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Catch of the Day: Eleven Individuals from Lagos, Nigeria Indicted for Conspiring to Commit Wire Fraud

Ruin a Bad Guy's Day Radio - Fraud Prevention Podcast

16:41 min | 3 years ago

Catch of the Day: Eleven Individuals from Lagos, Nigeria Indicted for Conspiring to Commit Wire Fraud

"Welcome to ruin a back is day radio podcast with fraud expert skip buyers. This is your guide to fighting fraud and chargebacks learn the best fraud prevention solutions and strategies how to enhance your fraud prevention team and held on prosecute criminals. Now, here's your host skip buyers. Welcome to ruin a bad guys day radio network. This is Scott Myers. Reporting on the catch of the day. And today's catch the day comes from the United States Justice department Levin. Individuals from Lagos Nigeria have been indicted for conspiracy to commit wire fraud in Jacksonville, Florida, United States. Attorney Maria Lopez announces the return of an indictment charging numerous individuals from Nigeria with conspiracy to commit wire fraud, if convicted each person faces a maximum penalty of twenty years in federal prison, according to the indictment the defendants all Nigerian citizens targeted multiple US corporations, phishing emails requesting that the company's payroll or human resources personnel, sin IRS forms w two. Containing employees personal identifying information for their review the use spoofed Email addresses which marked. In mass the actual Email addresses making it appear as if the message was sent from a higher level manager within the victim companies. So let's talk about Email spoofing, we talked about this sometimes in the past on other podcasts in Email spoofing, and phishing while this is really a huge thing right now really making the news. A lot of this is connected to some of these large data breaches we seen in the recent past. But as you recall, it Email spoofing is the forgery of an Email header or Email information. So that the message appears to have originated from someone or somewhere other than the actual source. Yeah. That makes sense, right? So Email spoofing is a tactic used by bad guys in phishing and spam campaigns because people are more likely to open an Email when they think in believe has been sent from a legitimate source or remember from the past podcast, we talked about fishing and some of these. Are more directed what we're talking about right now spearfishing type attempts where it's more personalized is directed to you. It looks legitimate and is asking for a call to action is asking for information is probably again, an urgent matter that these guys want you to attend to in a in a timely fashion. So they're trying to make do something very quickly. So that they can obtain some more personal identifiable information to get through this scheme. So the information goes on to say that numerous companies around the United States were victimized by the sophisticated scheme, including a local Jacksonville, Florida based business the defendants once they obtain the tens of thousands of employees w two forms. Use the information to file false federal income tax returns with the IRS claiming millions of dollars in fraudulent refunds so to receive the fraudulent tax refunds generator from the scheme. The defendants us individuals in the United States to accept the proceeds and then send the money back to Lagos Nigeria and many essences these individuals assisting in the United States were victims of a romance scheme whereby the defendants developed online, relationships using fake social media outlet. So let's talk about romance fraud or romance scheme. Very interesting. This happens quite a bit out there with all the information available on social media between Facebook and Twitter and other social platforms, but romance schemes and romance fraud. Really sometimes happens often on face Facebook, where victims will friend other suspects unknowingly without verifying, some sort of bogus claim that they have a mutual friend. And they start exchanging information read each other's, walls and information and photos, they would start posting things. They will. Like others. They serve building this relationship and sooner or later, they searched sharing emails and then start sharing pictures in his all about the Frossard developing this relationship, so this is pretty much standard operating procedure for romance type schemers or scammers who will assume another person's identity to trick victim, and they make themselves out to be an average Lucan type guy or gal, you know. They don't really try to go overboard in exaggerate who they are. And what they do. They wanna be kinda average in kind of fit in. And so that they're more believable. So again, the scammers intention here is to establish a quick relationship with someone endear themselves to that victim, obviously gain that trust in sometimes these people actually propose marriage, and then really what they end up doing is as some point they'll try to make plans to meet in person to get closer and share information, and, you know, become more friendly, but aloft in times that. Never happens that the bag is just too busy. And that just never happens. But eventually they build a relationship part of the romance scheme. Here is that they will ask the victim for money in according to the FBI's internet crime complaint center, which is three which provides all of us, a means of reporting internet type of crimes, especially romance scams like this one and sometimes are also called confidence fraud result actually in the highest amount of financial losses to victims wing compared to other crimes kind of sad. Isn't it? Everyone's looking for that great relationship with somebody. And so many people seem to be lonely, pretty unfortunate. But actually, I'm going to read some things from the actual indictment from the just Justice department into reads like this Vic victim one was a company that provided transportation services and logistics with his headquarters in Jacksonville, Florida. In addition victim one other corporations located across the. The country were targeted by this conspiracy. In addition to the corporate victims more than thirteen hundred other employees of corporate victim number one in Jacksonville, Florida had their personal identifying information including forms including the W twos. Those were stolen identified with actual individual victims. So the indictment actually goes onto explain the terminology behind this conspiracy to commit fraud, which they term as a business Email compromise. And they explain as many of you know, it is a type of fraudulent scheme targeting businesses in a business Email compromise uses among other things Email spoofing to obtain confidential business information, so the scam cured out by among other things creating spoofed Email addresses that appear to be legitimate Email accounts in using that spoofed Email address. S two fraudulently induced an employee there to revive personal identifying information like a pin number account number something else to open up another part of an Email or some other account to get more personal information. So again, Email spoofing refers the act of altering and emails information. So that the Email appears to the recipient to come from different Email address other than the one that has actually being sent from. What does that really mean? In this case, they had nightmares explains. It really the goals of this conspiracies all tied together with this spoofing in the Email compromise conspiracy here, but it was the goal of this conspiracy for these defendants and their co-conspirators here in the United States to enrich themselves by using this business Email compromise to trick this victim company and other companies into emailing their employees, personal identifiable information to the defendants and co conspirators and then. In using that information to file fraudulent tax returns with the IRS which falsely claimed millions of dollars in tax refunds. So the manner in means of this whole conspiracy really played out by these defendants and their co conspirators maze of exchange different targeted lists that detail the names of United States corporations, including this one particular corporation in Jacksonville, Florida in the name and Email address of each corporation's chief executive or chief financial officer in the name in Email dress of a payroll or human resources employee information that these co conspirators here could use a Curie out the business Email compromise scheme further part of the conspiracy was that the fence and their co-conspirators created these spoofed Email addresses, obviously, it made it easy for them to fake out these employees at these companies, so these appear to be legit. Like, I said before legitimate Email addresses associated with different executives within this company this corporation and other victim corporation. So a lot of this is included in what we've talked about before other podcasts, and you should really really be familiar with this type of scheme and educate other employees within your organization, but is often called, and it doesn't say it here, but it's often caused CEO fraud targeted spear fishing so see you fraud, again, our CEO fishing is a scam. Which is what they're describing here in which cybercriminals spoof company emails, and then they impersonate these executives to try and fool someone else within the organization, either an accounting and finance or HR into executing unauthorized wire transfer or sitting out other confidential tax information pin numbers and anything else and open up an account. So think about so these other employees within the company, we'll get an Email. That they thought or think and believe it came from the of the c o directing them to do something like a wild wire transfer, and because they believe the Email, and it looks legitimate. And they're not to ask a lot of questions. They go head and carried it out. And it's a very very, you know, great scheme here by the bad guys because we're praying on all this misinformation, and and really had have gray scheme where these emails look like legitimate people within an organization, especially people that are executives. So again, this this particular case was investigated by the F B I cyber squad and the Internal Revenue Service criminal investigation division in its current being prosecuted by assistant United States attorney Jay Taylor. I believe there in Florida. So very interesting case. But really, the the me in potatoes of this case are really again fishing in this case, it's spearfishing is. A targeted Email that looks legitimate in this case looks like it's coming from within this organization being directed from someone like a CEO CFO's, you know, and then in that Email, which looks legitimate is being sent to someone else within payroll or finance or human resources requesting additional information that will unlock a bigger account opin or some other information. So these guys can use his information and then the fraud the IRS with fraudulent tax returns. So let's think about this. So this is a bigger scheme a lot of people call this wailing. So I don't know if you guys have heard wailing before but wailing attacks work because executives often, don't participate, insecurity wariness programs, you know, with their company, which is unfortunate. So you know to counter that threat in the risk of CO fraud, ac- CO fishing, you know, all company personnel and people within your organization, everyone should be part of an ongoing security awareness training. For this specific type of fraud scheme that way, you're familiar with what the possibilities of being afforded are. And then in this case, what's interesting to me. No, one of these companies said, hey, wait a minute press. Pas and let me go talk to my boss and see this as legit because you know, my CEO's never asked me to transfer money before to somebody or the CFO's never asked me to release pin numbers personal information on employees before. So maybe there's other things going on in different organizations that do not have an open communication policy, and he in the bag ice really prey on that prey on the business of organizations, and I guess really the lack of communication than a lot of companies have so was really important here. This is a great case FBI in IRAs. Great job investigating this coming together. Collectively collecting this information on a very big international criminal enterprise involving individuals have way cross world, Nigeria and then co conspirators. Located here in the United States. Very interesting case, it's still developing as far as the mala defendants. I didn't read off all the definitive so many involved here both internationally in here in the United States. But again, this is a very dynamic cases still evolving, but the really the lessons. Here are is to is through awareness and communication within your organization. If you do not have security awareness program in your in the on your in particular fraud team, if you're in human resources are in the finance department or fraud prevention get with those folks in your organization get with him and start creating a security worthiness program that really if assizes what to look for with suspicious emails, and there could be a way within your organization that your IT team or someone else can't actually tag certain emails that originate from outside your organization as something as such beware of this Email did not originate from. In internal communication that. Right. There will add a little extra awareness for the recipient to scrutinize Email little bit closer, maybe asset extra question and get someone else involved before it's too late and the exposed their company to a greater so again hats off to the FBI and the IRS org on this and the assistant United States attorney. They're prosecuting. This case is a great example hell, collectively different organizations come together to ruin a bad guys day. More information can be obtained through FBI dot gov. And if you have any internet crime type questions or you need to report a complaint where you may be involved with a phishing scheme a romance scheme. Something dealing with the whaling attack contact the FBI, or as part of the FBI you have the internet crime center, which is high c3 dot gov. Ic- three dot gov. You can report that report the complaint all the particular information is needed there to help them investigate this. And you can see what happens people come together to bag is day. 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Rudy's fall from Grace (with Christine Chung)

Skullduggery

35:26 min | 4 months ago

Rudy's fall from Grace (with Christine Chung)

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America's mayor as he came to be known in the fraught days after september eleventh. But this week. Giuliani is facing headlines. Very different kind. His license to practice law in new york was suspended after a court found what it called uncontrovertible evidence that he presented demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts in support of his client. Donald trump's false claims about last november's election. It was a stunning decision. Not just for what. It said about giuliani but what it concluded about. The lies still being spread by the former president and his allies. We'll talk to one of the lawyers who drafted the complaint that led to this decision and explore. What it means for giuliani trump and the future of american democracy on this episode of skulduggery lou solemnly swear that i will faithfully execute the office of president of the united states to the best. My ability preserve protect and defend constitution of the united states. So help me. God so got so help me god. Don't help me guy. I'm michael isikoff chief. Investigative correspondent for yahoo news. I'm dan kleinman. Editor in chief of yahoo news and i am victory. City a fellow at the brennan center for justice so this decision from the appellate division of the new york state courts is pretty Striking on so many levels. It concludes that rudy giuliani. This sort of you know. Well known national figure a guy who ran for president who is on the cover of newsmagazines who's hailed as a hero both for his days as a prosecutor and as mayor was in their words threatening the public interest the opinion says he is an immediate threat to the public and that there is evidence of continuing misconduct. It stunning yeah. What's so stunning. Is that he he. The court put their money where their mouth is because They concluded that it's too dangerous to let him continue to practice law in new york and so they suspended him throughout the process that the disbarments process. That's still going on. They suspended him before they even had a hearing on the issue because they regard him as a clear and present danger to the public. And i think they're trying to send a message a very strong message that this kind of conduct is completely intolerable. Okay so victoria as the one actual certified lawyer who is a host of skulduggery. Let's just talk about what this means because it seems to me you know. Look not in any way to defend one word of what rudy. Giuliani is said about the election. But you know frivolous complaints and motions get filed in court houses every day filled with all sorts of claims that are never supported and often get tossed out but it's pretty rare to have the lawyer who files them have his or her license suspended and i just wonder know. Does this open the door to you. Know actions and suspensions and disciplinary reviews. That could go well beyond this one case so my first of all i would out contest your contention that frivolous lawsuits are filed in courts every day frivolous somebody. I covered the courts for years and years and there were disciplinary actions against lawyers. Who occasionally did this kind of thing. It look there's a line between aggressive cosc- and fraud and deceit and shooting at him. But let's let's let's not debate the entire judicial system right now. Let's talk about giuliani. So the decision that came down today meticulously goes through nine incidence of lies or efforts to mislead and deceive the court and the public with giuliani acting as a lawyer. They are nine specific. Very specific lies or misrepresentations that he made that go from arizona to georgia to pennsylvania that were repeated that the court goes through in detail. Exactly what he said. What the alleged basis for his statement was and how it was false violated the rules of professional conduct for a lawyer who is barred in the state of new. This is not an isolated incident of giuliani misspeaking in court. One day this was a pervasive pattern of behavior and it's one that the court indicates in its decision that he is continuing to engage in so didn't like republicans state attorneys general file motions in support of same big lie. They went to some of investigation by their bars. Right now. the attorney general in texas i. I'm just saying that you know when we start going down a road where bar committees are gonna start you re investigating and reviewing the status of elected attorneys general. That's going to get pretty ugly and messy for a number of reasons that go beyond the specifics here of the claims about the big. There's no messy about bars investigating attorneys general or or lawyers in private practice. Is those attorneys general or lawyers in private. Practice urge grievously filing rules of professional conduct. That's what bars are there for. What's more frightening. Mike should be if bars declined to investigate. Attorney elected attorneys general and prominent public knees. Because they're afraid of politics then you've got bar associations and courts basically saying there are no standards if you're if you're public and if you're well known and go ahead and get elected and feel free to lie and abuse the office that you were elected to we won't have if you don't cut him off at the knees then it's gonna be all the more harder you know five years from now to deal with this sort of thing. I think this is really about sending a strong message that you cannot undermine the legitimacy of the courts with this kind of conduct. I don't disagree are beaten up on you so much fun enough. Have at it. All i'm saying here is yes the courts the new york state court system made a clear statement today. And and and a very forceful one. The question is whether that message will get through to anybody who doesn't accept the fact that everything rudy giuliani was doing during the a post-election period was was completely fraudulent in our polarized stratified american political system. Right now you know. i'm not sure that it will. Yeah you're right that this is probably won't get through to a lot of people out there who see all of this through their partisan lens but it will get through two lawyers who make their living going to court and litigating cases if they think they could get disbarred for this kind of conduct and we know that there are a lot of those kind of lawyers out there. I'm wondering about cy lynnwood right. But i'm wondering about that guy. Geoffrey clark was head of the civil division and the justice department in those last weeks of the trump era who was trying to get the justice department to back you know what trump was doing challenging the election. You know there's a guy who could come into investigation for the same For the same reasons. There's no telling. I do think the evidence is indicating that a lot of those people aren't having much success getting jobs in the windows so that might be that might be step one in terms of consequence consequences for their behavior and the obvious question that i think we should leave to another podcast so that we can keep talking about rudy. Giuliani is what happened to him. The spectacular fall from grace. And you know there's no debate out there about whether rudy is really changed all that much or if the seeds of this kind of behavior have been there from the beginning and you know lest we forget by the way getting disbarred or having his license as as it happens being suspended for right now may end up being one of the least of his worries in two thousand and twenty one is under investigation by his former office is under criminal investigation right now and he's you know he's his work but but but you're right. It's the what led to this. Is he just as he. Just you know constitutionally so addicted to the attention that he's willing to do anything in order to grab that attention to be in the spotlight to feel like he's a person of power and influence is that what was going on was was m- money did he was. He was he in it for the money from combination of those things we could do estimate the money. Hey very quickly. Just one thing worth mentioning before we get to our guest. The speaker pelosi announced today that the house on its own. We'll go forward creating a select committee to investigate the events of january sixth. That's something that a lot of people will certainly welcome the question fighting a congressional subpoena next up for a what does what the first step is. What is kevin mccarthy do. Does he appoint members to republican members to the select committee. And if he does who will they be will they be the adam kin zingers. Liz cheney's of the world or will they be ginger. Jim jordan gyms royal author except we can probably exclude matt gaetz. I don't endless. Endless chain and marjorie taylor green ink those three. I'll bet will not be on it anyway. Lot to talk about with christine chung. So let's get to and we now have with us christine chung a former prosecutor in the southern district of new york the same office. That rudy giuliani headed. Us attorney many years ago and she helped draft the letter from the lawyers defending american democracy group. That led to this remarkable decision by the new york state courts. Appellate division today christine. Welcome to skulduggery. Thanks mike i'm happy to be here and you must be feeling pretty good. Seeing this decision about a process you helped put in motion. It's a result that we asked for. Which is that. He be suspended even while he was being further. Investigated by the court system for ethics violation. So i'm very pleased at the result. But i would also say it's a result that i believe others asked for in addition to l. dad. We made a public complaints. We know of others and they're probably were many others so it's a victory for all lawyers wanna police their profession. So one question. I want to drill down on. Because i looked at the decision and one thing that left out at me is the complaint filed. Said that he didn't just make false. And misleading statements about the twenty twenty election. He made knowingly false and misleading statements about the election. So just explain how you know and the court agreed that these statements about fraud. That rudy giuliani made all over the place after the election were knowingly false statements. Well one part of the answer is that we know that rudy giuliani knows. What a false statement is. He used to prosecute people for making false statements and for lying or misrepresenting themselves to is. There's never been any basis for what he was saying. There was never any grounding for saying that millions tens of millions of votes were were miscounted or that. There was fraud behind them. He alleged a massive fraud enough to change the election. Even he didn't have the proof of that so the other thing is as it went on as the administration then administration said that it was the cleanest election in history as court after court ruled after him. If you didn't know it at the beginning you knew as you went that what you were saying was false so you know another gratifying aspect of the decision. Is they say that even though it sort of an open question whether in new york the law requires a knowing lie they find that there should be that requirement a higher requirement and the requirement is met here but look as a former federal prosecutor. You know if you're going to prove a knowingly false statement which is perjury you have to get inside the guy's head you have to have some evidence that he knew what he was saying was false and here yes. I get the point that nothing supported. What rudy giuliani was saying. No evidence was coming forward. But how do you get inside his head and make a determination that he knew what he was saying was wrong. You get inside people's head to fraud. Every single day of the week. It happens every day in court and this court said just to give one of their examples. You were saying that there was a big enough that you were alleging fraud saying the pennsylvania case and then when you were really pressed. You admitted you weren't alleging fraud. Okay one hundred and eighty degrees so they did a very good job of in my view of breaking down to a number of statements and saying to these statements. These were the knowing falsehoods. And that's what you need to do. One another really. I think wonderful aspect of this is how fact-based the decision is. It really is a diligent examination of what was said and picking out of the examples in the places where rudy giuliani did make intention allies christine. Let's step back for a second. Just how big a deal is this. How important is this decision. We know giuliani himself is a pretty big name. But how often does the new york court do things like this. you know. i'm not an ethics expert. But i would guess that if you looked for decisions in which lawyers were temporarily suspended from practicing law they would tend to be much more small bore things like where there's rock solid proof that a client was stealing from his attorney and continue to do so. Because there has to be incontrovertible proof and it has to be an ongoing threat to the public so in terms of the the the consequential listen like everything else in this instance. The context and the consequences are potentially really important. I mean you're talking about somebody who you know. There are other investigations that are being talked about. You know the majority of republicans still believe that there. No big lie that it wasn't a lie at all. The election was stolen. So where the repub reprecussions go. Is you know that's part of why it was so important to us to make complaint in the first place christine. I have two questions. One's a kind of a process question and then it kind of a bigger picture question. The process question is he is now been suspended and cannot practice law in new york but he has not been disbarred yet. Is that typical that you'd be suspended and then disbarred later after there's been a hearing and you've been allowed to to tell your side of the story or is this an extraordinary case because the concluded that he's a clear and present danger to republic. That's actually that's actually the bigger picture question. I was going to get at but you can take the first part of it and then we can get to the second part. Yeah the answer is the latter. It's it's unusual just because the standard is so high and you think they did that. Because of the second thing that i was talking about which they they talked about him. You know these attacks on the public that is he's an immediate threat to the public. The country is being torn. apart by these continued attacks. Is that y you think. The court felt that it had to actually suspend him even before he was disbarred. We may be saying the same thing. I'll put a slightly different angle on. I mean i would unpack it a little bit to this one the lie. He told the ethical violation that he engaged in is probably the most important consequential one that you could engage in. This is not lying about something you're is or this is saying that the election was stolen. Presidential election was stolen and then too. I think if you remember back in time. Even after january sixth even after biden was declared president rudy. Giuliani continued to disseminate the big lie. It continued to lie about things. Like dominion to maintain that the right president wasn't sitting in the chair and that has now become the basis for these voter suppression efforts. So something that. Even we didn't know at the time that we filed our complaint. Which is that the big lie would continue to live on that at least in my view is the clear and present danger. They have a slightly different take on it. But i think overall they're right he did not stop saying. What are we saying even today. Even today daniel and mike. I mean he's saying you saying this is evidence that i live in an authoritarian regime. We should be very clear on who is promoting an authoritarian regime. Yeah and it just among the particulars that the court analyzed was. Giuliani makes the claim that in one of the court filings and That in pennsylvania. More absentee ballots were returned than were mailed out. He claimed two point. Five million were returned. Only one point eight million had been mailed out in fact over three million had been mailed out that was available information on the pennsylvania secretary of state's website and i guess in his defense Giuliani claimed well. That's what a member of my team told me. So i guess is defense would be. I was just relying what somebody told me. I guess you would argue and the court concluded that. That's not good enough. If you're a lawyer making snell mike. It's a little different than that. What they say. Especially in footnote four is. They gave him the opportunity to prove his assertions and he failed to do it. So it's not that this is what he would say or would be doing. He had the opportunity to do it and he didn't come up with the proof. Where is the person who told him that. There's no affidavit. That person saying i in fact we on this so he can say anything he wants. The court gave him his chance to come up with the goods and put his money whereas mouth office and he was unable to do it even with his livelihood on the line in fact one of the themes running through to court's decision. It seems as that. Giuliani didn't take this complaint against him seriously. He didn't provide the facts. He didn't raise a release serious defense to it is that is that your assessment of of what the court is saying. It's a possibility but victoria. It also could be the simplest explanation. Which is he doesn't have the proof. You just doesn't have the proof you know and and that's been sort of the way that it's gone. I mean from day to day in the way that this has happened. he's fallen back and fallen back on explanations. And what happens in court. Is you get every chance that you can to get your own lawyers and put in your proof. And he just didn't do it. So this is such an Ignominy and or development in for a career that has been very long and over the years you know quite prominent and even distinguished at times. You were a a usa in the southern district of new york. The us attorney's office that giuliani. Did you overlap with him. Number one just number two you just your own thoughts about having such a prominent figure a guy who made big headlines when he was running your own office having to face something like this. I never overlapped with rudy. I was an intern in the trees office when he was. Us attorney. But by the time. I came in usa he was no longer. The us attorney. I i definitely agree that there are tragic and sort of sad aspects of this also think that he knows what he's doing and he has among other things as the dominion complaint which is also mentioned in the in the court. Decision lays out you know. He's kind of making. These lies to remain relevant and remain important and continue to be influential. But in doing that he's departed from the truth and no lawyer has the perogatives to do that. So many lawyers. You know the value of what we were doing is saying as a profession. This is not our standard and many lawyers who thought about representing. Mr trump stepped back because that was a line they would not cross. And i think rudy is totally capable of making those decisions and he's still making very calculated ones that he wants to you know however the get turned out he he did say that yes. I was asking for twenty thousand dollars a day. He appears on his radio show in his selling products. He remains in the news. And you know those are very real. Incentives that i think that he does feel in. Engaging in this misconduct christine. This decision of course only applies to new york state but presumably rudy. Giuliani is a member of bars in many other jurisdictions around the country including washington d. c. in pennsylvania and a bunch of other places. Is your group gonna pursue complaints as well so eldad now. I'm not affiliated with them anymore. But they had filed even before the complaint against rudy they had filed the complaint against. Bill barr in dc. I actually am not sure that rudy. Giuliani is a member of so many other bars. I've heard that he's a member of the d. c. bar but beyond that i'm not i'm not that sure and the question would be illegal one. Some bars have reciprocity so that if he got hard in one place we will be barred in a different place. So i'm not sure what. Those concerts are. Mostly complaint against bill barr about. It has a number of dimensions. I think i would refer you to it because it's a little. It's not sure that i didn't work on that. So i don't have the most easy access to or recollection. What's in it but there was the very interesting angle there is. We recently learned or l. Dead recently learned it became public that l. Dad received a response from the dc bar. Saying oh we don't. We often receive complaints about political figures. And we don't get involved in that and also your information is not firsthand. So we're not going to investigate. Bill barr based on your information among other things. The bill barr complaint did have to do with the muller muller investigation and whether he misrepresented in his summary what was what was the conclusion of the of the muller investigation report. And you may know that there have recently been a couple of court decisions. Crit- criticizing bill barr very heavily for what was done in that episode. So those are some of the garland. Justice department seems to be defending the withholding of the document that the court criticized so this is not just about bill barr. It's about the position of garland's justice department garland's position is one thing but i don't think that they're saying that. I don't think that they're going so far as to approve everything that was on that that eldad complained about in their complain about bill barr. Let's put it that way. The way that the the report was summarized in particular so in in dc what you have in juxtaposition is the new york grievance system and court system gearing up really to consider this quite expeditiously in seriously as is apparent from the face of the decision. And then you have the dc bar. Basically saying we're going to immunize anything. That's political in our view without regard to whether or not it was truth telling and that should be really disturbing to people among other things it means that uniform standards are not going to be enforced uniformly so l. That is engaged now or members of l. dad together with other prominent lawyers including four four former leaders of the d. c. bar. In pushing back they've written back to the dc grievance apparatus said this is not acceptable. If you have a blanket rule that you're not going to get involved in political figures or political situations and you're requiring first-hand knowledge which is nowhere in your rules and by the way we were all firsthand witnesses to that then. You're not doing your jobs properly. So christine rudy. Giuliani wasn't the only lawyer representing donald. Trump you also have lawyers like sydney powell lynnwood who were involved and who you know who said as many outlandish things and made false representations as well and they they to face these kinds of complaints as well is your is the organization for complaints against them. Well there's a range of things going on in different places. For example in michigan a federal judge has ordered. I think everything including hearing into y frivolous claims made their in election litigation. That was emotion. That was brought. By if i remember right. The state and the locality who are the victims of these false election claims. You've got lawyers. Who on their own initiative or opposing. What are called pro hockey vichai motions. So if you have a license in one state and you go to practice in another one you have to make a special motion to be admitted and there are ordinary citizen lawyers who are intervening in those cases to say mr x. Lawyer engaged in this misconduct and he should not be admitted in this sister. State to practice law. You've got lost students who like drexel who moved to revoke ruyigi. Lonnie's honorary degree. So pat paxton is facing disciplinary sanctions in texas so l. designate organization was a bit of a tip of the spear and will continue to work in this area. But i think the other thing that is that as kind of as we felt it might seem like it's a long shot or it's hopeless but it is gratifying to see lawyer. Step up and make efforts to bring accountability when fellow lawyers step over lines because when you when you filed this letter earlier this year people told you it was hopeless. Didn't a said don't don't do. It will never go anywhere right. Well specifically they said that asking for the temporary suspension the interim suspension was really really a long shot because that is such a really high standard. There has to be incontrovertible proof of a violation and the ongoing threat to safety that we discussed To the public interest so we felt it was absolutely the right thing to ask for based on the facts but in terms of precedents or what people were predicting that the bar committee or the court would take up. Yeah i think that people will tell you who know this field that it's a pretty big surprise. Presumably your broader mission here is to go after rudy giuliani or the lawyers who represented donald trump. But to sort of use the court system. In a way to you know put the stake through the heart of the big live propagated by donald trump. So put in that context. How significant is this and are there other actions and ways. You can help accomplish what i assumed to be the broader goal here yeah. I think there's sort of team broader goals. One is definitely the one that you mentioned. Mike which is where commuter strategically to to cut the knees from people or actors who may be important architects. An orchestrators rudy was trump's national campaign litigation coordinator so that kind of important but to i think it's very important even if we had never gotten court relief for lawyers to say this is not what lawyers do incredibly important. Because when when rudy and trump went to the courts to try to get to contest the results election they're actually using the legitimacy of the court system to imbue their own false claims with some sort of in premature legitimacy and that's completely inappropriate. This is an effort. It seems to me maybe more important than the one that mike referred to to uphold the legitimacy of the judicial system. I mean it's it's one of the last institutions that has not been eroded in the last few years exactly and listen. I come at it my own background. On rule of law is from from genocide and warcrimes. Okay so rudy talks about authoritarianism. The reason that something like nazism takes hold is that when the state failed lawyers didn't step up to say we won't become your your puppet regime and check with sevaka or or or poland and doctors didn't step up and say we're not going to experiment on people for no reason and business people didn't step up and say we're not going to put people into our ovens okay so when the state starts failing the professions are the next safety net to say this is not acceptable and it's fun to make lawyers jokes but most lawyers go round observing their ethical obligations and the public needs to know that lawyers are saying this is not appropriate conduct. It's incredibly inappropriate. Consequential conduct christine. What's next in this process. Well i think that the broader mission is sort of rule of law and accountability and there was a time when people were thinking. Well maybe after the election all becomes unnecessary. That's clearly not true. So i think the work goes on on many fronts. I mean for l. dad. The big issue is mobilising lawyers to speak up as lawyers and as a profession against things that we see that we think are wrong in that are anti-democratic and i think they're ton of great organizations including the brennan center. Who are doing so much work now on that. But i think in broad terms you know when people ask what does the organization going to do next and i. I think i was asked that at least four times on this call. My answer is what are what is everyone doing next. You know that that's what we're trying to do is to get people to understand that we're non l. That is a nonpartisan organization but standing by only leads to one resolved in so you have to get active in some way and if what we did mobilize others if it infuses energy into efforts like the congressional investigation which was just announced. There's going to be an select kennedy today again. Events of january any any lawyer. Any citizen can file an ethics complaint clients complain about their lawyers all the time. So you know it's kind of like you can look to us because we'll try to be leaders and that's what the eldad certainly is but also look in the mirror and think about what you can do that that's at least the the mission of the eldad organization well on that note. I want to thank you for joining us. Your letter was viewed as you pointed out as a long shot when he wrote it. Back in january. so I suppose it must always feel good to have a long shot. Pay off in a big way like Like this did it's it's a shared. It's a shared victory many others. I'm sure wrote in and we know of new york state bar association. Effort is well. They found a very comprehensive complaint. The day after ours. Vashon one k. Thank you guys.

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Bunker Labs with France Hoang

Veteran On the Move

31:56 min | 2 years ago

Bunker Labs with France Hoang

"The army veteran French Hong veteran entrepreneur, who has been on the founding teams of companies that have generated over six hundred million dollars in combined sales and employed over twelve hundred professionals across the fields of law, aerospace defense government services and technology coming up next a veteran on the move. Welcome to veteran on the move. If you're a veteran in transition, an entrepreneur wanna be for someone still stuck at that jail trying to escape this podcast dedicated to your success at now your host Joe green. This episode is brought to you by bench bookkeeping. If you're not manure the last thing when a mess with his bookkeeping, but it is a necessary evil in this world amounts manure ship bench. Bookkeeping relieved that huge burden for me and my business because bench puts bookkeeping on autopilot, to check out bench and get one month free of bookkeeping and take that task off your desk. Good a veteran on the move dot com slash bench. Today. I'm talking with France. Wang from Budel AI, France. Thanks for being here. You got a phenomenal entrepreneurial story before we get started take us back and tell us about what you didn't army. Hi, joe. I it's, it's great to be on veteran in the move podcast. Thanks for having me today. It's always great to talk to a fellow veteran, and especially a fellow veteran entrepreneur, a little bit about my military background, kind of an unusual one first off it. Oh, might my first brush, with the military was at a rather young age. I was born in Vietnam in nineteen seventy three in April seventy five my family and I were in the city of Saigon as communist forces surrounded I like to refer to that, as my first with your moment. But luckily, we were evacuated by the by the US military in the US government as part of operation frequent wind in spring of nineteen seventy five and were fortunately, brought to the United States. As part of the massive evacuation of victims refugees and based on that experience, I was inspired and, and felt obligated to join the military which I did attended West Point, and was commissioned. A second Lieutenant in the army. N P corps in nineteen ninety five and like, I mentioned, I have a bit of an unusual military background. I've actually been commissioned twice in honorably discharged twice. I first time after my office after graduating, West Point I owe the army at least five years on active duty, which I served as a arm EMP in garden spots like being a peacekeeper in the former Yugoslavia and serving at a pleasure from the area with Joe Fort Leavenworth Kansas as deputy provost marshal in swat team commander than actually left the service worked as a worked as a lawyer after attending law school in Washington DC, and even had a stint at the White House as associate. It White House counsel to President Bush, and then in two thousand nine at the age of thirty five. Rejoin the military got my commission back and had my second term service this time joined a special forces unit has the X Oba US army special forces company after a five-month train up deployed to Afghanistan and served a combat tour with a army special forces company in, in eastern Afghanistan in did that and then state in the national guard for a number of years while it's incredible now. Eventually, when you finally did give up the army, did you were you think in hand wanna get into startups and entrepreneurship to Joe is have kind of an entrepreneurial bug when you're in the army when you're younger? Actually, I did not Joe my, my introduction to entrepreneurship came via the a good friend of mine Joe fluid who was an associate with me at a law firm might worked out called Williams and Connolly, Joe is from a family of entrepreneurs, his both his parents were successful entrepreneurs, he himself has like entrepreneur, you know, if there was entrepreneur like if there is e type blood for entrepeneurship blood, he'd have it in spades running through his veins. And when I was in Afghanistan, I got an Email from Joe one day saying, hey France, I'm starting not one, but two companies and if you were here, I pushed your arm to join right away, but I know you're off there off out there doing fun things, you know, fighting like fighting the Taliban, but as soon as you get back, I'm twisting, your arm to join. And so when I came back, mar deployment my original plan, actually my planet all was to return to the life of. Lawyering, and to return to the US attorney's office, that I was on a leave of absence from. But I sat down with Joe to hear him out. Any pitched me this idea of joining both the law firm that he was the founder of in a company called MAG defense services which at the time was government services company in. He said, look, bunting you're doing the founding team, these companies being entrepreneur, and I listened to him patiently Joe and then I told him. No, thanks. I had a plan, right? Like, like we all do, right? And funny thing is I was walking around DC a couple days later, and I just kept thinking about his offer Joe and it just was weighing on my mind. I realized that if I didn't do this, I was gonna regret it. I applied what I call the rocking chair test, which is where the things that when you're ninety eight years old, and sitting in your rocking chair and looking back in your life. You're gonna regret, not having done and, you know, I'd realized I spent the last year, you know, fighting in Afghanistan alongside some amazing soldiers you know putting myself in harm's way in what was a little bit of career professional and financial risk. And what was holding me back in. So I call Joe back. It said, you know what I was low to hasty. Let's have a, let's have a second discussion and we did. And that led to me joining the founding teams of a law firm and MAG defense services at the same time. Time in the spring of two thousand ten well it's awesome. Now, you not only are you a graduate of west went, but you, we before we hit the record button. You're telling me that you go back and speak on a regular basis, like once a month in, and I mentioned that Liz Agung had been on the show, probably like a year and a half or more ahead and look it up because I didn't know that about that connection ahead of time. So what is it? You're going back to West Point for in in what do you talk into the cadets there about? Yeah. I but about eight months ago, the company that I was on the founding team of MAG defense services, which has now, become MAG, aerospace. I made an exit from it, and with that additional kind of time in space, in my schedule one of the things I decided to do was find ways to give back and one of those methods was to go up and be distinguished visiting lecturer up at West Point in the department of law in so I go up and electron a regular basis at West Point. Teach classes in deliver lectures on topics legal topics innovation entrepreneurship topics AI and data science, and it's just my way of reconnecting with a with a fantastic institution and most importantly, with the cadets there are there. Well, it's awesome. So probably great to hit back through on a regular basis. Like that contribute to that. So big shoutout to the cadets at West Point. Who it's tough for marina say that, but I try tempted once in a while. So I'm envisioning the entire. Dr Young's entire class of entrepreneurship, cadets listening to this episode they're, they're in the classroom. Yeah. Now, I was actually up in that classroom with, with Dr Yang just a couple of weeks ago, and she teaches an impressive class Joan impressive group of cadets. You know, I think that as as today's military evolves. So does the type of junior officer we need? And I've been very impressed with how innovative entrepreneurial, our cadets today's cadets tomorrow junior. Officers are and their ability to think critically and creatively while being grounded in what's pragmatic, and realistic frankly, better than I did. When I was in their shoes, you know, twenty twenty five years ago, and so I, I applaud the efforts of folks like Dr young to bring those skills and methodologies of innovation entrepreneurship to our future junior officers in one of the remember the one of the questions I had asked her was, why, why are we teaching entrepreneurship it whip West Point? Matter of fact, I think that's the title of, of her interview episode in, you know, it's really more obvious than, than you would think, but you part of critical thinking, which. Is what what we do in the military, what we're trying to teach. Our leaders to think critically, especially the more senior they become critical thinking is vital for survival in the entrepreneurship game, which is why veterans typically do quite well in the entrepreneurship realm. It have you had much experience with doing with civilians in entrepreneur roles versus veterans in entrepreneur roles. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I've, I've worked in advised with. Dozens probably, maybe at this point, hundreds of, of entrepreneurs, both veteran, non veteran, and I it's clear that veteran entrepreneurs have both strengths and weaknesses, you know, based on kind of their, their past military experience. Obviously, I think the strengths outweigh the weaknesses. But you know as, as veteran entrepreneurs, there's, there's a lot that we can add to the entrepreneurial ecosystem and there's a lot frankly, we can learn from those in other parts that go system. So we're where is it your where you're at? Now, if you go back to twenty ten when you when you left being when you left the, you're essentially, like your government job post military job in you dove into this stored up. Entrepreneurship world what did you first start with in walk us through the progression from twenty ten till now? Has. So I, I started with the law firm of f h h than it was fluid. Hebrew in Hong back then we had handful of lawyers in, maybe it doesn't clients took over immediately the job of kind of sales in growth of the law firm. Simultaneously? Joined MAG defense services, as one of those C, suite executives at the time, we had a dozen employees in a couple of government contracts almost immediately, both companies, you know, suffered near with you'll moments that the law firm, lost its biggest client than the vast majority of our revenue. Just as I came on board, a similar thing happened to, to MAG with the law firm. You know, the, the owners were writing checks to make payroll, not not long after I joined, which is kind of the opposite of why you join a company, right? You're, you're there to make money, not pay money, and MAG. We shortly after maybe a year or two after I joined, you know, we, we survived the the rough times, but then realized that if we wanted to become the company wanted to become which was a aero surveillance company, we had to make a big move. And by three aircraft. The problem was the aircraft cost several million dollars. We didn't have any investors in no one of us alone. And so the entire founding team pulled together millions of dollars by emptying out savings, accounts, 4._0._1._K's maxing out, credit cards in some cases, not telling spouses, about second mortgages or 4._0._1._K's being emptied out. And, and like in that in a good game of a poker. All in on buying these three aircrafts that were on contract to kind of kick start the growth that company in, in that paid off the contract, despite being in danger of being terminated was actually renewed continued and became the first Lynch pin contract in MAGS history will MAG in the growing in the intervening eight years to over three hundred million dollars in revenue employing over twelve hundred employees with operators on all six populated continents, the law from in the meantime, whether it it's it's stormy days in has. Grown to over thirty lawyers serving, you know while over thousand clients now in new headquarters in Tyson's, Virginia, and continuing to grow. So you're with in a span of eight years, I feel like I've if entrepreneurship years, our, our dog years, you know, I probably have a centuries were, at least it feels that way of, of entrepreneurial near brushes with with death. Of slept on the dirt degreen yoga mat and military cots, many nights during my days in the military, and now asleep in lots of hotel rooms when I'm on the road. So I know good mattress when a c one few weeks ago, we got her new ghost bid, and let me tell you. It's the best mattress of ever slept on my life. Kelly lives at two and we don't ever share shows going back to a traditional mattress. So what separates go sped from the others is that they're found on the principle of delivering a bigger better and more comfortable mattress at lower costs. It's actually significantly lower than your typical mattress goes bit has three mattresses all designed to help you sleep better. And they offer a hundred one night, hassle-free return and amazing customer service. They've got over twenty thousand positive reviews so need to check them out at veteran on the move dot com slash ghost bed, where you can save a couple of hundred dollars off a mattress, which is. Ready lower than if you go to mattress shop. So be church. Check him out again. It's a veteran on the move dot com slash go sped. All right. We're back talking with France. Wang for him. Bootle AI in France read for the break, you were going through some details of some real financial struggles with both, you know both the law firm in, in MAG, the basically, you can get in that defense contract. And how a lot of the members were pulling money out of their Bank accounts, pulling money out of their houses, and everything else, just to make it happen and survive. Would you talk a little bit about, you know, the reality of the entrepreneurial struggle and what can vice you might have for anybody in the military, this considered entrepreneurship charge out? I think entrepreneurship is, is wonderful in theory, and is a very gritty and hard and and challenging in practice. And there are certain certain. Polities about entrepreneurship that a veteran in particular should confront right? I the military is a gigantic safety net in the sense that it takes care of you. Right. You know where your paycheck's coming from, you know, you know where your next assignments going to be, you know, you're going to get housing? So all those things go away. Once you leave the military right in, in the big civilian world. You know, it doesn't take care of you in the same way the military does. And that's that's both a a pro. And con so it's doubly so when you make the move to be an entrepreneur, because unlike if you're moving from, like a military jobs civilian job. At least you can count on the steady paycheck. And at least you can count on a system where people are telling you. Hey, this is what success looks like maybe it's not, not the same organized system. Right. That we're used you in the military. But at least there's some type system with an being an entrepreneur, you're creating that system. Right. You're creating not success now. That's. That sounds bad right in the sense. Like, wow, how do I figure that out? But it's also goodness sense that it's an open slate. And so if, if the idea of creating something from scratch right of creating something that adds value to other people's lives that makes a difference is exciting to you. Right. If that if that makes you wake up in the morning, passionate about what you do the same way that serving in uniform did than perhaps being an entrepreneur for you, because I think at its heart entrepreneurship is about service. It's about creating and bring to market, a product or service, that helps other people and great entrepreneurs succeed because they really feel that what they're doing is calling not dissimilar to the way that someone military feels that what they're doing us a calling to serve by putting on the uniform and putting themselves in harm's way in defense of our of our constitution in our country. And so, I think if if you find. Something that you're not passionate about. In terms of creating value for other people. That's a good reason to become an entrepreneur, so, you know, the first piece of advice, I have for folks is make sure that whatever you're doing. You have not level of passionate about, you know, in this, in the second piece of vice I have is that entrepreneurship is a contact sport. And what do I mean by that? I mean it's about connecting with people. Right. It's about before you become an entrepreneur, connecting with the people who've gone down this road ahead of you and learning as much as you can before you embark on it. So you go in educated. And then at once you embark on it continue to connect with people you in and around you who are part of the entre, neuro ecosystem in general, and in part of the veteran, entrepreneurial ecosystem in particular, you don't need to go to loan, and I think this is where one of the great strengths of the military. You know, we don't leave a comrade behind right cooperating graduate, kicks in. And there are any number of organizations now that are out there to enable encourage better. Entrepreneurship eiser on the national board of bunker labs, which is one of those organizations. And if you're a veteran thinking about entrepreneurship, I highly encourage you to look up the nearest bunker labs chapter and, and join it you'll meet fellow veteran. Entrepreneurs at every stage of the entrepreneurial journey and you'll learn a lot. I've had a couple of folks from bunker labs couple of, you know, couple of local directors that kind of thing on the show, previously great things to say about buckle ABS of never actually been in one or, you know, seeing firsthand with the do. But, you know, a they've got a phenomenal reputation. Joe we got we should get a chapter out near you. Then they're there, I think there is or at least there was one here in the Kansas City area and. Navy? Seal guy that I knew here in town. Sean was he was a director for a while. I don't think he is anymore, but I've kind of lost contact with what's happening with that? So, yeah. Definitely have to check into that. Joe I'm actually looking at the bunker labs website now. And it looks like we currently don't have an active Kansas City chapter. So maybe, maybe there's an opportunity for both you and bunker labs here to Sansom. Yeah, that's good. I'll definitely have to look into that. We can talk afterwards. That'd be great and. Yeah. Sean was his navy seal and he, I know he was the first director of the one here in Kansas City. And I'm not really sure details of what happened. I heard it didn't go that, well in the beginning or something, but that was several years ago and buckle labs is pretty pretty fresh. Pretty green at the time to while the bunker labs is under Todd Connors leadership has had tremendous success. In opening chapters, across the country end is Charlie in a campaign to open up dozens of new chapters across the country. So this is, this is perfect timing. Joe? Yeah, I mean I talk all the time and I stress all the time. You got you gotta get out of the, you know, you got to get out of the barracks, you gotta get out of your house, you to get out there and meet people in network, and especially if you're still in the military, don't wait until you're almost getting out, or you've already gotten out before you start building a network, as you can you can spend years building a powerful network before you ever get out of the military. I mean, I'm not sure how you met the guy you knew. But, you know, here's this, this guy's calling you. Well, I think you said while you're in, you will you in Afghanistan when the guy was while chat with his when you get back when I mean, how awesome is that? But that would never have happened. If you didn't have that network of, of contacts, and friends, and people that are always looking for guys like you. So perfect example of strong networking, skills, and maintaining contacts. You'd been out for a little bit which allowed you to get some civilian network experienced, but. The civilian sector civilian people believe it or not. They are maybe not right out the front gate of whatever base or post your on. But most of the country is very isolated from the military community, and they would love nothing more than to be heavily involved in military, folks lives, and, and be be able to network with them, and, and collaborate, and maybe even end up offering a job or going into business with military veterans when they get out. So do not underestimate, how much civilians really want to be in touch with and have relationships with military, folks. It's, it's, it's really incredible. And I think a lot of as your so isolated on the bays. The post, whatever we don't really recognize that we don't see it. But I'm here to tell you. It's true. It's there now and I, I absolutely agree with that Joe. And there's also rejoin growing recognition, I think there was a time where it was about helping right the veteran now. You understand that? No, really. It's about getting the help from the veteran that, that veterans bringing this unique skill set, and are an asset to both their communities into the companies. They join hoops. And so, the civilian sector is actively seeking out the military, not as not as a way of helping the veteran and giving back that way, but of way of giving the veteran opportunity to help their organizations in recognizing that the, the talents that are veteran can bring to bear, and, and I agree with you hundred percent but your, your comment about networking, one of the things I truly believe that is that the best time to make a friend is before you need a friend and the best way to make a friend is to be a friend. And so, you know, networking isn't about, you know, some cheesy go into a bunch of events in exchanging business cards, and sending Lincoln invitations and having a big, you know, Lincoln connection count, and a big Rolodex. It's about making meaningful connections with people in a genuine way in finding ways. To add value to other people without really any expectation of anything in return because, you know, when you when you generally care and help people they, they understand that. Right. They, they understand that you're doing this because you, you do care. And guess what that, that means they wanna reciprocate in a genuine way as well. And we instinctively get that in the military, one of the things that always appreciated in both my, my stints of service was the candor insincerity of our of the soldiers, you know, to the to the point where especially, you know, the, the special forces operators our whip were quite candid with me at times. But it was frankly refreshing right? It's nice to know where you stand with someone in there's no sugar coating it that's, that's a wonderful trait. And, you know, military people should take military veterans should take that sincerity with them into the civilian sector absolute, you know, the. The the candor the honesty, sometime. It's almost two to the veterans detriment. They're there the truthfulness and everything that exists. So, but civilians recognized that because a lot of it, sometimes that's hard to find out there and the military definitely breeds at present into you over the years, and you just get used to be surrounded by wreck. You know, oftentimes you don't recognize the quality individuals in the honesty, and truthfulness of people that are around you and to get out, then and then then you realize, maybe, you know, maybe in this vein sector, they don't foster that as much as the military does. But the, the advantage, you have is you've got it, and you recognize it and you can bring that definitely bring that to the table. So, so France, I do want to give you a chance to talk about your what you're currently doing with. Bootle AI. Yes, Thanks, Joe. I'm the founding investor in chairman of the board for a company called Budel AI in a nutshell a Bhutto provides artificial intelligence assistance for nonprofits to acquire a donors and to fundraise. And so we're taking this cutting edge technology, a I, which were all hearing about in applying it to the non profit space. In. So can you talk a little bit about AI artificial intelligence? Just looking at something last night. Were, you know, they, it's a it's a pro it's a company that, and of course, it's, it's an AI company, but it can listen to one of my podcast episodes, put out a full transcript and go through and cut and paste little of audio clips, and deliver them do a whole episode inste- in drop in my inbox. You know, no matter of like five minutes per episode. So I was just looking at that last night. So everyone kind of has an idea of what a I is. But we can explain it a little bit better. Yeah. In in. Cryer chunky. Simple. Not too technical. But you hey, I refers to a whole host of technologies that allows a know a slash agent slash program to think, right. Or to act in ways that resemble an intelligent person. Now, when people think, AI they think of like Hal, or, or some kind of super smart, computer. That, that's general artificial intelligence, which doesn't really exist, yet, the kind of a I we have right now is called weeK'. I ride nor kind of more limited artificial intelligence, and it is specific we AI that does one thing. Well, so in the example you just used that's natural language processing now, which is a pretty fast, evolving sector AI that allows a machine to understand human speech into parse it, right? Into do things with it another sector of a I that we hear a lot about is called machine learning, which allows basically a machine to program, it self based on existing data instead of you having to program it. And so if you have data right and it's labeled in a certain way. Right. So, you know, you're looking to decide for example, you know how much how likely somebody is to buy a house, if you have enough data about that person, you can teach machine to recognize those things in their backgrounds that correlate to likely to buy a house. The machine can then take you can train a machine in the data and then take that model. We call it and apply to new data in a dentist by other people likely to buy a house. And so it's, it's a fancy way of describing away of programming computers. That makes it easier to, to get models that are useful in the real world. It's awesome. It. One thing I've seen all the time and I didn't realize that I was talking to a bought a lot of times when, you know, when you're on a website and like, would you like to chat now in use like you click? Yeah. Let's chat, like evidently, nine t nine ten times, you're, you're not actually talking to a person you're actually talking to a bot if you been involved or know much about bots these days. Oh, yes. So chat bots are another example of of, you know, narrow artificial intelligence week AI fast evolving as well. I you'd be surprised at how easy it is to program about, you know, they're, they're kind of widely available now and are another very common application of, of AI in limited form. For its we're getting close, every time I want to give you the last word you've already given some great advice for those veterans. Those folks still in the military did are looking to get into entrepreneurship at doing give you last word if you're thinking about that military members still in, or they might be going through transition right now or just recently got out, and they they're really looking at running their own shows are no business or getting in entrepreneurship. What kind of advice, would you have form? Yeah. I would go back to talk to folks right like, do your research, read and read and talk. So there's lots of resources out there on the internet and read as much as you can pick up a couple of books that are kind of known in the field you can Google and find any number of lists of books entrepeneurship should read. And then and then connect with other veteran entrepreneurs probably starting with folks in their own network. 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Full Episode: Sunday, April 14, 2019

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Full Episode: Sunday, April 14, 2019

"Are you hiring with indeed you can post job in minutes set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today at indeed dot com slash ABC. That's indeed dot com slash ABC. George Stephanopoulos starts right now. Border battle. They want more people in their sanctuary cities. We can give them an unlimited supply, President Trump pushes a plan to bus migrants to sanctuary cities dominated by Democrats at chest in other notion that is unworthy of the presidency of the United States is more migrants. Flood the border. It's now a genuine crisis as President Trump demands extra-legal actions resisted by his own administration. Democrats condemn the moves. The can they come up with affective policies to address the crisis that debate with White House press secretary, Sarah Sanders, and the House Democrat in charge of homeland security, Bennie Thompson and attorney general William bar in the hawk seat, sparring good occur. I'm sure that was music to Donald Trump's ears after releasing his redacted version of the mullahs report this week is the attorney general said to investigate the investigation will Muller's full report validate bars findings for Democrats who believe the president abused. His power inciting analysis far powerhouse roundtable with Chris Christie, and rob manual. Plus is the twenty twenty field. To grow. I'm running for president during this country back together can this moderate Ohio democrat, make his move. Congressman Tim Ryan joins us live will break down the politics smokeout. The spin the facts that matter this week. From ABC news. It's this week here. Now, she thanked her George Stephanopoulos. Good morning and welcome to this week. It was the defining issue of his first White House run. But as the president gears up for twenty twenty his promise to secure America's southern border is a promise on fulfilled now wall paid for by Mexico. No stemming the flow of migrants to our borders. The numbers are growing by the month overwhelming the system and the president is responding to this political and humanitarian crisis with increasingly incendiary rhetoric and policies threatening to close the border before backing off cleaning house at homeland security and Friday contradicting his own White House by confirming his desire to bus migrants to sanctuary cities run by Democrats, California, certainly is always saying we want more people, and they want more people in their sanctuary cities. Well, we'll give them more people. And let's see if they're so happy they say, we have open arms. They're always saying they have open arms. Let's see if they have open arms. Only hours before White House officials said the idea had been rejected immigration experts noted it was impractical costly possibly illegal Democrats called it callous and cynical politics. But as we come on the air this morning, the president defiant, his staff refining the proposal. And that's where we again with White House press secretary, Sarah Sanders. Sarah, thank you for joining us again. So where does this idea stand right now? What this is an option on the table. I mean, we've talked about a number of different things over the last two years that we'd love to see happen. Certainly this wouldn't be our first choice because ideally, we wouldn't be dealing with the massive influx of illegal immigrants coming across the border, the crisis that we have both from national security and humanitarian standpoint is if Democrats would step up and help the president fixed the laws this all could go away. We wouldn't be having this discussion, and that would be the best thing for the country. And that would certainly be the best way to solve this crisis. Since this problem continued to be unwilling to do that. Then we're going to look at all of our options, and we don't want to put all of the burden on one or two border communities and Democrats have stated time and time again, they support open borders that support sanctuary cities. So let's spread out some of that burden and let's put it in some of those other locations, if that's what they want to see happen happening or refusing to actually help fix the. Problem. But as you know, when this story broke on Thursday, White house officials said flatly the idea had been rejected. We know the President Trump called the former homeland security secretary Kirsten Nielsen and she told him that her legal team reviewed it simply not legal. So how can you continue to push this? I look we have that was brought up at a staff level, and it was determined at that time that logistically there were a lot of challenges, and it probably didn't make sense to move forward in the idea did not go further. He likes it. So well, we're looking to see if there are options that make it possible and doing it in a full and thorough and extensive review, the president likes the idea and Democrats have said they want these individuals into their communities. So let's see if it works in everybody gets a win out of it. Again. This is not the ideal situation. The ideal solution is real simple. It's for congress, particularly Democrats in congress to sit down with the president do their jobs and help us stop this awful crisis. That's taking place at our border. It can't be denied or ignored anymore. Democrats including Obama's secretary from homeland security are now acknowledging that this is a crisis. They can either deal with it at the border and stop it from getting worse or they're going to have to take on some of that burden in their communities if that becomes an option again, that's not our first choice. Probably not even our second or third choice. But we have to look at all options as long as. Kratz refused to do their jobs and fix the problem. I don't understand why the presence attracted to it at all it actually could encourage more immigrants. It's would be easier for these migrants put down roots in the US in sanctuary city. So it seems to run counter to his objectives. Again, this isn't the president's plan. His top priority is to stop the flow of illegal immigration coming into our country to begin with Democrats and ports frankly, keep tying the president's hands and stopping him from being able to do that. We have a massive number of people that are already here we need to take away some of that burden on all of the communities that are along the border like San Diego, and El Paso and look at other options, again, not our first choice. Ideally, congress would fix the problem. They continue to kick the can down the road and not deal with the problem in front of them. They'd rather spend all of their time attacking the president and on these baseless and tax payer funded investigations instead of doing what they were elected to do. And that's actually solve problems. We hope that they will find at some point over the course of their next several days weeks and months to do their jobs and help the president solve real problems. There. It's this one whether it's healthcare or whether it's the other hundred things that we're trying to work on that they seem to want to just continue to ignore. You know, the New York Times CNN or else reporting his trip to the border last week. The President Trump urged Kevin mcalinden now the acting secretary of homeland security to close the border and that he told my border agents, they're not to let to not let migrants in according to CNN the agents were told by their leaders that they had to follow the law, and they'd be personally liable. If they did what the president said homeland security officials were pretty alarmed by what they heard down there at the border last week. Howland security pushed back on this. As has the president. They both pushed back secretary Nielsen as well as the president, I look towards I don't know about you. But CNN is it usually my first stop for a good source, particularly not when it comes to this president the president is actually the president tried to enforce laws. Not go around them. We're a country of laws, and we have a president who supports that. And is not asking anybody to do anything outside of those vows. In fact, he's asking congress to step up and give greater legal standing. So that they can do more to stop this crisis. No one's trying to skirt the law, and certainly not being encouraged by the president. Did you don't see an end there? The prisoners took on the New York Times less than a tweet about the story. And he said that they never even called the check for the truth. But the reporter Maggie Haberman says they actually sent emails to the White House press office three emails that were acknowledging there was simply refused to comment. So who's telling the truth or the president or Maggie Haberman? Look the New York Times regularly steps out of bounds. Even when we respond until them. Something's not true. They still run with the story. I'm not sure that particular story that's in question on this front. But again, I'm going to take the word of the president versus CNN or the New York Times any day of the week. But the times did call and check correct. I I'm not sure about this particular story. I'd have to look back to seeing what story they're talking about. We do talk to them regularly in a lot of times we push back on a story. And that's simply not enough for them. They like to run with anonymous sources on the regular basis about this president. It's an unprecedented amount of negative coverage that not only them, but a number of other outlets. Spend over ninety percent of the coverage about this president is negative despite the fact that our country's doing extremely well. Our economy is booming. Isis has been defeated in Syria. We've gotten rid of countless regulations that have allowed our economy to grow that have allowed more jobs to pour in that have made us an energy dominant country again the country is doing extremely well yet. If you look at the media and the coverage you would think that the whole place was falling apart. I think that is a real problem, and certainly something the president's going to continue to call out. I think every president feels feels they gets up you're doing fair cover. Every once in a while the question is whether or not that accurate. After. Absolutely sitting the question if the question they, but that's the question, though, is that who's telling the truth about whether or not they were contacted. But I do want to move on right now. The president's always been sending out those tweets this week about congresswoman Ilhan, Omar attacking her for how she characterize the nine eleven attacks included in that tweet those images of the towers burning and trying to lot of criticism from Democrats, including the house speaker Nancy Pelosi and this from former Carson bed or work. This is. Bye. Against congresswoman alarm against our Americans happen to be Muslim. She was subject to a death threat last week. Certainly the president is wishing no ill-will and certainly not violence towards anyone. But the president is absolutely. And should be calling out the congresswoman for her not only one time. But history of antisemitic comments, the bigger question is why aren't Democrats doing the same thing? It's absolutely important. The comments that she continues to make and has made. And they look the other way I find what her comments to be absolutely disgraceful and unbefitting of a member of congress. And I think that it's a good thing that the president is calling her out for those comments. And the big question is why aren't Democrats doing it as well? And not just doing it doing it by name. They do these watered-down pushbacks that frankly, they feel like give them enough cover, but aren't really getting the job done sooner centers. Thanks for your time. This morning. You bet. Thanks so much, George. I appreciate it. Democrat response to our from the chair of the house homeland security committee Bennie Thompson, chairman Thompson. Thank you for joining us this morning. I want to get immigration. But let's begin where we left off there with Sarah Sanders. She says Democrats should be condemning the remarks of congresswoman Ilhan, Omar. Well, so the speech she gave and I saw nothing wrong with it. I saw the president's manufactured tweaked where he put pieces in there, but George we are a nation of laws democracy, free speech is here. And again, I saw nothing wrong with the congresswoman speech. You say you saw nothing wrong with the, but she did characterize the most deadly attack ever on American soil terrorist attack ever on American soil, a cold blooded mass murder as some people did something that does seem to downplay the importance or what happened on nine eleven doesn't it? Oh, no question about it. We had over three thousand people who got killed at that event. So as nothing to downplay on it. But again, she spoke to it. I think that president is just seizing that moment. Manufacting what he said. And then moving fall with traditional speed. So. I think that other issues we have to deal with in. So just to be clear on that you agree that characterizing it as some people did something is not the proper way to characterize nine eleven. Well, no question about it. But again, if I look at what the president says on a daily basis, we criticize him almost by the hour. So for him to take the congresswoman all is if another one of his what I think real simplistic attacks. Let's move onto this proposal perhaps that the president's thinking about to move migrants to sanctuary cities. You see any way to do that legally? No, I don't mow import and lit. This is again, his manufactured chaos that he's created over the last two years on the border. This remain in Mexico, the metering zero tolerance put in by the attorney general all those things have just created this crisis before Donald Trump took office. We had a situation that was manageable. We had spikes. But it also went down. But what we have now is a constant pushing of the system. So that it doesn't work this notion that you take on eight away from the northern triangle countries, clearly that wasn't investment that had proven to work. So now, you take that investment away. And obviously those people in those countries have to leave because of the crime and other things that's occurring. So. Rather than being punitive? The president has to step up and provide real leadership which he's failed to do on immigration. He says he needs Democrats as a partner right now. As you put the numbers are really climbing more than one hundred thousand apprehensions last month, a massive increase to almost a million asylum cases of right now, what can be done to get this under control. Well, first of all everybody talks about Democrats Republicans getting together. We absolutely Democrats rated to sit down and talk, but we won't be lectured to by the president. Let's sit down and talk cheer the homeland security committee. I'm prepared to sit with the White House. If we can get somebody in a leadership at D H S, so that we can sit and talk. But right now, we have eight senior vacancies at the department. So we kinda in in a rudderless situation. We're supposed to meet the secretary Omay one at the committee. We're not so now with the acting person whether we do that so individuals tasked with the responsibility of caring for the administration's policy. They're just not soundly in place for this to occur. But you know, we're also seeing this series of reports from coming out of homeland security, and of course, your committee has jurisdiction over homeland security that they've been pushed by the White House by the president by White House staffers, including Cording to some reports by Stephen Miller to put in place policies that bend the law. If they if not break the law, are you developing information that backs up those those contentions, well, we don't. See Stephen Miller as an expert. He's he's a young man who has some novel ideas that most Democrats disagree with. But the point that I'd like to make George is Democrats are prepared to address this situation every financial resource that has been brought four Democrats have supported we've supported adding more men and women to the border patrol. We've made sure technology was available. But the challenge is when you interpret existing law all when a judge ruled against you, the president talks about how bad the judge is as a nation of laws Coequal branches of government judiciary has a role. So if the president would like to work this out, I'm saying he owned you'll show this morning. We absolutely ready as Democrats, but he can't decide I'm not gonna talk to speak of Pelosi. I'm not gonna talk. To champion net. La. I'm not gonna talk to Ben at Thomson. I'm going to go talk to somebody. If that's not how it played Democrats elected us as leaders, and we're the ones to expect that expect it to go forward with this. Final question. Do you believe he's upholding his ought oath to faithfully execute? The laws the United States. I think it's a real challenge at this point. When I've seen the president talk about violence toward Americans. I've seen him talk about women when I seen him do a number of things that that belittle officer the presidency. I'm real concerned. I have a grandson almost have to send him out the room when the president comes on TV because I don't know what's going to come out of his mouth. Thanks for joining us this morning. Thank you coming up. How Tim Ryan? What are the news candidates for twenty twenty can eat break out from a crowded pack joins us live next. This week with George Stephanopoulos. Sponsored by VP. When it comes to hiring. You don't have time to waste you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot com. Get started today at indeed dot com slash ABC. That's indeed dot com slash ABC. There's nothing small about your business. Your passion, your hours your reputation. It's all huge your partnerships even bigger with Dell. Small business technology advisers. You'll get the advice one on one partnership and reliable PC's with Intel core processors to help you get business done. Call eight seven seven buy Dell to speak with an advisor today. That's eight seven seven by Dell. My daughter called me crying school because her friend was crying to her her dad just got transferred to the local General Motors plant the kids had the move. Yeah. My daughter called me, and she said, you gotta do something. And I said. I'm going to do something and I'm going to run for president of the United States. And we're. And he's running now congressman Tim Brian from Ohio, and he joins us live this morning. Congressman thanks for joining us this morning. Let let let's pick up where you left off on the view. There's a lot behind the closing of plants like Lordstown long trends in the global economy. President Trump made those same kind of promises. What can you do that hasn't been done? Well, we need an industrial policy in the United States. We need to sit down with the the business community we need to sit down with the educational community and and use the tax code and figure out how we rebuild the industrial base in the United States. There's plenty of opportunities out there take electric vehicles, for example, we've made one the two million electric vehicles today there's going to be thirty million made by twenty thirty who's gonna make them. I want those made in the United States, George. I want the batteries made in the United States. I want the charging stations made in the United States. It's the president of the United States who needs to convene sit down with the big three sit down with the department of energy put a big plan together. And then cut the workers in on the deal. So they could actually make a middle class wage China today dominates the electric vehicle market. They control forty percent of it. So we've got some work to do and it starts in the White House. That's that's that's one that's one sector of the economy. When you look at the overall economy right now. Several months of straight of job growth years of job growth, actually, lowest unemployment we've seen in a generation right now. Most polls show that the majority of the country bleed the economy's doing well and giving President Trump's some credit. So is this the best crown to challenge him on? Well, it's not doing well where I come from. And it's not doing well in a lot of places around the country. You know, we talked about increasing the minimum wage George people used to make thirty forty bucks an hour. Yeah. The unemployment rates low people are working, you know, one two three jobs to try to make ends meet the average family forty to fifty percent of families in the United States can't withstand a four or five hundred dollar emergency my campaign, and my my behavior is president is going to be to rebuild the middle class in the United States. People are tired of just getting by they're tired of just surviving. They want to thrive. They want their kids to thrive and we've got to stop talking about the minimums. We gotta figure out how we create an economy in healthcare in energy within manufacturing where people can make thirty forty fifty bucks an hour. That's the American dream. We've gotta rebuild it. So yeah. The unemployment's low the stock market is high. But yet the national stress level is probably. High as it's ever been the national anxiety levels about as high as it's ever been you support the green new deal you support Medicare for all. We heard the Senate Republican leader this week Mitch McConnell say they're going to make the election a referendum on socialism. You worry the policies like that will make Democrats vulnerable. No, not at all. And look we need a public option for people to be able to get healthcare in the United States. So we've gotta fix that. And when you talk about the green new deal, I support a green new deal, which means we've got a reverse what's happening with with our climate, and that could mean jobs in places like Youngstown, Ohio in the industrial midwest because there's so much that needs to be manufactured again electric vehicles solar wind where there's eight hundred component parts to a wind turbine that's manufacturing jobs in an agenda that can reverse global warming and climate change and create manufacturing jobs is something I'm going to support and making sure people have access to affordable healthcare is something that I'm going to be four to. But look, I think this healthcare discussion is actually the wrong discussion seventy five percent of healthcare costs today come from chronic diseases that are actually preventable. So we need to completely. Transform our healthcare system where we're incentivizing doctors and patients and healthcare providers to actually keep people healthy, we just don't want healthcare for people when they get sick. Of course, we want that we want to healthcare system that actually keeps people healthy. And that's the transformational approach I'm gonna take. And I would just say if people are supportive of this go to Tim Ryan for America dotcom because we're going to build a new agenda for this country and rebuild the middle class. You got the plug in there. You know, you failed in your bid to take on Pelosi as democratic leader after the two thousand sixteen election initially opposed her bid for speaker as well. Was that a mistake? And what did you learn from it? No. I don't think it was a mistake. Let me let me say Nancy Pelosi is a historic figure. I think she's running circles around Donald Trump right now and not just protecting the interests of the people of the country, but really protecting the integrity of article one of the constitution the house of representatives. She's making sure that that the power remains in in that chamber, which I think is really important and my my pitch two years ago. And again this year was that the Democrats we need a new generation of leadership, we need new people to come in and be leaders in our party, and I will say that we've had a lot of success over the last two years. We now have hockey Jeffries in house leadership. Great young leader Katherine Clark. We've got Sherry boost. Does Ben Ray Luhan? We've got a variety of Dan Kildee, a bunch of new younger leaders who have emerged because we pressured. It was a family discussion. I've got the utmost respect for Nancy Pelosi. And now, we've got new leaders in place too. So we're ready to. Turn the page and move on Carson Ryan, thanks for time this morning. Thanks for having me, Georgia. I think spying on a political campaign is a big deal big deal. So you're not you're not suggesting though that spine occurred. Well. I guess you could I think there's spying did occur. Yes. I think spying. And boy that got some attention this week attorney general William bar testifying before the Senate Judiciary committee is he prepares this redacted version of the mullahs report expected to come this week. Let's talk about it on a round table. Joined by the former governor jersey, Chris Christie, democratic mayor Chicago for at least a couple more weeks. Rahm Emanuel, Republican strategist Alice Stewart, also CNN political commentator democratic strategist Stephanie Brown, James co founded the collective pack which helps recruiting elect progressive African American candidates and our chief White House correspondent Jonathan Karl and gentlemen, begin with you the White House liked what they heard from bar in that exchange right there. But it also appears now he wouldn't comment on it that the White House has been briefed on this overall model report would they know how worried are they George? They have been brief. But I'm told it's in broad brushstrokes, Emmett flood and the White House counsel's office has been briefed on the logistics the timing of the release. They've been briefed enough to know that the White House will not invoke executive privilege that try to get further reductions, but George there is significant concern. By the on the president's team about what will be in this report. And we'll be unredacted. The good news is already out been stuff. That will be unredacted. Yes. Yes. The good news is already out there broad conclusion. No finding of conspiracy between the campaign and the Russians on the hacker on the interfering in the election. But there is significant concerns about what will be in here. New information on the obstruction of Justice question on what the president was doing regarding some of the big questions was he trying to how much how far do you? Go down the line of trying to fire Muller or talk about firing Muller situations surrounding the Komi firing. And what worries them most is what Don Mcgann told the special counsel. It was former White House counsel former White House counsel, Don Mcgann, visibility on all this. It was reported earlier that he spent thirty hours before the special counsel, George. I'm told is significantly more than thirty hours. And here's the astounding thing after all that time before the special counsel, nobody on the president's. Legal team debriefed Mcgann about what he was asked by the special counsel or what he told the special counsel. So the bottom line is they really don't know. What people also don't know Chris Christie is how exactly Muller characterize his his one sentence we've seen he doesn't exonerate the president. What had he intended intend for this to go to congress that he and ten for bar to make this decision on obstruction the power apparently did make my guess is that he didn't care that. He was not going to take a position on that. Because for him to take a position on that is contrary to a prosecutor, Stu, George. I mean in the end, we don't exonerate people when we're prosecutors. We'd have charged him where we don't that's in criminal law that it's different when you're getting the president, isn't it? Well, I don't think so this this was a counterintelligence criminal investigation. And and what Bob Mueller was was a special prosecutor for the Justice department conducting himself as any assistant United States, attorney United States attorney conduct themselves. Remember, he didn't have any special responsibility to congress and the statute and regulations. Doesn't give them a special relationship with the Congress's the last stature did. So this is totally different. He reports the attorney general he sends the report to the attorney general, and then in the end, the attorney general is the one who has to advise congress that he's received a report. So this is very different than what we've been variance in the past. And I think Muller took the position this, and we don't exonerate people. We investigate charges we charge. If we don't we say nothing now this is country. Of course, Jim commes conduct Qods up in two thousand sixteen but it is the norm and what's accepted by prosecuted immigrants do now. But the two things I would say one is the White House is going to rue the day that it was only four page memo because everything's going to be measured now that comes out against that four pages. And that was the high point. Yes that was good day. And everything else is going to be a problem for them. Because everybody basically, drew one conclusion that four pages is not a summary. The thing that Democrats should have done longtime ago was not asked for the whole report every section has a summer. They should've said while you're redacting we want all those summaries out. So they could have kept. Going for the three weeks night just waiting the could actually gotten those summaries. I actually think one thing I would bring up here because about what was just said by the attorney general it wasn't counterintelligence investigation. It was approved by the courts, there was no spying. This was approved by the courts here. No, no, no what he. Well, let me let me having sat through national security briefings having sat through in the situation room. This was a loaded term used for loaded impact. And this is not what that was explained for. This is all approved by the courts by the supreme court and makes that appointment and what they're going to rue the day is a bar. No what I would do is Democrats constantly in this tone has got to be. We're just looking at and see where the facts take us. I think the bigger worry for the White House isn't the Muller report is going to be what's going on in New York. Legal spying, by the way. There's legal spying illegal spy, the attorney, general any opinion on that to urge whether knowing I guess spy, generally has an attorney. Traffic surveillance that the person who's being surveilled doesn't know that they're being surveilled. I mean, what do you call that? It's it's another adjective now if he said, it was illegal spying he would have been out of line. Because isn't that the conclusion to do that yet? But it's all. Democrats are so busy being word police on this or losing sight of the fact as to what the governor said, there's legal and illegal types of spying. And that's the question that that bar wants to get to and others want to get to. And look, we can all agree attorney general bar has a tremendous reputation. He has a tremendous history of his work in the law. He is not going to jeopardize his legacy, by mischaracterizing the Muller report. Surely, I think this four page report might may have been glossed over a little bit. But he is not he is not going to jeopardize his legacy and mischaracterize information that American people want to know, I think he is right to redact the information that needs to be redacted. It's going to be very careful. It will never be enough for the Democrats. But he is doing this the right way taking our time. And I have always said we don't need to prejudge the mole report. And let's wait and see what it comes out. Well, you're right about bars legacy, which is why number of civil rights groups progressive groups that want him in office because he has a legacy of not being fair to a number of. Younis into an in on a number of issues. And so one thing that I am excited about is that this is actually an issue that most Americans can agree on that. We want to see the report Democrats and Republicans say we wanna see the report. Now, I think we're going to get a lot of information that is going to perhaps give us a glimpse into the future. Are there more is more information out there that shows that Russia's still has an influence over the president? I don't know I think we'll find out soon. But I'm just looking forward to that report coming out this. Let's hope that this week. Meantime, there was a lot of focus as we know on the border this week, and Jon you actually address this with the president on this whole family separation policy. Let's take a look. You wouldn't start separating the children again. Would you Mr President? What would you continue? Do you understand? I'm the one that stopped it President Obama had child separation. Now, tell you something once you don't have it. That's why you see many more people coming that coming like it's a picnic because let's go to Disneyland President Obama separated children. They had child separation. I was the one that changed. Why she actually that's not true. But the president John does seem to be getting more and more frustrated by what he's seeing on the board. And you just saw from Sarah Sanders only in the program he is going to look at this idea of sending migrants, a sanctuary cities. Because here's the bottom line, George. They're on track to see one hundred and fifty thousand migrants cross the border illegally in the month of April. That's the number of they're tracking the intention on March the detention, which also wants detention facilities are full on the border. So what is happening right now on the border, president won't say this. But this is. What I am told is happening on the border is the policy. He always derided. It is catch and release. They cannot detain anybody. So they are releasing the people they are catching coming or they're turn themselves in across the border. They are being released. So that's why you see the president going about with so many different ideas floating one day back to child separations closing the border down entirely. And now this idea of shipping the migrants off to sanctuary cities. None of those ideas are going to fly, but they do not have a solution in this right now and they are releasing migrants across legally right now cog, oh sanctuary city. Yep. We're welcoming city have been I took it as executive order pessimism ordinance. I would just say America was always a sanctuary country before Chicago became a sanctuary city. That is exactly what's the bottom of the statue of liberty. You can see it from New Jersey. The fact is. New jersey. It's in New Jersey. Piece on read the base of send us your anytime. We retired. The other thing I'll show you is. The fact is everything that he's ever built has been built by undocumented people and people that staff it including his golf facility in New Jersey and third. Here's what he's really trying to do George. He introduced a budget which had the largest cut in Medicare Medicaid. He's trying to hide that because seniors are as most loyal voters. And he's having a debate about not that there's not a problem at the border. There's a problem, but it's not a problem that measures up to the his problem. He is trying to stop. There's no rating there's no reporting we're not going to bring up a Medicare his budget has the largest cut in Medicare, Medicaid of any presidential budget. And what he's trying to do is make sure the seniors don't know. And if I would the speaker if I was Chuck Schumer, I pull that out of his budget and put it. The key with this. This is his effort to really try and make some impact in inroads on his signature campaign issue, which is immigration and securing the border. He has a dress the floors amendment, which is a big problem with of illegals coming into this country. And and having just a limited amount of time when we can process them he has made it clear he wants to look at catch and release the problems with catch-and-release he wants to look at the ending chain migration. The visa lottery and this proposal of sending them the the the idea of sending them to sanctuary cities, was floated and rejected. It's not going to happen. But here's the question. Why? That's the problem right haven't it's it's can't afford it in this legally not going to pass. White House officials said Thursday night at the president contradicted on Friday. Exactly. But here's my question is why are Democrats who may or with all due respect, you you're the you probably say that you welcome them with open arms, and you and you this policy in two thousand twelve now all of a sudden the. And I said, I would welcome Stephanie go comprehensive immigration reform, which we don't have do you want me member a few months ago, when I don't know the government shutdown over this issue that still has not been resolved. It's like this president has this stall scare tactic. We don't have any real sense of us moving forward to a real solution. This is a schizophrenic process to where this day, this may work in this. This may work, and I look let me say this about the Democrats. I think the Democrats going to be more vocal on what their plan is as well. Americans are getting tired of not having any real movement, especially as we continue to shut down to try to work on this situation. And Chris I wonder if this propose these ideas have the same power political power for the president that they had back in two thousand sixteen now that he's responsible for the board. Well, I think what he's doing. Here is is is to try to show that that he can't do it by himself. And that keeps Wilson's ideas that he could do by himself, which most people think would not be legal. Don't be doable to to show that without congress being willing to step in here and work with into skits. Some solution he can't be held responsible for it. I think that's part of what he's doing here. But second is this is what I'm so glad Rama's going into retirement because because you see what Democrats should be. What's it like, it's? It's really good you. Here's the thing. He's doing whatever craft should be doing which is pivoting off the immigration issue. Rob said we needed to say on it. And then he said now, let's get to Medicare and Medicaid because what he knows is that for Democrats. Traditionally that's a winning issue for them. But. The president from his senior winning issue for you. Right. But here's the thing. The problem is that no other Democrats that are in leadership who are running for president nearly as smart as he is again, my mother that second phone call with your guest. A real smart. The point is that politically that's with them carte should be doing. But instead they're continuing because they hate Trump so much vilified. This. The winner for this is the one hundred fifty thousand Donald Trump is a winner for Donald Trump wants to talk about Trump Democrats want to talk about Trump. Somebody's gonna win. If they start talking about the American people, and that's what we should do. We should say, okay. You wanna talk Medicare for all you wanna put up for. We're going to talk about your eight hundred billion dollar cut Medicare. Now, critics are going to tell you until the campaign powered by Greece and low at a deep faith hitting each other can't be that. But I say, it's the only way we win. Cory Booker in Newark yesterday second launch of his campaign. Mayor Pete is getting an officially today. Stephanie James, we're talking about the twenty twenty constellation of issues right now. One of the things we've actually seen out there from Democrats on the trails. They actually haven't been talking all that much about President Trump. Well, they actually also haven't been talking enough about specific policies that they wanna see move forward as candidates, you know, it's funny a few months ago, we all thought that there was this white guy who was very relatable he had a four letter word name first name, and we all thought it was gonna be Beddoe who was the person that was going to really kind of spur four. And yet we see mayor Pete who has really focused on policies that he can he can tout that people can get behind. How he is the antithesis of Trump be able to have movement in the polls. And I think that's because he's doing a great balance of being both a person who's relatable Austin gifts. Some some suggestions on how he wants to move the country. For he's doing. Well. There's nice article in New York Times this morning that outlines his strategy, which I think is a good strategy for someone with not a lot of money, and they might be at this point is telling his personal story first and then policy later because if you really look at the large field of democrat candidates, they're similar on policy. Green new deal Medicare for all college tuition in these types of issues. So I think Buddha judges doing well. And that he's letting people get to know who he is where he stands on the issues is really taking back seat at this point. Because really the democrat field in my view is very similar and at this point. They are unfortunately, moving so far to the left or going to be broken and broken by the time, they get to the general election. But at this stage, they are very strong on the issues, very similar. But in my view, moving too far danger is moving to for the Democrats of the left giving big Mitch McConnell the referendum and socialism me. Once here's basic lay. The wind is is it the prisoners every policy include. Immigration is trying to drive a wedge between urban suburban voters for Democrats, art strategies, gotta be keep suburban and suburban urban together and drive away between suburban and rural voters. That's basically the paradigm that we're in the immigration issue. Everything that he's bringing up is drive further and further suburban and urban divisions. Ours is bring that metropolitan majority together. And I think that in this case going too far to the left on a number of issues takes suburban majority that actually created the congressional majority and breaks it up. I think it's nuts. Now, I personally think that what I would do here. And I think we should take caution. And I will take my advice to myself is very hard. This is a marathon not a sprint. We're measuring everything every hundred yards floor. We're we're all let's be honest world sick. Okay. Okay. I'm I'm in line bluecross blueshield fake it. Okay. So the fact is there's a marathon every part of President Clinton President Obama's journey, and you can go back is a personal story first. And then you build on it when people get to know you because unlike being legislator, you have to represent somebody's views and chief executive has to have something about their character in that revelation of your background what led you to this point is more important than underestimate that all feel this big. That's a real challenge to get your personal store. Sure. And this is you just have to be relentless about it. I was in a big field like that three years ago. And you just have to your endless about it. You have to the good thing about Iowa New Hampshire. There's lots that aren't as good about it for people that big field. But the good thing is that you can go and sell your personal story we retail way. And I think, you know, in New Hampshire, we certainly did that and went from know three percents nineteen percent by the time. We got to January first with. Doubt a lot of money you can do that. But like rob said, it's we're sitting here in April of two thousand nineteen so no not enough time yet to do that. And by the way, the voters are not nearly as focus. Interesting president because to this Ilhan Omar tweet that he sent out this week. It's clear that the Republicans in the president leading leading the party have a strategy of defining the Democrats by the voices, they consider the most extreme voices. I mean, this is going to be the referendum on socialism. You're going to see that over and over again from the president and. You see Mitch McConnell is going to try to kind of help with what he's doing with the agenda in the Senate, but they will try to portray this as a far left field way out of way out of step and the president's good labeling. I mean, he's he's good at attack. He's good at labeling. And there's there's a lot of material to work. I think if the Democrats will organize in poll everybody together, the president the presidential taints will go out and find themselves the speaker and the Senate minority leader need to define the president. And we have to have a division of labor strategically that is why would do let's let's say it again Medicare cuts that is why would go back to a series of things that he has done domestically on education, lack of transportation Bill and all the other efforts and environmental EPA because that's when the house and Senate should be doing. It's great theory rom, and it work, it would work except that that's not what Pelosi's permitting to happen Alexander or Cossio Cortez and Representative Omar we can't wait leases of the. Democratic Party on the hill. And well, I don't know if that's true. I listen Pelosi scared simply turn on Fox News feed. You're going by the way they discipline. I think he's trying to govern. While also trying to mand over there. I do think is distracting for the Democrats. There's so much that can happen. There's so much that needs to get talked about be as we continue to go back to comments that were made that tweets that were made. And I'm sorry. The president was dead wrong. When he put up image of congresswoman, Omar an image with towers behind that is inside. Violent of fall in and had this full bore response that we saw, and I think the Democrats continued to fall into the trap to where they are not able to both say, yes, this was wrong. But yet we still stay behind our colleague quick enough to where people understand that the Democrats still are a unified front, maybe bad. Zoe back and don't lead Trump's bad. And it's making me stone swing at every pitch every tweet. It's right is a pitch, and I don't ever and what he is doing is throwing little. And the outraged by the Democrats over President Trump's response to that is is really disturbing. They should be more disturbed at what the congresswoman said some something that someone did when three thousand people died in the terror attack. They should be outraged Johnston antisemitic this they should be outraged by her attacking Israel should be outraged of that and come out in fourth and denounce for statements. What she did they continue to allow her to do what she said was definitely something that it can can be seen as downplaying a very serious episode. However, this is a woman who was also currently facing death threats. And look this is a president who also has a problem with taking black women consistently and to use that by inciting violence with these images behind her her face is not is not a good stance for the president. Put look at what the president's managed to do though he's managed to put the Democrats in the position of affectively being seen as defending what she said about nine eleven and congresswoman or Carpio Cortez, then tries to bring George W Bush into it by saying, well, he used similar words to try to make American people who watched it at the time think the George W Bush was somehow downplaying nine eleven George W Bush. I remember the two thousand four campaign. What was it? The Joe Biden said a now n- of verb and nine eleven, but right, so but that's what she's doing. It's Stewart Lert where attended. Sorry. The. Good night over you, guys. Thanks for sharing. Tonight and tomorrow. Are you hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today at indeed dot com slash ABC. That's indeed dot com slash ABC.

