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02/28: UCLA beats Arizona State, USC beats Arizona, which means .... five-bid Pac-12?

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02/28: UCLA beats Arizona State, USC beats Arizona, which means .... five-bid Pac-12?

"Gary Friday February Twenty eight two thousand twenty welcome back to the CBS Sports College Basketball podcast. Where we sometimes discussed Campbell fighting leaky black bat. Norlander WITH BEING THERE IS NO PLACE. This podcast start on this Friday. Other than inside reason Nelson Pavilion. You know because of work and travel. I sleep roughly three hours every Wednesday night so I'm tired every Thursday. I hate my life every Thursday but I still made it through the day. Put my little dude to bend. Stayed up late watching college basketball Thursday night and the game. The night undeniably happened inside historic Nelson Pavilion. It's the R. N. P. for Short First Place in the PAC twelve on the line Arizona state visit in. Ucla game was tight throughout came down to the final second scores tied at seventy two. Ucla Ball Tiger Campbell boss green from hymie hockey as Arizona state switches. So we end up with Tiger Campbell. I selected on. Do you know dead-leg do you know who got switched onto Tiger Campbell? I don't know I was barely awake for the end of it but I did. It wasn't tiger. Campbell was isolated on Mickey Mitchell. I discovered him a peach jam. July two thousand four and he's still in college so needless to say Tiger Campbell. He didn't want that. We picked back the Hami and hymie pulled it over the extended arm a forty seven year old Mickey Mitchell and he made it final score. Ucla SEVENTY-FIVE ARIZONA STATE. Seventy two so mick. Cronin's Bruins are eleven and five in a pack twelve tied for first in the league standings with Oregon with just two regular season games to play. You see you see la five five five deadline scallop one to pain-free leg movement. How why is it that UCLA team that started eight nine with losses to cal? State Fullerton and Hofstra is now ten and two and it's past twelve tied atop the PAC twelve statements. I Dunno you tell me I think it's scalable into pain-free leg movement. I think it's like it's completely pain-free leg movement. That's what I'm living with right now so I'm loving it and yes it's absolutely insane and UCLA. One again tied atop the standings trivia time okay. Let's go when's the last time? Ucla won the regular season in the PAC. Twelve don't dude been Jalen's final season and you know it so I figured I'd ask just talking to the president of the Ben Allen Fan Club. I I'm very aware of that. Trivia Time Trivia Time Bid Jalan. Ben Howland I power conference coach in the history of the sport to get fired immediately after winning an outright regular season title with no scandal attached to his program except for what. Jimmy's Nelson brought a trivia time last time. Ucla won the PAC twelve tournament championship. Yeah Alan no interestingly enough. Ucla's last regular season title was Ben Hollands. Last season in his last PAC twelve tournament title was Steve Alford's first season. That was two thousand fourteen. The bruins are now developing and a bubble resume. Here the win win a long way. They still got more to do. Seventy six in the net five and six and quad one five and one in Quad for thanks to CAL state fullerton loss. I did say it was cal. State Northridge at about one five in the morning. 'cause I got my cat states all twisted around there. What's the difference? Are we sure there's different? Let's not even go there with the cow state folks okay. Let's on your day. They were they were not John. Gas Away was on my ass though he was all over it like my favorite basketball reporter. Who in every article use the word? I've never heard that's correct but I will say my favorite cal state is man No it's UC UC. Santa Cruz. Right there the banana slugs hell. Yeah they need to be. They need to be in D one. Get SOME BANANA slugs ended. D One is that a is that fiction. What do you mean? Now that's an actual school. I know but isn't like John. Travolta awareness yes. I think you're correct about that. Yeah I think you're right. Yeah look at the poll. Look look you trying to get into the no context teaser. That's going to have to be in there all right but seriously Mick Cronin has done a wonderful job you know I spoke with the staff right on. Cbs Sports Classic. When I did very much a dead leg that was in the throes of dead late existence and at that point you know they're just trying to get through. I don't know what the season's going to be. Remember talking to one of the assistant saying like who's your best player and honestly at the time you know what he's you know. He told me I swear to God. At the time like a hawk was just developing and he still freshman was just developing player freshman on the roster and Lo and behold hawk has gets the big shot there and now they've won six in a row with three of those games on the road the Arizona on Saturday. That becomes an intriguing game not just for Ucla but Arizona unable to win at USC actually terrible now. Didn't have Josh Green. Didn't have Max Hazard because of personal reason but now the wildcats who aren't quite a lock yet. They've got a again. We've talked about a couple times. I got a bizarre resume. This a little bit urgency there with Arizona. Now it's got to go and try and win at Ucla after not getting done playing pretty poor game against USC. Ucla has a good opportunity here. A really if can get one more. We can do some real evaluation on this team and it's and it's resume and where it really stands overall like I four end to Dayton. Just on the outside looking in the lost at home not great. Lost A fullerton obviously terrible. The loss northridge obviously even worse. Who can argue that? And then they've got a you know a problematic road loss to Washington state but in doing so they get to the top of the League. Standings with Oregon Arizona State is now tied in the loss column. Still needs to get another win Arizona State of course as we mentioned the pod trying to get its first PAC twelve championship of any kind ever but credit to Mick Cronin man year one and they are playing at this stage. I mean it's a way better scenario than fans have thought and it's amazingly so much better than anyone could have expected as recently as a month ago. Dude it's more than Mick Cronin. I think expected a month ago. I mean this was know looking like a team. That just wasn't it looked like what happens. Sometimes when you hire a coach who is vastly different than the coach that recruited the the most significant part of the roster and. It's just butting heads can't connect and that that's what they were for a while. That's how you end up with the loss to Hofstra and the lost to cal state Fullerton and like you know blow out here blow out there when I saw him at the CBS sports cl-. I mean keep in mind. That's a bad North Carolina team. We now know. And and you know they lost by double digits to that team and now absolutely a role and I. I was texting with Mick Cronin late last night. And you know he was. He was like listen. I you know I talked to Jay Right. He said it's Said that one of the things I took from it is do. Don't change. Do what you do. Make you know what you've done. I'm paraphrasing here. This these are not exactly mixed words but basically what you've done is worked. Keep doing what you're doing and make those players change for you. You don't change for them. And he just stood strong and he remained consistent and now the he's getting the results it really. It's turning into one of the best stories in college basketball and I don't know if it'll end up in the instability tournament you know the selection committee value more heavily. The way you close like the last ten games thing. They don't do that anymore. And that might be the thing that actually keeps ucla out of the incident tournament because if we were just going to pick quote unquote the best teams to fill the at large places in the bracket right now. Ucla would be one of the best they just don't have one of the best resumes. Yeah they've been they've been on a tear. It's really the best rebounding team in the in the PAC. Twelve at least in league play at this point Number one offensive rebound rate per. Ken Palmer and The number one The number to steal rate So they've been they've been extremely good at crashing the boards and then and then turning you over. It's been it's been impressive. They are still just eighty fourth adjusted efficiency margin at Ken Thompson. They you know. In terms of predictive metrics there is expected to be in a regression to the mean here for Ucla. We'll see if that winds up happening or not but getting to eleven league wins is outstanding and I think I think Thursday night was a good night for the PAC. Twelve Oregon had no issues with Oregon State. Ucla GETS INTO A tie in the loss column with Arizona State so it upsets chances in Arizona state still comfortably in the field. So they're still good the only weird bad losses and I didn't see a second of this game but Colorado fell by fourteen at cal and I don't understand it even remotely but that was a bad l. But then you see USC beating Arizona was a positive result and then Stanford took care of business at home against Utah out to booth. Gosh they won their third straight did the cardinal to get to nine hundred nine. They're still obviously fighting to get in so on the whole pack. Twelve good job in terms of setting yourself up for the best possible bubble scenario heading into the weekend by the way I was willing to facetime you in the creepy darkness in my living room at about twelve fifty at night but from what I understand. You had a random twitter user who hooked up with what was going on there. He's not random he's he's at Seattle Mayor Nerd. He's actually he's a grizzlies fan. So like I bruce actually and he lives in Washington and But he's a grizzlies fan. I he tweets often. I recognize him when I when I saw his tweet and he was like listen. I'll periscope it for you so he groped the final few minutes of it because it's on the stupid PAC twelve network that you can't nobody gets I I well. You can't get it if you've got direct TV. I got a tweet from a guy that because we talked about this on the last podcast and I said listen my direct TV bills like legit. Three hundred dollars. I I have the network. It's insane and the Guy Somehow from our conversation. What he took from it was X. Did I tell you that both of us I think so he was like he was like? Gp It's your job to stay up and watch college basketball. I I can't believe I'm going to watch the game because it's on late at night. I'm like dude. How could you listen to what we talked about and reached the conclusion that I was saying? The game starts to late like I'm up late every night. What are you talking? Even when I don't WANNA BE WE'LL UTAH. I can't watch again because it's on the Super Pac twelve network people on twitter. GonNa be the death of me just I can't. I've been trying to tell you for years. You just can't get over. You can't stop yourself. So so my my bruce in Washington he He goes he tweets him. He's like I got a scoop of Ucla Arizona State. If you WANNA watch I click on it in his. Tv's really high up on a wall and he's like sitting in clearly demonstrated so I'm watching it from this weird angle. It's like sitting on the front row movie theater right up. Yes and we're the by the way. When you do these periscopes you can see how many viewers where you say one viewer. Was it just you or did some random stray like stolen there and start. I might have just been me. I don't I don't I hope there was like a second random view where they just stumbled across. It's like Oh why not. I'm just GonNa Watch Arizona State. Ucla on Seattle Mariners periscopes twelve fifty five at night. Why not that's what I did. I did get to watch the the end of the game and it was tremendous Pauley pavilion. Look great by the way. That's a famously. A place that is a historic place and yet you go to games there and there's nobody there you turn on games. There's nobody there looked great on on television from crowd perspective. Just a really nice night and after the game was over speaking of Twitter People. That are driving me crazy. I have to the game was over. I just tweeted Mick Cronin you know better than you know Mick Cronin Greater Than John. Wooden clearly joking around right now. You aren't clearly. I could make the argument if you want me to clearly just having fun with it right just having fun with the moment. I can't tell you how many people have tweeted me and are still within minutes ago. Tweeting me come on. Gp Are you one guys like. Are you high coach? Wooden won ten national championships. Do you know how much of a nerd you have to P to see somebody tweet Mick Cronin better than John Wooden and actually try to have an argument with them about it man. That's just oh I had a good one. I had a good one. Oh my gosh this is is to buried in my mentions but I so I linked in my power rankings Thursday. I embedded my screen-grabbed tweet from February. Eighth of the Selection Committee's top sixteen reveal basically saying this was the top sixteen nineteen days ago. All but two of these teams scancen Dayton have lost a game since. Then here's WHO's lost. What and so. And I had not re tweeted at reference back to that tweet or then some random Kentucky fan comes and finds me on twitter and go because Kentucky was not in that top sixteen and go. How big of an idiot do you have to be a Kentucky's a top ten team and you don't even have them as a top four seed right now? Do you think I'm in that photo? You think that I'm Dan Gavitt right now. Is You can't sell that. This is a screen. Grab of a television show. From nineteen days ago. It was again. Just let them roll off your shoulder get you gotta let it go. Cheapie people get so aggravated would be. When I'm constantly calling people dom constantly calling people stupid but like people really are dumb and stupid blows my mind and it's the work and it's the worst part of social media the absolute worse because in real life like if you take social media and just eliminate it in real life. I don't I don't deal with people that often. They're not a part of my life. Like I if I if I recognize you with somebody who is just an complete idiot. I'll just like I won't I? Don't you have no opportunity to speak to me? I won't I won't even get involved in yet. What social it gives dumb people access to your head twenty four hours a day and so just imagine if you were walking a think of it like this. You're out in public your restaurant in every two minutes dumpers walk got to walk up to you and say something really dumb to you. That's what twitter is. I'm aware of my man. You gotta I tweeted out a semi finalist list for defensive of the year in got ratio. Though it was my list is not my list. And shocker shocker. There are seventy four fan bases that one hundred thirteen of their guys on a top. Ten list shouts I understand Tashaun. Alexander legitimately snubs Xavier Tillman. I don't quite agree with that. If you want to say. Her Jones with one hand wants to be on the list I got. I got Cairo Lewis Junior Japan Quinn early and Jaden Shackelford in my mentions over her Jones. Not Being on the defensive player of the year semi finalist legitimately. Like what is going on here so I so I hear Ya. Gp I hear you do not realize coach. Wooden is the most decorated college coach of all time. That's what my mentor all night and into this morning people would wanting to actually argue with her John. Wooden is better than Mick Cronin. Sounds like you're trying to draw so far one into your mentions with tweets like that to me. I'm imagine imagine this. Imagine you're sitting. You go to dinner tonight. And you sitting there. And every forty five seconds the biggest edit on the planet comes up and says something idiotic to you. That's what twitter is for me. That's what my twitter mention Dr. Well say man when you tweet Mick Cronin better than John Wooden. You're just asking for it. I'll try tweeted. Beg At one guy. I was like listen. Can you give me an example? John would never win a game to go to first place in the PAC. Twelve on a three pointer. John would never do that. No NOPE NOPE. Nope I so so you sure you want to engage engage in this. Mick Cronin John. Wooden debate because I already to explain the amid Cronin just won a game on a three pointer. Job would never did that. Did you see people always want to talk about what John Wooden did? Oh you wouldn't do gyp yet okay. Let's talk about what John Wooden didn't do. Did He win a game on a three pointer ever? Did He do it Scheming Mickey Mitchell? Now though I mean Jesus Christ Mick. Cronin like trying to figure out how to win a game. Imagine imagine what John Wooden would imagine. Wouldn't have you regain looks up and you got Mickey Mitchell another side. You GotTa try to score Mickey Digital to win. The game. Never had to do it now. John would never have to do that. Even though Mickey Mitchell was playing basketball with John Wooden Goshi. A lot of people don't realize that Mickey Mitchell's freshman season was I think the First Year of Tony Thinks coaching career. What most people don't realize is that Bobby Hurley before coaching Mickey Mitchell actually played against Mickey Mitchell by the way. So we we gotta move on but I have to mention this because I think I think you saw it but I did like some guy. I tweeted at Sandia. Estate was undefeated and in a deadpan manner. And some guy goes I go man like I'm seeing it on the. Espn they law student. I got like three people sending screen. That's to me of the story and I was like listen. I don't know what to tell Ya. San Diego State is still undefeated. I can't help you if you think that. They've lost a Gamer. And so then you got the people in the gut like you've got like eight people who listen to podcast mentions and you got like three of the people that come in hard like they coming in hard with this one one of the one guy. Kansas Fan bless your heart man. I hope you find this podcast. And he goes. This dude has fifty three thousand followers and his verified to cover college basketball. And it's a gift of a guy going trash that's just beautiful so yes. We have had some fun on the tweet machine this week. It's weird that people have stopped since last week. In talking about San Diego States undefeated season because like it they still are probably on selection Sunday zero in the loss column in folks. We feel like we're the only one still talking. And we are tracking to a one-seat no doubt about it. I'm impressed and I think that they can get that perfect regular season once. They beat Nevada on the road on Saturday. It's a tough one but I can get it done. I think they'd get it done. And even if they don't they will yes. That's right right Maryland. What its last two buzzer beater just like UCLA? It happened Wednesday night. We're GONNA get into that next but I take this out. Hey it's chip Patterson from CBS. Sports if you're a die hard fan of college football then. You don't need me to remind you that this fort knows no off season in. Let's be honest if you're a die. Hard Fan of college football. I kind of expect you to already be subscribed to the cover three podcast. But don't worry if you missed out on the lock fights late night instant reactions and emergency podcasts. In two thousand nineteen. There's still room for you to join us. Results on the field in the fall or the product of pieces that were set in place in the winter. So don't miss out on the moves. News and headlines that will determine the twenty twenty national championship download and subscribe the cover. Three podcast on apple spotify and anywhere podcast found so Maryland was last game on the buzzer beater just like Ucla terrapins. Trailed by as many as seventeen points in the first half just like going to be one of them nights but they rally they doubt a two or three left they cut it to two with eighteen seconds left after. Minnesota missed the front end of a one and one at the other. End Daryl. More sale buried at three in the final seconds for the wind. Final Score Maryland. Seventy FOUR MINNESOTA SEVENTY-THREE INSIDE JAN gangly Hof Arena so now Maryland is twenty three and five overall thirteen and four in the big ten to game lead over three teams. They're going to win outright big ten championship norlander. They are probably going to do it and standalone if they can get it on this weekend preview that I'll be at that game We got some running inside Jan gingell arena. I'M GONNA I'm just GonNa Cruise on past that. No one knows Django player. No one knows what that is. No no one knows who that is. I don't know how long it took you to find that name. I don't even know what to do with that information by the way. This is a terrible beat had Minnesota. Because they were favored I think one and they lose at the buzzer practically at the Buzzer by three. I know Minnesota like two got fouled and didn't call at the end it's brutal but good on Maryland. But here's the deal. Okay I got a few things with the turps one. They have come back from fifteen plus down four times two teams in the league this season. It was Minnesota Michigan State Northwestern Illinois. I think they trailed by like eight with a minute. Twenty go against Indiana and still won that game. Maryland is a twenty three and five team that could easily be about twenty eight and nowhere near the two line. But that's not where we're at. They continue to to rack up the wins and all the losses as we said before at Penn State at Seton Hall at Iowa at Wisconsin. We'll get to buck in just a minute here. That looks better by the day and then at Ohio state which they which preceded this Minnesota win but but forget all that mark turgeon after the game after one of the most unlikely winds of his entire career chooses that moment to bitch about the tip. Time to bitch about the tip time as if this was something only afflicting program and it just started this year. This has been a thing a college basketball for more than twenty five years. Nine o'clock tip times okay. And it was eight o'clock local but nine o'clock body time for his intensive purposes now. I don't know who got to them but someone got to him quicker. He realized what he did. Because someone tweeted at me video afterward and it was within minutes where he maybe he realized it was on the big ten network. Maybe someone told him. Hey Mark Yeah you make more than two point five million and a lot of. That's because of games like this and the big ten network and all this all the money that goes into a health pay for your salary so he apologized and then because he wanted to be back in his driveway by four thirty and then that didn't even happen because they had issues with the Dushi that they had issues with the plane they were. They were there until like late. After late morning. Early afternoon on Thursday. I don't understand why more school I mean I do understand. It's it's because of code school right classes yes but more and more. Nba teams are staying the night rather than flying overnight. Now because there's just studies that show is just better for you. It's better for your body like it doesn't really like the argument would be we gotta get back and get her kids in classes if they really don't till four thirty in the morning. What good is going to class the next morning? Like what what are what are you doing? Let's not even maybe the next morning they might have two o'clock class or something so it's like if we can get back and then you can somehow if you can just hypothetically gp you can get in your bed by. Just call it five thirty. Which isn't great. I mean you sleep on the plane. You get played sleep. It's not tremendously effective. Obviously and then you can squeak off four four and a half hours and then you can be in class because again. They're you know they're not going to make special exceptions even more so than normal. I guess for these for these players. That's why but I definitely hear what you're saying. And they do have like especially at school Maryland where you have the infrastructure to support. All this from tutors to get stuff done I I hear you I. You know sometimes it might be as something as seemingly little but with when you add it up. It isn't if we're GONNA do this and we do it. Ten nights years opposed to to the hotel cost they add up and so we don't WanNa take that on like I think some of that is why a argue this that I'm in first off winter. Says you know we? We tipped a game at Minnesota. Nine o'clock eastern makes no sense. It does make sense for the exact reasons. You said that it makes sense for the big ten network. Big Ten schools. I think last year gotTA CHECK METEORITES. Check for fifty five million dollars each. That's that's how it makes sense because you you have network. You GotTa Have Games on you. Don't start them all at six o'clock you gotTa have a double header and so you know. Nah last night I think it was maybe Nebraska. Ohio state was playing in the same window. Or somebody what they did they did and I said okay. So Ohio State. Plays at Pinnacle Bank on Thursday night and his opening statement. This is a vital Matt hardesty. Who was covering the game he goes? It was great having a nine pm tip. We could get in here early and it was great having a nine. Pm Chris Holtman versus mark. Turgeon is the most unlikely rivalry of my life real quick. Gp and for listeners. That might not be aware this. They played earlier and turgeon called Caleb West and a bully Holtman took issue with. It brought it up again. I think at the next day's press conference circle back and said I respect her and all that stuff but it was completely inappropriate for him to say that then turgeon wins bitches about the tip time and then the next night inside Pinnacle Bank arena. Chris Holtman opens his press conference by saying it was great having a nine pm tip. Get these teams against each other in the big ten tournament. We need it. I had a circling back to the John. Wooden stuff at a guy tweet me last night. He said listen. It's not like John. Wooden never had to win it. Pinnacle Bank which is also true. Exactly true but it's also true just something to consider when we're discussing the Mick Cronin John Wooden legacies to circle back to where I was so it makes from a money perspective. You gotta clearly. It makes sense in charge knows that but in terms of like traveling all night long you know in the middle of the night like once we I understand. Well you know we gotta get the kid back in classes what you and this is sort of where church point what you decide that we're going to tip off games late at night and school can be secondary and that conferences are going to be realigned with no regard for geography. So you might really you know. I know Maryland was playing at Minnesota. But it could have been at Nebraska. It could've been anywhere like the geography doesn't matter anymore to these leagues like once more scrapping all of that stuff at the expense of actual student athletes and classwork. Then like let's stop pretending that the classes matter you go back to the hotel after the game in Minneapolis. Get a decent night's sleep wake up. We'll home if you can get to class great and if you can't who cares. We got fifty five million dollars coming from the victim. Meteorites deal yeah I hear what you're saying but those on the ground level working you know with the schools and universities are just not going to ever admit to that but I hear what I don't disagree with you but they're never gonna it's part of the basis of like the amateurism model and the student athlete model but I. I don't disagree but the point I used to make all the time when they do the twenty four hours a basketball like. Stop telling me. You care about academics. When you're tipping off a game three m right shouts to Hawaii. Yeah I hear Ya I hear Ya but some of what was saying was not incorrect. I get where the frustration is. But even Jeff Bowls. Who's now the coach at Ohio and was assistant for a long time under Thad Matta? He he had mentioned to me. He said the year that we went thirty. Two and three. It was the year that they lost to Kentucky in the tournament. I was actually. I was covering that regional for CBS and was when selling directly after lost. He said he was coming back to school next season. He actually did bowl said that they had one thousand nine hundred twenty of their thirty five games or whatever that season were all nine pm local tips or later so it was it just like no one outside of the teams living it notice or even care about that stuff can have an impact. Yes but the point is this has been happening forever and oh by the way it gets worse if you will next month and we're on the doorstep of Marcher win the tournament because of a function of how the TV windows work. You will have on those Thursday and Friday nights back to back Weekends Games. Tipping close to or after ten o'clock PM Eastern so. I mean this is march is when it really takes up a bit here and yeah. I just more than anything. I just found it. Bizarre that turns and chose to take that moment after a crazy win to kill Minnesota's at large hopes and say yeah nine pm tiff love it and I was just kind of it was. It was a bit weird and he of course immediately walked it back. Is it shows you how tight some of these coaches are like? You really just had an amazing moment like that shot probably ensures that you're GONNA BE OUTRIGHT BIG TEN CHAMPS. It'll be the first outright big ten regular season title for Maryland or conference title of ACC. Tim Doesn't matter since two thousand and two. It's an incredible moment and just pissed off because you 'cause you're getting started at nine o'clock eastern it. It was. It was funny. It was funny to me. It was doing it to have all the things to be at an an in your head at that moment being angry that he started at nine pm. Eastern is hilarious but whatever he walked it back and he walked back we should say walked back with a smile seemed to be laughing at himself a little bit and I thought I thought he handled it. I thought that's fine in the moment. It was weird after that he that he walked back shortly thereafter. Fine with me. Yeah yeah and but then the irony is like. He wants to be in his driveway by four thirty. Which wasn't going to happen no matter what it was way too late. That wasn't happening and then they can't even get to get out of Minneapolis for twelve years. The other dateable tip tip off at seven eastern. So what? You're still not back in your driveway till two thirty. I know well. Yeah I mean there is a difference between two thirty and four thirty although you may you may know better than anyone but that's pulling in four thirty. That's that's some rough stuff they're just just drag your ass on the house at four forty five in the morning. That's that's just terrible spot to be in yeah. I don't like being awake at four o'clock in the morning because I'm still up or because I just got up. I like I don't like seeing for you know what that's is four if you were to round it to the top of the hour four. Am is probably the worst hour of the day. That's that's like the most depressing like that's the hour. You don't want to be conscious ever you do now that. I think that that is exactly three. Am maybe you're on the tail end of a really good night? Maybe or you know it's it's it's it's a matchbox twenty song. I I must be lonely but four. Am you're in some trouble there? I don't I don't think there's anything good that can really happen for anybody at about four am yes like it's three a m. I I must be lonely. And then the it'd be like it's four. Am I must have a coke. Probably WanNA kill myself right. Yes it's four am. I must have a coke problem. Yeah like I used to have six. Am flight to New York. Every Monday morning and I would get up at four. Am and it was miserable. I just stopped doing it. It just decided. This is no way to spend my money morning. That's okay so I mentioned Maryland's got a two game lead in the big ten standings over three different. One of them is Michigan State. No surprise no one of them is Penn state surprise based off preseason expectations not based on what we've known for a while about Penn state and the thirteen that is tied for second in the big ten standings right now. Is Greg Guards? Wisconsin Badgers on a five game winning streak. I have inserted them into the top twenty five and one on Friday morning. Nice story you don't want cocaine quits. The team it's reasonable to assume the season might go the wrong way. They were already shaky. Anyway they're six to since he quit there on a five game winning streak headed into Sunday's game against Minnesota that is turned into a nice story to it is right now Wisconsin. We'll see if they continue to roll and they've got a good chance of doing it. They wouldn't be considered the dark horse to win the big ten tournament but in the here now Friday February twenty eighth. The badgers are your Your sleeper pick to go ahead and and And Take that big ten championship once again to bracket play here one five in a row. The remaining games home to Minnesota home to North Western so really chance to win both of those to get to thirteen and six in the league. And then there at Indiana. They can certainly pull that off. So Wisconsin has kind of a sneaky chance to take second in the League here and what they've been doing as of late has been ultra impressive. There are still three forty three and adjusted temple so they're still like The tempo the pace of the team is what you think. It is but they have been exceedingly efficient as of late the past five games. All of them wins Wisconsin as average seventy six points in those games. They can actually fill it up here. They have this is per. Wisconsin have had eighty plus points in back to back road games for the first time. Since many trivia time you want to toss a toss at what season was the last time. Wisconsin had eighty in back to back road. Winds Ben Howland final season. Not a bad guest but you are way off chefs to Michael Finley. Nineteen Ninety four ninety. Five was the last time. Wisconsin did that so Demetrios Aleem Ford Michael Potter all solid there on Thursday night. They've been playing very well. Wisconsin this season. See it's got really good. Wins over really good team? So if you're looking for a good value play for sweet sixteen. Maybe even if you want to get frisky and flirt with something elite a bucky is a pretty solid. Pick at this. Point has beaten Maryland Michigan Michigan State Marquette and has a sweep of Ohio state. Gt those are all teams that if they played their ceilings are going to be six or better potentially even five seeds or better on the whole and now they have five. Rank wins over over five. Hundred rank teams as Wisconsin. The only how about this. How about another tra- Trivia Trivia Time Trivia time okay only three teams have more than five wins against ranked opponents this season. Who are they? How Ben Allan Man? I wasn't even listening to you. I love it throwback. Okay I'll take more than five wins over ranked teams. Yes Okay Kansas. No no this is. This is per Wisconsin. That I got this is per Wisconsin Stat so Kansas and that's wrong blame Wisconsin but Kansas does not have more than five against ranked opponents. This season coach. I got a decline. Okay go ahead clearly. Wisconsin's one of them yet. They have five. Th there are three teams with more than five. Okay more than four Baylor correct. They have six and the two others also have six. The two others also have six When we just look at the top twenty five and one and I'll just pull some teams should be should be light work. Florida state. Now Seton Hall Seton Hall. No Give Care Iowa and Oregon Iowa Oregon's apparently all six. I didn't I'm just going off Wisconsin's were there. If a listener wants to fact check and tell me I'm wrong. Tell Wisconsin strong but yeah. They're doing they're doing mighty well for themselves and as you mentioned no Koby King. They've responded well to metric was awesome in this game and they they win. It see the reason why it was impressive. Was they win against a good opponent? Trice head twenty. Eight was overall with five or six from three point land in ten sixteen from the field. He was fantastic but Michigan per torok. Michigan had been playing the second best team in the month of February only behind Kansas. You go into the building you knock them off right. When I put Michigan into my power. Rankings a goes and does the damn thing so credit to Bucky. They are really playing extremely well as of late obviously comfortably in the instantly tournament at this point and our tracking to potentially at twenty one win regular season if they win the last three entering into the big ten tournament as I said at the top. They do have a chance here if they can. They can make things happen in Maryland. Beats Michigan State? On Saturday Wisconsin could actually angle on wind up being the two seat in the big ten tournament when it starts that. That'd be quite the turnout. Compared to where this school was five weeks ago Michigan. The records a little misleading. Because they entered last night's game Thursday night's game thirteen and four with Isaiah livers in the lineup. Just five and five without him and so that was a really good team playing really well and it speaks to the way that Wisconsin teams come together in the absence of Kobe. King that they were able to go into that building. You get that win. That's not an easy place to win when Michigan is operating with it's With Isaiah livers in the in the in the lineup. Because just a quick thought on Michigan Eighteen ten nine eight in the league. It is No liver has has definitely made an impact in some of these games. There's no doubt about it. And some of this has crossover but The win against Gonzaga's good win against Creighton earlier in the years. Good but is it's it's tacking up a lot of its losses against a lot of really good teams and a lot of its wins have come against teams that project outside of the top thirty thirty five of Ken Palm so I still think. Michigan's solid team. Don't get me wrong but I in light of the loss in the way it came. I I don't know what I quite make them. Overall they've got a game on. Cbs on Sunday at Ohio State. Which will which will be big for just big ten seatings and and all that stuff and if they can get another quality quad one level high quad one win. That will go a long way because Michigan staring right now. Two of its final. Three Ohio State and Maryland. Both on the road and then they got. They Got Pinnacle Bank in between that on Thursday march fifth. So it's just it's it's it's not an. It's not an enviable situation for Michigan. Right now just answer one question for me. Did John Wooden Ever Win Inside Pinnacle Bank? Yes or no. I can answer that easily for you. The answer is no and so when you take that into consideration. I don't even think. Sat Davis included that in his extremely impressive and long biography of wooden. But I think if you're going to find the words Pinnacle Bakery in that book. Gp Let's let our when we're talking about John Wooden and we're just GonNa Ignore Sam Gilbert and the fact that he didn't win inside Pinnacle Bank. We won't not on this podcast. Cast nope not on this when we get to the final four and one. Let's get to the final four and one and the records are okay me. Yeah I gotTA update you stop keeping track. I know you've stopped. You mentioned this every so I had a good week last week. You did not. I am forty two thirty seven and one on the season. You Are Thirty. Five forty four and one. What is your first game? Hold on where Pete. My record thirty five. What THIRTY FIVE FORTY. Four and one seven seven games back in the win column. Yes that would be correct. Also seven games back in the loss column. I need Kobi Kingdom. Quit my team so I'll get better to hit the nail on the head. That's exactly what you need. Id Kobe keen to quit my team. That's going to be the key to turn this thing around all right first. Game game number. One Saturday noon Eastern Number Sixteen Penn state at number Eighteen Iowa inside here we had woodbury arena all right okay. Well when I thought I usually something just POPs into my head going okay. Pin Stated Iowa. What what what pops into my head and nothing nothing popped into my head about Iowa and then the and then after I realized nothing's popping in my head I said didn't they have a duty to poke everybody in the eye of Woodbury good. I definitely thought you were going to like when you say Iowa. I think luke record so luke record. Maybe we'll go with Luke record. Adam would bear. Do you remember when he used to poke everybody in the I do. I do but I can't. I can't believe that they poke three players in the eye. And you're going to name a Dan Marino after him. Yes he he he. He poked three different players in the eyeball in a two week span. What we've learned here is a talk. Show hold on what we've learned here in light of Brandon Davies and Luke you like to name arenas after dudes I'd like to poke. That's what I've learned to. Can you name one player? That Adam Berry poked in the eye poke three do trivia time that I thank everybody was Allan. This was poking people's pupils. Oh Man I can't. I can't recall wonder Wisconsin player. I know that you're Wisconsin. Two of them are Oh did uh I WANNA Josh Gasser. But that's not it He's got Josh Gasser Energy. I Dunno give it to me. He he poked Nigel Hayes in the eye that I hope he poked Frank Kaminsky in the head. I don't remember either. And he also post poked. Mellow Trimble in the Mellow Trimble idea. Remember yes I thought that. What's the line on this game? I minus three. According Kim Palm you can watch it on the big ten network. What Times the tip? It's noon Eastern. So I'm just wondering if we'RE GONNA get Penn State winning and Pat Chambers having a problem with the tip pet chambers is like. I'm not going to be back in my bed until four. Pm It's been a big week for complaining about this time. Third Happen exactly. We'll wait at a whole deal too but we don't even go down that road it's been it's been quite a week for coaches complaining about scheduling I'll take one the spot and I like your beat three. Yeah I like that easily kick against Iowa inside Adam Woodbury arena. That's an ex- it's not crazy but in this spot. I understand why you wouldn't okay. Minus three is also my pick Saturday two thirty eastern number thirteen Seton Hall at Marquette Inside Travis Diener Forum Marquette minus three. You can watch it on Fox. Definitely love it Marquette minus three This is this would be marcus. Howard senior day you got Howard versus powder this is a wonderful game Seton Hall's seals got a tricky spot. Here coming up too. Because they got this. And then they got to play the two teams behind them in the big standings Nova and Creighton so the Big East actually has some good amount of drama on there Wants tough GP. I would say by the way. This is vanderbilt court just so we're clear court inside tranquilly it could be. It could be nothing but vander. Blue Court I am a I'll say Howard has a really nice senior day. Goes FOR THIRTY ONE. Seton Hall wins by six. So you're taking Seton Hall plus the points. No sorry what what are you doing like I. Here's what I did. I really say Seton Hall wins by six. That's no I met. Marquette wins by six so yeah no there Marquette's GonNa win on Howard Senior Day. They're going to have good. It'll be a good game but they're going to have a little bit of comfort down. The stretch can't pick against marquette inside Travis diener form on Marcus Howard's senior day so yeah I'll take marquette minus two three as well Saturday three forty five PM Eastern Number Fifteen Auburn at number eight Kentucky Inside Randolph Morris Arena. You can watch it on. Cbs. America's most watched network is the network stars Kentucky Minus Five. All right. I give Kentucky fans furnishing just Fletcher mentioned. There are so many good options. And you pick first of all. We already did this okay with this. This is already named like two two two weeks ago. We naming after more Randolph Morris. Yes raised Al Morris Morris Arena Kepi. He faxed he sent a fax to Tubby Smith telling me with entering the NBA draft. How is that that is funny? That is funny I I actually I worked at last night. Look at it. Look at what this thing says. It says dear coach Smith. It's a fax their coats man. First of all I would like to thank you and your staff for the many opportunities and benefits forwarded me this year however I would like to announce my intentions to test the waters and the two thousand five NBA draft. My intent is not to obtain an agent so as to maintain my collegiate eligibility that became like a big controversy because he was one of the few people these days folks just into the draft and going all the time but back did it was not a normal thing he entered the draft did not get picked and was able to go back to Kentucky and this facts that he's sit to Orlando Smith was Was was one of the pieces of evidence because it seemed to prove according to whoever needs to decide such things that he was just going to quote test the water so I think he ended up with a fourteen game suspension. Came back but anybody if you fax your if you sent a fax to your coach to tell him you're testing the waters in the NBA draft. That's you get an arena named. After far as I'm concerned well we did previously dubbed this. Tony delk arena. Just say no so. No no no no no no no no no no no clinic. Buki Court. I mean he's Buki is an all time name too so it's not. It's not it's rained. Off More Serena Tony Delk can get. He can get something else all right. Well we might as well. We'll have to figure that out. I got Kentucky easily though GP. I got them win by ten. They've been awesome menu quickly the SEC player of the year at this point. And he's overtaken his own damn teammate. Nick Richards and quickly have been amazing. This season on the whole. They've developed nicely. Credit coaching staff were doing that and quickly turned into like a top three or four. Three point shooter. The cows ever had a Kentucky. He's averaging nineteen point two points in his past. Seventeen Games Quickly been an absolute stud here and Yeah Kentucky's been a top five team across the past three or four weeks to get the game at home on Colona as a bouquet court. I Got Kentucky Big in Kentucky by double digits. I get Kentucky to win Auburn Cover. I'm taking Auburn. Plus the five points I believe in Isaac a coral. He's back Albert. Just a two loss team with Isaac Koro in the lineup now projected by our Buddy Jonathan. A top five pick in the two thousand twenty. Nba draft the best NBA. On the court. Inci Randolph Morris Arena on. Saturday will be the young man in Auburn uniform. Isaac or Koro Okay Scheme for gave four Saturday six PM Eastern number seven Duke at Virginia Inside Ralph Sampson Arena. I like it. I like Trivia time. Okay before we make the pig I need the line before the Trivia time. Okay let me look for some reason. I didn't write it down probably because I was arguing with people about Mick Cronin John Lewis last night The line is according to Kim Palm Duke minus four Duke minus four on the road inside Ralston arena right. What's the Trivia Time Trivia time only two players have ever been three time naismith college players of the year one is Ralph Sampson in eighty one. Eighty two and eighty three. Who was the other three times? Three Time Naismith college player of the year. Can I get? Can I get a cheat here? Well how long is the Naismith award been around? Do we know longtime all right. So I guess is Walton. Correct boom the seventy two. Seventy three seventy four. Give Me Cronin Bill and see what happens. You know people. Don't talk about that either. They don't feel well not in the same building last night. That's Mick Cronin either. Give give give John Wooden Yancey Gate give Mick Cronin. Bill Walton and see what happens. That's quite S- quite soccer prior probably a fight. What happened It's quite swap Probably a fistfight happens. Yeah Listen we're GONNA give We're going to give Tiger. Um The love here it's GonNa be tight around court. It's we gotta after a tied Jerome Still big for that and that's championship. You Know Kyle Guy Shots John Jay. Hunter you were good Kia Clark Momma Dean you still on the team. You're not eligible I Have Virginia straight up by the way straight up. Virginia GonNa win. They're getting five. This is an easy call but I got him to cover but yes I'll take who's straight up. It's Virginia minus its duke minus four nine five. You're just making up numbers you said five did not say five. You said five. I don't I think you said five Matt how you know what no. I think you're right. I think you said for I got but it is for four the record to be straight duke minus four. I'll take Duke. I'll take Duke on the road. The Blue Devils need the bounce back. Loosen too much. They've been losing a ton. Yeah I keep losing so much. That's the existential question. Okay they They are wanting to pass three games to double digit losses to unranked instate rivals. And yet still. Do you want to know another thing? That's in my mentioned nonstop people. Think the net rankings are rigged for Duke because Duke Lost Awake Wars and they? They didn't actually drop in ratings. All people were mad at me about the net rankings. Gp What's up with these stupid? Never I'm like I'm not in charge of the net rankings for crying out loud. I don't know why I didn't drop in the net rankings. At set for their efficiency numbers are still very very strong. There's only three teams right now in the country. Top fifteen in both offensive teachings efficiency one is Kansas San Diego state and one. Is The Duke Blue Devils? So you'RE GONNA Take Duke. I'll take UVA. I do like yeah. Listen cavs. They held Virginia Tech to eleven points in the first half earlier this week and then Virginia Tech scored like forty four in the second half so we'll see we'll see which version of the. Wa who show up. They are They've got some some breathing room here in terms against the NCAA tournament. There's no doubt about that six weeks ago but they played well overall All right so we got four down And I got to pick my my one here. I'M NOT GONNA pick Michigan State Maryland. That's actually not my game. I thought you were going to give me that game. But that's not my game because I got I got better dudes I got a name. Korten arena after here and we're going to attend a second but I will be in college park on Saturday. Four Michigan State at Maryland Maryland. Wins THAT GAME. As you mentioned it will be assured a regular season championship the first time since it got into the big ten for the first time in almost twenty years These teams played two weeks ago and Maryland had a crazy rally at Breslin and they came back and they were able to To get a huge win there. We'll see if Michigan state can right itself and get good victory. That's that's the big game. It's eight o'clock tip on on Saturday. I kind of think Florida's states on upset. Watch at Clemson. That's a two o'clock tip. Keep an eye on that. Love Me. Some knowles they looked awesome this week. But I kinda feel like that might be a thing we mentioned Arizona. Ucla that's a ten o'clock late tip so after Michigan State Marilyn's done Arizona. Ucla inside reason Nelson Pavilion is what you definitely want to be keyed in on sending chime in undefeated at Nevada and I wanNA stay at. Usc also takes on a certain urgency A lot of PAC twelve loved this podcast here. I think that's the majority of like big ones. I do Kinda sorta think that Villanova's going to get a push from Providence. Noon tip on Fox on Saturday. Keep an eye on that wraps up against Saint Mary's which was going to be my backup game. If you didn't pick my first game which I didn't think you were going to but will sideswipe. Saint Mary's at Gonzaga my game Sunday Jesus Christ I like to inform the people as they prep for a good weekend. Hoops here by the way I'll be in studio for. Cbs Sports HQ. On Sundays. I'll be taking the train back. Gps taking the taking the train loving it. Like James Bond. You know you know. I've never like all you guys always take trains like the DC and Philly wherever. I've never done that. The only train I've ever taken a memphis to New Orleans train and it took forty hours definitely did not take forty hours probably four. That seems legit eight. That's you you can drive to New Orleans quicker than you can get there by train at least when I did it and you did it when God was when my wife and I were still dating so twenty years ago. Twenty years since you've been on a train it's been twenty years since I've been on the train but you take a train like when you went to Europe. No we flew everywhere Man The train. That's that's really when you feel like you're in a born movie though like you're searching around you're seeing who's the undercover agent on this things that just me okay so it sounds like that's just yeah. Well you know what is all right so yeah I will be taking the train back Sunday morning up to Stanford Connecticut. Lbs Studio for pregame halftime postgame analysis of the bull. Cbs Games Savior Georgetown's too and then Michigan Ohio states at four. So keep it locked in there. the most watch. No that's right so the game I have though or his six o'clock tip on. Espn you got the Colorado Buffaloes. They're going to be playing inside. It can be no other Josh Children's Pavilion on. Don't even try and bring the slander against Josh childress right. Now don't even try on Brevin Knight Corporate Night. Probably one of my favorite players in the nineties and College Basketball Rib Brevin Knight Color analyst for Your Memphis Grizzlies. Boom look at the synergy. We got going on right now but not as a Memphis Ian did not realize that dig it Brevin Knight Court. Let them know when you can. Police inform Mr Night of what we've done in his honour here on this podcast. By the way the line is Stanford at home minus two against Colorado that's an important game for Stanford and it's turnament chances. I didn't take it I I offer the game. You take the pick take. I know my pick but and I won't change it no matter who it is but I want your pick I I I in Colorado. What are you doing lost two straight loss? The cow man. I mean shells to mark Fox. Sure but like can't do that. That's a good way to get addicted from the top twenty five one which is exactly what happened on Friday. Morning has it. Should've Yeah Stanford minus two here. I'M GONNA I'm gonNA take the buffaloes on the road so my buddy so the last time I pick Stanford they lost by forty seven thousand points to Kansas. I do think that's the last time we actually inject Stanford into this kind of segment here so I will also ride with Buffaloes that means that we have agreement on three Games Iowa against Penn State Marquette Against Seton Hall and then Colorado Against Stanford. We disagree on Virginia Duke. And we disagree on Kentucky Auburn. I'll change takes right now. That's not going to happen. That's not how this works. Got Buddy. I'm excited to see I've never covered a game there. Have you been there have you been? Have you covered a game in the finnity center shore? I've not been to the extent of the I've been there I went. I was there for I think Gravis Vasquez Senior Day. I think it was there for that. And then I went back there to do a story on terge. I remember that was like three season. Like two thousand fifteen or something like that. And then my wife and I went to a restaurant called minibar Jose Andres minibar. I was just Google unlike nice restaurants in DC. Because I went through this phase where I was just trying to everywhere I went. I was trying to nice restaurants. Like top one hundred restaurants in the world so it was like minibar top twenty restaurants in the country. I said okay cool. We'll go there. Guess what the bill was me and my wife. Just us Three hundred seventeen dollars. Twelve hundred dollars. That's absurd and how about you another that city attic? It was like a Google mini bar in DC. When you get a chance it's like twenty seven courses okay but but like a course might be a noodle a big flat noodle I mean one little noodle you sit at this bar and they make everything right in front of you. It only has like eight seats eight people in the whole restaurant at a time. Maybe ten but it's like a small number you're all sitting at a bar and they make these little plates for you and then you like God this they tell you exactly what it is and then you put one noodle one little bitty noodle imagine chicken noodle soup out of a can it's like one little noodle that's what you eat. It's a banana Michael. What can cost ten dollars? Yeah I know that's crazy so the noodle costs you like fifteen bucks. Yeah gas and probably more and so we we spent like it was over grant and we got back to our hotel and ordered pizza those ridiculous ridiculous dinner of my night but I've been to the xfinity center at least twice. I'm looking forward to To be in their hope we get a good game and I hope margins okay with the. Apm Time what time do you think you'll be back your driveway after the game? I'm not going to be back until Sunday night. I'M GONNA be. We're GONNA podcast late on Sunday because I'M GONNA be as hot after that. After that game I will be in the Courtyard MARRIOTT AT I. Don't know twelve fifteen or so but my own driveway. That's not happen until Sunday. Night my Matt do you. Would you like to about it right now? I have no intention on complaining about it. It's just part of the show the Devon down just Carolina Shelter Terry M. F. Legend. Please go subscribe the Island College Basketball Pockets via apple podcast rated favourably five stars with nice calm and it's an addition to the CBS games. This weekend remember we gotta quadruple header Saturday on. Cbs sports network one of the games seventeen. Byu At Pepperdine. Byu nationally ranked fifteen and two with only child in the lineup. 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Ray Anderson: Arizona State University Athletic Director

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Ray Anderson: Arizona State University Athletic Director

