20 Burst results for "Arkansas Derby"

"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

03:12 min | 3 months ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Yeah, I mean, that was. Obviously when we've been looking forward to get the proverbial monkey off our back and winning a Derby and just it was funny because we went into the winter after he'd won the Kentucky jockey club in the fall at Churchill and ramp so well we knew we'd like the surface there and so we sort of went into the winter thinking that he had a legitimate chance that the Derby and hopefully getting there and it just seemed like nothing was going really well for him for most of the winter. We were just having trouble get them into a groove and he got sick and it was just kind of one little thing after another and finally we got a delayed start in the Tampa Derby and I think we ran well but wasn't fully cranked up for that and then we were planning on going probably to the wood or at the time and then he got another little temperature and so we had a setback for that that just seemed like we were having trouble getting on schedule for we ended up using the Arkansas Derby as a backup plan and he lost a tough photo there, but it was just one of those things that everything seemed to start to go right for the horse and the three weeks after the Arkansas Derby just came into himself. He was moving great and loved Churchill and Brie super there and just everything went for that three week period just everything came together and sometimes you'd love to be able to control those things with all of them in some cases. It just happens and it was perfect for him and get a perfect trip and let track and all those things just kind of fell into place and sometimes you need new things to go your way a little bit and get a lucky break and I think we got a few of them especially those last couple of weeks leading into it and with the wet track and he was just he was the best he had been at any point in his life at that time. Todd putter with us here on trainer talk presented by phasic tipton looking back on some of the most memorable moments that we've seen over the years and there have been so many for Todd and for his entire team. It's been quite a ride. We're going to continue to do that in the second half of the program. We're going to look back on some of the other names that it's kind of a trip down memory lane, so to speak, because we're going to look back on names like a shadow and English Channel and wait a while and spite town and even flower alley, some of those names that we grew up with in the sport that Todd has been part of. So it should be a lot of fun, JT. Yeah, looking forward to it. Todd, if you don't mind, stay with us. We're going to take a quick break. We will come back the second half of trainer talk presented by phasic tipton is next. After the breeders

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"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

06:15 min | 8 months ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Callers on hold. So let's go out to the phones right now. Steve in New York. Welcome to the bris net dot com and show my friend. So Bobby, long time. How's everything, my man? Hey, Steve, how are you? Good, good. So real quick on the Triple Crown. So well, actually, first of all, Rosario costs that the pregnancy. Epicenter will win that race by one to three lengths if after the horse breaks a little slow, he just does what any competent jockey would have done and rushed the horse into position that you need to be in. If he's riding or fine, you drop back to the rail and then you let the horse run in the lane. But that's not the case without ever saying. We know that. Anyway, the Triple Crown, the issue and I'll hang up at this, let you comment. But you're not going to get these guys, especially the top owners and trainers who really we know they're racing to breed, right? They're not really breeding to race all the money they're looking for is in the breeding shed. You got to give them some incentive to run. And these days, the money for these guys, like look at Chad Brown with zanden, for example, it's not really, it's not really about the money because they're going to get the money in the breeding. And there's going to be other bigger pots for horses like that down the road. You have to add some exclusivity to the Triple Crown, right? So what is it? This would never happen. The Arkansas Derby in the Florida Derby. They're not going to give up their grade one status. But when you make these prep races, grade ones, and now it gives these guys opportunities for xan and to win the bluegrass, a grade one. And he's like, all right, I'll go for The Kentucky Derby because everybody wants to win that. But after that, there are a number of I've already taken down a grade one. I got that on my resume. And there's some other restricted opportunities later in the year. Now, if you only have the Triple Crown races as well as the Travers and the Pennsylvania Derby as the few and the Haskell, obviously, has a few restricted grade ones for three year olds. Guess what? These guys are running in these races. So the preps either, either you say, listen, if you get into the Derby gate, you have to run into these three races. That's part of the commitment or you say, listen, the bluegrass, the orchestra Derby, the Florida Derby, et cetera, the wooden world. These are all going to be great shoes. And only a few select races are going to be restricted to three year old grade one races in the three year old year. And that's it and that's how you fill the gates and that's how they run. All I hang up with comment, man. All right. Well, interesting thoughts. And I don't think it's viable that any of it ever happens. What you're hoping for to happen. Because it can happen if one entity owned all these racetracks. There is no way that you're going to be able to that the graded stakes committee or these tracks are going to willingly lower the grades of their big races. Listen, the Florida Derby is the biggest race at Gulfstream. I know it's not the highest first. Pegasus is the biggest person. Florida Derby is the biggest race of culture. They're not willingly saying, yep, I think we should make it a great too. Instead of a great one. Nope. That's never happening. There's also no way that you can rope people into a two minimum two race Triple Crown commitment. There's just there's always going to be ways around that. All you need is a vet to sign off and say horse is not healthy enough to run in this race and not healthy enough to run the next race and it is what it is. So I don't think plus I just don't think that it's viable that you can force anybody's hands. So the exclusivity part I like, but the ways that you were mentioning, I don't think are viable at all. I'm not saying I know what a viable way is. I just don't think those ways could ever come to fruition. Listen, this is not a problem. The Preakness has no problem any year. Except the year when a healthy, happy, Derby winners connections just with no other reason other than we feel like waiting decide to pass on the Preakness. The Preakness winner, the Preakness gets the Derby winner every year two weeks later, every year and to be perfectly honest, who cares who's in the starting gate besides the Derby winner. We care, I mean, you care Steve, I care. People listening to the show, we like the game. We like to bet on the game. We either work in the game or where fans or we're degenerate gamblers or whatever. We're going to play no matter what. The general public, the people who are coming up to you and saying, what do you think about that Derby winner? That person who doesn't watch any races a year, except that. They don't care who's running against the Derby winner in the Preakness. They just want to see the Derby winner in the pregnancy. That's the only reason they watch. And this never happens. It never happens. Country house a few years ago, never ran again after being placed first in the Derby. That one year it happened. Grindstone never ran again after winning the Derby in 1996. You can't help that. Spend a buck had a $2 million bonus on the line if he won the Jersey Derby after winning The Kentucky Derby. So they ran in that. By the way, the Jersey Derby is this weekend at Monmouth park. Other than that, nothing. Gato del sol, I think, was the last one was a 1980, something like that. The last one who willingly skipped the Preakness to run in the Belmont. So this never happens. One time it happens, this long shot horse, 80 to one who almost nobody thinks is going to win. Wins and they come up with, well, we're going to skip and wait for the Belmont. Now everyone thinks everything needs to change. I don't think anything needs to change. I don't think you change everything because of one outlier like this. Let's go back to the phone's Eric in Texas. You've got Bobby Newman here on the brisket dot com, Colin, so tell me I'm wrong, Eric, or even better tell me I'm right. Thank you, rap, Bobby. I like to listen to you guys and I really like to listen to Charles and why he has to say about it. And I too was at the Preakness. I went there in person. And. I.

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"arkansas derby" Discussed on Behind the Bets

Behind the Bets

02:58 min | 9 months ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on Behind the Bets

"In the way that they have been playing. All right, now look at the NHL postseason. We've dabbled in the NBA postseason. There's no postseason in horse racing, but there are three banner races. And we have the Preakness stakes this the running of the pregnancy I should say, this Saturday Anita, I know you're big into the ponies. So anything you'd like to offer our listeners before Saturdays of race. Yeah, absolutely. So this has led to the Triple Crown. The difference here is you're going from 20 horses to 9. It's pretty significant. Also, you're going to a track, which is this race is a half a furlong shorter than Churchill downs in The Kentucky Derby. So you want to look for a lot of speed. And as always, Tyler, we're always looking for value, right? Epicenter is going to be favored hands down, best three best three year old horse. This season. There's no denying that. But, you know, there are upsets in sports and there could be an upset on Saturday. I'm looking at creative minister, the number two horse right now ten to one, not sure that those are going to be the odds. It posts time, but nonetheless, I'm going to play creative minister to win and place, which for those that aren't into horse racing, which means that either is going to win or come in second. It's trainer mcphee has won the Preakness before. This is a horse that runs a very fast time. In fact, ran in the Derby undercard is one of the fastest on Derby day, but the only thing is no Lasix is allowed in the Triple Crown. So, you know, got to keep an eye on that. Will he run as fast, not using Lasix. Also, let's hear it for the girl. And that secret owes, the Philly won the Kentucky oaks. She's just unbelievable. She's got a great jockey on her on Saturday, say. This will be the second time that she's racing against the big boys. She finished third. And the Arkansas Derby as well. So I'm going to play, I'm going to play her to win place or show. Also, I'm going to play an exact box with the two with creative minister with the four with secret oath, and I'm going to throw in, obviously, at the center, because it is the favorite, should have won the Derby, his chalky Rosario moved too soon, allowed rich strike to get inside and we saw what an amazing feat that was for rich strike to win at 80 to one. So those are three ways that those are three ways that I'm going to play the Preakness and you should walk away with some good coin. Hopefully, if the two of the four and the 8 come in first, second and third in whatever order. All right. That'll do it for our Friday edition of the daily wager podcast. No daily wager today. Again, because of the PGA Championship coverage. So we won't see you back on air on ESPN2 until Monday, but there is a bet show on our digital platforms. ESPN sports betting is the best way to access that will be live for that show at 4 p.m..

