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Friday 27 September

Monocle 24: Midori House

32:09 min | 11 months ago

Friday 27 September

"You're listening to molecules house. Few first broadcast on the twenty seventh of September Two Thousand Nineteen on monocle twenty four this is Monica the house view coming up today to say Mr Speaker. I've never heard Tom Bugging on my life. It has been very much so another week in Brexit also we'll look at Canada and Hong Kong where two very different leaders are trying to very different tax to deal with two very different crises we will fanfare tomorrow's Australian football league grand final with a look at the weed and dare we say wonderful world of AFL club songs awesome. Thank and we're talking about Milton Keynes it says here for some reason all that and more coming up on Monaco's house view starting now and welcome to today's edition of Monaco's House view with me Andrew Miller and we will start here in the United Kingdom though it has been one of those weeks where it's hard to know where to start with the United Kingdom on Tuesday which already feels like it happened sometime during the reign of Edward the seventh the UK Supreme Court decided I unanimously that the Prime Minister Boris Johnson had acted unlawfully advising the queen to suspend parliament parliament has since resumed and has not being in a forgiving mood refusing the just about governing conservative party even the traditional recess to enable the Tories annual conference joined with more on this upon Nichols Executive Producer Tom Edwards. What's been the highlight for you this week. Well this is it Andrew. It's been a selection of lowlights even by the standards did of the rhetoric that we've seen really since the Brexit vote and the subsequent sort of political impasse inertia. Call it what you will. It feels like this week's really reached a new low ebb. If only in terms of the way that people in particular the chamber itself in Parliament in the House Cohen's talking to one another and I think because we we should note especially for international listeners has always been usually observe of traditional off decorum in the houses of parliament idiot is all my honorable friend and so on and so forth which is not to say that things don't get a little title unruly from time to time. This is the point there. Are these very established nice season. I guess most of our very educated listeners know that most of the function of the House and indeed need most of all function of our politics is governed by convention rather than by any sort of formal constitutional doctrine. I think that point is very important under the Aegis said about it has its moments in the past and even in recent memory one can think of perhaps Tony Blair and the atmosphere in the house toxic around around say the Iraq war well that was so much toxic as genuinely impassioned well the margin between yeah I think in any example you can cite like Thatcher Administration for over a decade had a number of these outbursts. They tend to be followed by a lull. There was often a spark a row about an issue about a date a moment and the vitriol always almost always was then with a period of calm reflection action in a gradual rebuilding of some form of consensus the problem we've had over the last couple of years and indeed we're seeing it day. After day off day day off detail today the problem it reconvened this time there's no relief to it and I think if you look at the newspapers here in the UK it's reflecting the sense of frustration and depending where on on the spectrum you gather your news from you either see Telegraph for example Kohl's. MP's must not be bullied into CA tailing language. This is the Telegraph Telegraph the very pro brexit former employer of the president prime minister or if you even look the times another newspaper of record divisive language harms chance for deal Tories. He's Worn Johnson and we've had to look as so often over the last couple of years to other voices voices unexpected voices perhaps to bring a little it clarity and I know Andrew. We talked about this moment ago. The twenty year old daughter of former Labor party stalwarts evacuate bulls when public talking about her fears for her parents safety and this of course is through the prism of what happened to Joe Cox and again just for international listeners Boris Johnson cited jokes who was murdered by apnea member of parliament for Butler and spent if Manson an outspoken campaign against brexit and Johnson said the way to honor the memory coaxes to get brexit done. I think that seems the verdict most right minded people. That's very insulting to her and her family to go against so I mean it was a weird moment element for Johnson. The only two possible explanations are that he knew exactly what he was saying that he didn't know exactly what he was saying. Which I realize is possibly possibly unhelpful summation but do you know what I mean because because it is such a weird thing to have said well it's been extraordinary to see the reaction to those pronouncements announcements from John Scenarios. Obviously he's been traveling back from New York where he left a U. N. G. A short order one imagines he's not exactly well rested at the moment but even see commentators like his sister. You know they've been saying this is. This is meat and drink fan. This is what he likes. He likes to be the PM. He wants to try and play strongman tactics takes. You've got people like his advise. Dominant coming so people are suggesting driving this rhetoric for the advancement of their political program on the other hand. Lets people we'll saying listen. Everybody needs to show some restraint some respect and actually if we want to make any kind of progress here it actually doesn't matter where you are on the Brexit on the Ba- brexit spectrum. If you want to see momentum we need to start having constructor discussions depressingly. There is almost certainly plenty more where that came from next week Tom. Edwards thank you for joining us. You're listening to Monaco's house view. You're listening to Monica's house view. I'm Andrew Muller Enter Canada now where it has been a memorable couple of weeks for anyone anyone who bet heavily earlier in the year on Justin Trudeau's fancy dress preferences becoming a major election issue Canada votes on October twenty first and the upshot of this will be whether or not Justin Trudeau is returned as Prime Minister Trudeau has apologized and obviously quite rightly for his bizarre serial misadventures in black face but how forgiving is the electorate proving to be joined with more on this from Toronto by a bureau chief. Thomas Lewis Thomas. We will have by now seen some post scandal polling. Does it look like it has put a dent in him well. The needle hasn't really moved tall. Andrea poll was made at the end of last week. AAC directly at the height of this scandal as you say is the three photos and video of published by various news outlets and yes the opinion polls was really haven't budged one bit and they seem to have remained pretty much the same this week which I think too many people watching this story you know from the outside you'll be the prettiest of amazed by think that what that speaks to is two things. I think the way that Justin Trudeau handled the release of these images ages was very swift very sort of categorically like in his in his apologies which really sort of cut the story down and really cut the energy I think from the opposition parties attempts to really use this ring every drop from the scandal I think the second thing is is that he's opponents actually have also failed in on their own to really capture the imagination of large swathes of the electorate too so I think if we had for example charismatic leader the head of the Conservatives aw party on the left the MVP perhaps they would have really risen to the top in this scandal but they haven't so I think we are surprisingly only so kind of kind of where we were before the the images broke last week. If this isn't landing as an issue then obviously Justin Trudeau will be profoundly relieved saved if it is an what is still then seeming to preoccupy Canadian voters as they make their minds up what I think if you look at the campaign itself has this kind of return to the sort of normal tone of general election campaign we are having daily announcements of policy proposals by all of the major parties tease. Trudeau made the big announcement. Excuse me on the environments this week the leader of the opposition Conservatives also made lots of flagship proposals and I think you know the feels kind of quite normal in terms of the tone. I think what you know lots of Canadians have felt is that fair is maybe Abia growing some slightly shapeless sense of distrust or mistrust towards Justin Trudeau and his government for several things that they haven't done during their first term in office most notably reforming voting system here which is a big big issue for many voters. I'm also the environmental credentials so this very controversial intra-vaginal pipeline project in Western. Canada has returned lots of voters away from the Liberal Party. The other parties haven't really had this sort of million dollar kind of answer to sort of sway lots of voters so far though it seems and so he will I suspect we will get more policy announcements on pensions for example on trying to young voters into the fold over the next week or so as election day gets closer well on the subject of the environment mm than there is some chat from the Green Party that they think they could be in a position to hold the balance of power after the election. They are of course presupposing a hung parliament. Is this just pre-election. Braggadocio would does it appear actually possible. There is definitely a quite a big dose of of of that I think from the Green party who can blame them. Frankly they've had some really impressive opinion polls standings the last couple of months particularly and in in a provincial election earlier this year they almost took Paolo which would have meant the first green government in any part of Canada in Canada's history I think you know if you're looking at the way Canadian elections work. Usually people anticipate surprises but quite often things slip back to how they were that isn't I should say what happened back for years ago. When Justin Trudeau One when his opinion poll ratings were pretty low and then he came in and swept up a full majority in the House of Commons in Ottawa so who knows I think it's very worthwhile politically for the Green party to be staking back claiming in that way I think it's worth noting to that both the MVP the party on the left here and the Green Party has said that if the Conservative Party won a minority government or one won the popular vote then they didn't have a green agenda within their mandate they within join forces effectively pushed for another election so they are trying to raise the stakes. If Election Day does yield a bit of a mess I suppose electorally in terms of the makeup of the House of Commons and I think you you know any political party. Small large would be trying to do the same thing so I think it's all quite sort of you know. We're not quite sure how the message will roll on. I think if you look back to the events the week ago it's remarkable how quickly they have from scandal that looked like it was about to torpedo prime minister. Thomas Lewis Out Toronto Bureau chief. Thank you very much for joining. When you're listening to Monaco's house few you are listening to Monaco's House view in Hong Kong. The city government's Chief Executive Carrie Lam has taken the bold step all things considered of interacting directly with the citizens as Hong Kong braces aces for yet another weekend of protests last night. Lamb held a town hall meeting at which she fielded questions from one hundred and fifty people selected by lottery twenty thousand people applied for more on this joined in-studio by Monocle Research Carina Choi who is usually based in our Hong Kong Bureau but it's here in London at the moment a a it's hard to know whether appearing before the public like that Karina was a bold move or basically about the play she had left. How did it go. I mean based on what we saw. She was kind of asking for all this confrontation. didn't play out so great for her. Seventy people were selected to speak out of the one hundred fifty and most of them vented their frustration toward her administration her incompetence as a leader some even asking her to step down people were asking questions like why listen to one hundred fifty randomly selected citizens when you won't listen to over two million people who've taken to the streets three-fer question put like that yes us jackson-lee and some have even you know picked on specific incidents like Yunlong attacks when triads appeared at the subway stations and police didn't come in time I am to help people out people said how do you respond to those who've been brutally attacked and beaten up by the police what she like at because it varies enormously from politicians. Titian to politician is she good at dealing with people and at interacting with the public some some politicians have terrific aptitude for some just terrible where does where does she figure on that spectrum. We'll purely based on the past four months. We've seen that you know press conferences. At this dialogue specifically it just seemed like she had a list of responses a list of talking points and regardless of what was thrown out her. She would just say the same thing. She had no empathy not at all for the people. She didn't suggest made an make any suggestion that she would come to any sort of compromise so I mean it's telling of how just truly truly incompetent she has is as leader so if this meeting did not impress the people selected by lottery to be there all that much and it seems very much like it didn't did. Did it have a wider resonance. Did it attract a sympathetic response outside the venue well directly outside the venue. There were there. There were protesters surrounding the area and obviously before this all happened. She said you know this is a peaceful dialogue. I hope that we can come together. We can be be united but she there were riot. Police stationed outside with tear gas and rubber bullets at the ready so for her to to have that station patient there. It's just not welcoming for anyone. No one's going to feel safe. No one's going to feel like they can trust her. and unfortunately it took her four hours to get out of the venue because protesters were just so angry at the way that she handled last night well it is as we go to where either very late on Friday night the very early on Saturday morning in Hong Kong depending on on how you calibrate these things. What are you expecting this weekend in terms of protest so it's going to be the fifth anniversary bursary of the umbrella movement on Saturday tomorrow so and also as as we mentioned previously October first on Tuesday which is the seventieth anniversary of the People's Republic of China and to organize protests have been given the green light so people are allowed to take to the streets. There shouldn't be be violence. We hope that they won't there won't be violence. an speaking to some of the protesters and organizers they say that these upcoming marches are an opportunity for people people to mourn more than anything the lives of those who have been sacrificed for the past seventy years or those who you know the suicides have occurred it over the past four months as well so overall we we shouldn't expect a lot of violence particularly if the police have given the protesters the green light to go forward career choice. Thank you for joining us in just a moment. This is Monaco's house feud do stay tuned and at this point on the house view a shoutout to listeners in Melbourne and indeed Sydney who may find themselves unable to sleep for anticipation of tomorrow's Australian Football League grand final. The Australian state of Victoria is certainly unusual probably unique in observing two public holidays for sporting events one. The first Tuesday of November is Melbourne Cup Day in Fantas. The rest of the country pretty much takes the afternoon off for the race as well the other the last Friday my day in September is Grand Final Eve the day before the climactic match of the Australian football league season for which more than one hundred thousand listened people will fill the Melbourne cricket ground to watch the Premiership decided the football. They're watching is of course Australian Rules Football Australia's earliest peculiar passion the code correctly described by one Australian Prime Minister Sir Robert Menzies as the greatest winter game devised by mortal men the clubs contesting the grand final this year Richmond from the suburbs of Melbourne founded in eighteen eighty five and greater western Sydney kidney from the outer suburbs of Sydney who only joined the AFL in two thousand and twelve a creation of the league at spectacular expense and with generous assistance assistance to further the cause of Australian rules in territory traditionally dominated by rugby league so there are many subtexts to Saturday but one of the weed is that this clash between the Tigers and the giants is also a contest of the two best a fill club songs. Here's Richmond's and here is greater western. Sydney's dowd from the club's songs are a curious quirk uh of the AFL all eighteen clubs have won and they are braid and bellowed by fans in the stands and players in the dressing rooms in the event of victory. The League's older establishment teams have mostly borrowed their's from familiar tunes. Jill lungs is the toreador song from bees as common Be Collingwood's started life as has the music whole standard goodbye. Dolly Gray in Carlton's stately anthem is the minstrel Choon Lily of Laguna and and the Saints Kilda serenade historically infrequent wins with an obvious choice the the canonical versions were recorded in the early nineteen seventies by a choir of Melbourne jazz players wrangled by a record company called fable the expansion of once the Victorian Football League to become the Australian football league during the nineteen eight thousand nine thousand nine hundred ninety s saw new teams added to the competition and therefore four the necessity of new songs in several regrettable instances original works were commissioned these all absolutely sucked and indeed suck still non worse than non more eighty s abomination which fanfares the West Coast Eagles onto the field greater western Sydney's splendid blended swaggering stomp is the work of Harry Angus of Millburn rock band the Cat Empire the no great football fan angus understood what was marvelous about the original clubs club songs an outcome is that blend of match. Oh braggadocio and arch high camp into something that sounds like it might have welcomed Soviet tank divisions back from the battle of Kursk Greater Western. Sydney are a new club with few fans and little history Richmond aren't old club but one of the best supported in the country with with a glorious heritage the two thousand nine hundred nine grand final this Saturday shapes as quite a game innovation versus tradition money versus passion Sydney versus Melbourne but whoever wins will have an appropriately rousing song to sing when the final siren's gone. I am joined now on Nichols Nicole's house view for reasons which will shortly become apparent by monocle research. Nick Milanese who being from Perth may first of all have something to say in defense of West Coast Eagles terrible and stupid stone. I don't I really dinosaurs crooked versatile. I think you'd find that most. West Coast Eagles fans also I think it's terrible so why does it possess because it is objective garbage. It's it's the it's the worst one thousand nine hundred radio rock drivel. It's even got someone playing bass with the thumb which should be a crime punishable Chaba by having the digits zone off one hundred percent agree and really. I think you would find moist paypal do why we persist. I think maybe a stubbornness but like like I was saying earlier when we were chatting about these walls. We're listening to your pace. We are constantly trying to reinvent it like we. We introduced a chant last year at the start of it to try and sort of jazz it. It sounds like a high school sports day. That's what it sounds like now that they've got the chance at the start. Well my attempt to bite you into controversy. There has clearly really failed so we should probably talk about the thing you're actually here to talk about which it says right here on the running order is Milton Keynes This is possibly not some it's ever happened on any of our shows before mcquarry talking about Milton Keynes we are talking about it because I was reporting there for the festival of creative urban living living now now. I don't know if you noticed about Milton Keynes or anything about have you. Have you heard it's been made fun of. It's the punchline for I've been there once. I think I went to see. Ram At Milton Keynes bowl a billion years ago this this cows as well right concrete castle museum I believe that would be concrete. Candles run the museum. No concrete cows are now housed in a museum but that that cuts to the core of Milton Keynes is made fun of four. It's the fact that you know. There wasn't really anything there. There was a joke they couldn't actually have agricultural farm to install concrete cows to make up the numbers it was a place that people didn't WanNa be necessarily it was started in nineteen sixty seven as part of the new towns movement where the British government basically declared a whole heap in new towns around the UK to move people out of the cities to ease overcrowding in them and Milton Keynes I guess became a the showpiece newtown. I know you are skillfully avoiding the question of why you were there. was there okay so. I think so because we're going to give you a little bit of Evan designed background so it was designed in the Garden City Movement where they had lots lots of housing with light industry and agricultural all mixed together in a single development. I guess surrounded by trees. The housing itself is absolutely outstanding. You're surrounded by greenery. There's ample open space at the front and the back of the houses. The issue is visit our you're not experiencing this yours simply driving through one of its many wide roads punctuated by roundabouts and not really getting the tree. Milton Keynes experience so the city council in setting up these festival wanted to try and showcase that so they're inviting people people to come and stay with a resonant to try and get an understanding for what it's like to live in Milton Keynes and why it's so good and is that what you did did you go and stay with some Milton Keynes. I did stay with a lovely eighty year old woman named poulain she we it was a quintessentially English experience we had fish and chips for dinner cool English breakfast in the mornings and Moshi. Oh she pays the night before a cup of tea it was it was delightful so he can intrigue listeners go online and sign up for this they can so the the festival runs from the twenty sixth the September to the thirteenth of October and it's not it's not just the beds united program which is what you spend the night in the city it's also hosted by the exhibitions and events of closed off part of the main street or the Midsummer Boulevard to house an ideas forum for I guess vision in the new future for Milton Keynes because it was it was meant to be a kind of utopia by having all these built you know these buildings surrounded by greenery and and you know it was the advent of the age of the car and they really embrace that but now they've gotta trying I guess envision a new type here and that's why they want to get people in and sharing their ideas and exploring at three this festival we can read all about this in an upcoming edition of Monocle you can I have have a observation at the start of the magazine and you can read about it. They're okay with that nick. I will leave you to enjoy the West Coast Eagles final few hours as reigning Phil Premiums you are listening to Molecules House viewed and finally on the House view to Germany any specifically to it's very easternmost city girl. It's it is not a well-known destination though it probably should be it survived World War Two largely unscathed and remains things a modest masterpiece of quaint middle European architecture several film directors have noticed this including Quinn Tarantino and was Anderson but not enough others so girl. It's is offering people chance to come and live there for a month four nothing accommodation and workspace provided no strings attached enjoy now now taking a break from packing his later hose and by Monaco's Marcus Hippie Marcus. Iu in fact tempted by this well. I do love Middle European architects texture but at the same time I'm not getting very vibrant vibes from this German city. I was looking at some figures but I was able to find unseen to the German reunification in Nineteen Ninety joins us. This city's population has fallen from ninety thousand to fifty six thousand and the eighties as it to make up forty percent of the population by twenty thirty so you can understand why they want some fresh blood in understands. I also learned that just a couple of years ago. They were also trying to attract young people there by offering them free beer among other freeze for two weeks and go there for two weeks of free beer. No that didn't do the trick either. I have to say that's that's. I think only it's Finland invented. Maybe work together. I'm from Finland and there are many small towns over there trying to you know stop the decline of population. It's it's quite hard over there and what they came up in Finland was that in some places nowadays in some smaller towns they offer you a free plot of land for a nominal price voice off one euro but what's what's more interesting for some individuals is that you sometimes get a baby bonus. If you decide to relocate your new place and have children over this a for for example everyone remember this name less. DRA that's an infant in the middle of nowhere. Could you get ten thousand euros for each baby a B but presumably you to raise them there as well. Suddenly you decide on the verge of spotting loophole exactly exactly actually it's been working quite well in Seattle is so back in twenty twelve when they launched this incentive of baby bonus and ten thousand Euro awards for babies. That's twenty twelve there. There's only one baby born and that baby's name was after that they started paying this money and the next year already forcing babies were born so obviously that works but I think it's a wider issue in Finland that new stats were released to sit couple of days ago from from England of what's happening with the population. Finland is one of the very worst European countries wrist. Go through aging population cry for the highlights. We're just GONNA clip that quote so we have you seen. Finland is one of the very worst European countries. Well listen to this. He's finished. People just are not. They're not having children anymore so in just three or four years time. The situation may get so bad. They're more puppies. Being born in Finland lengthened babies so something needs to be done and and and it's quite clear that we're not there yet when robots would be looking after the after Finland's elderly the people so Finland should start to think about this issue properly as well sadly the right wing forces or Finland. Don't thing that migration would be a solution to this. It's remains to be seen the obvious one and this has been an issue with girl. It says well which like a lot of East Germany is something of a haven of anti-immigrant sentiment and Alternative Alternative Fedora Sean the anti-immigrant Party exactly that is so true and I think that's something that needs to be solved eventually after after reading the news from Finland from girl is I was thinking that it would actually make a good point for them to exchange information so you know Finland has many things they offer for free you get free education free healthcare free childcare yeah and so forth but otherwise expensive so maybe Finland should start considering that free beer as well has Finland of all places also thought of offering free mittens mm free sunlamps nauseates. I hope Finland's listening because that that would be my tip that would be my principal. Reservation would be the eleven and a half months of darkness and in freezing cold. Every otherwise is awesome. I couldn't possibly agree more Marcus Hippie. Thank you very much for joining us. That is all for today. Show Monaco's house view was produced by Daniel. You'll bake and research by will Higginbotham studio manager was David Steven's coming up at twenty hundred Marcus will be back with a brand new edition of the Menu Molecules House view. He returns at the same time on Monday. That's eighteen hundred London time which is of course thirteen hundred Toronto the rest of you can figure out the time difference yourselves. I'm Andrew Miller. Thanks very much for listening have have a great weekend mm-hmm.

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Max & Herc: Momentum Shift in Shield Race

ESPN FC

1:20:26 hr | 1 year ago

Max & Herc: Momentum Shift in Shield Race

"The. Time for oil change head the jiffy lube, we've got you covered. We've also got you covered when it comes to oil changes. Thanks to tens oil synthetic motor oil getting back on the road and Jeffey. Jiffy lube, leave worry behind. Back here on the maximum hurt podcast. Hello, everybody. Another great week. I'm a little lonely though because I'm here I had Hercules. It was nice to to look at him in the eye so I can. I hold them accountable for everything. He says, you know what I found interesting in my producer found into chain as well is interesting as well. Skews me is one day you show up on time is is the week that I'm there. I was. Come on now come on by the way I share it. Can I say. It's amazing impression you eve on people Maximiliano Breda's in what? In what sense? In a positive sense. I say this with the utmost respect you definitely make your impression felt so I was with the good people of Nacion ESPN this in Los Angeles working out of their studios. And every time you would come in the room, there would be a loud applause by twenty or so people. And then everyone will do their own inside joke with you. It was insane. And I would like to, you know, I'm glad you brought that up because I would like to say something and if anyone affiliated with ESPN is listening and I know some people are because this is a look. We get a look this. I do a lot of things all over the spectrum, especially especially since moving out here high and low. In good faith and bad. But the I see a lot of stuff I work with a lot of people, but the group of people that work on Ness yon ESPN they brought this and John show which ended this past week, which was part of the reason the English version, which I'm eternally grateful because it allowed me to get my creative juices flowing gave a forum for Carlos Scotty shock to come to the United States and record his hit single deal. And the people that work on that show are the best the best they're good to work with their encouraging. They work their tails off. They speak English Spanish. There's cultures and nationalities them all over the place. So nothing gets by them. So ESPN that group cesspool group by the way. Alvarez, Rafa Luna. They do multiple shows, different platforms. They absolutely kill it when highest rated programs under the week programs. Number one in all the networks of your ship allowed to a great job in the great job in both languages that guy's a star. Yeah. Yeah. The people there this, the talent speaks for themselves, but the people behind the scenes are amazingly good at what they do, and they're amazingly good people. But that's what struck me is I'm their. I mean, listen, they never say no. To me, they always like, yeah, let's do it. And they and they roll up their stage show the show will record around. I don't know four, four thirty. So I get there around twelve twelve thirty in our run through the rundown with them many low production meeting. And as soon as you roll in, it's like a collect applause, and inside jokes, and every smile and every he's got a story about you. I found that both odd because I wanna know exactly why everybody has a story about you and extremely endearing, but it goes to show, you know, the. Max Brito fact that you have on people Bretault. No, s the Bredow. That's how they call me. Though? Yeah, I actually got like I was working with combat the medicos and they saw building and its belt Brito so I couldn't get dropping. I'm not. I'm just want to get paid the on again Bank it. But if you're watching us, being bored is doing it's great channel and especially during big events there, it's really cool to. So he's wanna drop that as well. Sorry, turn off the ringer to my brother. He has something to say, always the Bretault family has something to say, yes, by the way, Saturday, I'm not kidding I. It was disgusting how much sports I watched. 'cause I'm a fan of this. The Australian Football League, you know, the AUSSIE rules. You're the guy, you're the fan, but I stayed up. I was eleven to two and I watched it 'cause my team calling with Magpies they took on the West Coast Eagles and lost on dream. Great name. I watched the Magpies the magpie crow, it's like a crow. Oh, is that what it is? Yeah, you want to know what my week consisted of. Yeah. Well, I so Ryder Cup, then I saw. European soccer leagues, and I watched Florida state play that I watched the New York City. I'm sorry l. FC Chicago fire game and then got martyred back in the college football. I watched fights. It was. It was disgusting. So I, I need. I need to clean myself from sports, although now they have these baseball games going on. Yeah, I did nothing that I worked all week. My wife and baby came with me in Los Angeles on my parents come out from Vegas, took the kid. You know, took our kid to Disney. My parents got the hang out and relax while I worked legislature ESPN. Right. I had a day off yesterday. You know what I did yesterday? Yes. I moved my mother-in-law into our new place. Ooh, that must have been fun. Yes. Some old stuff to move like refrige- my wife. I should say anything. Yeah, you might wanna shouldn't say it doesn't throw stuff. It's just say, let me let me. In the housing kidding me. Let me tell you about how I don't even know what times. Oh, my time zone. I'm in. You do not know what Hal is like until you have a sick child and you have a Red Eye on a Saturday night with the sick child in your wife in neither of you can sleep more than one hour. I got to the all the people on the plane. Hate your guts called absolutely hated as we were that coupling don't ever complain to someone who has a crying child because there's no one who feels any worse about that crying child parents, Ryan, but she was whatever you feel you feel bad alongside you? Yeah, yeah. Now I was ready. I was ready to throw throw hands. If somebody would have came to me, it was. It was bad. So we got to. We got the Hartford around five thirty. I got to west Hartford after we picked up our luggage and whatnot got home around six thirty. There was a car that came to pick me up at eight AM to take me to Harrison New Jersey because your boy was gonna call red boy Lanta in Spanish. So I got zero sleep this week, and I woke up today at ten o'clock with my eyes. So so like just swollen. It was crazy. We had no idea what time it was. All of us fellow sleep like three hours past our normal Waco Bowers, it was it was crazy, but we're here now max right here now, and I could take that segue to talk about red bull Atlanta, but I wanna talk about moving air travel a little bit more of just kidding this kid. Let's get red bull, Atlanta, this was good. It was a fun week leading up to that. And you know, I you hype up games that was in any sport. You get the top two teams and your plumped, and you certainly was the case. It was a festive environment since the beginning of foundation of good rivalry and it was there and rebels were short handed. And now this chase, the supporters shield is heating up. So I've always liked, I've always liked red better in the big picture. I like their team better. We've talked about it. I. Whoa, whoa. No, I think they're the best team, but I worry being impartial mouth like, wait a minute. You know what I mean? I like their chances. If I had to pick a team to win, it would be the rebels, but you've never in your life, pick the rebels for talked about who's going to win the supporter shield? Six weeks ago, I said the rebels, you said New York City of c. Want me to pull the tape. I mean, you may want to believe. I don't believe you've ever said a positive thing about the red bulls. You're crazy. I said, I, I've always said there. They are the top team in my estimation in this league, my issue with them is that they're, they get an injury or something. There's going to be valuable, but they had that this week and weren't any problems is still much much rather see in Atlanta game than a red bull game, but the red bull, right. I red bulls, whipped better. This is a message that the just sent not only Atlanta, but the rest of the league in the fan bases as well. It's, hey, you may wanna look over on this side because we've got something to say when it comes about being the best team Major League Soccer and his playoff contention and what can happen in it. I feel guilty. I gotta say, max, I feel a little guilty. I think I played a part in Atlanta's downfall. Yep, you wanna know why yet? Why? So Sebastian data Martino. No, no, no, no, no. I will tell you why. So bashing Salazar so bashes. I thought he was. There was a moratorium where he did not. We did not speak about him for he's on probation. He is not allowed on the maximum podcast until he gets his outlandish thoughts. In order to the Wayne Rooney article, the Wayne Rooney article, the situation he's on probation. He knows he's on probation for the max and hurt platform. We will not give him this platform until he gets his act together, but he wasn't available as a sideline reporter for this game, and I was going to call the game and Spanish deport is wanted somebody go interview eco LT tovia, Atlanta, United player player looks very nice individual as well. So I interviewed him before the game. They gave me a minute, twenty tops. So I got four questions in very quickly. He did very well to answer them. And the questions were talked to about this, you know, supporter shield race with red bull. What worries you about the rebels? The answered it very well. They're very good team very capable of getting results. We need careful that other. Talk to me about your personal decision really quickly what it means to be called up to the Paraguayan national team from Godel soda who the new coach. Your dad is from Paraguay, but you will. Yeah. He said, I'd like to clear this up. My brother and I were born in Argentina, but we very much have deep Paraguayan roots are all our families from Paraguay. He speaks what any other. That's very school. Good. Great answer. Great answer. And you know that doesn as been in the news a lot, quite frankly, what what does that mean? And you know, he said, we focus on this and he answered everything perfectly. It was a four, three or four questions. No more than a minute fifteen. And that was it afterwards. Come to find that they were upset that we ask them more than the game at hand. Well, you're, you're causing all sorts. Yeah, listen states, they hate you eventers and now it Lanta. They're like, okay, let's on on gras. This is what the league wants the league wants eyeballs. So when they find out we are interviewing active Argentina. ESPN wants a piece. Paraguay wants a piece. Good. Think in land America wants a piece, resourceful. So your boy as these questions that they put up, which are standard questions. I think they got their feathers ruffled and I think it may have played a part in their downfall. So I am sorry to Atlanta. I mean, right now it's, I mean it's Domino's AR. There's still a great team. This results really makes you reconsider. Of course, I always worry about the rebels playoff history, which is it's reaching out supposed to keep that between us though, but you just told me if you are max and her listener, please don't. Please keep this around just amongst us max and her family about the Elbe. I don't want Atlanta get uncomfortable. Give me a break. You know, I feel I feel bad because at the end of the day and they're very good people at Atlanta and I felt bad getting getting at her was killing the messenger. I felt the messenger was away being killed by there and listen to comes with the territory. You're a big team. You get paid big Russia's on, you have obligations if you do not which to talk about something easiest thing to do is say, no comment in any any person on this side of the press would say, okay, no problem. But we're not about that. We are here and we've taken a couple of stands about, but if it before a game, he doesn't wanna talk about something. Anybody talk about anything. I just going to take a little further with just a point of everyone's upper. Everybody has to talk. Everyone has to talk right, but it'd be an open book and we in the media. MLS listener don't go round spreading all these false claims. Keep that between us this as nothing to do with why anything happened. It was honestly, I was surprised tactically by both teams. I don't know your overall impressions, but when New York I'm hot taken. I say, Kaku the MVP of this league. You are hot, very hot take, but when you are, but even Billips when you're missing Bradley Wright Phillips, one of the most prolific goalscorers this league has ever seen and you are missing Tyler Adams who could be your low key MVP. Yeah. This narrow said about two months ago. Way Kaku Tyler, which one is I'm not I would say Kaku jokingly. 'cause he's body the body works. He's playing like an MVP right now said to go there. But I just not Tyler Adams. I said two months ago. I think this is a guy that has to be given some consideration. Yeah, that's. You cannot say league, stop it. Why not stop? Because the position place. No. 'cause he goes, it's because he's not. He's not in the top fifteen and be in the MVP race. He's he's a both important player for maybe the best team in the league sitting asaid LOKI. Okay. All right. I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying it's good. It's good to kick the tires. I would look Joe's Martinez the MVP, but I am a lot is certainly moving up to his bumper, but as the five, I'm sorry. No, you're five. By the way, stick around later, we're going to have a new topic and I'm gonna give her a lot of credit comes up with these. Great, but we're going to have the three players that we think are most under pressure to perform in October, right, dad lives for their lives. We'll let you know those three a little. The second chance we're going to give a little artistic license to that. All right, we'll get to that. So let me get through this. I'm trying to. I'm trying to keep them because you wanna stick around for that. Yes. Okay, thank you. Are you going back to the interview with young? I'm going to tell you about the game. You're missing Tyler Adams because he's got back spasms and you're missing right floats. Who's your most notorious most important player in front of goal? Most and Tori school score in the league in its history debatable arguable whatever in Chris Armas comes out with this. Now, if this Ernie Stewart was talking about in your face, I get he was literally in your face sucker punching you restraint in the mouth high same, Chris Armas for the us national. I am not. I'm just saying, if this, Chris arming your face. You lose Jesse Marsh, and you don't know what you're gonna get from Chris Armas in the biggest most high profile game against the team of the moment. The team that everybody's talking about, it landed United. You're playing at home on national television ESPN our network. By the way. And you come out with this type of forms suffocating if you will performance against an opponent. What any moment has individuals that can change in turn the game, a drop of a hat, and you put on that type of performance where their best chance Atlanta's best chance may came in the seventy th something minutes. Joseph Martinez was no, and it wasn't because Joseph Martinez had a bad game. I watched Joseph Martinez personally. During this game, he battled he ran. He thought he did everything in his power, Aaron long in Tim Parker made it so difficult for Joseph Martinez to have any type of service the about. I made own where stifled by SHA Taskey and what was Sean Davis and what was a trio of meal was shop skis, voyeurs Goodman. I mean, I know the pain, good. I have a lot in, but he's delivered and he plays every tell you what I came away very impressed with his defensive responsibility because a very good player very capable. On the ball, but to put that type of work rate in in a game where they knew maybe quality wise, they wouldn't be as good. So they had to out work at Lanta outland. I have never seen them bullied. I have never seen a team in Major League Soccer bully Atlanta, like they did this game, Atlanta, Darlington, Nagy, and remedy. First of all, I don't know whether doing with Darlington Darlington that you cannot give him defensive responsibilities. I apologize but Tatham got his lunch just straight stolen and eight by the wasn't pleasant. We're we're no pleasantries. At the end of the game. Listen. He says it was because there was an altercation between assistant coaches and he was arbs are on and the New York red bulls assistant coach, and he was trying to get a little bit knows a little layer frustration there has to be, and I'm sure maybe there are all these doubts with what's going to happen to Atlanta, will they dismantle the team that you still gonna season? You gotta get through this season. Okay. No. Talk about on me. Don't even know talk about just MARTINI tina's leaving no talk about that. The Marino leaving to get your team to not be folks and up to close out the season in the way that your fan base deserves because you put on a hell of a show for seventy plus months you to that fan base to close at Yothu yourselves to close it out. Now you leave it wide open where the rebels, I believe are in command of how things close out how things up. Let's look at that rebels. Last three at San Jose at Philly, Orlando home at Lanta, New England home Chicago home at Toronto. The opponent I, the schedule certainly says, I just the home and away factor. I give the edge to Atlantic as they get to it home, but the oppo maybe the opponents are a little more favorable as well for. Hard to say. So what do you think who's gonna who's gonna finish number one. Listen, momentum's always taught us that the hottest team is the best team in Major League Soccer and one point we mentioned one. Yes, and I believe this is red bull's to lose. I really do. I think so too. This is there to lose. They've shown us they're capable of beating and showcasing themselves on a national scale against the best teams in the league without their best players is seems to be a system a system that since Jesse Marsch laugh hasn't faltered, Chris Armas taken in stride. If anything. I think he's even he's even shown a bit of his tactical chops that didn't have any type of what's the word real quickly in order for you say for red bulls to lose, I would say that they would have to win all three games to wrap up to two. Pass them right, because I think at least seven points of the last three but more likely they would need ni- because I think it land is gonna probably get seven, maybe six. It's close. We've been privileged to very good teams. Do you know what really good? I think they're capable winning the last three really is this east coast west coast conference? Because I would love to see this as a final MLS Cup. This is no real Djabel. This is no reason. We should just heat as an eastern crow. Exactly right. But I'm being honest being serious max. These are to the best teams right now, and I'd love to see these teams congress. They are in the Champions League. I'd love to see these teams playing a fine against final against each other. Why should inferior opponents on the west, you know, be a celebrated into that, I guess, position or chance of playing in the Champions League because they play in division, it's Connor percent agreement, and we talk about the west who's the best team in the west. I don't. I don't know, Kansas City, maybe, but then they get little inconsistent and then Dallas good. And then we know their playoff history and then they get a bit inconsistent. Elliot, see, they're, they're just not there yet with where they want to be week to week. You figured it might make that jump. And then after that Seattle you'd think, but is that the best, whatever I don't wanna get into that. None of those teams can touch it Lanta no rebels, right. Listen. It was at times it was more of a chess match for red bull. The way they pressed. The way they dictated pace while they were just in your face with everything. And I hate being cliche. When I, when I mean by in your face was every they forced Jeff Lorena wits plant deeper position and everytime learn. It's Scott, the ball, he sees me. He was in a position. He didn't feel comfortable being in. He would lock the ball and have Joseph Martinez trying to fight aerial duels, which is not not to say he can't do it, but it's not what you want him do it doing. They really limited the presence of Megan on meet on wwl, but their ability to run at your defenders. Their midfield dictated the pace. They didn't let Atlanta breathe arrest that back line for Atlanta. They were on their heels the whole time on the back foot, the whole time credit the way rebel approaches credit the way they pressured Atlanta. Atlanta hasn't felt that type of physical pressure and hasn't been in at least in my is dominated this way physically since they've entered the league. I thought the I thought this was a blueprint for other teams to follow. If you play Atlanta, if you can physically impose, you're well on them and dictate the pace and pressure that back line because all of a sudden five-man back line when you have Christmas complex as a left back, and you know, he's not gonna offer you much going forward. He's not going to beat you with pace and when you can nullify Julian gristle because Kemar Lawrence hasn't been his pocket for ninety minutes. It was instant Kemar. Lawrence is the best left back in this league that strong statement right there. No, it's this reality, but what he did against Julian Gresley who's probably land is most important player in my eyes because he is we talk about low key players. He's low key as they get when it comes to Atlanta. He doesn't pop off the screen when you see that roster, but he makes them play when you can just completely take him out of the game. You see what it does to on meet on. You see what it does to see what it has Joseph Martinez in the service. That you can limit to him. I'll tell you what thought them out of, you know, when he finally figured it out and went to a four-man backline it was too late when he forces an medi in Darlington abbey to be in the box and defendants three times I counted where he was his defensive principles out the window. He has no defensive principles in the box. He gives the player the attacking player the inside lane every time when you're in the box, he gets Fung gets turn. He doesn't feel inside elaine's issues. You need to find if giraffe, Jeff, Lauren, what is your best defensive midfielder play him. There don't play him in a three-man back line that Martina was overwhelmed tactically the first time where I said strong statement that may allows this game for Atlanta. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa, let's take it from there and you know what? I'm a little upset with myself right now. I should have. This has been a good week to get Chris Armas on the show. Maybe do that next week. We've done red bull enough favors tell them so much Tyler desert and they deserve to be spoken to know, I know. But every time one of their guests comes on here, they keep killing. We gotta give other other fan bases. The other teams chance. Okay, so you're right. You're right. We'll be created with that. And we have been very, you know, Mexican. You know what I want. You know what I thought was interesting. Got it. Also Saudi now the Paraguay coach, Paraguay, nationals. Paraguay's gonna have a huge MLS flavor. I wanted to get into that a huge MLS player. I mean, just this game alone, you had the Toby Alba dul national Argentine-born. That's big. That's a big detail that South America. This is a team that was in the quarterfinals of the World Cup. It's a huge detail. Mex- doesn't why I'm bringing it up to you. Oh, yeah. I should have thought of it should beat to the punch. You didn't? I did not. So let's look at who the players are. You have be Alba. You have got who's Argentine-born Paraguayan as well. You have Miguel meet on in this game, you those three just being on the same team is scary to me like, wow, they're going to have cause AB could cocoon ultimate on coexist, you think? Absolutely. Good players can always go necessarily. Messy de DiBa apparently could not coexist stop it. That's that's. That's, that's. That's the comparison. I would say, let's go through this list flavor. This is only the current list. Keep in mind. Their other players are for your calf flavor that are going to be in there. You have a Bob log latte who wasn't called up, but he's the best defender league Menkes. Then you have Bruno Valdez who was called up for this game. You have, let's see. Christian potus MLS who was called up. You have who's Medina New York City of see who was called up. You have Victor viata. You have me get on me, don't you have cou? You have to who plays for 's Argentine-born as well? Yes. Celia Mingas place where America you have up top. Christian coleman. Yeah, I can't believe he got called up, but Lord about going, you're getting getting a little deep. It's very Kathy to it from cuddles or Saudi, and this is a very young team. Wow, they've got some you talk about swell, having some youth and being scary going forward. What about Paraguay? They're going to have some people running at you from that midfield. Very good. Playmakers coming midfield. God's soda. Yes, some toys is this little. Yeah, qualifying we'll be problem. So saying that Paraguay jersey. 'cause I'm just saying, man, I'm I, I enjoy. I enjoy youth. The young attack in prospect, hey, what I watch a World Cup and I see guys MLS because of look our connection to the league and its Aaron our country to see that there's a, there's a sense of pride and fulfillment when I see it. So vic- Paraguay trot out at the twenty twenty two World Cup. And I see four guys, five guys involve. They have less couple or league mex-. That's cool because that means our region is is in the big time it's growing. Is region is showing that it's got growth listening. Let's not compare what Goebel UEFA, but it's growing is to be night and day with that. You get all the players from either South America Europe, the European leagues, and that's it. I'm telling you, man, this is a, this is a team that's that's scary projection going forward. One godless Odio say what you want about one godless. Odio he does his things what he does his own thing in the late. In the later they did this. He knew this was this was a good gig for him. Wow, I empowered. It's going to be qualification is always difficult comfortable, but this group and the very good chance they don't qualify. Of course, it's comfortable only five qualified. Well, you know, depends on who they'll have to play against CONCACAF or Asia playoff game. I should have six in, although out of this World Cup able being thirty two executive thirty, two European teams, if you're a brand through the rest of the world. Okay. So. Anything was wanna talk about this game. I want to get to this, these lists. Yeah, we'll get Martina. We could get dull little bit deeper. Amount, the tactics, but I mean, you kind of spelt it out pretty well there do you think? I don't. I don't know. I believe all the momentum's with the rebels right now. I think it's good that we the playoff system works because you get these teams to to sit into all. And I look at the teams behind New York City of c. have to fix a lot of things to be able to be one of these teams. Now, it's doors, race, Columbus, Philadelphia, not. I don't know. I don't think there's going to be up. I think this year you get one to max if I can go back, I don't wanna keep addressing dot com every week. I will say this. Okay, it's it's almost embarrassing. How if something comes out of the board at this, the consider? Well, that came from the porta. They don't take it. Describe out of serious, take each individual for who he is. If one individuals been wrong before take that with a grain of salt, make your own decisions. But this individual at amount beta this reporter, this credible figure in that we have he standing by spokesman personal. He's standing by what he says. He says. The Marino is leaving. These made up his mind that keeps telling the local press in Atlanta. He laughs it off. I am telling you there is something there. This has been. It's been heating up in Mexico. This Martino talk, and I would have said it would have been a certain either going for them. Now, the reaction they have had over the Martino is interesting to me in might change that. Marino is a very capable figure. He's coached multiple national teams. He's coached the Paraguay national teams because Argentine national teams, coach bodice alone, Knowles different categories news. He's very, very capable coach. When his name came up as an option for Mexico, the fan base went nuts reaction was immediately negative. I wouldn't always be negative. No, I wasn't all that would be the guy. I was just an all overwhelming choice Mexican team by the fan base. In many pundits actually is in my Alameda the still the overwhelming choice. But to discredit what that has done as a coach and say, he's not good for your national team has just in the same. It's crazy. It's embarrassing, but the reaction has been over well, I don't know. This may or may not sway the EPA math. Federation's federations mind. He, I mean, look to under sell. The appeal of that Atlanta gig is is folly. That is a great clubs doing the right way has deep pockets have some really good resources. They've done what they he's asked and it's paid off. There is a fan base, unlike any other, this is this is they can punch back if it gets to that, and they could certainly convince them no down. I think there's that has to be saying, look, I got something really good here here for long time. I I'm, I'm getting up during. Here's this is comfortable. Think about what's more comfortable if your day to day with a club team or a national team game national team management is for the birds. I don't understand why anybody wants to do it. Well, if you're at that age, maybe it's just easier for you. Say, I understand what you wanna do it, but insurance situations, it's like it's the payoff is one Gatos audio lived in colo- Columbia the whole time he was. Coach in the Mexican national team. So it's easier for you and your family. If you have that job as as opposed to the day to day of being with the club team, the pressure of being with the club team. Listen, it makes a lot of sense for him to want a national team gig. There is there are still national teams looking for coach and very interesting projects. Columbia being one of them for him. He has his pick. I would say. I believe at an buddy one, these as there's something there do not discredit this individual. Do not. And what is doing, what any same coach would do would say, I've got a Kurt contract as all. I'd talk all I wanna talk about and probably make whatever comment to keep things focused on the task at hand. But there's something there. Right? There's a little go. We'll leave it there and. We'll revisit. This is a topic that were going to be looking at a lot from this point forward. 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I love the debate about where you put the keep where the goalkeeper's fall, but you know what? I love. I love how nobody had DaMarcus Beasley in our top five DaMarcus Beasley wins an open Cup. And then people like, oh my God, everything done top five all time. There was a lot of easily love the train max Broncos you didn't have on. I did not. And that's the way it remains. I'm sticking by my list, but we have them up, but we have another list. What's interesting you brought this up and I got very excited. I was up last night looking at salaries and this that and the other and appearances. And what's going on, love how you brought up salaries because this is what people equate this into into, I guess, responsibility right? I mean, I looked at some of it. I saw some of the when I looked at the salaries and you revisit when they released the salaries and look at some of the team salaries and I'm like, we got a. Some that's been a little bit more money little more coined, right. You know, it's gotta get there and you got a match or if the top clubs wanted blow the top off and start spending, that's another discussion that's going to have to be made pretty Susannah. Remind folks out there in this list are players we'd like to see get a second chance for next keep stay. We'd like to see them in Major League Soccer, but in order for damn those in order for that to happen, they need a big October so that their the postseason is why. Nicely poised. Right. Okay. And I came a few names and there's a lot about one and one. Yeah, let's go. All right. Go ahead. You go first year one, who's your I? I don't have them in any particular order? No particular order. Okay. But that's let's start with the biggest name I have there. Okay. It's Dhabi via. Who's been injured a lot, what's yes. I would like him to stick around. That's why I'm on this list is blamed for his contract, not necessarily, but I think he's playing for his career. I think he is. He's probably gonna mull retirement if things don't go well and New York City. If see, this is the breakthrough was we, I think last year was year and then they lose to the crew. And I'm like, wow, that's a step back. So it doubled up in here comes as may the, you know, here comes Maxine Mon allies. And is there I shroud e? Yeah, they have a group. They go this team and go over and they've lost touch with the top two. And I don't think they're gonna. Forget that touch. However, because of the injuries coming in, if Dhabi vehic can come here and find that Dhabi via form, then we can be inspired, maybe New York City of c can really put a wrench into the works of the postseason knockout one of the top two, if not both of them along the way and get to that MLS Cup, which they feel allude to them the last two years. So I think if he comes in October, I think I could put the pressure on Medina think if Medina doesn't deliver, he could be in another league Mazzi motor. Well, there's reason those rumors about, I mean, even listen. You get one hundred and w the rain. I'm just saying, but I could have said Medina a maximum big. Would you relax? All right. But I go with the guy the top Dhabi vian I think if things don't go well, I think he's in a look and say, yeah, I'm gonna call it if he gets an inspiring Tober and they don't. I think that might be enough to bring him back. Let me let me start with Medina's like nineteen years old. And he's been a great player for new city of seeing great investment and maximum up until the coaches Grange was having a MVP caliber season. You're insane Dhabi via. That's right, man. I know he makes what is five point six million dollars a year and he's only played twenty one games this year, but in twenty one games he's played, he's he has twelve goals. Five assists one of those thirty nine hundred created in those games. But what if he doesn't deliver in October wears Dhabi via his equity that he's built up until now? I think I think people are going to say they're diabetes is never gonna cross their mind, at least in my eyes. I know that take Bredow says back just from this name, but this is outlandish diabetes here. We're making rules with this thing right out how the game is played. The game is played man. There's a lot at stake in October career could be on the line and say, this is I can't do it anymore. Fine. We'll let the max and listeners decided you may have a point with may decide this is not worth. It could be. I don't think that'll be the case. I don't think this is our w v wants to walk away from the game. I agree, but listen, the things don't usually end well, otherwise they won't end here's no particular order. Here's a name, win it, throw out at UK. Yep. You read. You ready? I'm ready Darlington Nagbe. That's a great one. Man. I'm not gonna argue that at all. Darlington Nagbe be make six hundred and five six hundred plus thousand dollars a year. Darlington. We has one assist Twenty-one. Chances created zero goals. Thirty six tackles twenty interceptions whatever that makes the tackle count. But what I'm telling you is I'm injury in the second chance because he's had a slight injury that in the position he's played all year is not his. I wanna see Darlington Nagy assume that responsibility in more offensive role even if it is with Atlanta United, and they've got other players who are better than go somewhere else. Whatever it may be. But when you play that deep lined position at times that he's played and you give him the v. defense responsibilities that he has had as not giving him an opportunity to really be the player. We expect them to be. I think Darlington Nagy not only this Tober, but next year is a maker break season for him. I don't think this is Darlington Nagbe e that we would like to see that needs to be seen. This isn't a his peak and I'm going to go. Now I'm gonna let the role. I'm gonna let our lists play out before I get into depth this, but I think there's a, there's a situation to be said that the players just not the right fit at that team and nag lease. Never felt like it was there. Maybe it hits finally, but it's always been that just doesn't work well when he's when he wasn't there, they were doing. They were doing okay. They're doing great, but just hasn't fit. There's going to be other guys that I would consider that, then I don't think they're, they're bad. They maybe work in a different system better. And I would also this about Atlanta. I think. They are in a situation where they would move quicker than most teams to get the right fit because I don't understand much Darlington Nagbe plays where he plays with Atlanta. He's got to be much more advanced role, eight role, whatever. If you want to do a double eight. But the way they play, he's usually the guy hanging out and letting the I'll on meet on and just Martinez do their thing, and it doesn't really get to involve them. He's got one assist and zero goals. Darlington Nagy is not wanna sister a goals. I know he's never been a whole lot of production value at the end of it. But you look at Darlington Nagy of old with Portland, and he's a much better version of this Darlington Nagbe that we see stuck in a defensive structured role, so to Nagy October and whatever comes next for Atlanta. This is a player who I'd like to see get a second chance for next season and really show us who he is. Hi, go ahead. I mentioned the clubs that really they might have the the short fuse to make that change. I don't know if the Montreal impact our but Ignacio Piazzi. This is a great opportunity for him. In October. He's a big earner Ignatio Piazzi to come in and resuscitate Montreal who right now are feeling DC United coming down. I wasn't even mentioned. I mean, Wayne Rooney, Sebastian salaries are in your if Wayne Rooney is great as he's been if they come flat October, no, make the playoffs. What was it? All four Paseo was right. You guys are Sebastian would be right? You think I think DC United? Are this who's your who's your who's name? She'll be all right. Don't say any other names when you say one name and that's it. I like to, I'd like to squeeze the fruit real good PR. These been really disappointing. This is. It's not being good enough for that any fades and then some big games. I got a, I got to see him stamps when you're done so I can come in. Okay. I think this is the time where he can do it in Montreal were in the postseason, but now it's feeling very, very dicey in part because of what these UniteR doing. So there's it put the hammer down and October Ignacio and show that show that you can be a leader with that team makes the plants. They can make some noise and then he could stick around because I like him. I love. He's beautiful player. You are not understanding this extra is at all. The Nacho man Piazzi four point seven million dollars in. They're all well worth it. He is the face of that franchise. He's a top player in this league Maximiliano Bredow he's got player might be out of the postseason no matter you got thirteen goals. Eleven assists on that team that Montreal team. He's a top five player in this league. If anybody on that team doesn't need to prove anything. It's Ignatio Nacho man PIN gotta bring it on home. No, you got a month to do it. Pal. -greeing it on home. I understand. Now go get, get on the road and win. You hate older players. No, I just wanted. I'd I'd feel the pressure on older players. Well, there is truth that I go look, if you're a little bit older, I go. That's let's see. Piazzi I can't sit here and wait. You got happening. It's not happening. I gotta give the young guy a chance. You're acquainting these salaries and not realizing they're getting paid for what they've done. A lot of money. It doesn't have a salary this almost the entire team. They've built this equity, these two players WBZ a nasty Pieta. You've mentioned that I'm of the franchise just players in this also included. You mentioned the key when we talked about this was like October, and I said, October feels like baseball. So Tober Montreal. There are teams that are disappointing there off the back wheel, and that's all you're talking about teams that's that's over if you wanna take it down there. That's fine. I have no problem with you taking. I wound Piazza. That's just the name that Montrose not gonna pay wanna pay that kind of money, someone star player. Let the people decide. We'll let the people decide. Okay, you want my next one. Yeah. My next one is CJ. It's Carlos j upon. He said, his first name was Carlos Sydney. Want or is it Charles one CJ Sapone yes. Jason pong makes one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars, which is a two hundred and twenty five thousand dollar increase from last year we had a career. You're a banger banner year to this year to only have four goals to assist twenty chances created. He's a player who I really like, why think deserves a second chance who needs to show us what he's about? Because I think Montreal, I'm sorry. I think Philadelphia will have something to say about that playoff race. He's playing in a position now. That's not as central. He's playing out wide now. He needs to get back to his productive ways. It's very difficult because the way he's been playing in where he's been playing has been working for Philadelphia, but this is a player that we cannot sleep on. We don't have a plethora of attacking American players in this league last year. He was one of the few players that raised his hand and really wave the flag for the. I don't wanna say young. For the American player. He got his money, he needs to back it up. Now with production, you are an offense and player. He's a friend of the max and her podcast, which is why he is getting this second chance cold blooded. No, I love me CJ supplying. I wanna see him get back to where he is there. Thank you. And I want you that's the through line here. The players that I listed and you're listening. I think our guys it we're pulling for it. We like and right want to stick around. Right. I wanted to stick around. I want that via, but I think October is key for them to deliver because he got his his money in production went down. That's that's good criteria flag so so I wanna see, geez upon keep getting more money. I wanna see my homey get more, but I wanna see him do work here for you. CJ Carlos Carlos James Carlos James or or is it Charles swan? I don't remember what barrels supple. All right. Who's your third. You ready for this? Yeah. Jonathan does Santos. I'm going to let you finish. You laughing, snoring, you tell me you tell me when I can come in go, are you laughing or snow him doing either go? What was that sound? That was like a collective side that in my mind, that's a collect was that was that? Was that a b. side of the air supply or something? Yeah, Saive my mind. We went gold and Denmark. Right. I'm feeling Jonathan dough Santos. Now your I think that's why Geos not in here because I don't have faith there. That's got that that I don't want back-back season. Jonathan Santos. When I watched last couple of games he played, he is doing things like what Michael Bradley does, where he's he's becoming a great support player and because of that and possession the back line of the galaxies being protected. So Jonathan does not Santos. I've seen that breakthrough, but that if they wanna make the postseason and they can I, I am confident that the they will continue to score goals with the guys at the front. I think they have all that moment. I can't really pick on any of the centrebacks scale, Vic shelving we could do it, but he's not playing. I don't pick on any center, but I liked Jonathan Dasani can be the umbrella that protects and at the end of the season I, it's because his hard work that we made the postseason. He helped protect that back line. He helped win ball that could get Latin LS Andrine and Camara the goals that we have to invest in him again in the future. But it's key that the goal, the defense remains intact and I'm gonna give him that. Responsibility and they make the postseason which they can down the stretch. So Jonathan does on number three on my list and I go, yes, you're not allowed to talk. I'm going. You are crazy join, although Santos in spite of who we has playing around him in spite of Perry kitchen in spite of Siani and scale, Vic, and that abysmal back line, he's played twenty games, four goals, two goals, crazy amount of chances created twenty six hundred defensive deep line defensive role slot done. Everytime join gets the ball immediately perks up and makes a rung in spite of everything he has around him. He's been the one bright spot and especially when you when you add to figure in who the dumpster fire that has been the galaxy, I cannot believe you put his name in their name that you put his name, I talk. No, I'm not done yet. I'm not done yet. Jonathan does son does, and by the way, cheap shot on Giovanni does on those. We just we literally just named one player donate anybody else. I can't believe you called out. This don't is because galaxy I understand not allowed talking might time. I think my. And then I'll let you talk. Max, I love you, but this is a chief shot. This is cheap. Even I can't believe you brought in John Doe scientists. Are you serious? Georgia? The Santos has been a bright spot for me with the LA galaxy and to demand more. He's not making crazy amounts of money. That two million, which is still, I mean crazy for us, but not not to where he's at equivalent of the rest of the league. It's insane to me. I think he's done enough where he can get injured or sit down a day and not play another minute of this season. And you still say, I want Joe back. Go ahead. I think GIO, it's just not a good fit. It's not working, but Jonathan does Santos is that guy. I give guys a lot of responsibility. I give these guys responsible because they are the stars and they have to raise their game. So that's why put them on there. I'm not gonna. I'm not. I'm not going to sit here and talk about Perry kitchen because he's not going to. I don't think he's going to play that role in October that does onto skin to put the team over the top. So I'm a big game. Hunter we're going to, you are, well, we'll let the people decide they always do on. We will be both. We both could be wrong and they could bring on it and their name, which is fine. Here's my last. Here's my last name. Okay. Okay. And he's a friend of the maximum podcast. Wait a minute e. Got some Intel that it would be a certain player, but I don't think he can classify him as a. Front carry on. All right. He's the ginger ninja as well. Axenionak sacks McCarty seven hundred thousand dollars. He's got zero goals to assist for an abysmal Chicago team. He's been injured. Can this right? He's been injured a lot of this year. I'm almost certain that team needs to be blown up from top to bottom for them to just fresh start. I wanna see him back in the fold. I wanna see that he's healthy that he's a Dax McCarty that we know he's the decks McCarty that we'd love. He's not going anywhere. I mean not maybe out of Chicago, but not out of Major League Soccer known, not at a major league teams would love to have him. I wanna see Chicago. I wanna see him thriving. So he's a player. This is a strange picker. Why is it a strange pick? What? What could what can happen in October for Chicago spoil things for some teams? That's the one team where all the players are playing for their lives, correct. But. I mean, they're not going anywhere. We go a clear coach that going to change the Malays around that. No listen to coach. This is this is probably the US MS nationals best best version. The coach may be gone. Okay. Coach, we'll probably be gone. There could be a change in in the direction they go with the GM and president of that team personnel is gonna be wiped out. It's going to be restructured. I think that's a that's already lost cause I think that's that's why it acts McCarty is a viable choice. I mean, the amount of games he's been injured who's he's a player who's up there in age is in his believes thirties, you have to see Dax McCarty. Now, especially for an American player, committing this salary figure, there aren't too many teams. They're going to be like, all right, we'll take over that salary if they don't know what they're getting. So he's a player for the podcast, the needs to have a big October. Okay. I just think with the Chicago's a little bit off the path I, there's not going to be that many important games. If I mean there's all important for these players, these players. I think there's a lot of guys that we already know it's it's not it's not happening. It's just been that disappointing season for the fire that they have to. They have look closely and a lot of guys are a little bit older European-based players. Maybe they go different more MLS Centric direction. I don't know. But by the way, one American one player that I think it was on both our list didn't crack top that he was as he cared about. Yes, and I wanna follow up on. I thought you had him on this. That's why I didn't put him. I was gonna replace possibly with Kiel Barco because and I put Andrea Horta belly of senior. These are guys that are talented are in demand worldwide, but haven't been and they're young and you want to be patient, but then MLS you can't be based on how you're going to pull the plug on aurthority. They have to find a place because you're such an investment on the. EP and so forth. I mean, it makes sense with can I tell you why it makes sense that they have to decide on him quickly. So you bring him in four goals to assist you had the scandal with his teammates, the opt appealed issues that cost him some playing time. He makes one point four million dollars a year. They brought him in for fifteen million dollars plus with consideration. So in in the end day, has thirty percent of future transfers before December twentieth two thousand nineteen. So it's in their best interest for both clubs if they sell him before December twentieth two thousand nineteen after it's ten percent in in the end this they may be pushing for that cell. So that's why put both those guys in there because I think they have to show signs in October that they don't want us. They don't want to sell these guys. They wanna keep them. They want to develop, they want. I want to go. I got to sold them what I've seen. And if you can recover some of that fifteen million, you do it with Elliot, c with raw Diego Rossi. He's kinda wreck of these other guys. Here we go LA because he's a young guy that's get it and plays at tournament. You say is going to be foundation. The podcast. No, actually talking about, look, I'm being critical player and I'm being complementary of another. I'm just saying the young players with a lot of pressure have to show signs. I think October's huge for both those too, the old and you hate the young. I hate the world. And I hate young, listen. And sure our listeners will have their own players who they said, we should have been on the list. Honorable mention. I had David ACOM. I had Tony China who's no longer with the league, but he's still on a high paycheck. You know, Justin mayor middle class. Yeah, because it was the most realistically they're not. They're not covered by these high contracts that prevent other teams from taking them. So I'll just say my three again. Dhabi via, and we'll put this out on social WB. Piazzi Jonathan dough. Santos. In your three were Darlington the ginger ninja in Sapone, ginger and CJ Sapone voila. By the way to three, I really known are great. People like Dax is Dax is quality people as qualities. You can get same thing with CJ, which is why this list is a second opportunity. I'd actually is not that he's gonna retire, but this is a guy think has a lot of options because of the position he plays. I'm sure he could keep the tires on being a coach and that. Oh, man. Chettri max this season Larry's on social media, and there's a guy could be hamming make things maybe this and Tam, and GAM make things difficult for the American for the American player. So it's a high salary that you have to come in. The comes into play. I don't know, man, I do not know they've got the car stacked against them, which y focused American in this list. I agree. That's probably more realistic. I kind of a little different direction because I think there's pressure to say, all right, maybe it's maybe we gave it a good run. We gave it a good running Natsios leagues in say, we'll eat up that million. Yeah. Okay. Come on, man. This is this is a LA La Land discussion anyway. This is nicer death. Oh boy. All right. Well, there you have it. All right. That was fun. Yeah. 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Go to stamps dot com before you do anything else. Click on the radio microphone at the top of the homepage type in max, that stamps dot com. Enter max. All right, Mark. Jesus America that is obviously the game in Mexico. The grabs everyone's imagination. The two most popular, the two best supported clubs there, and it ended one one. Compelling stuff, certainly, and miss penalty at the end for a medical could've put it over the top. It didn't get in. But obviously this is a game. Everyone gets really excited for you. Included course classical Nacional. This is what it's all about. This is the biggest game of the year. Obviously, I believe last week we spoke about classical radio. Now the violence that occurred and how often field issue surpass, what was on the field. And this was nice to see none of that happened. None of that happened. It was a very thrilling emotional game. Few things happened in the game. We got backtrack before, I guess, which is always always when we talk about these teams about, okay, so these they played in COPA mex-, right. Both were eliminated. It was a historic result for Puma. Yeah, against Jesus thirty six years. They'd haven't been beaten Chiba. In a way game. So government makes just for big clear. This is the correlating tournament FA Cup US open Cup lash thing though. Correct? So this is still they still have not beaten them in league, but it would. I mean up until just recently, they hadn't beat them in Cup or league. So first time in my lifetime that we've that I've seen that and these teams are very close to the finish line, so trophies within reach. That'd be big for anybody. You don't wanna get knocked out, Chiba loses to boom us. And then a Medicare lose to what is. Yeah. So second division team. So that's as they lost in penalty kicks. And now that you always a flip side of that as you say, hey teams to focus, there's issues with losing that that very stage, and that's going to be hugely disappointing for these teams and look, you're getting to the business and here and now you have to. But there is the ability now to focus in on making the playoffs America's there there. I mean, Crusoes had this great season America's now escorting them a little bit at the top for me, Chievo us. I mean, they were deal away weeks ago so they get the point here. They rescue it late and their their ninth. They are ninth and they finish. They have a good October. They're gonna get into this postseason. I think that you look at the playoff format, it could be really, it could be really exciting with the teams that are in there. You could have if us makes it could be one of those historic things because I think you have all the big names there from cruise vessel to America this month today plumas and they can have it. So Jesus to me is is really invigorated the league, but. Gotta finish the job here, but I like I like the path they're headed on, but they need to get the result because we've, we've been crapping on that Jesus alone. It's funny though rightfully so I, if you talk about the two biggest teams in the league, everybody's gonna say, I'm Eddie Cheever hands down the two biggest teams in the league in your spirit and your changing that discussion. Well, it's here, here's what it is. So let's let's go back to go by monkeys. And people are very quick to jump all over America. And for good reason, you know, they lose to a second vision team at home, and they asked me a letter reporter, Lynn, Linda, who's here at ESPN ask them, what would you have done differently? If anything? What was your mistake tactically? And he said, the only mistake I made was sending believe us Carlos a kid to hit a penalty kick in the shootout. He shot like number three and missed and nothing happened, but went on after you've Atta who was the shooter? I believe MRs one of the most experienced players on the field Columbian Colombian player when he misses and they lose the game. I didn't hear me say it was because of that. Guy? No, he shows the young Mexican kid 'cause he was easy target, which to me is a big, no, no one. You don't air your dirty laundry out in public. You don't know the kid under the bus for the world to see like that. You lost confidence within the group immediately when you did that. So you already had that cloud hanging over you leading up to the classical Nacional. She goes on the other hand. Surprised a lot of us and I know you including because we didn't expect. I mean, my leaves because he wanted three reinforcements and instead of getting three reinforcements, they had to leave the starting goalkeeper. They had vowed unease go to Europe starting centerback and they had their best player beside or go to Mont Monterrey. That was weird. So he, he asked three players, three players left and here incomes gotta though. So, and he gets at Buller that Mattia lunar e gets points coming back from his loan, spell very underwhelming, crop of players game. Anqing from Bouma's on-loan very underwhelming crop of players. I love that name and you're drinking and you're thinking to yourself, they've got no chance. Wow. What happened to this team money issues issues with management Baco Avondale, Dan, that leaves as sporting director. There's all these issues with the and the ownership group hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Gotta people are talking about his health. Is he healthy enough to even have the team? He's just sell it. So these, I guess, contrasting trajectories you have a Medica keep spending money. He's bringing in players, you have cheetahs no money and they're doing what they can with these players. So when the beginning of the season starts, nobody gave us a chance all of a sudden they're within playoff contention and they're celebrating a tie, and you're like, wow, I, at least in my mind, I'm thinking she was popular team, but what happened with this powerful it Kibogoya in the that was Chiba like we treat us in America differently. Now, you know, the expectations are much different because of their current situations. But if that's the case, at least in my eyes, she was losing a little bit of that prestige. They're only a popular team and I believe they're only popular team for sentimental reasons for that romantic a minute come on. We mean come on. They, I think we could give them a little more credit why they've been. They've been good. I think they've won loss in six or seven to get back in here as as to the points that you made their fighting team. Now, I'm big picture. Yeah. I mean, this may feel a little oriental talking, big picture. I know talking big business Chiba they could have slid right off the back here to the point that you mentioned. Players. This is what I'm saying. The only reason the only reason we're giving them that. I guess that by on this is because of that. But when you talk about big teams in Mexico, these big teams don't have these type of hiccups because they could just Brank roll the next. She was isn't there anymore. She was hasn't been there. You, we have to address it. There hangs up a handcuffing process about signed me said, there's no one to get their lack that they've been able to push it in kind of resuscitate. Their team does doesn't slide idle. They don't just see what happens and get by. Well, they must have known something. They must have known something they are doing well and the same thing that handcuffs them. I believe in deers themselves with the Mexican fan base, this us versus them mentality. And we, we have to repeat as that. That'll never change that policy because that's what makes them the most Paul radical, but it handcuffs them and put them in a position whether a handicapped in a way where they can't. Sign just anybody. Listen, wouldn't go line to line the goalkeeper the starting back line, the midfield line, the forward line. They don't have one player who's the best Mexican player currently. This is genius. She was used to be the base of the Mexican national team. Not only do they have not one player who is a Mexican best Mexican player in any line. He plays in a broad, but they don't have that illegal. The best Mexican players don't play for us. Yeah. And now there's a competition to get these masks Mexican players specifically from Major League Soccer and even exactly guys, so they're, they are in a dilemma, huge dilemma. And people give this team, I guess the past because of the nostalgia that is chief us the golden years. Cheetahs the big, listen. Let's keep things in reality. Cheetahs is a very, very popular club not only in Mexico. They may be the most popular club in the United States. It's very simple. It's very simple numbers will tell you when the Premier League happens and it's Man, United versus arsenal. The numbers may get into these seven or eight hundred thousands for big game. Okay. When it's mid week, COPA, amac, cheetahs versus medi. The second. Vision, almost outdraw double of what that game will do. It is insane. The marketing machine is chiefs. They are the most popular. They them in America could be the most popular teams not only Mexico, but in the United States, they are a very popular club, but people confused being a great there. History, at least it was disaster. I'm sorry. I mean, there's very well supported team. We are weakened weak out when they're there and that support you see it everywhere I saw I was driving around LA I was going to. I was at Ladas restaurant there on in six chiefs jerseys with everywhere. Of course they're everywhere and people compete. Listen, let's take a look at the the game, for example, gotta though. So this is the biggest club coach by far and he's been doing a very Admiral job. I actually think he's, we should commend what we should really state obvious. He's done more than any of us thought he'd do without go to Nino's getting done correct. And if they make playoffs, anybody has a chance as soon as your implants at different animal different beasts, we understand that. But you look at the expectations and the attention at failure when it comes to Medica and there is the difference. The pressure Megan at as a has a chance to win this game. America has a chance to win this game last second in the game, and it's my sales or. Even the Colombian international play World Cup yet who steps up and misses a penalty kick to Gordon you within your saves. It game ends. One one. I land Lido which is the most expensive Mexican player there is today. Yep. In league. I make. But my but is not necessarily the best player scores. Miguel, Loretta immediately goes on the defensive and he's on a warpath, blaming the referees. He's saying how he doesn't understand why would he is the one who shot it because it was supposed to be Roger Martinez. And if you look Roger, Martinez had a bit of a shocker in that game. He didn't really play a wind up, but there were few players who played while the young two young kids for cheetahs in the middle played exceptionally well. It was an even game exciting game into end. But for him to single out, waiting for him to go down that route, especially after what he just did the Vargas mid week, you should just shook your mouth, no better. Like what are you doing? It was well, let's say it's endless with that sad to see. And then you get the Matias Oti bet he missed a penalty kick versus England. You know, he's not good in high pressure situations. Don't do not confuse a World Cup knockout match what they league game. Please settle down, calm yourself. But he was player under the bus. Again, the pressure for America is greater than it is for Cheever's, which which leads me to believe not only the more popular than just as popular, but they are a bigger club because he expectations are bigger. Well. I again, all this credit, but it is it tough situation, but it's better than it was. Then it was a little bit of what I would do. He crashed his Carl, he's doing an interview. Oh my God. That was hilarious. Dude, either reaction was great. He drives a test lab and as soon as he hit the side of the curb very, he was like a twenty inch curb. I don't know why they have that high outside these facilities did the same thing and lightness did the same thing in as many, many Cooper, you understand that 'cause it's a mini, but it's a tesla. They don't grow on trees in Mexico. By the way they're growing on trees out here in LA. They're like priests out in LA, hey, you wanna know him. That was disappointing during this game, and I've never been one to harp on, you know, go on a rant or whatnot. What what? I, I do go on rants, but on this subject there was a play where OD in pay ADA go up for a header and a crash, but the splits top of his head and he's immediately bleeding. And you go to jail beta who's on his back and he's rolling around, but only the waist down and the camera. It's like that's spidercam comes over the players in the medical team, and you see his eyes and they're going all over the place and you're like, oh my God, I immediately. I thought they were trying to get his tongue out so he doesn't swallow his own tongue. These compulsions or something his is you can tell he seemed stars and you're like, he's not right. And the next thing you know is what he becomes out. He gets quick stitches. They bandage him up nj, but he doesn't know where he is and you're like, there's no way he's coming back in and throw them immediately back into the game yuck. And it was it merely set up a set up set off a reaction in in the social media landscape in Atlanta America where everybody is watching this game was I can't believe he's going back on and you see vs all what a warrior look it and get back on their from pundits from fans. And I'm just in disbelief and I'm like, listen, I. Tweeted out, this is sickening. There needs to be a concussion protocol, put in place in his to be the team. Doctor cannot just ask you how you feel you. I put in quotations. Tell them how you feel you have to air on the side of caution, correct sent if you see something like that. Probably to make it simple, the guy should not go back in, no, but it was outta ten times. It was amazing. The response on social media, a lot of it for support, but then flacco out about is who played with me in Seattle who's now in Argentina plane. He tweeted a response at me where it's common in Latin American culture to this mentality of you leave everything on the field. You die for the team. This mentality of you go back and you do what's best for the team for the team without consequence of what's going to happen in the future, which is wrong. He said, he's like, this is a mentality we have to change which I'm one hundred percent in Mexico and Latin America say it's still very taboo. They feel like if you can't physically see it. Where if you can't see physically on an MRI or an x-ray Ray a broken bone or a pulled muscle that physically shows you. So you can evaluate the timetable that it doesn't exist. These head injuries don't exist. You are soft is the mentality. This has got the change. Well, it's just getting a little bit in the United States. We see that a lot still. I mean, I'm always shocked because I think we were, we overcame that and there's still moments like what's no. You gotta be kidding me more more often than not it does, but there's still those episodes where they go win and you're like, that guy was out cold two minutes ago? Yeah. Listen, we see our colleague Taylor, twelve, and all the time go on social media. Voices is frustration over this, and I think it's more prevalent in Latin America. People don't understand what, why, let's get. Let's get twelve in involve that because he is he's, he's, he's a big mouthpiece on this and he knows the people. He's done all the footwork. So, yeah, we're going to let show him then span and tell these people what what's going on. Right? I think that's that's a, it's just we'll chat with him. It's it's frustrating because it's still shows you. Whereas advances the talent and the paycheck and the pay scale may be the, you are centuries away in the way you handle your talent. Yep, that's that's too bad. But all in all in Mexico, there was a I know you don't want I to say help Beddoes forty five years. I bet I was clear my throat going. I hope it is forty five years old coming in and getting a victory. That's fantastic with cruise assume. Now. No, he's not, but you can, sorry, but you could come out and get the three one win beat? Yeah, it was a good win for them. By the way I mentioned didn't mention Santos in those top spots and there are machine to your former team. So I'm already looking towards that. Postseason Cheever's gets in. It could be bananas be so much fun. Yup, but we'll see it. But before it looked before we wrap it all up. I just wanted to tell you that you were out of line with DIVY, Faisal son in your exchange that you could see on your Twitter handle. What. You know what out of line what gets me or not a journalist in I work into port, there's a lot in food becomes is the highest rate at American primetime show. There is in for the last like six, seven years is insane, and their pundits on both sides journalists and their pundits that are ex players, ex-coach's ex, you know what? Everybody kicked the ball, and there seems to be this mentality among the players that you don't know what you're talking about. You've never kicked the ball, which is wrong because you know the game never played in a high level. That's neither here nor there, and I have defended that argument like you don't need to kick a ball to know about the game professionally for certain things, but there are some things that you should leave to the ex player you you can know just from, you know, just as much about the game from never even playing the game from watching your whole life and speaking to people who have played it, you get you get enough of it. Okay. What got to me was there was this tweet by Gomez Huangpu another. You know another. Pundit ex player. From ESPN who said that? Not not that there were much more qualified. Personnel Dottino even in our own desk at ESPN talking about Monica, yoga Sanchez or Tomas. Boy, I laughed that. I laughed at that too. I laughed at that to no end. That's crazy. This was a segment spec to write dominance. So this was a segment on us Yonne and Marie so asked, are there really better options on ESPN than the Martino and he fights completely crushed these three. And I said, listen, I am not going to crush our colleagues like diabetes, and he immediately cut me off and he's like, they're not my colleagues and I said what he goes. No, I am a journalist. They are not. My colleague. Listen settled down. We talk about the same thing. We get paid to talk about it and anything they're not. My colleagues lines were drawn lines were drawn and the sharks did anything you do? Do. I said, anything you do? I do. I said, I talk about the same things you talk about. I've been offered positions to write about what you write about. I did not go to school for what you went to school, but get off your high horse. You're not a doctor where you need this type of diploma. You're not a lawyer. You're gonna put your time in her? No, not to talk about it on TV. No, you know, I will read and I get paid to talk about Latin America. This is like the that schooling and get that it's a pretty serious business. Some of the people that taught me were like from Argentina was the same thing you go in these schools of max look up the definition for this. Hot, I I am because max and this goes for you as well. Anything you can do anybody anybody off the street can do. Put your guess you can. This is true, but you gotta put your time in every. It doesn't matter. We're still colleagues. Yes, we do the same thing. Same thing I upset. I wish I wanted to pull that with you. Wait a minute. Hark. What you know come, you're not. You're not my colleague. We're colleagues, I guess. So screwed acting here. Like we're saving lives. We're a cop or where Dr where lawyers, serious, serious business pal, come on, walk, walk off, walk off night, max, and her podcast. I love you max. Okay. Colleague, I'd love you to man. I really enjoy our time here. These was a fun show. I enjoy my joy. All the show. This is I enjoy. I really enjoy. This was a good chat. He's a good way to sort of air out stuff that we saw this weekend and it's a good outlet for me. I know I'll be. I do do appreciate it. So maximum podcast, lot's of love here subscribe. Some comments, please, and rate us, we'll be, we'll continue. We're gonna have it. We'll we'll be back next week. We have a lot to talk about. We are. We gonna do that. Save the cruise show. I don't know. We're trying to get it going. We've had some roadblocks. Gotcha. Understood. Understood. Lots of roadblocks, Columbus, we love you to all right. We'll see. We'll talk to you next week.

