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Aaron Nesmith Shows Promise as Celtics Beat Nuggets
"Start with tonight. Again. You had a few things going on. The number one again. We could easily run through the most important things that happened the game, but it's really hard not to look at this and say that this was kind of like the irony Smith game and not because he played great. I thought he was pretty okay, but he did he was the first guy off the bench that matter. He played 23 minutes A lot of people were saying maybe he was rewarded for his effort you suck cuz he was running around like crazy. He still looks pretty tentative and lost at times but like he's trying and this is what we talked about. It's not that Arnie Smith and we were arguing about this on our thread all day. He's not that are inducements birth. Then the players out there. You're not better than SAM-e. He's not but you want him to be you gotta give him a shot. You gotta live and learn with a little bit. I'll take an effort like this every single time if he's out there totally imperfect choice at times he disappeared but I mean nothing just nothing but positives off of tonight. I don't think yeah. Definitely I mean, but I'm with you I mean and think he looks amazing out there, but he took a little more comfortable than we've seen them before in the past, right and also think that the rest of his teammates are starting to realize okay like the starting to look for him now more often and I think a lot of that has to do with his effort. I mean you putting effort on the defensive end of the floor or specially in the game against the Denver Nuggets, you know, I think that that went a long way and I think they rewarded him they were looking for him for open shots and credit to him. He wasn't afraid to to take those so much credit to the rookie but I mean is this Thursday? I'm now if this like the the rotation we this is the something just fix it was it is this all it took for everyone to just Panic real quick. And then this other come out here and beat the Nuggets and now all the problems are solved no, come on.
"arnie i" Discussed on The Flop House Podcast
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"arnie i" Discussed on The Flop House Podcast
"The attempt to like do coming of age like a coming of age story or like coming into your powers has been done so many times and so many others or coming into bears. But like i mean after after seeing spiderman into the spider i hold on. I'm sorry i gotta stop dan. It's the other way around. It's not coming into bears rings calm in getting out of bears that bear. Yeah you want to get all the come out of that same thing the something like spiderman into the spider various where we see miles morales like a leap of faith like and it actually elicits a movie that actually elicits an emotional response. It feels. it's just. It's like to see the warmed-over warmed-over warmed-over version of that yeah Is is pretty lame. So i don't know. I feel like i'd say bad bad. Just because i like it just washed over being is going to be forgotten. I i sorta did kind of like it. It's it was weird. I think i would almost like. Is there a category. That bad good not bad to be entertaining like it's almost worse than being good bad because because there just wasn't enough of the sort of joy of how bad it was and mostly what pulled me through was being like hypothetically i like a lot of this stuff but it's an movie. It's almost as empty that weird hospital. It's just like there's not enough in it now bears. Yeah the both bears are too small. The yeah i think i actually i feel like arne. You have done this. Podcast a service because we have been dancing around this idea for fucking years the idea of a movie that is well made enough but is clearly bad like a bad good mufi like it's not actually interesting enough to be a good bad. Yeah no no. It's the problem is not the production or the or the logic or anything like that. It's just a certain solis. Nece that comes with being sent back by the studio to remake the movie several times. Yeah and i like. I like the arne put it because while watching it. I did invoke a philosophy that we've espouse on the show a few times which is if this movie was a better movie. This movie would be good. So are you saying that. I'm kind of like the danny of this podcast. A stranger who comes in and sort of brings something out of everybody torment us with our past traumas and eats doctor..
"arnie i" Discussed on The Flop House Podcast
"Like i. I'm like oh she just scratcher but later on we see race and she's like ripped to shreds do freddie krueger and a half he's like holding her innards in with her arm. Yeah so they think they got the jump honor and raise instead traps them. Enforced bubbles look terrible. Say is a terrible fact glowing like Like star trek bubbles and she slowly smoshing danny and smashing them all in these bubbles while giving some kind of a speech about how. I don't know like there are too powerful live or something and they should have been more respect for something now i want to. I want to briefly defend. Not this scene or the bubbles which do look terrible but the character of sicily arabia's in the comic books what sets her apart from the others is she is a good person who does not want to be a superhero and just wants to be a doctor and so i felt like they were really slandering character by making her so incredibly evil. When in the comics she is the most reasonable character in the entire marvel universe. She's like okay. I can make force fields. But like i can probably help people more by being trauma surgeon than than by like fighting mister sinister. Who gets hinted at in this movie but we never actually see. Maybe they wanted to user because they're like we need at least one superpower that we can actually depict in this movie because every other even like even even here wolf transformation to depict almost any of the powers in this movie very well which is one of the bigger problems i think. Yeah i mean. I don't know if it's because they chose characters that are hard like i don't know if they chose ileana. Rasputin if the script originally had like shadow cat or something. That's why lockheed's there but then they're like. Oh we got anna taylor choice. She'd be perfect for this role. I dunno such a great russian accent. Her resume says russian accent. So this perfect. Do we need to hear the accent. I try it out. no no. She's great did you see queen's gambit. It's not yet. But i saw an early cut of many tastic. And then she gets on certain like yeah. This is my accent. And they're like oh boy. Okay so straight and emma dot chilly. Great in this again. Great actor really good humiliated and lots of great in the witch. She's really stop. This but this accent does not thoroughbreds. Very very good And and the split glass averse right. Yeah so yeah so. Racism in bubbles. She slowly muslim. and then what's that. there's no outside. it sounds like a wind. The war gets ripped open. And there's a giant team and bear there and the demon bear totally scarfs down ray. As just like in deep blue sea is awesome. It is just we talk about. Let's talk a little bit about this team. Embarrass their few thing dan. Let's not. Let's talk about muppets again. We'll dan in the thing is everyone wants to bears living inside meant to be up to the audience interpretation. But do we think that's a good or a bad bear out now. I think it's insignificant bear who becomes kind of a good bear. Well she says she also has it here is later. She says that the two bears. You decide what you feed them. That's the empowering message of the movie is you can feed the bad bear with your fears and your hatred or you can feed the good bear with love. And that's the the one that gets stronger feed so maybe she feeds it a bunch of love and that's why it turns into a good bear. No she doctor here. That's a bad doctor. So makes it into a good bear. This is confusing. I guess in every bear there are two bears a good bear in bad bear and depending on which one is getting of getting its tummy scrape at the moment. That's how it goes. Dan's it's all bears all the way down. everything's to avoid back no Bears the bears. Also stare into you. Yeah yeah that's what my buddy verner haired success. He says this to pales in every party. Little pig bail character people. That's the from grizzly man. I've oh yeah it's me my power checking out. The ten hottest spring bake beaches today on ease hottest spring break beaches hosted by me her. So danny at this point is passed out in the teams left. Louis fucking dean. I want to talk about this. Barrowman number one. I genuinely liked the look of despair. I like the the demonize. I like the way the for kind of coils interest. Smoke like a it gets indistinct on the edges. But i do think that there's a weird thing that movie is always do. Which is they like you know. Put a little too Too much sugar in the sauce or something like it doesn't. I think this bear would have been much more scary if it was just maybe slightly bigger than a real grizzly bear and just a little more like just a solid thing that a human mind you know has some sort familiarity with it. 'cause this big albeit cool looking bear i'm just like okay. Well this is cgi and if it was a little more like fantastic but down to earth. I would have been a lot more frank by Let's see. I have to disagree with you there because i think i like this bear a lot but i think they do they are on the side making it look too much like a real bear and i wish i wish it had more of that. Bill savage feel of being kind of like semi abstract and scratchy and hard to to wrap your mind around. But i mean the different vendors different cares. No elliott elliott. I think you make a good point. And i think maybe the problem is. It's neither fish nor fowl. They it should have gone one way or the other they show some of the original drawings are at least re-creations of them during the credits as if to say like see good work bill. Savage did the did the during the credits to all the character. Art surprisingly involved. Yeah yeah give that man money please. So danny's passed out and of course she's pass out of the party and she invited this fucking demon bear that everyone else has to deal with. So they spirit danny away. Rain takes her along over to the She takes danny into the abandoned church ileana decides. Hey it's time for me to use my powers i'm magical. So she pulls out her sword and starts flipping around jumping flipping cut in at the bare. Sam tries to help He starts blasting bear toe eventually decides to use his powers and he burns his clothes off and then he briefly fights the bear before getting smashed. And it's great. They all get to use their powers. They all kind of come together and then danny eventually wakes up and calms down the demon bear and pats. It snows.
"arnie i" Discussed on The Flop House Podcast
"Up one more small grievance about make i've got. This is the problem i have with make is that. It seems as if the movie is not made for people like me who is made for and yet is not made for people like it seems to be. Here's a movie for people who are really interested in behind the scenes assistant kane but if you know about the behind the has cain you will not you will not like what you see like man anyway. So that's merriman is the new mankiewicz That's my version of bank. Where every edited and re cut it. It's me playing. Gary oldman part. Since i'm closer to manx actual age than gary. Oldman is so. Yeah the whole the whole place fields rundown and abandoned but there are a few few like high risk what if this is called the new muppets and it was all the muppets got kicked off like the host of that. That muppets live. Show whatever the weird humanoid robot and being bunny like all the muppets that were never. That ocular caribbean muppet was from tonight and loves night. That's one thing who's the host them up. Its tonight and then they just kind of like. This isn't working outlets. Let's what if it was that. Would it be better. Are you asking me yet. Oh okay Let's see. I care what were what were the second and third movie and the muppets trilogy out that there's no reason not to. I'd like to point out. Stewart that if it suddenly becomes allowed to not care about bullshit than our entire podcasts. Yeah housing cards was just gonna crumble to the ground and by crumble. I don't just mean the cards are gonna fall. Cards will crumble to do so. We meet the other. We meet the other inmates slash patients. The kind of form like a weird little support group for the most part these kids just kind of hang around and occasionally sit around and chairs and like share their stories and listen to dr as we have. Rain played by man. I didn't write that down. She's from gema throats. We have rain. Who's like a wolf girl. she's sympathetic. She's got a scottish accent. We have elliot's maisy william. Thank you. We have ileana. Rasputin who is the lord of limbo. She's bitchy she's russian Well i think literally could not figure out why her i didn't hear her name. I didn't figure out what character she was supposed to be until later. Because i could not unravel the accent. Oh yeah i can eat with that. I've taylor joy i think is just trains fixing like a great actor. I've loved her in basically everything here. I'm like i don't blame her. I blame the director. Who heard that russian accent. Yeah go with that like this is such a. It doesn't sound like anything at all and there are a lot of the part of the reason. Why blame the director. Is there multiple. Weird accents like the kid from stranger. Things has the broadest like appalachian accent which is like. It's actually kind of okay. The quieter scenes but as soon as he gets mad. He's like well he might as well be blowing in a jug the whole time. Dancing in which side are you on the movie or less mutants aggressive accent choices. Their power is the power to caricature actual regional dialects and sounds on your taylor joy. I think they would have another thing. Where in the comics billion is the younger sister of colossus the russian x man and i think they probably should have just cut the cord and made her russian-american and with an american accent because it does not. It doesn't help her to have this kind of like it's not even it would have been better way over the top and it was like a like a boris bad nov squirrel. Type type russian accent instead. It's just kind of like a sounds like a teen girl who is trying on a persona you know. Even though she him for a second just had a character say oh she's russian like one nine and i'm like okay. I can kind of hear it. But i was literally spend fifteen minutes in this movie trying to figure it out. The she's kind of like the troublemaker. Bad boy the group which my wife pointed out it makes it weird that she was the one selected to give danny the around the place like she clearly didn't want the job l. I assume that was a punishment on the part of dr. Like you're being also. Oh here's my problem. Guys accident aside. How are we not talking about how she is. Puppet named lockheed who's a little dragon lockheed is shadow cat straggling janas best friend. What is this all out suddenly lost. You brought that up. I did come from limbo right. Like that's where Kitty pryde encountered lockheed. Honestly don't bring lucky back. And then sort of kitty like inherited. Lucky i the because they. I think they went to. I'm trying to remember when they first went to limbo and fought balasko But they had gone there before. Yana was a character. I'm not sure about that. Okay well i mean this is all nonsense that subset of people who listen to our show but if you're watching mink get ready for some problems if you're watching this get ready for some historical errors and circle area. Here is that lockheed is kitty pryde dragon. Although the does the muppet that is magic have a human on her hand up version. I think the dragon is probably What's his name. Uncle deadly The actual kind of drag character and miss piggy of course would be eliana but she's not like a castoff muppet. She's the one big name up that they bring in for the movie To like so the real muffin aficionados have to be in there and say okay. Okay i looked it up all right. Kitty yes. Kitty found lucky but andrew. It was a little kid. He's dragging mostly but lockheed occasionally accompany is iliana after she joins the x pins junior team the new mutants. So this this actually this would be appropriate to the comic ileana. Uh all right. I'll i'll allow it. Okay this is not what i would call an esa bank situation where i don't have a good argument okay. Who and what are the other. Thank you so we're halfway through our mutant descriptions we have we have sam. Who has the mutant power to canon ball all over the place. He's kind of a blue collar guy from kentucky. He's quiet brooding has a very. Let's say aggressive accent. Yeah i think earning best. So when he isn't being quiet he is. You know you know. He's under brother from stranger things. Have we mentioned that. I don't think he's constantly talking about being in the minds in kentucky constantly black never stops talking about being in the mines He's like madeline. And then we have roberto. Who is a young brazilian guy. He's kind of a rich macho jock character. Who it's clearly if assad he doesn't want people getting too close so they don't get burned up literally. Yeah i agree that these are things that happened okay. So we're introducing these characters seconds cast of characters motion carried and proceed. Who's in the movie during your tour. Danny tries to run away. She tries to get out of there. Of course she runs right into an invisible wall. There's a force field around the whole place. The the clumsy shorthand during this tour where they walk outside and immediately ileana takes a Take some like spray. Paint out of a hiding place and starts like she's going to do some graffiti. You're my look at and like wow shorthand for bad girl right like very quick so danny then has a flashback to about ten minutes ago from the opening sequence of the movie she then climbs to the top of the abandoned clock tower. She appears to be contemplating suicide and then rain shows up. And they have a little chat and bonding and then they like fall down the floor and hug go off the clock tower onto the back. There is a step in between where they went back inside. They're all the kids are being observed. The as i said the high tech security systems are doing biometric. Scans on everybody to tell us. How mutant they are. We're told the kids are all told that if they complete the treatment that they're going to be able to leave possibly graduate joined the x men and the dr ray has has.