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145 - Hunter Biden - A Tale of Two Medias and Disinformation

Republic Keeper - with Brian O'Kelly

51:08 min | 1 year ago

145 - Hunter Biden - A Tale of Two Medias and Disinformation

"Welcome to Republic Hebert podcast. My name is Brian o'kelley. I will be your host for today's in bed broadcasting from the forest in cottage Lake Washington. Just outside of Seattle on my russian-made October MK. 219. Microphone s is as long as number 145 number hit me up on Twitter parlor Facebook not Facebook know. I'm just used to saying that still on the Facebook, but it's going away. So we will treat today like every other day and begin the broadcast by thanking God for good health and the ability to be here sharing with you. Thank you for your time and attention and today is a story of To Media views, I guess for lack of a better way to say it story of two countries almost story of two completely different views of the same story. And I'm think it's actually quite stunning depending on what your sources of information are. You literally have an entirely wage different view of what's happening in the world. I mean, it's just it's absolutely stunning the remarkable difference between how long these things are reported in multiple locations. So, let me take a second here real quick. And I think I should probably go out to the Twitter thing and grab the Periscope link, right and put that up on the on the new e and by the way to me, we if you're not on it yet the new age Is awesome. It's it's not Facebook. It's but it's pretty close. It's going to be Facebook what it grows up some day I guess for better way to say it and get this link here and I want to put this out on the muy so that people can can get it that way copied the link and anyway, good morning. So what I've been observing as I'm going through this are trying to do too many things at once but you can't do this until the link is live, which is weird and I wish I could kind of schedule it beforehand. So I would have to do this during the show one day right? I'll hang of assistant that does this kind of thing for me. So regardless at this point, I was watching the headlines from around the country and not watching the coverage of the hunter Biden story and part of that was the Genesis of that was a friend of mine emailed me one of our actually one of them. All supporters and a good friend but not a guy who's a conservative generally speaking emailed me the USA Today story about this thing and what was going on and I thought well, okay. Let's see, you know, what can I learn from this story and I as I was reading the USA Today story it became clear to me that they were I mean, it was a total misinformation campaign for lack of a better word describe it there's nothing in the USA Today story almost that that long drives with what I am seeing as the the real experience. So let me show you the the USA Today headline and then we'll look at CNN. We're going to look at the call up a couple other jobs and want to give you a sense of just how cooked the books are on this thing. Okay. So here is the USA Today. Front page front page the story a tabloid got a trove of data on Hunter Biden from Rudy Giuliani. Now the FBI is probing a possible disinformation campaign. Okay, Well, that's all right. So the FBI's probing a disinformation campaign because the New York Post which they say is a tabloid and you know, it's a two hundred year old newspaper this quote unquote tabloid that they've got, you know paid here, but realistically that doesn't matter that's a you know, kind of an aside and and more of a complaint off but they're calling it a tabloid and when you read the story, there's nothing in it of the contents or very little in it of the contents of the actual story. It's just all wage how the complaints about Rudy. That's what you see. So then I went over to CNN's website. Well, let's see. What's CNN's website says, right. So I went to the CNN politics. Page and this is the the page on CNN where they you know show their you know, their Politics the politics section of CNN and fox this is yesterday afternoon. This story has been out for a week and we're going to show you why it should be reported here in a minute. But this is this politics section now, I don't see them the story to you. I mean I'm looking and I don't see it. Right so and I didn't see it yesterday, of course. So what did I do? I did what everybody does when they don't see it. They they scroll right? So I strolled and sure if there is there's the the five takeaways from CNN story right there on Mueller and then write down below it just next to it us authorities investigating if recently published reports are Russian disinformation. So that's the headline if you're a CNN reader you barely see the story and when you do its way down here now wage. So what right who cares? Well, when you click through on the story, here's what you get us authorities investigative recently published emails are tied to Russian disinformation effort to argue thought. Okay, well fine fine, you know, so that's that's first of all, it's buried, you know, then it's way down there and then so let's look at if you were a CNN viewer. Okay. What does the information that you're getting look like? Right. Let's just take a look and see what what the information you would be getting would look like if you were a walk-in viewer if you click through and not viewer, but if you click through on the story on their website just in to CNN Federal authorities are now investigating whether recently published emails that purport to detail the business dealings of Joe Biden's son are tied to an ongoing Russian disinformation effort targeting the Biden campaign CNN senior National Security correspondent. Alex Marquardt is joining me now. I mean Alex tell us what's Happening Here off. Well, Brianna, we're being told by two people who have been briefed on what the FBI is doing that they're looking into whether these unverified emails about Hunter Biden that were published by the New York Post about foreign business dealings are part of that bigger Russian disinformation effort, which of course is well underway in these final days of the 2020 presidential election. The intelligence Community has set four months that Russia is very actively engaged in a disinformation campaign against the election in this election in particular against Joe Biden trying to denigrate his campaign as they said in favor of President Trump. So the New York Post said that they got these Hunter Biden emails from Rudy Giuliani and Steve Bannon that they were found on a laptop left in a repair shop in Delaware, which according to giuliani's lawyer reached out to him Bannon according to the newspaper indicated that he also knew about these emails last month now for a long time Rudy Giuliani has been openly working to dig up dirt and promote disinformation on the bidens off. One person he has teamed up with is that Ukrainian politician whose name is Andre Derek Derek has been named by the US intelligence Community as a Russian agent and has even been sanctioned by the treasury Department. Okay. Now, he's right on that Andre. Derkach is a Ukrainian Member of Parliament. Okay, and Andre derkach is a guy who he's my age. He's in his mid-fifties. And so when he grew up like when I grew up there was no Russia. There was a Soviet Union. There was no Ukraine. There was a Soviet Union under derkach grew up in the Soviet Union and when he was a young man at eighteen, you know, nineteen twenty years old like a lot of young man at that age. He went ahead and joined the military and he was a smart guy and he became an intelligence expert and so that's Andre derkach and then when Ukraine gained its independence, he became a month. Parliament and Ukraine now, he may still be connected to Russian intelligence. It's very important to understand that two things can be true at once. She could be connected to Russian intelligence and he could be telling the truth. Just because someone is connected to Russian intelligence doesn't mean he's not telling the truth. Let's say that he was you and I and Raider couch and and another guy were standing outdoors and a big meteor fell from the sky and you know landed in the ground and made a big, you know hole in the ground and they both said my goodness. That was a big rock that fell from the sky would under derkach be wrong just because he was Russian intelligence took that right. So they're trying to dirty up the source instead of argue with the information. They continued on the CNN online store can hear you have Giuliani openly working with a known Russian agent. And now the Washington Post is also reporting that the intelligence Community was so concerned that the Russians were using Giuliani to feed Russian disinformation to President Trump that they warned the White House about it last name Giuliani as you might imagine is denying this listen to what he said on Fox news earlier today. No, one in the Trump Administration warned me. No one in the intelligence Community warned me president didn't say that to me. This is the first time I'm hearing that right and I have a pretty good idea of where it's coming from home. And these are people who are trying to tear down Donald Trump and Destroy his presidency and and the intelligence community of which there are many so people trying to tear down President Trump again that classic deep State argument that we hear from the from the president and his supporters time and time again, Rihanna. And so now you if you went to CNN to learn about the hunter Biden story what you've learned so far and if you went to USA Today and Sienna and what you've learned so far is that it's possible disinformation campaign possibly put forward by the Russians. That's what you would have learned so far. I don't think that that is really the story off handedly. I think there's more to the story. Now you have to you know, Adam Schiff wait in Wolf Blitzer had Adam Schiff on and again, we're going down the the path here of what you would learn about this story. If you weren't watching this show or others like it or listening to this show or others like it. So here is how it would sound if you were walk-in acolyte of CNN and you were watching yesterday afternoon. This is now almost a full week after these emails have been released here is Wolf Blitzer had Adam Schiff home. And roll Thora T's including the FBI are investigating whether recently published emails that purport the deal to detail. I should say the business dealings have Joe Biden's son Hunter who are connected to an ongoing Russian disinformation effort targeting the Biden campaign of the days leading up to the election. Let's discuss with the chairman of the house intelligence committee. Congressman Adam Schiff Congressman wage so much for joining us. Does it surprise you at all this information Rudy Giuliani is pedaling very well could be connected to some sort of Russian government disinformation campaign. Well, we know that this whole smear on Joe Biden comes from the Kremlin that's been clear for well over a year. Now that that the one phone is negative about the most often tennis on and you know, the idea that the president that the White House counsel and others were made aware that Giuliani was being used dog. Russian intelligence and using Russian man. It's just it's just frightening here. Isn't it that Juliana was being used by and using Russian intelligence. And so what that again is a reference to is Andre turcotte right is Andre derkach a guy who can trust. Well, it doesn't matter if Andre derkach is a guy that we can trust what matters is is the information contained in the emails credible and is the information contained in you know, that laptop credible. Can we believe it now one of the things on background here that's important job and actually think I'll hold this till after the break. I'm going to I'm going to take the brake real quick in a minute. Let's look a little bit more though at some of the coverage because I want to get into I want to do the coverage from the way the left first and just give you a sense of what that coverage looks like and then we'll get into what the actual story is so you can hear the truth. So here is how Ms. DNC handle off. Yesterday the 2020 October surprise doesn't appear to be going according to plan for the Republicans. We're now learning that Rudy Giuliani. The president's personal attorney was the target of a Russian intelligence operation The Washington Post was first report that us intelligence agencies warned the White House last year. The Giuliani was being used to feed Russian misinformation president. That's according to 4 or former officials familiar with the matter. The president's reported response to this was to shrug and say that's Rudy for more and joined by NBC's intelligence and National Security correspondent Ken dilanian. I'm also joined by Joyce Vance a former US attorney in Alabama and an MSNBC contributor. All right, Ken. I want to start with you a lot of this stems from some alleged emails involving a computer reported Lee connected to Hunter Biden. What do we know about that? Is there any truth to it? That's right. At least these two stories are actually linked. It really looks like so NBC News reported exclusively last week that Federal investigators are examining whether the stories based on off these emails that were allegedly left on a laptop like the hunter Biden a Delaware repair shop whether that was all the fruits of a foreign intelligence operation. And the reason that's important among many other reasons is that off these this material was given to Rudy Giuliani. That's how the New York Post got this stuff according to the host and they were tipped off by Steve Bannon another former Trump acolyte off. And so the mainstream media is not reporting on this story because we can't authenticate this material and it may very well be a Russian Hack and dump operation disguised as much emails left on a laptop and and the context of course is as you said, we also confirmed that post post and New York Times reporting last week that Rudy Giuliani had been off. Approached by Russian agents and that the CIA and other intelligence agencies confirmed that he was the target of a Russian disinformation operation and they actually warned the White House about this. That's how serious it got home. And so they did they did warn him that Andre derkach had been part of the Russian Security Services prior that doesn't have anything to do with whether or not the information that you shared is an accurate will get into that off for you back. Just Republic keeper. Welcome back to Republic keeper podcast. Thanks again for your time and attention and welcome back. Thanks again. I just got a message that the stream is not so great on YouTube and play about that. I don't I'm not sure how to help depends on the location you're at and the servers and a million other things and that just is one of those things Periscope much better and unfortunately Facebook thing was great, but I refused to give them any more content that just is what it is and you know that just as a little aside here. I just want to make sure that I'm really clear about the My Philosophy on this the content that that Facebook thrives on is the stuff that you post stuff that I post stuff that everybody posts so long if this show is up there, you're on Facebook watching it right now if you're normally used to watch it on Facebook. Well guess what the show is not up there. So you're not on Facebook. So that means that all the people watching right now and all the different song. All that would have been on Facebook aren't and that's true for now and later and on average, you know, each of these programs is watched a couple hundred times minimum over the course of the life of an existing. And so that's a couple hundred hours that I'm denying Facebook per episode every week. So 5 * 1000 hours a week or something and as the audience grows on other platforms may not be growing on Facebook. And so that's the idea here of behind not being on Facebook with it. And I apologize if the quality on some of the other platforms isn't what it could or should be off for what it's worth. I'm in a discussion right now with a another new social media site called about bringing the site to bring the show to them almost on an exclusive basis thought it might be kind of a cool deal. So continuing on now, the guy said there that we couldn't verify the contents of this laptop. And so they they not going to run with it because they don't know. Good, right, so they that's fair. I mean they have a journalistic responsibility to find out well the first thing that we know and this is known is that Hunter Biden's attorney reached out to the shop owner asking to get the hard drive back. Now what are the chances of Hunter Biden's attorney would reach out to the shop owner asking for the return of a hard drive. That wasn't his I'm thinking it would be pretty slim. Okay, I got to say and when Twitter took the story down the New York Post story refused to lock their account. I think it's still locked. They said they won't they won't unlock their countless. They deliver that story when they took it down. What it was under is the Hacked materials policy not the this is an accurate policy. So Fox had em on who's a representative of the Biden campaign Leland vittert had this woman on to talk about this very issue. And here is how that went. We went thank you so much for bringing this up and I really appreciate Gillian pressing Steve the representative from the Trump campaign on the fact that so much of this is unconfirm. So Jenna Jim is home using the parts are not true 800 diagnose what emails he has and hasn't sent are you saying in the campaign saying that these emails aren't his It's unclear to me. I know right right now from the American citizen and the media yourself included latest to continue to ask clarifying questions about this why the FBI is investigating. It's imperative to note that the NSA the Giuliani was being played by these emails. Hi Jenna the easy Jenna the easiest thing in the world to do stop with all the obfuscations easiest thing in the world to do would be to say these aren't Hunter binds emails nobody including Hunter Biden including the cap in his setted. Right. Nobody said it and that would be the easiest thing in the world is just say no man. That's not my computer. That's just you know, I don't know who that where that came from. That's baloney. That would be easy. Right? That would be the simplest thing. No, no problem. Just do that just say now. I'm an that's not mine. I don't know where that came from. That's a bunch of hooey. That's you know, I don't know where you got that. Maybe maybe ought to talk to the Russians you provide you that why wouldn't that be the line? Right? You know, there's an old Sherlock Holmes thing about the dog that didn't bark right and it was something about I don't remember the exact story but something about the thing that happened the middle of the night off and the Sherlock Holmes is and what the dog do in the guy said, well the dog didn't do anything and he said yeah exactly because the dog would always barked right and so the dog that didn't bark becomes the story found the dog that didn't bark is the story in this one because what they what they should be saying is that that you know, this is This these are Hunters that's what they should be saying. These aren't Hunters. I'm sorry. I thought there they should have they should be saying these are not Hunters these don't belong to him. They're not his here's what she says. What's interesting is I feel like I should have an answer the fundamental question, which is in anyone say that these emails are inauthentic and so far. I haven't heard anybody say that yeah, I think that's fair. I don't think anybody would let me let me let me do it. Hold on. Let me do that asked it like this. One of the biggest issues that Democrats have had in in the former vice president had with the track family was the emails that connected Donald Trump jr. To Russians. Okay, there was an entire special counsel investigating that okay. There are now emails connecting Hunter off with both cut outs for the Ukrainian government and Russian intelligence and with the party, So let me just get us the question. So should there be the same treatment? Yep. Be a special counsel because when there was an email from Don Jr. The left one crazy. I think your point about having a special counsel is probably particularly responsible. I think it's a shame that we're spending so much time and taxpayer does it really is a shame? Hold on just shame trying to figure out if the man I'm going to be running for president United States now has to be president ashamed to figure out whether or not there was 10% of a Chinese company put aside for him. That's a waste of time. I'm happy. I'm happy to reach you if you let me finish my sentence, which is I have no problem with asking incredibly diligent hard questions about any sort of news that comes out from any political party wage, whether it's my candidate or any other candidate that's raising their hands in this country. Yeah, so I have no problem with that. I guess. Yeah, the problem promise of the problem isn't the questions Jenna the problem isn't the questions at the answer is wage equal time to see we appreciate it. Thank you promised the questions of the answers, right? And so the the that's their campaign and it's terrible. Okay and doesn't work, right and and so They gotta do the next thing which is they got Jay Johnson out there. Remember Jay Johnson J was the head of Homeland Security for the obama-biden administration. And so Jay Johnson showed up on CNN. And again, this is all part of if you don't watch a program like mine. You wouldn't have seen Jenna first of all, of course. She was on Fox if you watch Fox but down here is Jay Johnson again on c n e i s Warran that Russia is actively trying to sow chaos here in the United States specifically in the upcoming u.s. Election. And now the president has parenting Spears about jobs that authorities think are part of an active Russian misinformation effort involving the president's attorney Rudy Giuliani. I'm joined now by the former Homeland Security secretary under President Obama James Johnson Mister secretary. Thanks so much for joining us in as you know, the FBI's actually looking into where Rudy giuliani's information came from. What does it say to you that a member a key member of the president's Inner Circle? So is apparently pedaling this type of very questionable material and that the president is actually running with it. Well, if my first reaction is it's sad and pathetic girl Giuliani hired me thirty two years ago to be an assistant United States Attorney in Manhattan when he was us attorney on nine-eleven. He was America's mayor. He was a role model for me. When I was Secretary of Homeland Security or as acts of leadership on nine-eleven to see him reduced to peddling political dirt on behalf of Donald Trump that may have come from the Russian government. So rude, he's been reduced to peddling dirt. Another point in their Jay Johnson said that Rudy has become a useful idiot. Wow, that's really complimentary. So let's see is Rudy a useful idiot. Let's find out. Let's find out a fruit. He's a useful idiot. Let's see if we can figure out how in the world did these did these things come to be in Rudy's possession. Let's find out if he can tell us the story and if the story is one thing that holds up and makes any sense. Okay. So let's take a look at this. So the first thing is that Rudy says that he was contacted by the shop owner take a look. I'll tell you what convinces me that this is Faith damaging. All they do is attack the process and attack me and attractive people who found it if they can't attack any of the substantively emails the tax or the photographs which are clearly Hunter Biden no question about it and I'll explain that in a minute. So here's how we found out about it Hunter Biden brought this hard drive in to be repaired. I'm going to say about a year. And a half ago, he left it with a merchant The Merchant of repaired it and then tried to reach Hunter Biden to get get a bag to him. He could never reach him 90 days past 90 days according to the agreement signed by Hunter Biden, which I have a copy of the the hard drive was abandoned became the property of the merchants choice to the merchant started hearing these things on television that the bidens were saying and and and was and was being said about them and he became very nervous and he decided he better take a look. I'll go ahead because it might be criminal in nature. So we opened it up looked at her his words were shocked aren't shot. He said he was shocked when he looked at it because he said the pictures were discussing. They were dirty. They were pornographic and they had evidence clear evidence of any number of crimes right right on the pictures, so I don't know what that means dead. Clear evidence of any number of crimes right on the pictures, but I will say this that you don't want to come off of the broadcast because of some of what has come out of that is verifiable not rumor not speculation not bologna some of what is verifiable or has been verified Rudy continued I said, he went to the texts and emails and even though he didn't know much about the situation it was clear. They were hiding money laundering money involved with the foreign countries. We said they were involved. In fact, he was particularly angry because I was being attacked about Ukraine and it showed the whole Ukrainian transaction. So he he called in the FBI he gave it to the FBI birth control the FBI agent that he was afraid of something might happen to him and the FBI agent told him what size read was very odd statement. So this would be about the time of the impeachment. And he told he told the FBI agent. I'm very worried. I could be in a lot of trouble here. They could hurt me. The buttons are very powerful around here. And the FBI's that was you keep your mouth. Shut nothing will happen to you. So he's saying he's worried that something bad could happen and and the FBI agent tells him if you keep your mouth shut nothing battle happened now. I'm not sure if that's true. This is what the guy told Rudy right and I don't know if we should think that that's take that seriously or not. Rudy said the same repeated that off a conversation with the interviewer from The Daily Caller. Let's see if I got this set up right? I think I do and here it is this Saturday coming out now because she gave it to the FBI. Okay, the FBI took it the FBI agent told the FBI agent. He was afraid he was afraid of consequences. So he didn't this this this man. He didn't give you guys the copy of the hard drive and pass over the the hard drive to the 1st. Okay, and he waited 4 or 5 months. Why do you think he held on to it? We held on before hold on to forge copies of it. He gave two two friends of his in case he was killed and he was he took less people serious. Yeah, the presidency is at stake here and we have some very dangerous people involved sure. So, you know, I've been in law enforcement long enough to know that you don't laugh at that. And I don't think you do laugh with that. I think it's a serious deal and I think I think we're going to see some really interesting stuff coming up here at back home. Welcome back to Republic a podcast and thanks again for your time and attention. And for those of you, who are you sure broadcast the windows works. This is a crowdfunded deal. If you're sick of corporate media sick and people who are telling you what to think stick of a people with an agenda that's driven by their advertising what they're allowed to say are not allowed to say this is the show for you and it only works though. If if you support the show so visit the website at Republic keep calm and support the show. May I ask you a couple of things for me in addition pray for me. It's a lot of work to do this and it's risky a little bit and I need Insight balance wisdom all that kind of stuff and then whatever device you're dead. She was beyond go ahead and subscribe and share the show. That is the thing that does make the things also enough of that now so here we took place where we get people asking Hunter Biden or asking about this laptop. Is it real and the one thing the campaigns not saying is that it's not his and so Rudy home. Of course, you know, we want to find out now is this a is this a trustworthy deal? Right? So really gets this laptop from this guy and what do they do? Well, here's what they did. He Son and one of his investigators over to find out when he saw it. He said look, I'll go talk to him. I'll let him the guy could be a nut or it could be for real. We've had destroyed his attorney Bob Bob who was an experienced trial lawyer former assistant us attorney lawyer for George steinbruner. He went to visit him. He spent several days with him. He invented the whole thing. He authenticated the hard job. About five different ways and made an agreement with the guy he gave us a copy of it. Yep. Okay, so the guys checked it out and you know, it turns out to be actually, you know Hunter Biden laptop and and one of the ways that they found out is that song. They had a subpoena and The subpoena the first of all they were there were two two documents that are important. They've both been released first is Hunter Biden's signature on the paperwork leaving the shop owner saying yes, this is mine. Yes, I'll pick it up. And if I don't pick it up, it becomes your property. That was the first piece of important paperwork. The second piece of important paperwork is a subpoena and The subpoena was issued by the FBI for this laptop Now The subpoena was issued in December. Who knows what was going on in December and January two guys, remember? There was an impeachment trial because remember and the FBI was part of that impeachment trial right there in they're checking out what's going on. Okay, and so as part of that wage in Patron trial, of course, Joe Biden was asked about his son's business dealings, right? Because the whole point was that President Trump called Baltimore's Alinsky over in Ukraine and said, hey, can I check into the bidens? So Joe Biden was asked about this more than one serious focus on the violation of the Constitution. This President is engaged in such doing this because beating like a drum off. Okay, because we released the transcript of the of the call let everybody here it is let the house see it and see what he did. I believe that the core values of this nation are very democracy was a risk-off and events in recent days of may. Even clearer not only me but I think everyone we have a president who believes there is no limit to his power from president of like you can do anything and get away with it for president who believes he's Above the Law pursuing the leader of another Nation to investigate a political opponent to help win. His election is kind of an American president. I know when I decided to run this President were attacked me and anyone else we thought would be a threat to his winning him. Well, that's what he does what he's always done and noted even though every reputable publication is looked at the charge that has been made against me that every revenue on publication without Merit. And so so we could have the thing now we could say well usatoday looked at it and says it's disinformation. I have the New York Times there says it's if it's just information. CNN says, you know Rudy giuliani's a bad guy. MSNBC says Rudy giuliani's a bad guy. So Joe by NADA just get up on stage and say all the networks say that it's not true. That's a bunch of baloney now. Some of this stuff has become politicized of course since Trump. So I grabbed a piece of audio video from way before Trump announced this goes way back. This is in the way back machine way back into 2013 and I think that it's relevant and so here it is 44 year old Hunter by Luke Vice President Joe Biden his youngest son was discharged from the Navy Reserve after testing positive for cocaine Hunter was commissioned in May 2013 and assigned a coveted position as a public affairs officer in Norfolk, Virginia, but us officials confirm the very next month after reporting to his unit. Biden was given a routine drug test which he failed right? And so with this guy gets commissioned now to get commissioned he needed to waivers. The first waiver was an age waiver. He was too old. But he didn't have a job and his old man was hooking them up. So they got that waiver. The second waiver was for past drug use and a lot of people have that, you know, they get busted when they're nineteen or something and and they get that way and that's that's not that big a deal on its own but he got in through the two waivers and then he turns around and and ends up in his commissioning ceremony was at the White House Rose Garden. That's a pretty good deal and Trump's age. You know, this was so man. The media is so cooked. Trump says that the debate your son was dishonorably discharged, right and the next day the fact-checkers come out in the article say no Hunter Biden was not dishonorable discharge President Trump was wrong, but it wasn't a disc dishonorable discharge. It was an administrative discharge also known as being chaptered out and so, you know, it wasn't dishonorable. So why do I bring that up? Well, because I think it it's very much relevant to this current situation against Republican. Well, I mean, I put out a I put out a text messages. Last night that reads as follows, it's from Hunter Biden to his daughter at a moment of frustration toward the end of this whole cycle. He basically says no one in the family respect each me despite the fact that I've been supporting the family for thirty years and pop requires me to kick back half of my income to him. Well really explains the RICO case I've been talking to you about for a year. So years thirty years to Biden family sells Biden's public office. They keep the money with hunter or Jim or Sarah. They take care of all of Joe's expenses and they kick back half to Joe to quite typical Chinese corruption Arrangement, which is outlined in Peter Schweizer. The shinies used it a lot and that's where they probably learned this basically Hunter Biden is a drug-addicted bagman for his father know very well. Well and that you consider slightly old-fashioned corruption cases. Okay. Now why do I bring up the drug addiction? And why does it matter and why is it relevant and I just picking on the guys kid know if that's your resume serious with big companies aren't hiring you for serious big positions of responsibility handling billions of dollars on their behalf. They're just not worth. It just doesn't happen. Big serious companies do big serious background checks even small companies do serious background checks. There's no way in God's green earth that anybody who cared about business primarily hired Hunter Biden to be on the board of their company Hunter Biden had something to sell and the something. I didn't had to sell was not his expertise. It was his father's office. Now Blue Star Strategies is a company owned in part by Joseph Haydn Devin Archer and Christopher Hines. I believe maybe I got that wrong. I think that's Rosemont Seneca Partners either a Blue Star Strategies is a company that was Consulting on behalf of fact, I know that for sure and is involved with that with that company and BlueStar strategies was a company that was subpoenaed by the senate in their investigations. And so when you log, Subpoena from the Senate that says please send us all correspondence related to your supposed to send all correspondence related to and if you don't it's a violation of law here is Ron Johnson with the with the revealing of emails found from Hunter Biden's laptop Senator this morning. You sent a letter to mr. Peter Cadence wage from BlueStar strategies. Tell me what you've sent this letter why you've sent him this letter and what specifically you're looking for. I'll try and keep this simple. But BlueStar strategy is a Democrat Democrat lab web lobbying firm that represented Barista, and you know in the United States, you know, trying to get the United States to look favorably on this very corrupt oil company and it's correct owner. And so what we subpoenaed them for all their records having to do with policemen and their their actions with federal government. We reached out to them after we heard about these and ask them did you age To comply and then on October 15th, we saw an email that should have been responsive to our our subpoena that we do not receive in this email describes a December 2nd 2015 a conference call hosted by the White House to discuss Vice President Biden's upcoming trip to Ukraine out what's important about that. That would have been the trip. We believe or Vice President Biden made basically walk down the ultimatum either fire shokan or you're not going to get a billion dollar loan guarantee. And so this should have been responsive. We should have gotten this and we're trying to do then verify page. Is that a valid email that correct? You should have gotten it. But right now we're just trying to validate is that a true and genuine email that came out of off of 100 buttons computer because then it helps validates back wage is in fact a hundred bands computer or data downloaded from a hundred items computer. Right. And so the question is, you know, did you guys comply with the subpoena? Is this a genuine email? And if it is why didn't you supply it to us? And if it is, why was there a conference called the White House with Joe Biden immediately before he took a trip to Ukraine to fire the prosecutor with the company. That is the Consulting and lobbying firm for Purisima Wildlife. That that's a pretty good question. Right? Ron Johnson has a couple of other good questions not the least of which is when we're trying to impeach the president the United States and the FBI is involved in the investigation and the FBI had this laptop in their possession. Why did they said seems like he got this sooner than December 2019 and and tried to turn it over the FBI. I think initially they weren't particularly interested yet off. But at some point in time, they became interested in it and actually issued a grand jury subpoena, which they served on him in December and that's when the FBI would have taken custody of this computer that's reported dead. Hunter Bryant now, I think it's pretty odd that quite honestly the dividing campaign. All they've really done to refute or Diane is to say that the meeting the one of these emails revealed that by Said by and had with the number three in control of Purisima never showed up on his official calendar. There's all kinds of meetings that didn't show up in his official calendar. This one surprised me. This one didn't about the first thing we did we got contacted by The Whistleblower the day after we issued our report on on Ukraine was we contact the FBI. I might determine a meeting office stories. I wasn't sure, you know, can you verify any of this and they're going to a couple of days to basically give us no information. So I just sent another letter yesterday because the FBI has a duty to inform us if if they believed this is maybe you know, Russia. Thanks for Mason. They should give us defense briefing. They should tell us about that. Yes, for example, they also believe that when information just whistle blower gave us is fraudulent. That would also be a frying and the FBI should tell us that long So we're trying to suss out of the FBI. What do they know? And when do they know it? But the larger question really is if they had this information and these are genuine emails and it would probably reveal all kinds of things would have been very relevant to the impeachment case. Why did they sit on it? The guy's point is right on the money. If this guy if the guy who turned over the the hard drive if that was fake and criminal if that was fake. It is Criminal if they're faking and information off turning it over to the government in an attempt to smear someone I'm pretty sure that's illegal. I don't know but he says it is it would be a problem for certain. I would want the FBI at least inform the Senate intelligence committee. Hey guys are the homeland security committee. Hey guys. This was fake the FBI's done. Nothing nothing and they did nothing in the middle of the impeachment hearings off when they had it now in terms of the verification. Imma let you know two more one thing that I don't have audio 4Runner time here come up to the top of the hour. This is very important. Hunter Biden has had a business partner and his business partner in a company called Rosemont Seneca 1000 earners in that company. They worked on an Indian. I shouldn't say Indian a tribal gaming scheme. I think Ron Johnson mentions it here a tribal gaming scheming. His name is Bevan Cooney and he went to prison and he still in prison and he has turned over his Gmail account to the investigators now and has confirmed that the things in there where it says stock being held for the big guy wage. But that is Joe Biden. Here's more Ron Johnson. Now, there's one email that Fox News has been able to verify in that email. It indicates that we're going to hold off some money or something aside 10% for the big guy. Who is the big guy here. Y'all people of course are assuming that is a Vice President Biden and of course, there's a compact A different computer now with different emails this computer from one of the Devon archers co-conspirators in this Indian or this tribal Bond fraud. This man went together with archer Devon was convicted. He's sitting in jail Archer Devon oddly enough his pin his jury conviction is overturned by a judge who just happens to be married to one of the members of the Mueller special counsel team. That was the lead lead prosecutor in the palm and was convicted. There's some amazing connections here over but again what we're trying to warm or validation that these emails are true. You got some one of the recipients on that email chain has has told Fox News that yeah, that's that's what true email about these these other emails that break breaking from Kelvin kuni's is the co-conspirator the man who's in jail right now. It's totally separate email server. Totally separate emails that also are starting to paint a picture of the Carruthers. And the vast web of Connections in that the hunter Biden, his firms have an Archer were involved in this requires serious investigation in the fact that the mainstream media is suppressing this information from the American public is a scandal in and of itself. And I think that's right. I played for you this CNN and MSNBC coverage of this. Is there anything about the contents of this email and so on on there? I didn't see any of it. Here's a little more. Ron Johnson took their National Security member everybody just find the investigation the false allegations against the Trump campaign was can you imagine the national security threat the threat of blackmail against a sitting president? Remember this connections are true. Well take whatever was alleged that was proven false against President Trump and multiply that by orders of magnitude of just what we've scratched the surface in terms of them covering of this vast web of connections with Chinese Nationals ties to the China the Chinese Communist Party The People's Liberation Army, you know, I said that our report and took Ray's far more questions than it answered. This requires detail investigations on the part of the justice department on the part of the FBI on the part of the media and that's not occurring. So why is this Being covered up. Why is this not being talked about this is a major news story because if you have all this these vast webs all these connections. This could be used as blackmail against a potential buyer residency far in excess of anything that was Right, and we've got the the you know, major Party candidate for the Democratic party who is now apparently alleged to be in a financial relationship with the Chinese Communists. And as though that's not bad enough. This is the crew de coup de gras of the whole thing and I could arouse the wrong word. Maybe this is the This is the the linchpin I guess this is the thing that if if true this is the end of it if this if this part of this is true, this is the end of it and the allegation is that there is a child porn on Hunter's laptop. And I know that's a that's a wild allegation and I never ever want to accuse somebody wage of that without some wrong, you know strong basis. Now, there's a a Chinese website that has claimed now, and of course, that's why I'm not going to play it off as a Chinese Source the claims that they've translated some of the contents from Mandarin Chinese on there and that it appears that Hunter Biden is involved with children, so I'm not going to cause that's the claim. I'm not putting any stock in it. Okay, but there is something that is concerning and I it's here we go. Let's just play this and you decide dead. What you think this means we understand here on Sunday morning Futures. There is more to come and there is a further analysis of the subpoenas handwriting and it suggests that the subpoena was served by an FBI agent who was name is Joshua Wilson and over the last five years. He has been working on child pronography issues connect the dots if an FBI agent is working on child pronography issues for five years. Why is he subpoenaing the laptop of Hunter Biden? Is there a connection here? Should this suggests that there is a child pornography issue here on that laptop. Well, I think you just made the connection. Well, I think you just made the connection. And so there are multiple people who are making this claim and it appears that this Joshua Wilson has no other job at the FBI. This is what he does. He investigates this kind of crime specifically and prosecutes it that's what he does and so his being the guy who subpoenaed the computer we'd have to ask if he suddenly had a change of job classification to working on financial or International corruption type of things, so that is a leave you with that and we'll see What Becomes of the rest of this as time goes on, but the media is certainly dishonest and not doing their job. And anyway, thanks for your time and attention. Please visit the website support the show. I'm grateful for those of you who do and could use more of it, please. Thank you crowdfunding is means we need to crowd. Thanks.

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Grace Quackenbos Humiston, aka Mrs. Sherlock Holmes

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Today's topic is somebody that listeners have been asking us to have her since two thousand seventeen and that's when the first book about this person came out but she really caught my attention about a year after that when she was depicted on the tv show timeless which is a show. I loved a whole lot. I know a lot of our listeners. Also i heard about her again on the podcast criminal in two thousand nineteen and we got listener. Mail asking for her. After both the timeless appearance and criminal and then our colleague christopher hussy otas who clearly has a knack for episode pitches. Because we've this is the second one we've done recently that something. He sent us a note about he sent to about her earlier this month and i was finally like okay. Universe i have received your message. We will do a podcast. On grace hunterston grace hamilton also known as mary grace quackenbush depending on what period of her life we are talking about was an attorney and an investigator did a whole lot of work to exonerate people who were wrongfully convicted to expose corruption and in one particularly dramatic case to solve a murder that the police had written off as the victim. Having just run away that last one earned her the nickname. Mrs sherlock holmes and in her words though she said quote no i never read sherlock holmes in fact. I'm not a believer in deduction commonsense and persistence will always solve a mystery. Never need the africa's nor dr watson's if you stick to a case so all that sounds pretty cool at the same time though. Some of her work was part of a moral panic over what people were calling white slavery in the early twentieth century. And this really hinged on idea that white women and girls are being trafficked into sex work and just staggering numbers. She made some unfounded allegations during all this and the latter part of your career in it really tarnished reputation and also just a heads up there are mentions and discussions of various sex crimes in this episode because that was one of the things that she was investigating so grayson was born mary-grace winterton in new york city on september seventeenth. Eighteen sixty nine. Some accounts describe her father. Adana ram judson winterton as a merchant and a lay minister in the baptist church. He also worked as an insurance adjuster and later in life grace talked about accompanying him to court when she was still a child. Grace attended hunter college and after she graduated in eighteen eighty eight. She spent some time teaching on june fifth eighteen ninety five when she was twenty five. She married a doctor named henry forest. Quacking boss some accounts of her life that have been written in the past few years claimed that they got divorced almost immediately because grace found out that henry was using peep holes to watch his patients while they were undressing however the source for this allegation seems to be a nineteen twenty one gossip column in the new york magazine. Tatler here's cover for that issue included the tag movies mirth merriment and misinformation not only does the tatler offer no source for this but it also claims that it was henry who said that grace's quote addiction to people practices in his office had been annoying and embarrassing to him in the practice of his profession. This is also in the context of a piece that is extremely disparaging of histon and her purported inability to keep her husband's happy because she was too focused on work. There's a lot of layers to that whole lot going on so it really the none of that should be taken as fact yeah on top of all that other stuff that came out in nineteen twenty one and that was many many years after they had gotten married and divorced. So what question marks about the tatler and it's gossip columns and it's made its way current discussions of her in the early nineteen. Hundreds grace started taking night classes at new york university law school. I this was mostly about learning how to protect herself and her investments but she really excelled at her studies and with the help and encouragement of the law school's dean she moved into the day program so the regular law school class. She completed that in two years rather than three she graduated with a bachelor of laws in nineteen zero three and she ranked seventh in her class. That same year. Grace's mother isabella died and her father died in nineteen. Oh four from that point grace dressed only in black except when she needed some other outfit to blend in during an investigation working under the name mary-grace quack and boss. She started working for the legal aid society and then she started her own firm which was called people's law firm. She focused on hiring and training other women to work with her and her clients were mostly poor people and immigrants since she already had the independent income. She didn't really have to charge very much described as saint regis law at mills hotel prices. Her clients basically paid her what they could and that could be anything from the typical fee for legal work to some baked goods or some handmade clothing or essentially nothing There's part of me that enjoys this will work for fresh bread idea as often possible. Grace tried to resolve her clients. Needs out of court today. Their laws in the us requiring competent courtroom interpreters for deaf people and for people with limited english proficiency that was not the case in the early twentieth century. Though out of court settlements were generally easier for clients who did not speak much english as well as being faster and less expensive a lot of the cases that she took on her law firm involved things like wage theft child support and predatory landlords and business owners who were taking advantage of her clients. See also did a lot of work to just help immigrants navigate. The us legal system grace became known by a number of nicknames including sister mother and porsche of the east side and people started coming to her for help with bigger and bigger issues. In one case an insurance company had gone out of business without paying roughly a million dollars in life insurance claims to multiple widows grace pursued this case for more than a year until a judge took steps to hold the company's former directors accountable at one point. She also got another attorney disbarred for charging clients far more than the ten dollar maximum fee for filing deportation appeal. She also got their money back for the excessive fees that they'd paid. He was charging people like one hundred fifty dollars a pop for something that was legally capped at ten dollars. Just praying on desperation. Yeah so as her. Reputation spread students from wellesley. Wrote to quicken boss asking her to defend win tola who had shot and killed her landlord on march fourth of nineteen o. Four tola had been convicted of the crime and had been sentenced to death by hanging but the young women from wellesley were convinced that she had been acting in self-defence even though quack nba never argued a murder case before she took on this work pro bono because she said she would quote prefer to take the case without renumeration as woman for woman. In this case antoinette tola had a lot working against her she had emigrated from italy. She mostly spoke italian. Her landlord was joseph. Santa who was one of the most prominent citizens of king's lynn new jersey. He had been found murdered in the home that tola shared with her husband. Giovanni and the witnesses at her murder trial had included scientists six-year-old son on the stand. He had testified that tola had sneaked up behind his father and shot him in. The back of the head is obviously very compelling testimony to the jury told his previous lawyers had already tried to get her a new case based on evidence that santa had been armed when she shot him but the judge had claimed that no such weapons seemed to have been found. Quackenbush went to see the evidence that had been collected from the crime scene and she found yes. Santa's gun was right there. She reviewed the autopsy report which showed that santa had not been shot in the back of the head like his son had said on the stand she also discovered that toll. His court testimony had been translated by students. That student had gotten a lot of basic facts wrong in toll as account of what happened santa had been pressuring her for sex and physically assaulting her for at least five months. She had tried to get her husband to defend her but he would often just leave the house. When santa came in she had gone to santus wife who had told her to get a gun and that she could scare him with it earlier on the day of the murder saute had come into her. Home accosted her and threatened to kill her. She had gotten away but when she came back he was still there. When he grabbed her again she struggled to get away and then she shot him over a period of several months. Grace manage to get the execution postponed several times but she ran into one roadblock after another when trying to get the verdict overturned or to secure a pardon or to get the. Us supreme court involves. After multiple stays of execution antoinette. Tolo was scheduled to hang on march twelfth. Nineteen o five just three days before that mary-grace and boss finally managed to convince the board of pardons with all this evidence. She had gathered to commute his sentence to seven and a half years in prison. This was the first case that really brought mary-grace quackenbush boss to prominence. 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The magazine paid her expenses for a seven week trip that she took to investigate. What was happening. What she found was a widespread system of debt peon. 'age men were being recruited to work in industries including mines railroads and lumber but especially in turpentine processing employers charged money for everything from workers passage south to housing and equipment. Once they got there so soon people were trapped in a debt to their employers that they just could not pay off. This practice had been outlawed in eighteen sixty seven but it was still rampant and many of it's victims were immigrants and black people dan. This is one of the highly exploitative systems of labor that evolved after slavery was abolished in october of nineteen six quack. A boss took all the evidence that she had gathered to attorney. General william henry moody who appointed her special assistant united states attorney for the southern district of new york to continue with this investigation. He dispatched assistant attorney. General charles w russell to the area as well and together. They started building cases to shut down businesses that were running these pianist schemes and to indict the people that were running them at one point. Grace needed to deal with employment agency. That was run by hungarians since she didn't speak the language. The department of justice assigned a hungarian agent named julius j krone to work with her and she and krone worked together for years after this investigation was over in nineteen ninety seven. The italian ambassador to the united states asked quack and boss to investigate. What looked like a similar scheme at sunnyside plantation in mississippi. The ambassador had gotten some really alarming letters from italians who were working there. He wanted grace to look into it. Before the civil war sunnyside had been a slave labor camp after the thirteenth amendment to the constitution outlawed slavery except in punishment for a crime. Sunnyside's owners had replaced. Its workforce of enslaved africans with incarcerated men from a prison in alabama and then started working with agents in italy to recruit immigrant workers. These agents would loan workers the money for their passage across the atlantic so they arrived from italy already in debt and then from there they were made to live and really squalid housing. The cost of that housing was deducted from their pay. Workers were also charged for the mules that they needed to work the land and for jenning and bailing the cotton that they grew and harvested basically everything. They needed to do their jobs into just survive. They were also paid at least partly in script. That could only be used at the company store. The workers debts were paid off. They were allowed to sell part of their cotton crop for their own profit but the vast majority simply could not pay off their debts. Grace also interviewed people who had escaped the plantation and then been forced to return at gunpoint grace's investigation pitted her against some of the wealthiest and most powerful people in the area these included. Ob crittenden roy percy and morris rosenstock together they hit established the ob crittenden company to lease several cotton farms in the area including sunnyside. They were operating. All of these farms among other things percy was friends with us president teddy. Roosevelt grace had gone undercover for her investigations in florida but that practice backfired in mississippi when one of the italian speaking investigators on her team was arrested for trespassing and jailed so she went to the acting governor zenith on pendle who wrote to the crittenden company asking for her to be allowed onto the property. All the partners agreed. They tried to prevent her from ever. Speaking to the workers without someone from the company present quackenbush tried and succeeded to negotiate better contracts with more protections for the workers that sunnyside while also building a case for federal prosecution and the more work she did that was related to the federal charges. The more resistance and harassment. She faced from the partners of this company soon. Local newspapers were calling her a socialist agitator and the crittenden partners. We're trying to undermine and threaten her. At one point. Someone broke into her room and they stole all of her notes and evidence but then one of percy's cronies return them to her claiming they had been confiscated from a known felon. This was both it was terrifying. Somebody had come into a room and stolen oliver stuff and then also she had just written a letter summarising oliver findings but she was like my whole investigation is lost. If i don't actually have that evidence to back it all up Yeah that. I'm only laughing at the confiscation claim. It's like my dog. You're tried to eat your homework. And then i saved it from him. Saved it from the dog's mouth. Yeah exactly it is although quackenbush boss managed to get. Ob crittenden arrested. During all of this percy went to the president to get him to intervene. Percy essentially argued that he wouldn't get in the way of the charges against his partner as long as quicken boss was recalled to washington which she was percy. Did not keep up his into the bargain. Though and successfully prevented crittenden from being indicted percy was elected to the us senate in nineteen. Ten grace's work in both florida and mississippi deeply unpopular among landowners officials. Basically any other wealthy people in the area over the course of these investigations. She was undermined threatened vilified as a hysterical woman and even shot at and although she unearthed clear evidence of wrongdoing. What happened with that. Evidence was largely out of her hands. A major pianist case that followed her investigation in florida ended with an acquittal and laws against pianist continued to just be ignored for decades after she left the south however it does appear that her work led to a big reduction in cases of debt involving immigrants to the us other people were still being victimized but the trafficking of immigrants seems to have dropped for this purpose after this and after her investigation sunnyside quack and boss went abroad for a year to investigate the european end of this whole scheme. She testified during congressional hearings on in nineteen ten that same year. She also wrote to the house of governors also known as the governor's conference about overcrowding in the spread of tuberculosis particularly in new york city. And how it might be alleviated if more immigrants to the us were resettled into more rural areas. She noted that many people who arrived in the united states from europe were farmers or farm laborers but then wound up living in cities that already had established immigrant populations from those same regions. She argued that establishing immigrant communities in more rural areas would help everyone involved. This is a counterpoint. To people who are trying to curtail the rate of immigration overall she was merlin. No emigrants bring a lot to this country. Maybe should not be just densely packed into cities where people are having trouble finding work on june eighth nineteen eleven mary-grace crack boss married howard. Donald commisson who was also a lawyer. We know basically nothing about their marriage. Greece hamas ston oppose the death penalty and she worked to overturn the death sentences of people who had been wrongfully convicted or had been sentenced to death in spite of mitigating factors in the crime in one thousand nine hundred sixteen while it sing prison investigating another case. Deputy warden spencer miller junior suggested that she look into the conviction of charles. Frederick stilo steel. Oh and his brother-in-law nelson green had both confessed to murdering charles beef phelps and his housekeeper margaret wall cut phelps had been killed in his home which was across the street from steelers house and walcott had been found dead on steelers doorstep steel. Oh and green had been tried separately and after stilo was convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to death. Greene struck a plea deal. He pleaded guilty to second degree murder and was sentenced to life in prison. The two men's confessions were the only thing linking them to the murder but how must in found that those confessions had been coerced. Steelers wife had just had a baby and an agency. Detective had told him that he would be able to see them if he said that green had done in then. The detective told green that stilo had implicated him. Hamilton also found forensic evidence that a gun that stilo owned could not have been the murder weapon after speaking the st low and reading his signed confession holliston also concluded he just could not have written it himself. The confession was written with a much larger vocabulary than he actually used in conversation. Multiple other investigators and activists were part of this effort to try to get them a new trial or clear their names. But as had happened in the antoinette totally case they just ran into obstacle after obstacle every time they gotta stay of execution. Stevo was once again sentenced to death afterward and this happened seven times but included after another man named erwin king said that he and clarence o'connell had killed phelps in a robbery attempt. One of these last minute stays happened. After grace's team took evidence to a judge about four in the morning when the execution was just over an hour away there was a nineteen eighteen. Right up of all this in good housekeeping detailing this whole very dramatic effort to exonerate stilo and it was titled where there are women. There is a way and they will take it. One of the activists involved in this effort was labor lawyer and selfridge's anez milholland who died after collapsing on a speaking tour in nineteen sixteen journalists sophie. Irene loeb who was both working on and covering the case told new york governor charles seymour. Whitman that milholland. Holland's last wish had been for him to hear steelers. Appeal for clemency. Whitman finally commuted st low sentence in november of nineteen sixteen four days after mill hololens death and he pardoned both steel and green on may eighth nineteen eighteen. It does not appear that king and o'connell wherever tried for this king repeatedly repudiated his confession only to then give a different contradictory confession later. On at one point a grand jury refused to indict the two of them because steel in green were already imprisoned for the murder by the time stilo in green were exonerated and released. Okada was incarcerated for another crime and king had disappeared. We've got more including grayson's most famous case after a sponsor break hang. It's nicole been new york times. Bestselling author the financial expert. You don't need a dictionary to understand and the host of the daily podcast money rehab. So here's the deal. 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One of those errands was getting her ice skates sharpened at a motorcycle shop. That was owned by alfredo cocchi. When she did not come home her sister went looking for her. When ruth sister talked to coachee his behavior was just unnerving and strange to her. She told the police about her suspicions. When the family reported that ruth was missing. Police questioned coachee. Who said that. Ruth had dropped off her skates to be sharpened and then pick them up later and left. Police searched the shop and found nothing then a few days after roost. Disappearance alfredo's wife. Maria reported her husband missing. Ruth's disappearance attracted a ton of media. Attention she was a pretty white teenager described by her family as a good student and a good girl who taught sunday school. They asked for help in finding her and they offered a reward. Investigators were just flooded with hundreds of tips none of which panned out but police focused on one in particular that was a cabdriver who reported that he had taken ruth and a much older man as passengers together on the day that she disappeared. Police also talked to a couple of college students who had gone out on dates with based on all of this a little over two weeks after ruth disappeared. Police concluded that she had run away or eloped with a boyfriend and they closed the case but her family insisted this was impossible and they hired grace homicide in alliston immediately focused on alfredo cocchi. In addition to what ruth sister had described he had inexplicably closed his shop for several hours. On the day of wreaths disappearance hammerstein got julius. Krohn to go undercover. As a repairman coaches shop needed a repairman since alfresco himself had gone missing. He didn't know how to repair bikes and motorcycles. So he sort of made. It seem like he was always about a day behind so he could research to fix problems at night and then come back to the shop the next day and take care of the actual repair. I love him for this. I love him for this. I love his fake it till you make it approach to it and that he really intended to fix bikes while he was also trying to do undercover work to find evidence of ruth krueger. Yeah like people need their bikes fixed. Maria coachee became suspicious of krone and she fired him after he spent too long in the basement one day so then they had to find another way to look for evidence they eventually discovered a coal chute adjacent to the building and they got permission to excavate under the sidewalk although they eventually found a corset. Cover some newspapers from just. After ruth disappeared and bones. The corset cover was not. Ruth's and the bones were not human bones. Meanwhile alfredo cocchi was found in bologna. Italy on may thirty first nineteen seventeen. He claimed that he had gone to italy because he was sick of his wife and he said that he had learned about roots disappearance only after arriving in the country allegations surface that coachie had been luring girls and young women into his shop for trysts with himself or his customers. The girls families hadn't gone to the police because they were afraid of scandal. A woman known as swallow larue who gave a series of increasingly fantastic statements during all of this claimed that too man attacked her after giving homicide information about the case Consuegra larue was like a very public presence in all of this. She made a lot of statements about the case. Some of them appear to have come from a novel. A lawyer who is representing maria kotei filed a whole series of complaints about the digging around the coal sheet and how much dirt was being brought up to the sidewalk but then someone convinced maria to sell the building she had already been planning to sell the bike business after her husband disappeared. That someone was one of grace hammerstein's assistance and when the building was listed for sale hulme. Ston bought it so her team could search however they wanted on june eighth nineteen seventeen grace. Hamilton's crew found ruth kruger's body. It was in a pit concealed under a work bench in the basement of alfred cocchi shop. She had a fractured skull. And a stab wounds in the abdomen and her blood-stained ice skates were found nearby later. Homestead of all this quote. I've noticed that some folks are saying. I found the body because i followed my intuition every time a woman does make a discovery. Someone pipes up intuition. Let me say that. In this instance it was just plain everyday common sense by krone and myself backed by a determination to keep going until the case had cleared up. This discovery sparked an enormous scandal for the new york city police department. The mayor personally apologize to the krueger family for how the investigation had been handled since police said. They had searched the shops basement. Two different times an investigation was launched to figure out how they had missed that her body was hidden there. Investigators also started digging up basements in other locations around the city where other young women had been reported missing these internal investigations that followed at the nypd unearthed a lot of wrongdoing within the police force. It turned out that coachee and several motorcycle officers. Had been running a kickback scheme. An officer would write somebody a and then a third party would tell that person that if they visited coaches shop he could make their ticket go away. Once that person got to the shop they would either pay him cash or they would buy some extremely overpriced merchandise coachee and the officer would split that money and the officer would erase the record of the ticket. One officer had also given coachee assigned card. That said please take care of alfredo cocchi. He's okay could present that card if he was ever pulled over or stopped by the police. Multiple officers face charges for their part in this scheme and one of the detectives that had been assigned to the case. John larum was convicted of dereliction of duty and find the other detective. Frank mcgee face the same charge but he was acquitted charges that were filed against the head of the new york. Police departments detective branch were ultimately dropped reforms that followed included the establishment of a dedicated bureau of missing persons at the nypd. Alfredo cocchi was still in italy and although he confessed to the murder his confession was pretty muddled. He kept changing his story. Italian authorities determined that he was still considered. An italian. citizen was illegal to extradite italian citizens to other countries so they refused to extradite him to the united states but they did put him on trial for attempted rape murder and giving false information while trying to enter the country hammerstein provided italian authorities with everything that she had on the case. Coaches trial began on june twenty third nineteen nineteen and. He changed his story again saying his wife had committed the murder in a jealous rage as the proceedings were underway authorities in italy received a letter from jj lynch that claimed ruth had been targeted by sex traffickers and that coach was part of a vast international white slaving network lynch really had no evidence to substantiate any of this but his daughter had been killed and he believed that sex traffickers had done it and that ruth had been the victim of the same people. Coaches trial had to be adjourned. So that italian authorities could investigate lynch's claims proceedings resumed on october twenty fifth of nineteen twenty. And he was found guilty on october. Twenty ninth. he was sentenced to twenty seven years in prison and after going on hunger strike was sentenced to ten years of solitary confinement. He was released from prison in nineteen forty seven. How misdoings next high profile investigations started a couple of months. After ruth kruger's body was found. Lottie may brandon was found dead in her home in annapolis maryland on august. Eighth nineteen seventeen. Brandon was white and witnesses said that they saw john snowden a black man. Come out of the brandon home. A reverend who lived next door said no one had come out of the house but if snowden was there he had a reason to be he worked delivering ice and there was a block of ice melting on the front step when the police arrived the washington times hired hunterston to investigate this crime and to write about it and based on the crime scene and what looked like small finger marks. In pictures of brandon's body has done thought she had been killed by someone. She knew possibly another woman. She recommended exhuming the body to look for more evidence. Go while the doctor who examined the exhumed body was not able to make any determination about the possible finger marks. He found what he said was black. Skim under lobbies fingernails. John snowden had reportedly had scratches on his face. When police questioned him he had also bought a drink at a bar with the dollar and lottie. May's husband said he'd left her a dollar when he went to work that day. Police tortured john snowden while questioning him but he steadfastly maintained his innocence and in the end he was tried and convicted of murder but hammerstein was really not convinced that he was guilty and she felt responsible for having suggested the exclamation. She tried unsuccessfully to secure an appeal. People really started to question whether snowden was guilty or not and as his execution date approached all the jurors that had voted to convict him signed a petition asking for his release even so he was hanged on february twenty th of nineteen nineteen and he was posthumously pardoned in two thousand one grace homicides last high profile investigation wound up a really damaging her reputation and her career her work on the roof krueger case and the public response to it had been threaded through with the idea of white slavery and after ruth body was found that is what hamas and really focused on a sofa context in the years after the abolition of slavery and the us and in the british colonies the term white slavery was used in the context of labor rights to describe low paying jobs with poor or dangerous working conditions jobs that were being worked by people who really had no other options but over time the term picked up connotations of women who were forced into sex work there were absolutely women and girls who were victims of sex trafficking but the specter of white slavery went way beyond that in the minds of progressive era reformers. All sex workers were victims needed to be rescued. Campaigns against white slavery were connected to general anti-vice activity and the breaking up of red light districts that had previously been legal or at least tolerated. All of this was really focused specifically on the purity and safety of white women with sex traffickers often being framed as immigrant jewish or black men who were forcing or deceiving white women into a life of crime. This whole idea was threaded through of course with racism classism native ism and a focus on white racial purity. This idea of white slavery was the subject of sensational novels and movies including traffic in souls which came out in one thousand nine hundred thirteen anti-trafficking and anti-sex work laws were passed in both the us and the uk and the united states. It was the white slave traffic act. Also known as the man act which was passed in nineteen ten a series of international treaties were also negotiated starting in one thousand nine hundred four. Although to be clear international trafficking of laborers and sex workers was far more prevalent than the trafficking of white women within the united states which was just the big focus of this whole moral panic in the wake of her work on the ruth. Krueger case hamasstan established the morality league of america. The new york police department hired her as a special investigator. They hired krona's well and krone in hamilton focused on missing women and girls. The grace homicide league was established with the goal of raising a million dollars for quote endowing and nationwide organization for the protection of womanhood during her work in all of this hamasstan alleged that there was a vast sex trafficking operation at work involving soldiers at camp upton which had been built on long island as a departure point for us troops headed to europe during world war one. She claimed that there were six hundred unmarried. Pregnant women living in and around the camp she also said that seven had been killed including two underage girls and while it's likely or even certain that crimes were committed in and around the base. She really had nothing to back up such abroad accusation. The us army vehemently denied it and an inquiry ruled the allegations of a huge white slavery. Ring were unfounded. Rumors of two girls being killed actually dated back to while the camp was still being built before soldiers started arriving and there was also no evidence of any bodies being found. Hamilton was simultaneously extremely vocal. About all this and hard to find when reporters authorities tried to reach her with questions about it. She claimed that the army had hired her to investigate this sex trafficking network in secret which the army denied as she continued to make allegations without backing them up. The nypd stripped both her and krone of their badges. The grace huntington league cut ties with her. The mayor of new york city had appointed a committee to work with her on her anti white slavery campaign. The committee went to the new york bar association to try to have her compelled to turn over whatever evidence she did. Have the bar refused. And the committee members all resigned at the end of nineteen seventeen. Hamilton told reporters that she had already been planning to resign from her work with the city of new york because of the upcoming change in may oral administrations. Those didn't look genuine people who were like. You're really just saying you were planning to quit when they fired in early. Nineteen eighteen young man of about seventeen came to hamilton's office and threatened to kill her. I must end was not actually there at the time but this man assaulted krone and other staff before police arrived. How mistaken blamed the attack on all of this fall out and on the loss of her police badge in nineteen nineteen humblest instill thought that police were targeting her because of all of this and because of her exposure of so much corruption within the new york police department during and after the ruth krueger case that year she opened the manhattan ville be kind club which was supposed to be a gathering place for women and a daycare. Police shut it down charging her with operating a dance hall without a license even though she had checked ahead of time and was told she did not need a license accord later agreed with her. On march fourteenth of nineteen twenty-three hamilton was on her way to court. When she was hit by a truck at the corner of fifty ninth and third the driver of the truck. William heck didn't stop when the traffic officers signaled and blew his whistle so people could cross heck said that he thought he had the right of way and didn't see her chetta compound fracture in her foot. So she's pretty seriously injured and far as far as like her. Life was not threatened by this injury but it was a longtime of recovering. Holliston seems to have largely withdrawn from public appearance. After all of this she died on july sixteenth nineteen forty eight at the age of seventy six. That book that we mentioned at the top of the show is by brad ricca and it has called mrs sherlock holmes. The true story of new york city's greatest female detective and the nineteen seventeen missing girl case that captivated a nation tracy. Do you have listener. Mail that is maybe slightly less violent. I do not violent at this is from melissa and melissa. Wrote hi tracy in holly. I just got back from a quick trip to chicago. Which i took with my husband who had some work meetings there last week while he was occupied with work spent an afternoon in the chicago institute of art. It was my first time at that museum and it was wonderful and it contains a pretty big collection of impressionist art. Work as i was doubling back through the impressionist gallery to take a break outside. I read the captions on some monet's and maury sue. Just as i walked past about twenty seconds later as i sat down to rest i turned on one of your episodes that i had downloaded for my trip it was. Burt moreso quickly ran into the exhibit. To look more closely at the painting. I had just walked past. It was a hilarious wonderful ends to my trek around the museum. I loved learning about her since as you noted. She isn't very widely known or todd. And i didn't know about her role in the whole movement. Thanks i'm still smiling about that moment. Take care melissa. And then melissa cintas a second email the following day that said. Oh my gosh holly. I've just started josephine nickerson hopper and you were there chicago institute of art to ha- i love it. Thanks for the art episodes lately. Melissa i delight the story delighted. I had to immediately go. See what what barrymore. So things are on exhibit at the art institute of chicago and one of them is a really lovely painting of somebody like putting her hair up in front of her mirror. She's zone from behind and it just is a blue white kind of color palette. The other one is a woman sitting in a garden in a blue dress. And i don't know which of these that melissa saab. Both of them. I was like. I'm going to take some time this morning. Look at this art on the art institute of chicago website I don't think. I saw either of these while we were there a couple of years back because we were doing a special event and i was hanging out in a different part of the museum. Yeah there's a that museum is Expansive and so wonderful. I legitimately love it there. And i love the the staff there. 'cause they're just delightful and helpful in kind And i i feel since we have this opportunity that i have to give a shout out to one of the people that work named darlene king. Who is just an amazing person. She was like a greeting people. When i walked in and then later in the day i asked her for restaurant recommendations and she was hilarious delightful that's octaves so darlene. On the off chance you hear this you made my day wonderful. That's great so. Thanks melissa for sending this note. Thanks for giving me an excuse to look at some paintings. This morning i was getting my listener. 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Are We Looking at an Election 2020 Nightmare Scenario? (Ep 1282)

The Dan Bongino Show

1:01:06 hr | 1 year ago

Are We Looking at an Election 2020 Nightmare Scenario? (Ep 1282)