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Fun Talk: He Put a Piece of Lasagna in the Bagel

Important, Not Important

38:55 min | 1 year ago

Fun Talk: He Put a Piece of Lasagna in the Bagel

"Welcome to fund talk. My name is Quinn is Brian Calvert, Kennedy. I was talking. We started this just like we start a podcast about we talked about that. You're having some computer issues today. Yeah. I'm having some techniques actually, maybe mercury in retrograde because I'm having issues all over the place. This question my phone my computer clearly, that's not real but to like, what is that? That people say. What is this? We'll know there's some there's a real thing. Yes. There's a real thing, come on. And then and then people have taken that real thing and, and applied it to as joke except I think, actually some people probably think serious. Of course they applied it to like, normal things. Unrelated retrograde explained without astrology. The science buried underneath the pseudoscience. I don't fucking want wanna read this right now. I mean, either listen, I think there's maybe some truth as to some I've heard of heard some truth as to, like technology certain things certain technological things being affected by because the mercury's in the way of some by some bullshit. So then people be like oh, you know, my fuck, I didn't get a call back from addition fucking mercury's metro, you know, they just apply it to whatever bullshit, people don't take responsibility. It's, it's deflecting responsibilities. What it is. You know who that is? You know, it started with who baby boomers, baby boomers, fucking, just admit you ruined at all. And his Greta says, please help just how just help just help, why, why is it so hard to accept blame? What's gonna come first climate carbon sequestration? Our smoothies. Ooh. Or our new cabinet? I thought this is going to be an easy question, but it's not it's not at all. Hot. Is it? No, no, no, no, no got more complicated along. There's a lot of factors to consider. I think the smoothies, I theoretically just got pushed back one minute. Uh-huh. At some point carbon a viable, it is not scalable, or forcible, but a right up that will come and then and then we'll never ever ever get the fucking thing for my Kia ever. Nope. Nope. No chance. It's not gonna happen. Yep. Three days later. So that requires a signature incorrect. Does not left enough for them to leave it outside the office did that? No, no, no. They did not and running late and our repair. Our relation guy is scheduled to be here in seven minutes. So hopefully it comes in the next six wait, he's still coming. I've been telling him like, hey, man. I'll tell you as soon as it's here. I don't know. He's to be being a super cool sport about it. Sounds good. And I thought it was supposed to be easy because I had bought them. And so it was all supposed to be seamless and put together in beautify, don't think this problem. I think we're on FedEx at this point. Okay. Are the ones who when I called and like fucking Jeremy as Jeremy, I made a note two days ago, and you guys said it was in the system and the driver would see it to leave it at the office. And then Jeremy, Jeremy yawned yelled at me and said, hey man, I just got here, and I was like, but that you shouldn't have to manually relate a message. This isn't the night's watch. I've been apparently I've, I've been wrong this whole time. I thought FedEx was a giant global corporation. It's I think it's just one guy in an office. Yeah. Whenever he gets there. Everything starts the planes can take off the trucks can leave. But other than that, like it's dark shut down until Jeremy gets there and to be clear we talked at about ten forty five in the morning. So I don't I don't fucking know man. The deal with this ugly. I soar of refrigerator in its worst knowing that, like the replacements coming. You're just looking at it going. Get outta here. It's going to be really nice already to go. We've really made some improvements lightly around desks, I've got a desk, which is you've got Mike STAN, that's not falling off the window. We're gonna have some sound proofing in here soon have soundproofing here, which will not sound like shit anymore. A set. Nobody's ever. Listen to this podcast. Milic floral can't my ears. Can't take it. I, I do. Oh, yeah. You don't listen, though are boxes organized, they're going to get even smaller. Yeah. I feel like we're coming along. I'm going to get like a, a rap for those chords. You know you can get like oh yeah. Just a fabric that goes around you still see that. But you don't see, like I mean that's better than it was right. To find. You had a question during our wonderful conversation with Dr Catherine Wilkinson. Actually. No, it was. It wasn't during it was during the intro. It was during the intro, and you asked about introduce her as a doctor in our intro. We did not in the main show, which was an abomination. All right. That's interesting. We'll have to apologize for usually pretty good about. No, it's frustrating. Guess we'll just have to redo the whole thing. Great. Yes. That saga. Much about the tree. What was it a spaceship? That's a tree trees spaceship, from something called saga fantastic. One of the best, comics of the past ten years easily. It is a saga. It is good name, then it is sort of Romeo, and Juliet base take off point of girls should be together from there from different warring worlds. Accepted is violent and sexy Fain. It is written by. Maybe more of my two favorite comic, writers Bryan, cave on who wrote cave on that sounds familiar, man. He wrote why the last man. Oh oh, right. Which other amazing shit and the artist almost better than the writing is feeling a Staples. Yeah, it was just. Out of control the and the stuff the pages. He must send to her, and then you see what she creates are some of these things are just incredible damn. But the storytelling is fantastic. It's amazing. They're supposedly halfway through this point. Yeah. The series taking a bit of a hiatus, but you can catch up. It's fucking minutes. Oh, good. Just a space. Opera romantic. It's about reason a kid, and it's just fucked am cool. It's great. So highly recommend saga, which is like saying to people, you know. I recommend the most popular thing in the world that it's great. I. I recommend that. How? Yeah. If they are there, they spend part of their journey in a spaceship. That is a tree. I mean that sounds awesome. It's a pretty red. Wow. So, you know, I've still never read. Watchmen. Good means you read it before the show. Yes. HBO's got the show coming out, right? Graphic novels right over there. Boom, I, I have a copy of it. It's great who you have a copy, a lot of books. I just set set around sit around and they just now come on. I've been reading I've been picked up some books. I think that's. That's. Yeah. Probably. You got no dishing today. What's going on? Got me little bitch offer. What today Anna call back tomorrow and found out? Hey, now, who will was that the phone call you were taking someone who's yelling at you to do something? It was my agent, just making sure that I had my m one license because this commercial requires me to be writing my motorcycle and auto people. Get a motorcycle and this shit. Listen. I don't know what to tell you. I've been looking at trying to buy a vehicle. Okay. Other than the motorcycle. So leave me alone. I'm taking baby steps. It's just frustrating. Yeah. Yeah, yes. So tomorrow, callback is for a motorcycle company called Harley Davidson, whose that and today is for some some five can say, bojangles, hick as southern fast food, drink all bojangles. Loves bojangles of never never heard of it. You've never even heard of it. Isn't isn't that isn't there? Is there some other famous thing called bojangles? Or maybe it's I don't think Jerry Seinfeld. The character on his show. He had a puppet named bojangles. Like scared when he was a kid or something like that, bojangles. No idea, anyway, sounds fun. I'm excited to to dishes after like what is it? June six months of basically radio. Silence. So I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take the three hundred dollars. They wanna pay me or whatever horse Schiff. Let's go fucking people. I still get so mad and vent to people in random strangers all the time about your Super Bowl commercial that was not unionized for bug. Budweiser budweiser. It makes me so angry as what for years ago. More than that. I don't, don't don't, don't tell me it just drives me fucking crazy. Total, total Bs and it happens all the time, and it's happening, more and more. Hey, do you know, and I feel like I forgot to mention this, but you could probably look to calendar to last recording together until August. Listen, I saw that on the calendar. Obviously, I wanted to double check with you to make sure that was true. I also realize on my way up here that I didn't I don't think I brought the proper bags that will enable me to this is it now. I don't know. Still looks pretty big. So we're sure this is this is it is this, also the last time I'm going to see you. Unless you actually come and hang out. That's why don't we do that? I don't want our last. Being together while we're at this fucking office. Boy. I'm gone this weekend. Yep. Going out of town to run run like the wind Bren linked wind if the wind was old and hurt. All right. So I'm back where you can hang on next week. You could come up too little work. I'll be working. Why won't be recording? You hate coming. Here's he's stood again. I'm into it. Yeah. I need to catch up on some comics. There's another great. Let's see what else is good out there looking at the one hundred greatest comics on NPR right now. There's cool stuff. Here's and great. There's new Martian manhunter. That's great paper girls is another new fantastic. One that I gave on. Yeah, that's pretty far down. It's run to what's the other. Jesus, just so much all these people making all this art. Oh, last year mister miracle mister miracle fantastic run cool. I think that's out in the book now. Yeah. Some good stuff. Right. There's so much stuff to ingest. I remember when the comics allergy I launch to, you know that. So it's a company basically, it's the digital storefront and container for comics. So there's a variety of unlike DC has their own one. Now marvel I think are actually powered by comics allergy. But you can buy any comic in the world, and then you can have it, and he'll update you new ones come out and stuff like that, unless you have that you have like a digital version of it. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. And I remember and it came out years ago. Now like when the ipad first came out and everyone's like this is incredible. Remember, sitting sitting on a plane next to my wife and I told her, I was like, hey, you got check this out. You could have every comic in the world. I mean theoretically, you've access to every coming in the world here on your device and. The look on her face followed closely by the verbalize ation of the look on face, which is by every fucking coming in the world. And I was like, no, no, no thought like, oh I understand why she would think that I would do. The first night re comic in the first night of us living together after ten months of long distance. She walked in there with this little house made this little sort of back room where she basically said, you can put all your stuff in here. Just don't come out of your house. Yep. Yep. If you noticed anywhere, but that room, it didn't look like lived there wasn't on the on the voice Mus machine. Nothing fair backed years. Never sure she walked in. There's a little TV in their first night, and I was watching on the TV where you could watch eight baseball games at one screen tile, and she walked in so me like, oh, look, he's in he's here together. And then she looked at the screen and you could see on her face. I have made an enormous mistake. Look, and look at some of these great, everything is grateful. She doesn't have any regrets at all. Yeah. But you I don't understand the eight things on the screen at the same time or even four what he it's like, so I would just be spasm out trying to get it. I'm doing fantasy or something. What was the? Oh, God mean you remember like the day before that I was still working fantasy sports was my job was my job. You have to understand, like, aching on at once Jesus was like the minimum of what my office was like every. So I was in seven football leagues for baseball leagues. And I was in soccer I was in rugby. I was in hockey ball video games. I mean that was that was my job in my life. So extracting myself from that has been a hell of a process, and some of it has been necessary and forced upon me by life and time and bandwidth, but also much happier like I'm in one baseball league. It's National League only I share it still to friend of the pods. Jeff IS? All right. You guys team up right? Right. Right. Right. Because he is, is just infinitely better at it than I am and has way more time. So we pardon on that. I'm happy. I'm focusing on one roster players. I don't do football anymore because federal fuck football anyways, I do a little soccer bump terrible friend of the pod Jeff and everyone else who listens does soccer who's in our league of Franklin. Nate just destroy me and I think finished second fifty something people fool. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Knock knock got don't do hockey I only did basketball for couple years now. We gotta get you in that league next year would love to. We get ahead of it. We talk about you guys. Do you guys think traffic around state draft express a lottery auction auction? Right. Whenever I think they do auction, but keep relief to zoos going to expand it. We should get call in and we'll talk about it. People would love to kinda start doing these talks, where somebody call on will the problem is, we couldn't do it now because nobody knows right? In b? We're not recording a master. We're just recording the local because I didn't have Skype fired up in the master records through. All right. Fine ahead of time. Have you seen speaking of sports? Have you seen this Australian Football League? If he has heard about this, the rugby one, it's called AFL SaaS trillion football, there was Austrailia at the bar, where the night, we're watching basketball, and they were just like asked me all these questions, they had no fucking idea. And they were like our sport is the AFL, and they described it as basketball on a football field said gridiron Australia. They were they were just, I mean, they couldn't they loved it so much these two women, and so now I wanna watch it. And I still haven't I just was reminded of it because you were talking about all this rugby and ship. Have you ever seen it? There's a cool. Yeah. They really always funny to see like a different incarnation. Yeah. Like a tweak to or like emerging of. The sports, you're familiar or it looks like rugby is it something like rugby? It's closer to rugby meet soccer rugby, basically, is soccer with full-contact, but it's. It's faster than rugby. It's complicated rugby's, like the most difficult thing in the world to explain. It's insane but it's such a great game. I'm gonna I'm gonna wash that shit outta some AFL. It's probably ESPN plus is plus so great. You don't like five bucks a month. It just started last year. And it's like the old days of ESPN where there when they were like, how do we fill a twenty four hour sports network? I put everything on this is that except for instead of twenty four hour sports network. It's unlimited. So they're just throwing every bit of content. You can imagine on it. It's a lot of ESPN plus five dollars a month. I think it's five bucks a month. And it's just going to get better. I mean it's only like six months old, but it's fun. I mean you can find anything like my colleges hockey team games are live there on their exit somewhat. The patriot league in basically they're like, already tell they're already producing the games right locally. Right. And so is being plus just needs access to the feet Sam deal with them, and now it's on and a bunch of alumni can go. Holy fuck. I can watch this thing. Yeah. That's such random shit on there. It's great. I wonder if I can get like there's a college ultimate frisbee league that is on ESPN. Yeah. But that's what's so great. You're like TV. I'll look into getting maybe five bucks. That's nothing. Yeah. I mean it just goes right into your mid budget. I have no money. Only way to figure out. Why do you know that there's this whole? There are two people of I just keep realizing there are people who they say, I don't have any money and they mean like there's no money. They are living paycheck to paycheck, no money. And then there's always other people about, oh, I have no money and what they really mean is like they have a little bit less money than they wish. They had and they have a savings account full of money. But they like their mindset is, oh, I don't have any money or I'm not, you know, I it's amazing to me. I wish that's how I was thought. Oh, yeah. Got no money. It's all that money that I have in the savings account. My first they treat it. Like that's not money to spend, which is the right way to do it. My first day at a at ESPN. No was. When I okay. So. Graduated when lived in London work for the financial times for year, those great in, in lived in Spain in the Middle East for while spend all the money, I made the financial times, credit card like once in a lifetime, you can do the travel centre cetera backpacking came back interviewed a bunch of places in Newark couldn't get job right away. So I went to a temp agency these. They sent me up at Conde nast, the big magazine, of course, which is the time was like at the end of their, we just burn money on fucking everything saying, like every person who worked there got car service home. I mean, it's just preposterous as so I remember my first day there, the obviously, don't pay you on your first day of work. It's not like bar. With money. You're getting a check in two weeks. Right. Sounds great except for what you do. Those first thirteen days the first day, so I was living at twenty first and I you're the greatest bagel shop of all time as bagel. What's it will? It was called Essa bangel. It's gone that versions closers, one midtown. They're still the best in the world. Have. We gotta talk bagels. Okay. Yep. But my office was like, mid down, fifties, the old Conde nast building. I think they're in the new freedom tower now got so. I went to go get on the subway to come home from my first day in realized I didn't have enough money for the subway. Oh. Which is bucks at the time. Yeah. So I walk home sixty blocks. Right. Jesus yet. There was no other option. There was no bikes were no Elaine scooters, male money in my Bank account. I mean, literally had like a dial. Yeah. Okay, always ship. Then I got back and realized I didn't have any dinner. I didn't have any groceries or anything like the so downstairs was a Burger King, and I went down into it, and I tried to get to regular cheeseburgers, which those are those were like foul. Dollar. They gave me too, and they showed me the total. And I had to give one oh my God. Because I only had like eighty cents to my name. Yeah. Well, that's that's pretty bad. Yeah. I mean look again, we always try to put things in context. That's a summary of half of people living in cities, these days, much worse here in Los Angeles, seven thousand vets on the street. Good work, everybody. But yeah, that's I definitely felt the no no. I have no no money. No money. Well, it's really good to know that you were there. And you built yourself up to the great place that you are now that since barring. So tired. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, brian. How are you enjoying our experience with anchor are a new publishing platform? Man. It has been such a nice improvement. It's, it's like it's the future, like the first time I could order pizza from my phone number that life should just be this way feels like this is the future. We were promised exactly anchor has been at the light. It's free. It's easy as hell. It's everything you need to make a podcast, new one or an existing one like ours. We moved. Right. Over so easy. And it's own one place. You can record and edit. They'll distribute your podcast everywhere, Spotify, apple podcast Google. I mean all the all the places right? Yeah. And great news. He could make money from your podcast. Yeah. That's a revelation revelation. That's really nice. So get out the kids. Download the anchor app on whatever device you got and or go to anchor dot FM to get started. You are pretty tired of them. Hey have you had good bagels in Los Angeles, because I have, so yeah, I know this is controversial. I think so there's apparently place on sunset. That's really great. I haven't been SAM's. Maybe I can't remember a friend of the Allison as told me about I gotta go there. There's a western bagel that's near us. It's pretty good. And then Larry King started a place called Brooklyn water bagel. Right. Because everyone's like, it's the one, okay fine that place is actually pretty fucking good. What's weird is. It's like in the middle of Beverly Hills, but I've definitely gotten like takeout bagels from there. And I'll just freeze a bunch. They're they're really good. What's your jam? That's what I had heard my I don't really care about bagels that much. But my girlfriend loves bagels. And so I wanted to find the best place. And I heard that yet New York water bagels are broken water bagels was was supposed to be good. So I texted my buddy, he's one of my like Goto Pullen number. One. Like, if I have any questions about food and almost any city, I would say, honestly, but obviously, especially 'cause we both live here and he was like New York bagels is fine. Go to this place, you'll never go because it's so far away from where you live in, in the vast city of Los Angeles. All we in Silverlake. My god. Have you ever even been to Silverlake? Yeah. Okay. It's called MAURICE bagels. And the I mean just phenomenal. On believable, do I have to go there and a world where everything you'd be delivered God's? So could I is it worth it to get something delivered from from Silverlake to your house? A good bagel. Yeah. It was phenomenal. Really? Would you go to? They had like, I don't know. What's the rate, which your go-to bangle this one now? Okay. This is now. Oh, my God is the best babe, I've ever had my whole life, hit me cream cheese avocado radish. Like wild lead thinly sliced heirloom tomatoes on a salt and pepper bagel. Interesting. World changing. Oh my God. I was. So I was in I was in, you know, sometimes every once in a while you beat someone. It's just like whoa. I think I just had the best of something. It's a wonderful thing. Thing for longtime mine was cinnamon raisin bagel cream cheese, love it so pure and then I discovered when I lived above Esa bagel everything bagels shorter. Everything bagels are. You're a little lap just greatest fucking things on the planet. I mean, more carbs than have ever been produced any wherever the picture somewhere when people would come visit, I feel like my family and friends visited me, just for the bagels shirt picture somewhere of my brother. Can you see eating I had made like a seven cheese. Lasagna the night before my God. And he got his everything. She's he got everything bagel and put a piece he put it. I think it's our smoothies put a piece of, of the lasagna, he put a piece of the lasagna in, in the bagel and all I could think of it was like how many calories and how much how many carbs is that how much could it be? I gotta say, I thought that was gonna be the fucking dress her and I was very excited if I did you think this is the deal you have so much more than I do. I actually keep refreshing the deliveries page. I did you think waiting for it to say like couldn't deliver as close? Yeah. It's not like there's locked doors or anything. Everything is fine and easy and accessible. I'm sure that you were very clear about where to deliver. Got some worries about the race this weekend. No, this could be the last one people here. It's supposed to be ninety five. Jesus. Ninety five ru. That's not that's not good. I'm not I'm not happy about eighty five. Ninety five beds. So noses, we have an eight o'clock start time. So it won't be ninety five definite, but it's gonna be fucking hot, but it's gonna take like five how long has this one? The Saturday race will probably take a couple of hours. Okay. So it's gonna be fucking hot by the time we finish. I haven't they're just gonna be two two of the real bad. But so by the way that eight o'clock start time is earliest you can start. There's there's waves that started twelve and one. Oh, I do it. There's no way I would do it. It's, it's so unsafe. Right. Yeah. So as this could be the last talks, let the last month front survive, get the fuck outta here. Just an gonna pack my Camelback, it'd be really good about my water. My hydration ahead of time. Got a pre hydrate. During the race. And then after for sure. On a sunscreen. I'd wear a hat to get so fucking muddy. It's a mess, but bandanna is not going to keep the sun off my face visor upset on backwards. Okay. Hey, so how many how many weeks of this, my going, how many weeks not gonna see you eight year? Let's get new. My ever gonna see you again on clear. Yeah. I will be gone. The duration of the trip is about nine weeks. I'd have to come back for short work thing, depending on some things. But yeah, short work thing. All right. It will see man. What are your plans a summer do? How many vacations you taken remember like ten minutes ago? When I said, I don't have any money. Yeah, that's refunding stopped you. That's true. Remember when you took like that three months vacation, you came back. And you're like I've made an enormous mistake. It was one month and it was wonderful. Handle paying it off and also very financially. Stupid got such good times, wouldn't trade it for anything except for no debt. No, I don't have a have a lot going on here. I was gonna try to go to Austin next month. But probably won't happen. Why what's an Austin a friend, a good good friend who haven't seen in a while? Boy, probably go to Vegas for a couple of days to watch the NBA summer league watch all the rookies. And like first year, guys play that's gonna be RAD. And then there was some talk about a boy's trip with my tier one from back home. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Sure. In july. But I mean, let's get real glad you guys talk about this stuff. I got a book all these commercials. I. Then I'll do it if there's money in my hand. Then I'll go on a trip. But if it's only maybe money, I can't come, how do you like your smoothie I wanted to mention how good it was before. But you were talking, but it's very good. So green deficient. You know, my roommate's been drinking, celery juice, every morning for a couple of weeks as fucking saying are wonder how much of it, and we talked about it before the placebo effect, right. Like, but he is like he swears that he's that he's feels so much better in every aspect of his life. And it's almost like fine fuck even if it's bullshit, fine. Go at it fine. A lot of talk about it great for your skin. We should really drop this whole fix the world thing. And just get into some sort of pseudoscience than cash out. I mean at this point I'm pretty it's so much easier. Right. Pseudoscience. I love it. Let me ask you question related to our work shoot. What percentage of our commerce of our main shows, we've recorded seventy one what percentage, do you think are climate change specifically? Well, we, we talk everything is. In a lot of times. We talk about clean energy in that, so so related to climate change, which it is separated. But please a lot drastically. Most of it, give me a percentage, seventy six twenty seven watts. No, it's not. That's wrong. You ready? Sure. Yeah, no as just spitting out, data me just making up numbers mean we are twenty seven point six percent climate. Five point three percent, specifically clean energy. This isn't really an order here. Let me put in order twenty seven percents climate. Sixteen percent medicine, twelve percent politics, which can apply to any of those things. What's the next big is eight percent agriculture. So it is the biggest one is just as much, but yeah, eight percents space eight percent science education, five percent. Ocean, five percent, clean energy and two point six percent youth, which probably the climate groups. It's interesting, though, right? I mean, that's fine everything so connected it is. But I just everyone's always oh, it's the climate change podcast. I'm like it's a lot, but it's not sixty percent. People say that about us sure I get it though because it's the thing that's on. Everyone's mind. But this is why try to emphasize like climate change is the big fucking thing. But there's all these other things going on, like not great things like antibiotics, but also some really great ship. You know, and other complicated things. But it's interesting like agriculture's broken with or without climate change. You know. Right. And the factoring everyone because we have to eat. When we have to we do have to do you think that one of the reasons I can't gain weight is because I don't eat enough calories. Probably are you just got like a rock and metabolism. I mean that's true. Right. I mean your body's hot. Time justify you from please. What if it hurts? My stomach d two into calories. You know, can I tell you what? Some of those headshots smoking on the motorcycle, please stop it. Stop it. Did you up date our votes on the on our site? No, you wouldn't let me on my God. But I did the first Email, everybody gets actually, in the welcome to important, not important. I did use that image of you with the boombox. I don't know if I said that that was okay. Did you know you said it was great? Get it. Thanks for doing. I just had over really that one is to shore. It's too good. A sweet teddy still on the website as if he's ever here, fucking guy. Do job man. To your fucking job. Teddy, what do we have duty at Twitter to extend the amount of characters that can be in a handle? I mean the only way that we can do something about. All right. It would be great, wouldn't it? Yeah. It would who has at important. I don't know. You'll miniature check I'm sure if it's a news. Sure. Gotta be right. I can't believe that you wouldn't have. Oh, yeah, it's true. It's a guy named drew was last time you tweet December last December. Oh, sorry. It's a, it's a woman named drew I'm sorry now that I see the photo. We got we should just get that we do that we do important or important, not out of curiosity. What do you mean? We should just get that to somebody who owns it. It's complicated, but it can be done a they've, you know, of course, they've policies because people do this all the time, then what their name they want this Email address thing. And like if you're a brand, and someone has your exact name used certainly have more of a argument, right? Especially if it's not in use, or is been. Left unattended? Okay. We don't have any of that going on, but it'd be interesting. I was I was so mad that I couldn't get BC K or BBC K on things because people are had them, especially when it was like, well that's the p Patrick. What is not a well, whatever? Oh, yeah. No. Is it? BP K on Twitter, the Bristol pub chest night. It's what that stands for they get together every Wednesday apparently at six thirty I wanna do that. They haven't tweeted since two thousand thirteen I'll Christmas day. You could argue. I mean it's not argument. You're just saying like this is my name, I would like to have this. And then I don't know what the fuck in policies are I'm sure it's like the wild west. Yeah. I can't imagine in the world of things that Twitter does. Well that that's one of them. Whatever. This has been, maybe the worst fun talk of all time. Would you say if you say it, what are we done? How long has it been thirty six minutes? That's nothing three our podcast conversation that got long? But I thought it was great. I talked too much. She could get going forever. Great listening. You do. I make the big bucks. Oh, god. It's been a good run. Guys dollas into him people. It's been a good run. Everything's fine. He's gonna survive the race. We're not gonna see each other for nine months months. We might it might actually be more weeks when we get back because the goal is to take all of August off. Oh, yeah. So could be like eleven weeks twelve weeks. Wow. I realized what we do need to one. We need to do in August, though is Sal. Alex's lemonade stand people want to get them back on before September 'cause I did after. Yes, it's like first or second weekend in September. So I wanna get ahead of that start promoting and then have them on like well before, so people can hear about it and, and get tickets and go really fucking. It's just the best. We're actually going to have another conversation with actually different conversation with some of the people, some of the scientists working for them, Oaklawn which I'm pretty empty about, that's coming up in a little while great, ma'am. Talk about people doing shit. I don't think there's any real like going to sleep and go like might doing enough craziness. You know what they don't have. Podcast. I mean, they might they might. They should just have one. Yeah. That was really great event. That'll be fun to do again. Hey did you find the cord for your moon that I buy know where the fuck did a goat gave it to me? Did you give it to me, at home or never been to my house? So is here. I'll throw it out on the way out. Did you? Last time we were here you don't take the trash. It's got to be in that corner. That's only unexplored place in the whole play. Well, why don't I look for it for you? Why don't you don't do that right after you get the Instagram stickers going that this has been fun? That's, that's wonderful. I love my job. We'll talk to you later. Wait, what are we supposed to say? Emails fun talk. Maybe non Mandarin. If like I'll Google translate. You said I can use we can try you do that. The voice messages. I realized I need to make now that I know those exists in the know how to use them. I need to make like a weekly reminder to, to check them. It's not talked to the people is not intuitive, the finals fucking thing through like attached to each episode, and you have to go through six menus, weird super fucking tonight. Cool feature but just make a section like my voice messages. Yeah. Right. If you're gonna promote the thing, make anyone send us those, we'll find him one day on day one day and won't clued in the I think that's it. All right. Great weekend wins coming out, Brian. Who knows no way. What number is this twenty five twenty six when he's six dune family? I believe at least shit. That's crazy. The whole a whole month ahead of time. We'll start to run behind though because we're never next week. I get. Anyways, have a great weekend. Everybody.

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#96 - Build It And They Will Come. Accessibility & Understanding Your Audience - With Wim Stocks - GM & CEO WorldGaming & Collegiate StarLeague

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#96 - Build It And They Will Come. Accessibility & Understanding Your Audience - With Wim Stocks - GM & CEO WorldGaming & Collegiate StarLeague

"Hey welcome back to sports, podcasts and this absurd. We've got wind stocks. Win has an extensive history in traditional games, and then into the sports market I had him on previously in joint podcast been Pfefferman from McKay sports, talking about companies economic response to coronavirus, and how they fairing, but I needed to get back on solo because. There's so much spent doing that's I wanted to talk about, and he really got my Brian Flying Throughout this episode. I really really enjoyed this chat as I. Have you know I think really with the past fifty to sixty or so I think that you know we're really finding Astrid here in the biggest sports podcast and I'm enjoying the content and I'm putting out so hopefully. You're enjoying it too, and if you are just dropped a review if you'd like message, we've got a lot of positive messages from paypal. Also suggestions of guests always happy to take them. Enjoy the step aside. For those of you who have also lost your employment or looking to skill up? We're trying to help me gay sports. We have an eight sports fundamentals, course, which is helping people to understand an entry point into the employment within the as sports in any market where the coming Strategy College University hostel whether you're trying to transition from another sport to provide support for all of you, offering high as you feel model, so you can head to be Sports Jj Ford such education if you've lost main line of. Of Employment and you can't afford to hire right now at all. That's perfectly fun. Where able to offer it to you for free, you can pay now. You can pay later. You can choose whatever you want. The course is usually one hundred and twenty seven dollars a day. You can take it now for whatever you feel is appropriate or whatever you're able to afford highly, this will help a few of you. Get back on your fate in the short term and also the long-term we we live how you? Chris Good morning to you and in Australia night night here Thursday night. It's always a good night that means tomorrow's Friday. That's very true, and as I like to say clients in France in the US we're leaving in the future here in Australia and the future so bright, the world still will still toning with doing well the Friday and and we're having a good Thursday night, so that's Yeah Yep. Exactly not apologize as soon as you start the livestream This is what happens in coronavirus times dogs running around the house barking, so just give me one second and I'll go and saw that out. It's okay. This is what what's a pandemic has brought us all. To be the impromptu and to roll with the. Punches well I mean that's. That's pretty APP to to static compensation I. Guess You Know Stream Live. My dough grows crazy because we are working from home from cried of eyesight. Those people who've. been listening to some of the content for period of time, when of ours was still fresh, we had women wheels headband Pfefferman I'm Canada from UK, capital and Mckay sports on board to work about a bit of coronavirus, economic response and things like that and one of the main things. He said women's right now you'll find his blowing up twenty four seven with presidents of basically every single media netware Colin you asking for content, a be interested in Konic kicking off the conversation with that e e, still getting these mainstream organizations looking for a splits programming way we are, and just had a sort of a conversation yesterday, which with a bunch of sports networks. At are represented under an umbrella of a media company, and and all still to this day all baseball comes back Major League baseball tonight in the United States. So that's a good thing. more normalcy, CPJ seeing some some driving events some some of those coming back, but still east or is the is the predominance or these days, and and it's yes, it's on twitch, Time Youtube, and and showing up on facebook gaming in elsewhere, but but now the these these I think what what has happened in the past pandemic is, that is traditional. Broadcasters potential traditional networks now Allie, the stand what he's is, and no, it's. It's a replacement for sports. that as I mentioned I think last time Jesus Alabama's back in the bottle, but also they're. They're now really sort of waking up the fact that man. We need younger audiences here we are is fifty year old. baseball demographic isn't going to is isn't going to. Be around forever. The sixty year old PGA demographics tackled mirror off forever, so so they're all waking up the fact that this is the way to communicate with an affiliate with much more youthful audience. Lousy Jesse's, and it's it's now. It's home to roost. These guys get it. They get managed, and they've got now got to figure out how to be gall whether or not. It can be involved is another Matt as another matter entirely I think he's four. doesn't need traditional media as much as traditional media needs. These sports but. You know this is their livelihood. This is what they do. They not Ino- broadcast. They know entertainment. They know how to do engage millions of people, and and with with the right formula with right approach. They have ever shot at this, but but thus far as we all know. This is all playing onstream in online and not -sarily other. You know we were just reflecting yesterday in this conversation about Turner. Journal riots early Turner had it right early with their first league in for car strike, and and not only do they have right, but the brands that they brought in to support it. They also had right, and that was that was four years ago. I was a long time ago. And and in the scheme of things yet they made some of their forays into in a broadcast use for in in bringing predictability around the broadcast that that's still Jack. Jamie stands up is one of the other great moments in in. In sort of democratization of of sports so so. I think I I don't think it's over for traditional media, I think. There's plenty of opportunity especially, as as now more organization comes to sports. It is getting more predictable. There are more path as two point eight to point B., or for players for events for mountain and the notion of broadcasts. Predictable broadcast is scheduled broadcasts that we all we all know. You know even if you're not. Austrailia I think you're pretty much. Know that NFL owned Sundays. At. One PM Eastern time and four PM time at eight eight thirty eastern time on Sunday. That's a sport doesn't have it, so I do think this is. Predictability. What what scheduling and programming can do for his or these? These big networks that are more traditionally focused I think they have. Do they replacing in this mix? Elect that predictability. Thing that you said there's there's been a lot of thinking of being doing about. How can a sports take what the USA is done and doing and take some of those accused from there because the USA, today really. Really seems to function like a new age sport, and even though it's very different, even a lot of the Thomas focused on the media and the personnel, not necessarily the best fighter, and because the people that can sail the best pay per views say take free one who's a fan yet. Kamara? Who's been just a fan it. He's wealthy white belts, but he sold many many less pay per views than. Someone like McGregor oversees unlike that has who's doesn't have any way. In Years of stellar record is Kamari does, but is much more interesting fodder and talks a lot more smack in the Mike but the interesting thing. When. You're talking about that. Regular programming I was thinking that's actually what I do. Enjoy about the USA, because while they're in different countries, different states all the time. I know all the time for me. It's The Sunday morning from. Nine am to Iran one PM. That's when the US on basically every week so I know that I can shine at that Tom. Don't forget, and it's always one of the best and the worst things about sports especially counterstrike. There's just so much content on all the time and I even Stralia at one point I. Think in twenty nine. We had four or five different leagues happening at the same time. You know. Zoe Bank Asia qualifies. There was an ongoing. Let's play lively. There was an ongoing as There was ongoing ACA. Mountain G. League and it was also another qualifies for I. Believe Dream Something like that and. Is just so much console time. It's hard to Ni-. Which team is the best you could be retained. Order is the best because they won the ACA. mountain g league with you could say well didn't even compete in. Let's spy live against this other team that was in there. So are they the best and who knows and then as the content happening. What tournaments madame more than others? An does become quite confusing the this thing i. really wanted to ask you more about three which what you might regional. And doing a little bit of work. I've current of ours with local sports You know we've got example here? As a Australian football league Sports League, which has ten thousand kids planet, for example, so significant amount of kids, and they're looking at how they can activate Gimme and stuff, and this has got me Ray thinking, and how as sports can a localized because community sports drive a lot of the economy here in Australia? The local barber shops, the local cafes, the local mechanics in the bushes and things like that, but. But on an as sports level, everybody's focused on the global. They focused on signing an MBA saint. Like the misfits non they focused on the global razor and steel series sponsorship on getting Beim W in, but is. Is that something that that you guys are going to be really taking control of working with local colleges, but will say mentioned potential local TV radio sessions they they the best. It's a great. It's a great question Chris, and and we believe wholeheartedly that there's a ton of opportunity in the local the regional. Implementations in initiatives around these sports and our frame of courses is college, biggest frames, college and. We've always been up until this year. We've been largely You know engendering inter collegiate competitions, meaning no putting schools into conferences, organizing matches between the schools in those conferences brass, cracking them into a into a playoff circumstance have a grand finals or championship. That's that's always been our model and. It can't say it doesn't work works really well, but but what we haven't done up until this year is that is to help us? Schools build more local presence or what they're doing with these sports, and and we have a whole new set of initiatives. For this year we just launched. Our were about to launch and I'll give you a little. Our reveal hair that have given. We haven't given out in the in Marcus yet, but we're building intramural leagues now for school so that they can keep their students engaged. In their school with their school via an Inter, intramural league. And I, think TRAE intermurals right? This is the. Okay so in the US. There's the big 'cause programs big or program you can play football or basketball, varsity, level or junior varsity level, but then there's a whole substructure to that. Which would you referred to as Unum Urals and that's. A fraternity, a set of fraternities, playing one another in a softball league or Pick up teams playing in in a league that is really meant to be in trust school in truck, collegiate and dynamic for participation and force participation in the United States especially in college Rome and so for for the first time. School year will be introducing in allowing schools enabling schools to build intramural leagues so that they can engage students with a with a school initiative. This is really the discordant mural. being led by students are the teams on a on a college campus led by this by the schools themselves the administration saying we're we. We want our kids to to engage more with us. We know we can't engage them visibly at this point because of of covert so the next best you. Do it online, and and so we've created We've taken the intercollegiate. Ram and make make have made it intra school so that. Our are. Couple Lisa these will have five six different leagues. Really centered on the schools, kids enrolled in schools, playing against also enrolled lescoe, Cedar Team Team, or based individually or whatever whatever the game, so so that's a our big initiative didn't know speaks to to your point of. Then the school has a big initiative around which local sponsors can be involved can be. Also now there's an on campus presence, freeze or It. A likely will be once once. Everything gets back to five activation time campus. It could. It could set up these intermurals up student union could they could play in outland. Center could set up their own venues. And all of a sudden now with with big followings, not only virtually online, but also potentially a live events local pizza guy, local beverage company the local. Merchants can get involved in or or to. Start getting a an affiliation or any a week. That's that's that hasn't really even started again. That's really getting going, but we know that as we see in overwatch, Lee being successful with garnering team in Houston or a team in New York airing local sponsorships came in Philadelphia that whole at whole breadth of of local Ram. Coming in to support a team now that has a community affiliation as a city affiliation. Those are big opportunities and and. Just really getting going over Overwatch League. Elitist with franchises obviously. Means by which state are. Those those sponsorships, but We believe strongly We're investing at model on the helping colleges build up their own infrastructure, not just enter between the schools, but now on campus in school as part of their their product, offering so to speak, but our programming for students sets up. We we believe aren't we think it's going to take the next level and my my experience thus far what can? Can. We communities bullets in the hottest thing is is making it as tone K., and his easy to understand as possible. Do you guys have a an easy subset? Way Can explain to them, because the the difficulty for me is someone who works in the market. Always come to you and you know they've obviously got bicyc- on the sanding wedlock to do which is just got. My Games against Chela. But unfortunately there's so many questions in the background that we need to ask is a double elimination. Is it single elimination? Is it a? Is it around Robin? And then what's the game? Okay, it's fortnight is at one of the one two three three three full before you know. Is there a prize full? And all of these kind of things g have a couple of to in case ego to this united this college, this high school and say look. He's exactly what we think you should run. You can either do Faithful Swami one. You can be for nods. It's to be, too. You can illegal agents as forty five. He's the format conduit. Oh we've. Been Our business we we've run thousands of of tournaments and you know we we. Take to answer your question in a little different. We also only do we know the tablets for? The, Games at best. And there are some conventions about tournament, structure, deductible, or or you know best, Matt, or whatever, but and we try. We try and model is much after the pros we can, because that's the where we're getting more serious. Amateur player just by virtue competing our events. Definitely wanting to show their stuff, and they've got some skills and and our us because we can help elevate them and put them in the proper spotlight, but for or so much so much of it we. We have templates and we know that you don't WanNa. Call duty of at the same way. You're on streetfighter of Dara a madden event, the same way you you run even NHL, event or our our. LEGAL LEGENDS FOR SCHOLARSHIP. There's so many different tablets, but but as what we do, what we and and as a business for us, you know we we will help. brand comes to us and says or are. We do a lot with with proteins, the NHL Proteins or the NBA proteins a to Haley I. Don't we activate any sports event around the NBA? NBA Game around the NHL game around the madden game and will help them will figure out the right structure of the red coach as it should to start online and finish off line. should only be online. You're only be alive that we we've rotten. Just about every permutation there is for those kind prevents have enough experience to know what's going to resonate. With the with the players, what's going to resonate with audiences? What where the most opportunity to bring sponsors in will be out outlet. The right way is to representative sponsors in integrates sponsors so so yeah, there is a lot to it, but. Those who have had experienced a it's it's not. It's not that difficult. Somebody comes to us and said I. WanNa do this research. We lay out the options. Say We we'd recommend you. Do you do be oversea? Something like that. Now, that definitely makes sense and I think in something that I've talked about science to papal in the past fees understanding you know exactly here, audiences and building things for the to be participatory, which is something. Obviously, the EGO is focused on so like a common question for me, is Chris we got the small event where an incident F I you know. Know. How do we make an awesome broadcast and often I will? Who's WHO's your audience? Your audience, really other people playing in the game doom, do people once a chain into a professional studio based united live twitch stream just to watch. Kids play games, probably not. You're probably spending that money on getting more kids in through the door, giving them better opportunities providing. Providing him with better scholarships are logic prospal, and in spending your money, you know in that Connor romanet and design thing that okay. If we WANNA, get kids in, we WANNA give them as much of an opportunity as place possible single elimination w Manasian just doesn't really make much sense because you only get one. Get two games, and then you get knocked out. Out instantly whereas you know thinking back to. When I was a Agena catastrophic source playa before I was ABC's Jimmy I would love to go to events that allowed me around rubbing. Because at least in could lose three matches in a day, rather than one or two so I got to have a bit more of that experienced it to go player that run. Absolutely right so, what does the scale of luck? Collegiate sports look like jokes talked about before we started recording. If someone from Australia enter prefre anyone watching wait, I have anywhere near the unity to universities or colleges that you do in us. Most people don't live on campus most people don't really care about what University of that went through that. Don't have that identity that way you know. I went to Rit University. I don't have an arm. It hootie. That's very race. Anyone who does and yes, there is some prestige. The university I went to his very with the social work, and there's some other universities that psychology or medicine or something like that that I have any sort of like. There are some college sports in Australia and College Sports Games. But for me, you know I. I played volleyball in in in university. That was not competitive. That was just a volleyball club rather than a volley. Tournament contain looking at I, think snapchat was my first exposure to the collegiate sane I remember when I started doing those location-based Jay tags, Eka. Do you know that have that story that combined story was something special happening like running with the Bulls the faithful world coppell they had this collegiate NFL fondles, and it just blew my mind away. There was tens of thousands of people in a stadium. Stadium watching you is in your olds. Play Bowl. There was you know. Tens of thousands of people in the parking lot outside You know you know having some bees and having some fun and things like that as well so do I say would would you say the potential for college sports to get there and my challenge as to why I believe like maybe oil is because. That pathway. If you're an east bullets, you've already got professionals like Buddha. Who who was what fifteen sixteen years old when he won the four? Not World, you've got a professional plan now of play Brazil Australia. Who won three hundred four hundred thousand dollars at the Australian Open, Cup against plays with flow from China against Benji fishy against phase place, and this kid was an unsigned seventeen year old with a control. He's never played at a live event before. So I guess. Guess that's true to rake at really. There's two questions and they like number one do. Do you see like Klay Jd sports getting to the size it? Collegiate sports is and Bay, does it? Does it need to and doesn't need that professionalism, or can it just be a fun and United Semi Sports? Leisure activity instead my view and I think our view as a as a company. Is that No, we're still so early in east origin, still such an formative days and and You think about how traditional sports grew. Not only in in terms of FANDOM, but also in terms of participation now contrast. If you're a baseball player, had states and you're six years old you. You're pretty good idea about what you need to do to become a pro. Yours early sports player today new why you would, you would likely have no idea what what the right route is to go and most sports in us, and even you know around the world have have that sort of infrastructure. They have a path a a start in out. Use The baseball now to start in literally again are actually starting t ball, and then and then you graduated literally again. To Play Junior League play for your junior high on your high school then you gotTa College Semi Paul. And if you're good, you'll make to the. Late set he's forced doesn't really have that and and colleges, a big part of of a at least in traditions, or it's college in the United States is a big part of how players get elevated. They number one. They distinguish themselves in their college careers amateur. They put themselves in the spotlight number three eight hundred duale. They're in the top one percents They get drafted in and go to play. Baseball or NBA national, basketball, association or NFL, or whatever that doesn't really exist, and and he's bored getting there. It's getting more is more structure there I think the the fact that we've had is big. Pro Team leads these especially the franchise models that look very familiar to a lot of people. They look just like the NBA or the NFL franchise. In a city that's playing franchise. Another city park league structure, they player. preseason a they combine, if draft PRESEASON A. Naidu going class championships at looks an awful lot like the NBA NFL, and and and that's that's a great thing for us for his players at their aspirated She s they see over actually they see flashpoint. They see the NBA Two K. and now they say okay. That's that's what I WANNA do. That's my aspiration, but now what I do to get there and. College is in at least in the united. States is one of those paths and and the great thing about colleges. Young you could couldn't say this three years three or four years ago, but today nearly every college in the United States has. Sports in some form or fashion meaning either as a competitive sport. There in enabling. Teams of players or player students on college campus to take part in competitions we're. We're part of that organization art through CS Alvis notion of engendering. intercollegiate competition where were part of the scene in part of the organization but not. Looking well beyond just competition. They're looking at east or it's as a recruiting beckons gaming recruiting mechanism because Kitwana if I, I can't player but I want. I want to be engaged in some form or fashion as a business or an production Ronnie's or two around marketing or analytics, or or any number. I just saw you saw a posting. I didn't didn't print. I gotta find again, but there are eighty five disciplines being taught in college curricula. As as career opportunities and eighty, eight six are liquid eastwards, so so the so the notion of these on a college campus as a development for a player I think is is coming where we and others are helping with that organization Galvanization, but I think even more importantly the notion of these courses of business or as a as a career. You know the Curriculum Ronnie's or we're help we've helped. A number of colleges build programming, not just around competition, but also around Alam. That's a really important thing that colleges bring and has that. Zach builds I do I do think more college. Competition is going to come the more organization around that people can see when players to see how Kfi go to the school i. do well I'm GonNa. I'M GONNA. Be drafted by a Houston outlaws and your watch league that that's. That's a path that is more clear anything that can help clarify this is this path? The feeder mechanisms the grassroots the developmental mechanisms. That's a good thing for sports raw to really good thing. call for colleges to get more I. I really yeah I mean there's been so many of us have been talking for a long time about that pathway, or at Stu, not set, and it's frustrating is so often you have in I'll get a message on link Dannon. Just be like Hey I think my kids pretty good at Fort, not. Yeah, what do I do I well I, unfortunately I don't have an answer what? What do you do and I say well? I found out a sports BLACKSTON. And then it was up to me to go and do all the research myself and how to get better on the lakes to play, and it took me a lot of time. It's not easy, and it's not the same as what you said you know even here in Australia. You understand you can play the apartments goal. You know you can play a high school. Then you can go to your local legs, and you can go to state, and you can get into national. All ought to the privately and things like that happening gaming, but. Pathway sports I'm just going to say one other thing about college sports is. Not Not really much further clarified other than the fact that there is intercollegiate competition, but but it's still very fragmented. Number of different ways to get involved we. We don't think of ourselves. As the as the NCWA we act like the NC double a. of course meaning engendering in collegiate competitions via console, organization and scheduling and no match match play, but we're really the. NCW NCWA is very focused on just athletic departments, but as as you're, you're likely aware. In collegiate round teams form from any number of locations, out of at any number of sources on a college campus. So so you think about the ball team yet. Athletic Department that that controls it soup to nuts on a college campus, but for us for Legal Access G my college campus could come out of a stem program. It could come out of a computer science for Come Out of Student Life Program, some of the biggest programs in colleges in the United States come are worn out of and supportive I student. Life programs so saw where we. Departments are starting to to bring these sports in under their wings, but still it's the it's a it's a small percentage of your teams, and and frankly for us week we encourage all. We want as much participation as possible. And in the one common. I'm driving towards the set still in in college. Even with this organization. There's still a lot of fragmentation. There are different organizations there are different structures there are. There are different job in publishers, want a their league structured differently than maybe another publisher and what we're trying to do, and you'll I think you'll start seeing a lot of this in the coming years that we really wanted to reduced fragmentation and sports, and I think we have a we have some won't reveal too much, but I think we have a structure. That's going to help, we're. We're going to have a new footprints. And round that will be part of that will help in that regard bringing media, Tricia or any sports together notion of it becoming more mainstream as a result. That, will also. Help with with De fragmentising. If that's a word, the collegiate. From, so so we've got. We've got a big big ideas and and are hoping to. Bring at Suffering Homa, discounting coming is season. Yes, I guess for anyone who's was used to using a pace a heavily ten years ago. Sometimes you need today, Frag you. Hi, Dr Cassettes would. We're tonight with sports frightening collegiate. He's for dirty. Go ahead. Exactly and it just backs like that same thing. I said before the most exciting, but also you know the best and the worst thing about any sports Zemun content there it's it's great that. You know anyone can really kick together. A team of five plays and Playing Talk Aso League or a top face legal something like that. You don't need to pay that. Massive Franchise Fade. I have to go through the red tape of being selected, but then it also comes with massive downsides, which is had he get found. You know how to get the skills to try I'm always torn between those all the time, and I and I did say some comments linked to live chat as well people asking. For, example there was one question about some what are the implications of traditional media adopting as votes bay for the collegiate sane in his early predictions around that and similar questions from a lot of people as to how will these blue chip brands changed the way that we try to do sports? How how will the? Olympics coming in trying to change the way we do things, and is that a good thing? Is that a bad thing and I have the answer on. Expect you to have the answer either? It's just such a confusing point for me that there's always two sides of the coin that I love Brazil could come down from Queensland is seventeen years old. He can play his. It assigned to face. He plays flowing from China. That will slowing from London that were flying from California New York, and disbanded obsolete nobody in the sense of things, and then he is able to exploit A. A courageous based off the back of that, but also it's hard, because had he gets abrazos point adding have that structure to be able to actually have the skills that he does without having to go out and find them yourself. How can you be put through that pipeline like a Katie is three little league baseball through flip through so cuts or anything else like that I. I'm just a believer in the fact that now. I've used I. Mean How many. How many. Traditional sports analogy an is ever used. In it helps, it helps with understanding it helps with clarify clarification I think the more we can do that. The the the the more understanding will will. Will generate for his horse, but it could also only gets you so far as to. Your point, it's a whole new round to be A. Online athlete than it is physical athlete from just from a perspective of how you engage what you engage with I. I don't I'm not suggesting that. We have set for. Since our inception needs these are. These are real athletes these are these are the people who plays or it's a real athletes. They have to be trained like real athletes, and they have to be nurtured by real athletes and and supported and and and and it brought brought through the the the follows as a real athlete or a drug traditional is so so so where where wig we believe that if you know back to the, and I think you sort of hit him I I do think traditional media still has an opportunity to get involved into, and they amplify. Amplify especially on a regional basis. Because a lot of sports infrastructure, the TRICIA in the United States is is regionally based. These are these regional sports networks Fox Ron's ABC ron's or or ESPN ROMS that that they support regional sports and and the tablet there has recently sports and that that's a there's a whole big, not very perfected advertising model that supports all that and I. think that's where where the were. Traditional media can make a difference and in building a building up presence on a regional basis, and the regional rivalries that. I'm from Minneapolis Minnesota sort of Wisconsin robbery, one of the biggest every year and Football hockey in number different sports, but and that's all really brought about by the fact and the support from the regional sports networks that at all so. For blending a couple of your questions together, but I do think regional or as a big opportunity that still has untapped. It's still is just getting starting. is. Largely I think the collegiate. Rome our regional collegiate. He's for. Trump has been a big opportunity. Really important thing that that like you said there is yes. Connor works well thus fob only gets you sipho until you can adopt those things and I remember listening I. Listen to The Sky that call like the godfather of podcasting. Apparently he kinda started podcasting. He was on Joe Rogan's podcast as the interesting thing that he was trying to explain to Jerry. What if you times that dry was getting? which is the difference between like what he called like advertising money and realize tossing. Tossing money and against the differences, you know a lot of the time talking as sports teams, they try to sell that hundred thousand dollar sponsorship, the trying to sell that five hundred thousand dollars sponsorship. But how do we get to the point when we're selling, you know a one billion dollar. rights fe for content like is extremely common I. Mean it even happens in Australia they to be billion dollar sports deals for Australian only sports like I fell in in our l.. So you know sports in Australia is bigger than sports globally, which should happen within twenty three million people site. You know it's how do we? How do we learn from the traditional spice to get away from those? Ten Thousand Dollar Prayers Youtube and Streaming trying to trying to symbol cost stream on twitch into everyone else. Get Out content listed for free on NBA. Sage to say how it guys and trying to get that hundred thousand dollar coal sponsorship for my leg, and and things like that. So how do we get to that? Fifty million dollar multi deal with the Coca Cola for a massive united franchise where it's icy, colleges are all playing. You know that that would make sense to some other Colo to red bull to get into that and to get him with the youth and to sell across them, but we're not. We don't have that. We don't have that structure. Sit there yet, and it can be scary 'cause. A lot of the Times as sports. People don't want to be told what to do, and I think that while the Olympics getting involved in a sports. I think there's definitely some good points. I think there's a lot of negative pr about that in the past. Because from what I'm saying is, is that a lot of the time? The IRS as basically said we know what's best way GONNA. Tell you what to do, and that is not. Not what I mean, that's not what a teenager wants to hear and a lot of times. That's how as well it's operates like attained Asia and you can say the comments from people say screen way making you know some of Gaza making millions bucks, and you know with selling at stadiums. Who you to tell me what to do, but ultimately yeah, very subtracted to what you're saying. Know the only massive and they get. They get they literally. Literally, get some whole nations to beat tens of millions of dollars just to host them. They're rather than having to go and beg a studio to hide them out to pay them. It's the opposite way around I go there, so there are definitely some leggings that we can take from that, but yeah, I, guess once again it goes back something or is the best and the worst thing you betty sports so fluid and so open the so much. Much content. It's so exciting this so much going on, but it's also the worst thing is just so much. Going on the I started talking with the Turner thing that know how they showed a lot of a great savvy in recognized acted that there was no predictability. No, there's no scheduling for or he's or and in a there. Are there sports to? They're very successful sports at work. Innate a use that template to the Brownies Orson. And, and now give it a home. You know this notion of having a home having lace for you know on a Friday night you'll at ten o'clock you're going to watch counterstrike match between some really good teams, and and that was the start stilts by large that at dynamic still doesn't exist. Yes, Nicole, generate job more wisely very predictable. Now you know Friday Saturday Sunday. You're going to see the match as they communicate and wingels are. Now obviously not on Youtube, but but but that's still is in the minority of of what he's sports is all about and and I I do this where traditional media can be helpful and and tap water around. How attrition! We got so big. Was You know what to do? You know where you knew what you knew. Exactly what if you wanted to watch? Baseball Wanted Watch football, or he wanted to watch hockey. You knew where to go, and you knew what time of day it was. Still a dozen other than the big. The big projects. That doesn't really exist so so any any. Any predictability scheduling that can help but it will improve. The quality of the of experience will certainly proved the size of the is. Dad elected I'd like to get your thoughts or something. Then you've got my brain ticking over exactly what you said, there's a there's a couple of things right like I went to the. World Cup twenty. Sixteen was in Australia and I think it was Mr Elliot Team Finland and do to others as well apartment, but what other countries were there and it was a sold out arena. It was one thousand one hundred tickets, but what what I noticed. Is that the fans with if? They went there for the players so D- the blizzard store. It was a line of like three hundred people before it opened, and before the line would end it. It'll be sold out by you know. The store would open at nine thirty five I haven't would be sold out by ten I five everyday. What also I noticed is that you know it was instantly sold out with the crowd people having a fantastic time going nuts. You know inside the venue cheering famous travel. Who's playing very well at the time and who qualified what also notices that team is? Is Truly could just walk around in public without being stopped by papers, so they were on a C. D. for the game, not for others so that if I transposed into my personal life I will watch the USA basically every time it's on, just I know it's going to be a certain quality, because it's USA and enjoy the content, which is mixed mush. Lots all say every year I used to go to Defcon, which is like a hard style hardcore Music Festival, Cod Cod Techno Hod base, and I would not know any of the artists, but I'll go. Go there. Because a lot of the environment, people are quite friendly, these kind of events and I'd like to go and have fun with my mates, but I would have any idea who's pie ever Otis by the tickets rock up and have a fantastic time. So how do we? How do we get to that point? In as Blitstein we can take that essence that have already seen with a little bit in overwatch, but tight that essence of traditional sports where people will just go along and people were just watch every week because they know they're gonNA get tangled Cana. Cana struck and then wind as early who the teams that applying, and maybe they'll be made a fan of attain off twigs, which is what happens to USA People Jump On bandwagon of single as never heard of when they have a good performance. But how do we get to that point in sports? Where the guy well you'd I ten ten, I and pay day every single. Saturday is going to be a rocket league match on, and I'm going to treat it 'cause I enjoy rookie league and I know the competition is going to be good. It's it's It's a good question. May you know I I do think that. One of the things that hold, he's for back. If it isn't, it isn't a madden or a few far and young and went holds would hold some of the understanding that I can say. You have to understand the game, are you? UNDERSTAND LEGAL IS PROBABLY A. Not Regard Hard hard to master that game, but her very Wolf Stan. What's going on you? So part of it is, is that although you know it's interesting in this conversation I'm having yesterday. With one of the Fox sports network. Guys we were. We were talking awful lot about Turner. Counterstrike in, and he didn't know a thing about our strike, but he but he thought it was fascinating, and he was a use of fifty year old guy, and and was talking about how it got it the fact that it was on television traditional television. The fact that you didn't know what was happening, but he kinda. Get it because it was you know. Shooting game you kind of get what what what's happening. And and what the what the objective of the game is, but he said. You said something he said I I started talking about my friends they got they got hooked on it as well and it was the notion of of here is competition near as something that's again back to this notion of its on traditional. Television, it's it's it's. It's odd Friday night. When nothing else was really on and his this whole group of Friends of his complete, the demographic got addicted to watching Dr Strike. On Turner so so there's something be said for as there's an understanding of the game that that is a bit of a barrier. The more that all of us can do at more. The publishers can do to to. Engender that understanding for Renan's. That's that's obviously a good thing. But but it's up, but it's a fascinating thing what what what you went through in whatever others going through as they see sports for the first time in A. Fasted by his I don't have a clue as to what what I'm watching. What I'm saying that that's that that is that always will be the challenge. These games after more watchable, more relatable. And, then the officers will follow, will grow. And add to your to your point. Also the WHO the stars you know, stars and You Watch the Australian. Or Watch League team. You know big big players in your watch league. Big players overall scene, but it will could walk freely amongst amongst the crowd, and not nobody would bother him. I think I think that starts at starting to change, too, but I also think. You know just how accessible this I've talked about. This fairmount to I went to went to see a P.. football playoffs in San Jose a couple of years ago. it's a big thing like the super. Bowl for college or for college football and here is Mahomes now major superstar had just been drafted into ended the end of the NFL and he's walking. And he's protected by guards. He's A. He's a twenty two year old kit. Young great great athletes, coming out of college I got got got a nice position was. Drafted but he's walking around with bodyguards. Rodham at that same event is Ninja. Now? I would shut down three years ago. Ninja was far more popular than Pat Mahomes was, and he's walking around signing autographs being very accessible. He's there part of a part of an another activation that was going on for for. Leisure back, but he could eat huge star and the fact that he made himself so available so accessible as just a different dynamic in different culturally. That! I think he's sports can help traditional sports. These athletes who are who are so much on pedestals and so much isolated from They recognized how powerful that following now is and. This is what he's sports. Rod Sports is brought the fact that that you you'd be accessible UB. You'd be available you'll be. You could be a good person. and you'll get rewarded for that. You'll you'll. You'll get rewarded for that by Charlie. Ob Get rewarded for in terms of your persona. Get rewarded for it in terms of What you're what you're a juror. Contracts are all about so another. Thing that I think he's done really well. The athletes the key players keep personas myspace are accessible they they recognize which side they're. They're bred the virus than other side of the butter. Their bread is whatever. But that's a that's a that's a. that's a learning that that now traditional athletes are are coming to understand into appreciate understand it. It's the fans are are are what made them who they are and. Giving it back in and acknowledging that those fans not not giving him the the Butler surrounded by bodyguards sort of approach image. that. Was Not a disparity between for patent homes, Super Cool Guy, and but just a really different dynamic in how all these two dynamic brought up around come competitive play, our will would jerry two very different sorts of ashtrays and way they approach world so not Horror House. Yet it keeps keeps making me go back so often to something that Clinton and I recorded a talk for this influence, a marketing conference valence to look it up, ICAN. You can sail the talks afterwards. That had people including like the. Seventh largest TIKTOK celebrity in the world, and the the founder of of Thrilla, which is taking taking over I should mayor at the and things like that Terry but. The thing Clinton said he's that. Understanding who's influential and WHO's popular? Thought, that was an important thing because I, you know I mean looking a lot at say these stressful like UNICEF Talia and you know we do have select stars who are on multi million dollar contracts you know as as far as the scale of that goes, you know it's a few hundred million dollar business that board a stadium they bought Eddie had stadium, and it's now model stadium during the semifinals and the finals. The AFL they'll do. They'll do one hundred thousand tickets at MCI, J. to sell so it, so it's quite sizable. What you can say is that. A lot of the football players popular or famous, just because they're in that team, the ego to their twitter account, and got two hundred followers whether they're instagram. Account of you know maybe three thousand followers something like that and the the question from Clinton was brought opera often ransom as well. It's teams just because have a franchise in the Gd Lake, and maybe have a hundred thousand followers. Does that mean that you're influential or does that just made you popular? And what's the? The difference between those two. I think that's what I find a lot with the traditional sports paypal is that if I am is because they're on TV, they find us because they into attainment because the position I held in A. Maybe they've maybe someone's famous instantly because they become the CEO of Google famous, but it doesn't necessarily make the influential in a journeyman. CEO is very different to an Elon Musk or steve jobs or Bill Gates you eight another in the same position. And very similar in traditional sports, you know if a highly influential, very active person like a like a Michael Jordan, or like Shaquille O'Neal is very different to someone. Else's played at the top level. He doesn't enjoy the media. Spotlight doesn't post on Instagram does post and social media and I and I'm thinking. That's what we saying a lot off with that traditional sports. Sports versus as swear in gaming, they are these influential people. There is phase who is still boys, my mind to this day, and it also buys mine that more people talk about this phase did a made up in New York City and the line was sixteen city blocks. who paper common say them like? That's ridiculous. That's like that's like bagels type fandom though. The people that would that would go in and you know the teenage that crazy to say that back in the day. That's Justin Bieber taught phantom, you know, and then they did a made up the next day with one crater in California an apparent was like a hundred and five degrees, and three four thousand kids turned up, and he got to eradicate the kids try to break down the temporary fences to get closer to this guy and the had and the place came. Shot it down. You know I like. That that is the Phantom. You know that we're looking at, but to to what you're saying as well as that you know the accessibility is so different if I think about like a Gen, Z. influenced, today's compared to a traditional actor or actress. You Know Hugh Jackman Wolverine. He's popular because he's on the silverscreen. He's on stage, but he'll come out he'll do. He's one movie a year two movies a year, and then go off into his wherever healy's Hollywood hills mansion you want. Want hear from him ever again. You know he might be posted on instagram once every two months, and that's the traditional thing of how movie style will work, and that's part of their, Lua but if you're a influence in the mainstream today, you need to be you know creating content on Tiktok in its be trading tweets all the time. You need to be on instagram posting six stories a day in, it'd be doing youtube blogs once wakened, be streaming live on twitchell G.. Or something like that and you need to be constantly accessible whether it's three patron whether her generations where the papal pipe that excess. You still need to have that access available people about OSCE questions question to answer them in is be at thirty nine to noon on streaming. Who rate at your comment and you feel like? You're part of the family pot of what's going on. Massive difference, you, can you. Can You united? Methodist Shaquille O'Neal and he'll rated on twitter or reply like mice, luckily, not even these accessible in a mainstream paper Rick Fox. Yeah, show you could, but unites very very select few to you can bit. Can you with the Ninja or Pokemon or Valkyrie? All a shout of someone like that very luckily, it happens all the time. They're always rates. Waiting Fan out. There was replying to people, rating comments and things like that, too. Too So it's like that accessibility and once again I think it goes back to them, not just popular. They're not just famous. They're actually influential. Actually have fans and follows. It's well, said absolutely right. cool sorry I guess one of the last things want to talk about because I think we talked about this. This topic quite a lot, so when things to look bad against is your history in the space in a way you came from and where you're at today, say. You know everyone's everyone's got a lot of positive was to say about win stocks a behind the scenes and in the public, which is always good, but you know I was just doing a bit of browsing three three linked in account I'd love to learn a little bit more about your history and business in a Hadji, a sports, and and you know health and pretty senior positions in the past and the traditional games industry. I. Yeah, I came into this realm and a kind of a way I was I was a math major in college I was actually not a very good math made those math major in? and start to cold a little bit. Back in those days of computer and computer programming was was relatively new and I thought I could be good at it. I sucked at it. But I but I got the bug for computers, and and we used to make these little Fortran Games. In the in the college, I went to in in a computer lab at that time. And it was fun sort of but I was always a game by my dad had a growing up ahead pinball machines. PINBALL is Christie probably. Okay makes. People outside. Don't check really I. Was Nine I. Could I could take a pinball machine apart. Put it back together again, so I had his. Fascination with with mechanics around of a big game machine, which was which was pinball, and and all that. And I had sort of a mass mathematical. Mind wasn't really ever interesting to came easy to a degree. But that was what all of that that an amalgam of sort of got me interested in in the tech side of things in the computer side of things that that led pretty readily to to gaming, and and got mauled with a company that was in video, just a video VHS distribution business. They start getting involved software I won't bore you with all the details, but this is an area of egghead and computer land ambitious land does with the retailers that sold software and. I started getting interested in when went into the store and see these big boxes that Assira online at Gabriel nights by remember some of the some of those games that were online only early games. Roberta Davis was the woman was the was the publisher slash? Developers slash author of these Games and was was for me was the most. Interesting Times really stimulating times about one. A game could be in how it played out. In an interactive way on computer, so so wash story, get through college go to work for at and T. and a computer processing realm. got involved in selling computers at more involved in in computing, and and made the pivoted at this company that got was doing distribution for retail stores. A started a software ram started software around those broader than just gaming, but gaming became a big piece of hidden and lear. That was how I started my first. Job In the publishing side was with GT INTERACTIVE GT interactive If you're familiar at ut interactive was very very influential. US influential, not just popular, but info influential. In. The early days of of of aiming published doom published quake published no gum some really of the market on I in early days all. Unreal we were we were ethics. For Unreal got. No Mark and. Went from sales. Does sales marketing to becoming head of publishing? We merged with a company. Called G INSTAGRAM Big might remember. Polisher in many regards the same structure in the United States. They were european-based perfect amalgam perfect. Way To mercy copies big publishing companies have great distribution. And then we bought Hasbro Interactive Act Interactive Division of Hasbro, as we were going through due diligence, pastoral looking at this list of of their Ip obviously monopoly and scrabble, and some of the biggest four games in the world but I now listen here's Tara. The when did when did Hasbro by Atari will? They bought it back in the nineties. Never really done much with. Is started lock some games some old games. They did a frogger on on playstation. A couple other all games by. The brand itself? was sitting dormant and we We took the merged company that we had just got through to. A GP interactive in instagram renamed, Atari, and we were Atari when we went live, as Atari in two thousand and three, the rebirth of Atari I, got to stand at the Nasdaq and in New York, and push the you. Don't ring the bell when you when the stock ticker changes the Nasdaq you push a button, and so I got to push a button when we when we. Relaunched the Atari. Our company has in. Stock doubled just based on the name on everyone's night peo-. But we, so we resurrected the Chari Brandon. It made it always been sort of pirated up to that point, but we got back on track, and I was headed publishing for all of Atari. For North America and in part of IN APEC to Australia and Japan so so that was that was the by Atari days where I ended up leaving Atari to start. My own company called Elephant entertainment all about digital all online still at that point. That was still early in the. Two thousand six and. And sold that company to long story, won't bore you with all. That didn't like what was happening to. You ended up leaving and started What today is our company were game I started back. We started back in two thousand nine. Remember Virgin Gaming. Gaming was really before the or came around. We built a a term platform that enabled people to play and had matches for money and. That essentially as the as the foundation of what we are today, now now, a big player in the amateur and semi pro and side of of things so went through cleared, but that's. A gaming have been in gaming thirty years now. I have the best job on the planet feels like work to me. feels like we're playing every day. I just said to my team we are. We are frantically busy right now. Everyone's ready to drop over from exhaustion, but. He, reminding everybody, we get paid to play games, so. I'll never bitch about that. Where we might you bitch about allow work, but you can't bitch about fact. We're all getting paid to play games, so that's. That's very true. Hey, I'm man Lotta started companies games in in the past that you just said and it's funny. You mentioned about the Virgin Gaming thing to people are still trying to figure out the right formula for that these days is still new companies that are being launched one V one for money I'm saying startups come to Dick's all the time about the brand new ideas. Obviously, it's not bringing. The problem with it is, it's hard to scale human behavior in that model because you know we millions of players, hunters remains players around the world. You put a little money on that. All of a sudden it gets. It gets competitive in all sudden. People will do stupid things. Cheap l, l., ally about who they are, they'll. They'll manipulate the profile and and result. People who play those never never quite sure who's on the other end of the joystick or not sure? Are we really playing guy who says he's a four, but he's maybe a tan the night. He's GonNa take. My money the problem with that that it's it's not technological scale. It's behavioral scale. How do you get people comfortable with the fact that you don't know who is on the joystick that can. More we we did profiles we did. We did his. You know we used as low as a as a mechanism to rank players at not only took into account food. They played. Their, but all their opponents opponents as well, and still after after all the assurances that we we, we felt we were getting ready to to players as to who they were playing couldn't scale. That behavior was was out. How things? That asks Netflix. All the technology in the world can really help you with that? It's really a a human thing that human behavior around playing for money and people who know that we used to say lying for. Even for ten dollars brings out the worst in people brings out. Just the absolute were so figure out a way to cheat though figure out a way to game system and. And we we, we dealt with with those that kind of behavior a lot, so I I'd love the model still i. think someone's going to figure out the best way to do it. We can still on our platform. You can still play one V one, but we don't promote it all that much. It was always confused with gambling people. what you're doing is gambling and they will now we're not at at skill based gaming. It's legal at method. Follow certain rules certain structures in order to make sure stays late. Oh back, but but now with the with the soft on gambling. Are so much. Had had is probably a really good model to bring back and not be so so concerned about the gambling affiliations are the associated with with the what what what potentially could begin on, so so I, I'm anybody who's still wanting to build up farm up to of the left to help you Next level, something I could do hopefully somebody else can do. That's good. Yeah, one of our Clients Unicorn He's wagering company I've they've recently launched that an haven't haven't managed to catch up with him. As to see what the uptake is, but it would be, it would be interesting I think it's always a good idea and obviously good influence integrations can be done. You play against me. You drop five dollars five dollars. Whatever and you can do it on strain. You know some cool things to do around that but I always just wondering where the people are going to do that today. Today well. We got the other thing our our platform started getting very complex, because it became really a transaction transactional banking platform you had to. We add picked integration, and and you know if you deal with pay, PAL It gets very stringent about what you can and can't do on. It comes the money payment processing, so so that was the other thing that we we were thinking a lot of money into the platform, just to make sure we could. We could stay on side with Alan and but A. Different different time in a different mouth I saw. Thanks, thanks for that is realized I've been having some problems with PIPO myself. I just checked my email while you were talking and Yeah, they. They just Re Verify Canon of Norway so apparently I. Don't need a sixty. She's apparently prevalent before everyone's GonNa Pay Story. Happen very often so congratulations. Exactly exactly and it site fill anyone who wants to follow you or any of your company's online. Where's where's the best way to do so? 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PMS 2.0 180 - Antonio Gates, Ted Ginn Jr., & AJ Hawk Join Us For Three Incredible Conversations. LET'S GO.

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PMS 2.0 180 - Antonio Gates, Ted Ginn Jr., & AJ Hawk Join Us For Three Incredible Conversations. LET'S GO.