"arnie i" Discussed on The Flop House Podcast
"Men but But i'd forgotten all of it. And i guess the stands alone but i do think it would confuse people why all this was happening but anyway you guys go elliot. You look like say well i. So the thing is my experience with communes has in the comics has been the conflicted one. Because when i was growing up the new mutants was over pretty much and they had already transformed into the much cooler x force led by and instead of like instead of wolf's bane the goody two shoes you had feral and cannonball was still in there but you know like shatter star was in there with his double sword blades in his double ponytails. You got to everything shatter star. Even the word shattering star kind of sound like ours. And we'll we'll ponytails. Pigtails is that no because they both came out of the back in the same. I don't know dude anyway. So it's so. The new has always seemed to be kind of like a when i was growing up was like oh these the dull characters that turned into the crazy like teen hormone explosion that is experts but the delivery system because when there's nothing teams more than guys covered in pouches and open those pouches lines. That don't seem to indicate anything they wrinkles. I don't know when i was thirteen. I loved that. Some kimmy more little lines and looking back now. It is hilarious. Just how ridiculous the like. It's under edible. But the i've gone back and reread some of the new mutants ones from that run. And they're good but they just kind of like don't I don't know what it is. They don't grab me. The way that like claremont uncanny x men ronrico routes excalibur run or I mean excalibur. It's alan davis the secret weapon on that title but The so watching this movie. I was like oh like danny moon stars a character. I've never felt much connection to. Dan will not change that and watching. You're like oh they made the least engaging one of these people the the central character. I was watching. It did feel like i didn't know the x. men movies. I'd be really lost in this but it also had no. I wouldn't have a connection to it. But i do know the extent of doctor cecelia ray shows up. I'm like wait a minute. That's not the way that characters portrayed in the comic books. Stu what are you. What are your feelings. I worked my way backwards through the new mutants starting with x force And i remember really liking some of the stuff when they would the crossovers with the x men the annuals where they would go to asgard dany moon star becomes one of the valkyries. I thought that stuff is all great and also it had art by art adams which is great and i always had a huge crush growing up huge crush on magic. Because she's awesome and like a weird brat sword slinging dimension hopping monster and. I don't know. I don't know if that character is totally translated to the to the movies but whatever now i mean that's one of the reasons i like new mutants too because i remember reading the magic. Limited series guy can't catapulted me into that allo. Hi this is elliott kaelin interrupting the show. I know what else is new anyway. I'm talking to you from the future. Compared to what you were just listening to but the past compared to where you are right now listening you might have noticed that the connection Earlier between us our guest was kind of bad earlier in the episode thankfully. From this point on we're able to correct it using the power of technology and also our editor jordan cowling and so we now return to the slightly better sounding. End half rest of the episode of new mutants. You've already been listening to thank you. I was very drawn to the new mutants. I think from the covers as a. I was kind of just young enough that i was really into like warlock the robot who i guess which was era. He is an alien robot like genetic robot. Say he's techn- organic ganic. Being in mutant is that on his world. They are naturally aggressive and hostile but he is friendly and so he's like He's like a programming mutant. That's how they that's how they got him. In the group that way i prefer to stammer on for about a minute. Trying to figure out how to explain what warlock each their own i apologize. Let's do it your way. He was definitely one of my favorites in the new mutants. Sad that he was not in this kind of nod to it with the elyria arm. No that's i mean that that's her armor that she has in the comics. Are they originally at one. Point wanted warlock in this but it was going to be too expensive so the plan was introduced him in the sequel. Where the new mutants go zil that sequel was not made and then apparently the third was going to be the inferno comic book story which would have been called. Well he would have been really interesting to see how they do inferno with nut they cannot have a lot of the characters that are central to inferno. Because they're ex may characters you know unless they bring it back. I don't know where we have. The maybe they'll have the hobgoblins become an actual monster like he didn't stories. That was great. I mean again. That's a different company has has the spiderman movies. But you know. I mean they're all they're all disney. Now let's do it. Let's see it happened. But he's this man villain. Does that mean that. Sony has the rights to him. It is exactly and so the mcu only gets you spider man. That's why venom has his own. His own spinoff series. I guess hob goblin would turn into a demon an inferno in the venom movies. Which would be a strange distortion of the original actual history. That happened but i'm still up for it. So our movie opens with danny moon star giving us a little bit of a monologue about how every human being has to bears. Living inside is that true is because that good things come and bears. That's i'm dan do have to stop sticking your hand down bears as mouths and into their butts..
"arnie i" Discussed on The Flop House Podcast
"I'll be telling you more about the show later in this show. Let's get back to this. Alaria sneak camp bit. So i wanted to keep it short because it's perilously close to just make fun of someone's name which i don't want to but i will say wait. Wait when did. When did you start wanting to do that. I don't i mean i. I do a lot of name puns. I wouldn't call them like making fun of further down this road. It might turn into that. Perhaps you don't remember the old etiquette rule saying upon his still making fun as a kid. Definitely people always said camp. Do you can't and i'm realizing as an adult. I think the reason people often think my name is nike. Is they're like well it can't it can't be knee camp right and That would be absurd. What what kind of a name would that be. As if as if nike is any less of like there's that there's some kind of abstract value that is greater than knee. Camp like names can't sound like words. Well hell impossible. I mean like it's do you think it's that people would think like no adult would ruin their child's life by naming them are knee camp. Oh that's very that's the thing. And somehow i didn't even like i think i didn't discover how dumb that was for a lot of my life because i as a child. I was focused on how close to ernie it was latched onto that. I was calling me and then there's a long period of my life where everyone would assume it was every close to arnie like there are a lot of not common but just suddenly james than ernie'll and ernie and Yeah so then. Then i realized arnie kneecap is horrible to say now. Why don't you just run them together. And be army camp. Just be like a one word. Like a madonna or a share or a prometheus. You know just a one word name icons i don underneath. I wanna stop talking about your name and actually start talking about your work. How does mean. I only had like the one hit. I don't think it's fair to put it in. The mayer is a big hit still and it's not fair to judge him against the records of of recording artists who were not chained to a rock so that vulture can rip their liver out every day. It's going to impede your work. Yeah let's talk about your work army. I just wanted to ask. How does it feel to know The the light enjoy and And saving that has come into people's lives through jack box games during this pandemic. Because i know that. I certainly have played more of them during this time and danza. Huge game now. I am become a gamer. Except for the ones you like. Dan said he heard about this game or a gate and he wanted to go through on attracted him but else on one of the things. I ever wanna talk about. Oh let's actually talk about your work. Then yeah isn't it. Does it feel like now. People have to play my games than they love them. Been working jack box for like fifteen years now and there were definitely which is where it not given that it would stay then you know like And we sort of made seven. I guess party packs now thirty. Some games And it's kind of incredible. It's sort of slowly star at more and more people aware of it over the last couple of years and then yeah kind of exploded During a pandemic now with them much time jack box. Do you think it's safe to say that you do jack. Watching stewart cross that off from his pre written jokes john. You're saying you're saying jackets stewart's just came and started like ramming stewart as if to say like it's something wrong to a cat trying to take the keys away from somebody. Yeah so so. You're saying you don't know jack. i i used to. There were periods. Where i really felt like back and but i'm always constantly reminded that that it's a life launch to know jack. Yeah he's he's one of those share and rolls. That's enough nonsense. Thanks so much for coming on the show We've been wanting to have you on for a while We love hello from the magic tavern. I think elliott ni- both in lucky enough to be guests on that program and so it's great to have you on here now. Why did you say. I want to be on this show new mutants. That's the key to my enjoyment of the flop house talk you know i will say first of all. I didn't just pull new mutants out of like world of moviegoing. Sure okay was definitely my my favorite of the ones presented to me. And also i legitimately was looking for an excuse to watch this movie. Because i i was kind of all on board with the idea of it. I wasn't like an intense. Like a and county book reader but i definitely went through new mutants phase and the whole of a new mutants comic book like in combined with horror. Seemed like to me and then a lot of things happened and then eventually it came out and i was less excited about seeing it. Eventually it came out. I feel like is a truncated version of the troubled production. History of this movie the mo- the movie had like the kind of production history and a normal movie has has just yet drawn out over a much longer period of time. And it's interesting when you watch the movie that you're watching you're like oh this is not just jump into. This is the movie that they had to keep going back and remaking it. I didn't want to skip ahead to like final judgments. But that was what i kept asking myself too. Because i'm like there are movies like not. This is particularly great. We'll get we'll get to it but like there are movies far worse than this that they just toss on screen without thought like like with like advertising budgets and everything and i was like what was it about this one that they're just like we gotta keep working on it. They're a my guess. Is that so there is. I was reading up a little bit about this. And so this was. I think very much seen as like this is going to be the way that fox holds onto or twentieth century holds onto the x. Men license that the last few x men movies were kind of running out of steam. Time for some new mutants. If you will and the people made it wanted it to be a horror movie and the studio did not and then the last x. Men movie and it was supposed to tide more directly into x men apocalypse. The next apocalypse did do elsewhere. Like take all the x men apocalypse stuff out. And then they're like but we don't want to be harvey and then the trailer for it came out. Apparently and the trailer was such a big hit that there were like a hard movie again so it was really like the studio is really chasing. What they thought would be That the hottest version of this movie and not not letting the filmmakers just get to a regular tale of new mutants run around the hospital being chased by silent hill monsters hot off of the of the trailer. They were like making a trailer. You lighting ninety two minutes out of this. I kept reading. How the director would like send the trailer to people. And they'd be like you got it. You nailed it and be like. How can you tell from the trailer like that built. Cabbage was like you did it based off the trailer. And it's i don't know but i say this having I was on twitter earlier today. And saw the teaser for the king kong vs godzilla trailer. And it's like man how much how much pre selling is the trailer gonna have to have. And then i watched the trailer and i was like no. Yeah this is what i can conference. Godzilla would look like fighting zilla by adam lingered. It's crazy is he. Related to jason wingard aka mastermind of the hellfire club and the brotherhood of evil mutants. An x men character. I dunno dan. What were you gonna say a segue as good as i don't think so but say well no. I guess that is kind of a good segue. Because i was going to ask two questions number one. What what's sex no number one. What did you guys. History with. The new mutants. If any and do you how do you think this would play to someone who has no association with the comic or the extended like mutant averse like i. I will quickly say. I know that i read the stories of this was based on like i because i read the claremont sin kevin which period of immune so i really liked those spin-offs That excalibur at the time. I enjoyed almost more than x. men but But i'd forgotten all of it. And i guess the stands alone but i do think it would confuse people why all this was happening but anyway you.
Complexity Is The Enemy of Revenue: Why Its Time to Shave The Marketing Dog
"Another mindset that i like is to ask yourself rigorous ruthlessly with every execution. Does this whatever this is this ad. This press release this webinar this this new product. Whatever this is does this materially multiply our chances of achieving the outcome we want does this component of our plan our execution materially multiply our chances of achieving the outcome. We want from this marketing activity. And if it doesn't shave doggy down. Why are we doing it now. I also know that Marketing gets pushed around a lot. We're one of the functions in a business that gets more help than most others because everybody thinks they're a fucking marketing expert and so of course. The ceo has an opinion and the head of sales as it opinion often. The head of arnie or engineering or product has an opinion The cfo sometimes as everybody has an opinion. And sometimes we end up Marketing can end up feeling like a service bureau doing shit to make people happy. Be very careful about this. On one hand keeping some folks happy might not be a dumb thing on the other hand. This is a slippery slope. Most marketers are doing too much shave. The dog shave that dougie down practice getting everything out. Consider getting even more radical one of my friends and mentors a legend in silicon valley named rick bennett He was the one of the original ad guys ad. Copy guys for. Larry ellison as well for Mark bank and many others. He is known in silicon valley as the marketing assassin that entrepreneurs and marketers turn to when they wanna make a legendary outcome happen and he is a very interesting perspective. And i'm paraphrasing him. he's been on. Follow your different. And i'm hoping to have him back on lock on marketing soon. But he's a very interesting perspective he says. I want to treat my clients dollars like their their last dollars. And they're hiring me to run an ad. Can i create one ad. That makes this business. Go with one ad. Could it be the tipping point for success for the company. And you may argue. That isn't possible. maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. I think rick would argue. It is but what i do know is. It's a great mindset. Imagine we were going to do one thing and one thing only and the entire future success of the company hinged on that one thing if that was true. Here's what i know we as marketers. We would focus fucking hard on making that one thing legendary and so adopt this mindset. You probably can't make forty th forty-seven legendary but you could make one. Maybe two maybe three maybe five or six but be ruthless I'd also encourage you for inspiration. There's a company that i have A fallen in love with lately called thousand helmets and their pioneering. A new category of fashionable functional about obviously a highly capable helmets. Eh focused more on the mobility. The new emerging mobility market and less on the traditional biking market. Anyway check out a thousand helmets website. It's tight super tight. You could tell they shaved that dougie down. It's simple powerful clear compelling and differentiated. This is what we're looking for. Simple powerful and different is hard often as marketers. Not only do we do too much. We say too much that is to say we agree to too much internally from our people from other folks etc and i would occur. You remember every yes comes with a massive time energy creativity and financial cost. Everything we agree to do comes at a focus cost. That is to say we're moving focus from one area to another practice saying no practice saying no shave the dog get it down. Simple tight shave that complexity is the enemy of revenue and on our next episode. We're going to dig into a marketing execution. Called the multiplier effect. How we take the small number of things we're gonna do and use each one of them. Multiply the value of the next
Pharmacist allegedly had false belief vaccine would change DNA
"Pharmacist, meanwhile, convinced the world was crashing down, told police he tried to ruin hundreds of doses of Corona virus vaccine because he thought the shots would mutate People's DNAs to That, according to court documents released Monday, a detective riding in a probable cause statement that does Stephen Brandenburg is an admitted that conspiracy theorist. He appeared in court Monday. Law enforcement was alerted to this on December 30th by or hospital. Detect this. Other one really discussed this with one of their investigators who Ford them an email from the defendant where He gave a statement that he'd removed these miles from refrigeration. He done so in two occasions is intent on doing so was to render them inert because he'd formed this belief that they were unsafe. But the Arnie Method of creating these medications rendered them unsafe. Mr Brandenburg in order you released on a $10,000 signature bond. While you're subject to the terms and conditions of bail set by this court, you are not to, uh, work or be employed in any health care related function, including serving as a pharmacist. Also not to have any contact with Aurora. Or any of your Aurora co workers. Misinformation around the vaccines has surged online with false claims circulating on everything from ingredients toe possible side effects.
Episode 41 FTN Watches A Movie Part 1: Cruel Jaws - Drive Of The Week
"Introduction long as we're here. Yes. Yes every episode we start with the driver the week. If you don't know what a drive is. It is a line from a movie or TV show said with exceptional velocity and volume and the stage belongs to mister Klein. All right, ladies and horror fuckers. What we have here is the 1983 Stephen King horror. Flick Christine. This is a classic one for me. It's grown up kid because it was one of the few R-rated movies was able to watch which shockingly because it's got so much bad language in this and there is a lot of drives in this and it was hard to pin-point flash drive to use is there is one point where a character just goes black for no reason, but I chose this one because there's always a reason yeah and the reason which is not the third reason but the reason off there to drive right back to back and it is it's checked estimate. So so here is to drives of the week from the Motion Picture film Christine off. I care about you. Like I love you lie, but I think we deserve one more try. Don't you give me a fucking ass? Hello, Arnie, please don't do this to me wanting to speak with me. Okay, you've had right? Or fuck you, bitch, just like they were burning Arnie. Please don't do this tickets pissed off drops the fuck you bitch stay with me that you've had it, right? Well, fuck you bitch. And then we anything about it runs back to the phone. I'm sorry. I'm sorry wrong with me. Okay, you've had right? Or fuck you, bitch. Come on, Lee expects her to still be on page other than kids today won't know that if you if you're slammed the phone down hard enough, it actually bounced and didn't hang up. So the other person might actually still be on the other line. It's true. That is true. But that's pretty much after you do the exact you bitch and she assumes you hang up. She's not going to hang around that kind of thing is so easily misunderstood, you know, don't like is it I'm just saying this isn't really that clear what he means right? Well, there's stuff. He just wanted a yes or no and you can't really fault them there and just yesterday. I think we give me a fucking no. I mean just because you make it because a lot of pressure is Dad is you know, Rodney Dangerfield and right right, right. He's gotta make that swim team. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was the driver of the week brought to you by Trashman media for all the latest DVD and Blu-ray commentary go to trash man media and also on Facebook and Twitter. I feel good to check out www.cbs.com latest news and no bulshit. All right. So we're going to
"arnie i" Discussed on How Did This Get Played?
