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035 Breaking the Pact
"Hey everyone welcome to snarf talk with Chris and Jerry and this is our podcast where we give you a behind the scenes look as we create a comic book. We're going to talk about TV movies Comic Books Folks and hopefully have a lot of guests the writers creators and friends check us out at SNARF COMICS DOT com you can check out our blog and follow along with everything we've got going on also follow us on instagram twitter facebook at snarf comics and please subscribe and leave a review on itunes enjoy the episode Sir and here we he is all right. We're back number thirty five. Is this thirty five thirty five man. That's pretty exciting it is I was thinking about it again today. On the road to fifty fifty I was thinking about like what honestly can you say that we that anybody has ever done like thirty weeks in a row consistently like going onto work perk does not that does not count. I don't like work but I do like this podcast. Yeah it's fun it's not I guess it's not necessarily that we've done it every day for thirty weeks but once a week yeah I think it's thirty because we started like weekly in January January didn't he. I don't know for the first of all they're going like once every other we like holidays that was that was back in our novice days boy where we belong. We became came professionals. Here's all changed little tip for everyone. Don't go back and listen to the first five. You don't need them. I mean you don't need them. I think the contents finest just the audio quality noggin yeah. We thought we were also yeah. We were a lot of people use those blue yetis but we just didn't use it efficiently no now or correctly so we got a little bit of excitement this week we do have we got a first timer here so we got a first time listener <hes> within within like two weeks yeah definitely two weeks in the last two weeks. <hes> this man just discovered the whole snarf talk. <hes> what would we call it movement. Yeah it's a movement basically and <hes> just discovered it fell in love and lately really lead over he'll alice. He fell through the looking glass the rabbit hole the rabbit hole yeah is it what's they stayed with president the looking glass no she falls in a rabbit hole but it's called Alice through the looking glass not the show. The book is it. I don't know I think so. I think made that up any case anyway. He's fell in love with with us all over again. <hes> he's been in love with me for quite a while. Thank accurate yeah <hes> and man he just said Ed Hey. I'm really interested in this podcast business. I would like to come hang out. Just watch yeah just master's work. I just want to sit over in the corner and watch you guys speak to each other. Yeah that's Weird Tim. I wanted one episode to kind of get familiar with how it doesn't work like that. You know we're going to three right in the fire. So who we have is Mr Tim McDonald here on the show with us and it's great to be here. We've we've mentioned on the podcast several times. I don't know if you've heard your name mentioned I have I just talked about your wife life. I think on the last one last one or the one it was the last one it comes out this week so last week last week's episode <hes> Yeah I talked about her because she got me super awesome deal on a Roomba. Oh really you've got one high did and it's life changing and amazing. We've we've named him Romeo and we have no meal has not named ours. Identities knows the name it in the APP. The APP tells you the name and the boys love naming everything. I don't think was named ours either though because we're a life changing though it's great but she out of nowhere this is the weird part so we were. I was literally looking at room buzz and like any robot vacuum vacuum <hes> like on Sunday night and the Sunday night prior to Amazon Amazon Prime Day and I was looking at him on best buy because I had a best buy gift card. I talked about this in the last episode this this is like a recap but <hes> I had like two hundred seventy three dollars to use off of a gift card and and she the very next morning I'm like I'm buying one getting on best buy. We're getting out care what it is that morning. She sent me a text and she's like hey. I know you're looking at these. He's a little while ago if you're still in the market but Amazon prime got really good deals and I looked it up and it's like the eight ninety the roomba eight ninety whatever and they marked art down from four hundred and eighty dollars to two hundred ninety nine and I was like shit like how do I get this with the best buy gift card. Well Amazon will let you switchover your gift cards to an Amazon Gift Garden. They take five dollars from you which I don't blame him. <hes> switch it over to an Amazon gift card and I got like a four hundred and eighty dollar room for thirty bucks thirty dollars. I find it odd that she's out promoting these because she was very against the Roomba Seattle was it was my doing Rehan was like me. I was against the room but how does Marley. There really wanted one but I kept saying I'm like the dogs even though our dog is never shit in the house yeah I'm like that's going to happen is going to run it over. You've seen the videos like this going to be terrible. Well now my dog like freaks out anytime vacuum cleaner on so I thought well we're GONNA work. He's going to be sitting there barking but he doesn't care it doesn't bother him. I thought the same thing with Zeus but he doesn't care about it at all well the overall recap of this. What if we had it like a week a week with with Romeo the Ruma he's amazing? It's great has everything you get home from work in the clean disgusting how much it's isn't it. It's really amazing. I I had a really hard time believing that it would do a thorough job really does somehow it. Does I actually on prime day regular vacuum cleaner. I already had a Roomba but you got to have another one. You know you're like a man but I bought one of them. Dyson ball wants Nice Nice even after the rumor does it's fantastic job. I use that thing and it's still picks up like a whole thing of doesn't amazing. I think it's a dyson family family for a while yeah so anyway I did see this new dyson thing they got which is just a light. Have you seen that that's like a desk lamp but and it's like wait a legitimate emit light a desk lamp okay but it has like it's easy to move and reposition and the lighting changes based on the environment. They're like eight hundred ninety nine because that's been something that has been weighing. I can't move my light. Get accurate in ambient lighting would worry about that like I needed to move my desk lamp a little bit easier than this sounds like one of those terrible infomercials were somebody's trying to read. Just like everything goes wrong. Pay Dyson lamp comes along and falls ever tried to click on your light and then the whole fellow. What is it a dyson desk lamb speaking of desks falling over it last night? I was on the phone. I and my daughter came running in. She's like Dad Dad Dad. She's trying to say something to me and I'm like yelling at her. I'm like I'm on the fog and so about five minutes later. After I get off the phone I go in there and our entire gigantic dresser had completely fallen over he's sent me a picture of and luckily it hit against the bed which like propped it up but she was under the bed stopped it and she crawled out completely unscathed eighth. That's unbelievable. Yes that's really bad. I'm like tie into the wall somehow they sell don't they sell them. Come Dresser but it's like one of those things you get your throat thing. My Dad's told me forever like especially when we moved into the new house he's better secure them to the wall. Boys are chimerical climb on them dressers now. They're not and then you send me that thing. Now I feel like all of our dressers are GonNa fall on the children. Your Dad's a smart man mink trapping expert. He is entrapping expert and he's the one who brought me nine more chickens today so I had seven out out of twenty left so the main kid dispatched thirteen of but now I've got a he brought me eight hens and and one rooster so have a rooster down does he crew big ricky today and I was like I'll go with that. We're going to name her. Big Ricky and Graham Graham just calls them boss but everyone else is gonNA call him big ricky and I'm just GonNa drive by Your House every every morning and then just post on Hayman. I can hear this rooster. That'd be good so anyway that was a that was is a Pittsburgh introduction of our guest yeah so Tim McDonald me and him you know went to high school together. He works for Hogan Walker Errands Hogan Walker. What do you do <hes> <hes> sell equipment sell equipment? Do you still do the whole what's called A._M._S.. No no I did that for like six years and then switched doing tim Ms Build Lifeblood of my operation heartbeat because every time in the fall or the spring about two times a year I call him in a panic. Something is not working and usually they call him back a half hour later and he's already figured it always happens. He calls me back like half an hour. I'm like never mind. I figured it is like I love getting phone calls from you and I just let them go to voicemail because I know in about a half an hour. You'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA get on purpose. No I know all the sales itself but no no definitely has helped me a lot over the years. That's really cool. So how did you what what made did you stumble upon snarf talk well. You obviously told me about it. Yeah I started doing you also obviously ignored us. Pull that stay up close to that and I feel feel bad for ignoring you original. No need to feel bad especially since your your sister in law and brother in law is actually so you're brother-in-law no no. He's not my sister. How does that work? He'd still be your brother of all right. I was wondering in an agreement that we're not brother-in-law game like legally you would. I don't know if you I don't think so like I never thought twice as Martha sister-in-law in my life his sister-in-law but we're not brothers-in-law why I don't. I don't think that's how it works. I don't think it's Everywhere Union U._D.. Brothers is in law by law. I don't know if we were more cordial to one another. We'd probably call each other brothers but anyway he's mayors. They both of them. Yes ultimum are big listener so I was reluctant to listen at first. I don't know why for one there long it's time I got I was GonNa say two things one because they are really long <hes> but with that length and driving around that's perfect anybody that drives around a lot you know I think long podcasts are perfect like I have a thirty five minute commute to work. It's all I listen to thirty five minutes of PODCASTS on the way home thirty five. I like the idea of starting one and finishing it at the same time you miss miss something you know I. I do a lot of half hour driving so it's like this is going to take four trips or five yes and see. I like that but another reason I thought that I I mean that most people don't listen to it is because we are centered around like Comic Book Entertainment. I think that's one of the biggest entertainment misunderstandings because a lot of people say say that to me. They're like don't really count books so I wouldn't listen. I'm like well. We talk about all kinds of shit right to be fair. We've promoted it that way. You know makes sense. It and nothing against comic books never really been my thing no problem with it but that was probably another hold up is just not my forte. Don't hold back Tim tells us but as it turns out I probably am more interested than in them than I thought. After listening and you guys talk about another good stuff yeah yeah so especially since a lot of the comic relief stuff we talk about is more based around like the movies and T._v. shows which are a little easier entry point for people I agree. I mean <unk> especially in today's Day and age I mean that's all people really take in. Is that type of movie. I mean it's it's forced in your face to to watch some sort of Superhero Comic Book Movie. Some people may not know like no that it came from a comic book look but it's coming from a comic book. That's a big thing that I think you could take away from this podcast. Is that a lot of the stuff that you had no idea was originally a comic book. You can and find out from us. Oh I would've smart but originally when this first came out. There was <hes> a lot of people that looked at US funny. They were like most people. Some people didn't know what a podcast was the people that didn't know what a podcast I was like why are you doing. That doesn't make any sense why you would do that. The other thing is I kinda had my set podcasts already like I drive a set amount of time and this this is what I'm going to ask you a podcast you listen to you know my favorite for a long time has been <hes> Malcolm glad well pub podcast called revisionist history is he the <hes> Ten thousand hours Guy Malcolm glad well no no. I don't know I don't know who he is one of his works but he references that okay tipping point was the first book by him that head anyway revisionist history. What's that one about? I never heard of that one <hes> just things that have happened in the the past that maybe we remember correctly and he kinda ties back into them. I've definitely heard of that one. That one sounds cool. It's very very good. He's yeah he did. He wrote that book outliers. That's where the ten thousand hours thinking okay ten thousand hours to be an expert at anything or something. Oh that's the guy yeah I was thinking. There was a work actually called ten thousand our the book was called outliers. Yeah Joe Rogan talks about it all the time his bid on the PODCAST. He's got Oh yeah I think so as he what else what else do you listen to <hes> freakonomics. Oh Yeah I listen to that. I haven't listened to that in a long time. I really liked it. I I've only listened to it kind of started to get a little political and then I kinda I would agree not that I care but I'm just not. We're not political. People know enough say I don't know and I don't and it's has basically no part in any of our podcast. That's one of the things I like about because yeah I mean what what do we have. What do we have that has any weight in what political anything is in the world right now for just two guys on my point my point is it's all bullshit so there's no reason to play the game? That's what I mean. Even speak about it for you. Don't listen to Joe Rogan. That's not regular podcasts as I'm personally. I don't like short podcast. They drive me crazy. I don't like feeling rushed through a format quickly <unk> and we tried it. We were trying to cut these down to like it hour hour and a half at the longest. It's impossible for us to do. We can't even basically get through one thought in an hour I mean really it's super hard to get through what we want to talk about in an hour and have it worthwhile it. Just it's not what we do so we always talk about this. Whenever we have a new guest on so I'm GonNa ask you so me and Jerry are obviously are nerds? <hes> and we've talked about in the past what through our lives through our childhood got US interested in in the movies we like or whatever like that everybody a is a nerd for something whether it be comic books or movies or music or anything comedy. Is there anything that you have like that got you into nerdy pursuits growing up like anything you remember that jumps out at you and then you've got obsessed with. I mean it's a pretty cliche answer because I grew up as a farmer. My Dad's a farmer but I guess farm toys okay. That was pretty dirty about that. I mean I've got oh. That's definitely definitely hundreds and hundreds of farm toys still have all of them. A lot of them are in tubs in the basement but at your house or are they at your mom's <hes> some of each I mean if you walk in my kitchen above my cabinets is all toys. You know that's kind of nerdy. Did you used to be the toy show all of that. Yeah I think the people in our grade that you guys in the same class. I don't know why obviously I knew Jerry earlier because we grew up as you know yes when we were little but I totally remember Tim a lot more in highschool than I remember you really Nice School. Oh yes it's because he's taller. It definitely can be right over the top yeah. I think Tim are officially our tallest podcast guests in hotels dude. He's not he's not no. I mean he's pretty tall. Don't get all gets blurry when I look at all of these yeah. You are pretty tall taller you six to oh you are oh. I didn't know that Gosh there's only one person we could ever having a podcast that would be taller. That'd be like Nick Schaefer Robert Wexler. Oh Oh yeah he's pretty tall. He's six eight. That's crazy yeah. That's really tough. I don't think he'd ever be on the podcast. Though I think he would Robert I don't. I don't think so him and I are on the park board together so I can ask them. We don't ever have park board meeting so I'll see him around one of these days I guess I did you ever get into any sort of superhero comic book quote Unquote Classic Nerd stuff when you were younger star wars anything I appreciate it star wars but never got real. No thought we might the one on the one thing that I know of of you that you have a deep deep love for is Seinfeld. This is true that totally counts yeah and that's what I thought yeah I'm with you. Were talking about your favorite T._v.. Shows and you're talking about Seinfeld. I was hollering at Aradio. Beefs was on that episode not that was going to say it was like my number one or two three was it I I can't have above. I didn't even have to put the Sopranos Number One. Oh yeah expected breaking bad from number one that way. That's what it was breaking. I had sopranos breaking bed head Seinfeld Yeah. That was a great top three though I don't remember what mine were firefly firefly which I had firefly fly in my top Dr who maybe maybe doctor who denied grubs. Maybe how hard of decision is that because I dr who like changed my life for a wilder for many many years I just was obsessed with Dr who and that's all I watch and <hes> in it landed at like five number five. I think I had to have something like that. So after listening to that episode I tried coming up with my own listing. It is very hard to do. NETAPP had some list eight line one show that he would've allowed jeopardy that would have been no that in there though to dateline above jeopardy David's. It's GONNA be so upset that Tim's on the podcast before I have to tell you a funny little secret so when I was driving earlier today I I actually listened to that episode. <hes> the one after the T._v. shows were David has rebuttal. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah <hes> so after I listened to it I called David and I very rarely I see them all the time all the time but I rarely call in the middle of the what's wrong and if you know he actually answered that's a shock for one. That's a rare but anyway we ended up talking for like forty five minutes about this podcast. We made a pact at the end of the conversation that we wouldn't tell you guys is and here I am like eight hours later. I broke the pack and told everybody literally told hundreds of thousands <music> of listeners millions possibly we're. We're almost there but not he's GonNa be angry. That's funny. He won't here's a couple of weeks so you got got some time quite funny when you do you might WanNa tell them on your own phone. Oh no no that is funny. Why would you make a pact to not tell us that you're talking about our show? Oh Oh no you both like we don't want you to get a big head. Okay can't get much bigger so so I told you when I got here that my daughter insulted me. When I left the House yes <hes> what about so I was very dirty from work and I had to change clothes and when I walked out to leave and mom told call me you look like Uncle David why I have no idea I can't figure I can't figure it out? I would ever say something like that. It is better than every time I leave to go to a podcast my kids go down and you're going to do a podcast yeah yes. It's like so happy that I'm leaving the house. Lay in bed with your early. All of my children are probably going to be in the bed with amy when I get home. It's like a punishment I tell her that okay well. Mom's GonNa punish me again tonight because going to do a podcast and all the boys will be in the bed. Grandma won't be grandma always goes to a script but the other other two will probably be in there and then. I'm usually too lazy to do anything about it so I'll either sleep in their bed or mine on the couch. Yeah that happens a lot at my whatever so based based on <hes> so exciting because based on what you've told me what I know. Is You have whole gigantic world world of things that you have not experienced yeah. This is true. That's true this podcast. You're going to get to experience for the first time which some of these things out kill I would kill to go back and be able to do it yeah well. I'll tell you so it was before listen to this podcast. I had never seen any of the marvel movies any of them. I don't even I don't even it's possible so series hidden. No I can tell you why it is changed since I finally I started at the beginning and I started to go yeah you have to <hes> but here's why I was thinking about this why I had never watched him. This is an interesting take mix. I'm really excited so you know the movie. No country for old men came out and Fatima's two thousand seven probably yeah I remember the same year transformers came out and I just saw those movies as being on two separate separate ends of the spectrum one of them. Has this great plot great story. There's not even music in the movie. It's just a great movie with a great story yeah and then transformers is the opposite as you know. There's a very weak story. It's built on special special effects. It's the garbage terrible terrible movie so I do like optimus prime so at that point and I decided you know I like movies with plot and story and I'm not a fan of special effects while then like the next year ironman comes out and it's like Yep. That's another movie like transformers and I was wrong. It took me ten years to figure it out and I was. I was very wrong. That's why I just kind of. I can understand this against yeah but you did yeah I did know you were a high flute and art critic like real movies but I didn't pretentious and just a little bit about it whatever we've been there. I don't have time to watch all the movies that I want so I'm going to pick the movies with a good plot especially now but as it turns out those movies have have very good plots and this this is what Chris Anais advocacy is all about is like the story of comic books like any any of the story that you get out of comic books is probably better than most of the story that you get in in especially in a who did a transformer Michael Michael Bay Michael Bay moving right. Give me a break. No like obey does to be fair. There's plenty of movies that are trash sure I like Justice League yeah one terrible story I would captain marvel in my opinion the very weak movie I wouldn't call it trash but it's week because it's it's just generic action movie movie and Special Effects He kind of movie and it's a generic like now we're at fits in where it's part of the cinematic universe less twenty movies you have to have. It's a puzzle piece right. That's what's different about this but if you take a stand alone like justice league or or something like that yeah it's a special effects kind of movie Batman shoots guns and kills people and that's stupid but I'm totally I mean we don't talk enough about the all the other kinds of amazing movies that we love. We should talk more about them like I'm a huge fan of the more pretentious it just kind of cinema to. I love those movies. You know I love nor no country for old men. If I had a top ten list have we done our top ten movies like general movies. That's that's what that's what Tim and I were just talking about because he was listening to our top ten movies and I've got what number was it. It was number three three two or three or four where I had <hes> Eternal Sunshine for the spotless mind how carries in it but see. I hadn't heard that episode when we were talking about that. Oh you had that clip of Jim Carey do right Jack Nicholson movie. Oh I thought you had no not not as that time. Oh Oh I thought you did they hit been listening and listen to lots of other episodes but yeah that's why like probably four or five days later a click that yeah it was on your list. Oh also I was under the impression that lesson to it. That's why I was like spilling the beans on how that's one of my favorite movies. Oh then phenomenal movie I it is it's an incredible edible movie in the writing and the storyline of that is just it's unreal like I don't feel like you'll find another movie and it's incredible because I think Jim Carrey is amazing like absolutely amazing in that movie in anybody that says like I could never watch them in a serious movie because it's Jim Carey needs ridiculous. Watch that me gotTa Watch. Have you seen it yeah of course one of my favorite movies. Have you seen the clip of him doing Jack Nicholson in the shining but it's it's it's not actually him. It's called <hes> mm shoot. What's that called? I gotta look it up again because you sent it to me but it's actually a like a C._G._i.. Rendering of his face not really really I mean it is it is him but it's fake. No could see Jim Carrey doing that. Yeah that's the one thing about like the absolute flood of marvel movies that we've gotten over the last ten years is you do only have time time to watch so many movies especially when you have kids so I miss a lot of non comic book he related movies which is a shame mm-hmm for sure. I mean there's a lot of good stuff. I feel like that's come out in the last five years that I haven't seen yet one the other day. Somebody was telling me about Madonna H._B._O.. What I mean to watch it is <hes>? Is it bad times at the El Royale or something like that yeah. I heard that was really good. Eric told us to watch so I WANNA watch that and I don't know there's lots of stuff like that. I Really WanNa see once upon a time in Hollywood Tarantino's new movie. That's the twenty six Friday yeah so I definitely want to see that. I haven't seen Spiderman. No you can't talk about it yet. No no we cannot yeah. It's it's fun to hear a take. Take on your side of things on those movies because we don't normally have that well. It's so funny because before the comic book movies became a thing <music> so like the entire time we were in high school and college and then for like six years after I was out of college they didn't really exist so oh I was kind of a film snob. I like watching like independent movies. I watched every like independent movie that came out. I followed directors and stuff like that but I feel like. I don't don't really do that as much anymore. No I don't think not I don't really think anybody does in that but when you're just watching these big block buster after movies that keep being shoved down your throat and they are. I mean marvel key core amounts pixar because you have kids. That's about the only things that we watch but yeah I do feel like we're at a point of not necessarily like market saturation to where you don't WanNa watch it anymore but to where it's like Gosh it's like so much stuff yeah and that's where I met especially with T._v.. Shows and all the streaming stuff. I cannot keep up with T._v.. Shows anymore anymore night. There's no way to do it so many people have said like Oh. Have you watched. Have you seen this all yeah. I saw the first episode but I needed to finish these thirteen episodes in here I and severely cutting into our writing yeah exactly and that's or even reading like we used to read a lot more than I have before but I just started doing more of that again because I was like I gotta I gotta quit staring at this time because it did feel like work for a while because because of this podcast that felt like I had to start watching all the head but backed out I feel like I've taken them little more. Happy medium big yeah a big time big time and I mean there's still some shows that I'm absolutely going to watch and there's some shows that I need to finish but not doing it as a job lab anymore not enough hours in the day to watch everything you want to it is impossible it is unless of course I just quit my job and live solely off of Amy's income. You know you still wouldn't be able to not necessarily possible but I can treat you like a guy can try if I could take one one day a week of work yeah with my kids in daycare. I could really be on top of things you could. You could slam some things I feel like eight hour or stretch once a week. I can't say this technically publicly because people I work with listen to this podcast but I don't know I may be sick once a week yeah but then again what are they gonNA say your boss. I mean right right sure yeah Tim can. He's got his own office with its closing door really yeah yeah wish I had a closing door. You don't have a closing door though oh I got this big window though everyone can see now blinds now and probably like every single person that walks into their parts just like meanders