes the most sense a baseball game. So it opened with an exhibition. Baseball game between the atlanta braves cincinnati reds. Who won ho. God come on do you know. I don't know i hope. It ended in a tie in true disney. Oh because the spring training games they do allow those to end in a tie really. I would like to think that. Walt would want a winter here. Do you think he would have cheered for. Hopefully not the reds. That's just the cardinals fan and you talking. I don't know he probably would have just been happy to be there ensued. i'm sure for him would probably be like another just like not a dream. Come true but something cool you know to know that. He has these sports complexes from all over the country traveling here and then eventually it became the home for the atlanta braves spring training. So they were there for twenty two years. It ended in two thousand nineteen when they built a new facility. Still in florida. Just not disney. Why would ever leave disney. I don't know. I think disney's fees for we're really high oak. I guess that's why you would leave. So i have two thoughts Actually three thoughts one of. Them's really sweet. I wanna start with that one and you just think about this story and you know all of this conversation that we've had today you know. This is probably the most historical episode that we've ever had because this has just been you know the retailing of information. But i do think it's interesting. You know just because we like sports and and to tell these stories that maybe aren't as familiar with disney fans but anyway you think about from the time at the studio at the hyperion where they're playing baseball in a field to a major league. Baseball team is playing an exhibition. Game at the. Walt disney world resort. I mean that's i mean that's poetic. It's really cool to think about it. This seed of baseball which personally my favorite sport. It means a lot to me really came all the way through and followed eighty ninety years of the company to get to this point where they did it now for my not so nice points okay Isn't it kind of a shame that you would presume now. The biggest moneymaker for this thing is the cheerleading and dance competitions l. My goodness. I should know that you would bring this up i so in a previous life. I did competition. Cheerleading and meet brendon. Were actually dating at the time and this is probably his least favorite thing about dating me. Being with me ever is having to sit through those competitions. If any of you do that your daughters or family members or you did it with your significant others. Growing up it's it really takes a toll on your mental health. I really i really consider myself a war warrior for making it through it. It's really like a badge of honor that you just have to carry with you for all time if you were able to survive going to competition cheerleading events without having a mental breakdown. I honestly can't take you seriously now. But that just goes to show. 'cause i i can't talk about that if it goes to show that the wide world of sports complex has a lot of different uses and that is a big one i mean. They hold those competitions from like january until like april or may cause there are so many different categories. And you think about the hotels the all all store all gosh all-star sports hotels they rent them to these athletes because they're so close by and they're cheap Which is good for families who are traveling for sports adds up. It's very expensive. So i mean it was interesting to think that it's not just baseball. Tennis fields at one point. I don't know if they actually built it. But i read about like a a huge bowling facility that was going to be like the biggest bowling facility in the united states. I don't know if it's there or not but you know like the run disney expos and everything are held there Obviously they proved that they could host the entire nba. As well though. It is just like a plethora of you know opportunity here for them again. Moneymaker what what is your kind of hope for the future. Obviously it seems very under utilized right now like it's it's do you think when they really built it the first time they were expecting to just host these competition events like they host like the pop warner football as well. They've had the pro bowl skills competition. There in the past which i think is a really cool thing that they do the when it was in orlando they would go play it at camping world stadium closer to downtown. So if the pro bowl comes back i would assume they're coming back to orlando As well but you'd have to think they want something more for like. I've always said league. Baseball team would be silly not to play there. I mean you can call them the disney dopey for like here like people would go like people used to go to those brave spring training games. And you get you know. Disney always talks about expanding to you know to reach new audiences mean. That's that's the people who don't have any interest in going to magic kingdom but like my family that we'd come to florida and we drive all around this state going to spring training games and we'd always go to a braves game because it's like why wouldn't you. It's it's one of the nicest facilities at disney. You're know you're going to get exceptional service. So it's really great. So i don't know i wish there was more for the public to experience there and not just have it be a pop. Warner is in town or the cheerleading event is in town. Her dan petition. Yeah i i wish there was just a little bit more. Something more permanent. 'cause it's beautiful when we were there for the run disney expo. It is a beautiful facility. It has so much potential over the years they have put money into it In updating at you know giving them big you know. I don't know jumbotron would be the right word but like big electronic screens and scoreboards and everything like that. So it's not like they just built it and then it's old and run-down. It is very well-maintained. And it's clean and again nine different complexes you know the place is huge so even if they did have like a permanent like of baseball team or something you know. They could very easily still host. These other competitions you know if they wanted multiple forms of revenue. I don't know maybe you'll have to pitch someday. I'll be the manager okay. Baseball team and disney. Toby is that what we're going with. I'll think on it Other names would be like the lake. One of the Alligators i could go with that Or the possibilities are limitless. Correct vehicles has any good ideas. Please let me know if that about wraps it up. You know like we said we've pretty much come full circle from our original conversation but i think the last thing that we have to do since disney we mentioned has lots of sports movies we did want to highlight some of our favorite sports movies both ranked our top three and we both have an honorable mention as well. I have to okay. What's your number three. Oh gosh i'm pulling it up right now you go first. My number three is miracle the hockey movie