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"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

06:06 min | 9 months ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"So make sure you go over there to shade mount dot com and check it out. Well, Brad Cox talked about the post positions for his three horses earlier this week when he joined us on our Derby countdown show. And here's what he had to say. I'm good with the draws. Tommy port, I don't think it mattered a whole lot where he drew is just going to break and kind of settle and find his way going into the first turn. I'd expect him to be in the second half or the second half of the field. So maybe a little more forward. Definitely a more forward just maybe right off the pace. And that's a good thing about being out there. You know, he can break many Franco kind of look over and he's going easy enough. And he can get the lead. I'm okay with that, but we're not going to use him up too much early and then obviously cyber knife drew next to a fast horse and classic causeway. And he can break and maybe follow him to the first turn and see how it goes. While cyber knife is in post 16, tawny port the Lexington stakes winner post 18 and zozo in post 19, the most highly regarded of those is the Arkansas Derby winner cyber knife and Brad spent some time talking about him with us too. I thought it was really, really good. I thought for fleuron to move as early as he did and put him in position and then to finish up you come to the quarter pole and I mean he still had a hold of him and he finished up well, I probably got to maybe a little bit maybe a little bit lost and we've been out a little bit late. But I just think that's him continuing to learn and I've always said that I think the better the better horses the source runs against the better performance he's going to show just because he's a horse that I think relies on being near or close to other horses and he can kind of he has a real high cruising speed he kind of carry himself along and when asked to go, hopefully he's learning to accelerate and kick away. We've thought for a while that he could be our Kentucky Derby horse. He's obviously got us here and now his last two works have been, they've been really, really good. I thought it was work this week. I thought it was work two weeks ago was really good. I thought I was working this past week. It was even better. Well, if Brad likes the fact that cyber knife elevates his game when he runs with better horses, he's going to get the chance again later today because this field is really loaded really well balanced in cyber knife the Arkansas Derby winner, the most highly regarded of the three Brad Cox. 14 to one, again, tawny port 67 zozo, 39 to one. They're all breaking toward the outside of the field, which you're better off being outside than inside in a 20 horse field. We'll see if that works out for Brad Cox this year. Todd pletcher will send out a trio of runners two. He has charge it. He has mode on, and he has pioneered Medina, and here's what Todd had to say when he joined me on trainer talk to talk about charge it. Yeah, a big beautiful cold super mover ran great in his first two races. He's just missed in his debut going a mile and came back and went impressively in the second start. So it was a big, big jump up going from one turn made and went to turn grade one and he gave up a lot of experience and then that showed on him a little bit. The last 16th of a mile, he was a little green kind of veered in and veered out and just couldn't quite hold a straight course, but that was an encouraging effort and I think he's loaded with talent. He's got tactical speed. If you can get away from the gate cleanly and given us every indication that the mile and a quarter he's going to appreciate so it's really just biggest concern is just as lack of experience. I don't think I don't think he's giving up anything from the talent standpoint. It's just we hope we have enough seasoning into them. The lack of experience can sometimes manifest itself in the mental side of a horse, especially with a 150 160,000 people there and they come over on the walk over and everybody's yelling and screaming. The panic atmosphere is something like they've never experienced before. Do you feel comfortable that charge it off of just three lifetime starts has that mental fortitude to be okay on the first Saturday in May? Yeah, I mean, he's like a lot of the topics. You know, he's kind of a curious cold and it can be a little studious at times, but I'm not as concerned about that part of it is just the race itself in a 20 horse field and some kickback and a lot of traffic and that's more of my concern than any of the any of the pre race craziness that goes on. So I think you'll handle that part of the world just more concerned about the trip itself and I think really what's going to be key for him is getting away from the gate cleanly, which unfortunately did not afford a Derby and the good thing about that is he got a lot of education that he would not have gotten had he broke cleanly and just been up on the pace without getting any dirt in his face or any traffic. So hopefully what we gave up there will gain back in the big race, but I think you'll handle all that pretty well. Again, charge it is a horse that has looked great on the racetrack each and every morning throughout the week he's become a buzz horse and many people are going to have him on their tickets Todd saying pretty much the same thing that Kieran said about the break being critical. They want to have this horse close to the pace early if they can and he has the speed to do it, but he has to get out of the starting gate and we'll see if that unfolds the way they hope it will later today. Charge it post 8 currently 13 to one. Pletcher will also saddle the wood memorial winner who broke from the inside post. Here's what he had to say about Moderna. Is a promising call from the beginning. Ran well in his debut sprinting, which is clearly not what he wants to do, but really finished up well, came back and was able to win in his second start and then when the rims that are the mile RNA two year old gives you high hopes. Stretching out to my own a quarter is what he's hopefully really going to want to do. What I was most impressed about in this wood memorial wind was he closed the final quarter in 23 and two fifths, which is very difficult for any horse to do, especially young three year old in aqueduct, which can be in a demanding surface..

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"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

05:44 min | 9 months ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Prep in Tampa and he started to come around a little bit and he ran a good second at oak line in the Arkansas Derby but the three weeks from the Arkansas Derby to The Kentucky Derby were like the best three weeks of his career and just everything fell into place. He had a good work over the track, Calvin gave him a terrific ride and he loved to swap and it's just one of those things that everything went as well as it could possibly go for that time period. Is there, I don't even know how to ask you this question. But is there an art form for a trainer to get a horse ready to peek on the first Saturday in May? I mean, you mentioned that the three weeks from the Arkansas Derby to The Kentucky Derby were the best three weeks of his career. Is that anything that you did differently or was it just super saver coming into his own? Well, I mean, I think it was some of what we did all winter trying to get him over the hump. And it just took that long to get him right and then it just kind of all fell into place. And sometimes you can control those things to a degree and then other times it just you know, it's going to happen and sometimes you can't make it happen as much as you want to, but because Biden I know means that we want to not be thriving for some of those other races. It took some time to fine tune it and for him to come around and, you know, in a situation like that where you got a temperature, you just focus on trying to get them healthy and going again. So some of those things are beyond your control and maybe turned out to be a blessing in disguise that got held up a little bit and then everything came together just the right time. Well, super saver gave you that first one. You described it earlier as being a bit of a relief. 7 years later, you come back and you win your second Kentucky Derby with always dreaming and that's appropriate that we're talking about it on this show during this week because we are celebrating always dreaming it is dream big week presented by windstar here on the horse racing radio network. I say the name always dreaming what things come to mind. Well, just, I mean, I felt like that was the one time we really came in and felt like we had a big, big chance to win and we had the worst to beat and train exceptionally well. The entire winter, you know, every move that we made seemed to be the right one and John Velasquez came in and worked him. He worked dynamite 59 and changed Johnny got off him and said, you know, I think we got the right one this year and then the race itself just when we kind of analyze the way we felt like the race was going to unfold and where we were going to be positioned going by the wire the first time. Just I mean literally everything that Johnny and I talked about unfolded exactly the way we had projected and just everything fell into place and the horses just thriving at the right time again. Yeah, it all came together for always dreaming and you know now that he's on to his second career as a stallion. I'm always curious when when you have a horse that meant this much to you and to your career, how closely do you follow his stud career? Well, we followed closely and it's always interesting to see his babies or any of the sires that we've been able to train see them at the sales and follow them closely at the thing that was so impressive about always dreaming such a tremendous athlete. It's just you watch him just simply walk. He always reminded me of like a big panther cat that just he had this really sleek way of moving and just a great action. So it'll be interesting to see how that crosses over to his babies and thought he had a pretty good OBS April so it looked like they're a breeze in pretty well and starting the prices were coming up a bit. So as they say the proof is always in the pudding, but I'd like to see him get off to a good start. That's a great description of always dreaming. If Todd, if you could design your ideal Kentucky Derby horse, physically, mentally, what does that horse look like to you? Yeah, I mean, we always talk about balance a lot and that's one of the things that my dad always preached to me when we were looking at horses that yearling sales or what how do you just balance and more than ready was a great example of that. He wasn't a real big horse, but just so smooth and well balanced and I think those kind of horses are athletic and agile and can accelerate and put you into a spot. Those are the kind of attributes you need in a big field like this. You need to have enough tactical speed to put yourself in a good spot and enough acceleration to when that gap opens up to be able to punch in there and then obviously stamina to go along with it. So it's at athleticism that allows you to make those quick, quick moves that can hopefully keep you out of trouble and get you to the right spot at the.

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"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