"Hello it is Thursday March twenty sixth already times fly in all of those people San. We'd be in the middle of March madness rate now missing sports to be honest ozzy. Football League fell in love with that overnight. One night stand with the. Afl had a one night stand with the Australian football league. Can't wait for them come back. Nhl OBVIOUSLY MLS pe the best now talking about the NFL season. I Dunno I got like six seven tweets today and this is how I kinda judge the validity of things if I had numerous tweets that say the same exact thing. I'm like okay so somebody said that at least six people read it so at least six people read it. We can assume you know maybe if six people read it and had the urge to tweet me and tell me about it. Let's assume more people probably read that quote? So who's saying I don't know but somebody saying it in any by the way that's probably not the greatest way to cite something but it's how I get alerted to. Some things that are potentially happening might not be in my world because looking at the positive stuff was talking about this. Listen to that okay. Bumble in like six people to me like the always gonna be no NFL season. What does that mean? Who said that? Why does that happening in my life? Now don't need it. The Olympics got moved back here Marty pissed off about it already pissed off about. It can't be screaming. Usa at the top of my lungs and middle fucking livermore. Got To wait another year. It's all right now that you're training for the Americans or are they going to be worn out because they're going on like a three and a half year training period battle through for America and for their respective countries. If you're listening in another country I hope your team does good except for against us. I think everybody should feel. I'll watch speed walking door. No Summer Olympics. I'll I'll I'll get into some sports now. The streamer dance routines. Think I would have been great at that. Muslim is calling. GotTa a fucking metal. Volleyball always gets exciting. The gymnastics routines one more year postponed. Let's just hope they don't do anything the NFL season. You're going to hear US talk about today. Possibly high who tease him? Battling through a potential corona virus. He said he'll be finding out the results on whether or not he has the corona virus within the next twenty four hours. So you know maybe sending a tweet to the guy I don't know with titled it into this or edited out of this but I'll say the general managers have aboard. They all talk to each other. Nfl general managers all talk to each other every day. They have like a board a voice. How's it going or do we like? What are we a birthday river on getting the fuck out? They unanimously voted to postpone the NFL draft. They told Roger Goodell in Roger. Goodell promptly responded and said nope forged the river fellowships forge the river or not budget. We're not moving. The dates will remain the same. Do your jobs better. Because obviously general managers would like to meet the people that are potentially going to be spending hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars on to build their team and they wanna meet them in person. Maybe you want to get a little medical. Maybe they want the navy seal that they hired to on their scouting department to have like a mental conversation. Figure out what state of mind is and if the guy will buy into the culture the GM's unanimously said. Yup need to postpone it because we would like to figure out what we're getting when we're getting how we're getting. Who What how getting when we're getting. Who said Ronko do your job better? I like. I think it's awesome? Just don't postpone the season though I lose my shit now. 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Ladies and Gentlemen Ted Ginger was so hey we're reading through your resume it. There's no way this is accurate you've played the NFL as a wide receiver for thirteen years about to be fourteen. You'd never made a pro bowl. Never met a Probo Kanta sleeping on you know. I still got the better end of your longevity. I take it all day over You know going to a pro ball here near and be sitting at home on my couch. I say hundred percent. I just want to let you know. I don't like that. The people that disrespected you ted. I had to punt to you one time and I've never been more scared in my life. You and Tyreek Hill absolute nightmare staff the punt a ball to you because we know with the drop of a dime. You're from the ticks to the other side line. No problem at all. You're an absolute nightmare up. I didn't know you were a d. Back to at one point and your High School State Championship. He had like eight picks or something like five senior year. I did not know that. Yeah you know I was clearly here. four Number one deficit back in the country Automatic a game that that was like my my my heart my deal right there. I was a DB. You know As you can see throughout my career. We're my father pushed outlet but DVD's you know a winner while Shah added more Justin Hardy and the numbers go on you know and that's just like what we would we be. Would we believe but what I would hire. Stated you know with me being a quarterback my whole life and Being a playmaker that I was you know a phone myself. Just gravitated office aside. We'll have guys like your boaty. Dustin Fox said that's a winner. Ej Underwood at a time at Ohio. Stated Chris Chris Gamble has just left so A lot of good guys. So you know at that time. It was just off fits in I was supposed to go back over but I started making my name so I say I stayed put Ted you are. I mean. Thirteen years into this thing still one of the fastest dudes in the NFL. At what year or has it ever happened where you thought you couldn't get by like is there. Has that happened recently? If you had to change your game or do you still think you can float right by dudes if you have to still slow for sure I will never. I would never give any guy out there. The dog that I can't go past. Oh my God I that. Oh yeah you know. I'm getting up there but you know they'll be with with the game has changed. You know where you know. You have to use your speed when you can you know? As as I part of my years you know I just thought being a blazer was the deal in your narrow. Angie's run a bag is now porno triple into rows in different things like that and as I got older Got Around guys like Ricky Parole. Curtis Johnson and the walls. You know and you know my gain just has evolved last like five or six years just by being able just to settle down not really worrying about district. Gains Grinders playing football. It feels like that. Saints Offense Sean. Payton and drew brees if those two are together. It's always going to be successful. Obviously Michael Thomas a guy that you know very well kind of lit up the boards your down there as well. What is it about that offense that makes it so successful? When is Sean Payton and drew? Brees what did they bring to your game? That made you an even better play in a more elite player. I'm always gonNA call them or Google that one or two best. Tanos I ever been around. You know. Far cogen quarterback in the regular relationship has whether they put the time in to push that deal. I will never see it again. You know ups but You know you learn and you see Danes carrying on and it's a Brotherhood honors a different type of cultures the sanctuary down their medical. Do things in a way to do. You normally don't do things at in different areas you know that was my Fifteen Always on in you know. I felt like a rookie at sometime. You know I felt like a to a two year guy so tired. I think that's the feel that you want to have down there. And just being cited you know. Every year was different. Every year was fun. I seeing what would they do? It is a great is a great city to play in fans or gradients. You know with them to being down there managed will be unstoppable. You got to play for the Carolina by the way. Those very intriguing to hear that you felt like a second-year player was that a good thing or a bad thing. They just keep fresh. That's a good thing you can't refresh. You know I mean when when you get up in an age like this you know you find things that helped trick that that. Molin you know and You know being able to play the guys like wash on Lattimore Ingestion Hardy Michael Thomas and bomb building ally APP or no guys that you know you watch tomato Ohio state. You've been nor for years now. You go down there you know. They really intrigue of what you've got going on. Really WanNa be with you you know. See How your journey is to make their journey. The same you know when you know as much fun as it is as being honest deal That's a winning culture. That's not everywhere. Obviously you've been a lot of places. I'm sure you've experienced that. When you were at the panthers. The panthers were a team team back in the day whenever they got going Cam Newton's now about to hit the free agency mark from what you know of Cam Newton and behind closed doors. What do you think people are going to see Cam Newton and his next stop? If he's one hundred percent healthy moving forward Matt. You're going to see a mvp you know the GOP trains and Attacks Football in a way that he does things you know whoever getting wherever he lands you know they got they got weapon on a handsome man and he's GonNa come out like like a cannon you know and the way he's ignoring preparing you know I've seen him go to his ground before eyewitness describing for anyone in of of the whole league are we wanna take one you know that God has a motor inside of me has something to prove I'm already thinking about the money anymore. I think it's just about him being. Tamdan going on and shown everybody that you know. He's who he is the guy that he says. Super Mansell up I just I just wish for the best foreign Whoever getting Menegatti Jim and I hope that just using I think so too. He seems to have the personality. Where if he asked reprove himself he's going to shine like I think he feels like. That's the personality that he has because not that he would ever have to reprove himself. He's already won. Mvp He's already won a lot of games but to an organization to the staff to the to his teammates. Everything like that. The day to day it might be like a reinvigorating type. Situate- situation for Camden. Well you know you you never had to wear about it with the fans you know. He's a fan. Got You know a community by anything any comment to. He's GonNa Bring the energy that he brings. You know I think in. Nfl In his gang period is approval sport every year so every year to go out. You've got to prove yourself. I've been playing. I'm almost fourteen years now in every year. You had to go on a show that you can still do WanNa do in how the door you know no matter how it is hot. Come till you know you got to fight with with the war and that guy put in a lot of time man. instagram up. I'm GONNA I knowing firsthand. So I'm a firm believer that you know it does not play you know is going to be real and a man. You got kids now. You know at the beginning of his career. He didn't you have kids now. So there is a whole different type of of of Motivation guys not tag. We're talking to talk. Ted ginn junior who's played wide receiver in the NFL for thirteen years. He's been screwed out of a promo thirteen times. He's a current free agent. What is your mindset going into free agency right now. You kind of waiting to see our everybody plays out. Are you kind of sitting back ring chasing? What is the mindset for Ted Ginn? I WANNA play football man. I never been rain chaser. I never been money chaser. I've been I've been a guy being rice fight and be with the right people unless play football. You know. It's all about unity I won't bow just being bad guy when he's not supposed to. I don't need one hundred ten plays I need. I need enough. I JUST WANNA pay four blocks. They got something in me. I still got enough in me where you know. I can go out and compete with the best of. I don't care about having approved myself. I don't care about anything. Matt WanNa go out in this in this. Finish off the right way to have fun. Doing I believe whatever team get on with the That I have and I'm gonNA bring to the room You know you could spark anything man you know. I'd have been on that I'd have been Owen. Won fifteen out of been fifteen to one. You know so you know it. Just it in a bowl with great. Great people were gracious. Great coaches and great people. You know in this. Just apple didn't fall right and sound for. Did you know so I just want to go out and just play football when everybody to respect me for who I know you wanna chase be seeing like? I'm just going for money or anything like that. I just wanted to play football. Ted You're returner. You're a blazing wide receiver. I would've never expected that answer from anybody that those two roles that it's kind of like a broad brushed it gets painted when wide receivers in returners. It's like hey there about the mount balls. They can get their about the amount of money they can get their about this type of thing Ted. You've played for thirteen years. And the only thing I've heard about teammates is that they love you then listening to your response rate. They're all they want to do. Is Play Football? I don't care if I have to prove myself again. You're an anomaly. I think that and I think any team coats packers. There's a lot of teams that potentially need weapons patriots. There's a lot of teams that need weapons. I would assume that these people are going to be very interested in old Ted ginn junior. Would you wanna be now or would you want it to be later? Whenever it's closer to the seasons you don't have to throw. Ta's and everything or would you want to go through the build team Camaraderie. I WANNA BE I WANNA be part of everything man you know for my whole life my my. My father coach you know been been been high school. Coaching coach. Great players have nothing but team unity. And that's all I'm about man. You go where you can get it done If I'm more aware new I WANNA be right. There'd from day one you know. I don't I mean that's football as being a team player that's being done with with the situation especially if I'm not from from that area aures not like a familiar spot. I gotta get online and see what's going on. I got to know while I'm around. I like to bring my family. It's not all about football is about the whole deal when you come to a new city you know so I I wanted to be now. I WANNA be later. I WanNa know where I'm going. I want to know how much is going and I want to get in and just get goal. Tad You're awesome here. Your Dad obviously very important person in your life. Ted ginn senior said. He was your coaching high school. Is that accurate? Yes while highschool coach for track and football damn he created a monster as your dad created an absolute monster and he was really really different tracks. Like wall was like buddy buddy brothers on ny safe Track REPLIED FATHER'S SON. You'll get away from me man like we had nights we had time where you know What did he never brought it home but didn't have no choice but to come on if you understand what that was you know and You know how nice where I in. Quick track owning but I go back to next day. I could occupy every week. You know the focus that he had tracked was totally different mindset. That's why to this day. You know I think got tracked by Ground. Helped me be a Hawaii? Nfl Right now. Because of it's a one man sport you know no matter if you have a relay as a one man sport everybody have. Do they all deal to make that relate go but you got to work individually to be able to make a? They make an impact on the relay so The individual work output in Just helped me be able to go through this with flying colors and I heard I read on your wikipedia that the Ohio State Track Coach. Wanted you to come join them. You decide to focus on football instead of doing that. Do you think you would have been able to be an Olympic sprinter or something along those lines? If you would have focused on that outright for sure I if if I were to really wait in a Rick Cause Trench. My favorite was my favorite sports. Do it to this day. You know just you just can't turn it down. You know the work that you put into that Matt it you do anything. Ingo Swell Play Basketball Baseball. Whatever you WANNA do like sander body of work that you put in for track masked over off sports to me you know edge of. I really wouldn't win in ranch in college. You know I I'd have been hurt out. Have Been Looking for sure. Would you be the fastest hurdler in the history of the world for sure? I absolutely I really. I really like to be honest. I highlight one track coach. That came he showed me a lot of different things. When I was growing up his name was Jenkins and then as I did it by myself. Golly I got a hurdle I got him under Reid. You see the anchor weight and I went to work. You see those white kids get absolutely slaughtered by those hurdles. I mean and then you get apps on the Internet plays no games. You know hurling is really a lot of work that you put in by yourself and a lot of state building is not always like going over the hurdle like that's like that's the easiest that you can do. Everything goes on wall stabilized building your hips building ankles. You know you tell a DB this thing that right. Yeah Yeah they always strength coaches made me do this. I had to lean on a wall near like all right dude. Fifteen and one of his legs cycle thing. And I'm like this is helping me. Yeah listen I checked before I go in high school and I was a punter. I mean he just ten yards. It was all. We'll be at the time so that was actually my last highlight of my senior year. I kick the fifth your field goal to put us up. Put US down. What twenty one. We Taleghani Twenty one on like that real lost twenty four twenty one to Brian or frigging. He threw six picks last year last year alone. I'll notice Ted Thirteen years a lot of you've seen a lot of corners. Do you have someone that you love going against. An someone who who you think was probably the best corner that you've gone up against a lot of defiance you know. I scene arrears island Commodity Roger Commodity. I had two tie law. You know I've been I've been around. Patrick Peterson You know arousal guys you know. The guy always respected always loved. His game. Was Readers had a lot of respect for played in a conference winning for X. amount of years you know and I always put him probably my toughest guy. He by the way him and Richard Sherman got into a little twitter beef because Richard Sherman. He said isn't an island guy. Although there are some status Richard ends up one on one coverage in a regular basis are two different style corners but there was a little bit of a beef in a lot of people are like Rivas. Should not be talking to Richard Sherman. I was like I I think you. I think those folks never saying that didn't fully understand the amount of respect that a lot of people have for Rivas in the. Nfl Rivas Island was a game changer. Not only business was but in a football field as well he would shut down entire half of a field basically in my honor percent accurate and facing that so anytime anytime you were picked from what I've been told as a wide receiver anytime you were picked as the Durrell Rivas guy it was like a tribute almost like congratulations. You're on Riva silent. And then a lot of those guys didn't have a lot of success in my accurate and say is everything I just said there. You go both ways man you know. I watched which Sherman Man on the planet. A Lotta guys against you know back in our days at the forty niners you know and and he just like you say there's two different styles of corn they both. Have you know what I'm saying? And a bolt on be great. It was going to go on to a hall of fame. They both going to be up during the top rankings of corners for the reservoir for the rest of my life. The rest of our lives is nothing that you could take away from numbers. Don't lie both have great numbers a role for our center in different ways and they bring both Braga change to the game. All right. Well we appreciate the hell out of you man. I can't wait to see where you go. I hope you put the colts but anywhere you go. You're you're a legend dude. I appreciate you joining us today. Now Bob moment everyone have me back in my Lau. Hey if you get bored calling whenever I do hate what you've done to punish over the years but I respect the conversation off. He was awesome. I didn't realize his dad was the head coach of a pretty famous high school in Glenville. Where a lot of players have come up. Just he just lead. Read off a bunch there. At the beginning of all the players they played with. He's like basically. Db's thing so he had eight picks five touchdowns you return them for and stuff like that. What an animal. And by the way just just like play football man. I'm not chasing money or range football year. Fourteen wide receiver. The amount of stories talked about Premadonna wide receivers and stuff like that him. It seemed to be the complete opposite there. I loved get love that man. I'm big fan him. He was scary as hell though to Punto off. He knows strider you said Oh. Yeah Dad made a monster he goes. Oh yeah no yeah Harverson Right. Yeah music onto whenever he would jog out there. I mean it was a whole thing. It was when he saw. Antonio Brown back area was a nightmare when he saw Ted ginn Becker. What the Hell's going on Tyreek? You're like some of them. This is just a nightmare situation. Ted Nine never had dance though. Thank God it's amazing to me. He doesn't want like ring chase or wants to play football. Somebody vote him into the pro bowl. How are you sir teen years at a position that is not easy to be? You know why. Because he doesn't care the dude just doesn't care about any of that stuff. I don't think I saw like eight touchdowns as return and that's a lot. You'd think you'd get in as returner when you. Yeah you would think. I'm a massive tagging junior fan. I'm going to try to get his Jersey next place ago. Put it up in the office somewhere like that. He's a Cam. Newton whoever gets them as getting a guy? That's a chip. He said he got to watch him. He got to do the whole thing. I'm pumped up for that. But will the chargers make them move? Thom Tillis go the general manager of the chargers. Is He a guy from the bill? Polian tree that would want his quarterback to be a very charismatic quarterback in Los Angeles. He said he can move forward with tyrod. Taylor like dig said right before we went live. Why not just give them a two year deal frontloaded if it doesn't work out you're off the hook after another year. Maybe if it doesn't work out good enough maybe guys are in the Trevor Lawrence Sweepstakes Trevor Lawrence. You know try to raise money for corona virus victims CLEMSON'S COMPLIANCE. Crackdown ON HIM. So he can't do that the NC Double A.'s. Going this and then he ended up played by the way Marquette. Said you can do it. But we're definitely going to have to monitor that. A cat go fund me by the way is a great way for players. Because you couldn't he can't get one hundred dollar handshakes more that I heard happened back in the day in the SEC the thousand dollar handshakes. They used to have them back in the day. Never happened me as a kicker Boehner was Virginia's down machine but it happened my teammates. I'm happy for him. But now with go me invent Mohsen cash APPs. Oh my God. I couldn't even fathom the amount of money just bouncing the mark. Emmer thinks he's getting guys None of your getting God i. I think there's a and that's why the go fund me the answer AA compliance with like. Yeah you can't shove people's faces that you're raising money from other people but Trevor Lawrence being a good human by the way doing what he's doing now the NC Double A.'s. Partnering With Them I discern. They're going to raise a lot of money for corona virus victim. That's a good kid. So not only is a great football not only is he the prototype not only a good human. He's going to have to bounce back after a little adversity hereafter losing to Lsu. But he's going to be the number one pick next year and if the chargers stink bad nothing. I don't think Cam Newton Work and you have no fans and stuff like that. Just get travel on sex. You know whenever you can't make Trevor Lawrence I don't. I don't know why they wouldn't go try to get him right now. The Cam. Yeah Yeah it makes. It makes sense ticket wise for the new stadium because even the rams were one year removed from going to the Super Bowl and they had a hard time filling the rosebowl. Like and if if Austin equerry saying yeah. The tickets were expensive at stubhub. But I see what the Rosebowl they were normal and the rams had a hard time film it there and I don't know how many games a new stadium like let's go to the new state and check it out. Get you as far as fans buying tickets before if your team stinks. They stopped going. I always wondered why that was that digs by the way at McMurdo. Also here Jason. Mcafee Cubans eat. Evan Foxy Boston Connors. On the phones one eight three six three two three three three one I. It always like teams used to Hang Los Angeles over their state or cities head right if they WANNA lose stadium where they wanted something and they wanted the public money whether it was the city or the state governments money tax money. They would hang over the head that they're going to go to Los Angeles. We'll take this team right the Los Angeles tomorrow you want to. You Know New Stadium. Know big deal. We'll go to Los Angeles tomorrow. That happen everywhere. That was like a lot of teams did now. Some places didn't give in and they obviously saint. Louis lost their team Oakland and given lost their team. It's like new stadiums. Are the thing that kind of drive the NFL. At this point right New STADIUM IN L. A. But I didn't understand the allure of going Los Angeles. I think because it's such a big city. But how do you think? Los Angeles is a melting pot of humans. Like all the people from their towns that WANNA make it in Hollywood. They go to. La So L. A. is a collection and it's actually a pretty cool community right because you see people from everywhere you meet people from everywhere so do just drop them in a city. Where a lot of people from Pittsburgh in there they have their home ties and they go out there and that's like a cool thing about watching the NFL. In Los Angeles. On some Sundays you have fans from everywhere there. That's it's so just a drop a team in there and be like. Hey this is your team now. I think that was always an aggressive move. I never truly understood it but if you win. They're going to come out and support because they become fans but if you're just a mediocre team I think Los Angeles is almost like a death sentence for team potential. Let alone two teams. That's I don't know if one of them stinks to. You gotTA assume half the fans that's emerged you make well. The Rams are better. So it's like the jets and giants Lakers and clippers. They both been around for so long. So so long. Lakers Cup has been around a long time jets. Giants been around a long time. Mets Yankees Right. They've been around a long time. You could their cities that have to the massive cities obviously but those are like historic franchises who've had generations of fans to have just two new teams. You're immediately competing against each other. So if you're the chargers okay from a business sense we have to be better than the ramps. Do we have to be better than every other? Afc team new chief. Our ultimate goal of getting to the Super Bowl and winning super bowl. Yes the chargers. You have to do that. But let's let's make our first goal being better than the other team in. La So we can build a business around this thing. It's a very intriguing. Part because the rams could be on a quick they. They're they're unloading. They don't have a lot of cap space. They don't have a lot of money day. You're potentially on the down swing of things which could be good for the chargers which even more so you get Cam Newton. In there they win. You have a charismatic. Start Your quarterback as a charger. The other team stinks because they don't have to pay people and you're winning. I mean Bingo Bango. The chargers are new team. Also if you're the chargers or if you're any team who possibly could use a quarterback right now and Kampot issued healthy. I guess yesterday and you're GonNa get him for cheap a thirty year old. Mvp like that's just on the football field seems to make it feels like everybody is in agreement agreement that Cam Newton is going to be good when he comes back. If feels like everybody. They're always like. Would you take a rookie quarterback that you don't know draft or would you take Cam Newton and it feels like a Lotta People's answers that study football pretty heavily go? We'd take Camden just because we know Cam. Newton is going to. Do you have no idea what a rookie draft is GONNA do? But the payments are much different processes depends on how your cap spaces. I think that's the biggest thing that question was being asked. Would you rather take cam? Newton coming back? Trying to rejuvenate reinvigorate himself introduced himself to a new team. New Franchise do fans teammates or. Would you take a rookie driver? It's like well. How much money do I have to have enough money to pay him? Newton because if I have enough money to pay Cam Newton. I probably would try to get in on Tom. Brady sweepstakes as well and teddy bridgewater sweepstakes potentially but if I have enough money to pay Cam Newton. I think I'm GonNa Take Cam Newton over a rookie draft pick just because I feel like we've learned from Cam Newton that his upside could be incredible. Now the downside be bad. Yeah but we're in the same position we're in last year then. If we're having this conversation at all I think you roll the dice with Cam Newton and make a move forward. Were you surprised that when it came out that they tried trading under the bears? The bears essentially picked fulls overcame. Kim had one year left worth around. Twenty million dollars contract foles. You have to pay a twenty twenty thousand for the next three and the Carolina. Panthers said. They reached out to the bears to see if they would make that move. So it's like. What did the bear say now? Granted we know that the bears. We know that the bears make great decisions. When Patrick Mahomes Shawn Watson were available they said give us Mitchell trubisky foxy. There's no reason for you to bury the bears like that. So but by the way nobody could have known what Patrick Mahomes is going to do. Nobody did that's why slid dollar third round. Or whatever the Shawn Watson people were calling the Michael Jordan of football but has been set by a lot of people. A lot of coaches see whenever Mitchell. Trubisky was really good a year ago. Something happened is pasture where he got really bad. So I'm not saying they make all bad decisions Khalil Mack signing was obviously a good one but two picnic volts ever Cam. Newton is a very interesting decision that had to be made by Chicago bears brass and they did that. I just feel like with that defense. Get a quarterback that can run the ball to and just drain the clock that feels like that's potentially the right booth or are they scared of the Cam. Newton was GONNA BACK TO DR IN ATLANTA. Who WENT TO THE SAME MED school? I think all these other people want to say he's good. He's ready to go and he's Gonna I'll man. I think that's a bad decision. I don't think they're ready to move on from Mitch yet. I think they wanted a veteran. Who They think Mitch could possibly battle in win against to make themselves look better. We'll get pace is pace brings in foles and trubisky somehow someway L. performs him. He's gonNA look like a genius. So he's he's setting himself up like a smarter died so he's like the Jaguars this eighty million dollars okay. Okay I didn't do that until Mitchell trubisky in look at our Mitch. Look at our baby boy. Mitch you guys are always comparing him. Did Shawn Watson and patch now. Let's compare them to some other. Quarterbacks that have been paid like big Richard. Nick foles down in Jacksonville. A Super Bowl. Mvp Mike I Mitch is better than him. And I'll eat that sixty million dollars. We gotta pay just to prove that point. I love that bypass if he's that spiteful and making that move I love that move. You know that's kind of very similar to is like Tannehill like I. The dolphins paid this guy hundred ten million if he comes in in marijuana. Can't beat out this guy but he's not the guy dead. By the way Tannahill did beat out. Mariota and foles does Santa Maria or too risky than same situation. Nick foles already paid. Tannehill got repay two hundred thirteen mill for that guy. Good for him. Joining us now is a man who's going to be a hall of Famer. He officially retired in January. He was dominated on the basketball court. But it wasn't until he found the NFL tight end position that it became a household name in a legend everywhere. Ladies and gentlemen former tight end of the chargers and all pro a pro bowler an absolute stud and saw a chance to experience the wave of technology with us there whenever we thought we were live and then we weren't live. We appreciate your patience and joining us today. Oh No worries a house like my career. I've watched dicks as over. Came in and out to you. Know finished up in two thousand eighteen and It was not the same. It was totally different. And they're like little stuff. I'm all for it. I'm cool okay. So that is a great question as a man who's been there for so long with the chargers whenever the chargers make that move from San Diego to Los Angeles we talked. We talked to Austin about it but he was just there for the post time basically he was never really got to play in San Diego for the move. How wearing was that move on the players deciding to go from San Diego to Los Angeles. And how long in advance did you guys know before the public knew not much longer Because I think the whole idea was that we were trying to get into stadium. San Diego and You know unfortunately You know we weren't able to accomplish that so you know what they did was surprised to all of us I mean we might've known shortly right after the public and it was a man it was a it was a tough transition especially guy that you know. That's all I known up until that point is just the true charger fan. That was in San Diego. Man It was unbelievable situation mad at like I said we. We was hopeful. Let's those fans. Were still follow was when we got to. La Lay some of them did and some of them still support Thursday. Yeah it seemed like it was a tough decision because it seemed like the a lot of fans turned on Spanos and then L. A. Became the new home and pushing. Los Angeles in San Diego was kind of forgotten about whenever people would say the chargers they would still say San Diego chargers and then they would correct themselves so it was almost like a subtle shot at San Diego every single time. A commentator made a mistake but you guys you and Phil had such an incredible run of the chargers of old back in the day now granted. There's a chance to get back in that. In a couple of years ago there was a playoff run their that ultimately ended in Foxborough which a lot of AFC playoff hopes did. But that. Run you and Phil Rivers. One on was nothing short a majestic to watch. Did you ever expect in your life that a guy from Carolina who's got seventy five kids with demand that you'd be a tag team partner with for so long and have so much success with it and I think that was the beauty of it all you know I mean you talk about three different guys different backgrounds and what? What's unique is that you know most of the time when you take Some type of chemistry. You'd think of somebody say page to Sicily. It was. We wouldn't understand page. I thought that was. That's what made of strong because we seen it from different angles and my witness was history of my strengths is his weakness. And that's what made us selectively. Just don't mean that's what's that much more difficult to deal with and We apply that way. You know we go live to regain. It was things I wanted to get done and he'd probably didn't see or for CSM and Got A gun because it was ultimately changed or if it is and trying to death if you will that property the proper word to use debt and a game situation Probably about you know majority of time that you've seen in the past. Jacob Hester told me that Philip rivers and this is a shot at you by the way because you wear one he said. The Philip rivers was his favorite team as because of how much he loved. Football and basically is entire life revolved around ball and his family. Do you act other same sentiments? Like are the people of Indianapolis in the colts members in that locker room. Are they going to love? Philip rivers around. Oh yeah absolutely. You gotta remember that. Since the Organization coaching staff with what Philip saw the Utah? Jazz Mike Training. You know the whole staff basically that was in what else in San Diego They they know very well. He knows them very well. I know him very well and It's like a reunion in a sense You know they won't miss a beat going to steal apply the same things and That's right because I think they just instead of state right in. I always talk to when I when we did talk briefly Always felt like that was the best situation for Just put it in the fact that they got the same similar weapons And they got a phenomenal run. A Gay Look at defense. And then you add a quarterback that can obviously make your game go from good and they've got an opportunity now lifetime had a guy like that. It's coming out that the colts picked Philip rivers over. Tom Brady which is probably because of the Comfort Level that the coaching staff has with Phil from your days and seeing the Eggo. Let's revisit your days in San Diego back in the day a basketball player becoming an NFL player was not the norm. You kind of set a trend for a bunch of guys these days you play other sports and then think they can have a shot in the NFL. It doesn't always work as smoothly as you made. It seem was there any questions early in your football career in the NFL? You're like I don't know if I'm going to be able to figure this out or this is a lot harder than I thought it was or did come very easily to you at the NFL ladder her. Well you know. Obviously it was a lot harder than what people perceive perceive it to be. Because there's still a national football the I think the number one thing when I do talk to players that have that saying to make that transition has just It comes a lot of tough. I think my inner city growing up in Sydney came with toughness and overcoming adversity. So just because you're a basketball player you got athleticism. You can't jump into a football game. You can play with high ankle sprains so that to mean the physicality of the game Me Being thirty background it helped me stuff flourish in that game law. Obviously the athleticism was natural and things of that nature but I always say that when I got two guys two hundred and ninety five pounds movie just as quickly as you would just swift you were and that's something that you just don't see on the Basketball Court or any other sport. Thank God respect so guys WanNa make that transition from another sport will rugg asks him God that ran track if he wanNA come play receiver. He'll play cornerback. World playing them at National Football Just remember that Don't have to make up the the the fact that Physicality part and having toughness that to me that was the biggest Accurate I had come into the couldn't leave that Marty Schottenheimer was able to see the fact that I was still tough. Despite all the things that you know all athleticism and all the attributes that I was able to carry signing in two thousand two. That was old school football. That was three days still. That was no rules. Going across the middle. What was the first shot that you can remember being like Dan? These guys over here. I know I you know it's funny because when I went to the chargers you know I had an opportunity to going like I got no contracts and other teams but to me the charges were to change. I kinda like you know and I don't know none of these guys. I mean this is easier Chino making progress. Because what you would you. I realized at that time. When you move from making that transition from the college level to the pros that you assume that teams that considered the bag team for the kids with the less talent. That was what I thought when I got there and I got the I was tied in the lead I was calling them back home and I kind of my friends and I was like man. You do all complaints easy so you know what I mean but you remember that they will get all these draft picks you know what I mean. They had two degrees had drafted Lt. They grabbed Jeremiah. So on aware of the fact that the talent level that was there. Because I hadn't heard much about him You know they. They wouldn't winning as much That timeframe that was early cheap is the last time they had been to play over. Nineteen ninety four so I I was just just try a lot of Canada level of a team that was playing so poorly in that timeframe and Then you keep their man like it was just the chance to lose on how difficult it is to make a team. That's a force tiny. So I figured especially teams with my route and coaches. Talk about it. You hear on shows. They looted idea. Okay you you gotTa make this team on special teams when you become a free agent and that was my thought process. I never in a million years had thought protests going on Fran and start. That was my goal. My goal was at the time to take one step by the time. Special teams lost their make. The active roster I was actually surprised when I made the active roster. Because you know they were cutting guys and I thought it should have been starting to. You can only imagine how it's going to have the free agent and I see guys coming from Nebraska in these big universities. Here I am a basketball player and I'm sitting there and cuts coming up and I'm I'm in a hotel room and I'm like Giannis. Let him go yesterday. That's kind of what my I would. I would say to myself in gossip much more advanced than I was at the time because I hadn't played well. I think the charges made the right decision around. I mean it worked out. We have like a minute and a half left before hard out but I want to ask you obviously. I enjoyed your work on the grind. I enjoyed you on the field. I can't wait for your hall of fame. Speech the tight end position has become more important than it has ever been before I mean Gronk Kelsey kiddle you name it. It's becoming a household name. Are you enjoying what tight ends have become in the NFL or do you think it's a completely different position than back in the day? I love it I do man. I think you know we're finding you're not just to and obvious fans from out of the guys even before me That paved the way I mean some guy so I've done a lot of different things. That has the same effect on that will musician. And I think that's why it's very difficult to talk about. Any talk about the greatest. So many got impacted position impact the organization. I think that's what's more important than anything But the goal is to the point where that now Who could have dreamed it because when I got the lead You Know God's was not doing. You know kissing. You know thousand yards catching templates touchdowns catches one hundred receptions. This living thing. It was a tiny position with you. Know you have to be to sixty five and you had to. You know the black power the other block. Connor at the black ice show So out of my ability along Allowed me to them to be more open minded with me because I have the basketball player so it helped obviously make that transition in terms of God being space more and I'm glad to see it. You know every team now I looked at now is the guy that position that can beat you. Don't you and I think that's that's a beautiful thing. I think the thing that I've really enjoyed is you and Gonzalez. Obviously were the two names of the past right. You and Gonzalez were two names that best. Now that San Francisco Forty niners team George. Kitto is almost the face that entire franchise at Titan Gronk. As soon as he leaves the New England patriots they become a completely different team. Kelsey is a weapon for the chiefs that they'll need for a long time. I'm excited to see the evolution of tight end. Still become the dominant player and see who's next but I'll tell you what a lot of those people I would assume. They all grew up watching old gates film. You're an absolute stud on the field. But it was fun to watch appreciate it man. I appreciate. I appreciate what they've gone to culinary tradition because it's not easy I know that when you had a face of franchise like kilos or Kelsey go gross retired but I understand the dynamic of being you involved in that passing game heavily And you're telling you trust your organization rushing to make plays in a game is not easy Takes a lot of words and a Lotta Allegri sacrifice. So I'm glad to see what they're doing man. I'm continuing to root for these tiny. Actually the salary going up data. That's what we didn't get. It's only the big news as Cam. Newton getting cut. Do you have any opinion on if the chargers should potentially go after him? We're GONNA do a bigger stadium. Or or how do you feel about tyrod in in the quarterback situation now that Phillips Gone? Well obviously you know when you put tyrod blotch year and you WANNA be noted that I know What Anthony Land? We wanted to do in the past. I'm I think Kennedy fits that mold so that's tyrod Like I said I wasn't able to see tyrod close. I was watching these games last year. But he didn't share mark obviously spilling river quarterback When you talk about you know reviving a team reviving a city guy like chairman You can definitely get that gone From a standpoint of FIF- sales and I'll still your chance of a chance to win a championship because we won't we WANNA make this all about selling taking and the same seats. We still WANNA win. I think he's he's pretty. He's a proven commodity his lead. He's proven get your whichever ship that where he's at from Andrew Standpoint. I don't know that's up to you. Know the older vision to take their do they do. He's at but I mean you tomato soup. Strong quarterback backing run the ball downhill thinking sold a ball given the white weapons and I think he's You'd be appointees if they were not accepted obviously being welcome to open that was his route. Come LA charges. Did you think there was a chance Tom Brady was GONNA end up? I'd be craving away. I did in fact It was just you know but at the end of the day I just didn't see it being you know because I I didn't see other than idea. They for my stardom status in terms of ticket. Sales bringing Tom Brady. But you know you get rid of Philip rivers and you bring in Tom Brady. What if they're really saying about your quarterback? You know that you obviously all time leader in about every category that you have quarterback scam him. He's younger so that was weird. Got Treated for me because You know you bring in. Tom Brady and sales those up to my next week because Tom Brady. Who winner with that defense around. Our defense would be very good this year because we have some injuries last year so But you know that's done you know we gotta move forward. So he's going to tap black and Hopefully Wherever we land We draft a quarterback in the meantime because we still future quarterback. What are you doing with your future last question before we go? We appreciate your time here. What are you getting into Antonio why basically Been working working with the chargers You know I'm an ambassador for them. I've been involved in. You know things up until this point and That's what I plan on doing. And hopefully it can flow into something bigger some big role even whether or not you know doing something with the personnel. Whenever we may be but I think it's important to have ideas from guys who played Who understands what it's like to be in a locker room and soon cares about the organization which is more important and I have been on. We really my only family Because they gave me opportunity in And obviously just still working with them as I was. GonNa Pleasure so I'm just enjoying myself and I worked with the charges as an investor. That's awesome. What a brilliant. Move by them to be honest with you. Well Good luck with that. Good luck to the chargers. We can't think enough for joining us. Man You're incredible. Thank you have a good luck to your charges man. I hope you guys sell some damn tickets zone. Both mobile gives you everything you could want in a wireless carrier so you know exactly what you're getting an exactly what you're paying for with. No ANNUAL SERVICE CONTRACT BOOST MOBILE OFFERS A range of unlimited data planes and the latest phones from top brands at affordable prices service plans already include taxes and fees plus mobile hotspot unlimited music streaming and more step up with boost mobile step up with boost mobile super reliable superfast networks. So you can post up and watch the Games. 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Let's take advantage of what they got going on just like the Patriots. Colts didn't want home. Brady I I mean that's an interesting time to be alive I'm GonNa talk about. I'm going to move forward to another man. That man being peyton manning. Okay so everybody knows. I was very lucky very very lucky that I was drafted team. The PEYTON manning was the face of whenever I was drafted position that I knew nothing really about until I got drafted by the Indianapolis Colts to join the colts in two thousand nine. I knew I was arriving at a team. That had an absolute goat as quarterback. Then obviously I've talked about the first day. I met him where I met all the other. Oh Jeez on the team they came over. How's it going? I'm like Oh very nice to meet you. Jeff Saturday Dallas Clark Gary Bracket Adam Viteri than this man from the other side of the locker room came walking over. He had like khaki shorts on boat. Shoes collared shirt the glasses that connect around the neck thing was in the middle of spring. Yes Hi my name's Peyton manning and I told me I know. Shoot your peyton manning. Very nice to meet you. He was absolute gentlemen in Vitamin. Don't a golf trip before even really know me in that same golf trip. He told me to bet on eighteen because he had a feeling at the craps table and ready to scrap but roulette and read eighteen hit for a massive payday. Be Without Him even knowing that it hit he walked away knowing that it was going to hit Peyton. Manning was a great teammate. A great debate peyton manning posts career playing in the NFL. He's been pizza salesman. He's an insurance salesman. He's been a hilarious actor. He's been able to do whatever he wanted whenever he wanted. He hosts a show on. Espn that they've been airing. Basically during the days. Peyton places it has ten episodes. It's matt or maybe thirty episodes. It's a huge thing. He's had success with every single thing. The PEYTON Manning's ever tried to do satellite live. Everybody says it's the greatest athlete edition of Saturday. Eleven it's history. You're talking about pizza. Deal where he got out of IT BEFORE PAPA. John John schnatter decide to ruin his entire company. Payton was already out of everything that Payton has done has been the right move every. And if you if you really look at it from afar or from close you just be like you know what that guy makes a lot of good decisions not just on the football field that guy to run for president if you wanted to and I think he would win by the way because that's all Peyton operates and when Payton was offered up Monday night football last year in the year before that there was always reasons he didn't he didn't WanNa have to critique. Eli on a Monday night. Football game because he loves his brother. Gay. That was always what the public reasoning was. Then last year was the same thing then this year whenever they want after Tony Romo and turn around and said no. I'm staying at CBS. And then whenever they want to try to trade for Al Michaels from NBC and it came out that NBC said. No thank you Peyton. Manning was the person that ESPN wanted for Monday night football. The Jason witten thing didn't go great booger McFarland thing. Didn't go great the Internet. Let them know that these were bad choices and they were going to go all in this year. I Will Tony Romo now peyton manning. They're saying they were going to pay him. Twenty million dollars a year to be the Monday night. Football color commentator now. I will say that the commentators schedule is much worse than you could imagine. You're in that city for three days both before and afterwards you're kind of just your meeting. You're doing this job. It's a real job. It's not like you just show up unprepared and just do your thing. There is a time commitment involved. So if you're retired it might not be something you want to do. But for twenty million dollars a year in one of the most prime time positions and all the football the main peyton manning being in Monday night football would have been massive for everybody for NFL. Fans it would have been great to hear. Old Peyton. Manning's brain spew out onto the national network. Whenever the Games being played it would have been nice to hear him break down things that he see. And just like Tony. Romo's able to do it. Would've been nice to have peyton manning in there but now for the third time peyton manning has said no to him one day before his forty fourth birthday he turned down a potential five hundred million dollar deal to do Monday night football. And I want to say Peyton manning that I'm bummed about that. I think he would have been very very good in there but do all roads for this Monday night. Football job lied to me. Do all roads lead to me. I don't know I'm not. I'm not a hundred percent sure and I'm probably get yelled after even talking about this by who knows who who knows what I'm sure some people Ju- but do all roads come through Indianapolis Indiana for that Monday night football. I mean we're at the point now where nobody wants to job now granted. I'm sure there's a lot of players out there that would love to get that Gig and I'm sure there's a lot of people with because it's the super bowl every week it's different. It's on Monday. Night it is Bam Bam Bam Babo. Ma'am I mean it's a big deal and boy what a massive role that you're sitting out there and they have not hit on the last two. I think that I think the world thinks that and I don't think that's Booger McFarland or Jason. Whitten's fault I just think it's a scenario where you got a lot of eyes on you so when you get thrown in the deep end there you have to be able to swim. If you struggle at all people are GonNa say there seems to be a lack of confidence. A lack of a lot of things in there and people will notice it. But boy what are they going to do with that role? Nobody knows but there's this company in Indianapolis Indiana that you just keeps chugging along and every day the pass is the price goes up. What happens is is the way it goes. There's no well get off for that Gig but I'm excited to see who they end up with now that they've tried Tony around Mo- they tried Peyton manning haven't been able to give. Who Will they be able to get? I'm excited to see you being the humble human that you are you've always said there's no way you get that job but was not humble. It's like Arne said that nobody can touch me on a microphone. So that's not really that humble more like a a reality type thing confident. I'm very confident. I mean there's there's nobody can really keep up with me especially whenever I put it into top gear like this. There's people that it'd be listening. He needs to slow going to talk about my football team out there. Well you need to speed up. You're listening won't be that big of a problem but it's a realistic thing. There's no way they would give all even saying that like when the odds came out a month or so ago when they were trying to trade from Michael's and Blah Blah Blah. There was Romo Manning in the third favourite was McAfee. Like vagus isn't a real thing. I know it's a grassroots groundswell for McAfee plus four fifty. The bureaucracy may not want it but the people want it. You know you in the mob. You Win Rome so what we've always said you know that's like a quote but I'm not one hundred percent sure that that particular matters when it comes to this type of world remember. There's only a few people that are in charge of these things back. There's only a few people now. Will they hire somebody. That'll be intriguing for fans. I think they still. There's a couple of candidates out there that you could potentially go get. I think there's a couple of people that could go get it but boy I think all they're worried about is one hundred percent saving the legacy of Monday night football. I mean they have to this point Joe. Tessa tour booger McFarland. For whatever reason it was not well received by whatever reason you're thinking in your head Kay probably the reason why and by the way there's numerous reasons but there just wasn't well received by some people I I didn't hate it because I like. Joe Never Really met book. But I like Joe's a person so I didn't hate it but people did right in the Whitton one same thing I mean for whatever reason the win so this one. They have to hit on for the legacy of Monday night. Football in whenever you're getting publicly turned down. That's a very interesting scenario to be in there. What do you do next to shoot are shot at the moon again? Do we try to make this? All Public Service knows. I'll Michael's can't do it. Tony Romo Says No. Peyton Says No. That's not a great look. I Don I mean. They're being dominated by every other network every other network. Has this a team? That is very good and espn can't find someone to compete with that right. It's like Herbie is so good herbstreet. But he's the voice of the actual voice of college so it's like I think that's the difference between ESPN and everybody else is there. A team is actually on the college football. You know thing now granted. Were they assuming that that Monday night? Football Gatewood beat the booth. I would assume so but whenever you got. Herbie herbstreet is speaking he. So smoothed by the way I feel like he's got two remotes on Earth telestrator. He's got it all down. You know what I mean but I will be excited to see what they do with. Try to somebody from another broad are from another network again. Well they tried to move up throughout they try to talk somebody who has done nothing out of Jay Cutler for instance he hasn't really been into football world do you go get Jay Cutler. Because you know he's built up a cult following if he knows football as well as I would assume an. Nfl quarterback knows football. He could potentially be a guy that can do good in there. Just don't let's say they do pick you. Who would you want the booth with you? I Love I love Stevie. Oh I absolutely love Steve. Levy I am by the way I even whenever I put out a tweet about Monday nights being open and Andrew Marshawn from the Post. Talk about how. It's not to talk about somebody else's role so you know I'm okay being the third person in there like I'm very okay. Being person in the booth now going to do I think I could be the only guy I think I could. I absolutely good but if it's going to get some legitimacy to have an NFL quarterback in there and then my questions that I'll be able to get out of that person to you know but I love Steve Levy I love. I love scale of Hasselbeck. Everybody knows that I feel like man. Hasselbeck Nice groove there in that college football where we knew nothing about those players football games. We knew nothing about those but we had a good time. I mean I think that is what I will say. Those games were a good time like learning how to do it and stuff like that. But we're hitting the groove right soon's it was ending and then I didn't get to do the ball game with them because I was part of Jesus Ball. Aj Hawk would be hilarious to AJ. Could you imagine Monday night? Football Steve. Leave the comedy. I can't imagine it. Yeah it's sucking out. That can dream about it though. It's not gonNA happen. I don't I don't get it. You know what? You don't exactly why you know exactly why wouldn't happen. We've got a chance to kind of look behind. I mean when we made that run last year for the GIG and I thought we had a chance I thought there was a legitimate Chanson and then now that I've you know behind the curtain a little bit. There is no chance there is not you know how many people are working working with each other. In that whole I mean there is just not once you see behind the way these things operated is very interesting to be like okay so now it makes sense to me and that's why. I think I'm about ten years away from them Monday. Football good. Whoever they hire next. We'll give them a decade run. And then we'll get that next generation of executives will probably be our go or they just find someone who's another one year running neck just continue to fail huge possibility that is also. I guess an option. I mean that is an option. But will you tank for to you you you you have another year where you could potentially find a free agent out there because Greg Olsen by the way we're supposed to go to Fox and get a big GIG and then he came back to play another year? Who Else Gronk was talked about bronchoscopy? Wanting did that Fox dance like a buffoon in the box going after. There's no reason to go after like that. I'm Gronk Fan. I hold on it. There's no reason after I don't know if studio show is his thing I enjoyed was saying but once again it seems not everybody did but a lot of people hate how I talk so I kind of feel for Gronk if you listen gronk saying there is some gems in there. His delivery though some people probably standoffish. Because he's you know he's he's drunk all the time. Would you do Rex Ryan? That's Oh that's right. It'd be perfect. That'd be perfect. I've said it's all wood floor. I told my agents. I was like let the people. Espn know that. I could learn how to play by play tomorrow by the way and I got a text back. You think they're going to let you do play by play of Monday night football and you've never done play by play before I was like I don't think third man in the booth. I'm just telling you these are things that we can throw out there. But I think I think for me to do that. You're going to pay me at least twenty million or at least at least that's going right. I mean I don't set the market Tony Romo and Peyton manning did. I'm just excuse me I just want to call a game. Love of the asking for the Franchise Tag Basically. I mean you being polite really right now. Sandal has the easiest futures but in the history of futures. I was scrolling around. 'cause you know. I'm getting a little which that I'd like the scratch. I start going through some futures bets on Fan. Don't because there's obviously no live betting right now so I'm not to the futures bets and they have a prop out there on who win more Games next season New England patriots or the Tampa. Bay buccaneers the New England Patriots. Who JUST LOST TOM? Brady? Calvin Roy. Offensive Line Coach special teams coordinator Jamie Collins Jamie Collins basically a lot of staples in that world gone no salary cap related make any moves. A lot of draft picks which we would assume bill. Belichick is going to do well with the guy named jared stood on probably quarterback stardom who yes thought this thought stem or the Tampa Bay buccaneers. Who HAVE ESPECIALLY IF THEY SIGN? Antonio Brown we'll have the most talented wide receiver trio potentially in the history of the game in the history of all the football. Potentially if you bring in Antonio Brown without Antonio Brown you still have to receivers that combined for twenty six hundred yards last year. You have an offensive system with Bruce Arians and Tom Brady coming together in a bunch of og coaches including Clyde Christianson has been quarterback coach for the last thirty years in the NFL and Byron left which has been around the NFL forever. In Tom Moore who was backup to Johnny United's back in the day? You're talking about a coaching staff on an offense side who are a lot of brilliant minds who I assume. We're GONNA try to make life as easy as possible for Tom Brady. Which was probably a part of a conversation. That's Brady and Peyton manning had because Peyton manning has a direct relationship with a lot of those coaches Tom. More Christians in Bruce Arians close Byron left which was the Sumi knows him but I assume that conversation was one that was potentially mitigated through. Peyton manning about a place that would let Tom. Tom let him have a little bit more control. Even though it's coming out to Tom didn't ask for that but a mind coming the other. All some of the greatest minds in history of football come together excluding Bill Belgium some of the greatest minds coming together in one team with an urgency that they have to win now with the defense from number thirty two in the NFL to number five in the NFL with Todd. Bowles and let's assume they're not going to be set up in bad positions with turnovers happening at a rapid rate. Thirty eight of them just by James or whatever that defense is going to be even better with an offense that maybe plays smart football. I think the Tampa Bay buccaneers not only get more wins than the New England Patriots next year. Not only is that the easiest bet I've seen on fan during a long time as a futures bet minus one ten for both of them even money there for both team. I think the Tampa Bay buccaneers but to actually go on a run through the NFC through the entire end. I think the Tampa Bay buccaneers potentially end up in a super bowl IMMI- riding the wave of. What have you done for me lately? Am I forgetting that? The San Francisco. Forty niners rush for one hundred and eighty six yards before contact the NFC championship game. In my forgetting that drew brees exists in the same exact divisions Damp Bay buccaneers. Am I forgetting that? Aaron Rodgers one of our best friends whose faces hanging top our show at all times. Am I forgetting that he's in the NFC onto saying with the minds? That are down in Tampa with Tom. Brady potentially being the missing piece a veteran smart winner of a quarterback with all of that talent. I don't think you can rule out the Tampa. Bay buccaneers making a super bowl run in inevitably running into one of the young guns or all Big Ben in the Super Bowl. And that's how confident I am that that bet on Fan Dole about. Who's going to win? More Games next year. The Tampa buccaneers or New England. Patriots is the easiest. Bet I've ever seen you bring out your hammer. You whip out your hammer your social distance and what that thing out is hard as you. Can you take that and you swing it not only like a windmill dot but you swing that thing to try to break the button on the fan thing and you pay 'em the Tampa Bay buccaneers from ten on. Who gets more wins? Tampa Bay buccaneers New England. Patriots laid out all the positives for the bucks. I'm not seeing many wins here on the Patriot schedule. Play that game bills L. Texans billions chiefs L. Chargers Tai. They taught ramps. They win against the rams dolphins they lose to the Dolphin Steles again they lose to the bills provinces they lose to the Gulf debts may beat the jets. Branca's depends on what the broncos greater. What's that raiders? They beat the Lakers niners. They lose to the Niner Ravens. They lose the Ravens seahawks. They lose to the seahawks cardinals. They beat the cardinals. That's four and twelve campus is going to get at least five. Let's let's assume that the Tampa it's going to get at least I don't. I don't think we've lost the dolphins twice and the bills twice. They stay in five years. But you lost the dolphins whenever you guys were in the middle of Your Dynasty. I couldn't even fathom what it's going to be like. No no shot especially Van Noy flow in the boys Downer Ryan Fitzpatrick. Oh you lost the dolphins into Wigley. Would you chance get a first round of been four twelve in March but here we are? This is your new normal. I guess this is your new so gave Tom. Brady your whole posse Tampa schedule. That's cupcakes city guides over me. Play the Lions Win. Geez tough bottom. Rows winds payers DOB. Vikings could be tough to be honest. I think stink next year. The Vikings suck why because they don't have Stefan Diggs got thrown. His Helmet. Got No other weapon. Besides Adam feeling how rude off Dalvin Cook disrespect? Yeah I I don't respect. I picked him to win the Super Bowl last year. Walk McAfee and Hawk although we wish it was McAfee Hawk and what pistol we walk. Pistol pistol is. Aj Hawks father. He will be a guest on the show at some point. He's one who raised the man sitting to my left. Your right misery Jayhawk. How's IT GOIN' aged? Oh it's going. Well Pat good to be here. Pistol will probably appreciates the shadow. I don't know if he's watching live right now. He'll sit at some point though if he's not watching live so yeah appreciate that appreciate you. Lifted his spirits up in this time pistol understands the technology does the YouTube. Oh Yeah Pistols. Kinda guy that wakes up at four fifteen every morning reads the paper just naturally wakes up but he for years and years now I give them credit. Sixty two maybe. He reads the paper on his IPAD. So he transitioned. Wow good for him. Good for I'm proud of him. I'm proud of pistol making that depth there to the modern world. Your GonNa wake up early every morning to write five. Yeah a little after five. Maybe his hands a hawk hobby. Doing I enjoy it. I mean that's my time. I got four kids. So that's my my time when? I can work out and have a little bit of silence. So it's fun. It's a good little start my day. What's your alarm? What's the sound? Thank my up a time to kill whatever the default I sing is I guess all I use really you know I used one of those little buzzers that they make him for deaf people and I I took to court four quarters of of sign language. Esl When I was in college and it's a little vibrant thing you put under your pillow and it Bluetooth to your phone and it does under your pillow but my wife got a little upset because I would try to likes news that thing every once in a while when I was behind her head or in the drawer next meeting and be so loud. I don't those. Don't work that well for me. I'll hit that's new seven eight times if I have to. I mean I am not scared to hit that. I have so many aspirations the night before when I set that alarm and then bang that morning. Whatever it is goes off and I'm like I need at least nine more because nine more nine more nine more than Sam next to me is like no more get the fuck out of the house. It's an interesting thing there. Whenever you know your life is share. I'm not good in the morning. She's the Best Sam. My Lady Sam is a just a bundle of joy in the morning. It's a new day. We're starting a new. Let's go Ford. I've never been around shoes sunshine in the morning. I was never liked that. She's changing me a little bit but I still can't get up at five am WANNA go work out. I don't know how you do it. Yeah I wouldn't want to get up and go work out a big group of people or anything like that especially right now but yeah when I can go down in my basement and get a little workout in. Watch the clips. I WanNa see what happened that night and the day before and what's upcoming it's time for me. What did you like old man? It's like what old people do. I would say you're an old man and okay with that. You smoke cigars you get as banned from you to wake up five. Am Radio newspaper. Do the whole thing was doing a little thinking earlier today pat and I know Cubans eat you guys cut to him. He has cigar in his mouth. Every time does hand on your four year ten to twelve show that carried into this show a couple of days ago. Why wouldn't it be Cubans eat even though I understand? It's not lit matter still promoting. That is a very good question. A piece of sausage. I did not I did not expect you to potentially through zied under the bus but I guess that's what people do. Is they recognize each other. Throw him under the bus. But you're right. I never thought about Z. Potentially the reason why I'm not I'm not throwing him under the bus on what you're eating right now but To fuel energy drink he'll give me a little law. Get the feel. I can't believe you haven't dove into the Tom. Brady all amazing answers. He gave in his Houghton press conference he just had his his press conference was terrible. You didn't say anything. In the press conference a conference call to announce him as a buccaneer just happened on all the sporting a sport networks they had. It was just a call. A call. Don't know how we got missed as a piece of media potentially to ask a question heard a lot of questions in there. He gave no answers to high road on everything appreciate that. He said he did not decide to leave until the night whenever he went over and visited. Robert Kraft which was after the Derek Jeter Bill Gates owner of the lightning conversation. He was I had one foot out of the door. One foot still in door. Then he went all the way back in and tell crafts all the way out. I respect that. He said he did not think he was leaving before that. Who knows if that'll be the case? I don't know why Tom Brady would lie. But last night Tom Brady on instagram. Stan safe and healthy out there Just wanted to share with you. All some of the tips that we put together We're in a tough moment but I make sure you don't be not you. He can't claim it appears corona virus. Well well you say that because I want to Tom. Brady's Lincoln the bio he said that. Tb twelve has some things to boost your immunity the immune system and twelve of them obviously TB twelve number one have a positive mindset positive. Tb twelve mindset a positive mindset. Doesn't mean you ignore life's difficulties and challenges. It means you approach them in a more constructive and positive way like. Aj Hawk light. Tom Brady very similar. Tim Tebow does this. What's number two is stay hydrated K stay hydrated? Denver TO BOOST EMU drinking water to twelve method. I've already read this months ago. Really you eat your vegetables number three. You eat vegetables every single day. Try to keep them more though. Because you know Notre number four consume vitamin D. You know what I'm sane again six. There's a there's a vitamin D that you can get for a shot by the way I didn't know if you live in a place that doesn't have the sun for four months like the middle of America who ask you Alaska to six months light. You can just go ahead and get a get a shot at vitamin B. to if you're depressed individual B twelve gives you the energy Yeah they used to. Have you remember vitamin B? Shots used to have vitamin B. shots in your like like a like a shot alcohol. You drink it. Yeah no I never had that. I think they're just giving US fire. Engine before fiber consume essential fatty acids that summer five number SIP. Six Skip added sugar. That's probably why you started doing that. I did start skipping it and then I skip right back into it though number seven. Move for thirty to sixty minutes each day. I know play sixty something. But the TB twelve is thirty to sixty whatever you can figure out you do that at five forty five am. I rarely number eight. Get Extra Vitamin C. In your life number nine get some zinc in your life. Number ten eat lots of protein. Amen Number Eleven sleep and number twelve. Get probiotics in your diet. That's the TB twelve. Oh it's Brady's yeah it's Tom Brady's Oh yeah zinc do for you. It's I wasn't familiar with. I think it's like bananas. It's for Whatever you get cramp cramps. Think I think that's it. That's zinc yeah. Oh you're low on zinc gets them bananas Always say like you're cramping practice. All Pat you're low on zinc and getting. Yeah that's what we were saying. Yes reiterated here a lot of zinc and this thing here really. I'll get your blood flow. Eight percent now nosy nosy. Notice how Tom how they do that like. Of course everything he says is if we all did that you'd be healthier probably but the the wording the language is very important because you can get sued if you claim that you can do something of what he's doing a cure your or keep you from getting corona viruses just to to boost your immune these rough times. We're going through by the way God made and Click on the link. Soon as I saw Tom Brady was living with Rose Garden and background. And he's Tom Brady and said Hey. We got some ideas to build your immune system. I said I want to know what Tom Brady. Is Doing. Positive MINDSET CHECK GUARD. I got that one and then I want to all the other ones that. I don't think it's going to be possible. Get into a grocery store Tom. I can't get all the zinc and iron and vitamin and there's Anada can't do it right now. As everybody knows is a big pizza time frozen? Pizza aisles have been sold out since the beginning of time since the beginning of the nineteen inconsiderate. I'm guessing if you since you can't get into grocery stores to get all the essential is that you may need to solicit the twelve step process that Tom laid out. I'm guessing you can go online. And maybe order some of these products from from his website. Ca TB TWELVE DOT com. I assume everyone can even the average. Joe Maybe we don't you think that's part of the Patriot fan like you. I think that's the thing I've been on the website way too expensive for any around if anything it's inconsiderate. Tom Would have nobody to actually purchase it. Not Everybody gets twenty million dollars. Every two minutes like Brady. New England fans are handling it all very well very very positive way. He gave a lot of shots. In respect to kraft and Bill Belichick and Jonathan Kraft in this press conference colleague just at Andt. They didn't say anything about eater. He's sitting nothing but respect for the boys in New England are going to have a good team coach team next year. He took the high road when a lot of people in that conference scholar. Asking him to take the low road. And that's what. Tb Twelve. Does he take the path less traveled to the top of the mountain? Yeah he does I mean. Did you really expect to get anything out of it? What I thought would happen. It's Tom Brady. He's the the ultimate professional the polished pro. That's always going to say the right thing. He's not going to doubt he's not going to down play. Anybody GONNA pump everybody up around him that he's ever come in contact with I so he is but that was patriots. Tom Brady you know I wanted to heal Tom. Brady Down Tampa. You think Bruce you think. Ba want him to turn a little. He'll to come out loosen up a little bit budgeted outgoing. Who's got that stuff? Pent up inside you go and let them know about it. Tom Go ahead grow? Goatee say I want Tampa Tommy to come flying around? You know what I mean. Nobody's professional I mean. There was a lot opportunities for him to turn real. He'll in there and Bruce Arians he. He got asked in the middle of that conference. Call when Tom Brady became the top number one priority for him buck nears and he said he didn't know if they had a chance to get them and then basically like all the reports that have come out soon as he found them and I think by the way they showed three highlights on espn while he was talking. Those three highlights and Tom Brady shift from last year. They're going to win every game next year there. He is so good still. He made a couple of throws a net. Three three play highlight pathogen. Espn ran back and forth. There is a place where he had to move out of the pocket. He juked guy threw it over the talk. I mean I still think Tom. Now shawne Merriman thinks. Philip rivers is much better quarterback. Tom Brady is currently physically. I don't think that's the case like I think Tom Brady's still got it. I I still think he's got it and I think as big brain is only going to help the entire place down there. Am I wrong in thinking that is you know? I think you're exactly right. You could point to all the charts and different stats. People WanNA showed it to say like. Oh Tom was. He's not as accurate as he used to be. Armed strength seems to be fine. I don't think that's an issue. He's he was never super mobile. So that's not an issue. Either and I think his mental game is only getting stronger as he gets older and he sees everything so. I am not one to sit there and write tom off. Tom Is eighty five percent of what he was in his prime. That's still what top five in the NFL. Yeah and he he's eating all Zinke you With that positive mindset him in Walberg Well Mark Wahlberg plays nine holes of golf before you've even fucking sneeze be. I'm trying to figure out how he plays Golf before. It's light these base speed golf. Do He's not looking for those balls. He just thinks where they land he drops a new ball and then he thinks we're that one land and he putts and then he goes he goes through. He shoots he shoots a forty for nine holes. He goes through forty balls. Each ball is just guest to where it's headed and then he just drives it drops a new ball. I think one here. Oh I've missed this one. Maybe I'm off the green. Let me drown here. And he's not even searching just It's just a new ball for every single shot. Yeah and then. All of a sudden he gets done with nine holes and it's five fifteen. The son has even thought about coming up yet. He's go what's next on my list. Okay cool down smoothie time have my scheduled family time well and also Bible study. Yeah I think that's before all that stuff very true at that fancy tournament that you plan. Yeah he I don't know if he's ever played in Tahoe. He hasn't been out there. The last eight or nine years when I have played by seen him as like in pro-ams at different things on TV. But I don't know why he's not in Tahoe. Are you the longest tenured celebrity in that lake? Tahoe tournament. Not even close. There's a few guys like Jim. Mcmahon I think has come every year like thirty one straight years or something like that. She got nothing else. I Shaw come on time. I saw that That thirty for thirty on the bears was on ABC. I got to relive a little. Jim McMahon that dude was outrageous challenge. I've been around Jim a lot at play with them in Tahoe Multiple Times. He plays barefoot. I know like you do at times and I've been with different things. I think you Jim McMahon would get along very very well. He wore his bears Jersey. When the soup the Super Bowl White House visit third telling stories about them all just getting absolutely hammered on Thursday nights. And there's videos of Jim McMahon of practice just laying on all the pads obviously hung over on a fast Friday and the Games on Sunday. I mean just the way they were living over there and then the Roselle headband. Just the whole thing. That guy was savage. I guess he he has to. Where the sunglasses right? That's what the like something. He had some injury when he was a kid. I believe something happened where he got jabbed the I buy something. So he's he's real sensitive to lights he always has the shades on. Who's at defensive coordinator? Tony Soprano tiny's Bronson thing. Yeah you're right yeah. He wears sunglasses inside and all that stuff recipes passed away. Yeah yeah he did right. I was sad damn really. Did people love that due to Tony? Soprano to people love that guy to Peter Him Liamine while the actor played the actor did but Jim Gandolfini James. I will respect. Thanks James Geez for other actors at work with them calm gym so I just stopped. I mean Oh is that. Out of Lake Tahoe first-name basis. They know each people that work with the NEO. Cohen Bob. All we call him. Bob Used to working with Bob. You know he's always you know he's a pro. He knows lines address hanging out. We're all telling you bob every once in a while who somebody met at that lake. Tahoe that you're like I can't believe this person. Is this call or this huge? Everyone out there is super cool. Michael Bolton was awesome. I think I've told you that before. Sings a grass. What Song what Song. When a man loves a woman I mean he can sing. He can sing. I knew my mom was big into Michael Boat back in the day so it was a big thrill for me when I saw the of who is playing with the next day. It was like yes. Michael Bolton this amazing he was. He exceeded my expectations for who he was did you. Hi Hi my name's Aaron Hawk. My Mom's Big Fan. Yeah definitely told them. My mom was a big Fan. He was excited. Do you get star struck around a lot of people. Yeah of course I. I don't want to bug people side. Never like want to go up and introduce myself or say something to somebody every once in awhile man you just big fan of people. WanNa say man. Just appreciate your work. Hey they know. Aj Hawk like that's a name. Everybody knows hi I'm. Aj Mother Hawk. They know that name. That's the name everybody knows. Yeah I don't think you're you're obviously wrong but It's weird you go up and talk to people like say you see somebody not a media personality. Let's just say anything athlete? Who Ever do you ever go up into hayward just want to let you know man like your Alexa stuff Mike Francesa I want. I let him know he was he walking into my award show that I was winning in the House Radio Heisman. Yeah yeah the HEISMAN radio and he showed up and I saw him actually outside through the glass I saw him talking to somebody and I waved and I saw him with his hand away from me and now came to moment like do you think Mike Francesa had any idea who the fuck you was just waving to. He comes inside. There was a big long line to go downstairs. So we're kind of hanging out in the lobby and I go right over to him. I go gotta do. I don't ever do this. I literally never ever do this. And I was like Sir. It's an honor to meet you and goes. Hey how's it going you know and we talked for like four minutes before he said my name and I because I didn't think he knew my name Foxy came over and started filming our and he was like talking to me and then he would just stare at foxy and then he'd be talking to me and then he actually goes Amigos. This guy's just recording everything. I'm saying right now. That's my guy he goes. Oh is that right. And then he starts talking to the camera and then he goes. I've been telling people this is the next guy right still hadn't said my name. This is the next guy and I'm like oh he doesn't know my name and I'm not going to help them out here. I'M NOT GONNA I'm GonNa see what happens in yours. I Topi McAfee the next guy and I was like. Oh he knows house pumped up about that but for ancestors for those four minutes though pat do you think he was. He was in his brain smash smash show is he just kept going through it and he's like Oh man. If I could only get this program for my back pocket that has like the list of events tonight we get a glimpse of WHO this guy is. I know I know. I can't put a face a name. He's a kicker he's not. Bill Simmons Blue Chip Stock Tips Though. Yes every said everything he said. Stock Market Wise is has really made a move. It has made a move. Was He giving you private stock? Like I wouldn't by the way that's how we ended the interview. Is he him given stock advice here? I'm into stocks. Here's some for you guys. And one of them was zoom which is doing very well. Railing zooms rushing. Slack is the other one gave in at one weight. Did he know something that we didn't know this was before the Krona virus? Obviously Zoom is something that people use to work. Now Yeah Teleconference. In what was the other one said slash email thing slack? Just get straight to the same thing. Yeah Yeah Slack. Yeah well that's well. Maybe is that insider trading if you were gone out and bought a bunch of it right then I don't. I don't do the stocks but I appreciated the fact that he gave the people that do do the stock something to bet on because Francesa's always right so anyone knew a global pandemic was coming was a sport coat national treasure Mike Francesa other than Michael Bolton. Who Somebody you like. Kinda got scared to go say hello to Michael Jordan. Used to play. He hasn't been there in the last five or six years but yeah Jordan was the guy still sell the time towards the best ever group watching him everything about him. He's the man what I guess he is the best ever. Yeah I well. He was one one guy I was like. I didn't know what to do and I. I was stuck at a walk past him on the putting Green Sony. Think about it. Don't even think about you. Baby just walk off the Green. What do I did believe me? I was like my brother was cat. Who Kennedy's for me out. There was sitting there and he's came and Jordan's like chicken over there Okay and I was torn. I'm like I don't know what to do talk to him but there's no way I'm going to and I was sitting there. I literally fumbled through my bag. Like I was looking for something until he was leaving just to try to. I don't know I freaked out. I blacked out as he walked by me. He's smoking a cigar walks by me and I was like I was bending over. I'm like bending over. Okay here we go fake doing something and he like patted me on the ASS. He's like congratulate. J. And I was like a gross like my wife solid. My brother was there and he's like what what just happened. I don't know who he thinks I am. But Luckily we had just won the Super Bowl. A year previous. Maybe idea we wanted and I was like yeah. Cool take this thing. Why did you go with Mike? Mj Mr Jordan healthy. I caught him anything. It all going through my head. I mean that was the most like most anxiety ridden moment of my life and excited at the same to home. My what a moment. You could never fathom being ben over in front of Michael Jordan whenever you realize acknowledges your existence that's a while you never prepared for that you can never really prepare for. That cannot prepare for no so. I was greatly appreciative of that that that really gave well pep in my step show went out there and shot like one hundred. Fourteen that demagoguery. You talked to Him. Sensors one ask slap thing that's it. I fear that that was our only interaction we will ever have. Was He wearing his rings now? He was not wearing any rings. I don't think you guys will ever talk to each other good. I'd say it's a safe bet. Yeah that's a shame. You had to have that story that nobody else has could've bought it ever Cigar Almond Cigar. People he could have been Cigar magazine. Have you ever been on a Cigar magazine? No I have not. I don't think I'm like I don't know I don't know if I fit that. Demo of that like SMOKE CIGAR AFICIONADO. You do prostate legend here. He can't imagine I don't want to smoke cigars suit because I don't want to have to get the thing dry cleaned one time use. Well that's why you have seven of those fans in your house that's suck suck. It doesn't matter where you are. You still needed wash and dry cleaned. Whatever you're wearing is that true. I don't you can't wear that thing again before you wash it because it's just going to RICO CIGAR. It's like a bond me especially if you're smoking indoors yet. It's it'll be like who's the dude you dump gasoline on his whole body and walked into this room. That's that's how pungent it would be. I think I usually put my cigar bag on zero puts cigar bag on bag. Yes is trash bag over my head. Oh I have. I have three smoking jackets. Matt Flynn Guy. Really is like a long robe-like Hugh Hefner type thing and it's it's really thick and you can put it on to kind of keep the smoke off your your clothes. Oh so that's the purpose of smoke. I knew the Hugh Hefner had smoking jackets. Strictly that's just the bathroom. You just have a bathroom that you stole which is dubbed the smoking jacket but that is what that's four to cover up on your shit so it doesn't smell for the rest of the day. Oh my God is. He's done some level shots. I just looks cool. Pack smokers jacket. There's a bomber jacket. I just assume let game. Is that a smoking jacket be like? Nah I'm always smoking in this Jack. Hey I'm on fire ernest thing. What do you think you're doing a bomber jacket bomb planes? Yeah but but it is. It is it is not military move past the military. Yeah that's what I thought happened. Smoking jacket did now. I think people strictly schmuck well in a suit jacket. You don't suit things. Thank you sue people. That's not what suit in a suit. You Sue people. It's not like you're covered in soot stupid. What are you drinking in there and got a little fuel mixture? Yeah squad who you're about like pre-workout everything you just don't follow through with the actual workout. Oh Geez no me. Put that video that we just shot. I just got done. I just got done working pal. I just got done come on PA. Mean Cam Newton or working out right now. Is Your Yinzer accent you accentuated for the air at times right depends on what state of mind? I'm in I'm yet you do which I I love. I think it's great. I don't know how you don't laugh every time you like a nice hard like Yinzer line. Pittsburgh is the best accent. Yinzer accent is the best accident out there in for too long it's been buried. A lot of people told me that I'd have to eliminate that thing from my talking if I wanted to really get into this big time media business and I told them get the fuck Outta you. Need to have big Mike McCarthy on do do you have his contact we get him on the show. The head coach of the Dallas cowboys would be a good fit. Aj into. I don't know if you've got a new number or not try so we're one to number same number. I don't I gotTa Look He. He's not he's not the most like he's not an open book with the media. I would say you're not the media we're not the media we're McAfee hawk. Sports Talk Video. Oh this is my workout earlier. There's volume because it's on my excuse me and thank you thank you. Let's get ready. We hit another one. Maybe you're looking at kids. Quick turn quick spin and dead old floating. You didn't even jump awesome. Who's not working out. How that's midday. Palm wearing a harness. Easy looked down. That was just now. I could see how you could think that because the Olympics are gonNA move. You might think. That's a gymnast. Now that was me. Do you should do for routine that was me rating you should see what the streamer oh the dance streamer thing. Yeah bummed about the Olympics. Getting postponed to your. I'm being serious when I say that. I become a massive America disgusting cheering pig during the Olympics for America I do. I love it sports that I care zero things about any other time. I become a fanatic about. I love it. I hate the judges. I love whenever America wins. And I'm I'm Kinda bummed to be honest. It's postponed the year. I'm definitely bombed. It was fun. I think everyone enjoys watching the the track and field especially like the four hundred relays. The the one hundred meter dash obviously. Was there. Anybody you know any Americans that were competing in any events yet like one. That's had so much hype going into. Yes Oh ted. Ginn say Lolo is low. But John j-o-h-n Kayla decades. Like the most dominance all type shows to go back to school by the way instead of going pro after the last one on bio temperament. What swimming is there a league? That I don't know about skirt. Kevin Costner legend is what you do while you're alive or remembered after you're gone all is that from the movie screen is it called Coastguard. No Guardian Guardia Ashton. Kutcher movie right He's not the lines from that. Geez by the way for only like real serious movie that I've ever taken serious and I think I cried in that one. I think I cried in that one because I knew that some of them bitches down there saving people's lives I knew he was down there. The Guardian and you see the yellowstone was Kevin Costner. Yeah that's the one where he's dancing with. Wolves does TV show. There's a movie dancing with all these thirty years ago. Yellowstone takes place without big ranch in Montana. Legit basically Avatar say plotline basically it's not yellowstone oak. Yeah dancing with wolves they said is the same. Plotline his Avatar. I don't know it's like four hours long. I know that I don't know I'd have to go back and rewatch dance with wolves saw. I don't just watch Avatar best movie of all time. I don't know I disagree with that until I retire. To really fencing team was supposed to be really good for you. I saw that on Kellogg's karate was we'll be good. Always arthritis wrestling is wrestling in the Olympics was supposed to be this year. He got kicked data. Think for coming back was it coming. Back call was happening instead of wrestling. Yeah rugby last time ever Kuchar. What's his name I think? He slid into like a bronze medal in Brazil. We didn't win. We didn't win the Gulf now. Justin rose that. Where's he from England? All come on. That guy doesn't even know our table tennis team. It looks legendary by our table. Tennis team has shot unless they give front Kellyanne drew. They do have shut elaborate choice. They're all wearing the The dodgeball uniforms. You always have a shot. When we were dodgeball. Uniforms average joes. These are these are T. That's our that's our table tennis team. Yeah next year. They'll be playing table tennis against the rest of the world that might as well be a winter Olympic sport. I feel like it doesn't matter indoors. Tennis TABLE TENNIS TABLE INDOORS. I agree on site called Ping Pong. Yeah do you call corner bags in Ohio? It's absolutely cornhole one hundred percent. Okay Yeah you're right you're right. The bags are filled with corn. And they put him in a whole therefore it is cornhole easy. I don't know how to put with his bags. Microwaves squirrels you eat them. Yeah screw might. What does Shawn Watson Pat? He's liking tweets or something about bill. O'brien going into New England. Yeah I liked the tweet about going into England somebody joking tweet about bill. Belichick watching this all happened down there with the Texans and saying all he's coming here. He liked that tweet and then he also quoted emotionless by drake which is basically saying. You don't know yeah. I don't know how to make it out of here clean. Oh can't even keep track of who plays for the other team iconic duo's rippin split it seemed ha goodhearted men. Doing something is the next line being real mean. No no something though. The next line though says goodhearted Ben like making a bad decision of some sort. I forget how he words it and I think that's what he might have been referring to Billy Brian. Trade Deal Andrey options good art amendment. A bad situations think. That's what he was referred to. Yeah I mean it's weird weird like the fact that people we report on things that people read tweet and like on twitter and instagram. It's a weird time I think. Wow that's how you got to get to the bottom of storage these days and people won't tell the media anything YOU GOTTA. Watch what they're doing in private. What you do in dark will come to light. And if you're liking tweets in those those tweets are messaging from your brain that you can't say we're here to report it. That is our job at McAfee. Hawk sports talk. He liked the tweet by Tyler. Conway that says I'm just saying you could do better tell me. Have you heard that lately? Which is another drake quote and its Bill. Belichick on a phone on the sideline which is a legal but Shawn Watson liked the tweet which means the Shawn Watson found that comical. Does that mean to Shawn Watson wants to be a New England patriot. We'll never know at least for another year. But what is this Shawn Watson? Houston Texans look like going forward without his number one weapon imbroglios stage born and good luck. He's gotta be upset. The fact they brought Randall COBB. In which good what? David Johnson's the running back. Now heels revive his career they better hope that they can ground and pound as you say and then let let the sean uses athleticism and push the ball down the field and randall still as pointed an equal plenty of juice left. I feel like so you lose one of the most dynamic iconic receivers in the league though that you willingly traded away. That was for a bag of balls and doesn't understand the bill O'Brien Andrei Hopkins Saga. That's kind of gone on the what. They're the allegations that have been made Audrey Hopkins teammate. Speak and everybody else. Seems like he is like the model citizen like the model teammate. That raises everyone's level around him. He's a great dude. And you know in that Receiver Room Pat if you're number. One Stud player is onboard. He's a good influence. It has a gigantic impact on that team. Massive news massive news. I got a chance to watch. Reggie Wayne. Obviously with T. Y. Hilton Reggie had Marvin then. Ty became that guy that wide receiver. Rome is one where you need a guy that can lead by example in there. That is something you really need. Because wide receivers always very athletic always very talented have always kind of relied on their athleticism and in the NFL. It doesn't always work like that in the NFL. You have to be able to run good. Routes you have to put in the extra work with your quarterback you have to go to the judge machine you have to be able to read a Defence. You have to do a lot of things in in that position. It's not always something. That is a desire job so whenever you see you know who's very very good you see like okay. That's how this works. I gotta continue to do that. And I think that is a valuable resource to have on your team now. Granted the cardinals. Now have Larry Fitzgerald and Andrea Hopkins. I mean that is a wealth of riches for the Arizona Cardinals and Calamari and Cliff Kingsbury. But what the Texans. It's like. I don't know what the hell they do going forward. I have no idea what they do. Good Ted injured. I interviewed Ted. Ginn junior this morning and I am a euro teammates with him. I I would like Ted ginn junior to be on the colts. I would like Tekken junior to be on the packers. I was like Ted ginn Jenner to be on the Patriots Chat. Maybe the Texans I want to see Ted. Ginn have great success next year. That guy was awesome this morning. All those teams make a lot of sense but when you mentioned the Patriots I guess I didn't think about it until now they could get ted on a relatively cheap deal one or two years and the dude can still fly. We know that can still stretch the defense and open some things up but seems like a no brainer for the Patriots is go out there and kind of get a value signing and Ted Ginn. I agree and by the way Ted Ginn. I'm he said I'm not Jason Rings a much acing money I just want to play ball man us. WanNa Play Bull. GotTa respect your. He's been in fourteen years now. Thirteen next year. It'll be as fourteenth. He was an awesome interview. He was an awesome it. I've had to punt in before. He was a nightmare. A nightmare whenever. He's back there because he was just faster than everybody was now play with ten college. I watched him take plenty of kickoffs back and punt at anytime in the stadium. Would we when you have like an electric returner and the opposing team is putting in your team? Receiving the whole crowd like. There's this weird planner nervous anxious energy that builds up with the whole crowd. Like all right man. Give him give him a chance. They'll put it out of bounce in the dudes could make thirty people missing score. You should feel that what it's like to on the other side of that John. I played against Hester. I think my first game ever in my life I think has took the kickoff. For a touchdown he may have taken a punt back on us to jogging on the field. Though in the returners on right in the returner just does one of these to the crowd right. The whole crowd is like damn right now. It's fucking showtime pal. Get that Pun off in watches and go to work tyreek Hill Antonio Brown. There's another why would you ever punt to any of those guys? That's what I said and the other show. Was You punch out of bounds? When it's a guy like that who cares? We'll get up to ten or twelve yards middle linebacker. Just run through the offensive line and blow up every single run like. Why don't you guys do that? Because then they'll just hit a little pop password over the top in the middle. Oh is that right. No I'm about Troy Pall Mall reading the snap. Count blowing up the offensive line and tackling quarterback or the running back before the players and get started once. You guys do that every blake. You can't really do it. Every single play troy is one of the best ever. But you can worry about stats when it comes to you. Could technically. You're that good. You could punt the ball out of bounds every single time in a game if you want but it'll kill your stats and kill your chance for postseason honors and all of this stuff. Excuse me my job is to control. Fill POSITION WHY would we potentially lose out on the thirteen to fifteen yards a field position? Because you guys are scared for me to keep the ball in the field of play. Now we play the fair game. We wouldn't kick it out of bounce. I actually wasn't that great kicking it out of bounds to be honest with. You wasn't my thing. I mean I was like top five in punts out of bounds. I think every year but stopped three punts returned. But what I'm saying is it's not as easy as it looks just kicking out of bounds. You got six foot five six foot. Six guys sprinting in your face from either side. It's not easy just to do that. Aj We should dispel that myth. Right here on McAfee and Hawks Sports Talk. Yeah you're right. I mean I punted in high school. I have a little bit of an idea of what that feels like. I didn't have those type of athletes rushing rushing a camera newton to the chargers. You think yeah that or the dolphins seems kind of an intriguing place doesn't cam seemed like he'd fit in great in Miami or la like he loves the spotlight. He's got his own language that he writes in on instagram. Like why not? I don't know for some reason. I don't see Miami because I feel like they're going to get to our in Ryan Fitzpatrick and two are going to be a duo this year in my head. Cam Newton going to the chargers just feels like the right move for everybody. What kind of deal does he get there? What do you what kind of contract you have to give to get Cam Newton under team? It's going to have to be what he thought he was going to make. Already which is twenty one or twenty two million I think but how many so but no one gives him like a five year deal us. What two or three. Maybe a two year like forty four million dollar deal or something like that and kind of proved to us that you're healthy and your arms good and you're going to get back to the camera bold. Yeah that's what I think is going to have to happen. And I think by the way that's a good deal for charters and at the deal for Cam Newton Cam. Newton hates it and wants to get out of there in two years. He's out Cam. Newton loves it can re up after this year. I mean it seems like the right deal. Forty four million though is a lot less than Philip rivers. Tom Brady drew brees at this point so we accept that probably not assume but I mean who knows what about i. Guess if they feel like do you think to a place this year is he able to do you think he starts on the pup list or does he can be able to go. Hey that video of him. I think we have that video that video. He posted last night wearing adidas shorts. Adidas shirt in Nike Shoes. Yes so he doesn't have a deal yet. What are we doing? I don't know that's what I'm wondering too. Maybe because he wants to a Nike School is letting Adidas no like. Hey although I'm wearing the Nike cleats right now. Because they're most comfortable I could wear and his movement in that drill. Look very good. His hip surgery was the one that allegedly took Bo Jackson on his athletic career. Modern Science with medical is obviously moved forward but he looked very good. I think this can change the draft completely. I think people are gonNA trade up to go get them not that. They weren't before but I think this video on twitter. That doesn't even show a completion. By the way just shows footwork. I think completely changes the game. A lot of people are thinking move forward. Yeah so it's March. Twenty four th where he probably did that. March twenty third. I just wonder how far ahead he is of the schedule. I guess people thought he where he would be right now. The fact he's moving I don't care. He's always going to be able to throw the fact that he can move like that on the hip. That's what would be encouraging for me. If I was thinking about drafting the guy I gotta go to the bathroom. I saw someone on twitter. Say that the one to which one are you doing? He didn't say he didn't want the real issue. I wish I had a law of Mike and he kept on the real issue with two in. His hip is in if he can come back. It's if he can sustain and be durable with it because I guess done Dennis. Pitta had something similar in his hip popped out again. That's forced him to retire yet. Well Dennis Pitta I remember. I was sad like he every time he would make a comeback would pop out again and see much. It was so paint or you felt for the dude so that too has a similar thing to that. That's what I read. Yeah I wonder man like I don't know I. Yeah I don't know that's what the tough decision like do you trust. And also who's going to be able to get their hands on and really check them out right now right now. The no-one no-one before the draft I saw they're using third party. Docs they're letting US thirty party. Dogs but teams are obviously GONNA WANNA get their own guys. Get their hands on didn't they? They just said now in the league. Just come out and say no. You can't even go see any doctor now in person. You can't physical. Yeah but they can't use third party. Oh you can't okay. So wherever to is as in Alabama wherever work I can go to a doctor there though yes. You just can't see like you obviously can't go to an NFL facility and see their team. Karenina okay so nothing really changed then. No I asked us to pat earlier. Would you rather have to a with his injury or Cam with his injury history? If you're like say you're the chargers and you think you get up and get to or would you rather design cameras. A free agent. I would probably side with to a right now. Because CAM has his arm. He throws different now from what it used to it. He had shoulder surgery so I don't know how a anytime a quarterback has any kind of throwing arm issue. Marietta has the the elbow nerve damage type thing. That's what scares me too. It is hit pops out. Yeah that's A. That's a rough thing if it continues to happen but if his arm stays healthy any somewhat mobile I would feel confident with tour and then like this video comes out and he and he looks pretty healthy if he would have never got injured would he have been ahead of borough so now that this healthy video comes out. Is there any chance that the bengals start thinking maybe over borough? Wow I mean if this one video can sway the bangles or other teams that it's a crazy thing to think of. I don't know man. It seems like boroughs the number one without question but who knows man the bengals trade out of the pick. It's something to think about because literally two months ago before three months ago however long was if he does get hit. It doesn't get hurt like we probably have no idea what the bengals are doing. It number one. I guess you're right but yeah where where. Where would people be week? When did get hurt? It was like November December. Yeah Novem how do people view the number one overall pick between him and borough at that time before to got hurt? Well I know the beginning towards the beginning of season. It was like tank for two. Because borough hadn't come on yet. I'm not exactly sure where they are. Ranked went to got hurt though. I don't know I there's no talent like who's going to be the better pro but it seems like Joe Borough checks all the boxes. But Amy and it also comes down to what the situation they're put in the team around him the coaches around them and both heat. Both these guys are going to be going to teams that are somewhat rebuilding. So it's GonNa be tough either of them but it does doesn't it seem like two of Miami just seems like comfortable? It seems right. Yeah I mean him being from Hawaii. I think this is a natural conclusion. It definitely makes them in that climate. Put them in that environment commercials down. They're having with fitzpatrick he can learn to just feels like Miami is the spot for two yet does and just wonder what the Patriots GonNa do. Guy Right comedies. The Guy I love stood him. He's basically a White Cam Newton But we'll see trade up and try and protect maybe. Get him a weapon. Yeah I don't know man it's okay so when you ask pat about it when he gets back so the LA rams they are set up awfully terrible for the future of Windsor next first round. Pick twenty twenty four D I. It was two three or two or three years from now. Like aren't they have all these cap issues? They don't have any draft picks coming up. They just did however they structured everything when they paid golf and girly it. Just screw the rest of the roster. I feel like obviously Aaron. Donald to study should get a billion dollars. But who do you bring anybody else in? Well they paid Donald. They paid BRANDIN COOKS TO PAY. Jalen Ramsey. So are they gonNA? Are they going to give him a long term deal? They have to write. They gave up to first picks game. You have to keep that investment there at least Geez. How do they feel like with with the CAP? They just seem they're going to have to get off to restructure his deal happen. We just heard pat yell. Oh my God so I don't know it must have not not sure we're not sure what happened in there. He should've taken the remote Mike with. I don't think I don't think that's what you want. He's back now. Going on. Boys are talking. Ram screwed gun new logo no they just paid Whitworth. Thirty Mil- thirty million thirty eight. I mean he's he's I play with them in Cincy. He's like the governor the mayor everyone. He's the old savvy vet but man. How do they keep paying guys? They they don't they. Don't the tug early got to the highest running back contract at one point the highest quarterback contract and highest D. Tackle contract and now three the highest contracts in the NFL at one point one roster and that was a fun. Those a fun run. They had but boy he just can't spend money like that and then expect a team to keep going. You know especially if I mean the jury's out if gough is the the answer if he's the franchise guy for you seems crazy. No Pat Camera. Because he's changing batteries again. This battery pack. That talking shit about golf is just not come on now or you weren't. No I said they said is the answer at quarterback is ten to twelve year guy to take you to the promised land. Take you back and get a win. I just took that as a slight. I don't know if Jared Goff is a guy by the way I I thought I've been saying this a couple of years and I got laughed out of the building when I first started saying in the rams. Were the team that I referred to because they had a quarterback on a rookie contract. They were able to build the super team super team. I mean you had studs from all over. Wade Phillips was running defense. Add like four or five first round draft picks in it. I mean the offense was loaded across the board. Then Ed Page Eric Gough. And then everything went downhill. Look to Seattle seahawks whenever Russell Wilson was on his rookie contract. Their pay up everybody around him. They obviously want to a cup soup. Bowls won a couple of super bowls. Or whatever then whenever they paid Russell Wilson. They went downhill. So I said the model is going to be you cheap quarterback and you build up a super team around him and then you recycle and restart in everybody's well. You can't do that because if you get a good good quarterback you have to pay you have to pay him. You have to pay him well. If that good quarterback isn't an elite quarterback is a quarterback that can win games all by himself without anybody else. Then you're basically just leveraging and hemorrhaging cash against yourself with paying that quarterback in your team has no chance I think golf is the test subject that for both sides of it. Whenever they had a super team they were very good very relevant golden circle now next year. They lose girlie one of the most. You know he's running back. Whatever happened last year with his degenerative knee and all that stuff. They lose him. Probably GONNA LOSE. Brandin cooks that team be able to survive in. I don't think they will be able to now. It's not just golf. There's other big contracts as well but that team with their new logo. New Stadium is about to have a very new normal. Which was the old normal. Which is I think they're gonNA stink. And I don't like it because I like Aaron Donald a lot and I like the couple but I think they're gonNA stink. I don't think they have enough to really feel too good team at this point and I think it's because of the way the contracts were set up that they want all in and then now you're you know Kinda fucked. Yeah they went all in. They didn't win. They got the super bowl name. They lost the barn burner with the Patriots. What was the final score? Thirteen to three ten three hundred thirteen three up. What a weird super bowl. That was so great. Are you worried about the chiefs then? Moving forward once they pay pat. Mahomes two hundred Mil. The chiefs only have like five hundred and fifty thousand dollars in cap space right now or something like that. They're like the least cap team in the League right now somehow and they're still conversation about them extending Patrick Mahomes and they don't have to until at least next year but if Patrick Mahomes is a guy by the way that I think I think he can I think Batman's a guy you keep in your in your facility and so you think so. You think he's coming home taking a stand there. I'll I'll do take right now. I think Patrick Mahomes is one of those guys who want to gain by himself. But I do guys clip it hanging out soothe things. So it'll be interesting to see that team after they pay him and have to pay other people. What happens with it because that's the that's the tale of the NFL. You start having success. Everybody starts getting wanted in jobs. More money obviously teams that can withstand. That are impressive. Which takes us back to the Patriots. Being good for twenty years probably never happening again for anybody else. That's why it was cool for you to be a part of that connor in a positive light but now you've probably experienced what the Detroit lions fans have had to experience. We got stood on steady. Is The guy said? He was a white Cam. Newton Cam Newton Yeah. Why why does everything about rice? While you're right and Brian Hoyer off. That dude signed chance to start radars. Eighty five years old. We need the future. Here knows the offense veteran coach on the field stinks. Does he will be a great mentor. Force them league coach's Kid. He threw good ball last year. He just threw it to the other team. That was the thing when he played for the colts through a good ball. I liked his. You know his Moxie seem like he was ready to go to the other team all the time out. Why is this breakthrough run a ball the other team? You're right though. Pat That is definitely the motto especially now a win rookie. Contracts Are Kinda slotted. And you're not getting fifty mil guaranteed right off the bat if you're the number one overall pick if you can draft a quarterback. He can start his rookie year. Not at the very beginning. Let's say he's he steps in halfway through his rookie year. You have like a three year window where you can bring in some pieces around him and you. You hope that that quarterback is a franchise guy that he turns into a one hundred. Eighty million dollars quarterback that you have to pay a great problem to have but you have like this three year window when he's on his rookie deal when you came in and we need to hit it hard right now because there may be a couple years of struggle once we ended up paying this guy trying to figure everything else out. I think in the future. We're GONNA see teams break. Their quarterbacks hearts just like Jameis Winston has happened to James Winston with the Tampa Bay buccaneers. I think we'll see it a lot. More going forward where a player will get drafted. He'll play good football. Not Great football good football for his first contract in the team decided to move forward in that player will have to go play somewhere else. I think that's going to happen on a much more regular basis especially if the tides. Keep turning in this fashion. Where anytime you break off a quarterback it feels. The team doesn't have as much success as it did before. Absolutely and think about it if there's ever a team that's not gonNA have that won't have quarterback around for fifteen or twenty years again. It's the New England patriots. What how how would you have to play on a rookie deal as say you're still yeah? How great would you have to play for the next two or three years for them to give you one of these quarterback deals like never give you one of those deals Auto Denver so well keep to Lebron Rob Niche have told us that the way those go is? We don't care what you've done last year we just want to. We're betting on what you're going to do next year. What if Steph was just hitting his prime and they think the next year is going to be even better than it was before they can have to pay him moral bill belichick somehow and that conversation telling him he's lucky he's even getting offered a half of a half a million dollar contract which is basically what how? I think those conversations go. I mean we still could go in there. Play pretty well. He'd say. Hey coach arm in the open market. I can get five years hundred fifty mill and bills like okay. That's cool Well we are going to offer you two years seven million dollars with incentives and it could get up to seven point five. So that's how good you are. I wouldn't go out there. That offer will fall through whoever you think is giving it to you. That's where you are right now and he'll probably sign it. Every player for team was better. Fucking football don't you stay here have so much fun. You can't handle it and make a lot less money and we're just GONNA win. Find Your Brazilian supermodel. You can say if you win. You can do everyone though man. It's true I give the Patriots credit like you're winning. You can't really argue with the way they're going about it just not gonNA happen ever again. Never not can't happening. It's almost impossible. We'll see patriots fans man. It's it's there's always the chance of Bella check just spouts. Twelve wins such huge chance. Not that huge but it is a chance that it happens and that would be a shame but if next year they're seven and nine eight nine and seven and then the year after that again they're like nine and seven eight then the year after that somebody gets hurt. Maybe they're five an eleven. You know what happens if that's the Patriots Fan. We as a society are pump to watch if that does happen but also we have lived through a time where they have been nothing but successful for the last. What Twenty Years? So if their success continues. I guess we'll be able to manage as well but they're going to be louder than they've ever been if they go and win without Tom Brady. It'll be amazing to hear. I mean I can't write him off. I can't sit here and say the Patriots aren't going to be any good but also another quarterback I wanted to think about for the Patriots. Possibly drafting what about Jordan Law that a Utah state big tall athletic dudes alive arm? They probably would have to move up a little bit in the first round the game but I could see them getting a little excited about Jordan. What about Julian Adam? And then what about them? Join THEM IN. Live arm spirits athlete. Put Him a quarterback. He knows the offense. Those you offense. Yep Excuse me J O o those people choking coughing okay. How about the cold. Say Not Tom Brady. We talked about that enough is. Did you really think do think Tom's people don yee I believe is his agent. Do you really think Don Yee reached out Caja. Just gauging your interest. Tommy would love to strap it up and you're white and Blue Peter King. Peter King's a legendary journalist. He's not just a report. Things aren't facts. You're right Peter's with Tom to like Peter. Gets ONE ON ONES WITH TOM. And I I would assume Peter King wouldn't be very excited to go back and listen to the show yesterday when you set opener kings little blog. He's writing like kings not a blogger. Peter King as a journalist. I write this. Show me numbers. How many people read it? That's all I care about. Peter King Saul I care about to show me. The numbers did to show me the numbers. So Fontana people aren't reading it you say. Is it not good then? No I'm just saying if he wants to disparage blogging. As if it's not good enough for him we could probably show him before blogs that probably get fifty x the amount of reads that his get. What exactly is it. What's the difference between a blog in a story? That's I don't know I have no idea. I guess I have no idea the human. It's coming from a guy I don't know I've no idea like people. Blog older people write pieces in his piece. He needs understanding if it's a blog it's a compliment. That's not a knock. Yeah I wouldn't say it's not at all I'm just saying I would imagine that something that he would have never envisioned anything that he wouldn't be considered a blogger is what I would say. Peter King got caught up with some followers. I think back in the day did he was bind followers Lonzo. So people actually do that. I guess that's what I've been told. Lewis caught like one a four hundred thousand dollar drop or four hundred thousand followers drop in one day. Who Does it actually help to buy followers? I guess it makes you look like you're important. I guess in the short term. It could like say you're GONNA do a marketing deal and that's the kind of stuff matters if you buy four hundred thousand followers and then some company comes in. They don't really do your do their homework. And like check engagement or whatever of your social media. I'm like Okay Dude. Got Four million followers and gets to re tweets for every tweet. He has or something like I would imagine. If you do your homework you can figure that out. Yeah but you gotta remember the people that are hiring these people. They don't know what's going on either. I think a lot of people do it as an attempt to get a job with TV network. Yeah I could see that I mean it's like actors actors all complain about that where they'll get passed over for some young kid has was big on vine and grew a big following on social media on some platform and Ohio to being a movie. Because I think all those little kids will come watch the movie. Yeah that's called being valuable. Yeah guess like Tiger King. Every person in that documentary is very valuable human. Oh great hey watch tiger king I. I've seen five of the seven episodes. Okay so you haven't seen it all but you know enough talk about it. The tiger king was a godsend in the middle of this covert Nineteen Quarantine World A. How long is tiger? King Ben Available on Netflix. Just recently they just put it up they just put it on smart so smart man. Everybody in this thing is a star. Not Just Joe Exotic. Everybody is a star every human in there seems like he's a fake nurse. She's a fake human. And the fact that that's real world it's kind of alarming for sure but it's also great entertainment. I mean Joe Exotic our singing country music songs with people that have paid to come to his little cat zoo while filming music video in the middle of it. I mean the guy is just an electric fan despicable individual. He's done a lot of things like they're absolutely despicable. I mean. Let's get crazy but in the end the guy was fucking framed. Yeah we'll see. I don't I don't know what happens. In the last two episodes the first five episodes I feel like he didn't do a whole lot of despicable things. I mean maybe I was dozing off in and out throughout some of it. But I don't know I mean we can all agree that Joe Exotic isn't like a like a good guy he may mean. Well I think he means well feeding straight men math to be married to him and keeping them and coma got there yet that in the last couple of episodes or is that early on. I missed it spoilers. I think there's going to be things that come out and be like not a great guys but I don't think he was framed in the end. I don't think Joe Exotic is a model human that you're like you know what this is somebody. You should aspire to be like nobody in that entire thing is but in the end you really do feel for Joe Exotic and ways getting treated by society. Hey Carol to Carol's care. Caroline Howard need to be on a list to be watched by the government daily. Kitty cats that one guy seems like you get out of your life after. I'm cats and KITTENS. Doc Dr Kantle now that guy. I'm only to upset them. But he directs everything. He's like he tells the camera crew. What they're gonNa do and then he just goes into his care at the front door one talking. All is a different animal. I mean let's not get past Carol Baskin's though I mean is one of the first episode when they say the name Carol Basson like thirty eight times. I EPISODE MINUTE. I was dying laughing. I'm like who is this lady. And then you learn about this lady and to be honest H to be completely candid. I'm bummed the nobody in his office do about jobs are TV dot com before this we should have been watching on a regular basis when Joe Exotic was really starting to hit his prime. You know what I mean now. We've missed it. We don't get a chance to see new shows but JOE EXOTIC TV DOT COM. Had to be at least what four or five people watching every single night the most ever good to watch was eighty people that still eighty people pretty good. That guy and I'm bummed out. That Zito didn't Sinus foxy didn't find this conard and finest I mean. I am bombed the wheat. We didn't know about jobs whenever it was alive and thriving. It is shocking that massive caged animal has behind her Geez. You know some people aren't GonNa love what I'm about to say here. But when she was speaking her demeanor in the way she sounded a lot like a series killer. While I'm not GonNa say what I said but I was GonNa say with what you said. Check what before I even before I learned that? She Hillary Hanson bedroom to the Tigers. I was like while this grady. Not what you can just see it in your eyes spoiler. But but she Spoiler spoilers right here if you have a spine I mean. I've watched movies all the time when I know what happens at the end. It's fine Stuart by the sheet has answers for everything. She's very good. She's she's like a politician way. She's cheered answers for everything very calm. She it helps. It helps to be a sociopath times in situations like that where it's like absolutely nothing can touch him like nothing can touch you no matter what you say whatever evidence you show like. She's got an answer she. There's a reason this happened in. It's like she'd never even cared. She has no anxiety about any of this stuff. When w quarter be able to just turn off your conscience be awesome. Sometimes I think about that a lot actually people can use are completely unaware like you have no self awareness at all and just do all kinds of like man. I don't know people can't bring myself to be that person me neither when I'm laying my head on that pillow at night like my conversations with me are I feel like very real and there's some people that can just shut those off. Go sleep sailor. That didn't do anything. Didn't didn't fuck over anybody about her new husband worse. He's a cock. He's Super Caucasian new husband. Oh Yeah did you go ours? One is still missing? Technically missing right started last night so much in. What else are you doing? What are you doing? What do you mean we're supposed to be doing anything other than watch when you get home and you work and then you make dinner and by the time. That's nine o'clock Dixie. Working have to maybe having a wedding summer baby is six years a destination wedding as well. No later it's the beginning of August so we're still holding out hope. Yeah hold out. Hope you just just push the chairs. Apart a little bit for the crush my fiance by the way dead set on our wedding still happening it will art. Mba's coming back to make says you know what though it's going to be good for you pat? It'll be cheaper because you won't have to feed all those people because they won't be their flights also very cheap if everybody wants to get their flights and get full insurance get refund on on then or are you planning on paying for some people slight hotels or you're GONNA pay for hotels for people. Yeah I might have to might have to come off for you. Catholic private with you. Can I go with birds? I don't think I'm flying private out there either. A PRIVATE PLANE TO HAWAII. There would be four hundred thousand four hundred thousand dollars. Tom Hanks and his wife so they were video. Great video all the People Chat Hayes. Son Did in trip to Tom. Hanks and his wife were quarantined in a hospital. They've been released from the hospital and Australia. My question is are they going to try to get back to the states and I started thinking about Tom. Hanks is money that can fly private and that started thinking. How much is a private flight from Australia? Just one way from Australia to America. It would be so much in the plains thousand dollars. Seventy thousand eight hundred. Maybe seven hundred thousand now depends how big of a plane he's GonNa get. It's got to be big enough to to get over there. Surprise seat eight to ten people. At least he'll need eight. You think a plane. That seats eight to ten people had enough gas to get to Australia. Yeah world you live. Yeah definitely he can. I know there's you know the planes. How big they are they have to get to Australia. You know why they're so big because the the the engines that you have to have to get gas you gotta carry enough gas to get there. Yeah that's what I'm saying. There's no there would probably seven hundred fifty thousand dollars five hundred thousand dollars. It's saying like between nine thousand and thirteen thousand per hour occur. How many hours what. What plane is that? That's a A mid sized super mid size. There's no way a super midsize would last that long. There's yeah there's there's that you're friends with that. Why planes like that that go with like White and twelve. Well I guess why in California's what only four hours see stopped there. And then what's the next one twelve hours though? I mean you're in the middle of not a lot of our just. You got to bite the bullet and pay like fifteen grand for the first class. Lay Down seat on a commercial flight. Oh yeah that's by the way I love those things be amazing. I'm jealous every time I see those people laying down comfortable they're all hopped up on Zanex and edibles and everything and I'm Bingo. Yeah cramped up trying to walk out of the plane. Why don't you just do the pots bro? Well if I was flying by myself or just myself my wife we would but the last time I went to London. We took my two of my kids. And there's no chance. I'm taking them in First Class. Thank you because the people that put their kids all around me and pod section deserve to be kicked off the plane while we're at thirty two thousand feet. I don't need your Goddamn kids. All around me. Breathe in sniffling laughing Cryan. I'm trying to be drugged out and sleep in his pod. Yeah that that's one reason. I want to be considered of the people that pay all that money to be up there. They have a pleasant experience. But also I don't want my kids to think that's even an option that we get to fly in the big seats upfront. Whatever your reasons are I push if they're you know it's tough to. It's tough nowadays to make sure your kids to spoil. I don't think that's a great. I just can't if we start that thing about my kids think that's that's what flying is like. No this isn't worth line is. I didn't do this to twenty nine years old. I didn't get to fly first class. Hey you're a good dad. I want to let them know that has nothing to do with it. I'm worried about my kids being rich and being terrible. That's why I'm GonNa go up before have nice. I have answers on on a Gulfstream G. Four yes see. That's a big big big plan. Like thousand dollars saying what they're saying flight time. Sixteen hours with two stops from Hawaiian Fiji. Estimated cost one way. One hundred sixty one hundred thousand. Yeah I was way off. I guess I didn't. I didn't calculate the amount of hours you'd be in the air classic. That doesn't sound like the right price either. By the way less than two cases from we've been getting royally fucked over well. This is a quote from L. A. Private jets DOT COM. That's from California right. Yes from California to Sydney C. So we still have to get another four hours right. So what's another to order fifty to fifty two hundred fifty thousand? It's not fifty to fly a G. Four from California to indy though no no adding on the extra four hours to California about a quarter of that. Oh yeah okay. They said another quarter MIL private flying is. It is not reasonable at all. We had to do it this past fall then we had sponsors obviously shout out to seek and Roman but it is not a reasonable thing to do at all. I mean it is it is. It's awesome it's the best thing ever. It is why people who get a taste of money trying to maintain a good taste of money so you can fly private because it is so much better than the alternative commercial but it is not reasonable. They got you by the GUT SAC. Every part of the way they're tipping the pilot saying then the snacks that you eat onboard board. I mean it just never. It just never ends. It's sucking money out of you but incredibly convenient incredibly convenient. It's amazing I mean I just. My cousin actually is a pilot for nationwide insurance and so he flies around. He's been doing it forever. He's like he's like we got to see this windshield. We'd replace the windshield last year. That was two hundred K. He's like don't ever by a point I was like oh I'd never was going to but it's just unbelievable how much everything costs. We had a lot of those conversations this year by buying a plane instead of renting it from these thing I wanNA just buy ours. Get a card fifty hours or something. Well then you're kind of at their. No you're not when you need a fight you just you tell them and they send whatever whatever plane is near you and you don't have to pay all the maintenance and the insurance and everything else. Yeah but then it could be one of those small ones. You don't know her class of plane flying. It depends on the price that you're willing to pay. Yeah but it's different. Some of them have good wifi through him. Don't have wi fi. I mean for paying for convenience. Let's have some convenience. Yeah I guess I wouldn't be scared to find tiny little planes but are you you you you can get those tiny little planes like how tiny I mean. Yeah I took flying lessons for a while back in the day. I saw everything in the tiny one. Seventy two Cessna. One seventy two so. Yes Hawking wrapped in Hawk. No I didn't get my private licence. I would I should eventually. I want to but not didn't stop while ago. I get really sick when I get carsick. I get really sick when I'm up there when I was up there flying to so we need all these maneuvers practicing. I've just dripping sweat a garbage. Can you take it for a second? Chuckled take it and I would land it and just be drenched in sweat and feel awful you. I never puked in their pupil. I went up there with the Blue Angels Thunderbirds the whole time. But I didn't Puke when I was there. You fluid a blue angels. Yeah it was rough. It was awesome but it was. Did you WANNA Central Star? Did you go straight up? Yeah Yeah Hovers over I got I got it all on Gopro and everything and then he just. Hsun like vertical-takeoff. It's that's just that's nothing compared to what they're what else they do puked. I had so many plastic bags of Puke tied off in my cargo pants. Pocket of like your your flight suit. They give you like. I had to get off the plane and local media there because it used as like a PR thing usually the pump. The air show. That's coming up and I'm just so sweaty so pale white with puke all my pockets so much fun. I did it again then I did it again. A couple years later the thunderbirds in Ohio. The Red Bull did you then to. Oh yeah both times. The flights were about forty five minutes into the first flight. I started puke and four minutes in the second flood. I started puking six minutes in the. Why did you sign up to do it? It's interesting China does say notice something like that? It's really cool when I each time like okay. Maybe I can figure this out but I told them going to him. I came in. I'M GONNA throw up a lot. I'm just letting you know like this isn't my thing. And there are some techniques to try to teach her how to not throw up. It's really easy. Just look at the horizon like okay. That goes up canopy and the sun's just beaten on you and your cram so tight gets awesome. I mean I would do it again but man it was. We got a live photo of. Aj right here after the flight. Yeah that's pretty much it. That guy looks a lot better than I. Do you know the red boy erases that happened? Yeah so they did one here at the Indianapolis Motor speedway into market that they were doing a red bull air race. They asked if I would get in a plane on a g flight or whatever and I googled like a bunch of g flights and it's just a bunch of random local celebrities puking all over the place to play. Does these quick little spins. They go through the thing. I'm like It's GonNa be a no for me. All you'll love it you'll be expansion ever forget. I'm like yeah I bet you'll definitely never forget it but I mean it's it's enjoyable. Want like three days after when you finally start feel normal again. It was like the worst I when I came. I got home just laid on the couch in felt like the worst hangover for. Today's visit a concussion. Did you get anything? No no no never had that. But I wouldn't know what that means how that feels but it definitely do not feel good for an extended period of time all right couple of things here before we get going. Travis Frederick Retired at twenty nine. He said in his retirement letter that when he had to battle against gear on Beret. Yeah Bars Gillian Bar Helium Gilliam gs a couple years ago. It was a scary situation. Basically talks about how he had to. He was forced to think about life without football and stuff like that moving forward and he said he basically. He's excited. He was excited for life without football but he had to come back and play after beating it basically to himself and he's decided at the age of twenty nine to retire and I guess a lot of people are saying things he was out two thousand eighteen. They weren't great in two thousand eighteen. He was back last year. There was a lot of success. Ran Behind Travis Frederick Dak Prescott pocket obviously was a lot better last year with Travis. Frederick it's going to be a big loss for them moving forward. Shout out to Travis Frederick. Retiring and enjoying life hopefully going forward and being able to focus on different things and also now to Mike. Mccarthy cowboys will have to fill a massive hole at the middle of their offensive line. Yeah he's study in Dallas. People know how good he is people that fall the cowboys close. But I don't think as a whole like the national viewing audience knows how good Travis Frederick really is this teams. Start to numbers a right. What makes them so good? What makes a like a center better than other centers? You know we talked about it. It's true I gotta be Super Smart like the the great centers are crazy. Weirdly smart in like all things. Corey Lansley Plays Center for the packers. He's highest state garden gnome until he got degree. Badly played one-year-old him. Corey's a stud but correy is one of the most like uniquely Weird Smart Dude. His wife would tell like yeah like all of a sudden corey just started scotch like I went outside. And he's reading some novel. Drinking Scotch smoking a cigar on the balcony like Corey. Just it's weird dude. That knows everything about everything. But he's real dry and really fun but especially like you gotTa have that first mentally to be able to make the cause of your quarterback needs some help with the spiders protections and see things and everyone on both sides of you but then you also have to have the physical skills like to put it all together like that special guide like he was in his. But it's going to be. I don't know we'll see what ha what the cowboys do. But man that's not easy to replace it dude like that. No not at all. We know a center. He's not smart now Ache you Shipley. Yeah I think he. I bet but he's a lot smarter than you think he does have opinions. Who if you had high Iq high football IQ on Shipley Annie's by the way the lightest he's ever been he's squatting in the garage? He's ready to itching to get back onto a team. He's a current free agent looking to make a run in. He'll do that but I don't know if he's smart what's got him to where he's at right now ache you everybody has very high football. Iq. But I wonder oh by the way he went to ask you on whenever I would go do Games. I'd be like. Is there any way you can look at this and tell me why this is happening? And I'll get a full text factor make you. It's like Defensive whenever they shift over to here this is going to happen is going to have any made me look like a genius. So his football. Iq I think is next level but when it comes you like intelligent life no signs. I don't believe he's Martin. Good for you for for doing some research like that. That's what you do when you're calling a game like you know another valuable asset is say. You're doing a college game if you somehow get connected to some of the local beat writers radio host in the area that are embedded with those teams. Talk to them because they know those teams better than anybody on the planet pretty much and they can tell you all the now. It's like the weird things going on so you can have some info for the game. That's smart 'cause I just did no research. Well you're kind of a fly by the seat your pants kind of Guy Right. Everyone prepares differently. So whatever works for you but it might be good to see every once in a while. It's good to have that knowledge back there. You may not use it but it's good to have it checked everybody's twitter. I check the players twitter accounts. I want to see what they got going on. This is my research. Check twitter accounts. Sometimes I get a message. Make you tell me why something's happening. And then my meeting with the coaches the day before is try to learn everything. Those meetings would be like three four hours long long conversations with them your backbone conversations with the coaches all year long long we love you then because they usually don't go that long every time we go into a coach like this coach normally doesn't talk that much so see we can get out of them and two hours into this thing. We can't get shut up if you had to say they'd like talking about one to ask you quick. Pat Sorry you had to look at position offense defense special teams. What's what would be the the overwhelming dumbest position on the field like group of individuals that you wouldn't want walking your dog. It depends now are we is for jeopardy. No just in life just everything not. I'm not talking like book. Smart or school smarter talking like everything like someone that you wouldn't. I've always said the most entertaining room. No matter what building you go into the defensive line room you go into the room. That is the most entertaining room by. I would let them walk. My outdoor always happen so much more fun than everybody everybody. They are so much happier than everybody. The D. line room the lines miserable. They all mess with each other. They're they fart in a dip. Spit all over and they're always miserable. The D. Line is always having so much fun so much more fun than everybody else. I think the D line is the most fun room by but I'm not signing them up for the jeopardy by the way not punters and kickers up either other than the quarterback room is the one you send into jeopardy challenge. Just because normally that's their thing they're into that type of stuff that's the brain style you've got to have but I think D. Line is the most Fun Room I. I'm not a hundred percent sure that that they'd be the ones we'd send out there for a jeopardy jeopardy contest. Yeah probably not or yeah. Yeah I know Aaron on jeopardy and I think he won he won crushed pretty big and by the way when we interviewed them the the the line statement that was said was he would like to see how fares against the non other celebrities. He'd like to go against the everyday nerds that go up on jeopardy in their super bowl yet have you. Have you ever been in the room with somebody that loves jeopardy so much in so annoying because they sit there and you're having a conversation? They answered the questions. Like dobie talking to you room. And then they're answering the jeopardy questions as our man like this is annoying like. That's errands every day. I think he loves you. Believe it or not. I've never really hung out with anybody that knows most of the answers me. I've never hung out with somebody that knows most of the answers. If somebody gets one or two right around me normally pretty like you've salmon milady and if we get two to three right around we feel very very good about the board very very good about the board. I couldn't even fathom being around Mister Rogers or I think Thai probably what is nine thousand. Nine hundred forty seven thing. Ben Tre back. That is correct. Yeah I do got a good read on to daily double though. Really what you really? What do you mean you know where the spots are on the? I feel like I have a pretty good. Read it where they're at. Yeah I feel like I minesweeper. I feel like I kind of have a good read. And then when Trebek's voice he has a towel obviously that it's going to be daily double it. I think I'm pretty good at that. But that is one particular game show that I would fail miserably at on a very rapid. I would fucking stink jeopardy. No you wouldn't fail though so I know. Peyton turns down just endless money for the Monday night. Football's gag which million a year. You're still in the running for obviously. Why don't you throw your hat in the ring eventually? Maybe five ten years now to jeopardy's host when Travek steps down to I couldn't see them nerds get more mad hired to take? David Are Alex. Trebek's Oh we can't replace extra trebek's they should look at it like this. We can't replace him. He's one of a kind like the guy's amazing he's a machine. Everyone loves them universally low. He's like the Rock Pat. Save Jack Donald Michael. Pets say Jack. Maybe there's a bit of a rivalry. There may WANNA take that job. Eventually if he wants but why not? They're going to say we can't find another Alex back. It's Alex Right Not Alec. Are you kidding me right now? Aged come on. He's one of a kind Alex trebek's it is Alex Alex out earlier today but what I'm saying that they can't replace Alex or Alec. We're not sure jury still out now. No no Bryan. Cranston would be really good really every go white. I didn't watch. I didn't watch his show but me neither so slow I to episode. No just wait episode. Forty seven released picks up. Can't get there. I can't do any of that stuff. People tried to give me to watch stuff. I assume it's very good. I respect the art. They get so mad at Youtube. They know you gotta give it a chance do well. They've given up. The people have given up on on even like my lady showed his watching entire series without even asking. If I'd WANNA watch it and she'll go you and I hated it. It's like how do I? Maybe I wanted to learn about the crown so then we are watching it. Get about an episode like I fucking. She's like I knew I knew you'd hate it. Hate it. Team stuff happens with everything though. Tackle breaking bad. It happened with the Sopranos. I tried my best. It's everything that I would like to Sopranos. I love the Italian culture. I Am Italian. I like mobsters. I like all that stuff. Couldn't get into it Kazoo so slow house of cards. I got into because I was forced to be in my bed after surgery and I didn't have the remote so I was forced to watch like actually forced to watch it and I got through the entire good all right here we go. I'm in I now. I felt what everybody else felt like. I felt like I get why people get so excited for new season and all that shit. Well how's the Kurds was smart because they didn't wait to have like some impactful things happen? I feel like Kevin Spacey. Push the girl in front of the train like episode to episode one people. They started that thing with him strangling dog. Oh they did really yeah. I would elected immediately but I couldn't find a remote. So why did he kill? The dog got hit by car. I don't remember that part about it. I Ain't spacey blue that show up. Yeah yeah can watch for now. What I'm saying you should be the next jeopardy host because we can't replace Alex Trebek's but we can get bring in like the opposite. Young Exciting Guy. Family FEUD THOUGH ON STEVE. Harvey's done highly harpies the man. He's so good. At that. I agree I agree. And whenever he's done whenever he's done I would like a shot at ten years from now. Fifteen is whenever this family feuds where I would like to. What about the price is right? I know supposedly when what's old man Bob Barker's leaving -posedly they they were trying to come after herbstreet to have him take over the prices right. Why didn't Herbie take that? I don't know I really don't it would have been a lot of money in a nice secure gig drew. Carey's still loves that show. Ain't nobody watching now. It's still on right. Cleveland ROCKS CLEVELAND. Cleveland'S GONNA win the Super Bowl this year. Cleveland'S GONNA win the Super Bowl this year. Why not get on the bandwagon again? Tampa Bay buccaneers. Oh man it's GonNa be fun hopefully open. The season starts on time for. Are you worried at Tom's going to get the time with his receivers like he needs? Tom Always put it in the virtual work. 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Friday 22 May