over of course I know I I'm Gonna I'm GonNa Start Start the writing process and so I started some today but actually I I actually wrote like six words and then I was edited a bunch of stuff because I just saw red lines and I was like those are bugging me so I started fixing some things but but it's on a separate I saved it <hes> in a word document and I sent it to myself at an email so I could write at any point in time that I wanted onto because like my work computer won't get into Google drive because of security reasons so I save it just in case I want to write it random periods of time and I started bringing it up and staring at it and then we good I it is I mean really it's better than not bringing it up at all. I keep telling myself I'm like eventually eventually. I'm going to get caught up because I start from the spring. I don't feel like summers even started yet now and it's like almost over really yeah. That's sad I I know it's crazy. This year has been such a shit show that really don't understand that. No you really most people don't but you could probably use some rain right now. Can you take all right now. I don't know about all the rain we tested that but about that so one thing I was going to be on before we get into the news because we've got a bunch of news right Yep. Tim had some Pixar a beef beef all beef. He's got beef. I WANNA have everybody's entitled to their own opinion. Jerry thank you the good dinosaur core I have been physically attacked and had death threats sent to me about the good human being a pickup Miami tomorrow. We're going up this weekend and we had a road trip and we were listened to it. I'm like hey. Let's listen to that Pixar movies. You'll like that so we listen and you said that your dinosaur and I swear to God on prompted for me. She's just like what is he talking about and then we got up with the other people in a car with six other people yeah and Marley's said to the other person goes Jerry said the good dinosaur was tenth pixar movie and everybody in the cars like what that would be terrible. I don't know why guys thinking so terrible because it it is I mean why. Why do you think it's bad? It's just like it's just a waste. It's a waste waste. It's like <hes> what's the movie where the Guy Finds Signs of a wolf and they become friends that movie <hes> oh <hes> White Fang Fang. Is it White Fang or the call the Whitehall the wild. I think it's called the why is that a movie. They're making a call while movie right there we have it was an old movie. They're making Yeah I think he liked befriends this wolf and they're buddies. It's the same thing it was easy thing. It might be a similar story but it was not well done Yup Harrison Ford to start a new call of the wild movie. We're still talking about the tenth best movie get well. There's only twenty one of them right Right Korea. I made my list of all of them and I've seen twenty of the twenty one which what have you seen <hes> cars three haven't seen that no. I don't know why what's what's your tatton. Oh yeah bring that up. I WANNA get this. I want to get some. I feel like he's GonNa. He's GonNa agree with me somebody. What else do they agreed with me on that? Was You agree with me on that picks for the nineties avengers Oh yeah yeah. I can't remember what what Tom Cruise Captain America yeah. He's a very get captain America. I think he's too short. It doesn't matter it's magic man now now it's not did you see how short Chris Evans was before he he became captain America. Well that's true that's true. After you take that Super Soldier Serum your out. That's what I mean. <hes> there was debate about thor and I think think Brad Pitt would be a great thrower. Oh yeah that was the other one I did. I pick a store somebody down Daniel day-lewis or something Jerry Lewis for doctor strange yeah if you start at the beginning of the marvel movies. You've probably got the doctor while you're in surgery yeah to great one. It'll it'll take me like the major but I'm working through them systematically like you oh boy the only thing that stinks is some of those movies are significantly. I won't say better but AH improved by the theater theater experience they are. They're very good movies to see in a movie theater. There's been several marvel movies that I've loved loved the movie theater and then at home. I like them still but I'm just like I just thoroughly into him. I can't wait. We're going to absolutely have you back that God when you finish all of these so that we because I can't I just can't wait to hear your take on like the whole culmination of infinity affinity war and endgame right yeah. That's and that's what I WANNA get to obviously but I want to do it the right way. Somebody have somebody on twitter. The other day was saying because they announced awesome okay. We're GONNA talk about it but their release schedule coming up YEP and they're like oh I got oh no it was about endgame and they're like Oh. I got to sit through whatever twenty twenty movies or whatever it is to watch game how exhausting and I'm like there you've had ten years. That's your fault yeah. The only released two movies a year most of the time sometimes one movie a year three so I've gotten to the first avengers and I actually I cheated after that I went. I went to the next avengers but but I'll go back and watch all of them. That one's cutting very good now age of ultra yeah that was one of the weaker you're moving well and here's the thing the first vendors movie was great loved it. Yes <hes> and I realized that you would appreciate that without seeing all of the origin stories and I just wanted to see next avengers bro yeah so I skipped ahead. Watch that one what's in between the two vendors movies. I are meant to all a lot <hes> now because I've seen ironman too okay Captain America the First Avenger Oh you need to watch our no. I have no that we wanted to ben before so let's see I started with iron man. The Hulk Captain America Thor. I feel like there was that it was probably the Avenger I feel like there was one one more and then the and there's there's probably maybe maybe it was iron man to probably and then for the dark worlds and they're which that's after avengers right. That's what I'm saying in between the two of us. We don't really need to wash it. They kind of have broken up face right like I've made it all the way through the first phase by phase as for we're GonNa talk about that later because they're all they do all tie into it at some point like every movie I even found a way to make thor the dark world tie into it yeah and yeah we gotta talk about that anyway. What's your Pixar picks? So what what would I have to do this and first of all before you get into this. I can't even explain like the reaction. We've gotten on this Pixar list. Oh I wish we would have done it before yeah apparently everybody I mean obviously everybody loves Pixar. It's <music> but like everybody's universal so universal thing yeah. A lot of people have kids but let's be honest. That's just a good excuse. It doesn't matter because everybody's seen these movies the toy story right so many of these were made before I had kids you. Your kids are pretty arguing about the same age as mine but so what were you want me to do this. I did all twenty <hes> just yet ten to one okay. Monsters Inc is ten and finding Nemo is nine number eight is toy story four seven inside out six ready to e five incredible to four toy story. Two three two is toy story three and number one is cocoa cocoa. Get that I'm like you know I think we ranked coastal and here's my list out where the good dinosaur or is number twenty twenty and you haven't seen twenty one right. I mean wait wait you had cars above good dinosaur but just barely nineteen and actually bug's life brave. I feel like you should have put brave. You know y higher I know I don't know here's the thing if I really weren't seventeen. Go ahead. They're all good except for one well except for two and car cars two cars. I don't think braves very good. I don't think cars threes very good either see I. It's all right up. I'm not not a huge fan of up. I didn't put in my time zone. Hi It's decent. It's number eleven for you. Yeah it belongs because some Boeing Toy story yeah. That's crazy the original toy story number twelve yeah I duNNO I. It's hard choice story in the top ten because it was yeah right otherwise it's not a strong movie as some of the other ones. I don't remember where I put it. I mean toy story. Two and three are clearly better than toy story one but I gave him this nick value yeah. If you'RE GONNA make that list yeah. There's different ways to look at it. Just say as far as what movie I would want to watch now. That's probably where toy store they'll see. Top has always given me the the argument without Coco is telling me about Coco before I'd ever seen it because I hadn't watched it. It didn't really like stick out to me as a movie I would need to watch it didn't like grasp me by any sensitive imagination and then I watched it and it's just like visually this astronomy and the story is really good too original gary original. Yeah I do feel like it was it was too low. We we read it to them and it's got a nice little twist in there that you don't see coming right you know let's just get yeah even enjoy it that much though they don't care about kids liked it a lot but they don't re watch it a lot now. As much as they've re watched the toy story movies like toy story three they watch all the time. Do they really and toy story two yeah. That's probably a good example of a movie that appeals more to older kids than my age kids coa cocoa. Yeah I would agree with a group that for sure Yeah Yep. That's a good list but I still think good day good. I thought this was like a safe place where we can have our own opinions yet. No I'm just a cost it and attack obviously on the street. People were throwing rocks last Saturday for no reason a little boys like talk the good dinosaur. It's like hey get off me kid and no way DO I. I want you to back down and say all right. That wasn't good. I want you to stick to your guns. I want you to know that I think you're idiot. Oh I fully it throwing rocks. You can be like good dinosaur. More like cad Dina snores that that's from like Billy Madison Uh hilarious Chris Job. I thought it was funny. No nobody did news. Let's get into the news we got some A._D._T.. We got some news here very very official. Go no go ahead. I don't have any so go ahead. Oh you don't who are your the backbone of the news department well. I don't. You're are Bryant Gumbel okay. I don't have a hundred jumble of news guy or sports guy. I think he's a sports okay. WHO's your Tom Brokaw who he's respected newsman what about Walter cronkite both Turk right art? Yeah yeah okay anyway so marvel like set the world on fire over the weekend because of so San Diego comic con what's going on. That's a huge guy mccown across the nation in San Diego. Everybody goes there and hall H.. is where all the big stuff happens so once people go to haul h there that's where all the big news gets thrown out and marvel was in Holly H. and they started announcing their whole phase for land for movies. It's been in a Lotta speculation. Yes I mean there's been a ton I mean the most of it was all accurate accurate speculation but they just gave basically dates and times use and people involved with all of these movies so let's see they announced <hes> thor the biggest one was thor thor is called love and thunder yeah and it's going to star Chris Hemsworth Tessa Thompson and Natalie permanent yeah she's back in and and she's from Dora no thor the dark world on. I remember that yeah. She's like the main yeah it's in one yeah. I guess I suspect the scientists in the U._S.. Right either way she's coming back because she was not thor Ragnarok. No was not in rapid. She made a brief appearance of endgame game was like a flashback as a flashback but <hes> that'll be good so what I'm super excited about about this movie is you haven't seen Thor Ragnarok. I have not gotten ended that is on the top of the top. I hear that a lot it's very good so what is directing same director Tyco and it. It's set for theaters November Fifth Twenty Twenty one so they obviously haven't started production or anything yet but what really jumped out to me about this movie is the the overwhelming reaction on twitter facebook all the social media's of basically click beatty fake news stuff trying to make it seem like people are freaking out about Natalie Portman being door so but do you know what this is based off of this movie what the love and thunder you know at the movie is going to be it's based off the Jane Foster Thor storyline in the comics wchs which was a huge storyline really several years ago where Jane Foster Actually Becomes Thor Oh well more or less she wields mule near gets the powers of Thor so she actually becomes not thorne himself but Jane Foster is what they call her really so she actually becomes store. So the big thing going on was everybody was saying Oh all these men hate the fact that there's going to be a female thor but it's not true like there's been like you look I meant sections on those articles and everybody's like literally we know but to tweets that stupid people said that we're like really complaining but anyway no. There's that's what's cool about it. It's based on that story. Line was like the reinvigoration of comic book where Natalie Portman Jane Foster whose doors love interest actually takes the helm and become it comes store herself so also Valkyrie is going to be in it and what I'm excited about is I'm hoping and I'm sure it's going to happen okay. They're either. They're gonNA have Ortiz or end credits Beta ray bill. He thinks talking about baiter while they're doing. Jane Foster never thought they'd do that first of Mall. I didn't think they'd ever get Natalie Portman back I didn't even I definitely didn't think that but there's been a lot of hate on Natalie Portman in the calm. It's it's GonNa Bother me. I think it's let's get a bother me because all I ever WanNa see how bad ass stories and a movie yeah they're not going to do it and they're not GonNa do it. No because Natalie Portman is going to be I know and that's so as you are excited. I think that's going to be really cool to it will be cool. It was that bad ass store is in a movie because he's super bad acid. Comic books like really really bad ass. I never read that story a comic book run but I heard good things about it so we'll see next big news. I think this one's pretty big because it has been done once before and now it's coming back. What's that blade? Oh Yeah Blade bringing back another blade movie and starring. <hes> shit hit my her mile her Shalah Holly. Yes Oscar winner Ali yet. What was he in before? He looked like he just won an Oscar for the Green Book. That's what it was the green book. Did you see that now. I haven't seen that good movie remember. I talked about on the pocket now. You loved it a lot. It's surprised me because I didn't didn't have any interest in it whatsoever until you talked about double duty because he actually plays a villain in the luke cage netflix shots right. That's where I've seen him. That's where I've seen him from his Luke Cage Benetton stuff and he looks perfect the part he actually looks like young Wesley Snipes. Almost he really does yeah apparently Wesley Snipes commented on him. He's totally into into it yeah. He was fine with it. I don't know what people wanted. I'm excited to see a blade relaunch. I think it'd be cool. I liked played blade. Whenever I see the original Oh yeah all of them I liked that was like that was where like all other than the couple Batman movies and the old superman movies that was really the first I comic book movie? Franchise was the door yeah yeah it was it was even before X.. Men and they were good because I think the first one came out in like ninety nine or ninety four. I think yeah yeah <hes> next. We've got <hes> the next movie that's coming out doctor strange range. You're getting the very first movie that's coming out well. I'm not going in order okay just going by how I saw him. <hes> doctor strange in the multi verse of Madness in the Multi Verse of Mary Comic Bookie Sounding Title Benedict Cumberbatch cumberbatch that'll be great Elizabeth Olsen Ulsan scarlet witch Scott dickerson. I don't know who that Oh he's the director he directed the first one. It's in theaters may seventh twenty twenty one so that's coming out a little bit earlier so it'll be starting here pretty quickly and that is supposed to be the first marvel movie to move into the more horror <unk> horror genre really yeah. I didn't know that I mean. I don't think it's going to be like a rated R. Horror but it's supposed to be on that really repea- Kinda scary schools. That'd be cool. Yeah I'm into that. I love Doctor Strange. I think he's amazing <hes> so let's see what's after doctor strange we have you've <hes> where my aunt that one and then the internals talking about that one's definitely coming out with Angelina Jolie Kumail Nanjiani Ngoni yet Richard Madden Lauren rid law whoever that is Brian Terry Henry Selma Hayek Senate so that's the next one. That's going to be like you take a super obscure comic book that nobody cares or knows anything about just like guardians of the Gal. That's what they're going to do and everybody says that's going to be dumb because that was a terrible all comic Yup and then hopefully they'll make it amazing. Have you gardens galaxy. I have not gotten to that cash so jealous you you well. I'm trying to go in order for you. We're like super jealous because you are just stumbling upon things. That are the great I can't. I can't wait till you get to guardians of the galaxy yeah. That's why I'm excited to get you. Don't need the has nothing to do with the other movies previous to it so you can jump to that one any time we have. You listened to our top marvel movies yet the episode don't listen to it yet. I would say don't listen to and you've seen purposely didn't listen to it because I didn't want it to spoil a lot of want you yeah it will spoil. It'll spoil the movies for you and I don't want you a has. We talk in depth. I don't want you to have a certain like three existing right. Yes same reason existing Kareem reviews before I go see a movie because I want to go in with an open mind and you're going to have a certain expectation that we've put on these movies for ourselves and I don't want argued that because I I feel like it could ruin it could ruin like the suspense ruined the movie for You and then you're gonNA think well. Maybe this should have been better yeah. I don't like get you know what I mean yeah I do. I don't know well. The eternal like I said it was that was actually a Jack Kirby creation. There was talk that Keanu Reeves was going to be involved with the eternal Nelson they happy they didn't announce him as one of the people so. I don't know that's up here comes out <hes> yeah. That's <hes> November six twenty twenty so so it's just next year okay that's really soon and then <hes> let's see black widow scarlet joy. This is possibly the one I'm most excited about Johnson David harbors in it yeah <hes> Florence the you know and then there's O._T.. Faggot mail and Rachel Vice Yes Rachel Weiss Weiss directed by Cate shortland in theaters. May I twenty twenty. I'm super excited. It's a I think it's GonNa be a PRI PRI prequel Yup. That's going to deal with her past that she's always referencing but my most exciting thing about it. which is what I mentioned before on podcasts? I said they really need to do the bill and taskmaster Yup and so they're doing so they're doing and the pictures look amazing of him Chris. Ah Is he can see the future with that little contraption. You've got up there the little site last thing Oh yeah that's what you see the future sure but I'm super excited about that and that comes out really soon yeah may May I twenty twenty one yeah next spring next x one we got after that is Hawkeye TV series Yep with Jeremy Renner and original series that will also introduce Kate Bishop yeah streaming exclusively exclusively on Disney plus fall twenty twenty one which longtime from easy to me that they're pushing it off the twenty twenty one because we've heard about this for a while. All all of the marvel shows were way in the future. I don't think anything was coming this fall and then we've got a falcon in the winter soldier. Yes Falcon ownersh soldier. It was that yeah that one same people are going to be in that's but that's fall twenty twenty so that's not that far off but there is is a show called what if the first animated series in the M._C.. You with Jeffrey Wright as the Voice of the watcher and many actors from across the M._C._i.. Reprising their roles and voice talent have you ever seen or read any what if there was comic runs of what if but they've also done what if in animated I made it marvel shows in the past have yeah and they're basically like else worlds yes in all sorts world story of the same characters. It's really cool <hes> that's also it doesn't plus. That's coming summer a twenty twenty one <hes> then they've got Loki and original series Tom Huddleston on Disney plus spring twenty twenty one and then let's see what else do they want a vision Wanda vision so much stuff they got one more movie that you're forgetting and then Shang Chi e Yup and the legends of ten rings that Name Yeah Shanxi Ten rings that is a very very also little little known comic book which I've actually read some of the old ones not enough to know anything about it but so is that there is that what is that he's the martial arts so is that like a variation of Iron Fist yes so my guess is they wanted to take a shot at like a Kung Fu style sal movie which I'm a huge fan of sure so I'm totally into that. I don't know why they would do that and just not do iron fist. That's how I kind of feel. I feel like they could do a way a better job with iron fist. I totally get it. They want to introduce diversity and have like an Asian based movie with an Asian lead but they could have done with iron and I too and that's a way more I know that in the comics he's not Asian but he could be in the movies who cares what the difference anyway. That's like getting into into Little Mermaid. I think it'd be cool. I'm into it. That's a hot button. Here is a little bit of an issue <hes> <hes> they also announced Captain Marvel to Black Panther too and gardens the galaxy volume three but way in the future and yeah and they've said James Gunn has said for sure that thor thuerer is not going to be involved with it which I think we talked about this last episode to that because everybody was talking about how they wanted it called as guardians of the Galaxy Right <hes> not gonNA happen so yeah no that was super exciting like the marvel stuff was definitely the stuff that's been blown up but there's tons of other cool comecon revelations relations. Do you know some of the other ones <hes>. I don't know you tell me well. I may have some of them down okay. Well let me see here the first one they did the trailer for the new Terminator Movie. Oh No I have not seen that and you know we I saw trailer for that terminator movie a long time. They are such trailers already bounce. Sarah Connor is in it again original Sircana here. Have you seen the trailer Yeah Hamilton Yep. Have you seen did you. Are you a fan of the Terminator series. Only <hes> yeah I yeah definitely I mean all of them but terminator two you don't I've seen one and two and one of the other. I'm pretty sure James Cameron has said Adler none of the other movies fall in line with the actual timeline. Oh really yeah like he said this is going to be a direct sequel to t- to the the trailer for the Witcher Netflix series they did. I think Henry Cavill Henry Cavill is the main character Rault. Both I believe that's exciting. I played the game. Yes I liked it a great game the witcher three yeah yeah that was a time suck a who you that that sucked so much time out of my life it caused a rift. I my wife and I it was like do you love your do but not as much as game. It was a problem they announced Topgun to others. I so I have not been able wash the whole trailer yet. Well I started it. In every time I started it. Something has happened to where I've had to set my phone now another bullcrap thing in in life where kids and work all these things don't they know. I have a trailer watch you know it was it was great. I've I've been seeing a meme going across like facebook and the Internet's in it says you know who doesn't care about the new <hes> topgun trailer and it's goose stain on this. This is just dead. Boilers based on that trail based on my trailer solidifies his pickers Captain America now but I don't think it's a bad pick. It looks great. It looks really good. Dude days thunder to they should days of thunder to I'm eating is crane. That's definitely good movie. I like <hes> <hes>. What's that one movie risky business well? Didn't we already do this all started naming. All of Tom Cruise and there was a lot of negative things things to say about minority report. I know you do all I had to say about. Vanilla Sky Scott good but minority report is good movie. Okay born on the fourth of July yeah he litter. Tom Cruise is literal. Birthday is the fourth of July and he can't be Captain Trafton America what is wrong with you know the more I say it is like wait is yes and he was in the movie born on the Fourth of July. Yeah that's crazy. What's what's is your favorite? Tom Cruise movie my favorite movie. I'll let me think about that. I got to look up a whole list. That's what what I'm doing. This could be a whole segment it should be. I mean he's been in Seoul manny the name some I. I know what I gotTA. Bring up. I gotTa Bring Them Up. Take a look at him. Oh my gosh so many he was in. I don't even need to look at this so I reign man Michelle lateral. That was a good one. Yeah that's it. That's yours yeah collateral. That's a good all these other ones but I do love that movie interview with the Vampire Jerry Maguire yeah all the mission impossible's a few good men aw come on man this all yeah. That's a good one tropic thunder he's Great. He just came back ahead. I forgot about that. I heard that movie american-made. It was really good. I haven't seen any rain man. That's a good movie yeah. He's got a lot holy. What's the one so many movies the firm taps endless Lad Gen? That's the one I'm thinking of legends. Remember that movie. I don't <hes> it was a good movie using the outsiders come on so what would be be. My favorite would be probably a few good men. I'm this. I'M GONNA have to pick. I loved the mission impossible movies. I don't care choosy and stuff off but I ain't all good first. One wasn't cheesy at all. I don't think I don't think any of them were like three. That was a good one <hes>. I haven't seen the last one I heard there was a really you know what I like. Is the whole Valkyrie lived. I repeat edge of tomorrow. Yeah I was GonNa say for me. It's between tomorrow and this one is not a popular choice. Okay the last Samurai good movie yeah I yeah. I think that's phenomenal movie. I don't think that's a or McGuire wire one of those three. I'm not a huge Jerry Maguire fan movie. It's okay but days fonder too yeah what the heck collateral is definitely not the most artistic kissed of those movies movies Jamie Foxx he's Green. That's really good. What are we talking about? Yeah we're we're we owe top to all right so they also now. They did a trailer for the DC Universe Animated Harley Quinn T._V. Show yes they. Did you watch him. I saw that yes and Tom who does kayleigh cocoa. Yeah how you pronounce your name Yeah. He didn't know that no from the Big Bang theory she's the voice of Harley Quinn Yeah Yeah. I thought it looked great I was I thought it looked really funny and it's very adult. It's clearly rated R.. It's four adults belts. They've promoted it as they're like fucking all kinds yeah yeah yeah yeah so that looks cool. I'll probably watch it <hes> yeah. It's a streaming APP. I mean I'll probably at least check out one episode of it just to see how it is another ones. They announced a New Star Trek Show Star Trek Card to card. Yes and there was a trailer for that. Did you watch watch the trailer so in that trade I was my favorite of I'm not a huge star Trek Guy. I love the Star Trek's. That was my favorite series wouldn't wouldn't what's his name Patrick Stewart. Yes that's next generation right. Yes and I've never been a big star Sky But star trek guy but that's the only one that I've really watched and I it was the one that was on when we were kids and I do remember that but in the trailer he pulls open the drawer. It's like the steel drawer and there's data in there in pieces like its face and his body and everything showing that he's going to be in the show. It's pretty cool. They announced a couple things T._v.. Things so doom patrol and titans got renewed for season two. That's exciting cancelled agents of shield which is Kinda can. I thought they did that a long time. It was a good show. I just started just started but I thought that was the new episodes. I thought that was is put out a while ago that that wasn't coming back. I don't know but maybe it's a shame has a good show <hes> they announced on the C._W.. Series of shows that are doing a huge crossover event crisis on infinite earths