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Wednesday at the Masters

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Wednesday at the Masters

"Hello everyone. Welcome to four please. Now. Driving the official masters podcast. I'm your host Marty Smith. We'll be recording all week long here on property at Augusta National Golf club discussing the masters tournament with your favorite celebrities, athletes and entertainers, this is Wednesday April tenth on today's episode. You'll hear from singer songwriter Nile Horan as he details. The real reason behind his infamous tumbled down the hill at the two thousand fifteen par three contest as well. As his personal relationships with the players, then we'll chat with famed NBC broadcaster. Mike Theriault to learn when he fell in love with the game of golf, and what it was like to call history at Augusta National finally on joined by media personality. Eric Anders lying to chat about his infatuation with the game. And why he actually hated it for so long. So without delay. Let's turn off. Off of Washington road proceed down the famed magnolia lane and get to it. Here's Nile Horan Nile Horan is a singer songwriter. Heartthrob global icon, I'm giving you all kinds of great titles. Keep going, and and great friend to the masters. So thank you so much for joining the official masters podcast. We appreciate your time so much man now, thanks for having me. I was especially happy when I heard you were doing this. This is great already signed up in the newer. You've definitely set kick it over the line. Thanks. Well, thanks. Appreciate it. I really enjoyed our time last year that in a minute. But I just wanna start with your passion for the game of golf. How did how did that passion develop? How did you come to love the game so much? I was always quite a sporty kid always playing soccer or a couple of sports I played and kind of more outdoorsy than sitting watching TV type child. And obviously when I was a kid tiger was as I said to you before tiger was like all you have to do is really look at top ten twenty in the world. They're all my age. You know, they're all mid twenties. Tiger is the reason. Basically, you know, he was changing the game at the time. And he was clearly a dominance part of of the of the game Agov, and when you're young, and you're impressionable Tarata, not wanna be Tiger Woods. So that's where I got it from my grandmother had like a I never played golf. I always played like little games a pitch and small power three things at my grandma. Next to my grandmother's house they had like a local in our neighborhood local pitch important. I would just go down jump through a fence with a couple of close in my hand couple balls in my pocket and going chip until the sun went down type thing. And then when I was about twelve or thirteen joy middle Gulf club. And then it can have kicked on from there when you were chipping and putting after breaking in after the break. What were the dreams? What were you envisioning at that time? Do you do all the same stuff? Like you wanna hold to the chip of green chips with Linda to win the opener to come here. And you know, put for to win at the masters like like every other child, you know, if you're playing football you wanted to score a goal in the World Cup final. If you're playing tennis you to England. It was kinda like every sport has its moment than like here and holding Andrew's kind of Gulf's ones. What about the game? You most appreciate the older of got. I appreciate how good the pros are because I know hard the play myself. So as we can both can can say there, it's such a meticulous sport. And I appreciate how good these guys and girls are I like meticulous stuff. I mean, a musician. You know, there's there's quite quite meticulous to be able to do. So to play Gulf is kind of like the sportier version of. Of being a musician suppose. I appreciate how hard is. And how hard you have to work to make yourself go to this one of the questions that I had for you. How does your profession and your passion for music intersect golf in? What ways are they aligned in your life to create a symbiotic relationship? Yeah. I guess as I said how meticulous? They both are like if I picked up guitar to learn something river, a core progression or whatever to be meticulous conscious. Go up and go. Yeah. Can do that. Can do you have to spend time s same with everything but that being guitar player? Whatever is quite meticulous. Samokov can't just pick. It open swing at it. You know? I mean, if it was that easy. We we'd all be pros. I think that's where it intersected. Obviously, you know, friends would few few the pros who love their music like today. I was which blew my mind. I was on Gulf channel all morning or for half an hour this morning, and Peter Jacobsen was there who I was obviously like Peter Jacobsen. But he was telling me, I I'd seen him doing something where he was said he was a guitar player himself, and he said. Really love your out of them and started naming like tracks off their offense said, you know, he sits in plays couple of my songs and to have that feel. I mean like. I mean, it's like boost I mean as Peter Jacobsen for God's sake, you know, it's pretty special as I said, so my mate their low for music, and my love golf, it's going to pass across at some point. You know, Rosie and Rory and stuff like that. You know, Rosie's hammer me everyday send him songs for my new album when he's sitting getting, you know, getting massages whatever you have listened to to my new stories hitting balls or whatever. And it's pretty cool. That's where we cross I guess I noticed last year you're discussing your relationships with the best players on the PGA tour, and I noticed last year when we hung out here at Augusta National we happened upon Jason day. He just happened to be on the putting green and we walked over, and you guys already had a relationship, and that told me a lot it was obviously a genuine French how have those relationships with the tour players grown, and how do you foster those relationships? Obviously, I go to tournaments when over chance, you know, whether it be I was in Atlanta tour last year, and FedEx torch humping chip was on at the same time. So I got home for day bump into the boys in the range things like that. And. Jason day on is a big fan of mine. He's we're best friends. And so I kind of just kind of see the lads around and they're just great guys in. It's like, you know, when you haven't seen someone for a while, they're your friend and just straight back into being friends. Even if you haven't seen each other for a long time. Yeah. I suppose I'd be mostly in contact with Rory and Rosie radio in that Bessis. Why are you so passionate about growing golf? I mean, I know what it did for me. You know, matured me, it, you know, I think it made me about person to game, you know, get me friends for life, even from when I was a kid and join the Gulf club. You know, you don't have to. I think people have this idea where if they have to be Tiger Woods. You don't have to just pick it up because I'm telling you enjoy it. And that is you know, that's a fact because you just go out and have a laugh you might hit ninety shots. Put that one shot that one good one year strip under percent and there's over failing. When you hit that good. And it's just good to see. Kids getting actually out and doing some and be an active in some shape or form Gulf is a great way to to get to know people because you have to spend time with them if you're paying for them and just I just walk around air today. You know, you see eight year olds planet goes the national and potentially there's a potential masters champion in them eighty people that were here today. There's a good chance of a master champion of. Anna goes the national women's amateur champion as well. How would you describe the masters experience? It's just incredible. It never ever gets boring. First of all that drive down. Magnolia lane walking around practice facility to look at the place. It's like it's just Gulf heaven and. E could just see it in everyone's face. It's the happiest place irt, basically can like Disneyland, and you could tell everyone's really happy to be here in just a vibe around the place. Like Notre we all go to different golf tournaments. We see we know what it's like, you know, you watch it on TV. But there's something really special about this place. I was talking to Matt Wallace earlier on European tour players one three or four times in the European tour, and he'd just gotten his invite. This was his first time he got here this morning. He was talking nine year old like he was so excited, you know, sir. Nick Faldo was going to take him out show him the ropes around goes to national and he was Bose enough that like being here. He couldn't believe how looked the same thing that everyone says, I can't believe how undulating in the courses and stuff like that. He was talking about that walking, Amen Corner. And I was like duck as one multiple European tour events and he's excited about this. It doesn't get old and you can see even when our needs to come here. And when Jack turns pair Gary Player, they have that look into right? They don't. Have for most of the year. You know, you said something that struck me that drive down magnolia lane. You realize Nile most of us who come here drive down magnolia lane. Very I've not experienced that. And the vast majority of people listening that haven't what are the emotions for someone who has the opportunity to drive down. Magnolia just you're in the car for the people of the gates open you get leading. And it feels like the car goes into slow. Mo you take your time your old onto windows, you have proper look overhanging trees, you could see cloak host. With the Augusta logo the national logo roundabout in the middle. And you could just feel like the history and the go like literally failed them like. Yeah, it's it's a special. I wish everyone could do. But it'd be a congested justed lane to your point. There are so many indelible memorable moments from the masters golf tournament. What is your moment? What is the moment that you point to say? That's my moment for my generation tiger guy, man. Yeah. You know me. Tigers chip in and sixteen thousand five throws in five. I mean, one the best moments full-time Nike about ten years. Put a like he was just such a dominant force around those years throws and three thousand four zero five six that's when he was making moments like that when it mattered pulling off shots like that. Just. He's he's he's on believable. What about what about his comeback talk about miraculous yet? He told me last year before this tournament that there was a lot lengthy period of time when he couldn't even get out of bed. I mean, his back. He was in so much pain. He couldn't even lay in the backyard and watch his kids kick soccer ball around. And now he's back as a tournament winner in coming into the two thousand nineteen master's tournament. There's going to be a lot is looking at that guy's game. One hundred percent when you're that good. Even if even if you lose it for your injured, or whatever I bet he was thriving off the fact that everyone was saying he'll never win. Again. A bet he was in his head. He was going Goodwin. What's this? And he didn't just win a regular event. I mean, he wouldn't deter championship poor rose. Rosie goes into the season long thing wins the fed ex cope, and there you have ten thousand people going down to fair way. Eastlake anything like that? I mean, it was closest thing I've seen too. You're so close with Rory mcilroy. So I had to laugh watching his basically looked at tiger. And said man, this is yours. I'm out. What does he told? You about that moment. He said, he just couldn't believe it. I think what we always think about Arnie's army all those famous voters of him walking up the team to send under well eighteen here in the crowd coming in behind him. That was the closest sport like gulping moment is into that. And Rory was just like in ROY head. He was just like, I the reason I played his games because of this man, and I'm standing next to him in the final and the final group, but as lake welcome don't unders-, you know, trampled on. He was just like I'm getting here before we get killed. He said they were trying to stay defines translated close out our pockets and take the ball out of pocket, and you know, said it was chaotic. I don't think you'll be forgetting that one. No, what a moment that that moment with that scene is a forever as a copyright. That's a forever moment. He won't be forget one. Another interesting moment for you, certainly as pertain story was two thousand fifteen you had the great opportunity to caddy for him in the par. Three contest. What was that experience? Like, I was crazy. I monster's. So I write up here on. The thing that might be here for a practice round on Tuesday. I'm not wrong. And then Rosie auroras at me in the weeks coming up to do you want to do departs honed percent? Absolutely. Yes. And then I got here put onto boiler soup, and I didn't realize until after his Cutty at the time JP had had filled up the by tons of these there were just lows vikes carrying a full set. He used to clubs. I think us fifty eight degree in an irt for the whole nine hold. But if I was carrying the world Shelton. That moment where I fell over and live on television. Which is not great. I won't be able to live that one down. You'll never live that was carrying full way it by on one shoulder and pine Sol angulate that math doesn't work. Just a physics work. Yeah. I won't be living that for a while for them still in take away from the fact that I carry Rory mcilroy at at the par-three it goes, the how did your countless millions billions of fans react to that moment. I mean, just been taking the Mick out of sense everywhere. I go if I go and TV show, it's brought up if I do anything sport related right now example here. It always gets brought up. I mean, it was it was my hands tripped over as fellow ver slid over slid down a hill with a bag of Michelle. There's nothing I can do about it. It's game over its there on YouTube forever. Sadly, it was pretty graceful thing. Thing. It looks in slow MO. I know too that you've used the game for philanthropic endeavors you and Justin Rose, your friend. And you guys did a gal together. Yeah. How did that come to be in transpire? We're obviously good friends speak, the Rosie most days a week. No, we're good mates. And we were just like, how do we we wanna do a charity event and straightway? The first thing came to mind was we need to give to the cancer research of some sort charity and Rosie losses to cancer his wife. A loss a parent. Also, he's got he's got kids. First of all, you know, we all know, I have my own of cancer, my granny died concert, or you know, we all sadly, no someone that's died of cancer. And that just seems like the right place to go. So we went with cancer research UK kids and teens because that's where it seems to hit home more. When you see kids like, I do a lot of work or do meet and greet and go to hospitals and stuff like that. And you watch like a six year old child center cancer is just horrendous. So we decided that we're going to do that. And the way we bring music and Gulf together is pretty cool on the night. It's out of. We had a perform to we've done it twice. We do it. Every second year, we had a performer I perform this year. Rosie gets open this year. He had more fire the British runner and Sadko who is the, you know, the head head of the Olympic Committee for the British Rosie win in the Olympics. They had like a tall and we do a big auction. Where of see we're able because of the Gulf Orland Costa music world, how strong the are. We can get some amazing all comprises. So over the last couple of years we've raised like two million dollars from the night. And when when I look at it's the least we can do a lot of preparation to goes into it and hands on for everyone. We literally just turn up in the night put a suit on opening a few songs sit. There's Rosie does does this talk. And we raise a lot of money and thank God that we can do it in that fashion because it's a it's an amazing feeling after when you look at the figures, we've raised I know that when you perform every night, you get to see a legion of people who adore you. And what you do. But I. Can't imagine. There's a greater feeling of fulfillment that night at that gala with that impact. Yeah. For for both of us. You know, as I said, it's it's a great charity and actually just just insisted worked. A lot with them with cancer research UK's. Well, that was it was an easy one I to pick. But yeah, there's nothing better than here in where the money goes known where it goes first of all that's a lot of time with people which already debate loads of money, but they don't think it's going to get there at the right spots with this is during the Torius for doing the right things with their money. That's tonight. And it was just great failing. There's nothing like you can win as many PGA tour events, you can get up as you say when awards play forever. There's something special about how many places on earth. Can you go and walk freely and take it in and not be? I don't wanna use the word bothered, but not be bothered fair enough it imagine a Augusta National must be one of the very very few. That's my favorite thing where. Bunn cell phones here. You're not bring your cellphone on property. Not may not anyone not the members. No one's loader fallen on on site. And that's great because I can just walk around. And, you know, people come up and say, oh, but there's you know, we can have a chat or whatever that's one Jaipur. Right. Sure. Because everyone wants to fold or graph which is fair enough. But it's nice to actually send around and watch bells and talk to people book and. This basis special refugees. I always say one of the greatest things about Augusta National is you are truly immersed in the tournament hundred your present in the moment because you're not looking at it through that iphone lands. Exactly. It's beautiful. Yeah. I try and do that may concerts as well. Try and get people to stick their phones. Pockets because memories are for life and pictures for when your memory card Instagram, never when your memory card goes that's gonna just have the memories then. So it's just a special place and hope that keep the hope to keep inviting me back because I like it here last thing, and I'll let you run. That little guy hitting those chips after breaking through that fence we've discussed. To have enjoyed the professional career. You've had and the conic brand. You've built that allows you these folks to want you to be here as an ambassador of something you grew up dreaming about what would that guy? Chip in those balls say about this guy. That's sitting right here. He'd be laughing at him. He won't believe it was going to happen. Just like, yeah. It's crazy like a complete says, confess golf note. And there's no about replace to be a Gulf note that goes the national. So when you get invited here, it's just the greatest fatal in the world and to see to be in the bus eter for Dr chip and potentially now with the the national women's amateur. They're changing the game here to go step, and I'm happy to be part of it. Thank you for being a part of thanks very much. The game of golf in desire to grow. It is so palpable when you chat with him about it. He lights up when he's discussing not only playing the game. But growing the game you could hear it with what he said about the young ladies who played in the inaugural, Augusta National women's amateur what he said about how passionate he is about the drive chip and put contest what he says about those relationships. He's built with several players including Justin Rose. And of course, Rory mcilroy. I find it hilarious that golf bag back in two thousand fifteen was full of waters and Nile just a quick word. I know you're listening to this. That's what real friends do. They set out to put you in those types of positions. Speaking of great friends. It was such an honor and a joy to spend time with migrate friend in BC's Mike to Rico chatting about his master's experience. He's been coming to Augusta National since nineteen ninety. Seven one of the most notable iconic masters of all time. It was also wonderful to discuss with him calling the first ever Augusta National women's amateur tournament and what he'll be doing during the weekend. He'll be in a perch at the eighteenth green calling the masters for Westwood One radio to Rico has a lot going on. Here's my conversation with him NBC broadcaster like to Rico. Let's just start you've had the most distinguished career. You've had the opportunity to cover World Cups and Olympics and Monday night football for a decade with ESPN and all of these wonderful experiences. Where does the masters rank and what differentiates the masters? I'm getting old. I've been to a lot of on and off now twenty two years coming here. So let's take you back in my personal history for ten seconds not to bore folks too much, but I got the opportunity start covering golf ABC. See in nineteen ninety seven and that time, I was still working at ESPN, and they thought because my connection with the PGA tour now covering golf. It would be great natural extension to have may be part of our sportscenter coverage at the majors which start with our coverage. Here the masters, and that was also the Tiger Woods had that went for the ages. That was described it. Yeah. So ninety seven was more than a good year to get started on my time in the game. And my time coming to Augusta National and it never gets old. It really never gets old. And you've watched the area the golf course evolve and change and yet as a lot of the settings around here change, they don't completely change they adjust. They evolve they have to fit the time who would have thought ten years ago. Let alone ninety seven we'd be sitting here doing a master's podcast. But one thing I think is external misconception of Augusta National than I had until I got here and learn the his. History of the place. Learn what the founders of Augusta National really wanted from the club in the turnament. This place has evolved, the golf course has evolved. It's very different from when it started essentially thirteen and fifteen or so those dramatic holes twelve and sixteen of the drama the short par threes that are world renowned but things have changed involved. Over time in the masters has stayed with currency as the preeminent event in this sport. And you put it up with any other sporting event in the entire world. So I love coming back. And now have a little history to watch that evolution firsthand. It is not easy to evolve. The way that Augusta National has in the masters tournament has and maintain spirit, right? They've managed to maintain spirit from beginning until presence. How'd you describe that challenge? Best tournament for the players that was part of the early charge of of Bobby Jones and Clifford Robinson. Bobby jones. Co founded Augusta. The national. It was some of that. And then when the patrons were here, it was given the best possible experience. And I was tell people, you know, we all get asked when we're lucky enough to come here all the time. Hey, first time or what should I do? Should. I do this. I say take twenty bucks and go to sandwich and some chips and a beer get it for you. And the person you're with and you're gonna come back with change. I can guarantee you there are about seventy five percent of the sporting venues that you can get just the beer alone or the beverage alone hot dove, a hot dog, and you're you're not coming back with a lot of change at twenty especially if you do for two, and it's just the greatest experience as for the players inside the ropes for the patrons outside the ropes for any for us in the media. This media center that we're sitting in its state of the art I told folks what I came through the first time, I said, I think you should have every sporting event just the cameras routed. To Augusta national's media center, and we have all this and all the stuff we can do with three d glasses. This whole what's just artificially. Put a hologram of the people after their games right up there on the on the desk, and let's just cover every sport event here because this media building is the finest in the world, let's say it because I'm here. I think Mari we talked about this before we got started people say that a lot in a what why do you say these things about Augusta National because when you experience it, it's the truth. It's hard to get here as a player as to play the game as a guest as a member as a member of the media. But when you get here, I challenge you to find any place in the world where you are treated better you noted nineteen ninety seven. Unbelievable moment in the history of this wonderful tournament. What was the impact of that moment? You know? I think a lot of stuff the impact for the moment was going to be changing the face of golf, and we'd see more minorities in the game. I think what it truly did to the game of golf it made golf cool. It brought guys who were football players basketball players to say, you know, hey, you could be the biggest star in sports if you're a golfer in this day and age in the day and age of the end of the Michael Jordan championship run number one had common was starting run number two right in the middle of it ninety six ninety seven ninety eight with the bulls, and you had somebody who had come out of nowhere with all this hype of winning all these amateur amateur championships and three in a row US ams after the consecutive junior M's, and he arrived tiger on the scene and what he did here by just blasting past the feel. With all the expectations. It sent a message that you could be the biggest in sports in golf. And I think that's why we've seen a physical evolution of the players who are the best players in the world. Now, the height of the average golfer. I remember when I first came out here on tour and ninety seven you can look a few guys in the eye. Now, Dustin Johnson Brooks kept going like, don't, you know, they're grown men. Don't tackle me. Now you guys who've complained basketball football baseball, great athletes, coming to golf. It's all golfers the password, good athletes, just those elite athletes who had other options to be high high level high end performers were coming to golf, and we got my mom, my grandma, the guy who never watches golf to come to the TV because there was this special athlete with a very unique back story who did it look like the rest of the other golfers who are out there doing credible things. And if that in fact help you bump into. My gosh. Phil Mickelson's incredible. Or this player that player became your favourite than that was good. So I think that was a a shot in the arm and a boost for the game which needed at the time. But I think on the long arc of history. What we didn't see when we left here in April of ninety seven was that tiger was gonna make golf cool and bring a lot better athlete to the game. Was that the moment for you ninety seven? What's the match for my masters moment is still Jack because it was a time when I had grown up around the four major sports football basketball, baseball hockey, I grew up in New York City. So I didn't have the necessary exposure to college sports that I would gain. I went to college at Syracuse later on my time, but golf had just been introduced me little bit by my uncle who was a father figure to me growing up and he loved the game. He was big Nicklaus guy, and he interlocked grip because nNcholas and all that stuff. You put out of a crouch and look at kind of one I do all that. And that Jack Sunday charge was one of. Those that I think was reminiscent of what a lot of us thought tiger last year was going to be when tiger made the run head the lead at the open didn't close Molinaro wins had a chance at the PGA those moments where a lot of us who have kids who are now somewhere in that fifteen to twenty five neighborhood. We were saying, hey, you need to watch this. Because this is what it was like, and you have a chance. One more time to see the greatest of your era, perhaps all time win one of the biggest tournaments and for me. Jackie eighty six was that I tend generally remember as a teenager Jack winning at Baltusrol later career and adding to his major titles, but Jackie Eighty-six here. I was now soon to be eighteen years old. And I we're going to I'm going to remember that I knew the legacy and the allure of nNcholas to watch it and watch it happen at Augusta to me that is still my moment. Because it was that moment that I fell in love with golf. Wow. This is really really cool and something. Special one last thing about tiger. A lot of people are going to be looking at him this week as a player to beat what percentage chance would you have given a couple of years ago that that since would be uttered. So I thought if he ever played well again that this would be the place. He would have the best chance at winning here. And at the open, depending on which course, in the road of the open was being played at and I thought that because I think more than any other major championship local knowledge pays you so many at Augusta National lungs you can hit it a prerequisite distance. We saw Fred Couples while still not playing a big deep volume of great Gulf because of his back injuries. Freddie, come in here. And he chewed a really good round. And there were more times than not that we'd find Freddie and Butler cabinet Friday afternoons about having a chance to succeed if his back could hold up. So I thought tiger got back to enough healthy golf that he could compete that. This would be the main place. Do you think he would think you were? There was a time. I didn't time. I thought he was DIVY those time all of a sudden he was deeded. Exactly. Right. Exactly. And there was no no reason to believe there was any sign the golf game was coming back. But once we started to see a comeback. I said, I don't think he's gonna win another major. And if he does it would be Gusta, and obviously with how close he came at the open, and the PGA we think differently. I think the biggest hurdle after give all give you he's healthy enough to play as healthy enough to compete. The biggest hurdle is now depth of field. I think more own fault. In many ways are playing because of his influence in many ways. Exactly. So and they also. I think we're also separate almost answer. But there's a different generation of athlete. I don't think athletes today fear settings or opponents the way they did in the sixties or seven let me go way off to right field here when used to hear that the Boston Celtics had game seven at the Boston Garden book. It was this mystical deal of you don't see it all the time on TV the parquet floors. And I'm talking sixty seventies. Now the parquet floor has these dead spots. There's no hot water in the visitor's dressing room. All these mystical things now, there are no arenas left like that in spore. There are very few home field is like that. If there are you've seen them, all if you're an aspiring athlete in any sport. You have observed the career of every athlete because of proliferation of what we're doing right now conversations you sit down. I haven't said how Nick Sabin very often since he's been in Alabama. But I feel like. When when you guys go down and talk to them, if your college football coverage, I feel like I kind of know what how Nick Sabin thinks and talks feels and there are very few secrets now in sports. And I think all of that has taken the intimidation factor out. So in addition to the deeper feels I think the guys who get in contention. They know Tigers there, but instead of saying Ono Tigers on the leaderboard checking out they wanna have the one time in their life say Tigers right there, and I beat him. I'm gonna Brooks can say that forever. Tiger was playing. He was playing really good. And he wanna major championship that he was. So I think that's changed. It made it a lot tougher having said all that. I still think that he knows he's got maybe what three five master's left and most of what he does. While he loved to win the US Open again of the PGA, whatever. Right. That's right ear I full week in April. Let's go very rarely do we get you're talking about there not being a whole lot of secrets anymore. It's not everyday anymore in sport. Either where we truly watch history occur right now. In the present you got to see that. With the Augusta National women's amateur. What an amazing finish what an amazing moment. Not only for this tournament for these grounds. But for golf not allergy describe the impact. Marty. I don't think we knew what to expect. Because it first off to keep reminding everyone it is amateur golf. You've watched the US amateur for the the boys the young men that are playing, and you know, that's a notch below the PGA tour golf with major championship golf that was he's very good golf, but it's a notch below. And if you watch golf you have to understand this to be a notch down from what you see in women's professional golf to women's amateur golf. Then put a time ten factor like this on it of the thirty women who made the cut of the seventy two started twenty was still in college unbeliev. So you're talking about watching people play at the level of NCAA basketball tournament that's going on usually around masters time compared to NBA players. And now you're talking about players who have no experience. Here at Augusta National. We just talked about what's one of the big reasons tiger could still win your. It's the experience it's the local knowledge. And then you have the fear factor of the intimidation that's out there being the first group to play here and make. Great impression for this event. So I think you had all those things lined up. So I didn't know what we'd see at of all the scenarios. I thought I didn't expect ten under. Unreal. I didn't expect five under sixty seven for the winter. I didn't expect thirty two on the second nine. I didn't expect that stretch of holes that we saw the eventual winner Jennifer Cup show from Wake Forest play five hundred last six holes never expected any of that. And to be here and see it was so cool. And I'll tell you the reasons it was cool one competition which in the end of the day. I know you're kind of wired like me. I don't care. What sport it is? If somebody's keeping score and people are competing kind of like to watch and somebody right? So you got that. Let's forget that. It's Augusta National place that you only see true competition four days a year. Now, we're being given a bonus. We'll give him for being given a fifth day of competition on the most famous second nine in the world. And then. On top of that. If you have a certain age, I'm a dad who has a daughter who plays high school golf now, she's not gonna play at at high competitive level going forward, but she plays and his competitive with her team and enjoys playing and to see a role model for her of what golf can be or more importantly, more appropriately for the younger girls who are twelve thirteen fourteen to say, I can really go places in the sport as an amateur during my college days, even if I don't turn pro what a bunch of wows altogether. And he talked about narratives changing in one week in one event. And almost really one day. A lot changed with that event. That's a in the narrative began when it was announced. Yes, it was a landmark announcement. When for the entirety of these grounds. You said it four days. And now you add that fit. How did you react? I was. Suprised? Usually when the chairman of Augusta National holds that press conference that happens the week of the masters on Wednesday. Usually, it's the typical issues that you might expect the hot button issues in the game over a variety of years. We could pretty much forecast. What was going to be said? But when chairman Fred Ridley, the first address that he had in that role announced this event, it was a lot realize went up, and what it what it did as we went back, historically, and look really opened my eyes to two things, and it's come back to the one of the first thing you said Marty about this place, and that's the deep roots to the traditions of Augusta National amateur tournament. Here. Bobby Jones is the greatest amateur golfer who ever lived, and he stayed amateur. And that is inspired many many folks who were good amateurs to stay amateurs during their career. So now, you're having an amateur. German here Jones would love that. And because of past news and past history people immediately just blanched at a at a women's of 'em being held here. But when you look back at Jones, Bobby Jones was inspired by and guided in many ways by some of the top women amateurs of his time, some of his quotes, some of his stories some of the credit he gives for becoming a more calm golfer on the golf course some of the history of the work that was done with Alister MacKenzie for finishing this golf course. Trace back to some of the significant women of the twenties and thirties who were involved in amateur golf when the numbers were not very plentiful. But certainly those who were very significant. So when you really peel back this onion a little bit. This event has a lot of core values that trace right back to the most influential person goes to national and that's Jones. So start to understand that you go. Maybe. This makes sense. And this place has the loudest megaphones brought his platform to be seen in sports. And if the national can do it other clubs can do it couple more things, and I'll let you run. So you're going to be in eighteen tower. Right. I will be actually doing radio for the first time for one in their eighteenth tablets, so excited about all that what do you expect the challenge to be to paint a picture on radio for the listeners from your from your vantage point eighteen while excited about it. I haven't done that before for golf. I've done a lot of stuff for golf. I have not called it on the radio, and that's going to be a blast. Also for me to be sitting eighteen because on TV coverage over the years, whether I've been Butler cabin on Thursday Friday or watching on our set getting ready to go on the air. I have not seen all those shots come into eighteen now going to get sit there with Charlie rhymer and call the action on radio and watch it all play out. So as a kid, I'm really excited about that. But I also this the. The proximity. So close to the eighteenth green twenty whisper. So it's going to be one of those trees have you been seeing your Gulf boies who's the put at eighteen. So that's gonna be me. And that's okay. But I'm so excited to do it because I still think sports on the radio has this transformative quality to lately agree you working out. You're walking you're listening. You're in a car. Most of it. I think happens in a car, and it can be complete background noise or you can get lost in the description of what's going on. And that's up to the consumer. But it's up to the broadcaster with a complete blank canvas to paint the picture for you. There is no better place to use. As a canvas than Augusta National is pretty good one. It's a darn good one. So that is going to be fun. I'm really excited do something. I've never done before my career at this advanced age for me the chance to do. That's pretty cool. Well, I can't thank you enough for your time and insight. So humbled by everything that you just said and all that, you know, and your wonderful book of knowledge of this event and having been here for more than two decades. Sh- keep that quiet after tell anybody else except for everybody listening. I'm trying to age as gracefully as you're going to. But I will say this the for the people who've never been to Augusta National when you hear a lot of us in very Reverend terms. Talk about Augusta National the simplest thing. I can say is if you get golf, then you get to national and the chance to come here may take someone who doesn't get either one and turns around to a believer. And I spoke to someone who came here for the first time Saturday for the national women's amateur, and they got done they said they were exhausted. But they understand now why we all talk about this place like this. I'm so glad that more and more people have the opportunity to hope if you're listening. If you ever have the chance to be here keep keep sending in that law. -tory one year. It's going to be your time. And when you do it'll be worth every second of the weight. Thank you. So Chrissy, mardi gras work. But. Mike's perspective on anything sport and life for that matter, but his resume is so impressive. You heard what we said there? He's called everything that's anything in the world of sport. Whether that's World Cup soccer. Whether that's the Olympics, and certainly all of these years as a integral part of the media core for the masters tournament. Here at Augusta National love his perspective on everything sport. Now, let's move over to my conversation with Eric Anders Lang who only recently has fallen in love with Gulf. And boy did he fall hard. It's interesting. What we get into in this conversation about why it took him so long to find the game. And oh, yeah. He also got to play Augusta National one year ago when he won the media lottery. Here's my conversation with Eric Anders. I'm staying relatives. Thirty thirty my life is so enveloped in golf. I don't feel new to the game. But yes, only been playing for about twenty something percent of my life twenty percent of your life. Okay. So how have you improved during that time is this a dramatic improvement. Or are you like the rest of us and go out there and hit it all over the reservation? Pray. I mean, I think improvement is difficult way to measure golf as you sort of grow up with the game. However, whenever you start it. I think that I still have the capacity hit as many bad shots, and I still have the capacity as many good shots. I think it's kind of for me the best way to measure improvement is in just sort of. When you watch a pro hit a bad shot. They sort of just take it. And then they move on. And I think that's a great standard by which amateurs could potentially play the game knowing that maybe they're good enough to get out of any situation. So I'm not, but I like to think that dealing with the difficult shots is probably want something. I'd like to be. Great at what made you take up the game at thirty. Well, yeah, it's an interesting question because I I actually didn't like golf up until twenty nine and these about that is I didn't know anything about golf. I didn't even understand it. But it was my brother who's ten years older than me. He sort of was the eskimo right like gift asking me to play with him throughout his entire life in his childhood. And I was always like, no, I'm not a golfer. And then I don't really know. Exactly. What changed? But it was one day. He said do you wanna play golf with me and dad, and I said, no. And then it was like a weird like moment where I was like, why am I saying no, I don't even know what this is about was a pride. Interesting. I've never looked at it that way, you know, my brother, and I have a lot of differences of opinion. So it may have been that. I'm right and he's wrong. Maybe in the end. He was right. So now that you're infatuated with it addicted to it what's beautiful about golf. All right there. Right. We talk about how did I get into the game last year? I was here as a credential member of the media one of the proudest moments in my career, and my personal life able to bring my brother through the media center. Oh, man. How do you react? It was heavy. It was heavy because when I first found out about I guess to national and the masters. I remember I didn't understand it. I didn't understand what a major was. I didn't understand that Augusta was special or that the masters special because it's the same place every year. And when I told him that I wanted to play against the national. Seven years ago. He laughed, and it was really interesting to be here with him and just almost get emotional thinking about and I don't even know why. Well, you don't anyone who's been here once or thirty five times talked to Jim Nance about this. The reaction emotionally will strike you. You might not even expect it after several years the way that it hits you especially the first time, and especially when there's that bond that you've now built with a family member someone like your brother, and when you can offer a gift that is impossible to buy it is that much more special. So it doesn't surprise me that you had those emotions and that he had those emotions and that it was heavy. I can relate. I brought my wife and uncle here. I'd never been to the masters is the same as you, man. I came in two thousand fifteen for the first time, I didn't play golf I didn't consume golf. I wasn't especially into the game. I'm sticking ball guy in hoops, and football and whatnot. And I was so taken with the atmosphere in the majesty, and how pristine everything is and the kindness in the air that is extremely foreign outside. These gates. We don't have that level of empathy for one another that you carry here. And I was taken by all that. And he cried really so I can he's this voracious golf consumer. He goes on all these trips with his boys, and you know, they do that whole seventy two over four days and drink beers and raise hell, then that's wonderful. But very foreign to me it could happen to you. Then it will. I mean, I'm inching my way there, but to see his reaction in the desire to walk inexperience each hole that the ghosts still woke was a fascinating viscerally palpable thing. Even for me, especially for him. Mm-hmm. We were just walking out number one here. And this isn't my idea Alexsandr, my friend from golf channel Alexander Lawson told me the way she perceived the masters because we were talking about how the tournament basically lives inside you and you rebuild it every year. So the first time I came to Augusta in the master's, I'll be honest, I didn't blow me away. But I didn't know enough about it at the time. So in the four years that a pass since that first trip here, it means more and more to me every year to the point when I go through the gate, a place that meant nothing to me at one point in my life, negative nothing. Now means more and more. And I know next year it'll mean more in the year after me more, and when I'm sixty I can't imagine that much to me. And now gender was saying that in some sense, the masters more than any other sporting event, perhaps is closer to a holiday in the sense that union man, it's family reunion. There's tradition, and what do you do together with those reductions and that time you basically, and this is not a knock. But you don't do anything. You just exist together and watch the story unfold each year in a different way. I couldn't think of a better way to put it and you were immersed in that story whereas everywhere else in our lives, we're immersed elsewhere. And we're distracted by technology. And by all of the minutia around us with that technology here you are four willingly forced to fellowship with one. Another look one another in the I listen, then having very many places man not anymore. When you watch any golf tournament or most sporting events on TV the action gets close to the crowd. All you, really see flashes and cell phones. And what's cool here is when you walk around you actually talk to people because people are available to be spoken to. And that is it takes a couple minutes to get used to. I love it wasn't. I think it's wonderful. I think we learned a big lesson from that from a larger perspective. But so you win. In the media lottery last year. I learned earlier this morning. So you've actually played here. I believe that's true. What was that? Like, you birdied one. Who are you man? Yeah. I mean, in some sense birding one is the is the hardest thing for me to do around golf, but we can get into that later. You get into hopes real quick. Now, I'm already one under. I could I could shoot five hundred today. That was around to over. I mean, what's it like, it's it's. The more time away from it. Now, we're almost three hundred fifty eight days since right? I'm kind of got like a running tally. Yeah. The the further away from it the more special it becomes and it feels like a dream. Well memories are strange. Right. You don't remember what actually happened? You. Remember what you feel like happens? Right. We are designed to remember being burned more than we are remember getting a good grade. And that's because biologically speaking, we shouldn't get burned. And so the memory of playing the national the Monday after the masters will continue to sadly degrade for me. And I won't remember it the way it actually happened. So I wrote down all the notes, and I recorded everything I could in the moment. But I mean, it's it's alternately that rare experience that we have in life that something's actually very beautiful and very sad. And there's a strange thing when you walk off of a very special round that you've been looking forward to for a while that you have to deal with the fact that it's over now, isn't that the beauty of nostalgia though? You just you just summarize nostalgia in the it's beautiful and sad. Simul tae. I seek nostalgia. I want to feel that emotion. I want to feel that Sinn sation. I try to find it. Whether it's like a song, or it's a moment or what not and certainly that stride film strip of our memory that you're discussing it's phenomenal. You're going to be telling your grandkids you shot six under man. And then I walked on the first two, you're right. I mean, I think I think to sum it up, and maybe a different way is that the wonderful part of being able to play here is that I was given an opportunity to educate my own experience of this whatever it is the masters organize. I don't know how you differentiate the two because for most people it's the same thing for a very few. It's different. But that that wonderful educational opportunity of learning about the game. How it's played and how it's thought of and how a single or as a group how we think of golf. I mean. That is such a privilege to have been given through luck. I believe the opportunity to see that first hand and to. You know, the in half to deal with all those feelings. I mean, try sleeping the night before that Sunday night was not asleep. I didn't sleep. I can't imagine. I mean, it is phenomenal. So essentially played here. The means you got to drive down magnolia lane. Something most of us can only see in our dreams. What's it? Like when you actually do it. It's it's honestly, I was very nervous strange. They remember very specifically. I didn't know what to do. I didn't know because that was the beginning of the roller coaster on Washington boulevard. Or is it Washington road road? Doesn't matter. You're Washington you're in a parking lot waiting for your time to go through the gate that doesn't matter. But once you take a write in my case, and you are admitted on the grounds and you begin going on Washington road. That is when the roller coaster goes click. Click click, and you realize that there is well, you're not going to turn back. But there's no slowing it down. At that point. I was listening to James Brown on the road. And it was raining that morning, and I remember listening James Brown. It fit perfectly obviously born in Augusta. And I. Turn the music down to meet with a security guard. And then as I started to go going lane. I remember I turn the music off because I was like was already too much Rolla winds down. Yeah. Roll the windows down. Yeah. Yeah. Have to and I got a little distracted because I could see the driving range on the left, which you don't get to see because golf you want to know those things too. But I mean, and then you're just you're just perpetually at that point just wanting to experience all of it as slowly as possible you want the food to come out slower. What are the colors like let's the air like well that was a perfect day. Right. Because as a photographer by trade color is best on a cloudy day. And so I was lucky enough to have a day with mist and cloud. So it was very rich and dense, and the only thing you really see magnolia lane is the yellow floral logo you see that. And but most of the day was filled with just intense green everywhere, you look I mean, there's a Little Brown a little grey. But it was mostly just this. Shades of green that just kind of you know, there's billions I'm sure where else have you been either professionally or personally that had the spirit that this place carries because despite the evolution of the property, and there's been dramatic Evelyn both of the tournament itself and the grounds here the spirit has maintained the spirit lives on from its actual inception until this very moment. You and I are sitting here. That's a challenge. How would you describe that spirit? Tough question. How would I describe the spirit of the nation? It's the air. I kinda you describe the air here. Well, the tricky part about that is that. You know, we as, you know, human golfers, right? We basically want I think to get in as natural as we can't. Right. We we want to play golf in places that are extraordinarily beautiful naturally to the eye. And the trick is though is that golf courses are not entirely natural, especially Gusta, right? I mean, it was built. And so the wonderful deception is that as you stand here. And as you marvel at the spirit, you are basically fooled. And you forget that there was you know, when it's done perfectly. You forget that it was a man that showed up and when it's really really done perfectly. You look out on earth. And you almost are probably going to laugh at what you're doing with a club. And I think that's the goal right? And when it's really really done, right. But it's very rare very, very rare. In fact, I was originally when you asked me to compare it. My thoughts went to Alaska I've never played in Alaska. Never step foot on a golf course in Alaska, but I've been to, you know, mountain Ali I've been fly fishing up there. That's kind of where I went that specific day with the atmosphere and the ribbons of like joy. Unfolding like, you just don't you? Don't see it. It's interesting. So basically what you're saying is the only place that can that can capture where the aesthetics. Meet the spirit is true natural wonder, you might one of the things that's about some of the spots on. The course there is aside from grass that's been manicured and a specific way and stones and pin. There is no evidence of mankind. And that to me I find very beautiful because there's something about it goes back to like Walden or something like you want to be completely isolated in nature. And that's something that I look for in a great golf course as well. When you're done with around you wanna hang out with your buddies in a nice clubhouse, which we have here as well. No question. Yeah. A lot of people said Grand Canyon interesting. Yeah. A lot of people felt like the wonder of the Grand Canyon was the only thing that they had experienced that rivals. This who I can't wait to listen to all the other interviews you've done. There are so many indelible moments in the history of this tournament. Certainly what what's your moment. What? The indelible moment for you. I look at who stays in albatross. I think that to me that has multiple aspects to it. I it was the first albatross on that whole it was the first to onto. I'm not a numerology. I think everything about it was ways to was that. It's not no one is expecting that. Like, you're expecting maybe hit the green and make a putt. And whereas on a par three. You're kind of looking at a hole in one, you know. And so you can't really do any better than a two on a par five. It's not really humanly possible. And so to me that one sticks out also really like he's got a great a role model. Both in the way, lives his life. And I love golf swing. That's a big thing for me. What about the way? He lives is life inspires you. I guess not knowing all the facts about his life. What I will say is in the brief interactions. I've had with them. These people are very busy as professional athletes. He's giving me the time of day. And that goes a long way because I've gotten the other side of it, which I'm sure alternately as factor of being pulled in thousands literally of directions at a professional event. And so I just know while I said again, not knowing what is day to day life is actually like, but knowing that he saw me as a person when he didn't have to that meant a lot to me. Absolutely. All we want us to feel welcome and wanted. That's what we want as humans this the human element, right? If someone had never been here and was coming here. What do you tell them? I mean. I think the only thing you can really say is, and it's sort of. I think the only really say is just take a deep breath and smile and say enjoy it because you will never ever get to experience it for the first time again. And that's kind of what I was getting earlier about. Playing here is you can't do that again. And so there's a lot of moments in life that you will never get to relive. Fortunately, some of them we are prepared some of them. We aren't that. When you're not. No matter what your expectations are exceeds it. It's impossible to encapsulate. What it is. With words. You have to see pretty fascinating. Thanks for your perspective. Brother. Thank you, very welcome up for sheet. It I wish you guys could have seen his reaction when I asked him if it was pride simple pride. Why he didn't fall in love with Gulf sooner it struck him and his reaction to that. Struck me. His passion for the game is obvious. It's infectious it's fun to see how wide eyed. He still is about the masters experience. I can relate because I'm still every bit as wide eyed as he is many of you can relate to that same emotion. Especially those of you who have come to the masters and Augusta National in-person your sales. There is absolutely nothing in the world. Thanks so much for listening to four please. Now driving the official masters podcast again, we're doing this every night during the tournament throughout the week until Sunday evening when someone puts a green jacket on his back. Good night from Gusta national goal here.

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Master of Golf: Annika Sorenstam

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Master of Golf: Annika Sorenstam

"That's what she said was Sarah. Spain has been brought to you by ZipRecruiter. Ziprecruiter, the smartest way to hire. That's what she said. That's what she said. That's what she said what she said. Well, that's what she said. Welcome to. That's what she said conversations with interesting people from the world of sports music, comedy and more talking about their lives. Careers successes and failures. Hey, everybody. Welcome to this extra special mini. That's what she said had an opportunity to talk to one of the great Sonica. Sorenstam ahead of the Augusta National women's amateur championship coming up this weekend. I hope you guys enjoyed the conversation. That's what she said. So happy to welcome in Sorenstam one of the all time greats eight time player of the year. Six time winner of the bare trophy for low scoring average a member of the world golf hall of fame on April six she'll be joining Nancy Lopez lorraina Ocho and Serie packed to participate in the special. I t ceremony ahead of the final round of the inaugural, Augusta National women's amateur championship. I'm super excited to talk about that tournament. But I want to start quickly Onondaga with the bigger picture. You're one of the biggest female trailblazers in sport. You retired just a few years ago in the time since you retired. And you look back at your career. How have you seen the treatment of an opportunity for women in professional sport across all sports change since you started out this, no doubt. It has changed. I think. It's I'm in a lot of it is, you know, thanks to social media also. But just a wariness the playing opportunities the exposure and just kind of the demand if you wanna say from from female athletes, you know, asking for for platform to show their skills, and and, you know, have opportunities to grow as individuals, and, you know, obviously with corporate support that, you know, give women opportunities to be successful. So I've seen it in sports. I've seen it. You know, an a lot of places to last ten fifteen years. Focus should be to help grow it, even more. Where should we be focused? I think we should focus not so much on just getting girls to you know, to try a sport. I think there are plenty of initiatives to, you know, give them a ball in their hands, or, you know, pick something around or, you know, just explore different opportunities. I think the hardest thing is to keep girls into the game. And that's one of the reasons why I'm excited about the, you know, Augusta National we miss amateur. It's it's you know, it's not beginners. Of course, it's it's a platform for these young girls to to dream big. And and to celebrate not this women's golf and women in general, but you know, really continued to inspire them to, you know, be successful. And I think that is really important. A lot of the great men's athletes end up forming little tribes with each other from all the work. They end up doing whether it's marketing or through events are there women in in other sports, or even in golf that you've established some friendships with and communicate with even after retirement I do keep in touch with the some of the players that I used to play with. But I agree that, you know, some mentoring programs and women need to celebrate other women's successes, and you know, it opens doors for others, and it makes others streams that there's possibilities. And you know, and I and I really think that's important. And I see that more and more how you know you rely on others to to you know, able to be successful. And and I think women needs a little bit more women are more. You know, we we do bettering as a group and to support each other's really important than you know, that's one of the things that I am excited about is you know, to to partner with. Bank of America with this tournament because they have a depatrurey of this evidence advancing women's economic opportunities. And that's what you know. It's close to my heart. Then we can do this through sports. We can do it through other ways. And this is a great way to start your Annika foundation clearly is about lending a hand in and helping lift up the the next generation of golfers. I read a fascinating thing that when you were a little girl in Sweden. You would intentionally lose junior tournaments? So that you didn't have to speak after a victory. It's hard to reconcile that kind of shyness with the person that you are today. Do you think that that was one of the biggest reasons that you got so invested in doing work on the mental side of the game? It probably am. You're right. I mean, I, you know, I still am quite shy. But you know, office giving me, you know, competence is giving me believe in myself. And what I do. And also, you know, confirming that if you have a dream, you know, dreams do come true. So that's you know, that's kind of what the foundation is is all about is providing these playing opportunities for upcoming girls that do have big dreams. Again. We we provide these tournaments to motivate them to inspire them getting them in front of other players with similar similar goals, and you know, similar visions of playing the game. And again, just kind of being there for them at this crucial age, you know, we're talking, you know, fourteen to eighteen years old where you just want them to continue. And and to understand that. Yeah, it's just a game. But also, you know statistics show that sports is is really important in in in women's kind of. Future. A lot of a lot of women in C suites. A lot of successful women have a sports background. And I think that that's that is so important. You know, something we can't underestimate them go I think can provide that in so many ways, and it's it's so neat to see these girl being who they are. And and I mean, it's it's inspiring to me to be able to help them. So it's been great. Have any of the top amateurs or even LPGA players reached out to you to help them with the mental side of the game. I've I've done some, you know, not not too much. I mean, but you know, just being part of they'll Peja, and you know, just last year, I was the captain for the European teams. So I'm Cup. So I worked with because few players and now able to guide them through a few things. And you know, I enjoyed that. I enjoy, you know, sharing my knowledge, and you know, my experiences to help them hopefully advance, and you know, going into that Wrexham they want. So it's been it's been very it's been fun, and you know, rewarding at the same time. So let's get back to this. Incredible. New Augusta National women's amateur championship. It's April thirty six. Tell me what you're doing with a Bank of America at the event. Yeah. No. So first of all I'm in. I'm excited about my partnership with Bank of America. And they stand for a lot of things that I believe in which I was stays in powering women, but you know, this is not something. Necessarily new for them. They've they've been involved in lots of different initiatives. But this is another platform pets from were sports. You know, really can get this message through how we can not just grow the game. But just energize young women to play the game. But then also, you know, again, thinking bigger thinking boulder, and so it's nice to see the commitment from, you know, such a big company, and they understand the importance of of you know, diversity and inclusion, and so it's been, you know, this is just the beginning of many things I think we can do together. There's obviously a lot of conversation surrounding Augusta National for years. It didn't desegregate until nineteen Ninety-one didn't add its first female members until twenty twelve this latest initiative to introduce this amateur tournament is a huge step forward. Was there any concern from you or anybody else in the women's golf community too? So quickly embrace this initiative because of their their kind of checkered past I don't think so I mean, I think you know, I saw this. This really was just announced, you know, maybe eleven months ago. This has come come about really quickly. I think that from a short-term perspective, you know, maybe it was a little bit conflicting with the LPGA. I know they wanted to be a part of it and so forth because you know, the women's first major is being played the same week they named Spiratou in. So, but from a long-term perspective, I think this is huge for for women's golf is. Historic for young players to walk. The fairways Augusta National the week of you know, the master suite the biggest week in golf and to be able to showcase their skill. I mean, I think it's just it's tremendous. And I mean, I'm excited for them. I'm excited for women's golf. And and this is just we all know that whatever the masters foundation do what you know, they they do it big. They do it. Well, and the long term effects are very positive you mentioned held during the same time as the an-and spray Shen, it's kind of a conflict for amateurs who might be looking to participate in that event versus having the opportunity to play at Augusta and might also split the audience. Why do you think they didn't take that into consideration? When scheduling, you know, I don't know the thinking behind everything, but it is again, a continuation of the masters week in a celebration of golf and this. This will now include women, so like I said on a long-term perspective this them in. This is great. And and every part of an I think in every part of the way you look at it. You know, not just girl scoff, women's golf. I mean, women in general women in business the partnerships that they have is just I I mean, if I was young girl this I will be all over this is fantastic. Right. And also because tickets are a lot more affordable than going to the masters. If you always wanted to walk the fairways at Augusta. This is this is a great chance to get in without the the same rush. How long do you think before women's masters? So the pros can get a shot at Augusta because I know a lot of the pros on social media reacted to the news of this with men shed, go back and try to get my amateur status and all that stuff. I didn't know, you know, you know, right now, I spend a lot of time working with young girls. And, you know, keep in mind, these young girls, they will be you know, I would say ninety percent of these will be professionals in the coming year. So this is the next generation. You gotta invest in the younger ones to to see the fruit down the road. So this is a good thing. The today. Do you think it's tougher to grow the game and sell the game without one dominant player and superstar around which you can build excitement and marketing, and if you look at the PGA today, I think our Commissioner Mike want he's done an excellent job. You know, really with a group of top players around the world. You know, it's it's very much a global global tour with players from, you know, New Zealand, Thailand Korea and the US. And so, you know, they he's done an excellent job promoting it the way we have. And so, you know, I think that this is a good time. They'll Pajeros ever been in this as far as part. Ownership viewership and players it's fun to watch. And I'm sure that, you know, the time will come when we will have you know, a dominant or two players going head to head. You mentioned in a tweet that fifty nine of the seventy two participants in this upcoming amateur tournament at competed in at least one of your article foundation tournaments. How many ornaments do you have an is that is that purely to add another bit of competition to maybe not a full slate of amateur competitions for for girls. Golfers. So we do have seven now this is we started our eleven th year with Donna ca- foundation. You know in the goal was to have a tournament and every corner of the world. And so we feel very very lucky that we have almost reached that goal because we're in waiting land where are in South America Argentina we are in China in Europe. And I was saying the US, and we have initiatives anything from six zero two college events. So you know, we we reach over six hundred girls every year. So you can imagine over ten years. We've been able to see a lot of these young players, and you know, obviously. Personally gives me a lot of. Well, it makes me smile to see that we have fifty nine of the seventy two players fifty nine. It's a kind of a coincidence. The number I guess on top of it. But to see them, you know, be invited to Augusta National women mature is just fantastic. I mean, a a built a relationship with many of these players I've seen them, you know, some of them for ten years to see them grow through aggress roots, and then to some of our initiatives, and then college event, and it's really neat. So it's kinda feel like it's come to full circle. And you know, just kinda justify all the commitment and all the miles. We put into you know, to inspire these place from around the world. How much do you still play golf? How often I don't play as much of? Of course, I still do a lot of corporate outings charity events. And you know, I go to every McCain vacation on on a collegiate then, and I do a demonstration or clinics and talk to the girls about, you know, my experiences, my knowledge and so forth. So it's you know, my shots don't necessarily have a purpose as they used to. But still hopefully the words that come along means something to them. Do you miss the competition side of it? Not really I mean now it's been ten years ten years removed from competition, and you know, other than my phone Dacian. And then my corporate partners. I do you know have two kids and a husband. I I like to spend time with so, you know, I feel like I got my hands full. But it's you know, golf is always meant so much to me. So I'm glad that I can continue to have a foot in the game. Now, you're on the slopes more. I can tell from your. Are you competitive in everything you do if you're out if you're out skiing or if you're playing tennis or if you're playing board games win? Yes. Yes. So. Yeah, I mean, that's I guess that's my nature. So sometimes it's good. And sometimes not so good. Yeah. I'm the same way. Sometimes sometimes you take a deep breath. Yeah. Couple couple speed round questions for you. What's your favorite course to play over? I've played pine valley in New Jersey. It was just been tested. What's your favorite club? Well, used to be my driver. Your most memorable round or tournament shooting fifty nine. That's pretty good one on your most memorably terrible round or turnament. Oh, turn to forget all the bad shots and all the bet tournaments. But there's not one that haunts you that like pops into your head every once in a while, you gotta shove it out. Yeah. I mean, I'm course, you know, we don't you don't win every tournament. As a matter of fact, you know, you lose more than than you win this. They say I try not to look at it that way other than new hopefully, learn from your mistakes, but you know, one tournament I mean, I've had a few runner ups ref at like, I should have kinda clinched it. But you know, I come back with revenge, or whatever you call it because you know, it makes it more hungry. Who was the toughest competitor to face? Let's see car web was probably my toughest during my career. What thing do you miss most about being on the tour? I do I think the competitive the flow the Drennan that's exciting. And you know, of course, some of the people who was your closest friend on the tour. Closest friend, ROY. I actually keep intestinally go quite a bit. So yeah. And San Pederson to name a few Carlotta Ciganda and Norquist is kind of a neighbor. Who's your favorite to watch on the PGA tour right now my favorite so young park. She's episode to be number one. Dislike the way, she's she's wings. And just kind of go about things who's your favorite to watch on the PGA tour. Well, I'm gonna Tiger Woods fan Fisher. But they could a few there. I I enjoy watching Justin Thomas, I think I love the way he plays. I'm a big Jordan speed. I I think that there should be more chest, bumping and golf No, he's he's another great guy with Ricky Fowler there. They probably have a handful. That's just fun to watch personalities. You mentioned tiger. Are you surprised that he made it back in and his in his competing? Absolutely. Yeah. No, I didn't think so considering you know, all the health issues has back problems. And you know, the surgeries he's had. I mean, they're not they're not minor surgeries. They were big surgeries and come back with kind of the power and club head speed. And and also being away from the game. And then kinda wanna come back. I mean, he does have you know, children and businesses and still have the hunger to play. That's you know, I admire him for that. Do you think we'll see him when another major, you know, what I've I didn't think it was going to come back. I was wrong. So now, I'm not gonna you're gonna put my money on on on on anything that he does. Well, we'll be looking for you on that April six joined the fellow greats to do the I t ceremony. Anything else you're participating in relation to that amateur championship. I'll be there literally the whole week certainly to support the players, and you know, support the initiative in Iraq, but them, and and you know, just kind of celebrate women's golf and the tournament. Have you played Augusta before I have. Yes, I've been lucky to do that. If you times was it is magical as everyone makes it out to be. Yes. I also were you're designing courses. Are you still doing that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. As a matter of fact, we have a few in kind of in the work. So my latest that would just finished was on a Palmer design co design in Minnesota, Minneapolis. And I did the the front nine he did the back nine. So they call it the king and the queens. So that was yeah. That was a an amazing experience. If you were sending someone to just one of the courses you designed where would you send them well US, that's my one and only, but if you feel like traveling a little bit around the world have one in China one and South Africa and one in South Korea. So you pick. Okay, I'll go to all of them. Then I'll take off work next year on a good. Thanks so much for the time. Enjoy the Termine everyone will be looking forward to seeing this sort of historic event. I appreciate you joining me. Absolutely. Thanks there. Sometimes all you really need is a quickie. That's what she said.

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Coming in April

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19:41 min | 1 year ago

Coming in April

"Please. Hello, everyone Marty Smith here. Welcome to four please. Now. Driving the official masters podcast. Our very first foray into podcasting world from the masters tournament. At Augusta National Golf club will be producing a podcast every single day from the tournament starting on Monday, April eight all the way through someone winning a green jacket on April fourteenth. We will push those out every evening around nine o'clock or so so that you guys can have a very intimate very unique inside immersion to the masters tournament. Unlike you've ever had before, and I get the great blessing of being the person to bring you that podcast. I'm honored and humbled beyond belief to have this opportunity. And it's going to be a unique experience. We will. Each day interview a couple of celebrities from the world of sports and entertainment about their experience during the tournament. And one thing that we want to do is find out what it's like the first time you have the opportunity to walk in the gates at Augusta National Golf club. What it's like to be a patron. I remember interviewing Tiger Woods before last year's master's tournament. And asking him what it was like the first time. He won the tournament that night. I am going to sleep with it as my blanket, I cut up next to and I was holding a little blankie, thus how much meant to me. I mean, I really did to win win the masters, and to do it there, and to do it, you know, with my dad's still alive that was awesome. I'll remember two thousand five when he hit that chip on sixteen now here it comes. Oh my goodness. In your life. Have you seen anything like that? Was a shot heard round the world that was a golf shot that prompted today stars to chase the game. I know that because Tony female told me that himself and you talk about tremendous masters performances. What about what fee now did last year? He had the wonderful moment of hitting a hole in one during the par. Three contest on Wednesday. And then celebrating by backpedaling down the fairway blowing his ankle apart popping it back in place. And then having to completely change his swing over the next four days. He had spent his entire life in Utah. Dreaming about the opportunity to play in the masters on the eve of that opportunity on the eve of realizing a childhood dream, and it may be dashed. And yet he comes out shoots a sixty eight on Thursday in a tremendous. Performance on one leg and ultimately ties for tenth overall. In his first masters moment, I dream of my whole life to see the possibility of slipping away, and when I feel ready to compete and play against the best players in the world is tough. When they told me I was clear to go as long as I felt okay? I knew I was going to play. I can't wait to sit down with your favorite athletes musicians actors and learn about their first experience at Augusta National and not just those who've only experienced it once or a handful of times every single time you go. It's a spiritual moment, including those folks who've done it for quite literally half their lives. I had the great opportunity to catch up with legendary CBS broadcaster, Jim Nance, whom most of us consider to be the voice of the masters tournament about his perspective. On these hallowed grounds. Business. Two years now, mardi that just have certain personal rituals in places and moments that blood the mind with great warm feelings, it's still hard for me to get over the fact as time marches on that I was actually there broadcasting Jack Nicklaus's six green jacket, it just now that I'm fifty nine to know that I was in my mid twenties back then and getting back to one of your earlier points at Frank's you're kidding entrusted me to be on that broadcast. I was just a kid three and a half years removed from graduating from college, and and I had to put some captions together for one of the most significant events in the history of the game. Maybe the most important or best ornament of all time. And you know, Jack is you'll recall very nearly not getting off the tee. At sixteen and it came trickling off the hill the slope just beyond flag. Hi. And it looked like it was going to go into the whole. And I could still just being frozen at the moment. What he's saying? I said nothing which was the right play Franken give me a long soliloquy about make sure you remember silence is a sword called it a weapon, he thought it would bring strength to broadcasters credibility, if you were spare and you had pauses and layouts during stretches that where the action was falling in in your hands. There weren't cut around to other holes. He thought people would hang on more to what you were saying if you spoke, not only slowly, but sparingly and don't be afraid to ever say nothing. So I like to go out to six. Teen and revisit that important moment in time personal important moment in time. I just wanted an eighty six to be accepted. So that I can come back and do it again in nineteen eighty seven. And I thought might be one and done. Fortunately, they've they've invited me back thirty some odd years again. And again, and I love that feeling like you're dropped out of the world when you're on the grounds there and choosey Wednesday for me of masters week. Are is a wonderful time. Now, I'm not gonna kid you especially as I get older. I am almost flat on my back tired. I'm coming off the NCAA basketball tournament, and I've called in this case it'll be fifteen games now in the last twenty two days and that includes the championship game. But it's the early round action where you're calling six games and forty eight hours in all the preparation that goes into all of this, and it's exhausting. Now. You get to Augusta in it's a swish pan mentally for you. You have to be transitioning and letting go of one shining moment and all that stuff that came with this basketball festival because this week is to important, it's my best and biggest and favorite and again most important week of the year. So Tuesday and Wednesday. I'm kinda getting the cobwebs out, and I like to walk around and see people see the players that are in the fee. Field. Trying to pick up some last second information, you know, no cameras rolling with me, though, note and pen in hand just catalogue in my brain, I like to walk down to Amen Corner every year on Wednesday once the par three tournament commences and the big courses closed. I I like to go down to Amen Corner and walk across the HOGAN, Nelson bridges and say a prayer thanks on the twelfth green done that every year. So those were important times for me. And I just I feel a great sense of gratitude in my heart for being able to be there to be able to connect my youth with the presence and to see the dream come true. And I never wanna like that never will take any of that. For granted. So twelve and thirteen is a is a place where I really sense it feel it. It's just become a ritual for me and. This this prayer for introspection and appreciation it carries. With me carries. I carry it with me the rest of the week for someone who may have never walked those grounds. The way that you've been blessed to how would you describe what they might experience? Well, for people that go to the masters for the first time or sometimes I hear from people that are about to go play Augusta for the first time, and they wanna talk about what's it gonna be like you try to tell them. And of course, the the superlatives after a while. To describe it. You've just run out of them. You can't come up with enough to do Justice to it. But you never worry that you're over. You're delivering expectations that that cannot be met. And I've never failed to hear anyone anyone ever come back to me and say, you know, so excited about going to the master's first time, but you don't have to all the build up over. It was okay. It wasn't quite as great. As everybody said, which happens most things that get height or get built up. You know, you can never meet that level of expectation, but the masters you can't you can go to the you can reach for the sky, and as high as you want people are still going to like everything is going to be met. Everybody's gonna reach that level of greatness that you've described I don't know many things in the world today that deliver every single time as much as the masters. Variance for people. That's just a brief snippet of a lengthy wide ranging conversation with gymnasts, and you guys will hear the entire conversation next week when we're live from the grounds at Augusta all week long with the four please now driving masters podcast. And I can't wait for you guys to hear that conversation with Jim he was no static. He was emotional. And so introspective about a one of a kind career that has been immersed in the masters tournament for more than thirty years, and I personally cannot accurately. Fully articulate what it's like to be there. I know because I remember my first time vividly. It's a spiritual connection with the grounds. It was the two thousand fifteen master's tournament. I went with my wife's okel jokey Khoza. I had the. Great opportunity to take him to the master. He's the most foray shis golf consumer. I know, and I know a lot of guys who loved the game some of my best friends loved the game. And I remember calling him to tell him that. I got us passes on a Friday to the masters. It took him ten seconds to say anything. And when he finally talked all he could say is that he was speechless. So he flies to Charlotte. And we go down to Augusta and we walked in there, and the vividness of the colors, the greens and the pinks and the whites is so striking. I had always viewed the masters through that foggy film strip of wonder I had watched the tournament my whole life with my father and seeing those great moments throughout history with my dad, and I was thinking about him as I entered those gates. And walked around with okel, Joe. And I can remember the look on on Joe's face as we followed tiger. And I remember being on nine as tiger chipped up there. And I saw the most amazing moment at the ninth green that really summed up the masters tournament for me. There's a very unique selflessness there and uncle Joe. And I were standing at the ninth green waiting on tiger to chip up to the green and finish out the whole, and we were gonna stay because Jordan speed was playing right behind him. And there were a lot of people who had the same philosophy. We did it was packed at the Knight. Green. We were probably seven rows deep of people off the green. So we're standing there. And there is a pair of older ladies who had their chairs parked there. They were probably three or four rows back from the green with their chair. Bears and they got up to go to the concession area. And these other guys got up, and they left they took their chairs with them. They were obviously following tiger. They take their chairs with them. And there were these two open spots. Right. Masai the green and I saw other patrons take their chairs and move their chairs to the front of the green. They took these ladies weren't even there. These folks take their chairs and move them to the edge of the green. And when those ladies came back they were kind of shocked like, wait a minute. Who who moved our chairs and a gentleman walked over took the ladies by the arm and walked them to their chairs which were now seated beside the green it was a wonderful moment to see in led me to this philosophy. There really is a unique selflessness there if you see trash on the ground you pick up the trash. And you put the trash in the bin because of the respect for the grounds and the respect for the event. You don't have your cell phone, which is beautiful. It's the one place on the planet earth where you aren't looking at the world through the lens of an iphone. You're actually experience the immersive wonder of being there. Your feet are planted in the moment, we don't do that very often anymore. And you have to do that at Augusta National not only because you don't have your phone, but because the respect that lives in the air there is palpable. One of my sweetest memories is as the day faded on towards sunset, and I wanna read quickly an excerpt of a piece that I wrote on ESPN dot com after the day on detailing for you I wanted to put it on. Paper because it felt so beautiful. Alkyl Joe has spent his entire life. Adoring the masters and adoring Augusta National and one thing that he desperately wanted to do with see every hole with his own is he wanted to walk those grounds that the greats of all time had walked, and he looked at me and said, can we please go for a walk? And I said sure man, this is your day. I want you to do everything that you want to do because we're never coming back here. Again. This was before I had the great blessing of covering the tournament for ESPN one of the greatest blessings of my professional life is being able to cover the masters tournament. I didn't think I'd ever get there. And so I said to him let's do what you want to do. So I wanna read this to you guys quickly because it really sums up that moment and the moment that is. The masters. Before we departed Joe wanted to walk the holes we had not yet seen the grounds. Crews were already out walking shoulder to shoulder like a search party looking for divots. They probably wondered why we were there walking all alone. Many of them said Hello to us with a smile as we walked the breeze picked up quite a bit. It was six thirty PM suddenly real time real life had that late afternoon. Six beers fogging about it. It looked like a dream as the evening, sun, ease west towards dusk, and the clean breeze rushed through the tops of these trees. The magic of the myth pierced me directly between the first and ninth fairways is a two hundred or so yard strip of pine needles. Garnishing row of thick Georgia pines that reach towards the heavens. These trees have seen some things. It was quiet from over the hill. There was a roar of applause in the distance. I shivered a bit. Cold chills in seventy degree weather. It felt spiritual. Like there was no one there. But Joe me and the ghosts that really sums it up for me. You can feel the ghosts one of the most special moments. I've ever had professionally was last year. It was Sunday. And I had been cleared from post tournament work. It was about two o'clock in the afternoon. And I was told by my bosses at ESPN that I was done for the day and done for the tournament. I could go home if I wished. I called my wife, and I said I'm going to be home a little earlier than I thought. But before I come home. I need a moment. I went to the concession stand. In a full suit about two beers. And I walked from the first fairway all the way to Amen Corner, holding those two beers. And I got to aiming corner, and I sat down by myself, and I had those two beers. In one of those beers was for me and one of those beers for my dad. And I'll never forget that moment. This term is very special to me. I'm very new to it. But it is so important to me. And I hope you guys will go along on this ride with us each day from the tournament. The interviews are going to be inciteful, and we hope to bring you a side of the masters. You've never experienced before. So thank you. We hope you enjoy it. This is four please. Now driving the official masters podcast. We'll chat with you as the wing progresses.

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Tuesday at the Masters

The Masters: Fore Please! Now Driving...