"On this episode of the playbook i have arizona state university athletic director ray anderson he may have graduated from harvard law school but he has whereas in knows the importance of radical humility and how to build a collaborative culture within a hyper competitive space not only through great facilities but even more important through people in teamwork join me through all of this and more on the playbook entrepreneurs the playbook each week. I bring you some some of the greatest athletes celebrities and entrepreneurs to talk about their personal and professional playbook to success in what made them champions on the appealed and in the boardroom. I'm your host and c._e._o. Of sports one marketing david meltzer dave meltzer c._e._o.'s sports marketing with with entrepreneurs the playbook and i have i shouldn't say an old friend but a dear friend ray anderson the athletic director of arizona arizona state university the sun devils and we're here right in the conference room ready discuss something that i'm most interested in is ray welcome to the playbook but i wanna know the playbook to become in appalachia director. Dave i tell you man <hes> <hes> i didn't invent it. That's for sure the typical route. Is you know through administration you start sometimes as intern turn you wake up through the ladder but kinda in the same department or certainly in the same <hes> flow path <hes> i wasn't that traditionalist league <hes> and so i ended up here <hes> through security of course most mostly through being an agent then being with team being at the league always spend been a lot of time on campus <hes> because we represented coaches and when you're a evaluating <hes> players you're scouting you're evaluating spent time on campus but never with the intent thought that i'd be an athletic director <hes> at all right but you know i always say to kids when they asked me how to be sports sports agent and said you had to develop the skills and gain the knowledge and have the desire because you know if you don't really want it somebody else really. Does you got that blue playing sports but you went to law school. Why did you go to law school. I went to law school because my my my father who passed away early had planned to be a lawyer as a young boy coming up <hes> through nine years old <hes> once he passed away that began came my focused i wanted to be a lawyer didn't didn't really understand what it meant but learned over time through teachers and others who who schooled me about that <hes> and so i went to law school <hes> with the thought that i'd be a lawyer you're not with the thought that i'd be sports agent <hes> or litigator <hes> or certainly not an athletic director <hes> but i went to law school because it was something something that was kind of ingrained in me as a young boy and you went to some significant schools. I was joking around the first time we interviewed years back. I said it's hard hard for me to give this interview because i've been rejected my favorite squander at stanford. I apologize to be here but they rejected me for undergrad in law school. Actually the thought had a chance for law school but then you out do yourself. <hes> going to stand for you go to harvard law school. I was fortunate <hes> and it all started really with the folks when you're in grade school and junior high and high school in my case <hes> had really taken an interest in me personally <hes> and so just weren't we're not gonna let me falter academically academically and always stressed that so <hes> fortunately i was able to get into stanford <hes> in in do well enough academically to actually apply admitted to harvard law school so i've been very lucky very fortunate. <hes> both great institutions and i'm really glad i went to both of what do you think the advantages you know. All my siblings went to harvard penn columbia. But what do you think the true advantages of graduating from harvard law school competitor like two lane it. Is it a long term effect. Or what do you think the number one advantage of going to school like harmony. Well no disrespect to to we all know the top the perception inception <hes> is that if you're able to go to school like that in graduate <hes> then <hes> people give you a significant benefit of the doubt apt to start to start with is just kind of ingrained in so <hes> you go into literally every situation with probably a competitive edge eh <hes> that is <hes> attached to graduating from a place like harvard or yale or princeton or stanford or <hes> or certainly a sister when you're there though because people have a higher expectation you've ever feel that because as as a boss i've hired kids from the ivy leagues and and i allow that same perception to happen and then i have higher expectations but yet there's still twenty four years old. I think somehow you know myron rolle. Remember meiring your favorite clients at rhodes scholar but i forgot i forgot that he's twenty one so although he's the first client i've ever had to say mr meltzer query and asked me questions that we're really deep. I still forgot that he's twenty one and i think you you know there is looking at my siblings who all went into the schools. They got great advantages the start but there's more pressure on them because people were like oh. That's the harvard kid. He's summa okay well. There are some expectations that go along with the privilege of going to a place like that <hes> and that's just part of the and you have to take take that on and so yes when i left harvard law school and i went to my firm initially <hes> law firm in atlanta georgia. I don't think there's any question that folks looked at me and said hey. That's the the harvard guy you expect a little more in terms of the quality of the work and even worse for us. You married a woman named buffy yeah so you go to stanford harvard law school where mary girl named buffy there. Your expectations are like who is this guy gets like preppy be privy to the to the hill exactly so that <hes> but no those are great opportunities to <hes> get higher education at places that <hes> very frankly people will give you <hes> like i say the benefit of the doubt they'll give you a little more <hes> leeway as a matter of fact but it also comes with expectations dictation. I'm glad i had the opportunity to deal with that. I i am as well. Now you go to law from litigator. What skills do you think you learned the most litigating that help you today as an eighty <hes> preparation <hes> in the <hes> the realization that there's just no substitute for just hard work work in preparation <hes> and so and <hes> a lawyer's role particularly litigator where discovery and research and preparation way saying advance of ever getting in front of arbitrator or panel or jury is absolutely the most important thing you do so <hes> that that translates really into everything. I did my business life but certainly here. <hes> preparation is is key. It's it's vital doing due diligence doing your research getting the appropriate rotate input getting ready and then when you make the case <hes> hopefully you're very prepare <hes> and you're more able to deal with surprises or curve balls etc etc so preparation is absolutely forms now on the administrative side like you said the traditional route is to build that administrative experience understand the culture of the institution and build your reputation within. There's a budgetary side sure that you don't really get get her back. I was litigator myself and you know the reason. I wanted to be illiterate. I didn't want to deal with those details. Afterwards right. I wanted sure other kids that do the research for me. I wanted to speak and how did you develop up those skills because budget huge businesses you for you well along the lines. You get a real appreciation for accounting and finance and law school. You take an accounting course you. You should <hes> part of what i did <hes> to advance my opportunity is at i actually studied financing at one point. I had a series twenty two. I think it was was a license from that. I got back in massachusetts underachiever by taking additional courses and financing in management and investments <hes> but the real trick is to know that you come into place <hes> and you know what you don't know <hes> which means you then look to your finance folks in your internal accountants. <hes> can you give those folks <hes> a lot of responsibility and a lot of runway <hes> to do it right. Keep you informed and then you delegate to people people with the appropriate expertise but never ever just completely delegating in saying you just do it. I'm not interested. I'm always interested in being being briefed <hes> and kept in the loop so when the final decisions are made i'm all over them but in terms of the expertise <hes> in the nuances of finances is an accounting and budget etc leave to the experts are part of my team and you do really great job including one of your latest hires right yet. You hired a friend someone that you had to work with at the n._f._l. Frank came came with ms our chief financial officer for sun devil athletics <hes> <hes> in my years at the n._f._l. Running football operations he was the finance budget leader for my unit for eight years so i certainly we went back to <hes> someone that i knew and trusted <hes> who could come in here and culturally we were seeing. He knew what my expectations were. He could come in here and and get up to speed very quickly on what goes on in a athletic <hes> budget in finance arena not very different very frankly and what goes on at the n._f._l. Pro level so you you go and get really good people around you then you delegate to them. Let them do their job and you know what you you got a chance to be in pretty good. How old were you when i look at you. I think of radical humility and it's something that i had do do my career in my thirties. When i retired tired in was an idiot and didn't humbly tell you right now. I wasn't radically humble so i wrote those two words on my nightstand and i said from today on i'm gonna wake up and pray to god for ten and people can help because that's the way that humility starts for you with all the pride agree harvard stanford in buffy all the pedigree you have you you know to understand which took me later on in life to understand that if i elevate others i elevate myself and lee had this great saying be kind to your future self and it seems to me from her to frank and others around you that you understood that much younger than i did. Where where did the humility come from mm-hmm who helped inspire you well first of all thank you for the compliment radical humility and <hes> album believer that <hes> you are at your best when when you have the best around you in terms of teammates and support group and if you have that you got a chance to be wildly successful because you're not just depending on and yourself you're depending on a team and i learned that early on in that started very frankly with my <hes> freshman high school coach guy named lloyd parks and <hes> who actually when we showed up as real cocky junior hockey to beat everybody and football baseball basketball we come into high school in our football coaches lloyd loyd parks and who is a marine who landed on iwo jima and survived that war and then ended up being coming back and being a meal military marine instruction officer so when we showed up there was lloyd parks all six two of them you know i shaved in grizzled <hes> and wiggins it was a very good example coaches paul wiggins we showed up and he made sure that across the board we understood. You're only as good as all of you. Are there are no stars it is about team and he really drove who've that in us and in me <hes> and i give coach parks and more credit than anybody in my life or driving home that you'd better be humble. <hes> and you better be appreciative of everyone around you because without them. You know what you will die. You will not be successful in that that that drove it it from then on. I was always about okay. What's my team. Look like <hes> everyone's gotta roll <hes> in success <hes> and that's kind of been my marching orders <hes> <hes> and that's why i very frankly i've had some success because it's about the team delegating not micromanaging <hes> and then giving everybody when when it is appropriate. Give everybody the risk but also give everybody the we're awards and what do you in that mary oxy. What do you instill empower to allow them to make decisions. We're not micro. Managers would values that you you know for me. I understand par people value so they can make their own decision. Based on the values is that we have as a collective. What values are the ones that you look at. When you're empowering your associates employees etc the thing we say about around here all the time david music culture is just not important culturally is everything <hes> so we <hes> <hes> we we we said in advance a culture of <hes> teamwork <hes> no selfishness <hes> think through unintended consequences for the good of the group not just for the self <hes> and then core values like you know what <hes> family really does come first <hes> and work life balance really is important <hes> and <hes> communication education and very honest genuine consistent communication is really critical to our way forward and those are really our core core values and we just tried to instill <hes> and then live those not just talking but living by example up and down our chain of command ed at one of the things i noticed different here. I'm blessed to have gone to tons of universities and blessed with friendships like yours but the one thing that stood out when i walk through this office was the one word i don't see often. I see integrity. I see commitment. I see consistency right. I see pursuit any wooden type of of of success s. triangle but very rarely do. I see straight out on the wall graduation because i like to me i went to occidental college because it's the only place to let me play football football but my mom loved it because when i was recruited by saying he goes eight and other places and they talked about their graduation rate with players and my mom went to occidental coach we'd off at at the time very winning coach league said she said well how many players graduate he said seventy percent and she said only seventy percent and he said no no. I'm sorry seventy percent go on to graduate school school. I'm sorry everyone graduates right. That's the feeling and energy expectation i get from. You and we're very proud of that because they are student. Student athletes student is first and foremost in <hes> through gene boy who runs our office of student athletics development <hes> and andrea laura alonzo jones down there. They've done a marvelous job. <hes> for years now before i came on board and in advancing the fact that graduation is first and foremost and then certainly in my time here we have stressed that time and time again that <hes> the academic pursuits here are first and foremost we want student athlete to accept that across all sports <hes> graduation is keeping because we're in the business development were in the leadership development business <hes> and if they're not graduating from here we have failed miserably so graduation and graduation rights in in <hes> a._p._r. Academic progress rates and reports for us are critically important to what we're doing so graduation is paramount otherwise we've let these young men and women down and we fail miserably and we shouldn't be right and i my favorite n._c._a. Commercial was the one that said two hundred thirty three thousand student athletes and only so many are going to be professional professional something else and you know part of that tribe and so so are you where you know that professionalism and powers and changes and has great social impact which is important to both which leads me to a question so many people you want to get involved in sports and i try to tell them. Sports is not a profession. It's an industry right so develop skills knowledge and find what you have a passion for for and it's okay to be profitable with that passion. What advice would you give someone that would like to get into college administrator letting director what skills you know. I'm not going to talk about where you go or weapon. Really what skills would you advise him to start developing at a younger age well they have to in my view be willing all in to be a utility player in don't limit your entry point. <hes> be willing literally to relocate <hes> to do whatever you're asked to do. You've got to get in the door because it's an industry where everybody wants to get in but everybody is not willing to do whatever takes in terms of developing skill set and getting started to get in <hes>. They want to narrow down their focus. I want to be an athletic director and a powerful school on the west coast. Is everybody else you know. You've got to be willing to go. Be a i hear administrator at a division three school up in delaware right. If that's what it takes so <hes> <hes> cast a wide net be willing to you essentially sacrifice <hes> some of the comforts of home if you will to get out there and really be able to demonstrate first of all your passion ashen and then your ability <hes> to think outside of the norm outside of the box is the cliche <hes> and be willing to do some different things a lot. The first time entry level folks. Maybe aren't willing to do right and when you don't your entry point it involves something called patients which the older we get the more we get the young we are. It's very difficult i. I'm going to steal that from you. I'll give you credit. That's i love. Don't limit your your point of entry entry point last question all the things things you have been able to achieve both personally with your family and here at the school in n._f._l. And even as a lawyer and agent <hes> what the legacy that you'd like to leave <hes> i you know legacy is a is a is a is a big word and sometimes the concept of it. <hes> is a little bit <hes> a shocking to me <hes> but what i would tell you that <hes> when i leave this earth i really would just like folks to think back and say you know what at guy made a difference th- that that guy made my life for some other folks lives at i'm aware of <hes> just a little bit better <hes>. He just made a difference because he cared. That's that's really what i'd like to leave <hes> in in <hes> when i when i leave from here david that they look pretty cool guy he kind of made a difference. That's all i look to do from what i've heard around. I think that's already happening so you're on the great. I love the fact that not only have you made a difference but you brought into this podcast. The one person that made a huge difference in your life was was your high school football coach. There's no question as we have the same feeling towards mine. Although you know our careers you've been these crazy appearing allow it. I say did anyone out there. That's an entrepreneur teacher mentor. You can change one life and end up you know somehow. Participating and extraordinary lives even though you may not feel what you're doing is extraordinary. It has an extraordinary impact on my <hes> coach parks and he went on a <hes> a what do they call it a reunion with his iwo jima emma colleagues who survived they went back to iwo jima. <hes> and this is years later. I still have a little <hes> sandwich sandwich bag of sand that he brought me back from the beach of iwojima. When he came back he sent me a <music> a bag of san with with a note <hes> reminding me <hes> of all the things we had <hes> done in the times we had spent talking together because he kind of took me on this kind of a surrogate son knowing my story <hes> and i still have it in my <hes> my safe deposit the box and i thought i was back home. Those little baggie of <hes> sand from you a team of from coach luis in a bag. That's awesome well. I really appreciate <music>. You're busy. All pac. Twelve oaks runs in my family but we're trying to make strides graduating kids. I think that's what's most important absolute so i appreciate our pleasure. Don't limit yourself. Be kind to your future self. I'm here with ray anderson. This is dave meltzer with entrepreneur nor the playbook by hope. You enjoyed this week's episode of the playbook as much as me on a personal note. I just wanted to thank everyone for making the playbook such a success. Don't forget get to continue it by sharing. 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848: Pre-Call Research Is a Waste - Chris Beall

Daily Sales Tips

03:33 min | Last month

848: Pre-Call Research Is a Waste - Chris Beall

"You're listening to the daily sales tips podcast. And i'm your house scott ingram. Today's tip comes from crispy the ceo of and sell for thirty years chris's lead software startups as a founder or developer. He believes the most powerful part of software systems are human beings and the value key is to let the computer do what it does well to free up human potential. Here he is. Here's a tip for anyone in sales at some point you gotta make cocoa. Maybe a bunch of them. And if you've got to do that and it doesn't matter if you're a sales development rapper and kind executive you probably going to do pre call research. Sixty one percent of all sales reps recently surveyed said. Yeah they do pre call research while stop him pre call research is a waste and it leads you astray. Why is it a waste. Because twenty two twenty three times on average. Your list may be a little riskier than that. But twenty two twenty three times. You're gonna end up navigating phone system or waiting for ringing if you're lucky enough to have cell phone numbers only and you're going to end up in voicemail and pre call research is not gonna make somebody return your voicemail. Call you back. It's just not going to happen. So secondly i once you've wasted all that time you've actually made yourself worse so say you do five minutes of pre call research for those twenty two calls that it's gonna take in order to get one conversation that's one hundred plus of research for one conversation plus all the time dialing so forth. You're probably two hours to get conversation. Then you've got update your crm so forth and so on and when you finally do get somebody your pre call. Research is gonna tempt you into trying to say something that catches their attention has to do with them that you found out from publicly available information and one. You're probably wrong about what they're interested in right now with. They're interested in right. Now is getting off the phone with their self image intact. So you're almost certainly wrong about that because that's not what you're gonna talk about and then secondly your guests when it's off by little it's off by a lot call me and say hey you went to arizona state university and i'm going to say well didn't you also went to the university of arizona and then you're confused so you're guesses are not going to be relevant to me. I'm not waiting for a salesperson to call me and nobody is in order to say something about you. Know our background or whatever what we looking for us for somebody to get us curious enough to want to actually take a meeting to invest a little bit of time to hear more so work just on curiosity. Curiosity has nothing to do with. That person has everything to do with what is interesting that they could be learning in a discovery meeting with you or a colleague that you're setting meetings for so make the pre call research go away. Replace it with curiosity based scripting that you get really really good at that. You really good at the tone. You're really good at the delivery and you sincerely believe in the potential value of the meetings of human being the you're talking with even if they never do business with you for more about chris connected sell and for a link to his market. Dominance guys podcast. Just click over to daily sales dot tips forward slash eight forty eight once. You've done that. Be sure to come back tomorrow for another great sales tip. Thanks for listening.

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Bringing Blockchain to the Education World with  Lev Gonick, the CIO of Arizona State University, and Adam Caplan, the SVP, Emerging Technology at Salesforce

IT Visionaries

47:11 min | 1 year ago

Bringing Blockchain to the Education World with Lev Gonick, the CIO of Arizona State University, and Adam Caplan, the SVP, Emerging Technology at Salesforce

"Blockchain is a technology that can change the way people work how supply chains run and has learned in this episode of it visionaries how students can take control of their education. We talked to love. Go Nick and Adam Kaplan the CEO of Arizona State University and the S&P of emerging technology at salesforce respectively about how the two organizations have joined together to bring blockchain into the world of education in enjoyed this episode. It visionaries is created by the team at Michigan Dot Org and brought to you by the salesforce salesforce customer three sixty platform. This episode is part of a special series on the sales customer three sixty platform the platform that powers the world's number one. CRM In this series executives from salesforce will discuss how using ten innovative technologies including a blockchain and automation can help you drive the digital transformation of every every experience and get you closer to your customers welcome to another episode of it visionaries. I mean vase on Chief. Content officer here at Michigan Dot Org and we have in remote locations spread all over the United States live. Adam what's going on. Hey ingrates inactive excited about this love. Thank you so much time excited to do this with you. Know likewise I'm guessing today I'm GonNa much happier place in terms of a beautiful weather than you are out of just thinking. Yeah that is probably too cold but sunny in Chicago so not too bad. We're GONNA get into a little bit about both of your backgrounds We're GONNA talk a bunch of blockchain and some really cool applications But before we get into any of that let's start with you you. How did you get interested in technology in the voice? I'll I came up actually interesting enough as a sort of old fashioned university professor And I ended up taking a A Sabbatical which is one of those privileges of being a university professor way back in the fall of nineteen ninety three and it turns out. I had a lot of time on my hands during that sabbatical which is what everybody thinks. Professors do namely just sort of sitting thing and that's all the fall of nineteen ninety three was when the Mosaic Browser got introduced the world and that changed my life And after the fall of nineteen ninety-three I never went back to being the old Professor I completely engaged with how the this new technology could actually transform the learning environment and as a lifelong educator That's the journey been on ever since and flash forward to today what what is the scope of responsibilities as CEO at Asu Asu Is the largest public university in the country. We have over one hundred twenty thousand students Including fifty thousand were learning online and we also have the distinction of being recognized as the most innovative university in the land by US News and World Report and my responsibilities basically are into responsibility for strategy and vision for Rit efforts right through all of the operational responsibilities security and working on next generation activities which were adamant I connected. Yeah and we're going to get into to some of the really cool innovations that you've worked on at Asu because There are some cutting edge stuff that you all have been working on at the university for for a long time So new in fact that many companies are not even trying Inn's little teaser Adam how did you get started in technology. Sure I really wanted to be an entrepreneur and and start a business so coming out of business school in Chicago. I was looking for opportunities to do so. And I ended up working for a chocolate company which actually is unreal? Well home. It was a great company is still a great company. I would remain in company for one summer consulting and then I came across sales forest. Chris and I saw the opportunity to start a consulting firm rounded help companies implement the technology successfully. That's really how I got in the Dick -nology game not surly for technology sake but I saw opportunity Arner with this very young very exciting technology company out West and then we were able to grow sales. I screw and obviously you got much steeper in psychology when when apple team out with the iphone that really transformed our company went all in and then we became sort of the mobile go-to for building cool business applications and I really launched our company and so fly forward to today what does the S.. Vp of emerging technologies salesforce to sure right now laser focused on blockchain. So I know obviously talk a lot about that today but but it's a big initiative for the company and really exciting and our customers are are you know really wanted me as an exciting things with it. So That's definitely my folks say is is is launching a blockchain product or salesforce. Yes so let's start into the journey of blockchain This is something that obviously you know. Everyone has been buzzing about four few years It's kind of coming into like the business case for the first time People we're trying to figure out how to do that. Why did you think that this was something that you wanted to do at? Asu well actually started with a problem statement which I I think? All the podcast listeners will probably relate to when you think about the role of universities in our our society I think over the hundreds of of years. We've kind of earned the trust that we are a ticket to opportunity to jobs to learning discovery and That idea of how to take our well earned trust quotient and figure out how to extend it further her and to scale it further. That trust element. Got Me To be thinking about how important it is to reduce the friction and the way the Education and workforce development ecosystem works. You know there are all products of like the nineteenth century way of organizing things and we've just been through the better part of one hundred years of evolution and we really haven't changed the way organizations work so it really for me start at around trust. It's also kind of Bien. Where where Adam and salesforce that I got to gather was really around the natural interest in leveraging our core brands around trust and as you relatively quickly we got to the white boarding the idea of how to take some of our really important business challenges that are out there in education and began schematically Working With Adam and the team on how we could use your her interest in the inner trust cloud for for for mutual interest. And I'll be happy to share some of those important use cases but it. It does start the idea that whatever. Our futures are in this country our competitiveness Our health and wellness decor of it really comes down to our lady to educate and not only educate the traditional university student but on a lifelong basis and that is Issues Ambition That's our commitment commitment and We found a partner in salesforce atoms. So when I came to I know you've known each other for a little bit but There was this something that you all were already thinking about already. Working on something you saw as a logical extension For someone like a issues already. salesforce customer Moore who already has done innovations in the past and is looking at ways to to develop trust and to to serve students better. Yeah absolutely that emission really came from our CEO. He sort of realized wait. A second salesforce is great at democratizing technology. Making technology easy to use and started gave our team the mission to go figure out. How can we help me make this successful for our customers? How many of them? Some leverage blockchain technologies but now without going signed on to the infrastructure layer having out. Get Man Line without having stand up huge. It teams so we started talking to customers and had the opportunity -tunities Mute Levin Asu. And they were just so innovative in the way they were thinking about future of education game about watching we found so many parallels in terms of how to work together and when it came down to I think and obviously none of this is easy but was hey can we strip away. Let's forget all the the the crazy technical terms around blockchain. Forget all the hype Tim we really find value for students universities and make it real and not just sit in sort of a it centric POC world of testing and sort of tinkering and actually ild something something real value for the world. And that's been really I think where we've had this great partnership with Lebanon's team Berry sort of equal minds on sort of those those topics in if I could just jump in to add that I think we also resonated because we're all very much aware that is important as organizations are there's more and more ability for individuals for the individual learner whether at school or at a workplace and constantly constantly needing to work on professional development that that we also need to find a technical solution to put the learner at the center and in some blaze take on a fairly provocative idea at least in higher education which was the dissenter. The Authority of the institution. It's it will remain hugely the important but to really begin to think about it. Technology solution that allows learners to have the autonomy to share with us at a university or with an employer or with a community organization or business the evidence of their learning. And if you think about it when you graduated from college what are the a university tell the world about you your major and maybe your GPA. And that's all and that is such a discounting of the entire journey of being at a university and we were trying to find an authentic way to use the trust that we'd earned the find a way to put learners at the center and I think that's the journey that we're on and I think that's in part what excites not only us here at. Asu and the higher education community but as we share the work. We're doing together with sales worth I think. It is immediately immediately possible for audiences. Broadly speaking to understand the value proposition of what we're really doing. which is transforming who owns learning at the answer to who owns learning is? It's actually the learner her or himself. Yeah I recently had by fiance go through a plane to PT School and she had gone to three community colleges and then went to Undergrad. You know kind of bouncing taking different classes down in Soco and wouldn't you know it. It came back that one of the one of the schools said that she had never taken whatever introduction to anatomy and the reason why was because one of the community colleges it was called foundations of anatomy and so the system. They had the technology that they were using. Didn't understand the difference between those two things even though there are an entry level class. Is this like the type of thing that you could use blockchain chain to verify what these type of schools are so that there's less confusion when you're doing things trying to show a classes you've taken the answers absolutely absolutely and and and your little anecdote here is unfortunately not an exception. Fifty percent of the courses that people try to transfer between we need to actually disappear they become invisible to the transferring institution across the nation. That is a huge waste of human human talent and treasury and a lot of it is because our systems. Don't talk to each other and we call this in our world articulation agreements. It may not surprise you that most of this is done with spreadsheets. In the old days I would have said with an abacus. I mean it's it's really really arcane and one of the things that we are very much working on at through the blockchain effort here is the facilitate inter organizational capacity to support successful learning and that means reducing the friction. And making sure that when Arizona State University is able to to reach a integrated articulation agreement with the Community College or another State University system others can take advantage of that and not have to reinvent all all of that work themselves. Because we're building a trust the learner network together and again all of that then is about the network effect and not just the point. The point of the institution. The Touche's dance transact. Yeah I mean I think that to the original point which was like. Let's work our way backwards from the problem and I think a lot of times you see see kind of people trying to figure out the technology before they kind of figure out the problem is like hey we're gonna use you know because we need to use it because it's a Buzzword origines blockchain because we don't want to get left behind But it really seems like this was something that was so crystal clear to you as a technologist but like a broader trend about like higher education in general. which is that every student is now you know they have multiple devices? They have all these technologies that they use personally and interconnection between all of these disparate. Organizations is a huge pain point for the person as they're graduating but it's not necessarily a pain point when they're going into school right. It's kind of like this post education thing. Do you kind of see that. Asu Continues Beyond graduation that you want it to be more or part of their life so that they can leverage all the things that they learned Kinda throughout their career absolutely in Asu. We've actually got a framing of that which we call the universal learner because we believe it's not only after college. It's also the experience before you get to university. That's hugely important. And and again we're working with a number of organizations I together including the girl scouts of America because they do badging And they're not the only was but you know they produce evidence of learning outcome and that shouldn't simply be something Hangs in the closet or in a photo You know our goal is to be able to find ways for those who are looking to build a portfolio of what learning takes place before one gets to university You know through high school you know to be able to create evidence of that and then of course into the workplace and of course it's not linear either it also means that Over one's sounds life One is constantly in a opportunity to continue to learn. We see that being another really important part of the of the goal of building. I'm not a lifelong learning framework. That is agile that supports you. Described it the reality that there is not one single a focus point for we're learning takes place It happens in lots of different ways and we have to find a trustworthy environment. That's verifiable and immutable that in fact when an organization indicates that the learning objective has been realized there's a way of actually creating a watermark experience the transfers transfers with the learner And that we can Through our trust relationship with that Educational Provider Organization Have confidence that in fact that is authentic antic work that has been produced it allows us to assess the enganed Miami. Just add one other little short point here you know in America Today Over thirty eight million people have. I started college but not finish. That's a huge issue again. How are we? Are we helping those people who started get back into Luke pathways to a college degree and beyond and again. I think it's part of the objective. Working together with salesforce is to help solve for that. Not only in terms of the programs but reducing the friction that allows people who when lives takes over not to have to forgo their dreams But the find a way AH help them accelerate the opportunities to come back to college. Yeah I mean so. We recently had on the Dash Lane Emmanuel. And we're talking about this idea that like password. Security is something that can come from the enterprise and trickled down because people don't necessarily have the the means to figure out how to you know do the type of password security on their own and at the end of the day. It's a threat for You you know for enterprise companies or any company and I kind of look like blockchain little same but similar but different where it's like everyone has access to the blockchain chain. But you don't necessarily know how you would do that And then as an enterprise you kind of have this situation where he had. This is buy versus build dilemma too. I WANNA build a team to support this Levin curious like when you were talking to Adam and you're saying like hey we're starting to we. We know that that we want to build a this system of trust we know what we know we want an immutable record. We know that we we know the blockchain is the answer to this. What was the process that you were going going through your mind to figure out? Do we do this whole thing in house. Do we find the right partner to do this. Like what were those or those kind of conversations like one one of the things that we learned A while ago sales for us is taking the complexity out of the DEV environment providing us Essentially essentially with a platform without needing to worry about the code That was that was essentially what I hoped the truth. I didn't know you know that Adam was leading work within salesforce before I posed the question. You know that we've been exploring today and you know we. We got to Adam because as it turns out that was work as you described it that was going on. CEO Level of the Organization for us it was you know. Can we find technology partner who will find underway to take the complexity out of the Developments part of the stack. And who can help think together with us on really hard problems like identity identity. You mentioned that just in the lead into this question identities complicated when you're actually traversing between personal identity and organizational identity in multiple organizational relationships and and no one has solved this one. But we're putting down that if anyone can help us think this reu you know it's going to be the organization like salesforce. which will you know has consistently stayed with standards and in many ways to help us at broadly in higher education? Use those standards unders to help solve some of these really nasty and import questions. And so Adam I I'd imagine that when you are working on all of this stuff behind the scenes and trying to come up with that clarity of use case that problem that you don't necessarily know exactly what it's going GonNa be. What what the company is GonNa come to you with or the organization is GONNA come to you with But you're working on you know on the platform and how you could do you know low code blockchain things like this like I'd imagine. This is just music. Deers like this is such a big problem. It's such an important problem at such a perfect problem for blockchain to solve I'm curious like was this something that as soon as you know lead brought it to you and you kind of just like the lights were on immediately. And you're like this is this is blockchain chain. You know this is our solution Potentially to be able to work in perfect harmony yeah that that's that's really point. Actually so we knew we could launch orange blockchain platform. We go to our customers and say customers choose blockchain technology. It's easy to use consuming as you'd like to consume that. But you know there was so much hype bike. We were talking about. Companies don't know what to do with it so it's like you say it's about finding the real use case and it's about finding customers who aren't just doing something for a press release. I literally spoke to. I would say over one hundred customers and other customers as we were sort of deciding what to build and how to build this many of them they were they were in that mode of. Hey we just want some amazing press around this and then when we found love and Asu and started talking about this a real initia- real business impact is not about a press release. This is about really changing the feature of any education I was like wow and that's where you know that's where we believe. salesforce has to be yes. We have if antastic watching platform and yes customer news. How you'd like to use it but like you said it's finding meaning those use cases those whether it's by industry whether it's by vertical whether whatever it might be but something very specific that customers customers can get their arms around and run with and understand how this can benefit their organization that that issues? And that's what we really been working so credentialing even broader. You're it we think about it in other places also really valuable so we'll work with issue. That's been amazing. Any of you extend that to other industries are also parallels we've seen some interest even as an example for a nonprofit organization once someone goes through. Let's say a big granting organization that's going to give a nonprofit a lot of money and and they go through and they say hey you know validated this is a fantastic profit. The dollars actually end up where they should end up their honorable. They're doing fantastic. Work is worthy of your time of your dollars when someone goes through invalidates might not make that almost like a credential publicly available so others don't have to go through that the same process we also see it applying to other than other industries so it's a really powerful you stays in a seo has taken the lead and run with this in an amazing a badge note the rollout of customer three sixty platform The idea of viewing your customer with that three three hundred sixty degree view. I feel like blockchain is the perfect kind of You know piece of this that like I feel like we all you know feel like we know our customers pretty well and you know. They're when they're using our technology or whatever it is her buying our products and we have a pretty good idea but something like botching the fact that it is immutable the fact that it it brings in a layer trust. It really feels like you know to me in this topic topic of identity that we've touched on a little bit that with with blockchain. Were now going to have much more power as as technology leaders as CEOS house to really see. What's going on to see both your own internal employees in your customers? I'm curious in those conversations Adam as you're talking to other. CEO's as you're we're talking to technology leaders. I know that there's a lot of excitement around blockchain and kind of a lot of confusion What are some of those other kind of hesitancy to use it? What are some of the reasons that people are kind of You know not really seeing the value here when it kind of seems like we. We all know that you know ten years from down the line. It's going to be important. But maybe they say hey over the next three years blockchain's not gonna be a priority because we're just gonNA kick the CAN. Yeah sure so. Bill where we're really investing in seeing opportunity in demand from our customers in permission blockchain will we mean by that is it's not completely publicly available not anyone can just access the blockchain Siada dated because when we're talking about the enterprise company data is critical. So that's where there were playing so it's not an open it. therion is a network of companies that were enabling to come together and share information between them or like ASPCA share information between institutions. Also extend that be to see to the end customer to the student which we love your point about customer three sixty were all about enabling you you company institution to get closer to your end customers and so that network effect we feel is really really powerful so one of the big hesitancy to companies in his willingness to participate network with their suppliers vendors and customers partners is sort of they fear asserted. This data will be out there in the wild and so we say hey. Wait a SEC. No no we actually can control who has access to the data and this is one of the really innovative thank salesforce as working working on which is is not just private in this network of companies but it can be opened up this data that data this object that object it can be opened up permanently late to an individual to another company it can be opened up just for a certain amount of time and so that is really powerful and that that gets say sort of relax lacks okay okay okay. Data secure passed it and can only be shared where we wanted to share. I think that's a big thing that sort of you know getting people to to slow roll roll adoption. I think the second thing is incentives so watching is not just about the technology. Let's say we saw the technology and we still have all these challenges of like like you and we're talking about identity and some of the really complex things anytime you're building. Networks and companies are coming together. This is not natural competitors working together the other suppliers and benders working together and it sort of an equal relationship not one dominant sort of dictating however also play into network. So you get to things that are non technical uncall- so you get to governance. WHO has a right to add other network so if at eleven Arizona State or when a partner with other institutions who says Oh that the other university yeah let's let them network or that other up is going to you know have course gonNA consume some of this education? Let's let them into the network so you could say it's all all open but the governance around adding that additional company or security rules or even in a network where there's payments happening between parties. WHO GETS paid eight? How do they get paid to play? Who pays the blockchain who pays for this network that all gets really complicated? And it's non technical helping companies with those things also really really important and also slows adoption because companies have to come together. Really think about this stuff. Do you feel like Your peers and other. CEO's does technology leaders are have some reservations about this and might And might be on the fence about about using blockchain and like why that might be you know an education You know our community of CIO's Are you know as a breed of surely curious about Oh to new technologies and I think you know as a community of practice drawn to education because it's a it wonderful opportunity privilege in many ways to to try and even to fail without the consequences that are important to CEO's in a corporate setting I workout. You're can come at a significant price. Personal ad the organizational and so again I think as I've been sharing the work that we're doing and and actually just a couple of weeks ago we were in Chicago. I the big higher education gathering. And you know we had a standing room only audience. There was a huge huge amount of interest in actually tackling questions like many. Did Adam actually just outlined related to governance and distracts me that I you know. It's such a more interesting problem to solve for and figuring out how to use blockchain supply chain. I'm not saying that's not important. There's not a lot of money to be had there. But the the problem Problem of figuring out how to build out a trusted learner network that involves and supports the privacy that we know You know students have an untitled into rights you under federal law figuring out how they give permission to which organization other individuals for objects in their learning portfolio. How we actually at facilitate overall learner's success rather than barriers to transfer as we talked about earlier in time together other those are things that CIO's and higher education seems to be really interested in and we've made a commitment that here it is to actually get a whole bunch of us together and I don't mean and just the is but also the Department of Education and some important fellow travelers in the corporate world and we of course that includes salesforce to come together to start? Aren't really working on on the network piece of it. Now that we have a series of proof points some of which now we're actually moving into production as soon as general availability or or. The cloud is made known to the public and my favorite my favorite military military commander General Availability Service. It's joke Yeah I you know we. We've actually had an episode on On blockchain for for supply chain and It's quite literally in the name. It's a chain. So what's funny I think is. We've gotten so good at supply chain in and now it's like you know. Obviously it's the next it's A. It's an obvious use case. It's it's the next step for for supply chain to be able to track skews across different from companies and all that stuff is fascinating episode But I'd agree with you that you take something like education where it's so critical and so obvious and to the to the student. They are just perplexed. Like I can tell you you know from the first hand experience of my fiance taking you know whatever testing out of English in high school and then having a PT school be like hey you never took English in college and it's it's like how could you not know that you're like isn't this all connected like how would you not know that those individual things that happened to the student. It's your life and it prevents prevents you from doing from point at Grad School from getting a job from showing a certification It prevents all sorts of things from happening quite literally early due to a technical error. You know these are a lot of times human beings you know that are sitting in front of a computer trying to amazing work. That don't know that you know. Introduction to psychology is the same as foundations of psychology I'm curious love when you're talking about you know down to the individual student. Is this something thing that they're gonNA see. Are They GonNa know that that you have you know blockchain technology that is supporting them in these efforts or is this something that You you know the world goes on and nobody knows nobody is is the wiser although maybe a little bit just from you know it's the normal can like the Internet working. Yeah I mean the the answer is absolutely an. I'll just reflect them. Something shared earlier. Our whole goal is to put the learner at the center of everything. So let me give you a real quick quick use case a lot of students in the country of begin their higher education journey in the community college and the vast majority of them actually aspire to coming coming to universities and many many. Don't finish their two year a degree before the actually apply to a university and then they get to a University of Arizona State University the city and along the journey without knowing Because actually we don't know what they took really before we're not really watching wants them to what they took before they got here and the community college pretty much goodbye when they actually get admitted to. ASU But using the blockchain And with permission of the Learner we can keep deep a sharing of the ledger of the courses that students taking she's year at Asu and actually get her two year degree while she's on the journey here at the issue and whether she finishes issue or actually you know unfortunately perhaps doesn't finish. She's got a credential she. Can you know she exit higher education with an and hopefully it inspires her because she actually does get an a degree while she's here at the finish for your degree And again the the Learner's perspective I really don't think we're ever going to call you know. Watch the magic of blockchain and action working for you It's going to actually part of our engagement work. We have a very successful and Dan Mobile APP environment and for for learners. They're gonNA see a view to what they're taking what the prerequisites are what they've accomplished. What again? What opportunities there are for a job after they take a set of of courses are actually hopefully Through better Machine learning actually be able to provide a tuning Of the course of courses that they need to be taking to be successful in the workplace overtime as we get the workforce community engaged in this the distributed ledger infrastructure and so You know again. Our objective is really a very much but the learner In control scenario that you outlined. It's a huge disservice. That higher education has a Sedgley inflicted upon you know twenty first century learners because we haven't figured out how to get The systems system's modernized and democratized as it has so much in our consumer life and again that's why we're motivated and inspired by the prospect of with salesforce or something so I don't know what's next for the future of blockchain at salesforce in an actually did WANNA touch mobile really quick as well so Mobile and blockchain. Because I think you know obviously all of these are interconnected and And the fact that you know the that AI and mobile and blockchain and all these things can. Tom Can work together. I know on the salesforce. Form is is really exciting. But it it accentuates You know what you can do from watching perspective when you have these other ways to You know to build Shirley Lebas saying I think the the end customer they may not know what watch chain truly is. It ended the day. They might know word. Maybe not but like laboratory focused on the end customer being in the center of this universe. Focus on that and one of the really interesting the use cases that our customers have been really driving towards is something we call ethical sourcing so ethical sourcing is when I buy a cotton shirt shirt. You know where did the did the cotton come from. Do they come from a place with you. Know Terrible Labor Practices Child Child Labor all mostly light light conditions which are out there in in certain countries or something called as Becky cotton which is cotton from a terrible place in terms of labor practices or come from unethical supply. Chain when I'm buying shoes or other garments it were they made from plastic recycled from the ocean or did they come from just typical local manufacturing processes So this is becoming really important for our customers and one of the things we hear is oh well do consumers care about this. Do they care about this by chain. And what we're finding in interviews we're doing with them. The focus groups is is absolutely new. Care They want to know that the products they're buying our from trusted at the go places and it's not service if you're buying. Organic food is not just a picture of happy farmer. It's hey was that farmer paid eight a fair wage or the or the products were they given the right seed were a allowed to roam free. You know all these conditions not just ella came from certain place become really important and so I think that's an area that we're really pushing in because our customers are bringing us there and we. We believe me. Help solve this nine. Eleven supply chain side and tracking so the lineage like we were talking about classic blockchain but also the connection to the customer. Then it ain't bringing those together that's where we salesforce added. Real differentiation is linking the end customer. We're all the way back through In terms of mobility in a some of the things we're seeing that are exciting. Will one thing if you think about reading networks together together and you think about you know training data whether it's robotics a gathering of data to really make sure they I is unbiased is intelligent If you're gathering data from multiple institutions are more sources watching it can be fantastic for the verification of that data to to make sure it's real data not fraudulent at new submitting it so I think it really interesting area to enable groups and organizations or university either institutions to put together gather data data broader sat donate will better training of Ai Link Powerful and then another thing we're seeing around ethical supply chain from ability perspective is actually elite working with satellite companies. And saying hey you can take pictures of farms of the rainforests of fields. What's happening? How did we know? These images are real so much has happened around fake news. Fake imagery Can we stamp and validate that. These pictures are real so when somebody posts something or are you read something New York Times or another institution. Oh Yeah I know that story is real. I think that's a really powerful teacher. Blockchain as well on the test and they may not know as blockchain technology sitting behind it so somehow it how to communicate through a petition stamp or trust score or logo that because meaningful that that he asked this is truly something real really. Yeah I think of it like the Like the consumer going from httpd ATP s like all of us as consumers mercer like man securities. Were in good shape. It's got that ass on there That was all it took to convince all of us that everything was secure right which is this May or may not be a good thing but but yeah it's the same sort of thing where you have a you have a layer of technology that is sometimes you know Transparent it but sometimes it's just a little a little muddled and I love those use cases we The complexity of like sourcing being able to verify things like that as we said at the top like this is all about trust and the great thing is that like we have a trust problem in society as as you know we always have in society is not like a new thing. Whatever anyone's like Oh we have a trophy yet we always have? It's you know from the days that you could. You know anyone could print a newspaper newspaper and disseminate it. You have a trust problem And I think that solutions like blockchain allow us to be more trusted and for businesses to have more for transparency with. Who they're doing business with and that's that's exciting for US emission and it's exciting to hear for for technologists to be able to have more fidelity on that you know just sort of share that as Adam was sharing You know one of the big challenges for all universities is to be thinking not only about our learners but also the fact that were you know we are cities sometimes nested within bigger cities and You know as technology evolves also this is about creating a relationship between our community and the city and the here at Asu As Adam knows you know we're also trying to think of the situation nation where you know over time while as important as it is for a sees blockchain support learner to learner environments or institutions institution. There's a whole nother another realm which is you know when machines and instruments of radios In a smart city are developed to support a more convenient convenient A better quality of life in in the city of making sure that we are capable of using the trust fabric to make sure sure of that We don't turn our cities with these technology into surveillance societies. But rather around. which which you know we can we develop trust fabrics? I think is going to be hugely important again. I'd see that as another monster challenge out there And as long as as we can make progress together in these big soup challenge areas around education or or or sort of as Adema subscribing end to end verification along along the supply chain. I think you know we're positioning ourselves to really answer the important questions of the twenty first century. which again is an educator? You know I'm I'm really happy. That it We have the technology partner. Who's speaking of big and ambitious late and innovative? Play as we are. We gotta have yes back just to smart cities as episode Because we've We love that stuff and it's just always so fascinating to think about you know the blending of the physical digital world and how we can How we can enhance those relationships? I'm sure is really guess. I'm just saying if we're good for it right Adam ring yes absolutely in. It's marcy scenario area where eleven. Am a really done. Some amazing work and partnering with them on that initiative would be amazing will be amazing and these are like this is not easy. Stop right like lettuce talking about trust as relates to facial recognition Russian and how blockchain can be a piece of that. You know who exactly knows longer term But these are big questions and in a require a lot of innovative they can so certainly exciting to work without a doubt all right. Let's get into the lightning round. These questions are fast and easy just like working on the salesforce customer three sixty platform the number one cloud platform for digital transformation of every experience. I know you both know well but you know we gotta make sure that the people do you can go to salesforce dot com slash platform to learn more so exciting to do lightning round questions with both of you. Are you ready on your mark. Absolutely go work number one song love. What apple on? Your phone is the most fun. I think it's still to this day with my kids. I would have to go with instagram. Instagram I follow a bunch of restaurants. I love to cook and I love looking at that stuff. Oh hold on hold I got I got to change my the Vino. Adam knows. I'm a wine. SNOB GOTTA go right. Yes that is true. One of the big. Forget my kids. It's all about wine fair enough. I've align with allow okay favorite bottle under twenty dollars. I'M GONNA throw out a great New Arizona. Wine producer called ruin. Are you an E and James Callaghan has a whole bunch. NJIT great old world wines that are GSM for around that price point. And I just have more so that I just is blocked from him today. It actually came in the in the mail I got by ups while we were here. And that's a that's also a great price performance of yeah I would go I'M GONNA go. It's called bring it. which is just really cool? Branding a really great organic wines out of Oregon and bring it as one of blinds and it's just awesome at not expensive and Scott that organic song. That is a super appealing. How about favorite teacher? Sure that you've ever had in your life. They're great Mrs Smith. It's all because of her. She was a great great teacher. Who Pretty much took me under her wing and and Told told me go. Don't let them tell you can't do it. Data I would say more Michael so I went to do a Jewish school through eighth grade and Morris Teacher we call them where Michael My my science teacher and just really you blew our minds with his passion and I remember when the shuttle exploded. We were with him in class and it was just obviously obviously such a profound moment in all of our allies and to share that with him years perspective and be a part of that was just so heartbreaking but also to to have him there with us in his point of view learn so much about it also really liked affected. Last question live best advice for first time. CIO strive to thrive with ambiguity. She's you must add though in chamber those great Adam. Best Advice Vice. I I don't know how many of these are there out there. But as VP of emerging technology. Best Advice I would say Focus on like labs said at the beginning. Are we really solving a problem that matters and are we really delivering doing business. Impact or are we just tinkering. I think in the world of emerging technologies. There is A. There's often an appetite to drive towards hype back and sort of fooling around with staff and it's like Nano now. This is not technology for technology's sake. Are we solving real palm. Are we bringing something of value. How you to our customers? Are we doing something. Amazing will dry impact. I would say. Don't get trapped in that in that tinkering world and focus on on real problems that we console. This has been awesome. Thanks so much for coming on will definitely need to bring you back for for wine talk and then maybe we'll do some some smart cities live any final thoughts. Now thanks Adam the San Francisco. Yeah we'll see both the dream force awesome guy so much I really appreciate it but lineup ticket by it. 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#304 Lets Get Nerdy About College Football: Zach Wilson, Kedon Slovis, Arizona St, Maryland + More

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#304 Lets Get Nerdy About College Football: Zach Wilson, Kedon Slovis, Arizona St, Maryland + More