"Okay. I actually agree with that one. S Although I worked under in that underground facility would be so pissed that we keep all these vats of give. More powers. was maybe. We're wrong. It's time for the question block. Are. This one is from acorn Aho on twitter rogue likes Metro Vanya and battle, royale seemed to dominate the market lately. What do you typically look for in such games to differentiate them from the rest or rather what unique aspects Dryer attention to one particular game when there seemed to be so many similar ones. Ice. All. I'll. I'll say that you know those are those are very different genres which I'm sure. The the question senators aware of but I, but like I I saw battle royale is just like something I've never messed around with anyone anyone else played with battle Royale at all I've done some pudgy. Mike I'll my answer to this question. I would love to go go for it nick. My answer can be about battle Royale, in general. I will say that you know Metro Venus of those is is the Genera that I that I respond to the most although I do like rogue likes and I I mentioned I've probably I believe on a recent episode that had been having a lot of fun with Haiti's but also you know other oriental the West came out this year and and heather mentioned earlier and and and this game. which are which are Metro Dany as in terms of why really like these games? Why responded that I think a big part of it is just like aesthetics like these games just like look and sound Fuckin- great and that's a huge differentiator I really responded as art style and it really responded the sound design in the score and. That counts for a lot when you've got so many different versions of this sort of. Genre in the market. But. Also. They also feel great. I. Mean this game this game to me again feels really good to play. And you know the same as area or a lot of classic Detroit Baniyas. Where we're going say about arouse is heather. Well I was going to say. I wish that somebody would bring out a battle royale battle royale like how can you have the genre named after a movie and nobody makes the game is because it would be grim. I mean. How much more grim would it be then like dropping people off on an island where you can like run for like fifteen minutes and just get sniped. Like it. Seems like a great skin I'm sure there are mods were. A battle Royale Battle Royale seems like a great opportunity to make a battle Royale Battle Royale game, and I hope somebody's listening and I. Hope this is my call to adventure. I'm going to refuse it. I will take up the challenge. Ardy your knee, a games in in any of these genres that have error clicked for you or I guess just in general what makes a game click for you but what makes what makes something stand out from the rest of the pack? I mean I'm always drawn to like a cool aesthetic in by cool I mean I guess cute I realized as the years go on and I can. I actually think that this game is cute. It's kind of cute horror and that's kind of why I it goes down so easy. And I'm always just really drawn towards like a kind of high-concept premise especially if it's sort of counterintuitive. So that's why I this it's like I got to be the Monster Lake Great I`Ma and it's cute. Cute it and monster and skew graphics. I'm totally that's that that's kind of the thought process for me. Usually that's also how I ended up playing on a bad games. A rogue like I played the shit out of is as F.. T.. L. which is the SPACEX space exploration game and it's basically like you're the captain of basically you're a star trek a you're in charge of a star trek fleet very simplified way of explaining it as you you traverse the galaxy and try to destroy a capital ship in the end but. That one is just like so fun because it's just like every run feels has enough differentiation where she's like, Oh, I just feel like I can play this a bunch in some elements are familiar, but ultimately, nut nothing will ever be nothing is ever going to be feel exactly the same and I could finish I get to complete a run and still WanNa do it again. With a different ship just to see what else happens a matt anything that. How about you any thoughts on the this? I mean you know I don't play a lot of Metro Advani as 'cause I I I. Guess I just didn't. I don't know I didn't grow up playing those games but for me again, by the way we've said, Metro Venus so many times without explaining it and I know have a lot of like lapsed gamers like non Gamerson our audience their. Kit just confused the shit out of the entire episode. Fuck is this word and it's like yeah. It's such a specific word and we say it a hundred times. But like I I messed around with fortnight a little bit because I thought I would be into that and I guess I'm just not I don't like. I guess what I look for in a game as if it's not gonNA, make me feel bad in any anyway nobody's GonNa. Make Fun of me. So. The Games that I play, myself are games where no one can chime in I guess. For them identify with that so much. Games that are just sort of like game experience like Oh i. don't think I. can do this open I can I definitely can. Hit US up on twitter and instagram kept played. Orson as an email get played geometric calmer leaves a voicemail at six, one, six, two, played six, one, six, two, seven, five, two, nine, three, three, and perhaps we will answer your question. On the show army camp thank you so much for returning the show a delight to have you here and discuss all things games anything. You'd like to plug it this time. I. Thank you for having me I like I I love the podcast I listen to it all the time I'd like to plug.
"arnie i" Discussed on How Did This Get Played?
"And. I have another review here since we we brought up Hitler earlier in the podcast I thought I'd read this one also, this is from cyborg dopamine from the steam store. It reads carry and being a good game is in the same dimension where Hitler is A. Librarian. did he I mean he wasn't a spiring librarian? That's not what the issue was but here's here's this. Poem I've ever. Here's the thing. Be amount of hours. On, record plane carrying. For. This review where there's a librarian thirty, seven point five. Wow. I wonder if they just let it running in the background. Like. Just forgot to close the APP I don't know maybe they actually put that much time I really how you could put that much time into it. I came close to one hundred percent in it and I didn't even play it I. Don't think for a half dozen hours. So. Yeah I, I don't know I'm just like all Hitler was going to go to was going to be an artist right? Where do you get librarian from? I don't know man. Yeah I don't know. If that review wasn't satisfying maybe you'll like this one from. What looks to be a hundred lower case. Jay's. The review was posted September twenty fifth and it reads simply, ass. And then one person found the review. Helpful.
"arnie i" Discussed on How Did This Get Played?
"GotTa. Get a little smaller. Did you guys like the. Did you guys like the you know another another much-commented thing in this game that we should maybe get everyone's take on is the absence of a mini map a which for a a a a kind of metro. Vania game is I only I only found frustrating twice they're only a couple of times everything I really do not know where to go or how to get there. But for the most part, I think because the game is short enough in the world is small enough. It wasn't that big of a deal I. Don't know what did you think heather? I kept thinking that one of the buttons would be the mini. Map. Yes. Like I kept testing. I was like there has to be a map. You can't have a game like this without a map. That's crazy. But I guess it's a either a design choice because the alien the tentacle beast has no spatial recognition or something. So like it doesn't know that it's an a different room every time it. Since you're playing like really from its point of view. Maybe. It was just maybe it's just confused about how space works. Also I guess if didn't know what up and down was because they were all this. Up and down were because they were all the same to you. Maybe the way you would like chart where you were would be different. But every time I look at Bird I. think that's so weird that that bird can look at anything and go I can go there. Must be very similar for the Tentacle Monster I don't remember the question here. That's when you look at a bird. Yeah, you don't when you look at a bird. Aren't you kind of enamored with the idea that it's free? Don't. Look at you and they're like, oh, they can open doors. Baby I mean definitely. Although I bet if I built a little tiny door. Broke it, open it Yeah Broken Yeah Crows are good at that stuff. It don't do it heather whatever you do. Don't do it. I got the thing that frustrated me. The most is I, got very lost and I never knew where I was and I took it partly as just sort of this type of game which I don't play as much of, but I get lost in like animal crossing so i. I was constantly like clearly have been year because there's blood everywhere but. To go yeah it it it. It did definitely I definitely have those hiccups a couple of times but all that said doesn't overstay its welcome. I thought the I found the ending very satisfying for the genre. Arnie's is a horror fan. Did. You were able to watch the ending. I. Thought, it was cool. I mean the game also, it's very Elegant overall like all the things kind of piece together like in a pretty fun way and even some of the choices where you're like. Why is why can't you up this re maybe robot guy like he started realize it's probably because you're always reliably going to need a person around during right parts of the game or you can't go forward. So I was really impressed actually with kind of how all the pieces fit together in a really good way oh. Yeah. We didn't even talk about how you can put your tentacle into a character into a human being. And control them in puppet them yes which is very grim and and a great genre specific. But then that gets you into the if there's a empty Mecca around you get to pilot, a MAC daddy is just That rule, every little boy's dream. Yes. There they don't draw too much attention to it, but there are a lot of great just little horror movie things, right? It's yeah like. Bursting out of a body or you know John's like sending an elevator down. You into an area well, usually that horror movies all the time like the elevator just comes down the monster's close by like fire torches at some point like that stuff was really fun for me. Yeah. I like this squishy sound. It makes when it moves that that's sort of like. Lettuce in too much ranch dressing down. I really I liked it a lot. Of the menu screen to like I maybe again because I don't play as many of these type of games like the throwback nature of the like I don't know it's not sixteen or whatever. You would call the graphics like the menu screen is the one that's most elaborate just like the tentacles and teeth. Yeah. Just looks like it looks like you're watching kings quest but something went horribly wrong. It's like a pixel art aesthetic, but it's it's the art is the art animation or are great yeah. That that that menu is is read. We'll hey, let's get to our final thoughts on carrying. It's time for our review crew. Crew..
"arnie i" Discussed on How Did This Get Played?
"By that time it's too late and the result is a potentially deadly crash. The point is you can't know how quickly the train will arrive. The train can't stop quickly even if it's easier, it ends in disaster. If the signals are on the train is on its way. And you just need to remember one thing stop. Trains can't. What we're talking horror games, it's pivoted this week's game. We're talking carrion. Which? Carrying which? Carrion. which released this year heather go for it. Carrying Carey. Carey in his a reverse horror game developed by Phobia Game Studio and published by Volver digital. It was released in July twenty third twenty, twenty other Games released in the year two, thousand, twenty include. Rugby Twenty for the playstation, four. or in the will of the wiz doom maternal and to the upcoming cyberpunk twenty, seventy seven. Karen is a game where you play as the bad guy, you control a giant red tentacle Blob. And you have to make your way through a facility, a knocking down barricades, going through vents and killing, and eating every human being that you come across save for one that you. Experience in flashbacks. It's a Metro Vania. So like there's a lot of backtracking a lot of moving around what I found awesome and compelling about this game because I'm not usually a Metro Advani fan was the speed with which you move around the screen, and also that you have a freedom of movement up down left right you aren't anchored to any surface you can go anywhere that. Point and that was Mo-. The. Most Fun of the game was just being able to zoom around like you like Oh shit. I have to go all the way across the map to another location. It does not take very long. If you know the way I love this game and I am glad you pointed that out because the reversal is so satisfying not just not it doesn't just feel good. It looks like the way the creature animates this big red tentacled abomination. Is like it looks so cool and It's Yeah and definitely I think just like a gets that feeling of being this thing. But Barney I'm curious because you mentioned you like horror movies I think a lot of a lot of people have compared this game to the thing. which is you know a did a definitely has some parallels there probably some influence or there any any horror movies I guess Verney wanted any horror movies this evoked for you in particular the definitely reminded me of the thing which is my favorite or movie of all time wow. And also reminded me of alien only in that like it felt like what it would be like to be the more you know sort of hiding in the rafters and coming down and like grabbing people and disappearing. And when I was a kid, I was terrified of a VHS cover of called the stuff and it kind of reminded me of that too which is yoga yeah kills. People. Can like melts them like just this horrible Morffiz Golob Viscera. Yeah, I remember looking at the cover of the stuff and there's being what is the stuff it? Looks Vile. A IT'S A it's a white substance if I remember. Simone icing. Yeah. It's really gross but the game also just makes reminds me of like looking at like a cover, a Fangoria magazine or something. Like just just like one of the monster was all Gore what if it was just all blood and Viscera I also like the way you paint the surfaces of the the game or or or rather all the services of the levels. So as you move through them become bloody messes after the. Thing, that the tentacle monster what are. We calling it what what do we get a name? Joe? Does it have a name? Let's go with. Joe We'll after wouldn't it be great if when you start the game and asks you type in your name? So lizzie when you move around the screen as Joe Every surface you touch becomes bloody, which means that you come into a room and it's all very nice and then you appear all the human being starts screaming and begging for their lives. You if viscera everybody knocked down all the boxes, every room you leave looks like garbage. It's really. Pleasant it's I know it sounds graphic and horrible, but it's it's charming. Our fantasy, it's it's very, very satisfying just like in terms of how much you can fuck shit up and the physics feel great in terms of like grabbing a fuck an desk with your tentacle and then flinging it over to bludgeon of fleeing scientists like all that stuff feels very good as grim as it is. I also like that that's the problem solving I mean there is some basic puzzling to to the game but some of the problem solving is like you go into a room and there's a drone with a bunch of lasers and his firing guns at you and you're like, fuck, how do I get around this thing and the solution is grab it and swing it around until it breaks. I don't. Like that's really satisfying like I'm glad that you don't have to be like, oh I, got a time myself between these leg. It really is a mate lets you be a monster? Yeah, and I think the like I had a similar thing because you get the you get different levels of of enemies that you're fighting all the enemies are human. It's it's either human or mechanical. There isn't any. There are any other alien life forms are dealing with. It feels like most of the game is taking place in some sort of underground bunker lab that's at times underwater. So it it is like you it has that kind of sterile isolated feel that you'll get from like the thing or alien is. The army cited it's But. But but I will say that like like, yeah, I had a similar experience with drone with the Mex- that you run into later the Mexican heavily armored and have a.
"arnie i" Discussed on How Did This Get Played?