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show. That's not immune to the facts with your host Dan Bongino! Folks really hoping this doesn't happen. This is one of those shows today to talk about something but I. Honest to God I. Hope I'm wrong. I. Pray I'm wrong and it's the election. Twenty Twenty nightmare scenario I'm gonNA. Be Giving example that Joe knows in the real world is something had happened in Maryland and what I think, the Democrats are setting us up for now with this upcoming presidential election has me a little a little anxious. I'm just going to be candidate and I hope I'm wrong. Don't miss this show. I got that a spy gate update today. Show by friends at Express VPN. My savvy listeners get a VPN, and they secure their Internet. Using it go to express VPN dot com slash Bongino. Today welcomed the Dan Bongino. Show preacher Joe. How are you today? I'm do good. I didn't have myself turned up all kinds of stuff happening back here today. Hey was a little delay on that I just like is Joel Fine? We're have to send the name of. Joe knows the election I'm talking about so we'll get to that not too, but yeah I'm telling you. They're setting us up for a nightmare. I'm very worried about it all right? Let's get right to it. I got a loaded show today fisher. What friends at Bambi listen running a business HR issues can kill Your Business. Wrongful termination suits, minimum wage, requirements, Labor, regulations and HR manager salaries. They are not cheap. They averaged seventy thousand dollars A. A year Bambi spelled B. a. m.. B. E. was created specifically for your small business. You can get a dedicated hr manager. Craft your HR policy and maintain your compliance offer. What just ninety nine dollars a month? You know I gets too good to be true. It is not it is not with Bambi. You can change hr from your biggest liability to your biggest strength, your dedicated hr manager's available by phone, email or real time chat. From on boarding determinations they customize your I. Customize your policies to fit your business and help you manage your employees day to day off for just ninety nine dollars a month month to month. No fees cancel anytime. You didn't start your business because you want to spend time on HR compliance beyond lead Bambi help get your free hr audit today. Go to Bambi, dot com slash Dan Right now to schedule your free HR audit. That's Bambi Dot com slash, Dan Spelled B. Am to the B. E. E. DOT com slash Dan go today all right Joe. Let's go. A little quicker on your finger. Then he was during the. That's okay. That's Okay Joe's. Messing with, of course, you're all right, so joe is intimately familiar with the election. I'm going to talk about in a minute, but. Here's what they're doing right now. Ladies and gentlemen again. I hope I'm wrong. I think we are looking at an election twenty twenty election night, potential nightmare here. If. It is a close election. If it's close. which all indications seem to appear that this will be close between president trump obviously former vice president biden. What do I mean by that? The Democrats are pushing right now. Because of the corona virus, they are pushing for mass mail in balloting. As we know for mail in balloting is I've covered on this show before president trump is not wrong. is absolutely spot on correct that mail mass mail and battle I vote by mail. I don't have an objection to voting by mail to be clear what my position is I do have an objection to voting by mail if you don't have a legitimate reason. Which I think is the same position that trump scenario. Of the trump campaign, nobody should be sent a ballot in the mail if they did not in fact, request one because they have a reason and we all clear on that, because the distinctions are always blurred by the left, is they try and make us out to be the hypocrites they actually are. If you ever reason vote by mail military. You can't get to the ballot. You're sick. You're a daycare issues whatever it may be a you request a ballot by mail that is sent to your house, and they can authenticate you by mail. I have no issue with that. I do it not all the time but I do it when sometimes when we votes. I have no problem with that ballots being sent to registered voters via mail. Who didn't request them is a horrible idea. The Democrats would love that. Those ballots are votes hanging out there in the ether that there's really very little means to authenticate them whatsoever. The potential for fraud is absurd. It's outrageous. It's off the chart. Don't take my word for it. A president trump's word for. For it. WHO's equally concerned about male and fraud. Just Take The New York Times article. We've now cited three times. This is a two thousand twelve article in the New York Times by Adam lip tech. The New York. Times this isn't Bongino dot. COM actually would be. It'd be more reputable was at Bongino DOT COM, but this is them talking about the dangers of mail in voting. New York Times two thousand twelve error and fraud issue is absentee. Voting Rises Adam lip tech from inside the peace. Don't take it from me. Take it from the new. York Times themselves the issue. They would mail in voting. Vote votes cast by mail or less likely to be counted more likely to be compromised and more likely to be contested contested contested pay attention to that then those cast in a voting booth statistics show. This is the New York Times. Election officials reject almost two percent of ballots cast by mail double the rate for in person voting, not me the New York Times. The more people you forced to vote by mail Mr Sancho said with quoting and the piece, the more invalid ballots you will generate. Okay, Election experts say the challenges created by mail in ballots could well affect outcomes this fall and beyond. Member this from twenty twelve. If the contests next month or close enough to be with him with election, lawyers call the margin of litigation. Litigation the grounds on which they will be fought will not be hanging chads, but ballots cast away from the voting booth. Ladies and Gentlemen, the two key takeaways from that New York Times, article ym seriously anxious about what's going to happen in two thousand, twenty are contested ballots more likely to be contested via mail. Being someone says that doesn't look right. That's not the signature. That's not even description of voter. That wasn't sealed, right? That wasn't signed correctly. The more likely to be contested and litigation is likely to result litigation for the liberals the legal process. Now, what does this have to do with twenty twenty again? Ladies and Gentleman Democrats are pushing for mass mail in voting when we already know because his sister statistics are crystal clear that fraud is rampant more so than in person voting and secondly ballots are likely to be contested and sent to a long arduous legal process, swayed long arduous legal process I thought the election was going to be decided on election night. Yeah, I thought that to shame on me. Now, in case you think again. By the way I am citing left-wing rag resources for this, not because I think they're credible. The New York Times and the Washington Post, but simply because ideas I believe are credible. That mail in voting leads to increase fraud. They have already cited in their article, so they can't get away from it anymore. When it was probably of political advantage to them why they will writing that article back then who knows? Maybe absentee ballots were favoring Republicans always agenda with the times and others. Here's another left-wing rig. The Washington Post. Talking about late night counting of ballots on election night twenty, twenty, coming right up one hundred and thirty seven days away, barring a landslide. What's probably not coming on November Third Election Day. A result in the race for the White House Washington Post by Amy Gardner. Folks the Democrats are not stupid. They know exactly what they're doing. Now. As I opened up the show I said I was going to tie this to an experience that was had Maryland by many who lived there including Joe I was not there at the time of this election. But, this is the Democrats. Plan you ready you ready. The Democrats plan is election night, chaos litigation contested ballots mail fraud voter fraud whatever fraud you need to get. Contest it long enough in the process and then push for A. we've had enough. It's time to move on. Joe Biden WHO said well, we said it's time to move on. That wouldn't happen. It did happen in Maryland Joe. Remembers it well me? Having run for office in Maryland, this is a horror story Jeff I get anything wrong in this story police correctly, but there was a wonderful woman who I do it this day by the name of Ellen Sauerbrey. She ran for governor in Maryland. She. She was a Republican by the way and important point she won she. What was it against Glendenning I? Forget who I think it was in then. I don't even yeah. Yeah, I think so. She's running against glendenning. WHO's a democrat? Ellen Sauerbrey in an election night upset. There's no question. She wins this race not. She wins, but then all of a sudden in Baltimore. City votes star coming in there's allegations of voter fraud, tampering and next thing you know seemingly insurmountable lead by Ms. Sauerbrey the Republican turns into a lead for glendenning the Democrat. Now at a minimum, I listen to this day I believe she won that race handily by the way. There were all kinds of stories in attic dotes about fraud coming out of Baltimore City fraudulent ballots and Ellen sauerbrey fought it. What did the media? Of course the media they don't mind chaos. They don't mind the chaos at all. Only after about what about a week or so into, wasn't even that long show week or two all the sudden, it started getting out there. It's time to move on. It's time to move on at all. It is okay, so you're willing to see Ellen Sauerbrey what no, no, no. They started calling her the media sour grapes. She won. She I'm not getting this stronger. She won this race I'm telling you she won. The streets to fraud was rampant, and because she dared to complain about the fraud. The media piled on the Republican not the Democrat. Despite evidence everywhere, she won and said it's time to move on. Ladies and Gentlemen Listen Mark This show date Tuesday June twenty third market. If it had I pray I'm wrong, but this will be a contested election. I think it will be if it's close. If it's not close in either direction, it's not going to matter because of the Electoral College. Who of course we know, it's not a popular vote election, but if you have electoral chaos in three or four swing states. Michigan Pennsylvania Wisconsin whatever it may be and this race hangs up in the air. You're going to see lawsuits out the wazoo nobody knows where the Wasser ways, but the wazoo exists because everybody talks about Wazoo all the time. You are going to see lawsuits out of the fictional Wazoo and I'm telling you. The media is going to pile on with trump's user, but he didn't lose. We don't have any evidence, Lester. He's a sore loser. It's time to move on sore loser sour grapes. That's what they call the Ellen. Sauerbrey sour grapes. Election Of course she didn't win because Paris glendenning took the governorship in Maryland. Despite the fact that the evidence of fraud is everywhere. The media then destroyed her reputation or tries right to. Wonderful tried to wonderful human being by the way to this day. Some woman I really adore. It's the. Let's move on strategy. Get ready for it right now. I'm telling you. It's going to happen if this is close time to move on totally sour grapes by trump. You know someone else ran in an election like that, too. And knowing what they were about to do to my reputation. We could seat it even out of this day. Probably haven't said this on my show, but I'll say now. I'm convinced we won that election I'm not personal against John. Delaney I ran for Congress in the Maryland six congressional district. We won that race on election day. By something like two thousand three hundred votes on the election day balloting. We somehow lost that election. It's interesting that we lost that election by one percentage point. By I think it was a little over a thousand votes or something like that. And yet. Five digit number of a five digit number of people in Frederick. City Democratic enclave voted in an election who had said on their jury duty forms earlier that they weren't citizens. Knowing the savagery that was about to begin of my reputation if we dared the fight this thing. We moved on they can. We could fight again at a later date. I may have been a mistake even to this day. The much sure. Get ready for just one more quick article in the show notes today Matt Palumbo. Here's another one show innocent mistake. Don't worry about it of course Bongino Dot Com odd went in the show notes. Dot Com slash newsletter if you want to subscribe to my show. So in New Jersey hundreds of new, Jersey Republicans receive misprinted ballots listing only Democrat candidates Matt Palumbo Bongino. Don't worry Joe. Company screwed up well. You don't worry no big deal. Is. All right all right Dan. Oh I! Never seem to work the other way I'm sure Democrats. Registered Democrats didn't Republican ballots, but again if we complain where all conspiracy conspiracy theories, okay sure. Folks the. Joe had to clean up some of this video pretty bad the US move on the attack in DC last night again we had rioters, rioters, vandals, and criminals in DC. They were protests are okay. Protesters note destroyed Public Property Ladies and gentlemen. Sorry, if you believe that wrong show, go find yourself as yourself true. CRM somewhere because you need it your clearly immune to facts. Facts we had some vandals and criminals get together in DC. Last night decided was going to be a good idea to destroy public statues and property again. Thankfully, they were stopped. The president's not having any of that. Around the White House it happened on the grounds Lafayette Park across the street where there's a statue of Andrew, Jackson which the left tried to pull down. As I, told you yesterday, ladies and gentleman. This is no longer about statues. This is about power and intimidation. This is about violence. This is about power this ladies and gentlemen. They need to subjugate you the left. They need to shut you up. They'll use their tech tyrant allies to do it, and this is about the pure payco takeover of their. Power and using power silence you and shut you out. There are two ways to do it as I said yesterday, you can take power yourself, or you can intimidate those empower. Intimidation is a tool that is the coin of the realm as I said last night on Hannity. They want to intimidate you corporate America. Pressure your kids and their schools. This is what they do. Look at this in the Washington. Times. This lunatic Shaun King. Known to be a big hoaxer Shaun King Washington time. Sorry being the show today he now they're moving on. Remember. This was about statue. Supposedly the confederacy and it started as A. Allegedly started as we got to get rid of the confederates that Shaun King. Big Hoax out there far left radical notch up Shaun. King says Jesus images a form of white supremacy that must go. They should all come down. Douglas Washington Times. Ladies and gentlemen. There is no limiting factor to this psycho pathological behavior. It's an idealistic in nature. It is guarded towards destruction. And their sole purpose is to intimidate you through power. And to gain power over public officials are take power themselves. There's no other explanation for this. Why you would tear down a statue of abolitionist, Matthias Baldwin Gandhi. and Jesus ICONOGRAPHY and statues why you would want that torn down. Again speaks to a psychological illness on your behalf or a willingness to destroy the system as it is to take power over others. Now showing you how insane this movement has got their try has. Gotten. They're trying to establish a autonomous zone like they have in the. Stan and Stan in Seattle. Chop Chop Elena whatever it's called. There are trying to establish those in front of the White House and they want to call it the the be has the black house autonomous. Not Making this is not a joke. I am not messing with you. They want to be if you went to business school. You know what it'd be Hag, right big, hairy, audacious goal, not A. A joke either business school they use that term, a lot of be had big, hairy, audacious, called the big hairy, audacious skull of the radical leftist Tattoos, statute, tearing down vandals is to establish a be has the be hag is the be, has the Black House autonomous zone in front of the White House President? Trump was having none of it's so of course. The vandals criminals lost their minds now. This is where the movement of totally completely goes off the rails completely. I don't even call this a movement there. Vandals, these people are criminals live. He's not legitimate protest trying to destroy public property and attack people. So this was supposed to be about black lives, right? That's how black lives matter. That's how this started. This is a fascinating clip which Joe added I can only use ten seconds because the languages so vulgar. Here is a white dude with tattoos. Again the racial thing doesn't matter. This is supposed to be like doesn't matter to us, but this is a black lives matter. Movement right. So here's a white dude protester in the video. The Guy with tattoos viewing WANNA watch YouTube dot com slash Bongino. He's in the face of black police. Officer and Joe had a beep out what he says, but we'll come back on the other side, but again white protester, who supposedly believes black lives matter in the face of a black police officer for those of you listening radio and Even through the beliefs, try to discern what this complete lunatic maniac says. Check this out. Moves on. right now because this is a family, friendly show and we exist on terrestrial radio as well where there are language standards. The white protester who again he's supposed to believe black made by Bobo foaming. If you look at the clip, go to YouTube dot com slash Bongino. He's actually foaming from his facial hair. It's quite gross. It's disgusting. The Guy had probably hasn't showered in a few weeks, but he's in the face of a black police officer, just doing his job and he tells one of the officers tell this. Be a N. word. rhymes with. Switch class? N Word. Tell the. So just to be clear to black lives. Matter at their this dude here this one you guys. This is a a a protester by peaceful interface foaming at the mouth. A white guy in the face of a black police officer. Calling Him A. Switch class? You get the rest. About confederate statues. Black lives matter. They matter not his. Not. The police officers black lie. That's probably data. No, the man never met him in my life. Probably a dad probably got kids as your foaming and spitting in his face in the middle of the Wuhan virus outbreak, but Don't want black lives. Matter Right. Just not his. All right. We got next all right, I want to get this spy gate covered yesterday. Because it's detailed, it's layered at his ugly and basically the takeaway again is you paid for the trump campaign to be spied on which should hit you like a gut punch, but you know sadly won't hit the liberals because they don't care because the police state and they'll use their tax dollars to spy on their political opponents any time. Today also writes about our friends at brickhouse nutrition. I have two of their products. You've today, my personal favorite foundation, you know I love foundation I've only been bragging about this product from the last. Four or five years, brickhouse nutrition dot com slash Dan use Promo Code Dan. Get fifteen percent off check. 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Call you a white supremacist. Basically a you're also paying for the trump team to be spied him so the Great Margo Cleveland. Deeming last night, she's like Oh. That's really nice you to call me Gresh. She is quite, she's terrific. WE LOVE YOU CLEVELAND. Your pieces are fantastic. She has this piece up at the federalist up in yesterday's show us. We're going to go through the same. What's inside grizzlies letter demanding more about the deep deep states, role spy Gate Ladies and gentlemen. The take away from this is stunning. Remember this guy's Ifan, fun helper. This spice spied on the trump team. He tried to interact with George Papagiannis Hey George. What do you know about the Russians? Tried to interact with Carter page now. What was devastating is that this guy was an informant for the FBI. What's even more devastating? This guy had contracts as we can see from the first greet shot had contracts with the Pentagon's office of net assessment known as A. Helper was also receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars from a it. Quoting to contracts span the same time period as crossfire hurricane the investigation of Donald Trump, oh really. Really Fascinating. So Stefan Helpers being paid by the federal government the Pentagon. To go and spy on the trump team and the contracts overlap the same time. The FBI spying on trump and we got through that yesterday, so let me motorhead quick because this gets even more interesting. There's some beautyrest takeaways from this beautiful and gorgeous beauty, so here's takeaway number two you like that. Yeah I didn't make that up. That was someone in my family settled so my grandmother. Of interest was Baker's response to grass. These questions about how personal relationship with the trip. Nick off a name you know on the show, well a known Russian intelligence officer so Haufer who spying on the trump team at the behest of the FBI, and it's also being paid by our. Pentagon vis-a-vis your tax dollars. He listed a Russian intelligence officer Trubnikov as a possible reference for what the contracts. So Senator Grassley wanted to know a little more about this, and he said to this Guy James Baker. who was running portion to the? Said Hey James. tell me if you follow me Joe, so let me just be clear. We got a guy spying on the trump team, trying to interact with the trump team at the behest of the FBI. Hey, fellas, what are you know about Russia? WHO's also being paid by the Pentagon And, what's really weird? Is Senator Grassley Pretty Good Republicans? So he's on top of these federal law enforcement issues for decades. says. Hey Owen Guy James Baker. WHO's paying helper. Can you tell us a little more about those contracts? Because they seem to be running concurrently with the FBI investigation, which would mean that the Pentagon was paying a spy spy on the trump team, right? Weird strange. How that goes right? Yeah? Also we one more angle on this that Chuck Grassley finds interesting idea to he says hey listen. This is kind of weird, too that the spy helper. Is claiming that one of his contacts is a Russian. The former head of the Russian VR one of their intelligence outfits. Really. That's really strange. I! Don't you said trump was colluding with Russians? So the guy who's claiming trump's colluding with the Russians and contributing to dossier. That's claiming that and trump team. Members are colluding with the Russians the guy who's claiming that is colluding with a Russian. Nose Itchy, sorry. You understand what I'm getting. Yes, is very simply as Guy Paid by taxpayers trump the citing one of his sources for Information Russian intelligence officer. That was even more fascinating. Christopher. Steele, we've always wanted by the way cover this in my next book. Extensively this whole relationship between our and steel, and how I think the FBI did this through their handlers is a whole chapter on this going to blow your mind, follow. The money is my book. Please pick it up today on preorder, available Barnes and noble, but any way you buy books online. Check it out today. Follow the money there. It is by me Dan Bongino as a whole chapter on this. That I promise you have not heard before how the F. B.. I. Hid the connections between steel and hopper. Now. Why would that be important? Follow me for a moment. And how does? It in here, folks all of us. We've all had a hard time. All of the spy gate researchers out there. We've had a hard time. Connecting Helper to Christopher Steele Steele writes the dossier. Right called the steele dossier. The tape stuff the collusion stuff. It's important because steel was the face of the dossier for one reason because steel at work the Russia desk for Intel, so he was credible air quotes. They needed his face on the dossier. I told you from the START I. Don't think steel wrote to hold RCA I think. How had significant input, but we've never been able to make a direct connection. There are tons of secondary tertiary connections one of them which I go into detail in my book. Do these FBI. Handlers that appear to know each other the handler for steel and the handler for helper. They seem to know each other, and if worked together. But the direct connection between halpern steals been tough. UNDERSTAND WHY IT matters, they've told us the whole time at this credible guy who was a British Intel Guy Christopher Steele worker Russia decks. He wrote that therefore he's credible. We believe the tape and the dossier stuff. But what if a guy who is being paid by taxpayers? Who's already cited that? He's colluding with Russian intelligence. What if he wrote a lot of it? Trick Offs The Connection Look At this handwritten note. This is important I've used this often, Christopher Steele. Goes in and talks to Kathleen cavill. Lack of the State Department just ten days before they write up the FIS award. Look at this right here. These are handwritten notes. Christopher Steele sites is one of his sources. Look at that right there Trubnikov. Nick Off Ladies and gentlemen is how contact it's not steals. Which begs the obvious question? Who wrote the damn dossier? Did how right significant portions of or give steal the information. And Steel was the one who put it down on paper. That's important because the Democrats have told us the whole time, no, no, the information was credible. This Russia desk. Guy Steele, Rooted Ladies and gentlemen that was not just meant to give it an air of a Patina of credibility. It was also meant to block you from seeing what was behind the curtain. which is that you paid for this stuff? Think about it. Steele was paid by Hillary. That's bad enough. But once that came out. The Democrats are willing to take a bath on it. Okay, we paid to have the trump team spied on vis-a-vis. Christopher Steele Hillary pay. That's really bad by bad. Nelson months time. You know what's even worse. If, we found out that the reality of the situation was that that information actually came from helper who was paid for by you. By taxpayer dollars to the Pentagon now we have this connection through Trubnikov. Skill saying Travnik off source that's not as source alpers source. Steals got to be getting this alpers whether way. This gets better is. PEACE MARGO CLEVELAND. What's fascinating? Here is the the guy who runs the office of net assessment. This Guy James Baker he responds to Senator Grassley who's interested in these contracts were paying this guy how to spy on? The trick seems awfully weird. Man, so Baker writes back their quote, well, professor. How did not disclose any relationship? which your bic off to any official to the best of our knowledge, we are not aware of any purported relationship. The letter continued, and therefore we cannot judge what impact it may have had any single written report. Wow. That's fascinating. because. Trump Nicholas relationship would help her. With Open source information folks. Haufer, who teaches at Cambridge over in the UK. Had already invited trip. Nick off. They were buddies to teach at their symposium there. This was public information. So you're telling me? The Pentagon's office of net assessment is supposedly supposedly dealing with these high level. Spies couldn't do a basic internet search I'm confused. Somehow you missed his relationship with Nikko despite the fact if you googled put any Internet Travnik off. Haufer. You could have seen that. They taught together at Cambridge. That one guest lectured. He came back and forth. You missed all that. You missed all that. The whole Internet search thing escapes you. What makes that point even more embarrassing for the discredited FBI remember the takeaway you paid for help or to spy you pay not just hillary. You Taylor repaid for steel steals working with Alber getting his information from a Russian. And how is being paid to get this information from this Russian by you by your tax dollars? Making Matters Thousand Times worse is Joe. What was Mike Flynn investigative for that's. Contact with Russia. So, just a pig head scratcher again here, folks so just to be clear. Mike Flynn who's investigated for probably close to two years, General Flynn. They find quote, no derogatory information at all on Flynn to the point. They're going to close the case in January before Komi intervenes. Is only investigated. For Secondary and tertiary contact with Russians. That have nothing to do with any breach of national security whatsoever yet. We have a spy who admits colluding with the Russian and is paid to do it. And yet that's used as impetus to investigate Mike Flynn. For, contacts, with Russians. Nothing to do with anything. Let's go to the next. Take away from Argo. Cleveland's pieces in the show notes from yesterday again. Please check it out. Dot Com slash newsletter. The only contract awarded the helper also raised the second issue for Grassley turning concerning whether Haufer here we go. Here's the money shot. Folks had used any tax payer money provided by the Department of Defense to recruit or attempt to recruit sources for the FBI investigation into the now debunked theory of collusion between the trump campaign and Russia. Yes. S. That my friends is the question I've been asking on this show for eons. It's not that Hillary paid for the dossier. It's that you didn't. Air Making matters even worse when someone in the office of net assessment smelled a rat, notably a man by the name of Adam Levinger. Who Knew Mike Flynn. Thought we paying this guy to spy on the trump team. This seems Kinda Weird. But what happened to Levinger? Well as we can see this, Washington Times article by row in Scarborough. It's an older one, but it's still worth your time. Twenty, one, thousand, nine hundred. Loose contracting practices at the Pentagon office wasted. Millions whistleblower punished. He was. Was He punished for. Let's check this out. So Stefan Helper, the professor became an FBI informed the spy in the trump campaign. Failed to document the research did his contract or in four Pentagon studies worth a million dollars in investigation found. The Dod Inspector General Port Exposes these loose contracting practices in. The same kinds of problems reported by analyst Adam Levinger. Who was later accused of mishandling sensitive data, sensitive data and has been suspended without pay thought we loved whistle blowers. Parents, not when they blow the whistle on the selective targeting of trump campaign officials by Stefan helper a paid Pentagon and FBI spy. Dawson interesting is this Guy James Baker who had a is also known to be a friend David Ignatius of the Washington Post, yes. Yes, the same guy who happened to leak in February, the conversation between Mike Flynn and the Russian Ambassador Kislyak, which was used as an impotence impetus that in prosecute my flint. I'm sure the relationships. There are all just cozy. No worries big coincidences. All right I've got a lot more to get to loaded show today. But I can't sized you enough. Margot Cleveland's onto their and how important that is! It's not that steal produce the dossier paid for by Hillary. That's bad enough. To then spy on trump. It's that you paid for it. I can't say this enough. That's the scandal I been hammering home for months if not a year now. Pick up my book. You'll see the chapter how they made the connection with the FBI guys to. It's a little long for today I want to get the NPR and some other stuff all right? We're good. Let me get to my final. 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Now the media of course is enjoying sewing racial animus in the country, because they really leads to better bottom lines, the more pieces you can write. Calling everyone in America. You don't agree with White Supremacists, the Nazi and other things they don't really can, can I? Take a point of personal privilege. Here I'm sorry. I again. The personal stories sometimes matters like somebody you do, but he's so last night getting ready to hit the sack have been a long day. Just finished. Hannity Think Paula was brushing her teeth. Whatever and she's like you know these people are amazing. What were we actually say you remember we were talking about? It was something about of the protests. How the media? How the media during the protests, the George protest didn't care at all about the virus. As if the virus cares about what kind of protest virus doesn't care, it's not even alive. It doesn't think okay. But. We're saying how we had predicted. That the media would celebrate the George Floyd protest because they think there's a political advantage in it for them. And yet when trump had a rally, they would attack them. Saying this is deadly for people show, and we predicted it, and it doesn't matter like the media doesn't care so. I was trying to spend the pollock. She was genuinely upset last night that the media's always lying and nobody calls him out. and. She's like I. Don't get it. Are they? Even embarrassed and I'm like no, they're not embarrassed with. Something CNN done. She was asking me. How does he think, aren't they like horrified him. Oh I, remember. You would ask me what the wall! Yes, the wall! So, CNN, which of course did months of pieces on walls? Don't work. Remember that Joe Walls Walls. They don't work. That's all technology, so's fire and the wheel and the inclined plane. Pendulum those are all old technologies to, but we still use those. You know electricity. Old Technology to Jona didn't happen yesterday. We still use that so works pretty good. The whole wheel thing the wheels on the bus go. That's all technology CNN for months. Rampage walls is stupid walls don't work. L. Technology Idiots so see built a wall around his headquarters in Atlanta. I'm not kidding not a joke. You can check out the pictures so policy, aren't they? Embarrassed I'm like no. They're not embarrassed I'm sorry. I really deeply care about you Miss Paula, but why are you pretending? These people have dignity. They don't care. If on my show I spent months. Telling you walls didn't work. I would be embarrassed to build a wall around my house. Of course, I said walls do work so I wouldn't be embarrassed at all, but I would I would be horrified if I had to backtrack. They don't care. They are just outwardly lying. If they're forced to retract or put editor's note and they will, but they don't care why, because by the time they write it them story and get it out there. It'll travel around the ecosystem of ideas and people will believe it's true, and then when they retract, put an editor's note in days later, nobody will see it. They don't care. They're not embarrassed. These people are enemies of truth. They don't care. We're in like the walking dead right now. Where you can argue with them, all you want. They are attacking the truth. They don't care. You can't fight back with facts. There are no facts that are going to bother them. You think I'm making this up. How genuinely awful these people are not only is you pay for this trump team to be spotted? You paid and NPR for this garbage. Look at this tweet. This is a real tweet by the way we're not messing with from NPR, which your tax dollars financed. At NPR. Right wing extremists are turning cars into weapons with reports of at least fifty vehicle ramming incidents since the protests erupted nationwide in late. May, and look at the picture they use. Yeah, some of you on the Youtube or figuring this out. Where's that picture from Oh Charlottesville? Where lunatic ran over a that woman and killed her. Focus Gross. This is absolutely gross. Gross. So just to be clear when NPR's suggesting. They're trying to aggravate racial animus because they profit from it and PR and I don't mean profit necessarily bottom line they get eyeballs and their ideology wins the day. So they inflame hostile situation what they're referring to. And the original photo they used was a photo in Louis Louisville. Where a woman was cornered by violent raging criminals wanted in her car. One of them who allegedly had a firearm? In our effort to get away, she hit one of these protesters to save her life. That was the picture they used originally, and when they got busted using that, they put up the picture of Charlottesville to inflame an already hostile situation. You don't believe me. Here's a from NPR. Dot Org. This. Headline these, but these people are lunatics. Vehicle attacks rise as extremist target protesters. Do you believe this? Violent violent extremist rioters are surrounding people's cars, attacking them damaging their property as they tried to get away to save themselves from assault or potential death. If they happen to hit a protester, the absolute lunatic MANIAC MANIACS NPR describing you as the violent extremists. What's their evidence? That these are extremists in the cars trying to save their lives. Their evidence is that there are fifty plus incidence of of people trying to escape violent rioters. So jove fifty incident. They were all white supremacist. I would guess that's NPR's premise. Right properly filed Julia Joe Violent. Yeah, right wing extremists are running people over. Yeah, yeah, I'm afraid well. It's interesting when you dig into the article you find out I have an article about the federalists about this. Actually dig into the data. That in thirty, two of those fifty incidents, the driver wasn't even charged. Well. Why wouldn't the driver be charged? Maybe because they were being attacked by lunatics? Saying. I'm just saying. Well, we also find out of these fifty incidents again. We're thirty two where no one was even charged because they were trying to get away from people attacking them, but NPR tells the story. They're not embarrassed by telling you the story backwards at all by the way I. Don't expect this to change NPR even one bit. Out of those fifty clearly, but forty eight of more radical white supremacist. There was one incident where this individual had a connection to some what they call extremist group. One. So remember Joe. There is a mass outbreak of violent white supremacists running down people in America of which they can document one. One, one one one incident. There, forty nine short man. Jeez. What are you know? Well? Said Joe putting all the forty nine. They don't even have a majority. They don't have a plurality. They don't have anything have one. But again NPR so what NPR wants you to do just to be clear if you are attacked by violent criminal writers, who to pull you and your kids out of your car, damage or destroy your Prophet. You sit there and take it according to NPR. Don't you worry whatsoever? Speaking of media complete lunatics, so you know you ever heard of the sixteen nineteen project. If you haven't good for you because it's a total hoax, it's one of these new. York Times led projects. And a woman who's been involved in IT Google? The name is Hannah Jones. They write for this project and it's basically America's horrible. You all stink this terrible country and you all suck. That's the sixty ninety, but which is no surprise that comes from the New Year. But one of the people pushing the sixteen ninety project and involved with it. This is an article by legal insurrection. Be Up in the show notes. It's interesting on. Twitter got caught pushing a absolutely insane conspiracy theory on Twitter Story Legal Sixteen nineteen. Project Lead writer pushes conspiracy theory about a works in New York. Get a lot of this. Is Not a joke. This New York Times and their history project sixteen nineteen. What are their lead writers saying? The government handed out fireworks to minority communities. You know there's fireworks been going off the street and some of these liberal cities. To get the minority community used to the sound of firecrackers and other fireworks so that when they start using the real artillery on the minority community, they won't know the difference. Sorry but allergies today. This is like these. This is your history project. Lead writer. that. The government in minority communities is giving out fireworks. To minorities to have them shoot them off so when the government attacks them with the real artillery. They will be de conditioned to the RESP- I. I, don't even I? That's so dumb that even today's environment where any I mean any conspiracy theory from the left really like mass white supremacists vehicle attacks are going on all over the United States where you'll say anything, even that one. How is the New York Times not fired the woman who put this out there for just really over sheer embarrassment alone? The Can I. Ask you a question to on this kind of common sense how I can't believe even entertaining this stupidity if the government was planning. To Roll artillery into minority communities to shell like the Bronx or East New York Brooklyn where I worked as a police officer. You think someone might notice that. I'm just checking Joe Howitzers and stuff. You think that might elicit a little media response, maybe the Geyser, some howitzers on the belt parkway, looking out toward stare at city. That's strange Pique your interest. Yeah Yeah, a little, bad right. Little bed, maybe. I'm just I'm just asking mortars and stuff they're trying to. Be like scratching this really put out there by a woman involved with a history project with the New York Times. One that by the way some schools want to teach in schools. That the government is preparing to shell people with artillery. Minority communities. To Pager today which. We're actually getting the second page and think we're going to get there. Did you even load these images? Because you didn't think it, did you? You didn't you know you didn't think I was getting there I, know you. Right. Daily Mail showing you again the insanity. We're living in today. Daily Mail, article out. I'm. GonNa put this one. Joe Keep that headline of mine under the headline why destroying burning down looting and rampage neighborhood is probably not a good idea. Okay, all right Paul said this yesterday. She doesn't do this often, but yet I'm just just saying. Call me crazy. Joe Logic and reason went out the window a long time ago, but being that you probably shop and do dry cleaning. By your food and your own neighborhood why you would burn those stores to the ground seems kind of self defeating book quite a by no again. I'm just a stupid former COP in federal agent. I don't know anything, but it's Jonno. He's an audio engineer. Morons we are. Burnt around foods the Daily Mail has this interesting piece will be in the show? So you know Valentino? It's a high end I think clothing producer I don't I. Don't know I don't shop there, but what ends? Valentino sues to terminate its lease on Manhattan's Fifth Avenue. Because it's no longer a luxury destination quote after the coronavirus, lockdown and stores were boarded up during looting. Just throwing this out. There is a cautionary tale folks, maybe not a good idea to burn your own neighborhoods down just saying. Neighborhood, a baby food clothing that kind of stuff just throwing that out there. By the way in that story if you read it, they're not the only ones. Was J. crew and others that are looking to basically evacuate Fifth Avenue in Manhattan. More fake news. So you know the southern district of New York the United States attorney up there, Jeff Berman, who was fired by president trump over the weekend. which he's allowed to do by the way he is still the pres- the United States. To. So you understand how this works? You know. How in your local town or city? You Have Da District Attorney in the district attorney have? Assistant district attorneys as at work for them. They prosecute crimes. Police, officers and federal agents don't prosecute anything. They arrested investigate. Prosecute anyone. That's done by attorneys for the government. Forgive me I. I'm not saying this any kind of condescending fish, but some people go may not know how the government system works. When I was a cop, you'd go to an. Assistant District Attorney. and. They would prosecute the case for a federal agent. We would go to a USA's very hear that term a USA. It stands for Assistant United States Attorney. They all work for either a DA or a United States attorney for every specific area when I was federal agent New York. There were two areas we would go to if we made an arrest. In Manhattan it would go to the southern district of New York if we made an arrest on long island or Brooklyn and went to the Eastern District New York either. The Southern District of New York has always had a reputation for doing their own thing was once led by the Great Rudy Giuliani by the way it is since gone far left many of them. Now led by Jeffrey. Berman Jeffrey Berman was fired. This weekend by President trump totally within his authority and all kinds of conspiracy theories are about that, my Gosh, she must have been looking into the trump team, which is nonsense, not that he was looking into the trump team or trump associates, he may very well have been there evidence. There's a lot of evidence that. Investigations will not stop no matter what president trump that's so. That's a false hope story. But John Solomon is a great piece of the show. No, said Jeffrey Berman may not be the shining white night. Everybody thinks is here to save the day another victim of president trump's. Conspiracies tech this out. Just the news dot com fire New York prosecutor was given the Biden Ukraine allegations two thousand eighteen, but didn't follow up emails. Show John Solomon June twenty second twenty twenty. Really. Interesting little note from the Peace Jeff Berman. Who seems to care more about president, trump and Rudy Giuliani and investigating what kind of bathrobes they wear at night, then actually doing the real work of looking in to what to what Joe Biden did so here's Jeff Bourbon from John Salomon's piece in addition my you know. The company Hunter Biden worked for Joe Biden kid their US representatives were lobbing State Department Washington US Embassy in. Seeking to make corruption allegations go wait. State memos released under Foia Law Show. They talk about these allegations here. That were sent to to Berman. That not only was. Let's Cinco. The prosecutor fired, but that there were other people Marie Ivanovich Biden and John Kerry, who already joined conclusions about who the bad guys and the good guys was were in an e mail written to Berman himself. Who made this all? Go Away, so let me sum this up for you to make it simple to understand at the end of the show. So a lawyer wrote to Jeffrey Berman who was a former United States attorney himself. wrote to Burma and the guy who was fired and said Hey, listen. We got serious allegations coming from Ukraine that the black. Ledger used to prosecute Paul Manafort was in fact. False is not. It's a hoax. And that pressure was being applied by US officials over here to determine who the good guys and bad guys were without investigation and also Barisno this investigation into the two one hundred Biden's kids company to make that go away, and what it Berman do here's. What permited hands under caboose sat on. It did absolutely nothing. Did that factor into his dismissal ohno. But maybe people should start asking Jeff Berman those kinds of questions which they won't because their media, people and they don't care. Frustrating. To my final story of the day. I warned you. I hoped again like when we opened the show that what I predict what I'm predicting about the twenty twenty election I hope it's not true. But I warned you. Also about the D- policing neighborhoods I got an email from a friend. I can say who obviously but. N- email from a friend yesterday asking me. Damn, what's really going on in these communities that are seeing murder, rates and crime rates skyrocket through the roof. You see this article that red state it'll be up. at the show notes as well. Check it out. Murder Rate Skyrocket as police or pull back. The numbers are stunning. What's Happening Ladies and Gentlemen? Listen I'm just going to give you the scoop in the inside baseball whether you agree or disagree with it is entirely up to you. The facts matter though what I'm hearing from my police officer friends on the ground a couple of things. The criminals in the street carrying guns. No, they'll no longer be Frist. In other words, let's say you had a public nuisance, complaint or something some drinking in the street drinking in public again I'm not going to get into whether you agree. This stuff should be criminal in that. It's not I'm trying to explain why crime rates. There's an actual reason they're going up. In the past way it would work under aggressive, policing and progressive. I mean under broken windows I don't mean aggressive physically. But active policing of neighborhoods, you call. If you're on a foot post, they'd say hey, listen. There's a couple of guys in my corner. Drinking in public one looks drunk. He's in the street whatever it may be. One! You come out here in San someone. It's two o'clock in the morning. You'd go out there. And if you on the scene and you were talking to some for ID, you were allowed to engage in a pat down, not a full fifth, but a pat down a Lungibu kind of grabbed area, so you don't get shot. Well what would happen on those nine one one calls often? Well what would happen is you would find a firearm. Well Ladies and gentlemen. Criminals aren't stupid. They're not. They, figure that out so when they were hanging out on the corner. And they were drinking or doing their thing late at night, harassing people walking by. What would they do with the gun? They put in a paper bag. They dropped the paper bag on the floor somewhere. While why would you do that? On case? They got another rival gang or whatever it is. A drug gang came up and tried to attack me. Go grab the paper Bag. But if they got what we call tossed frisked whenever it was every. They have tons of different words. Frist pat down whatever it may be. You wouldn't find anything. And they would say if you did happen to kick the bag and see the gun. That's that's not mine I. Don't know how that got there no way dependent on them. You didn't know that. Well you know most people know so the commentators on TV who never cops and pretend to know everything about policing? Don't know that, either. Because they never spent a day in the streets I was there I saw it and smart cops to search around the area. Not just the bad guy because listen if it's abandoned property the gun that it's hours. We're GONNA. Take it! We're GONNA Voucher. It and we got a gun off. The street may not be able to arrest you for it, but it's off the street that night. Lijo gods of course. And even if it is legal, you're not gonNA. Leave it on the street in a paper bag. You may say well. What does that have to do? What's going on now? Not of that's happening. None of it. If they're not called specifically to nine one one call, they are not responding. They are not responding on any voluntary basis that if the call to pull over a vehicle, they pull him over. Look at the license have a nice day. They're not asking people to come out. They're not engaging in these. Pat Downs matter of fact if they have to respond to. What of these calls? This is all. I'm just telling you what I'm hearing there driving up a guys hanging out according to drinking, they're usually like the criminals like. Hey, screw you whatever they're like. Okay, have a good day. What happens in our later guy gets a beef shoots the next to him whatever? There's a reason this is happening. The Murder Rate New York. City's three hundred and fifty eight percent from the same week last year. You think it's just a statistical anomaly. Or as one told me yesterday on the five this summer, and it's just heating up. Kind of animalistic interpretation is add like we're all a bunch of savages. It gets hot world killing each other. That's not what happens. It's not at all what happens. That's an old wives tale. Like hot weather encourages people to act like animals. No, that's not what's happening at all. Criminals respond to incentives. When they thought they'd get patted down the street because they were causing a public nuisance whatever it may be, they wouldn't carry their guns. When they know they won't be patted down. They carried her guns. It's as simple as I've. Of, course you're not going to hear that from commentators on TV, because most of them whenever cops have no idea what you're talking about. Just saying folks. Whether. You think any of that's right or wrong entirely up to you, but those are the facts. All right thanks again for tuning in I. Really appreciate it again. Please pick up my books available for preorder. Now it's called. Follow the money. I really appreciate it. We put a lot of work into it and I. Think the chapter. There's also a chapter on Biden and. The fake whistleblower that is going to make a connection you haven't heard before either, but the chapter on how steel's connected are pretty. It's pretty interesting. The Steve Selma Chapter. You're GonNa love that name Jack. I haven't heard that. Read the book you'll get him. Follow the money available now for preorder. Thanks a lot for picking it up I. Really Appreciate It all right folks I. We'll talk to you all tomorrow. Just heard Dan Bongino.

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What it Means to be a Servant Leader with Sean Georges

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What it Means to be a Servant Leader with Sean Georges

"This is the at five thirty on main podcast. I'm Sean Collins and I'm Mike Davis, and we're here to discuss the convergence of digital and physical experiences in today's world. With. Extend Group as an expert in designing online experiences and VPS architecture an expert on creating physical experiences, you will hear unique discussions on technology theory and more that merges our separate ways of expertise and one podcast experience. Thanks for tuning in, we hope you enjoy today's at five thirty main podcast episode. All right today we are in the extension studio at five thirty on mainstreet. We are at five thirty on main podcasts. Have my co host Mike Davis in studio today. How's it going? Going good. We have the pleasure of having Sean Georges in today at the extension studio for the at five thirty on main podcast Really looking forward to this discussion. It's you know we have a lot of designers come in. We've had guitar designers. We've had interaction designers come in we've had other architects come, and we've had individuals who are leading. Roles in construction and we're we're talking about the word experience but let me go through briefly I. Don't know if I can do this briefing. This is good stuff right here everybody take note if I I messed this up I apologize but Mr Shawn, Georges, he currently serves as in-house counsel senior. Vice President of human resources and Secretary of the board of directors for a publicly traded national retailer with over three hundred ninety stores in thirty five states if that's not enough right there I mean we could just get started with that but I I would not be doing Sean Service here he's he has a great track record. So let's go through listen to of that in nineteen, eighty-three Sean graduated with Distinction English. From the United States Naval Academy at Annapolis Maryland where he served as the vice chair of the Brigade Honor Committee Sean accepted a commission as the Marine Corp Officer and while on active duty with the Marines, he was one of ten officers selected to attend law school under the funded law education program. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, nine, he earned his juris doctorate degree from the University of Illinois, College of Law, and in Nineteen ninety-three he earned a master of laws degree with the Judge Advocate General School of the army at the University of Virginia during his thirteen years of active duty with the Marine Sean served in numerous positions of responsibility with units. From North Carolina all the way to Okinawa a marine judge advocate he served as senior trial counsel and senior Defense Counsel Special Assistant United States, attorney deputy staff judge advocate and as senior judge advocate of the Thirty First Marine. Expeditionary Unit Special. Operations. Capable. In the West Pacific after leaving the Marine Sean worked as a senior litigation associate at law firms. In Evansville, Indiana with the focus on business employment and labor law, he is admitted to practice in court. In Indiana Illinois and the United States Supreme Court? Shown, is frequent speaker on leadership employment law in human resources, issues and serves on several nonprofit boards in our local. Community Sean and I've actually been on a few of those boards together Mike. I think all collectively served on one I I can think of and he is now completing a book on Servant Leadership and the Leadership Development Journey with his Co. author Dr John Buford Phd Sean, that is an amazing. Journey that is an amazing experience to get to right here, and we're we're thankful to have you in the studio honored to be here. Thanks for the invite. Well, I know that as I said, we've served on other nonprofit boards together and have really enjoyed seeing you come in and really ignite the core mission of individuals around the Word Servant Leadership. So thank you for your contribution to that. So. At Five thirty on main podcast you know Mike and I started this I don't know a couple of sessions ago and it's all built around Mike is an architect I'm a I guess a digital architect and Brand architect and we decided that word there was a a discussion that always came what was your consumer experience? What is the physical experience? How does that journey all come to be and we found that we use similar processes today, similar terminology, and all that as we like to get started with at five thirty on main what does the word experience me new? You honored to be here and thank you a little bit intimidated by being surrounded by. People of your caliber, appreciate the opportunity but. I think experience. To me is is the process of. With our environment that may encompass a relationship. It may encompass are interacting with a cell phone with our automobile but it is it is that that engagement and thank you for making me think about something that we don't. Think about a lot. Yeah. Yeah the the word experience just it. In today's society, it is so important it's really the core of any product any service. I hold up this mouse here. That is an apple device and. It has several predetermined to me qualities, traits and attributes, but it has nothing to do with the mouse. It was an experience that I was. Brought in into early on in my digital journey of a bran that meant something that had core values that was on the front end of of innovation and and that is in essence today I. Think no matter. It is designing a building or a space within a particular building or an addition or how do we add onto our consumer experience through digital how that place place together so You know how has. We talked a little bit before we got started about you. How we got right how we came to be sitting in her how we came to be sitting in these seats right right today. So how's your experience? Through life really through the academy through the Marine Corps do all that led you to today be here to talk about servant leadership and what it means to develop a leadership experience. Simple question. Do you want? The short answer or they think are we are we want the experience? Sure. I think that we are all shaped by. Our experiences probably in ways that we don't always appreciate and one of the things that I think happens as we mature and grow as as human beings. We become much more aware of what experience has done to us and how it shapes our engagement with the world and I. You know the the idea of going to the Naval Academy and then serving in the Marines and continuing to serve on the outside as a civilian has an attorney and as a member of this community, it all the way across all of those experiences was this idea of preparing myself for service There was. A sense that I wanted to find ways to test my who I was and what my capabilities were to develop into grow sewed that. I, could continue to serve. It. It turns out that the the Naval Academy was. I like to use a phrase I didn't make it up but really an intensive leadership laboratory it you put four thousand young men and women together in a on a campus. That is that has a mission of preparing leaders for service in the military and it is a it's it's a it's a very intensive experience in and quite a laboratory and really one of self discovery. But the whole focus all the way along was the sense that. In your I had to determine if it was real, you know what leadership meant and and is it related to this idea of service to another human being or to a mission or to an organization and I think I confirmed throughout the course of my experience at Annapolis and then my experience in the Marine Corps. And now in the civilian world that in that in fact is true. The. One of the things I confirmed along the way through. Experience and by the way I think the most effective meaningful kind of education is not just an academic of academic sort that can contribute it's experiential education. That's where that's where you're actually trying to apply the thing that you may learned from the book and and through feedback and success and failure your your morning about what really works but that whole journey was I think we're all on a kind of a journey of self discovery in a journey of testing journey of growth and it has all led. To try to stay on the same path of serving as a leader and understanding what it meant to what it means to lead. With that, you know when you start talking about that the first thing I think is loud. The stuff that's going on in our country the past year and everything like that and I feel like. I can read whatever but I can never understand the world through your eyes to Sean is. Our life shaped everybody. Else's does, and I feel like somewhere along the line we lost I have a different experience in life than you and I see it differently. Than you? That's okay. I can still have respect for you. I can still you know and how that experience? And when you talk about leadership to me, a good leader understands everybody in this room is different and we really got to start and have that conversation have that experience with each other before we can really engage on. You're wrong. I'm wrong kind of level of stuff that seem people WANNA do yeah. One of the one of the basic leadership principles we learn at the Through officer training in the Marine Corps was You know to know your people now them and that's more than just. Oh yeah that's Joe. That's you know. Whomever. It is to truly come to know where they come from what shaped them, what are their ambitions? What are their fears? What are they here to accomplish? Why are they attached to the mission? Only then. Can You I think effectively lead? By lead in, we can get a little bit more into this. Experience really what I learned over the course of those those many years both in and outside of the military is that. Leadership is all about our the way we engage how we relate to the depth of our relationship with another human being where we've got something in common where we are trying to accomplish a shared mission or. A shared purpose? That's when leadership is possible and it's not a top down thing it has nothing to do with title back. The world's full of people with titles that are not leading lead is a verb and its fundamental basis is about serving. And what I learned. Over the course of my years trying to pay attention and this I think is another thing about experiences about how we our level of attention we're paying to what's happening around us trying to be to be awake and to be open to what's happening is open heart open head open mind open. That's how you really learn when you're really in the middle of the experience and but it's that servant's heart that is at. The heart of poorly put but is at the heart. Of what it means to lead another human to influence them to move them in a way where they also are committed to what you're trying to accomplish and I think you know when you talk about design and you guys have really really got my wheels on this whole design concept. I love the idea of simplicity. Simple concepts which allow you to apply them in a multitude. Don't decision trees a lot of this happens. Let's go back to core core values. What is the mission who is as human being in front of me? How can we move in the direction of mission accomplishment and that's where you know with the Servant Leader Model, my teammate and I John Buford. We came up with this core leadership question, which is simple design simple. What's my best and highest role right now in this situation to serve my teammate in alignment with mission, it's my best and highest role. That's something that I could actually keep in mind regardless of the scenario and that guides. So again, from a design perspective when it comes to leadership simplicity is I think key and that's because that's a great crossover our world because. In my world, the hardest thing to teach people as. Simple A simple design. The Vietnam more always comes to mind a simple design will be more impactful, very powerful and the great greatest designed world are simple. They're not gaudy they don't have all this stuff. So, I always try to help people go back go back to the hand. I call them hands get if you can. Show. Your concept in a quick little sketch thing you get it but if you can't do that and it's probably the same thing leadership role like if you can't explain it. Took five year old you're probably overcomplicating it right I've heard that before very good that's that's well put and you think about new read heard the stories about apple and their home design, and it's all about intuitive and simplicity and just getting to where you don't need a training manual. They understand how to operate this device. They're already complex enough but I think it can be the case with human beings and are in a relationship with with another human being in which were. We're on the same team. We're trying to accomplish it in remember one of the things I always tried to stress with people as leadership is not something that we just do at work. We put on our Cape and we walk through the door and own right. I'm in charge or whatever the model is not the model. Leadership is about service about humility in it's about. Everything. We do. It's about how we show up in our life relationships. Although, we don't always measure up personal relationships, workplace community, all of these things. So you don't have this thing. Hey, I'm on I'm off on I'm off and I. Think when people get that and when they realize that it is about service and that it is lead as a verb about what am I doing what am I bringing to this situation regardless of the challenge for the severity of the challenge? So. I think when it comes leadership development and actually leading simplicity as a design element is just key simple practical clear. Yeah and through. The certification through giant that I've been through, you know we talk about there are five voices which do represented one percent of. The population Sixty over sixty percent of those made up by two. So I think one of the things that can be difficult is leaders is to number one. Know Yourself. and. Truly understand like. What me my nature and my seven percent healthy versus my thirty percent challenge in talk about support and challenge. What I'm really good at seventy percent of the time. What lifts me up there. There are four other categories that help support that. And, typically, what can happen? I, think through leadership roles, you learn about a lot about yourself, and then what can happen is you expect teams to fill those gaps without communicating said gaps so. Instead. Of looking at it going, you know I'm a creative pioneer I'm an I N T P in Myers Briggs three percent of the population actually have another one. I don't know how this happened sitting round across the table from me here Both. So. If, we want to influence others we have to I know what? It's like to be on the other side of us. We have to know that number one when we speak what we say the first time, it's typically not what we really meant to say it takes us three or four times to truly have individuals like guardians and nurturers to pull that information out of us to get to the specifics. But at times if let's say you might be a pioneer you could be out and say, Hey This is who I am why we go through that self discovery number one is you have to know yourself to lead yourself, and then we talk about five circles of influence after no yourself in order to influence your family in order for them to gain alignment and understand what are our family core values are and how we lead through them on how we pick one another up, and then that translate through the organization or the actual groups that we work for, and then it goes to organizations and that goes to our community. So all those things that we really WANNA do. Out in the community, all come back to knowing that I have what it looks like to be me on the other side of the mirror and how I communicate and really finding those. Individuals around me that lift me up and support from so that I can be in my seventy, which is completely different than Sean Georges Seventy and collectively we make I mean if we could look at leadership and say, all voices were represented in teams. If organizations today op I mean they're teams operated less than sixty percent of efficiency because they're typically led by about seventeen percent of the population giant or giant has the terminology of they have pioneers, connectors, and sometimes they're creatives leading organizations, which is I mean giant. When you look at the discussion of pioneer and connector, you're only talking about seventeen percent of the population and when when they speak heard and a majority of the ones they lead are of a quiet present mindset of whatever they said we need to follow, and then all of a sudden as they continue to lead without knowing the capacity and knowing what those others really want to contribute. Then you get to eighty percent of all teams feel like they're undervalued. So I think. One of the struggles in in that whole leadership. Role is actually just self knowing what your strengths are, what you bring to the table and then being able to empower those. Around you. To to lift them up and say, this is our mission. This is on point. This is where we're going to go and. It's a hard thing for people to look in the mirror and go man you know all these character traits that's really me, and this is what I have to work it that leadership piece doesn't get easier gets harder as you start to learn what those housing say actually I think it gets easier. The piece I always struggle with. When you're trying to lead someone as you can, you can see they're not being honest with themselves whether it's their capabilities or what they really want, and they're trying to be somebody they're not trying to get them to understand the cave you would just be true to yourself. It would be so much easier like you would really enjoy this a lot more. No I think you're right that that's a that's one of the big big challenges of leadership that that I. Think we we all face it again through depth the the authenticity of the relationship through the building of trust where people are open to feedback and and they're open to new experiences and. It can be done I. Think. I think we're finally moving away from the single leader top down nonsense that really was never leadership. That's more of a management model. How do I? You know efficiency and all of those things are are management ideas. This is about then I observe this in the Marine Corps observed it on the civilian side, the optimal model of performances one where you've got. In fact, virtually every member of the team capable of leading in the moment you've got this what I sometimes call a dance where you've got this you know leadership is a shared responsibility always mission focused always from servants perspective, but sometime following another's lead. On a particular issue or in a particular situation in the next moment, you could have initiative or leadership taken by another member of the team. If I have rank let's say I've got a title that is not threatening to me. That is all good I want to develop the leadership capabilities in my teammates. So that we we can accomplish the mission and so that we can perform at our highest level. So again, that simplicity, it's shared set of responsibilities back on servants perspective, you're bringing everything to the table that you can your mission aligned in. You're serving your teammate in in your best and highest way, and it could be a whole range of things. So as you're sort of designing your approach to leadership, it becomes something quite different to it becomes a very human. You know one of the things I kind of adopted is A phrase of Y- can't late without love and. May seem especially for marine. Gosh on that's real fuzzy kind of thinking. It's very human thinking what I observed even in in the Marines was some really tough human beings that that came across. Very, you know maybe tough ways heard ways I knew this I knew that behind that. And influencing all of that was someone who cared about me who wanted me to be better wanted me to be more effective and they were bringing what they had to the table. There was love behind that and and I think when we get away from love and and we start getting into some manipulative sort of things well. How do is incentivize behavior You know as an HR professional I really. Don't like those conversations. I think incentive plans bonus plans can get you so far but you know what? How about? Keeping people aligned with mission. How about saying thank you how about saying good job in a meaningful way what about looking at promotions training opportunities development we kind of we get into this manipulative business and I think we can get get off track. Well, it's going back to simplicity and I was I was trying to work with someone. 'CAUSE YOU BROUGHT UP We. And I was trying to work with someone that kept saying, I am me and it was like. Okay let's just do this. For me start saying we and stop seeing me and stop saying saying we will do this we will. I don't care if it's just you and the client in the room. Say. And your mind will shift tonight. You know whether it's conscious or unconscious. You're not putting that person down putting them in a corner that helps you all this work done. Right you're making them part of the process I think that it's just it's The days of leading from a position of power. Or over its influence, it's it's how you are influencing those around ewing, empowering them to to give their best and do their best whether you're in front or back this. As you said, the top down approach model the position of I have this title do what it is. It's served. It's it's time that we are to a a a day and age where influence is so important with those around you whether it be at home. You can undermine your influence at home. As you continue to promise to be at a ball game you know work becomes more important or whatever that is your all of it comes down to influence and are you are you putting in the time that you're putting in and you know same amount of putting into to bring yourself up and your skill set up as that support challenge back and forth goes and the more you lead by that influence. The better that experience is going to be on the other side of exactly, and that's why like this concept of thinking about leadership in terms of design and experience you know one of the fundamental questions you ask when you come onto a new team when you join a new team or maybe it's on a project or maybe it sir, you're entering a new chapter is is what is this experience going to be like? How will I be treated? What can I expect of you and of my teammates what what does this environment we're going to be operating in and going to be properly equipped and supported success look like how do we know when we get there just all it it's really very much about this experience. Am I going to be? Able to bring my best work to this thing we're trying to accomplish. In and related to that I think one of the leaders most important responsibilities is to create that environment. It's a creation of you know kind of you. Love. Your offices in your space here and they really communicate. You know it of gets your juices flowing in and makes you feel creative and. One of the things leaders have to think about is what kind of environment am I creating from a relationship perspective you know our my ideas welcome or we're going to be doing some cool things. Will I be appreciated for the special things or is this just hey, let's do what the boss says to do and that kind of team So this this design and creation of an environment is such an interesting idea a in a central responsibility I think of of leaders in the advertising and Marketing It was it was so easy to be in tactics. Every day it was, you know, what is you know what is the best crm tool in? What is are we going to build this on wordpress and is going to have a Wu Commerce? You know e commerce perfor-. You know is that going to be on there? Are we going to build a mobile APP and and what I found that we talked about so much was tactics, tactics tactics. Without what really needs to be at the top it needs to be a core mission envision. It absolutely needs to be backed by core values that has a well-equipped leadership team. That has the line strategy to implement those tactics and you know whether you have the capacity individually to do it yourself or you have the capacity financially to deliver to the team and supply the amount of training and all those things but it all feeds up to back to what is our mission? What is your vision? How's that supported by our core values, and then do we have leadership that's aligned? Does it simple? Does everybody aligned with it and do we have the capacity to implement the strategy that goes to the tactics and and I think you have been warned for today you're rolling out with your partner An organization that I have come to learn a little bit about this morning. Tell us a little bit about on mission shirt. Happy to thank you. On mission leadership. named. Again, this is myself, and John Buford lifelong friend former. Marine officer as well We feel that this is our life's mission. We are aligned with our mission so that hence the name. Our mission simple we aspired to equip and support leaders who are committed to their own intentional leadership journey. Again, the experience of learning how to lead. Few, of US get the opportunity to go to a structured program or to go to the Naval Academy or Whatever Marine Corps boot camp officer training whatever it is. We have to learn in the course of our life. So what we are. Our mission is related to giving them the tools and the perspectives simple key actionable practical perspective so that they can engage in their life. That's going to be their school. In an experiential education process so that they can develop and learn how to lead effectively in the course of their life through following through. Obtaining and engaging others as mentors and colleagues, and and through finding leadership opportunities. So really kicking this off, got a book that sentence final draft the summer will be shipping it off to some publishers see if if they will be. Interested, but it's really about developing a community of the. Leaders who are prepared to take on the responsibility to lead in their lives and it's not just a workplace thing. It's not a business saying it's a community thing it is. We are so excited about bringing just some real clear fundamentals to the table we talk about simple. Visuals communicate what on mission looks like you have a I see the logo on the printout but you also have an example here of of where that comes from. It's Tell us a little bit about that. We'll do As we were talking about. Both. The book and and the the business and kind of thinking about a logo think about the name my friend John. Buford who is Really a high level got a very high level of competence when it comes to everything from mountain climbing to I mean, this guy is just remarkable in the outdoors. And he came to me with this. Not He put does not together that was made of two ropes. One which is read one is below and I said what's that? He said he said it's called a Flemish bend. The said that's interesting and he he said, let me tell you about it. He said you know it's its purpose is to join two ropes of similar size. It's used in nautical applications mountain climbing. Where strength and reliability are paramount said, he wrote the way that's not as created as that. Each rope is it leads and follows the path of the other rope when it's dressed properly, the the strands do not cross each other. It takes time and effort. But if you properly dressed this not it doesn't need a backup and it doesn't need a safety not that will hold securely even if one rope becames personally undone. And then he said this and it just struck me he said the Flemish Bend. Serves a powerful metaphor for healthy teams. Healthy teams built on strong leader follower relationships where there is purpose interdependence, mutual support, equality, and strength. It's a beautiful not in it's a powerful metaphor and I said John that's it. That's our logo right there and it's a it's an interesting story and you know what we're trying to get to is to an authentic. The authenticity of leadership in the simplicity of leadership I think we've made it so complex and we just lost it in the whole course of our are learning how to deal with one another and really get back to basics applicable. You can apply this anywhere where if everyone had a basic concept of what it really means to lead and follow on a good teammate and accomplish the mission. We'd be so much. You start from that place just think of you could bring somebody on board that already had that basic understanding man we can. Let's run start running. What do you need from me and there's not a there's not. There's not a destination right I. Think. So many people will we're GONNA go through training And it's going to be done two months and then and then, and then we leave, and then there is no finish line as the Nike. That's right had. said. So so we're real excited. We think there's there's something really important to in this and hopefully some value another opportunity to serve. In the last chapter of my life. So. What was the timeline again for the book? Yes we are now working on the final review this summer hopefully end of July we're going to ship it off to a couple of publishers we've lined up that are interested in looking at it. title is the lace. Right now called your leadership journey a guide for those committed to becoming authentic servant leaders. So. We're excited about it. My Right. Well, you have some some good questions on on on we'll can't bring it back because I heard there was a couple of things I heard when you talked about but I'll as the one question, I always ask it and now you're putting together a book but what's the one product? The year or something you use every day that you're like this is. Really done well. Can Be simple complex but I think it's difficult to kind of help do the IPHONE. I've got one right here beside me. You know it's become such a part of our life. It's amazing that human beings are willing to carry around an electronic device in their hand or in a I mean I'm looking for the for the next iterations of this thing, but it's just remarkable and I am not a technically technologically advanced human being but Our lives have been so both for well, and for ill I think have been so shaped in transformed by having this thing that it's difficult to think of an example that's even more you know yeah I always always think of the. Movie Wargames Though Or. Whatever it was called. Now. It's in our pocket. Running it. And it wasn't that long ago. You don't feel it wasn't that long ago. Yes. We don't typically like a friction device around us, but that has become one that we've adopted very. Very well, and they've done a good job of developing and experience around it of what's inside of it and and how we connect. Now having said that. Both good and bad and I think that when our? Experience of the world. Kind of veers too far in this direction and is so dependent we lose something you know the the best leaders I've ever encountered. were. They were present when you were with them around them. They weren't sort of looking down or looking at or they were in the moment they were available to you. They were accessible. They were they were in the moment they were the experience they were were N and. My fear is that we are losing that we're going to lose that capability or that that emphasis. Leadership requires that we be present fully present with our teammates experiencing what they're experiencing so that we can help to to navigate fine our best and highest role. So. That's a little bit concerning. I. Also think from the learning perspective. I think that can in my life. and. Maybe there's just says something about how poorly my mind were expect. When I've always taken the approach of the deep dive into from experiential education. Not that that it's the best way or are not but you're in law school I wanted to read every single case outline every single case over the course of three years because I wanted the law to just seep out of my horse I didn't WanNa short circuit and just say, well, what's the tests going to be on right? So it's those kinds of four years at Annapolis, it was just a deep dive into into not just military leadership of what it means to be a part of a team and and to to bring something of value and and to follow and lead, and I just wanted that deep immersion experience and I hope we don't get too. Focused on or too far away from having the immersion education I. Worry about that a lot As. People know that know me know that technology's been a big part and I can remember when I had my first trio win. Goodness like Alan free. I can work from anywhere between. Here here here and I didn't realize I was young and really just innovation was was was there and I thought this meant I could be here and now my office was now mobile and I looked forward to when you know as laptops progressed and hopefully knowing that tablets would be there. But I I have a fourteen year old and a ten year old and. I do worry that they. I don't know if I worry because I am now older. and. And care about that human interaction that I once did not. I mean, I tried to build more more more more. From you know I grew up in digital. Digital Native I was one of the first to say you know web was important and mobile's important and he was able to see when the. FIRST DOT com crash happened second one. And we continue to create more experiences but when I Get to the point the. When I'm in my vehicle driving home with my son and his teammates from a baseball practice or a tournament game. There is no interaction there. And I turn around and say, don't you guys talk like you listen this is music. What do you think about these late like, Hey, what's going on in there like? Work Communicate Right now you talking using. How about and how red eye that gap that is developed so quickly I think you and I talked a little bit about earlier is when it comes to leadership and the leadership experience. It is a balance I think. But how do how do we form the knowledge there as? We needed in business today. Yes. Here's a here's a quick story. This just happened zoom meeting. What one of my one of my directors was having a zoom meeting with her team, and so as know, you can either turn on the camera or not see people's faces or not. Background yeah what does one. Well one of an I'm not sure how many of her her teammates had their their camera on but one in particular did not have the cameron so couldn't see her face but this director. was observing just. Something is a mess either the inner her energy level from what she was saying was low or she just wasn't quite being herself and this director said to her her teammates you said, Hey, would you please turn on your camera? I want to see you I want to make virtual I contact with you because she had an intuition that something might be off. They did that and and. Through that and after the meeting was a follow up conversation between the director and and her team made and it surfaced some issues that were going on but. I liked the phrase. high-tech but high touch we can't lose can't just be a behavior riches, call it in do zoom meetings all day long and you've got to have that human element at some level even if it's remote but her intuition led her to believe that you know what there's. There's something going on, but she followed through on it and I think that's what good leaders within. It's interesting that you say that because Mike and I were talking yesterday about this podcast and this time of covid nineteen. Indiana being back on track and and being out in being able to be in the workplace and doing things like we're doing in our studio. Today, we had this initially scheduled to be zoom. and. You called me yesterday and said, you know what I think the experience would be much better served if we have that energy in the room and it had it was amazing that I listened to that voicemail literally two minutes after Mike had left from our giant discussion and we were. It was I'm getting the feedback from individuals that they don't want to be on Zoom podcast. They WANNA feel the energy in the room. In the studio and and and today we're in here as of it was supposed to be twenty four hours ago it was going to be on zoom call from everybody's office or home or wherever they were working but we came together here because it does. Bring that that high touch and you can read the room and you can't feel the room and know that We've done one over web are over the zoom. Platform. And it wasn't as? Interactive. It you the individuals looking at a camera looking at themselves. Then when you talk about looking at you on the other side and in what you're saying and how you're being used to read into all that stuff well a lot it too you're talking. You're talking into computers or you feel like I mean honestly when you do these meanings. You don't really feel like you're talking to someone and you don't have that moment where you forget. Like where you are you're talking. You're always like I'm on a computer like. What else can I get done? What else is popping up? You know in the background it's interesting and and in these these times in which we live and you know I think there have always been challenging times but Leadership is is necessary now and when you think about what people are going through and especially your teams in your teammates and if they are operating remotely. Even more. It's even of greater necessity that you communicate that you share information that you ask how make sure it's a two way street near drawing them in how you doing what's your life like right now what's what's in the way? What's going? Well, what's going poorly? and. Even some of the tough conversations that are happening now around issues of race and who we are as a society and and who we want to be and what we need to be those are ones that are I think really important that we have that kind of one on one really intimate authentic kind of communication with with our teammates. Again, leaders have to take all that on a and I think some people say, well, leadership is a lonely place then they're doing it wrong. Because you're not engaged leadership is about. With others, it's ads about supporting your teammates. That's. about engaging it's about all of the involvement. So in any event, so I would like to know as an architect, you know spatial my world living this three. Three To. Some I'm curious 'cause you brought up the hard marines but they're still people right there. Get Emotional. I saw my dad do that. What's a space or place you've been to? That? Makes you emotional? Absolutely no question. It's a yard, the grounds of the Naval Academy in Annapolis. Spent four years there, and and again that immersion experience was a different going in at the age of eighteen leaving four years later, transformation had happened. Because I. gave everything I had during those four years. It it is. And the interesting thing when you think about design and I actually brought a little map of the of course, every sidewalk, every building, every monument, every almost brick in that on that entire. On that entire campus has a story in a name attached and sort of lessons to be learned from it, and of course, you had to learn all that stuff but. There it is emotional to me. It's not just what it stands for but my experience there I love going back. But I also remembered the the difficult times and the in the challenges in the trials, but ultimately the the success of having graduated. Never forget this release strange moment I had I was it was my senior year I was. Winter in remember looking out the window up on the fourth floor, the of what they call Bancroft Hall and I'm looking out the window and. Looking out into the courtyard and onto the campus and I thought this is almost over. And then I had that realization. You know I guess it's just common sense that you want I didn't change a single thing of. Like, I could have but not a single brick has been changed or transformed by me being there and not a single I haven't changed anything but it has changed me dramatically and so yeah, there's a fair amount of emotion involved in in now it's funny. You bring up the history of the buildings and all the pieces and felt like that's when we start talking about going to college or not going to college and. I learned this later in life after college actually. What you said, you go to college become who you're going to be that shapes you being their shapes you as much as what you learn there. Right it's not just about going and getting this degree and getting out and making money. It's about the experience you're having because that's at a timing, your life where you're a lot of people are changing from being children. To their adult life that transition yeah hopefully. Not everyone doesn't always work but I think a lot of people they take it for granted you know and so yeah become just kind of the next next thing you have to go out and it doesn't bother. The next person or they're just a person on this campus and you know even for whether you go to college or not or. I think making making experiences approaching experiences in an intentional way and and with a high level of awareness can transform those experiences even if it's something that is gonna be hard. But to know that, you know what I'm going to go through this this is going to be hard and it's going to hurt but I am going to learn from the experience and I'm I'm going to be aware my head's going to be up and we're going to walk down this road and I'm GONNA come out of it somehow transformed hopefully in a positive way I think again A. experiential education and and when we as human beings can can really take responsibility for designing that experience picking the ones we want. To you know again, you don't get to pick everything happens to you in life, but you can't just the other day I got a phone call from someone who said Sean I would like for you for you to be a mentor to me and I said Wow honored and humbled. What do you see that looking like what do you mean when you say mentor? How would we design it how? But then I said when we were done by the way I agreed I said to him I said, listen what you've done your merely reaching out. And engaging me as a mentor is is that that is the kind of design of our experience and our education and our development that people can do. We can lean on one another for how we grow and develop or we can just stay in our lane and maybe hope somebody comes along or. Just stumble through the darkness. Our ideas to turn a fractured set of accidental experiences when it comes to leading and following into and we all had those into an intentional. An intentional path that we can help develop of experiences in relationships to make us better leaders so As you lean into, you know the. Next half of two thousand twenty. What's one thing that you hope to experience? As we. Get to the middle. Of the year here to the end, what are you looking forward to I think on on a on a broader scale on the big big scale I I hope that relationships are built conversations, occur understandings, grow among among people in the citizens in this in this country, all the way along I hope we come to know and respect each other at at a higher level I. Hope we keep moving towards the realization of what this country could be that we've fallen short. I think in in some ways along the way I think we've done done many things very well, but we've got room to to develop and grow I. I look forward to seeing the the level of relationships and. The depth of discussion along along the way happening. Honestly in the next six months I also hope that our book is published I. Hope that we're able to start a conversation through on line and otherwise, and through programs in which people realize that they can lead that they need to lead that when they aren't stepping into their leadership responsibility there leaving a void. and. It's every family gets every workplace. It's every community it's every. Interaction were we were trying to accomplish something with another person. So trying to shape the discussion and the understanding of what it means to lead I guess that may be a lofty goal but. Hopefully a realistic optimist I know that there are a lot of things that that there's a lot of progress at needs to be made but I also think that ultimately we get there and believer discussion you know if it can be described, it can be done. Just how we facilitate that conversation as a whole community have every voice at the table. Absolutely achievable. We are right now at nearly an hour into our conversation. We usually ask one more question. So the listeners can get to to know our guest a little more if there was Sean, if there was one brand product or person that you think has the most holistic consumer experience today is there one thing person or brand that comes to mind of course on Marines? So I'd said the United States Marine Corps. That's probably not what you're looking for I. Mean you know the practical? The practical examples around us. So the ones that have so impacted, our lives you know Amazon and and and Apple, but I want. Sort of the promise that is. The United States of America. To become that thing I want that to. What it means, what it can mean and It does mean. Both the obligations and responsibilities. To be balanced with the rights and the all of the good things that we get out of. Being citizens in this country and I'm looking for you know I'm. Not, really a more focused on that then commercial commercially related things but. I don't want to call it a bran, but the experience in the promise to keep moving in the direction of its realization. Awesome. So Mike. Any closing questions before we wrap up this now thirty on exciting? Yeah. Really like the song mission leadership. You guys come up with I can't wait to read it. I think it'd be cool. Read a Lotta different leadership books and. I always find the military. Leaders brought up the Military Marines dinner I've been any military leader. You know that that brings talks about leadership I always find it very impactful because you're talking centuries of trying to get it right and a Lotta tradition I. think that's where people are going to be surprised if they don't know it's it's not about ordering people around that's. The stuff you see in the movies, it is literally about serving your your team may taking care of your marines. Leaders eat last as when those phrases that the Marine Corps is had as a part of its lexicon for. For probably a couple of couple of centuries and it means a lot that was really the big discovery for me doesn't translate into the civilian world and after twenty years I can tell that it does. So absolutely how do How do they at five thirty on main listeners connect with you? Sean. Oh great question Website is still coming up so we're still working on that but certainly a An email. Yeah. So that would be s. m. as in Mike Sierra Mike Georgia's Gao Orgy Es. That's at G MAIL DOT COM. What about are you on lengthen? Yes. On social media platform that is the extent of my social media presence linked in you can find me they're. Happy. To engage look forward to serving there's anything I can do for for anyone any conversations you WanNa have discussions follow up on. I have never declined. A single invitation to either speak or listen about leadership. So it's a real passion. Thank you. Yeah. 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Ep. 896 Did You Miss This Stunning Revelation Yesterday?

The Dan Bongino Show

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Ep. 896 Did You Miss This Stunning Revelation Yesterday?

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show. That's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan bongino. Boy a show for you today. Folks. Do not go anywhere. Do not turn off the show. Do not delay the show do not pause the show. And listen to the end matter of fact, I've got such a show for you today. I did something I never do. I didn't even brief Joe before the show right Joe because I want Joe is not a joke. Watchos oddest reaction. It is all now coming together finally beautifully. Don't go anywhere. Welcome to the Dan Bongino show producer Joe. How are you today? We will control your vertical, we will control your. The outrageous limit. Yeah. Remember that? Yeah. No diggity, no doubt. We are on today. Stunning. New piece yesterday at the epoch times about George popadopoulos. And some folks reached out to me, you know, who you are. And a couple of other folks from the media reached out yesterday as well. 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Let's go back to the August of twenty sixteen texts about the insurance policy detects from Peter stroke, the lead investigator to his girlfriend at the time. Lisa page. They are both senior FBI officials at the management level one on the legal side one on the investigative side. They are having an extramarital affair with each other. They're texting each other their text messages are exposed on July twenty seventh. July twenty seventh is when the inspector general essentially, the internal affairs agent for the government investigating what's going on with the Clinton Email case finds these emails and notifies special counsel. Bob Muller on July twenty seventh right on July twenty seventh. Joe follow me here on July twenty seven twenty sixteen just to be clear the back and forth Email exchanges in the text messages. One of them which was about an insurance policy the insurance policy, basically to get rid of Donald Trump. Remember that tax folks? Yeah. These FBI we're talking about insurance policy. Nobody knew what the insurance policy was it now is all coming together. Thanks to the epoch times piece. Pieces in the show notes today for you to read and follow along. If you want to pick it up right now. On July twenty seven th of twenty seventeen a number of critical things happen in this election. The inspector general Joe who is investigating FBI misdeeds in the Clinton investigation. The inspector general notifies, Bob Muller. We've got a problem. These two people involved in the investigation both of Hillary Clinton. And of Donald Trump are texting each other. Here are the texts, and they are devastating. They're talking about an insurance policy to get rid of Trump. How Trump is. I can't even use the words because they're expletives is is a is a blank is a is a D his they smell his reporters. Excuse me, his followers. You could smell them in the WalMart. These are devastating. Tex. The inspector general knows they got a problem and Bob Muller figures it out to July twenty seventh follow this timeline. It is absolutely critical. Now. Thanks to a good source. I've had that's been been a let's say assisting for a while Joe. A couple of other things happen on July twenty seven so July twenty seven twenty seventeen is the day. Bob Muller figures out his lead investigator in the Trump case is a dog, Peter stroke. He also figures out that they were the people deeply involved in the Hillary Clinton case. And they are they are corrupted by these texts there's no way they can credibly testify, right? Now, Joe what else happens on July twenty seven twenty seventeen. Thanks, buddy. You and I've talked about this before. Now, you're the producers your job to keep these dates of your there. But when I say, I know you remember it. Someone gets arrested on July twenty seven twenty seventeen in a hurry up arrests that Dulles airport that would that top d. Yeah. Property George Papa D in a quickie arrest. We're still not sure if there was a rest warrant issued at the time it seems like it was a PC arrest probable cause arrest at Dulles airport. Why does that matter it matters on that day on July twenty seventh because ladies and gentlemen, having been a federal agent. I'm telling you probable cause arrests. In other words, arrests not based on an arrest warrant, I the only way I can explain it to you is police officers make arrests all the time. When a police officer sees a street fight between Joey bag a donuts and Bobby bag a donuts and he makes the arrest. There's no arrest warrant they didn't go to a judge and talk about the fight and get an arrest warrant wide because it was based on probable cause what the officers saw in their presence. You Joe you tracking up big time. I've said to you repeatedly. If you're a regular listener to the show that on the federal agents side, not the local policing side. Right. But on the federal side of the ledger. These. Arrests are extremely uncommon. Judges don't like them, the US Marshall service doesn't like them. They want the paperwork in advance. If possible it's not illegal. It is it is perfectly ethical moral and legal to make a PC arrests. I'm simply telling you Joe. And this is an important point. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm telling you from an insider's perspective, it is simply unusual. They don't like them it. It administratively complicates arrests. Judges don't like them the predictability the arrest goes out the window. They would much rather have an arrest warrant in their hands in advance. So with the Marshall service again, not illegal not on ethical. But I'm telling you from experience extremely uncommon. Because in the federal side. You don't you're not a patrol officer. You don't just happen. Upon a crime is an FBI agent on the way, home you copy, Joe that's not your job, right? The police officers who I was with the just happened to fall into observing a crime Tonge turned a corner on the street at guys Robin someone getting a foot pursuit you arrest them. So time to call a judge for a warrant. That's not the way the federal system works. You get a tip you investigate the tip. You present your investigative results to an assistant United States attorney. They drop a complaint or they an indictment is issued an arrest warrants issued. Then you go get your guy. That's how it works in the federal system. Probable cause. Hurry up arrests are extremely rare. What was the hurry on July twenty seven to get popadopoulos? We'll get to that. In a second. I always say remember the names Joe remember the date July twenty seven so we now have two things on July twenty seven we now have Bob Mueller special counsel, which hunting Donald Trump being notified that his lead. Investigators are corrupted. There's a hurry up arrests that the airport of George popadopoulos. Why the hurry? He needs to shut someone up. Couple of other things happen on July twenty seven and I can't thank this source enough. This was brilliant. Joe don't you find it awfully convenient that? They Republican members of the house that were investigating all of the malfeasance and misdeeds that went on in the FBI against Donald Trump and four Hillary Clinton in the shelving of her Email case, do you know, h I'll just let me ask you a question. You don't know the Dayton advance. But let me based on the conversation. We're having now the house GOP issues a urgent call via letter for a special counsel to investigate the FBI. What date do you think that happened on? Let me just throw that out here. The say July twenty seven was going to say that then you took the words right out of my mouth baby that that's a great cast show at you'd be right? Joe's right again with a widow chicken. Do all of a sudden on July twenty seven Muller finds out. His team is corrupted popadopoulos gets hurried up arrested at the Dulles airport on on what we believe to be a PC arrests, very unusual and the house GOP issues this urgent letter calling for a special counsel into misdeeds by the FBI during their Trump and Clinton investigation. Oh, gets better. You'll told you go anywhere. I could see the look on your face and pointing at him right now, do our new high tech video connection. Okay. What else happens on July twenty seventh? Well, there's an interesting article that appears in circa, but which is a news type newsy type outfit. I think a couple of people at the at the hill and folks used to work there, but circus kind of like the hill or axios. Joe an article appears in circa on July twenty seven twenty seventeen. How what's that article about something we talked about during this week? So I think it was Monday or Tuesday show. Joe the article is about elite lawyer for the FBI who's in a lot of trouble, buddy. Whole lot of trouble. Let me read to you. The headline of this piece from July twenty seventh twenty seventeen. Exclusive a top FBI lawyer is allegedly under an investigation for leaking classified information to the media. Who's that lawyer James Baker the guy we found out this week on Monday is under criminal investigation. But we found out July twenty seven twenty seventeen. Didn't we? All on the same day. Now. Let me read you a quote for ominous tie this all to get don't go anywhere. This is from the July twenty seven twenty seventeen circa Ps three sources with knowledge of the investigation told circa that James Baker is the top suspect in an ongoing leak investigation circus, not been able to confirm the details of what national security information or material was allegedly leak. All this gets Chris gets better. Joe? A law enforcement official with knowledge of the internal investigation in the bureau told circa the bureau is scouring for leakers. And there's been a lot of investigations all these people at their nothing's going on Trump's not doing anything, you sure about that. This was July two seven of twenty seventeen. It gets better skip to the next paragraph. James Baker is a close confidante of former FBI director, James Komi. And Mason media reports suggest he was reportedly advising the then FBI director on legal matters following private meetings to former director had in February with President Trump in the Oval Office. That is a kind of make sense why when I gave that viral speech at the breakers a few months ago, I kept telling you that the three letter agency people are in a world of trouble because there's a paper trail is it starting to come together. James Baker the one of the head lawyers in the FBI, according to circus owner, not some right wing outlet. A close confidant of Jim Komi, deeply implicated in giving Komi legal advice legal advice on his conversations and the memos. He drafted on his conversations with Trump was being investigated for criminal leaks. Criminal leaks. Conveniently someone leaks this to circa on July twenty seven twenty seventeen. Now, some of you more entrepreneurial types out there who've been following this case in the beginning, maybe putting together what's happening here. If you haven't no worries I get it. You know, you all have jobs you work for a living, and you work hard. You don't have time to study every detail is my job is to do it for you though. And I'm honored to fit that role. Folks, it's clear as day July twenty seventeen twenty seventeen is the day that this this political civil war within the government? The spark was lit and the dynamite. One off. My guess is what happened on July twenty seventh twenty seventeen is that the administration and people got on the inside figured something out quickly. They figured out that the spying operation into Donald Trump was an effort to flip sources to get them to work. Why? While Donald Trump was president. Who was that person? They likely tried to flip that right around July, the time this probably all came together. Well, let me say let me say this show it probably came together long before July twenty seven twenty seventeen the July twenty seven twenty seventeen day matters, though. Because clearly at that point the I g the inspector general investigating the sole team had figured out that the to lead investigators by that time he had figured out. They were corrupted and decided it was time to notify Muller. Someone in the administration likely figured out that Muller was then going to double down Muller was then going to try to cover their tracks. Someone in the Trump administration likely figured out. They were going. To have to get ahead of this narrative Joe that the bureau and the special counsel, we're going to work to try to clean up the mess. What's the mess Joe? And if doesn't make sense, please stop me, the messes clear they were trying to flip popadopoulos the FBI as an insurance policy, hoping he got an appointment within the Trump administration to use a spy on Donald Trump and an imbed while he was president of the United States and the plan completely blew up. That's going to be part to this, dude. You get where I'm going with this inspector general sees the texts. He knows what's going on somebody in the administration figures out now Muller's gonna find out they're going to tell Muller on July twenty seven hey, buddy, your to lead guys investigating. This thing shoes me your lead guy and his girlfriend texted the whole plan to flip a spy inside the Trump administration, you better figure this thing out Muller panics. What do they do the guy? They were trying to flip as popadopoulos. This epoch times piece. You've got to read it. Illuminating to whole scam gets exposed gets exposed on the twenty-seven. They know about it in advance. Please tell me you're tracking with if they rushed to the airport to pick up popadopoulos to arrest him the shut him up. They engage in a PC last minute arrest with no Warren. They bring them in at something like one forty five AM the following calendar day, which almost never happens unless it's an emergency situation or violent crime the marshalls. Don't wanna see you at one forty five in the morning. There's not even a sitting magistrate judge to do the initial hearing at that time unless it's an emergency. Something happened. What happened is their entire scam? To flip a spy to get an informant within the Trump administration that person I believe being popadopoulos was completely exposed Muller knew it, and they panicked. The administration. The Trump administration knows the Muller team is going to panic and to get out ahead of them. Somebody leaks to the media notably circa at that time that the FBI's lead lawyer who was advising Jim Komi. This entire time that the F B I lawyer himself is under investigation for criminal leaks himself a criminal leak conspiracy to the media to again gaslight the public to prepare them for the fact that they want to impeach Trump on false information. I let me I didn't explain that. Well enough the whole strategy because they didn't have collusion conspiracy. They only had a collusion fairytale was to get the fairytale out into the media and embedded into the public psyche so much so Joe that the public pressure built for impeachment before the fact that the story was fake was exposed right? In other words, tell the story that Joe Armacost is an alien so many times through the media and the public that by the time it's exposed that. Joe is in fact, a human. Being it doesn't matter. They've been gas literati and try and Joe's already in jail or in Trump's case impeached. So the Trump team sm- someone in there. I'm not sure how much of this Trump even knew by the way, but someone within the Trump administration leaks out to the media via circa on July twenty seven to prepare the public for the fact that these guys are frauds their stories been ally that this guy bakers under criminal investigation for felony leaks to the media. Do you see what this happened what's happening here? Joe? It's somebody July twenty seven is the spark somebody lights the fuse for the stick of dynamite. That is going to go off on July twenty seven they know it and the the becomes a back and forth. Tit for tat Muller goes and has popadopoulos locked up at the airport on a rush PC arrest to shut him up because he doesn't want popadopoulos talking about the efforts to flip him to get him to work against the Trump administration. Why not show obviously because the Democrats and the liberal media don't want the story out there that they tried to recruit a spy to work in the Trump administration for a sitting president bay. Based on a false story. Is this incredible? At this. Same day, the house GOP investigating this the Republicans who've been read in on this who know the whole story Joe that they tried to flip popadopoulos the bureau that is calls for a second special counsel look into this. This cannot be a coincidence. You know, the leak the popadopoulos arrest and the house GOP calling for a second special counsel. This is not a coincidence. This is all on the same day. This is the day the stuff hits the fan. Clearly people who were not reading on the back story here. Are failing to put this together. And I want to really applaud a couple of the folks out there who been amazing who have been doing a lot of this stuff as well. You know, it's a whole bunch of stuff going on that all comes together here, Dan. But on top of that, it's almost surreal because this isn't supposed to happen in the United States, and it's really really hard to grasp man really to be a constitutional Republic. Joe? This is supposed to be a country that respects big our God, given right? Yes. That's not what happened here. That's the weaponization and abuses by the FBI and the icy the intelligence community here are legion. It is disgusting. What happened here? Yeah. Now, what were they covering on July twenty seven so part of this show? Are I twenty minutes was setting you up for this this critical piece in the epoch times yesterday. Part of the show describes on July twenty th how this entire scam scheme is exposed Muller panics because now he knows lead. Investigators texts have exposed the efforts to spy on the Trump team and Trump while he's in the White House to get some spies to get some informants. I should say to be more precise in my terminology Muller. Panics the house GOP freaks out, and the Trump administration someone within it leaks out the story to get ahead of this that Baker and Komi are frauds to and have been a part of this thing. What were they hiding folks? It all goes back to the August. Twenty twenty sixteen text by page, two stroke, how I opened up the show about the insurance policy. That think about as an insurance policy in case you die before your forty. You whatever stroke says there everybody's been wondering and a lot of the house GOP members who are read in on. This new Ness, Jordan and others have consistently focused on this Texas being a source for trouble for the FBI. Joe what was the insurance policy the FBI agent leading an investigation and Trump what insurance policy where they talking about. It seems crystal clear right now Joe part. Let's move a transition apart be the show that that insurance policy was an effort to flip George popadopoulos against Donald Trump that failed and failed miserably. Let me walk you through this. George popadopoulos is interviewed on January twenty seven he's interviewed on January twenty seven th of twenty seventeen by the FBI. He's interviewed again on in February. February sixteen. He's interviewed again. And in the statement of offense, they used to charge popadopoulos. They say that popadopoulos reiterated his claims that he wanted to help the FBI reiterated Joe, meaning it was interrupted the first time. Yeah. Meaning what Joe on their initial January twenty seventh interview of George popadopoulos. There was likely some type of formal or informal cooperation arrangement made between George popadopoulos and the FBI. Gotcha something previously. Let's say not disclosed or not disclosed in any detail. What the heck is going on here folks who was popadopoulos cooperating against why the rush to interview again on February sixteenth, what happened at the February sixteenth meeting where popadopoulos and the article describes the FBI storming out of their anger. What happened? Folks, they were playing popadopoulos and myth sued against each other. It's so obvious. Now, it's clear as day the sun funds, finally come up. The FBI needed a source within the Trump campaign. They interview him January twenty seven seven days after Trump is inaugurated president. Now, if you notice in the statement of offense against popadopoulos Muller's own statement of offense charging popadopoulos with false statements for the FBI the timeline Trump's jumps around dramatically it jumps around from August, all the way to January. Now, John Salman is brought this up at the hill. And I brought this up on the show months ago. We remember Joe now Solomon said a while ago. Solomon knows the whole story. Solomon is another piece of my show notes today that I'm hoping to get through. That's another bombshell. But Solomon has made a key. Tenet of his presentation on the Hannity show at night when he does his appearances of this broken time line with top popadopoulos to how the FBI seems to show interest in popadopoulos in August of two thousand sixteen and shows no interest with him again, all the way until January of two thousand seventeen after Trump is president, ladies and gentlemen, if the FBI story is accurate that they started investigating Donald Trump because of George popadopoulos is meeting with Alexander Downer. The US strean Basser the United Kingdom where the topic of allegedly emails comes up Hillary Clinton's emails on the Russians. If that was the impetus for the investigation all the way back in the in the summer and spring of twenty sixteen how the heck is the statement of offense. Have this missing block of time from the summer of two thousand sixteen all the way till January of twenty seventeen and the is clear as day. The answer is this had nothing to do with popadopoulos. This was an FBI effort to spy on the Trump team that fell apart after the effort fell apart. When Trump was when wins the presidency, folks, they panic they try to go back to Christopher Steele. As we saw with yesterday's show that Bruce ores asked to reconnect with Christopher Steele after he's been fired by the FBI. And after Jim Komi gets fired why because Andy McCabe, the number to the takes over the FBI panics. He freaks out. He's intimately involved in this whole thing. He will do anything to make sure they can nail Donald Trump and cover up his misdeeds Joe. So what does he do? He gets desperately. He goes back to Christopher Steele and asked Bruce ore to connect with the author of the fake dossier to get more fake information. They can hopefully leak to the media to put public pressure on the public to support impeachment thing against Trump to get rid of him. What did they also do? The popadopoulos time makes sense now popadopoulos had nothing to do with it. He was just in the spring and summer. He's just another spoke on the wheel of this massive spying operation. The Obama teams that conducting against the Trump team. But what happens in January, Joe, nothing's working out for them all of their supposed- angles and evidence points and bullet points and data points showing the Trump colluded with the Russians turn out to be false the dossier. Everything turns out to be fake, they panic. They try to reconnect with steel the steel connection doesn't work because they can't hide it to reconnection. They've already fired him deeming them not suitable for us. So what do they do? They got to go back to another person and flip a mess. An informant who is that person. And why does he appear in January twenty seven because it's George popadopoulos. They think they've got something on them, and it's seven days after the election. They freak out. Joe? Nothing's working. Donald Trump is the president. They need to get rid of him. Komi this entire Kabbalah at the FBI needs to make sure they can get somebody on the inside of this Trump team somebody, but they need somebody who's dirty a little bit who they think is dirty. Now, why would they need someone who's dirty to work for them Joe or they think sturdier can dirty up? Well, let let me ask you a simple question because I'm sure someone home at the audience or asking the same certainly Daniel. Well, why would pop adopt this work for the FBI? The FBI came up to you today and asked you to be an informant on a crime that never happened. Would you agree? On a crime that never happened. No, probably not. How? But what if the FBI came to you Joe, and you were shady on whether this happened or not, you're not really sure. But they say Joe, listen, we're going to take away little Joe we have evidence you've been engaged in a in intriguing with the Russians would you consider. They might have like ten thousand dollars. They want to hold over my head or something. Yeah, ammo, yes. You know, what I'm very you. So that ten thousand dollars free. I know where you're going with this, brother. Yes of they needed. They it's now clear they played popadopoulos amid suit against one another. Remember the popadopoulos myth Soudan connection back in April of the prior year? Popadopoulos is alleged to have he meets with Susanna. He did meet with MS Suba. The allegations of what happened at this meeting with Joseph miss sued are the key component of the entire FBI case against popadopoulos. Please man, I hope you're following me. I actually prayed before the show, I'm not kidding God allow me to speak with clarity precision and some wit here. I know you did inspire me put the thoughts in my head and the words on my tongue. So you'll understand what's going on. Because this is so devastating the year before popadopoulos who keep in mind is just these small spoke in a massive operation spy on Donald Trump through unmasking do targeting Mike Flynn targeting any foreign calls by the Trump administration misuse of the NSA database misuse of the FIS accords targeting Carter page the to hop rule. The are all spokes in a major keep the thirty thousand foot sixty thousand foot hundred twenty thousand foot view in your head. It is a major operation by sitting president. Is everything? It is disposal to spy on Trump popadopoulos is a small spoken this wheel. This small spoke does not work out. They abandoned it. The abandoned it in the summer, they come back to it. After Trump is president because they don't have anything else. Every other angle they pursued Carter page unmasking. Mike flynn. None of it's working out. None of it. They have to get rid of Trump. So what happens will you have to understand popadopoulos a spoke. I when you look at the statement of offense against popadopoulos and popadopoulos interview yesterday with epoch times. It's crystal clear what went on here. Let me read to you from the epochs times piece yesterday because there's an explosive new allegation. Pieces in the show notes. This is mandatory reading. Quote, epoch times in a previously undisclosed interaction with the FBI. An FBI agent asked popadopoulos to wear a wire to record Mifsud, according to the transcript the offer occurred at a cafe in Chicago on or around January thirty first 2017 just days after popadopoulos is first interview with two F B I agents on January twenty seven popadopoulos without a lawyer met this loan FBI agent, one of the two interviewed him days earlier who asked popadopoulos to travel to London again and told him he would get a glimpse into the operation from behind the scenes. They tried to flip this guy. Now, again, do you entrepreneurial investigators out there who've been listening to this show for a while you've been saying, well, Dan, I thought you you've been indicating for awhile that myth sued was a western intelligence asset. So let's explain what happens in the prior year popadopoulos this foreign foreign policy adviser for the Trump team at a low level granted he's asked to meet with this this multi professor Joseph Soudan, April. The prior year, it is alleged that myth sued is the one who tells popadopoulos that the Russians may have emails on Hillary, ladies and gentlemen, that point is key. I believe popadopoulos was the subject of a targeted F B I investigation and FBI investigation to rope. Trump team members into a conspiracy to hack into Hillary's emails by the Russians. How do they do that? They pushed the information into the Trump team, and they see what they do with it. They're monitoring them. They're clearly looking for ffices there clearly using the NSA database. They want the Trump team to talk about Joe information. They got from other people about Hillary's emails and the Russian right? They need this because they need to rope them into the spying operation and use it as material to leak to the media before the election. And God forbid after the election of Trump gets elected to use them for a payment. Are you tracking me now if you are tracking at home, you may be saying, well, Dan has Masud working within our intelligence or partners in London or as popadopoulos because why would the FBI then ask popadopoulos to wear a wire against them if certain. Ladies and gentlemen, it's distinctly possible. That not all parties are talking to each other here. Myth sued may have been working with western intelligence partners. While the law enforcement side of it. The bureau may have initially been unaware of this. Remember, Lisa pages commentary from yesterday, her testimony up on the hill was exposed and page seems adamant that they did not know about the dossier until September of two thousand sixteen but it's clear as day now that John Brennan knew about it earlier. And it's also clear as from John Salomon's peace now, which you read in the hill today that Andy Weissman Muller's bulldog and others when he was with the Justice department clearly knew that this information was coming from Steele a corrupted source way before the FBI's alleging they found out about it in September. I know it gets confusing here. I must listen to this twice as the ombudsman. It is a load of information to process gosh. It is Joe, but it's so critical. I let me explain this to you. Again. They're trying to set up popadopoulos in in the spring of twenty sixteen because he's a member of the Trump team. They push onto him information from Mifsud about Russian emails being emails from Hillary being held by the Russians in an effort to get popadopoulos to play ball with it to contact people on the Trump team. Hey, this is great. Look the Russians are going to work with us and get us. Hillary's emails. You follow that point? You you tell me, please. Tell me you do. Okay. It's a setup. I'm suggesting to you that that's setup may have been an icy setup by people in the intelligence community working with five eyes partners in an effort to set up a member of the Trump team to do what to leak that information to the media if popadopoulos plays ball, look the Trump team wants to work with the Russians to get Hillary's emails in an effort to do two things at the same time. Joe? In an effort to undercut the Trump team credibility, and Secondly to make the Hillary Email scandal go away by making it look like it's a foreign operation with Trump you track any time. That's step one needed to recap, dude. Okay. Good and feel free to start this one. You're here. Well, you here for other reasons too. But that's your biggest that's your most important role. Folks, step one doesn't work because popadopoulos doesn't play ball. He doesn't do anything. We criminal with the investigation start conspiring with the Trump team to reach out to Russian officials and get the emails. He doesn't do it. The bureau panics that's spoke on their wheel of the spying operation falls apart. It doesn't come back again until everything else fails the Fiso warned against Carter page, they're tapping in the NSA database, Joe they don't have anything on this. The Trump team is not playing ball. They're not working with them on this. The IC I believe in conjunction with Brennan's team. His small group are desperately trying to get the Trump team to talk about this stuff. So they can push it to the bureau and nothing happens. What do they do they panic? They bring in Alexander Downer later Alexander Downer later meets with popadopoulos and this London pub and the allegation, then is that popadopoulos mentioned something about emails that allegation later refuted by popadopoulos and downers. Well, who says he just mentioned dirt on Hillary, which was already a public story. But Joe the bureau's panicking to why again, the scandals not working out there. Trying to set up the Trump team to get them on tape and get them on recordings and get informants within the Trump team to admit that the Trump team is trying to work with the Russians for Hillary's emails. But the problem Joe is they're not doing it. Right. So they panic. Downer comes into the mix. The Downer conversation with popadopoulos is used as a reason to start an investigation against popadopoulos. Was there a FIS against him to popadopoulos? What happens after the Downer meeting? Joe? Nothing. Nothing happens after the Downer meeting because in the Downer meeting popadopoulos where they talk about dirt on Hillary clearly someone in the FBI starts in investigation but realizes after a couple of weeks and weeks of investigating. There's no there there. There's nothing there. That's why you don't see popadopoulos enter the picture again until after the election when you know. Tier one level panic sets in and people in the FBI or like, holy Moses. It's going to be exposed that we tried to get popadopoulos dirty up and tried to flip them. Good deal, brother. Yeah. That's good. That's good. Yeah. So after seven days after the election, the bureau shows up at his house again and in an effort to get him dirtied up. What do they say, hey, we'd like you to wear a wire against Masud? Now, there are two possibilities here. If myths should here's possibility number one. The people in the FBI are not ready in as to what the intelligence community did by working with Masud to thirty up popadopoulos, please tell me that makes sense. And here's scenario number one people within the intelligence community, not the law enforcement community on the FBI side working with Brennan and some partners in London and probably some private companies to. Are trying to thirty up the Trump team. They don't tell the FBI about this the guy they're using as a as a as a spy for them. If sued is the FBI may believe at this point. He's legitimately dirty myth sued. They, but they they think popadopoulos is dirty to Joe because popadopoulos has been dealing with the dirty guy. Like if you were trying to cooperate corroborate a coordinator Bank robbery with a Bank robber. They think your dirty to for being a piece of it. But they also want the Bank robber. So the bureau comes in figures out that they may be able to flip popadopoulos as a source within the Trump administration. If he gets a job there by getting him to wear a wire Whitman's sued, and then they have something on them. They have this whole thing they have this this April meeting with him where he's dealing with this alleged Russian guy. Excuse me, miss sued. This guy connected to Russians and emails. In other words, they have a Chit against them chintzy h. You see what I'm saying? Joe do they probably approach puppet? Dopoulos in January twenty seven th hey, we know you were meeting with this guy, MS sued, not realizing this citizen intelligence asset for western intelligence, and he mentioned something Russian emails Georgia and a lot of trouble you better work for us. This is really an effort to flip popadopoulos on Trump though. You get it. They don't care about myth Soudan. How do we know that Joe because they interview if sued just weeks later on February eleventh after they interviewed popadopoulos on twenty-seven on January twenty seven then ask him to wear a wire. Popadopoulos doesn't want to do it on February eleventh. They interview miss soot. He's never seen again, the FBI right, folks. What happened here what happened is pretty clear at this point? Somebody notifies the FBI after the February eleventh meeting with Masud that mid sued was an intelligence asset for friendlies. China's set up the Trump team the bureau panics. The bureau panics because now they realize they've been trying to flip popadopoulos the whole time and popadopoulos is the victim of a setup by our own ic-. What did they do? Joe they go back to popadopoulos five days after the Mifsud interview. February sixteenth popadopoulos figures out the scam. It's clear as day. Why Joe he deletes his Facebook page and gets rid of his cellphone? He figures out the bureau's not looking for Masud the bureau's looking for him. Between this period popadopoulos wipes his accounts Clinton. I'm not suggesting it's the right thing to do. I'm just telling you what happened to euro comes back to him in an extra super paddock on February sixteenth just five days after the mis interview probably realizes holy mid sued was an icy asset for us. He's not a Russian. What do we do? Now, we got to shut this guy up. They go back to pop dopoulos desperate now for him to cooperate against the Trump team realizing their role in this whole thing. That the bureau was probably people were hoodwinked. In this massive scheme. Believe me, I'm not suggesting at all that they are without stain on this because there's another option to which I'll get to. But they panic in the interview because now popadopoulos with this lawyer in the room, February sixteen is totally not interested in playing ball at all gets rid of his Facebook gets rid of his phone there. FBI realize is now Joe they've got a real problem but Muller's team. Excuse me, the team working on this case Muller. Not a key player in the shed the team working on this case Joe realizes, they have a serious serious problem. Because popadopoulos is out there. Now, people know, they have recordings likely popadopoulos meeting Masud, they realize MS Sudas, likely and unintelligent asset being groomed to work against the presidential candidate that they're all mailed for their role in it. But it doesn't become transparently obvious. How much trouble there in Joe until? July twenty seventh twenty seventeen. When the inspector General Michael Horowitz goes up to the Bob Muller team and says Bob have you read these text messages? Oh, boy with those probably an eye opener for Bob. Hey, we panico arrest poverty. I have another option for you. Let me just get through this. Let me read this don't go anywhere. There's another I'm leaning towards that first option. I told you that the bureau was entirely unaware that myth sued was that western intelligence asset. They needed to flip popadopoulos they figured this out on February eleventh. That's why Mifsud disappears to never be seen. Again, the bureau panics to look what we did. We're gonna get busted Trump's going to figure this out. He can declassify all this ship. Call rasp double is myth sued. Don't show your face like ever. All right. Today's show. Also brought to you by one of my favorite new apps. 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Folks, there's another possibility here to this massive massive scandal. We now know that despite the Democrats protest stations otherwise that Andy Weissman who's on the Muller team. According to John Salman's latest piece is aware that the B primary source of information in the Russian collusion thing. Steel is corrupted. Apparently, Bruce or briefs this is a coordinated Solomon piece people at the Justice department. Why Andy Weissman was still there briefs them briefs McCabe at the FBI and others. And when he tells them about the information, the Steele dossier, Bruce or under oath in congress, Joe has said that he was clear as day that this was potentially corrupted information that was the result of a guy who didn't like Trump now. This is new as Sean Hannity said last night. He's right. They knew they knew the whole time, the Democrats and the up in congress, folks, and the media has been insisting the entire time here. That when the dossier information was presented to the Pfizer court to spy on the Trump team that people in the FBI were unaware of the political motivations of the document people in the DOJ were unaware that is not true. Let me read to you from John Salomon's piece, but ORs contacts about the steel weren't limited to the FBI. Listen to the day Joe. The date of the insurance policy tax for Peter stroke is August of two thousand sixteen or briefs the Justice reset in August of two thousand sixteen nearly two months before the FIS Amore was issued that he was asked to conduct a briefing for senior Justice officials. Listen who's in this briefing? Does he briefed included Andrew Weisman? Then head of the DOJ's fraud section. Bruce swertz longtime head of the DOJ international operations and Zeynep Ahmad an accomplished terrorism prosecutor at the time was assigned to work with Lynch as a senior counsel. She is now on the special counsel with Angela Weisman as well. Now, do you understand the cleanup operation Muller's bringing in all of these people who were briefed as far back in August as August of two thousand sixteen about a dossier that later turned out to be false from guy. Steele Christopher Steele who Bruce or told them was corrupted source. Now, do you understand? Why Muller was the only guy who could possibly be appointed for the special counsel could clean up this mess because he was going to hire the people involved in the mess. Of course, they were gonna make their role in it. Go away by keeping me attention on Donald Trump. Right around the same time, Bruce or is telling them about this, this this phony dossier. Stroke probably catches on. He's the lead investigator in this case. Remember, he text his girlfriend in another text exchange show that there's probably no they're there. Right. When talking about the investigation of Trump, Lisa page as said in congressional hill testimony in Capitol Hill testimony that that by the time they had that got the FIS awards that it's still could have been literally nothing. What does this tell you? Joe now, it makes the insurance policy text in August, twenty two August of two thousand sixteen around the same time make sense, clearly stroke goose inexperienced, but rather dopey investigator at times. But these the lead investigator on this case against Trump clearly figures out that there's probably this is a garbage case. They need an insurance policy. What is the insurance policy the insurance policy at this time is clearly going to be the work. They do on George popadopoulos to flip him to get popadopoulos to work. Folks. This is this thing. It's so devious and disgusting. I just want you to take some solace in the fact that I'm absolutely convinced that all of these players are going down. They have left a massive massive paper trail. Now, I want to get to two more things. I t's before the read, and I wanna I don't wanna leave this out because I want to get to one more thing before the end of the show as well. There's another option here. So just let's pull this back out. And summarize the whole show. Around August of twenty sixteen. There's a lot of action in this case or is briefing the FBI, Bruce or Bruce oars talking to steal investigations are going on. This is right before the Fiso warrant, they're desperate to get information on the Trump team because they're spying on them. They start to realize their investigations falling apart. This is when the investigation into popadopoulos kind of the timeline lapses for a while because they're probably moving onto other targets and other spokes in their spying wheel someone texts about an insurance policy at this point. It's a stroke techs page. The insurance policy is likely the flipping of people within the Trump team. Notably popadopoulos being one of them. Trying to thirty up popadopoulos to get him to be a source while Trump is campaigning and get him to be a source afterwards. It doesn't work out popadopoulos figures out when they come back to him in January popadopoulos figures out what they're doing. They ask him to wire up against myth sued. They likely figure out Masud is an ICS set in their interview in February eleven they back off that on the Masud side Masud disappears. They go back to popadopoulos February sixteenth to try to shut him up. He won't shut up. So what are they do? They lock them up on July twenty seventh after the texts are exposed exposing the whole scheme, but there's another possibility here I wanna put out there. And the other possibility is this that myth sued may have been what the sky quotes to me in an unwitting myth sued may not have been the IC asset. They were using the setup popadopoulos show in. In the statement of offense. Notably. They talk about this Russian MFA connection that myth sued introduces popadopoulos to in other words, Masud introduces popadopoulos to a Russian. How they frame the Russian. The statement of offense is very distinct leave out sex at many points. You know, the the sex of the of the source. Indicating that this Russian MFA connection may have been the IC asset him or herself. In other words myth sued. Joe? Myth sued may have been unwittingly involved in this. Oh, he that may have been approached later on by intelligence community members, the bureau figures this out in February of eleven February eleventh of two thousand seventeen when they interview him. And then gives him the boot to and says don't ever speak of this again. But it's fascinating how they described this Russian MFA connection. In other words, folks, either way option one that miffed sued as the asset working for the intelligence community setup. Pop up alerts or option to it's this mysterious Russian MFA connection who's really spying for our community. Either way popadopoulos was clearly being set up. There is an effort here repeatedly with popadopoulos approaching him. Joe mentioned the ten thousand dollars the approach to popadopoulos with this ten thousand dollars overseas, which the account of that's disputed by the other person involved Charles to we will. But you can read the epoch times piece. But there were multiple approaches to popadopoulos I'm asking you this question why the rush to arrest the sky on July twenty seven then one appears to be more. And the answer seems crystal clear right now. They needed to shut him up and shut him down. There was no other way to do it. They tried to flip popadopoulos they were using popadopoulos what they thought as a source, and it would trying to thirty him up to use him. If he got hired later on by the Trump team where they were trying to use him against Masud until they found that Masud was being used by the ICU against popadopoulos. Folks. I'm really starting to believe. That some of the key players in the bureau knew what they were doing believe me. They knew they were investigating Trump for no reason. But that Brennan kept a lot of them in the dark as well. That there may have been a deepen detailed icy operation with foreign partners in London and elsewhere to set up Donald Trump to leak that information to the media. They only brought in law enforcement later, Joe with the August memo from Harry Reid after he gets briefed by Brennan as they started to panic about the election and figured out President Trump at that time candidate Trump may in fact, win this thing, and if he was going to win they were all going to be exposed they needed an insurance policy that insurance policy was going to be to flip popadopoulos against the Trump team believing. He was involved in this in this Russian scandal. Only figuring out later that myth sued and the whole thing was a setup by the see. There was no Russian scandal. There was an intelligence community scandal. Hence, the July twenty seventh political civil war date. Where Muller figures out the team's been using the whole time has been corrupted. They have to arrest. Popadopoulos the house GOP figures out calls for a second special counsel and conveniently someone leaks to circa about a top F B I lawyer working with Komi who may have been involved in a scheme to leak information to the media. Folks. I know this show was complicated today. I'm sorry for that. But this is one of the more critical shows we've done in a long time. This article by the epoch times is devastating. I have to be candid with you. I'm not even sure popadopoulos understands the layers involved in this. He may I'm let's we should try to get him back for another interview. Joe, but it seems clear as day now that popadopoulos in January of twenty seven is clear as day. According to his own words is approached and is possibly going to work with the FBI. But popadopoulos doesn't realize Joe that the F B I is not targeting myth sued the FBI is targeting popadopoulos. They need a source inside the Trump team. Popadopoulos figures it out he figures it out, and that's why he panics with his Facebook pages phone and the FBI Russia's in on February sixteenth to clean, this mess up. They can't have it. Go public that. They're trying to recruit a spy inside. Would would now may be the Trump administration. They had a clean this mess up. They thought they had gold. He met with MS sued. They they met with this Russian MFA connection. They were talking about emails. I'm not sure Mifsud was the FBI thought he was. Folks. This is a devastating piece please please check it out. All right. I'd love to hear your feedback on the show today. I understand that was complicated. Please listen twice. I did. I tried to repeat myself as little as possible on it. I know some of you like that some of you don't we went right straight through it in the time line. But I think if you listen twice in all make sense, the bureau thought they had golden popadopoulos never realizing that their own intelligence assets will work in against them, you you intelligence assets for friendlies it now appears crystal clear based on this new information popadopoulos was asked to wear a wire against myth sued. Which makes absolutely no sense. If Mifsud was working for our guys in a bureau it unless they were trying to get popadopoulos groomed to be an informant later on and told miss just play ball with this guy. Makes absolutely no sense. All right. Thanks again for tuning in, folks. Really? Appreciate it. Police subscribe to the show on itunes. You'll get the show every day. It's free. You can also follow an iheartradio follow us on Spotify. You can subscribe on soundcloud and elsewhere really helps us move up the top charts at his absolutely free. But this is it's the subscriptions not just the downloads that help us move up the charts. 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The Obama Fixer is Back! (Ep 1189)