"Oh my goodness. Good morning. Good afternoon. Whatever it is for you. I hope you're having a fantastic day. My name is Zach Miller. This is strong opinion Sports episode 304. I want to just do a nerdy Deep dive into college football today. I probably spent way too much time researching this episode and I'm doing oh my gosh, I feel like it's episodes taking forever. And I guess that's kind of what the show is. It's just me getting nerdy about stuff I care about but I guess I really want to waste anymore time. I want to jump into June what I've been working for days and days trying to put two words and kind of put to really answering some questions. I've been having a lot as I watch college football. So I recently went into a somewhat of a deep rabbit-hole watching the BYU quarterback Zach Wilson. And I wanted to know whether or not I thought he was a first round pick in the upcoming NFL draft and I felt like if I was going to develop an opinion one way or another I I wanted to do research because I wanted to feel very very confident with what I was saying. And so I do feel very confident saying the sack Wilson is absolutely going to be a first-round pick in the upcoming 2021 NFL draft. He's a really good quarterback. So so far. I count Trevor Lawrence Justin fields, and then Zach Wilson will be coming off the board in April or whenever the end of all draft has happened Thursday, October 8th and yada yada and I would take Zach Wilson over the North Dakota State quarterback Trey Lance Trey Lance is a whole nother can of worms. I keep avoiding diving into that and explaining my opinion a lance, but I will say I am much lower on trail. And so I think a lot of other people are I keep seeing rankings and a lot of stuff when I go trailing. I don't I don't really have Trail and so I think a large dog People do but again, I don't want to dive into that. I want to talk about Zach Wilson. So as we look ahead to the 2021 NFL draft, there's going to be a lot of teams that feel like they need a quarterback and that they want a quarterback and that combined with the fact that Zach Wilson has put really really good stuff on tape is why I think he's going to be a first-round pick and Jack Wilson to be honest is my personal favorite quarterback right now in college football. His style is so much fun. He can move around he can extend plays he's got tremendous feel for bodies around him in the pocket. He's got great mechanics. He's very accurate. He plays a very clean style of football one. That's I think it's enjoyable and results in very few negative plays exact Wilson is also mastered his office BYU. It's really incredible to watch him and his receivers have such great chemistry know Zac tax Mill and Gunner Romney. They are all one hundred percent in sync with each other and that leads to a lot of really wrong. Entertaining football. I mean I'm talking about back-shoulder Fades and jump balls and scrambled drills where Zack will roll out right or left and a receiver will come back for the ball to make a cool catch along the sideline and then it's also worth noting that Zach Wilson is very very comfortable playing under Center. You know, you see a lot of college quarterbacks come out as they go to the NFL. They've only been in shotgun catching a snap, you know, five yards behind the center bulb for their entire college career. Zach Wilson is not one of those guys. He's been under Center a lot. He's really comfortable doing play-action and running a lot of nfl-style plays and style schemes and then Thursday, I want to double down about something I think is Zach Wilson is the absolutely best in college football at navigating the pocket. He's really really great at handling a messy pocket with bodies around him. And then also in a very similar style to Russell Wilson, he's really good at sliding and avoiding taking big hits and that's also really important to have a long having longevity I guess in dog. Career in the NFL if you want to avoid big hits and tackles and does and so I think it's three best attributes as a quarterback are his accuracy his decision-making and then his ability to extend played a really I can't say that enough his accuracy is decision making is mobility. They are a big deal that make him what I believe is going to be a first-round pick in the upcoming NFL draft now. I would say that Zach Wilson doesn't have the strongest arm in the world. He's not a guy like Josh Allen or Justin Herbert, but it's also really hard to find a way to criticize this guy. There's really not a lot. You can criticize about his game. I think if arm strength is like he throws a better ball than Gardner Minshew. He's got a more than good enough arm to play in the NFL. So I don't know that criticizing his arm strength, but I guess it is also were saying he's not Josh Allen or Justin Herbert. His arm is not the biggest you've ever seen from a college quarterback, but neither was Joe burrow, so I don't think it really he's got good enough and that's all that matters to me. And so I look I think Zach Wilson is going to be a first-round pick in the upcoming NFL draft. And then I guess as you look around the NFL people should just pray and hope and not really really be concerned that you really hope that Zach Wilson doesn't get paired with a guy like Sean Payton or Kyle Shanahan and Eric be enemy and I kind of say that jokingly because the reality is if that happens if Zack and somehow find a way onto the 49ers or work with Sean Payton or coach like Eric be enemy. When they're offensive coaches competent and really really good Zach Wilson could absolutely be home run in the NFL and that's why I say other teams would probably hope man if you are a Seattle Seahawks fan or Cardinals fan or Ram van and that division the NFC West you hope and pray Zach Wilson doesn't fall to the 49ers Kyle Shanahan with Zach Wilson in his hands to mould and develop into a good quarterback. That's a really long scary fit. Now. I don't know that that's going to happen. You know, a lot of people Forty Niners fans especially are very very excited. Oh Zach Wilson, let's go. Let's see and I don't think Zach Wilson is going to fall that far off because unfortunately teams like I think the Jets are going to want to quarterback. They'll probably have the number one pick can take Trevor Lawrence. Then you'll have Sam darnold probably on the trading block. That's a team. Maybe that could get Sam darnold as the 49ers wage in Jacksonville. It's probably going to take a quarterback. I think Washington is going to take a cord back. I don't know how the San Francisco 49ers could possibly find a way to get Zach Wilson without trading up dead. Another team that's been talking about Zach Wilson the Chicago Bears. I also don't think that Chicago Bears going to have a high enough draft pick to get a quarterback like Zach Wilson. Now, I do think it's worth noting. I've talked a lot about good stuff is Zach Wilson is it doing is very very competent. So really good quarterback. I think if you go look at the Houston tape, the Houston game was easily his worst game in 2020. He was actually losing 26 to 14 late in the I guess late in the third quarter early in the fourth quarter. One of those do like later in the game in the second half was losing 26 to 14. But what's funny about that is I say like, that's what if it's worse games of the year. He still ended up having I think exactly four hundred yards passing and four touchdowns and then early on and Houston gave me a couple of throws over the middle into traffic. He was lucky one wasn't picked off and there were times when I think you're forcing you throw your not being very patient, but despite this little star in a couple of problems early on in that game. Actually, it's funny. What was his worst game of the year Houston was a game and went down. I really am uncomfortable here. I this is probably the worst film I've seen is Zach Wilson. What was interesting is as I gained went on. I also learned that Zach Wilson can handle adversity which is important. I mean, you're not always going to have things go perfectly and exactly your way and be one hundred percent and have a perfectly clean game so oddly enough as I watch what was probably his worst game of the year. I felt incredibly encouraged because we saw okay. Hey when things aren't exactly perfect. He can still fight through adversity and come back and keep swinging off and he actually came back from down to stores and then won the game 4326. So for me, even though it was probably his worst game of the year and actually is probably the most telling about who Zach Wilson is it's easy to dominate with your team better than everybody you play but when you're in a moment where you're down two scores late in the second half and you gotta fight back that's very telling about a quarterback. Zach Wilson is the kind of guy who can do that. I love that complete moment. That was awesome. Now, I would say that. I don't want to see Zach Wilson on the New York Giants or the New York Jets. I don't think he's a good fit on either team. I also don't think the swirling Winds of that Stadium Life Stadium is really a good fit for and a good match for Zach Wilson's arm talent, but I really believe that Zach Wilson absolutely is a first-round quarterback in the 20 20, 20 20 21 upcoming NFL draft. You will likely be the third quarterback taken in the draft. I think behind Trevor Lawrence Justin fields. And then Zach Wilson now again, I want to repeat something I've seen a lot of Forty Niner fans a lot of Pep bands. They are very very interested in Zach Wilson, and I don't think he's going to be on the board long enough to fall to a team like that. I'm calling my shot early. I think Zach Wilson is going to go off the board. To a team like the Jaguars or the Washington. They're not even the Redskins anymore the Washington football team. I guess that's not even offensive to say. I apologize if I offended anybody that's you know, whatever the Washington team. I don't think he falls that far Washington the Jaguars the Jets are all going to pick quarterbacks. So I think three teams at the top of the draft. We're going to take a quarterback before team like the Bears of the 49ers can scoop up and get Zack. And so unless the 49ers trade up for Zach Willis and they're not going to get him but I gotta say oh my gosh, if somehow Kyle Shanahan can get his hands on Zach Wilson Oh, that could be a really terrifying really really scary fit in the NFL. So keep Ryan Zach Wilson, he's a really good quarterback at BYU. I think absolutely he's a first-round pick. He's really really good. And I'm glad I did the work. I did a lot of I probably I tried to condense all my film and do just some interesting to hear stuff, but I I feel very very good about zackels and he's absolutely a first-round birth. Back, he's got really good habits. He plays really clean football. He's very accurate. He can extend places one of those NuWave quarterbacks. You can move around outside of the pocket and he doesn't necessarily run for a lot of yards, but he runs to extend plays off from the pocket to the sidelines keeping the play alive, and I've really fallen in love with Zach Wilson the style of play is so much fun for me. And so again, absolutely Zach Wilson is a first down in the upcoming 2021 NFL draft. All right guys, I want to stick with college football. I guess this whole episode about college football. So caught stick with college football. I got really nerdy about this game. I probably you know, so the recording of the game is like four hours long between USC and Arizona State and I probably took eight hours to watch this game because of how much I was rewinding and pausing and going back and reliving the stuff and re-watching plays and I don't have the game film for it. It's hard to get college football film for me, but I watch the the TV copy like again like a toute took me, you know, I I just have a whole eight-hour workday. Then I go to bed for four hours and I wake up and work for eight more hours and have a tower blocks of working then sleep and then at eight hours of working again, and I took an entire eight-hour. Watching the game cuz of how much I kept watching and re-watching stuff. So I want to do a deep dive into USC Arizona State. So in case you don't know, On Saturday morning USC beat Arizona State 28 to 27. And by the way is really fun. We got Gus Johnson and Joel Klatt on the call. They are my favorite. They're my favorite song of college football broadcasters. The energy was incredible especially for it was 9 a.m. On the west coast. They were just ready fired up ready to go. I love them and USC barely won this game like a game in the game. Oh my gosh, Arizona state had a six at a a thirteen point lead with six minutes left to go and I really thought USC was cake. I thought they were going to lose this game. It took too late touchdown on fourth down for USC plus an onside kick the first touchdown for USC came on a with a really with two minutes and fifty-two seconds left. It was a really good decision by USC quarterback in slovis. It was 4th and 13th for USC. Arizona State jumped offsides cheating through a ball up in the back of the endzone. It got tipped up to Bru McCoy for USC touchdown bam. It was dead. I believe Twenty-One to twenty-seven and then USC got the onside kick and went oh my gosh, this could happen and the drive goes on for USC and it's going and it's going and then you gave himself in a fourth and 9 and on 1/4 and 9 Keaton slovis throws a dime over the middle into a really tight window to drink London se1 win the game. They won the game 2827 after touchdown and it was fun. It was interesting. It was exciting but my biggest takeaway from this game. Is that both USC and Arizona State have I think significant problems on offense a lot of you know, things like dropped passes and protection issues and scum schematic challenge is based on how their offense is designed and so for both Jane and Daniels and Keaton Slovak Jack Daniels at Arizona State and Keaton slovis at USC. The struggles they're going to have in college in my opinion are going to be really really good preparation for the NFL. We're in the NFL. You almost never have a clean pocket and you deal with receivers dropping passes you deal with throwing the ball and really tight Windows you have to be able to handle in-game adversity when your rookie receivers not playing very well or man, like your your coach is frustrating you this or that is all kinds of stuff that goes on during an NFL game and these two young quarterbacks are going through things and learning lessons that will be incredibly valuable as they take the next step eventually Monday to the NFL but I want to dive in and specifically talk about the USC quarterback Keaton slovis. By the way. I love this guy. I think people don't realise how many small decisions he makes sure he's either extending a play and he runs out of bounds for 5 yards instead of forcing it down field or he throws a pass away or he checks down. I mean the decision-making by Keaton slovis I saw against Arizona State dead. He's unbelievable actually last year and this year when I watched Cadence love as I kind of can't believe how young he is. He's only nineteen years old and I go I just amazing that he's at good at such a young age because of discipline. It takes the the patience. He shows is Way Beyond his years at nineteen years old, but I gotta say I think the biggest challenge that Keaton slovis is going to face. All year long is going to be his internal struggle between himself and his own head to be patient. Now the good news is in my opinion that patience is actually probably one of Keaton's strengths as a quarterback, but it's going to be a battle still all here with himself trying to be patient trying to hold back try to know when to take his shots downfield because all your defenses are going to play soft Zone against you'll see Arizona state has a really really good defensive coaching staff and they laid out really a blueprint to slow down and to limit USC throwing the football. And so teams are going to force Keaton all year to check down throw the ball underneath to you know, they're going to drop guys into coverage and for skeet install this to be patient and take his time now us seems offensive coordinator is a guy named Graham Harrell. He comes from North Texas. He actually played quarterback back in the day for Mike Leach at Texas Tech. And so Graham Harrell was offense is an extension of the Mike Leach air raid system. And by the way, so as the Cardinals coach Kliff Kingsbury now Kliff Kingsbury in Arizona has kind of evolved passed away and he runs the ball really well and there's a lot of different stuff the way he attacks zone defense a little bit differently and I'm really really curious whether or not Graham Harrell can do what Kliff Kingsbury has already done and evolve past Mike Leach because what I really want to see from USC is I want to see them find a better way to attack Zone coverage because all year again, Arizona State game. Out the blueprint they're going to see his own coverage all year long and say us. He's got to find a way to put defenders in Conflict to really stretch The Zone rules and make Defenders wrong guy dropping in his own have people that I don't know how to put this in the right way other than to say that you got to have people that really really mess with the the rules of their defense and put defenders in contact with levels and with stop routes and of all kinds of systems that can really challenge a zone defense and what I saw on Saturday against Arizona State is that USC didn't they didn't really appear to hang out of the scheme to do make that happen and to do that. And so I I really want to see that change and evolve with USC's offense from Graham heroin from the schematic play design now, I thought that in the fourth quarter and the third quarter and the fourth quarter three out of the four quarters, On Saturday cute and slowest was very very patient. And it's really hard as a quarterback to toe the line between being aggressive and taking your shots downfield and then sometimes being able to hold back and know when not to take a shot downfield and when to be patient and let the game come to you. And in the second quarter, I thought that kittens Lopez kind of slipped up a little bit where he had four plays that I you know, as you have a charter to plays and you grade every play. These are plays that I would grade as bad plays as negative as you give a plus or minus you would get a minus on these four plays you had an underthrow. He had a dropped interception. He had a screen pass. I thought he forced he probably should have thrown in the dirt and he had an actual interaction and honest I think all things considered as you grade the way cute and saw this played at the end of the day you go man. The only have four bad plays all in one isolated quarter worth, you know, especially in a 9 a.m. Football game, you're nineteen years old the starting quarterback at USC. That's amazing. So I think he didn't solve this. I'm going to talk about some stuff and get really a bit harsh actually going into some of the problems had on Saturday, but I don't know that I want to kind of set the tone here. I don't want to just make it feel like I'm attacking the guy. I'm trying to be fair because I I I love Keaton's love ask who's my favorite quarterback in the Pac-12. I think it's only fair to talk about kind of did pick a little bit what he did wrong and then we'll get into what I thought. He did very very well. But first I want to say that his interception was probably the planes bothered me to least actually in his for mistakes. It was a throw into a tight window. There was a receiver on the hip of I guess a Defender with a on the hip of his receiver and the linebacker just made a great play. He drove undercut the pass picked it off. I really have not a big problem with that. It's a it's a quarterback trying to be aggressive. He's got a guy who's technically open and you have a linebacker diving making a really good play. I think all things considered that's one that I can say. Well, it's just the right play and hey, unfortunately, it's a minus but whatever now later I can remember this later or earlier at this point, but he had a throwaway under through Thursday st. Brown down the left sideline at nitpicky, but I want to see a better ball in that throw. He had a screen pass it was muddy and not really opened. That's a place where you just hey throw it in the dirt. It's not there be patient. But again later in the game, he had another very similar screen pass. It wasn't open. He did throw it in the dirt. So there's no habit there. That's just a moment of I think you'd himself was like man. We gotta make a play. We gotta make a play and off. I think you got a bit impatient. But again later he was patient. There's no problem there. He knows what he's doing and I think on film you look at these players and yeah, I need to be better on these three plays now the worst mistake in my mind. I'm sure again he would agree with this and the film room. It was actually a ball that got caught by the tide and Drake London. It was a scene ball down the left left like hash mark and I just thought the ball needed to be driven more over the middle. He left it too far to the outside. It should have been intercepted actually was in a linebacker's hands for Arizona State got tipped through the Defenders hands and was caught by Drake London. So weird play where it's a bad throw that should have been picked off. He didn't actually get punished for it actually was caught but I don't really care about the end result that care about the decision and the quarterback play off a bad ball that's got to be in a better location. And so again, I'm intentionally nitpicking cute and saw this here. I love the guy and I think it's important to acknowledge that he's not perfect game. Cuz I'm going to make it sound like he is perfect. Actually. I really I think he's the best quarterback in the Pac-12. He's phenomenal. He's a brilliant young man who does a lot of stuff very very well. And I think fans have no idea just how disciplined Keaton saw. This is kind of crazy the offense around him made so many mistakes. They had three fumbles from different people that were not named cancel this USA get stopped on fourth-and-one not once but twice so that's five five times where USC gave the ball to the other team that I thought had nothing to do with Keaton slovis that were unfortunate and a lot of kind of symptoms of a lot of other problems that USC and a lot of things went wrong for us. He's off and just in general the The Zone coverage cause them a lot of problems and I think what's really cool bike eating slow. This is that And I say this all the time when things are going wrong or things are not going well for you as a quarterback. What you never want to do is add to the problems that your team is dealing with cheating slowest. I used to do that. He refused to make the game-breaking mistake of the game-breaking fumble interception or this or that there was no moment like that. I thought he ran when he needed to he checked down the ball. I needed to he threw the ball away when nothing was open the patience and discipline that Cadence love it showed on Saturday. That's really what kept me in the game. I mean he waited he waited he waited and it's so hard for one, two, three four quarters to be patient and wait for your moment to pack. And then when you actually needed him at the end of the game on a 1/4 + 13 + 1/4 + 9 bam, he made it happen and it really came down to like I think two minutes and fifty-two seconds left with you know back in the fourth quarter. That's when USC finally scored their touchdown. They gave them a shot. They got the onside kick the scored another touchdown with like a minute left. I don't know how excruciating Lee difficult to us for Keaton slovis to be patient take his time and Wade and Wade and wait and be patient, but I just want to tip my hat. It's so hard to do that people have no idea as a competitive person. You're just like you want to make it happen. You want to bring your team back in force it and I just kind of am astounded that the patients Keaton slovis showed on Saturday to not force it to not try to make that big play. I just well done. That's a really good game and I thought that the patient skied and showed despite those for bad plays that I thought were nitpicky anyway. Cute and slowest of the reason his team won that game. And I I think that's a great example of why he's the best quarterback in the Pac-12. Now I do feel bad for the Arizona State quarterback Jayden Daniels on Saturday. He's a lot of good balls that should have been caught he was Arizona state was really really struggling with Jose catching the ball. There's so many drops. They got young receivers in the game that are I think very talented. They're they're freshmen that are going to be good in a couple of years, but it's just going to take time for Arizona State and I would repeat this at home when Jayden Daniels is learning painful lessons. They're going to make him better in the NFL how to there was a great moment where he's young receiver a freshman just a study is really really tall was struggling and he dropped the ball and channels comes over to him says you patch on the shoulder says Heyman, no worry, man. They're smiling adapts him up and says, I'm sure something to the effect of we need you. We are going to need you later in this game. Keep fighting. It's okay. We just gotta keep going and I gotta say I love what Arizona state is doing as a program Herm Edwards is building quite a program like oh my gosh. It's ridiculous. Arizona State's recruiting page is that they're going to get you to the NFL? Oh, yeah, by the way, they're also going to give you the tools and the skills and the coaching so that when you get to the NFL, you're going to stay in the NFL and then a s u s an amazing coaching staff. It starts with Zach Hill the offensive coordinator. He's also the quarterback coach. He's got a background that he went to he was a coach for a long time and Eastern Washington off then in Boise State He's Got Roots a decent washing that are really really like, he's a great coach and then Arizona say it's cold defensive coordinators are Herm Edwards received via. He remembers headcoats. Excuse me, Marvin down as a former NFL head coach of the Bengals is decode offensive coordinator. And you also have a former NFL linebacker Antonio Pierce. Both of them Antonio Pearson, Marvin Lewis our former Super Bowl champions wage. Crazy of that much NFL experience coaching for you in a college football game. It's ridiculous doesn't happen really ever and so I gotta say that if I was a parent of a high school kid right now, my kids have really good football player and I'm on the west coast my kid is going to a Pac-12 School. My son will be playing football at Arizona State. Absolutely. So I am telling you give a dog you a year or two because they are building a really really good really really exciting program there. They've got a ton of talented freshmen. They are just dominating actually in Southern California recruiting they're running back gypped random is the guy really who should be at at Ohio State what they grabbed him from Ohio Kip train him as a really talented freshman running back. He's a star and their office building. They got a lot of really really good talent at Arizona State and they're building a very very exciting program. Now asu's defense is very well-coached. They are disciplined again. I can't say enough how much people are they're building this really cool program down there in Arizona and I'm pretty much nobody coaching at ASU needs to be there either that's going to it's crazy at the cherry on top. I guess when you look around and you realize like, oh we have Herm Edwards who was a coach in the NFL for a long time then worked in television made a lot of money. We have Herm Edwards who was a long-time coach of the Cincinnati Bengals. We have Antonio Pearson Super Bowl champion who played for the Giants? He's made his money nobody their wage for the money. Nobody's there for any other reason then hey the guys coaching at Arizona State love football and I can't think of a better reason to want to be around a game and around a pro. Then you're just There For the Love of the Game. And those are the kind of guys. I don't want to be around if I was a high school kid looking at a college program and so shout out to Arizona State. I can't say enough good things about their program what they're big There it's really really cool. It's very very exciting for me as a guy who I am best passionate and I love football tremendously now, I gotta say this about Arizona about USC actually. Arizona state had the ball with thirteen point lead and the ball was six minutes left in the game. And the fact that USA won this game is kind of a miracle. I give all the credit actually to their quarterback cute and slovis and the onside kick and it just kind of amazing USC did not deserve to win this game. I guess maybe a way to put it cuz I think they did in the end make enough plays to win USC got lucky. They were lucky to win this game and long-term the USC football programs in trouble. I just don't feel very good about what they're doing. They're getting their butt kicked in recruiting by Arizona State in their home and their own home area Southern California ASU in Arizona is kicking their butt in Recruiting office. And I also got to say once Keaton slovis leaves. I don't know what the future of USC is USC is going to be a kind of a loss program because what I saw on Saturday was that Keaton's Lopez kind of Saved their program without his decision making his patients his ability to make plays when they need it. They are in trouble. And so when he doesn't slow this at some point in the next year or two years, maybe three years whenever he leaves and goes to the NFL us. He's really going to be exposed for the problematic program that they are. So I feel good about USC. I seem very good at Arizona State moving forward. I feel great about Keaton slovis. I like Jayden Daniels and USC is a loser here of the for parties have talked about here. USC is the one that's in trouble. I don't feel good about a future. And again, maybe I feel good about the future as long as key to install this is there as they're starting quarterback, but whenever that day comes and he walks away and leaves the program for the NFL. Oh boy, I think people have no idea the kind of the wait. He's got on his shoulders always carrying that program at least that he did on Saturday and I'm really concerned about the USC program. Whenever that moment comes that cute and slow this leaves and they realize oh, it wasn't the coach. It was always the quarterback. So yeah, it's my two cents. I really wanted to dive deep into the USC Arizona State game. I had a blast watching it and I hope you enjoyed my insight and I just a really shout out to get installed this man. He's the best quarterback in the Pac-12. He's a great kid and I feel really really sucks for him and his future and again the hardship he's going through now what USC is going to make him a way better quarterback when someday he does get to the NFL. All right guys, it's only have or now. I'm going to take a short break whenever turn. We're to talk about Justin Fields. So coming up. I guess we'll talk about Justin Fields. We'll talk about Notre Dame beating cleanse and and then later down the road at the end towards the end of the show. We're going to talk about how Marilyn is completely turned around their program. It's kind of unbelievable. They just embarrassed Penn State and then at the end of this year. I want to talk about the true freshman quarterback that you've never heard of that you should know about who else I'll tell you this when I watch something on Saturday. I felt like I saw the beginning of something very very special in college football. I'll save that for the end of the show. My name is Akshay amla. I'm taking a short break. I will be right back. There are now strong opinion Sports sweatshirts for sale. Oh, yeah, by the way, there's also now a permanent strong opinion sports store and to celebrate the opening of the store. I'm starting it with a sale currently. 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I believe one of the quarterbacks is going to get chosen the first round of the upcoming 2021 NFL draft and I guess I suppose the next two topics really have to do with the the other quarterback ever get chosen ahead of Zach Wilson Justin fields. And then indirectly we'll talk about Trevor Lawrence as well in a moment. But first I guess we'll start talking about Ohio State. So in case you don't know Ohio State's quarterback, Justin Fields is truly off to an incredible start to the 2020 season. He just had another great game against Rutgers. He's now three and no Ohio State South Korea know I guess as a game, but here's something incredible. Through the first three games of the year in 2020. Justin Fields has 11 touchdown passes. He also has only 11 incompletions. He's thrown as many incomplete passes as he's thrown touchdowns. I'm not a stats guy. I don't care about stats. You guys know that about me that's unbelievable. It just that's an example of how dominant and how clean and how precise he's been, you know, Justin Fields said before the year started that he felt like he wasn't ready for his next game to be in the NFL. So I part of why he fought so hard to get the Big Ten season back on to get Ohio State playing this year in 2020. And him saying that he wasn't ready for his next game to be in the NFL. I really really respected. I felt like going into the year. Justin Fields still had some questions. I wanted to answer and I wanted him to improve little bit better and I gotta say this year. He has made considerable Improvement. Every question. I ever had every little ounce of dog could have possibly had about Justin Fields has all been squished and completely erased and removed and I I really meant I gotta give him credit. He looks phenomenal. It's also pretty cool. Here's another thing that I think is interesting again, not a stats guy don't care. But you look at the first three games is only rushed for 57 yards rushing on the entire season. And what that means is that a guy who Justin Fields is an incredibly gifted Runner of the football is one of the best running quarterbacks and all the college football. Well, the fact that he's not running a lot shows that he really is winning with his arm. He's become a guy who is a he always I guess was a throwing first quarterback, but really he is winning with his arm and I just I gotta say man. He's navigating the pocket very very well. He's making free rushers missed he's using his ability to move and create throws downfield instead of running to run off. He's running to extend plays and run from the pocket to the sidelines. I don't really care about running downfield a lot in the NFL if you're a little more Jacks and that's amazing. It's unbelievable. But really in 2020 as a quarterback, what's most important is can you run to the sideline? Can you extend to play outside of the pocket? Keep it alive along the sideline throw the ball downfield. Justin Fields absolutely can do that. It's really fun to watch Justin Fields this year. He's just mastered what he's doing at Ohio State. He's dominating. He's in complete Command. He's executing at a high level. It's also weird note a note I noticed. Just against Rutgers where he's under Center a lot. No one talks about this but Justin Fields is really comfortable and very confident playing under Center taking five step drops using play-action wage running nfl-style, you know schematics and that's really important because I think that no one you see a lot of quarterbacks in college go to the NFL you haven't been in shotgun haven't been understanding very much have only been in shotgun because in high school they were in shotgun in college. They were in shotgun. A lot of the times is he guys go to the NFL and they've never really had to deal with a snap under Center. Justin Fields is not that guy. Also a nice thing is that I think he's going to go to the NFL and throw a better spiral because right now you see the the ball Ohio State chooses to play with is actually it's really hard to throw it's a weird thing. No one talks about the NFL ball is going to spend way easier off of Justin Fields hands I think is go throw a better spiral in the NFL which is weird and nerdy but no one no one really talks about how much better it is to Thursday. NFL ball, oh my gosh. It is way easier to spend and throw a spiral with I'm really curious. I guess if Justin Fields can eventually supplant track Lawrence as the eventual number one overall pick in the NFL draft, but I gotta say whatever team ends up with the number one overall pick whether it's the Jets or Washington or the Jaguars or who knows red team ends up having that number one pick when the 2021 NFL draft comes around they're going to have to at least have a conversation whether or not they're going to pick Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields. Justin Fields has elevated his place so much when he's punched a hole through that wall and said, hey, I deserve to be in that conversation and I oh my gosh man. It's just a blast to watch Justin Fields. I give him so much credit just really really cool. Now personally, I hope we get to watch Ohio State play Clemson down the road in the college football playoff. I think Ohio state is going to whip through their remaining opponents. Actually took their gaming is Maryland just got canceled because of covid-19 land has but I want to see an opportunity for Ohio State to get revenge against Clemson. Remember Clemson knocked Ohio State out of the college football playoff last year. Justin Fields even had an ugly interception at the end of the game that's ingrained in my memory. And I think if Ohio state gets a rematch against Clemson, they're going to win that game and it's going to feel like Revenge going to be like Vindication and cleanses defense really struggling with the vertical passing game. That's one of Ohio State's strengths right now and I am I just my hat is off to Justin Fields. He's made himself a way better quarterback. He's mastered everything he's doing and right now head-to-head Ohio State versus Clemson, I would absolutely go for home. Even before they lost the Notre Dame have been concerned about about know about cleanses defense. Excuse me, and I think Clemson right now they would shred Clemson C Ohio State which I cleanse in the passing game and I hope we get that matchup between Trevor Lawrence against Justin fields at some point in the college football playoffs. Oh my goodness. It would be amazing. I really really hope we get to see that at some point down the road in college football. Let's talk about comes in on Saturday Notre Dame. Beat Clemson, 47 to 40 in double overtime. So Notre Dame is now 7 to no cleanse in his name seven and one and I was really really impressed with Notre Dame and this feels like a signature win for Notre Dame's head coach Brian Kelly wage. Like Brian Kelly does not get enough respect that he deserves. I mean, he's won a ton at Notre Dame. He's been there I think over ten years and he's been there like eleven years at Notre Dame. He recruits very very well his team always well-coached and it's funny if you compare Brian Kelly right now at Notre Dame compare them today Brian Kelly against Jim Harbaugh at Michigan and you go. Oh my gosh, I guess. Brian Kelley has been massively successful at Notre Dame. Meanwhile, this feels like a might be the last year at Michigan for Jim Harbaugh you go at Jim Harbaugh is might be out of a job. Like in January. Oh my gosh. It's kind of weird and surprising Brian Kelly does not get the credit he deserved for what he's done at Notre Dame. It's a hard program to win with there's a lot of pressure that you know that if you're coaching for Notre Dame, they've got a gigantic fan base a lot of eyeballs on that program people. There are very very quick to say you're not very good get out and I think Brian Kelly man deserves a lot of credit and respect for what he's done at Notre Dame also got a I've got a lot of respect for the Notre Dame quarterback Ian book. I really was impressed with the way he played against Clemson off this victory over cleansing is probably the best of ever seen you need book play in college football and like I've never been very very I always look at college football from an NFL perspective. I really kind of God. Once I realize the guys probably not a great NFL quarterback I go I don't really care. Cuz the question I care about is does your game translate to the NFL and I see you guys game doesn't really translate to me and then I'll be honest. I just kind of stopped paying attention cuz being a great college quarterback to me is not as interesting as being a great NFL quarterback and I've never been very very excited about Ian book as an awful prospect. It's so for that reason. I've never really given him his shine. I've always said he's average is I've just never given him the respect he deserves and so I think I want to say this as a college quarterback. He's a coach's dream. He works hard. He's disciplined and here's what I really want to give a lot of credit to Ian book for I think unfortunately, I think it's going to sound a lot. Like I'm taking a shot at him. That's not my intention here eat a book or something. I was never able to do as a quarterback and in book has done something as a quarterback that I think really most quarterbacks like ninety-nine percent of quarterbacks never ever doing A career is that I think he's maxed out. I think Ian book is really gotten every single ounce of good football. He possibly can get out of him. He really I think it is wrong. And that's I think you're going to it's going to sound like you're criticizing like cuz again, I don't think he's an NFL quarterback to some any of the ground. He's certainly not a franchise quarterback. If you look at Ian book from an NFL perspective. He's probably Case Keenum at best right but it feels like again the way that you can book extend extends plays. He's making good decisions. He's playing very very clean. He's had a dime off shoulder ball down the left sideline against Clemson Ian book has done something that most quarterbacks in their lifetime never get to do which is to play until they're really probably not going to get any better at all. I mean Iraq, I think that he is maxed out and gotten the most potentially possibly can out of him and I'm not trying to attack the guy think it's actually admirable and I guess I didn't think about Too much before I set it and hope it doesn't sound like I'm being critical the guy he's not really an NFL quarterback in my opinion. But oh my gosh, he's dominated in college football. He's really maxed out everything he could possibly do and I hope that look how cool would it be if I'm totally wrong any book goes the NFL has the next Tom Brady and people clip out this little segment and go see Zach. He became the guy. Okay, Cheryl. Okay. I'm okay with that but to be a three-year starter at Notre Dame and who have never lost a home start. I just I think that Ian book because he's not an NFL quarterback people like me and a lot of people out there are just never been like we never embraced Ian book and giving him the round of applause. He deserves ebooks had a credible college career. He's a really really phenomenal college quarterback. And I think he's really he's gotten everything. He possibly could out of his college football career and I just think that's admirable wage. I certainly didn't and a lot of quarterbacks even guys who played the NFL often. They never reached their potential Ian book is done that and I think that deserves a a really lot of respect and to some degree Round of Applause for me and from a lot of the world to say Ian book you did it man. You worked incredibly hard you made yourself into a really good quarterback. He started three years at Notre Dame and he never lost a home start was just unbelievable to me anyway, so I think Notre Dame this team this year in 2020 has a shot to get to the college football playoff how cool that be if Notre Dame can do that with Ian book and I dead I just I gotta say like well done man, you've done very well and Ian book deserves a lot of credit. He's probably not going to get a lot of it because he's probably not a franchise quarterback in the NFL. That's unfortunate. He's done a great job in college. So number one Clemson got beat by number for Notre Dame and kind of a story this game was that Clemson was missing their Star Quarterback Trevor Lawrence. But it's answers interesting. I don't think Clemson really suffered much drop off because they went to freshman quarterback DJ younger Lele and I oh my gosh. I am so excited about this kid Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney gave a quote where he basically said that DJ younger Lele would start on most other D1 college football programs. He is not raw like, oh my goodness then again, if you haven't heard the name, but here's how you say, it's DJ Whoo, young girl a he's really impressed me in his two starts this year at Clemson. He started against Boston College had a cool comeback victory over BC and then in his second start ever. He's on the road at Notre Dame. He's down by 13 points in the second half and he brought his team back and gave them the lead against Notre Dame on the road in the fourth quarter all my goodness. I I hate like it's I'm so pumped up dead. And I'm really sad that cleansing didn't win the game. But forget the win DJ Yonder Lele is so exciting and so cool and it's crazy if they're going to transition from Trevor Lawrence when he leaves to the end of the month leave after this year. They're going to transition from that guy to DJ ungle a oh my it's terrifying and when I watch DJ all I can see is he's going to become a more polished version of Josh Allen the quarterback of the Buffalo Bills. He's really he's already a star. He's a huge kid. He's got a great arm. He sees a feet feel very very well. I just am excited for the future of d e l a and he's a I just a guy like his dad. I think that you know, Big Dave is really really cool. It's exciting. If you never heard of that guy look up Big Dave DJ Mangal a lace Dad. It's so like it's just interesting and funny and cool. And I'm no man. I just I loved what I got to see from him. Now in the end of felt like experience one out. Unfortunately Clemson did lose the game. Unfortunately few Clemson, if you're Notre Dame fan, you're like, yeah, you're so excited. I'm not trying to pick a side here. But Notre Dame scored second. I guess they scored first in double overtime so claims he got the ball and during Clemson's possession. DJ took back-to-back sacks cleanse and found themselves in a unwinnable 4th and 24 situation. And in the end it was a good win for Notre Dame credit to Brian Kelly credit to Ian book now. I really hope we get to see a rematch between Notre Dame and Clemson in the ACC conference Championship game, and I just I want to see Notre Dame play Clemson again. I think we will see that and I'm very very excited for what is to come later down the road and the ACC between Notre Dame and Clemson now, do you get more weird kind of I guess their their notes and things that kind of stood out to me from the scam. Number 1 Notre Dame fans after beating the number one team in the nation. They stormed the field and I think about a year other than this year. I'd go. Yeah, that's awesome. I go. Oh my gosh, this year was kind of weird, you know during covid-19. I'm probably not supposed to say this and I know that for me this is not a statement about politics, but I was watching the game Notre Dame and Clemson on NBC and you know, I record games I watch them way after the fact they record the game was on Saturday. I watched the game on Sunday afternoon cuz I'm a weirdo and that's what I do and it takes me a long time to get through stuff. You know, my the USC Arizona State game could be eight hours to watch this country winding and fast-forwarding. I was doing and pausing and re-watching stuff and taking notes and Midway through the game NBC cut away from football to a bite in speech and I had nothing against you but like whatever but I was watching the game to see football. Not Joe Biden and I was kind of annoyed like oh my you know, in fact because of the way I watch football the next day on the Sunday. I had a hard time even finding footage of the moments in the minutes. I lost it was like dang it and so it's a minor gripe, but I don't know if anybody else had that same problem. I thought Where was just like really like I'm here for football and you know, I'm watching the president-elect talk and stuff. Like I don't I'm not a politics guy. I'm a football guy and from a pier football standpoint. It was really really annoying like wage. I don't care about Joe Biden watch football and that's I don't care about either politician. I don't care about the sides. I'm not a politics guy. I'm a football guy and from a football standpoint. I was just really noticing NBC come on you could better solution than to cut away from the game and watching like, I don't know. I don't I don't know if I'm the only one and as I'm saying it I'm probably sounding like an idiot and tone deaf and I gotta say it's probably we're going to cut away from my own National gigantic college football game. Probably. The only thing you can cut away from is the the leader of the American free world like okay fair enough I get that but I don't know if I am I alone was that the only person who was like God really like we're going to cut away from football for a president. Like I I just I'm not a politics guy and I wanted to watch football and I was just like really so fast forward wait, you know, I had to drug you look on YouTube. To find the moments of the game like the the 20 minutes of the game I missed out on it was just annoying to me and I wonder I hope I'm not the only person who feels that way. Maybe I get articles written about me that hate me at something. I am not crap on anybody and politics. I just was like guys I want to watch football. All right. I want to take a short break. When I return I want to talk about Maryland because wage Maryland football has completely turned around their program. They embarrassed Penn State on Saturday and it's just I've got exciting stuff in I really as I look at Marilyn I go off my goodness things are different now and that area and I just I guess College Park is where their campus is located. I don't I don't know if that's true. I think that's honest and true and then I saw something on Saturday. This is the other thing going to talk about the at the end of the show. I saw something on Saturday that felt like to me the beginning of something really really special. I'm going to share that at the end of the show. My name is Akshay Kumar. I'm take a short break. I will be right back. All right, we are back. Hope we're doing very very well in case you don't know this past weekend, Maryland. Beat Penn State thirty-five. 52192, Maryland is now two in one and Penn State is now oh and three on the season that's kind of Penn State's a bad shape. Now, it was a rather convincing windburned. But first I got to say this is really important since the Maryland win. They have actually gotten a lot of like, I guess an outbreak of covid-19. Time that Maryland looked better Coach than Penn State or that they had better athletes or straight up a better quarterback and it's really really exciting because last weekend Maryland state Maryland was all those things that were better Coach. They had better athletes. They had a better quarterback straight up. And so first of all Thalia tongue of Aloha is a big reason why this Maryland program is being elevated and turning around and become a program. I'm really really excited to watch every single week to Leah is a really good athlete. He's very good at extending plays back in command. He's very very comfortable as a quarterback. I just love watching the guy every single week. I love a story. I talked about in a past a video about why I specifically for Thalia but I love to throw a snowball. He's a good decision-maker. He again, he's a good at extending plays and keeping plays alive. And Marilyn is just a different program. Overall now than they have been in the past couple of years and quite a long time. I mean Maryland embarrassed Penn State they were up thirty five to seven early in the third quarter in this game has 27 at halftime. And so part of why Marilyn is turning things around. It's their coach Mike locksley. It's too late song of a low it's also they have to stud freshman and of course a couple of other really good freshman. The recruiting has been very very impressive. But two people working were Kim Jarrett work am not Rakim Rakim Jarrett and a corner tahib still so we came Jarrett had five catches 444 yards two touchdowns and the guy had two long touchdowns where I caught a pass over the middle and just outran everybody down. The left sideline was kind of crazy. Like he came from right to left had two long touchdowns on very similar-looking plays across the middle of the field for a long run after the catch and you know before my clocks who was the head coach of Maryland. He was the offensive coordinator for job. Bama and then you also know if you're a Maryland fan, you know that alija tagovailoa transferred from Alabama to Maryland and we're Kim Jarrett looks like a recruit that Mike locksley might have stolen from that. He's that talented. He's that good where Kim Jarrett Jarrett is a big play Speedy home run hitter. He had two plays where again he outran everybody down the field for a touchdown. He's a guy that I think if NFL person you put Tim Jarrett on your radar and go watch this kid grow at Maryland with Thalia Thalia tagovailoa. Now, I also want to give a shout out to Maryland. He kind of plays practical Corner meaning. He's the corner of that often covers guys in the slot. It's and I'm nervous about getting this name wrong. It's t a r h e b e b. I'm going to call him three bags tarhe battery still he's playing the nickel Corner covering slot receivers. Mostly the dude had four tackles. He had two passes defended. He looks really good in coverage. He's only a freshman he hath Again, really good man coverage against Penn State and as a whole I look at this Maryland team their offenses better. They got better athletes. They've got really good freshman. Their defense looks really really good. This whole marriage program is a brand new program making a Resurgence and kind of turning things around. It's very exciting and it starts with their quarterback Tua tagovailoa. He's awesome. And I really love watching him play every single week. I get a bad game to start the year and then it's really turned things around since and then Thalia I honestly believe that the first game was some nerves and some some maybe some stuff going on with playing that first game but ever since that first game that bad start he's really settled in and looked phenomenal the last two weeks from Maryland now Penn State. First of all, I really believe that Penn State's being held back at quarterback Sean Clifford. I have never been very impressed with Sean Clifford. The first time I really saw him play any meaningful amount of snaps was against Minnesota last year. Remember when Minnesota had this crazy Be upset win over Penn State and I went yeah, Sean Clifford. It's not the guy at Penn State and I kind of can't believe he's still starting. I guess he's going to split time with a new quarterback moving forward. But when I offered that Sean Clifford through 57 passes in this Maryland game, I cringed when oh my gosh, that's terrible. He really struggles with accuracy Sean Clifford. Mrs. Beavers that are open constantly like he has guys open over the middle and he can't hit the throw. Whereas you guys open on the left or right side lined. He just misses with an accuracy and I go how is Sean Clifford still starting quarterback at Penn State. It kind of blows my mind. Every time I watched Penn State I go this guy still it's not good and you know side covers preparation kind of is to blame. I I I look at him and go he's probably just typical guy playing college football enjoying the spoils of being a starting quarterback for a major deal one program. He doesn't look like he's very well prepared and his attention to detail is awful. I hope them You would hear what I'm saying not feel attacked and say yeah, I gotta work on my preparation out of work on my attention to detail. He had three turnovers in this game. He was holding out the whole way too long. I just look at Sean Clifford to go menu don't have it. He's not an NFL quarterback of to any degree and there's accuracy is just a problem. Now Penn State also had in my opinion an early coaching error in early coaching mistake. We're off Penn State had the ball forth and three at the 7-yard line going in it's really, you know, if they get a first down at first and gold And Penn State on 4th and 3 on the seven-yard line decided to go for it instead of kicking a field goal and I was you know, the broadcaster without that was a bad mistake. I felt like it was a bad mistake of it. Why are you passing an opportunity basically for three guaranteed points? And also not only do you get three guaranteed points by kicking a field goal from the seven-yard line. You're also passing up guaranteed momentum and ever since that moment. It felt like Penn State just fell apart as an offense and fell apart as a program in this game against Maryland now, I will say Penn State's got a lot of problems. I am concerned. I think James Franklin keeps his job at Maryland. Give him another year get him a real quarterback. Let's see what he can do. He's done. I've really been impressed with him as a coach up until this year and I'm looking at Penn State going throwing through but there is cold, but I think he keeps his job based on it's a weird year with a crazy offseason and you can chalk up all their success if you want to covid-19. Until this year in his career now gotta say though. You may want to write Penn State offense. I don't care about this program, but there's a guy you still got to pay attention to from an NFL perspective. His name is Jahan Dotson. He's absolutely an NFL receiver in my opinion. He's got a he had a catch against Ohio State like a one-handed snag for a touchdown. We just reaches up with his right hand grabs the ball in the goal and pulls it in a like. Oh my gosh. That's a crazy catch you at another catch for a touchdown against Maryland. He's got great ball skills. He's a jump on monster had another hundred yard game against Maryland Johns. Sin is the best player on the Penn State roster and despite all of Penn State's problems. Jahan Dotson has been a bright spot. If you're an NFL person who loves, you know prospects and guys in the N draft Jahan Dotson. It's got to pay attention to he is absolutely A future NFL receiver now. I want to shift gears to something because As I watched college football on Saturday. I felt like I saw the beginning of something really really cool and there's a player out there that I am really excited to keep watching as the years go on and watch this guy, and become a better quarterback. So there's a quarterback at Washington state that I think a lot of people don't know about that. They should know about us name is Jaden Delora and he's a I guess he's the first true freshman and to start a season opener and Washington State program history. Oh my first of all that's notable and interesting. Oh, yeah, by the way, he took down so I played very very well in the season opener at Oregon State on the road at Reser Stadium. Now, he's not perfect. He's a true freshman you had a couple of mistakes, but I really believe the future is bright guy Jaden Delora. I love his skill-set. He's got a you know, he can move around he can extend plays. He's got really good arm Talent. He's got a good timing. He throws an out route. Very very well does a great Depot Like really well, you know deep and good and a good location vertically down the field along the sidelines. You can tell his teammates like him and respect him that's hard is a true freshman. He's got straight out of high school to come on can be enough the other people the veterans that have been in the program for a long time. Jameer Calvin people like him to go they're giving him knuckle bumps and they really seemed to have embraced this young true freshman quarterback. You can tell a soul mates can sense that. He's got something special going on and he's been very very comfortable at least Week 1 against Oregon State. He didn't have a slow start. He looked really really comfortable from the get-go and for him. I think that Jaden Delora is in a perfect offense for his skill-set playing for Nick rolovich under under wear nikal visit Washington State, so I am telling you you gotta pay attention and learn the name Jayden to Laura. Now I do have some minor concerns about ball security. There's a couple of times where he's running with the ball really exposed in one hand. Like Michael Vick style. You didn't have any fumbles against Oregon State. But again, he holds the ball at in very risky positions that I go that's a little bit nerve-wracking but I'm telling you give Jaden Delora a year or two because he is going to light up the Pac-12 as time goes off Washington state is rebuilding for a shower, but they have picked the perfect quarterback to build around a very very excited for the future of Jaden Delora know I do need to admit that I think Jaden Delora is got the perfect mash-up of different factors to make him exactly the kind of quarterback. I would root for and really really love you may or may not know I spend a lot of time at Washington State I was there for two years. I worked on their side lines. So I I watched Gardner Minshew play live and watch Luke Falk play Live. It's fun to watch another guy where that number for I work on the sidelines Washington State doing all kinds of stuff got it was close to their football program have a lot of friends that still to this day play there. And so I I love that Jayden Delora is a Washington State quarterback from my perspective. He's got that going for him. That kind of makes him the kind of guy would already read, you know pay attention to root for but then I also admittedly have a really deep affinity for Hawaiians. I love Hawaiian culture and my soft spot is kind of seeing guys from Hawaii May succeed. I love when that happens and then also admittedly when I played college football my group of guys. I was like the only white guy with all the Hawaiians I was always hanging out with the guys from Hawaii they were dead. Welcoming to me they were incredibly kind. I just loved the Brotherhood they had and that was my crowd. So I when I see a guy Jaden Delora a quarterback at Washington state from Hawaii I go it's a perfect set of things all coming together to make me in love with a guy and really excited about his future. Anyway. Oh, yeah, by the way, my bias aside. He's incredibly talented. He's really exciting to watch. I love his playing style of the way. He runs around everything about Jaden Dolores screams. Oh my gosh pay attention to this kid, and I I'm just so excited for his future and I gotta say again. I felt like on Saturday. I saw the beginning of something really really special between Nick rolovich and a Washington state program that is rebuilding and trying to get back to what they once were underway a couple of years ago and they got this young true freshman quarterback Jaden Delora. It's so exciting to me and I will say this coming weekend Washington State plays University of Oregon dead. That's a tough game organs a good program. It's going to be a fun quarterback battle though between Tyler show a first-year starter, Oregon and Jaden Delora. So I'll be watching is going to be fun. I want to help people set their expectations accordingly because please remember Washington State as a program is rebuilding they got a new coach. They have a true freshman quarterback. They also have a tough schedule this year off, you know, they're they're they're five remaining games. They play Stanford and that's I think that's a win they're going to win that game. But they also play Oregon Cal USC. That's a tough game and University of Washington so long if Washington State can find a way to go three and three of this year. I think that would be a great season for them. That's a really good outcome with a new coach and a true freshman quarterback, but be patient with Washington State because I am telling you this Kid Jaden Dolores very talented. He's got this incredible energy some Swagger his confident the people around him really like him. They really gravitate to to follow him and rally around him and Ed. Just Washington state. They're building something had a brand new coach. They got a true freshman quarterback. They're building for the future and I'm telling you the name. You gotta know Jaden Delora. Is this true freshman quarterback of Washington state to I think there's the beginning of something very very special going on at Washington state pay attention to him. He's a name that I think down. The road is going to be lighting up the Pac-12. So Jaden Delora one of my new home exciting quarterbacks. I'm excited to watch grow Washington state pay attention. Maybe it's a great name and ask them nothing else. I just oh my gosh. I love the kid so much fun. All right guys, that's all I have. Thank you very much for tuning in. I really really appreciate it. I hope you're having a fantastic day. I I'm I guess I'm halfway through the NFL games. I'm going to talk about the next episode. I wanted this episode took an hour-long. I didn't want to clutter with also having NFL stuff. So we'll talk about 2 or tomorrow. We'll talk about the Raiders and the Chargers will talk about either either Friday morning or tomorrow. We'll talk. Out the Patriots and the Jets whatever kind of nightmare that was also by the way, the Saints destroyed the Buccaneers. I haven't watched that game yet. I want to figure out what happened there. There's good stuff ahead apologize that took way longer than I thought I just got it's funny. Like I feel like I did so much research for Zach Wilson and then end up not making a very long segment, but that's how it goes sometimes and I just wanted to be very calm. I'm going to make a statement like Zach Wilson is a first-round quarterback. I wanted a confident to say enough to say that and had done my research. So I love you. I appreciate that. That's all I have but I'm bum God damn we are done.