"You can order that shirt. Yeah Someone's job I have never met this person at someone's job at the printer to like decide which shirts they won't print would. Be a bad many. Yeah. Can you can you speak it I and you know I'd be as be as choirs cagey as as you need to be. But can you speak at all about the the development process within Jack box internally like how you? How you craft a game from from conception, how you iterating on it? If there's anything you talk about in broad strokes. Sure. Of course every year we release a back a five games and what that basically means is we play paper test a bunch of dumb ideas until we get to those five and we are kind of entering that time of the. Year right now, which is my personal favourite, which is just like you have half an idea and you are just sort of like everybody. Let's get some sharpies and some notepads pads and it's like what about a game where you have to hide your drawing poop onto a cake and so you're like that was I'm saying that that's a pitch that was. Hard rejected but I Don't see the brilliance of poop cake everyone's hiding poop on this cake, you're trying to get people to eat the cake. And you just sort of prepared to fund this game. Myself. And so yeah, you're just kind of in some ways. You're just sort of like fishing for fun social mechanics and when you feel like you have something you sort of you pitch it and everyone in our. In Our company can pitch anything and we play test as like over twenty thirty ideas every year and sort of like. Narrow it down and then we make those games very fast like we're a small team although we've grown over the last couple of years and it's a, it's still like I. You know as an improviser I I'm really drawn to it because I get to make something really fast. and. People get to play that thing really fast like I can't imagine working on like big game where you you finish something and you have to wait so long for for people to play it. Yeah, I mean. It's AAA development from from back when I was involved, his has gotten and I never even worked on triple a game AA at best is is in terms of scope and scale, but like just it's gotten. So sprawling that I, just I cannot imagine I mean the amount of labor and the amount of people on different the number of different studios at different continents involved in in in brings live and it's it is it is truly staggering. Yeah it's pretty. It's pretty Rad that you can. You guys can work so fast and lean on. Is there anything that you ever were like either were initially skeptical of or you know kind of the inverse of poop cake something were internally everyone was like I don't know if this is going to go anywhere during the prototyping stage and that eventually everyone got him board was like we got something here oh all the time. Yeah I mean I'm frequently wrong like every day like. I don't know this one's going to be so good and and then like it sort of turns into something I'm trying to think of like the best. Example like it's never that I don't think something is fun but like. paneling stupid is a really fun, very popular game of ours from a couple of packs back where you're just kind of like giving a presentation. On a dumb invention that you've made and I was one of those like I don't know I think people just like to sit and I don't really WanNa talk during the Games and they don't want to sort of have to do more than that and so I was always one of those like I don't know if this is going to be for that many people and it's one of the most popular games from that pack and while the point where like the game I directed this year. Is More of that. It's basically give a powerpoint presentation give like a slide show presentation without having seen the slides in advance. So it's even more of that kind of thing when a couple of years ago I thought that that wouldn't work at all. Yeah. Because that's like a nightmare someone has oh yeah, and that was the challenge of like I didn't pitch the talking points, which is Jack Box party pack seven which I think is out a couple of days ago has of this coming out. Wow And I but the challenge the thing we spend the most time on is people hate people do not want to speak in public they're terrified of it and they're terrified of having to speak extemporaneously. So what can we do to give them as many bumpers possible so that if you just go with it and sort of say anything it's going to be funny like you can excel at it but so like I really didn't think I wanted to play this game and they kind of came around on it and are ready to be really annoying public speakers now I guess. That's right. Can I a pivoting a little bit outside of Jack Box Games and stuff that you've worked on do you have any party games that are you know it could be It could be a board game it but anything that you that you think of is kind of a go to fun thing when you're having some sort of social occasion. I love I mean, I probably play more tabletop games as I get older that games and frankly now they have a kid I don't even play those very much but I really love I love Cooperative Games a lot I love social deduction games. I've played a lot of secret Hitler I. Think That's a really fun social deduction game. To think what else? I. Am I do want to pause real could I'm not familiar with secret Hitler Oh It's a social deduction game. It sounds very You know here's the thing it came out sort of before people thought that they really had to worry about Nazis as much as I. Do. And the game designer frequently, I am sorry that I made a game that came true. But basically either idea is you're trying to pass bills through a government and some of you are secretly fascists and some of you are liberals in not in the Lake Democrat, versus Republican sense and you're. Really, describing this in a way that doesn't make it sound fun but it's really Really just a very easy to understand game where you're passing little cards around and you get, you might get to that say liberal and Fascist made all say fascist and you know if you're trying to hide the ear of the fascist, you the liberal card away and there's just a lot of like deniability about what cards you have, and so it's it's just a game then like guide you along so that you can just straight face lie to your friends phasing basically and then just really distrust each other. How how does this game work if both? I, mean, you have to choose between liberal and Fascist, and we all know that stashes is the radical left. Like how? How can you possibly I mean? Everybody is a fascist. Got The instruction booklet. There's been red pill. Fantasy? You mentioned tabletop games and we we are in. You know we're in aware in October we are in horror month a here on the podcast anything in the horror genre they played or. RPG's you're a fan of you know I have to confess I'm not a big. I love horror movies, but I've never played a lot of horror games before unless like growing xango counts. which it probably doesn't but if. You know it's a great. Table Top game. That is actually not that like it's a little complicated but not too complicated. There's a game I. Think it's called haunted, which is like a universal horror movie monsters game. What is kind of similar to pandemic? I. Don't know if you've ever played pandemic, it's like a collaborative game or you're trying to stop a pandemic which as I'm saying it's like I Do not want to play pandemic right now. The world with a little secret. Hitler or pandemic. Honda, you're in this little village and you you can pick what monsters you want to have in your game. It's like LET'S HAVE DRACULA AND DR JEKYLL and Mr Hyde and the invisible man and they kind of move around the board. It's pretty straightforward in you. All I like cooperative game. So y'all cooperatively, we try to like stop them and save villagers as the game goes on. Sounds Rad. Yeah. Sounds cool. The thing I want to get across is I am dumb like I am bad at games I have a hard time tracking what's going on and this is a game that I can follow. It might sound more complicated than it is. I'm very useful to have an office or you're testing out party games because can. Subject for like are you too dumb drunk to play.
"arnie i" Discussed on How Did This Get Played?
"Films Are you? Okay Not. Look. I'm starting to sympathize with your captors in the reality of the Game I. Think I'm going to have no choice but to try to kill you with fire. You. You're you're an abomination I'm GONNA kill you with fire. Left with no choice but to kill you kill you with fire a right. I can't say no to that Faye. Was So stupid. We, devour the flesh of man and spread our biomass in reverse horror game. Karen. This week on how did this get Selena? Welcome to.
"arnie i" Discussed on How Did This Get Played?
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How COVID has worsened modern slavery
"My guests are Sierra and Stephen. Moore. So a husband and wife team the CO founders and directors of the Anti Slavery Organization. On China now, sadly, even with all the framework implies to tackle slavery along comes twenty twenty, the covid virus complicated further by the recession of the world economy. Sarah keeping with you how has the pandemic affected the workers at the bottom of the supply chain? mean the depend makers having catastrophic effects on supply chains and the people within them. We know that right at the beginning of covid thousands of people lost their jobs overnight. For example, Bangladeshi workers in factories would just told simply not come back to work the next day I read a story of a Lady Fatima. Twenty six with one child and she said one minute I was working the Knicks I was told to go home and not come back. What will I do and we're doing this story I ever either again, just yesterday I read about full thousand Filipino workers have been laid off because they contracts have been canceled from big name brands on this side of the world. This is a reminder that lives of the poorest of the poor said they must affected. You know when factories closed down no water more krant leaving no access to medical care very disturbing stephen a terrible Arnie has come from the pen Jimmy can one of these stories can you tell us about the manufacturers of people? In Malaysia Southeast Asia. Yes so Malaysia is a major producer of rubber and therefore rubber products made from rubber, and so we know that prior to Kevin. tain they were upset in bands on on manufacturers in the US are guiding the manufacturing of a products because of the conditions of workers and the standards that were in place. What's interesting is that as the pandemic breakout at the Dimond four PPA products through those Restrictions were lifted so that those products could be made and so this is concerning regarding the explosia increasing the risk of on slavery in those areas, and that brings us to Australia I can just imagine those of you cheating gene. You'd like to think of yourself as an ethical consumer. You wouldn't buy anything from a supply that explored its employees off certainly thought that Sarah is it really true. Look here in Australia, the Global Slavery Index estimates that there around fifteen thousand people living in slavery. So they miceli in the agriculture construction domestic service hospitality and sex industries says as well as services provided often by subcontractors such as cleaning security. And even car washing. Stephen. I'm sure he made a lot of Astrid. Slavery. Happens in this country till us more. Conversations on a daily basis with lots of companies and receptionists and executive assistants who sort of take a second look in the modern modern what slavery does this sexually occur? So there is a growing understanding of this issue in certain sectors of society, which is great to say a growing desire among consumers, a young consumers to be careful in how they purchase and what they buying to know what's behind the brand and the backyard. But there is still a great need for consumers and businesses to understand what are the implications of the choices they make and to make sure that. Is for ethically my products is actually real. And you think of different types of slavery forced marriage debt bondage six slavery child labor in the strain context who are the most vulnerable groups to fall victim to exploitation soon. Well Australia we have a number of women and at times there underage who are forced into marriage. So married against the will. That is an issue. 'CAUSE estimates around four and a half thousand up to eight thousand in Australia in the new. Year. So. These these people are at risk. We also know that there a risk among temporary workers, migrant workers in Australia there's up to one million. Timber Workers in Australia and they have been badly affected by covid nineteen, and so they are now at risk of having to receive low pay and also to do jobs for no pay. As you say covers made it harder but Sarah how do you identify person or group WHO's being exploited? That's right. I mean I, guess, it depends on the industry. But for example, I read a story about a man quote Abdul who was a Bangladeshi man who was working on a construction site just outside of camera. He came here thinking that he was going to be able to earn a lot of money to send I am to his family to send his children to school. But in the end, he ended up working six days a week for around two hundred, fifty dollars and was forced to give one hundred dollars backup that to his employer for accommodation costs and so I guess it's if you're on a construction site, it's looking at WHO's there. Do they speak English do they have appropriate? Even having a conversation with them to find out. Are they. Okay. Because a lot of these people feel like they don't have a voice, they often don't speak English and. Attend to. So you know in the case of healthcare workers keeping your eye out for people who come through the emergency department who maybe controlled by an older man, for example, looking out for signs of physical sexual emotional abuse.
COVID-19 Transmission is Solvable
"I wanted to star. With a really dumb obvious question, which is, can you describe to me all the ways in which you can look for the presence of virus that you would be? Well, that's not an obvious question at all. Within each virus viruses just like. Any other thing they have a genetic code, and then they have a bunch of proteins and the genetic code of a virus is Arnie, which is akin to a human's DNA, and so the same way that you could do a forensic investigation of a crime scene and use DNA defined if there was a human specific human at the crime scene, you can do a forensic investigation to look for Ra to know if there was an inside of a person so. That's one way and that's this tool that these molecular tools that we call PCR, and then there's a different way instead of using the genetic makeup and the Arna to look for the virus. In this case, you could actually look for the proteins that make up the virus and that's where these antigen tests really shine. So you can either look for the genetic code or you could look for the proteins I like to call these rapid antigen tests, transmission indicating tests. There's one other major way which is a quickly and that's to. Look for the immunological response to the virus, because humans are good at making immune response to viruses. So it's a different way and that's antibody based detection but that's I put it in a whole different category because it usually comes after infection. Yeah. So the first way looking for the aren a is the kind of gold standard that's exactly right and so if I go to the hospital and get a today, get a Cova test, the looking for giving me the using to see if I have fires in my system that's right and what's the cheapest that a PC tests could produce result that actual price of tests can be done for about six bucks maybe. Even less so it can be really cheap, but the differences, the whole infrastructure around PCR test they have to be done in labs. So you have logistics of transport you have all of the people working in the lab robots and and so generally, it really drives the cost up and as we've seen the average test costs anywhere from thirty dollars at the absolute low end up to one hundred and fifty dollars for some labs that are charging in contrast be CR, two antigen tests. How do engine chess? What do they look like? What's their cost in time profile they? They look like a pregnancy test and they work like a pregnancy test actually they can be made. A little piece of paper generally speaking. You put some of the sample whether that be some swab that's been mixed with some saline solution or saliva onto a paper strip, and it shows up with a line turns either for example, red if it's positive or blue, it's negative and those can be made in the in huge numbers. They don't require instruments they don't usually require. There's a few on the market right now that to get the. Sensitivity at the FDA wanted they have some instrumentation associated but in reality, these are used for malaria strep for all these different infections they've been around for very long time and they can be done just on a piece of paper and five minutes and they could get down to you can produce them for fractions of a dollar and they might be sold to the public or built by the government for. A dollar apiece or something along those lines. So you're you've been a the perhaps the leading public proponent public health proponent of. Using Antigen, tests much more broadly to fight this. Derek and I wanted to the first time I. Heard you give this argument you convince me about two minutes. And I still don't understand why why don't we have this system because I can imagine a world where if it's this if they're cheaper easy, then you know every kid before they went to school in the morning. Would take one of these fifty cents or one dollar tests, and if they were positive, they would say home in their negative we would know that could go to school like. If, I want to go to a restaurant, why can't I just sat stand investable the restaurant take test and wait for my response and if I'M If I'm negative I get to go to the restaurant it just strikes me as. This is a way to get going again. Why are we not doing this? Can you explain that I can I have a few theories I. mean they're not just theories. They're they're. In the middle of this. So these tests because of this whole sensitivity issue early in March or really in January the world decided that was the gold standard for these tests and I don't think and I that this will maybe come. We'll come across wrong for some people but there hasn't been enough thought place into what exactly does the PR test mean, and is it the right gold standard? The only pathway that we have to evaluate tests like this in the United States are medical diagnostic pathways there pathways designed specifically to ensure that a physician like a detective is getting all of the information they need to diagnose a sick person in front of them so it's really been. First and foremost a regulatory hurdle we have so devalued and de funded public health across our country and really across the world. That we actually didn't, we don't have a regulatory pathway to approve test whose primary objective is is one of stopping an epidemic verses one of diagnosing sick person and that has really led. That's everything up all of the companies that could be producing these these really rapid tests in the millions and millions they have been sitting on these tests trying to hone them trying to get them just a little bit better just a little bit better so that the so that they can pass FDA standards as a medical diagnostic. It's not just slowing down their approval and getting them out to the public. It's actually bottle necking the company's into creating tests that are not going to be as scalable because they're having to use more expensive reagents they're starting to put them with instruments and package them more. They have to actually become more expensive, highly manufactured tests. When in reality, they're just these little pieces of paper. That if we can do the cheap version of they can be made very fast, but they just won't get through the FDA at the moment
What We Can Learn from a LOT of Blood Samples
"This episode, we're going to be talking to Tatyana for rude and Brooke pates about the Bio Bank. What is it? What does it do? How can we use it for research including COVID Research Brooke. Tatyana. Welcome, Brooke, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and what do you do? My name is Brooke pay I manage the operations of the. INDIANA. By obey can have been doing that for about seven years now. So all of our intake of samples are recruitment of subjects. That is all falls under what I do. Well, how did you get to this? What training via have? What did you go to school for degree to get what? What do you do to get this job? I have an undergraduate degree. Degree from Butler University in Biology, but always liked the ethical issues related to the technology of the science. So that landed me in the Masters Program at Iu, I have a masters in bioethics after I graduated. I. Took a position with a bio. Bay That was a nonprofit startup by obey associated with are you and then several years into that role the company. Became more associated with you and I began working for Tatyana Tatiana. You've been on the program before, but for those who might have missed that episode and they should definitely go back injured anyway, you tell us a little bit about yourself, your training of what you do, of course. So many Tatyana, food, I am the chair of the Department of medical and molecular genetics and. And I'm also now the director of the Indian Bio Bank. So I got here through have an undergraduate degree in biology and math I did that in Connecticut at a small liberal arts. College called Fairfield. University. And then I got a master's degree in something called bio mathematics put those two things together. I did that at Ucla and then I got my PhD. In Indiana University and loved it loved what I did and just stayed and never left. So I've been on the faculty now for over twenty five years. So let's strong with just the basics. What what is a bio bank? So I can start with that. So if you take the word apart bio meaning anything biological and Bank we all think of a bank is a place. You put your money. This is a case where this is a place where you put specimens or biological material. So if it was just Just Bank of biological material I. Mean it has some value, but it's really valuable when you link it to information about the individual from whom you got that biological sample. Typically, we do this for all kinds of diseases, but we're going to talk today about in particular people who were Kovic positive and it lets us ask questions about, for example, why did some people die? Why did some people improve after being in the hospital? Why did some people never end up in the hospital? Why do some people have long term complications? Complications and others not and this marrying of biological samples and clinical information lest you ask those questions. So it's a a bio bank I have so many questions about the logistics about it. So what what kind of samples first of do you take an house? One of the things that's really easy to be able to obtain relatively easy is a blood sample. So if you think about a people go to a doctor's office, you get kind of blood drawn for lots of different reasons. So it's a relatively relatively easy thing to. To, be able to collect, but there's lots of different things you can obtain an study from a blood sample. So one of the things that you can obtain from a blood sample is DNA. So that's our cinetic material allows us to ask all kinds of things about genetic people use the word genetic predisposition. Why do some people develop disease and you ask about changes DNA that might contribute to that? If you take that blood sample now and also do some other things to it. So for example, if you're able to. Literally spin a sample you to spin it in a machine that spins it really fast. You can actually get the blood to separate and it comes into these different parts of the blood. One of the things we study is something called plasma. So plasma and and kind of a partner to it, which is serum are really valuable because you can measure things called proteins in and proteins are things that our body has. A lot of people have been talking about like. Like, antibodies and things like that. You can measure antibodies, which lots of US have been hearing about in plasma and serum. So we collect that from individuals that are in the Bio Bay something else that we collect is something called Arnie. Now aren a simply tells us how much of a protein we make. So week study thing called expression, how much do we express it and so some of the things that can be important is if we make a lot. Lot of something or less of it, and could that be controlled by something, for example, in our DNA, those are things that some of the things that we study in our blood. The other thing that we've been studying particularly around cove it is we can take that blood sample and we can actually sort the different kinds of cells that we have in our blood. It's kind of amazing and we can collect one particular one called a Mon- and lots of people. People want to study the different components of our blood because we can also ask do we have more or less of them? Is that affected? For example, by having certain diseases, what it is that those products are able to make. So we've been studying that and the other thing that we've been collecting is not anything related to blood. So we've also been trying to collect urine from individuals who have had covert to try to understand what we can measure. Measure in the urine that might help us understand why some people are having kidney complications and some people are not.