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The Obama Fixer is Back! (Ep 1189)

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan Bongino folks. I always tell you to remember the names. And all these scandals because they're constantly going to creep up again because everybody knows each other in these anti trump hoaxes and these obama era scandals. Everybody's covering up for everybody and unbelievably the Obama fixer. The fixture is back. She's back again yes yes she's back. I got that I got more on Birdie. I've got a very suspicious death in California. I did bring up yesterday because I was waiting for the facts. Come out today is going to be a loaded. Show was sponsored by express. Vpn Secure Your Internet privacy today with express VPN go to express the DOT com slash Bongino. Welcome to the Dan. Bongino show producer. Joe How are you today? Remember the names. Remember the name and it has been our motto from the Start and the fixer is Back Latest Jab at CPAC tomorrow night. 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Let's go all right doing all right. Before we get to the fix or being back I love say that the fixers back Bernie Sanders doubling down on stupid this is if Bernie Sanders is intentionally trying to blow the presidential election and flush the state of Florida down the toilet bowl because he doesn't seem to at all what people think about his support. A police state murderers tyrants communists and Socialists Bernie continues to double down on providing air cover for socialist regimes. Instead of just calling out there universal. Evil I'm GonNa get this. I'M NOT GONNA take too long on this because I covered it yesterday but this is really important. What exploited you? What's going on here and want to do it as objectively as possible. I know that's hard. Mara but this is GonNa matter so if you watch show we covered Bernie Sanders. Who when asked about why. He's constantly defending socialist. Murderous regimes on sixty minutes by Anderson Cooper in a shocking moment of journalism. He says well they're not all bad. You know they have literacy rate. They teach people to read get before they murdered them. Maybe they can read. I'm not sure how that's a good thing. And why you can't call that out but Bernie. Sanders has been getting destroyed on both sides of the story in the show notes today by John Salman's new website. Some other ones about how bipartisan criticism has come from everywhere including where I live in south Florida to Bernie Sanders Cuban exiles whose parents sues relatives and friends have been murdered and their property has been stolen here in the United States. Do not want to hear lectures. From a millionaire pompous loser like Bernie Sanders about the wonders of Cuba. They don't WanNa hear it. Ladies and gentlemen I live here okay. I'm sorry I live here. I hear it every day. A good friend of mine. My Barber is a good friend of mine. Them forever is a Cuban exile. I trust me. He does not want to hear about the beauties of Cuba from Bernie Sanders. You fill in the blank instead of now. Retracting his ridiculous defense but they teach them how to read this is him on CNN. Request Chris Cuomo doubling down. The truth is truth. Listen to this moron. Check this out for the Democrats who say you. Don't say good things about Fidel Castro. He destroyed freedoms in that country. He played picks winners and losers and killed them and put them in prison forever. You don't give them a pat on the back for anything. It's not a quite truth is truth all right. Want to disagree with me if somebody wants to say that all of those Congress people that you mentioned just so happen to be supporting other candidates just accidentally no doubt coincidentally. But you know the truth is the truth. And that's what happened in the first years of the Castro Regime Folks. Truth is truth. And what the ultimate truth is death because when you're dead that is in fact true you're buried. There's no life function. You are dead those coffins. Those dead bodies shallow graves will never go away. That's in fact true Bernie Sanders absolute refusal to call out. Murderous socialist regimes and to constantly provide air cover and try to put lipstick on the biggest pig of all time. Socialism a body count of hundreds of millions is an absolute disgrace to humankind into civilized people. All over the world now. I have not heard a better retort yet. Then match slap conveniently runs CPAC IN ACU match lap was on Fox yesterday with Jason Nichols a liberal defending bizarrely again Bernie Sanders. I don't get this guy at all. You will not hear a finer indictment of what Bernie Sanders is doing then mad. Who by the way his his wife Mercedes served in the trump administration is Cuban and whose father had their property stolen in tyrannical murderous? Cuban regime listen to match lap and listen to how the wraps US UP AT THE END. You will not hear a finer finer call out on the disastrous murderer. Social scene in this check this out Bernie. Sanders also traveled to the Soviet Union. He's had wonderful things to say about the youth programme in the Soviet Union And other and their public libraries and such. It's all Balderdash. Let's face it. This issue of Castro is near and dear to my heart. Fidel Castro put my father-in-law in prison to stole a decade of his life. Let me tell you what the literacy program is. Under Castro's Cuba it is learning how to say don't shoot me because that's what they did to thousands and thousands of people. That's what they continue to do. They stole every one of the pieces of property that my father in law owned this socialism leads to it leads to undermining the individual human rights which we cherish in America and we should never take even just one half step towards this disgusting regime. I have nothing to add. That rarely happens now. I just want to show you some headlines. You can see how this is playing in south Florida which is densely populated with Cuban exiles exiles from Venezuela and other socialist regime that stole people's lives and fortunes away. Here's the Miami Herald again is Bernie Sanders trying to lose the state of Florida and a landslide. Miami Herald one of our biggest newspapers in south Florida on sixty minutes. Bernie says it's unfair to say everything bad about Cuban Revolution folks. You know things are bad when the Miami Herald. A left leaning newspaper is putting this in their newspaper while Democrat. Lawmakers are criticizing Bernie in south Florida to. This guy is a loser at life. He is a loser in his ideology. He is a disgrace to politics. He is not authentic. He is a fraud of the highest order. He is a stain on this country. He is a stain on the of everyone buried in a shallow grave in Cuba fighting for their liberty and freedom. This guy is a disgusting piece of human filth. Who is a hair on your head away from being nominated for the presidency and the Democrat Party? Now you say the literacy rates well Bernie Sanders keep saying how the literacy rates people learn how to read and Cuba before they killed them. That's Great Wall Street Journal. Today is an interesting little table. Not as if we need to even defend this ridiculous absurdity of a talking point but because liberals are largely boneheads and will continue to go back to the same thing literacy rate not mentioning the murders the shallow graves the torture and the political prisons del constantly. Go back to a talking point. Because they're morons a lot of them and I know that bothers a lot of you. I'm sorry this is not for you. Then this is a show that takes the gloves off. There are other shows that play nice liberals. That's not this show. I'm very sorry. Wall Street. Journal today burners Bernie's Cuba illiteracy the Vermont senator finds a silver lining to the Castro Revolution. Well let's get into the literacy rates and interesting little point about that The literacy rate quote. That's nice to know but Mr Standards. Still flunks Cuban literacy one on one before the nineteen fifty nine revolution. Some eighty percent of Cubans could read that put the islands education level far ahead of most of its Latin American neighbors but in the ensuing six decades many countries in the region have moved to near Universal Literacy. So let's get this straight show Bernie's talking point is that the murderous Cuban regime under Castro That tortured killed and politically in prison. Large Swath of the population while confiscating. All of the everything. They've earned and worked for their entire lives Was a good thing because people learn to read. Well now we find out that the facts which never agree with liberal talking points liberals who turned pure lunacy now defending murderers murderers now a murderer. Castro's a murderer. He's nothing more than a murderer. A two bit murderer. Now we find out that the literacy rate before the Revolution was actually higher than their Latin. American wait I thought the Cuban Revolution did that and then we find out that other countries in the region that did not have a murderous regime in charge also moved to near universal literacy to without having to kill people to do it. Let's see Joel. I'm going to throw this out page. Oh if you had two options to teach people to read okay option one. Let's stick to kind of freedom and Liberty Education and let's not kill people or option to let's teach people to read and if they don't murder them and steal their property. I'm just throwing this out there joint job that you prefer ads and easy. That's an easy when a number one. Yeah that's it you would say the non murdering I check out the crazy one of thank you joe. We always need audit joe to put his audience referee hat on. Thank just checking folk. Yeah just checking but again arguing with today's liberals you want a nice nice show. I'm sorry I'm not your guy. I'm sick of these people. They are police. State spying infanticide. Supporting open borders supporters of socialist murderers. Now that's what these people who support this guy are if truth makes you. A truth is true. If that makes you uncomfortable I am very sorry and I know that's not the overwhelming majority of my audience because I read your emails who demand this guy be called out sanders. You know folks I get it. Some of you may say some of the Liberals in the audience will everything in life is viewed on the margin. Most of it is right. When we view the accomplishments of George Washington and our founding fathers. We acknowledge some of them made major mistakes major catastrophic moral errors George Washington some of his earlier losses while functioning. A military officer were devastating or wanted to be an officer at the time. They were allegations. He tried to cover some of them up. There's the catastrophic moral stain on our country many of them owning slaves right a grave sin grave sin so you may say well if we view the founding fathers for some of their net goods. Why don't we view why isn't a fair? Didn't give Bernie a pass on this. Because Ladies and gentlemen as a civilized society there are events in our history viewed as universal evils regardless of what happened under those universal evils. Ladies and gentlemen nobody talks about the Holocaust in these terms no one. I don't care about anything anything you have to say to try to. It was a universal horror to only be spoken about in the annals of history as a horror to never ever be repeated. This is widely understood. We don't gloss over the bad stuff. Well this happened there. We don't talk about slavery in those terms either. It is a universal evil understood by all civilized beings to never be glossed over order. Never try to put lipstick on it. Ever among Sane civilized people saying civilized people understand socialism and the destruction of liberty and freedom and the torture and political imprisonment to come with it to be in that same group. Notice I said Saint Civilized people which is not include Bernie Sanders. We don't include these things and we don't discuss them as if they had some positive component to them really. This is disgusting. I can't believe we're having this conversation. I have been warning. You as Audience Archives Junie. Judy told me I have to make corrections to warn you about Bernie for two years but warning Bernie for five years. Now she pointed out older episodes. I've been telling you about the dangers of this guy. Big Trouble added. I let me just get this because this is going to be important. Folks next segment is going to be devastating. The same people keep appearing and all of the scandals over and over and one of them is back three show also brought to you by our friends at lending club. 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Check your rate just minutes for up to forty thousand dollars. Stop high interest loans out there. That's lending club dot com slash. Dan Lending Club dot com slash. Dan All loans made by Web Bank member. Fdic equal housing lender all right. Let's get right to it. So the fixer is back. Who is the fixer? You all remember Catherine Rambler. Oh Yeah I did a show that when you do that one bat Guano crazy longtime ago about how it was awfully weird that Obama's White House lawyer as we can see from this screen cap here woman by the name of Catherine Rambler keeps appearing as an adviser legal adviser a source on an email in just about every Obama era scandal. Catherine Rambler Obama's former White House counsel there. You Go. There's your name right there. Just put that up there in case you know because we do facts on the show. Now that may not surprise you. That Obama's lawyer White House lawyer would be involved than Obama era scandals but I just want to set the groundwork here because she's appearing in another post Obama era scandal involving an Obama Era Scandal. And she seems to never go away. It sure. I'll believe it or not joe and it's fascinating how. When Obama had the opportunity to describe what Katherine Ramleh Specialty was. He said something very interesting. So let's lay out I how Obama's White House counsel Catherine Rumours White House lawyer has been intimately involved in all of his nonsense and how she's coverage something else of. Let's check out this first story here so remember that the Secret Service Scandal. Listen I was in my book if you want to read it life inside the bubble where. I address some of that snow. But here's the story by Sydney Powell. Who Ironically is my Flynn's lawyer now. Because she understands she knows all this she wrote a book on it actually sex lies and the White House counsel rambler blunders the Secret Service Mess. So Catherine Rumour Obama's lawyer for those of you don't remember there was some Secret Service folks in Columbia involved in. This message is something. I do a lot about against my book. You WanNa hear about it. But in that mess there were allegedly some White House. Staffers involved as well. And Catherine rumour was involved in making this whole thing kind of according to some reporting at the time she seems to know where a lot of the bodies are very fascinating because Obama described there in a very interesting way. Here's a New York Times article from a while back. We're Obama talks about how this relatively obscure attorney propelled herself into being the one of the top advisors to Barack Obama and kind of like running interference for all of his scandals. This is the article. Departing White House counsel held powerful sway. Powerful sway. Why did she hold powerful sway in the White House? Let's see how Obama described there? Maybe it'll make a lot of sense. How ramler the fixer described often? As Obama's fixer keeps appearing everywhere quote. Barack Obama Kathy has become one of my most trusted advisers over the past few years. I deeply value her smarts her judgment and her wit. Listen to this this beauty. But most importantly her uncanny ability to see around corners. Nobody else anticipates. Wow IS GONNA come back to Heart Barack Obama so she has an uncanny ability like the X. men to peer around corners and sense. What's common before it's coming convenience. She's always running interference for Barack Obama and a lot of these scandals. Wow and how she keeps appearing. Now let's go to another one here. Let's go to this other screen from the New York. Times where we see how she's been involved in another Oscar scandals as well and she seems to be obsessed with executive privilege in keeping Obama. Secrets really really secret. Bury them six feet deep. Kind of like shallow Cuban graves quote and Miss. Rambler took a hard line and internal debates about keeping executive branch documents. Secret like memos from the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel sought by Congressional oversight or the freedom of Information Act lawsuits her arguments that disclosing them would chill candidate advice to the president have contributed to Mr Obama's transition from promising greater transparency to being criticized even by his own allies for excessive secrecy. So according to Barack Obama has fixer Catherine rummell has an uncanny ability to see. What's GONNA come out of Barack Obama from around the corner and she seems obsessed with executive secrecy? Mr Obama? We need to keep this quiet. Gee what are they keeping quiet look where rumble or shows up again? Even after she leaves the Obama White House because the Obama White House is no longer the White House because president trump least wins the election. Catherine rumours resurfaces again. Check this politico piece out. Isn't this weird the fixer back? Always she never goes away. Lawyer for Susan. Rice Obama Administration is justifiably concerned about sharing intelligence with the trump team. Who was that lawyer crazy? Catherine Ramler what are the chances that wow you'll bama? Fixer is representing Susan Rice. Who Remember Susan Rice? Who wrote the email right before trump was to come into the White House and taking over for Barack Obama? That don't worry with the spy gate thing. We did everything by the book. Remember that remember the National Security Advisor at the time in the Obama White House was very concerned with sharing intelligence with the incoming president. Remember that well Susan. Rice had a go. Hi a lawyer and who better to higher than the Obama fix Sir who sees around corners and has expertise and keeping a lot of things. Secret folks are subject to my third book on this topic. Everybody knows each other and everybody has something to hide. And who better to hire for all of these scandals Benghazi the AP phone records secret service scandal spy gate. Oh and more coming up than an expert in seeing around corners and making sure everything's go. Everything goes away the blanket of executive privilege. She's at the central. All of this stuff. Oh it gets better you remember this doozy George Nader remember. Remember as eighty eight. Or where do I remember that George NATO? Oh George Nader. Yeah you mean the guy that set up the meeting with trump associate shells that I believe was set with the Russians to advance the Russian collusion narrative. That guy that guy George Nader for those of you don't remember. According to multiple reports is the guy he sets up a meeting with Eric. Prints who's in a defacto associated trump because his sister is betsy. Devos trump's education secretary so just to be clear a guy believed to be in the trump orbit. Eric Prince is approached by this guy. George Nader about meeting with a Russian in the Seychelles conveniently around the time the Democrats are trying to advance the narrative that the Russians are colluding with the trump team. Ladies and gentlemen I believe was set up the whole time. I've talked about this repeatedly but the guy who sets up a meeting with the Russian I believe is part of an elaborate set-up here George Nader conveniently as we could see this piece is represented by who no way after long delays the peace in America great by Deborah Hind. Be In the show notes today. Bungee DOT com slash newsletter. If you want us to email you the show notes every day after a long delay. A key witness in the muller probe's arrested on child porn charges. Who was that crazy but it was George. Nader look at peace George Nader. Sixty was arrested Monday morning at JFK airport according to federal prosecutors in the Eastern District of Virginia. Nater was involved in several key meetings. At the center of Bob Muller's report. He shows up more than one hundred times in the Muller report due out the investigation. Nader's represented by come on. Come on now. Guy was represented by Catherine Ramler Obama's longtime White House counsel and fixer. Who sees row quarters and is really good at burying things under mounds of executive privilege. So the guy who sets up a meeting with a trump associate loose associate by the way at best with a Russian as the Democrats are trying to advance a false narrative. The trump team collude with the Russias later becomes a an informant for. Muller is arrested on child porn charges and his lawyer who magically shows up Joe of all the lawyers in a country of three hundred and fifty million people and it world measured in the billions of all the lawyer who show up magically the same lawyer involved in covering up the secret service scandal and covering up the phone records scandal and covering up Benghazi involved in the IRS scandal involved in the Susan. Rice scandal magically shows up to make sure nater gets the best legal counsel possible. Wouldn't want him really talking about what he knows. Now would we Now you may say all right so she's involved with Nater Susan Rice the AP Ghazi Secret Service thing. My Gosh what else could possibly go wrong. Here's a crazy piece in the Washington Post. This is just nuts. How again rumours seems to find a way. Into all of this White House counsel Kathy Ramler from outsider to protect over the presidency to protect our the presidency. Excuse me Washington Post. Look at this little snippet from this piece how Ramler magically appears again in the middle of aim nother scandal quote. Her role has made her office. The focus of controversy in recent weeks over the White House's handling of three incidents she said this is basic the irs targeting conservative groups the Obama Administration's response to Benghazi and the DOJ seizure of journalists phone records leak investigations. It was rumours decision for example not to tell Obama about the findings of the audit of the IRS. At to resist congressional demands to release drafts of talking points on last fall's Benghazi attack on the grounds. It would violate executive privilege. Okay I think we've adequately set up the fact that Obama's fixer is the centre focal point of just about everything now. Did you have that? You have the back of the where she reappearing again. Because as we said in the opening of the show the fixer is back hat tip to add John W Huber on twitter undercover Huber. One of the finest accounts on twitter always digs through and deep dives into the legal analysis. Look at this little gem. He found so before we put that up there. Well it's up there. We go right away. Look at this. This is a legal document showing representations by Latham and Watkins. And WHO's back Catherine Rambler again though? Well what she backed. She's defending someone. Oh she's defending the DNC against a lawsuit by Carter Page who is illegally spied on by the FBI as a conduit to spy on the trump campaign when he was a foreign policy adviser. They're magically Obama's White House counsel in a country of three hundred plus million people of all the lawyers out there Catherine rumbelow who's defending Susan Rice in knee deep in spy gate. Who's defending George? Nader key witness in spy gate later arrested on child. Porn charges also shows up to defend the DNC who Carter page is suing for being involved. It's biking ladies and Gentlemen Obama to know anything about this. Don't you worry? His White House attorney. Who's known as fixer? Who's involved in all of his scandals? is knee deep. And all of that stuff. Don't worry about it. Obama doesn't know anything about anything she just magically keeps showing up by chance okay. That's the only response. There's no other response to this. This is what I mean the suspension of disbelief. You need to believe that this is. This is all fake. It's all nonsense. It's all a coincidence all the time. It's just stunning. I mean in my book were right now. I cover how everybody in. The Ukraine scandal knows each other names creep up in the Ukraine scandal that creep up in the spy scandal key figures in the Obama Administration deemed by the Washington Post Protectors of the Obama Presidency. Not by words. They're magically shows up every time a spy gate figure surfaces so Susan Rice. Who's caught dead to rights in this email? She writes. We were told to do everything by the book. And E mail obviously obviously meant to cover her role in spy. Nobody says they do things by the book. If you're doing things by the book you don't send an email to yourself off. We convenient that. She could talk and spill the beans on the Obama Administration and who shows up to represent her as White Knight Obama's former White House counsel. George NATO I believe was involved in an elaborate setup of trump T- people to foster the collusion Arab. He could start talking to shows up again Obama's fixer. It's this lawyer. Carter page who is illegally spied on by the DNC and others who helped foster this effort using the FBI the DNC played a key role in the FBI spying operation to people there who were dealing with people at the FBI sussman Baker and others. They could start talking to and give up the beans. What Obama did. Who shows up to save today again. Obama's lawyer again. The fixer is back now. Here's one more Jim because remember. The premise of this entire three weeks of shows has been damning. They all know each other these conspirators. And they're all hiding something you may say. Is Rumour hiding anything herself or is she just hiding Obama stuff as the protector of the Presidency as Washington Post? Call them rumours ties herself or suspicious. Look at this piece in Reuters. It's from a while ago but it resurfaces yet again. Muller team lawyer brings witness flipping expertise to trump probe. This is an article from Reuters about dreadful lawyer. Andy Weissman. Who Was Muller's chief lieutenant in the hoax probe into collusion? You know the mother pro. He Picks Andy Weissman in my opinion. One of the worst attorneys in America totally screwed up the Enron case. The guy's been a disaster but Weissmann has a reputation for being quite awful person and for witness flipping pressuring people into testifying as someone once said to composing things up. You know what I mean. That's Weisman's reputation now. You may say there's no way ramblers and five with him to let's go to the Reuters piece because you'd be wrong again. Catherine Ramalu serve this White House counsel into Barack Obama this is heartache on Andy Weissman who just blew the muller probe and blew the Enron said Weisman is willing to take risks to secure witness testimony. Think that other prosecutors might not come on. This can't be am I reading this right off the tree pollen. Is You manipulate this shaking her head she did not. This is an actual quote from Reuters. Catherine rambler worked with Weizmann on the justice. Department's Enron Task Force that investigated the massive corporate fraud that led to the company's two thousand one collapsed. And May I add was widely criticized for entirely destroying the case and any of the cases? Credibility rambler knows Weisman. Oh they work together on that Enron disaster case. Did she have anything to do all with putting a burden people's ear and getting Weisman who we know hated trump because we have emails where he talks about his disdain. For trump we also know Weisman knew as early as August of two thousand sixteen that the dossier was a political document. Did Rumour Obama's fixer of anything to do? She dropped a burden anybody's here about getting Weisman appointed to the muller pro ensuring that the chief lieutenant under Muller was going to be a maximum anti-trump lunatic. Who WOULD DO ANYTHING? He could to flip witnesses to testify against trump for a crime. That never happened simply amazing. How ramblers named the Obama Fixer keeps appearing and yet the left again entirely unconcerned with their own dignity the truth or actual journalism seems totally unprepared to address the question of how it is that every single person in the muller not every single. I'd want to be precise I want to do with the left. This large majority of people who appear in Ukraine Gate Impeachment Gate Spy Gate Muller Game Secret Service Gate. Irs Gate Gate Nater Gay irs gate. Benghazi Gate I think I said the. Irs TWICE AP phone records game that all of these people keep Enron game in the same circle of friends. Are you not even mildly? Perturbed that they know each other and they're all hiding things. Of course you're not because you're morons in the media. You are a disgrace. I'll get another media lunatic later to all right my final sponsor of the day before I got another important story again. How just despite things gone off the rails now completely? John Solomon huge story last night very very important development. Something I've been telling you about for a very long time folks today show also brought to you by our friends at Rais. Khan I love love. Love love these ear buds. They are wireless. Here's mine. This is my right here. Lava look at them one. They're good to look at but the fit is amazing. 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They're terrified because Bob John Solomon has exposed the truth about Ukraine spy gate and other things so Solomon started his own website. Just the news was apologised. The News that pretty good and I've been looking at it and I like to use this stuff and Lee Smith greatly Smith author of a terrific book on spy. Gate has a piece up that again. You will not hear about in the mainstream media you may have heard about in the Hannity show last night but you will not hear it. The mainstream media because the mainstream media is not interested in the truth. But Trust me when I tell you. It is an enormous development folks. Put up the piece I and I'll get to a screen shot from a moment. I want you to read it. It's in the show notes again at Bongino Dot Com described in the newsletter bungee dot com slash newsletter. We'll send it right to you. This is Lees Smith that just the news DOT COM classified FBI. Memos Undercut Muller team claims that Popadopoulos hindered Russia probe titles overly complicated. I just want to get to the point of this. The entire spy gate case ladies and gentlemen revolves around one person and that person the the fakes by case not the real that the entire spike's rows around the FBI and the desire to spy on Donald Trump. It's that simple. The fake story. We've been told at all started because George Popadopoulos at a tip we got from the Australians. A friendly government essay nonsense story. If you are saying you'll disregard immediately. It is garbage. This case was started because of a fake dossier because they want to spy on trump period. Full Stop the cover story has always been George Popadopoulos sort of walk you back quickly for those unfamiliar with the various iterations to this. George Popadopoulos was a low level trump adviser. He meets with this Maltese academic Joseph absurd. It's alleged Mifsud tells them the Russians have Hillary's emails popadopoulos. Pass this information later on again allegedly to win Australian diplomat. Who passes it onto the FBI? The FBI swears that's why they started investigating Donald Trump. It's a false story ladies and gentlemen. Why isn't it be a story because it revolves around the fact that the or the non fach that the FBI is continued some people within the FBI notably Jim Komi have continued to insist that Josephus was a Russian agent passing information to Popadopoulos that he later passed onto a friendly government? Which gave us as a tip. Everybody Deg That is crap. I have told you forever move. So good is not a Russian agent. He may have Russian connections. Joseph Masud is not a Russian agent. I'm telling you it was set up. He was not an FBI source for an FBI asset. He was a Western intelligence asset. Who was being used by people? I have no doubt like the I believe the Eric Prince thing we were discussing nater before Russians were being sent or people associated with Russians into the trump orbit to make it look more likely that the fake Russian collusion narrative was real. It's that simple right. I believe this was the sole purpose of Misa now when the FBI arrest George Popadopoulos in twenty seventeen and prosecutes him pursuant to the Muller probe the Mueller probe the documents. We now have it on paper. Follow me because this is devastating malfeasance. The Muller probe is very specific in the mullahs report. That one of the reasons they pursued popadopoulos and arrested him is because Popadopoulos lied in his interview about Josef Mifsud and made it more difficult joe for us to go track this alleged Russian agent down Everybody dig. Follow me here. This is a major drop. Bob Muller and Andy Weissman yes who knows Catherine Rambler Obama's fixer very well made the case. The George Popadopoulos should be arrested and prosecuted because Popadopoulos lied about his contacts with a Russian agent. Is it and it made us really made it really difficult for us to track him down? You did a similar report. Wow we'll look what surfaces. Fbi meaning summaries of their interviews with George Popadopoulos. But that's not what George Popadopoulos told the. Fbi as Solomon puts in his piece is worth your time to read in full by the way folks just the news dot COM check it out the newly unearthed however F. B. I. Memo's paint a far different picture. They show for example that Popadopoulos expressed his willingness to participate participate actively in helping the FBI locate myth sued personally even before February tenth. Twenty seventeen in February first interview for instance popadopoulos is quoted as telling agents he could potentially meet witness it during a planned trip to London. Shockingly Joe this offer was never mentioned the to court documents filed by Aaron's alinsky genie re and Goldstein from the Muller. Probe Kidding in the same interview Popadopoulos told the FBI that MS said quote had recently reached out to him and indicated he may be traveling to Washington DC in February of twenty seventeen. Gosh what are the chances of that that Popadopoulos in contrast to the FBI? Bob Mueller probe completely false fake now if this was sworn under oath Never Nunez. They're looking into criminal charges. Yes yes against the people who supported this. You're suggesting and you suggest an under oath and in a official document the mullahs report. That popadopoulos obstructed your investigation into a Russian agent who was not a Russian agent who was involved in the setup. But that's not what Popadopoulos told you matter of fact not only did he not say that he said the opposite that he was willing to help you. And that's conveniently left out of the documents signed by who owe signed by errands Alinsky and Jeannie re both Clinton acolytes by the way. Linski who conveniently is also the assistant United States attorney on the Roger Stone case who recommended nine years for Roger Stone in ridiculous sentencing recommendation and then resign in a hissy fit infantile temper tantrum from the case when he found out that bill bar in the a Sane Justice Department would not cooperate with imprisoning a man for the rest of his adult life over a process charge. That's the same prosecutor who is involved in the prosecution Popadopoulos for obstructing an investigation into Masud. That he not only didn't obstruct but according to the FBI zone three or to volunteer to help on to hear about that in the mainstream media outlets that. No no you miss them. Yeah the Constitutional Republic Man. It's alive and well folks love this country death. I mean literally to death like I would die for it in a heartbeat. I love it I love it. I love this place. I love everything we stand for. You know I never forget every event that I'm Ed Paulaner there. We give a speech or whatever and they opened up with the pledge of allegiance and our national anthem. My hands over my heart and I gotTa tell you. Every time I hear that national anthem I always get a little choked up every single time at the fact that you feel the same way we are falling apart. We are falling apart. This country is being shredded by liberal lunatics. They're media ASS kissers a bunch of police state tyrants a bunch of never trump zeros who do not see the forest for the trees we are falling apart. You had an innocent man now prosecuted Popadopoulos for no good functional reason whatsoever. We have an Obama. Fixer appearing in every major scandal seems to insert herself in the middle. Every time we get a witness who can help us in the spy AK Susan Rice who could potentially flip George Nader. Who could give us some information? Why this meeting really happened. Carter page now comes forward sues the DNC who may have some information on how the spy gate thing started and Obama's fixer magically appears in the media's utterly silent we have a major revelation that the FBI may have lied. And Bob Muller's investigators may have lied about the prosecuting of an innocent man on allegations. He obstructed investigation. He told the FBI in a written document. He's willing to help on their written three. Oh twos and nobody says a word missing my show and others out there. Solomon's website the reporting of Bali. Hemingway and Chuck Ross and others. You missing the whole story. You're watching and lifetime understand this. The collapse of the Republic. You are watching and lifetime banks to the police state. Tyrannical socialism supporting Liberal Left. And they're surgically attach lips to the caboose media gross gross. It's really disgusting. Talking about the media. Check another time there. We're under again attack by the same discredited hacks all the time. These are not serious people. They're morons they're level one gray morons. Here's a tweet from the disgraced. How she has a job still unfathomable Maggie Haberman and I do mean disgraced. This woman has been exposed repeatedly as a collusion hoaxer. Any tool for the left. I'll read the quote a minute. But here she goes again this piece a year old but she has been pursuing ginny. Thomas Clarence Thomas. His wife and a friend of mine. She's again in her own. Right is an enormous activists for the conservative cause and has been a big influence in the lives of many conservative activists. She continues to go after people. Maggie Haberman. It's a tweet from today. But she highlights an article from a year ago. She wrote showing you how long she's been fascinated. She writes Ginny. Thomas efforts to try an impact personnel ministration of long-troubled. Some of the White House only the swamp rats folks who taught raise questions that the wife of a sitting Supreme Court justice was making such requests. Here's her article. She wrote last year showing Haberman. It's been obsessed which anytime I addressed this yesterday. Why because the story involves me? I know Jenny Jenny is a friend. I was never offered any of these jobs by the White House. Ladies and gentlemen it is a non story the fact that a friend of mine in the conservative movement who knows my resume and background would be interested in recommending to the White House. People who may support the president's agenda is not a story it is only a story and they trump era why why is noted Russian collusion hoaxer and Democrat. Tore fully discredited Maggie. Haberman not even worth the blog paper. She writes up her reporting is garbage every time. Why is she obsessed with this? Because Maggie Haberman was part of the collusion hoax as we get to the bottom of spy gate and the collusion hoax. People like Maggie Haberman exchanges with elsewhere will likely become public showing you what that to quote John Podesta. I'm quoting jump at. That's there. You mean Clinton Butt Kisser John Podesta. Yes remember John Podesta's emails? I came out. Let me read you a John. Podesta email about noted Democrat tool collusion hoaxer and full-time Hack Maggie Haberman Democrat John. Podesta quote. We have a very good relationship with Maggie. Haberman of politico where she wasn't the time over the last year we have had her tee up stories for us. And we've never been disappointed now. Do you see why Maggie Haberman is obsessed with people like me and Ginny Thomas and others who have been calling out Maggie Haberman for her role in actively promoting the biggest scandal in US history the collusion hoax and the predicates spy gate investigation. That went into it. Do you understand why she's desperate to discredit us now. Do you think if I've never met Maggie Haberman. I don't want to meet Maggie Haberman. This isn't personal. It's not it may sound it and yes. I will take personal chips. I don't know her. She is obsessed with me and Jenny. Thomas and other conservatives like Tom Fitness. Well why because folks if you go back and read my books. Spy Gate exonerated a book. I'm writing now. They are extensively. Footnoted about the symbiotic relationship between collusion hoaxers. Police staters the Muller Probe Democrats and people in the fake media like Maggie Haberman. They can't that story come out and when he did. They're desperate to discredit us as conspiracy theorists. Because they don't want their own malfeasance exposed. It is no more difficult than that to understand. I think the best way to describe it for one final story. A lot of you are sending me emails about this yesterday. There's a reason I held on it. It is a race. It is a race to try to deplete the political capital bank accounts of people who are true tellers. It's a race. The media folks out the Maggie Haberman 's The Washington Post staff the atom. Goldman's the other people out there who are been ongoing advancers of the fake hoaxes and the anti trump nonsense they are gonna continue to pile on these negative stories which are non stories. They're Bongino was recommended position. Why why is that a story? I don't understand that I never contacted forever. It's a story because she's trying to tell a narrative that we're all crazy conspiracy theory knots. Even though we got to the truth and any vehicle she can use tell that story. She will bring out because we expose her a fraud. A phony who tees up stories from the Democrats and she's never disappointed them. Why would she? Why would she disappoint them? She loves it all right. Here's the last story of the day what I've been. Kinda hinted around. This is sad. Story folks now disclosure. I know man well but a friend Phil. Haney died over the past few days. Now I have a story up at the Washington Examiner today. Which I'll put in the show notes Phil. Haney was a good friend of Mine Phil. Haney was a whistle blower for the D H S who was deeply concerned about the country and our methods for combating terrorism. He exposed a lot of D. H. S. Malfeasance and efforts to wipe the terrorism manuals clean of any references to genuine threats. He had done that repeatedly. Haney was found dead with a gun shop. Now I waited to talk about it because we don't have all the facts yet and it'd be irresponsible to speculate especially given the tragic nature of the circumstances but what's not speculation and if you want to read the story in the show notes you're welcome. It has not been determined a suicide yet. It has not been determined. They suicide yet. I'm only relinquish facts of the situation. According to the law enforcement professionals that showed up on the scene. We have no reason to doubt. Maybe if it is we'll update those events but the circumstances of his death are very suspicious. I knew I corresponded with Phil. Phil was very concerned about John. Brennan's role in spy gate. I've a series of emails on it from fell. He was very concerned about the. Dhs's efforts Brennan as well while he was in the Counterterrorism Division Coordination Center over there to Scrub any reference to Islamism in the terrorism fight. He was very concerned about that. His circumstances of his death are very suspicious in my communications with Phil. I'm not psychoanalyzing. I knew him well but not as well as some others. Phil was never depressed. Phil never talked about. This phil did not appear in any way suicidal at all. I waited only to be responsible and let you all down. I like to get the news out ahead of time. But he was a friend and it would be grossly irresponsible to put the story out without at least some some file of facts to be able to really. I will update you on that. I'm on it. I got your emails. I promise you when I hear something whether it's from sources or otherwise I will let you know but it is extremely suspicious that a noted public profile. Dhs whistleblower in the terrorism fight showed up. Put a gunshot wound under highly suspicious circumstances and it has not been ruled the suicide. I don't care what anybody tells you. Update the story. You can read that again. The peace of the show notes tonight right folks started leaving dour note but the you know it's an important story. I had to get out there. Thanks for listening and Hopi subscribe to our show YouTube dot com slash. Bongino and again. I hope to see you at CPAC regular show tomorrow. Thursday. I'll be our regular time that way but that but you'll see there will be doing video from there and if you're at the event please again come by and say hello. We pride ourselves on being really friendly and open with the audience. 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What the Supreme Court's Decision Means for DACA Recipients 2020-06-22

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What the Supreme Court's Decision Means for DACA Recipients 2020-06-22

"The DOJ had a wild weekend with the Southern District of New York office. What we say for sure is that that office has had its I on this administration, notwithstanding the fact that it's a part of this administration heads roll, but the result might not be what the trump administration wanted out of a chaotic seventy two hours I'm Tanzania Vega. It's the takeaway for Monday June twenty second also on. On the show, the NFL's abrupt change of card player protests for racial injustice was astounding moment that head of our number, one sport in America Kinda come out and be so unambivilant and saying hey, we should be backing social justice movements, and we were wrong in the past, but first DACA survived a supreme court test last week, but program is still on dangerous ground. That's where we start today. I believe this decision today. Is a true incitement of the way President Donald Trump. Does his business. We have tried to say that over and over to America in our eighty four lawsuits against this administration that the way Donald Trump doesn't business is not America's way. That's the way Donald. Trump does business his not according to the rule rula. California Attorney General Vr Bizarre there at a virtual conference on Thursday Thursday was the same day that the supreme. Court ruled against the trump administration's attempt to the deferred action for childhood arrivals also known as Dhaka. Dhaka was established by the Obama. In Two thousand twelve, and it was meant as a way to protect hundreds of thousands of immigrants who were brought to the US as children from being deported president trump tried to end the program in September twenty seventeen, but the move was blocked and the lower courts with the Supreme Court's ruling last week Daca is safe for now for more on this we turn to Nicole Neria, an immigration reporter at Vox Nicole welcome back to the show. Thanks so much for having me ten Zena also with us is show Bussey Opera Saadiyat Director of the Center for Immigrant's rights clinic at Penn, state, law and author of band immigration enforcement in the time of trump show, but thanks for joining us. Glad be here! So Nicole. Let's start with you What does the Supreme Court decision mean for Dhaka recipients. Many of these folks have been here since they were children. And now they're studying. They're working. Does that say that they can continue to live their lives? So dreamers are feeling like they can breathe a little easier for the moment. This is a hard won victory after years of litigation since trump tried to end the DACA program twenty seventeen so last week, at least they were celebrating for many of them. DACA represents their life and livelihood in the US. They've been as you said settled here for years and established families and careers here, so the prospect of being reported as trump administration had said it would. It would do if they lost their daca status would have been very devastating to them, but as you said this ruling really only represents momentary relief, and they still face challenges ahead because trump could still well end DACA. And chauvel! Let's talk a little bit about some of the judges. responses here in the opinion Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the majority opinion. Does it leave the door open for another attempt at dismantling DACA? Well that depends. The court did offer a a victory for the rule of law, and for dreamers last Thursday and answered two questions, I can the case be reviewed by the court they answered yes, and second weather the way the trump administration ended Daca was lawful and two that the court said no and found that the way that Daca ended was arbitrary and capricious under administrative. Administrative Law. So what could happen next? When it comes to the administration, they could follow the roles of what the lower courts do on remand and reinstate Daca as it existed in twenty twelve That's what the face of the decision offers on the other hand. The Department of Homeland Security could decide to write a new memorandum and provide more explanation or elaboration that the. Roberts court found to be lacking and if that happens, maybe there's a possibility for. Dakata to and at some point in the future. And Show, but just quickly we also know that Sonia sort of my your Justice Sotomayor wrote her own separate opinion, criticizing the court for not taking into account trump's past racists and anti immigrant remarks, your thoughts on on that opinion correct, so she did join the decision on Administrative Law, but also wanted to carve out her own position on the equal protection claim and I think these were important words. She found that the words of the president the way he talked about Mexicans for example help to quote create a strong perception that the decision to end Daca. was based on discriminatory Animus so she would've allowed the equal protection claim. Claim to move forward and I think it's interesting because you see that. She shared a similar sentiment when she issued her descent in the travel ban case and found that animists was driving the various versions of the travel ban that excludes people from majority Muslim countries. I think it's also an interesting way to think about where we are as a country now right now just to sort of your was on her own but if we look at the Court of public opinion on the conversation about race and racism in America is surfacing in significant ways, so maybe next time, this claim comes around again justify. Your will not be alone. Nicole do we know stepping away from Dhaka specifically for the moment and looking more sort of at the broader. Landscape here in terms of deportations specifically. We know that there are still folks you know we made the news. Media may have pivoted to covering other topics, but there are still families at the border. There are still people living in in these detention centers. So I'm just wondering Nicole. Can you give us a sense of whether? This moment has affected other deportations or the potential for deportations around the country. While not necessarily this moment particular in terms of Dhaka. I do think that. This has been a loss for the trump administration and immigration has long been one of his signature issues end going into an election year he really is harkening back to the anti immigrant that seemed to resonate with his base in two thousand sixteen, and he's doing that by enacting new restrictions on asylum as well as on legal immigration. On asylum he's been. Really trying to dismantle the asylum system for years now, and it was already incredibly difficult for people arriving at the southern border to obtain asylum. The pandemic has given him the opportunity to implement more stringent restrictions. For example he's invoked a provision of immigration law that allows officials to turn away anyone who could pose a risk of spreading contagious disease and implemented a new program that rapidly returns asylum seekers back to Mexico without even a medical inspection. Or already over twenty thousand people have been expelled through that program including unaccompanied children. He also recently proposed rule that would methodically gut the asylum system in a way that would block most people from the tanning asylum. Even beyond the pandemic, it would vastly expand immigration officials authority to reject asylum seekers applications without so much as a hearing as well as making make it all, but impossible for victims of gang, related and based violence to obtain protection in the US so on the whole trump has really been clamping down on the asylum system is as well as on legal immigration in April. He issued an executive order that temporarily suspended the entire. Entire of issuance of new green cards, and we approve over three hundred and fifty thousand green applications per year, so if trump decides to keep this bannon police through the end of the year, it could really impact hundreds of thousands of people. He is also planning to issue an executive order restricting foreign workers, coming on visas on the premise of protecting American workers, though there's some debate over whether foreign workers actually do displace American workers, and that could affect over two hundred thirty thousand people on, and he said over the weekend that he would announce it by today so so we could well see those restrictions coming down very soon. Chaba Nicole. Thank you for that. Zika important for us to remember the moment that that we're living in that has now just in the past couple of months. Really Become Shall we say intense in the United States were dealing with the coronavirus pandemic. We're dealing with now. The third or almost more than three weeks of continuing protests across the country for Racial Justice Shoba, can you tell us what the role of immigrants has been in uprisings against police brutality that? That, we're seeing right now and are there. Is there any overlap that we're witnessing in terms of the fight for for example abolishing ice and funding the police? Yeah, the those are all great questions and the history of immigration enforcement in this country, bears a lot of resemblance to what our criminal justice system looks like in connecting some of the dots in this moment, even at these very protests where the American public is saying, no more to the deaths of. Unarmed men and women are you have the administration making the choice to deploy ice and C. B P officers to protests to conduct arrests so i. find that troubling on a few levels including, but not just WanNa clarify you said her to to conduct. Arrests ought to arrest whom you're saying that they're ice officials that are being deployed to protest for racial justice and are seeking out what they believe would be undocumented folks. That's certainly one target and what is troubling about that. Is that ICE zone policy? says that it will not conduct immigration enforcement in location, such as rallies and protests, and other overlap is with regard to immigration detention, which is one of the largest forms of mass incarceration in this country, and is one that houses largely Brown and black emigrants, so I think there's overlap when we think about detention and who we detain and deport and this movement. Nicole got about a minute left. Curious about how you think this is going to play out for twenty twenty in terms of the president's reelection campaign, we saw an anemic Over the weekend at his rally and Tulsa than this comes after a week where the Supreme Court ruled against the president, twice including on one of his key issues, which is immigration. What? How's this going to play out in the campaign trail? Minute left. he really seems to be sort of grasping at straws here. in terms of making immigration, one of his core issues, and alienating members even of his own party, in terms of enacting restrictions on immigration, and and also in really clamping down on black and brown communities throughout this this whole. Movement for Racial Justice and I i. it seems that at least based on recent polling that Joe Biden has pulled ahead in recent weeks, but You know it. It's really not clear what will happen in November. I think that could really have an impact for. Dr Recipients who right now are still in a state of limbo. Maria is an immigration reporter at box and show us. Evolve Persad Wadia is a professor at Penn. State Law and the Director of the Center for Immigrant's Rights Clinic. Thanks to you both for joining us. Thank you. The southern district of new. York has a new acting US attorney at least for now Audrey Strauss the current deputy US attorney for the SDN will temporarily replace Jeffrey Berman in the role. The move is just the latest in a string of actions that appear to serve president trump's interests over those of the DOJ Berman was a trump appointee, but his office had led several investigations into allies of the president, including an ongoing investigation involving Rudy Giuliani on. On Friday night. Attorney General Bill Bar announced Jeffrey Berman the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York would be stepping down initially. Berman refuse to go quietly and saying he would stay in his position until the Senate confirmed replacement, but bar then applied more pressure, writing Burma a second letter, emphasizing that it was in fact, the president who was firing him speaking with reporters on Saturday, the president disputed his involvement very capable of dirty general. Not Involved joining me now is a ruin additional Wafa. Justice Department for the Wall Street Journal Arena. Thanks for being with US good to be here. Thanks for having me. With us a Stewart Gerson former acting attorney general of the United States for the first four months of the Clinton administration and Assistant Attorney General before that. Welcome to the takeaway Stewart thanks. So Stewart you spent decades working within the federal government, both for us attorneys and within the Justice Department. What was your reaction to Burma's firing over the weekend? Well. It was of great surprise of course because the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York been vigorous in attacking questions of fraud and corruption over the years. No one's ever heard a complaint externally that Berman was asleep at the switch indeed, he was praised by the attorney general who claims even to have offered him A. Another job at a higher at a higher level which also raises questions, but the fact is that that office was well known it. brought the case against Michael Cohen it. is investigating Rudy Giuliani It has charged of his associates and We know at least on a on a hearsay basis, but a reliable hearsay basis that that office has been and continues to investigate financial arrangements related to this administration that are of questionable nature. And of those financial arrangements you referring to president trump's connection to Deutsche Bank, or beyond well I'm certainly referring to the connection with Deutsche Bank and in that That office also is working on referrals from the Muller, team and the Muller investigation it also could involve the other matters, including Russia Ukraine and and and the light of that, but what we what we can say for sure is that that office has had its eye on this administration, notwithstanding the fact that it's part of this administration that's that's part of the tradition of that US attorneys office of the US Attorney's Office in Washington Which? Prosecuted Nixon associates during the Nixon Administration these offices both are famed for their independence, and for their energy, and it made it all the more surprising that Berman was removed. Arena. We saw as we mentioned at the top, a little bit of chaos, coming out of the dust, this department over the weekend with very public back and forth between Berman and bar I'm assuming that's not reflective of the traditional process replacing a US attorney. Right it's not and even just to step back a little bit. The appointment of a new US attorney when there's only six months in a presidential term is very unusual in and of itself, because you're then at trying to ask the Senate to sort of burn time to confirm a new nominee who may only be on on the job for a few months, and it's. It's unlikely anyone really wants to. To go through that process to potentially only have it for for a few months, so it's all a very unusual time to be doing this and then to do it through a press release on a Friday night eight without having even clarified with that individual that yes, you are going to be stepping down, and then sort of having the chaos of the next eighteen hours play out is very unusual. Stewart to. Point in terms of how this actually went down if you will is that an indication that the president could be really concerned about what Berman's findings were going to be before he leaves office. It's hard to read. a mind like that especially mind that so disordered, but look at the circumstantial evidence it comes on the heels by a day of the Bolton revelations dominating the front page it follows the termination of five inspectors general including the prospective inspector general, who's going to oversee the Care Zach funding with some. Some of which seems to have gone excessive measure to people who were aligned with the with the president. There are a lot of issues of corruption here, and and the it was reported yesterday in a number of outlets that the president had been concerned about the US Attorney's office in in the southern district, starting with the Coen prosecution so I mean that's the evidence that we have, and it suggests an interesting thing. I and others might checks and balances, group and the the Lincoln Project have all been focusing on on the. affronts to the rule of law, and and Thar, Teheran ISM, and it would seem that if indeed the president was involved in this berms, discharge wouldn't have been enforced without the president, so we take it at that, but it looks as if the president is at at the helm with respect to these affronts to the rule of law. Then the Attorney General Bill Bar is just acting as button man. He's carrying it out. They do want to sort of step back and look at bill bars tenure so far. Can you give us some examples of other times? That bars come under fire. Sure and I will also just add that our understanding is that the attorney general and US Attorney Berman had sort of clashed going back from the beginning of bars tenure as attorney general, and he had tried to replace him year ago, and then there were cases that came out that sort of made it politically untenable, and so this has been something that he the attorney general has been trying to do for a while. We don't think that it explicitly was precipitated by anything in a civic investigation right now that prompted it just just to add that, but he has come under fire. From a lot of critics for various decisions that he's made that seemed to be more in line with the president's interests rather than the Justice Department's interests arena on Friday attorney general Bar said the president will be nominating Jay Clayton who is the current chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission to ultimately replace Berman any idea why Clayton. Administration thinks pretty highly of Mr Clayton. He expressed interest in this job at the US attorney in Manhattan and they decided to give it to him. It's an unusual choice in the sense that most people picked for that job have previously been prosecutors, not only been prosecutors, but also prosecutor's office and he was neither and we mentioned again. We have to remind our listeners that Berman was trump appointee. He was appointed by then Attorney General Jeff Sessions so wondering what are congressional Democrats. Saying about his ouster, a lot of congressional Democrats have sort of criticized the move over the weekend, and you have even. Lindsey Graham the chair Republican chair of the. The Senate Judiciary Committee whose committee would have to. I vote on this nomination coming out and saying he had not been consulted, he would defer to the Senate tradition of giving the home. State Senators essentially sort of Victoria power over who the nominee is, and you have both New York senators, coming out and basically calling on Mr Clinton to withdraw his nomination, and so it seems unlikely that he is going to actually end up getting confirmed you know this year. If trump does get re-elected than perhaps he would have a better chance at that point Stuart I'm wondering whether or not you know because we're talking about the system here. Does the system for appointing and dismissing US attorneys. Canopy rework. Does it need reworking? Does this moment call for a reexamination of how this is done? No it really doesn't The Vacancy Act works quite well and you can see it working well in the sense that the administration has shot itself in the foot with regard to this. Explain to our listeners and to me, what the Vacancy Act is because I'm not well versed in that the vacancy act deals with exactly this kind of question what happens when there is a vacancy of a constitutional officer that is one who has been confirmed by the Senate and here where there is a vacancy created by the action of the administration. Who is it that serves in the interim? It is generally a constitutional officer. Officer or the first assistant, and that's where the administration is not getting its its own way what it had wanted to do. Move Berman out. Replace him on an interim basis with the US attorney from New Jersey. WHO has had no other connection with southern district of New York and then proceed with the permanent replacement of Mr Clayton. That's not what's what's happening. that's that's been untracked by a variety of things including. Including the disarray that we've been reading about in the in the protests from from various quarters, and so what is ended up is if there was a question on attorney, general bars, mind or the president's mind that the southern district was acting independently now they get the first assistant. United States attorney serving on an interim basis and she is a professional. She's been involved in the affairs of that Office for a long time. Time. She's a tough prosecutor. She's taken on very worthy adversaries and defeated them in court, and there's very little question that she's not going to do a fine job and be at least as independent minded is the person she succeeded Stuart. Gerston is a former assistant attorney general who served under? President George H. W Bush and Ruina Vishwanath is reporter covering the Justice Department for the Wall Street Journal. Thanks, Cheapo, thank you, thanks. In Two thousand, Sixteen San Francisco Forty. Niners quarterback Colin Kaepernick knelt on one knee during the national anthem to protest racial inequality and injustice. After that the NFL had been very vocal about the league's opposition to Onfield. Player protests this month amid ongoing uprisings across the united. States against police brutality towards black people. The League has reversed that Stamps Reap the National Football League, condemn racism and the systematic oppression of black people. We the National Football League emit. We were wrong for not listening to NFL players earlier. Encourage, all speak out and peacefully grotesques. Read, the National Football League leave Mike Lives matter. That was NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell issuing a public apology on June sixth last week Goodell told ESPN that he would welcome and encourage teams to sign capper Nick who've been shut out of the league since two thousand seventeen, meanwhile other sports leagues including the MLB NBA The WNBA, even Nascar have all shown varying levels of support for the black lives, matter movement and for improving racial equity, but whether the leagues are actually planning to backup those words with action is another matter to talk more about how the sports world. World is addressing racism and player activism. I was joined by Michael Fletcher a senior writer for ESPN's enterprise team was standing moment. You have the head of this kind, our number one sport in America. Kinda come out and sodas. Be so given and saying that. Hey, we should be backing social justice movements, and we were wrong in the past, so it was just a wow moment. Roger Goodell did not mention Colin Kaepernick by name, which is kind of astounding given that Kapernick is the reason why we're even having this. Right now Michael Bennett called Roger Goodell's black lives matter message quote. It was almost like a slap in the face. How are other folks responding to Goodell and the NFL right now? Given this sort of omission of capper nick. Oh you know there's a mix addict. Are Some people who look at it as genuine gesture at least in not only. Did you know Goodell? Make this announcement, but he also pledged a even a quarter billion dollars over ten. To sort of add to the NFL kind of social justice initiatives the fund, some community groups and things like that in conjunction with something called the players coalition, so some people are. They're heartened by that, but at the same time. Many people like Michael Bennett they think it's if not a slap in the face, they is just another sign of rank hypocrisy, and even Malcolm Jenkins who in some. Player now for the new, Orleans Saints, who was a leader of the players coalition, who and who many people in cabinets camp, soy's maybe undermining cabinets interests except an NFL's money to begin with. He even came out and said that cabinet should be given a job in NFL and this. This really is not complete unless that happens the last time you and I spoke Michael. It was regarding the NFL partnership with Jay Z and I'm wondering whatever happened to that. Did they actually make any change for the black community with that partnership? It's unclear only thing we know they're rock. Nation did with the NFL was sponsored last super bowl halftime show kind of bring talent together for that deer was some sort of fan gear branded gear social justice branded gear that was sold in conjunction with this effort, and the proceeds of which would. Would go to community groups, but beyond that it's it's hard to know the main SORTA. The harshest interpretation and I'm not saying I endorse this, but I've heard people say it is that you know essentially league used Jay z's presences cover I, in having this conversation, I'm not only thinking about Colin. Kaepernick, but I'm also thinking about Laura. Ingraham's remark to Lebron James for protesting years ago where she said he should just shut up and dribble. Athletes are doing a lot more than shutting up and dribbling right now, Michael, what is the NBA or the WNBA. Have they been protesting as you look around the world? What's become kind of the? Gesture in this moment is to is to take a knee and you've seen it to NBA players as well and WNBA players most notable I think. Is Lebron James Arguably the biggest star in all of sports in America who launched a campaign for voting rights, and to get people to the polls, and trying to move beyond that realm of protests and move into action that will really bring actionable change, and the WNBA plays have been the same. WNBA is probably the most socially conscious league I think out of all the professional leagues. That I know of those women are plugged in. They're smart and they're active so. It feels like Laura Ingraham's on the wrong side of history here far from shutting up and dribbling, athletes are taken action. Laura Ingraham not to make the segment about her, but she did defend drew brees. Well you know well drew brees? Is We and I'll say this, but you agree it's just a DEF-. Defend for a second of drew. BREES is one of the most generous philanthropists, the NFL, his foundations, giving away millions and millions of dollars to help causes in new, Orleans, and beyond so drew brees has been a good person, but drew bees for a moment sort of. Of went off the rails and and described cap protesters, disrespecting the flag, which of course played into the narrative. That president trump is tried to put out there. There are many people who oppose. CAPITEC tried to put out there and everyone knows that that's far from what cabinet had money but breeze himself was at statement, and even after he withdrew with President trump tried to. To put pressure on him and drew, brees would not yield. He said you know it was a mistake and I don't think it's just a PR thing I. Know Drew Brees personally but I know people who know him and they say that that that's a good dude, and you know he misspoke, or you said many what he meant, but he didn't realize how would be. Be Taken maybe, but he certainly was joined that position Nascar recently announced that they were banning confederate flags in terms of their symbolism. Confederate flags feel like a little old Michael to be banning right now, but apparently they were part of what NASCAR does. What does that signify? There is only from what I understand. There's one black NASCAR driver who is driving around. With black lives matter on his car. That's right. BUBBA WALLACE AND The confederate flag for for for worse if for better west, but just for worse has been assemble that some people have often taken with them to to Nascar races, and it was in that context. People would argue people who would. Who would salute theflag would say I was just a sign of heritage and things like that. It's not a racially hateful symbol, which of course I think, it's preposterous, but nonetheless that's what they'd say. But they banned that knowing that the head of NASCAR made a statement in favor of a black lives, matter and and many NASCAR drivers have backed up I think it just speaks to kind of the astounding moment that we find ourselves in this country. It's really. Striking Emma we've seen and not just sports, but obviously in corporate America. Everyone is uttering the words now. Black lives matter. Obviously remains to be seen what people mean by that, but certainly we're in a moment now to I don't think any of us would have predicted even six months ago. Michael Fletcher senior writer for ESPN's enterprise team. Always a pleasure to have you on. Thanks for joining us. Thank you. And we have an unfortunate update to talk about regarding bubble Wallace. Today Nascar announced that a member of Wallace team found a noose hanging in their garage stall. At the Talladega speedway. The team member then reported the incident to Nascar in a statement. The racing organization said quote. We are angry and outraged, and cannot state strongly enough. How seriously we take this game this act! For a lot of people who are in therapy, dealing with family issues is one of the biggest topics of discussion as we continue to see the uprising for racial justice. We wanted to have a conversation about the unique challenges. Facing black parents, said round out the show we delve into the personal story of one man. I'm Abdul, Ali and the writer I living in Baltimore, and I'm a fellow with the Robert, W Deutsch Foundation this year. Year growing up Abdul had a very complicated relationship with his father. He was absent often on. Certainly he had his own demons that he had to fight, and as a result that led to a lifetime of complicated emotions towards his father, but now Abdul. Himself is a father. And he said he realized he needed to grapple with his feelings towards his dad to nurture his own relationship with his daughter and for Abdul. Therapy was key. And he recently wrote about it for the Boston Globe, but ultimately I think what I wanted to do. And this was something new for me was to try to. Frame him in a complicated light, not just in a negative light, but in a complicated light which meant that I had to see some of those. Moments that we shared together and that's what I tried to capture the Peace Abdul and I spoke about his journey, and understanding the anger, he felt towards exploring his own personal growth to ditch harmful stereotypes. I think that at thirty six. I saw that you know if I didn't make a shift I would become a cliche. I would become an angry black man, and I did not want that to happen, and so I've been doing a lot of work you. You know lots of hours and therapy, and kind of reimagining how I want to be in the world not just for myself, but also for my daughter because it's all connected, you said you didn't want to be an angry. Black Man I often think about how anger is something that black people and more broadly people of color are often not allowed to experience. So, what do you mean when you say you didn't want to be that? So. I didn't find it particularly useful certainly. I. Mean How long can you hold a grudge right? And so it's almost like playing this game of holding your breath underwater. Eventually, someone's GonNa Drown so I wanted to speak truth to power. I wanted to put my self on notice. Put My father on notice, and just you know. Put some different energy out. There I knew first hand that many folks in my age group were going through the same thing, and it's like we gotTa heal ourselves right I. You know we may never get to change the generation, but we heal ourselves first and create some new traditions and trajectories, and our families Abdul One of the things that I find difficult writing from the perspective of a of a Puerto Rican slash New, York. person here Latina is. Wanting to be truthful and also not wanting to quote unquote era, thirty laundry right to largely white audiences That could potentially continued to say. Oh, look, you know you're falling into those stereotypes. How were you able to work through? Some of the the sort of concerns that I think a lot of black and brown people have when it comes to talking about the difficulties in the nuances in our upbringings had I stayed on a superficial level and just talked about all the things I was angry about I. Think I would have been in a stereotypical space, but I would like to think that I went I broke the ice and went deeper than just a superficial level and I got to see you know my. My father as humid as human. We are foll- and were vulnerable and were fragile and sometimes victims to the Times. You know that we were born into in the circumstances that we're born into, but also we can be victorious and try as well and and I think I think I'm a better person you know having gotten to know who he is and you know he's not a passive person. He's a fighter and I would like to think that I. Get some of that from him. Another part of what you mentioned earlier and sort of how you found some healing. In the relationship with your father, at least from your perspective has been therapy something that communities of Color Black and Brown communities are now I think beginning to show some more acceptance to but I think there's still some cultural barriers of in the way there. How did you find therapy worked for you? Were you able to really feel vulnerable enough to? Work, through some of these issues with your therapist. With the right therapist. Yes, you find someone that you feel comfortable with it. You know in my case finding therapists of color. You know where you don't have to explain a whole lot of things and you don't have to worry about the white gays or you know or anything like that I think that is very helpful. and there are resources out there. To help locate you know therapists of color and I was grateful to do that. But for me, I think it was probably a show of strength to be able to say I'm not okay. I've been carrying this and you know and I don't even know what it's like to walk straight because I've been carrying this load for decades and to be able to be in a space where you can put it down and then open it up and see. Is this your stuff you carry or is this someone else's style? And it's great to be able to have that perspective and I think that's that strain I mean I think that? It's important for us to prioritize our happiness, our wellbeing and to not normalized pain because I think that that's kind of a message. I think that we get growing up. This is just the way it is, but I think when you push back on that and say well. Maybe there's another way I think that's where therapy and other things can sort of. Present alternate routes. You know to having the life that you want. I know this sounds very zen and I don't mean to sound that way, but I just think that just taking things as it is, or as it always has been, you know I. Don't know if that's working well for us. So I think that it's time for us to shift gears and try something else. You know for our health in therapy. The question often comes up I think about whether we're looking to accept things that have happened or looking to forgive the people who we feel have heard us in or wrong us in some way. Abdul when you are in therapy or have been therapy as a black man, confronting the issues that you say have affected you for years with your father. Are you at the point of acceptance? Are you at the point of forgiveness, or is that even? was that even a goal for you? I think the to goal was to hand over this heavy load. You know I dunno, bury it. Burn it something. I think I'm at the place where I, I'm sort of working on the forgiving. You know as a writer memory so important so the forgetting. I think is probably the thing that we can't do but I'm certainly I think humanizing my father, not wanting to vilify him, and to look at his life in a larger context of what was happening in our country in inner cities. You know I think that that is really been an interesting journey because that's something I didn't have the capacity to do. When I was younger. It was easy to kind of rely on these tropes. These stereotypes that we hear of. Its journey I'm grateful for the journey and I also accept that things may never be what I want them to be because you can't make up that time, so that heart is a little sad, but I mean what an interesting relationship! He and my daughter have and that's quite interesting to watch. Abdul Lee is a Baltimore based writer and a fellow with Robert. W, Deutsche, Foundation. Thanks for joining US thank you for having me. So. We wanted to hear from you about this. Has Therapy shaped your relationship with your parents? It is immoral Williams and I lived in Andover Massachusetts. There has been tremendously helpful for me in killing from my Lucien ship with my mother, my mom was a single parent and also schizophrenic We had a really come relationship, and early on in my childhood I was the one taking care of her. My mom was very abusive and I learned over time to make peace with her whole rainbow of all find motions about her certainly loved her but I also felt anger shadow small. Compassion and I realized through therapy that it's all allowed. My mom died in two thousand six, and I'm so glad that I was able to find some peace with her, and within myself before she died. Hi, this is Elizabeth Jarvis Colleen from Oakland California. My mother had undiagnosed bipolar disorder in for her line personality disorder. When I was a child, my father worked long hours, and my mom could be very cruel. Brothers became heroin addicts. I didn't want to do the same thing so I got into therapy when I was about sixteen years old, so therapy has been a mainstay in my life and has really helped me. I learned early to accept my mom's cruelty and have compassion for her. Obviously, someone got her when she was very young and it changed to. She was hi. My name is Stephanie I live. In Minneapolis I was lucky enough to find a therapist Pandemic with starting. To Trust US my relationship with my self destructive father He lost his job eight years ago and has never bounced back. He's essentially homeless right now, and there's nothing that anyone. In our family can do to help him. My brother and I have both tried helping him over the years, and she's never been able to help himself or admit that he has his own mental health problems to work through, so it's been really difficult to help him when he can acknowledge that there's a problem and my therapist has been able to help me name these emotions so that I can process what my own emotional needs are being able to name. My feelings brings a lot of clarity to my life and I really believe that there are essential workers. This is man Baker I live in Dallas Texas. And yes. Therapy has helped me. Keel relationships with my parents. I have to learn to say the young. Tell by hidden. And Fund compassion for both my parents and myself. Hi, this is Katrina. From people would high have used their P for relationships of all sorts, but not for the relationship with my parents and I probably should because so much of what we learn. Through our lives is about how we were raised children and was raised in a separate. Home with parents who divorced and all kinds of issues, but I'm okay now for hasn't thought I needed therapy. This is Lynn coin from Chan House, and I guess I participated in years and years of therapy My parents divorced when I was thirteen. My mother moved away and my father's new wife moved into the home. That I grew up grew up in. It was very difficult. Time for me I was angry for many years until I took the time to go extensive therapy as an adult. To understand that my parents are human and had emotional needs of their own. Another Monday in the books folks thanks for being along with us for the ride. We've got a big week ahead of us with a lot of good conversations. We'll be back with you tomorrow. I'm Tansy Vega. This is the takeaways.