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Power and Consent: Reconsidering Oral History

Tiny Spark

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Power and Consent: Reconsidering Oral History

"Welcome to tiny spark a podcast of nonprofit quarterly. We focus on justice in matters of race health the environment and the economy. I'm amy costello in the nineteen sixties. Milan therapist doris duke decided. She wanted to preserve indigenous oral histories. At the time the civil rights movement was gathering strength marginalized voices were being amplified through protests and through legislation. Like the civil rights act of nineteen sixty four against that backdrop. Duke decided to do something to ensure that native americans could share and preserve their histories and experiences so in nineteen sixty six duke funded professors researchers in grad students from seven universities to collect some six thousand five hundred oral recordings from native americans. This idea of speaking directly for oneself as a concept is vital for people who have for generations been marginalized slaughtered and oppressed by white power structures and whose narratives have been censored and hijacked to. That time is over. We can manage interpret our own culture. We don't have to have someone else do it for us. Alison dong is the co director of. The doris duke. Native oral history revitalization project the arizona state museum university of arizona. She is leading a team of librarians and archivists to preserve and digitize the original recordings from the nineteen sixties and seventies and to safely and securely return them to the tribes to whom they belong. The duke charitable foundation is paying for this project and on the one hand the seems like a positive initiative saddam says for the native communities involved. The work is important and profound. I am pleased with all the work. That's going on the hard work. Said deep works Spiritual work that tribes are doing now to make sure that their culture and their language and the knowledge they have an ancestors is carried on. But then there's the matter of the material itself which was recorded in the sixties and seventies often by grad students the stories in the archive comprise range of accounts from the historic to the mundane students. Talk about how they get to school. An older man says he is getting ripped off because his land is being exploited by farmers. There are recordings of christmas pageants and tribal council meetings some share wisdom about healing saddam. He's been listening to these recordings lately and as she does that. She's aware of a number of problems that arise in an archive that contains the experiences of indigenous tribes but which is captured on tape by a group of predominantly white academics. The graduate students were hired to collect material and they went out and collected information that they thought they should collect. They were interested in. There was very little guidance. Offered to the students it was pretty much based on what their interests were. Maybe they spoke to a professor about their work. But the volk that material then is at the arizona state museum archives. I must say when. I just heard you describing the genesis of this archive how it was collected by grad students. Sometimes with or without the guidance of a professor without any particular frame in mind or goal in mind necessarily i just i. I'm hearing in your voice and the way you describe the archive itself. Would it be fair to say. I'm hearing either some concern or skepticism or something. I'm hearing something there about how you view this raw material itself and the way in which it was gathered. Can you speak more to that. I think i can at the time that the material was gathered. There was very little informed consent happening and is really up to the interview or so. This is all through the lens of the interviewer. There are some students. I think who did. Try to get informed consent who did have permission of sorts. And the reason i know this is i was just over at the museum looking through some of the paper documents that they have and there was an attempt to go back and find the researchers students and see. Did you get consent. did you have permission. And so there is a record of that so not all of them I don't wanna paint a broad picture of this being sort of forced So some students did get some permission. Others did others would admit that they were some of the professors told them to maybe look at stories or songs or language. There are still some that are restricted and those are restrictions placed on the material by the interviewer the student at the time. And i think at the time some of them were concerned because the person said. Don't let anyone listen to this. Until after i'm gone there's at least one instance that i know from that there may be more but there just wasn't uniform. Some did it in some did not the issue of consent as it relates to interviews and in this case audio interviews is very fraught. And you know. I've worked as a audio reporter in many places around the globe and I'm a white woman coming into a space of people of color and taking up my microphone and asking them to speak with me. And then i take their story and i share it. Frankly in whatever way me and my editor decide there is so much power in that role as the person who is recording the interview. Who is asking the questions. And i want to dwell in the space for a little while. Because i think it's so important as we think about this archive that you're talking about and i know you're very much aware of this and that's what you're talking to me about now but i'm not necessarily sure all the time that somebody who says yes you can ask me questions. Yes you can record. My experience would actually feel comfortable saying to me. No you can't Yeah yeah and so. I wanna talk about even in the case of so-called informed consent. What concerns do you have. Even when that is given especially back in the nineteen sixties and seventies let alone now. Yeah but now. I would like to talk. I mean i. I'm being very careful as i talk because this is this is a project. I'm working on right now under the auspices of the university of arizona. But i know what you're saying. And as i'm listening to these tapes. I'm getting the sense that at that time some of these students went out or some were very young and naive in some. I don't know if they understood the power dynamic but they probably weren't even conscious of it but they were graduate students in a higher education institution. Many of them were anthropology students. Some they saw them as informants a saw these people's informants and i think they knew consciously or unconsciously that there was that power dynamic and i know that some of the tribes many even now will there. Is this characteristic that it is so rude for people to ask questions. you just. don't ask people direct questions. You just don't do that. And non native white people do this all the time. I know this from my where he just. You have to know that to talk with white people to interact with people that are not tribal that you sometimes have to step out of your comfort zone and be prepared to ask questions and to answer questions. So yes i know that some of these folks would have not said no because they would have felt for one thing that it was kind of rude to say. No there are some when i was working to smithsonian. I was introduced to a lot of tribes with my work. And i know that there are some cultures that just to say no just to for someone to say no in itself is so difficult and they will go out of their way and say it another way or not answer and even now. If somebody doesn't answer you you should know not to ask him another question. It's pretty obvious but not to nominate people even today. So i think some of them probably were aware of that power dynamic and i think that i mean i'm listening to some now and i just cringe to hear all the questions. How much say just keep asking them and interrupt them when people are trying to respond and there was no context. It seems like there was no training. And i hope that there's room to provide this sort of context or background in this project to accompany some of these interviews. I appreciate how candidature being with me alice. And i'm grateful for you sharing part of your truth with me today. Is it fair to say. I hear a sense of protection in your voice. I mean i i just wonder. Do you feel quite protective over this material. I don't know if i've used the word protective. It's really up to the tribe who receive this material. What they're going to do with it and how they're going to process it and where it's going to sit. But i just them to know as much as possible about what's in there to our knowledge how it got there who did the recording just as much context as possible information to help them make a decision that's going to work for them In terms of are you hearing that in my voice that. I'm being protective. I don't know i could be entirely wrong. I might be inferring. doesn't exist. well. I think that it depends upon who listens to it and how they react to it as well. Because as i was listening to some of these. I was just struck. At the i did. He listened to one that was just holding the language which was just very and i don't speak the language my parents were two different tribes so they couldn't speak to each other so we grow speaking english But i would go and he bike in here. The tribes my dad's try. I know what that sounds like. Mother's tribe sounds like because we would go visit our relatives and just listening to the language was very comforting to me just to hear that. And now we're going to just take a short break to learn a little bit more about the nonprofit quarterly if you enjoy listening to our podcast and are looking to gain more indepth knowledge about the operating environment of the nonprofit sector. You should read the nonprofit quarterly magazine n. P. cues magazine is a trusted voice. In the sector that provides research based articles and strategies to give you an advantage in navigating the nonprofit landscape. Save twenty percents off your subscription. Today when you use the code n. Q s at nonprofit quarterly dot. Org forward slash subscribe alice. I'm wondering if we could just talk to you a little bit about language and language revitalization in particular. You know in some research that i've done read that. Linguists believed that prior to the rival of columbus there were around three hundred languages spoken in north america. And i understand that figures been cut in half by now many indigenous languages are still threatened with extinction but at the same time many reservation. There's a language resurgence taking place. And i'm wondering how if at all you see this archive project that you're involved with in the frame of native language revitalization efforts more broadly. Yes certainly but i would say that that word extinction is offensive. Oh i'm sorry. Please tell me about the l. because to be extinct is you're saying you're no longer around. Which is what a lot of museum. Exhibits did early on You know that the tribes were extinct. That's why people collected these material and to say that a language is extinct as the same sort of sense because people ancestors descendants are still living and in the field of language revitalization there is a native linguists who coined a term that says that the languages are there not more abundant. They're not extinct. They're sleeping and they can be reawakened. And we have two examples of that with the miami tribe in indiana original homeland but they recognized tribes in oklahoma. There's the Won't know iq the northeast in both of these cases. These tribes use written records that were in archives by missionaries or other people working who documented the language and they have reawakened their language based on that works that they did. There is some benefit to knowing them apology of the language of structure of the language. The rules of one's language so to speak One of our instructors is fond of saying that that just know the rules of your language to help then reawakened to recreate to understand because the fluent speakers are gone but certainly there is some language in here again. I'm not a speaker in. That was collected the sixties or seventies. So even now. I did speak to a colleague who was telling me that she had her out of the tapes before she's a fluent speaker. She said i enjoy listening to that. Because we don't hear some of those words anymore so yes. There is some potential for using this language in language. Programs definitely Alice thank you for correcting me and calling me to account with my use of the word extinction. I i learned From this exchange. I appreciate you and for me about that. And indeed. The imagery of a language being asleep of reawakening as is a beautiful way to d- to talk about it and it provides certainly a lot of hope that indeed many languages across this nation can be reawakened. Yes yeah thank you. I you know one thing. We've talked about from time to time on. This program is the role of museums. Some people refer to it as a movement to decolonize museums. That so many museums are still led by white people to very difficult for people of color to come through the ranks to get advanced degrees to work their ways into leadership positions not to mention the communities in which these museums are housed or so often left out of the conversations. Left out of the exhibits are not an integral part of the museums themselves. And there's there's a real reckoning going on with respect to race and power and museums. And i'm curious. How has your work in museums kind of changed over the years. What have you noticed about kind of the role of museums. And how thinking about the ms evolving over the years. I'm just kind of curious about that. Well it does seem that. There are some changes. But i guess. I'm an impatient percent. Because i still hear some museums wanting to know how to connect with the tribal community. How do i get started. How do we do this. And i can't believe that people are still saying that. That's just a general statement. Because i think the field is trying there certainly some excitement about treating more virtual museums that are not in a building or structure. I'm i am a museum. Goer like going to museums That's kind of interesting to look at things differently. So i think that there are some changes but in looking at it now. It seems like there's still some of the same issues that we saw when we were doing this work early on in that is the lack of training or education that people think they need to run this museum. San a seems like there's a lot of striving to try to do what a mainstream museum does. And i think that there's some interesting work going on. Tribal museums are taking control and have enough support from their communities to do things differently in to tell their stories and use their own tribal way of thinking you know put it in context even make decisions how you govern high. You set up your work. That can only be the way that your people do it. That's great that's fine but you can't find a book you can't find that no workshop leave with ten steps to do this. That's something that takes work from the community that involves even some spiritual guidance some inner voice of ancestors someone guiding you to do something different to do something new. I would love to see more of that happening. There are some but again. I think there's still a notion of. We have to be like a regular museum. And you were the first native american to service director of the american indian museum study program out the smithsonian the smithsonian. It's big it's very again. You know it strikes me as perhaps this is uninformed but in you know pretty white traditional power structure and i'm curious in your role there. What did you find yourself butting up against there. While i was working out of the office museum programs. It's no longer there. But because anime i the museum wasn't even running yet. It wasn't even been didn't having a staff. I just looked at it as this is an opportunity to help. Tribes develop their own museums and cultural centers across the country. You can learn a standard museum way of doing something on one hand and yet you have the full right and privilege to use your tribal cultural knowledge as well. They are both valid. And you can create your own way of doing things in your institution. This is the only place you can do it because museums in a way. They're so strange right. It's a whole western concept anyway. They're still that structure in that. I mean that tension out there was some tribal communities. Like why would you. What do you guys wanna museum. Why would you want that. Based on the history you know. The predatory history of museums had with collecting practices. and things. You know how they did things but because that can change. That was my goal. Desire was that he's tribes. Can change can change it to reflect ourselves. So that's the program. Iran prior to that officer museum programs had some history of working which is what there was never a tribal person managing it and i kind of saw my bosses. The people i responded to. I didn't see. It is anime. I or the sony. I saw it as such communities where i was at. That's who i'm reporting to. This is what we have to make it relevant for so i didn't really deal with that structure house out in the field a lot. It was great. And that's that job It's interesting hearing you say like that. You saw your bosses people reporting to were the native communities out in the field with whom you're interacting on a regular basis and that kind of brings us perhaps full circle to this current or project that you're working on because it seems to me when you talk about the potential we've talked about the the pitfalls in this archive all the many reasons it's problematic But there's also so much promise here it seems to me to and it seems what excites you most about. The potential of this archive is what it can do for native people themselves in communities around the country who might be able to access and utilize these archives for any number of purposes. And i'm just reflecting now having spoken to you when i was researching to get ready to talk to you. I think sometimes that might get missed in some of the coverage about this archive that i've just been reading today. that it's it's a question of who is this archive four and in some of the coverage. I think there's an assumption that it may be for all of us. Including and when i say us i mean white people and i. I wonder who you see this archive as serving. Oh yeah i definitely see it as serving the the tribes who are materialist. From you know the the people who could be their ancestors speaking it's for those tribal members That's who this is for. Really i think in my mind but the other thing to think about all the the the the press. Release the background on. This is that you know it's it's it's put out there is You know we're going to give this back to the tribes which which which that's the point of to make it accessible. But i think that you know you don't know the other side of the more you don't you don't hear about the receiving end and all the work some of this. Some of these collections are pretty small. Could be manageable. Some are quite large. And i think this idea of having the tribes weigh in on access. You know that's that's not an easy thing to do. And i think people forget that within the tribal community dynamic structure there are a variety. there's a variety of interests and priorities and getting material back. I i did sure this is a meeting with other folks Other universities. I said it could be. Don't be surprised if you hear from. This is not a priority for us right now just because some was bringing something back here we are. We're bringing you this. Drop everything work with us. Create your hierarchies have sensitivity excess goal organized and go work. That is that is a lot of work to do. And that's but that's some assumptions happening there too that that need to be at least people to be aware of so the way that i'm pursuing. This is what is what is the best way the easiest way you can't we can do to work together to make this return of material easy for you is it. Do we wait a while. Do you do you. Do you want training. Do you need to hire somebody. Can we work together to figure out ways to share resources. I don't. I'm not sure if i mean that that those are things that have to be addressed. And you certainly don't hear that. And i don't mean to be negative about this project but it is could be sort of seen like that Which is why. I i just look at a legitimate. I just think that is a lot of work to happen with the tribes when they received this and whatever we can do it on our end here arizona state museum in the university of arizona to make it easier. You know. let's do that. And i'm always in my work. I'm always trying to find those other angles that maybe are totally indirect but would be a benefit for example one of the tribes are working with. I mentioned while if is there A way that maybe at some point your tribal college students would like to have an introduction to what a digital archivists does or what a library does working with this. Can we have our team. Come in lecture. Give a presentation share. What's possible for career In this work And that's not part of the project but that's that could happen. And i think that i'm all for an little little sidebars coming up If that can help. So i just wanted to put that out there though that there is there's a lot of work and not only the tribal in but also on the on the collection end because of it was kinda haphazard some some of them have our store differently. There were catalogued differently. New people came in and did something different in terms of organization. And i think i'd. I'm hearing that some other universities have the same problem but some some don't that's the other thing they were just. They're all kind of uneven. But i just wanted to put that out there. I don't know if people are hearing the really thinking through what this means when you give something back like that especially now this day and age. It's such a fascinating an important question to be asking. And i can't tell you the number of times this very question arises through so many well-intentioned efforts across philanthropy and the nonprofit sector of seemingly. Good idea is You know running into profound questions about. Is this what the community wants is what they need this time. Is it a priority. I mean all these questions. You're asking i think are are absolutely vital to ask and i think may ultimately lead to the success of this project. Because you're having the forethought to ask these vital questions. Well here a est. I'm asking those questions. I don't know if that happened. I don't know if this happened at the very beginning as what i'm saying. If they had had. I don't know who they talk to Alicea donkey project coordinator. The american indian language development institute at the university of arizona. Thank you so much for this conversation and for your work in this vital area. Thank you amy. Tiny spark which was produced by freddie. Boswell our thanks to alyssa donkey for recording herself at home and to nick mississippi for engineering assistance. If you want to leave a comment about our podcast please. Head over to tiny spark dot org or email us at podcast at n. p. q. Mag dot org and subscribe to our podcast on any platform where you listen to podcasts. Stitcher pocket casts apple. Podcasts google podcasts. And if you like what you've heard today it would be great if you could give us a rating to help more people find out about our work also like us on facebook and you can tweet me. I'm at tiny spark underscore. Org tiny spark is a podcast of the nonprofit quarterly. Thank you so much for listening. I'm amy costello.

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Solar siblings could host extra-terrestrial life

The Science Show

06:13 min | 1 year ago

Solar siblings could host extra-terrestrial life

"That's the explosion of life on earth, but what about life in the universe? It's the drake equation, the hopes to tell you how often it may occur, and that equation has just been reset I. What is it Paul Davies? Yes, so there's something called the drake equation, and does not equation like we used to in physics, second or something like that. It's really a collection of things I'm now. When he writes it down, we really didn't do any of those terms the equation, but since and some of them have become a low clearer so the first one for example is the rate of star formation in the galaxy. We pretty much know what that is, and we now know roughly how many extra solar planets there might be! What fraction of those might be athletics? All of these things are. are becoming clear, so those are the terms dealing with the real estate. We know there's print every state on which life as we know it could survive might emerge, but just because a planet is habits of bold doesn't mean it's inhabited because in order to make the transition from non life to life, there's going to be some sort of mechanism, probably quite a complicated mechanism. We don't know what it was. We don't tents non-life into life, and if you don't know what the making is, you count estimate the odds, so you're stuck immediate at that point now they're other terms in the drake equation light fraction of planets with life would evolve intelligence, and how long civilizations might last and so on, but that's all moot, because we've got no idea whether going from non life to live is a stupendous Liam. Improbable Fluke may have happened not once in the. The observable universe all-weather happens all over the place in other words is a life principle built into the laws of nature. Wouldn't that be nice? That would make me feel very happy. If I felt. We lived in intrinsically by friend universe, but we now know that we've never discovered a life principle. We'd never discovered that the laws of physics and chemistry rigged in favour of life. They seem to be completely indifferent to life. They don't have life written. Written into them, and so this is a completely open question Paul Davies from Arizona State, university, and now all the drake equation has been reset. The University of Nottingham reveals we may have thirty six give take civilizations in our galaxy that may be in touch with this or not, and his Paul Newman also from the Arizona State University with Fred Adams in Michigan on where we might look Fred. Atoms one thing that's occupying your thoughts at the moment. Moment is the birth environment of the solar system. This idea of the solar system being born in a cluster is what's preoccupying. You will yeah. That's one of the interesting questions is what kind of environment was our solar system born in? Most stars are born in clusters, and our son is the star, so it was born in the cluster of some size, and what's interesting as you can piece together after the fact with the birth environment looked like. When you do. The projections estimate that the son was born in a cluster of perhaps three or four thousand stars, so that means that we have three or four thousand siblings there sometimes called solar siblings. The thought that you've had is that is maybe if life going one of these other stars, it could have spread around this cluster, and maybe we should be looking for the sisters and brothers stars of our son. Maybe that has something interesting to say about life. Well, that's true. There's a couple of interesting points here. One is that the birth cluster only lives for a hundred million years, and the solar system is four and a half billion years old, so all of our solar siblings are spread out across the solar circle of the galaxy, but what's interesting is with that many four thousand of them. One or two are probably close enough to the sun, even yet that we could actually take a good enough spectrum of them to figure out what their solar or metal, the city fingerprint is since the if they were really as close to the sun as we think they are, the other interesting thing is that since our solar system is the only known case where we have life? It turns out. It's easier to transfer life from solar system to solar system in a cluster, so if life arose in the solar system soon enough while we are still in our birth cluster, we could've transferred life to all of our solar siblings, or maybe the reason why we have life, and hence us here is because it was transferred to us from another one of our solar siblings, so if all of those pieces come together, one of these solar siblings that we find nearby could actually potentially have lies, but very unlikely everything well, it's probably unlikely, but we can say with some confidence is that when solar systems are born in the same cluster? The will share rocks with all of the other. Other solar systems in their cluster is kind of kids going to kindergarten where every kid serves germs with every other kid, so every solar system in the cluster will show rocks with every other solar system now whether those rocks are actually leased with bacteria or other kind of life, giving seeds, and whether they take root in the next solar system. That's much more uncertain and honest answer. We don't know but the fact that they share rocks and have the opportunity to share that we do, of course even in the very early days. When so much going on in the universe you know these stars were being born. Do you think that that would be a situation conducive to life life getting going? Well that's the million dollar. Question is how long it takes for life to get going the typical numbers that people throw around our that it takes of order a billion years for life to get going the birth cluster probably only lasted for a border, a hundred million years, which is a little bit quick, so that's a little bit of a tight race, but you never know and you never know to. You'll look. Do you think they can have any luck? Well I. Think it'll be interesting either way because if they don't find another star that has exactly the same Meta. Listen. Fingerprint is our son. They will find things that are close, and that will actually tell us something about astronomy. The big payoff of course is to find something this exactly like the sun in something that we might think of as our solar sibling, but even if we don't find that, it will be an interesting exercise. When I'm not holding out hope for this, but it's fun to think about well, certainly fun to talk about. Thank you, thank you. Fred Adams of the University of Michigan with Pauline Newman.

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CONFERENCE PREVIEW: The Pac-12 will be a three-team race and the conference could send seven to the NCAA Tournament

CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

31:42 min | 7 months ago

CONFERENCE PREVIEW: The Pac-12 will be a three-team race and the conference could send seven to the NCAA Tournament

"Hey there it's scary. It's tuesday november. Two thousand twenty. Welcome back to the cbs sports. I on college basketball. Podcast where we sometimes discuss campbell fighting and leaky black bat norrland. The is here with me. Today we're continuing our series of the top seven. Compasses in college basketball. We have already done the. Acc big ten big twelve so today. We are turning our attention to the pac twelve so listen when we submitted our ballots for the predicted order finished the pac twelve. There were five of us voting at cbs. Sports and three different schools got first place votes. I voted oregon. I jerry palm. And david cobb did the say but norlander voted arizona state. I and cow bone. He went with ucla which is of course led by second year coach. Bit cronin man who has already widely recognized as the greatest coach. Ucla let me ask you. This norlander is the pac twelve the most up in the air at the top power conference in the country. Yes we just did the big twelve on monday. And i think that's the close number two in this the closest number two but to me the pac. Twelve is the most undecided. Hey here on election day. The most undecided heading into heading into the start of the season. That would be my pick. They're like i said. I voted oregon. I jerry palm david cobb. The same norlander had arizona state. First cow boom with ucla. Let's talk about the ducks. Why are you skeptical of dana. Altman's ability to lead the ducks to league title. Even though he's done it three of the past five seasons. I'm skeptical of the ducks. Because i as i do with all the power conferences and plenty of the mid major conferences. Just take in temperature checks on you. Know three four five six coaches in each league and all over the place from a from a donut. Tribute to this to me. Thought process with coaches in the in the pac. Twelve some as high as one something as low as five. There's a lot there and there's a lot that's unknown. Who's the best player on this roster. Chris waddle probably former national junior college player of the year. Sneaky all america candidate. I think he ever twelve point nine point two five points six rebounds one point six assists in thirty minutes a game last season. Now payton pritchard's gog that's fifteen shots per game. Somebody has to take. Why not give it to a former juku player of the year. Chris duarte possible pac twelve player of the year possible. All american. i would put duarte like seventh or eighth on my list of most likely pac twelve players of the year. You mentioned payton pritchard. What that's right. You heard me disrespectful. I'm just going to the former duke. How many former. Judy college player of the year. Do you think regardless basketball right now. This guy be another one right. Always transfer up so i figured one still hanging around. I can't tell you who it is right off the top of my head but i figure this guy be someone out there right. You're lucky though isn't a trivia time because you asked me a question you know the answer to. I assume that who was the player of the year last year. Oh no was that the guy that was going to louisville then decided not to go. Can't remember chris dorte might really be the only former junior college national player of the year and at the playing division one level right now and you don't think you have him seventh or eighth for pac twelve player of the year candidacy. That's disrespectful no painting. Purchase gonna hurt organ big time. He was painting. Richard to me was definitively the best player in the pac twelve last season. He's gone without him. I think oregon's whole look on offense. Changes i still put them to because of altman and i was basically splitting hairs. I at asu one oregon to ucla three. And then i think you got. You can go to a tier two after that. I think those top three are in a class of themselves there. So you've got oregon so go ahead you explain it to me. You got the ducks one. You're disrespecting mick cronin by the way with this. I don't know how you even sleep at night. You're i don't sleep a exactly so don't don't sleep at night. Some of it is looks so much like mick cronin in wish you were actually coaching ucla. But you don't. I would love to coach. Ucla and live and westwood. Yeah he would like a long. As i can take my wife and kids with me. I would trade with mick cronin right now. I don't even know if that would have been conditioned for you. Catch me on the wrong day. I might be willing to go without him but like right now. Everything's good so i'd like to take with me. Listen oregon. I hate losing pitcher. Does if he's a consensus first team all american but they do have a former national college ruin this at the top of the roster and keep an eye on this because this surprise me just because i haven't followed it closely i don't guess figueroa still doesn't have a transfer waiver at the moment. We are speaking he still. We are in the month of the college. Basketball starts in a few weeks this month and eljay figaro's still doesn't at least it's not publicly known that he has its waiver to play immediately at oregon. He is the former saint john star. Who transfer during the pandemic. He averaged fourteen and a half points. Last season for the red storm didn't shoot it nearly as well shut thirty seven point nine percent as a sophomore shooting. Fifty one point three percent as a freshman so something happened there. Probably just shot selection stuff. But i i'm assuming and have always assumed he will be eligible and the that roster because how can you give waivers to everybody else but not the guy who decided to leave new york when you know when when hospitals were over rod to me. That was always going to be the easiest waiver ever like a. Why did you transfer young man will because People were dying in emergency rooms. All around me. I i you know. New york was locked down longer than most places. I needed to get out of there for my health. I like how do you say no to that. So i'm assuming have always assumed he'll be on the team Still assuming he'll be on the team but it is interesting at least at He doesn't he doesn't appear to have the waiver yet. yeah. I expect him to get cleared. And when he does and he's gonna make oregon better And folly dante is certainly a player to watch. I think he's the most intriguing player on the roster Center who i think will really grow as the season goes along. And then they use almond usually finds a way to get like seven reliable guys in the rotation. I expect that to be the case here. Maury hardy is a unlv transfer that is going to basically take place and how how he adapts. The i think ultimately determines how good oregon's going to be so. I tried to split. Like i almost picked oregon third. But i i. I give the benefit of the doubt there Can i talk about my team now. The arizona state sun devils new orleans. Yeah norlander had oregon. I think third. Now i had oregon too but it was too but how about time. Okay trivia time right. How many times has state been picked to finish first in the pac twelve slash pakistan slash. Paki one zero zero zero and it probably won't happen this year. I think i'm a bit more bullish than either coaches are media. I don't know how the their own different combo sometimes their preseason polls just coach sometimes it's media sometimes it's coach a media whatever it is going to be from an official standpoint from the pack twelve. I don't think that state's going to get it although it won't stunned me if it does. Because i two coaches in the league tell me that arizona state has the most talented roster in the conference. So maybe it will wind up there. How about this though to doug. Tamra the excellent. Sad out of arizona state he said in the history of the preseason polls arizona state's been pick last more times four than it has been picked in the top three or two just twice twice as many times. Asu has picked at the bottom of the league. As it's been even in the top three it gives you perspective on what hurley's been able to do here rummy. Martin is our preseason pac twelve player of the year. it's weird. I have arizona state atop the league. I think rummy martin's going to be pac twelve player of the year but he is going to be a whole hell of a lot of fun. Joshua christopher five star guy coming in arizona state is not reliably a better program than arizona. It is a gear is a lock one hundred percent. I know wildcat fans come and find me. That's fine but and you know it. Asc was this is a rare year. Where does a definite that. They will be better than their rivals. Through the south They lose romolo white because he wanted to live in mississippi. Like i do so. I mean that's ever. Tim points nine rebounds last season but they do bring back a lot of scoring. Remy martin and alonzo verge thirty four point. Roughly thirty four points per game right there. You mentioned josh. Christopher doug told you historically arizona state's more likely to be picked last in the pac twelve then top two in the pac twelve but in the past two seasons bobby hurley is finished second and third in the pac twelve. He has a team clearly. Good enough to do that again. He could be able to run here. Where arizona state finishes in the top. Three of the pack twelve three consecutive years and that is not a normal thing for arizona. State basketball bobby will assuming forever be known more as an all american incredibly accomplished college basketball player at duke that he is a college basketball coach but he is a really good undeniably. Good college best. Great college basketball coach. I asked bobby on a media. Zoom availability of almost a month ago. I said if you really step back this is your. You have not been attached to a team heading into a season with higher expectations since you play for mike. Francesca like never played for an elite level. Nba team. That was a you know a top five top six sixteen in the nba when he was on those rosters since he's coached she's just never been he's never been guiding a team like this one and He admitted he hadn't really ever really thought about it. In those terms but his level of expectation for this group is sky high. And also i will give hurley credit for this if you really go back. And look since he got to arizona state how he has not scheduled with any sort of fear regularly putting himself in a position where he's playing two or three road games in the non conference. He's gonna play up at mohegan. The the matchups haven't been determined yet. But i would think that it will be baylor villanova to start. Because why would you not put baylor villanova as the first game on the opening night of the season and then that would mean that he will play what boston college and then if he wins that or no matter what he'll play other baylor villanova in that second game and mohegan and we'll get an early sense right away like. I think it's a great thing for college basketball. Granted if we can keep those games scheduled in place as is that you can get a team from out west to come in and play against the likes of nova baylor consensus preseason top three teams there so a ton of like what they issue If you'll allow me. I'll just quickly emerge into the cronin talk with ucla. Christmas returns. I thought he was one of the five most important returnees in college basketball in the off season Spoke to someone connected to him. I mean we're talking way back in may. Gp and there was a real sense that he was not going to return that he was gonna chase that nba dream. But i do think this is the better decision for him. I actually think he'll wind up getting drafted higher in twenty twenty one because of result of coming back. I do think he's a good. He's not even a darker twin pac twelve player of the year but he's ucla's best player. They've got a lot of talent around him and mick cronin who rightfully already established and proven himself to be the best coach in the history of this of the school. And i don't want to hear anything with tyson taped by the way trying to take our cronin bit. Okay not having that at all. Okay saying the court. Exactly sam saying the tech in the court saying the court san. It's been it's been like six months heard that but yes and the court was the brood of that some guy tweeted be like yes. Yes someone what. What are they supposed to do saying. Were how you got to keep. Keep now yeah nelken. Remain on the court but sorry. John's gotta go because we can we. Can i think reasonably say nail. Wooden is the best first lady of ucla basketball in history. I think that's fair but nails husband is not the best coaching ucla history. That's clearly mick. Cronin who in his first year at ucla won the john wooden pac twelve coach of the year award. How many john wouldn't coach your awards to jam wouldn't have i. Don't think any trivia ties. Yeah zero zero mic went and got one in year one and now he's got a team coming back five scores scores back. They obviously started poorly last season. Twelve and eleven five the pac but they went seven and one in their last eight games. Eleven and three in their final fourteen games. Finish nine hundred and twelve twelve and six. They were in the league. They were projected to make the incident delayed tournament. How about this. They were one hundred and forty seven. That kim palm on january nineteenth they finished seventy eighth. Do the math on that. You know how many spots they moved up onto. Just tell the people sixty nine. That's pretty nice. So you got cody. Riley jalen hill surrounding christmas. That's a great great frontcourt really really solid. Actually it's not hasn't been often recent season for ucla. had a better front court than oregon. But i had a really good shot at the at the season tiger. Campbell's there by the way they didn't even get dacian knicks. Who decided the jayson. Nix is on this roster. I think we are in agreement Ucla's the preseason favorite we would have had ucla number one station next. What's the best point guard in that class. But he's not gonna go to. College is going to play a pro route instead so we do agree. Ucla top twenty five call quality ucla top three team in the pack twelve therefore for ucla contending for a pac twelve championship. What they did last season just it remains honestly this is not no hyperbole no joking they were eight nine and just didn't look good at all and they turn that into nineteen and twelve. And it's one of the best in-season turnaround from a power conference team. I can ever remember like it was a completely different team. Once they got to mid-january credit to cronin for that and he's got he's got the program in short order. Where i think fans were hoping he could take it and i think it's fair to say like he's a year ahead of schedule at this point so the top three in the pack twelve appear to be oregon arizona state and ucla in some order. Our preseason poll at cbs sports had stanford fourth and then usc fifth. And you'll see is interesting. Because when i think of usc. Under andy and phil i think of it feels like they're usually good but never great and i went and looked it up earlier and the truth is that that is exactly what they are usually good but never great. They've been top six. The pac twelve and for the past five seasons top five in the pack. Twelve three of the past four seasons but never better than twelve and six in the league. Indian has now been there. Seven seasons never finished better than forty ninth that kimbe in those seven seasons. But how about this in for the past five seasons finished between forty and fifty fifth in for the past five so consistently consistently good resp- consistently respectable but never great and then of course they lose the top five scores from last season's team so that's not wonderful but they do bring back isaiah mobely former five star prospect. They enroll his brother. Evan mobely five star prospect who is projected top five. Pick in the two thousand twenty one. Nba draft. he's awesome therefore transfer eligible all of whom averaged at least nine points per game with the division one level already. One of them is isaiah white. Six seven wing. He averaged fifteen points per game. Eight point five rebounds at utah valley last season. So i'm interest i. Listen i want you to see a lot. Because they have been moberly and he's great you know i'm not here to argue class of two thousand and twenty recruiting rankings. But there was a time. When i'd seen all the guys and i was like. Nobody's better than evan mobely. I remember mark fox when he was out of coaching. Briefly between georgia and cow worked of these camps. The way coaches who are out of the sports sometimes do and he was like i. We were in las vegas. You were there. We were watching evan. Mildly and mark fox said that's a future number one pick in the draft. I'm just telling you i was around him. I worked with him everyday. Great great young man but also like incredible talent. And i don't know that people talk about him as pick anymore because they mostly talk about kate him at oklahoma state is known pig. But is terrific. So you get evan. Mobely isaiah moberly and then some transfers that are at least older. Add some experience maybe. Usc can Can compete in the top three or four the pac twelve. Even though we've got them pick fifth. I think they're ceiling is fourth in their florist tenth. Some just a lotta roster turnover Great mobile i still think could potentially be the number one pick. I think that's still on the table. No doubt about it Can we'll enfield. Allow him to be a star and will they build everything around him and can he thrive and we'll usc than what's going to be up competitive. Pac twelve like the pac twelve. Last season had six teams projected to make the tournament. Refresh run those ucla usc arizona state arizona and colorado usc was twenty two and nine and was in that mix but they lost a lot there. I think the pac twelve will be a bit league and seven but probably a six bid league in a sixty eighteen tournament. For twenty twenty one They'll be there like stanford a lot more than we joked. And we had some fun with stanford last season they went two thousand twelve but it failed against the best teams played more often than not it was the best offense definitely i. I don't think there was an argument about that. In terms of its its shooting. It was shot. Fifty two percent from two point range and thirty six percent from three point range oregon was the only team that was really wis and on stanford's level in the pac twelve from an offensive production standpoint. They bring back oscar to silva. Who's a preseason first team or in the pac twelve and then we talk about his abilities. I are williams is another guy to watch with stanford freshman coming in. I think he was five. Star top ten kind of prospect. So he's not a dark horse by any means. But since he's at stanford i i just don't know if there's going to be a lot of buzz around but i'll say this like tyrel terry one and done guy at stanford last season in the program you know you had Who is it. Casey apolo went after he was a and through guy like they're starting to get good talent there. It just hasn't quite pop. This could be the pop season. I do stanford to be a top four team in the league. Jerod haase done a good job there. So i think they're strong four for me. I'm not as in on sc relatively speaking In terms of like. I think they're just a notch below stanford and then maybe they're closer to i've got colorado seven or colorado six utah seven. I think those three are closer and kind of stanford might be between the top three in the next two or three fun fact on tyrel terry so i get a text message from one of my best friend from high school back shortly after the season was over. When terry entered the nba draft and look like he's got a chance to be a a first round pick stanford and twenty one with tyrod. Terry i removed them ever so slightly after he left the program to pursue a professional opportunity. So i get a text message from like really one of my best friends from high school like we live near each other. I picked him up for school everyday. We wrote together. He was mr horne lake high school class of nineteen nine five when i graduated he said. Gp so when you talk to nba people. What you hear about my nephew unlike your nephew. Who's your nephew. And then i start putting together. My friends names qin terry. His nephew is tyrel terry about that. I got another one for you. Okay that's how about this. I go to my go. Visit my parents over the over the summer and They've got a small lake near where they're at In connecticut and i'm sitting there with my mom and then one of this woman that lives in their neighborhood who. She doesn't see that often but she happened to come down and was just hanging out and and then she goes. Oh yeah matt you. You cover college basketball. don't you. And i was like yes. I do and she goes. Oh i was talking with. Let's call the woman. Cindy i don't know her name but she's like oh i was talking with cindy and she was just going on and on about things are going so well for her son and i was like. Is this cindy one of your friend. She's like oh she's one of my oldest friends. And yes you just a but we you know. We haven't seen each other longtime 'cause. She lives in new hampshire but she was just going on. Maybe you've written about him He's playing well these days and i'm thinking like some college player like his name is duncan dunk. This woman's like one of her best. Friends duncan robinson smother. You don't you don't realize that the person you're talking about right now is like maybe the story of the summer in the nba. Right now is just insane was like oh. He's just sweet little boy doing great because dunkin you know everyone knows his path there but anyway absurd like just like so we you know. Somebody connected deduct robinson's mom. I am friends with tyrod dating back to high school. Does this make them half brothers. Just out of curiosity Maybe and we both know dylan winless uncle. That's right and and shops to casey alexander's daughter. Who was a avid listener. We're not gonna get a belmont or a preview on this dropping random stuff like that. I told casey like two weeks ago. We give a shot so they just just randomly just as simple random stories on since this past weekend on saturday morning the guys i normally play golf with weren't able to play. They were tied up with kids soccer. Or just whatever. And so i was just gonna get an eighteen by myself because my mom was watching my little guys and at my at my club online T sheet and like people can jump on with you if there's open spots and so a couple of guys jump on with me i don't. I don't know that i've never met the and one of the guys live from out of town. He was just there was his buddy. Who's a member so we're playing. You know when you play golf with strangers you end up so you know you gotta kids at the very surface level conversations so somebody says one of the guys says so. So what do you do. And i said well i i work for. Cbs sports. and i swear to god the first thing that guy said. Was you know what i listened to. What's it called eye on college basketball. Podcast do do you have any. Do you have anything to do with that. I said yeah. I got something to do with that. Get out of here. Tell me. I like on the podcast. That's the true story true story. That's that's not a good sign. Because he i mean maybe this is like the second question he asked you because he should know the voice he retired. He never he never said hold up. Hold up stop for a second. Say devon danny. He didn't he didn't didn't go there but he was. I taught him. I told him. I said i i work for cbs. Sports said well. What do you do. And i cover college basketball. And he said oh. I listened to what car do you have anything to do with it. And i said so it was mostly cow boom but i do have a little bit to do with it. He should've asked you say is here with me so we are so we're friends figured we'll be playing golf a lot. Shafts this dude i presume. He's listening to this podcast. So there we go. Where were we by the way. Oh yeah that's right pac twelve i love rant. Hey real quick colorado arizona. Who do you like more. I got arizona. I yeah i thought arizona more. But i wanted to bring up arizona because i noticed like most of us have arizona. Pack you have arizona eight. That's right in the pac twelve. You've just given up on shaun miller completely have i got arizona. Low i'm i'll i'll spoil one ranking here i put arizona seventieth in my one to three fifty. Seven is the youngest team he's ever had by far. James kinjo is going to start at point. And i liked him like he was a very fun player to watch georgetown. What's he going to have around. Got jordan brown. A transfer from nevada. Who i think has a lot of good. Potential miller broaden i think six players with international backgrounds. The best is a lithuanian big zula's to bayless. I'm in a butcher that name. I don't know this pronunciation. But i think he's the best one. They're just so young and inexperienced. I'm selling i got. I got him eighth. And i have them as as the bottom tier of the league. We're not gonna spend time on the on the bottom teams i've got arizona than washington wazoo cow oregon state. I don't think any of those teams are going to compete to make the tournament. While the teams above them i will squarely in the mix like utah. colorado. I'm just not seeing it with the wildcats this year but i'm on an island pretty much. Because you kyle boone kyle. Porter jerry palm all had arizona top five. I don't see a militia and a great job easily re proven to be wrong but I think this is a huge step acura. also thing. it's it's indicated by like arizona. It's scheduled nothing but like mids lows and non conference not playing one tough team. That can cause i think miller knows. He just doesn't have a good squad and And you want to get winds to get momentum and morale up so that when you get into the rigors of the league maybe you can use as an onramp. I'm not in on the welcome. Her sean has only finished fifth or lower in the pac twelve twice in eleven seasons. So that's awesome. Here's the pro. Here's the problem. It was two seasons ago and last season. It's the past two seasons that he's done it know he was top four in the pac twelve in each of his first nine seasons. What at least to share the league title in five of his first nine seasons and then obviously scandal hits book richardson's go mark. Phelps has gone. Who knows where learn l. is these days. Everything has gotten tougher for him and he's also carrying around a stigma. that's attached to him fairly or unfairly. It's there and so you talk about a situation. That has really been flipped upside down at least kansas. Kansas going through something very similar. Kansas is still awesome. Without exception you know arizona for one reason or another has really slipped in in recent seasons in. This doesn't look like it's going to get right season. I it's the truth is probably gonna be somewhere in the middle. They won't be as good as five. Might not be as low as eight as i've got him. But i also like to take the occasional chance here Colorado i've got him six. You got him seven. I've got seven. You've got utah nine. can you explain. We'll get to colorado second. How are you that low on utah. Why do you like them because ryland. Okay timmy allen really. Really solid. Ryland jones again. Sometimes it's a function of having to track all the freshman ryan jones is probably the most efficient freshman. Not realize was really really good last season and so they have a lot that listen gosh is gone. That's what i was gonna say you're going to bring this up. I knew you were going to bring this up. It's not nothing. But i still think that the talent on the whole with utah. I mean he's got seven got legitimate minutes last year. Returning in addition to four. I think four starters are back. I think gosh is the only one. That's not returning to allen. Ryland jones are awesome. So i'm just. I just feel like they are squarely in the mixture but again i'm not gonna fault like i'm going to be that low on their own i'm not going to critique you for that but i did look at it and they were one fourteen and sixteen fifteen last season. I feel like they're going to make a big jump. But you don't necessarily fair. But i just wanted to point out. That was the one clear seller on you Like using washington's better. I'm not seeing it here. Here's what i was saying. I'm being completely honest. I feel pretty strongly about one through six in some order. Those teams being organ. Ucla arizona state stanford arizona and southern cal and then seven eight nine. I could also put them reasonably in any order. Those teams colorado washington utah. I happen to have them in the order that i have you others can have them. I think they're all the same caliber team. So i guess. If i were trying to break the pac twelve into tears i i'd probably go. Tier one is oregon. Ucla arizona state tier to stamford tier three arizona and then tier four colorado washington utah tier five cow oregon state washington state. That makes sense. It does let me get a quick word in on the bus. Because i do think that mckinley right the fourth first of all. He's probably the only the fourth in college basketball. Hey listen our listeners. Know their stuff and if you know if another player who is currently playing that the fourth. I want to know about them. We give them shouts on the pod. Evan gattis back. Tad boyle is scarily consistent. They won twenty one games last season. They will be better. I do think this is a tournament team. The season yeah. i'm in on on them and mckinley. Right is your darkhorse. Pac twelve player of the year. He i think he's just. He's going to be due for hugh season so the patch will have the point. Is this like if we had to preview. To three years ago we would struggle to make make a compelling for thirty minutes but this year like you really do have a lot of really good teams talented teams. The bottom of the league is just the bottom of league. You can't avoid that but at least it's not an situation where it's like. Can we even get to four that make the tournament. That's not going to be a problem at all this season in fairness we only got to this minute mark because you told a duncan robinson story and i talked about one of my best friend from high school and the guy who knows us from our golfing partner. So but we got there. That's the point cells to devon danny shells to chester south carolina. Terry fatigue alleged chest akin terry. My high school classmate tyrod. Terry's uncle helps to larne. Thank you guys to listen to. Once again to the college basketball podcast and the dumbest pandemic i have seen dumbest pandemic. I haven't been a part of if you're not subscribe jeff. Please go subscribe anywhere. 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Arizona State Has Been Considered - Week 13, Reviewed