and did you see about Superman and they're bringing back Brandon routh from Superman returns wants to play a version of your man's going to different superman's yes from different earth and I'm excited about that yeah I liked him as Superman. I don't care I liked that superman movie <hes> doing to superman DC animated movies. The one of them that stuck out to me was doing superman red son which it was a great comic run that I actually did right. Isn't that that one movie that came out recently. It was kind of a play off of that. I don't think so that recent movie where Superman was bad had I was maybe death of Superman pick him up pretty recently. No no no. It's called something else <hes> I don't know but that's coming get really bad reviews and they a announced they're rebuilding in the comic side the whole X. Men Franchise in the comics and it's going to be led by Jonathan Hickman. Yes what is that called X.. Madonna Vex vex something like that yeah so that'll be cool. Hopefully don't ruin it might give me get me back to buying X.. Comics which I don't think I've ever I've never really done bought an ex-man offering yeah. I've read a lot of building green stuff but I've never really bought X.. Men that was most of my comic CON news. Do you have any other stuff. No that's basically all I had a Kevin. Smith had his trailer yeah <hes> Kevin Smith so that's a big thing reboot Kevin. Smith's new movie trailer came out. I think it looks great. It looks really good and the biggest surprise that that came out of that is what Ben Affleck Ben Affleck is back and they posted he posted like along weepy yes so. Are you aware of this so you a big big fan. You Know Kevin Smith of course. Are you a fan of his. I really know about his work. Yes so we're we're. We're like Rabid Kevin. I am Ben Ben Affleck. Oh right because I don't count for anything. Thanks I didn't speak for Britain. He was a maverick Chris doesn't want to speak for me so Ben Affleck was huge at I started out in all of his movies and then for some reason they've had a little rift clearly explained it ever. I never realized it was a riff. I just thought he kind of moved out. I think at first it was and that will I don't know but I knew about it was that when all that stuff was going on okay so benefit like it was in Jersey girl and that's when he had that big public split with Jaylo Oh yes remember Yup and the news was all over it and a apparently at first of all that was there was confusion between Jersey girl and Geely he was a massive failure that was him and Jennifer Lopez but him and Jennifer Lopez were also in Jersey girl and it came at the same time and it was kind of a massive mm failure yeah pretty much even though Jalen was only in it for like literally two minutes yeah but after that they had kind of they he he just kind of distanced himself I guess yeah from everything which makes sense and a couple of years have gone by they weren't really talking to friends or whatever and having would always on his podcast and stuff make comments about Ben Affleck or make fun of them about something not not negative. Not Thank friendly like like this is my friend. I can say this but he said a couple of things which I guess made it more difficult news media wise for Ben Athletic so like it just got it just brought the news back to asking questions about them that just made his life more difficult so and then and then later on there was a movie that he was maybe it was when he became Batman and Kevin Smith it said some stuff and I remember it kind of made the things more difficult for him. Yeah I remember that because I remember Kevin Smith like backpedaling on all that stuff saying like listen. I didn't mean it that way like you guys are taking this way too far. I remember that so I think I think what happened. More is this Ben Affleck kind of just distanced himself in general because whenever Kevin would say anything about him yeah it would make his is life more difficult and I know Kevin Smith brought that up to like he he had talked about on the podcast about like every time I bring up Ben Affleck like blows up in my face in everybody's like attacking me I think they got into a little tiff about that and then they just Kinda quit maybe we should contact them and kevin was kinda like that's just what you say in these interviews it's not anything that he actually means he's just kind of being friendly and so a couple of weeks on buying his wife and his kid and other people kept saying like no i think you need to contact them like at least send a text message what's worse he can say no so he did did he ended up sending him a text message i think about the movie and <hes> just can reaching out to him and then <hes> he came back and i said i'd do it i'd love to do it and so then obviously kevin smith got like super emotional that's what he does now ever ever since he started smoking weed all he does this crowd everything and <hes> he he cried about it and then they ended up getting them in the movie which i think is absolutely amazing and he's reprising using his role as brody now jason leask what's his name the holden holded normally these two different it's holden ryan mcneil plays two different characters in in the reboot no in like the original movie yeah in the original movie played different characters and annan jane silent box strike back he's in it as two separate characters i believe yeah yes because he's a different character in mallrats as he is in and i don't know some of the other as he is in chasing chasing amy completely different guy yeah so anyway i'm excited about that the trailer i thought looked great it looked just like jane's bob substrate back at it's going to be exactly the same but we're we have a smile on smart we have snarf talk road trip we do coming up october october october twenty first we're going to premiere in chicago with kevin smith and j muse live cuna afterwards you go and watch the movie and then they come out excited for that smart guest jersey yeah you can't i should get one he doesn't wear jerseys anymore that's okay you need to wear a blazer salts what he wears that was cool yeah yeah is that weight loss thing or i think he just he retired the jerseys for some reason i think it was because he lost all that way he lost the way and then i don't know somebody was making fun of him that he need to start dressing better i don't know he he wrote a whole thing twitter about you did so that was big news <hes> other the man i think that's all i really got from <hes> the comecon end what i did want us <hes> throw out there is that i was looking at <hes> some of our top cities that listened to the podcast just happened to be glancing at the cities that people are listening to assume kazan illinois and now there's a lot more there was like a in the last ten episodes but he had a top fifty three cities <hes> and one of the top cities that i just want to give a big shout out to is coxsackie new york really thank you coxsackie zacky just just north of albany you got the big coxsackie who's listening in coxsackie dono if you're listening ending in coxsackie you best be sending us a hard tweet tweet instagram a big swollen on instagram we had a bunch of techie we had a bunch of other countries too right yeah we do i can tell you those are kind of fun to look at but i just wanted to give a big shoutout to coxsackie cox and it's literally spelled c. c._o._m._e._x. s. a. c. k. why do you say that other cats sacchi i don't know i'm sorry i'm a child just it caught me by surprise the next big comecon coming up we're also doing a snarf talk road trip to and that'll be <hes> when is that jerry do we have an idea when it is of what wizard world chicago died have not looked it up i'm sorry so in preparation for that because when you listen to this it's only going to be a couple weeks away august twenty second to the twenty six we will be there giving away merchandise so and comic book yep <hes> there's trista jason mamo is gonna be there venza gwalia okay that is no the either pronunciations spot on and then there's there's castle franko benito bonetto what are you talking these are cities these are cities that have listened to the podcast okay there's streator peter illinois never heard of that let's see where else glasgow scotland no we're big there we have quite a few listens sends you know who's going to be a comic con in chicago george went who's that i know that name <hes> norm from cheers oh north oh really yeah a nice and henry winkler i'd like to me i'm a big fan i would like to meet him he's always good stuff so we've got it's three in the united kingdom two in the netherlands don't don't give numbers two hundred one two hundred and another sworn in hong kong new and then a couple in costa rica might have an idea who the hong kong persons we'll see who i don't know he's i i like you said we'll see if i know enough that's funny melissa joan hart is going to be to chicago com account so sh- come on sabrina larussa explains at all what did she actually explain throughout any of that life yeah come on did you ought clarisa i did some of it not all of it i never had we didn't have cable growing old nah not really i don't think so for clarissa explains explains it all feel like you were to feel like you were too young i mean i'll always be under the new but i feel like you were high school now i feel like that was when i was a kid but the the only time i ever got to watch anything that was like disney nickelodeon or anything that was murdered a hotel so we got to hotel was like binge on nickelodeon really yeah so we don't have cable we lived in the country's hair we didn't either my grandparents are safe haven to watch the garbage really i had a satellite dish ish grownup only satellite dishes that existed when i was a kid where the gigantic ones that when you switch channels it went yeah no i know when they when they got to be small like a small one we got one right away well see we did too but i was in high school or no way because it was called fifth korea was called prime star direct t._v. wasn't anything now we had one we had one from direct t._v. and then we had like one box in the basement but it had a little r._c._a. infrared repeater in front of it and then every tv you put it that r._c._a. infrared repeater and you use your remote remote and it would seem the remote signal down to the basement to change the box yeah but it worked like twenty percents clicking there was like a latency that was ridiculous yeah speaking because my parents were too cheap to just like put the one didn't want anybody running a wire into the living room we've got i put it in the basement really yeah that's weird well speaking back then you had to be like ten thousand dollars for one time the fire tv recast that i have yeah fire tv t._v. recasts have you heard of this you know we have fire tv but i have not heard rica so the recast is a d._v._r. basically oh because i don't have like <hes> <hes> satellite or anything anymore i just do streaming services have put an antenna up <hes> and the antenna works great but what i was missing is that a lot of these shows that chris would talk about because chris started watching american idol this last year and i'd always watched american idol but i haven't haven't in the last year because i hadn't watched that show like ten years oh my god this season i loved it and but the problem is i'd always record it because it comes on at seven o'clock in it'll run until like nine or ten and throughout all of that show is when i'm trying to get kids like fed bed bed do the whole nightly routine i can't stop our nightly routine to watch american idol and actually even if i did i'm not going to be able to hear any of it so i wanted to be a record this stuff and now i can because fire recasts tv you plug your co ax cable right into it and it streams streams wirelessly to your <hes> fire stick and you can get a channel guide just like on a like any dish that you bought any satellite you uh-huh you get a t._v. guide like a channel that comes up you could see what shows are coming up next what's playing now you can record whatever you want i got the two terabyte one solo record like three hundred hours of h._d._t._v. <hes> and so far it's been pretty amazing i haven't really recorded anything yet because i haven't seen any shows that rhonda record food but it's the summer there's nothing there's really not that much the only issue that i've seen and it's been happening <hes> it was happening this morning we turned on the news before i went to work and for some reason it acts like it's not getting signal now i've never had that issue with my antenna before it's forty feet in the air it's got a huge amplifier on it i've never literally never had an issue with the signal coming in at all no matter what channel it was since i've put it in but for some reason with it i am and it hasn't been all the time but like this morning just trying to watch the news ray clear morning there was no rain or like nothing really in the air i guess i don't know it just wasn't getting signal and i don't know why so that is he's a little bit discouraging when that's but hopefully it just hall support and i i don't know maybe it's the maybe it's my internet you know because the the recast box has to talk to the fire stick right so it's you know you're getting an antenna signal into the box hawks but then it has to transmit that over wifi to your stick to your tv so i'm sure there's going to be a delay obviously from live tv but maybe it's just is having a hard time can you just split it and put one signal into your recast one signaling your tv while that's a direct and then you also have your d._v._r. to watch stuff so oh amy and i were talking about it this morning and she's like this is ruined i was like just put a splitter on there and we'll put it right back to the t._v. and you can watch it all the time i don't have von t._v. right now at all because during the summer the there's a tree that grows at blocks my satellite dish really in the winner is fine but in the summer not be e serious view at this at your new house at all no i've never had one we got rid of ours couple years if if i had to pay for it there is no chance i'm just i shouldn't even say that no i yeah we we paid for it one way or the other house i mean every house i had this crazy expensive and the more and more we thought about it as like an we watch like three things the only only thing we do with this as record stuff for the boys and what's super but that's about it didn't get that with your fire stick what's super exciting headings h._b._o. max is going to have h._b._o. warner and d._c. universe yeah in one bundle and disney plus i believe they haven't announced it but it sounds sounds like they're gonna have disney plus and hulu plus together in a bundle and that would be amazing so you really getting five streaming services for the price of another thing like i was having a hard time justifying putting money into an antenna when you can get hulu live here but it's over the internet but it is a we we have that but you have fast you know we have good internet but not seem kind of internet you can get in town right some really but honestly i've never had an issue with streaming anything i mean on any of my streaming services now now that i've moved closer to your green light go and it's clear line of sight i don't have an issue either the only issue i've had i just upgraded my bought on prime day those ero yes through your house wifi mesh network things so i got that all hooked up and it's great because you put the one box walks in and you basically just put off router and then you plug other ones in just in wall outlets around your house and it covers the entire house with perfect wifi and and you can it doesn't like lag at all and when you walk from one end of the house the other like meshes the network so it works flawlessly by one thing i have noticed is that when i have have multiple t._v. streaming like if the kids are watching something in the room and i'm watching some out there it seems a hair bit slower or more war buffering than before when it was just running off the street router so i figure that out really but i will say before i always had to internet's in my house because so many of the kids will be streaming something in one room cash might be streaming in one room sky might be screaming screaming something another and i might be watching something in our living room and but see i have that same situation where grant will be watching something grady watches something on his ipad i've got some on the t._v. hi an issue yeah i don't usually have an issue but i don't ever want to initiate so i've always had a._t. and t. d._s._l. and media not wireless it's such it's like first world problem never ever want to have an issue with i don't eddie room in my a. one thing about living in the country that that was the big thing when when we moved out here and when we were building the house i was like i'm i'm never going to have internet like it's never going to work right now because i i tried a bunch of different companies <hes> i ended up with the company that we're with but in the other house <hes> while we were waiting for the for the new one to be built i just didn't have good service because of the trees i was having to go across a over the hills <hes> grain leg and it was repeating off of yours yeah and in any like windy day or rain especially like it was not going to work no matter what and it kinda sucked and i was like man it's never going to be any good so i tried different companies when we moved to the new house to try to come out and set stuff up and it would never work like there was a bunch of people that came out in like like while you do still have clear line of sight it's not gonna work and then i had aaron come out from <hes> media net and he's great he said everything on he's like yeah you could see see harvard's green lake lake should be fine said okay so and then he had put it on a pole he's like once you get a tv tower <hes> setup you know he's like we'll put it up hires you'll never have an issue ever and the the one <hes> the receiver the satellite thing that i have has a little heater built into it so ice doesn't stay on it so i don't have ice issues because that was really the only big problem is if it gets covered in ice you don't get a signal but it's got enough heat in it where i never got ice in it over the wintertime and i've got perfect few we live in a greater grundy county area yeah need to media net here and this is this is what's crazy to me is that so in masan i had comcast i had like up to ninety gigs of download speed you know all the time and i could do whatever i mind megabits per second whatever very was i don't care it was ninety kids yes but then we moved out to the country and i couldn't get anything and it was a really hard chain oh yeah from going from doing what literally anything i wanted to do you still care why do anything you want you can't stream four k. no that doesn't bother me i don't need that it's it's hard to it used to be the speed gone way up i don't know if you've noticed over the last like six months he got fiber optic line yes and he had to shut me down for a minute like ten fold increase in speed so has it really yeah it's it's way faster so i haven't i check it out but i just thought it was weird that comcast it is in masan in its in morris and i'm directly in between those literally like halfway inbetween mazzano morris and i can't get it a._t. and t. comcast anything underground because it's not buried on our on dwight road dwight roads half-mile seven but but they've buried none of it under the ground because there's just not enough people that live on the road you wanted us crazy is spend any money for at the corner here at forty seven spring road a._t. and t. has fiber optic doc line that runs all the way down forty seven they do and it turns on spring road and goes towards coal city really and i'm i've told aaron i'm like we should get somehow tap in and you can broadcast the fiber optic line like this close yeah and i guess it's like it's like a commercial line fine so it's really hard to get him to tap into super expensive but you have to like buy access to the line yeah how it works but it's not like a it's not a consumer line and you can't just have them like hook it up really they gotta like putting a substation you believe you'll have to have like a breakout box what what needs to have fiber optic optic at work like i'm putting fiber optic in for all of our security cameras aren't you every time we do it they the guy sets up this it's cola breakout boxes what he calls it so every single time he has to set this box up the fiber optic comes in he has to do each individual fiber optic addict like wine and put a little end on it and put it in this like bus bar and plug into that for something else you know and it's very time consuming great use as the taxpayer money it is absolutely we got some wireless security cameras around here that <hes> aaron hooked up for us that repeat off the leg go on my computer komo we can't have any government can't because it could be tapped into oh heck into security stuff you wouldn't understand of course now you guys don't understand government security so i was going to talk about real quick we had a couple of snarf talk talk road trips this last weekend oh yeah we did so yeah go for it went to arlington racetrack arlington racetrack very nice have you have you guys ever i've never been to it's awesome i like it's like super nice i was wowed by like how nice it it is like everything is real high end and i'm sitting here i'm like hi todd like horse racing was dead like i didn't know a thing yeah yeah it's it's it's pretty boom and i would say the amount of money like that this place has spent it was awesome they had a whiskey tasting beer tasting thing cash that was like fifty bucks and it was like six hours long and they have all these at the racetrack the racetrack and they had all these with boozers slowing booze booze and abetting obviously the betting is but i realize the fun betting horses to really be before my grandpa yeah and i bet on horses and dog races but it's a lot funner when you're actually there and the racist themselves are like in a side note to like the actual the drinking and the partying just a fun atmosphere it's fun to like because there's like a half an hour between races so you like run you bet your race you go out you watch it but they were only lasts like a minute and a half right right and any watch it and then you run back in the next race but is it fun seeing the horses run around with track is it i'd i go out there and watch it yeah it's okay it's fun when it's an exciting race it's fun you know and the ones you're betting on win like there are several several times where i had a fact picked and they were like imperfect order through eighty percent of the race variant and you're like you get you get way into it yeah you're betting on it yeah really but this whiskey tasting was pretty cool i mean the only real thing that sucked about the whole day it was it was like one hundred ten degree the heat index very high brutally hot but up there the storm roll roll through about three o'clock or four o'clock in the afternoon and a temperature literally dropped his seventy degrees really take that for like an hour oh my gosh that'd be great for the rest of the time we were there so that was cool but there is a huge rainstorm too but yeah but they had this whiskey tasting beer tasting thing and a drink milord are you familiar with moore i think i had at one time and i inch never wanted to ever have it again the guys that sell them alert that are at the malivert stand there from chicago it's made in chicago and they're just like it's terrible this is this is the shot that you give somebody to fuck with them why do they do they want to like laughing about it they're like god he's hilarious they're like try some try some alert and then you drink it and it's terrible and they're like what a business eh doug shit and then i said yeah that it's made out of wormwood and it tastes fine i mean at at first but it has an awful aftertaste wormwood wormwood so it's like absent but not absent absent is made from where wormwood <hes> and i said he's like yeah it's terrible the owner even says he's like a taste like gas it tastes like gas grass and ass in that order so why i mean what's the purpose of this like i don't know but i did have some good whiskeys they was too hot ought to treat shots of whisky oh can i drink cigar tense i didn't get one of them but really yeah i longed it take you to recover not very long i didn't get that hammer no no you do a lot of walking around and it was hot yeah you sweat it all out because i remember the last time you drank <unk> heavily you're like it took me four days to cover that's pretty standard that's so sad have you found that it takes you longer to him to recover from oh definitely does it oh yeah i use it would kind of laugh about the two day hangover but it's it's real no it's definitely a rough day for me yeah it's with depression tacked on regret what is the word inkers i'm like the worst person in the world world for drinkers remorse i have bad i have bad drinkers remorse and it's always like because i always feel like i've said something so ridiculous oh yeah every single time i don't feel like you do i don't but you feel like you did yeah no i usually really do where people are like i don't know why you told me i don't even know why even if i either even if i go out and i'm not like super having a remember everything perfectly that happened and i didn't do anything stupid i still get drinkers remorse really about what i think it's just depressing of franken so i think it just happens just a swing in your of chemical bob dole legalize me i'll never have to drink but you won't be able to drive a semi i won't be able to get into an accident ciment volatile or have a physical everybody that's always i've got nothing bad to say about weed but people that are always promoting it's like oh it's so much better than alcohol like like as they're drinking a beer yeah we should all be smoking weed and drinking alcohol as if you just want to do both absolutely you just have a problem that was my back in college whenever when i did smoke some weed occasionally i'll underplay it that was the problem i can i had a hard time mixing too bad bad things happen when i mixed the two no i don't i i don't know yeah i just get like super hammered oh you do yeah so i try to avoid that i have in my past tried to to avoid that yeah i'm cleaning you've buried those demons berry that's good until january first twenty twenty yeah <hes> yeah i i can't do that again government thing you know because it's not federally legal so but anyway i highly recommend the arlington racetrack have you ever been to bell moral racetrack no i think it's closed now whereas no is it east of here is that on the south side cargo august maybe maybe i know this racetrack because my grandpa always talked about he always went to bell moral all the time and <hes> a buddy of his that lives over at seneca what's his name <hes> always owned a horse <hes> but they did the cart racing <hes> <hes> and he always went to bell moral always with his horses oh oh that was the thing i so i bet over the course of the day but i spent about sixty dollars betting that's it yeah but i can't winning one fifty four and was i'd lose and i win looper man's case oh i bet like everything on superman's cape i'm like i'm going to bet everything on the only comic book related name i could finally i bet fifteen dollars on it now i bet fifteen dollars to win place and show okay so forty five dollars no wrong about five dollars to win place or show oh so is fifteen dollar bat and then a separate bet i made was twenty dollars just to win and then he did win so i won the wind bet i one and and then on the win place show but if they win win all three oh really yeah so i actually won like fifty one ninety bucks total and then later later in the day i want another one for ninety eight dollars a five dollar but so i ended up i ended up winning eleven eleven dollars and seventy five cents yeah that's worth it yeah that's absolutely worth it if you're if you come out ahead in any of that stuff i feel like that's a win for sure for the day a because you're you're going there assuming you're gonna lose a couple of hundred and drink hundred free tito's newell's yeah yeah that's nice i think i've only had one meal before in my life on my wife's the expert mule cocktail maker really yeah she's the best edit now we have a mule making kit at home there's a kit for that is that how it's just like copper mug and oh yeah you know we came with everything to make a few capper mug don't you have to know like this whole thing came with booze and ginger beer it's like lauren and like we're going to give you fifty pounds of potato vodka getting make your mash here's a little hammer so that you get pound out your copper no i for some reason it doesn't seem like one sh one we will be better than another because it's three ingredients but marley makes them the best ever everybody says so no kidding yeah i don't have have anything really to compare it to so allegri with you so during a bunch of those i didn't have a copper month but my weekend was nothing thing like that no it