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Undercover FBI agent Bob Hamer

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How're you doing today? Bob Hey thanks Jerry. I'm doing well. I'm really excited to have you on. I mentioned to you earlier but you will be my eighth. FBI agent. And I find it really fascinating that I can get all these different agents in everybody's doing a different job. Well I think that was one thing that always interested me with the FBI that we weren't really limited to just one particular violation and you could work a violation for four or five years. And if you put your time in you put in some paperwork and you could probably get transferred to a different squad that would work a completely different violations so I always found that a great part of the FBI. Be I it it kept things new and interesting and you just kind of get burned out with investigating the same type of cases. Che's yeah that's going to be out from what I understand it. I probably the numbers could have changed or I might have got a messed up but I understand there's around ten thousand FBI agents. It's and from what I've heard from you. You know in doing research out of that many agents. There's only maybe one hundred to one hundred fifty who actually AH undercover. Yeah you know I never knew the real numbers but the way the undercover program works in the FBI. It's not like television where the supervisor adviser walks out in the squad bay says. Hey we need a contract killer today to somebody WanNa play that role and you raise your hand. The FBI has a selection in process. You have to apply you have to be approved by several different levels of administration once you're proved at the local level then it goes back to headquarters and then they have a two week in service which is kind of a selection process. They want you to I think it's like Marine Corps officer candidate school or or buds training for the seals. It's not it's not that hard lie. There still. Is that selection election process so some guys not everybody wants to work undercover. That's one thing I want to make clear it's not the most sought after position in the FBI but some of those. That apply aren't approved by the different levels of administration. They maybe don't pass a psychological background in terms of being the loner the self starter that type of individual and then some people can't get through the two weekend service because they they can't take the stress of that two weeks and then a Lotta guys once they are proved and they work one or two undercover assignments. They just decided. This isn't for me that the hours are are to their to unpredictable. The cases are too dangerous. And I really don't WanNa do this anymore. So it turned out that maybe at any one time there might only be one hundred or one hundred and fifty people with in the FBI that are certified to work undercover and even amongst those there were probably just a handful of us that it spent much of our career in various undercover assignment. So there were a few. I'm not quite sure. Who are? You've interviewed but guys like Jack. ARSIA myself I mean. We spent most of our career working various undercover assignments. So it was just we gravitated catered toward that. And that's what we like to do. You've also kind of mentioned these seemed to be sort of an independent spirit. I think you wrote like an apology in your forward that that was the one time you actually follow the rules to the letter. Yeah when I I wrote the book the last undercover which here's my first book I've actually authored Co authored nine books but the first book you when you're an FBI agent and you write about the FBI you have to submit it for approval approval from headquarters and the only the only push back. I got from the bureau was that I couldn't name the names of the agent so where I put their names in the original manuscript. I had to replace those with my case agent or the surveillance agent or something like that so that that was that was one rule that I followed is that because they were still active Yes okay so if everybody was retired then you could name names. Yes I guess I think so. I haven't written a book like that. And maybe they would allow that to go through okay. I know there's interesting rules from what I understand. Dan and I've also had secret service on and CIA so that was interesting. Like I understand that you can't profit while you're in the FBI. I I by writing a book on the side you need to be retired. Is that incorrect. I think so. There have been a couple agents that have written books but they've been almost educational. Books are technical books so it hasn't been. This is my life as an F. B. I. Agent as an undercover agent. Or this this is about the case that I work. It hasn't been those type. It's been more of I think cybersecurity type books that have been approved but for the most part art. Yeah you have to be you have to be retired to write it and the FBI does not allow outside income so oh we can't have second jobs and I'm sure the bureau would view a book that was written for profit to be outside income. See I find that interesting because I know one act of CIA agent. who did write a book in? I interviewed him about it. So obviously the different services have different standards words. That actually surprises me but well it was funny because I didn't realize but he got really quiet when I asked a couple questions and I am not familiar with that I was like. Oh you're not oh okay and I cut it interview neither confirm nor deny that it was worth it just to get that reaction now now back to undercover cover career for money or send you did apply to be on the CIA at one point. Yeah I spent four years on active duty Marine Corps and as I was was getting out I was really seeking something interesting exciting and had applied to the CIA and literally scored a zero on personality analogy tests that they gave so they. They weren't too interested. They had the test they gave. They scored you from zero to ten. Zero could essentially live on a deserted island for the rest of his life and be content and a ten had to be constantly surrounded by people and I admit that I somewhat skewed my answers. I assume that they were looking for people that they parachuted behind enemy lines and he stayed there for the three months and then he whacked the Third World dictator and they extricated him by helicopter or something. Yes they're thinking recon down right. But that's not what I did a lawyer for Rigel. Yeah I don't like to talk about that. Yeah I don't. I don't Brag about being a judge advocate Marine Corps. I I'll brag about being a marine. I try to avoid telling everybody what my mos was but Yeah yeah so I thought that's what the CIA was kind of looking for and the psychologist. When he came back with the results he looked at me and shook his head and he said I've I've never seen zero personality personality and kind of laugh at my wife? We've she and I have been married for forty six years and she still occasionally reminds me that I'm the only I declared by the federal government to be zero personality. But when you when you understand for the most part the CIA as role are working at foreign embassies and getting close to foreign government officials and all right Brian to recruit them to provide US intelligence. So I mean it makes sense that they were looking for somebody that had a little more personality but I think that the actual test and the results a little different. I guess you could say I don't need people it's not that I don't WanNa be around people it's like I really don't need people in relationships and therefore that probably skewed a lot of my answers. I'll definitely want to go into that. A little a bit more later going into being undercover though. What did you think it would be like ahead of time before you went into it when I was going through the academy? We had a couple of people that were counselors that had done some of undercover work. And I just thought that that sounded exciting. I probably probably watch a little too much. TV thinking that. Wow this would be really exciting. I'm SORTA Vet Ephram Zimbalist. The FBI generation were guys were wearing suits and would fleiss their badge and credentials and say FBI and that didn't quite interest me as much as being that guy that nobody knew who he was. That was playing a role. Kinda I was more of the James Rockford type of Guy Way away and so that just interested me so I tried to gravitate toward those type of assignments. I mean once I once yes I got Outta the academy I guess my goal was to eventually work undercover and seek out those opportunities and and it was everything I expected it to be and actually more. Let's cool it's nice when Something fulfils the expectations. Now I ascoli now because I did not realize that you as undercover agent and I don't know how the other services work or local police but you would work multiple cases at the same time that surprised me you could. That didn't always happen to me. But but toward the end of my career. I always kinda laugh that I was one of the few certified undercover agents on the West Coast. So if they we're looking for I get the I O U cases so if they were looking for somebody that was impotent old and ugly they would contact me so I'd toward the end. I was working three undercover cases at the same time. And that was. That was a little too much. I mean it was pretty stressful. Quite frankly quickly it was stressful from the FBI administrative standpoint. Not from the bad guys standpoint. I could have. I think I could've easily worked even more undercover cases if I didn't have to fight a lot of the bureaucracy that comes with any the undercover assignment. When I'm curious how do you maintain an identity on multiple cases or do you just have one identity and you can be both both appear and a thief at the same time right? Yeah the the three cases I worked one was a major case called Operation Smoking Dragon. And and it was a cig- retargeting and Asian criminal syndicate that that lasted three years so I was undercover for three years on that Particular Investigation Association. At the same time I had infiltrated a group called NAMBLA. The North American man Boy Love Association which was a group of pedophile. Dell's men that were sexually attracted to boys and then I was actually working a Vietnamese gang case. So I- maintained the same backstory for all three of those that I was an older man. I mean I had the same name. I had the same undercover credit cards and undercover identification. Identification okay. I was an older man. I was handicapped. I had some real estate and I had some financial investments and accounts. I had clients that I worked for so it was. It was the same with all three of those so it wasn't like Oh my gosh today. My name is Eric and and and I'm in a weapons case and the phone rings and wait a minute when this number dials in Charles and I'm a pedophile. You know so it wasn't it wasn't anything like that. Okay well I just. I had to clarify that in my head to get around that and I guess that makes sense because you can be a pedophile. Who runs a warehoused oust that is allowing cigarettes to go through for a living? Yeah and I'm guessing that maybe I'm wrong but maybe the more more more of a criminal you are the more variety you have the better each cover reinforces themselves to a certain extent. Yeah I mean when we worked The Vietnamese gang case I I was someone that was dealing with counterfeit cigarettes so I talked about that and can talk about got it openly and even at one point provided them with some counterfeit cigarettes so it added to my credibility when I was dealing with the gang members also no I wanted to also check with you on. I guess you'd call it a very different kind of undercover guest. Jack Doc Barsky and he ultimately had a run in with the F. B. I. himself but he was a KGB agent. Oh Wow and he lived here in the United States for ten years as a fake citizen he was born in east. Germany smug came in and establish an identity entity and ultimately quit and he's the citizen now of the US great guy but one of the things we discussed was. He's suffering to this day as he put it with a near personality split because of having to maintain I mean he literally had a family only here in a family in Germany. Oh Wow okay and children both now. I'M NOT GONNA say yours is extreme. But I'm I'm wondering do you. You have any kind of effects of having to maintain two very distinct identities. No I maybe my wife if you interviewed her she'd tell you issues but no that that wasn't a problem for me. I I honestly believe that. God bless me with a pretty screwed up brain and I could very easily compartmentalize so that I could. I could be the the the contract killer her and then I could go home and be the little league coach or be the husband. Be the father. Be Sunday schoolteacher. I mean I I was able able to compartmentalize and never really. It was never that I didn't know who I was at any particular time I knew when when I went undercover. I assumed that identity I was that person and then as soon as I came. HOMER MERGE A guide back in to the Bob Hamer Life I was Bob Hamer so I I didn't. I didn't have that was humor tether for you because I know you've talked about having a habit a plane songs on your radio. Oh Yeah Yeah. I think that's a a lot of that somewhat. Kept Me Sane. I I think what happened. And maybe if you've talked to it sounds like you've talked to some pretty interesting. I think people on your podcast but the first time I went undercover it really was the first meeting was pretty innocuous he was but I came away with an adrenaline rush. I mean this was. This was exciting for me. I'd actually gone in to it in the meeting. My knees were shaking and it wasn't because I was scared it was because that adrenaline was just coursing through my veins and I even said as God stop the knees shaking because he sees the knees he's GonNa think there's something up and when I got done with that very first meeting it was like oh my gosh. What a rush and I wanted to it was almost like I was chasing the Adrenaline Dragon? So every every time I'd have a meeting I was trying to kind of up at a little bit more up the danger a little bit more just to get that same rush that I had from that very first I meeting so I would. I would try to do things but I also I wanted to see how far I could push it but I wanna have fun while doing it so yeah I mean you mentioned the music. I'm a country and Western fan so I mean I. That's one of the funniest ones I had was. I was involved in a sixty sixty million dollars shoulder-fired missile deal and every time the bad guy got into my car and I turn the ignition on. It was cute to Charlie Daniels Song uneasy writer in the first line. You hear on every tape is on every undercover tape. The first line you here is is. Don't you know what this man's spy he's undercover agent for the FBI. And then it's Charlie Daniels finishing up the song and I would play Jailhouse Rock folsom prison blues. I mean I'd have bad guys in the car. Literally Kinda dancing to the music as riding riding along and I'm I'm playing playing these songs I get one case I I always I guess in some ways I I kind of viewed it as a TV show. So I would have my own soundtracks and I had one guy gave me two kilos crystal meth and I timed it perfectly and it wasn't visual because it was audio I didn't have a camera it was just the audiotape. But just as he's handing the the two kilos closer crystal meth. I've got it played Herald Melville and the blue notes are singing. If you don't know me by now you'll never ever know me and I just Kinda says it all POW well then okay. There's a couple things that I can think of what that number one the fact you're so concentrating on getting your soundtrack trek right has to relieve a lot of stress. Because you're you're playing a game and that takes something away from the situation probably makes you come across is even calmer. No I think so. Also it's so blatantly obvious that it's seems unlikely and it reminds me. I'm going to reach back to Jack Barsky again. But when he is training he had to go all over Moscow etc and pick out people who might be tailing him so he would do this for days time. They have twenty thirty people and he'd have to give reports reports on who they all were and he only missed one person and it was a he was a person that he had seen before though. But what this guy. Why did is when he's when he saw him kind of met? The Guy Walked up to Emma bummed a cigarette. Okay Yeah and I. I think think there is a lot of truth to the more obvious. You are the less obvious you appear. I wore gangster five years in south central. La I'm a white guy and I was buying drugs. dugs from crew members midnight by myself in an old beat up pickup truck and when we finally broke the case and we arrested thirteen members of these various crip sets and the One guy had sold me rock cocaine on five different occasions. And I said you you know you had the suspect the white guy come down here to buy drugs and he looked any sugars head and he said you know we figured the police would be too stupid to send a white guy down here. Oh Oh my God it was just it was just I mean. It was just too obvious. They didn't they didn't pick up on it. I mean I've laughed after if you made a movie of my life people wouldn't believe it. Because you wouldn't cast Bruce Willis to be buying drugs legs in south central. La You wouldn't cash. Bruce Willis to be working in Asian criminal syndicate. I mean you'd get you know Jackie Chan and you'd get Chris rock or somebody like that. The play those different roles but I was able to do it. I was able to to to pull it off and sell whatever back story story that I developed. Well can you describe the one I feel like if the story makes sense you know then everybody will fill in details now with the operation. Was Smoking Dragon. You right tablist yourself as a property owner right and you happen to have a warehouse are house something like that right. Yeah I had. I had a warehouse. We found out through source that one of the top. Well well the top importer of counterfeit cigarettes on the West Coast was looking for one. He wanted to try to make sure that he could get his cigarettes in through the port of Los Angeles or Long Beach to the biggest ports in the world and then he needed a place to store them and then he wanted the ability to have them transported anywhere in the in the nation. So we came up with a back story that we would have the warehouse that I had access for long haul truck drivers and occasionally i. I might be able to help get this stuff. Get his containers through the ports without being seized because I had a few guys at work the port but only if they work the same days could I get their containers through so we I mean obviously we were working with customs and Immigration and they knew what we were doing and they had a limit on how many containers they were going to allow us to bring through and for the bad guys container of counterfeit cigarettes. They were investing about a quarter of a million dollars so if those containers did get sees they were out quite a bit of the money so they were willing to pay me to guarantee that that would go through so occasionally we would help them can get a container in and then we were using those cigarettes once they got in to track them. The bureau was really. This was sort of a twofold old investigation one. We were very concerned about what was getting into the port and how it was getting in and those people that were bringing in to avoid taxes axes committing crimes but also a lot of these counterfeit goods particularly the counterfeit cigarettes. Were filtering down to the MOM and pop grocery stores doors some of which were owned by Middle Easterners who were using the proceeds to finance terrorism. So it was kind of a two prong investigation investigation. Let's get the people that are bringing in the counterfeit cigarettes and let's identify those people that own the stores that are using the cigarettes stand finance terrorism out of curiosity. You've mentioned something before about always being very focused on how juries are going to accept you as has a Witness how do you look ahead. While you're building a case and cover entrapment concerns. Well I think that's that's a great question because as an undercover agent actually a as a police officer as any investigator. You've gotta think like a defense counsel you have to recognize. How are they going to be able to break down this case you're required as the FBI agent has investigator to prove each element of the offense beyond a reasonable doubt? So you gotta think like a defense counsel okay okay. I can't give them this line of attack on this case I've got fill fill in all the elements and then I. I can't give them a defense so on the entrapment issue. You always have to make sure that it's really initiated By the defendant that they're the ones that are that are talking about it you. You're not you're not asking them to commit a crime that they're not predisposed to commit so it's just it varies with with the investigation but a good example into counterfeit cigarette case one. Another one of the targets was a female and she worked very hard to move these cigarettes and more than on more than one medication. I would just say hey. Why don't you get a real job you? Could you know parties. You're working you get a real job. No I like to party too much. You know. That's why I do this. And so you try to dissuade her and could actually use exactly. Yeah I think you also did that in your later case with Nambla at the last minute. Didn't you say look. The weather's horrible. Why don't we just stall a week where we try it another time? I'm impressed you read the book I appreciate. Thank you yeah. That was a little different situation in that case because we had set up a phony boat that was gonNA take them down into into Mexico where they thought they were going to have sex with little boys and the weather was horrible and I was afraid they were going to back out because of the weather so I was offering offering them the alternative not to back out of the trip but we could take a car and I drive across the border and we wouldn't have have any problems by driving across the border rather than getting on the boat but they they all chose to get on the boat and thus you were covered in the sense because look hey they really really wanted to go right in that particular case and Blah. I was able to establish pretty early on that. They had all had sex with little boys in the past that they had traveled to have sex that they had a desire right to do this so We were able to cover that element fairly quickly and you had to though because if I recall you weren't being supported initially because there was a first amendment issue by it being register organization is that right yes we really weren't targeting nambla the organization we retargeting individuals that were committing crimes. I think one of the US as assistant. United States Attorney said it best when he said NAMBLA is barnyard defecation. We're not going after the defecation were going after the flies that are offering around it and I think that was very true. That's what we were doing. Yeah Yeah and for your podcast. I cleaned up his language. Thank you thank you. What is the most interesting thing that you've encountered being undercover? Oh Well clearly the most bizarre. There's a lot of things that are interesting but the most bizarre was a case that we worked was female circumcision and I was even unaware that it was a federal violation until I was approached to be the undercover agent. But it's it's a violation. I think it was in nineteen ninety six. The Federal Government passed the that female circumcision law and it prevents anyone from performing female circumcision on a person under eighteen years of age except for medical reasons and the FBI had learned of a person that was doing this and almost killed a child after performing the surgery and so we were targeting that particular person now. Interestingly enough even if you read legislative intent it was essentially to go after these somebody from the Middle East who was practicing medicine over in the Middle East and perform these procedures and now has moved the United States and is probably driving a taxicab. Or something I was thinking we immediately more First Amendment questions that may be popping up around that case well not really because of the because it was a law in essence it was practicing medicine without a degree or certification occasion so the person that we ended up targeting the first person ever convicted under that female circumcision act was actually a white. The guy that was Tattoo artists and body modification expert. And the first meeting I had at his his house. We were talking. He presented me with a showed me a bunch of pictures of procedures performed all kinds of. You've Genitalia type of procedures. And he had eight by Tan color photographs of all this stuff that he had done escorted me into his back room where he performed the procedures and we walked into the bathroom and in the bathroom. There were two people sitting in a bathtub of blood. One was a female that had purple hair and another was a skinny white guy on a laptop computer Typing away on a laptop computer and todd who was performing reforming the procedures. He didn't believe in suturing so after he performed whatever procedures he did he. Had you sit in this herbal bathtub. Ask Tub for weeks until you healed and so I walk in and I see two people sitting in a bathtub of blood and there was no way to prepare for anything like that. I mean I would. I didn't sleep well at night. 'cause I think okay if they find my says this to me. How do I respond? So in my mind I rehearsed all these different scenarios for every undercover investigation. That I perform so that sometimes when they'd catch me me off guard I in my mind I had already been hearst that scene one hundred times and it just was able to spit out what what almost sounds to be extemporaneous exclamation in fact. It was something that I'd been rehearsing in my mind for days. But in this case when when you see two people in a bathtub of blood a woman with purple hair and a guy pounding away on his laptop computer there really wasn't any way to prepare sure and I just asked the woman. May I ask what procedure you had done. And she had just had the female circumcision and I said Oh. That's that's you know interesting willingly asking pod to do this procedure on my stepdaughter's and then when I turned to the guy and can I ask what procedure he'd had done he'd actually had his year re through rerouted through his scrotum And arming so there was just. I mean no way to prepare for for those responses so clearly it was the most bizarre encounter that I add in my undercover career. Wow you had mentioned also in the book that sometimes you had more knowledge because of obviously briefings and surveillance and things like that sort and if you were to reveal that knowledge without actually finding it out in in person you are very severe danger. Did you ever have any close calls. No but you're right I mean that is you have to. You have to be able to separate what you've learned in a briefing in what you've learned as the undercover agent. I never had the close call where I made a mistake AAC but there was one case where I was with a couple of the targets. This was an organized crime case. And the one guy hi. His given name was Craig but he went by Anthony and we had another FBI agent. I had a little too much to drink. That was supposed to be my surveillance team. And he referred to who the guy in the company of everyone as Craig but everyone knew him as anthony and I had to quickly come up with an excuse at the time I was posing as a screenwriter and I said that I recognize this guy. He was an old character actor. I said I think somebody did. Refer to you as Craig you know talking to the group of bad guys and they it Kinda bought that and I said that guy is just drunk. He's a character actor in fact I think he's having trouble even getting hired anymore because of his drinking and so they they kinda they kinda bought it but it somewhat Eric. This comes back to the zero personality. I prefer to work by myself shelf. I DIDN'T I. I usually didn't like to work with another undercover agent. I was too busy trying to protect my story and to protect myself and not have to worry about covering for somebody else. I had a couple bad instances surveillance teams so. I prefer not to have a survey on steam because I didn't WanNa get burned so it was just. It was just so much easier to to be out there by myself. Did you go by sensually. Also while you're Arthur just users yeah same always use Bob. It's my first name now. I had my middle name was always there was always a a method to my man. My first undercover name was Robert J born so that that was long before the movies but that was Robert Ludlum and then my second undercover name was was Robert William Wallace from braveheart and then my third undercover name was Robert David Webb which David Webb is Jason. bornes real name. If if you've followed the books yeah so there was again that was just kind of another way to screw who with people really just trying to give hints. And but I always kept Bob. Because I didn't want you coming up to me and in in public going. Hey Bob you know great having you on there on the podcast and this that and the bad guy turns me as I thought you said your name was George Bridge so I always. I always kept the same first name just in case I in case I ran into someone that I knew and another re from a practical tactical standpoint. This happened to me a couple of times when I was dealing with other undercover agents. Were their name. May Be Eric and I knew them. Ms Eric and I talked to them as Eric. And they're undercover name was Willie and now I've got to think okay. I've been calling you you eric for two weeks as we prepared for this case and now we're we're the bad guys either. I gotta remember that your name is Willie and and so I didn't WanNa when it caused any more anxiety for another undercover agent. So I just I always Capitol Bob. Fortunately for me Bob. It was a fairly common name. An anonymous Bob. Yeah it's Bob But I didn't have didn't have some. It's kind of strange name. That just didn't quite fit. Whatever the character I was trying to play now does? Does that. Also help in terms of and I believe you have mentioned it that you keep your fake as close to your real identity entity in some ways like like a really skilled liar is going to be telling about eighty percent of the truth. Exactly Yeah you you you lie as little a-list possible I mean if and I'm I'm being a little melodramatic here but if you're going to get killed you WanNa get killed because of a big lie not because you've been playing like you're single and all of a sudden you you talk about your wife and they said Hey I thought you were you. You know I didn't think you were married. And they end up shooting you over the stupid little line not the big lie so I for the most part I tried tried to keep as much of it as true without sharing that much so it wasn't like I sat around with the bad guys and talked about my kids and my wife and my dog and all of that. You've you've you didn't you. DidN'T I. Try Not to get that purse long running for example. Yeah Yeah and I think your first case you did actually use your wife being pregnant to say hey I gotta go to another town because of a doctor and medical stuff. Yeah she was pregnant and and we used I. I used that as as a reason that we were going to be leaving the area. Okay well reaching back and I know we're getting tight on time. I am curious. How did you live a normal life in the community? And by that I mean. Couldn't you run into these people at home depot you you know for the most part most of my career was spending. La La is a large town. A lot of my undercover work was out of town. That didn't didn't become an issue but there was one time that it hit very close to home. I was undercover agent in the La Mafia family case in in the mid eighties and that week a guy had threatened to break my legs and run me over over with the car because I'd been late with some payments and my daughter who was about six or seven at the time we were chopping at K. Mart now if B. I. Agents shop at K. Mart because they don't make that much money but I didn't think that Tony Soprano shopped at K. Mart and all of a sudden I'm I'm with my daughter in K.. Mart holding her hand and I look up and here comes the guy that has threatened to break break my legs and run me over with a car and I I grabbed my daughter. And we kinda hustled out the the back of Kmart sued the warehouse area and it was a month or two later. We actually a parent teacher conference. And my doc. My daughter's teacher mentioned that my daughter said that her dad was very special that he could take her to the place for the regular customers weren't allowed to go a kmart so the mouth of babies. Yeah yeah she didn't she didn't she didn't blow my cover as an undercover agent but So we kinda laughed. Thought that was funny but that was in terms of being with the family. That's as close. It's it's ever McCain been when I was actually undercover. I had a couple pretty close calls with civilians. You said civilians billions Civilians as a family or non-criminal. Yeah nine criminals. I mean I I talked about in the book and in the last undercover but I was was literally sitting in the lobby of a hotel with a half million dollars awaiting two kilos of China white heroin talking with an international heroin dealer or who just told me that his partner was in the lobby with the gun and if anything went wrong I was going to be the first person that they'd kill and in walked a couple apple that I had lived with When I was going to school before I got married and they weren't older couple? This is in Cincinnati. Ohio and I was in Los Angeles. So we're talking two thousand miles away and they walked right into into the lobby. The hotel and the wife saw me and I kind of shook my head very subtly that this is not the time for grips and grins. And she realized something was wrong and Should her husband toward the elevators away from the the main lobby lobby and within about ten minutes Tequila show up and we arrested three international heroin dealers. But it's Kinda one of those things again again. If you saw that on a movie you wouldn't believe it. Yeah that doesn't happen two thousand miles away a decade earlier. If it wasn't gonNA tell that would be less is likely but as a hotel people travel. I could totally see that happening. Well it did. Wow and thank God. She was sharp. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah because they were they were they were great couple. They were Okay I I don't know who your audience is. No no offense to Tupperware people bowl but they were the tupperware distributors Cincinnati. And they were they revive Asia's he would be the guy that would come up and slap you on the back and you you know hey bob how's the FBI type of greeting okay. So at least they knew what you did so when you have that sidelong glance Oh oh all right well I wanNA pull out on a happy note. You've been on Oprah okay. Yeah wow how did that come about when we when we finished up with the NAMBLA investigation the case and we we indited. Eight members of the group's inner circle and one of those members was a PhD psychologists that worked at to Chicago area hospitals. So it made the Chicago Tribune. It was Pretty big article in the Chicago Tribune about about this guy and it was right when Chris Hansen was renewing. What's going on for another season of Catcher Predator? So she he was having Chris Hansen on and I think I I won't speak for Oprah and our producing staff but I think they didn't want to devote the entire show to Chris Hansen so they were looking for some other filler but still along the lines of the child predators and credibility they. They reached out for me. Well awesome now. Where can people find out more bob? Hamer Dot net. Yeah Bob Hammer. Dot Net B. o. b. h. a. m. e. r. Dr Dot Net and. There will be access to my books. So you get to see those or some sample chapters and some quick links if if you're interested in in buying them and if you WanNa get Ahold of me to come and speak to your group I would. I would love to do that for a fee. I'm not well I'm I'm not easy but I'm cheap. But thank you so much for taking the time. Thanks thanks Eric for having me I appreciate it very much So there you haven't Bob Hamer fantastic guest best great story and one here more guests. Please subscribe tell a friend and don't forget to check out the Youtube Channel where you can interact with unstructured. Guess personally when the spirit of sharing of like to present a couple of other shows you may WANNA check out Steve Veronica A- and we we we have a podcast all about podcasting we cover everything related to the craft. How to start a podcast? How to prove a podcast hard to promote a podcast and how to reach a bigger audience so come check out our podcast? pod sounds cool. 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Blowing this Hoax Wide Open # 948

The Dan Bongino Show

1:00:24 hr | 2 years ago

Blowing this Hoax Wide Open # 948

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show. That's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan, Bongino, dbongino show producer Joe. How are you today? Dan is Monday, it's Showtime. So I'm doing good. I'm doing real good there. I am you're you're you're excited to be here. Right. Always. Are you as excited as Robert Smith from the cure member of that band, the QR as excited as he was to be inducted into the rock and Roll Hall of fame? Case you missed it folks here is I love the cure. They were a great band. Here's the cures Robert Smith when asked how excited he is about being -ducted into the rock and Roll Hall of fame. Hi, congratulations that care rock and Roll Hall of fame inductees thousand nineteen are us excited as I am. Sounds of it there. But that is the best seconds of video. You will see a way to kick off the week. I was gonna play that last. And I said to Paula Paula. Let's just throw that one. I I because I really am excited to be here. Thanks Joe for cutting that too. So here's the deal. I did my appearance regularly my Monday morning appearance on FOX and friends, which you all should watch. I do it on the FOX and friends and Saturday morning as well. And this morning, I got the opportunity to kind of tease the segment I'm going to do today on today's show what you're gonna blow your mind about what I've been working on all weekend. How the fix was in from the start Muller knew it was a fixed, and I did a little homework this weekend. And I'm going to blow your mind with an actual timeline. You're going to be able to see the time line. How Muller new the entire time? This was the scam. I know it and we're gonna put a visual up. So for those you listening on the audio worry, it'll all make sense. But if you wanna watch the time line appear Paula was nice enough to pop. Thing for me, a visual timeline, YouTube dot com slash Bongino. You can watch the video of the show as well. All right. 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And then I have I have a whole book full of notes here chill. I of twenty seventeen is when this thing all hits the fan. Here's the lead. Here's what we're going to go with this. Here's the headline. Here's where I want you to pay really close attention to question. No longer is was there collusion that has been the bunked discredited for those you listen to show breglio. It's old news. It doesn't even collusion's hoax. Only idiots believe in the collusion. Hoax and only morons propagated. A sadly, the Democrats fulfilled the roles and doing them. No one. Believes it. It's not a question of the Trump colluded with the Russians anymore. The question. Now, everybody should be asking is it now that Muller's concluded that there is no collusion that no American on the Trump team colluded matter of fact, they were offered to collude and turned it down the question. I was wended Muller fun this out. And what the hell was Bob Muller doing then for six hundred seventy five days. So the headline is what was Muller up to on this collusion probe. If he knew early that. There was no collusion. How do we know? Bob Muller knew there was no collusion. Paula. Let's get right to throw up your time line there and get if you wanna watch it home, YouTube dot com slash Bongino. Don't worry on the audio podcasts at all makes sense. Elaine out for you. Obviously, you are my primary. Consumer the audio the audio file so dope. That time line. We have of course in early July. This is I have this up. I this is the July twenty seventeen time line. Now, remember folks Muller's appointed in may of two thousand seventeen I'm gonna make the case to you. Now, I think he knew in may when he was appointed collusion was a hoax, but just to be fair to Muller. I'm gonna make the argument that no later than July of twenty seventeen he knows this thing is a total hoax. What is he doing investigating into this month wait throughout that time line back up again? July. It is early July around the twentieth that the F B I produces the Peter stroke, Lisa page tax. Now, I have a question Mark on the visual. They were July because the these texts obviously, people within the FBI know about these texts earlier, and I believe based on Muller's prior ties to the FBI is a strong likelihood he gets wind in early July early July about the existence of these texts. Why does that matter why does this July date twenty 2017 where Muller gets the Peter stroke tax matter because the Peter stroke, text, he's the lead investigator in the Trump case, Joe, he's the one texting is girlfriend. There's no they're they're they're texting his girlfriend Lisa page and FBI lawyer. They're both married, by the way. They're having an affair later admits in sworn testimony Lisa page later later admits that there's a possibility as well. As may when Muller was appointed that there was that. There was nothing there that the. Case was kinda Mira was a dream was a fantasy. They notice he's reading the tax. Now, I have that piece up by Fox, News dot com. Samuel chamberlain. It's an older piece. It shows when exactly the the July twentieth day when the FBI gets wind or produces these these Schroeck Tex he produces them they produce them to the inspector general's office. So right now, they're reading the text about there's no there there. How Trump's supporters smell there? Walmart people. They're reading these texts. We have later probably the texture Mandy McCabe as well. Randy McCabe is talking in October two thousand sixteen about how the DOJ is questioning the reliability their source. What am I telling you? I don't want to rewrite the script here. If you're listening to the show a lot of this is old news. But some of this is going to be very very new, especially a explosive little tier one level. Bombshell. Halfway. This is when everybody is reading the thoughts of stroke in page who are live time texting each other at the time. They were doing the investigation about how there's no there there how they have to have an insurance policy against Trump about how his chances of winning share. He should lose one million to one. Ladies and gentlemen. Bob Muller finds out now that this thing is a hoax, stroke, writes it in the tax Joe he tells his girlfriend that if this was leading to impeachment. We could be part of something big and monumental alit. I if I felt that this would was going to go anywhere. I'd be all over it. But there's no there there. This is the lead investigator in the case, folks Muller knows this whole thing is based on the dossier. If you don't understand point one on the time line, none of the rest of the timelines gonna make sense. Because you remember the lead bring it back out to sixty five thousand feet Muller knows the latest July of twenty seventeen because he gets the techs off their next Muller have July twenty seventh with a question, Mark. That's the reported date. When Muller gets the text July twenty seven we're Muller's notified about the texts. I don't believe this, folks. I think Muller gets the tax a little bit earlier at a minimum gets wind from someone in the FBI. If he doesn't get the tech. Specifically gets wind from somebody in the FBI at this point that there's a real problem. Hey, Bob, I've got news for you. There's a bunch of texts that are about to drop. Here may go public that indicate that the lead investigator investigating Trump doesn't believe this case is real not only that it describes a whole bunch of oak conus lors wars like getting fishing lors overseas to lower people in this is bad. Bob. So instead of Muller in two thousand seventeen July of twenty seventeen doing the right thing. I'm sick of all these people all Muller d-, exonerated, Trump Muller and exonerate Trump. Trump exonerated, Trump Muller should have come out July twenty seventeen and said, hey, folks, this case is a hoax. That's not what he did. Okay. Moving on the next piece in the timeline. Now Muller gets wind of it. Instead of coming out publicly and saying this case is a hoax. What does he do? He dismisses Peter stroke who was on his investigative team is investigative special counsel team. He should he choose me. He dismisses Peter stroke, but he doesn't come out clean publicly. Admit this case is a hoax. It's not what he does. Instead, Paul if you wouldn't mind putting up on the screen. This is what he does. According to a piece by Byron York in the Washington Examiner stroke when he's assigned to the mother probe. This is the FBI again involved in the Hilary Clinton Email investigation across fire. Kane who's now on the special counsel Muller dismisses them, Byron York writes this piece new Justice department pro bass in anti-trump text probe what happened to stroke in pages iphones. This was from December seventeen twenty eighteenth. This is fascinating. Listen to this Horowitz, who's the inspector general told Muller, he thought the situation was serious enough to remove stroke and page, Michael Horowitz is the inspector general who uncovers these texts where they're talking about this whole scheme to take down Trump. It goes on folks, listen to this. This is mind blowing yet it appears that the Muller office stripped pages iphone of all its data without ever checking on its contents. And they stripped strokes iphone after a perfunctory check that may or may not have taken note of the content of its text messages when Horowitz asked for and belatedly received the iphones. He could recover. Nothing from them. Do you believe this tell me again, Muller's wonderful guy? I'm gonna backtrack alive. She's me. I've got a little bit of a cold. But I feel good. Don't worry. We told you. I'd never come on the F. I didn't feel like doing it. I feel fine. Just, but that's what my voice sounds a little different today. Muller finds out from Horowitz about these texts this, text expose the scheme. He then removed stroke doesn't give a public statement about. Hey, folks, this is one big hoax. America should move on. He keeps investigating not only. Does it? Keep investigating he removed stroke from the team because he understands this guy's a political liability. They were issued iphones. He's not there. FBI phones. Okay. I want to be clear on this there. FBI phones are different phones. I think they were Samsung's. That's where these text messages at start this whole thing that are uncovered in early July, folks, you so you're tracking me a recovered from stroke and Lisa page who were signed to the special counsel. Pro briefly are issued iphones those phones after they're fired are white. We don't have the text messages. Can you imagine what those say why would you do that? Why would you do that? Why? Because there's something obviously to hide here. Damn again. What is Muller hiding? He's hiding that. He's investigating a hoax, right? Now, watch what happens afterwards. So Muller clearly understands at this point based on these his exposure to these text messages laying out the scheme that he's investigating a hoax who's part of that hoax. Popadopoulos Manafort, all these people are involved in a collusion hoax story that doesn't exist. It's fake it exists in the mind of Christopher Steele. And the FBI. What happens next July twenty sixth manafort's houses rated? Instead of an apology to America for investigating a hoax and being assigned to investigate a hoax, July twenty six they raid metaphors house. In the early morning. Keep in mind. Manafort is not a great guy. I get it. But Manafort is never ever charged with anything related to collusion with Russians at all. Bingo, Paula has an L A times. Screw here's an LA times. Snapshot August night 2017 where they did a little recap of it. FBI Rada Paul manafort's home demonstrates aggressive pursuit of Russia investigation. If you wouldn't mind putting up a cut from that clip. It makes this is interesting further embedded in their this is from the LA times piece the early morning search conducted by FBI agents working on the case supervised by Muller came on July twenty six listen to this folks, I after Manafort agreed to turn over records to the Senate Judiciary committee, which is also investigating the Trump campaign's possible collusion with Russia. Does that make any sense? Tell me again, I'll Mahler such a great guy. Muller knows the cases a hoax. He has the techs instead of his apology. He goes and raids manafort's house. Joe the day after metaphor degrees to cooperate with the Senate Intel committee, why are you rating house he agreed to cooperate? Listen, I can't say this enough. I'm not defending Manafort, I have no dog in that fight. I don't know Manafort, I just know manafort's the key figure in allegations lobbed against John McCain in two thousand and eight when he runs for president against Hillary, and Barack Obama and the Democrats side these manafort's the key figure in the exact same allegations against McCain that he colluded with the Russians. My guests. Here is Muller needs to show that manafort's a really bad guy. Even though he knows collusion's a hoax because he's reading the tax because he wants to save the reputation of the FBI. So we have to rate his house even after he agrees to cooperate. Folks. This is scary stuff. This is like police they garbage here. All right. The time line goes on again, you can follow along with home YouTube dot com slash Bongino, again in the radio audio program. Excuse me. I'll lay it all out. No worries. What happens the next day instead of an apology for investigating a hoax because he has the tax can't say that enough Muller's reading the tax that extra. They go out and they arrest popadopoulos in a speedy quickey PC arrested the airport, July twenty seventh. The next day George popadopoulos despite his questionable role in this whole scheme. I think popadopoulos is is the key to this whole thing because he set up early was there a Fiso popadopoulos. Oh, what about on Flynn? I'll get to that. You see little tidbit later. It's dead of an apology. They rushed to the airport to pick up George popadopoulos on a PC arrest. Folks. I can't explain enough this PC arresting. I was a federal agent. The overwhelming majority of arrests in the federal government, not in the NYPD or the state police because remember when you're a cop you have to understand the data probable cause arrest without a warrant a police officers on the street, he sees a guy assault and other guy and punched him in the face. There's no warrant folks. You don't call and go judge. I need a warrant. I you just arrest. The guy it's called the probable cause arrest you have witnessed enough probable cause evidence that this guy committed a crime that you are allowed to make that arrest. It's not unusual and local policing. Listen to me, I did both. It is very unusual to make a probable cause. In other words, no warrant arrest in the federal government extr. I've never made one. I made a lot of arrests. So my friends when I was a secret service agent. I have never. Made a PC arrest. The way it works in the federal government. Is you go to an assistant United States attorney with a set of facts, they drop arrest warrant, you swear in front of it before they drop a complaint. The complaint is sworn to in front of a judge may be precise. The judge issues in arrest warrant, you show them the warrior, I'm here for your arrest. You take them in the federal government is different because cases, work in reverse. There. You understand the difference federal agency FBI NYPD are not on street patrol. They don't run this crimes where investigators they investigate crimes. Therefore, the information comes in. I you bring it to a judge, and you swear to it. Now a probable cause arrest in the federal government is not a legal at all. It's it's perfectly legal. It does happen. But it is extremely rare. Why the rush to lock popadopoulos? If Muller already knows the case is a hoax. Maybe to shut down the discovery process. Maybe this shutdown later on popadopoulos going out and telling his version of events maybe to bind up popadopoulos just long enough to shut him up to try to find the digital information. That would prove that this dossier had some meat on its bones. Why would you arrest popadopoulos on a probable cause warrant for making false statements to the FBI, folks? When those false statements were made six months earlier in January popadopoulos, arrested, July. Why would you do that seven months early? This is from the markets work hat tip. Jeff Carlson a PC road June four thousand eighteen lays out a little bullet point of this time line as well. So that up on the screen, if you wouldn't mind, my lovely wife, Paula this is from Jeff across this piece here specifically popadopoulos is arrested on July twenty seventh at Dulles airport at seven p an evening you flew in from eunuch, Germany. He was booked the next day at one forty five AM he was checked out to a federal authority at eight twenty seven on July twenty eight twenty seventeen. Here's the key line. No warrant was issued the entire event appeared to be rushed. What's the rush, folks? What's the rush? The rushes to shut these people down. The rush is the somehow put some meat on a backbone of a broken dossier. That Muller now knows is completely utterly false a total hoax document because he's reading the text of the investigators that no it's a hoax. They're texting each other. There's no there there. These are the lead investigators. What else happens in July? This is our new little tidbit of information and astonishing nugget I happen to fall upon recently. A very bright person. I've been working on with this case for a long time who is. Analysis prized by me in many ways, super smart. Sent me a question I had to do some digging on he said, you know, Dan, wouldn't it be fascinating? If the first contact made by the Muller people and Lieutenant General, Mike Flynn and his family. Was in July of twenty seventeen. Wouldn't that be super special? Now keep in mind, ladies and gentlemen, a couple of things here by July of twenty seventeen. I'm telling you Muller knows it's a hoax. He's reading the text. It's a hoax. Also, Paul if you would mind that Washington Post screen shot of the Mike Flynn investigation. Keep in mind, the FBI, I this point has nothing on Mike Flynn here is an article by the Washington Post. I think it's may have come from that undercover Huber count at John w Huber so hat tip to you. I'm not sure where I got this screen shot. So forgive me. I always try to give credit, but whoever put the red lines up. Nice job. I think it was him. Here's an article by Ellen Nakashima, and Greg Miller, January twenty third 2017 Pala keep that up if you don't mind Joe just to be clear here, July twenty seventeen is after January of two thousand seventeen right? Think about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Okay. Thank you very much. I just there are liberals listening who've been facts vaccinated against factors still. We gotta get that out there. Here is an article in January of two thousand seventeen F B I reviewed Flynn's calls with Russian ambassador, but found nothing a listen. Let me read the first paragraph the FBI late December reviewed intercepts of communications between the Russian ambassador. And retired. Lieutenant General Michael Flynn national security advisor to then president elect Donald Trump, but has found no evidence of wrongdoing or elicit ties to the Russian government officials said what the hell is Bob Muller interviewing prosecuting, Mike Flynn four. Why is he reaching out to Mike Flynn in July? Months after this article comes out in the FBI, concluded Flynn. Did nothing wrong. Paula's put the time line up on the screen. They're in mid July. I can confirm that I contact. Now. He already knows. He did nothing wrong. They've already leaked to the Washington Post. Why are they reaching out? Why is their first contact with them in mid July? So now Muller needs to shut down Manafort, he needs to shut down popadopoulos any needs to shutdown Flynn to what to buy them enough time to try to put meat on the bones of the dossier. He knows his fake. What is he doing? Why is anybody celebrating the gross misconduct? A Bob Muller. He serving a search warrant early morning. On that on the house of a guy Manafort who he's never managed to tidy collusion when he knows the collusion allegations in the dossier or a hoax, then they sent her on Manafort Manafort in the dossier. The key player in coordinating, this whole collusion scam that doesn't exist. Why is he going after him? Why is he arresting number two popadopoulos at the airport for a conversation popadopoulos had with the FBI seven months ago. He knows the dossier and everything in it are false. Why is he going after Flynn and requesting documents from Flynn and his family in July when the FBI all ready knows Flint did nothing wrong. What kind of unethical horse is this? Oh muller. He did such thorough. Joe he yeah. As a police state hack, he knew in July at the latest cases, B S. Man. I'm loving this show. So far me to all right. Let me get this in because I'm going to continue. We're not dumb what the July time line. Very cool. I've got a few more points than I wanna move onto something else July. This is the day that it hits the fan. Muller knows it's a hoax and instead of admitting. It's a hoax. He doubles down locking up. Anybody can get as myths on in an effort to thirty of Trump or try to desperately make this dossier look credible. This is a joke. Should celebrate Muller for what police state tyranny gimme a break. Muller? Started tired of hearing it. All right. Today's show brought to you by our buddies. At propercloth, they folks when your clothes fit, well, everything in life seems to go. Well, you don't want those pirates shirts with the wings at the bottom line is with technology. Get close tailored for you. I have proper cloth shirts in my house. Follow how much you love that shirt. They send me is. She does sharp. I got to put a picture up. Eventually. You're more likely to ace that interview that data wherever else you're doing when you have close at make a great impression that are tailored to you. 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That case is important because Jim Komi and Jim Baker are like this now clearly Komi and everybody else. Bob Muller knows that the head guy at the FBI legally who's commes right hand guy right there. They're connected at the hip is under investigation for potential criminal leaks. How does Muller and everybody know this because they're reading it in a circuit dot com piece. It's out there in the public domain now which Paul is nice enough to put on the screen. FBI general counsel James Baker purportedly under the parliament of Justice criminal investigation for allegedly leaking classified national security information to the media, according to multiple government officials close to the probe. Now Muller's that are real. I'll bet Muller knows about this leak of couple of weeks prior to Muller. Komi? Everybody starts to panic now instead of again doing the right thing and coming before the American people with a massive may COPA Joe where sorry we screwed up. This case is a hoax. We misled you. They continue to double down. What else happens in July twenty seventeen additional evidence that people who are in the know on this case who've seen classified documents understand? We are looking at the biggest scandal in human history and political history. I don't want to be too hyperbolic, but bigger scandals but in political history, I say that unequivocally. Muller? Does it? Everybody knows it. No apologies though. They doubled down the GOP response CNBC and wrote a piece about it people in the GOP who seen some of the questionable information. Here's a headline from CNBC House Republicans call for a second special counsel to investigate Clinton, Komi and Lynch article July twenty seventh twenty seventeen so same day the leak about you in Baker. I wonder who leaked that people who've seen the documents now are clearly in their own leak war telling people in the media just how bad of a scam. This investigation is. Folks, I need my crowd sources to go out there now and start looking in July of twenty seventeen. July twenty seventeen for key pieces of information that are leaked to the media. Because this is when the latest Muller finds out he is involved in the biggest political hoax in American history. Here's another one that Cohen piece of information put up that timeline on the screen again. So here we go Muller finds out again in July that the thing is a hoax. What happens in July the AP already reported for us. Michael Cohen Trump's lawyer. Keeping my mother knows. He's investigating a hoax. He's not apologizing. No, no, go after metaphor co after popadopoulos go after Flynn, also go after Michael Cohen is the already reported the AP reported in this little nugget of information, which if you don't know the July twenty seventeen date where you should be paying attention. Remember, remember, the names remember the dates records show special counsel zeroed in on Colin early? When exactly did that happen. This was the piece. In mid-july as they all ready have told us. The AP is already put it out there. That this is when Muller zeros and unkown why what are you? Zeroing in uncommon for. You know, the investigation is a hoax. Well, here's the Khuda grod this entire timeline. Why is all this happening? Well Muller clearly at this point after serving a search warrant on Manafort coming up with no collusion arresting popadopoulos coming up with no collusion targeting. Mike Flynn and his family coming up with no collusion targeting. Michael Cohen Trump's lawyer coming up with no collusion now. Absolving Trump of any collusion to this day because he can't find anything Mahler instead of giving up goes back to Rosenstein, Rosenstein and him confer and what happens on August. Second. The revised scope memo is issued. The scope memo, which you can see well, we'll play some of it onto scream the scope memo, which is revised is largely redacted. I'm not going to read to you the whole thing. But the scope memo was this. Here's why the scope memo happens because Muller was charged with investigating collusion. He can't find collusion. He knows. It's a hoax. No apologies though. He doubles down and asked for new responsibilities which rod Rosenstein dutifully complies with and gives him a revised scope memo and August seconds. Why is it redacted? If you look at the scope memo, you'll see huge chunks of it are redacted. Why what's in there? Are components of the dossier which have already been debunked. Is Rosenstein and Muller conferring on Muller's new charge Sigui after obstruction of Justice. Why Justice would have been to absolve Donald Trump of what you now know already know is clear and unequivocal to be a hoax. It's a hoax. You got worked drop the L take the loss. You got worked. I don't know if you miss that. I was trying to be clear, but the new information air about the contact with Mike Flynn and July is just stunning. Yeah. Stunning. You're not gonna hear that anywhere else. When was railroaded? Instead of apologizing to this guy for what they already acknowledged was a nothing burger, I showed you the Washington Post piece. They doubled down. Flint needs to be pardoned stat. This is a disgrace an absolute disgrace to an American patriot who rose up the ranks to being a Lieutenant General who has overwhelmingly positive accolades from everywhere that he was targeted after they knew this was s to do what to cover their tracks. That's what I think happened, folks. This is really really disturbing stuff. All right. I want to get to something next because. There was something brought up on FOX Chris Wallace. A where I I work at FOX, but I have disagreements with both the news people and opinion people. That's one thing. I like about working, by the way, I was ecstatic to be back with judge Janine on Saturday. Hope you all I loved the bag where whereas I guessed right after Rudy so second Gabba Rudy open to show, and I was awesome. So make sure you watch the clip on my Twitter. I put it up. I really enjoyed. It's great to have a judge in e back. I'm a huge supporter lover to death. So it was glad to have her back. But I like working at FOX because when they hire liberals, they hire actual liberals, some people see that as a so I don't I don't get it like they have a new side as well. And they need to get both sides. But when your side is right. You want people to argue on the other side to it makes your argument that much more salient, but I have this agreement with Chris Wallace. Chris Wallace was on with Bill Hemmer. And he said something that I'm sorry. I just don't believe is true at all. All and I want to proceed that the bunk this using evidence. And I'm happy to go on Christmas show and debate. If he'd like Chris said that the investigation, and by the way, Matt Palumbo has a great piece about this. Awesome piece up at Bongino dot com, which will be in the show notes today. Please go to my website and read read this piece, it'll be in the show notes. It'll be up on that com to bunking the myth that the popadopoulos conversation with Downer started this whole investigation. That is a left-wing talking point folks, it is not true. Why are they saying it? It's very simple because everybody knows the dossier is a hoax right now. And the FBI entire investigation was based on what the dossier. So the FBI signal. We didn't base it on this dossier hoax. We based it on popadopoulos Downer's meeting. It's not true. Don't fall for this. I'm gonna the bunk that. When final read for the day and another great company, and we'll knock this out of the park. So I don't want you guys to be falling into this trap. And ladies, it's nonsense. Okay. There's nobody on the planet like you. 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So my wife leaves, and I go up to the counter my kitchen and get something to drink. And I see this note Polito that up on the screen. This is real isn't that a joke? Sorry, mommy. How am I going to play when I have to clean up? Also, you cannot right on papper. Paper smell rock with dad pen. This kid be priceless. I'm telling you. She is the great. I mean, obviously is my daughter. I love it at that. But how am I going to play when I have to clean up? This is perfectly logical. You can't do two things at the same time. So thereby daughter billion just dropping bombs on his on his wife's like, I can't. I just his Joe's better many times. Right. This can show precocious. It's incredible. It's cool, man. It's cool, man. He's a Cutie law. Right. So getting back this. Yes. Please stop repeating this myth that the popadopoulos Downer meeting in the London bar is what started the FBI investigation. It didn't it is a left wing talking point to get you away from the fact that the discredited dossier was the FBI's entire case. Let's go through the evidence. One by one point number one. If it's popadopoulos is meeting with the Australian embassador is London bar that starts this FBI case where popadopoulos is alleged to have talked about dirt on Hillary, which is not true, by the way down or even Downer. Dismisses that now he says, well, I don't remember him saying that then why was popadopoulos not interview twenty seventeen. Does that make any sense? You have the biggest counterintelligence investigation in American political history based on a tip where you think George popadopoulos is given up the fact that they colluded with the Russians, and you don't even bother to interview him. Remember, he meets with them in may of twenty sixteen popadopoulos meets with Downer. He wasn't even interviewed until January of two thousand seventeen. Folks, I wasn't investigator. I'm not stupid. I've invested. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Secondly. Why is it that on July thirtieth Nellie or from fusion GPS working for fusion GPS that produce the dossier? And her husband, Bruce at DOJ are meeting with Christopher Steele on July thirtieth Christopher Steele gives them information. His the guy who writes the dossier. Some of it Bruce or then rushes over has a meeting with Andy McCabe, ladies and gentlemen, July thirtieth is a Saturday. Think about what I'm telling you now for you federal agents out there. I got a lot of you. Listen to show, I love you ought to death. I mean, it your emails are great. How common is it for a supervisor like Andy McCabe who at the time is the deputy director of the FBI to be working on a Saturday. The answer. How common is it uncommon? I had bosses you couldn't even find out a weekend. They were in a Beezer. They took uphill in a Bs. And maybe that might composite down eighty two. I've just carrying that take pills that Abe's. It's a joke. It's a song. Sheesh. Some people take me seriously when I'm being joking around. These supervisors do not work on Saturdays. So Andy MacKay brushes in on a Saturday the same day, a Justice department official and his wife who's working for the company produces the dossier meets with the guy who writes the dossier, and yet the dossier had nothing to do with the case that's opened up on a Sunday. Yes. The next day by Peter stroke on a Sunday. But no, no. It was the popadopoulos thing, folks. Do you want to stand out stupid? You have to beat a belief is the guy who writes the dossier meets with the wife of a woman working for the company produces the dossier who mates with the Justice department official who rushes over to the FBI on a weekend. Who opens up a case the next day on a Sunday about the dossier? Gus stop repeating left wing talking points. I mean this defies credulity. I you have to do some basic investigative reporting. Third Maccabees already admitted indie McCabe that they would have had no case without the dossier in a December hearing he made up on the hill, but appearance he made he's already said the case what have existed without the dossier. Fourth FBI agent. Michael gator. This is all in Matt Palumbo piece, by the way on our website upon Gino dot com. The bunking this myth about the popadopoulos meetings. Starting this two weeks before the investigation is opened up July of twenty sixteen July thirty first of two thousand sixteen across far hurricane is opened up. And if agent by the name of Michael Gaito, Lou knows Christopher Steele mates with them in London and exchange information, which is likely in the dossier. My gosh. Fair who is the fi- issued on right after Carter excuse me after July thirty first far hurricane cases open. The FIS is issued on Carter page just months later who is a key figure in what the dossier page in popadopoulos have no significant relationship whatsoever. Finally page in Alber. Crossfire hurricane is opened up. This is the kicker, folks. This is really going to blow your mind. If crossfire hurricane is opened up July thirty first of two thousand sixteen. How is an FBI informant spying on the Trump team Stefan helper? How is he reaching out to Carter page show two weeks before that? Ladies and gentlemen, FBI administrative procedures as clearly laid out in my book spy gate. Clearly, laid out even in a preliminary investigation and investigation would have to be opened up to have used a confidential human source, even if it's only preliminary to investigate someone in a counterintelligence probe. How is that? Folks. If the investigation is an open till July thirty first what was opened before that that two weeks earlier to July thirty first the FBI is using his spy a confidential human source to try to infiltrate the Trump team because how permits with Carter page two weeks early. Tell me again, how popadopoulos did this whole thing. Ladies and gentlemen, I did a show about a year ago where it's now clear there were multiple investigations opened on the Trump team. It's clear as day. All you have to do is open your eyes to see it. By the way, folks. One quick administrative note, I just again, a note of sincere heartfelt. Gratitude all of you who picked up my sequel to spy gate on preorder exonerated the failed. Takedown of Donald Trump by the swamp on Amazon and Barnes and noble. It's available now I'll put the link again in the show notes you had us as low as number twelve on our category number twelve on Amazon out of there. What ten million books? I don't even know you all are the best. And I love you to death. And I mean from the bottom of my heart. We put a ton of work in a book to we're about three fifths of the way done. And it is going to blow your mind when I put it on wait till you see the nuggets in this one. So please pick it up today. I sincerely appreciate it. You guys. You guys are amazing. All right. Here's another thing. I'd so I think we clearly if you're paying attention in investigating this is an investigative journalist. Elsewhere are interested in the facts that that is a the bunk talking point folks, it's not true. It was clearly the dossier. That was the central key tentatively FBI's cases. Popadopoulos interviews garbage even Downer disputes what happened there we had a boozy encounter downers like we had one gin and tonic. Popadopoulos of the dirt on Hillary downers. Like, I don't remember him saying third on Hillary. It's all nonsense, folks. Don't buy it. Now. I want to leave you with a final. Do we have fifteen minutes? Yeah. This may be if not I may get smother stuff, but we'll see I was sent a Texas weekend by a source who I've been working all weekend onto this is one of Andy mccabe's techs, we've recently seen and this is a devastating tax because it opens up an entire ball of wax. The text is an for Mandy McCabe sperm, and it talks about the DA g the deputy attorney general being worried about a Pfizer warn. On a on a on a source, and that's sources access policy. You in mind throw a net that text up. This is a devastating text. And it begs the question here who the heck are they talking about? Who are they talking about in this tax? I'll really t- exactly who is your read on my phone here. Here's the tax in caves inbox. DA g talking about deputy attorney general inquired about our plan re regarding that FIS at target if he mobilizes so we know it's a guy, obviously, given the physical access he has let me know if you got the Email, I forwarded from tash ascendance over I'm gonna I me when if we can put a link to this text in the show, I'm going to send this to my wife now because this would be really cool, Paul. I just sent it to you. I know it'll be up on the screen to. So we on the YouTube channel can read it. Think about that text show in Andy mccabe's in-box, they're expressing concern that the deputy attorney general Sally Yates at the time. Sally Yates, who we know hates Mike Flynn. And we know can't stand Donald Trump either. Trump fires or later. This is also right around the time. That Mike Rogers from the NSA goes up to Trump Tower to brief him. And I I don't I'm not I'm pretty sure some information coming out right now about how deep the scandal is. Who is this Pfizer on there? Talking about why are they worried about physical access? I'm working on a potentially explosive conclusion here, and I believe a lot of the evidence may point to a Pfizer. They had. I'm almost hesitant to say it, but I believe on Mike Flynn. Now, what's the evidence for that? Obviously. Oh that to you do too. Because this text doesn't say Flynn, but they're worried about someone would physical access now Flynn, obviously an insider in the Trump team. Obviously, people know he's going to be the incoming national security adviser people understand that Flynn probably still as access to things given his security clearance. If there's a FIS on Flynn, it would make sense that McCabe and Sally Yates who hates Mike Flynn. Matter of fact, that Sally Yates who goes to the White House and briefs the White House about the danger. Mike Flynn presents because he could be bribed Bri the Russians because they were listening in on his calls, which is absurd. It's just ridiculous. Why do they need him out so badly out of the White House? This text would fit if the Pfizer was on Flynn. And oh, boy if there's a Pfizer on Flynn, ladies and gentlemen, this is going to be a tier one level nuclear blast man member. We only know about the FIS on Carter page. I believe there was a FIS on George popadopoulos. And I believe there was a fire on Flint. Let me give you another piece of evidence. Not just this text because admittedly the correlation there is loose. And I am speculating that that text could be about Flynn. But if you read the Flynn and hat tip to my guy on this. If you read the Flint statement of offense in other words, that charges against Mike Flynn, what Muller's team laid out against Flynn in some of the earlier paragraphs they described conversations in the actions that took place with Flynn after the monitoring of his call with Sergei Kislyak the Russian ambassador. I know it's complicated. Follow me because this is important really important. Joe if the conversation Mike Flynn had with the Russian ambassador that earlier in the show, I showed you the Washington Post said the FBI deemed, nothing, listen, right? But the public record of this case, the Obama administration officials and other people involved seem to believe that that call they heard Mike Flynn talking to the Russian Basler because they had unmasked Flynn while listening in on the Russian ambassador. Not flynn. It's important the difference. Yeah. I understand. You're tracking me Yemen. The official Obama administration stories we were not listening in on Mike Flynn. He's a US citizen. Gotcha. We were doing standard intelligence monitoring a foreign officials in this case Kislyak, the Russian ambassador whose Russian and we just happened to step on Mike Flynn as well. We massed him. And while LA that's how we got his records. Yeah. Right. But if you read the statement of offense, it's puzzling. Because they seem to have records or some. Account of the conversations that had days afterwards between Flint and the transition team now to give you both sides of this. All right. It's my source adequately. Put pointed out, it could be that Flynn just gave them in account of his conversations that's possible because he was cooperating. But ladies and gentlemen, it could very well be as well that they were listening in on Flynn's conversations the whole time. And that's how they got this information. Was there a FIS on Mike Flynn? It's just fascinating that this text occurs after the election when everything's hitting the fan, they're all in a panic because they know they're all going to be discovered, and in McCague's inbox is them worrying about the Sally Yates, the deputy attorney general then worrying about a Pfizer target that had physical access. Remember, the only FIS target. We know about as Carter page what physical access does he have? He's a civilian. I told you today show was going. Was going to drop some Bob's idea. I folks. There's so much more here so much more. I think they are genuinely worried about the discovery process the Muller probe and everyone else the greatest thing Flynn could have done and popadopoulos would have been a go to trial yet why. Because if they went to trial, they would have been privy to discovery material where the government would have produced the evidence against them. I believe this is why Bob Muller came in guns. A blazing charged them with everything they could under the sun threaten their families and everything else to get them to plead early. So they wouldn't go to trial. So there would be no discovery process. And they could bury all of this stuff. Six feet deep. All right. Paula can you cue up that Chris Wallace, Fox News thing with Jodi Himes? I know I said I would play it last after Jay Johnson. But I have just to defend crystal because I think Chris does try to hit both sides. I told you I disagreed with him on the dossier. But Chris Wallace had Adam shifts number two guy democrat, what is the name Jim Himes, or if I forget his first name, but he's a congressman who tries to play a more reasonable, Adam Schiff, but Himes also is a propagator of nonsense Russia collusion hoax ary, and he goes on with Wallace and starts to again, go down this road that collusion exists Despites. It'd be despite it being entirely debunked and Chris Wallace Azima question. Watch Himes getting tireless shut down this great. Joining us from Connecticut. Congressman Jim Himes, the number two democrat on the house intelligence committee. Congressman let's start with what you told your local newspaper and Connecticut this week about whether. The mullahs report clears the president on the issue of collusion with the Russians. Here's what you told them. I'm not sure I'd break out a lot of champagne. They tried to make the case at the Muller report says there's no evidence of collusion. There's plenty of evidence. But congressman and now dragging the counter argument to what I was discussing with Kellyanne. That's not what the mullahs report says it doesn't say there's plenty of evidence of collusion. Now. What the mullet? Well, first of all nobody knows what the mullahs report says because we haven't seen it. We've got the four page bar summary, and even though my Republican friends are attacking Adam Schiff and others by saying that the mullahs report says no evidence that's not at all what it says. If you read the bar letter the bar letter says that the investigation was not able to establish So Chris two things under. No, you say no excuse me, because with all due respect, sir. That's absolutely incorrect. I'm going to put up on the screen because we knew. That this probably was gonna come up the specific quote from attorney general bar. Here's what he says, the special counsel did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with the Russian government and these efforts despite multiple offers from Russian affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign. So specifically the special counsel is not saying there's insufficient evidence to prosecute. He's saying it didn't happen, right? So again, two things are possible at the same time number one, whatever happened, and there's four hundred pages of report that we're going to see so something happened or it wouldn't be four hundred pages long. But whatever happened the conclusion is that it's not a chargeable. Against her at respectfully. He didn't say it's a chargeable offense. He said the report did not find that the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated. Good friend said Chris used guys on that. He's not opinion guy. Like, I am a hat tip the Christian. I put that on the show you how I can disagree with them. And at the same time, give them a big round of applause. Himes doesn't know what to say Himes Fred's is hysterical. Did you catch? Your Joe Himes is the fences will something happen. You know, something something did happen in nineteen eighty six. The Mets won the World Series. Surprising upset against the Red Sox. You know, it in nineteen seventy four December four Dan Bongino was born August second nineteen seventy-five Paulo bungee something happening. Mark Messier was a New York ranger want that happen. What do you mean? Something happened. I will college at queens college that happened. I met Joe Arbor costs that WCBS while running for Senate in Maryland, and we became into the for that happen to to restrain his evidence for proving Russian collusion that's been entirely debunked by report, he's clearly mischaracterizing is we'll hey something happened. You're Joe what I started doing the show in two thousand fifteen to happen. There's nothing to do with Russia collusion either. So good job by while. Is of nail misguide guy is nothing to say, he was respectfully, sir. That's not what the report says you can read this yourself. There's no evidence of collusion. Fact, the Trump team was approached by the Russians was and they said, no, the it's the anti evidence. The evidence is completely counter to what gyms Jim Himes is saying. Now, you see why there's you have to understand folks a lot of you don't underst-. I mean, I'm not giving up any secrets here. There's a news division and an opinion side. That's what he gets paid to talk about facts. And what each has said is a fact that's a factor of report is entitled exonerates him completely of this. Your defense. Can't people something something happens all the time. Hillary ran for president that to happen. This is so weak and pathetic. It's really I have a tough time believing Democrats are still holding out hope on this. All right. That's enough for today show one thing on a personal note. I wanted to bring up today. I know it's been a crazy show. Appreciate everybody's side. I t's the. Yeah. Thank you. But but on a very serious note. I was in the gym last week with a with a friend, obviously mention his name raving about it. But he's an addict is drug problem. And I believe he had a little bit of a relapse in. I just want to say to out there given that a lot of it's in my family to and I said to him, and I tried to look in the eye. And you know, we're with you man, you have a home here in this home. You know, you're I don't mean to sound hyperbolic or like Popeye go, eat your spinach, something my job. But I just want you to know that God loves you. And I love you here too. And I know the struggle your within those chemicals are really hard, but you can beat them. And I told this kid that you gotta hang in there. And you have to get down on a knee and asked to be saved, and you will be no people give a dam, and I say that because it hurt me really because I really liked this kid, and I don't know. Much. I only know him from. But I I spend a couple of hours a week in the gym, and I ran into him. And I've seen this guy struggle. And I saw what he looked like, and it just rips my heart out, and I just wanted him to know, you're not alone. And I want you all out there having a problem with chemical dependency or what to know, you're not alone. You know, I care I read your emails when when I covered this last time, and you sent me your emails, what your struggle, those really of all the emails that hit me. Those hit me the hardest. I've had a problem with this in my own family as well and your loved man people care and just know when you know when you relapse and come back, it hurts other people too. They need you to be strong because they care about you. And that matters. All right. Don't mean to sound pollyannish. But it's important, and you know, show show is not just about current events. It's about real world stuff too. And we really appreciate you tuning in. Hey, thanks a lot folks. You just heard the Dan Bongino show. You can also get Dan's podcasts on I tunes or soundcloud and follow Dan on Twitter twenty four seven at debone. On gino.

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The Attorney General Lets it Rip # 955

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The Attorney General Lets it Rip # 955

