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Things We Dislike: DC United in Philly & Washington Spirit on Turf

RFK Refugees Podcast

59:37 min | 3 months ago

Things We Dislike: DC United in Philly & Washington Spirit on Turf

"Welcome boys and girls podcasts. At here john here he everything. Dc united washington. Spirit us men's women's national team. It's all here all the time. John how you doing my friend. Yes gregory i do have a beard. Now yes he does. We're trading. We're only allowed one beard per show. So ted is now ownership of the beard. I'm good. I'm very tired after last week. I don't know about you. I mean i know about you. That was a rfk refugees packed week. And we'll probably sort of wrap up on all all that was in. How will never do so many podcasts. And when we again but also the soccer. Yeah i. I yes gregory. I am from the darkest timeline. That's how this works. Anyone knows a second second community reference to drop on the show anyway Bs a lots of Apparently we don't learn our lesson because we're going to repeat it rahm gonna. Maybe i'd get a bit of what you did. I did one. I did one podcast. I'm doing to We are going to be having a tyler Terrence i hope. I'm saying that right Only choke gatorade for the show and mark fish skin To help us cover chicago in your rebels respectively mark. Of course good friend of mine from the days and Tyler does the play by play and also hosts a podcast with arlo white. So we get to talk all about how jealous are to be next to to the greatness that way and i'm sure we'll talk. Chicago's well yeah. I would lean heavy chicago. I've been very curious to see how he thinks that we're like. Yeah no he is great. He does smell wonderful. I love are low in case in case. You didn't listen to every episode last week. i invite you to go back to the archives. We now have an episode with Interview actually hatcher. The second time she's been on the show the week she one and w ourself player of the week. We interviewed kevin hayes. Who i thought i was going to give the arche refugees bump into a great performance and then apparently he was actually injured. While he was training the national team so at opposite did not did not have the intended effect. And then we had the do on the river podcast Where apparently a lots of people thought that. Maybe they were a little bit too confident. And then we'll talk about how how that bore out for us on the on the on the weekend. They had every reason to be confident because their team just went out and beat. Dc united So they were right. We were wrong. I was kind of coming into this game thinking. Okay all right. Got some injuries. We got some. We got an opportunity here. Hey they got. I think i looked at their players. That were missing for either injury suspension or Go cup and i was like okay. I think this if we're going to beat this team it's going to come in this game because they're missing lots of different players And i was wrong. The villa viewed and coming out two one. Victors over the Over the over over Dc united. Sorry my internet connections hope. I'm sounding okay. You like mom okay. Although i just realized that what we're saying jersey and that was probably a visual mistake. We we look you're wearing we are not wearing the same We are not Wearing the same jersey we are. I am wearing the authentic jersey your way throughout the jersey anyway. Back to the game Dc united a two one losers two one losers to the philadelphia union So i i have trouble with. I think this game was was viewed by me. Leases a okay. This is where we're going to see kind of where this game where the steam stance Where does this team actually sit in the table. Where do they sit in the actual Where the where do they sit. Are we actually as good as as are as we as we think. We are And i don't know if the answer is necessarily know the. I don't think the answer is yes. I don't know if the interest silly now John gimme some of your. Gimme some of your thoughts. Give me some what you watch. This game live. What were some of your thoughts on the game. I mean the thing that you take away is that The union sort of big league. D- denied i think in the in the post game at a called united college team and that they were not thinking strategically beyond the game right in front of them. The philadelphia i think somebody else somebody else called it. I think it was I don't wanna get the name wrong. So i just won't i won't speculate but somebody on twitter was basically saying you know how in rec league. There's always an older team that uses the dark arts fast anymore and not not the affiliate old but as far as like the mind game strength is so strong that they can beat anybody. That's kind of what happened here. I don't think denied ever adjusted phillies tactics. They never adjusted being kicked up and down the field over and over again we have players fallen left. And right we'll talk. We'll talk about that. we'll talk about. Maybe it's luckily. Some of the injuries may not be as bad as we thought But it was it was. It was a game where they just could not adjust to The style play and they had to know what was going on ahead of the time but They had they went down early on and on a goal that they will not be happy conceded Let's start with the positive first minutes. Were actually pretty bright. They were great team. I mean they were getting attacking soccer. You have meal aside. I want to talk about him because he probably had some of the best chances of the game. But i don't think he played a good game and i don't get it a little bit of kind of what kind of what i'm thinking about that I i don't want to play terribly. I i just don't what i see from him and this was his best game. Analyst still wasn't enough. And i think there were moments when you meal would get the ball and i'd be like all right. Go forward and he would kind of like pica's head up and try to think about what he was going to do next. And i thought that actually on at least a couple of chances I thought that really hurt the team. In a lot of ways you know. They had the odd man rush. You know to use a hockey term. They had the the advantage. I remember very specific late. In the game on a i think it was a misplayed ball by By philly that was sort of picked up and you meal. I think had either birth or somebody on the run and i thought he plays a ball in there. That's a goal instead he tries to like dribble and think about it a little bit and and i don't think that fits what assad is trying to do. Lozada wants to play a style. That's going to be go for it and attack. And i thought it hurt the on a couple of a couple of occasions there. I disagree pretty extensively. I just looked just to make sure see what foot mobs take was on the game. They add him as man-of-the-match an eight. Oh i thought he was more dangerous. And more forward-looking than he has been all season long. He'd confidence dribble to players on the goal aside. I think he had two chances in before his goal That were sort of vintage there. Were i mean he's not gonna make every play he's gonna make every pass positive but i thought overall And i have to watch the game again. It's been you know you only get a little bit of an opportunity as the games are going live. But i thought i was actually. I was pretty pleased with his flight. Probably best full gainey owned by eighty five minutes but his best Stint so far this season does that mean. There's not room for improvement and could definitely is. But i think overall That you know i was i was i had more problems. Parts of the field. I thought you said you know. They started really brightly They took it to him on the road. You're starting to say. I think i think there'd be lots of confidence tweets about lozada ball at that point like ac. We can do it against the good teams we could do it on the road against toronto And then unfortunately conceded somewhat early. I think right now what you're getting in there as there. There's just that lack that little bit of I it's i guess we'll call it an intangible factor that allows you to go in and win these games and i think that's what kinda dc's missing right now. They're just missing that that little bit of extra. Whatever they they played the out. I mean they they probably had the better of play arguably the goals bound And the gold get the first came out of a out of a method opportunity An imbizo badore worked very very well to put in Sergio santos from from very close. So that was a a the second goal. Was that the goal where bill hamid was very upset. I'm trying to remember now. I think that that was the goal. That i made Stuck his leg out to the right hand side and got past moves very upset about it. It didn't seem like something he should have saved like just sort of it was a it was a breakdown in pressuring the midfield and also just very positive counterattacking the second goal. I think we're just a general breakdown i will say. I think any hard deserves a little bit of blame for the for the first i think if he stays i think what he tries to do. In that scenario maybe it still ends up in the back of the net But i mean he is trying to do what you know. Maybe what lozada's teaching which is pressure on the ball of the ball's coming down the side and he basically leaves that basically leaves that entire Right side completely wide open And if he's going to do something like that he better get the ball because if he doesn't get the ball then we'll see what happens. So i think i'm any heart. Disease may be a little bit of little bit of blame for that goal I think if he holds his position. follows the attacker. I think he gives and trust that his other defenders can track back. I think they kind of hold their shape a little bit. And i think they may be able to sorta ride that but he sort of commits to try and to go. Get the ball. I and this is and Basically it's a wide open net and and it goes through. Bill means legs. I think he might have been more reason to be upset about that. Because he gets nutmegged. i mean bill gates at on the ball in the net. You watch him. He gets he gets angry in the ball strikes in it But i mean to to to be fair. And i think the important thing the positive you can draw from this game is that this is a team that is still i. I've watched many games against philli us last season. Two thousand nineteen i. We're the team. Absolutely just lay down. A philly has owned our lunch and in in in several respects. I can't remember the last time we actually played a good game against philly and got victory. it's been a while. Yeah and if but it feels like it does feel like it's getting a little bit closer now. It feels like if this team can. Maybe you know maybe get some players in the off season Maybe they're a little more healthy. Maybe the gold cup atman seems like they've just had bad luck when they've been playing in this season If i think if you have a you know maybe help areola back Donovan pines some players like that that are missing obviously may be a a healthy floor as maybe that game turns out a little differently So it's it. It was a rough game Then of course you had. I think had to be personally pretty bad. Luck for for dc to go down and then immediately two minutes later the game gets called off and then what was it like an hour hour and a half Rain delay. i believe until they didn't re pick up the game until like eleven o'clock So then to come back out of their means tie a goal and you've just basically been able to sit around and stew for like an hour or so like that had to be difficult To try to come back from that they also they also sent the dc united fans home. Unfortunately they they're like we're not planning go home and then of course they didn't play and i think they watched the rest of the game from the bus. I think you know the s. They looked better maybe than they have in recent games the debt and the challenging side. There is that you know we just talk about how shorthanded philly was. Also so this is not phillies. Best best punch. It's not our best bunch. But i think that It's hard to really judge. We i think. I think we've talked about this ahead of time. It's hard to really when you have two teams that are short handed in a time period where we don't break for national breaking. You're just trying to see what's going to happen with also injuries all over the place. It's hard to really say where you're going to stack up at the end of the season. It's a very it's a very snapshot in time type type thing but the injuries that they sustained in this game were interesting in that they both they. They came in pairs which is unusual to have to have four. Subs come in to windows. Because two players get injured at the same time Russell canals was. I think i had man on the street angus young. They're looking at the the players as they were injured russell. Canals had his shoe off in his in his sock off. And he's limping off the bench. Adrian perez took himself off the field while play was going on and and Also had helped. Also i think additionally an ankle injury the injury that was very concerning. I think we were. I was panicked. Tweeting about it is. Is steve birnbaum. coming offer. an ankle injury. He looked very concerned when it happened. Obviously after he got basically he he got put on skates and tried tried to make try to make an athletic play to stop the the the final goal from being scored could not do so. But apparently it's not it's not related to injury is is long-term injury so that's that's good. It's unclear how long he'll be out. It could be it could be a high ankles brain and that could be a long time but at least it's not related to the multiple surgeries that he headed his ankle. So that's something we could be. Happy about. And then nigel. Roberta also went down. I didn't. I didn't necessarily see what happened to him. I hopefully that's minor because we're pretty short handed at the well. Look amara is still He was missed due to family. A family issues. So we'll see how. We'll see who. We line up on wednesday johnny boulevard man. That's that's who we lineup. He's been apparently called up Eric sorge eric sorge has As apparently we'll go to loudon for the for the for the. I guess the sort of swap of international players are still waiting for Sore goes green card to to come through But apparently i think golf said he will probably remain in international through the rest of the season So the dampens. Any hopes certainly says up the team for next year. I will say there will be a chance to check out some of the post game stuff But there were some interesting interesting comments from From lozada if anything if anything Where where's his. Wears his heart on his sleeves when he's in his press conferences. He is nothing but honest about what he thinks and he will tell you what he thinks. and won a couple of things first of all he sort of expressed maybe slight frustration. At the fact that the team Is not has not signed anybody or isn't talking about signing anybody's seemed to say. Hey i need some new players in here. I need some help if we want to get more out of the team this year i need some help And so that that was certainly that was interesting. Comment number one As jonathan m highlights here Shows how badly we need to finish her. And i would agree with that I think i think both the camara and our neighbor bertha can be serviceable but if we want this team to really take it to the next level They need to find somebody who can really really consistently put the ball in the back of that. And i think i think now that that's almost proven. Maybe that's johnny boulevard. We'll see we'll get he'll get his chance. I'm sure this game might even get his first start But will it'll be interesting to see kind of how he just he did. He has looked really good in loudon. Any has looked really good in In the games against up and the friendly against but again those aren't aren't real mattress so to speak but we'll see i was too loud adams. Yes you get back though. Right can help out. We'll see but hey you know that's that's the nature that's the nature i it johnny boulevard comes out and it makes an for himself. I'd say he'd be the first non academy player to actually have something may have had basically make a difference and sort of show the show the worth of of getting those games and signing those players and putting them in the position. I because we've seen plenty of players in the past that have not been able to excuse me till to hold up to that second also. He said he seemed to be pretty frustrated. With the fact that pratice came down with an injury going to the national team I'm not sure maybe if he said anything at the time but it seems to me like maybe maybe a little bit upset At the at the national team for for what happened In that game take that. Take that with what you well to what you will Any other any other thoughts you want. Have on this game Before we kind of wrap it up. Yeah i mean. I think this was a it was a game in which we weren't. I don't think we played exceedingly poorly. Think they're things had a you know things. Things didn't go their way and injuries really. Hose them. I think they they were. They were really in a position. Where any sort of tactical changes. They wanted to make already shorthanded. Centreback already shorthanded At the nine were were going to billy. Who's them if anyone wrong and everything went wrong. We've had four entries and one game so i i'm really interested to see what kind of team we can put together cobble together for a two game week continuing to miss or international players pines at least game the play now For for the us national team so at least it makes sense that he's gone But there you know. I'm not. I'm not too concerned about it. I think this is this tells you about where where we're at and sort of like mentality. He i think you know as he made his college team common. He sort of talked about the idea. Like sometimes you have to be smart and take the point so sometimes what you have to do and to me that is. I'm wondering if he's making that point clear at halftime or you know shouting out sort of to to the team. After the scores level like you know be conserved yet the halftime to have that conversation so if they really is not the first time he said that right. He's made that comment multiple times now about sort of being smart about the game state and not taking chances that you don't need to take i think new york city f c was another opportunity for that but You know we'll see we got. We got a really big challenge. You gotta you gotta get against chicago even on the road. yeah New york a tougher tougher beat in chicago although chicago has won some weird games Which will probably move. Won't get intimate. We'll get into in the preview like they've ad they needed. Lana i think they'd beat another team. Maybe another team that they should not have beat. So it's you never know they. They are an improved team. And i think this is going to be an interesting match up Almost i think a semi trap game for this team Because i think we're seeing this team play well but but has also started to kind of put it together. e- three p. c. Says moore struggles in this system. And i think we sort of we. We've sort of talked about. I think the problem with joe samora is that right now. If you wanna play in lozada system in that wingback role you need to have really really good offensive ability. Juuling russell has it. Kevin prayed has it and more does not more still kind of your classic right know right back type of player. He'll maybe be in support But he doesn't really have a really good sense to drive forward If you wanna talk about a position. I think you could see dc look in the transfer window. It could be in that role to bring somebody in. I think i think this might be. Unfortunately i think i think more may be seeing his way out after the season. I don't know if he quite fits the system and honestly He might be a player. If i'm if i am if i am lucy russian. I'm looking at. Hey he still would have some value. I could see some teams any play a different style of different setup where he might have some value if this team wants to open some transfer space and And bring in maybe some some different players so He'd be a player i would. I would say at least shopping around. Because he's not that expensive he still has a very solid Solid wingback type players so That that's something to certainly watch. I'll be curious to see because these. He's going to have to if they want to. If they wanna get some players they're gonna have to open some roster spots because right now at the maximum amount of roster spots That's why they're having to sort of send Back down to bring up To bring up. Johnny beliefs are so We'll see what happens is going to be an interesting game against against chicago. I think that that's the game. John let me tell you this. Would you be happy with a point of that game if dc gets appointed chicago happy. Yes no no. No i would not be i. It depends on what are depends on where were calibrating. Our expectations versus right. I think if we're if we're talking about the team that beat toronto seven to one and had us filling very full of ourselves and talking about the offensive juggernaut. This team is. I would not be satisfied with that. If we're talking about well we still need a bunch of new players and we're not there yet and you know maybe we can speak into the playoffs. Like expectations in the aggregate. Now you take one step back from that and look at all the injuries we just faced and said this might be a cobbled together lineup. Maybe you have to be happy with a one point and you have to. You have to once again. Just take the game in the exact minute. That jurat so Overall i would not be happy with it i can. I can convince myself after the fact if the game was positive that were ends up that way before we before we want. We'll talk about another player. That i think is not a fit for the system or at least is not the player that he once was at least currently and i want to give a big disclaimer. That he's probably still working back to fitness. He hasn't played in a long time. But you already. Raina has not impressed me in the style of play in his pace in his decision. Making and i don't you know. Obviously he's gonna get some opportunities now. I think there is a. There's a good chance that he will particularly with these injuries upfront. He'll get more minutes than he would. Maybe worn otherwise. Also it will be interesting to see if when His international teammate as employers comes back. Maybe there's an opportunity to create some chemistry but i have not been impressed. What have you had an opportunity to really press judgment on how he's played since his comeback from injury he was one of those players that was kind of hoping. I'm like a things if he if he can put it together he might. We might have something here. But i i agree with you. I think it he got a good opportunity to really show something and he did. He's going to get a couple of other opportunities. maybe he develops into something. But i just i don't think he's a good fit. I mean he was last season he was essentially a emergency player when it looked like dc. Maybe still had a chance to to to make the playoffs. He was very much a emergency type player to sort of try to you. Know the the edson buttle type signing who kinda like we need something let's get let's get him in there on eight hundred k. Or something in the neighborhood. So i can't i i. I don't know what the trade breakdown is. But i mean i know. I'm pretty sure that probably of an couvert may be paying a portion of that salary Adding last year. I think if we ended him. I think gotta we gotta look back in the archives or if anybody is board amongst the fills it on chat. I believe the deal was They they covered a portion of his fees. In the year he came over. He was uninspiring. Deal if we picked up his option. Dc united both. Pay the full freight end. Oh a more money back to vancouver for having some agreement or if they sold them the same thing so either way i. i don't think either are happy with with where he's performed but he's gonna he's going to get some opportunity here. I think in the next two games so hopefully he puts them together. He i mean he's paying for it but probably that year i'm guessing that option was for a year So i imagine that this is a year. I think this was a. We didn't have anything else in the in the in the tank. Let's just pick up his option Pay the fee right now at least the solid option and then we'll figure it out so I think he goes. I think it was worth it to give him that opportunity And will he. He's got he's got an opportunity to show it now. Maybe you know maybe he can work himself into the system We'll we'll have to. We'll have to wait and see. I would also exciting details. Hopefully got no saying hopefully edison come back to i. I wanna see. I'm a bit worried. I'm waiting for him to to make his return. It was supposed to be a on. The fourteenth was to play on that wednesday and he hasn't returned. So i'm getting a little worried about him. Yeah also exciting. Chris data makes the eighteen for the first time in the accounts of the season. Also drew coverage Mr mr andy sullivan has returned After a meniscus surgery and injury. So that's good from a deep perspective particularly while this team is dropping like flies. I bet you that Would not have liked to get those players in very soon but i have a feeling that He might he might be getting in a little bit sooner than maybe he wanted to. Although kevin brady is basically said that you don't get on that unless you're a hundred percent ready to play so i could be wrong. We could. It may not have just been numbers but the fact when you have to to backup goalies on your bench means to me. You're trying to make numbers that that it's less about the options on your bench. More about we'd have some people here anyway. That aim is now. We've got an opportunity to make six points this weekend. We'll see we'll see how we do. I think i. I think of this team can get four points this week. I think we'll call that. A success agree. I for four points would be successful. Anything more than that. You know four six would be six plaza. Be fantastic One thing i do want to say is So we how struggling that game was. But i mean can can. Can we talk about the fact. That dc united was the team that nailed there. Coaching higher. When you look at the two other teams the two other big money teams that have now had to fire their coaches utah. You're talking about toronto. And then you have almost like almost like an identical situation happened in atlanta. I do wanna talk about this. Yeah this is crazy. This is crazy nut story and and and and just in every sense of the word. It's it's it's unbelievable. So i don't know if you remember too. But or gabriel. Heinz is doing big actually. Dc had a similar thing happened in two thousand and four with jazz and five or six or whatever with peter novak appeared that gotta choose of doing the exact same thing withholding waterfront players. Doing all kinds of things. I guess in that era of of of soccer you could get away with that But this is sort of a new era. You've got a little. You have teams. Now that are designed to measure how how hydrated players are So and apparently the forget. The guy on fox has the story about this. It isn't it is incredible to me that a team like atlanta and you know i feel like atlanta. Eventually they're going to. They're going to bounce back up but just a completely struck out to coaching signings in a row and this is a team that has literally every single resource. They have resources that that are non masada would would like would would desperately want like the training facility everything they have all these resources and they have just completely whiffed onto major Major coaching signings. Even and even. I think the divorce signing looks like a incredible coaching signing compared to. This hines assigning. I mean unbelievable and just like it was almost like we need to go get a south american. They find this guy. They take him You know the the apparently this was something common to that happened while he was at a velez sarsfield where where Millicent spent some time. So i mean not even a call like your meal and be like even lucy. Russia was there and us. Hey what is our gabriel heintze. Maybe you told them. I don't know but man just a lack of researching this had to be. Well known. I mean you call it. You call the former employer for a reason i mean just but just absolutely with on the signing unbelievable. Just absolutely incredible. Yeah you gotta think that bocanegra should be brushing up resume. Because you don't get to make. I mean he. Obviously ernie els is also a part of this Mcdonagh the guy who was suspended although aren't too much to say about this 'cause he was mostly at miami but there's an issue there if i'm arthur blank and i'm signing these checks i would say maybe we need someone that's more experienced. Maybe i made a mistake with boker giving giving a a young guy that had no experience in front office and player evaluation. This much rope And obviously he hit the first time but since then. It's been a real real rough time. Joseph martinez saying that this would be his last season. Really it shows you the player power. He has on that team and with the fan base. And that's kind of impressive to see. I think that that was there was i would say a fuhrer on Dc united separated trying to figure out what it would take to get him to to be traded to these united. And i think the answer would be more than anybody would want to trade. But that's neither here nor there because that's not happening now but yeah i mean that's that's a big whiff they said you know. I saw somewhere on twitter. Saying that in velez players have eating disorders like. They wouldn't eat or drink because they didn't want gain an ounce. Because hines it was so horrible about it about about like player. Wait on stuff. So that's a wolf's again like you said. I don't know if that's something i. It seems like it was known. Sometimes you know something happens. And then all of us on the stories come out of the woodwork. And people were like. Oh yeah no one asked me. But i knew. I knew this and this and that but either way atlanta is not the team. They were a couple years ago. They still have the fan base. They have who have rightfully demanded improvement. And i'm curious what they're gonna see here both in the near term and the next year. Yeah and it's just. I mean they're basically i think right now probably i don't know maybe maybe they are on divorce concert anymore. Since he went to He went to the netherlands to coach there. talk about like crazy story of falling up At still is crazy to me that you can get fired from minimalist team and then go and coach the The one of the more prestigious national teams in the world But i mean. I think i think with With with inland united. I i do think i think i. In my opinion i am. I am looking at possibly replacing the whole front office. Maybe they give them one more shot to find coach But i could see. I could see i will not be surprised if if maybe we see them we see some heads. Roll higher up Because this is embarrassing. It's also embarrassing because it almost sullies your reputation because they had a great reputation of bringing in you know great talent you had You know the glamour trae. They brought a lot of cloud and they're able to bring it a lotta successful players and then now it's like that one player you you basically shipped off to saudi arabia. The one that was supposed to be your big your real big pay day and then now you have this whole situation you have the boardwalk all of its kind of adding up for this team. I mean i think the right the ship you mean they got the money to do it. but it is. It is something that that's clearly a really embarrassing for for the team so Yeah we'll we'll see what they do it certainly. They certainly are not boring. I guess you could say so. Maybe that's what they have rushed there. Stop boring even in even when they're a mess they're they're not boring Let's shift gears a little bit. Let's talk a little about the washington spirit You had the pleasure of going out to segr- field to watch them play against the New york New york new jersey. Gotham fc is called. yeah it's a lot of a lotta words mutters unfortunate yeah but but anyway A crazy wild game There was a red card inside. Ten minutes A lot going on. Give us some of your Give some of your thoughts from from the field. Yeah i think it was. I think it was a a match. That was very I don't know if you could do particularly gonna go. Centerfield has its constraints. We've talked about it over nervous about not being able to water the pitch sort of not really understanding what kind of game you're gonna get The only experience far we have this season at say grow is the game against The gins against chicago they also nothing and chicago. Basically packed in put two sixes in front of the back four and made it impossible to play the kind of soccer. that rubric wants to play Gotham is a more possession oriented team Usually at a a conservative possession oriented team in there you know in their optimum set up that sort of the they're they're set up to play After getting a red card in the seventh minute everything just became complete. Chaos like there was no there. Were no systems. There was no strategy per se. I a be hard pressed to find it other than you know. Trying to burn up and down the wings trinity rodman once again still battling back spasms still finding a way to put defensive players under pressure and this time really getting an opportunity to You know finish a great goal. gr- once again any hindi's elvan Proving vlatko to be a bit of a dummy. I don't know yet. Maybe maybe the one the goldman. I'm wrong but Andy sullivan had six minutes. Seven minutes i guess at midfield and then eighty three at at centerback and was still assisting on the goal was making gut busting runs in the last five. Ten minutes After you know basically. I will tell you that her page nielsen were scrambling that entire game. Gotham had them under pressure. I don't have the stats in front of me. I don't even have post game stats. But i can tell you that page nielsen. Who at that point was not ninety minutes Ready to go at least judge by the hype from coach had to play ninety because centrebacks were they were running out and also you know. They had a red card in that position she put in a shift. She was unfortunately near every goal or almost every goal. That gotham scored. And you could say like if you look at it in slow you think maybe she could have done more but other than that other than the goals. She was literally tackle machine. She was throwing her body around. She was taking abuse She was drawing fouls she was shielding the ball. It was it was an impressive performance by her. I thought overall trying to other big pictures acid sanchez scores. A wonderful goal That probably will go on as her first free kick goal in an abuse l. and post game we asked her about it and she said that because she almost scored in the eighty seven. Three eighth minute In the previous game against a already field where she took seven shots They g confident and the dutch. Go for it. And she placed it. She placed perfectly That should have been enough. Unfortunately again when you're when you're down one player that long and you have town and a team that is interested in has the talent in the fire score I think they just ran out. I think they ran out of league's little bit an image purse Scores in the. What minute was it. Eighty seven six minute Just basically ran it down. The side took advantage of the place where they were not packing they. They had sort of moved their defensive players into more of a central shell protect the goal and sort of allowing the wings as opportunity for them to run up and down and they did that And they cross it in To mitch person and she finished she had a great game. Midge was a handful another player that this is the great thing about being the. Us national team is that you have you know an entire second best eleven that you could probably bring to the world cup. Maybe medal like we're not the world cup or the olympics. That's entirely possible. But overall you know i think you can't be mad at the spirit for having you know gone down and if you look at the you look at the red card There's a picture that's taken. It's outside the box. A patient is within a foot of if it was a dog. So that's arguable There was a you know a very confusion that was first given to page nielsen. And then after three minutes of sort of like thinking about it to give it to sam sam did not argue was back the foul but they were under it right. The whole game they were they were really under pressure. Entire game richie said. I'm not pulling my offense players off the field. I wanna win at halftime. I wanna win. Go out there and do it. Unfortunately ashleigh hatch has recurrence of horror of her concussion symptoms for the second or the third time this season turning rodman's not ninety minutes fit Your shorthand on the bench if you look at the bench that game. It was a kumi and then eleven players that were play that. We're not with demon. The season started. You got six national team replacement players you get a new a new player that just signed from the mexican national team who is a defender who came in and played. I think about ten fifteen minutes and then a lot of a lot of rookies. Like it's just it was a it was a real struggle When you have them the depth situation that you get in the olympics. It's you gotta you gotta hope that no one gets hurt and You gotta hope that those rookies in those in those in those new national team players replacing buyers can annaba and little job. I'm not concerned. I thought they played well considering. Yeah i think the fact that they nearly pulled out appoint when they went down a man. You know already tough enough job. I think as it is in fact of how they fought and how they came back obviously attorney great role. Great goal from trinity. All the good players played your players. You want to see score ashes. Sanchez tony rominger scoring goals And i think that the red card was very questionable. i think it was I think it was i. I don't know if it was i. I've watched it a couple of times. And i can see with. The referee was saying. But i think the fact of the matter was the fact that the referee didn't know which which defender to give the red card to is almost always going to be a I will be curious at this. Referee shows up again. And i'll be curious. Maybe if there's a research maybe if there's if the red card is rescinded by pro. I'm kind of curious if if if they'll step in and say note. That wasn't dog. So i love you. Were saying it should have been a penalty Which exit been had been a penalty. I don't know if it's still a red card. I don't know if it was the the play was. It was a grab on the shirt. I don't know that's a genuine attempt to play the ball. In which case it could still be a red card. There has to be a genuine attempt grabbing the shirt Certainly i i don't know if that qualifies. qualifies for that But you know it it. It is what it is i don't know. Vr saves it. I i don't know who knows who knows incredibly soft for for that early stage in the game. Obviously you don't worry about the stage in the game and you're not thinking about that but it was unfortunate because i all i could think throughout this game this game would have been a lot better. Lebanon eleven and this wasn't it wasn't clear obvious that it should have been the case There may have been an owner from certain end of yourself franchise who was clearly displeased with the call and let the referee and assistant referee. No it for much of the game. I won't say who. Or what but that. That is entirely possible. It was you know they're they're really trying. They're trying to overcome segue right. I think that there are. There are a lot better team when they're on grass when they're on a bigger pitch one of us a little bit wider when it's faster so they are fighting against a third party basically when they play games and they put. They put a great effort together for almost the entire ninety minutes. I really hope that they you know. I hope actually hatch does not have a confession. I hope if she does she's given a little bit more time off to figure out what she's going to do about that. It's very unfortunate. She you know she scores a brace and the previous week is the player of the week comes on the show having a great time and then this happens again. It's just it's very unfortunate and trying to think of any other players and alfred. He had another good game right back. I know that richie is a big fan of hers and sort of you know did she. Was she the one she the one who played the ball over to to stab in the i think i think she sort of plays kind of that ball. And and maybe is stabbed. Doesn't do a good job recovering it. But i'm pretty sure she at least plays a part in getting in in that in that situation over there ops. Go back and watch it. I that there were a number of hospitals just all through. I mean before the red card after the red card. I think that is you know you're playing with fire right when you're saying i'm gonna play the back. I'm gonna play the back with ten. I'm gonna i'm not. I'm not gonna play long on out of the either goalkeeper spot and they would pass it and gotham was not going to just let that happen they. They pressed the entire time. And there were a number of times during bailey. There was a series of time. The fortieth minute was a giveaway. That should have been a goal by during bailey in the thirtieth one by page nielsen. Thirty four and then bony scores in the thirty fifth like it was just they just sort of a bad run. I don't think they could. They couldn't withhold the pressure the entire time gothic a team. Gotham also up to this point. And it only conceded three goals all season so They almost doubled their amount of goals. Conceded I think jason anderson called it out on plex weather. He was saying that. Yes that is a statistic but it just seems like they have been blessed basically like the x. g and the goals actually conceded number was so different that there was just a you know a four seal their net so You know Red card for sam style out. That'll hold for the unless you get through sin and like you said so. Centreback is still a challenge Corina rodriquez potentially may steps may step. Then they may go tori tori. Who stewart houston. Being available was a problem. She was it with a shot in the previous game. And i don't know wasn't a concussion. It said basically upper body and she couldn't play those ribs or what. I think it would have made a big difference if she was available. Both from a sort of where you put the players after the red cards situation. Maybe allow andy to stay more forward and and move tori there But that's you know. That's that's the way it goes. Why these rogers so big so hopefully to get some bodies back pretty soon This is i. Don't i don't have who they're playing next. I think i have it up there. Playing racing louisville on the road okay. So that's that's important. That's that is They're playing away. They they lost to louisville to nothing last time they played him away. Not a not a great game and the goals that they conceded. Were very weird individual mistakes. You'd like to see them. This is a real. I think i think for them. If you look at the table besides being insane and i'd advise you to look at how insane it it's like you know it's very competitive in the playoffs. The top six. They're very very tight so no one is running away with this. The olympic break is were. I thought his team could put some distance amongst other teams because of the fact that they were at the time before injuries for you know very deep and also sort of a positions that they needed help they had they had cover. But they're not really accumulating all the points that they would maybe hope do so still so longtime started yet in southern. So there's some games to go but louisville should be should be a win. I know that ritchie would be looking for three points even on the road even with the injuries that i think that they. You know. if you've got you gotta ask your sanchez. You got trinity rodman. You get a chance which is crazy but it's true. Yeah and they have a chance in this game and any word. I mean so clearly now. There is running water. I think the idea that they can water the turf could help make that field a little better. Yeah they don't let why is there. Not why is there. Not you know how they had you said. Rfk they would have the the four wheeler with the big giant think of water in the will and the the world was sprays and just drive back and forth over the field to wet it down. Why do that they could do that. That's that's i think you can bring with you. But they don't do that either. So it's you know it's i. It's very eighth. I don't want to say it's a second class citizen situation over there at segregated. Feels that way when you have when you have. The basic needs being addressed in that way for the field that affects the game play. It's upsetting. i want them to play games. Daddy feel i. I like driving too loud in my car. Didn't like it. Because i was ripping around corners in the autobahn and i got off check. Engine light so my bad but They need to play. You know i hope. Next season is one hundred personality field. I don't know what the agreement is for twenty twenty two but man. I hope so. I think that's where they need to be for a bunch of different reasons. The hope is that the new w league team coming fills those dates in In in in loudon and in the washington spirit can move out a field or at least have more games at outfield I am and so you know it's it is it is what it is the situation I think dc deserves Certainly a little bit of the blame for not having things ready is taken an incredibly Even with the pandemic. I feel like everything we should. We should have a training facility. By now i feel like there are teams that stood up training facility quicker than what. Dc and there isn't any issue a d. c. building in the city it's loudon there's nothing but like grass and dirt and you just have to you know build i. I don't know. I don't know the details. I'm sure someone came on the show. No there's all these details in everything But i feel like there's a lot of things a lot of things going on with this team you know. Spirits don't play the. I think hillary arche fields. I'm fairly certain. And audi they train our zero waiting for the dc training facility. Done the dc training facility. It looks from the outside is done. it's all interior work now so there should be nothing stopping him. I think that the you know that it's bad when i'm talking to spirit players and i'm like hey you're supposed to get this summer this fall and they're all like yeah whatever whatever whatever you say man We'll see what actually happens but it. I mean it should be soon. Players live out there. Most of them live there I can't kim says you know dollar signs. Maybe so. I mean i when i look when i look at la when i was looking at segr- afield from from where the no press boxes through no fault of any what this ban jordan. If you're listening is is not a criticism of you. The fact that they did not build a press box anywhere in the facility is so strange to me when every last my high school. Football stadium has a press box. You just stick a trailer on top of the top deck of the last of the bleachers. And then you have a breast box. It's like crazy but it just is so when i think like they were talking about like. Oh we built segreta so you know. We're very capital committed. And i was like guys y- this could not have cost that much money. I couldn't afford to build it but it should never be an excuse for what you couldn't spend elsewise unless unless things i that are secretly expensive that i don't i don't expect but it is a very minor league stadium and i don't don't doubt i mean unlike unlike what goes on at at a over at audi field him how. It's pretty much what it what it is. What it is right now and it's not going to get much bigger. There is a lot of room for for expansion at that stadium. So i think they i. It was very clear there like let's get at least a little bit of this together. I think the pandemic delayed a lot of things that would happen with that stadium. You know. I do think the team has room there to grow and room and and you know it may be it is about the money I dunno it's it's it will i. This is something i think. The the team and their their capital and how much money they have I think maybe as as led them to rethink some things. So we'll i think we'll see what anything any money at cigarettes. Good money after bad. They're having a big problem drawing fans to loud united gains for very reasonable reasons. They don't win games. It's not really it's not. It's not soccer. That i think i think that they i'm not sure like i don't know if the loudon market was a thought there is a big untapped market out here. They're obviously big in youth. Soccer thought was maybe simil- you're gonna you're gonna fill the stands with with those those folks but even before the pandemic you didn't see big crowds there and any money you spend. They're always going to be turf. They're not going to change that over. So you can only make this so nice. So i would not spend any dining money more on it and just say spirit. You guys can train here. You're gonna play all your games field. Twenty twenty two we're gonna have. Us l. w league here for the three months of the season that lasts and loudon united. We'll continue basically as a dc united to reserve team. Where if any player does remotely well. We're going to steal that player and we are not going to spend any money on free agents and that's okay but like maybe maybe that says us l. championship is not you know in the long term plans as as a reserve comes up in twenty twenty two twenty three with the year for that twenty. I think it's next year. I think they're bringing the w league team is supposed to be next year. I think there is I think there is an interesting point. I feel like loudon. United was the The carrot to the you know leadership to say hey we want to build a training facility and will bring a sports team here will bring our one of our reserve teams down here and i think that was a way to sort bring in To sort of bring in those fans. And i think you know it's still far enough in the area You know. I don't doubt that this if this team suddenly puts it together and they start playing soccer maybe more people decide they want to come out. But i think the the the loudini loudon loudini united being narrow naming the team loudon united not dc. United too. I think it was all part of the idea that hey we know. We're going to put a team out here. We're gonna. It's gonna be loudon. And and i think that was part of the draw and then also then you know. Hey we're gonna the spirit got old. Glory rugby out there So you know. I it is it is You know again. As i said before it is what it is right now and i think loud if johnny boulevard goes in here and start sliding up for dc united than loudon. United was absolutely worth it. Let me just say that Because that's his goal goal is to provide players for dc. We feel like greener website for reviews of louden united. I think john. And i have sort of realized that we are stretched a little bit too thin as far as trying to cover all these things. Thank you for. thank you for our guest. Writers who are. I think there are certainly market at are very interested in how doing it small but it is exists so we wanna make sure that we're covering that We didn't have. We actually talked about. What brennan hines like injury is yet. We didn't talk but we just had this sort of that. Says that he's missing. Yeah maybe we didn't talk a little bit about that. We we can get into that yes. It's brief he has this. He has a fractured hip socket. the wall the wall of his pelvis. I guess in his left hip is Is fractured no surgery. But the expectation by steve gough and the team that you'll be gone more than this. The six games Several months most likely So birnbaum is is is a question mark and centreback with his new ankle. Injury is out for the extended period. So you have now You have frippery. Aunt who had not played much as sort of after the beginning of the season you have tonio following a heart in the heart. And that's what you got and there isn't really if you if you wanna look at up possession week on land loudon. You don't wanna bring any of those over here you do not. You don't bet is not enough. Maybe maybe two shields maybe out of necessity man. I don't think so. Compagno also got dumped from london to go do something. That's not soccer And i might just being mean like literally. That's what the release says. He's doing non soccer opportunities. So yeah that is. Not the midfield is the place you'd wanna steal some players from loudon. United defense is not so Imagining maybe in the window you also i mean you have just some work may be slide in there man. That does not feel good about that and not feeling good about that. Maybe i i guess the question of like. How do you prioritize your limited amount of money and spending in a window like do you address your overall long-term neither do you worry about. Sort of fixing the holes in the boat made by Sort of the injuries maybe burn bounces back in two weeks or a week. And we're gonna go and gary spent. I'm not feeling that. The mafia confident yeah woke up. Russell can also down. I see obviously donovan pines. We're talking. we're still a good Good at least a good three three or four weeks before donovan pines and polar returning assuming The us doesn't get bounced from the from the from the quarterfinal round of the gold cup. They got another victory. Pines apparently looked a little bit shakey. from from reports other reports were good and then he he he started to look a little bit shakey so We'll see i think at that point. I'm just like all right back. He's come back. Kim inches felipe and canal like he's announced injured. I'm thinking about fleet at center. Back and Maybe maybe maybe gotta do right. I think i think he is a lot of people. Criticizing his speed right now. Sort of comeback mindy like. That's that's not coming back quite the way it was and it's causing some problems for him so maybe centreback helps you hide a little bit of those deficiencies. He certainly has the tenacity for. He hasn't over the size necessarily for but neither does andy. he's making he's making. Were obviously centre-back with andy but quote unquote. But we'll see we gotta we gotta figure out how to ways to to the boat. We're talking about injuries again. Which i know. Aaron loves can't wait to ask him about that at a press conference But we're at at at the very least i. I don't think any of these injuries. These most most of all of them can't really tied to him. You have a do break in his. You know his hip bone is not anything. -joyed really it really point to as as a As caused by anything. You're doing training. Um you know obviously You know polio will pick it up a knock not us over there at He's over there in the us team. Obviously pres- picking up an injury. Apparently with the us men's national team training with them So i think you gotta look at some of those and say okay. Well you know. It's not this this is not early. Season dc ninety bad. I don't think we're gonna see three or four players in the roster On the on the bench. I think we're gonna see We're going to see the full complement if not near the full complement so not as bad but still an issue. And i think the team is going to have to figure out address I think you know canals going down most time and slides right in I think with breads going down Arena has a look good but he's still an option and he still is a pretty talented player and then he got some flora's hopefully hopefully closer to coming back I hope this like holding him back has just been a. He's not quite there yet. We need to get him to one hundred percent And you know you still got options with roberta and You know maybe kumar's back by by wednesday's bertha injuries. We'll see if he's available. This is not this. This is not the two thousand situation with dc where players were going down. And you're like oh man. There's just no one who who you gonna throw in there At that point. So i think i think this is definitely. This is definitely different team with a little bit with a little bit more depth. And we'll see what happens though. Transfer window so. This is the first time it's being really tested. I think well that's not true. The season was also that this is not quite as bad as that. I think you would say that. Basically what you're saying. I think i think this is a test because expectations are a little bit higher earlier in the air. We were like we what his team's going to be like. I mean we don't know anything about the seems going to do. And then i think and then i think with with with with With dc right now. There's expectations a little bit raised. You're you're sitting in the playoff hunt. You know i was. I know at the time coming out of that. Toronto game thinking we can push maybe for like a home playoff game if things go well right. Now i'm like i think will be either between fifth at best at seven at seventy hundred if we're talking playoffs Maybe just missing out on that. I think i think my my my hopes and expectations of this year of kind of dwindled. A little bit Especially with the injuries with the games. Coming up But i think this is a critical week to for this team so critical week. All around. yeah. Kim brings up yahoo. Maybe being opportunity for him to to to play their young that have an opportunity here to to really to do well also hasley to wildly here like we lost. Obviously after a game that we would like to win. But i don't think we played necessarily poorly. The good thing is like it's the the style that they're playing is right. It's good we like it. Results aren't always there and sometimes maybe and they're not talking about this multiple times. They could be a bit more sophisticated in what they're you know. They're on onfield game management in certain situations. That's you know that's fine. I were that that says to me. There's talent on the field there in every game If they go if they go to games without a point and these two weeks. Like maybe i think then you could be a little bit more little dour but i think overall we're not we're not to down after this game. We're just we're just down that they beat the crap out of the players so much that we're gonna have to the druce countries might be starting after you know after a long lay-off right away. I mean i come. I come back to this i come back to this and i say or non had a say in maybe one or two players. If that and brennan hines ike was one of them and he's been phenomenal. Brennan said is has been one of the birth had been solid roberta's been the other one He's been solid. i think he's been better than expected. So i think it's worth it's worth you know it's worth to look at that and say you know this is the start of something. This is not the conclusion if we were year two or three in this. Maybe we'd be a little bit more worried about what's going on but this is year one and already you can see that are non has gotten more out of this team than a lot of people thought He's gotten people to buy in. And then that's important i. It's building a culture. I think he has. He has done that He is starting to do that. In a lotta ways to sort of build that culture so hopefully hopefully that continues Lotta a lotta lotta white ways to go and again you know when we have some options. We'll see what happens. Are you gonna do it for the show. we're going to have a lot of previews game reviews coming up for you may have some other more surprises for you. We're gonna we're gonna keep the content coming thick and heavy so definitely definitely check that out. We're probably going to drop them as it comes out You know we're not gonna maybe we'll drop it for the for the early no matter what make sure that yeah if you like it in the stuff right away That's really that's what we try to figure out what kim what can make it worth your while other than you. Just what the show which we appreciate particularly on the backs of a four episode week. We very much appreciate your your sport. 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I will not be running out cigarette audi field every weekend so i'm brings out about that and i think it might be a fun opportunity for us to all watch the game together and have an opportunity to you. Know like make a thing like what we would do in person. So if you're not if you're listening to this episode on tuesday make sure that you're following us on twitch twitch that tv slash rfk refugees yet and Anywhere you wanna follow. Obviously listen to the show by the way. I don't know if the patriots subscriber. I do want to drop you get your own private. Rss feeds you. Get when the show's come out as soon as basically as soon as i'm gonna adding they go right up on the on onto that onto that Onto that private. Rss feed so go to go to the patron dot com. They've got some some directions on how to get that filled out so definitely check that out. All right folks gonna do it for us. We will catch. You guys All the time. There's this all the time hanging out hanging out fumbles.

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The Case of the Mysterious Blond Hair with Devon McTavish

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The Case of the Mysterious Blond Hair with Devon McTavish