FedEx Earnings: FDX Stock Soars 9% on Strong Q4
"We've got an earnings alert on dined you by the way Arnie's alert on Fedex the stocks touring the after our session. Let's get to Frank Colin who's got all the details Frank Melissa. Dollar beat on EPS. grout margin also surprising to the upside for the segment that's been handling much that increased demand due to cove in nineteen becks ground, seeing volumes increased by twenty three percent, but much of that was that less profitable. B. To C. operating merging falling year year because that beat AC- increase average revenue per piece, falling as well, but I'm at from Deutsche Bank echoing the sentiments of many others on the street, shock and awe in a good way, people were bracing for something like six or seven percent margin for ground, the express margins more than doubled sequentially. The CAP x number is also very very positive, because one of the this company is that they've been overspending on cap ex. Ex Fedex as becks will be around four point, nine dollars in fiscal, twenty, twenty, one, a one billion dollar decline the company, saying every single line item was impacted by in nineteen that include a one hundred and twenty five million dollar increase in operating cost much of that the by e for employees Fedex also declined to offer full year guidance because of the uncertainty of the pandemic, and after hours ups, also of five percent, both companies, seeing a boost in volume ups, also a first mover on a surcharge for large retail customers, a move expected to generate fifty million for ups in June alone Fedex. Just starting that surcharge on June eighth. We'll have to watch and see how that turns out. To you frank, thank. You! Frank, Collin the latest on Fedex. Steve Crossover better than expected quarter bigger-than-expected move as predicted by the options market here by the way in the act hours.
U.S. plans massive coronavirus vaccine testing effort to meet year-end deadline
"Tastes have been on the hunt for something that could shut this virus down and give us our lives back. A vaccine. A few months ago, there was a lot of excitement. As the very first clinical trials for the coronavirus began, it was in time. The search for coronavirus vaccine has become one of the fastest moving in history. That scenes usually take years not months to produce. This is happening warp speed. Never before hundreds of scientists are over the world and focused on the same thing at the same time creating a vaccine for covid nineteen. And more and more vaccine candidates are entering the fray. Were at the point, where around a dozen clinical trials are on the go. Hundreds of people volunteered for jab in the arm to test old kinds of different vaccines. As part of this scientists are taking some be gambles. The vaccine were looking at is incredibly modern type vaccine. It's not the traditional way building a vaccine, so we're going as fast as humanly possible. Many of them are not traditionally vaccine companies. They are using novel ideas from oncology things. They've learned treating cancer. It's never been used in a vaccine before. And if one of these gambles payoff, it could be huge, we could get a vaccine soon. The US government says that the goal is to get a vaccine to Americans by January twenty twenty one. They're calling this nation warp speed. And if it could be done, this would be unprecedented. So could we really be celebrating twenty one with Champagne and shot in the arm to fight the coronavirus? And? What would it take to make that happen? That's Today on the show. Because when it comes to getting a vaccine, it feels like this is happening at warp speed, but then there's. Science. Scientist is when on Earth Are we getting? This vaccine is coming up to stop to the break. This episode of science versus is sponsored by Phillips Sonacare the electric toothbrush that combines decades of science and engineering to master the art of brushing with sixty two thousand brushstrokes minute you've got a month's worth of brushing in just two minutes for better checkups, guaranteed or your money back visit Phillips. Dot Com slash sonacare. This episode of science versus is brought to you by AFLAC. That lovable duct does more than just say. AFLAC access a safety net when the unexpected happens by helping with the expenses. That health insurance doesn't cover. Get to know them at half dot com. Welcome back. So back in January. We had from people like Anthony Fauci that we could get a vaccine in twelve to eighteen months. That could mean early next year. And in the land of vaccines, these would be record breaking. It often takes something like ten years for a vaccine to from the lab to the doctor's office. So can we really do it? Get Out of this pandemic by January, before Santa even catches these brands. Well to get them labs. All around the world s around experimenting with different kinds of vaccines. But they all have the same goal to train our immune system to recognize and killed this coronavirus. And to do that, many vaccine developers have homed in on one thing. Progress. And northwestern told us all about it. If you think about the picture that you've seen corona virus like everywhere, and it looks like a ball with little points coming out. Those points the spike. Spike protein you know it, I, know it. It's the most famous spikes in Spike Lee and the most famous protein since. College Eddie right. This spike is so important because it's a major thing that tells our body weight this virus. It doesn't belong here. That actually is what argue system fees most readily. It sees the spike. After our meeting system sees the spike. It lends to recognize quickly. Respond to it by creating things like antibodies to fight it, and then some of those antibodies hang around so that if the virus shows up, then the virus will just be cleared away by our immune system. So that the next time we see that disease, we don't get sick in the first place, so if you making Exane, how do you get your immune system to quickly recognized this spike? Well, one way is that scientists can take rhinovirus and then make less dangerous. Say They Kill the virus most comedy vaccines are made by growing up the virus. And inactivating that virus sometimes with the chemical, sometimes the heat, and then that is then injected. An otherwise scientists can do this version of the virus. That's too weak to make you sick. And this is how we make a lot of vaccines familiar with things like the measles and chickenpox and flu vaccines. It's tried and tested. We know it can work and some companies are going this way to try to make Alka, rhinovirus vaccine. But other groups at. This meat and potatoes vaccine method they using new attack more experimental ways of building vaccine. And these experimental methods getting a ton of attention and funding right now, because governments and big. Pharma hoping they'll deliver the goods pasta. So for they use instead of giving you a whole coronavirus, these vaccines, basically using genetic material from the coronavirus, and then they're plopping that into your body. And scientists have chosen a very particular piece of genetic material spike. It's the recipe for the spike, protein. And this can come in a couple of forms. One is called. Our body will see that as a normal M Arnie and just translate into a pro team. Wow, so this. If this vaccine works, it would encourage your body to make little corona virus proteins. Yes that's that's the idea. Wow, that seems so futuristic. As as is, that's really cool right, so you're getting the body degenerate that protein for you yet, so these spike proteins that your body has made will then be floating around and the idea. Is that your immune system? We'll see it. Make antibodies send Ta. You'll have immunity. And many of the vaccines in this race, delivering this genetic material to us in different ways, so some shopping Marin into a ball of fat, so that your cells will slip up while other groups trying to smuggle in that code using get this a totally different virus one. That weren't hurt you. Is it fantasy that they've taken a different virus? And then they're like like Halloween the dressing at all like the corona virus, yes. Say. So this all sounds a little bunk is mad. The question is will it really work that is. Will these vaccines protectiveness if we get exposed to the coronavirus? Because if they don't. Like on a useless. My boss is to stay if it's just dishwater that you're not gonNA get anywhere. This is Katie Stevenson. She's a doctor working on vaccine development at Harvard and she says that one of the key ways will know if a vaccine is working is if it makes you produce antibodies. And she's looking for not just any antibodies. But neutralizing antibodies, what what is a neutralizing antibodies? So a neutralizing antibody is an antibody that binds to virus and neutralizes it. This is the dream right? Yeah, exactly right inches binds to the virus and prevent it from entering a cell. So the body sees that and just thrown in the garbage to this is what Katie is going to be looking for. In the results of all these clinical trials, and if she doesn't see these neutralizing antibodies, shelby thinking well, that was kind of done. And Katie says I dealing see a lot of these. So! What's a lot? Well you measure milk leases. Okay so I've measure milk. And you can measure antibodies titus. So one study, which looked at people who had been infected with this virus, and then recovered found the antibody. Titus tended to be at least one hundred. And when Katie's colleague vaccinated monkeys with an experimental vaccine, they found that having similar antibody Tom of one hundred protected them from getting infected. So while we're still learning a lot, he all I have been kind of looking for one one hundred. Okay, that's it's nice, poetic, great one hundred yeah! We have a handful of results that companies have released from different clinical trials, but just one paper that's published in a peer review gentle. It was from a Chinese local company who injected more than one hundred people with one of those new fandango vaccines and it was back in March. They tested three different doses. And Katie says they didn't get. This antibody tighter. Like at the highest dose averaged around Bootie for you know I was a little bit disappointed, so a little bit reserved I'm happy that it elicited an immune response because that's not a given. Sometimes, it's just zero zero zero but I would've liked to see something closer to like one hundred another company. Medina injected forty five people back in March with the vaccine, and they said that eight people had good levels of neutralizing antibodies. But they didn't tell us about the opposite in the trial. When we asked dinner about this, we didn't hear back to Katie is holding out for more info. Yeah, I just wanted to see the rest because it is immune. A- promising I'd put promising right on there. But I do not know which one of these is GonNa work if any, and that that is the actual fact truth so I try not to stray from that, and there are other FAC truths to nail down him. Even if these vaccines do make you produce produces, antibodies will still have to make absolutely short that you'll protected from the corona virus. If you do get exposed, and then if you protected, we'll have to work out how long four so you might need. More than one shot of the vaccine say a booster shot in a or so.
Testing if an Approved Antiviral May Prevent COVID-19 Outbreaks
"For pilly therapeutics to begin a face to study of an approved antiviral therapy as a potential preventative treatment against covid nineteen outbreaks, the study will enroll seven hundred sixty participants who are in long term care facilities in Ontario. The others are looking at the drug as a possible treatment for covid nineteen. This is the first study to consider its potential to prevent outbreaks. We spoke to Armand. Balboni see Ova pilly about the drug how it works and its potential to prevent outbreaks of covid nineteen in high risk populations. Armin thanks for joining us. Great to great lengths. We're going to talk about a guy. Its efforts to repurpose an approved antiviral as a prophylactic treatment against the covid nineteen virus in patients, long term care facilities in Canada for people, not familiar with the company. What does APU I do? Pillai Therapeutics was started. Twenty fifteen as an as a company in the anti infective space to address unmet needs. In. Fairly creative way we, we really are in global fighting instant action broadly, and what that means is, we are agnostic to a particular technology. We don't suffer from wasn't invented here, so we don't like it. We really look for the toughest problems in infectious disease, and then go and try and find solutions that could be an antibacterial, antiviral, anti, fungal, or accedes, which we actually have all of those so that that really is a little bit of different approach many. and. You're sponsoring the first clinical trial evaluating VIP Aveer for the prevention of covid nineteen. What is? there. So. The drug is a broad spectrum antiviral, and what that means is it has activity active against a wide range of viruses in this case there any viruses, so things like influenza. Ebola or I I had a chance to look at this in a couple of other agents. LHASA FEVER A Disease that endemic in. An Africa and of course songs cokie to. OR OF A. Ninety, and so it is a broad spectrum antiviral. Proof for influenza Japan and we noted that because of that activity. It is probably a great drug with a lot of safety data to to try against Cova Antena and that's binding. You actually had experience with the drug back when you were a staff officer at the US. Army Research Institute of Infectious Disease. What was your experience with the drug then? I was I. was at you Sam read actually. I was on I'm an officer been an officer? The US Army as both MD end of. Upper over seventeen years, and so what that means I've worked on a number of anti effective programs. The US. Department of Defense sent me to to the food and Drug Administration at two thousand fourteen for the outbreak, and it was during that whole. Albert but I had the opportunity to work as part of the review team reviewer in. In the FDA and looked at both from severe trump. It's now being used by Gilead and Santa Peer Review I'm so both drugs are broad spectrum. Antivirals and had had an opportunity to look at how they were against a some Arnie viruses legal.