was your anniversary it was so ten years and we didn't get anybody to watch our children because nobody wants to watch three kids for like four or five turns out out so we just ended up taking all of the kids and we went to saint louis <hes> four we will we left thursday morning <hes> and stayed you know thursday resonate friday night saturday night came back sunday morning and saint louis is really great for kids like it is incredible for kids there we went to let's say the first night we really didn't do much besides swim in the <hes> at the hotel and then <hes> you know went out to dinner to a pizza place that was provided next to snarf amex yes so there's a restaurant all over saint louis there was like three of them they're a sandwich place it's like a reminds me of like a quiz nose okay malls even though quiz knows is basically non-existent anymore it's called i liked quiz was shit i mean yes ask their sauces great yeah so it yeah it's called snarf amex and i didn't realize it until we were in this pizza restaurant and i i was looking at my g._p._s. just to see where i was like in the city because we walked there and then i just wanted to see what was close by and i saw it right next to us it was like holy shit they've stolen are but the whole idea i told amy as i need to go there i said first off i gotta get a picture sure of it i didn't get that and i was like an i need to get get inside they're probably order a sandwich but then talk to a manager and see if they want to promote themselves on the podcast like i was gonna hustle i had stickers with me too i was gonna hustle the podcast and i never ended up getting inside at one just because of like the cat like it would have been made driving completely out of the way which i should have done and i didn't end up doing it so it's called the lack of commitment yeah i just don't have faith in our show oh no but i really did want to get in there and then so david timmons was there at the same time i was he came in on saturday and was doing basically the exact same thing and he ended up sending me a picture of the restaurant as well because he saw but so we did that and then the next day we went to the city museum so this city museum museum that they have in saint louis is basically it's like an art gallery almost but it's a like interactive art gallery in the way of there's players these artists that have come in and made these huge steel structures on the outside and inside of the building but they're like tubes they've used rebar steel whatever you know whatever else and they've made literal tubes cages spiral staircases spiral ramps all of these different things that all fit together that's it's like amaze you can just wander and it's literally like a sounds really safe for children u. rebar you would think that it would be unsafe but once you get into it it's not like that they've really rounded it all off an inside of most of the rebar tubes they've put one really shiny smooth steel plate that it runs up along it so you can slide on that steel plate not get caught up on things <hes> it was like graham he's only two he climbed through a lot of it and and it was really great there's huge slides that go along this whole building the buildings six floors tall and it was an old factory that they've just re purposed and a lot of that is going on throughout saint louis where they've repurpose these really old like early nineteen hundreds factories and just put new stuff in it and this city museum we didn't even get through half of it <hes> because the boys just wanted to keep climbing through that big maze of metal and they've got to airplanes that are just is hanging in the air that these tubes will go to and you can go up in the plane and then it goes to another area really really neat and then inside there's there's a hidden inside a wall you can just wander into like a cave and you can get to another part of the museum through this cave it's a little bit weird because i didn't want the boys wandering off on their own because there's a lot of people there and you honestly would not know where they end up as they went through these holes so you don't know what floor floor they're on or anything like that so you really gotta stick together and i yelled a lot at them because i was like we cannot get separated because i will not know where you're in right like no matter what i know where you're at and amy was not a big fan of climbing through all of these tunnels but is air conditioned the inside was air conditioned obviously obviously the outside was not so this was on friday and it was super hot on friday so as we're climbing through all of this stuff we basically ended that we got there first thing in the morning running when they opened up and we left there around lunchtime because they're just got so hot and there are so many people in your in and out all the time <hes> in the boys were like done anyways waist so we went back took a little break and then ended up going to the arch did the whole arch thing then the next day we went to their like every time i've been the arch it's been kind of letdown i loved it this is the first time ever really been to the arch driven past a million times but i think it's pretty incredible how they built it it's all stainless steel <hes> i think it's pretty amazing i've been through at one time when i was a kid and i was impressed but that's all i also probably ten twelve years old i don't need to stainless steel that's gonna be one hundred percent stainless steel and there's no the structure of it there's no like skeleton to the structure of it itself is each wjr stainless steel cube basically that they've made or triangle piece because they're all like triangles and how they stack onto each other and the function of arch as it is is what is load bearing there's no interior skeleton to it just it what do we do in the future right when like we have quit making these types of things like as a society i mean have it we really already kind of yeah that's what i'm saying like monuments yeah yeah for sure monuments or things like that like how old is that arch hundred years old yeah Yeah Case No. Am I wrong on that. I have no idea these types of things anymore. This is what I read because there's a museum underneath of in Nineteen fifty seven. They still didn't have the engineering designed to do that arch so like they see the guy that designed it came out the design he won because it was like a contest he won the contest for this monument in nineteen fifty seven but at the time they didn't have the engineering capability ready to actually build the thing but in nineteen fifty eight there was a Mexican <hes> <hes> engineer that came out with a way to do it to actually manufacture the pieces this in the thing so had he not figured this out there would have been no arch but it was like one year later they figured it out and then in nineteen. I'm fifty nine. They started construction. That's what I mean like. They don't. They're not doing anything like that anymore. I mean the closest thing mcnew thing just because we're close to Chicago that jumps to mind but like they've done unlike millennium park which is cool yeah. It's really awesome but like the bean that that's not a thing that Maggie Maggie Daley Park is really nice. I would always engineering feat to hear about an hour like football stadiums. Yeah I'll just they really generates income yeah yeah. Well you hear about a lot of cool things and like China China's all sorts of monuments cool bridges but it's like we're all Malaysia Malaysia Malaysia those like spiral towers. I've got like a crosswalk that goes across your they call those the southern birth birth birth Kalina. Nobody says so anyway then we went to the zoo and the zoos one hundred percent it's not free it was super high. I'd like to be number one or two in the nation. It's awesome yeah very good to it is have you been to Saint Louis Zoo but but like it's so great week before you guys went. My sister did the same trip you guys. Did Oh really live down there so they go there all the time but it's great there was a ton of animals out just because because of how hot it was yeah I think they just didn't want to be out but like the rhinos were out and everything like that. The I have heard it was great. That's like number two the number one has to be which I've heard is. Oh it's amazing dickey. I've been there. It's unlike any other there's a tram or train saying that like takes you in and goes all wrong inside the Saint Louis and there's all sorts of elevation changes you know like just up and down and it's very well done. That's how I felt. The Saint Louis one was because I was pushing a double stroller right I could tell and I love the zoo which is not like number three or four on the list but but here's what I felt like was different between the Brookfield Zoo and Saint Louis though was that the habitats themselves for the animals like at Saint Louis these habitats change as you go through it and it's like legit. It's thick like forests that it feels like you're walking through you can tell when you change when you get into like Asian territory like the Asian forest where the Asian elephants are things like that like that changed and it made you feel like you changed that and then the habitat enclosures that the actual animals those are in were really great like really nice and I felt like I always feel like at Brookefield. It's just like this big open pit where an animal standing that means work fields like super nice place to go and like hang out like get off work drive up there. Go Walk around you can get a beer. Kid's GONNA run around. It's like a park mark. Yes I actually have a pass the summer to Brookfield Zoo yeah. We've been there zero time we're members to we've been numbers for a long time now and we don't use of you there but we are actually palatinum members all thrown out the PLAT. I believe I don't know if it's platinum but it's because we got memberships for our employees so like they give you credit and they like upgrade your membership yeah yeah the only the thing difference you get from this high end membership which we had to basically by three memberships to get okay is instead of a paper membership card. You have credit card type. Remember and you get access to like a wine tasting event and that's the the difference you're pretty special. I think my favorite zoo I've been to which isn't really a zoo and it doesn't have nearly the amount of animals but is still animal animal kingdom at Disney which is unbelievable really i. I don't know if I've ever been on believable. I have not here's my biggest complaint plaint of Saint Louis. The area was great. The downtown's really nice. It's super easy to get around. I thank in Saint Louis and the hotel it was great. We've we stayed at the Hilton by the Ballpark so it was literally right next to it. was that the one that's got the roof top bar. Yes I stay there. I've say they're a bunch of times but the last time I there we hung out at rooftop bar. I think we were on the way to my bachelor party at the ozarks and we stayed there and we they had a pretty good time yeah yeah. It's a really great place so that that was good but my biggest complaint around there is parking. Oh Oh yeah it's super expensive everywhere you go. It doesn't matter where you park. They are going to charge you minimum fifteen dollars the city. I I know and Chicago. It's like thirty dollars see I don't. I don't ever drive to Chicago. That's the thing I make you drive or the train the train <hes> you need to use spothero but honestly most of the time whenever I go to Chicago or we go to Chicago whatever <hes> it's for a specific event and they usually like you pay like twenty bucks for parking for the event anyways they have. I've used a couple times spothero or other similar APPs because went to cubs games or whatever it's like the Uber for parking okay so people will like sell their driveway really or their garage in one case. I parked in somebody's emmys garage. I've done that before. Was it mean you know I've done that. You can park literally right next to Wrigley Field and just walk in was is for for that million dollar quartet. Oh Yeah Yeah I. I did it for that party right now. Yeah you're the one who told me about it. I went and saw it was really great and I bought it for my parents to yeah that was good. I feel like your dad would be totally into that was because they want and they loved it. I am not familiar. It's a <hes> it's a show. It's like a musical in Chicago but it's more like a concert and what it is. It's it's the recording session that hat johnny cash who the other people Elvis Elvis will Cheri Lewis Wilson Pickett. Was it Wilson Pickett. I don't know but these four guys it was based on a true of that these four guys got together and they literally just ended up at the same place at the same time he did like a recording session altogether together and they like reenact that as a musical yeah and they play all the songs and and the guy that played Jerry Lewis and it's an a tiny little theater so it's basically like you got right front row seats to an amazing concert you don't have there's no bad spots sitting inside of this place and they play live music in front of you and they all are spot on the Jerry Lewis and I looked him up and he was like at the time we saw this probably five or six years ago at least now I'm the guy at the time was twenty three years old cycle crap and he was o- talented because he was playing he was laying on his back upside down plan early on the piano like unreal unreal. Things is really great so we're at an hour and fifty two minutes already always get much time. It does go really fast see. It doesn't feel like two hours when you're talking doing stuff. Sit there and listen but oh I can't wait for you to take the headphones off at the end of this and you're just going to be like where am I talking to depression talk hangover podcasters remorse well since this is coming out next Thursday so the Oud August I august August I this is the five then we have very little time to promote <hes> potential upcoming SNARF talk road trip yeah. When was that when was the what are you talking about wizard world? No no no no no. I would like to do smarttalk road trip to Bristol Renaissance Faire. Oh okay yeah I would absolutely be and if we got enough people I would be interested in getting a bus eight or limo I agree and so if you're listening to this on the first it's only open on Saturdays and Sundays so but it's so worth it. Have you ever been the Renaissance Fair the whole easy August third or August tenth or August seventeenth right. Yes yes one of those three weeks the twenty four th we can't do it because movie wizard I know so here's the deal the thirty first which is Labor Day weekend third. I'm going to be like a pool pool party thing. I know that week on August fifth we're going to Iowa for the week and we're not gonNA come back until that Saturday. <hes> so the seventeenth eighteenth yeah yeah that'd be about the earliest I could do but they're very first. They're open until Labor Day with a three day weekend. They do Saturday Sunday and Monday okay so we could go. I'm guessing closing. I'm guessing nope. That's what I've usually done in. It's great. I'm guessing though there might be something going on Labor Day weekend so I'd like try to not do it on Labor Day weekend yeah plus. They'll be way more people there. It's really fun. They do like a whole bar crawl and there's a guy that I I can't explain to you. How many people have had that? I mentioned this to their like that stupid. I would never do that. You know idea how great it is. You guys are missing out. Everybody's like in character when you get there. It's a whole it's a renaissance fair and they're all dressed up in character and they played their characters and when we did the not like all all the people but a lot of people that work there are N._A.. Character you know and but then yeah there's tons and tons of people that dress up that go there and and then there's vendors that are there that sell things that you would never see in a normal store one confusion. I think people don't quite understand is when they think of it. They think it's like a county fair right with like tents and stuff. It's not it's big permanent structures. It's like a city yeah built city and it looks like you walk into a castle inside of a castle wall and intriguing all of the storefronts which are all built buildings are either restaurants bars ars or shopping yep so that's how I always get women to be involved in like there's tons of shopping mall stuff. We did that drinking tour the last last time we went we did they have a bar crawl which you've got to pay a little extra for yeah but they it's a guided. It's a guided bar crawl and you meet at this one pub and you get a guide within a couple of guides. Whatever and you go from pub to pub which there's tons of bars? It's the whole street I mean. All the whole place has different all over. If you buy tickets for that you get a drink at every pub and the whole time the guys are just telling dirty jokes. They're like multiple guys and they they do limericks yeah and like dirty limericks and different things. It's it's absolutely hilarious. It was so fun I remember amy having a really good time but then by the end of it we're like we need to get back home to not drive right because I mean we were fine on the way back because we had plenty of time after are we stayed all day long and we got it's easy to do. There's so much huge and that's one aspect of it and then the whole on the end is the the tournament thing which is basically Medieval Times yes jousting outside Sword Fighting Day of Gels have parades they have all kinds of and there was like those two comedian guy shows all over so there's like the mud pit yeah so they have a comedy show that goes on there they have the main stage where they have comedy shows going on all the the time. They have that Shakespeare comedy gate. They got a fire whip guy that does a show with a whip that's on fire and he does tricks. Isn't there like fencing or certified right. Oh yeah they got the whole stage where they got these. It's a comedy show a lot of these two guys a sword fight yep but they're jumping like they're climbing up on this three story tall buildings doing tricks and jumping around really all over they have this huge concrete area where they have chalk artists incredible. They have <hes> just all kinds of entertainment throughout this whole thing and I got lucky leagues. You could buy food tons of. I think I've got it on facebook where we have a picture of all of us I think we there's just a picture of me next to this one on guy. He was like in all black leather with this really crazy mask on. He was kind of an intimidating person because he was super tall and big I of course I immediately run up to them. Get a picture of him. I think he was carrying a big sword axe. Yeah like there are some strange characters and these are just people people that come to the renaissance fair just dressed up. It reminds me a lot of like a comic con. It's like the original comic con but then they have carnival games so but they're like like period carnival game so they'll have axe throwing yeah. They have archery. They have this one where there's a guy that just sits in a booth and shouts insults insult you while you throw tomatoes at a lot of fun. It's really fun to do with kids but it's also really fun to to just adult adults. Only I've only went one that one time and it was without kids and it was a really good time on the kids activities to the kid. It's designed for for kids and adults at the same time so you can have a whole separate side of things. They have a huge climbing wall. The one cool thing for kids is a ride where you climb up on this platform and they have have <hes>. It's like what do you call the things where you slide down the cable zip line zip line but you sit on a horse and there's two of them and the Hugo you go at each other and and then they got carnival rides whether all human powered like carnival rides slaves yeah I think so I would love to do that as a SNARF talk road trip yeah if we can get an R._v.. And if we don't get enough people then we'll we'll just we'll just go jerry and mine favorite <hes> stores go in as they have an amazing pipe and tobacco store they do with all these super intricately carved awesome pipes and all these different kinds of tobacco's. They let you try the different pipe tobaccos. I've got a I bought that a church warden pipe. I got the GANDALF. I think there's something there's even longer right. I had outdo you're doing they. They have a really cool that guy that makes handcrafted leather diaries or like journal journals. I bought one we have on the parchment like the paper that they use is the same that they use like in the early nineteen hundreds like it's the same type of parchment they said they founded on the titanic and it's still in perfect condition at the bottom of the sea floor and they pulled these papers out of the water and they're still in good condition still have it at home yeah. It's really great lot of lot of clothing jewelry amy bothering there and she's like it's like I don't know it's got this green rock on. She wears it all the time but when she I bought it she bought it for like eight dollars or something and she's like well. This is going to turn my finger like black probably made from it doesn't and it's it's really great. She likes it. All the stores are all handcrafted craft stuff yeah. She's cool so stark day out renaissance fair land sounds good so many people I tell them that too and they're just like Nah Nah. I'm just like you don't understand it's like walk around place in shrink and have a great time but really Greeks. You are literally like transported in a different time. It's like a different place yeah. It's really fun. I see it on facebook all the time because I liked her page and they post stuff all the time about what's going on so we're GONNA. We're GONNA shoot for that. If you're interested. Let us know when you might be interested in what we can do might be available if we can get enough people like I said at the worst case we we get like a limo right best preferrably bus we could get a bus but we'll have to get enough people because that could be expensive yeah Ken but not for so you can just pay for it. No it's not the SNARF podcast families not fronting the cost of the bus just to be clear that split lit. You would leave between the right yeah if we could get some like advertisements or maybe some people that would pay us for the whole. Maybe if you went in the Sandwich Shop Yep. I know Damn Sandwich shop so <hes> what else anything no tim closing using statements watching. What have you been watching nothing? Honestly nothing at all not really I I. I didn't watch the most recent episode of swamp thing yet so I think I'm too behind or maybe one behind I watched. It was good really number eight right yes yes. I have not seen that so now. I really haven't watched anything in the last week to be honest. The only thing I've been watching Oh two things I've been watching. I've been watching like the rabidly the show crypt on Oh yeah I love it. Really I really like it staying. I need to start watching that now to to every single time we talk about shows. It's like well I go to the right. There's just not enough time of the day that's nothing and then the other thing I've been watching it as I really wanted to watch watch get cash or watch animated superhero show with cash yes so I started to watch the newest Spiderman show. Oh that's on Disney now currently okay and I didn't like it so I went back and I bought the first season of the ninety s amazing the Ninety Spiderman Letterman show cartoon yeah when we were kids and I've been watching that and he watched two episodes and he really liked it but I just kept watching it the whole really yeah. Is it good hard so good. It's so I mean remember the show but I don't think I ever really love it. I love it. I'm like way way too overly obsessed with with a really so. I've been watching that twenty minute episodes so I think our camera dei camera died. That was like this is supposed to we are first video. I never never talked about more of a testing. It was a test again it made it. It made it two hours three minutes so we know we could get a full two hours out of out of one. That was one charge but I think you can plug those into like A._C.. puffer shirt you know all the time powered all the time anything. You've been Washington. Not This wheel movies or T._v.. been watching this week but just in general well it was not that long ago that I watched <hes> vendors age of altron. This is pretty recent that have been working on getting through those movies. What'd you feel? How did you feel about ultra <hes>? I didn't like it near as much as you know. The original original avengers still good. That's the general consensus. I feel super excited for that. Because I love James Spader yeah who's the voice of Voltron Yep but what yeah he was. He was a great pick for that voice <hes> but you know I was introduced to the scarlet witch which I oh yeah <hes> oh I forgot she came that early and her brother quicksilver quicksilver both good characters. I like both character. I like the portrayal they did with quicksilver in that movie. Yeah I feel like I never really gave scarlet which enough to do in any of the movies I mean just one of the most powerful marvel characters yes towards savor favor some some more to work with obviously she's going to be continuing because she's in what the doctor strange when she is the one she's on thought so and she's in her own TV show and Jerry you made a comment earlier about <hes> you just keep hoping for th- or to be more powerful awful yeah you know and you know I kind of agreed with that watching that movie you know he almost seemed somewhat helpless you know and for a while he of Chris has said it before he's like trying he's finding his power which I don't necessarily agree with because they talk about so much on Asgard about being the God you know of Thunder. He talks about all the time too and what he can do but he just doesn't do it in eventually starts finding it out throughout the movies he does get ed Rag Ragnarok. He does get a lot more powerful really great. I thought they were going to continue that afterwards and I just don't feel like they did to the way I wanted it to be. He's got character arc yeah so we'll see. I don't WanNa spoil anything for you. Watch I'm in other than that personally. I just feel like he could be better compared to the comic books. He's still a phenomenal character though like it's somebody you you can't have any of these movies movies without thor. Oh won't be the same. I just wanted to see him. Just like destroy everyone right. That's all and then at that point like with what I want. It wouldn't be a movie that anybody would enjoy because it'd be like well now. It's over because thorkild everyone's so and other than that kind of my go-to go to Seinfeld. I mean basically fall asleep decided that I was doing that with office. I watched <hes>. I've kind of been re watching curb your enthusiasm awesome hold on. There's a new season coming here pretty quick curb on my top ten you did. He shows Seinfeld Portland though with the on my list I I did Seinfeld with her but yeah I watched an episode of curb last night. Is such a funny show. Yeah it's unreal there. There is a new season of Kirk. There's something like every four year something Oh yeah it's like whenever there David decides the do the show he's he doesn't need to it feels like it. How how much money do those people make off of just Seinfeld I yeah it is unbelievable believable how much money those people make like Jerry Seinfeld? Is I stupidly rich person. Oh yeah any acts like it see a billionaire. He's gotta be a billionaire billionaire. He's probably one of the best things I've ever seen is <hes>. What's that Lady's name? She's a singer. She's not very good ed but she comes up. It's it's a video you can watch on anything on the Internet but Jerry Seinfeld's doing an interview and this lady comes up she <hes> she's blonde hair. She looks kind of dirty. I Dunno she comes up and she's like oh my gosh can I can. I hug you and he has no idea who she is is obviously no. She's like I just want to hug. I think you're great. He's like no. I think it was cashing. Yes Oh it is phenomenal great videos. I know you know just please leave me alone and she leaves and he's he's starts laughing. Who was that I think key started to get the hint that like she was probably famous but he didn't care he didn't care he's like I thought it was just some random fan and he started to like grass? This is a famous person Jason but he didn't you like the show Comedians in cars getting coffee. I've I've not watched a lot of it. I do like it what I have watched. I also love of <hes> his movie <hes> Comedian Jerry seinfeld comedian. I know you went and saw Jerry Seinfeld that do stand tickets. Jerry Seinfeld like this last winter you did me and you don't remember this and it turns out we couldn't use them. I sold them on sub. Oh no I gave them away. No I did. I sold them up. I don't remember this yeah. I got got tickets and we were GONNA go. You mean Marlene Amy and then something came up. None of us could go so. We're just like I think it was. I