"Into rfk refugees podcast. This is the second of the week Out of three because we don't understand supply and demand and we just put out way more than anyone looking for. but ted meyer continues to be on vacation. I continued to be putting out content. And i have with my debit mctavish devon. Thank you for joining us john. It's my pleasure. Thanks for joining our thanks for joining. Thanks for thanks for having me have me on tonight. What day is it. Where are we what's going on. It doesn't matter. Does it really does run together. And if it's not a game that i just don't have any focus on my life at all so i feel that we're at i feel bad so most important. We had to get this out of the way the people wanna know. When was the last time that you dyed your hair blond. And don't say it wasn't this year. You got bored during lockdown. What was what happened with that. So it's ever had on and took it off and it's you know a lot of salt but there's a lot of pepper in there to mostly solid at this age. But honestly i've never i some sun and like in high school or college that was it and Never had the audacity or the courage. I say to to bleach. My hair like i mean. I grew up in the time. Like i'm in like eighth grade ninth grade. When i may as you know doing his bleach blond hair and running. Mls and i'm like. That's what i always wanted to be that i just could never pull off bleach blond hair and so Yet at a couple of what was it last week the phillies game. So yeah i. I can't remember if you started you start. Yeah and so i. I don't know what was going on there. Actually we have the set guy was. The delay was the whether it was the weather delay. We have your you just got more than started just like though and stuff in my hair. Yeah yeah that was really i understand. Yeah i get. I actually recall a time. I think we're very. We're pretty similar in age. And i remember around eighth grade. It became very cool to Highlight your hair like to run your to dye your hair like pull it through Cap in dye that blonde prostitutes tips. Yeah i did that. I was doing that in middle school. Football was a it was very. It was a great time. I have pictures. I remember fondly of that. I've never. I don't know if it worked out but i certainly tried it. You gotta have some pictures of that. I'm sure somewhere. I'm sure that's right. That's a patriotic high level to your to get those pictures to get on the internet. So i think so Let's let's walk. You walk through a broadcast for you at home so like an a home game starts normal time. Seven o'clock What today like for you. Wendy wendy role in what's prep like kind of stuff. Yeah good question so a lot of kids activities because my wife is going to be by yourself for about a third of the day and having to bedtime by yourself with two kids both under the age you got to build that equity up early dan. You're you're super dad. Exactly i wouldn't say super dab build that equity up that's a good way to put it Tire the kids out and do a grocery run if needs to that sort of thing but you know honestly throughout the day because you can never do enough preparation like a. I mean obviously even leading up until the time we get the You know the team sheet you. You don't fully know who's going to be eleven years on the bench If players are going to be fit or not and so things are constantly changing and so even leading into going live for our pre game show. I mean we're still doing research on what's happening with whatever team we're playing who exactly we're trying to get confirmation from dc united's locker room and so you know throughout the day. I'm continent communication usually with dave. Obviously everyone knows dave johnson. He's got contacts out the league so he's always gonna you know using his His web to get the latest details on whoever dc night planning obviously Jeff strauss our director producer He's always kind like lineup elements for us as well and. Hey maybe we should try this. So it's a lot of while. I'm trying to keep the kids entertained during the day. It's also a lot of You know responding to emails doesn't look at this video. What do you think we need to throw that in there Think about this concept And maybe this north narrative. That sounds like we're the ones who developed narrative but What do you think of this. Your story lines or insurance so you know and then i arrived to we. Do we do all games right at outfield. So home and away. We do their booth turns into a little studio for away matches but you know we roughly get their abou. I would say two and a half to three hours before game depending on. Maybe what life is like at home at the time dave. I think it's like nine thirty in the morning if it's an atm kickoff. I'm not exaggerating that dude. He's he's flipping hamburgers out in the park. You're doing it. And i joked i think one time and how many years i've been doing this five or six. He's got beaten stadium ones. And i'm confident. It was because it wizards a game so that was the only time you take it a win. That's one yeah and you know what but You know he's he's always prepared and Obviously pleasure to work with two so And then you know. We do a production meeting about two hours before just kind of review what. We're talking about If you know provide updates if we get any updates from either side and You know go time then from there. It's just kind of like finalizing notes on the teams trying to remember stats. Obviously we have sheets of papers in front of us. Remember every step but like said. It's just really until the the whistle actually until the pre-game is just really trying to make sure up to speed with the latest updates and the latest news and not just for our game but also kind of what's going on as well. Is there like a post broadcast breakdown meeting or do you guys cover that. The next day like to cover went through in the show that you want to change next time that you like in particular. Yeah that's a good question so we do Depending on sunday night. At eight o'clock. Especially when dave johns waking up at two thirty the next day you talk on monday on that one right Sometimes tuesday give us the next twenty four hours to You know wrap our thoughts around but yeah we we do it a little debris from then we talk about the week Coming up and so you know we also work. Obviously claudia gone is on the broadcast as well and there's always things that they're working on that we may not fully know about. They may not even be able to discuss until actually it's time to announce it so You know we try to. If they're able to talk to us about the let us know. Hey this is some feature. We'd like to put in or this is the player that we're going to talk about. We want to talk about. Here's why and so Yeah so typically. It happens about twenty four hours after the match. But you know if there's like a nice friendly like five or six o'clock game then we'll we'll head down to the truck and just kind of there as well which anyway if you ever get a chance to go into production like i mean the amount of buttons in there in the united number of things that you could screw up. It's i don't know how anything gets accomplished or anything goes out but obviously everyone in there does a fantastic job and I'd actually like to sit in there one day just to kind of see how. How how it all plays out because i think it's rather chaotic but also know that everyone knows what they're doing. So i remember walking by those trucks on the way to lot eight at our after games and the the compulsion wanna pull on some of those cables because like nine thousand patch cables connected to your like what happened. Exactly something bad would happen but what would happen exactly. I was always too cowardly to and to to good benefit. I don't wanna cut off the post game show. I don't think the unplug though. I think there's a little bit more to it than just walking by and folded out like a little light switch so our lives so No i know particularly in la into lot. Eight of fans games. If it were easy to do they would have done it. If it anytime so good point there. I think most fans don't know that it was extremely common for broadcasters to call remotely even before cova dow obviously it's a no-brainer but i think that's sometimes surprise to fans as their as they realized sort of a shortcoming that occurs. Because you're not right. Yeah we do. We have yard okay off. We have more when our you know on the broadcast now. And he helps with the pre game show and then he does the broadcast until exodus. And so we kinda talked before the season and obviously at this point no one's traveling production crew traveled. There may be going to start doing it from rumors and i'm hearing Just some teams are going to start doing it here. Shortly from what i'm gathering but yeah had indicated he's like we've spent broadcasts. I've never travelled like you know it's weird. Always just booth just watching a game for wherever it may be taking place so it's a different experience and obviously i think viewers at home realized that as well but Nothing beats being in the stadium. Feeling the vives the energy and obviously being able to see more than what the home team director wants to show us so right if it makes a little more challenging but at the same time given our current environment. It's obviously no writer. I i'm trying to recall. Feel like a couple of games. You guys did. Maybe when we were under two different tv channels ago so when we were on beat that you guys you did a couple a couple road games. I think maybe toronto. Yeah we did Let's see. I think i started in two thousand sixteen so second half we. We traveled until Say we traveled twenty sixteen seventeen eighteen. Wow yeah yeah and then I don't think we did with slow so any part of you missed the travel or i'm obviously right now. I think we kind of travel. Because we've all been sort of homebound for a year and a half but like and you have two young kids. So maybe maybe maybe it's it's happening at the right time in your life your is. It's good to sleep in your bed every night and be able to help out with. But it's a little bit right. Yeah so from the initial question. I missed travel. I do because. I mean obviously now we have. We're not planning. But you have a steven austin. You have a new stadium in columbus which obviously the teen are they going to do. We have one at the end of the season. We do Yeah coming up here. Sorry yeah like in next wednesday And then cincinnati. I would love to see that savings well and just feeling again. After the way the past eighteen months have been like going out to a new city and seeing the stadium and feeling the energy there and obviously the broadcasts. is just different because you're able to view more than again what the Home team is just kind of putting putting out there. So i do miss that aspect from a personal standpoint driving into outfield but stakes at ten minutes driving home right that makes life a lot easier. So beat it yeah. I'm you know if if they wanna start traveling again. It's going to be the kids something nicer. My wife but right. Don't think it's going to happen anytime soon. The yeah yeah. I think that's my one question. That i have is so i i do. I cover spirit in saudi field. I don't cover an in the press box. But i don't know if i need binoculars i'm not sure what's wrong with my eyes. I know i can generally tell where the home team is. Because i'm much more familiar with them. But when it's the away team. If i've not done an extensive study and it's a team that has a formation where they sort of art they're flowing. They're moving around pretty well from the press box. I'm asking jason anderson every oil. Who was that. I can't see. I am apparently old and i imagine on the broadcast all this. My eyes are. i'm not sure. Exactly what the deal is there. But how when you're when you're doing the away games on a monitor. Yeah i how big is the monitor. How close are you to the monitor. And are you just really really good is i. Don't know what's just imagine your Imagine your tv in your in your in your house. Like i mean it's just that's just basically watching it off right and so I mean it's a it's a big. Tv don't get me wrong but we're not watching a movie screen so that'd be honestly you know for home games just because in like anyone who really covers them. Unless you know you're familiar with people's faces. And i i honestly couldn't tell us players numbers just off their faces and the kind of movement you're able to understand who is who and when you're in outy field watching game field. I put numbers on my team sheets when they're pulling we're covering away game simply because it is. I mean you're having a you know it's you're not you're not right there in action you're obviously You know a little bit further away. And so i often times too. I don't know if anyone's ever picked up on this often for teams say arial Or whoever it is gets gets by a defender. Let's say you know. Cincinnati on the weekend. I'll often to say instead of calling it. Offender's name often say gets since then defender because while it's obviously okay to mistaken. Who may have been. You're just not in the moment on hundred percent comfortable so you because it'd be vague than wrong. I guess so. Yeah that's my. I'm sure there are people who disagree with me but it's it's one of those things. It is hard and so. I do use numbers because sometimes easier to the number that it is actually see people's faces so this question may have been mostly useful for me. I think it's interesting too but for me. I'm now going to be able to do better at my job by the writing the numbers strategy that i can more quickly identify how soon after you tired was broadcast. Something you consider doing was it. Obviously your retire you. Have you go through entry. You think about what's next you go. You go to the professional world do different things how soon after we like all right. This is something as a way to get back in the game. Any you're doing you're doing some analysts do for like Like i was yeah. It was a match evaluator basically snitch. Yeah that's what the match evaluator is so no. It's it's a good role that i'll get to that but yet so i actually approached Dc united just. After right. after. I had stopped playing so my last season which i didn't play a game. I was out injured for majority of it. And then when i got healthy then hurt again. So that was thousand eleven so i i was done by two thousand twelve so i approached them and You know indicated like if there's ever any opportunity if you guys need to fill in. I would love to just try it out. And you know nothing came for which and fruition with that and it was totally fine and then i just always just the game and i was trying to figure out what the heck do you like. Part of you wants to get away from it because you've been doing this your entire life and the other part of us like well. There's a reason that i was in this entire life. Because i absolutely love it. And so I ended up going to grad school up in philadelphia. When i was up there. I kinda got hooked up with Mls bob foods from the players association out and said hey we're looking for these match evaluators and the role of that is literally. Just you sit. In between the benches you listen to what the coaches are yelling at the fourth officials about. You're giving your opinion on what the call should be. You know if it's a this was before vr. So if it's the you know maybe someone gives a a soft yellowcard card soft yellow cards like you've been on that so you just hold like breakdown. Twenty four hours after the game about. Here's what's good. Here's what the coach said in that moment. fights break out. You kind of like look out and did you. What they said was it. Like dot dot dot de. Well this is also a ben. Was the coach. So deadly approaching the fourth official. And i don't think you would Obviously officials too so I did some games philly but then also came back to dc and was doing some game. Dc so yeah. You know. Full transcripts have to type out every single word that you heard so That kind of kept me in the game and then i was approached by dc. I guess before the two thousand sixteen season says is something that i'd be interested in at that point i had done A podcast with A couple a couple of people and like twenty thirteen twenty fourteen just kind of covering dc. At and honestly. I forget the name of chris wimmer was the manual organize. It and i'm embarrassed chris. If you're listening that i can remember the name of the podcast. But i think it was on your on your weekday. Some four four dc fans or for the for the fan. I'll edit this. i'll just. I'll just i so you know there's always interested in always contain a follow dc. And then i was approached by that club in two thousand sixteen and they're moving to news channel eight and so I had to write a big check out the dave johnson to allow me to do it but It went through. And you know you said you can come aboard. So i've had a blast with it. You know i i love doing. Obviously i love the club watching it. And i'll be able to play for them and so just kind of still being involved in even on a just a couple of hours during On the weekend is enough for me to wet my appetite and continue. Just keep my toe in. What is just a big passion mind. That's molest akron general. The fans love when the club can keep its former players in the loop. I think that's i think it's great for the players. Obviously it's a way to continue sort of like you said sort of kinship to and there was a big part of your life and also keeps. It's it's just overall good. Yes spots many players spots. Yeah well it's hard to do. And it's it's i mean. Yeah i'm from the area right. So like i grew up an hour and a half away and my i have family here and so you know. I've thought about relocating and it just never really come for. Because this is basically my home. But people come from all over the world to play for dc united and so it's hard to kind of keep that alumni group together right and so I don't think you know it's it's really a a slight on the club. It's it's something that's just really hard to do. And so those clubs are able to do it as this. It's always very impressive. Are there any guys that you watched both before when you start in two thousand sixteen incentives who you're like this is not necessarily emulating this guy from a color perspective. But i like the way he does he or she does what they do. And sort of you know who stands out for you. Yeah so i miss kyle martino so i you know he actually had a funny start. I don't know if you know his story. But he was basically working in finance in new york and i think he got called into like. Espn game that was taking place in new york that needed to fill in and he did one game in. I'm telling his story in so fact check me on this. But for standing he You know got got called in just for one game in espn and it was like gosh. I love this liquid finance. So i was like. How do i do this full-time and so i love his approach and backed back when he was doing with. Nbc before he moved over to the premier league he was sitting in between the venture so he was field level. And when you think about that sort of analysis that he's providing from a field level standpoint. I remember that it just blew my mind. And so i remember thinking if he's able to see this you know deliver. I can't imagine what he would be doing feelings up in the booth next. Arlo white but i just love how descriptive he was You know i i. I'm a big fan of obviously talking tactics and breaking breaking teams down in terms of analysis. But i also think it can be overdone and so rather than just kind of commentating on the game and providing if you will color to the game Sometimes i think it can be overstated. The breakdown of analysis and kind of overtalked. If you will so. I always thought he does very head a very good balance of that and i wish i don't know exactly what he's doing. I mean i'm not friends with them or anything. I just i would love to see him. Get back home somehow involved in. Mls between the benches thing is great as a. Maybe an nhl steel wire did that. But it's yeah. I think you had mentioned that to in this podcast house. Listening to where they nbc. Which had been focused on. You know they were doing all this work with. Nhl that's where they're putting the color was in between right there in between the two teams so And then honestly i i like to hold onto. I think he does a tremendous job For fox and you know I just kind of like his delivery and his approach to it and john strong good relationship. So those are two guys. Obviously i can't really hear kyle anymore But i do like listening to stu and you know i try to. I don't wanna emulate because everyone has their own style. But i just pick up some little Tricks from him. Let's talk about what is probably the most viral moment you guys have had this year which is part owner mark ingram. The book in seemed like everybody was having a really fun time with that. How much so this is. This is my interpretation of your days. They said let's have mark on for a few minutes and they're like all right. Yeah cool. he'll come on for a few minutes and then he has a great time. And dave and you probably have a shortlist of questions that you have ready for him and then you run through all those and then he's having such a great time saying crazy stuff and get really into it and the and the truck is like we're we're gonna go forty five we're just gonna we're just gonna run the whole time. Did that my right or am i wrong. Trucks like gold than checks like cold. Just if he wants to stay then let them stay. Yeah no it's exactly right. I mean. I think he had come on. We're maybe like a because he came on right before the second half whistle forever correctly and Yeah you know five minutes max right like yeah every you know. Dave got three questions. I've got two questions will walk soon. Have a great day. Go back to your sweet. I mean he's just his energy to dave talk by this energy comfort level is just infectious and so it was. It just turned into like three du's jilin in the booth watching a soccer game and he's just you mentioned just gold chocolates like i remember dave. You know you haven't yet as putting talk back but minute take mutsu so no one can hear you and you go directly to the truck. Remember dave going. What do you think we needed to keep them here. Or what do you think jeff strauss. Our producer director was just like you want to stay. Let them stay locked the door. I think mark was surprised by you. Know i think it kind of like i think it got like the eightieth mid mini realized. Like oh my goodness. I'm still here like the second half and So i remember after the game he was like you kinda put his arms up but he's got a big smile on his face. I thought you're just gonna ask me a couple of questions. I was gonna head out dave apologize like i'm so sorry but just uses great because now i loved it. It was fantastic so I think You know we gave him a key to the booth and everyone wants to have them back as soon as possible on things are going on for him right now. A little busy with slightly visiting camp but No he was fantastic. He was fantastic. I was watching that to thinking of the people that were in his in his Booth in in sweet like where thought he was. just right. what are we supposed to do. Yeah so Let's get to the team a little bit. So what's it like as a broadcaster to watch team. That is so full throttle and chaotic in in a positive way. Most of the game. Under under lozada. I think probably slightly easier to find things to to common on them like a zero zero shirtless game. Where we've had or just like sort of a sort of a stalemate or a physical game that's not really going to produce a lot of opportunities. There are lots of opportunities. Maybe not as many goals as the coach would like but there are certainly opportunities flying all over the place. Got to be something more enjoyable to try to add. Color to It's it there's mark ingram had has an infectious personality and smile lights up a room i think lozada has an infectious style rating approached this game. And you can't help. But just be energized watching them. I mean It's an exhausting style to play. These players are It's it's been a big transition little different than you know the the olsen approach but It's fun and so in you ask about you know watching them. It's how you watch them at home or how you wash them outfield. Feel that. I'm watching them the same way right. And so i have to have a bit more of a neutral lens to it and have you know look at tactics. A little bit bore little less on the ball a little bit more about what's going on with it but You can kind of you love to see the plays developing early on in the season. They simply weren't like it was just running pressing and now we're hitting which is going to be a really busy stretch here. You know where the end of july. They've got the ability to press teams. They have the ability to hit teams on the break. They have the ability to be an amid block if they want to they have the ability to have six seven eight passes and create a chance. Now they're not always sit in the back of the net. I know obviously lozada talks about needing to finish. Everyone knows any finish more. But the chances are creating from the a play Through counter-attacks like it's just they can hit a number of ways and that's that's so exciting Just as a fan to be able to see that and You know adding colored to that. Sometimes i just try not to get in the way of what's being viewed so You know i'll try to provide some sort of break down a little bit. If i see something happened three passes ago. Or if i see a you know someone out of position i try to call that out but you know for the most part what i just find engagement as exciting as you never know. What sort of appropes are gonna take. Are they gonna realize situation that you on the the high press like drilling vessel did on the weekend winning that ball and then starting at across oh kamara. They're going to be an embiid block. And then against in your city or are they gonna go direct like they did from moses nyman door bertha so it definitely keeps you on your toes. That's certainly not predictable. And i can imagine it's Getting frustrating tough for teams kind of plan to play a lozada ball because while he'd says its uptempo it's high energy and its high press. That's true but they've also got a bunch of different folds students. Well now. they're beating more dangerous than the final third Just creating opportunities to the run of play. I think they still need to work on low blocks right like we saw orlando come in south philly. Come in they have better ideas in terms of breaking down these blocks But those are going to continue to cultivate and time and hopefully when you know full roster as healthy as well and we'll of has everyone to pick and find know his best eleven that can probably help in terms of breaking down those little blocks to but yeah it's it's it's an. It's an interesting team. I think there's a a ton of upside to the team. You know you're looking at the table and there's there's opportunity out there. I mean lassad always talks about. I don't think we've been outplayed by any team. I can't i mean john lewis. You know a game i. I can't think of one now really Even the san jose game which is the lopsided score. I mean it was. It was weird individual mistakes. If i'm remembering now seems like forever ago but there were some weird individual defensive mistakes sending fred made of like fell over tracking back on at cal. Cal was the mistake. Yeah he's a. He's a human mistake machine that time. Allow it letting him play. Was those mistake. Yeah so no. That's a good shot. Yes san jose. I blocked that one out too but other than that. I mean you know that was. That was a second game of the year and their second or third game of the year and they still haven't really figured out transition at times i think they still struggle and they had an. I don't think they even had a full complement of players on the bench. I think they were. They had five guys Could bring with them. So i don't hold that against for honestly that we're re re entering based on the walking wounded situation on the rebels game. Were we're sort of their jeff. Giovanni boulevard may be looking at minutes just because just because they're so banged up Forward but i think you made a good point about the rebels game. Is that the way they set out right if you looked at that lineup. Some of it's dictated by injuries but some of it was also. I think tackle some of that was having druce coverage in that eight role in sort of like in between those two head. I don't think i've done that before i'm not. I've not seen that sort of particularly at home against a you know a rival doesn't matter but the way that the rebel set out and they take the game went according to plan. I think that what they wanted to do. Based on the way they applying as far as what's let's grab a goal and then less strangle this game. They're gonna play physical they're they don't they don't have the strength to match up to really put us under all bunch of pressure. They just ended the game. They dale out. No offense they were just just nullifying so i thought that was pretty great to have that in the bag right. It's great to have that swashbuckling. Great and it depends on when you gotta use it. But it's good to have like we're gonna we're gonna tactically deploy to steal the ball and put the ball in the net. Otherwise we're just gonna let you not do anything. Yeah yeah and you know. I think lozada's i'll it. It's a bit of an equaliser right. Like i mean. Obviously he wants a full roster and be able to pick his best eleven but a lot of it has to do with effort and running and positioning and those are all things you can teach and so even though i mean i don't want to think that new york red bulls they have their own style and i think not the new york rebels pass where they have terry on re and this high quality players they have quality players but like you face a team like new york city. Who's got fantastic quality in front for you've got You know team like well miami. I don't know they've they should have. But i'm going to indicate what i'm trying to get the point across. It is an equaliser. Just the the the style of play it kind of can limit the ability for teams with those dangerous and expensive from three or four players It has to be able to take them out of the game. And so you know when you're missing your five million dollar man in in floor as you have paul oriole out donovan pines. Who's obviously with the national team as well These are some important pieces. That are missing from the team. And he's still able to go out there because of the style because of the coaching involved because of the tactics out there and get a result with You know basically not a full squad from a former players perspective. What was your reaction when you heard about the big changes in fitness expectations about putting everyone's bmi on the wall and a meeting prescribing. More of the field time like that was all the all the stories were like. Made it. sound like anna's like all right. You will eat bananas from five to six and you will know nobody games. Were throwing those out and you're going to seven thirty every night. That's what's going to happen as a former player. Obviously ben olsen known more as a player coach. Mary much like you. Just get here and you work hard me in practice and you try you you you you fight for ninety minutes. I'm really care what you do. Maybe maybe they maybe did. But it's very much was like. I was a player i get it. I don't wanna. I don't wanna be miserable. Yeah what what was your reaction to sort of at that. Big change. Because i think it was pronounced in early earliest covered as if it were dramatic pronounced. I mean You know as a former player. Everyone like we. We all did body. Max body mass index when we came in on the first day right so like it wasn't a secret and it was pretty visible. Who did some work in the off season and who didn't do some work in the off season now line ended up with like a chart and i don't know all i mean. Obviously reports said that he did that and confirmation on that. I don't think we ever did anything like that but at the same time like. That's fine with me now. Changing all the off-field you know from a culture standpoint. I think lozada's bringing Just bringing dc night into a new age right like this is. This is the stuff that you know. He was experiencing. This is the expectation says players over. Belgium had That he had set forth for them. And so it worked over there. I'm going to bring this stateside and it's going to work for you now. The hard part is making those adjustments. You have to buy into it right. If you're a player you have to say okay. I'm willing to do this. Because i believe what he is selling me. I believe that he is going to get us to where we need to be as a team but you need to start getting results. Pretty quickly with that too. And he's been able to you know obviously they're not sitting top of the table but he's been able to get the full buy in from the teams and for and the players and obviously the results have started to come as well and so when those results come and get seven one. Everything's fine right. Don't care whatever we love running fantastic and also players. I played for peter novak so like i mean fitness levels were we. We had pretty intense crazy fitness levels to that was really my only skill professionals. When i play producing was the ability to see test master. I thought about coming out of retirement. Me like lozada. Leumi try out Yeah beep test master. that was. That was my moniker. So i can't connect to five yard pass but i can run coach. He i think he. I think he might have a spot for you. I think that's that's certainly a compelling narrative for him at this moment healthier labeled you're able to make it. That's that's a job one right now. Who else who's been the most pleasant surprise for you on the field this season. And why is it andy nar. Yeah yeah so. It's it is not andy and he's awesome man no no of course. It's i mean old was i. I got to play with them in two thousand ten and just a story is incredible right. I mean how you came to the united states and then he gets picked out to join the united academy and then like a month later. He's he's the best player in dc nordstrom. Ben drew's number fourteen. Adam yes seriously right. Yeah because right when ben right so No and and you just you just want him to do well in new like when he came back into the league in l. a. I was excited about it but you knew it was kind of just a place for him to kind of you know reset Get healthy i was. I know he got some games. Like seven or eight games but I i didn't really expect him. When i saw that too to the ending the higher that you know he he had been in the past and so when he was a trialists. Right where everyone's following like golf's twitter whoever else's twitter just indicating like how. How is andy doing zandi. Doing i knew as soon as he made the team. Like he's gonna be legit because this is he's just got i feel like he's got the fire and i feel like clubs near and dear to his heart And if you can combine that passion you combine that fire. He's got the quality got the skill he can stay healthy. Then you knew it was going to do good things now. I didn't foresee is just being playmaker from right centreback. I thought no one did. Only lozada could envision this right and it came to and so At times i always thought he could be You know if they needed employment right back or maybe even like a right wing back. But he's been he's been so good back there It's just a it's fantastic to see you. Just knock on wood. Hopefully he continues to continue to stay healthy and People letting him do his thing but use a highlight reel every time he gets about now. I mean it's just it's it's he is he is for sure gonna set the record for most completed dribbles centreback. It's not gonna close. If they keep such a stat will be at the top of it. I can't imagine him not being there. Well i also envisioned him as kind of like the perfect Sitting under the forward right so like reo on the left and then bihar the right to and he was healthy and so but again. I never i never imagined him. Being right centreback i also when i was playing with him and he's had quite a few experiences since i last played with him in two thousand ten jamie he's picked up a little bit of experience but He's a good defender. Right like one on one i mean. He's got the athletic ability but he reads the game really well too and that was always obviously he was only eighteen years old but that was a part of his game and i never really thought was to elite. But he's he's what do i knew he sort of said in one of the press availabilities that That the role that he's playing is sort of partially to Keep him from hurting himself. Like the he was originally were thinking he'd he'd run less and we'd be able to and then it's like. Oh no he's actually just as active. He's doing. He's playing as though he he's doing what he would've done on the right wing where he deployed there. But yes in a defensive position so it's just it's it's just who he is though right right like he just sees the space. He's got the confidence with bald feet. And he'll break lines and and then he'll break another line and then hope you know provide service or slip a whatever so Most most centrebacks limited to two touches by. That's right on andy's name it's what he's he's a bit unpredictable in that regard but offensively. That's that's so important to dc united now and again defensively. He's been so he as well so peres has surprised me. I mean yup bradley called him you know liked his game tip for. That's a high compliment. Come from a guy coming out of indoor suck right famous famously. Only two people who listen to the show i. I've written a sort of season preview in the forwards and it was long. And i was like i had to have gotten everybody and i just completely forgot the player. I did not include him in the article. I didn't even think about it until the next day and i was like. Oh all right well. That's the seventh guy. i apologize. It's not going to be going to be a big deal. He's making up numbers and then of course clearly clearly incorrect. He's he's a. There's no way that you could have predicted how many minutes he would have by this point that he would until get interrupted. Start and play every game or game. I know it's i know i was bumped from to hear about that injury. Obviously everyone in philly seem to be getting hurt Since you forgot switchblades when they did to forgotten within forget what they were playing But now he's been special. I mean he's just he's got a lot of quality and you could see to where what the relationship between him and medicine flora's was too and they just love to play together and so You know. I think it's kinda took a little bit of a hit. And maybe he had a little bit of a knock as well. It kind of took it. When has employers went down with this hamstring. But yeah he's he's been a bright spot See i mean. I honestly the whole team. Just kind of a bright spot. It's been everyone's been playing at a pretty high level Suspect suspect to press to probably has not had this much consecutive play since he was playing at the youth low he's not been a consistent professional starter since into so. I think that that's also gotta take a almost like a rookie form. Dip even as a middle order player. Like he's he's been around the game a little bit so that we were all want him to score a goal right like just just break that duck you so many opportunities and also i'd like to see andy score at home. I think that would be phenomenal. Another goal. I think that'd be great. I mean i think you know talking about players to is. Yeah andy's going in front of supporters that go crazy so but peres is gonna. I think you know. Hopefully he gets back healthy and back to form I think he's going to be a little bit like parade as right. Once he hits the back of the net like he's just kind of like a weight off your shoulders start to feel more comfortable inside the eighteen and You know if if if they could unlock peres. Germs hit in the back of the net as well. And that would be a big big piece for dc united. Just getting back healthy. I guess yeah. I i think it's a common discussion among fans and the media about the three players at the most three young players at the most playing time season. Two of them now starting to transfer buzz with varying degrees of probably accuracy with city. Football group being linked to kevin. Maybe that's true. Maybe they want maybe they wanna do. Put them the melbourne city or take him in new york city and screw us somehow But who do you think of. We talk about why they call themselves. Group gives a group like five or six people you know like instead of like a conglomerate each syndicate so of pines of pines spread is nyman. They're all they're all they're all doing. Great I think haya ceiling is always a discussion. I think that nyman was all. I'll tell you mine. I i had. I had nine minutes or to being the guy that i was thinking. Obviously the youngest but from a european attractiveness perspective his skill set his age. Still sort of maybe how it projects that he may be as the most likely to move sooner and and have opportunities But i think nowadays is hot right. Praise if they if someone came in for him. Now this is got. I i call up. Even though it wasn't a full cup first attention with the national team confidence scoring goals. Now positional versatility Pines getting opportunity to go play in the gold cup so You know if you had to guess. Who's the first one to really break out in and playing somewhere else It's a good question. It's you know my my opinion is it's kevin pratice And the reason being is attacking players like that that the technical ability he hasn't won be one situations Pace just his overall skill set a left-footed dynamic winger those and not to say a nine man or pines are easy to come by either but those those are tough to come by right like left-footed loves going one b. One can be a wingback can maybe be a left back. Can maybe be a you know. High winger I haven't really seen him inside but he is comfortable coming inside. And you know kind of providing some link between center meds in the forward. So i think if i were to name one i'd probably say peretti's but of course i mean nine men just he's got so much quality to his game in terms of me so young you see his game so composed for being little in stature. He's got tremendous balance and strength. And he can you know timing tackles is tremendous to and so he can you know. Write off some challenges that you wouldn't expect them to write off. You can win some challenges that you would expect them to win and he needs it. You know any young player. He's got some room for improvement. I think distribution in terms of you know maybe over twenty thirty yards could be improved but he still has since game as well so And you don't need that. All the time is a number six you can always just you know as long as you're playing forward which you can do split in lines then You know that that he's got a high ceiling too. So i don't know i i don't want to put a beagle rohner. You can't go wrong keiko. yeah. I think it's just Obviously is with the national team. Used to and fantastic and so I don't know if there'd be a transfer coming from him But he's you still got some developing to do but just his his ability his role as a centre back in the back. Three i think is is perfect. Firm at the moment is just developing every game and getting this time with the national team on her berhalter's gonna do wonders first game as well. So we asked moses sort of like what you ask every young player like. Who do you who do you. Who do you monitor your game after you look at kante and i was like that was the one obvious like i was the one on my on my mind. Obviously the fact that you know riding on challenges being the shortest guy in the field being able to muscle guys off the ball but also looking like the wind could blow you over like a things that don't make sense. He can dealer fly and that's got to be attractive right. Yeah it's it's it is a skill sets talent right. I mean like And his ability to contact is ability to just move his feet constantly and i mean it puts players in bad positions because they can't get around them and it's just terrific footwork in nyman is Is tremendous footwork as well and a good time challenge. So yeah he's he's so tidy with the ball at his feet to like. I mean he's so comfortable he. I remember last year like frigo. Game was became enlightened game and I think it was towards seasons at dc. Backstory was up. And i remember he got played a tight ball from the centre back and two midfielders coming down to close. It was just a casual little open. The hip split Split the seemed just with the ball at his feet. And so yeah. That sort of composure is a yet at that age. It's simply it's remarkable. It's good times for dc fans you know there was always though was always the criticism about you know not playing the academy kids enough and then my argument would be. What did they do when they laughed like are they are they national teams eric williams and being a an the the one proving the the opposite but that would always be the thing is like well. They didn't go on right like so. Maybe that maybe ben was evaluating talent properly. Maybe that was the case. But now you have these kids that are busting on the doors. Kevin is basically is a is a is a nail bond. Sorta now at this point. I don't think. I maybe not. But i feel like if he's healthy that they can't keep him out of the lineup right. Now that's a good thing it's he's become pivotal over the past month or so. I mean it. Kind of changes dynamic journalists talked about it a little bit like they'll overload the right side hoping to be able to get him isolated on the left side for one. Be one situation than i mean. There's not too many coaches in the league of players on the right. They're willing to just tactically change things slightly to get this player in these good situation. So yeah he's spun audi field to now like he gets on. And there's this expectation that something amazing is gonna happen with you. Love to shield that energy but at the same time like to play. Yeah well there's a pop do lineup stu. It's fun to watch the evolution like. Yeah new you get you get a pop your first game. Hey it's the new kid. Great and then maybe nothing happens for a while and then he just becomes like baseline polite clap and then you score a goal and then you start doing these things and then you are bill level pablo. Yeah that's fun to watch the sort of seeing how the fans react two more questions for you. I appreciate you taking your time on this. What will be. It's wednesday night Again we don't know what days things are anymore. Doesn't we've kept the power the sun the they did not get electrocuted. Looks great. I won't bring up harborview indepth because the filibuster went a little bit in depth in it When when you you're on their podcast but that was the first year. I had a season ticket package so i was sitting right in front of where you were celebrating after your first goal so i remember that like extremely clearly i love. I love the champions league. I'm on. I'm on record of talking about it all the time i feel like it never really taken off in the way that i would hope it to take off and obviously besides what was your experience like playing international tournament. A club competition like that. And what do you think besides an mls team winning. What makes it more of a draw. What makes it more of a tv draw. Gets people in the in the in in the seats on a wednesday night is it. Is it just that americans don't watch other like they watch european leagues they watch. You know they'll watch mls but as far as they're not finding like channel seven thousand find out. What would joe public is doing in the league or like maybe they league amex watch that but beyond that he's sort of unknown team. So how do you. How do you sell that to an american consumer i. They haven't figured it out yet. No i mean. I i you know you watch champions league champions leak To be perfectly. Frank the only games i watch and champions league have mls teams. I'm not watching too much soccer to watch the not watching the harborview verse. Saprissa but yeah. It's i think a big unlock for the american soccer community. And this is just me. Spitballing is is an mls team winning. And the reason. I say that is because intel. We win it. It's it's a you know mexican dominated trophy and so with that. It's always the attitude of ground. Really need to watch that game or because like even if they win the first lady they're going to go to mexico. We always know what happens. When american teams or canadian teams go to mexico and while that narrative has changed slightly over the past like five years. Remember when i was playing it was like oh my gosh we gotta tie pachuca like this was like major news and now you know teams are starting to win but Just unable to really get through to the obviously hopefully Philadelphia can do it but ultimately lift up the trophy and so. I think that'll help. It's just an american culture thing to of just being ingrained in your club and and what this means to the club. I mean right. Being the best in the region to wherever the world club championship is going to be held in like. Potentially if you know we're able to fly to that in a second that i would it would be i. They could get beat thirty seven nothing by liverpool or whatever and i like. This is the best thing that i have ever asked for. And yeah i know exactly. And so until intel analyst kind of has that breakthrough. I think it's just always going to be kind of like a bit of misery and like slightly watching the games but not fully invested. Because you're a book you've read before so that's my thought on it and i don't know i mean. Obviously we know next league maxima. Gosh the mexican league. Obviously we know like they're supporting and the united states is massive too and so it's a difficult thing for garber n- whoever else is making decisions. Like how do we compete against that. While also leveraging all they supporters that come watch our teens so they're trying to figure that out now with all the well. The nation's leaks nations but whatever the whatever it's called leagues cup the league's trying to figure it out. Yeah so it's because it's a cash cow. I think both lanes are trying to figure out how to do. What i don't want to see is just one huge north american league. I think that. Just loosens the i. I think i lost. It'll be locked. A lot will be lost there. Because you know you're not gonna have philadelphia. You're not gonna have a new york red bulls coming to town. You'd have while you may have them. You'd have once a year once every other year. You might get them cavallo on a saturday exactly cool. I guess that's fine cool. Who and then you don't have any players right. Yeah so Your question you started with just sort of like what it felt like to play in it. I think the thing the thing. There's a weird visual. Remind what. I about champions league in that era i remember. I remember the champions league logo falling. Everyone's jersey because they were iron on a last second and they were just not even an iron. I'm gonna blow dryer. You're putting it on the sleeve. Just i remember like you know the off all over the field after the after the game there'd be like tenable on the field honestly at the time i was. I was very naive right. Like i mean. I knew of these clubs and i just thought playing for dc night did i was lucky. I went to like the best most historic club and mls coming out of college. And i thought it's just what you did like you just you just played pachuca and you played cruises oil and like this is just what you did. You're in concacaf champions league every year and so You know while you're i remember. I mean just being amazed by the quality of these teams and being in mexico city and like getting the feeling the vibe of like what it means to be part of that club in that city. Something that you know. I don't think at the time denied players were experiencing You just it was. I was just ninety to like a- it was to me. Just another game. And i look back and i watched champions league and While obviously we're out there to to win the games and Put forth my best effort. I just thought it was something you did ever seen him like in the in february. You're going to go to like costa rica. you're gonna go to jamaica and you're gonna play a couple of games or you'll play a game and then you'll come back and you play another game and it'll be thirty degrees and then we'll go place a mexican teams and Now i'm watching. I'm like i just had no idea the gravity of what these games actually meant in i. I still kind of That's one thing. I look back on my career. And i'm like i didn't even like exchange jerseys with any of these teams because it's it is special it really is and so I think that the gravitas of plane and champions league for mls teams as are now. I think their understanding of what it means for them to have a chance to be earliest playing with the best teams in the region is taken seriously Anna's not say it wasn't taken serious by our staff or by dc night but like in the moment it was just like another game. And i just thought you were young right. I mean you're young. That's like anybody else's. I was a i walked into a successful club. And you don't always understand the the work that went into that success with people who had gotten there before you and so Yeah all obviously quickly faded after the Two thousand i think was the last year that we were part of any sort of international. Yup i remember the two thousand eight was a that was a there was a group stage game where you went through three goalies because of red cards injury and two red cards james. Thorpe came on and save the penalty of leave. Wait yeah so we're time. That was right as i was getting into the phantom of just like you i was like well. We're always going to be in. This is something that. I have to love right. Speaking james sharp. Didn't you get a red card against cruise wool for wasting time. Like in the first half. I wanna say he was starting. I believe also as a real real bummer. For him or kid. Yup so you said. I think it was wrap up any. I wanna know about fond memories from the open cup. When i was eight right was it. Oh eight or eleven. Oh yeah known to me. As the only time i've ever seen a decent Winner trophy in front of me. So that i remember very and did louis crayton run out in practice. Also would he. Would he run to like midfield. Dribble the ball out and do crazy stuff. That was yeah. I mean this was a character. I mean he played with a smile on his face and just an overall character. A good dude but yeah as a defender that sort of approach the game is. Why have gray hair you think. I bleach my hair gray hair because Yeah but goodness yeah that so. I was fortunate to be. My my rookie was two thousand six. We won the supporters. Shield again naive like cool. Good for us. we're the league is. This is what we do. Do that repeated that when the supporter shield. Two thousand eight. Oh my goodness. What's it like not to win. The supporters shield. What is like the battle and so when we had the opportunity to be in the final for the oakland cup. I mean you know for january to host sitting and against the battery and we had a lot of good players. Fred was on the team scored. That game didn't he. I think he got that he. I think Emilia gone madigan. Millo i finish the early going to and I think he like hurt. His groin in the process of scorings. And you've got subbed off. But yeah i mean it was. It was awesome. It was really Being able to do it in front of the you know everyone in rfk It was awesome. It was i like to i. I don't know every. I have different. Thoughts and with the highlight of my career was lifting. A trophy obviously is always at the top but there may be like a couple of moments where like dreams come true and create a bit of an equaliser but It certainly was a special moment. It was a hard game to. I mean i remember. We weren't taking the battery lately. It was we knew there were gonna come out. And we knew they're gonna play. I think they had Alonzo is holding down. The midfield for them Obviously it's got a tremendous career and mls and so they had some quality players and made a game of it and you know we came out on top and lift the show and it was just a it was a fantastic but the hard part about the the the open cup is when you're winning fan of wednesday night and you play on saturday the next day. The celebration doesn't last look so celebrating in front of the celebrating part of the bar. I remember just everyone that trophy over. Yeah it was very cool. I've yeah hope. Another moment like that again in the future Devon thank you so much for joining or occupational hourlong podcasts. Sorry for i. I should thank you for joining 'cause i i was wondering talking the whole time. So thank you. That is the idea man. I appreciate it up. Well we know where to find him on tv He's also on twitter. Instagram biting twitter is the one maybe a little bit more than that would that be or which one where if someone were to follow you would they have more value. Yeah both of them value. And so yeah. I'm i'm on twitter. Probably probably that more than instagram. So do some do some stuff. There can reply to people there so yeah. It's just that diva mukti instagram. The same but it's mostly my children unit. You might get some or if you want to. You can so that or get to own and work whatever you want to do you. Can i have proof. Evidence that he will read these tweets. He'll see them. If there's a delay in the game he will see them. So do i need your if it's right proof of life. It's like hold the newspaper up next year. Was this devon. Thank you so much for joining everybody. This is the second episode of the week. I believe later on this week. We'll have an interview with actually sanchez. So make sure you are. Subscribed the podcast. If you want this podcast. 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Chicago Fire FC Preview with Tyler Terens

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Chicago Fire FC Preview with Tyler Terens

"Welcome at least girls refugees. Podcast ted here City count with the play by play for the chicago. Fire is also the co host of the intercontinental football. Show podcast with our low whites tyler tyler. Thanks for joining us. And it is my pleasure. Honor to be talking some dc united and the cargo fire with you on this tuesday afternoon. How are you. i'm doing. I'm doing well and thanks for agreeing to come on. And give us an insight. Obviously we've played the fire. Once it was a one. Nothing victory in audi field. I believe is back in april or i'd have to go back and look back in either. April may thirteen. So i if feels further back. I guess in my in my memory than than than than it actually is gives a sense. You know what's has any sort of major changes for the fire has been since then you guys have struggled but you did pick up a few wins. Last game was was not. i think what. What the fire. We're looking for up to give us a sense. What's what's changed for the fires since since that may thirteenth game. Yeah so you know. There has been Definitely some changes You're going to see a different looking fire team than when you saw back on may thirteenth You know the biggest change in what we started doing against philli and actually it was the first time to be gone to a three back system Basically three five to Since amyloidosis bat so we played a three back in a melissa's back last year for the entire tournament obviously We didn't get out of the group stages in some fans were asking. Is this right formation and whatnot and we are going to a four to three one That was effective in the boy. Settled into it Following on the lessons back. And that's what we were in and then raphael wicky the head coach who actually Stepped away for personal reasons. A family member very close family members as having some health problems. He actually flew switzerland to be with them For the time being. He's he had at the at the very least is going to miss The dc game and that he obviously missed the game over the weekend He implemented a throwback system with fc basel when he took two champions league round of sixteen. Which is the first time. That is twisting. Gotten there And he loves the three back and when we talked to him last year. He said that he wants them to be able to do it. If if they're in a pinch. And i guess he felt like they need a little more cover at the back wanted to get some higher starting positions for secretary. Miguel navarro the to wingback. Who typically play fullback And that's what he's rolled with since since the philadelphia game got three three jobs. Still delta Three mill against atlanta three one against orlando and then obviously like you said not exactly the look that you want against nashville but as everybody at the club saying we're gonna write that game often in the words of famous television character dea goldfish in have a short memory and that's sort of what the fire. That's what the fire trying to do here. so it was. It was definitely a struggle in nashville. Go down three nil and you go down a man inside a sixteen minutes. The game don. There's no way that you're coming back from that. It's just reality. But with all that said since the three back We've been scoring a lot more goals. Nacho elyssa has really started to settle in. He's got three goals This season already has got two goals in the past two games and no susan. That's that's not right. He did not score against orlando Against atlanta many scored against nashville. Excuse me i'm getting games mixed up here but You know it's just going to be a different looking formation than what we saw that one new win for you guys in you. It's pretty interesting ted because you guys were decimated with injuries for that game. I believe paula. Arreola had actually made his made his comeback from from his acl injury. That was the first game that he had appeared in quite some time. And then in addition to that i think flora's for his first goal for dc united Then obviously was in a good run of form and then got hurt. But it's sort of the same story maybe even more so you have more injuries and and missing pieces than you did back on may thirteenth game but as the fire found out You guys are extremely deep loud. United has served you guys really well in terms of guys being able to bounce back and forth and and contributing when they need to i think coverage actually got the start Which is his first major league. Soccer start So it's it's interesting prospect of the fire. It's definitely a different formation with a lot of the same names and faces that dc. United fan saw macaroni thirteen. Yeah i think. I think when we last played may thirteenth. We were kind of sort of getting those players. Sort of back from injury. I you're right we are. We've been bitten by the the injury bug again It looks like he might have to deal with the with johnny boulevard. Coming from loudon is looking like the potential starting starting forward there gimme essence. What would they find interesting. You know obviously The five one result kinda kinda hung on with me a little bit because we we saw a another coach in another team. That i mean the fire i know lately. They have new ownership. They're trying to be ambitious. They're trying to connect with the fans. raviol- wicky was hired december. Twenty nineteen obviously twenty twenty. You kind of write it off unless you had a coach for ten years like dc. Donelson i think that was the straw that broke the camel's back Says what what is the. What is the rope for for raphael. Wicky because i mean lately you see some some good things with this team. I feel but overall you look at the overall picture and you're like it's still i mean for lack of better words not good enough. I don't think the team envisions being bottom of the table for for for the foreseeable future. No of course. Not i mean. Listen you know you've been around this game long enough it. of course. it's not what you want. I mean no team has the aspirations to go set out and be you know in eleventh place in mid-july but the reality is is that this is a team said that you know. We were an expansion team last year without the two year runway to try to build a roster if that makes sense so new ownership comes in new badge the obviously that has since been changed going back to soldier field. New offices downtown than i'm sitting in. Right now i mean this fire is is is almost unrecognisable From from previous iterations of of the club all all in a good sense You a lot of fans will say that it's the same old fire blah blah blah and all those comments on social media but the fact of the matter is is that this is a team. It's not an excuse for more so reality. This is a team was thrown together. Seventeen eighteen signings in between the nineteen twenties. In addition to integrating entirely new technical staff bringing in a head coach Bringing in a sporting director in technical director. Enjoy tight sebastian. Pelzer and trying to make it work in the middle of a pandemic stop. Start stop start. Stop start now. Every team in the league to deal with it and every team went through but again the fact of the matter is that. it's not miami. It's not nashville. Where you have two years to try to put a roster together. They had about three months to put a roster together and again. It's not an excuse. And then you know i'm a. I'm a fan of this game just as much as i'm an employee of this game. I obviously want to see results. I wanna see the fireplace. While i work for them. You know i've i've fallen in love with the city in this team You know the the word on the you know the word here is that you know rafael. Wiki is a smart level headed intelligent caring empathetic and he's a good person as well. Those are all things that you want an head coach. You know we've seen some some things going on around the league particularly some accusations against gabrielle. Hindsight you know that that aren't ideal. You know you're not getting now with rafael wicky. You're getting somebody who treats players like adults who's gonna look them in the is gonna tell them exactly what he expects of them. If they're not performing he's not gonna yell and scream and you know make a scene he's just going to simply You know tell him that he expects more But at the end of the day you know there are some. There are some players. We've yet to see you talked about stanislav even off Briefly but he's a player that we signed in the off season. That was probably the most polished and game ready. He tears his meniscus has his alfred four to six months during preseason. We had seven injuries at the beginning of preseason basically all of them in the attacking the attacking third You know an at the end of the day you robert berisha's when a ten match goalless streak. Your highest eight players are designated player. He's a streaky goalscoring. He's proven that he had he had a seven-match streak last year. We didn't score but then he goes on taryn scores and six straight games and almost set the club record so You know there's been a lot of things that have contributed to Maybe a lack of results that we've seen but the fact of the matter is is that this is still very much a we're building something here An again this was this was basically starting a team from scratch. And i know that maybe some fans in the chicago area. Don't want to hear that but it's just the reality and when you start a team from scratch they're going to be something's wrong. They're going to be things that you get right. But at the end of the day. I i enjoy talking with the. I think he's incredibly. Intelligence is the guy And we're just gonna see what what's going to happen. you know. They wanted to be have some continuity heading into this year they stuck with a group that one. Five games adjustments down in the postseason If not for for a last minute loss against nyc afc on decision day last year. So you know who knows what can happen if they won that game. Got into the postseason. You never know but There's a lot of things that you know. This club obviously still is driving towards is working towards the do not compete eleven. Place i can tell you that with with the utmost confidence But there's still a lot of things that need to settle in roughly. A wicky still has not coached. What have we played twelve or thirteen games. We played twenty four so he bare just eclipsed his first year Ours a thirty four game normal schedule was concerned just yet. So it's you know you keeping that in perspective for fire fans. I think. I think it's pretty big. Sorry for long winded. Her require no. I appreciate it. Yeah i think. I think it's it's it's certainly fair the this is this is really the first sort of normal season we could We could ask for dc obviously made the move. But i think that was. That was sort of coming when you when you forget to actually make sure your lineup set correctly. I think that was kind of the writing on the wall for for me and a lot of other fans With with with regards to understand the team sort of saying you know we're going to give him time like you said and and obviously there was a lot of stuff i didn't know i didn't know it was. This was just like a complete wholesale change from top to bottom almost for the fire. So that's that's very interesting and certainly good to see and they certainly seem engaged with the fans which i think is the most important thing With regard to that. I did want to also ask Obviously the move to to soldier field has kind of been the big move Do you see that i mean. Obviously we'll tell you anything. You put a successful product on the peel of people. Show up. i've been. I've actually been out to two games at soldier field. I went out when i in middle school out to see. Actually them play. Dc united it. Just so happened. I was visiting at the time. I remember the crowds being being a little on the on the spar side but I could certainly see. It was certainly a very Beautiful stadium great location. You know everybody knows where it is. sort of where we're kind of in In the first two twenty twenty said we can throw that out I mean that wasn't really That wasn't really a good indication. How have you seen sort of the move was sort of bringing in fans do you see fans may be that you know the drive out to bridgeview was was not a good was was just not something you would want to see. And now you're seeing more fans come in what is sort of the move to soldier field sort of meant For for the chicago fire. It's been massive tended really. Has i mean when you think about soldier field in the history behind it you know the chicago bears and going back to the early days the chicago fire from ninety eight until the early two thousands before they moved to bridgeview that. It's where the team that's what the fans identify with. is that chicago. Fire frankie klopas Koseki razov damarcus beasley in carlos bocanegra when they're eighteen twenty years old. That is the chicago fire that they identify with end. You know football teams are meant to be in the city downtown right like football teams are meant to be in the in the in the heart of of the city that playing in and bridge is not the hardest chicago you know. God bless And seek stadium. But it's just the fact that i'm not Nothing against it but it's just it's just the way that it is and you know jomon suada when he when he took over the team as the owner recognize that he said i wanna get them back to soldier field whatever it takes and and we had full capacity for the first time against land united at three no win and ted it was deafening in there You know full full full capacity for soccer is about twenty six. Five i believe is the number and we had about sixteen there. It was it was. I believe it was pretty bad weather on that day but we still got sixteen thousand people out there and it was incredible incredible atmosphere. It's only going to get better and like you said it's not rocket science you know. There's there's no secret formula. If you put a good progress on the field they will come. If you build it they will come and the chicago fire continuing to build. Something isn't maybe taking a little bit longer than than fans had hoped for absolutely But they're still building and we've seen glimpses of what this team what. Some of the young players that they've signed can do and combine that with the soldier field experience in being on the lakefront. And it's just gonna continue to take off. This club is only going in one direction on. it's up and when everything starts to click between the front office the product on the field the game day experience that's led by some credible people here at the chicago fire. That have been waiting for year and a half to be able to put this on finally able to do so. And it's and it's it's really the best experience or the fan. You could take a walk along the lakefront trail for. Maybe you know like two hours before the game. You role in burnham bounds. This big fan festival. That happens every game. you know. There's little games that you play their small sided deer and the whole thing. It's just a great experience and it's really been amazing for the club. Yeah definitely. That's definitely something i'd be interested in in in in checking out again. You mentioned those Those names rozov. You left off a couple of other names. And i'm glad you did because i would have gotten. Ptsd from from some of that. One of your former midfielders. They'd give us an mls and our last mls cups. So i will give you all that. I want to get a question on a stanislav. Even off pronounced that correctly so he he's ready to make you talked about his his injury he picked up in preseason. So maybe that maybe i. Maybe you can't really tell me much. But i mean gimme what. What have you seen from him as a player. What can we expect because it looks like he might be available. Maybe he. maybe he'll start in this game and that might be something different that That fans are won't be expect a at the won't have one really had a chance to see. Yeah i mean listen. I haven't seen a ton of him when he when we first were Signing him you know. I was looking at some scouting videos. And the like and what i saw was a player who number one is just incredibly passionate about the game. He loves to play. He loves to score. Big goals loves the moment. Loves to celebrate with the fans i mean he is a footballer footballer. That's number one number two. He's incredibly fast. He's very pacey. he's quick laterally. He can go north to south and he can. He can break lines in stretch the field. He solid on the ball You know he's got a nice low center of gravity. He's he can finish the attacking third. He has a good Ranger passing and. I think that he is envisioned as well. In a given time and space. You can pick out a killer. Passers well You know he. I think is best. Physician will probably be like an inverted winger that he's right-footed put him on the left side. Let him cut inside and let them link up that way. You could also put him at stryker. And i think you could even potentially play. On the term payments some sort of hybrid eight ten role Sitting in front of a holding defensive central midfielder so you know we clearly has a and and he can offer different things to the club and he had some interest from some big clubs galatassary. I was after. I'm a little bit and we're going to beat them to the punch shirt. Maybe our offer was low bit better whatever the case might be. But he's a guy who was gone. Some interest is only about twenty one years old. He's still very young. he's always got a big smile on his face. And i think he's chomping at the bit. I mean this is a guy that came to a new country integrated into a new culture. A lot of these guys who are coming maybe for some of these smaller leagues the idea playing in the united states and playing a major league soccer i mean beyond their wildest dreams and starting to get ready starting to get fit and that he goes down with meniscus injury that they initially thought was only going to be four to six weeks and ends up being four to six months so he can see a guy. That's really hungry. He's not matt fit. I would be shocked if he starts Maybe he's coming off the bench and maybe inject some fresh legs and instruct the field but This is a player. That when when we sign jonah spinoza so four and stanislav even I i always thought that he was the most game ready and most polish and ready to go. So i'm really eager to see him. And i know that the fans are as well all right. So dc fans obviously no frankowski barrick. Obviously we know. Fabian harbors This is officially now been dubbed the daas soccer podcast rivalry players that host. That hosts the podcasts. Yeah but the but who's a player. Maybe that maybe you feel doesn't get enough national attention on the fire. Who's a player that you know you're surprised in circles doesn't get attention or a player. Maybe that fans might not be familiar with That you think would be an interesting player to watch on on wednesday. I'm not sure if you mentioned him. But madryn You know he's he's the guy in the middle of the field. He's got about eighty league appearances to his name. Became the real madrid came on as a substitute for a mortgage in his in his debut for For real madrid at one point in time so this guy that clearly has the skill to play at that level. I think he's about twenty eight now. He just turned. Twenty eight is incredibly smooth on the ball he was. He's been three times named a team of the week in consecutive weeks. Before the nashville game he had five assistant three matches. You know this is a guy who can boss the middle of the field and you know he. He's one of those players. He's just electric in the middle of the park. And it almost kind of gives you a heart attack. Always doing it. He'll hold onto the ball and make you think that he's taking too many touches but then he'll blow right past. You know one or two one or two guys who are pressing the. That's that's your guy styles you get run straight out is for ninety minutes Madrid try to take some of those guys on. He can break the first line of pressure. He's gonna hit a great pass on the other end and try to fresh fields. So he's got to keep an eye on the middle of the field and he's just a lot of fun to watch his number ten and he plays like he's got that swagger out that confidence in and he can do some really special things on. The ball will tyler. Thank you so much for joining us my friend before i let you go did want to get a prediction out of you. What do you. What do you feel in offers this game. We always do this with our guests. I'd prediction for the game. You guys like the press you just gave up two almost identical goals to philadelphia on the counter attack. You guys actually did enough to win that game. You're going to be a little bit pissed off about that Obviously with some injuries peres went down and and canal house. No word on them yet. let's go to one to the fire to one. I'm going one one. I think a lot of plans are there are a lot of fans in the in the dc area. I think that are kind of writing this game. I mean i would say this is probably the game. We're gonna look to win I think we'll come up short. I think we got injuries I think we'll do enough. But i think i'm thinking a one one one. Draw here tyler. Thank you so much rejoin is more my friend. You've been an awesome guest forgiveness a preview of the fire giving You know if you wanna drop anything for fans that i'd be listening to Obviously your podcast. I know is produced with the chicago fire. But it seems to be guys are taking more of an international Soccer approach With arlo whites so definitely Feel free to plug that plug whatever you would like the opportunity. Yes so sort of podcast was just launch. Last week I episode in the books and we got some really good feedback on it. It's called the intercontinental football show. You can get it anywhere where you look after podcasts And it's a lotta fun. You know arlo white. The voice of the primarily. Not much more to say about him. He's he's an absolute gem of of football host and commentator and a human being and i love working with them and getting to know him while he called a few games for us. Wanna follow me on twitter at ti. Turns i just got verified a couple of weeks ago so i'm still riding that i And that's about it. That's all i got. Ted and i appreciate you having me on intercontinental. Football show is the podcast. We talk primer league we talk. You know big football storylines. We'll also talk some chicago fire as well. It is a chicago fire. Fc production But looking forward to the game on wednesday in the plates and entertaining one that ends in a fire three points. And i know that that's not exactly popular opinion on this podcast. Darn i'm gonna say it anyway. ted. I appreciate you. We appreciate tribalism at any forms. Trust me all right guys. Thank you so much for listening again. Twitter dot com slash argue refugees after dot com We're going to put this up for patriots. probably. I'll put it off this if you listen this on this on her patriot. We appreciate it. If you're listening to this on wednesday morning or maybe a little bit later tuesday evening joyner patriot. You get early access to all this content so definitely. Check it out Tyler again for joined the show and we will catch you guys We're doing another got two games. Got anymore previews. we'll get your later famous.