06:38 min | 9 months ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Was my, you know, it was my track growing up. I didn't mention this when I went through my background, but I was actually operations director at Oklahoma park for a couple of years. I think they've been subpar. And I don't really know why. It's kind of a, you know, some years prep races in particular track can be exceptionally strong and then another year as they aren't. I loved what Oklahoma did this year moving the Arkansas Derby back to 5 weeks before The Kentucky Derby. But in year one of that change for whatever reason, it hasn't really panned out. I thought the rebel was really weak and I thought the Arkansas Derby was weak also. Yeah, well, we'll find out next Saturday. Andrew sends in and he's asking about the Japanese contender crown pride. What do you make of crown pride, Randy? You know, I haven't put boots on the ground yet in Louisville. I, in my early look at the Derby and at the UAE Derby, I thought that crown pride was going to be a 30 to one shot and legitimately so. I didn't like the fact that he didn't change leads. I didn't think the competition that he beat was all that strong in the UAE Derby. But then what I read from like Mike wells and some guys that I respect watching the workouts, they've been very impressed with the way crown pride has looked in the morning. So I want to get a look at him myself. I still don't think you can put him as anything other than a long shot to maybe include underneath in some of your tries and supers, but man, Mike, the way these Japanese horses are running right now all over the world. I mean, horses that look like they don't have much of a chance on paper or jumping up and running big. Yeah, they used to be automatic throw outs. I don't know if we can do that with the Japanese runners anymore. Jeff is in Chicago, Jeff, go ahead. You are hosting the show. You are on with Randy Moss. Hi, Jeff. All right, hey there. Hey there, Randy. Good to talk to you. You know, I was watching the Olympics and I started seeing you on all these random sports and I was just wondering how you got involved in doing that. And if you have a favorite, if you ended up having a favorite sport to cover from the Olympics or a non horse racing sport that you really liked. You talk about random sports in the Olympics. Oh my gosh, over my Olympic career career would belong in quotes there. I have covered ski jumping, synchronized swimming, water polo, whitewater canoeing, and kayaking, race walking, snowboarding, freestyle skiing, and of course equestrian events over the last couple of years. And it got started when I went to NBC in 2011. You know, they knew I had a background with NFL network as well and I'd done some other sports and they asked me if I would be willing to go to London for a few weeks to do the 2012 Summer Olympics and I said, let me check my schedule. Okay, I'll do it. And it's been a blast. As far as my favorite sports of those other than equestrian because I'm a horse guy. I think I would have to say the snowboarding this year. You know, I mean, how many other times in your life are you going to get to chat with people like Sean white and the Chinese American girl Eileen goo and people like that snowboarding has become so popular in the Olympics every winter cycle that this was my first snowboarding experience in Beijing this year. And I really enjoyed it. Jeff appreciate that. All right, thanks. Thanks, Jeff. Appreciate the phone call. 888-966-4776 number to call. You have about three or four minutes left to ask your question of NBC analyst Randy Moss, who was with us on this week's edition of you be the host. Randy Chris and Dallas emails in and wants to know about your preparation getting ready to, let's see, cover The Kentucky Derby on television. It's pretty exhaustive. Mine and Jerry Bailey's, we spend a lot of time every day on the phone and emailing and texting because it's not just The Kentucky Derby in the Kentucky oaks, but we have 12 races on the undercard. That we're going to be doing as well. And we take those undercard races at least Jerry and I didn't want to take them very seriously. Just the other day, we were laughing. I texted or called 71 trainers. Wow. That's how exhaustive our research is. And it's not just the conversations with those guys and the owners and all that. It's, you know, doing the work online and researching pedigrees and watching replays and making trip notes, which I do regularly anyway. So yeah, it's my mantra has always been Mike that you just over prepare. That's my comfort level. And it's paid off a couple of times. And we've had power failures. We've had, you know, all kinds of things where you have to empty everything that you have in your notebook, but at least it's there in case you need it. I'll follow up on that question with you, Randy, do you have a favorite Kentucky Derby that you have, well, either been part of or watched on television back in the early days before you got into the broadcasting side. Is there one that stands out most to you? One of my earliest memories of The Kentucky Derby on television was Reeva ridge in 1972 and then of course secretary in 73 and from that point on, you know, I was totally hooked. I was handicapping for a newspaper at the time. So that's why I was so into it. I would, I've covered every Derby except one since 1980. 1980 was my first one. And I would say that that probably is the most memorable, just because it's the first and through another weird set of circumstances. I wound up watching the race that year in 1980, genuine risk, sitting next to red Smith. And the press box, the Churchill. Who was an idol of mine, obviously, anybody who's in the newspaper business covering sports. Growing up, red Smith was your idol. So that was quite the experience for me. Larry and Louisville wants to know if Jerry Bailey pays for dinner when you guys go out..

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"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

06:02 min | 9 months ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Of Lexington steaks winter tawny port Arkansas Derby winner cyber knife and Japanese horse crown pride? Well, you know where I'm going with Tony park. That has to be a real easy self for me because I don't want to watch Dale's car every day at Saratoga. Tony port ran a nice race in Lexington. Give him that. And he is an improving horse. He's already shown that he was, he had shown he was good on synthetics. And now he showed he can handle the dirt. But you know, I look at the one race two back, I think it was the risen risen star, and he was no match for the top three there, episode or smile happy. 20 port finished mid pack 5th. It was never a factor. Could he be improving? Yeah, he could be improving. Can he improve so much to get all the way home in the run for the roses? I don't think so. I'm sure he'll, he's going to take some money for because he's a Brad Cox trained horse, but if you would like him you might get like 40 to one. But I don't like him, so I'm selling on him. You want me to do the other two, too? Yeah, go for it right now. And cyber knife, you know, that's another horse from Brad. Won the Arkansas Derby. I don't think it was the strongest Arkansas Derby that we've ever seen in our lifetimes. But he ran a career best race. Historically, you know, Arkansas Derby did produce American pharaoh. It also produced another Derby winner country house, even though he was d-q'd, super saver, won that race too. I don't think that the Arkansas Derby winner is going to be a winner in Louisville. You look at just historically some of the Arkansas Derby winners in the past few years that have gone on to Louisville, superstock was 15th. Magnum moon 19th creator 13th, classic empire ran okay four at danza was third. So to me, I'm selling him too, even though you're going to get you're going to get the Brad Cox factor there and a couple of months ago looked like he had no prospects for the Derby. Now he's got three. But I'm selling him. And I'm going to sell crown point too because, you know, I just can't get past the fact that coming from the UAE Derby and putting a monster effort at Churchill because it's never happened. It's never happened for a UAE Derby winner. Now, the fly in the ointment there is crown points of Japanese horse. And the Japanese horses have really made an impact lately in big day events. Look what they did at the Dubai publicly did the breeders cup last November. They wanted two races there. I mean, I think it's only a matter of time before a horse from Japan. Does something big in the U.S. Triple Crown, but I don't think it's going to be crown point, even though he's three for 41, the UAE by two and three quarter lengths, they got to show me one more time that they can do that. This horse has to show me again that he can, we're not our biggest stage because it hasn't happened yet. So I'm selling him to. All right, Dale, how about tawny port cyber knife and crown pride? Are you buying or selling? I'm selling the first two as much as I would like for about 24. And if he does happen to win, I would plan on buying a suburban before I get upstairs. I just don't think he's the quality need to have to win a Derby. I mean, believe me, I'd like to see him run big, but I don't think he's calling up now the Japanese horse. That might end up being much better the day. He's trained in wonderfully out there. Watching him every single day. I'm actually working a horse willing on Wednesday. They want some company. And so I want to help him out there and work a horse with him. He looked very good and the way they're dominating the world right now. I'm Japanese sources, you spend automatic throw out. Two breeders cups that one to Saudi Arabia four wins that Dubai World Cup. Better pay attention to them these days. But let me tell you a good sad bar story on him. He broke out of the gate yesterday. And came out of the gate took a complete left, dropped his rider and went running off the wrong way. Now, the outrider Lee lockwood cotting within a 16th of a mile since the source wins Kentucky Derby Lee should have sushi for life. Wow. The other thing. The other thing with crown pride is like they had incident Dale was talking about. It happened to the horse they had last year at the name of the horse. Now I won't even forgot about it. I forgot his name, but he was a chemical and did the same thing. Dumped his writer and he ran around the biblical racetrack for a while. But yeah, like Dale's right. I mean, and I think that again, they're eventually going to do something really big, but I'm not going to, I'm not, I'm not saying he's going to do it this year. They won't do it this year. All right. And Dale, you can buy a dump truck for all I care. Dan, let me suggest white walls too, while you're at it. All right, exactly. I got it covered. Might be a sprinter man. All right, here we go. Topic number three, this is really a significant day and a notable stretch of days as it pertains to Triple Crown winners because it was on this day in 1973, April 23rd that secretariat was flown to Churchill downs to prepare for his Kentucky Derby. We know what happened there..

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"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

02:12 min | 9 months ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"To the equine forum on HR N happy to have you with me. And a happy anniversary to the 1977 Triple Crown winner Seattle slew. Who, on this day, 45 years ago, rolled to victory in the wood memorial at aqueduct, his final start prior to sweeping that year's Triple Crown. So happy anniversary slew. This is also the anniversary of the day the big red secretariat. Shipped to Churchill downs to prepare for the Derby en route to his tour de force Triple Crown suite. I don't know if we see another Triple Crown winner this year, but I am sure that this year's Derby is going to be one of the best betting renewals of that race that we've seen in some time. It is a really well matched group of three year olds that will go to the post. There is no standout. Nobody has separated themselves from the rest of the field. Last week, I opened the show by asking you if you were buying or selling the Derby chances of messier and smile happy. This week, I'm going to ask that same question regarding last weekend's Lexington stakes winner Toni port, Arkansas Derby winner, cyber knife, and the Japanese bread. UAE Derby winner, crown pride. What do you think? Are you buying or selling each of those three horses? We know that Lexington steaks, horses, horses coming out of the Lexington stakes at keenland. Haven't had the greatest amount of success. But it's also a much smaller number than a lot of the other prep races. Tawny port looked good. Looked really good. The figures may be not quite what you would like to see. But look pretty good winning that race. Cyber knife in the Arkansas Derby, how strong was the field? People will question that. Maybe wasn't even best in that race, right? Lucas is Philly. We'll see her in the oaks. She may have been best if it.