think it was in the middle of fall. I honestly I think I combining. Oh Yeah. I don't remember the great stand up though you know I I love Jerry Seinfeld. I love that show but from a strictly we stand up perspective. I've never thought he's the funniest totally but <hes> he was extremely funny like I was laughing out loud through through all of that show a great time yeah I remember when you went and then afterwards he talked about forever because it was too because I would want to see him. Regardless this other standup. It's just seeing him and seeing Santa Comedy is probably live is when prime one of my favorite things yeah I've seen <hes> <hes> Louis C. K. three times what we went on. It's that was one of the funniest as I've ever so you. You physically almost feel like you. Can't you laugh so hard that you like. Jerry Brown shirts yeah so I saw Jim Gaffe again one time that was a lot of that would be good. He's he's good but before Louis C. K. was Hannibal bursts. Yes he was really good to that time for like three hours in a row you're laughing uncontrollably and like you said at the end we were all like oh my gosh. This is like painful WanNa laugh anymore. It was really good and then Louis C._k.. Met his demise he's back doing stand up now. He is back but do you really hear about them not like he did like. How did I love that his show Louis Yeah? That was a really good yeah super dry show yeah. It's like dry humor which is Louis C. K. in a nutshell L. though because it felt like you were really watching his life yeah and then he got replaced on Seger life pets even he did. I didn't really got replaced with PAT nozzle. He's good though I do yeah. That was my favorite show. I really am enjoying and I it's off now for the year but is A._p.. Bio Seen I haven't ever watched that that's what the guy from a guy from always sunny patent Oswald Oswald is it oh he's in it to its Glenn Howard Tan Right Yeah Yep. It's a good show. Is it yeah you sure yes one hundred percent <hes> because because that's like a A._B._C. Show is good. It doesn't feel like an A._B._C.. Show really yeah feels a little more risque for A._B._C. because I don't feel like that guy could really really do anything other than you know because it's always sunny is hilarious show. It's basically like I don't know how that's I don't know how that show ever made it because of the crazy things that they do oh and some of the things that get away with the F._X.. Lab Yeah we'll see I'm glad because it's gotta be hard to start there and then branch out into yeah. He's spending a lot of stuff networks. You have to be more a pipe. It's easier for them because they're all writers. Yes not only him but the other guy too and Charlie on the other guy has even bigger writer. I think the Mac Mac he's married to that. Chick that Caitlyn awesome all three of them are in stuff constantly. She did a show called the MIC that David like a lot. It's can't it got cancelled. Actually she was in a couple episodes of curb. I was never realized that the first time I watched it eh a recurring character Cheryl sister who was okay. I didn't know that but yeah it's all she was bitch too. In that that show it was a huge resurgence of Danny Devito get brought Danny Devito back into the spotlight because he's so rich to the point where it's even weird to hear the name Danny Devito because you don't you don't think that Ms Frank Yeah. That's a good show but I should have put and they brought him on like maybe he'd be more of like the straight character. He's more ridiculous than any of them. That's what David was pissed off because we didn't put it's always sunny and then he also also accosted me and throw rocks at me on the street I mean you can put whatever you want. That would probably be in mine now. You're gonNa tell me I can put whatever I want but what I put the good dinosaur. You're literally like I told you to change your opinion that you just an idiot all right alex that's fine so speaking the of Danny de Vito. I think viewers suggestion next week we might do <hes> top ten and top ten worst and top ten best live action Villamil portrayals. I like that he's going to take some think Danny Devito might make that list. We'll see oh he will absolutely the One hundred percent. Maybe not what you think. You never know. You'll have to tune in. We'll see I know cat woman will be on my list both both of them. Maybe yeah yeah well. She's not really the villain. She is one of them in one of them. She is on the other one. She's still a villain. She's not a villain in in her own movie no but she's a very known as the villain but she's a villain in Gotham city and that's what I'm going to take it as yeah well. You can't why she's not a villain in that movie but kept woman in general is a villain that movie was not set in the same universe. Yeah you're right so the other cat woman. Maybe yeah we'll see what's her name Michelle pfeiffer now the other one Halle Berry nope the the other one what other one in Anne hathaway hathaway she's GonNa make your list. Maybe she's barely in that movie. She's still a villain right. I've action villain many yeah. There's a lot T._v.. And movies it was like six T._v.. Movies T._v. and movies holy smokes. There's so many look you're gonna before that next week. You gotTa Watch Gotham the whole series whole series. You have to do your homework to their Mr. I've seen most of it so yeah I know but you also come to the podcast unprepared well when completely unprepared writing on the shoulders of the prowler which is me I carnal actually on the way here I was listening to two episodes ago which I never listen to where we're talking about you having a Purple Cape Eh Purple Beret and about Darkwa then chewing off the heads of Tarkwa dot chickens and the add onto that when you turn into the Prowler at at full moon because that's what we were talking about.
June 29, 2020 - Full Show
"Good evening welcome to Chicago tonight. I'm Paris parachutes and I'm Brandon Friedman on the show tonight. A debate over the Supreme Court's of Washington ruling after a violent weekend, local outreach workers tell us how they're trying to help. Investing in communities, one brush stroke at a time. When you can and can't do it, force preserves starting next week, and a local flew food blogger behind the website. Black people eat, but I Paris back to you for some of the top developments from today. And thank you Brian is the city is released police video and other files related to an October incident when former Chicago police superintendent, Eddie Johnson was found slumped over behind the wheel of his car. City. Video appears to show Johnson slurring his speech as officers check in on him Johnson was fired last December by Mayor Lori lightfoot, because she said he lied to her about what happened that night and Inspector General report, found he had been drinking driving and socializing with a female companion, who was not his wife, and we have more on this story on our website and we'll have more tomorrow night on Chicago tonight. Chicago Police Department announces it is beefing up its presence on the street for the coming fourth of July weekend this after yet another deadly weekend of gun violence. That's all fourteen people fatally shot including a one year old and a ten year old police Superintendent David Brown, says an additional twelve hundred police officers will be on the streets in hotspots starting on Thursday. This follows a similar strategy deployed during summer holiday weekends. We'll have more on this weekend's gun violence in just a moment. South side neighborhoods are getting some badly needed. Public Investment Mayor Lori. lightfoot announces his eleven million dollars in public grants the south side neighborhood of Auburn Gresham. We'll get four million dollars for a healthy lifestyle hub which includes a healthcare facility and fitness center, and the North Lauderdale community will get seven million dollars for Mount Sinai Hospital's surgical an ambulatory, Care Center the eleven, million dollars is part of a seven hundred fifty million dollar fund to distribute to projects in several west and south side corridors over the next three years. Some relief for bears season ticket holders team announces that they can get a full refund for the twenty twenty season, and still be able to renew their tickets in the same seats for the following, Season Club says it is still hopeful to be able to stage home. Football Games with some fans in the stadium, but mayor lightfoot has not yet indicated whether that will be the case. The bears I scheduled regular season home game is September twentieth against the New York giants. And now back to Brandis with more on proposed solutions to the spike in gun violence brandis. Paris by any standard June has been a brutal month for gun violence in Chicago this past weekend alone fourteen people were shot to death in Chicago, including two young children one year old, sincere Gaston in Inglewood and ten year old Lena, numerous and Logan Square this morning. Chicago Police Superintendent David Brown spoke about the weekend's violence. are struggled to make sense. Of the reckless gun violence. That continues to take the lives. Of Our young people. Throughout the city. The guns and the cowart. These evil bastards. Behind those guards. Caused the senseless loss. Of Life of life over the past weekend. Tonight as part of WTO firsthand initiative exploring gun violence in Chicago, we take a closer look at what's happening this summer in the city and efforts to curb the violence and he'll communities joining us are Vanessa Perry to reef director of training at the Metropolitan Peace Academy, which trains street outreach workers, Mauricio de as a west side street outreach worker for. Chicago and Ramon Hooks a southside street outreach worker for target area. Development, corporation, Mr Hooks, and Mr which say just graduated from the Metropolitan Police Academy last week. Congrats to the both of you on that and thanks to all of you for joining us. So. Let's let's talk a little bit about the difference in. The some of the numbers from June. Twenty, nineteen to June twenty twenty, so comparing the same time period, June first and June. Twenty second there were two hundred twelve shootings in two thousand, nineteen, compared to three hundred and sixty six shootings in the same time period this year, that's an increase of one hundred and fifty four shootings seventy two percents, if percentages helps, which sounds very significant. Ramon. Let's start with you. Please you do street outreach work in the communities that are most affected by violence. What are your thoughts on why this June has been so violent? Besides the fact that the pandemic that we all been locked down and don't say it has a is. There's no one thing. The fan damage being locked down the social media people been on now making up these coming up with different types of our, no, saying Argh, with people might comment on somebody's Beige, and they don't like it, and you know what I'm saying in his old historical beefs. You know saying India's newbies when someone is shot now. You got a whole nother B is is there's no one thing you know what I'm saying is like we find it all fronts right now. You know what I'm saying. We are here at dawn. Best can and I'm telling week. Is A new. Every day. What are what are your thoughts on why? This June is so violent? Ramon pandemic, just having just these speaking, you know whoever it is. The quarantine the current teeth, keeping people. You don't secluded their. You know their thoughts running you. Everything's. You know bodily. No put them there. WanNa go out, so it's the same thing with the social media. Everything at all comes together because. On the social media especially right during this foreign team is exceeded of past I mean everything goes for one somebody CDs not on I'll reach workers. We try to do what we cannot social lead us to the best of our knowledge, and to get information on there, but one fantasies are part. We can again no more than that so when they come outside especially right now through this space forward. They're getting Tacoma side just a little bit and get the taste of this warm air. People just don't know how to act and then DC one or not in the street and all. This! And we'll have a number. A number of children have been among the victims this month. We've all covered this journalists for some time. was there not code at some point you know between you know for example if you're out on the streets, and you see a member of the opposition with family members. To with hold your fire until they are alone. Did that code not exist and what happened to it, Mauricio. Along generation after generation kids and you know they came about to where they just don't. Like I I look at it, you know they don't respect the code. No more. There's no more law. There's no more respect for the families for children very now it's just about being gung Ho, and whoever's went you? They're going to get shower too, and I. Don't know where it is wh. Where did he? To shoot anybody which you know like. As a former gang member, it was like you didn't do that. You couldn't do none a day couldn't do nothing night. Then you know, and that's breaking respect, and now it's just it's just ridiculous. These guys. I'm shooting. Just stop the shooting just. Put the Grade I. WanNa come back in a bit to you know to the work. All three of you are doing to get folks to stop shooting and to put the guns down. Vanessa period reef. Let's come to you. Though what do you think the mayor should be doing to prevent violent violence both in the short and the long term? I think that putting more efforts toward the St Mary's community that we've discussed as a really good way to help support those who are critical to making sure we de-escalate the balance in our communities on grading trump more trauma informed communities that means, and what that looks like an action on creating a community healing spaces. I'm reading spaces of empathy and safe spaces for a children's who find his refuge are right now. We have a lot of our babies in our arms. Young people in those that we are talking about. About that are these evil bass, or so to speak on what has happened, so then what have they been? It's also the leads to want manifest. This type of behavior is negative behavior to have such a negative impact on our communities. So how do we have those conversations with them about the trauma? They've been exposed to to where they are. Now I'm manifested in such negative behaviors and having such a negative impact on our families in our communities, and so I think that as a leader. That's a huge lift you know. You don't have one. Acidic solution however I do believe that if we become. Create, more trauma informed city, using that lands to be more empathetic and understanding about what we're saying and how we approach what we're saying in our communities. That's very. And obviously what you all do is a very huge lift. Ramon Hooks talked to me about what outreach workers do after incidents of violence to prevent more violence. Will we. We first we try to find out the information. You know what I'm saying. We'll saturated. With. Education than the name was known was going on. Because note, mopey can be shot if they don't they not aware, or they may be in the middle of a was also we. We gather information a fan. The bodies involved and we try to mediate situation back. No saying Gidon ease bodied to maybe stand down or get them to a safe place where we gotta talk about. No said mediating in a in a in a way where no more shooting goes on that we is mediation is going on that people don't hear about. It could be much worse. You have mediations going on with EGWU LA- down. You know what I'm saying and allow us to go and deal with other problems in evernote. non-aggression agreement well once that we both agreed not to go on each other's throats in shooting. Vanessa paired reef. Tell us how the Peace Academy works to prepare outreach workers for this kind of work. Definitely so as eighteen weeks of information and subjects and topics that are central to the work of the street outreach professional, so we'll learn how to be professional l. they'll. Standards and competencies are related to of outreach work. How to communicate appropriately. What are those the Dan and live with the street outreach worker, so we cover and those eighteen weeks central topics that will help them, and even enhance their already unique skill set to go out an helps you restore communities and Vanessa. Do you think this summer will continue to be violent? Team the instances of violence. However, response can be different. We always have to create a solution space response and an asset base was possible. We see here in our city and our assets that our children need that human resource human resource integral to making sure that we heal our city. Lots of work to be done lots to talk about unfortunately I'm afraid we'll be talking about this more this summer. My thanks to Vanessa Perry to Reef Mauricio de as an Ramon Hook. Thank you. Up next parachutes is officially back in the studio and shares highlights from our Kovin Chicago series, but first a look at the weather. Chicago has seventy seven official community areas, and over the past three months, parachutes and our team have visited forty two of them as well as twelve Chicago suburbs and Illinois cities and towns. All told we've covered when I say we I mean them. We've covered five states to tell this story. In addition to Illinois, we've been to Milwaukee and Kenosha Wisconsin. Gary Indiana Davenport Iowa and the rest of the quad cities and Saint Joseph Michigan. Parachutes is back with us now along with producer Quinn Myers in the Chicago Tonight Studio for the first time in more than three months. Welcome back, guys. So. Paris guys before we talk about some of the takeaways from the journey. Let's take a very quick look at all the places you've been an assist from our Amanda Finicky as well. Why on Earth am I here. I'm Brandon Friedman here in our north. West Side Studio and I'm parachutes reporting live from Chicago's Chinatown Community for on Divine Avenue one of the most diverse neighborhoods anywhere in the country. We are just outside the south. Shore Cultural Center. The predominant message here in Little village is all hands on deck in beverly on the South side from the uptown neighborhood from East Garfield Park from north suburban. Would Chicago's Chatham neighborhood from just over the Wisconsin? Wisconsin border in Kenosha tonight. I met Chicago police headquarters from boy's town in the Lakeview neighborhood. I am back in the little village neighborhood on the southwest side to talk more about the uproar about what happened right behind me Saturday mornings from the Austin Neighborhood Albany Park Neighborhood West suburban Aurora Illinois and I'm Amanda any key live from Blue Island from Chicago's Montclair neighborhood? I mean heck wish tonight. Brighton Park suburban Cicero Auburn Gresham. CHICAGO'S O'HARE. O'hare airport from across the border in Gary Indiana in Wonky again from the lakefront here in Rogers Park Hyde Park Belmont Craig in the South side communities of Roseland and pullman. McKinley Park Kankakee from north suburban. skokie Logan Square on the city's northwest side from Englewood from outside the State House in Davenport Iowa from Edison Park Marquette Park in the broader Chicago Lawn Neighborhood Saint Joseph in south western Michigan in the loop Aurora headed toward relief. Relief Ville were in Lakeview right now in the near West Side Illinois medical, district in Pilsen on the city's southwest side, didn't River North Area bridgeport North Lauderdale South Chicago parent from back of the yards from Evanston, in Brownsville historic neighborhood from portage park from woodlock from Chicago's Buck town and wicker park areas. I'm in edgewater Indian, Oak Park in the West suburbs, from Elgin and we're back tonight to see. Chinatown spring back to life. That's the travelogue. Paris Quin. Okay, so let's take another quick look. The maps I one that encompasses the entire series from Kenosha to Kankakee Davenport to Gary and Saint Joseph hundreds of miles traveled to really get a picture of the people and stories throughout the region, and then this map shows just how much territory we covered in the Chicago area, and as I mentioned, we reported we. We feel like I'm taking all the good credit you guys. Thanks. I agree in forty two of the city's seventy seven community areas. So you covered a lot of ground. How did you guys go about putting this together? Every day? Well was really old, fashioned shoe leather reporting, which is what was fun about brands, and we really did want to focus on some of the overlook neighborhoods in Chicago, and so we Kinda wake up in the morning. Make a million calls. We didn't really have much of a roadmap, but then it just came down to being in the neighborhood, walking around seeing things knocking on doors, talking to people than they would refer you to other people in the get sort of a tableau. What was happening in that community? We also had one point there was A. Food Bank Line Brighton part that was about a half of my long. Get our cameraman. Felix had spotted, and we're thinking well. We really gotta go shoot tag. Here's another food bank that Quinn had spotted. Near Cicero I believe I'm starting to Hilton so just being there and stumbling upon stories, and you know there are few examples of. That are unlikely stories we got there was a pharmacy. We found in North Lonsdale after the George Floyd rallies and we figured well. Maybe he has a story about a neighborhood unrest, and he gave us some interesting insight into police community relations, and then one of our first stories. We were out in little village again I was walking around I, saw this little locally owned pharmacy, and he told us how he had sort of reimagined his store as a place where undocumented immigrants could go to get information Malkovich. People are panicking because they don't know. What to do. So we're here to give this information and. To direct people. And we will try our best if there is A. Criminal activity going on I. Don't call the police I find out who's calling the shots and then once I do that. Then I do with them directly and I've learned through my father that you get more respect that way because community saying okay, we appreciate that you're not to please you willing to deal with us one on one. I don't have any problems, so if there is a problem I know who to talk to, and then they take care of it. Yes and we tried to book two interviews for every show. We talked a lot of local Alderman state senators local officials, but we also really wanted to get on the ground. Social Service agencies community groups people who actually know what was happening in their community and could see how was being in some cases severely impacted by Kobe one thousand nine. We heard from people like Tim Eagle. At the Roseland Community Hospital, who when we interviewed him in May was pretty outraged, because his small neighborhood hospital still hadn't received any of the states, a Lotta Ram desktop here. That's the drug that has been shown to help. Treat severe cases of covid eighteenth. Randy's Aveer is here in Illinois, but it's nowhere near the new roles and Community Hospital I. Guess we didn't qualify and I. Just WanNa I can't understand why that is. We had the sickest of the sick and we have people dying. We have a thirty seven percent morbidity rate for those who, in patients who are admitted cove in nineteen so you? You have the most vulnerable patients that could benefit from Rome desert. The disparity here is unquestionable. I'll African Americans are dying at alarming rate where seven percent of the population sixteen percent of the deaths. Here in Chicago disappear should be here. Here at roles and Community Hospital there. They're also situations brands. Where a lot of this didn't come together until the very last minute, so let's go back to that controversial implosion of the Crawford. Coal Plant in little village. The local Alderman there Mike. Rodriguez had come under fire because he didn't give residents much of a warning about it, and he had okayed it, so we tried to get a hold of him all day to get him to comment at six forty five. He calls, and says I like an opportunity to address your audience and here's what he had to say about it. I obtained a commitment from the developer. To inform the community of what was about to happen. I acknowledged that once I finalized my research and knew that the city had given this permit, and there was no way we could delay or Cancel the process. I have gone. online and let folks know what was going on. It was a mistake. It's a mistake I acknowledge. It's something that will never happen again on leadership. So you went out and interview people all day, and then put it together while prepping for the show. Yeah, that's kind of the process and you know. We had to set up the interviews. And then we went and did drive on. Some of these communities are pretty big, so it's a lot of ground to cover and then. Once we have all that in the can I kind of sit in my car. Quinn sits in his car. We're working on her laptop. We're cutting video were writing. The scripts were getting it ready. And we're done it about six fifty nine, just in time for the show to start. Yeah, and one really fun challenge. I was finding out figuring out where we should go every night. Where should we do the live shot and we tried to neighborhood landmarks when there were some, so we picked everything from the south shore. Cultural Center to the Porch, theater and portage park to the givens castle, and Beverly Chicago's only castle. Castle to the Chinatown Arch and sometimes we go live from events or gathering spaces. You know something that was happening around the city. This is out of the community discussion in Evanston just a few weeks ago about funding the police where people gathered in small groups to talk about what the ideas were and kind of build an action plan and we were as you can see about two hundred feet away or so. You guys did almost all of your live shots outside in the communities that you were on, but of course that means you guys into running into the elements a few times well, it's amazing how long winter lasts in Chicago. House spring. Never arise just goes right from winter to summer, but we always knew that it was freezing. Most of the nights we got lucky with the rain. A quin you know would get a backup plan inside somewhere. Whether looked ominous. There are few times that we had to do that. Other Times. We kind of rolled the dice on the weather to some mixed results especially here when we were in south Chicago trying to get the skyway in the background. Peggy I'm sorry to hear that. We're GONNA we're. GonNa leave it there. As the weather gets a little more income in here and Brandis. We're going to toss it back to you in that warm dry studio. Peggy, thank you so much for being out here with US and braving. and. We'll wrap it up and just a bit. Sorry Peres, get someplace safe. Now that you're back, you know that the studio is Dr. Ward known. About a month ago, of course, you've got shifted from covering not just Kobe, but also the aftermath of the death of George. Florence Floyd in the unrest that ensued. How have you guys shifted gears to cover that story? This model of reporting was really well suited for that story, because it affected every single neighborhood, and we could sort of get a ground level view of. Of how it had been affected so the day after the weekend, the most of the unrest happened. We didn't really know where to go. We decided on south shore because we just had gotten word that there was going to be a cleanup effort. We get down there. One of our cameraman Tim. Boy Did found this little store where a woman was kind of cleaning up. She was the owner. She's cleaning up. been completely wiped out. We had gotten a tip when we were down there that the jewel at seventy fifth and stony island that the managers had given up, and they were just letting everyone walkout with everything, so it was a surreal scene here as people just racing out with bags of stuff, but then other people are just clinic cleaning up, and then folks are kind of looking on distraught at the whole thing. Breaking the glass and All of the controversy that's taking place when those in their shopping trying to get this up. Cabinet off the jail. Thursday ridiculous man it is is ridiculous thoughts last night. Thoughts last night. Were you know what I don't WanNa? Do it anymore, but this morning. Due to the overwhelming help I received and everything to help. Clean up and everything I. Sutton decimal some things. So you see a lot of community support, and it makes you want to keep going yes. Yes so for that week I think it was the first week of June. We're pretty much covering protests. And we were in the protests I mean we were trying to walk alongside them, or in one case in real run alongside them with our camera crew, which went decently. Well, I think. So? We tried to get people sensitive whether we like to be there. What people's demands were why they were marching in the first place? I'm probably. The most interesting marches that we covered in Pilsen Willow village where people had organized so-called unity marches organized to express solidarity