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How we can sell our services in a crisis with Richard Woods

The Thaducation Podcast

41:49 min | 1 year ago

How we can sell our services in a crisis with Richard Woods

"On today's had the pleasure of rich woods about selling other lots of questions recently. About how can we sell our services in a crisis without feeling sleazy and this is a real topic? I WANNA get into Richard Side. Years of experience is very good at selling but also he sold all sorts of things across all different mediums. Where the in person online over the phone? He's very versatile. What makes them different is? He's a very he's community. Man Very strong family man and a very popular so I wanted to get him his take on what to do because this is something we're going to struggle with and I love the way he approaches it and his kind of philosophy for this is selling yes in a crisis but this is kind of approach to sales in life. So it'd be enjoyed the episode. I always enjoy talking to him. And if you've got any questions for me or Richard Please send the message two thousand times occasion Dot Com. Enjoy rich morning fantastic. So I've had the pleasure of Richard Woods joining me on this latest episode of the put cost and I will be doing liberate on a deep dive with ritual about his background and the sales which will be publishing by thought as this. Is You know unusual. Time And I don't know many people better than Richard Woods when it comes to selling to get him on to kind of tell us about him. And what's he up to and really the the big topic for today's discussion is how do I sell myself in a crisis? Okay where do you? WanNa Stop Okay. So brief via about youth for those you who might might know rich. Just a very very brief overview about your history and sales and kind of want you love it and And that's it really just get just so put a context on kind of appreciate your experience and what you bring to the table because to this case if you're listening to beat for the first time caller Richard Woods. My mccutchen is it's been sales in my life Ever since age of eight nine years. Old seven flowers Batna the driveway right. The way through nights currently Sachs's sales and marketing director for communications company. I also say across other company. Such is a racing driver also that then companies commercial directors. I'm manage a team of sales people In one of the bowls cover ACA communication company. So for me Sales has been all if you cut me in half of the salesperson respectable Mitchell types of size and for me my passion in life is matching the right products and services to the right people on the census action though in the both parties Mary healthy I think this whole story that reaches almost see when you young you bitten by salesman and a bit like Spiderman you became like a cell superhero. That's the risk yeah. I think I've watched I don't show it like right fit but having watched someone very close to make you very well and all my cell to survive times. I lent some very good techniques. I think what we're facing right now in front of us. If the Celtics Survived Movement I think many great people sharing advice on a wonder how many actually have to sell. This is Where we've been in that situation back when I was fourteen years thought from twelve years old where there wasn't any money coming in and the put we were selling at the time. We got six weeks without making a sale. My family had to gamble Some money that that come in the tax credits for children to pay for the food and close to my sister and I and into paying the bills for the business and and the gamble worked and we ended up selling only survive. So in fact we didn't just survive. We went on to flourish so I think you know I come at this from five different angles. It's a lot of the People. This people add believed to be a salesperson. You wake up And apply for a job and with a little bit of training. You can be a salesperson and to some extent I agree with that. has My simple steps to selling course. I think I'm able to prove that you can train people to be sales people yum however This still drives a education. The one the will and the passion. It's it's a bit a bit light. What makes Some very successful at rugby. If you think the best kickers in the world for Glazebrook Bake and they are the guys the last ones off pitch the Johnny Book. Since story building Jerusalem. The tilt train much about he was the guy that was on the bus as they set off to go. I'm playing the tournament is he was still putting a bull. The tea and kicking between the posts as everybody was shot. Joe Valley on the way to go. He was also the guy that sits on the page all given day. Alice and I was fortunate to have lunch with Sam Warden Sam Warburton and he used to talk about the fact. He wouldn't into the pulse James for him. It was all about the grit. The determination the rusty waits the cold lockup that was his ship Which sets about four for life and being successful international rugby player rugby's one of my passions and For me I take from this sportspeople. What is it going to be for me to be successful? How can I relate some stuff? These guys have already done on people before them. So it's constant coastal development has hunker that determination of finding Pacino opportunities when really they're digging around understanding your client building those relationships episode and that gives me the passion still today. It's the same thing that drove me well thirty years ago and so that's the thing I say it's kind of You've got to be passionate about selling which I think is important for me. It's one of those things I think. sticky for the audience to credit people that passion about setting an ideal world. We would probably like either for someone to deal with it for us all to have the jobs coming to us now but I also know that. It's one of the things that you need to be getting regular enquiries to boot up your confidence to get better selling. You know the kind of vicious circle. I think the this is where in this kind of situation. You've got this virus kicking around. There is always the problem. A Lot. People weren't remotely which is to your advantage but you probably at the end of supply chain and what is coming down the Chinese basically no money because Sloan is kicking in their having to stop business as usual conserve resources and so the challenge as you know it's okay now but in a few months because you're on that lag again when it will start up you can if there will be a delay as they try and get everything else in place so. I think it's really interesting and I wanted to bring you on because I want to know things like will walk in you do and then kind of what's best for the best approach because I've seen so much where people are saying. I would be one of the people to say look building relationships now. He's is really important for when things were Culpa Yukon. You know was being to another guy who we both know when he was saying. He's really busy but he's really skinned because he's helped pay for free and there is a point of. You've got to make money somehow so I know what is it do. I- pivots new industry. Do I changed my tactics. Do I develop a new product? What would you say okay? So the first thing today is mentally. Get your head straight us. provides like give us the first action? Because at that right. Now there's a sense of panic sets why people are highly stressed. It's GonNa be tough but you've gotta get your head straight first before you can move move forward and following that then you need to come up with a plan that all the plans that you've done to deny them not effective anymore as soon as the government and I'm still time period in the UK. That was it. It was game set match via plans for this year. You need to be back taking this time to evaluate What it is is gone while sites. We don't forget we are a couple of weeks the percents As we as we speak today and there will still be people doing business out there and there will still be people threatening if you're an adult but you need to sit down and you need to formulate that plan of what it is to help you so you need to take a look at what your offerings are I'm also makes taking the hiking. You diversify some of your offerings. There is a lot of GIN based companies have gone into an sanitizing through this crisis. That's a good innovative way of thinking. So if you concentrate one part of your business without changing all the day is at one part of Your Business and you could make a small change for short periods of time. That will not to talk to any available markets. Is I never the nightman? Okay that makes sense so as you say. It's kind of Oto Select the point because people who all about practical who maybe didn't make a plan for twenty twenty. This is a good chance to kind of like the pit. Cooked pit car is going around the rice the back but now we're all at the front so now you're going to make a plan. This is a good time to do it. Because it's leveled everything everyone say probably looking at what the results are that. You have available objectively and go. Could I re purpose them in another way? And I wanted to reference point that I was talking to Actually told to this person years ago by innovating in that business but I gave they were running a restaurant and I gave the example out-of-season I would turn the dining room into a classroom and I would spend all that time and I would utilize the you know the chefs. I had available because he his thing was wanted to keep his chef's on during the winter but they were busy in the week so I said well in the week. You've got that big space. You should turn that into a classroom and a recording studio and should be filming content for the following year and doing cooking schools and teaching people online so actually using your talent annual resources and then offering a delivery service to get rid of all the food cooking and then that way you can kind of be still taking over and I think that's the kind of approach where you would look at your business facilities and say well. Who needs space? Who needs what Alpha. Can I just what I do? And it's it's it's a way of just you'd have to change everything you just have to look a little bit. More objectively about what you have at your. Yeah you wouldn't you wouldn't take the restaurant and turn it into a retail outlet and stop sending shoes or jumpers or umbrellas in the winds and you take the restaurant as you said new For thinking slightly. More to the left or to the right where you are. I was talking about plans. Just the one thing I would say Tokyo by setting up Not Six months fans even cool to fans in tracks for the plants. I'd be working on a day and a leak. Yeah So you need to be looking down a week because the world's moving very fast we've also got to be looking days today because as we get different bits of information through It may be that what you decided on Friday last week and today mistreated today than you would be completely out of us the pace that you move up in a crisis and the other thing. David set up a war room and back in the old days they used to say that congregates everybody into the war room And if you're on your own you could still have a warring and what you do. Is You pinup great big board and you put your jet in the Middle? You haven't the what your competition if you have a look at what the market is doing and you look to see whether you can strike your tax ahead of anybody else because actually that's one way in which you can visually see what's going on in your business. I'm putting objective in the middle of the great big board and I will be looking in your plans around the outside. Stott almost a bit like buying cycle the buying circle where got rings the lead to a point of weeks they purchase and at right. Now you'll clients may be on the APP to Reagan. There might be three rings or five Rings Rangel Center Point but wherever your pride side? Would your thoughts be looking at? How can you guide them all the way to center? At how quick can you move into this? Because they get to the Center for the you've got yourself a business And is all the activists around so it may be utilizing a different marketing plan. Utilizing the product re strategizing. Wait this like pretend. Okay so would you say is very much like you might be looking to see which industries are doing. Well of an upset. It's going to be a bit of a sprint to reach those industries but if you say there are some disease that of innovated because of the times they in demand how would I go about researching businesses doing well in a pandemic said get. I'd be added on the Internet. I've been looking at market trends watching the news reading up on the latest blog to arrive there in terms of depending on what sectors. You're working in an idol simply trying to understand with your color bucket where the pain points on that and get back to your existing clouds and I've been on this conversation with them. They let when I was working with you before we were looking at launching a product or service in in October That was y'all go. That was around Bishen. We were working up to that. But what is your ambition that way we should go what what's changed in your plan and seeing whether you can uncover from existing businesses some additional support but also from than tapping insane. What okay if if my client is ex client. What that competition didn't I? Should I be talking to them on a grooving? Another one thing. I would caveat that way. It's just be careful because you could be working in industries where they're also died in caps as well And she researching competition to where you're already working may not get your long term game because like your coming kind. Think if you're struggling to I the way I would suggest this. Get THE ACTIVITY OUT. Get the plan in place Clear Mindset And then make effects point of going and seeing if you can achieve one small thing to start with whatever that goal is get a satisfaction that you've got that one bit of business at how do I find about the one about the what smarten up What you approach enormously tweet condition. Yes I think. That's that's revitalizing. You don't WanNa go made a mistake of going off. The industry might be struggling in a crisis so very very few advertising company that need support right night of marketing. Business that you've got to you've got to think that I. What IS THE PROBLEM STATE? And what will be in lunchtime two months time and treatments? And will you gotTa look is today's Brooklyn and had planned for the what next month the winner. So that's odd. Isn't it because I'm seeing? If we need a future would be. We'd be organized. He's a things I'd always recommend the people joining linked in groups on facebook groups of your dog. Odie it's just to read what they're talking about an asking them questions. These are especially if we're stuck at home and it's quite time consuming to jump on a call. I agree totally with current clients. Just finding saying how what do to help you. How can I serve you? Bet that is really valid I think it's a really good approach to be objective about okay. What industries are thriving? But then as you said some doughnut she need help with marketing. Branding cripe because they're they're in demand regardless and it's also important not to jump on into industries which you kind of think you are interested in going to be struggling in this if I've picking an industry so if I was on top of my head if I think you're right okay. What businesses are thriving? I might go right. Delivery businesses might think okay so delivery so anything a stock and startups probably because they're always looking to kind of take advantage and develop apps and stuff based on what is popular within culture. If I said I'm going to look at delivery businesses and I'm going to see if I can kind of help with that because everyone is the so many things being delivered nowadays so there might be some delivery. Business could help Royal Sivy thinking beneath as well yeah taxi companies because these people are not traveling anymore should be traveling around as much as they were but a lot of. Let's take the restaurant. Now that's turned into a delivery Anthony. Yeah what have the infrastructure to go onto live at the feet yet. Did the people can come and collect it anymore or they can do a take out of this. They can't come into the restaurant to sit me yet so I would be kind of trying to come up with a stretch test. Drives could make themselves for example approachable to restaurants in the area. Yeah I'm pat them up together highridge. Yes sorry you gobbled stitches together in the end it but we were just saying you just to recap I was about approaching a potential companies that are doing quite well and I said maybe a delivery business because stuck at home and I really liked your suggestion is going to say taxi company and partnering a business that needs delivery with delivery business Taxis and restaurants trying to do something. Put them together that somebody. I really love the opportunity and I love that thinking what the business that need each other in the match maker to bring them together. I think it's important in this time that you become popular and not necessarily in fuel win. Today you're in it to make the people's lives better so let me get back to that analogy. You've got restaurant that normally on Fridays at United on Sunday befo taxi driver on Saturday night. Come ten o'clock would be taking. The people had but actually That scenario at the maybe so why not apprentice taxi companies Prince restaurant companies and put a package together Where you can market the taxi? Come into the restaurant. Cut the Mafia the restroom company to j populate this new Sta- you isolate will come to you now and all in one package then. So for example southbound four Sunday lunches at delivered to your door for fifty pounds yet normally at ten reach for the Sunday lunch. Taxis Heaven but they backed up as a package to the public. That's very anxious and worried about going out in the car. In case the police pull him over is an essential journey. All the fear factor is at the neighbor gets taken away and that seat you know all we would have gone ahead today. We spent these tank but the drinks. So I can warrant fifty quaid and I could have that in my Dole. Restaurant made settled taxi driver to attend Penn State. Everybody's happy. Yeah that's enough. I think that I mean that is the way your brain is working as I mean I've ninety for many years and you'll very good at putting together people who can do business And I think I really liked that approach because it is because I think when I first started this wanting to get you on it was always the thing of how can I approach business and try and sell to the and that's always the kind of like I don't want to go to that pressure but what you're saying is I'm just putting together. People that can help each other mutually beneficial so yeah so the problem is the taxi. Driver doesn't have Ryan today. Because I had lost my Ryan today. 'cause I decided to stay at the restaurant. Problem IS I'm not selling any foods so it can hardly be seldom And how can I get the driver that dren some money and that death for the program as You know you're in that scenario where he had to come back to you. If you read the creative world you'd wrap this up in a very nice presentation that would show in love story of businesses coming together the act to support somewhat. I one thing I've noticed whole side is that there's lots of people celebrating events at the midday. That's right and there's nothing special about that birthdays asses today or is we have mother's Day a few weeks ago so why not then come up with the thought of you know will bring the state dinners and and you can still have that event? That celebration and one has to kick. So that's again we're trying to to mock it. The acts if I would someone in creative world. I'd be coming up with some design some concepts and I would then be dare. I say which may be a strange thing to do at night. Picking up the fight and I'd be talk. It's driving me tool king to the restaurant saying great idea. I love this story is sort of your buddy. I totally agree because you could do. I would do all the marketing promotion theme zoom poised for families where like you're delivering roast and everyone's giving people are more interesting kind of doing a website where you can do it. It's just but it's kind of like owned by the public like picky. Picky taxi will organize it. All for you and then I also love which is this is coming down to. You'll you know you'll hurt your specialism which is obviously picking up the phone. We totally can't do that independently. There's nothing stopping out to people. Where are everybody the minute? Everybody's at Hud or so. Actually if we're smart about this the one thing I've learned. Prices vary imports at a joke about twice tonight. Prices vary imported in any any time in. Its but actually two things. I think can affect Abbott people charged with things. It's creativity attentive investment. If I've come up with a really good idea. It doesn't matter what it costs providing the return on investments that if I was sat in my creative world man and I come up with the idea of making it out designing a fly to facebook campaign creighton video whatever that looked like branded up. New Package Occupant almost Clogged up at different companies. I've got an idea I'm gonNA build you a website. This website will have within You'll menu and then it will have a tendency calculator and we'll do a mileage two point zero and you commend Older but you'll fade at. It will come from the taxi driver. Gets AN EDUCATION RESTAURANT? Gets MEDICATION TAXI THEM ACCEPTS? It goes collected the limits to highs public in. The meantime has gone fantastic service and gets well when this is all that instead of relying on simply the usual forms of take Yele shall we say which a typically would be efficient chicks Chinese. You're Indian food except tra- we've now a whole new market to take away food. Because actually I can have the Mexican chicken. I would have had the restaurant on a Saturday night. And actually diversifying that business will will hopefully increase turnover after the event. Because there aren't supposed to come back whilst others will still chafed. Ease the delivery service though. I think it's amazing. It's funny I was talking to a chef yesterday and he's from. Kobe works in London. Me's him he's come down. It's be with his family and I. I told him that he shouldn't be bringing the virus from London and scolded him. But after we go pasta I did say that You know if you're a chef but he's he's just about to launch like an events company we. I did all the branding for everything. And he's kind of he was very posted because he said look if I'd launch six months ago my money upbeat dead now. But Luckily I've managed to pull as the launch and we've kept allow deposit so it was great but I was saying to him. We'll look if you look at say someone like Jamie Oliver. He built his empire. Tv shows showing people to cook and books and then it became recipes and then restaurants and now he'll still retain his wealth because he's got the books and the TV shows. I was like well the best way to publicize your business is to take your twelve mice Recipes I WANNA week for the next twelve weeks and you can put that out that but do it so people can join in so on Monday. You can tell them what you're going to be cooking and you get them the ingredients list. Then you cook it on the side. Wednesday. Maybe you interview supplier one those days and on Friday. You do acute people ask you questions if you did that. All of your recipes but ended the you'll have so much great content to promote your business but also you can build Nemo listing. Now you're making money not only by partnering with suppliers by saying. Look if you want to get will be ingredients from this supply and you click this link you get a discount. He put my name in therefore the supplies getting business by working with the chefs who are cooking meals people at home. And he's making money working with supplies and getting kickbacks and he's building his own brand which will in turn fuel business and he's doing all of this with our restaurant without any facilities and it's this thing as you said before it's your he's looking at will. I'm chef with talent people at home and struggling to work what I want to cook and supplies need people to order their food so the conjure is actually the chef because the youtube apart is with the supplies. It's mutually beneficial for everyone. I think this is the kind of thing of I came into this conversation. Completely thinking it's all about. How do I sell myself to business and that feels instinctively uncomfortable? But what you've told me is it's not about that. It's about finding the problem putting people together. I'm finding a role for yourself. Maybe Aroldis just introducing people but dinner Lead in business. And you know you're gonNA be long enough. I always use a particular Hashtag whenever I post on together stroke and I think that the so many situations where if you go out overrun you are one person. And you'll one person taking on the world you're not even if you haven't even read you don't really in the poem does as Alan Sugar. Wants to guy on the apprentice and you are. You're nothing but you're really trying to have a guy at if you can pulling your friends your contacts. Your stop collaborated and you start. Working with people knew stop building relationships. You become the pivot in new become the go-to person and therefore when anybody that needs in they'll say ask Richard to insult the League will come to you. Can filter them. You can understand whether it's something that view I but also what you will other people. So if you make yourself the most important person in the ring metaphorically speaking yeah Then effectively you will have people coaching. I need these not if you come help with it will south so it could be. I need salesperson. And you're not even a company for the sales people but you knew a company that did and thank you. For example you came to me I would think what a person in fact I would go out my way to that gives you something and this is actually weren't savvy relationship because I helped you many years ago on on purchasing car but when I was in the financial world I then came to you and said I need some help with this. You said yes that ultimately you want to. You wanted to grab a concern. Said I thought somebody I think that can help you. Said thank you in return for that. I didn't want pay in new. Then give me. You'll helping support which helps too late. May I then give you more? And it goes on and on and all because it's a to be the best advocates that are not yourself that will other people are starting to buy and if you make yourself integral into people's working lives and then you will do very well. And we all have with David Frost Dining Kumo and David Brooks setup with myself with them to other guys we set up a smooth networking group which not franchising massively across the sites west of Sydney. Arlo white a movie. It's way up towards London but I can tell you get for your fifty requests. Do you know someone that does they? Do you know someone who does that? And he's actually made himself the most important person in business across school Which gives him the opportunity. It's a new business coming from saying general creative person. You'll say yeah that's what. Why don't you join my network and I'll get you more more helping support. So he wins from by gaining business for himself but he's also feeding other people within his network his terminates. We'll have more people back to him. So if another person who's not in his network says hey what. What's good to network? I to say you need speak to David. Brought and he wins though is very true. And let's say it's kind of Building relationships doing in a way. That's helping people because I think it's I I that's always been my concern is. Is You when you always offering to help? But you getting paid and this was always like my slight hesitation. I believe is important to say. Stop you know community and be giving away what you know for free. But I'm also aware that that's a huge off an undertaking for that person to be giving away lots of free knowledge every week in the zoom group and then expecting people to pay there's no guarantee they will and yet charging them seems inappropriate as well but I love your kind of your idea of. Actually you'll you'll putting people together solving the problem by bringing people together you all building relationships in you're asking how can I help you remember as you say it's kind of like what if enough people can put enough people together and that in itself? You'll you'll sowing the seeds. So in the future people will be Have of fondness view of what you've done for them and then you could always Kula knows favors but sending going to be more receptive. If you need fiber you need help. Or You need a referral. Something and I think that's true like I said if I need something in our house broke. He's very good at helping me. And he's GONNA so well connected. It makes it like I said it's it's you would go to him because he's the one who knows everyone else. But actually you talked about earlier on email lists by creating some fantastic content. You don't need to be only networking organization to be the most important US and and it goes dying to me in a crisis. It goes back to the brand Brian Stamford School. And and you know what if you if you've made yourself the GO-TO guy for I'll give my temple if someone came to me and said that rich about now. You're really get it Saturday. I'm struggling wake me help. The first thing I do when I tell you walk for excellent opinions narrow did foyer. I'll say well let me show you how I did it. And then if you still have problems come back. Give me a shot and let me see if I can help you another way afterwards. So it's not always about the tape in the last week to reading different things about hypersonic crisis and somebody at quotes it on the Internet at what you should be doing is Codes quicker at this time. So you know they're saying actually because every day is different news tonight ten twelve weeks we find that the prime minister called Corona virus. And and yesterday he gets admitted to hospital if the news is forgotten about all the other people that got corrected. Virus is all focused on. Boris which then the question then is or what happens if the world isn't nuclear meltdown. He's GonNa push the button it so every day. Were being fed all this disaster knees in a crisis you know then uttering words such as recession depression so somebody on long lineups reading. I said what should be did of trying to close time. Quick here because you don't know what other news is going to be the next week or the week after and she. I think slightly different. I think it's not by closing. The project is about making you south more ADL over. And sometimes that's got to be on the basis of either defer payment and or a little bit of free support because the one thing I've been saying a lot of the last couple of weeks at today's actions will determine tacomas feature. Yes I think. That's a really nice point. 'cause as like say it's things we can be doing. I think sometimes that taking a bit of control fighting but control when it's a bit chaotic is really important. So now I love that sense. I think it's It's a lovely WANNA finish on. I mean so for those. So just so recap as you said. It's kind of all about get you. Wool Room is in lot. You're GONNA go Kay. So what do I want to achieve kind of this week because we can't plan young funds of the future because he's overwhelming? It might change so if we take it weekly. Nothing is really good so structure also all said forget that little bit daily daily goes take the time to make apply the tick off as one of your goals today yet but also just your parents might be open to it just all right and I think it's important not forget it. It's very hard to poke CASCA down a visual guide that Al Gore sort of circle in the middle of the board. Put your main objective in that circle. Then Joel circles around the three. You might wet five. He might even more but considering your customer journey into that point and every time you think of a scenario joy circle for outside of the main core circle and then we're I could move hosts about center at more fishing. There doesn't mean quicker but it means efficient okay and then probably as you said overall we're going to have to slot pivot what we do and I think If you do approach a client and you're looking to serve them. I think that they're not gonNA worry that you say haven't so industry that niche before because they're going to say well if you've got years of experience and a track record of success in you can help. That's going to bypass that. And then he gets back to that analogy all the local Jagan guy out. Actually you need it to sixty five percents sanitizer. So they say. I said. That's what you yourselves does not have hand sanitizer before but be able to change but don't change the whole business. Just take one part of it and just if you can adopt that to start with and then it's probably just about drawing up a list of people a businesses that need help all who all all the other thing that kind of thriving a maybe they need like say is not this a marketing it might be infrastructural partnerships with other people and vice a look coming up with solutions solve problems for those people and introduce people and put them together because as you say we go back to the Taxi delivery restaurant thing. I think the both businesses would happily share the cost of UTAH. Make that happen and then you can make this happen. They're going to show it to doing it. You're gonNA find work for your cells and then that's a case study to take to other people. Economy EXPANDS AND EXPANDS So yeah like you said before I would probably said look industries are thriving and see if you can help because they may be overwhelmed but I think actually you're looking at you know let's put people together so maybe one these overwhelm the one. That's underwhelmed so they can complement each other. And then the come with that solution and Be The one who's helping people connecting people and building relationships well-funded work for yourself indirectly. Yeah there's a guy that worked in radio. His name is Mike Breathtaking and he writes something co creative lifestyle and and it was something that I really took to halt and I read his book what he talked about that. Which was exactly what you've just some rights is if not that the price is going in with an idea. The place will fully but if the idea is strong enough creative enough innovative enough then people will buy into the idea And that will help you when trying to structure You'll business into new markets so just cutlass factor that we go back to our Taxi Western. I did is this. Two companies wants to that you can put into that that they haven't really thought so. I mean I I love all of this and I know that we've got a few chats planned if people wanna full you and see what you're up to because I think you yourself You're living listen doing it. You've set up the socratic collaboration. So I think South. You're you're a real leader in. Its fraiche when it comes to doing this stuff. What's the best way to slow you on staff today with what you're up to and say a couple of different ways? Yes you just touched August except the page up. Karenna collaboration as you can see collaborations at the house unexplained over this conversation And that's the page where business to business people to people that doesn't matter you can put up there what you want or need and also how you can help them says it will be people saying prescription collecting this place double might say what. I can help you with that. There might be a business design that a great idea but I need to design and so you can follow it through that you can follow me on facebook. It's woods. Jj as woods. Jay and I'd also which is where postal content amazing will thank you rich. I really appreciate you tell. I'm sure you'll go to go by. Helping people will do against and yes. I think the much have a great day. China enjoyed the show pressure talking. Richard Woods. I love his attitude. I love his passion and I think there was an actual tips that we could learn from and actually start implement next week or so as a ways. 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Chelsea Drop FA Cup Final, Pulisic Comes Off Injured

Chelsea Mike'd Up

47:12 min | 1 year ago

Chelsea Drop FA Cup Final, Pulisic Comes Off Injured

"Man It is never easy doing an episode of Chelsea Mike after a loss. Certainly not easy doing it after eight loss to arrive on. It's damn near impossible to do one after losses to a rival in a cup final but we will try our best to do this episode without putting the entire thing on Anthony Taylor per an email I got directly from Chelsea so I will listen to you boys over Chelsea I will not put this on Anthony Taylor instead. I'm putting the whole system on trial. Swept Bluefield Chris Wittingham. I've already been accused of being a sore loser on twitter. It's the losers lament right complaining about the officiating. I think even the neutral observer and we'll find out what the neutral observer might think of this because lucky for you we have a neutral observer here on staff so I'm very curious to hear his thoughts the officiating in this match obviously a controversial point. But let's start off with awards from the manager. Frankly in part because I want to take his lead on this and I thought he touched on a couple things that I think are are are fair but ultimately the sentiment of not being prepared to play in a cup. Final should be a sentiment that we don't overlook the main facts have been that we didn't play what enough to win a final rally and that the some that we're getting cited got for. Yeah we're we're happy because we know that was a big big challenge. I move places to go and if you turn up for fun of You. Didn't we won't. We won't have best inconsistencies problem. Many things went against us to hamstrings. Never send enough. Everyone knows that So that was a sign hanging a little bit and knows often people now best. I win the game. What happened with performance? You can't our responsibility on the pitch because we control ten minutes to go a couple of little half chunks. Chances moved the ball can good and then we decided that we wanted to make Ya. Curbs slow Afternoon Stroll play five. Aside foggy stops the plight has stop plan for the lines and we just invited. We invited in in one minute spell and the whole game changed on that. I thought Frank Lampard handled that postmatch interview about as well as you could. You couldn't ignore the officiating and we'll get to Anthony Taylor and what I personally feel is disaster. Put on by the official. But let's lead off with what Frank Lampard said. They're not being prepared for a cup. Final they certainly look prepared in the first five minutes Chris Wittingham Christian Pulisic was in a mood. He was unbelievable playing at a different speed. Real bummer with that injury. And we'll get to that in just a little bit. But what do you make of? What Frank Lampard said? We weren't prepared to play in a cup final. That was bad effort. Well prepared as you said generally gives off how you begin the game so it seemed like they were pretty well prepared to play in a cup final. I just think maybe the elements of that. He's describing is the constant intensity that is required and the constant speed with which you have to play in order to sustain what you've prepared for in a cup final and I think there are times where people describe for example. I was listening to conversations. About how epic finals are rarely. Good Games because it's just such an occasion and the winner-take-all aspect of it just weighs on the players to such a degree particularly when there are fans there so I get that but I just think they started like a house on fire. They were really getting into arsenal making very difficult for them to play. As you mentioned politic gets that incredible goal they had figured out a tactical way to play through the middle and a left so many arsenal defenders players to mark but I thought Arsenal adjusted and also use that first. Hydration break to get their tactics sorted and from there the game kind of got away from them so I think what lampard generally talks about when Chelsea don't play well is the speed with which they play and I think when you saw Chelsea struggling to play out from the back and just kind of playing inside and going nowhere. His solution is always well. If you were just more intense if you played the ball quicker than we would have been able to get into the areas that we like and I think that's what he saw as a bit of a Languid performance after about the first twenty minutes. They just never really came to turn around. Yeah he articulated that in his words you know me I have. Ptsd from the sideways passing of salary ball and he was lamenting the fact that they were just passing the ball around and not really doing anything with it. But let's talk about that first goal. It was a three man game that led to that goal but it was essentially carried by Christian Pulisic. I mean rude takes the ball down and plays it back when he probably should turn and go he has the room for it. And then just a world-class display of speed and poise and Balance Christian. Pulisic advances the play. Mesa amount kind of gets lucky with this cross inside the box. It takes a deflection off. An Arsenal player ball finds its way to Christian Pulisic feed four feet away from goal. He's not GonNa miss that bangs away every time and it looks like Chelsea are often running and this might actually be an ugly affair for Arsenal however they play the ball out the back over the top. Look I know. Everyone's going to highlight the lack of pace from Aspen. Quetta to happen all the time but the centerback should help out a little bit more guesses wrong and a great job by Obama who brilliant this match. Yeah if I'm Chelsea van which I am. The foul happens outside the box. The initial contact happens outside the box but Obama Yang. Does well the sell it inside the box. That's pen every time. Unfortunately and I don't want to be a total loser because I'm going to do my fair. Share of complaining about the officiating. I think this one's spare and that's just a world class striker. Doing what world class striker should do seize on mistakes made by the back line. Put It away. We're one one. And then as gets injured and Frank Lampard's limited options become even more limited arsenal. Play the best stretch of the entire match that twenty minutes after they scored look like they were a totally different class. However they don't score Chelsea survived that this was a game that was begging for Anglo. Contact my personal opinion Chris Wittingham. I really felt like he could have really helped. Chelsea here in Franklin part said he would have gone in goal. Oh Kante but he was on the bench essentially to be named to the team sheet Chris because if he were fit enough to play he would have. Yeah that was definitely a decoy move. It was. We're going to try and talk about his fitness during the week. We're send pictures of him in training session so that arsenal have to prepare for go content but it seems pretty clear. In retrospect he was not fit enough to play and I agree that he would have changed the game. A little bit the the one thing though that you can't really avoid the very advantageous position that Obama can play down that left hand side because Chelsea were playing pretty high there pressing. Pretty High Reese James Back Five. He's part of a midfield four. That's pushing forward to try and cause problems. There's a gap between him and asked me the Quetta that basically leaves a bum Yang isolated. And so on that first goal as you mentioned I thought Craig Burley on the ESPN broadcasted really. Good job of highlighting. This where normally Zuma would be there to help cover but Alexandra luck is that is playing a bit further back and Zuma kind comes to him and so there's really nobody helped to cover one V. One Obama young against US quit. Hit the right ball over. The top above young is going to win that battle but as you said I just think that in general after they give up the goal they were hanging on but they hung on. They got to have time and if they were able to really change the game with the sub which would be able to. If Christian PULISIC was fit enough to play ninety minutes he could have changed the game. It just didn't seem like they had that answer to ultimately solve the problems that arsenal reposing. We've moved the time line up to time. But let's backtrack just a little bit because you can't tell the story of the second half without saying some of the things that happened in the first half the Kovacic jock instance where Kovacic ends up with a yellow. If this were an isolated incident I'd say okay Anthony Taylor that's fine. Jacques does a great job of selling it to me. It's not a yellow on Kovic and this I think ultimately changes the game. But if I look at that and I say this is the only bad call in the match. I'm fine with it. I could see how Jacques cells that overplays the ball just a little bit Hasa compensate. I think actually makes the worst contact of the two but I'm not going to seize on that but unless file that away for later because that ultimately plays a big hand in this result and also not available here. I felt like he could have helped immensely but the break combs and Chelsea seem to be responding to that halftime break because Pulisic once again looks like he is in a mood. Blasting pass the arsenal defenders and in about four steps before he actually gets a shot off. He feels at Hammy go. He's still takes a shot heroically enough if his hamstring is healthy. There's probably good chance ball goes in Chris Wittingham and once again or us to examine the Christian Pulisic injury problems. If you're new to the gathering folks this is a reoccurring thing with Christian. Now he did recently have a knock. That kept him out of that. Fa Cup semifinal and then obviously came in as a sub in chains Liverpool game and almost clinched atop slap or Chelsea in that match unbelievable form. He's shown what he can do with an extended run of good health like he has in this resort arguably for me the player of the premier league since project restart began but once again and injury to Christian Pulisic reoccurring. Sorry Chris I just pulled up his transfer mark page to kind of look through his injury history. And there's like eight or nine instances at during his time with Dortmund with Chelsea where they list. At least he's missed some portion of time whether it's one game or as many as eleven earlier in the season with injuries so he seems to have just a constant run of dealing with injuries. And you never really WANNA press him with too many games for playing ninety minutes because then that leaves him vulnerable to to injury and you just never know if for example. This injury is connected to this past injury that kept him out for a little bit. But there's connected to playing him eight or nine straight games for ninety minutes or whether it's connected to the injury that he sustained back in December that kept him out for more than two months so you just don't know and I think you are left with the doubt about well if this is going to be like a talismanic figure where we spent a lot of project restart talking about him as a potential replacement to at an hazard and that requires I mean. Ed has one of his greatest abilities that US out there. Every week I mean he is among the most consistently available top stars in the world except for this year with Real Madrid but politic kind of needs to get there i. I always feel bad criticizing players for being hurt. Because they can't help it. When you're handy goes you're hanging goes like there's there's nothing you can do about that and as you said. It was a fairly heroic if he scores a goal after pulling his hamstring. It's one of the greatest. Fa Cup final goals of all time. But I don't know I always feel weird talking about injuries because I just don't know how much to put on anybody to assign blame to anyone. Really where American? And I don't want to ignore that goal five minutes in. I'm sure the novelty will wear off at some point because he's doing this with a fair amount of regularity but it's so cool watching American score within the first five minutes of an FA Cup final. It's just totally foreign to us as supporters of the men's national team beyond cool and he was the biggest threat or so fans. We're I mean I saw some classless displays that's awesome re- relatively classy displays as well for all supporters. But if you're rooting for your team to win Christian Pulisic coming off at that point in the game especially during that threat where the injury actually plays in the result of what happens once the ball comes off the boot a stroke of luck for Arsenal and having that player come off. Now you have no William now you have no Pulisic now. You have no Quetta whose injury in that first half affects Franklin options again. Yes I will. Readily admit Chelsea were not good enough to win a cup. But I don't think they had the chance to be good enough because of the limited options and also one of the things in that first half that we need to discuss Pulisic and mountain particular couldn't buy afoul fact. Chelsea zero calls were fouled when Chelsea had the ball in first half again if these are isolated incidents if the game evens out in the second half you can say that's just the flow of the game but things start jumping off the screen when you watch that first half. The Chelsea group chats are starting to get annoyed with Anthony Taylor who finds himself officiating an FA Cup three years after he officiates Fa Cup where he sends off. Victor Moses and the officiating wasn't a big controversy in that match in all fairness anthony. Taylor I remember that match for Diego. Causes Bravery in leveling the game after Chelsea are down and then Ramsey's eventual winner in the numbers game catches up to Chelsea. This match was totally different. This was a horror show in my opinion from Anthony. Taylor I don't WanNa get on guy too much. Martin Tyler said the. Fa Cup is usually for once in a lifetime. Opportunity for a new official many thinkin. Anthony Taylor probably sure enough vitiated this game especially considering the fact that he officiated one three years ago. I don't know what got into Anthony Taylor but the first half problems carry over to the second half and keep in mind coaches carrying that yellow. Now PULISIC is out. Pedro comes on and Patriot. Looked a little frisky. When he first came on I know ultimately he also goes off with injury which is incredible but Chelsea. Aren't this big goal scoring threat anymore. Without having Pulisic their giroud obviously becomes a lesser player without Pulisic there. Because you lose at two men game you probably have turn to Tammy. That's good decision by Frank Lampard and Tammy causes problems in fact he forces. Martinez come so far out of the box. That many are screaming handball. Martin Tyler says via reviews this. I don't think has ever done anything that quickly. And no replays ever shown on the World Feed. And now we have a bunch. Photoshop said. I don't know what to believe. I think this should have been looked at Chris. Okay so I understand that. It should have been looked at the one thing though about. We are having to intervene because remember the scenarios with which VR can intervene to be the award of a penalty the award of Red Card or basically the only that apply there so the would have to look at it determined that Martinez such as outside the area and then say to the referee. This is a red card offence when normally that's just a free kick or a yellow. You very rarely see a goalkeeper kit a red card for handling the ball outside the area. Tom Abraham is in behind and if Martinez Mishandles S to play it and Tammy gets the ball and goes in and scores. Then that is a scoring opportunity. So maybe you can make the argument that it was a red card offence but to me. That's more of A. The assistant referee has to see that because the referees never in a position to be able to judge depth perception. The assistant is the one who has to be positioned there to say he touches broadside the area that should be a free kick in a yellow card. But I don't know this scenario which is by the way similar to what's going to happen we're GONNA get to the Kovacic yellow where second yellows are not reviewable by by VR. It's kind of the limitations of the system that prevent this from really being properly refereed. Yeah you have a limited official in this magic seems and he's not being aided by the system that was put in place to aid officials here just because there's cookie language. I feel like we can iron this out but this one instance in particular the Martinez Handball. I don't know I'm talking to you right now. And I have no idea would've loved a look at it with some sort of goal line technology. The let me know because camera angles can be deceptive. I will say with certainty that is a goal scoring opportunity regardless of intention if he does indeed handle that outside the box I understand. Martine is trying to handle that ball in the box that was his intention when he came out but if the result is he handles ball outside the box. That's a man off and we're playing ten ten and all of a sudden. The numbers game works out for Chelsea again. Why are we playing ten ten because of the second yellow in agree? Gis Offense in my opinion. Frank Lampard said. That's never a second yellow. I think football in one voice outside of one part of London said that is never a second yellow fact. Kovacic does have his boot. On top of Jacques was Chaka yet Jaakko once again Jacka just plays fifty fifty scenarios. Well enough to play Anthony Taylor and Kovic is sent off a huge disappointment and the funny thing. Is that when you're watching the game? It seems as though yes. The foul was given to arsenal which by the way I thought. Stuart Robinson on the commentary a good argument that should have been a foul against Arsenal but the fouls given four arsenal. And Anthony Taylor hands out a yellow card for dissent because there are players who arsenal rushing. Say That should be a second yellow and Kovic but I think ultimately these decisions come down to how Granite Jacka sold them. The first one I think is subject to an argument. I hearing Stuart Robson on the commentary. He was saying that it should have been a yellow on jacket who got the worst of that and maybe coach goes over the ball but that jackass had his own role to play in that as well and then I saw Arlo white on twitter. Saying that maybe that first one should have been a read on. Kovic for how much he goes over the ball. So there's there's that fast spectrum but I don't think anyone you said it's making argument on behalf of that second yellow being a yellow or even a foul like it is at worst foul that Greenwich as you said has sold and this is where we just talked about the needless complications Var if there is a red card incident they should be able to look at it. It has to be this way because it's too big of a decision the game and if the says to Anthony Taylor go look at that again. That goes over Kovic. It's barely even a foul. Even if you still think it's a foul it should never be a second yellow. That is what the system is. Therefore to prevent mistakes from the referees determining the outcomes of games and ultimately is white VR. And I think while it might not have determine the outcome of the game because you've talked about the matter which Arsenal Chelsea. I still think it is much harder to do. So at Eleven v Ten than it is at Eleven v. Eleven and I just think it's too consequential with decision to not look at again again. It's never a second yellow cook. There's a reason why I wanted to discuss these. Maybe fifty fifty five forty five situations with respect Anthony Taylor because these are some tougher decisions and depending on your angle and as you said. Jackie did an amazing job in selling these and that ball just outside the box weather. Martinez handles it. This is very difficult. I have to extend level of credit to the officials. They have very difficult job. And I don't WanNa put it all on Anthony Taylor but let's get to the clear certain situations that they got this wrong because I don't think that's a second yellow regardless of how wall DACA sells it in part. This probably has more to do with that fifty fifty call in the first half which is why I wanted to highlight that. Let's talk about the second goal for Arsenal because to me. This is the most impactful bad call in a sea of bad calls. Chris Wittingham because Christianson wins this ball from bellary he wins and then Belarusian completely takes him out of the play by sliding in and doing the same thing they got copen a yellow in the first half only worse because he wipes out Christianson from the play on able to recover because he just got a knee in the small of his back. That is a foul any way. You slice it. And while Obama Gang was absolutely brilliant playing cards Zuma masterfully. That shouldn't have been a goal. Regardless of how Brilliant Obama Yang was in it because Christianson was totally wiped out by clear an obvious foul Chris. Why wasn't this looked at well? I just think it's because it's a collision right because Christianson goes pretty strongly in as you said. He does win the ball. But I just think once a collision happens. I just kind of wonder if the referee stops looking at his though an infringement to really happen on either side of it once Christians. It wins the ball. That incident is over. But I agree with you. I think when you have Bella and going through him. That's a foul. He's gone over. He's he's missed. If it was the opposite situation and Christianson has the ball bellary misses it and catches Christianson. That's if al because Beller has the ball and misses the ball and catches the player makes it no less a foul with you but I wonder if in those moments collision has happened once. Christianson has slid in one the tackle that we're onto the next thing and we're not thinking about well. There is a collision afterwards. And it was mayhem but I agree with you. I thought it was a foul and because of the way that you can see once I think it was pepe. It picks up the ball in the right hand side. Chelsea's defence is collapsed. Right you can tell that something was going to come out of the situation. Just because they looked number short whether it's the midfield being late to track back or just because Christianson is out of the play they looked number short and Obama young is able to take advantage in chip past Caballero for the winning goal. Obama a brilliant player. And I don't like my chances regardless of the defender incurred Zuma's had some nice moments this season. I think he's been quite good after the restart but Obama got to win that almost every time plays it correctly. Everyone who's watching the game thinking about Tran code onto his right and Kirwan in the bottom corner and then he turns. Let's as what's HE GONNA do? We don't even know if he has a left footed finishing them and then he goes for the chip. And it's like. Oh my God. What a glorious finished. But I thought Zuma played that correctly given the circumstances. Yeah it's a testament to how great Obama Yang is and I could probably already here my ears. Everyone's screaming might. They did look at it. You're right they did look at it because it was a foul that led to a goal and they got it wrong doubly so because Vr does look at that foul from Bella Ren and says it's not a foul from Belarus. Not only. Is it a foul. It's a card. It's ridiculous this is the worst call in the match and it's going to get overlooked and look. History is not going to remember the details. Although I think Anthony Taylor might actually bookmark in this one. Were neutrals remember the details of an FA Cup final because you're always going to remember the pandemic FA Cup final? It's going to stick out. It is a place in time and this is part of the narrative. This is going to be part of the discussion in ways that other instances of someone being sent off aren't Eddie ever members Victor Moses when we go into a sports more talk about the FA Cup the only idiot that that concentrates on that look. I'm going to use it in my banter back that okay. Original Kmby Chelsea on seventy eight cup final. I'll have that but I I think. Overall the officiating was just so grievous and we we haven't even gotten into all the instances when Chelsea have the ball in a threatening position get fouled off the ball and Anthony. Taylor looks around like nothing happened especially the one in the closing moments of that game where Pedro before he dislocates. His shoulder is outside the box. How do you not have an opportunity? How do you not give a ten man side considering the match that they've just had considering all the other tags that you of nuked with your no calls? How do you not give them that ball outside the box that one was one of the worst calls in this match? There are so many to choose from in this match. Chris and I'm sorry I know it's a losers lament but it played a factor in this arsenal. Were were the better team. I will readily admit that they had the best stretch in that match. And what we've seen better teams losing cup finals. This was a Chelsea team. That man they really deserve this. I thought just because of the season long narrative they didn't deserve it. If we're just looking at the match on its merits because our somewhere the better side of the two but all season long Chelsea been dealing with these injuries been dealing with all sorts of obstacles. It would have been so great if they got a trophy. I want that trophy. A lot of how identify myself as a Chelsea Fan put so much stock in those trophies and now also have a trophy one of three teams in the primly that get to say they want a trophy. I understand them enjoying this. They're acting like they haven't been there before for a team. That's one more cubs than ever for God's Sakes. They broke the damn thing. Chris Oh bob young with the GOP lift not exactly the most graceful from Pierre which is funny because they were wearing. Everyone was wearing shorts at said fourteen. Because that's number of cups when when they first put on. Is this a campaign to try and get? Oh Bob Young to stay. Or what are they celebrating? I've been talking to one level headed arsenal fan. That works within Miami Chris Allen Shadow to who runs the Arsenal supporters group. Great Supporters Group. Down here in Miami for being Arsenal fans and his concern is that this might actually be worse for Arsenal in the long run because Obama. Being as brilliant as he is. He's a certain age. Where you start mapping out he can only. There's only downward trajectory for this player. Maybe he remains flat for another player because he can't go much better but you have to consider his age and he may have just force arsenal to have to pay him and considering their ownership questions in which many arsenal supporters have complained for years. That Stan Kroenke doesn't care. I don't really think you can replace an Obama Yang. You might have to give him this extension because they're certainly not going to go out in the open market and compete for the likes of Tim. Verners Chris and they're not going to get a huge transfer fee for Obama young with one year left on his contract. Maybe like an Inter Milan who just sort of spilling money everywhere would would pay a decent amount but one year left player at thirty two years old and the thing is is that they've already got an albatross contract and visit Ozil he's in Turkey for the FA Cup final. He's not even in English and Turkey and he's just not prefer right now by Mikhailov data and he's got like three hundred and fifty thousand pounds a week still to earn for another season. So do you want to pay Obam young and in three years time be wondering? Why do we give out this another massive contract? There's a report as you mentioned that Chelsea wanted to go for that. Obama wanted to Chelsea in January but were reportedly asking to be the highest paid Chelsea player of all time so we know that this contract is not going to come cheap to arsenal if and when he signs it but as you said he's took it of a player like he is such a good player and if decide to sell them he's going to impact title rates somewhere. You have to think somebody who's interested in winning a title in some countries GonNa want prayer. Emmerick Obama young because he is just so good. I want to sing the praises of their manager. Because I am Fan of our Tata's and he might also be the type of manager. That convinces ownership look. We don't need to make changes second half the season after we hired our data. We're actually in European position with this manager. We have big wins over overmanned city. We have a big wins over Liverpool. We have a cup final victory over London rivals in Chelsea. We like our chances with this squad and with this manager. So there's certainly a case to be had but I do think given how arsenal operates not having faith in this ownership group to get it right I think is the right call and this might actually come back to burn them in the long run. I do think arsenal are going to be tricky to play against next season because their manager has earned my respect. I know there is a very clear top or in everybody's mind. Don't do that every primarily go in with a certain top four and things shake out differently. Football is at Berry Berry funny game but Arsenal can compete with this manager. They bring back Obama and he stays level with his performance. I still think they need signing. Maybe lifting this. Fa Cup has been a euphoric moment. That might signal. A time of transition in which arsenal can get back to their old place. Just kinda doubt it a little bit. I much rather be Chelsea next season as uneven question for me coming up next. There is still a match this season. We're GONNA talk about this March of the gallows against Bayern Munich. A little bit more about Christian Pulisic injury given what we know. It's right to maybe assume this might affect next season a little bit. We'll talk about Chelsea's options transfer. Twitter rumor is we'll get into that a little bit as we close out this depressing depressing episode of Mike. I would really really love to do one of these after we win a trophy because Oh am I set the inaugural eleven all right more? Chelsea Mike Dowse after this. The latest Chelsea news straight to your phone download the fit Santa App the official Chelsea at the up you heard from there the only official Chelsea App all the sound that we play here on Chelsea Mike Dub is courtesy of the fist. Stand up do us a favor. Leave us a quick review right now. If you're enjoying what you're listening to just say very quickly pod good. Cmu Awesome something real quick and short. Let's a manipulate this apple podcasts algorithm and get us because now we're a pod that sort of perennially in the top two hundred after every episode. We certainly appreciate your support. We've seen the PODCAST grow. I do a lot of digital audio properties. The growth week to week of this podcast is tangible. I feel it in your feedback. I always appreciate that. I know I speak for Chris. Wittingham on this front absolutely and it's incredible to me. How every new thing? I was wondering we've done a lot post restart but when Chelsea secured top floor. That's like our biggest download day. Ever Wow okay like each new thing each and that's why I'm so excited for next season because we expect us to continue. We expected to continue. And we expect big name guests from the club and from all the football even turn this pandemic. We became Concha Cap Mike. Deb We spoke to Gregg Berhalter so many great names weekend and week out and I say that it episode that features no guest but as a reaction episode folks. So let's re act. The big news coming from this match was not just the result but the injury to Christian Pulisic who is Chelsea's most threatening player at the moment now. That is most certainly up. For Debate. With the incoming signings of Verner impossibly habits. We've gotten into habits Ad Nauseam but let's say Christian Pulisic and we don't know the severity. We we know it hurt him enough to not put pressure on it and given his recent injury history. You have to be careful with this injury and take all the necessary time especially with the reinforcements coming verners versatile he can play on that left wing and you can play as Asia root up top or tame Abraham depending on who plays better team. Oh because I think team was the talent that sort of dictates the move that you do up top personally. I think you can combine with some nice up with Libya but as we notice the pace for Malaysia rude. Because that's where I think team over in a really excels someone doing the fast workup top and then when you least expect it him coming from underneath and play in that ball. We'll see it's an interesting. It's a good problem to have if you're Franklin part but he doesn't have to team verner at Stryker. Which was the expectation with Christian? Pulisic out on that left wing and you spend money on them. The expectation is he's to be the right winger and we don't know what happened. So William who may have done that blue shirt for the last time we still don't know but you have options and you have cal Hudson out there getting healthier as you saw. I think there were some good moments. Post resort where we saw something a little closer to the callum Hudson and that we were used to everything but the finish forum I think once he puts one in the back of the net to the moon with callum Hudson door but now I think you approach the start of this season understanding that. There's Champions League now added fixtures the fact that you have versatile signings coming in you hold Christian Pulisic out as long as necessary agreed. And that's why you WanNa have strengthened death. Squads he's WanNa really rely on a single player. I just do kind of wonder maybe playing Tim O. Verner slightly out of position. Now he has played as a winger before and can even win. From a starting position drift out wide and try make runs and behind. I was just really excited about the proposition of politic verner. Nca goal being on the same frontline together and with that hamstring. It's one of those injuries. Mike Wear. Maybe you really treated carefully. Because it's a flare up injury. Where if you don't let it heal properly. It can be a problem again and given political history. Want to say what's normal timeline. Add two weeks because we want to be absolutely certain that this hamstring is not a problem over the course of the year. You have six weeks in between seasons. Hopefully that is enough where maybe on that opening day on September twelfth. Whoever it is that they played at the start of next season. They'll be ready to go but we've seen the international schedule. The United States will begin World Cup qualifying fairly soon. They'll have nations league to play. I think they've got play World Cup qualifiers and a Gold Cup next summer. So we're basically playing all the way through to World Cup. Twenty twenty two. You want to start him off fresh because you know that they're going to be problems along the way so from an American point of view. I hope they're very conservative with bringing him back from this injury. Yeah I'm putting that awkward position now club or country and I think I don't want Christian Pulisic playing for the USA men's national team for a little bit and they've had a pretty good working relationship and been careful with Christian. I think given his duties with Chelsea football club remember Christian Pulisic didn't have any time off last summer. His biggest break was really this pandemic because that break was going to end up being four times longer than the break. We're going to have in between seasons here. There is still a match to play. Maybe more because Chelsea can march into into Munich and come out with a four nil victory and advance in the Champions League but Chris and this is funny if you thought Chelsea had limited options in this FA Cup Lionel. I implore you to go over to the UEFA champions like roster sheet and see who is serving suspensions for this if you were hoping to take a ragtag group and seed the Georgina statement game. I know it's been a long time but I'm here to remind you he is suspended. As is Marcus Alonzo and unless there is some sort of new bylaw with UEFA. You can't add to this Rosser because if I'm Frank Lampard I just sort of punt and just take an academy team over there considering how the season ended with all the injuries but he can't because there is a team sheet you have to admit and you can only pick players from this Rosser. Chris Yeah you have to submit a squad before the season and only players there on the squad can participate in the Champions League but I still think whatever rotation you can do because look one of the players who didn't mention that was out for this final was loftus cheek lampard mentioned in the build up. You know lots of all of a sudden unavailable. You basically got a field the squad that you can. I think you definitely try and start. Tammy you definitely try and start callum Hudson annoying because Williams giving you a bunch politic's giving you a bunch but without Georgina and contact because you have to assume if he didn't play in this game that he's probably not going to risk it for this Champions League match you probably play a midfield of what Kovachevich and bras partly like. Maybe maybe you bring Mason Mount further back and really go. Hi Pressing. You definitely start. Emerson down the left hand side. But how long has it been since you seen? Emerson Start and play a regular amount of minutes. This is a mountain to climb in this champions Lee Round. Sixteen match your already know Byron already comes into it is probably the tournament favourite going forward just as how well they played since they changed manager. And how well? They played post restart. They've had a month off. So maybe you're I had been imagining since Christian. Pulisic has played this. Well that Christian Pulisic can pull off some first-half hat-trick and all of a sudden it's three three heading into a second half against Bahrain. Munich your your level and away goals one away goal and all of a sudden Byron unique would need to like I. I had been spending a month and it was really the politic injury that I it's an incredibly stupid of me but it wasn't politic got hurt and I realize he's not gonNA play in this game that I realized. Hey there's probably not really a chance for Chelsea to do this. It may sound ridiculous. Given that they dropped the first leg. Three zero at home to Stanford Bridge but considering Christians Form. I was already looking ahead. Oh Yeah we got this one at Bar Munich in the bag. But now I'm hoping George McCarron to come in and really steal the show at this is where you can catch by Munich. They're fat and off vacation Chris and now they know that they don't have to play for Christian Pulisic stroll out there onto that pitch and realize we got this in the bag and that's where four zero starts and then it ends in Portugal lifting old big. Chris I honestly I've I've not even figured out. Who Would Chelsea play if they won? I honestly haven't even studied that part of the bracket just because I mean it's already such a you're just thinking about. Do you know who Chelsea would play if they won. Because I don't man they're not GONNA win and they're not GonNa win not GonNa win. Look I worked for the Chelsea podcasts. I shouldn't be saying. That's but in all likelihood. They are not catching this dub overcoming a three zero gold difference in the second leg. I love the funny back and forth that we had in a group chat. They will play the winner of Napoli in Barcelona by the way. Because I'm like wow. The table is set George mceachran who is listed on this Rosser. She'd I'm like I'm not even certain he can be called up for this match and I think he replied. Don't you mean Josh mceachran? I thought that two younger brother here. And he's on he's on the squad list. So George Lace up boots tight. We need you to replace the best American soccer player ever by the way. Josh McCowan formerly a Brentford. Josh mccown. I had no idea but yeah he was. One of those wounded can say came through at Chelsea. They didn't quite pan out but I guess his younger brother. Josh is here to assume the mantle younger brother joins Georgia. Excuse me. I'm I'm telling you get used to the name. Because after he wins in Munich for us and the ninety third minute you're going to be hearing a lot from the kid I'm happy you mentioned Bradford because there is a match that is set to take place at Wembley Stadium. Hopefully they keep Anthony. Taylor the hell away from one say for the foreseeable future and he doesn't have to have any say in what goes down in the world's richest match that's right a west London Darby in Wimbley Brentford vs Fulham for the last available slot in the Premier League. We know the teams that are going down. We know teams are going up West Brom Wa Wa and leads which is you know. Banter for days. A west London rival is coming up in the Premier League Chelsea obviously in west London their historic rival is Fulham. Brentford the bees not big fans of Chelsea. Either they have a really good roster over there at Brentford Fulham. You know him from the Premier League for me. I'm actually pulling for Fulham Chelsea Fan but I think craven cottage is such a beautiful venue that belongs in the Premier League. My mornings are so much better for these craven cottage matches even though Brentford. Probably the more exciting side super excited for this playoff final. Brentford were so good in that. Second leg against Swansea. That really got me excited about them being primarily because they lost two games at the very end they lost the first leg to swansea. And you're thinking man is is Brentwood really all. They've been cracked up to be but they've got a new stadium to open next season and as you said as long as it's in London some proximity like I just think of it. Like where can I go? Where like what are the other stadiums? I haven't been to but Brandon and Fulham is going to be great and and I hope that that lives up to the title world's most expensive game world's richest game because sometimes it can be a bit of a damp squib all of a sudden. It's nil nil and both teams are exhausted and the pressure of the game gets to be too much. But I'm really excited. Whichever one of these teams comes up. Yeah I'm with you. Brentford have an exciting side. In an ideal scenario Brian for coming in with those players in the primarily actually have a legitimate shot at saying up but I think they're going to have to sell their best player Panorama who is magnificent. Sometimes what the ball is feet and has been the source of many rumors out there. I know his brothers had fun with him on social media the screen caps. I don't think he's in the cards for Chelsea. But he's a name that has been out there in transfer twitter. I think Fulham do this and when they come up. Maybe they've learned from the previous mistakes because they brought in a whole new squad and it really affected their actual overall play and that was one of the more disastrous promoted seasons. We've ever seen unexpectedly so because that's a team with resources. Mitch is an unbelievable striker. Know he's going to stay with the team. I Really WanNa see this club in that. Venue back in the Premier League. So I'm excited for this match. Let's talk about some other transfer business that is going down between Bournemouth relegated side and Manchester City wise. This of interest because Nathan K is on the move now when Chelsea the transfer ban lifted in the win a window. There was still some time for them to do some business even though considering how difficult it is to pull off. Transfer wasn't realistic. Many people were saying okay might be on his way to Chelsea. Because that's a simple bit of business. You have the buy back option. You bring them into the squad. You've made your winter signing. And he can help. He's not a great defender for that being his position but he's a really good distributor of the ball is a threat in the attack. This is good Dutch player. Chris but I understand why pep Guardiola wants him. He fits that system perfectly is what Chelsea need probably not and this is not the sort of situation make signing the keep them away from another team right and the forty million price tag. I think is just prohibitive enough where I think Chelsea would probably want a defender better than Nathan for forty million but I don't even think that he's Akis really going to be a starter because he's really a left back slash leftback and I think mets it would probably WanNa have a player better than him they certainly do in the port left-center back and at left back. You probably want to play with a bit more of an attacking pro s to play for. Pep Guardiola does but they just needed centrebacks because they went into the season having lost Minson company and then midseason losing LaPorte to injury. They're basically playing most of the season with ultimately Fernandina. Oh and Johnstone's which is just not good enough and why you saw them lose nine times during the season so they just needed depth at that position and it's probably a good signing for them. I just kinda wonder because he was a defender and a team. That was relegated. That maybe you just don't think of him as a player good enough for this level but peppers identified it and I kind of wonder what he would have been able to add to this Chelsea squad particularly from January if he was able this season to start playing a bunch of games. How much you would have helped into this season. Just in general I think he probably figures to be the best prospect that of any defender currently in the Chelsea team so I think he would have served as an upgrade. I just think that Frank Lampard probably determined that it wasn't a big enough upgrade. Yeah when you mentioned the price tag to I think at every turn. Frank Lampard has proven to us. Nathan cages simply is an in his plans. Look the season's so going on. I'm curious because you're as well read on the dealings of European soccer as anybody. I Know Chris. Approach this off season because they're not gonNA have a lot of time and during that pandemic I mean on the surface. You look at it okay. So start planning for next season during that time off. It's not as easy as it sounds. Because there's so many things that you just have to keep afloat with so many important games especially for a club like Chelsea when they were an absolute fight for their lives for that top four slot. How do you approach this? Quick Turnaround in-between seasons understanding that there is still a match to go. The question to me would be who in the premier league or wherever has really had the perception of their own team change that dramatically with. What's happened post restore? I think can even say that about Chelsea. What have we really determined? That is new because we knew that Chelsea had defensive problems prior to restart. We knew that Chelsea probably needed to add some world class in the attack. And they did. You would have to really be altered by your pre corona virus view of your team in order to really say we're going to approach the transfer market that much different. I think every team has basically kinda stayed true to form in the restart period if you look at a club like Liverpool. They're always going to probably just try. And add one or two depth signings and maybe the money is taken away for that because of the because of the pandemic Chelsea is the planning that you had. Let's say Franklin partook four months during the during this break that they had to say all right. This is what I've identified as what we need to solve in the transfer market. Has It really changed that much post restart? I don't know so I think all you can do is kind of execute that pandemic plan in the transfer market now and maybe try and take advantage of some prices that are out there and just see what comes your way would be a fly on the wall with the executive board making moves for players. Because I don't know if I have was one of these options that were available to one. Franklin part was looking towards the next season. I don't think yeah I think these are byproducts of what happened specifically to the economics of the Global Economics Post pandemic. So now you're kind of bargain hunting getting opportunities that players. You probably didn't so stack up the talent build yourself in attacking side that is going to be your core for the next hopefully a decade because of all the success they have and then plug and play defenders sell players off and act reactionary. I really don't think that there's been that much time to prepare for next season because of how unprecedented all this has been. It's going to be a hectic couple of weeks here as Chelsea look. I'm kind of happy. They don't have to play in that community. Shield Game Chris. Even though it's an exhibition anyways I just had to be a sore loser. Just wants more but do want to say the main goal was champions. League it's Nice if you can get a trophy. We've said that time and time again. Credit to Frank Lamport. I haven't done this enough. Because it is such a transitional year and yes sixty six points if you told me that Chelsea are getting six points on the Santan. That's not good enough because one it is ever good enough to finish top for this is year. It was good enough. They got the job done. They survived when it mattered. And I'm not GonNa look the point total even though I just Kinda did and hold it against him because in the matches they had to have and there were a of them they won the vast majority of those matches little slip up against West. Ham seem to have their number this year but all in all a great job. It wasn't like last year where you back in. And then he finally win against palace and nobody really wants it. All seems wanted outside of lesser. Who Thank God. They fell off Manchester United showed you. They wanted it could be curious to see. It's going to be a wild couple of weeks here. In the transfer market this is going to feel like the season within itself. We will be here with you throughout the time. I am promising you. This is our only episode of the week I don't. I don't think that we're going to do a celebratory episode. But in the event that Chelsea do somehow pull off a miracle victory in Munich. We will be here for reaction. I'm going to an island with no Internet so I will have to. Maybe do that via facetime. And we'll work it out Chris. It'll just be an episode of yelling so to me yelling coming up in a couple of days because Chelsea have won four nil at buyer Munich until we speak Jan. Should we remind the audience that this is going to? If you want to watch it in English it's on. Cbs L. Access. That there's a new place to watch these games. You just dead until we speak again. Audience Man. I really wish we had a trophy. Help the channels.