50:47 min | 1 year ago

Tuesday at the Masters

"Please. Hello everyone. Welcome to four please. Now. Driving the official masters podcast. I'm your host Marty Smith, we'll be recording all week long on property here. At Augusta National Golf club discussing the masters tournament with some of your favorite celebrities, athletes and entertainers this is Tuesday, April ninth. We'll catch up with world renowned shift. David Chang and chat about his love for the masters, and what he hopes to take from Augusta and implement in his own daily life, then we'll catch up with Stewart Cink who makes his return to the masters for the first time in five years. And then finally we'll finish by chatting with fashion experts and husband and wife. Sid an Mashburn. So without delay. Let's turn off of Washington road proceed down the famed magnolia lane. Get to it. Here's David Chan join now on the four, please. Now driving official masters podcast by David Chang. He has. So many titles. I have to read them off a piece of paper American restaurant or New York Times bestselling author TV star founder of the Momo Fukui restaurant group pronounce that right? Okay. Very good. Last year. He created and starred in ugly delicious on net flicks. Let's start with Esquire magazine. Brother. They called you one of the most influential people of the twenty first century what how about that? Yeah. I don't understand what's going on. That's what that's how you get. You get into masters. Sounds overrated. Now, it's a it's been a crazy ride and nothing's more surreal than being here with you right now. I know national I experience right? Yes. How would you describe what you've experienced surreal in the best possible way because I've been watching this tournament, and I played golf younger. I don't play anymore competitively. And this is the only Gulf thing that I was still partake are watch. Right. Yeah. Because it's it's like more than golf, right? It's I think very separate than the rest of the tournaments that are out there. And I can appreciate it for everything else. Right. The beauty of it. The the tradition. So I've had a couple of opportunities over the years, but it just been too busy with work. So when this opportunity rose, I was like, yeah. This is weird. I can't believe they're that. I'm gonna get to come here. Not just be a fan which would be tremendous in and of itself. If I get to be here talking to you, you noted a couple of factors that separated from other golf tournaments and other sporting events and other American institutions, it's an American institution. What are some of those separating factors? It's the civility, right? Even now they wanted things that estranges people love experiential things now, whether it's live, concerts or sporting events, right? But it's sort of a release or the fans, and it's can be like pandemonium. And this is the opposite of that. It is there but everything's measured. Everything is reserved. But it's not subdued. It's strange to see everyone on their best behavior. I've never seen anything. Like, no. I agree. It's crazy. We're just from walking in this morning. I'm in the first wave of people, and they're the security guard is like don't pass that line ever say, yes, sir. All good. And then everything just orderly, and I feel when people want this. They want to know etiquette. And it's just strange to see that here. But what's that tell you because that's so much deeper psychologically, that's so much deeper because I feel like I'm a broken record for fans of this podcast who have listened to each show. I've said this to each guest because everyone is having the same emotion that you are right now. And I know this because I lived at myself just a few years ago that the respect for the grounds and the reverence for the event permeate us as human beings. And we thereby disseminate that same respect to our peers one hundred percent, it's beautiful thing. It's gorgeous. I mean, this is going to sound like crazy. But it's like, oh, it almost restores my faith in humanity a little bit because you like people can be nice to each other people will be courteous, people can dress a little bit better. It brings out the best of everyone and most Pacific -ly. No one wants to be denied entry because. They didn't act the best version of themselves. It's a sporting event is it's more than that. So it's hard for me. It's not ineffable. I've just this my first time here. So there's a lot of emotions because you finally get partake in this. And you're like, wow. And everything that this place is about is about excellence in a very excellent to the best way possible because it's not showy. That's that's that's amazing because they make all the small things matter, and that's any excellent organization winning sports team business. They do all the things that don't necessarily matter. And they do it better than any amazing. I can't say enough about it because I'm never seen anything like it, quite frankly, you use the word emotion. What is it? What is your emotion? I think goes emotions it's intertwined with experienced. But it's also a singular thing. My motion is is very rare that you get to see something best in class and be immersed in it. And that's what it is. It's like like being or watching a great basketball team. Or when you see a great athlete do something. Excellent. It's they're not just excellent. Because the of of natural gifts they've put in a lot of work and to see all of effort fifty one weeks year for this week is remarkable. It is remarkable. It's interesting. You are so accomplished your career speaks for itself. What a tremendous resume that you've built and in so many different facets. What can you take? What will you take from the experience here at Augusta back to your restaurants or your television program on Netflix? Those types of things it's not one answer. I think if I can give the motion it's it's to be sort of restless to make it better. Right. I like that. It's like never going to be good enough constant improvement. And that to me is what's amazing is this is a story. One of the most story franchises in in America. Right. And you would think it's gotta be stayed in stale yet somehow it's about preserving the past it somehow remark Asli, they're moving forward to and I don't that's what's hard is to be able to do that. And extend all the values that this place is about that's remarkable. I use that word a lot today because I'm like holy how how do they do? Well, there's not very many places that he listed that type of emotion or that type of response anymore. You know, you said something a minute ago. I've not thought of this ever. But this is so true in this world of one hundred forty characters in this world of self ease in this world of Instagram where people are overloading each other with every single facet of their lives. And so much narcissism that measured approach here doesn't need that. No. It's it stands alone without the need for all of that posturing, and again, what's sort of interesting as a gust of national and the masters tournament has not sort of watered down its brand to fit in if any. Anything? They've just doubled down to believe the things that like made this work like it's this being themselves. Right. And like, I I have a hard time. Again, wrapping my head around the complexity of all that this is a simple golf tournament. People play golf all the time yet, it's just different. And I can't put my finger on mater. But it's amazing. It is everything about this place is amazing from the food to the urinals to like everything like what is going on here. It's like the most efficient best run organization when when the bathrooms have traffic cops who tell you. This one's ready for you. Now, this one's ready for you. Now, I was literally another level. I was in the bathroom using the urinal and a bathroom attendant literally stopped a patriot from using the stall because he's like one minutes or a half to clean this. No, it's. It's great killed have about in my own restaurant. That's literally what I fight for is to care about the things that no one wants to care about. It's interesting to how you just said a moment ago that this is the only Gulf related outlet you have anymore right as somewhat. I mean, I read that your parents store. Yeah. So what happened? You know, the funny thing is I think I was really good when I was younger, but I never loved it. Because it was something I had to do was a job. Know every day, even the wintertime, I played golf. I didn't get to really play other sports got to play football and wrestled and all these other things, and you know, my interest went elsewhere. But also golf for me, I think has become part of my dentist, even though I don't play it. Because it made me hyper competitive in vary aware of my peer group and the field that I have to compete against everything's comp- competitive with me. So I think early on when I started to realize like other people are better than me like a year younger than Tiger Woods, and I was explaining to someone I was trying to qualify for the big I tournament Houston tiger had already won two years in a row, and he was on the pamphlet. I'm like, you know, it's a lot to deal when you're like eleven years old or twelve years old would be like, wait, dude. You're not that good at such a young age where things are sort of coddled to be faced with a stark reality that. Hey, even if you try harder just be honest here there people out there that a way better. And obviously, then everyone was a prodigy fill is a couple years old him. But no one no one thinks that way anymore. You could have been. I don't know. I think now. If I dedicated my life to I still feel like I could do something, but I don't play golf because it would take over my life alternately because you're so competitive. Yeah. Even if I just decided to play like in a amateur like a country club. I'd be that. I would say jerk write the kind of jerk that would be relentless to be not only to have to win it this year. I have to take entire row when it every year gold plaques yet. I get it there. How does this place in this tournament? Re-instill your faith and passion for what the game can be. You need these outliers to like define everything else mean, you're like, oh, this is what I was thinking to myself if I was young golfer again or just made it to the tour, and I somehow qualified for the masters in. I got to see what this place was all about I'm not even thinking about winning. I was like I have to make it here again next year because this place oh special from how they take care of the journalists to the privilege. It is they treat to the players into the winners. It's like, wait. This is a place that I have to be part of. And I was thinking if I'm PGA tour player, and I don't make it to the masters. That's gotta be death. Absolutely. So you're walking around. Today as a guest of the masters, and I heard you were sampling the concession stand items. Yeah. Me run. Now, you know, this is the beautiful thing. And and I had heard about the food over the years, but you know, reading and and being part of it and tasting are two different things in the most significant thing, first and foremost is that it's incredibly affordable like crazy, affordable a dollar fifty four next sandwich, which I love it's delicious. A lot of the sandwiches here. A buck fifty to two bucks, and that's sort of the price. One of the big big trends right now are people going to Japan and eating in their convenience stores like their version of seven elevens and create because like you can judge a lot about I think a country's cuisine by its convenience stores. Why? Because if you can take caring make something delicious and something that most people don't think too much about it, really defines everything else. Interesting, and it's such a low hanging fruit that a lot of people just think very little of it, and you can tell that even though it's a sandwich, and it's simple. It's delicious. So the best praise I can give to the sandwiches here. Is it reminded me a lot about the Japanese sandwiches? I get in Tokyo and. You know, it's got a little bit of everything. Right. The sandwiches the exile. Great Pimento cheese. Right. And it's funny. Just walking through the gates. That's what people are talking about their order planning breakfast at like seven in the morning. Whatever time it was. And you could hear like, hey, I'm gonna excellence in which I'm going to get a Ponente cheese. I'm gonna get a chicken biscuit, chicken biscuit, was probably my favorite Jacob bitchy rules. And like it was so cool to see that right off the bat and the price. And then how orderly it was? And the beers are so cheap. I love it. I mean, if I wasn't doing this. And if I was the guest, I was telling everyone if I was with my friends, and that's thing is I was seeing something that I would do with everyone else you saw groups of three to four guys girls, and they were doing what I would do with my friends just having a good time drinking beer eating and like being a good ole time being like intimacy from a friendship way, which is great. What sports can do? So I was like, well, this is awesome. And people are so friendly, quite frankly, like again seating can be limited around like you saw like from eleven thirty to like one thirty line started develop and it was hard to get a seat. And this to me he was like the definition of of what this place can be people walking by and they're looking for seat. And let's just say the table was still eating there. And there's there's four chairs, and there's three people there and there's one person walking around the convert place seat. Literally I saw a couple times. Hey, come on sit down and they introduce and that doesn't happen. It's beautiful. Just just beautiful down. Take a load off. How's your day, right? And people introduce themselves on John. I'm David and they're not in their phone. No. The no phone thing is brilliant. So awesome. How many places in your life? Can you? I go that you are not distracted by outside factors, and you can truly be present with your feet planet in a moment. Very few. And it is like I used to love flying because I travel I used to love flying. Because there was no way could connect to the world. It was the Dave. Oh, that's gone few hours where I can have that break. You know that feeling and I was like, wow. The last place I expected how the feeling is here. But I wasn't like stuck in a plane thirty thousand feet over the air. I'm with everyone else. And everyone's doing the same thing. Everyone's in it. And if they're not looking at at a golf swing or great shot they're spending time in the present with someone else shipping. This amazing amazing. And I was like how do I find a way without being like offensive someone because like the cellphone is so part of culture, and it's like an extension of who people are that. I could understand why people would be reluctant to give it up could it ever work today. One of your restaurants or bars or an establishment could lay that rule down. Can't have it coming in the door and be profitable. And or successful. It's funny back in two. Thousand nine I opened up a small restaurant called move could co was a twelve seat tasting menu. All the reservations were online. And we impressed technology because it was so small that I didn't need a reservation as to tell someone you can't have table. Let's just make it open. Right. Like what you see is what you get in terms of Vail ability. So we Bryce technology, but simultaneously when dining it was the beginning sort of photography. So people worn on their phones taking photos, they're still using cameras, and I found it ridiculous because of small environments size of one car garage and people wouldn't eat their food, even though they're talking to someone they're setting up their shot, and I'm like, no unacceptable. So we banned photography, and essentially also technology and people went crazy. They were upset. But I was like this is amazing. And we eventually gave it up because I don't even know why we should have just kept it, quite frankly. So today. Has made me realize that something we should maybe revisit at some of Russia's not every restaurant, but in a world where it's so hard to discover anything anymore, right? Because you can download anything for the most part. Any like audio story visuals to be able to come here and only experienced by being presently here. That's what a restaurant. I wish could be right. That's what I was thinking because it would be wonderful to see families engaging with one another to see friends engaging with one another over. What is the greatest unifier food? Yeah. And not be distracted and be completely present with one another. And that's one of the great things about the masters last thing, we I've kept you way, too long less thing. What is your opinion? And what are your thoughts on the champions dinner? Understand. They are very unique. Well, Patrick read one last year. So the tradition is the the winner from the year before gets decides the current year's menu. And I think that's a beautiful tradition. Right. Like, it's something I've always admired about the masters is the legacy. Right. So from the previous winner making putting on the jacket to the current year's winter to like the dinner at self and getting the choose the menu and this year, it's going to be ridi- again tells you a lot, but it's also I you can still leave your Mark here. Somehow, even if you did it when this year, and it's it's a celebration. Right. So stakes never like wrong to celebrate a Sunday dinner. So I was thinking really hard about what I would do. And I don't know. So I was I was going to ask you. I don't know. Because I don't know. I don't know. I I really was art like steak. Yes. But. Maybe do something different. I I don't know. But here's the beautiful thing about it. I will never know. Because unless I'm become a member, which is hopefully one day who knows or I win the masters will ever know what happens in that? And that's amazing because I can only use my imagination as to what that might be glue Siviglia, man. Yeah. It's awesome. Hey, I can't. Thank you enough. Man. I really appreciate your spirit your time insight. It's awesome. Thank you. Julie chatting, David about how the masters impacts him as a patron as a fan of the sport as someone who played it at a very high level once in his life and how he may take what he learns at Augusta National back to his own restaurants, namely, the cell phone policy. It'd be interesting to see how that develops for him as time progresses. Now. It's time to hear from Stewart Cink again making his return to the masters for the first time since two thousand fourteen his best finish here to Gusta national was in two thousand eight when he tied for third. I wondered what it was like to be paired with Tiger Woods at the height of his dominance sink was right here to Gusta why he had to pull over once driving home from the masters and what he's learned from his wife during her cancer battle. It is a tremendous conversation here Stewart Cink. I saw this morning. Read an article that you're not here to soak in the moment, you're not here for some sort of retirement soi. You're here to ball to play. Yeah. I mean, that's it's that's part of soak. Did you know when you play here, this golf course, just draws out a different kind of intensity, and focus and fear all those things than other places do and so when you come here part of soaking it in is to experience all the different emotions in the challenges you face here that are unique to Augusta National and and when I played in eighteen this eighteenth went played in seventeen straight out of eighteen years one year and. Honestly, I kind of felt like I started taking it for granted a little bit. Because I was in the master's every year, you know, and it was part of a schedule now been away for five years, and I've kind of gotten a new perspective on being here. And so undetermined coming here with not an attitude of soaking it in, but an attitude of more appreciation and much less taking it for granted. Fear is not a word professional athletes. Use very often. I find that interesting. Why fear? Well, I think any any sport any thing you do trying to achieve great things. Comes along with the possibility of not achieving great things. And so when that happens when you introduce that into the atmosphere that you're living in you know, you can call it fear. If you want to you can call it a determination. But usually there's a underside of that. And it's not something you hear talked about that often. Because I think it's a lot fairly misunderstood to be honest. And it's just it's just part of the world, you know, every shot out here. Especially at Augusta National. There's no such thing as an easy shot where you can relax. It is so mentally draining playing in the masters every year, it's exhilarating. But it also is is really it takes a lot out yet because of the amount of focus. It takes on every shot. How do you feel in the years that you made it to Sunday? Let's just take two thousand eight for example, you're playing with Tiger Woods, you're in the mix. Right. What is the mental exhaustion on Monday or Sunday evening when you leave here. How about Sunday evening? I live in Atlanta, Georgia. Which is about two two and a half hours drive back down interstate twenty. And after the master's is over we usually get in the car, my wife, and I packed everything up, and we go pretty much straight, home and. Every year, but especially the years year in somewhat contention that year finish third place because I was in it down to the wire Trevor Immelman won by quite a bit that you're so I was fighting for second a lot to me I was playing with tiger. And it didn't mean that much to him because he just tapped in on eighteen for birdie to move all tied for second to third and I was like come on. You could've you know. He was number one in the world by like triple the next guy in points. And that little tap in birdie. He made prevent fifteen feet on the eighteen so nonchalantly probably cost me fifteen places in the world ranking which mattered but after that tournament and after any tournament where you're in good shape on Sunday out of Gus the national you have no business being behind the wheel of car. It is that I remember trying to drive home, and I was just having trouble focusing on the road. And I was getting a headache. And I finally had just pulled over and by Lisa you gotta drive. I don't think I can do it. You spend so much energy focusing and keep going back to that word. And I know it's kind of a cliche word over here. But you it takes that you're hitting longshots too small targets where the penalty is severe and. You know, it's not like where your golf ball finishes really has like a physical impact on you. But mentally it's draining emotionally, mentally you had a good shy. And you end up with a really difficult chip from about twenty feet from the hole that is almost impossible near the whole, you know, that wears on you, and when your golf is not physically super demanding. We all know that but playing off against the best every week and playing against a course, like Augusta National in letting the course unfold in front of you, it is very mentally and emotionally demanding. I'm kind of bouncing around years here with you. So forgive me. Let's go to two thousand it is the height of Tiger Woods. Global powers. You play a couple rounds with him here. I did what is the atmosphere like in that moment with that man here? It's probably the most intense hear of any other place. I did play a lot with tiger. And I've forgotten that I play within two thousand but I've played quite a lot around with him at Augusta National and I. Tremendous. There's one group on the course. And if you're with your in the group, and it's hard to tell what's going on in the rest of the course, because you know, you've got everybody around you it feels a lot like the Ryder Cup the difference being that the Ryder Cup. There's only four groups at anytime on the course until singles, and you've got that intensity around you. But there's only four groups at the masters. You've got all that intensity around you, and there's about twenty five or thirty other groups, and so it's intense and the the patrons love Tiger Woods. They want to be present for history. They want to see, you know, all the fist pumps in the eagles and all that tiger can produce the, and they wanna be able to tell their friends that they were there and that everybody wants it. So why would you miss out on a chance to see tiger close? What are your friends say? What's it? Like when your friends say man, not only were you there you're there. Yeah. It's it's a pretty cool part of the experience, you know, me and tiger have been he's a little bit younger than. Me, but our careers have paralleled in direction only. He's got about one hundred thousand wins, and I have six but our careers. I've seen tiger for a long time. I've known since I was seventeen I played with him in a junior tournament. And I've seen, you know, every step of the way we were in college for a year together, we turn pro and became rookies, roughly the same time, there's you know, there's sort of Ideo secrecy in the definition of rookies that he was a rookie of ninety six and I was rookie ninety seven but mostly we played our full years on tour at the same time. And so I've gotten to see the way that tiger sort of all that I've gotten to see the way that the PGA tour in the master's evolved during the tiger era, and it's been a really neat front. Rosie. How has it evolved? Well, we all know tiger. Brought fans into golf that weren't in golf before. He kinda was Arnold poma version two point. Oh, and so we saw that big change. And then we saw what loyalty the fans of golf in the fans of tiger had after. Two thousand nine when they were off the court issues and the fans embrace him back when he came and no more place than Augusta National fans. Welcome to back and the fans and the golfers to we all did too. And it just shows that in golf, and I don't know if it's unique to golfer not, but there's a little forgiveness that that says, you know, what we're we're people to the fans the golfers were people to we forgive you. We all make mistakes, I wanna see some golf, and I wanna see Tiger Woods by Gough everyone's flawed. That's just how it is. We all made flawed the to see his resurgence from that. And certainly from the back condition is remarkable. What percentage chance would you have given a couple years ago that he'd be playing at this level? I was pretty much convinced that he wouldn't be playing anymore. I don't know that much about back injuries. I've been very fortunate my career not to have too much in the way of injuries to to worry about. But something like that. It just sounded to me every time. Heard reporter every time. I heard friends say, yeah, I was with tiger the other day, and you know, while boy, his he doesn't look healthy. It was I just thought it was something that was pretty much insurmountable to get back in play the way that Tiger Woods would accept. You know, I I don't think it would have been very happy come back out here and fight for his card every year. And I think it would have done it. I think he would have been that would have been cya NAR tiger. And so for him to come back in and be strong and be healthy and regain the kind of speed that it takes to be competitive out here. These days has been a probably one of the most impressive parts of tires career. And talking about a guy who's challenging Jack Nicholson's major record. It's phenomenal. What he's done certainly throughout his career. But in this resurgence. I mean, he told me last year. He didn't think it was he's going to be back. Yeah. And so do see this level. It really is remarkable two thousand fourteen you finish. Fourteenth one shot out of a six way tie for eight. Oh, I'm sorry to bring up a very sore subject Stewart. Forgive me, if you finish a year back the next year. Yeah. I by among the top twelve you don't have to bring it up because it's always in my head. I've got even more sad information about that. That was the first year they went to top twelve automated invite. Oh my gosh. I thought it was sixteen. Also when I finished, bro, when you finish in the scoring in this is pretty much the same case for every tournament every major for sure when you finish you go in and you sign your car. There's a process, you know, you you make sure your partner's cards, correct? And he makes your cards, correct? And you sign there's a committee member or to their they check the addition. They check signatures, and it's it's a process there's always a computer sitting there with scores. And it tells you what position your in at the master's away doing the full field scores aren't there? It's just yours and your group and when I finish that day. I just played really well. In fact, I think I shot my low round in my career. Day sixty eight it's not super oppressive. But this is hard golf course. It is impressive played very well. And my board. My computer screen board said t fourteen or whatever. And I thought sixteen was the was the number and I was yes. Because I finished wrong. And I thought it got myself back in the masters when inside locker room, and I asked somebody. Yes, I think is is sixteen back in. They said, oh, no it's twelve so instead of being in by two I was out too. And here we are five years later. My first masters since two thousand fourteen it's an unforgiving sport. I wonder what was it like to watch the next year? Well, I had experienced that one time because I don't remember what it was two or three was the year during that long session. I wasn't in. And and it hurt because I had not done what it took to get in the masters, and so I remember the pain and in fifteen that was the first year in quite a while that I hadn't been in. And it hurt enough where my wife, and I. Scheduled vacation to Mexico, and we pretty much did not pay any attention to the masters, and we just set it aside and act like exist and enjoyed are. What are they called Dockery's and all that, you know in the in the pool? We basically tried to we we used our own version of escapism for that week. And they really help very much the next year we were in the same boat. How would you define or describe the honor just to get to play here? Well, it's you know, when you when you look around in the fields like eighty six players, I think this year, maybe eighty seven you are one of the select group it's done what it took to get qualified for the masters in. That's that's a really sweet field on the inside knowing that that you're in an elite group just to be playing. And it's a the golf course the clubhouse the the way the interaction is with the members of the patrons. It's. I don't know other sports as well as I know golf, but I just I don't know if there's anything else like any sport nineteen Ninety-seven you're on the fourth teetering a Monday practice round what happens from there. Well, it was a nineteen ninety seven. It was probably I guess it was Monday getting trouble for not knowing this. But let's call it Monday. And this is ninety seven right. We didn't all have an iphone or Samsung in our pocket. I had a phone in my pocket. And there was it was predated the cell phone rule here. So I get a phone call pull out my phone raise the psych in the old days. It's my wife and she calls, and our second son was due to be born anytime and she said, well, I finish the doctor's appointment and tomorrow's the day. So I was playing with Willie wood on the fourth tee and. I hung up the phone, but the antenna back, and I left it went home. And that was my first masters, and my son Reagan was born the next day. And so it was an interesting first masters for me having a child born. And he actually was here he came here. Like literally he was as a day old. And we drove your we got permission from the doctors, we drove here they stayed at the house the whole time. But lease it was in Augusta with Reagan, and my older son Connor for my first master's, imagine that must have been quite an emotional roller coaster for you. It was I mean on top of just being in the masters as a what was I twenty three years old, and I was a rookie on tour, but I had already qualified for the master's and most of the rookies, you know, you don't get to the mass for a couple years. So I was in elite company, and I was a little bit out of my league and all the emotional stuff about having a child and and I remembered play. Golf. I was asleep. I just I played so bad hit the ball everywhere. You don't wanna hit it? But it was it was still an awesome experience. Be it'd be in here for the first time something never forget. And then, you know, throw something like that on top of. That's quite a memory. You not your wife. One thing. I'd Meyer so much about you is your devotion her through her cancer battle and everything you guys Atlanta. Thanks. How do you define that part of your lives together? Oh, we've kind of struggled to come up with a definition or a purpose. That's come out of that. But. You know, it's it's definitely four just to be a little bit sharper with our faith and. With each other. I'm not gonna lie we still fight. Sometimes, you know, everybody, we're married twenty five years going strong now, and I'd like to say that something like that took all the sting out of the fights and stuff, but it's still there. And just it changed perspective for me for what I do gave me a little bit different attitude about being on the golf course in how to prepare and how to really pull out something more than I maybe even knew ahead inside. Because that's what I've watched her to as far as the the message and the purpose. We feel like the one thing that that we've learned that we can share with people. And that's really what it's all about. You know, people come to ask all the time. Like, what's it like if they're not afraid to ask? What's it like in the one thing I say is the biggest thing I would say is don't wait for something like a cancer diagnosis or some- tragedy in your life to sharpen your love for your spouse or to help you take them for granted less or put them on a pedestal. Don't wait for something. Don't wait for something to sharpen your faith. It's there all the time. You don't have to have some kind of a huge life of it that rock your world to say. Oh now, I gotta do this. You don't have to wait. And so that's our message in at least, it's still she's not out of the woods or anything. She's still getting treatment. And she's doing great. I mean remarkably well, but that's our message. You know, that you don't have to wait last thing, brother. I know golf as your life's work on golf is a great passion for you. But I wonder what what perspective her battle gave you on the importance of your passion in your own life. That's a simple question for me to answer actually, because it's very fresh mind all the time. And when I watched her get diagnosed, and I saw basically everything stripped away from her, you know, she's facing dying in soon. And I watched how she reacted to that. And I watched her dig in and become her own advocate and do everything she. Due to give herself the best chance. If you think about it, give do everything you can do to give yourself the best chance. Whether it's work whether it's doing podcasts. Whether it's playing off anything you do is there. Another formula for success was is that do everything you can do to give yourself the best chance. You can't always control the results, but you can control what you do it. If you leave any stone unturned, you're not doing everything with that. Being said, I looked at my own golf career. And as it goes on I've been playing for so long, you kind of almost lose sight of what you're doing. I had examined myself. And I figured out that I don't think I was turning over every stone. I don't think I was fighting. I don't think I was doing everything I could possibly do to give myself the best chance. And so I took a model from my wife, and I applied it to moan Goff. And here I am mid forties. And I've qualified for Gusta. It was a huge goal. It's been a good thing. I mean, I wish I could say golf been perfect had, but it really has affected the way that I get ready to play tournaments and the way that I let it sort of unfold, and I try to control what I can control and do everything I can do to control that and let the rest happen. Quick thing. I know that one thing that you cannot control is mother nature. Yeah. We are battling mother nature here at the masters in two thousand nineteen. What impact do you think that might have on your performance and the field? Well, you know, when the golf courses wet any any golf course, not just Gus national. But when the golf courses wet it usually means scoring his lower the fairways play. It's longer but link is an issue out here anymore with the way, they everybody hits it. It's it also plays wider. So it's harder for your ball run into trouble. Now, the greens are more receptive. They usually are quite as facet the golf course loses its teeth. And so it becomes a different little mentality where you can be. More aggressive, and they have the ability here to control the moisture on the grass to some extent. But not when it's raining like it is out there the last couple of days. So I think we're gonna see a little bit softer a little bit lower scores. And depending on wind we could see a shootout type masters this year say what's it gonna take to win this? Well, you know to be honest. I didn't even played a whole yet. On the golf course. I was over here last week doing my homework in advance. I kind of do more resting in get myself. My my game ready. Instead of studying the golf course. So I haven't played a whole since I got here yet this week, and I hope to play some. But I would think that if if it stays wet, and it stays calm, and it stays warm. That's the perfect recipe for scoring. And I would think that somebody might kinda get up near that record score of what is it eighteen hundred par? Yeah. That would be ridiculous. It would be. But I wouldn't be surprised at all. If somebody does the talent I see every day out here. I'm constantly amazed by players the guy that Corey Connors you one last week and got in. That's a perfect example. You know, planning a Monday qualifier one week in the next week is weighing in the master's par-three contests. It's just yeah. The drain. It is it's it's it's it's a great thing about golf that. It's not March madness. March madness look at sixty four and versus one overall seeds and you're like, well, okay. There's no prayer out here if somebody right below number sixty four wins, the masters you wanting bat an eyelash, it'll it'll it could very well happen. It has happened. You'll be fun. Thank you so much. You got mardi. Really? Appreciate a brother. You gotta. We certainly restored the best throughout this entire week as he tackles Augusta National once again now, let's hear from seed an Mashburn fashion experts from Atlanta Georgia, and why they think a single article of clothing is the most iconic sporting trophy in the galaxy. I'm a newbie. This is only my second year here. And I am well we've only been in Georgia for how long now twelve years. So for me, I didn't even really understand what when people talked about Augusta sounded like a, you know, a woman in a novel from some old English writer, but you know, then you start to hear about it. It's gains the Menem and sig was invited to go. If you years back and came home and was just blown away. He just kept talking about how perfect it was. And how for him? It was one of the great not just a vent. But this is okay to say. But just what a great brand it was he said, it is just every single thing about it. He thought was amazing. And so I'm new to it. But it was really has been influenced for few years by his visit there, I grew up. I didn't really play golf, but at friends did from Mississippi and played every other anything had a ball. I was playing a loved it. But always. I love the competition of golf, and I grew love in close and golf to me was like guys with they war on. The course was as important as how they smoke the the club. So anyway, funny enough when I lived in New York for a while and worked for J crew in for Ralph Lauren, and then I met a guy named John Ashworth and John was the original Ashworth company along with his partner, Jerry money L, and they invited me kind of into this golf world a little bit. So I began to Cassie into an an actually did a photo shoot. With Ernie Els, Fred Couples and John Cook gymnasts address them put him on the beach, and they swung some clubs in the San as kind of a cool. So that that was really are brush with golf. Okay. So anyway, fast forward a little bit. And come to Atlanta, we lived here in of course in Atlanta that is everybody's game on the weekend. Actually, tennis also. Big both of those are big anyway, someone invited me out to I think maybe a Wednesday, and I walked man, and I just was blown away. It really, you know, the complexity and the simplicity kind of running together because you, you know, the simplicity of getting an egg salad sandwich of beer and a tent with a bunch of people. But also understanding it's a little bit like watching the duck on the water. It looks mood. But you know, that ducks paddle in like crazy underneath what's your favorite masters moment is it's funny because we were talking about that. And because I I'd ask somebody if you're the champion, what would you have for champions dinner, and they throw it back. So what's your favorite moment at the masters and took me a while to think of it. Because the first thing that came to mind was wasn't emotional one. Is when Bubba one and kind of and his mother came out now his wife was just had a baby or getting a baby and he hit hook shot in the Vic. I'm not a not a golfer. But you understood not only the skill or the art of the shot, but the the avert the risk that he was taking the the unbelievable. He put it out on the line for everything as crazy. And so I loved that. So the the SPO of the sport that shot of the emotion after he wanted that was one of the moments you could see the desire to play to win instead of playing to lose. They are not one in the same. In fact, they are the antecedent of one another no prevent what is masters fashion. Well for me, I could use the same. I would say that. I also wanted to. I think you want to elevate yourself. You're going to dress up you have to dress for comfort. So you have to you know, there's a lot of tennis shoes. But today I've seen so many white shoes even in the mud. It's unbelievable. I don't know how they're staying white. But a lot of them are staying light. You know, I have a real romance to. I'd like, you know, said have always I might not play a lot of golf, but I can look great when I do. And my parents were both golfers. My mother spent all summer long in cute little sleeveless shell in the little Gulf skirt. And she looked amazing. So for me, I like looking like I. I belong to could be playing golf. But I don't wanna look like I'm playing golf because I'm not. But I think it's just it's understated as the masters is it's being looking your best. It's but it's also being practical. I mean, you know, the this this whole place runs really well and likes it said there's a lot of work behind it. So you want to be really comfortable and look like you can move and actually do what you're going to do for the day a little walking. Yeah. It's about a walking the walk. Yeah. So you. Yeah. You look silly. When you when you when you're not comfortable, so I think looking comfortable and just looking she can simple is is really great. Well, it's this morning or even last night. When you're going to the masters is not like, you just can't have or at least for me. Just kinda wake up in the morning, go. What am I gonna put on you gotta plan it a little bit? Yeah. Exactly. And so anyway, looking at the at the weather it there's a little extra plan for because it's the rain was coming. And so I got a fear out what I'm going to wear and so it came down to where the very practical shoe, some blunt stones thing, he's almost should be the national. She of the masher tilles don't rain day. But but Dan's point, is how do you how do you can't step up a little bit? You know, stand up a little bit taller because even when you drive across the into the gate. There's a feeling of I'm crossing the threshold into something a little more special than just go into going to play golf or go into even an NBA game for sure even a NFO gay. More major league anywhere else. Yeah. And if you if you want even last night, even on the on the NCWA basketball championship, Augusta was referenced okay in the at on the champions day when they were receiving the ward. So he realize how special this is. So you kind of want to dress appropriately for that. And so you wanna dress up without being too stiff when address up in be comfortable. So anyway, I think in my era of of favorite golf wear. I think probably is sort of mid sixties to early seventies. Just before sort of the Johnny Miller kinda double knit pant things started going cool. But anyway, before that I liked it a little more old school. So there's not a lot of guys doing that today. But actually on that Bo Watson that day that he won the like mister clean. He looked cool. They day. Very few articles of clothing are as conic as the masters green jacket. What are your thoughts on the green jacket as fashion experts? Sit loves green, and he actually has a green jacket. I think he actually has to Greenjackets, but they are not the range adult. Do not. And there's a big big divide. But you know, he he certainly I think he thinks about the green jacket, maybe when he wears the green jacket, but no questions it's it's a symbol. There's only one other article of clothing, this is renown chose of coat. That's it outside of that. There's nothing there's no piece of clothing. That's sorta hallowed and Cape May not even not even. But nothing nothing is highly regarded, I mean to think the piece of clothes at a jacket is the ultimate symbol of winning. Arguably the most, you know, the greatest sporting event in the galaxy. I mean, that's that's interesting. And so that green jacket is super powerful. I've heard plenty of high praises for the masters green jacket. I have never heard it compared to Joseph's coat of many colors. Really what other pieces of clothing out. There are that you know recognized. I can't thank you guys enough for being here. Thank you so much. We're honored to be here. Thank you so much. What an interesting conversation with sid and Mashburn, and I will tell you just like I told him. I am stealing the coat of many colors reference. It is now mine. Thank you said. If anyone is asking you where they can find four, please. Now driving the official masters podcast. You can find it on I tunes or wherever you download your podcasts. It's also available on masters dot com. Thanks so much for listening to four please. Now driving the official masters podcast. We're doing this every night during the tournament throughout the entire week all the way through Sunday evening when someone earns a green jacket of their own good night from Gusta national Gulf.

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Friday at the Masters

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Friday at the Masters

"Hello everyone. Welcome to four please. Now. Driving the official masters podcast. I'm your host Marty Smith. We'll be recording all week long here on property at Augusta National Golf club discussing the masters tournament with some of your favorite celebrities, athletes and entertainers this is Friday April twelfth on today's episode. We'll chat with ESPN's Mike Greenberg. During this his first trip to the masters about his love for the game of golf, and what masters moment he thinks about I when asked about this historic tournament. We'll also have a conversation with NASCAR star Kyle Larson about going to the masters for the first time and the golf league in which he and several of his competitors. Engage weekly. So without delay. Let's turn off of Washington road proceed down the famed magnolia lane and get to it. What a tremendous day of golf here on Friday at Augusta National. We have. Five players tied for the lead at seven under par. Four more, including Tiger Woods, just one stroke off the lead pleased to welcome back. Jimmy Roberts voice of masters digital and NBC broadcaster. Jimmy. We'll get to the leaders in just a moment. But once again, the story Tiger Woods. There are so many aspects to his performance Friday to discuss, but let's just discuss the overall performance I four under sixty eight moves within one stroke of the lead as we said he entered the day Friday, two under par shoots one under on the front nine. And then produces a masterful second nine what did you see from tiger on Friday? Jimmy, he was Houdini again. I mean, the guy makes it impossible to look away from. I mean, just everything about him seems to be just suffused in drama take what he does the only person to birdie the eleventh all the holes impossible, he hits it left of the whole nobody hits it left of the whole. That's where you have to hit it. If you want an. Uphill putt. It's exactly what he did. What he did? He birdies the eleventh hole, then he moves to twelve hits a great tee shot. And so what happens, of course, the horn goes off. And you just you just knew that was that was what was going to happen to them. Everything seemed to turn after the rain delay. It was only thirty minutes. He misses the five foot birdie putt on twelve misses a makeable birdie putt on thirteen hits a bad drive on fourteen in you think, you know, this could definitely go in the wrong direction at looked like it was heading there. And then to make matters worse after he hits his second shot on fourteen. He ends up getting tangled up his feet with a security guard. And you just thinking this this is just impossible. But what happens he hits a magnificent shot? He makes the pot hits a bad drive on fifteen birdies the whole anyway, you know, and. Tiger Woods once again makes it impossible to look away from. And he's the only by the way, he made five putts over twenty feet. The next best in that category with somebody with three. So I mean, again, he just a flair for the dramatic. And he is where he is we discussed this yesterday because it's so remarkable to witness in person, but to watch him leave the eighteenth and walk off the eighteenth to that raucous celebration. And that raucous adoration from all of those patrons is a sight to behold like we rarely see he's for someone who's not here. And they're seeing it on television. What is it like to see in person? People are fascinated by the guy. And I think today's a perfect example of why he over the years, I think has this quality where he's one of the toughest battlers that I've ever seen. You know? I think Tiger Woods. I've often. Said that I think Tiger Woods is who he is not because he shot sixty three more than anybody else. But because he's failed to shoot seventy six more than anybody else. I've seen that guy turned seventy six into seventy two more times than you could possibly imagine. He had no business doing what he did on fourteen and fifteen but somehow he figures out a way. Now a lot of it has to do with the extrordinary skill that allows them to hit the shot that he hit on fourteen. That's second shot. You know was just crazy, but he's an extraordinarily talented person with an iron will and each just, you know, he never ever mails it in his impact on the game is just unbelievable. There's a lot of golf to play. But what is the impact on the masters for him to be in this position right now as we head towards moving. Well, I think you'll you'll find that out when you. The ratings next week. But I think it's kind of obvious. It's it's going to bring an awful lot more people to the table who might not necessarily, you know, have been interested without his presence. I will say this the masters in and of itself attracts and extraordinary amount of attention among people who wouldn't otherwise be interested in golf. I saw an interesting stat this week where from the CEO of taylormade where he said his company receives fifty percent. More phone calls the Monday after the masters, then it gets on our day. So I mean, I think that with or without tiger. This is you know, we're talking about it yesterday. This is the show with tiger. It's the hyper show, let us go the leaders. Now, the names are Francesco Molinari Jason day Brooks kept Adam Scott and Louis who stays in all tied at seven under atop the leaderboard. Each took very different roads to the lead west. Out the most to you. Well, tell you what stands out the most to me all of those names that you just mentioned the first page of the leaderboard, they're all major champions. And you know, when you get down to a situation where the air is going to get a little bit more thin, the experience of having been in that cauldron and. Previously figured out how to breathe properly, and I don't mean literally breath property properly. I'm talking about how to get it done. When something this big is at stake. I think there's really something to be said for that. Interestingly enough, the only one among that group who's won a master's is Adam Scott, and as a matter of fact, the top ten players in the world. None of them have won a masters. It's a crowded leaderboard. I mean there a million stories and their eleven players within two shots of the lead in their seven major champions there. You know, you could end it goes deep to take a look at some of these stories, and as we talked about yesterday mardi everybody brings with them their own story. Francesco Molinaro Amin the year that he had last year and continues to have this year. It's hard to think that anybody could be cooler than this guy just continues to win. He's never really been close here. Jason day. That's a pretty compelling story. Here's a guy who's been very very close here on a couple of occasions third or better twice twenty-seven putts today. But this is a guy who's struggling with back trouble. I mean, real back trouble. Let me read this to you on that note, a found this fascinating his press conference after his round was one of the most interesting press conferences I've ever been in professionally. I just want to read you this real quick some of the preparation that he has to do to prepare to play quote, I have to get my ribcage back in position. So my ribcage is out of position. So you have your pelvic floor, your ribcage and the bottom of your mouth. This is my trainer talking. Not me. He says this comes straight from him. When my back was sore last week. My ribcage was out. And I was aligned my left shoulder was high. If you look at the back line where my pants are in the back. You could see my hips were kind of shifted and tilted this is where it gets weird. Okay. I blow into balloons in certain positions to try to get my ribcage down. But then I also try other exercises to get space in the joint with regards to my hips, and my back and my shoulders, and it takes thirty minutes in the morning to get it done. Well, that is insane to me. Well, I have to tell you. What makes me smile about that as I have the same issues? I don't blow into the balloons, but I totally understand what he's talking about. So give us some perspective then for him to go out and perform like this with that type of back issue is what well it's kind of remarkable. I can say that. I don't think I could shoot sixty seven from the proteins here with my back issues. Of course, I couldn't shoot sixty seven from the proteins here. If I if I I can't even think Jason, Sal, whatever couldn't even I couldn't do it under any circumstance. But I mean, everybody's got their issues. I mean Marty I go down the line. It's why this tournamen. It year after year delivers the fascination that it does because it's a short field. So what is it eighty five or eighty seven this year in the field something like that? You can probably eliminate. We talked about this yesterday. The first timers number of the former major champions who are not necessarily going to be competitive, the Amador's, and you are left with a distilled group of the best players in the world. You know, normal PGA tour event is one hundred fifty one hundred fifty six people this is almost half of that. And so what do you have at the top of the leaderboard? You've got Dustin Johnson looking for a second major championship. You've got Louis stays and who has won an open championship shoot sixty six today. Got guys lurking. You've got Justin Thomas, he shoot sixty eight today. You've got you've got tiger. You've got Zander Shaw flea who has yet to win a major championship. But I think most people are of the opinion that it's just inevitable with him. He should sixty five. So I mean, there's so much going on here. And that's actually why Saturday is going to be a fascinating day people. Call it moving day. It's a little bit of a cliche. I like to think of it as separation. Day because it's when the story truly makes it self one last thing, and we'll wrap it up. Obviously, mental fortitude is such an important part of this becoming a masters champion and day was saying that on Thursday night with his back issues. He was moping. He was just moping and his wife, basically looked at him said, hey, man, you got to suck it up. This is the masters if you're any chance you better suck it up. And then I loved what kept Gusaid today. Kepco fascinates me with his approach to the game. I love this comment. Someone was asking if his attitude is beneficial. I don't know if it's my attitude. He said, I just think I know I can beat a lot of people mentally some people don't think I'm mentally tough or Tuff in general. But I think I am I've proven that with three trophies. He means major championships. I feel like no matter how things are going whether they're going really well or really poorly. Can grind it out especially during a major, and he is proving that yet again, I gotta tell you something. I don't know what world he's looking at that. There are people out there who don't think he's tough. I mean, who are these people don't think he's tough truly believe that he lives. He you know, who he reminds me of Aaron Rodgers. He reminds me so much of Aaron Rodgers the Green Bay Packers quarterback because they no matter what level of success they attain they will find a way to maintain this chip on their shoulder. It is a driving factor for them emotionally, and psychologically, and I see so many similarities between the two I will say this. Okay. So he's obviously got an enormous amount of talent. But I think he's got the right attitude. I listened to him and I hear a guy who does not get undone by the big moment he's motivated clearly by slights. But I think he's also in listening to him it. I heard him say yesterday said look major championship. It's seventy two holes you cannot become undone by one. Hole on Friday, and look double bogeyed. The second hole today. Second hole is a is a slam dunk scoring opportunity for somebody like him. It's one of these east holes on the course, he double bogeys it. But he does not become undone by moments like that. And in the end, you know, it's a cliche, but it's the truth. You know, you can't win a tournament on Friday. But you sure can lose it. And he did he's the kind of player who truly understands that. And seems to pace himself and lives in the moment. What a tremendous day of golf for again. Right. It's just so wonderful to be here and see it in person. Jimmy. Thank you so much for your perspective. Marnie it's good to be with you again. Joy so much getting the perspective of folks. Ginny Roberts Jimmy's first masters was nineteen ninety one. He's covered. So many of them throughout the years. So his catalog of memories and knowledge and perspective is so vast. It's wonderful to hear his thoughts. Really? Appreciate Jimmy's time. Now, let's hear from ESPN's. Mike greenberg. An avid golf on making his first trip to the masters. Now. Welcome Mike Greenberg. My ESPN colleague, of course, Mike hosts get up each morning on ESPN. He hosted sportscenter forever. He said myriad roles at ESPN. And he's here at Augusta hosting our masters coverage here throughout the week for sportscenter and other various platforms first of all thanks so much for your time. You've been to a lot of amazing sporting events throughout your career. Where does the masters rank on that list number one at the very top? I've said that all week leading up. This is the only time in my career that anyone asked me if I was interested in an assignment, and my response was are you kidding? The first time I've ever said that and I've told people this that the experience of being here for the tournament is one of the very few things in life that people can build up for you to the point where the expectations are almost impossible to exceed and yet still exceed them. And that's what this has been for me. I've been here for two days now. And it's just remarkable. It is remarkable to me how many people you can put in in this area. And yet have it all appear as orderly as it is how happy everyone seems to be. I think everyone is just so happy to be here doesn't hurt that. It is an absolutely stunning picture-perfect beautiful day outside and the golf course look spectacular. So I'm beyond excited to be here. I've tried in a few interviews I've done leading up to this to come up with a new word because excited doesn't quite do. It justice. I've been a broadcaster for thirty years, and I don't recall ever feeling the way I feel this week about being here. It's funny. Rory mcilroy was discussing Augusta for those who may not have been and he was talking about how his favorite time here is not during the masters. It's win. It's quiet. And when it's docile he said, it's like walking into an empty church. And I've tried many times to my friends who've not attended the masters to try to articulate to them what it is. And that's the first time I've ever heard anyone say it in a way where I went. Okay, that encapsulates the spiritual element it encapsulates, the Reverend element there. So many elements about Augusta National that just don't apply to sport in any other way. That's correct. And I spent some time this week thinking about why? And there are two reasons. One of them is it is without competition. I believe the most telegenic golf course in the world. There is just no place else and Pebble Beach is spectacular and beautiful. And so many of the courses that are in the British Open rotation or Spektr. Acura, beautiful. But there is just nothing that quite matches the colors, and the pictures that you get on television. Watching Augusta National every year. And then the second piece of it is the history there, there isn't a single place on this golf course that you can't name at least one thing you've seen happen there. One incredibly memorable thing that you've seen happen there. I've seen the US open played at Pebble Beach in my lifetime. Probably six times seven times I've seen the British Open played at Saint Andrews six or seven times, those are among the most famous golf courses in the world. I've seen the masters played at Augusta National in my life forty times. And there is just no substitute for that. And so it is it is it is it is for me. It is a religious experience the opportunity to actually get to be here and be a small part of it is a thrill beyond words. And I'm as I am every year. I'm just enormously. Interested to see how it will unfold. I think there is endless intrigue and drama. And this year's field. As there always is it is it is the best sporting event of the year. And I think it is about as wide open this year as it has been and as long as I can remember, there's a certain responsibility for us as partners us at ESPN, and certainly CBS and the other outlets who are affiliated with tournament. To disseminate the passion of the tournament and to disseminate the spirit of the tournament. How'd you describe that responsibility in your role? Well, first and foremost, I have been as you mentioned as you introduced me so nicely. I've been a talk show host most of my career, which means that generally speaking, I do show that people are tuning in to be for all the years on the radio or now on television to hear what I have to say about something for me personally. The mindset is very different because there are a combined total of two people on planet earth who are watching this week because I'm doing masters. My wife and my mother. Everyone else wants to see the masters as I would if I were at home watching, and I would not want to watch anyone like me, no matter how much I made like them talk about how excited VR to be there. My job for the time that I am privileged enough to sit in that chair alongside Andy north and Curtis. Strange and anyone else is to present the masters in as professional away and as thorough away as I possibly can do all of the people love golf in love this event. And what I tried to do is. I was thinking about how I wanted to do. It is I tried to ask of my analysts as I was on today. The questions that I always find myself wondering when I'm at home. So for example, the way I think we can particularly in the early stages of the tournament Thursday and Friday coverage. What I think we can try and present people is what you are seeing. What does it portend as the weekend goes on? I tried to ask a lot of questions this morning when I was on with Andy and Curtis. What are the most important things Tiger Woods needs to do today? What will you be looking for on the opening hole in the first few holes to get a sense of what we should expect? And of course, these things don't always hold up. We know the Tiger Woods the first time. He won the master's had a very poor front nine on the first day. And then set the new scoring record along the way. So those things can obviously change on a dime. But for the most part that's the mentality. I've tried to bring to it. I think our job is to present the tournament professionally and thoroughly accurately and let people I will let people make their own conclusions as to how emotionally invested they become an it. Because I think there are at minimum two sets of people who watch one are people like us like, obviously you, and I who feel about this place as we have just described that there is something about this place that has. Just different than anywhere else on earth. And it is something larger this is something larger than just a sporting event. But I'm also very cognizant that there are lots of people millions of people who are watching because it is a sporting event because they're interested in seeing Tiger Woods and the other best golfers in the world play one of the most beautiful, and challenging golf courses in the world. And see how it all turns out. So I tried at least in my presentation not to go too much into my own personal reference. What was going on and try to cover it as best? I can as what it is which is one of the legitimately important sporting events of the year for whatever reason find that to be so difficult, personally, I'm in a very different role than you are discussing pieces that of pre produced with our tremendous producers about various golfers or moments or elements of the sport. But went on discussing Augusta, National and undiscussed ING the masters. There is a there's this visceral emotion that you have to. To include in those descriptions, because it is a spiritual thing and you use the word religious. I agree with that word. I think when you come here, you conduct yourself in a very different fashion than you might outside these walls. I always say that the respect for the grounds. Permeates the patrons, you respect your fellow man more here, and it's weird. But it's true. It's such an interesting dynamic now a moment ago, you were discussing every single whole you can note that moment, what is the masters moment for you as a fan for so long. Well, so I'm gonna have to name a few and then we'll try narrow it down to one. So there are the the magnificent moments and there were the heartbreaking moments and those carry equal weight. I think if I have to the very first thing that jumped to my mind when you asked me the question was what happened to Jordan speak on number twelve in two thousand sixteen and I hate to say that because you don't want to lead with this. Heartbreaking moment that he had. You don't want to immediately. Think of Greg Norman in nineteen Ninety-six. You don't want to immediately think of those moments where where these great players had their dreams dashed. You wanna think of the moments of inspiration like what Tiger Woods did sixteen that year? And I just saw it again the other day, and I tell you the broadcast is such a part of that Verne Lundquist his the moment by saying in your life. Yeah. Have you ever seen anything like that? It was so perfect. But I will be honest. And so there are so many of those moments as well. Of course, Adam Scott yelling come on AUSSIE went when he made that putt in the rain to win it in an extra holes against Cabrera. There are those that are jumping in my mind. But but sometimes your first answer the first thing that pops into your head is the best answer. I would say speed on twelve in sixteen and a variety of reasons. One is the extraordinary heartbreak of it. The second is. The sporting consequence of it significance to this think about where we were two thousand fifteen Jordan Spieth wins the masters and shoots. The best score in the history of the event and ties Tiger Woods record for the largest margin of victory in the history of the event, then he wins the US open, then he was right there with a chance to win the British Open and right there with a chance to win the PGA championship circle the calendar come back the next year, and he is running away in hiding with the masters. So we are living in a moment until he steps to the twelve key. Where Jordan speed is by far the best player in the world is separating himself from everyone in a way that we hadn't seen anyone since tiger at his peak, and that was going to be the new normal, and then twelve happened then he hits the ball in the water, and he has a variety of options and chooses one that for the rest of my life. I'll never understand to drop the ball where he went and dropped it and the entire world changes. Now, he doesn't win that. Masters now, he isn't running away with being the best player in the world. He has one one major championship, of course, since then a remarkable comeback at the British Open at Birkdale. But the whole the whole sport changed everything about golf changed on that one whole. And so that is the first thing that jumps to my mind, again, there's a part of me that hates myself for thinking of a moment of despair rather than a moment of glory. But that is the first thing that jumped to my mind in what other sport, and in what other event in sport is one man alone. Sure, they have their caddy is one man alone on that type of stage with that type of pressure. And it's funny. I was speaking with Kyle Larson the NASCAR driver on the podcast about what it's like when you're in the arena. And what it's like when everyone is watching you golfs unlike anything else, and especially here, what do you make of that level of pressure? Here for them. Here's what I love the most about the sport and spend all of my free time reading golf books, and my fav-, I read more golf psychology books than anyone else does anything and Bob Rotella is is is my favorite, and what I think makes golf so compelling to me is that that pressure that you are describing comes from two different things. One is your own battle with yourself. And the other is time it is the only one where there is no limit practically speaking on how long it can take you to make the decision to are making. And as you, and I any person knows sometimes an abundance of time is the worst enemy. You can have when making a decision, right? So so you, and I both we cover football a lot. If the if the NFL held their draft a month after the college football season ended in my opinion, teams would make much better. Decisions. But by waiting four months. They talk themselves into one mistake after another. And that's what we see happen golf. It is that battle with yourself off as the only sport where you compete only against the course, which means you're competing against yourself rather than competing with any other opponent, even in the other individual sports. In tennis. I'm playing against you in boxing. I'm fighting you in golf, I'm playing my game in your playing yours and whoever wants up being best wins. And that that makes this the greatest sport, in my opinion, my favorite sport by far, and the most unique of all, and for some reason when you're asking me the question, this story jumped into my mind, and I wanna tell it, even if it isn't a specific answer to what you asked me years and years and years ago on Mike, and Mike I asked Tiger Woods the following question. And this is at a time when he was dominating the sport in a way that maybe no one ever had during that that period of time where Tiger Woods was was probably the best golfer that had. Ever lived. And I asked him have you ever walked off the golf course. And thought to yourself that was the best I'm capable of playing. That was the the absolute best. I'm not capable of being better than that. And his answer was no. And I never will. And I think that is what makes golf so unique is that for those of us who who by our nature are aspirated who who expect a lot of ourselves and never stopped trying who are who are not competitive. Isn't the right word who are determined? It brings that out in us because you can't perfect it. You can't beat it in baseball. There's a perfect game. You can't beat this game. You can't be perfect at it. And that is what makes it so compelling to me to watch these the best players in the world tries hard as they can to do something that is impossible, which is to be perfect and to try and win a prize that candidly, if you told me I could have anything in the world. I would choose a green jacket. I remember this was a great debate used to have on the show if there was any prize, you could ever have an Olympic gold medal, or whatever it might be. What would you choose and mine was always agreeing jacket? So that was a very rambling answer to a reasonably concise question golf is the best game because it forces people to compete to try to conquer them themselves their own worst tendencies, and that is the hardest thing to do as you say that the only thing I can think of is marathoning because you're not running against someone else. You running against a clock in the course in front of you. It's obviously still different fundamentally than golf. But it's the only thing that. That is even remotely applicable. I think that is a good choice. A good example because I've never run a marathon. But it would seem to me that at some point in it your eight any battle have you run a marathon. Yes. Okay. Multiple. I have to believe that in your own Europe. You're in a fight with yourself. You're in a battle against your natural inclination to quit and your insecurities. Yeah. And your fears and every little feeling that you have an must swing right now. Feels just a tick off now it's in my head my gate feels a little bit off. Now, it's in my head. What's that gonna mean seven miles from now, it's it's applicable in certain ways. How's your game? How often do you get to play? Well, I have a job that ends at ten o'clock in the morning already. I started hosting Mike and Mike in the morning in January of two thousand and at that time, my handicap was twenty four and I'm pleased to say that after nineteen years of his schedule that ends at ten o'clock in the morning. I've written five books and I've taken sixteen shots off my handicapped, so I played to win eight now, and I would like to make a shout out on this podcast, which I would assume everyone who is listening loves the game of golf that the difference in my life that a PJ professional made is it is almost impossible for me to put into words, if I had to list, the ten most important people in my life, my golf pro would be one of them. And I'll tell you why I was going to quit. I took up the game in my in my twenties. I did not play as a kid took up the game in my twenties. And I did the worst thing you can do which is I bought a set of inexpensive clubs, and I went out, and I tried to teach myself swing and so I- grain into my game. All of the worst habits you could. Ever conceivably have. And so not only was I bad. But I was getting worse rather than better the more that I play a whole piece on this. It was it was so excruciating. And I remember thinking to myself, why am I doing this? This is my leisure time. It isn't my job. Why am I spending all of this money, and and all of this time and all this energy into something that causes me so much angst? And there was something about back of my mind that new I wanted to keep trying, but I was genuinely going to quit. I was standing on the driving range at at the club at which I'm a member in Wilton, Connecticut. It's called rolling hills country club standing on the driving range and hitting one terrible slice after another. And I was as frustrated as I've ever been a PJ professional our director of instruction. His name is Dan says Vannes walked by me. And he looked at me said green, you don't look happy at Dan. I'm not happy. He said I can see what's going on here. He said, and we can fix it. But if you weighed three hundred and fifty pounds, and you said to me, Dan, I wanna weigh one hundred and fifty pounds. I couldn't say to you. Okay. Give up bread. I would say this is going to require a complete lifestyle change. So that's what this is going to be. So if you want to get better at golf, we can do this, but it's going to require a complete change in your game. And so I said I do want to do this. So we started with my grip, and then we went to my path. And then we went to any number of things and my index at that time was twenty one point something, and it has been as low as seven point four, and I can tell you I've traveled all over the world. I have a group of guys that we travel all over the world have been all over England all over Scotland all over Ireland over a trailer playing this game I've gotten more joy out of playing the game of golf then. Then practically anything that does not involve my family and my entire life. And all of that is. Thanks to the fact that I allowed PJ professional to help teach me how to play this game. And so I know that isn't the purpose of this podcast. But I really for anyone who loves golf. I would advise that it changed my life. It changed my game. And it has opened up an entire world to me that I think would otherwise not have been available phenomenally said a couple more things. And I'll let you run you noted speak tying Tigers scoring record. Tiger has four Greenjackets. Right. How would you begin to define his impact on the game of golf? It's almost impossible to do. I think that more people. Began playing golf as a consequence of Tiger Woods playing golf than any person since Arnold Palmer in his heyday. And I'm not old enough to remember that of course, Arnold Palmer heyday came a decade before I was born. But my sense of it is that he brought more people to this wonderful party that we that we call this game of golf than anyone has since Arnold Palmer, and maybe even more. So there's that piece then there's the renaissance, you know, there was tiger at his best when he was almost like a machine, you know, a shark is. I remember writing this once a shark is more like a machine than than like a beast because of the simplicity of its purpose. It seems to have no emotion whatsoever. It just swims and eats, and it doesn't have any other function and any other thought, and that's sort of what tiger was right. That's that's how he seemed during his pinnacle. He just walked with that with that stare on his face, and he played golf like we'd never seen anyone play golf before. And then all the things that have happened in his life happened and in his renaissance now it is so different. But I can tell you that last year when he played in the Val Spar open. It felt like you were watching the Ryder Cup. It felt like it was that important. And when he did what he did at the PJ championship that day that he was playing in the PGA championship, which I think is generally considered to be the fourth of the majors it felt like the most important golf you've ever watched in your entire life. And I made this comparison on my show Tiger Woods playing golf has. Now, superseded sports. It is sort of like the comparison, I made was beyond say at Coachella where all of a sudden, this performance is going on at this venue that everyone knows and is aware of that we weren't really expecting and everyone, you know, is texting everyone, you know, saying are you watching this? Are you seeing what's happening right now? David Letterman used to say. Say phone the neighbors wake the dog like like you. You have to see what's happening here, what Tiger Woods is doing. You cannot miss this. It's it is bigger than sports. Somehow. He is that. And if he should do that again, I would not put it past him. He is not my pick to win here this week, but are your ago, if he had won this turnament, you would have been floored. You would you would have bet anything that anyone would have offered you that it couldn't happen that wouldn't be the case. Now, of course. But if he does actually win this tournament to see him when any major again would be substantial but be significant to see him when the master's again is he Tiger Woods win the masters. The greatest player win the greatest event. I think would be the biggest thing that could happen in sports right now, there is nothing that could happen in the world of sports that would be more consequential in my opinion than Tiger Woods winning the masters. Fantastic stuff. Brother. Thank you for your so good to see mardi. Thank you for having. He has been a lead voice in all of sport for so many years more than two decades says that the masters is the pinnacle of the sporting experience for the fan or the patron, you know, it's extremely special. It's so fun for me to see people of that pedigree with that type of resume, and that type of experience be utterly giddy. About the masters experience. Really appreciate Mike time. And greenie isn't the only person who shares that sentiment? Certainly we've heard so many people throughout the week on the four, please. Now driving official masters podcast discuss their adoration for the moment of seeing the masters for the first time. So why not add one more? Now. It's time for my conversation. With NASCAR star Kyle Larson winner of five races at nascar's highest level. Not only does he compete against other drivers on the race track on Sunday. He. Also competes against several of them on the golf course throughout the week. Here's my conversation with NASCAR driver. Kyle Larson thrilled. Now to have my man. Nascar star Kyle Larson joining the four please. Now driving official masters podcast. It's so good to see you first of all it's been awhile since I've been in the garage. This is your first masters experience. How would you even begin to detail it overwhelming? I knew there'd be a lot of people. I didn't know that there'd be that many people all over the place. So it's crazy. It's impossible to describe what Augusta National really looks like to someone who's never been here. You basically cannot properly describe it. How would you describe it? Well, yeah, this how hilly it is. Unreal TV. You don't get the sense of you know, how up and down courses eighteen fairway up to eighteen green. It was. Is insane. I felt like the fairways looked pretty wide. But the greens really small and this how green it is. Here is is awesome. This the landscaping is great one thing that I love about. This place is the beauty instant publicity. No phones. You don't have cameras. There's I mean, you are truly immersed in the moment with your friends and your family, very few places. That's the case anymore. Was that like this is the only place I feel like I've ever been where you can't have a cell phone or camera or anything any technology. So yeah. Part of its is really neat because you actually have to talk to people and you're not focused on your phone. And, but then I wish that I could take pictures and show people the experiences that we've had here, you know, just driving over this media center recall the like snap a photo of this building. But yeah, is you know, I think the memories that you you get to have this in your head is is cool. How would you compare this? Experience to like the Daytona five hundred which is the Super Bowl of NASCAR. I don't know you're competing in that. So are certain differences. I think yeah. I think it'd be hard for me to compare. Thank you. You could probably do better job. Just 'cause you're on the other side of it. You know when I'm racing. I don't get to experience the fans own or or what's going on behind the grandstands. I get a little bit of what's going on in the infield. And all the celebrities and stuff, but you hear being a fan. You know, it's really cool just to go. I go watch those guys practice on the range around your hidden San shots and chipping and stuff like that. So just will get close to the to the players in. How fans can get close to us note any race is is similar. I don't think there's really many other sports can get as close to the athlete is you can in in golf and racing. But gosh, it's the amount of people at the five hundred on Sunday. And then I think you have more than that here all week. But it's it's unreal. One way that they are. Certainly linked is the emphasis on the event. The notice of the event even for people that aren't hard core fans people that don't consume it on a weekly certainly daily basis or paying attention to the Daytona five hundred and they're paying attention to the masters now. All golfers want to try to consider this just another golf tournament in their mind. You want to try to consider the Daytona five hundred just another race in your mind. That's laughable to me. It's it's a lie. Yeah. I think what's the difference for the competitor. When it's this level of emphasis, I think leading up to the event or at least for me with the big races that I wanna win. I think I do a good job of just treating it as another event, but then when you actually strap in and you're getting to compete. That's when you you can't you you understand how big the the races or whatever. So I'm sure for these guys, you know, maybe leading up they don't do anything different. They don't let the nerves get to them. But then probably when they get to that I t box. I'm sure it feels different. Here there might next week. So that obviously means it's it's not your typical event, you know, means something more so. Yeah. I don't know what those guys are thinking. But that's what I would be thinking. So speaking of the Daytona five hundred current Daytona five hundred champion, buddy. Denny hamlin. Aren't you guys? Have this golf guys thing for those of you listening who don't follow NASCAR? Or it's driving core. Several of these guys Kyle included have a basically weekly tournaments right once a month. Okay. Monthly Tartu do golf every every week couple of times and several drivers participate. I want you to take me through the passion within the driving core for the game. And not just the driving core. The entire garage. I know several of your friends that work in the industry also participate. What is the passion for golf in the NASCAR industry? So I just got into golf about four years ago. I never never golfed before just just hearing there with my friends didn't really enjoy it. But now, I love it. And a lot of it's come from this golf guys or that we have in twenty one of us all. All off your handicapped Stableford system. So YoM, a sixteen handicap your Denny's a six so he's got a score more points night than I do bogies point pars to birdie four ill seven. I think be asked. We just had our first event at the old farm in Virginia. The awesome love it. They treat us amazing. Every time I go there. But yeah, I finished third. We have a PJ professional. I guess sales sales rep. He shot in the today's we played shot like a sixty five the first day in sixty eight or nine the second day to to win. So I can't compete with that almost I lost him by two points. I had my best nine. The old farm. I shot a thirty eight on the back nine, but I shot a forty six on the front, but. It's just fun. You know, it's fun to get together. Everybody and go to mazing courses. That's I tell you what my favorite part of being a NASCAR driver is getting a golf, really nice places. So I just enjoy doing it in. I wanna be way better than I am I've gotten a lot better in the last year. Be I wanna I wanna get I wanna get to where I can actually beat any without getting strokes who's the best golfer. Among the drivers. Denny Denny Denny probably stint houses if you if you matched in house Dinnie together whether this running against each other guys who he's number seventeen. Yeah. If they play together Ricky can get Denny's head and beat any usually most the time. But how does Rickie go about getting into any Ted? He's just I don't know. He's just he just does. I think you'd any tries so hard, and and you want to be Ricky, really bad. But yeah, Ricky just seems to get the better of most times they play how often when you're at a specific location for race. Do you guys get together and play golf at some point during that weekend? Most most Saturdays 'cause practice done, you know, twelve thirty between twelve thirty and one than than de have is t- meeting. So we usually leave the track you'll to clock and then get a quick eighteen in at whatever course Joe's within twenty minutes away. So yeah, we play we play most Saturdays. And then then during the week we'll play on like a Tuesday or Wednesday. Maybe Thursday one thing people may not realize about NASCAR drivers is the mental aspect of it. It can be a mentally exhausting exercise for you guys with the adjustments that you're thinking about throughout the race to make your car faster and then over four or five hundred miles at the end of that your minds pretty cooked golf too is similar. I know you're not playing at a professional level as often as you is pretty pretty professional. What what? What do you think the similarities are in terms of the mental aspect of the sport? I think, you know, something that's pretty easy to compare to be when get down to the final three holes or something. And you're in the running to win, you know, and those pressure four foot putts are pretty pretty equal to your. I feel like what would be a final restart. You know, when you're on the front row with Kabua's or Jimmy Johnson or something like that? So this is hard to keep your nerves down and just focus on on hint, your marks or a reading your line ride or getting the speed, right, whatever. So I would say that. And then, you know, the I t's is always is always intense. Catchy. I usually don't hit many first fairways. Tiger woods. Still gets nervous. Yes. On the first he every single tournament, which I don't understand woods, but he told me that himself. So it's fascinating. Who would you say is nascar's Jack Nicklaus. So I think I think Jimmy Johnson's the greatest NASCAR driver ever. Just I don't know. I guess because he's my generation, and I feel like our sports only got tougher and tougher gotten more equal the drivers you'll have more resources to to be better. So I think Jimmy's the greatest, but then obviously, Dale senior in Richard petty. They off seven championship. So they're they're all up there as well. But but for me getting to compete with Jimmy and see the things that he's been able to do maybe not recently, but is pretty amazing to watch. And how much stuff he's got going on his life and firmness. Still be able to show up on Sundays in be the best is is crazy Jimmy sort of like tiger. Yeah. Because of the generational thing with all that success in such an era was so much parody. So maybe Richard petty is the Golden Bear just not only because of the success. But also because of the passion for growing the game. And sustaining the game that Richard has had all of this time as this fan favorite. I've never even thought of that comparison before but since you're sitting here with me, we got what's your favorite masters, memory or moment as a fan. So honestly, like I said, I didn't I didn't really follow golf much until a few years ago. And I would say really the first master's I watched like all week was when Jordan speak one in him just being I think he's younger than I am young. And I mean just understanding how much pressure he had to go through all week industry to score what he did. And you know, each day is good as he was was was really cool. And I remember him them. You letting him walk up, you know, the fine up to the green on the final hole job. I'm self was this something was a really cool moment to watch on TV. But yes, I mean I follow golf now every week. I watched more golf than I do practice and stuff. It's on TV. It's my my my TV in the motorhome is stuck on to eighteen quite a bit. They will be thrilled to know that have gotten to know any of the of the golfers, which guys are friends of yours. You haven't met really any. I got to play in the pro-am at Kuala last year, which was a lot of fun. I was paired up with Russell Henley. So he was super nice guy. He had just had his first child. I think right before that. I think they're pregnant again. But Kaelin we had our second child week after that. So like, we got to talk about children caught a bit which was cool, and he gave me some pointers and things like that. But yeah, we're playing in that program again this year. It'll be me Ricky Stenhouse junior and Dinnie all in a group. So hope we can get you up with somebody really on. So you're quail hollow pro-am two thousand eighteen and you're welcome to the I t what are your nerves? Oh my gosh. So hey, I got a great. I got a funny story about Quayle before we get to the first teebox. So I didn't realize that we're on the driving range with like the pros and use a couple of weeks after masters Patrick read, just one I'm like you. He's just a couple of spots down for me. And I'm like so nervous. So nervous. I'm like a twenty handicap at the time and some I go do like my first practice, just like half practicing in my club. Knicks the ball, and it goes straight down straight down the driving. If I'm a phone. I can show you everybody. It rolls right across the front of his feet. But so yeah, I was so nervous after that. So then getting the I t. Yeah, I didn't I didn't check my heart or anything, but it had to be like one. Yeah. It was max in. But I hit the first fairway and that relieved a lot of stress it probably took four holes though, until I really like got somewhat calm down. So I'm a little ignorant about one last thing. And we'll let you go back to the tournament and enjoy yourself. It's so fun for me to have gotten a no several of these golfers interviewing them like this and spending time with them. And there's really not much more that gives them confidence and fills up their tank like. Jack, nNcholas or Tiger Woods or one of these legends acknowledging their own talent. Very few guys got that type of acknowledgement from GAAS like Tony Stewart. Jeff, Gordon absolute championship legends of NASCAR. Like you. Did before a lot of us even knew your name. They were telling us your name. How did that impact? You. He had that was that was really awesome. Yes. So in two thousand eleven I won three races racism one night L doors speedway. Midgets sprint cars and silver cars. My first time their race. And I won all three as the second driver to do that. And I just remember after that, you know, watching new NASCAR race there. Whatever it was called the next day on TV. And yeah, they're like interviewing Jeff Gordon about me and Tony Stewart, Casey Kane, and like hearing people talk about me on national television. And then you win tunnel later that night with David Spain's. Wow. This is this is crazy. And then it just kept going on you for few weeks of I felt like every week. Jeff, Gordon was talking about me and Tony Stewart and guys like that. And I mean, it's still continues to. So it just it makes. I mean, I'm sure the same way of prime makes you feel special in here guys and gals. You'll say good things about you. So especially when it's people that you've looked up to in racing for a long time. So I'm very thankful for it. I I don't think if guys like that didn't talk about me. It wouldn't have got my name out there as quickly as big as it did. And I don't think I don't think chicken ASI would've would've wanted to hire me as quickly as he did. So it all worked out and in for me to be able to compete against those guys before they all retired was really neat. Add some great battles with with all of them. So really, really cool and always be fans. There's an extremely thankful for everything they've done for me. So it's amazing stuff. Man. Thank you for your time. Enjoy this. Yes. It's the masters. It's awesome. Thanks for having me. Good liquid at handicapped. Thank you. Ask Tyler's for some time. Now, what it was like for him as a young driver up and coming home, many had not heard of to hear icon ick legends like Jeff, Gordon, and Tony Stewart champion his name and his talent and his future. It has such an indelible impact on him as a competitor. And it's so fun to compare it to the way Brooks kipah has talked to me in the past about Tiger Woods or Rory mcilroy has discussed with me his appreciation and thankfulness for Arnold Palmer. Thank you so much for listening to four please. Now driving the official masters podcast. We're doing this every night through the tournament's completion. Until someone puts green jacket on his back and celebrates history. Goodnight from Augusta National Golf.