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show. That's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan bongino. I love to the Dan Bongino shepherdess, Joe, how are you today? Dude. It's a fine day for a radio program. That's all I gotta tell you. I I always anxiously await your your entrance onto the stage. You know? My greatest showman. When when Hugh Jackman hands off the baton to that his his protege guy at the end, and he just wait for you start dancing like elevates the start coming out. You start doing the triple? Unitil? This sudden we cut to a wide shot. Joe ch. Hey, seriously. We have a stack show today. I drove Joe. And my wife Paula crazy last night producing today's show. There's so much. We'll see what we could get to. So let's waste anymore. W the bar testimony yesterday and just some astonishing video you're not gonna wanna miss right today show. Brought you our buddies at helixsleep helixsleep makes the finest mattress out there. Ladies and gentlemen. 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Let's go before we get to Bill bar and some an astonishing dump yesterday. Jim Komi that got lost in all the Bill bar stuff. Hat tip that undercover Huber Twitter account guys. Great. I want to get this. Bernie Sanders thing because we are running into twenty twenty election against a bunch of socialists who are out there screaming and yelling like a bunch of band. She's. Screaming like Howard, Dean style. Ru. Stream it about wealth redistribution it socialism. Bernie Sanders at the tip of the spear is leading the pack. So Bernie Sanders as evidenced by his numerous speeches tweets and otherwise he can't stand millionaires. He obviously doesn't like millionaires. He can't stand that Trump is wealthy. He can't stand Evan as evidenced by his tweet that the Trump cabinet has people in there who have been successful. We have the tweet up on the screen. If you want to watch the show, you can go to YouTube dot com slash Bongino. I'll read it for you. This was the Bernie Sanders tweet on his official verified account at Senator Sanders. Trump's quote anti-establishment cabinet of millionaires millionaires and billionaires like you says is worth more than one third of US households combined. Oh my gosh. Birdie raging raging against the well, the dying of the light Matic Bernie Sanders. Ray G can't stand millionaires billionaires. Well, what do we find out yesterday? New York Times story by Cheryl, Cheryl, gay, Stalberg, birdie said there's now a millionaire pledges to release tax returns by Monday, New York slimes. This is just peachy. So now, we know why Bernie's been hiding his tax returns up until then, you know, why? Because these folks take this to the Bank cash this check. Bernie Sanders has had a focus group together because he's a fraud. And he's hypocritic biggest phoney out there. I'm the Mark by words, he has had a political focus group together. And he is trying to find a way. It's the reason he was delaying his taxes to message to the public that he is. In fact, the very same person he rails against because he's a fraud. He is a Lieutenant General in the fraud hypocrite brigade he is leading chore. Jeez. On a horse at the front of the hypocrite progress brigade getting ready to attack Bernie did he is the biggest phoney out there? So his message now because he was hit on this. Check out this tweet. How he tries to message his new millionaire status. This is hysterical. This is comical in its tier one absurdity. There's a tweet from John Harwood. Bernie Sanders acknowledging that he's rich as he belatedly prepares to release his tax research. So Essen this is cash tag epic fail. I wrote a basilica book if you write a best selling book, you could be a millionaire to really slowly as my wife is so kindly pointed out today, we do. Okay. But we didn't become millionaires for books books do. Well. But you know, we have to split them up marketings a lot of costs in it. And we had some researchers hope that and we did the right thing. But we didn't become millionaires. Bernie did this guy is a fraud. He is forget Lieutenant General. This guy's a four star general in the hypocrisy. Army? He is a total fraud. So in order for Bernie to rescue. This guy's sullied destroyed reputation among serious people Bernie, Bernie Brahimi. Hey bre, bro. You, bro? Haber? The Bernie broS don't care at all. Because Bernie broS just their life. It's a religion for them. This is not based in reality. Data Mon understand that this guy is a hypocrite. He's been railing against millionaires and billionaires that he is one of them Bernie process, but reasonable people's reputations destroyed because he's a fraud if you put together facts and logic, and you say Bernie Sanders hates millionaires and billionaires and the aggregation of well, yet Bernie Sanders is a million who is aggregated wealth. So who have you Bruce book, so? Birdie Bernie should lead, by example, into rescue is sullied reputation that have a suggestion. Remember, what was that movie was an Adam Sandler was Billy Madison? You can do it. Remember, rob Schneider? Do you can do it? Billy Roberta you can do this. You can redistribute the money from this book sales. I expect you I am now folks let's start a movement. And here's what to give it back. Hashtag on Twitter. Give it back send a hashtag that to Bernie on all of his tweets give it back, buddy. You're a socialist your whole credos, your whole reason for being is that government is best is the best spender and allocate our resources that individuals are not that individuals who actually produce aggregate collect wealth, whatever put wealth than a Bank accumulate wealth via business successes. That is not the best way to to operate in economy. Your theory Bernie is the best way to operate economies to turn that money over to government. You weren't a socialist do the right thing lead. I will expect you at a minimum a minimum to donate fifty percent. I'm being kind. Because socialists, want full collectivisation. In other words, the full collectivisation of private assets to the government. I'll give you a pass. I am expecting has Ted give it back. Bernie Sanders to give fifty percent. Thank you. Ms Paula who even put it up on our YouTube dot com slash bunch. You hashtag give it back. Bernie. This should be the new bread. They have their own hashtag feel the burn respond to every feel the burn hashtag by Bernie. Br Haber Haber respond with give it back Bernie needs to give back fifty percent of those book sales to salvage his sullied reputation. Otherwise, I don't want to hear another peep from this guy about Medicare for all about redistribution socialism. Nothing give it back Bernie Kevin back hue can do in. You can do it costed. We need rob Schneider. Right now, he, you know, Bernie, but also pretty good in some sort of paramilitary uniform. You know, what I mean going to work Castro? You get don't you think? The green Uni green Uni. That's not a bad idea. The military cap can use you. You know, what that if he gives it back at least he'd beat for real. Because those are two things that will happen. It's actually I you will have military tyranny, political prisons, death and destruction and second if he gives back the money, so he'd stand by that at least he'd represent what he represents right government control people's freedom liberty in the economy, but it gives back the money at least he'd be ideologically aligned with what he's telling everyone. But he won't do any of that not a bad idea though. Joe? Yesterday. I don't even know where to start Bill bar was up on the hill. I actually do I had a line. And he's my you wanna see my notes, you could check this out YouTube dot com slash bungee. But the videos, that's how many notes I had for today. Took us good four hours to get today's show together because there's so much stuff. So Bill bar. The attorney general goes up to Capitol Hill yesterday testifies, and I have it broken down to three major takeaways. I mean, I could you know, we were bombshells a lot. But it's overused. Clearly, but these are three let's call them in the interest of being not hyperbolic significant takeaways from yesterday. So before we start we played that video quick, Bill bars reaction. This is set the standard for yesterday. This is Bill bars reaction where he just like, you gotta see the facial expression. He makes this quickly Bill bars reaction when being questioned by a democrat congresswoman, and he just clearly has no time for the nonsense. So you knows he's about to be subjected to play that cut. This is very clear that he opposed it. And so let it work out in legislation. I want you to very I want you to need very let me finish my question because that's what I heard. Maybe you need to clarify. So this credit congresswoman tries to put words as methods ignited say that. Fizzy not watching. She comes back as well. This is what I heard this is that whole democrat. This is my truth thing. I say is true show. It's my tree. Like Joe Joe? My truth is your name is John, Dan. My name is Joe it doesn't matter. It's my true. Your name is John Armacost, it stopped me telling me your name is Joe. But Dan, it's on my purse ticket, dude. It's my truth. It's my true. This is her true. What bought Bill Bart is to have a little cut from that later to happen to Kansas. Oh and says, well, hopefully, we'll get to it today where it's their truth to somewhat Kansas Bill bar said. But you gotta see bars face for those. We listen to the audio. He just totally guests this lady off shrugs his shoulders. Like, okay, whatever that's what I said. But if you insist that's what I said, you just roll with that go right ahead. So that sets the tone. Let's get to major major developing story. Number one. This is from the hill yesterday piece by John Solomon, just amazing. The title of peace will be in the show notes today. Please check them out. You don't dot com. Tom. If you subscribe to my Email list that will send you these articles the hill, title the single sentence. Russia bombshell that attorney general bar delivered to congress by John Salman, short piece, really just summarizes. The fact that Bill bar is now told us all under oath. That he is investigating the FBI conduct in the Russia gate spy gave the FBI malfeasance during the campaign and afterwards the presidential campaign afterwards. He is investigating it. You may say, okay. So what's the big? Oh, no, no, no. There are some big big nuggets in there. Baker gets. I. Here's a snippet from John Solomon's piece at the helm. Though, it didn't happen on his watch bar told congress he will investigate and we highlighted this. How the FBI came to conduct a counterintelligence investigation against Donald Trump. Then the Republican nominee for president starting in the summer of twenty sixteen hold. We'll go back to that. In a second. So take away number one. Remember, I said there were three takeaways I want to break this down. So it's collated nicely for you. And your cerebral cortex. Takeaway number one is bar. The attorney general is investigating himself. The FBI's conduct under one bar opens investigation. Here's a sub bullet. He's investigating. How it open? Why is that important? I know knows. And I know our regular listeners like, oh, oh, yes. Yesterday's show makes sense up. Why is he investigating how they opening investigations the Trump the New York slimes, David corn, Chris cillizza and all the sleazy liberal useful idiots out there working for the Russians and all the distance formation people out there already told us. How Joe how did the investigation start? Yeah. Top dopoulos meets with down or in a London, right? The New York Times it the FBI said what what are we investigating? What's the oh? You mean, that's an open question. How they why is it an open question. Because I told you the F B I is hiding something. The top. I'm not talking about the hump workers. We used to we call it shows that in a secret service, not majority. We were the hump sweet did the work. Sure Joe's that middle class that. I don't want people think I'm insulting anyone the upper level Kabbal involved in this investigation of the Trump has insisted from day one. No, no, no. It just started with the popadopoulos Downer tip. And that's why we opened the July thirty two thousand sixteen investigation against Trump. Is that right? He sat right. Why is it that the day before you open the investigation July thirtieth twenty sixteen the day before you open that investigation? The oars Bruce Meli or one who was working for the company hard by Hillary dig up dirt on Trump met with the dossier producer. I talked to had nothing to do with opening the investigation. I thought that's what you told us. I thought it was all popadopoulos the day before they open the case. The oars are passing off information by the producer of the dossier steel to the F B I taught that had nothing to do with it. So why is bar investigating? How would open I thought that was a closed book book close. I have not steered you wrong. You have not been wasting your time. Here I've told you they are hiding something over and over the case did not start with the popadopoulos down or tip. I beat that horse to death. I wanna move did not they're hiding something. Big here. I'll move on. And it'll make a little bit more sense. All right back to the John. Solomon piece says we have known for more than a year. Now that department of Justice inspector General Michael Horowitz has been investigating whether the FBI or DOJ abused. The Pfizer court to secure a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign advisor Carter page less than three weeks from election day, twenty sixteen. This is important but bar made clear Tuesday that his review is this stink and more far-ranging than I g Horowitz's investigation. It goes back to the moment when a probe code-named crossfire. Hurricane was open on July thirty first twenty sixteen by Trump hating FBI counterintelligence agent. Peter stroke, sorry, gave the case was open on July thirty twenty sixteen to meeting between or steel McCabe page is on July thirtieth today before. Why is this important? So again, headline number one bar is investigating himself. What went on with the contact? How it started? I thought we've already been told that take away number two under under under one here. Sub bullet number two. So one be this is not the Horowitz investigation. Why is that critical? Because ladies and gentlemen, Michael Horowitz is not a prosecutor. He is an investigator. There is a significant difference between an investigation being run by the Justice department head Bill bar and an investigation being run by an investigator investigators secret service agents FBI inspectors general do not have subpoena authority. This is important. This is a critical takeaway when I was investigating credit card fraud counterfeit money cases in the secret service to get a subpoena. You have to go to a government prosecutor and assistant United States attorney or someone granted equivalent powers special counsel, whatever it may be from the DOJ Horowitz doesn't have that. The fact that bar is making crystal clear that he's doing a separate investigation with full subpoena. Power is going to be devastating for the cabal of idiots involved in this. Remember, I will insist to you from this point on. I've always insisted this that will continue from this point of this is the greatest spy story ever told. Except it's a story of idiots. There's no JAMES BOND. There's a bond James there's a bond, Jane, there's a Bondo, Jamie. But there is no JAMES BOND. Nece these idiots failed to cover their own tracks and now bar with subpoena. Power is looking into how it started. How it started? We've already been told that no you've been lied to. And he has subpoena power. Both. You wanted some technical subpoena duce, tcm, but other words produce some documents produce some materials bang records. Whatever it may be emails or subpoena ad testify Cottam. In other words, you're going to testify about this. These people are in a world of trouble right now. Now, Devon newness appeared on FOX and friends right before we was it FOX and friends are America's new one of the morning shows right before we got on the air and also seemed to indicate what we've been telling you forever. The case did not start with pop it up. I'll tell you the minute what they're hiding. It's fairly obvious. If you're a regular listener show, but it's important with this new hawk right? Newness said at this morning on FOX's well, the FBI keeps saying the case start on July thirty first twenty sixteen. We believe it started a lot earlier than that. He said this morning possibly back to twenty fifteen all boy who's been lying, folks. This is going to get real good. Okay. So that's takeaway number one, a one b bars investigating. He's investigating. How it started which is going to be a doozy. And he's investigating separate from our wits. Cepeda power on. It's an awesome power. Here's takeaway, number two, the deuce. The inspector General Michael Horowitz. Should we just referred to is now investigating the role of Stephan? How per a piece written up yesterday. It'd be in the show notes by Chuck Ross at the daily caller had tipped the Chuck who broke the helper store, he should get a Pulitzer prize for that. Here's the story. Daily. Caller report DOJ watchdog scrutinizing FBI informant who made contact with the Trump campaign Chuck Ross April nine twenty nineteen. Wow. Folks. I thought we were all Joe are we conspiracy theorists and nuts for claiming the Trump campaign with spider. Remember that? Yes. When I've heard remember when you're open, but we would call that when the CNN and MSNBC lunatics, the slimes and other people out there left this hack on Twitter. Armacost bongino. You guys are crazy you're conspiracy theorists. Really because that's funny. The New York Times put out a piece yesterday acknowledging the fact that helper was used to gather information on the Trump team. The definition of a word spy for all you nut bags on the left Yuccas fast. By New York Times there wasn't informant used to spy on the Trump. What we've told you this the whole time now take away number two yesterday. The inspector general is investigating the use of said spy now there is some sub bullets to this one. This how our investigation by the inspector general is going to be. Nuclear level at its explosive capacity. Let's put up a snippet from Chuck Ross a piece this is important. This is critical. We should put a shirt thing it this is import one of our key. I like how I known campaign contact. This is the spy working for our intelligence entities. I know campaign contact was with Carter page July eleven twenty sixteen. Way early July eleven twenty sixteen. Why does that matter because they told us Joe the case opened on July thirty first of two thousand sixteen so how is the spy contacting the how is that? Joe? How is that? How is it that twenty days earlier, a spy known to the US intelligence community with deep ties to it is contact everyone. Hold on, folks. Everybody scratched their heads. Joe? What's I shall I eleven or July thirty first just so we're clear I need a double check on July thirty first before before after July eleven comes before. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Yeah. Eleven it's. No it actually comes after July thirty first comes after. But that's okay. I told you I Spyder I thought you said it was okay, spy you ever, see goodfellas, and he shoots like I bought. Okay. Spider. Paula. Incent? That's triple check this. Maybe I'll get my mother's Paula is July thirty first after July eleventh or before. Okay. Thank you, Paul again. I think right to Joe Evan is before July thirty first it. How is that? Now. It is bullet point number one what bars investigating make sense the FBI. Our case opened on July thirty first twenty sixteen please put up that clip again from Chuck Ross that's amazing because the spy known to the US government contacts Carter page on July eleven twenty sixteen several weeks before the FBI formerly opened its counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign. Chuck Ross continues how per page remained in contact you September of two thousand seventeen the same month the government ended it surveillance of page in NATs pastoral church lead. Wow. This is just magic. So this is fascinating. Because we've been told by the FBI repeatedly over and over that George popadopoulos foreign policy adviser to Trump meets with an Australian diplomat in London over this boozy encounter, which is nonsense. Downer himself describes it as one gin and tonic and popadopoulos reveals to him that the Russians have information on Hillary. And this started our investigation on July thirty first of twenty sixteen. Really? So he meets page two weeks prior to them opening up. The case they say doesn't exist yet. Why is this important? Because who is the key player in the dossier? Hillary Clinton's team had put together on Trump. Well, there's two key players in it Carter page and Paul Manafort. What is the government connected intelligence assets? Stephan how for doing contacting a guy who is only a suspect Carter page because of a false fake dossier paid for by Hillary. What are they doing contacting him with a government intelligence asset? If the investigation isn't even open yet. Oh, maybe Bill bar. Get an answer in this investigation into the how. This is just fascinating, by the way, the New York Times putting out a story yesterday. The New York slimes. Putting a story your city outing how how completely. Listen to me, take this check to the Bank cash at spend the money and invest it. You'll never have to give it back. The times got a leak because the FBI now what show is trying to get out in front of this and massage this story in the most gentle way possible they have been voiding for months what here's the Khuda GRA here. Folks, they had been spying on the Trump team way before July thirty first twenty sixteen. The popadopoulos story is a cover story to hide the fact that a US government spa S P. Why Joe Biden would spell it s p I was spying on the Trump team way before they opened up the formal case on July thirty first we know it now, and we know bar is looking into it and bar as evidenced by his reaction to the democrat congresswoman who has no time for the truth gives exactly zero. Ooh about anything. They have to say up there. He is going to get to the truth. And the truth is the FBI to this day is lying about the depths of their involvement in a massive spying scandal on a presidential candidate. One more angle to this. Ladies and gentlemen. The FBI as we indicated in our first book spy gate on this where we cover this in-depth. Please pick it up if you haven't yet. In one of the chapters. We lay out the FBI's own rules for the use of spys, confidential, humid sources, I don't care what you call them. I care what they did. They spied helper was a spy. And Joe was awfully inconvenient in. That is in the laying out of the rules necessary to spy on Americans. You cannot employ a confidential human source until something happens. Joe? A full investigation is open. I'm confused. How is that the FBI and the New York slimes and slimy Cilicia and usefully David corn have been telling us for months that a full investigation was an open on Trump until July thirty first twenty sixteen. How sad if the spy made contact with the Trump team two weeks earlier than the case open, and you can't use a spy until a full investigations open. But the investigation is an open for two weeks later. How is that? Oh, there was an investigation. Already open Bank on it Bank on it, babe. As Joe would say, yes. Cash. The check spend that money. They are lying to you. And bar is all over it. You think that's a mistake in John Solomon's piece? Takeaway number one bars investigating how they opened the investigation. You think that was just some typo? I told you Salomon knows the whole story. They are lying the scandals. Not just that they were spying on Trump team. It's at they've been covering it up. And they still are. No, no, no, it started with popadopoulos. Wow. That's magic because your intelligence asset contacted Carter page who only appears in the dossier, by the way, not in popadopoulos is talk with Downer. And that happened two weeks earlier in the FBI has to open a full investigation in order to use confidential human sources, how'd that happen. This is me scratching my head. Yeah. Also. The FBI excuse me. The department of Justice is now looking into three Michael Horowitz, the inspector general. Contact with Sam Clovis as he lays out Chuck Ross lays out in his piece. This is another critical. Takeaway Sam Clovis was then a senior campaign official with the Trump campaign. We know that this spy the fawn helper made contact with Clovis as well. How's that show? Clovis isn't appear in the dossier. Overseas never been charged with anything. Matter of fact, I thought you just told us this case started with a popadopoulos tip to Downer. What is the US government spy making contact with a political campaign official for who has no connection whatsoever to Russian collusion. Oh, when we love to see the emails about that one. Folks. I'm telling you. This thing is about to erupt. I know some of you were frustrated with the time line. And I understand I respect that your concerns are extremely valid again. Mike Flynn's already been put to the ringer. We had popadopoulos targeted Manafort six AM raids popadopoulos locked up on a PC warranty airport. You're all these people are still running free. I get it point stipulated period. Full stop. You are correct. Your complaints about the speed of Justice are accurate. You complaints about Justice coming or not. Now a fair point. I'll even give you the the comeback to this Justice delayed is Justice denied fair enough. I get it. I agree. So let me just say. Justice delayed is Justice denied, but Justice will not be delayed. Forever is probably a better way to say this maybe give you some or of hope about what's coming. These people are in a world of trouble. Okay. I got one more takeaway here. These are the three major developments. Let's just rewind a bit number one bar is investigating. How this started critical. We've been told how it started. And it's a lie. Secondly, the inspector general is now investigating helper who is an intelligence asset for the United States government and his role in context with the Trump campaign before they started the investigation. This is going to blow this thing wide open. Takeaway number three. Bob Muller declined a review of Bill bars report, I have a video of this. This is important. And it's not as simple as the media's making it out to be. If you listen to my show the other day, you'll understand the layers to this. But this is a little more complicated than this sound bite. Let's on all explain what what is that? Here's Muller describing excuse me Bill bar describing how Muller didn't want to review is report. Did you contemplate having the special counsel's office help you with the preparation of your March twenty four th letter or did you? We offered to have Bob review it before putting it out, and he declined I didn't ask you about reviewing I asked if you thought about having them help prepare the March twenty four th letter. I mean, they did. No, I didn't think about why not because it was my letter. How did I love this Bill Barr? I love this guy. It's Charlie grabs. Charlie. Christie's hapless congressman the guy with the most permanent permit tan I've ever seen in my life. I Charlie Chris. I don't know what he does. He have like one of those easy bake ovens or something at home. But Charlie Chris used to be the governor of Florida. He's really an awful guy. He was a Republican. He couldn't stay at a power. So we switched over to be a democrat. He says, well, you know, I didn't ask if I asked if you ask Bob Muller to help you prepare the report but bars like, well, why would I do that as my letter? And he indicates there that Muller passed on reviewing the letter, you may say so what what's the breaking news. Oh, listen to me, folks. Democrats never ask questions in front of national cameras on C span and cable news like Charlie Chris, they never waste their time on a name questions. They don't have. The answers to. What am I getting at someone told Charlie Chris to answer that question? Why? Well, you remember last week show Bill bar before he was appointed attorney general it was even consideration for the position wrote a memo as a private citizen indicating that the president could not possibly be guilty of -struction of Justice due to the information available publicly for the firing of Jim Komi. That's before bars appointed attorney general before he's even inconsideration. Mahler by refusing to review the letter that exonerates Trump that Bill bar produced. Joe this is this is slick this is game theory by the left. Chris knows that by Muller passing on reviewing the letter. It puts the responsibility. For the exoneration of Trump on the obstruction charge, which Barin Rosenstein, do they say there's just no evidence for this charge. Puts the responsibility on who bar. I told you this last week nothing happens that these hearings by mistake. Everything is fed to these congressmen. They're not smart enough to think of the questions themselves or you thought Charlie started that himself. What are you nuts, folks? Believe me when you run for office, and you meet these people, they're the most unimpressive people on the planet. I mean, it they are seriously unimpressive. I have conversations outside with hard working manual, laborers who I'm telling you are thousand times smarter street smarts and book smarts than these idiots up on capitol. I'm not kidding. Chris had that fed to him. Ask him if Muller assisted in the review because if Malla reviewed the letter, Joe, then what happens the less talking point about bar made a unilateral decision on absolving, Trump of -struction would be gone because Muller would have reviewed the letter. You get them talking about ambush slick. Yeah. Muller knows exactly what's going on here. Let me just read. I got I gotta redo a little bit. What I said last week said this is important yesterday. So Bill Baugh writes this letter he says this four page summary. The mullahs report is to bottom lines bottom line number one. There's no collusion. There's really no dispute about that anymore Muller's even sign because there was no evidence. Now, you may save Muller's not a friend to Trumper bar. Why did he write that because they can't fabricate evidence? There was no collusion because there was no collusion. It's not a judgment call you either have evidence of a conspiracy or you. Don't Muller had no choice. He wasn't doing Trump of stop saying Muller exonerated Trump. He didn't Trump exonerated Trump. There was no the Bank wasn't rob Muller. Can't charge Trump with a Bank robbery, and it didn't happen. It's black or white, folks. Either the Bank was robbed or it wasn't either. There's evidence of a conspiracy with Russia, or there's not there isn't Muller had to write that. But Muller hates Trump. So. So in order to keep the air of suspicion over the Trump campaign. They wanted to charge him with obstruction of structures a judgment call. It's the equivalent of with the MVP we had disorderly conduct some cops would charge disorderly conduct for screaming industry about something. It's a judgment call. It's a judgment call. Because Muller knows it's a judgment. Call who's judgment? Does. He want on the record. Bars. Charlie Chris knows this because bars already written a memo before he got into the position indicating that obstructions nonsense. So what's the Democrats line going to be thinking through all listen, he was already predisposed to say and Trump was guilty of obstruction? Look at this Bill bar giving him a pass. Now, you may say, well that doesn't make sense because if Muller has evidence of obstruction why not charge Trump or charge him in a it is report. Because you can't indict a sitting president. But write it out in a report show and let them use it for impeachment. An after Trump's impeach charge him with structure when he leaves office. I explained this last week because they have no evidence of -struction Trump asked Jim Komi to investigate people guilty of malfeasance on his team McCain's admitted under oath. There's no evidence Muller would never in a million years taken impeached, President Trump removed from office to trial on an obstruction charge. So he does the slimy est thing possible he passes the football to bar he lets bar make the call bar reads, the evidence on obstruction realizes would Rosenstein it's garbage says there's no obstruction. We're not going to charge him gives the letter to Muller Muller says I don't want to see this. They then pass a question off the Lakers. Aided Muller of you. No. He didn't review it. Oh, he didn't. Also, what was bars called the guy who wrote the memo before this is typical democrat. Sleaze ary of the Mt. Eighth degree. So take away number three. We now have it on record. That Muller did not want to review. The why would he not want her? If that's insane. Joe you're an investigator. Bob Muller for the government investigating a crime. I'm reviewing your report, my writer, four page, synopsis of what you say, you're not even remotely interested in seeing it. Folks, read between the lines. Muller is becoming a full blown liberal activists. That question was fed to Chris to now setup suspicion. That bars corrupted. Unreal. On believable. So takeaway, number three Muller declined to review the letter A for no good reason whatsoever. Other than to put the blame on bar and to punt on on a judgment, call to bar to make bars judgement appear suspect. All right. I got another tactical nuke that one off yesterday again hat tip that at John w Huber account got Twitter. Just a really good job. He pulled out a snippet from some now released documents about court documents from October Jim Komi that are going to prove my theory that this was Muller's quiz corrupt the whole time. All right before we get the today show. Also brought to you by buddies equip, one of those important things we for our health, everyday brushing your teeth. I have a quip I love it feels like a power-washing for your mouth yet. Most of us. Don't do it properly quip sales at problem for it's a better electric toothbrush. Created by dentists and designers quip was designed to make brushing your teeth, simple, affordable and even enjoyable takes. All the guesswork out of it. It has sensitive sonic vibrations, gentle and sense for your sensitive, gums, sometimes people brushed you hard. Some electric toothbrushes are just way too abrasive. It has a two minute timer that pulses every thirty seconds reminds you the switch side. Adds up to ninety percent of us. 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The FBI in the special counsel's office have determined that this closure of the Komi memos or any portions of them could be reasonably expected to adverse effect depending Russia investigation. Listen to this boy, former FBI director James B Komi is a witness in the pending investigation. The call me memos or his contemporaries notes about the incidents that are of interest in that investigation. They are call me as a witness. Why? How is Jim call me a witness? What investigation. Folks, you may be saying at home, Dan, clearly Komi was a witness in an investigation to the Russia probe. No, no, no, no, no, ladies and gentlemen. I spent an awful lot of time in federal local law enforcement, and I can assure you, I have never had a criminal case. I worked in the secret service where the secret service director, no matter who it was loom lady or whoever after that. I was like three or four of them. I worked for I can assure you they were never a witness in my case. I can also assure you that there is not a snowball's chance in hell. The chimp Komi is a witness in this Russia gate probe. Jim Komi has said repeatedly under oath repeatedly. I don't know. I can't recall he was not the investing please pick up. What I'm putting down here. Comi was not the investigator. The investigator was Peter stroke in the Russia gate probe. One of the other investigators was that gator guy. My gator who met with steel in London two weeks prior. Oh, two weeks prior to her crossfire hurricane opened up. How was that? I thought it opened July thirty first. Yeah, you're wrong. Komi is not the investigator. That is not the case. They're talking about that he is a witness in. All right. So what are you getting that? What case is call me a witness in. Komi is clearly a witness in the obstruction probe against Donald Trump. Ladies and gentlemen. This is big MRs really big why? Because it's commes firing that prompts the obstruction probe we now know according to these same court filings that Komi gives his memos about his interactions with Donald Trump to Andrew McCabe before before. Muller is even appointed a special counsel. So how is our this is Donald Trump, the president United States who has full of thirty to hire or fire. The FBI director for whatever reason he sees fit a point acknowledged by Jim Komi himself under oath. Fires the FBI director pursuant to a memo written by rod Rosenstein about Jim commes stupid, mistakes and malfeasance. Kobe turns around if he's fired gives the memos to his deputy directors buddy McCabe who then starts an investigation to the president for firing his boss. Where Komi becomes a witness later on? There's doubt they've state conspiracy theorists. Are you sure you elected the president United States who has full executive authority report fire terminate these people at his discretion. He fires them pursuant to a memo written by his attor deputy attorney general to fired FBI director, then institutes at deep state investigation to take down the same president to fire them by giving his memos to Andy MacKay. Now, you may say well, Dan, you open this up talking about the Muller probe. And how you believe it may prove you, correct? Oh, I did. I've told you repeatedly Muller is not hired to investigate collusion. It's all hoax Muller's hired in may of twenty seventeen. He knows immediately at the latest July of twenty seventeen although I'll make the case, and I have any new probably way before that because his lead investigator, Andrew Weissmann. Joe already knows the dossier. That's the bedrock of the collusion case is a Clinton campaign document. He was briefed on it twenty sixteen. You tracking me that's right Muller's lead. Investigator knows the whole case is based on a hoax dossier Muller is not hired to investigate collusion. His lead. Investigator knows it's a hoax. He was briefed on the hoax. Mahler is hired from day. One. To investigate obstruction. Why because it's a judgment call. You don't need the Bank to be rob. You can just make a judgment that. You think the Bank was robbed, and they could have kept this obstruction case open forever to dismantle the Trump presidency. Which was exactly why sman and Muller's intent the only thing that stopped them is the appointment of Bill bar and subsequently before is acting Matthew Whitaker to run the Justice department. That's the only thing that swallows. This thing down. That's why it stops. Let me give you an example. What I mean why this is important? If I'm trying to destroy Joe's career Joe's, the president United States accused show being involved in a check kiting scandal. I'm eventually check kiting when you send checks to credit card companies bounce you use that period to run up your account. Eventually, I'm going to need cancel checks and records from the credit card company. It's abundantly obvious. If I hire a guy to help me investigate Joe. Who fabricated evidence against Joe, it's abundantly obvious that the cases of fraud from day one. But if I want to keep investigating Joe to ruin his life because I can't produce credit card records. There are none and nor can I produce a canceled check because Joe wasn't kiting checks. But if I want a high this elicit investigation conducted by my lead investigator now using the target show the best way to do. It is the started judgment crime investigating next because it's your judgment. You don't ever have to produce a significant amount of evidence, you can just Leach it out over time. Gotcha. And hope the president makes a public statement. Oh, that's obstruction. That's obstruction. That's that's that's baloney smo- Pery in the teeth degree. Yeah. All you do is wait for Joe. Who's the president? I say it's keep making public statements and everything he says is going to be evidence of obstruction. Oh, he talked to Lester Holt and NBC and said that the Russian thing was a made up story when he fired Komi construction. The evidence is the investigation. The investigation becomes the evidence. You leave a judgment call investigation open. You wait for any public statement. By the president you use every public statement as evidence of the obstruction charge your keeping open to destroy the presidency. Now does this snippet from the court filings? Now does this Jim Komi was a witness make sense, man? He was clearly a witness in this open ended obstruction case for his own firing. This is incredible. This is the status Shing the balls level of cajones. I know how to say could it's a family friendly show. It's friendlier saying it cajones. We you get it. Trump fires. This guy for grotesque malfeasance who then goes back uses his contacts within the FBI to initiate a full blown investigation into Trump. He then reconnects with his buddy Muller. They know they love each other. He reconnects with Muller as the primary witness against Trump for his firing on a totally judgment. Call. That's completely authorized by the president's own powers. Ladies and gentlemen, the hubris. Here is stunning. Jim Komi was a witness in an obstruction case kept open because the collusion case. Jim Komi started was a complete failure. This is on believable. Unbelievable again hat tip that undercover Huber account for Poland that out of there that is a terrific fine Komiya witness. He's not a witness to the collusion probe. They're using commies a witness to obstruction because he hates Trump is this huge. Yeah. And now, we know he gives the memo's to do McCabe before Muller's even hired. Hey, buddy. You want to start an investigation against that guy would just far be Orangemen bad. Let's do it. Love the liberal fares. Now they've start. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Guys, keep that up idiots morons morons. So stupid. All right moving on. I have two videos here. This is I'm gonna call this. The I didn't say this is kind of a little bit of a fight as a very serious shown anybody on a little bit of a kind of a funny note. And I may even by funny. I don't mean funny. What happened to these people? But funny, and how clueless the Democrats recall the I didn't say that. Semi montage here. I I want to play some outstanding video short of Candace Owens. He's worse for turning-point USA conservative activists happens to be a black female, which is relevant to any of us in the listening audience. But of course, matters to the left that loves identity politics. Kansas is excellent defending yourself. So Candice is up on Capitol Hill yesterday for hearing on social media and the absolutely hapless democrat hack. Ted lieu this congressman a debunked conspiracy theorists. Nut who would really as grasp what reality is tenuous at best tries to impugn the character of Kansas Owens, by intimated. Insinuating somehow. That she's like a fan of Hitler, which is probably one of the dumbest things I've ever heard my life. But listen to how can this Owens response to this? Because the because this is what you have to do when you ever debating liberals, you just have to call them out of their Bs 'cause they make everything up play they cut. Thank you, miss Owen. I'm sorry. We just started recording. Would you like time to respond to that? Yes. I think it's pretty apparent that? Mr. loop believes that black people are stupid and will not pursue the full clip in its entirety. He purposely, presented an extract Nick strategy. Suspend for moment is not proper to refer disparagingly or to a member of the committee. The witness will not do that. Again. We're just may continue. Sure. Even I was called despicable witness may not refer to a member of the committee stupid. I didn't refer to him as stupid. That's what I said. It's not what I said at all. He didn't listen to what I said. Lee's Roro tricky, folks, please if you don't mind, even if you listened on audio and the audio covers most go to the YouTube account, YouTube dot com slash up on Gino. Please check out the video because I just want you to see Jerry net. Joe you saw it you see Jerry Nadler's face hack, democrat congressman Jerry, Nadler, another conspiracy theorists Jerry Nadler's face because he he's so not used to strong woman like Candice Owens calling him on his BS. Oh, that's what I said that that's not what I said. Did you not listen to me Nadler goes whatever I didn't say that. And then I love Candice Owens, opening Mr Liu Ted lieu the other conspiracy theorist who tries to impute our character saying you supports Hitler. I love her opening line. Mr. Luther black people are stupid, and they won't watch over for you can call it. This guy is nut at lose. Like you. Gotta see loose face. Looks even dumber than nether. It's classic. So that's the first Democrats trying to put Kansas who wants to not call Ted lieu stupid, although he is pretty stupid, by the way, I would have happily called stupid because he is. She said that they that Lou thinks black people are stupid and I loved that. She defends herself I didn't say that. And of course, you can't you can't play that without playing Bill bar calling out. Another democrat congresswoman who again tries to put words in people's mouth is very clear that he opposed it. And so let it work out in legislation. I. I want you to very I want you to be very let me finish my question. Because that's what I heard. Maybe you need to clarify where truth is never the truth. There's the truth at you. There's no like your truth by true to let me give you an example. Maybe liberals basic math to figure this out up. Joe? Let's do it diagram. Hold up a piece of paper. We have a sharpie in here somewhere. I got to do you ever sharpie out there, Paul? Let's do this. This is the truth, folks. Democrats watch two plus two equals four. Okay. Two plus two week was four you can see that. That is not your true. That's just the truth. I played them on the little, you know. That's not what I say. Because that's what the Democrats want you to be there. Truth matters the truth. That's not what Kansas. Oh and said, and it's not what Bill Boston. But you see crap. Like this all the time and it's super frustrating. Man thought we just end on a kind of semi humorous note today. All right. I've got some more stuff tomorrow to try to get to this John Kerry thing I couldn't get to it today. But John Kerry just getting completely own Joe keep that for tomorrow, paulie, to by by Congressman, Tom Massie, John Kerry, getting just destroy basic environmental questions, isn't they good also play that tomorrow. And I don't wanna tie it into a OCD thing. She did on the religion of environmentalism because it's become a religion. So we'll play that tomorrow. So sorry for throwing a curveball into the show. But it's this stack stuff today. All right, folks. Thanks again for tuning in. I really appreciated police subscribe to YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash Bongino. You can also subscribe to the audio show on itunes soundcloud. Iheartradio. Please subscribe it helps us move up. The charts helps other people find the show. We don't have a huge marketing budget here. So our growth is been organic to use the buzzword and is entirely attributable to us. So we really deeply appreciate. Support. You just heard the Dan Bongino show. 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A Shocking Letter Surfaces About The 2020 Election (Ep 1561)

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A Shocking Letter Surfaces About The 2020 Election (Ep 1561)

"Get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host dan bongino. They're not kidding around. How do you feel about your text messages and emails being monitored next all. That's not going to happen. They're not gonna do that. It's just fake book. Twitter screw tube tick tock snapchat and the other ones. They're the only ones monitoring what we conservatives are doing kicking us. They're definitely not going to read our text messages and emails. What's next listening in on our phone calls. A who knows could be right around the corner. You think i'm making this up. That story numero uno today political. No they literally wanna read your tax though. Yeah that's it for misinformation. What if it's the same misinformation told us the wuhan lab thing was a conspiracy. Dab misinformation story has not too happy today. Hey i protect my data with vpn. You should too go check it out go to express. Vpn dot com slash bongino. 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These are not conspiracy theories this is be engaging in rank hyperbole for so we could get a few extra downloads and clicks. Don't need them. Don't care about that stuff. Only care about honesty and truth and honesty. The truth is is we are in real trouble so this article creek up on politico yesterday otherwise known as a co if you get what i mean but i use it because this is from a left leaning alan because you know when i put this up there the fake book fact checkers who are really communist. Opinion checkers their their little Mini totalitarian see. I described that a little bit yesterday in case you missed the show. What happened to me. You know if i if i put up any conservative source which is typically accurate. The fact checkers like the little tyrants they are will jump all over the clip and say dan put a comments that of a period therefore we're fact checking what he said in the sense because it's grammatically incorrect so i try to use left-leaning sources sometimes to make it really hard for the fact checkers to do their thing. We are entering a dangerous new era of censorship. Start preparing now. I'm serious. i'm not kidding. This is not a joke. Start preparing now for third world type censorship and thought suppression here. Oh my good sounds crazy. Look you spiracy theory guy really. You are not in the parallel economy now. You better get there quick. I don't care what social media use parlor getter locals. Cloud hub is gap. I don't care but you better have an alternate social media presence other than facebook and twitter on the economy economic front. I told you. I set up a payment processor line. Pay dot com. If you'd like to use it fine if not up to you. I set that up as well. So you can get away from stripe. There are others out there. Setting up conservative banks. Get out while you can. We are entering third world type thought suppression status. Not a joke check out. This political story headline potentially a death sentence. The biden white house goes off on vaccine fear fearmongers. Now you're a fear keeping my comma. Harris said keep this up. This headline kamla harris are disgraced. Vice president now disgraced. Vice president. Now was the one during the campaign said. I'm not taking any vaccine. That trump put out to remember that. Was she a fear monger. No she was a goddess amongst you pathetic totalitarian disgusting left this losers yes. I'm a little pissed today. Sorry sub-headline administration has shifted to head on strategy to dispel fearmongering over the door to door efforts. Listen you know for a fact by the way of trump had gotten reelected right if trump was sitting in office. Right now right you know. For a fact the media would be publishing every single negative story about all of these vaccines to make trump. Look like he rushed this thing through. You know it. There's an interesting piece by. I think gerard baker in the wall street journal today that talks about exactly that if trump had gotten reelected every single kid. That got some kind of a blood clot. Every adult ed wiggins bar or whatever it's called from the johnson and johnson vaccine it would be on the nightly news every day with chiron trump russia's vaccine kills americans now the fact that the vaccine has some issues granted in the larger sample size. We haven't seen it in mass but has some issues. They wanna make all that go away now because it's biden. So how dare you ask questions. You're not even allowed to ask questions. So the biden administration wants people to go door to door. That's not adequate. That's not open for fact checking. That's a fact who those people are is open. For fact checking the biden administration has said they want people to go door to door but now that a lot of conservatives liberty loving americans like you know what. I don't want some dude knocking on my door telling me what to do with my body now. The biden administration is like no. We didn't mean like door to door. We meant like trusted messengers. I'll get to that in a second. I from the political piece. Maybe saying what does this have to do with censorship. oh jang out get their screen cap. One from the political piece. The biden administration is casting conservative opponents member conservative opponents of the covid vaccine as dangerous and extreme adopting a more aggressive political posture in an attempt to maneuver through the public health conundrum. Here we go biden. White house has decided to hit back harder on misinformation which usually means facts and scare tactics after republican lawmakers and conservative activists pledged to fight the administration's plans to go door to door to increase vaccine seen rates vaccine. Listen to this last sense very very important. The pushback will include directly calling out social media platforms and conservative new shows that promote such attacks. Folks new shows social media. I'm telling you we are walking right into dangerous. Third world thought suppression. The greatest irony of all right now is while cubans in a socialist communist. Marxist country are fighting for the freedom to speak freely in the streets. American liberal phil. Phil's bags here are fighting to institute accused a cuban style communist repressive regime right in the united states. You speak out about gain bar for the j. vaccine. Wow you're conservative. Show going to be removed from all the platforms. You're going to be taken down from social media again. Ladies and gentlemen. I'm begging you. I did another fake book. Live on this yesterday. About the fake fact checker. Please get into the parallel economy. Now you know. I'm an investor in rumble. I didn't even mention rumble before. If you want me. That's an alternative to youtube. There are multiple social media platforms that are alternatives to twitter and facebook. You have may way you got this new getter one. You got gab. you got parlor. You've got all of these entities out there. I don't care what you join that's up to you. I put my money where my mouth is. I'm not telling you what to do. I'm simply telling you get the hell out of the liberal cuba economy right now. It's not just your shows if you are a conservative out. There were has a show that wants to speak the truth. It's not just your social media platforms are going to go after. These are dangerous dangerous tyrants. I can't emphasize this enough. They will do anything for the griffith for the money. And the connections to as long as the last ones that have their heads cut off. They want to be the last ones in line for the guillotine. You doubt me about this door to door campaign which is really aggravated a lot of conservatives in liberty lovers out there who don't want you on their property they don't want you there. The biden administration like that. They wanna be able to walk on. You're probably trusted messengers again. I know they'll fact check this. Because they're communist they're communist bastards. I'm just gonna say that. That's what they are. And i'm tired of their their bolt. I'm tired of it. Here's foul she again. Who amazingly is asked the question. It's actually a decent question by a liberal refinery. Remember this guy's name. I'm sorry. they all blend in. They all say the same dumb stuff. But he's asking decent quite cut the question out in the interest of time but the question is is he s vouching says. Listen if your goal is to get more americans vaccinated do you really believe attacking them for not getting vaccinated is the way to do this to make them feel like the radiates to call them dopes to pull down facebook post because they mentioned that there are some side effects to the vaccine. That's a fact the degree of the side effects and how dangerous it is relatively speaking of course is open to interpretation ongoing data collection. It's been small yet but there are side effects. That's a fact you mentioned that on facebook. Of course the totalitarian communist holes come after you on fake book. Because they they're nothing more than tools of the government to cdc their government totalitarians. That's it here's she right here fouts. He doesn't like question like yeah. We really treat people bad or whatever then. He goes on to talk about. These trusted messengers. How they need to go to people's doors so i don't get it if people are smart. Enough should be left alone when the ready to get the vaccine. They'll get it then. Why are you sending trusted messengers to the door. Check this out. You know you have a point there. And that's the reason. John we're what's going on right now is getting trusted messages. Not government officials like myself but trusted messages in the community to outreach to people and those messages could be your family doctor. it could be clergy person. It could be a community leader. It could be a sports figure. It could be the people who really trusted by the community. So you're absolutely right. I mean telling people you know you've got to get vaccinated. You gotta get vaccinated. I mean i think it's important to point that out. People do need to know not in a jar way not in a finger pointing way but just look at the data or looking at the data. I mean isn't that what we're supposed to be doing. We're smart people who can look at the data. So why are you sending trusted messengers door to door to tell people. What do you think they're too stupid this again. Is this patrician model this. We're we're smarter than you. You dumb rubes. As i discussed yesterday you bunch of walmart dwelling smelly deodorant wearing folks. You're too stupid so we're going to send what a baseball coach to your house to knock it or hey it's coach. Larry you guys around. Yeah let me tell you about the vaccine bro. If i want to play shortstop and arrange more towards second base because it's a lefty poll header. I'll ask coach. Larry but want the vaccine. I don't give a damn coach. Larry has to say very sorry coach. Larry i wanna left handed relief pitcher in the eighth inning to get the lefty out. Has a trouble with lefty pitcher's curveball. I'll ask coach larry. I don't care about coach. Larry being a trusted messenger to tell me about where to go and get the vaccine. I'm not interested. Why would you go to coach. Larry you think it's hard to find the vaccine. Now they're saying listen. Nobody's going door to door to tell you about the vaccine. It's going to be where to get it. We know where to get it. It's called a phone or a computer where to get vaccine. It's not hard. You don't need coach. Larry for that trusted messengers. So i it's so people who don't get the vaccine then pull down their social media then attack. They're conservative shows for speaking the truth and then send people to their door. This sounds like kind of communist. Cuba stuff doesn't it. You think people are stupid. Nobody can figure out where to get this thing. That's stupid goes on second piece from political. Here's where it gets even worse. You think it's bad enough. They're coming after our shows and they're coming after your social media. If you dare speak the truth about the vaccine and the door to door trusted messengers from politico biden allied groups including the dnc are also planning to engage. Go folks fact checkers again. More aggressively as if they haven't been aggressive enough and they were going to work with. Sms carriers my reading this right to dispel misinformation about vaccines sent over text. Messages as osha media why is it. Surreal the goal is to ensure that people who may have difficulty getting a vaccination because of issues transportation see those barriers lesson the removed into. Yeah yeah. I'm sure that's exactly what this is about folks. It's about text message campaigns to make sure people have a ride to go get the vaccine because nobody knows how to do that. Nobody knows uber or anything like that. They can't figure uber left. Can't get a neighbor. They don't have cars again. You morons you don't know where it kinko's is despite the fact kinko's been out of business for thirteen years. He watch yesterday's show. You know what i mean. Only what was there was ever a moment for that drop. That was sherry. I want you to. There are two takeaways from that second politico cut. They're gonna deputize fact checkers to act more aggressively after that fact checker. I told you yesterday during my show attacked my page. For stating a statistical fact ruben portela carbonara from health feedback dot. Org fact checked a statistical. Fact i put out on my show backed up by data that the delta variant fatality rate zero point zero eighth because ruben portela cobb era is one of these hates the truth and he works with fake book and others to suppress the true because they want you scared old. Now they're going to work with fact checkers to be more aggressive. They're gonna work with. Sms carries to watch your text messages. Folks you read it right there. They're going to dispel mississippi quota. Exactly because i know the fact checker losers watch my show. They sit there glued to the screen clockwork orange style. The sms cars are going to work to dispel misinformation. It's interesting who gets to declare. What misinformation is it. The same people who said the hundred stores made up is it. The same people told us. Russian collusion was real. Is it the same people told us to was a conspiracy theory. Those fact checkers. They're going to work with them to dispel misinformation about vaccine sent over text message. That's interesting that's kim jong would really love that. I'm sure if we dell's very proud right now. I'm sure he's looking down on them right now. Like my man. He's like this full. Yes my man. Fidel saluting with his military cap on his military cap. he's writing. He's like monitor the liberal tyrant scumbags in the united states. Tired you losers. I am so tired of you. Useful idiots listen sorry about the language too bad. i am so tired of these communists. Losers and the useful idiots. Who facilitate them waltzing in a new era of soviet style third world communism in the united states. Because they're just too stupid to figure out there being used as pawns. Mark my words on this mark day. Mark the show episode fifteen. Sixty one your emails or next you think they monitoring your text messages. They won't monitor your emails next your emails. Our next one hundred percent. You never thought you get to the day where they monitor your text messages right. Today's here your emails or next. Your phone calls come after. That don't doubt me at tip. The great rush limbaugh. I was his line. Let me get my second sponsor me get back to this again after after the sponsor. I want to get back to this. What's going on in cuba because again. It's slightly ironic. No the cubans are marching for freedom. In a communist country while in supposedly free constitutional probably liberals marching more to be like cuba. They want speech suppression totalitarianism. They want racism in the country. That's what's going on right here. Supposedly free country while cubans march for freedom. You'll know how much. 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Just admit your full of your epic front remember bernie. He was goods to millionaires and billionaires until he became a millionaire now. We says just the billionaires forget to billions because i am remember this fake phony fraud. Remember the bartender to the bartender. She's all it for the little guy. Too big socialist drives a nice. Tesla has a really expensive apartment. I don't fault them that. I don't fault them. That and it was an article. I read this week by the off critics. Who's a liberal dunce. But the liberal. That's not hypocritical. You know they're arguing. Aoc for tax system. That would hurt them because they'd have to pay more money. That's not what they're arguing four. That's not their arguing for a system of socialism that takes from others according to their abilities and gives to others according to their needs should be giving away her stuff because she has no ability to others who needed. That's our principles do with taxes. Taxes are as surrogate argument for socialism. They just avoid them. Anyway asked john kerry and al sharpton. That's not what they're arguing for their arguing for socialism. The redistribution of common goods bernie doesn't own common goods. He owns private homes expensive cars so does aoc full of crap. That's why they've been completely quiet about the liberty eruption. That happened cuba. How do you know it's a liberty eruption because they're literally screaming libertad liberty in spanish. I haven't seen a piece all week about this only tuesday but it's a good one scott mckay and the american spectator. He mentioned my name in it. Which i appreciate but that's really not the reason i'm putting it in there. It's a very good piece very good piece. He mentioned what we discussed on yesterday's show. And i really hope you go back and listen to. It was an important show where i mentioned. That government's job is only to ensure freedoms government doesn't grant freedom. God does you have god-given big r rights. You were born with those rights. The government doesn't give you anything and government is just us. It's a collective agreement through founding documents and law amongst all of us that we are going to enshrine in writing a series of things us the government when given power in the government can't do to other people so we preserve rights. Those rights aren't giving you by government. Aoc and bernie don't understand that they think your rights are granted to you somehow by government bureaucrats. Who don't know jack squat about you or your life but this is a good piece talking about these total frauds on the left and how last week really wasn't too good for them. The piece is called a hard week for the hard left as cuba rupp's they've gotten awfully quiet. Those hard left this haven't they by scott mckay again. It's worth your time remember all that. Bs we heard from all these cuba acolytes acolytes. Who love to give back rubs to the castro regime bernie and others. Oh their house. Bottles are so wonderful. Really people are dying and starving in cuba. They haven't had a new car there since the nineteen fifties embargo. It's you know what's funny went venezuelan as evident bargo and marxism madison. Destroy that place. Just a few years embargo were not you think it's the embargo that's what did it. You may wanna look at confounding variables in the scientific method. Try it sometime. It always works. The cuban hospitals are wonderful. Really that's interesting. We haven't heard much about how great the cuban hospitals that are people are dying in mass from cova down in cuba. But here from the spectator piece. It mentions this. He says no wonder. The cat got bernie and aoc's tongues. It does look good talking about the bad week for the left and since they've regaled us with laughable for years about how cuba's medical system which doesn't even have clean needles or bandages by the way much less hospital beds or machines is better than ours and how cuba's more equitable than america. Something that was insulting to the intelligence of all considering. Fidel castro died a richer man than mitt romney so did hugo chavez the other idea idolize called the oh by the way their silence is golden. Don't hear much. About those vaunted cuban hospitals anymore do you as cova ravages that country and listen before leftists. Who again sean penn. I'm assuming and others want to extol the virtues of how wonderful capital excuse me. Cuba is how terrible capitalism is before you do that and tell us and say well listen. The hospital system in cuba would be better. It's just the american embargo just like you. Food medicine aren't including the embargo. She can shut your mouth. Take your mouth and shut it because you're an idiot who doesn't know anything and idiots our best staying quiet other than advertising to the world. How dumb they are. If the embargo really venezuela was an embargo in venezuela turn to marxism and destroyed its entire economy and under five years. Kinda strange right how. Those variables always seemed correlated. Marxism poverty marxism poverty marxism poverty more marxism more poverty. More poverty. More marxism marxism more poverty. Really weird how you kind of missed that correlation every time that also is a fascinating point at the end though that castro died a wealthier man than mitt romney but they love castro and they hate mitt romney. That's probably something where it's a little bit mutual. I don't like mitt romney either but yeah that's a nice nugget there. Sure show panel be raging against the ghost of fidel castro course. Not but it's time to start posting our wsb. The left has had a bad week. And as i said to you last week it. I don't want to be macab guy all the time. everything's bad. the sky's falling. Listen a lot of stuff is going on right now. That's really really bad. I have a thing going on in my neighborhood. I'm gonna be talking about because it relates to a larger issue. But i do want to take some optimistic tone when i say posting ws. It's an internet thing for like posting wins. Advertising wins. We've had some big wins last. Few weeks have not been good for the democrats even the biggest naysayers in the world. And you know the debbie downer no matter what happened Everything's over the world's ending. Forget it tomorrow. Even the biggest. Debbie downer danny down or have to acknowledge the last few weeks of not being good for leftist here from the same piece in the spectator. It'll be up on my show notes by gino dot com slash newsletters. How you access the notes slash newsletter. Same thing i democrats. Legislators in texas had to flee the state. No masks by the way and the plane which i thought. They were about after seeing crushing defeats in a special session. That would block virtually everything their cultural agenda they had to flee the state these losers remember. How texas was turning blue about really more from the peace president. Biden's crime plan nope not well received at all flush that baby down the toilet yip consumer prices keep rising which we were told was not really a thing despite it being thing and biden lying to us. Then there's the collapse of the tucker. Carlson eric alex jones narrative when it became indisputable the carson was carson was telling the truth about the nsa spying on them more bad news for the left. The burgeoning political catastrophe. That's hundred biden's art career while the laptop continues trickling out nuggets of joy. And lastly even the lego set of terror. Narrative couldn't miss the end. The pressure of the you did you hear that story. The january sixth the insurrection. The insurrection turns out like we. What was the plan. Did selection because we founded dude with a fully constructed lego kit. I that's not a joke. Listen to me. That is not a joke that joe. I'm not really happened a usa. The assistant united states attorney the prosecutor. What he's january six guys direction. There was a lego kid. The capitol. I as lego kit when i was younger. I think i had the millennium falcons zambian i was taking the death star out. I don't think so. I just i don't even think i put the darn thing together. I was built a castle with legos with my kid. Does that mean. I'm storming oheka castle up in new york second largest private residence united states. How do i know that. Because i got married there. It's a cool place. Are we storming that tomorrow. Apparently the government thinks having a lego kid is definitely ever not only that really bad week for the democrats. The panic is now breaking out. It is a candidate. So reason like pop. The corks fights over we won. I'm going to show you some information later about an email. I got from a woman about masks shows. You know. this fight isn't even close to. It's just begun going to sit here and tell you that your activism and what you've been doing against crt against fraudulent elections that it's not paying off. We are starting to post them. W i gotta take a quick break for sponsor but neither side is. I'm gonna show you. Two cuts from video had tip newsbusters. It's great video about the media totally completely now. Melting down losing all their druthers over. Crt because they know we're winning and we expose them for what they are coming up in a second to cuts from his very good including cut teachers. I thought they said they weren't teaching. Crt schools newsbusters put get a cut of teachers claiming they're teaching crt schools. It's just terrific. Hey things are getting crazier out there. It's time to come to terms of the inevitable. 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Twenty five percent. Go to prepare with dan dot com. You'll find this special offer a four week. Emergency food kit. That's prepare with. Dan dot com. Don't wait do it today. Prepare with dan dot com. Thanks my patriot. Supply preparewithglenn dot com. Check it up without further ado. Here is the again posting w segments and wins for us the media melting down. They've now resorted just a i. I mean i don't even wanna say lying there. Well well they were lying about. Crt the whole time what. It was what it is where it is aware. It isn't but now we were there just in complete meltdown. They don't know what to do and folks one quick point in this. I've studied the left for a long time of think. One of the value added components of this program is having run for office having worked in a white house with the most liberal president in modern american history. Before by barack obama you see things from a different perspective. And i'm telling you for a fact when you see panic like this and panic like running around with their hair on fire. I mean panic in that. They can't seem to get their message. Straight that is usually the telltale sign that we're winning and that in-fighting is broken out. Usually they speak like like the board they speak with like a collective mind their told do their donors what to say. The problem now is they're losing so badly on. Crt one donors say and this one donors saying that one donor saying double down defense crt critical race theory. The other donors saying let's pretend critical race theory doesn't exist. That teachers unions are telling them defend critical race theory. We're going to donate money towards it. The other teachers university pretend we don't teach it when you see disjointed chaos message incoherence like this. It means where winning here. This is caught one. Here's the media again. Totally melting down. Check this out. The media really wished that the whole debate over critical race theory would just go away. State after state fox news and republicans conservatives have whipped up a moral panic about so-called critical race theory. This is just. The latest outrage device over at fox is it not in a bad faith effort by republicans to make critical race theory a wedge issue blowing critic racers enormously useful. It's a graduate level. Construct it's not taught in k through twelve again. It is not being taught in grade schools. No one is teaching critical race theory k. Through twelve can you just repeat the law school. What is critical. What is critical race theory. I suspect it's not as major issue is. We've made it out to be in the media. Sorry we're checking bank you by the way. This came through great. Great great. great great ratings for the suffolk. Show we literally just came through. Thank you very much. I really i so appreciate your support. It really means the world to me. Thank you so much. Great great numbers. I mean just came through right now. Just got a text from the great producers. sabrina. Joe is the king van though joe's the original. But there's been a series of other great producers to including producers. Sabrina just sent me them. Thank you very very much but did you see it there. Did you see how the message is. Totally incoherent guys ladies. I'm not here to waste your time or spin. Your wheels jerky around. When you run for office you see it. You see because it comes through on a tax on you and just to give you an example. When i was running for congress and won election. Nobody paid any attention to me until the end the second one the race. I almost one until the end when they realized it was going to get really close. It was like crazy. Talk like dan a martian. No he's not he's from jupiter know we heard he's from another galaxy we heard he's from the alien predator movie. I mean i'm being a little dramatic but the attacks that came in were so incoherent ridiculous. It was evidence that they were really concerned and they were just kind of throwing crap against the wall to see what would stick. That's what's happening now. We're teaching critical racier. No we're not an academic course. No it's illegal course. It's a graduate course. It's a kids course. it's an adult course. it's about racist. It's not about racist. democrats. This is your winning. Listen to take a little bit of about get right back to work. You are winning. You're showing up at your school board. You're emailing legislators you're winning. This is why there's such a mess. Here's part two in by the way. Go to newsbusters social media. You can see the whole video. It's two minutes and thirty. Nine second show gives us to the best cuts. But here's cut to hear remember. They just told you. We're not teaching it in schools. You just heard that. And then they said no. We are teaching in graduate school and then they told you here we are. We're going to guard said we're going to defend critical race theory and the teachers are saying no. We're not teaching it. But here's a compilation of teachers on their own videos putting it out on social media how they are teaching critical race theory. I thought they weren't teaching. Check this out. What even is critical race theory. Nobody knows it's too high level. What is anything seriously. it's like. They're scared to admit it even exists. And did i hear chris. Hayes say so called critical race theory chris. The right didn't come up with that name. The academics defending did you see what they're doing here right there basically defining critical race. There is this extremely niche high level academic theory so they can claim that kids aren't learning it in school but they can define it however they want but to the average person critical race theory is a catch all term for all the familiar sixteen nineteen project type ideas. White privilege institutional and structural racism. The idea that america is inherently racist. You get the idea. Our kids being taught that in school. Absolutely unequivocally yes joy. Reid may not think so but the teachers do racism systematic. So it's impossible to be systematically racist white people in an american society teaching that systemic racism exists isn't in itself a racist practice. That is the first step toward healing which this country desperately needs. I am part of the equity and racial justice team at my school district and have been mentoring students of color. Who have been leading these changes in our district they have implemented new curriculum that is on whitewashed these children's quote unquote history. Books are so problematic. Kids learn about the american revolution. We learn about one black man on the front of the book and everybody else in here is why even though i'm a kindergarten teacher. I am very active in education reform. In honor of the anniversary of. George floyd seth. Let's haven't hot take on education. Let's talk about how schools marginalized african american students. There is going to be a right side of history and a wrong side of history when you stay out of it. You're on the wrong side these guys. Don't even tell me these guys. I have this white line under by right high like during the break. Hey you have this white line underneath your eye over there. I'm like well you guys gonna tell me you should have seen me during the commercial break not to convert. I'm like what the heck is it. Turns out just so you know in case you've been watching the show now you're going to have to go watch. Rubble not a trick. Hey that's right who you know. I have to put on before the show because it's hotter than haiti's in this place. I have to put on this matter. Fire i must have just put it on like clumped up. Because i'm listen. We don't have expensive fancy makeup part. I'm the guy and i had to put that. They didn't even tell me the whole show. There's this big line to my right eye on the ball. Yeah you didn't know they not know under the. I'm going to have to watch this show myself today but wasn't key says it wasn't that bad but i think he's just covering up for kaz him. Adjustable joe is day. Two of we got inter justed and producer gay. None of them could figure big clump of like matter fire on my face because i am. There is no worse makeup artists in human history than me. I'm not wearing that crap and do we really care. Seriously i think of question for the. Can you email us all today. Do you really care if like everybody's shiny on the show because it does it gets hot and here we get these lives. You care if you don't care whether or not this is like craft video. You gotta put that stuff. I don't really care who cares you care if you say no. I'm not putting it on anyone. Make up on you i do. I mean you're the trade. I know distract you being interviewed by the cops when you greasy and sweaty put. Yeah i joe's been in business all right. Sorry i'm all tangled up here. You got me all distracted. With this thing under maya You got gotta move on because we got serious stuff to get to listen. This is a very serious topic. It flows from that. Crtv thing where you can see the teachers are. They don't know what their messages you teaching it or not. You're not teaching it. Why are you going on your social media accounts for posting videos talking about teaching. Crt i i don't get it. I mean it's not a commonsense question. We're not teaching it. But you're bragging about teaching. There is a brewing war. Going on right now. I'm going to call it the zip code war for this segment of for the purposes of this segment. It's very important you know about the zip code wars. It's a racist war against asian americans. It's happening right now and make no mistake. It's racist against asians and jewish american citizens as well. I'm gonna prove it to you right now. Because the left is desperate to discriminate as abram kennedy who is a critical race theory scholar and believe me. I'm using that word loosely. Said he said racial discrimination is not narrowly racist. It isn't really. He said the only remedy to racist discrimination is anti-racist discrimination the only remedy to pass the scrimmage nation is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination future discrimination folks. Those are kennedy's words. He is a prominent critical race theorists despite his protestations otherwise he has already acknowledged publicly. But he's been influenced heavily by critical race theory. The guy's not that bright. He couldn't even define racism. I don't need to play that video again. You remember that but there is a prominent critic. Racers telling you that they will discriminate now and in the future. I i really. I genuinely thought we had come to an american consensus on the fact that discrimination was bad. I guess not liberals are all about discrimination and they're proving it right now. Read this article. I saw on the wall street journal this morning. It's really terrible. The articles good is about a terrible thing a pta. Purge of asians america's top public high school shows us. What discrimination looks like today's by william mcgurn so turns out joe. Those troublesome asians. They're at it again. Those troublesome asians and you know those jewish people aren't far behind. You got it to abram kennedy said you gotta discriminate against those asians really. What are the asians up to now. Those troublesome asians. Well they're doing this really awful thing like succeeding in school and getting into schools. And do we really. Oh my god how do we stop that. Those troublesome asians. How do we keep the medicine hardware. Can't have them working hard and get into schools. Can't have that stuff you know. Make some white adjacent. According to the critical racers like defacto white. Yeah but they're not it doesn't matter they act white. What is white me they study. Yeah yeah that's like whiteness or whatever so it turns out in this. Oh yeah dude is right. That's the probably jude jude. Thomas jefferson high school for science and technology. It's a really great school. Ranked number one public high nationwide era too many asians in that school and racist liberals they are hardcore bigots. There's nothing they hate more than successfully doubt me well. In december the county school board changed his mission policy into thomas jefferson school replacing rigorous race blind entrance exam with a holistic subjective formula that includes grades but also puts caps on the number of students. Each miracles at middle school could send to thomas jefferson but they facto limit on middle schools with high numbers of asian. American students. this zip code will can't send bunch of kids from that zip code into the school. It's too many patients. The desired result has been achieved. The percentage of asian-americans admitted to tj dropped to fifty four percent this year from seventy three percent last year whites blacks and latinos all saw their numbers go up. I thought it was less whites. Do either the white. I'm getting a few no doubt folks. This is only the beginning zip. Code wars are starting. Here's how this is going to work. Because asian american students there is a culture of hard work. You can't say that that sounds racist to the these people are it's aid because they succeed and do quite well and get into schools a race blind entrance exam they don't like that so liberals who are racists bigots they are. They are not soft bigots. They are hard biggest. Are sick of the a hate asians. They can't stand they they just can. So what did they do. They're gonna make these new zip code rules now that yeah. We can't take that many students from this high school this zip code. Because there's too many asians such as the asians don't like they don't like the jews either they really don't like the jews that's coming up later a piece about california but showing you how racists these people are. Here's an article my newsletter. You re today. Washington examiner nicholas rohan. A federal judge in massachusetts withdraws his opinion after anti white texts emerge in boston public schools case. And it tell me. These people aren't racist bigots so the case was a simple one. It was about school districts and moving kids around stuff like that. The judge said listen. I've been misled. This opinion can't stand noting. He's never once retracted. An opinion is thirty five years on the bench. What happened well. These to school board members. They were trying to pretend they weren't making decisions based on race and they left these tech out that just recently surfaced. They are very telling the to school. Board members are alexandra. Olivia davila and former member lorna rivera. They addressed their hatred of west roxbury a mostly white neighborhood in boston. By saying quote. These are their tax. I hate wr west roxbury. Olivia davila texted to rivera and rivera replied. I'm sick of west. The whites olivia davila then. Followed up me too. I really feel like sane. How many of these people aren't big. It's tell me one more time how these people aren't racists or bigots. I hate west. The whites replace whites with anything else. Other than asians. Because they do hate asians to blacks or hispanics put that. How does that sound that sound. Good sounds kind of racist to me right. They don't like the jews either though. That's another one. Here's another article california's. ethnic studies. Gold rush is article in the journals. About how there's big money in race-hustling in crt billions of dollars flowing of your tax dollars your tax dollars into california via the joe biden. Stimulus plan are flowing into the california school district to hire a bunch of people who really don't like jews. Oh yeah that's right. Some of the places your money's going. They had an ethnic studies curriculum. They're going to promote with your tax dollars. And it sparked a public outcry why because it contained significant anti semitic sentiment such as a poem insinuating that the jews control the media. These people are crazy. These people are crazy. You're dealing with crazy. People are hard core. Bigot racists the left hardcore not sof hard core races history is going to look. Listen ladies and gentlemen the biggest so the prior century who enslaved blacks and celebrated jim crow at the time. I promise you thought they were good people. Look he's our sub humid people history. Thank god looks back on them as a moral stain. They were now. Thank the lord. I'm not using his name in vain. What horrible people allowed that to happen. Watched it. I promise you history is going to look back the same way on these people now talking about how much they hate whites hate. Asians hate the jews. I promise you they will. I promise you you will be staying on history. Your grandkids will be embarrassed to say they knew you. I am not kidding. You may celebrate. Now 'cause you're in your liberal bottom will you think you're on the right moral arc of history. You are going to become a historical stain and your kids will wipe your memory clean when they find out who you really were. West the whites anti semitic poems discriminating against our asian brothers and sisters. You disgust me. Yourself your filth. The worst among us a stain on this country to your families to your neighbors to everyone let me get to my last month. So what talk about local issues. And i want to get to this. Mix wayne letter before we go. Because it's important unless sponsors our friends at brickhouse nutrition. They one of my original sponsors folks. I asked miles. He owns brickhouse nutrition. And put this product together about four years ago five years ago. The problem was i like those fruit and nutrition supplements. But i was taking the pills like fruit and vegetables and pills and whatever and they're just not very good. A lot of our extract stuff is crap who knows how they produce it. So i said two miles. Can you make really high quality fruit and vegetable supplement. I mean how hard is just take a bunch of high quality. 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She's like what the hell's wrong with your face like what's rue rented a bed like my face burn off. Someone poured gasoline on my what happened. And i look at my eyes puffed out the here and a whole week on fox news this nasty black guy. You remember that up all over my face. They like we can see the makeup. Just leave the black-eyed makeup backup. Looks even worse so quick. I live in a town in florida. And i moved down here to get away from this so we last night get away from liberal nonsense so last night i'm sitting around. I get an email from the new mayor and it's like hey you know we're going to raise your taxes. No big deal. It was nothing like yeah. Just pick your eaten picked. It looks as what's going to happen at this rate. And i'm like you can do what you think i moved me. Just get this straight. You think i moved to florida to pay higher taxes like that. That's your sales pitch. Come to florida pay higher taxes so the town. I live in which they're going to vote on this soon. The town commission. I'm going to be naming their individual names if they do vote And i'll be giving out the public figures we can all this is just for suicide. No no no. That's okay. that's all right. They're public figures they could take. If that don't run for public office you can go become a private executive somewhere worked for yourself. But i'll be giving out through emails and contact information and you can let them know how you feel about taxes. Because i'm out. I was gonna we're gonna move. We were going to move anyway to be fair but we're going to stay within the neighborhood. I live in now but now we're not because the fact that they're even thinking about this says that the place i thought i lived in. I don't live in. And i know you think it's no big deal. Just one person leaving new york before ten years of u hauls evacuated the city and everybody came to florida. So you do that here. I'll make sure everybody knows about it. Because that's what i do because you know i have a voice to. That's the funny part about this thing. You know that's the whole thing about it. Democracies people get to speak out and stuff like that so. I know you don't think that applies to you but you go ahead. You raise the taxes here and you're gonna lose me and everyone else's i tell everyone not to come here so your choice your choice about money. It's mobile united. Spend a lot of money in this neighborhood. I'm very good to people around here. And that's not a self-praise thing. It's a fact. Because i like my neighbors and i like my friends. You're gonna ruin the place. Oh yeah we get a raise your taxes because we could. I can do a lot of things. I could do to see how that works out for. That's why i put this fox business article up to. Because i don't know if you noticed but the united states janet yellen. She's a course from the biden. Administration is trying to cajole bunch of european governments to impose a global tax. Why because they hate. What's going to happen with point. Now that i'm leaving here and will not be living on the silent anymore now. The three even thinking about this. I was going to buy another house here. Because i have to move bigger studio for the fox show and everything. We're not doing that anymore. We will be evacuating this place as soon as possible. Taken all our money with us too. But that's why they want a global tax because they don't want you to be able to flee from one country to the next to seek out crazy things like economic freedom you know. I know you think it's a small thing to but listen. I'm not going to sit here and lecture you all about local activism when local issues affect me in and not be been activists myself there are a lot of people on this island. I live at are good people. They came here to get away from all this nonsense. Not to be subjected to a couple of dunces on a commission. We're like we're going to raise your taxes because we feel like we know better. You don't know squat. You don't know jack squat about the first damn thing about taxes or economic zero anything embarrassing even live on the island which is hilarious love about me but local activism matters if you want to send me some of your local stories by the way we'll consider putting on the show to tie you change things you have a voice to all right. This is an important story. I told you. I was going to follow up on the two thousand twenty shenanigans which sadly continued folks. They're in a panic about pennsylvania. Who's they the biden administration. The pennsylvania democrats are really. I'm not kidding. They're in a panic. And what did i tell you before about the crtv media messaging when you see this kind of incoherent shotgun messaging where everybody's losing their marbles and is in total panic about what to say went to say and how to say you know. The democrats are losing because they're getting input from a bunch of chattering class. A folks out there who can't seem to agree on how to fight back. They know twenty twenty and pennsylvania. The election day no shady. They know it so they want an audit in pennsylvania. It's being led by senator doug mastery ano- who says he has. The votes by state center has the votes for the audit participants nuts. A former assistant. State's attorney government lawyers bay. They work for the department of justice. Obviously former assistant unites states attorney wrote a letter to trump that just became public. His name is mick swain. Did you see this. There's a part at the end which is stunning. He worked for bill. Barr this guy in pennsylvania. This guy makes swing. Let me read to you one portion of it which is really a shocker. He says quote on election day after his letter to trump. Excuse me. I just wanna make sure. I'm clear on election day and afterwards our office received various allegations of voter fraud and election. Irregularities he goes on to say as part of my responsibilities as a us attorney. I want to be transparent with the public and of course investigate fully any allegations. Okay starts out pretty good. He says however attorney general. Bill barr instructed me not to make any public statements or put out any press releases regarding possible election irregularities i was also given a directive to pass along serious allegations to the state attorney general investigation the same state attorney general. Who had already declared. You could not win again. He's addressing the you is president trump. What the hell is that bad again. The left this want us to pretend the whole twenty twenty. Shenanigans thing didn't happen. I told you we will operate on this show because i don't speak with forked tongue and i encourage you to do. We will operate on parallel tracks. We can't possibly clean up. What happened in two thousand twenty by electing democrats at twenty twenty two but we can't possibly elect more republicans at twenty twenty two without figuring out what happened in two thousand twenty. Both of those things are true if pennsylvania's election processes the mess we think it is we stand very little chance of taking the state back. We have to clean this up now. That letter is devastating. That was a united states attorney. That's not some tomato guy. That's not some ham and egger fighter. That was a united states attorney putting down in writing to president trump that he was told not to do any press releases and refer all allegations to the state attorney general who was biased lunatic. Sounds like a real conspiracy to me. Not a conspiracy theory like the left says all right had a few more stories. We're gonna have to get through tomorrow including another story about this obsession with putting face diapers on your kids. It's really to the point of psychosis now. One quick programming note. I have drago desiree. And he was on my unfiltered show this week on fox. I know you all loved him. I read your feedback was incredible. Thank you have him on my radio show today at the top of the one o'clock hour the second hour of the show for those wis delay so i really appreciate you checking about real american hero. Navy seal came here from communist. Poland tremendous story. Don't miss it. Thanks again for tuning in folks. I'll see you tomorrow dan bongino.

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Ep. 895 Liberals Will Never Leave You Alone

The Dan Bongino Show

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Ep. 895 Liberals Will Never Leave You Alone