Monocle 24: The Briefing

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Friday 22 May

"You're listening to the briefing first broadcast on the twenty second of May two thousand and twenty on Monocle Twenty-four. The briefing is brought to you in association with Allience as part of the programs partnership with Aliens. We bringing you stories that demonstrate his commitment to securing people's lives after all for one hundred and thirty years all around the globe. Alleanza has been working hard to do just that to give courage to its customers for what's ahead because allience how important it is to have a fan partner your side who provides solid and sustainable solutions. Leon strives to do it right. We've passion every day. Stay tuned to the briefing dear. Exactly allience does it and allience for life. Hello and welcome to the briefing coming to you. Live from studio one here Madari House in London. I'm Andrew Miller coming up the preoccupation which everybody rightly has with fighting this awful epidemic. They've used that. Preoccupation in order to blend and Harris in other areas and one of them's in Hong Kong is China using covid nineteen as cover to tighten its grip on Hong Kong. Also ahead. We'll speak to the virologist Dr Chris Smith about the latest estimates of the viruses sprayed in big cities will have a weekly reflection on. What IF ANYTHING. We've learned in the last seven days and strap yourselves in. Hello Amphibian Shakoor and I'm back today with the global countdown. All I can say it's going to be a very controversial one all that coming up right here on the briefing monocle. Twenty four and welcome to today's edition of the briefing with me. Andrew Miller a crisis of the magnitude of covid nineteen invariably prompts any number of secondary and tertiary crises. Some of these are inevitable and unavoidable knock owns while are a result of opportunists seizing. A moment of widespread destruction to do something. They might not try pulling in more normal circumstances into the latter category arguably foles the decision of China's Communist Party to enact a new security law for Hong Kong. This will ban. It says he at treason secession sedition and subversion things of which the CCP has generally taken a very broad yet extremely dim view on joined now by Monocle Hong Kong Bureau Chief James Chambers and Audible Hilton. Ceo of China Dialogue is a bill to you first of all. What is the Chinese Communist Party? Doing here is this something they would have done anyway or Doing it because they think everybody's looking in another direction my feeling the taught be sure about this but my feeling is that they are doing it because they it's a good moment they can get away with it But that said I also think it has been brewing for a while. I think they've been frustrated with the way. Hong Kong was being handled by by carry lab and also by by the head of the Liaison Office Who they changed if you remember. The end of last year to a hotline has been coming But this awesome Opportunity James No Hong Kong Bureau. Do we understand what the practical implications of this will be full of people of Hong Kong. Well News broke yesterday evening at this was in the works and it's been a bit of a state of shock here in Hong Kong. No sort coming and we've all been walking around today In a bit of a days shaking our heads and I'm just wondering a what on earth this means for the city. It's it's difficult to overstate. How much fundamental shift in for Hong Kong this is. I mean. We're still talk about one country two systems but I think this puts Another nail maybe the final nail in the coffin of that. It's you described it at the start as a new law. It's kind of a new old law when the when Hong Kong was handed back to China in one thousand nine hundred under the Basic Law which is the mini constitution for the city The government here was meant to bring in something like this. A security law our national security law but in the the twenty three years and then failed to do so because every time it it tries to the people here in Hong Kong had out onto the streets so this China just being frustrated with the government has failed to do so as as bell said. I don't think it's it's opportunism or anything to do with Kobe. Nineteen I think. This is a reaction to the protest last year in Beijing. Saying enough is enough so it's not necessarily than bringing in the law. That's a big worry. It's just how they will enforce it And that's what's Got Everybody worried in. Hong Kong is the bill as James Frames there this is no Moina administrative. Tweak if we're looking at this from the perspective of the Chinese Communist Party why do they think this is important? It's a huge change in status. And and you know I. I'm very much sympathize. With people who regard this is the end of Hong Kong's freedoms because it creates the opportunity to get rid of political opposition. And you know as you said at the beginning. Treason secession and subversion very broadly defined by Beijing. But it no more kindly and things like the recent address Arrested Martin and entirely Peaceful Democrats Eighteen year old boy. Who was one of the architects of the Basic Law gives you an idea of Beijing? Doesn't want I think the other thing to remember is the result of the district elections at the end of last year because Beijing talks as though their protests the being either castrated from abroad or the product dove Terroris- Oh a tiny minority of subversives carrie. Lam Herself talked about the the silent majority being supportive her actions but the district election comprehensively trash that argument it went ninety percent to the to the Democrats and they're all LegCo elections coming up later this year which I think Again would have produced if it's a less democratic process but it would have produced a sharp rebuke both the Hong Kong government and Beijing. I think Beijing so seeks to avoid that. I think we'll see this law through this little absolutely posses the Hong Kong legislature. Then we will see attacks on Democratic candidates. We'll see like being made extremely difficult for anyone who wants to oppose the government peacefully or in any other way joins US saying early the the imposition reimposition of this lower is a response by China to those huge protests which you covered for us in Hong Kong might therefore be part of China's calculation. That one of the reasons for the timing of this is that what with one thing in another large-scale street protests not really a viable option. Right now are they. Well technically speaking this still because of the covid nineteen pandemic. There are restrictions on large gatherings the Hong Kong government extended the ban groups of over eight people for another two weeks. So technically at the moment if you do gather in a huge mass protests on the street you are in breach of that law And people are questioning the timing of extension because it conveniently covers the Tiananmen square vigil. Which is held every year every year in Hong Kong on on June the fourth? But I would imagine if the protesters do decide to go out. It won't be that won't be that law. That stops them. We're all we're all kind of watching and waiting to see what the response is in Hong Kong to this whether we will have a big weekend of protests or whether it will be kind of tiny skirmishes. I don't think there's any right answer if there's if there's no reaction then that's as speaks a lot and if his if is a return to last year's violence and nobody wants that either I think what's different with these protests or whatever happens this year is that it will clearly be a case of the protests going up against Beijing and the Communist Party and this this this this Gerard the Hong Kong government In any way charge of what in Hong Kong and the fact that the protests might be going against any legislation that carry lambs. Government is putting in place that's been removed now and it is basically versus the CCP Isabel just finally if we take a look at the broader view. Are we likely to see much more of this kind of thing from China not just in Hong Kong but elsewhere as well sort of pushing what they think they might be able to get away with as things are we have in in the course of the pandemic seen in a sort of heightening of military games around Taiwan? I would very much an invasion of being planned. But Seth me they're all kind of constant reminders that do one step further and You know they'll be trouble kind of thing. And His. You know fed into the tensions with the United States So I think that if this law passes as I said what we're more like to see is the is the harassment people who they are already. You know they've already identified. You know more rest of popular leaders From you know Joshua Wong through to to the older generation Democrats raising the price of dissent narrowing the ground. I think that is pretty pretty much on the cards in other spirits. We already again. You know since the pandemic we've seen one Vietnamese fishing boat sunk by by Chinese by by knees vessels in the South China Sea. There's quite a lot going on Which doesn't get picked up Isabel Hilton and James Chambers in Hong Kong? Thank you both very much for joining us. This is the briefing on monocle. Twenty Four. You're listening to the briefing with me. Andrew Miller the longer the covid nineteen lockdown goes on the more we learn about covid nineteen not least because being locked down like this. We don't have a great deal to do but ever expanding testing is teaching us about the spread of the virus will hopefully help us figure out how soon something like normality becomes a possibility he in the UK Health Secretary. Hancock has suggested that seventeen percent of Londoners may now have covid nineteen antibodies. I'm joined with more on this prime article. Twenty four health and science correspondent Dr. Chris Smith also a viral adjust at Cambridge University. Chris first of all that figure seventeen percent which suggests as I understand that seventeen percent of Londoners have been infected by cove nineteen to one extent or another. Does that sound like a plausible number? Yeah I think I think it does some countries and indeed some commentators in many countries hyping the number would be a bit higher. But Tha that does seem to twin with what we knew about the circulation of the agent. We New London was hot spots. We knew it took off their more than in other parts of the UK and this is also backed up by the that in the parts of the UK. This the Ciro positively right in other words. The number of people with antibodies against the new kind of ours is between five and seven percent so that does align with that so quite high circulation in London lower levels of circulation across the rest of the country but across the whole it means that the vast majority of people are not immune therefore only a small fraction of the countryside. Fall has actually called the new cry of ours. Is there anything we can infer from that figure in London? Not Merely about the level of infection but the the level of exposure what. I'm wondering is if you take a given Londoner for the sake of argument. Let's say it's Me Prior to lockdown traveling at least twice a day on Tube trains most of which were pretty crowded frequently being out and about in London which is a busy city speaking to. I don't know dozens of people a day as a journalist does is there any meaningful chance? I wouldn't have been exposed at some point. I it's very likely that you probably have encountered this. But he's whether or not you encountered any infectious dose of it because that's the key thing nodal viruses virus particles might equally and when a person is infected. They are producing from their body and all of their secretions of from the respiratory tract. So that's coughing sneezing just breathing droplets of moisture which virus particles in the they hope for in the for a period of time and it may well be that some of those virus particles that just stopped so although that virus particles and although they might have some genetic information in them they just might not go off like a dodgy firework you like them nothing happens so a person who breathes in some of those particles isn't guaranteed that will catch it so it's not a given if you're sharing it with someone who's infected. You're definitely going to get it. Because it depends how much they're actually issuing from their body into the that you then encounter but yes people in London had an above average Johnson counseling other people who were infected and therefore infectious and because of the high density working environment in London. The high density of traveling in London as a result of that the opportunity afforded to the virus to spread was higher which is why London took off soon took off foster and had high levels of virus. I've rule and I think part of this is probably a reflection on the London's also right next door to one of the world's busiest airports Heathrow which would have an she connected with the London. Transport system would perhaps have been a a conduit into the country with many cases arriving via that route every day. And then probably moving into the capital and helping to spread it if seventeen percent is not it yet is. I don't know whether this is a useful way to be thinking or not but is there. A number percentage at which a widespread lifting of lockdown measures starts to seem like a sensible way forward. Well if we're using how immune people all the immunity right in the population. Then we'd need to be up in the high tens of percent like sixty seventy percent of the population immune in order for this to have any kind of serious impact on the ability of the virus to spread because this whole notion of herd immunity. The word is unfortunately been misrepresented misunderstood by many people as meaning some kind of a strategy to allow people to catch the virus naturally into become immune as a country herd immunity just means that the vast majority of people are immune which means that there are so few susceptible individuals left in the mixture that the virus Kennel circulate. And so you protect the UNAMUNE few by the immunity of the many. That's what herd. Immunity means but in order for that to work. You need very high numbers of the population to be immune so when we vaccinate people against diseases like measles with the Mo. That's why we try to get to ninety five percent of the population because we know even when we get to ninety five percent the population. A handful of people just won't respond to the vaccine so that gives us a bit of safety margin and it means that a good. It to eighty five percents people are gonNA be reliably immune and that means the fifteen to twenty percent who not and this includes newborn babies every year just unlikely to encounter so unlikely to encounter someone who's actually got it that there's no transmission chain in the population that is potentially achievable for this new corona vars volunteer routes. Either we all catch it and we become immune and then new members of the population who bowl not yet an organic. Because there's no disease can eating or more tracks if we make a vaccine against this when we get the vaccine into everybody either way we arrive at a stay of heard immunity where this too few people who are susceptible in the population for the Vars to be able to maintain a transmission chain Christmas. Thank you as always. That was our health and science correspondent. Dr Chris Christmas listening to the briefing on monocle. Twenty four in association with Alliance an incredible one in ten small to medium enterprises could fold Ju Corona virus related disruptions says. `Alliance the world's largest insurer an asset manager starting a business is always risky but SME's do more than pay wages they build communities and fire up the economy. `Alliance is working to help the hot up around the world on a scale that matches the effects of the Pandemic Sarah Rafah group strategy marketing distribution his balance. And today. I seat Roy headquarters in Munich. 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Embarrassed Eric Trump. Who said these woods out loud in public phil milk it every single day between now and November third and guess what after November Third Krona virus will magically all of a sudden go away and disappear and everybody will reopen? Settled Down Beavis. The problem will a problem with the theory that this whole pandemic thing is a hoax designed to scupper. The reelection of President Benito Man is that it does seem to suggest that the Democratic Party has ninety four thousand and counting supporters sufficiently devoted that they are willing to play dead until polls close. We learned that among the few things not altered or apparently even threatened by the current crisis is the capacity of sports administrators and broadcasters full proposing impressively terrible ideas while some sports are returning to their stadiums the fans not thereby depriving television broadcasters of the usual to mull Chua Soundtrack to the exertions on the field we learned that one network covering the Australian football league the top flight competition of Australian rules football plans to dubbing digital crowd noise seven. Sports are not unveiling its background. Crowd noise this round ones. Sounds of Silence Lynch Scorpio not obey? What actually absolutely superior grave kicks. He stood and what the sign passage by right with sound like in round two links bear. Actually the MA absolutely ray volcano. This is obviously terrible and stupid. First and foremost on the grounds that sport is an authentic spectacle or it is nothing but you can also see where the momentum is taking us. The next step will be. Cgi fans filling the empty seats. We learned indeed that one South Korean. Football team is already doing this well. Sort of F. C. Soul of the K League attempted to enliven the atmosphere at their recent home match against Guangzhou by planting mannequins in the stands some dressed in club colors and brandishing encouraging banners. The dummies will all correctly socially distanced and masked which was weird enough the dummies but it got weirder eagle-eyed fans watching from home. Who made later have had to answer a few questions about how they knew this sponsored that FCC silent new GOP leaders were in fact. Sex does this narrator wishes to make it clear that he had no say in. Whatever sound effects? The producer chose to play under VAT paragraph. We learned that also is providing some useful perspective to those British jurisdictions which stage a ballyhoo or indeed brouhaha whenever someone proposes painting a cartoon by Bank Banksie. Slovenians are up in arms about whether or not to knock down an ugly and redundant office block which somewhat inconveniently is adorned with murals by Pablo Picasso. His molecules design. It Nolan. Giles on Tuesdays briefing. I've been following the story for a few years and I. I'd seen in Oslo on one of my walks around the city and spoken to some architects. And they just told me how amazing this building was in how the whole architectural community has has been fighting to save it for all these years when they didn't know what to do with it which credit this grassroots movement which was essentially kind of ignored by the government until you know the big dogs momorandum stepped in we learned of an actual parallel universe so that it was that even allowing for the possibility that bode boffins floats stories like this every so often just for lock. It's not like we can check the working and all the various media outlets may have concocted an imaginative headline from prosaic ingredients. She'd happens it. Nevertheless says here that a group of pointy heads at NASA reckon that in the parallel universe their found time runs backwards listeners. Anticipating that this segment was going to rise above a joke. About how in this alternate cosmos? Country Songs are all about some guy getting out of jail. Discover. The wife has come back. He's dog has got better and his truck starts must be feeling pretty silly around now and we learned from Burundi of promising new method of convincing an overstaying head of state and or government to clear his desk. Burundi voted on Wednesday in a presidential election. Which did not include interminably serving incumbent Pierre and currencies. Who had been making worrisome noises about staying on beyond his constitutional mandate. He was persuaded to step aside however by the promise of appointment to a new position. Supreme going to patriotism out efforts to discern what in the wide world of sports? This actually means at an early stage but we learned of the remarkable efficacy over warding. Some superannuated Malcontenti meaningless title in order to placate they're demented ego and therefore shut them up for multiple twenty four. I'm contributing editor Andrew. Mila you're listening to the briefing on monocle twenty four up next the global countdown. You're listening to the briefing with me. Andrew Miller and it is time now once again for Fernando Augusta Pacheco's global countdown in recent weeks. He has been taking certain liberties with the format. Pitching us a variety of conceptual top fives however this week Fernando. I believe we're going old school. Which just going to a country and looking what's in its top five. Am I correct? You are very much correct. And we're going to the biggest music market in the world and the reason. I decided to choose the United States this week. It's such a busy top five so interesting so many stories so many firsts and a lot of controversy we like a good controller. Sandra we do a at what point should L. Listeners. Be Braced for the controversy. Which number is the controversy coming in on? I think number three Iraqi your Info Kate so a souls for number three number five however is relatively uncontroversial absolutely we have Megan t stallion she. She's a rapper from Houston and she. She had a song savage for a few weeks already. But certainly what made her go. Really in the top. Five of the charts is she invited. Someone very special to the Remix of the song and interesting things that beyonce's also from Houston and this song savage even though it doesn't look like a charity single off. The proceeds of that track is going for for people that are being affected by. Cova one thousand nine hundred in the city so I thought that was quite a nice idea. Shall we have a listen? Yup Fancy don't actually object to that violently. It's got a bit of late nineties. West Coast hip hop feel about it absolutely and another thing that I like about this year. In particular Andrew comes to music I think female rappers are finally know reaching the top spots on the charts. Of course it's been happening but as you will see as we progress in our countdown. They're more of similar of this Along the way we dealt controversies I promise okay so number four well number four is the one that we don't have much to say because for so long but let's hear it again. It's a good song. It's the weekend blinding lights. I didn't think I can any longer recall a time when that wasn't in the top. Five somewhere any. We remain so probably. It's going to be Christmas diamond and I'm GonNA say number five. It's the weekend of blinding lights should it? Should we now be running on what's going to happen? I A vaccine for covid nineteen or blinding light by the weekend. Not being in the top five that that'd be a good bet and I definitely consider that bad injured a number three. This is where we warned our listeners to be braced for controversy. Well first. Let's play the song. Have to warn the listeners. Because it's terrible sewn but just two seconds of it so don't worry about it well and truly reconciled to that possibility by now so see the thing is I can't tell now fanatic if you're if you of all people a signaling upfront. That a song is terrible. That has me suggests that he can only be only the the worst thing I've ever heard or kind of brilliant. Let's have a look. This is six nine with Guba big. Yeah that's bad What is controversial about it? Aside from being merely terrible well first of all six nine. He's kind of the Super Villain of the musicians in a way. He's in house arrest the moment he had to leave on yours because because he's in a different way because he's got asthma actually so he had to leave prison because he had a condition and people were scared that he would get a covid. Nineteen but you know. He's imprisoned because of racketeering drug drug trafficking firearms fans. There's been talk that he was also sex offender but you know we have to look into that and also complaining that he's not not number one. This week he actually wrote on his social media saying this is unfair. Billboard is lying in. Oh they said that the number one son which I try to avoid mentioning the label were kind of playing with the numbers and then billboards the the music publication that publishes the official charts. And saying what you know. This is our numbers Approve I'm sorry you're not number one. But what a nasty piece of Man took complain such away so and I don't think he deserves an apparently. Some people are saying that there's even a that's kind of making him have more youtube views than than normal as well. So maybe he's the one who is kind of faking his numbers. I'm not overwhelmed with sympathy. Moving along to number two then. I was talking. That is a good year for female rappers. I mean this was number one last week. It's by does your cat. But she also ask someone very famous for a remix. Which is Nicki Minaj? And they have to say Andrew Nicki Menaj had more than a hundred singles in the top. One hundred of billboard but neither of Dan reached number one so in fact this is her first number one. I think is well deserved. I mean she had not a long career. A decade or so and is great is is very disco. I think it's one of the best songs of the year so far so we have a listen is though cat featuring Nicki Minaj say zone. He will be gotta do is say the world like a spelling bee. Yeah I don't know it. It doesn't doesn't do a great deal for me but I am wondering. Should we get somebody famous to Remix the global countdown? Would that help us? They'll be number one on the podcasts charts. I mean it's so funny that this is such a trend. I mean I think I. For example Luna's was the same thing he released his town road and southern was remixed by so many artists. And then that's what make the song goes number one. I think that's an interesting trick. That many artists are doing is becoming more and more common. I mean in a way. I think is harmless. Some remix are better than the originals. And sometimes not a thing. Say so I think you kind of matched the song in some ways number one song. Andrew have to say six nine. The terrible rapper. He was complaining about saying the arena. Grand Justin Bieber label. They decided to buy more call peas and their oldest controversy. But you know what? It's a sweet zone. It's again for charity. I'M NOT GONNA lie here. Saints my favorite but they are two artists that released great singles in the past Show we have listened. This is there I would say locked home single stuck with you by arena grounded and Justin Bieber son. So what I don't understand is why people who are already locked down one to listen to a record about being locked down. Why why are the shots not full of songs about other no beaches and parks and outdoors fun stuff that that's a good question so expression but he but again but then it's a sweet song is about being great with spend time move your loved one? Oh my God that sounds Corny. But let's be honest. It's been a song about being great hair for spending time with Justin Bieber spent time arena. Thinks she's she's she's very sweet and I prefer her music but again let's be honest. We could always be imagine being with six nine. There's worse things worse things than that on that on that humbling reminder that there's always somebody worse off Financial Augusta Pacheco. Oh thank you as always for joining us. You're listening to monocle. Twenty four and that is all for this edition of the briefing produced by Reese James and Augusta Macho Larry the researchers Charlie Court s Judea manage. It was no. He'll the briefing returns on Monday at the same time. I'm Andrew mullet goodbye. Have a great weekend.

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37. Volume: Mark Yettica-Paulson: Part 1: A Way Forward Through Dialogue

Psychology of Entrepreneurship

39:00 min | 2 weeks ago

37. Volume: Mark Yettica-Paulson: Part 1: A Way Forward Through Dialogue

"Nefarious man like the brain works and fucked up. The mind is one of the most deceiving manipulative pieces of equipment flesh. Bodies on hers I never have trusted my brain. You decision maker. Hi. It's Rawnsley. If this is your first volume, welcome. This is a weekly series where I go inside the mind of an entrepreneur. Academic to decipher. What is the psychology of our decisions? Acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land. I am standing today. I pay my respects to the eldest post president and emerging. They hold the memories the traditions, the culture and hopes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait on into people's across the nation. This. This is an extremely emotional volume I mean of cried a lot through the creation of this when I heard the eldest speak in Brisbane during the black lives movement rally where tens of thousands gathered to give a voice to the history of our country. This country I'm even crying. Typing this. I can't help it. is just flowing. The research made me cry. The conversation made me cry and this might make you cry so. If, that isn't where you're at. Now. It's time to listen to this. I am very very proud to be strengthen. Even though I look Indian and I've had to explain that. A Lot. But. Can you imagine that you have to explain how you Australian when you belong to this land? Today I'm talking with. Poulsen. To I am and I am a facilitator particularly around. Indigenous leadership will what's called into cultural ladyship where you try to bring groups together, that's. That's my main thing that are too and are the last perhaps twenty twenty five years of in working in spice where you want. To help grow and foster develop first nations leadership, but you also have to impact the conditions that they go into a leadership in which is the environment around them mock, that is an extremely complex set of connections day and I suppose responsibility because you also need to develop the skills in partnering with people who are from the so called other side, and have you not been and make alliances, and and so this not just coach relationship in strength, but it's about leadership reaching across. It's not been doing that for the last time twenty years, or so, and his Romi. rain a little bit of a stint in. Government, but only enough to realize. I'm not built that way and open working primarily in community organizations, not for profit private sector campaigning work in don't. Work on earned. In February, Nineteen, ninety nine four New York City, police officers on patrol in the Bronx when they saw a young black man standing on a stoop, they thought he looked suspicious when they pulled over, he retreated into the doorway and began digging in his pocket. He get digging as the police shouted at him to show his hands a few seconds later, the man duty yellow a twenty two year old. Guinea was dead hit by nineteen of the forty one bullets that the police fired at him. What do y'all was reaching for his wallet? He was for his ID as he stood on the steps of his own apartment, building the story and the officers, fatal prejudgment of him is recounted. Inaugu, glad wells, two thousand and five bestseller blink glad well and the social psychologist whose worked he draws upon explorers, Diaz case as an example. Example of that gray area between deliberate violence and an accident propagated by non conscious or implicit bias. The officers did discriminate against a yellow, but the prejudice they acted on May, have been driven by something more subtle than simple hatred, and that's an important thing to think about. Yes, there are lots of overtly bigoted people and policies at work all over the world, but what we're interested in today is the more insidious non conscious. Bias and how it can affect our behavior, fact is our implicit biases affect the way we relate to others in a very review tropes. Of that story which you should check out in its entirety. The link to that will be in the show notes so before we get started I want to acknowledge some facts. These facts are from a Peer Review Journal so all the sources have been verified and reviewed. Open Court. The, history of indigenous people in Australia over the last two hundred years, since the arrival of Europeans is one of great suffering genocide, the introduction of European diseases, dispossession, subjugation and segregation reduced indigenous population by ninety percent. Between Seventeen. Eighty eight. And one thousand, nine hundred, a conservative estimate, indicates that prior to European contact there were approximately fifteen thousand indigenous Australians living in the state of Victorio. That number was reduced to approximately eight fifty. By nineteen o one today, indigenous Australians continued to face interpersonal and institutional racism which creates and sustains the lower socioeconomic status by excluding them from economic opportunities and land ownership. Moreover indigenous men and women can expect to live. Ten point, six and nine point five years less than non-indigenous men and women, respectively, a large and growing body of evidence consistently implicates racism as a key determinant off the health of indigenous Australians. However one of the most persistent. Aspects of today's discourse. Regarding racism in Australia is the very denial of its existence. A review of the linguistic and discursive patents of contemporary speech in both informal and formal parliamentary debates, political speeches, and the media is considered formal. Settings in Australia concluded that the social taboo against openly. Expressing racist beliefs has led to the development of strategies to present negative views of minority groups as reasonable and justified while exonerating the speaker from charges of racism. This serves to constrain political efforts to address racism sauce, reinforcing racism and quote this study in its entirety, and all the references can be found in the show notes so if you didn't know. Now you do mock yet Poulsen. Thank you for being here? I'm extremely blessed to be talking with you. That has got to be element of stereotyping in the work that you do. Is there. Dynamic People of Color face or not just people of Color. People for whom there is this build up of stereotypical. All those people do that. Those people are like this, so you end of carrying round the psychology of asking yourself in internal question. Would I just being rude? Whether being racist, a whether being rude or just sexist or whether being rude or just? Making Sing, my social class, and looking down on me I identify had told you the story, but the United States. It's the it's the reality. y'All when you walk into an airline lounge in. People may remember that. We used to go to the airport and used to go to the airport lounges, but When you walk in there and As a brown skinned person I have to consciously think than I need to make sure that the way I present myself in an airport lounge has to I cannot afford to be disheveled kind of rough, shaven and Daggett. Close the difference that gets cost that that I carry around from our own psychological point of view. The data process around me. He started to shoveled looking. What person white male Siamese me walks into an airport lounge and are. There an artist Oh, maybe they are rockstar or a A. Film director. All maybe there. There's something like that. They clearly an edgy kind of creative. Time I. Walk in there show and. Excuse me so I. Don't think this is where you need to be. You need to be out there. Forget the fact that I've got gold membership. You know I'll also research. We thought we had Lynton and so you carry this around I don't know if they're being rude or racist. For that to be out psychological baggage, and for other restraints to not even know that that exists is part of our work. We can't bring to consciousness. Unless, people have developed the thinking about who they are, and whether from unless they get somebody else to hold a mirror up. To their own behavior, and if you can get away with never having a mirror held up to your own behavior. Then in some ways, you'll psychological cultural resilience his week. Not, as well developed as someone who's had to be in a far stance psychologically as they walk around land that they thought they believed. Was Their inheritance. You can imagine the mental gymnastics that happens when you're like Kay. I'm being put down on the land. That, he's mine heritage from a thousand generations. Why am I walking around like the Prince of this region? What is going on in the society around me and inside me? That's preventing me from walking around slightly. On the land that is mine heritage. That to me is part of how what's going on underneath the surface here amongst special needs, so anyone listening going wise problem. This happened a while ago for one. I'm really happy that hopefully you listen to the end to get a better perspective for that thought because I promise you that we fact checked to succo. And enough with the facts well, maybe just a bit more. This is tiffany Geno in her text. The power of Know if you guys noticed I'm going to let you in on something. I'm a black woman. I know right a bunch of you don't even see colors. You didn't even notice, but I'm just saying. So I was frustrated. That some people in our society had more privileged than I did. I was frustrated that when I walked into a job interview I had to deal with the stereotypes and assumptions that other people had of me before even walked in the door that I had to work twice as hard to be seen as equally competent. That when I travel airport security searches through my hair. I was frustrated that our society has bought into a belief system that some human beings have more value than others. That some people are perceived as more intelligent than others, simply because they have a different skin color. The Australian. National University conducted a survey in two thousand and nineteen collecting data from four thousand, six hundred government, primary and secondary students across new, South, Wales and Victoria from these results, sixty percent of surveyed school students said they had witnessed racism. Forty percent of Aboriginal and students from ethnic minority backgrounds said that they'd been racially discriminated against by their peers and more than a third of Aboriginal. Students reported experiences of Racial Discrimination From Wider Society. When I had my first grandchild. You know I might avail myself. And my future grandchildren would speak language Donald Language. Every January, twenty six their displays of jingoism nationalism, all across this country as Australia celebrate the day that the first fleet sailed into Sydney carve, but for aboriginal people this day has always been one of pain and grief. It's been referred to as the day of Mourning Invasion, day, survival, day, and sovereignty I'm going to embark on a journey through the past present and future of Aboriginal Australia to find out where this grief in pain originate. And what can happen in the future to ensure that we heal the winds of the past and May Ford together. That is a three part buzz feed news documentary that you can watch in under thirty minutes. which will give you a lot of? And perspective, Mark for context, let's thought would kind of Wolf that you do. On on any given piece of work and. Leadership Development for me I'll be working with the culture and identity of the the people involved so first nations, people first nations strandings. There is the context around. How do they be authentic to their own? Ethnicity, our background around history and memory as a coach will people, but also. How do they fit into the modern? Environment in Secular Society here in Australia. And how we find a place in the world. And most of my work is focused on building up that that internal strength and resilience. That's that's that's already there. But how do you build on net? So that the ladyship affairs nations not only looks after their own people by keeping them feel safe, and with a strong sense of belonging, but it's able to work across in the Australian context with all our strenuous. In order to achieve what we need to achieve together, we are the community level, government, program, pragmatic level, or in a business sense to be able to of do some innovation that works on the horizon, so we haven't seen yet. You won't be able to do that as first nations if you're not strong in of yourself in terms of your identity and belonging and your earned cultural resilience that you'll named as as an individual identity I can relate. In India, I speak with an accent in Australia I speak with an accent in America I definitely speak with an accent, also the context I want you to know if you curious. What was some of the challenges? Mock faces in the work that he does. I think one of our challenges that we Feis in the dialogue. Is that we think that proximity. So if you are really really close to it. You have all the legitimacy talk about it. But if you're far away from it. If your proximity keeps you at a distance. Then you are illegitimate, and you don't deserve the riot or you. You're not allowed to make comment and part of our challenge with that equation, or that that that understanding that proximity equals legitimacy. That then we find ourselves saying well, how how can we even begin to understand what has happened? What is happening? What is going on? Who can we turn to? Oh, well? We need somebody who's like. A fantasy of indigenous leadership someone who's lived one hundred years in a community, also lived one hundred years in the city who knows one hundred years worth of knowledge about rural and regional communities as well 'cause speak about politics, health housing education, all facets of that then have an understanding, philosophy and religion, because that impacts somehow as well and really have a firm understanding about law and systems of. Har Kotz, Supreme Court's CETERA. Then that person needs to break it down and make it simple for us. You can see that this. Of Happen, you know you can't find someone with all of those attributes of proximity. Day. This super legit, so the reason why respond that this straightaways at part of the heart of the shock that hits a strandings. East it's dynamic one where we told. Why wasn't this heart of? UPBRINGING, why is it with finding this out now as adults things that we should have known? As history of a strenuous. Why want we told? I wasn't told I became Australian fairly recently. I have to renew my possible so I'd say over ten years ago. Also what most people don't know that I had to give up my Indian possible. Because India doesn't allow deal citizenship. So. I had to make peace with that fact. And I took my oath of allegiance to be Australian. What I didn't like was that pledge is still Kinda to Her Majesty Elizabeth Second. Why is that still a thing? I suppose that's for another volume, but he'll was my pledge from this time forward under God. I pledge my loyalty to Australia and it's people. WHOSE DEMOCRATIC BELIEFS I share whose rights and liberties I respect and whose laws I will uphold and obey. I'll remember that pledge especially today when I published this because this needs to be shed knowledge. Trying to hold that lead to a balanced view around. Be blamed for not for not having Krizan now. It's so when you look at any. WHO's grown up. Their childhood informs their identity and resilience and knowledge search the way they move in the wild and live in the world the so we can't look at at strandings who have are just it was never it was never brought in front of me. It was never part of my schooling. It was part of my circle of friends conversation except what we picked up around the edges in our peripheral vision. Through news snippets all usually stereotypes that may not be shining brightly. On our relationship and not enough knowledge than becomes shaved knowledge. jointly understood knowledge. So in a way out, history is not our common sense. Our history is being relegated to let's let's have some people who can write books on it. And then some of us were raised some of those books rather than all of us hanging out. This is actually positively. This is common sense. We grew up like this. And some of that stuff is not a good story, but some of the stuff is awesome. That's the challenge I. think that presented itself floor country locked stripe. Learn many around the world. But if we focus on this context, we have an opportunity to not only say his our relationship with our the oldest continuing cultures on earth, but he's a relationship with all the cultures on Earth as well. All of us living and we've got an amazing. ECLECTIC cultural identity that we would just not tapping into. When we come back. To two things, you shouldn't talk about at the dinner table. The main objective of his own project is to bring together entrepreneurs and creatives who share similar values, so they can find the courage to put out their authentic voice for the right people to which allows for them to make an impact on the world. Every great movement started with a memorable speech. For access, the full length interviews great your psychology. Of entrepeneurship, Dot Com and click the button. So what shooting you talk about at the dinner table. Lead Rawnsley from three years ago. Tell you this is from my talk. We've always approached different conversations and we've been told as long as you don't talk about religion and politics. Be. Fine we won't have a disagreement and everyone will be happy, but those are the two institutions. We should be challenging. We should be talking about because they've. Changed Perspective of the world, it's it's. They've given us this lense. The the. Two things shouldn't talk about it than you know those three things, politics and religion, so our grew up and there's two of the main things that is the topic. They are the talking a conversation at dinner. Politics and religion, so if you wanNA clear room, or if you want to spark a heated. Defensive Conversation then you bring those topics. And in a in context, our relationship with our first nations, people is one of those areas where it's like. If, we have to talk about it. We'd Prefer Dr. One of the things that I think is cool with this. Get to those dynamics about first nations people in the second one of the cooled dynamics to the reasons why such a big deal is the dynamic around sheller memory. Most of us cannot remember things. And our current modern society it runs. On it survives thrives it. Gains momentum by all of us having Schiller memory. So so what we start doing, is we? We started saying back in the day. And then we go way back in the day. I asked my. Asked my son because he used that phrase it goes. Back in the DOSA. Communities ask you. What do you mean by way back in the tape? And he said Oh. That's like two thousand and ten and I'm like wow, so two thousand and ten is way back in the day. For someone who's you know doing fourteen and that notion that we live in a world that has such shallow memory, we get confronted by people who carry around a much longer sense of identity and belonging from a much deeper memory that becomes confronting because we all know we have ancient ancestors. We all know we have. Grandparents, who had grandparents who had grandparents guys back to? At some point way way way back, but no everyone carries that memory with them so for aboriginal tar straight onto people in Australia for first nations, people here to be talking about things that impact this generation and carrying around memory of three four generations. It's that easy to do because we come from a culture of people who carry twenty. Or a hundred generations. Through our stories now there are other cultures who do this in this this is this is not peculiar to first nations people. Somebody did make stonehenge for example. Somebody did decide to construct a pyramid. Somebody did decide to write down the stories of some people in what's now. Nine is the Middle East. And turned it into a sacred text. For. You know three world religions now. So, this notion that having long memory is not peculiar to first nations people here. It is tournament that is that is around as human beings, but the reason why that's such a significant point to us is that when we talk about in order for us to survive in this modern reality we need if knowledge in recognition of the way that we have grown up as a country and we have people saying that doesn't affect us. It doesn't impact us. and. They're responding with their shallow memory, and they responding with a little future focused, and not history focused. But we know that that's also not true. Because the fifth of April, we become very historically furthest. On the twenty fifth of December, we become historically farthest trying to call on traditions so here in the context of strategy, we have people talking about the negative impacts of policies that happened one two three generations ago, but we also have people talk with clarity about. Their sense of the impact of first contact and the impact of first contact with Western ways of. Being and in the world, and people are still carrying memory around, and we turn to fellow strains. Look you. You need to get with the Times. It's where a modern society and for me. The work around the intercultural. Where we worked together is about trying to wrestle with that that disconnect and around. Some people can carry on memory and talk about it pain and suffering all the people kinda. So. We have manifestation of that. It's all around where people will say look this. You look at any social economic indicator. People can say this overrepresentation first nations. People aren't. You'll also then have people within notions about how to solve those issues. Some people dedicated their entire careers their lives to working on those issues. I think what's missing. Is that. What's missing is for millions of strenuous to turn around and. You know what that's just the way that's who we are, and this is all stuff that we need to work with an we need to focus on. So I I think. If. People listening from outside of stranding context, it is difficult to grasp the severity that first nations people feel. Around the social. Indicators Socio Economic Indicators whether that's a helpful. Justice, system more economic. access to economic enfranchisement. Whatever the the notion is! You have a narrative here. That's the first nations people over represented in disadvantage, but we also have to be honest. With the rising professional class around the first nations people as well and I would be one of. The people who done occupy the low socio economic statistics. But. Who are trying to Chata pathway? Out from net and in order to participate in the the the modern economy, the modern world. And there is a growing growing classes at the numbers of people who not only have university graduate degrees, but have perspective integrates the the disproportionate number of people who are able to access high levels of government, because they are indigenous leaders, it is, it is something that. We only to reframe as stereotypes and rather than say indigenous people, first nations, people porifts of power we can look at. There's actually some power and agency here and positively here that we're not seeing there is resilience here. That ought to belong to all of us. how you can go from the brink of civilization. Of Your cultural ways of being being lost to it thriving and you're participating in the. In the world of business, the world of politics. and. All the Hilton Wealth of the nation. Is there for you to access. Into thousand nine aboriginal filmmaker and author, Stephen Hagan wrote an article around racism in the Courier Mail confessing I'm on public record as saying Australians. Other racist people in the developed world for the treatment of the first Australians, and I make this claim comfortable in the knowledge that I am sufficiently supported by incontestable statistical data, and the data is there to back it up even eleven years later the Lincoln the nights to that news article as well as another really great article that was recently by creative spirits, surrounding racism in aboriginal Australia. You can find a ton of facts and links here to raise such federal. I suppose at the end of the day. It's all a matter of identity, challenge or and beauty about looking who are appealing back. Matters of identity is that it's so multilayered. It's multidimensional and where things become. Difficult in the spice is when. Elements or attributes of our cultural tendency micro become under contest or become threatened, and we know that it's a it's. It's a mixture. It's a concoction of what are folk. Tales are folk, low What our parents have told us you were this person and you come from these things and you. You'll you'll need this? We grow up with a a a folklore. That's that's that's told to us. Then we also have our final attributes worked out physically. We look like with we look similar to those people whoever they are or what? We don't look similar to those people. And then, of course, you've got your own determination that you self identifying. Push out into the world. And through some sort of concoction of that and the way, the other communities around US say US regardless we, we find that we have to navigate our our our identity in that sort of spice, and so many people will do all sorts of things will say. I'm a strong, such and such person over. Say Hey, look. Kinda doesn't matter. I'm a human of the world in this moment, so let's. Be Humans together and right across that spectrum. You've got a whole range of ovum of people to claim that the the reason why such a big deal in the first nations, indigenous space isn't so hotly contested. At it is a political declaration. If you can afford to not say that you are first nations, because if you will be able to go unscathed from people, costing negatively toward your negative stereotypes can afford to knock declare that. Then you're in a situation where you've got a different set of choices in around self declaration, but if you look stereotypically like. People Think Aboriginal People Australia need to look then you have not choice, and so how you declare your sense of identity belonging is is in itself a personal resilience, but unfortunately also in Australia. It is a it has political dimensions. If, you couldn't tell that thought of tune block on what I think is a topic that we will be going deep into. that is why we had to break this volume with mark into three. This one one will go into raced and break that down before the second part of the conversation with mark, and while this is a long journey. I don't want you to think that there is nothing you can do. Here's how not to be a spectator mock. That that is actually. I think that's one of the. Profound. Realities. Of the space. When? We spoke before we talked about how. This is often. Relegated to descendants of the first fleet and send us of the first peoples. So the British Oh, water strandings! And the aboriginal Australians they're the ones who have the STILO and the rest of a spectrum, and what has occurred, and and what is even more escalated in in our current times is that we don't know the language? We haven't liberated ourselves with language that means we can talk about these things. We don't even know the Christians to ask. We don't even know how to respond in a way. That weren't as spark a twitter storm on side or where? Everything is up full contestation. No one can can give very clear by head and for me, then they the response that I have and I know that it's it's the way that I am perhaps wind up from personality quantum view, but for me the way forward is to not find a right word or the right Statement to make but to find the right relationship. The relationship that's required is one where we are focused on building in creatively building trust amongst all of us enough trust for us to have the carnival to have open dialogue so that. We can stumble on AL language. We can trip over the words weakens. All come sorry about this, and there's enough trust that's been built for us to have dialogue at the moment, and even in our new modern contemporary immediate context around. If you say the wrong thing, then that could relegate you to. An extreme racist or extreme supremacists or extreme something Anita Zahn! and. That is not helpful Darnold, and it means that the people who've been spectating. Will remain victorious. Because, they. Get in. Up on the psychology of entrepreneurship. I mean professionally I. Think Author and keynote speaker I think those are the two main things that I that I do, and in two thousand eight when the US economy crashed I kind of crashed with it. That's when I came with the miracle morning to turn that situation around for me. I, am I was committed to change one million lives one morning at a time, no matter what there is no other option. If you go to Youtube, and you type in Hal elrod cancer, there are four cancer video blog that are recorded wall. I was going through it, and you can see my authentic attitude toward I'm like hey, guys. Most of US think I'm happy and grateful when things are going good. Right but I'm here to tell you that know when things are going bad, it's even more important. I interviewed mark because he is the founder and chief of super native unlimited specializing in creative and cultural leadership development mock yet a Poulsen has worked with organizations such as National Australia Bank struggling football league many bank, Australia, Australia Post and the foundation for Young Australians. He was joined campaign director for recognize the recent campaign for a national referendum to amend the Australian constitution to acknowledge aboriginal and Torres Strait. On People's and the removal of discrimination mock developed the educational foundations for the Australians, together workshops and presentations wall in his role as strategic business manager and keep present. He is attacked Speeco a visionary. And a uniter of people. This is a must amplify production special. Thanks to every guest expert that is the the show, editing, voice, overs and sound design by Kelly Bodyman and Vega guests, research and content by Clegg, Gould and current Castles Project managed by Katie. Bunyamin produced and hosted by me box full episodes, and where to listen, go to must amplify dot com slash p. e. her. Hey, hey, it's Kaley. For must amplify. I'm the sound engineer for this volume of psychology of entrepreneurship. I'm part of the team. Team that made this production come alive I work as a part of a global team without studios base in end Brisbane Australia if you're like a plug. Costing checklist emailed me at Keighley at amplify agency. Dot media that's K. A. L. I.. Amplify Agency, DOT Meteo we specialize in finding your voice and making sure it's head by the right people. If you're considering whether podcast is a good idea for your business, check out other show on should. I, saw a PODCAST DOT com.

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Extra: Perth Stadium

Monocle 24: Section D

05:54 min | 9 months ago

Extra: Perth Stadium

"Hello and very welcome to Monaco on design extra is that show brought to you by the team behind. Monaco's dedicated weekly design program. I'm I'm Josh now. Each week we pick a decent seat from which to serve a notion person or thing playing out in the arena of design with high profile a false stadiums nearing completion ahead of the Summer Olympics in Tokyo and then Los Angeles and plans for new stadia flying skywards in Milan and Rotterdam respectively. We we thought it was high time that we looked at how these sporting pantheon's can connect with and embellish the cities that they call home Monaco's neck Minnie's jetted down to Perth and sat down with Peter Dean principal architect at the design firm Hassle. He wanted to find out more about the final stages of development for Perth opther stadium. And why it's designed needed to account for more than just ozzy rules in cricket think Parkland better way finding walking routes and better transport. Take it away nick. Sitting on Australia's West Coast Perth City blessed with good weather pristine beaches and laid back attitudes thanks to a decade-long morning boom the sprawling metropolis has seen a number of large civic projects completed in recent years from libraries to theaters and a soon to be opened museum. But it seems seems that number more debated or consume the public's consciousness quite like the new stadium completed in two thousand eighteen designed by Hassell and Cox Architecture it's an enormous structure structure clad in bronze that rises out of Majestic Park Land A. K.. Part of the design brief was to create a stadium that reflected the state and city. It sits in. But how do you use you something with a sense of place without being literal about it in a way that subtler and more considered than just sticking a name on the side of the building trying to understand what the assistant prices visit the landscape is paypal. Is it a whether is it the view an it's just under some of those and you can never really put your finger on it. I don't think there's no won't move a one year now in this place over the years. She's understanding funding the characteristics of what people resonate with something. When you go into New York I guess about the sky rises about the drama Highrise what's destroys very much connected to environment. It's outdoor settings rivers is long horizontal views. It's amazing relaxed lifestyle. It doesn't matter who you are and what's destroy you you're always it's an informal committing Melissa. Party didn't get she could be with. The tweety is equally myself. You know you could be from the heart and every welcome. It's just an all embracing environment. And that's that's what we try to do in the ninety especially with a capacity of sixty thousand for most events. The stadium will host everything from concerts to Australian football league matches as well as conferences in guards in newly minted entertainment facilities and it's from these facilities. That guests will reacting to enjoy sweeping views towards the city scar on the stadium sits on abandoned the river butting up against the existing Belmont want rice course and new residential developments in the birds would neighborhood all of which is just a few kilometers from the central business district and appreciation of this broader landscape. skype and connection to the city is something. Visitors can enjoy throughout their stadium. Experience when you're in the stadium because outside the stadium you very much connected to the context. It's not just about focusing into the seating bowl itself which is priority for the event PRIEM. post-game how'd you arrive. How you depart? How'd you meet and socialize? We want to reach everything externally so looking out to the COMTEX engaging beautiful landscape and leverage off he is beautiful setting is one of the fortunate stadiums in the world. It's got an amazing setting which is accessible from the poll. Funny it's right on the doorstep to the city you can look at the city water. Expensively they one amazing park is forty the heck with landscaping as part of a stadium. It's blessed he's a very big Bryant move by the previous government to actually move it to that location but what accredits eleven. It's transformed how the city looks for yourself now. Actually we can go beyond the river. No perfect always been an all south conversation. Now it's actually the reason the middle along the boundary because she straight right across it and I doubt will actually start activating and and really connection to Crime Casino Belmont all those elements are on Biz. out becoming inner city provident being dot Tuck. TJ Anyway Public Transport Gripe the trains and buses the best way to go enjoy south of the grime have a few drinks a movie. Four or go to the city guts. The game come back to the city. You can just have a more relaxing enjoyment just to dry phonic alpha king by just enjoy being an international city so I think it has given a lot of people in a real the confidence to solve about what they are and we're playing host host international rock bands welcoming football teams like Manchester United for friendly matches. It's certainly doing sorry connecting the world with Perth in a setting that's uniquely well per and many deeply sincere thanks to nick Minnie's and Saudi. That's all we have time for this week's show for more design minded material L. D. listened to our full half hour program on Tuesdays at eight PM. London time or you can pick up a copy of monocle magazine or are seasonal newspapers from all self-respecting. Newsstands this week show was produced by Lee Evans. 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Friday 27 September

Monocle 24: The Briefing

58:55 min | 11 months ago

Friday 27 September

"You're listening to the briefing first broadcast on the twenty seventh of September Two Thousand Nineteen on monocle twenty four the briefing is brought to you in partnership with Rolex hello and welcome to the briefing coming to you live from studio one here Midori House in London. I'm Andrew Miller coming up. I think the whistle blow it did the right thing I think he followed the law every step of the way it isn't looking good for. US President Donald Trump then very often doesn't is the Ukraine scandal really going to be the one that finishes him and also ahead. We'll examine the pivotal role that Australia's main tabloid could be playing in this weekend's national election. All Stream parties need the support of the corner insight. I took they want to succeed. It's still the main source of news for staggering number of Australians news panel will look at the United States torment of of Cuba's first family brexit as seen from abroad and the prospect of a week on the beach in Saudi Arabia and we'll look forward to tomorrow's Australian rules football grand final in Melbourne with a celebration of the Australian Football Leagues quaint tradition of clubs songs. That's all coming up right here. On the briefing on monocle twenty four welcome to today's edition of the briefing with Andrew Miller. Donald Trump has now been president of the United States just shy Roy over one thousand days and it feels like there has been at least that many variations asked of the question is visit is this at lost the point point at which the wheels have come unquestionably and irrecoverably off the clown car so far the answer has been no inexplicably but the gathering scandal over the President Trump's we'd interactions with Ukraine does appear to have legs a complaint by a credible whistle blow appears damning calling trump's conduct serious this or flagrant problem abuse or violation of the law impeachment is underway will join me now to assess the depth and the wolf of the soup in which the President finds himself is Scott Lucas Professor of American studies at the University of Birmingham Scott especially in the last twenty four hours in particular. What have we learned. Where are we with this well. The trump clown car rattles on but the evidence is pretty damning. We have the combination of the transcript of the phone call between Mr Trump and president of the landscape in late July and we now have the complaint of the US intelligence official which is based not only on that call but on months of behavior by trump is attorney Rudy Giuliani and the complaint which is based not just on this one. US intelligence official but on what he has been told by multiple White House officials. What does that say look. Donald trump up in late. July told the president of Ukraine repeatedly to investigate Joe Biden who is the former vice president and who is standing for President who thousand twenty twenty now that alone is a possible crime which is interference in the US election but beyond that trump implicitly linked that to pressure which was I've suspended military aid to Ukraine. Trump personally ordered the holdup of four hundred million dollars in aid only a few days earlier if you would like that aid you need to do this investigation. And what is significant about the document from the intelligence officials. This was not a one-off incident instead since late two thousand eighteen trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani had been pressing Ukraine officials to dig up dirt on Joe Biden had been dealing with disgraced Ukraine officials who had been fired for corruption who he thought could support that case and this entire effort against by his son hunter is not based on any evidence which Ukrainian officials have confirmed but is based on a conspiracy theory and unfounded conspiracy theory that bind intervened arraigned to get a prosecutor fired two thousand sixteen to protect his son so the combination of working conspiracy theory trump has done that before approaching a foreign government to have him help and his election effort just think about Russia but the habit so crystallized in these two documents which is directly approach approach a president or a foreign country and say investigate my political rival that is certainly I think sufficient for Nancy Pelosi to come off the fence and say there should be impeachment inquiry on the basis of what we know about this is there how far we stretch our imaginations and the bounds of credulity not is there any potential known dull g explanation for all of this well. The the president's explanation which has shifted has been that off off first of all. Oh what from call did it was. I didn't mention Biden on the phone call that it was oh. I didn't ask for any investigation of Biden in the the phone. Call now that this is out. I don't think there's any explanation on the basis of the facts that can justify what has occurred the most that trump supporters can say is is that the both the compliant and the transcript or not explicit about linking the threat of suspending foreign aid over to the investigation of Joe Biden but I remember the trump folks don't work on the basis of facts their counterattack will be this is all hoax. This is fake news media. This is presidential harassment. This is just like trump Russia wrong ignoring the fact that trump Russia culminated in finding of evidence of trump's obstruction of justice they in other words will try to shoot the Messenger and hope that we don't actually consider the evidence in the message. I mean it's another question I feel like I've asked at least two thousand times uh-huh as well possibly a thousand times to you alone but on this particular occasion do you detect any signs of nervousness now among Congressional Republicans and yes. There is nervousness. Now I want to preface this by saying that unless I say -nificant amount of Republicans cut themselves loose from Donald trump he he will not be convicted of impeachment in the Senate where you have to have a two thirds vote and where the Republicans have the majority but we have had three Republican senators the most prominent being the two thousand thousand twelve presidential nominee Mitt Romney who said they are disturbed by what has come out and what is more striking as a larger number. Republicans who just would not comment on Thursday who were reserving judgment some of these included normally people you would expect to support trump so at the very least I think they're rattled by what we are actually finding out in the end. Does that mean that politically. They'll make the jump away from trump. I doubt it but we're in early days. the the next step will probably be that the intelligence official who lodged the complaint who was the CIA liaison with the White House over Ukraine matters will probably appear before congressional committees and we'll see what more he can add to the story. I wonder what finally about how this is going to play in terms of domestic politics takes in the United States and I'm not talking so much about trump's base. I think we understand by now that there's about thirty percent voters who aren't going to budge even if Donald Trump announces insist that he's real name is Sergei Baryshnikov that he holds the rank of colonel in the Gi you but is there any possibility at all that any of this actually works works for trump that he can get the idea out there. There is something vaguely weird about why Ukrainian Gas Company would want to hire the vice president of the United States Sun and and maybe he's flinging up enough cough that some of it might stick indeed chopsticks. I'm not entirely sure that metaphor hundred together but you know what I'm saying. Let's go with throwing dust in our eyes remember. That's better that this has been the trump tactic ever since he ran for president since you had stories during the campaign of his sexual harassment of women and that is you respond by being aggressive by putting out disinformation by denying that anything on tortoise occurred by saying it's is all your enemies and you try yourself as the victim now remember there are multiple investigations against Donald Trump we also have to consider the investigations into its tax affairs his financial affairs where he has been accused of fraud the accusation that he and his trump organization person profited from the presidency and that the trumper invest Russia is not closed but I think ultimately because I doubt there'll be a conviction on impeachment you put the core question and that is will enough Americans and forget about those who will stick with trump. Come hell or high water will enough. Americans think that there needs to be accountability and they did a needs to be a judgment based on evidence rather other than on disinformation diversion that they hold them accountable at the polls in November twenty twenty. I think the ultimate test Donald Trump is whether he can get away with us to get a second term-in-office if he does realize what that means that means the dot attempt to disinform to divert triumphs the trump's over the US system system trump's over US values and where America goes next beyond Donald Trump as a system well. It'll be very uncertain and I think well dark times times ahead. If that happens but we're ahead of ourselves let's go back to the fact that we at least have evidence which does point to abuses of power does point to a crime and if people keep focused on that at least there may be some level of accountability in the weeks and months ahead. Scott Lucas. Thanks as always for joining us. You're listening to the briefing now with a look at the day's headlines here is Monaco's NOCCO tackles hippie. Thank you Andrew the president of the European Commission. Jean Claude Garcia is doing all he can to get brexit deal and if talks fail it would be the U. K. 's Response Ability Young also told the German newspaper the Abu Allgemeiner that it would be a disaster if the UK leaves the EU without without a deal Saudi Arabia is opening its doors to international tourists for the first time the move is sparse off abroad a push to cut its economic dependence dependence on oil the kingdom is also expected to relax it struck only and dress codes for female visitors will have more on this story of today's business is headlines and today's monocle minute reports that delivery drivers in New York should probably get used to working night shifts. The city council has recently gently approved a bill that will require all deliveries to buildings owned to buy the seat to be made overnight for more on this heads to Monaco dot com forward slash rush minutes. Those are the day's headlines now back to enter. Thanks Marcus now for a look at the business news we are joined by Bloomberg's you and pots Ewan on a number number of fronts Ukraine's President Vladimir Zelinski is having quite a week of it yeah. It's been a pretty Ross in week for him had been carrying all so well for presidents for the president of Ukraine dazzled invested with a flurry of reforms brought by prisoners from Russian captivity. I'm enjoying an approval rating which would make even Vladimir Putin Blush Josh over seventy percent in many polls the former TV comic who of course shots apparent that landslide election has been caught up rather. I'm on winning the Abbot Imagine in this transcript of the fungal visitation with President trump which has been all over the world's media today a lot of bits of that pretty tricky for the Ukrainian any president not least his criticism of the European Union and also of course the business of being off repeatedly to dig up on on Joe Biden but today another economic blow to Ukraine as an International Monetary Fund mission left Kiev today without the preliminary deal for five billion dollars of funding that the Ukrainian government was seeking now. It's discussions on a new program. We're going to continue but the IMF really didn't pull any punches in statement. It says that growth in growth in Ukraine is held back by a week business environment it also cited shortcomings in the legal framework pervasive corruption large parts of the economy dominated by inefficient state-owned enterprises so a bit of a blow for the cranium presidents so far the currency is the best performer against the delays really being a bit of a darling of investors this year but this this is not a welcome news in Kiev and also you into seems to becoming a recurring theme of this spot another large share offer receiving slightly less the teacup that might have been anticipated twenty nineteen was supposed to be Wall Street's obvious J. finally bringing long-awaited public debut share offerings of many of the hottest startups and of course the healthy fees and the deal prestige that come with them for the banks on Wall Street a really hasn't gone as planned a tool now fitness startup. What's up Peleton interactive become the latest major sheriff ring to full flat on its face it drops eleven percent on its first day of trading being the roll? Call of companies are not doing so well in their share off as getting pretty long now we've had uber and lift of course the ridesharing. APPS and Smile Direct Club which sells is a dental products over the Internet shares are all down some thirty percent from their offer prices and of course we importing on monocle about we work the flexible office provider which had me. I mean for the second biggest listing of the year and that's what we put off now and in fact the CO founder Adam Newman has quit as chief executive active over the failure to get the share offer out of the door. the overall the dishes have been lagging behind the market. They've been they climbed just just six and a half percent from their offer prices on average this year the WTA market the S. and P. Five hundred has gained about nineteen percent you in with Bloomberg. Thank you conjoining us. You're listening to the briefing coming soon Monaco Rolex. Bring you the pioneers. The pioneers is a brand new series that tells the stories of people improving the planet. You'll hear how Rolex supports these innovators with whom they share a passion to safeguard the F for future generations gain precious insights into the fresh thinking that his disrupting corrupting received wisdom for the better and learn how Phyllis action continues to be the crucial driver of change the pioneers coming soon to one twenty four You're listening to the briefing with me Andrew Miller. It's time I'm now to take a longer look at the day's news without news panel which today consists of Oscar for your Rivera professor in international law and International Affairs at Birkbeck College and you'll see Mickelberg professor of international relations at Regent's University also a columnist for Arab News now first of all listeners whose memories have not been obliterated by the various political nonsense of recent years may still recall the time at which looked fleetingly like the United States was going to adopt a policy towards Cuba rooted in something other than the fallacy of sunk costs in two thousand fourteen. US President Barrack Obama began a winding down of the half century embargo which had accomplished little little but the isolation of Cuba and the entrenching of the Castros the US has now re sanctioned Ralph Castro for Secretary of the Cuban Communist Party and his children children. This is by way of retribution for Cuba's support for President Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela Oscar. Am I missing anything here or is this just about as petulant and silly as it looks Ralph Castro's support for Nicholas Maduro really make any difference to anything. You're not missing anything anything. Andrew Washington seems to be missing that will Castro is no longer the president of Cuba to be he's still project to to joke elite unless he still has weight of course but it's a falsehood to anyone who knows anything about the internal the politics of Venezuela to argue as Mike Pompeo deed that Issa Cuba who UNICEF propping up my Lulu. Oh Lewis is still there is because of the absolute failure of the opposition led by one why though he is quite surprising thing that these new wave of sanctions takes no account of the fact that two weeks ago every single newspaper in Latin America beginning with Columbia Columbia no sympathisers of the government published pictures in which way door is seen with drug dealers and leaders of the far right wing Win Colombian paramilitary which of course means that he's you know he's acceptance potential acceptance within Venezuela. It's a closer to zero and in fact the government need sign an agreement with sectors of the opposition two weeks ago so no surprises he's here just a new wave of sanctions of course this is more part of the reaction of the trump administration against anything on everything that the Obama Administration did but he has no betting on the situation in Venice when we will come back to that theme short just wanted to follow up this quickly though Oscar you mention the new secretary of State Mike pompeo he has been muttering darkly that Cuba's security forces such as they may be making some sort of contribution to the president medeiros apparatus of repression. Do we know anything about that for sure and does end or does it sound likely well. It is being said are we have evidence of human rights violations within Bene- sweater but what matters in terms of international law human rights is whether these violations relations are being carried out by the government who should be protecting its own people there is there have been reports reports on that we we have no clear evidence of Cuba's engagement with that particular issue what we do a half evidence for is for the fact that this sanctions were will continue to hit the people of Cuba and Venezuela the hardest not the leadership. You'll see also has already raised the the psychodrama that might be underpinning this. We've seen it time and again with President Trump's administration. If if Obama did it we must undo it or override it or I'm Pickett'll destroy. It is that what's going on here. Is it as simple impulse that because this was this was one of Obama's great showpiece foreign policy moments. I I will end this nonsensical blockade of Cuba. I will normalize relations. He went to Cuba in two thousand sixteen. I think off the top of my head the first US president to do that since coolidge is it basically that is just trump trying to to undo Obama. There is element of this because it's the health policies. It's any points system that we know but I think why the moving the model I don't think anyone is a is against it but what happens right now under the trump administration that identify a problem and the prescribe all wrong and and you can go while the world and you see exactly so did restrict the movement of an eighty six years old Lee. They're not a teaser Guinean the Oscars as very much in the bag out. There is the new generation the reason you constitution in in Cuba changes are the changes Saturday at at the rate. It's many of us would like to see maybe not but they'll doing that. In the Cuban way in moving forward allowing private porperty allying investment in Cuba it it opens up in the way they should find the right way for Cuba for the United States to keep on after the pain inflicted on Cuba since one thousand nine hundred sixty them boggled it and they beat the way Paul along a lot of what's happening in Cuba has down to the United States because in the end of the day there is no American foreign policy to with Q. But there is an obsession grows also follow probably goes all the way to the splendid little off eighteen ninety eight and be we are entering the citizen of of of elections in the United States and these plays well in Florida and he's not only compel the speech by John Bolton few months ago when you went to talk about the brigade invaded in the Bay of Pigs and talking about how unfair will the Cubans that the dead mall to ops there then then then then the exile because as it is a football game that you need you too every eleven against eleven so I think look at this as an obsession in the domestic politics has nothing to do with changes either mentally ill or in Cuba well. Let's life seamlessly along on the subject of countries pursuing counterproductive policies for no clear reason and take a look that is to say at the UK and try to see it for the next few minutes as the Non British will season and listeners who've picked up the accents around this table will understand that this panel has obvious abuse advantages on this front a long standing stereotype of Britain's politics is that they are properly British sensible series decorous to coin a phrase strong long and stable. The last few years have been if we might attempt. Here's some British understatement something of a test of these assumptions. So what effect is this having having own brand Britain abroad an Oscar first of all we we should reflect slightly on the events of this week even by the Standards Aww Brexit. How mad has this been as mad as the mad hatter or even worse. I mean let me let me you speak to the reaction in my part of the world in Latin America the widespread reaction in news outlets in in the Americas welcome welcome to the Third World. We've been missing you this. This is Britain's the banana monarchy totally fact among ready to quote a couple a couple of pieces one published by Francisco Theaters in Columbia newspaper espectador another that can be so Moslem former Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff who says interview with L. as in both cases what is happening in the UK is being seen in the Americas against the backdrop of the emergence of the far writing the Americas and they see exactly the same elements rightly or wrongly they see exactly the same elements appearing at this point of the Brexit madness crisis these these point of the use of language is not a matter of politeness is not a matter of political correctness. If you take Brazil for instance you can see that hey language has been being used by the bolts on administration to isolate indigenous communities in the Amazon thereby affecting just Brazilians interest but but the entire world we saw it again when we also now does poking the United Nations so for ask that in Americans you know we we've been dealing with this search for quite a few decades in we can identify it a name it for what it is. These are the real life of form of for beginning to look behind deep divisions within the people itself. Probably it also means. We need to talk about the people Iasi is is there much talk in the Middle East as it beholds. What's occurring here assembling some sort of peacekeeping force well. I I was relieved to sit in the release. No one called it's just a British Hamburg really don't want to talk about this anymore but in all seriousness it's buffers and indifference. I think from from Latin in America the the connection with the UK and the colonialists colonist heritage or legacy if you like in in the Middle East because some people think goes as long as the Middle East they say oh we depletes then we sort everything out and now with everyone is watching these in Kobe so this this really belongs to a different era in the UK and look a trade relations between between the UK and the Middle East the strategic relations relations military relations all of this sharing intelligence and all of his own if he call it's an animal or or anything. I guess you know we might have some homeless. Monarchy's you know at the end of the day. This is a serious matter. When you have such a large economies oh no me such a important member of NATO descending into a false and the inability to take decision and the as the parliaments until the middle. I love the night or the early hours of the morning. We followed the ability to take decisions. This is for instance at the time that there are tensions going in the Gulf and part of it. You would like to see Britain. Involvement is this is this is the prime minister. We are going to rely on to to defend some for interest. Maybe not on that subject Oscar if we can narrow this down to the figure of Boris Johnson who has spent his entire life playing the part of the specifically English in fact not even British but specifically typically English caricature of the sort of artfully dishevelled upper-class eccentric it. It's a it's a a reliable trope of of British fiction British literature of British movies. It is a it's a figure with which the whole world is somehow familiar but does the will take it seriously as the leader of what is as Yossi remind still in theory at least and extremely serious country well. I'm sure Andrew as many of us did you witnessed bodies. varies a speech in in New York when in after after he was told of the decision by the Supreme Court he sounded very jetlagged not only that at some point look at the audience this reaction at some point you know the viewer begins to wonder I are they laughing at his jokes or are they laughing at him. at some point it becomes the latter. I'm afraid that East clearly the case. I mean it takes a lot of cars for letting Americans to you know to joke and say you know welcome to the world. Now you see now you you you. You see how how it is like but again the more serious part of these is a we heard that we are beginning to see the how are you most beloved principal separation of powers and so on and so forth are just not nearly enough. They're not you know ready an APP to the task of taking a decision when the people itself divided so we we need to begin to rethink all of these concepts including the concept of popular sovereignty and so on and and so forth or to put it in a battle brats famous temps. We might need to elect ourselves another people well. Let's move along finally on on the news panel to Saudi Arabia literally if we found it the hitherto inhospitable kingdom is to liberalize its visa regime in a bid to open up a tourist. I industry not exclusively reliant on religious pilgrims visas will be offered to the citizens of forty nine countries yet to be named and some concessions to visitors his will also be available. Female tourists will not be confined to the full abaya and will even be permitted to travel by themselves golly. Imagine the ban on alcohol will be upheld however Yossi you are you tempted by the prospect of a big side holiday in Jeddah. I would like to Google for holiday resorts on the let's see I know I know the Red Sea from the other side so I wouldn't mind to see from Saudi Arabia but you know it. I think we have to take the reforms in Saudi Arabia seriously. I know sometimes we take very Weston's attitude and say oh. Why can't they be will we are but the same time if you look at the reforms in the West they took very long time between the American constitution until that's you know African American didn't even have to give a seat in Alabama true enough and so sometimes we we need to look at the direction is the right direction but not always to push on on the pace even if you like to see a much faster pace of of a foam but this is another move forward in Saudi Arabia again it might look for us really small steps women but having a allowed to travel getting their own passport but all of these are moves that shows that under the counts monarchy the accounts monarch and all of MBA's there is a way folding. Why not I think the motorist coming there. The more engagement it more it opens up and the the changes that you know would like to see I I did want to broaden this idea out a little bit to talk about countries which are difficult to get into with the exception of a few countries like Saudi Arabia Travel and the acquisition of visas has become much more easy generally than it used to be but I can remember when it was quite frequently a terrific past Oscar. What's been the hardest country you found to get into all remember. I'm Colombian so it was pretty much every it until very recently now hilariously it seems to see if my Colombian passport my become more handy than it might British one. If brexit keeps going this way because we can now travel without visa through the Schengen Treaty countries so the walls time still zeal is the case that traveling to the United States very very complicated for Columbia see still very difficult. It is still it is difficult for letting American students who want to come to the United Kingdom to get their visas very very complicated unnecessarily certainly complicated and he's affecting that sector of the economy if you want to put it that way so yeah I remember very very well you know after nine eleven when I was very nervously passing my Colombian passport all of a sudden. I'm told Okay you go. You know Paul McKenna. I mean you'll see as a journalist. I've attempted to get visas to a few places which clearly won't K. North Korea is I found the the two impossible Belarus I tried with and they did that thing of just never quite saying no but never saying yes obviously in the hope that you would would get bored and go away eventually and in fairness I did so it worked Israel. I have found on a couple of occasions very hard country to get out of having been I love guests exactly they just wanted to be to stay at the airport that little bit longer and have you found yourself facing any particular difficulties getting in anywhere anywhere. We've easily passport still many countries. This is one way ticket indeed supposed to be at the expense of the government wherever they will walk me so there's a lot of countries that still for example why did admit anybody with. Israeli stamp in their policy yes but you know if I want for my research which would be fascinating fascinating. Dakota Iran probably not a good idea Lebanon and you know there is a of of of countries that on these can do it on the British passport but not on Monday they said on the other end unlike Columbia. The lot of of of of countries that welcome Israel is even without visas. I think they still you know I cherish my British possibles. Come to traveling because it's way easier then at least to some parts of the world we've we've they really want we physically to security and sometimes over over offers doing that in. Israeli airport in wants you to spend money and we eventually let you go yeah we. Columbia's are popular now. It seems yeah philly Matza upbeat note Oscar Rivera and you'll see Michael. Thank you both very much for joining. You're listening to the briefing on monocle twenty four You are listening to the briefing monocle twenty four tomorrow. Afghans will vote in the country's fourth presidential election as is always the case with after an election. Visiting a polling station will be depressingly far from a risk free exercise. The country has recently been plagued by a series of deadly attacks by the Taliban and they are not noted enthusiasts of Democracy President Ashraf. Johnny is seeking a second five-year term a field of fifteen other candidates hope to thwart him while I'm joined now by Lynn O'Donnell who was AP's bureau chief in Afghanistan Afghanistan for a number of years Lynn first of all to that point about Election Day security how dangerous election day in Afghanistan going to be well as you said it's quite dangerous simply because the Taliban have made it very clear that they going to launch attacks against people devoted. They don't support democracy. They don't recognize the government they see. President Ghani as an American pop ish and any participation in in democratic activity as betrayal of Islamic values now when people go to vote they line up and often they line up for hours and hours so they become standing targets August and the Talibans history of attacking Election Day Abu Tinsel is is a ATTRAC- history so and yes. It's dangerous to vote in Afghanistan. Those those extraordinary indeed mortal risks that many many Afghans willing to run in order to cast their vote are of course both heartening and humbling but when you were working there what was your sense from speaking to people of why they thought it was worth taking this risk a lot of people have signed up to the democratic projects that was introduced after the Taliban routed in two thousand one the I I am election was in two thousand four and there was a phenomenal turn out there was a more than eighty percent of people who were eligible to vote and since then the Afghan people just become weary of the corruption and the difficulty in the lies and the g body associated with the with the count don't end ballot stuffing and the fraud. That's been involved in so over the years since then. You said you know this is a fool's. There's also parliamentary elections and district. Council elections and participation has just fallen away to listen forty percent. I think that in two thousand fourteen which was the last presidential election there was like thirty five percents people getting sick of being had and they're expecting the same thing now so yea I mean we've seen it in in Iraq and other troubled countries people do want to get out and have their voices heard but if they think that the voice is not being being hood that they just shouting into the wind then they get tired of it and then they don't go on the other hand. You got a lot of them. Media reports over the last few Diet coaching people saying I'm not going to be bothered. I'M NOT GONNA go out vote but as I found when I was living there an Afghan can tell you one thing and do another thing thing when he's changed his mind a couple of minutes later and that's not an indictment John Character. It's just the way it is so people might say they won't go and vote and then they will the backdrop or backdrop to this election is of course the peace talks between the United States and the Taliban recently abrogated at the United States insistence assistance but it's clear I think to everybody that the United States has long since lost interest in Afghanistan and doesn't really want all that much to do with it anymore is there fear among Afghans and especially among the Afghan government and the people who've worked for it and the people who have signed up for the idea in the structures they might be on the verge bring sold out by America a very much the the prices the so-called peace process that was initiated by President Trump and carried out by his envoy. Zalmay Khalilzad worried an awful lot of people in Afghanistan women's groups civil rights workers people who signed up to the you know the constitutional rights that they've been given journalists freedom of speech advocates people were very worried that they were being sold out by Khalilzad. WHO's a very very ambitious socal diplomats who doesn't really have a track record of success behind him but really wanted to come out of it with a peace deal so you know what he didn't do was included the Afghan people and the government in that process that was sidelined Ashraf Ghani's government was utterly de legitimized as these were going on and if a win they start up again there is a fear that this will also be the case people are under any illusions about what the Alabama no matter what they say on a matter what Zamel Zalmay Khalilzad state what about them they misogynistic violent Islamist extremists who reached the country in the five years that they were in power and there's a lot of date memory in Afghanistan honest about that so just finally how confident will President Ashraf Ghani be about winning the Presidency Again Dude yes. I think he can be confident. He's going up again against Abdullah. Abdulah who has paid his chief executive which basically means Prime Minister without the title title for the last five years Ghani as the incumbent has the running and I think he probably has the support of the international community as well I think it may be a close run thing. We might see re page of twenty fourteen where they were very close but I doubt very much. We're going to have a second run-off this time. I think they'll be one the weather. It's fraught with fraud which is more likely than nausea. I think Johnny will probably prevail and he will be feeling vindicated by the collapse. The trump pays if it's with the Taliban and he will want to be the man who brings pace to the country Leno Donald. Thank you as always for joining us. You're listening to the briefing on monocle twenty twenty four this is the briefing and proceeding seamlessly on the theme of countries trees beginning with a which are having elections this weekend to Austria specifically to the Kronen Zeitung Australia's most widely read newspaper with an extraordinary daily circulation accusation of around seven hundred thousand copies Kronen Zeitung is aimed at a broad section of society and Serves Pretty Traditional tabloid fair but because of its reach it also has the power to on horse politicians and change public opinion this power might yet prove deadly for Australia's far right Freedom Party which lost the the newspapers support following the visa gate scandal Monaco's Alexi Korolyov reports from Vienna. Ooh This is the infamous it'd be a gate video brought down the Australian government in May named after this Spanish island where it was recorded footage shows former vice chancellor Hans Christian talk talking turn turn alleged Russian investor. The investor turned out to be an actress office to buy a large stake in the corner site on tabloid and changes Detoro Oreo position to openly support his far-right Freedom Party in exchange taller promises her lucrative construction contracts. That's corruption eruption pure and simple but why the corn settled. It's just the basic numbers. There are still about more than two million people who read on content on every day and on the weekends it's even more. It's two point six million. We have above eight million inhabitants in Australia. So according to Tatton just reaches a big part of the population Gal Gekas bad guy is deputy editor in Chief of dossier vienna-based Investigative magazine that devoted a special issue to the corn inside hunk earlier. This year for longtime has been. I'm just saying that as party. You can't really survive in Austria. If you have to Conan's against you but Conan's Adam has always done very cleverly or very well they have identified the mood kind of the general mood in the public and have reported accordingly. What special corn inside is that if they identify topic if they started campaign the whole newspaper rights for this cold so you have the reports with also the opinion pieces the all aim with the same direction. That's why it's so powerful commonly known as the corner the coinciding first came out in the nineteen hundred in nineteen fifty nine it was acquired by journalists. Hans Deante who led it till his death in twenty ten when it was taken over by his son Christoph the newspapers political sympathies detoro policies policies have fluctuated over the years but the freedom policy has always been. It's friend Gayle gekas beggar for three decades. Now the CONAN's atom has been in sort orphan alliance with the Freedom Party Australia the goals of the newspaper and the Party. I think just matched both anti immigration. They're both can't blade blade with antisemitic symbols and codes then it. Beatha Gate happened and the Cornyn site and was ambiguous in its response. I think Um stuff and even the chief editor in chief of cornerstone I think they felt personally betrayed by style and by the Freedom Party in general because there has been sort of loop trust that has been built up that kids that I think is really harmful. This shouldn't be such a close relationship between the Party and the newspaper but now they really felt betrayed it and I think they kind of reacted like a friend who who feels betrayed by his best friend wrote pieces to promote critical. I think today's after the pizza's scandal they you had the headline on the first page that said this is this is the end of the year so what does all that mean for the freedom policy and for the Sunday elections. I think this election election we'd show if the corner still as powerful as it used to be if I would have to guess I would say it will not harm the free party matronly and the main reason for that is that we don't have to say media landscape is ten or twenty years ago their social media and the Freedom Party's especially strong on social media. They have their own TV station. They have really huge facebook pages and so they don't rely as much on the traditional media as they usurped except whatever the power of social media all Austrian parties need the support of the CONAN's Sytem if they want to succeed it still the main source of news used for staggering number of Austrians so has the Freedom Party shot itself in the foot there. We'll find out on Sunday for Monaco in Vienna. I'm Alexey Korolyov. Thanks Alexi. You're listening to the briefing coming soon. Monaco Rolex bring you the pioneers for the founder founder of Rolex Hands Villes dove. The world was like a living laboratory he began to use it as a testing ground for his watches from the nineteen thirties sending them to the most extreme locations supporting explorers ventured into the unknown but the world has changed as the twentieth century unfolds exploration for pure discovery has given way to it creation nation as a means to preserve the natural world to make the planet perpetual lend more with the pine is coming soon to wonderful twenty four Tom now on the briefing to take a look at the day's newspapers joined once again by monocle twenty four page Reynolds. I can't believe the whole front page. News is just now occurred to me we need. We need a jingle and a theme lacking on inside defense. Okay well until we have your jingle. In place we all just kind of have to correct on and review what he's actually in the newspapers Where are we starting. We're GONNA START WITH A store. That's GONNA. Most of the newspapers are following every lead on today as well. That's of course the trump impeachment story most papers a- leading on information that White House officials potentially attempt to cover up this phone call that trump had with Ukrainian landscape but I found to slightly more interesting takes one the first one in the F. T. trump's gondola leaves. Ukraine president caught in a trap so this Oth- coup is is essentially saying this is a delicate going to be a delicate balancing act for new presidents. Alinsky overcooked strikes me as quite the understatement indeed he's he's sort of came to his presence presidency promising to bring peace in eastern Ukraine so he can't afford alienate trump a US leader whose softer on Russia's Putin not at this time also documents how Ukrainian officials McCain to build a chemistry between Kiev and Washington and the article says this has now been poisoned poisoned at a critical juncture. It's a weird bind. I think trump puts all other foreign leaders in because everyone now I think understands the way to get him on board which is just to grovel and flatter but obviously when that the reality of that is presented an transcribed or annotated you do they just end up looking like well like a grobler and a flatter exactly and I think they all schools points this out quite passionately one analyst noting the while it's it's important to keep good relations with the current president. It's also really crucial to maintain a bipartisan support something there's Alinsky might struggle with and it's not just these hopes for a coordinated Western pressure on Moscow. That's at stake but his reputation is a liberal reformer if he looks like he's got a acquiescing to trump's demands in any way to the Ukrainian. AM people that says hey it will look like he's not serious about judicial reform and fighting corruption. You know the very promises. He came to presidency on. What else do we have in commercially indeed so I think if you're looking to understand sort of trump's fixation on Ukraine I would suggest having a look at the front page of the New York Times the headline fixation on Ukraine led to crisis for trump. This ought to links all back to a pool manager for the Clinton emails and two thousand sixteen election in interference on trucks trump's personal were redid. Giuliani's efforts in the pasta to collect information and tried to push the Ukrainian government issue corruption interface. investigations are politically beneficial to one cannot at the moment possibly read enough about Rudolph Giuliani I I am. I'm so looking forward to the bio. Pic can't imagine who they go to get to play him. Does it cost any particular light on why Giuliani is doing and saying being the things that Giuliani is doing because it is it is remarkable. He's the PR the personal attorney of the president of the United States and he has basically gone full loyal normal hops off the simpsons. Yeah 'cause that's pretty crazy. Actually has so Giuliani basically started this. I guess sort of information collecting effort in Ukraine kind of response to the star of the Mueller investigation and he's saying I decided to do this because I couldn't couldn't get law. Enforcement agencies interested in doing their job. Arba just put out publicly and I would see if anyone was interested in it so I mean I surely within that. We kind of see the the things he's investigating. Perhaps aren't particularly above board. I do want to mention my favorite Giuliani quote from the last twenty four hours and this was cited by Elena plot whose the White House correspondent in the United States. She spoke to him by phone yesterday. Giuliani's quote to her and I quote precisely was it is impossible that the whistle blow oh is a hero and I'm not and I will be the hero exclamation mark these morons when this is over. I will be the hero that all sounds normal. Doesn't it you you couldn't screw up to it's pretty crazy but and a couple of other sort of interesting insights with the New York Times article that's cool not only did sort of trump and Giuliani sh the freezing of AIDS in Ukraine but also documents trump's outraged outrage that removal of the country's top prosecutor Yuri let Sankoh widely. I is believed in Ukraine to be corrupt who was Kinda wanted Giuliani's Powell's so I suggest having a having a diving into that later story that I was very keen to talk about is in Japan today which which we must now get to this is a I have to say the angle on the you know the life and times of the late President Jack Cheer that I- fallen was not expecting and I feel terrible that I failed to mention this in my monocle twenty four obituary of him. I I really yeah. I didn't see coming. We'll it really was just in this today. Yeah please do introduce the premise right so so this great story in Japan today online fine the headline Chirac who Japan moans Chirac sumo ultra-fine for many in Japan French statesman will not not be remembered for his opposition or support for European unity but for his deep love and respect of the sport of sumo he was a sumo megaphone on here actually insisted that the from Suma he learned everything he needed to know in life on a party. He wondered whether he could have made the grade. He said maybe if I'd started young he Musa in one thousand nine hundred ninety. I was told enough as for the weight well you can put on with time. Let's say you started young started eating cakes. I don't I mean it season absolutely extraordinary story because as you point out this is not merely the head of a foreign government visiting country and taking some vague passing interest because you have to do that when you visit a foreign country that will you out in front of their incomprehensible national sport. You have to sit there and watch yes. This is this is marvelous. I find genuinely very interesting. I was massively into went went much further. His interest in sumo apparently started in the seventy S A couple of highlights from this piece the French embassy in Tokyo while he was in office how to send him dispatches of the results of each day. So as soon as the session was through he also arranged with French broke Costa's to obtain the tapes of the matches before they went on air while he was mayor of Paris organized the first soon sumo tournament in in the city and he even named his dog Suma. Finally we do have to note that. His passion was not shared by one of his success Nicolas Sarkozy who is quoted here. I can't do a Frenchaccent which you need for this quote please if he would do the honors you can do the accidental not do the accent but it's a great lawn. It's I'll do the line without the accident the line from Sakai's easiest. How can anyone be fascinated by these battles between fat guys with slid down. Tells sumo wrestling is really not a sport for the intellectuals. maybe ALBERICI. Fiona Wilson would disagree with that. I she's a big fan of sumo so perhaps we'll be following this story page Reynolds. Thank you as always for joining us. You're listening to the briefing This is the briefing with me Andrew Miller and finally today regular listeners. We'll be accustomed adhering at around this time on a Friday a selection of Julius music in the hallways of Financial Augusta Pacheco's global countdown however phenomenon is on holiday and so here is some dubious music. I've chosen myself. The Australian state of Victoria is certainly unusual probably unique in observing two public mccollough days for sporting events one. The first Tuesday of November is Melbourne Cup Day in fantasy. The rest of the country pretty much takes the afternoon off for oh the rice as well the other the last Friday in September is grand final eve the day before the climactic match of the Australian football league eggs season for which more than one hundred thousand people will fill the Melbourne cricket ground to watch the Premiership decided the football. They're watching hiring is of course Australian Rules Football Australia's peculiar passion the code correctly described by one trillion prime minister Sir Robert Menzies as the the greatest winter game devised by mortal man the club's contesting the grand final this year Richmond from the inner suburbs of Melbourne founded in eighteen eighty five and greater western Sydney from the outer suburbs of Sydney who only joined the AFL in two thousand and twelve a creation of the league. Get spectacular expense with generous assistance to further the cause of Australian rules in territory traditionally dominated by rugby league so there there are many subtexts to Saturday but one of the Wieder is that this clash between the Tigers and the giants is also a contest of the two best. AFL Are you fill club songs. He's Richmond's yeah and here is greater western. Sydney's from in the club songs are curious quirk of the AFL. All eighteen clubs have won and they are braid and bellowed by fans in the stands and players in the dressing rooms in the event of victory. The League's older establishment teams have mostly borrowed their's from familiar tunes. Jillang's is the toreador song from bees as common law. They calling woods started life as the music whole standard goodbye. Dolly Gray in Carlton's stately anthem is the minstrel Choon Lily of Laguna it and the saints of killed a a serenade. The historically infrequent wins with an obvious choice in the canonical versions were recorded in the early one thousand nine hundred seventy s by choir of Melbourne jazz players wrangled by a record record company called fable the expansion of what was once the Victorian Football League to become the Australian football league during the one thousand nine hundred thousand nine hundred ninety s sought what new teams added to the competition and therefore the necessity of new songs in several regrettable instances original works were commissioned these all absolutely sucked and indeed suck still non worse than the non more eighty s abomination which phone fares the West Coast Eagles onto the field old goes greater western Sydney's splendid swaggering stump. It is the work of Harry Anger Solve Melbourne rock band the Cat Empire the no great football fan and understood what was marvelous about the original club songs an album is that blend of Macho Braggadocio and arch high camp into something that sounds like it might have welcomed Soviet tank divisions back from the battle of Kursk Greater Western. Sydney are a new club with few fans and little history. Richmond are an old club but one of the best supported in the country with a glorious heritage the two thousand nine hundred nine grand final this Saturday shapes as quite a game innovation Vatian versus tradition money versus passion Sydney versus Melbourne but whoever wins will have an appropriately rousing song to sing when the final final Siren's gone ah and that is all for today Richmond to win. I think by probably six or seven goals today's edition of the briefing was produced juice by Reese James and Daniel Beach Research by Baluchi and we'll Higginbotham studio manager well Steph Chungu. I'm Andrew Miller. Thanks for listening have a terrific weekend