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Thursday at the Masters

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Thursday at the Masters

"Hello everyone. Welcome to four. Please out driving the official masters podcast. I'm your host Marty Smith, we'll be recording all week long on property here. At Augusta National Golf club discussing the masters tournament with some of your favorite celebrities, athletes and entertainers, this is Thursday, April eleventh on today's episode we'll chat with ESPN's Scott van pelt about why this is his favourite week of the year. And what it was like back in nineteen ninety seven to watch his friend. Tiger Woods win the masters in historic fashion. We'll also have a conversation with global fashion icon Tory Burch about her newfound passion for golf and the new fashion line that resulted from that passion. So without delay. Let's turn off of Washington road proceed down the famed magnolia lane and get to it first on today's doc. Tournament. Play the masters is underway. Among the key storylines from Thursday's opening round Brooks kept gut and Bryson to Shambo lead the masters following six under par sixty six's. But these story Thursday is Tiger Woods with his best opening round at the masters since two thousand thirteen ESPN's Tom Rinaldi caught up with tiger immediately after his round longside. Tiger woods. Sometimes talk about the difference between how you play and how you score. How would you assess that after this round thought I played well today? I thought I hit a lot of good shots and by MISA missing a correct spots, which was off always key. And I had some of the simpler up and downs. Because of how would you assess some of the putting inside ten feet in particular on the first nine missed a few. Sure miss a couple of them and then hit at one bad one. There was at six but other than that. It was a it was a good solid. I've shot seventy in the last four times the green jacket and softly good start. Now to help us break down. Thursday's opening round on. Please to welcomes any Roberts to the four. Please. Now driving podcast. Thank you so much for your time and insight, sir. Let's start with tiger. How would you describe his performance Thursday? You know, it's funny. I was listening to Curtis Strange on the broadcast during the during the day. And he said Scott van pelt asked him to assess tiger says right now tiger is the show. And Tigers always the show. You know, no matter what he does. I dunno. If you're looking for omens the fact that he shot seventy today, he shot seventy in the first round three of the four times. He's won this thing. You numbers guy. Now, not at all stories guy. But know, I there's something about him. You know, everything he does people just can't seem to get enough them. He's the biggest story even when he's not got the lowest score. I think today I think he played really really well it got a little bit lucky. He birdie two of the holes where he missed the fairway and miss badly. But he looked decent. He missed some short putts shot seventy as I said, you know, he's proven that. No matter what anybody else shoots. He's certainly in the game and around here. I think he looked pretty good today. Outside of missing a couple said, he only had one bad putt had a couple of misreads. I think is going to be an awful lot of fun to watch on Friday and see what he does Jimmy. It was remarkable to follow him. Followed him sixteen seventeen eighteen all the way in there. You could see it. It was well we were seventeen. Eighteen rows deep we were kind of through the right through the corridors there. But we were standing actually right by the eighteenth fairway as after he teed off and he was walking up the fairway and he had bogeyed seventeen. And he looked utterly disgusted with himself. Absolutely disgusted with himself. How how confident were you? Or what percentage chance would you have given him just a couple of years ago to even be in an opportunity like this to be disgusted with a two under seventy in the first round of the master. You know, I think he's obviously come a really really long way. Look he had his back fused. I mean, that's crazy thing for a golfer. I mean, it's all about mobility and rotation. You know, he had his he had his back fused. I don't know how I can say it any more dramatically than that. I think where he's come from. And where he is right now is really pretty remarkable. I was at Eastlake last year when he won that tournament. And I'll tell you what it was one of those things that you had to see with your own eyes. I came out of the booth and I walked onto the fairway and I recorded on my cell phone because I could not believe what I was seeing. I mean, people are totally fascinated with this guy. I think that he such a compelling figure, and he was so dominant at one point that he made people think first of all he made people watch him because they couldn't look away. And once they started watching they thought, oh, this is normal. Right. You know, you're supposed to win a couple of majors a year six eight ten times in a year. Now, that's not normal the year that Tiger Woods turned pro nineteen Ninety-six. The man who won the PGA tour player of the year ward. Was Tom Lehman. He won twice that year. So that was normal for the best in the world for guys to win like that now throughout time people like Johnny Miller, you know, and certainly Byron Nelson folks have had their runs and one well, but he did it through a sustained period of time. And he got people to think. Okay. So this is the way things are right. It's not he really did set. A completely irrational set of expectations for the new Gulf fan who joined the games passion based on. Tiger woods. It's it's so interesting. So. Bryson into Shambo and Brooks cap could get in the clubhouse with a six under sixty six. How would you gauge first? Let's talk Brooks his performance today. He's been stellar in majors of late. Yeah. I think the, you know, the story on Brooks is the fact that he just quietly goes about his business. And you know, he's now what he's one he want half the major championships last year didn't play in the masters because he had surgery on his wrist. You know, and now here he is at the top of the leaderboard in another one. I just heard Scott van pelt saying on the broadcast moment ago, you know, the less or maybe it was gymnast, pardon me. The last time that we came to a position where fellow was going to have an opportunity to win three consecutive US. Open's was Curtis. Strange back in nineteen ninety. It's a long time alone time, and that's exactly what's in front of Brooks kept go right now, and he goes to Pebble Beach in June. He's. You know, remarkable right now by accomplishment. I think that he's the paradox is is that, you know, the guy could walk down main street, and nobody would know who he is. And I think that I think that angers him I know it angers and annoys him. But on the other hand, I think it is to a certain degree by his own making because he has shied away from attention. And I think he's just that type of guy, but you know, by performance, it's it's extraordinarily and he's nails ordinary. He seems completely unflappable. He seems like he has that type of attitude and steely nerve that there is no stage too large for KEPCO at this point to Shambo nearly holes out eighteen and he also goes home Thursday evening with a sixty six. How would you gauge his performance? It was what a crazy finish from him. You know, I was surprised in the morning that the scoring wasn't better. You know in the top of the leaderboard was. Three under par. And it just seemed that there wasn't much wind, and you just couldn't figure why the scoring wasn't better than boom. All of a sudden in the afternoon to Shambo shoot sixty six Kapka, she'd sixty six Dustin Johnsons shoot sixty eight. Phil Mickelson goodness. Shoot sixty seven. You know on and on so and this after the wind had picked up, and I guess, you know, what a number of the players were saying, Adam Scott said it when he came in talked to Tom Rinaldi and said that the whole locations were pretty difficult today. And there were number of them out there that the guys hadn't seen before. And that really makes a difference because you put by memory here you put by experience, but what Shambo did too close. I mean almost a hole in one on sixteen pitches in chips in on seventeen. And then hits the stick on eighteen nail. Yes. Shoot sixty six. So it was really an exciting afternoon. And for me, I think, you know, one of the best stories is this Corey Connors absolute Ori, Connors shoots what he shoots seventy two hundred par. You know, this is the guy who for those who are listening don't know a week ago. He gets the last spot in the masters, but not. Only does he win the Texas Open to get in here. He had to qualify on Monday. Just to get into the field at the Texas Open for more just you know on. There are a handful of times. I think the numbers for five that people have Monday qualified and won a tournament big day coming on Friday. Yeah. What should we expect on Friday? I don't know. You know, there's just something about this. You know about this tournament. There's really no way to wear it out. I think that you wanna see what you wanna see what those who struggled can do to maybe. Right the ship. You wanna see if those who had they say the toughest thing in golf is to follow a great round with at the very least a good round. And so you wanna see what those guys the top of the leaderboard can do. I was surprised that Justin Rose and Jordan speed struggled to the degree that they did. I know speech has not been playing well this year, but his record here is obscene. It is. You know, he's never. Finished lower than eleventh. He's one he's finished runner up. I think he's finished third twice. It's really crazy. What happens to the guy when he gets here? But he struggled today that surprise me. I wanna see what Rory mcilroy does tomorrow. He's a fascinating study human study. I mean, he talk his press conference the other day talking about what he's done to try and deal with the mental side of the game. Who's fascinating. And I think that he was the betting favorite here. Although I don't know if me to say that he was the betting favorite. And of course, he just needs a masters win to complete the career the career grand slam, but you know, little bit of struggle for him today just to pars on the backside. Unfortunately, the rest of those holes bogies outnumbered birdies had four bogeys on the back. So he's got to be kicking himself. It'd be very curious to see what he does tomorrow. He truly did set himself up with this tournament in mind and his continual talk about working to find perspective and balance in his life by separating his professional passion. And his personal life and making sure that his results do not define him as a man and making sure that he maintains his own personal expectation levels. He actually said when was at Allston he said at the match-play in Austin that many of us gave him tremendous credit Rory's back ole-ry set up to be a masters champion now because he won the Players Championship. That is not what he thinks. He says that wasn't my best tournament of the year. Mexico was my best tournament of the year. So my personal expectations and definitions and that which you guys have or not one in the same and he won't be defined by that. So he is on this very unique journey introspective journey for a broader scope, and broader perspective on what he's doing. But and then there's a green jacket part of this. He told me two years ago. I need a green jacket to be fulfilled as a man for. Get a golfer. I gotta have that jacket in my closet to feel fulfilled as a man, I think that might have something to do with what happened when he had one arm in that green jacket, very possibly. Yeah. Very possibly, and it seems and he actually saying this. He said this to me just a couple of weeks ago that he doesn't certainly he wants it. Of course, that's the dream for everybody. But he doesn't need it in order for his life to be fulfilled. So he is making a transition. He has grown as we all do. But he definitely wants to shoot better than one over. Yeah. It was I don't think today. I think they had to be normally disappointing to him as a golfer. But. You know, I still think he's right now he's one of the more fascinating people in the game because he's not just a golfer. You know? I mean listening to his press conference the other day one of the reporters Doug, Ferguson from the Associated Press asked him. You know, what what's the last book? You read any rattled off four books that he had been reading. And then later added a fifth that he had forgotten that he was also reading now, I'm not suggesting that the rest of the PGA tours illiterate. But you know, normally the books that people are reading don't come up in the pressroom since Paul Goydos left, the PGA tour, you know, and it's just a different take any talks about how you know. He's been juggling and meditating, you know, and he is a good sense of humor about himself. And he says it's not like I'm going to go. You know, go off and live with the monks and apol-, but he just recognizes that, you know, he's got work to do if he wants to be fulfilled as a man. And to a certain degree that's tied to what he does for a living. I think he's really interesting guy to he fascinates me. And I think he's an extremely kind awful person. Yup. Hopefully, he'll have a better Friday. Jimmy. Thank you so much for your time and insight it's appreciated market. Be with look forward to tomorrow. It's always so wonderful for me as a fan, and I'm sure so many of you listening can relate to get the perspective of folks like Jimmy Roberts who have such tremendous knowledge of the masters tournament. And he's not the only one my ESPN colleagues got van pelt has been covering the masters since nineteen ninety seven and I had the great opportunity to get Scott's perspective on the tournament. Here's our conversation with my ESPN colleague, Scott van pelt now joining the four please now driving official masters podcast. My man, Scott van pelt was a life is really good. My favorite week of the year. It's just as you know, it's it's special hard to quantify it hard to explain. It's folks it's like I've been saying this week. Someone says, what's what's Gus national? How do you describe what chocolate ice cream taste like really, really good? But if I try to tell it to you, it'll never be as good as if you have a bite of it. So if you're if you're out there, and you've never been just come take a bite of Gus national. You will not regret it. It's so remarkable there truly is no other place like it and not only the aesthetics the aesthetics. Obviously our stunning everything is first class. Everything is immaculate and pristine, but it's also the atmosphere. How would you describe that atmosphere? I it's golf church. And here's what I mean by that. I don't like sports as a metaphor for church and religion you and our guys a faith. I wouldn't minimum. I wouldn't I wouldn't be flippant about jerk that okay? But here's what I mean. Whether you're a true believer, whether you go to church, just grandmom a major go when you go to church you act, right? You. You don't care if it's a soup. But what's what's what do you got in the closet? What's the best f you got you put it on you go and you act, right? Well, when you come here, whether you're a low handicap or high handicapper not even the biggest golfing when you come here you act, right? There's a there's a there's an overall demeanor in the patrons. That's it's just good behavior encourages other good behavior. There's not a whole lot of people hooting and hollering yelling you too man, and mashed potatoes and things like that. It's just not done here. And the reason is it's not done is because one guy didn't do it. Because if the guy does it just gives them aside, I on it. And then the Pinkerton folks will say we hope you've enjoyed your trip to Augusta National we'd like to show you gate six so everybody everybody knows how your she's meant to behave. And it's not that there's big brothers or Weli and people aren't policing you like in uniform the patriots police one another. There's just a way people behave, and I think it has to do mardi with. Being grateful to be here. And if you're lucky enough to come every year, and I I haven't come every year, but I've come for quite a few. You're just happy to be back. And if you're coming for the first time, it's so overwhelming that I just think you're an all of the place. I mean like, I am not an over the top flowery language oversell under delivered. I am not this is the one place where I will allow myself to be as as much as I can give you and I'm still under selling it. I promise you feel like I'm a broken record. I have said this with every guest, no matter how hard you try to paint the picture of Gus to national and how grand you make it. It will exceed the expectation. No matter how lofty that expectation is of the first timer agree. I was on with Waddle and Silvy our friends in Chicago on ESPN radio. And I was doing what I just did with you get long winded about this that and the other and when I got done Waddell city, I went last year was a bucket list thing. I said on my overselling it a said if anything you're under sell. Okay, there you go. Oh, right. It's it's it's if you're a sports fan, and you like college basketball, you gotta go to Cameron. You gotta go to fog, Alan, and they're great. But ultimately, it's basketball court the same as any basketball court if you like baseball you'd Wrigley Fenway you like college football. You wanna go to Norman or Baton Rouge Tuscaloosa or pick a spot and Arbor, Columbus, I'm not this is not SEC specific just say, they Blacksburg they keep losing on those big games there. I don't understand anyway, go to those places, but ultimately their football stadiums or their basketball stadiums. There's only one of these and this is the one and an until you see it until you walk around in it. It's impossible to understand it in. That's that's why people like me who've been coming for many years people like you her making return trips here. I think that we carry with us this enthusiasm for it is this so genuine so easy to have nineteen ninety. There's a young man with a full head of. Hair sorta makes his way to Augusta National and watches another young man, whom he's known with a full head of hair with a full head of hair. That's right. Dominate the masters tournament. What was nineteen ninety seven like from your perspective as someone who already knew tiger, very well at that time to see him have that transcendent moment. It was it was a standing because and keep in mind that was my first my first time here. So it's I'm overwhelmed to begin with. And then we see you know, the youngest the lowest the largest margin. The fact that you know, given his ethnicity. I mean there was there was cultural significance the reporting significance. And I've told the story over the years of my recollection of tiger on a golf cart being taken down to come see the media, and as he's just started a wheel off. I just look into my sit. This is after he just destroyed column Gummer, and he's up a hundred going into some. I just said I said what the hell are you doing? And he just looked means smile, and like give you that tiger shortness Scotto know, and you know, what the cool thing is he didn't. And I mean, he didn't recognize because how could he in that moment what this was going to represent? It was the beginning of of an era in this sport. Which because the sport allows you to play for years into your forties continues now different obviously. But it was with the benefit of time to be able to look back with more than twenty years in recognized that this was the canon ball in the deep end. And what would the waves be that reached the the shore and? It was it was as I said standing and looking back at it. Now, recognizing that we've seen there's history every year here, but nothing like that has has happened since but nothing like that had happened before. So it was it was it was that line on the wall. Right. The hundred year flood where you put the line on the wall and people look up guy is water. Never got that high yet. Did I was here. I saw it. It was something you were here in five. I was and magin as a young man you watch Jack in nineteen eighty six I did with my dad those are indelible moments of the masters tournament. What is the moment for Scott van pelt? It might even be ninety seven. Yeah. That's great. Well, I'll tell you tell you the moment that I have that others. Wouldn't my master's memory is that I got to catty in the par-three tournament for David Duval. No, you can't it for David Duval and we played with with Davis. Love the third and Freddie Couples and Davis boy, drew who at the time was an idiot guy. We got rate we race caddy races. So we ran down the seven th fairway. We'll drew. He's I don't know. How old he is? Maybe four five six something. He's carrying a bunch of clubs. He's wearing caddy whites. And he gets a little bit wobbly, and he's talked he's stumbles and falls clubs in the air. And I have three picture sequence of the beginning the middle in the fall of him hitting the deck and a couple years ago. I took a picture of the picture, and I sent it to Davis Love, and I said sin this, drew. He now has a baby of his own. And it was just cool because Davis is like oh my goodness. Like that day. And none of nobody played great. But the joke with David, of course, was if he was playing any good we'd hit it in the water on I 'cause you can't let him win, blah, blah, blah. But I got to experience something inside the ropes mardi that that so few get to. And it was with David who I wanna say might have been number one in the world at the time. Davis. Love the third, Freddie. Three great, gentlemen. And I mean. You talk about a day. Boy, there's I've had there's been a lot rounds a lot of a memories here. But that that that afternoon wearing the caddy whites with David that was I mean, that'll never leave me you talking about watching eighty six with your father. That's one thing about the masters that is so endearing to me, it's one of those generational events. And. I wonder what little Scotty would've said. But look man, the fact of the matter is you won't say this about yourself. So I will say it. You are one of the faces. You are one of the voices, you are one of the institution personalities of this institution. Let's kind of it's just the truth. What would that look ten or twelve year old guy have said about sitting right here right now in that type of position one? You never would have believed it, of course, when I was little I was sure that I was going to be the one ever was talking about right? I was going to be the guy in the arena. Then the reality said in when I realized I was good. But not great. But. You and I both know what it is to try to make our dads proud. Right. We we do that we wake up every day even as an older down. My dad ever got to be. And I'm still in the business of China. Make dad proud, and I know it would I know how thrilled he'd be for me. But you can't live your life. Just for your data China live from me, I try to live from my family, and I'm just I'm just so grateful, man. I there's places around here that it's real easy to stop and take look around. And and I do and the first thing I did on Mondays I went to that t the eighth t- on the on the par-three course. And I just say a little prayer. Just thank the Lord for for the year. I'm thankful that. I'm standing where. I'm standing. I appreciate that. This is where I'm standing little little me would never in believed. It's possible that that I could come here and get to do this. So old me tries to stay always always always grateful and recognize that this is this is truly a blessing everyday is this here, particularly. Magnified blessings, and so I'm just grateful, man. That's it. You're so close with so many of these guys who have put the green jacket on their back. How does that change a golfer's life? What impact does that have not only as a professional? But as a human being when they accomplished the ultimate peak in goal. I think this place more than any other every major significant, right? You win a major. And then it's it's proof that I can I can survive those seventy two holes against the best in the world when the stakes of the highest lights brightest all good US open. Great open championship. Oldest one. We played PGA. Also, great underrated by the way, coming ESPN next year. The masters is singular in this way as great as all the stuff that you, and I are talking about me going over the eighth tea and the memories in the fact that we get to come back as great as all that is when you how does it change your life? You know that for the rest of your life in the spring. You will go to Augusta and you'll have a green jacket that will have your name in on it because you earned it, and you want it, and you and your family get to come back to this place and renew acquaintances with friendships with friends renew friendships, I should say spend some time out looking at these alias spend the time in the company of these people that whose company you've earned the right to keep. That's that's how it changes you. You know, you don't have to hope you get to drive down Magni lane every spring, you know, that you get to do it, and you get to park in that champion's parking lot, which is little and that's a that's a perk, man. And it's not it's not none of it's taken lightly because everyone understands that it's earned and everyone. Stands that that that little invitation you get in the mail everybody talks about that the letterhead. How do I put it the the weight thing? Yeah. Yeah. Just the weight of the of the stationary. I mean, it's there's a thickness to it. Right. And it's it's you know, it you could close bet you close guys is and put that in their hand. Like, oh, this is the end by masters in it, it sure is no one wants coming for you every spring and you get to come back nothing else. Like it in this sport. That's why the green jacket represents so much to these guys because it's a rest of your life thing. Well, feel so blessed to even get to be on these grounds. And thank you so much for your time and insight, and I love fellowship with you brother, its first class person right on you're my guy, and you know, that nights. It's great to have you love the rot. Favorite part of that conversation is Scott is how proud his father would be of him. He and I have always had a tremendous bond as friends not just colleagues, but as friends as men who grew up idolizing, their fathers and gained their appreciation for sport from their father's passion for sport. We both grew up watching the masters tournament with our dads. And I just love to hear what he had to say about that. And his story about the par-three was pretty good too. I know you guys enjoyed that. But I also know that many of the ladies listening to the four, please. Now driving official masters podcast could not wait for my next conversation with global fashion icon, Tory Burch who is new to the game of golf in fact, she's just about to take playing it. This is her first trip to the masters, and it's always so. Wonderful to hear people's perspective on the first time. They come to Augusta National Golf club. Her passion for golf is growing. And it in fact, spawned a brand new fashion line. You'll learn about all of that in this conversation with Tory Burch. Absolutely thrilled now to introduce Tory. Burch, of course, globally recognized fashion designer you like that introduction. I will tell you this had the great blessing in my life to interview, so many different types of people of great acclaim, my wife, Laney, generally doesn't care she and her girlfriends are losing their mind to spend this time with you. So thank you for doing that. I water your impressions of the masters and Augusta National when I walked in. You asked me how I was doing. And I could say never better. I honestly have heard about the masters for so long and have tried even to come. I could never imagine. What the masters early was until I was here today. It is extrordinary. It is beautiful the energy the people the flowers the architecture, the grass I can go on and on will that is one thing about this tournament. That is so special is the aesthetics just stunning to the I and in your profession. I imagine that's one of the most important. Attribute in your passion. It's says. You see? Well, I kept saying I think on sensory overload, partly it, certainly I see everything beautiful because I see group of people a massive group of people, which is I wasn't for paired for this big of it group. But they're also happy to be here. And a little optimism is a great thing right now, and for me to see that surrounded advise such exquisite beauty and even new buildings look old, and they've always been here and looking at these giant hanging geraniums that I love and Elliot's and and the wisteria I could go on and on. But then you look at the courses and just this sharp golfers that are out there just having the best of their life. So I'm intrigued how would you describe Gulf fashion? I've always been interested for saw. I love sports. So I'm I think I think of myself as forty person and when. People say are you golfer? I have to answer answer. No. And that's so sad because I will be but I'm a tennis player, but I've always been really interested in women's golf clothing. And I think it's because it started with Katherine Hepburn, and I loved watching her she's one of my favorite people ever, and she loved golf, and I always have been interested in the Gulf has evolved from then until now, and so we decided to start our sport collection about three years ago golf was definitely part of it. And I was very interested in thinking. How can we have things that are super functional and something that real golfers wanna plan? But also combine that was style. I was going to ask you, you have your new line Tory sport. I was going to ask you what was the inspiration for that? It may be MRs Hepburn inspiration. Actually, it was The Royal Tenenbaums. But. But I think it really was just the fact that I grew up playing sports, and I love all sports, and it seemed like a natural extension for our company, and it was we've been working on it for so long. I almost felt like well all of a sudden we're on trend because we we'd been working on fabrics for maybe five years before we even launched sport line because he's very interested in the idea of having fabrics that were functional having closed that were super functional, but didn't really read functionally I wanted a more classic appeal. And so I wanted I wanted the properties to be a given and the wyking and the Coolmax and the sun sun, protection and everything there. But I also wanted it to be stylish and not necessarily about it being seen on the outside noted some of those attributes that go into sport clothing versus traditional fashion. How did that challenge you? It was huge town. It was starting from scratch again and number one doing. Start up again, I've gotten how hard it was. So I didn't realize it would take me this long to get it off the ground. And it certainly has I'm so passionate about it. I've learned so much I surround myself with the most incredible team who all had a sport background. So I came from more of a fashion background. I learned so much about fabrics and developing different materials and the way athletes need to feel and how they need to move in the in the sports that they play as you're preparing to go to the masters all of us have this certain vision of what it's going to look like how did your vision intersect? What it really looks like, well, I have to say my impression of the masters changed drastically in the most positive way when an what happened, and and not that it was ever negative because it's always positive, but when you added an element of amateur women's golf for me that was trans. Formative? I started our company because I wanted to start a foundation for women. And so to have that aspect partner with the masters in the way that you did this year was truly meaningful, and it it was something that I think is just looking forward going to be an excellent thing for everyone. So it sounds like we're discussing the gross national women's amateur. It sounds like that inspiration in some ways was a ballot Asian for your vision for that live. Well, I think it was also from your perspective or or actually from gusts respective why they were also interested in working with us when they were planning on doing that. But I definitely would have. I I didn't know that much about it when I've met with when we had our first meeting, I was blown away by the people that work here and soul sold immediately on on just Augusta tradition. The history the beauty. And and but that was just something. So additive as meticulous as everything is here. It is inspiring just to be here. And they're such a wonderful spirit, which I've discussed with so many people on this podcast. How would you describe the spirit of the master? I would say it's the most positive environment. I've seen in a long time. And I think in a way everyone has an inner athlete in them. And even though I'm not a golfer per se that doesn't mean I don't wanna learn golf immediately coming here. So you've been spires now, it's been a huge inspiration. So next time we speak. Hopefully, I'll have a handicap or we're going to put down the tennis racket, then the golf club houses going to work. No now, I just have to find more time. We all need to have more time to golf three sons. Right. Yeah. What do they say about mom having the opportunity to go to Augusta? So beyond thrilled. Two of them were traveling or they would have begged to. They love golf they love watching it too. As you progress throughout the rest of the day in your time here to goes to national what do you hope you kind of take away from this experience here? Well, I hope one thing that also was watching with with Shanna for and Maria was there commod ary and the elegance in which they celebrated that tournament as a winner and someone that did not win and the way they handled themselves and just it was such a lesson in humility and grace, and that's something that is far as me. But aside from that, what do I take away is? I would like to come back because. Like instant positive just reinforcement for. I don't know the next six months. It's like, you you leave here inspired and and feeling great. And I just think it's a wonderful thing. And it's so fun to there. There's nowhere else that go that has that this air, and it's the respect for the grounds that permeates the patrons and thereby your more respectful of your peers there are none of these. So you're immersed the moment. You're actually fellow shat together. Instead of watching the world through an iphone and says tremend- will tell you. I'm gonna learn from that because I like not having an iphone today. It's been it's been very rewarding and freeing, and I am actually thinking of taking that to the office for day every now and then maybe day every two weeks now I found so so it makes you present. It makes you present in. This life, especially as a driven professional the hardest thing to do is be present is not be looking ahead is not be concerned with what's behind it's to be immersed in the moment. And this is one of the only places that that's possible. The dinner table to wouldn't children will never have their phones at the dinner table. How do you think you'll take that to the office? Are you going to have like no phone Friday? Now, I was just thinking about it. I mean, listen, I like the idea of no iphones. I I'm scared of social media and some ways I think that it's you know, we all need to look at our lives where they were ten twenty years ago, and where they're going and certainly for our children from our children's perspective because that's all they know. So how do we be present? And take the good from what technology can offer, and and really sort of erotic eight the bad. It's a big question. I know it's a huge question and one that every one who's a parent is grappling with often. Yeah. Steadily Gusta is leading the way they're leading the way in many ways and inefficiency how taking this imply there's so much blue beauty and simplicity. You know that look at what you do. Right. There's so much beauty in that. This place is the poster for that. It's funny how reverting away from this remind you of how wonderful it is to be present. And to be together. And something about a Gusta that I've noticed is the nostalgia. Whether it's in print on glass or the architecture of a building or the interior of a restaurant, and that that goes back to a time that was a little simpler than today, and certainly that all ties together chic nostalgia out want to feel that often. And I can't tell you how much we appreciate your time. Thank you. We're we're honored to be here. So thank you so much. Thank you so much for listening to four please. Now driving the official masters podcast. We're doing this every night during tournament week all the way through Sunday when someone will put a green jacket on his back. Good Knighton from Gusta national Gulf.

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Masters Preview 2019

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Masters Preview 2019

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Like, oh, I actually downloaded and started using a better teatime, and they just gave me a thousand. Let's go real things. One hundred ten we're gonna win that. Yeah. That's ten grand. They're giving away. So big. Thanks, spring offer continuing to be the best in the business. A little bit of a special show for us. It's two AM one fifty eight one fifty nine o'clock destruct one fifty nine AM one fifty nine. Look, you can't record a one fifty nine AM podcast and not tell everybody recording fifty nine AM. That's the first thing. I wanted to be like it's masters week. That's number one. Number two is fuck at this point nine. In the goddamn born does rollercoaster of a day in New York City. Unlike a gloomy one fifty nine more on but we're talking golf we? Usually don't talk Goth at this point like in like life, right? Like like, usually in ram is that what it is. I'm usually getting my elbows fucking beat up by some demon in my bed right now. Box. My arms are usually halfway to being dead at this point in the night. Like right now circulations is being cut off on old Frank zoo of you are usually in the middle of the Saab movie. Trent is slowly rising from the sheets at this moment. But today on this Tuesday morning, we talking gall we're talking golfing. It's mother fucking mass doing their message secret measles. Dreaming about Augusta. So now, we're talking about it. We just haven't got reacclimated yet. So Frankie, and I were in Minneapolis. We've been there since Thursday night for the final four. We're doing live radio doing all kinds of stuff. We couldn't record today. Just didn't work out. We were trying to squeeze it in this that for different time. We thought we were going to record. We were like should we call in? Can we do a split a splitter? Cell phone, call in thing P came up the business Pete who usually does a lot of like the behind the scenes stuff. And he's like do you have that phone splitter? I'm like I looked at him. Like, what are you fucking splitter? What are you? What are you looking at me for pal? So we try to get that done. We figured Frankie. Stop in your face doing thing. I have no sense of way agenda, you keep headbutting your mic. I literally went to turn my head. And I just keep headbutting my mic we've been doing this podcast here you've been on this podcast, year and a half. To figure it out. Hundreds of shows you hit your head on the microphone well to be fair. It's it's now to to allow at five four three two one two zero one. Look, you guys I love the master clock. And so we're all kinda delirious right now, it is literally to one we tried to record. Couldn't get it done because we've been out of town figured it's too big of a show for us to kind of half ass it by some calling bull shit. So here we are in studio we had Trent and Frank or Trent and Jake had to literally set their alarms. I wake up at like one thirty A AM. I went to bed at nine pm. We took a flight straight from Minneapolis during the game. And then landed took an Uber, straight the obvious. So it's two am were grinding through. But we do get to talk off. It's masters week. It is such a beautiful thing. Couple things from our trip to Minnesota number one. We went by Minnesota golf university of Minnesota Gulf the did their facility brand new facility, very very cool spa. They gotta track man in their their Rippin there. Just like a really fun cool environment. They're Rippin drivers the rip and drivers off the deck the track man just gives you all your feedback in real time. So they're able to just hit out of these hitting bays all year round. What you have to have obviously Minnesota because it's negative twenty all year round. And then they just built on top of it. They've got this indoor like chipping and putting facilities state of the art facility. It's like sitting on that. So they have this little area behind public range, and like the they're like, oh, well, first of all we're sitting on a bar in Minneapolis. And Briggs gets a DM I guess from the captain of the team or someone from the team. Oh, yeah. Guy fish fish fish. And he he's a you wanna come over. And we're like, yeah. We're just doing nothing. What was a Saturday Sunday? We're just under afternoon. Sunday, Minneapolis, like really nice weather out year. We're going to go over the Minnesota fucking golf team and see their facility. He's like make a right on this old dirt road like the song. Like, he's like take your horse down by the old dirt road old tower. Literally, go behind this fucking shed. And like the overdrive though, we're gonna murder someone. But then like you turn this corner. On this mud on this like little mud patches like the nicest, building you've ever seen your entire life brand new brand new Sony brand news like they took the bubble wrap off yesterday. I liked when you said state of the art facility. I don't know if I've ever been to a city facility in anything of the state of the art. Yeah. Yeah. What is state of the art? That means if you break it down, I don't know state of our. So it's like this is the current state of this art, and it's the most cutting edge, and it is state of it is amazing. So we had this chipping facility bummer for Frankie. Now were they being media under under? I thought they had bad intentions of inviting us once I got there. I realized that there was a reason why we got invited. It wasn't just a see the place. So that they can put a wedge in my hand and the first five seconds. I got in there. Now, what the fuck is that they put his hands. And then they all just circled and got their phones out. It was a setup like you've never seen a circus show show. They're like, here's our state of the. Facility. Oh, and by the way, the lefty from the group is coming with a full bag of wedges. And and we have all these balls here to hit on this turf inside this room. Now a couple of the videos from Frankie went ill-will viral. I guess in our little golf world, especially helped by our friend Bryson into Shambo who has been known to bury Franks always quick, you know, he doesn't always answer me when I asked him to play fortnight, but he's very quick to to the to the Instagram stories, whenever I fucking Shankar wedge. What a little crazy up there. Frank, just skull fucking wedge over this green elbows iron balls through windows and shit at this in the state of the art facility. Minnesota an indoor chipping facility, you think I'm gonna trip around this thing. Are you crazy? I haven't had a good wet in two and a half years. Bryson quote tweets the thing and says he should try bowling knock a lot more pins down that butter knife, ever worship. I hit. It was in years like they had this little fucking now the facilities. Awesome. Right. The track man's awesome. Like the way you're able to hit your drives up the deck, and all this everything. But they had this. A little sand trap that I was built for failure. Like, I it Sandra turf. It's just more turf. That looks Browns. There's a different rally. Yeah. So like hit a flop shut out of there for I'm like, this is like heading off a off a rug. How I can't hit it off fluff. Whenever I'm like, you know, I'm Bethpage. I'm like, I need a nice little fluffy, Patrick rice. I can't it off a run. It was a tightest lie in the world. Crazy, Frankie couldn't get out of that bunker to save his life. Obviously. Now, we did a little putting contest regional chip and contest, the thing is awesome. So that was the first real like college golf silly. I experienced by the way. So then we moved over to the we moved over to the hitting bay. Yeah. And Frankie, I Frankie steps up grabs like a seven hundred or something hits it, and he actually I mean, frankly has beautiful golf swing for anyone who hasn't really is gorgeous lefty. I watched that story like eight time, he isn't a useful fluid golf swing and you should've heard everyone and they go. Oh, you just I mean, he's just taken out windows inside the. Chipping area, and Alison he steps up to the thing. Like, oh, the guy can actually play golf. It's amazing. The difference along swing like a two handicap your chip like thirty. I don't look like the same. You like I watching and I was even saying rigs. I there was a moment where I like looked at him today. And I was like dude like, this isn't even like a joke at this point. I actually watched video of myself chipping like the one that Bryson Ri put up on his cigarette story, and it doesn't look like me from behind like the way I stand. I stand like hunched over I don't even look at let it when I'm for some reason. It's just I have the hips, man. I bend. My knee weird. I try and fucking scoop the ball. But then you put any other club Mahan. I can at least look like I was saying to myself like looking athlete today. I mean, my you kept saying that over the ball. My DM's are full people telling me to tell you what to do it's crazy over the I can't get away from coaches and diagrams in. It's all I will say Bryson do bother me. But someone you know, he may have also been like, hey, we want to figure this out we can figure this out. So that's a little teaser for what may be in. The future of Bryson saying like I understand what you're going through here, Frankie, but we can fix us. He's he spilled bowling wrong in that chair. Did his little typo. You know? I don't know if we're actually didn't like to see that. Because I was kind of human of them. Yeah. I don't know if we're those kind of guys that call people out for type books we are now. Yeah. Okay. Ahead against a fucking, Mike. I came in look straight to seven in the morning as a reach forever. You can I mean. Smart super smart guy, at least spell everything. Right. You know, maybe a region here. I don't know. Like the type of guy that would spell check. Or like, correct away said it like, you know, what braces type a guy is that I would fucking freak out if I had to say like, oh, my friend, and I or me, and my friend. I'd be saying that in my head like what's the right term to say around this guy because he will judge me on Baso. If I said, they're opposite one what not to be a little bit of a grammar not to here. Yeah. But you know, people mess up all the time is when they you tell they're trying really hard to do grammar correctly. And they do the like, Jen. And I thought everybody come join gen and like I at this party, right? It's like, no actually you're supposed to pretend like the blank and isn't part of it. And that's how you would say. So you would just say like come join me at the party. You would say come join. I at the part, right? See that's exactly what people I would always tell the party. He beg your in. People are always trying to get it. Right. And you can tell that they make that extra step to be, oh, I know this one and they get it wrong. This is my him in screw that up. My pricing rigs. Hit it off. Yeah. These that's their best pals that that thirty second meeting that one time in other best friends, it'll dapper up on Dr arrange look Frankie's trying to sit there and chirp. But at the end of the day, he had a nice little conversation with Bryson there. He's going to help them out Bryce and wants to help them out, and Frankie he had a nice little moment that happened where this I guess it was the during his official press interview. In the Augusta National media center, which is a nice place pretty official place. He's doing his interview and somebody put this graphic up. And it just says Bryson Shambo has not finished under par through seventy two holes in any major. That's just the graphic that guy loves Franky Braley. Yeah. It's a great graphic that we needed something. Like that. We need a w over Bryson what an absurd things just ricochet shop like he also this just a fact he Bryson his guy, he wouldn't argue facts. And that's that's a fact it's a statistical scientific fact I mean, they could have put up there guys won like five events in the last year and a half. Half is signed. Decide typical. It's a vocabulary is all about confidence. Scientic were no side scientifically campy award. No. But that's, but like you said, it's a fact that the whatever they put up about Brian typical J or just can't no chance anyways. That was fun. Yeah. It was to sort of golf guys. We appreciate it. Awesome. Awesome. Experience. Very one of the best color schemes and logos. In college sports, assure really place. I mean, if you're a place that I would never think to go golf. But now after seeing it's like law, obviously like you go play golf you plan on an amazing team. They won the fucking national change from two thousand to the coaches craze coach there was on the team they've cool facility. And then all of a sudden, you get just like watch hockey like some of the best hockey, and like the world, I go, you know, it's like you're hanging out with guys who were literally going in the NHL in shits fifty thousand people going to Minnesota too. So cool Jesus, isn't that nuts? The guys couldn't have been cool to like this is where we live is where we buy beer like they're driving us all around there. They're really cool guys. I feel like from having no college golf teams into now we have to I forgot about that. I put Instagram being like think we're big gopher golf fans. Now ninety percent of replies. Like oh. That was really fucking quick. You suck like thought your Mississippi State conference? I I didn't say eight Mississippi State off. Now, we can be fans of a couple of different conferences. It's like they're different totally different than am. I gonna have to root for one over the other, right? Never all in a Minnesota. Yeah. That's a mid west thing. I'm all in on Minnesota's. Well, Minnesota's great Mississippi state's great if they are playing against each other fine. We'll have to come up with some tough decision. We're big fans of both teams connections to both squads one show to surround the other one. They got amazing nicknames. They call into the show and tell great stories we're fans -able squads their rages settled out there. We can be fans at two out of like a hundred college golf teams not that big of a deal are other experience before we get into the masters was we had now I like dot gov. I've been to top golf two or three times now in my life. I'm generally a big fan of talk off. It's fun. It's casual it's great for the game of golf for the Graham Cray, or unless you get the treatment that we have next. I was. Was going to give a big, but a whole thing. And then, but I usually like talk off, but we had the worst talk all trans you could possibly have what do you leave? They fucking put us on the first floor far left up against this wall. The whole point go at top golf, you get that elevated Instagram they put up you can see all the targets down below you. See, right. Where your golf ball lands? It fucking lights up like your article on the set of like the original Space Jam or something like this something and say years hitting the bowl until like outer space. Now, we're down in the bottom left part. We can't even see where ball lands because we're so fricking lows like we were below ground heading for parking lot. Real. I'm a lefty. So that the wall was on the left. I couldn't even go after some of the targets because I was afraid of they hit the wall. And I should Vince. It was it was I'll convince it was his manager didn't like us and put us down there purpose because on the way they're like art places so fucking far away. And so in the parking lot we walked by. Maybe I don't know eighty other Bet's on the way, and like thirty of them were just open having level two or three was never an option for us. It was always level one all the way to the left. It was never another out sick with walked out, and they're like look cool top cow after we had a horrible experience. We're walking out of the place, and like we're on the second level now, and we're like looking out at the place where like tuck off smoking awesome. We just spent an hour and a half year. We didn't see any of this. Ours is like we went to a shitty driving range. That's eventually I got my shit like pumped in by like M B and like Casey Smith because I just couldn't hit a target bad. Look for you on the internet that scoreboard. Ripen the ball. Just couldn't hit a target. Yeah. It's it's really it's kind of an equaliser for people. Like, it's nice because you can get people have high scale people of low skill. You can get women involved men involved like whoever you want you can kind of go play Tom com again fun. But like if people can't get the golf ball of the ground, but they can make contact it like skirt along and end up in a target area and get some points. Frankie was hitting like flushed like seven hundred right down the middle in between the targets and getting zero. Linda. Three without crush him like two twenty and I'm like, let's go and zero point you getting zero why am I going zero points? Yeah. You got that scoreboard went up and out of six people including like, Casey Smith and be wasn't even clauses. You're in. You were the last place. Yeah. Spider. VU does tough. But anyways, top golf, generally, cool, this dot gov experience. We had Minnesota about his bad and horrible the golf because you don't really come across top goff's that much in like, the no, Don know, a little bit of a bad day was that I think just got super loud. Yeah. You were so loud. Topped off. No, I love top golf. I go in there's one near my parents place in Arizona that we always go to and it's super fun. We usually get on like the second or third level though, discussed stale one. Yeah. That one sick. Yup. I've been to that one twice right next to the Iowa. Awesome spot, and you can always see your ball land out there. Baker sale got staff I've been to the Scottsdale when I stayed at that hotel. Okay. What is it? Call the talking stick. It's unreal hotel. Right. Oh, yeah. Went there went there with my girlfriend, and I got a really bad room. And I went and I complained and they gave us a penthouse suite. Is that true? Oh, yeah. I was like, hey, I'm here for like, I know, I'm not. But I went there. It was a big trip. Like, we're gonna go to the Grand Canyon antelope canyon like do all sorts of cool like outdoor shit went there like spent a ton of money on this. Like, it's pretty nice hotel and casino. Like, we just turned twenty one twenty two. So it's a big deal for us. And they put us in this room where like the only view was fucking the parking lot. And like it was shooting the sun into our room. Like, what is this shit? This is like this is what adult spend money on like, no way. So I went up there told this whole spiel the like, all right? We got some for you open up the door. And there was like champagne waiting for us in the fucking ten penthouse. We'd never had a nice room since then. Wow. Four or five years the moral of that is complaining works. Does it one hundred at the end of the day complaining work past the threshold of being uncomfortable with that guy? You're going to get a ton of shit guy behind it works that guy's going behind that Cantor's going home that night, and he's forgetting about you. But you like you get to live that experience. And he just click the button every restaurant. I go to every time I go get lunch. Someone's always in their complaining about their lunches. Give free launch all time. I own a restaurant if you want a free meal, you just say something if you don't want to pay that day, just say something your dad, what am I? Like, I mean within reason right. Like, you can get like you can scoffed out. It'd be like, okay. Like there was nothing wrong. You. Like, you know, if you don't like your chickens big, I don't like if you if you want to be an asshole being Essel assholes get pretty you can scheme your way pretty now. You are going to be an asshole like I'll call you and ask. Yeah. You'll. Yeah. You'll like being day. Just didn't wanna say never. Plus, I think they were trying to get vantage a younger kit like they saw younger couple. Fuck fuck with these kids. You know, we should have done atop cough complained complain. Oh, yeah. And there was a key there. Well, you just we just complained on the podcast next time top golf is going to like they're going to the red carpet. There was a better just to put a bow on this door. And we'll move on. There was a manager there that was the same age as spider, and he buddied spider. He goes, he goes, just fifteen minutes, buddy, and spiders, like I'm about to throw hands. He bodied him. Hey, anybody them. So. Yeah. It was a little short little short guy just as same size aspire. Same ages spider walking around like his little tucked in top golf shirt. And he's like, fifteen minutes, buddy. And then he stuck us in the corner, though. No that's going back to no chance. I was an accident no-show show. This is the only open bay the what the one in the fucking garage. Yeah. 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I sit in my nice kind of buji almost hipster hotel in Minneapolis watching these girls. Go blow for blow down on the back. Nine at Augusta National incredibly cool Jennifer Cup. Joe, I believe that's how you say. He's cough Cup job. Was that Cup? Joe? That's a nice name cut up show that hey pronounce it though Cup. Joe I was reading it on Twitter all week. I just couldn't get it. When her name popped up on the screen new. I've never be able to get it Cup show. I think that's right her and Maria Fosse who is an electric name. Yeah. She's rea- Fosse. She is she us who had Howard. And she was doing the let's go to the crowd the whole time. It was awesome. These to again going back and forth when I turned it on their kind of a round in the back nine and Fosse had like a two stroke lead and was just looking lights out. She's kind of making some big clutch putts. Ultimately ended up turning the other way Cup show hit. A three wood. Or I think it was like a hybrid on thirteen over the raise creek till like four feet. Unlike any other scenes, she's down to at the time you're thinking, and she gets out driven all day long at a faucet, girl. So she's done in the middle of your thinking like that kept talking to oh, she's usual in the plays this consistent game. She doesn't have to play his aggressive, but she's two strokes backs. You're like, okay, she's standing at thirteen on thirteen the balls. Like, it's like a baseball swing the ball so much above your feet. This. We've seen the best players in the in the history of golf show. Kieran hit bad shots your hidden. Raise creek, make bogey make double see that shit. All time. It's Augusta National in the back nine hits a three wood or hybrid river was till I four feet makes eagle squares it up ends up playing. She played the last holes like five hundred par last like five or six holes. She played them like four or five hundred par ended up winning by couple. They were kind of fist-bump but a little bit. But they're also very competitive. It was awesome. It was an awesome way to get a kind of get I guess reacclimated to Gus. The national and the fact that we got to watch two people out there. I mean being the inaugural champion in this thing is incredibly cool. And the fact that it's Saturday before the masters gets turn it on and watch people play something that means everything to them on a Saturday and see the whole. I mean, just seeing the courses like oh shit. And the fact that it was just these young Amador lady. Golfers was awesome. I I still can't believe they're doing this. And I'm I love it. But it is it is strange seeing Augusta a week before the Saturday just being like, oh there it is. They're going to be here in a week. And it's going to be amazing. I'm really glad that they do it and is a very cool little warmup for for the tournament this weekend. It was very cool. Yeah. It was interesting to thinking like as I was watching where they're pretty legitimate crowds out there. Yeah. And you're thinking like these these nineteen twenty twenty one twenty two year old young women don't play in front of a lot of people ever. Right. I mean, even like the young men don't like ever playing in front of a ton of people in here. They are on TV on like now. National TV playing the back nine or playing Gusta national and on top of that like when they were playing when they were play like, Amen Corner. It was packed when they were playing and walking up sixteen which is like that's like the the big feeder on sixteen one of the best eaters off golf. It was like packed or getting standing ovations out thinking these girls are playing this. Well in front of this many people on TV on the back nine at Augusta. It was amazing. I expected everyone to kind of collapse. They ended up like lap in the field. The two of them and having kind of a heads up match. It was awesome. It was really cool. That's a great great way to get into to kind of slide into masters week. I did see some of Twitter doing the inevitable. Well, while while it is cool to see the event, it's pretty ridiculous that we're celebrating something that had gusts could have just done like fifty years ago. And that's you know, I get the point. But it's also like I mean, they're just doing like fed Ridley the new guy he's pretty new ear to into this gig. As a chairman like. They're just all you can judge now is based off what they're doing at the time. One hundred percent. You know what I mean? Yeah. You can't you can't he can't like pay for the sins of the past. Right. Like, yeah. Whatever's happening now is good. I understand that. It's very easy thing to say to be like, oh, man. This should have been done a long time ago. That's true. But it wasn't. But the doing it now. Right. We're celebrating like this is happening now. She can't I don't know. It just seemed really weird to me. It's like I can nobody's happy. Right. That'd be like when Obama visits like Harare, Kip yet. Well, I mean Newton sixty years. Well, I mean, that's just wasn't that had anything to do with trying to get better. Now. All the cattle get that. So that was I felt like some of those were a little bit of like cheap shots and getting like a little bit to kind of like white ninety. It was like look like, they're this is all good great thing. That's happening. Now. Sure. Would there's a lot of other arguments that can make over the last fifty six years about equality of this and that, but like we're living in the now here doing what they they're doing a great thing. Now, they've created this awesome thing everyone involved is going like crazy over thing. The the women are gushing over the factor. Playing at Augusta in a competitive round. It's on pick cools live in the moment. It'd be awesome. Those the picture of them fist pump in well could legitimately be in the clubhouse of every single golf club in America. That's one of the coolest Pixar ever seen that was so good. It's like the award. You get for best picture of the year. That's an award. Is it a poet's time magazine Pulitzer prize, they could be up for the Pulitzer for the year because you get poets and a lot of different things categories. Tiger Fay's one of the right? Yeah. Like, the sports photography Pulitzer prize of the year that could be up there up there. If there's if there's gambling on that throw that in the fucking mix and put Frank on the Pulitzer. That picture moved. You so much you're in on your it on the poll. I remember looking at it on in the car, and I like show, Dave I was like look at this fucking picture. Yeah. The Pulitzer prize for photography. I love it. Oh, yeah. That's our. That's our nomination the foreplay domination. It's early. It's April ninth the four point nine for Pulitzer photo of chino. It could be pulled through season. Yeah. Let's not act like we know when Pulitzer. There's no way it's December thirty first we're acting like it's just like the end of the calendar year. But that my my my choice could very well end on Sunday a change on Sunday. You might see one hundred pictures you like better this weekend. I'm not saying I'm just saying like tiger tiger doing anything on Sunday. Maybe like I'm so ready to see tiger at Augusta. I mean, I'm jacked up about that picture, and I think I may print it out and put it somewhere because I think it's fucking awesome. Symbolize everything that's good about like that place in golfing like where it's going right now. Yup. But fucking Tiger Woods man tiger tiger just like looks good. And some of the pictures received them right now in Augusta. He looks like a different. He looks like he like shaved off ten years of his life. You not like when you get like, Lisa guy surgery. They peel back a year. Like, I. Yeah. I think he did that with the skin just stepping into Augusta. I don't know. What happens? You're right. He loses ten to fifteen years when he arrives skin looks smooth. He's not sweating that much. So how they do that. How they do that. I mean, I understand they make the grass certain green the trees are like they just look more. Majestic than other trees the water. Looks like more perfect than other water water looks and crunch. Tiger Woods looks fifteen years younger than his smile is mortally genuine and soft. He's not like sometimes you see him out there looks like he's struggling this picture with him. And Freddie fist-bump. Looks just looks great. Why does he look so much young as chat? He is Jack. So look we got a lot of tiger stuff to get into. He did I I'll just start with this that he had a quote from their little golf TV thing. They do now where he basically kind of controls all of his own media, which is hilarious and interesting in self, but he had a quote or they asked him what the masters means to him. And he said, it's the best thing that we have in our sports what sinked way to put it. That's just so good. Thank you could talk up everything else. And there are a lot of great things in golf, and we get excited for a lot of different events a lot of different things. But it's the best thing that we have at our most true thing ever said about sports ever, nothing even come close to this. Now, it's just that's just we can't we like you're saying we can try to make it like that. But nothing comes even close nothing. And it's just so sustainable, you said it's the best thing that we have in our sport. So tiger. He arrived on property as well. On sunday. He arrived early this Nick Faldo too. Without a picture and said Tigers the last one on the golf course on Sunday night with like the sun setting that vista at Augusta think he was on the ninth green. And it was basically just him at Augusta. The only person their patrons aren't even allowed yet on Sunday Pulitzer give it to him give it thank he's already moved out pictures. I forgot about it already that picture is. So that picture got me going. I got two years is when I looked at that picture through the way, this that came from an iphone like the way that the sun was coming into the phone like that. And he was just out there just chipping or putting whatever hell he was doing. He was floating. That's what he was doing. He was floating on the Greek translate it out right now. I don't certain it capturing that too is like I'm also I love the the thought of like, sir. Nick, walk in kind of its like, the ninth and eighteenth greens at Augusta National and kind of big goofy self Walker out in like looking over to his left to be like, oh, there's talk. Kids. It out tweets it out all-time photo got the juices going. And then a couple of other picks arrive that damning Augusta even wrote. They wrote a little a little article about tiger being being at Augusta on Sunday. I don't remember him typically arriving that early. So they kind of they wrote a little article and in that they described how tiger. Like he walked he played the front nine they said, but rather than walk to the I hit driver he walked to the I t with only a wedge juggling has golf ball in the air and just kinda shooting this shitty. Went over to Kimber. He ran into. But he he like daft up a guy and like signed a couple of things for another guy in the field. And then he walked to the green and just did a bunch of chip him. And he walked the front nine it. Just kind of chipped around on each Crete hit bunker shots. I saw one pick a classic Augusta. Pick of from like face on of tiger on a bunker him hitting a bunker shot with a sans splashing up in the air. And I was just like it's we're here. It's masters week. Did you see his bag? Oh, his bag your bag. I gotta pull up your juice. It. I saw is got every year that he that he wants stamped on the bottom her fixedly stitch on the bottom of his unreal monster. But Affleck's that as a new bag this week? He says fucking a it's just so exciting. How about like the fact that we're going to get to watch. This guy play healthy coming off a win that wasn't that long ago. I don't feel like a long time because he hasn't played that well this year. He also hasn't had that many bad finishes this year. He wasn't that far off from winning the WDC match a couple of weeks ago when kids ended up winning is like I think he's number twelve right player in the world are guy Brandel Chamblee. I heard him on golf channel the last couple of days. He said I think when Sergio one of the masters Sergio was the twelfth ranked player in the world a couple years ago. And then somebody else recently was number was number twelve right player in the world when they want somebody else in the last five or six years. Excuse me. So he's like right in that sweet spot, very very realistic that he could win he will be rocking. The mock turtlenecks all week, the mock neck thing shirts that he's got an I'm talking about. How do we feel about those things? I don't have if we're being upfront about it. She give me a collared shirt tire. Yeah. I don't love simple. I don't love them. But I kind of like like the way looks at him. He looks great. It is true. Somebody sent in from the gallery. Basically be like look we get that. Tiger rock. Some tire looks good in everything on the golf course. But like do they sell any of these things when he wears them? Like, they'd be way better served to just do like collard golf shirts if you're Nike. No. Yeah. I feel like I've never see you just don't see people rocking. The he's the only person that looks. I mean, if you roll up to the t. God. A red tiger mock neck Nike shirt on. So I was looking to you better. Be you either need to be like the funniest person. I've ever. And just like, no, I'm the biggest hired island world where you need to be shooting sixty five out there. I would feel like they haven't sold one of the. Not a single one. I just thought it imagine that if I pulled up to the range, and I saw a couple of guys and they're talking to mock next on the Rangers fucking hacking it up left and right hitting huge slices over the over the ranger net. You can't do it looking at this picture. A he looked so good in them. It's so I cannot wait. I think he looks better in that right one. Then he does like ever like there's the picture of him celebrating in it. He fills that shirt out. So well, look that read one is off the charts. How'd you like we're not going on him right there? Fucking fist pump in in this picture. We're looking in was mocked is mock shirt. Yes, I agree. That's unreal. Now, imagine Joe schmo in the driving range and that same exact get up on Joe schmo can get away with a red polo can't get away with a red mock neck, you have you have to have Tigers body, and you have to have Tigers folk and skill to be able to wear that thing. Right. And that's there's really only one person seems tiger will in the history of the world that has that. So it's going to be really really cool. We'll gray of golf channel tweet it out it appears tiger already in game OJT after nine whole session with tiger. And Freddie said quote tiger probably isn't as I'm not trying to be mean. But isn't as helpful as I would say FREDDY at this point. He just doesn't quite give as much information good keeping those cards. Good like that love everything about that. It has master's week. It's Tiger Woods. I love this quote from Nike or the like they're asked if any other Nike athletes will Rockies and everything we do is for tiger. It's just for him. They said that. Yep. Oh, it's magnificent. So he's actually makes me think that he just likes the feel of him, and he just wants to wear like you're saying like, obviously. Obviously, they his call. Oh, yeah. And it has nothing to do with sales has nothing to do with like college. He's just a single one of these things are comfortable ship. Tiger likes the way they feel. So he wears your occurred sales on those are zero. Yeah. I know. I look awesome. Awesome. What's it going navy? He's going eighty. Obvi- season of Frankie's doing scripting season. A bet he's wearing route on Sunday. That's a big thing. That's that's I'm we're making fun of it. Now what you're doing? I was gonna do it. You know, we're we're living making funny. Do you want to still do it? I was going to do it. You're gonna list the colors of shirt. Say and we all know his Sunday. Do do it. Now you wanna do? It's two thirty two in the morning to do. It is wearing navy k all right? He's going with the light grace on Friday. That's nice looks exam with a little hot pink. No light pink on Saturday. He always wearing Sunday. What talbot? It's we're blood bread home on blood. He's out for blood. Wow. Now. The only reason I brought that was not to get mocked by to fucking ASA Locke. Nice as a mock neck pain. Tally. Circumvent that five weeks in a row ESO on fire with his punts. No way, not at all. You know? I was gonna say when he mocks this shit up. His I think the pink may be the best look of the fucking week. I think is good t-. Just he is a mock guys a mock neck guy, but nobody else is kind of the problem, and what's weird to me? But anyways masters tiger masters. He's going to be playing. We're going to watch him play competitive round at Augusta on Thursday. It's gonna be really really cool get excited. Warm weather season is here. And luckily, Tommy, John the most comfortable underwear on the planet. The only underwear in our drawers at this point. We sort of had to we've just evolved. We I like, wow, we would bear Tommy John. They're the best. Then you're like all right now, we're like half. Halftime john. Now are at the point where the only thing that we wear stop John yet. I'm talking about Tommy John, even when it's not on the podcast and during like reads, I'm I actually advocated for time John during my Vegas trip. When one of our co workers, Paul gazillion. Zones goes Otsuki. How did you say his last name ski goes Inskeep? What a nightmare that goals ski. Well, you really grind it through the only the only thing bigger nightmare than that. Is the way. It's spelled. Yeah. And the only thing a bigger nightmare than that is the way he wears his loose fitting underwear around like hotel rooms and makes them look like an alien. And I literally said we gotta get this guy from Tommy John's they support the brand they support the pot. How do this guy not walking around and Tommy John's book at him, look like a human being once in your life? How is anybody not like walk through out and soccer crazy? What is the point? I don't and they're so easy to pack to because they're nice thin quality when I get so I got now I dropped my clothes off at a wash full. It's like one of the biggest luxuries I've ever had to do in my entire life. But for some reason, the guy can fold ten thousand pounds a laundry into a little box. I don't know how he does it. And it's like a nice. But when he the way he folded timing jazz. I take them, and I put them right in my fucking in my I suitcase full fits in the smallest little container. It's crazy. I bet I haven't played around. Golf without a bear. Tommy John and over a year. God it's so perfect. Both Tommy John, men's and women's underwear sport. A no wedgie guarantee. That's nice comfortable. Stay put waistbands and range of fabrics that are luxuriously soft and designed to move with you. That's just incredibly true Tommy John associated you're going to love the fit and feel that it's all backed by their best Perio everywhere. Or it's free guarantee means you don't love your first pair, you'll get a full refund at Tommy John no adjustment needed. Just hurry to Tommy John dot com slash four right now. That's Tommy John dot com slash four unit. Twenty percent off your first order. Tommy, John dot com slash four twenty percent off. That's Tommy John dot com slash four. Let's go through kind of some of the rest of the field. There's so many names, I was going through all this people. Keep asking me where Minnesota Minneapolis all week every person I saw do you like this week? It's tough. It's really really difficult. Rory is the odds on favourite as should be. He's been playing on believable golf. He should have won the master's a couple times already. It's the only major championship. He doesn't have. If he does win. He would become just the six player of all time to win the career grand slam. We were going through it. I believe it's Gene Sarazen, Ben Hogan, art, good close, personal friend, Mr. Gary Player, Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods magic being helluva group. That's a group. That's a serious. You know, you did something good. When you're in that group. Yo. Yeah. He won the Players Championship about a month ago played lights out if you recall, I don't know if you've played lights out he kind of he really didn't feel like even had his game. And he won the base of the year. That's far. He is last starts here. Here's his here's his finishes tie. For fourth tied for fifth tied for fourth second tied for sixth. I tied for ninth. That's how he's doing. His last five masters tournaments tied for eighth fourth tied for tenth tied for seventh tied for fifth Faulk the guy playing that. Well with that good of a track. Record at Augusta National who most people believes AAC aim is better than anybody else's game on planet earth coming off a massive win of the Players Championship coming off playing really well at in Austin and just losing the Tiger Woods in the classic battle. Who's probably greatest golfer of all time. Definitely is a great call from old time. It's hard not to have missed the favorite so Rory. It's gonna be fun to watch him. It's almost a lock I would say that Rory is in one of the final three groups. I would say. I think that's a lock I think it's a lock there's almost no imaginable scenario linked to well to like fall off that that far. He's always going to be in it when he's like right now. He's just on fire. He's a man on fire. He's not like nothing about his game right now will allow him to really blow up and he's a best driver of the golf ball on the planet, and he hits on he loves the high draw. That's the golf shot that you have to be able to hit it Agusan Astro be able to get to every par-five. There's four of them will be able to every par five in two. So it's almost like when you start doing the math you almost. It's almost unimaginable that he's not somewhere between like eight and twelve under going into Sunday, which like at that point. He's gonna be in the final three groups. So again, I it's almost it's almost I can't even fathom a scenario where he's not in the final three groups at least so Rory odds on favourite as it should be go through a couple of other names. We were talking in the Uber ride back from the airport because it's too clock in the morning to thirty six in the morning to thirty. Eighty six. Yep. To threes Brooks CAPCO. Nobody's even mentioned Brooks kept his name guys won. I think three of the last six major championships to one odds that's pretty fucking good odds like twenty five twenty five to one. That's insane. We might have to put some money on that. Yeah. I think we should. I forget that raise. I forget Brooks kept because a person like people all week like when you're thinking of something off the top of your head. Someone comes up to me a cowboy jacks like when we're doing Reiter, you'll break who's your favorite guy? I was thinking of some guys like, I'm rattling off some names. Brooks kept connector once possum ahead. Guys went three of the last six majors. It really makes no sense. But at the same time, I I it's just it's compared to I mean, everyone probably does it now because he so he used to be Borman areas. A camp a lightning rod. But when he was boring. It's like, you know, you when someone asks you does your favorite baseball players. You're like, oh like, you think of all the people that just pop into your head like Aaron judge. You know, Mookie Betts like JD Martinez. Like all these guys that are always there. And then like, oh, yeah. What about Mike trout like that's exactly who Brooks kept gays. Like, you're like, oh, yeah. I forgot about the guy was like the best in the world. Two of the last three major championships that have been played have been won by Brooks capture and three of the last six that he's played in because he missed the masters last year. Remember with the wrist injury. He's one and people again, don't even mention him which. It's like that's kind of his thing that he likes to get really upset. And he also ended up creating a whole camp around the fact that he doesn't raise in the camp doesn't get it. It's Cam forgot about that. So Brooks cap goes up. There doesn't Johnson feels like DJ your member two years ago. DJ at one I believe three starts in a row and was considered a lock to win the masters before the stairs incident. Yeah. Remember the stairs incident. How crazy that while slipper socks? Yeah. When yeah, never totally got an answer. All the DM's. We got eight thousand different theories about what happened every every person on planet earth. That was involved in dozen Johnson's fall, according to our dams we got so the same story that all of you out there. I'm sure you've heard. Yup. About what happened with dozen Johnson and the stairs and involving maybe another golfer, and maybe some females and use you could then substitute in every golfer in the world, right for like the other person that was involved and people said that like I heard I know it was this. I have really good sources that it was this guy. Who did this in that in this in reality? No, one knows a hop and the end of the day. I'm pretty sure he just like fell out as Ayers. Yeah. This one I have now come around to where he was just telling the truth. And there was nothing crazy going on. He just happened to fall. And you give the the reason people like that's not real. It was like rainy that Wednesday. I remember that got rained out. Our first time in Augusta got rained out. And then the the most convincing thing that I saw was some Stewart like, hey, my body was renting the house that doesn't Johnson data this past week. Here. The stairs. And it was like a two or three stare spout in the middle of the house where it was like concrete floors or something like kind of like a little awning or something like that. And and it was like it was just really like it was it was there's a lot of moisture in the just kind of slipped and like messed up his back looking at your phone like if there's he's in the middle of the fucking room. You could easily slip how infuriating does it have to be. If you're dozen Johnson, and you actually did just trip also the lodge shit. That's just you just got to be like, no, I just tripped and fell like you guys are looking too much into it. And. You just you just have no control of the fucking stairs. And then he wasn't in the same F that. Yup. And then he wasn't the same like the rest of the year. He just wasn't as dominant, but he ended up. He was he was like a lock that year to win. So it's kind of just deejays obviously, a big name. He won. What did he win earlier this year? He won. Oh, he won in Mexico that right WDC Mexico where he went up against Rory down the stretch. And so I mean, it's not like he's far off at all in terms of being right there being in the mix having as good a chance anybody else to win the master. What do you think about Kevin Kisner? I know we had on the show and he said he wasn't going to win the tournament. But I feel I feel something deep plums that he might have a chance to look. Yeah. He does draw the ball. Yup. Which you have thrilled draw the ball to gusts national if you're a righty and order to play well there because there's just so many goddamn holes where you have to hit a right the left shot. So that's big. He doesn't have the length. But hopefully if the place plays like decently firm at health. A kiss is a phenomenal putter phenomenal puttering is one of the best putters on planet earth. So that always helps them so he needs it in my opinion. He needs to play difficult. We were looking I was rewatching the speech two thousand sixteen masters, which is the one where he collapsed and the winning score. There was think Danny will it was like five hundred or something kids can win a masters like that same Z j. Yup. When you're blizzard just thinking. Yeah. Z Jay was like one of the only players under par. Yes. That whole week when he laid up all the par fives. And all that. So I think kids need something like that last year when it was you know, when you had Patrick read Rickie Fowler ROY McElroy out there all repentant shooting like fifteen lights out. I don't know that kids can post fifteen hundred Augusta. I think he knows that. But I don't I it's hard him coming off that good of a performance at the at Austin and winning and having that good reports back to back years, and the fact that he's played so consistently. Throughout the year. And it doesn't miss cuts kind of always in the mix in your just stay in the mix at a major championship. You never know. Because of the pressure back night at Augusta all that stuff so kiss. I'm definitely not ruling them out. I don't think he's bad value. He always is. I think he's pretty much always good value because I would agree with that. Right. Because like nobody rates him very highly sixty two one right now is that what he is. Yes. Sixty two one. Yup. See I love him at sixty one. There's no doubt about that. I mean, I sort of obsessed with that with our guide kiss. So I I like his go through a couple of other names. I mean, Justin Thomas people haven't really for whatever reason, I feel like I haven't heard JT name very often, it feels like not that long ago that he at one what five times that two years ago a year and a half ago he won five times in the PGA tour, and then won a couple of times to begin the the the ring around season one the major championship there at quail hollow on the PGA and it felt like nobody in the world could possibly be better than. Justin Thomas that doesn't feel like that long ago. You gotta think he's going to really have some good chances at Augusta over the course of his career. I don't know why this wouldn't be one of those years. Justin, Rose, you remember a couple of months ago on this very podcast. I mentioned that Justin Rose was you may have prediction of some sort. I said that he was my pick to win the masters. I stand by that. I still feel just as confident as I did then you don't get great odds with Justin Rose because he's literally the number one ranked player in the world. But that any looks like one of those cats like he looks like a cat from a cartoon. He does look like a cat. That's that's pretty hard hitting an analyst analysis, but there's one an analyst. Corey three in the morning. There's a cat in Disney like old school cartoon that it looks just like smug little cat. We've done that did that the other day. Lucky definitely looks like a miss on that boat. Like, he doesn't give fuck about you. That's kind of crazy to say because he's the nice. I know you just like his smug. Little cat face. He doesn't smoke little cat face. I can't disagree with you. You can't. I don't think he doesn't have a cat face. Who has look. He's number one right player in the world. Great bet. His last four masters finishes tied for second tied for tenth second tied for twelfth people forget, and I've mentioned on the show before that. If you go rewatch when Sergio won the masters in two thousand seventeen it is incomprehensible as you're watching the beginning of that bag night. And that somehow Justin Rose wouldn't win Astor's. I mean Sergio's up in the damn trees on ten that go through the first part of Amen Corner, fine. But then they get to thirteen Sergio like hooks one left on thirteen then tries to play out of the trees like left of raise creek on thirteen ends up hitting it in the creek takes drop like chips out into up somehow getting up and down for par on thirteen. And then rose MRs like, good birdie putt on thirteen. And then next thing, you know, Sergio eagles fifteen and somehow they go into the playoff any wins the mass. So if you look back at that, Justin Rose. Definitely could have won the masters at that point. And based on those finishes that I just said tied for second time for twelve second tie. I'm sorry stagnant tied for tenth second tied for twelfth. He's right there. And he's number one right player in the world. Jon Rahm member him last year. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. He was in the mix of this thing. And he just he had a player's type episode where he started started to go sideways on them. He started to prove that he was kind of a psychopath. Yeah. We were we were out in front of that. Well, we know we know who you are. We that was our that's ours. Remember temper tantrum. That's our little thing that we came up with the studio here that's hard cook that we cook that up a little gas. Well, yeah, he did know we invented that. He did he L came up to me that yesterday like Kevin Jackson. I love the way you guys out of John Robert being a crazy personally. I try boy. That's right. That's ours. They said that. Oh, yeah. That's great. Now because any invited me to like, colonial the Doug icon to you invite you gave me a card. He's a come to colonial anytime. I'll be tomorrow. Really? Oh, yeah. I didn't know about that got a lot of advice out the Hazeltine actually really wanted to play as Latino while we're out Minneapolis. But it's lows close. Can I give you my sleeper pick? Yes. While you came in with a sleeper pick, I came with this. I mean, I don't know how much of a sleeper pick. It is twenty five to one shot. All right. It's not only his name is Tommy Fleetwood. Okay. It's not really much of a sleeper pick. But I would not want people talking about him, you know, in last year he finished he seventeen but recently, he's been playing golf like he finished Thai tea three at Arnold Palmer. And then t five at the players. It didn't really do that great at the WDC, but you know, t three and t five back to back in two massive tournaments and now coming into somewhere where he didn't play that bad. He was four under last year. Pose a sixty six on Saturday like he can play. This course, pretty well. And Tommy Fleetwood fucks Tommy Fleetwood, folks, like if you're gonna put money on someone that's twenty one you might as well put money on a guy that FOX because you know, he staying loose all weekend. And look, I think that's a great choice. I I guess some people might bust your balls are gone at sleeper. But then again, I wouldn't because nobody's talking about one person talking about time not at all. He doesn't he's not gonna get any sleep. Yeah. Once you get to like a hundred to one like a Keegan Bradley Cameron Smith kicking Bradley like sometimes that guy's always in the fuck and mix. He doesn't those terms were key in Bradley a hundred to one throat throw a dollar on a guy. Yeah. For ten bucks to one sees a little come on. I don't hate. I don't hate a dollar on Keith's. I'll go down twenty five to one author ten bucks on key. It's a very good opportunity. VJ Singh hunt five hundred a one what a story that would be this very good opportunity for us gentleman. He he was what was it? The Honda Classic. He was in like the final group hatch. Anyone? Was it? The honda. That Bay Hill. I can't remember one of those four to swing. He was using the foul. But I think it was Honda Classic whatever you've vis fuck. I fucked it up. Never mind. What were you gonna says, they say, whatever you say, whatever UV say j. Yeah. You're reaching reach to forty two forty eight seventeen. I don't hate the you're reaching right now. This is a great time. Great time for us to mention that fan duel. Our good friends at Faneuil. They are running their biggest golf contest ever. Okay. Ever to one million dollars total prize pool is how it works. Fifteen dollar entry. You can enter up to a hundred and fifty times first place gets two hundred thousand dollars. This is where it gets really good gentlemen. If Tiger Woods wins the masters. You get your money back for every entry. Whether you have tiger on your team or not. They're going all in on that what a great contest to run. Yeah. That's like join them because you're all basically rooting for tiger. That's like if you those when those furniture places are like f- like the Red Sox win the World Series will give everybody a freakout nays. And then they just hope to God that. Pop furniture company calls all the employers. Unfortunately, we're out of business. You know, the red Sox's couldn't fucking lose. Damn socks are good friends at fan duel. Here's what you do you go. Sign up and play at fan duel dot com slash foreplay. Okay. Fan duel. That's F A N D U E L dot com slash four play fan duel dot com slash four point fifteen our entry. It's their biggest golf contest ever million dollars total prize pool. First place gets two hundred thousand dollars NF. Tiger Woods wins the masters. You get your money back for every entry. Whether you pick him on your team or not. I don't know what they're thinking or Mandal. I I just did it doesn't even make any sense going to bet on the master's and you're gonna join a fan duel tournament you have to join this on because just in case Tiger Woods wins. You're going to be gassed up about that. Number one. Number two. You wanna be a part of something in which Tiger Woods win. Number three. You get your money back. Even if you don't pick them, it's pretty nuts. So we were get on the Uber back where you're kind of going through. We're looking at the Rosser these fan duel, though, David fancy stuff the fan will it's incredibly fun to do. You get sick spots. You could. Sixty thousand dollar budget salary and you go through our guy. Now, we're we're kind of looking at different players trying to figure out good value. You know, you're always there's always a lot of different ways to play these types of things. That's that's what makes it fun. It's like you trying to pick. Like, oh, I wanna pick the guy that nobody else is going to pick. So we went through each picked out a guy that we've like. I picked Bubba Watson. Bubba Watson's at ten thousand two hundred dollar pick the reason I like him as because bubble authors won the master's twice and feel like nobody's gonna take. But Watson number one. They don't like him in number two. He just he just gets passed up people just pass by watts. They just don't think about Bubba Watson. He's a lefty lefties dominated at Augusta. You consider the numbers of how many left he's there are out there ever since Mike. We are one fills one three times bubbas one twice left is dominant out there. Bubba won a couple times on tour last year you won like three times and toward last year. So it's not that far off my guy ten thousand dollars or ten thousand two hundred dollars sour hit. Bubba Watson Trent daddy. Zach johnson. Why you know, he's just seems like a good guy from great place right up upbringing one here. Yeah. Great upbringing. He's one there before back in two thousand seven I watched my uncle Jack cry when he welcomed jet cry. Yeah. He cried when Zach when the masters, which was a a very emotional time for our family is nine. Thousand bucks seems like a good good bet. And like we talked a little bit earlier is Johnson the mix at Augusta then so is Kevin Kisner. And that's that's all good. So one another thing I'm obsessed with on the on the fan doa is their stats are just off the charts. When you click on these guys, and I just clicked on kiss. And it's a nice throwback to you can just click on game. Log in. It's such a nice throwback to all his finishes t twenty four t twenty two t twenty three t twenty seven twenty eight t twenty six and then there's a I I just felt good to be alive during that streak, balancing, my grandkids on my need Salam about that streak. No doubt about his stats on. This thing are awesome. I didn't realize you could do that. Oh on that. Really? Really cool. Frankie who's your guy? I'm going. Phil mickelson. Wow. Ten thousand five hundred. I mean, how can you not pick Phil at Augusta and fill one pebble earlier. That's right. So fills like playing good golf. He's mixing it up on Twitter with us like he's going crazy is getting good stories fills just like in my brain Phyllis. Accepted my brain. And I wouldn't be surprised if like, you know, I'm just fills just been in the mix like on and off the golf course. I wouldn't be surprised if he's putting on the green jacket fill as a guy who when there's good stories about him out there. He's plays better. I actually like just messed around, and I put together an unbelievable. I know did you filled the whole thing out perfectly all money all money used you wanna give away some of your picks. I'll give away my whole thing. Give it through that. Not smart. Yeah. Do it. Dustin Johnson, pretty good. Now. This is all within like, they're allowing me to pick this which I actually think is like unfair. I'll absolutely joining us. And if tiger wins, right? So dozen Johnson Tiger Woods because I can't pick tags. I don't care. I'm not going to be part of something where it's like if I don't pick him like I'm gonna pick. Tiger woods. I agree. I've been doing that and gambling and golfer year and a half now. So I'm still under the budget. I picked us in Johnson. Tiger Woods to the best players in the world. I'm going to throw in Phil Mickelson there. I'm now down to best golfers in the world are on my thing. You know, who's fourth who Tony fee now guys finish Colby single tournaments ever played in. You don't think this guy's ready to play the gusts? Now, I thought you're gonna say ROY macaroni the pace you've been going. No. But I like four unbelievable. Golfers on my ankle last year. I know who's fifth who's your glue guys. You can't throw this guy out at Augusta. Who do you think it is? I Fred Couples. Yes. Seven years, and you can't throw the. This guy. Seven thousand eight hundred dollars value to. Put pretty couples in this thing where you already have dozen Johnson. You already have Tiger Woods. You already. Have. Phil Mickelson Freddie, Couples you have to call. But you're losing it out with Kevin Kisner eight thousand seven hundred dollars. I may have the best this lineup for master Sunday or messes we that you could ever possibly imagine ever. I don't see one thing. That's law. There's not one flaw. I have it all covered. I have the old guy Freddie, Couples who've just floats at Augusta. Tiger Woods was literally a fucking ghost there. And he can just do whatever. He wants doesn't Johnson. We'd just talked about Kevin Kisner draws the ball. Like, you said Phil Mickelson's fucking God. I mean, just kidding me. I just figured it out cracked the code fan duel, check Faneuil dot com slash four. Boy, go get yourself in the Mexican all the terms all that out the entry. So you guys got to start. You guys got to do it like immediately. Right. Because what I'm seeing is like at some point like, you just can't get it. There's a there's a there's a little like there's a limit. There's a limit capacity is there's a there's a number of entries and then a dash. And then there's another number. I gotta be honest. I don't see that on my little list here. But if that's the case, you know, regardless go get yourself involved fan duel, very fun Frank who's obsessed ready. Unbelievable. You know, it feels great paying off high interest credit cards getting lower rate, and saving money were all real world adults. Now, we have realized this beyond belief. Thank god. For light stream. We don't know anything about financing on anything about consolidation. Getting yourself into a better financial situation paying things off at a lower rate. None of that nine climbing, he's consolidation. My my head. I don't understand anything about money. We don't speak that language. I just read something that is Dan bowl is building an eleven billion dollar airport. Like, you think I know anything about money? I when I saw that number eleven billion eleven million could probably cover exactly eleven billion eleven billion dollar airport. What doesn't make any sense at a space station. I mean, this is why we need to be able to figure out like what money can buy you. What can money do like what? How can I make my money work for me because it's damn Bill is making that money work. This Timbo has eleven billion dollars. They're going to have they're going to comedy two hundred million. Passengers a year. These are numbers that don't that. Don't make any sense. I just there flying spaceships in and out of that thing. No, it's insane. But they're making their money work there. 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For more information. Couple other little nuggets of information. I want to talk about the first of all Charlie Hoffman, guaranteed to be wearing a green glove and be in the lead on Thursday, though. Data value that's a lock right? Yep. Everybody just knows talk to other. We said like Tigers needs to like stay with the pace because there is going to be that guy that just jumps out that Li like you look at the leaderboard of Tigers like two hundred three under on the first day and like all right. Someone seven hundred who the hell is ash Arledge Charlie who it is. It is. And you never get nervous ever his over under on Thursday at Augusta has to be like sixty seven. Yeah, he's always like smiling. Like this guy. How is this guy in athlete like how is this guy professional athlete member? Couple of years ago. We were legit upset on Friday. He was at like ten under. We like it's gonna win this by like ten shots. Yeah. And then he and then we came back to earth. Like, there's no chance who are like. Who are like we Charley Hoffman is so much. Charlie Hoffman that we knew even give him a chance when he was ten under though, we didn't. And we were right. And I like Charlie the seagull call them to see way we read on the show. Yeah. Great guy was Kisner. Kevin Chappell and Charley Hoffman all on the same in the same little little group at that. We're at thirty rock we're at thirty rock right over weird office building. Yeah. Get ready for the President's Cup. And they were like, oh, yeah. We call Charlie. The seagull Gua flies over and shits on everyone. Great, great nickname. So Charlie Offman, great guy. But he I mean, he's just a lock to be leading lashes on Thursday, and then then really collapse. And then another bet that I think is a is a lock is Trevor element to miss the cut. Wow. I don't want to be mean. Yeah. Why look Trevor element? What did he do nothing? He's just on. You know, he's on the golf channel coverage of the east grade on their he's gotten that. Nice little like South African kind of looked to him in and and a little accent to him. He's great every time the show him on the coverage at Augusta a feel like it can never get it out of my brain every time they pan to him. He's like nine over every time since he won. It looks like his last tournament. He was at the Corrales Punta Cana resort and club championship cut. It's not me trying to be mean, it's I see him out there grinding cut tune the gall. Here's I think it was two thousand eight here's two thousand eight champion Trevor element does a lot in the in the Gulf media now and they'd put this score up there. It's always like plus eight. I'm like, Jack, you not to show tonight. You're gonna make some money off of it. I just think that if if you could find I'm with you if your books got it out there. Trevor element will miss the cut I'm gonna fascist my my prediction is hammer that Trevor element miscut. I like it. I'm all in on that. Thank you. Thank you. Couple of other things. I'd like to point out. I mentioned early hours rewatching speaks to our sixteen collapsed spate. Oh, yeah. Joined spin spin spin, Jordan or someone where were we when someone said Spaeth like on our was unbelievable. It was early one of the groups that we were around. She's like, oh, yeah. It's like Jordan spat, and it was like what? We legit. We get right talk about the magic goes like Jordan Smith realize are you fucking me. We're going to need you to explain where you heard that. How and why? Through its bad. I was watching the funny story actually, my dad reads audio books for companies. Let him doing you one night. He sits faith Hugh's this book. It was a book where had Tiger Woods is face on it. And we're like dad what's the name of that book that you're reading on the audio book where you talk about Jordan spe? He's like, well, Honey, I can't remember the damn name in his book, but ahead Tiger Woods face. All in the front of it. What the hell was the name of that book? Look, you guys talk about this book on the show all the time had item find this book, you guys cute. Tell me the name of the name of the book is the person that it's about with the face. I think it was. I think the name was just Tiger Woods Tiger Woods today. Oh, the book is called. Yeah. Tiger. Tiger woods. Like, our podcast, new golf. Their book is called Tiger Woods. We brought that up again this weekend. Biggest misery ever someone's going to steal from us. And where he can be like, they are genius. Not just naming our podcast golf. Guys. Listen to all and it can't be taken yet. I get furious. Every time we talk about this. Because it's such a good idea to hear what they're saying on golf golf. We keep getting emails every outlets picking up our fucking story with what's what's his name Jayco? Yeah. Like another like, I think we're at like seven hundred million. I think we're close to Bill. It's the Jay go and thing is crazy now impressions work. But we've only billion number of me. I mean, I mean, she's getting those two hundred million. They're very nice emails and a very special emails, but what's an impression does that mean? Like you go. Oh. Those guys men impression on me. I picture a guy like. Nice scrolling through like us, weekly and CNN. He like he pondered back puts his leg across it. And he goes. Another way there's seven hundred. It goes up for he goes, oh that is one hundred million. I think oh is the definition of an impression. Yeah. So we have seven hundred million of them. Yeah. Of the manager said golf golf story. Story on a quote from golf. Amazing story of Phil Mickelson on golf. Now. They would say from the Gulf podcast from golf podcast from this gal from the Gulf podcast. From the Gulf Cup. But it's the Gulf the Gulf on guess about gum, which I'm a huge fan of golf. What's what's golf podcast? You like literally. Hey, yeah. Like, thanks, man. Compliment to the podcast and indirectly. But all mad love golf off. Do don't say that. She's a little podcast, we do huge golf, and oh, really, thanks, man. How long have you? Listen in amazing. Missed opportunity guys right now with our name when people say it's like a little dicey. I'll love four play. You have with them. With much fun. We could have with that. And social media amazing every person if if I was just type in getting celebrities says like I'm obsessed with golf we just quote, we spoke to someone insane with the amount of time and saying golf Kaz someone's someone's fucking turning off a street like the way you said a hate it. He says shooter got this Cal. I said that we're Gulf like eighteen times in the last two minutes. Yeah, you're shooting mcgavin Gulf in our pockets was named Gulf be we wouldn't be gal with. So I was watching the two thousand sixteen collapse of Jordan, speak Spanish and the announcers when he hits the ball in the water on twelve I've never seen anything like this before the announcers fouled. Oh in Nance. They literally they just don't say anything, really. He's like 'cause it's crazy because he goes refined shot lead. He bogies ten he bogies eleven and then he steps up on twelve and he's got like a one shot lead at the time to any. Will it just like made some birdies gets like four? Or under speeds of five hundred and he steps up, and he just hits his white horrible shot. Barely lands on the ground kicks. Right back into Ray's creek. And they do the thing they zoom in on the ripples in the water. Oh, yeah. And then they just lingers there for like, five seconds. And then they're just like all right over the Westwood on. I honestly, I think I think Faldo maybe goes. Wow. There's like that. Like that just like cut over to somebody else. It's crazy. And then when they cut back to them any flubs, the chip a little wet shot at the water again, they just like. Feels like this is going all side. Understatement. Nobody knows what to say. There's someone in the because there's Disney truck, which I don't even know Jim Nance and father even get like told what to say at this point. Right. Like, there's no way of producer like tells him like what do I feel like Jim Nance runs that operation? He like knows where to go. But like the way you described that and watching it's like, I wonder if there was a panic in the Trump some of their in there like we're gonna need you cut away or like or like, it's it's almost like a like a car crash like next like was camera. Six ready? We gotta we gotta get off this. It was stunning. I can't just -pected them to put it all into context. I expected fouled. It'll be. Wow. It's in the water. There is going to be at least a shot. Dramatics is what's happening is dramatic. They didn't say a fucking word. It was awesome. That might be. It was incredible. I was stunned silent. I was so impressed in the cut away. Like laugh, L out phony. I I was sitting in my hotel room and apples, my weird like boozy hotel room, and I laughed out loud. I was like. They're not going to say anything, they just cut. Then there are Westwood. He's got about twenty feet. I'm like we meet Westwood an important word in the history of the match balls in the fucking creek. Right now. It was incredible another comment from a player or a fan. Sorry placement. Who sends on the in? He was watching the tiger ninety seven masters. He said he couldn't get over watching tire hit pitching wedge into all the par fives in thorough dominating. The course really made him realize how they had to tiger proof. It. I have watched that before too. And it is laugh out loud. Funny like tiger legit on like fifteen on to either leave like he has like a wedge into the whole same. Unlike eleven like eleven like a five hundred thirty yard par five. Now where you watch these guys feel like Caja choice always hitting like three would into eleven saying with Kisner kisses up there hitting like three iron into eleven. When you go have footage from Niger ninety seven Tigers down there. He's like almost Dow by the T on twelve off off his we're roping agreed every time. It's outrageous is a great time of year when you're bored at night. You got nothing else going on your board or the office in the golf hasn't started yet on Tuesday on Wednesday to throw on some of these some of these old school. And also, I was I threw on the nineteen sixty eight masters, and I gotta tell you. They don't have any graphics really the technology's not there what they have is. They have a guy when they're playing the eighteenth hole. They have a guy in the booth and in front of him. He has a model of eighteen in front of them. Okay. And he's moving pieces like it's a fucking show your face. It's all time. It was one of the best things are seen. They cut to these like so like Fuzzy's hours ball hit this tree. He's literally got like a little stick in his hands. And he's like ricocheted over here. Daddy. Dad monopoly visas. It was awesome. The model. It was like a model whenever they have like a model of like a new building. They're going to build right that style and size of a model except he's just sitting in front of like poker poking around where the ball's going. It was awesome. That sounds like it was twenty thousand years ago. It was better than the stuff. We have that. Lanes flying at that point. Right. How how how is that possible? Yeah. That's that's of their it was sixty eight sixty eight masters. My dad was like that was already nine early. Like how is that? I feel like that. Like, you're saying I feel like that was in the stone age. It was something I know people closest to me we're already like growing up at that point. Look, you gotta watch this. If you ever get a chance go put on the nineteen sixty s going to wash that especially when they get to advance in the world that much since nineteen. I think it's accelerated certainly in the last twenty in the graphics now are absurd all off the charts. There's feels like there's nothing they can't do. Now. Another thing. I've really noticed. It's really funny like in like the two thousand five masters when you watch those they all there that we do the drone shots for now. They have like literally helicopters flying with the cameras, and which is crazy to think about how easy like I can just go out there the DRO now and get better footage, and they were able to get ten years ago. And they've got your telecasts when they turn the corner on thirteen based on how the shadows work. You can just see the shadow of the helicopter, and you're like, oh, they're just doing this with helicopter and a camera takes it might take. Sometimes if they just don't like fly perfectly get like the right shot. I hate helicopter of loophole way around that helicopter. Wow. How big of a pain? Hang up. So I got so sick and the helicopter. That's right, hour and a half. Just mentally taught told myself not to throw we had another really good submission from guy believe it was from the gallery. Now, the whole I want to play something the whole point of this is that he said everybody always talks about the go-to masters theme song. But he said nobody ever talks about the one. That's like the hype train one. You're gonna know. Exactly. I'm talking about when I play this. Oh, yeah. So they always play this one on love doesn't get enough. Love like, they cut back from the break. Then the cameras like panning over like raise creek with like the rocks like coming into into frame, and that's going and then put the leaderboard up and you're like ready to run through a fucking wall. Yeah. Yeah. No. That's great. That's great submission. I hadn't heard that. I'd like thought about that in a really long time. Now, I'm gonna look for that during the coverage that's an incredible submission. And then a couple of other things I want to mention one I cannot wait for Thursday when you put on the aiming corner live feed, and then you sit there, and you and and it it doesn't have anything on the screen all morning long and then out of nowhere like flashes into reality. And like Ernie Els comes walking down. I guess he won't be in. But it's like K J Choi comes walking down the eleventh fairway like the first one to play Amen Corner. It's just amazing awesome. It's the best feeling in the world. Like, I'm going to actually get to watch these guys play in corner address sitting around. After talking about it here in everyone conjecture about this about that the wind. How's it gonna play what an iconic stretch you finally get end in you have to sit there for the first three hours a day because they don't do split tees at Augusta image off a one. So you have to sit there for three hours. Somebody finally comes through the corner. And then the last thing I wanted to mention is just how depressing the Arba see heritage coverage is next week. I mean, what is that? The shots fired. We're talking harbor towns. Like a sick off course on the coast Hilton Head. It's awesome. And when when you turn on your so hungry for golf after having masters week, and how awesome it was in the last real golf you guys battle down the stretch on Sunday through Amen Corner through thirteen and fifteen at Augusta and play like sixty seventeen eighteen trying to win the masters. It's like the biggest thing in golf, and then you turn on PGA tour live coverage you got like Kucher playing to at like harbored down. We bring you today every fucking sucks. Is true. It's it's tough. It's tough for the obviously heritage it's tough. It's a tough break. Nobody's it's like you'd rather be any tournament on the planet and the tournament comes right after Gusta. So I just wanted to mention that look it's masters week. It's a very exciting time to be alive. It's now three ten in the morning. Oh, yeah. It is for the boys. I'm just staring at my fingers. We've been traveled all day Frankie's Louisa playing with his fingers at this point trying to stay awake. We did a podcast. Hey, hey, we did all pretty good Puckett podcasts. Oh in real quick shot that little kid. That's swung. John daly. Oh trip. And putt kid was awesome. Unreal. Gonna have to get us back. Check out though in like five or six years because that things aren't gonna stay couple. Tweeter said, we had to get that kid spinal surgery. I mean, I never seen this only like that my entire life. And I think he held the club with like a baseball grip, which was unreal. No. It was amazing watching him come through like I think I don't think I've ever seen such good transfer of the weight in my entire life in this video the slow. Mo was awesome. You know? It's amazing Frank watching those little kids chip. Yeah. All right. Is this done? Now. I'm not being me. I'm saying like if I say Frank though, like, why did you talk to me about that you and I were talking about the drive Jake looking at this. There's someone in officer. Oh, wow. Those like when you when you see a dog, do you look at the dog, you're looking at a ghost. In a gig. Jake absolutely saw goes we're getting to the point. We're talking about ghosts. Not chipping is nice the way that trip. I think I'm going to buy that orange whip thing have to. Yeah. Because I think sick that was the Mississippi State guys hub, but not the actual club. Right. They like that that company because I saw Kisner I think has one in his bag that was hitting tagged. Kisner has the orange whip club in his bag right now at Augusta, but the Wedgwood so much better than like dash full club. Because like, then you change your whole swing on the change my regular swing. I've seen like learn tempo with my which so I want to get that. And then there's this little plank of wood. If anyone Ernie someone's like, all you need is two things of wood. And you go to like screw together. If you think I'm fucking going out and making something you're insane. How long it took me we talked about this fucking months ago, but to make my my my TV dresser. And I ended up building it backwards, and then I just had to come and pay to build a new way. Yup. I had to buy a new one just having the guy the guy came into my room, Saul one. Built already like incorrectly. And then just built a new one. So there was two dressers in my room. He couldn't believe that. He was building one. When there was one sitting right next. So so basically this thing for chipping is like it's just a plank would that? Like if you stand on it, and you put all your weight forward you lean forward. And then it helps you, but if you basically just shows you which leaning when you swing I need that if someone has that send it to us find at our address and send one to me because I need one. I'm not gonna make it or jumping around a little bit here, but I had to get these names in 'cause we even mention these names, which is crazy to think about Ricky Fowler finished second last year as a Ricky shot for not mentioning him. Force before that was stretching. Well, we we should have earned. Jason day speaking price, Andy Shambo, our guy. I actually bet money on Bryson's showed a win. I got insider information about deal Francesco Molinari who's been on the best player in the world of feels for like the last year. No, he's not shock me in the least to see him went awesome to watch him win. It'd be great. What man we just dinner? He's so likable now. Me. Oh, his dinner be the best dinner. He could himself. He'd literally serve it Chevy's he'd walk in, and he'd he'd burst open the doors. And then all of a sudden a million many like waiters would run on und- under both arms and they'd all have hot plates, and they drop it, and he busy Depeche, and everyone meetings Zuber Depeche, and you know, they get in some of your dog. Asser patches. Pitch zoo. I mean, what Zucca Pesca like I'm not gonna say like an asshole. Like the super Depeche. Yeah. You're putting like a little it's a it's. It's a it's a soup. It's a seafood mixed to seafood. You know, you get like pieces of lobster in there. You can get muscles and pasta and sue NFL saw Alicia. It's it's a it's a super Dipesh. It's not like Zepa douchebag you force out one. It is three fourteen Jordan's meet nobody said him either. You think he's got no chance that he's got a really good chance actually been saying his name a lot to bath. No. Yeah. No. I think that he I think he's got to go. So do I I think it's going to be in the mix. He hasn't. He hasn't played good golf place. Yeah. He had a weird last week. He when he was in the mix on Saturday shot like forty one thirty two or something crazy like that. Spot. I'm in a weird place. We all are enjoy enjoy masters week. We'll be back, of course on Thursday. As we always are. So we'll be able to talk about the par. Three contest all the live from coverage. All the speculation. The interviews all that's coming up. Enjoy. It will be back. Thursday, hit heart is hard s- three fifteen in the morning.