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"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

05:18 min | 9 months ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Historically, you know, Arkansas Derby did produce American pharaoh. It also produced another Derby winner in country house, even though he was d-q'd, super saver, won that race too. I don't think that the Arkansas Derby winner is going to be a winner in Louisville. You look at just historically some of the Arkansas Derby winners in the past few years that have gone on to Louisville, superstock was 15th. Magnum moon 19th creator 13th classic empire ran okay four at danza was third. So to me, I'm selling him too, even though you're going to get you're going to get the Brad Cox factor there and a Brad has a couple of months ago. It looked like he had no prospects for the Derby. Now he's got three. But I'm selling him. And I'm going to sell crown point too because, you know, I just can't get past the fact that coming from the UAE Derby and putting a monster effort at church because it's never happened. It's never happened for a UAE Derby winner. Now, the fly in the ointment there is crown points of Japanese horse. And the Japanese horses have really made an impact lately in big day events. Look what they did at the Dubai publicly did the breeders cup last November. They wanted two races there. I mean, I think it's only a matter of time before a horse from Japan. Does something big in the U.S. Triple Crown? But I don't think it's going to be crown point, even though he's three for 41, the UAE by two and three quarter lengths. They got to show me one more time. They can do that. This horse has to show me again that he can, we're not our biggest stage because it hasn't happened yet. So I'm selling him to. All right, Dale, how about tawny port cyber knife and crown pride? Are you buying or selling? I'm selling the first two as much as I would like for 5 24. And if he does happen to win, I do need to I'm planning on buying a suburban before I get upstairs. I just don't think he's the quality need to have to win a Derby. I mean, believe me, I'd like to see him run big, but I don't think he's calling up now the Japanese horse. That might end up being much better today. He's trained in wonderfully out there. Watching him every single day. I'm actually working a horse with him on Wednesday. They want some company. And so I want to help him out there and work a horse with him. He looked very good and the way they're dominating the world right now. I'm Japanese sources, you spend automatic throw out. Two breeders cups that one to Saudi Arabia four wins that Dubai World Cup. Better pay attention to them these days. But let me take this sidebar story on him. He broke out of the gate yesterday. And came out of the gate took a complete left, dropped his rider and went running off the wrong way. Now, that router Lee lockwood caught him within a 16th of a mile. If this horse went to Kentucky Derby, leisha had sushi for life. Wow. The other thing. The other thing with crown pride is, you know, like they had incident Dale was talking about. It happened to the horse they had last year at the name of the horse. Now we're even forgot about it. I forgot his name, but he was a chemical and did the same thing. Dumped his writer and he ran around the biblical racetrack for a while. But yeah, like Dale's right. I mean, and I think that again, they're eventually going to do something really big, but I'm not going to, I'm not, I'm not saying he's going to do it this year. They won't do it this year. Okay. All right, so. And Dale, you can buy a dump truck for all I liked here. Dan, let me suggest white walls too while you're at it. All right, exactly. I got it covered. Might be a sprinter van. All right, here we go. Topic number three, this is really a significant day and a notable stretch of days as it pertains to Triple Crown winners because it was on this day in 1973, April 23rd that secretariat was flown to Churchill downs to prepare for his Kentucky Derby. We know what happened there. Also on this same day in 1977, eventual Triple Crown winner Seattle slew won the wood memorial in his final prep for the Derby and taking it one step further, guys. Tuesday will be the birthday of the first Triple Crown winner, sir Barton, who is full of April 26th, 1916 at Hamburg place in Lexington. So I'm going to ask you, Timmy I'll go to you first here. What are the chances that we see another Triple Crown winner this year? You know, every year you always, you always want to see a Triple Crown winner. I mean, that's what that's what people get jazzed up for in the sport. They want to see the chance for history. And then, you know, it was so long that we didn't have one before pharaoh came around, and then we got maybe a little spoiled when justified did it..

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"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

02:59 min | 10 months ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"That because even though it doesn't sound like rocket ship time, when you consider that white a barrio when the myelin and 8th in one 50 and change an hour later, one 43 and three sounds pretty good for Kathleen O and she certainly looks like she'll have no problem going the myelin and 8 distance in the Kentucky oaks. A major performance for Kathleen O because one thing about her was she had looked good so far, but she had never been too turned and she did it with just enormous power. It was like a fast race. I think it's going, I think she's going to be among the favorites. You know, she may not be the actual favorite, but she's going to be among the favorites that the Kentucky oaks. And she's going to have a big chance. You know, you're going to have some pace in there it appears with the Philly that won the fantasy being Geary being a speedball and secret and echo Zulu have its speed. So it looks like there's going to be some pace that she's going to set up well. Showed me gay. He said after race and he won the Kentucky oaks and it was way back in the 90s with disputes, but he said afterwards I thought subtly that maybe that long Churchill down stretch will be for her. So I think he was sort of bullish on her chances and you know, I like her chances for the oaks better per se than I like white up areas. You're right. You know, that race in the Florida Derby, part of the issue with that time was they just didn't finish very fast. No, they certainly did it, but Kathleen O did, and she was visually impressive was well, seems like she went from last to first in about a ten second span there and one going away and that was a mile and a 16th, so she gets even more ground to work with and as James mentioned, looks like plenty of speed on tap, but echo Zulu ujiri, even a dare manner is very fast early on. So we'll see how the track at Churchill downs plays it, you know, sometimes on those big days is a speed favoring track, not always, which obviously would not help her. But if it's a fair racetrack, there should be enough pace for her to put in her patented late run. We'll see if it's good enough. She's never faced a field like what she's going to see in the Kentucky oaks, but you can pretty much say that about everyone else who's going to be in that field. They've never faced that type of competition yet in their including echo Zulu who won the breeders cup juvenile Phillies last year. Let's not let's not forget. She only had to beat what was it 5 other Phillies that day in the breeders cup last year. So if you get a full field of 14 going a mile in an 8th, this is going to be the toughest test that any of these Phillies have seen thus far. We're going to take a break. When we come back, phone lines are open. Give us a call. Talk about whatever you'd like 888-966-4776. We're also going to look back at the other big three year old stakes from last weekend. The Arkansas Derby and the Jeff ruby. This is the brisket dot com call in show on HR.

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"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

01:45 min | 10 months ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Weekend stakes preview presented by naira betts Bobby Newman Jude fell that's Terry Wallace with the call of the 2004 Arkansas Derby agreed to event at that .1 by smarty Jones, and of course he did go on to win The Kentucky Derby that year and speaking of smarty Jones and Terry Wallace, let's head down to Oak Lawn park, where it's Arkansas Derby day tomorrow, Jude. They've got four big stakes on the card tomorrow, starting in race number 5. It's the $200,000 carousel, Phillies and mayor is going to sprint 6 furlongs at Oak Lawn, just a field of 6 going to post. And number two, Frank's rockette, who's never been worse than second in three career starts at Oak Lawn, is going to try to get back on the winning track. Yeah, that's where I went. I thought, you know, she kind of went off form towards the end of the year. She had a hard campaign and she wasn't running badly when they put her away for the winter, but she had a little time off, came back, ran a bang up second in a grade three stakes, the sugar swirl, is that what it's called. At Gulfstream and I think that race will set her up nicely for this, flavian prat takes over, you know, she's in a good spot. She drew the two hole in the 6 horse field. I think she'll be tough. She also gets the, you know, she gets Lasix back tomorrow, and I happen to think that she's a mayor that really runs better with Lasix than what how, not that she runs poorly without Lasix, but it seems to me speed figure why she's just got a little more oomph, so I don't know if I don't know if I'm onto something or not. It's just in my head. It seems to me like she's been better with the medication Lasix than without and she gets it tomorrow..

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"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

02:27 min | 10 months ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"I think, well, I mean, if things go bad, are they blamed for it? And if things go, you know, and if things go good, do people say, well, yeah, baffert this, that, whatever. I think it's a situation where that they have nothing to gain where it really just applies to messy AI because that's a horse that looks like he's a made sort of type horse that bad for would have a big time chance to win the Derby. You know, doppelganger has proven anything yet and black adder, you know, I don't think he's taken too seriously either. I think black adder is the type of horse that he could very well stay with Rudolph percept because one thing Bob Baffert is always winds up doing with these horses. The ones that aren't like the top of his barn, he ships them off to their trainers. So that might just be a horse. Whereas the Tim yakin horses, I would think that he definitely wants to get those back. Black adders, a horse that just might be, you know, he did a tough post on the outside. I don't think, you know, he could be up against its Saturday, but I think he'll stay in Brussels bar going forward. And anything he achieves for percent, you know, he'll get credit for that as well. All right, certainly interesting times in the world of racing right now. And these former baffert trainees making their first starts for the other trainer is coming up this Saturday and you mentioned messier. He's supposed to go a week from Saturday in the Santa Anita Derby. Good baffert Philly adair manor also in yak teens, Barnes supposed to go in the San Anita oak. So we shall see where these former or I guess quasi baffert trainees, a temporarily not in his barn, I guess. How they do on the road to the Kentucky oaks and The Kentucky Derby. All right, we're running right out of time, James, of the three races, the big Derby, perhaps the Arkansas Derby, the Florida Derby, and the Jeff ruby steaks. Which one do you think has the best chance of producing this year's Kentucky Derby winner? Boy, that's a tough one. I think I'm face value, the Florida Derby does, but I do think there's a little bit of this unknown in the Arkansas Derby where by everybody would be betting on the Florida Derby, and if I was getting odds and the Arkansas Derby, I'd take a chance on these horses like cyber knife, doppelganger, and secret oath like developing into.