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Arizona State Has Been Considered - Week 13, Reviewed

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That is what it is on this show because it just started. That is the worst thing I said. Today is I called Spencer Bloomington and well right before he started recording. So that is Corey's version of the shutdown full cast team. Hey thank you corrie. I come up for a guy named Corey. I know you've really overcome some adversity. The Name Department there. I'm glad you have a little bit of jazz in your soul. I have none absolutely none if you WanNa know what music my soul lacks in entirety. It's jazz when I hear it. I'm like I don't even recognize is that is music. This is the Internet's only college football. PODCAST you're listening to it We we are a production of Banner Society Dot Com on the first shot us out. I will take another twinkie for doing the bare minimum of what I'm supposed to be doing after the show that will top off. That'd be my second dessert tonight because I tried something that I had been looking forward to trying for at least three weeks when I found out that existed. That's right. They have cheesecake at cookout. Its way down in the lower right corner of the menu but they have cheesecake and I try to and you know what. I'm really glad that there's authentic North Carolina cheesecake in Atlanta to be had advantages. Take it's true. The home of of Gene Iger Base Vinegar Base cheesecake or all of forty five cents. It's like three hundred eighty calories and they'll put anything you you want on it that they put it in a way you can get a chicken tender cheesecake you probably you probably could. Can I get a case of dea with cheesecake and then another case. I'm put it. Yeah you can get a cheesecake case of IRA era and I I will report back and tell you that it is delicious because this cheesecake you can. I don't know I'm just. I'm just happy before we did this. podcast that you were like yes S.. On splits dairy up the let me make sure that. Make sure that he's GonNa make sure that he's good at deranged before he he gets on here. If you are person who can eat an entire cookout trae and then eat a piece of cheesecake. You might be Viking. You might be a high lookout trae. It's tiny Hiney Komo or you might. You might be twenty to come on a you. Push that to cookout trade. You're on the snake diet right. You just eat like you'll eat like twenty five hundred calories at once the not eat for two days right I have I. Yeah Yeah I have yes like I eat like a caveman and in the Silicon Valley. dorks came along. And everyone's like Oh if you if you do that then you know you you are. You are a tech libertarian warlord and it's like fuck. They've ruined that too. So now I gotta go back to eating three square meals just so everyone Knows I'm not like a Weirdo. Trying to turn their blood you you work on the Internet. Nobody watches what you eat. You can just say you're eating performing I'M GONNA lie about eating. Yeah Okay Yeah Yeah okay. I'll say no. I'm being very very good normal. Twitter live. I'm eating three square meals. Definitely the eating eight hundred frozen Tuxedos at once for the week. Yeah definitely not eating one large meal and then not eating a meal later. Then I'd be ill on. Musk do I hate that guy what I try to do. Is I try to simulate the Caveman chasing of a large animal and devouring of it and then days a famine after that. So what I do is I make an enormous or Mus elk out of Tuxedos and then attack a lid and edith my lawn. And that's how I got the idea for cyber truck cyber truck Our sponsor tonight selling animals made of cheap frozen goods. So you can simulate the thrill of the hunt without any of the unnecessary blood gore. Does cyber truck remind anyone else of the Texas longhorns in the like every way go on like like way too expensive does it work arrive with much fanfare for no clear reason with lead Mukasey way too much money like like you. You can't even own it in Texas because you're to poor. Delivery will be delayed several years. Yeah it'll get here when it gets. It's here it's super tough. The you know. Throw throw a youth if you throw a rock named named Kansas state at it right Baylor at the window and We'll fix that. Don't worry that won't happen next year at the very time again and again I am I am. I'm looking by the way at our actual show notes. We do have show notes. I think this is the this is the fourth week in a row. We have shouts. We always have shown us I I make them and then they always get roasted as if they don't exist. I make the shots shots every week. It's actually might be the third time Spencer's looked at the show. Now I think is what he's unintended. They didn't exist for a look at them three weeks ago. That's an object permanence I. This is my long way permanent. This is my long way of saying that I wanNA T- holly up for the only news that you need remember. We will discuss what happened in the week. That was in college football. This is not August. Save on your part but no no but okay save or not before you before you do before you do. I WanNa tell Jason Ivaylo personal advice for Jason and I understand on a personal level the urge to take credit for the work that goes into I need you know. We'll only backfire so now. First Time in history that anybody has blamed Jason for anything going on this podcast. I kind of run as well. The thing is so so Ryan will always be blamed. Blame for audio. Whether it's Ryan's fault or not. Now what I would like is for any time. The show is appears to not be hewing to a specific path. I want to be considered my well. We're both fucked congratulations. No I'm joking because there was like what was it I think it. It was like bud saying like I can't believe they do this without a plan at all and it's like well kind of I mean we have sketched marks. And I I do I do this again. I would just revise every holly has the right attitude here if anybody's ever like hey. I think Holly's holidays at Fault for the forecast she'd be like I'm blaming under switch clearly are not fuck face no no. It's okay because the the one dude in our read it who was convinced that I had undermined everything. Last year has now moved onto Richard in the weird it. Anyway I have some news go on rutgers week continues for the fourth worth straight week so is workers banner society. It's rivaling Scott Frost Day. I know it's up there with Scott for stay right. Records Week. Continues continues on with the revelations by reader. Jeff Amy Ethic this is his name. He's got dude and a lady in his Abbey so I hope that he is not sharing a twitter account with your girl. That's weird. Don't do it but after Ryan's Unholy unveiling last week of the existence of Rutger's chief of Police Kenneth Cop Jeff. Amy Brings was this week The user county yet will go. Yeah Zoo zoo Mississippians you can reach me at thirty thirty eight Godfrey he's one of you and I don't know they already do that. They do the fifty and while you're screaming at any Godfrey about other things yell at him again for not learning media better anyway. I'm driving. This governor was the one who told. Oh miss this just keep matlock. I have it on on record. Alan Happen Anyway. Yeezy County Mississippi Has a sheriff. The sheriff's name is Jake. Sheriff you can see his web a page on County dot net slash sheriff in which contains a note. The note is signed Jake Sheriff and underneath that it says says sheriff. So he's Jake. Sheriff Sheriff Sheriff here is one of the saddest things about this. He is Google Jake Sheriff because I was like Oh. He hasn't put a picture I wonder what he looks like. There is a famous cricket player named Jake Sheriff in stand he can't even he's the undercover. Take Sharon yes see he should he should fall in love with Kenneth Cop they should get married and then he can be J.. Jay Cops Sheriff or Jake Sheriff calm. I think it's Jason named Yeah. They can name their first child. Deputies the dog's name is senator or major major. Sheriff Cop I I want to make like a database or something of the world's most metal gear names in real life like I think I think the most metal gear football name I've ever seen as Puma. Pass ask Louisville quarterback. Yeah you got you got a wild animal and then you got the guys job right. It's holly brought up. The chase. Young is also a very good of nominative. Determinism we're about the snow slack and we were trying to figure out if he's casinos. We love football players whose names are simple sentences. We were trying to figure out if chase young is the only player whose name is also simple sentence that is also as onfield mission and where it nothing quite eight fix you know you can't. You can't quite have the kicker whose name is blue in there because his job is not to blow it but then somebody hit upon one that we had not actually considered Orlando the pace. Ha Yeah of close still. Let's go chase young much like anyone else playing football right now. You're not as good as ACL. Jake share this concludes rutgers week for today tune back in next week for records week. Jason Jason. God that's four voting records. We hit now for something completely different. Let's talk about teams that are going to bowl. Yeah actual- actual. Yeah so we're trying this thing early in the show a Redo Promo zone where we remember really tone the promos on Liberty Bowl where we remember to actually talk about our work like they do a professional podcast like ESPN. Holly of course is A proponent of wreckers rental things rutgers such as Mississippi Sheriff's I'm a life. Yeah so I wanted to mention in the the bowl projections page that. I update each Sunday morning. At better site comes Tuesday Tuesday nights these days How I am still clinging to the notion that the Utah utes are right in this thing? Despite organ losing which to me is a stupid fucked up reason to discount Utah from the race because they beat the team that beat Oregon meaning there should be no value lost or gained from this in that they beat both sides of the equation. What laws that that like matter can neither be created or destroyed? Godwin's law the universe. Jake sheriff's like sheriff COPs slaw They only law acknowledged. Jake Sheriff's law the Universe Universe cop there. That's there at least three three of my science teachers that I know listen to this. This is called the confirmation of mass energy. It was just on the Seventeen eighty five. Do not add me as part of the work of Dr Jean Claude Van Damme better known as time COP. y'All Oakridge don't yell at me. Don't spy read or to hold burleigh affect episode one It's called Murphy's law. I'm good. I'm good yet. It states that actually that all matter is created by Nazis on the moon. Yeah it also just like it just like any college. Football argument involving Oregon burned or getting burns called the Mallard reaction right. Yeah Yeah Yeah sure. Yeah I just wanted to say listen Oklahoma. You thought you know you you thought Oregon going down this great time for you to jump Utah. How about you beat somebody by more than four points? Well absolute for you before you go and go and draw down on Obama. I appreciate tate. Oklahoma being incredibly entertaining but the steps. Stay out of the way you've got this. Let's leave this to the utes in Seoul playoff thing. That's all that's all I wanted to say. So you're saying we need or we need Oklahoma to be somebody by more than four points. It'd be it'd be nice. Have I got a game for you. While they could beat them by two points very true that could could beat him by three points could beat them by eight points. Just never know what you're GONNA get. When it comes to bad-loan there are at all the rivers looks for Oklahoma? The most the the most overly branded game all football total anarchy which is saying something for Oklahoma which is saying something. Something for a game named after famously corrupted horrific mental institution what the The other the thing I wanted to from of ours is a FCS playoff record. Hey Division One has a football play-off of more than three games It starts parts this next week. It's great well this this week won't be great but the rest of it will be great. You Watch a lot of it. It's better than the fucking Arizona Bowl and whatnot and and finding out better not better than the Banner Society of course not better embarrassed side in New Mexico ball that could have a team as good as Western Kentucky in it so yeah man they they beat Arkansas. So big gotta be gotta be. Yeah they gotta be really good back. That's a former southwest conference team brother so our coverage to this point of the FCC playoffs bracket Featuring the official FCS team of the shadow forecasts kennesaw state owls who stepped down this year but still have the son of Rick. Steiner is a defendant one's greatest fullback though in the rock for us. The schone back what we did what we did is we made hit a mascot fights bracket and I wanted to rent the real quick. We send it out on twitter earlier and it was going on in the newsletter Monday morning. I wanted to have y'all pick the. Let's let's say it goes to chocolate. We go to the elite with just the seeded teams are in the final eight. I wanted to run through these matchups with y'all all right. Okay based on seating if you give extra extra bonus army sized to the higher seeded teams we would have for instance twenty four North Dakota state bison would be facing seventeen bears from central Arkansas who you got Bison Yeah I can't I can't pull against the bison it's also a numbers advantage which is important when you're animals. Are that big. Yeah how how how. How battered the Dallas Cowboys At that point because I think that affects how angry the Central Arkansas Arkansas payers. Yeah well they lost today. Yep All right then give you the bears next up the other side side of this bracket we have twenty one hornets from Sacramento State Against Twenty Montana. State Bob Cats. Not that many Hornets now. It's not insufficient sufficient. Hornets like a handful. An insufficiency of Hornets. I'm GONNA I think they will kill one of the Bob cats but I don't think they'll get him but only they'll only kill one of the cafe converge on One. Bob Cat are Hornets. One of our Hornets one of the ones where they can only sting once no they can sneak. Oh yeah they reload with Orna and their meanest shit. They're GONNA my girl one of these Bob cats but I I liked this is also the Charlotte. NBA NBA game. Somehow they're going. Here's that's how does the Bob can't kill Hornet. It eats us. What's going to kill a Hornet? You swatted goodwill are these a big. Listen I'm just. I'm going Hornets because they can reload and I know cats and do you know what cats do not have stick to witness. They don't the minute cats. Cats cats are many things they are lethal. They are quick majestic right smart powerful but do you know what they are not gritty cats are not gritty cancer compelling argument. Yeah they sleep sleep like like twenty three hours a day. You know what a Hornet does how. Yeah it's one of the panthers got one good quarter at of y'all what a Hornet does all day long contemplate murder. That's all they do. Okay we have but this has to sleep deep a hornets the cat. It's just. It's just contemplating Hornet is going to execute on it at some point so I'm going Hornet. This is this is a good argument. I'll go hornets. Thank you nicely argued on the other side we have twenty three Royal English bulldogs from James Madison University. Eighteen Eighteen Jack. Rabbits from South Dakota state of a Christmas. Carol is Samantha. These these these bulldogs are gonNA have a heart attack exactly. Suzy seems easy for Jack. Rather curious from WOFFORD twelve religious nine great Danes from Albany. A southeast is Louisiana. Lions Nineteen Grizzly bears twenty two cats eighteen jackrabbits and once Lewke from Southern Illinois. They didn't they didn't make it. They were damaged everyone. No no no no I think with Spencer's referencing as they were the snub team. Everyone off about hip figure finger on the pulse as usual. I like this matchup because like I think the Jack Rabbits when I know that grab it is big and tough and mean that. Yeah those his hind legs got you. Yeah I mean one bulldog will get like like three bulldogs will get one Jack Rabbit and the rest of them are going to kick the crap of them and give them heart attacks. They're GONNA make Arctic heartaches loans bulldog score point. Here also they're royal bulldogs so they're like People do this for us. Yeah Yeah I think Jack Records might just run the bulldogs to death like. This may not involve any hand-to-hand caught a paw combat whatsoever. Well A bulldog team rendre sleeping in slowly. No no stopping is we're GONNA do this. Talk J. M. You that's all twenty ready to wildcats from weaver. State Versus Nineteen Grizzly bears from Montana. You're grisly bears. This seems this seems Grizzly bear annihilation slaughter auto part of the bracket where I'm like. I don't see how we can argue wash match. Okay so in the let's see the semi-finals as we have twenty. Four Bison from North Dakota state against a handful of Hornets from Sacramento before we before we continue on the bracket. Can I throw in one upset possibility that would raise a very interesting specter. which is if the seventeen bears from central? Arkansas meet the Nineteen grizzly bears for Montana and they would have to do so in the final they get that far. We got a simple. Why would why isn't it just simple math? Nineteen there's versus the grizzlies binker. Yeah Grizzlies are bigger. I'M GONNA go. I'M GONNA go at the Grizzly bear. Oh there's blackberry. Yeah Yeah they're regular black bears so the grizzlies have like a hundred pounds lower. I may or may not have thought about a bear versus bear combat a lot one day and FCS school realizes this is how we pick the FCS bracket and changes their mascot. Where they're they're like we're the Mecca elephants? Now Fuck you MEK elephants with helicopter blades. On them where we're the yonder from marvell powerful hold infinity. Because he has his own universe any makes makes makes like iron man fight ironman his own universe central. Arkansas got themselves as a gray field they just might any. I mean the Hornets can like damage. The Bison I guess yeah are they even GonNa notice though get him on the nose or other honestly their skin so thick and they encounter stig and stuff all the talk now exactly. Yeah so insensitive. I mean this. Is this kind of thing where the Hornets like. They get credit for finishing the game but like they don't actually score you know. I don't know something like that. Bison win that round Oh God God okay. Eighteen jackrabbits against Nineteen grizzly bears Grizzly bear nicest grizzly bears. No bears will just wait the rap. The rabbit ears are never going to outrun a Jack Rabbit. This is not game and I will tell you why not game that goes into zero eero zero. Yeah because bears bears. Won't chase the Jack Rabbits Jackrabbits can't bears It ends with it ends with a kick. And that's the grisly kicking the Jack Grab it. And that's the jacker which has the most powerful hind legs while proportionally but not directly. Yeah I'm going with the bears. I don't know man. I go to go on Jackrabbits Ryan hit Ryan. Who Got Grizz grizzly bears reports? If you if I went to a child and I was said. Hey we're going to put eighteen jack. Rabbits in one thousand nine grizzly bears into an arena. Because it's fun. They'd be like don't do that. That's brutal what's wrong with you. 'cause they'd be like the Jackrabbits to David Saker Oncological Ryan Uncle Ryan. The jackrabbits are too good at kicking and special teams. That's true with children. Can I give you. The jacker is going to be morale this before. Are we before we get this to the next match-up let me just say you. Said Nineteen Grizzly bears at my first thought was. Oh God. That'd be horrible. Nineteen grizzly bears is the definition of thing. I don't need in my life. So there's like. Yeah there's nineteen grizzlies outside. What do I do? That's the a bed linen side. You live inside now put on a poverty than what they'd like to drink. Get out the old Banjo washboard. I I understand. They're fond of jamborees. Clearly a jug band waiting to happen. What's your right of a come one of them you have? You're already halfway there. Yeah I've I've seen yourself and bare yourself in bear sent. That's what they do in the movie. I've seen that movie literally and it doesn't end well for me. It is great a lot of a lot but a lot of it goes well before that. Oh yeah the guy from Star Wars made a made a movie about that. Movie is a lot funnier than the star wars. The guy from yeah I saw him in Star Wars and everyone was excited about it so I looked them up and it was like Oh cool. He made a bear movie. I I hope somebody is very confused. And it's like Billy Dee Williams bad. These bears are the smoothest bears in the forest. Could Cope Fan your final. We have parental four twenty four bison versus nineteen in Grizzlies Texas. If the JACKRABBITS AREN'T GONNA get him I don't think anybody will. Yeah I'm I'M GONNA go with I'm GonNa go it pains me because I love the numbers to close their and Bison eight got claws. Yeah but they work together. Bears aren't big on. They really ask. Ah The mascot. That really like tigers is the Tigers of the only mascot that really's list respectfully think that your bias is clouding your vision. The bears to though I do. I'm very fond of bears. Powell sick Spencer's bear privilege once again doesn't mean what you think. It means Grizzly. Oh it would be grizzly man. Wouldn't it grisly manner. Don't I will. Actually I will go and say that I'm GonNa go with I'm GonNa go with the Bison because they're gonNA survive bears. They're at the top of the food chain. You know what happens to those at the top of the food chain. They're dependent on those below them in if they worked together they can survive and overthrow so. Yeah gone by. I gotta go. Grizzly bears still may nineteen of outside. Like I can't come to work today. Why nineteen bears What yesterday were eighteen? Also so a AH DOT COM Cox. They're bears on it. Bears on the moon spoiler alert for the newsletter. which which is already out of the time you hear this recording? I'm picking the Bison for the reason Spencer said teamwork. Yeah but I don't we just cover. FCS It's it's like better mascots. I say this all the time. Yeah I would I would love nothing more than to ignore all of you know what would not the issue if we discovered FCS our inability to get the PAC twelve network. Yeah that's true well. We couldn't in in some ways. It'd be a more accessible. I was going to say we would. That's that's really true. We've admits at least one or two of FCS's victories over if bs every year. Yeah Oh man we yeah weird I heard fs. 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PAC twelve championship was eliminated At least a couple of weeks ago and less miles and or Mack Brown make a bowl game Mack Brown and UNC dominated Mercer to get to win number five So if they can beat. NC State in their last game of the year. This one will cash as well. Yeah I only want to say that again. Thank you Corey for the theme music for the shutdown full jazz version of the shutdown full. Cast the Billy Dee Williams in here in nineteen bears playing Jazz Colt forty forty five. When you're in the woods here are forty five five and my Colt forty five and this bear is consumed forty forty five Colt forty? Five's feeling bear the bears lakes booze. That's if if there is the yeah the bear would be playing the flute. Thank you billy dee. Also this week I believe coming up. I'm I'm going to have a piece on banner. Society Dot Com which picks I think I wanted to talk about the cruelest rivalry and olive college. Football the one that is currently early and I think the most nightmare streak of complete dominance by one team over another in varieties of punishing ways that There blowouts Ne'er are close games and then there are ones in between and then there are long periods of nothing but pain and suffering for one party in this particular rivalry That is coming coming up this week and it will be about the Virginia Tech. UVA rivalry is photoshop involved. Of course. Because I'm an artist also this week making it. Even more cruel there are stakes. The winner wins the division in very likely the orange bowl bid. I know how this is going to go Virginia's GonNa all right. Let's agree right now. Virginia will have the lead in at least third quarter. Oh sure and Virginia Tech will win win. Yeah but did you genius win. I think they're stuck in one of the cycles. Where where it's GonNa come in close and then they're going to lose by seventeen right share I? I'm GONNA go with. It's incredibly low scoring so the only postgame story is foster like Virginia. Your best store your best story end like your best team in like ten fifteen years. All anyone remembers does that you got you know bud foster healthy three points. Also both teams are trending in exactly the wrong direction for. Uba To have any hope in this whatsoever just in terms of overall play I think UVA was playing a little bit better earlier in the year. certainly probably a little healthier at Virginia Tech meanwhile we were going to fire just in Flint Day. Five weeks ago right he was finished. Dunn's Oh and now it's yeah. Yeah Yeah I don't know Kinda get this thing turned around. You know it's a robbery like this should have sort of a cash. The briefcase element where it's like one or the other can say now. Strike Jack. No because Virginia would be all like this briefcases Nice Nice enough my dad's briefcases way Shinier than this real leather. My briefcase holder. Charles has Louis Place this briefcase among other cases you may you may know him Charles. Pet Charles briefcase meanwhile Virginia Tech everytime time. UVA wants to do this. Is that clip that people use on twitter the WWe response home at a player in Virginia checks briefcases full of roast beef briefcase metal. That's cash the lunch pail. That's what's in it this whole time time. That's not supposed to be like enticing right. That's what's going to. It's got Mike London Soul in it. That's what's going to happen is going to unveil what bud bud foster's hadn't all those years he will reach in and pull out a rusty gun. It's what do you think bud foster author we're GONNA come to the stadium strapped. He seemed trouble is a chicken fried. Good it's delicious. Frank Beamer I ah what he has inside of. It is another lunch pail. No just ever smaller lunch. ENJ- pails just into infinity. If God but foster got the secret of the universe it's just in the smallest of those lunch pails and you have to open all them. No one's ever done it without going mad. That's the end of our intro and now it's time to discuss the college football Saturday that just occurred. I'm told that I need to say something about another coach that we were GonNa fire at all season. Come now now hang on. I know I'm using it to tell us about two large point because I don't want to focus on his game either I I did. Not Watch Saturday's Tennessee football contest. I don't I as as our friend of mine. Says of the Atlanta Falcons. I have that poisoned. I've got that poison out of my system and today I happened to catch a replay. I was doing many other things getting ready for Thanksgiving and I I was walking back and forth and I would just catch snatches of sound and I walked through and this game was being called by Jordan Rogers who I cannot remember if he the one the Bachelorette and Tom Hart he was so sure and Tom Hart whom you may know as a former Atlanta braves person who I have. I've always thought to be a generally sensible and good humored sort of person so I was extremely confused when I was walking through and I thought I heard him say Red Hot Tennessee. Well that's weird. That's probably a visual time. And I just kept on walking and the not thirty seconds later I cut back the living room and I swear to whatever long dead now awakened Egyptian gods. You WanNa put before for me. That one of them said Tennessee was the hottest team in the League now. I don't know if they meant. FBI FOOTBALL I. I don't know if they met the SEC. I don't know if they went the SEC east but all of those things are wrong and it's not even the hottest team in the state. No no so anyway. Then I turned the game off but apparently we won. Why is this happening factor after one? Do we have what what on earth kind of smoky blindness has has said here factor one. The same thing happens every single year. Tennessee schedule is historically frontloaded. His hail her act and Obama in Alabama forms. A kind of fulcrum tennis you schedule. which generally has Florida and Georgia? And at at least one like serious ish non-combat opponent of Front and back scheduled invariably includes Vanderbilt and Kentucky and some weirdly Lee overmatched little team correct and with the addition of Missouri and Missouri. Being rather weak this year saved no no this year in particular it does bolted. The schedule at Mizzou is not quite as strong as they have been very far MHM So with that. People always forget. The Tennessee manages to The second semester of year always a much easier for slowed very helpful helpful. While it's a it's good bad right because it's it's never it's never boded well for early season games because Getting up to speed in week three for Florida has historically been very tough for this team but also in the back half of the season when the team is limping and half Komo injured just like most other teams it enables you to cover that up in coast on down to a nice little music city bowl and that's one thing is it's one thing I've one reason. I believe this many bowls as it has because it's pretty easy to escape into the the belks or the outback. Or whatever when your last four games teams are not a cakewalk. But about his cakewalk. Is You'RE GONNA get this conference. Yeah Anyway I was kind of visual with steam rising off ahead of smokey. It's not the thing that annoys me about this. This kind of thing. Whenever it happens with any team is that people forget about expectations nations? Like the reason everyone theorized that Jeremy Pruitt was going on eighty sixth over. All that is that the back half purpose schedule was lighter. Everyone knew this was the case. So when it happens we will have to be surprise. You know we don't have to like overly praise Tennessee for winning too easy games. We knew all along long that these were these games so great when you come into the season when you say this team should be ten in two or five and seven or whatever and you look up there. Nine into or five and six. Don't act surprised is D- And I thought this was GONNA be three nine team. That now has the potential to be Chad. Eight one team if it gets. I don't know the belt bowl or something but the bat is as Jeremy Promise. But you but you've hit the nail on the head like with a reason. Why in some circles Tennessee is a hot team or Jeremy? PRUITT is coach of the year candidate. Who is that? It's because lots of us the thought they were GONNA be three or four win team and they're probably GonNa win seven but then we are going to be a three or four win team because they lost fucking Byu in Georgia state. That happened during the season season. That's true pruitt's fault I count but but sometimes the best way to make yourself look good later is the fuck up early. I think that that fuck up in twenty eighteen and then you're good in two thousand. Nineteen you get credit for the bounceback do it during the season. I'm sorry you just had had an okay see. Here's the kind of hit upon what's really bothering me right now. This is a team that is very used to fucking up early in the season at Florida and Georgia tonight. Goddamn Georgia state at home. Yeah I mean there's no giving you don't give somebody the coach of the year. You don't give somebody in award for fixing the problem. They created anyway. I I adore. I Adore Tom Art. Don't yell at him online. I don't have any feelings about Sir and I have never bought into. I don't think that the producers were whispering in this broadcasting teams ears ing the shirt pump up Tennessee football. Well I am concerned that their drinking water has been dosed with something and would like them to be screened by medical professionals The good news is his for week. Two next year. Tennessee plays at Oklahoma. Fuck me I'll go great. What what we? What if we? What if we bailed out in the SEC east and talked about Arizona State? Hey acid that's right. Let's talk about a real a real team. Let's talk about a real football double team an actual red hot team a team. That has the same record. Is Tennessee a flaming hot to you and the same record is Texas. We should say much or or Illinois funnier or or Washington or Liberty or Charlotte or Illinois to the Charlotte Forty niners by the way live a full cast. Attendees now possibly going to the. I don't Know Bahamas Bowl or something Charlotte you have. The same record is Washington and they went to the playoffs. You're as good as the Texas. Longhorns I I I try. I'm trying to say that as a compliment on a per capita basis their way better yeah Arizona. Estate that is Oregon failed to consider. You never never fail to consider Arizona State del. If if you want to know by the way the one moment where this game completely turned and got competitive Dave competitive was Arizona. State stopped Amata fourth and one and I am so loath to praise this moment because it is exactly the kind of moment that defense I coaches love. Love and insist make things happen and it's the one that people who are very very conservative would also point to that you went for. You didn't take the points you went for it. Yeah they should have gone for it and yeah relying on your defense work for wants for Edwards but you know what else Arizona State did they pass for like nine thousand yards words. Don't look that up. Yeah Dan Daniels is out there dropping dimes man. Yeah and like the thing with the pumps this to me if I watch like an NFL. Coach some dumb ass. Like Dan Quinn or if I watch you know like one of the college coaches who it's like. This is a great Recruiter you know when they make the stupid stupid punt call. I'm like Oh this is dumb. This is dumb when herm does it man I know he believes in it. I know he is putting his soul into that point. And I'm like yes. Yes I yes. I'm right there with you. It's like when Rod Gilmore says. I would point here. I'm like God dance light. That's your that's your that's in your mirror can't change ensure you are that's right. Yeah that's right you like. I know this is the wrong idea but I know you believe in it. Let's do it. Yeah I know you think that you're actually kicking so much as when you the punt there right. Like it's kind of the counter. Leroy Jenkins you G Roy. Lincoln's what are you doing. Stay right here. Waiting orders disconnect and it's when somebody folds poker so hard they like slammed. I am the cards through the table right. What do you think you're it? You're the Dragon. Leroy Jenkins attacked night. y'All show aggression. I'll just wait for you to come to me. This was a game by the way. We're just in Herbert Baid. Some made made some really weird throws. I don't even say like bad throws because bad throws imply. Excuse me future Denver Bronco just a giant Jackson Shave a quarterback you say questionable decision making also huge. All I can. They are joke about accurate. Which one of Y'all said it about John elway takes one look at? It's all quarterback says. Wow this guy is almost as tall as me is maybe like a seven five. The quarterback has seven five and three hundred and five pounds and he would go man that guy almost as big as John. Elway elway like John. Do you think John Elway believes that John elway as the size of an actual rocky mountain I do. I think like if filling out ormsby as a very specific form of body this morph. Yeah I'm going to pull out a very deep cut here but have any of you ever read to the very end of the CS Lewis Chronicles of Narnia series series. Guess for a longtime okay. Do you remember the Non Aslam lion the second lion vaguely. There's this there's the second lion who shows up at the last battle who's not aslam at all this lion does is run around and be like I'm alliance like Aslam and did you know did. And he's like visibly smaller not as glorious as as land but He's like hey me and aslund him and me US lions anyway. John Elway John Elway a John elway on jeopardy under the category mountains. For eight hundred it would be. It would be the tallest mountain in Colorado and he'd be like who is me. It was John Elway. John elway really John. Hey John put your put some in personal information on here okay. Gender Mega Zord large. Ah I don't need a big and tall store do tall tall stored that's brock is will brock osweiler's the second tallest mountain in America. Next to you may. This was the that's he is in altitude because he was so used to walk around with his own elevated skull. That's the the thing with Justin Herbert in this game I just made weird throws man not even like bad. Were you thought. Oh well we saw this in the instead did this now. No He's like his picks just I duNno. Donations right. Wanted to make it make it spicy. Wanted to make it interesting through it right to the defense. Not Dot net. Not a game. He will want to remember a game. So weird and bad that Announcers during the game. We're saying yes today. Probably cost him some money which yeah. It's very perverse way to look at things. It's none of our jokes. None of our jokes have come close to the funniest real thing that happened associated with this game. That's after the final whistle Oray when herm Edwards when Herm Edwards at the at midfield handshake says tomorrow crystal. Good luck in the playoffs. I love this because if literally any other college football coach does this you say. Wow what a dick if he does it you just say oh he. He thinks thinks he thinks he just out of like the divisional to the wildcard round picks. Oregon's a wildcard now before on this show about her over the beat to the end of the season and be like. Hey we got a bye week or no that we weren't we're nine and seven that really that really might have happened. We have spoken this into existence. It and we're going to the sun bowl round of the playoffs. Where will face a very exciting wake forest team do you think? Do you think gets confused when they play a ball game if they were to go to called the belt ball if they show up and they're like wiser North Carolina team here. I thought we were the road. Team Playoffs Weird. Think what happens is after they play play the panthers tell Ron Rivera. Hello so so I think what happens is they have like a Mynah bird protocol right. After if they win their bowl game they have to put her in a very dark room until it's time for until it's time for them to practice for their season opener next year because otherwise he's just gonNa keep prepping prepping for the next round of playoffs. They're gonNA never come on. But as long as they keep like a blanket over his head. nighttime Oh nighttime they actually they actually don't even tell him it's it's a ballgame their dislike yet on week fourteen boss here we got. We got a bunch of BI weeks. Don't worry about your team. Lives in El Paso. That's why we're going there. Just make sure he has a lot a lot of very soothing. Music low lights may be a water feature in the end. They just let him sleep until August. There just play the Fox. NFL theme real low injuries surgery. So the other versus the other possibility is that her knows exactly how this all I'll also knows that he can get away with being a deck. Because we'll just say oh earns can actually mean things. I don't. I believe this is true. I desperately wanted to pitch right right right. Yeah the playoffs. So just so just herm sitting like very very like like sitting in a chair in a dark room that theme music. Play this. This is now now my like this is now my relaxation music. Box version of the injuries due to and our next focused team requests. This is what I'm going to think about and meditation. We need full forecast theme injury the injury I think. That's the jazz theme we started with. This is our is the injury mode up amazing time in the chronology of this show to find out what we have disciplining the middle school band directors out there in the audience every had no one ever known wasn't incredibly violent angry person and I respect all of you more reasons just two more reasons to consider Arizona state are presented every week by reality. This game in particular was a bounty of them not just for her Edward. I'd say good luck in the playoffs. After the shake of thing that actually happened. But this that this is a six and five team and they're real happy about how things things are going if they'd beat Arizona they'll be seven and five and everyone at Arizona. State will say hell. Yes hell yes this was. This was a really fun year. Yeah because I got a six and five team that I'm just right you could go to Arizona State and said get six and five and thing. Yeah it's also great because because they fired Todd Graham who was essentially doing exactly yes and you're like yes. This is much better. What are you going to do? We're going to have a visionary Mary Shakeup of the Athletic eight managers and one brand manager named Herm Edwards who oversees the football football aura of the athletic ever that we referred to as Arizona State. Spirit here symbolized by this devil flying flying on the wings of a giant Tarantula Hawk Holy Shit and you know what the results will be the exact same thing we were doing doing but but now he might go to the red box bowl right. That's right it didn't exist before you'll note that's all of this. Basically just equal the same record. I refer you to the visual can on a Tarantula Hawk. It's different now l.. Venture capital talked about a lot of my favorite pet maven DOT com. Should we move to another where fifty three minutes to item three on our list of mine is mine's very quick. So Ohio state I'm sorry if I'm not going to overreact. That they only be Penn State by eleven. Like if you get if you forced three fumbles and recover them all. And they're all like doc incredibly ill-timed for Ohio state and you still never lied during that game. I'm not like really gonNA worry about it. I was curious though so I looked this up. Ohio state is currently leading the nation scoring a little over forty nine point game points per game not a good metric but it is helpful for this on the year. Ohio state has won defensive touchdown zero kick or punt return touchdowns like watching this team. You just watching this team. It is considering how good they are on defense. You just watch them go out and just do the thing they want to do. Nothing illustrated that to me. More brutally than the first drive they had of the game where they go ninety one yards and score a touchdown they chew up about five minutes of clock and they do it with twelve runs and one pass which was an incompletion. They decided sited on the first drive on offense against Penn State Defense. That's you know everybody's been talking about it. They can really shut down the road or whatever they ran the ball twelve fucking working times and moved ninety one yards to take to start the game. That's great I love how road that is. It's insanely radio. Whatever they please they? They're insanely rude. Yeah Yeah also. That's the best match. They'll face because Michigan is not made Michigan's not made to deal with that they're not you know the cruelest thing that you know the cruelest thing. That's happened to Michigan. This week is that people have decided to work. Look out being insanely unlikely. Math journey by which Michigan Beats Ohio State and also quote must considered a playoff contender. Like people have found a way to take this Michigan team which is playing much better. People are on Alex. Kirschner did this. He asked this before Saturday was even over. He could try this. I know I know but I don't think he did enough credit for being neater than any of us. Well in Alice's this is case it's also like he wants to find every possible. He's like doctor strange. He needs to find every playoff permutation possible. But I think every everyone Nelson just being rude and trying to add stakes. Add pressure to Michigan. Fans that they don't possibly need no no tack it on there. You beat Indiana the sky's the limit. Does this segment is a segue into my report from Michigan. Indiana it does yeah reported triveni. Addison Addison I attended the six hours I was. I was in the state of Indiana for Glimpse into the soul of Indiana. Did you understand. And what it's like out in those cornfields or whatever elevated tolerance for dairy out in the coal mines of Indiana. I did drive by Owensboro. Oh Kentucky so yes I've seen the coal mines of Indiana. They're they're all Kentucky Mining under the State Line right out in meth minds of Indiana halls reporting on the political climate. I understand nothing of Indiana. I talked to. I talked to many Eddie Indiana voters and they all agree out hell. Please don't make us play Michigan again in the best year in Indiana football history. I'm just GONNA say that by the way because the last time they won this many games as nineteen ninety-three they will probably win more with victory over purdue which is I hope all but certain because the most painful Indiana thing would be not beating purdue team however I will also say this Indiana football a few notes their stadium if big ten if the big ten were like a high school like if there were like big ten high right right? This sounds like the worst Disney sal show on the big ten network right big ten fire in the sky. Yeah there's Nebraska. Oh he was really good as a freshman but no likes him as a senior ten. The stadium at Indiana would be see the stadium for big ten high. It's like it's like a high school stadium if the big ten made it it's really nice. It's perfectly lovely. It's very very very teeny and small. Which means you have a great vantage point to watch things like shape patterson throwing five? Td's on your defense because Michigan though Indiana's improved improved is still a much much better football team. Also they beat the crap out of out of Indiana's offense pretty pretty hard for most of the game and that's why they only scored fourteen points other things. I UNDERSTAND ABOUT INDIANA. I don't know it. There was the sky was raining ice. And you're losing by. I twenty when I left. That seems to be a pretty accurate summary of the entire Indiana football experience. But Hey met conor Homefield met a lot of people that turned out. Low Darcy twitter among others. Lovely people lovely time. Whether straight from Soviet nightmare we heard from people who were there who were native to this part of the country that the weather was so bad that many Indians did not come to. This gained alone are poor delicate. George Magnolia Blossoms Spencer and Godfrey Yeah Godfrey Godfrey in that weather by the way. Looks like he's about to start telling you ominous things about the future of your family and the prologue to a spectral drama right no. It's not not good like I showed up and it looks like Godfrey was like I know you know you don't yeah I'm deaths show you how all your friends die. Yeah he's got a big he's always had big. All your friends are dead energy in Indiana it's tripled. He looks like the highway. Patrolman tolman who has to come to your house until Your Dad's dad and they can't find all all the parts and he's not going to be particularly sensitive about it and God forgives you the first side quests. It's with all the expedition. He really does have grim side quest energy right. That's I'm like you're probably probably not leveled up enough for this. Hey man volt forty seven. Yeah it wasn't built right Ryan. You have a lot of money in Mississippi Hippie you have provision of goods. That's your that's your video game role right like when you're alone you're the guy who's like welcome to the market would. Would you like slayers first sale. Would you like some highly and mushrooms. I sat right was that Disney Sim city. He tells you your fucking everything up and everybody's mad at you at this. I'm the I'm the Drain Transport Secretary Right. You'll regret this. You cut our funding now. Spencer you are the you're a wild animal attack in red. Did to from nowhere out of nowhere. You're just like I was playing blackjack at a panther taxman red dead three better half that right. Would you like to play some dominos. I think you're I think you're legendary removes legitimate bear at bar like if you love to and nobody mentioned anything my favorite. I think the Guy I am most with was the old prospector in red. Dead to the one that you run into in a bar. And he's yelling at everybody and it takes you like he can't win the fight but it takes you fifteen minutes to knock him out and other people are sitting there at the same time as you're doing it going man that'll man could take a beaten. They put him down yet. The guys like I football. By the way the Indiana hoosiers. The only time they finished ranked in my lifetime was nineteen eighty eight and they were they. They were GONNA do it this year though. We're going to do it this year. Boys like eight wins. Eight regular season wins and a bull wind and we can still live the dream of nine when Deanna. It's it's still there in. It's still possible that last regular season games purdue. Yeah Okay I see yeah. Courtesy go horribly wrong. Yeah Hey we're choosing to invest in Indiana football. How could we lose? The days are getting shorter. Family gatherings are in full. Swing and bull season is going to be here before you know it. That's right. We are entering during peak couch season. So why not upgrade. You're sitting experience with borough borough. Sofas are not only comfortable and frankly excellent to look at they're also super durable borough uses fabrics that are naturally scratch and stain resistant. So you don't have to worry about your messy Est.. stickiest cousin. Coming over to visit is it burrows couches are one hundred percent customizable and they come with built in USB chargers so win some mid December bowl game ends in an all out bench bench clearing brawl. You will have a fully powered phone ready to tweet about it. This holiday season settle into a Comfy New Borough Sofa get seventy five dollars dollars off a New Sofa and free one week shipping at borough dot com slash shutdown. That's B. U. R. O. W. DOT DOT COM slash. Shut down for seventy five dollars off a new SOFA okay listener. Have you been seeing. This means mean all over the talks and the twitter's and the grams and the face folks okay boomer and wondering what the heck. It's all about well so have we. We being today explained Boxes Daily News. podcast I'm the host. Sean Roms Firm. Hello we were wondering what was going on here. Is this meam driving A divide a wedge between young and the old is that good is that bad. Why is it happening is because of socioeconomic circumstances is it because has we're misunderstanding each other failing to communicate properly we do on our new episode? Okay boomer the deep dive into this mean that you've been leading and we also spent some time talking about the history of generational divides and whether the whole thing is just one big construct find the episode now in your feeds feeds today explained okay boomer. Thanks for listening. Let's see should we skip ahead to a team that can lose. It should be Arkansas place. I think the only the only constant anyone ingested from this game was coach after the game saying like. Oh it all celebrate veering Arkansas. They beat anybody in a long time. And that's the last thing he had to say about Arkansas. And then it came out that His his players didn't even take the enormous Somewhat hideous somewhat beautiful golden boot trophy off the field just left it there. They just they just fuck in civil label conflict in Arkansas. This is the second this is second week in a row. They've done that right. They just yeah. LSU Is Lsu is living Clutter free this is not Mark Ondo Gold condos a trophy door. I like this as a as a wrastling metaphor coach Coach Oh took Arkansas quote quote unquote best. Shot like Arkansas hidden with like the late flurry of offense and coach. Oh just stood there yeah coach. Oh Ain't going to sale no offers by Arkansas. Your net boy. There's like there's a story where the big show was facing. The little guy in low guy was like I'm GonNa jump off the ropes and big shows like you can try it and And Dude tries it during the matches bounces off of him. I don't know what you expected me to do here. That's LSU in Arkansas. For those of you who've made it this far into this episode. I would like to reward you with what I would. Argue is the funniest thing that happened this week in college football. It is that Miami in the midst of losing to you. Got Throat slashed by kicker after an extra point that was not particularly important to. It's not really an impressive. Extra point either like not like oh not that there is one of those things but he was pretty routine extra point. He's like Yeah Jack. The accounting outten over here just filling out this form. Just tell ya throat. Slashed chip should make things worse. All of this was happening at Marlins Park which is where Orange Bowl used to be and here are the other teams. Fau has beaten this year. New Hampshire Umass Charlotte you tap and Old Dominion. That's it a good time in there. This is how you know if I was destined to win this game. They won the battle that matters Miami six penalties for sixty five yards. FIU Fourteen for one hundred. Twenty six ex- graceful Miami graceful. You know this this this is I'm sorry kicker Florida international kick her her throat. Slashes the Miami Hurricanes at a basically home game is the best thing that has happened around University of Miami football this year there was also a after the game. It came out that and if I you player was saying around campus like during practice that in the week they referring into the canes as the University of Coral Gables they were saying yeah. Yeah Yeah like only sorry. I don't know if you the existence like twenty years ago. I don't know but here we are worse. Let's make it worse. Whose head coach? Well let's which I forgot until way after this game this is like this is like Butch Davis is light retirement. Work is beating eating Miami. That's the second worst insult that I can think of about this game that it's yeah. Butch Davis the guy who was the architect of you know all of the recruiting that got them. The best raw best to rosters may be of any college football team ever and now twenty years later. That team has like his light. I need money work right. Could Butch Davis kicker slashed Miami without Margaret's players. Wow good night everybody everybody. Hey it gets worse by the way Ariza Stat from the bear on College Game Day with a loss to Miami becomes the only team in the last forty years to lose three times as a fourteen point favorite in a single season Virginia Tech Georgia Tech. FIU It's hard to it means you're not you're you're you're pretty bad but everyone knows how good you could be if you weren't so bad. Yeah I still don't think it's really impressive. I I've seen I've seen worse laws in program history thrown around a couple of times. Go back and look. Miami's got some stank losses houses in there. I don't have to go back that far to find one that I think is much much worse in the finale. Now that you say Oh this is Marlins Park for the Orange Bowl was do you happen. Recall the last game played in the Orange Bowl. Forty eight zero in two thousand seven versus U v Hewlett Al Guido. pull you by the nose to the woodshed and give you a beating of a lifetime and then demolish grabbing. I'll go grab you by the throat. I'm the cocaine cowboy. Now the growth has given as the final buzzer sounded on the last game in the history of the Orange Bowl. The big banner unfurled saying goodbye. or It's both memory something along those lines. Yeah that's that to me is worse than kind of a real very disappointing and unfortunate definitely funnier hits banning this bottom bottom three God. This is really this like yeah. I don't like I agree. Maybe in terms of like Miami season was basically already done. But it's very funny man. It's very were missing the joy by rushing to rank us when we call marinate it is it is delightful especially because if I use kicker got at them. Some of those points by hidden bombs Jack. How bad is it when you're like I can't believe if I use kicker is putting up forty seven yards on us ask you go ahead slash after that extra point son? It's especially good because what Miami like if this happens to any other school literally any you can say like classless Blah Blah Blah. Miami could never say that maybe can never be like that's really get appropriate at you acted at this football. They only team Miami can call classless as UNC. There is there is one other one by the way which The gator flop. If you'll remember that that the gator flop which was John Reeves needing three hundred or so passing yards to break. What was the passing using record at the time in nineteen seventy one and it was forty five eight which was pretty bad but remember that Florida players in order to get the ball back fell on the ground like they all just fell on the ground on defense to get the ball back? Let Miami score and then give John Reeves the record record. So that's like top five for Miami there in terms of absolutely heinous hideous losses on the plus side. If if they want to make a coaching change admittedly it'd be you know it's it's a quick a quick plug the poll but Graciana remains available. Really I thought rutgers hat and walked up on Sunday night at ten forty five anyway I I was told he left the New England the Patriots for the for the rutgers job is that not the case so it turns out and this is like by everybody get close. This is like advanced business can hit. You'll never hear anyone else hell. Somebody's like Campfire Story. Like ooh Rudler. Next turns out if you're if you're trying to negotiate with somebody for a multimillion dollar position and you basically let them know that there is no plan B that there is no competition they will just come at you hard and demand whatever they want. Because you've told them you have all the leverage in this relationship relationship like if you threaten to keep Nunzio campanile. I don't even think they know how to do that at this point. I'm a little worried that at this point rutgers may just be like well we have no coach. We're GONNA get kind of figured out week by week as we go. We have some fun A student at some some stupid promotions where we're going to let students coach quarter-by-quarter next year And if any we are. I think it's going to be kind of like when a when a college football teams like we don't have kickers. We don't have any kickers on the roster so we're doing an open tryout. They're going to do that but for New Jersey high a school football coaches pretty good. Yeah that wouldn't be their worst idea. No twitch plays soccers twitch replays rutgers football basically so what they offer great show eight years of of of records employment but it was. The Pot was not sweet enough for coach Janas Liking who wanted so much more and Yeah they're done. Apparently this is not gonna not gonNA happen. I think this Jones it is. I think this all fell l.. Apart due to one demand that nobody could meet which was great. A flattering sandwich named for Greg. And they couldn't do one right the good head the grease truck truck guy in there like yeah. We're GONNA have to give to make a sandwich after a coach Jato here and they're like okay. I got it. How about bad Dick Greg? Yeah Yeah I'll tell you it's it's two slices a wheat and then like some really weird looking at Ham and we call him bad. No it's just the name things. What the what? The guy's funny funny name. In order to say when it's got a half cooked waffle on it it's gotten entire Salami has got has got a Lotta Mersa mayonnaise on it. Yeah then you put you put half an old flip phone on their what. Yes for the GRUNGE. You don't like Salad Greg could could you name it. Something could could you name is something you know. More Professional. Flattering to me. Okay mic. It's the PUKE Dixie. Oh I got you I got you huge. Dick Gregory Calling in Puke. I love everything that crunches is a vegetable the old seven Dick's Yano the sandwich ready. So now was chewing on some glass because I needed my veggies so I guess now at our Canon. I think everybody listened to Jersey as it goes. It's amazing I take this week garbage. Turn it into the milk of goat kindness. Hey everyone this is Shaun. Rama's firm on the host of Fox's Daily News podcast day explained and on Wednesday night. The Democrats had their fifth debate the debate and if you're watching carefully you might have noticed that Mayor Pete. Buddha judge no longer seemed to be on the offensive. He wasn't attacking. Senator Elizabeth warn. He was on the defensive people were attacking him and he was defending his positions. It was sort of an interesting shift for Mayor Pete and we explored Lord in greater detail on our latest episode. We spent the first half recapping the debate and the bigger moments. There wasn't a lot of robust conversation on policy but the were a lot of moments. Could we learn more about these candidates from more superficial conversations on policy and the second half of the show I talked to Matthew Yglesias the host of the weeds podcast from. Vox All about the rise of mayor. Pete whether means anything is just a bump. Will we forget about it next week. Listen to the show to find out today. Explain the episode is out. Now it's called the DEM's uh-huh went down to Georgia thank you.