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Spurs Week with Mina, Sun Min Kimes + Chelsea through to UCL Last 16

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Spurs Week with Mina, Sun Min Kimes + Chelsea through to UCL Last 16

"To dubs and we're headed into the biggest week of the season so far if you can't get up for this one you don't have a pulse. It's spurs week here. On chelsea miked up we will celebrate the upcoming fixture with arguably chelsea's fiercest rival in all of world football right now by bringing on the enemy. Meaning dastardly mina times and her adorable pure of heart mother who is the owner of the most innocent twitter account in the world. They must follow. We will talk to me now. In some many times on this episode of chelsea mike up as well as breakdown newcastle and ren in preview the match of the season bama's swag takes in a neutral observer. Chris wittingham we have a massive spurs. Any massive giveaway. I know there's a lot of people. Come into this pod for the first time. This is the official chelsea. Podcast if you would do us a favor before. I give you what you want. I know you want a jersey. Okay just let me get this out of the way you came here for the jersey. I promise you. I will do my part now do yours. Hit subscribe give us a five star rating and review. Say hey i got a promo code office. Podcast thumbs up. I don't care. I'd like for you to listen to this entire because we got a good one it spurs week before we get the hype train rolling because this is one versus three and it just so happens to be probably the fiercest rivalry. Let's discuss champions league football. And maybe the most recent match against newcastle. And maybe just maybe you'll get your christian pulisic jersey code. Okay folks. i can feel it i can. I can feel you. They're breathing down my neck right now. But but i i we need to give you some expert analysis from the neutral observer. Chris i thought chelsea look bored in their match against newcastle a little bored in this match against ren and it seems as though chelsea have aside at has learned. We're pretty good and we can just flip the switch on and get a result your takeaways from the champions league match in france. I thought ren were pretty tough on the day. I thought that from a tactical standpoint. They set up to really try and frustrate chelsea and their build up in a way that premier league just don't think premier league sides are more okay with conceding to the threats of chelsea and don't try and kind of drown out from where it begins and i think ran were really kind of lined up in midfield five to try and suffocate chelsea's distribution a bit and think in the second half they just took control of the ball and made life difficult all credit to mason mountain for unlocking that defense and it really seemed like the ball over the top was there. Anyone founded for callum hudson and then as you mentioned that ability to summon a response right is not something that we were familiar with last season. Where you just sort of knew that someone who is going to create a chance to in the final minutes of the game z. Picking out verner. He doesn't finish but giroux. Somehow i was really impressed with how he got power on that header considering how high it is. He's gotta get a headed towards goal. As arlo white calls it the media. French forehead of asia ru delivering the handsome man delivering in the big moment. As you said of players can cause problems. The attack can come from so many different angles. And i think we've seen in these last few games how it might not always look pretty but chelsea are always gonna out at least a chance to get that result that forehead extra media because there was actually product in. This time wasn't a new castle. I know we were all wondering. Oh no it's a good look. How does he somehow look more handsome without hair product. Yet it gets back to his home. Country puts his hand in a tube of gel puts. It on is amazing. God-given lettuce guys. I mean just got going on. This is the kind of analysis you come to chelsea mic'ed up for the doors grew. Well we'll get to your promo code. But if you'll allow me. Let me just salivate over the media. Friendship head of the handsome man. Olivier giroud instinctual in the right place. You're right. I don't know how he gets that much pace behind that ball being that it was a deflection it seemed as though served up for him on a silver platter as if kimes es she delivered it himself directly to his forehead. It's kind of wild at that. Took a save actually and found. Its way there i guess. Maybe that's what i'm doing because the switch that we flipped this switch because finding joel set-piece beautiful left what that everybody talks about so much. Perfect service joe. Walsh do better. He was beating himself up on his way back down the other and gets a stoppage time winner. And you get three points. It's not hugely important for chelsea to win this group. But that's what the expectations are now at chelsea. You win your group in the champions league last year is just. Hey let's get to the knockout rounds. It's going to come down to possibly that match against via. I know that cresent are once again. Brings it and makes it tough to be at the death. Give us this massive match away to severe where to the winner. Go the spoils in that one. But we'll see what happens exactly there. Let's talk a little bit about the player you highlighted earlier on which is mesa amount and trust me. I will get you your promo code. I promise i promise that. Pass a column hudson and really all the academy products really brought it in this first half which made me feel like chelsea were bored because i don't know if they've gotten used to getting clean sheets but it kind of felt like the game was over when chelsea went up one nil just because of what we've seen recently and eduard mendi was fantastic once again despite not having clean sheet up against his former team may him out look. This guy's been polarizing. I myself have been a little harder on this player. Because a lot of attacks last died at his feet however if he's operating out of the midfield doing the hard work bringing them motor that tenacity that selflessness in the midfield that franklin part in gareth southgate at both gone on the record and said they loved in fact. We have a bit of audio here. From chelsea's manager super frank lampard on what mason mount brings to the table and now becoming a running joke here on chelsea. Mike doublets a savor. The sound i think we have a huge fan base in new england and the social media world is china's divisive how people critique look football and everyone is very easy for somebody to sit on a on the phone and mike very harsh statements with mason said before the las geiman. He i think they got something about him. The maybe it looks clean car. Think he's the That's about as edgy as mice and gets it doesn't do too. Many triple step hires inflicts over the back of his head in areas shouldn't do he makes really efficient claim sharp passes he presses as well as any mayfield proud of what we've applied alongside and doesn't hundred things within each game impressed manages. It works for. So i think he's very easy in casual because he doesn't go on instagram row of conflicts. And it's different. Football think is easy that people can break off. I certainly done side. I don't wanna. I don't wanna add fuel to the fire. Maybe him being my son. Because i've just been supposedly by because i know has a lot to improve on. And that's what takes you onto his attitude and these desire to improve. He can score more goals. He can make more assists by as quality quality football player. who's going to get. Better was senate. Denial denial i'm not. I'm not exactly sure. One thing i am sure of is frankly absolutely as a burner account has to. He has two younger player mason mount and he seems if you follow him on social media seem smart with it. He seems to know what's being said about him. He's savvy enough to give the right quotes when asked about it but this is a younger player. Sensibilities have changed. It's harder to up annoys the noises ever-present now that he's playing. What seems to be his natural position. You're seeing a larger step in the growth and development of mason mount all too often. That development seemed to flat-line year sometimes deep but now it seems as though we're on a pretty steady upward trajectory when it comes to mason mount all that is missing from this player because he does so many wonderful things that coaches. I'm sure love that a lot of players don't like doing and that's what really sets him apart. All that's missing is a little bit more consistent effort on the attacking and it's not running. Just take the time with your ball. Your make the right crisp pass. Any does callum hudson if you can bring that to the table once or twice a game then you have a primly midfielder. That is going to be locked into the first team. For several years to come guy is going to be locked into his international side in england for several years to come he does all the other things so well all the hard things if he can just tap into manager as your back. You don't have to have all the pressure on the world on your shoulders every time you have a ball at your feet to start a counter attack. Just be patient see siebel hit ball and mesa. Mount is finally starting to make some real strides in that direction. And now we got ourselves a brilliant player he can continue this upward trajectory and that work obviously is what sets him apart from youth level from all these other players but it ultimately has to come with some quality. I think the one player that you didn't mention that kind of eases. The burden is key adverts right because remember last year when he played as the number ten mason mount needed to bring quality needed to bring chance creation and goalscoring. But if is in the same lineup with mason mount that kind of lessons that burden all you want to see. And look you had a chance against newcastle. That he could have put away and he didn't wanna see as you mentioned late. Arriving runs in the box making the right pass and putting away with some quality. That's what we haven't seen so far on a regular enough basis from ancient mount which isn't to say that it is not a good delivery from a dead ball obviously scores a massive golden wolves and up. Secures your champions league status for this season. Which is why we're talking about a championship game to begin with but you tack on the beginning of the goal. Right is him winning the ball defensively then spotting run over the top playing a perfect ball into colorado and columbus unduly finishing the beginning of that. Which is the defensive work. And then the spot and then the playing of the ball. That's what you want for mason amount. That's ultimately what he can provide if he does it on a consistent basis then as you said he's away his family career which has already gotten off to a great start because he has the backing. Frank lampard only further cemented. It kind of felt last year that we needed a little bit more of goal scoring punch from him. That's not the case anymore last year. It kind of felt like we weren't going to finish top four if we didn't get double digit goal. Contributions from mason mount now brought in the likes of kim's team verner a more fit chelsea number ten. Tamie abraham misir november once again in that goalscoring form and you don't need mesa amount to feel the pressure of. I need to be a double digit goal score for this team to be successful. What they need to be successful exactly what he's given what he gave them against rent. One moment timo verner did not have it. Cooking a nightmarish first. Half i mean you can't get on team. Oh too much what you want them to score in six consecutive games. It's you're allowed. The occasional dip informative other people pick you up. It's harder to do when habits is on the bench. The likes of anglo kanteh on the bench christian pulisic not fully fit akeem. Not there you kind of. Were hoping that team could give it to you for yet another game. It didn't cook him but who was to pick you up the academy products. This is a lot different than last year last year. You're leaning on these unique to callum hudson at doi be there. When christian pulisic was out with injury. You needed him scoring goals. you needed. mesa amount being brilliant and you couldn't suffer the frustration of out. No yes shinned it now. you're fine they can play freer knowing that. That pressure isn't on them. I know it's tougher to save because there's so much class now playing time seems harder and we're seeing that with Rude chris has over to the handsome man. Yes a handsome man. We spoke about it a little bit last week in the episode when we broke down. What chelsea did over the international break he's entering towards at teary anri. All-time french leading goalscorer for the men's side. He wants more regular playing time ever since all. Those reports are leaking. Frank lampard has put olivier giroud in the game with hair gel or without libya. A route has made appearances twice now in the two available games since the international break. You and i are in agreement. There is still a roll here for a living asia. Rude alleviates rude. I think we can all sort of understand it. He wants regular matching match out appearances as he gets prepared for what seems to be his final run with the french national team in his chase in pursuit of that on record i really hope chelsea continue to reward him like franklin part is done. It almost seems as though franklin trying to prove to him. No please don't go. There's a role here for you. I will find a way. It's easier to find a way when habits is out when pulisic is out when you're given a rotational day to callum hudson join teams. I mean what an embarrassment of riches to have him on the bench with pulisic healthy though and i have a healthy. I don't really see where the minutes are for this player. Chris yeah and i think as you mentioned there is a role right particularly now that you secured your qualification right to to the next round of the champions league. I think if you're looking at a games route to start. It would be the next two in the champions against krasnodar and against avia depending on how seriously you want to approach via to win the group. But you're playing every three days right. It's basically i think like ten games until the end of december it's a bunkers number of games that you have coming up. You want to get drew involved. But if tammy abraham is playing well. And if tim o. Verner is playing. Well you can kind of split that striker position between the two of them and as you mentioned kind of the shrinking spaces around them with the number of attacking options. That you have. It's hard man just as it's hard by the way at centerback when you have tiago silva doesn't play the newcastle game. So it's ruediger who starts but would happens we christianson into maury. You got five guys for two spots. It's hard so frank. Lampard is i think. Done a really good job of management here to in the press say i really value olivier's ru but ultimately i think players like him value value based off of the amount of minutes that they receive and particularly as you've said he really wants to play for deportation on bad In the euros with the french national team. It's hard to really see that clear route to starting on a regular basis with as well as team. Oh and tammy are playing right now you came to this podcast many of you for a promo code. You want that christian. Pulisic thanksgiving giveaway. You want that jersey. And i promise you i will give you that promo code in just a little bit newcastle. Let's turn our focus to this briefly because it's a pretty boring match to watch actually low key kind of think. Maybe this result is a little bit different. Callum wilson makes an appearance. That was one opportunity there. That thank wilson puts away but thankfully you don't have to deal with the pure newcastle cut. Yeah put away the boogeyman and you. Line yourself up now third. You were top of the table briefly but now you are third headed into the biggest match of your season so far against your most fierce rival in the primarily. I know historically arguments for fulham because the west london darby and all that and arsenal probably would depending on your age. Many would say it's arsenal occupied. This very strange bit of real estate. Because they're like fulham's biggest rival but their biggest rivals. They're never the other teams biggest rival. You know what. I mean tottenham. They're always gonna hate arsenal or the intensity of ten thousand sons. They're starting to hey chelsea. Just as much and the josie marino element. I know you. And i have had back and forth on this. That's certainly added fuel to this fire but for me the biggest chelsea rival has always who seems to be at the top of the table because chelsea arose chasing that title but was hated tottenham always hated tot and in recent history. It seems as though the players don't like each other either having gone to this fixture. i'm willingness say this is presently chelsea's fierce rival managed by their former two time manager. Two time league winning manager. Joe marinho as a neutral chris winningham before we give the listening audience. A promo code. What can you tell us about this. Rivalry through your neutralize. Yeah i mean we experienced that in person you mentioned it. There is a red card in the game song. Hung men got sent off in that game. And i remember how controversial that was controversy in the aftermath of that one as well for things at the spurs fan said so we know right when the so we met the away fans. We were there with the away. Fans they rounded a corner led by police. Sources like you just feel the weight of. Oh my god. Like this is even bigger than i thought and for me. It's kind of based off of the region. Close the clubs are but josie for me has elevated this to another level his dynamic. Frank lampard you go back. Fifteen years and josie really gave frank lampard a ton of confidence and there. Is this famous story of him. In a shower and josie bissett says. You're the man and he like he's really trying to up frank lampard whereas now he's kind of throwing some shade in frank's direction about how he used back. Three on two occasions against tottenham to beat him and he basically said well. It's the kante system right. He's basically saying that was lampard's idea that was contests idea he's always gonna needles opponents and so for me the added layers of storyline plus the fact that now. This is really the first game. This season that we know is in the title race right through eight or nine games. You have a picture. With the league looks like tottenham one chelsea three. We know this is a tidal race game. And i think that only an extra bit of stakes are interview segment. And it's going to be with me and sunshine times mean. Obviously you know about her. If you're an american sports fan. She's a superstar. In american sports. Media has the best american football podcast on the planet. I think the meantime show featuring lenny lenny years. Her dog follow her on social media. If you wanna know more about lenny. But they are tottenham fans. Their entire family is south korean. And they're huge fans of sun and they followed him over the spurs and they become spurs diehards. You would think that'd be enough for me to write them off entirely. However the charm of sun mankind too much to overcome it is a must follow on twitter. The ted lasso of twitter accounts really. It's just a positive beam of light in your life. Welcome it so we'll have a nice civil conversation about this rivalry then will kick them out of here and we'll get intense in the final segment will ratchet up the banter. We'll tell you some damning stats if you're taught him the border and we'll get you hyped for the biggest match of the season so far okay. All right predictably did it towards the end of the first segment. I'm a radio pro. This is old school all right. I'm building up. Tesl tell the listening audience. One more time exactly how they win this jersey now christian pulisic posted a video at chelsea f c in usa on twitter. And he said tweet the code word that you hear on chelsea miked up and we're going to give the code right now so put it in the replies on that tweet. I imagine it'll be a lot of spamming of this tweet of this one phrase mike. Give it to them okay. It's a phrase. It's not just a single word but he'll show up as one. Yes put it in caps. God don't ever give me this power ever again folks find folks over at chelsea. This is just. I've spent eighty minutes recording exactly this. Because i'm feeling the pressure and anger from the listening audience but here it goes. I hope this works. I hope you're okay with this. And i hope christian is too but he was rocking the sick beard. He looks damn good in a beard. So here goes nothin'. I should talk like a secret agent right. The secret phrase is bearded eagle. This message on our self destruct. Or big ethan guys reply to that video with the phrase bearded eagle and. Hopefully you win this christian pulisic jersey heavily in demand here all across the world. I actually have the number ten. Yeah made a purchase myself. Yeah mid purchase. Well it's it's a highly controversial. All you got the palace kit. Don't say palace. Kid i will. I will. I won't choke the life any my hands palaces. Read this it's not. It's not one hundred percent entirely different color. It's it's totally different. It's red ish. It's pinkish sheets like man. Just get over the whole palace thing you you know how this whole thing started. We also the leaks on the twitter account. It made it look a lot better than it was. Then it comes out. And then i see a bunch of people tweeting well might have to cop this if so and so's scores and then pick a goal scorer that you knew would score. Then you cop in this jersey. Don't like this is an instant classic okay. Ten years down the line. You gotta go to a music festival. Everyone's gonna be rockin. The number ten third kit from twenty twenty load up on new twenty twenty merge. Because it's kind of a year you want to remember folks so once again promo code. Bearded eagle we talked to the family. Next get the latest chelsea news straight to your phone. Download the fit. Stand up the official chelsea. Chris wittingham. I feel like i should have address effect that chelsea formerly qualified in advanced in the uefa champions league on to the knockout rounds. Bit a formality. We kind of knew that of the last result here. We are times already shiming bird. Let me do the proper introduction. That is son mankind's if you don't know her twitter account we're gonna explain it all to you. She is the mother of mini kinds. Espn media mega sar. You can watch on. Nfl live highly questionable. She has for my money. And i'm not blowing smoke here. The best american football podcast in the country. So make sure to check it out the meantime show featuring lenny lending her these two are tottenham fans. Were obviously the official chelsea podcast. So we're going to fight each other. Not exactly two of the most pleasant human beings in the world and this is a family deal for the kinds family. Their love for tottenham hotspur stretches back a few years and for those that don't know me in her mom or korean and tottenham player of the month in the premier league is also korean and son meena. I've spoken to you privately about what son means to south korea but for the uninitiated listening in exactly. How big of mega sar is he. In this country he could probably run for president and win. Bright mom i mean. The there's nothing that koreans love more than an international superstar whose x. excelling and thriving beyond this small country and son at this point is one of the most accomplished and successful korean athletes of all time. Not just the present tense. So crans everywhere. Extraordinarily proud of him myself included. And i came to phantom through my mom and my brother who i believe really embraced the team because of him. Mom you can correct me if that's wrong that's true. I loved soccer because you in is it playing from what asia fi and alternate is women. After they had been watching saw create hearing their clermont. Chevy for years would in in then. Isaac just told me about power nam because sony stay size sample shore. I'll check it out. And i just instantly when love with not just with the player but just hold key man. Probably at the time. Dad manager Me and so. I just became a topping Seriously three years now and just just love it now some men. I'm a devoted follower of your twitter account. It's become a sneaky. Must follow for the soccer community. You've been blessed with the apparent cosign of grand wall. America's greatest soccer journalists saying. You are an absolute must follow. And while it's wholesome there are also some very die hard observations here like you were deep in the weeds. You're watching care about cup matches early on. You're watching the championship. Any soccer that is on you are passionately devoted. Whatever how did you do this. Do you just say sock soccer into a smart remote and just not. I just don't know much about even though i've been following and i've been watching and i just keeps over. Soccer players is really the long indepth in about soccer. Just i just love it. Not just beautiful game and whenever possible. Your old crock. Cariballo f n is games on tv courses championship. Deal that Just i watch and observe. The player said just smell both the chemistry and not just passing deep board. Take on goal. And just just just me. I have you have you developed a similar infectious kind of joy around the game because of your mom. I feel like it's amazing. Most recent tweet is about alex mccarthy the southampton goalkeeper. I'm like it's astounding to me. I love that. Yeah so i. My mom alluded to the fact that my brother and i played. I feel like i have a very nerdy uncouth. Image at our network. Which belies the fact that i was on our varsity soccer team in highschool but everyone acts like on this. Like you know urkel over here. I did play not obviously not at the college level. But i've always enjoyed watching but for me. I certainly don't watch as much as my mom largely because my job is to watch american football in that consume so much of my time. So it's really just about you. Know the the really big tottenham games go to the one we have one coming up and you know the world cups and that sort of thing. We were in london for this match. Last season at tottenham hotspur stadium. And i expected a lot of koreans in town with jerseys but i was blown away by the sheer number. This is a tourist destination throughout the country. It's like it's a religious experience of for many there. they are devoted but meena as you outlined. This is a massive match here. This is number one versus number three in the table. Both clubs really see that they are true title contenders a lane open. Liverpool probably isn't the same mega-power and with the injuries. Now a lot of teams think they're in it so you guys are generally pleasant family put are there is there. Bad blood between the comes family and chelsea. Well one thing that makes me happy is i. You know. I am a pool. Such a struggle with his name fan sorta certain sort of the english. Okay sarah ken. i'm thrilled with it. You know and i'm glad to not have to root against him in this in this one. I don't really chop it up with chelsea supporters. Mom my mom definitely doesn't talk trash. But i would love to your mom about your confidence level going into this. Tell us why you think tottenham. Ken should will win. This one. Joel says ryan now really concentrating on defense unloved to see that Coby got injured. So i dunno did not Davinson on or. I don't know but i think chelsea in power nam euro be interesting match and really hard. Clay did a charge the man i cannot pronounce his name. But you you just have so many alonside This sunday It'll be interesting whenever we have guests on from. You know whichever walk of life. We asked them to give us their thoughts on christian. Pulisic that i want your son. Hung men scattering report. I want like what what has been so good this season. It's nine goals in nine games in the brenner league. He's been incredible with harry kane. How is he so. I think that's all folks boy down to also chosen strategy because two thousand sixteen k did an assist much on to this year. Two thousand nine hundred forty. He also apply soon. Finally i think joseph figured you dow can can do not just to strike Attacker he can do like a. Will you still christian erickson. Beat a little bit use of. But now i absent and i think just he it all harry can do this madden drop bagging. Winnie's to go fast unical to ronin and we love to see that dynamics in lincoln up and the changes nine just love to see ourselves so it's interesting change. I must met some men. It's very difficult for me to watch. Josey marinho todd times twice a cameo on lasso though. I am eight devoted follower of joe's marino and he went to i mean it was either that or somebody went to one of the club's you just break my heart going there and i should. I really enjoy him. Losing i get a kick out of that. But when he does what he did against pep guardiola and has this defense on masterclass. I can't help but fall in love all over again because they see it's like the old the old high school wayman you lock eyes and you realize just like it was a terrible relationship and it had very low lows but man eleven was good life friends enemies. You'll do. Why hours after. Because i love the paci so much and then after he got sacked. He came by lebanon layer. And i said. Wow what's going on. And i'm sure the levy was thinking for a long time but then i just seen the laura bit jazz. A bell was so sweet he had like such a sweet way about him right. Mom like you about thought. We were still on marina which is why all not was going to ask about this. You guys enjoy the all or nothing amazon. Prime all actor chris. After i saw the whole nine episode. I knew found out. He's he's a top person. i'd just many. There's many manager staffers but he he is a lot of them. I really liked the when. I walked a half time. Paul can use into each. You know the player said specially when he asked the deadly you. Tell your dallas brother. I mean it's just just just fun. And i like the inside kind of started liking him. It's always fun at the beginning at the beginning and talking to especially near to it gets to be real fun and then somewhere along year three. The jokes are wearing thin and players. Don't respond but it's actually great to see hurricanes sort of reinvent himself to defensive end committed more to being this distributor and one is become the goal scoring store for this team. He has a legitimate shot. At player of the seas and meena josie was obviously this this transcendent figure in the world of sports over there. Is there an american football. Comp does a marina. it's funny because my mom was talking about him and his personality. I was thinking about how different he is from. Pete carroll we root for the seattle seahawks and you could not have two more different coaches pete carroll for those who are listening and don't follow american. Football is this kind of like new age. Players coach exerts positively. Everything's always happy. You know whatever so arena. I think we're in a really benefited from all or nothing by the way. Because i think people did see the other side of him and also from the time off i guess i would compare him to like Trying to give someone in the nfl. Honestly i think the in college football more like a football type. Data jim harbaugh. I once sat behind jim. Harbaugh at a yankee game. And i thought the pleated pants and the glasses and the whole like nineteen fifty five was a bit of an act and then i sat behind him and he he chased every ball every loves to the games. Yeah it's it's legit and it made me reevaluate a lot. In terms of preseason rankings meena and men by the way follow son mankind's on twitter son like the sun min meena but without the kind same last name know you're going to i mean through the roof the follower account. I hope she's a twitter celebrity. Now oh yes. She's big time. She her observations pleasant light but full of knowledge. It's like if Magic johnson knew what he was talking. And thank you so much. We look forward to this this game and the banter afterwards. Unfortunately for for you. Guys feeling mildly confident and match. Once you're once you're in tottenham hotspur stadium and you win when everyone thinks you're actually going to lose. The good thing here is williams actually no longer with chelsea. He plays for arsenal. So maybe they're fans and supporters. We'll find someone. New that hates tottenham in this match. And i'm interested to see if a christian pulisic makes an appearance off the bench and that'll be interesting if christian seem so he will he There wasn't playing at time of recording it. Frank lampard said he Probably in all likelihood going to be available off the bench in this match. So it'll be interesting transit when pulisic meets hundreds on. It'll be real fine. That's how i was born and sun men. I can't thank you guys enough for taking the time to join us here. Sun-min a devoted follower of yours. Oh continue to be. I will a good worse. And if you if you guys missed the promo code. It's bearded eagle. If you want free christian pulisic jersey son and meena thank you guys so much. Worst of luck headed into sunday's matchup table on the line. Thank you guys. I mike and chris thanks for having us. Dan family for injecting me. With so much positivity. Let's get negative. Because i don't like these guys. I don't like their faces. I don't like their players. I don't like their tactics. I don't like that. The manager left us like tactics. I figured you'd love their tactics known. I don't know. I don't like their tactics now because i have one of those teams to watch chris get on board. Here's your can we get on board onboard. Chris here's here's the program that you need to get with. I am the raging hypocrite. None of my words matter. I just want my team to win. Ultimately i think everyone can get behind that notion and unjustly. I said the manager left the he was fired his last go round here. He's entitled to go to any club. Wants except for that one. Because i hate that one. That's right it's spurs week. We got a massive match the match of the year right now in the premier league i got so used to this being year in year out liverpool versus city. No longer the match of the year because sitting out very good. So it wasn't what's going on there either way we'll get. We'll cross that bridge when we get to it right now. Number one number three in the table two teams with legitimate title aspirations. This isn't a joke. We're coming up here. On december folks and liverpool isn't the dominant force that they were credit to them for surviving. The injuries actually klopp's doing a really good job this year but they have stiff competition in the likes of tottenham and of course the likes of now we will see exactly how real this is from tottenham for hurricane. This is a player that if you look at his age you're constantly surprise because you kind of feel like he's been in the primarily for ages but i think even in watching despite his age being a still surprisingly young age. It's very clearly a different sort of player. Now you're starting to witness the aging process of hurricane and so far so good for harry cane. He is doing defensive work kind of reminds me of drug but he is now starting attacks son. Son has been brilliant player of the month in the premier league. That partnership with kane kane sort of seating the floor in terms of insane goal scoring output. I don't know what percentage hurricane was responsible. For the last time tottenham felt like they had a shot at the title which was ripped away by in his art. Go back into our archives. Listen to our low white. Talk about that goal with us. It was a real treat. So eric kane ageing beautifully. I liked the player that he's becoming the distributions it really improved. Immensely from hurricane. Son is terrifying player every time we play against him. When he's not resorting to dirtbag tactics so this is a big match. There's a big match and our manager. Frank lampard super. Frank lampard has gotten the better of josie marine outside of that. How goal that. I'm sure might be replayed because this was one of three goals. Thirty three point three percent of the goals. Edward mendy has allowed eric. Lamelo who's also one of my favorites. Lo celso definitely not one of my man. They got a lot of guys on this. I'm trying my best after this guy was family. There are a lot of guys on the scene. That i do not like. Is there anyone you do. I feel like that would be the shorter list. That'd be the more noteworthy lists when you do like. No no. no there's no. There's no one on this team that i like. There's no one aren't as team. But who who do you like as a neutral who should i be here. And because i think dyer's coming off of one of his best performances now they are dealing with a bit of an injury that might give you a more diluted version of dire. What can you tell us about. The eleven you think tottenham is entering this match with pierre. Emile hoiberg is probably the player. who's you know. Been the most consistent was kind of underrated signing righteous fifteen million pounds to bring him in from south anthony. It's like why is he just going to be the number in there and they started every game so we kind of dictates the tone from midfield as you mentioned son kane. It's really the combination of the two of them because kane has of played a bit more withdrawn this year. I'll be curious. How chelsea handle this. So cain comes back the ball and he's paying passes in behind and son is almost acting as the player furthest forward trying to run off the back shoulder and i kind of wonder if they sit him down that right hand side running that channel inbetween tiago silva and benca will tech with silva's obviously so good position league. You wonder from a raw pace standpoint. Cain pick out a pass at some point in this game. That unlocks this defense. Because he's actually the one from passing sampling. That's been the biggest threat so from an attacking point of view. That's what you'll get. I'll be curious. How defensive joe's as in this game away from home against chelsea they were incredibly defensive against city but it worked they clogged every passing lane. There was nothing was the most josie performance i've ever seen in fairplay because it worked to absolute perfection city created almost nothing in that game. But they're basically playing with a defensive line of six right. I mean you rarely see that from a club like i. I wonder if they approach the game in the same way against chelsea and try and catch them on the break. I mean that's generally been there big game approach but maybe they come and they're a bit more aggressive. We haven't seen that work with chelsea this season trying to set back defensively. Maybe eight is the type manager to find success there. But i'm kind of open. He does that every time. He tries to outsmart the opposing manager. He ends up playing himself. Here in. recent. History against frank lampard. Really worried about the centre-back pairing while dyer was very good. That injury to toby out of the world at that's going to be a big injury. I'm not exactly sure. They have so much strength from their centre-back pairing this year. A lot like chelsea. They finally found the combination that worked and now with that injury. I don't know who's going to be the opposite. Centreback sue eric dire. I don't even know if we see dire. Maybe they work in unison. And if if you take one out it dilutes the entire centreback pairing so not the best way to enter this match. I think that would be the wrong approach for tottenham really try to enter this match defensive minded when you're not certain what sort of defensive hand you have. I think you've got unleash john. I think you've got to bring the fight to chelsea really tests that back line. It's looked a little flimsier here recently than it has a few cracks kipah but test many mendis. I a london. Darby see if you can tap into that. Dirtbags that josie maria supreme in that locker room. This is a london darby. Imagine there's going to be meeting. Tackles i think is to be an exciting match. I think both teams score and here is the play predictor prediction early on. Because i'm just too jazzed about this match. It's a trademark vintage to one chelsea. I think. I think there's going to be late drama. I think this is a great matchup for chelsea. You have some academy products and know what this is all about. You had them a ton of hotspur stadium last year where it felt like. Oh this is a big match josie. Marino's got all this momentum. I know it's your two for josie marino. I don't think it's title-winning year two for josie marino. I think you're gonna finish top four. I think they're going to be in this title hunt. I think they're the real deal. But i also believe that of chelsea and chelsea in recent history. And beyond that they just absolutely own tottenham at stanford bridge. I'm going to one and we'll get to your play predictor game prediction. You can tell the people how to play that once you recite from me some damning stats about this rivalry. Chris because i kind of knew chelsea on the bridge but i didn't know to which extent and it is obsolete. I cannot believe how bad this is. In recent times chelsea have won the last three primarily games against spurs but in all competitions last thirty four games at stanford bridge chelsea's record is twenty two wins. Eleven draws one loss to tottenham hotspur in the last thirty four games at stanford bridge tottenham have gone there in one once i. I'm one hundred dollars to buy that. I'm florida utter dominance with two teams that over the last five years since really chelsea's last title win they pick pretty even this. These are two teams sort of spiderman. Meaning their way just like in the top four just out of it battling jogging for top four position and for chelsea to put up that dominance over a fierce rival man. They hate chelsea. The feeling is mutual. This is one of those matches you miss fans in the stands and i know there's been some developments there. In regards to fans returning possibly to stamford bridge a couple of matches too late. It would seem because this atmosphere we went to this match at tottenham. Hotspur this is electric. When these two sides get in there the players know it they lean into it. You know josie marina from watching all or nothing. How much stock he put into this match. You know how important it is to him. He does not want to lose to his greatest player. You'll tell people in the media all the time and readily admit franklin parts of best player. I ever managed. Well now. he's managing opposite side of him and say for that care abou- game that went to. Pk's frankly imports had the better of him at nearly every turn so. This is a massive match. I will never pick against chelsea in this darby. I'm sorry. I will wear my bias. But i am at the edge of my seat waiting for the neutrals prediction here. As this is a massive match even for neutrals this is a title impacting match. Right here one of the biggest matches of the year. So if you wanna get in on making your own prediction head over to the fist. Stand up and make your prediction in the play predictor game. You're eligible for all sorts of prizes. If you nail the prediction chris. Let's see if you can nail this one. What do you have and by the way not to kind of big up my own predicting abilities. But i did last week predict chelsea to newcastle nil. So i'm writing. That's why you close your hidden exacto. You get the headlining spot writing a hot streak here. So i'm going to go. Four chelsea one tottenham one. I think this is a draw. And there's an immensely competitive game. And i have to be honest. I think by the end of it chelsea. You're going to feel pretty happy with a point. I think taught number really gonna come to the bridge and test chelsea. I think josie has a formula. That is working right now with sonnen kane as well as there are playing is going to be a really tough game for chelsea. And i think they'll be happy with the point at the end of it. Chelsea one tottenham. One disappointed in hearing. That i can't lie especially since you and i were high fiving. Don't don't forget it. We were high. Fiving at tottenham hotspur stadium. And that is when i push you to your absolute neutral observer limits because we were singing some catchy ditties over there. I listened to i. I lose myself in rooting against josie marino. There's nothing. I love more than rooting against josie marino. But you know. I'm the neutral in the pot i've got. I've got to present my my unbiased opinion. The unsettled centre-back pairing i think is where this game is loss. And it is something that chelsea can exploit and maybe the bearded eagle can make an appearance. It seems as always going to be available for this match. Look you can't start christian pulisic in this match. And i think the mindset that you can't i think you've got gotta keep starting tamie abraham until it gives you a reason not to at this point. He's been that good. Let's see how christian can ease back into this lineup. I think it can be an impact sub. So that's my prediction. i think. Bearded eagle checks into this game makes an immediate impact. Maybe doesn't score the school but his impact is felt test. Halfback line stretches at centre-back pairing in ways that maybe they weren't tested prior to him checking in so. I'm expecting a massive match. This is huge. This is huge. Emergency pod emergency pot this potz. it's it's worthy. I think it's worth even emergency pod win. Of course not no no no. We were all in on the game around. It's a massive match in the champions league. Sage i mean you can only have so much energy. I'm just but i'm an but if they win but if they win win. I'll see you sunday all right till we see you on sunday chris up the channels.

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Caught Offside: 2018-19 EPL Devundling Awards

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Caught Offside: 2018-19 EPL Devundling Awards