Honoring George Floyd with Real Change, a Statement from Marriott
"CEO Arne Sorenson, and addressing the recent events surrounding race in this country, and in his company in a recent linked posts, saying for many years I've tried to use my purchased Marriott to advocate for opportunity for all regardless of race, gender, nationality, or any other point of human difference, each person deserves to be recognized for who we are and respected for common humanity, and the distinct qualities that make us unique joining us right now. Is Arne Sorenson? He is the CEO of Marriott international and Arnie. It's great to see you. Thanks for being with us today. Becky you to. Want to set this against the proper backdrop, obviously, the last several months have been incredibly difficult for everybody in the Travel and leisure industry. You are a global company. You've got more than seven thousand properties, one hundred and thirty one different countries, so you've been watching the arc of this as it all takes place, you've had to close properties. You've had to furlough employees. Where are we right now? How many of your properties are actually still shuttered? How many? Employees. Have you had to furlough? How many have you been able to bring back? Less aggression there, of course, the impact of Covid nineteen has been profound on our business. We've seen. By Revenue Sales, at army tells by ninety percent globally starting of course I in China then moving around the world as we got into March. And are low point. We had about two thousand, nine, hundred seventy five hundred hotels that were closed around the world. We've probably reopened three to four hundred of those I. Think when we look at even in the United States. We see the early signs of recovery, although we've gone from something like minus ninety percent revenue, something like minus eighty percent revenue so well in percentage terms. If you think about it from the bottom is up one hundred percent. is still a long long. Before and we suspect it's going to be. A slow climb beck. Levels we nineteen. So that sets the backdrop for what a difficult several months it's been already and how much you have on your plate. Employees are kind of watching this and not knowing what's happening on, either then you have the civil unrest and the riots that have taken place, and that adds to it so as A. What did this mean? Warning label to do. What are you hearing from your employees? This is obviously a just blew latest reminder, a frustratingly long Sharon criminal justice, particularly for for blacks and urban cities in the United States. where! There is unfairness that is profound, a and I suppose the only thing that are is what positive about this is the availability of cell. And the fact that we can see the outrageous behavior that obviously. Killed George Floyd in Minneapolis. Allows US I think to some sometimes. Put aside your search for him big. Unity Instead, say this is a profoundly unacceptable. And start to turn the corner in eight now. What is it that we can do about it? When I blog about this weekend, of course was was quite personal. I woke up Saturday morning and had this on my mind as everybody did. and. This is something we should communicate about. I'm obviously not black leader in a business community him United States. We have a very diverse work group and wanted to communicate with them like the more I think about it. It is not just a question about what we Mary Do, which is really the focus of blog, but recognize that what any individual company can do is simply not enough. We've gotTA. Find a way to. Make a dramatic more progress can. Is Space than any single company? Can You well what does that translate into in real terms? Arnie we, all the conversations are underway in a number of different organizations, so the VRT for Jampel is is talking about fitness a real time as we speak. I think many of us are are using our networks, folks both inside and outside our companies to. Talk about places we can make a difference I think I. Think and must each of us do what we can with our workforce and with our partnerships, unity's where we do business, but I think that we can band together also through outfits like the Bart recognized that we've got to work on criminal justice issues which. Company can't do probably ending together and advocating. Criminal Justice around educational opportunity around access to healthcare around access to financial resources. These are for big areas that. Collectively. We can push for not just. What can we do as companies, but what can we? Help implement in the policy space. To to put this outrageous behavior bindis. SAY THAT! These are real time conversations that are happening with you and your peers at the Business Roundtable How quickly do you think that this is something that can, it can translate into action. We had Randal Stevenson a former head of the business roundtable on earlier this week, and he said that look when any of these big companies kind of put their mind to it, they they can have a significant amount of say in policy in Washington and that we've seen it happen time and time again. For issues that are near, and dear to any of these individual companies, hearts or that make a real difference for business business doesn't work free markets don't work in an environment where a large class of our people are perceiving and experiencing injustice, so we have an imperative to begin to use our muscle and are influenced to begin to affect policy change to address this. That this is something where? This is a moment that all of these companies are going to stick with us and say that this A. An agenda that has to carry down I do I do it again. By suggesting for a second, Bart ought to band together and use its force together. I'm not crying. Excuse the conduct that any individual company will be we will continue to be very active in this space as myriad, but I think collectively would be that much louder and I think the Bart and other organizations will move very quickly and will not let up on this. I think our employees basis demand. I think society demands it. I think fundamental aspects of fairness and the importance of opportunity. demands it and I think as a consequence. Is this event I? Don't know whether you had a chance to see prisoner after noon. But one of the things that I found some
"Today. We're discussing warning signs starring Sam Waterston. Kathleen Quinlan my Italian cousin Koto. Jeffrey Demon directed by HAL bar. Would this is Arnie? From Quarantine and Stewart and this is the CO host feels rage beautiful rage Jacob. Yes folks I am in Quarantine. I've actually broken quarantine. I have not left my bedroom in eight days. I have broken quarantine to come to the recording studio so we could record about plague and I'm glad to hear that you're up. You sound pretty good. It sounds like things are going. Well Yeah this is not a joke or a bit people. Yeah Yeah you're awfully chipper about it but just to put it in perspective. You seem to be dealing with it well and we're glad about that. We usually record on Wednesdays. I came down with it on the Thursday after recording. I had like six days of hell and I'm back for this feeling my best. I haven't gotten the results of the coverted test back. I did get one of the coveted Cova tests. They did take a cotton swab and stick and so for up my nose. I think they swabbed my frontal lobe. I don't think I have cove it. I got a flu or something. I don't think I'm sick enough for coveted. But in an abundance of caution yes our local respiratory clinic has ordered me into isolation for two weeks but yes. I felt like if there's a movie that I should break quarantine to discuss. Its warning sign in our viral outbreak series. Yeah because they break a whole lot of rules in this film Yes. The nineteen eighties is a huge decade. For pandemic you know the AIDS crisis explodes. I wanted to cover one of those films. But they weren't made in the one thousand nine hundred. Eighty s yeah. They all came out in the nineties. Right they did. I mean let's just call it. What it is. You couldn't be gay on screen in the nineteen eighties. It was this big taboo and if they dealt with AIDS. It was usually like an very sensitive. Tv movie like an Early Frost or like an indie film. Like one of Steve buscemi's early parting glances and none of them talked about it as an epidemic. They were just stories about gay life and one of the characters would be infected with HIV can see. I remember the one aides. Tv movie. I think from the eighties that I remember. It wasn't even about gay life. It was about a got it from a blood transfusion. Oh yeah they didn't even want to address that Ryan White. He was a hemophiliac definitely. Did try to push that narrative and that story and one of the lessons we can learn about pandemic is until it touches everybody. It's very easy to marginalize or at least a celebrity. That's when Reagan notice when his buddy rock Hudson died of HIV. That's when he's like. Oh maybe we should use some government money to research this. Yes it took. I think seven years from becoming does outbreak in San Francisco. Bath houses to being something that the president would talk about. But my dad was there. Here's the weird thing about my life I knew about. Std's before I knew about sex. My Dad led the Public Health Department on Sexually Transmitted Diseases. One of my earliest memories was that he had this shirt that said stamp out sex in really big letters and then in tiny letters at ped- dash usually transmitted diseases and he walked around the mall and people would point. I wanted to just crawl under awry. They just think it was like he's anti-sex because that's what it sounds like. He was so funny to get those reactions but he was there and he'd come home from work and he's looked yes. I'm going to all the gay bars. Were doing all this outreach. Because of this grid this gay cancer as it was described in the early eighties and eventually became known as eights. And if you want to see a movie around this time that was about it. I think you'd have to look at like fatal attraction. I actually think the whole erotic thriller genre is really a Metaphor about AIDS. Like the idea that if you step out on your wife or you do anything. Outside of your monogamous relationship is going to kill you like many cases. It's just a bitch with a knife but she's eight that's what it is. I never thought about it that but I do like those movies and I did think those movies more than AIDS kept men celebrate. Yeah and if you want to see a movie about the AIDS pandemic one of the earliest made. It was an. Hbo Movie in the Early Nineties was based on a book by randy shells and the band played on the movies kind of me but he's got a lot of celebrities in a lot of recognizable faces and it does a good job of at least telling you the history about how it all unfolded and what it was like. During that time when AIDS equal death there were no drugs. There was no hope and many people felt like it was in times. I really liked that movie. When we get to the review of contagion what contagion reminded me. Most of is in the band played on down. But let's talk about a different kind of outbreak. Yeah I'm surprised out of all the eighties. This is the outbreak movie that you picked Zombie Movie. Yeah I mean what? What else is there? I was looking at least this is a movie about does deal with an actual virus was being discussed. Here is real. I don't know if it's accurate to all the symptoms that you can acquire from it but Borna is an infectious disease that did break out in a little German town and we can discuss it so it had some validity that was the criteria. Oh so that part's real. Yes I had no idea that people ever died and came back. That's really happening. I'm not seeing. The screen is an accurate representation. What I'm saying is I looked for an outbreak movie that had some scientific backing and this writer director was very proud to say he did his research and he wanted this to be as real as possible. Who's even behind that like? Did this come out in theaters. I've never heard of warning sign and I saw it a lot. It was always on cable. I think what happened was this is a first time director. It was someone that had worked a lot with Lucas and Spielberg. He was a ghost rider on close encounters and script doctor and work on return of the Jedi behind the scenes. And what have you? And he was finally getting. His first and his last movie Bar would would never direct again but he wrote the script for Sugarland Express and he just knew the right people. I look this guy up. I've seen a ton of his work. Indiana Jones and the fate of Atlantis Indiana Jones and his Desktop Adventures Indiana Jones in his infernal machine. I played all of those. Yeah on the commentary of this Blu Ray that I had. He basically said that he knew even while he was finishing. This movie. Directing wasn't for him he was getting into this whole video game craze. That was happening and that is where he put all of his energy but at the time he thought he would want to try his hand behind the camera after writing so many scripts his thought was. I've written scripts on the cheap. So much can it be that hard to write movies on the cheap so much. The answer is yes. This movie struggled for budget. Fox was very frugal about wanting to give this movie. Anything at the end. I guess it was a big battle with the producers and the studio to studio punishment was. We're going to put you out at the end of summer. August released not good the week after return of the living dead. So you know like if people even wanted to see Zombie movie the much better Zombie Film. They're not going to go to warning sign. This didn't even crack the top twenty disappeared. A blip you wouldn't have known it happened but it was always on cable and I just always saw pieces of it and I wanted to connect to again. I can't say I was excited but I wanted to connect the images in my mind and what they were talking about. It reminded me a lot of andromeda strain that pace the tone the kind of characters that were in it. It felt much more SCIENC- than your average Zombie movie.
Panic in the Streets
"We're discussing panic in the streets starring. Richard Would Mark Paul. Douglas Barbara Bel Getty's Jack Talents. Zero mastel directed by Eliah Kazan. This is the now playing. Co-host who's fond of Shishkabob Arnie Stewart? And this the CO host. Who Likes High Foreheads Jacob? Well we hope everybody at home is healthy and safe and likely quarantined. No matter where you're listening to us from the world. Yeah at the moment of recording. We are all separated apart. Watching the news is one of the shows that we've taped since this pandemic has hit America. We are hearing reports. There are over sixty thousand cases in America by the time this airs. Who knows but we are thinking about this pandemic and checking in with you. You guys told us you were interested in watching movies about viruses. I don't know about that you know I can understand why some people might be like. I want to turn that off. I don't WanNa think about that. It's scary to contemplate when you turn on the news these days. Yeah but people are I think indulging in it in some ways entertainment as of this recording contagion is the number four movie on Itunes and it has been for weeks and outbreak is in the top twenty five and let's face it. We had to kind of fill out our schedule. The new mutants is punted for the sixth time or something but James Bond got moved black widow. The new saw film fast and furious nine and just a couple days ago when we're recording. This wonder woman. Eighty four half of our schedule for the spring has no release date anymore. Yeah I thought it was going to be a super busy month person July and lots of new releases and now we don't know yes and we didn't really necessarily know how to approach virus movies. Either there are a lot of them and we've covered some of them and you can go find those in the archives. Twenty eight days later and I am legend. All the stand. I did a list. I wanted to see how many we've really done if people wanted to do. A full now. Playing virus retrospective. There's the I am legend trilogy. Starting with the last man on earth in nineteen sixty four. Yeah then Omega Man in seventy one. There's the stand from ninety. Four twelve monkeys. That counts right. Nine Hundred Ninety five definitely twenty eight days later two thousand and two resident evil also two thousand two twenty eight weeks later as well. Yep Yep rise of the planet of the apes and then its two sequels but rise. Came Out in twenty eleven. Dare I add it in the name of the King Two worlds. It might make you sick watching it. And there was someone plotting to release a virus. Yes and they did. That's the thing it's not if they were blinded they released it in the Kingdom of EB World War Z. And Day of the dead bloodline. Yeah I think what's different here because we do want to be sensitive. We're not doing the sensational Zombie outbreak. Type films I mean. We talked about all kinds of viral outbreaks. And we really wanted something that that would speak to. What's going on right now. Though yeah I agree I mean I want a very clear eyed view if you WANNA laugh and enjoy camping ones no judgment but it might seem inappropriate to make light of something that seemed so severe the way I thought about it is. It's more interesting even though we're told. Time and again. These are unprecedented times. Mankind has always dealt with viruses. It has always been a part of our story and it was interesting to think that we could go back through the decades and look at the ways that it was presented on film and how the general public thought about contagion and viral outbreaks. And it makes sense that we would start with panic in the streets in one thousand nine hundred fifty film when we were discussing the Tom Cruise film losing it Stewart. You pointed out that in the eighties. A lot of movies were being set in the fifties because baby boomers who were in their formative years in the fifties grew up and now they were writing films in the eighties so setting them thirty years earlier while thirty years or specifically thirty two years before nineteen fifty. The Spanish flu was out there so a lot of people. My Ninety nine year old grandmother is regaling me endlessly with this coronas. Nothing you should have been there for the Spanish flu. Nine hundred eighteen. Not many of us can say that we were there for that but it does sound awful. It killed a whole lot of people. And Yeah that comes up a lot. But even in the nineteen fifties which is the start. I think of the movie. Sub-genre virus movies kickoff with panic in the streets. Nine hundred fifty s were a scary time. That looked a lot like. Are you know right. Now we're thinking very much about protecting our seniors because they're what's at risk for covert nineteen but back in the nineteen fifties. Hide your kids to let them go to the pool. Don't let him play with other kids because if you do they're gonNA get infantile paralysis. Polio I mean the scare was real people close pools. They didn't let their kids out. He was considered a summer plague. School's out and then all of a sudden just populations of people all throughout the United States would suddenly be hit hard and kids would suddenly lose motor function and only able to breathe when they were put into an iron lung interesting statistic by the way it sounds a lot like corona only two percent of the population actually develop the disease and most of those cases were mild. Most of the people were not left with long term disabilities but it did impact a whole generation. I know my mom believes. She was diagnosed with polio. My Dad's second wife had it. You know the thirty second president. Fdr The reason why he was in a wheelchair he got it when he was thirty. Nine years old. You didn't even have to be a kit. People were living like we were back in. One thousand nine hundred eighty. When this movie came out there was a real field. If you send your kid to the movie theater. He touched another kid. This could happen wasn't until one thousand nine hundred eighty five. When Jonas Salk released his cure which was very controversial he was doing things that scientists disapproved of in order to get that vaccine and it worked one monkey equaled six thousand doses of immunization. And before you know it all the kids got to lead the iron lung and come home and famously. He didn't even keep the patent. It's something that warms my heart. When I think about it he thought it was unethical for anyone to profit from this cure and so he gave it away for free so there was panic in the streets in nineteen fifty and I think the other thing that might have inspired. The onset of movies talking about viruses was the smallpox outbreak of nineteen forty. Seven guy got on a bus in Mexico. City drove all the way to New York City. Didn't feel so well with feverish. The whole time went to Bellevue hospital a week later he died. That was when the doctors realized. Oh my God is smallpox. They had had a vaccine for smallpox for over century but because smallpox was so rare like nobody was immune from it so suddenly everyone. That man had come in contact when the bus was infected and it was being you know across the country so everyone literally was being impacted. Kind of like we are now. Everyone potentially could have smallpox what the government did was they started a big PR blitz. They put out commercials on the radio. Tv magazines go to our free health clinics. They opened them up all over the country. Get your vaccines and so everyone could sing the songs everyone knew about shots and the necessity of getting immune to smallpox. Hollywood jumps on trends. If something is big in the news. They're going to come up with a movie about it and I think that's the movie we're here to talk about today. I'd never heard of panic in the streets until we decided we were going to cherry pick. What is what the best the most iconic virus movie from each decade the fifties through the teens. And you said this is the top one on the list I I. I never heard of this. Yeah nor have I. This is totally new to me. I knew by reputation but I've never seen it either. I do think most people know Elia Kazan. He was a director more famous. Maybe for Broadway the stage but he helped pioneer the method acting. So if you know Brando if you know James Dean if you know all of those leading light actors for the nineteen fifties Elliott. Kazan probably worked with them and got them to be the actors that they were. Yeah I did look up this director and and unfortunately Brando. Unless he's in Superman or the godfather I I got a blind spot for his films as well as James Dean so I recognize. Yeah Kazan oh he's he's actually done some big movies but this one isn't one of his that I've heard of
The Coronavirus Conspiracy? Truth and Myths with Dr. Ala Stanford, MD
"Love them. This is a very special edition of on wide with Angela. Rye I have the great privilege of introducing to some of you in reintroducing U. Two others and dismiss that out but what I'm saying Dr Alasdair burglarizing Haxhi physician and surgeon or more than twenty years. She is board certified by the American would have surgery in most pediatric and adult. General Surgery is women's history. Months are would be remiss if I did also notes that she was the first black woman to complete general surgery training at the University of Pittsburgh for her research in both basic science. Clinical Research in also public health has been published in peer reviewed medical journals. She serves as a medical consultant and correspondent. They start healthcare advocate for so many. And why end mother? Thank you so much for joining us today. Dr Ella you in her hands are so sorry. All right so I wanted to do that. I know you know very well and that is before you get started with the patient you wash your hands and since clearly so many of us don't know how to do that. Show his house. So we'RE GONNA turn one water though on with some so the actor who in Armenian ladder the ladder is. You're getting all your finger. You're getting under the your nail and monkeys will say eighty eight songs In your land rain bad for them usually not wearing a rain either. B-actor bars can be bought in your jewelry at rent. Ricky and I bribed mine in thoroughly it there. You can also transmit actor in Mars. Inside legally or ends is sometimes apper Or NOT NEAR. So war can use apple You're clean burs. It's Issue in greater than sixty percent alcohol Eddie. She gave her front in your in in weight or early bride when it diverts most protection Admires her fate. Were thank you very much. Thank now we're ready to go. Dr Ready to start first feature false. I know this is a very serious subject matter so I'm not making light of it but I think the way that we process information. These days is in quick bites. I rather Quick by done to. We're talking to people in ways that they can understand. I want to start your tour. All Cove in nineteen is the same thing as the Kerala virus ninety is the same bay acid lumbar or see is for Arouna. I'm from the buys. Brown and finds all run is or fires in the the is disease. So Ground Myers in nineteen thirty year. It will be nice is okay and then in eighth grade and so the next at shoe or cost Sherpas Cova nineteen was started by consuming bat or frog suit in Wuhan China so a boss or you know get numbers that Arnie is originally from. Okay a thought now I actually others in ager man is at Brown back to hang around which is a mammal ent- year and for Matt was transferred to Houston where it resume at Napa slacks natural place on the later dean at it out. Ninety five percent of course is this mail and then in a hose if so injury binds our sappers as in. As Roma's after that that's how it's mutating ended so susceptible affirmative close or a grown man. He true romance but lightly bands. Wow okay the next one is our falls. Warmer weather can kill the virus so the Kerala virus will go away once Spring and summer come. Awesome writing and explaining our okay. Here's what you're one is driving me. Nuts black folks can get back Rona about back that off off off. But you know we're at our as Arab Americans in our relationships with our healthcare system had not always been off in there. Were chairman there were three of the HP b-cell there were so many days in times. You're tested the tested as lack of trust historic president. The accents that he received offers end is not sub and it doesn't matter At nonsenses Iger these one affluent on or only a is added. Eric Liver is it not is Madison as not guess world a bill is not learning. Its not strangely year. Widens because of the lack of trust fund from sort in present-day Practices Chandler. We can yet. I'm telling you add NAPN narrative. I practicing all listening in other than by Hindu to prevent myself in my family. Am I doing this lead in Dr a more to come on his arm hypochondriac any tissue? I'm running against tissue. Okay tissue sitting here. Wake up a belief in their way. No this that there. Beautiful Up Yours you okay. Here's the next. I'm not biased or anything. But sure off the governor of New York Andrew. Cuomo is he handling this crisis better than Y'all President Donald. J trump age Governor Cuomo is leading by symbol. Yeah and when there are nine lead as accurate Eagle in New Year. He has do you know what I mean. Look you like I have never experienced. Remember the actor about a law. Say That so the fourth largest in the United States is inner twenty million people. Nine know that is buyers Gates Fred. It's clinically in dense conway's New York City. You can't walk down the street without someone and so forth so I think that they're acting east so will lead also protect spread neighboring state. Jerry Nadler is your lab.