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Climate change alters a Louisiana tribes way of life

Climate Connections

01:30 min | 6 months ago

Climate change alters a Louisiana tribes way of life

"I'm dr anthony. Leiserowitz and this is climate connections citizens of the united home nation in southeastern louisiana. Say that the ground is literally disappearing beneath their feet. Members of the state recognized tribe have long lived on the gulf coast so their culture is intimately tied to the water and land. Not only will we fisherman. But our entire food came from the land and there were traditionally very few grocery stores and many of our by us simply because everything we needed we had right there and that includes medicines shannon. Dora billiad is a citizen of the united nation and an assistant professor of social work at arizona state university. She has studied how environmental changes affect the tribe. She says climate change has altered the timing abundance of fish harvest and dredging by the oil industry combined with sea level rise has allowed salt water to see further inland. That makes it harder to grow food. And the saltwater is also killing off our trees and trees are very important for medicines and ceremonies translate the cedar and cypress. This changing landscape makes it more difficult for the homa to sustain their traditional way of life Climate connections is produced by the center for environmental communication to hear more stories like this visit climate. Action's dot org.

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Maybe The Way To Control Locusts Is By Growing Crops They Don't Like

NPR's World Story of the Day

03:41 min | 1 year ago

Maybe The Way To Control Locusts Is By Growing Crops They Don't Like

"This message comes from n._p._r. Sponsor xfinity some things are slow like a snail races. Other things are fast like xfinity x. by get get fast speeds. Even when everyone is online working to make wifi simple easy awesome more at xfinity dot com restrictions apply a biblical scourge continues to be devil communities around the world. We are talking locusts summer. Swarms of them have devastated crops in in yemen. They're threatening farms in india and pakistan in arizona. Researchers are trying to come up with new strategies to mitigate the damage that locates stu. N._p._r.'s joe poca has more local swarms can be unbelievably huge. The largest sworn recorded was the size of about the state of california arjan. Cease is a sustainability scientists at arizona state university that california sized swarm didn't occur in some come far off land it was right here in the united states and whenever they landed a pretty much aid everything is really devastating says the swarm took place in the eighteen seventies children's book author laura ingalls wilder even describe the devastation in her little house series people kept waiting for another giant swarm and yet somehow it never occurred that particular locus species never swarmed like that again and in the early nineteen hundreds it was declared extinct why hi it went extinct may never be fully known but cease says the best hypothesis is it had something to do with changes in farming practices bring in lots of cows for example simple on telling areas that hadn't been told before that suggests a strategy cease says there is no single answer to controlling locus for a variety eighty of practical and human health related issues. You just can't spray them into submission with pesticides. So you need a different approach. We're really interested in that connection between between people and locusts and looking at that connection for solutions but i you have to know your adversary so this is the locust colony <hes> so one of these environmental chambers us. We're in the locust lab at arizona state rick oversight as research manager for the lab. The room is filled with large cages which is jammed with locusts so in this room we have at any given time we have from four to five different species of locusts overson says they're studying all aspects of locust life how they behave what microbes are in their gut looking for weaknesses. They can exploit one promising avenue open. Your research involves what locus like to eat. It turns out that locusts every locust studied to date is very carbohydrate hungary and does well l. in performs well on carbohydrate or sugary based diets that has implications for farmers arjan cease says her lab also does field research in senegal all she says farmers there grow grain called millet according to cease farmers who grow their millet sustainably maintaining healthy soil nutrients tend to to produce a crop. That's relatively low in carbohydrates tune. Asli we're finding with our research is actually that those are places that locus tend tend to not like she's trying to demonstrate experimentally that altering farming practices may be a viable way of combating locusts that challenge comes and implementing that cease has created the global locust initiative to help with that and finding other strategies for dealing with locust outbreaks around the world joe palca n._p._r. News.

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Politics Affecting Too Much of Life

KILF Morning New Podcast

06:39 min | 4 months ago

Politics Affecting Too Much of Life

"Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its geico easy. Visit geico dot com. Today that's geico. Dot com dot. Com is new and improved. And you can listen. Live on your computer while working. This is real news and information five. Seventy klif dot com good morning. Six forty now klif. On friday morning with the david naming on five seventy klif. I saw this story thought all boy at least somebody starting to pay attention and do a little research and let's hope that it is unbiased. Which is you know a word that has lost all. Hope i think in recent years. Yeah i don't think everything is political these days. It really is become the The research i'm talking about According to a new a new paper that was published in the journal of public policy and marketing by researchers at arizona state university the university of wyoming and four other. Us universities they found that political polarization is having far reaching impacts on american life harming consumer welfare and creating challenges for people ranging from elected officials and policy makers to corporate executives marketers. At two which. I would add personal relationships. Familial relationships and personal friendships were all in the grinder. Well it seems like people are being fired or not even considered for jobs based on their politics right. I mean going to be very careful what you say. These days we live in the land and we live in the twenty first century in in a country that was based on the idea that we have freedom of thought freedom of speech and freedom of action. And now it is. It's getting to a point where we don't have any of those things Lest you be shunned may lose your career. Maybe you know lose everything that means anything to you in your life all because you said something in the wrong way or you expressed an opinion that other people disagree with and back in at twenty eighteen survey they found about sixty four percent of consumers around the world whereby or boycott a brand solely because of its position on social or political issue. Well in a separate study done in two thousand and twenty. They found that eighty. Three percent of millennials find it important for the companies. They buy from to align with their values. I don't have a problem with that. That's consumerism plain and simple their companies. And i don't like. I won't go into the store that's all that's all you have to do. Just don't go in there or don't buy a song because the language radio or you don't like right. Somebody's saying the channel exactly and we have a tendency to blame social media for all of this. But i don't think i don't think social media alone is to blame i just think that that's the great burner. That's that's the great boiler that gets people heated up and and makes it impossible to have conversation without insisting that somebody else think exactly as you do and live their life. That exactly as you do it is to blame. Because people get behind their computer screen or their cell phone and they think they can hide behind it and be nasty to others. I think you know we in face to face interactions. You don't really do that. Maybe not on the phone. You don't do that. But i think for some reason it's like when people get behind the wheel they get crazy you know. Yeah no i agree with you. I'd say. I don't think it was entirely to blame. But i think i think it has just it has just boiled something that has started Socially in other ways. Where people have i i you know this is an old guy thing. It just seems to me. That people aren't raised. Children are not raised with the kind of respect and values that we used to have and whether we believe them or not. We acted quote unquote appropriately. We did as we were told with. We we were respectful of other people of all ages and that seems to be going away and now it's everybody has a me me me attitude. I'm as important as you are. And i have a right to speak and as i know. Nobody's trying to stop you from speaking. Just don't tell me how to live right so you know what's to be done. I don't i don't know and you may be right. We it may be too late to do anything about it. What really scares me is Some people have gotten to a point where they they expect The world is. We've known it to come to an end. I was talking with a friend yesterday. Who said quite sincerely that People of our age meaning late sixties early seventies and older. He said he thought that we are. This is a very very smart person. He said that i that i should be worried about. Be a knock at the door being dragged off and sent to a re-education camp. And i said you've got to be kidding me. Would anybody want me for that reason. I mean it would be easier. If that's how the government's gonna it would be easier for them just to kill me. Wouldn't it people are getting crazy and believing all kinds of weird stuff now. I think they've always done that. You know they're all those people who believe the earth is flat and all that that's a good point. Maybe maybe people are just willing to say so now when we used to keep those goofy thoughts to ourselves more. I don't know anyway Again if you wanna look into this and really dig into some of the details of that was published in. Oh gosh i can you find it. the publication printed this stuff sorry journal of public policy and marketing. Thank you thank you.

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Herm Edwards on George Floyd, Social Distancing for Defense, Jayden Daniels

Herbstreit and Fitzsimmons

28:28 min | 1 year ago

Herm Edwards on George Floyd, Social Distancing for Defense, Jayden Daniels

"The college football podcast with Herbie and pollick now here's your host. Kevin Na Gandhi. The College Football podcast Kevin Gandhi with David Pollack joining us in just a few moments. We just hope everybody is safe and healthy during this time, and and as promised will we were trying to do is bring some coaches on to give us their perspective all parts of the country each. Each place is different each state local community so when it's time to come back they have different rules and protocols. Our guest today is great man Herm Edwards and He. He's a dear friend and he's. He's been fantastic at Arizona state, and we have the chance to talk a little bit about What's going on with this program? Why? He came back his. His goals with the program relating to eighteen to twenty two year olds a little miracle, the meadowlands conversation as well as you know, the the state of the pandemic, and and his approach and his communication as a biracial child to his team during this time of following the death of George Florida's. We'd seen protests throughout the country. We do hope you enjoy the podcast. Arizona State head coach. Herm Edwards joining us here in the college football podcast and Coach we'll talk about your return of the sidelines and the game has changed, but I want to start with your experience son of an interracial marriage. What have you see? What have you experienced after the death of George Floyd Forty six year, old, unarmed, black man who died in custody in Minneapolis early last week. That our citizenry, our country Of all different nationalities walks life. They're angry. it kind of reminds me of the. Of the Rosa Parks situation in December nineteen, fifty five. She was tired. and. She was long ago to sit in the back of the bus. He said the front. And she said I'm tired. I think our country our. Card of what we now get to witness because racism has become field in its own cells. and. It's on phones. And every way you can see it. And I think young people in our country with people like myself from all different walks of life and different aid groups are fed up with it. And we think about our criminal justice system. Lady Justice has blindfolds on. And that I mean scales are supposed to be balanced when it comes to justice, and I think people of Color feel like for decades. That has not been the case whether it's been. Street justice. Justice or even when you get into the courtrooms that theme, that scale never seems to be balanced correctly. And I think our country is fed up with it and this is why you see protests. Coach. How do we fix it? Like I think that you know as players, you have voices as coaches Jeff Voices. How do you? How do you make petty? You make a big change. How do you? How do you make this better? While it starts in the local level in my opinion, it starts with the governor's. The mayor's. The city leaders police commissioners at the the case. If it's bad policing in some cases, it is the that's where the conversation starts, and this is where people need to vote. And they need the whole. Though civic leaders accountable for their actions of what takes place. In their cities in their communes, and until we acknowledge that. You can really have no to change. You we have a lot of energy right now. In our country we want to do. Something was WanNa do something you need to look in your communities and say how these communities being run and who was in? Leadership positions and what are they doing to make a difference? That's how it starts, and it's a hard conversation to be quite honest. Uncomfortable conversation for some people that don't look color. They haven't been in those shoes people of. They don't understand it a lot of and that's the conversation that needs to be had. What has worked for you when you need to connect the young people of Color on your team when they're looking right now for leadership and guidance, and you know I shouldn't say young people of Color just the entire team. These young men who are watching the images some are taking part. Some are angry, somewhere emotional. What's been your message when they're looking for leadership and guidance? Solutions you know I watched it. In Nineteen, seventy two, when I was a freshman cal Berkeley. With all the protests we were just coming out off. The civil rights movement Vietnam War with this was in food. Go and a lot of protests a lot of. Pain and anguish in our country in one thousand, nine, hundred seventy two dollars, a freshman, the cow, so I was a foot athlete, but I also witnessed a lot of this and sat there and listened to speakers in the protesters and this is how you gather information in a coordinated opinion about the type of life. You WanNa live when you become an adult. Coach now, not only we dealing with this We're also on a pandemic Your sixty six years old, and you stay in great shape. I mean listen. For people that in no harm is, and you could learn something. You learned something from Him Kevin or out of things. Yeah you! You're kidding, you know. Herm was a teammate of ours at ESPN for people that didn't know. This man would get up at four in the morning and have a workout before coming in i. mean he did more before nine am at the many people I've ever met in my life. How have you been handling this situation? Personally with your age considering you're in great shape, but also the awareness of your staff and getting ready for your kids to come back. Well our whole university. I think college football in general. Not you see some outbreaks and and I think we all anticipate back. What we do when we have those breaks, I think a very very critical and an important but testing where you mass when you're in buildings were only bringing reaction start next week, next on the fifteenth. Accuse me of bringing players in, but not not a massive group small groups at a time, and we're trying to work our way through this, but you know we're GonNa get tested we're gonNA temperature checks, coaches, and everyone and you make the point you know. The young people are a lot of them can. Can survive this. As we see the numbers state that if people with underlying conditions and people certain age groups, I have to be more careful and more diligent to make sure that they're that. They're taking all the steps to protect yourselves, and and the players gotTA protect. Each! Other as well, you know we. We're trying to do something that there's nothing about football social just last time I am now any this is in football. Team is not going to wear like it's So her. How do you? How are you handling now meetings? And how do you handle what what's your plan moving forward with all this stuff because i? Listen I've been in meetings before coaches on on the phone or zoom in I mean these kids have a hard time paying attention? When you're right in front of for God's sakes like how are you getting better as a football team? Are you going to be ready to play football in a couple months? How's IT changed from the past year? Well you just said the meeting time now is all. because. No one really has had players in the building yet. I was fortunate I actually got going to build They I I went to work at. And with that being said is a hollow building. There's no energy in there all because as you know, players bring energy along coaches, so we had a. we had a makeshift little bit of a staff in there. We looming during the course of the week. Now they'll come back and you're right. How do we go forward? And there's a lot of thought on until we get into camp. Blow because we're chess working out right now with the white coats trying to get back into condition that you can play football. Do we continue with zooming and not allowed? That happened the building. I've already come up with your once we start the season. And people are GonNa think I'm grading. I say well if they're going to be fans in the stadium, then the defense when they come off the field to go into I front row, and we can be with the players on defense affairs, so we keep the sideline stuff resume. Love it. How back look? Look Right. The! End Up. Going over what's happening on the field? I said we can do that now. Because real culture I bet just walk right up there and go with me. We're good. Communication will be at its all time peak on the sidelines. No noise I mean that's the one thing people don't realize is with defense when you have Kraus's and the crowd gets loud when you're at home, it's hard to communicate stuff when when you think about injuries. Is there something you differently because? I'm just I know when I came back. It didn't matter how much I lifted weights. When I went on that field, and I had to sprint and put a helmet on you all this different stuff and you're telling me these. Like curling jugs, water and stuff like that, they're not gonNA be where they've been physically. How do you monitor that? You're right. You make a great point, and that's concerned with all the coaches. The preparation time that leads into training camp and the soft tissues tissue injuries occur the hamstrings. You know grow wings. Achilles Tendon and this is what you nervous about saying. You gotta bring them along slow. We can't get into the mode of we've, missed. Almost forty fifty days work. Of guys working with with a strength, coach or somebody involved and what we're trying to get that back, you don't get that back. They've gone, so what starting? No, now we have age of football, but then after that we shut down, I mean March. Eighth was our last week. So He's guy anything they've done. They've done on their own until. The gyms are opened up last week, but so we're we're. We're all stuck on Saint Ground Zero. Now, you're entering year three coming off the eight win season with wins over Oregon Arizona Super Bowl victory over FSU. You Got Jaden Daniels. Who showed flashes of Brilliance at quarterback? We'll get the Daniels in a second and I know I'm going to complement Politika on his podcast, which is very rare, but you here's the one thing that's very different here for you. Her is you've got a new offensive coordinator. Zach from Boise State and had J. Daniels entering his sophomore season House hill, handling the adjustments of. Earning the trust from Daniels while installing this offense virtually. well as I said. We have three practices in when I hired Zach I told him I said, look we. We got a talented guy and and and be quite honest. I told the story when we got jade and I talk to Jane a season started. You know as a freshman starting I said look. I'm going to protect you as much as I can say now. You gotta prove to me that. That that that that we want to build this around you, and so with that being said he went out and did what he needed to do. We only two interception, so this offense built around quarterback. It's around his skillset and when I hired that that understood that big former quarterback coach a lot of good quarterbacks as well so you understand. I'M GONNA. Build it around. Obviously the quarterback. Now it's multidimensional. For Personnel Groups Formation Sas Logan under center We can go from the gone lot of different as a multitude of things we can do and Jaden can handle you know he young guy, you speak, Jaden, but when you think of our football team, guys, we've only got seven seems. It his all young. and. Done on purposely. We're trying to build a program. Yeah, when I, when I look at Jaden coach, the thing that impresses me the most is. I saw Michigan State and I saw. You know fourth-down scrambles when he needed to, but I saw the kid had elite toys in the moment, never got too big, even if he wasn't having the best game and I saw a kid. That has the ability to buy time and make play is. Lost you from the pocket like he wants to kill you first with his arm so. What's? I. I said last year about week four I'd seen enough that I think he's a guy that is in the heisman trophy conversation in years to come. Is that what you expect from him? Absolutely and and I think you know we got? And that's the thing now. How does he handle all this? Success that that that obviously that he deserved and I think he's the kind of guy. very very very calm, and that's what I love about the kid very calm. You know he had this calm demeanor, so we have a really good relationship we we we kinda. My Kid Kinda. We flowing Saint PA- on wavelength. You know being calm and it's. It's funny because you miss committed to Michigan say. We're sitting in the last version you know and I said Hey. Fire calling five five minutes, and he comes over and looked at and I know. This is the last possession right. Yeah well. No, we need like score touchdown. And he looked at me and he goes. We're going to be what good coach I got and I don't get. You don't do this, right? Trusted. He came back and looked at the weeks out there okay I got I got jump feeling. That's great and not many guys have that. Has that ability to just come right into as a true freshman in understand? I've got to have poise as well as my skill set when you look and with your experience in the NFL and coming back to the college game. How does this game translate the Sundays and I know I know put the cart before the horse here, but we're talking. Talking about a guy who's going to be in the heisman conversation for the next couple of years, and we've seen how the game change with draft picks, and how they evaluate quarterbacks. How does his game translate? Sundays well if he keeps the lending, obviously, which will I think? We're trying to build a team around him and it starts with the offic lineup definitely after you a good job of. Picking up the line and we do that. In fact, I got to seniors coming in one from Stanford Texas am but we're young, but I think that a young receiver core that he can grow with I, it's just it's experience. The boy play and I think the biggest games for him in big moments, and how he doesn't those moments that always kinda tells the story of the quarterback. You origin game right. Everyone was talking about Herbert rightly so going to be a first round pick and I remember the conversation I had with him might say look. This games on national television company. We're looking at quarterback and I said at the end of the game. We WanNa see who the best quarterback he is right. He looks at me, so I got it coach I. Said Okay. We'll do do. And and he right with that guy, and that's what he likes. He understands the moment. He, he grafted can love loved the competition of it all. Well coach when when you mentioned the all aligned I'm not GONNA lie. When you watch you guys, it was not a strength of your football team, and you were at the under armor games. Every year we saw Yukos those guys in all those all those guys, those games, very few of them were going out west. You know very few of them were so how do you? How do you shift that? How how do you build a program at Arizona State? That might be a little bit different. You just mentioned you transfer from Stanford. Obviously, that's one way you can supplement. How do you build that up front on the offense and defensive lines to make it something where people fear? Well. Obviously, you know what we've done. We've expanded our footprint and we're in the Mid West and on the East Coast and it starts very young. You know the twenty two class twenty one class well. We gotTA already start. Create those conversations with these guys you know. Recruiting is about relationships as you know. And I think the quicker you can form a relationship and talk to them about the program now. What else you have a quarterback like then? there's a lot of people that look at that and go look. I want to be involved in this I. WanNa play with this guy. Right in that kind of got you know he helps you the truth. We don't have any problem receive. We'll have any problem getting killed. Now I think the problem promotion themes, and when you look at the West Coast, you know our conference. There's some good line there, but you see a lot of first round picks coming out of that conference. You don't be three or four coming out of that conference every year and I think that's what the concerts really looks at when you think about going and taking the next step, how do you solidify and you mentioned on both sides of the ball before guys that can go rush, quarterback and the guys. You can play on the offensive line. quarterback. You mentioned the wide receivers. Oh, how about this? The production in the last two years when it comes the first round picks and kill Harry and then Brandon I you this season. What expectations do you have I know? You brought up that they're young. You still have a guy like Fred Darby there. What expectations do you have? And who are the stars that we should be keeping an eye on here also when you lost Benjamin in the backfield. Well we'll Darby's guy obviously, and we've got young and bachelor and freshman running back coming in as well I you know I would have mentioned young guy because they're gonNA. Listen to the show. Name. They're going to say their parents will say well Costa. Imagine your name so. Young look I know how to game. Bomb they to call me and say well why you make you my son I love them all I do and what unique about this deal? They're all young guy. Senior receiver. Other than that. They're fresh. We got fired freshman coming in now and the ones that play last year. We're. Talking about a class of freshman and sophomore players. No I mean that's our team. I mean it's like. People say well guys. I said he had. I mean that's what they are, but they're going to grow together. They're going to play together and That's the fun of it all. Hey coach! You start your starting to pile up. And I don't think people. I don't know if people realize this or not. But the Antonio Pierces the Marvin Lewis like. The. Like. I spent a lot of time with Marvin. Lewis drafted me this. I know. I just Love I. Love that man I mean he's. He's a phenomenal first class. Dude like you're starting to pile up great a great staff. Of guys that have a tremendous amount of respect for in the Community of Sports, community and football that has to help recruiting. We talk about some of those guys that you've got like that. That has moved to Arizona State. Well he was one of my first hires. He's actually I. Coach hired I hired Alu- bill! because I knew this about the about recruiting and then I hired AP. Because he had. Known for years, and he was hooked into the to the southern California. So and and the good player coach and I just do everything about it. Staff, and so that being said that that's kind of how the foundation got bills, and then from there. You Know Marvin was a consultant last year and our coordinator got a job and Gonzales went. You know got a hit job. And then coach white got coordinator job, and when that happened, it happened so fast and right after bowl game and Martin Walker office and he goes. I got you and I go. In he says. I'll do it. And I said you. And, that's okay well. Let me call you. Why thank you? I, make sure it's OK her. Tangled. But I'M GONNA call. Michio right. She gave the blessings the. Marvin but me. Martin go back like some of the tone over thirty years. I mean it's kind of funny I met Marvin that Kid University of pit when he was working on that staff were Paul Hackett Deacons aside and Scout, I was just coming in the League without came city. And that was one of my schools and then the next year. you know two years later? I become. Secondary Guy in Marvin doesn't internship. There was with the chiefs this. We had Joe Montana. You know and Bruce Areas. They're out there twenty bill car. We're all SF with Martin, but that's how I kind of met Marvin and we've been friends ever since, so he had a place in in in tippy and You know on the and. He wanted he wanted to help out. I said Yeah. Come on, and so he's an assistant. You know like A. Sister to everybody first year, and then all of a sudden, he coordinate Russia really. Good. Hey, so you brought up her. This this recruiting thing and you've you've hit home runs. I mean a top twenty five class. You've got eight and early. Enroll as I just WANNA understand the transition for you. You know at age sixty six. You're at ESPN for felt like ten years after you're finished poaching jets. What what's it been like for you to coach this generation like? Do they know anything about the miracle at the meadowlands? Do they know that you picked off joke name of? Do they know anything about you or were you the guy on ESPN? How do they recognize you early on when you transition? I would kind of guy on ESPN. Their parents knew who I was the player. But they knew that I was the coach at the underarm game. And that's where the connection always stay connected. Not Close that game years. And so I you know. The Keel was on my team. Right! No, it's amazing. How many kids in that under armour game? I actually coast. And so they knew our coaching. On television, and when you think about the the Minstrel meadowlands I mean that's the thing that is kind of unique. Because for me, you know happens to nine hundred seventy eight, so you can imagine. Every state, I hadn't the head coach whether it with the jets whether it was with the Kansas City chiefs, and now they're going to say getting ahead. Guys well, you know when you go through situations in football, you always go through situations before training Sam you Kinda go through situations and you're talking and you're getting into the take the knee. The Hail Mary to say we all these things. So? It's Kinda funny because even even in New York when I took. Okay now. This is the kneel down formation you know. And I asked the players I said now. Why don't we do that? Right I'm kind of. And so sure enough. I told take. Anything away and they go. Oh no you. Can imagine at every level in someone week my first year when I go to. Three you know and we're talking and we're getting ready to you know. Start Spring Ball and I'm going okay now. What does victory and I said? Why do people? And the guys are kind of looking like they assume formation. We know how to do that. But why did this occur right? Ensure no, you turn the tape on, and they start looking they go. Hey? I'm north not in high definition, but that is me. Oh you'd be surprised the last you get man. You. Know here's the thing I. IT sounds like you're having fun and acted the game but big picture. What do you have? Have you thought out? He's got three or four years. Like what are your goals here when you came back to coach again on the college level? Well. We wanted we. We watched competitive consistency and we want to be one of those teams. In our conference. There were always in the hunt to win to the south. And obviously go to a row. I mean that that that that is our journey and that is. That was made clear in my first press town. And you know and I think we start to. We were starting to develop this this thing of consistency. You know when you look at us the last two years Except for one game? All our gains agility that that. Not, that we won, but we want somebody more than one score, but the loss of all one score games. For the most part, so we've been very competitive at times. You know we sometimes we didn't finish. Sometimes. Some of that is used. Some of this is we're not? We're talented enough to make the point, but I I think our players are realized that most games are lost rather than one. To the error and mistakes and I think we can just stay in games. We have the mindset now in the fourth quarter is like we're okay, boys. We're Donald. Score or whatever we can get this done, and they believe that these kids bleed there, and that's kind of our deal. You know we just we just keep playing. The other day and every time we walk. In in the stadium. One thing I tell them. Leave it on the grass when. You've got. Grass and we'll live with the consequences. I love your sayings. Especially, sometimes in this era of not pressing said Buddy We Miss Ya. We're happy for you. You keep kicking, not changing lives in and in the desert, and so you open up the season against northern Arizona. I gotTa, tell you it's great to talk to you because I miss our our conversations in the green room. Those those were life lessons every single time. We have the chance to talk. Well I appreciate you brother in in both you guide and you guys have been. Lots to be as well man. Our conversations is just. His life of life lesson we learn every day when you get into huddled man, and and I can say in that about our our situation here in America. we got huddle up. We gotta hold up and share our differences. With. Solutions Man and then I can go for. A big, thank you to herb. Edwards for joining us to give us his thoughts with when the when the man speaks, he's coming from so many different angles, and it's always pure. It just sit there and just listen and I always walkway learning something. We hope you did too and You know I think Jaden. Daniels is going to be a superstar in the next couple of seasons. We'll see how this plays out. Though with with the new offense, coordinator Zach Brigham what he's. He's bringing from Boise State. Maximizing the skillset that Daniels has on the field big things. 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How To Trust A VPN

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29:59 min | 2 years ago

How To Trust A VPN

"Welcome to if Dan the showboat. Art technology is changing our lives and our future. I'm April Glaser, but I'm will arenas. Hey, everyone. Welcome to we're coming to you from slate and future tents partnership between slate Arizona State University and new America, we're recording this on the afternoon of Tuesday margin. On today's show. We'll take a look at an increasingly popular online privacy tool that has some serious trust issues of its own. I'm talking about VPN's virtual private networks, and why the average internet user might have a very hard time figuring out which one to trust. We'll also look at privacy blender number one billion from our friends at Facebook. This one involves a feature to a stencil help keep your account safer. The turns out to be another good way for Facebook to keep track of you wherever you go. Mark Zuckerberg wants told congress you own your data. But it seems that once you give Facebook your phone number. You're never getting back and as always will end with don't close my tabs some of the best stories we saw online this week. That's all coming up on if then since nineteen eighty four Samuel Adams has brute Boston lager inefficiently the traditional way Sam Adams Bruce for over a month and uses only one hundred percent heirloom hops from the holler towel region. In germany. They don't. Cut corners. It's glorious inefficiency in every sip. The Boston beer company. Boston, Massachusetts savor the flavor. Responsibly. Some of you may have noticed that we've been experimenting with their format over the past few episodes. We'd love to hear your feedback on how that's been going. But just to keep the spirit of experimentation alive. We are going to be doing something different this week. I'm interviewing will Mike host about a fascinating story that he published last week. I'm interviewing because it was just such a good story. And I thought it was something that our listeners may want to explore more. It is about VPN's virtual private networks, and that's just jump in. If that's cool. Will I'm curious if you could just start by telling us what a VPN is. Yes, sure thing and thanks for having me on your podcast. Thanks for having me on your podcast or having you on your gas. Well, what what what is it VPN? And I should also say the story is called D address your VPN. Are you sure? So that gives you a bit of clue and what we're talking about here, which is internet privacy. Will what is a VPN? What must stand for something the threat at the Georgia said what is tense for? But it's virtual okay, never virtual private networks. What does that mean notice better than I do? But I appreciate you playing here. The questions VPN is a service that in crypts your internet, traffic and routes it through remote servers. So anytime you connect to a website you're connecting through servers that are owned by your VPN provider. And your traffic is encrypted which means that even if people could somehow get on the network, they couldn't see exactly what it is. You're doing. Online. So VPN's are useful in a couple for a couple of things one is that they make it. So that internet sites can't see your IP address. Your address doesn't tell people exactly who you are. But it gives them a good idea of where you're located. It's usually provided to you by internet service provider when you use VPN instead, you're getting your IP address from one of these remote servers somewhere around the world that's owned by your VPN provider. It doesn't even have to be in the country you live in. So I could be in the United States but connecting through servers in Europe to a website. And it would think that I was in Europe instead of being in the United States that can be good for privacy. The encryption can also be useful. So if you're at a Starbucks or some kind of public location, and you're connecting to an insecure public WI fi network. The fact that the VPN in crypts, your traffic means that somebody can't jump on that network and sniff out what you're doing or or somehow, you know, if you're entering your credit card number. Somebody can't see that in uncrowded form and St.. Well, it they can't jump on the network with you. So that's another reason to use VPN's and one more reason that people use PIN's to get around content restrictions. You're in China. There's the great firewall a lot of the internet is blocked off to you. But if you hop on a VPN and make it look like you're coming from someplace else than all of a sudden, you can access stuff that you would not be able to normally access from inside China, if you're in the United States, and you want to do some torrent ING or download some files or stream stuff that that is blocked for you for some reason VPN's can also help you right? So eighty ends they skate where you're surfing the internet from got that's more private than if that's not obvious gated because then they can kind of tell where your address is our websites. Visiting can kind of get a sense of where you are based on your IP address. You've that VPN's appear to be blooming in copulating, which I found really interesting because they were always just kind of this obscure acronym of a service that. Most people didn't quite understand even if they used one. There was one estimate that VPN usage has quadrupled worldwide in the past two years in your story, and it's becoming a huge market with companies that are being acquired, and they're raising hundreds of millions of dollars from venture capitalists. But yet I mean VPN's have been around for as long as I can remember why do you think they're becoming so popular now? So there's a couple of reasons one is that there's more and more content that people wanna stream, but that it's blocked off from them for the people in India use VPN's to be able to access net flicks. For instance, mentioned China earlier, but there's also just the growing awareness of online privacy. And also, I think a growing mistrust of our internet service providers these are companies like Comcast. And Verizon there was a law passed recently that allows those companies to sell your browsing data for advertising purposes. So if you don't want them to do that using VPN can hide your browsing. From them. So it seems like it's kind of following in the footsteps of adblocker which have maybe went mainstream Aleksei two or three years ago. And now tons of people use them VPN's are on that path. But as I discovered when I tried to figure out which to us there are a couple obstacles to going mainstream. Yeah. Right. I mean, it's hard to know what wanted to trust. It was with ad blockers. People used adblocker plus at plus Google, which seemed really into it if I remember correctly. I use a VPN is being, you know, religiously actually for my reporting, especially because if I'm visiting some right website, or some shady website that's run by a troll. I don't want them to know that I'm putting around because after that story, they may say, oh, you know, who's been visiting our site from Oakland in the specific location. I don't want them to know where I'm coming from or to to note that I'm. You know, looking at all corners of their website and where that's coming from. And so I just I always use VPN. You know, particularly when I'm in a public wifi scenario because I definitely want to protect my sources and don't want to to read my traffic, nor do I want my traffic to look suspicious because I'm always, you know, looking up some shady thing for whatever reporting I'm doing, and if someone was looking my traffic, they would probably think I'm a psychopath when really reporting go fast in some ways. So you came into the story though, from the perspective of someone who's not like me someone who didn't already have VPN and you were trying to figure out which one to use. And you couldn't really are. You dislike extremely confused. Can you kind of describe why it was so difficult to figure out what's one you could use are there? Just a ton of companies out there is there not a more. Most popular one is not a recommended one. Yes. So April, you're definitely more of a pro than I am when it comes to. I wanted to come into it from the perspective of the sort of average mainstream internet user, who may not be totally tech savvy privacy savvy, and it's just trying to figure it out because that's the kind of people that these VPN's have to appeal to and capture if they wanna go really big as some of them do and we live in an era where with so many things even if you have no expertise, you can just get online get on some review sites and find out sort of the collective wisdom of what's the best mattress to buy or what's the best. You know, home Mike home appliance or microwave, but with VPN's it turns out to be really hard. There's no consensus and different review sites. Have totally different criteria and accordingly. They arrive at very different conclusions. So one of the best reviewed sites on the web is one of the best reviewed providers expressed VPN. This is a paid service. It's expensive. It's known for. Being fast and reliable because one of the concerns with fans that they can slow your internet connection down if they're not if they're not really optimize. But an issue with express VPN is when you try to figure out who runs express VPN, they actually don't disclose who owns the company it is formally incorporated in the British Virgin Islands, but they have achnowledged that that's not really where most of their employees. Are they say their employers? Their employees are distributed around the world as are their servers, and that they won't tell you who owns the company for privacy reasons, I found it fascinating. Because other rival VPN services are using that to suggest that expressed UPN may not be trustworthy. So I talked to the CEO of anchor free, which is another one of the big companies they own hotspot shield, possibly the most popular VPN in part because they have a free offering. And he said, hey, you know, I heard that express VPN might be secretly based in China or have ties to the Chinese government. You don't want to be you don't want the Chinese government. Be having access to all your internet. Traffic do you. Now, he's probably trolling them. And maybe his out of line for doing that. But he's pushing on a point of vulnerability there because when a company won't tell you who owns it. It's hard to trust them. And one of the things about VPN's is you have to really trust them because all that internet traffic that you are no longer showing to your internet service provider like for Eisner Comcast. Now, you are trusting VPN with access to all of that. And they say the good ones say, they'll delete your your information. They don't keep logs of what sites you visit. They don't, you know, maintain data that tied to your identity. But how do you know? And so that's the problem with a lot of these services that are anonymously run. Right. And so, you know, you go to the app store, you look VPN, and you see all these options. And you know, I would generally just go at the one that's the most popular. But you said that the the one that's most popular you don't even know where it's. Based out of right? They're probably the express VPN is probably the best rated on on various review sites. Specially. But for the most popular that then you run into a different conundrum. So the most popular free VPN is hotspot shield that's run by anchor free. That's the company whose CEO and mentioned was was throwing shaded express VPN. But the problem there is whenever you use a free VPN, the company that provides it may not have a business interest in in really keeping your data safe and private they in fact, many freebie VPN's will target you with ads as you using the VPN so hotspot shield for androids still targets you for ads. Although they say that they do it only with generic ads targets as the run collecting your data. They say they do not collect your data. And we'll how are they targeting implies data? Right. So I used the wrong word there there. There are placing what they say are generic Google ads on the on the service while you use the. They say that they're not. Service. But I guess that's how it's free. Right. Exactly. So so a lot of experts will advise you to stay away from the free ones. And you know, if you really wanna VPN for privacy reasons us one that you have to pay for so all right? So the most popular one is out the cheapest one is the the expensive. Well, reviewed one has its issues with anonymity. So it's like, you know, who do you turn to at that point? And then one more twist is that if you talked to express VPN or other VPN's are anonymous they'll say, actually that's virtue. You don't wanna go with a company that's based in the United States or company where all their principles and employees are are well known or easily discoverable because then you run into issues like that in the United States. The NSA may becomes calling and says, hey, help us out we need to find we need to find somebody or. Maybe a government overseas knows who to apply pressure to try to get the information or tries to get them to store data on certain people. So their claim that anonymity is actually a virtue. I'm not sure I totally buy it. But certainly if you're going to do stuff, that's breaking the laws of the country you live in. Then there is good reason. To maybe go with a company that's not going to be subject to the jurisdiction of of that country. Yeah. I don't know if I buy because they should just be deleting that data right or not collecting data and can't really be compelled to collect on somebody. They can be compelled to give up something that they already have. Right. And so all the good VPN's now, especially the ones that you pay for him and just stay away from the free ones. All together, that's one clear-cut. Takeaway. There was a study recently that found actually ten of the top twenty freebie on the Android apps. Doors were based in China and. That is spacious because China has banned VPN's officially so if China's letting these free VPN's operate that raises the question of what's in it for China just better to steer clear, in those cases. But when we're talking about the paid VPN's the relatively reputable ones all the good ones say, they don't keep logs of your data or your traffic, but it's hard to know. Right. Like, how do we know? They don't have it somewhere. There are performance and usability reasons why a company might want to store that data. They have to get a little creative. If they want to run a really good service without storing any data one point in express VPN's favor is again, I said it's hard to know whether these companies really are storing logs or not there was a famous incident in twenty seventeen where the Russian ambassador to Turkey was assassinated whose shot and killed on live video at an art opening. You might remember news coverage of it. His name was Andrea Karloff. And in the investigation. Gatien? The Turkish government was trying to connect him to the US based cleric Fatullah Glenn. They long story short. They they discovered that express VPN was probably being used for encrypted communication in whatever. Conspiracy was going on behind the assassination. They manage to track down express UPN servers and sees them open them up, and there was no data. There were no logs. So expressly peon was revealed to be telling the truth about not storing the data, and now that kind of earned it credibility. Even though you might not think it's a good thing that they potentially helped an international conspiracy to assassinate somebody. But it's definitely like a a Mark in their favor. If you're if you're asking whether they really do delete, these lugs whole thing just feels murky. I'll just let people know what I use that. I'm curious what you landed on. I ended up using due to the advice of some security professionals that I work with professionally. Called private internet access. If you've called private says that you have to pay for but it's super not expensive, and it is super easy to use. You just kind of install it. And then turn it on when you want to use it and turn it off when you don't. What did you end up using? Are you not using one? Now, just like whatever I am. So I did leave it open ended in the story because I wanted to point to be that this isn't easy, right? It's the point isn't that? Eventually, you can figure out a company you trust the point for me was the average user is it's it's not it's not we're not at the point yet. When it's where it's easy for them to trust somebody that said, I've heard great things about private internet access. I ended up downloading tunnel bear which was a popular VPN that was acquired by the security giant McAfee a couple years ago, they have very comprehensive and clear privacy policies. They do offer free version if you wanna get started started, it doesn't have ads it's basically just freedom of advertisement for their paid service. But that's the way ended up going with can't say one hundred percent confident but felt more comfortable with them than I did with some others. I think people should use VPN do your homework. It's hard to do. Homework listener podcast, hopefully that'll help and hopefully recommendations we'll help to in just one quick caveat express VPN, which we mentioned in the show as advertised on this show in the past. Now, of course, we don't control the advertises on the show. We are the hosts, but we thought we should let you guys know that. All right. We're gonna take a quick break. And then we'll talk about another privacy story this week involving Facebook and two factor. Authentication? This episode is brought to you by the biggest BMW ever built the first ever accession, the sports activity vehicle has it all performance comfort and luxury and with three rows of seats. It's a big deal travel in style and all leather interior whether the opt for all electric captain's chairs or stick with standard bench seats in the second row. 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Facebook for two factor authentication, which means after you log in and then asks you to confirm who you are by texting you assuming that you're the only person that has access to your phone number. And then you put that you put that. Has access to a phone that receives calls from that number. You put the number that the text you in. And then it's definitely definitely you supposedly people volunteer their phone number for an extra level of privacy, which is generally recommended for people to to have on all accounts where it's offered just because if you are hacked people don't have access to your phone, so they can't get in. It turns out that Facebook was using those phone numbers that people offered for that extra level of privacy for things that were privacy invasive. I'm not sure exactly what happened. Well, can you can you break down in brief what what the drama there was? So the sort of privacy skin'll that's been unfolding in slow motion and sort of out of the public eye for the most part but about a year ago. Some Facebook users notice that they started getting notifications on their phone from Facebook, even if they hadn't attached their phone number to their Facebook account, and they found out that it was when they entered their phone number for two factor. Authentication? That's how Facebook got their phone number. Now when you do that the expectation is they're only going to use this for two factor. Authentication they're not going to suddenly tie it to your account and do other stuff with it. But clearly they were so Facebook apologized, but then it came out a few months later that in fact Facebook had been letting advertisers target you with the help of these phone numbers that you had applauded for security purposes. And now the latest is there was a Twitter user, actually, the title is chief emoji officer at the company emoji pedia, very twenty nineteen job title. Found found that Facebook has a setting that asks who can see who can look you up based on the phone number you provided and you can't opt out like your options are everybody, which I think is the default or friends of friends or friends. But now that you've uploaded that phone number for security purposes, you cannot opt out of Facebook letting people look you up based on that phone number and privacy advocates are just really peeved security advocates are peeved too. Because here's a case where Facebook sort of playing off your your desire for security with two factor authentication against your desire for privacy. And it just undermines trust more generally in the whole system of two factor authentication because if you can't trust that companies aren't going to abuse your phone number when you provide it. You can't trust that they're not gonna handed out to advertisers or sell it on the black market. Or God knows what them people are gonna stop doing two factor authentication, and then we've got a security issue like more broadly on our hands because that's to phase is the best sort of the single simplest step. You can do to keep from getting your account tact. Okay. So don't throw your hands up in the air. Want to protect your privacy. Yeah. There's one thing you can do so on Facebook and Google and some other services you can do to authenticate not with text messages, not with your phone number. But through a special app you download on your phone. That's now the recommended way to do it. But it's a little complicated for most people and not all services offered offer that option certainly too late. If you already gave Facebook your phone number. They've said we've we've got him. Now, we're gonna use them. But at least in the future, you can try to see if there's an option to use an app for two actor occasion instead of using your phone. Okay. I hope some people have a little piece of mind, or at least a little more knowledgeable. Thank you so much. Well, I'm glad you could join us on your podcast. Thanks. One final quick break. And then don't close my tabs some of the best things we've seen on the web this week. This is brought to you by Comcast business. We talk a lot about the pace of change in business. The change can only happen with the right partners. That's why Comcast built the nation's largest gig speed network, the network that powers innovation and now Comcast business is once again moving beyond beyond connecting business to helping you provide better experiences for customers employees beyond network complexity two zero touch one box network solutions beyond the best for your money to the best your business at an even greater value. 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But basically, the the conceit is that in each strip you see aliens on presumably alien planet, but they're doing very mundane human activities, but talking about them in in like sort of robotic terms, and it's just meant to convey like the weirdness of various social customs. So like in one strip the alien checks his watch and says friends arriving soon, let us store irregular shapes inside shapes with flat surfaces and the friends arrive and say your home is beautiful and then the alien ses. Thank you, we own things, but have hidden them, which I just thought like at any time Rekondo's just funny to to reconsider tidying up as storing irregular shapes inside shapes with flat surfaces, which I guess is basically what we do when we clean up. So that no one knows that we have stuff and crap in our house. Anyway, that's my tab this week. How about you April? Tab tabs. Is a dishonor headline for the New York Times with all due respect, usually fantastic Puerto editing team there, they had a headline. Google moves to address wage equity, and finds his underpaying many men other out that's also kind of focused on that. But what the story is about is Google released its some points or said that it finished its annual equity report. It turns out that in one category in one level of employee. It found dual found that men were getting underpaid. It shows to just share that one D two L selectively in a blog post on Monday. But it turns out that that was kind of shallow reading of the situation because Google looks at this whole like how equally pays people with. Thin certain job categories, but doesn't look at how people are signed into those job categories, which has been described by a former employees there as a sexist in other words, women, and and people of color kind of also so thin racist as well systemically getting placed into positions where they're going to be paid less. Even if they have the same level of experience has men who then get placed in higher positions. There was a better report on this. I recommend from the wonderful tasha Tico who've had on the show before and wired entitled are men at Google paid less than women. Not really she does a fantastic job of kind of breaking down the report a better. I recommend people read that story. Instead, if you see the very cliquey headline or headlines that talk about how Google found that. It's underpaying men, which is true. But. But that's not jump to conclusions here. Yeah. Kinda misses the bigger picture. Thanks for highlighting April. Interesting bit immediate criticism. 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Ep. 96: The Fifth Wave - Reinventing Education