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We haven't had these jobless claims since 1969

Marketplace Morning Report with David Brancaccio

08:20 min | 1 year ago

We haven't had these jobless claims since 1969

"This. Marketplace podcast is brought to you by equities then premier platform, bringing private markets to the public get access to tech unicorns like Uber. Airbnb and more sign up for free today at equities N dot com slash morning report. This marketplace podcast is brought to you by. Indeed, are you hiring with? Indeed, you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist. Qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today and indeed dot com slash marketplace. That's indeed dot com slash marketplace. Jobless claims dropped to an almost fifty year. Low in Washington, I'm Kimberly Adams in for David Brancaccio. He's out on a sinement. We have some new data out this morning on unemployment the number of people filing for unemployment fell by eight thousand in the first week of April. This is the fourth week of declines and many analysts had expected the number to rise for more on this and other market news. I'm joined by Quincy Crosby chief market strategist for prudential financial. Good morning. Good morning. And so we've got new jobless numbers out this morning down. Again. What do they tell you? Well, the claims are the lowest since nineteen sixty nine suggesting that the employment landscape remains strong, and you know, been concerns about the economy whether it's slowing whether or not we're becoming increasingly week just as we see in Europe in China. The fact is the US. Economy remained solid. Another number out. This morning is the producer price index. It's up to point two percent year over year. It's an important measure of inflation. What's driving that number up? Not actually comes from a big move. A big surge in gasoline prices. Lot of this has to do with all prices in general losing higher. You have a cuts coming out of Saudi Arabia. You've got issues and Libya issues in Venezuela. And overall that is pushing all prices higher Quincy Crosby chief market strategist for prudential financial. Thank you. Thank you very much now Quincy talked about Venezuela and overnight. Embattled Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro finally agreed to allow humanitarian aid into the country. His decision comes as the dire economic situation. There continues to get worse and on top of the ongoing power struggle with self-declared. Interim president one Guido the BBC's Audrey, Tim. Has more in a televised address. Mr. Maduro said an agreement had been reached to alleviate acute food and medicine shortages own quotable. We reached an agreement the international committee of the Red Cross and the Bolivarian government to work together with the UN agencies to bring into Venezuela over support over humanitarian aid that can be ruled while still respecting Venezuela's sovereignty, Mr. Madero previously, refused to accept international assistance, insisting it would be the first step towards US intervention. He denies his country is suffering a humanitarian crisis and blames US sanctions for problems in the economy, including hyperinflation, which the World Bank says will hit an estimated ten million percent this year earlier this year, the president with the help of the military loyal to him blocks and effort from Mr. Guadalupe to bring in aid from Colombia, Brazil and curious out saying too much of it was provided by the US in London. I'm. The BBC's old retained Lynn for marketplace. John in Minneapolis. Minnesota wrote to say how much he enjoys our coverage of the economy and that marketplace helps him make strong arguments and combat misinformation about financial matters to join John in supporting trustworthy, objective journalism. Donate online at marketplace dot ORG. Thanks to all the marketplace. Investors who make our work possible. This marketplace podcast is brought to you by with Sabi. Hot cloud storage, thinking about moving your data storage to the cloud was obvious enterprise. Class cloud storage at one fifth the price of Amazon S three and up to six times faster with no hidden fees for egress or API requests was obvious low cost high speed fully secure storage blows away the competition, including Google and Microsoft disruption starts here. Do the math for yourself and start a free trial. I was Sabi dot com. Gates are open at the Augusta National Golf club for this year's masters tournament. And it's likely that some golf aficionados are going to place a friendly wager or two on the outcomes now while not technically abetting tool. The economist magazine has created a new statistical model that predicts the likely winner of the tournament in real time. It's called eagle for more. I'm joined by Dan Rosenheck, the data editor for the economist. Good morning. Great to be here. Thank you very much. Can you please? Explain what eagle does you? Go is a live updating win probability model for men's major golf tournaments every two minutes it downloads. The most recent scores figures out the probability of each player. Getting each possible score on each hole for the remainder of the tournament. And as it up to see what players chance of victory is at every point. So this sort of software has been around for baseball for a while. If you think about moneyball, for example, why do you think it's less? Popular in golf hard to say because golf is actually maybe an even easier or more amenable sport statistical modeling than baseball is my guess is that it's because it's an individual sport. So whereas in baseball, you have teams that have a financial interest in squeezing out every drop of efficiency like Billy Beane moneyball, whereas in golf, it's every man for himself so eagle is free. And I imagine that some people might use it to make bets during the tournament. Lots of states are starting to legalize sports betting. Do you think were soon going to see sort of an arms race for consumer grade betting models? Maybe four fi I do. I think that there's already if you look at fantasy sports there is a very wide range of for profit services out there that aim to help you win your fantasy league or daily fantasy sports. Probably the biggest effect that legalize sports betting. We'll have is. It'll just open the floodgates in terms of liquidity and accessible. Ability and make it possible to get down vastly more money on these kinds of events. So as a result of that, I think it'll wind up being more like financial markets, and just as, you know, a lot of what you see on Wall Street is, you know, the war of algorithm versus algorithm, a similar dystopia may await sports bettors in the future. So who does the computer think will win the masters? The most likely player to win is Dustin Johnson at around an eight percent chance of victory next two favorites are Justin Rose and Rory mcilroy. You mentioned that this is for men's golf is there any plan to do similar program for women's golf. We've started on the tournaments that had they richest available historical data, which was men's major golf tournaments for which we have every hole going back to the millennium. We are looking to expand both to non major events on the men's tours and the LBJ as well. All right. Dan, Rosenheck is the data editor for communist magazine. Thank you so much. 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At Home with Trevor Immelman

The Golf Podcast

38:59 min | 7 months ago

At Home with Trevor Immelman

"Now on the it's Mattie in the caddy here's Matt Berry and Michael Collins. I welcome back to another episode of Mattie and the CADDY. It's been a busy busy week in a New Jersey. Week in golf world so we have two special podcast for you this week on Mattie and academy. The first one was taped on Monday night. The caddy Michael Collins Governors. Espn DOT COM colleague. Bob Herrod on all of the changes in news going onto the golf world with the major championships. So this one that you're listening to now. We'VE GOT TREVOR IMMELMAN. Masters Champ in two thousand twenty one president's Cup captain joining us but if you want to break down. All of the news white happened how it happened and out impacted the calendar be sure to glow back and download the Bod Heresy Michael Collins episode. But now we get the player reaction Trevor. Immelman by promised one of the things that I know. Trevor Immelman has longed for his live. He's got the green jacket which would be good enough for just about anybody. But his true passion in life is making everyone. Call Him captain and now we can call you captain. Twenty twenty one captain the President's Cup team. Congratulations on that news loving. Yeah Hey hey guys I know it's so awesome. I'm extremely humbled By this news Something I'm so excited about. It's been so much fun to be a part of the previous Presidents Cup You know as part of Ernie's leadership team now that I get a crack at it It's something that I can't wait for okay. So now that you're tapped into the president's once they named you captain of the President's Cup. There's that moment of yes. This is awesome. When did the moment of Oh blank would I just get myself into hit? Yeah and you're right. That moment has happened already. Particularly because you realize You know the record in this competition is pretty one sided and I have a very clear understanding of how great the American team is and how strong they are not only on paper but on the golf course as well and we've got a huge mountain declined but Mike. I'm excited from a standpoint. The way that our team found a way to come together down in Australia. They really were up to the challenge. They had great leadership under earning. And I think that even though we lost on that Sunday We had a sniff of it. It was something that a lot of players on our team hadn't had before and so I think that gays and just that little tich of self belief that hey we can put ourselves in this situation and And see where the chips may fall And so there's a little bit of self belief there and it'll be up to me and and the rest of the guys helping me out to try and find a way to get these guys to to Take it into even another gear trevor. I love kind of the juxtaposition between the mental aspects. Between the two sides we would say as Americans in the Ryder Cup European team mentally as the edge of the Americans is not even close and then yet on this side. You're talking about how the record of the president's cop favors United States as someone who is in the international world of Golf. How would you describe the difference between the two in that? There's such an advantage on one side in the Ryder Cup in the advantage on the other side with the President's cup. Yeah the sure is. It is quite interesting. And I think it comes down to T- Chemistry and Camaraderie and when you look at the European team it's very hard to really find another team. Sports of the the last number of years it is able to come together like that And I'm talking about a team that you know not always competing so every two years they coming together as a group and they create such a tight bond and they are such a close family. They always play better than what everybody thinks. And Israeli is so amazing. And when you watch the Ryder Cup and you see how that European team performed the unit. It's pretty inspiring and I think when you look back to what hell happened in Australia. That was what Ernie was trying to create. You know maybe for the first time in our team's history it's very difficult as the captain of the international team. There's a lot of hurdles to overcome. Look you in. All likelihood have seven eight nine different countries represented with vastly different cultures and languages and food preferences. I mean little things that people may not even think about and you only went out of his way over the two years of preparation to sure that he in the best way possible could bridge that gap and that was one of the things that made him such a great leader. You really did provide some kind of blueprint for us to be able to work off of for Future Cups. And so that's what we'll be looking towards. I mean we'll be trying to emulate European t that seems be the underdog every time they find a way to just sneak through that's that's how inspiration. So what's the one thing that you're most looking forward to? And then what's the one thing that you're most not looking forward to You know the thing. I'm most looking forward to is the process over the next eighteen months or so just being able to be out there You know in in in the broadcasting role that I'm in be able to be out there and focus on these guys be there for them. Get to know them all better. We're going to be able to cost a much bigger net- now than just the twelve that we head down in Australia. I'm going to be able to step back and look at probably thirty or forty players and see how they start to progress over the next eighteen months or so so I think that process is really going to be a lot of fun just really getting some good chemistry In our group and getting to know the players and caddies and families and everybody much better to where we can become one big solid family as far as one thing. I'm not looking forward to say more of a glut of full. Kinda guy so I haven't grasped a Lotta that just yet. I should've just asked most an daunting. What's the most daunting thing in your mind slightly different role for the most part in my career? I've been the athlete so I've been the guy that's in control of my own Gulf Bowl and depending on How much preparation I put in. And the way I applied myself during competition. I'm going to live and die by by the work that I've put it by performed under pressure so that's pretty much how I've lived my career and now all of a sudden I'm in a situation where you know. I can't go out there and hit a shot or do anything like that. You know quite frankly. The players are probably happy. I don't get into shot but you know I think that's GonNa be the undeserving thing. Is You just want so badly for these guys to play their best? I mean it's very clear how much it means to them. It was very clear down in Australia. And how important it is for them to try and win the come back off the so many years since nineteen ninety eight when they won loss of. That's probably the thing That I'm kind of wondering about is Is just being able to put these guys in a position to to play the best go? What kind of Pre Presidents Cup Pep Talk Guy? R U Rah or lists. Go get it done. I'm a little bit of both I think One of my strength is on the bay able to adjust on the fly and some of the situation and hopefully make the correct decision. So I think I'm going to be a little bit of both but You know already got a few ideas and you know. We'll find a way to get that team ready to go But at the end of the day man. It's just like any sport. You can talk as much as you want but when you get out there on the field when you get it out there on the first tee you'd better have your again ready. Do any of those ideas have anything to do with lotion or no not Bryan know you you as you and I go way back and you tell me sell enough secrets on the radio. I won't I promise I won't well. Maybe maybe one day. We'll we'll tell that story after the President's Cup but you were saying now you think you think it's going to be a little easier since you're in a booth now and I. I tend to think that might be a little bit true. Because it'll be easier for you so see all of the talent that's out there instead of only being able to play with one or two guys per week it. Would you agree with that? Yeah I do agree with that Mike and his wife you know when I was competing more and playing well One of the ways that I had to go about achieving that was I had to be seriously focused and single minded and quite frankly downright selfish I mean. My wife will attest to that and You know I had to get into my bubble to make sure that I was playing my best Gulf and so if I was still competing I don't think there would be a way for me to do both whereas now When I'm doing the broadcasting obviously as you know and as as as all of us do we're always prepping and studying and making sure that we're ready for whatever may happen but you know Mondays Tuesdays and Wednesdays at the very least I can go out there and and be there for these guys. My focus can be on them and their caddies their games and what's bothering what. They're liking and different ideas that they may be coming up with. So that's the way I see it and that's why I think that The timing of all of this as far as being a captain And being able to be out there and have my finger on the pulse from a standpoint of knowing what's going on in the world of Gulf Could be something that May Work for. I said I'm going to ask you to put on your broadcasting hat in a minute as we discussed some of the changes in the Gulf schedule the major championships coming up this year but before we get into the adjustment with. Us Open and the Masters if the settle a bat now not not knowing like we know when the Masters GonNa get played this year. But I want this argument. It's argument it's an argument in your head. You're up to one we want. I'm up to two one. That's right okay. So as the two thousand eight Masters Champion. You know what this means better than anybody. Would you rather play the masters tournament as scheduled with no patrons war not played at all those you choices You know my my my. My my foremost thought is the most important thing to me. Right now is that I want everybody in the world to be safe and healthy but as far as those two two options as a competitor If you giving me an option to play in the masters I'm going to play at any moment in time. You just tell me when I'm GONNA be there on less of in there are there are look. The Patriots are obviously part of the fabric of the monsters and the respect that they give the players and the way that they understand the traditions of Augusta national and the Masters Tournament and Amen Corner and all the little Customs that when you come to love of the it goes without saying it really is an amazing experience as the Gulf that to be able to play in front of crowds that and patrons that are that knowledgeable But what's yes I would I would play regardless man all right. That's the competitor me talking but if I said to you right now. Here's the deal. You're you guys are going to go to Augusta this week. You'RE GONNA play the two thousand twenty masters but there aren't going to be any patriots whatsoever. So that's your choice if you guys don't WanNa do that five but we're just GONNA skip it. This year you would choose no patriots. Yes the roars. The Sunday will forever look and the other thing is this matt met. The other thing is is that I've learned over the years That everything that happens at Augusta national is so well planned and prepared for that I one hundred percent trust their judgment the same way that I trust the PJ to judgment from a standpoint of the way they looking at the schedule going forward yeah. I mean that that is. I was really. I'll be the first one to admit when it came out that the date was going to be a November but at the very bottom they said all ticket holders will be welcome. I was surprised but what I've been trying to explain to. Matt is when you're inside the ropes as great as the roars are throughout Augusta. It doesn't mean anything to the PEOPLE WATCHING ON TV. And if you're trying to win a golf tournament it's Nice but it doesn't matter because the feeling is the same regardless. Well you know as a kid growing up. The opportunity to play at Augusta National and in the mosque is something that you dream of and just to have that ability at any time is a thrill on. I'm trying to figure out how you to drag me into this argument deals trevor. Here's the thing that's crazy. The first guy that when we had this argument the first guy on the podcast that we threw that question too. Was Tony fee now and Tony said I don't WanNA play if there's no people I was like what. What are you talking about you play your whole high-school college you play your whole amateur career and then in all the little screen door open events that you've laid before he gets into PGA TOUR. There ain't no crowd your point. You're still playing find their data. Look I don't think there's any right or wrong answer. I just feel like the most important thing is that as as a global community we can make it through this Tough time and get back to some sort of normalcy where we can start to go about day-to-day lives and start enjoying all the different things that We love about our lives and for the three of us you know. Some of those things is is major championships and End The mosque tournaments You know I'm hoping that we're able to go ahead in this date in November that they spoke about yesterday with patron and we can continue to enjoy all the traditions That we are used to and it'll be an amazing success. You know I touched on earlier. When you're a little kid growing up in you hit the puck on the green chip shots. You not all this. Is You know to beat Nixon. The MAZDAS and you just imagine nation is running wild. Imagine being not only winning the mosque's but having lost to win it at a total different dates in November. I mean you talk about how cool story and adding to the Mystique of Augusta national and the MAZDAS. I mean that would be the greatest Trivia sports question you know in in fifty years time like who is the only player to win the masters in November. And it's a perfect set up to my next question me. This guy who who won the two thousand eight Basser. The runner up that year was the guy named Tiger Woods. So you understand what it's like to win at the peak of the competition. How weird is it for you? A masters champion to be talking to two idiots like us on the Tuesday of pastors and not be at Augusta national well. I'm sure that if even if we were Augusta right now and things were if we can imagine that we were Things were normal. I probably would have spoken to one or both of you today. Anyway but You know it's it's odd. It's odd but we've had such a weird lost four five six weeks that I think it's just starting to get new STU things being canceled and and and being Postponed suspended that we're just Kind of rolling along with it But yeah you know. I played my first. Master's in ninety nine is an amateur and then pretty much been going every year since those three or so. And you know there's been some amazing memories not just for me but for my family as well you know when I won my son was a year and a half and so and he was like you know a little island was a small part of it and as he started to go up and then my daughter was born. My son's now thirteen my door nine years old when we go there. The family now It's a total different experience for me. You know I can see the joy through there is And the appreciation that they have for Augusta National in full that tournament and for what that tournament has done for our family and the way that they love the pod three tournament and and things like that So it's been a pretty cool journey for me from going into an eighteen year old kid from South Africa. That had no clue what he was doing. Playing Ninety nine through the years when I thought that. Hey if the things go my way I might have a chance to win and then winning and then now at a different phase in my life it it. It's been an amazing journey. And so yeah. It is awed not to be there in on this particular week but Like I said I'm a glass half full guy so I I'm looking forward. I bought a smiley face. When I sold the schedule announcement because a- It gave me something to grab onto their. You know getting so much bad news. Yes and we've been getting so much bad news and of a sudden it just gave me something like okay okay good Poulsen Dolphin and you look again. I see the light at the end of the tunnel are so. Here's two quick once one when it comes to Augusta national egg salad or parental cheese. Which you you. It's excellent all day. Mike are probably eat. I would say to eggs salad sandwiches a day from Monday to Sunday. I'm right witchy that more. Those peach cookie ice cream sandwiches oh. I'm not sure that I've ever had one. Oh be glad I won't eat. I won't eat my first one 'til Thursday because I know what has turned into a crackhead do. I'M NOT GONNA lie man. He's upbeat yet now. But the exile. I'm the same. It's the same way with egg salad. I think the cheese was joke that they're playing on the whole university. Comes there because those things are just horrible but the Egg Salad? I don't know what they put their eggs Alec. What Is Different Than Egg Salad everywhere else. The other one I wanted to ask you is as when you became a masters champion in two thousand eight. What's the coolest thing about being a masters champion that you didn't know until after you won like what was the coolest park? The coolest perk without a doubt is being able to go to the Champions Dinner. Ek such an amazing evening and you know a guy like me growing up and playing this game from a very young age I always pay close attention to the history of the game and all the great champions that were winning these events and so for me to have won that tournament and then sit in that room with all these guys that I looked up to an idolize through the is. It is mind blowing so you know at various times throughout the evening. I'll just like this. Biggest smile will come on my face. No be like what is going on. How did you get in this room? So that is that is for sure the The coolest perk I mean. What a great evening that is. I gotTA say But he does. Tiger was going with Fajitas. Yeah and I was so pumped about that. I mean that's I ever killed so hopefully hopefully you know T- diocletian sticks with that And we get the play November and he sticks to that. I was seriously looking forward to those needed. What was on your menu? Two thousand nine. What'd you serve? I serve the couple of south. African dishes We actually ran a competition in South Africa in one of the biggest newspapers and we got everybody to vote. So what we ended up going with a dish called the booty and you guys should You guys should Google this trying to make it at home. I can't even. I was just GonNa say that sounded a little bit too close to the booty. B. T. E. Google. It really really good flavorful. Guys loved wind down really well and then the desert with something called the book talk. And that's another thing you should make it at home. Send MEAL PICKS. Let me see okay. We've got time on our hands. That'd be another good this year. Who who who is held the green jacket for the longest. And it'll be tiger because he's going to go from April through the following November. Yeah and you. Can't you have engine and can you imagine if If we're fortunate enough for this scheduled to stay in place you're gonNA have a masters in November and then another masters the following April. I mean that sounds pretty good to me. The end of course is gonNA play completely different on both occasions. Yeah it has it. Has that opportunity for sure you look at the temperatures are going to be much cooler in. November. In all likelihood you'RE GONNA get some type of northerly wind which really does change the way the cost plays close to play a lot longer and scoring probably went quite be as good but You know like we spoke earlier any time you get to play. The We'd take is want to get this straight so in the south on a Saturday and Sunday you're going to have the master's college football in the. Nfl IS WANNA make sure. I'm getting it right at pretty good to me. Signed me up. People are going to be drunk for a month. Man I I. It's GONNA be awesome. You know an and Off The we get through this And all these sports and leagues from all over the world you know you talk about football and And then and then and I'm talking about soccer soccer American football and baseball and basketball. Pga Tour and all these different leads that start up all over the world Shucks we are. We're going to be spoiled for choice. It's going to be amazing it'll be. That'll be the best so the other question I wanted to ask. You is as a masters champion with that. You got the master's locker in the champions Locker Room. I'm sure that is amazing. As well knowing that you know you got your name up there but that also then gives you access to go play every now and then. I talked to one masters champion. Who told me they never went and played like in the fall or the winner on the off season the only time that they would show it will be the Sunday before the tournament we started. Had you ever gone up and just going up there to play. Maybe hang played a part three. You know. Stay at a cabin. Oh yeah absolutely absolutely I. It's an awesome experience It's something that I've thoroughly enjoyed any other thing. That makes it so cool Mike. Is you able to stop to meet all the different members and start to understand their story and what they do for a living and what the connection is with the club it's It's something that I absolutely loved to and it plays perfectly for your likes. There's no patron so you guys can play Augusta national in my mouth right. Listen to him he drinking a whole rig understand the context banditry on my side. We Love You. We love watching you on TV. But I'm GONNA pass on the South African dish consisting of spiced minced meat baits with an egg based topping. Oh so go me. Dun Dun judge a book by Coverages Cook it up. Let me know. We'll we appreciate your time. This was fun catching up with you. Hope you in. The family are safe during these these scary times and we look forward to seeing you out in a golf course for a major tournament. Congratulations captain I can't believe. Thanks for having me on guys I appreciate. It's good to hang up Yemen someday. We'll tell the lotion stories. Both laps make that sound. Like I get to be Disney friendly but I appreciate you good so that Michael kind of the players perspective from a man who knows Augusta National Masters. Well it is weird. Doing it's every year that we've done this podcast. We thought it from Augusta are hidden episode with John. Daly was when he got us here. We live live. Yes we did the live. Podcast with Padraig Harrington yes. This is weird. Not being there with you but I think making the most of it that we can during Masters Week is that we can at least reflect in the date that came out and I said at the beginning of the show to get the minutia of that you about hair record last night. It was fantastic but to at least be able to enjoy the masters this week before we look forward to it trying to be positive out of a very weird situation. Well look. Let's be honest man. There's a lot of things that people can be hopeful about. And maybe in and we hear a lot of best case scenario stuff right with all maybe war by June. You know there's a good chance with the new schedule you know. Something wants to fill in where the report that we talked about. Yesterday was the memorial is hoping to get the. Us Open's old date in June. Yeah which is weird since the tour still hasn't officially even come out and postponed the memorials date yet. So like the colonial memorial. Those are still on the books as going ahead as scheduled when we all know. They're not bright. The one thing about this week in the master's and master scheduling for when they did in November is November is so far ahead that that's one thing that we can look at and go quite honestly. That's realistic I know that no matter. I know I shouldn't say I know what I should say. Is I feel in my heart and in my bones that I know. We're going to be an Augusta in November. Yeah that's almost a worst case scenario but the fact that that candle is licks and I can see that at the end of the tunnel and I know in my heart and soul that we will be there this November. That makes anything that happens. Between now. And then just a little bit more bearable. Just a little bit and I'll take it one step further I think I was talking to people about just say I love August for the PGA Championship. Because I told someone the other day I said look it is April seventh. So you've got all of April. All of May all of June all of July. That's four months. We're not the position to play major championship in August. The problems we have are much bigger. And so the intrepid hit on it and I thought it was perfect that there's somethin' to look forward to their something on a date in this comes from a sport that is postponed tournaments. They've now rescheduled some. Yes Oh big picture in a world. That's our new normal. That's the way we have to look at it. We have to look at it like okay. We don't have the masters this week but we do have the masters in November. And you know what right? Now I'll take it and the only the only thing I would say to that that scares me a little bit about both the PGA Championship and the US Open is where they're being played right. That's the house out. In Louisville Mahala. Write a note the plan for the PGA Championship was the stay at TC. Harding harding part. Was it yeah? So and that's why it may be nervous. It makes me nervous that you know the. Us Open being in in New York. Pretty much a mile from the epicenter of where the explosion of the pandemic happened in New York City. That makes me nervous. And the fact that San Francisco was another epicenter of one of the big explosion number allies early in his early. If we're tied matters time if time address there but we also know that the operations 'cause you know a lot of people a lot of people will say in times like this golf is the easiest thing while it's easy for golfers to get out in between the rows putting golf broadcast on throws a monkey wrench the size of Rhode Island into their. Yeah we talked about that last week. A little bit of everything that goes along with it but masters week we wanted to get your masters champion and the News Trevor. Immelman coming out on Tuesday morning that he was the president's come champion or he was. Don't give champion already man actually. He's a Whiz but I do what they do win. I want the pep talk. I want him to come back on the PODCAST. Give us the pep talk so I got a couple of podcast. Listen to this week. You've got Harrigan caddy from yesterday would do special this week. What are you GonNa do Special Masters Week you see? I got my even though you what everyone else can't say. I got the William Murray Special Golf Sir. The Master Shirt on I wore my William Murray shirt in my top. Slow the with the press conference number one. Congratulations on making it to the final. Four as gase yeah. Big upsets were huge for people. Who Don't know a someone put out a greatest sportscenter anchor. bracket sixty four sports center anchors past and present in our boy. Mattie was sixteen seed and upset a number one seed and then upset a number eight seed was at eight four eight. I think he took out a one of a one keith. Olbermann eight Tommy. Yup a Foreign John Anderson in a two and Chris Berman and Berman. That was fifty one percent to forty nine percent to make it to the final four. Which was that was absolutely unheard of. Soda. That's a win. But the press conference that you did for people who have not seen it. You GotTa go on Matt Berry's twitter and you got to watch what he put out there. 'cause it's hilarious and it's a hard thing. I felt so bad for Randy. Scott Anti virus like. I'm not going to be able to live this dude. I need you. You know what I need you in their big hit now to come down here to help me with my squirrels scare. My squirrels. Lucky that the next next great. Espn's Joe's going to be in the wild and we're GONNA take down every damn thing. We can Joe Exotic snake. The snake stuff. I put out with the eleven year. Old Yemane you gotta get your kid away from herb apology. Oh man he's he's like the animal whisper and if the snake is big enough. I'll need to worry about the squirrels. Ooh and be good. You gotta go in the backyard. Like all of I'll olive oil looking snake. We've got the snake and then there's this big ass squirrel body imprint in the middle of its stomach. That's what a liquid laying on a hot rock to land. I actually did have a snake name olive oil a reticulation python us. Look before you get into this. If you really want to get this story we had. There's a podcast. Go back to the archives. Yes it was when we were in Lake Tahoe out. That didn't a master herpetology. It's one of our all time greats. So look this up. Didn't have a good one. Yeah Olive Oil was particularly to python there the longest the world tied with the Anaconda. But they're the skinniest one of the skinniest for their length so hence the term olive oil because every time she would eat a rat. It looked just like you were talking about. It looked like a might stand. That had a fart get stuck. So that's that would solve the squirrel problem here in the backyard. If I could get but we don't have any snakes that big little. They're all they're all under three feet long. So you gotTa have something at least four feet with some a little bit of girth probably weighing about six pounds. That'll be big enough to take out a large squirrel others descriptions. You just said you'll never be able to have in common wish. Let that sink in patrons we love you alad sandwiches this week by the way I will tell. This is a company person par three contest. Yup Thousand Eighteen tomorrow at one thirty PM eastern following. My sportscenter GonNa have Tony phenolic. Gt Nicholas on sports. That are two stars from that. Two thousand eighteen par three contest. Olea and never going to be joining the female star. Or if we're GONNA plus never seen never before seen pictures from his phone his ankle that night we're GonNa have no doing that man out here. Yeah Skinny Yeah two years you know and then pictures. Better check me. Programming Guide out rejoined vintage masters round. If we can't have it we're going to show you the best of and I know Sunday I believe. Cbs's joined the final round of last year's masters when Tiger won the other hands. Got You Wednesday Thursday Friday this week and guess what thirty minutes before. All of those rewind start. Were doing social media. Live stuff so literally right before you and I started doing this. Yeah I was. I was interviewing Jack. Nicklaus the second about eighty six so Wednesday at two thirty or two will right. I think the eighty-six comes on at three o'clock after the par three so two thirty on all the social media platforms is going to be the one that we're doing that as well. Wednesday Thursday Friday. So we'll do a lively. Ron Re re So it's a rewind of the show. I'm doing a thing. Called Masters Memories on on the social media platform and then easing are doing something. I think six thirty on Thursday night live to for Instagram. So we got masters. We got master's covered. We've got Thursday Friday. Let's pretend we're hopping in the flex. Capacitor WE'RE GONNA go back into time. Enjoy some of the greatest of all time knowing that we have one to look forward to in November for the caddy Michael Collins. I in the matic another week. Oh Madina caddy candy. Thanks for listening to the CADDY. Checkout more great. Espn podcast on the ESPN APP Apple. Podcasts were ever. You listen to podcasts. Madina caddy GEICO. Knows there many reasons why you ride from the Camaraderie of the other bikers. A band of brothers always there for you rain or shine to the amazing savings you get with Geico on your motorcycle and accessories coverage all year round but for but it was one reason in particular. It was my helmet hair. Osborne with helmet hair. I've tried to cut it a bunch of times even buzzing it but it immediately just goes back to helmet hair geico motorcycle. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.

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Michael Bamberger - 04/01/20

The Moment with Brian Koppelman

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Michael Bamberger - 04/01/20

"Hey this is the moment brian compliment. Thanks for listening my guest today. Showered for the PODCAST. Not Knowing podcasts. Were audio only. That's the kind of actually. It says something really great. About how immersed you are and what you do. Why trifle with things? Like how podcasts work. Even though you you do many podcasts allen my guest today is the brilliant Michael Bamberger who is a arguably the finest sports writer currently working. And if you're a friend of mine who's a sports writer and you're listening I said among so that your feelings would get hurt Michael Bamberger has just written a new book about Tiger Woods called Michael. The second life for Tiger Woods Brian I was very artfully worded. Because you know how sensitive we sports writers are despite the you know the odd couple in every other cliche down through the years about clouds we are so nicely worded can expect. No I do. I do know because when I covered the masters for sports illustrated that Ye couple years back. I wrote something about the way I noticed. Sports writers talking amongst themselves and quite a few of your brethren Were annoyed at me for that and I thought it was hilarious. How set as someone who's my work is as yours is written about all the time and I've learned to just roll with it and not judge someone personally but I could tell man. Sports writers do not like if you do what they do to them like. Nobody's business so it's really the ultimate in Double Standard Memory. Enjoyed radio yourself when you're down there. I think you were hanging out with Chris. Stone and and others of nightside is probably about two or three years ago now and I have a vague memory but told me that they have a right that you particularly enjoy watching the writers at the trough Enjoying the the the catering courtesy of Augusta national was an part of your bit. You took me. You took me to lunch there. I don't know if you remember. When he's down and Davis love came over to the table and No no yeah you guys all talked about that a lot but but no this gets us right into the subject of the book because no what I really noticed. Was the writers all acting and saying they were so upset about the dominant position in the story. That tiger had that everyone acted like a fronted at all. This talk tiger woods attention and up. The the crowd carrying about tiger who in their minds was finished yet. tigers mere presence made everybody's job feel Relevant and alive and everyone needed tiger and everyone needed tiny and they hated the fact that they needed him and I was fascinated by that and I imagine that that power dynamic fascinates you as well having read your book incredibly closely. Well that's That's a that's a great insight and I think it goes now Brown. You're you're you're younger than I. But Ju- Remember Willie mays his last year with the mets at all before he really well no really well. My Dad took a bunch of us. Here have a five hundred team. That's struggling it. Turns out you know. They made it to the world series that year but under Yogi Berra but Willie mays you know batting two. Oh two was the dominant figure of that team. And he commissioned Joe Durso Steve Katie and Red Smith guys covered the teams like wow. I can't believe I'm still writing Willie. Mays after all these years but then twenty years after the fact that must be like wow. How cool was that? We covered Willie mays in his last year. And that's that's always been my attitude about tiger even though he's been very challenging subject. I'm just speaking for myself. I understand a little off topic from what you're asking but just speaking for myself. I have always had the attitude of the exit challenging subject. Yeah How am I to cover secretariat not just for two or three year period but basically for twenty twenty five years now actually well? Yeah and that's clear and we're GONNA talk a lot about that. I WanNa stay though because of a I wanNA talk about a slight distinction in the Willie. Mays tiger wood's stories. It seems to me that the reason perhaps those sports writers Felt that way about Willie. Mays was this idea that they weren't into the nostalgia. They weren't into this Pretending that this guy who was having a hard time in Centerfield was still Willie mays with tiger. I felt more of an anger from the sports writers about Tiger and a re a key. I felt a kind of a huge split between the audience at the patrons at Augusta The fans at home watching on the Internet and the sports writers themselves. It seemed to me that the sports writers had a particular anger at tiger. That I can't imagine existed around the lionised Willie mays and I'm wondering wh You get at this a little bit in the book. But I'm wondering what your take on. That is why there is this level of Resentment about the position at the saints. I've heard all the money he brought into the game. But why is there a particular kind of anger directed at Tiger and tiger world from the majority of those who cover the game? Well very interesting observations. Look and I'm happy to just but let's just eh just slightly premium not from your to not use the word majority because I really don't know where the fault line would fall but having said that there's definitely a deep truth what you're saying for some percentage and I wouldn't want to try to identify the percentages. They wouldn't know a who who feel that way. I think part of the Bryan might be that you. You're old enough for this for sure. And I'm older yet. We fell in love with a game in which tiger woods was not a figure than we've been in the game when tyrod was figure and then we'll be in the game. We hope in some capacity long after tiger is done is done competing so there's a little bit or maybe not a little bit. There is resentment of tiger that he carried himself as if he were the game When it's not true and part of the actual charm of Arnold Palmer in particular but you could really say this elite Trevino and Jack. Nicholson Tom Watson others. Is that in almost every gesture? In almost every publisher they had there was an underlying understanding that they were not bigger than the game and would tiger. That wasn't really the case Do they address some of what you're interested in here? Well I think it does actually reveal A bunch of stuff. Yeah but I would suggest that it ignores that the game actively tried to keep people like tiger woods out so I understand completely. Why Tigers Why Tiger in the same way that people were annoyed they thought Serena and Venus weren't gracious when they were young. I completely see power race and class at pleasure and I feel eve. I feel That all I thought about when I was at Augusta was raised power and class in a way that surprised the hell out of me because Augusta's one of my favorite objectively Augusta is one of the most magical places in the world to me. I'm in love with it in many ways and then walking the grounds I am being by that big tree that you described that whole scene so incredibly. Well Michael. You're I I really WanNa talk about the way you right. It's really I think you are. It's beyond state of the art and I think there's a reason your books will last a very long time but I do think that this power dynamic there's This old guard idea about the game. Look you you make as I said to you An email you Make quite a few allusions in the book that are designed to appeal to people with various levels of engagement in the game popular culture literature. It's a real testament to what you do. That you've written a book can be That rewards multiple layers of of reading. But you kind of casually reference the way that Palmer would enjoy himself off the field without saying anything again. You know but you. If if people know the stories they know the stories yet all that behavior was sort of excused and in fact he was protected by the sports writers You would not think that he and Jack acted any differently. In those ways yet. Tiger is wholly considered differently. Do you think that's fair will? It's not fair and I agree with everything you're saying and And I'm sometimes to may be subtle in 'em I own writing expressing some of these things that you've just really hit the nail on the head. Let's just go back to raise our class for second raise. Power Class is the underpinning the foundation of how August national got got built and created the myth of Augusta National. What has happened over the years? In my opinion race power class has been subsumed by elitism and a sense of noblesse oblige. By which the club says. We open our doors for week. And you know if you if you have a super duper press fast like I can go. Wherever you want the clubhouse that's one level and even if you can only quote just walk the grounds well you're the insider inside of insiders and for that week even let me say I hope this is liberal minded people like like you like like I would say almost put that in like in a closet so we can just enjoy the majesty that you just described and tiger flies in the face of that not so much because of type not so much because of the example of tigers own life but really because of earl in Titas life and the fact that they raised this child to be accepted and to become the most powerful person in sport that's been dominated by rituals for for most of the twentieth century in the United States. And and we. Sorta LOSE TRACK OF THE OVERALL STORY. So there is so much going on in that one week and then the doors closed and then they sort of go back to leading the lives of delayed right just going to. I want to let you get right back. Just want tell this briefing quickly so as you know. Tiger went his first masters at age. Twenty one by twelve shots in his first major as a professional in nineteen ninety-seven and and I was writing for sports illustrated and that night I wrote a piece about how with this victory. Tiger Woods have become the most powerful person in the game in the game of golf as it happened a couple of months later. I was a guest overnight guests in the home in Augusta national member. This is home south Florida. He pulled that clipping out. He had like you know those old fashioned e B white heavy wool in the middle of the Florida summer. He's wearing one of those shirts they're heavy pockets of the whole thing like a CPO and he takes it out of one of the two L. O. B. Pockets and he reads the back to make and he says and says you know I wrote like the Greek coded members would have to cede power to kit and he said you dare to come into this house after writing that and I'm like Oh my God look I'm yourself into but it was just really really telling that and it's like everything in lights and you you write this weekly When you're when you're reading billing the people who have the power do not want to give it up but to keep the power they have to give little dollops out here and there and let people rise to some degree or else there's a revolution and revolutions bad so I don't know how I'm going crazy tangent here but you've what you said you're gonNA lot for me. Well yeah because B because tiger has a figure a so. There's a there's a sentence in in your book and say Michael. I don't know if if if you listen to the episode of my podcast. I did with Armand and his partner when they wrote the other Tiger Woods Book. But I did not. I noticed that you said that was very challenging interview. It was the most contentious interview. I've ever been a part of and and I really respect arm and all. I think he's great journalist. But I had real problems with that book because I felt it and I'm not I'm not gonNA I know they're friends of yours and published by the same people but I felt their book was an excellent document in in many ways but It lacked the love. The sort of The sense that this was a Greek hero and a Greek God and a Greek tragedy. And your book I think has so much love and regard for the game and four The particular challenge That Tiger Woods was the path. Tiger Woods was set upon from a very young age. And that's why I loved your book and I've given it too many people even though I there's one sentence in it that I felt was Maybe only one cents. I felt wasn't true in the book and I really WanNa ask you about this sentence because I think you choose your senses incredibly carefully and you I don't know the book in front of me so I'm gonNA paraphrase but the sentence was that you tiger Never was a hero. You didn't look to him to be a hero. You looked to him as somebody who could do an incredibly impossibly hard thing under incredible pressure over and over again and that was enough. But I would suggest that you reference Shiva's irons right from the beginning because to you and to the reader of your book. Tiger is the kind of hero that the Greeks wrote about a deeply flawed god-like figure brought down by carrot by by that very flawed character who Brian. I can't even begin to tell a joke during this. Okay Michael Murphy's Heroes Whatnot Mike Murphy but Michael Murphy Explorers Joseph Campbell's Hero's journey in his life way up and NGO MISS. Aren't so Michael Murphy wrote golf in the Kingdom Shiva. Sirens is the main character in that book. That book half of it and I love that you pointed this out. Half of that book is just one of the greatest things you could ever read for me the second half I can't deal with but the first half is Unbelievable and it's it's about the sort of apotheosis of the platonic ideal of Golfer. Okay go ahead. So and what? You speak of the Hero's journey I mean that is the Tiger Woods story and he does. He does go out. In the hero's journey the hero falls at the hands of the at the hands of Women. The hands of power of hands a lot of things and sue finds his way back but just to be just to go on and tactical level not very very capable very accurately but no. I would absolutely sand on that in other words. I know you don't want to go all over the lot here but I was you. I would review the Wallace Shawn Character in my dinner with Andre more heroically than Tiger Woods. Whereas you wouldn't look while Shaun's character there and say oh what a hero because he's not doing anything very exciting uplifting. But I wouldn't be almost unimaginable for me to look at any sports figure navy. Roberto Clemente would be an example in in truly heroic terms but having said that tigers ability to inspire in to excite until allow us to transport ourselves from our ordinary everyday lives Is Heroin and we need that In our lives. But it's just a little bit of the Greek classic definition of hero versus the everyday use of hero. Red Smith was one of my well. I just was about to use the phrase and I'm GonNa use it sports Red Smith. Yeah you WanNa WanNa tell the people who wrote. Get rid of famous down your he. Yes intil delay. Dan Jenkins passed away. Red Smith was the most oft cited. Late sportswriter one. That inspired you know even your mic. Luca's all woods and all the Great Sports Right Gary Smith would all sight read Smith as the great sports right now I grew breeding Red Smith and I was just about to say he was my writing here. He's definitely is one of my writing here. Is I know you might make a deal with writing later but the point here being that I just about used the word hero because I so spire to be you know to have just a follow read. Smith's steps into clubhouses Anyway so I guess Tiger Woods I don't really think of heroically and that sort of lost my own threat per minute but just back to Now arm and by the way I don't know either those guys. I did read their book with a lot of admiration for the report for the reporting that they did. But as you pointed out and I'm not saying this critical As an observation. That book was not written with a deep level of empathy. Because they really didn't know their subject like you know tiger in like I knew tiger because our starting point is we love golf. We now heartedness Anyway I'm sorry Brian I've no. That's a No. You know. This is Michael. This great. We're we're getting. We're getting to this question because I want to stay on this hero thing because your book is it's one thing to yes. We can cite the hero's journey and and By Campbellton very important book and and You reference it in reference you talk to Michael Murphy about it but the book is I I. I have three different thoughts. I'm GonNa say them all and we'll keep you and I can be as discursive as we want. Why not. We're comfortable with that and not. My audience is totally comfortable with that. So they're used to me being discursive so one I thought of course public enemy's line And is one of the great things about your book. I you whether you all over the place. You're throwing lines in illusions that make someone goes from us. Of course if thought of Elvis was a hero to most but he never meant shit to me right and but on the other hand the book is a study of a Greek of a heroic figure like you do structure the book and that way you start in this moment of loss of all of the the last vestige of innocence of Achilles. You start with the moment that it all gets torn away and then you allow us to Be With him as he vanquishes all opponents even the good man Molinari and so we get to see all this stuff happened on a hero's journey and the empathy. Glad you used that word. It's clear you have for this tragic hero so it to me that An a a tragedy sports writers version of the Greek tragedy is. These are people. This is what I noticed and this is why. I'm sometimes glad that I know that was obviously a path that could've taken him. I'm glad in many ways I didn't because as much as I love doing it when I get the chance to do it and I actually think it's why Bill Simmons changed. That's why I think not you personally. But a bunch of your breed hate bill or hates what bill or hates the notion that bill is tiger. Woods sports writers build change the game. He's more important than the game and I think it drives. Sports writers nuts because bill was willing to say. Yeah these guys are heroes to me. He did never lost what I think. So many of you are proud to have lost. Which is this idea that the mere fact that they can do these impossible things makes them heroic right and just to go back to the to one of the original early here. I think there's resentment there's an underlying resentment of tiger in that. He never really gave the writers much work with Internal Haas in terms of spoken words. Therefore fuck them and that might attitude has been well. He's given us a tremendous amount by what he's actually done on the golf course and it's our challenge to figure out how to explain how to turn that language language of the The RIP fiber iron from two forty on the fifteenth hole Sunday at Augusta Whole high going down the hill toward the to to to turn what he does and how he expresses himself through the actual playing of shots and then his own body linked to to express that to the audience in in in meaningful ways so so that very his stinginess with words in a press conference is a starting point for resentment in my fascinating. I remember standing in that little area. By what do they call that area by the big trees that where the players give their interviews? F- outside under the tree would be under the trees. I remember standing Under the tree and watching Bubba get interviewed and someone asked him about Sergio's putting the balls in the drink and you describe all that beautifully someone asked him about it because it had just happened and he looked at them and he said this is a very hard game. How come you guys just never like acknowledged how hard this is? And I think your book does an incredible job dude of articulating what it takes to execute this game. Well and and I guess this is what I want to ask you if the difficulty of golf having to master yourself in the way. Shiva sirens Michael Murphy. Talk about if it does reveal character which. I believe you think it does. Then what does it tell us about? The Man Tiger Woods in his heroism. And if it doesn't reveal character can what are we doing thinking about it this much? Well you know. I've devoted an ungodly portion of my life to the very question you're asking and you won't be surprised at all to know that. I very much failed. A golf does real character and that's why along with baseball on a few other things in life I I could spend a lot of time of writing about it This lead the rules aside. Because I think that it's almost obvious how the rules of golf our ethics test really The playing golf at my level. Your level and tigers level is essentially the same act. And if you let's say you and are playing a challenging course of Baltusrol Everett might be and we're trying to break ninety. The emotional challenges that were going through on her. And our and our walk to the clubhouse. You know we can talk about Chaucer and cadre tells because there is that element of Goth as well are pretty much identical to the challenges of trying to get to the house at Augusta national knowing that to seventy six is either gonNA play off her win. There really is that much that much difference. So I so if at Molinari can't keep his bowl driving twelve dry on twelve and team as it could not by starting point is. I've been there brother and now somebody else to say. What do you mean you've been there? You know you barely qualified for your club. Championship will have been there. Because I know the game is hard. The ball is still completely still doing nothing. You're standing over the ball and it's this weird blend mind body blend that allows you to propel the ball in a certain direction and it is loaded with imperfection or you know the prospect for imperfection and that pretty much they're all every shots imperfect to to varying degrees. And so when you when you take all together. It is a challenge and a test of one's character. Can you rise above the physical and mental problems? Presented it playing the shot. Would that ball at your feet doing nothing and achieve something now? You have all sorts of other character tests. How are you going to deal would say Jordan Golf? Especially how are you gonNA deal with your playing partners? Who are your friends and your enemy? How are you going to deal with that golf? Course which is both your friend and your enemy. How are you going to deal with the rule book? Which is there to protect you in. Screw you at the same time. So there's so much swirling. It's just like baseball where you know people say you know baseball's so slow baseball's so slow until you realize how fast it is because you have to make so many adjustment so quickly To play the game woke up the exact same I do such a swirl of stuff going on all the time. It's actually amazing that these were guys golfers can get around in. You know three forty five and time for Sixty minutes on Sunday night in a normal masters here and so then so if we go back and read the the the Greek tragedies there yes they may be God's where they may be figures Who are royal they May Be Put to tasks that feel like they are life or death but ultimately often it is about Duty Obligation expectation And and character flaws revealed. And and that's what we call heroes right the the the question. I guess I would ask you is. Isn't it heroic in any sense other than that which you know someone goes to war you know sacrifices for someone else which is quite you know other than other than people who You know on the front lines in the world of medicine basically Or small acts of kindness is not something we see. Every day isn't in our culture in the way it normally exists especially in a pre sort of covert nineteen world. Isn't it a stand in for heroism in some way? Isn't that why so many of us not you love. Tiger Woods Adore Tiger Woods in like the old sense of the word Adore. Well yes I think that's true and I think we a very simple take for me on what you just said is we could look at Eisenhower. Aerobically in for what he did. World LOOK AT EISENHOWER. Roic for the creation of the interstate highway system. That's allowing us to get our food on a daily basis Right now teddy. Roosevelt for starting the national Parka system in service said that that we enjoy today Those would be big grand examples of noble heroic behavior that the example Tiger Woods of course is a much more narrow but I would say this is the very ordinary sports fans experience. He lifts us by his example. And and I think Brian. I certainly don't want to speak for you in any way but I think what what baby you're picking up from. The book is what I feel. Is that tigers. Life example is so roic because of this sine curve thing that we're talking about up down up down up and it's doable and that but we need the example. We need the example. Yes that's why I would assert that he is a hero to you even though you state overtly that he's not that's all. I know you've made it. You made a great believe it or not. I would write that sentence again. Only because I'm using hero a little differently than you are but now we have much more nuanced conversation of what constitutes heroism and. Yes and by the way I need. This is such a cliche. But you know any character from any Bruce Springsteen song written before Nineteen Seventy Five. And he's got the lunch pail job and it's boring and monotonous and could lose a finger at any moment and he comes home in his insurance and he's got food on the table and he can change his own oil. Obviously that is an American hero too because look at the example. He's created for two kids. Whatever and on the brush is a perfect example okay but boosts the perfect example and. I WanNa stay with this because this is why I think so much of this not I think you do. I WanNa talk to you about Bobby. Jones's grandson and why we great grandson why we give him great grandson grandson. Doug Brinson his grandson and why we give him such a microphone but because of the race question in class question but you bring up Bruce and it's a perfect example so bruce's a true hero to me. I got to have dinner with US year. I get to have dinner with Bruce this year and it was As I haven't I you know I was saying this. My wife and kids recently like I. I still have a process that it was five months ago and I still really haven't processed that. I got to have dinner with him. But Bruce himself has stood on a stage and said Hey. I'm not as noble as the Guy I want to be in the songs. He wrote a book about it. He all over and over told us and so many words. Hey he he actually said it. In the storytellers right. I went to strip clubs. I would sit outside of them. WanNa be different guide. WanNa be the bruce that the songs make you think I am but I'm not quite that. Guy. I'm a more complex difficult person. And that's the price. Maybe we all pay for the fact that I can do this thing. I do in my art yet. Bruce is considered a fully. is fully accredited and acceptable to just adore and love Bruce. Knowing by his own admission he was unfaithful at times. He wasn't the best day you know. He fucked up a lot do yet with tiger maybe because of the nature of golf maybe because of the fact that he's black and Asian White Man's Game. The it seems to me that every time we hold him up we have to say but but but but but in a way that. We don't often do that for other kind of figures of his stature. You may be onto something that I haven't given enough thought to and I will but I but I would say the same for Bruce's I would say For Tiger that I would say Johnny Carson the missteps for Martin Luther King for JFK. For Your father in my father for you and for me and I don't mean to say all men there. I don't know why that group is all men because I think even we don't know much about Georgia O'Keefe but you know she might be on the list to but but the point I'm trying to make is we go down to the spectrum. We CATCH BRUCE. Show and were transported ember lifted and we feel like we can do a little more something with our lives. That is a ROIC act and I would say watching tiger go from where he was on that Memorial Day. Two thousand seventeen nine. Oh some of your listeners will not talk about some well but where he was to where he was. That is a heroic journey. I've not shied all about using the word heraldic in that sense. And I I. We've we've discussed already. You know my one use and that went sentence but I'm totally totally with you. I feel like I'd probably a I need to probably take more more about it but I think you're I think you're very much this is why I love your book. Don't man because it raises these questions of the great thing is you. You put that sentence in there but then you take on the journey. I have said this before and it is more than true. How can something you more than true? 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It is one of the greatest For me it is one of the greatest documents about what happens around powerful people and about what happens when Somebody believes the reasons for their success. had to do only with them and in fact that their success is proof of their infallibility and later on much later night made a comeback similar to tigers. Perhaps but what is it about these kind of figures that attracts you so much? Do you think how do you pick? Because you've written very personal books. Michael you've covered a wide variety of athletes. But you don't write quickey sports books you do not write a sportsbook even if you write them fairly quickly. They're not quickey. These are books that it's clear. You really think about thematically. You really think about the voice. You're gonNA use to tell the story. You approach your subjects with Rigor and empathy. How do you decide where you're gonNA put that particular portion of your energy that fully immersive part of what you do well? I guess Brian that it's it's similar in different To what you've but let let let's say in your case I don't know if you were broker. Not Whatever your your your station on. Mike was on but you're sitting in a room. I think he did it with somebody else. And you have this idea that turns into rounders in other words a guy in a room sleeping on a mattress while must be by mattresses and then just by his own will turns it into movie that moves I would guess. Probably millions of people Ebonite Shamlan regardless of the group in Avalon family. And all the rest you know. That's not immature. But let's leave that aside. He goes to a funeral and he sees a kid talking to himself and imagined the kids saying I see dead people and he takes the phrase and turns it into a script that become some movie that becomes a conic really Tiger Woods. Orne under these atypical circumstances Black father who lived through racism went to be Who who found the woman who became his wife there who had only one child and that child is tiger woods. And you take that child. When that child was born that child's road ranking on the world on the Rogoff ranking was number three point three billion and twenty years later that number one in other words so that path of what your what the individual can do with once life? I realize I'm saying nothing and everything here but I guess that's what I'm drawn to. You know here's a here's a this is kind of crazy in kind of summer. We are all up and I think about this really probably every day. We are all granted. Juice shorted twenty four hours every day. That's a given to every person on on what in God's name are you GonNa do that? Twenty four hours. What you do what? I do what you know. A dope dealer does and someone. Who's you know fighting? Alcoholism does and would somebody who's on their front The frontlines lines of this Of this epidemic. It's all gonna be very different but I well. This is really an inside the discus to my reporting one thing that I found helpful reporting life is to the starting point being is that we all have these twenty four hours. And what are we going to do with himself? Wants Brock Obama very briefly. And it just curbed me like what the heck is the guy done today you know. Did you happen to be on? Martha's vineyard so you know. Now Martha's vineyard surrounded by water I said. Did you get President Obama? Who is sitting president? Did you get the ocean today? And it turns out that he did he told me but anyway I think I'm probably not really answering your question. I'm just bury drawn. Should they did? That person has a problem in his or her mind a goal in his or her mind and then and this is a critical component. Actually does the work to achieve something and I know you do that your life and I try to do that. My life and I would say Night Shamlan and In Tiger Woods and many others as well along the way I developed sort of sub interest in people who try really hard and don't quite get there and it doesn't really matter that's yes that's also fascinating for sure it to think about. And how do you as a as a storyteller because you're masterful storyteller man? How do you decide and went in the process? You decide how you're gonNa tell the particular story what I mean by. That is the kind of language you're gonNA use but also the narrative in point in other words. When did you make the decision okay? I'm going to start by telling the story of these officers who arrested tiger. How and I'm going to do it and I I'm GonNa do it in a language that has some police procedural in it in the beginning and I'm also then going to do it in this language that Is that these sort of Michael Bamberger way with with words. How does how does that all tone tone of voice and narrative structure when and how do you decide those things how much of it is instinct? And how much of it is intentional craft? Well now I hope not overdoing here but just to go back to Jay body because he is one of my heroes and I always when Bart save comes up I I always say that Bart Giamatti when I first doom was the President Yale University wife. Toni Giamatti was. She taught journalism at a private day. School in new haven called Hopkins and I. I was a kid out of college and they were sort of larger than life figures to make but also especially if you take that you know well. They've got twenty four hours given to them to just sort of people going through their life too but anyway one of them was very interested in journalism general and and and that's really was the foundation to the great. We had a friendship that was the foundation of the friendship. In one of the things that Bart would say is the language of the subject should dictate to some degree not completely to some degree. The language of the writing doubt the recent is coming to mind abroad. I I wish I'd gotten to know Bart Giamatti. I love Paul so much and anytime I've heard him speak of his dad. It's it it makes me know. What a an incredibly special man. He he must have been right okay so so so language of the subject a dictates the language of the writing to some degree. We're not GONNA say complete have been somebody okay. So in this instance now a friend of mine there's addict joke on on the first page of the other first page of the book and a friend maybe thinking about how his wife might read the book. I'm not really sure we think he's you know like the book but why. Chaffetz it held the Dick Joke. Page one well because it's because it's tiger because that joke is part of crew tiger really is and even when tiger has flights of fancy or is doing something with his kids or is raising money for his foundation. I want you remember that. He is very comfortable with the Dick Joke. So so that you're also aware in that so I gotta ask about that moment. 'cause okay again. I think this thing you do which is also felt you were Petra. Perhaps doing that To remind us that The first big sort of public tiger ever got it was at the magazine shoot when he was telling off. Color jokes rand right an end. Even though you don't tell that story in the book but that You might reference a brief. But you don't really tell it but to me I read that opening line and I was like brought back to Tiger at twenty two years old and I felt like you were letting us pick up from there with some sort of reminder. Was that in. Is that intentional in other words was that in in your head also well not specifically mentioned. I think I think what you're saying is very true. I can't say I was thinking that specifically but just that I didn't want I didn't want to lose sight that this is sort of a locker room guy he is a jock He's been in all-male environments. You know all all his life I just didn't want you to lose track of that For Minute so So that's part of what picks the just part of a language choice? Or what how you my right. The idea that That this was a life in acts. The book is as you know I well. It's it's sold almost like it's almost like it's almost like it's a play because that's really how I see. Life in General Tigers in particular and I'm focusing really on a two year extraordinary two year period that does begin with this police procedural and basically ends with him Getting a green jacket put on bit mcdonagh shoulders and it did seem operatic at the actual and so it just kinda lent itself to to that path and then just to go a little further down that that road per You'll know the same but many listeners won't puncture Kenyan. Did you know that up of KOGAS? Yeah so fr fracture Kenyon was the longtime producer of the Masters told us many times but but many people people always say he and they will always say. He invented golf on television. That'd be I've said I've forever. And I'm paraphrasing USA Philadelphia. I got genome a little bit. He would say the the masters others. Wouldn't you know there are three really Sui Generous Golf tournaments of the US Open the British? Open in the masters in the Masters to jerk. Kenyon that was his baby and it was the greatest of all tournaments because it had the most extraordinary stage the gusts national golf course and it and it was built it was a three act play unfolding for with the Thursday Friday route. His Act one Saturday round his act two in the Sunday route. Three and the protagonists Were whoever happened to play well that we can if it was Charlie coody and gay brewer great and it was Tom Weiskopf and Arnold Palmer better but not necessarily better you know it was all good. He whatever you know he's like. Red Smith you know God is good God will provide somebody's GonNa win this tournament and their life's GonNa Change because of it. And he was going to tell that story so anyway. So I took cues from sugarcane for my own love of theater and movies and that kind of storytelling and that just sort of dictated The destruction of the thing. I've got a very close friend. The actor David Morse and have you ever worked with David? Boon Paul's manager Perry manages David as well and I think David's An incredible actor huge fan and David George Washington when Papa John Items that series Some years ago so David and I worked on some things over the years. And and we're we're actually trying to do something now. What about the boring part in the beginning and he said Yeah. There's not going to be a boring part in the beginning and on the you may we're going to start with something interesting right from the beginning. He said Yeah I. I think that's better than having a boring parts. Wow that's really good. I'M GONNA brought that up. You know what it's like Brian. We do the same thing in different ways. It's like you steal from everybody you learn from everybody. It's like when Curtis when Curtis strangers going bad. They'd say you know what what's Curtis Stone with his golf game you might want to issue is open so her from to start. You is open for years. And they're like a curse is taking tips from Delta Sky Cabs another. We'll we'll take from anybody and I. I'm sure you're Decem. I read all day every day. And you're not in my case. I'm not consciously ones. I'm not consciously learning the craft of writing while on reading. I'm just reading and in the reading. You're picking stuff up all the time so you know when you're growing at the time in the Yes. Of course yeah. You have to be reading all the time. If you're a writer you have to be watching stuff in reading all the time and I agree with you. You're not consciously picking stuff up but you are. You're you're learning and I certainly felt that way Reading your book this episode is brought to you by the terrific new podcast go and see hosted by the legendary Malcolm glad well produced by the team behind revisionist history going sees a six part series focused on Lexus and the philosophy of Genn she gambled Su which means go. And see for yourself. 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So in the world of golf there is well. I'll say it this way as I just returned to this idea that for me as much as I glorify. Love the masters and watch all four days. I'll do anything I can to watch all four days of it and I could talk about it. Not You know you and Allen. No Thousand Times more about it than I do but I could stay in the conversation and I've read a lot of books about it but wh why. Why did you decide to give Doug Jones such a big voice in your business first name? Doug what's his first name. Bob Bob Jones. Sorry Bobby Jones's grandson. Why did you decide to give so doug? Jones is the Senator I confused. Why did you decide to give up Bob Jones such a big voice in the book and and I and and I said it's the only part of the the only part of the book that I actually You know I still feel that. Nobody gives when I was out Augusta. I felt walking around there. I felt the legacy of racism. I felt the legacy of classism. I felt in every step in the smiles and I'm friends with I'm friends with some members of Augusta I think the world of a couple of them But I can't walk around there without feeling this oppressive Like you sense of. Hey we're going to smile at you so hard to show you. In a way how restrictive this place is how it's ours not yours. I watched billionaires. I know through my research. Look with eager is like the is that Al Pacino uses in Donnie BRASCO. To look at the mob boss just wanting some member to give them the nod that they'll be able to come there and stuff And when you read the books about the starting of the the place in the culture and the legacy I did feel like well Gee Bob Jones says a lot more to answer for that and it and it felt to me like when you're writing a book about a black American that perhaps we all should always mention how tiger kind of stuffed their legacy in their face and why that makes it even more Even more of an incredible Thing that he came back to do this well Brian. I'm I'm with you and and I feel it as well. I can answer the Bob Jones spot in a minute. But just what what you're saying bring so much to mine too I feel the exact same way the other day I was driving. You know when when the when the pandemic CERTA broke open. I certainly did. I was north. I was in Greater Jacksonville Covering Golf Tournament. The Players Championship. I stirling didn't WanNa get on a plane. I certainly wasn't in a rush to get home so I made a meandering drive home in. I stopped at Augusta and I wanted to drop off. Actually a copy of the book for for a woman They're extremely helpful to me. And and I this is gonNA bring it to the Front Gate. Leave it there. Will they these bollards? That's eight pronounce that word that would prevent you from going down the driveway which they called magnate linked to the clubhouse right and I would have had absolutely no desire. I maybe in part because I've done it so many times in my life and I don't need to do it again to go down the driveway. The Magnolia Lane it in other words. It's uncomfortable for me and I guess a couple of times the first time I went there and think it was in nineteen ninety and in that period all the caddies for black you know maybe not every last one but pretty much and then carry the carrot. Just one golf bag and They wore these white coveralls. And it's uncomfortable. It's I'm not comfortable. There's there there is a feeling of the. I don't know plantation really but yeah but then in the in the book Bob Jones basically gets to say well. My grandfather wasn't racist and we kind of leave it there in a way. Well Bob Jones. The grandfather grew up in a time and place where you couldn't not be a racist Were right he was able to sorry. Career is so pervasive in his culture. You know it would be like if I look back. Some of the embarrassing things you know I appeared in likely said about Whatever I won't even really WANNA get into other words you you in high in our lives have evolved in terms of Orlando turnaround attitude about this issue that issue and and Jones Jones would have as well I to the very specific question. Here's an about Bob. Jones the fourth and using them in the book. Well here's a man who's who worships his grandfather who sees him Geraldo terms who's become a clinical psychologist who has probably many ways. The same similar skill set in terms of courtliness and looking at the big picture and he represents a tremendous over his grandfather while acknowledging Whose grandfather was let me. Just make a quick side trip here to a few years ago. I was writing about a man whose father was the first greenkeeper slash superintendent at Augusta Nash. And in that day the Dow the call the Superintendent of the back. Then they would've used the word greenkeeper and that's just the person who maintains the Gablers the And and they had a house on the golf course. So this man who's now in his late eighties. His backyard was the Augusta National. Course just as a quick aside when you think about where we are right down this weird moment the Augusta National Golf Course during World War. Two with imparted. The war effort was literally a cow pasture for the raising of cows. Get Milk there. Were Guard in other words it out. So what what we're going through is really unfortunate. But it's a blip compared to what your parents are arrested of a grid search in winter anyway. This man grew up with the Augusta. National Gablers says his backyard and he was friends with caddies gusts national and from the from the abutting neighboring Gusts National Exhibit Gusty Country Club. Many poor black and this man in our conversation used you know the most heinous were one of the most words if not in our language to describe is black friends and the question is for for me was. I wound up quoting A. That's my memory is that I did but it and Brian. You may not feel comfortable to all the What I'm going to say no stay. Please he was an ignorant man who grew up in time and a place and so a now Jones was not an ignorant man who grew up in time to place but he still but You know I mean. I grew up going to a conservative synagogue. Gum among out there was no room in For an openly gay person to say nothing of you know a a a a transgender person. Not In that community. Now it's of course of course Were you know the doors are open? We're all God's children. What did you wait? What town did you grow up on? Long Island in Patch on south struggle out. So I I guess I may get a broad allowance for evolution of thinking that I think I think to your specific question. I think Dr Bob. John's versus I think he's in incite. Both smart person who's watched who knows Jones's examples watch tiger closely and just offers insight. That might not have had myself or crystallized ideas might have myself so he was. He was helpful In that regard and I think L. represents You know what happens in in succeeding generations and curiously not to get too deep into the woods here. But you know. Many listeners would know that that Augusta national was founded by two men. Clip Roberts at Bob Jones and in a power struggle late in Jones's life cliff province froze out Jones and sort of really in in effect took over club himself. And I'M GONNA use the word again one of my golf heroes man named Sandy tatum. Prime would you? Would you be familiar with that name? I don't know that name. I I've read the read. The big amazing book about those two men and how they started Augusta. But I don't remember that name. Tell me you would send him his after them. He's he's Tom Watson. Sorta God father figure He was a line of of service former president of the US J. But Anyway but Sandy. Tatum wouldn't join Augusta national because Yeah because of how Clip Roberts handed handled Bobby Jones late Bobby Jones life anyway. I guess now the other day a guy Wonderful Nice story about being the bucket. At one of the things he said was bamberger. Doesn't do rage and it's interesting you know like when I wrote the book about night. One of the things he said was like you know. I'm mostly interested to hear your take my process in the united. Wow now I don't get that very often but I did get some of the guys. Bamberger doesn't do rage. I thought wow. That's really interesting sentence because like I don't really do raging. I know a lot of writers do and I just. I don't know I don't have the gene for I have more gene for. Let's try understand. Let's try to understand why people are the way they are. Sure I would. I would just say And again I want to restate how much I love. The book is a book. I know I'm going to read a second time and I don't read many books a second time. I WanNa read it again just to appreciate sort of the way that that It's written because it's written so beautifully up but but I would say the same way at Wallace tells that while Dave Ross tells that story About the water for me. The thing is your at an engulf. The water itself that that we don't notice is all of that stuff. And that's why I think that's why to me. The mere fact of when I was at Augusta I spent a lot of time watching Tilda When I was there I remember walking with tigers at a at Augusta. Unlike at the other majors so people know a most sports writers are not allowed inside the ropes. You have to watch from outside the ropes. You only at Augusta. You can't get inside the ropes right so at when I got to cover the PGA. At bethpage I was inside the ropes. Which was just mind. Boggling experience but at at Augusta was outside the ropes and it's very challenging to get looks at at at Where people are at a certain point I decided at our member. Cataldo was wearing these Meryl I remember the shoes that she was wearing. As an I remember thinking she Tigers mother is the kind of person who considered the terrain. She was going to be walking to follow her son. And I remember these black a certain kind of Merrill that I then bought. Actually I have them and I remember thinking okay. She bought these utility shoes to walk and follow her son with this sense of purpose in this environment. That did everything it could to keep people like them out. And I guess for that reason for me giving Bob Jones in the legacy of Bob Jones of a voice in judge the way you use them which is very effective in the book Sort of a standard and professional to talk about the mindset was an interesting choice a curious choice because he brings whether we want him to or not. He brings that legacy of exclusion to the table. And as and as you know Brian. This is an American thing this golf. This idea of Gov is a sport to two separate people were of course in Scotland it. Actually you know where the game was. Basically founded in nurture. Some people think it was actually in Halloween. That aside As a nice game but leaving that aside the It's a very egalitarian game. And they don't have. They have a handful of quote a League clubs but even those elite clubs are basically open to everybody on certain time so this has been an American a very unfortunate American development in the game when night hired Paul. Just just to go on your shoe thing about Tina for the night hired. Paul for lady in the water night was at a restaurant at pulse coming down a set of steps and he sees Paul's Super Sensible Brown shoe nights. Like that's my guy and this was point nights life. He could've literally her on. Hang Sir Tom. Cruise and a heart Paul Giamati and the thing that the trigger point for him was the ship. Okay that's one. Two regarding Tade interviews people have asked me what was the single most impressive thing to you about being at the two thousand nineteen ninety masters. I'll give you a slightly longer answer than what I typically do. Okay I happen to be by pure happenstance in downstairs. I was on the golf course. I like to be on the course but at some point you can't really see what you WanNa say so late on on that Sunday. I got myself into the house which I can do. Special Pass for that and a right next to me by coincidence. Was Cheetah Erica. Tigers Girlfriend Tigers. Two kids a guy named rob McNamara who wanted to write him people and various others so I was watching. Tv watching the tournament. And they're all sort of on edge and Tita is just sort of taking it all in. Then there's this woman probably in her bid seven is the trust berry sensibly Golf courses a challenging thing and she goes over this black chain. Well you know that you know the the the architecture you're out of the clubhouse you walk over this little on Jag over this black hang chain to sort of update. Let's the backyard of the club onto the golf course proper. She got over it with no problem at all in other words She had good bouncers Person Herself and then the single most powerful image of that entire tournament for me is. There's a little raised hill if you were looking at the green from coming up eighteen fairway and there's the green field to the left the Hillock let's call it on the on the left side and all these people around and tigers going to win the tournament and all hell's going to break loose and everyone's in that pre party mode like Times Square on New Year's night and they're ready to explode and I'm watching her watching tiger and she's just taking it in and she's still she's still and golf requires still so I don't recall the shoes but I can guess she's probably so wearing your black meryl's Or the barrel sped. But you know the whole the Meryl's that's the start of the of the the sense the center the whole whole sensible being. Well I love your. I love the love the The way the book talks about her So many of the things written about tiger ignore her and you really make it a point that he's as much her son. If not more than earl son. Yeah and and I think earl and Jeff and arm and do this extensively In their book. It's very easy to go down. Certain paths with Earl on for many many times or was a racist or always a misogynist. Earl was an asshole. Well if you ever were around earl entire together you can see it even some of the clips that he just on Youtube there was a deep loving relationship between the two and Just a great on end and I think as in by the way I got this from Arnold Palmer himself but I think it would have made up social himself. It's a tiger a long long time to bury her all. We don't know none of us know to what degree were playing or or working or writing. Whatever doing you know with some kind of nod or herons up trailer please. Our parents and when one of the things that made this victory so special was that it represented a post earl. Major the first really you could imagine. You could say Post-world major where he's doing it a while really for himself and with his kids watching and you know that's. I love that part of it too I really I really loved it Just a couple more things. This go longer than I thought. Michael because your book is so fascinating to me and So I I. I hope you're okay that we went a little bit over an hour here Two more this is the -cation Brian. Okay good good. I'm glad no I mean look. It's obviously the book like triggered a lot in me. Why does your loyalty as a writer? I I was so interested in how you wrote about Brandel Chamblee and Johnny Miller who I think to the most hot button figures in the sort of the world of golf and you made it a point to talk about how smart Brandel was and I thought it was interesting that you did that Sort of right in the shadow of brand having publicly been so wrong about something and in a way we would. I think hold an athlete to a different standard if they had just Missed the foul shots to win. the The championship and to me. Brandel like you know Show to air balls With no time remaining to lose the championship in The way he talked about you know the world's Best Golfer so talk a little bit about what what it is that you that you appreciate about these kind of commenters about the game. I don't do live to be. I'd be lousy at it but I would say of Brandon Johnny Miller or really anybody. Who's doing what you said earlier about When the writers asking Tiger about Sergio Anti Responses Golf's hard being commentators are too and I think you know you're you're on a tight rope and you're gonNA blow some you're GonNa get you're GONNA get some wrong and As long as you are authentic about what you're to do I'm basically by with it. Now if you're just doing it to be provocative well that's disgusting. But I don't believe brand-new zone. I think brand Brendel gets things wrong. He gets a lot right. And but basically as a you know a Berry informed knowledgeable caring Gulf Burson and Now if I ever thought he was being Second being provocative topic different feeling that I I don't have that and Johnny Miller is brand old times three because Johnny Miller. He is not. I have not using this in a lightweight using lightweight. And I don't intend to but it's almost like he's on the spectrum for golf in other words he just understands golf you know. He may not understand the personalities. He just knows what it's like to try to win. And those words like to lose and he knows what that ball sitting in that line is going to do and he knows that it's hard and he brings all that too. And so you know I love Tim Carver when he used to baseball because he had that same quality. You know he's actually been there. He knows how hard it is. And we don't and he's subscribing to So do do you find that my view of Brando Su Su general or to accepting. I know I'm sort of fascinated by by brandel. I think he is really smart. I really I have a different take Johnny Miller than you do for me in the last ten years of his broadcasting career I think he got off on being extra negative in a way and I think that look. I think all the golf experts. The I'm going to at some point. Have the time to do this but I I will say I remember very clearly. When tiger became a declared that he was a pro and made the tour was going to go. And play those seven tournaments. They asked like one hundred figures in either in golf or Golf Digest. They asked like a hundred golf figures. How Tiger was going to do many golf writers and when he would win his first major and stuff and everyone was in a little box there was like the face of the guy who said it and then a little box and every single person predicted it would be years ended. He was much. Were like all. The experts thought it was impossible. And I've spent a lot of my life Railing against the supposed gatekeepers and experts. In in my world you know mice foundational stories that rounders rejected by every agent. I've lived this over it and you know Tracy Chapman who I worked when I was young was rejected by every label. And so I've lived this over and over again watching the experts not want to accept this the newcomer into In into their world. And so in a in a way watching brand all talk about Brooks because Brooks Also like tiger wasn't going to play the game in the language that Brando grew up wanting to put on the game but Brooks is entire approach. And so yes I felt by the third major brandel should just shut the fuck up and go. This is a game. I know that comment. He's playing a game. I don't recognize I would much rather brand will say I don't know I don't understand what this guy's doing but obviously he's beyond what I can understand so I'm gonNA sit back and watch. I would have preferred that purse. I had a very similar moment. Where he'll brand logo crazy about the position of Tigers right-foot in follow and it's like Brando disguise when fifteen majors in eighty two championships must be doing a lot right. That's listen that's a great place unless there's anything you want to cover that so if you don't mind I if you mind Brian you don't WanNa go this way. I totally understand. Let's keep going. I'm happy to talk. What would you like to still? What would you like to achieve the game? And you're in your own life as somebody who plays someone watches as someone who writes. Well I find golf so hard fit and while making the TV show. It's really difficult to become decent added again. I was never as good as human. I got my the highest. The Best I ever was was an eleven point three index. So that's not really a good Golfer. That's just somebody who can break ninety basically And I played to that for a number of years but I can't play to it anymore What I loved his last summer. I played out in the Hamptons at a public or I went to the Hamptons and friends took me to incredibly Nice Golf courses but the best times I had were when my son and I would just walk to pox bog the nine hole par through. We would just carry our bags. Neither of US likes using a poll cart. We would carry our bags and walked two or three loops there and honestly that experience which is closest to the Shiva's irons experience. In a way you're carrying your own bag your plan on a place. That isn't really manicured her. That nice there's the stakes are the says you say even poxy where when you come to a sixty three yard par three and you know you should be able to hit your sixty degree to ten feet. You find your and your son says to you bucks closest to the hole and you stand over the ball and you've practiced a lot with that club for this spot in fact at your go club. Let's say and you skull it you. You understand it hurts. It could hurt and bother me for three days and because it's a lack of mastery over the self. It is a lack of mastery over your emotions. It is a lack of mastery over. It means something is not aligned. It you were not able to perform up to your capability when pressure was on the line. And what it makes you do. It makes you ask Yourself Golf. Makes you ask yourself very difficult questions? If you're willing to ask yourself those questions and I think your book does a great job of talking about the questions. That Tiger Woods was asking himself as he was trying to see if he could do this again. And it does a good job of asking us all some difficult questions about our own Engagement with that journey and yourself personally. I think with Your own questions about that journey. Because for instance you I would have liked. I would have liked one more. I want to ask you this so you talk about how the cops are known to let people go sometimes in that community. And you don't really ask the question of whether or not they would let Greg Norman go in that same spot and I wonder what you think if Greg Norman off to the side I know you think those officers were heroic and I in a good way. You point out if they acted in a bunch of different ways to think could've turned tragic in different ways could have absent because we've seen it. We know that we know that it does. Yeah what do you think Greg? Norman is over to the side of the road like that. And those officers approach him. Do you think Greg Norman gets arrested that night? Well Greg Greg Norman. In one thousand nine hundred eighty seven. There's no way they're driving home sleep. Sleep it off buddy. Make sure you don't do it again. A Greg Greg Norman. Two thousand seventy. I think this in this particular community I think people are GonNa think it's much more but by the book. I think that's their training. You know I think People are our children's age with kids the same age They just grew up with a different game. My other goal in the game is to somehow find a way to Be invited to join the membership it at National Golf at the National Golf Club which I know is impossible goal. That's my that's my other by other goal is But I'm pretty sure it's not gonNA happen in. You're right you're writing like what would you? What would you like golf to place a big? Listen Michael I I love golf. I want to be able to get good at it again. I love walking. A golf course It it always features in our writing Golf makes their references and allusions to golf throughout you know as you know in in billions we reference it and we reference various different Golf Clubs Reference Golf modes. Because I like you. I do believe it is a real test of character. Michael What do you think? And this was where we'll wrap up and do you think that Two things together. Do you think a career like yours is possible for someone starting out today in the world of writing about Athletic Endeavors Ken. Someone STARTING OUT TODAY. Build a life with The same kind of toolkit you started out with in that world and do you think that the place. The Tiger Woods fills in in sport Can come about again. In the in the way the landscape currently exists. I do think to the to the first question I do think the answer is yes. Now when when you were coming up as a writer and writing rounders the idea this episodic series of very complex storytelling like billions. Didn't really exist. I don't think it it developed you developed with it and you found a way to do the things you love to do well in in in a new format so it might be different than it is now but I think broadly speaking yes definitely I think people love to read. People love to be transported just as people love to get high and get drunk to be transported. They look to re to get transported and be inspired and so yes think it might take. It might take a different form but I think it written the written word will definitely survive and thrive no matter what the delivery system is and Tiger Woods The same Because you know there was the boys in the boat you know. We probably didn't know anything about that until that book is written there was sea biscuit. There was Tiger Woods After Tiger Woods there's some twelve year old soccer player in Chile. Now that we know nothing about is going to be tiger the tiger woods of soccer or football and so yes. I don't I think there will be other other examples of it in other sports golf and the only thing I would have about that. Is that for my for my to combine shootings by here at the end. Is that a my own writing. I'll always be every bit as interested in earning houses and the people who are that close and can't really get there now. I gotTa know it's well just to be that close and not really get there as you know we're looking for moments or character reveals itself and and the character gets rebuild itself more efficiently and and more deeply in that by not winning then went perfectly. Said Hey Michael. I'm about to sign off before I do. Do not close your browser until it says. It's uploaded your audio to me. That's how I get the higher quality audio so we're going to hang for a second after I stopped okay. Hey Michael Bamberger I WanNa thank so much for writing this book. First of all I wanNA thank you for your courtesy to me at the master's you're Very welcoming to me in in Your your world when when I showed up there and You're great writer. You're writing inspiration to me. You've written a couple of books that will always stay on my bookshelf. And thanks for that and I will take you up on your offer to go play. Your golf course Because I I had to To childcare the last time you invited me and I couldn't go kizer Grownups now so I can definitely I can definitely come down Jessica. Thank you Brian. Who was a pleasure? Let's GO I. Everybody read Michael's book Second Life Tiger Woods. It is outstanding. If you WANNA find me on social media at Brian Koppelman at twitter. You can email made a moment G. dot com. All right. Take Care Bye.