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With an email to Ross at Ross Tucker Dot, com and that is Jacob win from Tripod bedding which we'll get into that in a second, but first and foremost Jacob is in Australia, and Jacob is a listener so Jacob Welcome to the show, your own with Rawson Steve. It's a pleasure to bay. It's actually really surreal. Highly because well today on a fan for many years. Staved kind of been an auto, and as mentioned on from the TRIPOD and way to a way clay NRO breakdown podcast, which is basically been inspired after years of listening to the even money podcast. Are So first of all, I got to ask this. It's eleven. Thirty am eastern time, which means it's eight thirty am in Vegas where Steve Is, which means it's what time wherever the heck you are in Australia right now. I'm coming to you from the sunshine. Tyson Australia one thirty I am. But I'll do it anytime of the die for you guys. Sunshine Coast in Australia so a, where is that by the way one thirty am? That's unbelievable, but where is the Sunshine Coast? Just an hour north of Brisbane, one of the main city sap in Queensland. Okay, so if you said Steve is kind of an idol of yours. Considering I have done a lot better than Steve. Two out of the last three years NFL betting M my like a super idol. Like how does that work? Well, I think it's true that when you guys palace combined, and you come up with the best bet that often those best bets records. Phenomenal and even this recent Jiachen personally sized. Thank you. Guys were all over the chiefs. Underperforming through the first few weeks for a lot of raisins, and I even industry on his dragon bookie got a decent bet on them at twelve to one just offer that Tennessee lost some and we to poss- onto about follow. Is that the chaser a good team to be on not only reinvent. Fun To. BE, backing! So, that's awesome and two more thoughts. I'm obviously joking. Steve should be your idol. Steve is the man and you are right. It does seem like and we've got the statistics on our best. Pets have been really really. We both done a good job overall throughout the show, but then when it's the best bet that's when we really nail but I gotTa give you Steve The credit for the chiefs. Even after mahomes got hurt, even after everything that went down. You stayed on the chief Steve The whole time. Yeah and the chiefs really were perfect storm where mahomes was banged up with the ankle, any reactivated that ankle injury and home losses to the and Houston, and then of course with the kneecap as well and then amazingly We referenced it the Game Against Tennessee where the ninety eight percent chance to win that game at the end of the game in Tennessee territory up five or their special teams unit, botched the field goal, and somehow they lost that game, and that really was a great example. Buying low after the chiefs lost their fourth game. So I'm curious Jacob. How did you hear about the podcast in the first place I'm always fascinated. There's a guy on the sunshine coast in Australia that listens to the even money podcast every. How did that happen? So many years ago, but definitely just from fascination in betting which a lot of Australians loved, it loved their bidding, and in that from an early age even having. Guardians put bets on Foamy long before I could turn is Hain. And then just really enjoy the sport of NFL went once. It was shine on TV in Australia. Waikato host Alex actually. He was a professional tennis player who then got a college degree to Boise Site Rod at the time. They had that Super College teams. He got into it as well. And I guess then I became a fan of podcast and just searching. You know NFL betting podcasts I. Think stumbled upon you guys and it was just like something upon Ghalib listen to ever since. Wow, that is really cool, so the one thing you said there is that. In Australia. You Got People placing bets in your name before you're eighteen. How does that work? I! Don't get anyone into trouble, but I mean you've got to be at least eighteen to this was even before. Really they will online bookmakers, so you had betting shop that someone walk into an place, a paper ticket and have been the one making the selections. Oh God it gotta gotTa gotta get Kinda like in high school when my buddies would get somebody to go in and buy beer for him at the beer store. Exactly the betting it on it. Okay, that makes sense all right so so you got in the NFL because of your your partner in Boise State when you got into the NFL. Well we both just kind of h really enjoyed. The sport loved watching it, and the great thing for NFL is it starts Rod Round Win Al full legs finish, so it just gives you that fix of that. You Know Contact Sport Anderson high-level sport to watch into bed on IVY USTRALIAN SAMA. And you guys literally started this podcast Tripod bedding, which is a national rugby league podcast. You literally started it because you listen to even money podcast and you want to do something similar for the National Rugby League. Yeah basically it was like h weekend. We would call each other and talk about teams. We were going to bet on and why and buys big fans of of money and couple other podcasts at that stage on. And we said there really is nothing like this in Australia. WHOA, maybe we should just record about. We really just recorded it for fun at first because we'd be sharing tips with mates and they kept on, we kept on winning luckily, but they kept on saying. How did you pick that team? Like? Why did you pick that because would often pick a tame that you wouldn't expect and that's kind of things that we've learned from Uganda. You Dino as the obvious and it just kind of it. Just kind of grew from there with friends sent it to other friends than we might vice with Piji and it's just continued to grow. Okay so then. That makes sense I. Get it. So I went to a Sydney waratahs game. When I was in Sydney. Is that Rugby League or Rugby Union? Rugby Union it does get confusing because the sport itself is Cold Rugby, league this is probably more popular in Australia but rugby union is more popular worldwide. That's the one with the Rugby World Cup. Out it I think it's crazy. It's not that big of a country Steve and they've got Australian rules football. They've got rugby league and they've got rugby Union. Isn't that kind of crazy Steve? It's a pretty large country. I gotTa Tell You when I look at internationally at the number of basketball teams in a country like France, it doesn't surprise me at all and by the way I'm getting a kick out of like some of the references to like like Brisbane like like Americans geographically are so hurting in terms of their knowledge, I would imagine less than five percent could find. Brisbane on and Australia math, but it is of course on the Far East Coast looks like a lovely town. So. Here's what I don't understand though. Jacob Twenty five million people in Australia. And you three essentially like football leagues, you know two different rugby leagues and then Aussie Rules which was at the AFL. Arl What is Ozzy rules now? You're Ozzy Rosa also known as the. Australian football league and I mean we even play soccer here and the team makes the World Cup every four years I. Guess the only way to explain it is people ask Sports Mad industraliazed. Alright. So let's start with what you've noticed. From Rugby League so far. In terms of. Coming off of Cova Nineteen, starting up a physical league like what how has Cova? Thousand nine hundred affected the competition this year as far as what you've seen. Well, the competition started in March were slightly concerned about code, but they went ahead. They got two rounds in. And then it just became too many concerns with spreading the Vars, and just and just around the country, so it had to get shot down, it was shut down for about weeks, and it's just resumed we've got. We've just gotten in three rounds in the last three weeks. So the play is basically we're in limbo for wildaid con, just having to sell fos alight trying from harm zoom meeting. They're tame similar to probably what a lot of the players on NFL rosters doing now and then I had a vote one month minicamp, and then got back into the Games and. Maybe one thing he did. Straightaway was teams that probably had better roster continuity did better hit the ground, running with the short disrupted preparation on and also teams that generally had more disciplined program, the plays that could be trusted left to their own devices and. The team like the New England patriots would come to mind way you. You would imagine that those players would be definitely making sure they're. They're still getting all their work in and getting all their preparation, and when I when I show up when they have to shop face to face. Steve that kind of backs up what we've talked about in terms of continuity being at a premium this year. Yeah absolutely so five NFL teams with brand, new coaches and five teams with new quarterbacks, and so that continuity of course, a concern and the Carolina Panthers certainly stand out with an unproven NFL new head, coach and Todd Rule Teddy Bridgewater comes in and the panthers, the least amount of continuity less than fifty percent of the snaps taken for returning. Starters are upset for returning players this year, so they would stand out as a team that doesn't has zero continuity versus or limited continuity versus other teams. So. What about are they playing in front of fans or empty stadiums, and how much typically of an advantage has home field advantage been in an rl, and what has it been so far after the virus? Yeah. Good question. It depends from tame detained because you have multiple teams that might be based in one city that may even share stadium, so there's not really a huge advantage when those teams play, because travel and the fans can get tickets if they want to go along, then might not be massively partisan crowd, but when travel is involved, we typically say harmful advantage in the rugby league is worth about two and a half points, and we haven't had fans at the game since I've returned three weeks. Weeks ago the talking about bringing fanzine I think maybe two or three thousand and I just last week they opened up the corporate suites, but we typically have that harmful advantage. Sorry, you've still got the advantage of not having to travel when you plant harm in that you're opponent does, but you daren't have that. Loud crowd that in regulate it makes a big difference and I'm sure it doesn't nfl as well just with the wire crowd can can energize a tame and also influenced critical referee decisions. That's interesting. Steve I hadn't thought about. Influencing critical referee decisions. Do you think that happens in the NFL Steve? I think it happens more in college basketball I. Don't think it'd happened much at all in the NFL. I think that you got professionals there that are are used to the crowd you know. I think you might see more penalties called on the road team, but I think that's more inspired by Wineman. You can relate to this Ross. Not Being with your the snap count and jumping off sides when crowds really loud right? Correct, that's by far the biggest advantage of the crowd noise. In the NFL. In my mind do. Are there similar principles. For the NFL that apply the NRL whether it's like the by weaker. You mentioned travel a little bit home. Underdogs situational spots things like that. Oh, absolutely so I think you from you know if you ever listen to our podcast bit of it like if we talk about the style of play or personnel, you're going to be a bit lost, but you would relate to a lot of the concepts that we look at H.. Waken actually think that the NRO down in Australia is probably years behind the sophistication of the NFL market. I think just because you have so many more people watching NFL somebody more smart. Smart people betting into it that these principles that used to make great money like whatever like a big double digit home, underdog or something it may still be slot value, but probably not evaluate it to be found in the rugby league. It's getting hotter and hotter debate every year. About for sure I mean a buys valuable rest. You know recency bias that people have of wanting to bet on what I saw last teams in a more motivated and others in certain wakes. So for short people wanting to bet more more overs than unders. And taking short favorites and things like that lots of the principles still apply. So speaking of principles applying. Have you taken anything from me or Steve or the even money podcast and used it in nfl bedding to your advantage. Fisher, I think. One of the things I learned I, I you think you know it all when you're watching sports betting on it, then you soon realise when you while you're losing. The the obvious outcome does not make money because as the obvious. There's a reason why they keep building those casinos in Vegas and I think I learned from you guys like that. Every every team does not play their best every week, and there's lots of things it happened in a game beyond the score, and so really is Ketu. Not overreacting to kind of look a little bit deeper and a lot of those principles you talked about like big motivation spots you being k. like because the be is a similar sport to NFL in the way that it's obviously a combination of skill and athleticism, but because of the physicality, if one tame is hungrier and more physical on the Diet I can bait a superior opponent. So Have, have guys have players been getting the virus at all? You said they've come back for three rounds. have any players gotten it and like? How were they handling that? If a guy does get it? Does get the virus. How long do they have to be out? They have like a special reserve list for guys that they can call up if somebody gets it. What's been the experience there so far? Yeah, this very laurie number of cases, so none of the players have caught it, but they are taking a lot of precautions I'm think every player is testing temperature before the turning up to training hd, and the has been players who've been scratched. Including the best player in the leg got scratched on the day of a game because he's temperature was higher than the. The threshold, so he didn't fly for the I'm not day and there was another player. He didn't catch the virus, but a he had a child at a school that had a case or just possible scare of a case, and the whole match was postponed twenty four hours till he could be cleared, and hey still had to quarantaine, so it has throwing extra. Take. Great precautions, but any player who obviously could have no injury flags could just be at an any given di really. Holy Cow. Did you say that because a players kid? had it or someone at a players, kids school had it that stay postponed the whole game twenty four hours. Yeah. That's right at the planet extra sides. Oh my Gosh Steve if they do that in America. With. What's going on with the virus right now? And when everybody's kids, go back to school. I mean I don't know if they'll ever play game. You know it's really remarkable to me. How the projections have changed on the cove? It and you know back in March. We looked at those tales, and how they're going to be trending back down towards zero by July, and this is It's a major concern about the return of sports in American. You know hopefully we'll be able to get everything up and running and all the major sports, but it's still you know certainly no certainty that that that's going to occur. Absolutely crazy what about? Anything else. JAKUB. In particular to co vid. That we should know before the NFL season anything I mean you, you gave us obviously some things about continuity and the more disciplined teams anything else specific. NFL betting advice that we can take based on what you've seen from. The covert response in the NRL. Well, maybe once the tames do stop playing again especially if they get less preseason games and shaw. MINICAMP prices camp. You might really be at a tell in the first couple of weeks. which teams are taking this very seriously, which teams are still very driven to perform well, which teams are looking for excuses and just? GonNa take the easy way out. You've already touched on a few things. You guys are going to be well aware of figuring out how to downgrade advantage for the loud stadiums, and just on that uncertainty with player personnel I. Guess You factor that in an with your betting I don't know if it means you're taking more underdogs, money line or you WanNa, hold off on betting until wrote before kick-off because you can be certain. Who's actually GONNA play in that game? God okay, and then what about in game betting do they have in game betting in the NFL? You can in game, fish, oil and I mean another great thing about the NRO. We've got sixteen teams, and so this eight games every wake, and none of them are on at the same time, so that attack from Thursday night through Sunday evening. Sorry, you can watch every game of one after the other. Which is great for? Fan, as you guys would just being able to watch, every game can really help. Give you great insight. Into into what these teams are all about, and you can bet in game and again it has similarities to NFL in that. Teams that get up big sometimes get conservative will team that down gets a bit more aggressive, and that can lead to comebacks, but it's also similar in that time of possession is important so I understand of course, offense and defense in the NFL and. Defense is tied if they're on the field for too long with rugby. League, it's the same players that are out there the whole game, but it is a lot more taxing defending compared to attacking with the football, so if you get a position disparity. Gets a point where it just becomes too much. The fatigue sets in you. Even get a bit of a give up factor in that way. You can get the school on blowing out. Steve, I know I've ashes before. What in in game betting is available in the US right now, and what if any do you do? Yeah becomes more and more prevalent each each and every year. You know I gotTA. Tell You I! Might ears perked up when I heard that the schedule is staggered, and the Games are at the same time, because frankly the best opportunities in game in the NFL Sunday night and Monday night and Thursday night football, because pretty much every book. Not every book, but the majority of the books are dealing with every time out in game wagering, and that really represents a great opportunity to Be Able to not only bet your opinions. But the difference between the lines Ross it would not be unusual that you might see team well, certainly total of a game being anywhere from thirty eight to thirty six at different books during a low scoring game. That is being dealt, and so those different numbers being dealt, gives the better great opportunity in live wagering right before the game kicks off the whole universe deal in that game. Say at exactly forty. Jacob. What what are you? What are you bet NFL like like? How much do you bet on the NFL compared to what you bet on the NRL Y- obviously listen US obviously bet the NFL, so take us through your. NFL betting a little bit. You have a team or is this strictly about betting? Well I actually have never really adopted an NFL team. I was a big. Denver Nuggets Fan in the NBA which I love as well then I thought I should really stick to one NFL team and support the Denver Broncos, and they won the super bowl that same year, and then I felt guilty to say. I've followed Dem's are really. Do just follow who I've been on. Like I said we don't have out football leagues on when the NFL is playing, so I do like to bet it but I do understand. I don't have the same age as I do with regular like I said before I think it's an even hotter sport to bait. I. Mean You guys do an amazing job? Bud Avenue? You guys obviously know as well. It's an incredibly hot sports debate. the people who are the very best in the world, only going to have a slot, you know few percentage point margins better than I. Guess You brought gave him point. So! There is an edge to get in the NFL that you don't have in the NRL me and Steve This podcast. We are the edge Jacob we are the edge. We're giving you the edge. Well I feel like you're gonNA. Get me up to fifty two point three percent just by listening, and then if I get on the correct best bets, and I can get a good line in Australia, and sometimes that could be an advantage to the USTRALIAN, bookies may not move as quickly on and not necessarily move every market as swiftly as they should. When something happens in the US side. They have been opportunities he's. Getting style numbers or or lagging numbers and especially tiling Uganda best bets. Okay so here's the last question Jacob. Let's say we've got people that want to want to watch something physical to watch a sport. They want to bet on it. How can they watch and RL in the United States, and how can they listen to your show to listen to who they should bet on? So, I have heard that Fox sports in America gets laced one. I'm awake, so people can check their local gods for show on there is a website called watch NRL dot com, which used when I was holiday in Europe, and that's really awesome you can. It's a small subscription per week, but you can access all the games and you can get them on demand. Sorry, that's the unfortunate thing. These games that take place in the evening and afternoon Australia early morning in the states, but if you can get it on demand, you can still enjoy it or even if you bet on it, and then just watch extended highlights, you might enjoy that. And to follow us just search Tripod with a Y. T. R. Y. D. NRL you. Find US on facebook. Our website got a podcast as well as I said in a similar style to even money with we h do iron handicapped? We come together and when we agree, that's when we have a best bet and starting out as well. We release power rankings and. And that's kind of out baseline for how we would handicap. A game again inspired boss Dave. Think has the best power writings anyone on the planet. NFL, and if you look at the difference in two teams, Powell writings. That's going to give you an idea of how we see the game and you can go from making your own assessments if you enjoy watching it. So, considering, you've taken the podcast format directly from us, and the power ratings directly from Steve. What is our kickback for your NRL bedding for your and our elwin winnings? What are we? What's the percentage that we get for every everything we've done for you guys over the years. Why tell you what I Slam pinching myself here right now to you I do I. You and how I give you a couple of tips for upcoming ran six the NFL. We can start with that if you one. Oh Man I I don't need that I'm just messing with you. I look look. At one thirty, a M Brisbane time or Brisbane like a lot of people think. They don't know it's Sydney. A lot of people think it's melborn around here. Jacob it's not it's Melvin see. Basically Australian expert. Did you hear that Melbourne? I? Know it's not melborn. It's Melvin so boom Melbourne Brisbane. Not Brisbane I got it. Man I'm on it Jacob. You're awesome. I love the accent always anytime we can get. An austere on the show, and it's just so cool to hear that you're Kinda. Replicating was doing here in the states down there with the NRL in Australia thanks so much for listening and thanks for coming on the show. My absolute pleasure guys appreciate your time. Thank you, guys. Another epic show in the books by the way. 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Thursday 25 June

Monocle 24: The Globalist

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Thursday 25 June

"You're listening to the globalist first broadcast on the twenty fifth of June, two thousand and twenty on twenty four, the globalist in association with UBS. Hello this is the globalist broadcasting to you. Live from London I'm Georgina Godwin on the show ahead. Singaporeans will go to the polls on July and in an extraordinary general election, due to the COVID nineteen pandemic, the widely anticipated announcement came earlier this afternoon as President Halley dissolved parliament and issued the writ of election. That's how the biggest story out of Singapore's reported yesterday on Straits times we'll. We'll get more analysis on this shock poll that even the prime minister's brother opposes then to Taiwan long regarded as a tinderbox for global conflict. The country's just made an announcement that will likely provoke. Beijing will ask how offering Hong Kong. Citizens Asylum will play in China plus a leading public health specialist tells us about the attempted British cover up of a report on the disproportionate rate of. Deaths from Corona virus and will mob browse with Chiffon to describe beat whilst channeling a DIVA AS Monaco's Eurovision correspondent. What it was struck at is how it actually reminded me of the Real Eurovision contest very proud of the research team for the film by Your version. Correspondent gives us his take on the net flix film of the event. We'll examine if corona was really just the last overdue nail in the coffin of the cruise industry, and with papers and business news to that's all ahead on the globalist live from London. First a look at what else is happening in the news, Australia's military is sending a thousand troops to Melbourne in an effort to help contain the coronavirus outbreak of a fears of a second wave Qantas will cut at least six thousand jobs as part of its plans to survive the pandemic, and in the US, the governor of New York new, Jersey and Connecticut of announced that visitors from states with high corona virus infection rates must self quarantine for fourteen days on arrival do stay tuned to Monte throughout the day for more on those stories, but first we begin in Singapore where the Prime Minister Lee Sin plunked. Plunked dissolved parliament late on Tuesday and announced plans to hold a snap election on July the tenth many months before they're ju- well. The moves raise concern as the city status still in the middle of the coronavirus, pandemic and smaller parties say that alongside the risk to the health of voters, the disease will make campaigning difficult lease people's action. Party AP has been in power uninterrupted since nineteen, fifty nine, and currently holds eighty. Three of the eighty nine seats Stephania Palmer is the F.. T. Singapore correspondent. She's on the line now. Stephanie. Thanks for joining us. Why has decided to do this? No, he didn't need to. So the prime minister said that essentially he reckons Singapore at the moment has reached a stable phase with regards to the corona virus We have to remember the earlier this year Singapore was praised for seemingly containing the virus, but then was hit with a severe outbreak amongst migrant worker dormitories, which propelled the number of patients to one of the highest in the region. Region, but since then numbers have been coming down, and the lockdown measures has started easing the the easing of these measures have been expanded also last week, so in light of this, he said this was a good moment to hold these elections also because they weren't sure whether the pandemic would be over a before. The term of this government must end next April. He also mentioned ops. It was necessary to hold elections in order to give the government basically a fresh mandate to talk tackled both followed from the coronavirus, which is hitting the economy here very hard at it also to deal with external problems and concerns such as the US presidential elections or the border clashes between India Indian China so what measures will be put in place to ensure that the vote can go ahead without sparking a second wave of infection. So poor has a sets basically that it will be implementing specific safety measures, including a temperature screening or giving voters recommended time slots in order to decrease the voter density up polls, or for instance, also increasing the number of polling stations to not have overcrowding butts. You know some critics, and especially as you mentioned opposition parties still believed that it is dangerous to hold an election up this moment in time. We're obviously There will be an enormous movement of people. And another element of. The plan to hold elections. During this pandemic is stops essentially physical election rallies will not be possible and as a response the Elections Department here, said thoughts. The candidates will be given more television airtime as a result, so they're all suggestions that pasta elections have been waited in the ruling. Party's favor is credible. Well there are several and Joe's and obviously opposition parties that argued that there are structural restrictions. thoughts basically puts the opposition to disadvantage, even during ordinary times, and these include for instance, the fact that the campaigning period is very very short. and there are quite high candidates registration fees It's also a people also sometimes point to the timing of elections. Essentially, the the president of Singapore may dissolve parliament at any time, basically before the end of the of parliament's five-year term on the advice of the prime. Minister so obviously if the ruling party A. B. Basically opposition argues are at an advantage when it comes to the timing of the elections and the announcement of the elections, so the prime minister is brother Lee in young says he's joined the newly founded progress Singapore Party now. The two men embroiled in a longstanding row. What's that all about? Yes so. Essentially Lisa Young, he's the prime minister's estranged. Brother joined the opposition party, however at the party did not disclose whether he would actually stand for elections, but this obviously creates a a lot of Ferrara here in Singapore because the two brothers as well as their sister leeway lean, have been locked into this family feud which I came became public in two thousand, sixteen and basically was triggered. By a dispute over the house of their father, liqun you was also a Singapore's founding, father and first prime minister, so this conflict essentially is once again brought to the surface amid these upcoming elections, so is there any possibility that the status quo will shift in the country is assured of a win, and and who will be leading the government going forward. So the current finance minister, who was also is also the deputy. Prime Minister has been promoted within the PAP to a very senior position. Pointing to the fact, thoughts with a PHP win. He is sort of seen as the likeliest person. To succeed to these young long, so that is figure out is seen as the likeliest person to take on the role if the PEOP- wins honestly, there is not a a lot of expectation for a massive turnaround in terms of the election results I think the general. Understanding or expectation is that the PCP is probably likelier to win but I do think that's the new PS. P parts especially with this. Of Leasing Young joining it's is really shaking up things ahead of this of votes, and definitely stirring up a lot of public debates on the island Stephania. Thanks very much indeed that Stephania Palmer the FTC's Singapore correspondent. The Democratic territory of Taiwan which China claims as its own has offered to eight citizens of Hong Kong who want to flee Beijing's increasingly authoritarian rule Taiwan will ease border restrictions and open an office to help people wanting to leave the Chinese route city. Isabel Hilton is editor of China dialogue and she joins me on the line now. good morning to you Isabelle An. Why is Taiwan offering to help Hong Kong? Is it a deliberate ploy to annoy China as it almost certainly will? Good Question I. Yes, although it's also more than that I, think there's also the genuine fellow feeling, and there has been a synergy between protests in Hong Kong purchase in Taiwan pretty much. Since the umbrella movement, the umbrella movement inspired to Simla. Demonstration favor of democracy in Taiwan and there's a great deal of sympathy and fellow feeling for what people in Hong Kong have been fighting for, so it's done both for internal political reasons, and certainly to send a message to Beijing that that at least somewhere, this idea of democracy in Greater China will be kept alive. So what are the mechanics of it? How will it be achieved? Well there's no asylum law so so they've created a special. Category for Hong Kong people, the office that will assist them will open on July. The first, which is a resonant date because that's the anniversary of the hand over of Hong Kong to China. And by then national security law is expected to be passed in Beijing the national security. Law is being rushed through the People's Congress without actually being published, so the details of the law which have been shown to selected delegates are not publicly available in Hong Kong and won't be until after the lowest published, so there's a great this a high level of anxiety around the anniversary date. Hence I. Think the timing in Taibbi, so they will. A financial assistance there. There's there's going to be a basic income for. For Hong Kong people plus. Assistance with a finding employment for fighting combination general relocation assistance provided by the government There's also some discussion of special schemes for those who wish to invest in Taiwan and for a special talent recruitment programs, so it's a fairly comprehensive assistance to migration. Taiwan's been very successful in controlling corona virus, but nevertheless boarders and allowing people in is a risky move. How did they hope to mitigate any possible damage to the health of the nation while I think that there is a Katie some caution of that and a two week quarantine period will be applied, so people will be able to go to Taiwan, but then we'll be quarantined under the restrictions. We know that many democracies around the world have been a pool that China's treatment of Hong Kong even whilst they do little over China's threats to Taiwan is this move by Taipei lightly to get support from Britain the EU and the US. Up Yes I think quiet support. Taiwan of course Britain, the EU and the US all acknowledge one the one China principle which. Recognizes that Taiwan is part of China's, but at the same time maintain representative offices, so it's this ambivalent ambiguous situation. vis-a-vis Hongkong. That when as and when China move to make life harder for Taiwan which it certainly will I think that the will be some gestures of support puzzlingly. The incoherence of the US policy is is reemerging in this crisis. Because when the national security was first announced, there was a strong reaction from Beijing. And a bill was introduced a to a modifiable. End, the special relationship that Hong Kong has with the United States which gives it certain privileges. However it! It's now reported that the white has has has blocked that bill for now that it's being. Held up by senator who proposed it at the White House request, so it is completely unclear what the United States or at least the administration is now thinking about Hong, Kong and Taiwan, but unfortunately that's rather rather characteristic of trump's approach. I think that as far as the EU and. Britain go! The EU made a pretty strong statement on Hong. Kong off to the bilateral meeting day with China and I I would expect him to support a asylum moves, which is effectively what these are! And Britain of course has offered Hong as. The the right to live in in this country. Made Limited offer, which is that holders of a certain kind of possible, which is not everyone in Hong Kong would be a would be considered for a permanent residents in in Britain, so there were quite a lot of kind of qualifications to that offer, and I think the key thing is that it doesn't really apply to anyone. Who didn't hold such passport or wasn't entitled to One before nine, hundred, ninety seven, and given the use of the bulk of Hong Kong's protesters, certain in the latter phase is quite likely that they would not be included in that category, and they are the most vulnerable at present, if the law comes into force or July first again without knowing what the conditions and and The text of the law is I think a lot of those young protesters who who've already been arrested in the past few months on various occasions, whose names are known whose activities fairly public have reason to be quite concerned, and they would not be eligible under the passport scheme that Britain's offered so tons of take-up. Do we have any idea of the amount of people that may wish to leave Hong Kong. I, think we honestly don't and You know it's very hard to predict. It's also although I'm sure that Beijing will make a lot of fuss about this move in some ways you can see that it will quite suit Beijing to have a protest. Leaders removed from Hong Kong after all their. If they regard them as a source of trouble, then then they could be quite happy to see them. Go but conversely. Conversely you either have been a lot of statements from Hong Kong protesters over the past few months of fighting on towards the end, and I feel very very strongly, so it's it's very difficult to know how many people will will actually take advantage of this offer. I think that they will feel great comforted to know that it's there when you say the end. What do you think and Wendy? Think that slightly to be? I again difficult to no wonder. The most worrying aspects of the law is is how the judges will will interpreted. or at least be allowed to interpretation eat a Hong Kong has prided itself on a system of off law, which is honest and independent and very very different from the mainland. And the suggestion that the chief executive will be allowed to assign judges. Two particular cases has been extremely worrying for for people in Hong Kong. Because that would mean that the chief executive who is clearly you know kind of does Beijing. Spitting could then choose a judge appointed judge to do Beijing's bidding, and that makes an enormous difference to how the law to how much effect the law has on Hong Kong and how it supplied and I guess what we wait to see is what will the protest movement? What tactics? So what options does the protest movement have I think that you know it's up against a very large force. And I think the result is greatly doubt in terms of WHO's likely to win I. Think the question to be considered is how much damage it will do to Hong. Kong in the process, and how many people were simply leave? Not just protesters, but businesses relocating to Singapore experts deciding that things out radio safe in Hong Kong as they were at that may welcome. We just don't know honestly, but I mean that would mean the end really. Really for Hong Kong as a world financial center would well, it would mean it's a highly competitive environment being a world financial center, so it certainly would help I mean that will take you know that would take a long time to play out, but certainly it would be. It might mock a kind of turning point the beginning if you like is if we were to look back, of declining and even now Singapore has has more. International Headquarters registered than a Hong Kong. That is a change Isabel finally. Taiwan's long been regarded as a very dangerous spark point for a conflict that would involve many players. Does this move offering the so-called asylum to Hong Kong as make any such wall more likely. I think that. If you're the Pi Ball Gaming? WHAT PL a wargames! Taiwa would have moved up the agenda, but it was always pretty much top of the list. Who Decides what happens? That's a political decision and I think that anyone looking at Taiwan will think. Even if we were willing to pay the cost of a military occupation of Taiwan, what would that occupation look like because this would not be without resistance and home and Taiwan is a very well armed, modern and efficient Democracy, which would certainly resist an occupation by the People's Republic, so it would have to be extremely serious situation. an existential threat, the party inside China perhaps something like that to make it worth it. I can't see out. I think slow. Strangulation is the route that Beijing definitely prefers to a violent takeover Isabel. Thank you very much. That's Isabel Hilton editor of China dialogue now still to come on the program, we'll be waving the rainbow flag and weeping to the emotional key changes as Monaco's Eurovision correspondent. What it was struck at is how it actually reminded me of the real. Eurovision contest very proud of the research team for the film. Fernando tells us all about the Eurovision film spoiler alert I think he liked it. This is the globalist. has over nine hundred investment analysts from over one hundred different countries. Over nine hundred of the sharpest moins freshest thinkers in the world of finance today. Find out how we can help you. CONTACT US AT UBS DOT COM. Earlier this month, the report by Public Health England came out which stated that there is clear evidence that covid nineteen does not affect all population groups, equally an analysis of survival among confirmed covid nineteen showed that people have Bangladeshi ethnicity at around twice the risk of death when compared to people of White British ethnicity people of Chinese, Indian Pakistani, Asian Caribbean and other black ethnicity had between ten and fifty percent higher risk of death when compared to white British. Well Dr Iky Amu- is a Nigerian public health, doctor and writer, several years of experience in public health in the UK and Nigeria. He teaches at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, Imperial College and Bristol University and joins me on the line now I kissed lovely to speak to you again. There was an outcry when this report was released on the sixteenth of June. Why was that? A! Thank you very much for having me again. Genetic Shame I can be in your race by leashes to do this time. The outcry was actually because. People had been expecting this report for quite a long time. It had been delayed. Since the very first. Indications that there might be a disproportionate effect of Kobe on people from black and Asian another ethic minority groups. The had been this consent about what was being done about it and there are suppose. For most people in government and public health England had always been. Well we're working on this report which is going to. Provide Ensemble provide accommodations and so when the report came out and ended up being largely. An epidemic logical analysis. Which should you know? This stuff is six just a mentioned which more or less confirmed what most people knew at and. Also had been published in various forms, not as comprehensively embarrassments beforehand those. Sense of disappointment because this was a what people were expecting especially as what had been delayed. Publication as well, but there was another report. One that initially we were told didn't exist. Tell us more. Yes I mean I think the whole story about this report I'm surprised that the media and haven't really sort of tried to get to the bottom of it and give us a big story because it's. been quite interesting for something from. Public Health England I being commissioned to write this report on ethnic minorities and other part of covid on then. Initially there. It was announced that Trevor Phillips Would leave this work. When there was an outcry from the public given that. Some members of the public given that. Triple flips was currently suspended or is currently suspended from the Liberal Party for making what were claimed to be Islamaphobia remax. Obviously, that didn't go well, and so we then got the information that prosser. Kevin Fenton widely respected, public health, physician or British. Jamaican heritage. was going to be leading it the report, and then we then got subsequent information that led by John Newton. Yvonne Doyle. My Public Health England, and then when the report came out, it was published as being having come from Procedure Newton. which was a surprise to many people given that? Kevin Fenton had actually done the level of work speaking to. Buck an ethnic minority groups across the country and individuals trying to capture and also look at the. Published literature around what these might be and have come up with a set of recommendations. And I. think that was the other reason why people were surprised when the sixteenth of June report came out because they were expecting to see this. Part of the work other the time people ask fall there. was going to come later in walk to be done by the equalities minister working with Public Health England. And went out. But not long after Rajabu Powell. Various professor. Social Science and Public Health. WHO's worked on? I raise. Raise the alarm, saying it's not true that there isn't such. A report under conditions are still being worked on because I. Reviewed a draft. Ready for publication about twenty four hours before. And Subsequently Public Health England then released this issue like. I jumped reporter additional part of missing there. which difficulty in in know the views of people and as recommendations as well? It a whole. Mystery around what actually happened? I want to get onto those recommendations in a minute, but first of all. Let's just break this down. Because obviously virus cannot be racist in and of itself, but the situations in which black and ethnic minority people find themselves clearly can. Can you tell us more about the relationship between ethnicity and health? We knew that. I think that's played out in relation to this whole issue of Kobe and its impact on minorities. We knew that. Can Affect Health through a range of ways. It's going to tell you to the genetic. Of certain ethnic groups so you have things like sickle cell anemia, which are common in certain groups, usually groups who has lived in me malaria and demonstrations Jones, but then you also have an ethnicity that affecting health through the mediation of other. Social Factors for instance if you have. Some diseases we know that associated with. Parcel check on the status I'm and. Conditions like got them. Of course you know. Those will be more permanent. and. In. Often because ethnic minority people tend to be represented in some of these Should Olympics logistics then they show was an outcomes as a result. And, of course you have the direct impact of racism which is being more. Studied more and more look at things like how what? I called microaggressions the little things that happen on a daily basis sometimes. Can perhaps contribute to things like high blood pressure and all bus not very well understood yet, but it's something. People are looking at as well. So how did the stakeholders in the second report? Deal with us, what what are their recommendations? Their motions to me. Yes, in Falah straightforward, ask and uncontroversial, which is partly why it's slightly mystery wide. was that difficult for for the talked about things like making sure that black and ethnic minority. Spot in the Health Service and Transport and other public facing jobs. Received the right equipment and materials that they needed in protection. Taking them. Out of jobs where they might be at great risk. It talked about looking at how the impact and how these people were treated at work, and whether that may have. The ability to complain about I'm afraid we have to leave it there very interesting and I hope that we'll speak to you again. about the connection between the high mortality rate in Nigerians in Britain and in Nigeria itself. Here's what else we keeping an eye on today. Australia's military's sending a thousand troops to Melbourne in an effort to help contain a coronavirus outbreak of a fears of a second wave. The state of Victoria has recorded almost one hundred and fifty new infections over the past weeks as new clusters have emerged in Melvin staying in Australia Qantas will cut at least six thousand jobs as part of its plans to survive the pandemic, another fifteen thousand employees will continue to be stood down without pay over the coming months in released to the Australian Stock Exchange. Qantas said around one hundred of its would be grounded for up to twelve months with some for longer. And in the US the governor of New York New Jersey and Connecticut of announced visitors from states with high corona virus infection rates must self quarantine for fourteen days on a rival so far the US has recorded more than two point three million cases of the virus, and over one hundred twenty thousand deaths. This is the globalist. Stay tuned. Now we've all known for a while that Netflix's making a eurovision film, or at least those of us that a slight eurovision obsessed have known. Eurovision Song contest the story of Fire Saga Is Finally Out Tomorrow Starring Will Ferrell and Rachel McAdams as the fictitious Icelandic. You Fire Saga whose main dream is to compete for Iceland at the contest. What did I hear Visions Song Contest, correspondent Phil have a listen and find out. No there was an eurovision song contest entry. Well sort off. That sounds part of the soundtrack of Eurovision Song contest the store your fire saga, the Netflix's production based on the contest, and that is out on Friday, the twenty sixth of June Oh, and did I tell you that it stars Will Ferrell and Rachel McAdams. Officially. Saga will be renting Iceland. Issue this year ain't absolutely. They're. Disgusting people but we have no choice. So, we're in. Up. The film is a delight Oh. Yes, it is incredibly silly, and we've a little too much toilet humor, but that's okay as Monaco, Eurovision, correspondent, what was struck at is how it actually reminded me of the Real Eurovision contest very proud of the research team for the film. Even the setting was the proper revision arena of last year. Show in Tel Aviv. Even though the competition in the film is setting. Edinburgh, don't ask me why. The level of camp is high as you can imagine in one scene, lots of former eurovision, winners and contestants start blasting out pop classics, searches, shares believe, and Madonna's Ray of light. The Fire Saga in the title is the name of a fictional Icelandic dual played by will farrow and Rachel McAdams both their characters you from a very small fishing village. The character of Pharaoh's dead is played by Pierce. Brosnan I mean if he did Mama Mia this seemed like a national transition to me. The film goes through the Fire Saga. Dreams of wanting to become the Icelandic eurovision entry and potentially win the trophy. US. Three. Will Farrow said in an interview. The inspiration for the film came back nine, thousand, hundred, ninety nine, when he visited Sweden to meet his wife's family. It was right at a time when Sweden won the contest. We've Charlotte Nuisance Classic. Take me to your heaven. I have a feeling revision. Fans will enjoy this sure. They make fun of your, but not as much as they thought they would. There's a level of respecting. Their personal highlight was during dishes of the Russian contestant played by Dan Stevens. It's like the Lion King but sex you. Do have to watch that guy. He is a sex player. They're beautiful boys. We ought to do that will never be separated Michelson something about other women. His. Andrew originally. The story of fire. Saga is the perfect viewing for Friday night, and it does include a giant hamster wheel, europap tunes, and some very special cameras. 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Is I know it is quite hard for you particularly at this hour, listen. We've been hearing in a headlines that Australia's military, sending a thousand troops to Melbourne in an effort to help contain a corona virus outbreak there of fears of second wave. Now this is something that's been widely reported there particularly in the age. The age is where we're starting, and they are going with this story now it's going to sound quite peculiar to listeners in countries which have been harder hit by this, this is. The decision to call out at least a thousand Australian Defence Force soldiers to Melbourne, because something like twenty or so new cases have been reported in Victoria. Which is obviously in the great scheme of things not deal, but Australia had been congratulating itself on more or less, having knocked this thing on the head, and so the recent appearance in Victoria. In recent days is a bit of a concern. It's not actually clear exactly what these thousand troops are actually going to do. I suspect that there's an amount of reassurance theater going on here it's. The Australian Defence Forces are a very highly regarded and very highly trusted institution in Australia and there's A. kind of reflex among politicians to sort of deployed them. As a as exactly that as a means of reassuring the public in semi, related news. I noticed that panic. Buying has resumed of some products in Australia or in Victoria. Particular so woolworth's an other big shops are having to reintroduce item limits. PAPS! The army's there to stop people panic buying. Would be able to be quite the comedown. Wouldn't if you'd sort of earnestly signed on to defend your country and protect its constitution, and you find yourself separating people fighting over toilet paper and. It's not that it's not that unlikely. Let's turn to ABC and elsewhere who are reporting on the first indigenous speaker of an Australian parliament. This is. In the context of recent protests and demonstrations. Had the local iterations in Australia. This is this is kind of a heartening story. The death of George. Floyd Minneapolis may twenty fifth did have resonances in stroke you? There is a persistent issue of indigenous people dying in police custody. And there were a lot of protests associated with that this is. That context, it's a nice story chantey. Pay It. She's going to become the speaker of the parliament of the northern territory. He was he will be the first indigenous speaker of in parliament. He's previously being the first openly gay indigenous parliamentarian Australia. He's predescessor has stepped down amid a corruption scandal, and it turns out that the order of succession. Being what is, he's new deputy. Speak Garioch. Kit is also an indigenous politician, so the northern territories parliament. Has a now has an indigenous speaker and deputy indigenous speaker both essentially place holders, because there's an election on August, twenty second, but. Yeah. Well at any time, this would be a heart story, but right now. especially it seems especially when. Andrew I'm very sad to say that actually we do have time to look at the full story. I can hear the disappointment in your voice. It's not that hard at the moment to Crowbar Gratuitous football story into the paper per view. This isn't that gratuitous because to go back to where we come in one of the people in Victoria. Who has tested positive for corona virus? As luck would have, it is common, McKenna who plays football for Essendon now? The Australian Football League, which is the top floor, destroyed enrolls. Competition has recently restarted after some weeks of not playing and playing in mostly. Mostly empty stadiums, and it's playing short and games, and with lots of restrictions about where teams can play in where they can count go, but what we have now is the Connor McCann mystery. Because he tested positive and then tested negative, and now nobody's terribly sure what actually happened and whether he had the oldest or not, and and this was a big deal. Essendon game at the weekend was cancelled abruptly when when he's, he's positive. Test was returned. And now no one sure what has happened but Melbourne being Melbourne and Melbourne being melvina belt football, this has now become a major story, their podcasts and features and investigative reporting going into exactly where he is spent every minute of the last two weeks. It's it's verging on self parody, but I'm quite enjoying it. And there's a related story from Northern Ireland. Well, there is brilliantly. This has gone international because Khanna McKenna is among a cohort of Gaelic football players who have gone to Australia and taken up the Australian game. He's from. County Tyrone Northern Ireland. So to the doubtless bafflement of Irish raiders, the newspapers are reporting. This is world the Irish. Among, those who have gone quite big on it and now let me do the Catis plug. Okay, if you're interested in Australian. You can buy COM which is. A Interesting Enough Angie Miller which tells the story of the Victorian football. League and its success success, the Australian football league a that's what I say is it is your usual ten percent opposed. Thank you. That was Monaco's Angie Miller and seriously is a very good book, Cobb. He brings his usual dry wit and his wonderful style to this book, which is out now. You're listening to the globalist. UPS is a global financial services firm with over one hundred fifty years of heritage. 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Cruise Lines International Association announced that all its members operating ocean going ships would extend the suspension until the middle of September well for more I'm joined by Rosie, spinks, journalist, covering tourism and the cruise industry for travel business publication, skift, a rosy, welcome back to Monaco twenty four now carnival would seem disproportionately affected because most of its cruises originate in the US. Where of course, the the virus levels is still high, but is this a crisis? That's been a long time coming. I would say no. When might have predicted that? It was specifically going to be a pandemic a respiratory virus that did this, but a lot of things that have really hurt the cruise lines i. think were underlying issues in the industry ahead of time I mean we you know. The CDC can track of for example norovirus outbreaks, and the way that does circulate on cruise ships it's. It's a closed environment. It is lots of people together for days days at a time, and the industry has really tried to argue that it's no different than a theater or a restaurant, but if you think about it I, mean it really is you? Don't go to theater for twelve days at a time, and so the risks of disease regulation are certainly high, and then in addition. The cruise industry. If you look at when things go wrong, which of course they do, that's not necessarily their fault. They generally keep sailing. They you know to keep their their investors happy. They have to keep those ships at sea, and so that kind of default reaction, in this case created a situation where. They found themselves sort of at the epicenter of this crisis early on. Because when it kicked off, they kept sailing. I mean I wonder how cruise lines have managed to get away with issues such as labour. Be Something we've seen suicides, health and safety, and as you say many previous outbreaks of disease for so long. Yeah. It's actually quite a simple answer. They're regulated like no other industry. In the world, the regulatory structure is is of course international maritime law, which was was not created. With the intent of regulating floating. Hotel Casinos with eight thousand people on them so almost all major cruise ships are not flagged in countries like the US or in Europe. They are flagging countries like Panama. Bermuda, the AMAS knows flag states They just don't have the regulatory might that would be necessary to ensure that you know. These massive companies are adhering to rules, and it also means that like you said you know the kinds of labor protections. We take you really basic stuff I having a weekend. Don't exist on a cruise ship so a cruise ship crew in normal times. They'll work. You know six nine month contracts. They'll work seven days a week and It's really it's really something that I think if the vast majority of cruise ship passengers understood was going on, they might they may. They may not feel a little bit different about why their holiday is is priced the way that it is. Just just finally before we go. Is this the end of cruising? Then? It's going to have to change fundamentally surely. I think it's the end of cruising as we knew it, there was a certain kind of I might even say Hubris from the cruise lines that that if you cover, there's you know they? They really thought there wasn't a lot that could forgive the Pun. Interrupt their smooth sailing and I think this has laid bare a lot of the more structural problems in the industry and I don't think the change will come from consumer demand, necessarily but I, but I don't think cruise lines will be back at it the same sort of sod and trajectory that they were before this happened Rosie. Springs thanks very much indeed. Well. It's time now to business with the financial analyst and broadcaster Good Morning to you Louise Good morning now. I don't know if you've been out and about recently, but yesterday I took a drive that should have taken me five minutes on the hottest day of the year I was in the car for forty because it was a traffic jam. It seems to me that the world all certainly Britain and London in particular has gone back about its business just like BC before corona. And, of course this is the fear now of a second wave and we're seeing that played out in the markets. So this was yesterday, so what we saw in America was that. A number of states have imposed a travelers from all the states to quarantine on arrival say the governors of New York New Jersey and Connecticut said to eight other states if People alive here. We're going to quarantine them. There's also Australia post its biggest daily, wise and infections as well in two months, so there's a Texas, apparently facing a massive outbreak according to its governor. So, this is what caused US stock markets to fall about two and a half over two and a half percent yesterday. And this is the concern now. At the same time we had the IMF worn its latest World Economic Outlook. The global GDP will be even worse than it predicted in May. It already said we're facing the biggest global slump since the Great Depression with a three percent contraction global GDP. Now it's saying it's going to be a five percent contraction in global GDP, if you want. The number is costing the global economy twelve and a half trillion dollars, which is a number so large. We can't even grab hold of how big it is now. At the moment we've got this massive government support around the world, and and these sort of the economic claps. Would you believe it is being cushioned by that, but the consequences of? Of Is! This huge rising global debt dwarfed by what we saw in the global financial crisis, and this is something you have to remember that the lockdowns causing a worse economic and Fiscal Impact Government finances impact than the global financial crisis, and that was pretty horrendous, and also the news. The news from companies and businesses just mounts up this morning. The Royal Mail you would think it would be doing well out of this crisis. Given everyone's been online shopping at boost their past business. No, no one sending letters. They've announced two thousand job cuts. Your Stress Airline Qantas this morning. Saying they're losing. They'd have to make redundant of their workforce. Six Thousand People Swiss-born yesterday again they do services. AIRPORTS HARDING THEY UK workforce BBC investigations into local councils, fifth of five of them are now saying they may go bankrupt. This just endless lists of five news if you start poking around now. France has said that it's going to extend governments support the furloughs game could last up to a couple of years there, so this is extraordinary two years now. macron says that we're going to extend the full I. Mean Not tells you one how worrying. It will be when. Businesses when people come a furlough and I think there was a survey yesterday that suggested twenty five percent of people coming furlough, a likely to be made redundant. That's two million people in the UK so a two year furlough scheme. What does that say about the furlough? Scheming how it's supporting people staying? In work, if you want to call that a the what's interesting about this is the Francis eased its restrictions not quite back down back to normal as you said, but it's it's. Social distancing and stuff, but even so it's ten percent the economy according to INSEE. Survey is still ten percent below its normal. Now you might get over ten percent. There's almost fantastic to thirty to forty percent below the normally in the harsh lockdown. Yes, but ten percent and economy operating at ten percent below normal is still a catastrophic economic collapse, and this is what we sort of. Forgetting about by the way a two year furloughs game will be breathtaking expensive Let's cross to the US now and have a look at this story. The US defense. Department says that twenty top Chinese firms including alway or either owned or backed by the Chinese military. So, this is a really interesting headline, and we talk about stock markets, fooling the other things bubbling in the background is the US and trade war, which we talked about on Tuesday but also the geopolitical tensions and we've got. Tensions between the US and Europe as well concerning a trade war, and concerning the people can travel to and from the US and the EU since is. There's a geopolitical tensions are bubbling along in the background when krona virus grabs attention, so the US Defense Department has has basically issued a report to congressional committees. that same twenty top Chinese firms, including hallway, the telecom equipment provider, either owned or backed by the Chinese military and this I imagine is to limit twelve ways involvement in intact ethnically. Mobile networks and putting their in our mobile networks. Now what they're saying is a couple of things first I all the saying well first of all Chinese Chinese companies. Still US tech well. The Russians stole US tech for decades, and it never helped them and Chinese China, stealing trade secrets in China stealing intellectual property. You know again. There's been a long history of that. The second thing they're saying is well the Chinese use civilian tech for military purposes, says America look at Boeing the reason why so many? Businesses have civilian and military bits because the technology works on both sides so i. don't think that's the real reason I mean. The underlying thing is here is if we put hallway tech in. Mobile Systems does that allow the Chinese government to spy on? Influential important people in in the West. Does it allow them to listen into phone calls? Or tracking the movements of important military personnel or or all important members of. M I five or the CIA in America and this report. We just don't know what would. It concludes yet, but I would argue it's yet more signs of the geopolitical tensions. If you look at pull. They very famously refused to hand over unlock codes to us. Authorities I can't imagine that defiance. You would see that defiance with Chinese tech companies towards Beijing Louise Thank. You very much. Indeed, that was Louis Kupa the and that thought today's program. Thanks to producers, Marcus Headley page rentals. To rebel and Daniel H researcher Charlie Film Court and our stadium, manager, nor hull after the headlines. There's more music on the way with Fernando. And between the two of US will keep you company until we had you ever to. 'em Elson on the briefing live at midday in London and the globalist of course returns at the same time tomorrow. Listen out for monocle reads late today went to celebrate pride months. My guest is Annika Harry the author of gender rebels, a fifty influential cross, stresses, impersonators, name, changes and game changes. Thank you for listening.

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So I have to I have to tell you got something funny. Right. So yes, I'm at the one hundred forty fifth Kentucky Derby, I'm sitting about what ten twelve feet away from the racing searchers at to land on you this evening. Nineteen horses. We'll take off in one of them will run their way into history. It's awesome to be here. Look there. Did you like that analysis there? American sporting institutions, in fact, transcend the sport itself, of course, the Super Bowl does that that is a national holiday at this point. I think the Indianapolis five hundred and the Daytona five hundred do that and auto racing certainly the masters does that in golf and unquestionably the Kentucky Derby does that in horse racing. I just feel so blessed to be here. Now, I gotta tell you something funny. All right. So this is the first time that we have done the Mardian McGee program from the Kentucky Derby, and my crack staff Kahlon chance Christine Kugler is my producer and Kahlons daughter Abigail. They're all three here. If you could see how feverishly they are working to try to make sure that this looks and sounds awesome. I said guys just talk freely. It's Mardian just run through the shot. We don't care go out on the race track. And take some laps. We'll have a big time. But I appreciate those guy. Getting up this early too to help us out. So that we can be complete and total idiots on the southeastern conference network and ESPN radio and yell. It looks good. And and for for those of you watch on television. We didn't Nicole van it's awesome horses running behind forces running behind you. And. Yeah, now, I'm totally impressed because no offense to you or me. But when we have the magical op had television device we do the best that we can. But typically we look like we're in. We're recording our own hostage video and I'm office. This looks like a television live shot. So there you go. That's that's that's fantastic. I'll be honest with you more often than not when we have the TV you pad when we set up our own shot. Right. And we're sitting on a couch in a random Marriott somewhere. We're probably will be on partly cloudy as we're trying to finagle all of that equipment. So it just doesn't work. Well, I was laughing. I was laughing with Chris when I showed up this morning because last week as I was trying desperately to set up my shot, my hostage shot. They were all watching it in the ESPN control room. How many people were in there? There's third the people in this room in screening watching try to sit this thing up. I've got Matt berry. Facetime me to make fun of me. So this is a much better scenario for us this morning. When I was for the Daytona five hundred and and had a live shot that I thought would look as good as what you have right there. And then the sun came up, and that I was being banished like to some to some crazy. Hey somewhere when that light blasted in there, but you should have the only people laughing at me. I'm sure there was a control room somewhere fan laughing. But there were also the catering crew while they were trying to stock the bar at five hundred club. And so yeah. But I'm telling you that. But that's not giving yourself enough credit? Yeah. There was an all time Marty and McGee moment at that time when you hit that button. Shane. Say the day, man. Yeah. It was. But I'm telling you it is a trip. I can't I hate it. I used to hate it when I was a producer. And I used to be TV producer own air talent would keep looking at the monitor and not looking at the camera. But I keep looking at the monitor is I'm looking at you in the horses are going by. And it's also. Yeah. I mean, so right over here. I guess if I'm sitting this way, and you guys are watching me it's over this shoulder. Could see the twin spires back there. Yeah. Yeah. Twin spires. I mean, again, look, it's just wild. But in this brief six week period. There are these must see transcendent sporting events from Augusta National to church hill down to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway that six weeks fan from the first of April until Memorial Day is absolutely wonderful. And you. You were the masters and now you're the hockey there. I'll be at the Indy five hundred and a few weeks and the pressure will be owned to try to figure out a shot that looks as good as that. Because that's a other than me. Like being part of a pit crew. I'm not sure I can beat that. In radio. Talking about what we're talking to. Oh, that's all right there sleep there on the way to get the doughnuts. And their their kids are beating them up in the backseat trying to get to the Dunkin donuts man, but I've learned so much this week here. There's been so much. That's changed from the time our planes landed here in Louisville on Wednesday to Saturday morning race day. We've had two horses scratching colluding the favourite Omaha beach favorite coming in. And that then meant that Mike Smith, the hall of fame jockey who was supposed to write Omaha beach looked like he might end up being riderless. He of course, wrote justified to the triple crown one year ago, and then I get here yesterday morning before dawn and Todd Pletcher, the two-time Kentucky Derby winning trainer who I've gotten to know. Really? Well now since me, a text and he's like, hey, man, Mike Smith's going to be on cutting humor. So now Mike's back in the race, and that's a substantial development. It's just there's been so much new. This year, and there's no clear cut favorite for those of you guys out there who are going to bet today. It's really a wide open race. It was a wide open race even with Omaha beach in the field. It's much more wider open or more wide, open, whatever's grammatically, correct, whatever now, and it's expected to be really sloppy. And that is another variable that plays into this. So I can't wait again six fifty this evening. It's going to be it's just fun to watch history. I mean, it's it's when when you know that you're watching history again, that's what these transcendent sporting events. Are. It's a moment in time that is historic and to get to be there in person. I mean, look. You and I have been so blessed to cover some of the most indelible sporting moments in the last twenty years and to be standing on the eighteenth. Green at Augusta National as Tiger Woods walked up eighteen and all of those thousands of people are chanting his name tiger tiger. And it's just it's a moment. You don't see at Augusta National. You don't see that type of raucous reaction was so fulfilling and to see justify win the triple crown last year was completely insane. In my first year covering horse race, no bad as y'all can tell I just get man. It's just so exciting. I'm so passionate about it so sauce, and you and I talked about this before my favorite sporting events, all due respect to the big games that rotate towns and all my favorite sporting events or the the ones that belong to the town. And all those that you've list, really good point. I mean, listen the the masters in Augusta obviously the Qatar. Derby there in Louisville the the college World Series in Omaha which you know is a place near and during Mahara. I'll be there, you know, in less than two months and the Daytona five hundred the Indianapolis five hundred I love the town that owns the event, right? There's something about you that word indelible that you love that. I love when you use it the that. That's the perfect word because share. Even use it. Right. However, you use it as how I use it. Because that's how learned it. So that's a, you know, I'm not sure if I'm not sure if putting together my personal lexicon of language, by way of how learned it through Marty. I should go about that. So we're talking about a bucket list events. We're talking about events that are owned by the town. And and I got a question for you. When Martin McGee returns Marty I wanna know if you had a horse out there. What would you name it? Because most fascinating to me. All right. Hey, by the way, get triple action protection for optimal engine of having call in was shell v power, Johnny call in and tell us gasoline, and you can call in eight seven to nine seven seven six eight eight say ESPN Martin McGee on SEC network and ESPN radio Marti's got dirt flying into his hair. He's that close to the track Churchill Downs. Sometimes Saturday morning comes quicker than expected. No. I wrote dynamics est. But I do believe that twelve times two is twenty more from boys. Mardian McGee coming up. They always told will he was too short to play basketball. But will never listen. We'll let his work ethic. Do the talking for him. Always in the gym always running drills will new where there was a will. There was a way and he was will. But then. After a second child was born. He realized the pros were all way better than him. So we'll gave up and buried his high tops in a tearful ceremony. But one day he heard that gyco could save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch, which was awesome. And we're back smarter. Mcgee on ESPN radio. SEC network presented by progressive insurance. All guests. Maybe Kenny Mayne will join us via the shell Pennzoil performance on it. And you can you could tweet us one eight hundred flowers dot com Twitter feed and give us a call eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six eight eight say ESPN, what would you name your horse? If you are rich than we get our tweeter back from the Russians know, you still have yours now have mine I've given up I thought maybe I thought maybe our Twitter fuel be released by the Russians after the mullahs report came out, but it didn't have hey, by the way Marty. Now, man, we're brought a big Trump caller. Nice. I'm here all day. All day more. This is important. We're brought to you by ageless male tonight. The ridiculously fast acting metric oxide booster that won't go unnoticed. Rush to WalMart to get ageless male tonight. The the studio gets entirely too worked up when we thought out some as the smell tonight. What's, hey, listen, it's easy to get worked up when you're talking about angels mail tonight. So. So you can't so radio. Can't see it, obviously. But Marty is you're you're up on the rail son at the Churchill Downs, you left the chair. You're are we on hand held now, we'll TV where are you? Well, when we have when we have professional camera. We so as you guys on on the southeastern conference network can see we're we're ten feet or so ten twelve feet away from the racetrack supposes are going through. I'm just going to call it practice. Yeah. No. That's not the proper term Chris's over here. Let their training right now. But I'm a call it practice because ninety nine percent of the people listening don't understand all the vernacular. But it's just so amazing to watch the horses work and to watch the jockeys worked the horses. I was saying this yesterday to one of the cruise that was here and asked me to chat with them for a few minutes on camera that until you're immersed in and McGee you will relate to this. So well, and so will you guys listening and watching until you actually attend an event until you're immersed in that event, you truly cannot respect the wonder of that event, and it is wonderful to watch these animals work. And then when you get to know it's also like this to Ryan, you'll understand this very well. Well, when you actually know the people doing it and you're engaged in them. And you learn a little more about their lives in the things that make them tick and what they're passionate about. And why you're even more invested? And that's the way I feel at this point about this event, and the people in it I mean, so we're sitting here yesterday in this very tent where we all right now. And it was pouring rain. Just just pouring. Should I use the word deluge? We're gonna lose. It was a it was a delusion Kentucky. In Bob, Baffert stuff. I mean, he he has won five Kentucky Derby, he's won two triple crowns. He won the triple crown last year with justify and as I said earlier jockey, Mike Smith, and he stops by here, and we had a ten eight ten twelve minute conversation about things, and this is such an interesting dynamic to me he has been so successful. He has won this race. So many times in fact, if he wins today he will tie the all-time record of six Kentucky Derby wins for China. He says to us that at this point, the expectation on him is so great that the sensation of victory is no longer overwhelming joy or just overwhelming joy it is relief. He's relieved to have made his way through the week and one and to me that's a little bit sad. I mean, there's some sadness in that. Because this is one of those all time career defining. Events that if you win it, it should just be completely euphoric, and certainly it is to a degree. But it's also that sense of relief. So that's crazy. Well, it reminds reminds me of like saving, right? It reminds me of curve smart. It reminds me of these coaches that we talked to all the time about as soon as the game is over with. And I mean, even Dabo Swinney after after close on the championship, you know, talking to clay Helton about this at USC, and he's talking about Davos, a friend of his and tell my menu learn a lesson right gallons and Astra championship, and he gives we're going to really enjoy this tonight tomorrow morning. I'll be on the telephone tomorrow morning. We'll be at work tomorrow morning. We'll be like Friday night lights. We'll be taking names off the board and put the new names up. It's just, you know, do you give yourself a chance to enjoy it? So, yeah, I'm with you that sets is so impressive. And this is d weekend all all due respect to the other two. Triple crown of is. This is the Kentucky. This is their entire year is built up and cycled toward. This Saturday, and you want them to enjoy it. But it doesn't sound like that sound like you do relief is not the word that I would want to hear from somebody. Who's won the race? You give me that. Yeah. I haven't even considered this dynamic of the psychology of that until right now so much of it is contextual. Because if you think you're talking about dab. Oh, you're talking about saving. You're talking about these guys that have a roster full of five stars. Right. Right. And and and so with all that talent. I think about shift ski right now as you as you were speaking there started thinking about coach Kane he had two of the top three picks coming up in the draft. He had three of the top ten or so depending on where came reddish ends up in the draft. And so you look at it, and you go, okay. I'm expected to do this. There's an expectation here that we make it to the final four that we win the national championship because we have this anomaly of a roster with all of these tremendous transcendent talents. And then it's I guess it's either all or nothing it's that type of prospect and every single year. That's the prospect here in. Yeah. Maybe maybe with aids to Bob Baffert has that famous gray hair, Roswell, Roger pins. But yeah. But I really think about maybe it comes with age too. Which is you know, in the back of your mind that you'll only got so many more chances. Right. You only got you. If you Mike Cesky, you know, you're at that point in your life where the clock is ticking up sticking down. And so how many more times do we get this opportunity? How many more times we'll have a roster like this? How many times will I have a horse that I know might be the perfect horse today. It's. We're getting we're getting exit existential is that a lot of run out of that one. Is that the right word exit egg? Yeah, Travis having had a movie in about nineteen Eighty-four existential at we're looking little troll looking guy who came from another planet. Yeah. The existential. Hey, Travis how many sound effects did you down low for today's show? We're currently setting up four, but I found a video on YouTube as ten hours of four sound. So we're good to go boys. We'll be we'll we'll have enough for all day long. We can hold an interview with horse sounds if we want to later today, the best thing I seen today bliss from the TV side is watching Travis completely laugh hysterically every time. He plays a horse sound. I'm like a five year old. Travis has found his calling. Travis can entertain himself. Tell we start calling him nee. Oh that was good that was down. And by the way, I can. Schumacher. Does that that doesn't really how much time before break somebody the four we saw discussing. No, we should not. Okay. We're not going to start discussing hoarseness. We have managed to to crash all the way into another break. However, you can call us eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six eight eight eight say ESPN, we got caller is on hold please stay there. We're asking if you had a horse in the Kentucky Derby, if you suddenly had some money don't want out there. What would you name it and also bucket list sporting events? And also did we use the word existential? Right. And also indelible is that even a word or do we make that up? And could you listen to ten hours? Also, what no matter how many times I hear that lady. Talk about moves foods. ESPN? Plus the new sports streaming service powered by ESPN provides fans exclusive access to live events and original programming for only four ninety nine a month. Download the ESPN app or visit ESPN dot com today. And we're back. Morning mcgeough spin radio in the SEC network. Give us a call eight seven to nine three seven seven six eight at eight say ESPN, by the way, it's time for straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless, mardi is at the Kentucky Derby, basically in the Kentucky Derby, he's owned the rail as they like to say, I don't even know what that means. I know forces people or we will say that all the time or horsing people, which I think is what I just said the said give us a call. And what did you just say? I don't know, man. I'm a foreign language. I town getting tweets though, on the Twitter machine. People saying that we're a little too like a wake like like, we're not partly cloudy enough. I guess they I can't decide if that's awesome or sad. They've gotten used to us sounding like, well, here's the thing. There's a reason the reason is because I am at work. Right. And I went to bed at eight thirty last night and probably fell asleep at nine o'clock and slipped until about five. So I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed as we say out in Appalachia. Did you know my daughter was in the school play last night? So I went to little mermaid junior. And so there, you know, as you can imagine the after party was off the chain. And no, but we got some pizza and went to bed. So Randy did you go out last night. Did you happen to see a cool eight John? I did not go out last night. So all three of you. Let me down. I was the only one it was a guys state. What did you knew Travis? We'll Travis got his Tito's party pack. So he probably had a. He's not wrong. Yeah. Shamas was like tweeting pictures, so how did you? So. So people just mailing you alcohol. Yeah. The not does found out that I was big fan of theirs and said here, we're going to send you a little goody box. I thought I was going to get like a hat a Cup. Thing. I got a model of Tatum. Hey tito's. I love man. I log on. Raining. Hey, Merlo people. Hey, hey, wineries, same name or low blackbox. Really, great wine. People juice box people send him or low. That's what you're saying. I don't say about Jack Daniels. Everybody knows about me and Jack van. Well, all all I can do is talk about Salem went to captain every single week. And that's the sound that goes I so with do it out there bucket list of vents, and what would you name your horse and the lions as they say are loaded. Kevin Texas is on the line. Kevin. Welcome Marty mcgeen. Hey, good morning guys. How are you doing good? But task but you didn't catch it. When you went to your break on the shell Pennzoil triple action. Oh, act gem. And also to put my bad San because I grew up outside of San Antonio up put my bets in retirement bark yesterday. So you talking about names maximum security because I liked the main and then of course, Mr Smith changing hills's on on cutting humor. And then I put a Tribeca in. And then I did a box try pet. So forty bucks went along way. And I'm gonna win a bunch of money today. Well. I think so I would I would agree with him. I I'm going to have some money on cutting humor for sure, but I really feel good about improbable. And let me tell you why. It's sports time America. Let's give you a little insight kiss calm down. We're going to talk sports for a moment. So improbable is one of Bob Baffert sources. Okay, and improbable has actually competed in the mode, not all these horses have in its very finicky thing when I was talking to Todd Pletcher on Thursday. We asked him how do you prepare for the mud, and he said, he basically basically said you can't these horses either like it or they don't, and you really don't know whether they like it until they're in. And so it just you don't know until the race gets here. Now improbable finished second to Omaha beach in the Arkansas, derby K, Omaha beach is no longer run. Being in the Kentucky, Derby improbable is. So that seems to be a bit of benefit for improbable. If the conditions are what we expect also test this Tacitus who a lot of people are high on here has also been season in the slum. So there you go. That's a for your all of you bet towers out there a little inside baseball. Yeah. You said Tacitus in the guys on in the studio started yellow like talking about ageless male yet. I'm not sure. I'm not sure what happened there a Dina Maryland's, all align like clothes. I was early south with Dana. Dana Maryland's online dean was up. Good morning and Julia show. Talking about alcohol how about hair doll. Oh. Yeah. Hair the dog. That's a great with that is a good one. Kitchen gravy from the south. Okay. Yeah. Business in gravy. Yeah. Biscuits are cornbread. That'd be a good one right core evidence cornbread me get horse's name right corn? Brave. It'd be an awesome force Nate you. You you. Misprint snow. It's Cohen bread. He can't wake up. You know, you can't get him to leave the barn. You know, like Cohn corn bread. We gotta run the Kentucky Derby, biscuits and gravy would be a fantastic night. No. Yeah. No. I like it would you name your horse do? That's a good question. My nickname in college was smiling. Do you know that? That's what my buddies. How the horsemen call me smile. Maybe call it Smilers revenge. I don't it sounded like they should get a pitcher go into Gano together. Oh, Chris house on the line. Chris. Welcome morning McGee. Hey, guys. I was getting sports analysis done. I was getting listening to the wrong show. Yeah. I know. I'm sorry. We don't worry. It's not going to last very long. We'll just talked about a horse named corn bread. That's that's we're we're slowly starting to work away off the rails. While now, I know you're listening to the right show. I listen to you guys every week Dr truck around the country. Thank you rely bucket. My bucket list. The is the Australian Football League grand final. Grand final. Yeah. Their version of the Super Bowl, you you've seen Australian football. If you watched ESPN back in the early eighties, and that's what I grew up. That's why I started watching it while I was like six years old absolutely have led the sport ever since. And my bucket by bucket list is their grand final their version of the Super Bowl every year. Okay. I like buckle at we'll get to the grandpa. I love that. That's the best part of Australia will slip all the officials doing the doing them to guns. Like, no one to score that I love that is the best. This is so much cooler than this. Yeah. Yeah. I was trying to talk my dad, and I would have enjoyed refereeing Georgia football more about I would have enjoyed refereeing Georgia football more if I could have gone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's all his years dad's fill judge is job. He stood on the goalpost on kicks. And he would he's got put his hands up. You try to talk about the doing Travis. And he didn't tell America your horse name. My horse. Name would be Bette. Davis is. Davison greg. Okay. Yeah. Man. That's a good one cume corns. You know what else? I just thought how about how about this? I we even have a song if our horse was named cornbread. We could we could even have our own conduct Kentucky, Derby, sewn. It would be a road through the desert on a horse named Cohen. Bree. Pay on like that. I got my people laughing like that. Yeah. We left that loud. That's what you need for horses as you need walkout music like in baseball. Right. You do that. And then and in for for Travis this horse Davis is that's a Kim member. Kim Kearns Bette Davis. Of course, other. Yeah. You have no idea the inside joke. The inside joke that just occurred on the morning McGee program is an all time inside joke. Travis and meet than officially always say that I'm the Garfunkel of Simon and Garfunkel mardi McGee and now it's official because you have an inside joke. Low producer. No shut out. That's cool. Well, don't don't forget. We we worked the masters together for eight days, and we will definitely clue you into what are inside joke is. Okay. So Arabian joke. Dan that we'll we'll we'll just do that. You know, he and I'll go we'll we'll come up with maybe Ryan versus Travis and learning. A box from her load. It will come up while their own inside jokes or or penile would out to ask Chris a quick question. Wasn't there a horse named hoof hearted? Okay. One of the greatest calls in the history of this sport was there was a horse named hoof hearted. And if you have. If you have not heard the call go to the YouTube and search it because the announcer goes who's hearted? Hearted cut down the stretch. They come hearted. It's very very funny. I think my horse name would be I need a nap. That's right. Brought me bus right talk wireless. Only at WalMart. Case you are just joining us. Marty is Marty's up on the rail. And who've hearted is is leading the Kentucky Derby early in. That guy from Texas is put down a super mega hoop of tr traffic that whatever he was talking about. And don't wear we'll get through the rest of the shows with some ages mile. It's more more of only. Site hearted, very fast. Mardian mcgee. Not your typical radiant thing about the original wiffle bat, we put tape on our that's legal at ho- said jobs county was leaving. No, worry more Mardian McGee next. Okay. Great. Oh my gosh. He did Bette Davis house. That's fantastic morning McGee only use being radio in the network for the past one hundred years generations of men have trusted Bora, Saul shaving cream to deliver a close, comfortable shave. You're looking good America. You're shaving barbasol and ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance making it easy to bundle your home for doing this and car-insurance. Awesome. Like martin. Mart was Dennis with TV. What's going on there? I'm looking at it. I can pay check this out. I have none of. No, no, no, don't worry about them. You know about it. So I have the funniest thing ever just happened. So I'm sitting here. We're in break, we're laughing Bette Davis eyes. And all of a sudden a handsome, gentlemen, walks right by our little tent, and then he quickly whipped back to our ten and goes, I'm Marty McGee. On the southeastern conference network watching right now and listening on ESPN radio. This is Marty. Mcgee daily racing forum. I'm just going to hand you the Mike, and I'm gonna let you just tell them about an awesome. It is to be mardi McGee. Well, of course, our Twitter handles get mixed up once in a while. I heard you gotta show on ESPN radio or ESPN TV. And I said, no that's Marty Smith and Ryan. This is my forty six straight Kentucky, Derby guy grew up here in Louisville. I've worked for the for the rating forward last twenty seven years and before that with the balls forty six in a row, I was not here for secretary. But I was here for the house here for the for the hundredth madea would let me go to as a freshman in high school. So yeah, Marty it's my second. I I'm not working. Okay. So what's your which one stands out the most forty six mardi? You're confusing attendance with being able to pick winners in the race. So I've picked maybe seven or eight of the winters before which is pretty good. If they pay enough so win win win is going to be a winning winner. Today. You're going with win win win absolute, okay? Why I've known as trainer long time. How about somebody other than Baffert? I love the way he closed in the blue grass stakes. He's a quality horses a fast horse. Let's go on with him. Okay. One more. Quick thing. Then I'll let you go. Do you real job? First of all, it's a fantastic tie s. So so when these people come up to you, and they say, hey, man, congratulations on that show. That's just that's just awesome. How how how many of them are drunk? I'd I wouldn't really know that mardi. But I tell you what. After today there's going to be a lot of those. I'm humbled. Thank you for stopping by this completely off the rails ridiculous program. Ladies and gentlemen. We're Mardian McGee. That's Marty McGee are brother, go do real job. Go back to your very successful life and stop hanging out with the in the slums of the Mardian McGee. Sued. How about that party McGee shows? Only on this program Marty I was only on this program. Pumping his fist in the air. How did that go down that new just walk up and say, hey, my name is Marty McGee. I'm not I'm not even kidding. You man. I'm sitting here are you can see our location and his location or he must have maybe been doing an interview beside us other shell a he walked right by our position. He looks in. And they're playing the national. Stop talking. Hold on just a minute. God bless United States of fantastic. So so Marty walks by and then I mean, just just out of frame just gone, and then he came right back. And he goes, I'm Marty McGee. How was that way? What most too good now? Hold on thing. He said Xiaowei. So just you know, how when the show started you're in hut. And now that we're well if you one minutes in your shell a was Marty McGee in chalet and Marty and McGee was in a hut. Yes. That's it. Marty McGee was in a chalet. Marty. An McGee is in a hut. Yeah. Don't get it. Don't get it. Twisted there, Jack. All right. Well. May the fourth. So Java the hut. That's what we'll call it the too. So I had now had to leave that I am I'm certain that at least ninety percent of the people that welcome to mardi mardi McGee and go. Hey may congrats on it show. You. Esi workman. That's awesome. Ninety percent of them. Are partly cloudy well at minimum, and we should have. I am kicking myself. Randy said, it we should ask to you know, he has a Twitter account. It's not Mark McGhee. Just like I've already checked rap. But I was gonna ask him is he the one that light locked down. Maybe he's the secret hacker that took over our Twitter account, and like shut it down because he was tired of people asking him about biscuits versus corn bread. And he's trying to break down the super mega trough facto on the whichever the call it at the aqueduct that is good. That's a horse race as I can. Have you ever been on a Disney? Cruise a half have airs one of the Disney cruise boats called the I don't know what it's called. But they have a big old slide goes all the way around the deck of the ship called the aqueduct now been on aqua duck not duct duck the Disney fantasy. I'll be I've been on there and the. Yeah, the oh, yeah. And by the way, you've mentioned earlier the infamous, call of the horse hoof hearted and Travis I think that the magic of ESPN radio you haven't now. Remote side. Colorado co at toasted dozen are the inside Questors jet who farted outside it's close who parted. Here's a question. As we say, see you later legged friends. That's a question left unanswered. That is Fant. Oh, man. The. I feel like we're like I feel like all the other radio show should call and ask us a thank us because I feel like we've kind of push the limits a little bit to see where everyone else can go. And that was that was the hoof hearted call brought to you by ageless male. It was going to say if we did not get fired last weekend. Where we the limits are expansive. Let's not forget the TV side, boys. I don't think the SEC network has this. Yes. Although the green Linnet I looked in. Our I looked in our studio today construction has begun on the on a little disappointed that Jordan Rogers, and Marcus spears, and Greg McElroy and fine bone Laura Rutledge, I'm kind of disappointed all those guys aren't on here to give us their opinion of hoof hearted. And my wife knows everything. My wife knows nothing. My wife knows everything. My wife knows nothing which is another famous. Call in case, you guys didn't know that Travis. Have you got that are you'll net thought what did you say? I was cutting some new audio for us. Listen travis. He just mentioned having that Tito's party pack out there. He just mentioned the the other call the my wife knows nothing. That's what I'm working on. Okay. All right. Well, then the apologize minute for your Callum impressive. He's working on it. So you got to go to work, right? You're going to tell you a quick story. Yeah. Let me just tell a quick story before I go less than a minute. So oh, listen a minute. Okay. I don't know if I can do this. So in the media room here, it's called the par lay. You should see the food line. The food line is an amazing undertaking. There's a lady there who does not play around. You get a big plate. You get a small plate and you only get one trip through. Yeah. And if you do oh you little plate. Yes. She goes. She goes one big plate one little plate one trip through. And I'm watching you. In the food line. Maybe we should have a horse called. Plate little plate plate little played one. I wanted y'all next week one trip through hey, the new ESPN app now with ESPN, plus baseball, hockey, soccer, and college football you on more. I hope so because with plus you get new films shows docks the new ESPN app. Download now and sign up for ESPN. Plus today.