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Ep. 96: The Fifth Wave - Reinventing Education

"Join host Jay Ruderman on the all inclusive podcast as he talks with one of the most recognized and respected journalists and America, Judy Woodruff from PBS news hour here, great insight from Judy as they talk about her career, her most memorable moments covering the news and advice for anyone who wants to break into the industry be on the lookout for new episodes of all inclusive every two weeks all inclusive. It's a podcast on inclusion and social justice brought to you by the Ruderman family. Foundation. The hit comedy curb. Your enthusiasm is coming back for an eleventh season. Be Sure to get the inside scoop on the show from Emmy nominated actress Cheryl hines. Who plays Larry's wife or spoiler? Alert EX wife, as she joins the all inclusive podcast with hosts, Jay Ruderman. Cheryl also gives insight into her acting career, dealing with those negative people on social media, her career in Improv and her amazing poker skills. Check out the podcast today. This is new. Do the virus recording from? C. You may notice a difference in audio quality. This episode of Niche World, Dr Michael Crow is a disruptor, an innovative leader in the field of education. He became the sixteenth President of Arizona State University in two thousand and two. and has spearheaded Asu's issues, rapid and round breaking, transformative evolution into one of the world's best public metropolitan researching versus. Through Dr Across leadership and Vision Arizona State University. has been named the number one most innovative school in the nation by US News and World Report for four years. Asu strives to make education accessible and affordable to any qualified student. They currently enroll hundred and sixty five thousand learners on campus and online. Fact. Magazine named Dr Grow Number Forty four out of the world's fifty greatest leaders and two thousand nineteen, and said quote crawl has spent seventeen. Reinventing Party School Asu. Has a higher at innovator heading satellite campuses, online degrees and partnerships to educate starbucks employees Uber Drivers. Enrollment at ninety eight thousand is no twice that a two thousand two and the student body is far more economically and racially diverse expansion has not hurt learn. Two percent of the students graduated for years up from twenty eight percent and two thousand two. He is the author of two books including his latest. V, way the evolution of American Higher Education. By, please welcome my guest butter. Michael. Grow President of Arizona State University. Dr Grow as we begin our discussion, who'd you start with? What's not working in higher education right now and one of the biggest issues we are facing I knew thanks for the chance to get together and talk and I really appreciate them the opportunity to speak with you. The issue that's out there now is that we have become obsessed with basically exclusion and scarcity as the driver's. The best schools are those that have the most applications in leading the fewest number of people that creates a tearing in the higher education system, where everybody is striving to become more and more exclusive that their evolutionary is exclusion. That then creates dynamic energy in all of the public colleges, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them where they are unable or unwilling to innovate and become trapped in a lot in bureaucratic. And the lockton bureaucratic model doesn't allow them to adjust and adapt, and then we're beginning to see a graduation rates go down or zinc costs accelerating somewhat out of control. The system then is cracking. Of the hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars have been spent on health grants since nineteen eighty in a generous moment of American culture where we're helping kids to be able to go to college, who can't necessarily afford it? More than half of those students never graduate. They have no degree or diploma or certificate anytime. It's terrible terrible, so functional constraints within higher education are a system built on excellence through exclusion and a lack of innovation in the rest of the system, because the system believes that exclusion is the path to excellence. Then there's no way to innovate to do. So. The system has become broken down with an inability to fulfill its public mission overly bureaucratized proven in an agency type model as opposed to an enterprise model. Those are the basic ends of things. I think that are going on. And you talk about the extraordinary death, the college graduates are facing. And how do we change it? Right now, the US government allows people to take. Loans under the name student loans, but they don't equate it or drive institutions, an students to success from those investments, so you can take alone bore car as a student loan, but there's no correlation with your completion at the university I'm deeply of the view that investments by the federal government, either in the form of grants or loans should be tied to the universities or colleges, and both the students and the college should be responsible for outs, and so we need more outcome oriented investment. I'm going to give you this investment, but I'm not just giving this investment, and then you get to do whatever you want. You have to make progress. You have to pursue your degree in so right now. Now what we have is runaway debts, and it's highly problematic and we a range of improvements. Did you become prisoners? You knowing the you're going to take on and fundamentally transformed education system. The answer is yes. I left my oil as deputy provost NFL Remember at Columbia University because I felt that the system, the higher education system and much of the education system US was failing, and it was failing because of a lack of willingness to reconceptualise the designed to return to the roots of our Egalitarian Society, and build institutions can operate that way, so the answer is yes. I came here hoping to be able to do some of the things that we've been able to do I'm always fascinated by. This genera issues us. What actually pulling it up what? We are opening steps back when he first got there. How did you get people to decide that? They wanted to go on your journey? I really focused on was a belief that faculty themselves and the staff of the university, and the people supporting overseeing wanted it to be successful at social scale that is that the initial conceptualization of the institution was be a powerful driver for the success of our democracy, but that dates sort of lost their way, and so the initial approach was to come in and to try to inspire the culture with a well defined purpose, since we outlined a purpose of the institution that ultimately evolved to be our charter, so what I really went after was culture change modernisation of culture empowerment of the culture, and that's not very easy to do, but that's where I started. You describe. How you imagine. The different. Audiences the you had to carry with you in order for this to work. I thought I needed to really say to the political leadership of the state into the. Other leaders of state let us be entrepreneurial. Let us stop being a government agency, and that was relatively easy to do near in Arizona. People listened to act on logic and I got a lot of willingness to say I. Want You shot? Just don't screw up. A second group was the faculty itself as I suggested which I had to be empowered disempowered all faculties by allowing them to become civil bureaucracies that endlessly fight within systems of resource scarcity. Contrived and it's not necessary. That's a second group. Third Group. was to convince the broader community of potential learners that the institution was going to be able to be adaptable to differences, different financial circumstances, different learning circumstances different interests, and that meant detangling the rigidity of the design of the institution to that group, and then we had to re think our relationship. You know even increased our fundraising by a factor of fifteen fifteen full, so we had to get people to believe in the institution into invest in the institution for its new purpose, not just the edification of self aggrandizement by the naming of things, but the actual investment in the institution itself. And so all of those groups had to be approached. In a unique in different weight, one of the more complicated groups of course is other university leadership around the country. Some of whom shared heartily rusted me successful than others who cheered heartily for us not to be successful in the sense of the fact that you're models pretty disruptive to the poor set of sanctions that are out, so it's a complex set of. Groups that once working with the make something happen. This as a former assistant professor, relatively small State College if I the Faculty member when you arrive, how would my life have been different? The last seventeen years. While, you would've found. I think more opportunity to work in an environment where there were barriers you could have connected with more people easily could have been easily minded to different schools. You would have been a part of schools not in every case, but many cases where you can set your own intellectual agenda. That is your own intellectual design. Three from just replicating things that existed in other places we would have delivered to you unbelievable technology to allow you to figure out how to project your own intellectual identity, which thousands of our faculty members have been able to do and so I. Hope that if you've been here is the fact that number growing up here academically that you would have felt empowered to have larger voice, larger, intellectual flexibility, larger impact, and that those things have motivated you. That's what I hope would happen to you as. I was. The coordinator of Burma Studies in the very early days this was. One thousand nine hundred seventies. When weren't they was big and as such floated on top of the various departments, so I had an had faculty loan to me, but it didn't own any church. How did the department's react to this kind of flexibility? Initially I think there was a great amount of skepticism coming for maybe a quarter of the faculty and the departments. Maybe another quarter of the faculty were like who really cares. They were just going to go out and do their thing. And maybe half the fact, Navy, half the units were interested in the ability new trajectories, so your experience that environmental studies is sort of an example, so imagine that we had environmental studies type things, but we had safety of those are hundred of those going on in different areas, and we allowed that to happen, and so what we didn't do. We didn't try to bring every single person long. Who brought along people like yourself? who were interested in doing some of these new things? And then we our them, and then we just let that start taking off on its own, so we created a catalytic innovative environment where innovation became a perpetual thing rather than an occasional thing, and that is true in the intellectual design of the institution, also not just in its structural designer administrative. Does I've read your work and talk with you. This has been a continuously evolving model and what you might have had in mind in two thousand and two or three is not necessarily what you have in mind in two thousand twenty. Because you're only sprints and the world of both changed, what would you say are the biggest changes in your understanding of how to lead institution like this and we're in his like this to go. That the lessons that I've learned in this time frame one is that this is extremely hard work. Because the scale of disciplines, the scale of the professorial, the world is so massive I think I underestimated the extent to which higher education the United States is valued because of scarcity, the scarcer the seat to enter the freshman class, then in theory, the veteran university, those are powerful forces. What we've had to do is basically saying that we're not going to follow. Those traditional trajectories which are kind of light sides show at Luzhniki environments as opposed to mainstream evolutionary environments I think what I've learned along. The way is that this is an evolutionary process. where, what we're trying to do is to our institution to be able to evolve I think the lesson I've learned is that that's really really difficult. Particularly when almost all of the actors are coming in from institutions that are acculturated differently, and so one of the biggest challenges has been trying to figure out how to balance out. We exist in a broader set of arrogation institutions while building this unique institution that's required need to be more patients than I might normally be and more flexible than I might think we need. You had a remarkably open. Admission policy. For a school, which is becoming an lead research institution, you're taking a lot of students who would not normally make it to the so-called elite universities, and you're transforming their lives. In an Asu kind of unique model both online and in person who's at a reasonable. Analysis completely reasonable, and it is in fact at the core of what we're trying to do the notion that a research university. In the populated only by the eight plus students from high school I think is a socially delimiting design. Who would have thought that your life state will be determined because you're a screw off in the eleventh grade, and ended up with a B. average coming out of high school. What we decided to do was to go back and say. What is the admission requirement? That allows you to be qualified to attend the university, and so we went back and looked at the admission requirements the University of California from Nineteen fifty. which was then a notification and regarded the average to be admitted in editing fifteen preparatory courses at least and be so those are mission requirements. Those are not the admission requirements for most research universities, but they are for us, and what we found is that the environment that we produce from? That is fantastic. What we've also found is unbelievable achievement, not only our incoming students but students. And then we have other pathways to come into the university transferring from community colleges, and then we have another thing caller college pathways program where you earn your way into the University of by taking bleeding college level courses successful. He represented state which has. Very complex demographic pattern between native Americans, Hispanic Americans African Americans, Asian, Americans and white Americans. was that there from the beginning, or did you gradually evolve into a much more open? An integrative approach. It typically wasn't there to the extent that it needed to be. We were not representative of ethnic diversity within the State's population at the university entrance. Where students the way we approach that was. We said that we needed to be representative of the totality of the socioeconomic diversity. It took US ten years to do that and once we did that once. Our student body represented families of all. All income levels where we broke down financial barriers, unlimited financial barriers sought students out found pathways to the university's program. So once we did that are ethnic diversity became more diverse than the population itself. The institution has more diverse today, both ethnically and socioeconomically than it's ever been at any point in its history, and it is as representative as the entire population. It's never been anywhere near that in its best. And even though you're making that accessible, you still rose in terms of. Quality of research. You're becoming a major world level research university while you're at the same time this Massif. General population. This is what everybody says is impossible. The model that we were attempting to demonstrate that I think we have demonstrated is that you can be highly accessible and highly excellent. One Measurement of excellence is research performance. You can do those two things in the same institution. Then you can add a third dimension which is the impact of the institution, so our research funding has gone from one hundred million. Million a year to almost seven hundred million a year without a medical school. 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A lot of other places could model off of this. And evolved into a very similar relationship with their community. I think there are other places that can do this. The argument in the fifth way book is that it's time for America's democracy to birth a new kind of university. These schools which are research, capable, scholarly, intensive, scalable, diverse, and projectable net is, they can project outside of the physicality of university itself. I think that there is a need for these kinds of universities, and there are several schools that are moving this direction and others that wanted. What am impressed with is not just what you do at the college level, but you run a significant number of K. through twelve institutions though to. Right we run. Eleven face to face full immersion charter schools with thousands of Students K twelve in low income neighborhoods, and we also run a digital preparatory academy, which has a high school embedded in it also, which has about twenty two thousand learners. That's amazing. What is that taught you about what the rest of the country should be doing in terms of K. through twelve, which in many ways is a much bigger problem for us than College Graduate School. Is a huge problem in the reason that we did they issue. Preparatory Academy All our K. twelve schools was we got sick of people telling us that everyone couldn't graduate from high school and sick of all the silly excuses that they had about this that, and so we decided to do was to taint lessons. We'd learned and tools that we'd built and teams that we thought that we can construct and design and deploy K. through twelve schools graduate everyone and move everyone into post, secondary education, either technical school or Or a community, college or university or the military, and so we've been able to do this and the lessons are that you have set that as a bowl, all assets after move for example no excuses. The use of technology is very very important. The use of analytics is very very important. The measurement of all things is really important. The culture has to be one built around the presumption of success rather than what we've seen in several cultures that presumption of failure so these K, twelve schools we've operated become. Powerful learning environments for us. Also I'll say one of the thing relative to them, and that is this gap between the universities and colleges in the cage, while it's an unnecessary and net negative. Yeah, we should take every asset that we have at the university and make it available to every. It doesn't diminish what's available to the university students by making available high school, students and connecting and so this is another thing that we're working you. Do you find that there are a lot of. K. Through twelve students who actually can do dramatically more? Serious were than would normally occur. K. Through twelve were low balling in every possible way in high school. We're not individualizing education enough in our issue digital two hundred college. Embedded into that preparatory academy for High School Students Take and they're doing very well in those. We've also found that. If even individualized learning using adaptive learning platforms, using other kinds of platforms that you can really find the pathway to learning high school students rather than just trying to force them through these times of industrial factories, those things just aren't going to work. Except in neighborhoods of very extreme resources of which there's very few those, and so what we do find is that learning potential is much broader than people seem to realize the structures Capacity limit to your academy could people. Sign up the country. There's no limit to they issue prep digital that scalable asking. We have students right now from all over. and. They have programs extending in Utah California discussions programs expanding in Georgia and in Illinois another puts. Would you take a minute and talk about when you wrote the fifth away the evolution of American Higher Education. Why did you pick the Title V wave? It has to do with the fact that there have been four distinct waves of American higher education evolution, the first way where the colonial colleges are Princeton Lumbia and tenor, so these existed at the time of the revolution, they were basically extrapolations of the British model, but not organized into universities they couldn't be built in the south for whatever reason they all were in the mid Atlantic the northeast and so Georgia South Carolina North Carolina then right after the revolution that universities going and then Jefferson got. Super Gina going right in the first quarter of the nineteenth century. That's the second way was the beginning of the emergence of the Public College, the idea of the public all which in the twentieth century, added Community Colleges and state politics. The Third Way was the product of America's diversification growth industrialization in agricultural fourth wave was the American idea of merging the German technical. Technical School with the British College. Hopkins was the first Stanford in Chicago where the second third they became philanthropic back prototypes of the American, research, university that was the fourth wave. Many many other schools like Arbor. Michigan California, ultimately, even Asu became fourth way schools in the suggestion of the V wave is that evolution didn't stop with the emergence of the American Research Universe. America's still evolving and growing and expanding and diversifying, becoming more and more complex of new models are needed, so the fifth wave is articulation of the idea for the new model. This adaptable, expandable innovative, technologically driven socially projectable new kind of university in a issue is the pro. I was really impressed at the very height of the code pandemic and people closing down Cetera, would you say? It's fine. The scale of it. You used and the fact that you didn't Miss Astrid so many places closed down or they had berry ineffective. Online learning but nobody knew what they were doing. Swaying POW. asu Del with the Kobe shutdown. When, we realized that we couldn't come back to complete the spring semester in March. We were able to successfully in forty eight hours than birth to a new mode that we actually now have new modality for the university asu sink, which is shorthand for synchronous, which means zoom enabled technological projection of university. We trained in zoom technology thousands of fact members who had already been trained in digital technology also. We were able to move eleven thousand forces into zoom mode, and by the end of the semester we had used about three hundred million minutes of zoom with as many as ninety thousand people tied in at one time in fact soon told us that we were one of the five most significant consumers of their technology on the planet. We did also for our K twelve charter schools didn't miss a day. We in the highest completion rate of the spring semester that we've ever had meet about seventy five percent of the students that we serve. It said that they're learning experience as good or better. Twenty percent said about the same, only about five percent said that it was worse, so we felt that that was a successful outcome. We learned a lot or the fall semester. We will have three modalities that were operating in Asu, fully immersion on campus. If we're able to reassemble, they issue synchronous emergent, which is what we did with zoom and then Asu digital immersion, which is online we record enrollment for our summer school sixty thousand students in summer school. School right now in our sync mode in our digital mode I really give it to our faculty into our it team. They were able to completely more the institution out. This is not just a casual thing. You should see the work products that came out of our design school and our music school, the musical performances that our students were able to carry out using technology. They are astounding. We were very happy that we're able to make this adjustment so. If you think about your own trajectory. Over the last eighteen years. And you then look out to fifty years well. We'll education be located want. By then we will have to move to a mode of. Learning being a lifetime thing, not a thing early in your life before age twenty five. You will come in and out of various types of institutions. Some colleges and universities will stay isolated. Everyone will have to be finishing. I woven mastering school. Everyone laugh to become involved in education throughout their life just to came up with the rate of technological advance the rate of changes. It's all gonna be within single generations, even fractions of generations, and so I think it's going to be about speed and adaptability as well as how do we find a way fifty years from now to teach in ways in which we can still capture the totality of history. As expanding evolving at orders of magnitude more complexity than it had in the past, and so we're gonNA need more innovations and different models of learning and teaching, and I think it's hugely important bird species. The National Debt is nearing twenty five trillion dollars with the trillions more spender in covert nineteen. What impact do you think that will have on the value of the dollar? The, US has already spent more than six trillion dollars on the coronavirus. Who Do you think is going to pay for that? Gold and silver are your hedges against inflation and global instability. On stocks gold will never be worth zero. Protect your savings and your retirement with precious metals. Birch Gold Group as a company. 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China obviously isn't immensely complicated place that is coming up on its fifty year of an open relationship with the United States President Nixon's opening a China and its fortieth year of evolving into a form of modern economy, and in both cases, the accelerated rate of dynamic change given where they were before. That is so astounding. It's hard to describe. China is a place in which they are approaching a different value system than we have, but it is a scaled economy scale culture that I'm hopeful that we can find ways to successfully work with China in a way where we avoid global superpower conflict and that we find some way to work together. Would has your experience been like working in China and trying to have a relationship with Chinese higher education. Generally positive, we have a big program. In Hainan Province with thousands of students working with high nine university, we operate a program with our business school in Shanghai with the Shanghai National Accounting Institute. We built an American Culture Center. At Szechuan University former ambassador Johnson junior asked me to see if I could facilitate the building of American culture centers in Chinese universities, thirteen of them going leading the one that we started. To Negotiate with the university's Party officials, they had to work our way through the provincial governments to work our way through the national government. I have a lot of interactive experience. Just getting program started launching. Them weren't making them successful on what I find is that they are? Significant admirers of the American origination system of American universities of American research universities. To be a scholar in China is socially more status oriented than it is in the United States by a long shot. I think that there is a strong and potentially operative set of relationships that can be derive within the academic structure. It can set up a set of rules that are fair. Chinese students day issue. Yes me had last year about thirty four hundred students from China. At A, we won't have that many this year because of. Travel restrictions and complexities, and so on you try to also afford an opportunity for your students to go to China. Yes we have programs in sustainability programs in other areas culture language, yes. Perrotta a book last year on trump versus China focusing on his Asia, and being in the Chinese communist dictatorship, but I couldn't attach chapter in there. That says not China's false. And I, no, you can't blame the Chinese for example if the Baltimore school systems have entire buildings or nobody's been able to pass. That is not China's fault while you're trying to accomplish. The one of the great drivers in the next twenty years is going to be. The current US education system is simply incapable. Of preparing young people to compete with China that the quality of work, the seriousness of were. That Chinese are engaged in is just dramatically different. Than, we are currently used to that just from a national security, standpoint and education is going to become a national security issue. What do you think we need to do so that the next generation of young Americans who be tabled all of competing with their counterparts in China. In the US. Whenever reason we don't realize the nature of the competition. We're like the family, three or four generations into the family. That can't any longer remember how they got wealthy. In China, they're the scrappers there the first generation, the second generation, giving wealthy. We don't realize the nature of the competition competition is. Who is the most industrious who is the most innovative? The hardest working was the most creative Buchen produce the most engineers or the most creative digital artists, and it's all things we don't realize that the world's economy led by China has become a true competitor. We're not Kirby condition to have a long-term competitor correct. We're delusional to think that somehow such a competitor is a net negative such. A competitor is a net positive rules affair, because it will stimulate rates of innovation and rates of creativity and rates of expression and rates of economic growth that will benefit everyone and we don't see it that way. I think that's why we're doing. With. The K. through twelve students in the ASU system is really important as a potential prototype for a lot of other people learn from and to see to what extent they could develop. Similar Patterns Peer Brilliant physicist or mathematician at thirteen. You ought to learn as much as you can learn. Yes because you'll probably drop out, I've been to probably thirty or forty different Chinese universities, maybe more than that, and any any laboratories in dozens and dozens of companies over there. We decided in two thousand nine to quit listening to the rhetoric that nobody in the United States is interested in being an engineer. That's false. Many people are not interested in the way. Our engineering schools were so in two thousand nine. We had six thousand students. Students in engineering we had weed out culture. Sixty eight percent of the freshman made it to the end of the freshman ear, and the rest thirty two percent were obliterated along the way so in the ten years since then we've grown engineering from six thousand students to twenty five thousand students here at issue, seventeen, thousand on campus and eight thousand online. We've taken fresh retention from sixty eight percent to ninety percent and we've done this with. The numbers of new kids coming in from every family background imagine who want to be engineers. Now the do that. We had to eliminate all eleven of our engineering departments and their names industrial engineering civil engineering. We'd graded grand challenges engineering programs. We built technology platform, so the notion was. How does America compete with China relative to the production of young talented engineers, just as an example in the answer is you do not sit back and wine. You must innovate. You must adapt. You must move forward in new ways and we've been able to do that, so we're producing several times. The number of engineering graduates that we were and many times. The number of engineering graduates that are limited are minority students than. We were because we decided to do that. That and that's going to be the only way that we're going to be able to be competitive, not just in engineering. It's GonNa. Be Scaling and adapting and diversifying and taking advantage of the totality of our culture, which we haven't been able to do by the way since it's GonNa come back in thirty, two, three, hundred, thirty five million people. This is a massive entry rowing, the four, hundred, four, hundred and fifty million before your twenty seventy timeframe, unless we start building hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of new colleges and universities, which were not going to do. We're going to need a new scalable model, and that's what we're figuring out how to do also. Listen, thank you for doing this. I appreciate you taking the time. Now I'll answer your questions. Ran From Georgia writes. Thank you all you do to conservatives educated. Can you please explain why requiring people to wear masks? Safety of others? Especially seniors is not against the constitution. It's my constitutional rights into the loudest rallying cry. Those who do not want to wear masks. Well there are provisions in the constitution for suspending things they usually relate to insurrection or civil war, but you can make an argument to say large enough public health crisis that the community at large has the right to impose rules. There was a very famous case many years ago and bobbing woman call typhoid Mary who had a bearing, unusual case typhoid and they couldn't cure. And wherever she went, she was tight-lipped, which was killing people, even the medicine of her generation, and so automatically she wasn't. Walked into a house, although she could not leave the house and they brought her food. They tried to get her things, but they were very strict because wherever she went. She infected people. Now historically, we don't require random people who are not sick where masks and historically we don't quarantine healthy cartoon. The say so I have to say as a historian I have been totally confused by how screwed up. I don't understand it. I can't understand the numbers. My younger daughter Jackson Cushman is a certified financial analyst and used to run a billion a year budgets were. Also joint venture and she said she has never seen data has. An impossible understand as the data we get about the fire. It's so whether that is pure incompetence or whether it's delivered. I don't know I am very uncomfortable and I'm saying this you from Italy where we went through a ten week. Absolute lockdown with ONA, grocery stores, pharmacies and gas stations open with a thirty two hundred dollar fine. You're in the street without a legitimate reason, would everything quotes, but now Berkeley, everybody's out on the street. In and museums are opened. The restaurants are open. What forty percent of people wear masks? But it's really much more actually. And, frankly the idea, for example, the Governor California just closed zooms is utterly stupid. I mean if anything you want public spaces for little kids be able to go out, and these kids are going crazy. Walk up particularly here in a poor neighborhood, and you're very small arms. You have no space, no opportunity and the idiot governor who's very wealthy, sitting up there Sacramento with his. Nice Winery Napa Valley decides the. You can't even go to the zoo and the ninety. Four year old. Them are having a problem out in the open. At the San Diego Zoo and the San Francisco Zoo or the Griffith Park Zone Los Angeles. This is just men's and we seem to be I think caught up in an age of panic and fantasy short resembling waves in the middle, ages when people would go from town to town beating on themselves, call the fledge. And, we now have a whole series of Titians. Who should sign up for the Pledge Alani Excel? They're determined to beat on us if the government wants to beat on himself, that's fine, but I don't want him to beat on me or other people, and that's where we I. Think of the dumber politicians. You're watching as the Jalani, look it up. See what it was like in the Middle Ages and you'll understand exactly what we're living through. It is a totally mindless anti-science experienced those nothing. And everything to do with political ideological incentive. Thank you to my guests Dr Michael Crow you can read more about Arizona State University and his book. The fifth way on our show page newsworld world dot COM. Neutral is produced by Gingrich from sixty an IHEARTMEDIA media. Are Executive Producers Debbie. Myers and our producers Garnsey slow. The our work for the show was created by Steve. Special Thanks Team Gingrich me. please. Email me with your questions. Gingrich three sixty dot com slash questions. I'll answer them in future episodes. If you've been enjoying mutual I. Hope you'll go to apple podcast and both rate us with five stars and give us a review, so others can learn what it's all about. The next episode of mutual. 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Arizona State Media Day with Charli Turner Thorne, Robbi Ryan & Taya Hanson

Inside Pac-12 Women's Basketball

12:58 min | 1 year ago

Arizona State Media Day with Charli Turner Thorne, Robbi Ryan & Taya Hanson

"How huge Russell Robbie Ryan gets into the box for? They provide themselves opportunities because the way they played defense. Nice take five Irish. She gets the bucket go Ryan steps into the three and fans at this Arizona. State team is very deep. This was a team effort by Arizona. State that is what we are used to seeing that we say. Welcome inside our PAC twelve network studios taking a closer look at the Arizona State Sun Devils the winningest coach in program history. Charlie Turner Thorne Mary. Murphy Ashley Adams and back with you. So it's like death taxes in twenty one seasons in Tempe six straight twenty one seasons for you. You're coming off a sweet sixteen appearance. You've been doing this awhile. What you're feeling about the team this year coach. Well I mean it's you know there's our secret sauce is just obviously you know our our our toughness and our chemistry and we work on that year round so but we. We're we're excited. We have a lot more athleticism. This year I mean you know finishing fifteenth in the nation. Okay we we like that but we. We had the kind of change our style a little bit last year. So we're going to be back to much more high octane. Uptempo are underclass led by Taylor. Hanson disbursal athletic. And then we've got our our great senior class led by Robbie Ryan Reilly Richardson. Who are? There's nothing happened to see you know they've been toe to toe the best players in the country. So so we're excited trilling when you look at the stat sheet from a year ago you know you might take out a violin and say oh. They've lost so much scoring but when I look at your team and the experiences that they've had what you have coming in like I'm pretty fired up about your your squad and what what the possibilities are. What did they say Mary? We're all replaceable right. So it's you know you move on and every step in and Yeah I mean. Those seniors were amazing for us and we will miss them but they also got the majority of the shots you know lowered about the rebounding but no no but we. Yeah we have people moving into really. We have a lot of returners so we haven't experienced team and yet we've added some great pieces and our sophomore class got experienced but now they're ready to play the big minutes so I mean I think scoring-wise wise we hope to be better. We hope we were the best shooting team in warm ups in the country last year. Okay man you would just ask quit. Mom You guys missed one. Shot right and then the plate and we didn't shoot poorly but we weren't at that clip and so we are working on that. The addition of djitap graduate transfer from USC great size and athlete. What she brought and she's got a lot of enthusiasm as wealth senior on twitter. You can sing. She can dance a lot going on. You know we. We did post that in we watched. She's an amazing young woman and she's incredibly talented And you know to have somebody so fortuitous for us of course because of what we lost to get a six two six three four five post fire that can defend that can score. I mean you know. She is absolutely going to help us. A ton and she's a great teammate. When we obviously when she was looking to when we were kind of looking then also first thing we bet you know is this person. Are they going to be a great teammate? And she's well you gotta be right. Yeah you do and she she is. She's fantastic. She's really going to help us. Coach you mentioned toughness as sort of secret sauce to your program. How do you work on that? You know it's it's go to a practice as well. I mean we're not old school. We're not like okay. Let's rerun up a mountain and one hundred ten degree heat and stuff. I mean it's it say it's your emotional mental fitness. You know it's it's how how were you able to stay in the moment. It's how we say. Relaxed potty combine joyful spirit. Okay so for mastering that. We're GONNA perform every time out You know there's a there's a there's a physical element to to. I mean our first weekend out. We brought Dan the man out and we were. We're doing our little military training and and you know just setting the tone for you know. There's there's we're never coming up short it's competitive greatness. One truth as a team. We're GONNA have faith in ourselves in the process and we're gonNA love the game. I'm ready to play. Yeah let's go. Let's do it for warm up. I'm really good in warmups. That's about it. I know your your youngest son. Quinn is a big on a huge basketball way into it and as he watches your team this year with what's his take his take. Okay so yeah meg. Sanders is my special assistant. He's my special assistant to the assistant you know he knows. I bet you he could tell you. Everybody's in the PAC twelve. Everybody's preseason schedule was looking yukons is like I didn't think it was strong enough. And then he did and he would tell you if he was here today if he set his own if he sent his analytics to the stability of the RPI would be out. You know and be shifting to the net. So he's he's He's a one of the biggest basketball fans in the country. And especially for the Devil's always a big fan of you. It pretty easy. He's a big fan of of our program. Yes thank you. We are as well so thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it looking forward to this year. We're not done talking about the Sandoval Scott standing by with a couple of stars over on the side so you got gate and that's right. Got a couple of stars that I'm sure that's never nation recognizes Robbie Ryan. She's been around for a few years now and tell. You Hansen who is now sophomore down in Tampa. And that's really where I wanNA start because as your coach was just talking about kind of a changing of the guard this year. Three starters moving on but a lot of seniors like you robin on a sophomore are back so I want to start with you your focus this off season with one year of just being in the states and playing college ball under your belt. What was the focus is off season? Yeah I mean the coming in as a freshman getting that year under my belt. It's so huge. Just on and off the court. It makes a world of difference. In so this off season I really just tried to focus on like versatility and having my knock down three point shot but also being able to get that pull up game going and being both finish up the rim to and then just coming in on the court and just working hard in the off season and bring my teammates with me. Well it seems like they worked on everything so I hope you've got to work on something to what was your off season. I think big focus minority just came back into better shape in Also just just kind of scoring mentality and just catching and be ready to shoot so okay and I want to talk about last season. Real quick to end. Y'All had you got to go down and your first Ram game. You beat one Florida team. And then you get host Miami in the second round and we're GONNA see the end of this ball game Ravi with the steel who then she gets fouled with under ten seconds to play. And what does she do steps to the line? And drains the free throw you knock off another Florida school the home hosting Miami Hurricanes yet? Vance to the sweet sixteen for both you. What did that win? And maybe even the sweet sixteen game that you didn't win. What are those two games do for you as a well? First of all just Super Fun. What amazing experience we had on. I think it just kind of instilled confidence in our team and people who haven't been there before we belong there like we're up there with some of the top teams in the country. Yeah you hadn't been there before you know. It was incredible experience. I am so thankful that we made it all the way to the seat six. Then that's thanks to robby. Gordon had an awesome tip there too. But it's just it's so exhilarating and we're really trying to bring that momentum into this season no doubt about anyone else who had a great game. Jamie Rudin coming Ashley. She's dealt with a lot of injuries over her career. So maybe one or two words. When you think of Jamie Rubin what are what are some more come to mind? Quick Offense. And also just just tough. She's been through La and she just always grinds through it and pushes through and I just tried to help our teammate. Our team and teammates in as much as you can so it's been great. I roomed with her first year. Collagen we've my best friend cents. So it's been great to see Jimmy grow and become the woman she is today. Someone else. A couple of words stay on Riley. Richardson other double. That always throws us. We're doing a show just announced his. Jackie calls me Riley. Jackie anything rally. Richardson Point Guard Riley. She's just the rock of our team on are definitely with their offense and she definitely brings that composure. She's a playmaker and she can hit that shot to remodel. She's common so tunnels all about. Oh yeah sorry. You're sparkplug off the bench Kierra Russell. I mean does it get a lot of pub? Maybe because you'll have so many good players but when you think of Kierra Yeah. She just works her but she gets it done on. Defense gets us. Those extra tip steals yes. She's definitely afford general to helping your teammates. Yes she said if you injury so we're really excited her back to the floor. So yeah we're excited and we talked about a specific Grad transfer with your coach. Charlie just a couple of minutes ago. Tv Taffy we not better. You were smiling pretty big when she was talking about it. Yeah she's funny. I'll tell you a lot of a lot of personality enthusiasm on the Basketball Court A lot of schism in just experience in the area. So it's great to have her med experience. Your International Experience Day wondering what playing for team. Canada has helped you with what you've learned and you've been able to bring to Asu. Yeah well it's just been such an incredible experience being able to play international ball. This summer I was in Bangkok and I've been in Mexico before that in Spain. And just all that experience disallows me to really read and grow in being able to play against the that better competition like you're playing against the best players in the world so being able to just go hard after them and also just learned from the whole experience. A really shapes you in on and off the court well and it's almost like she knew my last question. Robbie because I know that your your upbringing in Wyoming really shave deal and Shakti much. It's on your arm. Can You? Shop those Gorgeous Tattoos Lane. What's done yeah elegance? While she's doing it. Yes so just kind of my first year out of College. I got like Mallon's in just the rest of the remind me home and I grew up at the base of the mountains in Riesling I just got the bison which is on our state flag and Indian paintbrush. Were safe lower so I love being for Meiomi really made me who I am today and I'm proud to tell both of you proud of it from where you're from and where you are now so Ravi Teja awesome here today. Best of luck this year can't wait to watch you and the rest of the devil's Lake Mary back to you all right. Thank you so much. I'm a little bit. Maybe we should get Charlie back up here and her son. Tattoo. Let's move on. Let's move on okay. They lose for high scores their top four five scores as you mentioned. Obviously no violent being pulled out in Tempe. Hope what are you most excited looking forward to the sandoval squad. This team is talented. They AB- depth. They know how to win. They know how to get focused. They have a coach and a coaching staff. That fires them up. They got a new assistant in Nikki. Blue played at UCLA. Who's GonNa come in and do a fantastic job? They've had international experience over the off season. They have momentum coming in. I'm thrilled I'm excited. I think they're going to just do great things. They work hard every day and they have. There's just so many good things I could go on on and on it's going to. It's going to be a great year and it's interesting because they they've made it to the end of tournament sixty years which is a program record. It's unbelievable the consistency that rich Riley building in Tempe. What's the ceiling for the squad? I don't think there is a ceiling. Because they don't set ceilings in Tempe they bust through ceilings. And that's what they're going to keep doing this year. Amen all right. I like that Maryland. Fired up to marry gets fired up. Fires me up your elsewhere fired up for her to get back to Vegas the NC Double A. Tournament. Excuse me the women's PAC twelve women's basketball tournament heading back to Vegas this year. It's going to be at the home of the Mandalay conformed to that. You can lock in your tickets. Pac twelve dot com slash tickets. Get them while they're hot. And Reminder you can follow basketball this season by downloading the PAC twelve. Now you can set alerts to make sure you never miss a moment of the action packed. Twelve now available on your store for IOS android and Apple TV.

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What's a Narwhal's Tusk For?

60-Second Science

02:57 min | 1 year ago

What's a Narwhal's Tusk For?

"This is scientific Americans sixty seconds science. I'm Jason Goldman deep beneath the frozen surface of the Arctic Swims Unicorn and reality. It's a whale with the spiral tusks sprouting from. Its head the Narwhal. Biologists have long debated the purpose of male Narwhal tusks. The task like those of elephants are actually elongated. Teeth is Nar. Walls are usually below the race. It's tough to see how they use their tests. It turns out. We don't know pretty much anything about them. Because they're impossible to study really in the Wild Arizona State University evolutionary biology graduate. Student Zachary Graham. He wondered if the males tusks were a sign of status as a potential reproductive partner. Comparing tusk size to the wheels overall body size could provide evidence one of the main trends. That it's been documented over hundred different animals. One hundred different traits is disproportional growth. We call that hyper elementary and all that means is that the sexual trait is growing disproportionately compared to the rest of the body. So it's not like the biggest nor wall is just a scaled up version of a baby. Narwhal what we toughed is disproportionately long and then we also see that. There's intense variation so grandma and his team turned to measurements collected from two hundred and fifty adult males over thirty five years. The majority of them are from the inuit hunt so the inuit have been killing our walls for thousands and thousands of years in any time they do that. The Greenland Institute of Natural Resources Them to collect data turns out the length of us can vary widely even for males the same size ranging from a foot and a half to more than eight feet the finding in the journal biology letters the top tusks thus appear to be like a billboard that shouts look at me on the biggest after all only the strongest best fed individuals can afford to produce such an ostentatious ornaments. Of course Tusk can do more than just say you doing the fact that these nor was always have the scars on them makes us think that it's likely communication structure that also functions as a weapon for grand. There's also a larger issue some evolutionary biologists have recently proposed by apotheosis at groups of animals with elaborate sexual signals are more likely to specie eight and diversify than those without. We know that the world's changing around us more than ever so understanding how and why some species are going to be able to adapt and deal with. This is key. If we're to protect and manage species that we have on earth today. Thanks for listening. For Scientific Americans sixty seconds science. I'm Jason Goldman.