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The Highest Stakes for Masters Takes

"Oh, look at Boston. We'll time and look at this stuff that they that they probably some of it's like absolutely stupid. But some of his section quite Quentin. Amusing and stuff like that is what we need to get people to attract people to to the game of gold. Nice to be your boys. Congratulations on your doing. Mediocre as it is epilepsy. This year, I'm very much thinking about getting. So I give that you put together. Thank you. Tell nutrition. Hey, greg. I don't butter knife, my wedge like. Younger hip or. Barstools four Tigers had the three back surgeries. He's had one fusion. We welcome in from barstool sports rigs and Trent guys, welcome to the show or blades are stool sports. It is officially masters time. It's not even masters week. It is masters time. You are listening to this. It is Thursday a masters has pretty much begun the best week of the year. It's not even close even beyond the master's. I mean, Frank huge islanders fan. I'm a big Blue's fan. We are recording us, of course on Wednesday. Neither of those teams have played yet. Frankie's the game tonight. If you're listening to this right now, which I know you are the islanders have already played their first game. And people are I mean, depending on when you are listening to it and people are just teeing off at Augusta. This is a fucking hell of a day. Boy, isn't that crazy out there right now, you were having an unbelievable experience where you're just on the internet or you're on TV. And you're just watching people play golf at Augusta National. It's amazing. It's an amazing thing. We got a lot to get to a lot has happened since a day or. And a half ago when we did our show at three AM on Monday nights last Tuesday morning. What are you guys usually saying, that's Trish, do you say you did it Monday night or you say Tuesday morning. Well, we did it at such time where I think you gotta say Tuesday morning someone I think marina was like how come you guys? Did it so early and I was like well fuck you. We did it late. We did it late. We did it unbeliev did it late. But it was Tuesday day. Why did you do it so early like as if like, oh, it's the crocodile? And let's go do the fucking podcasts. No. I just like I looked into the night. Did you hear that? Was that was that my headphone that was the on leave -able noise out of here. Yeah. No giddy. But yeah, it was it was it was definitely lately. I still haven't recovered like one forty five until three fifteen in the morning or something like that however long. We did it. So I I guess I don't know if you say, I don't know what you're saying morning figured out. Anyways, you know, who's got it figured out supreme golf spring office the best we actually just books some times playing a little golf. On Saturday morning. We're going to be done by around noon. The second. You asked me if I want to play golf, I said. Oh, yeah. And then my elbow started to hurt. Oh, no. 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I think it's partial where we've got the code somebody figure that out for me where we've got the. They're doing the whole thing where they're giving away a thousand dollars like ten times which ten thousand dollars between. Now, I believe in like August. I I don't have all that in front of me. I'm pretty sure that's correct. Somebody can corrrect me. If I am wrong. Love spring golf masters a ton to get to Atanas happened since the since the last time that we spoke which I said earlier was just like a day and a half ago before we get to that want to mention that I'm currently getting viral cut to the internet and not happy about it getting what viral cooked. That's a hell of a term. Somebody tweeted my tweet, Frankie, my sunscreen tweet somebody tweeted at verbatim yesterday. He's got like a hundred and twenty thousand likes ho, but you were way more than that. Where you? Yeah. But it's it's been half a day. The guy's already got that many. How long did it take yours to take off like that? I mean, less than like, maybe three or four hours and started going crazy. But still it's not like I mean, he's going to get thousands of impression and likes impressions, you know, where you go. Mm viral cuck for sure and you are right that there's nothing you can do about it. People are trying to tell me that. He's a tweet decker is a I go through the time line. He's got he's a what if people tweet deck sleep decker people were like tweeden. These terms at me like this is a common thing. He's one of these people who this is like a this is a strategy that people employ if you go through his time line like every couple of days, he tweets all he does is. He just literally copy pays the exact caption in like video that has gone viral in the past, and he just goes viral fifty thousand retweets on everything that he puts folks we call that stealing. I don't know about tweet decker or all the terms of throwing at you. But that's just stolen stolen stuff. It's viral cooking viral fucked. That's a good turn for two. There's nothing I can do. I can't do you feel you feel like you are adding to it by giving him attention. Virus got one hundred ten thousand likes. What what do you mean? Will you being like look at this guy? Who's doing this thing to me? I think is going to make him go even more viral by okay by a couple thousand or something at the point when he's getting a hundred and fifty thousand I can't not comment. I mean when he passed let people walk into your house and steal all your shit and go why don't want to say, I don't wanna draw morte. I've let shit now. This can't be the first time. This has happened. What for someone stealing that tweet? But nobody's gone viral with it. I see I mean, I don't know what I don't know. What you can do you're supposed to just be okay with this is crazy. Well, I don't know what you can do about it. But bring attention to it seems like a weird idea. So you're saying all the guy out for being gonna go to his this new guys tweet and just like the shit out of it, and re tweet it I think making it a bigger deal is definitely going to make much bigger. But you, but you don't have any principal ignored the shed of this, dude. He can't just stand by and give viral. I don't understand that you have no principle behind you whatsoever. Not with no feels great to call this guy out as a fraud. I'm responding to his tweets, I'm fucking. Numbers. You're it's going to be those couple thousand maybe the fucked over. I this is crazy to me in my opinion. You have to be out there defending yourself. You have to be out there calling this guy of fraud, a thief, some people believe have been calling him plagiarizing, Mike, even though his name champagne, Mike, he's pretty good play drowsy, Mike this fucking guy. Champagne, Mike is driving me. Crazy. Can't he also he's just ignoring me? And then he's mocking me. And some of his response tweets. Oh, really? Yeah. He's. Yeah. It's a game to him. Now. He also he tweeted at seven forty eight PM about sunscreen apply. He goes some do. Just call me put sunscreen, put on sunscreen at eight o'clock at night. It's not a thing. Yeah. Yeah. He's an amazing. He's very much just in it for the numbers. Fucking garbage sky is garbage. It's frustrating. Anyways masters, Augusta National Tiger Woods. We gotta talk about this. Jack, nNcholas this quote kinda going viral today tiger. Of course, it's the master race talking about Tigers won their four times hasn't won a major in eleven years. Just crazy town this guy. John St. stretch tweeted out, Jack Nicklaus on golf channel. I've never seen tiger this confident. I've played with him three weeks ago. He shot the easiest sixty four I've ever seen with total ease no effort he hit every single fairway. I see what you're doing. Jack nicklaus. I see right through. Okay. Everybody is going to be piled on him. Be like, oh my God. I Jack is saying such nice things about tiger. This is great one goat to another. Keep saying these things all I love the tires plan. One. I love the Jack sought I see. Right. Fucking through Jack Nicklaus. We are on Jack Nicklaus. Really? Is that what we're doing? Right. That's how I feel as soon as I heard this. I knew what he was doing. You know, how I feel right now. No. Offense to Jack Nicklaus. But fuck Jack Nicklaus Halsey what he's out here doing. I see what he's doing. But comment is this? This is very little finger ask is that what you're saying xactly every tournament with this guy's talking about how perfect Tiger Woods. Oh, he looks perfect. I don't even know next thing. You know, he's going to be like, you know, what it's impossible for tiger not to win the masters. It's impossible. And then everybody's going out there talking. Oh tiger's playing perfect expectations. The bar goes higher and higher and higher pressure gets hired higher and higher. It becomes significantly harder for our guy to perform. Meanwhile, Jack's over here drop these comments he knows they're going viral knows we're going to tweet about it. We're gonna Instagram about them. And then he's just gonna he's just going to slink into the corner and laugh as tiger like sh- finish his even par fifteen shots. Patrick, ry, sixty four I've ever seen total ease no effort, the no effort by the people who are buying this hook line cigar gonna sit there and tell me the guy with eighteen majors one of the greatest champions of all time is talk. The guy who potentially could pass him the only guy in the world who could pass him potentially. He's going to sit there. And be like, oh, yeah. He's playing great. I'd love to see it. Keep winning keep shooting effortless. Sixty four's get the fuck out of here. What does that no effort what he was sitting in the car and he just hit the ball sixty four two hundred. The only thing that brings me comfort is knowing that tiger knows what Jack is what Jack's doing Tigers. Sees that in is like all right, buddy. Like, I know what you're doing fuck that tiger reason he goes fucking guy. Yes. That's what he says. Definitely this fucking guy. Right everybody. Like, I said, everybody's like all this is such a nice thing. I love seeing this tiger is this fucking guy after this conversation you and I had this conversation before the show, and you opened my eyes to it. And I decided then I have to change my caption on my Instagram. I instigated the quote cla- fell right into the bears trap Ryan fucking tragedy. That's what I would have felt that trap too. But you gotta turn you turn my fucking you turn my head around so fast that you like I was ready to say, Jack Nicklaus. Like, I want to go like give them a fuck and Kelly dapper right now, we almost should've let me have that one. We should've walked him into it. I know, oh, we could have held us hearing about how good Tigers looking going into this fucking weeK'. Why don't you want to hear that? But then now. Now that you've exposed him. You've exposed all Jack, we could've taken a nice little piece of salmon and Luigi right into the old bear trap their Frank. You would've Buchan and tried it on the seat where like is. Jack Nicklaus sandbagging tiger. Kinda come as he shot the easiest sixty four I've ever seen. Oh, really that you've ever seen Jack Nicklaus. Your fucking nine years old. You've been playing golfer a hundred years as the easiest one you've ever seen. Jack nicklaus. I that's. I can't believe he's trying. He's doing this. I can't either. But I'm glad that we are part of the truth. And we are part of the light. We can shine it on this this whatever this is. And you know, this is ugly. So Jack Nicklaus. Yeah. It's ugly. So fucking better than this. He can't be doing this. So I never like how much more respect and how much more interesting. Would it be? If he was like, all right. Yeah. He shot a sixty four he looked. Okay. But you know, what tiger is getting up there in age might not be able to do it for that long. And he's probably not going to get to my record. And fuck him like that would have been so much better. And that'd be bolted board material tiger Panetta up there right next to the to the records, and he would it would inspire. Mid fire them up mean. Oh, yeah. The bare just being like easiest sixty four I've ever seen foreseen. Are you fucking kidding, right? He's trying to lull tiger into a false sense of comfort. No, no, no Tigers not buying that. But not us and not tiger. He's he's one step away going. Oh, what he finished dead last. Yeah. Hurt. He had a good day, though, one step away from that out of here Jacqueline another thing. We talk about the tiger logo. On Tigers shirt. I think he calls it Frank. What's that about? I think he calls his head covering now. He has the time cover, which is awesome. Awesome to mazing. Awesome. Fluffy, est thing I've ever seen. They asked about a shirt is so fluffy. I bet that then call I bet that was like a five thousand dollar had come. It'd be surprised that there's actual tiger like for on that day. Scott to be right. I shouldn't say that goes on some big game hunting. You don't think that there's like tiger for on the inside of that? Right. Because you know, he doesn't wanna get with pita and all this shit. The inside of that fucking Frank. Is that what we're calling it calls? It frankly, set Frank you had did you you gotta see the interaction between the reporter asked this question. And tiger goes what's on your shirt is when he was during the press conference wearing the Frank shirt. I guess we're calling it like you said and the guy goes, whoa. What's on your shirt there? And he goes, oh, that's my head cover Frank. And the poor goes what? Tiger puts on one of his big old grins. And it goes it's Frank like he's expecting the room to to laugh when the reporter goes. Oh, okay. And then that's it. You know, what this means for me? Right. No. I mean, this is an icebreaker I've ever seen one for when I meet Tiger Woods give it to me. What are you gonna say? Hey tiger huge fan. Everything. You do. I think is godly, and I look up to you like your Saint. And by the way, my name's Frank, you know, like your head cover. I love era. You know, like you say my name your whole life. You guys are best spreads tiger. I feel like I know you have on your club for the fuck capacity twenty years, the reminded me of the Billy Madison or he's wearing Frank shirt is like, oh, no I got their shirt from Frank. And then he pulls it up and it says Frank. That's just what that reminded me of. But Frank, I guess it's strange that. Well, first of all, I would like to know how many of these shirt they sold it one day. I can sell a billion of them and to how you not heard about Frank before. Did he think of Frank Reich on the spot? I think we have it just didn't pick up much. Steam felt like when he said that that I'd heard that before I just didn't really remember it. But how cool shirt it's cool shirt. I'm into the shirt, she has like the shirt love the shove the shirt, which we thought of a shirt like that. He played with kids today who's growing one hell of a beard came out of nowhere where the hell death income from. I've never seen him with the beard, unless I never really paid attention. You looked like Webb Simpson. And it was like oddly like he like he's trying to really have it to find going down. He didn't let it just like ruffle like down his neck. It's like it stops draw a line. So he's like he's trying to look like trying to get fit off. It's a miss beers. Amid his is trying to get a fit. I mean, I'm I'm not wanna to be throwing shade of beards right now because I'm going through something that is kind of tough shape beards. Five o'clock shadow doing there. Let's go. Hell, yeah. I mean, not throwing shit destroyed. My elbow. Come kelly. Sent the shocked way, you wouldn't believe by the way, we're missing radio right now. How do you think that's going? Not great. You think Dave in us right now, we're in the other room recording this amazing podcast talking about the mass as in the room next to us. Just fucking. We're do or do up for it. Because we got a big compliment yesterday on the radio. Have you heard this trend? Oh, I saw the executive quote Dave said that he was so excited. And so like impressed. I guess I didn't say these things, but he was so impressed. I I would assume with with us getting in so late at three o'clock in the morning recording. The first po- podcast that he was going to send out a company wide Email talking about how that's what you're supposed to do here. Like people forget to work. And by the way, the Email never got down. Now, I checked for every two seconds all night that Email coming in to come in. Yeah, you're right. We are due for one of that. Because like, yeah, he builds the Bill builds up, and you gotta get ready to get body slammed. Probably currently having right now. Like your goddamn, Trent slumber. Yes. Bodies just comes into your room and slams down after giving you a cop. We are. We're doing this. They radio because Frankie has to go straight to the Coliseum. The Cali for the game. We're not to be able to later. So boom here we are record the podcast kids. And it's weird beard played retire today. I thought it looked pretty good. Yeah. I think it's a side angles weird. I thought the side angle like Frankie said we're kind of really shows he's really grinding over like the definition like he had to pull out some movie star looked for the fuck masters. I thought was just not kids and he has to be thinking I didn't have a beard. I haven't had a beard in years past at the masters so now and I never once. So now, maybe if I grow on this'll be like the story that lifts me above and gives me a chance of this week. Maybe it's just playoff beard. Yeah. Talk is season of off season. You know, he played with tiger today, which is very cool. A couple of picks them walking around laughing together. I texted kids. I said say sup too tight t w for me he said ten four. And then I said are you serious? He was like, no. And then I said how's it playing out there today? He said long slow wet solit- formation everybody out there. And then I said any chance you wanna come through the podcast this evening. I bet it's a hardcore. No. And he goes no chance. And then I said, okay. But if you win make me a deal that you'll come on after you at and he goes, you can come on Kimmel with me. Oh, so if he wins. Okay. I'm gonna hold them up to the fire and say, you said, I could come on Kimmel with you. I like it. That's the that's our inside information from Kevin cancer. That's a massive for you. No chance comes on the podcast. But you're going Kimmel. That's what we got to work. And then I said, you got yourself a deal. You never responded, which leads me to believe that. He was just kidding. Yeah. No. You're not going to be on Kimmel. That's the inside information. I got from kids tiger also had unreal. Quote. He said that they asked him if he needed to win it Gusta. He said I don't need to win at Augusta. But I really want to which got everybody pretty fired up really fired up. And then he did go on to clarify about needing to win at Augusta in the past which I thought was actually very interesting. You would think someone specially tiger. He kind of gives a lot of PR answers. Everybody knows that. They asked him. I have you ever felt like you like needed to win here before? And he said yeah twice. Actually, he said the first time was ninety seven he had the I believe nine shot lead going into the final round. That's of course, the year that he won by twelve shots in his first official major as a as a pro. And he said that night Saturday night. I knew I had to win. I just needed to win. You can't not wait in that situation. He said the year before of course, Greg Norman had blown believe it was a six shot lead that Greg Norman had blown in ninety six Tigers. Like I needed to win that masters, and then the other one, of course, which is another great answer. Very interesting insight was him saying that he had to win in two thousand one if people remember he had won the US open at Pebble Beach by fifteen shots. He won the British Open at Saint Andrews by eight shots. He wanted hollow the PGA championship in an epic play-off over Bob. May that was the part where he chased the ball into the hole almost got to the whole before the fucking ball pointed and then ended up beating them in the playoffs. So he won three major championships on ROY. Oh, there's like an eight or nine month layoff between the next major. All the hype endless endless hype said he got asked the question every fucking event that he played at because I had to win that one. And I did. And that's of course, the Tiger Slam. So pretty fucking legendary answers to be honest with you had to win the one when I was up by nine and I had to win the one to win all four in a row. It's such a power answer. But it's true, right? Yeah. No, I had to win the he's got he's got the stripes in the medals to talk like that. But it's just an insane. Couple of scenarios where like I have to win these because the it's such a huge deal for for everyone involved. If I do or I don't both of those things are so far fetched now like to imagine someone doing that. Now is so outrageous. I imagine someone having a nine shot lead on Saturday at Augusta. No. And then imagine someone and that's the first major that they've ever played in as a pro now, and then a maverick some folks going on right now. Who the hell is this Ryan Johnson? That's just absolutely tearing up the field guys like nineteen years old. What is he doing out there? And then imagine a guys coming off of three majors in a row that he's won by a combined twenty four shots. And then it's like, oh, I had to win that one because I just dominated the whole fucking world so badly for the last three that had to inform her Okoye, literally the only human being who's been in those positions had to do it. We agree. He's like, you know, y'all know when you're in a situation like that, you just gotta wins. Like, no one knows what you're talking about. Right. No one's ever been in. That's what he you talk. Which does make a cool that he talked about it and like those things. No, it is a very it's very interesting and intriguing insight because you don't think you're usually going to get it from tiger. And I know that's not relatable to anyone else. Ever. Never like do. We have to get to this next one. Or can we skip right over it? I mean, why would you even put that in here? Look I like to provide all the information. Here's a fuck. I'm not gonna say this. There's a word in here. There's a sentence in here that we can't say. You want to skip it. I mean, we'll go out does so Humphries all the go just let's just get through. This is what happened. This is Tiger Woods speaking. I just can't practice like I used to. He said at Tuesday at the masters by back gets sore. I just can't log the time that I used to. And that goes with every part of my why would he say that? Now, why would you say the words my back get sore that won't hurt that hurts that should be bleeped out of this guy. Dan fucking show. We should be like the North Korean tiger. We should end machine and my back at soy sore. We should literally Jake Dr up that part when I read that quote and have tiger come in at some part where he says backfield's great. My back feels great. I just can't log in the Tonto coast because me say tiger said my and then just cut in backfield's great. And then it's like reading everyone knows. It's definitely. Oh, yeah. For sure he's back Jit Kim Jong. No, that's that's definitely. So not what you really want to hear. But when you wanna hear when you know that like he we wanted to be Terminator I wanted to be built out of machinery, I want him to be looking at people. I wanted to be the night king walking around with smoke. And and and rising from the ashes I don't wanna hear about soreness. I don't want to hear these take an Advil and stuff like that's like old man shit. Like, I'm so right now, I don't wanna tiger tiger's sword the same time at the message. I'm absolutely with you. So look, hopefully, I in I don't want to talk about this either. But the biggest the number one negative that our guy brand continues to harp on whenever they bring up tiger on live from coverage to do all the time because he's Tiger Woods is that he thinks if anything old tiger back. It'll be as putting so the sword as he says he can't practice much. Hopefully, that's not true. He's just saying that to kind of like reverse psychology, Jack Nicklaus with his fucking head games. He's playing and if there's anything to focus on hopefully tiger parts well because he's hitting the ball. Great. Which is awesome. Tee times. I wanna say tiger tees off at eleven o four Thursday, which is perfect. Absolutely perfect. Means he'll be done should be done by for clock. Which is when we radio, so hopefully, I can sit there and watch every fucking shot that guy hits. And then he tees off at one something on on Friday, which is also great for the average person because that Friday afternoon, the masters, you know, you work from nine or ten in the morning until two o'clock, and then you to spend the entire rest of the afternoon doing fuck and nothing male time, you just mailed in and you watch the masters you watch tiger finish up. It's going to be just talking about it. It's so delightful. He's with that psychopath. Lunatic, Jon Rahm, and then how Tong Li is as pairing. They're the featured group on Thursday, which is great masters dot com. Best website ever created. I believe anybody got anything else on that on that front. Ti- times. We have to talk about that. Now. Right. The other week my family, and I had a bit of a scare midnight. The cops rang our doorbell. A neighbor had called them figuring. 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We get sent because the look on his face as always like he's just about to start saying something vague that is like positive about tiger. But veiled enough that he's still trying to present himself as a journalist. He's feeling good. He's feeling good. Tigers feeling good feeling goods. I one on their education. Tigers feeling good. Yeah. I know this because I was. Buddy. He's failed. Consist of text tell you I feel like I'm doing good. I think. Tiger. He gets up close and personal and like hangs out with a tiger. How are you feeling? It looks like I'm feeling good. Notre writes it down a little note the note as I say that's a whole segment for me when do that on the channel? Don't tigers. You're not. Larry looks at his phone is like I wrote it down before let me just tell you the quote feeling good. That's from Tiger Woods. Hey, tell you what are your backyard greens role in what what's couple question is that these are another couple of great notifications that we got his backyard greens rolling at fourteen to fifteen on the stent meter, and then third notification that that we, you know, log for this is that tiger shipping area is so firm, and I it's like eighty. That these are quotes that are just set out loud amongst group of people that know literally is writing into his notes on his own. So Tigers chip or is like man is think feels like concrete, and literally goes his nose is like he's chipping on an area that feels like concrete and someone was like tiger. What's that thing rolling is like are they like a fourteen or fifteen like Tigers backyard? Green is rolling on a fourteen v. His justice. Ryan, it's just as best friend that what are you doing? They're working hard grind. To bring up another Billy Madison thing. But when the the bad guy pays the janitor like spy, and he's like miss Lippi's car is green the exact same thing than hundred percent perfect. Her car is green. And then the guy's like, oh my God. That's like the rest of the people on the live coverage are like oh my God. He's talking about concrete and the chipping of brand new Duval God. Here's here comes another notification about his fucking concrete cream when you're that close to Tiger Woods, we getting a level of insight that like you can't get anywhere else. Right. Like, this is his this is why not is in our world is to be Tiger Woods as guy notifications. We should be getting things from him that like holy fuck. Like this is coming from camp tiger. Like, did you hear this like he needs to win this because he's coming after Jack like all he sitting around a fire, and he's sipping on fucking cognac. And he's looking out at like raise creek, and he's going to drop a deuce on that thing because I'm want to own this place this week. I want from Notre instead what we give them. Not is good tiger to be honest with you guys. I spoke with him this week. He's never swung freer. It's been years. Since he's swung this freely. He's been smiling a lot I know that from hanging around his house. He's been smiling. And to be honest with you, I've never seen tiger this happy and swinging this freely. He said to me directly that he feels really good his greens are like cog. It's like not. You're not fucking saying anything nothing nothing. It's real. Defensive. Notre he's kind of putting an impossible situation because if he were to give those little bits of information, the Frankie once he would be kicked out of the circle so fast, and he wouldn't he wouldn't exist. So we have to play by Tigers rules to even get us. Like, oh, it's it's hitting off like concrete, and he's feeling good. So we won all this juicy information. But to get that you have to say once if you're not of any kicked out, and you never get any information again. So I'm I love where route notable gay. I love the updates. He gives. I will. I will always love them. And I hope he keeps bringing when they panned him at onset at any tournament that Tiger Woods teeing it up in. I laugh out loud. Amaze the second they pan to just laugh out. Here we go. Phil Mickelson a lot of big stuff from Phil kind of really recirculating the entire story a day and a half ago. And it's just there's just not there's so much shit has so much stuff. He's recirculating this entire story. That Jay go in story. Of course, if you listen to last week's podcast, but your show we've ever done most coverage. Ever gotten from a from an episode of foreplay from really anything that four plays. Don was of course, this Jake Owen story about going up to fill Jordan speech, wedding talent, we wanted his money back for the match with tiger. And Phil saying here's one hundred go fuck yourself all time all time quote. It's just been going nuts that story well fills shows up to the driving range, okay? On tuesday. He's warming up on the range. He's got a one hundred dollar Bill hanging out of his pocket on the range. Now, some people were like, oh, what a coincidence what he fucking stupid. Not coincidence. You think this is a work you'd think the guy never in his career? Have I ever seen him? Walk onto the driver engine have a hundred dollar Bill hanging out of his pocket. He's goofy. Phil mickelson. He loves shit talk. And he loves rub it at any lives for that stuff. That's where he's most like most famous for outside of the golf is be having that kind of personality. This story goes crazy viral. He confirms it on Twitter and then shows up like that. And everyone thinks or some people think it's a coincidence. Fuck outing the hundred dollar Bill wasn't even close to not. Hanging out of his pocket Iraq like it wasn't like a wind blew and he kinda hit it with his arm. That thing was falling out, regardless of if he moved at all I I bet he stood right in front of them here before he walked outside gave it that perfect hanging out spot. Did a couple stretches like this is going to stay here. Right. But it's going to hang out and then walked out and did that and it couldn't have been better. It was all time. And then he gets asked about it in the presser. We'll put this clip right here too. Until I had a good laugh about the g go in store and Christie can just tell us your sided, and what happened about the what store in but the Jordan's wedding about the. Oh, yeah. No. It happened. Exactly. Like you said. Yeah. Jake nail remained Rickie Fowler. And I were talking. He was right, there ain't gotta bunch of buddies. I nothing on eat. You know from Joe awful that and I kinda shot down. So. Yeah. So he gets asked about the story in the preser- confirms one hundred Marseille confirms even advocated flair to the story, I'm standing there. Talking to Ricky Fowler. Jake was kind of you know, he's a precedent couple of his buddies. And I had to kind of shut it down a bit. Just phenomenal stuff from Phil Mickelson again. This sort of recirculated the entire story. Once again, I just like the idea of story being told from this shit piece of shit office. That's horrible it smells like shit. It's covered in shit. And then it gets all the way a thing that was in this room gets taken all the way down. To the Augusta media center where it's pristine everything's perfect. We know everything about that. That's the beauty of the thing that we do whether three time champ has to talk about it in their pristine media center. Something that legitimately was created from thin air in this room, right right in this room. It's really amazing. It's an amazing. Why look me in the eyes and told me that he wanted to like basically seduce me with his stories, and I just couldn't get out of his little web that God Jayco. And I love them, you think about how think about how I still think about the way he he looked into my eyes. He's like I'm going to tell you this story, and you're just gonna come for rod. That's what he said to me with his is never never verbally and you dig over if you have a chance to go see Jayco, and in person and hear his voice in person. I mean, you have to run to that opportunity because he is he could be oh, he could be a preacher and the guy Carl Lenzerheide pass, and they're gonna fucking put Jayco and up there with the guitar and tell them golf story would dust that guy. I'd sign up for that Colt. Guitar right. I came in for fucking our, and he's all over the news because of our awesome us. Oh, kidding me. He's crazy. I didn't have a more than hour. With them. Augusta National chairman Fred Ridley had some interesting comments about the course luck Augusta nationalist is itself. The golf course is just as interesting and intriguing as the actual masters golf tournament if not more. So he there's been a lot of chatter about lengthening. They they did. Of course, lengthened number five is everybody knows that about forty yards. That was actually breaking news on this podcast when Kevin Kisner was on. Yeah. If you remember that he said, oh, yeah. I played Augusta couple of days ago. It's four ninety five now on number five that's an automatic bogey for me is what he said. So that was breaking news here, but they did that and they added a couple of feet to the back right portion of the eighteenth green. I believe it's going to be very miniscule people won't really notice it. But but that that is a thing that happened that changed the eighteenth green a little bit. And they have very got a lot of notoriety in the last year. So that Augusta did purchase land behind the thirteenth from Augusta country club, which the two of them are Borderie other. They purchased a bunch of land. The thought process is that the thirteenth hole. Maybe the best hole in the world. Lot of people find that to be one of the greatest holes on planet earth, the dogleg left par five with the tributary there to raise creek running right across the front of it. Just an all time off whole we've seen it in person out to brag, it's even better in person. Also, imagine that that whole which I think is only like five fifteen or something like that five hundred and five yards. It's legit like twenty or thirty yards shorter than the par four level that they're going to life in that. Because it doesn't play the same way that used to you see some guys if they really bomb. One wanna move it hardcore right to left. They have like nine hundred into that green baba hit one when he beat speak down the stretch that year he hit one like he legit had like a pitching legend his hand. He came out. Fred Ridley came out the chairman of the national today. Mid corner is a sacred place in the world of golf. I am hesitant to move too quickly in that regard in terms of lengthening it. He said Augusta National plans to wait to see how distance may be addressed by the governing bodies before. Taking action show two are close personal friend US, admittedly, the whole does not play as it was intended to play by Bobby Jones and Alister MacKenzie. The momentous decision that I've spoken about in that Bobby Jones often spoke about of going for the green in two is to a large extent no longer relevant. I don't know if I fully agree with that. I mean, if people don't hit a perfect drive, it becomes very relevant. You see guys up in the pine straw. You. See him with some trouble up there. You see him having a hit from off these like hook lies. So it's definitely not the same. You know, guys aren't hitting like three irons to three woods into that thing. If they hit a drive, they're all hitting mid iron into that green. So that's sort of what they're talking about what she's absolutely right on that front. So hopefully that I think that everybody kind of wants them to lengthen it because like I said, it's almost anybody who hits a decent drive. There just goes for that green. And a kind of guess loses some of its luster. You know what I mean? So you'd kind of like to see him lengthen it. Yes. No. I agree with you. I think that's the right move. And, you know, the people love like, I don't know any any change right there. Just like to. Yes, or no. I mean. Change that makes it I guess like even more intrigued, right, right? Like if somebody hits it shouldn't be that. If you hit a good drive on that whole. It's just an automatic. You can hit the middle of great make easy birdie. Correct. Right. It should be like even if you hit a a good drive. You still gotta hit like a four off of a hanging lie or that sort of what that should be. And it's not that. So I think that makes a lot of sense. I do think it's interesting to hear them say that. No, no. We have were. It's Amen Corner. We don't really make changes to Amen Corner. I think that's pretty fascinating. Because again, everybody thought once they purchase that that. It was a no brainer. They ought to be thought maybe this year when they too showed up to Augusta. Oh, thirteen fifty yards long. And they haven't done that. So I thought that was kind of interesting, and then somebody has them about having an Augusta only golf ball for the masters, and he said, I think it's very unlikely that we would ever produce a master's ball. There are a whole lot of reasons for that. But I think you can be pretty assured that that's the case. So it is a fun cool idea. But kind of. Got it down. Patrick great. Family stuff. We've talked about the read God couple at length. Just nonstop. I can't decide if gift that keeps on giving. It's we pay more attention to it. Because we talk about it so much or that. It's just I think it just keeps happening over and over again that they are in the news for crazy shit. It gets a lot of coverage. It does. It's everywhere. I mean, it's one of the top stories on golf channel has like eight or ten little story lines on the right there homepage. And it's it's one of the top ones these quotes he gave he gave them to the New York Times. So it's which is a pretty large paper in the world clearly as time taper in the world. Quoted nailed it Trent and the pretty large paper out there in the world. Well, one of the larger papers in the guy sitting at a park bench on a massive paper. Guys, reading one of the biggest papers you are right though. He must be like that. Like that New York Times talking about. Abras in the world paper that's taken up. You can't even see guys body. That's one of the biggest in the world, also an incredibly popular. But know, it's popular. But it's also large bigoted, you're right. He has to have a New York Times guy who just because this was after the Ryder Cup types. We went to. Yeah. He's got times guy. I wonder what that guy knows everything. Oh, man. You know, it's juicy because it's so weird that the guy just fucking hates his family. He had kicked out of the soap. What is now part of the you see those people over there and get the fuck out here. It's like rowdy fans. That's your. That's your family, sir. You speak back to me. Get them the fuck out. Yeah. I gotta talk to my close, personal friend. Who has Jay what are they doing kicking families out of whatever he says, regardless of what he says, you can't just getting angry, let them get and Patrick and one of the main parts of the article was that he's worried that their show with masters, and apparently apparently live like six miles away. I wanted to ask you the they had like a big watch party for him. I can picture his awkward because he hates like, that's our guy who hates us a picture of him. Putting in like a standard behind the ball. I kind of just going back and forth reading the putt. And all of a sudden, he just locks eyes with one of his family members. He's like you mother fuckers they just they had their arms crossed. And there's non they're like, that's right boy, like we're we made it like you you won't make that easy fucking like rivalry. And he's like, you mother fuckers this crazy. One way rivalry were there like these really sweet pants, you just love their son. And he's like you get the fuck outta here. And it should surprise. No one that I believe it said in the article the twenty fifteen report by Alan ship. Knock the reason that the family had a falling out of sorts was when he married steam, no way. Oh, actually, I I did that little scenario ROY. I think he he's he's setting up. First putt. He locked size at this. Parents all of a sudden he looks to the right and he's like out of his corner resides does just seen see them. And he's like looking around like where's this team? And then all of a sudden he sees her looking at them. And he's like this is done. It's over. We're about to see like fireworks. Just gonna put I'm gonna look further. I see him locking is them and tears welling. In both families is just tears like, and they know what's coming behind them. No does. And then like the camera pans out, and you see just a fucking wrecking ball coming across like around eight years agreed night. See people falling like a like a car driving by pupil like pouncing. What does that coming up eighteen? No. Patrick's. I know. No. Family gets smoked just eatery big cloud of smoke and finally dissipates just God. That's good. Other reads, you know, they're back understandable. He is the defending champ. So who man this blog about it? I'm obviously were ruined for tiger in the masters. That's everything we've ever dreamed of. But I also patch agreed continues to win the masters over and over again. So this circus comes to town every single year 'cause you just know the people that Gusta hate this. They're like just get a new winner in there. Like, they can't wait for this to happen and be over. So they can have a new winter. I'm hoping if it's not tiger open. It's Patrick to get. It's a great storyline that that people are clearly like embarrassed devastated by the fact that Patrick is currently defending champ one hundred not getting as much of the pageantry a bunch of like the the Tuesday night and Wednesday is much coverage as that stuff usually gets because it's batch agree. And they're like, let's just this year. We're gonna blow over that. Yes. Focus on a lot of the other cool stuff about the masters. Nobody really wants talk about. Nobody's really that that pumped about them. So you're kind of throws a cool little wrinkle in there. He did say he said, I wouldn't be at all. Surprised if they showed up said Redon, she his family along with the fans on the seventeenth hole at east lake this past year when they knew when they ended up finding out the family was there, but he reportedly quote would've called security to throw them out. How do you see them earlier in the round reads parents worth thrown out following their son of two thousand fourteen USO, but Pinehurst a decision that was reportedly made by the US J without input from read or his wife just eating. Okay. So that's kind of the the quote name thing that just that. It's just happening in golf. Unbelievable. Twenty four has been going on since our however long him and just been married while while what a record all that woman. He's just can't stop picturing her and her outfit on laugher flower, watermelon outfit, run out, Fred religious. God, dammit. Oh, magic people people up in the Gusset clubhouse are just throwing glasses on the. Three hundred sixty five days. Brooks co he's lost tunnel. Wait looks skinny on healthy. Scott this weird beard going on turns out, the big report going out going on going around out. There is that he lost all this for the ESPN body issue. Oh, our brand Shamba yesterday. Had these were scorching hot scorching hot quotes. Nobody else talking about golfers bodies more than brain. All he is not have gym. He's like, Jim pal. Oh, yeah. You just start roasting on Instagram Twitter, and then blocks of somebody responsive into mazing love brand. Yeah. He said for him to change body and his body chemistry for vanity reasons for vanity shoot is the most reckless self sabotage that I've ever seen of an athlete in his prime. I get why they ask Gary Player do that shoot. I get why they ask Greg. Norman, I get why they do that those guys are incredibly fit guides and went to show the world their fit, but the do something takes you out of your game to change your game completely. To see someone whose body bodies changed drastically. It's never worked out very well. It's lead to deterioration again. I'm going to read that he called it. The most reckless sell sabotage that I've ever seen of an athlete in his prime. I'm telling you nothing it's brand around up like talking about golfers bodies. And whether they live the shouldn't how they handle it Tomase. Curious what the capture camps can have to say, but can't think Maury mixed comment on that people forget that Rory mcilroy. Who's arguably the best golfer planet earth right now is in Brooks kept his can't. Yep. Like he fucking signs up like his mom sits there the fucking dinner table during summer or during winters where are you going to summer sun? I'm gonna Brooks Cam ROY McElroy, I think sometime between the masters and the beginning of the PGA championship ROY McElroy of camp KEPCO will comment on that. That's cats. Oh, man. That's the shirt shirt. Like a tenth doesn't even need to be that crazy just came Kapka. Or like we. Look designs of summer camps right with all like little shit on like, what's what's like a summer camp shirt? Like, what does that usually look like kept too? I mean, he's gonna major suit. So when everyone's put that shirt, right? We have a mock of the shirt ready. Oh can't kept cuts. It's been rigs inbox about like a month. Yeah. Kept to we've got a very good. Mark of it. Look at this one. Thing is in cat rest stab twenty nineteen on there. You kidding me? Kamcatka? I'd also like to say keep your eyes Brooks kept changing his body for the SPN body issue. Like, that's why they recruited for it. Because he's got a crazy looking body. But I think he wanted to look, you know, wanted to look more sleek we're looking at this camp kept. It looks mazing camp that kept around. It's golf can't with mountains in the background. And the sun's beaming it's like so Brooks Kappa, which like a great summer cash. So this is tease from when Brooks KEPCO wins next major, which all knows have it. Yeah. Next time you really win something big. And he's you know, he's everybody's of behind got that big Mogo, and we're gonna release. Our can't problem is with the shirt, we catch us releasing now because like no one's really KEPCO Rory macaroni handful of people like Kim. Coca has not taken to the masses yet people are still like not in came Kapka. Yeah. Especially Brian Shipley. Outta give the person staying outside came cocoa. Although signs like like like, the Lord is come in don't walk into the end is near like red blotch is on his white pants and stuff. God aids. Yeah. He's like Tony Perkins from the heavyweights. Yes. Right. So hot takes Brooks Kapka, Robin Hood and investing at lets you buy and sell stocks ETF's options and cryptos all commission free. While other brokerages charge up to ten dollars for every trade, boo. Robinhood doesn't charge any commission fees. So you can trade stocks and keep all of your profits. Plus, there's no account minimum deposit needed to get started. You can start investing at any level. The simple intuitive design of robinhood makes investing easy for newcomers and experts alike view, easy to understand charts and market data and place a trade in just four taps on your smartphone. That's not very much work. That's easy. Can also you stop collections such as one hundred most popular all that good stuff with Robin Hood, you can learn how to invest in the market as you build your portfolio. Discover new stocks trader favorite companies and get custom notifications for price movements. So you never miss the right moment to invest Robin Hood is giving listeners of four play a free stock like apple Ford or sprint to help you build your portfolio just sign up at four. Play dot robinhood dot com. Again, that's a free stock side up four play dot robinhood dot com. Phil also said he wouldn't be surprised if Augusta National eases itself own policy quick question to the group as guys that have been there understand what it's like to have. No cell phone all day at Augusta would you like to see this or not? No, nope. Big note for me, we have our qualms with because of the our jobs. That's why we're not stressful. You're like. For the for the person who just goes there to enjoy Augusta National to enjoy the masters there is simply nothing better than the after that first fifty minutes where you're like, oh, I e stop reaching for your phone. It's pure bliss. It's the best thing you can experience a hundred percent. And once you get past like, you said that initial kind of barrier you realize where you're at you realize. Okay. I can't I can't have my phone. I'm just I'm accepting that fact now so best time in the world. It feels like when you're walking through I always compared to Disneyland. And then also went to Saratoga this summer, which I which kind of gave me the same feeling unbelievable entryway. They do it's great feel like you're walking into the magic kingdom. But on the other side is not like a million little kids and balloons and loud noise on the other side is like serenity. And and I'm when we went to the first experience I ever had was like it was like perfect weather is I think we went a little later in the day. We had done radio and our first my first experience of was like towards the. End of like a practice or was it Thursday or Wednesday ended up a practice round. I think it was it was ended Thursday ever is. We're just coming off the golf course like the sun wasn't beaming was a little dark out. And I saw the sun just hitting all these holes. You see the whole golf course in the I it's unbelievable. So yeah, it's it's something I've never seen. Give me the chill. I would argue as we plunge further and further into this world where we're very dependent on our phones that them having this world where them having this rule where you can't have them. I think becomes even more important as we go forward. Yes. And having your phones does not make those experience makes those experiences like if you had your phone, you wouldn't even pick up on half the things that you pick up with because you don't have your phone, right? Like, you're not looking at the way the fucking sun comes through the trees. Right. You're just like on your phone looking at Twitter trying to get picks up. I'm gonna Gusta right? Instead of just. Can you take a picture of us, and you have your back to it? And like, you're like. Gusta? Also, I mean, it is the best way. I've heard like Dave said when you go to Augusta. It's like it's nineteen fifty five nothing has changed from ninety eight year, you know, they don't have the technological scoreboards. They got the same scoreboards. Nobody's got a phone the concessions identical. The golf course for the most part the naked eye unless you study architecture is pretty much identical. It's just it's the same damn thing. It's just a little nicer, you know, a little bit more efficient. They've modernized in terms of the actual course and whatnot. But they don't have electronics and none of that going on. It's like you're in nineteen fifty five and it's incredible. I would say it's more likely. I think that other alternatives go to know cell phone and checkers phone than it. Is that Augusta's gonna go pro cellphone agree? Great year to nine hundred fifty five Borelli Italian restaurant. Wow. Inception. Come on couple brothers. Italy. Amazing. Winded. What's his name Salani? Oh Laredo Laredo when he walked in with a guy from the boat from Italy. I think it was nineteen sixty five ten years later. He walked in with this big Russian, dude. They both many other on the boat on the way here the Russian guy didn't make it as long as the rate. I think he just like bus tables, my grandparents, and really like them that much to kicked him to the curb Lleras making is ever since little little stubs for fingers because he's been touching the dole for so long cheeses legal. All right. And then last thing before we get into a couple from the galleries. I didn't summit this guys. I added it late. These are lurches masters takes so okay lurches outta town. He's he's got a real itching to get his takes out big time a little group tested points. That can't he lights it up. He sends pictures. He sends his feelings. He sends his locations when we were when we were scrambling the other night trying to figure out when we're gonna record. He was the most active member, and he was in Palm Springs poems. He was like two AM here like whatever it was twelve o'clock, eleven o'clock. There. He's in Palm Springs on business. And he's devastated. A minister shows he's gotta do got to do. So he had to lurch. She has master's takes in. Here's what he said. Number one, Rory complete the career grand slam out duels, Ricky in the final pairing turns into an epic showdown e Mickelson Stinson at the British Open for a couple years ago. Everyone would love that said Eddie Pepperell continues to be a beauty his recent tweet tie himself to Brad Pitt. I don't know if you saw this tweet, but it was all time. He said that he was you know, we got to like meet I think play a little bit with Freddie Couples. He said, it was an unbelievable experience. He called Freddie Couples. I think like the Richard Gere of golf. I think is what he said or the George Clooney calling the George Clooney golf, and then somehow that we'd also referred to himself as like the Brad Pitt of golf. Here's the tweet a surreal day today. Not only plenty for the resign. But having Fred Couples come over to me and tell me I'm one of his favorite golfers. Fred Couples the George Clooney of golf telling the Brad Pitt of golf how much he admires him. It's pretty fucking sweet Eddie Pepperell is. Beauty is. So that's good take. We'll see of lurches. I take comes through kinda chases. Eddie pepperoni zero zero. Right. We call zero nice guy coup. God love show, you're on the fan dewlaps and all these I'm joining a bunch of pools now right where it's kind of like the same deals fan deal where you get all these like all these value pick the six in like Eddie Pepperell down there. And I'm like, you know, he's so low in the valley this guy have any fucking chance his zero. I want to go there watch any pepper when the God massive tough moment for me old takes old, rigs expose awesome, though. Yeah. Great. He's out of all people to fucking name love to be wrong. I think it'd be really who'd you say zero chance who say was your like absolute MISA Trevor element bothered on Twitter. He did. Yeah. Oh god. Somebody somebody was like Trevor oh minutes weeded like his scripting the week, you know, which regular regular scripting. Yeah. He tweeted out his scripting for the week. And then somebody out on that, by the way, everyone is so on this foreplay joke before I know you guys remember at least it's just always ripping Saturday. On the show. We laugh at that things that golf media gets very excited about, and that's most certainly one of them where they're like scripts look all these crippling of these shirts shirts guys are going to be wearing scripts coming on my ass fucking getting scratched Keegan Bradley getting script, we're kind of counterculture. And we we don't embrace. I'll be be become a script. Counter script culture. I do like tiger scripts though, try and picture tiger scripts. I'll give you fuck when when they do the scripts of Justice Thomas during the US open, and that that's stupid brand that always doesn't like give me free. That smart. They tied little thing around his neck. I want to tighten that thing. All the way he was fucking shit. I hate those scripts because he never wears it. He doesn't that are on the nets ingenuous lipped sweater around his neck, and he has a wear it. Right. If he's going to script it that way. You can't have fake scripts out because every time that script comes out. I'm like holy shit. This guy's changed games in a walk out there with one of those fucking do spects whereas around his neck, and that's gonna. Be like Davis hated thing in the world. And then he comes just not wearing the scriptures wrong. So Trevor element like scripture like that. So Trevor like tweeted, his colleague avid tweeted out his script for the thing. I think something like that. And somebody quote tweeted it and gave me the tag and was like eight gonna need those Saturday and Sunday shirts originally. And then Trevor responded was like how you may be right or something like that. But you know, hopefully, I'll see a Saturday or something like that had it really know what to do. So I just kind of left it alone. But that was one of my takes another lurch. Take he said, here's a bet there will be a hole in one on three of the four days. Wow. Wow. That's a bold one holy shit. I go out and say that that's not gonna be a hole in one on three of the four days. Yes. Abso it's like the fucking John. Correct. Or maybe events. All right. I love the class. The first one that came to your mind feel there's lower lower waiting to bear on their scoring the John Deere classic than the masters fact, waiting to bear the I'll let's see if if this gets back to lurch. I will bet him one hundred dollars that doesn't happen while I'm going to text right out. I will bet a one hundred dollars. There's not three home runs in the four days. Or is he saying it's gonna happen? It's going to happen three out of the four days. Right. So they could be three and one day. That's only one correct? So its worst bet ever terrible. So. So. Delivered to he's on the plane fourth. Lurch? Takes got five this pains me to say, but tiger bogies the first it has a top twenty finish the weather and the increase of rain in recent days presents a real challenge to him off the tee with length and accuracy, and he continues to strategy of last year to hit fairways but has around two hundred yards on approach shots. That's Jack's that he's never seen him easier. Sixty four fuck Jack. No fence to Jack Nova in this particular, Trish, also, we have breaking news alerts says done he all right? All right. So does he realize that the in in this scenario, even if they have ten ones on Thursday and Friday only to correct? All right. I am bro. I am a rolling in the dough. So he just changed goes I'll go twenty five bucks on that. And twenty five he'll take the penguins tonight. I mean, see this is what he does. He's a degenerate gambler. But he also like back. He was so confident in that take that he delivered it on this podcast. No, he's confident in the take. I will say that. I messed up in the text. I said Frankie says he will bet you I forgot to put one hundred dollars in there. There is not holes one on three of the four days. And he said so now he's offering twenty five bucks on that in twenty five bucks on his game. So you mess it up. Well, that's the offer you can still change. You don't feel good. You got whole ice. I'm talking about that. I unders-. Yes. I'll take that bet all day twenty five bucks all in. And I'll take the other one I thought that it would be a little higher because I thought he thought it would be a higher. You guys have to to ongoing same amount of money. Bet islanders at this guy. Like he has nothing else to watch tonight. So he's he's very little Rangers fan. That's fine penguins. They got what number two nocco? They got number two in the in the had a great threat. They had a great draft lottery. But you know, what they're also going to be a European fucking team like couple caucus from where like Finland or sweet Switzerland or whatever sad to see like the near grains with the red white and blue in the statue of liberty on the fucking jersey. You know, be like a European team said they used to have a really good American team. Get your hate out us a good time. You get to glow you get to put them down. Your team's ready to be in the Cali tonight. I'm going to be calcium tonight with fucking savages that places going to be jungle. The last time. There was a playoff series of the calcium. People were ripping the chairs out of the floor. You could hear like, and they were literally taking the chairs and putting them people out real power tools. Jesus. Stepbrothers on the dad hears. Dell. Dell no power to. No power tools in there. I think they're using power to Dell. No power tools the ways our toll. So no power to. I think they're using power tools. Dale, no power tools. Lurch there here he is. So we think your whole one bets dumbest bat in the world. On that that right now you live on the podcast. Give us study some data or something. So. So I looked at the vets stairs each day ranges between five hundred and plus three thirty three. I think that it's an aggressive on. I think it's only twenty five dollar risk. Also think it's going to be a terrible time of year for Frankie's think it's hit. There's there can be. Now, the doing a little podcast and right now, I'm screaming across room to get into his little phone while also speaking to the Mike, can you hear me, can you? Number one. I like how you're taking the you're taking the penguins because you have nothing else to root for in your life. Right. Like, you're you're watching my team playing the playoffs. Great keep rebuilding. I'll talk to you in ten years. Number two. You understand that? If there's ten whole ones on Thursday, I guess only one. Mash playing golf. It's like the worst over. I originally wanted that you one hundred dollars. That's how confident wasn't that? But apparently that number was not brought to you via text. So we will do twenty five dollars in one double down. I will do fifty dollars on the on the Gulf. Strategy was for the that was just twenty five dollars for you. But more of the strategy for the bet was 'cause on its plus five hundred or plus thirty three day. Fan. I think it's fantails course, samples better place to do it. Each day. I think it's a good risk to put one hundred dollars now. And I think at the end of the tournament you'll be Austin. Interesting. I see what you're saying. Yeah. I see what you're so it wasn't like a bet against someone. Yes. Or nos like if you were to put money down, you should put one hundred dollars each day. There would be a hole in one three hundred four days. Five hundred God. So that's really where that that sounds from. But since Frankie wanted to do it after the rest twenty five dollars for striking. 'cause I think this is just gonna prove that on the genius. And also it's gonna be a tough year with your I will say. Incredibly hard for you to win. And I actually do feel bad now that like something got kind of turned around you. But then I also don't feel bad because I think you're alert and kind of lose it. Points. Right now. Airport. We'll fact for everybody Phinda Palm Springs fort, it's one hundred percent outside. So if you're inside the terminal, you're actually out sound can't be real only rains seven days of year. Yeah. Check it out at barstool. Lurch? You'll see that shot him inside the terminal, but I'm one hundred percent outside. That's kinda guy. Lurch? Fly fly. Masters masters. Masters. We're just masters and his last take Gary woodland does the Hoffman this year which equals leading after day one outside top thirty finish. Yeah. I could see. Okay. I totally see it. If we talked about this does Trevor Hoffman. Trevor Hoffman, Charlie Charlie Hoffman have the most punishable face on the PGA tour. Look, I it's funny because we were pretty antitrust often. Like we said last time until we had show personality though. No, I don't think so. The picture they use on the fan duel stuff. It looks like someone fucking stubbed his door or something like. See I don't consider that puncture Billy horseshoe. As punishable as the good one. Dan. Kickable face and rose, by the way, the Justin Rose cat face that smoke. Little cat is the aristocrats. Yep. Me sense. Between tweeted out, the white cat from the aristocrats said, it was a Disney. Disney movie. The aristocrat your Ristic cats yet pulling it's fine. That's take was a little bit. You know verified. These guys will can that is Justin Rose that little face is Justin. Mom, just around the rest of cats. Lays gentleman. I love Dollar Shave Club has everything I need to look feel and smell my best. 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That's dollarshaveclub dot com slash four. Next up from the gallery. We're going to go through a couple ease. Reminded reminder four play at barstool sports dot com. Send us your questions concerns. Hypotheticals whatever it is said it to us. We will read them if they are good. We will discuss them on the show. First one. Is you get a tee time tomorrow at Augusta National. So I guess let's call it like next week. Because obviously tomorrow's the masters next week. You get a time at Augusta National you can have any three people currently living. Join you who are. Well. My answer is a pretty easy. But it's not like it's like famous people. It's just like my dad, my uncle, Jack, and my brother, and that's it. Good frank. My dad. Here we go. I'd want my dad. It says here we go. Yeah. I want John Taveras and Henrik Lundqvist. Also, join us, and they'll be our caddies and doing a whole thing here. And we get to just like really hammered into them like that. We're playing Augusta. They can't even look at it. I'd actually put blindfolds on him. And I'd be like carry this fucking bag, and we're gonna play the best route of my leg. And you came look number one get number two. I'm gonna make it work. Yeah. I treat them like. Yeah. Like like like bad people like real bad people what ace psychopathic? That's that's my force. I went like emotional nice. No, me and my. I love you will with people you hate and my dad ended. This is a nice little look in the fact that the background, and Frankie braille computer screen is not a positive thing about a Gusta or about the islanders like that. It is literally the New York Rangers losing to the Los Angeles Kings and hangar one Chris Langham ground with his head in despair. The king celebrate it's a multi purpose background it not only reminds me of great time in my life. But it shows you just how close you can get to your final goals and never take things for granted. Henrik Lundqvist wanted that Stanley company just didn't do enough to get it. And I will overcome things that that coward. Didn't. It's just a look inside your masochistic brain. But really if we're gonna really serious like it's my dad, and then I'd have to really fuck and think about like who the other two are because like are you taking bodies are you like you got to earn family? You gotta earn it. You gotta hardest ticket to get in the Lord's ticket to get the heart of like you say like you kind of narrow people down. Like bachelor party invites and then like down to like wedding party. Whereas even tighter than oh. Your bachelor party. And then now you have one or two people to pick out of that that you're going to ruin the other guys allies. If I take Kyle over Robbie or Robby over Jeff or Geoff over like, Tom like, it's fucking who the hell the you pick. And what reasoning do you have to pick that? Right. And then like you to are you three whoever have that experience forever. And like you're gonna talk about it in front of the other guys. It's it's life altering this decision would be life altering if you get a force of nuggets Gusta, whoever you take would be life altering not only in a good way. But also in negative way. So my answer is a little different. But not that different. It's my dad, my brother, and then the last ones Tiger Woods. Oh, yeah. That's great. We get to play. We play Gus national widow. Very good one. Yeah. I just think it enhances that experience even more. It would be tough like leaving somebody on the cutting room floor like lurch or am. I really good buddies like I'm bringing tiger. Instead, it'd be fucking tiger player all time. But at the would understand totally understand good thing. You don't like. Two brothers. Well, then it would you know, right? It'd be that was my answer. And I had two brothers and a father w reflect up. Right. You're you don't speak to that brother. Very John very revealing feelings towards third. John was cool. And he's like, well, I'm taking him. Alex says the forecast is for thunderstorms Saturday and Sunday this weekend and Augusta especially Sunday. It's ninety percent chance. He said do we root for a Monday, finish, there's even more golf or? No, I say no to that. I like when when tournaments finish, especially with the Nassar's master Sunday such a special thing. And it's us know what's going to happen. And also there's another thing going on that night. It's also important. I don't want to drag it. I just want everything to happen. The way it's supposed to that's how I live my life. I don't have an answer for this. But 'cause my brain has been consumed with thinking something ever since you said that word forecast. How is that not a segment on the four pot? The forecast forecast while house, someway, we have to do something. Whether we talk about the weather of the upcoming like, the weather the upcoming turn forecast forecast or like what we're doing in the future. The forecast rigs e weather updates the forecast. Are you fucking kidding me? How are we not using the word forecast? That's next day. There will be a forecast that hint of pause in between or cast. Yeah. We're gonna do episode of we're going to use it for social or cash. That's almost what we should be calling. It's like shorthand for this podcast forecast. His podcasts four or cap, but I like it better as a segment me too. Yeah. You know, like on our social feed like on Twitter something like a storm to be rolling in. The forecast. We don't even know what the hell we're gonna be talking. We're going to have it. We should. I mean, we should have walls hoping it sticks. It's sticking God version of notification Heli. That's exactly what I was forecast. The forecast. So yeah, that's my answer. I'm also not rooting for money finish. Just let's just get it done sunny not. Although it would be sort of nice in a way that but it just kinda sucks to have like your Monday. Everybody's gonna go work. And then you're trying to watch the finale masters, not the same thing. But with game of thrones since we all did determine that fucking sucks. Two of them end like or the two of them are airing around the same time that you wouldn't have to deal with that conflict us it's going to suck. Right. Especially like you like the bloggers that need to be like actually like talking about like every single like for the normal person out there. The viewer that sitting on his couch. There will be not one conflicting issue with this masters and game of thrones. The just won't be who the hell still sitting around like knob being pay attention. Like what my buddies are not going to be like gloating over the. Fucking masters two and a half hours after it's on. Okay. But to the point where you can't pay attention to. What's what sucks is that? It's going to take it's going to completely wash out the masters as like the top story line. There's a very good chance. I guess if something sick like if Rickie Fowler breaks through wins, the masters, and then fucking John snow dies in the first episode of thrones Ricky follow it's one hour. People can talk about one of the masters for over. I wish media member do that at the master's Ricky's up there on the podium. He's all happy wearing the jacket. All Ricky, you got one hour forgiven. Throw. What do you want to say to the world because in sixty one minutes? No one's going to give a fuck a wrecker this shit up. Yeah. Just be on the tonight show with Brown fucking night king the next day. Rickie orange. I mean that is the fear that that that's true. That's true. No. I mean, you all right Frank you like it is it doesn't really affect anyone other than us because we gotta cover both like, we're. We wanna see the memes and talk about getting arguments about like how tiger wins like everyone to go scorched earth tire winds. Right. Like, you have all the fucking everyone who said that he would never win again into two or three hours in itself like to go back and get all the clips time gotta be a hot. That's a whole night. Not even be able to watch game of thrones. I think Tiger Woods. I won't be able to watch. Correct. One hundred percent. Well, I have to watch it at three o'clock. I will just legit will not be able to watch in real time. He'll be doing the presser. Yeah. We'll have to whip. And all those clips to be blogging everything moves live coming up with China's and spread all head of that in any capacity. We have clips saved of we had clips save when we thought he was going to win the British hope could not a hundred percent of the water. We should we should get direct. Yeah. I will say tiger is like in the mix on Saturday and whatnot. We will start allies, and we will go find all the rundown clips and everything, but we have a decent amount of them already air. We have shirts and stuff ready, folks. I want people to know that. At at the British Open last year. We had this shirt mocked up of tiger holding the claret jug of like a silhouette of tiger whole McClair chug that we were just going to drought when he was leading when he hit that fucking shot out of the fairway bunker over the little burned to the pen. And he was going. He like it looked like he swung as ever Swanton pitching wedge their life. We had this shirt mocked up because you know, the silhouette of the it's got that little like wing on it and tiger. It was just it was all I'm getting the children actually started here up of seeing with like, what are shirt would be when he was a masters because I can picture what it is. I might just drop the night. King shirt shirt. Yes. I will say I'm talking to silhouette of him getting the fuck and green jacket put on them. I'm trust me. We got some relief. Because he puts on a shirt, the only one that he puts on that jacket like like the tiger way. Right. Like, you would be able to tell it's tiger universe. Just like a silhouette tiger puts on that green jacket. Unlike anyone else in the world. Yeah. It's a it's a it's a it's a daunting. Unlike any other. Yes, he dons hickory Jackson. It's really unbelievable. All right. I think that's it. I think that's all we've got I think Tiger Woods is going to win this guy day masters. Yes. Realistically. Fucking bullshit on games. Would you put a percentage on Tiger Woods winning this massive before we live full disclosure? Yes. Jack, Nicklaus's comments made me believe that he will win the as much as we gave them. Jack Nicklaus comments made me go. It's over. I think there's a seventy five percent chance. Tiger Woods wins sixty eight in my head. When you fucking great chance, really high. You guys are hot high seventy five percents like well. I'm putting it fifty fifty. I mean half of your given if ROY macaroni didn't exist. My odds would be way higher than motherfucking guy. I I don't wanna say I haven't done this yet the highest way Dr ever placed on sports, my life is three hundred dollars. I believe that's a highest ever placed on Tampa Bay Lightning to win game seven like three or four years ago. Maybe four five years five bills. I am contemplating putting a thousand dollars on ROY macaroni win the masters. Holy shit. So you don't think there's any fuck and draw. You don't think there's any setback with this guy? I just think it's almost. A lock that. He's in the final two groups in which case if the odds are seven to one now it becomes like four to one worst in. It's like, let's go let's have a Sunday where I could win like seventy and you picture anyone not putting him in their fan duel or any other pools right now, can you picture any fucking submission in which Rory macaroni only way is if you do multiple because you try to play on ROY doesn't play. Well, he no make the final you have to have them because he's going to win. Yeah. You have to if he doesn't win right there. Anyway. And no way he fucking comes out like not in the top six wreck of. It's a if it's sixty. All right. That's all we got Frankie. Good luck to the tonight. Let's go lose. Let's say I'm ruined for my pals to bat pre-state that tread daddy. Just wear blue. We are going to be back next week. If we are saying this if something goes crazy, and it warrants us doing a Sunday night podcast. We will do so keep your ears peeled for that. If the masters finish is worthy enough that we have to come in here, and we have to record the finale. And put that podcast out Sunday night slash Monday morning. We will do it. Otherwise, we'll see you Tuesday. Enjoy them asters hit hard headed. No. No.