between the Black and Brown communities, after a few days of really heightened tensions in the on the southwest side of Chicago. You're definitely got your steps in ticket or steps I have to mention Soda Dr Photographers and they were amazing throughout all this. We had a rotation Felix, Mendez Michael Cox but also Damon Ranger Tim Boyd and grant banks. You know they all it takes. To keep up with this guy. All right and of course thanks to you both obviously welcome back excellent work. This is not the end of our commitment to community reporting. In fact, it's just the beginning I'm taking notes because starting this Thursday and every Thursday moving forward will be out in a different Chicago community or Chicago area to take an in depth, look at issues, affecting the people of our city and region, meanwhile on our website W. W. dot com slash news. You can go to any of our covert across Chicago stories. When you scroll down to the bottom, you'll see an interactive map once there. Click on the pull down menu and pick any of the communities. We visited to get links to the stories we've reported. Celta come on Chicago tonight. and gets the go-ahead racing and betting during pandemic. and. Sometimes people just want to write their name on the wall. reinvesting in Chicago neighborhoods through art. The county is loosening restrictions at forest preserves can and can't do. It so. That looks good and how locally founded website? Black people eats promoting black owned restaurants. And parachutes talks about his field, reporting uncovered covid nineteen across Chicagoland again but I. The US Supreme Court is handing victory to abortion rights advocates in a major ruling. The case June medical services versus Russo challenged Louisiana law, requiring abortion providers to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital, but in a five to four decision, the Supreme Court ruled that the law much like Texas law that the court also struck down placed an undue burden on abortion service providers, joining us to discuss the ruling are Peter Breen the vice president and senior counsel at the Thomas. More Society a conservative public interest, law firm and Andy Friedman, a board member of Personal Pack Illinois based pro-choice Political Action Committee. Welcome both of you to Chicago tonight. Thanks for joining us. Thank you? So, Andy Friedman, let's start with you. Please give us a background on this case and the ruling the arguments in this case. Sure so this case was essentially re-litigating case. The court decided for years ago. Called Whole Woman's health. In that case, the court said that Texas which had a law virtually identical to the one at play in Louisiana here today. Was a Texas required. Admitting villages for abortion providers with those are in short, our requiring anyone who wants to provide an abortion in a state to be allowed to admit patients to hospital in therefore visit the patient in the hospital The court found that it was clear that these laws were. Native for no other reason and shutdown next they provided no actual benefit to women's health or anyone's health, and the only reason they were emplaced, was because they were impossible to obtain for many providers many clinics literally only because they were providing abortions and. Two safe and hospitals weren't interested in providing these privileges, so the court found there was no question that these laws were simply there to shut down abortion clinics, and not have any safety benefits at all and struck down the launch taxes here. We are four years later deja-vu. The same law is in place. Louisiana the fifth circuit upheld it and Supreme Court said today. You can't ignore our resident. This clear violation of women's health and the the law was struck down. Peter, brained. How do you view this case? What's your reaction to this ruling? Well and Certainly I'm disappointed that the court allowed Louisiana law struck down Louisiana, law. The but the way it was done so four one force. We've got nine justices five to make a majority, Justice Roberts was the one, and so his decisions, GonNa, control and he essentially repealed. Woman's health at least a standard that had been adopted whole women's health for years ago. He said well. We're GONNA. Treat like cases alike and the Louisiana. Law was a little too close to taxes, and so he did affirm it that way, but he said we're not going into a balancing test. His words a very particularly. He was saying you know we just. The courts are not able to balance. A women's health, and then the right of a state to protect on born life versus the right to abortion. He said it. It's a his his quote was. It's like judging. A particular line is longer than a particular rock is heavy, and so he really kind of blew up what had been done in whole poll? Woman saw years ago, so it was a bit of a win, but still you're losing your admitting privileges. Requirement out of Louisiana Law. Law But it's very needs to be made clear. These laws had required previously either a transfer agreement or admitting privileges now they were trying to just go with admitting privileges. You've still got protections for women. The the point is in a botched abortion situation. Making sure there's a continuity of care for a woman when she goes to the hospital. Because you've got cases, I know of them personally where women have had these terrible complications on an. Arrived at the hospital and the hospital has no idea what's going on. So that was the purpose of transfer agreement or admitting privileges, and we had hoped they would uphold it. But again did not today, but again we still got the ability to transfer agreements and other related Andy Friedman's. He's what about know. What would the law have meant for people who are seeking an abortion in the Louisiana? Would've been devastating in the state of Louisiana, so I will add here while we got a reprieve here and we're very grateful for that, and for all the people, Louisiana will still be free to access abortion care. We want to be clear that we were already at a crisis point in Louisiana and in this country for abortion access even before the court took. Is Case Ravi Way was not enough will never be enough. We know that if you're struggling financially if you are rural if you will are low income or person of color or you, you already have significant barriers to get care, so the court here didn't job at a minimum, if followed its own rules around President Roberts admitted. We had to follow his own rules have any credibility because anything less would have been a little verse, but it just upheld the status quo, which is still not good enough. Just three clinics is still unconscionable in a state the size Louisiana so I think this was one stop, but frankly we should be talking on how we're expanding access to care, not these political ruses to shut down clinics pretending that. That we need the transfer agreements in order to keep one of the safest procedures out there to be saved, because it's simply not true, and everybody knows that those who are against abortion access to don't want people to be free to control their lives in this way were saying that we're seeing that they weren't winning. They were not overturning Roe, so they looked furniture strategy and that strategy was these. Emitting privileges type laws that would simply shut down clinics, so that was their back door to try to shut down clinics so far failed, but it was a reprieve and more coming down the Pike and Peter Brand sort. What's what's next? Illinois is a state that's you know secured a number of rights for people seeking abortions Do you have some hope based on how Chief Justice John Roberts voted in this particular case. He actually said in his opinion. I wasn't asked to overturn Casey. It was almost as if if they had asked he would've looked at it and so he left open the door to overturning Casey and row. That sort of precedent, but I think it bears repeating that in states like no, we repealed entirely our health and safety licensing, even though it had been used to shut down. Bad abortion clinics previously. Including weren't sterilizing instruments in Rockford Lincoln. Would you had other abortion clinics that had had serious health violation. Personal Pack had helped to get the law repeal altogether, so there is no more licensing requirement that allows for health and safety inspections from the State of Illinois and Louisiana. We had hoped that we would win there because it was a different record than the Texas case from four years ago Louisiana. You'd have women who who's uteruses perforated. They sat waiting in the ER. had terrible terrible consequences that admitting privileges laws would have assisted ensuring continuity of care again if you're gonNA have abortion legal, it needs to be held to the highest level of standard the same standard. You'd expect on e. surgery or anything else that you might have. This should be held to that same standard. Worst as being held to a much higher standard one that is completely unrelated to the actual safety of abortion, which is extraordinarily safe, so. Not have to. Worry come, we'll folks. I'm sure we'll continue to have this debate. It's not going anywhere. I'm certain of that, but we are out of time at this point. My thanks to Peter Breen Andy Friedman thanks to you both for joining US tonight. Thank you thank you. A year ago, nearly to the day Illinois Governor Jay Pritzker signed a law that would massively expand gambling state then the pandemic hit, and as with so much else casinos closed down. They may be down, but are they out Amanda. finicky joins us now with the latest Hey Amanda. Abraham for actually going to start Arlington Racetrack. Normally this time of year is the track's busiest because it only runs thoroughbred racing during the summer months not lately, though do of course to the coronavirus. When you have a facility that holds twenty five to thirty five thousand people, and it's since. And just see the wind and the dust bowl, and through the grandstand we have a very large landscape year three, hundred, twenty six to eight years in. It's just dust bowl in the weeds grow real quick during the summer of the Spring Rain So. It's been quite challenging in that respect Harlington preparing the grounds because that is sent to change, horses are beginning to move back into the stalls this week, and then raising his to begin later this month on the twenty third of June. July, that is the situation is different at Hawthorne race courses this row where horses run nearly year round, which means that horses as well as their trainers and owners who sometimes literally live at Hawthorn were on the grounds when Covid nineteen? Hundreds of horses were already on the grounds of residents were already on the grounds, and we were conducting races then when the pandemic hit it shut down the live racing aspect of sense, but what it did it change the fact that you had this essential industry, which is the care for racehorses in the state of Illinois and the agribusiness that follows with the of racehorses, so throughout the course of the pandemic that was going on each and every day. Because no matter what happens, you have to care for these animals. The owners and trainers didn't have however was a way to make money to care for them, because earnings come from curses when the horses run. Things were getting really tight for a lot of the horsemen, because it's a matter of almost survival, feeding myself or my feeding my racehorse, and all of these people are going to choose the racehorse first and foremost. Tell you it just a complete breath of fresh air? We got the news to get back onto the racetrack. They turn on to the puck on has been running races for a few weeks now, but one big difference from raises of old. There are no spectators from a monetary standpoint. It's not white as great, but it is going pretty well Miller. Folks are still betting on horse racing. So that means money is flowing. There's been no outbreak also nineteen. He says they've been taking safety very seriously. Has Bigger plans so part of that massive gambling expansion bill also allows horse. Race tracks to become casinos racing. Those other has the application and is waiting for the racing board for approval now you also have a law in Illinois. That's paving the way for sports. Betting rivers casino in disclaims opened the state's first sportsbook to great band bear relieve March, but within weeks time it had to shut down. Down Because of Covid Nineteen Illinois now allowing river, other casinos to reopen granted with your gamblers allowed, and they all have to be wearing masks and keeping their social distance, starting Wednesday sports betting however did not come to a complete stop over this time this month. Rivers became the first in the state to debut online sports wagering. This is a platform that allows us to play some unconventional wagers. Betting live on a game changes everything because you can bet on, will the next. You're watching results in a goal or a made basket. You can bet by quarter so it really for a lot of people who have become you know armchair quarterbacks in fantasy football measures. This gives them the best way to feel a part of the game. By bidding on each and every part of it. Is that as any sports fan knows there hasn't been a ton to bet on lately. So arranged the top sports to bet on that rivers, mobile platform, soccer, Gulf and ultimate fighting that could change as other sports return. And football is king in this country. We we are seeing a healthy amount of. Chicago bears bats. So While sports has has gone away for a little bit. The Passion for it has not and I. Think you're seeing that. In the State of Illinois. Now odds are good. They're going to be more changes on the gambling front and Illinois that law in two, thousand, nine, hundred also authorise six new casinos, including one that will go to this. How suburbs for Keegan and then of course Chicago's. Even more competitive for throwback racing in this state and I think in the nation at large with the casinos, coming back online and most stage online gaming, coming back on, and as you start to see some of these other sports comeback on with Baseball Football College football it's it's going to be a market. That's going to be tough to penetrate. Arlington, trying to penetrate that market by petitioning the state to allow socially distance spectators back in the stands. Prentice back to you Amanda Thank you. A family of artists is encouraging communities to reclaim their neighborhoods through the art of storytelling arts correspondent Angel Edo shares more. The intersection of Seventy Jeffrey was once described as the main artery of the south shore. But that since changed disinvestment and blight now stand in its place, so artists Dorian. Sylvain decided to reclaim the corner with art, so we feel that this coroner is such an important intersection for the community. The children seniors the neighbors that live here. They're reclaiming it artistically. It doesn't change the fact that this building still abandoned, but it does tackle the. The psychological. Stress of seeing abandoned properties everywhere you look mural moves a campaign executed by Sylvain in her artistic children has been working to help beautify black and brown businesses during the pandemic I love working with them. But, also about kind of passing down scales, passing down legacy, passing down ideas of citizenship, and how we as artists have commitments to our our neighborhood. They invited artists from the neighborhood to volunteer their time and invest in their community. You know a lot of our neighborhoods are in the conditioning and because they're neglected. Especially in the arts I just WANNA make sure. That I use my art as a form of protest because I think my slogan is artists. My weapon may not be out there on the frontlines fighting and you know whatever whatever the case may be I just feel like this is my way of. Showing. My Solidarity with the Movement to help advance. The culture to the level is supposed to be. It's an opportunity for anyone to come out and share their story. That's how ten year old. A Shea Williams ended up painting this. She was just walking down the street with her parents and decided to stop. Hold Dead Day. They like it if they want to. They don't have to like it so vain. Son Kahari says it's interceptions like these that speak to the necessity behind their work. Cultivating younger artists is really important and like mentorship, and having like people that have experienced that you can talk to about about it is. A big part of the game, but the help of a few students art teacher Warez Hawkins created a piece that references a poem by Paul Laurence Dunbar. We wear the mass at grins and lies so that's really applicable to what we're going through now sort of like as people of Color Facie. Really what they've been facing for Vasovagal hundred years, but now it's like the SCAB is ripped off. But at the same time, it's like that's how we always have to keep our cool, and we have to keep our calm, and we have to find ways to survive and to thrive in spite of all the crazy. Kind of bragging your spit. Mature Spirit filled. The lighter you know for Arlene Turner Crawford was about paying tribute to late civil rights activists Dr Conrad war-era a phrase that she believes embodies his work. candace hunter continued series she started when the pandemic began titled Brown Limb. Girls the figures in the peace are just about joy about sunshine and life and loving being in the skin there it's this message and many other shared at this intersection that reflected the long term impact of so veins mission. We all just want to be heard, and not everybody has a capacity to draw beautiful things, and sometimes people just want to write their name on the wall. You know but it's it is about giving people that platform giving people an opportunity that doesn't feel intimidating. Four Chicago tonight I'm Angel Edo. The Art. Initiative has since taken a break, but will resume services after the holiday weekend. visit our website for more information on where they painted so. And where they're headed and now back to Paris and the loosening of restrictions Cook County forest preserves Paris. Brennan grilling and other activities are back on the cook. County forest preserves and joining us with a rundown of what we can and can't do at the forest preserve is WTO w reporter Patty. Wesley Patty good to see you. Back here in the studio, you cozy there at home in Lincoln Square. Okay, so what can we expect to open after the fourth of July weekend? So there are a bunch of parking lot sent. The most popular deserves that have been closed on weekends. Those are staying closed through the six after the six. Those are going to be open so at places like woods Dan Ryan Woods those will be open. Picnic tables people can start using picnic tables again, and the forest preserves nature centers. Those are going to be back opened the main buildings, the grounds and trails, and importantly the bathrooms will be open at the nature centers Lasting to open is going to be the swallow. Click stairs in Hills Park super-popular attraction. It's enclosed this old time. That's not opening up until July nine, so as of the ninth, that'll be open, and that's the same day that people can start bringing grills and coolers into the forest preserves again it's. got to the swallow cliff stairs I gotta check those never been all right. So what's going to remain closed then after July six until further notice? Yes, sad news, especially because we've got so much hot weather now, but aquatic centers are closed for all twenty twenty, so sorry swimmers, no luck. Agers not closed. Though nature's open pouring cold water on our hopes to go to aquatic. All right, you can read patties full story on our website where you can find more details on what's opening up at the forest preserves after July fourth. That's W. W. dot com slash news. Steep decline in business, due to covid nineteen or property damage, following civil unrest restaurants have not had it easy the past few months here in Chicago. There's a man doing his best to elevate black owned restaurants through. Social Media Chicago Tonight's Evan Garcia met up with Jeremy Joyce. The founder of black people eats to learn more. So, Jeremy Joyce is enjoying some waffles at cleo southern cuisine in the Brownsville. Neighborhood on Chicago's south side. Everything we do is creole spikes, but it's had a southern flair. Oh look at this ya liberties. Jeremy's not just a regular customer. He's the man behind black people eats a website showcasing black owned restaurants. Further Nicole in the Black Community Pratt ourselves. Connecting people to blog on restaurants and heaven blagden restaurants increase. Revenue through media. CLIOS wasn't even one year old. When covid nineteen hit Chicago, the restaurant had to let go of two part time employees, and is now only open on the weekend. Still owner. Chrissy Harper says they're adapting. Its small restaurant, a small so customers love coming in and being able to interact with us, and we can't really do that through the door, so we really try to bump up our customer service and td literally on the phone, taking orders, but like seventeen minutes just having conversation, so we don't lose that connection with our customers. Oh! My God today. Jeremy is trying the PAN, seared salmon with lump, crab, meat and sweet chili sauce. He was kind enough to share some with me. Special de Sauce. Taste the rice. Right. It made sense no. To the actually. because. It's year whereby. Okay you? Also when he coded in. Greece offs. Black Gravy it tastes better when you heated I text her to say y'all even better than. The sauces somehow just sunk in. CLEO's is one of several restaurants benefiting from the Black Owned Restaurant Relief Fund. A gofundme me Jeremy started to help restaurants featured on his site, so he was able to raise seventy five thousand dollars. We split the money evenly among fifty four restaurants, and actually the checks in the mail, and they're going out to black on Ross to help further their business. The President of the Illinois Restaurant Association has said Chicago restaurants have seen an average eighty percent loss in revenue during the covid nineteen pandemic. Another black owned business getting help from Jeremy is the ice cream shop kill wins in Hyde Park. Jackie Jackson owns this kill wins and two others in the loop he. Is, getting the community involved with supporting black on small businesses. He's been very successful, and it has been definitely a big third in business. Since this has started since this initiative has started Jeremy's from Chicago's south suburbs since he started black people eats in December, two thousand seventeen. The site has expanded to include Atlanta Houston. DC and other US. Cities Goals is creating a black people eats in every city, a company that can truly connect the world's of black restaurants everywhere. Salmon for Chicago tonight this Garcia. In case you're wondering black people eats isn't Jeremy Choices full-time gig yet? At least he currently works at an investment firm and produces his own food blog on his own time, and up next more highlights from our covert across Chicago series, so please stay with us. This evening's presentation of Chicago tonight is made possible in part by COM. Ed powering lives. We have tremendous source of untapped efficient energy. Right here in our school. The comment. Energy efficiency program has relied for making schools energy-efficient. And we're back now. With more from parachutes on the copen across Chicago series that he and producer Quinn Myers embarked on over the last three, and a half months the to hit forty two Chicago community areas as well as twelve suburbs and Illinois cities along with hitting towns in Iowa, Wisconsin Indiana and Michigan. NPR's is here again to unpack what it all means. Means Peres! Is there an overarching theme that you discovered from getting such a ground level view of the city? Well, see this brand's I think it's a city that it's an intense pain right now. Economically health wise especially in some of the neighborhoods that have suffered disinvestment for many years. It's very clear that covert nineteen, and then the civil unrest after George Floyd. Floyd has put a microscope on the structural inequities that exists in this city have existed for many decades. They are plainly out in the open right now. It's also on a microscopic view. We discovered pretty early on that. This was hitting. Black and Brown communities disproportionately cove one thousand nine. Hundred isn't Wbz came out with that amazing analysis of just how that was. Was Happening, so I? I WANNA, play a couple. Clips speaking to that a doctrine Chatham who had warned about the risks to the African American community because a co morbidity, and then we also in Brighton Park where the CEO of community health center. There was fretting about the unusually high rate of positivity in some Hispanic Latino residents that he was testing. So I. think that there are multiple factors that are leading to the excessive death rates that we're seeing in the African American community that's connected to the corona virus, or covid nineteen, one of which has to do with something that's existed in the community for a long long time, and that is health disparities around chronic conditions that people in the African American community experience people are afraid to go to the hospital because they're afraid of the bills and we. We really need to make a commitment as a community that this treatment is going to be free for people. Now. Also, we discover the you know. The level of disinvestment in many neighborhoods is pretty stark. You have communities like Auburn Gresham on the south side. It really had no adequate health facility or grocery store. They are getting a facility announced today by mayor. lightfoot communities like South Chicago Austin. Dr Field Park where commercial districts have kind of fallen empty over the last decades I. It's not a coincidence that those are the areas that struggled the most with Cova. Thousand Nine Hundred GonNa be hit the most economically, and we met some local officials in Auburn Gresham who had been begging the governor to bring testing to get that community under control. We need a testing site here in Auburn Gresham, this number thirty one out of every zip code in the state until we have a comprehensive clan, which requires testing, tracing and treatment. There's no way we're going to be able to mitigate of the damage. That covert is doing in the communities. Let's talk about the positive things. We saw an amazing sense of resiliency in every single community here in beverly residents had raised forty thousand dollars to buy pizza and Italian food to deliver to hospital workers. We also went to Chatham where we met the owner of Josephine's restaurant. Mama Josephine Wade Mother Josephine wait. Who decided she was going to give free meals delivered to seniors all across the sell side, and then in little village. Residents had struggled so much that they were pooling their money together and buying food together. So you saw all hands on deck approach everybody coming together in these neighborhoods, and of course Paris you spent a good deal of reporting on the economic and the business impact of the shutdown. What were the biggest takeaways for you? The the the small business needs community are really essential A. They're an economic base be, they might provide an ethnic service or food. That chain business could not provide, but also they really form the. Of, that neighborhood without them Chicago could be pretty stale city, so we found a lot of businesses that adapted and I want to show some examples. There was an upholsterer and Rogers Park that switched from doing curtains to doing masks, a clothing store owner in Englewood who really wants to create this positive perception of Englewood started selling on social media and in Aurora manufacturer that went from building office shells to emergency beds. They said they've been able to donate a bunch to local organization, but also sell them to medical care providers across the country and the owner they're. Dale says once. One order came in business just sort of snowballed from there. What we do now is pretty much to keep the doors open. Keep the lights on. That's what this is doing and that's. That's pretty much what we set out to do. Owner Corey Luck said he's he is starting to use social media to sell his product now he's come up with some of the graphic designs here a bear with glasses as sort of a logo for Englewood and he's printed all this apparel. He says he never intended this. This to be anything other than a brick and mortar store, because his goal is to build community, there was very instrumental for the store to be here, so people can come to the community and see what's going on. What's actually happening in this? Within a week? The company converted its Assembly Line for making office shelves and equipped it to make emergency beds rearranged parts of the factory to be to be able to produce these beds in high volume. So. One final thought what we heard. A lot of neighborhoods was. The media doesn't take interest in us unless there's crime, it's clear that there's a much fuller story to tell in Englewood Rosalyn Chatham Humboldt Park Everywhere Brandis and the media needs to do a better job of telling those stories, and that's what we want to continue to do. We do want to continue that. Thank you Paris. It's been an incredible journey and a reminder. This is not the end of our community reporting It's just the beginning starting this. This Thursday end every Thursday moving forward, we will be out in a different Chicago neighborhood or community area to take an in depth, look at the issues, affecting the people of our city and region, and on our website W., w. dot com slash news. You can go to any of our covert across Chicago. Stories and scroll down to the bottom where you'll see an interactive map once there, click on the pull down menu and pick any of the communities. We visited to get links to our covert across Chicago stories. And that is our show for this Monday night. Don't forget to stay connected with us by signing up for our daily briefing and you can get, Chicago. Tonight streamed on facebook youtube and our website W W dot com slash news then you can also get the show via podcast and the PBS VIDEO APP and please join us tomorrow night live at seven renewed calls for an elected school board in Chicago, we weigh the pros and cons, and on the Chicago River New Music inspired by them, Mississippi River. 