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Isabel Hernandez, Founder CEO of Adorned One

Bellwethers Podcast

26:34 min | 3 months ago

Isabel Hernandez, Founder CEO of Adorned One

"You're listening to bellwethers podcast with matthews. Joseph hey guys thank you so much for tuning into the bubbas. The spot gas matthews have once again. We are back and welcome to the new edition in the laments month. The special that we have been running throughout the month of march and today we have someone who actually build is building. A clothing brand called the editor wants so without further ado. Let's welcome the bahamas. she is actually the founder and ceo of down one so isabel. Thank you so much for joining us. Welcome to bellwethers podcast. Yes thank you for inviting me here. I feel so blessed to be here. And i hope i can inspire some women out there so does it. That's great so yeah once again. Thank you for joining so. Do you might Shedding a bit about yourself in a nutshell. Yeah of course so. I'm isabella i'm twenty five years old. I'm a fellow. Jesus follower here. I have a business degree in supply chain management at the moment and i'm currently working on a nine to five job for a tech company whilst pursuing my side hustle and mike god-given vision that he has given me at the lord has given me. So it's it's been a journey. And i just wanted as sit here cher. What my journey has been like so far with all of that. So yeah that's that's why i'm here. That's a little bit about myself. Yeah thanks so much for that. But i think you know you working. You're working your passion also working for a job. And i think that's amazing you know and i think that's i you know. I think that really hopes and inspires and motivates people to follow their passion. Or god has actually put out in that so i just want to go ahead and ask you the first questions are what prompted you to start something like the i don't i don't one. Yeah so it's it's been a journey. So after i graduated from Arizona state university and started working my nine to five job. I i hope this huge void in my heart like something was missing and it was bothering me so much right soon after you know god took me through a storm and this was back in two thousand eighteen. I'm so not too long ago. So on happened was i moved to portland oregon. Which is a very rainy city right. You don't have a lot of sun. And i grew up in arizona so i'm used to and i'm used to being surrounded five family and friends so this was definitely a new journey and i was diagnosed with lupus. You know i went through a harsh break up. And i had a job that i truly honestly did not like and i guilty myself into thinking like that. I need that. I need to stay and shame on me because i have a job sort of i had that mindset them. You know that. I should be staying here and i shouldn't feel the way i'm feeling because i have a job and i should be grateful. And that's it you know. I lost my hair actually had al sharia. I gained weight. And i lost my purpose in life. I i lost. God and i couldn't find any friends support me so in this storm right. I drew close to god and he started answering me in the strangest ways like he'd give me small hints here and there and then i just flat out asked godwin. What is it that you want. What what am i supposed to do you know how. How do i know what my purposes in my life and he can answer me all of a sudden right he. He just gave me small hints here and there and you know he started to actually restore my life. My health my heart and my mind set for all being restored and i moved out of the rainy city. I a new job. I dropped forty one pounds. And i even gave my hair back and i stopped my lupus medication. So in all that in like in through that journey. I realized like there was something that i've always wanted to pursue that's entrepreneurship and even though it was throughout months that god was giving me small hinson there than i needed to pursue something bigger was the actual moving part when i started to move slowly. And surely through god's word he was confirming to me what it is. He wanted to do right so in prayer. He told me About five resources he would be sending me this year to bless my platform and i've confirmed to so far and that was distinct called the life on fire challenge. I don't know if you've ever heard of it. It's a great platform Ho- side can megan right correct. Yes and now. They're also the business coaches that i've hired and i'm telling you got confirmed these through signs like there was supposed to be a rainy day in arizona and it was like one hundred percent confirmed that it was going to rain tomorrow or sorry not tomorrow but in that time was gonna rain the next day and so i asked them like. This is what you want. i. I need a sign. If it doesn't rain tomorrow. I am confirming that. This is the will that you want and it did not rain. There were clouds. It was caught in the entire time and there was not a drop of rain that day and so that was my speech. Now i'm like. Oh my gosh. And it was like even the weather like the next day after that day that it was supposed to rain. It just poured the next day like after it was just i. It was unbelievable. And you know. Even though. I'm still in the early stages of my business. I know that in god's timing my vision in helping and inspiring women all around the world will come to pass and i'm declaring it so if you're listening to this and you haven't launched your business that got calling you to do. This might be your sign. I don't think it's anything as a coincidence. And i just think it's god working so maybe you're also in the early stages of your business than i'm here to remind you and encourage you to keep moving. Your your obedience can answer someone else's prayer for sure so yeah as love that story adding something that you would. Would you said when he went to the break up any new. You were diagnosed with the disease. And you know you're like you gained some weight and you know you're like i mean it's like you know you thought that was the end right. You know you you probably at that point. I'm dan you know and then God's comes through saying you don't know you may be done. But i'm dan and then you know he's just like like like the light that just you know. Brush us into that room and you open the open. The curtains on the blinds in god's breaks through That's amazing you know ended up people who listen to this and i'm pretty sure that might be somebody who's going to some of these at least at one of those and i think it's going to be a huge inspiration with them to see due to embrace what god has actually set for you and to to to to go after to discover your purpose and and you know it's it's it's never easy unites. Never easy with god but you know but when you put your trust in him that spend it becomes easy and you know for the normal human. Visit him and indulgence. It's not easy to trust. God but when you put when you put into it you know put up Be like a kid being foolish enough to believe that god still has a planet even at your hitting rock bottom. I think that's what makes a difference. Yes it's through the storm that he changes you and he molds for character development. It's it's amazing. It's amazing yes so i didn't want to our next question. So how do you expect. The add on one can exist as a fusion of spirituality and creativity so you know i talked a little bit about inspiring women already but let me elaborate that. Because i think it's tied to your question so this platform is actually meant to inspire women to pursue god's calling for them wherever he has placed you to be. I believe god desires for us to bloom where we are planted and i think that as followers of christ we should be the best we can be to bring laura god and it can start with something as simple as your attire. You know when you go to a job interview you put on your best tire to impress employers right or maybe there came a time where you wanted to propose to your special someone it also put on your best tire likewise. I think we should do the same thing in our daily lives to bring glory to god now like please don't misinterpret this as to me saying you're supposed to wear her like pearls everyday quite the contrary but if your call to be a public speaker for example or artists or a businesswoman whatever it is god has has has for you he do yourself a favor and press the best. You can be and feel good about yourself. Don't lean her in the shadow. You know lights. We're called to be lights and like standout be humble be authentic and make people think like while there's something different than her about her. That's making me want you know it's driving me to her and i want to know more about this person. You know what likely to give off. I want to know what is that lay. So that's that's where. I want the door one from to exist between reality and fashion. If you will right a god wants to be in everything and that even includes fashioned so it's important to you know strive for great things in this world. Just not lose yourself in the worldly things so yeah. That's that's that's a perfect and you know it's like you know using fashion. As as a tool to tell. Tell i mean to speed god's word Live over people. And i think that's that's amazing. You know when. I think it's like today. We actually live in while the most acknowledged the atlantic times. And there's like the most advanced Point that i mean is gonna advance again. The future but for now does like the point. Everything is like the super advance. And you know when you see people leveraging technology in icy like just open tiktok recently I see all these kids. Fifteen years and fully near kids putting up the still putting a video but god and i'm like wow i mean that's like using taking taking emmy using that as a medium to reach other people. Tell them about god. I mean that's not easy to do. I mean denying everything that they stand for denying everything they are and accept and giving them to jesus and you know to see a path breaking influence of jesus into their lives to have another see them. They see geez. I think that's amazing end today. And we need your leverage even technology I see so many people on social media. You know doing videos and facebook and instagram. You know even on twitter and youtube people getting up people people using everything that is to preach the gospel to reach everywhere. And i think we need to do that as entrepreneurs you know we think the corporate world is like the ones that need. Jesus the most. And i think it's time we rather step into them and you know influence them You know so that they know jesus more than anybody else. They need to know them. They knows easily like at this point. Everybody needs seasons like inside the most needed thing today. We need and because of broken world needs. Jesus that's what does That's what need that's what is needed right now. Right and i think it's super important to to your point with that like We live in a time. Where i feel like the resistance to jesus is only getting greater so we really need to do our part using these platforms and inspiring people to take a second look. Know there's something different about us so yeah one hundred percent. I totally agree with you. All right let's just more onto the next question. And i ask you this like you know in a time. And they're like so many brands and titles emerging in the feel of fashion. And how do you think. Why do you think i don one is needed and you know how do you on one is gonna make the difference. Oh yes. I really liked this question true. Nowadays there's tons of wonderful brands. You know coming out filled with like you know desirable aesthetic if you will but you know the reason why felt there was a need for during one was to present a different point of view on the aspect of fashion so you think about aesthetics lifestyle beauty trends and ultimately end up in the act of comparison. Right sometimes That's that's that's what happens every time you pick up your phone and you look through instagram. When you're browsing through that you know and prior to having a deep relationship with jesus. I constantly compare myself saying these brands on social media and the acid self stole my joy and it really gave me low self self esteem so i wanted to create something that was more authentic and yet inspiring warm and inviting. You know like. I said god wants there to be a light in everything and that includes fashion. So that's why. I'm believing that god is using to bless the women out there who feel unworthy now to the ones who feel like they aren't enough. I was there and it's a horrible feeling. Attornal one was to remind the world that even though it's great you know to be around nice things and all that stuff you don't. That's that's not what defines your value. Got to find your value and gadgets spreading the gospel through that is is the reason why i feel like adorned. One was needed. Share of yeah think. That's you know that's pretty important. Point that you dislike struck. They're you know spreading the gospel through like fashion. Like like you said earlier. And i think that's amazing and i think that's much needed and what you're doing is to inspire a lot of people and you know And i tell us To my team worked with. And i tell them you know. The world defines us by our success in the world defines house successful. You are so you didn't even when people get he's okay. how successful. how how far have you come up in your career. And what binding stand. What do you have. What are the what would what all things do you think you have. So that's what the what defines is like they the one word a success but when god defined by faithfulness and you know and then when everything comes out and enter the idea that they going to ask you in your bag when you're having you know. Why did he do with what i gave you. And you know. And i'm pretty sure that we have a right and a What we do. What did we try. We try to make a different retired in inspire people to follow. Jesus did you tell them. The story of jesus and i think that's like today to reach people this like in fashion as become one of the most biggest because i see that teaches people weighing teachers that putting jesus people on on on them and then jesus slobs in love. T shirts hoodies coming up. I think this is very much needed as well. You know. A clothing brands like smokers in bandaged. Come up at spread spread. The message of the gospel spread more about jesus and i think that is very much needed in the season. Yes one hundred percent I actually have this ring on on my finger right now that i absolutely adore and i can't believe i can't find a more brands out there that southeast kind of thing it says my faith is bigger than my fear and that is my constant reminder to move forward so i want i want my clothing line to just help people remind remind them that god is with you every step of the way to go you know go pursue your passion you can do because god is there bring glory to god so for sure one hundred percent that is my goal buyers. Oh that's awesome and towards towards the last question sunday I think this is something very special. I mean since Men's month that you're asking something. And i wanna ask about. Women are entrepeneurship and according to your perspective. How do you think women. Entrepreneurship has evolved over the years this is. This is a good question to We've definitely evolved mindsets as more and more women have been choosing the path of entrepreneurship. You have noticed that Nowadays we often find women uplifting other women you know to be the successful person they can be. And i think society because of that is welcoming that more and more where here like now giving each other business tips and life advice all in one session right. Sisterhood is stronger. Wisdom stronger face is stronger. I mean shoot you. You'll find girlfriends holding each other accountable to be the best. Ceo they could be. And i feel back then. I don't think women did that. Because they were often silent and they don't want to speak due to fear fear of failing fear of losing their family or maybe even fear of losing the title to be a quote unquote. good wife. you know just things like that that stereotypes that have held us back so much. Were breaking chains. And we're moving as sisters so yeah. I think that's how we've evolved. That's true you know people supporting each other. And i think that is really important at this time you know and I remember this. I think this is chris dollar tone who said When you find your people you find your destiny. And i think that's very important. You know finding the right people. And i and i i you are the sum total of the five most people you hang out with and you know and these makes a lot of sense you know because when you find people who are similar to you and they push you and according to me. I tell people to kind of people in this was the first one is the pushers in segments the pullers so the pushers actually pushed you towards your goal. They inspire you. They give me the motivation. They say. why don't you go ahead and try it. You know it might work. They give you the stand by the give you like the big strengthen you and there's a the pullers who actually pull you back all the time and then today i have a lot of relatives and my cousins actually started out who are business owners and of them most of them were women at i see that they are doing some a marketing agencies and doing different kinds of stuff that i'm like that that that is amazing and some people are actually pushing them. Go for it. You know that that is important. I mean you know menu surroundings people and the the the support you and you know and i believe that. And what do you dislike adding onto. What he's set. You know this is what is needed like. The men also need to come up and empower them. Because you know there. There's a lot of voices that needs to be heard that a lot of years that you know that still needs to come up and you know. I think that is much needed. And i don't know who said i think it was myles. Munroe has the richest place on earth is the graveyard. Because that's where all the on an worked ideas laid at because people when they don't find the purpose when they don't do what this needed they just the fear of what happens next They have they might have some of the best ideas in the woods but in the fear of trying lose them down it goes down with them to the grave you know. Nobody never knew them. I i think that's that's fine with a unit leave a legacy android. What you just said you know like you know being an entrepreneur. It's not just about being an entrepreneur into making a difference correct. Yeah and you know to add to that You know the enemy has used fear of failure and anxiety depression all his time to silence women and i think now finally breaking chains to to your point i. It's true so i. I think it's amazing though we're constantly seeing this and empowering each other's it's it's just it's just a great thing to actually visually get to see women breaking chains for each other so i think it's so great definitely it is and you know and as As we come to a close you know. What is it that you would like to tell. All men are men everybody out that who actually have an idea or something of a passion or even have a business in in the making. What is it that one word of advice that you would love to other. Oh man my biggest advice would be to move. That would be might big here. I will library on this because that was my biggest struggle actually putting the faith to step out move forward and trusting in god that he will take care of you right i was. I was stuck in a situation on depression. And i stayed there much longer because i was so scared of moving. And you know. I don't know if anyone else is experiencing that but if so just you just have to do a little bit every single day. It might not be as much of a big impact day by day but you will get there. So that's that's my biggest advice You know don't look for the perfect time. There will never be a perfect time to launch a business. Don't look for the perfect assets or the perfect social media content. Nothing will ever be perfect. You just have to keep going. Keep moving and you'll see that you'll be impacting women daily or just even just women just people in general right So that that would be my biggest advice and Seek help you cannot do this alone so god calls us to be you know body of christ you know. He calls us to be with each other and support one another. There's a reason for that. You cannot do this by yourself. So have that sisterhood. Have you know someone you know. Constantly checking it on you and saying like how are you doing this feed Just stabbing that and making sure that you're held accountable for what you're doing is super important. So that's that's my word of advice. That's that's amazing. You just hit on a lot of fines over there and you know now just like you said you not have faith and you know take leave or make make the jump that said you know. I just had to try it out some. It may or may not work. But that's like the secondary question is always going to be detri- You know You know i mean personally. I don't wanna be the guy who actually takes off his ideas to the grave. When i die you know people say you know okay. What ideas he have died at one. It'd be that. I know. I always wanted to be like i at least tried and i can die in peace. Okay i try. And i think that's the whole point of everything but anyways you know. I think that's that wraps up on a lot of staff you know guys so just like you know. It doesn't matter where you are at life. You just like you heard his story where she was in a time. This desperation in depressed all all alone. Like bad and still. She thought it was done. But god's broke through like a low light breaks through into a darkroom. god's brought her out of it air from the darkness to back into his light and and he changes her life forever You know the the fact that she has right now the faith and you know she said okay. I'm not gonna deliver life on a nine to five job. But i want to do something different for god and she took a step and that's what she did and she just did the jump and had the faith and i think that's what most of you need to do today and they're you know even if it's small as a passion are in even if it's like riding on even like writing down stuff you know just as just take that step that's going to be amazing that might change else's life might be a one man motivation that you do on instagram. That might change. Feels like you never know and you guys just take believe you know. That's what i will tell you. And that's what this whole session is ever has been telling you all around so guys again. thank you so much for being here for spreading some know intense knowledge into people you know what from your experiences that i think that's going to is going to change laugh people's lives and listen to this. Thank you so much for being here. This yes thank you for having feel so blessed once again and i hope this inspired someone to get moving so yeah shoot for the stars always got his there with you. Every step of the way on a guys die was hernandez that she was All the way from arizona speaking about her brand at on one you so much fun listening to us you know i. We hope that the session really blessed you and you know you the links to Isabelle's instagram enter And i don't wonder all the in the episode description so do go ahead and check the magma father and if you wanna ask aggressive behavior heterosexual super friendly version and you know. Thank you so much for listening once again and stay tuned for our next episode on And see you guys then bye-bye thank you for listening to bellwethers podcast. If you love this episode do not forget to share and subscribe also. We would really appreciate if you could leave a review. Thanks again for listening and stay tuned for our next episode.

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#49: Our Take MayPart 1

Health Care Rounds

17:07 min | 2 years ago

#49: Our Take MayPart 1

"The. Welcome to healthcare rounds. The podcast, serving you the ins and outs of health policy and business topics as well as our take on the rapidly evolving healthcare, delivery ecosystem, I'm your host, John Murcia CEO of Darwin research group, and faculty associate at the WD Carey school of business and the college of health solutions at Arizona State University. Our first story is about HR's and physician burnout in a new med scape poll forty four percent of physician said electric health record systems have decreased the quality of patient care and their practice. While forty percent said, EHR's have improved, it among nurses in advanced practice, registered, nurses, however, forty-two percent, said quality of care under their HR system has improved versus thirty five percent who said care quality has declined physicians who said he HR's improve the quality of care cited the following, as the top reasons for improvement, the ability to locate in review, patient, information, more easily about fifty nine percent. The ability to electrically prescribe forty-nine percent and portability access to patient records by all members of the care team. Forty four percent as for the main reasons, given for reduce quality of care physicians and nurses pointed to. More paperwork in charting entering data during the patient. Encounter lack of interoperability with other systems and system failures problems. All of these were reasons given similar weight, according to mitigate one family medicine physician, who has pulled commented that HR's detract from the patient narrative noting that they reduce quote fascinating human stories to utterly boring. Repetitious templates. The polling footed two hundred seven physicians and sixty six nurses, or advanced practice, registered nurses. Here's our take the Mets game poll runs counter to a Harris Stanford medicine survey of more than five hundred primary care physicians in twenty teen in which sixty three percent of PCP's, so they thought Ivars had generally lead to improve care and sixty six percent were at least somewhat satisfied with their current HR systems, but beyond the top line results, the Harris Stanford study showed that HR's are taking a toll on physicians and are affecting patient care, for instance, seventy four percent said, EHR's increase the number of hours worked per day, seventy one percent said, EHR's, greatly contribute to, I burn up. Seventy one percent said, HR is greatly contribute to physician burnout sixty nine percent said using an e HR takes valuable time away from patients and forty nine percents at each ours. Detract from their clinical effect. Business. If we were epic, those numbers would make us cringe. Physician burnout is a serious problem, according to the twenty nineteen minutes gate, national physician burnout depression and suicide report about half of the fifteen thousand physicians survey were in the middle range, that is scoring a four or five on a seven point scale between burn out not interfering with their life and burning so severe that they were thinking of leaving medicine. General surgeon wrote that Meyer relationships have withered. My family is frustrated, we rarely make plans to do anything socially as they're likely to be cancelled. Incidentally, general surgeons topped all specialties for being over worked with seventy seven percent surge inciting long work hours as contributing to burn up overall, the physicians who are pulled said factors that contributed to burn out included too many bureaucratic tasks, or fifty nine percent spending, too many hours at work thirty four percent, and he HR's increasing computerization of the practice thirty two percent. The added burden that HR's place on physician practices is quantifiable twenty sixteen American Medical Association in Dartmouth Hitchcock medical center, study down the for every hour of face to face time with patients physicians spent nearly two additional hours on HR related in clerical tasks each. Ours are now an essential part of the workflow in most physician offices. So the question is, what can we do to improve HR's in order to reduce frustration and physician burnout? In February met star house National Center for human factors in healthcare, and the AMA launched a new campaign that will push for changes to address the known risks to patient safety and clinician burnout stemming from poor HR usability, the campaigns website provides videos from the clinicians point of view demonstrating the risks and challenges caused by poor EHR, usability UPN. See a longtime trailblazer. EHR HR implementation in advance predictive. Analytics is partnering with Microsoft in joint venture called healthcare. Next part of the collaboration project. Power MD involves developing an artificial intelligence scribe, the application analyzes doctor's conversation with a patient and then make suggestions in the patient's HR as tech journalist Claire, McGrane wrote in geekwire, quote, ideally, doctor, using the scribe could devote their full attention to a patient during exam. Then he or she could turn to the electric, health record and accept suggestions. Ascribe makes like diagnosis or not for future treatment. You PM see, Microsoft, maybe onto something having an Alexa, like system to record translate conversations, provided the privacy is protected could save hours of physician in nurse time while improving the clinician patient interaction and quite possibly reduce physician burn up. In our second story, drugmakers will be required to disclose prescription drug pricing in direct to consumer TV advertisements, the department of health and human services announced last week. Specifically the final rule affects products covered by Medicare or Medicaid and products whose wholesale acquisition costs or wack is greater than thirty five dollars per month. HHS secretary Alex as our said, quote patients who are struggling with high drug costs are in that position because of the high list prices that drug companies charge making those prices more transparent is a significant step in President Trump's efforts to reform, our prescription drug markets and put patients in charge of their own healthcare elsewhere, as our said of the pharmaceutical industry, quote, if you're shamed of your drug prices, change drug prices, the CMS rule, which goes into effect, July ninth stipulates, that drug pricing information be displayed in text. That is large enough to. Read. It also allows for the publication of competitor product pricing. Here's our take this rule may be the single most ill-advised pointless and irresponsible healthcare policy idea coming out of Washington, since the Trump administration took over, and that's saying, a lot on the surface forcing manufacturers to listen. Drug prices is a step toward transparency as, as our says, consumers have a right to know how much the drugs costs except the drugs list price, isn't, how much drug really costs once you're on shirt. Most Americans about ninety one percent have health insurance provided other by their employer through an ACA exchange or through a government programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, or try care, assuming that your coverage includes a prescription drug benefit plan, you pay the copay, which for any given drug will vary from plan to plan. No one pays wack not even the pharmacy benefit managers, whose net price after discounts and rebates is nowhere near wack. Pharma the association for the pharmaceutical industry complained that showing pricing information might discourage people from seeking treatment, which to as our second point should have the industry asking tough questions. Our beef is that HHS move feels more like theater than some public policy, it's unlikely to have any effect on pricing. With one exception having the ability to publish competitor prices might force whack lower. So let's play out that scenario product has list price of a hundred dollars a month and product B has list price of ninety five dollars per month. Presumably, the maker of product be would want to highlight this fact and it's TV at then the ad runs at nauseam like the ads for psoriasis drugs. And the one with the nicotine adult Turkey until the company that makes product a lowers its price to ninety dollars a month. Now it's on the pricing war has begun. The problem is pointed out, nobody pays one hundred dollars per month when Bob fills is scripted the local CVS. He pays the twenty dollar co-pay. And whether product, a our product B is in the bag depends entirely on Bob's insurance and the tiered formula associated with his prescription drug plan. So the rule is misleading if the goal is to empower consumers, and quote, put patients in charge of their healthcare listing, wack prices in drug ads will fail to accomplish that goal. Nevertheless, the rule will be applauded by Democrats, and Republicans alike, has the renowned cancer researcher, Dr David Hong pointed out in a recent episode of healthcare rounds. Quote, despite the fact that as a country divided about almost every major issue. The only thing that we're actually United about as drug pricing. That may be true, but HHS has publicity stunt NAS creating as public policy needs to be called out for what it is a bunch of. BS. Here's what else you need to know. Don't secures. Mercy health signed a letter of intent to acquire Dublin-based bonds, occurs, health system, completion of the merger is expected in late summer pending further due diligence and receiving necessary approvals John starter junior CEO of Bunce occurs. Mercy health said quote by sharing best practices and expertise. We will work together to navigate the many complexities of healthcare, both locally and internationally and better understand different care delivery models. This will position as well to deliver exceptional care to our patients both today in the future. Bones occurs. Health system is the largest private healthcare system in Ireland treating more than two hundred eighty thousand patients annually in five acute care, hospitals. 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The Black Lives Matter Protests And The Sports Community

Only A Game

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The Black Lives Matter Protests And The Sports Community

"This is only a game. I'm Karen Given over the past two weeks. Some of the loudest voices speaking up against racism and police brutality have come from the sports world from former NBA player Stephen Jackson. Who grew up with George Floyd and called him my twin. You can't tell me when that man had his knee on my brother's name taking his life way what his hand in his pocket the best log on his face. To two thousand seventeen NBA rookie of the year Malcolm Brogdon. March next Dr King in the sixties. And he was amazing he will be. All, here. We got to keep pushing forward to sixteen year old tennis star. Cocoa Goff. Speaking out in Florida was eight years. Martin's killed. So why am I here at Sixteen, still demanding change? And it breaks my heart. 'cause I'm finding for the future for my brothers I'm fighting for the future for my kids on finding for the future for my future grandchildren. To the other side of the globe where UFC fighter Israel Sonya joined a protest in. New, Zealand For, racist, being here because we. You. Races get killed we. To talk about all of this, I'm joined by someone. We're fortunate to consider an only a game. Regular Professor Kenneth Shropshire C., E. O. of the global. Sport Institute at Arizona State. University can welcome back. I'd like to start with a bit of historical contact over the past week. A lot of people have been reminded of the protests that swept the country in the late sixties, and the La Riots of Nineteen ninety-two. What in broad terms was the response from the sports community in those moments? Interesting so in the sixties there was a great responsiveness. Great involvement had celebrities of the day Jim Brown. We're deeply engaged, but as governor of the state of Georgia did you go by the laws of God about the laws of the state? I go by the laws of God in by the loss of state as you see fit, what is And even some moments, in fact when some. Great, white, every two involved. In the NFL and the Great Jack, Kemp. It is interesting when you when you forge ahead to the nineties and the La Uprising following Rodney King and L. Simpson and sort of those moment there was silence by the athlete. There were attempts in most notably creek hodges with the Chicago Bulls was an outspoken person on this, but for the most part there was a deep entrenchment of of the Michael Jordan, aura of the best way to get paid in this business is to be a political race Lewis and is colorless as you can be. So how did we get from that era that you're describing of political apathy to what's happening now? So really was the trayvon Martin moment. A great moment by Lebron James Leading is then Miami he team in a way that we had not seen Lebron James tweeted a photo of himself and his teammates, wearing team logo, toadies, the hoodies and using that tool that did exist in the sixties in the ninety nineties social media. We saw great action by some players. Then Saint Louis Rams five rams players entered the field, displaying the hands up. Don't shoot pose. It was an apparent show of solidarity with Ferguson protesters, and certainly a reduction by the WNBA links players, the warmup jerseys named to black men shot last week by police names of Alton sterling and for Landau Casteel were on the back along with the Dallas. Police Department Shield and black lives matter so we have begun to see this greater movement in this greeter moment, but certainly nothing like we're seeing today. Great, so that was going to be my next question. Because of course, this has grown over the past few years, but this present moment does feel different. What stood out to you about the response from the sports community this time around? A combination of things I think certainly were able to hear it more clearly because the Games are not being played, we don't have the distraction. Of the Games, themselves also think that graphically. Seeing what we saw, this time made us all open. Her eyes and ears a level that we have reached before. The black glove protests in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty eight, was two men standing on a victory Stan, raising raising their fist, and there wasn't an imagery of actual death accompanied the Trayvon Martin moment we heard about it. We heard some sound, but we didn't see it may. Eric Garner was the closest situation to this, but somehow it wasn't as brazen blatant as this one. Lavelle moten head men's basketball coach for North Carolina Central Win on ESPN last weekend and said something I have not heard a coach say about his colleagues. He pointed out that college football and basketball coaches at the highest levels make generational wealth off of the athletic abilities of young men who looked like George, Floyd, but whenever? People the Complexion of George Floyd is killed assassinated martyred in the street in broad daylight. They're silent. And I have a problem with that. Does he have a point? A great point and so often we have connected making money off the backs of predominantly African. American you've ethically level so often we've made that point in terms of pay for play in name, image and likeness, so what he does is takes it even further and says look you. Value from these young men. You need to take some steps to protect them. There's a similar messaging that I hope to hear from the Pro Sports Leagues. Especially the National Football League NFL is the one league that is still largely dependent on African American talent and the NBA's right behind, but this this is your labor well speaking of the NFL NFL teams have been putting out statements in support of the protests yet. These are the same teams that have blackballed Colin Kaepernick for protesting police brutality by kneeling during the national anthem. The hypocrisy has certainly not been lost on people. What's been your reaction to this? So I, do applaud the fact that statement was issue that didn't happen. I'll tell you though and not just the NFL. So many of those statements do not specifically mention police brutality police misconduct. Here's a Roger Goodell's. The NFL family is greatly saddened by the tragic events across our country to me. They are missing the mark in. They are doing the the wonderful pollyanna thing of. Of Let's all sing, combined together, there remains much more to do as a country and as a league. No, this is a police brutality moment deal with that, and by the way that something that can be addressed as opposed to this more difficult issue of bringing people together in America. Let's stop killing people in America. Let's take that step and then move forward from there. What have you seen coming out of the? NFL, that is good. Number conversations with people at teams that are executives in the leg of saying what can I do beyond my team statement, the intertwining of these sports leagues with the police, following nine eleven, and you the Great. How're Brian has done some wonderful work on that? That's really coming to bear this moment to. You might want to separate yourself a little bit from that. You may want to take some affirmative. Affirmative steps to say well. Here's what's wrong with my partner that I celebrate and have law enforcement day, and all these kinds of things there are wonderful gop, some of my best friends ops, but there are some problems as well as far as the sports world involvement in protest and social change. What are you going to be paying attention to going forward? The actual programs are initiated actual solicitor taken. As much heat as the NFL gut for funding the player of coalition, ninety million dollars, or whatever it is falling the Colin Kaepernick protests, and then all the follow up what we have seen their. Those men have actually. Moved legislation forward. They've actually gone to state legislatures and gone with the proper people appropriate education, and said here the laws that we need. They are actually working on giving people that are wrongfully incarcerated out of the system, and you know in the police ride alongs and getting another police force, and all that sort of thing in a way that athletes can much better than the newer on. Finally just a big picture question. What do you think this moment tells us about the place that sports and athletes occupy in American society right now? I think because of the huge vacuum that exists in leadership in the White House. And no matter what you think of Donald Trump. He, certainly not united the country, so in the absence of that it is a tremendous opportunity for these people, athletes, sports, figures, leagues the do have the attention and do the respect of people. To hopefully say some of the right things and do some of the right things is. People are looking around for some wisdom. Professor Kenneth Shropshire is the CEO of the Global Sport. Institute at Arizona State University Ken. Thank you so much for joining us? This let's get through this. To my white friends. You all know me as a sports guy. This is Reagan Griffin Junior. He's studying journalism. At the University of Southern California this essay, which he originally wrote for the undefeated is called a letter to my white friends. When you have questions about who to start your fantasy lineup, or what trade rumors are floating around the NBA or good in the upcoming draft class. You come to me for answers. And I happily obliged. Albeit a front with it right now. The Philadelphia. Eagles are undoubtedly without a shred of doubt in my mind were the losers. The losers of the twenty twenty NFL draft. You figure that because I live and breathe the NFL and the NBA. You're better served deferring to my judgment. Value my opinion. You. Accept what I tell you and you act on it. But sports is not the only subject on what you consider my expertise. You see I have as vest. It was given to me at birth passed down from generation to generation. It constantly weighs me down. It puts a perpetual target on my back. I cannot take it off even if I wanted to. I've grown stronger because of it. But I will we never have the opportunity. To display the true limits of that strength. Because the vest will always be part of me. On a spite of its many drawbacks. Of Come to love this fast. It is what defines me. But is deeply attached to the core of my concept of identity. This vest. Is What it means to be. Black in America do. You. Think I spent a lot of time studying sports. I spend every waking moment of my existence study what it is to be black in this country. I'm forced to as every African American. That Melanin and going anywhere. I know what it is to be profiled stigmatized slurred targeted. Hunt! Let it be known. It doesn't take too much time in the same room with me to realize that I'm not the silent Knight. In person on social media through my content, I am vocal about these issues. As a person who is continually living the black experience? I try to offer answers. What is frustrating to me however when it comes to this area of my expertise? My opinions tend to fall on deaf ears. Rarely is there action on my behalf on behalf of every soul facing these issues why? I do not know. Maybe it's peer pressure? Maybe it's because by admitting there is a problem you're meeting that by not taking action. You have been complicit in the problem. Maybe. You simply don't care enough. Whatever it is I'm through making excuses for you. We've been through too much. Laugh together wept together. Fought for each other became family. For me to accept that you turn your back on me. When I need you most. Oh, I don't stand alone in my pain. Dr About Forty, four million of US experts in this country. And most of us are frustrated beyond words. I don't condone these riots happening across the country. But all of you Who Sit in silence have created this monster. We all have our white friends. Who sidestepped these issues in its enraging? That those who have the audacity to call? US friends refuse to stand with us. In the words of Martin Luther King Junior. In the end we will remember not the words of our enemies. But the silence of our France. This isn't about touchdowns baskets home runs goals. As much as I love sports. They're always be bigger issues than what's on the. This is quite literally about wife in death. I'm not asking you to understand. You can frankly never understand without having lived your life with that vest. What I'm asking for. Demanding really. Is your trust in our expertise. Take the same faith you have in means when it comes to sports in apply to my in black. America's just when it comes to the issues facing our community. In Act on it. vocalise your support on social media. Talk with your families. Particularly your younger siblings about racism. Champion black leaders and organizations in your community. Demand Justice for the victims of police brutality. Advocate on our behalf in the spaces where we are not and cannot be present. Make it known that you will not tolerate injustice even when it doesn't directly affect you. GonNa take. Me? Buying on the pavement. Murdered. You to care. Reagan Griffin Junior is a rising sophomore at USC. A longer version of this piece was first published by the undefeated go to the undefeated dot com for this and other great pieces, exploring the intersections of sports, race and culture. You're listening to only a game from NPR. Cell phone footage shows police killing unarmed black people. Protesters take to the streets, rinse and repeat for a decade. Why? Ruin moves on. A blunt reminder that we've been here before. On code switch from NPR. I'm Karen given among the many athletes. Speaking out this week is former NFL pro Bowler Ann quon bolden. For bolden, speaking out is nothing new in two thousand seventeen along with saints defensive, Back Malcolm Jenkins. bolden founded the players coalition which works with state and local governments to end systematic oppression, and that same year after a fourteen year career, bolden retired from the NFL to focus on his activism full-time, but Anquan Boldin younger brother Dj is just starting to speak out and he started. Started with the football players coaches at Pokey High School in Florida due to the COVID, nineteen pandemic DJ couldn't speak to his players in person, so he sent them a note on twitter with ties. Be Very sensitive operated have to say something is not a conversation. I want to have with my four year. Osan, let alone you all. I have forty eight signs in county. Coach Dj bolden. Welcome to only a game. Thank you for having me. I want to start with the note. You sent out to your players earlier this week. What made you decide to reach out to them to be honest? Garin a lot of things that have been going through my mind, and it dawned on me that I had a responsibility as coach to say something. You know we tell parents Take care of your kid on my treat him as if he's one of my own. If that's the case, then you have to have these discussions if they feel half of what I feel. They have to be confused. They have to be going through a tore moral of emotions, and is my job as the adult as the mentor figure as the head coach vigor to address it. I feel the same way. You all are probably feeling right now emotionally. Hurt angry, frustrated and confused. I. Want to leave you guys with this. What you have witnessed over the last few days is morally wrong. Tell me about your players who are they? What kind of backgrounds to they come from? My team is comprised of. Ninety seven percent African American in the other small percentage Latino. So obviously, all the kids look like me if you will and they probably going to face the same profile in all the other stuff that goes on with the color of my skin, in non top of that is a rural area, means a little before two thousand people in the entire city, low socio economical class section, eight housing food stamps. We don't have a chain restaurant. We don't have a chain grocery store. There's no outlets for kids to be keys meaning no scale uranium a bowling alley, no movie theater. Europe Zan so. These, games already face a lot just from life itself so to add more fuel to the fire. If you will end, showed them racism in to put in their face that year. You are different. I think that's a slap in the face in kids. So you also grew up in this same small town where you now teach you us and world, history and coach football, you played on the Pokey High School football team, and then you went on to play at wake. Forest, university, and you've said football shields you. How so football man? It's a brotherhood. Obviously you see people of all nationalities, all colors of all socioeconomic backgrounds. The guy next to us guy you have to depend on is kind of one of those things where everybody has to trust everybody, so there's no room for you know the separation of race. Once you get outside of the ramble football. You have to face reality and. The. Reality is what we've been seeing over the last few days. In two thousand fifteen. Your family suffered quite a tragedy. Tell me about your cousin Corey Jones. Who was he and how did he die? Remote Gosh Corey. Gore isn't angel now. He's always been angel. Chorus was always that relative. That was supportive. He was a character. He likes to crack jokes. You know. He loves to laugh and he loved music on me. His life was pretty simple. You know. He stayed around a church. His his grandfather is the bishop of our ministry, and he played the drums for his grandfather. He used his GIF. In scale of playing drums to earn a living and that night, when when he was taken away from us, he was coming from Gig in Oh. He had performed. He broke down on the side of the road while he was waiting for rose assistants I mean audiotapes speaks list so I ninety five exit be. This is the audio of Corey's call to roadside assistance and just a warning here. This is disturbing. Is a building landmarks anything like that that I used in point here address. Unmarked police officer came on the scene, never addressed. We was, but escorted need help or good. Corey started to flee, and as he was sleeping was shot, multiple times killed. That was. Very, dark moment for a lot of us in our family, because it happens to a guy that did nothing wrong. I would rather than me. I haven't led a perfect y. you know I'm not saying he's perfect at all, but you know what means the is a guy that was a gene league. Good person in everybody that he's ever came. Encounter with will say the same thing. And in case, the police officer who killed him was convicted and sent to jail. Does that help at all? No. No I'm I'M GONNA? Tell you why doesn't help. Yes, this is some type of vindication is an anomaly if you will is, is one victory versus thousands of losses, and my family still agrees with the nation like yes, the officer is paying for his crimes, but he dolphins a has left a residue. If you will of guys that do the same thing that he's done. So every time you hear that this has happened again as it did recently with George Floyd what's that like for you? Like a knife just that's already in your bed, just going to inch deeper. It can happen to me. I it really can happen to me and I like to believe that I'm a great guy ill. I like to believe I'm a great coach like to believe I. Give Love Sacrifice I. Give my time. Yes, I have tattoos. Yes, I'm a big black guy, got a full beard I probably do look intimidating to some people, but it's a sad reality that. That could be me. For no reason. Operated God that it doesn't happen to another one family members yet alone ball children. Dan. In your nurture players. You didn't expressly mention your cousin. Am I right in assuming that's a story? They already now. Yes, you know everybody knows about the situation. I believe that's why. The message probably touched the hearts of my kids so well because they already know what we've been through. Football is a great sport, but if you don't learn anything else from the past few days learned this. There are big things in life than football. US All the resources football brings in educate yourself. Learn the law become cops, attorneys, governors, mayors, judges, or even a president. So. How did your players respond to your note? So. Feel of coach in very different high schools. This kid that I coached in Memphis Tennessee at Saint Benedict of Auburndale is a private Catholic school. He's a Jewish kid. Is One of my favorite kids, entire world and one day I told him so hey, man. I could see you into president one day. And he labs I called Bodo first of all. How many Jewish presidents do you know? I was like I, know. I know you know you you. You can actually be the first you know and he's like. Oh, you crazy! politics I'm not politics, and after I posted that message. He takes me at one o'clock in the morning. Stuff was going on right now. Really makes me consider. Will you tell me to run for office? This is such a gratifying moment because I preach a lot to my keys. You get to live to live. You get football. You get the real world life and use my brother Anquan a lot. He had a fourteen year career right very successful NFL career and he retired with thirty, five, thirty six. You Know Statistic, has it? You suppose retired sixty five so talk about thirty more years of. Of Life to try and figure out in Ancona, doing a great job integrating back into the real world, but I can guarantee you the first couple years of his retirement. He didn't know what he was doing. He probably still don't know. And I believe what he's doing with. Justice reform and NFL player coalition. It is pushing him in the direction of his path, but right now he's a news uses a normal American citizen that has to out life in now. You take this one key. That I coach at sixteen year old. Already knows what he wants to do in life. He's already the future. That's what our job is. As as coaches prepare the next generation of Jesus to be better than what we were. When you finally do get a chance to see your players in person again. How do you intend to keep this conversation going? I hope that they have more questions for me. Then I have answers is just going to force me to be more vulnerable to my keys, and I believe when you are vulnerable to keys, and you you you. You show them tell the truth. The Bun. Grows stronger. The trust grow stronger and hopefully with with data approach. I can make them a better. Human being not a better football club, just a better human beings. Once this is all said and done. I can say so much more and when the time permits I will, but I want you guys to know. Coz. Boden loves y'all and I'm always one phone call away! Protests this week have spread from Minneapolis to around the country and even the world. What do you hope comes out of this movement? I see this whole process as a grieving process. If you lose a loved one. No one can tell you how grieve right. Just were of motions of outcry and just. That, probably don't make sense to a lot of people, but it makes sense you. Everybody heals from the mourn is so important for them to educate themselves, and to take action, and I'm speaking of me I L I'l speaking to me, I already registered. To vote, I'm already educating myself on the the the mayor. The commissioner the District Attorney's. If the people of this country. Do not educate themselves. And? If they don't go out and vote, all of this would be for nothing. Period. Dj bolden coaches, football, and teaches history at Hokey High School in Florida. Dj, thank you so much for taking the time to speak with me. So much care. This is the moment. I usually take to remind you to subscribe to the only a game podcast, but this week I'm going to suggest you subscribe to NPR's. Who'd switch instead it tackles the subject of race head on. You can find it wherever you get your podcasts. When a baseball card collector told long retired, MLB, all star Garry Templeton about his forty nine day road trip to meet some players whose cards were his collection templeton was confused. I thought it was like a little cuckoo and I didn't know if he was real or not. That's coming up and remember. You can follow us on facebook and twitter at only a game NPR. With civil unrest, the panic and the economic crisis. You want to know what's happening right when you wake up and that's why there is up I the news. You need about ten minutes from NPR news. Listen every day. I'm Karen Gillan, and it's time for Charlie Pierce and the week's News Hi. Charlie lie, Karen. Dissatisfied with the NFL's official statement on the killing of George, Floyd which said merely that the NFL was quote greatly saddened by quote tragic events. A group of NFL players released a statement of their own. National, Football League wrong silence in our players from peacefully protesting. Black lives matter black lives matter I. What did you make the NFL's official statement? Oh God it was awful. It was hollow. It was disingenuous. It revived the whole Colin Kaepernick thing. Everybody in the NFL should have anticipated that. And it was transparently insincere. There's no reason to believe the NFL on this issue at all. As you say the events of the past few weeks have led many to say that now is the time to sign Colin Kaepernick to an NFL contract. Do you think any teams are going to be moved by that argument It'll be interesting to see if that happens. This has been the game along which is basically to blackball him until you can argue that he's been out of football too long. That's been the long game. These guys have been playing, but it's entirely possible. The pressure will become overwhelming. So what should sports leagues be doing and saying right now? Well I think they should put their money where their mouths in terms of community, development and Community policing I think. They should start paying back to society that has made them rich basically far more than they already have. After facing backlash for telling an interviewer that he would quote, never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States of America New Orleans Saints quarterback drew. BREES has apologized I'm sorry. And I will do better. And I will be part of the solution. I am your ally. I am generally drew brees Fan, and he's done a lot of good things on the other hand. Does a person really make a turnaround in less than twenty four hours? Where do you land on this? I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the reasons that you just explained. I think he's got to get it through his head. That the people who are not disrespecting the leg, they are in fact engaging in everything that flag stands for. They are making a statement during a ceremony in which they are saying that the country is not living up to its ideals. And that's the most American thing you can do, and if drew brees has gotten to this point in his life where he doesn't know that and he's willing to educate himself. That's fine by me. Charlie basketball. Hall of Famer Wes unseld died this week at the age of seventy, four unsold, played for the bullets in Baltimore and Washington from nineteen, Sixty, eight to nineteen, eighty one, and he went on to coach the team. How will you remember him? As a big hard working center, who took no nonsense, and as the greatest outlive passer in history basketball, and as a trailblazer in terms of civil rights, he was the first African American player to be off. The Scholarship Kentucky which he turned down and to play at Louisville. The NBA Board of Governors has approved a return to play plan that would include twenty two teams thirteen from the western conference and nine from the East training camps to open on July ninth play to begin on July thirty first, and all of this is meant to take place in Disneyworld I. Am pleased you this whole proposal completely embarrassed Major League, baseball because you've got a cooperative enterprise between Labor and management here getting the sport back. Whether or not it's a good idea we'll know. Two weeks in one, the incubation period and Well as you mentioned. Charlie hopes for two thousand twenty baseball season are dwindling the players association countered the League's Plan for an eighty two game, regular season and additional pay cuts with a plan for a one hundred fourteen game season, and no additional pay cuts now the League has rejected that plan and says there will be no counter. Is it all over for baseball in two thousand twenty. It doesn't sound good. Does it I mean there's a lot of room between those two proposals. Pay Cuts at no pay cuts. Games I'll hurt in fourteen games. It's hard for me to believe that they will make the entire season augur in. It would be an enormously stupid. move on everybody's part and finally Charlie sports has returned to England. Back is I'm not even sure I. can call this sport can't i. of course you can. This is only a game I'm call everything's sports. What do you think of the return of pigeon racing? Well, apparently, the Barnsley Federal Racing Pigeons is over the moon at the return of pigeon racing to the United Kingdom. Forty five, almost forty five hundred pigeons released to fly to ninety miles home. That's a heck of a race actually. My favorite detail coming out of the story from a pigeon racer who said that the restrictions were lifted sooner than he expected, and so some of his birds weren't ready to race right? Is there some sort of extensive training camp for pigeons? Unless you've seen pigeons? Lifting weights that occurs is sports. Journalist is not complete. Pitches pumping iron I'm telling you Greg Video. Shirley peers is the guest editor of the best American sports writing two thousand nineteen. Any joins US each week at this time on only game. Thanks Charlie. Thank you Karen. Our last story of the day might seem at first to be about at particularly obsessive baseball card collector who set out on a journey to meet some of the players. He admired as a kid, but one of the things that baseball card collector found on his journey. Makes this story relevant to the news of the week? Here's only games. Gary Wallich. In nineteen eighty six, when he was five years old Brad, Baluch started collecting baseball cards I would buy the wax packs for the local pharmacy with a stick of Gum. I had my favorite players who were not the superstars? They were the more underdog type guys. Brad grew up to be a college professor who collected bugs instead of baseball cards, but in twenty fourteen he turned his attention back to his childhood obsession. The guys that I grew up. Following I never really stopped thinking about them. I was always drawn to wanting to know the stories of those players. Where are they now? Brad took his boxed up cards out of storage and started formulating a plan to learn first hand about players, or at least some of them, so I thought a good way to get at this question of you know what happened to these guys that I grew up with would be to get a pack. And whatever guys read that pack? Though are be the guys that I would track down. I mean that kind of captures the thrill that we experience as kids opening baseball cards, which was you don't know who you're going to get and you know it's these series of surprises, so brad bought an unopened nineteen eighty-six tops pack on Ebay when it arrived, he removed the Wax Rapper and pop the decades-old stick of gum into his mouth. He says it tasted delightfully gross. The pack included one player Al Cowan's who died in two thousand two, but the remaining thirteen cards were of living players. A group Brad calls attent allies mix of greatness and mediocrity. Brad Baluch Chan began planning a forty nine day road trip for the summer of two thousand fifteen. He would drive his two thousand two Honda Accord from his home in Oakland down the west coast across the south into the northeast and back again, his goal was to have a meaningful conversation with each former player about their lives. Now Brad's first stop was with rance. mullenix gracious understated. Humble. Accommodating he also met with his childhood hero former Phillies Pitcher Don Carman and also with Randy Ready Steve Yeager Hymie Kokin, our Lema Zilly Ritchie. hefner guarded and Rick sutcliffe outgoing extroverted. What you see is what you get. The abstainers were Gary Pettus Vince Coleman and the famous and famously reclusive Dwight gooden and Carlton Fisk. I disappointed that fisk was not willing to cooperate. Brad managed to spend time with nine of the thirteen living players from his nineteen eighty-six wax pack, but on his forty nine day road trip Brad had one meeting. That feels particularly relevant today. On June, twenty, fourth, Two Thousand Fifteen Brat arrived in San Marcos California where Garry Templeton now lives a few months earlier. Brad had contacted Templeton and told them about his plan. I I thought it was like a little Cuckoo, and I didn't know if he was real, and that's Garry Templeton when the pyramid at a local restaurant and began to chat. Brad says he was nervous because he wanted to ask Templeton about a controversy from his days as a player for Saint, Louis other writers had asked him about it, and you seem to not volunteer anything. So I just came out and said I. WanNa Talk to you about. The White Hers August. It is water under the bridge, but you know is something that he wanted to know so. I just told them the truth on what exactly I remembered from the incident. Here's the story in one thousand, nine, hundred eighty one garry templeton was a two time all star. overspread! That will end up at. Triple. Templeton was being paid more than any player in cardinals history, but during the nineteen eighty-one season, he hadn't been playing well in late August, he went to team physicians and a cardinal. Doctors told me that I had. Torn cartilage in my knee. Sprain some legaments ankle. The cardinals were leading their division and battling with the dodgers for the best overall record in the National League when Gary and team doctors brought the extent of his injuries to the attention of cardinals manager Whitey Herzog. Why did he told? Me Look. We. Go need down the stretch I. Don't want you hurting yourself. So you know if you hit a routine ball and you know you out. Just take your time getting down the first base because I. Don't want you hurting yourself. On August twenty six. The cardinals hosted the San Francisco. Giants in the first inning. Gary struck out swinging on a curve ball in the dirt, the ball by the Catcher, but Templeton didn't run to first space. Space. The Cardinal had committed a baseball sin, but he says he was just doing one as manager had told them to do. Of course, the fans don't know that their perception is that he's just being lazy and he's loafing Gary Return to the Dugout I mean the Fan Star Boonmee and screaming and yelling at me and I'm like what the heck is going on. A group of particularly abusive fans had moved to the front row somewhere screaming the n word at him why he was right there, watching the whole damn thing because it was closer to white it into me. Throwing ice, and all kinds of stuff at me, and that's when I stuck my hand in flipped them off. Templeton wouldn't tell me exactly what else. They said he didn't want to tell me either. But according to reports, the hecklers continued from the stands in the third inning Gary had had enough. Now I was telling them bring out here on the feel, and whatever, and that's when I grabbed my crops. The Home Plate Umpire noticed. Bruce Roman threw me out. The Game Gary walked back to the cardinals dug-out amid a torrent of abuse when he arrived Whitey, Herzog grabbed him by the Jersey and violently pulled him off the field and down the steps. The story made national headlines and. The way that this is depicted in the press. The next day is that. Templeton got booed for being lazy, and then he just flips out, and you know starts flipping off the crowd. What is not included in there is a description of all the horrible racial things that were hurled at him by the fans. And what especially upset at Templeton was that way her dog other players, they also heard. What was being said I don't know why nobody's never said anything about it, but they was right there. The to bad boys hurt the whole thing later on. Yeah Gary. We heard it, but we can say they were saving their jobs when the story was reported in the papers, Gary says only one half of it came out, so you know they were just going by what why did Herzog Dolan and you know? Whatever party said I guess back then was Gospel. Gary was suspended for three weeks and fined five thousand dollars in order to return to the team. He was required to undergo evaluation, and then they put it in this psychiatric ward for a while trying to analyze lowest wrong with him and diagnosis in, and this is where templeton basically says I was in there playing. Ping Pong all day. There was nothing wrong, but. Essentially in order to rejoin the team a couple of weeks later, they had to have the company line which is that he was depressed or he was struggling with. Some kind of chemical imbalance. And he basically just told the line and said okay fine. If that's what I need to do to get back on the field, sure of depressed, Brad Baluchi in says Gary didn't want to go into the details of that stay. And I think largely that incident stained his legacy before the rest of his career. which is so unfortunate because again when you know the whole story and the bigger context. Terribly, unfair. That's how it went down Garry. Templeton was traded to the padres after the nineteen eighty-one season he played another ten seasons, and even made an all star team for the third time in his career. As for the incident on August twenty six nineteen eighty-one. He says he's not proud of it, and he doesn't like talking about it. I moved on i. mean because nothing good ever comes from hate known stuff that you can't change so I just move on in life. Following his playing days, Templeton coached and managed for two decades these days. He golfs and spends time with his grandkids near San, Diego. Five years have passed since Brad Baluch Sins forty-nine day road trip, and he's had time to reflect on what he learned about pro ball players to some extent I was still seeing them through the eight year old is. But the things that were most impressive about them now are. Their ability to be vulnerable into be open into share some of their struggles. collectibles are nice autographs or Nice, but you know it's not about the object. It's not about the baseball card. It's about now knowing the actual human beings that are depicted on those cards, but of course garry. Templeton already knew that. Major Leaguers, people. They're human being. I mean they got hearts to they hurt. That story came from only a Games Gary Wallich bradberry. Luchian wrote a book about his road trip. It's called the wax pack on the open. Road in search of baseball's afterlife. Only a game is produced by Jonathan Chang, Martin Kessler and Gary Wallich, our technical director is Marquee Neil. Our executive producer is me, I'm Karen Given only a game returns next week. Thanks for listening.

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