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Tiger vs. The Field - Charlies Dad  | 5

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Tiger vs. The Field - Charlies Dad | 5

"It's January eighth. Two Thousand Nineteen first day back from winter break in Jupiter Florida grade school. The kids in this fourth grade classroom are rambunctious to say the least. They haven't seen each other since before the holidays. And they're scurrying around the classroom with backpacks open showing off their Christmas presents while loudly. Discussing what they did over vacation. The teacher finally gets her students to quiet down in hands out a series of photocopies for the classes. First assignment of Twenty nineteen a header. At the top of each page reads my New Year's resolution most of the kids scribbled down aspirations to learn a hover board trick or to win a game of fortnight. But one boy seems more focused than the other kids. He's wearing a red shirt and an oversized black CAP. As he looks off into the distance he thinks about his response. Suddenly a thought occurs to him. He presses pencil to paper. The boy has all the toys he could ever dream of owning. He wants something he can't get at a store something. Millions of other people have seen. But he himself has never witnessed. He finishes writing his sentence on the page then holds it up smiling. He reads it again. This time out loud. I want to see my dad when a golf tournament he then puts the paper back down to write his name in the upper right corner. Charlie Woods he comes bounding up to the front of the classroom to turn it in. But while this is Charlie's New Year's resolution completing the assignment will be a task for his dad. Tiger support for sports wars comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by quicken loans. Home today is so much more than it was yesterday but rocket mortgage home is still about you. During these challenging times were all experiencing the top priority at rocket mortgage is the health and safety of the communities they serve and while things are changing quickly every day. 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I'm Dan Rubenstein and this is sports. Wars after hitting rock bottom in two thousand seventeen. Tiger Woods is looking for redemption but the current state of his hailing body makes it unrealistic that he'll ever challenge for a major win ever again his latest back surgery though is giving him a sliver of hope but now in twenty. Eighteen Tiger doesn't have the advantages that set him apart as a twenty one year old bursting onto the scene at Augusta national. He's facing a new field of competitors. Who grew up training like him building their games around that power and precision that made tiger himself legendary tiger on the other hand. He's just hoping he can keep a bad back. Stable long enough to reach Jack. Nicklaus's eighteen major record. He has three sets of expectations to live up to his late father's his own expectations and now his sons. This is episode five. Charlie's dad it's a sunny July Day in Scotland wearing a modern take on his classic Sunday. Read a two button Henley shirt with a subtle cammo pattern. Tiger Woods walks to the eighteenth tee of the Carnoustie Championship course. He looks tired but resolute. He's just a few shots off the lead in the two thousand eighteen open championship. It's been one of the most encouraging weekends in recent memory for tiger. He shot a five under sixty six yesterday on the challenging links course after is first nine holes today. He experienced a feeling he'd almost forgotten leading a tournament on a Sunday at a major tiger is enjoying the feeling more than ever. Thanks to two spectators in attendance today. His daughters Sam and his son. Charley he looks over to see them pressed up against the ropes and gives them a thumbs up which they return with waves and big smiles. The last time he won a major back in two thousand eight Sam was just a year old with Charlie yet to even come along more than anything tiger wants them to be able to experience even just once what. It's like to see their dad on top of the golf world but today won't be his day or there's after a double bogey on eleven and another bogey on twelve. It looks like Tiger has squandered his chance to win still tiger hopes to finish strong on the final hole as he lines up his drive. The gallery grows silent. He rotates into his back swing. Suddenly there's a burst of sound from the stands to his left. Tiger shot flies to the right and he reflexively says no. What are you doing in an exasperated tone? The rest of the fans boo the offending spectator heavily. They know better than to make noise and golfers backswing years ago. Tiger could have brushed distraction off or overcome at physically. He wants face a similar distraction and was able to bring the club had to a screeching halt mid swing right before hitting the ball. It was an amazing combination of strengthen coordination. Maybe more impressive than even some of his shots. He can't do that today. The motion would ravage his surgically repaired. Back everyone around tiger the fans his caddy. His kids seems a little tentative in the moment. Not only with. The Old Tiger have stopped short of hitting the ball. He might have unleashed a tirade of profanity or thrown his club. He certainly would have been in a foul mood for the rest of the round. This is a different tiger. Gone are the days of the icy bulletproof demeanor. He cultivated with earl by his side after all. He's been through. He's now truly grateful to just be here competing on a Sunday. He also has an example to set for his kids so tiger looks over at the gallery slightly annoyed slightly frustrated but then collects his tea and heads up. The Fairway Tiger manages to make par on the final hole finishing tied for sixth place. Just three shots off the lead. It's yet another missed opportunity to catch Jack through it. All this week just seems to be moving closer and closer to Wayne Tournament championship as he walks off the green. A big smile returns to his face. He wraps salmon. Charlie in a huge hug and doesn't let go for a long time. He can tell that they're a bit disappointed that he didn't win. But then with the attention span you might expect to have an eleven and nine year old. They're onto the next thing. Which now is going to play soccer tiger grins and laughs because more than even winning a major these are the moments that are important to him now as they run off to kick the ball around. Tiger feels more at peace than he has in a long time. But there's also just one thing still nagging at him. This was a chance to prove that he still has what it takes to win a major. He doesn't know how many chances he'll have moving forward so the next time he gets this close he tells himself he won't be letting the opportunity out of his grasp. It's a Thursday in April. Twenty nineteen and Tiger Woods has just finished his first round at the masters. After tying for six that last year's British open with his kids in attendance tiger kept his momentum. Going through the rest of the two thousand eighteen season he finished second at the PGA Championship then won the Non Major tour championship to finish off the year with his back pain. Finally subsiding tiger played more events in two thousand eighteen than he has in any season since. Twenty twelve now standing near Augusta's iconic oaktree known to the many who use it as a meeting place simply as the tree. Tiger fields questions from the gathered media tiger is served a softball question early on something about how good? He feels with the seventy. He just carded the opening round. Shut this number one four coats so hopefully I can do it again. Took the questions continued but then out of the corner of his eye. He spots a familiar face eyeing him through. A tangle of brown hair pulled down by a Nike Hat. It's his son back to cheer him on at another Major. Seeing Charlie here takes tiger back. He remembers when he still felt like a kid himself. At Augusta shooting a seventy in the first round of the nineteen ninety seven Masters Tournament Tiger had an atrocious. Start that day missing every opportunity and making every mistake on his way to a front nine forty but tiger shook it off and went on an absolute tear on the back. Nine shooting thirty his seventy for the day was good enough to earn him a ticket to the featured media podium as he took his seat and prepared to field questions. He was surprised to look out and find a familiar face. It was earl with quizzical yet amused tone. He addressed his dad. Hey pops what are you doing here? Never one to miss a timely clip earl fired right back. I could ask you the same thing after those opening nine holes today as today's first round press conference comes to an end and Tigers memories fade. He sees Charlie running up to him the to hug and Tiger reflects on his own transformation from son to father. Charlie will no doubt have a different childhood than he did? Some of that by tigers choice to do things differently than earl but one thing will remain the same any sport Charlie ever chooses to compete in. He'll play to win and this weekend. Tiger is locked in on setting that example for his son. It's raining lightly. As Tiger Woods stands on the Eighteenth Green on day two of the twenty nineteen masters he staring down a fourteen foot. Putt that would give him a share of the tournament. Lead Tiger is lucky to be just a shot behind just a few holes ago on the fourteenth. He pulled his driveway to the left of the fairway after his hand slipped off the wet grip of his club in the rough and with a scattering of trees guarding his only half. The green apart looked optimistic. And a bogey likely undeterred. Tiger aimed through a small opening and hit an amazing recovery shock shot. That's when he got even luckier as he walked out of the trees with a gallery closing in swiftly behind him a security guard came sprinting in to hold off the fans and slipped sliding right into tiger. Who twisted his right ankle? Tiger immediately grimaced and started limping scared. He suffered another injury the gallery gasped and the security guard understandably went pale as a ghost tiger tested the ankle rolling it from side to side and finally walked up the fairway with a slight limp if the guard or the gallery were still worried about. Tiger. He put their minds at ease when he jarred his twenty eight foot. Putt for Birdie and gave a determined fist pump to the roaring crowd. Yes he can now a few holes later with the ankle feeling better all tiger to do is put the finishing touches on this round as he lines up his Putt on the eighteenth hole. Here's the sound of earls voice inside his head repeating his favourite lesson part to the picture tiger strikes the ball and it looks to be on the right line but it runs of steam right before the whole and drifts right just short of the cup as tiger walks up to tap in for par and a sheriff six place he hears earls voice once again didn't hit it tiger grimaces he's right. He thinks he knows that when he's on top of his game that's an automatic. Make he thinks if I WANNA win one for my kids this weekend. My game needs to be but then a separate thought crosses tigers mind. He can't be at the top of his game. At least like he used to be the practice and the grind is too hard on his back and now we wonders if whatever he has left will be enough to win. Another major tiger is sitting in the champions Locker Room at Augusta national after the conclusion of his third round. On Saturday evening he looks around the hallowed room. It's here where he's hung up his green jacket as masters champ on four separate occasions so he begins to reminisce on the first time he found himself in the room. It wasn't nineteen ninety-seven the year of his first masters win two years earlier as a collegiate player at Stanford Tiger arrived late at night from a tournament hosted by Georgia tech after getting settled into the accommodations Augusta reserves for amateur qualifiers known. As the crow's Nest Tiger realized he was starving. He tiptoed back down the stairs hoping to find someone at the front desk who might know which direction to point them in for some snacks but he made a wrong turn and suddenly. He found himself at the entrance to one of the most famous settings in Olive Golf Tiger quietly slipped into the completely dark room. Marveling at the gold name plates inscribed with the names of past champions. Jack Nicklaus Arnold Palmer Sam snead and one day. He Thought Tiger Woods twenty four years. After that fortuitous wrong turn only two other men in tournament. History have as many masters wins as he does. Tigers daydream ends abruptly as he turns his focus to a TV showing the man who currently stands in the way of his pursuit of a fifth. Green Jacket Francesco. Molinari is picking his ball out of the eighteenth hole. He's just made par to get to thirteen under for the tournament. Which gives him a two-shot lead over tiger heading into the final round. Tiger has a history with the man. He'll need to beat just last summer at the British Open. When Tiger stumbled in that final round on the way to a sixth place finish it was Molinari who surged from three shots down to win. His first major once was enough he thinks I can't let salmon. Charlie. Watch me lose to this guy twice. 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It's Sunday at the two thousand. Nineteen Masters Tiger. Woods is cutting a familiar figure. Walking up the eighteen. Th Fairway black shoes black pants black hat. Red Shirt and a two stroke lead the crowd at Augusta national is loving it and while tigers expression remain serious and focused on the inside. His emotions are swelling as the applause grows the hero's reception that he's receiving feels like a long awaited release for a crowd that last watched him slip on the green jacket as Masters Champ. Fourteen years ago it also feels like gratitude for the Way Tiger has transported them back to that golden era. If only for a weekend. It was a gift that he wanted to give his kids. But as Tigar watches thousands of fans rise to their feet he realizes it's even bigger than that once again. He's having an effect on the entire field and that's not just his ego doing the talking. In November two thousand seven a UC Berkeley economists named Jennifer Brown published a study concerning the quote superstar effect. The study examined Tigers scores from nineteen ninety nine through two thousand six in comparison to the PGA tour field and found that his competitors scored almost one stroke worse when playing against him then in tournaments he didn't enter Browne. Study was confirmed and given an alternate title. The Tiger Woods effect now almost two full decades removed from the height of the tiger woods effect. Ara- it's happening again. Through the first eleven holes tiger kept Francesco Molinari within striking distance but on twelve tiger notice the cracks beginning to show while waiting for the group in front of them to clear the green tiger watched Molinari go over yardages with his caddy. He was impatient to get on the T. But hesitant to be the first in the group to test the swirling winds above the twelve pole and ultimately the Italian didn't take enough club Molinari's tee shot landed on an embankment in front of the Green and rolled into Rae's creek. Just the opening tire was waiting for. He stepped up next and stuck his tee shot. Right in the middle of the green after Molinari finished out with a double bogey tiger was left with a short but tricky. Putt for par remembering the way his round ended on Friday. He struck at true. Hit the crowd let out its loudest cheer of the day as the PUTT DROPPED. Tiger was now tied for the lead. Then the fifteenth hole rolled around and the tiger woods effect fully set in tiger watched as molinari unraveled. A little bit more with each shot. A drive that went too far right and hit a tree landing in Pine Straw a poor punch out that rolled through the fairway and into the rough on the left side and finally alleged that hit a tree branch and dropped into the pond right in front of the Fifteenth Green July. So this nine. Twelve and fifteen. That's one goal for the first fifty. Four holes I was going to hunt them down. Comparison wasn't finishing with another double bogey Molinari's collapse was complete and tigers. Birdie meant that for the first time in what felt like forever he was in sole possession of the lead on a Sunday at the master's another Birdie par and three shots later and Tiger. Woods ball is ten feet from the hole two putts will make him the twenty nineteen champion every available inch around. The green is packed with spectators brimming with nervous excitement while waiting for his playing partners to finish out. He sneaks a look over at a familiar spot where once stood twenty years ago as tighter waited to win his first green jacket. Tiger feels a flood of emotions. Overcome him he's felt girls presence on the course several times today. Each time the same words echoed in a familiar voice inside his head to the picture after his first PUTT. A downhill ten. Footer barely misses. All that's left is a tap-in about the same length as he was given on the Mike. Douglas show forty one years ago with earl looking on the pilot goes right in the center of the Cup and the crowd goes wild tiger pulls it together for a few seconds to shake hands with competitors and hug his caddy then he stops for a second grinning from ear to ear scanning the crowd before making a beeline to the exact spot where he met earl-. In one thousand nine hundred ninety seven this time though the roles are reversed as tiger bends over arms outstretched. Charlie goes sprinting under the ropes. Absolutely beaming tiger wraps Charlie in a huge bear hug and as he closes his eyes. He remembers how much it meant to hear. Earls words right here in nineteen ninety seven. I love you son and I'm so proud of you. I never thought we'd see anything that could rival the hug with his father in nineteen ninety seven but we just did aw shortly after leaving the eighteenth. Green Tiger is sitting at the same podium. Where he wants looked out and saw earl after his first round in one thousand nine hundred seven and now he's sporting the green jacket that he's earned the right to wear for a fifth time. A reporter asks tiger what Salmon Charlie said to him when he walked off eighteen after cracking a joke about how he couldn't hear anything above his own yells he grows pensive. Tiger draws his right hand to the side of his face and begins to rub his right temple trying to suppress the emotions. He feels welling up inside. I think that I think I I hope. After proudly proud of their dead the words come from a familiar place that day. Twenty two years ago when Earl Woods wrapped his son in an endless embrace and whispered in his ear. I'm so proud of you. It's Monday April fifteen on the tarmac of a private airport in Georgia. The Woods family is piling on a jet heading home to Florida. Tiger is reclining in his usual seat. Front left of the plane with a huge smile on his face. He's basking in the glow of his fifth masters and Fifteenth Major Win. Yes but at the moment his main source of entertainment is coming from an argument in the back of the plane. He's monitoring it closely though as it could quickly become a quite expensive game of tug of war. It's my turn to wear it now. Charlie shouts while at the Sleeve of Tigers Green jacket which is currently draped over his older sister. Sam No it's not you get to wear it at home. Once we land Sam firmly retorts tiger interrupts them. Let's not fight about it okay. You'll both have plenty of time to wear it. This year as he leans back into his seat he starts to question the masters policy. Which dictates that no matter how many times you win the masters you only get one jacket. But even if he did have five Salmon Charlie would probably wear to each and find a way to argue about who gets to wear the fifth tiger than shifts his gaze to the seat in front of him which was earls favourite. They'd sit across from each other on every trip. Strategizing the weekend ahead on the way to tournaments and analyzing every shot on the return trip today without Earl Tiger reflects on his week at Augusta. He didn't it wasn't an easy road to travel since his last major win in two thousand eight and many times tiger was to blame for that but he remained determined and at the age of forty three he proved to the world his kids even his late father that he could still will his way to a major win that the famous tiger affect he wants had on the field could still shape an entire tournament. But he's got a bone to pick with his dad and it's about time to set the record straight finally got one wrong POPs. Tiger thinks to himself as the plane glides through a Bank of clouds he closes his eyes and smiles. Fifteen majors pop not fourteen. As a brief postscript this series debuted as the world dealt with a global pandemic and the two thousand twenty master's is postponed until November and Tiger decided to do his part for charity. While facing off with a familiar foe Phil Mickelson. Except this time the two are joined on the golf course by some of the greatest competitors in the history of a different sport. Tom Brady and peyton manning. Also sports wars subject with no sports to watch tiger and Phil will pair up with two of the. Nfl's most legendary quarterbacks to raise money for corona virus relief. Oh and good news on our next episode. I chat with Jeff Benedict. Who wrote the Book Tiger to try to understand tigers brain his game and eventually his legacy. I'm very excited. This is going to be a great episode. We're going to deep dive it. I hope you enjoy the sports wars story if you did. You can subscribe on Apple. Podcasts spotify Google PODCASTS WONDERING DOT COM. Or wherever you're listening to this right now if you're listening on a smartphone tap or swipe over the cover art of this podcast you'll find the episode notes and some offers our sponsors by supporting our sponsors. You help us offer you the show for free if you like. 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NPR News: 04-14-2019 7PM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 1 year ago

NPR News: 04-14-2019 7PM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington, I'm Janine Herbst. Congressional Democrats say President Trump's proposal to move on documented immigrants to sanctuary cities isn't legal Senate democrat Senator Ben Cardin, says Trump is using immigrants as pawns liner standing as it's not legal. There's no budget for that purpose. This is clearly a political move for the president. He's using the immigrants as pawns in his political game of chess press secretary, Sarah Sanders, says Trump suggestion isn't ideal. But she says something has to be done. This is not the ideal situation. The ideal solution is real simple. It's for congress, particularly Democrats in congress to sit down with the president do their jobs and help us stop this awful crisis. That's taking place at our border. Both speaking there on Fox News Sunday cardinal says the country does have a problem with its immigration system. But he says it requires comprehensive for form. Tiger Woods won the masters tournament. In Augusta Georgia today marking his first major win in more than a decade. Susannah Kappa Ludo from member station. W A B has more. Changed? It's tiger tiger. At the Augusta National Golf course. To celebrate. Tiger Woods remarkable comeback. The last time. He'd won a major tournament was in two thousand eight this marks his fifth green jacket given to masters winners. The three year old woods started the day. Two shots behind the leader. Francesco Molly Nari would shot a two under seventy for a one-stroke victory. The wind completes a return after a remarkable recovery from injuries and back surgeries a threat of severe weather move. The tee off time for the final round of the masters to the early morning with players warming up in the dark for NPR news. I'm Susanna capita in Atlanta. Severe storms, including a few tornadoes tore through the south this weekend, leaving at least six people dead. The national weather service says the line of storms with damaging winds hail and heavy rain is now heading east threatening the Gulf Coast the mid Atlantic up through the northeast through tomorrow morning, fairly large. Area potential. And so folks in these areas should have at least two ways to receive warnings today. Stay weather aware that make sure that you're close to shelter at any given time to say shelter because of the main hazards today are going to be damaging thunderstorm winds and a few tornadoes national weather service meteorologist Roger Edwards tornado watches are up in parts of several states tonight. Secretary of state Mike Pompeo is on the last leg of his four country. Visit to South America today. Visiting Venezuela's border with Colombia that's the main escape route for refugees fleeing food shortages and political repression in Venezuela is using the visits to pressure. The region's leaders to ramp up pressure on Venezuelan Venezuelan leader nNcholas Maduro to step down. You're listening to NPR news. The final series of HBO's game of thrones starts tonight and already there are more than ten million Instagram posts related to season eight and fears to a holy psycho has more. The Qadis any fan of game of thrones knows that's the sound of deniers targe Arion, the mother of dragons, she's one of the favorite leading female characters in this smart SCI fi fantasy series. You get to see her evolution from essentially being a scared slave at the mercy of her sadistic brother to becoming what looks to be the ruler of the world. That's JC rifle unburden, a local filmmaker and the owner of the popular Hollywood nerd bar scum and villainy Cantina his bar even has a beautiful iron throne and customers here are beyond excited to watch. This first episode do awfully psycho tau NPR news Hollywood, the leader of a tiny island nation delivered an important message on climate change from an unusual place today a submarine deep below the. A service of the c- the president of the Seychelles spoke during a visit to the British-led science expedition that is exploring the depths of the Indian Ocean using the setting to make a plea for stronger protections for the world's oceans oceans cover two thirds of the world's surface. But for the most part, they remain unchartered. I'm Janine Herbst. And you're listening to NPR news from Washington.

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Saturday at the Masters

The Masters: Fore Please! Now Driving...

37:13 min | 1 year ago

Saturday at the Masters

"Please. Hello everyone. Welcome to more. Please. Now. Driving the official masters podcast. I'm your host Marty Smith. We'll be recording all week long here on property here to Gusta National Golf Club discussing the masters tournament with some of your favorite celebrities, athletes and entertainers this is Saturday April thirteenth moving day. On today's episode. We'll chat with Buffalo Bills quarterback Josh Allen. And New York Jets quarterback. Sam darnold about what? It's like going to the masters has just another patron and the similarities between quarterbacks and golfers. We'll also have a conversation with CVS reporter Amanda Bali onus about interviewing the golfers as soon as they finish their round. So without delay. Let's turn off of Washington road proceed down the famed magnolia lane and get to it. Moving day at Augusta National provided tremendous golf for the patrons. Francesco Molinari leads the tournament. Now at thirteen. Under-par following a six under sixty six on Saturday, two strokes behind him, Tony female and Tiger Woods fee. Now, shoots an eight under sixty four and woods continues to captivate the world with yet. Another fantastic performance to put himself in contention for his first green jacket since two thousand five one other key storyline heading into Sunday. The weather start times have been adjusted moved to the morning and golfers will play in threesomes the final grouping tiger. Tony and Francesco will t- off at nine twenty AM eastern time before we get to NFL quarterback, Josh Allen and Sam darnold and CBS. Reporter Amanda Bali onus. Let's bring back the voice of masters digital NBC reported Jimmy Roberts. Just will Lori emerges late in his round to take a two stroke lead going into Sunday. What are your impressions of Molinari's finish? A you know, I gotta say this. We end up always talking about tiger. And it's not fair. I mean tiger kind of seizes the discussion by the throat. No matter what he does. But it's probably Molinari what he has done in major Chan in major championships and big events in the last year. It's just stunning when he won the open championship last year. He went the last thirty seven holes without a bogey amazing. And those Carnoustie is just about the toughest golf course. In the world. Jack Nicklaus told me it's the toughest major championship venue that exists. He played the last two plus rounds without a bogey. So now he's had one bogey this week at the masters. It's you know, he is as impressive a major championship play right now as you could possibly be. And you know, he just goes about his business. The biggest deal about him is his putting and what he said the other day, you know, it's just. It's just amazing. Listen to this. You know, so he used to be known as a great ball striker and his brother at Wardha who on the US Amador and Marian and he caddied for his brother k his brother was always known as the really good putter. And he was the knock on Francesco was that he was never really going to be an elite player or never really gonna reach his potential unless he could make his putting better. So listen to what he said about reconstructing as putting I've changed pretty much everything that you can think of we started with the setup because I used to stand more upright now crouching more down towards the ball. My Pedder path used to be a lot more into out. Now, it tends to be a lot more neutral. I've changed my tempo. I've changed putters putter shape. I used to have a line on the putter. Now, I have a dot on the top. Instead, Mon a Molinari's said that the only thing that he could do which would be more radical to change his putting style would be to putt left. Handed. This guy is just completely Recode. He was one of the best players in the world. And he just turned his putting stroke upside down, and this is what the result is the mental aspect of the game has been vital for him to he rewrote that definition as well hired. Dave Allred started working with him and completely changed the way he practices. He now makes practice a series of personal competitions against himself. And he says that then thereby prepares him for what turn Amin's play is like it's a completely different approach to practice, and it certainly showing up now as he will inter Sunday at the masters as the leader with a two stroke lead over Tony female who shot an eight under sixty four on Saturday. And the man that you discussed off the top the Tiger Woods fee now. N- woods tied at eleven under two strokes back of Molinari. Both of those men had phenomenal rounds on. Saturday. Let's start with female before we get to Tigermania. What a tremendous round for Tony female nearly equals. The course record. You know, he's a guy who who has found. His equilibrium is enormously talented length matters here at this course, I mean, it matters a lot shorter clubs into some of these locations and don't be don't be fooled today where some of the more difficult locations, you will ever see it was one of the lowest scoring days in the history of Augusta National now, there was some other factors. I think that played into it. But really remarkable and Tony fee now has just got exactly the type of game that I think could really really it could work here. I mean, it does work here. I mean, I kind of goes without saying, but the knock on Tony has been that he when he gets hot he goes, very very low. But he hasn't finished an awful lot. And that's going to be something that he has to. Get over. Everybody's got their mountain to climb. You know, it'll be very interesting to see if he can do that on Sunday. All right, man. Let's discuss tiger. This is just amazing to watch. It is almost vintage. It's tremendous to see the performances he's putting together throughout the weekend here, and certainly Saturday was no different. What do you make of what you sell from tiger? Because remarkable and especially since he didn't really get started until you know, until he was midway through the first nine listen. He was dynamic. You know, the thing that continues to amaze me about the guy is that he has not he's been look. He's east idea woods. Okay. As Roger Maltbie once said, he's just better than everybody else. Okay. And that may not necessarily still be the case he was fantastic today, but he has been this week. So incredibly fortunate of all the fairways that he's missed and some of them he has missed terrib-. He's even par on the holes where he's missed the fairway now we're talking about two straight days where he missed the fairway on fourteen one. He was deep in the woods, and he birdied the whole now lot of that has to do with his skill. You know, and it's not just luck that you know, the ball bounces this way or that way. He manufactures some some great stuff. But you know, he has he has been fortunate in some of the bounces this week that said his putting was he looked like the tiger of ole today. I know it was vintage was phenomenal. And that's the thing. You know? That's the thing you win here. If you putt well here, that's the way this works. You know, everybody hits it a mile. So I really don't know what to say he's never wanna major championship coming from behind. But don't think for a minute that the people aren't thinking about him. I, you know, the thing is that you know, some of the people who are in front of them are people. He inspired. Absolutely. And that's a that's a big deal. I love what Tony female said in his post around press conference about the potential at the time that he might be paired with tiger on Sunday. What he said is this about what he's learned from Tiger Woods tiger taught. Our generation how to compete don't fear. Anybody? He was scared of nobody. And we all wanted to be like him. So that sums up extremely will. What you're saying? It's it's so fun. It's just so fun. Well, listen, look, take a look at Brooks KEPCO. You know, I mean, he's a total flatliners at this point just a total flatliners at this point. And you know, he just looks like, you know, the air may be there may be no air here. But he's breathing. Normally. And I think that there's look any of anybody who's ever played sports. Anybody who's ever been in a big spot and felt the adrenaline rush understands that the biggest moments the most important thing is to just be in possession of all of your faculties. And it just appears to me and the results of born this out over the last two years that Brooks kept gut is not a man who is overwhelmed by the moment. No, no, no. And he thrives at the largest of moments in the on the biggest of stages one less thing. And we'll wrap this up. I stay here all night and talk. It's very fun. Isn't it? We do have a very unique dynamic as we enter Sunday. And that being that the tournament has been moved up due to the potential of inclement weather. We're going to start in a very unique way threesomes to start their starting on one and ten would impact. Do you think the earlier start will have? Well, I don't well. First of all one of the most challenging things about being the leader. A major championship or any golf tournament. Really? Is that, you know, your routine has you up in the morning, and you get up in the morning, and you go out and you play golf you practice? You work that you do whatever you do. Right. But if you're the leader of major championship, you don't t- off till three something in the afternoon. That's a lot of time to cool your heels and think about what's at stake that doesn't exist now. That's right. These guys are all up early. You can take that out of the equation. But there's another kind of smaller factor, which I think is going to be enormous threesomes. You know, the fact that it's not just one guy looking at another guy. You know, the fact that they're going to be I'm thinking that depending on who you are. And and what you're about. It may be a little bit more comfortable. Threesomes rather than to sums. But thinking take a look at that last group now. So the last group is tiger, Tony and Molinari. Well, we know that Molinari we've already shown us that he's not going to be nervous. We know what Tigers about and I would imagine that females in the same place. But and I'm not saying it's going to be a love fest. But I do think that there's going to be I just think the whole dynamic with a three ball early on a Sunday is just a whole lot less. I don't know what the right word is that have to think about it. But I just think it's a little bit easier. It was interesting to back to females post round press conference. He said there is absolutely a tiger effect. I'm not going to sit here and pretend to you guys like that doesn't exist because it absolutely exists. And he said he grew up dreaming about being in the final pairing or threesome in this context with Tiger Woods his entire life. And he's going to have that shot. Jimmy. Thank you so much for your insight. Brother fantastic Marty. I can't wait till tomorrow night when we can sit here and figure it all out in rhetoric. NFL pretty backs. Josh Allen and say darnold. I've always wondered what it's like for athletes at the absolute pinnacle of their sports to watching admire athletes at the peak of their respective sport. That's just one of several topics I discussed with salmon Josh here at the master's here. They are New York Jets quarterback Sam darnold and Buffalo Bills quarterback. Josh allen. It is a distinct pleasure for me to welcome to the four. Please. Now driving official masters podcast New York Jets quarterback Sam darnold. Buffalo Bills quarterback. Josh allen. We're going to start with Gulf last year. I had the great opportunity to hit a few balls with your colleagues. I guess competitors. Is a better word Matthew Stafford and Matt Ryan, and they can stripe. It you guys. How would you describe your golf game? I'm not very good. I'm only played a few times in my whole life. But being out here is amazing. I know Josh is a lot better than I am. We went out today. We played we went to the country club and. I'd never seen Sam swing before. And I've lived in now season with him and I've been out golfing me and Kyle went out golfing. He never came with this. So I was very worried when I was about to see dude got up there, and he ripped it looks really good for for. What is expect like blew my mind away? We're being way too nice to each other. I don't like to. Okay, that's enough. Let me here. To Matt's that you played with. I don't want to hear that. On. The course I've heard they're both. They're very good. They can really stripe it. So Josh on Noah saw you here last year. So you've had the true full master's experience. I'm gonna let you go first. How would you describe what the masters experience is like it's the greatest sporting event that you can go to that's my honest opinion. Just as far as interaction with people. Obviously, you don't have your phones here. So people are very tuned in what's happening. There's no electron IX you can follow players. You can sit certain spots in wash players go through and as they put their numbers on the scoreboard. She's like, you're just waiting. It's then anxiety of not knowing especially, you know, waiting for tired come up on sixteen either day and just not known what his score was. And then finally seeing that read to was pretty sweet and everybody in the stands little crazy like in their own sense. But it's my favorite place to be Sam. You're thirty minutes from walking in the gates for the first time describe what you've seen so far. It's so cool. I mean, even Josh. So at the end like it's really cool to just be able to walk. The course and super green very beautiful. Yeah. There's just an amazing experience. And like Josh said, I really like how everyone's just tuned in and glued into kind of what's going on. And there's no phones or anything. I would agree with Josh. So far, it's one of the best sporting events that I've ever been to imagine. There's not very many places you guys can go now where you just can hang where you aren't asked for pitchers. You aren't asked for autographs. You aren't Bob. I'd hate use the word bothered, but you aren't bothered. What's it like to be able to be among the people and enjoy being among the people? It's awesome. Like, I said it. So there's no phones there's none of that going on. So you don't have to really have your guard up. I would say like it's kind of a tricky situation, but you get to talk to people, and you get interactive people, and some people notice you and just kind of creates a little connection, and it's not there one anything bad from. They just wanna talk to you know. It's weird because we went to the US open last year. It was kind of different. You know, you can have your phones out Sam say, especially Sam because it was that Shinnecock right right around SAM's neighborhood. So he he was getting stopped quite a bit pictures and autographs and this and that, and it's here's a little different. Like we come for the Gulf. Nobody nobody comes to see who is spectating here. We can't we come to see the spectacular views of of all the holes here and some Gulf. Yeah. You know, I think for me, it's. It's don't get me wrong. I love the fans I love interacting with the fans and taking pictures and all that. But I mean, it's so nice to just get kind of get away. And, you know, have that time that you know, to spend with, you know, you know, your friends all that in just to be able to talk to someone have face to face conversation. You know, no phones like everyone's been saying, it's just cool to just kinda hang out. And and have a good time here. It's a wonderful spirit. You're paying attention to the tournament. You're paying attention to your friends you're having a fellowship together. Because you're not distracted. Correct. And that is beautiful, you know tiger. What's it like as professional athletes yourselves at the pinnacle of your sports to come out to watch other guys at the pinnacle of their sport on this type of stage and see the way that they perform under this type of pressure? Unreal. Unreal. I I love watching golf I've been fan for a long time. But actually seen live in how they shape. Her shots is just it's hard to believe that they can do that. So consistently in put the ball where they wanna put in. They on the practice range, and they're, you know, five yards than each other whatever they're putting out there. So just like the detail the attention that goes into every single shot. They're looking at their their notes before approaching the green it's there's a lot of detail on as young quarterbacks. We can take no from say by that wargames. Well, it's extremely applicable to the cerebral part of your jobs. You guys have to process so much so quickly. So that you're in the right play in executing properly. How do you feel like that compares to their pre round preparations? It's very. Compared to what we have to do getting ready for a game. And during the week, we kind of got to figure out what kind of coverage are they plan, you know, playing a cover two or is it Tampa where the Mike's getting over the top. Do we have to kind of put a little more arc on that ball to try to fit it in the in the scene there and like kind of those shots that they have to make washing on TV. You don't you don't understand how how many hills are here and how how hard it is to actually play here, but just witnessing here in real life. And being able to kind of see the course and how how much these golfers. Have you know, how many obstacles they have to go through on the way to the hole? It's pretty amazing too to kind of see them go at it. And yeah, super interesting, and I'm looking forward to going out there and watch us more. What are your thoughts on that comparison? Very very applicable like you said. Sam said the obstacle deal in just how the prepare for every shot touched on that a little earlier. But it's unreal. How swing is. It's hard to do you know for them? It's second nature. Just like throwing a second nature for us. They've got swing coaches. We have throwing coaches, you know, the key difference though. They're more internal conflict, right guy. She's an after they got obviously react to course. Conditions weather, but there's an art to it. You know, do I fly and try to hit the back side of the green? Let it roll back to play this hill. This is a lot that goes into it. And it's the art aspect sandwich sane whether it's touch ball layer ball, where do I need to put it. So my receiver has the best chance to catch. I think there's also a ton of pressure. Just for us. I mean, we got ten guys that are playing with us on the offensive side of the ball. Like they're out there by themselves. You know, they got so much pressure. So many people watching them on the course guys box. We went out today the ball down. My hand was shaking. There's four. Differ, man. I mean, just watching them. It's like playing golf my buddies. I still get nervous just trying to hit as best. I can just because you know, I don't haven't practiced a ton. You know, I don't not very good at golf. So I can only imagine. I mean, obviously guys guys are the best in the world. But you know, to to kind of see them a protea box. And all those people are crowding, I can only imagine the, you know, the feelings that go through their body and their their mind as well tiger will tell you that every single tournament he enters. He is extremely nervous on the first Hiba takes even still arguably the greatest of all time. How often do you guys still have nerves when you're heading into the arena? I think nerves are supernatural. And I think they're really really good to have. I feel like if you're not nervous something's wrong with you. You know, if you're heading into a big event for me, I still get really nervous before games. But I think it's definitely a good thing. And. At the end of the day. I think nerves are kind of what guide you to to play your best. Honestly, because if you're not nervous, and you feel like all you might not have anything to lose. And you're just kind of don't really care. I think there's a lot more to lose their than if you know, you're super nervous. So one of the things that separates the greatest out here in the masters versus the rest of the field is the ability to replicate a swing same mechanics. All the time. That's another thing that you guys can relate to in your professions as as NFL quarterbacks. What is that challenge? Like to be the same motion all the time. Make sure your throws true in that fashion. When there's nobody rushing at you. It's very easy. You're in the pocket, you're moving around you feel somebody backside. It changes a lot of things. Sure there's lot. That's happening. You know, you gotta read where the defenders at and where to put the ball and it all happened so quickly. You know, you put your foot down your buddy to rip it. Sometimes they elbow drops. A little bit. You have to decide what arm slot to bring it out at and that's one of the joys of playing football when you can do that and do it consistently. And that's what we're working on. Honestly. And that's what I need to improve on his consistently delivering the ball where it needs to be. But yeah, I think that's one of the cool things too is like even a guy like tiger. And obviously us I mean just coming off of our rookie year. Like, everyone has so much that they can get better at whether you're Tiger Woods or us to you know, it's and Michael Jordan Kobe. They'd all say the same thing, you know, they're all trying to get better every single day. And you know, they're never they're never at that. Peak of where they want to be at and I think as long as athletes have that mind so just trying to chase. What their next best step is all the time. I feel like that's kind of where you wanna be. And I feel like a lot of these golfers are kind of in that mindset would inspiration to you drill from that. From seeing the best the best and knowing what goes into that. What I can draw is like seeing how locked. Tiger how locked in? He is like when he's walking out there. And he is is forward is on his ball trying to think about what next to do in his laser like focus is just like it's unreal. How much mental toughness that he is back to what separates excellence from the rest. What separates excellence from the wrist and your job. I think it's because once you get to our level the NFL like everyone has talent. I think it's all mental how much are you preparing how much do you study in the off season, not just study? But how much are you how much work are you putting into really the best that you can be really for us. It's about I think a lot of it's staying healthy, which I both of us can without a doubt say we need to improve on. But I think just getting your body, right? And making sure that your healthy. Obviously, there's some things that you can't control especially in the pocket with those guys chasing you around. But I think that's one thing. And then the other thing like I said before is this your mental. Kinda what what you're thinking going into a game, you know, mentality in terms of your preparation, and you know, kind of what you're thinking going into a game. How you kind of want to attack? It you noted being nervous just putting your ball ground with four people watching. How do you think you would feel if you were on one? Well, I'm playing that towel tournament. So how's that going to go? Soon as I get up down going everybody. Just take five big. At least five I feel like that will make it worse in my now, I'm gonna be locked in. I'll be ready to go. See what I can do if I can just talk to target for two seconds. And. Yeah. But I don't know. I'm very nervous about it. I gotta get my game stepped up a little bit. What have to prepare too much? You can't play that much golf. What position in football produces the best? Golfers. It has to be kicks kicker. It has to be kicker. All they kick. It. That's true. They have a lot of off time but for comparing quarterbacks golfers rotation and hip drive and throwing your hands. It's very similar to throwing. Wow, it helps a lot. That's why. Pick golf ball. Tell saying this most quarterbacks play golf. Thing. Most important aspect of being a good golfer is time kickers got more time. They do have more time. Right, right. How many of them are golfing? And how many are playing video games kickers play. A lot of games. I mean stop. Stop guessing the jets Qinghong too busy playing or doing yoga and plot. And he does play golf. I've heard he's actually pretty good. How much do you guys get to play? Well, so lash I didn't play at all during the season. You can't play. Sure. Especially in buffalo close down there pretty cold up there. But during OT as we're Monday through Thursday, and then we're done right around twelve thirty every day. So hopefully, we can join a club up there in buffalo in start shipping. What's your handicap? I'm like like right around fourteen. Maybe that's pretty good. So you guys just unveiled new uniforms. They are green, man. Yeah. I mean, those things are really green. That's where I'm going somebody's on the same wave with. Yeah. What trophy you guys are after the Lombardi trophy every single day? That's what you work in for what trophy even compares to the masters green jacket. Your lab sale sports. It's conic it stands alone. Yeah. There's nothing quite like it. Go jacket would be pretty close to a green jacket. It wouldn't that? It would be. I can't thank you guys enough. That's so fun. Appreciate your time. Have a blast out there, man. What like if if you as someone who's done this before we're going to tell him what was about to happen today. He's gonna spend a lot of money in the pro shop. Last year. I probably spent more than I won't admit, I promise too, much stuff to too much people. You know, and I feel bad. If I don't do it. You feel thin man because you can't get the skier anywhere else. It's all inclusive, and it's really cool stuff. That's the beauty of it. We would so funny. When you go in there, I was in there on Thursday and while I was in their own Thursday. So you're smart you wore a hat. I went in there on Thursday because as a fellow ginger, I was getting cook you got burnt a little bit. Yeah. Cooked. So I was going to bring your SPF one fifty. I did. But it wasn't enough. Yeah. It was hot. It was really hot. And I was going in there to try to find the Nick Sabin. Like, son. And I couldn't find them either sold out of them. So I went with the standard like baseball hat and took my ears in there. They just stick out in the sun likes them a whole lot. But your hair stay up after two hat. All man. Nothing's going to flow today that spectacle. It's a whole lot of flow is flow. You guys Rotman? Thank you so much for your time. Joy the masters. Guys. I saw how they treated just like everybody else here at the master's we stood together at Amen Corner and just watched golf, and it wasn't just Josh and Sam darnold. Our buddy Cole Swindale the country music star was there with us as well. And everyone just got to hang out and enjoy the best in the world. Do what they do really fun. Now. Let's head over to my conversation with someone who interviews the best in the world at what they do as soon as they finished doing it CBS reporter, Amanda Bali onus is the voice in the face that you see chatting with the golfers as soon as they exit eighteen each day here at the master's. Here's my conversation with Amanda value. Interviewing the gophers the participants as they exit. The course on Saturday and Sunday a very unique position because you get them. I yes, what do you hope to accomplish during those moments with those guys? Yeah. I think it varies on the player in the situation writes, sometimes you just there's a one particular shot, and that seems to happen. A lot here in the masters, right? There's just one shot that you really have. I just get them to describe this in a way the viewers at home understand how insane. This was my job is done. Right. Then there are other ones were maybe nothing super dramatic happened. But it's putting them in a position to set up for something dramatic, and you just hope that they'll be willing or ready to articulate the meaning of that. You know, I think the masters is just so meaningful and it feels bigger than any other tournament in the world. So my goal especially here is to get the players to honestly open up about how much it means to them. Interesting too. In our profession. I have a similar one to what you have. We're only as good as they are. They are receptive to our questioning, then we can look very good. And then conversely, it can go the other way. But I wonder what your preparation is. As you enter something of this magnitude, how do you prepare share? I am the Queen of over. Preparing. I have always felt like you can never know too much. You can never have too much information. And that kind of frees you up than to kind of go with the flow with with their questions based off of the players answers. Or maybe they're not super open. You can kind of a curveball their way and you find sometimes that'll loosen them right up into into maybe changing their perspective a little bit. But for me, I find the best things to do is obviously watch all the tournaments, even if we're not even if CBS isn't covering them. I am still watching every single round reading the transcripts from especially the final round leading into the master's and then reading every single transcripts from. This week making sure I know everything they've said if they're usually there's some buzzwords at their players are using continuously. I find that. If you're able to use those words to them, you get you got a better response because they feel like oh, this person's all my wave length. But really, I'm kind of cheating, and I'm just reading. Talking about right? So it's just little things like that understanding what their history here is at the masters. You know, it's I was just talking to Justin Rose, and he's two runner up finishes, but has never missed a cut here. Thirteen for thirteen and him which one he was more proud of and made them laugh and really think for a second because you could see he didn't wanna be proud of runner up finishes. He wants a win right on the same token, the more. He talked about it and thought about it. There aren't that many people that can say they've played that many masters and have never missed the cut here. It's unbelievable. So I think just that little stats to are very helpful depending on the player, if they're number oriented, but yeah, just reading everything you can watching everything you can can never let you down for which wanted to say was did, you know, thankfully, I know just rose well enough to know he would have a little bit of fun with it. Now them thinking about I'm not sure if you actually gave me an exact answer shocking. Yeah. I think it was more. So. He I think it was the runner up finishes, but he didn't want to say that he was proud of the runner finishes because you should never be proud a second. But us memorials at home. I would pay so much money. Just say I have a runner up finish here. In Augusta National start right or just play play. The course of the opportunity to be here as a competitor. And being the arena that the vast majority of them if not all spent their entire youth. Dreaming of yes. On some random course near which they grew up. So you have the great blessing as I do of working with tremendous brokers, and we interviewed Jim Nance on the very first four, please. Now, driving podcast and his perspective and insight after more than three decades of covering this tournament was remarkable. And I learned so much from him. I wonder what you you get to sit in production meetings with him ideal. I learned from his perspective. I literally cannot say. About Jim Nance? And I think that has been one of the coolest parts of this job is like you. He's a legend. He is a he is someone that I have always looked up to and never my wildest dreams thought. I would be able to call him a friend right appear. Like, he's I still will never call him appear because I'm like, no, we will never be on the same plane. You are you are Jim frigging nans. Right. But he is so humble. And I'm sure you got this from him too. He. He's he's so down to earth. And so understanding of how he so grateful. He doesn't take one day of this for granted, which I think is incredible for how long he's been doing this in how many he's done the biggest events in the world. You know, he's covered the biggest sporting events and not once he ever sounded like he's jaded or doesn't appreciate the position that he's in. And he is so willing to help at any given moment he had so encouraging. He wants everyone around him to succeed, which I think is how he's reached the point that he's reached in his career all of us fail. Especially one thing about our respective jobs. Is you're out there. It's live. It happens. The world is watching. And if you do make a mistake, most of us are very driven people. Right. It consumes. You wonder these years later now, how did you grow? What did you learn from that moment, I learned to trust myself, which was a lesson that has been long in the making. I also think that comes with age, right? I'm thirty two now. So probably if I would have had that moment of quote, unquote, failure in my twenties. I probably would've just caved. I think that really would have done some serious on damage. But instead it taught me that. Okay. I need to trust myself first. And then take the instruction from outside people. Right. Even if those are people that you trust if you aren't comfortable with something absolute, your comfort level on live television is the most important thing. And when you don't trust yourself in your instincts on what the right thing to do is that is that's when bad things happen. So I think it was actually a very important lesson for me to learn very early in a. Different level that I've been reporting on Gulf is different. I've been covering for almost a decade now. So when I do make a mistake, I'm not as hard on myself because I know I know what I'm talking about. I have that confidence here especially with these players when you get into a new realm, and you're kind of pushing your comfort zone for the first time in almost a decade in you fail. I think that is where your characters tested, and you kind of see okay. Where do I go from here? I am I going to back off or my going to learn from it and keep pushing forward. It's wonderful. Congrats on all your thank you. I really enjoyed chatting with Amanda about what it's like interviewing the golfers as soon as they exit eighteen because I have a bit of knowledge of what that's like all of my years in NASCAR. I would interview the drivers as soon as they got out of the race cars, and I can tell you. There's a very distinct challenge in that. Because those golfers are still thinking about what just happened on. The course something that might be great. Something that they're frustrated about shots. They want back and their minds are still churning with those emotions and with those thoughts having just exited the arena. Thanks so much to Amanda for her perspective on a very unique job. And thanks to you guys for listening to four please. Now driving the official masters podcast. This is the penultimate addition of the masters podcast, the next time that you hear from me. We'll know who the two thousand nineteen masters champion is here at Augusta National someone. We'll have a green jacket on his back on Sunday night. Thank you so much for listening and good night from Gusta national goal.

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Masters Betting Preview & Predictions with Brian Blessing

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Masters Betting Preview & Predictions with Brian Blessing

"Ryan blessing with me here of sports radio and Vegas hockey hotline. And Ryan let's chat about the masters. You mentioned in the intro to our full show here that this is your favorite event favourite major for your favorite betting event. Obviously the Dell match-play your favorite overall event here. The masters at Augusta National before we get into the field and everything like that. What about this course, what sort of things that we looked for here at the masters. Well, one we gotta look at the weather, then we'll see what happens here today and tomorrow, but they had rain. So it should be a little software coming in. But I I'm the drain system. There is great. But on the weekend rain is supposed to be part of the equation. So you'll always get in the first two days. It basically it's Thursday and Friday the draws big by the way, Adam the guys that play Friday or Thursday morning and Friday afternoon, the draw is very guys play Thursday morning and Friday afternoon should get the best of it. Because there's expected to be weather on Thursday Friday morning, and then it will clear up. So the guy's got gotta play on Friday morning. Could you know, get the worst of the draw in that happens in all these majors? And then there's rain expected on Sunday of, but the leaders, basically once you get the Sunday, you know, you're looking at the last, you know, eight to ten players would probably all have to deal with that of their own court. Now, the course sets up for, you know, their majorities holes our dog, leg lefts. And to that end the read one of the reasons one of the guys you have to look at. I think you have to look at him virtually every year that comes. Down to whether or not he's playing well, and he is playing well, he's not playing horrible. He's had some really good moments is here. Of course, it sets up for Bubba Watson. The course that's upper left-hander. So you can say Mickelson to Mike. We're Phil Mickelson. Bubba Watson simple, low hanging fruit. What's game two players in this era? And the reason is simple. The guys are hitting. States. The you draw the ball ball lower ball flight, it's harder to stop. And if you're hitting a fade it comes in higher and softer on the hard fast greens. And that sets up for a left-hander and Bubba Watson's can cut corners of these other guys can cut with that big power slice his, and he's he's you know, he's hitting an eight iron into thirteen. He's hitting an eight on the on the par. Five thirteenth hole. So it is putting is serviceable and he runs hot and cold. That's the prob, but he's going to be hitting the ball coming in to greens. And a lot of these guys. Just I know everybody hits to the mile now. But I think Bubba Watson. The course set up for you gotta look at him virtually every year here. And the only thing that would make me nauseated. Adam is my God watching this guy on Sunday playing a yellow golf ball. So he's playing a rains ball out there. I guess with all stuffy rules. They have they should say you're not allowed to play golf ball. You know, it's funny because earlier in the week and five dimes somebody was asleep at the switch because Bubba Watson was posted at one hundred to one now he's down to thirty five to one. So I guess somebody got fire over there over. Me. Oh, I know. Oh, it was. It was insane. I was looking at. I'm like, wait. What what is that? Is there a different Bubba Watson? I don't know. How it was. It was unbelievable. So you got a piece of that. Well, like I say it's thirty five to one now. So, you know, and this is I think the interesting thing here about majors, you know, we talk a lot, of course for him. And we'd talk about why did you get guys that are very consistent at three places. And there are guys that are consistent here at Augusta National that do regularly play. Well, but in these majors, I mean, it's tough to play well year in year out pin placements, whether as you mentioned the big factor. You don't get a lot of guys that are regularly racking up top tens in the majors. And certainly not, you know, the ones that changed venues every year like the US open, the British and the PGA, you know, and it goes to at least it's the same course year in year out. So how much do you factor in the guys that have good form here, the horse, for course, types of guys? Right. And it's still there. Yeah. Buddy absorb out that I don't know. It sounds like sounds maybe you're actually only muted your phone there or something like that. But the question I had asked you is, you know, there was looking at horse, for course, types of guys here. I mean is that a primary part of the handicapped for you. Sure. I mean, Bubba Watson's the definition of that. But the masters is also one of these tournaments where one of the leaderboard same cast of characters that step up every year. You know, my strategy going in every week. It's it's tried to find contenders, and overlaid prices unless you go all in on the guy. Rory mcilroy seven to one going for the the grand slam. It's tiger great story. I I'd be more inclined to play those guys in matchups. And for odds to win the thing out of the gate. I'm looking for some grenade can content and then I'll come back with a world class player who's four shots off the pace on Saturday and highrise many was to begin the tournament. You know that that that's to me that that that's when you play tiger. You know, you get a twenty five to one when he's five shots back on Friday night. So that's kind of the betting strategy for me. I mean, I so I'm looking at some grenade guys that can can come in here. Molinari is playing great of the world class players Molinari not getting the respect to twenty two. One Paul Casey is a different player. He knows how to win now. And he's playing in a really high level. He's thirty two one Louis use as it was a birdie machine at the Dell match played forty two one and everybody remembers bubble wasn't Houdini Shah's, but it was who's Asian he'd beat the playoff? And who stays and had the double eagle on number two in Louis coming in real quietly. He had a shot to win the matchplay hasn't been seen since the last time. We saw him he was flagged on so Louis stays. I Shirley Hoffman at forty two one this past week then he gets beat by a Monday qualifier in here. Here. He comes in at eighty to one in current form. He's. Had his moments where he's gone low. And he's another guy that's maybe figured it out used to be an ATM machine. But now he's capable of winning. And then I got bombed plays. They got borough bellow. It's Patrick and Wallis, and I met Wallis a two hundred to one there's no no rhyme or reason how this guy is two hundred to one he won three times on the European tour. He contended in Florida, and he's been over here. Now, get acclimated now the masters different animal, but I bet it's Patrick about two months ago, and the price lead me Matt Wallace way. And if you're a hunch guy Cabrera Bello one hundred one there's something in the water for Spaniards right said, he Bally's Theros Olifile Sergio Garcia in the next guy replica Cabrera bell. I mean, he's a world-class players. Should he be one hundred to one? No, I I don't think. So I think it's a very good price that you got on him there. And you mentioned Paul Casey Paul Casey top fifteen finishes each of his last four starts at Augusta three top ten six four and six. So he's the guy that definitely plays real. Well, here, you know, it's always interesting because I like to go with the chorus form guys, obviously, they have some depressed lines and and stuff like that one guy that I kind of looked at a little bit here this week. I largely wanna bring him up to get your take on him. Tony pena? Tony penile is not in overly great form here. He's played. Okay. Played a little bit better early on in the wrap around season. And he's playing here recently you'll last year the hole in one in the par-three roles ankle while celebrating comes out there. That thing looks like a basketball, and he's still finished tenth, and he was top three or top ten in three majors last year. The twenty five to one doesn't excite me. I hope that the line. That's actually the. Forty five to one now with some adjustments out there in the market. See now is kind of a guy that intrigues me here this week. Yeah. If a fifty to one range. Yes, not at twenty five and as you right right point because you can you can see it. Now, if he's into tension Sunday, they'll show that thirteen times over the weekend, then or he actually dislocated his ankle is ridiculous that even played, but he played competitively. And he does he hits the he hits in the country. And by the way, he showed up on the major stage. I think in the US Open's these kind of on the board. No, I I you can make case for so many of these guys the one guy we don't talk about in probably step up and be he's just this consistent as they come just in just enroll you'll he's gonna consider he plays very well here, and he doesn't make. The thing about just everyday I mentioned that I'm playing with the exception of Molinari mowing already doesn't beat himself. You know? I mean, he he just he doesn't take the balloon number and shoot himself out of the term. But that's the rub you you gotta watch these guys. They can they're they're in the they Paul Casey. He was leaving the thing whatever it was four years ago five years ago when he spit the bit Nellie knows how to win so play the guys just don't they'll take their medicine. Sometimes you just gotta say all right? I'm up again. You don't need the hit. The Phil Mickelson hero shot is don't shoot yourself out of the term. Well, that's the thing. What was it twenty sixteen eighty three when Jordan speed fire the snowman, you know, just kept going in the water. I mean that that's basically what it is here at this tournament. Is you just you avoid the triples, you know, and then that's what you said about Justin Rose, you know, he doesn't he doesn't beat himself. And he's a guy who's exceptionally? Good here. Five career top ten finishes at the master's and hasn't been outside the top twenty five since two thousand eight we Justin Rose has just been so phenomenal here at Augusta. And like you said, I mean, that's really what it is. You you avoid those big numbers. And there are a couple of other guys. I want to mention here, and I want to talk a little bit more about speed. Specifically a lot of people like him this week. He's played. So well at Augusta second a win second eleventh and third dating back to twenty fourteen not in the greatest form played pretty well at San Antonio last week, what about speak. I mean, are you you buying into this recent resurgence or were you made? He looked to fade him in matchups. What do you think? I couldn't I steer clear because he can't win it. But believe he shot a what shoot up forty one on the front nine forty one forty two the other and then come back with a great back night. His problem is he has a shot or two that is the death blow and to tobacco up the point. I made the betting strategy coming in wind speed hit it his drink twice on number twelve whatever three years ago. I Danny Willett at forty two one in bed them Friday night at forty two one. He was three or four shots off the pace. I'll always remember speed hit the drink because I had Danny Willett. But the problem with spee. It seems like he's got the putter going to get which is a big thing. But there's just that one shot in. I doesn't his demeanor. I don't know if it hurts you or I don't even know what the word is. It's almost uncomfortable watching him like he's capable of getting red hot. But he just sees everybody shoots holes Jon Rahm for this. Oh, the fiery Spaniard, you know, when he misses a four foot putt. I speed has a lot of that has been to where he gets down on himself. Yeah. I think so too. And obviously, I mean, this is not the kind, of course, where you want that to be thing. He's overcome at most years to finish pretty well. But you know in terms of getting over that hump and getting another win. I guess we'll have to wait and see a couple more guys wanna ask you about here. Brian. I know we're running very long. I appreciate your you. Stick it out here with me Brooks KEPCO, you know, we about guys that play really well in these premiere big time events in Berks kept going the US open. I mean, they're kind of synonymous with each other. Now what about him in Augusta? What do you think about him this week? Oh. If that's a tough. Mean his his game is the talker. The course the better for Brusca kept him. I mean, if you gotta keep it in the short grass know in the love of the US open in the big strong guy when he does it in the rug. He can get it out. Kept gives the guy to me when par is a good score. He moves heels is hanging around hang around. He's got steely eyed nerves the problem is at the masters. I don't know that he goes low enough because I think, you know, the guy that's gonna win this tournaments shoot a sixty six somewhere along the way, you know, you're gonna have to have that round. You know, the the Clinton thing is too. Is it you'd love to see that fifteen horse race turning for home where anything can happen on the back night. But this terminent it. It's amazing. How fins the heard by Saturday night? It was looking at the weekend. The great thing then you get moving day. And then you get down to the fact there's realistically five six guys every chance instead of fifteen sixty. So that we were talking about kept. That's kind of my point. I. Ever US open. You'd better be looking at him at the forefront. I just don't know the masters suits him. I think this is a horse. This course, lied Savino. With a great player. He didn't even want to see it up at Augusta. You know? I mean, he played a fate. He had no shot. He he was beat before. He went to the first eight there's a course because you can you you can hit it out of the pine needles and the fairways are wide for the most part, and you can hit a country mile. You know, it it's a glorified putting tournament through a degree. And then taking advantage of the par fives and avoiding the trap door. You the formula to win. This thing is not that complex. But you have to do all of those things because any one of those aspects of your game, not working, you know, the Amen Corner can get you or one whole can take you out. One more guy. I want to ask you about here, Brian, and I'm not going to have a bet on him. But I swear to God I'll be rooting for him. And if he wins this thing, even though I'm not a huge Gulf fan. I'm just getting soft and emotional in my old age. I will be in tears for Ricky Fowler. If he wins this thing with air today lose you now, I'm sorry. Oh, totally lost their dog with you. And you're the one thing about our. He's the best in the world coming out of the bunker. He's terrific and his putting is sensational. And I it's funny when he wins. I think he was British Open to be honest with me visit the thing gonna kill me out of why he'll probably win this. 'cause I'm saying that I spent the whole winter last year saying Patrick reads gonna win a major and I did better last year. I didn't think he'd win at the masters. I, you know, and I think in the same. I think our you know is really good. He's a good wind player. He's a good links player goes he's gone over to Europe Europe. And he's one over there. He's contended the British Open. I think Ballard win a British show. I mentioned he contended. He's there for a long time. He is the thing would sow. He is one of those guys where that disaster is out there. There's always it makes some big plush. And then there's that one shot. That the double comes into play or the snowman comes into play the takes out of it. And I would. Yeah. If I four guys going on Sunday, and he's in there, and he wins. I'd be the happiest guy in the world for them. 'cause I agree with that. I think he's great for the game. In fact, you of a personal side just for the since we're gone long. I'm sitting there at it was TPC Summerlin, and I'm doing a radio remote doing my shows over the TPC and as much as like all of Gaul the tournament director comes up. Hey, I got Rickie Fowler. You wanna have Rickie Fowler on your show? I'm like sure that'd be great who's Ricky. Now, he is coming out of college. And he moved the Vegas and before he made his debut. He lives here Vegas for like a couple of months, and he was practicing getting ready, and you know, it was going to be as debut. He come on come on the radio back, man. He was just wonderful. He was the nicest guy in the world. And then was there for the start of the turnament right by the ten. He actually it's I t shirt. But it was on number ten or no it wasn't. It was number one. He started on the front nine right outside the tent where we were doing the radio show and walked out. And once Wiki Ballard hit his first shot. His I pro shot, but he was the nicest most polite kid, and you know, you would think somebody guys it'd be stuffy and think the world owed them something. And he was not that way. Then and he as you said seems to be if the nicest guy one of the nicest guys on tour love that story, man. That's an awesome story. And hopefully, you can tell that one you know, after he wins the masters here this weekend. Brian blessing, though, stuff sports radio and Vegas hockey hotline, the guy, I know, we ran long, man. I really appreciate that. A lot of stuff for us to talk about here. Tell us where people can hear on your two programs this week and beyond. Well, sports radio Vegas hockey outline, weekdays noon to two Pacific time. K S H HP dot com. I put out the shows every day on Twitter at Brian blessing. Is there's gonna be a great week, Adam. We're going to have you know, masters previews with Jeff Sherman who does the odds over at the Super Bowl. That'll be on Wednesday. He's spectacular. He knows his stuff and Wednesday on the oddest. The NHL will be going non stop Wednesday at one o'clock Golden Knights owner Bill Foley's coming in studio. And he's he's a classic. 'cause he he's an owner. And he's been this way since the bay you got the team he says what he thinks he is he's classic. I could see the back in the offices of the team. They cringe something, but he's great. He's just he's a regular guy. That says what he thinks and last year in the plenty of thing is here, we go live another you have time for. Thirty second storey, absolutely go for it. Fully comes in. And he he I was on the founding fifty committee with the team and the and he's always been comes in and do does the show. So last year I got him to come in to do the show before the first round. So I said Haji players nuts. I'm phrasing. My wife thinks I'm nuts. I'm superstitious. I hockey players are lunatics as he hangs around the team all the time. Are you picking up there? Are you nuts? Are you superstitious? He goes. Yeah. Very much. So so he did the preview for the first round, and they'd beat the kids. So of course, I'm dumb, but I'm not stupid. So I get hold of Bill, and I said, well, you got to come in again. I played the superstition God, they won you came in you. You can't not do it. And he's almost like grunting on the other like, yeah, you're right. So he comes. He does the second round. Get it again concept wild you got to commit, but he he he kept doing it became into the preview for every round. So I played that card again. And I told him don't want certain terms like. Like, I said, I will invite you for every round, but I will not extend an invitation to have you on the show for the final. If you guys make the final, and he you know, he laughing about that because it did work for the final. But so anyway, the superstitious owner of the Golden Knights will be on the show on when they and then we do hockey watch parties around town at something station, which on anybody in town here during the playoffs coming out and wash a game with us at sunset station. Take you for indulging me on that. No, absolutely. I love it. And you get a lot of stories, and you know, I definitely enjoy being in studio with you a couple of weeks ago, and hopefully that'll be something I could do again down the line here sometime soon Brian blessing again sports radio Vega sake hotline videos over on our bang book YouTube page at Ryan blessing on Twitter. Appreciate the time as always Bryant, especially with the extended show today. Thank you so much, man. We'll talk again soon. Buddy. I love doing it with you. And it was great to see you. And you know, we got the derby coming up, right? So we'll we'll we still got what we've unfold on your baseball work. But we got good a lot NFL draft. Don't forget the NFL draft coming up next week. And and that's that's no some abetting more. So there's there's enough stuff to keep us occupied. Absolutely. Most. Definitely, thanks. Have a good. They.

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Monday at the Masters

The Masters: Fore Please! Now Driving...