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"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

05:36 min | 11 months ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"The horse racing radio network, big stopper with the call of the honey bee, the Philly secret oath, another dominating performance. It's one that earned her a spot in the Arkansas Derby, a chance to run against the boys and maybe punch her ticket to The Kentucky Derby if her connections decide to go that direction. It's exciting. It's a great time of year. The NCAA tournament isn't full swing. There are teams, long shots, lower seats, higher seats coming from all different regions of the country. They're all working toward the final four. I guess horse racing is kind of in the same position with horses emerging from different regions of the country. Of course, that one Arkansas would secret oath. You also have Florida. You have Louisiana. You have New York. You have California. Horses are emerging from everywhere and stars are emerging. And nobody knows that better than Marty McGee from the daily racing form. He is with me now, Dave grennan going to be with me at 9 o'clock to talk about the New York courses, but right now Marty will take a look at Florida, Arkansas, Louisiana. Marty, good morning. Good morning, Mike, how are you this morning? Doing very well, my friend, and I should mention too that this interview presented by our friends at jellyfish water. We'll get to secret oath. We'll get to Arkansas, but let's start with the race that you had a chance to attend last week. And that was the Tampa Bay Derby. Really, really impressive win down there for classic causeway. I thought it was Mike. And the fact that it came back in 85, excuse me, an 84 prior speed figure kind of through everybody for a loop, including the trainer of classic causeway Brian lynch. He said to his eyes, he thought visually he ran like a 110 buyers. So the way that classic causeway dominated the race was very much like the way he had done it four weeks beforehand when I was down there for the Sam Davis. And it's pretty clear that once classic caused what comes to the bluegrass of that will be the litmus test because it looks like smile happy and zan Don and some of the other major contenders for The Kentucky Derby are going to be in the bluegrass April 9th it came and be there, Mike. Yeah, I will definitely be there. I'm not going to miss that one. I have been a classic causeway fan for much of this year. I love the way that he won the CMF Davis and to kind of solidify that form with that win in the Tampa Bay Derby. I thought it was justification for the talent that this horse had showed even as a two year old. Urich Gulfstream park now, Marty, so you're getting a look at all the horses down there in Florida, all the Derby contenders is classic causeway, the best horse in Florida right now. Oh gosh. Well, I've been here since the day after Christmas and it's always interesting to per view the Derby evolution, so to speak, how they all kind of develop. You've got Todd pleasure up there at Palm Beach towns and del Rey, where he's got four or 5 legit contenders for the Derby. You've got Kenny mcpeek down here with, well, he had four of them to start with with dash attack and tis the bomb because the bomb of course went up to turfway. And we'll run into Jeff ruby on April 2nd, but his two legit intenders are rattle and roll. Who is going to wheel back 3D weeks from the march 5000 into the Louisiana Derby, which I found kind of interesting and wrote about earlier this week. And then smile happy Kenny is on the record as saying bluegrass or Florida Derby, Florida Derby's here on April 2nd and that's already mentioned in April dying at keenland. I think that he's leaning towards the bluegrass, so we've got the winner of the very roughly run and found of youth simplification who, by the way, worked through this morning for trainer and Tony will say no, who we all know from can have from 5 years killing the therapy. So he looks like he will be one of the favorites along with the end of time in the second with you. And also wide a barrio who skipped the youth after having won the holy bowl February 5th down here. So as always, Mike, as you mentioned, there's low C tie seeds and everything in between. We got all kinds of countries being heard from down here in Florida. So it sounds to me like classic causeway has work to do to be considered the best horse in Florida because there's a lot of good ones. Well, as you know, J preven and I do a Derby watch every week and this Friday we have smile happy as the second one favorite and then there's literally a handful of forces who are 8 or ten to one that's being classic causeway epicenter star and the likely favorite for the Derby forbidden kingdom who we all have our own somewhat skeptical as to what kind of distance he's going to be able to get he was an easy way of sampling today. Simplification is in that group and then zan donn, whose Chad brand it pays instead of running him back in the Florida Derby or the Louisiana Derby. He's waiting for the bluegrass with him. Yeah, you basically got to have dozen up right there together. I am on that Derby watch page as we speak and I'm going through the rankings as you're walking through each and every horse and it's a fantastic page. There's a lot of great information on there. All you have to do is go to dot com slash Derby watch or just search for Derby watch on the daily racing form, it'll take you right to that page. You mentioned epicenter and the likely favorite in the Arkansas Derby. Going to face off with the Philly, who is going to get a lot of attention,.

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"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

05:42 min | 11 months ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"At 11 a.m. eastern, you have the opportunity to go back and listen to this show and all of our programming at your leisure and you can do that on various platforms and on our website. Well, it is a rare weekend with not a single oaks or Derby points race on the calendar. As a matter of fact, this is the first time since January 15th that we have not had a Derby points race on the schedule. And after today, this is it. There are no more breaks. Horse racing joins the NCA basketball tournament with its version of March Madness as we dive into the 100 point prep races, which begin next Saturday. Those being the UAE Derby in Dubai and the Louisiana Derby at the fairgrounds, you also had the fairgrounds oaks for the ladies. Let's not forget about the ladies in the Kentucky oaks. That's a big one next week. The Arkansas Derby on April 2nd got some news this week, which was expected. Not certain that guaranteed, but it was expected. And the race was bolstered by the news that Hall of Fame trainer D Wayne Lucas is going to send his talented Philly secret oath up against the boys in that race. And I can not love that decision enough. What do you have to lose? If you're the connections of secret oath, she is currently at the top of the oaks points list. And as already accumulated enough points to get her into that field, so why not find out where she stacks up against the boys because she certainly looks like, well, there's no doubt that she is head and shoulders above the competition that she has faced so far on the Philly side. If she runs poorly in the Arkansas Derby, you can still go to the oaks where she's going to be among the top choices. An issue jumps up and she somehow wins the Arkansas Derby or finishes a close second. You now know that she belongs in the Derby conversation. And you then have options. You can go in either race. Because a first or second place finish in the Arkansas Derby gets her enough points to go to The Kentucky Derby. Remember, with the point system, even though she has, I believe it's 60 points or somewhere in that ballpark. Accumulated for the oaks, those were in Philly races. Those do not count toward points in The Kentucky Derby. If you're a Philly and you want to run in The Kentucky Derby, you have to earn your points against the boys in a Derby prep race, a road to the Derby prep race. So she's guaranteed a spot in the oaks. Why not take your shot against the boys and see if you do belong? And she has the pedigree. That says a mile and a quarter will not be an issue. She's a daughter of the late champion arrogate. Out of a quiet American mayor. Longer distances should be right in her Wheelhouse. Can not wait for that Arkansas Derby should be a great one coming up on April 2nd. But because we're getting a break in the points race action this weekend. It is the opportune time to discuss what we've seen so far and take a close look at which horses are proving to be contenders and which ones appear to be more pretenders. We've now ticked under 50 days to The Kentucky Derby. And in case you're wondering, 49 days, ten hours, 39 minutes and wait for it. 6 seconds away from the run for the roses. Saturday, may 7th at Churchill downs. So we're getting closer. So I love that decision in the Arkansas Derby. I love the fact that we're getting a little bit of a break this weekend. This is rare, but it's giving us a chance to step back and say, okay, where are we? With both the oaks and the Derby pictures. You know, coming into this season, there were horses that were in that top 5 top ten on the Derby list. And we said, okay, let's see if they progress into their three year old campaigns. Let's see if they can continue that momentum that they in the talent that they showed it too. And that points list looks totally different right now than what it did coming into the year. Now that we've seen some races, as a matter of fact, here you go, the top 5 horses in the point standings, you have classic causeway who just continues to click along. There are people that doubt classic causeway. I am not one of them. I am a fan. I love his pedigree. I love his style. I love his maturity. His tactical speed. And I love the fact that he took care of business in the Tampa Bay Derby. You have classic causeway at number one. Epicenter for Steve asimus and number two, uno Ho, the one eyed horse sitting in third, simplification and fourth forbidden kingdom and 5th. And if you were going to take one horse out of those 5 and say, okay, which one is more of a pretender than a contender, it has to be uno Ho. That massive upset in the risen star coming is.

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"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