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"Like I'm mixed race. I'm a single woman in egg, but you know who's helped me mostly white farmers and most of them voted for Trump. This is the real food real people podcast off food and growing food can cross so many divides all those things that are supposed to divide us that they tell us that are supposed to drive a wedge between people, you know, whether it's urban and rural or politics racial differences farming crosses all of those boundaries this week. We talked with McKayla, right? She shares her story of walking away from a lucrative career and working with some of the top names in entertainment and Beyond incredibly accomplished person who was not happy and was not well even though she was doing all the things that were told by the fads and Trends right now are what you're supposed to do to be healthy and she dead Came back to health and farming and relearn everything getting back in touch with her roots. She's one of the most passionate people we've had and and if you've followed this song cast for a while, you know, that's saying a lot cuz there's a lot of passionate people. She's one of the most passionate people we've ever had on the podcast and you were going to enjoy this conversation. We cover a lot of territory this week off. This is the real food real people podcast. I'm Dylan honcoop. I grew up on a farm in western Washington spent some time in media doing the whole like radio thing and now I am back in the farming community and looking to share the real stories of the people behind our food and connected to our food system to reconnect all of us with where her food really comes from down in Snohomish, Washington for this conversation talking with McKayla, right? Knowing oneself. Well, I think that goes to lots of learning to be present in a moment and to listen to more, you know, kind of what your call it Soul speak. It's always that intuition that gut feeling and when you follow that usually you're on the right path compared to making choices based off of what you think family members of society or culture will tell you. Yeah, because most people would think I'm nuts for learning to farm finding a ranch getting horses and starting to be a single female woman an egg. So so what do you say that have people giving you that kind of global don't quite get it. They don't know. It's like well, why would you give up a city life and you did so much when you worked in entertainment and music and fashion, and that's just you had a dream life that everybody wanted. I'm like I was dying in it. I hated it cuz I I got into it because that's what others kind of led me to believe that I should be in when dead Originally when I was you know, a teenager doing 4-H being on my grandmother's Farm. I was happy doing farm work and working with horses and assisting with livestock. And I you know, I've been making the joke lately. I'm like, I've just come full circle cuz I stopped listening to others and I started listening to myself. When did that start? What was the turning point for you? So it's been an awful over a period of years it started when I was thirty-three living in Los Angeles and there was just one day. I'm like, I can't live here anymore and three days later. I'd come up to a conference a Tech conference here in Seattle and it was September. So it was still nice. I hadn't it wasn't the Blackness but it was green and there was water and it just the air was clean and I was like, what is this and compared to Los Angeles, which is just very hot and very very busy. I'm like, I think I'm going to give this a try so I went home. And it was the end of my lease of my apartment and I literally packed and moved up here on a whim and moved to Woodinville and and just kind of learned to explore the outdoors and nature, you know, went back to California because of the work I did but then it was then, you know, cuz like my if you read my my blog I talk about my love and the evolution of food and understanding food and nutrition like Ad nauseam, but when I was in California, you know, I I was just telling her Victoria who I worked with on the horses that we you know, writing about food wage earning a lot about health and wellness cuz I mean that's just kind of ingrained in Los Angeles everything on the west coast was like there's something wrong here. Like why are people kind of like starving themselves and depriving themselves? I'm like, I want to learn more about nutrition. I started volunteering in a printing saying on various ranches in Northern California. And you know, the first thing I learned was how to cast her to go. Hey look I would go wherever someone would log. Me and and then it moved into raising and butchering Hogs which love that and just seemed like when I started like my exploration of food, I'm like, oh I'm going to learn how you know our food. You know, what our bodies really need to be healthy and that just kind of said wait into learning to raise livestock and soil health and off like literally the beginning of it. I'm like this isn't exactly what I thought but that's where it started so over three years a lot of a princess seeing a lot of learning and it was across the board. Some of it was organic some of it off or regenerative. Some of it was just more, you know, traditional, you know, commercial-style farming but I didn't go in with any biases or preconceived notions. I just wanted to learn from those that would share with me and that just I I I think I you know, I've talked before it's like every time you learn something about a piece of production you change your mind or you expand your view cuz you're like they're real life. No one way to do this correctly. Some people are no till some people are till some people are organic. Some people are not but I think there's a case for everything and it's dependent on a variety of factors wrong location size of the ranch the ability of the ranch owner, even, you know, one of the places that I spent the longest time learning and I learned the most but they were about 65 and they have fifty animals off, you know and eight acres and you know, you said that that's where I learned to castrate goats that's for learned about raising Hogs. I you know, their Orchard was falling apart and then that's where I went into soil learning about school health so that I could help bring back their trees which we did it and but it took years it didn't it wasn't something that was over night and I fell in love with learning about it and you know at the time I am still doing my main business for marketing and I was doing you know, the music the corporate everything that I just that came our way and it was about two years ago. I'm like I can log Work for people that are in other Industries other than food Agriculture and certain aspects of health because it just doesn't align to what I believe in and what I understand so we let go of 60% of our business. I mean you're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars. I just said forget it. I don't want it and we we started over because actually because we let go of all the money we're but it wasn't about that and I was young I didn't regret it. That was again like being more true to myself cuz like I said, it was just stopped listening to others about what you should have or who you should have as clients or anything else. I was like, well, I'm going to start with learning what I value what's important to me and it was it was just love affair that came into learning how our food is grown and raised and then like just this this life that I had been taken away from when I was eight cuz my mother wanted to be in a city, so that's where it came to so I took I love what I do. I love my work. I love my dog. I just now do it for people that no matter how they do it. I do my best to understand their businesses their needs their challenges and provide value to help them create solutions that work for them in the ways that they do things. So you're saying that your journey didn't start out being aimed toward farming at first. It was about snow like yeah Health Nutrition of food. I was just took like I was vegan for eight years and I pretty much juice half my meals I literally I was basically starving myself. I've written about this very handedly because Los Angeles it's all about being rich pretty and skinny. So I lived off about 1,600 calories half of which were liquid and I ate a raw diet. I was miserable and I was actually very sick so often when I started learning about like how meat is produced and when you can do it in a way that is ethical and very not detrimental to the animals cuz that's really that what that's what they you know, that's what promoted by wage. Right and certain groups and it's even won't go there quite yet you want to but you know the day I ate goat and pork that we had raised. I was like can I just have more and put the keys in it? And I literally ate goat meat and pork and peas for six weeks straight, but I felt it was like coherent and I wasn't hungry and I just yeah it was it was it was awful. I started with needing to understand what my body needed to be better and that it's best and that it just was a something that just evolved. It wasn't a Target and it just when I realized I make like I was telling you I make a joke now, I'm like Wow Let's see. Well when I was young and all my grandparents Farm all I wanted to do was ride horses write stories and take pictures cuz I happy and 4-H doing photography and stuff and I'm like look at where I ended up and took twenty something years to get back there. So it was just kind of this Evolution and you know, I love what I've learned from other experiences in the past but wage. At this point to me life isn't worth not doing something you love and aligned to your values. Who's our friend back here, by the way. She looks like she's trying to this is Tulsa and she is off kind of a mascot. She's an old barrel racing horse and she's just she's very Lively. She I can tell she wants to be part of the conversation. Yeah, and I think this is the first horse on the Paris cast in the video. So I'm I think I think I got something original going on here. Yeah, I think so. I think if if she could talk she would probably have quite a bit to adhere. Yeah. She she would not tell you the story of how she hated me at first and now we are best friends. That's how she we had a grow on eachother. I I Tulsa so you're saying, you know, I thought you were looking for it was about health that what you to farming and right away. The first thing you're talking about to me is Raising animals and meet yet. A lot of people in especially in this like West Coast. Urban healthy culture like we're told that's not really healthy like meat isn't healthy all this kind of stuff isn't really what you need to to be your best. But that was long. Are you ended up right away digging into in your search for Better Health? Yeah, and I think that and that's another thing a lot of people don't understand is a lot, you know the history like there are you know, it's genetic factors and what your body needs to be its best. It's one of the things they learned in studying health and nutrition science in the course work that I did at some of the universities in Northern California. So I actually went back to school to get science-based understanding of this stuff. Not just what you read from popular influencers or doctors that have kind of taken this new the the more of the month, you know, the I don't know how you exactly call it cuz like I said, there's no one right thing, but there's there's a certain thing that I guess you want to call it like wellness fads that are so overblown the birth. And he said that is so overblown that it just it completely it covers up. What's what the truth is and it's the thing is Food and Health aren't as, aren't complicated. We've made it complicated and I actually that's what I actually wrote my book about food on and it's a little book called love food love yourself and it was what I've learned in the three years from going to school from doing this first-hand. It's off. It's not about me it isn't bad for you bread isn't bad for you. Do you know who awesome gluten is? Oh my God, like carbs are bad for you. You can have sugar you can hack caffeine. You can have all these things but it's about the quantities of them. And then if you've got certain Health considerations whether you know, like if you have diabetes or you have cancer or like some extremes, I have an immune disorder called Graves disease, which has some weird funky things that happen with other areas of my body. So there are considerations in that but that's why you work with a trained licensed medical professionals. Address how you should eat not just a trendy Health influencer blogger health coach that never went to any sort of medically accredited school to figure that out. What I what it's like but in terms of like, you know, I'm Egyptian Moroccan and danish really? Yes. And so if you look at the we're on my dad's side, he's Egyptian American off when I looked at where our ancestors had come from and what their diets were go to major part of that like I do fine on meat. I I don't actually meet more than home with kind of a food group especially bacon, but I eat a lot of meat. I eat a lot of vegetables. I eat a lot of fruit and I do some you know, bread and stuff. I can't do dairy cuz I actually intolerable but I think you have to learn what your body needs in order to feed it correctly. And so that's my my thing on health. And so to say oh meets bad for you. You shouldn't eat it. It's going to make you age. You know, it's going to it contributes to cancer it contributes to all these things. Show me the show me reputable scientific studies that have been conducted to prove that conclusively, Usually if you do research on studies, whether they're done by the beef Council no disrespect or if they're done by an animal rights group. You can find the bias in how the study was conducted was interviewed who did it. So in terms of being credible, you've got to be neutral you have to be unbiased and you have to really look at something to find a true answer whether you like the results or not. But what I found is is like I said, we've made food and health so overly complicated because people like me who are great marketers what we use that to make you buy crap off. So so, where did you when would you say it was the moment where you first would call yourself a farmer the day you wanted to castrate a goat and it doesn't bother you dead. Step one step two is the day when no one really likes when the butcher comes to put down the pigs and you're like I got this. Can I turn the can I do it wage? That's number two and three when you can plant a quarter acre front at using horse manure and chicken poop and go poop that you've been composting for a year and a pile because no one was using this and use it as like, you know, kind of like do your own soil amendments and get enough food to feed five people for a season to grow. I think I did. Okay. Yeah know there are certain things like killing other things. I grew really well. So what time do you like to grow certain things that I know? I didn't kill the first two times. So what what do you grow now? And and what is your farming current farming situation? So I'm farming situation here at the ranch is so again bringing back soil Health, but what we will do next year is we have fruit trees here we have table. Asian pears, we have three varietals of apples and sadly the cherry trees are going to have to come out cuz they're just beyond coming back. There's like choosing black. Goop that's probably contaminated with God only knows what? Yeah, so we will do fruit. I'm going to bring back the Orchard and do fruit trees going to attempt to plant some figs that seemed to do pretty well in Washington cuz I'm a California girl and I I really need cigs, you know, and and I don't have delusions of pomegranates are avocados given the fact that we don't have those tropical Mediterranean climate, but it would be the dream. Yeah, so there's a month so maybe but definitely shashito okra long beans peas. I'm going to try and do some new stuff too that I don't find is commonly grown up here. A lot of the farmers seem to stick to the same wage type of stuff. I think that gets really boring really quickly. So next year's Garden will feature fun stuff and veggies to try and then the trees I think you're going to produce a very nicely dead. Just given the amount of rain we had so late and the fact that they probably haven't been tending in about eight years. They're not bad. It's just they need some help. So that is what I'm hoping to do here along with the horses Jews and that's kind of it. What do you do with what you produce is it do you eat at all? How much of your own food are you able to actually like well so Muslim, here's my joke. Most people who ordered toilet paper and canned goods. I kind of hoarded livestock this year. I do work on meat production with a dear friend of mine down in Duvall name Loretta and she runs feral woman Farms. I'm doing pork and chicken. So all my friends are going to be the beneficiaries of beautiful amounts of meat in the next three weeks as we are putting them down cuz it's time to harvest wage and then I'm just again it's going to be for friends and family. I am talking to a couple of the local csas that have developed in Seattle about doing like a season of production. Yep. Have enough just to diversify what they have available to their clients. So it'll be a hybrid and just be love food for friends, but you might find it in a certain to BT BD Wong CSA. If it comes out well enough for a couple of weeks is like kind of an exclusivity thing and then that's a trial run to see if that's a viable thing to do cuz well you'll have to let us know. So we can share that out on the on the Instagrams and whatnot. Absolutely let everybody know where to maybe try some of your food if if they have the chance of some posilutely. Yeah, there's some really cool local like wage, you know, a lot of the Farms have csas, but there are two newer ones in the Seattle area that focus on City residents one called local yolkal and the other ones called kin food and so am I really like what they're doing. So something kind of like, you know, very Boutique and very niches where I would start cuz you and I both know how hard it is to produce at any scale whether it's small AMR large, it's just it's a labor of love. Like I said right now. We're taking horse poo poo and chicken poo poo and we're making some some healthier soil because there's you know, like I need a it's it's off on the acidic side here, but nothing that we can't rebalance. It's not as bad as other other things I've seen so yeah, what what do you see as a key to soil Health? What does that look like? What does that mean, Washington? I'm on a learning curve. Everything's so luckily. I always you know, I do my samples I send them in and kind of look at what's needed. Usually what I'm finding up here is we it's always about nitrogen. There's always a nitrogen deficiency also this strange phosphorus and zinc deficiency that I found pretty consistently with. Of course, you can that's not hard to kind of cope with but you know it just in general because we're working with mostly clay in California. We don't have loamy soil who does any more you gotta make that stuff. We put it in raised beds or whatever, but California was I actually found it was harder because you had class and Club. Sam Hunt you're like well, have you grown this like some Alfalfa maybe like it's just right. So so it's that's been my challenge just kind of like looking at what we have and then like even with the thoughts think this beauty of having horses is that you're like, all right, I can use that poop. Got some chicken little can use that and then I'm just going slow. So that's how you correct. Basically the imbalances that you might find them funny. Yeah. Well, no. I just I I have a an organic fertilizer that I had that I buy online. So now I'll buy that I just used a quality product that isn't I just use something that's natural to amend that but I'm doing my best with what we have with, you know, having fifteen horses of this place. We there's plenty of good. That's what chickens and so there are many I guess there's many ways to do stuff. I'm just trying to do with what I have and I'll take the time well, and that's what everybody has to do. And that's what you talk about growing up this farm from Smith. And you're adding more. That's how that's what's so many farms stories are it's just adding this and then what could we do and just using what you have available? Yeah to then continue to build on that box. And one of the things that you're mentioning here is animals and that's what I've been hearing from a lot of other people as well. They're part of the circle of soil Health on one side healthy food on the other dogs and animals are in that Circle to help bring things that way. Well absolutely it's even the you know, the way we do our Hawks right the way like if you off I think you that's one of the things you saw like on my Instagram I I was photographing Lulu's little like the little Homestead that's down in Duval and on this this is some new level stuff. We tell them we are doing Forest raised pasture centered pork the newest Trend. He's thing all you Washington livestock producers have butcher cattle dog. Or or pigs entry areas the forest raised now that's like a new marketing. Why is that supposed to be a good thing or a market or what? So I think you know what? I I found a very I think it's because again, it's just like it's it's Forest Health. So as the animals are, you know, as you have animals weaving in and out of natural environments, whether it's a pasture or it's an area that has heavy amount of money what they're doing, you know, they're they're they're turning your topsoil, but they're fertilizing it when they poop it's really really natural not real hard. And so what comes back after wage eat out like, you know all of our love when when we have blackberries and Bumble wires that called bindweed there's so much knocks stuff that they eat out and they take out and what comes back is off, you know better than what they took out. I mean that that's just kind of it. It's very cyclical. We don't have to make it too busy, but that's that's exactly what we're doing and we just they get a large amount of space. Rotating around so they don't have a they're not they don't overgraze an area and they're they just live very natural normal low-stress lives before they become part of our health system. That's what I'm going to call it when you look at the whole system. Yes, we have like millions of people to feed just here in Washington. Is it possible to feed that many people that way or how many people well and I still how sustainable is that one again? Like I think this is where we have food bias. It's a really hard way of life you do it that way comes at a premium price. You can't make that meat three or four dollars a pound cuz it is first you're looking at, you know quantity your then looking at quality and then you're looking at a livable wage for the person doing it. It's why it costs more. So the answer is probably not because we have so many people two feet and unless there was a girl. Radical shift in the the minds of large producers and government and so many other factors that I am not qualified to talk about then the answer is no doubt, you know, if we incentivized smaller ranchers and producers more maybe if larger food companies that own the larger operations would you know forgo a little bit of that profit margins so that the we can increase quality of life of animals living wage of farmers, then we can make steps towards it but it's again it's there's so much to make that answer say yes, and again it comes down to people in their values that the answer is no I think it may Farmers make more money and and people don't like that cuz then this profit motive and people are just very suspect of that but knowing farmers and getting to know even more of them through this podcast, I know that the way Farmers think is if they have more money, they just plow it all but no pun intended back into the farm. Yeah. Yep. And that will make better food and healthier operations and more sustainable if farmers are able to make some money at what they're doing rather than just barely scraping by which is what we're hearing from what consumers don't understand is what little margin or negative margin is in this business. Like that's why I said like the number one person. That's my hero these days is any producer no matter how they do it because they were off work so hard for so little it's it's really that's why I say to my friends. I'm like fine you want better quality food. You want organic this Pony a part of your budget to pay for it and demand it from bigger companies so that you know, they there's a way for you to have this at a price you're willing to pay cuz at the end of the day, it's your demands and then larger, you know, the people that are, you know related to certain getting that you being willing to forego a little margin so that the person doing this for you growing your food or raising meat can bring this to your plate because it's just you off. Not going to get past your Fayetteville pasture-raised grass-fed this for $2 a pound or three dollars a pound. There's a reason it starts at 10. Okay. So if you don't like that then by a quarter of an Animal by half an animal by the whole hog. Yeah, like I said, oh I didn't finish my joke. Yeah. I I ordered livestock versus like basic stuff. So I have Robert Horton because you know, it's it's really worth just buying the whole animal and paying a farmer to raise it. That's that's an alternative to getting that higher-quality at a lower cost and more and more. People are doing that. Yes. Yeah like and that's the cool thing. I thought this Valley is most meets the essays are sold out through April of next year. And the most of the butcher's have so much backlog that you know, it's like months to get off more butchers to process that we need. We need our farmers are facing. Yep. And then I think we also need the structures for people to be able to connect with those dead. Yes, and I think that you know, it's really interesting even here in Washington the amount of like food startups that have seemed to come in. So like I mentioned local yolkal I mentioned kids can food, but then there's like Barn two door which is like an e-commerce platform for Farmers. I think they're pretty solid. I still don't think that you know, if you want to start your own CS a page and make your your products available direct to customers in the area. You don't have to go overboard. You can start with like a Wix website a a Shopify site a Squarespace site was all don't cost very much and then you want to make sure that you're searchable and you can be found and I have lots of free articles on my website, which is Mac a song. I wrote about here. So here are the eCommerce platforms. You can use here's how you use Google to to show up in local searches for food like you it's not as hard you need to put some time in, New Jersey. As most people think because I'm going to tell you the majority a lot of the most amazing producers. I've met this area. They don't even have a website right because they love producing food. They're Specialists it off well and animals and plants. Yeah. So but if you know your Revenue like, you know, like I think the CSA model is going to evolve very rapidly over the next few years. I think people are ordering tired of it cuz not everybody wants a box of vegetables every week and the same vegetables every week. So again, something like the local yolkal or the canned food. They're working on like diversifying that and not keeping it the same thing all the time and you know, they're even talking to their Partners about how they need more diversity because if you want people keep subscribing in to drive the revenue and to keep it growing we've got to add food diversity in the box office. So I've seen some really cool stuff happening