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Monday at the Masters

"Ways. Hello everyone. Welcome to four please. Now. Driving the fischel masters podcast. I'm your host Marty Smith, we'll be recording all week long on property here. The Gusta National Golf Club discussing the masters tournament with some of your favorite celebrities athletes and entertainers this Monday, April eighth masters Monday. What better way to debut this platform, then a wide ranging conversation with the gentlemen, most of us consider to be the voice of the masters. Legendary CBS broadcaster gymnasts we taped with Nance while he and I were both in Washington DC recently covering the east regional of the NCWA tournament. You'll learn his perspective from more than three decades. Broadcasting the American institution that is the masters from Jack's put in nineteen eighty six to his college roommates emotional victory in nineteen ninety two to his. Personal annual Wednesday tradition here at the masters will also catch up with New York Times bestselling author and style expert David Coggins to get his thoughts on his first masters experience in two thousand eighteen and how the spirit of the tournament makes us kinder better human beings. So without delay. Let's turn off Washington road proceed down the famed magnolia lane and get to it. Here's Jim Nance. Ear the thirtieth year that you've anchored CBS masters tournament coverage when you consider that number, sir. What are your thoughts? Whatever thought of a quite like that, you know. It's it's it's I know it's going really quickly. It does seem like we got from like ten to thirty in just a snap. But you know, I really this is my thirty four th masters. I didn't anchor the first couple I don't know what people qualify as anchoring. I'm trying to think through. I think the first time I was about the cabinet fact. I know it was was nineteen eighty eight. So that would've been sandy Lyle's year. I was definitely in the cabin hosting that that'd be thirty one. Then I think is thirty second. 'cause I was in. I was in sixteen in nineteen eighty six and they teen eighty seven and Brent Musburger was in the cabin and would conduct the green jackets Ramona and bring us on the air and all of that in eighty eight I was in sixteen tower and then once play finished. I scurried up to to the cabin to do the to do the green jacket ceremony. And I think at eighty nine was probably my first year of just letting go of one of the whole towers and making my way to cat the cabinet doing the whole show from the cabin. You know, for me, I'm just happy to be there mardi that's the bottom line. I mean, you got you jog the memory Bank here. But if they told me I was going to be calling the action from the first second or third hole, and that would be it. I would be happy to be there. I mean, that's basically half your life at this more. Yes, it's unfathomable unfathomable to me that you were thirty years old anchoring the event and you're in your mid twenties. Basically as a course reporter, what were your emotions the first time that you scurry down tower and run to put a green jacket, the most iconic trophy or earning any athlete could put on. And you are in charge of this icon. Ick moment will thank thankfully, I didn't run into you on my way to the tower because I was already scared enough. And you you just raise my ends -iety level quite a bit as I was thinking back to those days. It's for me. It's all thanks to Frank trick Indian who was the father of golf television. And the man who brought the masters broadcast a life starting back in the late fifties. He was someone I was clearly aware of just by being a fan of fans, not even strong enough word, but being an ardent follower of all things golf broadcasts golf. And I knew the fracture. Kenya was a legend. And it was my goal. The one day to work for CBS. So I can broadcast a masters and that meant to work for Franks your Kenyon, and he somehow entrusted me when I was in my mid twenties. I still remember the first time that I I showed up to Augusta and I saw Frank there and. By this been told I was going to be working the broadcast. But this is like a month in advance. I came down to Augusta to meet Frank not for the first time, but to shoot some promos, and I I didn't want my assignment was going to be and Frank said, I've thought a lot about it, son. And I'm gonna put you in sixteen tower. You had a very deep booming voice. And it was a little man like five five the voice it sounded like he was a just a giant. He would definitely get your attention commanding presence about him. And anyway, Frank said I've thought a lot about I'm gonna put you at sixteen. I have to say mardi was a shock to me. I never thought there'd be any chance that I would be that late in the game. So to speak when you get down to the to the last players on the course, considering that you have announced positions of back in those days from ten on end. Bob Murphy at ten St. Malik was at eleven and twelve did both of those. Those holes from the tower right by twelve TV of untreated thirteen and then once play what thirteen would join summer holiday, teen mcchord was fourteen and been writing. Yeah. And then, of course, of burn Lundquist was I was a sixteen burn was at seventeen and then again, Pat and Kenny at eighteen and it was Musburger, and and Tom Weiskopf down on the cabin bring us on the air and doing openings take us off the air all that kind of thing. So anyway, I kinda figured I would be somewhere early on the second time. But when he told me sixteen my heart rate went up, even a little more. You noted a moment ago that as a young person one of your life goals are dreams would was broadcasting the masters winded. Broadcasting the masters become a life goal of yours. Probably like ten eleven twelve years old. I mean, I it was around that time when I've really became aware of more things that were going on in the world. And I was consumed with sports division, particularly golf television. And we didn't have is is going to sound really anxious. There's no internet back then, but we didn't have we didn't. Have twenty four hour cable television. We didn't have ESPN. We didn't have the chance to see sports bringing you the world seven days a week. That was relegated to just the weekend. Saturday and Sunday only we didn't have the CR's DVR's you'd have a way of a mechanism to record them at home these events that were on TV so trying to be enterprising and trying to consume as much of it as I could and play it back as often as I could the world little things back then called audio tape recorders and had a little tape deck about I don't know maybe a foot long five inches wide had a little microphone that came out of the side panel. And you could you could record things into you could speak into it and play it back. But what I would do is. I'd take that microphone cord that was attached to the audio tape deck, and I would wrap it around the television. Dial we. Didn't have remote controls. And now, I'm really sounding. And I would so I would drop the mic around the television dial. So that the microphone was right by the audio output off of the television on the side panel, and I would record sporting events primarily I would record golf tournaments. And I the thing I would play back almost OCD like obsessive compulsive about it would be golf openings. I would love the opening we call them. Now teases I was completely smitten by the voices of my youth and listening to their openings to these golf broadcasts. And I would be sure to record them for all the big events that meant Jim McKay who was over at at ABC they had three of the four majors. I would listen to the cadence of his voice the way, he would write the piece way he would deliver it and I'd listen over and over. Over again. US open open championship PGA championship record the masters on audiotape and play it again. And again, and again Monday through Friday, I had no avenue to be able to be plugged into the world of sports. There was none. So I would play my tapes back, and there would be some golden oldies favorites of me, and they always got back to being these these golf openings most. Specifically, the the the masters in and Jim mckay's opens when you're on the grounds at Augusta. That is the moment can't have you phone you are immersed in the event your fellowship with the folks that you're attending the master's with is very rich and authentic because you are immersed in that moment together without distraction. That's one of the many things for me that separates the masters tournament from everything else. What are some of the things for you that separate the masters from everything else I've been there's so many years now Marty that I? I just have certain personal rituals in places and moments that flood the mind with great warm feelings, it's still hard for me to get over the fact as time marches on that I was actually there broadcasting Jack Nicklaus's six green jacket, it just now that I'm fifty nine to know that I was in my mid twenties back then and getting back to one of your earlier points at fracture Kenyon, and trusted me to be on that broadcast was just a kid three and a half years removed from graduating from college, and and I had to put some captions together for one of the most significant events in the history of the game. Maybe the most important or best ornament of all time. And you know, Jack is you'll recall very nearly not getting off the tee at sixteen. It came trickling off the hill, the slope just. John flag high and it looked like it was going to go into the hole, and I could still just being frozen at the moment. What do you say? I said nothing which was the right play Franken give me a long soliloquy about make sure you remember silence is a sword called it a weapon, he thought it would bring strength to broadcasters credibility, if you were spare and you had pauses layouts during stretches that where the action was falling in in your hands. There weren't cut around other holes. He thought people would hang on more to what you were saying if you spoke, not only slowly, but sparingly and don't be afraid to ever say nothing. So I like to go out to sixteen and revisit that important moment in time personal important. In time. I just wanted an eighty six to be accepted. So that I could come back and do it again in nineteen eighty seven. And I thought I might be one and done. Fortunately, they've invited me back thirty some odd years again, and again, and I love that feeling like you're dropped out of the world when you're on the grounds there and choose they Wednesday for me of masters week are is a wonderful time. Now, I'm I'm not gonna kid you especially as I get older. I am almost flat on my back tired. I'm coming off the NCAA basketball tournament, and I've called in this case it'll be fifteen games now in the last twenty two days and that includes the championship game. But it's early round action where you're calling six games and forty eight hours in all the preparation that goes into all of this, and it's exhausting. Now. You get to Augusta in it's a swish pan. Mentally for you. You have to be transitioning and letting go of one shining moment and all that stuff that came with this basketball festival because this week is to important, it's my best and biggest and favorite and again most important week of the year. So Tuesday and Wednesday. I'm kinda getting the cobwebs out, and I like to walk around and see people see the players that are in the field. Trying to pick up some last second information, you know, cameras rolling with me, though, note and pin and hand just catalogue in my brain, I like to walk down to Amen Corner every year on Wednesday once the par-three tournament commences in the big courses closed. I go down to Amen Corner and walk across the HOGAN, Nelson bridges and say a prayer thanks on the twelfth green done that every year. So those were important times for me. And I just I feel. A great sense of gratitude in my heart for being able to be there to be able to connect my youth with the present in the see the dream, come true. And I never wanna like that never will take any of that. For granted. So twelve and thirteen is a is a place where I really sense it feel it. It's just become a ritual for me. And this this prayer for introspection and appreciation it carries. With me carries. I carry it with me the rest of the week. What's the sense of fulfillment for you as you cross HOGAN bridge on a Wednesday? That's quiet around you as the par. Three contest is underway. Well, I just I. You pointed out earlier, I I the the the number of times now that I've been so fortunate to come back. It's starting to get to be a very big number. And what that means is I've been an eyewitness to a tremendous amount of history there, and I love history. I love golf history tournament history master's history, and I just feel so fulfilled. Now that time has allowed me to be a broadcaster who has the context to go with his career day perspective on the game. I've always been a guy this follow the history of the game. So brought it to Augusta even one of them my mid twenties. I studied it enough. I knew about it. But now the history of the game that is. But now I've got my own. I've got my own context. My own perspective my own front row seat. The things important things that have happened for someone who may have never walked those grounds. The way that you've been blessed to how would you describe what they might experience? We'll for people to go to the masters for the first time or sometimes I hear from people that are out to go play got stuff for the first time. And they wanna talk about. We'll what's it gonna be like you try to tell them. And of course, the superlatives after a while to describe it, you you just you run out of them. You can't come up with enough. To do Justice to it. But you never worry that you're over. You're delivering expectations that that cannot be met. And I've never failed to hear anyone anyone ever come back to me and say, you know, so excited about going to the master's first time, but you know, have to all the build up over the was okay. It wasn't quite as great. As buddy said, which happens most things that get height or get built up. You know, you can never meet that level of expectation the masters. You can't you can go to the you can reach for the sky and. As high as you want people are still going to like everything is going to be met. Everybody's gonna reach that level of greatness that you've described I don't know many things in the world today that deliver every single time as much as the masters experience for people for the fan the patron. I mean, it just it is it is the ultimate event. I had the loftiest of expectations the first time. I went I'm very new to this gym, very new. But the first time I went I had this vision of something that was almost unattainable in. It's so far exceeded that level of experts. Exactly already remarkable. It was yes remarkable. So you roomed with Fred Couples at the university of Houston while you guys were they're playing golf. So I can't imagine what nineteen ninety two must have been to see your friend, prevail on the grandest. Of sporting stages. What was that like for you? It was surreal. It was. It was something that I've really felt was going to happen. One day. I never doubted that it would happen. And I gotta tell you backstory on that Marty is that just like this year's final four masters combination. Which is Minneapolis and Augusta. That was the same thing the year. The Freddie one I was coming off the final four call in Minneapolis. We're Duke won a second straight national championship. My runners, my gophers, whatever you wanna call it at the final four days before the start of the masters or plane McAllister who played the masters a number of times on five tour events, my roommate and Fred Couples my longtime suite mate, roommate whatever you wanna call with four of us. John horn was our fourth great player. Great guide your friend of this day. We we we room together our sophomore and junior years in college. And there was a lot of chatter back in those. Days about Augusta. It was very clearly all of our all of our favorite event says we just we just we just. We live for it. But Freddie, we always thought was going to win it. And I used to go around masquerading as a young reporter and boasting not posting that'd be the wrong word pretending that maybe one day. I'd be lucky enough to be there to to to call it. So all of this kind of came together. April twelve nineteen Ninety-two, Freddie, one it, and that is my single favorite of event that I've ever had the great privilege of being a part of I get showed up thinking about finding a little cold at the same time. But that was just it was beyond description when you could grow up with your buddies share what your dreams and goals are and for all of us. Some so many ways that the pot at the end of the rainbow existed on the grounds of Gusta, but through different vehicles through the golfer for announcing and then to see FREDDY to be there, and I was fortunate enough to be in the. Cabin and anchoring the broadcast. And and be able to be there for the presentation of the green jacket doesn't get any better than that. For me. It was a huge. I was lost in all of all of it with you know, Fred's achievement. And that's clearly the thing here. For me. I I was just you know, as a fan, I was it was a buddy that was winning. I was trying to harness so much of that personal feeling and still act like I was somewhat professional while broadcasting it it was hard. You know, I'm I've got a duty to see into the public of. Not route into not acts anything short of being a professional broadcaster at that time. But we got through it through a lot of motion in the air. I'm not gonna kid you last year before the masters final round we put together as we do every year a master's special that precedes the the start of the Sunday broadcast of the masters the live final round broadcast preceded with a with a special this year. It's gonna be Mark O'Mara, and it's going to be just a wonderful show. But last year was on, Freddie, and that might have been my favorite documentary. I've backed on. No, it was that I've ever been a part of and it was a look back to his remarkable journey his life, his friends, and of course, his conquest at Augusta. But he was there. He was the week before winning the masters. He was going to get your coffee. I was going to go on that. So wait a minute. I want all of you, folks. Listening to understand. And what Jim is saying here. So the week before the week before Fred Couples becomes masters champion achieves. Lifelong boyhood dream. He is fetching Jim Nance his coffee at the hop in running back and getting me stat sheets and latest quotes and the information I need to carry my briefcase to the arena to the old the Metrodome Minneapolis in blamed both. It was quite a time. And at the time when all this was happening. Fred was ranked number one in the world. He had already won to events leading up to the masters in one of them decisively. I think he went Arnie's event at Bay Hill by nine or twelve shots. Anyone LA as well? But here he was taking the week off before the masters. Yes. And he's fetching cokes. And I can remember the last thing I said to him when he was leaving Minneapolis was I'll see next week in public cabin. This is the this is this is the year because we talked about it for years that wouldn't be something one day if we could see our careers converge to meet at that very point. And it did, you know these players personally and have for many many years generations of them. Now. What impact Jim does winning the masters have on a player's life? Both as man and profession. Well, there's a certain amount of if you will immortality that comes with it. I mean, forever looked at differently. I mean that lives beyond you in your masters champion, you're part of that special little club that that one golf's greatest event in my mind. And yeah, how is it changed them? I mean, it's a case by case basis, you know, some of them they've gone. Onto to win. More more Greenjackets other major championships like tiger. That was his first like fill that was his first. But there are others that have had that one win like a Mike we're or Trevor Immelman, but they are forever. Their masters champion tremendous credibility of cachet, whatever that goes with at the rest of your life. You Don, the green jacket, you you know, you had a springtime the belong to you. And it it it lasts forever. But I still also think about the guys that you know, had that crowning achievement that one that happened back in eighty six again, the Jack Nicklaus could at at the age of forty six win the masters again at the time forty six Marty to me seemed like. Like, he was seventy could've been seventy for all you at that point. You know, I'm in my twenties. He's forty six. He's ancient. Well, now that I'm fifty nine forty six sounds pretty young, you know, and it's hard to believe the Jack seventy nine. I gotta tell you the the friendships you mentioned earlier, and I just barely touched on it. But you know, when Jack Nicklaus was presented the congressional gold medal. He became the hundred fiftieth American to ever be presented the congressional gold medal. And of course, it's the ceremony is in the capitol rotunda. And I mean, everybody attended attends this all the Senate, and the congress they're all there. And I got asked by Jack through years of friendship getting to know that family. I got to ask to be his co presenter along with his son, Jack, the second one of my great thrills that be able to see your life. Go from from your nervousness in eighty six and this icon is in front of you. And you're asked by Franks, you're getting into describe the moment and with teeth chattering and armed shivering to be able to muster up enough. To say the bear has come out of hibernation in fast forward thirty some odd years later there. I am in Washington being able to present Jack Nicklaus along with Jack the second award that is about the highest civilian honor you can receive in this country. And of course, Arnold Palmer to be able to get to know Arnold as a friend, and and and as a mentor as well just like Jack to be asked to speak it at Arles funeral back in twenty sixteen at his memorial service. All of this comes from my time in years. Broadcasting the masters getting to know the players the legends their them getting to know me there and trusting me, and it's just it's been the greatest gift of my life. I know you're not supposed to our industry hourly rude or sound hopelessly in love with certain things you're supposed to sound. Like, you're right down the middle. But you know, I can't contain my passion and love. And and and just overall obsession that I had as a little boy that's carried with me my entire life for all things that are at Augusta. So I can't wait to to do it. Every year to broadcast the event to get there to walk the grounds have those ritualistic moments and catch up with old friends and see what the gods have written for us as far as the script this year. I can't tell you what a great honor. It's been to learn from you and to hear your perspective, it is one of the joys of my life. So thank you for taking the time so much, and we appreciate your your perspective is so rich. Thank you Marty. It's a pleasure. Amazing. Jim Nance has enjoyed he's been the soundtrack for so many historic sporting moments in my life. And I imagine many of you listening can relate what a wonderful moment to hear him. Relive the emotional time in nineteen ninety two when his college roommate Fred Couples puts the green jacket on his back while Jim Nance calls that moment, I love to hear that emotion. That's one of the beautiful things about the masters is it always evokes that type of motion for us. No matter who wins it. But to hear such a personal recollection from Jim Nance is especially moving that man's been doing it for more than thirty years here to Gusta national. He's been such a tremendous partner and such a tremendous ambassador for the masters tournament for more than thirty years. Now, let's hear from New York. Times bestselling author David Coggins who's just on year two and still in that giddy. Phase that every one of us experienced the first time we come to Augusta National in the masters. I just wanted to with you. I know that two thousand eighteen was your first masters experience. How do you even begin to describe what it was like? Well, it's you're so wracked with anticipation and excitement, and then it's turns out to be far better than you thought. It would be it was like if Santa Claus was real. And and you're waiting to come through. And then you start seeing these places in three dimensions that you've dreamed about whether it's the sixteenth green or the T at at eighteen all these types of things that you've you love and you've followed along for years. And all of a sudden you are there. It's in front of you. And it's just it's hard to believe it really is impossible to describe it to someone who hasn't been able to be immersed in that themselves, and it's always fun to. Chat with people who have been about. You can't oversell it try oversell it, but you cannot oversell it because when you do experience it it exceeds any expectation you could've possibly had. It's like the Grand Canyon. How do you tell someone what that's like? But it's green. It's not dry, and all of a sudden, you're you're you're waiting to get in. And you realize that everybody else there is excited the way you're excited, which is really nice. I think you feel a connection to the other patrons because you realize what it's matter to you all these years matters to them too. I think that's why everyone's in such a good mood all the time. No doubt the respect for the grounds. And the reverence for the grounds. Permeates the patrons. It does you conduct yourself in a unique way. While you're within the gates. I it's so true. I that was one of the things that really struck me. I think there's this feeling of goodwill that everybody has their and you realize that that's been passed from generation to generation and everybody shares it in some way, even if they've never articulated it, and I think that's why you have these wonderful conversations with strangers. Just where are you from? How are you doing? Isn't it a great day to be here? And I know that that's what it's like every time on here. It's wonderful that you can have conversations with strangers. And actually look them in the eye. You're not distracted by technology. You're not looking at it through the prism in the lens of an iphone? You are actually in the moment and present in the moment, and how many places is that the case anymore. Very few. Hardly any. It's such a great thing. I mean, of course, you you you reach for your phone. You're like, oh my God. There's the leaderboard. I gotta snap a picture and then like, wait a minute. No. I don't first of all we don't have are you can't. And then you realize how much more focus you are insensitive. You are to everything that's happening in front of you. And I think that's also shared through with everybody else. Who's there? We're here to to see the players to have these these wonderful experiences, and we're just much more sensitive when you're not distracted by the digital realm and social media and sharing things. I think I know you're big on man. Honors and try to be this conversation leads us directly to that. What do you think society could learn about golf manners? Well, I think slowing things down is helpful. And I think thinking about other people I think good manners. It's about rules, of course. But it's also about common sense. I think common sense is how you how you treat someone else and it just an intuitive way. And I think when you get on the grounds at the masters you use low things down you're aware of your own behavior. And how it affects other people for a place where there's so much anti no one is rushing anybody else. No one has jostling anybody else. I I'm always shocked when I'm interacting with people here that the sensitivity they have for everyone who's around them. And it's it's so refreshing. And it's it's the way we kind of the better version of ourselves the way we should be. But I think it's hard to do that in our everyday lives. But somehow it happens here. It's funny. I the first time I ever came was two thousand fifteen and I read the piece that you wrote for the masters, and it was tremendous, and it was the exact same thought process. I had when I was here for the first time that reverence for the place really does permeate us as human beings. And it demands a certain manner of us that we society might not every day will it's funny that you say that because you arrive at the masters in the first thing, you do is go through security and metal detector, which is sort of where we usually meltdown at the airport. I mean, I think that's one of the things people associate with the difficult traumatic moment when they're traveling. Of course, we all have. But hearing for some reason, it's like it goes quickly. Everybody's smiling. I thought this is incredible. If this is like this going through security, what is the rest of the day going to be like, and then the rest of the day is even better. But I think it speaks a little bit too that when you feel like you're having this shared experience or this collective experience that you you wanna give everybody the benefit of the doubt. And you wanna be patient and not interfere not diminish anyone else's experience. And that seems to me how all interactions. I've had at the masters are even with. Who sell concessions or people who are greeting everyone is smiling and friendly, and everyone is part of having a wonderful day a memorable day. I don't think anyone forgets day. They have at the masters where have you been if anywhere they compares? I really I really haven't. I mean, I've been to Wimbledon and that that's a little that's wonderful a great experience, and I totally recommend. But it's a little bit different. I feel like partly because you're moving here there. You're you're in your seed and kind of applauding politely. Here you you can roam more. And I think I think that gives people it's wonderful to be really on the grounds and on the chorus. And I think that that it's there's nothing else like it. And I think that's so many people are here, and it's their dream day. If they're coming one time, and you can sense that you see fathers with sons families together, and you just know that this matter to them that they've been looking forward to this. And that's a wonderful thing to see. And I think that also puts people in a good mood to your smile. I haven't smile I mean for those of you guys listening to. The podcast, and you can't see this man's face. It is just nothing. But joy it. It's so funny. I was here with my it's true. I I'm so happy when when you come here, and I feel like a lot of people have that feeling and I'm here with a great friend of mine, and it's just when we're here together. We don't really have to say how happy we are to be here. And even last year we were sitting on the third t after the players have gone through. So all the players are off that part of the course, and we just sat down and just talk for while is a sun was going down. And I thought this is incredible. I mean, the Gulf don't get me wrong is amazing. But it's also these these moments that happen, and I can see them happening with other people too. And that I think is is really wonderful. I was discussing with Mike to Rico the great broadcaster about the tournament. And he was discussing how the tournament has evolved over time throughout the decades. And it spurred me to think about the fact that despite the evolution the spirit has remained the spirit. Bobby Jones intention has. I've never waned, and it has never been diminished in any way that is so rare in today's society, what is your perspective on that? I think it's incredible. It's absolutely true. I mean, if you if you looked out onto the onto the grounds and the clothes were slightly different. You wouldn't necessarily be able to tell what year it was. Right. I mean, maybe the size of the lenses on the cameras are about the only thing I think the spirit that he brought to it in the attention that he it obviously mattered to him the etiquette and the manners when for decades, and I think that's wonderful as that that's been carried along. I think you need these kind of rules and someone who cares a lot. And then you need people to follow them. And that's what's wonderful that you've had kind of his spirit remains because everybody else's carried out his good intentions. It takes such a special personality to get people to follow does. And what a special special person. It's remarkable what this place is and has become I think everybody feels that way when their hair style. Let's discuss masters. Style. How would you describe masters style? Well, that may be has evolved. I mean, it looks like there are a lot of golfers out there. Even in the end, the they're ready to go. I feel like they're they're they think they're like Batman or something. And they might get called on to make shot at a moment's notice that sort of their dream that they get take it for me. I can't I can't make this five would I think I mean, I'm more of a classicist when it comes to style. Like, the old, you know, give me Ben, Hogan or something. I don't think I don't think you need to ask so much of yourself. But I think it's it's it's fun to be here. I love to see a bucket hat on an old timer or something like that. It's it's great. And I I mean, you've got people lining out for for hats and merchandise like crazy. What's the value of a generational moment where your grandfather and your father, and you and your son could all be immersed in the same moment and have the same experience. That too is a rarity. That's a as a. Great question. I feel like so many things happen in our lives. Everything moves so quickly. I think we're distracted so easily that it's amazing when we can come together and realize we share something I mean, that's why we have holidays. That's why we have these sorts of things where we come together and recognize the values that we continue to have like you say from generation to generation, so when you can have a place that people can come and do that that could be Rockefeller Center in New York City during Christmas time, it could be the operas or something like that. But I think any place like that where you bring people together, especially from the family say, this is what matters to us. Maybe don't even have to say it. Maybe you're just there, and you all know that it's happening case here. I think it's happened. It happens all over. The course it's great to see what is your masters moment of watching throughout the years, which stands out the most. That is such a good question. I think. I was a senior in college in nineteen ninety seven and that's your Tiger Woods played. And he's maybe a year older than me. He seemed like it was someone I could have known playing there. And we didn't know what was going to happen that year. And it wasn't just that it happened. It happened more than anything had ever happened. And so we were watching in. We were about to graduate from school. And we felt like that was a big deal. How about like winning with the lowest score ever that is an incredible deal. So I think that we were watching on like our analog television that we didn't even have cable little bit grainy. And but you could see that red shirt pretty clearly I was just going to bring up the rich or he single handedly changed golf Stein. You wanna talk about a transcendent personality that took what was and made it what is a whole lot of kids started wearing red on Sunday when he became so dominant. Imagine owning a color. It's one if you're just your name is known, and then you just have color and a primary color too. I mean right that many of them and good luck. I don't think that will ever happen. Again. He told me a great story. I was interviewing him before the tournament last year and why he wears red. And that when he was a young man his mother told him, it's his power caller. And he was like, well, I'm going to be defiant, and I'm gonna wear blue. So he wore blue for a couple of tournaments, and he got his butt kicked in those turnament, and guess what? He'd eighty white right back to read started winning again and never questioned mama again. It's amazing. We think these things were setting stone. But before everything became known as thing there was like a little trial and error in there. I love that. I do too. What do you hope to see this week as the tournament progresses? And what do you hope to experience it? Maybe you didn't last year. Well, I'm always like to see new players do. Well, and I think and I think that in any sport where someone else kind of steps in Rives and makes tournament their own and that. Is good because then we can look forward to it every year. I mean, I love this sort of continuity and story lines that go from year to year. So I'm really hoping that some young players who've kind of mixed Knicks it up in the past step step forward kind of come to the fore. Maybe it's their moment. And when that happens that I think that's good for everybody. It's good for the sport. And it's great for the viewers you player. I'm barest say, I'm not a player. I'm just a master's fanatic. Even when I had I had a corporate job. And I just let them know. I am not taking the masters dot com off my screen and after like, my boss, look like what's going on in here. People just gathered around in my office became like masters HQ it but that speaks to the power of the tournament. Absolutely. I have friends we all got dressed up and get together and watch New York. And there are plenty of people who don't even go for still Nassar's obsessed, and those are my people on notice as the definitive style expert you choose the old school green cap with the white rope across the front. This is incredible. Right out of eighty seven. I love it. I like the fact that you can't really tell tell what year it's from judging from the looks. I got on the on the court today. A lot of people were very curious about this hat trendsetter. It's what you do. Passion at sometimes accidentally. I love it, man. I can't thank you enough for hanging out with this insuring your insight and your time. It's so great to be here. Thanks for having. To win this writer, as we stated multiple times New York Times bestseller, and he wrote a piece for the masters this week that truly encapsulated my feelings the first time I came to Augusta National the respect that we have for one another as patrons of this tournament makes us better people. It reminds us that kindness and taking time with your fellow man to fellowship is so important today. And I appreciate David offering that reminder to me, and hopefully to you guys listening that that's what this tournament can do when you're here and you're immersed in it. You are reminded of how special it is to spend time together uninterrupted and unimpeded experienced the joy that is one another and seeing world class athletes at their absolute optimum peak. Thank you so much to Jim Nance into David Coggins for their time insight in joy regarding the masters tournament. Here at Augusta National again, we're doing this every single night throughout the entire week here from the tournament all the way through Sunday night when someone is wearing a green jacket. It's Monday, April eighth. Goodnight from Gusta national Gulf.

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Masters Preview: Shipnuck & Bamberger

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Masters Preview: Shipnuck & Bamberger

"And. Hello. This is Alan ship. Back for other podcast knockdown. I'm joined by Michael Bamberger hates doing these puts up with it. Anyway, michael. Thank you for your indulgence. Delighted that's a lie. The listeners know how relatively well-shaven you're let's talk about what really matters the masters. It's on the horizon were excited. It's good event. When you is a pretty good when you look ahead to that. We can Augusta. What do you look forward to the most see my friends hanging out spring? The tradition of an honest to God, you know, the fact they really do history. Very well there, and you can't go there. If you care about the game like we do you can't go there and not think about the people who have come before tire. I think you really do feel connection Arnold and big Jack. And guys didn't get it done like Weiskopf interview now, and I think for me, and I've been thinking about this Jenkins died. No Jenkins wrote the winner. Now, I'm not even remotely for second year putting myself in koetter Jenkins. But I like I like I like writing losers and agus nationals every bit as much about the loser. And unrequited love as it is winning. So it's really is golf. Yeah. That's well said when you think about shark and Ernie Els and Johnny Miller Ventura attorney got it like five chances to win. I mean, you can go on down the list. It's incredible. How many great players win the masters because it was it was in. Their head, and they just they just couldn't perform. Yup. Yup. And then the one and then there guys for whom it really is there shining moment. Like, Chris DiMarco Orlando t skies who were you know, they got in a playoff and they'll carry that around for the rest of their lives because people won't let them forget anyhow because so many people watch that tournament your grandmother watches. I mean, it's just it's just different. It's neat. It's neat. It is. I'm on it. I'm on record is is being a little grossed out by the tree, piano music and all the reverential tones in the stupid codewords we have to use patrons and all that. But when I think masters, I get excited for master Sunday because it is the most exciting day in the sport except for maybe a writer Cup, that's close. But we, you know year in year out the the masters just delivers and I can think of Sundays when I was driving a golf course. I was nervous. Part partly was especially in this. I had to write a huge story on a tight deadline for discerning readership. But also just general butterflies. I know this game you're crazy day. I don't know what's going to happen. I can't wait to watch it. And like I felt that so mad imagine your ROY macaroni with a four shot lead. Did you feel when you're writing for Sports Illustrated? You know, we talked about Arnold interview guys came before tiger. When you were writing on deadline for Sports Illustrated magazine, did you think about Riley Jenkins and her wind and others, Kim before's. Yeah. I would say early in my career that I mean, that's the challenge all writers you have to filter out all other voices in your head of of your influences. And the people you admire the people who came before you. So I can I can remember sitting generally speaking, I've been lucky on most games. I know exactly. I wanna start the story. I sit down to write. But there's a couple of times when I didn't get there wasn't a stolen moment. There wasn't a some bit of reporting or observation or something that I just when it happens, I know instantly, send me my lead. But there's been times. I haven't had that. And only a few by remember sitting over the keyboard like how Dan Jenkins, right? This you write a paragraph at his voice, and that's not very good. Let me try let me try a Riley lead. Now, if not very good let me clear my throat like her wind here and six. Paragraphs? And that's the recipe for disaster when you're on deadline, and then you went for Garrity. Garrity guarantee. Our beloved colleague John Garrity yet I wish my pros was elegant John's, but that's a very very high standard impossibly high standard elegant writer, so yeah, I mean, you're aware of those people because I've been reading them reread them, and especially in the younger, my younger days. I would often read tons of sl game stories that week because I'm looking for nuggets or it's relevant because. Normans in in contention ninety six and so you go back in eighty six games story. Remember how lost to Jack and? As you know, those were fact check in those those are more reliable than the old newspaper stories, and you don't have the internet database. I to me, that's I was gold standard for just information as well as entertainment. So. Yeah, now now, I don't worry about that at all as with you kind of have our own voice and you trust it over time. And you just go with it. But for sure I mean, it's a little pompous, but I used to say like being being the Gulf writer size. Both of us were that's like plain centerfield for the Yankees. There's there's quite a lineage. It goes it goes from her wind to Dan ging ins to Rick Reilly. I mean, that's a half a century of epic Gulf riding in we came along. And even if you're only Bobby Mercer, you're still centerfield for the New York Yankees. So it's like it was it was definitely a thing. Our roles of change a little bit the nature of the of the Gulf media has changed. You know, when I think when when Jenkins especially was writing those stories a lot of people got their magazine didn't even know who won the master's learning for the first time who won the master interesting. You know in the sixties wasn't on that on TV very much. People didn't have access I positive a lot of readers like. Oh, hey, Jack Nicklaus won the masters. That's cool. Obviously know by Sunday night, it feels old now because it's been picked over in a million different ways by just as many people. And so I think one of the great strengths you bring to to all your reporting. But especially of Augusta National as well, I should've said writing, but the root of the writing for you has always been the reporting, and I wonder do you have a game plans going into how you're going to tackle the reporting on a Sunday at Augusta. Yeah. We'll definitely start on Saturday. And this this is a little pleasure of mine is. When all everyone's in the pressroom typing. Usually I'm sneaking around the locker room, the driving rains the putting green the parking lot Saturday night, Saturday night often person. I see is you. We're we're both information gatherers heart, and we kind of know where to go, and we have enough relationships you can use to get people. And it's just that's happened. A lot has happened a lot I don't really have articulated that thought my head before. But it's true. And sometimes we give wordless directions lake DaMarcus caddies over there, or whatever it might be. And if you see a clump of reporters, that's where you shouldn't be I've I've known that for a long time. And so we're both always looking for the side doors because let's face it now ever know sue on the masters globally instantaneously. So are only value is to give people something different take them into Butler cabin for the celebration with Bubba Watson family, or whatever it may be otherwise, what are we even doing there? I know you embrace that as well. It's neat. Because as you're saying it, I'm thinking about it's it's it's. Made the whole campus bigger, but it's still a pretty cozy environment. You know, there's there's in front of the locker room or you don't front of the clubhouse is the back of the clubhouse. There's the parking lot is not that many places to go. And there's a lot of people. There's family caddies instructors hangers on. And they all have a take on the guy. So lends itself to what we like to do and tournament week. You're never gonna get the guy, you know, the player especially at Augusta because they run through this whole all the different the the green jacket ceremonies dinner with members. Like, you really have to go to the secondary people because they're on your side of the ropes. You can get the wife and the swing coach and the college roommate and the kid the players out there playing golf in. They're very hard to get. So it's the secondary people that that really tell the story and people are off their phones. So they have no choice, but actually have a conversation with you. It's who did you wear the game star when BJ one Lipsey got the parking lot. Yeah. Did I did that? That's a great moment. Tell tell the listeners about the this is for the few who don't remember? That's correct. So VJ wins a masters in two thousand retroactively denies tire the the grand slam because tiger when the other three that year. But and. There is Sunday night. So after the after you win do the outdoor indoor ceremony you go to their Callen celebrate with your family, and then you go to dinner with the members. And after all that you're finally released its nine ten o'clock in the old days around the turn the century. We had a lot of staff, and we had the luxury of bringing more bodies. We'd whoever's writing the games refreshed. I would have their their reporter. And you know there. You're on on trunk slamming duty, basically you had to follow the guy till they slam their trunk and drive away. That was kind of and you probably had that role in earlier life, maybe or not a little bit. I helped Riley a few times like ninety six ninety seven and then I wanted to do other things, but it's kind of fun because if you're in that role, you don't have the pressure of writing the story so you could just run around and try and get everything and it's treasure hunt. Really? And so a guy named Rick Lipsey who Michael, and I both know he was he was on our staff, and that was his job in two thousand and VJ seeing after he wins a masters, and we all know if you had a long arduous journey to the green jacket. It was the one year suspension from the Asian tour and the self-imposed exile under a mango tree in Borneo. And all that stuff. He he he wins. It's one of the great rags-to-riches story and all sports. He wins a masters, so he's he's walking to his car. Whatever it's ten o'clock at night. And he says kiss my. Half everybody and Lipsey was there and heard it. What does it even mean? This is an interesting question is was he was talking to the ghost of Bobby Jones. His agent was air was they talking about, you know, people who want to come to a house party. There was a little ambiguous in Rick did not go up to and say who who's I in reference to he didn't quite have it. And so this was one of the first game stories I did because by now Riley was doing the back page column. And so I have a have this quote. But I don't really know what it means. And it's so inflammatory get it would define how people think of Jay on the mass. I didn't use it in my story. Oh, you did not. I did not and our boss James Bahari was flummoxed by that decision. But because I wasn't there. I didn't really know the context couldn't be certain. It's a big difference as he talked to the Gusmao so membership or. Or is he talking to the people back in Fiji whose estranged from kind drip for one quick second. I want you with the listeners to know how responsible the sentence. You just said is in actual serious fact because it would be so easy just to use it, and I would've used it. Because it is what he said and looks very dependable reporter. But the fact that you chose not to use it because he didn't understand the context I think says a lot about how we approach you approach or craft. I appreciate that. But there was there was a kid from the Gusta chronicle whose name I can't remember he Nancy. No. What was this guy's gonna last? Mike. Who wrote a calm? The baseball writer who butter thrift shop green jacket one year and walked around national goatee. No got no, it doesn't matter. Anyway, he he wrote a column about it because he heard it to or maybe you got it second hand. I'm not sure. So then our Boston Harry's. It's out. So for the the the Nason CNN dot com. Gusta paper also have the quote. Yeah. And I think they used a day later. I don't think it was in there Monday edition. I think was in their Tuesday dishing. This is all longtime ago, but I wanna writing something later in the week. But. It was it was an interesting moment. But those are the kind now I might actually use it because it's so interesting, and I have more. Comfort my position. Within the the the golf media and life itself. I was just starting out. And I knew it would be so much pushback from for days people in since I wasn't there. I just I I just don't I just didn't feel comfortable using it. But. Anyway, that was initially episode. So yeah that that's well. Let's talk about Jenkins's. We're kind of on the topic the craft. You know, this is gonna be the first masters without Dan Jenkins since I guess the fifties. Nineteen fifty he came in fifty one. He was there every year until two thousand eighteen is really incredible. And there was so many morals in the wake of his death. We don't have to quite go over all all of the things that may Jenkin Jenkins, but he wasn't institution at the masters. It's it's going to be different feeling because I used to see them as you would in the press room, and he's always like safari shirts. How'd you describe it get you need pockets for the cigs and the glasses and he had both exactly he'd always step outside? He's always smoking cigarettes. It was like it was he was a living legend among us and. However, you feel about some of his stories or some of his books like it was it was he was a link to an era of golf. I didn't get to experience in. You only got a taste of it was cool to have him there. And he's going to be sorely missed and truly linked to Byron Nelson. Ben, Hogan and Sam Snead because you knew all through HOGAN, particularly. Yeah. And to hear his stories and to get his sort of mumbled one liners was it was a pleasure. And he he was not he would not this remote figure. I mean, everyone you'd see all these young reports wanna go to hide him. And he was always very gracious. And if you're sitting table Luntz, including the conversation, and he was he was fun to be around. Yeah. But I have a friend in T-Bone Burnett, while a lot of people know that name very, well, no musician, and he grew up in Fort Worth. And he he worshiped Jenkins. Maybe that's not the right word. Growing up in Fort Worth a half a generation behind Jenkins seeing that Jenkins had taken on the world to Fort Worth gave T-Bone the idea that that he could do the same and Sousa significant figure somebody only met him once and probably like the late fifties. And there's no cellphones at at Augusta National. So Jenkins was there in in the press room and T-Bone was on the golf course. And I said Jenkins which see T-Bone and two months in Jenkins said, yes, and T-Bone definitely wanted to do it. But without cell phones, couldn't orchestrate and I had a sinking awful feeling that. It was going to be the last chance to do it. And of course, I don't even know I'm telling the story, but it, but it's just the nature of life in life without cell phones and Augusta National, and I don't know it's a lot like goes nationally, though that you get close, but you don't really get to the end often there. It is the no cell phone thing for long time. I was really bitter about it. Because it it cuts us off from our. Leaders and you can't sweet in you. See some golf course. It's amazing. You wanna share with the world? But dining back the pressroom five hours later. It's old news can't correspond with your editors and your colleagues to coordinate coverage because especially in the internet. You're we have five or six people there, you need to know other people writing so you're not duplicating their efforts, and it was always a drag. But I've come in the last years to embrace it because it's sort of a pleasure. Just to go out there. Watch golf talk. Find people the crowd to talk to and just settle into the rhythm masters week. So I reluctantly of I've bought into the whole thing it is like a Bekasi carrying around that Baldwin chain. But what's funny is still have that phone being done, Amen, Corner them the Bank of payphones, but they're free. You can call anywhere in the world. And so I will not like right down on on my notebook people's like don't even know my daughter's numbers, you know, it's just like you just look him up in your phone directory. So I'll actually write down in our colleagues numbers and every now, and then I will call from even I always call. My dad is sort of a joke, and it's just kind of funny people waiting line use pay phones. And so you could sort of sort of apente find a phone, but. It's just a unique part of that week. I had a hard time getting he's really a great guy. But he's not great beverage calls. Scott him, Scott Tali, who's Jack's Jack Nicklaus's right him. And and it wasn't returning my calls than I called him. From an Augusta National clubhouse phone area code seven. Oh, six he picked up on the first ring is it Scott. How are you? Ooh. I thought it was Jack verandah. Exactly. This is something we should tell listeners because it's really one of the pleasures of the week. Is amazingly Augusta National let's reporters into the clubhouse, and there's a back porch on the second story, the verandah where everyone goes to let everyone lucky few go to eat lunch, and we've enjoyed many fine meal there, many fine meals and we've sat next to Jack of Billy casper. And hang there to Watson was a regular the Spaniards in that setting. Well, they sit really close and they talk to each other like hushed tones like there's there's always a secret on their lips. I love plus the red wine red wine in effect. And it's it's an interesting thing when they couple years ago when they built that ridiculous new press center far away from the clubhouse. I think and the food is great. They have a lot of terrific food. Now, our food options were limited. I think one of the motivations in his works is to get the reporters to eat for free in the press room, where if you go into clubhouse you have to pay and it can be hassle you won't have to wait half an hour for table. And so it's a haven't been eating their nearly as much let's make a resolution that will do it. Again. This definitely I will say the peace cobbler is the best I've ever had. It is also the same waiters are there year after year Curtis? Okay. Curtis Kerr's, very very harder than anybody on that campus. He knows all all the bison schoolteacher. I believe really I think it's only a one week gig firm. Yeah. I may be mistaken. But that's my memory. Yeah. Well, and there's another Jen whose name I can't remember. But maybe Mickelson told me that Phil wrote him a letter recommendation. The guy was up for a promotion to become more of a management position at Augusta National. And after all these years they've developed this kinship so Phil actually put in a good word for the nice. Yeah. It's interesting insight into Phil. Yeah. There's a million say about Phil, but he is a human being and he connects to other human beings and just doesn't have the blinders on. And I think that's why it's great for him that he's an Augusta National member for life. Basically, you know, not technically. But as what they call an honorary members oppose, but it suits his personality. You know, the hang out personality. That's neat story. I didn't know that the guy got the job have to have to do some follow reporting. I do not know I hope so. Well, since we we've raised fill in his his psychological twin tiger. They're they're both playing pretty good golf. Do. We have one last hurrah at this master's or another are we gonna get one more run from either of them run. Yeah. Like they contend. Oh, you mean by to the bitter end. Yeah. I would think I think we're near the end really truly. I mean, Phil Phil swings. Great. It's great. And Phil putz pretty darn well still. I mean, we saw a pebble was that wasn't smoking mirrors that was quality golf. And you know, course, knowledge does count for lot there. So contend like Fred contended. I would think Phil could could you know, somewhere in the next five six years could feel content twice. Sure. Could he win? I don't think. So I'd be shocked, but it's fun fun. Sing it. I think it's easier for filled in tiger. Probably what do you think? Well, also Fred would always contend till Saturday afternoon. I mean, he was he wasn't then he would he would follow. He would never there till like, the bitter bitter end. But. Played good golfer, sixty odd holes. Yeah. Or even seventy two, but just you know, sometimes you just get beat. But. I feel like feel has a better chance tiger. There's something about Tigers game right now that looks it looks hard Tigers making look difficult and he's making mistakes. I mean like that quad at the players. I mean when just the last time you've played it on the previous final round when he was nibbling. He probably gonna win. But he was right there in the water again. Like, those are the big misses. And I almost like a little he looks a little mechanical to me, maybe it's just because his buys not feeling good from day to day. But there's just a freedom to the way Phil plays. And I think gust is the ultimate canvas that kind of artistic expression, you can't be thinking about anything other than just scoring and free wheeling and and just fill. That's more his game right now. He he's hitting it as long as tiger and putting better and iron games, pretty comparable. But. I just feel like like Phil house will secret sauce there. I completely agree with that assessment. I feel like tiger wants it too much. And it means too much too many needs too much in those, and that's all understandable, given the give given the course of his recent life, where's for fill? It would be freakish in great to be eldest masters winner. But it's not really going to change his life. Just going to improve his life. In your right tiger. Tiger looks tight at times. Even this is weird to say even compare the ninety seventy or the two thousand tiger two thousand Tigers perfect, but ninety seventy was free. You won by twelve. You still learning how to play golfie won by twelve. Joke. Yeah. No, it's true. When those highlights pop up just the joy, he played like Tigers group out there on golf course, we had had a little moment of levity with Kevin Naw. And it didn't matter the players, but it's like most. -tated joviality. Yeah. Right. Exactly. I mean every time I see one the gophers granny's not playing that. Well, but his face looks tight has his body language is in great like it doesn't look like it's not much fun for Gulf looks like a struggle right now that can change and he was always a grinder. I mean, always always exuded effort, but. It's been neat watching them for what you know a year. Plus now trying so hard and seeing how much comp competitive Gulf means to him. Where's phill- obviously turns on turns off depending on how he's feeling that? We can he knows he's like macaroni great tennis player. It's like it's not they're week. They're just going to conserve move on tiger doesn't have that. And there's so much we've covered tiger so career so much. It's annoying about him. I guess would be one way describe it. But there's much much to admire in this road. Back the effort with everybody with reporters and fans, particularly on the golfers on the driving range, it's been neat to see. But but that one thing that you're talking about that freedom factor that would actually shows up in the putting to of course, down the stretch. No, even you saw to Eastlake. I mean. When he had that usually tournament all but one he started playing some really bad golf and could've frittered away and was kind of lucky that Justin Rose and ROY macaroni doing nothing but any heat on. But I mean it goes without saying we're not gonna see into tiger again. But it's I dunno. It's mazing. We're having the conversation about tiger. And Phil all these years later one. Do we really think either them could win the masters? I hate to say, no. But what do you think? Yeah. When all the stake was incredible phenomenal seen it was cathartic for everyone. And Tigers back. I said I wonder if that's it like the amount of effort took for tiger to get back to the mountaintop. Could you could you summon that again, and again, and again, I mean the physical toll of preparing the mental anguish he went through of losing the British Open losing the PGA championship. Just the grind on his body. The, you know, having to juggle his responsibilities a single dad, the everything I'd never thought it was a gimme that he was going to build on that. And keep going. I thought maybe in some ways almost like two thousand thirteen he had to get back to number one post scandal like he had to get there and everything fell apart after that. And some people believe that you know, injuries and back injuries are are as much motion as anything. That's where the stress goes. And you can has more to do with your emotional life than your golf swing. When things I I don't know the answer to that. But like kind of felt like two thousand eighteen fell to me like two thousand thirteen tiger had something to prove. And he proved it and now what? Right. He he thinks or he tells us that being in contention is like riding a bike. And he has got so much vast vast experience more than anybody by far double what anybody including Phil has experienced. But it's not like riding a bike. Because when he was in his prime. He look forward to those five foot. Here's for for par knowing that he could make it, and you know, what a what a gag or that was to the rest of the field because he didn't miss them. Now, he doesn't know any has gonna miss them in really really hard to win Augusta. National see what every year we see the same thing, basically, whether it Sergio or whomever Patrick read down the stretch, they make them. They don't miss them. They make them. That's tiger. Did that's a big did. That's what they all. Do. They make. I don't know. I don't see tiger standing up there making him because even post scandal post fire hydrant hydro. He's missed. He's had chances actually. Yes. And he hasn't made them Sunday afternoon shocking. Mrs like two thousand eleven missed a couple of three footers on Sunday. I mean, you had a chance to win that thing. Two thousand ten miss shorties thirteen that crazier thirteen he got himself back into the thing. No, I agree. I mean. It's it's gonna be fun to watch. I mean when when tiger pegged it on Thursday the masters. There's just going to be an electrician we've been very lucky. I mean, this guy is one of the most dynamic figures in the history of sport. And we've seen the whole thing unfold. And here it is all these years later, he still doing it. Well, it's I mean that's one things about Phil's longevity. I mean, it's it's my little Bob Dylan's while Philip Roth. I mean, it's inspirational like any goes by longevity is the most underrated story and all the Gulf for thirty years. He's been lied. What you're did. He win Abner on tour ninety ninety one. Yeah. It's two thousand eighteen or nineteen. He's still one of the best players in the world. Yeah. He's one of the best players the row for getting on thirty years. It's incredible. No major injuries. You know? Well, that's I mean, that's how I feel about. Dan Jenkins to is. Like, I think there was when I was a young punk. I would I would see him or art spanner like God. I hope that I'm not going to be haunting press rooms eighty like there was something tragic about in my mind. And now, I've an older not that old. But I would see on like heck. Yeah, man. These guys are still doing it. Like, it's still it was cool. And it's still cool. I still see arts, California guys. The Crosby clam bake. And I see him around. He's half blind. And he's but he's still out there doing I'm there's there's that aspect of just going to work and do the job. And it's it's pretty cool. You know, the Stephen Wright line. How about the stones still doing it after all these years? Fred barney. That is I was just watching almost famous. Good movie such a good mood. Underrated movie. I well you especially I feel I can really especially as nineteen year old kid intern. Or whatever you were resonates. But there's that funny thing where it's actually. What's that late night? Comedian CB valid great cameo where he's like this this slick like record company executive, and he's giving the band of pep talk about you need to monetize your success. Give up the bus starting to flying on the jet like. If you think Mick Jagger is gonna be out there. She's been around fifty. You're crazy. I mean, it's obviously done with a, wink. But you know, that movie captures the spirit of what it is like to be a young reporter writer trying to make it more than anything. I've ever read or seen. And I don't know why it it got despite so many people's that Cameron Crowe movie. I believe. Because it was Cameron. Yeah. Now, it's a good one kid who played that role. I never knew his name stubborn movie. I think he's just peaks. He was that was that was. So what else do we need to discuss about this master's will? We haven't talked about Daniel burgers chances. In other words. Let's not. Well, actually, we have. I mean, there's no would you be shocked? Bubba just stepped up there on one thing. Of course, not not golf, and he's excellent at the that playing. That course, and he's left handed. Yeah. Any his at high and long. I will say this feels like the most wide open masters in a really long time because you have a dozen guys anoint his Jon Rahm Tommy fleet. Justin Rose, the list of foreigners goes on Brooks Cavaca. That's a pretty good golf course. Wow. I and I mean, Jordan speed who's in the depths of despair, but he went he went to last year plain horrible almost stole it, Ricky Fowler almost all it. I mean, you can throw out ten twelve fourteen sixteen names as this is my favorite, and it's credible. Yep. And you put tiger and film that list. And so I think it's I think it's gonna be a fun. And I think we should make a promise to listeners try and do a recap from the wall. Oh house on Washington road Sunday night. If everything goes our way. Absolutely. I can Michael's attention is flagging somehow ate a banana during this podcast. I don't even think the microphones picked up. It was that was quite a performance. Michael, thanks for doing this. That's not true hankins and some other things and good times could taps, right? Thanks for listening. As always we will bring you more podcast content for golf dot com. This is Alan ship and Mike ObamaCare signing.

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Masters Mania With Joel Beall and Nephew Kyle | House of Carbs

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Masters Mania With Joel Beall and Nephew Kyle | House of Carbs

"Hey, tastebuds. Today's house of cards. Brought to you by the all new BMW three series. Don't be driven by technology drive. It the all new BMW three series is available with all the latest BMW innovations. But what you will love about this vehicle cannot be listed or explained. In words. It has to be felt on the road. Just like a beautiful Ponente cheese sandwich over masters weekend. Cannot be looked at in pictures or examined just with your eyes. You must make one you must spread it onto the bread. You must consume it. And enjoy it across all of your five. Senses. Hurry in to your local BMW center today and test drive the all new BMW three series for yourself. The all new BMW three series. Don't be driven by technology drive. It w. The ultimate driving machine. Right. My taste buds hungry at home. As I call an airy comrades. April the flowers are blooming spring is in the air and golf is being played in Gusta, Georgia, Hungary, Hamis, welcome. We've all made it we're back. It is another edition a house of cards the food podcast for the hungry people by the hungry people. I am you're hungry host Joe house, and this is a very special masters week addition of house of carbs. Of course, we are going to be focused on the beautiful set which is available down in Augusta Georgia, and we want to give you some inspiration. We're talking to Joel Bill of golf digest. He's a writer there. He has a story what your master sandwich, which says about you. We have a delicious discussion with Joel I w Colin I get into the way back machine. The throwback machine we are going to share with you our own experiences last year down. In Gusta, Georgia. It was delightful. It was delicious. Let's get in that belly. All right. It's me producer Kyle aka nephew pile, aka cousin. Kyle aka, Tom shady, aka not Kyle guy. Neff? How you doing buddy? I'm great. I'm great Gallo foam about the masters, but I'm great. Yeah. Well, you me both I'm headed to New York. So I'm going to drown all of that fear missing out in a gigantic plate of chicken parm. And maybe a half dozen bud lights. I'm gonna get over it. But we're we're we're we're throwing back. We're going back. We're going to talk about our experience last year at the masters because we have Joe Bill coming on. We're going to walk through all these inches. And I know during the conversation, I started to get very hungry. But also, I said that I was missing out on all the sandwich hacks that were going to be available this this year. So the best thing I ate this week. We're going to go back a year. What was the number one thing? We're gonna start with you. And then I'll share couple of my observations, let's hear your number one food item from all of our culinary experiences down in Gusta Georgia last year. I'll man it sucks because I know my top three, and I don't know what order they're in. But this top three then it's our. Show, buddy. We could do show. What am I saying? Yes. So it was definitely the egg salad. Definitely the Ponente cheese. And I think the classic chicken. They're only reason I had to put both of those the first two in there the exiled in the the Pimento because I had so many of them. Because they're they're everywhere in that like really could not believe that they were like a dollar fifty or two dollars. Because I think it's like Augusta National it's impossible to get into. It's like really tough to get tickets for the masters, and then you walk into this amazing place, and there's like four dollar beers that I love all the beers. And these sandwiches are like you can get them. I don't know. I don't know by by like in five even so it was I don't even know what we we walked out with the with the whole bagful because we wanted to take them back to the house and have a true taste test. But I'm surprised in that listing by the mission of one thing, but I'll come back to that year. A true Yankee year from upstate New York. Have you had a lot of exiled or mental cheese in your life? Not that was the first time ever happen mental cheese. And I heard you talking I was thinking producing a shack house way back, and I heard you talking to Geoff Shackelford about it. And I think he was going to the masters like two years ago, and you weren't and you guys were talking about mental cheese. So I was wait. I was mission in mind that when I got there like I'm gonna see what this is about. And boy, I found out. It's it's it's kind of a rich thing it's a little bit of an acquired taste some people claim that it's overrated, but you have to have the first time that you go in experience the masters. It's you know, it's just putting a dot on the I it's just crossing the t right one hundred percent. And when I came, but since I came back, I've got mental cheese spread and like try to put it on some bread. And it doesn't even come close. Now, you can't do this is one of the things that we recommend to all the taste buds hungry homeys this week feel free. There are plenty of recipes out there, if you get a hankering you're not in Augusta, but you want to celebrate the masters go head and make yourself version of a Ponente cheese sandwich. Reversion of the of the eggs, Sal. That's fine. They're not going to be a perfect replica. But if you just want to get in the spirit, we encourage that the omission that you left out from your three culinary choices. There you did not include the Georgia peach ice cream sandwich. So I think I missed that out until we got back to the house. Yeah, you're right. When we got back with rapid and Bill, and you and I think that's when we got. That huge garbage bag full of food that we carried through through the through the course and try to raise home before everything turned. But yeah, I think I got like half one of those, and I didn't wanna bring it up because I was it was sad. I didn't. I don't I don't think I had tickets to the Wednesday or the or whatever day it was to the actual tournament rounds. And I didn't get a chance to go back. But I I had like half a one. Yeah. It was it was incredible. And it's just it's kinda oh, I see. So it's just a painful memory. That's why it's not your top three. It brings up a painful missing out experience. Okay. I understand that. That's that's that's reasonable. So my by signal best thing, and I feel we we had a couple of great conversations this week on fairway rolling. And then on today's house of cards with folks that are physically down there and Augusta and they're sharing their perspectives on ways to take these sandwiches might my true number one. Fundus te heart, and and and belly sourced opportunity was taking these sandwiches, and creating something new out of them in combination of sandwiches. So my new number one favourite master sandwich. I share this is the classic chicken with the Pimento cheese. And then I like to lay her in hot sauce into that. Because I wanted like slightly spice year and just based on conversations this week. I'm adding in a new wrinkle for the sandwich, I'm talking about some potato chips for I. I'm great crunch. Oh, yes. The Pimento cheese. You you I if you take him enter cheese sandwich in split it in half. And you take the half that that has more of the the delicious filling you want the side that has more on it. And that becomes the item that that you wrap around the chicken. And then you take the bun that the chicken that holds the chicken naturally and on either side of that Bunn you put a pack of hot sauce. I love this idea of getting some potato chips in there. And I'm inspired by our conversation with Alan ship knock on fairway role in earlier this week where he talked about doing an egg salad sandwich with potato chips. Hickel shan't house. I'm talking about taking that chicken beautiful meadow chief chicken sandwich with hot sauce and potato chips. I don't I haven't. I'm not going to give that a name. I'm not so bold. As to be claiming that I'm in the position to be giving out a name for that thing. But that's going to be if you're headed to Augusta this weekend, I recommend this sandwich hacked to you. It is the sandwich that I'm looking most forward to when I get back down there as soon as possible nephew Kyle where we have to go back. Maybe as soon as next year you can properly enjoy a full Georgia peach ice cream sandwich on the grounds. I answer. I think we should stop talking right now because it's lunchtime. And I'm starving. Let's get into this conversation with our man Joel Bill. All right there we go taste buds. We're about to get going with Joel Bill talk about these master sandwiches and his own experience with them. 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The first thing I wanna do is get smacking, and these guys fit the Bill I love it's a flavor burst, and it's crumbly kind of texture. So you're getting right away. This nice strong dose of of cheese in your nose. It's kind of melting in your mouth, it really sets up the palette for delicious dinner. It's a great snack. It's a great pre meal. Snack hop on Amazon or just the cheese dot com and use the promo code carbs ten off and get ten percent off. That's promo code C. A R B S one zero o f f for ten percent off. Just a cheese dot com. Oh, my taste buds. It's a beautiful time to be alive. The flowers are blooming. It is warm on the east coast for more than two consecutive days. At a time. Our guest today is the award winning staff writer for golf digest. He previously worked at foxsports dot com and the Cincinnati inquirer. Crucially for our purposes. My hungry homeys here here at house of carbs. This gentleman is an expert in the cuisine of AOL lable to the lucky patrons attending either the pack practice sessions or the actual. Ornament rounds. At the Augusta National Golf club for the masters. Joel Bill welcome to house of cards. On brother how you feeling. I'm I'm feeling good. But I'm not feeling as good as you tell. Let's tell all of our culinary comrades out there. What the what the scene is? Like, it's the Monday, we're recording this on a Monday of masters week. What it looked like out there? I'm calling you from the promised land, and despite forecasts some weather the sun is shining at patrons or out the sundresses. They're out a lot of players kind of worry about the rain or on. The course usually Monday the day where they just get some practicing on the driver range baby getting nine holes. But either because of the fear of more bay weather in the week, or they're just kind of blown away by what's transpiring? Everybody's out. So everyone Augusta National is always a happy place that people are specially feel in the flow this morning. Well, feel in the flow. And and what that means is the concession stands are open. And that they there are six to eight beautiful bins filled with sandwiches, wrapped in either a beautiful. Well, I don't know the correct shade of green looks. It's kind of a a hunter green. What what is masters green? What what color is the green? You hear Augusta green? But I'm with you. I think it's a Ymer scream. I if mule type of wine, I think that's a pretty good. So so the sandwiches are either wrapped in a beautiful green wrapper featuring that color palette or they're in in in some some some clear rappers as well. But it does sort of set the scene as you turn the corner and walk into any concession stand. Your confronted with bins and rows of bins containing mostly these these sandwiches in in green wrappers, and the first thing that catches one's attention is the pricing. It ranges between a dollar fifty and might run all the way up to two three dollars are the prices still in in that order of magnitude. My man brother Bill. Lowered this year. Seen two fifty. So they're trying to help out the the man they understands the tough economy out there. So bring ten dollars king for the day. And honestly, that's all you need at least in the concession stands merchandise little different different radio. But yeah, it's not only the dollar fifty say much. But it's the best thing that you've ever had which is part of the reason why love going down here. Yeah. The golf courses great watching tiger and Ville and all those guys their thing. But for me, it's really all about the dude. So let's talk about your story. What your favorite masters sandwich says about you? This is been up for about a week now. And this is built on your years and years of experience as an attendee as a as a as a veteran of the masters concession of fair and Justice set the stage there are what six seven eight seven or eight say, which is that are available right? Yes there and then to breakfast sandwiches, you count those which I don't because those things are lethal that even this morning. I was walking on Amen Corner's. The first thing I do ever you wanna get here. And I saw poor guy. Just kind of sitting on the on the pioneers right behind twelve said, you okay? And he just shook his hey goes too many biscuits to many biscuits, though, those coming down, you gotta be careful when you do the breakfast, chicken or sauces biscuit. They're fantastic. But they will they will weigh you down something fierce. Yes. So that's let's go ahead and do a little bit of strategy first before we get into the sandwiches. And what what they may reveal about the kind of of persons. We might be the breakfast sandwiches are really only for a very specific demographic to my way of thinking. Now, I I I in in my own experiences. Enjoying Gusta national in all it has to offer. I like to eat four times over the course of a day, and none of those four meals for me include breakfast because I like to have my first meal of the day around like eleven or eleven fifteen and I wanted to be one of the sandwiches. I don't wanna deploy calories on the biscuits. The only reason to me to have a breakfast. Biscuit is if you know, you're going to be there for like a long stay if you're down in Gusta, you're able to go to multiple days of the turnament you're going to or your. Multiple days of practice. Sessions and then the tournament then maybe you can squeeze one in just for the variety of it. But a serious kind of eating strategy to me, you focus squarely on the sandwiches. And then the snacks and dessert that that do you agree with that that strategy? The only caveat for allowing a breakfast sandwich. Let's say you're just going to set up shop at a whole or in the bleachers. And you're gonna be there for a couple of hours at that point. I might consider digesting one of those car car as I'm, but I I'm with you, it you gotta patriot self that you hear this all the time. But you really don't experience get here. Gus nationals of very very hilly place. And you you can burn yourself out easily by wind yourself down with some of these items. I'm with the lights and start off that which is I always do out or mental as I picks always goes down smooth, especially everyone was talking about the mental. But the out to me is the real winner. So you get both of those in your system, and you're off hecklers start. So let's go ahead and to pursue the sandwiches. The descriptions of them in the vein, which you've set the south in the story. We'll start with your champion your champion is exiled. If a if you're a dick style kind of person what kind of person, are you? If you're an Salik me, you're the club champ. You are the most popular guy in the room. You're the guy you're like JAMES BOND. You know, the women want you the men wanna be you. It's something that I think you'll hear exile. And they roll their eyes at once you had it you realize it's it's been it's like meal for kings. It's the king of kings meal. It's it's doing that. I can't compare it to there's a reason why the eggs out here so special, and it's just so normal everyone else because can't replicate what you have go national. So you hear a lot about the mental the great, but nothing comes close to touch, the eggs salad. At least for me. How I don't know if you've had before. But it it is world changing. Well, first of all Joe Bill. You know, I I've been fortunate enough to make it too many masters, and I've had every single sandwich. I've had every single item available to be consumed in the concession stands, including I've tried every single beer every out of the the nuts. I've had there's not the the every potato chip. There's nothing available at the masters that hasn't passed my lips. I mean, I I'm a food expert allegedly or at least, I'm food. That was. Well. How would you respond egg salad can be divisive? Not everybody likes egg salad. It's not like men as where there are. You know, you're on one side or the other. And you know, you can't there's no bridge to cross, but there is a contingent out there that does not like excel at what would you say to those folks? How can we get them over their eggs salad aversion and introduce this this particular iterating to them in a way that might be palatable. I would say for looking to near clearly the problem with you. I I don't know what happened childhood feel this way exile in general. But tonight over your mind, the fact that this masters 'cause he might blow your mind, I just feel sorry for that poor bastard because they have no idea what they're missing, so please. But whatever version you have X out aside and just trust in this one. I would not lead you stray when it comes to call an culinary matters. Like this so eggs out. You have to go all in no matter what type of free conceived notions. You have. And I would also add I agree with everything. We just said the other thing that I might add is if you're you know, I it's a southern delicacy. And there's a particular way that they make it in the south. So even if you have a general version to egg salad hold your nose and just try half a one or try couple bites these day, which is are not very big. You can really get the the full flavor out of just just a couple because they do pack them to the gills. That's part of the the the overall economic beauty of this. You can really fill up on just two or three sandwiches in one sitting. This is why I say I have four meals over the course of a day, but just have a couple bites. So that you can go ahead and say, you know, you open your mind to that southern experience to the masters experience. And it puts you in the right frame of mind to take on all that the thing the whole event has to offer. So let's proceed from. Egg salad. Let let's let's turn our attention. You mentioned a couple times the Pimento cheese. It is famous at Augusta because it is again, I think it fits that profile kind of being something that you is not an ordinary walk a life food folks coming from all over the country. You can't get this version this iteration of Ponente cheese sandwich, and in particular, mental cheese sandwiches are thing of the south, anyhow what what kind of person loves the Pimento cheese. Before that. I I we have to hit on what you say. Because you're you're dead on can't replicate this we've actually had world downshifts coming off it giving their version of meant that she early trying replicate it in. They didn't even come close. One guy was four miss Lott. Iran, ah or star Michelin restaurant in New York. So it again one of those things but only in how to do. And man, do they do it. Well, and I get I if you mentioned early there's crowded hang their head around valid. I'm imagining a bigger contingent of people who think jeez and go. No, thanks, and it is a little weird. You hear it, and you go this can't really be that good. And then you put it down your throat and oh baby. It goes down every time. And it's one of those where I think I'm with you. I usually make four or five cents a day. And every time there's always at least one Minto grab because it's that good. And you feel like you're doing yourself to service by not going. So I it's something that it really might take you. A trip due to get useful. But it is something else. Eighty. So on that note, and I was going to spring this on you. But I at the end, but I think I'll go ahead, and and just rake the seal now, so my particular strategy at this stage of life having had the experience of been down going down a number of times. I now think and this is also true of the salad that after you have gone ahead and taken advantage of all of the options available sandwich wise that it there is an opportunity to start intermingling flavors, and tastes and profiles. And I think a couple of sandwiches lend themselves to being a gussied up a little bit. So that the the first time I ever had the Ponente cheese sandwich. At at Augusta. I wasn't prepared for how rich it is. So it is it's a it's a creamy version of the Pareto preventative cheese spread that is the contents of the sandwich. All by itself is already just a naturally cheesy kind of a deliverable. But there it is particularly rich version. That's that's delivered at Gus nationally serve it on wonder bread, which is very soft and has the effect of when when you bite into it a big the first bite, depending on how big your bite is. I'm a big biter it it can kind of like take up the for the top half of your mouth. Right. 'cause it's it's that that wonder bread is sticky and the the creamy Pimento cheese part, and you almost kinda like yet you have to be patient with it. You can't just try and blast through it. It's not a blast through kind of sandwich. But the. The thing that I want to make everybody understand. There's nothing wrong with mixing and matching and I'll share my favorite hack, my favorite master sandwich hack at the end of this. But I want, you know, folks to have the right kind of open mind when they encounter this the first time and understand that that, you know, there's no judging you can have this mental cheese sandwich, you know, as a standalone or mixed in with others. You can have a bite of a mental cheese than a bite of Turkey and cheese on wheat there. A whole bunch of different ways to enjoy do. Do you agree with me brother Bill? This is why I'm glad to the podcast because I also have very similar hybrid eating with the show at least in the afternoon, and I'll usually take by that as well as a bite of a classic real chicken classic sandwich. And occasionally if I'm feeling I've been a little too ambitious in the day that I need a girl chicken. I'll put that as well. But I just want to disabuse you that. You're not alone in this endeavour because not only do at least three other people who do not grant doom had heart attacks in the AUSSIE some wondering if there's any correlation between. I style. But hey, I can think of no better way than going out than with cheese sandwich. My mouth. No, I'm worried to to them had heart attacks. I mean, this is now kind of happy that I'm not able to make it down to the master this season. 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That's ZipRecruiter dot com slash eight or BS ZipRecruiter dot com sized carbs recruiter. The smartest way to hire. Let's quickly treat the ham and cheese on rye and Turkey and cheese on wheat. You know, you we dispense with them quickly. If you're a ham and cheese on rye kind of person what kind of person are we talking about? I mean, I think you're like the parents from what's the foot was you're just fire and brimstone you same thing every day, you were the same suit everyday anytime a golfer. I'm sure if you look at these Nike Blake collars thinks the devil's work you really wanna roll back the ball. You're just a very plain person, which that's okay. That's we're not judging, but has no life. What's letter? I I've no idea why you would get him and cheese all these other options disposal and then for the Turkey. And jeez, I barely consider that sandwich. There's just no taste whatsoever. At it's the one thing I would say this Gulf war, and this really let you down and for years I've been trying to get them to get off the menu. I think it's actually used for profiling purposes, that's the only way I can justify why don't menu. Well, I have a slight disagreement with with both. I think they both round out the offering and give you sometimes you need a bite of a sandwich that is a little down the middle. It's like the the two o'clock sandwich that I want with with like the dark import beer, sometimes the beers more important than the food, but I'm not going to the concession stand and not getting a sandwich. So to me, the ham and cheese and the Turkey and cheese. They play that role as like snack accompaniments to the beer that I'm intent on. So if I'm going with what I would recommend is like your to thirty double fisting, but you, you know, the bag the sandwich bag isn't a little rapper. So you can hold two beers and hold your sandwich and go somewhere and sit down. That's not a problem. The transport's not an issue. But while your nail in those two beers. Go ahead and have a couple. Nights of the ham and cheese on rye, just to make sure that that, you know, there's some sustenance going along with with the liquid nourishment that that's my thought on that one or more importantly used the beer to wash that out of your mouth because that's the way I look at it. But they know what they're doing. So I who am I who am I to judge. Well, well, what once Dan wish that we're not in a hurry to wash out of our mouths. That's the barbecue say, which this is the to me the most underrated say which offering on the menu tell let's tell the folks about the barbeque dosage. It it's for as much pub as meant of the barbecues just thrown in there. In fact, you rarely hear about the barbecue outside of the confines of the gusto, which I don't know how we're in the south. They don't it's impossible to do barbecue wrong down here, and that applies the sandwich really hitches from the first bite to the last at you. You definitely worry that you know, you're starting to your grandma on the white tunnel. After after you have one or two these bad, boys. But all it's so good. The only time I worry about is. When you get these hot. Steamy days down here that's on the barbecue you can flush under stomach a little bit. But you're getting a barbecue sandwich. Knowing that really accused you of being a smart guy in the first place, but for barbecue fishing, not as you can really do yourself a disservice. Missing this way, it's worth your time. Yeah. I mean, it is it doesn't pretend to be, you know, upper echelon pulled pork barbecue it is. It is a representation it is a southern tradition. And for me personally. It's a it's like it's a sort of pulled pork sandwich and the sauce that they use tends to be in the south tends to be a little sweeter than I like. I mean that we know we're not talking about North Carolina vinegar based sauces here. This is kind of a sweeter sauce, I personally like to get two packets of the Texas Pete hot sauce that is available there through the copious economists, Dan, and I I'm a two pack person. I like to each side of the bun. So that I get that taste of heat, the taste of the the sort of a you know, that that Tabasco kind of flavor profile to cut through the sweetness of the barbecue sandwich. But I thank the the barbecue sandwiches. You know, especially, you know, it it is if I may say one of the ones that I order at the beginning of the day because I just think it sets a whole flavor of a flavor trajectory that I wanna be on. You you are more men than the because I love it too. But I think it in the afternoon because I've been canceled. My next forty five minutes appointment, I need to be sitting down maybe laying on the banks of the sixteenth hole. But once I had the same which I done though, man, if I I was the day more power to you. But he says I even thinking about that makes me wanna take into nap. Well, I, you know, I I do John not when I'm at the at Augusta not there to work. So I do have that advantage over you. And we will talk about the advantage that you have as a as a medium member there to cut the national and how they treat members on the media with the cuisine, but we have two more sale witches. We should we should briefly reference. Then we're gonna talk a little bit about some hacks with these CEO, which is that I personally have enjoyed. We have the classic chicken CEO. Which the you mentioned that when we have the masters club. And then we have a grilled chicken wrap. Let's quickly treat these classic chicken CEO. Which what kind of person are you if that's your go to? I compare this to the former high school quarterback who tend to think tend to remember his better than he was and not to say, the chicken sandwich is bad. I mean, I it's quite good. But not that all state performer that we tend to embellish it as and I think it kind of hurts. There's really good chicken places down here in the south especially in Georgia in against that. Again, it's not a bad thing. But once you've had the delicacies in Athens in Atlanta, there's nothing quite do the trick. And I it just it's a little bit of a letdown. At least for me, I compare the items on the list, I think going to the rest of the grilled chicken. That's strictly a health health manual held item. There. I it's not bad. But good gravy will everything else. We've run list you're gonna real checking up. I guess you're dieting only I can think of as for the masters though. That's actually pretty good. I don't know how you feel about house. But to me, I think it's the third best name which on the on the list always. Delivers very good kind of that. Can dependable consistent veteran you need on an NBA team. You don't want to build a team around. But he's missing piece that this. This is the master club. You bring in to shore up the locker room. It's always good things. You know, you're getting it messes club. You really have no bad things to say. I agree with you. I also agree with the contention that is the third best sandwich. Now, the reason that I wanted to group these last three sandwiches last is because I believe these are the vehicles that are that are best adapted to a true flavor. Profile hack. These the ones that present the best option to introduce some some of the other stay which is some the other play favor profiles and really makes a magic happen. Now, you've already alluded to this. This is not that, you know, biggest secret in terms of a hack, the classic chicken sandwich. Use the word. Embellishment it needs. And embellishment. But that does create opportunities. There are two or three different ways of I think the classic chicken sandwich can be gussied up one way that I love, and this is also so this is my my way that I arrive at Augusta National the first time I'm going to eat it. It is a three sandwich to beer meal because I'm planning I it's it's in that eleven eleven fifteen range in what I wanna do is walk the back nine. So the sustenance that I need at that the concession. I don't go to the concession at the very entrance way. I walk over to the one behind seven because I'm headed is the back nine I wanna walk the back nine before of there's a ton of people in the ton of play. And this is a practice day strategy, and you know, some of the traffic will be dictated by who got out win. And what what threesomes are out there playing what the gambling matches are between the guys. But most of the time if you if you get to the back nine on the first half of the day, you can have you can have a little more alone time back there. So my three sale, which is or the classic chicken sandwich. I or mental cheese. And I order a barbecue. I take half of the Pimento cheese. And I eat it immed-. Because that just feels like doing the golf gods. Correct. I this is my genuflection. Thank you for another year. Thank you for having me. I'm honored to be here that that sort of thing, I take the other half of that Pimento cheese sandwich. And it be an I take the chicken out of the classic chicken sandwich. Am I wrap that chicken inside of that that half Ponente cheese becomes a chicken Chiesa, which I take the bun both sides of the bun, and I put a mustard on one half and hot the Texas Pete on the bottom half, and that becomes a sandwich have mustered and then a cheesy wrapped chicken breasts and then Texas hot on the bottom. That's a pretty nice by the flavor right there. What do you think about that hack? I wish I had video. I'm standing up the my clapping at that strategy mentioned before the barbecues the only I think we diverge from. But that's just because I I don't have the constitution that you have or the fortitude, I should say and my goodness. That is as quite the order, and I can't think of no better way to start the day with with the panoramas of Gus national surrounding you'll as you mentioned, it's more serene in the morning. During a practice round the head that in your belly. And then front you ride what better way to live life? Thank you. Joe bill. I'm honored. I mean, this is coming from from genuine masters experts at the other stay which they ordered. This is another kind of hack, and I'll have to give a tip of the hat to our old friend, Charlie Reamer from from the golf channel and former PGA tour pro now, he does thing where he takes the barbecue pork, and he gets some pickles and he adds the hot sauce, and he puts potato chips in there. I personally just hot sauce and potato chips, and then that becomes my walking sandwich. So the barbecue in my first meal day is my walking the tenth hole sandwich. I usually I'm not in a hurry because I have a whole day in front of me. And I have one hand in a beer one hand on a sandwich. This is the beauty of not being able to have a cell phone out on the golf course, you know, the especially during tournament play you can have there's a way to take pictures. You might have. Camera, but you can have your camera around your wrist the first day practice, round wise, but beer in hand barbecue, pork the chips, the crunch of the chips, and the added salt of chips helps take out some of the the sweetness that is just a little too sweet for me. And that's my my walking sandwich. That's not a huge hack. But what have you tried anything along those lines before Mr. Bill? I honest Rymer is a different animal, and he's preached this for quite a many years. And I've always thought he was crazy, but uring in your testimony, actually, did not I purposely. Void at lunch just gonna build the taste. But for our conversation that by the salvation over over our conversation. But yeah, I I'm heading out to the front nine after this. And I think to try to go to war off the report back, and that's like your findings like I'm in for treat. I love it. We'll look if if it's a good experience feel free to tweet out there. I mean, we can give a preview all the hug me home. All these taste buds will hear this. The show will be up Wednesday afternoon giver, take let's go ahead and let everybody know that you, and I had a conversation in your giving thumbs up on one portion will tease everybody with this. This terrific experience that you have in front of you here. Now to other things we're gonna move on from the sandwiches. I feel like we've really done everybody that's headed down there, a good service, and all of you listeners Taus carbs that that haven't had a chance to make it down there. Hopefully, we we have put you in the right frame of mind. And as you watch the tournament this weekend feel free these recipes are online, there are a lot of folks that have attempted to replicate co-head make your own set of Proventil cheese sandwiches for watching the masters on Sunday. Now, I have you for this limited time we have to share with. Folks as a member of the media at Augusta National the Greenjackets really pull out all the stops. They want every single human being the passes through the gates to leave the the experience believing that something transport of something transformational has happened and part of the way they do that with the media is is by feeding them. So let's hear a little bit about this year spread. There's a restaurant built into the media center. Open four times a day, and whatever your vision right now of a southern buffet style breakfast times that by three and that's what we're looking at it on a daily basis, the sausage links are the size of your hand bacon about the size of normal encyclopedia southern grits. There's pancakes though, it's it really is every year. I think last year I came back eleven pounds of year as much as I love. My family has had nothing to do with the same as head to do. What what was going on in the morning, spreads afternoons more? They actually Brian to day at the ballpark watt. Hotdog bought a meat. There's there's a lot of sandwiches like belly meat type roll outs. And then dinner to be honest with you. I'm always out working that point. I I there's mazing famine and amazing chicken dinners as well. But here's the best part. How aside from that attached the restaurant Bodegas, Phil? With all the items we sandwich items, we've mentioned before plus them. I scream who the peach ice cream here. It is. I'm struggling I'm words that I'm showing to put the right type description to it back. Good. Actually, my people were going to Justice for this Ben and Jerry ever figure ending out close to the speech ice cream sandwich. Their stock would do getting busters. It really is an animal. You can't put enough. I noticed. It sounds like I I swear it you nothing, but the truth it really isn't experience. So this is the thing. I'm so glad that you mentioned this, and I can't encourage this enough to all of the hungry home as the taste buds Komori comrades out that that are lucky enough to get yourself down to gust Georgia to to experience part of masters week. If there's any recommendation that I make please please take this one on board, and it's a two-part recommendation in the first place, you mu-. During the course of your visit try one of the Georgia peach ice cream sandwiches on the grounds of Augusta National while you're walking around. It's a it's a beautiful late afternoon treat, and it really does it put in your mouth what you are seeing. With your is what you're experiencing in the air. What your ears are hearing in terms of the bees and the birds? It really does. It's it's a five senses stimulation experience, and you have to do that ice cream sandwich to get all five senses working in perfect harmony, but here is another hack for all you hungry homeys as you leave the day. And this is a specially effective for practice rounds because you don't need to be there for the entire day. You want to experience the course on the pace that you want experience it and fallen whatever player or two or three. You wanna see you get up close and personal? You can go to the range and watch. Some I can't recommend this enough. Get yourself to one of the concession stands and take four of those ice cream sandwiches and ask for a little bag and get yourself home as quickly as possible and stick those bad boys in the freezer wherever you're staying in or around or near Gusta. There is no time in the middle of the night. First thing in the morning wherever you may be in your day that having a bite out of one of those sandwiches that has slightly melted. And then been refrozen it. It just is too glorious to miss get yourself a to go ice cream sandwich. This is the whole point of attending the master's the go ice cream peach ice cream say which at a gusty national cannot get name. I'm with you. I don't know why they don't just award PGE ice cream with the green jacket should be part of the ceremony. It's that good is if any. Themselves into Thursday night blind that hopefully someone in power, here's this conversation. And then words that I can think of no better treat after seventy girl in hold on the Gulf in national and to be rewarded life read, really with the peach sandwich. That's what that what better trophy. Could man. What? We're not gonna do any better than that. We've got the trophy. We've got the green jacket. We've got the beautiful peach ice cream sandwich, hungry homeys, again, if you're not able to get down there. There are myriad opportunities to go online and make replicas of these delicious delicacies for yourself to get in the proper frame of mind. Spring is upon us here on the east coast. Everybody's excited to go play some golf Joel Bill. Thank you so much relating us on this drew terrific journey through the the Gusta national. Concession offerings out on brother anytime. Hungary homeys. There we go. Please hit us on the Instagram the house of cards with your homemade creations of masters food that you Kyle is Jones, and he wants to get a version of the Pimento cheese sandwich that that is a much closer approximation to to what he got down in the Gusta than what he's able to buy off the shelves out there in Los Angeles. So if you have a recipe for nephew, Kyle, please post it, please send it to at the house of cards. Let's do some genuine masters belly sourcing, and we'll be looking for your pictures and your recipes Attila next week, my taste buds. Let's stay hungry out there.