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NBA ramps up and top contenders push back on asterisk talk

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NBA ramps up and top contenders push back on asterisk talk

"Glow this is Ben Golfer with the Washington Post. I, am joined on the other line by Michael. The POD, Pena now Michael It really felt like this week, the NBA started to mobilize. We got some beefcake photos of Zion Williamson flexing in the workout room, we got short video clips of Lebron James Shooting Jumpers at the Lakers practice facility. We saw various. NBA People take to zoom calls. In advance of potentially traveling to Orlando for the restart. Next week and then on top of all of that Michael. We got to read back up a very important conversation. That's right. The title Chase Conversation and Michael I'm not sure if every single person in the NBA has heard your asterisk take but. He sure seems like it I want to start with this email. Real quick from Nick in Switzerland and he says I really like your podcast and I listen to every single one of them, but I need to call you out on one thing I don't like that. You guys are always talking about this year's title, not counting or having an asterisk next next to it of course something we've never seen before, and hopefully will never see again, but it's the. The same for all teams, all players adding to this the playoffs will be played as always with best of seven series and that that's going to win. It all has to win. Those Sixteen Playoff Games to get the rings I think in the end. It doesn't matter that much to the players because they're competitors. Even if they're at Disneyworld, the team that wins, it will deserve it now. Mike Oh I know that you've been a very very pro asterisk. In the NBA, community and I hate to say it, but the powers that be the forces are aligning among the contending teams against you and with our buddy nick from Switzerland I'm going to give you a quick rundown. jaanus identical arraigning MVP. Leader of the Milwaukee Bucks on Wednesday said. This is going to be the toughest championship you could ever when the circumstances are really really tough right now. Whoever wants it more will be able to go out there and take it. Los Angeles Clippers coach Doc rivers, recounting a conversation with Adam. Silver the commissioner says the team that wins. This will deserve a gold star, not an asterisk Michael. Whoever comes out of this? It's going to come down to mental toughness. There's going to be so many things that are thrown at us that we don't even know yet and finally. Lakers coach Frank Vogel says our team has been through a lot this year. We've endured and come out strong. Each time we faced adversity, if were able to come through all of this that chief, the ultimate prize I think it deserves a quote unquote harder than ordinary asterisk. If you'RE GONNA, put any asterisk on it I don't think the circumstance weakens a title at all so Michael What you have to say for yourself. Everybody is against you. Are you still standing firm on the Asterisk Talk? We'll first of all when you say that there's an asterisk. It's not necessarily saying that something is more difficult or less difficult. It's just different and should be separate from every single other competition. That's taken place in the past, so by definition. Of course there's an asterisk. I also want to say you know. Like. What do you expect any of these people to actually say they're competing for the title like are they? GonNa. COME IN AND BE LIKE! Yeah, we're you know we're doing this for nothing when to collect a paycheck like I. of course, they're going to say that. This is the highest peak of competition in this is the most difficult thing, and they're hyping it up because it's a part of their job and promoting the game is part of what they need to do, but like ask Frank Vogel what he thinks if ad test positive for Covid Ripe, before game, five and tied second round series against the rockets or asked. If. He feels the same way after Brook Lopez test positive halfway through the Eastern Conference Finals I. Mean Even Right now. There is a blatant competitive disadvantage in that. Not every team is operating with the same runway. You have the Denver Nuggets. They just had their practice facility shutdown because several staff members tested positive. There's also no home court which we've discussed many times, and like it or not. It makes the situation unusual and. Therefore deserves an aspirin. I don't even know this is like a controversial. Take bed well, it's a controversial take because it's hilarious to watch everyone in the NBA screaming at you I'm I'm kind of kidding. I'm not the only person who's talk about the Astros. Of course, there's been others who've raised it I. Certainly think that your your point on differentiating between what exactly do we mean by? An asterisk is important. It's not you're not necessarily saying that. The winner would be invalidated, are you? You're just saying that we have to treat the winner differently because the entire circumstances with the long layoff and the competitive disadvantage, the uneven playing field that you're describing and everything else just warrants. Extra mention right an idea that. This one is extraordinary compared to every other one. That's happened before it. Does that sort of where you're coming down. Yeah, I mean I barely connect what is about to take place with what already took place from October? To March I think you when you take a layoff, the four plus month layoff, or whatever it is, that is longer than average off season like we talked about this in the last episode like Teams Change Chemistry is affected by the layoff. We don't know who's going to be out of shape. We don't know who's GonNa. Come Down with covid once they're inside the bubble I. I mean these are all variables that are just like they differentiate what is about to happen from every single postseason in NBA history I just like it might be more difficult, but it's just it's different. It deserves an asterisk. It'll never be historically remembered as all the other championships are it's it's like on steroids. The ninety nine season with the lockout, a little bit less to a lesser degree, but the two thousand eleven season with the lockout shortened season, and just how that affected. The run up to the to the ship, but like those things matter and we remember those seasons in those championships in the spurs I don't think a lot of people's eyes. Get the credit for that ninety nine title because the season was only fifty games long and some of the teams were you know that the older teams at a clear disadvantage running through the regular season I mean these are factors that we have to account for when we're talking historically about who wins the championship, and how important it is yeah I mean. mean. This is going to be remembered as the Orlando title that Disney title right. It's GonNa. Just that's going to be. Everyone references it there. There's really no way around that I'm curious though Michael, you know it's one of these speech and debate things, can you even if you disagree with the messages may be coming out from these guys. Can you at least respect their argumentation right like imagine the challenge that these teams are facing where you had five or six months of great chemistry, or you were building some momentum in March. Or you've got one of the best three players on the planet, so you feel like you're always going to be in that title and trying to rally the troops during a pandemic where some guys are just saying I'm not gonNA participate because either I don't feel it safe for you know for family reasons. While you're trying to recapture. Lightning in a bottle whatever you WANNA, call it all these months later. That's a significant leadership challenge, not only the coaches of GM's Maybe we mentioned earlier, but also for the star players that is a real mental tests, and it's also a test of chemistry, Camaraderie, interpersonal relationships and everything else I mean even if you're going down there as one of the favorites. You can't just assume you're going to pick back up where you left off on any of. Of this stuff so you can you at least respect where these guys are coming from Michael? In terms of you know trying to I would say reframe this Orlando experiment in a more positive or more competition oriented light to Kinda. Give their players subject to rally around to play for for. Do these arguments just kind of you know fall on deaf ears. You're like okay. Yeah, Goldstar sounds great guys. Good luck with the Gold Star. You know what I mean. Yeah I mean I'm half-and-half on it to be honest like I don't want to constantly come up crosses a wet blanket on the issue. I love the NBA so much and. Like it, saying that the NBA should not happen is like. So against my personal ethos. It's it's very weird to take that stance and to to say that you know for Vogel to use the word adversity when talking about playing basketball during a pandemic that is. Like increasingly dangerous. In this country, where cases new cases are setting records every single day like that's just objectively tone deaf, but I also understand that these are the cards that he is dealt as the head coach of that team like he needs to say what he needs to say I don't know if he necessarily believes those things, but. It's just a really awkward and uncomfortable position for these guys to be in. They have to make the most of it, and so from that perspective I do sympathize with them, but at the end of the day it is A. Very unusual dangerous scenario down there and. Again like I. I just don't even think it should be happening, but it is going to, so we have to kind of just assess an analyze it as it goes along for sure well I. Mean I hate to be? The Guy was like sports are prism of life. But at that same time. I think we can all agree. Making the best of a bad situation is really important in our daily lives right? There's a lot of things that we don't control. And this is a great reminder that you can be a one hundred million dollar basketball player. You can be basketball coach for twenty five years in the NBA and win a title. I mean you could be a very very high profile person within your old. You know one of the five best people at what you do in the entire world, and when it comes down to it. You know the rules are coming up from above you and you've either got to go along with them, or you've got to check out right and I think in this case you're seeing all the major figures within the NBA. These superstar level players Kinda rallying around the idea that they have to do this that they almost feel like it's an obligation I believe doc. Rivers was comparing it to a deployment. You know we're all going down to Orlando for three months. And, we don't know what's going to happen. We've got to be ready to adapt. It's just a tricky spot, and and so when you're in that situation of trying to make the best out of it. You know as leaders I. Mean Your teammates. Your other organizational employees are going to follow you. You have to strike the right message I thought for all three of these organizations to kind of come out the gate like they did and try to refocus and say. Hey, look you know this title does matter. This title is something that we really have wanted, and we want to kind of try to finish the job and make everybody realize there's GonNa. Be a million distractions and million serious situations between now and whenever a champion possibly gets crown, but that's sort of why they're. They're doing it. That's the motivating factor behind it I think that's really important. Because you know Michael, you've looked at this comeback from every angle since March right and the one that's always mattered to me like the strongest motivation understand. They're going to focus on television revenue and everything else the strongest factor to me personally somebody who cares about the sport like I know you do. Is this idea that there's been a champion crowned every year since nineteen forty seven I. That is a crazy amount of history. That's just sort of like weighing and if you have that spot. Empty in the record book. That's the only thing that's worse than having an Asterisk in the record book to me right so. That should be what drives these guys and I'm glad that that's how they feel you know because we understand. There's players who have serious mixed feelings. Right do I WANNA play. Do I not WanNa play if you've got leadership personalities within the League who had those same mixed feelings or expressing them? I think that this entire. Field trip or whatever you WANNA call it. would be undertaking just with a different mentality, right? It would be harder to kind of get buy in. So I guess that's where I come down I. Guess I'm giving them a little bit of salute for how forceful they were in in refocusing their efforts. Yeah and it is really good of you to kind of point out that all these teams are legitimate championship contenders. They all believe that they are positioned to win it all and. You know when the season was suspended, they were in that position, but then you also have someone like Brad Beal, who comes out and basically says even though he's one hundred percent healthy that he doesn't even know if he wants to go down because of for social justice reasons. And that kind of puts it in a different perspective and it. It's Kinda like why is I? Mean this goes back to the question of why are there twenty two teams and wire the wizards, even going down there, and if so it's just it's. It's a really. Complicated thing but I I. DO I do agree generally with you saying that. Just not crowning a champion at all would. It would just like. I mean it would be a total bummer. To be honest, I can simultaneously I feel I can simultaneously think that the season. Should not continue, but also I would be like borderline heartbroken that it didn't if that makes any sense, or it makes total sense. I mean there was a while there where I was waking up every single morning. Michael wondering is today. The day we get the press release that the NBA has cancelled right that the NBA has officially pulled the plug because we were just dragging and dragging, there was no movement. They their plans to try to restart. Coming together, and that was something that I was absolutely dreading into in a total denial about it took me a couple of weeks mentally and emotionally to even wrap my mind around the shutdown. You know I kept going to my television every night. Expecting Games are like thinking Oh. Is today a Lakers game day and it's like Oh yeah wait. We have pandemic. Right? Forgot about that. So. I I don't think we should underestimate the emotional hit that we would all feel if this winds up that they have to cancel. They have to pull the plug. I think that would be You know a real body blow for a lot of people, both within and outside the League, and I'm sure that that is weighing on decision makers as well. I mean they want to see this thing through as best they possibly can. Right Michael Enough, Astros Talk I think you made excellent points. I think the contenders are the record with their points. What I wanted to do today is a little bit of a rapid fire mailbag Michael because it's been awhile since we took questions from the open floor globe, and they email us open floor mail at gmail.com open floor, Male, Edgy Dot com, and frankly we just got a clear out our attic Michael. Michael. We got questions about Vince Carter. We got questions about All sorts of different subjects, covid related questions NBA comeback related questions, and so we're going to hop through as many of these as we can and I'm GonNa do my best job to not be as long winded as I sometimes can, and you're going to do a great job. Just being Michael Pino and we're going to get through here across all right. Ross writes in from Australia and he's given us another. Follow up on the Australian football league and what they're dealing with you know in terms of Cova down there, and he says I updated you guys on an afl player who tested positive for the virus mid round, and that postponed a game and massive red flags throughout the sport. We played another round of games without incident only. Only to have more schedule issues due to cases spiking my state of Victoria this then led to a northern state bubble, not allowing their team to travel to our state to play another state jumped in on that, and now the schedule is all over the place on top of that my favorite player steel side bottom broke protocol, and now faces a multiple game suspension aside from the quarantine. How does the NBA plan to police player Bubble Movement? And how will they hand down? Punishments Michael Take it away. What do you think? First of all steel side bottom like want to write his biography, but that's the greatest name for an athlete. I've ever seen in my whole life. He's got a promising second career. I won't tell you what industry but continued. So I mean. How does the Planet Police Player bubble moment? I think. We don't really know I mean. It's kind of like an honor system. We know that teams will have to kind of self report what their players do if they go out and break rules. So it's it's basically an honor system. And when it comes down to handing out punishments, I mean in that one, hundred, thirty, three or thirty I forget how many pages that rulebook was, but in it it says that some punishments might be a warnings. Some might be a little bit stricter than that all the way up to suspensions, but Like I, just think it's a very case by case, basis and I i. don't know if the NBA has any hard rule set in stone right now in terms of you know if coli, Leonard and Landry Shamet exact same break the exact same rule. I, don't I honestly don't think that they will be punished in the same way. I think that's fair to say so. It's a very subjective thing is my read on it so just to underscore that we don't have laid out punishments that gets you twenty five thousand dollar fine, and this gets you. One hundred thousand dollar fine gets you. You a five game suspension. We don't know that yet. Ross however I. do think this is a situation where Adam silver is trying to have it both ways a little bit one of his favourite talking points as Ben. All the players in the bubble are free to leave well. We know that's not entirely true. Because if you leave, you're going have to be subjected to an extended quarantine to get back in right so if you have to go away for an emergency, they're not gonNA prevent you from doing that, but you're not free to leave to go down to you know. A sports bar and watched some Australian football league. If you're an Orlando right I mean. You're going to be stuck there on the campus it. You're kind of prevented from going anywhere so i. do think that there's mixed messaging here. In terms of like what the freedom of movements going to be like for players, I'm anticipating a very secure environment down there. There's been some discussion about multiple layers of law enforcement. that. There's going to be at least some level of video surveillance because basically all Disney. Properties have that kind of baked into them. You Know I. Mean Any really Nice Hotel would. So at that point. You know if you've got a perimeter fences. If there's video surveillance, it's good to be trickier to to just like totally the burst the bubble. And I would expect that if you're going to go to all of that expense, and and there's been some reports that they're going to be spending. At least a one point five million dollars per day on this entire bubble environment You're going to be highly invested in prosecuting violators. Basically you know if someone breaks the rules. You're not going to be able to look the other way. You're going to have to take it seriously so. I actually think especially early on there will be few cases if any of people testing things now as it gets into the second month, does. Does cabin fever set in I? Mean I I could definitely see that possible, but I expect everyone to go down there and be like super duper vigilant in part, because the case counts in Orlando are just continuing to increase in and kind of You know preventing people. From having the motivation to want to go out who wants to go out in Orlando Right? Now if the case counselor that crazy Michael I did a story this week on the basketball tournament, and they're very one-million-dollar winner-takes-all event. That's actually hosting a bubble right now in Columbus Ohio They have a hotel completely locked down, completely booked out for themselves. All the players are within one hotel. Their security guards all over the lobby at every side entrance. Entrance signs everywhere telling the players where they can and cannot go I talked to a player who's inside the hotel? Who told me that he thought it would be very very difficult to sneak his girlfriend in like he was trying to come up with the plan, but like could it really think how would happen and so remember? That's an event where you know their prize. Money is about a million dollars and the NBA's event is a. Quote Unquote Prize. Money is billions of dollars right so you can imagine if you're able secure players to that degree. On that lower level steak, the NBA is going to have a very very secure environment. Yeah for sure I. I also think that the the opportunity cost here of suspending someone like Lebron James is greater than. Letting him get away with a role. If that makes any sense, so yeah, I just think I'm no. I'm being really cynical here, but. I don't think that it's going to be across the board. heartline punishments for these. Do you disagree well. Here's the thing they've talked about some exceptions here and there like if guys need to leave for. The birth of a child or a medical emergency or something like that so I could see some scenario where they have like accelerated in quarantine. Re entry you know where it's like okay. The superstar level player wants to like fly a helicopter to you know wherever and how the a weekend on the beach I mean. Are they going to be able to craft some sort of loophole scenario for the player to do that? I, guess. It's possible, but. At the same time you know real, quick Ben, like it says in the manual, if I'm not mistaken that players who have excused absences only need to quarantine for four days whereas players who lead the bubble and don't tell anybody, and then come back if they're caught day after quarantine for at least ten days, which I thought was pretty peculiar. Now maybe I'm I misread that or something, but I am pretty sure that's what I saw. That's just another kind of inconsistency and the whole fundamental purpose of quarantining. If you are outside the puzzle, right, that's what I was kind of getting out with the accelerated re entry I mean. It's tricky, because I guess if it's an excused absence. Maybe they're able to help you. travel in some particularly secure manner, so they feel like you're going to be at a less lesser risk. I. Don't know exactly what their argument would be for the shorter time period there, but you know that would be again. something that they're going to have to kind of not seeing. They're making it up as they go along, but I think there is an element to that at play here. They WANNA get everybody down there I make sure that they can you know safely? Run the Games, and then if some incidents do come up along, the way, just tried to address them case by case. As opposed to having this. List of rules and regulations that you're stuck to no matter what and some crazy situation comes up at you've never thought of. In terms of the superstar preferential treatment though. I mean there's always the temptation to say. Lebron's going to be treated differently but I. think just about everybody else. In the League is going to be held to a similar standard, the NBA has taken a very rigorous thoughtful approach to how it's set up the testing procedure how it's actually even created the bubble, you lookout, football and baseball. They have no concept of a bubble. Bubble yet all these months later. And you know baseball's plans as we're going to try to test our way out of it, that's never going to work right. So I think that the NBA gets the science part better than these other leagues have shown that they do and the science part demands that you limit all outside contact. The whole thing goes up in smoke so. I'm a little bit less cynical than you are on that one, and I, also think by the way that the NBA superstars have the most to lose by breaking the bubble because they have the most money on the line, they have the most legacy implications. And everything else all right. We are doing a terrible job of making this rapid fire next question. Ryan says first off I'm just wondering. If ben is okay, he's been giving the raptors a lot of love lately. Especially, in terms of which teams will perform well in the Disney bubble. Perhaps he's been stuck indoors too long. Ryan you got me I've gone completely nuts here. you know staying at home for the last four months. It's turned me into a Toronto Termite. I do not know what's happening. Ryan continues. I keep hearing the argument that testing positive for the coronavirus is just like an injury and injuries happen Ryan says well. No, this isn't Kevin Durant tearing his Achilles. Can you pass Achilles tear onto your teammate? Can a hamstring pull spread through a locker room can sprained ankle threaten the lives of a player and his family members or cause long term health effects. I'm just wondering where you guys stand on this whole idea that contracting cove. Cove is just like an injury argument, so Michael I would just clarify I. Think people are mostly saying it's just like an injury in terms of how the NBA would deal with the recovery time line right like players would just sort of be set aside for two weeks similar to this idea of how much time you might miss with a really badly sprained ankle, and then you would be able to rejoin your team after that fact. I, hope. People aren't equating. This virus to an injury. What you think! Think it. This is kind of tied to the whole. Astra's discussion that we had at the beginning of the episode I mean basketball injuries are caused by playing basketball running jumping boxing out setting screens participating in a context sport. covid nineteen has nothing to do with basketball. It's a deadly contagious disease. That's easily contract. Believe if you take a precautionary measures. So I mean as as the questioner Ryan said like basically like if a player test positive because a Disney worker has it and sneezes all over there rumor, or or they contracted, and some other natural way while not playing basketball. That's not even close to the same thing as framing an ankle, and I don't think the two should equate in any sense. I'm with you one hundred percent. It's a great point. And I also think ethically. We're talking about the scope of what this thing could do, and the fact that we don't know what it could do. We should definitely be very careful to kind of treat. This thing differently is interesting debate. We actually got into in our newsroom a couple of days ago at the Post Michael because. the nets had a bunch of players, test, positive, right and the natural. Inclination as a writer is to say well, what are the key impacts of that a positive test? For example, if three nets players all strain their hamstrings, the first thing that we would do is say wow, the wizards have a better chance of making the playoffs now right and so I floated this to our editors and I was like is a headline like nets without five players in Orlando opens you know door for wizards to make the playoffs, and they were all rightfully horrified right? They're just saying like dude like. Don't connect those dots. What are you talking about? And I and I stopped to think about it, and it's. You know it. It feels terrible to write it. In the NBA is the one who bears a lot of the moral responsibility here because they're putting their tournament on, you know during this pandemic and if you do have. Players from team may not available to play. It absolutely necessarily helps players from team B and so I do think that we have to find the right way to talk about it We don't want to connect those things as directly especially you know when when we're taking into consideration, the long term impacts of what this thing could do. And just the uncertainty around it, and the life and death stakes. Frankly too. So I think we're. We landed was stick to the facts. Try Not to engage too much into the analysis of. Winners and losers of the virus, and also make sure that every story that we ride every time that we kinda talk about this. Disease were reminding people that it's killed more than one hundred twenty five thousand people right now, and there's been more than two million cases around the country. I mean some of that stuff. It's obvious I think we've all kind of internalized the scope of the pandemic, but at the same time if you're just talking about some random players to a positive test, and it's getting tweeted out without context on twitter. You do wind up. Losing very important stakes in background from that conversation so. Ryan, I'm there with you. It's not the same thing as an injury. The only way that we've sort of equated to is sort of how the NBA will treat. A player who does test positive in terms of being allowed to reenter games, and and there will be that two week timeframe where he's gotta be sideline so I do think on that one. We're kind of all on the same page here all right? We've got a question from Steph. And he writes a few episodes back. You're giving Nikolay Yokich a hard time for not wearing a mask. It felt a little wrong to me and I've been trying to figure out how to phrase my question I sure don't want to make cove in nineteen seem less important. Important and Worrisome Bennett is I live in Denmark where masks are not a part of the guidelines in never had been. We have after a couple of months of locked down the viruses under some control everything, including schools are basically open. We have always had more focus on hand hygiene than mass here in Denmark He continues every basketball podcast. I listened to are asking their audience to wear masks I. do believe it is necessary and helpful with the situation the United States, but the world is bigger, and there are places that have had success without masks. Any points out that the number of deaths per million. In Where Yokich was when he tested positive, is much lower than is in the United States and he goes on to say. Shouldn't celebrities be judged by the guidelines of where they live had Yokich ben in the United States, he probably would be wearing a mask. Does he deserve to be cut a little slack from you guys and he signs off Michael by saying I. Don't WanNa. Come off, someone who's not taking the virus. seriously. I think you just. You need to approach this from a different perspective. Maybe, I just felt like you. Guys were also calling me out since I'm not wearing a mask in public, even though I'm following every other guideline. Has Put, forth all right Michael. I'm the one who was really calling Yokich out strong, but I'm going to let you go first here. Are you calling Steph and out. Should he be wearing a mask? No matter what. Do we need to walk back any of the criticism of Yokich or are you going to force me to answer from my own words? No I mean. You have to kind of factor in. Like the what are the travel restrictions in Denmark you're comparing this? The the United States which is obviously much a much higher population. It has people who are traveling within the country. People who've come in from other countries I. Don't know what what the travel restrictions are there. Denmark and I don't know what the lockdown What the procedures were early on there that have kind of mitigated the threat, but I will say for Yokich. And for anyone else, who is like knew that they were going to be coming to the United States or or knew that they would be traveling imminently to not wear a mask. Is just irresponsible and I don't think that wearing a mask is cultural. It's not bounder dictated by any nation's borders. It's a safety measure for every human being with a nose mouth, and so to not wear one is just to objectively increased risk for yourself. Those around you so that's my kind of stance there. I think that you do deserve criticism if you are not wearing a mask regardless of where you are. I thought Steph raised some good points, but Stephan I apologize for nothing I backed down, not one inch. It wasn't just the lack of the mask. It was the lack of social distancing in the gym. It was the fact that he basically took a non essential travel trip halfway across the world weeks before he was set to compete with the Denver, nuggets here in the United States you have to take into account, all of the factors of what his behavior was how he was presenting himself how he was acting, but then also how he was being presented in public there I to me. There's just a higher burden if you are a celebrity or if you're a public figure you have. Have to be held to a higher standard, and I think a lot of those choices that I'm describing were all questionable regardless of what the number was a in Serbia and the bottom line is it clearly wasn't safe to be acting how they acted because there was a major outbreak, not only with him, but also with those other professional athletes had they been following things as carefully as it sounds like you're following things in mark, I don't think all those guys test positive Stephan, so you're actually holding yourself to a much higher standard than Yokich was holding himself to and I think. An important piece of context here too, and I want to get this across to all of our global listeners. And this is very important, so stick with me. Word by word here. The United States right now is an absolute disaster period I'm GonNa say it again. The United States right now is an absolute disaster. We're hitting peak numbers in terms of total cases where seeing spikes in state after state after state where seeing local governments refusing to enact the best practices that Denmark has taken for granted the way they don't WanNa roll things back. Nobody wants to have to be the guy who backed down and you know to admit that the viruses winning. We have no courted coordinated national leadership on this as Doc rivers pointed out. In his press conference yesterday were hurting in a really really big time way so some of this criticism that was coming out for me staff in a week or two ago. It's visceral man. It's just knowing that were in a real fight here and every bit helps, and that we need allies and that we've got high profile basketball players who, in some cases have been amazing leaders on this issue going back to March and we've got some others who are a little bit, and could maybe do better, and so that's that's all I would say. Keep in mind. The Americans perspective here when you're over there in Denmark. You guys have life so good right now and we're struggling and there's no. No end in sight and the frustration and the impatience. is really building over here. You know I think that people are starting to look out ahead and saying if we haven't made any real progress if we're still hitting record levels after four or five months of this, how long are we going to be stuck dealing with this? As a part of our day to day life and right now that time line just gets longer and longer and longer, and it's very demoralizing, and in some cases I think it leads to anger, grief frustration all of the above, and that's what we're dealing with Steph and still be glad that you live in a country that actually knows what it's doing all right. I'm a lighter subject Michael. We're going to pivot straight to Vince Carter's legacy. Jake Jake Rights. How could you guys discuss half man half amazing without mentioning his time with Tracy McGrady in Toronto. That was possibly the greatest. What if we can do? Besides maybe Tracy McGrady and grant hill in Orlando plus they were cousins. How cool is that Tracy? McGrady played three years at Toronto two of them with Vince, but they never he never started more than half his games, and only averaged about fifteen points final year the raptors gave him away to the magic, and in doing so they threw away the best years of Vincent career. Say That Tracy McGrady follows this trajectory and Vince falls into a role of a very exciting number two option. I guarantee that team beats philly in the playoffs and we look at both Vince Anti Max career completely differently. My second issue with you guys is that it's not fair to compare Vince to lebrons or Kobe. No one's putting Vince in the same conversation as those guys, but his career is still is very oppressive. How would he stack up? Compared to guys like Carmelo Anthony, Paul Pierce or Shawn Marion great questions from Jake had a follow up from J. C.. WHO also brought up the Paul Pierce comparisons. And noting that he would maybe take Vince Carter. Here's. Blasphemy because he said quote. Pierce just had the chance to be joined by other hall of fame players, and he was probably a little bit more selfish, shed a little bit more of that Mamba Mentality. But from a talent and basketball perspective I would still take Vince, so he's saying that Pierce may be benefited from stir circumstance that that Carter didn't benefit from so taken away Michael. What do you think do? Do we shortchange those raptors teams, and this possibility of t mak advance, and then how frustrated argue that someone's coming out celtics icon? We should've mentioned the team partnership at least once in the discussion It's a really good point that jake brings up and it's a huge. What if I mean I believe at the time. Rookie deals were eligible for massive extensions after year three so essentially instead of paying t Mac the raptors shipped him for a first round pick. That wouldn't come to fruition until two thousand five. which is five years after the trade, which is just very comical? The Raptors also I mean they could've just resigned Mac, and then in the ninety nine draft they took Jonathan Bender with the fifth pick, and then traded him to the Pacers. For thirty one year old Antonio Davis. they could've taken rip Hamilton or Andre Miller or Shawn Marion in that draft, and then we would probably be discussing Vince Carter's legacy differently. had they kind of naturally organically grown the team through youth, but they didn't do that so yeah, it is a really interesting. What if it kept t MAC and those were kind of able to play together maybe with Andre. Miller, throwing them lobs, it would have been credible. So the Paul Pierce issue before we get to Paul Pierce can I just share I just double back, maybe with like just a a slight splash of hater aid. Not really convinced that Vince. Carter and t mak are going to do anything meaningful together gotta say when we're saying. This guy is a big. What if and this other guy over here is a big. What if and if we put them together? Seems like to me. That's just a bigger. What could have been right well, why are they? Why are they necessarily going to be making each other better or fitting or a team? To a higher level? Of course they're going to be posing serious athleticism matchup concerns, but there's one basketball neither one of these guys is that true top five level player in the game at that point of their lives I guess they could grow together a bit. I just I'm not sold man I. Don't know exactly what they're. Ceiling looks like now. If you're saying if the argument is well, the East. Wasn't that great? Maybe they're able to get to a conference finals or finals together. You could possibly talk me into that, but like Vince Carter got to play with Jason Kidd Jason Kidd's a heck of a lot better than Tracy McGrady, and how'd that work out? You know I don't know I. Just I, it sounds better on paper and it looked great during the two thousand dunk contest. That partnership never looked better than. T MAC throwing Vince lobs and everything else, but I don't know man I. Don't really buy into this idea at all. Well. I see your your your points and look. They're both. I guess score I guys and. If team. I feel like t MAC would have been kind of disgruntled eventually because I mean that guy I think it was like twenty three when he won his first scoring title in Orlando So. Yeah. He would have been calling for the ball a lot more. There could have been They could have been ruffling each other's feathers in each other's lanes for sure I just think that the talent is undeniable, and so I'm not like guaranteeing. They would have figured out a way to make it work, but. It least letting them try probably should have been on the menu in Toronto instead of trading him for two thousand five first round pick. It's ridiculous. It goes back to the troubles. They had at that time period. Though of keeping is happy, you know and and being destination their entire franchise. Just a reputation has done a one eighty. You know I. Mean Remember how quickly Bosch wanted to get out of there even ten years later. Just a tough time for them to organize anything. Some of those moves wind up looking worse than hindsight just because. They were operating from initiating standpoint is completely behind the eight ball. All Right Gimme your Paul Pierce breakdown, or even compare him to Carmelo Sean Marian. Where do you put Vince on that group? Okay so pierces just better. W start at the top with just that I mean if you just make the statistical argument, regular season numbers, I went back and looked very very comparable for their entire careers in Pierce I I think it's fair to just include all of the the back half. Years where pierce a role player. In Washington in Brooklyn. with the clippers, which was just really grotesque and obviously Vince, was a role player with half the League but so the regular numbers are pretty comparable pierce, nearly average twenty per game in his career, and as we said last episode Vince Average something like sixteen. where Pierce separates himself obviously the the postseason where he played over twice as many minutes he played in two finals, He won the finals MVP. He was named to two more all NBA teams, two more, All Star Games, but in two more Alex Star Games? appears just like got to the line a lot more He was just a better clutch, score and crunch time that right elbow jumper was just very Goto, and where I think it, narrative they diverge is. Peer said this whole contentious relationship with Boston and Boston fans and Boston's organization and there was. He was very close to being traded a few times in his prime. and He Kinda just weathered the storm there, and yes, he get help with cage, trade, and the rail and trade, and of course you cannot discount that, but pierce also could have been traded himself. which is what happened with Vince? Who basically stopped trying at? Various points during his raptors tenure. So you know if Vince does not you know if Vince does not. Basically pack his own bags and get himself dealt and stays in Toronto and makes it work I. Think we look at him a little bit differently. now not all of that is on Vince and just like not all of Pierce's pierces commitment to staying in Boston is all on him. I mean the obviously Boston's Front office made those deals swung those trades, but he I think just like the whole. Whole narrative of him staying and winning with one team becoming an icon there it just factors into his legacy in a way that Vince Vince Jesus doesn't have that. Yeah I mean that's the true. What if it's not the McGrady trade? It's the Paul Pierce Trade. How much better off would we be if we didn't have to listen to that title team Tell us how great they were for the next decade. No grape, great breakdown I mean I would have Carter behind Pierce for sure for all the reasons you mentioned. I would have him behind Carmelo I think he and Carmelo. Actually share some of the same annoyances in my eyes in terms of. Not Breaking through quite to the same degree, but I think Carmelo had more playoff success than Carter as number number-one option was clearly a better, more lethal proven scorer for a longer period of time. and. Just more famous and more decorated, too. So I think that one's pretty easy. Shawn Marion versus. Vince Carter is actually a really interesting debate. A kind of comes down to what you look in a player, but I guess this is my point. Jake if you're trying to stand up for your Guy Vince, Carter and your your bar has moved down to Sean Marian. That's not what we expected. When he came into the NBA right I mean we're expecting. Some Kobe calms now. Sean, Marianne comps and. Ultimately I think that's why we felt a little bit. You know left wanting by by. Vince, career alright a couple more to close this thing up, Mike our Buddy stabbed, rose checks in, and he says I've got a theory. That's worth floating by the pod because I know he occasionally likes to don the tin foil hat. How does that feel Michael? You're getting a global reputation. As a conspiracy theorist, he writes. Michael, do you reckon the Pelicans are playing the jazz in the first game of the NBA restart because Utah had the juiciest quote unquote off season, and there are some controversial storylines for the commentators to sink their teeth into. You've got rudy's Cova test. Down the League and all the conversation about how? You know. He touched the microphones and the phones and everything else. And then you also have this idea of a brewing. Rudy Gobert versus Donovan Mitchell Rift in Utah. Where does Donovan forgive him? Is it going to become Donovan's team? Is it time to trade rudy? All those kinds of questions so Michael. What do you think was it? Merely a coincidence that we knew would be on opening night, but in terms of the Utah side of this thing you know. Why do you think that the NBA put them on in that spot? This high profile prime time first game back. What do you think? I have no idea I mean. I love a good conspiracy, but. Utah's juicy offseason quote. UNQUOTE WAS A. Nineteen years ago I don't think anyone. It's not really at the forefront of anyone's mind right now. And no one's watching that game because they wanna see if Rudy Gobert. Donovan Mitchell are going to. Get into a fistfight I. Don't think so. You know if you're trying to rope in casual fans, I still think almost any other team is a better choice than the Utah Jazz I. Mean I know that sounds really harsh. I personally love watching the Utah Jazz play basketball and Quin Snyder's system is really enjoyable and aesthetically pleasing, but I would have preferred another strike true undeniable superstar in the other end going up against I on even like the Memphis Grizzlies with job mirant that would have been more I. Don't Know How many times those teams would play during the regular season, and whether or not there would be feasible, but I would prefer another star guaranteed star, and I like Donovan, but he's just not there yet. Yeah, I'm wondering if it's just this idea of like you know the last team out in the first team in you know. Know if you're just trying to set the stage for a whole bunch of Audie audience members who are Oh wait the abuse back like the casual fancy kind of checking in, and you can start that game by saying well, guys, you might remember back in March, the scary scene in Oklahoma City, when the UTAH. Jazz had a positive test and the guy run on the court. You know here we are. The NBA is back four months later. Does it just wind up kind of being the table center and like I? It's almost as symbolic value of like the team that. was, most, directly impacted by. This is still standing and here they are trying to compete for a title in Orlando. Is that sort of what the NBA was going for? Are we reading way way too much in all of this? Yeah you're you're. You're peeling back layers that I didn't know existed to be honest I it's the Utah Jazz I mean come on, it's like. Like a any other team I would have thought would be more appropriate. Why aren't the Houston Rockets playing that game? James Harden is way more marketable than anybody on the jazz. Just put another star there. Even the blazers with Dane loot I mean. Come on. It's very simple. Yeah, I, hear you. There's a lot of other good options. I do wonder if there is some like if that's what they were thinking, though some symbolic idea of like. We've got a pitch. The resumption to the masses as kind of a return to normalcy, or we're trying to get back to business in some degree, and maybe the easiest way to do that is with the team that was under the most intense scrutiny in March in terms of being at the middle of the NBA pandemic response. It's possible that's my conspiracy theory. Stab rose. I don't think they're. They're setting them up for a Rudy Gobert versus Donovan Mitchell civil war. For the national television audience I really don't think we're going to get whoever's doing that game. probably TNT or Kevin Harlan is not going to be breaking. Is it time to trade rudy? Because if it's Kobe test I don't think we're going to be getting that on broadcast number one sorry. Now. I, don't think we. Well, that's what happens. Stab always goes to that galaxy brain territory. Right last question it's it's way more lighthearted. Joel writes my wife, and I have always believed in the mantra. Take nothing, but photos leave nothing but footprints I'm so glad to hear Joe. It's one of my guiding principles in life he continues. What should I do when nature comes to my home, I was practicing my free throws while listening to your latest podcast, and I turned to my left and I, saw a deer in my front yard. What should I have done? Keep shooting as it. It clearly wasn't scaring the deer away since it came over in the first place I have stopped and watched it. Eat our plants. Should I have gone inside to give space I ended up doing both of the first options and my free throw percentage definitely dropped because I was distracted. Thinking about how any second the deer could just charge at me. I guess I can't handle. The NBA pressure Michael included a photo of the deer for proof. Just in case you were doubting the veracity of his story. There was a deer interrupting Joe's free. Throw routine. So what would your advice be here to Joel I? mean sounds like his confidence is really shaken by this outdoor interaction. TV handle things properly would there have been a better option? What should our other listeners do if they're worried about? Deers charging them in their front yards while they shoot free throws. Man Joel taking a fear, the deer to a completely new level I really respect it. was actually. Yourself I. Yeah I mean it would be pretty scary. I think shooting free throws with a wild animal. Close by was there any opportunity to just challenge the deer to one on one? was that on the table? That might have been something to consider. I I don't know I. Ben I want you to take this one because I'm sure you have a very creative answer. I'm just saying look. If the modulus take nothing, but pictures leave nothing but footprints. punk Qadeer at basketball doesn't really fit with that idea. Michael I mean come on like you really want him to just beat up on some poor wildlife. Here's what I would say. I included this question primarily because one time. Before. I really got deep into this and national. Park Game I was in Antelope Island, State Park. In? Utah and I was wandering off a trail which your deathly not supposed to do. I was not taking nothing but pictures I was putting myself. I Michael being selfish, trying to climb up to this little Butte, so I can take a beautiful panoramic photo. And what did I find out when I turned around? To walk back to my car, I found out that I had actually gone through some deer habitat, and there was deers in between me and my car, and one of them would not leave. There was no way for me to get back to my car with this, dear in between me, like Joel I was scared, I did not know what to do. I froze for about an hour in a staredown. madge with the deer in the middle of Blinding Sun. In Utah there was no authorities to call I have service again I was not where I was supposed to be. This was entirely my fault. Michael Karma was hitting me hard on this one. Eventually, the deer moved on without incident I tried to scramble around kind of flanking him. Sort of like I had watched in some World War. Two documentaries in terms of how troops should be moving to get around or not necessarily directly engaged with an enemy. I was able to make it back to my car safely, but I never forgot that moment that intense fear. Knowing that you're so. You're not supposed to be staring down an animal that you're you're not. You have no business messing with so what I would say here Joe is first of all. You actually had nothing to fear. Because I got back to the car and I googled it in and deers are not really a threat to humans, and this one certainly was pretty small, not as big as the one who was in your front yard. So you didn't necessarily need to be worried about getting charged in any manner. I think that the best thing to do though when you have these nature encounters is to break out your phone. Take a bunch of pictures like you did. Take some videos and just keep the camera rolling. How many viral videos do we see on like rex? Chapman account of just some random animal in someone's front yard, doing something crazy, so Joel the best opportunity here would have been for you to kind of maximize your potential twitter twitter, following by getting some just great a wildlife content. Beyond that you can't blame your free. Throw shooting on the deer. Bottom line. If you can't have an extra set is watching you when you're shooting free throws. You're not where you need to be mentally. I would recommend a meditation APP. some other kind of confidence building method to kind of get yourself refocused, and I would also consider. Maybe getting. Like a fat head, version of a deer, those cardboard cutouts Michael I think he should actually set up some deer, statues, or deer, cardboard cutouts in his front yard, kind of like a gnome garden, you know. With full-sized. Dear so that he can work on his mental toughness right and he he just kind of like simulate. It's almost like a road crowd. He's playing in front of a road crowd of deers. while. He's trying to shoot. His free throws to just get himself up to the next level in terms of self-improvement. What do you think the Fed had? Idea is fascinating because. I in college in my apartment, senior year had a life life-size, David Ortiz, fat head, and it was him in a batter's box swinging a baseball bat. And no matter what like it could have been three months into after I. put it up five months after I put it up literally every night when I would wake up and want to have to go to the bathroom or get a glass of water. It would scare the crap out of me so. I can totally relate to trying to put the the fat head up of the deer to. Strengthen your mental toughness, but. It may not work. It did not work for. Let me, ask you this I have only one scenario I can remember my life. That compares to this one time. I was playing a high school basketball game and the cute girl showed up to sit courtside. And I was just pressing like crazy I. Mean I was way too many turnovers for shots, not playing my typical game, just going above and beyond it wasn't that I, was choking like Joel in front of the deer, but it was I was it was. It was getting into my head for sure right? Who is or what is? The figure in Your Life Michael that could cause you to panic like Joel, so for example if we did have a fat head of whatever person might be, or if we did because I'm thinking back to this highest van I'm thinking like if you had tyra banks like the one thousand nine hundred mid nineties, version of tyra banks seated where. I mean just cut in. That was literally going to be my answer. I'm not I'm not even kidding you now. I had yeah I could talk about Tara banks forever. She was yeah, she was like my first crush, growing up I had the add multiple tyra banks posters in my bedroom, growing up and let me ask you this literally going to be my answer this perfect. Let me ask you this. I lineup. TYRA banks nine hundred ninety six TYRA banks. In front of you while you're trying to shoot, free throws or even just play in a five on five game. How do you respond Michael? How does that go for you? Walk US through it. I'm melting. Pot Oil. I have no legs. My legs are Jello. I'm not able to. My brain is not even communicating to the rest of my body had a at move had a jump had a shoot Michael It would be a total total mess. Is it possible that you try to own it before the game and like walk over and introduce yourself and be like Hey Tara I'm a big fan like I've just. I've always loved your work. You know the the daytime television show. Some people didn't think it was that grey and I honestly thought you were the parent to Oprah. Like would you? How how far would you lean into trying to carry yourself like these? Mba guys do sometimes when celebrities sit courtside. Because like if reality shows up at your game I, you pretty much have to at least nod or wave or do something. If you're an MBA guy, right I mean you have to? She's the biggest star in the building. It's just kind of unavoidable Or, are you just GONNA pretend? She's not there I feel like pretending. She's not there. Michael. It's not gonNA work out. It's only gonNA make it worse. That, that is i. mean playing it cool and just completely being an idiot that probably my move. or I would go up to her and ask why she was breaking my heart by dating Chris Webber because during that stretch I just I couldn't even breathe, I, I did not understand that move at all I was waiting for them to break up. and was like a sick person just very excited when they did. Well A I'm glad we've gone from dear straight to tyra banks, Joel. This is where. This conversation to go here, but No. It's perfect. It's fantastic. It's great insight into the wild wide of Michael Pena. The Tin foil hat enthusiast Ra might go. We've reached the end of another episode of open floor, but guys keep those emails coming open floor, male edgy mode, dot, com open floor mail address dot, com remember teams are headed to Orlando next week, so there's going to be an. Increase of media coverage and you know just The next stage of the NBA plan will be front and center as we go forward there Michael. All of our listeners can find us on Apple podcasts by searching for open floor. That's two words when they find our page. Scroll down. It will say rate and review tat five stars. It's just that easy to help us. Spread the word as we try to cover this MBA return, step-by-step and blow by. By blow Michaels on Instagram and twitter at Michael V. as in Victor Peanut I'm on Instagram at Ben Dot Golfer on twitter at Bengal. Check me out on. The Washington Post I've got stories about the mental reframing by the contenders that we talked about earlier, the basketball tournament bubble in Ohio. That's going on right now, and all sorts of other good stuff Washington Post Dot. com slash sports right Michael until next week. I will talk to you Texan Ben.

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Vanessa Hudgens Presents: A Very Special Coachella Episode

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57:54 min | 1 year ago

Vanessa Hudgens Presents: A Very Special Coachella Episode

"Welcome to the weekly the podcast relearn, everything you need to know about the celebrities. You don't I'm Bobby finger Lindsey Weber on this is our post Coachella episode. Is this our third time doing this actually are made Coachella episode because there's another coach of middle one. Because then we do it again the next week. It's our it's our first it's our third annual mid Coachella episode are third can't believe I've been carrying about Coachella for three years now terrible. Apparently Coachella has been going on for about seventeen years. And we tell that story. Yeah. Wanting to text we got last night Zad went onstage and said he's been doing this for about seventeen years. I was like not been going on that long. But then I actually did see some photos of vintage Coachella. And now I question my assumption. It hadn't I mean, very very easy things to Google. And I just did. I just did. Okay. It's definitely been going on for seventeen years. But that is like seventeen years old. I think he's like thirty okay season doing it. Was it started in ninety nine then they took a h-. Titus then they went back in two thousand one and it's been happening every year sense. That's crazy. Would you like to guess putting like an official guests on how old's that is my fav- God. Twenty seven twenty nine. I was close where he was born in Pence, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Russia. What the time it was the Soviet Union but Russia wit, so he's been alive since the Soviet Union and seventeen years of Coachella imagine being turned into Soviet Union stopped being the Soviet Union. What's the word, no idea? Yeah. Coachella. Have you been washing? Have you been couched chilling at all watching any Coachella? I I almost did. I was like on the YouTube app yesterday, and I noticed like live in and I was like, no, I'm fine. And then I watched some like just some dumb crap. I have some pals who are big couch cello fans, like they it's like, they kind of just watch the whole thing. Like, you can really stream the entire show and you can switch between stages. It isn't impressive livestream situation. I watched part of the orient Agron 'Grande thing last night because I was up too late. And I was like, oh in sync is gonna come out. And I was curious how she was going to do that. And it was really cool. I mean, I I'm I am impressed and glad that they allow that to happen. And they put everything online. Yeah. But also makes you think like bowl, of course, they do it because they know it's not overlapping with people who like they're going to get people there. No matter what they're going to fill that place. No matter what. Your yet? It's not you don't go to coach cannibalize music. I mean or like your maybe like twenty five percent watch music. I mean, you're just show up your fashion. You go to be photographed. Yeah. It's photo published. What does that from? I know it must be photograph publish we. It's you you're you're trying to quote, I live club. My. Obscure I would float the your house is your Conan. God it has to be perfected photograph published. Brandi 'Grande has a worse. I live clips quote in her set which quo China, remember, it's a popular one. It's a Goldie Hawn and it's morning. Mom. No, it's not morning. Muhammad. Can you imagine? It was more of an actress I have all of them. Yes. Yes. Oh, yeah. That was like what's the most iconic think just because I'm a movie star? I don't have feelings where you're wrong. I do have feelings. I'm an actress. I. In between songs she she does the I'm an actress, I have all of them. And I was like, oh, I know she's into that movie since she saw it for the first time like yesterday, but I was just taken aback between on the in sink. It was like fullest al-jaz. She also brought out Diddy and Mace and cumin Ashish she brought on Nikki she she brought Vicky and she made her sing bang bang. And he was like. Not like like anger lines emanating from her head. Well, it got it gets worse. The the track was offer. There was something off with their mics and their ears. And so she tried to wrap the middle. And it was a fill it. They both were. It was terrible. It was terrible. It was terrible. They had to give up. Me. You're telling me Nikki's live performance was terrible. But it was a nightmare and you could see in her face. She was like a someone's fired. I was like this is terrible. It's so it's impossible to feel bad for Nicki Menaj. It just really is. Also, not even to be whatever. But if you can't you can't top beyond says, Coachella performance, you know, one should. I mean, if you like oh shit of ended after that. That was the most meticulous special thing do name in our in LeBron's as was fine. But it was just like her live tour show, which is again, which was which is normal and what people normally would do Beyonce as just like a freak of nature. But how can we even accept anything else? You know? I certainly can't. But we don't care about performances. I don't even know why we're talking about the performances, I literally could give shit. I care about who. Is there who what were they wearing the fashions? What were they doing? What what sponsored lounges. Did they go to what I want to all about up? Luckily for you, just air junior as well as every other. Blog has been all over this. So if you go to go to just your junior, go to Coachella post and then click on posted to twenty nineteen Coachella music festival and then scroll for seven days seven seven days million days. You know, Paris Jackson and Gabriel Glenn bring their Boho style to Coachella two thousand nineteen Liam Payne, go shirtless at Buzi bellows Coachella party with gee-gee Hadeed. He was a really was he really shirtless or he had that shirt on without the shirt underneath. No in this who's fully shirtless. The way I thought one of him wearing a button up, but no shirt underneath a kind of showing like a sliver of AB and it said Liam Payne Isabela moaner stopped by Republic records Coachella party. I don't know who Isabela moaner is. She's she's the star of door and the city of gold is she the new door. Just wait for my game. You will learn so much about so many people you've never heard of that are at Coachella. But you know, the normals were there the usuals were there, Bella Thorne. She was there Vanessa Hudgens cleaned Coachella with her sister. She was there Kiernan Shipka. I don't know if she usually goes, but she was there wish airmen's sun her boyfriend. Haley was there. Amanda stemberg. Don't know. She didn't know she went was there. Kristen Stewart with her girlfriend. You know, Sarah dinkum was there. What do you know, Leonardo dicaprio's girlfriend's name? Happy girlfriend's name is is that the same one that was for a little bit. Get key namer. It's easy. Charlotte note as she shares. She shares her name with us sick note with a singer from fifth harmony. Who went Zing who went solo? Come on giving this to you. How might we the singer? She shares cook Kabila, oh come. Camila alba's. No, that's the that's river. Can last name sounds like like what you look annoys that. You're owning. Thank you trying to say moan, and I was gonna make you like work from Mon. She was a little Maroney, Doug. Yes. He was there with come Rony. And that's fun. Who else was there rata, obviously was there was brought other with bare. Rutta was there with. No, I don't I did not see her as she was there with Delilah Hamlin. Yes. A Emily rata and Delilah. Delilah. Hamlin. Bill in the sun at the Bondi sands area launch party in Palm Springs. I have no fucking idea. What that means? I think a hotel in Australia threw a party for itself in Coachella. That's really funny. What's it called? What's Bondi sands ERO von bonday? No, it's Bonda gone die sands arrow bone di- sans era. Olivia poeple couple blows three outfits blows. We I got to click it. Hold on. Let me at all. Blows through three outfits as she hops event event and Coachella date, two three outfits. She wore event. Enough. Also, if you were in different events, and you're planning to get photograph next to like, a toothbrush or whatever you got to change outfits. She she did a partnership at McDonald's. I know I'm so happy for her pre-festival with at McDonald's yesterday, heart fed and hydrated. Thanks friends. And then a son got the laziest. Your laziest emoji usage comes out when you're doing. Spawn. It's just like a smiling. Sun, a fry and then sparkles. I love it. And all she's holding the fry like being held in the air and the fries in her mouth kind of one. Fry looks good. Looks like a cigarette. If you cropped it would look like smoking a cigarette, but it's a frie- which a lot of people would argue is the same health benefit as a McDonald's. I would not argue that though, I think I liked that she specifically tagged the fries. Mcdonald's. That's fun. Justin, bieber's X shantelle Jeffrey shows up a very town tummy in a bikini as you says time is quote, fun o'clock, while hotel, not quite sure like what they're trying to say that she was saying like, I guess she tags something or she. She like made a cabinet said fun. Oh clock. But in daily mail's mind as she says, the time is fun o'clock, wallet Coachella. It's fun o'clock ratio to say, it's fun o'clock. We'll that's what's funny is like you would say like a normal person. It's fun o'clock the Daily Mail would take that and turn it into like she says the time is one o'clock. What else I went on one of my favorite sites. Oh, wait. I'm sorry. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on hold on of. There's a photo of her in this Daily Mail story in front of a billboard. And it says Chantal Jeffries twenty nineteen Las Vegas resident. And these scroll down, and it says a hit in our last Instagram post, the four bikini model was in a white crop top with jeans as she stood on the street behind her was a billboard for her twin one thousand nine Las Vegas residency, and but like cheetahs lives there, but what is her residency? She is the she lived there she perform, and if you perform what does she perform because she's a model model? What's your what's a residence with two residency? I don't know whatever it just says she's a resident. She just lives there. And why do we know they don't they don't mean it like Selena shinai? As a resident resident. Yes, sometimes you let you go move to Las Vegas, and you just become president. She got a billboard for living there. She got a billboard bore living there. We once funny is that they call it a residency, which is it is also that word works, but it's not a residency. She's just a resident. No, she's doing a residency. Sorry. She's she's doing a residency at the Omni nightclub as what? But what you're going to do there? I'm reading the the the press release as and it was Chantal, Jeff. The south of stuff. What who she DJ's? Oh. I actually actually might not DJ Lindsey. It's chantal. Jeffries has coming back for residency at the heart of Omnia, and it says Chantal Jeffries, the model socialite whose career has pushed towards music. Has pushed we has pushed honestly, I can relate my career also has often push towards music. Is coming back to the Hopkinson group for another round of big performances at the Omnia nightclub love and the wet Republic alterable forming. She is bliss, let's Grohl down. No, it's she's behind of a very classic DJ setup. And it says her pop music selections have become synonymous with summertime vibes. Promising more music and shows look for jeopardy's to return it spectacular fashion this year on the Las Vegas strip to purchase tickets bark arts and VIP ball service to the most celebrated venue in the country, the most celebrated venue in the country, the most celebrated venue in the country you lifting click click here it anyway, click it, her residency is like one show a month. We put show she's a deejay, but they will not call her a D. Did you notice that? No, they won't they won't. She's serving the function of a DJ, but they refused to call her a DJ she's allowed to this look at this like who we trippy ass Brady bunch grid. I just sent you. Oh, my is just all her all her and the dates that she'll be there pushing a button, she'll be pushing space bar a look at this ageism, God club culture, thirty dollars for men twenty five dollars for women's this binary. He's playing a club called wet Republic. Like, it doesn't surprise me that the mayor of wet. Doesn't surprise me that like hock the Hopkinson group nightclubs in Las Vegas are not familiar with like non binary gender. But I did not realize that you could still do this. I mean, they're, you know, there's thirty dollars. Music. I can't deal with she's pushing into music towards music, she's leading into music, she's pushing towards music. I pushing towards I hate this. I'm how did you get into DJ? When did you start? Gears though, and kind of actually started as a joke like everyone is like, oh, you're CJ the TJ joins up the bus music. Okay. And then my day Brunswick. Oh, why don't you just actually DJ really helps the best music tastes rate? So then they talk just started. I got to read you a headline on. That's not very Glenn. You know? It's funny. The Daily Mail Australia loves to pick on Tammy Hambro. They they're bullies. And they pick on Tammy Hambro. Here's one example. That's not very glamorous footage surfaces of me Hambro passed out asleep and snoring at Coachella eight months after she was carried out of Kylie Jenner twenty-first threats that we pay ten thousand dollars for surface as far as after that. They right. Do you know more Email tips Daily, Mail dot com? Begging you to Email them other unglamorous footage of Tammy Hambro, poor TIMMY Hambro cannot catch a break her tag showing she cut disease, though, she can get you can get your Z's at Coachella, and it could be posted on the Daily Mail. I mean, this is not the coverage that she was expecting. But any coverages coverage? What else happened at Coachella? Well, the Levi's brand presented neon carnival with bond is sans and Pokemon detective Pichu that was the most hardy. I saw there. I love these the detective, you could shoot. Could choose the the big pitchers. Remind me of that icon viral video in Japan of all the all the peekapoos dancing. One of the guys you deflates. I'm also it's weird. 'cause the beaches are are wearing like a outfits like they're wearing diesel. I think this party is Levi's bonday sands and poke him on detective Beka chew. It's truly the most wild mash up. I mean, there's no like spawn events like Coachella spun event, I mean, they really shove them all in there and also juicy in this album, which is means who is there, Geno, Monet Carucci Chan Nick, young RJ, Mitty and Allesandro Ambrosio real real squad. Wow. It's going goals. Eric Jane did a thing with shoot Asil nylon, Coachella midnight party. That's why all of the housewives were there and they got cold. Did you see that? Yeah. What did you committed joke about her looking like Josie? Well, she does she looks like see. Well, she has a big bow. She'll say judge receivable grown up. She has the same hairline lucky brand and Rolling Stone. Present desert jam what's next here. Justin combs and friends fly into Coachella with almost and Sarac. What is almost I don't know vodka or something they they why would they have to competing vodka brands Vilmos Kosovo raucous vodka. I know did you see these photos, though, literally there like fake laughing like through just on the on a private plane even know if it flew, and then, you know, some Surat watermelon on there, and they're laughing at this point. I don't believe and heath any photo private plane unless you like like can somehow prove that it's in flight is that is that a new conspiracy thing you're working on now. I just ever since the Everson. Versus the bow. While photos, just like I don't trust any celebrity in a private plane, unless I somehow see like a full start to finish video of them like getting in liftoff landing otherwise, it doesn't count is too easy to fake it. Oh, no. Komo Volvo is a quote, it looks like the van Mulago you'll be hearing from their lawyer. I'm sure it's a premium community for curated travel experiences. So I guess it like helps you book C you could travel book a private plane, presumably, that's what it looks like. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy about private planes are like the epitome of like baller right now. But they're also the epitome of like anti Clinton just climate change the print. Yeah. They're just like the worst thing you can do in terms of the environment. So there really are like excess but like terrible bad access. You know, it's irresponsible to go on a private plane at this point, you're on a private your private plane cancelled your cancel your council yet. We would would we should cancel you for that, basically. Yes, we what's happening with the live your whole Lauren Bush now I saw you put this in here. They look flirting fun during Neutrogena Coachella pool party. That's nice. That's it Charlotte. Mckinney showed off her very long leads in a mini skirt mingling with Halle Berry at pre Cotillard gifting suite my. Favorite party is a gifting suite. It's when they don't want to have their own party. So they just like throw all their shit and one gifting suite. And he didn't go and get it for free. You know, I love it. I I want to read you this. I want to read you this story that was just set to me by classic Kate. But this line after making a surprise appearance onstage during pal Jaden. Smith said Jordan woods made her way into the tau X revolve fete keeping a low profile just before two AM with her hood on and white mask covering her nose and mouth their this. It's funny would sat down at a VIP table on the dance floor of the main room after chatting with friends woods took off her mask while dancing along to the DJ. Okay. This isn't people by the way. So this is like a reputable source reputable and air, okay? Okay. At the next table over Kim Kardashian Wests this is there's no allegedly here this this is what's interesting at the next simple over Kim Kardashian, west ex-husband, Kris Humphries partied with friends, including model, shake shake who reached over to woods at one point. And said, I pray for you in reference to the aftermath of Katie. Who campbell? Who is the source? I pray where were they been people someone? I mean, this is not an alleged thing. This is not a source tells somebody's leaders hats, I pray or you. I pray for likely in reference was Kylie Jenner was also at Coachella. And everyone's like did they meet up? I want to make it clear that shit, Nina, shake, nab Irena, shake, just, you know, for the listeners out there. Who think the braille was there in new shake shin, Nina shake shouldn't even shape yet? She Nina shake interesting Arctic I was looking at the Daily Mail version of this headline is Victoria's Secret models. Jasmine, tooks Chanina shake Sarah some Pyo Elsa hawk and Romi stretched. Ooh to sex appeal as skimpy ensembles as they crash the revolve bash at Coachella crasher evolve bash, but did you hear that Liam Payne twenty-five looked at tad worse for the wear Coachella as he seen for the first time since I only Campbell forty eight ended romance because she was bored. That's a good one rang. I didn't know that. She did the romance. Yeah. And also, Jeremy Meeks kept things casual in white jeans and a pastel jacket as he arrived at Coachella neon carnival without fiance. Khloe green? Oh, no. I don't I don't believe they're still together. I think the broken up. I agree to there's a photo of Elsa Hoskins. And it's her like lying down in the in the sun. And it says living doll Elsa. Pose like, a dull. But the caption me after too much sun me me after too much sun. But I gotta say the worst event Coachella was not the dead set was not the was not trying to think of another musician that I knew was playing. I don't know that we haven't talked about the music at all did actually talk about the music member in the beginning barely but the worst. The worst place has got to be Jamila Jameel discusses body image and activism during create and, cultivate, desert pop up at Coachella. The men was filled with music food. Beauty treatments. Discussions. Liberal knows a panel discussion and pop ups from brands including super goop LaCroix and Shandong attendees were treated to keynote conversations from Jamila and toned up founders carrying dawn and Katrina Scott as well as fiance as mooks as well as fireside chat with influence or rocky Barnes powered by express. That is I was told I was too old to fat into ethic for Hollywood. But I'm here today. Don't listen to people who project their fears on you. Jim ULA said, do you know where you are Jimmy? And that's what I'm saying. It's like duly bulimic around you little like really trying my last nerve recently. I know we talked about her in a positive light. And I still think there are positive things to like what she's trying to do here, but going to Coachella and hosting like a pop up event like at this is this is not the move. This is not the move. Also, it's not these are not this is not your most receptive audience at all these are not people. Also in a way, it's like soya. It's. Suid of hypocr hypocritical to be there at all. And doing you know, how hypocritical soy because I'm like I'm like shaky. I'm nervous that would take tick tock filter that makes you more. That's right now. But I feel like if if you are they're doing a panel discussion with rocky Barnes of all people who like if you're if you're doing I'm just looking at this person, rocky Instagram. But if you're if you are if you are in a way even indirectly supporting the people who fully represent the lifestyle that you claim to low, right, right? You are a liar like Jamila meals is a fraud if that's actually happening. There's no what she's trying to do can do that at Coachella now. And that and this is not the place for you. Can you can complain about Coachella brought on the fire roles who the line about Coachella from afar, but the moment you do an event with rocky Barnes and in the same in the same breath. Like, let's see like my my how rocky Barnes and like also like body image like it doesn't work anymore. Jimmy, LA, we can I just read you a like we're both were where like Tyron coupons. If we know who's who she is. But can I read you a rocky Barnes just caption from her Instagram? I mean, she is she's Osceola legend this Instagram is a paid partnership with American Express and it says festival prep at the hashtag AmEx platinum house experiencing art installations by quote by hashtag friends with you cry. Oh, facials by eat q x body lab and an immersive travel light experience from a way, stay tuned for our immersive travel lead experience from way, use your AmEx platinum car to check it out AmEx life AmEx. Embassador? I mean, truly rocky Barnes. He's a rocky Barnes is doing a thing where it's like you freeze your fat and stuff and like getting to the coal chamber Roxie Barnes as an also posting yourself wearing ash rocky takes Coachella adventures Ashgar. Sponsored oh my God. She's wild every. With this person. But the. But Jamila should be you know, like, we'll just go. You just go. This whole entire thing goes against what she's doing unless she's doing a subversive thing where she goes there. And that's the point of her being there to do this which she clearly is not if she's part of like a sponsored panel that she's it says. Fireside chat with rocky Barnes Jamila. Honey, Honey, hey meal. No. I know it's so strange moving on I although I still I cannot I cannot stop laughing at every time. I think about it. The the really good mean someone made where it's this is a case for the FBI the league Kris Jenner like screen-grabbed from keeping actions like season two and they cross out FBI. And it says Jamila Jameel seeing that in replies about like body, image and stuff and Twitter today remain funny. This is a case Email. She's beamed herself quick I will say let's just end on one more drama, not the doesn't really care, but I don't really care about trauma. This is great Joseph ban on his half. Brother. Patrick sports in Egger were both seen at Coachella, but not together after Josie was left out of family tribute. Well, I wonder why Joseph Bana Patrick Arnold Schwarzenegger is love secret love child and Patrick Schwarzenegger who wasn't even know even knew about him until like eight years ago. I wonder why they're not friends like I wonder why. So Kevin Schwartz nigger for national sibling day, which I didn't even know. Suddenly everyone got the memo that they have to start participating in national siblings day. I hate everyone. I hate it. I hate it so much so Katherine Katherine Schwarzenegger posted a very very old photo of her and her siblings, the siblings with she shares with the siblings with whom she has the same parents biological parents aren't being Arnold and Maria, and it's her her three siblings, including Patrick, and it says I love them so much hashtag national siblings day, guess who wasn't in photo Giovanna existed because of the child he had with the house offer. I just say something that's a little bit like. It's welded Joseph Bana, the love child looks exactly like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Could not look more like him literally as clone. Meanwhile, Patrick sorts nigger excetera like they don't look like Kim. I mean, they don't they didn't right. Not good. His they didn't get his jeans. Meanwhile, Patrick Abana is like literally a duplicate of you know, why it's those those Kennedy jeans. They are store on their strike engines are stronger than the Schwarzenegger very, it's a very it's very Frank Sinatra Ronin thorough look at Ted. And I'm like oh. That's that's the sports nigger. You know, like if you like, it's all blue eyes. Yeah. Like this. It's great. They captured a photo of him. It says does the Daily Mail and says he's been working out. Joseph opted for a white Budweiser statement t- that drew attention to his bulging by soldiering biceps. So what happened was we didn't even get to the real drama. So Calvin Schwarzenegger posted this photo of her siblings, not not counting Joseph Buena. And everyone was like everyone few people in our comments were like, hey, like, what about your other brother come on come on come on? And this woman Rosa HDZ fashiony STA like went off in the comments and was like all hypocrites, they preach. All this love happiness forgiveness acceptance crap. But yet they never acknowledged their youngest brother true. It's not his fault. He didn't ask to be born. He's but he is here. And if you notice Joseph always likes their photos and follows them, it's really actually kind of sad. But they always like, but they always like Arnold spo- expect. Does except the ones with Joe in them. And then someone's has so sad. And then she goes, maybe they should stop preaching crap they day themselves. Don't follow. I call that hypocrisy at its best Catherine fuckin- Schwarzenegger responded to this woman, Rosa, HDZ fashion. He said, oh, she is sells on condescending cat. Katherine Schwarzenegger is like really on my shit list. After this saw on your profile. It says quote, God always just wanted to remind you of God's presence in all our lives, and even in yours as you come. Spreading hurtful words in judgment, heat is not judge you or any of us. I am praying for you and sending you love not. Because what you said is. Okay. But because I believe you need love to heal whatever is causing this. We're gonna I causing you to post comments. I'm sorry. God bless you. I'm sorry. I know that like in sending you love not because what you said is. Okay. Like bitch. You either send love and you pray or you don't you? Don't put. No, I'm sorry. You either all player, you don't like, you know, that like she. That Chris Pratt. He showed. She showed. Chris Pratt updraft at this before sending. And he was like, yeah. Baby. That's great. And then she gave me a job. Like, it's really disgusting. Imagining what happened there did you say gave her a hint gave me gave him a hand job. I was like I'm just trying to discuss the relationship is. I mean, I just can't like I want to your profile, and I saw God always adult belt, God God's best friend. I would like to say that I know that Godwin. Appreciate you. Spreading hurtful words and judgment. And it's like a awful do not bring on into this. You sound even worse than this. Do not bring God into this. We're talking about you ignoring the lovechild of your father, and whatever her name was the housekeeper. Okay. Dread by ENA before we move on away from Coachella, which honestly delight a delightful topic from thirty minutes. I have a game for you Coachella game excited. I don't have a game name. I just realized this it we could just call it game Chela is the game cello because it can take different forms. And basically what I'm gonna do is. I'm going to read you a headline with some unfamiliar names in it going to give you three options as to who this person could be and you're gonna have to guess, which one they are. I like it. That's fun. Okay. Choice. Yeah. The of caught him. Of course, you do. I mean, how else would you know, who these people are? So let's start this one was posted by just your junior. It says Kiernan Shipka a leash bow and Paris Borelli acc- stopped by Zohreh SIS at Coachella. He's wondering what Zohreh says is Rachel Zoe does pop-up lounger, whatever. Okay. Is a leash abo- a a Somali Norwegian actress known for playing Jessica Davies in the Netflix drama series, thirteen reasons why is she a French-British actress known for playing Maeve widely in the Netflix drama series sex education, or she see a South African actress known for playing Nancy Johnson in the Netflix drama series. The way I know. She's not Maeve. What was the first option a Somali, no agent actress known for playing Jessica Davis, and the Netflix drama series thirteen reasons why I think that that is correct? Okay. But who is Peres Borelli ACC is she an American actress known for her role as cat, Edison. In the free form television series. The bowl type issue in American actress and model known for roles as Schuyler storm in the Disney ex- ex- television series, mighty met in lab rats, elite force or she see in an American actress model known for her roles as Brittany fluent in the television series mortified for the Nine Network, and as a tasha ham and the seven series teen drama trapped. I liked the name Matata ham. So I'm gonna go with that. That is wrong in American actress and model known for roles Schuyler storm in the Disney series mighty mid in the lab rats leaf for okay, I hate this purse Brown. This is a headline from daily meal heading to Coachella imaging Anthony and Kylie Sandilands rug up in matching comfortable active where as they depart Sydney airport ahead of the infamous music festival is immature. Anthony, a porn star hailing from Australia known for dating Sydney politician, Kyle Sandilands is she be a reality TV star heading from Australia known for dating Sydney, soap, actor Kyle Sandilands or she see an internet sensation. Hailing from Australia known for dating Sydney radio. DJ Kyle Sandilands. Oh my God. The first one porn star ports are. Wow. No an internet sensation known for dating. Dave Sydney radio. DJ Kyle Sandilands. Oh, how should I have known? How can I have known? She's an internet sensation. Okay. He's the DJ Heil Sandilands. Okay. Here's another headline from from just area junior. Jordan Jones and dia beat the heat at lucky brands Coachella party is Jordan Jones, a dancer singer actress youtuber and musically star born in Kalamazoo Michigan on March thirteenth two thousand is she in Olympia and YouTube or and tip tock star born in Boise, Idaho on April, ninth two thousand orangey, see a dancer singer actress and twitch star born in Kansas City, Missouri on June fifteenth two thousand I hate I hate all of that. She's one of the two thousands persons there. Also. That's all year two thousand there all two thousand but as she from Kalamazoo is she from Boise is she a musically star. She had tick tock star. She had tweeted shot from Kalamazoo. She from Boise. She's from Kalamazoo. Yeah. Okay. Right. She's a dancer singer actress youtuber musically star born in count from Kalamazoo connects Jeanette Jeannette tickly blessed gene, ethically, look genetically, but she's wearing jeans genetically blessed Rebecca Judd flaunts endless legs in scanty, denim play suit as she and. As she in UK. Just like endless legs. You've said endless likes twice today. Flaunts endless leg endless loop. Endless Leonti denim place. Scanty denim place. It's like jeans, whatever as she and fellow friends Nandi Bartell and Jesse Murphy hit day to of Coachella music festival is Rebecca Judd, a South African model television presenters and scientists and the wife of former cricket player Quinton decor is you'd be a British model television presenter nurse and the wife of former pm, Tony Blair or she see an Australian bottle television, presenter and speech pathologist and the wife of the former Australian Football League player, Chris Judd. Speech pathologists. Speech any. Okay. Then moving on. Here's one this one where Chris Judd, wait the guy that was married to Jennifer Lopez. No, he's an Australian Football League player also named Chris Judd. Oh, hopeless as export husbands. It was Chris Chris Judd is a pretty standard name. Okay. This one is not a headline. This one isn't actually an Instagram caption them in a read you, oh, this is a guy named James Maslo. And it says so happy to have my source naturals vitamins with me here at Coachella to support my immune system, and he dancing all weekend. No joke. This wellness formula is one of my secrets staying healthy. Give it a try. Hashtag health. Hashtag coachella. Hashtag vitamins. Hashtag festival. Hashtag music. Is that? Yes. This is a hashtag. But of course, he doesn't get which is Larry's is James Maslo in American actor and singer who played the role as James diamond on the Nickelodeon show big time rush, an American actress singer played the role as Nikki on Nickelodeon. Nicky, Ricky, Dicky and dawn or see an American actor and singer played the role as Jerry O'Keefe on MTV. Together have TV's together that's aims to old. He'd be really old if he were on together. That's not see is he NICKY, Ricky, Dicky done or is he James diamond on big time rush NICKY, Ricky, Dicky dawn, that's to they're too young. They're like babies. Yes. So it was that was big time rush toward the other one. What's the other one, Ricky, Dicky Dixon? Don. Oh, then it's big time. It's big, correct? He is young big time much could I use? I did process of elimination K, and this one is just a photo going to send it to you. Okay. Hold. Okay. Here. We go. It is a woman. Actually. Okay. It is a person with big Phil like lip kit. Trendy Kylie Jenner lips with very face tuned. Skin, a big long eyelashes. And and eyebrows, she has like a she sorta like a, Jordan woods. Ian, look. Okay. Colder linked blonde shoulder. Lebron right? She looks like everyone here. She's wearing number Ray. Beret Louisiana there yet to describe it. And I'm trying to paint a picture for our listeners, shoulder-length, brunette hair. She kind of looks like everyone felt really dragging felt beret and her username as Woolsey. Cindy, she has a story that I can't click on because the screen shot and the caption is bag at. I got she's wearing a beret and her caption this beget. Okay. So this woman's name is Cindy Kimberley. Apparently. Yes, that's to Ferdinand to first names in K. And here are your three options. This is the last this last one I'll do. Is Sydney, Kimberly. A an Instagram sensation game to feign after Justin Bieber posted a photo of her on his feet and asked where did she get that hat is she be an Instagram sensation who gained fame after Justin Bieber posted a photo of her on his feet and asked oh my God. Who is this? Or she see an Instagram sensation new gained fame after Justin Bieber posted a photo Vern incident on his feet and ask how old is she? I think the I think the ladder the last one how old is she? No, no, he asked. Oh my God. Oh, that's good. We do one more. Yes. Okay. One more. Here's a headline from the Daily Mail, Allesandra, Ambrosi ios boyfriend Nico OD displays unfortunate, wet spot on crotch as he leaves Coachella carnival bash. Let me show you a picture of his wet crotch unfortunate wet spot on. Oh, no. That's an unfortunate wet spot. He peed himself. Okay. This one I did not write three options. I guess I fell asleep before I broke the third. So there's only two is Nico Audy the founder and CEO of lick an artisan gelato empire based in Florence that. He created with his sister Marie on two thousand twelve or is he be the founder and CEO of Alan Nui, a knitwear fashion label based in Milan, which he created with his sister Carlotta in two thousand sixteen look artisanal gelato. What? I'm sorry. Sorry. I made up an artisan empire called lick with two cues. He is the founder of a looney Nui, the whatever who cares. He has an unfortunate staying on his crotch. And that is my both of those are believable. I'm a thank you. I'm a good writer. I can't believe you didn't you didn't guess. Oh my God. Who is this? Yeah, I'm sorry. That was an extremely good game. Thank you so much. Thank you. It makes me really want to go to Coachella. You know? No, it doesn't we still need to go to stage. Coach though. No. It makes me it really really makes me want to go to Coachella. And the good thing about it is that I got a bag all ready to go. I don't wanna you could put your mesh t shirt, you neon top your beget hat really long socks. And then my will sneakers. Buy long socks. That's very true. Yeah. Budweiser shirt showing my bulging. Biceps get them. All. Away your Amrita bathing suit in there. It's about a good fits all into my bigger carry on from away. I love my bicker carry on you have your regular carry on. I bet you could fill and they're definitely fit like at least forty five A M Rhonda bathing suits in my away bag. Oh, yeah. I love my way back, and I know that it'd be great because I'd be taken so many photos at Coachella, am I could just use the battery to recharge my phone. Oh perfect. Oh my God. Everyone needs a charge Gela. I know we love our away bags. It's so good. You could throw it in the overhead compartment at works. You can take it around. You could spin it around because it has great wheels. You can even monogram. Now have you seen that gets a little customers? Mine I just white out or something like monogrammed. It's really cool. But you know, we talk about away bags all the time. We love them. They're perfect for Coachella. But for any trip where you need to pack, everything and pack it all well in something that's like, light and durable. And it has a TSA approved lock. It's perfect. So for twenty dollars off a suitcase visit away travel dot com such who weekly twenty and use the promo. Code who weekly twenty during checkout. That is a way travel dot com slash Hoogly training that is a way travel dot com slash who weekly twenty and use promo code who weekly twenty during checkout for twenty dollars off a suitcase, but we're delicate. Hello. So we have to move onto who who Andy Williams is divorced after months of speculation and rumors Wendy Williams has filed for divorce from her husband. Over twenty years Kevin hunter when did admit it in her memoir that he cheated her on her nineteen years ago right after the birth of their son. That's a red flag to me. Hello, the divorce around the world. Honestly. I mean, literally said when he's won the ring comes off and the ring fully came out there really isn't much to say, Wendy. She filed for divorce, and she really didn't say anything about it, except I think there was one Instagram of her kind of waving around the ring the ring that she was wearing that was not her wedding. Ring was like a big butterfly ring. She's friel. It's been the motto of the hot topics bureau since the show was invented during our six weeks think peak eleven years ago, and it's so crazy. 'cause now my business is your business. Kind of funny. Turnabouts affair game. I got it. My business is your business. I can tell you this. I had a really good weekend. I got together with my girls. I told you I have my sober friends. I have six of them that are really good. And one of two of them are my sponsors, and they came over to sober house this weekend, and they had wrap sandwiches. What I had the leftover from tau? But did you read the story at radar where now on there's the source that says that it says, whether you believe is having second thoughts about divorce from husband, and it says, although she slapped her controversial husband with divorce papers, a source has told radar Wendy's. Having second thoughts about the divorce. She's terrified of being alone. And it says, of course to the insider, Kevin and his friends are putting a lot of pressure on her to not go through with the divorce. She's terrified of being alone and insecure about her success without him. He is a master manipulator, and the strong lady we see on TV isn't who she really is. Here's the I is that Wendy does not make a lot of Wendy has a lot of enemies who loved to leak things the tabloid. So I feel like Wendy who has been. Her whole career, like dunking shed is. This is stuff is always obviously going to be written about her no matter what. Because like everybody's out to get her kind of in this way. Mrs there, even if that's not true. Even if it's not true. It's it is proof that she has enemies people don't like her. But also, I feel like this. This might be true because sure like heaven is literally her partner in business partner in life. He like got her into rehab apparently. I mean, she she probably is very nervous too. And he's probably like without the equivalent of like a rude stage parent. Yeah. That's who I who knows her entire life. I do like the rumors the stories that she is moving to New York City, would I guess good for her easier for so much better for her. She did not easier to be she doesn't need to be is slated like that like Wendy's canceled. But also like it seems like her life really as miserable. It's really sucks, but apparently she's moving to Manhattan which could help but Manhattan is probably a much better. Place for one's sobriety journey than kind of being isolated in your house filled with bad memories in New Jersey. You know, like get a brand new place. Go out like go to soul cycle go to the museum like hang out as much as possible. Anyway. So that's what's happening with Wendy Williams. What's next on our on our league? We just got an alert. Did you see this or I just got an alert on Lori Laughlin and her husband pled not guilty? Which is a huge deal. So we will I don't know where we even do an update to that. I feel we're gonna do it. Basically the last thing I read she was quote freaking out about possible jail time. Will what happen? We didn't talk about this. But it was kind of a big deal. I thought was that so Felicity plead guilty and got out of jail time. And was like, I just don't want to deal with any gave a really good statehood. And but Lory who literally walked into jail waving signing, autographs lake doing, just whatever. And I think she feels like she is didn't do anything wrong. Meanwhile, she's the one who spent the most money on this thing. Sorry. Okay. And apparently just now it AMP T, she pled not guilty, which is what people worried about and they because they added on extra charges, so it's not just mail fraud anymore. Now, it's money laundering, which is bad news. Oh my God. Olympia Jade's parents both I'm quoting TMC, Olivia Jade's. Parents both face a minimum of four years and nine months in prison. And that's even if they cop a play, I'm telling you like those other just went all out there. We'll also they have it. Okay. The thing about per second. They have more money they have the money to plead not guilty because they can spend more on legal fees. You know, Liga they draw this out and get really good, lawyers and like. They're ridge enough to plead not guilty is what I'm saying, which is really fucked up. But I think that's kind of what's happening here. They can hire a ton of lawyers. They can drag it out to the point that it might something might happen in their rich enough. You're right there. That's this whole this whole thing. But it's funny because like they're so high and mighty they're so holier than thou that they refuse to admit that they did something wrong. But so even though saying that even though pleading guilty would get them out of jail time. Maybe they refused to do it. How fucked I cannot believe that. Yeah. Right. Only on. I really I really can't believe that. That's wild. Yeah. But I guess it makes sense. I guess it makes sense. I. Do you want to talk about this Jason tart, Kaitlyn bristowe story, not incredibly who? Even is she. Oh, she's bachelor. She not showing he's bachelorette. I wanna talk about speaking of jail time that fire festival scammer Billy McFarland and Mike the situation. Tina are our friends in jail and they play scrabble. I've left that I liked really funny imagining that because I bet neither number pretty good earning good at it. Also perfect for the two of them a lot. I'm sure Mike the situations where on Tino things that Billy McFarland is like the best thing that's ever happened. Oh, yeah. His dream. He's dream pal. He's like you scant use scammer love this Michael Cohen might go there. I was thinking all hang out. Yeah. That'd be really fun. He's probably really good at scrabble would have fun. What a what a place to be Lindsey put the Senate. It's a good vintage Daily Mail headline and it says so Richie puts her enviable taught tummy on display while fetching frozen yogurt with Bo Scott Disick disgusting in cat. I felt like they really really like reached back into their their their glory days for that one. Enviable taught tummy. Well, they've been doing a lot of practice with all the Coachella have lines. It's true. They're like long legs or whatever. This is a big. There's a big moment for them kind of like how every other media company is like, you know, writing the game of thrones wave for the last time like every year Daily Mail gets Coachella. I cannot wait for for my God. I cannot wait for game of thrones to be over. If only just because I won't have to hear coverage about it. It's so annoying coverage about Daily Mail a covers road game of thrones is so fucking annoying. It's even annoying has a game of thrones watcher, and I'm not, and I it's so annoying. Imagine not watching the show and having here like Santa, you know, I watched the last night tents up. But at least you have a you have a relationship there because of the because she's a she's a j sister. I don't have this sort of care about Sansa. I don't care I want to take the throne because she's as Ajay sister. And she wouldn't might pre-october literally you're saying that in my mind, I'm like, oh, she plays Sansa. Like, I don't know. I'm like, oh, she sends a I guess what else does that is happening here. Oh, chris. And he says Jay Cutler on clogged milk ducts by some. And that was like on the show. I kind of don't want to do that. Because I feel like there's just something they said on the show, and it's like promoting the show. We don't you obviously are not watching. If you didn't see I have got. No, I'm waiting on a cut Dina. Lohan internet boyfriend broke up with her to the dancing stars people Val and someone else got married Andy Richter and his wife are getting divorced in us weekly printed their entire story of how they met which involved diarrhea, which was interesting. Well, it was the interesting thing about that. I do want to read that because I actually forgot to skip. This mean, it said they go for over twenty years. But it does the stories like the there's no details. So of course, they fill they fill in the word count with old stuff. And it's like, okay. So Sarah thyroid navy recruiter getting a divorce they quote at their tweet, which is like a sadness that Sarah out. So we have separated and begun divorce proceedings, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, then they scroll down and they say five years after they went the actress opened up about her love for Richter. This is when I knew he was the man for me she began in one thousand nine New York observer piece about before revealing their unconventional love stories. They go. Go on to tell the unconventional love story which involves Sarah tire accidentally taking a ship on the floor of Andy Richter's house. You like they must have said this because they both do so many like podcast, and and comedy things like that that it's like you say this on like one of those things, and then the and then in true quickly fashion. They like it. It's divorce store. They take three long paragraphs about the about the diarrhea. And it goes she continued when I saw that shit was coming out of my naked on the floor of his apartment. I just started laughing and ran to the toilet and sat on the toilet continue talking to my sister. And I was like I just shot on the floor, and she was laughing, and I look over and abbey's wiping it up. He's scrubbing the floor. I was like oh my God. He's wiping up by diarrhea. The most amazing man ever. I think that's what I said. Yes, I'll marry you and then next new paragraph Richter dire share two children son William eighteen and daughter mercy twelve that's the end of the story about their divorce. Until like, it's just a it's not even that the that the story exists. It's just us weekly wake putting it in there is so is so them, you know, they have nothing about. Yeah. Yeah. It's really them. I think it's time to do an ad, and I feel like if you on the floor, and it was kinda sticky in your apartment, you would really really want an air purifier. It's the only air purifier. 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What's up to this week not much because Coachella, she wasn't that Coachella? No. But I'm saying she wasn't there. But Daily Mail who would you filling their pages? All the people Coachella. I did notice sort of it wasn't a drought. But it was a significantly fewer read or stories trickle she committed attention to think, Pat or like. Okay. Rita ORA is making you commended attention into single leggings as she had home three after night on the town with pals. But more importantly, like did a whole UNICEF thing and Costa vote, which was really sweet they're all these photos of her kids. Yes, she did. Like, a good thing should charity. She's she loves charity remorse or prizes. Four hundred children at UNICEF event in Costa vote, it's these cute photos of her little children. But they're like little children five, you're it's and she's just of sweatshirt, and it's funny knowing none of them who she is. That's cute. That's mean, and do they even need to kind of. I I'm I'm jealous. Those children. Also, we think we figured out one hour ago. What her song will be indetectable chew? What is it? It's called carry on. And it's with go sick a love that was just announced. We also I feel like going back to that the kids the kids do read or is in Kozo. She's fine. They're five year olds. They don't really know. Anyone is exactly that's there. I don't know one hour ago. I we're going to getting snippets soon. But it says she says I can't show you my new solid. Kyko music for detecting. Could you move out Friday? It's coming writing. Are you ready pre save at the link typical brief stuff, and then it's three photos one of detected shoop album, art. So it says Kyko Rita ORA carry on. And the next photos are one is her and yellow and black which is very much bitchy reference in the next one is her in the same outfit holding a magnifying glass up to her. She's fucking wait detective or that moving to be huge. It's going to be huge huge huge second to lion. King movie of the year. Some huge. Okay. I mean, just like in terms of opening not like in terms of open a good. I think it's gonna be good because I'm talking. What I'm going to be a huge movie. And I think the only thing that's going to be at this year's the liking. I can linking which finally a trailer, which looks I'm sorry, not great. It looks while ritual thing, it's the same thing. We'll just look like the exact same thing. But why would I want like real animals that aren't even real that are like CGI animals hate each? I hate DJ animals. I love that people are starting you know, who I really respect last week. Nate Jones of culture, did not call it live action Lion King, and I really respected that because people keep going live actor linking. And it's like it's called. It's linking it. Jalen action. Linking right. They're not using lions to handle people know terms. But you're right. It's it's not I hate it. Because it's it's uncanny valley animals, which is like the worst kind ever. It's like either either give me, you know, a dog real dog with its mouth moving. And you put words in like. Yeah. But also the dogs that go the dogs that go west or whatever dogs that travel home about homeward bound, Josh Lashley watch like ten minutes last night because it was after veep like flip to another HBO family animals, where they just like, you know, they make their mouth move or whatever. And then they don't even move the mouse and homebound Sally feel to it. It's just a cat much much better beloved picks take matters into their own paws. He shut something doesn't smell, right. She's cats ruling dogs drew these Chan life getting now they're determined to find their way back. Josh goes is that Sally field. And I was like yes, it's field. It sassy is that's field. Anyway is that field. I'm ansa. I'm against the line king is that field. Okay. 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Steelers Friday: How Chris Boswell and the Steelers kicking game will be even more special in 2020