"Yeah. Welcome to the English Premier League bundling award ceremony now here your hopes and who Ling and. JJ davani. Yes, the beautiful off side ballroom on the Upper West side of Manhattan. It is Andrew gulling, and JJ vani. What's up brother? Can you please fix your cummerbund? It's all over the place. I'm not a cummerbund guy. You're wearing one. Right. And not I took it off before the show. You're confused. I'm suspenders and bowtie Khanna guy. Sorry, that was Mel Gibson, the Madam in the in the hall Nelson here. Why did we invite male? Oh man. One of our favorite nights of the year. This beautiful gala all the beautiful. People of the sport have come out for this tonight. I saw set bladder is here. The beautiful people of this board. He's here. Graziano pella's hair. All right. Well, could pour that man into a suit, one of our favorite night's. Yes. This is the night where we hand out all of our awards for what has been a truly awesome and fun season in the Premier League. All the awards tonight, all the people are here manager of the season matches of the season signings of the season were signings of the season, all the things that you could hope. To have handed out tonight. Now someone on Twitter suggested that we hire Ricky surveys to present, which in that case, everyone would be insulted and just leave a noble needs to realize that they can. They need to take a joke. He's fantastic. But when you get to a certain point in life, a certain monied status certain rarefied air. You don't like having people say things about you. Well, that's why we didn't hire him guys not because we couldn't have afforded him. Right. We went strictly with Bruce Vallance. He just is a pattern writer whose Google. Okay. He writes the corny things does he. All right. I think that's what he does. Billy crystal. That would have been the one for me. Well, that was never going to happen. Oh man. I'm so excited about this, the first part of the show tonight will be the divine Ling's for the twenty eighteen nineteen season. Second part of our show tonight will be the after party where we'll give you a little bit of kind of what to watch for for the weekend. You've got plenty of takes on the championship and even league one said the playoffs semifinals championship playoff semifinals have been as the children say late league one, not as less. But interesting in, in different, way, a couple of things to throw out before we actually start in with the awards for tonight. First and foremost. Now, this is this is a big one. All right. It's not set in stone just yet, but I want you all to start planning for June first Champions League final live show in Manhattan. You'll watch the game with us and. Then we will record a podcast directly afterwards. Get just get that on your calendars. And we'll when everything is set, we will announce the logo the exact location, you get to have a pint with Andrew gambling. But it looks like this is actually going to be happening, which is amazing. I can't. So you this means that you and I are actually going to watch the Champions League final between our two teams a cough side Cup in the same location together. We've never done that before today I helped my friend who's going to Madrid for the final who is a massive refund. I helped him get ticket procure ticket for that flying. And he was so excited. And I thought I'm so excited about this final. And then I thought I'm going to be watching it with you. Lick silent Abdouaye. That's fair. You know what the feeling is mutual? I'm excited about this final though. And I'm excited about us watching it with some of you guys. The only thing I'm not excited about is your refusal to make the same pledge that I made that I will not be adidi you and the fact that you can't say that back to me, like, what if so now we're going to do this show and it's going to be. And what if all these people who believe that, you know, you and I are quote unquote, friends, we are friends, what now they're all gonna come to this party, which is gonna be great. And, and you're not gonna fight. We'd have a fight in, in this bar in front of everybody. We're gonna roll out into the street in Manhattan, right? Real old style Peter Griffin and the chicken. Yeah. We're gonna end up at the top of the Empire State, Duke it out. I don't think so. I look. We're getting ahead of ourselves. But if I raise if Liverpool raise number six, I will be very magnanimous because I will be source mug. So very smug God that that podcast is going to be so uncomfortable. But it's going to be fun for everyone to be there, just it's not setting stolen. It's more in wet cement, right now, we just wanna make sure that it's on all of your radar. Yeah. 'cause watch party, Manhattan caught off side. How do you like that? As soon as details or official, you will have them. All right. Are you ready to begin? Yes, here we go. JJ will start off the first award this evening for the season. That was in the Premier League are manager of the season. Now we each have different managers for all the awards. You and I will each give out a different one of the rule. Right. And uneven even when we come to team of the season, I've decided to be very kind of not Liverpool Centric, tried to spread things actually did a complete opposite. You just went entirely taught. No, no. I was extremely Liverpool central K. All right. Manager the season. I'm gonna go first here. JJ with Ralph Hassen huddle of Southampton manager. Wouldn't even manage the team for the entire season. He is my winner. I was so close to going with pep but I went with Ralph. And here's why here's what Ryan Bertrand said of his manager, who took the reins in mid December from Mark us, Bertran said the managers come in and giving us an identity. He's given us a clear style of play and leave. No stone unturned. It's a real pleasure to go on the field like that. And not have people people questioning each other Jesus. This team was lost. Yeah. Mark you that is that is damning extremely, like damning to the point of, like, where's he going to work again? Yeah. What did even do when he was there? Yeah. And how did all those great seasons under stoke actually happened? But hasn't Huta came in he changed the style into more of an in your face press style. Got the best out of his best players, which is that's the thing. That's taken for granted. Nathan Redman scored nine goals the season. All of them after hasn't. Huta came in, in December. I'm whereas Nathan Redmond now called up to the England nations league squad for the semi final. They were eighteenth. And the table when he took over they had won just three of their last twenty two games dating back to the previous season, but after hasn't who took charge. They won. Eight they drew sex. They lost nine and they allow themselves a safe end to the season with momentum to build on for next season. They were headed for relegation, and then he came in and changed everything they won nine games this year. Eight of them were while he was in charge. So he is my manager of the season. JJ. I think that's the word. They won on never saw that coming from you, my manager of the season is Rafa Benitez watching a mid table Newcastle. United romped to a four nil. Final day away win at already relegated Fulham. Not really how many people saw the season going for either club. Amy Lawrence pointed this out in our match report in the guardian finishing the campaign and sunny mid-table. It was worth remembering UK. Began with a run of eight defeats and two draws from the first ten primarily games even worse form than the team played in the final day Fulham, Ben has pulled it all together expertly that he did a thirteen place finish, which is three off the last season is nothing to be scoffed. At though, this is a team that is playing well beyond their collective abilities Benitez draining. Absolutely every drop. He can from the squad on widely addition of record-breaking signing Miguel Marin was a timely move in January, this team that you would think need surgery in more than just one area at the start of the season. I thought it struggled to score goals, Andrew and that was going to be their big problem. Bought to keep them up the gale random swab that was genius. Masterstroke Raanan bagged eleven league goals voted club player of the year while Perez bagged twelve. Okay. So what does that twenty three goals? You only scored forty two goals in total this season Benitez has promoted from within Shaun Longstaff performance against match steady in the one nil win. That was told of indication of bringing them up from the under twenty three's and he was so good. He pretty much relegated senior pros like Chevy to the bench until he got injured saadah pros like Richie dome. It Lascelles of Bennett, Matt benefited massively from the organization and coaching Rafeh. An imagine if Mike Ashley opened those purse-strings just a little bit more what they could be if management is about managing resources and coaching. He's got to be the manager of the year, the coach of the year. He's making average Bayer's chapter players in some cases, play way beyond what they're capable of look at us. Look how cutting edge we are in different and creative to lower table games and we know everybody wants out pep pep pep pep. But, like we could have gone for Sean Dyche look at the way, this the season look what he did. That's an honorable mention. So there you go. That was manager of the season. We move now to match of the season, this will be given out over the course of the night. I will go first years will come a little bit later on in the program. JJ it lacked, the drama. Of title implications. Top four implications or even relegation implications. But if you sat down to watch wolves and LeicesteR at the mall. New on January nineteenth I gather your expectation to entertainment ratio was possibly higher than it would have been for maybe any other game this season. Here is what it sounded like. Trivial leaks, and substantial bit awaits seconds away in by Troy. With thrift. Good Lori pulse. Play school. Lucas together. Away from ten go Cup. Devas peachable. Bowl. Feed him. Joe world. Sweating. Sure. Of story out of one. Jury on the call NBC s n five second half goals impossibly poor defending Nuno, spiritus Santos sent off and find for celebrating with his players after Joshua's winning goal, the mall, new saw number of great days this season. This one may have been the most fun of all of them cracking game. Yeah. And it's funny to going back and reliving that and watching the highlights of that one again. It just goes to show the like how quickly the highs and lows can come about so west Morgan scores to make it three three. And I think the eighty six minute and then moments later on wolves winning goal who was the player who was just so far out of position so far behind the play on Jettas winner. West morgan. You can't shut off in the sport against good teams and wolves proved to be that just this year. That was really really fun game. I remember Claude pupil on the sideline after the winning goal with just his head. In his hands and like in disbelief that they had allowed that winter on Instagram, ask people to contribute. What was their favorite game that actually one really more people chose that game than anything else? Wow, would not have thought that ask them for moments. And they talked about that game. That was a fascinating watch for everyone. I wonder what the other games were up against it. That made people the drew people did I can't. Well, you know what was fun about it, too, which I wanted to mention I'm glad you brought that up. It's not just so the final was four three. Go back and watch the extended NBC highlights on YouTube. They're like eleven minutes long. I'm not even I'm not joking. It could have been like nine eight. Honestly, shot himself probably could have five or six goals this game. There was you see four three and you think, oh, keeping must have been shambles. The goalkeeping was actually really good. This game could have been as crazy as it was. It could have been even crazier. We'll get your match of the season a little bit later on in the show for now that we move on to the signing of the season, you go. I I'm not sure yet Andrew if. The club record thirty million or so. Eddie house spent on Jefferson larimer was money was spent for born with joys out in that one. However, the signing of David Brooks from Sheffield United for eleven million pounds, Starling was brilliant, talented, dentition, a superb, signing by Eddie, how bear in mind. The James Madison who is an excellent player was a stand up for Norwich last season. I'm signed by LeicesteR for twenty five million or in the region. That's dollars a young talented ball playing tacking midfielder signed from the championship for peanuts all the standout, his signing. Brooks, didn't always stand out to everyone. He was at man city as youth was affected forced out by raft of foreign signings. Unlimited playing time. He was considered too small by a couple of championship teams. I can't name them. It's too embarrassing before Sheffield. United took him on last season was his only full season of championship football, one season of championship football, thirty games, whichever United before board recognized him as a special player is performance. Against Chelsea in January was stand up performance in seven goal five assist season for the Welsh international. He's one of the best players to watch. He's one of the most exciting to watch, and I think we have the audio for his goal against Chelsea, given it straight to king, and king looks Brooks. Stays down still. Works. What a goal that was and what a performance that was from him. I think obviously people were aware of them before I came. But that game just blasted him onto a different stage in no problem becomes for born. With is, you know, can you keep them for another season? Yeah. He did flourish, there. So who knows? He may not want to leave even necessarily but no, I wouldn't think that he would that he's found somewhere. No. I mean it's the teams that turned him down in the championship. He was very upset. He was finding he thought he would be able to football after even man city, which is it's not. Yeah. That's a good shot by you. Here's mine jayjay. It's actually a name that you mentioned when you were talking about Rafa Benitez. But with Solomon Rondon now. It's a loan. Is that is this allowed? It's totally though, because it was a bit of genius, and also they're probably going to try if they can convince Mike Ashley to pay for a player over who will be over thirty by the time the season starts. Yeah. Like that. The hoops, they have to jump through to sign Rhonda Solomon Rhonda, but it's funny we're talking like this because that's kind of the point here. We're any Newcastle fans excited when they found out that their big summer move would be a loan swap for West Brom striker Solomon rundown. But let's take a look at just how valuable Ron Don turned out to be now. Like you said before eleven goals, the season, seven assists, but let's go even deeper than that. He scored two goals verse born with a two one win. One goal verse Everton a one one draw one goal verse Huddersfield a one nil win. One goal verse Waterford a one one draw one goal ver- city. A two one win one goal and one assist to know win over Huddersfield one goal and one assist in three two win over Everton one goal against born with in two to draw the margin for error with a club like Newcastle is always going to be really slim they defend. They don't score on goals. Take your chances when you get it by my tally, there JJ those results when Ron Don scored equal to eighteen points. He didn't just score a solid number of goals this season. He did it when it mattered most. I mean almost all of goals this year were in one goal wins or in draws. Take that away from Newcastle the season and they are down probably going down burn down. Yeah. So who would have ever thought that he would have turned into that for them when they made roundly criticized the move? And now that West Brom knocked coming back up, it means that they're put in the position that they're gonna have to buy this player. That's been really good for them. Yeah. Absolutely. All right. That was our signing of the season. Now, we go to the other side of the coin, the worst signing of the season Europe. I I've gone with Alexis Sanchez who was technically signed in January twenty eight teen. I don't know if we can allow we're allowing it. I mean I could go with Dennis wireless that will be a very good one as well. But I just wanna talk about Alexis scientists because he was signed in January wasn't a hundred percent fish bought, he had the whole summer off, which is not always being a common thing for him to have a lot of time off football for him to come back one goal in twenty game. Seems to be as poor as he's being for United is just incredible to the point where he was being left out a squads. He was being left on the Bank regularly for United. Six hundred forty five thousand dollars a week. This is just crazy stuff United's recruitment. He will be the statue, the white elephant of United recruiting for this period in time. And they're, they're going to have a real job. We know inter are interested. We know what we've heard today for some reason that you vent are interested pose wait. What? Yeah. These rumors from fairly reputable sources transfer rumors. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's it will be very interesting, if he does go, but how they get rid of the rest of his contract is I mean, they're going to have to probably pay him fifteen million or something more than that. I don't even know what the, the buyout is are what they can do. Our will it will probably still have to be alone, which means United was to be paying a portion of his wages. I guess the thing that's frustrating. With him is we can't tell yet if this is shot player or if it's just United system that is holding him back. You know what I mean when he came to United, whether United being bad, right? But he came to United, and he was coming off of just a relentless stretch of football where they were going deep in the in whatever competition was happening that seven years worth, or five years. He basically had no break for a number of years. So when he got the United was just. Is he just wiped or if he goes to another club, could he bounce back in just a different system? We thought he was like I don't like writing players off in their thirties. Because often comes back to bite you. But just staggering number like that they had to have them and then for for this to happen. Because don't forget. They beat Manchester City to get him. Why? Well, I mean, man city thought that there was value there to everybody mind city were not first of all mine city in which doctors and things like that are, are, are quite different than United have the money obviously to do these things, too. But put shortly it's a sign. It's, it's a sign when Manchester City won't go. You know, you're overpaying Wright city can spend whatever they warm on anyone. They won't. They wouldn't go I will say, I do have a slight problem with this because he's not assigning from the season. I mean, what if I just decided at this year's Academy Awards? We're gonna make it was gonna make Dunkirk this year's winner, but that was obsessed with one of last year's movies. Yeah. But we just wanted how about how about you. It was his first full season. That's my point. So Lucas more could have been my signing the actually wouldn't have cared if you did that wouldn't have cared the rule rules matter without the rule of law. What are we left with your your, the rule of law guy? You. I am. That's the prizes. You those prices. Really, let's see my worst signing the season. JJ. Well, I guess this tells you everything you need to know about the season. Manchester United half because you just went with Alexis Sanchez and I'm going with Fred if the goal of the transfer market is defined good value for your money than what do you say about a guy who cost fifty three million pounds started just thirteen games and score just once and assisted just once all season and remember he's not just some young prospect waiting for his turn. He's twenty six the expectation was that he'd come in right away and fit in with United and lift their midfield, but he did nothing of the sort and his market value has probably been sliced in half. And United are now struck stuck with another contract albatross. Like Sanchez, Fred Pago, all these players that you see these names. And it just it just reminds you that the game is not played on paper fit matters. System matters. Yeah. All those things matter. We could have gone to Fulham and just on the entire full midfield. Well, don't worry they'll, they'll get their there. Turn those are worse signings of the season. It just reminded to everybody is we take a brief intermission here. Feel free to send us your tweets or Instagram posts with how you agree or disagree, or whatever on all of these because this show is kind of geared towards that. Yeah. It's look at there are no rights and wrongs here. We just want your opinion that's right now during this intermission JJ. You know what I have here? You're gonna hate this trivia. No. Although you would have really hated that none of no here. I went back to our EPL preview pods before the season. Forgive me, Sean Daish. I went back to find the predictions that we made and I have them in front of me manager of the year. I said Chris Cuban who was just fired that didn't bode well. But my whole thing was that I went back and listen to the explanation, and I basically said them. I said they're terrible. And I believe he's going to keep them up. So I was right. But unfortunately, for Brighton that wasn't good enough because he had them up to like twelve at one point, and people lost their minds and thought that that's what they were, and they weren't you said, I am re. I still wanna trophy, I was heading towards that on till they decided to go into auto meltdown. What were they twenty two one beaten at one point top scorer? I'll tell you what, my friend, you nailed it kind of said a bomb. Yeah. The bombing I said, Harry Kane who might have had. He not gotten hurt for so much of the season still wound up with a lot of goals player of the year. I said, Kevin debris know who I'll probably continue to say for the next five years. Or so. Do you remember who you said for player, don't this is not going to this is that you with LeRoy Sante on again? He was head, he but he was heading. I look look at him on like in in in terms of when he did play. He was good. Damn you pep. Yeah. Top four. In this order, you said city Liverpool United and arsenal. So you went to a four I said city, Liverpool United Tottenham. So I went three for four. How did I have United where we both had them to Mazen, you keep second guessing yourself with them? You're like there United its Marino. They're gonna be there. They were people forget because of how bad they finished second litters up. Yes. But they were thought they were a bad runner. Oh, we should have seen this Commodore trucks champion, and then last, but not least our relegation predictions. I said, what furred Cardiff and Huddersfield, although I went to three and you also said, watt furred Cardiff, and Southampton, let one for three so I guess. The big winner. We move on. We move on. Now the biggest surprise of the season. I'm gonna go first here JJ you just mentioned this a moment ago. My biggest surprise of the season is actually in the negative mold of surprise. And that is full him. Now, if you went back and listen to those EPL preview pods, I guess, the reason that I wouldn't be the winner is because I go, I could not a loved Fulham and everything they were doing. I could've probably the most wrong, I've ever been about anything else, saying something since the all your chips too black. That's what you did. And it couldn't have been more red, and it couldn't be more red. But what you did was you said with all that firepower with all that sex appeal, they're just going to be too good to fail. They spent over a hundred million pounds to remake their squad and really go for it in the Premier League. And in the end, the only move that really came good was the two million. They spent on Ryan Babel and you're righted. Wow. Twenty eight million on Zamboni. Couiza. He started just sixteen games, John Kerry, who scored or assisted on thirty goals in three years with niece he finished the season with just one goal and two assists. This guy was being linked with Barcelona rub as got him multiple managers multiple lineups. None of it worked. Ryan sesson young was a letdown. Alfie Mawson was a letdown. They allowed eighty one goals that was worse than the league, obviously, for comparison sake. You know with the worst was last year for goals allowed. It was stoke in West Ham, who each allow thirteen fewer sixty eight sadly, it's the most that a team is allowed since two thousand thirteen fourteen when you guessed it Fulham gave up eighty five this was a disaster, the likes of which that maybe some people saw, but I one of them because I really thought we were looking at a mid table side, and I was just just so wrong. Imagine being that has to restructure payments, who has to sell players, who has to cover this Mace and Scott Packers being hunted. The reins. Oh boy. My biggest surprises the season. Roy Hodgson, Crystal Palace finishing in twelfth on forty nine points. That is good. But does anybody seem slightly surprised in a good way that Hodgson, it's still at the helm in his seventy first year of Premier League team? He's a manager. That's the oldest Premier League manager. There is being when you consider how he took the job after the abandoning of the divorce project. It didn't seem like he would be there when they were about to enter this season. I didn't think so anyway, now he's going into his third season. And if you consider how a stock at fallen off your twenty sixteen it seems even stranger. But some how this works it's his boyhood club. He just seems to fit. I was listening to him do the end of season. Goodbye on the pitch. It's others park after the five three win over born with. And. He's demonstrably older looking like like you can see it then when he was in two thousand sixteen when he was just a. The source of such ridiculed after the defeat to Iceland. Yeah. But if you look back at his career two stints as manager at Inter Milan, the job did at Fulham Liverpool. Job did not go well. But look at the job, he, he did pretty much everywhere else. This is a guy who has so much accumulated knowledge, and now he's bringing it back home to the kkob that he supported as and more than anything. It just seems to work. He was the first thing he did in his speech at the end of the season was to mention the two players that are leaving the club Sperone and Jason Panchen, and he mentioned them because of their contribution to this club. And when you see the fines, Krista, potus, what they're trying to create with the with the T fools and trying to create different friendly. But also rawal, Oltra crowd, the small homely nature of the stadium and the kind of homely don't earth gentlemen, that Hodgson is. It's a fit. Now, if things are badly next season, the reality of Premier League football will clicking and he'll be gone. I know that, but right now I did not think he would be entering his third season at the club because it was pretty much full season with with bore. I'm shocked a militia bit surprised. But he's got a nice team. He's got a nice set of footballers, maybe this can be next season could be like an Indian summer to his career willin more season. Unfortunately, it feels like the real work is about to begin trying to keep there's already talk about Patrick van aren't halt leaving. There's talk about Aaron one Bassac leaving who's kinda like their young star and really, it seems like Wilfred Saja after all these years every year for like the last four years, people have been wondering, you're gonna leave. It seems like this might be the year where he finally does. And if those three players are gone and granted that's gonna. A ton of money that comes in, but they may have a hard time, replacing them certainly the beginning of the season could be difficult. And it's just whether or not the board if that happens if the board has the stomach to bear with it and give auditing the chance to climb house at seventy one he's not talking about leaving the nor should he why. I mean, why if he loves his job at the team is performing well everybody's happy with them. Then do it forever. I'm surprised glad for him because I think he owned fairly became a lightning rod for all the ills of English football sound bite of the season. This is an interesting one that you submit it. So I'll let you go first with us Andrew. Let's just play the audio first and then all react. All right. This is you want to say who it is, sir. Neil of Warna. I don't know why politicians don't do what the country wanted. On this. They a referendum, you know, and now we see different politicians and everybody else trying to put the Fulton, we Theresa instead of getting beyond, you know what did we ever referendum in the first place? I can't wait to get out of them if I'm honest, I think we'll be better out to the thing in every aspect. Intel with the rest of the world. Football watch as well. Yeah. Absolutely. Good nothing. And I mean, nothing screams Brexit more than a seventy year old millionaire with the advertising, visit Malaysia behind him uttering, the words to hell with the rest of the world. His goal keeper is the first Filipino player Neela ridge to play in the Premier League. And his midfield arson is from Iceland, that's just for starters. Not to mention the man who pays his wages is Malaysian Vincent Tan. But leave means leave. Well, what is what are you talking about mine? It's still funny, either site of his ears. Visit malaysia. Let's see JJ my sound of the season. I've referenced this before I have to hear because I don't know, if you'll accept the first one, the first one is one that I've referenced many times, which is only soul Shire, leading up to the second leg against Barcelona. Did you sound I did not think it might have only been said to the written press when he's talking about it? Now granted, it's from the larger context, but the part within where he's talking about what they're going to be doing in the second leg is just so funny to me when he says, quote, we have a decent plan. I hope it's decent. It's a plan. Anyway. We have a plan a decent plan just inspire. So little confident of loop. Oh my God. When I read that every time I read it now the reason I have a second one is because I wasn't sure if you'd accept it because technically that's not really a Premier League award, which is what tonight's award show is really for the Champions League. All right. So if you don't accept it. I also have Neil Warnock. This was it was just so funny to me because after Cardiff lost to Chelsea on the awful call with spill Quetta, who was two yards off side, you expected Warnock to be just this figure of anger, and rage and despondency in the post game press conference. And instead, he was affable. And he almost fell the whole thing funny, and he's talking in the press conference afterwards about the nerve basically of Marizzio, sorry complaining about calls after the Asheville a Quetta goal had been allowed here was worn out talking about that which moaning about throw in. Sara, don't know. He's two yards. Upside be putting him on the bike, no complainant about throw in. He didn't realize. Offside. I just love that. I don't know why. Sorry. Saturday. It also spawned one of my probably worst impressions that I've done on this show said, saris to Yang offsite. He didn't know he was. Suddenly turned into Jacob rees-mogg some brilliant, impression should I should I should do entire shows is Warren. He said saw did. Did you realize? Oh, that's I said saris to yards off site. He didn't know he was what do you hear when you hear nailed it? He's a weirdo. And he said he's going to manage the team next season. Try and get them back in the Premier League. They had grown for successor, but he says, if he gets them up, he will not manage the private. No don't that's me now. No. The men is a walking soundbite. It's fitting that he was both of our winters for sound bite of the season. We continue now JJ. This is now one of the big awards of the night. Everyone kind of edges a little bit closer to the stage for this one the goal of the season. You want to know your contenders. Yes. Little down to four son verse Chelsea hazard verse. West hand company verse Lester, and Townsend verse city. Here's what they sounded like. Guys who've been Sony's. Being against Kenya. Still gino's. This season. Take you all on. Typical. Jay. Thanks, although Silva, winning the second tower. Strike Crystal Palace lead city, but not just with one of the goals of the season. Oh, man four great choices. Lord knows how many we didn't include we probably could've. Well, let me give the honorable mentions quickly for me. No versity. Andrea surely goal at turf. Moor against Burnley. The volley which was spectacular iron Ramsey's goal against Fulham that move. That was the full end of the pitch picked on any one of those. Yeah. I'll go first here and I'll be brief. Ultimately, all of these are great choices, but I just had such a hard time separating the goal from the moment, which is why I did go with Vincent company and his thirty yard strike against Leicester City. I mean what do you say just for that player to do that in that moment? It was it was a jump out of your seat moment in the Premier League the season. And. I'm comfortable with that as much ongoing with Andros Townsend because I of all people give great grit credence to the idea that the best of goal is the volley and he's absolutely nailed that he couldn't caught it any better. The only thing about it is, when you watch it back, it's almost like I was Bernardo Silva or whoever headed into his path. It will it was so perfect. Like he knew just hit. It just hit it. And he connected Seoul perfectly. That's one of those when you hit it, you know, from the minute, it leaves your booth it's going in so absolutely one of the best volleys I've ever seen and perfectly deserves goal of the season. And I think a lot of people have given him it other publications. Yeah. And that's, that's a fair shout. No question about it. All right. Part two now match the season. It's your turn. Liverpool travel to Saint James's Park needing to get three points against their hero Rafa Benitez. And what a game and sued three two was the final score for Liverpool. On a Saturday night of touch house. There's rather says little to win to go to points. It's all. It's all. These. In the Newcastle penalty area. Full. Listen to the tonight's area, the kill gross. Finish Jim shin king posts. The goal. This game. Quits doing twenty nine years of hutch will go to the final day exceptional season. Arlo white on NBC Essen own believable game for me the thing about it was that it was a jaded Liverpool team that go into that game. This, this was the classic. What I talked about down the stretch thriller, where Liverpool are tired. They're stroking with injuries with. You know, the exertions of campaigning on two fronts, and they come into it, and they come up against the team. That's banging form with nothing to lose doesn't matter if they lose the game a well drilled organiz team. That's got a little bit of pride back into sight. And wanna put on a good shorts engines park, and it was a perfect meeting because let's be honest deliver defend as badly in any other game that season this season probably not. And you end up thriller. It's a whole mesh of things coming together. And that's what that's what makes tightly run-ins great games like that. The real hero in this, of course, is the inswinger. Absolutely. And you said it consistently to me privately. Just text you. Hey, JJ three in the morning. Couldn't sleep inswinger. I've, I've received them in the shower. My phone goes. I'm not this is must be an emergency inswinger. That's all it says that's it. You know what it means? There you go. Both good choices from after the season really applaud both of us in all the work that we've done here. Yeah. All right. As we were you sound like you played left back for Newcastle. Here we go moment of the season. This is really the Liverpool portion of the show here. They were at the center of so many incredible game. Owner an absolute donor. Well, I'll tell you what, my friend from the Liverpool perspective, I did not Sunday, December second, the mercy side Darby at Anfield. Here's what it sounded like. Goes into the penalty romantic Ronald the head when the sliced up into the turned away in disgust didn't didn't give up. Why did you know something? I think it's just instinct. Bye. Did you as being livable heroes with? I think I just believed in myself it wasn't easy football. Most makes you told them for me. I just try to enjoy the game today. Again, if I come in, I was set up to try, it helped the team, and I'm happy that we could do in this way, too. Oh my God. It was fifty ultimate, like put your hands on your head with your jaw on the floor moment of the season for me. Couldn't believe Ben Di couldn't believe it. I sit in the clip he swung at it, wildly and just walked away into scusi. He was turning around expecting at any moment that the final whistle will be blown in that would have been that. I don't I still cannot figure out what Pickford was thinking limit from a personal standpoint you as, as a Liverpool fan. In this season with all of the, the great wins that Liverpool had be honest. Was there any other moment this year that caused you to go crazier than that one? Yes. Really the arena goal against Newcastle. It's a tie between the original goal against Newcastle, and the Saleh winner at so them ten and I'll tell you why we were wretch that night so that and so bad. And you're like this is where it all as we take a point out of this one the best. And he just went down the field and scored that goal. No, subsequently. We had the another goal after that. But that was the one and he runs the length of the field and he's not even having that good of a game. And then smashes won't between two defenders into the bottom corner that, that one was huge Mon for me. But you know what I'm balanced? The original one. It's just crazy. Absolutely. Chris, and I also thought of it for best moment, not just because of the insane nature of it, not just because it was in Darby match between Liverpool and Everton. But I think that was really the moment as good as Liverpool had been through the beginning part of the season. I think that was really the moment when everybody thought, oh, there is there is something happening here because I think city were beginning their wobble a little bit at that point. And Liverpool really had not hit. There's yet when you start to see things like that happening when you start to see Liverpool. Get three points in a game where you thought for sure they were gonna get down. If any, you started to think, okay, they are. They are game challenges here, and they did prove to be that all the way to the end JJ your moment of the season. Oh, such is such an absolute donor moment. But and this was the moment when I thought we are going to struggle. No to regain the grown, we had made it's a sixty eight minute of the Merseyside Darby at Goodison an Andrew Robertson in a central position thirty yards out. Fires a ball into the penalty area. Saving is today the day that livable fans back at the end of the season as the way they lost it. I'm not sure ready. Go that far. I will see that Liverpool. Kuno von should've won this game. He was. Shoot at one this game Chun's is the hot shoe that didn't take them. And not what Shola boat this year. Liverpool. Three credible chance show salad with two one on one yet. But they go keep Venus from forty hours couldn't funny. I was absolutely sick after that one Andrew, I remember Jaime Caraher had said the week before he goes, it's about ho the weekends. So the nil nil draw at Old Trafford than we hammered watt for a home in mid week. And we thought if we have three more points that keeps us a point ahead that keeps our noses in front, and that wasn't to be. And I just felt we were it was an uphill struggle after that familiar with six yards out, and it seemed like he had three arts no Saleh, as well silo had chances in that game more than the two that Steve Nicol talks about their by the way lovely production on that affects Matic sorry for to be a donor Liverpool listeners. But that was you keep saying, this is one is a real Downer will not for everyone. People who support Manchester City, listen to this podcast. This is not a Liverpool podcast. I know. But I'm just talking to Liverpool crew also if you're a fan of Everton and Lucas, Tina than it's wonderful moment for him. Probably one of the challenges of the season had that been a category. All right, the team of the season, this is probably the one that I always had the hardest time with because I could really come up with like my first team second team. And thirteen if I wanted to I'm gonna go first right? Or should we just kind of rotate here and all? Go first goalkeeper Giovanni formation of pay four four two. No, I think I'm playing a four three three fair enough. All right, my goalkeeper here, and you might have to shoehorn guys a little bit into possession, or not totally comfortable in, but whatever, goalkeepers Alison most clean sheets. But here's the thing. I, sometimes that's a little bit lazy. If a statistic to just lean on that and say, oh, well, he's the best keeper in the league because it's not just about that. It's also about the defense of the ad in front of him. But he also saved seventy nine percent of the shots that he faced for comparison, sake Minya lay for Liverpool last year was fifty nine percent and carry us was fifty six percent. I don't know that Liverpool were in the position that they wound up being at the end of the season headed not been for the improvement. They made at that position. Defensively we really stick with Liverpool here, Andy Robertson at fullback and Trent Alexander Arnold at fullback in the center, I went with Virgil Van Dyke and Merck LaPorte from the Chester city in my midfield. Manchester City again, with Bernardo Silva, I put in hazard in there and I put young men. Son in there as well even though it's really more of a forward. But I list, those again, this those again, Bernardo Silva didn't has our young men getting ripped apart. And you get destroyed. I thought about Fernandina, but I'm you know what these teams aren't actually going to play dare you to defend this team. All right. Dare you to do it, and then up front, I've got Sergio guero saudi-omani and regime. Sterling. Okay. So you can complain all you want about me, not having a defensive midfielder in there. But I'll take my chances with that Van Dyke in the middle there and, and the attacking power. How dare you, right? Allison and goal. The assist brothers exander Arnold and Robertson, and fullback positions. Virgil Van Dyke attended by Connor Cody who played every single minute of every single game for Wolverhampton Wanderers center bike that level has just gets you in there. So that's a decidedly Liverpool. An entirely loads of us have the essentially everything the same so far, except for LaPorte versus Cody. Yeah. And in tire Liverpool back for because Cody was team player at Liverpool. Bernardo Sova in the in the mid in the mid few three. I, I tried to do what you did. And shoehorn can't do it. Fernan Dino sits in there and screens could have picked other players. I was to put an end goal to content in there because I actually think he had a good season but he didn't repay their. And somebody else who I've shoot Harnden a tiny little bit, but he led his team and passes completed and tackles. Gel material for wolves just a Brit. What, what brillian signing, Cambridge my runner up for signing of the season five million, he cost ridiculous. How could they have pulled that off? Let's wonder how about the day of polonium. My front three will cause cause issues for people Sergio Guerrero as the center forward into three because you look at the goal against Liverpool in that crucial game. The issue had and you look at them gain big on the finely the season he is. Absolutely clutch. Raheem sterling. And Edin hazard who led the league with fifteen assists, you left off money. Interesting. By the way, if I was to do it again, I would have another team with Mani silent for me, but I just tried to put together a team that was broadly, Representative Andrew of all the through that right out the window. I just went, okay? Gimme who's the eleven that I think are actually best. I'm not trying to please people. All right. This is for me. No. I like my team by the way, I might team would destroy your team. That's first of all, we almost had the same exact. But if we replicated if we had the replicator capsule, we have three players that are different replicator leave by the way on the team of the year, Pablo naked. Yeah. 'cause when the votes are for that in the professional footballers of filling out their cards. He was in a rich vein of form. That's nonsense. I think they just don't pay attention. You know that's a name that's big and popular. I mean he still was you the best player in terms of productivity. So all right. And here we. Go JJ the funnel award of the night. Oh my God. It's been a long strange trip. Now our here player of the season. If you don't mind, I'm gonna go. I, I do mine, but I will let you go. I JJ I'm going with Virgil Van Dyke the best defender on team that kept twenty one clean sheets. He played all but thirty five minutes, the season actually scored four goals himself. Not even thing that is really winning him this award. But just for good measure, including in that Newcastle game. That was so important his who score dot com rating of seven point four four out of ten was the best of all primarily defenders, the season, this now is from ninety min dot com. They wrote this not only is he kept some of the league's best dribblers in his back pocket, but Van Dyke also has the unbelievable double record of having the best dual success ratio. Seventy seven percent of those who have completed in one hundred plus duels, and the best aerial duel. Success ratio. Seventy six point two percent of those to have completed in a hundred and fifty plus aerial duels, all in all the former south. Hampton man's influence has been untold with the reds boasting an average of two point three two points per game. When he plays compared to one point nine eight when he doesn't that last stat there when he plays they win. He was the best defender in the league, and I don't even know that it was really close. And for me he was the best player in the league overall Virgil Van Dyke my player of the year. My player of the year is also Scouser Trent Alexander Arnold Liverpool have two fullbacks in the top, six primarily assists, this season just finished. That's an incredible statistic. When you think of providers you often think of out note wingers, number tans, but in Klopp systems to fullbacks who stepped up the season Ivan absolutely blown away by the attacking impact of Trent Alexander Arnold to the point where his mission versus Manchester. United dot morning at Old Trafford. I was thinking, oh, he's out mentors. In Klopp is being too conservative by sitting. A fullback on the bench. I thought your Klopp was paying Manchester United too much respect. That is what he has done to this team as a twenty year old. Gary looker did an interview with him and he talked to him about his time in the youth side at Liverpool as a center, midfielder. And when you see how comfortable he is in terms of his range of passing in terms of fact, he can play pretty much with either foot. It made me think of another sentiment feeder who led the Premier League in assists. Join the last time Liverpool were in a tight race and thirteen fourteen that was thirty three year old Stephen Girard. He led the league that season with thirteen assists from midfield. Stephen Girard thirteen assists from midfield. That was just one more than Trent Alexander Arnold twenty years old at fullback water phenomenal season. He's had no Andrew Robertson, equally unequipped wax poetic about him too. But for. Me Trent Alexander Arnold is my player the season and just listen to this audio could easily be my goal of the season as well came in the defeat at the had. This is Roberta for me knows goal assisted by the fullback brothers. Who is he? Rowlinson put in. But is beautifully goal Liverpool. Well, if you want to see a Moton goal if you wanna call it full, full fake, cross onto his left foot, and then just look at Robinson handled in-space space. So, but then a little lift the easiest diving head is. Tamino econ believe he's look great ball to the far post the buck bucket. A goal. That bowl. Andrew Alexander iron out in the right both thirty five yards from goal fixed going, the right goals with the left plays a pass that, you couldn't have drawn up money, better that dips Ping's at right? Over deniro's head to the on the ruin Robertson, who site foots across for me, no to score and the commentator said didn't even say what to gold by for me. It was what a bowl. Unbelievable season and thirty deserves my player of the season. Oh man. There you go. That is it for for our funding. Award spectacular. For twenty eighteen nineteen. Please chime in on Twitter at CO, soccer pod at caught off site ESPN, we've reached the thousand followers. We should try and just go for two thousand get it done quickly. Let us know what you think what your thoughts are who your player. The season is who your goal of the season was all those kind of things. Absolutely. Because as the proper full non say scheme of opinions, Jeff, they do say that I've heard him say that many times this was a ton of fun. I'll tell you what, though there is still more caught off side to go. We're gonna take a quick break. And then afterwards, it's the after party big. What's watch for because there's still a lot, even though the Premier League season is over. There still so much more football to be played. Don't go anywhere. Oh back now. That is fun. I always enjoy looking back on the season. This was a great season. Honestly. I know there's varying opinions about the title race. But the fact that we had a total of two really historic teams go down to the final day fittingly. It was a total race befitting of that. I really enjoyed it. This was a fun year. There was some fun game. Some fun goals. And, you know, like I said, drama a point in the season we can argue about the season. But we did it on a podcast that we released on Monday, so goal is to argue there about title races. Now. We're in the after party, my friend, where we talk about all the other stuff. Now, speaking of drama, the championship playoff always provides that and it has been no different this year. No, it it's well it's been unbelievable. So we had West Brom and Aston Villa and that was played on shoes it that was the second leg and villa got Don on penalties, West Brom will nil that made it one one and they went through and penalties against a hotel, shall we put it rather robust, West Brom team. But the game that really caught everyone's attention was yesterday at Ellen road where leads lead one nil from the first leg at Pride Park. They played Franklin Pierce, Derby County, leads go wound up early on and. Then things start to fall apart for the home side, culminating in this Jack Mary ical. Now married. Study. Takes the county. Martin Tyler that was not. No. That was the Derby County Rams TV. What an unbelievable atmosphere. It was at Ellen road. And, and in the dressing room afterwards. Well in the dressing whom they determine county dressing. So just in the lead into the game, don't forget, the whole controversy over spy gate. The fact that there'd being leads be Elsa spy, derby, county's training ground. Frank Lampard had been quite upset about this. So, of course, the Leeds fans created a song to the Choon of stop crying, your heart out. So basically lyrics were. All of the spies are hidden away. You don't have to worry. You'll beat us one day. We beat you at home and we beat you away stop crying. Frank lamb pod. So they sacks. They were singing this, right? So basically telling them party showed up. Wow. Frank really enjoyed this. So afterwards in the dressing room, he, they put on stop crying, your heart out, bio-wastes, and sang it again. And I've never seen a mind. Enjoy his moment as much. No, we are set up with the John Terry. I hit said because Dean Smith is the manager of villa but John Terry's assistant manager. It's John Kerry versus lamps in the championship playoff final amazing own believe. Yeah. And John, Terry will be a tracksuit on the sideline for good reason. This time he's not suspended unbelievable. Really unbelievable season. Unbelievable scenes, go back and watch the game on ESPN. Plus, it's soul worth it. The drama is on believable, and I watched it in legends. Oh, really the biggest loss to the primarily leads not being there. There isn't outside of the big clubs like the top six clubs in England. There is no club, not even like leftovers and they wanna championship. That was Philip are like Leeds fans day, calm out of the woodwork because there are massive club massive club, but they have to spend another season in the championship, which is just it's brutal to, to get that far. It is absolutely brutal. And in. Thrall in game absolutely enthralling. I'm Jack Harrison, formerly of NYC pain a big part for leads as well. Nice. Let's see what to watch for JJ the boondocks league, the title will come down to the final weekend, Saturday, nine thirty AM. Both these games at nine thirty fire Munich and on-track Frankfurt and Brusca Munchengladbach Gladbach will host Borussia Dortmund. We talked about these in the pot on Monday belief. Yeah I'm excited. I think that could be because there's no gimme there for either of the teams going for the title. There's just no Guinot, certainly not. And that's what you want. You don't want like the worst thing would being and I'm not bitter, but the worst thing would have been burned Munich going away to Brighton. Hey Brighton gave it. Their all. All right. They were leading that game. Come on. Yeah. Barn right now leading seventy five points to Bruce Dortmund's seventy three points. So it's gonna with the goal differential being what it is a draw will be enough for Munich to win the title. It's going to have to take a buyer, Munich loss, and Borussia Dortmund win. That is what it will be. Why are you still smugly snickering over, because I flicked onto what's next on the list, and I can't stop laughing. Yeah. Go ahead. Saturday, seven AM Levada, and let it co Madrid. Antoine Krizman announces that he'll be leaving the club end of an era. Perhaps I thinking leaving. I think it's the reason I think it's the Twitter feed of Johnny Sharples. I don't even know if that's it. I'm terrible for not having put this on my ruined down. But he tweeted the best thing ever. He tweeted a picture of grease men in his goodbye video. Have you seen it? Yeah. How does Chevy looked. Yeah. Hair, the tweet was grease men. Looks like a, a youtuber who's, who's filming an apology video for setting a fire in a forest for starting fires fire. By the way, the rumor is that athletic cool got wind of him doing another decision video like he did last year. Remember how that just went now? Yeah, just dreadful apparently got wind of it until please don't do that. Just say you're going, right. Let's not make this painful for everyone embarrass myself included. You're not LeBron James in the end for grease two hundred and fifty two games with the club one hundred thirty three goals. He won three titles in his five seasons with athletic the Europa league in eighteen the twenty eighteen UEFA SuperCup, and the two thousand fourteen Spanish SuperCup. He also remember missed a penalty in the Champions League final in two thousand sixteen against Real Madrid. That is also on his lady, miss one in two thousand fourteen as well. No, if he had have listed here, but no, yes, no simply don't know. But you can't remember bring yourself to Burke. No was it twenty sixteen. There's been a lot of talk about. Last year. It was in a lot of people's minds. It was done. He was going to Barcelona and he stunned everybody with the video with the announcement. The decision decision that he was. Madrid and it bothered Barcelona quite a bit. I think they thought that they had been kind of almost like lead on for the sake of the drama of the thing that he was doing. But it seems like perhaps bygones are bygones and Barcelona will welcome in. But that is that isn't assumption. That is not official yet. Here's sit low on that of sump Sion. He told them or at least. Hold them way. He's going. And he hasn't yet announced it now, of course, odious reason for that being the case is this calls doesn't come into a false into the first that you like so perhaps, he wants to wait a half's he doesn't want that to be public just yet. But of course, absolutely inconceivable that he would publicly say, yes, I'm going if he didn't have his desk, nation already in place. We know the dream spring, spoke to a number of big European clubs. We know the Buffa we know that they're interested by guess until this is actually tied up. Everybody's going to be cautious including boss'll unto themselves because lots of buffalo. They had him up phoning up and saying, actually. No, let's go. So we shall see. But I still think it's gonna be Barcelona. Thanks going to be Lona agreed Graham, hunters piece on ESPN AFC, which kind of shows you that it will be our Celona and how we may fit in there. Good piece. Yeah. Let's see. JJ we do have an FA Cup final discussing one sec. But I, I want to tell you about my friends over ZipRecruiter JJ because firing challenging, but there's one place you can go. We're hiring a simple fast and smart place where growing businesses connect to qualified candidates that place, of course, is recruiter dot com slash offside. That's us ZipRecruiter. Sends your job to over one hundred of the web's leading job boards. But they don't stop there with their powerful matching technology. Ziprecruiter scans thousands of resumes to find people with the right experience and invites them to apply to your job as applications come in. Ziprecruiter analyzes each one spotlights, the top candidates. So you never miss a great match ZipRecruiter so effective that four out of five of employees. Who post on ZipRecruiter get a quality candidate through the site within the first day. And right now listeners to this podcast. Try ZipRecruiter for free at this exclusive web address ZipRecruiter dot com slash offside. That's ZipRecruiter dot com slash offside o f f s I d ez recruiter dot com slash offsides. Ziprecruiter, the smartest way to hire. Yes, the FA Cup final JJ Saturday, twelve o'clock. Noon eastern time at Wembley, Manchester City and watt. Furred. I don't like being that guy who says you're going to get excited. But honestly, I don't know if it's because of the, the drama of the final few weeks of the league season or the drama of the semi finals of the Champions League. But for whatever reason this is one that has just flown onto the radar from chance for city to do a fairly unique travel, domestic treble, so they would have taken all the pots and pans from Premier League to League Cup to FA Cup. That's got a bit of interest in it. I guess the fact that. Troy Deeney on watt furred and his whole story. This is kind of the culmination of that because we probably don't think you'll ever win anything bigger than the FA cope. We would imagine. He's more slightly, this is going to be to peak for him. Also, it brings back memories and it'd be chance for people to see what it was, like, when they went there in the nineteen eighties under Graham Taylor, Unser Elton, John. That was a fairytale story, then where they kind of popped up out of nowhere and went to a Cup final, there's, there's angles like that. But the actual game of the match up of the two teams doesn't really interest me. I suppose if you look, if you're, you know, if you're heavy grassy ah, this is oh, look for. I don't mean to downplay this for if you're a Wofford fan. This is like once in a lifetime stuff, potentially have offered funds to good. I hope we have the hundreds of thousands of them. We really know shelling this though. No. They, they should be. Three this will be incredibly fun. I'm not saying this won't be fun game. It could be an amazing game. I don't know. I'm just saying that for me personally, it's just kind of I don't know. I'm just not quite as like juiced up for this one is, as sometimes I would be what to tell if this was the fourth round replay, you would be hitting ping ping ping on the magic. Well, I do think I'm kind of right now with the FA Cup. Just I do find myself getting a little bit more excited sometimes for the third and fourth round games. When you get like non the non league side Premier League side matchup with at least this is a Cup final the people be able to go to because the the rumors coming out of what's happening in the Europa league. Final in Baku, is that no one is going to be able to get there people are going to get there. We'll have time to talk about the rope. Elite fun prediction for the FA Cup final. I'm gonna say city to nil. To one watt. Furred. Nice. Nice. Let's see. MLS JJ, Saturday, one o'clock PM. Montreal. Impact in New England Revolution. New England by the way, have new manager Brucie. Brad Friedel out Bruce Arena in Bruce to the future. This is an interesting one. This is mental they're giving him two jobs, sporting director and manager. Now, what is what is there to lose really can't get relegated? They can't be any worse than they already are. Well, they can be in Colorado has two point so far. The season at New England least had eleven which is still bottom of Eastern Conference, but. So Bruce Arena, did an interview with the SPNFZ and he was asked a question. I think it's Mark Donaldson. Who's doing the interview Bruce was asked to be feels like he has a point to prove in the wake of his last coaching job with team USA. No, I really don't. I'm disappointed in as anyone with the team not qualify for the World Cup. But that's also part of sport. You know, when I, I started that job with the US team in, in November of twenty sixteen. We'd already lost two games in in qualifying. And we knew it was going to go down to the last day, and it did, and we came up short. And you know, I as well as others accept responsibility for that. What's your message to those who perhaps eroneous Lee? See that's your legacy. Fair enough. Everyone has an opinion. I don't object to that. I, I feel personally very good about the effort I put in for that team in twenty seventeen and I think I have a good record over forty years in his game. And I feel comfortable for what I achieved today. It's kind of a dual thing here for me. I don't think we thing relates to the oh, we'll know look, here's the deal the US nut qualifying for the twenty thousand World Cup. It's not Bruce Arena's legacy. But it's part of it. I mean it's, it's, you know, when, when the book of Bruce Arena's career is written, like this is going to be that's going to be a significant or maybe even the most significant chapter of at health, even wrote entire book about it, basically afterwards. So, you know, I it's a big part of his legacy. Now, having said that it is not his legacy. He is a fantastic manager, who is one at multiple levels, and national team among them for what he did in two thousand two with the US men. So I look, if people wanna just forever hate him because of what happened in against Trinidad then. So be it, but that is that is not his legacy and I agree with him. He does not really have anything to prove in this job with New England. It was just talking about ROY, Roy Hodgson, getting back into management with Crystal Palace after what happened against Iceland in your twenty sixteen freedom, which was as seismic a thing to happen as the US, not being Trinidad and Tobago that night and not qualifying for the World Cup. At some point though, you got to move on as a fan base, like you have to move on. And I don't see a relationship between New England Revolution. And this what I'm fascinated by the relationship is people just talking about him. But like how sorry even if he gets them to like MLS Cup final? How does that change anything? Like how does that relate to not qualifying for the World Cup? It's chalk and cheese. Really? And you talking about legacies. He can win two cups in a row that it will won't have an impact on his legacy. His legacies the quarterfinal in two thousand and two. And guess what is in the equal legacy not making it in two thousand seventeen days, your legacy pick one site or together? My point is you're in your late sixties. I'm sure he's made a ball of money in Los Angeles. And he made a lot of money from US soccer. Why, why do you want to go to Gillette stadium? That's never full. There's barely five thousand people there. The team is crap the owners don't care and they've landed you two jobs deal sea and head coach. Well, you make that sound like it's a negative. I think a lot of coaches want to have that job. They wanna have say over personnel. He's in his late sixties, he can't do everything. He needs. He needs help breathe. What this team needs to be UK closer to Boston stadium on start again, that is true. That is what they need and I just feel it. Why would you want this one other one, I want to mention here? But what I have to say about it is not necessarily fully MLS base Sunday, seven thirty PM, FC, Dallas and L AFC. And I'm using that as a way to talk about this. Did you see Carlos Vela is not on the Mexico preliminary squad for the Gold Cup? And that is only the beginning, there's novella not to not toe. No Hector Herrera either. This is super weird and shocking to me. Now here's the explanation. I read Tom marshals piece on this. So I'm going to read from that L AFC forward. Vela's omission was due to the player preferring to be with his club and family said, Mexico, coach Tom Martino, and comes after the thirty recorded twelve goals in six assists in twelve MLS games in twenty nineteen Mike. God, he's been unbelievable. Wet. Stamm striker Hernandez, ask permission to be absent due to the birth of his first child, which is scheduled to take place during the tournament and was expected, while Porto midfielder, Hector Herrera has asked not to be called in after a long season. And appending club move reportedly to let it go Madrid Porto winger corona ticket. Tito missed out after a back and forth in March about his fitness for friendlies against Chilean Paraguay Martino was livid corona hadn't turned up to his first camp as ultra coach and was open expressing that Martinez said that he hadn't spoken to corona since then, and that after weighing up his options decided against calling in the player who has been in good form with Porto Martino said in his time, managing be Argentina and Paraguay, national squads, he hadn't experienced similar situation of number of players asking not to be called up quote. I don't think it's common. It's not something I've seen before said Martino, a call up to the national team is a prize for footballers when they don't see it as that. It's logical for them to not be here. I'm stuck. Nd by this because I would have thought that this would be something that Mexico would value that these players in some way would value coming off of the World Cup. And I'm I don't know. I'm just kind of shocked to see that these guys are so kind of, like casual about taking part in this turn of very strange. Yeah. And yeah. Yeah. Tattoo Martinez every right to be annoyed. But. What he has to do know as much as this is annoyed him. There's some names there that he cannot afford to Aglianese if he wants his team to be a power and not just get through and do well in the Gold Cup. You've gotta look long-term on this. So a bit of what would you call it? Diplomacy is no. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Mexican players have had player power before we saw it at the World Cup. Yeah. I don't know you talk. It's a good point because his Corona's a young player will be expected to be a significant part of the next national team for years to come. And there's clearly a rift between him and taught Martino right now. There's no way around that. So I don't know. I thought this was fascinating in some ways as an American fan. It's interesting partially because okay? This may be boosts the US chances. If Mexico's missing, maybe they're four best players, although her Lozano if he's healthy. But, you know, by the same token, I also kind of want to measure the US against the best Mexican team and if there without these guys and you can't quite do that Mexico will still be very good. They might even still be the favorite to win this thing. But just I don't know for a country with so much national pride over this team. I was just stunned to see these guys kind of just not really take this seriously disappointing. It may be just a perfect storm of everyone of them, having particular reasons why they can't make goal on Totta Martino being quite upset. We left to say, yeah. I just like like Clint Dempsey in his prime. I it's not a thing. I could picture him doing. You can't you can't say that because I remember Dempsey Bradley could use envision these now Landon Donovan is one that's interesting because remembering when he stepped away from the game but I'm trying to remember did he ever keep himself out of any kind of major tournament. Took a huge sabbatical, right? Yeah. Same thing used to happen, by the way, players are no much more guarded of their of their off-season time. And they are looking with more of a forensic view of tournaments doing need to do this is this going to impact me going into next season is rest more important the season is longer, and they also have to think about when they go in preseason tours with their clubs all that impacts. I remember as far back as twenty years. Alex, Ferguson basically answering the phone. Roy keane? And saying, no. When art and will go on the USA a Cup tour. No. Yeah. I guess with wages being what they are now for clubs slopes, callers steak. But man, it's still that's still kind of disappointing. I, I saw the Gareth Southgate's planning on, including Harry Kane for the England game a week after the Champions League funnel, Harry Kane ever going to have a break that's because I can probably had. He probably had GARRETT'S. Okay, Rhone the neck when he was writing that you're better put me on. He on the highly Cain will travel, Harry Kane will be he can't stay away from football. He's not he's not capable of it, and it's being to the detriment of Haley kind of. Well, there you go. That'll be interesting to, to see as we get closer to the Gold Cup when all the roster's released for all the different clubs teams or national teams. Oh man. This was fun. Wow. Oh my goodness. I can't believe it's over this. Really now. Does Mark the end of the Premier League season officially the divinely are over? Everyone is left so many people are hammered hopefully there's Uber drivers standing by or this could really be dangerous view didn't book the Uber drivers don't people book their own Uber drills. We were getting we were doing a special thing for people, then there's going to be problems. Jennifer Lawrence is crying in the corner. What if you said to her? I've been talking to you for the last hour fifteen minutes. You said something rude to Jennifer. Lawrence apologize rude bone in my body. All right. Mel is not coming again. This was fun, my friend, really. It was to you and all the fine people here at the caught offside ballroom tonight. I say, I'll see you take care. Listening to cod off side. Soccer podcast.

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S4E4: Revenge of the Fifth/Pids