05:41 min | 11 months ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

"Now with a 5 length advantage. Ujiri and ice orchid, this is another dominant performance for a budding superstar secret oath to win the honeybee. So secret oath victorious and you know what's funny, I was watching, I was listening for something in the call now granted, I always acknowledge way more attention to an answer than the average bear. But I was listening to see if Vick would say, here's a superstar or a future superstar 'cause I remember Tim telling us on his show that he'd only given out that label of future superstar a few times. One was in yada, one was shared belief. I don't think it was chrome. There was another horse, maybe beholder, I forget, but there was a third one where he bestowed that label and he was kind of right on all three accounts. So, you know, when I heard him say it, I go, all right, because look, was it visually impressive, yeah. I didn't feel like it was like some crazy, amazing performance, like down the line, just from a visual, like, you know, how does she look as she's doing it? But it's hard to dispute because she was opening up and waiting for fun. She got a 92 buyer speed figure. Very, very strong for a three year old Philly at this point in the year. And, you know, she's got to be on the path, right? Immediately, of course, because this is what horse racing does, you can't savor the moment, you got to talk about it. She going to the Arkansas Derby, a Kentucky Derby, or the, just the yolks, or whatever. You know, she obviously gets oaks points for the honey bee. And would it be a surprise if Dwayne took a shot in the Arkansas Derby for Kentucky Derby points? No. I could see him doing that. Especially considering, I mean, what we saw in the rebel was I mean, you know, she got a much bigger number than the rebel. 8 points higher, I think. And at least on a buyer scale. And so what will, I mean, unless somebody knew is rumored to come, which there will be, right? It's not going to be new Grange bar road in that same cast. But it could be a lot of the same cast in that race. And so I have a feeling that we'll see her in the Arkansas Derby, but I also don't care if they choose to just stay amongst the Phillies and point toward the Kentucky oaks. I think this year's Derby is obviously ripe for some storylines. We haven't there's not a ton of them out there right now. Some of the storyline, I mean the real storylines are kind of who's not coming, right? Or who can't come as of now. So yeah, I don't know. I don't really have strong feelings one way or another about it. I'm a big believer in just let the connections figure out what they want to do. And then we'll talk about it once they decide on it. But obviously an awesome win, and you had to kind of wait there and tap on the brakes. And a small field certainly helps with being able to do that. Luis Contreras, obviously, a very talented writer. Maybe not a complete household name yet. That was another thing Dwayne in the interview afterwards was talking about. You know, we were using a rider back in the day from Idaho named Gary Stevens. You might remember him and say yeah, we do. He was very good. And he was, I don't know that he was comparing Luis to Gary Stevens, but kind of using that same idea, you know, a smaller circuit guy, which is wood buying that small of a circuit. Not really. It's a pretty good, pretty good racing up there. So, but you know, I thought the coolest story of the weekend. In fact, I always do a Monday morning kind of Monday morning message we call it edge twin spires dot com a little written piece. You know, a little bit of a weekend recap, but kind of more of my favorite story of the weekend and I'm gonna write about secret oath and you know I was not around kind of for Dwayne's heyday, which I was alive, but I wasn't, you know, as a kid, the 80s part of his heyday, you know, when he was D wane off the plane, which continued into the 90s and stuff like, you know, I mostly just followed racing at long acres and The Kentucky Derby and I remember winning colors, but I wasn't, I would say, I wasn't attuned to the comings and goings of D Wayne Lucas. And then when law acres closed, I kind of got out of racing and just didn't follow it for about 11 years or so. From 93 to three, funny side was the year I kind of got back into it. And then smarty Jones was the year I got way back into it. And so, you know, that whole 1990s thing, like real quiet, all of that, and I know that's not D Wayne, but you know what I'm saying? I missed all of that. Grindstone. I've met grindstone, but I don't remember his Kentucky Derby win. So it's kind of cool to see, obviously, a well respected elder statesman of our game in Dwayne Lucas. I think 86 years old now. We talked with Nancy holz recently on the show about D Wayne and about this horse that he's got, who's very talented, obviously a theory of road is thrown himself into the Derby discussion. And so kind of cool to see a Dwayne at this age, having a couple of big runners in the barn. There was years where he used to have loads of them, not as much now, so. Anyways, we will, we will close out this show, and we will be back tomorrow. Going to join us tomorrow, talks parks racing, Darren Rogers is going to join us later on in the week, and you guys will hopefully join us each and every day this week. Monday through Thursday. For new episodes of the Jason beat horse racing podcast, you guys have a good Monday. Let's finish February well. Let's start march tomorrow well, and yeah, so I'm gonna enjoy kind of a quiet day today. I'm excited to have a little relaxed.

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"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

04:16 min | 1 year ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Change is that I'm not a 100% sure wind of change likes Gulf Stream as much as he likes some other tracks around the country, but his good races are good enough to give him a chance. And I would certainly use him on horizontal plays as well. Endorsed for both Dave and me in the grade three mister prospector race ten tomorrow at Gulfstream park goes about four 32. Eastern Time. Let's head up to Oak Lawn park, Hot Springs Arkansas, they're featured raised tomorrow, is the $150,000 point set of stakes. Three year olds, a mile and a 16th field of 7 to go to post. And the morning line favorite is this year's Arkansas Derby winner. Super stock. He's already raced twice at Oakland in his career. Obviously likes it there at Oakland. Since he won the Arkansas Derby, he's won the Alice park, Derby, and most recently won the Zia park Derby, Luis Contreras going to ride the Steve asthmas and trainee for the first time. I love this race with one big asterisk. I don't like super stuck and I don't like flash of mischief and they're gonna take a lot of the money, which means it sets up very nicely for a price of some sort. I'm just not sure which one I like. Super stock beat a field that he was supposed to beat in quite honestly didn't run that well in the Zia park Derby. The fig came up, pretty light. The Ellis park Derby, again, I don't think that was against the best competition of all time. I don't think that super stock has run an a race since the Arkansas Derby. And that was a long time ago. That was April. Flash of mischief is a horse that just went out and beat older horses last time. It was at Delta downs went off as a three to 5 favorite against a field of 6 competitors. I think both of those horses have the look of we can beat them here. But who can beat them? I'm a little bit interested in number three to feed her for Tom Amos $210,000 son of union rags, one last time out in a starter allowance race at Churchill downs two lifetime wins. I'm a little interested in ram on the extreme outside. I've just told myself I'm not betting on dewayne Lucas anymore because once upon a time, one of the great trainers, but has really struggled in recent years, big time work at the beginning of November. I like a couple of the recent races and now stretching out to a mile and a 16th, but I ended up with some of it for Mike maker because how many times over the last two or three years have we seen Mike maker horses step out of a spot that you went? Okay, that was a good win. Oh boy, now I can stake sources. I don't know. And then he wins at a price coming off and allowance win at Churchill downs. I think myopic has a chance for Robert Tino diodoro two. If I'm playing this race, I'm gonna play him all or maybe all but the favorites. Understood, and you and I have the same feeling as a as far as super stock goes, I think he's been a very fortunate horse in his wins. He's found big purses where either there's been almost no competition or the competition that was expected just simply didn't run at all that day. And he's a grade one winner and he's a multiple stakes winner and they made a lot of money was super stock over $1.1 million in his career. And to me, I'm just kind of shake my head and say, well, he's just been placed in the right spots. Maybe he's placed in the right spot again tomorrow. I'm going to try to beat him with number two defeater. Defeat are finished behind both super stock and flash of mischief in the grade three Oklahoma Derby and the blast part of September at Remington. And you really didn't have much of an excuse that day. I just don't think he ran his race, but he's come back with a good win at Churchill since then. I think there's more upside for defeater than a lot of the others in this. So I'm going to look for defeater to turn the tables on super stock and flaccid mischief and win the point set up race 9 tomorrow at Oak Lawn park. We're going to take a break. When we come back, we're going to head down to Tampa Bay downs and start the analysis from the big card at the fairgrounds. You're listening to the weekend stakes preview presented by nyra betts on the horse racing radio network..

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"arkansas derby" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

01:37 min | 1 year ago

"arkansas derby" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"We're back and our three at the racist. Marianne pollini is gonna join us and we'll get a little bit more about Oakland and The season and in general We haven't talked to mary the because hammers there and But i i still feel terrible because you know. Usually oakland season is very ripple. leany season. Mary a morte. Good morning steve. There's plenty of oakland for all of us right absolutely and there's plenty tomorrow. I mean this Granted this card. I know people the million dollar arkansas derby and it's been it's been you know if not the most important derby prep the for really the last little while it certainly been heavily influencing Infra heavily influential on the on the derby things kind of conspired against the race this year the way the weather Problems and the you know. The the incredible valentine's day cold and and snow it really wreak havoc and it feels like the the villain in making this race A little bit narrow in terms of participation got six six heads ago. And you know. I think concert tours presence Is a big part to. Maybe not everybody wanting to sign on for the arkansas derby. And like you said steve. The weather pattern here kind of disrupted a little bit of the flow.

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Kurt Becker's Stroll Through Racing History: Grindstone

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

04:59 min | 2 years ago

Kurt Becker's Stroll Through Racing History: Grindstone

"Only made six career starts but one of them resulted in a victory in the kentucky derby and burst onto the racing. Cd twenty five years ago this month with a win in the louisiana derby. His name was grindstone. A foal from the first crop of nineteen ninety kentucky derby winner dreidel rhinestones was owned and bred by lexington kentucky. Native william tian in the name of his overbrook farm center d wayne lukas grindstone raced twice as juvenile before undergoing surgery for a bone chip in a knee. But after a seven month layoff. He returned to the races with a runner-up relation allowance company at santa anita in february of nineteen ninety-six to start his three-year-old campaign. Despite having made just three career starts grindstone went to new orleans on march seventeen for the great three louisiana derby at a mile and a sixteen despite having nothing more than a maiden special weight victory to his name. Rhinestone was dispatched the two to one second choice behind local favorites arbs magic and it was arbs. Maverick stood and rhinestones way in the final furlong. Tony bentley had. The call takes me puts up. Magic hangs on the inside but it will be grindstone with the lead and sar magic. Grindstone when bill. Louisiana derby by war with terry daily with these victory that day grindstone was now part of discussions for the upcoming kentucky derby but he was lightly raced and no winner of the louisiana derby had won the kentucky. Derby splash gold. In nineteen twenty four grindstone stone would have one more prep race before heading to churchill downs. It would be the arkansas derby on april thirteen. It would be step up to a great two and a stretch out to a mile. An eight rhinestone would enter the starting gate as the eight to five favorite at once again. He would have to deal with the magic in the stretch. Terry wallace brings them home. Describe magic magic comes back. Takes at the magic of turn upset. Rhinestone was only eaten the neck that day but he would be heading to the kentucky derby with a lot of questions surrounding for one thing. Rhinestone had only made five career starts. No horse had won the kentucky. Derby on five starts or less since brokers tip in nineteen thirty-three for another. He wasn't even necessarily the best in these trainers d wayne. Lukas would be sending record. Five horses to the derby and lucas himself was reluctant to rank one above another. As for the rest of the lineup there was unbridled som- who would be the post time favorite. There was avenir from the west coast being trapped by a young trainer. By the name of bob baffert. There were skip away. Who had just set a stakes record in the bluegrass at keeneland. On the first saturday in may nineteen ninety-six. Rhinestone would have to overcome history. He would have to overcome highly talented and more experienced bows and he would have to make a furious. Run in the final furlong. But jockey jerry. Bailey had him in high gear. Dave johnson of abc sports with the goal of cracked late cabinet on the side of town. And here's optima to guide wasn't cabin on the inside was it baby. Mcquaid noted in the top urban grindstone and hit the wire together and it took five minutes for the placing judges to confirm the result of that photo. Finish but the winner of the one hundred twenty second run for the roses was grindstone. As one sports writer. Put it the kentucky. Derby distance is seventy nine thousand inches and by getting his nose in front of the wire grindstone had led only the final four but it was all that he needed five days later. Lucas announced that grindstone had been retired from racing. Following the discovery of another bone chip in the colts need may grindstone the first horse and seventy years to be retired immediately following win in the kentucky derby but he also has become the first horse in seventy two years to win both the louisiana derby and the kentucky derby he had won the first million dollar kentucky derby in history he had given lucas consecutive win and a triple crown race and he had made. Wt young kentucky derby winning owner and brief. I was never proud to stand next to mr young said lucas. Adding this is absolutely the happiest. I've ever been in my life. As a stallion grindstone would become the sire of belmont winter bird stone and the grand sire of classic winners mine that bird and summer bird following his stallion career in kentucky he would relocate to oregon and twenty ten where he would sire more stakes winners in the pacific northwest but the legacy of brian stone began twenty five years ago. This month with a win in the louisiana derby.