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Steelers Friday: How Chris Boswell and the Steelers kicking game will be even more special in 2020

"Pittsburgh steeler fans. It's finally Friday and you have stumbled upon hopefully you haven't stumbled upon but you have found. The Pittsburgh steelers show for Friday four, the behind the curtain family of PODCASTS, and my name is Brian Anthony Davis and I am glad to be here with you all today to be talking about my favorite thing and yours the Pittsburgh steelers. But first, we have few announcements to make. It has been a very eventful week here behind the steel curtain and lots of changes coming to our family of podcast also www dot behind the curtain dot com. So if you have how chance to take a look at the blog site today, you may have seen an article from. Former behind the curtain editor Jeff Hartmann. Called the walk of shame well. We gotta take former off of that. So I would like to welcome back Jeff Hartman to the behind the curtain family podcasts and the website is well. Welcome back Jeff Hartman as the senior editor. And David Scofield remains as the editor of behind the curtain as well. So really exciting news to welcome Jeff Back. Now I have some news that's not as exciting for me because. You know welcoming Jeff back really excited about and really excited about how we are going to revamp everything here. But I do want to make another announcement and that is my very good friend who is usually in this spot lance. Williams has decided to no longer podcast with behind the steel curtain and we wish him the very best lance stepped away and he's taking care of some business right now. And I have to say that I have been with behind the curtain for five years and Lance has been here a whole lot longer than that and doing the standard is the standard and Yeah I said it as well as the show on Sunday whether it be the homer, the hater the steelers postgame lance has been an amazing colleague. I will completely miss him especially on the Mike As. I had a great time. And I. Have a lot in common as far as you know our age grownup up in western Pennsylvania our love for the steelers and our love for pop culture as well. So I wanna wish Lance Williams the very best I hope to be doing shows with him in the future as well because the door is always open to my very good friend, sir. Lancelot. So Lance, thank you very much for everything that you have done in your legacy here at behind the curtain. And with that being said, we are going to in honor of Lance. We are going to retire the Wednesday show called. The Standard is the standard we're going to go ahead and come up with a new name for that, and we are also going to retire the name. Yeah. I said it and the reason I can't imagine anybody else saying, yes, I said it with the conviction that Lance did I. You know I think it was an absolutely fantastic show and a fantastic concept and only I want to hear that only Atlanta's voice. So with that being said which. Field has joked that that could be the name of my new podcast. My my cash, raise us all the time with that being said. So we will no longer have a said or the standards, the standard but coming up, there's GonNa be lots of changes where. This News Khaimah with Jeff, coming back and. Your subsequent but not. Be completely away from the fact that Lance was other jeff was coming back and Lance. It just happened to fall in the very same a couple of days so. With that what's going to happen is we're GONNA do some revamping here like a total makeover. steeler style. That's exactly what we're GONNA do. So you're going to hear Jeff again, he will be back on the steelers preview I'm going to try to coax him to do some more shows as well in. We'll be talking about that and also you're going to be hearing a little bit more from a some favorites that you know and love maybe in some different roles. Tony. Deputy will be here as always in also. Michael Beck. Michael's GonNa Michael. So good. He's GonNa get his own show. So that's something we're going to work on his well. We will have more of the logistics. If you have any ideas for some show names, we're GONNA come up with those two but you know you're part of the BTS's family. So we want to hear from you as well. So like I said, we have Tony. With the steelers Brunch on, Saturdays you're still going to hear from big BRO SCO and Scofield, you're going to hear a little bit more from Jeff Again, myself in Jeffrey Benedict is going to join us as well as we have some great ideas for some new concepts for shows, and there's a lot of things. Over the last twenty, four hours swirling in my brain of me trying to figure out what we're GONNA do as the podcast producer here at behind the curtain. So is going to be plenty of excitement. So stay stay tuned. Because we are going to have the same quality steeler content that we always have. So, with that. As Dave Scofield says. Lots of the same plus more. So there you go. We're really excited. Robert Zecevic says. Beckon Black Beck and black. I like that. Michael Beck does something like the he does his open mic show that he's had before actually it's not open mic it's live Mike I want to call it Mike. Just. In my mind. But we we could There's so many things that we could come up with, but I want to move on and we can cut talk steelers because we are inching closer and closer to the two, thousand, twenty NFL season and anything is possible. That's the thing. It's going to be really interesting season we are going to see Saturdays Sundays where we're going to yoga turn on behind the curtain look at it and say, Gosh, who tested positive. Or who is going to be in the starting lineup? So there's going to be a lot of late breaking news in the the guys that do the breaking news at the site are probably like, yeah, there's going to be breaking news. We're going to be busier than ever and so it's going to be the most interesting season. And you want to look back at two, thousand and nineteen. In two, thousand, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, how there were a lot of changes and they were all good. But it seems the way it was shaping up in the work that Kevin Colbert Omar Khan Mike Tomlin. The Rooney family everything that was done. is going to shape what's going to happen in the twenty twenty season. But something happened. A resurgence. Might I add has happened and that happened in two thousand nineteen and that was none other than Chris Boswell Chris Boswell I mean. Justin Tucker gets all the press in he gets all the accolades as he's probably one of the few hall of fame worthy. Kickers in the League right now but Chris Boswell. Came back. With a fantastic season as what we can only call an aberration the year before and not a good one. Two thousand. Eighteen Boswell the wizard of Oz he. His one wasn't working as well and when I'm saying is wand I'm talking about his kicking leg. and. So the wizards just. Wasn't connecting. It was a it was like, let's just say if this was hogwarts than the dimensions got to him in two, thousand, eighteen, sixty, five, percent cash even the extra point game was off, he was thirteen for twenty. It was just not a good year at all and a lot of people lost confidence in Chris Boswell. Here's a good thing though Chris Boswell did not lose confidence in Chris Boswell and that is the most important thing. Chris Boswell came back with a vengeance ninety three point five percent kicking percentage. He missed two one was from way out I. Think it was a fifty, four, fifty, five yarder and wind that. Didn't have a chance. But I can't remember the other one that he missed but I think it was extenuating circumstances as well. He was twenty nine for thirty. One only missed two kicks. He was perfect on extra points. Baas really came back. There was a lot of talk. In two thousand eighteen and even after the season in the preseason for two thousand and nineteen that maybe they need to start looking elsewhere. But the talk swirled back to the fact that. Even, though he wasn't talking and he wasn't disclosing, but it almost seems there's been a lot of speculation that there was something wrong with his kicking leg he was injured. It just wasn't the he just wasn't connecting because if you look at the man's career his career, he was an eighty seven percent kicker and you've got to look at two thousand eighteen how that really knocked down his percentages well, he was in the nineties he would have been in the nineties without that horrible two thousand, eighteen season but the guy was one hundred and twenty, seven for one, hundred and forty six. So that's nineteen kicks. That, he missed in five season. And seven of them were in that two thousand, eighteen season Sean Monahan is saying two thousand eighteen Baas was most likely injured I agree. Mark Davison. The man from down under and you know I always say that I I've got to say that. But I'll tell you what? From a man from Australia Mark Davison guests to a lot of games too. So Arc. In Pittsburgh. That's that's pretty amazing. So mark. As. Well in you know I wanNA give a shout out to mark for steeler nation down under steeler nation Australia on facebook. Really Cool facebook page. So check that out. That's a really good group to as well. I like to jump in there and just read it every once in awhile. Boy I tell you what it's like the steel city down under they've got a lot of passion for the Pittsburgh steelers and that is you know it's amazing to see how global this team is, and you know there's only a handful of great global teams and the steelers are definitely one of them Not, you obviously jumps in the show first time I've been able to watch the live show. How y'all doing not you obviously doing pretty good and glad to have you on the live show but I wanna bring up something that he said. So obviously, not you obviously. Is a good fan of the show, but he doesn't have an opportunity to show up when we're doing it live in the contribute. That doesn't make you any less of a fan of the show that means you're a fan of streaming behind the curtains family a podcast, and that's a really important thing because if you're driving in the car in, you've got that commute. You don't want to be looking at this face. This face is gonNA cause an accident so you don't want that. So download US you know what? Listen to me yapping about steelers while you're mowing the lawn you've got your pa I'm sorry let airports Gosh. My kids would be killing me right now if they heard me call ear pods, Air Pods, you might have air pods, you might have your any kind of headphones I like these kinds of headphones when I mow the lawn or working outside because I can hear a whole lot better with them. Stuff. Sticking to my ear as much. Really, when I have to get that hearing aid, I'm going to have to get one of those expensive newfangled ones because those hard ones that you're great grandpa used to wear those. Oh, those were trying crazy I don't think I'd be able to handle this but when you're in the car. When you have a chance listen to listen to our family of podcast just by downloading free to download all you have to do is have have the space to do it and not you obviously, he is back in me up 'cause he's saying listen to every episode of work. So that is awesome. Just because we don't, we don't get to see alive you're just as important to us and Y. Oh and just because I'm lazy I can't say not you obviously I can't continue to say that but thank you so much for being a fan of the show also want to say a little. Thank you. To Ireland John McCain in Ireland with the the pink Floyd's dark side of the moon. There too. Don't think I notice that Big Pink Floyd Fan Man I. Tell you what if you don't Know Pink Floyd Music and you just WanNa be sometimes I like to be in the dark or like right before a nap which I get many naps lately. Really don't but it's so cool to go ahead and put something like pink floyd on whether it be. Here or dark side of the moon. That's just great. soul-searching music. So a really cool. John McCain thank you so much for checking us out. I am not going to try my Irish accent even though I have been the Ireland nine, hundred, six I marched in the Saint Patrick's Day parade in Dublin and Galway when I was A. I was in high school, my freshman year of high school and the recent high school marching rams had a chance to be in those braids. It was pretty awesome. So. You know. Kissed the Blarney. Stone to. and. That was a really cool thing. So I've been the Ireland, but it's been a long time I gotta get back there. But if I try that accent, you guys are GonNa just crucify me in the live chat, my Australia accent. is a really bad. So I'm not even GonNa try the Irish accent I know. I tell you what if you throw if you guys raise about fifty dollars in the in the super chat, I might give both of them a world by the end of the show. So that's your challenge I know you're not gonNA that up. But if you guys come up with that, I will completely embarrass myself and. I I might even. Sing some U2 and well actually that's not incentive you don't WanNa. Hear me sing but let's get back to the wizard of boss and when I hear what you're saying in the live chat. How excited are you? For Chris Boswell this year. and. Really. The title of this show is how Chris Boswell in the sealer kicking game is going to be even more special in two thousand twenty. So. Here's why. It's going to be even more special. If you remember back in two, thousand, seventeen season. Chris. Boswell. One about. Five or six games. With his leg. Teams like the Green Bay packers with Brett Hundley in there and not Aaron Rodgers. And Brett Hundley was taken into them. And that was even before Shazia went out. But Chris Boswell had a make kicks at the end of that game at the end of a lot of games and if he missed them. That team that was thirteen and three. Could have very easily been seven to nine. That's how important he was that season Mark Davison saying the wizard is cool calm and clutch the three, cs? You know. You know you gotta find another see if there was a bread crumb, an ice tea way back in the eighties and nineties called foresee and it's funny I always I was paid attention to that because it was the official ice tea of the Davis family and I made my family go out and and get that. Mark Davis. Also says the wizards beat the chiefs on his own going six for six in the playoffs in eighteen to sixteen game? No touchdowns it's was all Baas not you obviously says I think Baas. Is GonNa have his best year this year it seems that way that year was behind him. In Baas he just said, Hey, I didn't kick. Well, he never blamed it on an injury and everybody is pretty sure he had an injury. But he never blamed all he said. I'm going to get better have to get better end of story. It was almost like, I mean he was embarrassed to talk about it. I don't think he knew how to talk about it. But he led his foot, do the talking and he came back. He was all heart. He kicked like crazy that year last year. And, if boss was just a little bit better on one of those kicks or if he wasn't hurt that's That's a much better season last year. But imagine the games that they wouldn't have won if Baas wasn't on last year with everything that went wrong Baas and the defense were one of the few things that were right. Send Your Slim I. Just Love Saints Senior Slim Oh. Yeah. I remember that year I was calling for the ball on first down when we would get into range that's I mean and you didn't have to worry about a long kick either sending your slim you didn't. Mark Davison asked. Mark, you have the headphones. Let's let's just put you in the. Let's put you on the show to it could be Davidson Davidson. And? Let's see. Bad and down under. We'll come up with a better team not gonNA come up with better titles that Yeah Baas did throw a touchdown baas threw a touchdown that year probably one of his best plays in two thousand eighteen when he threw a touchdown strike to. Probably one of the biggest receivers to catch a touchdown for the Pittsburgh steelers. I'M GONNA. Unofficially say that that. That touchdown that PAS through against the Denver broncos to all hundred Villanueva was probably the shortest man. Ever to throw a touchdown to the tallest man on the same play. So that's that's what I'm thinking they're too. Unfortunately. That that game up in a loss. But. You were talking about Chris Boswell in how he can be so special for the Pittsburgh steelers this year. I like the look of the steelers special team. But you look at the fact that Baas is going into his six year. He very well could have been an all pro last year with the way that he kicked. Yoke. Mr Justin Tucker. Can't stand the guy just because of the helmet he wears and that's it. But how you would love to have that guy and the steelers were one of the teams that were. Were really high on them and actually. Trying to sign him as a free agent and he went to He was a better fit with Baltimore and he was absolutely amazing but Baas. Could have been selected over Tucker in fact. Pecker have a bad year last year but boss had a better year. But that's that's exactly who. I mean you know pedigree gets you pro bowls in all pros and? You looked. You looked at a guy who had a rough season on our own team work eastbound C. had a rough season last year. He got four all pro votes so and it's funny. Sometimes, reputation can get you approachable which Marquee Scott which I think. Talk as well too but he overlooked a great season by Chris Boswell. Chris Boswell is going to have a lot of opportunities this year too. and. There's going to be plenty of opportunities. I think this team's GonNa score a lot more. He can very well have a norm Johnson type season where he scores hundred and fifty some points remember when norm was doing that in nineteen, ninety, six and nineteen ninety-seven. Man. He was money I. Think is offense is GONNA put up a lot of points, but they're still going to have a lot of field goals because it doesn't matter if you are a team that scores A. You're still going to score a lot with field goals to 'cause you're just in scoring range more you're putting less. You're kicking more. It's a beautiful thing. Send your slim says if I recall his only to Mrs One was bobble snap and a fifty, two yard at home. So yeah, you build me out on that I thought it was like a fifty four yarder and I think it was a fifty four yarder. From. That mistake against the Miami Dolphins and It was pretty rough. It was the weather was was rough off the s Dave Scofield. Who was actually at that game. I think that's that's the one that it was so. Robert Events. Love. Bob Sas. Bob Sas but I would I'd be like, Hey, I'm Bob. SAS was her name. is, really good wouldn't trade him for Tucker. I WANNA trade Boswell for Tucker I would have in two thousand eighteen. I didn't know what? We know now. There's a lot of things in my life that. I wish I. Knew then what I do know now. Man Can you imagine some of the things that? If. You knew. Then what you know now how you would change it, it would completely destroy the space time continuum. So you've gotta be careful on that but. Man. There is a Saturday night live in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, seven that always. I always Remember there was John Larroquette. Who I was just talking to my son about John Lark. The my son's about turned thirteen and he was watching. What was he watching? He was watching the parks and recreation and I heard this voice and it was John Larroquette and I was explaining to him the brilliance of John Larroquette from Night Court from the movie blind date I mean just a brilliant actor and I was telling him about. About night court but he was also on. In, this movie with Kim Bay Singer called blind date. And at the time. So he was he was promoting the movie on Saturday night live and he played a character that in the sketch died. and He. He was at the gates trying to get in and he was talking to Saint Peter and they were saying. They were saying to him. All these things that he didn't know. And he found out all the women that one of the in high school The professional wrestling was actually real and all these secrets of life and so imagine if you knew all that crazy stuff what you could do with it but then you need a time machine map to go back in time and like I said that space time continuum we saw how bad it was in the back to the future I mean dude almost may not with his mom that that's a bad thing. So you don't WanNa go there but anyways, it's Friday, we're having fun. We're talking about the steelers and we're talking about Chris Boswell. How excited are you for? Chris, Boswell. Sean Monahan says best for baas hundred, twelve, hundred, twelve, four, one, hundred, twelve for extra points. No field goals attempted. So could you imagine that? That's one hundred twelve touchdowns scored by the Pittsburgh steelers they're breaking all all type of records of that happens everybody goes to the pro bowl on that. Wow. That would be absolutely amazing. ACQUA NBA wants to see the dog who is barking. Dude. I've got three dachshunds. They're the yappiest things in the world I love them. They're really cool. Now there are the names of the dachshunds they're named after Harry Potter characters but my first dachshunds who lost in the last couple of years one was named Pamela Davis and the other one was Hines Ward Davis and So I just lost out this time. When it was time to rename the. The replacement dogs you can't calm replacement dogs. That's rude. But anyways. They're all family but. We're dachshund family in their completely yappy. They're just singing the song of their people. So anytime, someone moves row. either. They're. Awesome. So. Chris Boswell I want to hear your thoughts in the live chat. Let me know. Let me know what you think and am I off I. Think Chris Boswell is going to win for the Pittsburgh steelers four games this season with his leg alone. Because it doesn't matter how great. The. The offense is. It's GONNA come down to it with there's a lot more parody. In the League but I know. You can call me out on this. Because I said, there's going to be less parody in two, thousand twenty because of Covid, I think there's going to be a lot more foreign twelve teams. I think he's going to be a lot more twelve and four teams and less eight, eight, and seven and nine. So I'm going to continue with that but there's going to be games when the offense. And we haven't really seen Ben Rothlisberger offenses in the last few years. Dominate where they've got twenty point leads to sitting on it. There's a lot of games. So. That's what I'm thinking. It's GONNA come down to Bosley again. But I have complete confidence. So where is your confidence level? As far as Chris Boswell, goes as well and am I just drink in the black and gold kool aid. How cool black and gold colours be. It would him I mean it would just, I. Mean Black and gold colour. Maxim together just like Brown. So maybe that's not a good thing but you know it would taste steely. Good. AJC DID Boswell get high ratings in Madden compared to other kickers. You know what? We have A, we have some guys on the site that do a fantastic job with madden. I, don't follow it. You know why I don't play Madden and it's not because. I'm approaching fifty. It's because. I'd be an addict. I remember when? Super. Bowl was out. Man. I played well, I was I was a bachelor at the time, but I would stay up all night playing my son wanted I mean we were at a target and I think. Patty. Mahomes was on the cover of the new madden and he's like, Hey, we could get it for twenty bucks. You play on my xbox I'm like dude, you would never see your xbox again if I got mad. But, then I'm surfing through facebook the other day. They've got this little device. Now that you could plug into your TV, that's a whole bunch of Nintendo. Super Nintendo Games. In Tech Mobile's on it not just tech mobile not talking Bo Jackson Tech Mobile they showed a little thing I looked up in the corner and Slick Stephen Gostkowski so they've got new players. They have a they have recent players in it now. So it's updated. So I want I get an opportunity to play Ben Rothlisberger on technical. My luck is going to be dot com, but That'd be so cool. So I sent a little. I tag my wife in it. I just wrote hint hint my birthday doesn't enough for a while she's got a gift like that. So I'm hoping I can get that if not. Lunch at you guys could buy it for me and then. But then again, I wouldn't do any podcast because all I would be doing would be playing that. Patty man thinks that. All right I I don't is that a beer hat a frosty mug hat or I can't tell whether he's dressed as the pope in that and that you can't see it if you're streaming. But that is the most awesome hat I love that picture patty man. Patty man is not sold on the wizard of Baas. This year he's Ray finkle material choke choke if you don't know laces out places. Out If, you don't know that who is Ray finkle. For the Miami Dolphins fictionally from the nine, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, four, classic. Ace Ventura pet detective. Ray finkle and Ray finkle had. A bone to pick with Dan Marino luck. This is where the movies fiction you don't have gone. Marino as your place kick holder you're never going to do that, but it's still a fun movie. And I've been kicking around buying the Ray Finkle Jersey 'cause I like. I like crazy jerseys I wanNA Shane Falco Jersey I'm actually wearing. This is not a steelers Jersey. This is A. Steph the Georgia Vich. Jersey, from all the right moves filmed my hometown of. Pennsylvania in nineteen, eighty three and I was actually at the game I was eleven years old watching that in the stands, you can't see my my little face in the stands but it's a lot of fun Patty man says. October fest hat years ago I also wear doors dealers gains. To that's awesome. I disagree with you on the Finkel thing but. Great reference a love it and. That's awesome. John McCain he's going to he's going to rate his players, Tucker Lambeau than Baas. Lambeau I mean that was a guy a couple of years ago. That you really weren't thinking about in the he has really been money as of late so. There we go. Sean Monahan saying lots of heart for Boswell. He does have lots of heart this Texan. He is really special. I really think he's going to make the steelers more special this year and I think he's going to continue to be money. In Two thousand twenty money twenty. I know it's twenty, but money and twenty. That's what I'm saying about Baas. How much is nine worth lots of money in twenty? Gosh, can you imagine if I drank because if I was wearing the hat in October fest with Patty man because I don't drink in this is the reason drink because I'm just a Giddy? Dude? But Man I want to go to October fest with Patti man now. or I want to go to. Main. I really WANNA go to Mardi gras one year, but then might be the last you see of me. Cash. Would that be dangerous if the steelers ever make the Super Bowl again in Louisiana they've been there nine, hundred, seventy, five, nineteen, seventy, four season. But if they were making it again. I need to go I had tickets. To. The Super Bowl after the two thousand and one season and then. Gosh Troy. Edwards, steps out of bounds against the Patriots and the championship game I was there I had takes the Super Bowl. Some butthole when blue and red sat in my seat because they went. there. Just, may October fest is canceled? Everything's canceled but we need you know what we need. We need the NFL season not to be cancelled and keep those fingers crossed. All right with that being said. I'm going to throw. It out the live chat for the next couple of minutes. As we continue on the Friday show. If there's anything that you have to say as we head into the weekend, I would love to hear from you because remember cannot do this show without you guys I'm. Not that I was doing it for the money but nobody through and fifty dollars in the live chat. To See me actually hear me do my Irish accent. So I'm not going to do the Irish accent. I don't even know where I would start. So thank you actually for not. Pygmy money in the live chat, but not a lot of stuff coming in. So let me tell you about what's going on. A BSE the next few days for his podcast go. As I said at the beginning of the show, we will be revamping some things with some personnel changes and tomorrow will be a constant. It's my good friend Tony feel and Tony Deputy will be here with steelers Brunch with twenty. Great musings. So check that out that will be tomorrow right around noon. Then on Sunday. We are going to. Cash I've got to figure out. Sunday. So there's show on Sunday, it'll probably be in the afternoon. I would assume with Michael. Back. But we are going to go ahead and move some things around Monday. You can be back here with. Not The steelers hangover because season other than started yet. But as far as everything else goes. We're going to be contained with the steelers Cuny. I won't be on that show and take a couple of days off get my Huey Lewis on I'm actually not going to see religious but you know I needed a couple of days off. So. What I'll be doing it looks like it may be Dave. Scofield filling in for me as I go ahead and I. Take my boy and the rest of my family away for his thirteenth birthday. Yes. He's becoming teenager the little bad. I'm. Actually, call them see mad because he's Connor Michael Anthony. Davis. So See Mad in water and. And Gosh. Me On a tube in. Whitewater. Probably not the best idea but there you go. Tuesday stat geeks with the Bros. go and then on Wednesday. A yet to be named new show. We're going to have that for you as on the artist formerly known as the standard. We're GONNA come up with something new and then on Thursday the steelers preview as we continue to preview the most. Irreplaceable steeler for each position group. We got a couple of questions I a comment Sean Monahan says we need guys to say healthy no injuries no covert test and will win at all. I like it I think you're right I think it's a possibility. I know I'm a huge homer. But I really think that the planets align just right. Boom raising the trophy. Check this out Kevin Siler who's filling the baron role this year. I still think it's going to be marked Barron. There's something that makes me think that he could still come back. We had some free agent signings this week. When? When the smallwood. He's he's you're running back that it's going to look for a role Curtis Riley the defensive back. They could call baron back I just have that feeling in my gut. Just me says, Jeff is back. Yes. Jeff is back. We're really excited for that. We will be. We will be urging him to rejoin the podcast network. I will say this that you will see jeff again on the steeler preview our flagship show now with Dave Scofield of myself on Thursday nights and we're going to see if we could. Move Jeff some more ideas as well. John McCain says overall special teams Arrow or down I think the arrows up. You know the guy we worry about the most here. Is Jordan Berry from down under. Used to work in a Sydney McDonald's how how cool is that of the late shift at the city? McDonald's I. Bet you that was wild stuff. Okay I'M GONNA. Try It. Could I. Mean. One of them they're mcnuggets made. Okay. That's not even close. But I don't know whether he worked the counter or if he was a fry cook but. Jordan Berry. Lot of people forget he started off really well last year the last quarter of the season probably. Lost his way a little bit more but I mean. Cordless Waldman is going to. He's going to challenge Berry for the role the best punter is going to get that job. Snowman asked is T. J. Watt. Going to get paid next year or in two thousand, twenty one. You have to. He is. I know he's not a quarterback. But. He's the guy that you're going to have to pay. He is the face of the franchise. Sending your slim. Hey, bad. You think Kobe will mysteriously go away after the election. You know that's You know what I'm not a political guy. That's a great question. I really, I. One thing I like to do is I like to keep my politics very close to the vest. A lot of people say that. All's I know is there are reports here and there. I have a I have a son in life that have immunity issues and it's still very much a concern for me If that was a political ploy man I would. I mean. I'd be limited But I don't know. So I'm going to. Fantastic question. I'm just not the guy to ask. Mark Davidson. Yeah. The bloke worked down south in Victoria. Melborn. Really. Interesting I mean. That's really interesting. I mean these guys you gotta understand. These guys are dudes just like us You know it's really cool. You look at a guy that Were number sixty six for the steelers if you watched if you actually don't watch. But if you paid attention to numerous looney or number two uniform in steeler history, sixty, six, Donald Evans took the took a year off in nineteen ninety before coming to the steelers he was working on a loading dock. Then he got back in. and. He was a very important player in that steeler defense. So you know a lot of them, you'll have situations where they're out of the game and are lucky enough to get that break. Some of them are out of the game in never get that callback. We I mean we talk about. Nfl Hall of Famer that was. He was stacking groceries in stocking groceries. That's Kurt Warner so really really. Interesting. Robert SASSA vet. Does Barry Manilow know that you rate his wardrobe. Okay. I love you. Bob Sas you're my buddy I. He has spent manilow right 'cause manilow. Is Awesome. And if you think that be a D- does not know that that quote came from Judd Nelson. In the breakfast? Club. The. Very I spent nine, thousand, nine, hundred ninety eight. On A. On a porch outside of a Gentlemen's Club with. As. He was smoking a cigarette talking about Major League Baseball in one thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, it was it was actually really cool. I had a long conversation about baseball with Judd Nelson huge breakfast club fan huge John Hughes Fan may John Hughes rest in peace but The quote but come on Bob. Sash. You're not going to get you're not going to get a John Hughes nineteen. Eighties, movie reference. Past. Be a the. Lane getting playing time the on the defense. I think Justin Lane. Of course, he's to get back and. Pass the tests. He's going to be back. He's going to be back soon. And I really think Justin Lane. is going to get some opportunities. Here's the thing. You really want to see just lane. You don't WanNa. See last year because that meant that the Nelson floundered and Hayden wasn't worth the money you're one of those guys got hurt. I'm expecting yoke paid and Nelson do have a great season again but just lanes going to get an opportunity he's going to have to battle Cam Sutton. Cam Sutton might be battling Mike Helton as well for play playing the slot but. You know there's there's possibilities that you can see a little bit more from lane I think lane could be a start a starter for the team. But you don't WanNa see a lot of them this year. Maybe, a lot more on special teams. Maybe blowout situations may mean garbage time. That's what I want to see Justin. Lane this year. Mark Davison Mentions Berry. Played for the Australian Football League. The AFL he's done quite well for us. We're proud. Hey, I, like Barry. He's a good dude and. He he had some struggles kicking. He could be worse. Is Myles, Garrett the most hated opponent. Font Hedberg Burford not around. So I. Think. I think myles Garrett is that guy I used to about five years ago now maybe about three years ago I. I had a series where you could vote in of course Birthed one, he was number one with a bullet but I I. I would think that Myles Garrett is probably the number one guy now. Snowman. Gives five dollars to the tip jar. Only forty five to hear me try my Irish accent. Do you think Danny Smith is on the hot seat this year? Yeah. I absolutely do Danny Smith. and. I think Danny. Smith. The Guy who who gave the naked pictures of somebody in the steelers organization to Daniel mccullers because I don't really understand. How he is kept his job I'm sure he's a nice fella and always a pittsburgh native probably a good dude. Just I mean just really really rough. That special teams I really think it could be so much better. I missed the Bobby April days. All right I'm about to be really jealous George test into you meet their hall. Said Daryl Hall was awesome to and I know everybody makes fun of me for my love for John oates and Jeff Hartmann mentions that John oates is the reason the steelers lost against the Jaguars forty five to forty two because he sang the national. Anthem. I'm ever going to forgive Jeff for saying that there are hall I'm a huge Daryl Hall. Fan. So if you met there hall main Gosh I need to see some pictures of that love era hall I got to see hall and oates right before Kovac's probably about two weeks before covid in Hershey Pennsylvania this year I took my son, my twelve year old son. It was absolutely amazing man you met their hall I gotTa hear that story. Send. Your slim. Is it weird that I would rather meet and talk steelers with you bad over any current steeler player you're my favorite. Thank you so much that means a lot. When I do a podcast when you meet me when I find out that your steelers fan I, just WanNa, talk about that stuff because I know how much passion I have for the team and I consider any podcast. I just considered me sitting at a sports bar talking buddies, and that's all it is. You guys are must steelers might be family that's why I love doing this. All I am I'm just some. I'm just some idiot. That has a microphone that has been given a platform. And that's it. Hey, I get. I gotTa do this real quick I'm going to do it. I say this coming up on Tuesday I mentioned this earlier my boy Connor Michael. Anthony Davis is going to turn thirteen and here he is. Here's my best buddy is going to be a teenager. And now she's taking the the headphones from me. So everybody mentioned my main see mad a happy birthday and. Body and I know I'm really loved you go away though. World. steeler. Nation. Not Very Professional. But Hey, I that's what I do. I'm just having fun and you're my steelers family and I wanted to share that with the use of thank you very much. We we had some. We had some TSE birthdays in the last week with family members. Violet scofield turn twelve this week Dave's daughter his wife Janus. I I'm not gonNA say how old she turned because if she's anything like my wife, she'll beat me up. If I mentioned age and Lance Williams daughter turned thirteen as well. Last week. So Lot of a lot of our bts's family members happy birthdays I wanted to mention connor. And You know I appreciate all the love we're getting in in the live chat here. So, anyways, we're GONNA get ready to wrap this all up soon. Mark. Davison wants to twenty twenty one tailgate steelers party. Hey if if we can do that, we're doing it. We're we're going to party like it's Nineteen, seventy nine. Let's see. What do we got here? Robert says its loves the the Breakfast Club. Patty man says I love your podcast especially during dinner sharing by onion rings with the man I. Live in Maryland. And it's my daughter-in-law's birthday this weekend as well. I WANNA shout out to Sydney and So we're going to have we're going to have crab living in Maryland. We're having a crab boil tonight that. I could start smelling it. I mean it I think it's about to arrive. I, hear the family in the background. So cracking some crab tonight. That's great thing about the only good thing live in close to the Ravens I love the state of Maryland. I'm a Pennsylvanian I'm Pennsylvania, born and bred down. In the House but I, love being lender love the crab part I just wish those the. Black and Purple Bruise wasn't wasn't an hour down the road. But I am proud to say that in Jeff Harmon and I share this we were kids field trip are my my daughter and his son. I. Think they were in first grade at the time, and this is when we were just getting to know each other and we're on a school bus and we're going past. MNT Stadium. He's like man every Tomiko past that stadium I flip at the I do too. That's awesome. So I love spreading steeler nation here in a in Maryland and. I definitely do that. Thanks so much. For the happy birthday as mark. Evans. Davison says. We don't care about that was awesome. Snowman turned fifty five, this July fifty, five men I'm close an fifties coming up in two, thousand, twenty, one for me. I can't wait for that. I'm actually excited in it what. See this gray here can't wait I'm ready to go gray I think. You know if a guy could if like a twenty something year old could win American idol Taylor Hicks he was awful but he was completely gray. Can you imagine bad Rock in the gray I can't wait. Till. You scofield release, LA- cracking. I, tell you what? Let's wrap everything up. steeler family lots of great things happening. I really. Appreciate you coming in here my. Family cannot do the show without you. We're going to be making some changes. They're going to be fantastic changes and I can't wait. Spitzer sweet too because once again with. The the man who usually. Has this hour doing? Yeah I. said it. As we're retiree I, said it in Lance has one again Lance Williams. Will Be. Will. Be. Moving on from TSE and we wish him the absolute best. So thank you for everything that you've done behind the still Kurt. My friend. Can't wait to share a Mike with you sometimes down the road and best wishes. My friend also welcome back to one Jefferson Hartman as a mule skinner puts that in the live chat and. You'll also. Says Welcome, back to Jeff. And Take Care let Lance An absolute pleasure. Jeff. Glad to have you back and Mark Mentions Lances awesome. We Love you man. Thank. He's everything that you've done for the show and Mark Davison leaves it with the wizard will lead the steelers. That's what I'm thinking my friends that is definitely what I'm thinking. So four Brian Anthony Davis I'm Brian Anthony Davis, and just when you think you know all the answers to quote the Great Rowdy Roddy Piper, we keep chain in the questions we will see you next time around steeler nation love Ya.

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"You're listening to the briefing first broadcast the nineteenth of March two thousand and twenty on monocle. Twenty four hello and welcome to the briefing coming to you live from studio while near Dory House in London. I'm Andrew Mullah coming up. The vaccine educates the body's immune system. So it can recognize something and that way it produces all of the things. The immune system would produce journey natural infection the search for a vaccine we'll hear from a virologist about the race to beat covert nineteen late in the show. It's a little over a decade since we last saw global markets tanked so spectacularly and during a US presidential election at that. Did we learn anything useful? Also ahead pontificating from home news panel will discuss the latest developments. We'll find out why one sports league has bucked the global trend and cold play on. Hello Monaco's Nick Minnie's and I will be explaining why Australian football is continuing down under and we'll be talking to Greg Jenna about his new book reflecting on the history and meaning of fame. All that coming up right here on the briefing on monocle. Twenty four and welcome to today's edition of the briefing ultimately. It may be that the only way to properly arrest the spread of covert nineteen is with the vaccine is hopefully some consolation right now around the world. Some of the clever people alive are presently working on exactly that the US company Madonna indeed has already begun human trials. The vaccine in Seattle Chris Smith is a virologist at Cambridge University and host of the naked scientists podcast. He spoke to Monaco's Georgina Godwin a bit earlier and started by explaining how the process of making a vaccine generally works the way in which this is approached is first of all you got to understand what does vaccine do vaccine educates the body's immune system so it can recognize something and that way it produces all of the things the immune system would produce journey natural infection. But they're premade and ready to go before you encounter the thing for real so that when you doing council thing for real there. Isn't this catch up. By the immune system. While the disease runs amok the immune system immediately neutralizes the invader so it's all about preparing the immune system. But you've got to do it in the right way by showing the immune system the right bits of the pathogen. One was virus or microorganisms. Some kind and giving it enough time in order to mount that defense. How is this company Medina in Seattle approaching the problem? Well there are lots of different strategies to doing this. And before we talk about Madonna. Perhaps let's consider what Edward Jenner did a couple of hundred two hundred fifty years ago. He took virus in that case He was trying to immunize people against smallpox which was at that time killing a third of the people infected. We're we're worried about this. Corona virus which infects and see which affects a lot of people but kills about one percent of the people in fakes. So you can imagine how worried people were about smallpox. What Jinnah did was to expose people to cowpox which is related virus and because those two viruses look so similar the immune system responded to the cowpox producing factors which worked also against smallpox. You could say. Why don't we just do that? Against this new Kuroda virus because there's a big family viruses out that we've encountered many of them before they're afford that circulate every year in humans we could just borrow one of those couldn't we unfortunately naught because the business end of this virus. What did that she uses to get into the cells in the lungs and give people of our new. Monja is actually unique to this virus. So we've got to make some kind of way of producing the thing that this virus makes to get into ourselves then showing the body how that prepares them. These looks in the body and then make you make a response now. There's a couple of ways of doing that one is you. You just make the protein. The Chemical Varsity is an inject people with that the other which many companies including Madeira exploring. Is You actually take the genetic code for that? Bit of the surface of the virus. And if you inject or in one company. I've been speaking to the next couple of days. This case you actually blow up the nose. The genetic code packaged up cells. Take it up and in the same way that I can take a computer program will fuel computer and my computer will understand if I just say Shalva USB drive in my computer and read the code cells can pick up that piece of code and turn it into a version of the virus would make in the body and so that's what they're doing. They've made their making pieces of genetic information that can be injected. Or you're exposed to cells. Then turn that piece of genetic message into the real deal what the virus would make in the body and that shows the immune system and it looks like and that in turn produces an immune response now of course speed is of the essence. Here aren't necessary. Safety steps being left out in an attempt to to fast track this process. No and that's the one thing that everyone's being emphatic. About safety is key because at the end of the day the reason we're going down this path is we want to keep people safe. That's why we want vaccine so no one wants to be in the unenviable position where you've not just invest is a lot of time and a lot of money. Eagles are taking people's confidence and said we're GONNA sort this out and then you expose them to something that may actually make them worse. Because there's evidence that if you get this wrong and you make the wrong source of immune response in response to your vaccines when people then encounter this for real. They could get a worse infection than if they'd never been vaccinated and that will be a terrible position to be in so everyone is being clear while we rushing to the line to be the first to produce some kind of way of vaccinating people that does not short-circuit shortcut the regulatory processes. So people are still looking at perhaps a year to a year and a half before we got something ready to go and once we have that ready in in a year or year and a half. How quickly could it then? Manufacture to the extent where it would be available in level sufficient to stop the spread of the virus. Will the good thing about this strategy? This being proposed by this other companies. Is that because these short pieces of genetic information or even short bits of protein themselves. They're very easy to make and they're very easy to make massive scale because we already have facilities to do that and do it quickly. Unlike say a flu vaccine the way we make flu. Vaccines is you. Order millions of laboratory grade eggs. And then you in fact those eggs and then you've got to wait for the virus to grow and then extract the virus and clean it up. This would be a lot faster. You can be more agile with this once. We have something. That's safe proven to work and ready to go. Actually the scale up and then the deployment is not. It's not simple but it's easier than it could be so I mean this is quite reassuring we can think the end is in sight. Yeah the the thing is i. Think a lot of people especially this week of have begun to sorta stare the harsh reality in the face especially some of these sanctions and these lockdowns and other maneuvers come into full force the begun to realize that this is not a drill. This is not something to be taken trivial. Look how much this is costing not just this country but many countries look what is going to do to people's lives look what he's GonNa do to their livelihoods. There are many people who you know. That businesses are imploding. As a have a friend who lives in Philadelphia and America. He runs a travel business and He he and I met because he ended up listening to some radio programs. I was making. We started to correspondent a couple of years ago and I got in touch with him and said you know. What are you doing because obviously overnight? The travel industry is completely imploded. And he said you know. I don't know how I'm going to pay my staff this month and that's just one example so the ramifications and repercussions are absolutely huge and. I think this is now really beginning to buy for people so yes I think it will come come as a relief to know that people working on this but I don't think eighteen months is going to be much of a on on the wounds for people at the moment. Because I think they're thinking how am I gonNa get through the next month let alone the next eighteen months. That was Chris. Smith speaking to Georgina Godwin earlier with a look now at the day's headlines here is Monaco's Marcos hippie thanks untrue. The European Central Bank has launched an emergency seven hundred. Fifty billion euros packaged as the impact of the corona virus outbreak. The pandemic emergency purchase BRO CHROME WHEEL BY Company and government debt across the euro zone in a move that reinforces the commitment to the euro. Germany has banned the far right group. United German peoples and tribes and police in ten states raided. The home of twenty one of its most senior burst. The interior minister said this was the first such action against the crew cab with links to network that claims allegiance to the prewar German Reich. Germany is stepping up crackdown on anti Semitic organization after deadly attacks by racist gunmen. And this year's Eurovision Song contest has been cancelled due to the corona virus outbreak. It was scheduled to take place in. Rotterdam and this the first time Eurovision as being cancelled in the events sixty four year history. It is years not confirmed whether vce contestants will be invited back next year those other days headlines. Now back to you Andrew. You're listening to the briefing on monocle. Twenty four now in many respects. It might seem vaguely ridiculous to consider historical precedents for the covert nineteen outbreak. All of us are adjusting to a reality. Which is changing by the hour but in terms of a combination of a sudden jolt to the global financial system and US presidential election. We don't have to go far back. At all. In two thousand eight as Barrack Obama and John McCain vied for the White House. Many of the grander ambitions were spiked by what became known as the global financial crisis which was prompted by a sudden bursting over an over inflated asset bubble. We'll covering both that election and the crisis from Washington. Dc At the time was Monaco's affairs editor Christchurch. Mack who joins me now at? I should specify the very far end of the table here in studio wanted. He's like we are to Prince's at some medieval banquet. Chris how comparable these two financial crises. Are they comparable at all mockby? A better question I think the financial crises are quite comparable. Obviously the cause of them is very very different but what struck me in thinking back to those to those days when I was covering them is there were certain parallels in one of them was That the crisis was not taken particularly serious to begin with and I remember being in the office when for example even the House of Representatives in the US Actually voted down a stimulus package for the US economy in a bail out for the banks That led to a massive tanking of the economy to which they responded realizing. Oh Oh dear. This actually quite serious. Let's approve something to get the economy back up and running and I think in a similar way here we've seen this sort of occasionally slow response to the virus and and now suddenly a severe ramping up by different countries that were not taking it seriously to begin with and the same with economic stimulus packages So there are very similarities. And the other one I would say is on level international cooperation. It was very interesting at the time Because essentially once things got in gear there was a whole new multilateral architecture that was set up at the time and I joined these g twenty meetings in Washington D. C. I in November two thousand eight and then in Pittsburgh and elsewhere and they really actually Beat expectations if you will in showing that the international community could cooperate if if it wanted to And this time I think they're too. We have seen a difference of course that many countries are closing their borders. There's been a struggle to cooperate internationally. But maybe that's now going to be stepped up a little bit. The G twenty is actually meeting. Virtually next week To consider the crisis in what they can do to respond so when might hope that they will be expectations as well. When one looks at the the presidential elections of two thousand eight in two thousand and twenty they do now have at least one similarity in that both Obama and McCain and now trump and probably biden will find themselves unable to make spending promises because everything is going to have to be recalibrated towards addressing. This thing when you think back to two thousand eight how did both bomber and McCain adjust to that well one of the interesting aspects of he compared to this time as well is Back then what I remember was or many people might not remember but actually ahead of the crisis John McCain was leading in the polls Because he had come out of Republican convention and he was actually. He had sort of re energized his base. He was considered a maverick So he was actually doing quite well and when the financial crisis hit not only did it of course impact the Republicans but what was interesting was. Even though Barack Obama was this young inexperienced Senator. At the time he was the one who projects a calm reasoned voice in the crisis compared to John McCain and actually the numbers in terms of which of the two candidates you would trust Flip does the crisis went on and people came to trust Barack Obama more than they did. The very experience lion of the Senate in John McCain So I think that is a lesson this time as well. We'd in this case of course have very experienced candidate and say Joe Biden versus Donald Trump. If that's the case Joe Biden has predicted very much confidence. That has helped him against Bernie Sanders quiet confidence in this crisis. The only thing that I'd say is interesting and different is the crisis is happening earlier here. So of course The crisis was still going on November. Two Thousand Eight. And so yeah. I was covering both rallies and g twenty summits at the same time and people were very worried at exactly the moment of the election and wanted to punish Republicans for it in this case. It's so hard to predict with this new cycle. And what's been happening with the virus where we're going to be in November? If Donald Trump has managed to The administration has managed to get this crisis somewhat under control. Perhaps he gets a boon from that. That question you raise right there or that factor of Public Anger D. Had very early days but how different might that be because in two thousand eight even though I think a lot of people myself not excluded were baffled by the intricacies of what had happened? In by the sums of money involved there was a general perception that yeah a bunch of crooked and greedy bankers had been allowed to get away with too much too long and they had pulled the whole thing down through Hubris and greed and if that's the narrative that takes hold and that's obviously going to play badly probably for more conservative parties but in this particular case it's who do you get angry with. You can't really get angry with a virus. It's just doing what viruses do. How could that possibly end up being affected? Do you think it's a very good point because I do remember very well in the financial crisis one as you say It was a crazy time for us. Journalists because many of us were frankly not economic experts and was a hard thing to explain I had to learn about securities and all of these different issues mortgages subprime mortgages and various things and try to explain I to the public. What was even happening In this case yes the virus is something. That's a little bit easier to explain. People have an understanding of it And yes it is harder to blame anyone individually compared to back then win the Republicans were very much blamed for for getting us into an economic crisis as the perception was Having said that I think you can certainly be evaluated on your response And that's perhaps a flipped back then when the response was quite robust by the Bush administration. But they didn't They were blamed still for creating the crisis in the first place. In this case I think the measurement for politics will be. How has the trump administration responded? Are People happy and comforted by what he does in the next few months to get this under control Chris Tomac? Thanks for joining us. You're listening to the briefing monocle. Twenty four they will be more on the financial aspects of this crisis on Saturdays addition of the foreign desk at midday London time. You're listening to the briefing weighing in at almost four hundred pages. The medical guide cozy homes is packed with everything. You need to know about making a great place to live. The book is filled with handsome residences. And all the contact. You need to make a home. Will last a lifetime and celebrates. The people know homes to be able to cope with kids. Dogs scuff marks to book. Knows a home Tony as good as a community? It's in the book. It takes you through the front doors of everything from mountain hideaways to modernise towns so cozy bio copy today on cu dot com You're listening to the briefing with me and Ramallah time now to take a longer look at the day's big stories with our news panel. Which today is the journalist? Mary Digest Ski. And Stephanie. Balls in London correspondent for developed both joining me not in the studio but as disembodied voices in my head We will start as we may be for some while with the obvious. Among the many areas of endeavour which will be affected by the covert nineteen outbreak. Is that of geopolitics though. Exactly how of course remains to be seen one looming potential crunch point is one of the worst affected countries. Iran where tackling the pandemic has not been made easier by the sanctions imposed on the country by the United States and other countries in an effort to curb the Tehran regime's behavior on a number of fronts. Mary first of all is too simplistic a response to say. The time is now to end all sanctions and let Iran access. Whatever help it can however it can when it probably depends on your judgment off won't Iran is about what the situation in Iran actually is. My view would be absolutely that. This is really heaven-sent opportunity For a rapprochement between the US and Iran that just been impossible largely because of US intransigence. Ever since the hostage crisis ever since the Iranian Revolution But it seems that The trump administration is responding in completely the opposite way to reinforce sanctions Which are putting Iran in dust. Date of medical deprivation and properly or mentoring the crisis which could in turn Lead to instability in Iran. Which would not be to America's advantage or anybody else's Stephanie. Is there an argument for that? Same question put the other way not so much. Should we just forget how Iran is behaving and help it out or should the argument? Now be put to Tehran's regime. What's actually more important to you if you stop doing what we want you to stop doing. Then you'll get all the ag like well it's first of all it's going to be very difficult to control if Iran is really a complying with what What they see three countries or the US wants to stop any work on On a nuclear bomb to be very simplistic but I think as just said they is the question whether there could be a kind of clever sanction regime which looks at the very dire situation of probably thousands of debts already in Iran because of the corona virus and sure that the supply chains for medication. For what is needed in this message. House crisis will be maintained and that would be then also Strengthen the moderate sources in Iran because I also think if this crisis gets even worse that will only play into the hands of the hardliners in Iran. Mary would these arguments are indeed? Are these arguments? I need different. If applied to the robust of the world rogue regimes a North Korea. We have as usual almost no idea what's actually happening with this. In North Korea bit it would be a considerable surprise to discover that they have escaped it entirely. Should it become clear that North Korea needs massive? Help should be provided. No questions asked well. I think one of the really interesting things is that you know if we were talking about this site. Two years ago North Korea would be treated as a threat to world. Peace as you know rogue state. It pissed me off All those things and the idea off Giving any sort of medical or emergency helped North Korea really wouldn't it would probably hardly have come above the parapet Today I think that the the position of North Korea had completely changed. I mean even though people talk about you know the the been entirely confirmed reports that Iran has been testing Its nuclear capability in the not too distant past nonetheless since the rapprochement with with the US initiated by Donald Trump North Korea has never seemed like that sort of threat on that sort of scale again so on the one hand I think it's entirely plausible That countries generally Including the United States might indeed of assistance to North Korea at the same time. It's not closed as it used to be. And it's not without Even behind the scenes communications. Which before completely lacking Stephanie. Is it possible that we're going to see? And I think we're seeing some of this already. A bit of an uptick in what you might call. Countries combining compassion with cynicism as in using. I'd as a means of delivering Realpolitik outreach thinking particularly of China which has made something of a show of delivering supplies to Italy and Serbia among others. Yeah that's definitely something that is for the Europeans especially for the European Commission. That is trying to coordinate the solidarity among the twenty seven member states but it is seeing that most member states now Almost exclusively looking at their own needs and therefore countries such as Serbia or indeed. Italy have now received help from China and of course people will always remember that people in the catastrophic situation of needing the most The most fundamental equipment that this will not come from their neighbors in Germany or their neighbors in in Austria or wherever but this is coming from China and of course this is This will have a long-term effect and it's not nothing in a way. It's nothing new because China has been very very good Spreading influence in all over the European Union obviously in other continents even much more especially in Africa but there is It is a tricky challenge for the Europeans. Not on the one hand. Well if you don't give help to your neighbor countries you. You can't be surprised that they're taking it from others so I think that it's now a bit more. Yeah push full coordination on the highest levels in Europe to show European solidarity again. Well let's move along somewhat and look at another issue which seemed all consuming really not that long ago but which has been bumped several hundred rungs down the ladder of importance brexit which you may recall being older age circa two thousand sixteen to two thousand nineteen the UK left the EU at the end of January seven weeks and several political epochs ago and he's Ju- to exit the present transition period at the end of December prime minister. Boris Johnson. Has Thus far swatted aside questions about extending that transition period a decision which must be made by June Stephanie. Realistically is that even a question right now. There is absolutely no way. This transitions not going to be extended. Is there well I. I can't answer that question. The only person who can answer that is Boris Johnson. And last last night at the press conference he was asked about that again and he He he again. Yeah Very Ah. He avoided answering it. But as we heard this morning. Michelle Baena the chief for the BREXIT talks. He is positive has been tested positive for corona virus. So you might also think just on the grounds of who is going to do the work. They have been negotiating with a hundred people on both sides. Have to physically meeting Just a bit less than two weeks ago in Brussels. They were going to be actually today in London from from yesterday. That was concert of course So a lot of people might just fill fall ill. and then. I think we have no idea. We have really thinking from day to day. We are kind of processing some day to day dimension of the Corona virus crisis. I cannot imagine that by June when we are maybe behind the worst-affected people will say well. Now we take a second hit and go for a no deal because the company a negotiation finished by the end of the year. So let's go no deal. I I duNNo. It's I can't imagine about well. I'll support a strong Mary. I may be becoming mildly crazed with counter. Intuitive optimism on this but it does strike me at least that the politics of this by which. I mean extending the transition would not be terribly difficult to manage if Boris Johnson were to announce later today. Look all things considered. I think we've got more pressing concerns. Brexit's going to have to be punted by a year at least would anybody by a few absolutely irreconcilable head bangers care well. I'm not entirely sure about that. I mean in principle. I agree with you. I think that In many ways The emergency has provided cover for an awful lot of policy changes And delaying the finality. Brexit could be one of them But I have to say that I was In capacity of reporter of course rather than any other capacity At the annual conference of the Bruce Group which are the extreme brexit tears A couple of weeks ago in London and the the interesting thing about that was that on the one hand. They seemed quite relaxed and confident The brexit was going to happen and therefore they won and I came away with the impression that they weren't really going to quibble very much about the small print of any agreement. They were now confident that it was all over No I think that if there were any suggestion. Any Question. Mock no necessarily over the timetable But over the actual fact of Brexit. I think you might find a resurgence of the Brexit is quite quickly and the last thing Boris Johnson needs even with his huge majority in the House of Commons. The last thing he needs is the possibility of an internal revolt that could That could increase quite quickly if it were suddenly felt that Brexit was endanger Stephanie. Have you made of Boris Johnson's handling and communications of this? So far he he. I mean any national leader right now is in an extraordinary position but Boris Johnson. It strikes me as slightly more so having made his name and made his reputation as a fundamentally unserious person He finds himself doing an extremely serious job at an extremely serious time while he he definitely is sending the worst crisis since Winston Churchill which was the Second World War and the tech of German the the rates of Germany on on London Hitler Hitler Hitler's Germany. I mean He. Of course he manages that well Every day the press conferences. That trying to be very transparent. But I think I mean if you if you look at Italy if you look at Spain Belgium my country Germany. The measures taken Assam more draconic. They are far more drastic. There is much more interference. In everyday life. People are not allowed to leave their homes in millions of people and he and the UK life is still going on. The schools are still not closed. And of course in in hindsight there will be a very very massive question for the government if they were too slow and if they got the wrong strategy because they said we must Try to mitigate this and they did a turnaround last Monday and set. No people over seventy have to stay at home. People with preconditions are not healthy But Miami my fear is that this was far too late far too little too late. We'll finally on today's news. Panel as more and more people become resigned to the prospect of a long stretch at home greater and greater strain has been placed on food retailers and the people who work in them who we should be making extra efforts to be polite to it has been noted however in London and elsewhere that while the shows of the big high-street supermarkets of being picked clean. Local shops. Seem amply stocked. Is this perhaps a time to think local like we're to have a choice and Mary? What has been your experience of that so far that that has just been mine where I live enlighten stone in east London There's barely anything in the big TESCO. But the small of the shop. You go to the best stocked. It seems to be well. I live right in the center of London. So there's actually only around me some small chain supermarkets and a few corner shops and I have to say that for the last week I've avoided going into either of them Really in the hope that lever to week maybe people get over panic. Buying maybe things will return to the shops But I'm also slightly Well I can't say on the one horrified On the other hand not surprised The ship taken a very sort of high minded attitude to themselves and about how they respond in crises. And they've given the impression going back to the blitz spirit and all that That EVERYBODY IN CRISIS EVERYBODY. British behaves in an absolutely perfect and commendable way and suddenly we see that this is actually not so The British are is prone to panic buying perhaps even more so Than Lots of other people. My sister lives in the south of Italy. She says that's been No panic buying with speaking of Down there and yet you look at all. The pictures of completely empty shelves You look what people are taking away from big supermarkets and you know the British are not immune to alarm and panic. Stephanie is there strikes me that there's a jewel imperative now forest to make an effort with with local shops local. Whatever else is going to be permitted to remain open? One is because it might actually be better for us in. They might actually turns out to be more available in the shop up the street rather than the big supermarket several blocks away but the other thing is those of the businesses that are going to struggle the hardest to come out the other side of this now does seem like a good time to support whatever is on now high street that we would still like to have on their street this time next year. Doesn't it well? It will very much depend. Also how strong curfew and I'm quite sure there will be a curfew at some point. How how strict it really will be done. I mean The the the truth is that actually the local shops where eyeless in an eating. They are very well stocked. I have seen a Monday morning. I went to the local Saints Period. Big Supermarket And Dad the shells were actually empty. So I do not panic at all but of course I I admit I go into a supermarket shelves empty. I get a bit of a. I got a bit nervous about it but there is no reason to think that we will not have enough supplies. Sometimes for a couple of days you will not get your favorite pasta by. There are worse things. I think that If we can we should support also local delivery restaurants takeaways But my fear is that at some point people will simply not have the money anymore to pay a takeaway deliveries and sorry. I'm just extraordinarily pessimistic. I see that a lot of people will be very Hicks. Hit Very Badly Stephanie. Balls and Meredith. Jessica thank you both very much for joining us. You are listening to the briefing. You're listening to the briefing with me and Ramallah. It is very far from the most crucial structure imposed on our lives by cove. Nineteen but it's also arguably the one which best illustrates how weird things have suddenly become. There is almost no sport around the world. Almost every competition that was in play has been suspended and almost everything that was planned has been postponed. There is one significant dissenter however the Australian football league the top flight competition of Australian rules football and one of the half dozen best attended. Sporting Leagues on Earth launched. Its Two thousand twenty season as planned within the last few hours although almost the only thing about it. That seem normal. Was that Kelton. Got Belted by Richmond if by less than perhaps generally anticipated one joined with more on this by my fellow. Australian Monaco's Nick Minnie's who is generally tolerable company for a West Coast Eagles Fan and is wearing his scarf. I wished to make that clear to our listeners. He's setup at the other foreign of our Studio One table wearing his stupid blue and yellow scarf with the stupid cartoon. Eagle on it Nick I'm very tempted to spend the next seven minutes. Talking about LAS preliminary final but Wasn't preliminary was when which was Gelo tip. You'LL REMEMBER MIND. Memory cuts off after we won the premiership in twenty. I have a very distinct memory of Jilani ending west coast season last year but but more importantly the AFL deciding to crack on wall almost every other sports league on earth has not. Why did they do that? They I mean I haven't given this specific raisin other than perhaps I guess to push forward and keep their commitments to both the players. I mean percent of players In a survey by the Players Association said that I wanted to continue playing And the League itself I think acknowledged the importance of keeping the league going if the fact that I had to make a few tweaks to ensure the safety of the players at least for the time being. It wasn't the usual opening day game in seasons. It has started with Richmond verses called at the Melbourne cricket ground at holds a hundred thousand people when full it usually holds. Its usually sixty five. Seventy thousand turn up on opening day. I mean this is Christmas in Melbourne. The first is the football season wasn't like that today was no certainly not. So so I guess. The measure of the legs in implemented and introduced. I mean for starters There's there's absolutely no crowds. That was decided weeks and weeks ago. following a directive from the government with with no gatherings of more than one hundred people But that also reduced The length the quotas. They're gone from twenty minute quarters to sixteen minutes so significantly reduced the the length of the actual game and also reduced the length of the season to seventeen rounds down from twenty three to sort of give them a little bit of flexibility to respond to any sorts of Changes and and it's funny that you mention one hundred people would there for the last game of the season last year. So one hundred thousand people there for the Grand Final Zero Day today in the exact same stadium there. There's a player who made his debut on Alaska so he's first game of football was with one hundred thousand people and his second game of Football. Marlin ticket today was to an attendance absolutely zero. That would he has. He has had quite the disorienting Royd. that one. What's your sense of how this is playing with our fellow. Australians I mean obviously sport is a huge deal in Australia possibly even more so than in most places. Football is obviously a huge deal People going to be glad and happy its own or I'm reminded of the arguments that attended continuing the game during the world wars. There was some people that we thought it was really important for sort of morale and social cohesion and others who thought it was You know frivolous and decadent and this time there is of course the health risks which must be attendant on playing a game which is risky enough to one's health at the best of times. Yes certainly I mean I think I think it's actually good I I I do think it's a good thing and the NFL is being very clear. The strength or league is being very clear that they have been following the direction of the state and federal health ministers and chief medical offices Never been talking directly with governments and and I've got the go-ahead from from all of those parties And the also said that is soon as one of the players and testing but as soon as wanted applies or an official or a staff member test. Positive four covert nineteen. They will postpone Postpone the the League and Coming Games? Which is why they have short in the season to give themselves some flexibility there but I think I think ultimately it has been a really good thing. We've seen an outpouring of people I mean. Obviously they can't be there in person but certainly across social media today I've been sharing photos of them watching on families. You know it's still decked out in their scarves Look much like my title yellow and Blue One and wearing right. Now we'll repeat just before we conclude this discussion the offer. I made on social media earlier. If you're looking for a sport to get into people seriously now it'd be the time if you tweet it a with a list of the qualities that you value in football club perhaps ones that are attended upon whichever team you follow. Now Pick your team and give you something to cheer for over what we hope of the coming months. Nick Minnie's thank you of course for joining us. You are listening to the briefing. You're listening to the briefing Time now to get a look at the latest business headlines. I'm joined as usual by Bloomberg's UN pots units all starting to kick off a bit in the currency markets. Now within the last hour. You said that he won't stop travel into all out of London. This will come as some relief in the world's most important trading hub for foreign exchange London as at the center of this massive market and we talked a lot about The big scene in the stock market also under pressure the Foreign Exchange Market. Well the biggest market by some distance six point six trillion dollars a day changing hands on the currency markets out. Of course it affects State they live So many things that cost the economy. Now yes they are pretty brutal market on a pretty day on the markets with liquidity. Drawing up nobody's everybody wants dollars at the moment because when markets are under pressure when there was around the. Nice certainly the case the moment people moved to safety and in currency That is all about moving into the dollar. So we've seen old currencies across the ball dropping against the dollar In the last few days the dollar index actually at a record high the moment yesterday saw the pound these as much as five percent and the dollar falling eight slowest level since nineteen eighty five in the region kroner. Nothing more than thirteen percent just yesterday so some pretty big moves on funny strange of the moment and we also have some early data from the US jobs market for all the US. That's likely to be to us this time next week. Yes it's really not looking very spoken. Monica before about some speculation as to what the effect on the actual call me would be vis Increasing threats And these numbers are looking pretty terrible so the US jobless claims was coming around about Two hundred thousand a week in recent months goes to the US companies being very strong In the last few years so right back in two hundred thousand across the entire economy. We had a couple of numbers out of States in the last few days Ohio. Not a big state said. It's almost seventy eight thousand applicants in the post three days Connecticut another small state says it seeing about thirty thousand jobless claims just in the last week. That's about ten times the week he told so an Illinois also the claims coming in about ten times they might have expected. I've seen about four thousand claims in the last two days So speculation number. See next week could be perhaps If it ten times as many as we usually see the house could be too. Many people Flaming job making jobless claims next week. That would be a pretty startling number so watch out for that next week. You in parts. Thanks as always for joining us. You are listening to the briefing monocle. Twenty four you are listening to the briefing with me Andrew Miller. It's time now to take a look at the morning newspapers. I'm joined by manacles. Fernando Augusta Per Sheku which is usually acute. We'll be looking at the morning newspapers from Latin America so far at least Fernando. I'm sure the contagion in the global economy is making a difference in Latin America but the actual contagion causing that so far not so much or do we just not know enough yet. We do know enough yet and actually a number climbing quite rapidly in Brazil as well and and as you can see on the front page of s three newspaper You know I it's ridiculous Image of rateable tonight when he was giving a press conference yesterday. Apparently doesn't know how to wear the protect the protective mask But basically the same joke. The headline is it's about time to open his eyes. You know because the way he's dealing with. This crisis is very clunky Only yesterday he's basically saying that his health minister is wrong He said you know. I believe it's his birthday coming soon to a party. And he wants to travel his encouraging more protests in the streets. Four his For his government. So it's it's really strange gender because you know you see all leaders from left and right so it's not a question about you know your political ideology. It's it's the image chosen there. It is President Bolsonaro failing to wear a surgical mask correctly. Indeed he's got it over his is you don't need to to To intimate appreciator of subtext to see what they're doing there but I don't know it. It strikes me that this is a global phenomenon as well that we. We're going to see quite a lot of populous leaders who've just always assumed that they're a simple explanations and simple solutions for everything running up against you know reality but you know. But he's losing support even among his base. You know because people do care about health but on a more positive note to have fully some Paulo here with me. The city of some Paul. I think he's doing a good job. Of course we have governors and mayors. The Mayor Bruna covers He's thinking is very seriously closing closing down. Most shopping centers have been talking to my family and friends. It's been quite strict. A perhaps not as strict as some European countries but they're taking very effective measures but again this is Brazil. You know have so many states. It is a bit. Decentralized is a little bit like the United States so in a way almost every state is doing a different approach So you know we have to wait and see but it's good to see that there are some people that are being more measured During this crisis as well but I guess Latin America at least has more examples of what to do and what not to do from the rest of the world than the rest of the world so far has it has to be hoped they can use those lessons usefully and finally. I must mention this. I chose a Dutch newspaper. The folks grant and yes. My Dutch is not as good as as you can imagine. Is this Eurovision story from your vision and a need to plug in. I mean I in your role as you revision desks chief. Obviously these extremely trying times here because your vision of course is not happening this year. First Time in sixty four years that the events not happening I. It's remarkable I. I I believe the event will remain Rotterdam next year and they decided to can so so because there was a talk that would be event without an audience. I don't think they wanted that So we don't always act from zero. We'll we'll we'll go ahead for next year. There's lots to be discussed but Andrew. You know we still going to have our chats and maybe people should listen to the show tomorrow as well. Not really any are. We Are we there. Fernando bracing our listeners. Who are worried enough as it is. I will remind you that. Tomorrow's global countdown is going to be Eurovision themed. You know maybe. Maybe you're right. I don't like spoilers Andrew. I don't see how any of this is helping check. Thank you as always for joining us. We will speak roughly at this time in twenty four hours. You are listening to the briefing on monocle. Twenty four You're listening to the briefing with me. Andrew Moolah. The law of Supply and demand operates on the fundamental principle that a given thing becomes more valuable. The less of it the is in our time. However one commodity in particular has detached itself from Com- completely from this dynamic fame. There are more famous people now than they ever have been before and the bar to becoming any kind of celebrity seems to have been loaded so far that anyone willing to make a big enough nuisance of themselves can step over it yet famous people dominate our culture and more recently and ruinously politics. If you're wondering how we got here you will not read a finer or funnier. Primer than dead famous. An unexpected history of celebrity from Bronze Age to Silverscreen by Greg Jenner. A historian of no small renown himself. Greg joins me now. Regrettably not in the studio but such are these times Greg first of all to elaborate on my hastily constructed thesis about supply and demand there. Why don't we just get sick of famous people? Why is the demand apparently insatiable well? That's a good question of what do we get out of celebrity to be care? I mean the truth is is that celebrity is a is an industry. It's an industrial complex designed to produce constant novelty. So it's giving us always new. Things are always happening every day. There are new things new people new celebrities new scandals but also Research Books Up to me four years to write it that she and I went through a large change in opinion as where I began to our ended up I ended up finding celebrity to be very powerful and important in shaping an awful lot of conversations about ethics and morals and kind of society. We want to be who we want to be as individuals and celebrities often form Quite a useful Sort of buffer. I guess But also in other ways they are exploratory. They are pioneers they push against the boundaries. They transgress And we either decide that. They've moved things on in a positive way and decided to change the rules of society. All we get upset with them and we punish them and cancel berm and yell at them and throw things at them so one of the things. I guess that's really interesting about celebrities that is really fundamental to who we are as people as a modern society and as a historian. I've tracked that back to the early seventeen hundreds. That's what struck me reading the book. Was You do talk about how celebrity itself? How fame itself has evolved and changed but is it fair to say you came round to the idea that what hasn't evolved or changed is what we want from. It is there. Is there something fundamental and constant about our desire to have people we can talk about? Yeah never really is. I think The word Feign for example comes from the Latin word farmer a FAM A. Which was the name of a goddess in particularly in Roman Culture And the poet Virgil talks about former but he talks about her as a monster. She this giant winged based WHO's covered in eyes and mouths and tongues and she never sleeps and her name. Pharma derives from the Latin verb fiery meaning to speak or to talk about so this idea of famous monster. That hunts you. Down is actually linked to the verb to speak to rumor to gossip to chat about and I think you know this is two thousand years ago. People Were Gossiping and rumoring even back then back in the Bronze Age and I think what we see now is is a kind of hyper inflated Technologically supported world. Where you know we can have so many celebrities in all sorts of different media and the technology of the Internet's and and you know I'm speaking to you right now. If the sky which is an amazing miracle of technology These things allows to have way more celebrities but the instincts to gossip about you know more. Glamorous neighbours if you want to call them that you know. The celebrities are kind of some sort of psychologists have said. Well are they a bit like Alpha males chimps and on primates is a kind of a some sort of instinctual biological thing and other sociologists said. Now it's it's a religious thing celebrities. Come from our instincts to worship things. I'm not sure I agree with either argument. I think we have always wanted to gossip about other people. Because we are social beings and celebrities allow us to enjoy being both snarky in rude about strangers and also enjoy wanting to emulate them and admire them and fancy them so I think there's a real innate desire that but societies over the past three hundred years have tried to harness that and capitalize on it and make money from it. I worry somewhat making dead. Famous sound like this densely argued philosophical tract and it has elements of that. But it's mostly not that it's mostly actually an unmitigated hoot. It's genuinely good fun to read and it sounds and I always mean this is a compliment like it was fun to write for all the all the time and headache that went into it but all of the characters that you dredged up from. I Guess Finds Primeval Years. Was there anyone else there. Anyone in particular that you you developed a special affection for yes. There really was A. I mean my favorite celebrity from history. The chaptered Edmund Kean Shakespearean Suspicion. You mentioned him with. He's just my obsolete favor he He came to fame about two hundred years ago in eighteen fourteen and his stories absent extraordinary he was he's the classic tale of rags to riches he goes from being completely wondering useless. Alcoholics are up to being the most famous person in the country in the space of about a month He has a revelatory moment where he gets on stage does performance and by the end of the night people in London are just obsessed with him and he's this incredible character because on the one hand he's brilliant. He's a genius. He changes acting and still to this day. Modern actors learn about him in acting school but he was also a terrible person. Horrible problematic foxy I went to swear on your show but like just imagine the kind of epithets I might use the describe this person. He really was awful to his wife his son to his friends. His Co workers and colleagues. He used to get his buddies together to go and boo any other actor that he hated or had a rivalry which is a lot of actors. he was nearly shot by his friend because he was having an affair with his friend's wife when he got to America. He was on the first ever celebrities to tour America. He went at twice in one thousand. Nine hundred seventy second tool the people of Boston trying to kill him Five thousand people stormed the ripped down. The list mashed adores and tried to him because he was such a just diva horrible guy and I saw fruitful him because From a distance of two hundred years I I kind of feel sorry for him because he had a very sad childhood but he was this problematic genius. We have them in our society. We have these great geniuses Kanye West People. We can have got what that great empty talented. They are pioneers but they also have these very difficult allies in these opinions. We wish they didn't. Yeah so keen for me. Is someone that I sort of have a strange fondness for but if I'd actually met it it would have been awful. Finally and very quickly. You are far from unheard of yourself as your own experience of being informed the book at all a little bit. I mean I. I am not a celebrity and I would absolutely hate to be a celebrity and I'm treading very carefully here my language because I feel I feel even the idea of being known because that's not really my show not something I've wanted to be honest I've ended up being a podcast host Kind of because it's fun to do but I never really wanted to be in the limelight. But yes I worked in a t shy kid I still do. Actually at show for children could horrible histories and I had some fans a few years back hoover little bit overzealous and they got a little bit too interested in my personal life and you know it got bit wearing a bit creepy and for a couple of days. I had the experience of what it must be like to be a celebrity and I really did not enjoy the tour. I ended up having to phone the police so I I think having written this book I changed a lot of mind quite a lot actually about a lot of things but one of the things that I did actually know going in that to be in the public eye and I work with lots of famous people you know in the TV the street. I am around lots of things we will have to leave it there. Thank you for joining Ted famous published by. Wfan that's all. The briefing was produced by Marcus Hippie. Augusta much lower in Ulan govern research by Charlie Germany metal and Paula. Donell studio manager. Steph trump. Go I'm Andrew Miller. Thanks for listening.