"The. Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show. That's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan Bongino, Dan. Dan Bongino, show producer, Joe. How are you today? Just Jim dandy. Daddy, o Jim dandy. This. You know, my mind we we had an incredibly stack. Newsday yesterday. Attorney general nominee bar was up on the hill for the hearings a couple ups and downs with that. I get to that a second Pelosi did his cames out came out and said, she went she wanted Donald Trump to delay the state of the union address because of get a load of this Joe the secret service, the security arrangements, and the fact that the secret service hasn't been paid, listen, I was a secret service agent. These are my friends I wish they were being paid right now. But I'm telling you Nancy Pelosi is making this up. I keep contact with a number of my former secret service friends, let me get this one thing out there. This will not affect the secret services security arrangements for the state of the union address. One iota not a little bit Pelosi has no idea what she's talking about. Which is pretty common Nancy Pelosi. She is just making that up. These are really super dedicated men and women, and I assure you, although there. They're dealing with the shutdown the best way they can they are going to work and doing their jobs. This is the most ridiculous absurd requests I've ever seen on the news now Pelosi asked Trump to postpone the state of the union, she says playing political posturing and a lame attempt at that. They gotta stack show today. I wanna tell you why John Brennan's in a world that trouble talk about exploding story about an FBI upper level management individual who is now apparently involved in a criminal investigation, which we just found out about yesterday also debate I had on FOX I signed today show brought to you by our buddies at Genucell. Hey, listen, twenty eight teams in the books, which means that the Turkey necks, and double chins, are not getting better by just ignoring them. Unfortunately, they'll just be getting worse. So you love this commercial. Don't you? Yeah. Mean? So if you missed out on Genucell outrageous Christmas sale today is your lucky day. Because now the brand new Genucel jawline treatment is yours absolutely free. When you order the Genucell for under eye bags and puffiness, but wait there are three free gifts. She will get for the next two weeks only the Genucel immediate effects for results in less than twelve hours and Genucell XP for most advanced collagen builder anti wrinkle treatment and Chamonix even throw in the Genucel eyelid treatment by family loves this stuff. It works. Really? Well, that's three free gifts. But you have to hurry. Text young. Why? Oh, U N G text young two seven seven four five three or go to Genucel dot com. Go to Genucel dot com. The next twenty minutes, you'll also get free express shipping. Call or click now hurry free gifts for a limited time while supplies last. Text young two seven seven four five three or go to Genucel dot com. G E N UC L dot com or text young two seven seven four five three. That's Genucel dot com. Okay. I just a quick owning of the libs yesterday up on Capitol Hill by bar now on the bars the Bill bars, the attorney general nominee by President Trump. He's undergoing the confirmation hearings. You may have seen some of them yesterday on the cable news channels. They were playing a lot of it live. There were a couple interesting moments. I'll say a given a fair assessment of bar. I thought he was very composed. I thought he did an excellent job in the hearings yesterday. But there are some, you know, potential red flags there, I believe he's been very accommodating to Muller when asked about the uranium one investigation. He didn't seem overly eager to pursue potential criminality or influenced by foreign governments and Hillary Clinton's decision making also again with the Muller prob-, you know, not not willing to get it. He can't call it a witch onto, but he thought he should have been a little more forceful with with stating his position on what the Muller probe scope is what they're doing when it should. Up. You get what I'm saying Joe, but but on that front there were some really positive moments to including this one exchange where he absolutely bar destroys hack of political activist and radical liberal nonsense purveyor, Richard Blumenthal, democratic Senator who tries to nail listen to this exchange is is a good momma to stop it. If we through and kind of set it up but talking fast as I got a lot of stories to get to today, but Blumenthal is here's what he does. This classical liberal trick. Now, Joe being talk radio you've seen this before. And I know, you know, because you and I have discussed it before as well, folks. If you're going to be an activist or you're going to be a politician to run for office one days, a conservative you have to be ready for this liberals do this all the time. They ask a question. That's not a question. The question is actually a premise. They only want you to confirm the classical examples when did you stop beating your wife stopped me? I didn't I don't beat my way. And that's the headline. The headline is, you know, whatever Joey bag of Donut says, I don't beat my wife and everybody asks the question when they see the headline. Well, who said he beat his wife? Right. Nobody said that the premise was the question. They just wanted you to get a comment on the record about it. Blooming doll tries this trick with with Bill Barr. Who expertly throws it right back in his face. When he tries to set up the premise of the question at Donald Trump being investigated by the FBI in and of itself is indication of guilt, which it isn't. But while I'm gonna stop it halfway through watch. How bar expertly deflects this back. This is a beautifully. Well, done position on challenging challenging the premise of the question in itself who when the FBI begins an account or intelligence investigation. If it is of the president of the United States for working with a foreign adversary. That decision would be subject to multiple levels of review within the FBI. Correct. I assume I don't know what rules were in effect at the time. Well, in your experience would be and you have no reason to think that those rules have changed. I don't know what the practice was. There was an almost certainly in that kind of extraordinary investigation. You would agree with me? It would be extraordinarily for the FBI to be investigating the president for working with a determined foreign adversary there probably would be information shared with the deputy attorney general or the attorney terminal. Agreed. I would I would hope. So the reason I'm hesitating is because you know, some of these texts that we will read are so weird and beyond my experience with the F B. I don't know what was going on. The these reports are stomach. Yes. Ellison again. I don't want to get over the top celebrating anybody too much of a lotta Torey fashion. But this was a beautiful exchange. I was in the car just so, you know, coming back from the gym a mess. I add a brutal workout yesterday at I'm listening to this on Sirius XM, and I'm like, yes. Finally, a guy who gets it up on the hill. Do not accept the premise of the question. Joe? Do you see what he did there? Yeah. Hack Blumenthal, radical far left activists hack Blumenthal. The question is the answer. Well, wouldn't you agree that the fact that the FBI is investigating in an extraordinary investigation, president states for acting with foreign adversaries, wouldn't you agree? This has to be vetted multiple ways the premise of the question is a statement not a question he wants Barwick knowledge that the president is guilty just because he's being investigated. You get that right. Yeah. I know you do, but I'm talking to the rest of you out there Josie audience up wasn't his instinct is to answer for the audience far expertly, flips the scrip and the Dipsy doo flip through of what does he say? Yeah. You know, what mood make sense? But given these texts I've read, of course, referring to thanks between the lead investigator in the case, Peter stroke with the FBI and his girlfriend at the time. Lisa page, a lawyer with the FBI which indicated how much they hate Trump. He expertly turns it back at the Blumenthal at refocuses the premise of the question on the F B I's malice not on Donald Trump's guilt by association with the FBI. Don't accept the premise of the question. Don't give them the quote Joey bag of donuts. When did you stop beating your wife? What did you just say that to me? Are you are you then the then the quote in the paper comes did you just say that to me not? I don't beat my that. You don't give them. Don't see the premise of the question and Barr who is a obviously given an attorney and his experience in government is obviously a skilled debater understands what's happening right away. And he says you notice his hesitancy even acknowledges Joe. Yeah. Barr. Says I'm hesitant to answer the question because and he automatically rephrase the question reframing, it not in terms of why Trump is guilty because he's being a being investigated. But at the FBI, but why the FBI is guilty because of these tax nice nice. It gets better in the second half, though, this this is this is even better that was just that that was the C game bar opposite to the game. Here you heard a little bit of that. Can we rewind not a little bit or we have to start right from there? I don't know how Jos technology works. It's right from there. Okay. So Blumenthal Blumenthal says well, wouldn't you agree that these reports are stomach-turning in other words woman, tossing the fact that Trump is even be investigated by the F B N S reports isn't that stomach-turning listened to bars spots about stomach-turning? This is this is a plus level trolling right here. In terms of the absolutely stunning and unprecedented. Kind of investigation that they reflect you degree. You mean, the texts are stump stomach-turning. The reports of the investigation of the president. I'm not sure what you're talking about. When you say that reports of the investigation their reports that the FBI. Open an investigation of the president for working with a foreign adversary. Russia and what's stomach churning about that? Which? Stomach-turning that allegation against the president. And the allegation would be made and be under investigation. Well, let me let me move on. That that is not a laugh track to genuine hilarity right there. Well, what is what is stomach turning the tax on another? A let me move on. Let me do you wanna talk about great? A ownership. Owning a completely owning the libs in a debate. There. It is right there. Ma- bloom all let me move on Blumenthal. Who doesn't have the intellectual capabilities to deal with the man who's as skilled debating is bar bar bar? This you have to understand again for for the some of the there were some road. Bumps say, I don't wanna get golden Caffey on these. We shouldn't be you know, genuflecting in front of any person the government. She questioned everywhere where some bad moments, but this was some epic level stuff because bar who has been the attorney general before. He doesn't need this. He said that multiple times. Joe he doesn't need it. He doesn't need the job. He didn't go out and solicit the job or or wasn't wasn't overly aggressive in his pursuit of the position. He doesn't need it. He wasn't taken offers from people who could help them advances position. Forget he doesn't need it. You could tell in his testimony yesterday. He's like you don't like me fine. Don't vote for me whatevs, man. I'll do the job. I'm here to do the job. I'm not gonna kiss your butt and the story. That was a great exchange. I just wanted to get that out there. I really really enjoyed it. I thought it was it was perfect the way he remember the two lessons here. Don't accept the faulty premise, the framing of a question often with liberals and the media is not a question. It is a statement. They're looking for African nation to they're waiting for you to answer with. I don't beat my wife. Do not accept the premise of a ridiculous question confront the premise, and you will reframe the context of the debate in such a way that will make the liberals and their media chums uncomfortable that they'll likely move on. Don't do it. Do not accept the premise of their question. All right. A lot happened yesterday with regards to you know, what I wish wanna get into this debate. I I had yesterday before I jump into Baker James Baker, the FBI lawyer, and why Brennan is now in a world of trouble. I had a debate last night with Leslie Marshall on FOX, I do a lot of the base of FOX was on the Hannity show of you missed it. I strongly encourage you to check it out. I don't have the video, but it doesn't require yet can just summit up in a in a few sentences. Lessees a liberal radio host, and Leslie she's she's friendly. But she she's she's saying she's a liberal and she believes in what she say and she's wrong or else. I think she was wrong. I wouldn't debater. But we went on the last night. It was ironic in a debate. Again, she made my point liberals on immigration have become so locked into their own talking points show that they don't realize that while making these these focus group tested talking points and spouting them on the year. They're actually making conservative arguments not liberal ones. See that's the. Problem with being a liberal often. It doesn't require you to think outside the box liberals know what they're saying is wrong. Most of the time believe this. They know what they're saying is wrong. So they have to rely on others for obvious scale and talking points that will get people off the core issue. She tried this twice last night. With me the debate on immigration. I'm bringing this up to you not to celebrate the debate. But because I expect you'll see the same thing and your debates with your liberal friends or or some Republicans who've lost their way to I the bait they put it the first debate point focused group tested talking point they put out a debate which Leslie. Level against me. Yesterday was. While most of the drugs in the United States, enter via ports of entry in other words legal border crossing. So there's really no need to build a wall because it's only going to stop a smaller percentage of the drugs that would enter that way. In other words, most of the drugs come in via truck or car to legal ports of entry. You know? They don't get. They don't get inspected or whatever it may be their smuggled in folks, this is an absurd argument. I brought up a very common sense reply to this that you should bring up all your liberal friends. So let me be clear on this show. So because there's a burglary problem in the neighborhood, we should ignore the drug problem on the other corner. No, no, there's a Pergola reprogram. Yeah. They're separate problems to ports of entry smuggling problem as a separate problem with a separate solution. More inspectors Joe drug dogs Ray technologies for trucks. There are other ways to solve the ports of entry drug smuggling problem into the United States that don't involve a wall. Why would you not put a wall at a port of entry because it's a port of entry. It's the door. It's how you. Enter the United States requires a different set of solutions. Why is this complicated? Why is this complicated to figure out a lot of people come into the country and stay on visa overstays? Okay. At least we know who they are. These are people who are vetted for their visa before they come in. At least we have an identity on them. That's a separate set of solutions. More ice officers better case tracking people overstay their visas that is a separate set of solutions. You have a car burglary. Of course, she's me a car theft problem in a neighborhood the set of solutions for car theft, dummy cars auto crime task force is entirely different than the set of solutions for a drug problem. In a neighborhood is liberals says this hard to understand listen, I don't wanna make personal but these people because I off the air. I I liked him. And I don't want to be like liberals are with us. They make everything emotional breathable. Yeah. But Joe is this hard to figure out because drugs come in at ports of entry. Does a separate set of solutions with a separate set of characteristics for the crime? Doesn't mean you do nothing about non ports of entry illegal crossings into the United States between ports of entry. What part of this is hard to understand. I know I genuinely confused like are you assuming we're all stupid like all this problem ports about. Okay. Let's solve that. And then while we're at it, though, we can also fix the other problem between ports of entry. But it was the second point she made that I hear a lot every pretty much all of my liberal people. I associate with the time I don't mean associated with like, we hang out. I mean associated with debates on FOX, and I see on Twitter in back and forth show. They use this other arguments. Well, I drugs poor venture. Okay. That's a separate problem. But the second point is walls don't work they can use ladders. They can tunnel underneath them. I came out on the saints unless you just made our point. Why would you need a tunnel? Joe? The medicine. I'm not messing with you. All right. This is a serious question. Joe if you're in a legal human smuggler smuggling people into the country, why would you construct a tunnel? Dan. I believe that I construct a tunnel to get under a wall. Thank you. Joe w another this is not a trick. Don't tell me if you are walking across an area with no wall. In other words, there's the United States, here's Mexico. Well, where's the line? I don't know. There's no wall here. What you build a tunnel. I think if it's not a trick careful surveilled not tunnel, Dan. No, no, no, why not build a puddle. Why are you not building tunnel where there's no wall, Dan? You are something you devil. There's no wall there. I brother. Listen, I'm not messing with you. I'm just trying to show by these ridiculous. Dump alevi. I get it. You're probably like why are you wasting our time with these dumb questions because they're dumb that's building. This is the liberal. This was her argument last night that if you build a wall ever require human smugglers to construct a complicated tunnel to get people, and I said to her well. Why would they build a tunnel because there's a wall? And I said, yes, that's the purpose of an obstruction. That's what obstructions do. That's what physical barriers do when the secret service when I adore in my tie puts up a wall bike rack fencing pipe and drape an artificial wall. We don't put up the wall, assuming the wall in and of itself it's gonna stop every single person for trying to come in. You put an agent behind the wall. You put some surveillance on the wall, you reinforce the wall. You put a vibration mechanism on wall tech detective someone's trying to climate when we put up an artificial fence. I mean, a real fence, but it was constructed device around the Olympic village when I was in agent that the Salt Lake City Olympics, we add vibration, detectors cameras. No one was suggesting it was going to stop every single person every single time. The suggestion was the wall is a passive security measure it conjunction with other active security measures like survey. Silence. Would stop ninety nine point nine nine percent of the people in the other problems would have to be dealt with as that's what obstructions do you citing that you need a ladder or a tunnel to get around. It makes our point not yours. Why do you need a ladder because there's a wall there? Thanks. Thank you. We built the tunnel. Okay. Yeah. Thanks because there's a wall there there. There's a tunnel maker. It's funny. Like these idiots at media matters. They they piled on this. And it was great. Because it made my point. I said when I was on the five a couple of weeks ago that they need a ladder. That's the liberal talking point. They need a ladder to cross the ball. Exactly. That's what obstructions do. They create problems for bad guys looking to commit crimes. I what is there a ladder store at the border? The lips Budgie no says because there are no ladder stores. That's the point. Shoot accurate. You miss that? Make please promote that everywhere. Is there a tunnel? An excavator at the border to reminds me of what when I was. Secret service agent a couple of my friends used to go out to bars in the weekend. And I go out with them. And this one guy had the best thing. I never want to tell anyone who's with the secret service, obviously, so women would ask him. What he did? He'd say. I'm an aqua dozer, I build tunnels underneath the water. And like, wow, that's incredible. Like an aqua those like is there an aqua dozer at is there a tunnel. Hoosier. I mean folks does you have to build the tunnel. Do not understand what obstructions barriers do. Man. This is a juvenile conversation. But Leslie seemingly had no response to that. I'd love rematch. Whether because I really wanted to pin her down on that what's your response to that build without the next line's going to be well what if we put? Dob vibration detectors or some kind of sound technology. We can detect tunnels like the Israelis you Joe, they could get a spaceship and fly over the wall. They could get into intergalactic orbit dropped back down to Cape Canaveral. Exactly, that's the employees. Get got them spring shoes Dan's shooting. They just got on them. They're going to do the what is it the flux capacitor in the back to the future thing and fly back into the past and the future where there wasn't a well. I mean, do you understand how ridiculous argument? Yes. And obstruction is an obstruction. It is. There are no permanent solutions. I used to say to people when I was doing my prior line of work in the security arena. They'd say you guarantee the president's safety is a secret service agents lead is off the record. I'd say I don't guarantee anything. I guarantee the most vibrant well-thought-out security plan. I can put together that will likely stop nine hundred ninety nine thousand out of the out of any possible attack out there out of a million tax, right? All I can guarantee. You is a overwhelming majority will be stopped the rest God forbid, there is a determined adversary who at all costs is trying to get in there. What we trained for an assault on principle exercises is God forbid our best efforts fail not because of lack of trying or lack of assets. But because the other side is absolutely determined to trade their lives for hours all I can opus at the tactics we train on endlessly. And these assault on principle, exercise and these evacuation exercises work. Stop pretending. We live in a utopia. You could tell the tunnel you could build a spaceship, you could do James and the giant beanstalk and grow up in stock and hop over the wall, that's the point. Man that you missed that. All right. I got some other stack show I got him. But it was a great debate. If you can find it check it out, it, it's I don't record my stuff on on FOX. Sorry. I just don't have the capability right now. We're so busy with video and other stuff. So all right today show also brought to you by buddies at hair club. 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There are a number of behind the scenes legal things happening to people in the three letter agencies as I have predicted and stated repeatedly over and over in public speeches, viral speeches. I've given I get the question all the time. What do you think is going to happen to the players in this spy gate disaster that spied on Donald Trump clearly spied on John Donald Trump and used a faulty means to do. So while he was both president is we learned in the earlier shows this week and presidential candidate. And my answer has been consistent that the three letter agency people the CIA and the FBI folks, I believe her in a world of trouble. They're in a world of trouble because they created a paper trail, I can't say this enough. Whether it was the information used to spy on Donald Trump that has to go to a verification procedure that verification procedure was obviously. Blown up because the information used to spy, Donald Trump, notably. The dossier wasn't verified so the verification procedure clearly failed, but there's paperwork there. There are three o two's chose. Well. Three, oh, two's, FBI summaries of interviews. I addressed earlier in the week. How the FBI was using a faulty source Christopher Steele. When they fired him. They went back to him. And they use the conduit DOJ to go back to a fired source there were FBI summaries generated from that the paperwork is there. That's why I have repeatedly said that three letter agency people involved are in a world of trouble. That's where the whole take east line came from a member as an take it east. There is going to be some serious penalties. I believe Brennan's in a world of trouble too. But I'll get to that the second. Finally, we're starting to see some of these penalties come to fruition here. James Baker who was a heavy FBI lawyer with some heavy influence and headquarters he was a higher up in the management division. Baker is intimately involved in this entire spying operation on Donald Trump. The crossfire hurricane case in the investigation at the Donald Trump, obviously based on false intelligence right now. Now, we know that the dossier. Apparently Baker is under criminal investigation. How do we know this because a letter from Jim Jordan as made it into the public space where they talk about the actual investigation being run at one of our United States attorney districts in Connecticut, I believe the USA assistant United States attorney. That's a federal jargon for the tourneys at work for the government to prosecute people. A USA's I believe the US as a guy name Dartmouth. Folks, these are just the investigations we know about we already know Andy McCabe, the number two at the FBI Joe is under federal investigation. We know there's been a grand jury panel looking at McCabe, we now know bakers under criminal investigation. Ladies and gentlemen. I don't think they are the only ones I let me tell you what I'm not telling you. I I'm not telling you we shouldn't be concerned. I'm not telling you that this isn't happening at an unnecessarily slow in glacial pace. I'm not telling you that everyone is going to go down and all his good, and peaches and cream and hunky Dory. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying there are some things happening, thankfully. And as I said yesterday, it is time for people to wear the handcuffs, you want to know what it feels like to weaponize. Your position us use an abuser. FBI position to spy on American citizens because you think you're somehow above the water better than the rest of us. You'll find out what the law feels like. And it doesn't feel good witne ice cold bracelets on your wrist as you're getting perp walked. Not only do not belong in the FBI. If you were going to abuse your power you belong in a federal prison. These people are under investigation. Read our report upon Gino dot com. It's in the show notes today. Please subscribe to my Email list. If you haven't I put together all of these articles for you in one spot. So you can read them all for yourself. It's important. Please read it. There are things happening right now Baker is in a world of trouble. Now, what do I think he's in a world of trouble for folks, I been discussing this earlier in the week, and I'm trying to take the case out to about thirty thousand feet because it's important. What's important is there were felony leaks to the media guys? Ladies we have been lost in the wonkery, which is good. My book, the spy gate book is about the wonkery of it. But this is a simple case I received an Email this morning from a woman. Let me just say, well, I'm getting into this. She said she was listening to Rush Limbaugh yesterday. And a caller called in and said, you know, our eyes are turned back in her head show because the case is too complicated. We don't get it. There's nothing complicated about it. I just want to be really clear on this. The Obama administration. Hated Trump weapon is the I see the intelligence community law enforcement to spy on him to help Hillary win the election, and they got caught it's as simple as that. Now. There are a lot of detail players. Inflicting motives, I get that. And that's you know, I talk about it. Because all of these people had just I just want you to be aware of how it happened. So it doesn't happen again and how they're conflicting motives political motives how we can be on guard for this in the future. But in the Baker case, it's clear what happened bakers higher up in the FBI intimately involved in this case he's clearly under criminal investigation right now. And I believe the criminal investigation is for taking classified information. Whether it was part of an investigation at the Donald Trump, Joe unmasked or wiretap type phone calls on the Trump team in the Obama administration was engaged in and leaking into the media. I already told you this was the case the Obama team spied on the Trump team. They leaked information. They gathered by their weaponized using weaponized government assets and leaked it to the media to instill a narrative that Donald Trump. Was a bad guy. So the what would happen especially council would get appointed to investigate Trump. Keep the heat off the media. It is no more complicated than that Baker is likely a significant part of that they are talking about potential felony leaks of information from the FBI to the media. And from what I'm hearing from a number of different people Baker may be knee deep in this this leak operation now moving on quick Brennan Brennan's in a world of trouble to folks, I keep telling you that Brennan has insisted repeatedly that his contact with the dossier was light. And it was part of Joe, quote, a corpus of of intelligence they had. In other words, the dossier. Didn't drive any of this Brennan has been running away from the dossier for a long time. Why Joe not a trick questions? The dossier a hoax or not the dossier is out. So Brennan who thinks he's gonna smoke us all up here. Brandon figures he can run from it. And they'll be no accountability. It was just part of a corpus of Intel in other words, small sliver of what we did. But Brennan's in a world of trouble. Why he's in a world of trouble because as Devon Nunez repeatedly said, and I keep employing my newness translator. So you get with the Lincoln and odd, but he's really telling ever newness Republican congressman from California's been all over this case has repeatedly told us that no official intelligence was used to initiate the investigation into Donald Trump. In other words, keep it simple. Here comes razor, right? Obama team spied on the Trump team leaked the information to the media to damage the Trump team and get a special counsel later and to spy on the Trump team. They started a false nonsense garbage hoax investigation based on no official Intel at all. Okay. You're like all right. All that's old news. Why are you saying Brennan's in trouble? Now. Boy, let's go back to the Lisa page testimony. We got from the epoch times. Lisa page, the FBI lawyer involved in this case from the beginning Trump case her testimonies leaked the epoch times has it. Here's an unidentified congressional Representative. They leave the name out questioning lethal Lisa page. This is the this is the verbatim here. And I want you to pay close attention keeping in mind. The question you need to ask yourself. Why is Brennan and a lot of trouble? Keep that question your head. As you hear this. Congressional Representative as page. Hey, we have documents that would suggest that in that briefing. The dossier was mentioned to Harry Reid. And then obviously, we're going to have to have conversations. Does that surprise you? That director Brennan would be aware that dossier Lisa page. Yes, sir. Because with all due honesty, if director Brennan, so we got that information from our source, right? The FBI got the information from our source if the CIA had another source of that information, I'm either aware of that north of the provided us if they did. Because the first time we and here's the here's the congressional Representative interrupt, sir. We do know there are multiple sauce for sources. She responds back. I do know that I do know that the information ultimately found its way to a lot of different places folks, they are in a world of trouble. Why is this important? Why does this matter to you? It matters to you. Because the FBI didn't get the information as they claim the dossier information till September. If Brennan if Brennan is already claiming he didn't know about the dossier. But in this August briefing, we'd Harry Reid. Brennan, briefs Harry Reid in August before the F B I has had a chance to vet the dossier. You please tell me you're tracking this timeline. Lisa page is now claiming the FBI didn't get its hands on the dossier until September. August is before September, Brennan briefs Harry Reid. This. Congressional Representative knows Brennan briefed Harry Reid in August about the dossier. They have sources indicating it happen. How is Brennan briefing members of congress and the United States Senate? Briefing them about a dossier? That hasn't even started the verification process in the FBI because they don't get it till September. Now, does Devin Nunes is no official intelligence line. Make sense. In other words, official intelligence, ladies and gentlemen, would have been vetted would have gone through the proper verification procedures before it was used to brief a hack Democrats on the hill. You see where Joe is this making sense? Brennan, talked this stuff that was junk and unverified that hadn't even begun the verification process and the FBI because they don't have it yet. And he brought it up to the hill to start an investigation based on completely unverified. Unofficial garbage as the CIA director. Do you? See what trouble? This guy's in. John Brennan needs to be fully investigated and held accountable fully investigated, whether it's another special council, whether it's a dedicated United States attorney John Brennan should be given. No mercy on this legally. I am convinced. John Brennan is John Brennan is an accomplice in this entire thing that brought his name up from the beginning. I he lied about the dossier. Now, we know we lied about it because he briefed Harry Reid on it. He briefed Harry Reid on it before the FBI even had a chance to get their whole get their hands on it. And it was clearly do unofficial channels because it bypassed the lower levels of the Central Intelligence Agency and other Intel agencies why because if it made it up the ranks it would have been exposed as a political garbage. It was and Brennan couldn't have that he needed to take the political garbage right to the top go to Harry Reid who had pressured the FBI to start investigation. Listen to me Brennan is in a world of trouble a world of trouble right now. All right. Let's refer another great company. Folks. Listen, what's the two most important things when it comes to firearm ownership that matter to you, obviously safety number one in proficiency number. 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I mean, she literally wants things that would diminish your freedom. Right. Your money your right to protect yourself seems to be very focused on identity, politics and effort to squelch any kind of opposition to her. This is not this isn't a joke and dismissing miss Cortes out of hand is extremely extremely dangerous. She is very charismatic on Twitter. She has learned to manipulate the platform. She's done some expert level trolling on Twitter. And she has a rather large following us ignoring her and pretending. This is all going to go away is is. So ridiculous that we will be it was a massive face palm. Don't do it. Having said that with miss Cortez. I choose to pick pick my fights with her because literally every day something new comes out, and you have to be careful or else it just looks like you're the one wasting your energy, so miss Cortez. Put out a tweet attacking former governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin Walker who tried to make a point about Alexandria case you Cortez's call for seventy percent marginal tax rate. So she, of course, in her rather, you know, typically condescending tone on Twitter, she says, well, let me explain to you marginal tax rates as if anybody needs Alexandria case, yo Cortez to explain economics. When she doesn't seem to understand that the Pentagon budget is not twenty trillion dollars. But that's a whole other issue. If you're going to claim the intellectual high ground at least try to stand on it. I. She is still trolling people over this tax rate. Ladies and gentlemen, the seventy percent just so you understand what marginal tax rate is. Because I don't know if miss Cortez thinks you are stupid or she I don't get her approach this. But she's trying to use the marginal tax rate. As a way to confuse people into what she what she's what she's trying to implement here. Here's how marginal tax rates work what she's arguing for is a seventy percent tax rate over a certain income level. I believe or less suggestion was ten million dollars. That means folks is to keep it simple say you had to March. We don't have to we have more than but say you had to marginal tax rates. One is say thirty percent for all income, you make up the ten million dollars, which is the overwhelming majority that country if Jodi you make ten million a year. No, no, do I I know, you know, relatively my now. No, I know I'm not even close to that. Okay. But I promise you, it ain't no ten million a year. So the most of the country's tax rates would be thirty percent when she is arguing is for a seventy percent marginal tax rate that this is where it's important only kicks in at ten million dollars plus a year. In other words, it would not affect any amount of money. Even if you make fifty million a year that you've made between zero and ten million. I want to be clear on this because she relies on a lot of economic ignorance to get you to believe what's not true. Could be true. The reason she's prefers to use a marginal tax rate is a talking point is because Joe threes, and I started off the segment the way I did. She believes the fact that it wouldn't affect the overwhelming majority of Americans that she can get public support because hey, it's not going to me. It's just going to screw people who may ten million or more, right? The problem is and I'll give you some numbers in a second her entire basis for this economic basis for this is not sense and based on garbage talking points. Joe's like, wink Martindale. Now just to be clear on this, though, even say you made eleven million dollars. You would pay thirty percent tax rate on every dollar you made from zero to ten million. You would only pay that seventy percent rate on a million bucks. Well, where's the million dollars? Come from. It comes from the million made over ten million. If you make eleven million dollars per year, you would only pay that seventy percent right now a lot of people even some middle class. You know, maybe rhino Republicans are like well that doesn't sound so bad. You know, it's only going to affect them on on the dollars make over ten million even even multibillionaires then what's the problem? They should pay seventy percent tax rate. Well, the first problem is we don't know the government's swat and the government can't spend money better than you can as Milton Friedman said repeatedly, I can't use this example, enough of the four ways to spend money the government taking money and spending it on other people is the worst and most inefficient way possible. We don't give the government extra money is conservatives because government, generally sucks spending money. That's why because neither of equality matter. When you spend money on yourself, cost matters and quality matters. You're buying stuff for yourself the cost of it matters to policy matters when you spend money on other people to cost matters. But the quality doesn't matter you're buying something for someone else to quality. Who cares you're buying it from someone else when other people spend other people's money on themselves cost doesn't matter? You're buying a hotel room for yourself with other people's money, the quality at least matters though, you want a good hotel room at least in incentivized the hotel to clean hotel room. You're paying for a hotel room which owes money, but what's government other people spending other people's money on other people? Neither cost or quality matter because it's not your product. You're buying it for other people and cost as a matter because you're spending other people's money out case, you Cortez doesn't seem to understand basic economics here. That's the reason. We don't give the government extra money when we don't have to. And by the way, libs if you want to pay the seventy percent marginal tax rate, go right ahead. It's voluntary pay it lead. By example, you big phony hypocrites fronts. You wanna pay seventy percent go give seventy percent of your money to the government lead? By example, you big phonies lead, by example, there are tens of millions of liberals in the country. You want to show us? What government means to you lead? By example, everyone signed a petition commit to a seventy percent tax rate. Give all your money, the government and show us conservatives what it really means to you. But you won't because you're big frauds? Your hypocrites, you've always been hypocrites. Your ideologues. And you don't stand for darn thing. Donate your salary miss Cortes, step up. Donate your salary. I'm not how to get my money to the government. We just made a nice donation to charity on behalf of a scholarship program for struggling kids because I know the school's going to do the right thing with it. You know, what I know the government's going to do it it flushed darn money down the toilet bowl. That's what they're going to do it. That's why don't give them a dime. You want to give them a dime. Step up. Step up, Representative Cortez. Step up, donate. You shosha donate seventy percent of your salary. You think the government can spend it better than you can? And they've overcome the cost and quality problem. Step up lead from the front. You won't you won't do. I dare you to do it. Go ahead. So you do I don't wanna do it. The government stakes. They can't spend a dime of my money outside of our military and courts, I don't cover. I don't oh them squat government bureaucrat. I'm going to give you my I give you my money. I work for it. You've you've you've spent this into a base of debt your programs, stick they fail everywhere. You try them that's supposed to give you my money. I'm not I'm not a hypocrite giving you anything I'll give it to the local school. My local government. At least I have some accountability step up give seventy percent of your money. Well, she turned a lot today. Joe? The tax round did a study on this Cortes ridiculous economically absurd. Outrageous, non fact-based seventy percent marginal tax rate on ten million dollars and above. And I quote from the tax foundation. The Wall Street Journal piece today the best case scenario Joe a seventy percent rate. This is the best case scenario would raise less than three hundred billion in revenue over ten years, which is less than half of the seven hundred billion that has been cited in press reports because the press hacks. Progressives are eager to put a price tag on their new green new deal, which includes universal jobs guarantees and other proposals. But you can bet that reading the economy of carbon which is part of their green new deal will cost into the trillions of dollars. So point number one, a best case scenario, you're looking at thirty billion a year three hundred billion over ten years, which isn't even a fraction of the free air quotes college free jobs benefit to everybody. You're all going to get jobs, according to miss Cortez decarbonising our economy, which will put millions of you at work and raise your gas prices through the roof. She isn't even have a sliver of the money to pay for this with a ridiculous ridiculous. Non fact-based seventy percent marginal tax rate. Now, here's where it gets even worse when the tax foundation authors dynamically, they when they did the dynamic scoring Joe, which is they actually considered the effects on behavior and incentives. They found that seventy percent top rate on all on all income with lose the government sixty three point five billion over ten years. Brilliant plan why it would disincentivize people from investing. It would suck money out of the economy. It would turn money over to government bureaucrats. You don't care about cost and quality ever. Folks. This is an absurd. Outrageous proposal us ignoring it, please ignore this at your own peril. Do not diminish Representative Cortez's influence out there. It is real her stuff. However is nonsensical borderline outrageous and worst case scenario, potentially catastrophic. These are economically destructive programs not based in a scintilla of reality. And based on miss Cortez's pipe dreams about what she thinks her outrageous proposals going to do despite the fact that it's going to do the exact opposite. It's going to destroy any economic viability your future, you and your kids have. And keep in mind. She won't do it herself step up. Do it yourself it. Courage all of your supporters to fork over seventy percent of their money. Do it. By the way. One more quick note from this piece they say seventy percent top tax rate, which generate even less revenue if extended the capital gains. Why is that show obvious reasons? If you extend to cap capital gains, meaning selling your stocks and paying gains on on the and the game mate paying taxes on the games. You be what are people gonna do? Joe? There's gonna hold their stocks. Yeah. Which would reduce liquidity in the economy, but don't let incentives and basic economics. Get in the way, escort has these outrageous proposals. Effect that she's so condescending to Scott Walker's actually had a legislate as an executive to and I'm not even a big walk van or no Scott Walker. I mean, you know, I don't think if you've never met him, but was just just ridiculous one last story for the day. That's important. Are spoken about battlefield morality. But Trump often remember the show Joe did very well is one of our most listened to shows ever. Actually, the question comes up often amongst the hacks in the media. The never Trump delusional crowd. You know, the the zeros out there. You know, how can conservatives social conservatives and Christian support Donald Trump? The sap is up. You hear the question all the time. I'm sure you've heard it before too. And what I've been forced to explain repeatedly to people is actions and actions matter action when you vote for a politician you vote for action. Do you not? Simple question. When you adopt a dog. Your adopted a dog based on his personality. You wanna dog if it's your household, right? When you vote for a politician you vote for a series of principles, you believe in the preservation of human life, preservation of the right to self protection economic freedom, low taxes. This is what you've oh. For actions matter. And I've said that it's not that conservatives have sidelined any of their principles. And what what by the way, the left sights will look at Donald Trump's behavior of the past. How can you vote for this man because this man is advocated for principles we believe in and you have forced on us, a new morality, and that's battlefield morality. You know, when you're sitting there, and you know in your. You'd liberals in your limousines, and you're talking to your buddies, and you're living the Hollywood lifestyle, you have the luxury given your lifestyle, and the fact that, you know, you're not struggling for food or struggling for a job. You have the luxury of worrying about things that other people who are struggling to get ahead. Don't you know? I heard an interesting line on econ talk, which is a podcast. I listen to Russ Roberts. There was a great Lonzo. What are the guys who came on? There's talking about how we find that you know in capitalist countries. We can we can invent problems. Sometimes you know, and he was saying. Oh, no food one problem. A lot of food many problems, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You get your show with no food. You have one problem. What's your problem? Joe? Wouldn't it? Where it belongs. You're going to get you're gonna starve the debt. That's your problem. No food one problem staying alive, the problem, and I'm using that term loosely right is not really a problem. Liberal seats for the problem in the United States. We've had been so successful at our free market economy. Generally over the years a lot of food lot. We Hollywood finds new problems the left is now reverse that on conservatives they've made being a conservative and existential threat, and it's gotten us out of this. We don't have to worry about this other stuff and gotten us back some foundational thoughts. Wow. We're in a lot of trouble here, there, squelching, our speech. They're getting us fired from jobs, they're getting bakers fired because they don't wanna make cakes. They're bankrupting people. The liberals are going after people reason I'm bringing this up today. It's not the repeat that show because the little sisters of the poor who sued the Obama administration based on the ObamaCare mandate that they had to. Provide birth control and contraceptives in contrast to the religious police talking about the little sisters of the poor here. Not MS thirteen. They sued the Obama administration and one. There was an accommodation made liberals do not get enough. This is the battlefield mentality morality they've been forced upon us, Pennsylvania, California, other states are going back again and suing the little sisters of the poor. Again, the cases now taken on another. It's gonna probably had back for the supreme court. Even worse, Joe as I have a piece in the show notes today about this please read it in the Washington Examiner. No, what is even asked the little sisters of the poor for contraception. Not got it. In other words, the liberals want to destroy you. Despite the fact that there's a lot of food lot of problems. They found a problem. There problem is they hate the little sisters of the poor. And they can't stand Christians Catholics and social conservatives. So they're going to invent the problem that doesn't exist. The liberals are suing the little sisters of the poor again dragging them into court stopping them from from from enforced from from following their own Christian beliefs. And yet there's no problem. There is no. Oh case of a person working for the little sisters of the poor. That is asked for contraception and not received. None. So this is not every day morality anymore every day morality a lot of food a lot of problems. We're all eating. Everything's great. The economy you start to find new problems. You don't like the tar spot on your driveway. When you starving to death. You don't care about the tar spot in your job Walking Dead time. The liberals are finding new problems and the problem Joe, they're finding is us. You name it. They want our money. Miss court has want seventy percent of your money over a certain amount. They want your kids education. They fight against school choice that every opportunity they insist not only that you buy their crappy government mandated healthcare. But did you go against your religious beliefs and buy a bunch of abortifacient contraceptives as well? They will sue you. If you don't comply if you don't make a cake, they will put you out of business, check Phillips, the bakers learned this the hard way, they will never stop. They have put us on a battlefield. We didn't want to be on. We wanted to live peacefully. Coexist with them in a battle of ideas that did not impact our big all rights, the standard defacto default response for the first hundred years of the United States was political debates happen. But at this not does not result in the end win or lose politically in the wiping out of the opposition. That is all gone now liberals have committed themselves to wiping us out bankrupting us, taking our money. Our liberty a right to defend ourselves. Our firearms everything. Now, do you understand why people are willing to forego some mistakes and ethical lapses? Donald Trump has had in the past because he fights. Now, he is on this battlefield with us getting actual results making entrench warfare making incremental progress towards stopping this fight by putting the liberals on their on their on their heels. I'm sorry for I don't care anymore. I told you a thousand times in the show I don't care anymore about the man's personal Piccadilly in his prior life before he's president. I don't care. I don't care, and you shouldn't either I care about my money. My job my kids economic freedom their education saving lives in the womb and the ability to defend myself against some mutt. Who breaks into my house at night with a firearm? And once the kill my kids are me because he has access to him in the street, and we don't because we obey the law. That's what I care about. This is a different mentality. When you're on the battlefield and you're in a stressful situation, it's life or death. There's one problem survival. You don't care about the guy next to you. Your battle buddy who texted his girlfriend's six years ago when he was married. You don't care you don't condone it. But you don't care you need him to stay alive. The viability of conservatism and freedom in the future requires Donald Trump to succeed. And that's success. Requires you to get behind them as well. If you believe in these ideas, because he's the only one since Reagan who showed any ability to fight back against the press, the Hollywood, entertainment complex, and academia, this triad of stupid. He is the only one who has shown the ability to fight back against that. And get results. That's why it matters. And if you wanna see even a small indication of how toxic this has got this has gotten. Look at the media's response to Donald Trump putting out fast food for Clemson at the White House fast food, when the general this is what they think you food is always been associated with social status show as it not all you fog, raw she on Fridays, delightful, my steak torture. You fess food look at you fast food, idiots fast food, look at these media jerk wads, Donald Trump serfs fast food. Why that why was that so troublesome? Because this is what they think of your rights, your freedom, everything you are nothing but deplorable not fast food eating idiots. This is exactly what they think of you. And Donald Trump is to one guy standing up and say not today. Not on my watch. I'm fighting back. And I don't care what any of you think. This is the fight right now. Get behind this guy. This is a battlefield mentality that the left is impose upon us. We didn't ask for this fight. They gave it to us. And we're going to give it right back. All right. Thanks for listen, folks. Please share this. If you can we need to get people on the team is fine is not a joke. This is really happening right now. Time to buck up and fightback. I'll see you tomorrow. You just heard the Dan Bongino show. You can also get Dan's podcasts on items or soundcloud and follow Dan on Twitter. Twenty four seven at dbongino.

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Ep. 820 The Panic on the Left Is Palpable

The Dan Bongino Show

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Ep. 820 The Panic on the Left Is Palpable

"The Dan Bongino show gets ready to hear the truth about America with your host, Dan Bongino of the Dan Bongino show producer, Joe, how are you today? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I do your Trump last night. You got this lawyer avocado at the. We'll be talking about avenue ATI in his speech last night Trump, but there's nothing more insult they'd be calling by the is what I loved Trump is the ultimate troll. Abbiati of course, wants to attack Trump. You know, he's the creepy porn lawyer. Everybody knows how filthy his tactics have been. So what does he do? He calls him Alison because we got this guy Abbiati. This before I get to the show, just want to read an Email quick. I got this been going around. I'm not. Doc, seeing anybody might give out any personal information, but an Email that was sent to chef jaw, Chuck Grassley, chief chief counsel show Grassi's the head of the judiciary committee that's been managing the Cavanaugh confirmation process. And I have not discussed this which you Joe before the show, right? No, but this is one of the funniest things you will ever see in your life. It's about Avalon the creepy porn lawyers have ATI began to want to confuse anyway. So avenue CPL rights to Mike Davis, who's working for Chuck Grassley on this committee, the Republican Senator running the committee. He says, Mr. Davis about interviewing this client, stop playing games. If you are the chief counsel, then you need to do your job. Please respond to our requests. This is c. p. l. pre porn lawyer. Spots here spots here folks is my drop level epic. I don't know. My Davis put your by new hero after this one might might Davis chief counsel for nominations Mr. avenue Audie slash Avalon. This having we have already reviewed your clients allegations, we focus on credible allegations, please stop emailing me. Thank you. Paula may actually appreciate that one, I, she hates Mutley, but Paula actually a joy that what is that? Not the greatest Email ever please stop e bailing us. We're focusing on credible allegations. Oh, Mike Davis. I don't know you but good for you. Someone's got to put a stop to see l. poured lawyer. He is just, I mean, in the Barras -ment to the legal. That was cool. That was cool. I just wanted to open up with that because you know, with all this bad news, it's sad that you have gasoline throwers on the fire like Avalon out there. And I know people are turned off sometimes by Trump's tactics. I'm not. I don't care one bit. I'm glad this guy's a warrior. Don't mention Avalon theater thing. You're going to elevate him. I pretty sure these not elevated after last night. I'm pretty confident yet. Sometimes, you know, sometimes a guy who's trying to be a bully needs to get a little bullied himself to figure out what it's like that therefore he stops doing it in the future. So I think I've got the. Last night. Got, I got a rung knocked off that ladder. Who. All right folks. 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So there are no surprises prepare within dot com or eight eight eight four one one eight nine two, six. Prepare with Dan dot com. Go check it out. Okay. Excuse me. Couple of breaking things since yesterday and the cabinet case, and I have some other news I want to get through later John Salomon just to give you a quick update on some spy gate related stories at Solomon broke the other day fascinating. It relates to kind of spy gate in ties the uranium one, which he's, yeah, the government's hiding something there obviously. So conspiracy theory stuff that you're actually hiding stuff, but before we get to that a stunning absolutely. Stunning letter revealed yesterday from Christine Blasi Ford, the accuser of bread cabinet, Christine Blasi Ford's a former boyfriend. The letter, one public. The boyfriend wrote this letter. It made its way into the Senate investigators and folks. I'm starting to see something happening right now. And the reason I started Monday show based on some sourcing, we had. With the narrative shifts. You remember that show on Monday had discussed how the Democrats are now moving away from Brad Kavanagh's, a serial sexual offender to he's a belligerent drunk with a bad temperament who blacks out may not remember this stuff right folks. The reason that was happening, which I said to you on Monday, and now you're starting to see it. Is the sexual assault allegations are entirely collapsing. Now Eddie. Eddie scary at who I follow on Twitter. Had an interesting comment this morning. He said, you know, it's fascinating show that the Democrats initially wanted Cavanaugh treated like a criminal, right? They made serious criminal allegations of a potential sexual assault, right. That's I mean, that's just a fact this would happen yet when cavenaugh tried to defend themselves, they tried to cut off all those avenues by saying, well, this isn't a criminal trial, so we don't need to prove anything all we need to do is make the allegations. So treat it like a crime, but treat his defense like an anomaly you get you get what they did. This is how tactically devious and evil. These Democrats are alleged crime. Joe. I think he robbed the Bank then when Joe goes to defend themselves, what do you mean? I was. I was recording the Dan Bongino podcast. I'm on it's time stamp. This is not a trial, Joe. It's not a criminal trial. Someone said you did it. You are not allowed. To as if folks alleged sexual assault, which is one of the I mean is anybody questioned one of the worst possible degrees of a crime you can commit as if alleging sexual assault precludes anyone from defending themselves? Perfectly illustrated dude, it ran. I got a cat tip eighty on that because it was a great line. They want to allege a crime yet cut off any defense to that crime say, well, we're not treating this like a cry. You just crime not only a crime. One of the sickest most arranged disturbing crimes out. There is sexual assault on a woman, but he's not allowed to defend themselves because the job interview to job Armacost. You robbed the Bank? No, I didn't. It was shut up. Shut your mouth job interview. I have. I was here doing the podcast. No, you weren't shut your mouth. Shut your mouth. Well, what's happening now is the story is entirely collapsing, and the boyfriends letter is absolutely disturbing. Now everything should be open for interpretation and interviews here, but the process here I'm gonna let you in on something here is now starting to make sense. Let's go over the boyfriends letter. I, the former boyfriend had Dr Ford here. There are a couple of surgeons in it that are stunning. He says, number one that he dated her for extended period of time, Christine Ford and the fear of flying he has. No, I'm trying to be diplomatic, no reason to believe that at all. Remember Dr. Ford said she couldn't come to DC to testify because she had a fear of flying. Now that's I told you that that the reason they were doing that is because they had to get the hearing push Thursday. So Brad Kavanagh would not be seated for this upcoming supreme court session, which in fact happened. The supreme court is now hearing getting ready to hear these cases hearing these cases and these bread Kavanagh is in fact not there. They are in public session so they got, they won battle number one, I think they're going to lose the war on this, but they won battle number one, which was delay. One of the delay tactics is important because it relates to this was Christine. Ford doesn't wanna fly. She's afraid of flying. She doesn't want to be in confined spaces. The letter from the ex-boyfriend almost completely annihilates that at one point he says, hey, you know, we did a little island topping. Matter of fact, the island hopping we did in Hawaii was not literally hopping. It was flying obviously, and the flying was done in many cases, Joe in very small prop plane. Oh, yeah. Now I don't know about you, but if you've ever been on a property, I did. I went to sandblast island with Jenna Bush wants. When I was a secret service agent, we flew on a prop plane. I'm telling. I thought we were going down. I'm like, I can't believe this is happening. Right? It was one of those prop lanes that you're looking at the engine outside and you see like duct tape flying around on the property. I beat up, obviously exaggerating a bit, but it was an old play. We took a prop play to Belize. Oh, then lamb mud airstrip and this thing it was held the loudest things ever right? Oh my gosh, it'll drive you crazy. So she afford with the old boyfriend took these planes. So he basically says the fear of flying. So that was the central tenant over strategy legal team strategy surrounding for her, not to show up in DC before Thursday to delay the seating of Kavanagh, which they won that battle because she didn't. So the fear flying, we have a really open question if not dispositive answer. Now, he also says in the letter that he's never heard anything about this fear of close spaces. Ford has alleged multiple times since the incident. She alleges Cavanaugh was involved in that. She has this fear of close spaces. You'd build another door in our house. The the former boyfriend says, there's, there's there's no evidence of this that he's aware of. Matter of fact, he rented hurry six hundred square foot apartment, which is not very big at all is pretty close space. If you ask me. Another thing. He says she. Christine. Ford never mentioned to him ever in the extended period of time that they dated any mention of a sexual assault. No less by Brad Kavanagh. He also mentioned something very, very, very interesting. He mentions a name of a Monica McLean. How this Monica McLean is a friend of Christine, Fords and how Monica McLean was assisted. Let's say, on a way to sum this up on a polygraph examination, she was about to take by Dr Ford who used her psychology training to towel. Monica, McLean how to take the polygraph test. Folks, there are things going on behind the scenes that have been going on for a long time. Now, a lot of this information was known has been known, and it explains some of the questions posed to Christine for during the testimony. One of those questions being when she was on television right before breath, Cavanaugh during that worldwide watched hearing when they asked Dr for during the questioning, have you ever assisted someone or giving them tips on how to take a polygraph? She said, no. After raising her right hand. Folks, the stories falling apart, but this is where it gets fascinating. Joe, I wanna hat tip. The Jeff at the markets work and the Sundance at the conservative tree house for putting together now, some of it is is yet to be tied together. So I'm gonna stay thirty thousand feet until I can. I'm sure of it. It's the only thing for me to do, but some of the leads are very good. And also when I had to Barbara's, well, you know who you are. Why is this Monica McLean. Interesting. So just to track where we are here, the boyfriends letter says, hey, I dated Christine. Ford, Christine. Ford helped assist Monica McLean in taking a polygraph examination. That's important because one of Ford's additional defenses. In addition to our flying story, I'm afraid of close spaces show has been, hey, I should be. I should be given some my stories should be given credence because I took a polygraph and the polygraph didn't show any signs of deception. So it's kind of interesting and material to work case that apparently she spoken to someone in the past about how to assist in getting passed a polygraph examination. Now, here's where it gets really interesting ready. Ford's attorneys, cats and Bromwich. You're freaking out right now. They sent a letter to the to the committee and to the to the FBI investigators. They sent a letter for them all to to read demanding an interview stat, right, right away with Dr Ford. Now why they would need an interview with Ford after providing testimony. Sworn testimony is a bit confusing, but it's not confusing the lawyer's letter. If you understand what's going on right now. So now we know she has this friend, Monica, McLean. Monica, McLean took a polygraph test. She helped assist her in that polygraph test according to the boyfriend. These are the allegations in the letter. Where does Monica McLean live, and he indicates in letter that Monica McLean is a lifetime friend of Christine, four, Joe Monaco McLean according to some public profile information available lives in Rehoboth beach, Delaware area. I know you're familiar at an hour away from Joe. I lived there. I lived close to it at one point nearby Joe. So that's where people in Maryland go. They go to ocean city in Rehoboth. Delaware is right there. It's on the Delmarva peninsula. Where did Christine Ford say? She was when she put together the letter telling her story. Rehoboth beach, Delaware. This case is getting stranger by the moment because Monica McLean least according to some information that appears public at this point appears to have worked somewhere from one thousand nine hundred ninety two to two thousand and sixteen, where does she work the Federal Bureau of investigation the FBI? So just to be clear on what what what the connections here are? So you have a woman who worked at the FBI who is assisted in a polygraph investigation by Dr Ford who claims that her polygraph test about her allegations against cavenaugh or evidence that the story is true because she the politic refer who had some ties to the FBI himself. The politic for said, there were no indications of deception. I've already told you that I believe based on the two questions asked during the polygraph that it was a a nonsense result that I obviously would not stand up in court because polygraphs are not admissible in court. But she goes to a Delaware meets back up again with this lifelong friend, Monica McLean, who would work with the FBI pens, this letter indicating what her allegations are after the rest of the stories entirely collapsing now. Okay. Now here's what's going on, and here's how I tie this up here. So I had had a lay the groundwork for this. Why are the lawyers panicking? Why would they want Christine Ford interviewed again by the FBI? In other words, if you're telling me Dan, that there are inconsistencies in the story, the confined spaces story. The fact that she has a fear of flying with boyfriend says it's not true. The fact that she's she's indicated in our sworn testimony up on the hill. She never helped anyone with a polygraph test. It now appears to boyfriend is contradicting that story. Folks may I suggest to you that the f. b. i. background investigation supplemental that they're doing now is entirely blowing up in their faces. And that's why the Democrats you have that sound ready. Nice little montage. That is why the Democrats that were begging them, begging them for an f. b. i. investigation. And I said this to you week ago, they really did not want an FBI investigation. They wanted to stall. They wanted to stall desperately hoping what. Desperately hoping that cavenaugh did what show which raw his withdrew his name. Sure. That's what they told you that during yesterday's show, they don't want to take a vote. Any vote is a loser for them. If cavenaugh goes down or up, it is a total loser for them. If if cavenaugh wins the vote wins, the confirmation vote gets a seat on the supreme court. They lose if cavenaugh goes down, he will likely be renominated and all of those red state Democrats running for office release their seats, Montana. Jon tester, North Dakota, Heidi Heitkamp, Joe Donnelly in Indiana mansion Claire mccaskill and Missouri, they will all lose their seats and the Democrats know it. Selena Zito has a great piece in the Washington Examiner. Today I have in the show notes about this, how there may be a red tide come into shore, maybe not a red way, but the Blue Wave is looking less and less likely by the day, the longer they hold onto this, are you tracking me folks? It's critical. You understand this, please. If I'm confusing Joe, you gotta stop him. Democrats call is not what they said publicly. The Democrats call was the get cavenaugh to withdraw by dropping nuclear bomb level explosives on them allegations that can never be disproven. Dragging this thing out and and making it a war of attrition. In other words, they really didn't want the FBI investigation. They got because the FBI investigation. Now, again, I'm not suggesting this was four d. chess by flake. By the way, he's still snake flakes playing along with them the whole time that Democrats forget flake. He's he's a loser. He's lost. You got to focus on Collins and Murkowski and mansion right now, the FBI investigation, they got that. They really didn't want may not be turning out too well. Why. And why are the lawyers panicking? Because I think they've interviewed all these people already, including the boyfriend and including Monica McClain who was a former FBI am ploy e who may have a little more on the line here and may not be able to get away with. How do we say. Ab- fierce Gatien's. She may be under a different level of pressure to tell the truth. What I'm getting at folks. I'm sorry to be circuitous, but if you don't understand all the pieces to the puzzle, we're gonna last piece I can make any sense we're the reason for it hasn't been interviewed yet is because the people they are interviewing are probably entirely dismantling her story. And they're waiting to the end either interview her to try to get her on record by the way on the record about her account. What happened a again to see if the story changes for a v six or seven time because affords account is changed multiple times the number of boys, the layout of the house, where it was how she got there. She has remember when the party happened when it happened during chronologically her age, when it happened, Ford stories changed so many times I'm suggesting to you that the reason they haven't interviewed her yet is because the inconsistencies from people, they probably have interviewed the former boyfriend, McLean and others. They're probably putting together a series of bullet points that don't marry up with what they already know about Ford because Ford is already told her story under oath, EPA hill, are you tracking? Are you tracking what I'm saying here? My pen go hate when I was my pen there in a world of trouble folks. That's why the Ford team is panicking. They wanted her Joe to be interviewed. I she had to be interviewed. I why she had she had to be interviewed quickly and immediately to get her story out there. But I don't think they ever took into account that the FBI was going to take down those stories. It was going to end go interview. The people find those people get other sources out there and confirm the story. Now they're the FBI. I'm explaining this bad this part of it. So excuse me, but I want you to understand. We're remember Trump saying this could be a blessing in disguise a couple times yet. Yeah, yeah, I got a hold a pen in my hand, every timing. It's like, you see me on my NRA TV show. I do the same thing. What I'm saying folks and I explain the last part poorly as a former background investigator myself. The f. b. i. background investigators are not going to walk into a Ford interview. Now after they've interviewed everyone else and tell Ford what they said. The way you I'm going to give you a little hint here. All right now I'm not disclosing any foreign secrets or anything like that, like the sensitive information. But one of the ways we learned interrogation and interview school in law enforcement multiple times multiple schools. Matter of fact, I taught it in the secret service academy the interview and interrogation class. You never ever ask a close ended question ever and silence is your best best friend you don't say to Joe, is Joe Armacost your name? Yes or no? What you say to Joe is what is your name? My name is Joe cost would be stunned how many people and identity fraud cases forget that you get Joe Armacost in there and he's pretending under a false idea to be Noel Ramirez and you go, sir. What's your name? Noel Noel Jones always it. Oh, no, no, no, no. It's old Ramirez. Yeah, you. That's a really over sympathy. You never ever ever ask a close ended question. What I'm telling you is they're going to walk in. Silence is your best friend. I've done this a million times. People have this natural inclination to want to talk no matter what. No, they cannot stand silence. They hate it. So you walk in now to Dr Ford. If they interview her again, they may not need to because remember, she's already under oath having given answers that have likely been contradicted by multiple people who said otherwise. You walk in, they wanted her interview. I now now they know they want her interview I because now they know other people have given accounts better likely, contradictory? Oh, so now they walk in and they say. Dr for tell us your story silent sh say nothing. Just let Christine Ford go. You take notes. You sit there. You look up once in a while, let them know you're still listening. You write down everything. I can't tell you how many times in an open ended question people would screw up minor details and because they're not investigators themselves have no idea what they screwed up. Let me just say, you know, I don't. I don't get into the personal stories, but just a very quick one house working counterfeit case. Once I had the counterfeit Bill that was passed in my office, I didn't bring it in. I didn't bring it in for a reason. I'll get to it in a second I left. The Bill was a counterfeit was it must have been one hundred had to be. That's all people counterfeited. Mostly back. Then they had high was a Pino. A printer generated no computer printer east comp. That's when I was doing counterfeit cases. But the secret service I intentionally left the Bill outside. We get the guy in there right. I say to him. So tell me how you got the Bill. Silence he starts talking and talking and talking as he stops talking. There's a tendency for you the event to wanna talk shut up. Don't say anything sh shop. Don't say anything. He keeps calling. He keeps going. He keeps going. Finally, finally after like twenty minutes of this story, he slips up. He goes and you know, I saw it and it was in a corner. Everybody's saying a parking lot. It was all crumpled up. Oh, oh, it was. Was it really? Are you sure about that now? I don't say anything. I let him keep on going, but I take a little note crumpled up in corner. Very nice folks. The Bill was perfectly flat unless he iron that damn Bill, which you know he didn't. That thing was totally made up. So of course, after another hour hour and a half of getting your story down and taking extensive notes, I walked back in with the Bill and go this the Bill, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I guess. I guess that's the Bill looks like it was. No, it was a Bill yet. Fingerprints fingerprints are on it. Right that look crumpled up to you. All right, I did it. Yeah, we know you did it. Thanks, dude. You want to sign this statement. It's this is what you do that they're, they're building up a repertoire and a repository of information before they walk into an interview with her or it's so bad right now, they don't even need it. Now, this is why the Democrats are changing your story on the FBI investigation. They never wanted this. It was a delay tactic, but now that Cavanaugh absolutely refuses to withdraw. They now have to discredit the very same FBI investigation. They want Democrats on the judiciary committee have been totally consistent and asking for, and if investigation, even if it's seven days, that's bad enough, but then to limit the FBI as to the scope and who they're going to question. I wanted to use the word farce. There should be an FBI investigation. We called for an FBI investigation earlier today. This investigation is a scam. It's a sham, and it's a con job week is what center flake was interested in and you can do a lot if you have the whole FBI looking at things in one week, I don't think people should be micromanaging the FBI investigation. She is entitled to the respect of at least thoroughfare investigation. So far and FBI investigation has been. By the White House. I believe that Jeff flake truly wants a real investigation on it. Check the box sham, and that's what the FBI ought to be doing difficult though, because as you said, very well, this deadline is tight and arbitrary. Look, the professionals have no partisan interest in this either way. Talked to the various witnesses. Stayed put handcuffs on. If you excuse in our folks. I mean, it's it's almost comical. They demanded an FBI investigation that was their contingency. By the way, the Democrats who already said they were gonna vote. No, so it didn't matter to them, but you had people like flaky. Flake play right into this. Now we know why demand FBI investigation. They're now trying to thoroughly discredit. The reason is simple. Don't get this out of your head. Keep this in mind the entire time. They didn't want an f. b. i. investigation. They wanted to delay it hoping and praying, Julie, sweat, Nick Avalon, these client miss Ramirez, the other client who now apparently is not talking to the FBI that all of them would come out in avalanche of allegations, unfounded allegations that would get him to withdraw now. Now now now, Montana, listen up out in Montana. I know you're out there. We see our analytics. I know you're out there. I don't know who you are. We just get the being of the state with bubble in it. I have no idea where, but I know you're in Montana because I know what the state looks like. Where did they get the model for this? Joe, I'm going to say a name and you're probably going to remember where I'm going with this. Where did they get the model for this unfounded attacks tidal wave of avalanche them get the nominee to pull out embarrassed Donald Trump. Where'd they get the model for this? You remember Admiral Ronnie, Jackson, the White House. Doctor remember to Johnny test democrat, phony Senator from Montana up for reelection, ladies and gentlemen in Montana. I love you all to death. You are true American patriots out there at a heartland of America. God bless you. I cannot. I don't understand how any of you can with a straight face. Pull the lever for Jon tester, probably v. worst phony in the United States Senate right now and that Saint John tester phony democrat Senator from Montana is the one who crushed the career of a decorated. U s. Military officer Admiral Ronnie Jackson who was nominated for VA secretary by Donald Trump on a bunch of unfounded allegations about what. Oh, out of control, drinking, and partying. Does that sound familiar? Ladies and gentlemen. This book is already been written for before by tactically strategic Democrats who far overstep their boundaries. Now Ronnie Jackson, because he was in the US military at the time and for reasons I'm not about to disclose on the show. I know Ronnie Jackson very well. I gave a passionate defense of Ronnie, Jackson Ronnie's friend of mine and will remain a friend of mine. Ronnie had to Wichita that had not believe me when I tell you it had nothing to do with personal courage Ronnie's one of the bravest most admirable human beings. I know. But the model worked for them and the Democrats learned folks. This is why I said to you yesterday we cannot fold. It will be no surrender. No matter what. Thank you for your emails, Email them again today, Email your congressman Email, your centers. I know the congress doesn't have an advice and consent. I get it, but they talk to these guys Email your centers and call them again, folks. I showed deeply appreciate. I adore everyone that I've been. I've been sending back a lot of, you know, this. I've been responding. I spent probably three or four hours a day. I'm not kidding because I want to do it. You're not. This isn't. I'm not acting like this work. I've been sending a lot of you back the prayer, hands saying, thank you. Thank you. I know a lot of you got my Email. That's me. I read your stories, Email them again. They heat has to be relentless. Depressure cannot stop Montana. Get on this guy in a tidal wave of emails melt this guy's phone lines tester, Jon tester, we know what he did. We know what he did in destroying the career of a man. Who has ten times the dignity of this loser. Jon tester Ronnie Jackson, that Democrats learned from weakness. They sniff out weakness, they proud around for soft points in the armor, and that's where the landscape goes. They push push push until they feel softened boom, right in there. They saw this model Ronnie, Jackson folks, everybody on the hill knows it. The Ronnie Jackson model worked. With Ronnie because it had to because it was a different set of circumstances. Joe, why isn't it working now? Because what has Cavagnaud refused to do? He refuses to back down damn freaking ripe, brother. Brett cavenaugh, God bless this man. Absolutely refuses to back down. And as I said, yesterday, no matter what happens liberals, you better get used to this. You better get used to it. Brad Kavanagh is going on that supreme court. If he goes down now we're pushing them back layer us going on that supreme court. No pudding. There will be none. Nana, he is going on that supreme court. You better start getting used to it. We will not withdraw his name. This is where we draw the line. The Ronnie Jackson story that was their model for this. What's happening now is you see Grassley and you see McConnell in many respects fighting back on this and saying, Nope, we're drawing the line. We're going to investigate this thing. And I'm sorry, although Dr Ford story, if something happened her, she deserves sympathy. Something happened. Or if some you're alleging something happened or by Brett cavenaugh and the evidence does not add up at all. Matter of fact, the evidence is contradictory and the stories not adding up at all, then you're darn right. We're going to start investigating it and do not succumb for a second to liberal pressure tactics. The story is entirely collapsing. That is why you're seeing the f. b. i. background investigation that the Democrats called for being actually pilloried and attacked by the Democrats who asked for the FBI investigation. Yeah, sorry, but all right. I got more in this. The second year was gonna pay for the show. I always appreciate your patience. We have great sponsors to keep the show free one of our greatest Boston, they write their own ads. Listen to this. Listen to this filter by it. They wrote this, listen to it strategically, okay. They put this together. I didn't do this. 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And the reason I'm bringing this up now is not to again repeat the show, but I told you that FBI background of had done them for the secret service. It's a very similar methodology are criminal history background. They're not criminal backgrounds, and there's a very specific reason for that, and I'll read this quote a second. That'll explain it folks when you're doing a background investigation for a secret service applicant or supreme court on nominee. They are done the same way. You ask the nominee for name references. They're going to give you. Of course, the is however many applicants for the secret service at the time you needed three. So of Joe is applying to be an agent. He's going to name, here's three character references. Now, folks, obviously, Joe is going to give three people who say nice things about Joe. He's not gonna give the name of the neighbor. We had a fight with now, here's the catch. Here's how these things work. Yeah, that's not a state secret. It's I think it's pretty obvious and most people have done backgrounds, test one. I'm telling you in order for me to close out my background file and show Armagh Cosby's napkin for the secret service. I have to develop a certain number of unnamed references as well. Sometimes it's three more. Sometimes it's six. Sometimes it's ten. If there's any questions as Joe's character maybe fifteen, how do you do that? We'll very simply you go to the name references and you ask for a name, the references or you go to where he lives and you go to the job and in the job you say, does anybody else remember? Always ask open ended questions. Does anybody else know Joe? You don't say, does this guy know Joe? And then they go. Yeah, Joe data, you know, Molly beg doughnuts a few years ago. Oh, you know what? I could find Molly. Yes. She works down the block at at this deli. You go away to all of a sudden molly's like, hey, man, joke. She'll be tastes him. He was into felonious mope when he was a kid of, oh my gosh. Now. Think about it. If this was a criminal investigation, Joe, I would have to at that point criminally investigate you and potentially Molly for her role in it folks why our backgrounds kept separate in the FBI in a separate unit and not handled like criminal investigations, Joe, I think it's becoming obvious you at this point. I see you shaking your head, but I'll answer the question for you. Who the hell's going to speak. Honestly about a background on an applicant. If they it'd be arrested is go conspirator at a crime. That's why these are criminal backgrounds folks, their criminal history background. It is understood as a component of these background investigations that if you speak openly and honestly about Joe as a secret service age, napkin or bread Kavanagh is a supreme court nominee that what you disclose will not be used against you in a criminal investigation or you're not going to disclose it. Is this hard for people to understand. Is this hard for is this hard for people to get? That's why Joe Biden himself in the Clarence Thomas here he said, audio clip, we played a few shows ago, said, this is not. This is not a criminal of Escott. This is not what we should. This is not conclusive. It's not. It is a character reference. That's all. Here's a quote from the Wall Street Journal that describes this very, very well. Quote, running a background investigation as if it were a criminal one with destroy the FBI's ability to conduct the former. It would cause many Americans to refuse to cooperate. It would cause the bureau to exceed its constitutionally proper Rimet and having the FBI proffer credibility determinations in the context of judicial appointment would politicize the Piero at let me stop the for saying, in other words, the FBI just says, here's what Molly said about Joe. It doesn't say molly's credible or molly's. That's the advice and can central in the Senate. If if if the advice and consent was the FBI's, the f. b. i. would be advising. All they do is do an appropriate law enforcement trained personnel interview. They present the information. There's threat of criminal prosecution than the Senate makes the determination, or in my case in the secret service a board at the secret service that reviews the applica- -bility of the information to the background of the applicant day review Biden if you want it. Yeah. What play Biden again? Why not? Next person refers to an FBI report is being worth anything, obviously, doesn't understand anything. F. b. i. explicitly does not in this or any other case reach a conclusion period period. So judge is no reason why you should know this. The reason why we cannot rely FBI report. You wouldn't like it if we did because it is in con- -clusive. It says in the p. there you go. There's Joe Biden himself. It is. It does not draw conclusions. It puts together a packet of information about the subjects, criminal history, work history, employment history, financial history, and allows a applicant poured or the Senate to determine the feasability of that person for the position that Wall Street Journal wraps up saying if they did otherwise, it was usurp function that property properly belongs to the president and the Senate. That's why the left now is in a panic to discredit this FBI investigation because they're understanding now that the information coming out is completely contradictory to a lot of the information already presented in public record by Dr for them. We wrap up on this point because I internet before and I wanna leave you hanging. A lot of you are asking now fairly enough. Is the FBI information going to lead to a potential perjury prosecution folks? I think. I'm just going to give you my opinion. I sincerely doubt that now. The stuff sweat, Nick said and said to the media and others. If she gave some of these statements which indicates that many of them did some of the other Hughes's under the penalty of perjury and sent those letters to a Senate committee. That's a different investigation. And there may be some civil liability and I'm not suggesting it couldn't happen. In other words, if you knowingly lied about Cavanaugh on the road and I'm not, you should be prosecuted. I tweeted that yesterday. Matter of fact, the tweet one viral. But if you're asking me my opinion about Christine, Ford, if the information turns out was not correct that she swore to intentionally not correct. In other words, lying and if you're asking me because I'm getting a lot of these questions, you think she'll be prosecuted, I'm just giving you my opinion. It may not be what you want to hear, but the answer is no. And the answer is no. For the reason I just told you that as a part of backgrounds, the FBI does not typically make criminal referrals as part of a background of esta Gatien because people would refuse to come. In the future pro work, just giving you my opinion. I know it doesn't sound great, but I deserve the truth. All right. I got a lot more to get to touch the uranium one. But finally, again, I always appreciate your patience today. Show brought to you by buddies brickhouse nutrition. They make the single best performance nutrition supplement. I have ever seen in my life. I see that with no reservations whatsoever, and I have tried almost everything. It's called foundation. It's available brickhouse nutrition dot com. Slash Dan. I'm so sure it works. I leave my personal Email out there for you to review the product. I have yet to this day to receive a negative view of foundation. Matter of fact, the reviews have been over the top positive people, love it, why they love it because it does two things. 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I forget your name. Sorry. It's Rosenstein trust me. It's Rosenstein. I know you keep. I've got this from Sobe. It's Rosenstein I say it wrong all the ties road inside rod Rosenstein who signed the fourth FIS of war and is the current deputy attorney general who is knee deep in the spy gate scandal. He signed the last warrant to spy Donald Trump, which is important because I believe all the skull Tori information already been out. Rosenstein is knee deep in spy gate, but he's also knee deep in the uranium. One scandal scandal, which was. Sale of our uranium to Russian controlled entities, uranium potential, nuclear fuel to Russia. It's a monstrous scandal. I've gone over in prior episodes. Solomon's new news is this there have been multiple foia requests. Freedom of information act request on the details of the uranium scandal and the FBI and others and the DO. Jake continue to hide this stuff. Apparently, there were thirty seven pages or so documents. You could read this and they help at the FBI will not disclose who was the assistant United States attorney, who was the lead government prosecutor on the precursor to the uranium one scandal. Some of the same players were involved. Rod Rosenstein when he was the system when he was the United States attorney for Maryland, I actually worked for when I was in the Baltimore field office in the secret service. Rod Rosenstein was the prosecuting attorney. Now folks, here's where the story gets really, really weird. They had an FBI informant who they paid fifty thousand dollars connected to this company rose a tax. This 10x comedy that was dealing with some of these Russian entities looking to acquire uranium. If you're not following stopping here. Joe again, you're the audience, but this is important. The NF informant in the case, said clear as day on the record. He was a paid informant. This was not some. Guy, they pulled off the street randomly. This was a guy intimately connected with knowledge of the industry was paid by the FBI said that not only were the Russians using their uranium. Leveraged with uranium to try to gain a foothold in the market, but that they were also assisting the Iranians with their nuclear program in this kind of lurid sorted scheme. It was the information was devastating. There were bribery allegations that were kickback allegations. What suspicious the case was dragged out. Was dragged out when it was pled out on a Friday night. There was a brief press release. You would think with the major case like this when they arrested the players involved in the kickbacks trying to gain influence in the US uranium market. It was planned out and nondisclosures were signed. The informant got out of the nondisclosure and has been public, at least some reporters and said, listen, there's a real problem here. Something happened now, here's the problem, and here's what Solomon's kind of leading to in the piece, which I think is he spot on there are two issues with this. If the Iranian one deal that was signed off on by the Obama administration where we unloaded our uranium to Russian control assets, nuclear, fuel to the Russians during the Obama administration. If that happened after this rod Rosenstein lead case where we knew the Russians were helping the Iranians according to the informed with development of nuclear explosive, nuclear explosives. If we knew this, Solomon says you have two problems. The first one is how did you know this an approved, the deal. Hillary Clinton was on that syfy was was was on that board that took the stiffest recommendation, the committee on foreign investment in the United States. Hillary Clinton was one of the approving entities her office on this uranium one deal. Did they know if they knew that the Russians were engaged in a bribery and kickback scheme to acquire portions of uranium and that the Russians were simultaneously helping an enemy, the United States, the Iranians develop nuclear explosives folks. This is a monstrous scandal and the at least Solomon seems to hint that in this thirty seven pages or so with documents that are not out there yet that this may be what they're hiding, the level of information the Obama administration had when they made the deal. But let me give you an alternate scenario that's not much better. If they did not have the information. 'cause remember this evidence in this case from the FBI informant was known way before Obama signed off and his team on the uranium one deal folks. If they didn't know. Why not? Who was hiding this information about the Russians, helping the uranium, helping the the Iranians and trying to acquire our nuclear fuel in the process who was hiding it? What was the motive to hide it folks? We already know former President Clinton's taking trips overseas and took a five hundred thousand dollars. Speaking free from a Russian financial entity involved in the deal. The uranium one story, maybe an older one, but is not a story that doesn't have currency now because remember the same prosecuting attorney involved in the case, Rosenstein is the deputy attorney general. Now running the Muller probe against Donald Trump with some of the with involving the same Russian government. They're alleging right now is involved in a bribery scheme that win the election using information. Basically what I'm getting at folks. Is, is this Muller probe as I've alleged from the start? Nothing more than a smokescreen operation to weaponize the law enforcement intelligence injustice community to keep the attention Donald Trump, no matter what while they hide a larger scandal hiding underneath, which was that either the Obama administration knew the Russians were helping Rainey's and sold them uranium anyway or somebody within the Obama administration hit it. Hit it from people voting on the deal. The syfy est and everybody else. Read the piece folks. It is deeply disturbing. Let me just read you one line from it because I always like to quote them. It's very good. It says it's from John Solomon's piece one former US official who had access to the evidence shared with syfy during the uranium. One deal said this to me and I quote there is definitely material that would be eliminated to the issues that have been raised. Somebody should fight to make it public that somebody could be President Trump who could add these thirty seven pages of now secret documents to his declassification order. He is considering the Russia case, ladies and gentlemen, learn to read. Excuse me. Learn to translate what you just heard there. I've told you from the start, I believe John Solomon understands this entire spy gate operation, right? If your listeners starting, I believe he understands the the from the bird's eye view exactly what went down here. Why would John Solomon just a few days ago, seemingly out of nowhere drop a story about a uranium. One deal that happened years ago when the scandal is almost entirely out of the spotlight. You. Jere, that second paragraph I read, maybe Donald Trump should consider declassifying thirty seven pages surrounding the uranium one deal to really while declassifying the spy gate. THEO again is John hinting something that there may have been an effort here by the by the people who spied on Donald Trump, and we're alleging Russian involvement to pin the Russians on Donald Trump to kind of say, hey, look, the Russians work with Donald Trump, don't pay attention to the Russians work, but Hillary Clinton and Neal bomb administration sh. Solomon doesn't do anything by accident. I told you from episode six, twenty eight on that. The uranium deal people involved in everything from the Benghazi scandal on how to lot the high. It's not a simple conspiracy. The hallmark of conspiracy theory is a simple answer. There's no simple answer here. People ask me all the time. What were the motives for the players involved? My book covers all of this by the way, if you order it. Now Amazon, my book spy gate you tempted sabotage Donald Trump story. Haven't been my publishers understandably like, please promote your book. We're to if you order in an Amazon, how it'll probably get you pretty quickly. It's available for preorder, but it comes out on Tuesday, so it'll probably ship almost immediately. So if you check it out, you'll understand that each player in this had a different mode of what I'm suggesting to you is Solomon is saying that there may be an additional motive by players who were involved in the corrupt uranium. One deal to also get a Muller probe into Donald Trump for Russia. So nobody pays attention to their ties with Russia. Yeah, this guy doesn't do anything by accident. I'm telling you every single article as up the hill seems to tie into a bigger and bigger narrative. I think what he's doing now is trying to piece together the motive narrative. This is why Hillary wanted the Russia's story to get tied to Donald Trump because she had suspicious deals with Russia. This is why Victoria Nulan this is why Cody Shearer. This is why all of these clintonistas Cindy, Sidney Blumenthal. This is why they have done it. There's a narrative forming. Now everybody had something to hide during eight corrupt years of the Obama administration. That's how they pulled off such a massive spying operation on the Trump team. All right man have so much to get to give me a few minutes. Your force is important so much good stuff at it and have another great article in the show notes. I want you to read cover it briefly, but is by Dennis Prager who does a really good job. It's over at the daily signal. And he talks about the left thinking they're living on a higher moral plane. It's a really good piece and it's short, but he explains a pretty quickly and briefly, but in a nice fine way packaged up in a bow why the left can get away with seemingly reprehensible violence and moral living in the moral and intellectual vacuum that the do and that no one in the left actually sees it. I mean, do you find it odd ever that liberals will say, oh, we're the party of fighting inequality and compassion while they're beating the living crap out of you baseball. They don't see that. Well, Prager explains this kind of cognitive dissonance in his piece there how it's this contempt for the middle class. In this, this Uber mentioned mentality that we're on a higher moral plane. If we're liberals, therefore the norm or standard rules of middle-class conduct on apply to us because we're fighting for a higher causing higher caused. The ends justify the means wherever we heard that before. I bring it up not just to get the whacks philosophical, but Dennis Prager is excellent piece. So just be clear what he's saying. These liberals think they live in this higher moral plane. They're fighting for higher moral causes and in that fight for this higher moral. 'cause whatever they have to do to chief that utopian universe of equality everywhere that they can do, whatever they want. So the rules of middle class working America don't apply to them, don't do drugs, don't be people up. Don't do any of that stuff. Don't be hypocrites. That doesn't apply to them. It's important because yesterday we saw an extra violent day by the left we saw congressman, Joe knows very well and the Harris from he's from one Maryland district one and the eastern shore, Maryland on the Delmarva peninsula. They're covering into Bitta Verna park Andy Harris. His team was attacked in their office yesterday up on the hill. We saw Ted Cruz office in Texas get a letter that could have had some kind of poison in it. The left is out of control folks. They think they live on a higher moral plane. They have subscribed this reason to bring this up is they are fully invested in an ends, justify the means mentality. Folks. Keep your head on a swivel. If you believe that there is no moral emergency brake and your behavior. There is nothing to stop you from acquiring power. If you genuinely believe when you look in the mirror you are fighting for some higher moral 'cause folks, these people are dangerous. They are dangerous. Your break your emergency brake is now and always will be the fact that big our God given rights stop you from salting. People stop you from spitting in their faces. The left thinks they're fighting for some higher moral. 'cause where that behaviors justified to achieve an ends, that's not possible at makes these people extremely dangerous. I'm not kidding. Keep your head on a swivel around these people. I have heard multiple stories by friends of mine in the content space. You're name dropping not going to say who they are. Are. But when you sit in green rooms Allott and you run in these circles, you run into a lot of people who have been a costed, some who have been assaulted. It is getting ugly out there. Keep your head on swivel around the radical left. They are dangerous. Read the Prego piece. It's important. Finally, on a lighter note, we haven't done anything in both of the stories have been. So just macabre lately that I feel bad leaving. There's there's it's a long story and I putting it in the show notes hesitantly because it's it's probably close to five, six thousand words. But if you have the time. There's a story in the show today. Joe, you'll get a laugh out of this about a group of scientists who for a while now have been putting out hoax papers to expose victim culture. They've been writing hoc scientific papers to see what you're gonna love. I'll make it quick, but this is super funny. Joe notes piece lays out in detail how they did with the did, but these scientists were having a real issue Joe with the. Volume of papers out there, giving credibility to what they think is like a victim culture, right? How everybody's a victim of some critical theory, right? Patriarchal power knowledge is contrary Caparo thing. So they started writing hoax papers to see how far they could take this to see, hey, could get published a while. She has a piece of this to that one of the pieces. It's a hoax. It's all made up, but what are the papers they managed to get published. They claimed they do this. Obviously, they claim that they sat in dog parks overseas, and they observed dog humping behavior and their observations that they scientifically studied of dogs in dog parks, trying to engage, let's say, other dogs and the. The family friendly that this was evidence and justified. This this rape culture, Ben tally on a on campus campuses, ladies and gentlemen. This story they've study is in tirelessly fabricate. They did not observe, but you have to see the peace some of the the review at the paper mate that this was a published paper. This made it into a scientific journal. One of the reviewers of the peace. If you go to their Twitter account, one of the reviewers, the piece you can see that the the, the hoax. Paper creators laughing about it. One of the reviewers main concerns is. One of the reviewers who reviewed the peace and alleged academic was concerned that the authors of the hoax study. That they respected the dogs privacy while observing their genitals after this. Stunt. You gotta check it out. Read the article little log, but at the scribes, what they did, it exposes the absolute chaos on our Akkad dammit campuses and how science is slowly moving away from science and moving towards advocacy. It's a really good paper. It's a good piece. So check it out. I think you'll enjoy it. All right, folks. Thanks again for tuning in. Really appreciate it. Please. If you haven't yet, please pick up my new book and I will have information for you by the way tomorrow on a live signing. I'll be doing if you wanna sign copy, it'll be alive. Signing later, those. Click the link. I'll sign a book. 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Interview With President Trump (Ep 1241)

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Interview With President Trump (Ep 1241)