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Racing Without Gambling

In The Gate

09:42 min | 3 years ago

Racing Without Gambling

"I'm guessing you've heard of the Kentucky Derby Abi to this race that's run usually early in May we haven't yet talked about the Kentucky Derby this year but that's about to change as we're finally starting to get into rounds of prep races that will winnow the field down to twenty for the run for the roses on May the second so to help us do that. We bring in voice. We haven't heard on this show for too long and and that's Jonathan Listener who writes for horse racing nation. Welcome back Jonathan. So before we get into a few specific horses. WHO's impressed you the most so far on the triple triple crown trail? I think Dennis moment to start the list. Dentists moment strikes to lead right at the top of the stretch at Delta. Two lanes lead our three lately for the final final furlong. Dennis this moment with five length lead scabbard with clear sailing up the second but Dennis moment kicks off the road at the Kentucky Derby in a big way. He barely moved a muscle. That we we have it. RESTRAINING NATION DOT COM user generated Kentucky Derby contender rankings and despite his trouble that experience career dentist moment has not left that number. One spot. You talking about a grade three winner. Who was going to be the favourite the Breeders Cup Juvenile L. Stumbles out of the gate? You know he could be undefeated if you look back at his debut he lost his jockey was really no fault zone so he has the two losses and between between them. He's sandwich to really really nice. Looking victories including his debut at Ellis Park they won by like nineteen and a quarter lengths. I think it was so there's a lot of potential there and he's one that I feel like every once in a while you hear about a derby prospect before they make their debut and then we kind of latch onto them I wanna say it was probably roadster roadster last year because Baffert said he could be his next justify American Farrow and obviously it didn't work out there but they'll Romans has talked up Dennis's moment since before he he ran a race. And so we're we're kind of going to the same thing here As far as a couple of other runners eight rings also out of the Breeder's cup juvenile. He's a really interesting. One didn't really run his race. You know the last time we saw him but I think the way he's going to be handled this season. You have to keep paying attention trained by Bob Baffert. He's he's GonNa run him in the rebel at Oaklawn. And then the Arkansas Derby potentially there as well and then another one that you know kind of on the fence about that you know. He's got a lot of towns. Is Max `field scratched from the Breeders Cup Juvenile. He had a little bit of an issue. There it turns out we found out a couple of weeks after that that he had had a minor surgery for a bone chip. But he's not even in serious training now. Well he's he's he's apparently galloping No works yet and so I think they'll have to do the to A. Ah kind of schedule where you hope to get race out of them and then you have a more serious race which I would expect to be something like the blue grass stakes if everything works out well and he's undeniable town. I'm and I think he's GonNa win a major race somewhere down the road. I don't know if it's going to be the Kentucky Derby and then the other one I feel like it's gotten all the conversation is independence hall at at Independence Hall now makes his move. Independence Hall is the leader getting away to lead by two prints of Pharaohs has moved up on the outside. It's Bourbon Bay Independence All L. linked and a half as they come for the quarto prints of Pharaohs on the outside Bourbon Bay. It is independence hall with the lead and now a furlong to the finish Jose Ortiz showing them the whip now goes to work on independence hall. WHO has a three likely? Just a sixteen to the finish at. It's the constitution called Independence Hall. Tailwind Jerome by four Knights won the national stakes by open links came back and won the jerome. It was a little more workmanlike. But he's going to go. Oh into the new year here as another one of the favorites and if I could talk about one more that has sort of attracted my attention a little bit. It's this ancient warrior horse. I don't know what his path is going to look like. He's Jerry Hall android or for trainee. And if you follow racing at all the last year or so. You'll know that. He's SORTA become embattled. Dan from the strike. Group's tracks out in California But I of all these horses that have won maiden races and we'll be going to the stakes. I want to watch that one closely. He's moved him over to Oakland Park. We should see him in an allowance. Race coming up at the beginning of February and then from then on he should be on the Derby trail else. That's one that that I definitely want to see more of well. You mentioned Bob Baffert. And it's tough to talk about the Kentucky Derby Trail Without Bob Baffert and he has a lot more than the one you mentioned. There's thousand words who ran a big race in the low sal futurity. I'm a Roger Federer Fan but you have to give it up for an doll who is also ambassador trainee. Who looked really really good? So I mean you know Bob Baffert certainly knows how to get horses to the Derby mean how many of these prospects aspects of pan out. I see a path for all of them. To be honest. You know and we also have mentioned authentic. It's still authentic coming to the three the eight ball. He's been in control throughout leads by a length and a half to uncaptured hero. It's all authentic as they pass the quarter pole and turned for home authentic and complete Khaliq Command turning it on. He's in front by sex with a furlong left to go. Zimba Warrior and Assault Coast as authentic is putting on a show. Here is a little green gene shifting about but long gone authentic strolls home in the sham. He'll win by about eight lakes green. It's Grafton stretch and just kept going there and another extremely impressive Horse Nidal I. I wonder about him a little bit. You know we've only seen him one time on Sunday and that six and a half for a long race he he looks like Dortmund Ortmann if you go back to two thousand fifteen big horse. That wasn't extremely fast out of the gate but once he got into stride he went straight to the pace and never really let up there. Yeah it's not not really the kind of horse you want to win the Derby but I think you could get to the Derby and then thousand words certainly has every reason to move forward his last race. I think they had probably a little bit the too much blinker on him and he ended up going head to head with that no door that ran in the Breeders Cup juvenile second. I think it's SORTA legitimize both of those horses that they ran so closely in the future. But I think thousand words is probably at least a couple of lengths better then a no door. He just probably didn't see him in the stretch until Flavian Kinda guided him out and it's like Oh with the blinker. The horse realized he had something to run against a win on. So I guess when you talk about horses that I'm looking at in the new year. Thousand Words is definitely on that shortlist list to Jonathan Listener of racing. Nation is with us here on the gate. We've talked a little bit about the Breeders Cup juvenile which was a topsy turvy race. You had three big horses that we've mentioned into all had their problems that day. We haven't talked about the horse. Who Wanted Storm the court for trainer Peter Martin and that would be a very popular win in the racing business? As you know what chance do you give storm the court to back up what he did in the juvenile. Oh probably not much not a lot of black type in the family. I'm not sure if there's any black type from Stanley I'd agree wise. And then you know he was obviously the beneficiary of other horses stumbles in that race You Know He. He goes gate to wire was not really pressed a whole lot and at the same time. I think they took the blinker. They put their blinkers on. I'm sorry and I have not a fan of lemon. That put blinkers was on a horse at that point in their career. I feel like you should be taken them off so that they can relax. Prepare to go a little bit longer. I think that race and the circumstances just all all came together for storm the court and allowed him to upset that race. It's forty five to one. Whatever he ended up that day I'm sort of in agreement? I think with everybody else that the the the better Derby Derby prospect was no door and second in that race going forward. I want to mention because these races have just happened. Enforceable label for Mark Cassie. Who is not missed? A beat after a son norm went out on his own. He had been his father's chief assistant and enforceable. Really good winning the Lecomte. But we haven't seen too many Lecompte winners. Go on to run well in the Kentucky Derby. Where do you put me as a tap it colt out of a dixie union in marriage? The breeding is good. I put him a really high on my list. As far as forces will be in the Derby but I would not put him on my list of forces that I think can win the Derby and I say that because of his running style you know if we go back to almost every year that the point system has been effect and obviously gets rid of those pure your sprinters. It's the horses that can put themselves near the front at the beginning of the race and keep that pace up and never be caught by closers that tend to win the Derby enforceable enforceable is one of those closers. It's inevitable that he's GONNA run into traffic problem you know. I almost hope he sneaks into the Derby and everybody overlooks. Because I feel like he's the kind of horse could come into the super factor. That's probably going to be a really common line of thought. Though I mean I'm thinking a few months out but the soup perfect You know in the era of a favorites winning the Derby is as remain because it's pretty high minimum of really profitable wager for people nonetheless so yeah for me. He's a super effective player. I I I think he's GonNa be okay as the distance is longer obviously is a full brother Mohammed and a half years day. There's a lot there in the pedigree just really impressive on paper and it was good to see him run as well as he did you know He. He broke his maiden at nine furlongs last summer at Saratoga and it looks like okay. Here's a real two year old and I you know he ran into you. Go into a little bit shorter and the breeder security at keeneland and Max field because two things came together and got him beat but he's definitely better horse than he showed that day and it was good to see him back it up the trump

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Part 3: Jeff Siegel, Ed DeRosa, James Scully