Holding The High Line with Rabbi and Red

1:07:41 hr | 6 months ago

S4E4: Revenge of the Fifth/Pids

"The to the human spirit science extremely the arm suits ask with thank you oh hello colorado rapids fans you are listening to holding the high line with rabbi in read. My name is matt pollard. We are brought to you by ekos. Fc and roughnecks scarves it is wednesday may fifth twenty twenty one happy belated star wars day. Happy revenge the fifth and by the time you are listening to this. Probably return to the six or possibly. The seventh awakens fan protests continue in england as manchester. United fans broke into old trafford on sunday postponing the match between united liverpool. Rome is three years away from earning once. Again as josie marino has taken over the helm at. As roma and no matter what happens an american will win champions league for just the second time. Ever as zack stephens. Manchester city will take on christian pulisic chelsea football club and the colorado rapids have their first win of twenty twenty one. I'm joined now by. Everyone's favourite fully vaccinated matsu ball eating. Champion rabbi marc goodman and ginger tumor aficionado for the night math. Yeah that's crazy. I mean not only. Is it a chelsea man city. You know a battle. But you've got a difficult choice for us. Pennsylvania's matthew you've got a local native born pennsylvania. Who was the assistant coach of the pittsburgh. river ounce in christian pulisic his father's mark listening and on the other side. You've got zack steffen. Who was formerly the goalkeeper or the pittsburgh river hounds. I mean you're pittsburgh you can't lose baby this is. This is french fries and coleslaw on your sandwich. I gotta think that this comes down to you. This is probably a. How do you feel about the. What's the there's a theme park right in hershey. yeah. I believe. It's just caller she named park. It's alleged called her. She theme park. Like i think it depends on the level of nostalgia. You have for that or i guess. The question is mark. I would assume zack. Stephens contribution to the hounds was probably far more significant than the contributions of christians. Dad or at the very least you could say that this was you know that is one degree removed from actually contributing to the river whereas acted f. and actually wore. The shirt stepped on the field fought for the the black and yellow. So i think i think definitely played like eight games for us a big deal either way. All right That's a really good question than mark speaking of the other stuff going on and champions league mark You know we are currently recording this folks just minutes into the second leg between columbus and monterey monterey has taken one goal lead up on that so by the time. You're listening to this. You'll probably know whether it's columbus or monterey and then later tonight whether it's club america or timbers filling out the four spot in the semi finals but mark we already know that philadelphia is going to get through. And i wasn't surprised last night with what crews did to toronto. Fc albeit with alex bano you know pretty decent howler with him being office line on that goal that was scored in any case mark. We do have some hope in for what i would call the best collected team and the team with the best mentality of the mls teams nc sale this year. Making it to the semifinals Is there any hope. Or this is usually the round where we start to realize. Yeah we ain't winning at this year again. I think those hope. I'm still you know all of you in in listener land are gonna be laughing or Think i'm an expert or a genius. Because i still have hope in columbus. 'cause they're just a fantastic soccer team and you know just just being ahead. Three two aggregate as for for monterey doesn't for me mean much. I also thought that there are some serious chinks in the armor per club america last time out. I don't think you know them them. Only getting a one one result against portland. I think speaks really well to them. But i think i think you know it's all down to this which is Philadelphia is not playing crews will in the next round. they draw Someone from the other side of the bracket. I think that philadelphia has a really good chance to go all the way through to the final. And i think they'll they'll likely look good So i'm but i say this every year dude. I'm always the true believer between the doors because somehow no matter how many times andrew weedy pounds it through my head. The free spaces disappointment never enters my skull like somehow in my head even though they lost there's like a fantasy universe where know like kind of like where you have a favorite movie were favorite character gets killed and like somehow you reserve in your brain that like maybe in some alternate reality. That character is still alive. Right like I still have this alternative reality of the twenty seventeen final where toronto actually beat club america. You know where. Like juvencio and josie live in in you know on a on a cloud strumming a harp eating grapes being fanned by giant palm fronds and living the life of the true seattle champions as we know they should but matt. What do you think you any go through. And and what do you think about. Philadelphia's chances and the prodigious scoring talents of one of the greatest polish strikers ever to grace the state of pennsylvania won't casper chevelle co or casper. The friendly striker. As far as i'm concerned has been absolutely fantastic folks. He of the four goals in four games played in champions league. Knockout stage has been absolutely spectacular. And one of the key performers. I would say along The to centreback. And certainly what andre blake did against atlanta in the first half of the first leg workman tastic mark. I've i've said this a number of different channels didn't up tweeted this. I've written this for last word. I've said this on this podcast and radio I think it will be all it will be. Both semifinals. Games will be a mexican team versus an mls team. It will be exactly to mls teams that get through to the second stage so it will be one of the two tonight This this fancher topic's going to age are really well or really early and we might not know whether or not until you know until after we released this. So in any case is still don't have a whole lot of hope. I think philly's a great team. But you know i do wonder mark with how well they're playing with some of their young players and clearly. They showed this off season that they're willing to move talent. There's such a huge gap. The between the quarterfinals semifinals. Semifinals aren't starting next week or even a couple of weeks folks will be later on down the season. I think they're in july. So it'll be like the reverse scenario have mark where it'll be the mls team in midseason form and then the league team about to start there. What would be the aperture of twenty twenty one twenty two season for them and then the final. What that point will be well into the regular season as well and that'll be. I believe also a two series as well so you know. I think the semi finals is the best opportunity for us to do damage. But obviously that's going to require three that's going to require two teams being there and i'm still not sure that that is going to happen. So it is though that will kill you mark. And it's it's certainly coming to get us one of their banter topic that we have markelle as i mentioned earlier in the intro rundown manchester united fans got their gaming. It's liverpool postponed. There is a huge protests reportedly of single digit thousands of people outside old trafford on sunday. And then a few of them as we saw marcus. I was watching arsenal take on newcastle on the weekend. They kinda did like live breaking coverage with split screen. Arlo white end rebecca low. Turn it almost like news. Reporters pretty similarly. I think unfortunately eerily similar to the feelings that we had about the insurrection on january. Six of somebody's break a bunch of people breaking into place they shouldn't be. They have very strong opinions about something. There's a question as to whether or not leadership of who they're trying to protest or attention to the trying to get are going to be heard and fundamentally there's a handful but not a lot of security usher people are snell. Who should have prevented this from happening. And they haven't prevented it from happening. And why the heck is happening to say nothing. Of course folks the fact that the reasons for people being there in the seriousness of them are very very different. Things that joke about on this podcast is that smart saddam. An sports aren't important. But it's the most important least important thing must be real marked. The functioning and the proper turnover of our continuous democracy in this country is infinite number of times more important than anything that goes on with the colorado rapids at the colorado rapids. St me dumpster fire. But our government is actually functional. I would very much prefer that than to the other way around. So obviously those things are different but in any case mark while i don't condone and very much the people who ultimately got onto the field adult trafford and dust at the place up did damage. you know obviously pulled off some grass on the chair foods which will make the field. People not happy. I think jack the corner flags mistake and get some face timing. Did some took some selfie so again. Similar to the insurrection. Mark of nobody's going to catch us. This is awesome. While i live stream me breaking and entering and old trafford and being on the field with my user profile that is my name nonetheless. Mark the there has been there's still trepidation about the fallout from the super league. And we're already boiling up of the inequity within football the rich clubs getting richer and then also those rich clubs and the rich ownership groups treating their football clubs like football corporations and not taking into account considerations of the fan and while i don't think fifty plus one is plausible within the primarily cannot create a whole bunch of turbulence. You know the simple fact is the amount to which the standard season ticket holder in manchester is cared about by. The glazers is a whopping zero. The amount that you know cranky cares about anybody in the north of london wearing an arsenal shirts is a grand total of zero while their opinions might not be taken into account like they wanna be heard they want a. I remember the taxi driver in sunderland slide die in season two when they have the conversation about the pink seats and they put it in the new seats. And they'd fight it season ticket holders to come in and install their st and then do that alongside the players and so like one of the fans was chatting up lugo while luke oh nine was like drilling in one of the seats in there and so the taxi driver said like yeah as you know is cheap marketing. Yeah works people are people are reaching out there saying i care about this club. I care about this new ownership. Give me something that shows that like you hear me or just acknowledge and appreciate my existence and the reality is that charlie met vin and stewart. Donald for all of their flaws tried to do that with all of the sender faithful. Glazer's don't care know Arsenal don't care. Roman abramovich cares to the extent that he's pumped in a bunch of billions of dollars into the club and everything and this might be the first thing for me mark albeit under actions that we're a legal that i don't agree with that. Ultimately were violent on some level destruction of property breaking and entering know potentially exposing staff to covid intentionally. I think this is the first real thing that is actually going to get the the protests of a couple of hundred people outside the stadium. I'm not sure that these owners and these billionaire millionaires billionaire. Americans care about that. But hey you're getting less revenue. Because a marquis game that was on a weekend in a prime time tv slot isn't getting it. It's an embarrassment for the primarily. It's an embarrassment. For the faa it's disruptive in the case of both of those teams mark. That might be one thing to where the glazers actually have to pay attention and be like oh crap. Our actions have led to beat may have led to emotions that have led to other actions from other people that have led to consequences for us financially and that might be the first kind of indication that we have of turning it or like them actually saying okay we have to at least somewhat appeased these people so they don't burn the house down mark potts You covered a lot of ground. My man First of all one small correction or not correction a disagreement. Which is i would completely take an oligarchy a kleptocracy a monarchy or an entirely fascist regime in the united states. If it meant that the colorado rapids win championships. I would make that trade in a second. He said jokingly many writers in pundits. I think were smith was the one that i'm thinking of from last week have made the point that manchester united has made this faustian bargain where it said we would like to be profitable and a global brand But we don't care about winning or spending the big money to be in charge To be the best team in the premier league and that's a that's a trade off the the question based on the pitch starving incident. This past week is if you aren't relevance to the home fans in england can you be relevant to the fans in southeast asia in china in india and north america right like if manchester united slips to being a second tier club where they're really not legitimately part of the big six which i think is a is a real thing i mean you know man and i are both kind of nerds for all documentaries about english. Premier league teams english english teams. And we've both. I think the brian cloth Documentaries and movies and you know thinking that like leads was lead. United was a big club. A long time you know sheffield united was a big club longtime ago england and there's a new castle a big club a long time ago like the idea that manchester united is guaranteed to be a globally dominant in english. Premier league dominant team is not true right. There were times in my life when the new york yankees were hot garbage on a stick for most of my life. The dodgers were terrible team and now people in baseball talk about them. Like they're the evil empire. Like this unstoppable. Baseball force with ungodly sums of money. you know that which is old becomes new. In that wishes new becomes old. He said sub tweeting. The book cleese asti so like you know. It's the conclusion that our team is going to be. You know a financial juggernaut even if we don't spend on it and that's glazer sub tweet and that's a crock of tweets is probably bad. I mean the the idea is we. We don't have to spend that much money to retain profitability as long as we bring in massive kit sales around the world but like at some point people. Forget that you're important in your relevant. I mean you know if you go to africa if you went to africa. Twenty years ago you'd find chicago bulls march merchandise. Most of it like a you know like contraband than and totally fake. But you'd still find the chicago bull stuff everywhere. And i think that that's less so today. Like i think if you ask you know your average kid on the street in kinshasa or or in johannesburg like who is michael jordan. They'd be like. I'm not really sure but i know who kobe. Bryant is right like they don't relevant forever and manchester united is trading on the idea that they don't need to spend money but they're going to stay relevant. It's a it's a faulty proposition. Shall we move onto actual soccer here stateside mark. I love actual soccer matt. I'm a huge fan of actual soccer listeners. This sunday at rio tinto stadium the colorado rapids were victorious for the first time in twenty one twenty twenty one defeating bank right caps f c by a score of one snell mark sam. Vines was back in the starting eleven loss. Boubacar was back on the bench in any case both of those coming off of hamstring injuries and were available for selection that move kellyn acosta back into the midfield and that made the rapids look like a completely different team in possession mark. We talked last week about how robin fraser was looking for. Response especially when the team was in possession given how poor they were in the second half in possession against austin. Fcc and the team comes out there much sharper on the ball building out back. Calendar costs may create it It was much more fluid in the midfield anywhere. Able to play out of the press and then move forward. Which is something. I was really curious about giving that vancouver came out in a four three three and the rapids had the best chances in the opening. Fifteen minutes. Mark three opportunities for andre shinyashiki. Almost all of them right outside the six yard box in his little office there on his right side of the any couldn't convert. I need them so unfortunate. Really really poor. Finishing in the case of she she keeps the worst of them for me. Mark coming in the twenty first minute when he has a knockdown header after barbosa combines combine on the left side of the field and then just moments later. Marvin couvert goes on the counter-attack. They were very very direct throughout this game. And they give up the ball and yarborough has ball and then he tries to pass the ball to. Danny wilson makes terrible pass. Mark goes straight to saito. We talked about being a little bit of an unknown quantity. He cuts inside. Danny wilson's able to backtrack get to the goal line. Include the ball off the line. Those should have been two goals right away in the fact that neither of them scored in the twenty first. Minute was really really poor. But then mark in the twenty six minutes unison. Nominally draws a free kick just outside the box diego. Rubio stacks up and takes that erect free kick a spectacular goal to open up his twenty twenty one account mark striking. That ball like tweeted that he was a crap finisher on twitter. And then we got into some little s house remark. lucas cavalier. Any was a bit of a punk in this game. If you ask me. He gets a yellow card and the twenty nine. Th minute var took look as to whether or not that was going to be a red. He also got his elbows up on jack price in the second half jack price also the pretty rough tackle in the second half that saw him take a little bit of an ankle knock that he tried to play and then was subbed out and really the rest of the time mark. Lucas cavallina was put on. Danny wilson island. That was not a fun. Place for him to be rapids. Doing a great job on him. Defensively as an individual and the second half mark was just poor munition for both teams. I thought you know again the rapids play through the press. They break through it. Then they go through to Then they go through to get on goal through barrios on through ho bassett through units nominally and they are able to minister any of their chances. That was really really poor. And then vancouver woke up mark but really on set pieces which i was equally or i'd say more so flabbergasted at the rapids were giving up such good opportunities on set pieces on in the seventy fifth minute. Rabbits had another should have been a goal moment with sam vines winning the ball the defensive third getting up to the midfield and making a run that would have made a spill of quetta really really proud based on what he was doing tactically against real madrid earlier today. Marc he gets into the manchester manchester city zone. He squares the ball to cole bassett. Who baubles it and then gives it up if bassett dummies that mark. Jonathan lewis who came off the bench and the second be lining through. The middle of. The box has a tap-in certainly his best opportunity that he was going to have given his poor run of finishing in this game. And then in the eightieth minute markup baldomero toledo calls a penalty on kellyn. Acosta alexandria getting their arms. Locked up on a corner. Alexandra running forward running through kosta lowering his body lower center of gravity gravity they both go down ultimately toledo decided to go to the monitor after things with. Va are on the headset and then waved off penalty as i think it was pretty clear that alexandria was the aggressor and was the one forcing things to go to ground in that play and then mark the rapid seattle game and they get a one no win. We will start with good things because this was a positive result. What was your good thing from. This past sunday's win I think that the rapids best thing from this game and this is based off of their experience. The week before against austin was playing out of the back effectively so to my mind. What i saw in this game was that Their opponents saw that the previous week they were really vulnerable. What you pressed hard into the corners And often impressed with their front three really effectively. And so we saw that again this past week and the rapids Do what a lot of teams would do under withering press that was relentless in difficult and they didn't do what they used to do in the old days under their previous coaches which is booth Ball long now. The problem with booting the ball along the plus side. Is it safe. And you're not going to turn over the ball in the back like Cole bassett against austin and then give up a goal. But you are going to do. Is you basically make every possession. A fifty fifty chance for the opponent to regain right. The idea of possession matt is pretty simple keep possession. Don't lose if you're beginning moments in your final third of possession. Is you roll the dice and as a fifty fifty chance that you give the ball away. Then you're already starting on nevada's so whatever happened robin fraser got the rapids working on playing out of the back and i know i know i know. Our long-term fans are going to be constantly frustrated with my changing of the mind. On danny wilson. But i think one of the things. That danny wilson did really well in this is. He's really fantastic as a dribbling centreback right when he was in possession of the ball and the press was on. He dribbled out of danger and he drove forward. And what you have centreback. Who can dribble really well. You create serious danger if you want to go back to any of our podcast from last year listeners. When whenever we talked about san jose one of the things that san jose had to face a lot of is the way to beat san jose. Is you use one of your centrebacks dribble up against them because they're not planning uncovering that guy so suddenly their man-to-man defense scrambles they're like a who's got the guy with the ball not me not me and then it's total chaos. Someone steps the ball. Another guy is wide open and all of a sudden. You've absolutely gutted. The right you've absolutely torn them apart and that's what the rapids it in this game. They they actually advance the ball forward into dangerous places because they were pressed And they got out of the press. The now i think the most important thing for me because if in the early season you collapse against the press so one team and you struggle with playing it out of the back at everybody in the league suddenly sees you. Don't play out of the back very well. Then your achilles heel is exposed right. You are absolutely vulnerable week after week. Teams know how to beat you. So mike good thing. And i i think for a lot of listeners. You're like wait. That's really minor and i'll i'll have to say is it matthew is it. I was your good thing. I assume that yours is probably more interesting. And and and wide reaching than my civil one No focusing on Onto individuals mark. One of them being diego rubio with his finnish. We talked to you mentioned last week. Mark on the rapids being very unlucky when it came to cecilio. Dominguez's two goals. That was a sign of those. Wanna guess what the x. G was on the free kick that rubio took the score in the twenty six minute. I know it's low. I think it's like point one that right. It is five point six one percent so that was pretty pretty low. There folks. It should be pointed out. According to emily soccer dot com the rapids had an ex g of two point. Two in this one and vancouver had a grand total of barely won. The rapid should've won this game. Two one i'll take the one victory regardless but fantastic free kick by rubio mark. I know we talk about how he's had some poor finishing moments. If that's just the thing that from confident standpoint you know gets him going relieves a little bit of the pressure. he's not. he's breathing a little calmer. You know touch on the air on the ball is a little bit cleaner. He's going in to make plays and trying to shoot with a positive outlook rather than thinking. Oh god i can't miss this rather than thinking i'm gonna make this because of already scored a goal this season. Good for diego rubio and on the whole ninety minutes mark sam vines came in looked like he didn't miss a single beat you know. He wasn't wholly sharp like we saw him at the height of his powers last year from an attacking standpoint. But you know. I'm going to pick a thing that i would point out for fullbacks in the first three games of the season to not be good at. I would say just overall fitness. Because it's early on in the season and i would say stuff going forward attacking wise but there were multiple times with the phases of play that vancouver had especially in transition especially with fines. A little bit further up the field. They would go to say they would go to. Joe may and they would try to attack down a revamped cougars right. the rapids left obviously with fines. Playing at left back tried to attacking at and vines caught up one wanna tending. He was absolutely fantastic. He got on the ball. He helped start those passing sequences out of the back that were really really positive And so if i watched this game and you told me. Hey matt did you know that. Sam vines you know have been missed like a month due to a hamstring issue. I would have been like no that i totally. Don't remember that at all so the biggest criticism that i have from sam vines is that he wasn deadly in the final third going forward as a fullback and he pitched a shutout and was really great individually fantastic individual performance for him. One thing that. I wasn't really happy with mark as we talked about earlier was the finishing from the colorado rapids the chance prior to diego rubio's goal The rapids at three really key opportunities the to for shinyashiki that i mentioned in the rundown mark had an ex g a twenty eight and a half percent and twenty nine and a half percent and the chance to diego. Rubio had blocked by. Andy rose just a couple minutes earlier had a thirty one and a third percent so the rapids almost got all of the x g. That in couvert got over the course of the ninety minutes in twenty minutes in this one shinyashiki poor finishing he had mark especially given the header that he got against austin f c and former rookie of the year. He asks to be better. In those cases you know rubio had better chances. He didn't score on that. I would have preferred him scorn. Rather than the free kick in this game and cole bassett again. Look really poor offensively. Jonathan lewis and michael borrows had really the you know they of suffer from the same ailment. That i'm of worried is becoming a trend or his. Who borrows is mark. And who jonathan lewis potentially could become an in doing so not fulfill the potential that. Us fans have attached to him where they're both really fast. They're really good at mining open space in the build-up play or as the team goes into transition. They get the ball into areas once they find that space in transition. And then there's none of the final product in terms of the final pass or the actual finishing and so both did a really good job of all of that final part. They didn't necessarily have the final finished granted with borrows it was passed into people who ultimately didn't score in the case of rubio and shinyashiki and cole bassett one case in jonathan lewis. It was one really good opportunity and another one where bassett leaves it to him. Were probably talking about. This is a comfortable two nil win for the rapids mark. You wanna talk about corner defending or any of the concerns that we have with Jack prices health is not folks at time of recording. Speaking with robin frazier tomorrow. And i will ask for an update. I was kind of a little worrying and preemptive In the case of the decision to sub jack price who had the tackle was feeling. Okay tried to play through it and then wasn't feeling it. And then ultimately they wanted to protect him. So i'm not sure if that was preemptive or maybe price in trying to play in the second half actually aggravated it now. It's more than just a really hard tackle on his foot but market in any case Bad things like highlight from this game. I mean you covered so much ground matt. It's it you're you're the michael zahra of Of podcasters this week What you said about. I'll i'll take a slightly different tack on the same idea that you had which is about finishing By you know the point that you Points you made about andre shinyashiki taking four shots in the first half and not not putting any of them back then that was really well said There are always two perspectives when it comes to whether a goal a goal scorer is scoring goals or not and why they are scoring the goals and them is. They aren't shooting very well and the second one is in small sample sizes. That luck matters a lot. And i think that matters a lot. Here which jimmy shaky. I would say that. Two of his four shots. We're well-placed Pretty pretty solidly and against a lesser goalkeeper. Go in right And maxine crepeau. Did a really really great job at goalkeeper. So let's not discount the fact that you know one of the famous lines at soccer and i don't know who said it is the hardest thing in soccer his scoring a goal and i did think that shinyashiki should have done better but he didn't. I'm gonna say one thing that's going to be so nerdy but we have to say it And will probably say it again. And then there's another like. I wouldn't call it a correction but a clarification for our listeners The the thing that i wanted to say is that one of the things that i learned In in in a big way so mls has started recording As you've pointed out expected goals on its website. News statistic for them. They didn't have expected goals last year. So the new. Mls revamp of their website is allowed that to to take place. The thing is they use a slightly different expected goals model than american soccer analysis. And i noticed this like last week. 'cause the numbers In one of the games was really really far off. You're really board folks. You can go. Look at my twitter feed and i talked to the guys at asa. And i said hey what's going on here and they said Op the calculates Expected goals for mls and opt calculates. expected goals is what they call big. Chances has a much higher weight than asa's does american soccer analysis. Day just waited differently and that means that they think that the expected goals typically overall are much larger than american soccer analysis. Does the other thing is you met. You broke it out during an percentages assets gonna break it out in shares of a goal where one point oh is literally where the ball goes over the line and an extremely high chasse goal is somewhere above point. Three i think about point three is like that one's ticketed for gold so Shinyashiki had one shot that had point three six value. Meaning that should've gone in. And he had four shots in the first half all of which together would've totals point eight three expected goals meaning. He absolutely should go in verse. Half any It's a small sample size. Like i said it's gonna take a little while but this is a worry that you and i had the beginning of the season me in a big way. Which was that. this is a team. That doesn't have a lot of guaranteed goalscorers. And they're going to have to do better. The last thing i'll say about this is Thing that you kind of like you very the lead a little or you mentioned her really well. I mean you mentioned everything you said at all really well but Shinyashiki was playing on the right side. Get these natural left-footed layer. And i think the idea was that he's kind of the idea of was the he was effectively playing inverted right so that his left foot was You know his his favourite foot. I think i could be wrong about this. I think three of the four shots. He took with his right foot. So i kinda wonder whether he didn't He wasn't kinda amstrong by by shooting with off-limits. I don't know if that's true. I just think like let's give it a few more weeks. But i'm still. I am concerned about this. A parallel different thought is that the rapids rabid fans and pundits. Like you and i have been on. Da rubio's case for a couple years wonder if he was a high enough quality elite enough player to really carry this team at the number nine position for the whole year And i don't think we saw from one goal this game anything. That's gonna like convinced us that we're wrong or that like he's guaranteed to degrade right. You know one goal does not a season so he's gonna have to repeat this he's gonna have to be law goal dangerous more often And on you know not on not onset. He's he's gotta be he's gotta be able to do it from the run clay of. He's got a pop the right spots. He's gotta shoot up from dangerous places. I'm those are a few of my thoughts. And i think your other point matt was about jack rice. Who came off about the sixtieth sixty first minute with that injury. You wouldn't worry me so much if If i didn't think the team had some serious central midfield death problems you know i think cole bassett not being particularly effect given the first three games of the season makes me a little worried that we're lacking in depth of the middle and i don't really know what that means you know. I don't know whether this team is it position to lose jack price for four weeks and make something happen of it you know. He alternatives at center midfield or a guys like colin border We've got gallivan van. Who hasn't really played centrally at least listed in that position. I think laura's is a possibility boy. Wouldn't that be while the ginger ninja junior Kind of standing in. I think the most obvious guided they would slotted in here would be nicholas mosquito but can you imagine a midfield of mesquita nominally and a cost. I mean that's asking a cost to us so much dirty work It's a it's a lot. It's a lot to ask of a guy. So i don't know i mean i think i think that's an important thing of of thinking about when you're early in the season which is you're gonna to lose guys. You're going to need death. I think one thing that's been established. Pretty quickly is lois. a woman. Cars started this game on the bench with austin trusty. Danny wilson claiming his position and the defense was fine. And i think that's a pretty good thing to think about that thing to think about. Is that depth that we have defense we may not have it at cetera et cetera. Michio things that. I want to add their mark. First of all The washing machine going in the background. Sorry buddy we're we're we're this is what happens when we broadcast early. The kids are running the bath. So sorry about the batboys. this guy's already then So i guess the the two things that i go to a couple of things adhere more just clicking through the chances that he had all of andre shinyashiki opportunities with the exception of the one header. Were all with his right foot. So you are correct mark. I guess him shooting his you know with the the least dangerous of his appendages in the case of his finishing opportunities and then i don't know if you've noticed this mark but in the new first of all r.i.p. Mls chalkboard here folks. While we're looking at their model and the info that they have with the graph of the x gene each opportunity mark Mls actually listening players. I whole names. So i am getting middle names that i previously did not know so andrei bava shinyashiki and then we have jonathan jeremy lewis and then what was the other interesting one that i found. Oh and then. Kellyanne is technically kellyn. Kawhi not kyw kamara. Kfi and then Perry acosta so that is new. getting players. middle names is a bizarre and interesting weapon to have at our disposal but in any case mark. Last week thing. That i'll say i when the first one is always the hardest and the rapids got it. And so now they can move for now. It's not like oh god. We're when this three games. Let's go beat minnesota and on that note. Mark this saturday at dick's park in commerce city colorado colorado rapids. We'll be taking on minnesota united. It will be an eight pm. Local time kickoff. We are currently three thirty four through the colorado rapids twenty twenty one regular season. They find themselves in eleventh in the western conference. They have four points from three games played. they have one win one loss and one draw and a negative one goal differential and of course just the one loss in their single home game so far this season the minnesota loons mark are the death loons and it is death for the loons right canal. They're find themselves in last place thirteenth in the western conference. They have zero points from three games. Played all of which are losses and they have a negative six goal differential. And they're one away. Game was a four nil drubbing on the opening night of mls mark by the seattle sounders. Minnesota looks like a little bit of a different team here. Mark once again in the offseason adrian heat has completely overhauled the four position. They have recently signed avi la. If i'm pronouncing that correctly he is a dp. Stripe is on loan from boca. Juniors emmanuel ray no so their big chance creator is again in at the number ten position but of course without kevin malino who is now with columbus crew. Kevin is hurt in the crew or hurting right now. Market time of recording their down to nil in the first half so our see sell hot takes or aging very very poorly It's a really gritty midfield that The loons have mark in their four. Two three one formation with the aging ozzy alonzo and then we'll trap who's come up and join the club this year and then they are currently without again. Michael kara at these centreback positions. So it's michael boxall chase gaspar and remove matenaer. Who are two very good back. So they haven't been playing well the season and then right toddler has been filling in at that left. Centreback position hasn't been super great danes. Saint clair is again in at goal for Mark as the shining draft pick that they had from last year who came in and one the job from matt. Turner not matt turner. Excuse me Who am i thinking of tyler miller. Excuse me tyler miller and in any case in any dain saint clair's in there. She hasn't looked great mark. The emergency defending minnesota hasn't looked great. And i certainly echo the points. That matt doyle has made on twitter and in his column this week that the team is not doing a very good job of dribbling whether it's will trap whether it's goose whether it's some of the white players there. It's very a lot of work for this minnesota team to get into the final third and then once they're in the final third. It is absolutely ito. it is they just. They don't have any They don't have any venom in their actual attack. Reynosa hasn't looked particularly good. Opposing team's not cute on him and there hasn't been anybody who's really finish the ball or who's finished off. Attacking opportunities granted. Allah was a late addition to the team. So who knows if it takes him a couple of weeks to settle. Maybe he's a little bit more in tune and familiar with his teammates in this game on saturday than he was against austin see their most recent game lost one nil but mark. This is a team that struggling. This is a game that the rapid should expect. You want to win if they want to make the playoffs and i think this is a game that will play into their hands really really well. 'cause minnesota doesn't really press the rapids the rapids can play out of the back. They can play with the ball and if they're able to get a goal against a weakened defense with dane. Saint clair not playing well with austin lonzo old and with the team. Just being not a strong defensively. Then the panel's going try to set in hero ball is going to try and play it and then minnesota's just going to chase the game as they did for the better part of seventy minutes against austin on saturday. Mark your thoughts on the current state of the loons your thoughts on what this means for the rapids and what needs to happen for the rapids to get a result on monday night. So i'm a little bit more pessimistic about this match than you are. Because i mean minnesota is really strong And they've they've lost all their games you know. They lost their first game to seattle And seattle beats everybody in seattle. Looks absolutely dumb. They lost the salt lake. Which that's bad. Don't lose the salt lake. They're not very good this year and then additionally they played austin and lost to them One to nothing and we know that austin is a stronger team than i think. A lot of that. I give them credit for at the beginning of the season They're gonna come into this game pissed off her ladder a lack of a better price. They're gonna come in angry. I think you brought up all the ways in which they're not laying particularly go but i think an alternate way of looking at it is This is a team that is full of talented players and they haven't clicked to this point I i really I think that Players like Emanuel reynoso and robin laud are really talented players. Who are just waiting for their moment to strike and they haven't gotten hot yet and they will. I think your points about the defense are valid. I think that that means that. I feel like this game is likely to be a high scoring game. Both teams are likely to get on the board and that's saying something for the colorado rapids who have not been involved in any significant scoring games to this point only scored two and their opponents through massive only scored three. So you know. I think this is my game. Might end like to to Which that'd be great. It'd be great to see the rapids exit score two goals in a game. But i think the last thing is. I really like what you said about dain. Saint clair that i. I wasn't aware that he was struggling. But i think those kinds of things where young talented goalkeeper who's a known as a pure shot They can be really problematic when they rely too much on their shot stopping as opposed to some of the more veteran Bracket of skills like positioning. And like you know reading reading the situation. Well so those are a couple of thoughts about minnesota. I wouldn't sleep on them. I think they're a lot better than they showed. In the first three games the thing that i would respond to with that mark. I'm still not sure you know like look. Monosso could absolutely turn it on. We saw that he would. He was capable of in the playoff game. He singlehandedly can be a chance crater for the team. I question if you're leading. Allah whose brand new team brand new to america brand new to molest potentially playing his first game really at altitude since he spent most of his career in argentina at boca juniors up to this point bats an area that i would have concern so i think this is a i guess this brings up a really good point that you have mark about the concerns that we might have about jack prices availability in. What does that need for the team. Defense late but i just see a lot of similarities. Between like what are cell has soared. We looked like against the rapids. Where it's pretty much. it's damir kreilach. And it's albert rusnak and the entirety of their offense comes from preventing the ball getting rusnak. And if you can't do that prevent rusnak finding damir kreilach or in this case it's renault so to ottawa. So i think that's going to be the key thing for them. And in that i think the health of jack price is going to be a critical variable. And then what are the centrebacks doing. Can they do a number on avi lot in the same way that they did against castellini if they can do that mark. I think they've got a really good chance of winning the game especially given playing this game at altitude still relatively early on in the season. Let's just look at the Bench options minnesota has here mark. Patrick way yes related to the other way. As of american soccer greatness he's a rookie and a draft pick if i'm not mistaken And then they have a. They have a couple of other young players. Mcmaster i think is homegrown. I think as a teenager and then mark. I didn't even remember this one. August delo apparently is with minnesota united now. I completely forgot about that with just how his career has gone. So i just. I don't see a lot of teeth. And i don't see a really good attacking pedigree in terms of the players. Have off the bench. Should be pointed out. Mark that young grey goose. Who's been a really good box. Box number eight for minnesota. In recent years he was on the bench for this game. So we see him in the midfield potentially alongside reinoso. Does he come in. For one of alonzo or will trap is something that i'll be looking at from a lineup standpoint. But just based on pedigree experience in what's going on with his team renault so is gonna be the individual that's gonna pick them up from attacking standpoint and if he's not scoring the goals it's going to be ali law. I'm not really threatened by anybody else. Given how dotson is playing given what we saw from him olympic qualification. That was not good. Unlike sam vines on. And you don't even finley you know he's gonna be going on the right side playing against sam vines. I would expect sam vines to win that match up. So i think it's going to be all about mine up the middle in the case of both teams jack prices health is critical what they do defensively against an unknown quantity in is going to be critical and can they score the first goal and then just forced the the cbo factor. The similar panic. Can they force. What austin and oursel- did minnesota in terms of when they scored and then how they played against them that played into that teams hands and against minnesota can the rapids did that from a style of play standpoint and from a result in from a score line and an emotion standpoint. If they do that this game is right for the taking. And i would expect the kids to get all three points. Mark predictions like i said to to I think that This is a this is a tougher game for the rapids than a team. Then playing a team with a three losses in a row to start the season would otherwise reveal. This is a good team this starting badly And they are going to come in super kicked off You know and at adrian. Heath is a talented coach. I think a lot of mls pundits like the make fun of him because he seems to have this genuine sensibility where he's the paradigmatic coach. Who takes you know a newspaper article from some local person. Who says you know how like they're not very good or put them in the power rankings at number forty seven he points to it in circles insist. Nobody believes in us. But i even you. He does dick every year man. I don't think any of us by it with that being said like the dudes proven that he's a pretty good coach and he's been very effective. I mean he's been minnesota united coach since they were expanded. And that's really that's something that's notable they'd like. It is not easy to survive as a coach in this league. Doll sleep on. Adrian eat or this minnesota team. What do you think. What are your predictions. mark. I'm scared to give a prediction right now because i feel like a heath might be listening to us and i don't wanna be i don't wanna be. The motivational is not that. I'll tickets to one one victory for the rapids in this one. I think that. I think borrow says due to actually have a goal contribution in the form of a goal or an assist and. I think this is a team that without ako para and dane st clair in his current mental mind state will be susceptible on set pieces. And i think that we've seen that other people even if jack price can't play in this game. I think that we've seen that unicef nominally. Cain contribute offensively and obviously diego rubio from direct free kick that he scored on sunday. We'll be very very good. Last thing that i want to comment on this market will be streamed there is a scheduling conflict. We have for the For the nuggets and the apps playing to where the altitude sports channels are unavailable mark. So anybody anywhere. I'm not even sure it might be gio locked. But you have ways as we know. Mark of getting around that Where anybody without dish or without direct tv reverse of your cable channel situation can get stream this game live on colorado rapids dot com and so in that mark. I think this'll be the first non nationally broadcast game in the robin fraser era that the overwhelming majority of the denver metro area. We'll be able to watch and that is something that we should absolutely rejoice other thing that we like rejoicing. Mark our ask. Hda chelsea and we have a very good email from one rob bayless. I will throw the first question to you. Mark rob posture that maybe we could have seen delayed recovery for loss boubacar due to it currently being ramadan market and obviously he is fascinating. Something that sam vines will would not have had to deal with religiously as both of them were recovering from their hamstring issues. Have we seen anything like this. On as someone who hasn't ever undertaken a fast let alone a daily fast four entire month. I'm hoping that mark could share some from some of his experiences assuming that he does fast periodically for the various jewish holidays and has spent time discussing thinking about the past practice outfits in with martin mike and society. It should be pointed out mark. You had a very very good conversation. That i think led to a burgundy wave article back in the day with one mohammed sayyed. Who was a muslim rapids player. I believe in twenty seventeen who went through that as well and spoke about that and that was very educational for me reading and listening to him. Talk about that from ramadan standpoint. Mark someone who asked fast for religious reasons. How does that affect your metabolism and your ability to be athletically functional. And how could ramadan be affecting whilst boubacar in the early part of the season given that he was dealing with an injury. Yeah you you spill. The beans vol man My so mamas ie who came over to the rapids from minnesota in that trade Which set josh gad. In exchange for mark. Birch and sam cronin You know sayyed was fasting for ramadan in the middle of the summer. One of the things. That's interesting about ramadan. That probably most of our listeners are aware of but maybe not all of them is that Islam is on an unadjusted lunar calendar. Meaning that ramadan Will come because the lunar calendar only has three hundred and fifty four days in it. It will come sooner and sooner against the solar calendar every year so in a muslims life They may be. They may be born when ramadan is in the winter and then as they get. Older ramadan will move forward to the fall. Move forward to the summer and then move forward like it is this year to spring The other thing about the these lung fast is that it is different than the jewish. Fast jewish fasts. There are five minor fast. Which are sunup to sundown fast. Like the muslim fast there are to sun down to after sundown fast in judaism Twenty five our fasts and just like the muslim fast. They're they involve neither eat nor drink. you know for observant. Muslims ramadan when it falls in the winter is ideal because it means you know the sun will come up late. it will down early And it'll only be a couple. It'll only be eight to twelve hours long In the summertime. It's a lot rougher. So now we're closer long story short i asked mohammed sayed about this and he was really nonchalant about it to the degree that i was almost shot like. He was like yeah or muslim athlete. This is something that we get adjusted to end. It doesn't really bother us right. And so what. They do is what he would do. What most muslims do. Is you kind of carbo load at five o'clock in the morning before the sun comes up you hydrate as best as you can And then you just kind of take it easy all day long and then when it comes time to perform you perform s i. It was fine. You know. I mean. I if if you want to search my twitter feed a retweeted it a dozen times so impressed with it. He had one of his best performances advertising colorado rapid where he absolutely dribbled through three quarters of the opposing team while at he. He did this during ramadan while he was fasting. In a play that ultimately led to is goal that he assisted From my perspective you know my biggest day of the year as a rabbi is young kippur four and last year because our kanter wasn't able to travel from israel because of rona virus i had the lead the entire service by myself soup to nuts her twenty five hours And that was pretty exhausting. And i was wrong out like a sponge by the end. But there's a big difference between standing up there and singing and And leading and serving than there is from running your average soccer player runs between five and eight miles in a soccer game. I mean that is mind blowing. I've run when i've been fasting but not much you know and not very fast and not very well And especially the last thing. I'll say is you know. These games almost always take place at the very very end of the fast. When you're at your absolute worse than we need the best way to deal with a fast Is i always feel a lot. Better and more rejuvenated. If i had a good solid nap An app can really kind of like if you sleep through much of the beginning of it then you could do okay But it's still pretty tough. I i saw. I don't remember who the player was but It's it's an english premier league player for. I wanna say city but i could be wrong And i didn't realize player was muslim. But there's a video of him on the sideline right as ramadan breaks This past week and one of the trainers passing him. You know little protein bar at a little like a protein drink and it was really you know it was really great to see that. There was a plan and and the nutrition and health of the players are. Are there any last thing. I'll just say i'm in the simplest thing to say about this is it's not that big a deal for for these athletes or they at least play it down in the sense that like they grew up with it they get used to it and to me. I mean it's also the same way. Like i fast a couple times a year. I don't like it. I don't enjoy it. I'm not at my best focused but You know. I go into these days. And i'm pretty functional and if i take a nap at the right time I'm i'm okay that manchester city player that you were thinking of mark was reality Who was observing ramadan And then what was the other thing. That i wanted to say we will. I will provide a link in the show folks to mark's article if you want to read that or potentially reread that since it's been three or four years in any case the last Ask hdl that. We have from rob asked him as mentioned above was an imposition of kinda rooting against the rapids Rob partial emailed us folks about emily's fantasy n. our h. dhl head to head group. Rob actually was set up to play mark in ammos fantasy end of losing behind a william yarbrough shutout and clean sheet that ultimately got the win. For what's your team name again. Mark bosnich coasting through life named her Referee footy spas akos. Yes so in. Any case of bizarre goes much like he has in rapids. Games made his biggest impact in the end of the game. Or in the case of this the end of the round of emily's fantasy so he was asking What are your respective takes on this fantasy sports dilemma. So rob was referring to the do. I take rapids players. Or how does me. I pick a bunch of players from mls and then how do those square away with you. Know i pick you know. Say i pick a team that is playing against another team that could potentially prevent ourselves for making the playoffs. Do i root for something. That is good for the rapids. That is for my own enjoyment of the sport. or do i root for what's individually. Good for me. Which in the context is just these individual fantasy players playing well so mark. I don't particularly care about what's happening when the new england revolution are playing the new york red bulls for example. But if carlos he'll is on my team captaining him very very much about that game. Do i intentionally pick players playing against ourselves. Because then i to root against the team i wanna root against ourselves so for the team playing ourselves doubled down on that with my fantasy picks so to answer your question directly here rob up first of all i point out. Generally other than defenders for set-piece goals like the centrebacks jack price for bonuses which don't really count on which is mostly like him. Making crosses doesn't necessarily count as much for him as position getting goals and assists for him to pick up his points or a defender getting a clean sheet. The rapids are the best option that you have from fantasy standpoint. So that bypasses a lot of my problems. I rarely have more than one rapids player in my fantasy team over the course of the last couple years but i can certainly understand mark. You know a know a inter miami player an inter miami fantasy player thinking just martinez is really good as eko. Barcodes really good you know if they're playing. Fc cincinnati or montreal for example. They're going to score a bunch of goals. Do i want a bunch of points because of that or do i shy away from them. Because i don't want to have to see myself as rooting for miami. I don't want those two things to conflict with each other so rob. I generally avoid matchups wear. My emotions are where my heart are in them. Or when i do pick on them i pick it when it is a favorable matchup for the team that i particularly really care about so for example. Not that this is super relevant mark. But i do side do some side betting on the bed. Mgm app and i do not bet on fulham. I very very rarely bet on the lakers dodgers for example. And when i do it's just the straight points bat and you know it's when the lakers are playing. The pelicans are really bad team for example. Or you know. I would bet you know when the dodgers are playing the san diego padres. I would bet the over on the run. Total for example. So i don't have a lot of those situations where those necessarily conflict and i would say in general mark that has led to me having more success in emily's fantasy because i'm picking with my brain and picking favorable obvious match-ups in these cases to where if i am picking rapids player. It's in a very very good match for them. Rather than having to hope they can go to seattle and get a get a clean sheet. Because i have to have rosenberg and my team because i have to have a rapid player my team. I don't do that so when i do have clear. It's because i think they are right. Pick to get a good match up. And then i'm rooting for the same thing. Because of what i expect. And then when it's the opposite case rob. There are just so many other teams in so many other match ups that i don't pick for. I don't have players on my fantasy team who are playing against the rapids to wear. Then potentially you know. I'm rooting for a wayne. Rooney or furs lock john. Carlos villa to go off against the rapids because of that i avoid that entirely by removing myself from it and there's enough teams enough players. Enough other favourable. Matchups out there. That it's it's not really you know it's pretty easy to say you know. There's thirteen games this weekend. I can just not have a player involved in the game that the rapid surin included in that. But i do see some conflict hypocrisy issues in there where you know. An la galaxy fan will have in captain carlos vela and then think about that and not think. That's an issue or bouquet from heartstrings. Fan perspective but in a lot of my media work and in my fantasy work. I'm able to divorce the emotions of caring about this club from just objectively looking at it and then observing the soccer and then trying to make sense of it and that makes me a better fantasy player albeit a heartless fantasy player. Who's not just constantly trying to have three rapids players in my team. Because i have to win. With the pits i win with other players and that makes me successful fantasy player. Who is one of the only two undefeated teams mark. Hungry like josh. Wolff is one of the only two teams in the mls fantasy boss experts invitational head to head who is currently three and zero on the season mark. Let's get out of here your listeners about it. Fc and roughnecks scarves yup It would be a great thing. Hey matt did you hear this past week that It just happened today. That a farmer actually relocated the border between belgium in france by moving iraq in his field. Did you hear about this. I did not hear about this. But i do know about. I do know about international like border markers and those being a very big deal from a jio locked topography standpoint. Yes some farmer move the move this two hundred pounds stone because it was in the way of his tractor Set off a minor international incident. Which which which between. Belgium in france changing the border between those two countries. You know me a really cool way to commemorate that the scarf and a map of the border i think so yes i was there. Board change border war of the former iraq. Whole wonderful ways. You can commemorate these things you know. You can have a large mortar rock. The size of the small border rock. 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Caught Offside: OGS for MUFC?

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Caught Offside: OGS for MUFC?