Nevada Democratic debate opens with attacks in all directions
"Hours before taking the stage Mike Bloomberg came under attack from his democratic rivals an unlikely preview of this debate debut tonight as the billionaire businessman REITs meets his rivals on stage for the first time both Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden's campaigns took aim at the seventy eight year old former Republican the former raising questions about Bloomberg's health the latter pointing out reversals on key issues the attacks underscore how seriously Democrats are taking the former New York mayor's campaign now that he's rocketed to double digit support in national polls and qualified to appear in debates Bloomberg was a lifelong Democrat before winning the New York mayor's race as a Republican in two thousand two it later switched to independent and formally registered as a Democrat last year his face relatively little national scrutiny and it's surprisingly swift prize from non partisan mega donor to top tier presidential contender but tonight's debate in Las Vegas or Bloomberg faces five opponents in the first major unscripted moment of his two thousand twenty campaign poses the greatest test yet of his on orthodox campaign lonely walk it reports for months senator Bernie Sanders enters tonight's Las Vegas debate with a twelve point lead over all in the latest national poll by NPR PBS newshour and Marist some candidates hope tonight's debate will provide another shake up Massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren and former vice president Joe Biden want their spot light back Biden's pulling around twenty one percent among non white voters nationally is a state that does have a huge diverse population compared ally ally and the New Hampshire almost a third of the population means that Dino so I think real summer some distance as far as the comes concerned demographics aside Fernando Romero president of Nevada Hispanics in politics says about inside the same concerns as the rest of the country healthcare immigration reform education climate change and housing former south bend their people to judge and Minnesota senator any club chart who came in second and third place in New Hampshire respectively want to keep momentum former political candidate and W. NH and radio host Arnie Arneson explains how it to be so close to a vote can have an outsized impact for unfortunately faltered in that last debate Amy did not and as a result what you saw were people who are undecided decided I'm not going with Joe Biden I'm not sure about mayor Pete Elizabeth and so disappointed and eighty got the benefit of that for the first time in five debates billionaire businessman Tom's dire didn't make the cut the other billionaire democratic hopeful former New York mayor Mike Bloomberg did even though he isn't on that about about it Bloomberg qualified with national polls but only because the DNC no longer requires small donor contributions from pacifica network in public news service I'm
Lights, camera, Oscars: Meet the creators decolonizing Hollywood
"I'm Rosanna the dear child. Talking all about rewriting Hollywood's image of indigenous people from the inside and five indigenous. Writers Comics are doing just us that working on a brand new Sitcom for NBC. Called Rutherford falls unreserved producers. Tenant met up with them on the paramount studio lots in La just outside the writer's room where things can get a little silly job Tassell fulltime job. My name is Janisch meeting. I'M MITOCHONDRIA LAKOTA. And I'm a staff writer rather vol's my name's bobby. Wilson I'm secede secede Awan Awan Dakota and I think a little bit of White House staff writer Donahue. My name is Tania as Chavez. I am a citizen. If the Bishop how you tribe molly member one tribe relations are I am Navajo Pie in San Carlo Patchy achieve and I am the story editor on the jets. My name is Tyler Claire. I am Mohawk and mic-mac from from going to walk in Quebec and a staff writer on the show it's pretty great. AFC or analysis Hanish land nearby Cheektowaga Additionally my name is Sierra Teller Analysis I'm member of the Navajo Nation. I'm born of edgewater people in for the Mexican people and I'm also The Cook Creator of Rutherford Falls. I created the show with Ed Helms and Mike sure who both worked on the office in my created partner in Brooklyn I nine and the good place and so we've been working on this developing this idea for about a year and a half now. The show runner is really sort of like the boss. But they're also a conduit between in the producers and the other CO creators and the studio and the network and then also the writers so there's kind of jack-of-all-trades sort of shortstop position. I'm going to say that. This is the first native show runner in America and I would say this is the first TV show that has this many stuff writers and writers that Arnie if I could be wrong but I won't back down. Toss it would be my hype woman. The most basic question to start with what is referred falls. What is it about we such a hard time explaining what the show is? But it's awesome so like definitely spy side in there. I'm not it's all about the town of other falls which is this tiny town in upstate. New York that is adjacent to a native reservation and the town is sort of turned upside down own when there's talk of moving statue that commemorates the founder of the town. This Guy Lawrence Weatherford. And the last Rutherford to live in the town is this Guy Nathan in played by Ed Helms Nathan Rutherford and he just loses his mind over it. And because you sort of can't let go. It causes all these other dust ups in the town including his friendship. unshipped with Scroll Regan. Who is native American one of the things? I think that I love about Mike. Sure shows is that he sets out to really try to say something big in a super funny super assessable way talking about the bureaucracy of government with parks and REC or talking about like. What does it mean to be a good person with a good place and I were two picture shows? People be like what the hell are you talking new out but he has a way of sort of condensing and making it funny and making accessible way that I really enjoy and so I think we're talking a lot about like what are first stories. What does the American narrative? How does that American narrative affect all of us? And I think we've found a way to sort of make funny interesting version of that so for people who can't see where we are. Could you describe have a where we are. We're in a fort on an ancient Hollywood burial ground. There's a couple of Indians in there. I think Joey Ramone Well look at his heir where paramount pictures studio. So it actually is one of the oldest Hollywood studios you on point Bobby. This is the old blue studios which is on bay. Does your Anez and Lucille Ball. It's unoccupied territory and its content. It is one thousand percent haunted. We're surrounded by a lot of videos and so you get to walk past them on your way the office and like look in and see people making TV and movies. It's pretty wild everyday that I come here. I'm like holy. I can't believe this is my life. That's what I say. Every day we'll settle into the office very quickly very very quickly. Bobby put up artwork mark. We got rugs pillows. They got native real quick. Colonial settlers. We settled settled. It's actually one of the nicest writers rooms we've I've ever worked in. They usually look like these like really Friday sad dorms. It's preach ikya plants Manson furniture and blankets. It's nice so many gods so much I was a kid and I would go to my white friends houses they all have pantries ebbs and like French necks and lunch ables caprice and I didn't have that and so this kitchen I feel like is amazing. We are the rich kids now day one we were so like. Yeah if we'd have water beat the great shirts. Gosh I'd love to chat with you about how you work together. What is a day of work? Look like are you making each other laugh Just watched the movie black cloud. It's like that daddy issues. A lot of fights. There's one wall that we we can all punch his. I'm getting a lot of straight answers from the corner here. And it's a pretty traditional writer's room we blue sky and then we just go through and sit on a couch together and talk about the things that have happened in our lives. And that's what's look great but having so many native writers as I feel like being the only native right on a show and ask you a question you have to represent then everybody and what's so great here. I don't have the answer. There's a good chance one of the other writers we'll have it other native writers and that's so it's just so nice. There's such a weight off your shoulders. I was really amazed by how collaborative has been like. I thought we were going to be like Austin delegating. Some like random small space windowless room place. But we're actually like working together on couches is all day making jokes. It's phenomenal so what was the first day working together. Like I can't answer that because I feel like I have a moment. He's he's just a moment because this is the first time that I've had native colleagues in any workplace and it's so cool to come to work especially in TV and be around other native writers. When I had my first meeting with Sierra at Homs was in the room and her and I were just like talking points like she remembered he was there and she was like? Do you have anything that you say. And he was like no. He's this is amazing. And what's amazing is like we get to cut out Indian one on one and we just get to get on on with the humor and the stories and it's super cool. That's the most exciting thing for me that I know on the first day is that it was also the first time I think we've been the majority in any space. It like influences the vibe and the culture of the room for sure and it's just it feels really familial and it also also is I think influencing the storytelling quite a bit. It's it's pretty magical. And what about putting the writing team together were you part of that Sierra. So could you. Could you tell me about how you put a writing team together for this show. Sure I mean it's really just been like I sound like a Pollyanna but like a dream come true in a sense of like. I figured there'd be like one native writer later and have to fight for it and Mike was like. Oh no there should be like half. The room should be native but to two hundred between woman a white guy should be half and half and he just has such incredible influence so the three of us at Mike and I met with a bunch of different writers from all different backgrounds. And it was so cool that you're told all the time well there there aren't out there so it's GonNa be really hard and it really wasn't and it was just a really cool idea of like who are the funny native people that I know or discovering and then we put them all together with a bunch of other funny writers from different backgrounds and friends runs that I'd worked with before. It's a really exciting time because I feel like we're all getting to do something that is like genuinely funny genuinely interesting but also very much from a native have perspective and kind of juxtaposed that with a traditional white American perspective. I think we're going to have multiple native characters. There's like two main native characters on the show who have very the different views of just everything and I think there's something interesting about their scenes where native people are talking to people about whatever and not necessarily about housing native but sometimes and I think the exciting about getting to to write those
Caucus chaos in Iowa
"But first the United States before Americans cast votes for president in November election. The Democrats have to decide who I should nominate their party in the rice against President Donald Trump. Now that happens in fifty states and territories through voting contests called primaries and caucuses. The first race was this week in Iowa and there were at least for two. Is No results extrordinary. There was outright confusion as democratic critic officials sodded quality control if it's to say this is caused democratic anxiety. It's an understatement night. The Arnie the Democrats have spent more than three years questioning the legitimacy of the twenty sixteen election yet now I see the legitimacy of their own democratic process questioned well for more on Iowa and what it means for the shape of US foreign policy. Let's turn to our panel. Doug Bandow is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute in Washington and a former special assistant to President Role Reagan Doug happy to be on Garon. A good cheek is a lecturer in the Department of Government and International Relations at the University of Sydney Sydney and the United States study said. Welcome back to our anger on pretty till we hear. Let's start with this fiasco in Iowa. What did you make of it? Doug Oh it's a disaster aster for the Democratic Party. It's embarrassing. It's an embarrassment for the United States as well and frankly it's a victory for Donald Trump. It allows him to make jokes about the the Democrats across. It makes it very difficult for them to be taken seriously and it creates conspiracy theories within the Democratic Party. It's very bad all around. We're talking about conspiracy theories series momentum appears to be with Bernie Sanders. He's the socialist anti-establishment candidate looks like he's more or less running on power with a Buddha Zhai the former mayor in Indiana but he's over now to win New Hampshire in February but his supporters. Garon I think the party establishment is trying to block. They candidate plausible. Well they saw goes back to two thousand sixteen when we saw really heated primaries raise between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Rick Clinton. We all know how that went end. for a pretty substantial probably portion of Bernie Sanders supporters. This is basically a chance to do the right thing. Now that in two thousand sixteen. They didn't get the result that they wanted so obviously any sort of kind of of issues with with any of the primaries for them will be seen probably probably as a Democratic National Committee's way of Preventing Bernie Sanders from winning the party nomination at the same in time the establishment candidate jibe on the former vice president distant fourth easy damaged goods. Doug Bandow always very damaged. You'll the he's a two term vice president he was in the US Senate for many years. He's someone who has been tabbed as the front runner. He's leading the national polls. You know it's one thing to come. I'm in second you know. I was an odd status. In agricultural status moment western state is really not representative but to come in fourth behind the to Progressive Zan. Dan Buddha gauge is I think extremely damaging. He's moving on to New Hampshire. Where in fact he is behind in the polls you know if he loses both of these you go down to South Carolina the end of the month? You know he's only five points ahead in the last poll if he loses that he has real problems then the conceivable that the other establishment candidate Mark Bloomberg. He's the billionaire former New York. May He's the big unknown he now. It seems wisely was not on the ballot in Iowa but he supported early success for Sanders as beneficial for Bloomberg wagering that it will. You know. Forced moderates lock Barden Buddha Jai to drop out along the way and clear wife or a light swing to Bloomberg grandma so the theory goes and obviously when things come through to be tested in practice we we shall see what what happens. Especially after Super Tuesday but there is this certainly a theory. That really is Biden. Dwindles this leave space. Space for Bloomberg any specially if it comes to Wisconsin in July for the Democratic National Convention and if there is a number of contenders still there is no one would majority there. Might be someone. With plurality Mike Bloomberg could certainly emerge as a kingmaker and and maybe this is the sort of strategy that his companions and that my explain Doug that after this Iowa debacle. He Bloomberg's doubling down on his advertising tossing Spain. But how does he support. Actually Rahm Bloomberg is. I think we'll have trouble getting a lot of personal support on the other hand. He may be seen as the best alternative live. You know somebody who is more centrist orientation. He's smart he's presentable and he has a lot of money he can match any spending from Donald Trump. The problem is he's run as a Republican before he's Kinda cold fish. He's not very personable. He has problems as a candidate. But again word a different world and for Democrats if you're looking for an alternative to the progressives if you're scared of the idea of a millionaire socialist you're representing your party Bloomberg might be the guy in July or he can be the guy to anoint. The person who gets now you've had dealings with Bloomberg. What's the nature of your of your dealings with? The Bloomberg was a couple of years ago bringing in foreign policy people to argue issues. I mean in many ways. It was quite impressive. He sat with us out Bloomberg along with yet a foreign policy adviser and he brought three of us in in my case to talk about Syria. The man is clearly well informed. He understands issues. He's smart. He's engaged. He was down to Earth. The problem is from his standpoint. I think being a presidential candidate is typically ebbing smartening in. That sense doesn't really get you a lot of votes in a way. That being personable empathizing these sorts of things. And he's not really that kind of a character but I was impressed impressed with him. He struck me as somebody who is competent. Who If as president he could very well do a good job depending on what you thought of him on the issues? So I think he'll he. He will make a mark doc in this race. He's a smart guy who's willing to spend tens of millions of dollars you can't ignore. My guests are dot band out from the institute in Washington and Gerona Good. She's from the University of Sydney and the US study center
The Latest: Michigan Gov. Whitmer delivers response to Trump
"On the eve of his Senate impeachment trial ending president trump used his state of the union address to tout a great American come back while making no mention of impeachment when he took office three years ago the president spoke of American carnage under his predecessor now the state of our union is stronger than ever before healing economic and the battlefield gains in making the case for re election America's future is blazing bright a sharp partisan divide was on full display while Republicans chanted four more years Democrats boot before his roughly seventy eight minute speech house speaker Nancy Pelosi extended her hand the president did not shake it to though it's unclear if he saw it as the president's soap in applause after the speech hello see ripped up her copy Sager make Arnie Washington
"arnie i" Discussed on Geeks Under the Influence
"No nonsense it. There's no way that he can just pretend to be dude for twenty years and it's fine and that was my thing is like okay so they they even mentioned in the other movies before. How like once his purpose is served? He doesn't really have a purpose because Skynet gives him admission. That's all he does but I'm not really sure that his immediate response would be to just decide to be a people about it like I don't and the whole point has been dominated than see. That's better than I am. Yeah I don't know what the Russians didn't have time to get they woman move decide to be a people who like makes and in the second movie the whole way that they were able to kind of override his inability to be more human was because they removed moved or broke apart of his his system. They turn them off. They pulled out the chip they. They did whatever they were going to do. He was if he was just sent back randomly and he was supposed to just kill him which he did it very easily but then just kill him out super easily to do that. Nobody did he ever actually pulled that out and reprogrammed him so. There's no reason really that that would have happened in this. Unit of the t eight hundred was just stolen from and from what we saw in previous parents. It's not the same unit. It didn't earn it. Honestly it would just piggybacked on our feelings about that character from previous moves for. John Forged coach all. They tried so hard for that to be like a heartfelt state foams up that was supposed to get it not John. Okay okay well well. He didn't matter the guy you killed me guy. The the the the child murdered on the beach is trying to get some Dick realize taken from you. Well Damn it whatever whatever whatever whatever ultimately yeah we are we are at the tail end anyway. So Terminator Dark Fade out of the AB scale of Awesomeness by volume out of ten. What would you rate Terminator Dark Fate Three and a half give it give it a three and a half hour. Yeah Yeah I mean I I I I think like a force fair. It wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be but that's because my bar was pretty much on the ground very so I'll give it a four sure I'm I'm sitting right around four as well so I think we're all kind of an agreement that it's it's not great. I've seen worse terminator moves. Genesis is like a two one just evaded talking about that it. That's I think maybe the second time genesis is it do. I'm good with. Yeah a decent cast and everything. It's just the plot was fucking stupid. Yup Yeah so I would say if you have listened to this and interest on whether you're not you should see dark fate if you're morbidly curious go and check it out. I'd say this is definitely something that you don't need to be in a rush to you. See wait until it comes out on like red box or or Amazon or something and a and try it then if you really are interested. I don't think it's going to be very soon before. We see another terminator movie. This might take the windows and sales a little bit even though apparently these scores are good the going to the theaters to see. It is not nope. They're not on doing very well on the box office. So that's definitely gonNA delay any future terminator movies which you know what maybe they need to take a timeout. Put Terminator in a corner And let it think about what it's done and hopefully we'll come out with some realizations and then I'm out if we do get another terminator movie. Maybe they'll be mindful about about how to approach it and maybe just not rehash it hangover to wasn't good because it was basically the same thing as saying over one. They made a third one learn and yeah they did not learn so people didn't either. That's how we got our of nine. Yeah they didn't learn learn learn learn so so hopefully you'll learn a few things from us on this episode of Gigs under the influence. Definitely podcast.