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

13:44 min | 3 years ago

Part 3: Jeff Siegel, Ed DeRosa, James Scully

"Jeff Good Morning Good morning how you doing excellent and lots to digest. We've already talked to the J ribbon earlier this morning morning. I want to get your take on what went on about the racist we discussed last week including the the upset which I think is less shocking talking than people. The people are are feeling. It didn't seem upon further review that Mongolian groom was all that impossible well. He wants to me I mean I thought he'd run well but I I really I'd watch McKinsey working. I thought he was ready to roll. Oh and just looking at the form I thought that he would win and he he moved to the top of the stretch like he was going to pounce and then he kind of flat out and I I always had a little sense of doubt that maybe he wasn't quite amount of quarterhorse but this is only a mile and they and I was disappointed and I think Bob Baffert with two do I really was an he's made in announcement that he's going to replace my Smith with a writer that we don't know who's going to be. I'm sure all the the agents are kind of hanging around trying to throw their hat in the ring but yeah I mean I it was I mean it's it's just it's the nature of the game here. We've you see this happen a lot and perhaps the real the real important racist coming up a month from now but if you've you know food for thought as to whether or not the horse that we also at least I thought was the number one older horse in the country. is really that much better than everybody else and amount of quarter. I think it's anybody's game now fold in as well the the result at the Jockey Club Gold Cup and what did you think of the takedown and who do you favor of the two of them coming out west well. I'll tell you what that I I was kind of hoping that it didn't come down and even I thought the three year old is going to win the race going in and what am I ran well. I thought he I thought he had every chance to get by but it was a tough. It's tough to lose a race lightweight like way when push came to shove and unfortunately for her also did come to push he he hung in there I think both both of those are deserving the universal. I'd come already come out west a winner racer over the summer so we subtract and so they'll meet again it's I I. I was talking about this. The other day was Zoe on our podcast and we we were pretty much not baffled. I don't think that's the way but kind of open to in trying to figure out who might win the plastic doors so many possibilities now so many horses that look like they're capable title stepping up some of them that look good or maybe vulnerable so I duNNo. We'll be watching the next couple of three weeks to see who trains the best. Maybe maybe we can come up with a conclusion but right now now. It's really a mess we'll wait till they get the decisions. The final decisions horses like a late and late would add another wrinkle visit I think they're thinking mile and a quarter and the boys aren't that top much tougher for maybe the midnight DC would be if he ran against her again and and a mile an eighth in the in the the staff so that would that would certainly make an interesting well a couple of other thoughts jeff about last weekend the reasons we discussed filled D'Amato just a of magical a couple of days pee wee reese on Friday mirth and Cleopatra Strike in the Rodeo drive and the John Henry able to Geo Story. I keep coming back to it because what can you say and then Sunday Paradise Woods and I ask you the same question that I brought up up with Jay and I asked Sadler too Sadler Sheriff's the other day if she runs that race of the distaff she's she's a major major player and I know she's a notorious in and outer but I thought that was a terrific effort it was it was accomplished under under pristine conditions sitting right outside a speed horse with nobody all rounder nobody in front of her nobody beside her with kind of like a workout for but she did feel the deal as she finished strongly and she earned a beyer speed figure that was something like eight or nine points better than they were not that that means anything but bottom line is she ran really well now whether or not she can do that again I don't know if he pointed out not exactly your model of consistency and I thought maybe your best days were behind her but boy did she work well and I I I yeah I mean you have to go. You have to think that going into the dispatch. This definitely has a legitimate chance I mean if she decides to show up with a game the thing that we're going to start talking about Jeff when when when I'm at clockers corner and and we're watching horses work and when we analyzed the the XP TV workouts leading up to the race between you and Millie Ah Zoe is going to be fitness levels and the one thing you're not going to have to worry about John. The sheriff's Baffert and Sadler is is fitness of these horses on that racetrack and that's going to be a huge factor and I'm I'M GONNA keep referring to the east coast horses that went to del Elmar for the Pacific Classic and God drowned on that deep surface and Steve Asmussen asked me to his credit with with tenfold he learned his lesson and went out early with Mottola because he is not gonna get caught on that element he wants his horses. This is ready to travel over that surface and it's going to be something we we really focus on and then I'm sure in the recap you know after breeders Peter Scott. It's GONNA come up well down. Mars is eat but it's it's not it's not any deeper than in Santa Anita where this is not the old Santa Anita track backwards you know three quarters in eight and change all all day long I mean you have to be did fit to run on. This track is deep. You just tiring you you have to train over it. I think I think it really helps and yeah I think it's going to be very important to to to watch the works and I I do think it's going to be a great advantage for horses to get in early and get a beast of one or maybe even to work over the drag your possible because it's it's not it's it's tough. It's it's it. It's deeper than New York and Belmont Park is I'm convinced of that and I know Belmont to be called the fanny and all that but this track is is big heavy. I mean it's the faith it's safe and that's why they made it so deep but you've gotta get through it and you gotTa. That'd be fit well. Let's get set to look at the weekend and before we talk about Saturday any any day maker ideas for today well. You know it's yeah I mean I I did do a couple of San Anita and I can give the a little bit of an insight today's tough but I like the Philly name swirling in the fourth race she's not the favorite averaged five to two zero six two five in there she's a late running turf sprinter that that I that likes attending through force and they're starting to run five and a half now in the first we've got a couple now they extended the shootout there so she'd found five furlongs on this course a little stripe and she was hitting the boy and running well but just running out of room now she goes five and a half and I noticed in the few couple of five and a half long since we've had so far that the closers have a better chance and she's she's good enough to win. and I think that extra half for a long we'll give her the edge that she needs so I'm looking at number two swirling in the fourth race to kind of heightened me over for that's my play play today. It's an okay car not a great guard but I think we can we can get some value there because she's not going to be the favorite it's excellent all right swirling today and Let's let's go to the weekend and obviously the steak the steak side of things Let's talk about talk about the city of hope I because it it it really is intriguing and I brought up with Jay earlier. Jeff the mixing and matching of older horses. I mean really veteran in six seven eight year olds like synchrony and Ohio and Bolo and catapult facing off against some horses that may be emerging What's your angle in the studio? It's really hard. I handicap this this race and I came up with about four or five that on their best day could win. synchrony is intriguing to me I think he's intrinsically the best of the group but he doesn't have a lot of tactical speed and going a mile on this course even though he's running the tool aww theoretically he could maybe draft into the mid part of the mid packing and save the nangle out and get through he tends to give himself a lot to do and I remember when he came out here for the CBS del Mar last November. The same thing happened. Do that was sixteen. He fell back. He he had some traffic trouble he got. That's where we finished. Fuller Ronnie finished thirty one but but he didn't get there so I I like him at five to one at synchrony shipper I I hope he gets the trip. If he doesn't then you can make a case for a number of these. I mean looking for fifteen to one shot number four on your program. Aziz restrained vengeance. He's GonNa get loose in the lead and if he does that he can be dangerous. TAT upholds training really well but he's form doesn't look all that well you gotta go back to the Kilroy Mile Back in March the finding good but at least it was over this turf fourth and he could pop up Sadler. He's five to one the raises a bunch of the race basically is is a bunch. That's a five to one shots hoping for good luck but I think maybe if he gets through synchrony can win I wanted to I wanted to like River Boyne off the lay off and then John White made him four to one and that that cooled my ardor well you know I looked at him him and he was a very good three year old and he hasn't won at four and haven't made a lot of progress at least according to his numbers and he goes from practice and I'm looking elsewhere. Let's put it that way you know a to go back to an angle from last week as that in fact Jay also came up with and Dash the other filled D'Amato player and here's able to do who the things that just seem to be running for Jeff at at least from what we saw last week while they they ran for a golden gate when he was leading rider up there and I talked to them for a number of years actually we had horses up there and he he wrote for us always felt that he was good enough but he was kingpin up there era and then he decided to make the leap and I thought it might be tough for them but it really hasn't he's really falling favor with the with the horsemen down here and he's a strong writer but he's a good rider as far as and dishes concern. He's coming off a nice win. Del Mar.. He's obviously never beaten this this group although he did run second Mendelssohn and his racing debut of that matters which it doesn't that was way back in two thousand seventeen at the Curragh but but he's he's he's developing. He's he's coming around and the way the model is going. I mean I wouldn't put anything past him and especially in a race like this in which really there is no standout and anything can happen so hey why not wanting to watch a couple of other thoughts. what do you make of this chance Salat Omaha beach matchup the very very different set of three year olds against elders in the in the sprint championship wells twelve sheds lots four to five in the morning line because he's not only the fastest horse in the race in terms of numbers but he's also look controlling speed and he doesn't even have to go that fast my my concern was and it's kind of happened in the Jerkins a little bit then I know that the inside part of the wasn't particularly hit that day but they kinda slowdown down twenty three flat forty five and and he's fast horse and I think you gotta use his weapon and I think going three quarters. They don't have to worry too much about you. Know saving reading anything so I I would suspect he'll bust out there and go. He had a nice breeze over the track. I think Navarro did the right thing by bringing them out early and breezy had a half and forty. He's seven and one third fastest at sixty five last week and he lied did it. The right way looked like he was relaxed like he got over the track very very well so he's going to be it really hard for Omaha Beach the rundown although I my theory about Omaha beach is that he's always wanted to be a sprinter and because he was so good and all the money's going long long that Richard Mandella kept running them wrong and why wouldn't he won the rebel in the Arkansas Derby any may have even able to win the Kentucky Derby had come down with the trap Levada brought his only sprint race of his career only race of seven that he actually sprinted

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