"Caught offside with Andrew gumming and JJ Davani. Off-side from the Upper West side of in hat, Andrew gumming, J J Advani, what's up. I was a nice. Oh, yes. Considering you feel a bit under the weather. Yeah. I wasn't gonna bring that up though. Because I don't want to. Selling whiny, baby. No. But I will say if there's a lag in energy won't become there won't be me won't be. You do look a little bit. I know it's not good. It's not good. But it's it's nothing coming out of the Bom Bom nothing coming out of the mouth, right cold. Yeah. Hopefully, that's all this, right? I wasn't talking about any of this. And now you've made me out into this. Just weak. Solis figure. What would you have preferred we open with Brexit? I wanna just hope we would start talking about soccer and sports. All right. This sports really like. Sports will put you on a real roller coaster. I know we know that but just like your weekend this weekend was wild saved kind of like the Manchester. United win over Spurs was probably taught them most gut wrenching loss of the shorn. And then the the eagles happened. And like I'm ready after the eagles to just check out on sports teams. I'll do that mainly for the when the eagles play off when their season ends. I sometimes feel like you know, what I need two weeks. I binge watch shows like I don't want to even watch sports centre. Whatever now happen to work in sports. So it's hard to do this. But I was like you know, what Monday night. Syracuse is playing Duke. As a Syracuse grad. Someone who's obsessed with the team. I gotta watch. I would I'd hate myself forever. If they lost that game. And then they go and beat Duke Indu in overtime. It was like one of the greatest games ever seen sports will just it's what's great and terrible about sports all at once. Just when you thought you were out they pull you back in. Yeah. And now I'm back in and now I'm watching everything again like like at all never felt guilty being happy yesterday after the Syracuse game because I was like the eagles deserve more of a period of mourning now because you're still reflecting upon the fact that you are reigning Super Bowl champions for another weeks. I wasn't angry. But I was really really kinda like it was a heartbreaking loss. I was heartbroken for spars who we're gonna talk about that. Oh, boy that was that was something. I don't wanna look I know that this is not a Tottenham podcast is a general soccer podcast. Try to have like a tone of of bitterness over at Manchester United fans, listen to podcasts just as much as Tottenham fan. We take down the down the middle OG is you're calling him on the run down. I can't type I you could ask me ten times to spell the last name soul Shire, and I might spell it differently on all ten of those times. Let's GS. Everybody knows what we're talking about. Klay tizzy used to say it differently. Original original gangster, soc our soul Shire. And then when he scored fell Shiraz done it. Yeah. So, yeah, we're gonna talk about him and whether or not momentum is starting to build in his favor to potentially permanently become the manager of Manchester, United, obviously, we're gonna talk about David heya and kind of a performance for the ages at Wembley the other day. We'll talk about it from Spurs perspective. Because not only did they lose a game that they probably felt like they should have one. They also lost their best player, and they didn't just lose him. They lost him for a while. And that is bad that is bad. Bad news bears. And we're gonna talk about to heya we're going to Pedder check even talking about Sunderland because they're making waves here in the United States with the Netflix documentary central until I die with David Preece who will be back on the program shortly red card man of the match. I'm really feeling good JJ about my red card and my man of the match. I'm feeling good about the mailbag because there was a lot of tasty things were thrown up ruin Ave Lampert. Jared watch OMO enter I better start looking for it. I found it. Well, it's mostly going to be a Lampert. Watch our rather who was watching him. On gerard. They're just out in Rangers or currently on this. It's the Scottish winter break. Right. So they're currently out. I think in somewhere Sony on Gerard is joining in training, ping, forty yard passes and making his his players look inferior like I don't care. How old he gets you? You never lose that. Right. Yeah. Lose pace late. But I don't think you lose the ability to do something like that. But it's you don't lose it. And he's not the game long. Fifty is even like thirty. You wanna see the pass he played though? All right. It was an, of course, ranger social media world over I should say to for my read or from my man of the match for the people who don't typically make it that deep into the podcast because it's always at the end. But who like when I give you trivia, my man of the match is heavy on the trivia. So I'm giving you reason either to stick around or to just fast. I am. I'm not in the trivia mood. What's wrong with you your under the weather? I don't want to be quizzed put on. The spot like in some kind of interrogation by sickness have to do with your ability to answer questions. We both have our ailments. What you go do the show from in there. If you're so worried about getting sick go I can see if the glass outbreak monkey let's see let's talk about like, I said before Manchester United and they're one victory over Spurs. Oh JJ. Happy days are here again for Manchester United. It's amazing how quickly it's all changed. Yeah. I know it's kind of not so much. Oh, what a good interim appointment the buzzes back. It's kind of switch to should this guy. Get the job going forward forever. And it's just amazing. The little things that the just little things that are happening throughout expert since there. He's laughing at the game. We know he's being around the training ground. We noise been talking toilet owner saw Cher. But what we're discovering is that only gonna soldiers coaching methods and the things Furby Dade are no robing off and training. Yeah. We've heard that. He's playing the older guys against the younger guys which was a Fergie game. He took them up to do by he worked on on tactics. But also heavily on on attacking play. You know, Furby threat from the frigging enor- book. I'm we saw at Wembley that this is the team that's dur- still it's still problematic. It's not perfect. But look at Lindelof performance with goalkeepers performance. Look at Pago has more. Moments because I still don't think he's one hundred percent there. Look at rash Democracia. Yeah. It's amazing. What a what a smile in a positive attitude can do they're like you're making light of that. But I do believe that that is part of the is the stats in terms of sprinting that that's that is such a measure of of of the intangible of they're trying hard on the Marie-Noelle. I know he played a different tactic in a different formation. But if you look at the Marino stats, I mean, they were only just ahead of the only team they were head of in the Premier League in terms of sprints most sprints was Fulham or most ground covered or whatever though head of everyone have guessed that, by the way on believable like he's turned around so many little things. Now, if you'll allow me to put on my Spurs Andy bitterness, pans, the here's the only thing I will say, and then I will go I will go immediately back into defect. It'd be one. Well, here's the thing is I saw a headline that says societas plan is coming together as. Manchester United defeat Spurs at Wembley. I'm sorry. It was the plan to lose five one Tottenham head at least six or seven chances one that United scored on. So like, I do think that we need to pump the brakes a little bit on throwing them in a parade after that performance. Yeah, they got the three points. So if you wanna ask the question of whether or not he passed his first true test since he took over after playing a run of poor opposition. How can I argue with the fact that yes, he did that got the points? But I mean like you watch the game JJ how many Tottenham this is the same Tottenham side that we talked about against Everton who were ruthless who it seemed like every single opportunity. They put on that they scored on. Sometimes you have days like that. I guess the soccer God's made up for it on a day like this when it's just like one opportunity after another either is from another planet, or it's kind scuffing one or son scuffing one or L Durell just putting kind of at two. Hey as feet. It was just I don't know. How you explain? It was just kind of one of those days for ton there. Build up. Play was brilliant at times, they're you know, intricate passing moves, look, I can't get on them. It was just best some bad finishing combined with some out of this world goalkeeping combined with one great counterattack from United. Yes. Spars looked every inch the well drilled welll unit. But and I don't wanna come down on cairn trippy. But when you're so much in control in your plan such a high line. What was he thinking of without pass because that's what United were waiting for and to give pug his credit? Andrew I believe if that is under Marino, he takes another touch. Instead, he made sure we got the ball out of with feet, and he whipped a perfect ball into the space on rash verd- who has been working on finishing wit or they're going to share. No, better master, no better Pupo on it's in the back of the net. No what I will say about Spurs. They peppered the gold all it takes for the floodgates open is for the bowl to be a few inches the other side of Davidoff. But everything everything seemed to be where he could get to it. And that was the story of the gif. Let's not bitterness against mine United. That's not being pro Spurs. That's just a fact what happened. It is what happened now. I will. I will come back, and I will now defend soul shyer because you say, you know, if that's PA under marine. So maybe takes other touch. It's not just rash. Verd- practicing his finishing or whatever it is that entire play the way that it went down. This is from Andrew Harare on Manchester United's website, he talks about soul siren the tactics that he implemented and how it just like perfectly set up that goal Harare says the manager told us that at the beginning of the game. It would be difficult to make sure passes. He told us it would be easier for us to switch the play. And to look almost without looking to the other side of the pitch to switch the ball. Because that is where we were going to find spaces. We scored like that. So thank you to the game plan as well. That was Harare talking about soul Shire his tactic coming to the game for sure, but it's also the. The manager Sola Shire having fit that they'll make does runs. I don't think there were making those runs under Marino. Because they never put the ball was going to get there. And Utica Marci. Al who could have falls Spurs chances. He could've opened the scoring when again trippy miscontrol the ball, and they break look it was it was a mixture of perfect game plan. And look you want look, general and soul. Fire social has proven that he's got a plan. He's brought in a good atmosphere into the into the locker room pussies also being lucky on that. This was his low-key birth yet. Now, let's talk a little bit more about this idea of momentum building behind him getting the job. Now, we talked to Craig Burley last week. And I asked him the question necessarily say well, it was kind of a leading question. I said, you know, does it really make sense that if social goes on and does all this great for United. Does it really make sense that he wouldn't even be considered in Craig set? Of course, that makes sense. It's social has no experience. He shouldn't Manchester. United should not entrust a guy like that. With them going forward. I get that side of it, certainly. But. I assume it's. Hypotheticals? But if they do continue, this sort of whatever this enthusiasm is that they're playing with it is it's working for them. They are they are a different side than what they were a month and a half ago. You know, if they go on some kind of European run in the Champions League, if they do find a way back into the top four if they go on some kind of FA Cup run. I don't know if any combination of those things happen. It's gonna be it's going to be very interesting because I don't think the decision is cut and dry as much as I love Craig as what Craig made it sound like last. No. And certainly when you're hearing rumors about much the United considering Garrett soak it his club CV is marginally better than than older gonna sell shares. And maybe it isn't because at least on Oleg or social has won championships with Molda the thing for me. Andrew is the test to calm, there will be safe, for example, PS g open open batter them, which I honestly don't think is going to happen though. That would be something that would be a huge problem for him. But say they were to get a result against. S g result at the end of February against Liverpool like a win that he will be in serious consideration. There's more to it than that, though would Edward look at him and say I've been pushed and press to have this kind of interlocutor between manager and myself on transfers on the direction of the club. And I need somebody who is steeped in the values of the style of play, and what Manchester United is or was under, sir. Alex, ferguson. Would there be a better person to make director of football than only gonna Sasha? That's an interesting thought to now, I definitely think that, you know, three games three bad results. And you will see him slide out of the picture. Oh, yeah. This could really change absolute. And that's why I'm loath to say, I know it was a great win against bars on I know, he's beaten the opposition put in front of I you can definitely feel the vibe improving around the club bought he it's gonna take a little bit more. But that might be just a win another round of the champions now to the court. Chorus of people out there who are saying he has no experience. He can't his first real job can't be United. I would kind of tell those people to look at that. And say is is what he's gaining right now. Does that not count? Like, this is now experience he is managing Manchester United right now he is going to be playing PS g in Champions League. And what's more? If you're worried about his selections and a transfer market or something like that. Okay. Fine. I could understand that. But what have we talked about with the United under Marino that it's not just about who mentioned the United want? It's about elite level players needing to want to come there as well. Right. We didn't think that that was going to be the case with Marino with what we saw happen. The guys like Papa players that caliber, you know, if social concern them back into a club that marquee players want to go to because they're playing a more open style. There seems to be a more fun feeling around the club. That's that's important as well, and the massive wages and prestigious Tober still going to count. If he engineers a top four finish and gets another round of the. Under his belt, what he will be one of the front runners for the job for sure. Now, I said I have to call myself out. I said at the start that there's no way to look at his appointment even in the interim as anything other than crazy mocked me. No, I suggested that maybe this could become a real. No, no, no. I mean when he got the job in the first place. It was a left field. Kind of. Let's just put a hero in very much like what Nottingham Forest or doing Martin Neilan, Roy Keane? No, given the job. Let's take someone from the past to give a feel good in a bad area. But are a bad moment for the club. But that doesn't mean it's not working, and it has worked new consider Robbie muster a trusted source of soccer knowledge. I like Robbie Mustoe. Here's what he said about it on NBC N if United if the wind verse Spurs enhances social chances of getting the job. Yeah. It does affect a thank you know, when I think he said pre-game, but the social Kamei himself, the number two choice. Now if anything between now and the end of season United. Would say, you know, what I don't care about anybody else. We won't this guy. The met would be remarkable. That would be remarkable like, I know it's tough to say right now. But I still think that that number one talk with Tino gotta go on and say like rash said this was different today. This was different. And he made a big change tactically positionally with Russia position. Lynn god. Now, that's that's tough to do when you've been going so well, and he said it interview on school philosophical situations. He did it to the first off it worked out rush. Scored a near the Spurs plays didn't when they had the opportunity so rush would of course, on the hair the main guys but social today with game plan particularly first off talks to him. What philosophical issues has been working on? That would be interesting to me calls. Macro goes over. He says take that strike with the outside of your boot. Okay. Also, what's your thoughts on Descartes? Could happen philosophical. He's right though. He's painted himself into the picture where he wasn't before. Yeah. Definitely. Let's talk about to heya 'cause he was obviously, I mean, this was as much of a man of the match performance as a keeper can can give you it was just one. Are you kidding me moment after another? It was more likely that a deflections was going to beat him. Something crazy. Are you know, someone gives away Lindelof are Phil Jones? These are gives away a penalty. Phil Jones fouls. Hurricane on that head or he's he's he's all over them. Any other place on the field? That is a free kick. It's just the I mean. Yeah, I was okay. I wasn't screaming for a penalty penalty for such a penalty. But anyway, Kane still got good contact, and yeah, he should've score should've buried it. Right. And also there was decision making like the Delhi chance whereas ruining through on gold. Why does he take that extra? Yeah. He's he's closing his own. I put himself in. A little too close. It was it was a game of chicken on day. Just read imperfectly look another day. That's two one three one. He's as good with his legs as any keeper I've ever seen. Yeah. On he he is thinking about some of the safety made like the one from out of her L. If he tries to go at that with his hand, it's lights underneath them. It's just brilliantly done. That's it's got to be just like how much how much is this instinct a lot of that's instinct, but it's also working on your work. I'm sure it has to be. Yeah. How about this stat? This has nothing to do with the Hayes skills. A keeper it has to do with my screaming at the television watching this game as this was all transpiring this blood pressure staff. Well it. Did you notice watching that game that he just took forever on every kickout? Yeah. Now, I actually have a number that can tell you how long he took this courtesy of Spurs statman on Twitter, forty five seconds. Oh, forty five seconds. Is that your guests? JJ nearly five percent of today's game. This was from over the weekend. Nearly five percent of today's game was spent waiting for data to take goal kicks ten goal kicks with an average of twenty six seconds per if that definitely came from the manager to four point eight one percent of the game was just spent waiting for him. But yeah. Var takes too long. Okay. But we'll spend five percent of game. Just watching guy stand there kickers boots against the ref Boca. Or even which was which was a tra- an abomination to refuse to get involved. They'll be talking about vire racial in books. I remember these really goalkeeper Lansdowne Road in a World Cup qualifier account. Remember the name? But what a clown. He did the same thing in a qualifier Artem went two-nil, Israel equalize and from two to onwards the guy soaked a life out of the game. In a way, I have never witnessed as bad as the Heo. This guy was on believable teeing up the bolts setting it on the grass thought took thirty five seconds alone. And I don't even mean it as like even if your tactics and husband if you're a neutral fan, though is like you wanna spend five percent of your game with that happening. I I blame the Spurs multiple boys in bulbs. They were off thrown. How dare you? They were on their game. I made specific notified quickly. They were getting the ball back in. I won't have that not on the show. I don't mean to take away from today though, he was phenomenal. Let's talk more about him now with one of our favorite guys to have on this program. Because anytime anything goalkeeper related comes up. You just lose your mind and start just like going through months of David priests tweets. Well, hang on. That's not true. And don't shame me in front of David price. We had David Preece on in the summer to discussing. Glint as well. So this isn't a new thing for us the point. It's a good point. He is one of our favorite guys to speak with you, hear them all over the place, various podcast, totally football show football weekly. I news talking about Warren can Brexit. And now he's on with us. David pre spec on the show, David what's up, man? How are you? Yeah. Of course, j just mentioned the World Cup. And I guess it's an interesting place to start in talking about David Hale for anyone who may be forgot how good of a keeper. He was after the World Cup where there was even talk of Spain maybe replacing him. I'd say that they were reminded over the weekend of just how great a player he is. I mean is he the best? I guess you could say the best in the league is the best in Europe right now. Do you know what? When when Vogel. Keep is now with about different styles and different saw Fluffy's house teams and nothing for his kind and far as style you see it's himself, and certainly on all black Madrid's the to keep is of that ilk. That's the the treat the moment. We know how how far goalkeeper his moved on sitting in the last five ten years as well. So it's all about the different styles. Just the same way of a predatory strike like said, you'll guero or you have an old round like dusky here, you have different styles. So it's it's sometimes it's still a little bit more difficult to compare. Now, you were talking stylistically, and I don't want to throw big Neville Southall into the conversation this early. But I think it's interesting. So I was listening to year ago on a wanna get your take on this Southall ranked lorries above Dahiya. For probably the very reason to heya stood out at the weekend was not he made so many saves with his feet, and he said that that is a marker of bad technique where I'm presuming you would disagree with that. Yeah. I mean, I don't know of you know, what? So how far removed Netherlands from from the game these days or whether we still caution Evan and somebody like some Nevoso volt school keep using, you know, the basics of goalkeeping never change. But I think just certainly a of the past few years as being a trend towards training, Sears with your faith. And and a mentioned this in the piece I did for for the times to that where it's the goal. Keep stunts. Traditionally where we we told I in Britain solve your feet solve. Shield with the part kinda gives you gives you know, a solid base. So you can you can get to everything where certain situations you have to throw with. And the fact that you have to try to get everything you try to put things in your favor. So if somebody's coming on angle one the one it's a very tight angle for them things in your favorite base. So if you cover the whole of the goal, you won't be you don't want to be so crouching down one of Huns all trying to to make sure gets out little Huns because should top plus school cat strike is all the opportune to lift the the roof of the net. Now, you've seen soja grabble due. Do. Hey, you've seen all the people. Do it's to to listen the season. And it's it's it's it's difficult fall for everything. So why not just give yourself a neutral position neutral position. And just just you. Feats to block the bowls that could I think it's just a mole efficient with saving it. And also when you get. And when you do get contact with the bowl, you more likely to get the ball out of being the with from the strike on combing. If you use your fate that's a harder surface to hidden to defeat the ball with them. The some of what I've been wondering about from having watched that game. And I don't mean this as a slight today, but how much of it was great goalkeeping and how much of it was just poor finishing this. I I was I'm kinda the man the same is people. Not what you've got. That's the routine saves. That's he was he was expected to make. I always think buck to USA against Belgium when the Tim Howard's middle sixteen saves, and he you know, he was loaded as a national hero where mitt to three saves extended him or the other than just routine saves this simple. I think with the Hayes. Before the weekend. You've taken without his position and decision. Making 'em was was perfect obsolete. Full all the way through the game. I think about that Toby out avails save he moves into position early up Naples. Daria time predict more school, hop happen and things in his failings Pia del from dividend. There was a big retirement news today. And I of course, check your Twitter. Like, Andrew says, I always do and you're little bit surprised that we're going to be saying goodbye to pet are check at this point. What shocked you about that announcement? Just the fuck. That's despite that's you know, kind of common misconception. That's you know, that this steep decline all the schools as I could still do a very good job full top sides, much primarily outside the premise league. He's still very sold a goalkeeper. And I think the criticisms of combs with less sitting three seasons being down to the to what's being them and the and the lack of consistency and stability in from them. And. I think that's a comb on defense, which was walk sold. Chelsea where when you choose jobs play a long time. But silly him in John Carey in so. -fensive disarray time to Chelsea and that doesn't really help them. It's all so I think you know, you you look the stocks still holds with with with the best keepers and top keep around you. And I think he could have done it. It's two full years. And it's credits him, maybe taking take step buck. Maybe it's a motivation thing maybe willing just to to sit in the background and be a really good for somebody else, which he could do full of three or four seasons. But again, he could play around forty fifty games as more problem puff the or the CVS head injury out news being look with the within long-term injuries. Anyway, it's interesting you say that about how his stats continue to match up with other gray keepers. Do you look at that? And think that maybe arsenal made a mistake in jumping the gun to replace that maybe some of that money on Leno could have been used on defenders. Instead, or did you see something and check where maybe he was. Deteriorating and shouldn't have been a number one anymore. No. I certainly think that's you know, a right choice to bring in competition for him. And so certainly if they want to successor, and as successive, and that was the right thing to do with a the knows the right choice. I'm still not to show not at boats. It's said it even with his feet. You know, he looked I think sometimes you looks uncomfortable. He looks bit cumbersome, and maybe not as fluid as many as you say these days and people forget, you know, he can't the goalkeeping in these teenage years, you've sent a full before that, of course, and pressure. They put in there. I would actually be again to his defense because some of the decisions that defends with tickets. It's possible Buckingham and positions. They take to receive the ball again is known existence. And you say the the it was uncomfortable as he was taking it. So it's that was. Was a bit Hauch and hopefully all the the criticism. His with David that we have you in our on the podcast right now is kind of timely seeing as where you're from. Everyone can tell your accent Sunderland till I is causing. I don't know what you call it a star over here, but people of being fascinated by it on net flicks. They've watched it. We've been getting a lottery action to it. And in the in the wake of Netflix drop in this series. There have been a few players come out Kevin Kilbane in particular has talked about the pressure of playing at Sunderland. And it's kind of curious because we don't see them up there as as a as a massive football club. Where pressure is everywhere. But I was just curious to get your take on that. Is it really that kind of hothouse of football up? There are the fans really that kind of almost intrusive and suffocating. You know, like of friends so who played for many sauce in the US left and whether they. They will coastal going supermarkets, you know, 'cause people the people just them and criticize them, and and I found throat my career, and you often find the best funds son being the worst the most go because there's no in between to basil and phenomenal show support. Sometimes the criticism can be exactly the same the opposite side as well. But I think what's what the guys that said full seventy produced. And directed if no stripped away, and what is that someone is about the funds? The biggest strengths of the club is its funds and the people of the e because it's you know, a Goldbach most weekends over and visit family of adult. Eliza barron. You know, the really great dealing someone's. It's a great town as good city with grid people. There isn't a great deal that it's a prosperous city as it once was so you take away that's football cooled and you take away Nissan, which which is the big of of jobs in the city. There's there was a great deal that and it's football Maine's Shula Butch area. You see in the in the savings that I think I came across well, and for me, I I should have been a, but actually I did a couple of told you hit interviews the at the start and. And I I just I just couldn't keep it open. You know, when when they dock, and so I couldn't I couldn't be there. And at the time when I was in order to have us come on things. He just wouldn't it could have been a real cau- crush and a real disaster for the club. But the said the fuck that focused on the funds and the people behind the scenes at the club thing. That's what she'll the great strength of. I'm here as you talk about, you know, people coming up to you in the grocery store and things like that you ever find yourself just pumping gas up in Sunderland. And a guy wants to criticize you for a goal, you let in I mean is that like a thing you could relate to from your time there shortly? Yeah. Me a the solve the ups and downs of of any play, you know, of, you know, equal through touches. And certainly when I was opened up at they know they were very similar funds. Abidine Scotland Ray, they you know, when I first went didn't time the tables and Kim my call on goal is. To what on the flipside? Remember, the first time I ever went to New York. I was in like they might be like a Virgin Megastore Times Square. My and deemed find came off things on he asked me for my autograph Times Square. The the funny thing was that of a few peel, rabble soul. And almost a sign about thirty autographs of to sign his autograph too. Because so many they must have thought I was somebody that was famous. So so for the young fun of a second Salah is my fifteen minutes famine in New York, I think are selling Aberdeen's fan base in New York short. It goes typically Yankee Aberdeen giants usually how it lays out. We'll thanks so much for joining us, man. We're always interested to pick your brain on all things go keep related and Sunderland related to soccer related David priests. Always thanks, man. So the story I was referring to Kevin Kilbane was that he would be in store in the shops. Just like David said and someone of thunder fan would look into his basket and go you don't wanna beaten that. But the best story he told was he was out with his wife for dinner, ours girlfriend at the time thing he's twenty one or twenty two and he sits in for dinner, and I don't know nice. The restaurant was but a Sunderland fan shakes his hand. And you think that's fine. Takes a picture. I don't think Kevin was that long at the club. And he sits beside kill ban and his girlfriend for twenty five minutes. All I kill ban was like why what do you do? And he couldn't he felt like he couldn't say anything to the fan. You kinda can't especially if you're young player at you've only just know he had a miserable time he had. He had only a few. I'd say Goodman's there. He did not enjoy time it sooner than he was much happier at Everton when he went there and the fans used to get on his back. But imagine that you're at dinner. What do you say people need to have some sense? They don't they feel as if they own you on Sunderland's one of those towns. So I heard all these stories coming out after Sunday's until I die in a hat to ask David. And he corroborated my evidence. Yeah. So our thanks to him has always loved catching up with him before we move on jayjay. I did want to mention about Tottenham because the big news today was that the MRI of hurricanes ankle came back. Is that the same ankle? He injured before the I'd have to look. All right. Okay. What? But the news was it was about as bad. I think as as could have been. Yeah. Did reveal ligament damage, and he's going to be out for at least a month. They're saying sometime in March the expected to return, which is a brutal blow to them not only because they're coming off a loss in a kind of a demoralizing loss against Manchester United. It's a brutal blow also because they're losing son to the Asian Cup. He was he left the club after the United game. They're still kind of dealing with. Injuries. Now. I know I think Eric dire is starting to train again. I think Victor Wanyama is getting closer to returning. But, you know, those guys aren't strikers and for sun and Cain to both be gone at the same time with some really important matches coming up you're talking about missing now, the Champions League matches against Borussia Dortmund, some presume in your intake goes no her then you can't sell them. I mean, it seemed like he was halfway out the door. Then he goes and scores thousand goals against Tranmere. Rovers and he works his way right back and disperse good graces, but they really don't have a choice now. And I don't know what they do. I mean as Delhi alley now expected to kind of move into more of an a central attacker spot is he gonna play up top with maybe Lucas Moore who missed the match over the weekend through injury himself is someone going to come into the club. You know, it's so funny. How? You're right. That's a natural thought for normal fan to have. But when you're fan of this club that like if somebody comes in. That's that is bonus that is extra credit that is not even like a flicker of thought in my head because of the way this club is now seemingly operating so on just looking at the guys who were there, and I guess it's going to be deli. Lucas Mora renting some sort of combination of those guys. You know, I loved Elliott alley. I love Lucas Mora. I don't think a ton of Fernando. You're anti at this stage in his career. I mean is this is this a group that like are they as Tino going to just have to change completely how they play when they're going to, you know, take on Dortmund. Can I put an M there? Sure. Who's being on the bench and being featured in squads trained with first team a bit put his I mean, super young Troy pirate. He does play center forward. All right. I mean, I saw some talk of Callum Wilson's name being thrown around from born Muth Eddie house says they're not gonna let him leave on. They'll hold is fake to the fire in a way. That would be which means that. It's nothing will come of it. Yeah. That's a name that I love that would be great. I think really highly of him. But man, this is just really really bad timing. It feels like they're in a bit of danger zone. Because look the I the price for them. Now is not like stop the talk about them being a part of a title race or whatever because they're not. And that's that's okay. But top four is essential. They have to like they're always going to be a club whose key players are in flux are they going to leave for Madrid. Or they gonna stay. If you want to have any hope of keeping these guys there needs to be Champions League football that new stadium next season. And if there's not it becomes harder to convince Ericsson not to go to Real Madrid or Pocchettino not to go to United. For him to Real Madrid. You know, it's this is this is like a dangerous time right now. I'm just thinking cheap. Strikers January who you going to get a throwback in my head. I just go right back to Louis Saja, and like names like that even got noise like this this generation, I mean that was kind of still this generation who's like a guy like that. What do you any? What's outta boy Oropesa? Yeah. Surely, we can get crouch e back in there. Right. You need someone. Yeah. I don't know. What do you think? I mean in my like, no, your this is serious. Right. It's it's it's extremely worrying. Because I mean, it's. All I can think of is does does daily alley. No placenta forward has. He the no st- is he can he score at the pet required. Because in the past when when came was injured last year, sewn came in on on did an unbelievable job to bridge that gap and son is not going to be there. So it's unbelievable. I don't know. I honestly think if they can make some kind of loan deal or do something they've got to go into the market. A really I feel that strongly. Boy, it's tough to go in though, when you're already when you operate the way they do. And now you're entering the market from a perspective of having no leverage at all nothing. What do you what do you do? Here's a trivia question for you. You mentioned Harry Kane and son to players who were leaving what percentage of Tottenham goals. Do you think they've scored this season sixty five percent? I mean, come on. Let's be real. It's forty seven percent neutered that question. I was going to say fifty and I thought oh he's asked because it's higher. I mean, I thought forty seven was high forty-sevens mockery of the whole thing. And now, we Lucas more knows your time. He was permanently player the month for the first month of the yet him get him down the Senate just needs to be healthy. That's the problem right now, we move on Spurs not the only club in north London. Going through a bit of a rough patch right now as arsenal lose a game. Yeah. I've got some things to say about this later in the podcast. I saved the arsenal chat because it's much more than the loss of west time. Oh, oh, my God much more than that with the international birthday. Boy Declan ROY scoring the winner. So are you saying that we we should table? This maybe table at yet because we can talk about Arsenal's woes later on in the podcast. I wouldn't want to upset the flow. This is what what do I do is unprecedented down has been invaded. I don't know. I guess we know too much snow stuff. At the end rake go to break, everyone go to break. Bye. Eight. His. Crossed the cycling. Say. The fate of because. Delhi? Sorry. Did we not spend enough time on that earlier? We had to relive those saves any excuse for me to get a bit of chemical brothers in there. Arlo white on the call way. Did you see I thought it was actually really cool what they did on Saturday. Oh here he comes. I'm Jay Jay soccer is a sport to be taken. Seriously. If you're trying to have fun. You're wrong business. They did the thing where they go on the mopeds between the grown awesome target done at grit guys school. All the content all for the clicks. The back of a moped. I'm lead. What brings you joy in life this being an act snark. I know that's not you have a mailbag. We do to soccer pod caught off site. Pottage Email dot com. It's not very timely opener. Sean Roden with Harry Kane out to Maritz, you think Spurs should go out and pick up shit retail. And do you believe he could thrive under potch? There's no way West Ham are going to give Shittu retail to Spurs. This is not happening, and he's agreed terms. With valencia. I'm West Ham of blocked that move as well. So Chitra he'll going anywhere. We'll probably have a lot more to do with what happens with Markle and out of each whose brother has come out and told him how he would very much like to go to China to the Chinese Super League to win titles, which is. Which is. Can you? I'm sorry. Can you say that one more time I America out of its his brother wants Marco to go to China to win titles? All right. Sam narrow more love the pot, and I have two questions for you. I'm an avid fan of football. And I've always been a supporter for Barron Munich never fully committed to an English team. First question moving to New York on the twenty third. I'm wanted to know where you guys recommend to watch my football games. Preferrably a place that has the English pub kind of ambience the barley corn don't own is a very good one. It's an arsenal bar. But it's got that ambience. I always say Caraher is because the food is good, and you can go in there when Liverpool aren't playing and it still it's still good legends football factory. Yeah. I've always enjoyed Baker street Baker street and his another good place. Good food to second question. If Thomas motor were to leave Barron and go to one of the big sixty PL teams, which team do you think he would most help? Well. Golly. This is just like a Spurs trace seriously, though, I can't think of anyone more perfect for just like, I know he's kind of been, you know, off his game slightly from what Byron fans are probably used to. But God would kill for him right now. I think they're win percentages is highest when he plays deal. So ROY love the podcast. It's something I look forward to as I drive home. Not knowing grit deal about MLS your analysis resulted in me, no taking a greater interest. This is a bonus on top of your European analysis. 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And he has them top of the EFL league one. But we don't. What setting it's on? So we don't know we record on Tuesday or Wednesday or sometimes the Thursday or maybe it's a Monday. I mean, it's like a friend of mine had a dog, and it's it's kind of sad. But the dog got something in his eye and had to lose his eye. And so when my friend told us that we were like, oh my God. That's that's awful, and my friend tried to justify it by saying, oh, it's really not that big a deal just like picture me. If I only had one eye and some hair over it. And I was like would be incredibly Jordan. Oh, I don't know about the point of that. Joel bronze sent us a picture from Wembley at the weekend. He was at the game. He sent his to really nice pictures one from outside the ground and one from inside the ground ice. I Andrea million. Osceola soccer pot, incoming red card play precise. Please for the political musings of Mr. Neil Warnock. I don't know why politicians don't do what the country wanted if I'm only the referendum. You know? And now we see different politicians and everybody else trying to Fulton it way Reaser said again behind you know, what did we have a referendum in the first place? I can't wait to get out of them. If I'm honest, I think we'll be better out to the bloody thing in every aspect tell with the rest of the world. Football watch as well. Yeah. Absolutely. This is a man if you haven't seen the video footage. This is a man saying to hell with the rest of the world while beside behind him is a sign thing. Visit malaysia. I want Neil Warnock to go and compare his pay packet now at Cardiff from what it was at Sheffield United when he came up twelve years ago, I would say dollars to donuts he is doing a lot better now through the TV deal, which has come about by the massive interest worldwide in the Premier League. And because some of the best players in the world can play there. This idea that England and English football will be better. If we fall his out, send them home is nonsense on the air talking about quotas. Andrew quotas on Premier League teams it can only damage the game. But that was new Warnaco Brexit, boy, he has really become a shockingly prevalent fixture on this show the last Larry we he is wormed his way in and we can't get rid of like who knew three weeks ago when when we talked about his comments about Spurs, and Wembley and the new stadium that like that would now become like the first of many weeks in a row where he would say something ridiculous. It's not political for me if he. Voted Brexit for Brexit for leave and bats his position. That's fine. My issue is that your soul blind to what you know, the influx of foreign players on the global game. You can't tell the world to bugger off. Well, apparently, you can well, maybe you can't you're Neil Warnock. We got so many tweets over this. Basically this is Lampert. Jared. Watch spy gate addition. On a keeping an eye on. Leaves United had a very good tune victory over Franklin Pierce, Derby County, but the lead into the game was overshadowed by spy gate, Andrew Bella check in really, Bella check in style tactics. Where Marcelo Bielsa who apparently has used this as common practice throughout his career in management sent a spy to county training ground to watch them train into film and record them and Frank was not best pleased about this in that spoke to Conor McNamara of the BB of BBC radio five live about the whole thing. When the so it's met earlier in the season back in August USA spec. Your club suspected that. There was someone supervising your training inspiring interfering with US Davis. I'm guy was. Kitman sewer line in in the Bush's film in China. You've played big teams in this country, you flayed abroad as well. Have you ever heard of anything like this before? No, not really I'm innocent people on positive emotion on information. I've never heard of training ground move ends. And as replies broke into private land to shine. And I'm not heard of that minute. He's been doing this since he was manager of Argentina. I mean years and years and years splaying position. Well, yeah. So. Mike what you will how much we walk about this. Because for me. It's not right. And i'm. A big fan from the follow of Baosteel book from room. Baseline cloudy today. But. That's how uprise. Then that's how he does it. So yeah, really strange not a common practice in English football. I would imagine the dissemination of information from Toco, I'm sure goes on. I'm sure people know somebody might give them a call while of being like. Leads are always beat leads are always beaten Darby. They were so much better. Frank manpower was magnanimous after the game. He said we did not play well enough and leads were much much better than those as they were in the first game when they wouldn't four one. But it's it's still it's not ethically grit to for be able to do this the if EFL of launch an investigation, they're not one hundred percent sure if he's broken any rules, but it's kinda not in the hosiery put it the spirit of the game in England to do something like this, or at least not to send a spy in that manner. I mean, what are you like, what are you seeing set-pieces free kick routines? You're also probably seeing that as Lampard said before pre-match before the game will how're you Wilson's not gonna play for us. So they would have noticed that probably would have known that. I mean, it just seems so insane to like send a guy into the bushes with pliers cutting through fences. Like what what is this? Don't pretend like it didn't happen in this country. And it was insane. When the patriots were had cameras set up around stadiums to spy on signals like this is this like bonkers territory is that for the mail one. Final thing. Harry Wilson tweets us Austin just got their team in MLS. It's looking pretty grim for me in Detroit who will get the remaining spot in your guys opinion. First of all. Austin did get their their spot. Those in announcement would Precourt Garber and Alexi Lalas was there and the whole thing, and it was a glowing crest which was very nice on good for Austin. I would say to Harry Wilson, you have got a team who are going to be playing in the NPS L pro very soon come on like, I know, you know, what he's asking though, all I'm not going to get my big shiny fancy molesting go support them until you do get one. But this might have been their best chance. I don't know. I don't act like he's an ingrate for asking a question. Like that that I'm sure there's cities across the country who also love to have an MLS team Detroit of a really cool thing going on there. But he wants it's not absurd to wanna chance to have that team compete at the highest level. How can you not see that? I just I they play friendly games against European sides. They put listen to your ten thousand people regularly at Detroit Kim's, that's pretty cool, man. That's a that's grown level. I'm not saying, it's not cool. But I completely understand his desire to take that to the next level. And have those those kind of atmospheres be repeated against the likes of L AFC in the Sounders and Portland like how. You're you're being just willy. Insta- institute horse support your local clubs. We always we always, you know, push people to want to do that. But so don't have been Harry Wilson was it's a great question. I'm sorry. That JJ didn't take time for a team that doesn't exist. Put your money where your mouth is going to support your local team and also campaigned institute promotion relegation, then you can get to play the Seattle's you didn't tell me that. This question was coming. But off the top of my head who the other cities in contention sent Louis Nashville Louis. Sorry, louis. Yeah. I'm trying. I'm trying to remember. Now. I know that with Austin getting a club. It seemed like San Antonio was probably off the table Phoenix with the Phoenix rising. I feel like I'm forgetting an obvious one. I don't know if I remember it. I'll say it before the end of the show. But yeah, that's a fine question at CO soccer pot on Twitter caught off side pot. gmaiLcom JJ have a what to watch for. But it's very quick if you have something on any of these games. Stop me Liverpool. Crystal Palace liberal. With their one no victory. Maintain four points up yet. Let's see Saturday twelve thirty arsenal. And Chelsea I won't say much because I guess apparently we have more stuff on arsenal. That is yet to come was a lot of news today. That's off the field. But not good Sunday. Eight thirty AM Huddersfield town in Manchester City, JJ, David Wagner, by mutual consent is no longer Huddersfield town's manager, and you just you just can't help. But wonder what if what if this had happened say five months ago, but you would want the US men's national team playing the style of football Huddersfield plan this season or even lassie's? I mean, maybe they play that style because they have handicapped, and, you know, look certain he did a good job with a what not much resources. Yeah. And I think that you know, even though things were going poorly. The fact that not only did he gain promotion with them, but manage to keep them up. I think that it wasn't. He will forever be a revered figure there that was America last few games at the end. The last season. Incredible. The point at Chelsea I remember watching that game thinking, this is this is such a box of the wall effort. I wonder where he goes now what what is his future? He is in the Marco Silva category where he will get a job, and maybe even a lower tier top-flight job again because he's got such good reputation for working the Ourika with very little Sunday eleven AM Fulham and Tottenham JJ. Did you see who just signed at Fulham crazy Ryan bobble? What's crazy is that he's only thirty two because I feel like if you told me it was fifty two I probably would believe ten years almost outside of the Premier League after he left the and went on this kind of wandering journey. He's been signed from Besiktas Turkey. Look you've seen him, particularly when he's been on your screens for the Dutch national team in those friendly games and and nations the games he he's a good player. But Andrea if you were making a short list of guys to help get this team out of the mire. He would not be honest. No. And you know, clearly there there is this feeling of sort of like grasping at straws here. And it's kind of a hate to go back on things I said before the season, but it's kind of the way Fulham operated in the summer transfer window big names names of people familiar with Andre Shirlow, L Calum chambers. Like, I don't know if this is like that, by the way, let's just speak while we can about surely goal tweaking that goal a give it goal of the season. They own believable technique to take Puc that bowl from this going volley it into the top corner. The fact that he's knocking wrong to relegation team is bizarre second minute. And then how do they go and lose it? Just feels like it's it's the story of foam season two own goals in the span of three minutes. Only had no shot on Harrogate. You gotta fan, sport wise. That's that's that's winning. The burn leeway and league JJ Saturday ten fifteen AMRO Madrid and severe with Real Madrid looking up at severe right now Madrid fourths Avia are in third. They are tied on points. So this could be moving day for Madrid as they looked to inch their way up closer and closer. I don't look I'm never going to foresee a path to them catching Barcelona. But I don't know if they care about finishing second. It's just a weird optic to look at that table. See them in fourth. I don't know. I guess if there's any fear of them finishing outside a champions like top four place because Alvis is right behind Real Madrid. Just a point back. So yeah, that's Saturday. Ten fifteen AM should be a fun one red card. Can I go I hear you may? Okay. My red card goes to Murchio sorry manager of Chelsea a few days ago. He was talking and discussing his disdain for VAR fine. Whatever that's not what this about. Disagree. But whatever, but he was then asked about how he felt it performed in the World Cup which prompted this response. Sorry says quote, I didn't see anything in the World Cup. I didn't see a match in the World Cup. I don't like the national team because there isn't anything to learn. It is usual position every coach thinks like me, it is unusual to say it it is impossible to arrange a team very well in thirty days every team in the world. Couple lose against the top level club teams in every match. I think that is normal because in a club you have time to organize a team. But in the national team, you have no time. So it is very difficult to see an organized team in the euros or the World Cup. What joyless arrogant? I'm joyless comment. Okay. Fine. You're smarter than all of us little peons who enjoy the World Cup for the sheer fun of us. Brainless fools who don't know our foot from our face to think JJ that we would watch soccer for reasons other than gaining knowledge, and maybe just fun and like patriotism, and you know, just the World Cup is fun. But no one is calling it the the the elite soccer competition, by the way to Rangatira in thirty days. That's half the fun of it. That's point throws up results like Belgium, three Japan to like. Yeah. This. Thank you. This is not a revolutionary comet. We all understand this. But like to to think that like there's nothing to be taken from the World Cup. I don't believe that either. I just thought I was him being cornered 'cause vire worked quite wet at the world, and that's same cornered. And he's gotta get outta here and say, I didn't watch it. I hate international. Soccer. What have I said? Now, I don't know you seem pretty convincing to me. But like it's joyless feels like a guy who's like jaded, and you know, on his shouldn't be because he I mean, it's only twenty years ago. He was a Bank manager is he that guy in a room. Like, if I were to pull out like, you know, I love like a kit Kat bar, and like IBM join it and you'd say like all man that looks good. Can I have one and he'd be over there saying, you know, how many calories are in that? He's just that guy. He shouldn't be that guy because he left banking the boringest job to be a full-time coach and has been very successful. He should be full of the joys spring. Yeah. What do you got? Oh, arsenal arsenal arsenal. Great work reporting. From some ESPN heads today, according to Rafeh, honing Stein arsenal head of recruitment Sven, MS tat is on the way out the door after only year in the role. He had been appointed by Ivan Gazeta's who has no at Milan former head of football relations, rose and alleys. Was promoted to head of football with business dot reporting directly to him according to sources, sin deformed, director of football up our Sloan favorite recruitment policy based on his extensive network of context throughout Europe. When business dot had been tasked by ZD's to follow the kind of analytical and stats based approach. That's all nineteen year old midfielder Mattia newsy joined from French second division job Laurie. Twenty two year old Uruguayan international. Lucas Tara a rifle from some Doria, both of whom have been successes in my view and double-whammy Gabrielle McCarty almost Symon taniwha dropped this article explaining why Amri said rather curiously last week that he could only make loan signings. In January and short refers to the decisions made last January on the money pumped into signing a bomb Yang McAteer Jons contract and re signing Ozil only one of the three of these moves have worked out, and it's a three year plan. That's going to see them hemorrhage one hundred fifty nine million dollar and if they sell os. Zil? They're never getting back the value. No, no. These guys are all in their late twenties. And that's why Aren Ramsey had to go. So you're looking at this here. I am re has no honeymoon period. He what he has I guess, but he's going to have to make the best of this. And this challenge for top four with what he's got. He's going to have to prove himself as a top manager this pretty dire stuff. These contracts are not nearly in their final stages. That's a lot of money to go out. When will ask they'll be able to sell again on a point that's made by Gabrielle Mikati in his piece is that it's not like cranky, flashed the cash, even when they have a lot of money. This is yes, it's bad you want. If you watch that team against West Ham at the weekend. They are short three four five defenders, maybe you wouldn't have necessarily thought. Now, I know that those are big name players. But like would you have thought that it would debilitate the club for at least a year moving forward? The money is owned believable the wages. I'm by the way, they only hear about his movie money being injected into clubs and arsenal. Or one of the richest clubs in the world. I mean, but there within the I guess they're operating within the constraints of of of the club itself of what the owner wants to do on. This just doesn't jive also was interro nine million. And he wanted twenty million a year, and they gave him close to that. According to the article. He doesn't play it's wild. It's obsolete. Oil and you're wondering if he's going to get the crack of the whip he thought he'd get up the club doesn't doesn't seem like it right now caught off sides man of the match JJ. My man of the match is Petter check. We talked about him a little bit earlier with David Preece, but I've got some more and we're gonna play. Check trivia dots. That's unfair. Why these are all with the exception of maybe one of these. These are eminently get I'm just not in. Okay. Go on. I have read known of the of going to say eulogies to check. He's not dead. But I've I've read known of the the tributes to him. So I'm not up on my stats. He will be retiring at the end of the season, by the way, this is not an immediate retirement. He's gonna play the rest of the year. All right here, we go check has two hundred and two clean sheets all time. That's most in primarily history. Who's number two on that list? Peter schmeichel. No, David, James. David James played till he was forty across how many jobs as they say in baseball. He's a compiler who are you mad at he's a compiler number two better. Check is one the primer league's golden gloves award four times. It's the award given out for keeper with the most clean sheets and a season this award started in oh four oh five by the way. I should say that could help you that can help you. He's won this award four times. One other keeper has also wanted four times. Can you name that keeper? A little tricky. Now vendors are no now when you say it's not like, what am I supposed to do with that? Is that your answer? Or are you cheating on I? Joe hart. Joe hard, by the way, Burnley have one three on the bounce. It's been drawn just saying number three Pedder check. Where's protective headgear? Of course after scary collision with this player from back in two thousand six Stephen hones. That's correct of reading accident. Marino called him a wolf you're on the board number four Chelsea signed Pedder check from this French club in two thousand four who know that. I don't know Ren stat Ren Ren. And last, but not least JJ Chelsea defeated Byron Munich on penalties in the two thousand twelve Champions League final check play the role of hero in this game saving one penalty in extra-time and another one in the penalty. Shootout. Can you name the Byron players who had those penalties? Safe muller? No rebury, no sake. Oh god. Sick leave retr- drew. The penalty wasn't Twining. He missed in the penalty shoot up. It wasn't wasn't say. All right. I'm blanking. So in extra-time redrew penalty drug, but took down rebury iron Robin had his penalty save. It was a meek pathetic attempt. Oh that was it was a dribbler wasn't. It was awful. And then in the penalty shootout if each oldish had his penalty sale, right? I remember that. No. Yeah. There you go Petrocelli trivia you did. Well, I had a lot of trivia surrounding the question, but not the actual I love when you say, it's not Vander Sar like, okay. Hey, what do you have my man in a matches United States, youth international? Charlie Kelman who scored from inside his own half on his professional debut in England playing for Southend and the third tier which is league one cattleman lob. He didn't lob I'm reading from an ESPN ours. I mean, it's not a way line. It's hard to call. It a lot. He absolutely painted, right? Over the Plymouth goalkeeper in the second minute of stoppage time if you could write a goal a spectacular goal in your debut that will be but it wasn't enough to prevent south losing three two on Saturday. This into the audio. There's no commentary the best thing about this is the thwacks of when he hits the ball. You can tell. Good for you. Seventeen own believable. What a story. Well, here we go. Now, a new young player for us to be obsessed with. Yeah. 'cause you're gonna start watching league will and maybe I will chance. Absolutely. You know about it, by the way, the goalkeeper did not cover himself and glory. But but did he lose sight of the ball like his dive at the end where are you guys doing? But you're not remember Steve Harper when job Alonzo did his from the halfway that was pathetic too. I mean, usually like if a guy is going to score from the halfway line beyond like, a goalkeeper never really going to cover himself glory. Well, no Beckham nailed Neil Sullivan. That was perfect. There was no comedy dive Beckham's just measured at perfectly the one that I felt always felt bad for. I don't when Tim Howard scored his the way the wind took that ball. And just like put it over hired Robinson. Wasn't it? Was it Paul Raut? No Paul Robinson scored. Well, he scored excuse me. Here was I got the hot here. We'll listen to it. See this. Don't. Who take the? That was ridiculous. Yeah. I mean, it was got us did. Yeah. And to Howard's credit. He like he almost looked angry and said afterwards his he had been on the other side of that once before. So he knows how it felt. So he wasn't going to celebrate. So. Yeah, there there you have it. It's it's the goalkeepers union. They just wanna look after each other, which which is kind of nice. Hey, that's it my friend beefy beefy podcast. Yeah. Really was I enjoyed it thoroughly. I hope all of you out there as well. Remember, if you get the chance rating us on I tunes goes a long way if you wanna get on there and give us a little five stars can only help and people have been doing that. Really? But yeah, it's been very nice, very nice. I would like more much more demanding. But I do appreciate it also, my friend. I'm going to demand. One thing of you. You can't stall on this rap battle no longer. What about battle is happening next week? No one is asking for absolutely known as. Yeah. But maybe we should take that as a sign we're doing it full are not shy about telling us what they want us to do. And no one cares about this. All right. Well, are you going to set a challenge for them or you're gonna say like, no some kind of likes? We'll look we said, we'd do it will do it. But I'm not in any rush, quite frankly. All right. Are you? Well, I've got some nice Brennan Rogers look up the two of us only one has provided this he PL back more. So don't make it seem like I'm dodging. You are recording artists technically, hey, this was fun my friend enjoy games the rest of the week. There's an FA Cup replay tomorrow Newcastle today, by the way at bears mentioning which is good for them a bit of joy Tyne. Yup. To you. I say take take care. Listening to cod off-side soccer podcast.

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Ted Lasso | Season 2 Episode 1 Recap: Goodbye Earl

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Ted Lasso | Season 2 Episode 1 Recap: Goodbye Earl