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Friday 20 March

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Friday 20 March

"You're listening to the briefing first broadcast on the twentieth of March. Two Thousand Twenty on monocle. Twenty four hello and welcome to the briefing coming to you live from studio while. I'm here Midori House in London. I'm Andrew Miller coming up. This is a moment. We need to make tough decisions. This is a moment where we need some straight talk and we need to tell people the truth. California's Governor Gavin newsom employs people to stay at home. Is it time for everyone? Except key. Workers to go into lockdown also ahead. We'll ask the security expert. Paul Rogers what role our armed forces might be able to play in helping slow the spread of the Corona virus plus. We'll look at how governments can or should respond look back on an extraordinary week in the news and then a bit of light relief. Hello I'm Fiona by share quench the global countdown. We'll be looking at. Who are actually the favorites to win on this year's Eurovision Song contest which had to be canceled? Unfortunately that's all coming up right here on the briefing on monocle. Twenty four and welcome to today's edition of the briefing with me. Andrew Mullah. The world has never known a week quite liked. Today's briefing will mostly be an extended reflection on what we understand so far about what the covert nineteen outbreak has done to pretty much everything. We took for granted as recently as seventy three days ago when Chinese scientists identified a new type of corona virus on joined first of all from Monaco Zurich Bureau by registering chief. Tyler burly a tyler. It is hard to know where to start so apologies if this is a by definition silly question but is it possible to some this week up on one side. How much time do we have Maybe or it's just It's really just summed up by by the the single story But I think if I can maybe take sort of three elements From a Andrew One is we've seen and particularly given your other beat which of course is Wearing your foreign desk hat. That's if we look from a European perspective you know I'm sitting in the heart or standing actually at this at this radio table standing in the heart of Europe and I think if we look at the EU story if we look at Schengen And if we just look at Europe as we know that there is not one joined up set of measures and so it's just been interesting to look at what locked down measures being Looking at supply chain On the other side even just the tone And and the style of Presentation. And so there's there's been so many different levels of leadership which should be expected but I think what we think about. Certainly the certainly The the EU project that we would have thought that things would have been a little bore little more knitted together and a little more line. I think the second thing That we see this week is again from an and you're sitting right now is is really how the UK Is is really a little bit out on its own. I think it's been fascinating. Just watching. What had been the lead story's in other countries and a lot of people have been looking at at London and the UK saying you know why are they following this policy right or wrong But you're wise the UK being so slow to to react. I think that it's it's amazing that whether you've been looking at German papers or or Italian papers allies have been what's going on in the UK. And I think the third thing to some this this week up is I'm not convinced that every we've you and I've talked about this topic before over the years the world of sort of telecommuting and homeworking lovely concept. Great sort of maybe sort of cut down on your your office in Real Estate Bill. I'm not sure everyone's up for it. That's obviously one of many adjustments. We're going to have to be making. I just wanted to pick up on the thing you said about tone Governments employers every body in any position of responsibility for anybody else has to negotiate that balance now between telling people what the facts actually are and of course avoiding panic which in this as in all circumstances will just make things worse when you look around the continent from Zurich. Does it strike you that any national business leader is does seem to be finding the right tone? No I I. It's of course everyone has different Of course different circumstances levels of infection treatment and obviously the resources to deal with it we I would say here In in Switzerland the Federal Council and of course for those who aren't familiar Switzerland's a very different system. Switzerland almost works like a company board that you have seven people who are ultimately leading the country. you have a rotation of his president hears this real sense of stability which as a somewhat newcomer the country. I've enjoyed watching how that works and they were. I think they're on the back foot. Maybe two weeks ago you saw then Really the government. Step up at at the start of this week. I think there was a great level of leadership and dialogue. And and how they run their press conferences so I've and and I think again they haven't done too badly here for the moment and we'll see we might revisit this by the end of the day or certainly tomorrow We're waiting for the Federal Council to speak here of there has been some discussions. Go On and burn right now Andrew Do they go to next stage of lockdown? Because right now grocery stores are open. If I'm getting my bikes repaired As long as they don't go into the Shaw leave your bike outside. So anything revolves wrote essential services. I E telecoms Certainly Transport And then daily daily essential needs. All of the wind. Delivery shops are open. You'll be happy to hear A as well all of that song she now do. We go to the next stage Where there will be a little bit more shutdown that people have to remain on the terraces. Let's let's see on in in that. Discussion is happening Some of the Federal Council members Very much for maintaining it as it is because some are saying that. Look at you know at least bit. Incomplete lockdown and we might have had a slight slowdown. It really hasn't helped because obviously the rate of infection was so rampant before they did anything so this is this balance of being in a liberal democracy And and this country of course very much for being about direct democracy How much can you lock things down? And and for how long the one smart thing though I think is interesting. This semi locked down here goes right up until the nineteenth of April So I think psychologically people already know they're in it for the long haul. I think the challenges if you are France or Italy this two three weeks period that we've been hearing for certain countries then when they go and extend it for another four weeks As might well happen I think then you have some some real Mental Health Issues That arise after that. What's been your sense. So far of how meteoroid organizations of which of course we are one are adjusting to this. It is obviously a massive story It is going to drive enormous audiences potentially to meteoroid ortganizations as they are the try to find out what's happening or just find a way of filling suddenly very long and empty as but of course meteorology will have to do that with constraints on their resources and obvious constraints on where they can send people know for sure. And I think there's there's so many levels to that story Andrew because on on one side just now we saw that One of the biggest Private media companies in Switzerland has applied for. What could it's Autobytel? I mean this is sort of a a an employee Government Relief Program that the government will go and back salaries up to eighty percent for fix period rough roughly ninety days And that's that's that's significant. Move it just shows you that So many companies coffers you are really not that deep and they rely on of course. There are subscription numbers. They rely of course on advertising to keep them to you. Know taking over so it. Is this the moment tonight speaking to our raw bound bit earlier his doing a special on on on public service? Broadcasters on the culture show that's going to be Seventy were impacting. There is this the moment for the BBC to reinvent itself Do we see a new day for the? Abc Australia's CBC and Canada. It's could be so I think there's something there but I think when you come down to how do you get out in the world and cover things. This is the problem. We're we've got a May issue to get out largely commissioned And and and and and certainly You on almost on. Its Way to its printers but then what happens with June. What happened to the whole supply chain around that the good thing I can say I think I was talking to someone from Bloomberg yesterday. The bureau chief here in Zurich. He said that Dave seen subscription numbers. You know going through the roof or at least sign eight thousand New People a day and the same thing for us at you not to To beat her own drum at this time. But the globalist your this program. We're having our highest listening. Figures ever were seeing our daily newsletters Which was you know again with started as a Light Service. Andrew you now. This is actually an essential Essential reading obviously for tens of thousands of people every day. So it's all great but the question is then. How are we able to monetize it? And how are we able to of course get our people out around the world when we see advertising being counseled people not wanting to be associated with these times and all the all the biggest companies in the world looking at their balance sheets? Taliban in Zurich. Thank you very much for joining us now. In Times of extreme crisis an option always available is calling upon a national military democracies traditionally regarded this as an absolute last resort and quite rightly as a general rule. The less you see if a country's army on a day to day basis the happy of that country is but if medical facilities become overwhelmed and supply chains fracture the case for putting soldiers on the streets may become irresistible on join now by pulled Rogers a professor of peace studies at Bradford University and also opened Democracies International Security Advisor. Pull this this will be a coal. That national leaders will be bracing themselves to make. I'm sure over coming weeks. But first and foremost what role can a- country's military play during a pandemic? I think the key thing is not as much as you would expect unless things really fall apart which everybody who's they weren't happened under those conditions than Forces may be used for public order control in other areas. It's much more in terms of logistics or backing up. What the civil people doing brother a couple points from member here one is that there's been this overall trend in many western countries and others to cut the number of armed forces to increase the technology. It's the era of remote warfare seven example if you look at the British on forces fifty sixty years ago back in the fifties even longer. He'll talk about nine hundred thousand to nearly a million people this is after World War Two demoralization that went right down to probably No more than three hundred thousand twenty years ago now. The entire British forces are only about one hundred thirty thousand dollars. The army is better eighty thousand and beyond that only three such as house preserve is CEO dealing with fewer people. How long can stand to have twenty thousand people active in logistics and other things? If it's total of forces strength is owning what sorts of seventy seventy five thousand so one should expect too much in terms of ordinary support. There are other issues as well reserves become much more important here and obviously for the British armed forces reserve is so skilled medics. will be much demand but basically they'll be in demand elsewhere so. I mean they will already be into mount and many in there just aren't available to be called up because of the nature of the way they're doing too. It's not at the level you would expect. I mean just I guess not so much. Even militarily and logistically but culturally and psychologically are countries with a tradition of military service by which. I mean conscription likely to be at some kind of advantage here. If if there is a huge pool of trained reservists that country knows can summon. Yes but they're all too many like that. I mean we're tired of speaking from. Switzerland is one of the classic examples. Where are you still have conscription there? The Swiss on forces I think in turtle only number about thirty thousand. Maybe even less than that. But they can. Cold in many many tens of thousands of people short-notice old who've been through basic training and old who basically are trained on a fairly regular basis. And what they're trained and isn't just the sort of routine ferreted more than that so. I think there's some countries and Switzerland is a good example. This rather helpful difference both in terms of the understanding of the army. And what they do and I mean the efforts is minimal. There's no navy so really talked about the Swissarmy at also what ordinary people that are involved in it. Another thing which I think is important culturally as there's no direct evidence for this expect very stronger. Though that those countries that have had a long term serious commitment to UN peacekeeping will be the different salt. They'll have a false as much. Resilient able to cope with different circumstances able to be in difficult pieces places where fighting yourself out doesn't count now. There aren't too many like that. Some of the Scandinavian countries both have a tradition of peacekeeping and also Mainly because of the Cold War experience countries like Sweden. They always have loud reserves. Curiously one of the smallest countries in this area is actually haven't now Tony. Has It took longer. Think of less than ten thousand that you would expect that they've been involved in peacekeeping almost a without fail for something like sixty years and I've met some of them sort of look to the work they've done they really know their stuff in this white way. But if you tell between some regaining much more with basically helping with logistics and routine tens then of course the problem is the armed forces directly themselves peculiarly vulnerable to this kind of infection will indeed so finally and just briefly might governments also be thinking that there is potentially a psychological aspect to putting troops on the streets as I intimated in the introduction to this. It's usually assign things have gone to heck in a hand cart. But in these particular circumstances might governments calculate that people would be reassured by saying military turned out In certain extreme circumstances I think it would be right Hope it never comes to that. The problem is that for some countries including some Western countries. It could happen more than others simply because of the way. The whole pace of governmental organizations changed. We have much smaller. Cleese forces The data country let Britain is probably shrunk. Bunch went to thirty thousand two that paradoxically means they might be needed earlier But let's just hope we never got that far indeed north Paul Rogers. Thank you as always for joining us. You're listening to the briefing with a look now at the day's headlines here is Monica's Donyell you'll beach thank you. Andrew Argentina has become the first country in Latin America to impose a nationwide lockdown leaders are also introducing an obligatory Corentin to curb the spread of Corona virus. Argentina has already closed. Its borders for a total of fifteen days and suspended flights from other countries the UK's Chancellor Richie sooner is set to announce an employment and wage subsidy package in a bid to protect millions of jobs. He has been holding. Emergency talks with business groups and union leaders who are urging the government to help pay wages during this pandemic and finally eight new initiative in Portugal aims to ensure that we are still able to experience live music during the current pandemic. It's called the I stay at home music festival and features artists who are in self-isolation for more on this head over to monocle dot com slash minute and sign up for our daily bulletin. Those are some of the headlines. We're following now back to you Andrew. Thanks Daniel you're listening to the briefing with me. Andrew Miller. It's time now to take a longer look at the day's big stories. We've disembodied news panel. Which today is Michael? Binion foreign affairs expert at the times and Yasmin Abdulmajid the writer and broadcaster both joining me remotely first of all the Kovic in nineteen outbreak as we understand all too well by now is a global problem. Some parts of the world however have learned this earlier than others and in other parts of the worst remains yet to come as is the case with old disasters it will be rough on countries which lack resources a disproportionate quantity of which are in Africa. Relatively few cases have as yet been confirmed across the continent but there seems little chance that such numbers as we know will not rise Nigeria with a population of one hundred and sixty two million has so far reported eight cases. Yes man. I'll ask you first. And I don't wish to indulge In ghoulish catastrophe housing at all because things have plenty bad enough as they are. But how ready for this is Africa in general what? It's a tough question. And I think different countries on the continent going to have different levels of readiness so my family being into Dan is you know. Sudan is not a country that is known for its health infrastructure. And so I think it's going to have more difficulty simply because the resources aren't there and people are already struggling with all sorts of all the issues. These are not nations sadly that a stable and in healthy holy I think there are the challenge of course is also as mentioned the testing numbers Significantly Lower and getting out to test people and someone is going to be a challenge in of itself and so in a way a lot of these countries. Ah dealing or trying to to sort the situation out but sort of blindly. Because they don't know how many people they need to prepare full. A lot of a lot of the infections initially coming in as in many other cases from from travelers who've come back to wherever whatever country it might be but I think generally these countries are not as prepared from an infrastructure point of view. However what I would say is that a lot of folks anecdotally up prepared for outbreaks right. Like people are accustomed to deal. You've got Ebola in West. Africa happened a few years ago. So you do have an institutional level of understanding of how to isolate and so on the question then becomes in the same way that we've looked here in Britain what you've got an NHS or health service that is overwhelmed because of his exponential rise in numbers. What happens when okay. Yes we have the institutional knowledge to do with this bit. We simply just don't have the number of beds markel as Yasmin suggests entities an extremely thickly disguised blessing but Africa does have frequent and recent experience of dealing with pandemics. Most obviously famously. The relatively recent too bowler outbreak. Is there any hope at all that may provide with certain advantages certain foreknowledge? I think there is yes. The sudden either in the West Africa the experience of how to Break Asia habits of everyone crowding around for funerals and things like that Was successful in the end. Although it met some resistance and I think those lessons I've been widespread and Africa is well. You Know Africans are web. What's happening elsewhere on their incumbent and there's lessons are not just confined to west Africa. I I think that's a very important thing. There are regional centers of health. Excellence in the big cities in Africa particularly Kenya South Africa other countries. Where the some fairly well developed systems and I think the difficulty is of course to break habits of people joining in things together and to get people to isolate now. That's that's quite difficult in. An African context realized relation is very difficult. Yes man as we were discussing it the top Z. Court correctly observed you. Different countries in Africa will respond to this in different ways. And I'm very much trying to avoid the whole Africa is a country trope here But does it strike you? That some might be better prepared for this than others. I think so and it depends on a number of different things it depends on the quote unquote level of of Health Infrastructure Development. It also depends on how the levels of trust and communication within the population is. Is this a country where people have a sending tons of misinformation throughout? What's up groups and nobody's going to listen to anything that comes from an authority or is it a place that people have some understanding of the authorities at least in this case probably to be listened to and so on. I think the these little things The challenge of course is one of the challenges is the level of trust in in authorities around this. And we've even again seen that in in Western countries where people are not listening to lead us or not listening to advice coming at partly because the advice might be clear but also partly because there's this sort of people aren't used to these sorts of changes right and so when you have to break those habits as rightly pointed out it you have to have the same messaging over and over and over until you know. There's a critical mass of people doing that. And so I think certainly again anecdotally in Sudan. I know that there's been a real shift like once. The the government decided to shut down the airport. Just sort of with immediate effect leaving some people stuck in transit all over the world but what it did mean is that it immediately shot through the system and people sort of started changing their behaviors. I think that is one element of it but again I mean. Obviously South Africa's probably going to be better prepared than you know the Democratic Republic of Congo for example because of what already is going on in in various places and just think hopefully if that is infrastructure to for these sort of centers of Excellence Tulsa communicate that will allay some of the difficulties. Hopefully well. Let's move along slightly and look at one. African border. The one separating South Africa from Zimbabwe South Africa has announced that will build forty kilometers fence along it to keep out migrants and so South Africa insists. Keep out cove in nineteen. Although no cases have been confirmed in Zimbabwe. It would seem unlikely that this one country has escaped it. This does feel like the beginning of something is a moment at which closing borders has suddenly become not merely justifiable but perhaps necessary going to be seized upon by unscrupulous nativist Michael ASCII first of all about this specific fence the one between South Africa and Zimbabwe if we have learnt one thing about covert nineteen. It is that it is no respecter of national borders. Is this largely cosmetic gesture. Yes I think it is and I think it's something to show that the government is Taking steps to protect its own people and that it's not going to allow Hundreds or thousands of others to flee into what may be a better healthcare system. Not that they're likely to do so especially if they're coming from country which doesn't have kind of in nineteen years going country resorted. He does but he is just an IT's It's a populist gesture and as such I'm afraid it's rather damaging it's inevitable regain to have gestures of this kind It's a it's a waste of time. I mean you know if the border fence it's going to be forty kilometers or whatever. Just go a bit further on and come around the other end of it. I mean it's it's frankly pointless but it may have an underlying message that Trust ourselves and keep foreigners out which I think is a nationalistic message. We're gonNA see increasingly across the continent. Yes I think it's. It's something worryingly. I suspect to a going to see everywhere because the one of the great rallying cries of xenophobes a nativist in recent years especially has been. We can't take any more people in. We can't help the ones we have. If that becomes literally true. Does that empower them? All the move yeah. It's it's been fascinating to sort of see The closing down of borders the And this sort of this which initially of course is about actual requirements to stop the virus coming in from travelers. But I do think I do worry about measures that the famous court which is sort of. Nothing's more permanent than a temporary government program for a temporary government measure and I think the challenges once once you've got a crisis that allows for these sorts of quite drastic things too drastic policy changes Will there be a a huge fight to to change the rhetoric once things. Settle down once we've got a vaccine or whatever the end point of of this pandemic is. I even again here in the UK is a comparison. Point was Boris Johnson. I put out new policies around you know the police having extra powers to detain folks and so on and of course if you've got a country that's locked down in order to protect its people fine but what point are these postseason decisions going to be abused in. How do we make sure we? We don't allow things to pass that. Haven't been scrutinized appropriately. I do think it's a really fine line between protecting people in times of crisis and studying to sneak into the xenophobic goal record. I mean even Donald Trump still calls this the Chinese virus right. It's in because then you can sort of make it this thing that we can find by looking down our borders the fact that even a virus is being personified as a you know an outsider or an other should be something that we are quite concerned about Michael. Do you think it's possible at all for us to indulge the hope that this crisis may lead to a certain widespread finding out of populist Yahoos who have in recent years being insisting that you know there are simple solutions to problems and all we need to do is do these very simple things and we can fix everything. If only you would listen to me. Well I think it does depend on whether the science works whether people feel that scientists have been making them off the running western countries and are clearly guiding policy. Whether they have actually come up with the best solution possible. And if that's the case then there will be massive new respect for certainly scientifics bets medical experts. There will be a new emphasis on the importance of General Health would be probably a better kind of society certainly for a while. But I also think it's important that the fakes and the fake news peddlers are shown up pretty quickly and that is that is coming out. There's been a lot of denunciation at some of the more ridiculous things are circulating. The trouble is they have plenty of time. Still do it. And they can do a lot of damage and cause a lot of anxiety And fighting anxieties. Half the battle in trying to keep the country All countries Sane and healthy Yasmine all Putin. Is it too much to hope question to you as well? Which is that you might like to think. Maybe that an actual global problem and short of actual invasion by Martians. It's hard to imagine what more global problem we could have in the short term anyway. Is there any hope? Do you think that it might actually reduce xenophobia? Yeah it's I mean there's nothing like a common enemy to unite people right and typically that common enemy has been some sort of other that if the common enemy is. Virus is something that is indiscriminate in its in the damage it inflicts hats. There is a hope. And it's been something that I personally been yo-yoing about is sort of will this will this usher in an era of people working from home and smiling at their neighbors and helping each other out. I think partly it also depends how long it goes full right. If this is a couple of weeks. Perhaps it might not break behaviors but learn the situation for a few months for for longer and we end up in a situation where we cannot. We cannot pretend that the world is the same as it was in two thousand nineteen. Then I think it's it's unprecedented. Didn't the capacity has been the play goal the Spanish Influenza. They've been all sorts of comparisons made to the period. Oeste these moments and what changed in society and certainly I think There is huge potential in something as global as this to change politics certainly in the immediate future. So we'll wait and see well does the last subject for today's news panel quite nicely because as crises invariably do this one has unleashed a kind of mad energy and much of it so far at least pretty positive generous and enterprising. This has been occurring largely online which is understandable as. We're all going to be spending a lot more time. Their yes man. I'll ask you first As this panels representative of the younger online generations. What is left you so far. I have never had so many zoom close in my life. I'm not even sure I know. What a zoom. Call it some whether it's facetime or any other type of video calling. I have actually chatted with friends and obviously I'm a grew up in Australia. So a huge bunch of my friends are in Australia and ran out the time zones around the world. I have not chatted of sort of chatted more with my friends around the world in the last week. I have maybe in the last three years which was an indictment of my personality and my ability to keep in touch with people or the current status quo. But certainly I think because everybody's online everyone's just sitting at home on the Internet. Well a large portion whoever can I think is sitting home? The Internet You've all of a sudden got people with a whole bunch of time on their hands. A whole bunch of plans that have been canceled and people figuring out what to do and I think this certainly also this as you say the strange energy. That's been unleashed. Everyone wants to kind of say something. We'll do something. We'll be contributing in some sort of way because it. We all social creatures. I am really curious as to how long it lost. But do you think they'll be really interesting? New Patents Develop Michael has these panels representatives. Representative of what? I'm going to describe as more distinguished. Have you noticed anything of the sort yourself? Yes well I've actually got the blooming various myself. Now I'm pretty coming out of it. it's the last more or less the last day and I'm I'm very very lucky that I had a really mild Dose I didn't have been raging temperature. Michael speak to US journalism journalistic term way to bury the lead. The well I'm GONNA come but so white done white Donyo loudspeaker when you've listened to this broadcast and make sure but I mean I have been heartened by festival. Lots of neighbors Coming along and You know no shortage of We'll we'll bring food or whatever you want. Lots of people The other thing is technology. I'm pretty poor that but at least you know you can talk to Children and grandchildren and whatever Again to have to rely on ourselves. being Luckily I have space and things to God and not fresh out and all that so but psychologically it's very important Supportive others psychologically important not to overdose with the tough news. I mean you have to limit how much you follow in every detail on the thing is if you're interested in music or something switch to that area that's a completely different world you'll find. It really really calming relaxing. Takes it out of you take takes you away from things so there are lots of things? I do find this sort of positive spirit neighborhood communities doesn't help to lots and I feel I'm really lucky. Yes when if you thought personally about what you might be able to contribute in that kind of respect in terms you know you you are somebody with lodge online platform and as I've been discovering in the last twenty four hours during which for reasons I will not go into. I've mostly been trying to explain Australian rules football to dozens of curious. Spaniards just not. I'm not sure that's how I imagined I would spend my time during a pandemic but such is the world we live in. What are you planning to do? Yes men with your audience and your access to it. It's again something I've been spending quite a bit of time thinking about I mean. Yesterday I had a Alive instagram session. With a friend of mine. Who's a chef? She was a master chef Australia and we went through my pantry and she gave me advice on what things could make in a pandemic of all the things that I have in my kitchen which was slightly embarrassing up for me because it really showed up how little I knew about cooking and certainly This there's also I mean I have been thinking about what to offer some of it has been around or I'm going to open up and do mentoring sessions like Hoffa now mentoring sessions around careers and sort of things for young people who are on my platform. I'm also My loss book was a young adult fiction novel Sir. I'm contemplating I think. Next week. I'll be doing live ratings on my on my facebook And an Instagram of me. Reading the book out loud and. I think I'm not the only person doing this. I've got friends who've sort of done live poetry and at live music and so on and it's been even live coffee making so like burst of friends. Obviously in the hospitality industry has been completely wiped out Doing sort of like how to make a perfect coffee at home Live streaming and someone I think it is what will be again interesting is. How can we maintain this? I'm really curious about it and I'm also curious about. How do I NOT OVERWHELM PEOPLE? Because everyone right now wants to do some also part of the mutual aid groups in my local area and we have significantly more people that want to help then need help. And so whether that will change over time or whether it's actually a really great thing and now we're gonNA make connection than the local community. That wasn't there before I'm just. I'm really curious. Yeah it's it's certainly a really interesting time to be alive. Michael just finally and just briefly speaking is somebody who has had this in by the sound of it getting through it which is outstanding news. Is there anything you can pass on to people who find themselves getting ill because obviously it's not going to be just getting ill? It's going to be the worry about being. Just the panic. I mean that actually makes it much worse. It's sort of thinking of all the awful possibilities I mean. It's just try to train yourself to think positive. Keep positive focused on the things that Relax your mind I mean it could be anything I mean if you feel up to it and can do crosswords or something like that. Most people you know people say waste of time oil or watch something. Don't I mean it sounds silly but from journalists but don't overdo overdose on the bad news because that would just make you anxious and that is not good And then yeah think about You know what's come through. And what do you do value your family relationships enormously and much more than you thought you would. Do you know people you've been with all your life. You see them afresh and think. Wow how important for me And that is a very positive message. Michael Benson and Aspen Abdulmajid. Thank you both for joining us. Hope to see you both again in person sooner rather than later you are listening to the briefing. You are listening to the briefing with me Andrew. As recently as nine weeks ago. Uk Prime Minister. Boris Johnson thought that his legacy and the thing on which history would judge him was brexit a concern which like almost all other concerns now seems almost laughably quite the government he leads faces extraordinary challenges on a number of fronts but they can be boiled fundamentally down to two tasks taking action and explaining the action being taken on join now by lance price former director of communications at number ten. Downing Street Lens Licks. Look let's Lance. Let's look first choice saying that ten times quickly. Lance. Let's look first at your area of professional expertise. One of you made the U K's Government's communication so far. I think that on the whole they've done okay. I think the fact that the prime minister is always flanked by the medical advisor in the chief scientific advisor. Give some authority to the message that he's conveying and I think that's sensible tactics I think it's reassuring generally speaking to the public so but that's at the same time people have to have faith in what they're being told through the medium of communication. So it's very good news. I think today that the government started to publish the scientific evidence behind the advice that they are giving this notion of death for people to try to get their heads around but a at a time of crisis like this maximum transparency has to be the right way forward not they were a bit slow off the mark when I think the government of learned that lesson on that thought of maximum transparency When you think back to your time in number ten where obviously you didn't have to deal with a crisis like this. They would have been crises of other sorts where is the balance between being transparent and perhaps overwhelming or baffling people with information which they may not entirely understand? And that is that is not to cast aspersions on anybody's intellect. It's just to say that if if it's something with really kind of minute technical detail. How do you get that across to people? Yeah I mean you have to make it digestible and the way to do it is to have a twin track approach. Which is that. If you're dealing with particular sexual interest in during my time in down district we had the foot mass crisis. Oh farmers and people agricultural industry needed very precise information that they could understand about how to tackle the foot math prices whereas the country more widely needed a much more generalized of communication to explain. Why if they were driving around farming areas they could see pies with bodies of cattle bean being burnt. What reason for that was similarly? I think in this that needs to be very specific and technical information for certain sectors of the economy in certain parts of the population and a much more general communication strategy for the population. As a whole that I do that. That general communication strategy needs to have a human element to it. I'm starting to get a bit concerned that we're seeing a lot of men in suits talk about what we can't do and perhaps not as much as we could be getting from the government and I say this will come in time. I know that giving some thought to it about what we can do. And how we can be connected with each other and the positives of the way in which countries responding to the crisis If we look at Boris Johnson specifically does he have a how to put it a certain image problem. He is somebody who has presented himself as entire life as this cheerful jovial bumptious upbeat. Good time typing now finds himself doing extremely serious job at an extremely serious moment. Yes I think. At times. He's been seen to struggle with asthma. I think yesterday's news conference from newspapers. Probably add example of that. I mean you're absolutely right. His history threatened entire career. I in journalism and then in politics has been debated joke out of all everything when things get tough to find a crip will if not equipped some obscure Latin quotation to get him through the immediate problem of how to respond. That clearly doesn't work. The other problem that he has is the has a reputation and I think a well deserved reputation for not being a details man. And something like this. You really have to bury down deep into the detail which previous Prime Minister Mighty. Barron particularly Golden Brown with very very. Good at that and You know he's he's okay at performance our side of it but what it has to do is the really hard work that lies behind it if that performance is going to be convincing and I think at the moment to be charitable he's sort of escaped tonight it finally and just quickly if you could one big thing. He is going to have to confront apart from the big thing is confronting is Brexit. Of course which is still supposed to happen. Finally for Real and for good at the end of this year. There's almost no imaginable way that that can go ahead not least because Michelle Bonnier is currently sick with covert nineteen should. He announce sooner rather than later that. We're just going to have to pumps. Yeah this morning. We heard that Britain UK is chief. Negotiator David Frost is also showing symptoms itself. Isolating so it's either. It's absolutely clear that the government still with the current virus crisis properly and also pretend that it can deal with something as big as renegotiating our relationship with the European Union. The sooner they say that the better the sooner they recognize it at no one's got criticized for it There should be a delayed to the extension to the transition period land price. Thank you as always for joining us. You are listening to the briefing on monocle. Twenty four time now for our weekly look at what the last seven days have taught us. It has been quite a ride. We learned this week. At least the beginnings of how the covert nineteen outbreak is going to disrupt our lives around the world skies of empty planes roads of Qasr streets of people's schools of students work places of workers. French President Emmanuel Macron went so far in an address to a nation which has living memory of occupation by a malign invader and therefore does not chuck this rhetoric around lightly as to say the country was now at war in focused on the bed about the responsibility also can take your place. He don't replace He. Don't do let Somebody Nacional. We learn something of how rough this is going to be economically all at once industries in which millions of people make their livings have slowed down or halted. Here is the film critic. Karen Krizanovic on Tuesdays briefing from the film industry is generally like a circus. I mean what you get sucked into it kind of Don't come out but yes of course. Some people will find other ways of making a living. I know the people have gone off gone to become artists like that. But these people aren't there technical creatives of and that's sometimes quite a difficult fit so I know that there are some people that are driving forklifts right now trying to make ends meet. So we learned that if you're more fortunate than most now is outstandingly. Good time to spend money on that local business you treasurer or subscribe to that media outlet which you'll be relying on to keep you abreast of whatever lies ahead but we learned and we'll hopefully learn to better appreciate that any virus which likes its chances will have to contend with some of the world's clever a people one of them Cambridge University Virologist Dr Chris Smith talked on Thursdays globalist and briefing about the race for vaccine. Well the way in which this is approached is first of all you got to understand. What does the vaccine do vaccine educates the body's immune system so it can recognize something and that way it produces all of the things the immune system would produce journal natural infection. But they're pre made and ready to go before you encounter the thing for real so that when you doing counter the thing for real there. Isn't this catch up by the immune system while the disease runs amok. We also learned that one of the many things which may end up. Being briskly rethought is brexit which you might recall being all the rage just a few weeks back the UK has until June to seek an extension to its present transition period. Prime Minister Boris. Johnson has the two suggested that nothing could be less thinkable this week however have another question. What was the device another subject? What was it getting to be banished? it's been done. It is the I. It's not a subject that's being regularly to discuss. I can tell you in donning speed at the moment and getting on with the legislative legislation in place that. I have no intention of changing the phrase. No intention is key. One of the most recognizable get-out clauses in politics. There was a time when Boris Johnson would say much the same about the prospect seeking to leave his country Must Johnson. Who has a finding a job as president on the malls set? Actually we learned that lots of things really almost everything has been postponed for the foreseeable but the inevitable cancellation of the Eurovision song contest felt in the circumstances and especially bitter blow. This is obviously nothing to do with the quality of the music usually furnished by the Pan Continental wobbling tournament because they usually is no quality but like few other institutions eurovision. Seems to represent what we're going to have to learn to live without for awhile something silly joyous and harmless and as much fun indeed. Some of US would argue more so to deride as appreciate here is multiples indefatigable unbelted and Resolute Eurovision desk chief Fernando Augusta Pacheco on Thursdays briefing. First Time in sixty four years that the events not happening I. It's remarkable I. I I believe the event will remain Rotterdam next year. They decided to cancel so because there was a talk that would be event without an audience. I don't think they wanted that So we don't have to act from his ear. We'll we'll we'll go ahead for next year. There's two lots to be discussed. But we learned that we will not be left to struggle along entirely without fatuous Lee sentimental lyrics sung badly to nursery rhyme melodies four. We also learned that. There is no historical moment so grave. That a bunch of sanctimonious posers from the dressing up and pretending trade one to -SSUME that what we really want now is a mortgage rendition of the worst song ever written A No hell below us. Imagine a naming any of them. It's what they won't four and we at least we fretful. Sports fans wondering. How are we going to fill days or weeks of confinement learned at least one sport is willing to call play on as almost everything else went into hibernation the Australian football league the top flight competition of Australian rules football started? It's twenty twenty season as scheduled. Let's have a little listen to this because this is something we've never seen before in football and experience as much of the atmosphere. Here as we pan the blows out to run out onto the hallowed turf the INSEE J. as my main today's nigh banner. There's not a sports fan. The Games have been shortened and the stadium's locked but it's there for the moment at least and there will never be a better time to get into what one trillion prime minister. Sir Robert Menzies correctly described as the greatest winter game devised by mortal man. This segment take seriously its role as an impartial servant of the truth and never so much as dream as influencing any listener visa. The Rich Australian rules team they should support and now some music Steve also. Oh you're listening to the briefing on monocle. Twenty four finally this week and what a week it has been but nonetheless some things do not change will not change at least for this week and the thing that has not changed for this week is Fernando Augusta Pacheco's global countdown. Fernando is of course Eurasian. Desks chief We just heard from him shortly. And I believe Fernando and in the circumstances. I'm I'm willing to tolerate this up to a point there. There is going to be a eurovision ish aspect to today's global countdown. Of course I mean it's so sad I mean another event cancelled but you know what I d the android cited to look at the top five favorites. According to you know to the to the book makes we basically doing the Eurovision Song Contest? Right here seven minutes exactly and can tell you something for those who don't know much about your vision. They might be surprised on. Who is number one? That's all I can say. Okay well okay. Let's get into it at number five. Is this your judgment view? Basically just appointed yourself judge jury and executioner of the Eurovision Song Contest. What happens in times of distress using? Fernando has put the Eurovision Song contest under martial law and these are his rulings at number five. Then we have the punk pop rafe of the Russian Act little big with no. Let's hear it. Nope global global pandemic. Fernando is at all bad that was going to come fifth. What the hell with the other entries like well because they have an amazing stage performance and they described themselves as punk. I wonder if that's perhaps a bit punk rave in a way And these thinking Spanish in English in Russian. It's such a mix I. It was a very curious act from Russia though. We probably not choice for some of the of the viewers of Eurovision okay number four and this is going to be controversial. It's going to be controversial with dyslexic. Many people thought to be number one I did but let's hear it again is dot org a got pneumonia. We think about things about it's making me think about things yet. Well and you know. A lot of people are quite sad. Because there's been a lot of expectation about this act that Iceland could win for the first time and I wonder if they're going to have the same act next year some countries already said yes but orders you know. They can't because they have their own national selection every year because there is a thing here. Isn't there Iceland has never won this and I know from I was in Reykjavik once on Eurovision. They take it incredibly serious love it. It's eighty percent of your ratings. One Eurovision is on so you know it is a very is such a shame that they had such an excellent act this year Let's see maybe maybe repeat the same one next year another country election. They've won but it's been a while. Sixty eight is actually when Celine Dion? One for this country. See the thing. Is We about this before I? I'm not sure about countries using ringers. Which selene dion obviously walls because she's Canadian? I think she has some sort of Swiss connection. But I can't be to check because I'm venting my own Take that information. Well the Swiss Act Number three. He's actually from Freberg let's hear it is yon steers. We've had spun them Wa. Let's hear it that he's bloody awful you saying that. Switzerland's act is not actually Swiss again. Well he's he's from Friburg his his his his parents. I think wants from. Kosovo one is for an ob Albania in fact Gaon steers even. Though he was born in Switzerland he wasn't Obama's got talent and also the voicing France who's very international and Andrew Little Trivia for you. That's some good trivia. That's the first Swiss Song in French. Since two thousand ten. I I hadn't been counting. Oh yeah that's a very exciting. I mean they have languages to choose. You know Italian German French sometimes English. They didn't choose romantic chateau no they have not. Well there's always next year That brings us towards number to another country that never one had such a big chance. I mean it's it's Lithuania. They have the Rupe on fire. Which again you should watch the video for the Horatio Graffiti. I'm not going to do any studio. Never GonNa Happen. Fernando let's listen to it you come home and the fire higher desire. I mean you should just get get arrested for doing that. That's we've talked about this before you played this before in some other guys and I was griping about people rhyming dance chance and romance and walk and talk and street and made I mean come on the British English language. It's a it's a huge rich tapestry. There's all sorts of things you can rhyme. That's he he's got some Nice dance moves. What can I say I am just padding furiously because we still have two minutes to fill here for now though so pace yourself towards the number one is what I'm saying. Tell us a bit in fact about your methodology here. How did you arrive at your conclusions? To be honest. You Know I. It's a very technical conclusion. I did look at. What are the batting? What people are bad for big shot of course proper analyses? You know who? It's not just like I'm dropping off the hats advisor would include the Serbian pussycat dolls. But they were not the favorites. I have to be honest literally the name of the Act nor read. So I like the idea of Serbia's sending a pussycat dolls eurovision. That would be amazing. Is Interesting again. What was interesting about this year's entries? The strongest one were from countries that never won and Bulgaria. They're leaving through a rene. Since when it comes revision things two thousand sixteen. You know like to call the Bulgarian. Since it's IT'S FANTASTIC. So this is your number one. You think Bulgaria Two Thousand and twenties rightful winners. I well I think so. And a lot of influences from Billy Irish. You know the singer which is on the charts. Her name is Victoria. The song is quite. There's some nice beats. I want to say quite a ballot but he talks about mental. Health is quite. It's a powerful song. I think we should hear it to Victoria representing Boo Beria with tears. Getting sober is taken. No and it's getting cold. That is Victoria with T. Is GETTING SOBER OF BULGARIA? The winner according to Monaco's Eurovision desk chief Fernando Augusta Pacheco of the twenty twenty Eurovision Song contest. I hope this news reaches her. I think what Andrew we will still overview somehow absolute. Maybe we'll predicting coming weeks with my interview. Some of the some of the acts and an let's see what's the plans for the event. I'm sure they're going to release an album soon as well. Fernando Augusta monocle twenty four zero vision desk chief. Thank you very much as always for joining studies. All for today's show. The briefing was produced. By Reese James macos hippie under guston. Much Larry as studio manager was Steph chun-goo. I'm Andrew La Goodbye. Thanks very much for listening. Take care of yourselves.

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Hour 1 - Dr Allen Sills (06-18-20)

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Hour 1 - Dr Allen Sills (06-18-20)

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That said capper does fit their offensive system. Anthony Lynn has wanted a mobile quarterback. He's had Philip rivers there with the chargers. Now you bring in tyrod Taylor. Just in Herbert is a mobile quarterback Colin Kaepernick fits with what the chargers system is question is. Are you going to bring him in on your workout list? So you work out to see if you want to sign it. But the chargers fan base in L. A. Probably doesn't care if they bring him in. You got a veteran tyrod Taylor, but you spent that number six overall. Pick on Justin Herbert. And maybe it gets a chance to play. A team that's got to be committed to her. If you taken him that high in the draft and tyrod Taylor knows the offense. He would have a big jump on Kapernick. If that was the case and there's limited off to. You're not even getting a chance to see Kapernick and winter you go to be able to actually have practices, but. If. You're hoping to see Kapernick on a team. Too Long Way to go, but it's getting a little easier to imagine that he would be back in the NFL at some point and then yesterday I looked at it, and I had to listen to it. It was the president of the United States talking about Colin Kaepernick. Do you think Colin? Kaepernick should get another shot in the NFL if he deserves showed if he has the playing ability was he started off great, and then he didn't end up very great in terms of as a player he he was terrific and his rookie year I think he was very good in his second year and then something happened. So His playing wasn't up to snuff. The answer is absolutely I would as far as kneeling I would love to see him. Get another shot, but obviously s to be able to play well if he can't play well. I think it would be very unfair. Right, he started to talk about kneeling, and then he didn't finish talking about kneeling. That's what I WANNA know. Because if if the president is going to sign off on this or is close to signing off on this. Or ease off, you know maybe putting pressure on an owner or fan base if Colin Kaepernick. Is there kneeling on the sidelines? Colin Kaepernick's going to get a chance now. I don't know if that means he's going to get signed, but I think he'll get a chance. Now. You are hearing a lot of these coaches and owners who were saying hey mark Davis of the raiders. To Paul Gutierrez of ESPN DOT COM, Davis said he's been completely okay. With the idea of the raiders, adding capper Nick to their roster. Since he became a free agent after the two thousand sixteen season. However, it would fall upon his football leadership to decide. It's a move that would make they would want to make. But then you have Jon Gruden. Who is said before Gruden said two years ago, we thought Cabernet Nick would be signed soon. All Right, so you've got the owner who's saying it. And then you got Gruden, saying it, and then what do they do? They go out and sign Marcus Mariota. I'm a little confused here. Doug Peterson the eagles head coach. They. Apparently are interested in the possibility of bringing in Collin Katherine. Lie All of a sudden is everybody interested in Colin Kaepernick and add and played in three years, but now everybody's interested. Ain't. The winds shifted here when the commissioner said something now the president of the United States says something now. It feels like it's okay to bring in Colin. Kaepernick and maybe he gets an opportunity here, but I was just surprised that all of these. Different entities they're like. Yeah, we're. We've been open to it so the owner of the raiders. And the head coach of the raiders are both in agreement on Colin, Kaepernick. But they didn't bring him in. You brought in Marcus Mariota. Who's never had anywhere near the success of Colin Kaepernick not even close. But, it's become popular among NFL executives and coaches to suggest Kapernick should and could return after three year absence here. Yeah, Paulie. We joking over here. The reporter asked President Trump the question and he did. He talked about a little football and everything. What if what if president trump had gone for like twelve minutes you? Could see him in Seattle secure the quarterback position and Russell Wilson's ever been hurt, but a great stopgap thing if he does you know Indianapolis. Got Philip rivers he's old and you know they can use a mobility guy behind quinten, but he did like twenty minutes of real football breakdown and never. Can we get back to China? That system. Is to present. Can we talk about China? What do you think Mike Glennon Jacksonville place? That's you know. They're very secure down there at the. What do you think a gardener minhsiu Mr President? Twenty minutes on. Men Shoe. You know I loved. I loved him coming out of Washington state now for the NFC east. Bill O'Brien's Brian's the bad decisions down there. He shouldn't be GM and coach got split that up. What about I mean? He traded Deandre Hopkins I. And what did he get in return? We talked about the stock market Mr running back. That's not that good. And the Bengals, Joe Borough I. Love Joe Borough. But you know you gotTA. have weapons around in about New England, though I mean they've got some guys. I got fifteen minutes on Cam Newton in the Oval Office. Over here. Hey, tomorrow, I'm talking. Jared stood him and that's it I'm talking about that. And who's a little wide receiver, they should trade him to Tom Brady. Ross always injured. and. You know I'm not sold on Gronk I. Don't know I mean that's just me. I don't know. It'd be great if he just did his talk football. Nothing else just football. It'd be great, but maybe cabinet gets a shot here maybe. Yes mclovin! Can I throw out a football reason? The League is changed in terms of running quarterbacks. We just had the greatest running season of all time, and the team could be beat in Baltimore so I feel like it's a more running and Josh Allen and like every young quarterback the they've taken off visit a contract structure. Okay, but why wasn't he signed last year? I think it's really become a reality now, but two months ago. The Corona I don't know what he doesn't have it. No just said they can't get guys in the building, but they're. Everybody's talking about Cabernet now. Nobody's nobody's worked him out. Nobody's talked to him, but everybody's like. Yeah, we'd be open to it sure. You're saying it's piece the protests and stuff. Yes, yeah, definitely. I have to obviously he's going to be aware of that like. Why are you bringing me in? Do I have a chance to play? And I still go back to either the Texans or the chiefs are going to bring in Colin Cabinet. I don't have any information from anybody. That's just a gut feeling that I have those would be the two teams that I'd keep an eye on. Maybe the chargers do. But I'd. tyrod Taylor there. And maybe capper Nixon upgrade over tyrod Taylor. I mean normally he would be. He's better, quarterback or more talented, but tyrod. Taylor's been playing and captaining, because not and you got Justin Herbert. How long does Justin Herbert sit before? He's GonNa to get a chance to play. Because if capper knicks really good, and he's what thirty two he might be your quarterback for two or three years as a possibility there. And you use the number six pick overall in Justin herber. You don't have quarterbacks in the top ten to have them. Sit for a couple of years. Yeah, Talk. Is it worse to bring Catholic in and not sign him or not touching it all getting people's hopes up because I brought him in, and he's tease them, and and you decided to discard him. Him in altogether if you weren't serious about adding and you don't know that. I mean nobody knows if he can play. So you have to bring him in. You might bring him in and say you know what he doesn't fit. That was the big thing that was the. That was sort of the code filler system. Given what the systems are now in the NFL, he fits some systems here. And he's better than you know a majority, these backup quarterbacks, or at least the potential to be better than them, but if you're bringing him in I think you have to bring him in and have a football mindset of Kenny play, not. Hey, we just want to give you a chance here. David in Texas then we'll take a break David. Six four to twenty. It's like in our society. Everybody's asking for change. Everyone's protesting for change so now change is beginning to happen, and it's like we're questioning the motives of it. It's like we're not going to be happy unless an owner or some leader in society. Yeah, I was wrong the. Winds shifted now now. I'm born in this direction. If we don't hear that, we're not as willing to accept this change that's trying to happen. Are you for Cabernet getting a chance here? Yeah. But kind of like what trump said part of what trump said if he can go out and prove that he's good enough to compete than he and everybody else that situation should have a chance. But he's should have had this chance for the last couple of years and thanks for the phone call David. It's just that the president now member he called Capri can sob when he was kneeling. That scared these owners. Because you had Mike Pence, the vice president showing up at a colts game just to leave before the game started when Kapernick was taking a knee. Players taking knees so. This to me, you talk about winds of change. That's when the president said this. About Kapernick as a football player. I think I think some opinions changed considerably. It felt like it might be okay to bring him in now to see if he can play all right, we'll take a break when we come back. We're going to talk to the chief medical officer of the NFL about some of the concerns coming up and Dr Fallacy the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases a little bit later on Pat Forty has some good stuff on the. The situation at Oklahoma. State with Mike Gundy. Have that for you coming up? Your phone? Calls are welcome. We'll settle on a poll question. We got play of the day stat of the day. It's approaching fourteen after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch US live every weekday morning nine to noon, eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox sports radio. Find your local station for the Dan Patrick Show at Fox sports, radio, DOT, com, or stream it live every day on the iheartradio. iheartradio APP by searching F S. Are you own rent your home? Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work. You know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO. 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I'm going to need to be in their dance that we're GONNA. have to make a hard stop on this. Thanks for having me on. Explain what your job is with the NFL so Dan I help all the health and safety efforts, which means working with all the club medical staffs, all of our medical committees, certainly our partners at the NFL. Players Association in their medical staffs. As well as Oliver. Research Partners in engineers epidemiologists helpless, basically touching and and helping to execute all the things that affects health and safety of players athlete. When you start to look at the NFL's plan coming up this fall and I know it feels like each week. A lot happens and if we look back where we were three months ago, who knew we would be where we are right now and where we're going to be in two or three months, so is your job to sort of look down the road or do you have to stay in the moment of trying to adapt to whatever we're seeing on a daily basis with this virus? Well! I think there's some of both Dan and you made a great point which I've been telling people I say feels like about five years. We all started quarantining at shelter in place. It's actually been probably about one hundred days or nets the same time in have from now at the start of our season. So you think about how we've learned Omelettes more awareness, we have the new technologies that are emerging respect all that's going to continue in. Put us in a different place. Place so I think what we have to do is make the best decisions we can at each state's knowledge in hand, but also tried to prepare in remain. What the phrase I've been saying everybody, flexible and adaptable guest. In this situation we're going to be adapting football to the garage virus, not the virus, the football, and so it is crucially important that we have that mindset of flexibility adaptability and using that new knowledge along the way which your biggest concern. This football season. I think like everyone we're dealing with the novel virus that no one can really predict and so I think that it's impossible to know which direction it's going to take us in, and I think that's true, not just for the NFL, the country in the world, so I think that's why we stay in very regular contact with public health authorities CDC the White House Task Force with with public health authorities in each state and each of our club markets, and we just have to work in a very collective fashion. As we do what's best for not only just the NFL, but the public at large are you one hundred percent confident were playing football this full. Hundred percent confident of anything with regard to this virus I would say that I'm very optimistic that we're. We're tracking. We're moving in that direction, but I think throughout this. Damn, we said look. We have to be cognizant of what's happening from a public health standpoint. The NFL's nine. It's GONNA put her head down at state. We're charging forward. No matter what I think you saw that with drafts. Right, you know there are a lot of people that said well. We couldn't or shouldn't do the draft, but we said look. We've got set of things we'd like to do. How can we do that and do it in concert? With the current public health recommendations are and I think we wound up with a with really unique and special event that also raised a whole lot of. Of Money for very needed relief effort, so that's the same approach we've got. We've got to take here. We've gotTA take really careful. Look at work very cleverly again with the players association, they're advisers. Republic health authorities and make the best and safest decision for all of our stakeholders. Our players coaches fans, everybody that's in the NFL family. What do you think of the NBA? Plan? Very regular contact that you lobster the NBA in all sports leagues we share with each other regularly are learnings were all confronting the exact same issues and I think that notionally we all have the same basic approach to that. They're obviously some subtle nuances in differences from one league to another just based on operational issues, but I think that again. The NBA tried to do just what we've done. Which is the very thought? To really be cautious to work in a step, wise fashion to keep everybody safe as possible at and again we're all learning from each other in this. We talk not only to each other in north. America, but we talked to sports leagues around the world, the Bundesliga the Australian football league. We're all trying to share. Collaborate and learn from each other through this and we keep talking about well, not me, but the the experts keep talking about this second wave, and I said you know. Let me know in the first wave in. Like we don't. We don't know this dock with. When does the first wave end and then that second wave if it is coming back? So, how do you prepare for that? Yeah I. Think you're exactly right. You know there's a saying in the medical community that all models are wrong that some are actually useful and I think that's true here. You know it's really hard to predict what's going to happen again. I think we just have to be flexible and adaptable. We have to make the best decisions we can with the knowledge at hands. In and as you said that that that's very hard to predict, and it's also very region. What's happening in one part of the country may be very different from the other part of the country so I think as I said we WANNA make sure we're hand in glove with our players association with public. Health authorities to make the best decisions. Whatever the situation on the ground. Maybe at that time you had Zico Elliott some other cowboys, some of the Texans who tested positive? If this was the week of a game? A. Protocol, and with Zeke Elliott, and some of these other players of now, what what safeguards would be in place here? And how long would they be out? So! I can't comment specifically on any case, but in general, what are protocols are moving towards? We want to identify anyone who's newly infected at the earliest possible moment, and yet the mice elated from the rest of the team environment and again this isn't just about players, coaches, athletic trainers, strength and conditioning staff. Anybody in what we're calling. That's he goes system. We identified him at the. The earliest phase of the infection removed them from the rest of the environment. Get in the appropriate treatment in watching monitor that recovery store protocol. Will detail exactly what we do at each step of that. It's also really important that we cleared them appropriately to make sure they're not infecting when they come back industry for things like some of the cardiac complications that can happen Africa. So we'll have all that detailed out again will work hand in glove with players. Association on what that protocol. It's like what would be the minimum. That somebody would have to sit down if they tested positive. Well Again I. think that's that's based upon public health guidelines, and in certain guidelines depending on whether you have symptoms when the last time your symptoms were, what your test status is hard to give you an exact number, but I mean I think you're looking at someone missing at least a couple of weeks time. After a positive test it's not going to be test positive one day. You're back towards days later that there's going to be a time interval in there again. Our knowledge on that may continue to evolve a little bit. But I'd say at a minimum. It's going to be a couple of weeks time. What will face mask? Look like this this season. Will the any alterations to them? It's interesting. You mention that you've probably heard that. We've been working with a group of engineers to look at some alternative designs of the mask with sort of an extended shield covers parts of the face mass. I have to say when I first heard about the idea. Thought is probably the dumbest thing I've heard. I didn't really think it would work, but as I looked at the designs and the creativity, Amax, you credibly impressed with at work and so again we're working together with engineers from the players association. And actually trying some of those models on different players and getting feedback, and we'll see where that takes us, but I'm optimistic. We may be able to find something that's very useful there again trying to help prevent respiratory droplets from being spread around while zeal. I know when we look at these athletes and they're young. They're healthy, but is a three hundred pound lineman healthy. Are they more at risk than somebody. WHO's a running back? Who is a ways to twenty-five? Yeah I think that's something we're still trying to learn. There's still so much about this virus that we don't know. We do know obviously again. Age and certain other factors medical co morbidity. for more risk, but how that translates into an elite athlete population. We just don't know I. Think the take home messages we gotta do all we can to keep everybody safe whether it's a three hundred pound lineman or a two hundred pound kicker quarterback We want to try to mitigate risk for everyone in their. Keep them safe as possible. And as I said if they do become newly infected, get them isolated treated appropriately so that we don't spread around so the rest of the team. Go Wash your hands. Good luck in surgery. Thanks we always do that part and I chat on. Thank you, Dr Dr Alan Sills the NFL chief medical officer, and over by the way a neurosurgeon kind of show off there I was gonNA. Showing my my knee surgery and my shoulder surgery and get some tips, but you know he does. He does big big boy stuff. They neurosurgeon stuff they're. Imagined Oh. I wonder if you're a neurosurgeon. Do you look at those other doctors and you wait your interest? Your a bar or no convention, Medical Convention, and like do the neurosurgeon hang together. And then they whisper about some of the other guys. Always an orthopedic okay. Yeah, how's it working on toes? Yes John Lifesaving Hammer. Toe, pursue. What are we gonNA, do what he's. Losing Wizard. He's operating on the brain. Yes, mclovin I've always wondered how I know there's a system like why does someone become a urologist and not a cardiovascular? How do you pick the the lesser body parts work on? I don't know. Are you not as good a student? Now? You may say well. This is what I always wanted to go into or my dad was in. In this field but I. don't know if there's certain levels of I'm a really good student. Does that mean you get to be a neurosurgeon surgeon as opposed to a on a good student? Well, you get to be a urologist I. Don't know how that works in the medical community. What specialty is the one seed brain surgeon or heart surgeon? That's seems really close. I mean like if they walk into a room Well that's the. That's the big guy. That's the the most important, or is there one other than that? Well I think until we have something truly amazing with the brain than it would be the heart surgeon because. We transplant. Yeah, we talk about the heart transplant. I think with concussions and if there's a way for somebody to solve that. Prevent that you know treat that then that might be a difference maker, but Wasn't a doctor. Christian Barnard, didn't he do the first heart transplant? Back in the sixties. Yes mclovin I have a list of. Specialties Google that. The Franchise tag value. You want me to go ten to one or one to ten. Ten to One ten radiology? That's important. Nine Gastro in Toronto. G. IS MOSTLY FRITZY page. A plastic surgery. That's really interesting. Seven cardiology, so it's lower down. Cardiology is not one of the higher payer wants because there's so many of them are plastic surgery, though is they make a lot of money, but they're like the social media, influence or of the medical world. They're like we don't care. We're banking cash or dermatologists. Go Go ahead. Talk behind my back. Talk in front of me. I gotTa work on the Kardashians here on making coin today and my Lambo See. What else then dermatologist, probably the mixing, SA- plastic surgeons five vascular surgery. He fours radiation oncology, very serious and three. Orthopedic Surgery which you've get fed a lot of money to over the years. I think my knee cost. Fifty thousand dollars or guys got a boat summed actually got a boat with your name on the back to embarrassed I. Don't know what the heck. This is. The Razzaq Surgery. The RASIC surgery, okay, go to the park. Thank you tie was waiting for. Number One. Doctor Allen, seals neuro surgeon number one. Okay, Don wanted right about Christian Barnard December, third nineteen, sixty seven fifty-three-year-old Lewis, watch Kamsky received a first human heart transplant in Capetown South Africa. Okay Yeah! I got a medical journalist says it's the competitiveness of the programs to get into so Orthopedics heart surgeons are the hardest to get into and some people don't WanNa go that tough of a route, so they go family medicine. Pediatrics and Foot surgeon etcetera etcetera. Yes, I'm seeing that thoracic surgery is surgery of the chest and heart yet. That's heart surgeon, I just look that up. That's why your heart surgeon is very high. You were right should be. Yes Tom. Can you aspire to be a proctology just like you know taking a bad of colon and putting? Labs that I just can't imagine while you're in medical school. Look that would be anywhere near the top of what you would desire to study. You should be thankful a very proud. To be in very bad shape if they didn't have these gastrointestinal colon proctology, people I have a I know a I. Don't know if he's called a proctology, but you know he'll do colonoscopy he has. The largest collection of those smiley faces I think in the world. So, those smiley faces the Yellow Smiley face he has all kinds of. You know? Towels curtains dolls, and he has the best sense of humor. You'll ever be around and he makes the jokes before you make jokes you go into his office. He's got all of these smiley faces all over the wall down the hall car to everything. Yes I don't care if he's got a million, then trust me. A million smiley faces when that glove comes on, and he's ready to go. Take a look back there to see what's going on. I may snap. To snap glove. Horrible things go time in the I don't need that. Like that's what you're I'm always waiting for all right. Bend over and then you hear the snap and then go. Back. Think positive thoughts. I have a buddy. WHO's an orthodontist? You know he works on teeth and does surgery around the mouth, and I made a mistake of in front of his wife, calling him a dentist. He's an orthodontist. Yes. I was corrected I was schooled. Yeah, and rightfully so. that. You don't want to get those two groups together. It's like if somebody says. Oh. You're a broadcaster, no sportscaster! Or you're just a guy on radio. Journalist. Here somebody said Paul. How's it being a production assistant on the Dan? Patrick Show I'm the executive. You don't wear a tie, not executive Todd House Win for that. Hey, you're just a guy who calls people. Get some on your a booker. Actually much more than that Booker Boy Rolodex, a joke boy. Hey, booker boy club, Chris joke boy. I, just remember the first week. I showed up. There was a controversy about Todd Avenue get starbucks. Remember early Auden as the greatest thing ever well. I I had the audacity to ask him to take out the garbage. Because we were getting ready to do the show, he'd already booked the guest and he wasn't going to be doing anything else. And we were in my attic and we're. We had two rooms and I just said Hey, could you take that down and throw it out and you? You did not take that. I think it's less the garbage more. The the coffee run in the middle of the show. I got upset. Yeah, but you weren't on the show. You've already booked the show. You weren't doing anything that the rest of the day. That was the problem that I had that. That was the perception like just get a couple of guests, and then you're pretty much useless to the rest of US till the next day. I took offense to attach correct. Adam verbalised I. Guess I just have to accept how you feel? Contribution to the daily. Are you just getting that? I'm just getting better I mean how many years go did I. Ask you to go get coffee. Wow, it's just left ESPN after fourteen years in the middle of this national show, because I lined up someone from the New Orleans Times Picayune and the second baseman of the cubs. I'm going on a coffee. Run right in the middle of the show. Where like I did. It's not needed for me to be paying attention showing great your over I'm not the one that brought it up just now. Come on. Yes see at the time. It was just like you Paul Me Andrew I'm not sure if you were in New York at the time coming up yet and then todd. That's those are like the only people that worked on the show, so you could say it would be nice to be a team player. And go get the coffee. I guess I could have phrased it that way, but everybody did a lot of different things back then. Remember, we had to build the dwell Paulie. You guys, not you but Paulie. You're building the chairs. I had no idea what I was doing, but we need seats for the Radio Studio, so we had these seats that had to be assembled in. Pauley had together four days. Yeah, three chairs. We had to do all kinds of things, todd. I guess I'm all about me. If you ask anybody that's ever worked in the last thirty years in the business. We Go Sky A. All just self promote all about himself. Mon Help, anybody at correct. That's unfortunate, but it's okay I accept you for who you are. And I'm still going to stick to that. That was being put in a crummy position in the middle of the showed, or at least pretend that I would be important for me to pay attention to what's going on. During the show, the show was booked. You Got Dr, found. She and you've got Pat Forty Would you go get me some water? I to be choking, feel like really needed the water a little part. This award. Dear Andrew well-done. mischaracterize on me. Seem polly weren't even talking. Nobody was on air yet. That was oh. Yeah, that was the difference, too, but polyester. Purdue Seaton's running the show running the board the equipment paulie producing. Todd wasn't doing anything. Could. Just work from home every day. So that's a long ride from where I live to go. Get The coffee and the gossiping could just kind of sit there in the you mean the. Football, everyday I wouldn't I wouldn't complain I. Didn't think you're coming back Yeah, you release your. Four days after you're gone for what six weeks. Either unfortunately hospitalized, and going into surgery, came back with the from the pandemic four days after when the US will side with Seton forthcoming about this when Seton Fritzy mclovin. We're coming back for the pandemic home I think there are home from eight weeks. Something around there and I bet go I'll bet you thousand dollars. Todd's last to come back because I'm not touching at-bat. Pro, everyone else. After, Memorial Day. GonNa be married. Let's all go in the same. You I reached out to you and I said you come back when you're comfortable, had guilt Tuesday Wednesday Thursday and Friday Memorial Day will. Put this on. and. I'm just saying that you can put it on Paulie, but not on me. All of a sudden everybody came running back the same. I said to all of you guys even said to Paulie. You want to go. You want to be at home. You can stay at home. Everybody had to be comfortable and I was not going to. Guilt anybody into coming back at all. I figure you guys. We're going to be at home and you're going to go. Oh, my God! I gotta get back to work, yes. Casual passive aggressive. Coming back anytime I did not say. Next year cycle get an idea on. Todd September twelfth where we're looking at only when we said all, what do we have for meet Friday? That was it. That was the only time. If you want to say Oh, you're guilting us into. The Memorial Day. That'd be blatantly like some kind of fear that I got to. thinking. I think you purposely waited three days, so wouldn't like. Look like you're reacting to. Todd and mclovin coming back are fritzy. Seating him o'clock. I, get crap. Regardless! Everyone else's coming back to your back and if you don't come back, it's like no one else came back. Why are you still home? They're not worried about the virus, but you have to you. You're GONNA help or you help this or this mclovin. I'm going to help it. I talked to you. Is At the moment. I'm like Dan is so I. Don't know if he wants me back. I was actually worried that you didn't want me back enough. It was at the exact opposite. I didn't feel pressure. COME BACK! I'm like wait. Does he want me back? You totally open-minded. You were like. Please do whatever reveals Dot Pressuring I know I was just thankful. I got out of the House to come here to the man cave, and there are only a couple of people here, and we did practice social distancing, but I just figured you guys would come back when you're comfortable coming back and the day after Memorial Day was that Magic Safe Day to do it. We you shut up, see. Here's the thing that todd's not getting okay. Is that just thing as a grown adult I, made my decision on when to come back. and very comfortable with that as like a grown anybody I don't know what the order events were. That's okay I haven't had some type of weird meltdown that somehow injured just spurred on for the record I know about you. Because all of a sudden I gotta do this and then I do like dude, just like like. Yeah, this is when I was comfortable coming back and that's it fine. That's all year in your own head. You're the one that feels guilty about something i. didn't I want you to come back? No, you didn't put any pressure, may I'm just saying that I? Listen to you talking about this. You're blaming somebody else. To build up I'm often whatever choice I make general on a daily basis. The wrong. Guys are on standby. Side Negative snarky confrontation or whatever you say. I mean the court of law. All of a sudden I'm under oath and I'm being. We had that. You think that what about this? What are you talking about? I think we can all agree that almost any time I say big. It's like crap for it I. didn't say anything it's. Quite. Quite. You're wrong about that. You're so quiet today. Every time I open my mouth and good criticized for. That's what I'm trying to get. You talk, so we can criticize where you're GONNA say why you wouldn't do that. I'm trying to get you to contribute play along very good player, but I am aware of the contradictory. At home. No you said I'd say it'd be nice. If not every single time I say, send an email. There's not an immediate confrontational, wise remark back. It's not there. How about you stay at home in your microphones? Not On, we all know what I'm talking about, but I'm. That's fine. I've got documented emails and texts responses that we did that. Come from all I'm saying is how `bout so it's Thursday and then it becomes what he's got. He's got nothing to say. He already said that to seventeen other shows. What's the like? I'm GONNA stick with. You didn't and you can't and you haven't and you won't. Okay if we took through therapy. For the. Todd. Just thought about what he just said. He pitched this guest. You're like why that person's already said that seventeen other places. Like Oh, yeah, maybe that wasn't a good idea for a guest, but sixteen other places after I decided. To, hear from them to. Maybe we can ask a different line of questioning and get even better response. Paul Franken the Hedgehog. Todd speaking about me the past. That is true I. Don't mind saying that I'm completely comfort with my job. Here is to produce a show. Not worry about feelings and I. Don't worry about yours mine or anyone. Else's as well as long as everyone's spoke it to. Talk? How how I'm communicating with is very different. Things fifty times in a row and I could show you those, and that's why I say it again. Maybe a little more tersely. Okay? I think that's fair to say. Okay, but I I've I've received some indications that with no chance would be ever sent to the dinner, and if it'd be a complete sale of what would be the mitigating factor there. I don't know I don't know what I don't know why that is, but that's something I experienced daily. I don't think the other guys experienced. That's true to opening the curtain throwing it out there, but your job is pitching guest. My job is pitching guest, but not to. Constantly have to like defend to every thought idea that I have. To to the point where it's. Like, it's just unnecessarily confrontational. That's just the best as I, can you? La La land. I think we need to take a break here I. Feel better after that makes Andrew. while. All of chat rose like Paul and seen such jerks. Let's. Hold on. I did not do this. If, I just throw out. The garbage can get coffee. All I saying. She Living Just do that for living. It's usually not a very tense environment. If you're, you're just by yourself getting coffee Ono. Those people get yelled at all the time when they screw something up now. Thanks Chris up there. Yeah, but if you're punctual, if you get the coffee, you gotta take a break here. Thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch US live every weekday morning nine until noon, eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox sports radio, and you can find us on the iheartradio APP at FSR or stream. It live every day at Youtube Dot. com slash the Dan Patrick show. twenty-seven club a podcast about famous physicians who died prematurely in sometimes mysteriously at the age of twenty seven. 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APP, apple, podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I, was wondering about the doctor. The NFL's chief medical officer Dr Allen sales out of nowhere being available, and he was making the rounds this morning. I think he was on with Golic and Wingo some other shows. It feels like there was a message being sent by the NFL. That Hey Zico Elliott tested positive a couple other football players, but we're still on course here. And that was the feeling I had that you're going to have the DOT? Come out and do these interviews on a day when he's doing surgeries and just tell us that all is calm. We're on course. We're consulting with other doctors. In other leagues, other sports and everything is good. I think that's what was happening there now. I did want to talk to him because I am curious I. I told you about the facemask, because I talked to somebody else in the medical community who works with the NFL and that was what three weeks ago and he said. We're developing a longer facemask. Here and dock talked about that. If zeke Elliott tested positive and this was a football week, he'd be out for at least two weeks. And then you're gonNA. Try to round up. Everybody came in contact with so we're still working through this and we got Dr John Coming up a little bit later on. So just trying to get some answers, and if you do have questions about this that. I can ask the DOC as a fan I'd be. Curious about if you do have any of those thoughts going into this I. Don't know if we're going to have Dr Foul she is. I don't know if he's pessimistic, but I don't know if he's optimistic. We're going to have football, but he doesn't work for a league. He's not a spokesperson for the NFL or college football. But I saw something where he was on CNN where. I WANNA make sure I'm I'm paraphrasing here. Andy but that he's not optimistic about football in the fall, I just saw the quote. He said it'd be very hard to see how football is able to be played this fall. There was a second wave. 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Monday 6 April

Monocle 24: The Globalist

58:58 min | 4 months ago

Monday 6 April

"You're listening to the globalist. I passed on the sixth of April. Twenty twenty on monocle. Twenty four the globalist in association with UBS live from London. This is the globalist. I'm telling you it's coming up today here. The British Prime Minister. Boris Johnson is admitted to hospital with ongoing symptoms of Corona virus. Ten days after he was first diagnosed. What does this mean for? Leadership in number ten and for the country and on the other side of the Atlantic will be probably the toughest week between this week and next week and there'll be a lot of death unfortunately but a lot less death death and if this wasn't done but there will be death. Us President Donald Trump rather fails to reassure the nation as the US takes over the country with the highest daily death toll of any nation. So far we'll have the latest Dannon assessment of the president's reaction to the pandemic also ahead as life slowly returns back to something approaching normal in cities across Asia. We look at the lessons that can be learned by those still in the grip but ask if the risk of complacency once-daily case numbers peak then how corona virus forced peace and compromise among nations in time of crisis at the end of the day whether ceasefires truly hold will come down to one of two things either. The virus outbreak becomes so serious. That local fighters are left with little choice or the major foreign backers. That have no business being in these countries in the first place decide it's time to exercise. Their influence will also take a look at how Portugal has reacted to Kobe. Nineteen plus the latest from pages from Australia. I'll pick of the business headlines and we'll hear how monocle magazine has adapted its production to this new reality all that ahead on the globalist live from London. Home ads here in Studio Madari House in London. Let's take a quick look at what else is happening in the news. Shinzo rb Prime Minister of Japan. Which has more than thirty? Six hundred cases in eighty five deaths so far is expected to confirm a state of emergency later following consultations with medical experts in Tokyo. Saudi Arabia and Russia have postponed talks about cutting oil output sending crude prices tumbling around the world and British Prime Minister. Boris Johnson was admitted to hospital last night with ongoing symptoms. Ten days after was first diagnosed. Well we're going to be discussing. Us political leadership in just a moment. But first let's get some reaction and some reflection on Boris Johnson's ongoing illness. Miracles editor Andrew. Tug joins me now. Good morning to you Andrew. How do we find you this Monday morning we will? I'm riding unlike unfortunately the prime minister who has admitted to hospital last night they said. I last night that he'll be in overnight to have tasks but is seems a bit more open ended this morning and as you hinted there were rumors going around government. Last week that his condition was worsening. So is certainly not grave is certainly a serious thing for him to taken into hospital. Osmo absolutely Andrew. I'm Pepsi Center me. We've talked so often With Tyler I'm with others of our experts on this program through the Miracle Twenty four output about the critical importance of firm leadership Clarity often just clarity in the optics in the presentation you talk about how clear and communicative The Swiss have been for example. What kind of risks are implicit in? Boris Johnson saying or or the historic. Saying he's still running the show but he's in in hospital. It's not it's not a great dynamic as well. There are a few things very difficult about the situation. Yesterday there was an attempt to calm the nerves of the nation with this speech by the Queen to the country now she normally speeds within the country Christmas department that she's ever done it four times before she made this very good speech actually which kind of tapped into old wartime resolve and spoke about. We'll meet again after this and I think was a good speech but then similar Tena. Slee on the same day to have the prime minister going into hospital that quickly undermined that there is a good word in the New York Times coverage of today they call it on ing and I think that is now. The optics are complicated. Because they're saying he's still in charge of government but he is sick and he's not going to be able to run run the covert meeting this morning. That's going to be done by the foreign secretary. Dominic Robb so the optics are complicated and in Dominic Robb. You have a diehard figure who's a loyalist to the prime minister but who would not be called a unifying force either in British politics owned the country. I think that's something of an understatement. Andrew Andrew thanks for joining US burden on the glamorous and we're going to be a true story throughout the day of course picking up on the briefing it just under five hours from now here Monaco. Twenty four that's very much the headline in the UK but the focus of course of the pandemic has moved pretty decisively from Europe to the United States the US is now the country reporting the highest daily death toll of any nation so far reaching a total close to eighty five hundred deaths so far and the highest number of infections in the world to surpassing three hundred thousand more grim numbers at the same time over six and a half million people have filed for unemployment with a great percentage of them losing their healthcare coverage to into the bargain. Well to unpack all. It's been happening On the other side of the Atlantic delighted say we're joined now by monocle. Twenty fours contributor. Scott Lucas who's a professor of politics at the University of Birmingham? And something of a monocle. Twenty four Oracle on. Us politics Throughout their Scott. Good to speak with you again. Just bring us up to speed with the latest. Tell us how the US has been dealing with the crisis. Trump's words. We heard a little extra at the top of the show. Hardly reassuring I the death toll rose by more than a thousand on Sunday for the fifth day in a row so it's now more than ninety six hundred deaths and more than three hundred thirty seven thousand confirmed cases and that's on an upward trajectory So whereas Europe is hoping we're now starting to see a flattening out of the rate of increase. That's not gonNA happen to us for some time. Why is that well? The back story to this in the Washington Post has an excellent story summarizing it as more than two months trump. I denied there was any problem. In Corona virus and then there's been an utter shambles of management by the federal government refusing to coordinate the efforts of all fifty states and we get to the extraordinary position yesterday. We're donald trump having helped create the situation publicly e calls a White House briefing very quickly and he does so to overrule his medical advisers. And says we're going to solve this with this miracle drug. This wonder drug called hydroxide. Chloroquine now hydroxy. Chloroquine is used to treat malaria. It has not been tested in rigorous studies on Corona virus. It can't have dangerous side effects including disrupting heart rate including death But trump touted this and overruled medical advisors to do doing so when reporters tried to ask the chief. Us medical expert on this. Dr Anthony Fauci about the drought trump would let him speak and kept on going on and on about how this was going to be the way out of the crisis will. Scott stay with us. I want to unpack a little bit around. Not just trump's management or mismanagement of this crisis but almost shannon lights on what it might look like under a different Leader in the Oval Office earlier. We were joined by Brian. Clark is an assistant professor in global. Uc and we put that question to him. What would you do differently under a different president? Let's listen to this well. I think there's two main differences. The first is how they would've prepared differently. So trump axed a series of pandemic prevention units within the White House and also moved to cut funding from the. Cdc The you know the main agency dealing with disease in pandemic outbreaks in the United States and then also would have prepared for testing much more aggressively so when there was preliminary evidence that this was going to be a big deal as there was as the intelligence community briefed. President Trump. On rather than calling it a hoax. And saying that you know we have fifteen cases that will soon be zero. They would've revved into gear to do the things that sensible countries did like South Korea and Taiwan and then the second thing is they would be doing now and I think that is they would not be using the crisis as a way to attack political opponents or to distribute protective equipment or ventilators based on loyalty to the president. And I think that's one of the most disturbing things about his reaction so far. Is that those governors who have fond over him flattered him publicly have gotten a higher proportion of their requests from the federal government stockpile including those swing states like Florida that he needs to win so think the politicization of the crisis and also the The lack of prevention are two key differences the insights of Brian. Close Scott Lucas. Still listening to that. What do you make of that you got along with? Brian's Brian's excellent and that's a good summary I think all I can do is sort of extend on that with a couple of points. The first is we have precedent here in two thousand nine. The world faced It did not become a pandemic but it was a serious epidemic of swine. Flu Killed Thousands of people in the United States and the Obama Administration did act Both in the spring and then in the autumn to try to contain the crisis. And eventually we got to the point where swine flu ebbed and it showed a level of preparation. We haven't seen this time and I think Brian's other point which is significant is that the priority of trump and his inner circle. Who not only his son-in-law Jared Kushner but now importantly an economic advisor named Peter Navarro who's touting this wonder drug it's been political. It's been. Let's use this to really play with the fifty states. Those who oppose this is Brian. Said do not get necessary medical supplies. They're criticized there in salt on a daily basis. Those who do work with us who we consider loyalist we will show our federal government supplies on them even if they're not the state's most directly affected by the virus in other words trump has taken and he's done this from day. One that is you showed loyalty to me. And his judgment case. Corona virus is not individual. Americans. It's not the tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of Americans who are at risk. Now it is whether or not he thinks someone is on his side and that will continue to be the case because Donald Trump's overriding priority beyond loyalty. He's still looking to try to get reelection. In November twenty twenty and the virus take second place to that Scott. Let me ask you about politics and looking at Democrats as well. Of course. They've announced that They'll postpone their nominee selection. Perhaps unsurprising a given what is happening. The scale as we've been hearing of the crisis and the sense of a mix of political bloodymindedness and inertia blended together in a frightening and potentially fatal combination. Do you think there's a possibility for the election itself the timing of that to be reviewed? It's got to be what you've got to consider if you're going to hold this in November and how you're going to hold the election if this crisis goes into the summer just as we see the Democratic primaries that probably would have confirmed Joe Biden is the nominee being pushed back back back. You know if you get a a few months out from November's election and you cannot lift social distancing guidelines. You cannot safely. Put people into polling stations. You have to look at an alternative whether it be electronic voting whether it be pulsed evolving. No one's really seriously taken that on yet at the national level but we had our first tent last week in that Trump administration officials said at this point they would be opposed to postal voting on a national basis and if they're opposed to postal voting on national basis that opens up the door to say we're going to delay the election in November and keep Donald Trump in office. Scott Lucas always great to speak with you. Thanks very much for joining us on the program. This you're listening to the globalist here or Monaco. Twenty four meet the writers this week. Join Me Georgina Godwin. Has I talked to the German or thirteen more vanish. He began as the tabloid journalist and a ghost writer but it wasn't until he wrote in his own name for his debut novel. Look who's back that. He was propelled into the spotlight as the book. A satire about Hitler returning to Modern Day Berlin became a bestseller in his new book. The hungry and the fat he takes that same satirical edge and dissect sex the current refugee crisis in Europe. That'S TIM O. Vermeersch on meet the writers premiering this Sunday at noon London. Time and thereafter available as a podcast. It's thirteen minutes past the hour now. Corona virus makes its way for me to West across the globe. Many cities in Asia are slowly reopening. I'm returning to some sort of normality. What are the lessons if any we handle should take from those nations? Let's start in Seoul. South Korea is one of the earliest countries to report a significant Kobe. Nineteen outbreak but due to early and mass testing. It's number of new cases. Has dramatically declined with more on this. I'm now joined by Stephen Barwick. He's a journalist in Seoul Steven. Thanks for being with us. Tell us a little bit about well. Reminded how South Korea's being dealing with the panic festival as you alluded to the country's has carried out a very aggressive program of testing. They've made testing available to anybody who wanted in the capital Seoul here. They even have some drive through and walk through testing. So anybody who's experiencing any kind of symptoms over who fears that. They might have come into contact. Someone who's infective infected can get really quick results and so they can know what measures the need to take in response. There's also been a pretty comprehensive and sieve program with social distancing that's been in place The official social program has been extended by a couple of weeks and looking out the window of my soul apartment. I'm seeing some very beauty whole blooming cherry blossoms. And it's normally a time of the year when Koreans gathering large group outside to take Selby's of these flowers in posted on social media but that's all been called off the as you mentioned the number of daily cases declining so it does seem that the government has gotten something of a handle on this but no one is celebrating just yet but will indeed is clearly expedient is just wondering what about the role of civic responsibility citizens themselves taking some initiative taking responsibility for their actions realizing the needs not only to self isolate relevant but to test and this critical point about staying at home and observing social distancing. I don't if you follow the stories here in this country. We had this beautiful sun kissed weekend. The parks were pretty busy and has now suggestions that people may be restricted from taking excise. Outside for example. Because they're not adhering to the advice is there's some truth to this idea that maybe people are just a little more civic minded way you are. I think that's the key points I think. This is a country that you know is ethnically homogeneous and where there's a national culture of cooperation and everybody being in things together. I do think it is easier to get people to cooperate in large numbers here. I I also think that you know this is a country. That's famous for having been very quite poor. A couple of generations ago and then rising to become this manufacturing industrial powers and relatively short period of time. I think people in this country take the threat of crisis very seriously. I think as Westerners sometimes we can be a bit complacent and we can sink like well. Everything will work out. We'll be fine. Maybe this affect the as an individual. There's been these stories of well. Look Rondo virus really only affects older people. It only affects people who may be already had some kind of health problem. I think people here. When faced with the prospect of crisis they tend to take things quite seriously and they tend to respond collectively and they tend to follow the basic measures put in place by their elected leaders and I think Korea is seeing the benefits of that right now. I'm just another point. I was going to ask you about Stephen. Y Y if we look back to sort of merce crisis you remember when there was this other similar conditions. South Korea was affected very badly by that. I wonder did those experiences. Prompt to change your most of a strategy on sort of governmental level and on a civic leadership level. Do you think so particularly those in two thousand fifteen and the governor. I you know I covered that at the time I was here. Then the government at time came under a lot of criticism for not being transparent and how they communicated the details of that outbreak. They didn't want to release the name of the hospital where a case have been discovered they didn't want to. They said at the time that they wanted to avoid any kind of public panic. But this time around it's really been the opposite of the government has held these briefings twice a day. They've stream on Youtube and they've even gone as far as to when there's a case reported they send out these alert by text messages to anyone. Who's in that part of the country and they say there was a case in your area. This person was the hospital so avoid those areas so next week there are legislative elections here and I. It seems just filed the story on this today. It seems that the current government's there's a consensus emerging that they have handled this fairly well not perfectly but they have learned from that Outbreak and seems like things are going okay for them. Now Stephen Roach insult. Thank you very much for joining us. Well listening to that and joining me now on the line is Isabel Hilton. Could Monaco. Twenty four the editor of China dialogue. it's interesting Stephen. Just I think said there was talking about the public perception of the government reaction and it was described as being not perfect but pretty decent is actually a fairly opposite summary for a lot of the state responses. We've seen actually across the region. Well yes I think it has I think it is and and I I think that if you if you look at Taiwan's example They say it was better than decent and again. Nothing's perfect but you know Taiwan which had its first case around the time the usually did Has Only speakers. Three hundred seventy three confirmed cases And and just Five S I think it is It's absolutely extraordinary. Italy have forty seven thousand cases and four thousand four hundred. Four thousand death Sorry Taiwan to that apartment. Just check the figures. So it's a a remarkable record and this from Estate a country as it would see it Renegade provinces China would see it that has no access to who a actions information data sharing. So it's a pretty impressive Pretty aggressive record and considering around a million tallies live and work in China. So there's a great deal of you know coming and going between the two countries and I think Taiwan that can be justly proud woman did give it more about Some of the delicate political balance as it speaks to Beijing in just a moment but just another another nation which we obviously discuss a lot here at. Monaco is Japan. What's your take on that as well because it's intriguing. The with no a an very much in aging an aged population. No huge early moved lockdown. Now there may be a state of emergency declared later. That's a caveat but we saw an early infection and yet we haven't seen the coins of dramatic shift that we've in other in other countries. Is that down to to lock again? Is it good governance? Is it civic responsibility? Japan Germany ten aging populations. You say very very low. Death rate relatively few cases and and a saline relaxed approach advice into obvious government. I mean they all went out and Martha Cherry Blossom. Is they do every year? Which is you know. It's it's Japan. Massive ends people argue about why Japan is has got off relatively likely They argue cultural habits. You knew that it is normal practice in the Tokyo Metro to to clean handbells twice. A day You know Virus all new virus and they stepped out when the virus happened. Japanese tend to shake hands. But Oh yeah they do. Travel needs fantastic crowded Metros and they still travel on those crowded Metro's because the the number of Japanese companies. You might be surprised. He hasn't thought society that get up weapon at home. Israeli relatively low forty percent to people stay home I work at home as we've seen in in other countries and and yet The the rate is relatively low. They're not testing very widely and there is a worry that one of the reasons that the numbers of low is that they simply not been recorded properly and not in the just in the last week they have because derived so I think the story with Japan has quite played out yet but he teases in only mystery another story. That's clearly still playing out. Isabel with some intriguing. Times is that Of course that's comes out of Beijing. We're hearing increasing. We'd call it. I suppose it's Shani's propaganda really about the global efforts to to play The the the Good Samaritan and so on But other some lessons inching you talk about Taiwan. You know very very Bristol Dynamics between those two. Is there a lesson here? Though that you know you do not need to be in any kind of a police state to respond effectively and actually there are lessons that if you are Early with talking to people clarity of information good optics swift action. You can actually do better certainly than the Chinese did initially I? That is absolutely in Taiwan and certainly sends lessen the Taiwan. We wish to take but I think it's absolutely right I mean one of the reasons. We have a global pandemic. Is that for the best bows fight. Weeks the authorities in Wuhan they make good to suppress the news. Including the destruction of samples persecution of of doctors and whistled knows misinformation which which meant that medical personnel. We're dealing with ours. They had been told couldn't be couldn't transfer from human to human which meant that the desk rate amongst those early Those doctors who who earn in the treatment was very high. You know a whole series of political mistakes now. Both countries had sent up a disease. Control Systems After the SARS outbreak in two thousand and three Taiwan created Assistant to size and it worked brilliantly. Trying according to the system of this is absolutely fell down Because of the initial politics I one had a policy of of complete openness It got extremely quickly. They knew they are. I think we've mentioned they are pretty much locked. Who on on China's insistence? They establish the National Health Command Center. I'm off to that breaks. And they put a lot of effort into it. They studied disease control around the world. Including I WANNA say the United States and they have the capacity to assume quite high levels of control. They have a a network or doubts who provincial to talent village level so that actually gets taken at every level and they have the capacity to allocate resources including industrial resources so for example they were handing out four million facebook today by the end of January and not exposing them they subsequently offered to send ten million face mosques to to the United States and Europe which was rather more than China was offering in China furious but but the the main lesson I think is managed to integrate technology so tracing tracking merging databases which which allowed them to collect information on people's travel history. Two weeks that meant it could identify people who might have been exposed enough to self isolate. They use mobile phones to ensure the people with stagnant. Hope all these measures that sort of Rico Saudi authority Actions but at the same time they were completely transparent they were having daily briefings they were sharing data and they they demonstrated that if you actually and you act decisively you can containment is editor of China. Thank you very much for joining us. As always with the global still to come on the program Monaco's collartoo. Rebelo looks at her. Home Country Portugal Mary. Action to corona virus. Perhaps one of the most telling signs of how Portugal's response has been different. His decision to grant all migrants and asylum-seekers full citizenship rights throughout the crisis. That's coming up here on the globe list of monocle twenty four. Es has over nine hundred investment analysts over one hundred different countries over nine hundred of the sharpest moins freshest thinkers in the world of finance today. Find out how we can help you. Contact us at. Ubs DOT COM WELL. The urgency of the pandemic has translated into unprecedented moves reactions and decisions by countries. All around the World Monaco's editor Christian tells us how covert nineteenth been forcing unexpected political compromise and solutions worldwide. Let's listen launching. The global appeal now especially voice will be now working with the parties to the conflict to Try to make sure that this global view is not only listened to Leeds to concrete action leads to a pause in fighting creating the conditions for the response of nineteen to be much more effective. It's been two weeks since. Un Secretary General Antonio Gutierrez issued his unprecedented call for a global truce an immediate ceasefire by armed groups in every corner of the world. The goal of his appeal was of course to limit the spread of corona virus and void overwhelming. Some of the weakest health systems in war ravaged nations like Syria Yemen and Libya but there was a secondary goal to Gutierrez says. Please well the UN secretary general clearly hopes that some time apart at home to think like the rest of US could give those engaged in armed conflict some time to shall we say reconsider their career goals ideally warring parties. Would come to some sort of epiphany. What on Earth are we fighting for? If virus that doesn't discriminate against borders or th- MRIS can lay us all down for good certainly put messed up as bring Real History Money Alien. Blue Colombiana get west assume that that reflection started with Colombia. Where just last Wednesday? The National Liberation Army more commonly known as the E. L. N. began a temporary thirty day. Ceasefire with Colombia's national government. This is a conflict that has been running for more than fifty years. And unlike another more well known Marxist guerrilla group FARC The L. N. Did Not choose to sign up for a peace deal with the government that was reached in Twenty Sixteen. The EON have been in their own peace talks with the Colombian government before. And so it's not out of the realm of possibility that an epidemic the corona virus could give them the push they need to make this temporary truce permanent and finally achieve peace for good on the other side of the Atlantic more surprising signals from a Middle Eastern region plagued by a devastating civil war. That's dragged on for more than five years out in Yemen. Hootie REBELS THE YEMENI GOVERNMENT. And even its foreign backers. Saudi Arabia all responded to Gutierrez's appeal the UN invoice into the country said Thursday. He was in talks with all sides to secure a full ceasefire. It would be a huge feet. Should be able to pull it off. Good whether this lands to any sort of lasting deal will probably depend most on the country's foreign influencers perhaps just perhaps the pandemic will prompt countries leg Saudi Arabia the UAE and Iran to refocus their energies and scale back their regional ambitions in one of the world's poorest countries after all. They've got big problems at home to Iran at the very least should be prioritizing domestic. Some of the world's most intractable conflicts. Remain well more intractable. Syria's U N envoy has warned that the country is at high risk of being unable to contain. The spread of the virus. Syrians are acutely vulnerable to call the team. Healthcare facilities have been destroyed or degraded. There is a shortage of key medical treatment and health professionals in turn displaced persons and refugees as well as that any ISA. The teas are living. Conditions are especially dangerous but his warning has so far fallen mostly on deaf ears in a conflict that has now been dragging on for more than a decade and in Libya. Though a truce was agreed back on March twenty second shelling on Tripoli could be heard just days after the ceasefire and both sides have accused each other of repeatedly violating the accord at the end of the day whether ceasefires truly hold will come down to one of two things either. The virus outbreak become so serious that local fighters are left with little choice or the major foreign backers. That have no business. Being in these countries in the first place decide it's time to exercise their influence some helpful signs on that front came from Saudi Arabia and Russia which quickly backed the UN secretary general's ceasefire call some less helpful. Science came from Turkey which is quietly backing incursions in Syria and Libya. Perhaps a bit of peer pressure will convince even global powers to do what the rest of US already know. Stay at home and wash your hands of it. All thanks to motorcycles affairs editor Christopher chairman. Now here's what else keeping an eye on today as we were discussing earlier. British prime minister. Boris Johnson was admitted to hospital for tests on Sunday after suffering persistent symptoms ten days after first testing positive though Downing Street said he remained in charge of the government Johnson who is isolating off testing postive. Last month still had a high temperature and has been taken to hospital in. What the government's described as a precautionary step Shinzo obey Prime Minister of Japan which has more than three thousand six hundred cases. Eighty-five deaths is expected to confirm a state of emergency later today following consultation with medical experts in Tokyo and Saudi Arabia and Russia have postponed talks about cutting oil output sending crude prices tumbling around the world. The two nations happy embroiled in a price war number of weeks but there were hopes prompted by remarks from Donald Trump about the likelihood of a deal that they were close to agreeing a compromise. Global demand for oil has dropped sharply as a result of the pandemic globalist Monaco. Twenty four stay tuned. We'll have more on oil prices a little later in the program right now though. It's time for us to check. In with Monaco Scarlata at Abella in today's Monaco minute she was reflecting on her relationship with her. Motherland Portugal. And how it's dealt with covered nineteen Relationship with my home country of Portugal is not an easy one. We share many happy memories but the truth is we have been on a break for quite some time nearly a decade since my departure I've watched Portugal thrive from afar. It's re emerged from a financial crisis. Head Up. High was rediscovered by tourists and businesses the world and even sports the euros in two thousand sixteen and dot culture where the Eurovision song contest in twenty seventeen its recent handling of the Corona Virus Pandemic. His another of those memorable moments troubles suspended events closed. Schools non essential shops inland borders before any virus related that where registered the only other country in Europe to do the same was a Czech Republic. Many employers adopted homeworking before official rules. Were put in place and prime minister. Tony Costa has been outspoken on the need for European solidarity and unity but perhaps one of the most telling signs of how Portugal's response has been different is a decision to grant all migrants and asylum seekers full citizenship rights throughout the crisis. The move allows them to fully access the country's healthcare system and social security benefits. Not only. Is this the humane thing to do. But according to the Portuguese Council of Ministers. It's a way of avoiding a public health emergency last Thursday cost renewed a state of emergency for another fifteen days and announced new measures. All airports across the country will be closed through. Easter and people should not leave their own boroughs excluding essential workers and medical emergencies. These are tough times but for country that was a dictatorship for decades and only became a democracy in nineteen seventy four. I'm proud of the leadership on display in a time of crisis for Monaco. I'm Carlotta Rabelo. Thank you very much for more like that. The day's top stories delivered direct to your inbox every day. Seven am local time subscribe to the Monaco Minute at Monaco. Dot Com forward slash minute You're with the globalist here. Monaco Twenty Four. Let's continue with browse through the day's newspapers Antipodean flavor today. Courtesy of my colleague from down under violating stone. It's Markle's contributing editor Andrew. Me Good Morning Andrew. Good morning from monocle. Twenty four zero eleven studio sounding good this morning not too far from where? I began my day. We don't we're not like more wise though don't live together but we're not too far less than the country. We've been talking about this morning about a political leadership or lack thereof And what at first glance might seem a nice story Camber Times leading with a great piece about a masterclass in leadership? Slight problem for people in Australia. It's not there's no it's not. It's an editorial by Sues Wilson. Whose Kiwi academic And it might be the case. That she's enjoying sticking gluten was starters. Koa side very often. I think choosing to run the pace quite prominently is also the Canberra Times The record of our nation's capital enjoying sticking the boot into the federal government. It does might quite a case. For just cinder Ogden's handling of this crisis it credit for being direct straightforward decisive and transparent in various other adjectives not recently applied to strongest Prime Minister Scott Morrison and it does kind of toying the risk of tooting monocle own of what we were saying about to Cinderella and when we nine to last year's best soft power leader. It shouldn't be the case may be the basically saying like you know what you're doing in a fundamentally decent human being wins you this sort of applause but the bar isn't set terribly high at the moment now indeed no what about another soft power asset that. I think has a complicated relationship with Australia the monarch Queen Elizabeth at the top of the show. And you talked about this address. She gave last night. How are the papers covering the speech? He gave Andrew that guns surprisingly big on it when I say. Surprisingly the monarchy in Australia is not the big deal that it wants walls indeed. It couldn't have been I. I looked up because I wanted to make sure the numbers right and I are astonished when the Queen. I visited Australia in nineteen fifty four. And that's an astonishing felt in itself. Sydney had a population of about one. Point eight million people just over one point. One million people in Sydney toned out to see her ship arrive now granted. There wasn't much from television in nineteen fifty four in fact. I'm not sure there was television in nineteen fifty four but nonetheless. That's the that's the peak from which she's come down. But I think the reason that the striking papers have gone quite big on her address last night was it's not so much anymore out of difference to the monarchy. I think it's it's respect for her personally in the continuity she represents Mo- most historians will have no recollection of any other head of state. And I don't think that the pipe would have gone nearly as big on this if it'd Bayden address given by for example King Charles the food but what I didn't realize looking at the Sydney Morning Herald coverage which is the the pace. We're talking about the outstanding pub quiz fact. This is the only fourth time only the fourth time. She's ever given an unscheduled broadcast in her entire Ryan. And I think you could start a lot of arguments in the pump by asking people denying the other three. Let's let's invite all listening to right right to Andrew Miller. His email details her on the masthead of course. Let's talk a little bit about another intriguing global dynamic Andrew wherever we look in the world people are looking at The repatriation of citizens stranded by this awful period for Australia. I guess it's even more of a global problem than for other nations who are international globalist in their outlook. It is because there's two things playing into this. One is the fundamental question of distance. Almost by definition. When you leave Australia you've had to go locally to do it. It's a big country. A way from anywhere so getting people back from places is quite the logistical enterprise and also we are especially now youth of a nation of travelers. We you know. We don't have the option of having a a few days in Portugal or France or Spain or Italy. We tend to travel. Quite protracted periods quite large distances and quite often on the budget. So we have we are having issues or the Australian government is certainly having issues with a lot of backpackers who had been stranded overseas often in not terribly accessible places. They can't get home Because the airport's closed because travel bans being imposed by whichever country there so there's a piece on the ABC's website which is what we're talking about looking at the the plight of the strategy in trying to do knowledge until you and India specifically but there's hundreds of these cases all over the world just in the last hour or so. It's been announced that a commercial jet. He's got to be organized by the Australian government to bring a strike inside from Peru but not actually clear yet known saved yet to clear whether the Australian government is shouting backpack as they fly time from Peru or whether they're going to be obliged to kick in for it which a lot of people might think it's cheaper to stay here and you were telling me short but we can't cost the opportunity to ask the author of bestselling Book About Football Con. The Best Book about Austrailia Rules Football. I've ever read also the only one but nevertheless poppycock poppycock tat in your single on and tell me what this is. All about. This is interesting. This is being reported in the age. The Melvin News by Burn. It's not just about destroyed football but this is going to be a conversation. The other sports competitions around the world again to have which is how do we restart and the Australian football league which played one round of dimes and couple of weekends ago. Then through the talent is looking at making the most of Australia's space thinking about actually picking a place in Australia which can be isolated virus free and just putting every team there for the duration of the season so the virus can't get in apply. It can't get out I have. I am fascinated to see how this is going to play out in practice. It's fascinating idea. Sounds like it sounds like a good documentary Andrew. Great to speak with you. That's all contributing editor Andrea Melissa. Promisingly spark sprightly at this time of the morning. All I can say thank goodness. We don't have a videolink. You're listening to the globalist. Ups Is Global Financial Services firm with over one hundred fifty years of heritage built on the unique dedication of all people. We bring fresh thinking perspective to our what we know that it takes a marriage of intelligence and heart to create lasting value for all clients. 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Something like a third of oil demand for oil has disappeared literally overnight because we're not flying cars so even the biggest production costs in the history of the oil industry. Ten Million Dollars Day would not be enough and then on top of that. The likelihood of that happening is absolutely tiny. The there was supposed to be this this at least a stop to the discussions but Russia and the Saudis the two biggest produces the cheapest with with the greatest reserves have been trading barbs. Then on top of that. We've got president trump again. Us Shale has changed the oil industry massively again the huge producers. He had said last week in a twitter on I go you know. I've going to broker a deal between Russia and the Saudis and everything's going to be falling. He's now sort of reneged on that saying that the US isn't going to be part of a deal. How can you persuade others to cut production if you own country won't and then even more extraordinary on top of that? He walked out apparently of a meeting between trump and the big oil giant. Speak American giants on Friday. So quite what is going on? Frankly who knows but even if they could agree. These huge production cuts. It wouldn't be enough and the likelihood of them is pretty small. Which is the reason why oil is still just about twenty dollars? A barrel of shale producers have to have oil at certain essentially viable. So that's another challenge for for the. Us Lewis talk about another though potentially tricky set of negotiations. That also may not far enough. I'm switching our focus back to the era zone. Of course it's a big week meetings to agree. Stimulus measures Wha- what price unanimity of approach from all the various protagonists here. Yes unanimity of approach. Euro-zone yet. Very tough so on Friday we heard from the in the IMF the krona various economic crisis would befall worse than the global financial crisis They're setting up a trillion dollar fund just to help the developing world which the hit two which will be ABS- at medically and economically will be catastrophic We also had last week. Some polling purchasing managers index surveys from Europe. I mean just showed that business owners business managers just think see economically the world falling off a cliff and this morning. We've had the worst. Uk consumer confidence figures in forty. Five years I mean this is just how bad it is. So what we're now looking at is we've seen individual countries in the euro-zone come up with their own stimulus packages. But what we're now looking for is sort of like some sort of coordinated euro-zone approach and so we know that finance ministers are debating the last time they met. They couldn't actually come up with an agreement on March the twenty six. They've been given two more weeks to try to work it out. We've got deputy finance ministers. Due to debate options on Wednesday there was supposed to be Conference calls later on in the week but the problem the real red line is the north versus the South the northern the Germans the feigns the Dutch. The Austrians don't want to be Basically tax payers. Don't want to pay for the profligate profligacy. If the Italian this idea mutualisation of debt that you can have a euro-zone owned where Italy and Spain can spend the money but at the end of the day everybody's responsible for repaying it. This is what everybody thinks needs to happen but politically. It's very difficult to achieve. And so therefore we're likely to have some kind of fudge using the existing euro zone bailout funds or bailout mechanisms the investment bank European Commission. Things like this. The trouble is none of those are really large enough to to provide enough debt issuance to really get countries that are suffering greatly like Italy. Just not likely to provide enough financial fire firepower. So we watch carefully. This week's negotiations. What markets are looking for is a big number and lots of of support for the economy. I FEAR WE WON'T GET LOUIS KUPA. Always good tiffany. Thanks for joining us on the globalist here. On Monaco twenty four ticking towards the top of the hour it's going to be eight. Am in London. It is GonNa be known in Zurich and let's straight across those two great markets now. I'm happy disarm joined here in London. By Monaco's executive editor Josh Fournette and in Zurich are sheffer Dr Tyler Bray Morgan's to utilize first of all good morgantown Josh. Welcome to the global. You can't be your first time on the program. Is it on the veteran of the global presenting. Though Tom you're often tucked up in bed at this point very central programming anyway. I'm sure set the scene for us. Josh you're surrounded by succulents in your apartment in London right. Yeah that's right. Well having just read may issue of the magazine which went off to press last week. I've been thinking ve