in the midwest with their csas where they brought in local like, you know, like pasta makers and they're working with Greiner. He's to get like, you know, heirloom beans and wage. When they even do the salad dressing if it's a box of vegetables, so it's literally kind of like that put the meal together at the more evolved model of the get the pre-made stuff to your house and I like it. I like it a lot. So, you know and you've got the farm fresh to use and all the other kind of bigger ones, but I think that looking for locally like local based groups that can bring food to the table in a certain mile radius. Yeah is viable it's always freshest. It's great. So if you're not one of the people that likes to deal with the public check with some of your home your neighbors, maybe they are maybe you can get put that combination together where you can do meat eggs and veggie or fruit and it's and it's more of a package and let them run it and you do your your your Brilliance they do theirs and you know, it's good to test out new Revenue models. I think that's the number one thing covid-19 has to to understand is that we've got to diversify our revenue streams because nothing Is you know, you know pandemic proof acts of God, you know first we had to deal with water problems soil health problems wildfires. And now we have to deal with you know, talk about resilience like yeah, so let's go way back. Okay, where did you grow up? So I was born in Iowa, hence, you know understand the commercial side of of beef and pork cuz we have we had twelve hundred acres of that. And we you grew up on a farm. I started out from the farm we had was born in Iowa. My grandparents and it's still in our family but six generations of twelve hundred acres Minnesota cattle Cork, and then they did obviously story and corn and it's still not done that way to today. That's just what it's always been mom moved us to the city when we were eight cuz she just hated the farm life. And yeah, you know, that's that's kind of where I start. It's like I said I started off on a farm dog. Going to end up on a farm so that Family Farm was that your mom's side or your dad my mom's side. Yeah, and they it's been in the family since the early nineteen hundreds like they literally settle down and then have brought it through through today and now everyone's older and retired. So it's rented out to other producers and still maintained. So even though she was the farm kid with in the farm fact, she was the one that was done with it and wanted to go to the city exactly interesting. Yeah. So and then what did you do your in the city? So earlier about at least friends authorities off-road horses, no matter where I was and I was a barn kid, you know my first job when I was thirteen was on Arlington racetrack hot walking your old resources cuz I was just wow, I I did that with my first job. I'm like I just want to do this. I had no fear of dying. Just you know, that was my first job, even though you lived in the city, even though I lived in the city, I would always, you know, you can I would always I'd take a game. A train or a bus at least 45 minutes to get to More Country areas where their horses and then I went to college and so in the city was in l no no no, I grew up in Chicago say yes, I was Midwest girl. I think internet I missed that as it. Sorry. Not right now. I'm caught up. Okay. So Midwest girl. Okay, Rachel moved to the big city of Chicago with my mother when we were eight and was off till through through college. And then when I was just after September eleventh, I flew to Los Angeles realized it was sixty in January and left. I was like, I am not doing these -12 degree Winters anymore. Yeah. This is just through this and when you're like in when you're like twenty, you know, you're like, oh this is great idea. Yeah, you're not afraid of anything yet. Would you go to college for I studied I've started with art and then I majored in literature. I just yeah, I've always liked to learn and then so everything that I am. Now is nothing related to what I studied but I'm entirely self-taught because I love to learn and so you got you were still connected with farming as a kid, but you moved to LA home then what were you doing? What what did you jump into? Oh my gosh. I worked in fashion. I worked in music and okay, hold on fashion. What did you do in fashion? You just gotta really pull this I don't like to talk about myself. So I would you do. In fact, I'm fascinated by that my gosh. Okay, so normally talk to a farmer who has a background where they did stuff in fashion. I know right? Well this is this goes to the home of your life that you like. You live at the way people tell you even though it really doesn't serve you guess. So that was part of it. So in fashion, I was in House at a brand to start and then I started my own fashion blog page back in 08 when blogging was becoming trendy. Yep, and within a couple of years, I was ranked as one of the top fashion bloggers in the world. I could take pretty pictures of myself and put them on the internet, but I could write about the business page. The fashion I did a lot. I've done some collaborations with Brands like DKNY. I've been to London and seeing the Burberry fashion shows. I've been to Marc Jacobs show. I did a lot like in a New York to LA and I thought it was great. I got really bored with it cuz I learned something and I evolve very quickly. So after that I went into doing some entertainment stuff worked on some pretty notable movies and what with the movies I designed games that you played on social media to get excited about going to see the movies at the box office Thursday. They open yeah, because the only opening Revenue that apparently matters is opening box office. Yeah, which I never understood cuz there's so much money to be made and residuals. But anyway, yes didn't quite make sense to me. So I thought my job was to make you get excited to go see movies big movies, like it's snowing already like getting into marketing marketing, I guess in fashion really is that was yeah influencer marketing job. And then I became the director of digital content at Power 106 in L A. So, yeah worked, you know, like 4 a.m. Studio sessions from everyone from you know, Mark Wahlberg down to Martin Lawrence to 50 50 Cent the game produced a lot of live concerts with Nicki Minaj and Iggy Azalea and I burnt out of hip-hop and rap nine months because it was a crazy life. You know, what's it like you I think people know it's crazy. But what is it actually look like try to herd 5,000 goats and get them all to stay in one place at one time. I'll relate it back to farming now. Oh man crazy, it was crazy and you're always going you're always going there's always something to watch and so I've worked with so many talented people doing that and I learned a lot it was a constant evolution of of things, but then that's when again I started to burn me out cuz I'm like it was it's all very surface-level. It's like a. And money and cars and what do you have and what do you do and it just sounds like that's where like I said about 33 was like I can't live like this anymore. This is just crazy. There was just there was no dead. So, you know, like I said when and then I got into corporate marketing did it very very well and I liked it cuz it was way more streamlined. There was always it was about returning goals much more structured home learned a lot about data and analytics in that cuz it was always like well, how do we know what you're doing is working and you challenge me to that I'll be like I'm going to show you so I learned analytics and I learned that management and I learned very technical sides of of a lot of things and so that kind of killed the creative in me and then I learned to kind of level and balance them out. So. It's like taking all the things that I've learned that I love and I now again apply them to what we do in our business, which is great and that's where it came on if it's like I came out of a lot of big because that's what I was told I should do to be dead. Housefull and just realized I'm like this really sucks. But you said at one point this was earlier said you stepped away from a big chunk of your business. What was what business was that at that time? Was it doing that corporate marketing it was corporate a lot of corporate marketing across a few different Industries and I'll be honest with you. I gave up a quarter of a million dollars. I know it's like dream revenue for Farmers. I said, I don't want this anymore and I talked to the United staff of six at the time. They were so burnt out we were all burnt out and so miserable. I'm like, I'm going to burn those down there like, please do well, but we'll go down to part-time will do anything but we're miserable and one of my best person that I work with me for four years and she was my best friend. She actually quit and stopped returning my calls cuz it had gotten so crazy with our clients. She's like, I love you, but I'm going to literally die doing this so long cuz again, it was management of expectations everybody wants and they need and when you're being texted at like 8 a.m. On a Sunday to change a website banner, and it doesn't stop you like just to save Yeah, so it's almost like farming like when the cows get out at 4 in the morning. I'd rather deal with that Leslie's fun. Well, but a little more interesting get a little aggression on but you can't do that to a client. So yeah, we actually burn down 60% of our business and basically started over. What did that feel like was it scary? It was more relieved than anything else. I think I slept for about four days straight and there was no relationships burned. It wasn't anything bad. It was just like, you know what I understand what you need, but I can't provide this any longer. Here's a referral to someone who can do you need me to help you transition to them? Yeah. It was so seamless and beautiful like I made sure and most of them were very appreciative one person was really angry and they just like we don't need U again. Okay, no problem, but we made sure that whatever was needed to Let It Go was done and now I have you know, two of those people still work for me. The other ones have evolved into their own businesses the other two dead. That they just wanted to stay home with their kids and take care of them because that was where they went in life. And we do good work. You know, you said yeah, you were saying things about like our business and that's what I was going to ask you like them who is involved in the business Beyond you so I have a wonderful assistant who works for me and I called her Michaela number two, cuz she's got my brain and she's she learns anything down everything as I teach it to her. She's very analytical she is amazing and just like met her a couple she actually replaced someone that had worked for me for four years like then that was my you know, Kesha who actually is part of another you know who has influence on the new business for Great Britain, which is the ranch but she's doing more of a kid thing. So my new assistant is just amazing and she's learning to kind of become me and I think at some point she'll step into a bigger role. I have an amazing illustrator artist and graphic designer named Christina who her family is raised Quarter Horses fog Ever I have another writer named Melissa. She's going to editorial. She runs three hundred head of cattle out of Kansas everybody that works for me works on a ranch. Like that's how how great full circle it's come so I'm like, okay, I'm sorry. I'm going to be late on this because the cows did this I'm like, oh I still understand you. Okay. Yeah, and then the developer I work with she's in Texas and they have everything. So her kids ride pro rodeo and she has cattle and goats and everything. So, you know as things evolved, you know, I thought it was it's I just found it was very interesting alignment that everyone that now works in my company name is related to agriculture in some sense and it's worked out beautifully because we all understand the challenges of the farm and on-farm life. Yeah, you know how long we've running jokes like, okay what happened on your Ranch this week? It's like well, we lost a bunch of because of this thing like it's you know, it's real life. So that's you know, it's your happiness is a dog. Earth money it's just not and I think that's why a lot of people grow and produce cuz you know, there are people are more profitable than others. Right? Like there's it's but it's like if you're happy doing what you do, then do it, even if it's not as effective as it could be if you're if you're fulfilled whatever that means to you not what it means to other people. So, you know, we do well now it's not as big as it was but we're not and it couldn't can we get better? Yes, but I am not driving it that way. We're letting it grow very naturally cuz every client that we have in like the food with a lot of Wellness right now just because of all the the focus on functional food food is Medicine Bow driving a lot of what we're working with and so we're just making sure that we're not producing like fad or Trend stuff based on the new hype or really aligning to what it really means. So we've got a lot of that happening right now and it just comes very naturally. They're all very open and easy to work with and their collaborative. So as new comes in we just we grow those relationships very long. Slowly very thoughtfully and just love the work we do and then it doesn't feel like doesn't really feel like work even though we're doing work and it also leaves me time for you know the girls and you know feeding that farming side of myself and I'm like, I'll never let that go cuz it's just become like self care for me or whatever trying to determine. I can try and grow in there. There's so much to the story of yours is miserable here. It's very non-linear. It's very very loopy. I know but that's what makes it great. You did mention earlier that you were about getting to The Truth About Food and Health and all of that and you've mentioned you know, the myths out there. Yeah. So what are the big lies that people are being told right now, and I wrote about this. I saw I wrote this really cool post that no one liked and that one's the got so you got me death threats. I'll be aware. Oh, yeah because I wrote about six Mick Smith six misconceptions you have about Why would people give you a death threat about an article like that? Well, no one like me writing about butchering or raising animals for food and a lot of it comes off. I mean not to bash a plat thousand but medium is like ripe with very left-wing, you know animal rights activists that those are the people that threaten me the people that want the animals to live or you know in harmony with people. I'm like a stone so counter-intuitive to then threaten people with death. That's that's what surprised me like you say desperate like what do they say Obviously like the it was dead. I've been told I should be slaughtered like my animals. I should be butchered slowly. So I feel what they feel. The latest one recently was. I hope someone in your you know, hopefully maybe one day you'll have a relationship that's abusive and they'll whip. You like you whip your horses, that's disgusting. Yeah and those and then they most of the the short versions. Usually they're very long and they make no sense. It's like all these ideas and weird things off. Together you're just like you think maybe there's a mental health thing going on I think so, I mean but it's and usually in the first couple I could handle so I just stopped like actively talking about, you know Bush doing as much right like I didn't post like us breaking down animals or anything like that. But and that's why I stuck to the horses and the gardening and that seemed to go for a little bit better just because it's not worth it wage, but that is you know, so the myths it's like people as producers like oh God. Did you feed that pig or that cow corn and soy? Oh, it's so unhealthy could trigger are allergies because people are also allergic to corn and soy, so I dug into I'm like, okay, we know that people can have reactions, you know, whether it's a there's differences between food sensitivities food allergies and food intolerances. Yep broke that down recently too. So I looked into corn both organic GMO and non-GMO and then I looked at Roy as birth. H2 can animals eat it. How does it interact in their diet and then could it possibly trigger a reaction from someone who's sensitive to corn or soy as a human thought this was a lot of research it took me like two months to write this in this is a possible. Okay, fine. Well first well, they can eat animals can eat corn and soy sauce. You don't give Raw Story to a pig cuz digestion issues and a few other things. It's better articulated in my posts. Yeah, but yes, they can eat it and no it does not cause a trigger of the reactions of people that have sensitivities in their diet. I found one study that possibly alludes to the fact that commercial chicken that had a high corn feed could possibly affect like, you know, if if someone that a human that eats it if they have corn sensitivities that chicken that was raised on corn fields. Might trigger something but it wasn't even reputable like and I dug deep it took so long and then just you know, so many of these things real I had one of my professors at 3 a.m. To make sure that I had it right cuz again research person and then I had to like, you know, like you you'd call them, you know regenerative egg beef producers read it to just because this was New Age territory for me. So it's like that was a major thing. It's like everyone's like, oh, do you feed your animals soy and corn and and how do I know you're and like you're like to hear people at the farmers market happening about their the diets of the meat that they're buying from the local producer yet. They have no understanding of it. You're just like Could you actually read something that isn't based on a headline on some trendy ass? Well in this blog is ridiculous. And so I learned that was a big piece of it and I had to break down organic. I had a breakdown pasture-raised 100% grass fed off. Versus something that might be grass and grain or grain only I'm telling you. I love some beads. That's had some grain get how much better it tastes. It's fats better. So I like a combination. I like it to have space but please feed it some green. It tastes way better when you cook it. Well and I think there's a misconception grass-fed versus green finished grain finish beef is never raised start to finish off grain. Yeah. So like what eighty 90% of its died over its life is still grass? Yes. And so it's like all these little nuances are so only 100% grass fed and pasture-raised as even healthy meat. It's like no those aren't even factors to consider that someone marketing that to you to make you pay for x and that was like, I think number two, but there was a lot of things in there where I'm just you know to take the time to take apart a lot of the consumer misconceptions and then to be met with people who threaten you and or tell you that you know, you're wrong. I'm like, well I use science research to write this this isn't just an opinion. This is the this is the closest to breaking down this as I could find. I may not be right. I'm not saying I am but when I do the research, is this bad for Animals since I raise animals, I want to know what they should eat like, especially even my horses. I research everything that's in the grains that I feed them in the supplements and I trace them back to who makes them and where the ingredients are a new age know they end up telling people then the day I'm like if your food says USA on it at the grocery store just buy it cuz let's not go too much on a tangent about like food standards and standards of things made from outside the US but I'm going to tell you if I have to eat a conventional avocado from California versus something that's been imported. I'm going to eat my us made food and not to knock each other countries. But again as you read and learn you're like, oh, I don't know about that like even if you read like a book like what is it Marion Nestle like her book like she talks month. About how she tested food from other countries and things from overseas and what she found and everything else. Yeah, we gave to think that things work the same way across on the other side of the world in a different culture different government totally different part of the world food standards. So that's yeah at the end. I'm just like I like to see people eat real food. It's why I recently wrote about, you know, even the supplement industry and like we need supplements to a degree, but now that the that's the latest thing with the supplement companies to sell you more expensive vitamins that don't need to cost that much is they tell soil degradation and quality of product and like and I'm like this is it's just a marketing Ploy like number one don't eat crap, you know shut the perimeter. It's we serve food isn't as complicated as we've made it. Do you need to take supplements like in Washington? We need Vitamin D. Yeah, cuz we don't have son eight months a year, but do we have to take this hundred to $150 a month in pill birth? And liquids know that's unrealistic. Yeah, put the hundred dollars in to produce salad. It's a fruit loop more. No doubt. It's just got a horse you put the put the heck what the ground pay in you put little little little silly in in their poop comes out and it's called light bulb nature and that's how it works and it's healthy and that's what we should be getting are vitamins and minerals from is a well-rounded diet as much as you can, you know, and if you're not alone night, I was other thing I said, I'm like look have get proper testing to see if you have food allergies or sensitivities or intolerances, but if you're not allergic to milk to me milk is better than the highly processed salt melts off on the market if I could do dairy a wood and I just wouldn't do do loads of it right like my balance out my meat I do chicken I do. I don't need a lot of fish cuz it's just not my thing. But like I said, Red and white and I do the best quality I can from what's available to me. And then I just make sure I balance out everything else I need and I don't take a lot of supplements cuz I don't need them. I feel great choice and I'm active and pretty much like once I came to that and stop being so bent on it. Everything leveled out. I do well haven't been sick and that's just kind of it so often. Like I said, it's it's when you break down a lot of these these high P things they don't like it because it's not their truth that they've chosen to believe in like no, I need all my vitamins and supplements. I'm like, okay. I want to be a health food. Junkie. There's a disorder for that that's actually in a disorder now. So if you want to exercise a lot great go for it. But you know, you don't have to overdo it. You know, I used to work out three hours a day and not I'm like I clean our barn three times a week and that's enough for me. That's my strength training working with a horse. There's my flexibility and Mobility cuz she Victoria's teaching me to dance with my babies. I'm Not Dead. Coordinated I look like a freak but I'll get there so, you know, it's it's that's I think that's a lot of what it's about. So dispelling the myths you just you have people tell you you're wrong or they risk violence on you and for covid-19. Everything was I can't quite articulate it cuz I've already deleted you're just like what the yeah, that's that's so yeah, it's you know, and so I'm just like, you know, what and you block those you delete them, but I'm just like I can't just I'm going to ignore it but you're like, why would you wish someone harm that's trying to do better. By the way that the food that we eat that we need to stay alive is produce. Yeah, like go time and it's crazy. You're not the first person that I've talked to on this podcast who has gotten death threats simply for talking about food and farming rep online with crazy being factual about it in a sense versus aligning to whatever Trend everybody's on in the and bye-bye, they're not even the majority. Like I look up to him. Like what percentage of the world is vegan what I'm like, it's much lower. I think the the best most current statistic and it's a few years old that I could find was 16% of the global population are vegan. Vegetarian I thought would be much more but it's like Global there was again, I was a few years old, but I I'm like, okay, that's not as big as I thought that tells me people eat meat people eat dead. So while there's like a loud voice that's not the majority. So again, I think it's just if you it's just about doing your own level of investigation and finding what's meaningful to you. But also the fact that what someone else's choices are for food, if they don't align to yours you cannot attack them for that. In fact, maybe it would be better to have a dialogue with them about why they eat the way they eat compare what you do and you might find some common ground cuz I'll tell you like I think it's become like, you know with all the political stuff and that's happened. Like I'm mixed race. I'm a single woman in egg, but you know who's helped me mostly white farmer and most of them voted for Trump. I'm going to be honest about it like I'm like, but that's because this wasn't about political views this was you know, what I was willing to work and they were willing to teach and I was open to changing my life. So I've never felt discriminated against by someone in a more rural predominantly white area. They're the ones that taught me. They're the ones that helped me so that that might not be what somebody wants to hear on your podcast, but it's truth and to be honest if I needed some place to go live tomorrow. Those are the people that have open doors ready for me like just to be honest. It's like wow. Oh you always have a home in Texas. You can come back to California out here, you know. Yeah, it's it's you know, what they might be more conservative. They might be Christian. They might have voted for Trump. But you know what those young people that I call family they never discriminate against me because of race or anything else like they were happy wanted to learn cuz a lot of people don't want to do the work. Yeah, you know, and of course like I don't ever want to do it at that scale wage. Again, it's a lot of work and I was burning out but at least I learned again, like I said fall down a hole and you're like, oh, I don't know how I got here, but this is cool. But have a lot again. That's why I say respect anyone who does anything for food because it is offered as life. Where can people follow what you're doing. Well I have the ranch is going to be at Grace and wit, and it's an evolutionary thing that's growing. It's going to be like a coaching business slash things that were still developing based on how we do so changes every week. We're almost like farming. Yeah exactly. We're getting there. So we've got like horse programs and wage and then with just my marketing work and a lot of the research that I do. So if you want the brainy articles about well, sorry guys, this isn't true or how to Market a better Market your business and tools. I love to write about that stuff. That's the academic Ami so it's m a c a l a. Okay. So that's what I do. Remember I know right? I know it's trendy and then the other one is gray. Great and width.com and Instagram. I'm Michaela. So that's how did you get that handle? Remember I started the internet home page. It's like the first hundred people and sweater, which I deleted cuz I hate Twitter now. Thank you so much for sharing all of this backstory which just brings so much more to the already cool stuff that you're doing. There's a lot of people like me kind of moving image the spaces others move out cuz we're just we're like we can't live like this anymore. We want to do something different. So my best takeaway is like support local food producers. If you are a like a boss I can also who buys food or you know, what tried growing some of it yourself, you know, take their classes so many more and more of the younger producers are offering classes, whether it's butchering or tum raising chickens in your backyard or how to grow a small garden. There's a lot you can do so play with it, but try and understand someone's way of doing something before you judge them and condemn them. Thank you for having me out here to the farm this thank you for coming, you know, it's been a while and Bridget if you're listening. I love you like inspired me to do this. This is the real food real people podcast. These are the stories of the people who grow your food. Well, I think that's the first time we've ever had a horse try to make yourself known interview. That was a lot of fun though. I really enjoyed the conversation with McKayla and oh man, we just got talking even further down afterwards about all these things that can be done and connections that could be made. So I think this isn't the last we've heard from her and there's a lot more good stuff to do again. If you want to check her out of line Grace grit and wit is her website Grace and wit all one word, as well as long as as she said Mikala just Mac a Michaela's that's how she spells her name Mac a is her home. 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