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"Draw walk. You want here you go. I love it so much every had that for years. Now I never get tired of that a smash up the sheer tonight is a perfect pairing. Welcome for For Terminator Free. That Manda was nice enough to bring us whatever you sipping on this evening. So I chose the devil's backbone Schwartz Spear It is actually one of my favorites of their beers I I like doubles backbone in general but this one's always been kind of my favorite. I'm a porter stout person so I like that dark rich flavor But I kinda dig spirit. Because it's just a black lager you get that flavor but I don't feel full after having them so I can just keep going. You have some. It's got a little bit of body. It's not thick like a like a longer. Yeah it's a logger. But it's got that richer flavor five point one percent low ivy us so it's very drinkable able for being here. This is a bonfire beer. Four Shula let's this the roasted molten it to you get a char on the back end of it. And I mean the name Cologne is very episodic. What I do is that it does have a little bit of I wouldn't even say bitterness. But yeah that the char- kind of approach to it. That gives it a little bit of that. Mommy kind of. There's some some deeper notes in there besides multi you get some of the beers. There's a little bit of dirty in there. You you know and it really gives it a little bit of balls for being only five point one percent. I mean you you can tell your drinking a beer but on the same end that you can definitely definitely session. That's no problem you're also drinking a dark beer And also it's called spear for the Arnold Schwarzenegger affronted series of movies. So this is definitely a good pairing to go with Terminator Dark Fate very well done. Also WanNA WANNA give a shout out to my new favorite local wineries speaking a local Devil's backbone is from the Nelson County area on the bridge trail route one five one in Nelson County which I in my girlfriend recently just came back from Over last weekend. And that's an we've talked about a number of times on the show. How much fun it is to go out there? We've gone as panelists just a dude's weekend or panelists weekend and we've gone with like significant others or whatever over the years and it's always a blast this. This is a new winery that I think open twenty eighteen that I have not had the chance to check out up to this last visit. And got there with amy right before sunset on Saturday night and we did the tasting and I was astounded that every single wine tasting list. I think it was seven wines. Every single one was delicious. Which doesn't happen normally even Rosa which I normally am not a big Rosa Fan was delightful? Everything really shine. So I would definitely suggest if you have the chance to go out to September winery. It's onto fifty right nearby prone Outta the The brewery out there. It's still right down the road from one five one one so it's right in that same area. It's not much of a drive at all the one that I was really blown away by was there. I believe it's their flagship. The Coleman which is a red blend that they do not a super heavy body. But it's on the heavier side for their list of of wines that the blends depending on what your they have. But I was just floored by light big fruit flavors rich. Just the right amount of Tannin where it has that bite to it. But it's not overplayed where it sucks all the moisture out of your body you know. It's incredibly good. And it's gorgeous winery. There's a reflecting pool that we're sitting across from while the Sun was setting over the mountains. It was picturesque beautiful iconic moment mm-hmm and sound serene. It was incredible so not only is wanting to re beautiful but the wind is incredible. They were very nice and yeah I thoroughly suggest going and checking that out when you have a chance. Chance when you're in the areas centenary winery killer by probably my favorite winery out there now so yeah and lowdown what are you sit on this evening. Oh No I'm drinking on some trash fucking movie jingoism Natta days. which is you probably needed? A few those after seeing dark fate for share unfortunate at work and get it before so I had to go on just like calm myself down and go try to go to sleep. You just have to just take it in for a while. Just set a ticket digging egging in something that you want to vomit out is not right. fucking movie speaking vomiting out. I think that's what it's GonNa get a sound like For the next segment. Some peoples favorite segment is one of my personal favorites. We're talking about making a drunken scene gene.
"arnie i" Discussed on Geeks Under the Influence
"Not have terminator knockoff. Music there for the show. That's like Genesis. Fuck first off our panel episode before get really into dark fate To My right a diehard fan of the Terminator Series has allowed sighing right. Now Yeah but I mean yeah that should be just what we put our review. I Dark Betas. I mean Gene Cy. Yeah that's kind of how I feel about it. We've got to know strom. Oh here and did did you check it out opening night or know about opening night so I kinda wanted to see it but realistically I explicitly Lee Witt saw it in tears just so I could talk about it because I was excited because I was like Terminator and James Cameron and yes and then it happened and yeah so here we yeah and that movie watching someone's been a lot of money on that someone that is in fact my partner in crime here on the influence network. My right hand man on my left bringing pretty wide open commentary about stuff. You don't pull punches really at all industry down Brown macgyver was gone. Everybody my terminator two t eight hundred to my Edward Furlong. Aw Aw is that you don't have human emotions are stronger than me so yeah. It's not too far. Nobody but this movie suffered. I think I read an article like last week or was I think it was the Monday after it came out so it would have been like the third I think and it was like the movie faces the lose one hundred million dollars. Oh yeah that sounds about right this is gonna be really hard for them to come back and actually make another either one. It didn't it didn't take that hard. It's got like a plus on rotten tomatoes not only from the rotten tomatoes. Yes tomatoes but also from the viewers Reviews really positive. It's above fifty percent. But by how much okay. Genesis was like twenty. Yeah okay I'm just saying like if a bomb a bomb. Terminator Movie Is One that has bombed is like we're talking. Twenty three percent fifteen percent genesis. I don't think I saw had a few friends check. Check it out before I had a chance to and then I also saw the reviews and everybody was like eight tire fire. Yeah Yeah I don't I don't know how this God the ratings it did but it did and apparently people ooh alike it I guess they like a aborted Terminator two look. I basically. It's the K.. Mart of Terminator Two. That's that's what it is. It's it's kind of like a nostalgia piece let's see Walmart brand of Versus the dollar tree. Urban Genesis is the a yard sale. Find The missing an arm name on the bottom of the shoot. Actually figure were Terminator Franchise. That wouldn't die like the REV seven or whatever. I'm sorry I didn't mean to undersell the REV nine but you disrespect by revenue so yeah dark fate eight holy crap. Yeah man like. I don't know where to start with this. WELL WE'LL START WITH I. Am Mike The hobbit. Oh that's right. I forgot to introduce you brought up immediately. Went into absolutely fair. You know. There's a lot of feelings that are gonNA be expressed but yes the the man to my right. The the founder of Geeks only influence now where we might have been. Yeah Yeah I watched this on Tuesday dark fate and yeah. I made time for this movie. I had to work in it was not. It was not okay with that that halfway through. I'm like I could've been doing something else right now. So that's I think that happened. Also thing that happened this past Sunday was our booze cruise. Live show at the The dark room. Yeah as I said rotten tomato viewer reviews. Eighty four percent gave you the one that's going to drop a bit probably shouldn't have never got that high. No never people smoking crack before they go into the fucking movie. Jesus Christ iced. Sorry I can't I can't accept that. Make it a very different movie too. But it's like eighty four percent from viewers. That's that's a high high. Yeah that is very high like it's really hot. That's actually like Oh okay I I definitely want to check that out for an action SCI FI movie you're not gonNa get in the upper ninety s okay so basically in comparison. I believe the first weekend after the first weekend of joker. That's where the reviews red and that movie was Goddamn stellar talking trash can now ultimately I kind of want to start with dark. Fate is this is the return of Linda. Hamilton the franchise this Arnie's back playing a eight hundred. Not not the T to eight hundred. This is an entirely different one. That and this is where where I had. The most issue with this is that the model is the same. So it looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger but he's been living as a human for like twenty years or something the end. So he's the only reason that you have any kind of emotional connection to this version of the t eight hundred is because it's it's relying on that by the audience for Knowing it from the previous terminator movies it didn't earn any of that in this movie. I mean the fact that it was allowed allowed to talk long enough to Linda. Hamilton for her to begrudgingly agree to work with the thing that killed her boy which would never. I'm never have happened. It would remember that. But it'd be like I don't care if this is a bad decision or not like logically but I'm going to murder him. That's going to happen as I was watching this movie. I'm sitting here okay. So now he he sells drapes. So essentially it's like his mission has ended and now he's like the butter robot from Rick. And morty pretty like this is just what you do now. So he's gone from being a murder machine to drapes and he's just going to be a people about it for a while and I. I felt so many ways. About why drapes. Oh make him a fucking carpenter or something like some thing that suggests that he's using his strength third physical prowess to do the thing. The drapes is just such a weird choice and I know they were doing it for the laugh to think you'd use with that but it's just it's it's stupid and it was so heavy handed because it was like they even had that low conversation is like really you're GonNa stop and talk about like the right drapes to make room for your daughter and get coffee at but so the my original theory was because during the trailer didn't know if it was going to be the eight hundred injured right even though you saw get destroyed but then you know that model you saw terminator and the one that got sent back again to got destroyed. See I guess you knew. It wasn't the same one but so lead me to think that they're okay. They're not going to bring out another eighteen hundred right. I would much rather have been. That he was is connected to a future with Skynet. And that was the person they modeled him off but they didn't do that because even though he if he was like you know part art of Skynet and he was what they used. The Model T hundred with that future changed so east. You would still be a free person doing whatever he wanted to do right. That was EXAC- what I was thinking too with the trailers is that it was worked with Skynet. They used his kind of look to be the base model for the eight. Hundred's kind of deal that that deal and even in the storyline where he's sending coordinates for Linda Hamilton to go find them and kill them. He's still the guy that you know. Let's say skynet went to kill him. uh-huh he'll daddy when when it becomes self aware so he already has some knowledge of the Skynet version of the future and was able to kind of glean winter stuff is happening. And that's why setting coordinates. Whatever all that Shit better movie than who God I just clean that from just that one moment in the trailer and on the brain movie that I made just clearly better also? I WanNa talk about that. In this movie they talked about that every couple of months. There was a new terminator that appeared the the coordinates were set so she could kill it. And I'm like that's a better movie instead of doing the same fucking thing. That happened. Terminator two where. There's one person that's the savior that everybody's got to protect and then terminators good allison and helps protect terminator.
"arnie i" Discussed on Geeks Under the Influence
"You try some torture. shortridge hurts scream and he like. Oh this is this. Is I tell you tell you what. It'd be a better movie to watch pinhead Terminator Dark Fate was only Shit. It would just call it. Terminator versus the Senate Bites and people book and take my money. I guess we'll see that in the terminator solve the puzzle box and like point four second in terms of comes out like Nah it goes back to the hell where he comes out and gives his speech and intermarriages crushes. The box destroyed forever. And okay sad face. He's going to get the best in like turns around and before he leaves. I'll be back in terms like that. My Line you so dumb. It would be amazing movie. It would be amazing because we've got a pretty versus Jason. I don't see why we can't do a terminator versus Pinhead. Yeah that's true to that argument. Yeah so it happened. Just love to see somebody please. was funnier. Could you make like a quick fifteen minute clip of Terminator. It puts his head and we're also talking about two properties right now that kind of on their their twilight You know you got a new guy playing pinhead into how razor that that Clive Barker's just completely called out on twitter. Be Like I'm not involved in this horse shit. You're calling the hellraiser movies. He's not into it anymore. And then we've got Jim Jim Cameron coming back and bringing us really lackluster terminator movie. Yeah Yeah it's I said I felt with the most of the last twenty years of Cameron movies. I kind of want my money back a little bit. I mean I'll make the money back Tom. They said I mean. I don't care what people say about Avatar like it wasn't worth my time now and I've seen fern gully. Yeah it's just a a live action. FERN gully yes without the voice of Robin Williams as little back guy. He was awesome and Tim. Curry was the villain. Yeah yeah the pollution based so much better so much better and then now just WanNa Watch fern gully on the DVD on the DVD. And then. What was that before that can? We gave us. What titanic come on? Analyze was fun. Okay Fun man. I love that movie Jamie. Emily everyone who died Jamie the cursor just got to see everything else. She was rocking which was awesome. Yes God damn. She's fine as hell absolutely and that was it was fun. We it's. I'm all help a lot with that. Too Yeah camp on the comedy. That was probably the best role that he's ever done which is not a high bar. July's other suffused on Roseanne. And like no the person for a while. And that's it. I guess I feel again Ganda. He was like I was losing that show dogs or something about a family of idiots which you're talking about not having to really stretch. Sure acting coming in hard for Tom. Arnold James Cameron because come on doing I heard your attached to did. They gave me hope for this sequel. Because we've been like the franchises basically dying slowly every once in a while you just Kinda poke and then give us something bands. Everybody's sort of poking and that's what we're going to be talking about on this episode. I won't get fair warning if anybody has not seen fate that is worried about spoilers. The remainder of the show we will talking spoilers. I'm dark fate though. I personally don't think it's that important. It's really not. Yeah so if you were kind of hemming and whether you WanNa Watch dark fate Give a listen to the episode and decide that you don't want to go see it Sorta Talking not just about Dark Bay. We're GONNA be talking about terminators. There's one two three and salvation gems and all other stuff relating determinator on this episode of Gigs under the influence and welcome..