"Support for this. Podcast comes from invent together. I bet you didn't know that inventing activity by black inventors peaked in eighteen ninety nine and it has never recovered black and hispanic college graduates patented half the rate of white college graduates. That's just one of the reasons why you need to know about invent together. When our patent system gets more diverse our nation will get stronger and more successful. Find out how you can help. Diverse inventors and unleash economic opportunity at invent together dot org Turn al's podcast is life. Podcast is death but also podcast is podcast but mostly podcast lay it. Ted lasso podcastone poacher. Recaps you'd better believe. I'm josh wigley. I'm joined here by antonio missouri. Welcome to our ted lasco's season to talk. It's so nice to be here. I cannot believe we are talking about new episodes of ted. Lasso is so frustrating. Josh that we can't just do what we did earlier in this season of this podcast and cover all of this season at once. I'm looking forward to spending each week with you. Here post show recaps talking about these episodes. May the force be with you antenna also with you josh spirit and i said oh my god so much to talk about as ted lasso has returned officially with season to goodbye earl is the season. Two premiere of ted laso directed by declan lowney. A written by brendan hunt. Aka coach beard gets the honors. Stay antonio that. Danny rojas killed the dog. You could assign that to coach. Beard considering brendan hunt wrote the episode. Someone killed a dog. Yeah in the in the room or on the on the pitch someone killed a dog. And i cannot believe that that is the sentence one minute and thirty seconds to this podcast i. I would not have put any money on that. The odds would have been quite long on ted last season two beginning with the death of a dog and yet here we are the old yeller episode. My god right alert for all. Yeah right at the gate. Yeah i love. I love magic like all the people including ourselves who i tried to sell people on checking out ted last if they hadn't done art again so positive it's uplifting show. I was talking to my mom about it earlier as a mom like. This isn't one of those shows or you got to put your hands over your eyes. All the shows that. I always recommend that are so scary. Gonna be fine. And then goodbye earl. The first two minutes of the game and of course we open on an i. Antoni we opened. And i because of course on an i and we have opened up season. Two we're going to be here for twelve weeks. Twelve episodes of ted lasso season to a long journey along season. Hopefully it's not just gonna be ties all along the way because i don't like business casual. I prefer to wear my sweatpants to work But until they break this tie antonio. I'm going to be buttoned up as As i'm sure you are as well Talking about ted last so season to here in post show recaps podcasts. Dropping on mondays in our ted laso podcast feed which is now available. Wherever you get your podcasts. Make sure you subscribe to the lasso. Podcasts on post show recaps right now especially your ratings and reviews greatly appreciated as we are hoping to draw more people into our community. Were so excited about this podcast. We think we've got a lot of fun insightful. Ridiculous things to say about the show. We hope that you are going to join us for the rides. A sign up to feed and be in touch with us on twitter as well. I'm at round towered. Antonio's at ac massaro. How many how many ours. Tuesay's one are very thankful for everyone who has subscribed who has shared our links who has re tweeted posted all of those things early season especially when people are looking for a podcast dig into for their new favorite show that they binged over sometime in the last nine months. This is a great way to have our show pop at the top of the charts. And we really do appreciate that truly. It's a very small thing you can do to subscribe like share et cetera. But it means the world to us and it really does help expand the conversation which is for me unlike really can't something that i'm very invested in because i think this is a show that is worth the bladder. It's worth all the chatter that we can put into it. It's worth the talk. It is interesting josh. We talked about this. On one of our earlier episodes in this feed we usually talk about prestige. Tv these one hour dramas ones that have a lot of meat on the bones in terms of speculation of story and things like that. But i think ted laso is just as deserving in many respects an infant some ways even more but it will be very interesting to unpack it real time with you as we will do throughout the season to kind of where we might be going with this season. What seeds are being planning to think. A lot of them were planted in this episode. There were a lot of moving chess pieces around the board. Like we'd like to see in. Tv shows setting up things for the season. I definitely want to talk about some of the things that jumped out to me. In that regard. I want to hear from you. Some of the things that jumped out to you in that way as well all right. Well let's waste no time what's hot right into it and let's start kind of like broadview top down this being the top down this being the first episode that we get a season two were starting midseason right seven ties so far. I believe they've they've drawn their last six games. We see the seventh draw as afc richman fighting through. Do we call this. Still there in relegation. Is that still. What's going on. Or they relegated. They were relegated. The active relegation of them being demoted. Relegation bird yes. The relegation has occurred there now in what is called and they make a joke about this in the first season the second division of english football is called the championship it is the the championship is the second division of the english football pyramid. The third division is called league one which is hilarious because it's the third division in an on down the pyramid so they are in the second division of english football the second tier which in and of itself is still a very competitive very difficult league. We talked about previously so. It's no surprise that richmond. Having dropped from the premier league would be in the position. They're in their form is a little bit dodgy. And they're going to have to make up for something. And that's that's the team we find ourselves cast into. We're you satisfied with the time jumper. Would you have preferred to see this kickoff from the beginning of this. I'm not mad at it. I think like you know if if if there are things that i'm bummed about like i would've loved to have seen roy. Kens legendary retirement speech somehow. We're going to see it somehow. Somehow i feel like we won't be deprived that the guns going to go off before the third act. I would say you know. I think that that's fine. I think like one of the things. That's very clear about this episode. Is the character dynamics which were already. Like deeply earned across those first ten episodes. Ted laso are just all that more established here in the season two premiere. The aforementioned may the force be with you and also with you moment Between ted and higgins just like speaks to just like the very easy friendship that they really have now at this point the fact that that happens in rebecca's office in full view of rebecca without her batting an eye and in fact just being like locked into her phone with keeley as she and keely. Are we talking about setting up a double date with john wings. Night who i thought was john wayne's night who would be very different guy you know there's just like a lot of like clear built in chemistry between the characters right now that i think i'm grateful for so that we can get to wherever these relationships need to go next. I don't think i needed to pick up immediately after the season. One finale. I think it is useful that we are where we are at this. Point like nate. Who has just been elevated to being part of the coaching staff to have him a little bit more confident to the point of being kind of addict to his replacement. Like i think that's useful. I think that's helpful. I think You know cutting through a little bit of the lake. Ted can like. I can't believe you've stayed on the team. Like whatever kind of backlash could've existed within the community though i think it probably would have been very light. Seems like he's won everybody over like let's move past that let's get into what matters. I'm really good but the time jump. How about yourself. Definitely for all the reasons that you said. It's always brave when a show or any kind of product the film especially There's a lot less real estate there. So it's always super brave when we see a massive time jump and it can lead to a lot of interesting dramatic propositions Things that you're talking about the ways characters have changed in subtle ways other thing for example. Nate always had that in. That was a running joke director first season but it was. He was scared of it. The burn letter that he read. Yes yes the snake yeah. The library was opened for nate. Yeah there was reading that was occurring and so that was that was always in him but he was a little scared of it. He doesn't seem to be scared of it anymore. It seems to be default. And of course this is something that's going to be dealt with. Throughout the course of the season we wouldn't be introducing it the way in which we did in this episode. Were it not so it is. It's always good to see that they had a plan. They move things ahead and they will deliver a long ways of that plan. It does feel like we're missing. a little. bit of the emotional fallout from everything. I know you're saying you let me just good with everybody. Rebecca's interphone i think what we're dealing with. The isn't that we're going to have moved on from that and we won't have to deal with it. I think what we're going to see in this. The especially with the roy candidate all is. I think we're just far enough ahead. Maybe it's a few months. I think that just the way it would time out with. Having played seven matches and knowing the way the soccer the football schedule works. It's probably five months in the future. Maybe somewhere in that the net realm From the last season. So i think we're going to. We're meeting these characters five months later and they probably haven't processed everything and how they're going to process what was what happened in that five months and what happened at the end of last season. And what happens to them. As a result of the things they're doing now having not fully processed that stuff that will be the thrust of this season. So i'm fine with it. It will be interesting. You know they could've skipped just a few months and started the first season. It will be interesting as we go. Further into ted so into season three perhaps beyond if they changed their plan will they always do a time jump will they just sometimes skip the summer other other things they can do so i think it was. It gives them a lot of opportunity. I do think some people were a little taken aback by some of the seeming changes. Especially like with nate But i think it's all in service of what we're gonna do over the course of this season but mainly i think the emotional baggage that ted especially as carrying around is really interesting to see in action. Here it's more subtle. Obviously in terms of how he pushes back against the therapy. Especially but that's the sort of thing that we just feel like we yada yada and skipped over and obviously it's just under the surface. It's not something that was fully processed we didn't turn the page and these characters are better and reset. They have been changed by what happened in season one and they've been changed by what happened in the months previous two when we started the series and they were going to see how those changes play out over the course of the series. So i am okay with it. I'm excited. I'm definitely excited. Let me ask you this though So i think one of the things about the pilot of the show. Is it really just very cleanly and clearly announces the premise of the series and the intentions of the series. And it's throwing you in to. Ted is a character and his very unusual circumstances in the uphill battle. He and coach beard have to win over the people surrounding. Afc richmond both in the club and outside of it And i feel like it. Just it launches you into a story arc in like a very deliberate way in a way that like you're just in the car with them In the in the in in like nate's tiny car alongside alongside laso and beard d- you feel that same energy in season two. Because i don't i don't know that i feel it in that same way i think like you're saying i think there's a lot of subtle work that's going on here. There are ways in which antonio i felt like this episode felt almost more standard sitcom e than we've gotten from ted last so in the past. I don't know if i'm on an on an island with with with that feeling. But i'd be curious like do you feel like this episode. Gave us like a thesis statement. For what the season is going to be about. I think the pilot did that so clearly. Did the season two premiere do that as clearly or are we saying that the pilot did it so clearly because we have the benefit of having watched the entire season now. We have to wait eleven weeks to figure out how season who's gonna go. I think it's a little bit of that. I think it's a little bit that the premise of season one was a lot. Easier is a lot not not as messy. It was a very simple fish out of water story. And the explanation about why fish chose to leave the water and what the water really was This is water like that. All was i think a lot cleaner than where we are. Now which is that okay. The fishes adjusted a little bit to the new surroundings. But let's talk about how the surroundings have changed the fish or how fish needs to change in order to continue to swim in this water. And i think that is a lot more complicated of a premise or of something. They're going to deal within this season. Then they had to deal with in setting up the pilot. The pilot is a proof of concept in many respects The idea of course of this ted lasso character when it was originally conceived in the ads it was a little more straightforward a little more. Just obviously kind of a boorish brash inconsiderate american coming to another country and coming to another country's beloved game and just being american about this show i think has a lot more to say about the view of americans in the world and ted. Lhasa was sort of our last clear chance. Or maybe our best our best people that we're sending out there. But i think it would be foolish as we enter a second season of ted lasso especially as we enter a third season of lasso to look at ted lasso. Is this perfect example of how you can just be so perfect and so positive and everything will work out for you because the reality of the world of course yes. We need to be positive. Yes we need to pursue all things last so does and yes. We need to engage in the way ted. Lasso does but it's not always going to work and we need to have something to fall back on so that doesn't come crashing down on us like a house of cards and i do think that's a different show by the way i do. Think that Which begins with the death of a dog. if i'm not at least one of the seasons does yes. I believe that is true. Time we talk about house of cards. Let's not be the last time to talk about the death of a dock. Revisit that yes listen they killed a cat and these what i'll offscreen mean. This was off screen but yeah exactly. It wasn't off scream though because we heard the noise. Yes but but generally speaking. I think when you're talking about. Ted lasso i think the mission statement of the season becomes a little more clear when you think about okay. Things didn't work out for ten. Like here's positively in his. Never say die attitude. They died like they got relegated and they did not achieve the goal that they set out to achieve and the the great irony of course is that they did so. Because ted got through jamie tart because he made the extra pass because that actually worked in. Ted's positively did work. It worked against him. And maybe that's the same thing to be said about ted's marriage or there's things that aren't save -able with this attitude and so i like that. We put that sort of center stage with regard to everything. That's happening with danny row house. Everything that's happening with new characters like sharon fieldstone. I'm sorry doctor. Sharon fieldstone not dock at plans. Everything that's coming into play there. I think really sets up the season to show that ted lasso. It isn't just that you can be positive all the time. You have to be sturdy. You have to have a foundation allows that positively to shine and does not allow you to let the wind be taken out of those sales you have to be willing to respond to adversity or able to respond to adversity. And what do you do when you're positive person. And the adversity you get is such that you're positively is truly challenged. I think that's why it had to be a dog. That's why it had to be something so outrageous at the beginning of this season Because it is the likely universal universal force right it is the equal and opposite reaction. Tad lasso the character. This is the sort of thing that even ted lasso cannot overcome. Even ted lasso cannot undo like this is a horrible horrible thing that happens and it has to be so horrible to place it in a position. Where ted ted does not work and so. I think that is an interesting thing that we really introduced in this episode. I didn't love the first. Maybe fifteen or twenty minutes as much as i did the second half of the episode which i saw really started to deliver on that front. And that's where i'm really excited about. I'm really excited about the second. Half of this episode and what it says about the season so we definitely talk about everything that was set up. But i do think that this episode. We will look back on this and say okay the themes pretty exactly But i do know that. God there definitely has been like Feedback i loved the episode. Certain things. I didn't care for I wanna give some voice to some of that. Of course you can always send us feedback. Ted lasso at her show. Recaps dot com. You can also interact with us in our ted laso channel and the po- show recaps patron discord. Really fun community there. Patriotic dot com slash pusher. Recaps if you are so inclined. Undis- came away from grace grace. It's that i've really loved the episode but really hated the opening scene. The whole dog stuff felt really cheesy and not really tone of the rest of the show danny could have easily missed the shot on his own and go through the same sort of story arc on and i think to your point to lake. Why does the show need to go here. I think it is. It is a really compelling idea that like something as traumatic as this something as as dark as this like the the the death of man's best friend in such like a senseless way in such like. It's a freak accident kind of away. Like ted lassos. Positively alone is not going to be able to conquer that. And right or danny row houses. Exactly yeah for this to happen to like the boast positive person on this show second to and perhaps even beyond ted lasso. Himself and danny row house is not accidental. And i think to have that that. Like i think That energy colliding with such a dark event from football is life to football is death. I think is necessary If not if not necessary in this specific way. I think it certainly works to get us to the introduction of the biggest new character of the season who are left to talk about now both on her own and then in connection to the greater. Ted's story which is dr. Sharon fieldstone played by sarah niles on. You need to bring in somebody who can really get under the hood in a deeply trained professional way on and now we're introducing this tension between Ted lasso positive versus know the modern medical practice of of sports psychology. Are you are. Were you enjoying this story. Line are you. Are you curious to see where it goes like. What we're of your takes on bring in dr fieldstone as a character in where this may be going both for the show but specifically for ted lasso. Who seems to be. Maybe surprisingly to me like kind of anti therapy. Well as far as Where we're going. I really hope that. Dr i believe that dr fieldstone will keep higgins office the entire season and the idea that he will be saturday. Tiny task all season. This is giving me life so funny. Such a funny sight gag. I laughed so hard. Jeremy swift knocking the pens over and just the way he's hunched over that little desk and he decides to put a flower on so funny so i love that and i hope that that means that dr fieldstone is around the whole season. But that's not the real reason. I hope that dr fieldstone is around the whole season. I think it's an interesting character is an understated performance by sarah niles. It does seem like a little bit of a closed book. She does not seem to buy in to ted's ted. She doesn't seem to buy the chart offensive. That ted likes to put on and he seems to be very uncomfortable with it. We understand why of course it makes all the sense in the world. I know you said it's odd. That would be so anti therapy but this is the way i'm saying like i feel like season. Two is still dealing the pilot introducing. I shouldn't say the pilot. The premiere episode here introducing some of these things that i think are going to be threats that get the get picked up throughout the season. One of them being like ted didn't just like take text message of the divorce papers. Send them along. I have a one night. Stand with sassy and then be done with it right. He's still carrying around everything. The fear the feeling of failure from his divorce the defensive mechanisms that he developed toward therapy or toward people like that it also not for nothing like the comfort level like teddy loves nothing more than helping these young men become better people right and this feels like a failure on ted's part that not only are they drawing all the time but whatever he's done psychologically to them causes them to need special help beyond him. Someone that's brought in from the outside not lost on me. That ted in his whole team were brought in from the outside ted and beard. I guess as ted's whole team. Yes but they were brought in from the outside but ted is vehemently against this when it comes to bring someone in and yes. It's the therapy part. But i think it also speaks to like ted going to look at. How much is going to look at himself. As a failure they got relegated. His model didn't work and now the thinking normally hangs his hat on. Which is his ability to help. These young men become better people to him under threat. Yep it's not only under threat but it's proven that these guys need something else. Needs someone else like ted can't be what ted needs to be on the field from a effective coach winning game standpoint. He also can't can't be what he needs to be off the field as a man manager as somebody who is responsible for the attitudes of this team. I think it's coming at them from all sides. It triggers him. It speaks to his feelings about failure. The very high profile failure that we saw from season one. So i really like that. I know that the story line. I mean i don't know but i can tell you in my bones that he's going to end up in that office. Oh yeah of course. Talking to dr fieldstone. I wouldn't shock me if roy can't ends up in that office point talking to dr fieldstone. We haven't seen inside the office yet. We had a very godfather one. Michael and kay moment there were dr fieldstone shuts the door right heads face. Yes but we're going to get inside that office. We're going to get in there and see some of these sessions happening but they're going to be with our characters There may be all of them. But i definitely think that and probably really will end up there. So i'm very much looking forward to that as well. Yeah you know it it. It occurred to me in re watching the episode today before we came on You know one of our first. Big ted lasso. Moments of the season is the press conference. And trent krim the independent standing up and everyone just gonna turn groom the independent love that by the way this show kind of winking at itself and you know like getting into the like okay. Everybody has seen the show at this point. Let's sing the song along with everybody in the crowd Whether that's your jam or not like you know Taste dependent. But i think what would it leads to. Is ted story about About the dog that bit him when he was a kid who went on to become the dog he took care of in in in. Its twilight years right now When when hank was was was basically you know he was. He was alone with with the man who became a widow widower and then he needed to go away. And so ted who had been taking care of the dog already then takes the dog on full time. He goes away your later. They have to put him down And ted says the line. I don't have the exact quote but it's like it's amazing how Something can make you cry just because it existed in the same way that it makes you cry because it's gone like that to me was like ted saga met his marriage that that is not done for him. That is not done as a story. This season obviously like his family is a huge part of his life in there for his character and his his character's journey but it wasn't lost on me. Either that in this very episode right away in season two if not like right right away but here in the very start of season two. He's getting text messages from his from his wife with a picture of all these ties that his kid thought was a really funny joke because of all the ties so that threat is still there. It is definitely very unresolved. And i think that that is the kind of stuff that probably will come up with with. Dr fieldstone may come up based on some other story lines. That may rear their head. I think this season which. I think we can talk about a little while when they start talking about a different character perhaps sharon fieldstone dr fieldstone. I think that she's a cool character. I like that. She's not buying into the diamond dog nonsense right away. Why should she you know she's a professional issues. She's walking into this room is everyone's just like dancing around so nice. Did the you like this whole thing. Like this is a very strange thing to walk into. Like i do not blame her. Offer not biting at this especially from like a losing team. You know like wow. I'm surrounded by nincompoops like we have. We have to earn this. And i think that. I think that we likely will likely will. But also we know very little about her beyond the effectiveness of her work as she says to ted. Do you think you're good at what you do. I believe you. i'm twice as good And that she's able to like fix danny after one conversation or at least get him in In enough of a shape that he can make the gonna say this right the corner kick the corner. God the corner kick. I have a lot of questions about how that works just physically in terms of physics. But anyway we could. We could do that off. Line that like she demonstrates that and she watches it happened. She walks away. We don't we don't know anything. Beyond that coach birds. She seems nice. She might be incredible. Rebecca didn't see him especially nice and now if she is deeply loved within the richmond community at this point certainly by many people in the audience. I think it's a give it time kind of thing and also i'm really curious to know what our dr fieldstone's experiences. What what has her life look like. Living in the world of sports psychology working at a highly professional level. Who has she encountered. What might each triggering about ted in the diamond dogs in in her life. And what are the things that may spring out from that. I'm really curious to know. Yeah she's a woman of color not for nothing like placed into a locker room and put into situations with these very high caliber and also high strung athletes and clearly very good at her job so she's no doubt experienced. A time probably experienced a ton of pushback a lot of difficulty. I mean we'd be wrong to see this through an american lens but we'd also be wrong to deny that that lenses is not appropriate to use with regard to the treatment of people like dr fieldstone women positions of power women of color and just as the power. This is not a unique to america. Problem britain has terrible problems with racism. And they're seeing a lot of the same problems that we are so it would be foolish to think that this person in this profession in the achievements that she's had would not have faced a ton a ton of pushback and a ton of negative energy her way so it is a no way surprising that ted's goofiness knowing not knowing ted from atom. It takes a while it takes a while with everybody. Quite frankly like it is not something. Where ted immediately one overall of richmond. He won over higgins earlier than he won over. Rebecca but rebecca was dealing with a lot more and so again. That's a plotline. With ted and rebecca season one and everything rebecca was dealing with and what it took for ted to win her over. We have already tried on those boards. So it wouldn't be shocked. Wouldn't shock me. I should say to see us. Tread on them again with regard to the relationship between ted and dr fieldstone so i am definitely looking forward to it. There are only so many things i mean. The show show plays a little fast and loose in not in a way that i'm criticizing the show but it should be acknowledged that everything that happens in. This show is not a direct one to one. With the real life realities of the sport of the people in the sport for example the backroom staff would be a lot bigger even at a club that had been relegated. The first team in the number of players that would be around would be a lot bigger. The games probably would not still be televised to take instead like this game not televised and yet we had commentators in the gantry. The same ones that were on the season one when they were doing the premier league the guy who was the voice of the premier league on nbc are white. So a lot of this stuff just logically doesn't really add up and i think we should yada yada it away but at when it comes to like an emotional beat like this like what a character dr fieldstone would have seen and experienced. I do think the show doesn't yada yada or wave. The hand over those sorts of things. And i think it will be very interesting to see how she intended get all over. The course of the season Is there anything you want to get into. Further with danny rojo's and that's ended the everything that happens with With earl the greyhound. Inn endangered phillip. We've touched on a lot of it. We probably have not done enough justice to the dream sequence and he kicks the cartoon dog it is just like splashed in comical amounts of blood and then wakes up to football. His death is he is surrounded by women alone. Let me stop down on two things one. I laughed so hard you can are low white at his line. Read of ood gamesmanship from the keeper like when the dog. The cartoon dog is clapping his paws together as laugh so hard that line read the football is death thing i mean. Look we acknowledge. That danny is sitting there next to a couple of women. Do you think that that is meant to be a character. Note like danny row in a dark place. He's waking up in a pile of bodies maybe he got a little too drunk like or is this just a normal night for dan hero. I i suspect it's a normal night for danny. I think so too unfortunately. Or fortunately i guess is the case normal night for danny danny row has much like quiz kid. Donnie smith for magnolia has a lot of love to give is the takeaway. There are no your for me to just bring magnolia into the conversation via the william h macy character. I suspect this is. This is what danny's nights. I also suspect it's it's likely that we won't get too much. Further elaboration on it in the same way that there's so much that suggested about coach beard as opposed to canonized about coach beard. Are we going to see coach. Beard with dr phil stone. What what what. Madness could possibly erupt from that. I hope not. I think. I think coach beard is a is a. You can help me with the metaphor. Antonio i'll start. It is one of those spices that you don't wanna put too much of you know in in the in the soup but needs to be in there otherwise it doesn't taste right but if you put too much in there. It's going to be overpowering so like if we get like two. Psychologically deepen coach beard. I think we're in trouble so much of the success of that character. I think is like the way in which you are able to like craft fan fiction around the legend of coach beard. Which i know is something that brennan hunt has talked about because he like paprika is that is that a navy certainly the way that visually the color is best for pepper cash over. Does it the so. I think so too. It would be very interesting to see. I mean we've seen the dark beard at some points. Blackbeard if you will like the pirate we've seen some of that Emerge from coach beard in the in the the fringes. Like you've said being paid to bite just the way. He goes overboard in his relationships. And we certainly have a hint about it here with the multiple dancers dated since the last answer he would ever date so i don't want break coach beard but i think it would be interesting to see a coach beard that that changes somehow or is in a trance or a few state coach beard. I think we could. I think we could do something fun with coach in the therapy without unpacking coach beard and really trying to solve coach beard. I think therapy could make them up. I really talkative guy for example or changed his cadence for a brief moment. Because that's that's coach. Beard thing great nod by the way to this when he's ranting about there being no harpo emoji guy. Yeah yeah he's talking about the groucho which we call that. The warriors g i love i love the idea of coach beard going to see dr fieldstone throughout the season in not us not knowing it until clutch moment. Something has changed. Didn't realize it. Yeah and he's been like he's been going to dr fieldstone something like that. I could be could be pretty fun any before we move up. There's a lot to cover still with a lot of different characters in their story. Lines just like sort of like planting flags as we love to do with all these people at the start of their season two stories but before we get out of the out of the diamond dogs entirely We opened on an i. Because of course we open our i and happens to be nate. Is where the season starts Did you have any thoughts and like. Why is that the character to begin with what what stood out to you that like we do. Have this shot. That opens up the season. Where like we're hearing the color commentary on the game and then we open up on. Nate's i like zoom out from there. That is that leading us summer. Obviously it is right like where could it possibly be taking us. If you talk about. Where could it possibly take us. I think that might be a different conversation than where it might or where we think because of course in season one. We have this example. We don't directly open on rebecca's face in season. One we open on the god save the queen sex pistols shots of training and then that sort of breaks down as we talked about in our last podcast. and then we're framed on rebecca's extremely expressive and emotive face. I hand wanting him such such good face acting and they let so much play out with her reactions and emotions and season one so it makes sense to center season one around that and then we end season one on her face as well. Right with the bubble sneaking. Backup on ted and we had the emotional moment. Ted finally drops that hard f-bomb shows us a little bit more of a different side of himself and then the water gets spit in sort of breaks that moment and is a very funny note to end the season on rebecca's face but it is her face that we framed beginning and end at a minimum. We could end the season on. Nate's face that said. I don't see a version of this series where nate in his story is as prominent as rebecca's was in season one so it doesn't feel like a one to one but i think it's very interesting that we open on nate's face as opposed to someone else's Could have been rebecca. Watching from. The crowd could have been ted. It could have literally been anyone else could have been dante. Ross i could have been the goalkeeper could have been the dog and yet they chose nate. And i gotta imagine that. They chose that for a reason why we did though i i can't really say clearly. There's some great for nate. But i wonder and like they're they're certainly like some popular v. Motley relatively recent popular tv examples in by relatively reason. I'm talking about shows that have ended years and years ago. So it's actually not that relatively recent and i'm just an old now but certainly my favorite show lost. I'm also thinking parks and rec. I've got a couple of spoiler examples to toss out on both of those. But i will stop short of just like saying the specific characters other than like unlikely people ending in positions of power in both of those like you know like the gary story. I'm just thinking is. Is there a world. Where ted last. So is building towards head coach. Nate like could that be and gay material. It's possible like if so this is a this is if so what i would say is that was probably not something they had planned during when they broke season one and they were planning out how to write season one they probably did have some larger arcs for the three seasons plotted out over the course of their process of breaking season one but if so it feels like and there are these moments and it happens a lot in tv shows where you go from season to season and that all of a sudden went a new season starts you see them really center storylines that when you look back you realize oh. This was seated so much at the beginning of the second season when they had time to sit down and think about where they wanted to go they go really hard back. In in a certain direction it happens very prominently on better call saul at the beginning of better costs all season to where they in season one and what. They put at the center of the beginning of season two relationship. Wise with jimmy mcgill especially become such a key element of the show going forward when it was only like danced around a little bit. In the first season it becomes the center of the show in the second. And i'm not saying it will become the second are the center of the show but it could easily see. You could easily see a world where they had not planned out exactly how that was all going to play out over the course of the three seasons and then as they were sitting down to break season two and talking about those arcs as we're approaching season three and the end of the show. This may be something they put on the table and they're going to set up by beginning in the way that they began so that would be something that could be possible. And i think that you could imagine a world where they sat down to break the season and they started thinking about endgame and then when they thought about game. They thought. Let's do this. This seems right like this. Seems like a good a good shout so football is very complicated. And you can't just coach a football team. This is something where there are a lot of Lot of fast and loose things happening with the coaching. You have to earn badges. You have to earn licenses and certifications and that's a process that a lot of ex players go through while they're playing is to to begin the certification process so that when they're finished playing they can begin coaching right away. I'm not sure we're nate stands with that. I'm not sure that the show cares about that and it could just be that. We see a nate who grows and doesn't grow to that role but we could easily end up there for sure. Can i ask you quickly about the the football as depicted in this episode. Because i know that there's a thing you've criticized certainly in our conversations we've talked about it very lightly on the to five castes. We've done prior to this one of like sometimes this show just like doesn't get this quite right and also maybe looks. A little clunky did i was it me. I felt like an uptick in the production value. For this stuff and that opening scene did you feel the same way or were you still kind of just like i gotta get over this. Because it's just not right couple of things first of all any time. It's christo fernandez. Danny rojo's that's doing the footballing. It looks better because krystal fernandez was an ex professional. Football like he was on that path. I don't know when he stopped. But i do believe even to the time. He was like in his teens. Maybe even too late teens. He was in the developmental system in mexico so he has legitimate football skill. So it's funny you say. Of course it had to be danny row house going dog. I think a lot of times that the football was happening with the rojo's it's because they know when they shoot it with krystal fernandez going to look good. He's actually going to be able to kick it and you can see his face and you can see his body and you can see the actor doing the thing that you don't normally see happening when you have a sports movie or sports show unless you cast that type of person. My guess is as they filled out the rest of the cast as they're adding new people. That is something they can take into account if they so choose it happened. On the disney mighty ducks reboot. This time around. There are a lot of people like being these kids all know how to skate. Then i thought to myself a fucking course. They know how to disney. Disney went around the entire world and found the ten unicorns to put in the show. Like of course. They know how to skate. Like ted lasts. Who can do the same thing with regard to football. So that's part of it The part where it looks. It doesn't look as good is really where they show like the movement on the pitch and they don't have the same cameras that are being used on television or that you would necessarily have the perspective if you're seeing in real life it's shot from cinematic angle so it's always going to look a little different than you expect it to. I thought it looked good. I had no complaints about the footballing quality. And the only times i really have in. The past is just the speed of the game in person in person especially but certainly on tv as well. It just looks so much faster than it looked on the first season and the baugh especially at the premier league it. Just there's so much more zip on the ball. It's moved around so much differently. 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He's still seeing the yoga moms. He's watching reality. Tv he seeing jamie tar on love island which i wanna talk about it a bigger way a little while after we're done talking about roy specifically he's going to have this really big hearted speech to rebecca about like. Don't settle for fine like you deserve somebody who's gonna make you feel like you've been struck by lightning so there's a lot going on with roy emotionally in. They're still figuring out how to lake. Have him on the show and it feels like they've succeeded in that effort. But then there arwa these possible like career path questions right antonio like He's he's certainly welcome to come back He seems to not be wanting to come and watch richmond play. I'm sure it's very triggering for him. Does that wind him in You know a wind up at dr fieldstone office at some point in time does it get him into a coaching position he is. He's a coach. Now of sorts is certainly a question. That's on on the on the table and then there's also dislike sports caster possibility which seems more interesting to me Then maybe it would have without this ending by interesting. I mean like more more plausible. If like the jamie tartan. Roy kent rivalry is to continue if jamie tart is going to defile himself by going on like trashy reality. Tv and roy can go on tv and be a professional You know i. I think that that is set up really pretty well. Lots of words about roy. Can't i'd love to get yours in terms of your favorite character. Brett goldstein's Arrival in season two. And where you think this has gone so far and what you liked about him in this first month truly so much to say about roy. Can't i just i love the sensitivity of recant and that was something we talked about with regard to y roy really hit so well in season. One why roy keeley bonded and enabled them to make a fast connection is that level of sensitivity and honesty about him brutally. Honest is certainly away that you might have described roy in the past and in the moment The great speech that you reference that he gives to rebecca about rebecca not does not settling for fine that she needs to deserve somebody that makes her feel like she's been struck by lightning. Like that is so good. Don't you dare settle. He says the sensitivity of of of roy. How he so good at being. Like ann landers or a dear abby or what they would call in the uk an agony aunt. Like how he's so good at hearing. These problems are being unburdened or understanding. Though the way that that's all shaking out being unburdened around. Roy can i should say i don't know why he's good at it but he is. His sensitivity is shocking in many respects. Because you wouldn't expect that. From the the roy that we got in season one or the way he presents so the still waters about really can't or the angry waters in this case and the depth of them are always fascinating. I love where we find. Roy can i do think he's hurting significantly. I as i said. I don't think that there's a world where he's not. He's so not busy that anytime. Rebecca wants to pick a time is fine and he's too busy to show up to any. Afc richmond match like that just happens to all of his. Football is going on i. I don't know that. That's the case. I don't know about really akili. Long-term i do ship them. But i do wonder if we're ending up story where they're great for each other but maybe not great for each other As long term life mate. I i hate that. I hate it. I just don't know. I don't know if that's where we're at with this or not but i have to point out that we introduce a little conflict in this first episode with the two of them she brings up the pundit thing at dinner when she knows he's not comfortable with it and he's not comfortable at the dinner and then she does apologize and he forgives her at all as well but there is this sort of like keely is very good for roy and very helpful for roy but not everything is perfect between the two of them. And if we're being honest not everything ends up. Perfect in real life things are a lot messier than just being so perfect. I said this in our season. One podcast i feel like there are romantic comedy tropes that this show really will delve into as we get further away from maybe some of the sports movie tropes and we get into some of the other things especially that we associate british centric things doing so well. The british centric rom com is like a staple of the certainly the american cinematic experience. It's certainly something that american americans who love cinema film can point to a handful of british romantic comedies. That they absolutely love so it would not shock me at all to see that we ended up with some conflict with roy and kelly or that their relationship becomes as much of a story as anyone's relationship. May maybe it maybe it is. I mean these shows do a very especially workplace comedies. Right if you wanna talk about the jim and pam or taking it. Further back with the tim and dawn. All of these will they. Won't they storylines the this show dispense with that relatively quickly. We did not keep roy and keely apart for very long. There are some great moments between the two of them in like starting with the third episode and then by what two or three episodes later like. We're good to go when they're make liver make rebecca great again in liverpool episode seven so four episodes later. They're pretty much together. And then it smooth sailing. Just don't think the is going to be forever smooth. And i do wanna know where roy can't get this. Well i wanted to ask you josh. Why is it. Do you think. Because i think the show without putting this completely on display like they have done before i think the point is. They're ted. has his girl talk moment with rebecca. We have that hilarious girl. This joke and we have ted ending up with painted nails and in between what we have is ted basically telling rebecca like you have nothing to worry about what this guy he sounds. Great you know. And ted does not get any further than that really. Can't meets the guy for one night and says you should not settle. You should not settle for fine. And he's able to give rebecca such beautiful speech about why she should feel empowered. I mean he's the one who gets through to her in a way. The ted lasso has no zone has no realm that he connects with. Why do you think these two characters presents so differently with rebecca and why do you think the show is putting that on display That's a really good question. And i'm not sure i mean the thing that i i mostly took from roy ken Very fiery speech to rebecca. Is that an. And i think the reason. Why can't we just like nods with it in like is in full agreement is because they have like found this viewing in each other right like i really get that sense that for the two of them they do feel like they've been struck by lightning But i also get the sense that and this is why it may be a little more optimistic about Roy in key long term. I think i if the if they if they go through like a break-up arc if they do something like that like i do have faith in ted lasts at the The show that they'll do it right But i think that there would also be like we have like enough of that like in the rebecca story. Line and her divorce from rupert In ted and and michelle getting divorced. I think like the the probably the most solid couple on the show is one. We don't even really see which is higgins and his wife very very fondly of her. I would have several children l. People all people are different people though josh and he does he does talk about right like they've through the dark times that come from people who really care about each other. I hope i think. I think compelling stories and very funny stories and dramatic and tragic stories can be told about people who stick together too so i i really do hope that roy n'kili can make it end the speech from roy to rebecca specifically like signal to me that this is a couple that is really really still strong. The way that That keely was able like when kiwi royer on the phone at the end of the episode. And she's like oh shit that's right. It's yoga night. And like she's just like totally great within like doing his thing and knowing how happy that's making him even if she is wanting to push him a little bit more. But i i don't get since she's pushing him in any way that isn't healthy Like i think like she is trying to like kind of like healthily. Activate roy a little bit and like be supportive and encouraging for him and so i hope all of that is is still good. They're all tell you the thing that makes me the most nervous and like this is where we can talk about. Jamie tart in love island is like that being the end of the episode but that's rat just a gag right like it's funny and it's a gag like i'm the biggest scorer out here that whole sensually. Actually it just like the way. He's wearing the microphone jamie tart. His hair looks a lot better than the hair that he had when he went back to manage it. And it's just. It's so funny that i feel like i feel like that. Come that competition between roy and jamie is still there and like this could be the incentive for roy to get on television you know to get back into the game in whatever form he can an and when it's like roy versus jamie territory that's where it gets like kind of like a little dicey with keeley. I think so the relationship the relationship stuff. I get a little nervous about if roy is reading this final scene with jamie i gotta get on tv rather than like. Wow look at the scumbag And i think probably narrative we might instinct would be. It's the first thing With obviously shades of the second thing but narrative -ly Feels like the first thing to me. Well it's it's interesting right because jamie target is not just one things roy can't yes he's this asshole who was a major thorn in his side. So selfish hurt the team. Somebody that really can't just loathed as being a massive prick but he's also his current girlfriend act right so that is two different things that are related but there are also separate and apart and so seeing a person that you loathe on love island hits different than seeing your girlfriend's ex on love island and maybe it reminds you of a thing that you don't want to think about or it makes you feel a different way about the person that you love. I mean there's all of that my question is what's this in your opinion. Was this the first time that roy became aware. That jamie was on love islanders going there every week with the yoga. My the same question. Watch this certainly If you know if this was. I'm going to steal your joke if this was roy has odd cast right and like read my dotes. Roy has a podcast that there was like love. Island preseason coverage he knows the cast right. Is he a superman. The question like is going over with the yoga moms every week. And they're watching reality. Tv is this guy who's not aware of the cast going in. I suspect he I suspect for like the for the frolic. The sake of the fiction. He probably didn't know would be my guess just like easy. Tv explanation but like if this were if this. Is it reality tv if if this were reality about reality tv. And he knows jamie starts on that cast but i think probably just for like the cleanliness of the narrative. I read this as like all. You gotta be frigging kidding me. Well i think the narrative is sloppier and not clean if he doesn't know in some respects because i would think keeley would know and surely keeley would talk to roy about that and say that she was disgusted by it. Or can you believe this or hey you're gonna find out about this and you know whatever i just feel like this would have come up not to mention if it's not the first episode. I'm not sure that it is isn't. I'm not a love island guy and i know that that was not meant to be love island per se. It was sort of a cover version if you will. But i'm given to understand that love island in the uk happens over. Very brief period happens like many uk reality shows like. It's not like us where we're spending six months on a thing like it's intense burst for like a couple of weeks and then it's done. That might be how love island is happening. I don't know. But i don't know when this would have met was meant to have been filmed. Was this before the season was. Is it going on now. Laviolette i think mostly contemporaneous. So i just don't know where all of this is headed is this. What is this another reason. Why roy doesn't wanna be on tv. My roy has a podcast. Joe came from royce hilarious rant about what he thinks about tv pundits which is very funny because there are a lot of ex players. Obviously who are these pundits very common career path for ex players in one way shape or form whether it's with local club and their websites or their tv networks or whether it's with national the international coverage very common career path. And that's why. I think it just seems like a no brainer when a bill and rebecca are at the date and they say oh yeah that seems like a great fit for you. Sure like it. Just seems like a no brainer. But they're roy does not want it. He says he doesn't want it. Because of all the the shit talking that goes on the same reason. Sometimes i don't wanna podcast felt very much in keeping with roy on that front but i think there could be more to it. I do think he probably knew. I do think he's been watching. I don't think he didn't look shocked when this came up. He looked disgusted and he tried to like laugh about it but he was clearly disgusted. I don't know. I feel like he might have known this but i don't know if that's that for for me i just i just. I wasn't clear to me. And i don't really know if we were meant to take in that the fact that jamie's on tv and doing that is a big reason. Why roy doesn't want to be as well. Is this gonna cause a problem within keeley as your maybe hinting at that. It could possibly. That could make roy act a certain type away. I don't know any of that stuff. But it was interesting to me that from a narrative standpoint. I wasn't i wasn't sure if this was something that he knew previously and was this. Was he leaning in on this and just making himself suffer through it. Was this a way to replicate the suffering through of constant training and rent put his body through. I don't know. I don't know what he's chasing him. As far as how it connects to jamie to to touch on that like. I think that there's a world in which like this him. Being on a reality show means. He's not playing soccer right now. I think like there's there's a certain read of that so it depends a little bit. I think probably and i guess like i am not like a red in at. I'm really disconnected from reality. Tv these days anyway. But i'm really not it at all on how it. Uk reality works. Is this like a big brotherish type of situation. Where they're you know they're they're taping and airing like really quickly after each other. I think so Is it is it the kind of thing where this was banked months earlier. And if so he's still playing soccer. This is something that happened off season so we just need to know a little bit more but it's interesting very interesting if it means that he's he's not playing currently as far as the ramifications of what could jamie's story be like. How do you get jamie back onto. Afc richmond is. He has fallen so lower. He's like so out to disappoint his father. At this point that like he's not even gonna play anymore It it's it's funny gag at the end of the episode but like definitely reads it. It's definitely like the kind of thing that you really chew on. If you are at the place and i hope that you are. If you're like taking the show pretty seriously if you take jamie tart seriously as a character That like it's not just funny. It is funny but it's not just funny. It's also really provocative for where he might be in how he might come back into the show. Definitely you're right like we don't typically see footballers in the prime of their career like jamie tar was end up on a reality show unless something has gone very very wrong even in the uk. That's just not something you know. The shows like i'm a celebrity. Get me out of here celebrity. Big brother things that were that were or are often big in the uk. They have had ex footballers celebrities. Come on and it's exactly the same as it is here in that it's it's some version of like okay so maybe things aren't going so well for you or you feel the need to get like some kind. If you think this will give you a boost you must be in need of a boost. Because you wouldn't do this if you weren't and so. That definitely feels a little bit like what's happening here. With jamie tart like this is not someone focused on football. Whether that means he stopped playing. Did you know is is going to lead to manchester city. Cutting him in some way or buying out his deal or maybe getting him back to. Afc richmond i speculated in our our previous podcasts that one of the things that he could do something that football we often do which is agitate for a move. It's just something that that you if you wanna play in a certain place and you have had your head turned as they say and you have the idea that you wanna go play there. You can find your way back there. Usually even though someone's got your contract even though you're supposed to play somewhere else especially if you're high profile enough you can find your way to get back to what you need to do. So i could certainly see mansi saying. I don't want this headache. What's jamie tart like there's a million jamie tarts like we were just we have six other jamie tarts right here. Send them away. get back to. Afc richmond if that's where he wants to go. And i could see that happening if jimmy carter to hit bottom like and this is sort of the process that you could see he would be if he's gonna hit bottom it's like he's circling the drain by doing this. And he's going to end up drained and then he's going to end up wanting to get replenished in that could see him coming back to. Afc richmond so you could see that and certainly if that happens that could be a doctor fieldstone specialists well. Even though ted did get through to jamie in his own way and throughout the central conflict of season one he was able to get through jamie clearly the note that he gave jamie or that he had beer delivered a jamie at the end of season. One has not helped jamie such that. He's on love island or whatever this is called. But i don't know where we end up with jamie but clearly he's still on the show and clearly. I think we're going to find a way to bring him back into the story. More than just showing up on roy's yoga moms tv shows. So i think he's going to be back at. Afc richmond as a matter of when not if it's just a matter of what brings him there. And i think this speaks to. He could be in a place where he's going to need. Afc richmond because he could be on the on the on the mend as it were from a reputation standpoint from a career standpoint so we could see him get back for sure. I think i think we're heading there pretty quickly. So we're saving the queen for last as as we're talking about the rebecca storyline now rebecca. Who has gotten back into dating dating. John wayne's night she says goodbye newman to him at the coffee shop even though she doesn't know that's what she's doing until she's doing it largely inspired by the roy. Kent speech is it prompted by anything else antonio very good question Very good question like the question that we have is like. What of rebecca mean. I don't wanna read rebecca through the lens of just her relationships with men. That's the wrong thing to do. And it is a short shrift on rebecca. That said like that was her central conflict in season. One was how the failing of her relationship with rupert and specifically how she was treated in the context of that led her to behave the way she behaved and edit dimensionality to what would have normally been a one dimensional sports movie villain in a role that we've seen. We were treated her much differently and she seems to have. Just be presenting with tattoos. Though everything's fine we've the mad men office that she's got with the cocktail carton. Everybody chilling out and having drinks at work and just having a great time. So everything seems smooth on the home front and afc richmond but she is putting herself back out there and she is open to being attacked. I think in some ways and she finds in the course of this episode. The time to be braved. I think it's time to be brave in part because of roy speech but i also think in part because of what she sees a. She's looking around that room when she's a couple at very low comfort or high comfort level with each other texting another couple. That's in very intimate context. Where they they seem very much in love and very activated and then we see a woman by herself. And i don't know what's the ongoing magnolia motif by the way which had previously been referenced in the episode as amy manns wise up is playing in the background which is icon used in magnolia to signal to shift into the climax of the film as all of the characters are singing along to the song so it is like very pop culturally iconic -ly tied to this moment of great character introspection so i had to be playing in the background is rebecca has having what may be some sort of transformative moment. 'cause we don't know what's on the other side of this revelation we don't know and i think that's the real big debate right and again. Not right to debate this through the lens of just rebecca and another man in the show but of course people are talking whether rightly or wrongly And i think most people not with a negative agenda talking about rebecca and ted. Is that a thing that will happen. We talked about it on our podcast. Are we going to ship. This is the thing we want to happen does it make sense are the right for each other. Are they better as loving each other as friends like. Where is that. So when rebecca says like. I need to let someone wonderful love me like obviously the brain fills in the blank with. Who is that someone wonderful and i think some people will read that possibly is that ted and that's the question. I think that. I don't know the show definitely wants us to be asking that like we don't for example away you lean into. That is just all from that into ted's face right or we smash cut to ted being the next thing that we see. It doesn't necessarily work that cleanly. I am interested in the magnolia off more than just anything i mean not for nothing the death of a character named earl and we have all of these little points that are made. I mean that could have been any film. That was referenced there. I do think it's interesting. The ted's magnolia. Moment ted referencing magnolia and trying to get danny to buy leads to a very funny joke about the little tiny ponytail and very funny. How beard chimes in sort of agreed chorus or human wikipedia. There but it didn't. It didn't work like ted bringing up that with danny and trying to crack that nut with this obscure this film reference. That may have been so somewhat obscure for danny row. Haas doesn't work. Dr fieldstone it seems like mumbo jumbo whenever she says to danny row haas but it works incredibly well so i think that the the magnolia is interesting to kind of center of discussion. And i have thought about it. I mean the tiny ponytail. They're talking about the tom. Cruise character frank. tj mackey. Who is like this. Awful like very misogynistic. Tony robbins tight. Who has a couple of catch raises. That i dare not say out loud on a podcast even quoting it and referred to human private parts. Yes about taming certain things and got to be honest. I love that movie in that character's a big reassure where the again going to spoil magnolia. Now it's been out for a very long time. So is the podcast watch magnolia. I guess the the combination of that character being like this like up like he's like you know whether or not it's it's it's going to justify all the hurt it's not really but like he is a really broken guy With a lot of pain in his past that he is able to to confront to some degree towards the end of the movie in a way that completely destroys and dissolves the facade that completely alike cracks all of that outward confidence in that You know every everything that he's he's rejecting and ted lasso is not frank tj maxx and probably to put it a better way. Frank dj mackey is not laso But is there. Are we building towards some kind of moment. Where the walls come crumbling down with ted that i can see that i can. We headed in season one to an extent right right. I think we are. I think what's very clear as i said earlier with the time. Jump and i wanna. I wanna bring this back to the rebecca discussion but where we're clear is like these characters were changed by the events of last season. Ted coming to the uk has changed him. Rebecca coming to the realization that it's okay for her to be in pain but it's not okay for her to her others with that pain and it's okay now in this episode and in this scene we were talking about. It's okay for her to want to be treated wonderfully and ask for greatness. It's okay for her to feel like she deserves that. And that is a. That's a moment of clarity. for her. In many respects it is not just born out of roy. Kent telling her that. It is not just born of her. Having positive experiences with ted lasso or negative experiences with rupert eats born out of her own observations about life. It's born out of her own experiences. Born out of she brings up her great friend flow. Sassy born out of her relationships with people like that with keeley like we saw. You'll helping rebecca coming into her own and get confidence back in season one We saw that with flo Happening as well. So these things are all a product of what's of what's bringing rebecca to this table that she finds herself in this cafe with this magnolia. Moment with amy man but they're all combining to create something that. I don't know that we know where we go from here. I don't know what that means. Rebecca i hope that means that she holds out for something right and she doesn't just seem to think ted. Lassos the guy. I hope that if ted lasso is the guy it's because of more things that happen on the show that we see more things happening between the two of them. Because as i was just suggesting ted is not net not fixed either and what we see from that is he. Has these real apprehensions about therapy. He has real trust issues in some respects that develop probably not just because of what happened with he and michelle but what happened with him and rebecca. What happened with him and this team. What happened with his own failures With the club. Getting them To stay up like all of these things are there with ted lasso. He's carrying them all around. Maybe rebecca has come to her moments a little bit more clearly than he has in a little bit more quickly. And maybe rebecca will help. Ted now get some clarity on what deserves out of life. And we're ted deserves to be how ted needs to give himself a break like maybe all that will happen and they will have this great relationship that continues to blossom. We're like season one. They support each other and their relationship comes from that and evolves from there. I hope that if we do end up with ted and rebecca it is a product of that product of like this. Not where rebecca is thinking of ted. But we're rebecca thinking of rebecca and what that means for back going forward and if that means that she ends up with tad because she's a better person and can be more supportive of him when he needs it and she can recognize him her own pain or her own mistakes. I think that's where the show can really do. A lot of great work over this season. And i do think it necessarily means that we're going to see ted who isn't great and i think that's okay because we saw it in season one and we ended up in a place that felt so good still. I think we can trust this. Show to get us there again. Whether that means rebecca ten together or apart. I don't think it really matters josh like the end of another show. We podcast it about with the leftovers. Doesn't really matter whether it was true or not like it. Hap- right totally on the on the rebecca front end tied back into roy just to to call out some of the feedback. We got for this episode. A lot of people just loved that moment between those two characters tova rights in might have shed a tear roy speech rebecca just loved him so damn much. The incredible. just stirring says. I've really loved everything roy did. His speech is something everybody needs to hear a lot of A lot of similar takes about this. Just more feedback real quickly. This was from. Jared jared said. I think we're heading towards a conflict of the therapist really helping the team out and ted not understanding. Why or how what. She's doing so much better than what he's doing. So it works better for us to not see these meetings between dr fieldstone and the players yet. I think that. I i think that i ultimately agree with that. Take in terms of being left out of the conversation between dr fieldstone. and danny rojo's a. There's a lot of i mean one of my favorite films if not a long time in my life. That's been my favorite film. Is alfred hitchcock vertigo. And there's a centralized moment in that film where you have been with a character for the film experience. What they've experienced felt they're paying felt. Their confusion felt their agony. And then you learn something that that character does not know and so then the relationship has changed like this is no longer you experiencing a film in the shoes of character. It's you experiencing a film where you had been so deeply entrenched in the shoes of a character and then you learn something that that character doesn't and so there's so much conflict generated from. How will this. You know your mind reels immediately. Like oh my gosh. How does this character. Who i know so deeply and so i'm so emotionally connected to. How are they going to react to this thing that i learned and so i think there's some of that with the therapy. I think it makes sense that we didn't see in that room. And because we're so heavily. Invested in ted and we anchor ourselves in many respects in ted's emotions in the way ted feels about things that are happening. I think the confusion our end is good. I think the show has a little bit of work to do to make sure that we don't see dr fieldstone as a villain. Yes because tat is our hero. And ted is the person at the center of the show flawed or not that we most associated with. If he's at odds with her then it feels like we could be at odds with her so at some point. I think we are going to need to see something. That ted doesn't see so that we can be placed differently from ted and feel that they're going to have to merge it's a it's a. It's it's a complicated maneuver that they're going to have to pull off. I think the writing of the show up to this point convinces me that they'll be able to do it but it's definitely not without a pretty significant degree of difficulty. So they're going to they're going to have to nail that a couple of other pieces of feedback from de dreux dealer asks us antonio showed the royal you enjoy watching more lust conquers all or sexy beasts. I did not watch evenings on sexy beast. Emily and i watched the first episode. Look the makeup effects are very impressive. It looked incredible in the trailer but incredible to the point of horse signed a nightmare. It is it. is it less. I guess your furry in which case it's true moment of like thrills very impressive and the people who are doing. The makeup work on that show should be. Hopefully they're being obscene amounts of money. You know they're not not and so. I hope that somebody sees what they've done here in hires them for a really cool shit because they shouldn't be making some sort of monster show. They are a better monster monster. show yeah what was the name of the. What's the actual name of. the shows. Love island parody here. Oh it's hang on. Let me grab that again. It's lust conquers. Aw lost conquers. That is also a monster show in my view enough. Less conquers all is the name of the show would have much preferred to see jamie tart on drag race you can. That would have been my sweet spot for a show that i put him in a makeover challenge where he gets made over although the humor that would have come out of. That would've would've probably come off as mean-spirited so i don't actually see that. But that's that's my. That's my sweet spot. That's your reality show. I'm a dragon. I know you're gonna love from from sean sean. Says i'm told they're gonna start telling my students to be like a high end tape measure and snap back quickly Lots of great witty. Lhasa wisdom's this week. That was film like a bigger loser than the biggest loser on the biggest loser that i don't even know On pack that in my brain is good. That was that was that. did you like the. What was your favorite kind of one off joke. Did you like the. I really liked the early nigel joke. I'd like the delivery on that joke of from character. We only got to see an at. Br badlands made that one moment. Forget the exact line. But when danny is in the shower. And he's washing the death off of him. Ted something hilarious. About like don't get this open those crevices to get the the the eternal whatever again. I howled on the second watch. Because i didn't catch the first time and then the other thing that i really loved is not a ted moment. But when when because danny's in the in the shower ted tells everybody to go home to take their showers and samson's coach some prefer bubble bats. Why that killed me. That really really team agreed. That was very that everyone seems like. Yeah we're we're bask guys man ask guys. I'm a man from way back man. I'm a bad one last night. Daddy goldblum it was great. It was really. Where do you have a bathtub. I don't think i've ever seen the bath shower. I've never been in the personal weather master. Probably that's for the best rainy and that's it. You have to act like you have to pull the right book off the shelf and then you go down the tube and then you get into the wombat cave as we call that. So that makes sense right. That's where i keep my read Deep under really hard underground bomb answering anything else from this episode that you wanna you wanna hit on quickly before we wrap. Let's call this free kick. We'll just call the segment free-kick where we just kinda hit little moments of this show. I wanna talk about speaking of resetting things and speaking of the second season giving you an opportunity On the first from kickoff we we hear colin hughes. We hear about colin hughes. What sounded like eighty are from. Arlo white as danny row houses. Walking up for the dog penalty they say colin hughes is really feeling. Gotta be throwing good because he was at fault for the equaliser. So we're putting colin at the center of a mistake and a mental problem. It is colin and is a row who or was it zoro. Who are witnessing shopping pronouncing it right to me. I dunno it later and zero. Who have seen dr fieldstone. So we get a little bit more colin in in terms of Censoring him. I think in a couple of these moments in the episode. I think it's worth noting because to me that speaks to the idea that we're probably going to get probably as much colin this season as we got of sam or danny last season would be my guess. I could be wrong about that but it seems like we're centering. Colin right away with what sounded like eighty our dialogue to me. Makes it feel like you know it would be good to see that pretty quickly early on if we could and they probably ended it in post so it wouldn't surprise me if we see more colin this series i loved god. Damn internet line from higgins and now now. We're not going to be televised every game. Yes they can put the internet. Who right the goddamn internet. I've already re tweeted that. That tweet from ted lasso shifts account that was at ted lasso shifts and they tweeted that tweeted. It's perfect that will be. i think. Perfect to us in so many ways on twitter especially so loving that i also really low laughed so hard at trent's question specifically the way he phrased it. I was wondering if you had any thoughts on earl. The dog danny rojo killed. Yes buried the lead. They're not saying house. Danny or what do you have to say about what happened there at the end of the match. Just thoughts on earl. The dog danny rojo skilled. Today is a hilarious sentence delivered hilarious. It is but it is also to me such a signal of trent asking the question that needs to be asked. It's kind of wild that they are that far into the press conference in. That's not the first question that's asked just in terms of like how these things go. That's the headline. danny rose killed talk. That's the first question at that press conference so that it hasn't been asked yet is is is crazy. But i think it's also a sign of the the relationship between trenton krim and ted. Lassos still doing his job. Asking the question has to be asked but doing it in a way where he is setting. Ted laso up to answer it however ted laso chooses to answer it you know what i mean like just asking it. In a way. We're like the floor is yours. But address the i was gonna say the elephant in the room but the greyhound in the well and like a good lawyer. You don't ask a question where you don't feel like you're going to get the answer that helps you right. And i think trent knows the as you're saying he knows not not just. This is the question to ask but this is the question. We're tad's gonna have a take like tad's gonna have something positive to say that could make people feel better. That can be interesting. Relatable human ted delivers just a homerun story just an absolutely homerun story that yes you're right. I think speaks to what ted is carrying around about his marriage. I think reminds us that ted is carrying around a lot of emotional pain as well. He should be from what happened. And i think really does a good job of setting that up from the beginning of the season but also reminding us like who aren't is what trent crime does why he's good at what he does. And why ted is good for those types of things. So i think that was a really important thing to hit from the beginning from the top. Introduce a as we are beginning. The second season speaking of things being introduced in the second season we didn't talk about a new character. Yawn moss talked a little bit about the dutch aspects of him. What do you think. Do you think john moss just there for one note joke or do you think there might be more to this yawn moss character. He's he's the one only euclid terribly right. And he's just he's just being dutch. I i suspect he's just like another Another voice in the locker room we need to like boost the the unsolvable. They're a tiny bit now. That right can't is gone. Nate's role is different. So i think there's there's some to some degree to which like i think they're just like fleshing out the cast. I don't anticipate there being like an enormous jon. Moss storyline this season any more. So than like a sam storyline or a danny storyline. Like those two seem to be the characters who were like who were definitely notable characters in season one but didn't necessarily have major arcs in season. One that those characters that i hope would get like major arcs among like the like the team itself above a new character that they're just like introducing out of nowhere. I think that jon mass has potential to to be really funny on the show and his existence and his contributions could certainly help like grease the wheels on some narrative stuff. But i don't expect there to be like a huge storyline with him. It felt like he was just being played for jokes and probably is going to continue to be that way. Just yeah and we'll find new ways to make the same jokes over and over and maybe by the end of the season he will behave slightly differently having been changed by all the positive energy in the locker room. So we'll see we'll see on mas. I enjoyed the unlucky. That is something. I always like hearing our seeing There's a i'm a liverpool supporter. There's a hilarious liverpool meam with lucas leiva ex-liverpool stalwart saying unlucky That was something he picked up from british land brazilian lucas very funny. I love hearing that. I also liked the jets joke. That i believe was in the trailer but a very funny joke americanized punchline. There are probably other ways to do that. Punchline with other sport but i thought very funny to have their speaking of sport and england just a unique thing i think especially in football is what they call the darby spelled. Drb y and sort of just like that word in that. it's a sporting event. But in the context of sporting event a darby is like your rivalry and we introduce that with a sort of a one in. Just one sentence from higgins. The joke about how their rival over at brentford sent them a bunch of thai food as a joke. Yeah so i think we could be introducing a fun kind of that's an episode we could do of tad laso adobe. Maybe they weren't able to do that because once he was up in the premier league team was not and so they weren't playing another both in the championship. Maybe we'll actually see the way that that could play out the way a rivalry week darby. We could play out some big moments ex players coming in like there are a lot of things football wise they can do with that And by having a good rival team there we have great opportunity to kind of play those sandboxes so it wouldn't surprise me to see that i love the barking ham palace joke josh favorite joke of the episode more so even than the empire strikes back joke. Joke that richmond. Now is the the proud. Perhaps a little guilty Great benefactor of the largest dog shelter in richmond Called buckingham palace. Funny love that. What else are there any free kicks for you. I have a few more. No i touched on a bunch of them that i loved the tab. The swear jar for phoebe. Let's talk about the number. Was what one thousand two hundred and thirty six pounds. She's owed by by roy at this point also the same number. That's the same number of their record from the the paper game. One thousand two hundred thirty six. Oh amazing is that is that is that is that one of the that is that the lasso numbers are one. Two three six lassen. There's definitely some sort of easter egg in the writer's room about that whatever. The story about that actually is a is is interesting. I would love to know more i will. I just love roy. Like the first shot of roy with the hag the haggard beard and. He's like barking down at the team at the kids. And telling that one kid like you put your whole body out. There is just like you got it coach. Don't eat what does he say like don't-they don't eat the peels. you savages. Orange slices that really. That really really cracked it very funny. I love the little girl coca ruta. She she was hurt. Energy was great. The one that had the ice pack on her head so funny. I didn't think he was going John wayne's night who is like always like telling these stories like his like like that felt like so. You and i have both listen to people who have and check this out. The great lesley. Goldberg and dan fiber. Tv's top-five podcasts. At the hollywood reporter interviewed brett goldstein. Who plays right. Kent and his writer on the show. Emmy nominee brett goldstein. Has they love to say and he had. He had a lot of a lot of stories to share and one of the things that he articulated was how there is a fairly minimal amount of improv. On the show. It's it's mostly just like you know adapting the great scripts that they're writing in in the room but having said that the john character at both the dinner table during during the double date and also the coffee date like felt like he could just be like he could just be like improvising. different story. Every take like this like martin. Short thought i stole his wallet story and like the way that that unfolds and it just ended martin shorts while it was in the couch cushion the whole time. I select both of his stories that we heard senator around like theater. She s like is he must have been like a theater also not for nothing that actor. I thought i'd seen before. And i when i looked it up after the show. He played the replacement the swindon boss from the british office. Who was in neil. Who was this beloved character. Who was the foil to rick. Your vases david brent who david brent was so jealous off he was the other man if you will for all the people that david brent was trying to be worshipped by in his office This was the replacement manager when the brands were going to merge like. I think this was the guy who was brought in. And i believe the that that that the famous david brent dance completely results as a result of the trying. Hard of the david brent character to win respect because neil is getting it from all the employees for just being a nice guy so interesting choice on this actor as sort of the other guy who comes in and makes the original guy jealous if you wanna read it through the ted and rebecca lens. They're probably is a version of this story. Where ted meets the guy and starts to feel jealous about him and that's obviously not what the show did thankfully they didn't but it is interesting that that's the actor. How about the joke about wearing a red cap to a planned. Parenthood fund real third rail real dicey before. We landed that one but we do establish that ted went to a planned parenthood fundraiser. So that's the character that was a that's a third real. I agree that was like an opposite of the joke. That comes immediately after that where he just shouts stamos when she says his name is john and then all the wings jokes i end. The girl listened joke so that planned parenthood joke was a it was a little bit A little bit third rail for sure. Yeah i don't know i think it was. We had a little bit of isaac isaac as the new captain We always knew that that was in the works Because he was the vice. Captain roy past the armband off to someone gets more story this season two. I hope to see you know some even if it story through action. I just wanna see more of the character reading about reading. A lot of this stuff. Brendan done he's done Today he's done a lot of interviews and articles as we've pointed out. I believe in one of them. He said one of his favourite easter eggs from season. One are all the subtle moments from season. One that made it clear that roy saw isaacs leadership petir potential. It wasn't just throwing something at the tv. When jamie tart was on tv being jamie tart it was moving aside. So nate could sit down. It was little things like that where he stepped up on a human level. And so we see him helping. Danny here in this episode with danny is trying to get rid of the yips and kicking the ball in the middle of that shakespeare not supposed to say what is the podcast version of the word. My god guy a word that doesn't get entered as that. Which is what we yell yell. Whenever someone does the podcast equipment. The yips ted's general apprehension and immodest. We're mid-western skepticism. Talk about like hitting close to home for me. That was very funny about his his thoughts about. There's very funny. I do really want to see the roy speech. Not just because it's been talked about a couple of times now but because this is the kind of speech that made a racist. Wanna talk to his son about non things. So what is that speech. How old racist but also be seen as a moment of brilliant. I know this is a little bit walking back. Because like i did say like. I really wish that we had seen in. I expect that we will. I do think it also would have been great to would be great if we never see it and it's just like this legendary thing you know. If it's just something that like you know it will will will. The actual thing live up to the hype of the of the roy. Kent retirement speech. I'm not sure i'm not sure. So may maybe it's maybe it's better left as this thing that you just hear bits and pieces of speaking of which one of the things i had in my notes here to the clean up before we finished is we have a weird one off joke about the gin blossoms talking about hey jealousy and follow you down to of their hits and ted says no. Hey jealousy is their best zone. Follow you down is my favorite song. Don't you know that story. You don't know that story that you never mind. He doesn't tell the story. I don't think there's a story about the song specifically. And i don't know if there's a story about ted in the song but it's just so weird there's a story referenced here and we didn't hear it and it was sort of a never mind thing so i don't know if we'll get more. I don't think we're going to hear anything about this Follow you down again. But i don't have anything to add about why there could be a story. They're like why that would be ted's favorite song. I don't know about that i. I'm intrigued by that. But it would seem like maybe just a throwaway joke like the hamilton joke at the beginning of that moment. Maybe throwaway joke. I don't know i do love. The people are different people. That was such good like that. Was the truth bomb. That was dropped right. They saw such a good statement for the show. It's such a graveyard ism. Yeah great beard him. That wasn't lasso. Ism right like the. That was alaso via beard. Like so beautiful. I love that. I love the little joke to about the the earl memorial being on talk like just a dog moment. You know what i mean. You gotta think hear about and respected. Dog gives zero fox. Yes on it. I know a cat will too. Don't come at me just. It's just such a funny moment as such such a really really funny moment. Yeah the twelve thirty six. I don't know. I don't know what to say about that. That's something that. I don't josh. Don't play those numbers. Were mister robot or the leftovers. I would be twelve thirty six. Watch like insanely Saying like what is this going to happen. It's a care to die at twelve thirty six like is there is. Is that gonna be some key moment. And it just seems like a running like you said writer's room easter egg writer's room joe. Yeah i think it's probably jason. Today is pin is three six the exact combination on my luggage. One final thing. I want to end with because it's the way the show ends. Which is the live. Is life a song about. I believe by the band opus. I don't know if you pronounce the title of the song. Life is life or if you pronounce it live is life or life is life. I don't know how you pronounce it. But the song title is live is life in a place in the end credits here. I think at least for one. Main reason. I believe this to be a tribute to the late great diego madonna. Who is referenced in season one in a very uncouth. Way by jamie tart telling him to sell sam's mom that she should time back and meet maradona. Instead of sam's dad because maradona had this talent. and he's just this incredible magical footballer. Who did just insane things on the football. Pitch the likes of which we're never seen before and have not been seen since and truly just a magician and a wizard died. I think maybe a couple months into cova. Last year he lived the way he played football. He lived with a lot of a lot of stuff on display the very public problems with substance abuse probably contributed in no small part to his death. He didn't die of an overdose or anything but he had heart issues. I know there were some med mao medical malpractice suggestions that went on there. We don't really know why but he died and it was a major moment in soccer universe. There is a famous video him. Legendary video of him warming up before a soccer match. Wow that song is playing. And he's basically warming up in tune with the song he's dancing with the football like he's just doing legitimate like ups kind of magic just popping the ball around balancing on his head and its soundtrack to this song. That's playing in the stadium. So that feels to me. Like the shows tribute to the madonna and a way of saying like we love our football this show. This is a love letter to the sport in many respects. It would be wrong for us to not acknowledge this. We would feel like we should even though the guy had a super complicated life and had a lot of problems like what he brought to us. As football fans we cannot ignore it is also the song that liverpool fans have created sort of a song to our beloved manager. Jurgen klopp To the same tune of this song So immediately when i hear it that's where my mind goes so this is a football song. They did this in season. One where they use crystal palace's song at the end of one of the episodes sort of as a lincoln a nod. To the fact that crystal palace the franchise has been so kind to them in letting them use their home stadium as richmond. Afc stadium so are sorry. Afc richmond stadium so this could be a nod to a very popular football song. One that has meaning for lots of different football fans for different reasons. So i love that. This was the end of the. This was the needle. Drop at the end of this first episode. Sometimes we're gonna see once more on point right right where. The diamonds created an episode. That's where we diamond dogs song. This one i think was here as maradona tribute. Maybe as a shoutout to your klopp. As far as i know there's no liverpool supporters in that writer's room there the tottenham supporters. We have arsenal supporters. I don't know about liverpool supporters there. But that is. That's the song that means a lot to me. Just as the song. I i hear people chanting a lot for your klopp. So that's i think why that song was at the end and i don't have anything else. Started to talk so much here at the not at auburn. Lavender is the name of the next episode of ted lasso. Also something that you could put too much of inside of the soup. Yeah a little bit elaborate. Little lavender goes a long way. Let's see ingredients savory. I think i know. I know that's why i bring it up so lavender coming next and we're going to be back in a week's time chewing on that lavender seeing what's going on with all these characters antonio think really great kickoff to to the season a lot of things that were worth talking through an extensive way here is. We're setting the table for what's to come. I'm pretty high. I think there's like if i were to stack this against onto the season one episodes like there's still so much from season one i would put above this one but i also want to reserve judgment of like. I need to see where they're going. But i think that they put a lot of interesting things out on the pitch that we are going to. We're going to see where it all goes. And i'm really really happy about that. I'm really happy to be back in new last season. I was so thrilled watching this episode of few moments. Where were you. And i texted off line of just like oh my god. I can't believe it is the truth is there is a very last moment for me in my life where i said to you at like midnight on thursday night like it's up like ted lasso and then like five minutes later i just text you all caps. Omg and then. I realized that might let you know that. There's a omg moment in the first five minutes of the episode so then i said oh mg. I can't believe we're living in a time where we had last such for. Ted lasts thing for me to protect you with goofy joe's wonderful. It was it was absolutely wonderful. hit us up. We want to hear from you. Ted laso at post show recaps dot com. Get your feedback in will read it this show specifically if it is about the episode. That is really what we're looking for. If you got anything else right to us we'd love to hear from you. Ted lasso at Recaps dot com or you can engage us on the twitter bots matt round howard antonio's at ac missouri z's. How many ours is with the tuesdays in one artist like from before we are on patriots. 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This is the first time that i've podcast it about show live where there is sort of discord or some kind of live form like that. I was just so excited to see. That channel lit up in the bold letters On my discord at knowing there were new posts their people talking about the podcast people talking about the episode. It just felt very really cool to be part of that communication or dialogue. That was happening and that was so nice. So i'm so thankful to the people who are patrons and who are participating with this show in that way. But i'm so thankful to anyone who's listening. It's just so nice to talk about show that i really like about a subject. I really like and get back to podcasting in a way like this in a different way. Same but different metaphor josh. I've heard that maybe there will be a call back to that later. This season alright. We'll be back next week. Talking more ted lasts until then everybody take care bye-bye.

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