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I'm really excited to have back depression. The United States President Donald J trump. Mr President thank you so much for joining us today. It is a great honor. Thank you well thank you. Dan Thank you for all of the great things. You've said you are a warrior. There aren't too many warriors out there. You are one of them top of the list. Thank you Sir. One of our Queens. The Queens Guy Thing. We got sharp knuckles. I posted it on facebook that you were going to be here and the one common I got most of always and I mean this this is you see everyone can see it as public. A lot of the folks who are fans of minor facebook wanted me to extend my gratitude for your leadership during this crisis so I wanted to put that out there I I. I know what you've done. I know how seriously you've taken this from the start. Despite the nonsense from the media morning the media so dishonest. And I can't even you. Tom Believable Showa. Getting through it. We get through it through social media and through some other great friends you know you know that I agree well. There was some breaking news. This morning the defacto Democrat nominee. Joe Biden had to answer questions and finally broke his silence about these terror. Read allegations of sexual assault. Mr President I thought you handled it very statesmanlike yesterday. A hoping that Joe Biden gets due process like any other American we wished that would happen to Republicans unfortunately doesn't because the media but he was asked by Mika Overrun Msnbc about Records University of Delaware records and about a search of misread. 's name those records and in the Senate records to see if there wasn't any information that would help in clearing this up. Should Joe Biden. Release those records given that they've called for everything including your like kindergarten report card from you. I think it's only fair. Well with me you know you. You see what goes with me. I don't even know I'm looking at pictures of people. I never even saw people. I mean this is ridiculous. Every day another one emerges and you know you talk about false accusations so I understand that and I could understand if he said it. I could also understand you. And I watched her and She seems very credible. The mother was so credible. The mother was Great and I guess a friend of hers came out so I I don't know what's his problem but I liked to get in front of it and I just deny it if it's not true you deny it and I have not been a total victim of this nonsense false accusations and They do it they it. The worst victim that I've ever seen before was a very high quality human being read cavenaugh. There's never been Dan a case so vicious as that and they went after him they didn't want to hear it he was totally guilty. According to these Very dishonest people these Did Democrats all cases? There's never been anybody treated in the history of Congress as badly as Brad Kavanagh. And he's an innocent man and I look forward to the day some day. They have to sue these women because every one of them was lying they were lying and I guess three of them have admitted it. The only one that hasn't yet is blazey forward. You look at her testimony. And it's a disgrace. What they put that man through on his family. His wife is an incredible women as daughters For him to have to go through. What he went through is a disgrace and You know look I look at the Double Standard. You look at by. Nobody wants to bring up the subject. So it's and by the way with somebody with far more credibility than any of those four people had with respect to Brett. What do you think he should have? Those records searched for territories name. I mean Biden seemed rather confused this morning when asked on. Msnbc when they said to him well why not just search records for her name the records the public could see he seemed confused and didn't give a straightforward answer. He seemed to duck the question. More than you think. You should just search those records and Biden could clear it up tomorrow. Well is a confused man. You know that I mean you get it because it amazing situation SIS What's going on here is an amazing situation? You WanNa know that. He's confused by not only that questions. Confused by every other question is is but but look He's GonNa have to make his own decision. I'm not going to be telling him what to do. I would say this If they're not true and if the allegations are false allegations for false accusations and He has to get on with it as far as records and all. I have no idea he'd have to make that decision. I can say though that I've been accused. You probably have to the soon as you're famous you get accused and you know. They had for a while at the at the bread cabinet. If you are accused by a woman you are one hundred percent guilty. You ought to resign immediately from the presidency of a major corporation. You are to destroy. They're gonNA destroy. You'll have all that has to be somebody just has to say it was so crazy and you know who the most against this are. Women women are the most against what's happening because as you know they have sons and they have husbands and they have people that can be destroyed with a mere state but so I understand where he is. I understand what he's he's just gotTa do what he's gotTa do but he can deny and then as far as records he added records. It'd be a great thing if he could show records and and you know dispose of it with records. But I've been. I've been falsely accused by people that I'd never even seen. I've never even seen many of these people and some of them. I met him zero interest. Okay Zero and all of a sudden become a wealthy guy. You're famous guy. Then you become president and people just people that you've never seen that you've never heard of make charges so you know. I guess in a way you could say Sticking up for him but mother was very compelling certainly and the girlfriend or the friends who are very compelling and certainly talk more compelling than anything they with respect to Brett cabinet. This is one of the most high quality human beings what they did to that family of. That man is a disgrace very interesting when I decided to Dan when I gave breath the the nod and I said Brad. You're an incredible. Gentlemen. I've long heard he should be under Supreme Court for ten years. I've been hearing about this guy. Brad calved I did now but I've long heard he should be but I gave it to him in the White House. We were sitting. And I said I'm choosing you and I just want to congratulate you and I said Brett. Listen th this is going to go so fast. This is going to so easy. You have the best education possible. You have the great family you have everything the perfect background. We have checked. We have studied you know. Just do this. It's very. I shook his hand and I said good luck breath. Don't worry about a thing. It'll go so easy and what they did to try and destroy that man something that should have taken like no time and what they did to destroy him and his family and they're still trying. The people are psychos so what they did to him and then you look at the double standard but I would just say to Joe Biden. Just go out and fight it. It's it's you know one of those things but I'd say he has far. He's far more convincing than Blasi Ford or the other three. That I believe have already recanted and said it wasn't true. I don't even say you're sticking up five you say you just applying An honest standards honest. Look you gotTa go through it. And he'll probably have others come out he might. He could have others. Come out but With me I can only tell you from my experience. It's incredible people I've ever even saw before. He kissed me on the cheek or he touched my hand when we were saying hello. He touched her. Hand I was never a big handshake or anywhere but I touched to him. It is so crazy and then they make it like they put the picture of the young woman on it. It's a terrible thing. It's a very scary thing and I'm just going to say once again. The biggest opponent of this are women because they have sons they've husbands can happen to anybody with that. Might is going to have to go out and fight his own battles. So Mr President. Moving on the economic damage from this virus has been profound leading one of the great economic recoveries. We've seen after the dreadful eight years of the Barack Obama recovery which wasn't much of a recovery at all. Are you pushing the payroll tax cut? I've heard you publicly mentioned I am I and who is getting in your way. This would be a phenomenal boost to our economy and put money in Americans wallets tomorrow. Who's getting in your way here? So the Democrats don't want it. It would be the easiest the best I've wanted this from the beginning payroll tax. Cut both corporate and the To the person you know because you have a double you have sort of like a double edge on it this would be precise it would be over a period Now I was fine with what we've done because it's you know money getting into the pockets of a lot of people and I think that's good. We want to save our small businesses. I also we're saving large businesses to you know. We bailed out the airline business which you know no fault of theirs all of a sudden you have a you have this scourge coming over and people go from packed planes to nobody flying right so you have to. You can't lose the business that we we help them and got that taken care of and other businesses. Also but no I I think the payroll tax cut is really precision. It's like scalpels Laden and I would like to see that at the same time. I'm I'm in for taking nice easy for a little while because you know the Democrats want to bail out the states. That's what they want. They WANNA bail out there states. That would be New York and California and Illinois primarily and then some others and they're all democratic states. You know our states are doing great Texas Florida many others the Mid West doing incredibly well and I was able to get this at the last part of the negotiation. They wanted to do it in phase one two three. I said No. Let's do that last and I was a little surprised that that went along with it. But at least it puts us in a good negotiating position with these characters. Once consumers are very very dishonest. Guy And I think he's going to kill him when he runs against him in the primaries I do I. I'm not tim. I'm not a big Fan of hers. But she's got a spark he doesn't tend saw him on television last night. And the gotTa Soundbites. We've done an unbelievable job with what we're doing and the testing and the ventilators and everything everything we've done to go every governor's saying they're praising me Huber get says we need more testing you know no matter how much testing I get that. We have six million people tested which is more than any other country in the world. In fact it's more than every other country added up together. We've done more testing and it's a better testing and this guy gets on this stupid show last night I mean how these guys make money whereas Johnny Carson you know whereas Johnny Carson but He gets on this show last night and he starts saying test you to sound bite. We need more testing house trump. Do we need more testing? It's just a soundbite So anyway I think the guy's a loser you know. He only brought one thing back to New York. I look at some of these senators. Some of these southern guys. Frankly I look at Mitch. Look how much he brought to Kentucky? He brought so much to billions and billions of dollars. Humor brought nothing already. Brought Salt. Salt is right so as a disaster and he never calls being said. Hey could we do something about it? I would have listened but I never got a call from Schumer so New York Got Salt Soda Council which is interesting. No Mr President because the salt limitations have. Actually you know hurt. Some people who are who are paying mortgages on big enormous houses the wealthy and the Democrats entire talking point has been taxed the rich more but when it came to salt they want to tax the rich less their total frauds but I wanted to follow up on something you said Mr President on my show. I get a lot of feedback. Email twitter facebook social media and the state potential bailout is grotesquely unpopular. And for a number of reasons. First you've already. Mr President signed a bill. That's provided billions of dollars to the states that media conveniently forgets that secondly whatever the states have asked of you even Democrat. State's governor Cuomo Governor Newsom. No one has come out said. The president refused to give it. They said the opposite that you've come forward with the comfort. The javits center the testing the money. The bailouts will be a disaster. Where do you stand on that right now? Considering some states fiscally manage themselves well and places like New York. Mr President have buried themselves for years in unnecessary debt. But you know I spoke with the Governor of South Dakota yesterday and she was saying how they're balanced budget balanced to have a constitutional amendment. Where there but it has to be balanced and they charge almost no tax and their primary taxes sales tax. You know. We're getting them at the monument. We're getting them. I get fireworks for twenty years or something. It hasn't been allowed for environmental reasons. You believe that when it's all stone so I'm trying to say where's the environmental reason. Anyway I got it approved. So I'M GONNA go there in July third and they're gonNA have the big fireworks South Dakota Christie and she was telling me about. Yeah they don't they have virtually no debt and many many of the governors It's Republicans or Republican Stuff and the states is so well run. This is a Democrat point. This is by far their biggest point. And I'm in no rush. I'll be honest with you. I mean if the if they do they're going to have to give us a lot and I hope you're proud of me but I was able to put that in phase for as opposed to phase one two and three and so they're they're ask is that and the other thing that we're talking about is infrastructure but you know they want infrastructure but I don't want it to be a green new deal infrastructure. I don't WanNa be talking about the carbon footprint and then Obama flies to Hawaii to play golf in his plane when he was president and then talks about how he lands that he starts giving a speech on the carbon footprint but he flies thousands of miles to Hawaii in air force. One seven forty seven. The whole thing is no thing is crazy. No I don't Wanna be talking windmills windmills. I ended that tax. We've subsidy the all that stuff. It's it's amazingly now you look at what's going on with the prices of oil and gas. We're getting it for practically free and you'll be proud to know that I'm filling up the strategic reserve for with oil that's costing risks like nothing. Nothing little lucky in that but we take you have to take advantage of your luck you know because of the prices. I'm filling up the strategic reserve. Which a lot of empty space that it and we're filling it up And you know happily doing so. Mr President one question. I get often from my audiences the national debt. Soon Nami coming away now. Obviously the virus. No one saw this coming. Despite media faking a head fake and everyone pretending they were the ones who saw it coming? When they were saying the opposite by the way and calling you Zena Fo- for the travel ban which save hundreds of thousands of lives potentially but that's a whole other topic right at the National Debt. Tsunami coming our way is a real problem the entitlements we just don't have the money if reelected and. I'm hoping that happens. I don't think my where my political stripes on my sleeve. Do you have a plan for that? It really seriously do you up at night and now this year right and it bothers me too but we're going to get out of it and I'll tell you number one remember this. We're barring fairly long term and long term money at zero okay. That's good. That's the big difference between zero and five percent and you know my biggest fear was always that but we have. We're putting in were replacing debt with really long term. Good debt zero with beautiful thing. Our dollar is very strong. The good news is that we have a strong dollar. Okay the bad news is it's harder to do business overseas with other currencies where they're falling but our currency is really powerful now. It's really strong. We're going to be able to do things that are going to be amazing at. We're keeping it strong. We're going to be and what that means is we're oversubscribed every time we go out if we WANNA do highways and if we want to do whatever we want to do we're paying zero and we're over subscribed many times what we ask for with other places as you know. Don't have such an easy time. Getting money We will year five. We will start doing things that will be magic and importantly and by the way you'll always have your social security. We're not playing that game. The Democrats will never they will ruin social security. Because whether it's Medicare for all any of their plans are ruined social security by the way you're GONNA lose your fifth. You'RE GONNA lose. In in my opinion you take you take your second amendment. You take other amendments but let's take your Second Amendment you can lose your second amendment. You'RE GONNA lose gun rights. You know that if they get in you'll be losing gun rights a hundred percent. They WANNA. It's amazing shift that they've taken on that so you're going to lose that you're gonNA lose so much. I think it's GonNa be a very interesting election. I think that the last election dad was so important and I always said that's GonNa that's the most important but we need the four more years so all this stuff seeds you know. We've done so much including tax cuts. They want to raise taxes. They want to do everything the opposite. We're GONNA have tremendous growth. I think what's happening. I think you're going to have a transition we're starting that transition soon. That'll be the third quarter. The fourth quarter is GONNA be incredible and next year I think is going to be comparable to any year. We've had and we'll also be very strong on the bottom line now with all of this. I have to say the Democrats every time we want to do. Something on the military for our defense to Democrats up wants something that's terrible. You understand like not a thing that you would not a thing you or your wife would approve that I can tell you and you have to go along with it because otherwise you're not gonna get the votes you know. We need their votes where people don't understand we may have majority like in the Senate but it's fifty three forty seven small majority and and we may have when we had it in the house. It was what you need Democrat votes and in order to get that you have to give away things like the last time Kennedy Center. Twenty five million dollars. It's CR- I'm I'm a fan of the Kennedy Center but I don't want to Co visit but you know they demand Kennedy Center. They demanded things that were terrible. But the big pictures we had to get what we had to get for the workers and for the small company. So you're gonNA see incredible things happening in year five and six. You're going to be very happy. Okay we're GONNA have a great. I think we'll have a great next year. It's gotta be incorrect. As I've told you personally I love your line. We will build it again. That's an optimal we're gonNA build it again then goosebumps when you said that. I'm not kidding. You can get abused goosebumps. I can give anybody goosebumps. I know this Man Ladies and gentlemen. I know him very well man. He's a great guy he's a sweeter more questions. Everyone thinks he's a sweetheart. I'm a softy. I'm a big teddy bear yesterday. You'd mentioned in the press conference and of course the media as they always do misconstrued. Your comments you had suggested that I'm not asking you to get into the intelligence at all but you would suggest that you had seen some evidence that the virus came from the Wuhan lab not that it was created in the Wuhan Lab which some media folks I was GonNa say something different but of respect for the office I will not said that I should say that you wish suggesting it was created in the Wuhan but you did not say Can you just comment on that please? So we can correct ninety out of the question was a straightforward question and. I also really said that we'll be talking to you about it at a later date when we really know some good hard facts. But I've seen a lot of things I've seen it. I've seen things I've I've seen probably every version of most of the things you've heard and some of the things you haven't heard you've heard pretty much all of it but we're gonNA find out about it you know. I did an incredible deal. China's been ripping US off for years. Hey who's talked more about China than me? It was one of the between the border you know. Nobody talks to you. Notice to Derrick Mr President. They used to make fun of you on the campaign trail. How often you brought up China and now you notice they flip the script that you were being soft on China. This is bizarre. It's like well in. But but I talked about China's ripping us off. I mean they would take it out from three hundred billion to five hundred billion dollars a year out of our country of our hides for two years and that is in all fairness sleepy jail. He had no idea he has no clue but Obama and and Joe they rip them off so badly but they also did with previous administrations. I mean this fears until I came along and I've taken in billions and billions of dollars literally a month then. China's never gave us ten cents and now they have and even before the tragedy remember I put tariffs twenty five percent in two hundred and fifty billion and they targeted farmers and took the money a small piece of it. Because it did. I said how much the targets get. Did they get to the farmers get targeted for Dan? Bay said Sir Sonny Perdue. Who's the Secretary of agriculture? Doing a great job they said Sir Two years ago was twelve billion this year. Sixteen billion I said good. We'll take twelve billion and we'll take sixteen billion out of our tariff money. We have a lot. Leftover like tens of millions leftover from China. And we'll give it and I gave twelve billion the year before and they gave a sixteen billion last year. And we're giving nineteen billion this year. Nobody ever did that. And one of the reasons that the other administrations never challenged Jonah. Is They thought that they'd take advantage of I said no? No you'RE GONNA pay tariffs twenty five percent on two hundred and fifty billion that a lot of money plus ten percent on any money over that. So you're GONNA pay tariffs and they did so we've taken in tens of billions of dollars and I've been able to help the farmers who unfairly targeted and you haven't heard any complaints. I'll tell you and you know the farmers love me and I love them but but the thing about the Democrats like as an example. They want open borders. So look how well I've done at the border? That border is sealed except where farmers need people coming through. You know we make it actually easier. We can't kill our hurt. Our farmers you know it's too with people. A certain people coming through but the border is sealed and we built one hundred and seventy miles of wall already and it's moving forward at a rapid rate. Every every week we build two three four more miles. I'll have by early next year. The will be complete. Nobody ever talks about it. You know the Democrats. Don't talk about it because they now know. That was a bad political move. They oppose me on the wall and Dan. I'll say nobody else but me could've gotten that wall. We add the Democrats. I got seven hundred thirty eight million dollars for the military. But they wouldn't give you ten cents for a wall and We're building the wall. One hundred seventy over one hundred one hundred and seventy two miles as of today and in the area where the wall is. Nobody comes in. That wall is a powerful wall that was done. We went to the border patrol and wished they'd give us your ultimate wall because I'll build the ultimate might as well do it right and we built them a war with which is concrete and steel got every aspect in it and it's loaded up with the wall is loaded up with very sensitive equipment and everything else so we have a wall and one hundred seventy miles. It's like it's like a new life for the people on the other side but people can't come through so it's been very good but they don't talk about that anymore and they don't talk about the fact that they want open borders where everyone pours into our country. But we don't allow that Mr President last question for you. So the the recent revelations against General Mike Flynn in American. Patriot are beyond disturbing as a former self. What happened to him as a as an international disgrace and an embarrassment? I personally don't have a lot of faith in director Ray but what can. Fbi Director what can the FBI and DOJ due to ensure? This never happens again. And do you trust director Ray to ENACT REFORMS TO ENSURE INNOCENT? Americans are not targeted. Again with this scheme. Like what happened to General Flynn? It's a disgrace. What happened. General Flynn is. It was a setup from day. One you picked it up in about two hours okay. And by the way the other side knows it a scam but they. It's not to their advantage. You know that if you look at MS DNC and if you look at Fake News CNN. General Flynn today and yet two years ago year and a half ago when he was under persecution not prosecution persecution when they were persecuting him. He made up the whole show and now that they find out. He's totally innocent. Because you look at this and more is coming out. They find out he's innocent. They don't even talk about it. You don't even see a soundbite that the man is innocent It's a disgrace. He's an innocent man and one way or the other he's innocent. Then you know what that means one way or the other. He's innocent but hopefully he can be exonerated fully because after give his white back. They've destroyed him and destroyed his family now ultimately they will look to destroy the Presidency. They would look into destroy a duly elected president. Who beat the hell out of a horrible candidate called Crooked Hillary and now fortunately we have another horrible candidate. Frankly far worse candidate who. I don't even know if he's going to be the candidate to be honest. I don't. I don't know that that's going to happen but you know let's hope so. Let's see what they do. Sleepy Joe and you be asking attorney. General Bar When this is said and done to be to be looking into this and director Ray to make sure that I mean look this stuff came from general bar doing a great job from remember when he was on Laura two weeks ago the whole world got shaken up he just gives a very simple very cool guy actually gets need more answer then. Laura who's great? She goes the she goes on to the next question. Then she goes. Whoa wait. What did you just interest? Goes back because he gave a very strong answer two weeks ago and yet so beautifully and He carries a big stick. He's a strong guy bill. He's doing a great job. I'll tell you what you're going to see. What a good job. He's doing and I let him do it. I don't get involved. Say Bill you have to do what's right. I can get involved. You know in theory. I'm the chief law enforcement I can but I think it's better if I don't and you know so far. I think that but I can get legally. I can get involved. Legally I get headed up but I I am waiting to see what's happening and again. I let the professionals handle it but bill bars eight total professional and I think people are GonNa see things we hope. Lindsay starts with his with his Judiciary Committee I mean. That should get going. That really should get going. He's got so much information you could go on for years the information. He's got that Komi report. Seventy eight pages from Horowitz. Was fantastic report. I have a lot of respect for Horowitz. He did a fantastic job on on that and he's a democrat. He was appointed by Democrat. But he's been very fair. That was a seventy eight page. Kill of call me and McCabe. They they did a report on him and we'll see what happens but bill bar is Daughter very good job and then your decision to fire comey you can borrow. Been that was terrible. What nobody could even believe what they're saying? And the other networks. Don't even any of them. The the big you know the the main networks. Nbc NBC is a is a disgrace NBC. I think is worse than I think. It's more fake comcast. I call them con cast with it. End The disgraceful. They can use free public airwaves and and give fake news all night long and just as much on NBC nightly nightly news. With Lester Holt. He's another beauty Now so much fake news. It's hard to explain to you audience. How fake it is and you know the hard part. You understand this better than anybody. I know it's fake because I'm in it. An audience member sitting out there somebody at one of our citizens sitting out there listening. They don't know it's fake because they have no idea but I I do things that in many cases are so good and they'll make them look so bad and some cases they'll do something wrong. I don't mind okay. Let THEM REPORT IT CORRECTLY. But we do great things and they they Like ventilators everything was vet'll as we had virtually no vent ventilate is a big thing. We now are the king of it. We mobilized this country and now we're giving them to other countries. Where so you don't hear anything about that. They were killing US invent. When I took over the cupboard was bare we didn't have medical supplies and all of the things that we should have had under the Obama Administration. So we did a good job. Don't hear about it but the press is just very dishonest. They're the enemies of the People. The decision to fire. Jim Combs looking better by the day. Also Mr President. I think if I didn't fire him I probably wouldn't be here. He was leading along with others. Excuse me Including people that were above him. And you understand that very well. It's impossible for him to have done it himself. I think Jim Thome is turning out to be a very stupid man to is You take a look at that report. Just anybody reads that seventy eight page report. You'll learn a lot about Jim. Call me but I think he's a dummy his dumb person he got caught trying to overthrow the president of the United States and he should pay a big price for that. Mr President. Thank you so much for your time. It is really an honor for you to come back and join our show here. I really appreciate. Thanks for everything. You're doing getting us through this crisis. Really appreciate your leadership your go get him businessman style. I think it's exactly what we need right now. So thank you sir. I WanNa thank you doing just an incredible job bureau really a voice. Both of us have voice in the Wilderness and There are some of us. And I'll tell you what we're getting between Sean and Laura and plenty of other people. We're getting we're getting the word out and We're getting it out strong and you know the people get it. Dan The people really get it. They they see it and Gallup just came out with a poll where I'm leading Biden and pretty substantially too especially unimportant elements. But you know you don't even they don't put it up and Gallop is no friend of mine believe me. They got the first one wrong and they came out with the poem leading. You never hear that stuff. It's all fake. Make it all up. They they literally they make everything they make so much up. So y just WanNa thank you. You've been a friend of mine in the sense and by the way you've been a friend of mine in the sense that you're honest and you're a pro and therefore you're a friend of the country and thank you very much. Thank you I appreciate. It have a great day thanks again for Daycare Solo by the Thai producer. 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Let's go want to give President Trump. The belt we may have thrown them off a little bit how to take the tie off only out of respect for the office of the presidency. So let's get to story number one today. Unbelievable I don't unbelievable is inaccurate term anymore and I don't like inaccurate terminology. Precision matters talking about the Flynn case. Unfortunately it's totally believable. Just when you thought after yesterday's show it couldn't get worse the FBI now essentially acknowledging in writing a setup and framing of a three star decorated US general in former National Security Advisor. Mike Flynn just when you thought it couldn't get any worse it. Does John Solomon put this out. Yesterday is excellent new website. Just the news. You need to read this article. Be Up in the show notes again. Bongino DOT com slash newsletter. I subscribed to my newsletter. Send you those show notes? The newsletters the same thing every single day. Unbelievable again. This case is getting worse the FBI found quote no derogatory Russia evidence on Flynn. They plan to close the case before leaders intervene. Fbi FBI memos show. The case was to be closed with a defensive briefing before a second interview with Flynn was sought folks so now we have in writing allegedly FBI SAS level employees. Bill price step in his own notes. Who supervise this operation for Jim? Combing we have them writing notes. Well what do we do? What do we do we get them on? The Logan Act logo never successfully charged ever in the history of the United States. Do we charge them on that or do we try to set them up in a perjury trap in writing? Now I'll get to the media and the new hack media narrative of course is the. Fbi does this all the time if they do we need to disband the FBI tomorrow setting people up in perjury traps. That's your new narrative media. Okay you guys run with that. But from the John Solomon piece. Yes shockingly. This case does get worse. They had no derogatory information on. Flynn meaning they could find. He did nothing wrong and they kept it going anywhere from the peace quote evidence withheld for years from Mike. Flynn defense team. Well leave that to the side to it. They held this for Mike. Flynn lawyers showed the FBI found quote no derogatory Russia evidence against the former trump national security adviser and at the counter intelligence agents had recommended closing down the case with the defensive briefing before the Bureau's leadership. Oh you mean like call me. Those guys intervened in January of two thousand seventeen the recommendations to close the case down came sixteen days before president trump took office plans to have Flynn Services National Security Advisor after eight hundred found. No listen to this. Listen to this had found no incriminating evidence by sweeping counterintelligence files and talking confidential human sources the memo. Show so just to be clear where we're going with this the FBI I. With all of their massive powers to surveillance to wiretap computer files databases. They can search intelligence. Fazei can search. They did all of this including what was an obvious. Set up back in two thousand fifteen by Mike Flynn to try to get them in a compromising situation with Svetlana La Cova at dinner the United Kingdom. Despite all of that they could still find nothing. Think about Joe Processes for a minute so they massive powers of the FBI law enforcement bureaucracy and all the tools they had at their disposal. Warren's everything they could find nothing zero on Flynn but instead of closing down the case who intervenes the seventh floor of F. B. I. Headquarters Jim Komi Crew Not Ana. We need to keep this open back to John. Sam because again you can read in the show notes Bongino Dot com slash newsletter subscribe. We won't spend your inbox where the files show. The plan is to provide limited defensive briefing so we can be aware of potential pitfalls with Russians. But then the lead agent larger. Russia case. Peter Stroke intervene to stop the case from being closed and pivoted the discussion towards seeking an interview with Flynn. Remember the interview where they set them up. They show up at the White House and accused of lying. We didn't live in the text messages the FBI text messages to his team. Stroke specifically cited quote the seventh floor of F. B. I. Headquarters where then director James Comey and the deputy director. Andrew McCabe worked as the reason he intervened. Hey if you haven't closed razor. Don't do so yet stroke text on January. Fourth Razor Razor was Mike Flint Codename Crossfire Razor. It is still open and I'm still listed as the case manager is colleague texted back. Was that colleague Roger. I couldn't raise earlier. Please keep it open for now. Stroke texted later. He added seventh floor. Involved Ladies Gentlemen. This is a really a cosmic level disgrace. What happened to this general? It is now clear and evident that the FBI despite having not a Scintilla of evidence that Mike Flynn was involved in anything untoward with the Russians. You read it right there. They were going to close the case they had nothing zero donut. Goose Egg zero filch. Nothing they kept the case open anyway because Jim Komi seventh floor. Fbi Headquarters was interested in one more interview and the notes on why they were doing. That interview are crystal clear. So what do we do? We try to catch him in a lie. We try to hit him with the Logan Act. Remember as I said yesterday and don't ever forget. This spent fifteen years in law enforcement the one thing that distinguishes a sound constitutional republic from Tarango monarchy oligarchy tyrannical despots. All over the world. Is this our law enforcement infrastructure investigate crime in search of the people that committed them? We don't investigate people in search of crimes to charge them with Adas. Exactly what happened to Mike? Flynn and for the media a grotesque fashion to cover this obvious legal abomination this total violation of big. Our God given rights is one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen in my life. I'm embarrassed for them. I really am. I am seriously embarrassed for our media. The seventh floors involve. Why did you keep this case open because you could not allow Mike? Flynn as Andy. Mccarthy so eloquently said last night on Tucker Carlson show on Fox absolutely right Andy. Mccarthy was an assistant United States attorney involved in some high profile prosecutions and he nailed it last night. What did he say he said? Mike Flynn was trained. Intelligence professional these people this cabal of people looking to set up and framed. Mike Flynn needed him out Joe. They needed him out tomorrow because they knew for a fact he was going to be the one to uncover this thing. Yeah they needed him out and they got what they wanted now. People are starting to really reevaluate this. Ladies and gentlemen including the Vice President himself vice-president pence. I hate to use Bloomberg. But in this case it's necessary even their publishing this Bloomberg even the vice president himself now is starting to reevaluate. What Flynn said. Let me give you some quick background on this. So you understand flint in December. Mike Flynn as the incoming. National Security Advisor speaks on the phone number. December's Donald Trump's still the president-elect not the president yet speaks with embassador Kislyak from Russia on that call. They mentioned sanctions some sanctions. The Obama Administration's talking about general. Flynn says listen. Don't sweat the sanctions. I have argued from the start and I will continue to argue now based on some evidence. I have and some conversations. I've had that. Flynn just did not remember the details of the phone call when Flynn is asked. General Flynn about the sanctions by the FBI and the vice president. Mike Flynn doesn't remember and says he doesn't remember the FBI. Of course has the transcript. Because they're monitoring the call. When I believe illicitly they have a transcript of the call and they said to him Joe. Make sure we're following this here. Is the audience referee. If they need them. You did talk about transcripts. We have the call we have the now. They don't show him the transcript before they interview. They don't even warn them about lying to the FBI and they don't have the he has no attorney present and they violate protocol going to the White House. They have the transcript. They could have shown it to him at the beginning of the interview. Why did you need to hear him? Say it you have the transcript. He talked about sanctions because they were setting him up a perjury trap which he fell into because he didn't remember the details of the call. He then talks to the vice. President Vice President asked him. Did you mention sanctions on this? Call with Kislyak Mike. Flynn denies it now. That was the reason for his termination from the White House. Now even the vice president starting to suggest. Hey listen I'm starting to reevaluate this thing. Quote Bloomberg Pence Says Flynn Omission on Russians may have been unintended. Folks I've been arguing this from the start based on solid body of data. I've accumulated I think. Flynn genuinely just forgot. Mike Flynn is a TR- why do I base that on? What do I based on them? I'm not just throwing this out there. Ladies and gentlemen I been in the law enforcement infrastructure the federal government. People aren't stupid at the top. They know how the machinations of the system work. Do you think Mike. Flynn trained intelligence. Officer doesn't know the FBI questioning him about a call. Has the transcript of the call. Why would he lie knowing they can read it right there? It doesn't make sense. He was on vacation in the Dominican when the call came over people on vacation tend to relax. Maybe have a few drinks. Do whatever you don't remember every detail of it. Why would he lie knowing they have the transcript? It's foolish. He did not lie. I'm convinced he just forgot the details of the call. Something people do every single day. Now this case amazingly gets even worse. I WANNA get into Peter. Stroke the scandal of the three. Oh to which I didn't mention yesterday. I WANNA hat tip conservative treehouse. Guys by the way I saw something on their twitter is very good very good. That's where this comes from. And that's where their screen Scott's screen shots from. I want to get to that in a minute because it makes this case even worse now. We must framed now. We know they were going to close the case because they had nothing on him and number three even worse. They decided not to close the case to try to catch him at a perjury trap after having nothing on him after investigating him forever. Incredible all right. Today's show also I again. I appreciate your patience. We have great companies. Want to be here and talk to my audience and I deeply appreciate your support sport of these Business Express VPN. They've been a sponsor with us from the beginning. Vpn GET A VPN. Secure your online data today being stuck at home. You probably don't think much better privacy on your home network fire up incognito mode in your browser and no one can see what you're doing right now wrong even incognito mode your online activity can still be traced you know that even if you clear your browsing history or Internet service provider could still see every single website you've ever visited. That's why even we're home here. 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You get an three months free on a one year package that's great that's Xpress. Vpn Dot com slash Bongino Express VPN dot com slash Bongino to learn more K. Thanks Express VPN. So as I told you not only was framed now Mike Flynn not only you know he was set up. Not only now. Do we know that? We're going to close the case. But the interview him to frame them in a perjury trap. On a transcript. They already have. They don't need him to say what happened on the call. They already have it. They're just trying to trap in the media. They do this all the time. God forbid now we know you do this all the time the media that is lie and trying to cover up for the deep state. But that's a whole other story. There's another scandal brewing here again. Hat Tip Conservative treehouse. Guys Peter Stroke. Look at this weird text. He's talking about a three. Oh two now for those of you want familiar with. Fbi Terminology and F. Three. Oh two is a form written up after a subject interview. That basically says here's what we talked about in the interview. The three Oh to write I want you to look at this text. Youtube dot com slash. Bongino if you WANNA see for audio listeners. Don't worry I'll read it to you. This is interesting because what day Joe do you remember? Did Mike? Flynn Dedi was interviewed at the White House. That would be the January twenty three twenty seventeen yeah twenty-fourth that's right so on January. Twenty seven twenty th excuse me these two F. B. I. Agents IN VIOLATION OF PROTOCOL. Show up at the White House Direction of Jim Komi as admitted to to catch Mike. Flynn in a perjury trap. While he's sitting National Security Adviser. About a transcript. They already have now. They fill out this three. Oh two and what's the date on this text? Where stroke is texting to page. They're going back and forth. And they're saying also is Andy. The Deputy Director Andrew McCabe is he good with the three. Oh two they say. Fyi have a rapid three forty five to four and then they text back launch on the F. Three Oh to what's the date on that? Well if you watch it on youtube you can see it. You'll notice that the date is February fourteenth of twenty seventeen So Te'o Red Flag on the field laundry on the field folks under the Hood for review here so Flynn is interviewed at the White House on January. Twenty four and instead of just writing up the interview and submitting it from what I hear from. Fbi folks. I know within days of the interview. Which IS SAP. Joe Standard Operating Procedure Why do you think it takes close to three weeks for the write up of what was said in the interview to quote launch? I mean Joe if Flynn said what he said in the interview then just write it down and put it in the computer and let everybody see but that's not exactly what happened. It seems that the write up of the interview. Joe Was a deliberative process and by delivered process. I mean they're going back and forth going. How do we write up this interview with Flynn about the transcript? We already had and the sanctions question. How do we write it up to inflict maximum damage and make it look like Flynn Life? Oh Oh think about this. How do we do that and I have we? We go back if it me. And Joe we're trying to frame producers through for doing a bad job on the show yesterday Joe and I go back and forth. Hey remember we talked on the phone? Chu said he did a great job. Well he didn't exactly say did a great job in semi great job which turns into the telephone game. He said he did a good job. And then by the time Joe and I write it up it says. Ju- really sucks which doesn't sounds ASSOC Joe. Sounds like a deliberative process. But why would you need a deliberative process? If you're taking notes about what Flynn said. Just transcribing them onto a three. Oh to maybe because Joe what we've heard from the beginning was that these FBI agents Peter Stroke who's texting there and Joe Piarco who interviewed. Flynn on January. Twenty four th twenty seventeen at the White House. Maybe they did submit the three to right away and somebody on the seventh floor and the maccabee deputy director others. Maybe they didn't like the original version. Because maybe the original version said what leaked a long time ago that the F. B? I didn't think Flynn was lying in the interview about the sanctions that he just forgot mentioning it on the call with the Russians would mattbe bad. Yeah terrible that would be tragic. Wouldn't be of all people had a summary of an interview where they indicated their subject wasn't lying and may have just forgotten and that summary of the interview. The three zero two was edited repeatedly over three weeks to make it progressively seem worse. Now let's look at this Muller memo from the Muller team where they try to cover for the fact that this three Oh to joe had a date of February fourteenth despite the three zero two should have been done January twenty four to twenty fifth when they answer we interviewed Flint. Here's what he said. Let's check this out. This smaller probe was so disgustingly corrupt. Signed by the Hapless Brendan Van and Saint Ahmed. Who WORKED FOR THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE? Look this hat tip conservatory. They're talking about this three. Oh two and they say the government here by files to redacted versions. There's two versions of the three zero two summarizing the FBI's interview of Mike Flynn on January. Twenty four listen this show. This gets good. The content of birth both versions of the report is identical really except the first version which was digitally signed and certified in February two thousand seventeen inadvertently contained a header labeled draft document. Deliberative Material Oh. What's that hair? Error was recognized. The header was removed and a corrected version. Omitting only the header was resigned and recertified. Let me translate that folks because the Muller team we were going down that road do we. We need the Bungee no translator former federal agent there were multiple versions of this. We're at the top of the document. They admit their deliberate. They're going back and forth editing. The document their editing it. It says deliberative material draft then grabbing the special counsel office. They're saying no no Joe Joe Joe Timeout. Te'o Red Flag on the field. That draft deliberation stuff. Dow is just an error. That was just an error. My Dad D- Okay Nelson. No worry but I say we didn't do anything wrong. It was just that was a mistake the back and forth and the fact that we were editing. The three Oh to to make it seem more just a mistake. They're all identical. Don't you worry and you believe this. Oh I'm trying to check off like the stupid boxes here. I'm not kidding. I can't I can't no no no I don't I'm actually renting a gift. This pen and I know I'm running at A. So now he's frame. He's he's framed repeatedly by the way which I cover my next book by the way my next book coming out which I promise you're GonNa love. He's they tried to frame him. In Twenty Fifteen General Flynn. They try to frame of again with the crossfire razor investigation. When they find nothing they try to frame them again with the perjury trap. At the White House they write up the interview. They write it up but it doesn't show perjury because they don't think he lied and they admit it all of a sudden someone on the seventh floor gets a hold of that right up in the in because we can't right. He wasn't being dishonest. Maybe we should deliberate on this draft three weeks later Joe a new draft of the right up magically appears it makes them look like Flynn lied. Don't worry media folks nothing to see here. Don't you worry at all? I know you love government corruption. So it doesn't matter one bit. Don't you worry at all all right? I've got a lot to get to today. I've got this Biden stuff as well which we covered with president trump explosive explosive stuff. On by really doco anywhere we're gonNA loaded show again. Appreciate your patience. We have loaded show today today. Show STAMPS DOT com. Listen you need to avoid crowds. Anyway you can right now but what if you need to go to the post office? What have you need posted? She sent out letters and packages. Don't worry stamps DOT com. Has you covered in covered here to now anything to do with the post office? You can do it. Stamps DOT COM print postage on demand. Skip the line skip the crowds. Plus you can actually save money with this catch. You can't even get at the post office. Stamps DOT com brings all the services. 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Mr Biden if there's nothing going on here and these assault allegations misread is leveled against you when she worked in your Senate office which no one disputes. If there's nothing there and there's no paperwork all on it why won't you allow the records from your Senate office some of which are held at the University of Delaware? Why won't you allow a search records? Ladies and gentlemen. I will play the clip on Monday. Because we're busy. President trump's interview would happen. It's devastating Biden has no answer. He stumbles over himself. He doesn't show. There's nothing there but we don't know what if there's nothing there then. Fine Ladies and gentlemen this case is about to explode on Joe Biden. I can see a rollout and I don't mean to roll out like the media is trying to hurt you. They love Joe Biden. They'll do anything to attack them but the soon Nami of public criticism this one. This may bother you but I'm going to say it my audience. You know me I call out media. Bs whenever you know that please. I mean there's no one more concern having been a victim of it myself repeatedly as a candidate in having watched how they operate in the secret service. It's gross but they are a business. I they have shareholders they have stakeholders. They have people that need to make money to stay alive. I'm telling you ladies and gentlemen sensing a sea change the media's understanding right now that they can no longer after what twenty something days now of avoiding this now I think it was March twenty fifth when the allegations surface again. They have not gotten anywhere near this. Spent almost a month. They have not touched it. They're starting to censor saints change. Tell me if this makes sense. They're starting to realize that their credibility may be on the line permanently so they're weighing these options. Do we protect our guy. Joe Biden which they want to do or do we basically throw our business in the garbage can. They can't avoid this story for. I'm sensing a sea change now. Chris Hayes Mika Brzezinski MSNBC. I'm not applauding them. They've been conspiracy theorists. They say stupid things all the time but they're asking questions now folks. I'm not kidding Joe Biden's and a lot of trouble right now. His answer this morning about those files and when. I say files precision matters. We're talking about files related to a potential potential complaint that misread may have launched when it happened against Joe Biden for an alleged sexual assault if those files exist and Joe Biden. This morning seemed to imply there weren't any it's over it's over. There's no way he can stay in this. None the coverage on this up to this point has been absolutely atrocious. And I'm GonNa tell you something. Here's I'm GONNA play some video for you Nancy Pelosi. Here's why I think there's something to this. I want to be clear to. My standards have not changed. Fact that Joe Biden is my political. Opponent is meaningless and a race ideologically. Joe Biden is entitled to the presumption of innocence. He is entitled to evidence being produced. And he's entitled to refute that evidence if he has counter-evidence my standards don't change no matter what I said that during cavenaugh and I will say it. Now all people do not have the right to be believed they have the right to present. Evidence that valid should be believe? That's how a real republic functions and a real legal system getting back to. Here's why I think this guy is in real trouble and I think there's more here than meets the eye one panic this morning and MSNBC. But here's Nancy Pelosi. Trust me is read in on this whole thing. Pelosi was asked a question a press conference by the fantastic Keri Pickett and actionable reporter. Who Does Real Work Kerry picnic questions or listen to her response. She right away jumps down. I don't need a lecture check. This ridiculous answer out trying to defend Joe Biden remember. This is Nancy Pelosi. Joe Believe all women. Nancy Pelosi believe all women. Apparently except era reach this out us into question and I don't need a lecture or speech. Here's the thing I have a complete respects the holy to move and I have four daughters and one son and there's a lot of excitement around the idea that women will be heard and be listening to there is also due process and are the fact that Joe Biden Joe Biden. There's been sentenced from his campaign his campaign but he former employees who ran his office. There was never any record of were never any record and nobody ever came forward or nobody import to say something about it. Apart from the principal involve okay three takeaways from that little gym so number one job all of a sudden Nancy Pelosi who snapped at their vital lecture Joe now she believes in due process about that how that was the time for that twitter battle that now all of a sudden believe all women. Now we're back to due process. I'm just asking for a consistent standard which I think is reasonable but the Democrats expecting them to be principles. It's ridiculous secondly the defense. Joe Is really stunning. Joe The defense here just to be clear here. Yes is This is don't worry. Joe Joe Biden is Joe Biden. That's Tautological I think. Joe Biden is Joe. Joe Biden's Joe by Hillary Clinton Joe Biden. Joe Biden is not what Clark Kent who. What is Joe Biden is Joe? But how is that a defense founded Joe Biden is and the fact that Joe Biden is Joe Biden? Hair sniffer is really not a defense. I'm just saying okay again. The allegations will. Let's see the evidence. Joe Biden is entitled to the presumption of innocence. I'm just saying saying Joe Biden is Joe Biden. Which again is logical as if people don't have video of hair sniffing and really creepy behavior is not exactly the defense I'd be looking for. Not The droid. You're looking for. Not sure that's a defense. Don't worry Joe. Joe Biden is Joe Biden. No worries here buddy. Okay at ease raid rest. You got it. Finally she says and there's no record of this well nance that's obvious to prove right. Joe How hard is that? The have Joe Biden searched the records to University of Delaware Delaware in the Senate authorized. They release right sure but now he's enough right. Joe Biden no ought to do that. Joe Biden panicked would ask this morning. So we have the The three for their all of a sudden Nancy Pelosi. Pelosi doesn't want to believe all women she wants to believe in due process unlike cabinet where believe all women was the standard Joe Biden is Joe Biden hair sniffer is defense number two and defense number two? You don't worry there's no records okay. Let's let's just check that out. That's easy enough. No no no. It's not check it out. We don't want you to find the records we told you don't exist okay. Sure now the Democrats of course who have flipped on this repeatedly remember their old standard was believe all women when it came to the ridiculous allegations against Brett caveats with no supporting evidence at all by the way those shows we did back then remember though Joe Show Joe. They were on fire because people were furious about what happened. The witch hunt on Brad Kavanagh. But that's not what the Democrats were saying so just to be clear. Democrats if you have any principles left and I'm sure sadly many of you don't some some do but many of you don't back then. I'm sure you were calling for due process with cavenaugh right well again. Hat tip the Great Thomas Elliot on Twitter. Here's a little montage by the way this goes on all day how to cut it like a minute while Joe did for me. He does all the technical work we had to cut this off. Here's a montage of Democrats in media. Folks I'm sure Joe calling for due process and say don't worry breath Kavanagh's Brad Kavanagh. He deserves due process. Check this out. I believe Dr Blasi Ford. Because he's telling the truth and you know it by her. Sore Java denies being at the Party to begin with and says his accuser might have mistaken him for someone else. What's your reaction to that? Well I heard you know on many many predators. Say and refute allegations against them. I think what we know as I said I believe professor for I think she's credible and I think when the investigation is finished and when she testifies and judge Dobbin with testifies I think majority of senators will find credible. He told her husband does the trauma who's been dealing with her whole life. She doesn't want to be in a bedroom but doesn't have two doors and it's going to be about listening to each party has decided but I believe you story tell you really decimal ring of truth to it. I am skeptical. Polygraph for those who believe in. She has passed a polygraph tennis again. That goes on that clip for probably another minute and a half two minutes in the interest of time producer. Joe was kind enough to not expose you to any more idiocy in that cut one of them that that a representative actually calls him a Predator. Kevin is she's not only come to the conclusion he did it despite no evidence scout but he was a predator. Man's life has been ruined for the rest of his life. He'll be googled. And the first stories that come up just like the the grotesque attacks on Clarence Thomas going to be false charges levelled against them but back then it was a okay. Member due process didn't exist but we believe we believe her. You did I guess. The new thing isn't believable. Women Jokes believe some women some of the time as long as they attack Republicans gross now even worse. The Biden campaign is just flooding this if president trump said and our interview. If you didn't do it just come out and say I didn't do it. There are no records. Look at the records. Check it out. I adamantly now to be fair Biden is denying is saying. This never happened again again. We're giving him what he never gave any Republican due process. He is denied but he's not producing any evidence that he didn't that I now. That's not the standard. The Standard in republic is the guilty party. Has There has the obligation produce Steven? You don't have to prove you're innocent. I'm simply suggesting that politically speaking. If he wants this behind him not legally politically speaking if he wants this behind him Joe. He has to produce evidence. It didn't happen politically the media. Set that up not me. So the Biden campaign came out with some talking points show and said no worries. The New York Times has investigated this Joe and there is. No evidence has happened. It's been debunked Fox News Dot Com. Check this story out in the show notes Bongino newsletter. Yeah oh his Fox News. New York Times says Biden camps talking points are inaccurately describing their Tara Reid reporting to New York Times. Did Not debunk the story. They're just making that up. Stacey Abrams and others have got out of the New York. Times is discredited the story. It's not exactly what happened now. Is it? I'm telling you I'm GonNa leave the stories. I got a lot more to get to. I'm sensing sea change here. It's not because the media wants to start doing journalism because there were all of a sudden going to speak truth to power that's all. Bs corrupt the Kratz. They have zero integrity. I'm sorry they don't. They're doing this because their business models endanger and they know long term if they don't cover this thing and this turns out to be true. The sexual assault allegation their credibility. If they had any left will be done forever. I'm telling you watch. This is going to be real trouble for Joe Biden. All right well one. 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That unleashed this plague across the world and lied about it. Cnn row put a piece together suggesting how their model is something. We should follow. I'M GONNA leave that one right there. This is where we are. You would think after the disaster. China caused that there be calls to distance ourselves from China. No not CNN. Apparently there are people want us to be more lie to check out this story at the Atlantic even worse covered this the other day. Internet speech will never go back to normal in the debate over. Freedom versus control of the global network. China was largely correct and the US was wrong by Jack. Goldsmith and Andrew Greenwood's. These are professors in prominent schools colleges around the country's ladies and gentlemen. This is dangerous stuff. I'll say seen it with these outlets out there with the tech tyrants the suppression of Spruce Free Speech is getting worse and liberals have entirely. They have entirely dumped their commitment that they had some decades ago the ACLU and others they. Some of these groups have entirely dumped their allegiance the civil liberties whether it spy gate the obvious framing of Mike. Flynn the overreach by some law enforcement. During these corona virus lockdowns the Internet policing the dumping of content that disagrees with the consensus thought from the. Who has been wrong from the start? The wiping of material clean from these tech tiring companies. We are going into a dangerous spot right now. Ladies and gentlemen I am. Deeply concerned is going to require something. I mentioned early and often on my show years ago and haven't spoken about a lot since it's going to require the rebuilding entire economy committed to liberty and free speech. We have outlets parlor that one of my sponsors be candid parlor which is a well unlike. Twitter doesn't suppress your your parlays. They call them. But it's a similar type platform. I'm on there you have other outfits out there right now. You have options to go for video and elsewhere ladies and gentlemen. This is getting troubling. That got a lot more to get to just going back to the spy. Gay Case for a moment. There's been more revelations about this. This is a quick one but I want to know who. This person is in these F. B. I. Notes Hatip Despite Lana La Cova who was a victim of the whole Mike. Flynn targeting scandal. Remember they put Flynn in two thousand fifteen next to missile Cova at a dinner in the UK. And they go. Oh my gosh. Flintstone woman. Born in Russia could be compromised is totally nonsense made up fabricated Bs. But they messed with the wrong woman. Spent LINE ON. The cover has a new book out by the way these called the spider and she has been basically tortured by this. Fbi Source Stephan. How her for a long time? Who seems to have ruined her life and ruined the reputation so she decided to fight back and write a book about it good for her but that dinner in two thousand fifteen so just to be clear. Mike Flynn gets invited to a dinner. In the United Kingdom he seated next to missile. Cova who was born in Russia. Rumors start appearing in the press. Later on that. Gosh Mike. Flynn was next to this Russian. It may have been a compromising situation. Joe Wink Wink. Non Non. Yeah of course because the Obama Administration hated Mike. Flynn back in two thousand fifteen remember. He's the director of the DIA. The Defense Intelligence Agency. He's the director he runs it. He's their own guy and they're attacking him because he's speaking out against the Iran deal in some of our Afghanistan war policies. The Obama Administration needs. Flynn got so somebody sets him up. Now this is what's weird these FBI. Notes I'll translate before I'm not GonNa read the whole thing but it says this is the new notes we've seen some reductions in there says the crossfire hurricane. Investigative team also addressed this investigation through confidential human sports report of reporting on Crossfire Razor in other words on Flynn for any derogatory or lead information as such the confidential source contacted and established. Fbi Excuse me crossfire. Hurricane contacted an established human source to query about razor. During the debriefing the source relayed an incident. He witnessed in crossfire. Razors spoke at blank in the blank the CHS was unaware the date but noted that crossfire as it were still in his position within the US. Government the intelligence community the source advised that after Razor Spokane socialized with members of redacted at a dinner over drinks members of redacted. Got a cab to take razor to the train station to bring her to blank stated that Surpri surprised everyone and that they got into certain razors cabin joins CR on the train really. Who's the source so just to be clear? Joe I know I get. It is the audience referee. I can read your mind. You probably translate firsthand twee. It'd be clear when Mike Flynn is set up at this. Two Thousand Fifteen Dinner Obama's still the president and sat next to spend Cova totally innocent but was born in Russia. That was that was Herbert steaks. You're born in Russia because that that gave them all the fodder they needed. There's an allegation that he leaves this event in a cab and gets on a train. Nothing wrong with that. Flynn as people with two and this confidential human source joe relaying this to the FBI says they saw it which would mean what shell that they were at the dinner. Right Yeah was helper at that dinner. Oh no no no. He wasn't who was that source way. You're telling me the FBI had another source at that dinner because it says the source said he saw it That's not what I'm telling you. Helper was at dinner if that sources helper an who he was just caught the really really bad fabrication. Maybe I think we need to find out who that confidential human sources because if it's not helper possible then I wanna know who the other. Fbi sources at that dinner because how they're so either the FBI is hitting. Mike Flynn with multiple spice spying on them. Joe I'm Jay or option. B How irs lying as I quoted Chris Rock there? I was thinking of another same. That's Dave Chapelle. Because we knew he was lying for those of you saw Chapelle excellent comedy specials either the FBI spying on Flynn with more than one guy. Or How irs lying interesting emit considering? How present formation is probably what was used to spy on President? Trump's team to t o how? I got some splayed into do art as I told you before I wanted to move. The media's is again hapless especially these left wing blogs one of the worst being law and crime outfit. They're already prepping you for the narrative on Flint. So we know he was framed. We know they had no derogatory information. We know now. They tried to spy on them with either or another spy too which is even worse and we know after they wanted to close down the case they changed their mind to catch them in a perjury trap. But none of this bothers I the ironically titled Law and Crime Website a known mouthpiece for leftist media people who have no integrity our principals at all who claim to have legal degrees in other. Look at this headline. They've already prepped their narrative. Show again. That's why the left does not care. They love police. State target. None of this flint stuff bothers them at all. We're not arguing for Moore agree for the Third Person Listening Liberal. Don't care they love this up headline Loin crime by Matt Nathanson. Aaron Keller obviously to completely unprincipled folks. The bombshell that wasn't lawyers say the F. B. I.'s tactics and Mike Flynn case. Where Routine Jogesh? So we know he's supposed legal professionals hear writing for Law and Crime Law. No crime you might want to dump the law part. Maybe just call it. Crime dump the whole thing. So it's routine to target the director of the Defense Intelligence Administration potentially multiple spies or to use a spy. That lied to you. I don't know which one is true allied or they're multiple spider who also commented way. Set Him up at dinner and Impune. The integrity of an innocent woman would spend a lot of La Cova. And then when you find out in a file there's no derogatory information that set up didn't work you try to close the file but then the FBI tells you not to close the file to go back and interview 'em again and you interview them at the White House about transcript you already have. You don't need to interview Mont. And then when he forgets to not the exact words you can't get the exact words down you charge him with lying even though you're three. Oh to says you don't think he lied. So you edit the three to to make it out like he lied but don't worry don't worry this is all regular routine for the FBI according to the law and Crime numskulls again. Maybe they should just wipe the law and part out. Just stick with the whole crime thing. All right we're going to wrap spin log show appreciate it just one final story because it's a good one. Listen whether you like Tessler not we were going to buy one. My wife and I would change your mind but Eli Bosc is becoming quite the free marketeer here which is ironic. Because he seems to have benefited from a lot of you know. Subsidies FOR ELECTRIC CARS BUT WASHINGTON. Examiner has a piece on. Eli Moscow. Apparently like unloaded on one of his calls here with their with their their stakeholders in the company of tested their forcefully imprisoning imprisoning people in their homes. He blasts the fast fastest pandemic orders during an earnings call. Listen folks wherever we can get on our side for this move despite our history with them or not. Let's take it must brought up a good point if you want to quarantine this you're you're you're an at risk person. You're an older person you you have some of the conditions of morbidity probably a smart move but these draconian state your home or else measures they gotta go and whoever we can get on our team. I encourage you to read the articles. Pretty good apparently said one of his conference calls. Check it out if we can get. Us gone our team. Then let's do it because we need to open up our economy and we need to get back to some semblance of a normal life. Say I was fair to Aspen now. 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John Ross Bowie

Alison Rosen Is Your New Best Friend

1:17:58 hr | 2 months ago

John Ross Bowie

"Hey everyone hi hello. Welcome to another episode of alice. Greg what are you doing here. Hey what do you mean what alison. Where'd you come from brag. I came from the world of childish. And i just wanna make sure that your listeners know that you're just as wonderful on the on the podcast. What if they don't have kids donate donate them a lot of our listeners. Actually tell us they don't have kids. We talk about sex. We talk about all sorts of dirty stuff but also parenting. Yeah so the checkout childish new episodes every wednesday wherever you listen to podcasts best spray. Hey everyone hi hello. Welcome to another exciting episode. Of alison rosen. Is your new best friend. I'm very excited to bring in my guest. But i i must catch up with producer. Toni braxton aka the bad boy of podcasting tony. This is two weeks in a row. Now where our guest has danced to my if i say so myself. Infectious theme song. And i've felt like you know. As i said last week we started streamlining the video. So it's just starts with me talking and then you just see a like like the title goes across the screen and then you know. We don't make people wait around for the music because that's what yesterday that's a yesterday thing today. Everything is slick or something. I don't know. I'm trying to get on board with how we're doing it on youtube dot com slash alison rosen. But we're going to have to include some of the guests dancing half do we'd be fools not to maybe also start including me pretending to look like i'm doing a bunch of stuff so i don't have to dance. We can do that too. We can have a top shit. Tony we don't. We don't need to do that. Just call an. I'm just calling myself out on my my non dancing. Would you describe yourself as a wet blanket. Tony depends on the scenario. I think sometimes yeah. I'll admit it for certain occasions and also. Do you know what the origin of wet blanket is. Because daniel and i and as you can tell from that setup i do and i'm just looking for an opportunity to let you know forget. Oh daniel this is. This is a terrible terribly boring and mundane backstory. I'll make very fast. Great way to start the show. Yes daniel accused me of being a wet blanket and then we were talking about wet blankets and he was like a wet blanket. Imagine your if you had a wet blanket on top of you like it'd be so uncomfortable. And i said i don't think that's what a wet blanket is. I think a wet blanket is something used to put out. Fires and i was raining. Oh really yeah. My my bad guests was going to be that it had something to do with bed-wetting udaya interesting is there. But i was just. Yeah that's all i had. I was not. I didn't wet the bed for a long time. But when i was learning to be potty trained i do have memories of wetting the bed occasionally and my mom would put these rubber sheets on the bed which felt like a punishment. Even though it really wasn't it was just supposed to protect the bed. But i have this very visceral memory of like crunchy rubber sheets. I as someone who has two small children these anymore and thank god like imagine a latex glove but it's a sheet. Yeah like a bed. We saw that. And that's what's on top. You know it. You put the rubber blanket on around the mattress. And then he put a sheet on top of open. It's not necessarily the sheets. Yes okay sat actually so then you still have a west sheet or web light. That's easier to replace. Sure deal with than the mattress. The other thing. I have to tell you and then we got to bring in the guests because it's downright rude but he's still in traffic. I experienced the weirdest thing today. I was trying to remember something. And i was going nuts because i could. It was like the tip of my tongue. And i couldn't remember it and then i finally remembered it and usually you would experience. I think relief when you remember something like oh good. I'm not going insane But i experienced sh- like ecstasy. I experienced joy. It was the wires got crossed in my brain. But like you know you hear of people who orgasm every time they sneeze tell me you've read these new stores. Were things like that. It was almost like an orgasmic enjoyment of being able to remember this thing. And here's what i think. Remember also last week. Where i talked about how i believe. I'm evolving. Because i heard good good news happening in entertainment happening separately to different people and i only felt joy for them which is very unusual for me so i think something perhaps has become unlocked in me and now i'm able to experience simple pleasures joy for other people the simple joy of remembering something. It's a whole new world for me. Tony let's get you gotta take the winds right now because everything else seems real bad right now but you know what go ahead. Oh i was just gonna say real. I'll keep this real quick then there. You're about to bring the. But i felt like this was relevant to the show. I went to a place near here. A record store called permanent records that has opened now. a it's called permanent. Records roadhouse in. It's a bar. Also when they're having shows there as well they have outdoor patio and they're having comedy shows. I went to the outdoor comedy show last night and some friends of the show. Were on the show. Elisa skinner sara schaefer and so saw them said hello to elisa. Didn't say hello. Sarah but and then i went in for a moment to look through some records and somebody came and stood across and put their elbows down and they were clearly doing some sort of bit with me. Look up and it's our friend. Joke was allah. I love joke was allah me to not not on the show just there to hang out. Yeah so yeah. That was a nice surprise to run into him. How long did the bit go like once you saw. Who was then. Did he accuse you of having a faecal record in a british accent. Which is the bit that he normally does. No he was on. He was only kind to me. The the bit was just waiting for me to see him. And i saw him fairly quickly. So yeah we had a nice little talk nice. Yeah it was good to see him out there being social trion. Trion scary out there That was outside most of the time filled. Okay yeah well that's good. We need to get all of them back on the show. Yes you know who we have on the show today somewhat. I liked quite a bit. I know someone that you have told me a very nice person. And if our pre show chatter is any indication you are spot on with that assessment. You know him from the big bang theory. Speechless love on netflix. Hadn't mentioned that one because it was one of my faves and like a million other things he also is. The host of new podcast called household faces with john. Ross bowie. please put your hands together. John ross bowie. Thank you so much. Thank you thank you. Hello so i will tell you since. I'm not gonna pretend that you didn't hear all of that beforehand. Even though i was pretending. But i've decided i'm not going to. I know that you have a bit of a punk background. And so i would i was trying to. I lived in new york for a number of years and it suddenly popped into my head. There was a club. I think across the river in new jersey that i never went to but a lot of say dan maxwell that's what it was but i couldn't i couldn't remember the name maxwell's and i couldn't remember what city it was in and it was driving me insane and then a friend of mine had moved to new jersey like there was a place in new jersey that a lot of people who have business in manhattan moved to and i was like maybe if i remember the name of that town. That'll be you know like in my brain adjacent in somehow. And then i couldn't remember that and it was like forgetting how to speak a foreign language i was i've lost all of my everything. It was likely hoboken. Yes and plan. And that's where maxwell's was. There was a great. There's a record store stores. There was a great place called peer planners that was right by the water in hoboken. That was really really really cool. But yeah maxwell's is great they would feed you which was nice which was no small thing just like a bowl of pasta but it could be very very useful thing because if we we played there a couple of times at the end of three day tour and go up through new york state and then we come back down through jersey. Was this yes. Yeah when i was in my band had for like three or four years in the ninety s and maxwell's had it was weird. Did you ever play their tony. Yeah played their handful of times. Yeah and it was weird because it was it was it was great. All good sight lines as an audience member and then on stage had really good sound but had this weird old fashioned tin ceiling which you think would be acoustic nightmare but it sounded great in there we had a. We had a lot of very very fun. Shows that place. You know what i do. Remember the my one. Negative memory of that place was getting gear on and off. Stage was a fucking nightmare. If there was a lot of people there there was no. There was no side or back entrance. It was all just through the crowd onto the stage. Yes well egghead. Really have that problem as someone more sporadically attended. But i imagine that yes. It was a challenge for abandoned. People enjoy there was a club in l. a. And i wish i can remember the name of it but the stage was up in the air and you had to climb a ladder to get on stage and i just remember thank god. I wasn't in charge of getting my amp up there. Because i wouldn't have been able to do it. I could barely get myself up there. And then i was afraid i was gonna. This is the least punk rock thing ever. But i was afraid i was going to fall off the entire time. It was really an unpleasant experience. Has anyone ever played on a stage. That's dangerously in the high in the air toning. I also a not quite that. But i definitely i think it was somewhere in illinois. Couldn't tell you what city but we played at a skate park. And we lit it was indoor and we played at the top of escape ramp terrified and there was a like actual ramp to gather up there but it was like so steep and it was just. Yeah also played a skate park in highland park but it was outside so you were just basically on you were at ground level and everyone was beneath that it was like playing next to an empty pool essentially but even that swearing vertigo. Yeah even that kind of threw me. And that was know very avoidable too. Not plummet into the onto the the ramp onto the the pipe. But what you're describing is nightmare. I i will have actual anxiety dreams about that scenario. Well that's our parting gift to you. You're welcome thank you play in. The band played bass and sang about half the songs. Nice do you still play. I do actually. Yeah and i hate to say it because it's such a cliche but i picked it up quite a bit. During the pandemic. I start playing a lot more guitar and i bought myself a new base for the first time since nineteen ninety. Six and the there's a few I the combination of the pandemic and encroaching midlife crisis Really hit me pretty hard. So yeah there's deer in the house with not here twelve months ago. Are you actually having an encroaching midlife crisis. So yeah ooh tell that has it feel well. You know it's weird. But it's it's not it's manifesting itself in in in pretty dumb ways you know. I have no intention of having an affair. Because i just can't multitask but i have playing more music plugging in my my little marshall amp here a friend on a whim and not even knowing that i would be amenable to such a thing. A friend invited me to an in person all vaccinated. dnd game. And i said yes. I will take you up on that. So it's not it's not a classical. La sports car twenty girlfriend kind of midlife crisis but there is a regressive quality to my tastes right now where. I'm going back to things that i really enjoyed when i was twelve or fourteen like dungeons and dragons and punk rock and and and and hanging out there a little more than i expected to at the i currently am. Are you because to me like an element of a midlife crisis is taking stock of where you are in your life and thinking about like when i was young. Here's what i where. I thought i was going to be. Here's what i wanted to accomplish here. I am i am i. Am i okay with where i am. What things do i want to let go of is there. Is there some of that. That's a good question. It's not a dissatisfaction. With where i am i was talking with. I'm going to drop a name here. But i think it's i need to drop this name for the story to work. I was talking to brian. poe sane the other day about my new podcast which is just me interviewing character actors. You know not necessarily hugely famous people. But people who are got household names but household faces hence the title bryan. And i are talking about this. Brian paulson sane. Said when i was growing up. That's what i wanted to be at wanted to be. The guy who wandered into a sitcom says something funny and then wandered out and then that was my my job and i said i wanted to be that too and look man. We did it. Yeah and that's not nothing. It a low bar perhaps but there's plenty of people who aren't there right so i i am actually quite happy with my with my career and my family but it was hard not to have a keener sense of your mortality over the past twelve months this is this is a comedy podcast and we get we get dark. Go for it and with the reaper. Knocking at all of our doors. Remember like that panic when we were really just figuring out what was going on when we're all wiping down our groceries with just talking just talking to my husband about that last night like god remember when we used to wipe down everything before we brought it in the house. and allison. you've got kids. I have yeah. I have a four year old and a two year old. Okay i have a. I have a fourteen and eleven year old man so they were fully cognizant for what was going on. You know we had to explain so we can't go outside actually and or we can. We can't go very far. We can't the playgrounds out of the question. There's just a bunch of things. We cannot do that pizza places closed and it was very very scary time. And i'm not gonna pretend that We as a world don't have a certain amount of ptsd you know. We're not out of the woods. But i think it was really a freaky time so i went to like. What are the things that are guaranteed to make me feel good and this this dopey fantasy role playing game with people who are are are not taking the game so seriously that like i'm being yelled at if i don't do a voice that we were were still you know grownups in improv people enjoying each other and just the the the satisfaction of of playing music or got a bunch of reaching out to me who is should get together and just play some covers for the first time years. People are reaching out to me that so. I don't think i'm alone in this particular flavor of midlife crisis but it is very telling that people have been like. That's what i wanna do right now. This year taught me that. I've got to enjoy myself because we are. No one here gets apple you've show. Let's get together and we'll learn some minor threat covers and enjoy ourselves. So i know that you and tony know each other in real life. I don't know why. I said real as opposed to what the cartoon that you guys will start. I don't know but how did you guys each other. I became a fan of his band motion city soundtrack in two thousand and four when their first full length came out and actually came in two thousand and three body. Two thousand four nerd That's right actually. I didn't know that it came in two thousand three. And i just loved it. I loved that record loved loved loved it and i will. I've said this to his face. I'm not saying it's just because he's in the room. I particularly was struck by the drumming on it And i just thought this like oh this is like sort of mo but there's a sense of humor and there's a mughanna tremors insane. It's just a lot going on here. That i really enjoy. And then i ended up following them on social media and then so that would be sort of like reaching towards the music thing. But then tony in la and just became more comedy adjacent and our pass eventually crossed. And i did his old christmas podcast that he used to do which was so fun at least not instead. Yeah such such a goofy specific concept. I loved but yes i'm friends with with tony and i'm friends with with justin the singer so before we started you joked about having a chart where you are determining is nicer. You were tony and there's did joke about chart but really i and i know it would be awesome if i actually did have a chart. Ha ha ha. But really i mean. Ask anybody it's tony. Tony is absolutely the nicer guy. I'm perfectly true. What watch watch someone like. Cross me on social media. How see how cuddly i am. It's no it's not this is there's no contest. It's tony tony by a country mile. You're so much more friendly and outgoing. Though i'm much more quiet. Outgoing is not the same thing as nice right but without going what are you doing. We'll strike up a conversation with people whereas all just kind of you know. Stand in the corner and look at my phone. That doesn't mean you're not nice. That i mean it means maybe introverted. And that's fine. But i wouldn't qualify you as well. Listen the bottom line is it. Doesn't matter what i'm trying to do. In my daily life is being more kind which is different than nice. I have manners. I show up on time. I make contact shaking your hand. That's all well and good. I'm trying to be a little more kind in my in my life. And that's tony's got me there to do you feel like there's been a like. Is that an area where you could improve. Yeah i mean. I think it's an area where a lot of us could improve. I don't think i'm particularly unique in that. I would like to in generally general be of service to my fellow man a little bit more and there's a lot of ways that that can that can manifest itself but i've taken during the pandemic i bought. I had to get them on amazon. Because i didn't know how else to get them. So i've already dinged in my karma just by having someone who's been working fourteen hours a day mail me something but i bought one of those Garbage pick up things and so. I'll go around the neighborhood. Sometimes i'll take my son and just pick up trash in in the neighborhood and there's a lot of it but it feels good and i'm just doing it just to kind of get out of the house get a little bit of gets him. When you know there was really limited as to what you could do back like twelve months ago. It was a really good. It was like this was what i'm gonna do today. If i'm gonna go outside the least i could do is pick up some some. You burger king wrappers. But i was doing that a little bit and the second one sees like a d list celebrity picking up garbage service community service got a dui that guy one hundred percent gotta dui but it was really just. It was just guilt and shame about the way the city was looking. And this need to do something you know real like think locally and globally stuff so yeah i'm trying to do more things like that in my life You mentioned that you can be prickly in what situations i don't suffer fools and i don't think i'm the smartest person in the room on the contrary and pretty dumb but if i find someone who's even dumber than i am. I really lose patients weekly. And it's not been a grit and social media has amplified contrast in a way that. I don't think anyone expected jack. Dorsey mark zuckerberg. I don't think anybody really gave it a lotta thought but her you've asked is part of my prep for this podcast. You asked about things that are driving one crazy. Would you like to do one of them now. Should we do usually save it for the end or jumping the gun. No you know what happens just to let everyone let everyone behind the curtain again. So we we do just mere everyone and hey go fuck yourself and what keeps happening. Is i do them at the end. And then we run at a time. We don't get to them. So i think it'd be great to do one now. Let's do it. I have a general. Hey go fuck yourself. i'm gonna. I'm gonna use. I'm going to personify one. Particular kind of internet troll. I'm gonna name. Let's say fred and he he's a particular kind of internet troll. That has has come for me lately. Because i while i don't necessarily think vaccine mandate is the way to go. I think people should get vaccinated. And i'm going to spread information about the safety of vaccines and their efficacy. And i have people screaming at me that it's the mark of the beast boy and that it's going to microchip them and that it's poison and these people almost inevitably follow me because i was on a show about scientists who have their work peer-reviewed scrupulously or they become laughing stocks so i am struggling lately with not exploding at the people who enjoyed my work on the show about scientists but apparently thought it was just about a group of guys who wear loud colors. They missed. They missed a crucial element of big bang theory. And i'm not speaking for anybody on the show. My opinions do not reflect. Those of warner brothers lives made that abundantly clear but it is striking how many people dug and the the sitcom about scientists and are screaming at me that the vaccine is the mark of the beast. So hey fred. Hey i sometimes. I think i i do believe a vaccine mandate would be good. I don't know logistically. How that's why i think. Probably it's practical or rather it's it's probably the right thing to do. I don't know how practical it is. And and you know. Yeah listen it is a government mandate to inject yourself with something that is. We're in a touchy area. But if more people realized the greater good they could be doing. But this is just what this pandemic has shown in the states. Is that this whole rugged individualism thing is just not sustainable it. We are not all isolated especially those of us in urban centers. And and now it's the smaller towns that are starting to pay for that level of rugged individualism as the city's gradually kind of come out from under the rubble. So i don't know i got super heavy. They're just a shoutout to i. I think it's i think it's science time with tracy or science timeless stacey. She's on talk. I am not on talk. But i might get onto talk just for her but a lot of people have been posting these side by side video. I had seen her. Yeah diyala just and she'll have a quack and the other side somebody backs. Who's going to talk about how the vaccine works. And then she just debunks it and it's so she's so like understated in it's so well done stats what i need. I need more. There needs to be more of her. And less of me. Because i don't have that level headed and also i you know i was an english major at a college that few people have heard of. I'm not you know -ality let's check out. You did your homework. Bless your heart. But you know. I'm not going to claim that i am an md. But i seem to be listening to a lot of very prominent and but she's just got such an even keel and she's never condescending. Which is the biggest problem with the left myself included. And she just she is she. That is as the kids say goals looking at. You have listen. Millennium girlfriend told me that. 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And which is you have achieved that. Can you tell me more. About what why that appealed to you. Well it seemed like a realistic goal. It seemed like a more realistic goal than movie star And it felt like suicide from the sheer practicality of it there's very pragmatic youth. Were you right well. I was because i actually gave up on the acting dream for a while until i took. I got it back sort of in my late twenties. Because i had tried a bunch of other things for careers was miserable and just wouldn't give this a try and then started booking commercials and sort of caught my footing pretty quickly but there was something about when i was when i was growing up i was looking at watch. Tv growing up. And i was in that sort of fun pocketed of seventies television. So it's soap. Bernie miller wpa cincinnati Welcome back kotter. And i it was drawn to the smaller characters. I was drawn to the the guys who came in and said we're little non sequiturs and then wandered away. And and they all you know. I didn't look like john travolta the seventies time because you had like elliott. Gould was romantic. Lead a decade. And that that screw with all of us you know like we're doing a romantic comedy. Get me walter matthau very. It was an unusual time so that probably skewed my perspective but it was still very much. is focused on the guys in the corner of the screen and ned beatty in superman chris for rivas great. But i'm never going to look like christopher reeve you know ned beatty seems kind of interesting going on here. And then you know lesser less. Famous people like steve landsberg from bernie miller or herb edelman. Who was dorothy ex-husband on golden girls all these guys who would come into the sitcom kill it and leave and it's like i probably did like a day's work amazing. What a gig and yeah. I got very very lucky. My first gig in la was on a sitcom that nobody remembers. We only brand for like two months but it was number six on the call sheet. It was illegal sitcom and i was the incredibly dumb paralegal. Who came in set. A non-sequitur brought the house down. Walked out and it was a dream gig fun well. One of the many problems with had the rather clunky title of a usa which stands for assistant united states. Attorney as you know. Allison of course yeah and that was problem number. One problem number two is that while we were on after frazier. We were on up against the second season of american idol and we just got decimated week after week. It was bloodshed. Second season is clay and shuttered. And you know the the show is still a juggernaut. That was basically jay. Was this david and goliath in goliath. Just wins week after week after week. but it was an amazing experience and it was. It was incredible. Like i moved here to this. Be like a tertiary character on a sitcom instantly happened. So it's been it's been a good journey for me. And i find that the guys who who are still sort of living job to job in this business are the ones with the craziest stories. I feel like they're the ones who've just been because they're never the people who get waited on hand in foot so they're not losing their perspective. The way a matt damon might. They're still auditioning some of them well into their older years and it's given them a grounded quality and a treasure trove of anecdotes that they'd never gotten to tell on falun. I it's great. You consider yourself someone who lives job to job gallia. Well yeah i mean. I've had a couple of runs as a series regular. But like i'm coming sixteen to nineteen was a really good stretch for me. I was a regular on speechless. And i was still allowed to do. Big bang theory occasionally. That's the most job stability. I've had in in twenty years in the union and again that is rare and i'm completely aware of that. I'm not complaining but since then yeah it's been. It's been jobs job and i've auditioned a bunch still and i don't even someone put it in perspective recently who listeners. Listening interview with phil morris. Who was Jackie what's his face. The lawyer on seinfeld is clear. Supposed to be Just tiles jackie child so yeah so feel more was giving her view where he was talking about getting really upset that he still had to edition in middle years and he ran into an even older actor. Great actor named oba babatunde. Who is he's in that thing you do in the original cast of dreamgirls on broadway. You'd know him if you saw him he's a household face and he was heading into addition and he was like. Hey man. I don't know if i'm gonna get another chance to act this week. This is my chance to act this week. And i thought that over and i was like man. I really do love doing this. And it is a little bit of a headache to like you know put on my ring light and get off work and get everything together and you know you know shave on sunday night so i can get in for monday morning but it might be my only chance to act that week and i enjoy doing it so Yeah i've just gotten into this place where i'm very much at peace like i've counted times been so many times in my career roving. Well that's it. I got to wrap this up. Intrepid maybe get an msw. What does that look like. And and i keep getting a job or two. So i think i'm going to stick with it and and drop dead onset of a hospital drama when i'm like eighty the episode dedicated to me. You said that you're at peace. Now when was the time in your. Was there a time in your career where you were not at peace. Oh yeah oh there are plenty of times with. I mean i think anybody who's going to get at a point where they're like what. Why can't i catch a break. What is happening. you know. You'll just have a streak of bad auditions or you'll the thing you were saying earlier about People enjoy for other people at your at that place where absolutely everyone is taking out of your kids. Mouth johnny didn't have kids yet. Shut up everyone was taking food out of my future kids mouth and it was a daunting and dispiriting and i remember one they. There was one sitcom addition that i went out for and they called me back and then they tested me and they said we can't offer you the role i gotta be honest with. The network is making offers to other people who aren't going to audition. And i was like okay. But we'd love for you to do the table read. And i was like you know what i'll do. The table read. And i showed up at the table. Read and i killed. I destroyed at the table read. I'm not just saying. I'm perfectly capable of telling you when i bombed. This was not one of those times. I did structural damage that building and two hours later. David cross got the part and i. That was the last time that the business was just shattering. Me and i was just like one of my even doing but important footnote completely different place in his career. The pilot did not go to series it. no one. I'm not even sure if the guys who wrote it gotta deal based on that pilot it would have been a game changer on any real front and might have been a little bit of a payday but it would not have you know. Really shifted the needle in any recognizable fashion. Everything is super annoying to hear but everything really does happen for a reason. And if i if that thing had gone on to be a hit then. I wouldn't have been able to do speechless. Which was incredible. I wouldn't have had the recurring on big bang theory which was an international hit I've been very very fortunate and it would be it would be incredibly ungracious for me to not recognize that when i'm finding from what i'm sorry i keep blabbering on what i'm finding you're here to blabber you're doing great most of my guess feel the same way i ask all of my guests if there was a role that got away from them they all have they all have a couple of very surprising moments. Where you're like. There's a whole multi multi-diverse out there where mackenzie astin is jack. In titanic and john carroll lynch is walter white in breaking bad and but they're all they're all fine with it. They all recognize the rice person. Got the job and everything's cool and and they found something else that they might not have gotten had they had. They gotten the job that got away everyone. I'm auditioning with everyone. I'm interviewing rather is is my age or older been a couple of cases if people were younger than me but most of the characters i'm dealing with her in their fifties and sixties and they were all just really chill. They've just got a nice little run going. They know their place. They're happy there and it's been really. It's been really inspiring to talk to all of them has a mackenzie astin one aired. I no not yet. We're gonna save that one. We've got a spoiler alert. We have a double-header coming out on halloween with him and his father john asked my god the o. g. gomez addams. Who was an fascinating. Every he's ninety two years old thoroughly compass mantis still teaches at his. I teach is at johns hopkins. His alma mater. Wow where there was a theater that bears his name stories. Oh my god. He had stories. It was awesome. I was a huge facts of life fan. So i got excited excited over the mackenzie astin of at all your. We go deep on facts of life. That was a fascinating time. That was a fascinating time in that. Kid's life to to hop onto a moving train like that season seven. When he was my son's age he was like eleven years old. And yes folks were in the business but he just popped in some way he was the cute little tyke on that show and yeah. He had some amazing stories. Ooh i cannot wait. You said that At a certain point you had you thought you were going to do something else besides acting and then you're like i may as well give it one more shot. Can you talk about that trajectory. A little bit like what were you. What was it that you are pursuing. Well i studied to be a high school teacher. And i did my student teaching high. And what are you going to teach english english and i got an a. For my student. Teaching ithaca high not to brag but got twelve credits for student teaching. I host sane. Now this my god yeah. Do you ever stop patting yourself on the back. I've dropped the name brand. Poseidon number back in eight picasso clearly them flexing pretty weird tonight not to mention how much he brags nice but he's not nice. I am not as nice as tony is. But i felt really good. I kind of went into i went. I graduated with the wind in my sails. And i went back to my old high school which i had actually enjoyed and and and managed to finagle my way into a job now. The catch was that they did not have any positions for an english teacher. They were like listen. We are actually short staffed right now. We have an opening in special education and we have an opening in english as a second language. And we'd like to you to take on a long term sub work in both of those. And i i have no training in either of those and they said we are in such dire need that we can legally hire you off license and you can teach these things for which you are not actually certified so i went in. I went in and taught a semester about half a semester of special ed in half semester english as a second language or did they overlap at semi. It's a while ago. Now this was and i part of me wants to say the high school had changed dramatically but it probably had not changed that much in four years. The difference was i was now on the other side of the desk. And it's weird over there and the other problem was that i was twenty. Two so baby-faced. I'm only five foot. Eight topped off at five foot. Eight in like my senior year of high school i remained five foot eight. So you know those girls. In my my ten tenth grade students females are towering over me at this point and it was just very hard for people to take seriously as a teacher. kid took a at me at one point. I got my. My room is broken into and got tagged all over the place. And i see i still see that kids tag up some places when i'm back home in new york and it drives me crazy. Mean real six you prick was. It was a rough part of town not really know it was it was in chelsea. It had some. Apparently i talked to one of the teachers who had been my teacher. And then was my colleague and he said that that when the school started out it was a young school called the high school for the humanities and started out in nineteen eighty three and i was only in like the third or fourth graduating class and it it started out as this weird school for artistic kids. Who maybe didn't test well enough to get into stuyvesant or maybe didn't audition well enough to get into laguardia but had something to offer and so you it. Was this weird little bohemian enclave. It was zoned school for the theatre district and for the west village right. So you kind of come down or up into this little school on eighteenth street so you would get like people whose parents were hippies or people whose parents were Theater people or just you know. Sort of weird bookish nerds who wandered around reading hitchhikers guide to the galaxy but my dad worked in the paper industry. You know why wasn't necessarily. I was arts adjacent because everybody in manhattan is but my parents didn't do it right but it was No i wouldn't care crisis particularly rough school but the way the main thing is you had to apply to get in there and you had to couldn't just be your zone school. It couldn't just be your local high school. Had to actually go out of your way in eighth and ninth graders say that i want to go there and i did and in the four years that i was gone. They switch it so that all you had to do was just live in the area and so as people who just didn't want to be at that school or any school really and that was that was a big difference so it was and then again. The fact of the matter is now a teacher. There is conspicuously less fun to be a teacher any particular school than it is to be a student there so i did that for one year. And at the end of that year the assistant principal. Who gave me the job. Said we can't afford to keep you on. There's tons of budget cuts. And i said you know what it's actually fine. That's when the band came in. That's when temping came in and that eventually the band broke up and my temp job had turned permanent. And i was writing brochures for a consulting firm and that wasn't going very well i didn't feel like i was good at it but i also felt like the company was actually doing harm to the world. What kind of and they do well. That's the thing they were doing management consulting which means a lot of different things but one of the things. They specialize in human resources restructuring. Which means they would come. In and downsized base right they would get his expendable they would they would cut fat and it's not that i'm anti efficiency but i saw them do a lot of hatchet work and And and fire people who i bet probably could have held onto the job and then the people who remain ended up having their workload doubled. You know it's not it's not always about efficiency. It's about making sure that the people at the top of the company maintain their their houses in new canaan. So so it just felt kinda dirty doing that. And then a friend dared me to take an improv class. And i was so was just really depressed. And just having a miserable time I also endorse better. Help on my podcast. I was in a pretty dark area. And i started taking improv classes and literally one of those things right got up there on the first day. I gotta laugh and i was like i should. I should be honest with myself and and admit this and it was a weird thing because like i. It's such a weird you know it's like it's like i want to be in a rock band tony. You know it's like saying that in public. You know i wanna i wanna be an actor. I wanna be a working musician. You know you sound a little pie in the sky crazy and and you know there are people who support you. But there's just as many people who click their tongues and be like okay. Best the luck because it can look like a fool's errand from the outside and perhaps it is but again the business was very was very welcoming. Had footing what had been your relationship to improv. Prior to that terrible my input my relationship improv had been actively negative. I had done so we had one day a week. When i was teaching special ed they would have a group of nyu students come into the school and these were people who were in the drama therapy program at nyu which is part of tisch. Right and they would come in and they would play theatre games with the kids and it was like my our off a week and and they were all like listen. At least we can do for john. You know he's he's. He's not qualified to teach special ed. He's coming in over his head. But i would come. And i would play these theater games for the kids and i. I just froze up. Got really nervous and it freaked me out and then one time. This is nine hundred ninety three one time. They did that. Horrible horrible game. That i hate to this day where you go out of the room and you come back in and you have to guess from the questions being asked who you are. You're a celebrity. You know that. But he's have to guess who you are. And i came back in and about seven or eight questions and it became very very clear that my students had made me urkel miserable and mad. And why because i. It's it's designed in a way that that i'm not a huge fan of really structured improv games. Either when i eventually start doing improv i was doing that. Sort of loosey-goosey law enforcement right so. I'm not a huge fan of short-form anyway. Because i think it's it's either disastrous or it's good kind of hockey so so i hate it because it it completely plays on the. It's kind of windless. It plays on. The ignorance of somebody in on the team and impromptu me should be sort of communal variance. And that's what i got it. It gets a cheap laugh but also plays to like the deep insecurities. I have of like being perceived as stupid and you are. You're the only person in the room. They know something and that drives me crazy. How do you 'cause. I took some classes. That you cbs. Well how do you feel about like. I'm going gonna throw you an imaginary object and then you're going to throw that to someone like how do you feel about that kind of stuff. Like someone's someone's going to say a word and then you all have to pretend you're holding that object. I think it's it's dorky. And maybe even pretentious and necessary herald starts right with it can it can. There's a few different ways. You can open a herald. But i think i think stuff like that sort of like very overtly. Physical play is really crucial especially at ucla. Because for all it's it's it's you know don't think sloganeering can put you really in your head and they. They put a lot of talking head. Great talking head improvisers out into the world and a lot of those guys have made a terrific living is incredible writers. But i think getting into your body and your head will relax you in a way. That will help. You're seeing work. And if that means yes. You are tossing around invisible. Chicken raised to have. I used to have my students tosseh an infant around. It'd be sure they were supporting the head. The whole time and i would call them out if they were not supporting the head. I as emperor teacher one time. Who called me out an imperfect. I want to call them out his. Name's todd stash wick. He's my dungeon master. That game i mentioned earlier we had a thing. Where if you were drinking like this is me. I mean drinking my improv. Beverage my improv beverage delicious. He would make sure that you remembered while you were doing that. That as you drink that the cups getting lighter coffee getting cooler as you go on. He would like want you so in the environment right that you would like you'd have like furniture in your head after a certain point and as much as that is sounds like sort of a daniel day-lewis approach to act like maybe it sounds a little insufferable. It really helped me relax and get out of my head. Which is where i spend so much of my time. So the short answer is. I think it's it's silly and pretentious valuable. Yeah i struggled with that. I had a class taught by betsy. Stover i love. I love her to god. She she is and when i went in her podcast. We bonded so much. Over the fact that i've been her class. Although i don't think she has any memory that i was in the class but you did. Why mommy drinks. Yes yes. I love the podcast. But she had a student exercise where you get on the ground and she tells you what age you all are and one would allow for everybody. It wasn't for may and so at the point at which we were like three months old or whatever. And i was looking around. And i'm like i was just like goo goo ga could not i could not i i was way too in my head about it and there were people who were really rolling around and being babies and kudos to them. Well that's the thing that i think i think understanding your limitations and not holding it against the people who rolled over and start doing tummy. Time is to your to your credit. You know is absolutely to your credit because there are people who are like this is super lame. Duck you losers and would leave. And you were at that personnel. I salute you for that. Thank you. I tried to stick it out. I just was like. I don't know i wish i did. I also had experience in. Have you ever done group therapy. Speaking of therapy. No no. I haven't i only went twice. That also was not for me but like the the guy who led it would want us to do reenactments. And i also like couldn't i couldn't get into that i'm like i don't know these people i can't and i also have trouble like pretend this pillow is your so and so i could do that a little bit. But in general. I enjoy just conversing more than acting out stuff. Even though i enjoyed performing this is not about me though this is about you know it's i think that's i. I welcome the new perspective. And i had students like that too. Who were just like no. I'm here to be funnier. Thank you very much. And i tried to accommodate them as well. And did you teach at uc be. I did yeah. What classes did you teach used to teach. I used to prefer level one. Because i loved level. One improv. because you've got people who weren't entirely jaded with the system and they weren't all necessarily clamoring to get on a herald team which is now the upper echelon at uc be but what was fun about level one is that you had the the dilettantes the people who were just kind of dipping their toes into see there is the actor. There was a really good looking actor whose agents said he should. Maybe try improv. There is the lawyer who talked his firm into paying for the class for enrichment thing. There's the teacher on sabbatical to whom my heart belonged. Instantly you get the divorce say is gonna scare self. A little bit has characters. In a level went. Improv class was gorgeous. I loved it so much. And and watching them click and surprise themselves which is the tiniest little thing was was really satisfying. I missed that actually. Before the pandemic. I'd gone back to teach. I was teaching a seen steady classic a scripted acting class. Right when everything. Shut down. But i was. I was really enjoying myself. When was thinking throwing back into the level one. But i have no idea what that theater is gonna look like things open up again. So were you parents supportive. They were a. Here's the quick story about my parents. I think they lived in new york city and knew what a risk i was taking going into this line of work and i think they had some legitimate concerns. It is also very hard when your son goes into something as noble as teaching and then leaves. I think there's something a little disappointing in that. And i'm i'm cognisant and understanding of that but the earth story i can tell you about my parents. Is that the first movie i ever did. One scene in the film road trip from two thousand with Tom green brook myers in it. Amy smart. I play a waiter. It's one scene. But i speak and i. It was an uncuttable seen. Because i tell i tell one of the characters dads that. His credit card has been maxed out. And that's what sets act to into motion so you could not cut my seen. The one thing i had going for me is it was. It was protected by the whole structure of the story but when the weekend and opened the night after it opened my mom called me and said she had a bunch of her friends to see the movie and cheered. When i came out on screen my dad went to go see it and said You and the kids were cute. But it's no citizen kane and that's that's that's That's them in a nutshell. That doesn't answer your question. I don't know what to tell you john. Have you speaking of struggle. Have you ever struggled to put on a full strip of false eyelashes. I don't think i need to tell you that it can be a real. It's well here's the thing i am. Someone who definitely will put on individual ashes on the outside. But i never wore a strip lash. Because i don't it's it's overwhelming to me having to put the glue on the whole thing having to get it right against your lashawn. 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My wife has a question was speechless as fun to make as it was to watch it really was it really was. I'm curious the other. Four dads are but it really was It was a delight that was a dream gig on a couple of friends. Because it was. You know you you you look you wanna book a pilot. That's great bookie mas great Your last name is rosen. Yeah if i'd only book the pilot dinu it went to series diana. It was telling stories that we're not being told at all it was it was represented community. That was incredibly undeserved underserved by the media diana and it was really funny. They had an amazing jokes. We had writers on that. Show who had worked on rick and morty and the simpsons and friends and and shows both mainstream and coltie that were really really good. I got incredible jokes on that show and they gave me just enough. I'm creative power. That got toni. Braxton to come on one time and play my drummer band we yeah and we had incredible stars. John cleese played my father-in-law cedric yarbrough. Dad was played by keith. David who had gotta get for the podcast. Now that i'm saying it out loud and other or other bandmate was kyle gass from ti. Wow yeah it was and it was just really just a really funny show. I think we were at said this before but we were not marketed as a really funny show. We were marketed. very heartwarming. Show which was something we did but it was something we would do occasionally and we would quickly undercut it with something ridiculously funny and i loved that about the show. I think it. It walked a really nice line but yeah it was an absolute blast to work on. And i appreciate him keeping the flame going for that show. Jonathan feldman says if he could have been a part of a special musical episode for any of the normally nonmusical. Tv shows he has been a part of. Which would it be. that's interesting. I think we talked about doing. We did a couple of musical numbers on on speechless. Actually and that was fun. they're hard. They're hard they take. They take longer to shoot than regular scenes but off the top of my head. I feel like children's hospital would have been a really fun place to do. A musical immutable episode. If they did i was not in it they would have music throughout. And i wrote a bit one time where megan mulally saying. Because she's she started out on. Broadway teamed waste and not. Let her sing. But i think that off the top of my head i think A a musical episode of children's hospital would have been the most fun. That's a great question. So do you have just mere. Everyone you know i do think is just everyone. I'm realizing it's very specific to this industry. And and maybe this podcast keep asking people what it was like working on these individual projects that they've worked on so now in a place. Now where i i'm. I'm so distant from the tv shows that. I'm watching. where if i see someone like running up a fight steers on a show. My first thought is god. That character has to get up the stairs. My first thought is actually. How many times do you have to do that. How many times that actor have to take those stairs. Two at a time because that looks exhausting. So it's taken me out of it a little bit. Because i've been i've been going. I do a lot of homework for my as you clearly do too. I do a lot of homework before these interviews. And i watch end up watching so many cop shows if you're interviewing character actors. Ask me anything about bosch. He's gotta did mom. He's trying to solve the case. I watch and bracelet. Yes and he hated the roses sleeves up show tattoos and the the the upper echelon cops don't like the boss has tattoos but which interview where you watch bosch for. I was watching bosch for spencer garrett. I was watching bosch for brooke smith. I was watching bosh for a third one. That's escaped my mind. Bosch has employed a ton of my cats because again. It's a cop show that needs interesting. People read shoots here in l. a. Know they don't shoot a new yorker atlanta so vancouver. God help you. So it's all local character actors on that show. There's a few. There's a few on my must book lists if it wasn't for the fact that he was number one on the show titled be fantastic. I'm hesitant he might still be outta these household name. I don't know you would either of your parents know who had as well over is. I don't think so all right. But i don't think that they would know. Yeah adam reveal on your must book list or is that private no. I'll put it out there. Because i'm trying to like the word out that these are people. I'm hunting down. There's an acronym. Bill camp bill camp taught taught the young girl how to play chess in queen's gambit and before that he was on the night of he shows up in used to work a ton in boston because he was at the american repertory theater. He's up there. Bob man an from all that christopher guest movies and he also services jon voight in midnight cowboy in a very famous scene. Keith david c. C. h. pounder. I wanna get beady wong. I lom. I'd love to get going through my sharon agent with ming-na now win. I'm trying to get her in on this but also like being surprised. I also have a few people who have landed in my lap. I had a great talk with derek. Mears who has played both swamp thing and jason. In the friday the thirteenth reboot. This is an actor who doesn't actually talk much on camera but has fascinating incredible stories and did all this stuff about the way children process grief when he was gearing up to play jason voorhees that was made for a great interview and he's not necessarily not somebody who would necessary would have hunted down. But i'm so glad i did we. We had. We had a great talk. So is your just mere everyone that you're you get taken out of the same when you're watching something because you're thinking about the mechanics of how it's done. I'm thinking about the actual making of this. Tv or film. That really you know. And god help me if it's raining in the scene because i'm automatically like happy accident or spray actors. I don't think that's just you. I find that. I get taken out of a lot of non scripted reality shows where they're talking to camera because i've done a fair amount of talking to camera stuff and so i just imagined i'm like that's too clever. That line was sped to them. That's i have always and like my husband will get especially vander pump. Rose he'll get very into it and he's like you know wants to assess like which specific personality disorder. Each character has and i'm just thinking like he's probably right but also so much of this is is the editing. Yeah and they're also doing that talking head thing. They're speaking in the present tense even though you know. They shot it afterwards. Yes also yanks top chef with with the quickness and lego masters for that matter which i which. I'm a big booster. I know that you need to go. I have one more question here before. Why did the student punch you. O- tr- by the way student truck swastika. Swing at me connected. I doubt i would be speaking in full sentences right. This kid was huge. He was going running down the hallway kicking all the doors and he actually kicked in the lower panel. My door and i got very upset and very mad. And i said young man. What's your name actually said. Young man trying to alpha myself and he flipped me off over shoulder and i went up to him and i grabbed his backpack. He just turned. I felt the wind of his fist. Go and did. I gotta done shanta pulled back and i honestly think he was just there to scare me. If he'd meant to contact chances are he would have contacted and again. I'd be eating through a tube right now but he was very large. This man never saw again for. I know that was. He left the building and never came back. It was like march. And i still had three months left to teach that place but it shook me up. Yeah and now. Granted should not have left. My classroom should not have touched his book bag. Those are on me and aphid. Come down to something. There's just so much the teacher's union good done for me. Because i was not where i was supposed to be as stan. My room but But yeah it was scary. I don't recommend it getting having someone trying to punch you. I'll try to avoid that. Thank you for this. Tip this attitude. That one's free if you guys like what you're hearing please make sure you're subscribed or following and whenever you're listening to this in so that the episodes are are there automatically. And you don't miss when also you can check this out on youtube dot com. Slash alison rosen. And if you like. You're hearing please make sure to leave us. A nice comment. Tell your friends the the show a lot put into a quick plug for five stars. That was my favorite number. And what am i. What am i forgetting. I'm on cameo. Follow me on social media. At alison rosen on twitter and instagram. You can send in your own mirror. Everyone's tweet them to at air. I y nba hashtag J. m. o. E. and john tell everyone where they can find you where they can find your podcast etc. What we should all be looking out for. I'm on instagram john. Ross bowie and the podcast has an instagram and twitter page at household faces. And i've been dabbling in tick-tock. But i might be too old for it did you. Were you at one point on twitter and then left or were you on i so i left twitter last year because it was bad for janis mental health. I yeah and john. Giannini did take a little johnny time. And i feel thirty to thi