about the run of the american team to the olympic gold cup gold medal. Whatever it is herb brooks so we mentioned this just briefly. I did not watch a lotta movies growing up that we're not you know like lion king like your typical animated disney movies though i'm at an extreme disadvantage much to brendan's dismay here so my list is a little off the wall that i did look at a list of disney sports movies and i can confirm that these were on the list the before you give me any grief. I'm just throwing that out. There might number three pick. I can't say with a straight face. I never three is herbie fully. Loaded sports car race. I promise as cars is on your list. I'm going to flip. This table. can't pretty up. I mean going up group in the era of like lindsey lowe hand before she went crazy. You know freaky friday. All these things that she within loved her. Have to pick this one. We watch it quite frequently in my house number two for me. If this is a movie that you haven't seen we're going to watch it tonight. I don't care what time it is. It's nine thirty four. pm in case. Anyone is wondering the rookie with dennis. Quaid no not ring any bells. Tell me what it's about what it about. It's about a man who thinks his baseball career is over. He's older and his family is pushing him that he shouldn't give up on the stream of baseball so he goes and tries out and becomes a rookie at very old age. But he's a superstar and he's also no kind of scene that kind of butchered that plot. But that's the gist of it. I remember watching one. Matthew wants with brad pitt. what was that moneyball. Was that disney. No okay but i did. I did watch that movie. What team is that based off of you remember now the oakland a.'s. It's pretty forgettable. Gosh they're having elephant as their mascot like child. I'm here for the mascots i never to pick. This'll make you table. I went with get your head in the game as musical. Oh my gosh. Sports movie as basketball. You could say that about anything. There's always a scene where somebody's playing a sport. Net basketball is the central figure of the movie. He's a basketball star. Only reason all allow is because zach. Ron tribal big f ron fans in this house. We i everyone should be great guy. What's your number one. pick brandon. Cool runnings i should have known. You're going to pick that. I love that movie. I makes my stomach hurt. I laughed so hard at cool runnings. It is absolutely fantastic. And i will get to our armaments a second but your number one i. I'm on the edge of my seat. You can't wait for this it's cars. Oh how could you not pick cars. No i'm not well so i'll go ahead and do my honorable mentions. Please take the topic of cars as your favorite sports movie. Why didn't you kick chow. Why didn't you pick cars to such a wonderful film. That he knows that. You're regionals the best and i hope people listening agree. So do you consider like Where those movies. A fast and the furious at a sports movie. You have never seen those. Unless i i. I've never seen it. So i can't tell you i don't know are they. Racing is their trophy. Involved is the piston cup. They're exactly okay. Honorable mentions i. I did have to throw in one. Remember the titans. That's a very good movie. That was my honorable mention. But i'll explain to you. Why did make might list after you're done so if i were to make a more serious list i would definitely put that on my list because it is a very good maybe And it was one of those that they played you know like in our high school all the time as like one of the approved approved movies that they could play so i know a lot of it But then when that came to mind right before we started recording. When i watched a lot and then it came out in two thousand two snow. Dogs savell dog sled racing. Okay yeah this is. This is going so well. My plan. My luncheons where the mighty ducks of the mighty. Ducks airbud. I also really wanted up into the dekom category because they have a lot of sports movies like luck of the irish could be in there. I didn't mention that because we talked about it just the other day when we did our luck. Episode like brink would work. I mean based on your categories of anyway as a sport and that work so goofy movie apparently is a sports movie ice princess but have been one. What does ice princess ice skating. Don't remember that one okay. Real quick reason for remember the titans not being on there is an excellent movie is a tear jerker everything you could ever want out of a movie however. Our friends over at monterey radio ruined it for me. I never knew this i. I wish i could live the rest of my life living in the dark. Are you going to ruin it for everybody else. Now yes it's not historically accurate like in the least bit in that is a tough pill to swallow their. So you're saying so. It's based off a true story. That's what they claim that it's not. It did not happen that way at all. Like a feel good ending kind of thing. I think it did have a feel good ending the issue is that it. That's i think that's my real issue. Is that. It is a very remarkable and wonderful story. That needs to be told. They just didn't tell it accurately. Okay so yeah it's not like it's it's a bad story i it's a. It's obviously facing distorted. Estes yeah story. That's passed down for generations in virginia. And you know is a lot of people remember this happening. But they didn't accurately tell it Other ones that come to mind are invincible. I am very surprised. You didn't watch that with your dad being a philadelphia sports fan. I'm sure he's watched it but he does better than to try to force us to watch sports. Maybe i think that might be. This is little bit different episode for you guys today Wanted to take a little bit more of a historical route and we want to try to hit these anniversaries and things as they come up some so sense the mighty ducks series came out this week and is the anniversary of the angels being purchased by disney. We thought it was very appropriate to put this topic together. I had a blast researching this and telling it. This was definitely probably more up my alley than yours. I don't know next time if you wanna research princesses her something more appropriate and in your wheelhouse but I had fun too so before we sign off. Want to mention again if you're planning a disney trip or in that early process and stage doing that definitely reach out to handle the sponsor of this episode her information to get that free quote completely free to use. Her services is down in the show notes below or go to little bit of disney dot com. And of course if you enjoyed the show or got any sort of information or entertainment out of this then leaving us an eighteenth review is absolutely the best way to help us out and we truly appreciate it and makes our day so thank you so much for listening. Hope you have a wonderful start your week and we will chat with you on thursday listening to detroit in evelyn via you. Enjoyed the show between episode. You can find us on instagram. 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