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I would say we're still suffering from the masters hangover, which wasn't really a hangover that seems like a negative thing. But it doesn't feels like we're still in the shadow of the masters. Yeah. I mean, anytime I see a clipboard picture or a highlight from desert or from RBIs heritage. I just exit out of that. And I just go to tiger highlights from. Yeah. I mean almost ruined this year of golf as now if he's he's set the bar so high of expectations. I mean, you think I can ever watch Zach Johnson play at Zurich classic while you gonna do that. I'm just saying it's like the most boring comparison, I can possibly think of that's I want to act Johnson. A classic is the exact opposite of tar. Woods winning the mess out of respect for me. I need you to fill in a different name for those for those times that you do that. Okay. It's a great point. I mean, I'll fucking we supposed to care to doing anything. Am again. The rest of the year Zad Johnson's of the world going out New Orleans. They're down in harbor town. Fucking kidding me. Nice faster. Nice golf courses. Great tournaments line. Listen, maybe another year would have been into it. But like now we've got majors to win. We got. I mean, we got history too. Crazy. We're chasing fucking history. We're back. The chase is up. It's we're full steam ahead here. We got the big dick Eldrick out here slinging around in his green jacket with his red mock turtlenecks, the black pants looking like you got the machine like the Terminator arriving on site to capture the rest of the major championships that yes, a capture and we're talking about Zach Johnson or dessert class. It's literally like it's like every single week. It's the Pro Bowl right before the Super Bowl when they did that remember it was like oh. The fuck cares about this game. We got the biggest game of the year next week. Like, oh, great. Go play in. The fuck pro ball in Hawaii. Go get your life hacks in we got real players playing next week. That's what I'm thinking about every time. I watch a Zurich classic and Jack Johnson stepping up to two. That's what I'm thinking about. Now jostled even play desert. Right now, he's even playing. I'm sitting right here. And I made a request that you guys stopped inserting executives his name into those scenarios, Brits networker, Matt Kuchar, bring these names up instead Z Jay was just the first name that came to Frankish my when he thought. Credibly boring golf that. I don't care about time. Major. He he doesn't have it on boom. Achievable incredible. Will it looks resume. For. We'll be not be participating at TPC Louisiana's looking at these. You know, it's tough break-up kids is back with his guys Scott Brown from the same town ache in South Carolina. That's a team you gotta root for out there. But it is. It's just it's a weird. It's a weird place to be in this whole post tiger has won the masters world. He is I believe going to play next week at quail hollow. He always plays there. That is a major type course, that's obviously were JT won his PGA championship not that long ago year and a half ago. So, you know, quail halls cool that'll kind of get the juices going. It'll be really really interesting to see big dick Eldrick in the wild. After having won the master's like playing golf on just a Thursday. Yeah. It's almost like if he doesn't he doesn't shoot zero to. It's like what what happened. Yes. He's doing. Obviously we want to see him play as much as possible. He's healthy is winning golf tournaments. But getting the juices flowing isn't going to be the same as when we seem tee it up at Bethpage. It's just not going to be the same at quail hollow. I can't even like, so we're obviously going to be out of Beth Badri talked about it. We teased it. We are basically just we're letting you know that we're going to be all over that goddamn golf course that entire state park with five golf courses. Bethpage Black one of the great courses in America. One of the maybe maybe the best public course in America. I know there's probably got a bunch of others. But bet pages up there. It's about as good as it gets watching that guy tee off there as the guy who has won the most recent major championship as a guy who won the two thousand and two US open. There is going to be something with all the New Yorkers. All you. Crazy, lunatic crusty log islanders out there. Frankie greasy. Oh, so crazy just fucking Chirpin tiger. It's gonna be great. It's going to be absolutely fucking awesome. I we got a bunch of headlines to to get to. So let's go through some of these I want to start with this family has been charged for reselling masters. Tickets says four members of Texas family, charged federal crimes were proxy say was a scheme. Mm that you stolen identities to get tickets to the masters, then resell those tickets at a healthy profit is asked to be one of the biggest mistakes I've ever heard of somebody make. Yeah, I was gonna say two things one biggest mistake anyone could ever make because you know, how the master's operates and to this is how the masters gets us reputation. And I'm glad they threw the hand. Like, they threw the book at these. Oh, yeah. Like, if you if you wanna have the reputation and the intimidation factor that Gus the national and the masters has you have to take opera -tunities like this and turn the screws as tightly as you can't on the people that try to do these things. Look, these people write these people and people like them they're out there. They're slinging March madness tickets. They're slinging Super Bowl tickets. They're slinging NHL playoff tickets NBA wherever they want their slinging them. No problem. Not a word out of peop- from anybody. The second you start slinging and reselling Augusta National federal charge. Are you fucking kidding me? You go into like Guantanamo Bay for that on the supreme court. Like those like seven judges are there for like how many judges are they're they're just up there for dead. There's not and that is up there forever. They're going to be talking about masters reselling tickets. That's how serious this shit is smoke in the world. You don't wanna Gus a national smoke? I imagine that the supreme court justices when they come out for that hearing. They got Greenjackets. Oh, yeah. They come out. They they dropped the big the black garbs, they drop all that stuff. They come out with green jackets on they sit there. And now, you were reselling masters tickets, you try to fool you tried to trick the lottery the masters lottery, I hope that in like twenty years in history and law books that there's a Freeman v the masters threemen via Augusta National just a picture of the supreme court. He L in green jacket, sit there and this poor fucking family from Texas family of four Stephen Michael Freeman caddy, Texas, just got caught in the fucking shrapnel. God if you're gusting national. Oh, you definitely want to make supreme court judges members. Right. You just have them back pocket. I wouldn't be surprised if all of them are already members. I mean, those guys they're out there getting to play golf, whatever the hell they want. And if they're not that's probably because they voted against the master's in cases like this. Where you will. You will be on the side of Augusta National you will make sure they get their way and this family the poor Freemen's. They have no fucking clue what they're going up against you. Explain it perfectly. These people don't like pick and choose which tickets Selva get tickets like basically brought to than the pearly on a ticket ring. And someone's like, hey, hey, Steven, I have these tickets. Do you wanna reselling you could probably make a thousand bucks is like, yeah. No problem. And then ten seconds later. He's in jail says the family purchased bulk mailing list to obtain names and addresses of people that were used to create fake accounts for Gus nationals online ticket lottery going to the court documents. Those accounts are submitted with Email addresses controlled by Freeman. And his relatives. The family would then ask got Augusta National to change the address. Associated with the bogus accounts using false, driver's license. False utility bills and false credit card statements, and the identity of the fake user accounts. We're dealing with full blown criminals. This isn't some like all I accidentally sold this thing that I had. And I didn't know what I was doing. They were taking out fake names and fake addresses. I mean mess with the bull. You get the horn five seconds of guys just thought they were part of a ring. Now, they are they are there. I didn't. I mean, they're they're pulling fake names. They're making fake documents. This is insane. Magin the balls of these people. They would then ask Augusta National to change the addresses associated with what the fuck are you doing? You're begging Augusta National come to your goddamn doorstep with a gun. In fucking blow your head off. What about you moron? So anyways, these guys it's not gonna end up well for these people absolutely no chance while we're talking about tiger a little bit a couple tidbits from Tigray, my favorite is from Sergio Garcia. It says Sergio was trunk slamming early for the second straight year at Augusta aka missed the cut second straight year since winning that did not stop him from catching a piece of master's history. Two Sundays ago or see you said he was watching along on TV as Tiger Woods captured his fifth green jacket and completed one of the more improbable comebacks in sports history. There's nothing sweeter than the image of Sergio Garcia having to sit down and his in his in his living room that his couch flip on TV. Like, I gotta watch tiger when the fucking masters, and then he drops all these lines. It's nice to see to impress to see someone even being Tigers good as he is to come back from four back surgeries. Be totally honest probably about three years ago. We all didn't know how how long he was going to be able to play for 'cause he was struggling to play five Tournus. That's a year, but all the credit in the world to him surgery. I see as any this shit. No. He's saying all the right things because he knows he didn't expect this data. Come. But now he knows he's got a TOA a fine line could because Tigers was back now. And he's he's got to be out there with kings Beck. He hang is back. He's had fun. This is like when you're like in recess and he's been running around playing kickball with all the kids and they've been playing hopscotch and like and they haven't heard the bell yet. They think the teacher like forgot about them and they had just running around free. And all of a sudden like he just heard that bell ring and he used to get back to his fucking desk because the teachers walking in and it's Tiger Woods. It's like a substitute teacher situation. Oh, you substitute is no longer there. It's now the main teacher is now back in his name is Mr. oh, and nobody nobody has ever been happier to see Mr. woods sick and out for a couple of days, and that substitute teacher 'cause little Sergio Garcia over here was able to slip himself into a green jacket during that time the fuck and Mr. woods had four back surgeries a million easier to resolve that no one's. Happier. No one's been rooting more for a body to break down. Then Sergio Garcia was rooting for. Tiger Woods his body to break out. And he got fucking Nassar's out of it isn't with a masters of Tigers in chance I guess even in the field that guy can't win the masters. You fucking kidding me? Literally. There's no way you see what happened to him at the Players Championship. It was that twenty fourteen twenty thirteen that year when Sergio and he and tiger in the mix that was when Sergio made a big stink outta tiger. Eric quotes, pulling a club out of his bag and make him the crowd. Go wild and Sergio's backswing and then Sergio down the stretch at two balls in the water on seventeen lost the third of it because he'd pulled out of a club out of his bag. This guy's like out there hitting San he's like he's whacking sand and wear Saudi Arabia. Saudi arabia. Tell me that he can't handle Saudi Arabian bunkers, but he can handle Tiger Woods. No. He's proven that. He can't handle Tyco with. This is a guy kissing the feet of his, you know, his dominant figure in his life. Tiger is the dominant figure in Sergio's life. He stepped onto this earth thinking that he could be just like a purse. Like, he could fulfil all his needs. And then there was a person that like just stopped him from doing that. And his name is tiger will have many. If you really think about right twenty seventeen surgery or SIA wins a master's got the green jacket. He's out at Wimbledon with the green jacket. Life is all over the place getting married. Doing great right now ever since then tiger's back missed the cut last year here I made like a thirty on the fifteenth hole. Asher believable clip on top of that. He's walking having meltdowns out in Saudi Arabia. He's Br he's ripping his his cleats across the greens. He splashing bunkers tires. Woods is back to restore order in the classroom. Oh, yeah. Tantrums on the greens are in bunkers does not doing that. If no what's good putt anymore. Like a good good stuff. He's he's been all over the point. See, Mr. woods. Just all Sergio's instruments are off with is back in town. Tiger Woods doesn't allow Sergio to be his peak person. Like he like tiger Sergio had a little window to be as as peak Sergio's. He could be Greg green jacket. Marilyn what they said he was living with he showed us the highest Sergio could get it's just hilarious that for all those years. Sergio wasn't allowed to get there because Tiger Woods just existed. He showed us what masters champion. I can have a great life if Tiger Woods never existed. He showed us for a brief window. What the world could be like for Sergio. How many major sister Joe Garcia have if Tiger Woods never exists negative five? Okay. I'll say, yeah. I was a little, hyper. Yeah. You can't have the math as a workout for you have major like he won five and then had to give him away. Yeah. Which would be awesome. Is he was cheating or something, but no Sergio Garcia. He doesn't have a green jacket. He doesn't really have anything. And this is just we've been able to contrast those two worlds. Sergio is world's one of very brief window into what it could have been like if Tiger Woods never existed. Mr woods. I guess you could call the teacher who's back in town. And then the other one where you know, Tiger Woods does exist and Sergio Garcia's entire life just melts down. He's got no clue as to apologize. Every week to got them train wreck. Folks, we have new gloves. We've been rocking new golf gloves. They are called bionic golf gloves. And these things are off the charts. They're developed by hand specialists. So I mean, that's pretty legit. Probably should now issue most clubs that they're just all generic, right? Like the glove. It's your hand the glove. It's your only contact point to the golf club. So needs to be important, right? Newsra field. Perfect. These feel as good as anything could feel yet. We always use the generic gloves Ono. No, no, not with bionic gloves. They have a patented pad system strategically evens out the natural peaks and valleys of your hand to allow for a more secure lighter grip on the club all that fancy stuff. I just said it just fits your hand. Perfect. Like, somebody molded it perfectly and golf you on avid consistence way. So what do you need to have a consistent swing? You want to have consistent glove feel and they have different types of gloves like different thicknesses and different whatever you're trying to go for I was using the more. It's like just an athletic fit felt like I could've it felt like I could harness anything in the world felt like an athlete trying to feel more like an athlete. You don't usually typically appear baseball wasn't exactly. That's my new line that I stayed one week when I'm standing there was one game. When I'm standing over myself when I'm sending over a ball. And I have a wedge Mahan. I say be an athlete one. Do you say? You want to be repeatable be by on? Because that there there is that their slogan, what kind of gloves you get. Oh, do you want to be biotic or get the biotic gloves to be by D by just solved the puzzle? Why might be on your consulting team there Trent? Yeah. You guys. A formidable squad unbelievable specialist be biotic innovative web zones. Help your hands breeze. So they can stay cool and dry. We got a special promo code for Aviva. Okay. VIV you're going to get twenty percent off all of their golf products. You are welcome code. Viva twenty percent off all their golf products. Go check them out at biotic gloves there on Seagrams there on Twitter on Facebook. All that stuff you go to gloves dot com slash golf by gloves dot com slash golf, code. Viva twenty percent off best clubs river rock. We have a new glove be biotic. You're welcome. Also on the Tiger Woods front. I just want to compliment him for being such a visionary. The hero world challenge will end on Saturday this year. Yup. To allow time for folks that are playing in the President's Cup, which is the following weekend to travel to Australia and prepare themselves. If you remember last year when a one Mr. woods, a big Eldrick won the tour championship he wanted on Sunday night and to play in France on Fridays. When the Ryder Cup started, you know, everybody's a little fatigue that seemed a little bit ridiculous. So the visionary that he is. He is. No, no, no at my tournament the hero world challenge. We will finish on Saturday. He's really banging on all cylinders right now is the outings is. Sergio Garcia would a green jacket on him. And he's just starts planning ahead. Like, you wouldn't believe just takes a couple of years for him. Just get back into his groove said this every single time. We've talked about it for years on this podcast. You just need you need Tigers get back to tiger. He is tiger. Now. He's tiger. Right. Everything's clicking. Everything's working his brains fire. His house is giving him everything he needs. Everything is going up doesn't have to leave the house. He doesn't have to leave. I bet you Tiger Woods with two back surgeries ago needed to leave the house. Yeah, right now or less willing to be like, yeah, I'll do that. But now he doesn't leave that house. I bet you two surgeries ago. He had to go to not gay and like tell him things now. Notably gay comes to his out. Correct. That didn't know to begin hangs around the windows. House would look over his head peering in just writing stuff down to the he's doing a little bit Oculus thing in the windows. Was he doing there? What can I report on Gulch come on? Oh, I saw shadow, and then he writes down so he's all tiger shadow heading towards kitchen looks to be in some oatmeal. There. That's good. So I was at Tigers house over the weekend as out front in the in the lawn as able to appear through the window. It looks like he's eating tiger has been like he's actually going with more pulp this week because it's actually helping him get through adversity. That's the first version of notice. And then by the time, he's on golf channel. He says Tigers healthy he's back to eating correctly. Everything's going well with it. He has jetting vitamin c into vitamin D And see it's like just eating fruit. Yes to go back into the little guest house that tiger allows them to stay in kalihi. Esta analyze all his notes and turn them into real saints. How can I make these into things that sound presentable on national TV to like a real audience able to? I mean at this point. I wouldn't be surprised my turn on fucking game seven Tigers suited up. It has a hat trick for like. No, he's just he can't miss. We've also got Michelle. We only talk about Michelle we really quickly. Michelle new moves the needle. There's really no doubt about that. I don't know what it is anytime. She does anything. Her name her storyline. The headline on any golf website. It's just up near top go on golf channel that com today. Like, the first story is like Michelle we says she's going to quote, take some time away from golf I click on it. I gotta read about it. I don't know what it is. She just kind of moves the needle she'd be going through all kinds of arm and wrist surgery staff for longtime all kinds of bad stuff. Remember, she was doing the papal top putting thing. I don't know. If she still does that I think she abandoned that did she abandon that? Yeah. Yeah. A while. It was that. Oh, frank. I'm talking tabletop full ninety degree tilt at the hips is how she potted full ninety degrees. Richie. This for Frank our internet's horrific, you wouldn't believe it is you got to see some of his this. These clips Frank of her putting like, that's the most ridiculous. She looks like a Flamingo. Just off the charts. Her doing the tabletop putting wish she nailing putz. I mean, she was putting okay, right. I mean, she how badly does that hurt your back? Well, now, she's got a million injuries, and she's been out forever. But imagine that that's that. I mean that has to be the reason look at that thing that that is not how you're supposed to. That's really the best way to put it. When old Tom Morris? Right. When he was like, we're making golf mainstream people are into it. Nobody was looking at the time Moore's and him going. You know, what if you really wanna put properly bend at the ninety degree angle? So that you're back fucking falls out. And then make a putt straighten your legs to the point where that is the most uncomfortable thing I've ever seen human do ever hurts. My back looking at it. Our knees are inverted, so anyways, she's gone through a lot of stuff. She putted like that for a while. It was a great name too. I think it's just that. That's why she gets headlines. Michelle we show and she was like crowned like this prodigy threats for that. That has tons of legs. No matter how the career go say Michelle, we'd of some random person on the street, and they may know like, yes. Like female golfer, like just Michelle we yeah. Right. So it's like how you know just certain like figure skating names like from the Olympics. Oh, I was just gonna say one, and I just was. Like, and I just can't remember one Tonia Harding. Yeah. There you got. I mean that she's that's that's a little different. That story was. So who's the one I've taught him Michelle Kwan Michelle Kwan shell Crohn's up. That's just like, you know, it's a figure skater it's just that name just as Societa with the figure skating, I see the ice on a here that name Michelle Kwan. I I know this is going to be Chrissy Yamaguchi Christie. How like that is just I see the ice. I could see her Tope pick up when I hear Michelle. We I see I well now I'm going to see her doing that ridiculous. Putting but yeah, now, I just see grass, and I see like, I see lady golf, do you? Remember when I used to run into Michelle, we all the time all the time. What does that my weird relationship where I run into Michelle we in random places didn't see coming coming up in elevator. I was watching PFC commenters dog. And I was taking LeRoy out for a walk and took the elevator down in the lobby of that apartment building. She was walking in with her friend, and they stopped and petted PFC's dog, LeRoy, so insane. And then a couple of times I've seen her. I saw that Aparna building. I've seen her twice at Starbucks just moon. Michelle, we is in New York. There's a chance that I'm going to say she's like a if if if you're plugged into a matrix. Yeah. She's like an Easter egg to your matrix. It's like a sign from the matrix greater that something when I see on her story that she is going to be in New York. I'm like, all right. Well, I'm gonna run in commission at some come up with what I'm going to say it's small talk to Michelle week running through. It was so strange when I ran into her in that lobby. I was like that's Michelle. We and she's now petting this dog that I'm watched Trenton, I hung out with her at a at a rooftop party one time. Yes, we did. We had a beer what Michelle we we? Did. She was nice. She was there. Nice. Very tall. Crazy tall. She's got a star power look to her. I'm gonna throw another get name. It you guys. See if you know who this is Apollo. Oh, no. Nice. That's the speed skater. Right. Speed skater. Oh. Get. I may not have gotten. But then James doing a huge like. Familiar, but I'd never would've thought speed skating. But I do think if an average person just walks up to another person and says Michelle we they're like, oh that's at golfer for sure. Right. So she's kind of has that star power anyways. To speak to that star power. Now, how much how much you think your net worth is six point two million dollars. Quick Kugler has twelve mil-. Holy not a bad luck in life who shall we? While not a bad career. I got a little stat for you. Michelle. We I played in her first PGA tour of at the age of fourteen years old ridiculous and missed the cut by one shot. Oh is that insane. That is ridiculous hurt LPGA career earning six point seven mill, but they're estimating that like with Nike indoors. She got time Nike Hughes ration-. So she's got after all that. Right. What's Michelle, we now thirtyish? Yeah. She got to be somewhere around there. Michelle with all of that. Right. All that star power all that prodigy playing a PGA tour event at age fourteen. Right. If you're planning PJ torment, you're almost making the cut at age fourteen you'd think you'd just be dusting the women right on the lady golf tour. Oh, no, no, no. She's only got five LBJ tour wins. She did win the two thousand fourteen US open at Pinehurst doesn't. She had all the tape. Member of the tape. All over the place. Yes. Those clips I remember I blocked her after that victory. She was working with the trophy. Correct. Was one of my biggest blogs early on at this at this job. Which was great. Yeah. Great bog and great move, my heart. It'd be talking with the trophy seems like a pretty cool check. Yeah. I think a lot of it too out of people suspected that. She had like insane parental pressure. And you know, kind of like they they ran the show and made her feel super nervous all time, and like she had to do things their way, and that she and all that good stuff. Everybody understands what I'm talking about. Now, she is doing this whole had an encouraging visit with my doctor IRA both figures in my best interests take some time away to allow my body to heal properly and get stronger her swing coach David Leadbetter was coming out and say like she needs to take a bunch of time off this that she's just an interesting case. And now when you look at her swing just doesn't look, right. It's like looks like fucking short like my fucking sweat. It just doesn't let us, you know. It's like that's not correct. She supposed to. Be you know, she's supposed to have like this more fluid natural motion all at so, Michelle. We take time away figured we would talk about it would love to see her get back to the top of a game feel. She can be superstar. Yeah. I mean, you like you said right now in our current state. It's obviously not going that well at all, but she still draws tons of people's attention. We're talking about are on this podcast. So, yeah, if she could get back to some form, she's winning golf tournaments again, she would be huge. And I would love to see her at a Starbucks shell so tight with our girl Danielle king, very good friend. They're like besties. Yeah. They are. And Kanter is one of our favorites. Maybe are maybe the number one favorite. She's our she's by far the number one. She is the people's ladies golfer. Correct. And she always will be I believe the I don't see anybody taking that title for see anybody because you met Michelle we multiple times. And she didn't like it's not like something clicked, right? She would have been she would have been the people's golfer, and she you can't be hers sort of stature. And like I said about the prodigy stuff. You can't be a people's. Oh for with that sort of reputation right now. I agree with that Kager two's been playing some great golf lately. I'm just looking right now on the last segment she played in or last ten minutes. Pop it up which finished on April. Twentieth. A couple of days ago kanger with the top five finish finished. He five ten under par. Just six off the lead. Brooke Henderson love her by the way, you know. She's like one of the biggest stars in Canada. No candidate loves her. Really? Yeah. That is something that I definitely did not know a massive massive starred cat, at least she's on the billboards and stuff, I think, so that's something. Isn't that something that is something? Brooke henderson. She's young. Yeah. Pretty damn y'all. Only one twenty one years old. She got a major championship one. She did win. I think last year too. She won the Canadian tournament in Canada, obviously, and she's Canadian. So it was like home crowd all kinds of crazy stuff going on. It's like, Drake. Justin bieber. Brooke henderson. I mean, maybe hockey guy in there. But yeah, oh, yeah. I'm not a big hockey is. Yeah. But I I mean, she's fucking you power rankings. I didn't realize I can't remember type in Brooke Henderson and says people also searched for Eric Carlson. She's up there. They're talking Carlson. He's been big. I know it's like that's insane. Right. Eric carl. Let's sick by the association last night. I was watching the fucking San Jose game that game. Oh my God. That game was outrageous comes the almost hockey talk on former not going gonna get into it. But that I have to takeaways from that game number one being that's the worst dog should call ever seen. You can't make it. You can't let the crowd influence. You can't let what happens after the hit influence how bad the penalty is like whatever the hit was that is the penalty. I don't care if the guy gets taken over the emotional emotional call now, I'll say this. You can't give up four goals on one power play. I don't I understand. I understand that it all the momentum got sucked out of that fucking Vegas team. And they had their backs the wall but make a goddamn safely. Like a save. We're not going to talk about it. But if they don't make that call they Vegas wins a million percent of the time. They win that game. They win the series that call legitimately changed the entire series. Having said that I've never heard of anybody go to four goals on one penalty. You just can't do. Can't force. I don't know that much about hockey. But you just can't you have five minutes to bear down clearer puck stop every single shot that goes into stop one of them. Just stopped one shot flurry kit. Just you have to stop the puck. Once did they go four for four. I honestly think it was like six shots. Four goals. There wasn't four goals in no matter. Four minutes maybe score four goals in hockey game. You scored four in a one powerboat powerful. Somebody got like one pretty bad like pass interference call nation gave up four thousand pounds isn't. That's what we were at pop punk, which I don't know if you can hear my voice, but I am complete dog shit garbage. Right now. Outrageous reality is that in the time between we did the last show, and we did this show. Frankie just went to completely different state went to college sold out a massive bar was a rockstar for and then he just is back in here. Just doing a golf podcast crazy the rockstar like the rockstar little like thing that we do is in the same. Like, we before we go out on stage. Like, there's no way we're actually doing this year. The second life. When you go do those things you sneak away to where all your drum onstage for hundreds of people, and you come back nature wish we continue to treat you like Franky with his weird facial hair maker. Other faiths and maker stuff. You you're a rockstar for those few hours. We're in the tunnel. Like waiting to go out and you hear the crowd like chaining pop punk. We're walking onto a stage with like these lights on us and people going crazy them we like play all the songs that we love. It's fucking nuts. Like, we look like what is why are people here? Number one. Number two. Why are they listening to us? Like what's going on? You're like the movie twenty one where they just on the week their college students go to Vegas like millions of dollars here except we're just doing instead of money. We're doing like life experiences. Yes, you're literally like a famous rockstar one night every month. So funny. So -rageous hair going had the curls going over bandanas. Like hoodoo hell, I think I also like a superhero in that way. It's nice sort of get into this different land. You you dress up, and you do this thing. Then you come back and people pretend like you're normal. Yeah. We got back. I mean that show ended up to a waffle house. I know you've been to a waffle house. Oh, yeah. Huge Wafaa house guy too. I knew Trent was she. You know that because I've told you previously about it or look at my face, and you go at that's a wolf from Iowa dines at off there's no waffle houses in Iowa. Really? It's perkins. That's. Your wildfires. Got you are poster child through waffle waffle house. I love. I love anytime. I'm in the south I go to awful house. But I would doesn't have anyone would I could see like a waffle house. Poster. You got your whole you're like holding two plates of food. You're holding. You're holding. The and one you're holding up a fucking shit tunnel waffles, we know any waffle house marketing people, I would be more than happy to randomly have my picture presenting waffle house of meals on just like random places in the south. That's nothing would make me happier lead it over the counter. Now, they got all the while cooking goes year lead it over that counter, just presenting two plates of food to everybody. Fun. Fact, I'm on the wall at a waffle house in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Yeah. How do you? How do you get on a wall day? Just I I was there with the fuck did you do to get on that wall? Got to be something. I was there. And they're like, we're putting a bunch of pictures on the wall, and they took a photo. And there's only like twenty four thousand come on polaroid is right day. Super hot wings, or I was like my fifth day of college. And they just took a photo of me. And my two friends you weren't there. Like thirty seven nights in a row. They're like that's a record fifty five pancakes or something. No. We got we got four people there Buddha. Ben being one of them. I'm not sure I'm not sure many people on this podcast. No buddha. Ben is and that may be a good thing. Because Ben in a Ma you go down a rabbit hole. Look him up. You'll have a good time. Yeah. But Buddha, Ben is hilarious. He's one of my favorite people on this earth. But he ordered so much food. We all ordered so much food that I mean, we must have had seven or eight meals in front of us came up to twenty nine dollars. Waffles Waddell house costs two dollars. Nothing was crazy nothing. I think our our meal was like twenty nine we left like the wages. I get thirty dollars. You're like, this is not we have like, we we we have a stipend thing. We we had sixty dollars to spend just gave her the rest. Here's like, please take about these. Yeah. No wild. Wow. Says dullish anybody who has my parents love Lofthouse lava, I experienced, and I it was great. We wouldn't even do it necessarily drunkenly. Like, yes, we would. But with my parents and stuff they'll legit wig up on like a Saturday night. It'd be Kate. What got a waffle house? Don't fuck. Yeah. I to go off while if you don't love waffle house, you just haven't been on correct? You know, I think that's proper that's proper take. And then we've got former MLB Eric Byrnes played four hundred twenty golf holes in twenty four hours. You just hear that he played how great is still trying to process it. How many four hundred twenty like the weed thing? Four twenty plays it holes in twenty four hours. I believe it. I regret saying how to do that former major league baseball player turned endurance athletes that a new speed golf world record earlier this week playing four and twenty holes in a twenty four hour span at the ocean course at Half Moon bay golf links in California's twenty three rounds twenty three point three rounds of go. Former major league baseball player turned endurance race athlete. That's something. Fuxin endurance race f how do you play twenty three rounds of golf? Twenty thirty rounds of golf in one day. He's forty three played from seven a m right through seven AM the next day using glow in the dark ball night. Shatter the old twenty four hour record of four hundred one holes set in nineteen seventy one the blisters like coming out of his armpits. Like what what is? Hey like arms Andy Bernard. Yes, he looks like he just finished a bike race triathlon on the left there. See what an asshole. Yep. I would agree with that. Fuck him. Fuck him. Fuck. Eric Byrnes, whatever happened to thirty six. He's played thirty six holes four hundred good day. Any anybody who take something to this much of an extreme there Nestle, what's the point of this? Yeah. Like, you gotta what he got a plaque. Is that what you just showed me or send the fuck in these in the book a world record grain, you know, some guy DM media that he's he's in the Guinness Book world of records for skipping rock. Unbelievable skips. And tell me I should probably go into it. What would you guess twenty? I was gonna say my number was thirty seven thirty seven skips. What are they slow motion? Re they gotta be filming it, right? Slow motion. How are you gonna count? All those skips a lot. The late ones are skips like facet. Probably got a slow it down, and and count those different Agean that count knows out fifty one get out of town. I'm seeing eighty eight I'm seeing eighty eighty eight eighty eight. Oh, oh, yeah. We're actually I guess shout out to Kurt Steiner shut out Kurt, Steiner's. This this fucking guy. Check your DM's. I gotta go back. It was it. Yeah. I mean, he he just hits you up said. Hey, Frank, what's up? I want to have the Guinness world record book holder for skips. Now. Oh, it was like it was a very weird fucking. It was like, hey, this is a great pizza place for you guys to check out one of these days. Also, if you ever wanted to know, I am the world Guinness Book world record. I can't either. Why aren't we close out the Guinness Book of world records headed? You you gotta that Guinness Book of world record holder. That can't it's it's fumbling down a fucking ear like a gut in some get us. You think I don't know? I don't know. Guinness world record holder Guinness Book of world records, whose Guinness like the beer is that a town. I company Guinness as go round track and world records. It's critical books of them up. 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I don't like it to be Frank fry was horrible the real story yet real story. Number one. Is that my mic on a new spot today for some reason, actually, I know the reason I'm not sitting in my usual chair while we recording four play the podcast sponsored by supreme golf awesome company. Very good company say company what a slick at unbelievable unless sitting in my usual seat because lurch comes in here. And he's the first thing he says, he goes, you never going to believe it, and I'm like, okay here, we go. So the guy have you believe it, though, he was I have poison Ivy on my balls. I went down and grabbed alerts from the lobby what? And we exchanged our normal pleasantries. We got on the elevator. And I was like, hey, what's going on? And he's like, I poison Ivy on my nuts and just reveal that information to people. Well, I'll tell you what when you have it. And if you anyone out there ever has it's the only thing you can think about. Because it is it just takes away all feeling you just you have to constantly, and you're just trying to get comfortable in any capacity that you can gotta I'm uncomfortable. We're using some unbelievably discussing where it's I was eating Taco Bell. Which I also I had Taco Bell. Thank you in since. I think it was the past four days. Three days talk about twice in the delicious. I actually made a comment to the whole office said is this an acceptable order to have taco Bill twice in the same. You know, like a day spa day span like feels a little gross. It's a little gross. Free 'cause you fucking want. That's exactly what I said. Oh, yeah. Who's watching me when my mom's not like you shouldn't be in that STAN over my shoulder, though. If you started to do three four you'd be like, I feel I could do it again tomorrow. Stopped me as well as eating this fucking thing. This guy's talking about losing. Well, so I got to do that. While somebody's especially when you eat nachos to premium so Frankie's judge conversation. I was having a friendly conversation with Trent Trent so kindly got me from outside. Thank you. Again. Trump guy. I come walking up the stairs. I'm just telling him about my situation. So I did some yard work. My my brothers. We again, we had a great time. Sit outside pulled some vine stones from what ships around little mulch buildings flowerbeds. Great time. Okay. However, outdoorsy I must have, you know, either fixed myself for taking a piss, and when I did I got some poison Ivy all my leg, and then on my my balls and to be exact to my left testicle. It really started to show up last night. But now walking around all day. It really came out last. Well, so it doesn't show. It's not like instantaneous. Yeah. Have you ever had poison Ivy? I appreciate it. Yeah. Well done. So anyways, I have this. I've been walking and moving around today, and it's been incredibly painful, incredibly awful. So I left work a little early had to go home bought some tech new extreme great product not to free ads. But it's like the only thing to get loft. It on myself tile got comfortable came up. Okay. You don't want to hear scrolls. Yeah. Everybody's got uncomfortable. I saw these these are this is initiatives affecting all of us. So now it is especially while you're trying to talk that was. Oh that was while. I was trying to talk about it had to come up because that's my mindset. That's all I'm thinking about its talkable. No, you're using balls to burn the chair that he's in. I mean, he's not everybody would be fun. I'm comfortable now. Thank you for. Sit from the gallery. Four play up arsenal sports dot com. At is where you submit. It's amazing. How many people actually ask us where and how to submit from the Oury? That's how you do. It Email for play at Barschel's force dot com. Do you think that's their bit since we do the tiger? But all the time. No. I think it's the same crew that that just genuinely couldn't figure out the name of tiger book. I think that they honestly what's the name of that guy? You know? I just think that those exact same people. They couldn't I I actually want to go back to the time where I was answering people telling them the name of it. 'cause I I honestly like I don't think I took advantage of it as much of the dentist of responded said the name of the book, it's Tiger Woods. Then that like send me like, oh, what's that book about Tiger Woods? I just respond. Tiger woods. And then they wouldn't be a they just thanks, man. Yeah. I see it. Just order. What do you think they were trying that wasn't work really, what type and Tiger Woods book? And that is what it is book about really good golfer golfer. Red-shirted golfer book don't see around Augusta. Anybody know who he is you guys know the name somebody give me a sign. I just need to see the book I've been looking for it all day line. Can't find it. Anyway, I know the name. So I think it's the same crew. Honestly, the same people that can't figure it out go through third grade. If you can't get that. So it's four player partial sports dot com to to really give you the answer there. Let's start. We had a bunch of go through love from the gallery. Great stuff. You know for the people. You're welcome. And we got Nate Nate says. Could point. Actually, he said, basically the masters has put the final round of every everyone like the last fifty masters on on YouTube. You can just go on you can watch it. I do it all time. I talk about when I do. It's great a great way to go to sleep at night. It's a great way to kill some time. If you got a little afternoon, you can just kind of watch anything you go all the way back to like the seventies and your fucking watching like, Jack Nicklaus. When majors your y it's a may watching Gary Player when majors and you could only go I'll go all the way back to the last couple of years. I talked about on right up the masters how I just watched every minute of Jordan speaks collapse down to just talking about the commentators. How they just didn't say anything, and they're just like we're gonna go to sixteen. He was like why the hell does the PGA tour? Just put everyone a tiger one. Tiger Woods is eighty one wins the final round on YouTube. Quick answer is that they're dumb. That's it. My answer is going to be that they genuinely just haven't thought about it. Hey, friends. This is Ricky Riggs notes here. Little Rigsby note PSA for all you out there. If you go to PGA tors YouTube page, they put up like nearly an hour long videos of like all of Tiger Woods is Bj tour wins. I think it's called chasing eighty two. But yeah, kudos the PG because they just they actually just put them all on you too. And they're awesome. So go check them out. Like, I think there's companies like this that are like, we're they haven't even thought about putting stuff on YouTube like that like I feel like barstools prints recently sort of came to that conclusion that YouTube is a big platform. There's a lot of people on YouTube, and there's a lot of people are going to watch these videos like the PJ just the no one has in a meeting known has raised their hand and been like, hey, we should put extra necks on YouTube because people are gonna watch it. I really think that's the main cause behind why it's not on there. I should hire you as a consultant. Well, I think. Hire anybody like under the age of thirty. That would just be like, here's the things we should do to optimize the archives of that. We have like that's really all take hate is. When they just put short highlight clips on YouTube who the fuck goes to like, I don't really go to YouTube. If I'm if I'm like taking the time to go to YouTube. I want to watch something right or watch something that's like worthwhile. Something that's got some substance to in some time possess a little store, you know, kind of a beginning middle and end hell you fucking highlights. It's like highlights for like Twitter highlights or for your website where you kind of click through see a couple of quick highlights, and you're gonna where it's like a high school kids highlights because he didn't know where else uploaded. He he's never had to like upload along video before. So he made a YouTube video with his g mail account. And he just put it up there. Like like Trent Ryan highlights. My football highlights are on YouTube. If people. Tren Ryan fifty five to number forty broS. Outrageous, honestly, this is no bit. And this is no bullshitting trench highlights are actually incredible. That's the most watch. You were saying I was really know. Really good really one handed interception. Yeah. Come on. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Unbelievable. One hand beasts interception was not on your recommendation game. Sealer? Yeah. I got some feedback on battle the Kruger. One guy said loved do you? Remember those times or is it like vividly. Yeah. Yeah. It's I know, but like some of the best places, but like you remember what it felt like I got kicked out for that one fucking game. I remember those times vividly because they are remember we have the helmet on. Yeah. Before I got the job. Those are the best moments in my life. Sure. I was number forty because of Michael Stott, I knew full or fullback as a fullback and a linebacker. Okay. Mostly linebacker special package on on offense for fullback. Okay. But yeah, check out. My I don't know how we got. You check out my. Video. I wonder how many Trent Ryan's they're on YouTube very few. I would imagine being so, yeah, I don't know if you type in Trent Ryan, forty football highlights. It's gonna pop. Yeah. I think not to my room. But I think I'm the most famous Trent Ryan. Wow. Oh, you would have heard about it. Right. Yeah. I would know. Yeah. I would agree. There's a Frank. There's a Frankie Borelli that was in the sopranos San really, right? Yeah. After every sopranos assist starring Frankie Borelli. That's amazing. What's the guy looked like Sharon scheme career for the listener? Does he run a restaurant on Long Island? Dammit post the search for the Tiger Woods book were really stretching. Everybody's Google search Cape. Yeah. Lot of searching that goes on this very show. That's amazing. What kind of character is he Frankie really I saw a picture James Gandolfini veto spot a four junior that name sounds familiar. That's Frankie, Bradley place. That sounds familiar honestly when you hit images me and Francis come up you had the a blogger from barstool sports dot com. Okay. Anyways, YouTube is important. And I think that the PJ should this guy's right? He should tiger should be on there every class around should be what they need to just put on right are more just full routes just put more full rounds on YouTube. I don't care who you are even are good close personal friend, the US. You know, they got a lot of these. They've done a couple of these US open epochs, right? They've done like two thousand eight I think they've done like the last three or four US Open's where they've done speeds at chambers bay can do deejays at Oakmont where the ad these kind of like our long epochs, they do of them. Don't even have to go that far you have to do any production any fancy stuff. Cut out the commercials, which the masters did in just put the fucking five hour broadcast from the final round. On youtube. So I can sit down and just watch it on full a lot of it too. In those other highlight things or when they do the one hour epochs you lose scope of like if you were to rewatch this last masters, you totally forget to like holy shit. Patrick Kelly's in the lead. And then you'd be home. And then he just go lapsed. Well, you get to watch that unfold. Yep. Whereas when you just go through it you forget that person's even in the fucking tournament. Isn't it insane? That this also like adds to the thing that I said after tiger one where it's like we're living in a legendary moment right now that we're like complaining that like his legendary moments aren't on YouTube yet. But like any other legend like you wanna watch like you were saying you can just go back and watch like Jack and like Arnold Palmer. And all these guys Gary Player, you can just watch them at 'cause obviously those are up because they happened like thirty forty fifty years ago, like Tiger Woods is happening right now. And we're like scrambling to make sure like like in twenty years like there's going to be a Tiger Woods like archive like, you wouldn't believe you can only really watch it. Like, you can only really watch those guys that you mentioned like in the final round of the masters, right? Right. Whereas like, and that's the same thing with you can. Oh, really watch like like his full final rounds in like good picture and exactly how they unfolded with Nansen the in the nounce and all of that. And like soak it in like it was in real time. From the masters is the only fucking people that have figured out. Nobody else figured it out. No, it's a blind spot for for a lot of companies, especially the PGA who were just like, I don't even like I said, I don't think they realized that this should be on YouTube, and when they figure it out hopefully one day soon that happened like I want to walk that whole fight around. They always show when tiger hold out for eagle on fifteen at Pebble Beach in up upcoming for like nine shots back to win at Pebble Beach in like two thousand a year the actual tournament out the US open that year. Like, I wanna watch that whole find around don't even know who the fuck was in the mix there. I just know they always show that one shot rehauls out, and then gives a fist pump of middle. Fairway was fucking red shirt on. Yeah. That's like I wanna watch that final round like what's going on at Pebble Beach or the back nine. And instead, I just know the tiger clip. That's all I know. I want the full context entire clips out there. Hopefully, this gets maybe this gets the wheels in motion. Fears are listening. Larry on YouTube archive. We want the whole thing history guy, sports guy golf guy when all that shit on YouTube. Speaking of kind of tiger highlights and stuff. One of the favorites is coming up the best paid. We have Bethpage talked about a little bit earlier in the show. But that t- shoddy hits on fifteen without three would. And that twirl that he does afterwards. Mazing own all foster with the rest. Oh my God. It's unbelievable Damian Lillard from from half court. Yes, what a poll topical reference for that. From a guy who hates basketball. That was unbelievable shot though, any ever I saw Bill Simmons tweet out like wouldn't amazing time to be alive game of thrones NBA playoffs. Billions like didn't reference. NHL? Like there was a best NHL game. That was an outrageous tweet. Yeah. He's a he's a Boston guy to labeled every single thing that was happening in the world except for any Joe, I think he did that on purpose to Dave type troll. I think I don't know. I don't know what it was. But it was it was bad. His team just he's a Bruins fan. His team had just wanna game seven and he's like Melissa all cool that are going on right now. And he left off. Really? Like any was going super viral? Oh, yeah. They'll over the place viral over our faces the shocks down by the Wallaby game. What a game what a game unbelievable game can't get into hockey talk. And we're not gonna start getting a little bit of outrageous game that calls such bullshit. But that was one of the worst calls I've ever seen him out, double minor. Most can't give a five minute major. They also can't give up four four goals kills it matter. I know if they don't if they don't call that penalty they win that. Do you think it's a two minute minor? Yes. Yes. Okay. That's all we're not talking about hockey or you can talk about it. But. Give it for two minutes. Two minutes. He just pushed him, basically, so aggressive push dresser push with across Jack. Yeah. But like people cross great. I'm I'm on your side. One of the you dig is than you go with across like doesn't Sal at your side you keep throwing in that. It's like worse than it. We're not talking about hockey. We're not talking about whether you are at the range playing around with the guys or on the PGA tour, which if you're listening to podcasts, probably not don't be unprepared for messy situations on the course pack some dude wives and dude shower wipes dude wipes are flushable fragrance free. 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That's not the veered is slightly better than than what's going on under that underneath is the same. Listen had actually the most complete is your mustache that looks good. Everything goes straight stash, your your father has a magnificent most magnificent. If I walked into my house and my dad didn't have a moustache. I don't know. I don't I don't know. What I would do. We'd be like what happened the restaurant him in my life. I've never seen him without a muscle. And where did you find this, man? I don't know. What that I I don't know what my dad's skin looks like underneath his nose push him to shave it. Just to gesture to you that you should shave your. I don't want this silent protest. So he knows you can do it. Because that's it is I'm talking to people at work like we're meeting like like we met Dr Filippini and he looked at my face. And he's like what the fuck is going wrong. Hey self-help book. This guy can like determine if you have mental illnesses and stuff. And I think he looked right into my soul is that you have something going on right now. But that's honest. You do you're borderline on stable with me show. If we continue to show him the islanders like you're dealing with a sociopath, and he should not be in this office ever. Does that make you feel like, okay? I love this guy deals with people that are going through some of the darkest worship in the world. I never heard of go like, well, the FOX going on there. He sees you and goes what the fuck is. I just saw him. He didn't say anything. He just looked like, you know, when you just like he shook my hand. And there's look straight on my cheeks. Oh, yeah. Strata might you. You wouldn't even go to the bar Ming a drink. You say you can't go public right now. I just can't explain it to everyone. Hey, listen. I know what's going on my face. I look disgusting. But the team that I root for is winning games in their league. That's like that's my that's in there. Like like, my favorite sport team is winning game somewhere on like not by me. They're just winning games on their own. And I have to grow up. My facial hair. They're like, oh, you work for the team you. No, no, no. No, no. I just do it. Because like I watch it in my room because it's good luck. I watch I watch it in my room. Ordering out people watch me on the internet watch the games, and I had this little mustache here. But yet, drew my my fucking facial hair isn't great, I want it to be good. How'd you feel if it lasts when you were rockstar rockstar last night? I played you think. So I think so I had like I had been on. I mean, come on. Lurch has a phone right in Frankie face. One of the worst pictures I've ever seen like of him or just a bad a bad FU Manchu or some. I'm sorry. What is going on? The Russian the Russian like flag with like the stickle thing. The so it's like how it's a upside down. Oh, wow. Really see like right here. Yeah. Upside down question, Mark. Yup. It does it goes around. And then it comes back at the. That's not a good sign when they describe your facial hair. Like that. No, let's go to CJ here. CJ says do you think the skill gap between the average golfer and a professional golfer is the largest steel gap in sports, if not what sport would you consider it to be. I'm gonna say, no. Okay. The reason why I say that is because physical attributes don't come into play where one on one like you're still just playing the course. But if I play LeBron James, you're right. I don't know if I'd ever be able to score a point where at maybe one whole I'd be able to like go par par par on like a par three or something. Like that. So I would say no because you're not you're playing against nature. Of course, something consistent rather than a the question was do you think the skill gap it, so it's just about like, the actual skill gap. Like, how different are their skills versus your skills? You know, like, yeah. You could both go out there and shoot a three, you know. That's when your skill. So you know, I think like I go to make a free throw right now. But like, I couldn't just go make a, you know, or the average person couldn't just go make I guess I kind of what you're going through. So you're just taking a skill in a silo not verse. Someone like me being able to hit a free throw him being able to hit a three point shot dribbles that type of thing got it. Yeah. I mean, the question is just take the skill gap. Is the biggest I think. Yeah. The average the average golfer the average player trying to think what other sports are just like not even fucking close. Maybe like skiing terrible skiers people that just ski on. Fuck. It's thank ability just blacked out in your head. What sports is Asia's morons work their way down like a course or a game or something and skiing hockey has to be up. There is a whole nother sport hockey's up there yet. But I mean, like a division two or like a low level college game at Simon the same. Yeah. But scheme makes more sense because like all right? But we're talking about major sports though. Right. But there's no more like average player that's like an average hockey player. Now, I feel like you know in comparison at the same age group like golfers. You can still have a thirty year old average golfer to a thirty year old hot show up people play men's hockey true. Yes. Many. Yeah. All right. Like there is an average. There is talking. I mean, it's a hard question. But I I don't know man, you see these guys that can go out there like if you just play golf your whole life. And like you grow up doing it like you can at least you can hit a drive, and you can drill a drive down the right side three thirty in like, there's like the scratch golfers out there, and there's an average golfers can like you're saying you can make it three at their average handicap is I if I had to guess, well, don't they say like a ridiculous number like, don't pray. Don't they say ninety eight percent of or like ninety percent golfers. Don't break a hundred something like that in the world. Yeah. It's over. Now. It's like over Dickey's number. I believe that too. Because you have Mike older, man. They just pick up if you play the ball in the hole. Yes. USDA rules hundred percent. I think it's like ninety six percent of the golfers Milwaukee like ninety the USGA's says that the average golfer and it system carries about fifteen point zero handicap translates into an average score of around ninety or depending on the golf course, you know, maybe even a little higher. All right. So yeah, that's pretty fucking you know, like that being the average golfer still, but how do you compare so hard and also skill level in the NBA has to be skill level. Like you have to be able to drive to the basket like against LeBron James skills. Yeah. It's not just like hitting free throw though. I know I know looking like I hear you you have to be able to be six eight to like. Yeah. I think that's a skill guy. I think by being physically bigger than everyone else like that. I just can't do it. I physically cannot make the NBA because of my size and how was born. Nate robinson. Did it? Tough question. I think it's just a hard question. You're comparing different sports. I mean, it's a I would say no because the physical attributes physical. Yeah. Brought fair. Like, there's some fats owes out there who can be pretty fucking good, Jeff. Fair. And I dunno. Sorry. Patrick read. And I don't know. Correct. You know, sorry Duffner put up a fucking selfie of himself. Awesome. From the throat. He looked really fat again. Oh, my. At the house on. Yeah. Bro. Dolf ner looked. He's like walking in or walking through like a club or like frog on dude. He looks. He just takes. Ankle he needs to have that camera like a foot above his head. But he's got it just living like six inches below the jaw line, and he looks horrible my knowledge, Creighton Amir. But like, oh, no, he might look. Great amir. But that's when he's played his best golf when he is. So unbelievably fat. Lim down. He went vineyard vines is that what he was wearing wearing a he's like underneath the lights. He's got a drawstring backpack on one of those like under things that used to wear in highschool a drawstring backpack, and he has a visor on a corona extra visor on. And he's walking around with this chin. He's got an eleven chin is unbelievably band recall that eleven since works bad. Oh my goodness. Duffner guys been through it looks. It gets a thousand bees. Looks like Java the hut. And how could you hold the fucking camera that low and as soon as it flips around, you gotta go. Nope. Everybody's taking a bad like picture. You're like, ooh. Probably want to just do something else. We're not the most Fano people in this room. But we don't have to hit send every time. Nope. Send is not mandatory after you take shot or a video of the option. There is your friend your little to exercise the option put up the best one that is not the best money because he did like I feel like Phil just like changed the game. When with that masters video because now everyone starting to copy him in their own way. I know I don't know if it's like they're going after they want to do it themselves. But like this whole video is about like, there's no bombs here at the heritage. It's all about fairway finding and attacking greens. Like, you just gotta rigs coach just did it. Yeah. Just did the Philly. Yeah. He did the Phil. You know, it was okay. It was crazy that was he was trying to do fill like word for word like Duffner just wanted to tell like historian going RBC, just like filled it. So I said guys are gonna start doing that. Which is a great. Thing. Yeah. Because fills was so candid. Yes, right. It was just like Philby and Phil driving down magnolia lane. Just shooting the shit. I'm gonna hit bombs that is more. What social media should be. There've been a lot of people calling out like when they do mass tweets between every pro golfer tweets out like the same thing at the same time, that's copy-pasted. And that's like somebody else's interpretation of the best way to utilize social media such dog shit. We want candid stuff, right? I bet. A lot of those guys are looking at the Phil thing. And how big that story became a be like, I can just be me. I don't have to be like this great for everybody that worked here that like the used to work at you did like programming and they make us send out like member. It was like the same tweet every minutes. And we're like there's no way that this is a little wild time. That was that was it. Carey Email being like, oh, I have to I have to copy and paste this thing and send it at eight. Oh to go to the main point of the is it Frankie eight oh. To a person's fire. The main point like, that's me. I'm eight oh to the irony of it was the main point was like, let's start organic conversation. We're doing the opposite. The tweet us at eight. Oh, two Frank. You make sure you tweet parentheses organically about this. I mean, I how can and now you see how how successful like roughing rowdy ISR varieties wildly successful because the fights. And the story lines are so good that we talk about them as employees or like body slam like everyone's tweeting about that. Like go by referee right now. Just like when we were watching the fucking sharks game last night. Yes. Like this game is outrageous go turn on like, I didn't need. Someone emailed me that and tell me to say say it, oh to I didn't need someone to tell me like that are still classic by bar by barstool sports, and truly like I didn't need to be told to fucking like that thing's awesome. Like, I'm just going to do it. That got a lot of organic play, by the way, I'm plugging day. Now, you're plugging stuff. Don't be afraid to mention truly hard seltzer. You know? I know you saw truly slide that Hartselle I'll be honest with you. I didn't know exactly what the terminology was after truly. So I didn't want to say the wrong wanna mess it up because I knew that I knew was truly right plugs. I appreciate that. Really? I knew truly let me tell you this and truly I mean this Bank Kelly DEP. Can I get one trick someone Kelly at the shed EMMY at my concert last love. Oh, that's nice coming off the stage. Kallis I was like boom in the hole. I in my head. I thought the whole crowd went boom. But they didn't know you'll take it take you keep that memory that t pain entry. It was so funny. We had no idea like keeping was even coming on. And we were supposed to play all I do is win because that's like celebration song. That's all I do is win win win. No matter what. And they go. You see you? Okay. And all of a sudden, I hey, they go in our ear, and they'll like you guys can't play the final song tonight. I'm more like why? And they're like t pain's just gonna come on. And sing it. We're like, okay. Oh, make sense mad, and we were just like. We just like we're gonna take this one. Mr. T, we're gonna take this Mr. pain, and we're just gonna sing the you can the player with them. Mr. pain, Mr. pal. We did ask the play with him. You said he politely politely. He's very nice for me. He's security guard said no fucking. No. I get it. He lets. Let's. It was done in a manner. Yeah. What's the selling? He says I'm living like in Wisconsin. He like, he uses the word, Wisconsin, and changes it to Wisconsin. So they can run Wisconsin in Wisconsin. So anyway, he's walking around with this Wisconsin jacket and says Wisconsin, it's unbelievable. How many sang the song he turned around? And it said Wisconsin the whole place fucking win. No, oh, I thought I saw someone pass out what a show canes and the whole thing. Stepping on the Jordan Spaeth Buchan bay whole. Places fell down like he walked out of the jersey. It said staff in the whole crowd just fell when Spain. Wisconsin to even look how cool Ronan is. Yeah. Like turnaround. He hit me in the chest. He's like his book Jacquet says was scancen on it. And I was like holy shit. Dude, it does. And then like he told me that before you hit the note. And then he said Wisconson, we all went nuts. What a star to find that that that line before this show. And that's what stars do. Oh, that's awesome. Frankie this next one. Let's next one's interesting. I never heard anything like this before. But I gotta read this. This is from Dan, he says after watching the silver legs video boys. I'm one hundred percent convinced that Frankie butter knives is a hoax hall. How many times did it? Take for Frankie to chip the ball that bad his practicing almost flawless. Oh me. I do not know how else to put it. But simply all parentheses are. I'm sorry all caps. There is no way in fuck that Frankie is that bad with a wet. Now, we're not at all caps. I've watched a video multiple ties. My conclusion is that. This is sports. Best kept secret. Only question is should I keep this to myself or not this is a very simple answer to this is incredibly mean? And if the fact that he thinks it's this fake. Combing because it's so real that he thinks it's so bad and fabricated that it can't possibly be. Well, the Rahm is. Because you're swing like it looks like it should work so everyb-, it just doesn't make sense when I hit the so many things. No. It's the way you were talking about it two or three podcasts. Go to you have no idea of how even to approach, and there's so many things wrong with it. There's not displaying. It's the speed. It's fucking everything. You just no ability to hit it. But this comet sums it all up because in theory. It looks good like it should work. But it's all real. I mean, it's the worst lurch sought right right there. There's own is with no cameras rolling. Like, I really wanted to hit a good wedge shot. I was trying my hardest to do it. There's no content being made. We're just out there with the boys like trying to fucking play golf, and I hit these things sideways. It's not for content. I wish it was. I wish I was able to just fuck in turn it on like that. And first of all how can you like miss hit a shot that perfectly like in that fucking so lakes asking how many like if I tried? To do that a million times. There's no way I'm ever taking that fucking. You think I know how to Duff a ball where hits the grass the grass went further than the ball way for the Basel possible club went further. Yeah. That clip to also we always I always make sure Jake keeps them in there. All the practice swings and all the pre shot stuff. So that it's very evident than it's just a full take. Oh foot one full. So it makes it completely honest because the guy so I was group in front of you. And then the group in front of us was walking up the next fair. West green looked over and scream Frankie butter Knox. From of cross the fucking golf course. And obviously like like percentage wise like I'm gonna hit some good shots when I played an eighteen round small percentage percentage like the other day, I played at that place cherry valley country club. And I hit the best wedge shot that I've hit in five years. I had a nice flop. It was flopped. There was on a T basically sitting right there right under it. And I just know I almost jarred it for fucking birdie. It's like so nice. Then my next hole. I fucking trumped on like this is how it is. It's just it's the most inconvenient. You don't have. I don't have a wedgie game. Sounds. You have a little bit of one comes tried a couple times a year. So because I do have a golf swing. I'm I'm able to put it together. Sometimes I can get it on the green. But if the pressures put on me, and you put a fucking camera behind me. And I know I have to hit it. Now. I'm thinking about what am I doing has a look the arm speed the fucking risky. It's yeah. Actually, love your practice. Weddings, because they're like a hundred miles an hour for both five trying to hit a seventy yard. Like ten feet away from the Dan is like his his practising for perfect key, iky washing. It's like those were not perfect. Those were outraged trying to hit a seventy art web shot. It's curious over like a lake like trying to tuck one in the form looks fine though. Like, it doesn't look that bad until he goes up and hits it to me. The most amazing part of all that the no one talks about is the fact that you then got up and down from the sales town. I mean, you then hit a little pitch to like five feet in area. The putt punch agrees. That was crazy. Remember? Yeah. I mean, you hear the single worst chip in real life that I've ever seen him on tyrod. And then you step right up to the next one. And just chipped it to five feet. Unbelievable. I was just an unbelievable through Washington real time. The capital just this capitalist. Scored zip come on. I want to go to goals in the man, you open this web browser and I looked over and now a night's zero zero oh we crush on. That is not a hockey pal. We don't talk about we're not gonna talk about it at all worst timing to touch on the we went ham on Vegas last night. We bet the house on them and loss of that fashion. Worse. Besides watching that hockey, you're almost jumped out my window. I was losing my mind watching hockey disdain for that referee is off the name what an emotional name on I refuse to look it up because I don't I don't want to make a personal records. I'm not. And I know I'm not that's why I'm not going to look it up. I also. And again, we're just not going to talk about it. No. But we took those losses and win even more ham on Washington tonight. Just one and a half or just money line straight money while that the bacon to win the bottom and have to do with that fucking gremlin Nate. Oh, man. It's true thing. God, that's gotta be. I love it. I'm gonna it might give us. I may not be on this podcast next week you'd be in jail. Yeah. Good drought into tied up in his base drive me up a wall. Like, you wouldn't believe he gets under my cease, very good at it. I went to cap ski this year. And I almost struck him a regular I would say you're the same side just on the other side. Now, you're not as truly true. You're just a lunatic. Britain Riggs Riggs counterpoise today. I tried to make the point that I'm not as negative as Nate which I am negative. Like, I do have my background is a Rangers lowest point when they played the LA kings is your background and computer still the same. You'll. Yeah. It always has been Lundquist on it. So it's not really negative. It's more. It's a more of a spin on positively reminds you on how how close can you get to your life goal and never did take it for granted. Because that is Henrik Lundqvist life. So. Yeah. So I I made the point like when when Nate got slapped last year at the Stanley Cup finals got slapped my grown, man. His first thought was to turn around and like troll the people behind him when his team won the Stanley Cup. Like that's not going to be my first reaction. It's more going to be like, I'm like there's going to be I'm going to be using right? Like, so I can go back your tests problem. I'm going to be oozing things. I'm not going to be turning around and worrying about the fuck in Vegas. You know what I mean? Like, he did they got like the Vegas Golden Knights fan behind me who. It's been a fan for you. I don't know why he got struck by Vegas. We'll fan. It's insanity. But yeah, it's I don't know. I don't know how I'm going to do with him. We we see a tweet from Dave port. And I saying should be an interesting week with barstool Nate and PFC comment. Verse Frankie Borelli, I mean, it's going to be something. It's going to be something you may slap Nate by the end of the week. He just gets under your skin like we we sat in seats that were given to us by the by the islanders. I was like, hey Nate like it's it's game. Like fifty seven. It doesn't really mean that much like let's just enjoy the game. We were late because like things happen with puck and transportation, he was being annoying in that he kept saying we, you know, it's ten minutes late for the train. We can just watch it at a bar. And I was like I don't wanna watch it abortion ask you again. He just kept saying we could just wash a bar. We're going to the game. I'm going to the Nassau Coliseum. So I'm watching this year to got me activated. We're sitting in islanders seats, and like, hey, man. Just don't like bang on the glasses. I row like just don't like do crazy like cap shit. Like, we're sitting in like owners, and I understand it's a lot asking of them. That's all ages, but due because he does this thing where it goes go cabs. I mean like he wails over round like the Calor not winner. He bangs on the glass. No, no, that's fine. But what he proceeded to do? It was like he started a go. Cavs go chanting laughed at everyone around him. I can't believe you guys even watch this team like like doing that. And I'm like this going around the people next to us or like high level islander people and the Frankie's like who the fuck is Frankie marina the game. I thought maybe he could just control himself for one night. And you've got to trust the troll on YouTube. That's killer. I mean, I think he's fucking bouncing around fucking trae believes, go wild limbs through view of wild. It's literally like when you put a little kid on one of those balancing. So it's like my little cousin will always put him in the make him lay down and those bouncy castles and everyone jumps. And he goes flying translate limbs. That's how he does it. I always think of his limbs like his wrists. Bend the wrong way. Oh, yeah. You know, feel like they spend like, yes. Like, whatever ways normal has just been the him walk around with a laptop. He walks around like he walks around like this to describe this. So he holds he holds the top of the laptop. He does his fingers are on the screen. He just holds the screen of walks around, his keyboard, just dangling. So anybody asked him. Why we always do he goes? I don't know. It's one of the things I've ever seen in my life. I mean, and you don't care is basically overhand from the top of the laptop this figures on the screen of allow for everyone at home. He he's scraping up the laptop. So there's a screen, and then it makes it makes just an angle where the lab where the keyboard is close your eyes picture grabs. He now grabs with his fingers. You know, the actual the the the palm party your hands up. He puts that on the screen, and then grabs the screen and walks around with the keyboard dangling, and he'll like to have a conversation with you about that. Bagley or skies. That's why I'm just fell. Yeah. Again, we're not going to talk about hockey at all Zirk, but I'm excited. Still nothing gaps. People are going to know when you hear this podcast. You'll know the result. Lurch and myself we've been heavy in the gambling game. Thank the Lord for one. Big dick tiger L Eldrick woods because that caught me out of the whole now massively in the positive which was great will really help if the capital's win tonight. So keep it up go cap gallon traps. We'll be back on. And he picks for the circus. Johnson Kevin Kizer and Scott Brown. Now, Zac Epson did you notice that Johnson's not in that tournament? Yup. We did a whole set before you got here about fucking borings act Johnson. I tried to think of the exact opposite player who like we were saying like we just watched a masters, and like nothing will get jacked up now unless there's a major 'cause like, I that's all I need a high. Yes. Because of what tiger. Absolutely. It's outrageous imagined just watching Zach Johnson at the the look at desert like that is the polar opposite of watching. Tiger Woods win the masters Johnson competing in Zurich. The look on space right now is outrageous. I mean, it's ricocheting shots at my fellow Sierra opinion. It's not any any picking the other name. I'm an island. He's an I you guys know that I wish we could just pick a different name boring mooring pick it every name. I won't. Fucked up snooze fest. Well, let's go caps. Copes go. Let me bring on. Win the Stanley Cup. You've got to go through the best. You've got to go through the through the defending champions bringing trots trots verse fucking his old team. I'm all for it. And there's a very good chance that you guys are listening to this. And I'm playing the folk and Carolina Hurricanes to lead to go lead in the first period the break from dabbling for just two goal lead in the first is not a fucking sentence. No it so everyone that's listening. This is going to know the result of this game while we're here to talk about. So we're not going to do it out. We'll be back on Tuesday next week hit it hot at art. Hit hard. Oh.

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The Man who Died at Amen Corner

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The Man who Died at Amen Corner

"Promo- skull fans seeing. Amen Corner in person is right at the top of their bucket list. We were carrying our chair around the par three on that. Amen Corner for Johnny Pruitt. It was the places. Life came to a hard stop in. We're at then began again. I was talking to one of my white friend and he said that started mumbling my word. I started tumbling and I stopped right my track and the next thing he said. I just felt like a tree. Falling backward jumped on me and just started doing CPR anything. You're going to have to get medical attention here. I'm dillon to chair. And this is the drops Johnny. Pruitt grew up in hand. A small town in South Carolina relearned to play and love golf from an early age. My gothic started with my dad. Pretty much shaggy balls. And then he ended up. You Know Sawing off one of his clubs and willing to go down. I believe I was around six years old and then I started hitting the ball back at him and then when I started hitting them over his head he decided that there might be something he might have to do with me. That just shacking balls like plenty kids from the southeast. He grew up watching and dreaming about the Masters. His Idol Jack Nicklaus but by the time he reached his late twenties. There is another young upstart beginning to catch his eye. So Johnny is incredibly excited when a couple of his friends and bite he and his wife to come to the twenty eighteen masters. Tiger's playing well going in there all juiced up and so. They pulled into Augusta the night before they go out and have a stake longhorns. Thank the night before I bought some fireballs outfielder in thirty forty that night. They've a great time big Thursday night out on the town. They wake up the next morning raring to go. And that is really where story begins. Okay so take me through. Then what What is it gusty national like for someone who's never been there? What is the feel of the place? What does it look like? It is heaven on earth. A place where legends are made where dreams have been realized where the royalty of the game at driven down Magnolia Lane to find their Golf Kingdom. So Johnny and his crew make it through the gates and one strange thing about going to a tournament at Augusta is that you can leave your chair somewhere and you can just come back to it later. It's a placeholder. So that's their plan head down to Amen Corner leave some chairs and wander the course. We were carrying our chairs the around the par three on. Amen Corner we hadn't got to our destination yet where we're going to put the chairs. I was talking to one of my wife's friends. The ones that invited us to go with them to the masters and I was. I was having a conversation with him. And he said that. I started mumbling my words I started stumbling and I start writing my track and the next thing he said. I just felt like a tree falling backward. Johnny pruitt is going into major cardiac arrest but as luck would have it. There happens to be a doctor standing right next to him jumped on me and just started doing CPR. And he says you're going to have to get some medical attention here. They were just GonNa put me on the back of the car and take me to. I guess their emergency team. Well the doctor that was only me says you just can't leave him like that on the back of the part. I'M GONNA have to get on this car with him do CPR. You know trying to try and just keeping where we get the lungs and the blood moving and use the Ambu bag to give him some oxygen in one of Y'alls going to have to drive. By the time I went down and got the tent. They said it was probably twenty. Twenty five minutes had elapsed. So you had not. You did not have a pulse to be clear. At this point you were effectively not alive. I was turning blue at the medical tent. They restart Johnny's heart with an e. Then they rush him off to a hospital. His family has no idea where he is. There's no phones at Augusta. Remember but at the hospital. The X rays chest to try to figure out what's going on. They said what happened was the heart. Electrically stopped from irregular heartbeat. I'm fifty three years of age. That time we go to the hospital. Get Two stints that day. They hook me up they do the hypothermia thing where they cool your body down left with no other options. They put him into a coma. Thank all day wanted. Working was my brain my heart Emma lungs. They could care less. What else is you know individual or is that you need while Janis under things. Get even more complex. He's got a bridge set of fake teeth and they get sucked into his lungs. Well it broke loose and when it broke loose. I sucked into my right loan. Oh no so. There's teeth in my right long that they've got to somehow get out with me second in those fate teeth. They were afraid. I was GONNA be susceptible to pneumonia but after seven days. Miraculously Johnny Opens. His is the man that went away from me. Well the Fella that took the bring the tube out. I told him to stop for a second and I looked over at him and I said man that was one fucked up movie at this point. Johnny's memory of the weeks preceding have vanished completely. He doesn't remember walking through the gates at Augusta. National certainly doesn't remember. Patrick read coming up. Eighteen slipping on the green jacket would be his life changing moment. Yes it will. America Catchers Augusta in the weeks that follow Johnny undergoes the first of his many surgeries. He's still in Augusta and after a couple of false starts. He's scheduled for a procedure to put students into place and it was father's Day. I remember the because I was in the hospital for like five days and watching Phil Mickelson run to the ball and hit. Speed is terrible. Whoa WHOA wow that. That's stunning to simple question. What HAP- over thirteen look? I don't mean I don't mean disrespect anybody. I know. It's a two shot penalty. And at that time I go. I know the rules and you can play exactly by the rules but I never had seen anybody do that. In all my years of watching the stents work wonders and weeks later Johnny undergoes the surgery that cuts his resting heart rate which had been sitting north of one. Thirty down into the sixties. He's finally able to go home after several months in Augusta. He's been released from his job. He's worried about his insurance but he starts to ease back into his life. Then it was time for me to kind of get my mouth stuff together. Start Finding out what my mind body was going to be able to do to get me back to work. Johnny continues his comeback. He's doing cardiac rehab working out his heart getting stronger bit by bit and the when did you start feeling like yourself again? You ever find yourself again. Her Janis home now and he's undergoing some serious lifestyle changes now. I've been working out stationary bicycle. That bit right with that. My recliner may not be deferred easiest thing in the living room. But if I see it I'll get on it. I try and do anywhere from ten to twenty minutes a day on. I went from a almost a thirty six way. And I'm thirty two now. I lost probably forty pounds. That's probably two. Oh nine I think I came home at one. I think I got as low as one sixty nine. I'm about one seventy one seventy one right. Now it's twenty nineteen now. Janis made it through months unsteady progress. Some days are good others not so much and then in February. His wife comes to him with an interesting offer. My wife come and ask me Johnny We've got an invitation to go back to the masters you know because it was my wife's first time when we went and I had the cardiac arrest so she never even got to witness the tournament right so and I said well Christine. I don't know I don't know if I'M GONNA be ready to do that. So let let me think about it and and I'll let you know you know. Give me a day or two to think about it. But eventually johnny decides he wants to go back. They have tickets for the Friday. The master's again and they decide to retrace their steps from the year before we spent the night up here. We kind of did the same ritual. We we did. The first time we went along horns again fireball. No no fireball. This time things start to get emotional on Friday morning. Johnny says on his way over to Augusta Pacemaker. In this year which means you get separate entrance into the grounds we got online specially made for you go appreciate that. After what I went through last year they ought to have a damn line for me. Yeah so they want me give me all through and then the chills started hitting me but I I. I held together pretty good. Then we went later on to the side of where I dropped and we went me. My Wife. My sister was with us. He did not go to that site. She said she couldn't handle that. But me my my wife and the two fellows that were with us the year before we went over to the dike that'll prayer. What was your emotion and your experience like then being at Amen Corner in that same place. A year later grateful grateful to be alive and being able to read some game with especially when family being there they were the backbone of what to give me to where. I was at two it. Just it wasn't just me. Johnny sits and watches remain corner taking in all the action. Eventually Tiger comes through. Tire comes to eleven at three-under-par from the fairway watches this approach. Fly just ten feet below the cup. He flags is approach at the difficult par four eleventh then pours in his Birdie. Putt to get to four under. It's one of just a handful birdies on the whole that day then he steps up to the twelfth t not far from Johnny sitting and he sticks to five feet this T- shot at the par-three twelve from one hundred and fifty three yards. Just five feet away. Four Birdie as Tigers Group has towards the green the horn sounds plays suspended johnny and others huddled under a shelter. He shares his story with a few people in the crowd. He's thinking a lot about his past year and a lot about tiger woods. Just kinda fitting had how. He was making his comeback in here. I was trying to make mine. It was just kind of coincide together Friday night after the tournament action is done for the day Johnny and his friends head home but they're still following the action intently by Sunday morning. Johnny is posted up in his living room watching his favorite Golfer. Pull off the unthinkable turn glory. Where were you when you when you watch tiger finish that often in? What was that? Like as someone that has been at Tiger Fan and then also had this other connection to them could relate to him as you guys remote both making your comebacks and you at the question that you bunch at me. That's what was happening when it happened. Yeah go it's like it's like you go to another place. Gobber had been how? `Bout that that's going to do for this week's edition of the drop zone. This episode was produced by Lee Finer thankfully All right thanks so much to Johnny Pruitt for sharing his story with us. Janis plans for this year's masters. We're actually supposed to be similar to the last two years ahead to Augusta Thursday night. Get dinner at Longhorns head out to the course on Friday but Johnny's and the rest of our masters plans have obviously all been interrupted by corona virus But with the master's in mind this was supposed to be Masters Week. So I want to bring in my co host. Sean sock Sean. Were celebrating the masters this week anyway. one of the ways redoing. That is well by pretending that it was still happening. So tell me a little bit about your best efforts to recreate the masters. Gosh well my best efforts really kind of lean heavily on the team. At data golf they use all kinds of Gulf stats and performance ratings to basically help gamblers they kind of create their own ranking system of who the actual best players in the world they model how tournaments will likely play. Do Win percentages all that stuff Gulf analytics like to the degree and so I asked them said. Hey guys can you kind of tell us how the masters was going to play out this week and they did. They really delivered a ton of information. I asked him for hole by hole. They gave us over. Fifty six hundred holes played by the ninety four competitors at the masters this year. It's a lot of fun. Jon Rahm shoots sixty five on Thursday. Lee Westwood is in the final pairing on Saturday. Rory ends up making an ace at the twelve. It's it's a lot of fun to kind of. Imagine how you know what would be happening if we had golf shots being struck this week. Unfortunately that's not the case but in this simulator world we can believe that you know somewhat somewhat real and act as though act as a top ten player actually claimed another guy now the winner won't say who because you should go read. Shawn's article respectfully declined my offer for a fake assume Paul greenjackets real the real the real winner the actual winner of our take masters declined to actually do the interview Butler cabin. I thought was top notch idea all right. What else do we have going on on the site. What ship Nick and BAMBERGER UP TO? Yes so that was a master's simulated. We have a fictional masters being created by two of our most creative people to seniors eligible neck and Michael. Bamberger they in their world. This fake world of the twenty twenty master's hopped on Tigers private jet from Jupiter. And we're mixing along with tigers agent. His new press operations lead hope Hicks Goofy a lot of fun Hicks in are really incredibly charitable of tiger. Given you know Michael. Just wrote a book about into then invite him on his private jet. Yeah it's a lot of fun. They're going to do a different installment every single day. So that was the first one on Sunday night. Prior to the masters kind of includes how guys are arriving at Augusta National. Each day is going to get better. I know that to be true. Like Wednesday will include A number of par three contest stuff. I'm sure there will be a lot of juicy comments from the Tuesday press conferences. That are supposed to be happening but won't be Yeah it'll be a lot of fun and think of the two people are staff the two people in the Gulf world that can do this. It would be these two writers who have written books together. They've written fictional books together. It's obviously there are infinite downsides to this entire situation but there is one thing which is these two guys getting deflects. They're riding muscles a little bit. We're getting multiple fake masters which we would trade for real masters. Hopefully we'll have one in the fall all right but how about next week on the drop zone. You're going to be taking over hosting duties. What do you got for us? Yeah it's about time you've kind of crush with these first. Two episodes of the relaunch drop zone but next week we're going to have a tale about holes in one and how one person is incredibly lucky. Because he's got way more than me Dylan. How many have you ever wondered one ace while that's one more than me and about fifty less than our story for next week? I'm a skeptic but I am willing to be proven wrong so we'll look forward to that. Thank you guys for listening to the drop zone. I'm Dylan to chair. John's Ach join us next week.

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